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MINUTES OF REGULAR MEETING
CITY COKNISSTOR OF tlTAMI, FLORIDA
AUGUST 16), .1.994
ITEM SUBJECT LEGISLATION PAGE
NO. NO.
1
DISCUS"330rl OF PROVIO-SED FUTURE 11135 UTIIVERSEr
MISS JIT'S, TF I TO BF ELD IN
USA, PAGEW17�5 B
MIAHI; REQUEST FOSS'1131,E FRANCHISE TO KISS FREE
CUBA T" MIT -LE; REQUEST CONSIDERATION OF
REQUIREMENTS OF PARTICIPANTS; ETC.
NZ-84-940.
1-46
M-44 '841
M'84*942
M-44'943
2
GRANT TWO MONTHS CONPENSATION TO AIDA BAREA,
ADMINISTRATIVE AIDE TO COHNISSIOPER JOE CAROLLO®
H'84'945
26-28
3
DISCUSSION' XTEF%. HOUSIT'Gr Ar-P
ISSUE.
DISCUSSION
28�37
--4
ACCEPT REC01--lHE HDATI OHS 1`3"ADE' BY THE C01-11-1117TEE FOR
AESPOE SIDLE BONDS REGAVIDIRG DISTRIBUTION OF THE
FORTUC011ING HOUSIKG A-KD REDEVELOPHENT BOND
ISSUE.
K-44'946
W-84-947
37-50
5
A
DrSCUSSIGN' ITEM: PPLIVATELY FINANCED HOUSIEG FOR
LOW ARD 1,10DERT-TE IFCOHE.
DISCUSSION
50-5-?-
6
AUTHORIZE ClTr llahl-'�AGERZ TO ARRANGE FOR 11OVING OF
PALM TEEFES IN BLYPEOUT PARK Ig ORDER TO PERMIT A
JOINT V`ENTUPIE BETWEEN THE ORAEaGE BOUL COHNITTEE
AND THE FR01-10YEES OF TUE RIAMI GRAND PRIX.
H'84-948
51-52
7
REFER PROPOSLL F011 CITY PAIRZI Cl PhTl Oil IN THE
HIAKI GEL KD PRIX TO TRE CITY KhRAGER FOR
RENEGOTILLTIONS LIED FUL`YRER LEPOrll.
M-84,949
52-'53
8
PORT ACC ES`13' E 4I t >Er LGIlL"EHEUT
R'84 950
53
9
ACCEPT 111 F I II LE: 11C C0101, ER DA-71 OHS NO. 1
THRODUCIR'll 4, FlAt THE FL01. OF TRAFFIC IN
THE DWPOL','T 141.i.-ZL P-11"EL.
M.84. 951
53-60
10
CONTILUED D I-". C U 1. C." L I cs 3 URIVERSE
PAGEALIT. (Al Lr'l:0llFlZ`- -5-0,0GO. i'llLY RANA-GER
IS FEEKITIIJ) TO TO SIGE"I'Ll) C011"TUACT
FOR T11 E
M'84;-952
60-'65
11
REQUE-Slt"- CITY -1-0 CUL'V"EY TO HEYLU THE
CITYI!s W Pl-ll-hl�lll'L UITll Vi'Y THEY 1-11hUDLE
L
I IN Du lliT "I, i Ll- E il---v` I" L u b", 0 b" Vo EL C G 0 ttl c L L L LG- C. A T I ON
OF CITY 011, L L TO utc- 0 I"01" ATE D
DAD.
M 84-953
65
12
AVG
DIRE cin- kli Nll�iE I 'ro L'i U U I 4� L--Ll-.-_' VI1J)h E
L" I L (: T I ':' V .l T L I.-.' f 1( 1--'- 1 1 L G G i , C 0 'Irk 'l i 10 k R S
OFFICE �-AILCL Lk";' I G L U 1'1L' 1_' U, 1 L ri WITH
CO h b 1 1 1 (111v-
M-84 954
65-70
13
G- u u -to
FOR
44'. i
B-84-955
$00s
oph
Aii�
4
FORMALIZING RESOLUTION: ALLOCATE $4011000*- TO
INTERNATIORAL HEALTH COUNCIL EVENT TO BE HELD IN
MIAMI SEPTEMBER 21 THROUGH 23RDr WITH
R-44-956 7142
APPROVE IF PRY"CIPLE A TlEQIIEST FOR USE OF
PEACOCK rART, PST TABE PATAXONAl. F0411RDATJON FOR
CHILDREN J-fl COPIPIEC7107 A FUPP RAISING
EVENT.
M-84 L-957 72-45
FOR"ALIZIXPG RESOTAITKOTI: ALLOCATE A50,OOO. FROM
C.D. BLOCS GnAMT FUND5 TO THE UNITED WAY OF DADE
COUNTY TO PROVIDE TO DELAF09TE 7tACOLCY9 INC.
WITH FIIMDSP
R_84959 75-76
REQUEST FAVORABLE COPSJPF-PIATION BY THE U.S.
DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT
CONCERHIMG TUE CITY'S REQUEST FOR FINANCIAL
ASSISTANCE TO C;ARISTIAN U05PJTAL P-PA03ECT.
R_84'959' 76
ESTABLl'.S,,lJ A C011' U11177EF TO PRIFG HICHAE-L JACKSON
CONCERTS TO THE OT?A[;,GE DOW1, IT'i rou'um-Ep, OF 19311
I
AND APPOIFTTFG PEPSONSP TO THIS COITINITTEE.
M-84-860 76-78
SERIES Or, ITEV'S AS READ FROM A HEIOFATlpUll B"Al
VICE IIATOR DET71",71RID PEREZ CO3FCFRT7?jf7G rl;UTTIPLE
SUBJECTS.
DISCUSSION 78-79
ADDITIONAL DISCUSSIOR. HICHAEL JACKSON CONCERTS. DISCUSSION so
MINUTES OF SPECIAL MEETING OF THE
CITY COMMISSION OF MIAMT, FLORIDA
A q r* r- n
On the 16th day of AuF ust, 198)), the City Commission of
Miami, Florida, met at its regtilnr mectinp, Place In the City
Hall, 3500 Par American Drive, Miami, Florida in special
session to consider business of pul0jic jn�port�
The meeting was callc*d to order nt 4:15 O'Clook P.M. by
Mayor Ifiaurice A. Ferre with 'Ghc following, members of the
Commission found to be present;
Commis-sioncr Joe Carollo
Commissioner miller a1. lmwicins
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Demetrio Pcrez, Jr.
Mayor Houricc A. Ferre
ALSO PRESENT:
Howard, V. Gairy. City Manager
Lucia A. City Attorney
R,.-, 1. 1) 1 ) C; C J, t y C I c r k
Matty Itiruil, City, Clerk
Ar. invocation wat,,: v (' rcd by Hayor Ferre who then led
those present in a plc6r(". of to the flag.
DISCUSSIOU OF PROPOSED FUTURE HISS UE qE1','ZEt EIISS USA,
MISS TEEIZ U."th P-rIGE'Al-173 TO BE FIELD 111 t-11-1111I ; REQUEST
POSSIBLE FRkNCHISE TO HISS FREE CUBA IC, EXILE; REQUEST
TIGH OF REQUIREREFTS OF PARTICIPLUTS; ETC.
CONSIDERAL
— — --------------------------------------------- — --------- —
Mayor Ferre: I promised 111r. Ted Arison, -,,-,,ho his postponed a
trip to be here, as I understood it, yesterday. He maybe
was riot,E,Oirg to be 1jere, and I'm glad to see him here. I'm
going to take that out of order and Mr. Arisen and his
comm'ttei:i to make hit, report to us. Ls you iaa-y recall, we
V'r. Te d A r _.yen. the
appoirtc a comm -ttcc� ch.-ired U, y
Ct e an
Chairrn,n of �rniva). Cruise Ljy! :s,, t,jo J:� very busy d a
very iinj-)ortlint fnt-nn Ir. Our' C10mwUy!itV. I u vcry gets
irvolved ir tfie.<e type-,- of thjnf;:�, but'. 1 f>av hivi he
and hi:, Lt the Hi�,,, Univtzr� , d r t firal, and I
figurtd fie looked, like --uoh
1) 1.-) y trlz�.nt thzit perh,aps he
shared the v i oy, that !1
1jt%,C116U Ire d, G000 thing
for ��,-Iflcd hil,:i to ohair thit Lhe was
very r-etuetL.nt. to do bObUt cLI-cd baicl, he, C
was
a ppo n t t.
member b hi:r- V, 'i r Eor-,txt 1'rtr r, H*r
the
out golrl,� of the llu-t, colr.%.ttQ�t, uylc, 1-0��ted this
year,-- c V t: n 1, of
the L COLWil Ut--(4, Y. 11 *1 t h , y I i 5
also or, the C
that are presen't here tudiiy. Mr, to-i:en, our �ratitude. for
your time and effort. The Chair Irecognizt-5 you, sir .
11
1 August 16, 1984
k;
Mr. Ted ,Arison: Mr. Mayor, at your request, we had several
meetings with the committee. On the approval of
the
Committ€ae, I started rep.,ot i.atirp with rlis � Llriver se,
Zre,
The first ldrep was to t.rjr ind bri.np tho*rin dowr- her€ a.nd maybe
make Hia.;:,i. trite t,ertra;, r E: hone of, fin IIn1.v^rne. Thny
are
still (I cio t:ltnt. They r-tant: o t.r ° ii;x out'. for
a
COUPIn of y Pr;1_ Aft er f-Aint,, t,ttAre In n good chprc-
tttat
Miss Ur'-ivf° roc- -013 mad-r! 'Lh(l .r onv— hrr(^- At-, Irna;t % t-soiiId
like to ^sal, th-p t:hcre i.^ a eha-,ce for that: t.0 t)ppc•r
We
worked troy hard on that V-n thi.Pk i.S ( xtrene,l N'
FT, Q0d
agreemcrt;, she package will be for four pnpr(-art:r i.r.
two
years. A7, you know, they are runri.nf;, bn i5.1d(s
Miss
Ur.iverso, thcy are running w1jat they call 13i ^s Tc('--n USA
and
Miss USA pageants. All, the pagearts have n very, very
food
rating on tel,evi_sion. As a natter of feet, thr I;Ist
Miss
USA, Hiss. Universe Pageant had a rati_rg so high that. about
35,000,000 houschol.ds watched the shout. That: is besides
the
hundredri of trtil.l.,i.ons of poopl.c ghat: watchcd ?round
the
world.
Mayor Fcrrc: Excuse me fir. Aris, cn, so t-ac don_'t get
cor_fuscdg 35,000,000 hou^csholds are more people because
there ar•c I wo or thrcc people matching, t;c zevi,.,ion,
Mr. Ari, ;Or. Yc. , 70,000,000 t i,s A Tt can also
has a vcr y door r R4 t 1 (; ; it)o at, 19 , 000,000 to 20 000 , 000 are
watt ti rig, t ijr : f 7r,r, t cY F ; }?c"c t:
:,ar t., �r s r:,;r
xtj x 1: ter r :*014,
}2 : ,•
i, _)r c_�_ 7 '�,}} ��.rt=f
^tMt=@.l��gg�_�_ fEi(._tt
Can 00-� ,\ > F�
}:t �.r Em +tt
-LTi ��`
kt•'\.-
.� �0Or
show: of 1�
addi. ti Cat: t1.1 i ..-f��.t. r.. ,•s�. i'' ..
.t. ..
.. .. r;,..
c
thought. r. ,t:'�
part i o i
�1r,�Q,01y(1
and ti`,} I
i : wvi
In ve
thir: �..ct .',;, its � C,;,},r' '�)it?l.7 I (,
r,r�, ,d` r3 , r t
. i j" E �. 5 t- } �
��:
i F � (!7 J
a ! ;t, is t i a
year i vc
I <<t`: tt uf>1)or1,i.r,p
i.ti ! c I;Jrid
vith
250,000 " c,F co`(. (r <";r"_t:, (,.",'C;t"`.'
yc,-r, plu,"`
t:.hcy E'cre
gett:.irg,
also
Mayor Terre: Exc uw e Lie again, Lakeland the State got
$250,000 for, F § DLLs: Toer?
Mr. Arisen: Hiss VISA, and I think we are at least as
important as Lakeland, so we should get $250,000 per
pageant. It,-- important that we get a very quid. decision.
The people are here now. Vie are drat tir:g the agreements and
we would have to come up with money fairly senor,, so I wanted
to ask that this batter be considered row and the $250,000 a
year for the: next three years will be approved.
Mayor Fer•rTe: t r. Manager, has the Administration had an
opportunity to study the recommendation of the committee?
Mr. Gary: No.
Mayor Fer t-e : You have not, so you don't have any advice,
any po5itio,r �t thi5 point?
Mr. Gar v.
Tnec citci icvr, i5 thLt
we thir k that
those everts
are goon
to hLyv ire the City of
Miami, Kr, Ki
yor, ar.d that
we should
hz<-v(. thu:o e evtntt� . The
d(tcf -. or
to ► he ther or
rat tlrtve
Lr,:, e t—,
r--i r tu, ter:
Ludit being
perfor,L,tt-d
ul' tht curr'er`t evt,.r;t, 1
thir:l, r�-y UQ
l,r-tt-r,-tune 2N
termb of o„r
.
w
Mayor I=trr°e: ;r t. yo,U t11tr-eror"t r e tit t el (I i
Evidently y Hi f-. GI a-5tr h&-- flown cuwn tC, utk- 11' fit car;
conclude at least a portion of this, 'IT'he i5 that
all these things become time elements. The recotiamendation,
sl 2 August 16, 1984
as I understand It, is that the City come up with $250,000
this year and $250,000 next year. you understand, of
course. that; wr, Cnnrot giiqrRntep the SLate' s $500,000, nor
can we Ilf-trol.,; $250.000 or Mlsrfl. BeACIV.-I t150,000,
art :zf�n, T coric- iip with
As I n (3 d 1 1- -1 97 1� $iti5o,0001 o q )—
0
1300250 fror,
1-11pt, 7:7 'n millJor an
150 from tli.m n J. see
Mr. Pliummm- Thcy -Oso (11cr—IT-1 (I J, -i F,, 0�41' 1 o o . o n o , cl i (-� f 1. r s t
4 1. (,) r, - .,,) �100.n 0
ticket snIcn. T I I PI A. P, -T) a (41 d 1'. . , 0
250, 500 Pnd 150
Mayor F(,,rr(-: Op,� t 111, n P, at n '; I m c 11 C 250,
adds up "o �1.150,000. �o I 11PVr two que:71JOrs. one is you
said ;^_12.000,000, but from wi�at can urd(,rst,,T1d out of this,
this would br -11 . el-,?)00,000. 'k-JOP number o1re would be
why . the cxt,rn �.300,000? Qucsi.-icin Pvmber two v-11-at will
the private sector do-, T rcrid in the paper that you have
generously agreed to dorate �1:j0,000 and Monty Treninc-r has
agreed to don, -'EC �',50,000. Will the private sector, besides
the two of you donntc v.-ny moncy? How much will that be?
What vill. "Ghnit-, rOPCIY be for?
Mr. Arison; Tt's true that we are committed for $50,000 per
year. T 1, is ,,inn -000. Monty Trainer has committed for the
same r�mourl- i-7c thr- private sector to corer, tip with
about a
0 , 0 0 o T, ca r In othcr 1,-*ord- nnother
$150,000 16 VI)Ovc 1'7.11�A(, 1, t C d M 0 r t y.l IT
- I r , .:-� o r a
Traincr r (1 C.1 i- -1. g, I, ( Pv,t- out 1-3
guar anik.(.0 (If .100,0f.)0 to i-nduoc then, to
sign t11 C-Orlvz�(.,I- 'I"I C, 1) r
Mayor F(,-,rrc* I t1ell Y0,11, 1. linc,14 the ovui:ac business was
good, but I didn't krow the restaurant busiress was that
good.
Mr. hrl-on: it,-. exocllent. I've cite n there rind it's
quite busy. The reanon for it J.s ue f0el it is
extrerniely important to r 14" 1 Bccaur�(-, vo don't
k, -�o I-,i 11 1A -
have tir)c, wo, fourd thFt J:; the orly v,7y to do it. The
reason, i-,,liv c� w wun'k--, 0 un is of I L
the c,a.sh fro, t
J. U- 'k 171 d i f fe r c nt F� o v c r i i rz--, -.utori ies,
there will be all sorts of in -kind --crvices that will have
to be provided. it's, going to be hotel rooms, food,
generators, television hook-up::�, all sorts of odd a and ends
that will probably add up to maybe �1,400,000 altogether.
So, this is the reason why we wanted the additional money.
Let me ask you the key question. The key question is do you
think that this cotarnunity is well served by sperding
$1,400,000 of private and p,-iblic monies to get 14iss Universe
and Miss USA?
Mr. AriEon- Absolutely, I vouldn't have gone into it unless
'y -011
I felt Lhut way. I f*- Ql V (7 f� y , V tw�F ' F�
4L! , 1 �F L.bout it
Mr.
P I utia.ii e r t
Veil, I d-On't knowl if
1 va.11nt to �,,A, the of
him,
bul., ItIn
juA quc,�Lion:: that I
hope there" urc a
for.
I would
like to knou Retro
[)Zid thlcir for
the
1.22,at uver.,t? I'll -A N-ioney litz-- bey
r c c u i v (* d ? 'Fhe City has
that
u�-oncy in
tILU bar-4,? I r!()te or
your lettttr Lr:d their
letter
;,�n b6ditiol"al
�100,000 fy-OLD tiel'tt tl-iat they
get
the fiat,
'.100,C)OC-1. ":'hat do the
tjcl cat t�ale.-i amount to
this
Ye
T, I
Mr. yui-- 1,01- one how it Lo-ourttvd to Z;: 14i4tle
over $ too, 000. eom � yuzi- v-,v will have
first cj? s t c} 1:.� E::t. 3 u t wi I I v k�t it, 's Yn each
pagean't 421"u- L2, e W 111 11LVe Litae to and
material to be &bit to co, a good sale job. 'We =eel that we
should probably take in over a quarter of a willion dollars
31 3 August 16, 1984
in ticket sales and that money will come back to the Host
Committee.
Mr. Plummer: The
other question that I
have Is
that the
City
of Mismi last
yeRr put tip rotighly
It100,000
ir-kird,
which
wp.r, t- ' lie usr�,
of the fieility, Oth-7-�,r
Is that
going
to b?� nomirp
from, 11-lid* tot.,7 _�j, pot, of'
11,000,000. or ii
going
'Go bf- tl-117m Ci i-�v t',vo "i 1"
T
i i n d
Mr. Arlson: No, bf-,oni,isc of i-be, in-kird, t-c hp,
budget from �1,000,000 to �;1,1100,000, 111,'iO0,000.
Mr. riummcr., But wherc is that PdOU1,01,1,il rmorcy comirg
from?
Mr. Arison: From the privato sector ind the diffe-repen,
z,
between the 6�1"
1,1501000 and the 1,000,000.
Mr . P I i i-on m (,, r taco ask, it backwards. Maybe that way I'll
get to the arslinlcr 11m. it,-ryirg to derive. Is the two fifty
from ttl-he City brird onsh or is it cash and in -kind? t
Mr. Arison: It all hard cash.
Mr. Gar v: No ir-kind.
Mr. Plunirner: So the in -kind would be coming... In other
words, the City is going to get paid for the auditorium?
Mr. Ari.:3or: Yes, sir.
Mr. Plummer.,, And you will not be looking to us for in —kind
services?
Mr. Arisen: That is correct.
Mr. Plummcr : I think the very important factor, everyone
has to reaa1ze that vc. h,-xve great exposure, What control
will ve hieve ycthe rext that wre get as Load or
better (-.,Ypost.irc thcn, t:.!c, hz'd year? For example, is
Comm Jce Crcllo to be os he lt, year?
Is Cesar Odio to be therc? Do vre have a t-,_;uerantee of
X rumber of minutles expoi3ing this community n:T, much or more
than we had last year?
Mr. Ariser: We will have exactly what tic had last year,
which is approximately 45 minutes of air time exposirg the
Community.
. Mr. Plummer: I thirk that is very important.
Mr. Arisen: V.,le will have the, u�ame. At= a ruatter of fact,
with more time, they are promising ur, a much better quality
show, although I think we had excellent duality in the last
one.
Mr. Plumiiier:
that is the rental
of' the auditor-iuin
on a
daily ba-mis?
For round figures call
it f-ifty; the City
come
up with two
and fifty in -kind.
Mr. Gary:
It doesn't you
huavt icj pay it anyway,
J.L.
Mr. Pluinmer.
lk), there Jj.::; za biL
Mr. A r i _it u Y.,
I thin.k itlY a vlatt(.r
of' ca-th flow more
than
arythinL.
Mr. Pluira,�er:
You bt:t your bippy.
You are assuwing
using
that attitude,
it's going to wak-t: woney, I'm assuming
that
31 4 August 16, 1984
AOL
It 1sr1t. Because I'm corcerned about the $100,000 going
for the first ticket sales. that about the program? We get
all of the provor,,ds of the program?
1Mr. Aritzon: Yr-.-, nir�
Mr. Arn, fzonrqntnr�d the same national and
internntio.nni, povfcrngn n:7 venr?
Mr. Arlson: F r orm th n point: of v J, r, w of the telovision
cover,igc-, nobody onn F--,onrnntnn "Ghlt People will swl'Leh on
the tel(,visiop, bot, w(- will leave the s-,inte, covnrnp.c.
Mr. Plummer :
What -1 1 n, : -, a -I J, n F 1, ;;
you hn v o
t, I i (-,, same
COMMil"Mi CT,k--5 frOM
tho, nei-.works, from t1lic Furopcan
retworks,
as much an m-hlt you've had thi^ year.
Mr. ArinOn-,
Thnt's i7,1-int we were told
old
by them
Nj r . . Hon t y
Trainer n,--1-1(,d
rnr to cor-1cot onc t1l 1. n 17
V1 0 1 e;
reed some
staff +7,upport
from the City of r1jn.m. j..
Mr. Plummer:
in t1lat co-pjj.rg out o f o,,)
twc, fifty?
Mr. Arinon 3116t 1:7- ovcr -ird nbovc the
tvo JONAfty.
M r . P I uril.i m c r
Arc you spertkini7 of ores per:7on
one
hour a day
or arc you -�poa),,irg nbout a hxli�idrcd for
24 hours a
day.
M r . A r i ,; o n
I havc no it, tha"C'
can't answer
that.
Mr. Plummer: I
think it's a
big thing,
tlio way
our City [tanager
is paid.
I Mean if you fijr,,
eight
hours a day, we'd
have to say
no, we
j,t.
Mr. Arisen: You are going to be th(", 7y(>W tAjc...
I don't think, it's a big Issuc, rc,.311y, I last
pageart, where there wa:� a.,13solutely r.-o [))an, there
were about 5j), poop Ic tined.
Mr. P I urcim. c -, : Fo, ther e were a lot more than SiX people used
last time, a lot more,
Mr. Arisen: Thatf-s what I was told, anyhow.
Mayor Ferre: It seems to re that if we are going to do this
time, We need a lot more people cooperation from the other
governments, fletro, 11--iiami-Beach, and the State. I mean we
can't carry the burden of it totally.
Mr. Ari--en: I think al -,to there will be a lot of private
citizen-- vtlo C.11(l going, to be zi:51!ed to hell'! �t,nnd 1-11m, sure
we'll get qU-JLC a bit, Of hell).
Mr. Carollo: Kit". X,aYor, 1 thl,!A! tht-,- iiiiportant factor is
that the City of' L-i, tj e - ores that
t are
the maier coordinator:a of' the evL-nt.
M r . P I u i.,-, -t?, , � r .- AgreQd.
Mayor Ferre: We Want tjjLt, bv.cau--e we know for sure that
way.. ..
Mr. Carollo: Not Only to be ,-ure but let me say this for
the record. If it hadn't been the City of Miaihi was the
head of thia event, of the tail, it would rot have
been ab buoce��ful as it wab.
Mr. Arisen: hat' b correct.
31 5 August 16, 1984
0
Mr. Dawkins: Mr. Mayor, I have ore question ' in the event
that the City of Minmi puts up $250,000, srd In the event,
that one or more of It.be other do rot come up with
their share of thf� coney, whst.fs wrlttr�7-, J v) to ins�ur€� gnat:
Mr . Glnnr�f�,T- or t4hor f-vnr . rnrl>rrjn '41)- 2,30 to. Mir-M I or t'-11"n It,
a strP. fur.ho i'll thn r-IF-P.11 il)pll, r1inridn,,,z to
give Tnore* mo'nc'.t" 1--h;nn 11bi n Orn ;!-n(" thr!- I)p nnd rlln with that,
I , ,lei; I I -, 11 -. I I - C I t- o f "1 1,
CitY, F,1)PT-F7-!t1? P d(-� t--- hqv, - 1- 11, 1 nml Will -
get it s 50 w r i. t 4t r n J n ? 11 P� I that 1:)eer
eonsi&,red?
Mr. P), vimin cr Do li.kf- V-t7o, Pay tb-m th^ day after,
Mayor Fnrrc: I tbIrl,, P valid qucst;lon. 1 thirk the
point In tbat, ve, ennrot br. oi3t. on n lint) for 250
without othnr.-, eom.m j,ttl lag. T r-70-uld -,ot, objrct. 1-10 being
partinlly out or, n llirih pnr .^or ally 1, blut I think T would
object, to boirg, out-, 250 on a limb.
Mr. Cnrollo: I think the orly4way to socure. thnt 1.r that, it
be stipulntcd In t=rhatevcr contract agrcc-mcot, 1..T sir -,,noel 1--jith
them.
Mayor FcrT-c: The thing is that time is
of the c:7sorce.
They .arc f,(,)
, � ing to require some kind of n
i r
(1, -po t aver a
certain pf-T-J.od of timic. I would b(--
to
do that, tlx-, 1 n11,7,Fscr Puir. hi:7 or, It ard
leavc tllcl I, I I r d c C. r 14 t or� tbc TJ,nPFX..- Uk)�oljf-.h
f, r
not up.
j you
k n o v
we I I
S'j
the ir
Y
warto(I
a ri 1:� i
done
out !o:r
(F Q
with I-) i!-I., m iJ
0 1, r
out
61 Lhat
until C• Cl 010 ,1
Mr. F I r I
as
to what JAco: t" t-tic C i t. y t yc LY, to, tc 1?
11.!(_ ),,nc=u that we
put up $100,000, lxslft� I nczap th,_,tlb` wh,-,,t
we guaranteed;
wasn't it a hundred, and sixty-aix in -kind?
So urhat you are
saying, Mr. Y", a n a g e r is v e came up :with approximately
200,000 last year.
Mr. Gary: The issue becor-ne this other 250, we don't have to
do anythir2g else, no police t nc,... .
Mr. Pluit.lmer: No, �s I under,-A..nd it, if we give ther-a a cash
grant, 1.2.1 of our Support �-ervioes� rill be pzid for, with
the excuption of th(i. :Acff, which Joe i!z, dei,i&tndir,(, , and I
agree. In other wordt,., they are. ay to pfor police;
they are going 11,:o pay for- ,"ire; they are going to pz__;y for
the auditorium. V ' 'ell, w'Eiit �luirute. In YiiIi.Ater hi re,
by the way, Itt ire rc-CA very quickl.y. In hilettrf he
states in, licre, tl-Tt it,
in the that the
foregoing finanoi_l tt� broth
sides, thv detailt-A z;Lruement, il'OlUdiPL OUl- U,--Ui-;Alr-aCt
terms, 5 h a 11. b (:: Lf x c c u t (-, d by bcth 'I"Ic, C�:bt of'
lighting :sl-iall ue your -Vour it-1--nirg the
City. Do wt: 1,.nuu -oh--t tht, (:,OA Cactor c;ri 210itil.,fa
Mr. Gary., � 0 , 0, 0 0 1 o r -; I Lo t.� I I L i i , i i : 8- ,
Mr. kriton: I Ut-.dLY_."1OC;d 'ChUt O-iu- :,,utttior., of lighting is
that there in a perwarent improvement that 15 needed for
Knight Center, 5o it is not part of this budget.
31 6 August 16, 1984
Mr. Plummer: Yes, but I still feel that we have to know how
much we Pre talking about.
Mr. Gprv: fir. Mavor, members of the Commission, the
&
light Inp, --111-1011 e 0^ 1:50s 41 TOOO Is the -show I I F h t I r g
Accord ir g U) Cfr:- nr . 1 1'. in n one shot cost T-T� cpr use
for othnr T�V. we hnv,� in the_. - -
Mayor rre l t-!ould nlsnumel Out Of that Million
dollars, v— woi)ld ... T t-fould boPn Would thit cover the
lightirf7, 0- not:?
Mr. Arlsor: Tb-nrc wi.l), br, no other Post..
Mayor Forre., Tlint i4-113, pjjr for iGhn light; ng- because I
think VI'll,
_It, !-Te 01-11f7,111, to 00 n,014 J.S b1)V permanent lighting. So
out of tj,.,�?t �j,)ioo,000, that would include the purchase of
permarrnt lighting.
Mr. Ara. son : NOT nor 1"he idea was gat, lenst the way I
understood j.t is that f,r!jp �:jjt Ccrtcr necds on improvement in
lighting. Thi—,,i is going to be r7, pern-ancrt investment 'which
has nothing to do with this budgctr
Mr. P11--e—, Thn". would bc ny) ndditional $50,000.
Mr.
Arison.- But it, not,
Aror
Mr.
Plurrmcr,
lk-hc total cost Of
this
City{ in,
J- 't,300,000,
plus
t"upporz t
I "I in 5 A.1-
is
1, o 1-c do without
the
llannf,,cr
C
1?
)
Do vie appl-ove
for?
Mayor Ferre: I viould 'Hu'O, li,hc 0111-5�1f�I,() do is
approve it in princip-1c, thcn j-tl,-�vr tjio I I the
'1�ndr, of a
detail:-3 of the -re Ir, i'll,
payment th2t hzl—1 to 1.-tc- rir-curcf,f
Mr. Carollo- Vr. tdic a I about an
audit, or the 11'Unagcr, hint gi.j.,ci of cn --ud-lt i,- he talking
about?
Mayor Ferre: An audit for the last show; I don't think that
has been completed.
Mr. Plummer-: It's outlined in the memo, Joe, that
Commissioner Dawkins Sent.
Mr. Gary: The policy and procedure you follow anytime we
contribute money, anything over $15,000 we audit the total
program.
Mayor Ferre: 1 think if' wo are owed any rnnonies I thirk
that's going to h.,vct to be taken irto account to thf! whole
thing.
Mr. Carollo: 'I'He qucttion izi are we auditing in as far as
'100,000?
to flow ul�k�U Our S�- 2
Mr. G�:ry: Tiic, %4,holL7 thlne,,
Mr. Cbrollo- or Lxcl uli;Iuditing all the expenses that they
had, wh6t- thity
Mr. Gary- er yt.fii
Mayor. 1-erre: t,s It ziffects our contribution, everything
J,
needs to be auaited.
51 7 August 16, 1984
Mr. Carollo: That's not what the Harager Is saying, Mr.
Mayor.
Mr. Gary: Well, let me answer the qviristJor so you know.
Mr. Carollo: He wants to -udiG kl-Aic- P-11sole Miss Uriverse
Pageant.
Mr. Gary: Our Initial. jntn r) 1, i4n- "o ;audit our portion of
the money, ilso the J)sdc County's portion of the morey, all
local money in terms of our eortrnot Cornn,11--sion Dawkins
4
raised the question In tern ; of some other nudills, v'hich
included tile nudit of the total program, vlileh includes Mr.
Glasser, zl')ioh .1 think woul(i be Food nnywsy for thn mere
fact to determine 14hcther ot r noho"F, much profit Mr. Glasser
is getting, hot-s n1jell nopey tho City 1:7, Put" rip, up to
determitici4iat bennfitr gCtlArgtIhich 71100'd ns:-'J'st us
in also naking a decinion in h014 nuoll PiOnCir T'=r sMould
R
contribute . Tile sz-1pie thi -rg v-7c do for the Grnnd Prix.
A
Mr. Plummer: r-,,Iy I acj, ore other quention on the record?
Leslie, i,,Thnt did the City, or did the Ho-,t Committee derive
last yo— from hr r-m F. - porrnI. k oonppro.xir --11o1y'2
Mr. Jc:-OJ(, !FTi"-ji-i Jr t"' 6 00 p r 0 f I I n t I n a 5 t
from I i c r, c� t I i c p T C, r,-- r,i il SC J, f with
r f tic rrrr rcct�,,'F
7. ( -10c, on o .7
the ndvc,, V':1 ,:,-"JlF 1- C c ho.-T-7 nur ropey, if
SPY" 11C F-1 "j, 7- -'0 Dut from the
sale <-') 17 1"J, I o o ly F--�F'dc 16,500.
Uhor.; did thal. tV'-�Onoy , "1 o t t")
Mr. Pr~r, J. n To tile Host Committee to pay our other expenses
that wo have.
Mayor Ferre: We need an accounting of that too.
Mr. Partin: We'll be glad to have the whole program
audited.- The City part is casy to audit, because that went
to Glasser, and the County part....
Mr. Dawkins: Hr. Partin, the I -lost Committee had nothing to
do with selling of the ads, to put in the book?
Mr. Pantir: ],,,Io, it uas a company vie corcessiored out to do
that.
Mr. Dawkins: Are you going to do that. next year?
Mr. Pantin, Ule will see if we have more time.
M r . D a wk "L n s Thuat t-;. uliere your profit is.
Mr. P&ntin-.
W(G11, rewcrubcr
that v' e
have to put Out a
program by contract.
T[ie idea
way that
we make some profit.
We had to do
it zL::-,Y vlvYs
cvcn
if �,'e lost,
Money. So we tried
to get it to
the point
that u(t
ut ltja�t
i:iakc -,ome money.
Mr. Carollo. The probl cr et thte tdioz col.,.6Lraint that
we were w (". Y, 1, i 1! t> '. " i i I
Mr. `that' -- ri girt,., it i - it I) o 111 . Ie,
Mayor Fe r r e e f o - e 2' h et. tG oth(�r members of the
Committte, or LcLcibtr� of vhc- public who wart to make a
Statement, are there any other queat'ions from the
Commission?
r, 1 August 16, 1984
Mr. Plummer: Yes-, I have ore other. Didn't we derive
something last year from the ticket sales?
Mr. cessr o(iio: 49.11oji.000.
Mr.
Plurnmc-.r -.
P J, , 1
1-'rzn hoe monies all go to the production_ or
did
we get ��o-mo
of
1� L?
Mr.
Odic: Part of
the contract was that he would keep that
Morey.
Mr.
Plummer
lie ),,nepz
it all.
Mr.
Odio: Tiot
this
tine.
Mr. Plumnncr t Fof T. upderstard this time he gets the first
$100,000.
Mr. Odio; Dot for ti-,o :7hows.
Mr. Plummer: T� thnt �50,000 each show?
Mr. Odio: hry�JICW YOU 111clint to do it. He gets $100,000 and
.Y
we keep the rr_-:7t, of all.. the total shows, which is a total of
six F! Y (I r`- (
Mayor Fcrr(,_,: 011hor questions?
Mr. Perez: Mr. Ptantirt I mould like to ask what car. we do
am= in order to, request to organizer to study the possibility
for exterding Universo franohise to a Free Cuba?
Mr. Pantie: Ile h.ad d1sovsscd thut inforrially ard they had
that a few yca, ,, ap�o, Ve cvr cxplorc that 'Where Miss
Universe in the '(01n, thcy had it.
Mr. Odic): Dcl you v,,int mne to te,"11. you the truth? I talked
to Mr. Glt,_cncr It.
Mr. Carollo: 11c spent hour ,, t, 11-:,.ing to Mr. Glasser about
It, the 'TI-1hror- of vs.
Mr. Perez: Yes, but Cc-sar, you gave
me an excuse
that I
dorlt think was
fair last t1true. They
said that they
carrot
accept Free Cuba
because Cuba is not a
state and it is not a
republic. But
I would lil,,,e to
you about the
other
members we had in the last years festival.
For
example, a b o u t.
Crr.-� y r ir a n lf,.land, about
Cook Island,
about
Guadalupe, about
E o r., g, K o r r, , about"
Singapore, about the
virgin
�re they state or republic?
Mr. Odio: 'icEl, thc-y trc countries.
Mr. Perezt St4tc or rcjullicy, why?
Mr. Odio: for th(-
Mr.
Mr. Odio: --which iOf 'L"he Urited States.
Mr. Per(, Eor.ov bull the arguruert they use is that
they htve_ to Ut k, e_)Ublic.. till thet5e territories
that 1 1nVe,., 1, 11 ON, t:,Ll L't- (' 1:ut 1. LLe t, or r t. Iju b1 i c, a For raially, I
would 111-ft, t,4, LdO tO Ly LGIiOf. this-t r r it truo t trc today thzrt
we to tti(, ccymmun.!ity, of this
festival 11t or to Free
Cuba it . urd_ of i;4 Cubz,;Lr.,_t- in
Mr. Plummer: lt,v not a franchise.
August 16, 1984
Mr. Perez: Yes, I think they call it franchise. That I s
what they call it.
Mr. Carollo: That's what they give us, a franchise to
have....
Mr. Pern7: For a representation or whatever they call it,
but I w-ould like that a thousand of Cubans in exile have the
opportunity to choo5c to replace the Cuban communist
representation that they had until 1959. 1 would like to
make that part of the formal motion that we adopt today.
Mr. Arison: I think that practically it Is impossible
because If that particular Cuban young woman will be
residing here in the United States. If she is good enough
to be Hisr. Cuba, she may also be goad crough to bri Miss
U.S.Ao How aro yOV going to split it. up?
Mr. Carollo: It'S the '32MC thinfl, n_-, miss rurrto Rico. She
could go for t-oth.
Virf-jr. Tn)-nrd.
Mr. Perez: 7 ha t, 1:7 r j F� it -iG d c N, 11PVc ILS.
am t'-�JkJi,nF-c1nc1',hjrF-,, 10 try
to polt"t-J-7'r tlfii- i-c tit 0 c r Eard
as c.
qu e-
1.ilkc to
hvN, c i a we
tro a s rg
C 0 11 :i
j be proper
. I c 1) 1) - 1C, i i 1) 5, is to select a
q u c
Mr. r u i i Z- n to the organizers,
but 3, h,
Mayor Fcri-c— L_CI_11.-"(i UICIC11 Lriscr, this is not a
c o. n d i t or thins a t'..Toold be a positive
cr ha_--, poirAcd out.
request 2- -1- t h e Co ni m ::vie 1-1
Mr. Carollo: I think, what :jhouad be Included in the request
is there is Eomc Cuban territory that is free, that is not
in the domain of com.,munist Castro and his forces, which is
Guartanarao. 't1e have that precedent as using Miss Free Cuba
in Guantanamo.
Mr. Arisor: 'Hii-cs Guartaninmo.
Mayor Fe— r (.,- : 1'here
is a precedent
to that. Let me
tell
you
what the I.-Wecedur-t
is. *1,11cre wL�s
a miss
Canal Zone at
ore
time. '1'hercy has
beer, 3o you
know,
I think
that
is
some tjx j thLt the,
organi-Zer6 are going to
have to
consider.
Are there tiny other
questions
from
members
of
the
Commi:�nion?
Mr. CLIrollo:
Mr. Rayor,
I think that
possibly, be&ides a
formal rc-queLt frort, tile
cor=i--lion of the pageant,
maybe
what vic 15hould do is L%nnviV!
11 Proup
to Gotin
with
Mr.
ar'd tj�jk, tO
pi��,r,-,orally
Lbout it. I I V v
,� p en t
ho u r s i t�� UL I u
pz;� --- t L v_ I I- I t
U 111 �! LbOU) t
I t b LA t I It i., A,
t h a t
it Would bv
L.0 hiu In
those
In
i'rtc 1Ly`_tQY.
Mayor vtr-rc'0 i t Uciu:L�ItLt:c al.*d we'll
-r-d' uthier that
ircludt� thc-, LCA.-LE, CLLI�_,ber� of cciaaiit:rct� groups
community. It
would beCUIJL�Yk'
you would bubmit the names that both YOU....
51 10 August 16, 1984
Mr. Carollo: I think it should be a small committee,
limited to no more than seven individuals.
Mayor Frrrc!: fir,
Mr. H.T. I'll r , Mn V o r and members of the Commission,
first of 11.1 Irl-, rin 1-lake P personal privilege of thankirg
Mr. Mayor, for -,ppoinitirg ne also for serving In this
commission and 1-1 grj,)_ you (lid not say it, T'n sure you
will say, it, the cornm issior and the community owes a great
deal of gratitudc to Mr. Arlsont Tionty Trainer, Leslie
Partin, and othcrs who nervod. if I ever needed Somebody to
negotiate n contr�7ct, If T could afford fir. Arison, held be
the man 11d gct� I think the first question that. needs to
bee addressed is, is this a good deal for the; City rand for
the community? Obviously, it is. Especially if the other
governmental ortitic-5 would talco care 1 h, r q I
of their fi re
financially. Thery is no question but that the community
will get as miich or, more than Ur. G 1 a s s (, r will get.
Obviously, fir. Mayor, you 1,.rovq! re
.7 . I rise becauf3o thorq a
those who share my viev.-s that the, participation. of South
Africa in this pageant in totally unacceptable. First of
all, let me say that there are those who say that raising
this question choi-=s that I ind those iiho r;harc my view are
nothing
mare thnn rcp --mall bond of regative people
.,ativc or -
who run n.round finding fault. 1-Tith cverything is trying
to be done in the iPtcT-Pv1J0n.-:J Cjlv
Mayor- FcvrE�.- III, n, i. 1 -1 11 , lct, An'4-c,rI-1` vol, kX) .to u
that I to .1. cithcr to be
regatl.vc or r,I.:J I
Mr. Szii.th., I i r , If IM y o r c,C_`i61 c"-:7j.u(F thJ to you., I
ivht
have ncli' i, e Y) 1, J, o n (T, d I Y", 1,�l c "'A' 1 1, 13W. to ILIjo,":c 1"ho n
, t , � It" I - i-2cl,i- ? t'Jt n d it
sbarc th,"A' vj.cl�. 'Y �,, o I', f j d jA 1.),,
d
I In- t ot I c: t;,; T-: 61; J v, w j, t, h
1 5)" U)c
h a v e. i: Y c d f I, (VCEI P,r1kJ,ojj*
r a t i
d i f f t I 1 1101,01.6 bc o
par tic i prt.c 1) c-.,, c,-u c Souilh LfrioO 60c. not, colile hc-rc to
expound i tz; r a C. i s t rcgir,,ic It 0 0 ui C. 1,; hcrc juSt to
In
participate, but I szay that reither does, South hfrica L tend
to participate in the Olympics to cypound its racist
propaganda, yet I stand with the internationil Olympic
committee wl-iich banned not only South Africa, but banned
South Africa's press from participation in the Olympics. I
brought this qUC5ti0r. Up at our very first meeting and I was
advised, I'm pure: accurately, thcat as to Mr. Glasser, this
question wais non-negot i able. On our second meeting, I
mentioned it to you and you said I should voice ruy concern.
I did, and 111r. hrisen and the other members were kind enough
to hear what I hid to tay, but they are not the ones to make
the decinion, obviously. To say to this corilaunity that
participLtion o Z' South A fr i c a ire thi!i (- v e, r t i:� nor -
negotiable, wlierc our fuv,.,ds, funds frow Liberty Cit,,y and
Overtown, dolic-1rL �re being u.-�ed, i._ like gra-bbing
Black Riumi in the collur `,nd spitting in its- face. It's
just that bz=d. Suuth Africu i-L-, dilffure:t,t froii As
the ration: ::of L-r�d the of' r:�tion5 indicate,
South tifrica i8 difi'L-rent frou,, z, lot of ether But
you 11!nof , _- or: et i I.r., e, � i n 1 effort to !eekp th� cou_munity
toget"her, Ut- LLI'u, Ll�d ZatttTjjj�t to as
iMpOtel'O,~ 0C t< LZt k, Y`C- 4. 1A -hould not bu -,o interjllretevd.
I
-Y n t t r k� d to htar
suggt�,t tu You, Z_nd I w V �-r
(tea -!rconi -tlot:tr cofLi,,tA8 a
tu you thz;it Ca_,trol�,L
free Cubz:� pLY-Liuil' , a, n I. - t,Cuba
be allowt�d to piz r t i (,, ! 11_i- t it would i-lot only be it?oral
homocide, taut Wh&l� eleCti0t, tinge CaWL- around, it would be
political suicide. That is becau.5e wy brothers and sisters
31 11 August 16, 1984
411k
in the Latin community demand ttat they be respected. And
so do we. I suggest to you to allow fir. Glasser to come
into town ;Pd make a dr--pT th;it- I admit js an Food for the
City ss it Is for hin, � For 11-1n, to '.0.1 "1 this Issue is
norm egoti,P01- i..P tot-111,11 rT E pt. ub1. With rRIrd to the
isson b(Aforn thl.- Cor-iij:-ZSJO-i', 1-10dPV. T P-Jf YOu ",0 MPIC(' P:7, A
fo r rn i I rnr3 1', 1 o r , fir 71 P y- or Y pr- in d J, L i r g- P x Cxo1lars
of tbl" CILy Coreatti''OnnCl upon "Oull-Ah Af=lcs b--ftr,, hnni�d from
competing. Now, I'm n.iirf- thit ther(, i-- n corcern. 14 (-, 11 r
look, sbr, be^T-(' thi - S !,Crr Srd It, was no bj,F problem-.
Unforturistcly, or r c i 11 v f o rl-, i; P n t c I v for the City the
negotiations startcd Into ;)rd It s-;ns not: until, she wa^ a
firalist that most pcoplr-, ^ven knob s1he was 11cro. I'm sure
you rnsli--cd that. P. U S. H. care out
11 n P d opposed It
S. C.F.. C . c s-, m e taut -- P d opposed It. This, is rot JuSt a matter
of nit-picking.. It's Pot just n roal ' t, (-' -, of son-cor-r! trying to
divide the community. If anything, It's trying to bring the
community tog
,(,-thnr. Racism, nrli-s0 cmitism, and communism
are encrifies of u5 all. They conic out of the same ugly womb
of prejudicc and bigotry, When my brothers and sisters of
the L;) t in communit-v I r C t r ca t, c d on fa i r I y 1) C (-- a u s 0 of
commuri---i-ii, then I should speak out. When people in the
Black community or thc BInck community Is being treated
unfairly, them it shouldn't be the DInc)-r community standing
alone like t-;illowirF ing voice in the wind. I
appeal to voi,) 1-,o rnakc it a condition precedent, Pot suggest
to him that he. .7hou,1d not, not recommend to hin, that he
should not., but: make it a, formal notion that conditioned
precc6or,". 11c, ilic, cortract is that South Africa be banned.
Thanl, voii-
Mayor 171(. 1 , I- (, , 111 , - Smith, lot me ask you a question. As I
recali Aforr-,,ive my ignorance, South Africa wzis, but is
rot, of the United Hations. Is that correct?
Mr. Sarib: Thnit's correct, I
sr.-d It" wa.s and should not in the
futurc be ,.i participart in, the cortest .
Mayor Ferre-, But tits: po'M�t. i td thi�7it Jr 11-he case of South
Africa, ti-te United tool, ;-- formal, vote.
Mr. Smith: I arij anitirg. you to tak.c a formal vote.
Mayor Ferre: is undcrst,and, but I'm saying that there is
ample precedent iri irternational circles where South Africa
was thrown out of the United Hations.
Mr. Smith: Arid is the City of Miami going to welcome them
when th(:United Nuation's is not?
Mayor Ferre: I'm not arguing tilat....
Mr. Carol.1o: I wiQi we were not members of the United
Nation,5.
Mayor F4.:rrc- 11iii tzot Zlr[},uir.g wit).-i you, Mr. Smith, I'm just
trying, to CaALI)Ii�h in wny ow�n ulind to proper, legal precedent
that. I third: there is L corc-nt to be
made that 'I'louth tft,Jc,in cff'e,,ct, ib ol.,c of, thc fLw r-ations
that hLs b ce Y: 1) z , t-! C d fr 0 io t) i e Lh: i teal )iu t i o i�,,s Th e (.)nl y
1 o
prob) etta ttiLt I )iL�IvcisJL poterit,iLl. pi (b)c I I ]i y It Y. ow,
every yeLr the thmitc6 V(:I,v elo-t- to throwirg
Israel out, oi- Ott- Uhl,it(-d tI ty a w. -If th; tto h�ppen,
and if wt: tlivre tc, 1-ollof, th;t wl-cleedort, thtti, 1 you'd
end up v€ *4 th t htis c-1 t t:, i � t I a 11 c I ij I -,- u c v c r; t u a J 1. Y t having
Israel i f in(ltzt-a I no, c-cl is cvkt- ti,t.c c=r cs ta t 01- tht: United
Natiol,!,% I f I t o L I c�r- o f b a i., n i n g all
comrounitt nLtlor,, ur L11 Riarxi--t nation2�, it you wivh, or
ratlonb aJ)trt governtutritt, are it! power that- believe it the
Marxist ph i 1 o -� o ph y , ! w i g ht retaird you that other than
31 12 August 16, 1984
Spain, where the socialist party formally in session two
years ago, took out of their preamble that. they believe In a
Marxist society, all. of the iocinj d_7nonr;)t-je Fove-rrme.r.ts of
Europe have in U.h-ir pr(-imbl,,7- v.hpt 4-h,7y b n I i e ve
in S M;)rXi7i. 00(11�ntivr t InvDidJ_nF,, Frsnve-, T t , -,-Ty. ^nd many of
c-
the othr of Wnst--.crn Furop�- �O. T h tin)- I-- b;1ve
r�r:-11-.Prid your polr t nnd I (I o t, .. k 1 11 r-,, ` If
to ... P! 0 T I I n d bin
we get. y, on and T. 1C.al lc(-d I f T4 c c o .1 1) o V-
don"- Fr in pre judFIng, polil-je;i]. cord it-ionn 1, 11 e n
iri.,olvco
it mu:3t bn cql)ally applied all. over. I think It
clearly understood that If wn don't grt ipvolvr-d in one
area, we onnPoItE, get Involved In another area ilso, :70 that
it brings back the isnue of for examplot tli:7.sIli.earaCua, if
Miss Nicnragua were to be, proscnt. 1=7- hid Hisf; Poland and
Miss Y11F t, E, I goo),)Vin' but we llav<, to den), with thin issue. I
don't know how you felt (Wring the Olympic gancSl, but and I
am a deniocrat, and was, :sorry to ace President Garter not
participate in tile Olympic games four year:,, ago. Of' course
the consequences were rco-J.procal this ycar. I don't, thi-nk
the events of this rature, th,-_it, Pre ron-political by rsturv,,
really should have political corditions, bconuse if wc, startto got into that, then the Arab courtrics...Snudi Ar I �bia,
for example, very specific, illy stites that it-, his as a
condition of its cxisterce the climinalk-liop of Israel as a
natior,
Mr. Sm, ith: Mr. Mayor, if we are going to have ore yard
stick, as You CxP,01)Pd__
Mayor Ferro- j t=Iank that's your point.
dumb. —
Mr. Smaith, f�rc you prepared to invite Castro13 Cuba? I
would ),et.
Mayor Fori-c T, thin), the problem is that we have to use the
same I think you're right about that.
M r . S rii i t, h : 711C Cz,'_,,Mc yzr,rd LA"ic), vould acquire a invitation
be c,i: t, c n d c 6- to every r. a t', j, o T, to T.,a r t i C i p;, t C . I don't
think. . . I . think that them' rrc CJJ,,A li,,ctionr :. I really think
r ---c �
there n c di2tirctions. Yugool,,,,v R ra, Du'garia,j, r
Russia, that's different. I didn't -ay we had to follow
what the United Hatiors does. I used that only as an
example to show what is happering, by respected bodies
dealing in political and nor -political arenas, as it relates
to South Africa. South African is, a country where small a
small minority of Whitc,-) are ruling a large majority of
Blacks in a manner that is known to everybody here that is
brutal. It' s. not acceptable. First of zall, I think in
terms of argument, you have inade the be 16 ar g umen t that can
be made, but it's not :ufficient, Mr. Hayor. The best
argument is to say, Iii-oo1r, if k�e, c,11 ir�tt South
L I - I M � e
Africa, wre do t' ! e stop?" T) I a t" I ;S the 'De t argurnert
availablt, but when you start looking ai
, � t whatl- happening,
I'm sure just: recently you �-_Jjould have g 0 t t 1 ": g i --- I Z, t i 0 n
passed by the City o1c J3o;st.oii from Hiz._..yor Ifli4tc-, where the
City of Boston, L fc-W Y(-Lf's aLo COn!5iderk:d 01%e of! thc most
racist cititt, in taaerict-a, bat nt:L-d Or- topd doir.,L bul-iness
With arly company doinEausa .1 - I
uJith South
Mayor
Ferre:
by tile WLY, just on
the
I tlght say
that
my offiec
i'-1 :5iiuij�,r
typ(;s.
which
I will
b( itl tite C,tv
oj" I
Mr.
S-L i t h
111 r H, or, ir: ,ici
period of`
'moat that
AA 0"!
car. I t be bet psi de when
it's
a LO(A
finay.ci_l b�V:C-flv
t.
Mayor Ferre: I undtrbtand, Mr. Smith, I think the argument
that you make is a reasonable argument. As I understand it
'51 13 August 16, 1984
in its simplest context,
it says either
you take a position
on South Africa,
and If you do
not, then
you must apply the
same yard st,,Jek.
throughout.
I thiric
I i)rderstRnd your
point. Ary other
membcrs, Mr.
-nn
voi-i -irp i m cmber of
the eorn-fl.-I-J.c- n-nd
T thark, Voli
for
n�
scour PI Tt-inl P -tior
Is ther-
Lo ndd 11"o thn:7r-, proe---edinus?
Mr. Ralph S n I) e I l, n -, - tir - rin - ' �For r (70 11M I S S 10 r , I i U:; t ",-, --- t to
tell yoll that. I fully -111pporti I -Ain efforts that the committee
has put togcthnr, I compliment Mr, Artse-1), t.csl lc , HOrtY
Trainer and the rest of tile committee In the job tbnt they
have done. I think that; first I nuot tell You I WeS
completely pgains, the fact that -t 1,1iss Universe was going to
Miami. I thought it was an expenditure that was rot a worth
while one. For the first tinic in about four or five years,
I saw tile show last year. I was convinced that every penny
that was put into it wais worth it:. I. think that the
community is coning together. I'm happy that, I was part of
bringing the Grand Prix and Is now one of the events that is
helpirF out with the rew Image of Miami. I complimert. Mr.
Carollo, yourself, and- tho full Cons, ispion for thinking
positively and bringing , rew things to Hiaami Which is what
this community nccd5. Thank you.
Mayor Fore: Mr. Trnincrr, is there anything that you want
to add to this?
Mr. flonty Trnincr� .1, vould
rinylic rco--J) 110 1- 11 �,, r (1, our
— , ( � o 7 11, 6 1r 't'-h -n6 1 (.St7,c 6 1 r
b r i n
I k'-, 0
Z,; M
c 0 Un V
1,(. V 0
al -o )(1
a'
our c
i.o
0 t hJ c) 12 1) �_ I
-ou'l 6 F C:)
Mr. J, r 0:': c J
i0 I d ng
a 3. i �A i,
ore T',,u I') •c,
to Supparlk, C-LII- Ot
J. thi"F.11, •L- t1c City of
Mi am i Q 1, e yc cr �--i t�
J, r:r i r eti I, tl-1 i-�, Ki -
17 5 S
Y, CA -- v c
U n i v e r o ,,,r- C-E C, bclif- -
you, %-,,c cot, Jplt h-ve done a
thing without the City of f-iiami
and the Han.-Gcr of the City
I
of Miarrii, and Ccs,,ar and all the resources that we used that
the City of Hi. arn i , which acre
muoll more than were intended
to be, but it saved the contest
and it brought us a
fantastic review all over the
world.
Lhe
Mayor Ferre: Thank you very e much. Are there any of r
members of the committee that wish to speak? Any members of
the public this time? If rot, we go to commerts. I have a
rote here that somebody just passed me that the Pliami-Dade
Public Library was just check and an of' January 14, 1984,
South Africa is a member of the United Nations. I don't
know that it i,,; or it i,5nit. I'm ju!3t readinj,,,, that', I rote
here also on a positive... That docL-nit in any vlay negate
the r
Ila just for the record
aLzuitient that K.r. 112Amith rnade. I
clarifying; thLt. I'd like to al -to point out too thir}gs -
4
Accordinr_z to thu Hie!:�cn ratinfz tliich of couv 5 the
guidellncs in V'IeUil!E, thQ Ut�iver--t-- L' L7ear. t
"' C w t h ,d
was such �A -' U C Q t ) I �; t Ui 0 1 , 1) e- () 1) 1 t t 111 t� year r Z; Q t the
-oai HiLdnii t 11 Ln ulLtccd hthe buz�-,tb�211 Ll! :stir.t.,L-je
pageant
that vc-ek- I L�iPllt po-int out thzA tliQ all
-
star gL�,-izit onu of the ter, Lutt zAc Whci---
d tel(-V
Ion t�robrams
a YeLr YcLr i:fA0- 1 thit-,k thal—% i-, a
very -- i g, r; z;n t Cehievcllierft , L c Ci� L, -- t: 1, 11 (,- 1; 111 -- t c - I - 11," �.! il le ,
alorp Vill-, iLlj--upet-bowl i;,-.,d 'cht vo'Id of the
most w6tchkd tarC raE, kbc that thelt- ratings
indicate t1liat 80,000,000 Awericanb watohtd thL- olymq�ic games
during the two weeks that the Olympic games proceeded, if
31 14 August 16, 1984
the Nielsen and the Arbitron report that between 70,000000
and 80,000,000 watched the Miss Universe Pageant, that Is a
tremendous schievement in Itself. It is my personal opinion
that it in wnll worth the 125OrOOO a ycsr� plus, qd(JItional
experser, T for one 11 if the rent. of' thi-n Comimtsslon An in
agreement and QI-Ing to vote in, fivorr of proccr-cling in
principle A, o"Llining K)ptever ncndn 1',c) bn oiit),Jnc-.d an
conditionn and TattioF the Nnopger proceed with the
negotintiops. Any other
Mr. Plurnmner: I think the Manager Tins some bad news about
lights that needs to get on the record,
Mr. Gary: The lighting is not r50,000, as we mentioned
earlier. The cost would be $150,000,
Mayor Ferre: That's what I figured it was. Mr. Manager, it
seems to me that right now! the Knight City of
Miami/University of Miami Convention Conference Center is
costing the City of Miami several millions of dollirs. We
are now spending a lot of time, effort and money In getting
an exhibition hall to that it won't cost U5 so ouch.
$150,000 expenditure in the physical plant of On Miami
Convention Center to improve its use, is a lot of money, but
it's n drop in the pocket ps compared to the need. We have
to do it, boonuoc it's the only voy "e'ro going to got other
important rhoTor 5y) thj,:7 1,ov=n� I don't think that is a
considcrptlon on thisF hcorurc Ovc-,r 'if vc dontt co'nic to an
agreement WS Eins PnRcrsc, nnos 1j, ('so c-nit hcrc, I
Will bc r=rrtivc of MY n1crAurc thrt rould novc to upend
$150,000 rw6 pct t proper liGhtinr and Aouno synOF in that
hall. 00h, v onvmc nKV,'
Mr. Qro))o:
11.
Mayor, I
think
we recd to brinr this to a
head nn6 yok
on
it.. The
only prcn,
uoncrrr.,r, rw i:r�� an
area of r-n
ru6jt,
105
not Lhe
r1rive t0inri or, to have an
audit of' Cho
ny
;or diter;
the Cty
f=nur
g an
audit of 0"
wdio&
content, I
thSolf that probably
going QW;
;in crcr
i;hcrc
to in: unacceptable,
maybe naL,
but
1 vould
just
9=n thnt it would be
unecccptnht ci
to
the Onn
UnOcrue 1pgcuy-:t, F r'n, 1-11"), -y you
can't blame
them.
,
Mayor Ferre; Commissioner, I do not understand, and I would
agree with you that it is unreasonable for the City of Miami
to audit Paramount Pictures and the Miss Universe Pageant
Corporation. I don't think that's in question. The only
thing that is to be audited, as I understand it, is our
portion of it and our expenditures, and the rionies that we
expend that we....
Mr. Carollo: That, I think, is very reasonable, but we
should stipulate that.
Mayor Ferru: I triear we are not going to audit Paramount
Pictures. Are we?
Mr. Dawkin-,: h�dam City Attorney, wher public furds are
used tO -uppor-t L Vct tL ire then can the public 01c funds
were u5ed, demand an audit to find out the total those fhappenings
of undb.
Mrs.
Dougherty: You
can dewand an audit on those funds
that
were
publau fundn that.
were
expended
ir: participation
of
that
event. if you
want to
audit ionything l'urtijer
than
that,
you're LoVE to
havt to
put that
In your contract
with
the
Hutt ConwitLce
or make
that a
requirement of
your
funding
in the fuLure.
Mr. Dawkins: Tnbnk you.
31 15 August 16t 1984
Mr. Plummer: Let's clarify on the record what we're talking
about, because maybe I'm even s little confused. It is my
understanding that COMMISSiOner Dawkins is asking or
demanding thnt nn n"dlt of the psgesnt total he done, not
Gulf and Vostarr, thc parent company, or any of that, but
Just the PP9cPnt 117olf an staged In Miami in 1984. Is that
what I'm
Mr. Gory; CorrocK.
Mayor Ferrp: But you have to define what that means. Does
that aeons for oxnmple, the expenditures of Paramount
Pictures In Now York?
Mr. Dawkins: What it means, Mr. Mayor, what I asked for and
what I'm looking for in return is the total amount of monies
that the pageant; generated, period. You nee, Mr. Glnnscr
asked for money and more money. Somewhere along the lines,
I'd like to for myself, what did ter. Glasscr get= for
the T.V. rights? K didn't give then away. But yet he
keeps coming, back, �,nd haying that lie helped tho- City of
Miami. Of course tic did, But rye n1so put him in a position
to demand more money. Somcwhere along the lines, just for
my personni cd1fication, I nccd to be able to say to myself,
we arc nol,- tic .TnF, :-�hvftcd, t'n nre cooperating for the
benefit of near ybody, thran rjj
Mayor Fryrr:
T
you!d ngrccr
as long as...I
think !in 1VCC1KnU0yF
loot
yovIrr 5nyJ�nr—
VTo o,-n invite
the Vow 1 4
Pri CT: PPIS
VC CNpend
rq)vicr In the
suporbov?, 1, k
RCTV1
;a r"ditfur
of
whut ihc 001 hint
Iq 01 NQt
TV NvPcrKc1Q
Cavmitbcc rode.
I U010 V(. it:
V, lh01 in
1 Q Uni 111C
rywV301"-ur of
publiv ;�wnn,
rini Unt A thip,
Ar ITopci ,
K" ) don't -
corrrCY 71 !1
) 'r Mow,, 1 dorK
VANI you' v
; rVirf f or a n,
audit Q 1 ht
LOUVOIA 3 UP N'
Un h 1 ; vvyrn)nh
Y A r: to r ( n made
thrcuEh iTKY ruhnwwy ping ONVOyrn in thl; PICqnnt, Are
you'?
Mr. No, Ura askKE; Urt, thc linrarnount pictures
paid Hr. GlaEsar for their rhhts to do his. Thnt's all.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. harager, what is the policy, tic were
forced into a new policy recently. What is the policy as it
relates to all people who receive funds.
Mr. Gary: In that event, not only do we audit
our money, we
audit the money
of that event. A
good example
is, as I said
before, the Grand
Prix. Another
good example
is Mr. Robbie
and the Orange
Bow!. Any event
that we give
money to we
audit our money
and their money.
However, — .
Mayor Ferro: Do we got an audit....
Mr. GLry: Let we finish, if 1 Lay, let me just explain.
Mayor Fcrro: ....hr. UOLEer, of the Dolphins?
Mr. G6ry: I can clear it for You- We do. If I might, the
difference in that in tyres L of the Not tvknt that was held,
there is a problcm. That in that the ountr-act dovs, not call
fOr tot Q Lau it, at OUr prooedarc n 0,11 for. I would
suggest Kwat too thingt 0wour iyo this s.udil— ThLA is in
terms uf our "�250,00U, that it bu atiallto an t,rLs of how
they are going to spend the money, t�., they
are spending our money properly, which ubw nuL the ccb, in
the past. Secondly, that the total prograw tm Ludited to
insure, if YOU are going to get a full audit I that moneys
were not, expenditures were not transferred from his big pat
al 16 August 16, 1984
0
to a smaller pot; and therefore, you really don't get a
complete audit. In terms of the past, you can't do it; I
don't think.
Mayor Ferrn: 1, for orn- out. of fivr-, lir7rn, "oi41d Pcefpt that
as a condition. W112t hel,7 nayi,rp, ,,
go back. W;e npn pe-1-1 audit for mir f1g,11rcs, blit we- can't,
since we didn't pi)t it ro-rditlon, Rr,. an sudit for th
e?
past. ni)t T thin oj,n P-) r Fr
o� fnir, if "-Irr� F r ittl
up a million dollars a year, to Psh for n total ntidit of the
whole procedurc,
Mr. Ari-Icn:
j don't
know that they
would, ngr€ o.
to it,
because* it's
basically
a case of who
bids for the-,
highest
price to got
45 Minutes
exposure On t0lcvJ.SJ,0v-
Mayor Ferro: I don't. tjjj.rjc 1-111cv viould over n-Rren to open up
their books as to what they f,,Tct-. fron.. Prootor, i.rd Gamble-, for
example.
Mr. Arisen: Or from the television studios. I mc,�nr .
Mayor Ferro: I don't, think vio w 11 U ever get that
information.
Mr. Plum-mor; Mr, Hoyor, your hnvc rn4d ulicre yoi,, ;7tand. Let
me tcl], you I.-:11cre I stnnd, As ft.r I corcerreo, 03atever
our poli.ry J,:7 1,-o tho.sr poopl.c !ho rcocivo v-�orica from the
policy haul, be uniforrily applied
City
1i c I)c nrd
Ma Vo r Y, 1, c 1" J., n c , 1 '.11 C, e C . r 1, 11 'n, t Any ot-bcy- otaternents?
Are vc> rou to vot(l 1) (1 C W.Mt, to make a
motion ol:C vtv or the othcy`�
Mr. Car ollotr. rjot,Jon thnt. irzo accept in
prirciplc 'L,hr, vcqurt ijjcl appointed by
yo ur n (, J, f
.I. i, o vj u n
C n
[.j r 0 u g h t to us.
That 1-ti
we
Ut,i
"50,000 for
ncxt year and
$250,000
for 136 i,,T1 j i. c I
r-o
tou;3rdf: the
four pageants,
Miss UnIvcrsc- for r.,ext-,
J.
y cr I-
jL
U.S.A. for
1986, and Miss
Teer-age
Auic,,,rioo for 184
_--rd
3 '_-'j .
Mr. PlUrMi0r: What about the additions to that, Joe, number
one....
Mr. Carollo: 185 and 186 Miss Teen-age America.
Mr. Plummer: It is ray undcrNtLnding that if other agencies
did not contribute, C-411 b1d.s were off. Is that correct?
Mr. Carollo: I would it in tj-jgjt rjotion tha �t if' the
additional funds, that we under!stanld that, lre required carrot
be retained f " r c m o t', i (L r E, o v c I, n m e n� t a 1 b o d i ts or` private
enterpri.3e , th(�_n fc_Nr thiiuotion, to be brought bLek' gair to
the Comm i� sion f or rc- coi, id(-Y- Lt ion, .
M r . P I u 11, t- r 1i4s to cowrie baciltan if it is in
principlz,
Mr. Perez. LS t�, (-, c 6
Mayor Fks rrc, There is a second- There are some conditions,
as I undt:v, _--t &-nd that were concurrent with this, and we
%, -� t a request
haver" e x pr u::- our oPirion. Ore dealt with
that the Miss Free Cuba....
51 17 AUSU3t 16, 1984
41k
Mr. Carollo: That should be, Mr. Mayor, made separate, I
think from this motion.
Mr. Pere; .- I votild like to present another mentioned motion
about thr-it. r
Mayor Fc�rrn: Tp oi-,br-r _=ords. wjiit you wart to do is
separate that: snd thnn t.,clll dosl with thn issue of South
Afrion....
Mr. Cnro),I,o-. Yc-s-, t1jr. Mayor, I think it should all be made
separate.
Mayor Terre 1,7 there zany further discussion or the main
motion?
Mr. Plummer: ijr. tjiyor, I
an, going to vote in fnvror of the
Motion for tWO rC,--)SOPS�
ornr, its in privolple. An, you
know, I voted -,iFrajn:7-t it
last ycar, becauso I fclt tllpt it
was an undue, burden to n,sk
thi-s City to pick up nuoh a great
percentago of the tabI
feel this year IV.1-ii:3 h - r; o h a, r g, e d
I thick thi;7 yenr, the City
is only onc of miny vho il asked
to be a contributor.
For that ronsor I th 1. n k I
accomplinh<-A t4int I tried
to do last; year by gettipf". other
people. jtjJ-, rolv. tlic City of JIiisni, but all of South
Floritia
').n the
year:� to. eci-,,,(, '�Ah;:,,l `1107c
pcoplc Tlho J'n f,101 src bey—fiting
by pre�
roir ip z�nd Join to help
I Ar. lj
shoul�Jr-. 111,ic Plk"'O '0C d --, x 1) c C, I r of he
o t h c r
ry
Mr
ct I t6 i:.(� )I(* corivi.i ciot-�c ri.vivn cr
but
I I t
i
S1("111
vot-, but th(," pc-:i tage
that
(:
j -A i `i:� t inc, J.11 1'01'i -
(,,o the totti). th-,t. others
are
p u t t
j
in J."3 ,;bout the -ame,
so I would just like you
to
keep
trlh,"A
in i n d
Mr. Plummcr: So be it.
Mr. Carollo: It's the same shoulder.
Mayor Ferre: Any further discussion? Are we ready to vote?
Call the roll.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner
Carollo, who moved its adoption:
MOTION NO. 84-9110
A MOTION ACCEPTING IN PRINCIPLE THE
RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE CO1,041TTEE TO
I
BRING THE HISS UN'lVERISE, KISS; U.S.A.,
MISS TEEWItGE U,S.A. PAGEt-driv , S TO THE CITY
OF MI 1� HI I POR 1965 111 ND 1986 AND
AUTHORIZI.ING A ND F) I f i"EC T1 WG fl-11 E CITY
MANAGER TO IiLLOCATE LN lit-10UNT NOT TO
EXCEED "500,000) ( 250 , 000 IN 1985,
$250,000 IN 1986) 'WBJECT 1'0 1ALL)DITIONAL
FUNDING BEING OBTkINED FROM THE- CITY OF
MIAKI 1:11ELCH, IIIEITROPOLITrili I)fn COUI-i'Ty,
THE STATE 01- FLO[LIDAL I'LNI) THE PRIVATE
I V r
SECTOR LS OUTLINED BY �S OF
"I'l- E THIS DATE A WD T 0 BE
THE COKNI.4 4 . T
BROUGHT b1,CK TO THE CITY COKiKISSIOW FOR
A P PI 10 V 111, .
Upon being 6econded by Commissiorer Perez, the
motion was passed and adopted by the following vote-
31 18 August 16, 1984
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice —Mayor Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES:
ABSENT: None.
ON ROLL CALL:
WF. I'm going to vote yes in principle. Mr. Gary,,
I still want some answers to those parts of my memo that are
legal. Forget. about the parts that the City Attorney has
ruled as illcFal.. if j, do rot have the nnswers when it
comer, ti.r o to voi_,(t gain, IIII lbe voti-)LT no.
Mayor Ferro- UOWI, car! the other i:7,sucsz such as the audit
requircrnent.5., Fta Free Soui1i Africa, and the $100,000
request.
Mr. Carollo: 11, r-P I a -:v o 7- , J_ P s 1-1 c , d
of brirging up the motion
which for
somot1roc with Mr. Glasser
that. Comm5:7--liovi( „(-T-cz i,,rntcd to
hrirFup about; n Vlis3 Free
Cubs. T u 10,
P C er t i t in a
llilc
differcnt, riF
tuTha t
13 to
1)
thinl4 mij 1=
better shoit il
iz for
asking, t-h(-: 11)
1"; ol, hc 1, "o vrz, lie
would 1) (,, e o r! r I. 6
-
its"
do not h,.vc,
j.lchcliv t 11 a t is
free, 111'e dc, ji)
(? i r, t n a in, o 1411,1 that be
acceptab1c,, 7
Mr. Perez: Ye:i, bul, 1 would like to have that as a part of
the motion, Out; I think it's importart to emphasize the
concept of a Free Cuba.
Mr. Carollo: Certainly, but that the concept is still the
same; we're, just requesting a Miss Free Cuba on the basis of
Guantanamo.
Mr. Perez: It's one of the arguments I would like, but
basically what I would like to request to the orgarizers to
study the posiibilitv to have a franchise in order to give a
proper to thu CuLan, in exile copurunity. One
of the cz1-1.1n be that Guaintanamo or vlhatever. But
any how Our ntanai. c, i :�, za piart (�f the ClIbLt, r)Y0VinCC�:5- I
thirk that iiuportiv!t tlhat tht_- concef,-A.- for a free Cuba
be a � i.r_or l r,- r t of that an e. 1 door.' is have any
ire onv en I ene tt in c e p t in g that r t of t I ic n,ut ior . But
I would like that the prilt-20_41plt:. how we ire reques.-ting,
ard we are _-�uppol-ed to frn-, these People. I
thinic thi_- be one of the
Mayor Ferrt:,.. rtot u eorvditiot�; it` a request.
Mr. C a r o ! I c), '.-I'ur c k _1 4, 1 k or!l y w rc-quest.
4
Mayor rerr'Ll. YQa, L;(,Ck:,pt "11 thi5l?
Mr. Carclloit Hr,
Mr. l er z. 1,i_� the vote to that one. As
�a voted 1_i�e L tit1-iivr oull . ttiib project, I am votirg again
today, bu,1- I t4(�kjlfd 1-1. i� puz-211ve way to try to have an
arswer for the Cub&n cuwi.u!,ity that 15 very concerned about
this issue.
sl 19 August 16, 1984
Mayor Ferret Is there further discussion on this motion?
Mr. Plummer: Are YOU MsklnR sepprpte motions?
Mayor Fprre: 'V(,:7
I ? vicIrr., polng to go ore-, by one, which is
what e v f7 r ir b od v 1_'0 W'I n t. to (10 Caere. Further
discussion[ Ate e "n rrndy to vote? cnll. 1111n roll.
The fol.l.owi -, g n o. t I on - n s 3.r 4
Uroduced by Commissioner
Carollo, who novcd its Pdopt-lion;
MOTION NO. 84-0141
A MOTION REQUESTING THE PROMOTERS OF THE
MISS UNIVERSE PAGEANT TO CONSIDER
INCLUSION OF A PARTICIPANT WHICH WOULD
PERMIT PROPER REPRESEN.'TATION OF THE
CUBAN EXILE COMMUNITY 13A5E_T.) UPON THE
PREMISE THAT A PORTION OF THE COUNTRY OF
CUBA IS STILL FREE OF COMMUNIST TYRANY
(GUANTANAMO BAY)
Upon being scconocd by Corwmi�siorcr Perez, the
Motior umn pa-T7cd -nd ;idoptcd by the following vote -
AYES: Commi-:7ioncr .1oc, C;ro.Tlo
C o tri -TI J 1'i"kllcr J.. L.)awkins
Commi, i oi� c r J, L. P1 ummer , Jr•
V icc Pci-oct.rio Pcroz, Jr.
Mayor llcuri,cu A. Ferre
NOES: None
ABSENT,. None.
Mayor : Now or the South Africa.
Mr. D,��,wkins. I mnke a motion that the Commission recommend
to the paLcLrt Sponsors that any country or municipality or
what have you that is rot; acceptable to the U.N. , not be
acceptable....
Mayor Ferre: South Africa is part of the United Nations.
Mr. Dawkins: Let. me state it like, this.
I make a
motion
that the same as we
feel up here as to that
Free Cuba
should
be represerted, I
feel. that Black people
should
not be
humiliated by South
Africa. Therefore, I
move that
he be
irstructcd that
South Africa not be
permitted
to
participate.
Mayor Ff_rre: In other words, this is a request like the
other motion.
Mr. Plut,-mierz Secord the motion.
Mayor Is there further discussion?
Mr. Fluxnmer: H,r,
1-1.1ayor, the only ttjjrjp
that I would like
to
clarify thiit ;-'rc
r.'Clt bG i.r. this UPoy'!
the United Nations.
I for (A!c- '.'; U1,Q
CA that the quicker
the
U 1 Grit. 0 i
U 1-,., i t t (j I"
the
better oft.- -itd
be, Tne only thil".1-1 the Unite(I
is
doing i bt'lrta
havtn, for foreiiLn
thZA tare working
in
our ihort� tryiizg
io destroy our way of,
lift-..
Mr. Swith: But Mr. Mayor, the root ion was rot a request.
Sl 20 August 16, 1984
Mayor Ferre: Yes, it was.
Mr. Plummer: The motion, to me, Is a request. Remember?
Mr. Smith—.
Mayor Ferrc, ItSez the same SS the firlt mOtiOr. The first
motion wns P requeste this In a rrqurst..
Mr. Smith: BtA, Mr, G),ss_-r;r Tins nlro-.�dy Said it, ia rot
negotisblr,.
Mr. Plummrr: Ex c uls e -in c Par. Sm, i th , the first. MOt. JOT) thll t WO
p a 3sed g r n� ol- I_oTi -c f-
j,n pT-j.rc.jpjt7. We ill i :7 z.;rve the
right, Pf-tcr honring ItAir r(,:7, p o r vote P gn In
Mr. Cnroll.o: vjjjpt-, j,(,j to (� io, imc,, r I may, is preert a
substitut'r, i-,11mould include i.ny racist government.
M r . Da v 11. i n f� I v.,jJ-1 not, nocept that. I think that should
also be onoth(er molk'-J.op.
Mayor Ferro: 1-1 r lin v e a r o'L J. 0 P,
Mr. C,) T- 0 3 -J, 0 '. I_ c t, roc ny why, Mr. Mayor, when Mr.
Smith ... v hn t C. o mmm i s J, o n c r D a v, I c i r s has stated about the
goverpneri-I of south Africa is, very correct. They are a very
recisit f;overnriont,
liars a policy of
Mrs. Doughcrt,, Kybe any goverrment that
racial,
Mr.. C,,,r o 3 1 o : Bot, r'r c'-- Ere going to t r C a t Other racist
goverpricnt- =ny beti,cr South Afrlcn? Fo r ? i,r U,t V. c e , t h e
Soviet Un"'ol",? fln,ci t rnoro rroi-I' ir the
Sovic,'"c-1.0"n Cor-,!'�-rlslA' cub'-7
count try
Their- c Til i 1-c Only
has ro are
trying to t(131.1 thc CS t P. t e 3
are and othcr pl k-:i ( C, Y c I 'i i Y C L I , a t 1, d (I C'
)outh
Africa'-- for the policy thc-y havc, but, at the
same time, if velrc rot goinG to be Ilypocritical Zbout it,
we should condemn those governmerts that are equally as
racist as South Africa. V"'ho is killing zrd hurting more
Blacks in A f r j- ca, , the governmients of South hfrica; or the
government of Cuba and the Soviet. Union? They have tens of
thousandri- of i4armed oldierts U-11 over- Alriec-1 killing scores
of Blacks every &,4y and oppressir!g not Just orc lountry, but
scores of countrics in Africa or, %n every dLy ba5i:�_
Mayor Ferrc: 7 could s cccpt that as a third
motion, but I tl,ould abk you to it as .- substitute
motior? . 11-.1 recoEr.,J.,e you for the pure ofMakir g
that an z�
Mr. Carollo,' I Will LOCulA thi'_A, hil'. Hl\OV.
mayor Ferrt.-. LOUIOYi Uhz;" lie -fore us then is
Colum i 0 r% C r- I � ' Q, t i Q, 1 _ Z_ r �L (11, " Q -, x, .
Mr, carolio. Can, that L._,otior: b€, I;Ar. Mayor?
Mayor 1:te-rtf. 0 f
t i i e C) r L 1
t i i� t. t I L e, Go ahead
Corgi! L,
r c
v_,ot tie
p��rticipant of
futureL
-.-th ld and
r ac i �t pol c y
It W&6 0. o n a ed
by P.1 U w1L. e r I there
furthtr
on that ruotior?
Thib ib a
reque.-�t agair.
Call the roll.
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21 August 16, 1984
0
11
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner
Dawkins, who moved its adoption:
MOTION NO. 84-942
A MOTION REQUE"ITING THE PROMOTER3 OF THE
MISS UNIVFRSE PAGEANT TO CONSIDER THE
EXCLUSION FROM PARTICIPATION OF ANY
CONTESTANT FROM SOUTH AFRICA Iti THE HISS
UNIVERSF P A G, r A NT BASED UPON THE
APARTI-IFID ATIT) RACIST POLICIES OF SOUTH
AFRICA.
Upon being r1ccondcd by rommis:31orcr Plummer, the
motion was pavised and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Comm, issiorcr Joe Carollo
Comm J.::,o ionor Millcr J. Dawkins
CommiSsioner .1. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: Nore,
ABSENT: Foro,
Mr. Carollo: tinyor, I would like to make a motion that
we rcquc.-,,!. c,,,' tj)ci pageant, the same way that we requested
the rl-iol;iop of South Africa, that would include any
othcr r C.tjovernmert, such as the Soviet Union or
Comm un i
Mr. Dawkin, Second.
Mayor Ferro: Further discussion; again on a request basis.
Call the roll.
The followirg motion was introduced by Commissioner
Carollo, who moved its adoption:
1--10TIOH 110. 84-943
A MOTION REQUESTING THE PROMOTERS OF THE
MISS Ul-41VERSE PAGEANIT TO CONSIDER THE
EXCLUSION OF ANY CONTESTANT IN THE MISS
UNIVERSE PAGEANT THA T COMES FROM A
RACIST GOVERNMENT SUCH AS COMMUNIST CUBA
OR THE SOVIET UNTO11.
Upon beirg scoonded by Commissioner Dawkins, the
motion was pawed and adopted by the following vote
AYES: Commissioner Joe Car olio
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkir3
Comm i3sion(,r J. L. Plummaer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Dernetrio Perez, Jr.
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
Mayor Ferre: Are there any other further motions? I think
we need to tuake the motion that the Manager be authorized,
Monty, I wart you to hear this because I'm going to
cordition, it, that onee the j)rt:!imjt-&,ry cortrEjct is agreed
upon by -st-uff, 01&t t1le kar�a0:r be authorized to expend up
to $100,000, ire oviaed howtver, that t100,000 i3 matched up
31 22
August 16, 1984
0
to by either the private sector or another governmental
entity so that we're not alone.
Mr. Smith; Mr. tiayor, In the spirit of the request that's
being nidn, I would lik(,, for the Commission to SISO make it
p - that; -) J,, - p 0 p, 0-, J1 a requirom 'je be c-xpended unt, - You get feed
back -5.p accordance* with 14h.qt Cori M, j Ss I or er 1,11-I'mmer 3aid
corcerripg, 1-lic rvr�qiiv t thit this Comm nnior m.-.d - . This
commis:.;Ion, nhould I)(- rcsp-,eted, if -t-Alc- morcy is already
spent, then it's kind of difficult to hnvn Any Ir-'verage
whatsocvrr. Yr*stcrdny, I T U ryas on tile enl1cd to find out, ghat:
I
agenda ind I was ndvisco by the Clerk's of flee that the
Mayor's office, hndr't. advised them. 11 3,01, of people don't
know about, what's happerirp, here today. 1 think that: the
public —it, hn-;Irlt been advertisod to my knoi-Tledge. I -would
think that before n dinic of my tax dollarn are spert, that a
report be mode bpcl,, to lltl-his Cornniis:7ion on the requc'st youvve
made, or (,I:;P- II-111cre Is Po reason to make, thii rcqtjcst..
Mr. Plunift or: r.-jo pone v can be Spont Until a oontract is
brought bao)-C to this Commission.
Mayor Ferro: No, the motion I am
miking, J.L., is that the
Manager
be niithori7ed
to expord
up to �100,000 provided
however,
that: it 1.:3 cqually
matxhed
dollar for dollir from
either
r,, i - i -,-- -11--, n :7 c o 'G o r
f u n ("A n or
from othcr gOV!V_rPncPt,3l
entity
so 7r, to sc-curc
thc Hi, -r;
11
driver pagcort, contract,
up to;
ti--o oonditlon:-,
up to (-,i. hundred
sand that it must be
matchc(I
diol,lar for dollr=r,
M r . PI. tar, c i - r Prior to bringing back a contract to this
commis,,;ion.
Mayor Fvrr(-_: Ye:5,, nix, otherwiso we're not to get
this contxr-ot. J Ii-,, g 1 � going to nalt:(-, -, ncoond inotion after
that.
is
0)"t
borore ;-ST."y fort hcr mjonicn
I)c ex.ponded,
we 1) a v
to
h,-vc
full tcoourtc1 i'I.i,t\1 �r:rj
th,-.A.
whatcLvor is
owed
t),.
1)v
'L,-Ah(Hc-;,,J,
1:1,(. paid.
But
.'i1jv.-(,1f (A-;(-),d)y t
"oll'.
"'o
neck ou.t
tc,2,
r-ct
car ,,(-,Irc Yol,
t:o get the
c or. t r - o t
Mr. Plut-mer: Maurice. how then do you equatle that the
legislature doctnit evcn riect until hipril and Hay?
Mayor Ferro: J.L.t if Mr. -and I don't mear to pick out Mr.
Arison, please don't take it that way, Hir. Arison.
Mr. Plummer: No, no, he doesn't speak, for the legi5latior.
Mayor Ferre but I'm speal!ing to "r. Anson and son Mr.
'Trainor' III we're to expend tLxpaiyer,- monie;5, I want
3omebodv tor�ateh thiit. I what you are sZYing, that
to securc, thiti, wcclrc Foing to have to put out money
out quick. I IrD willing to do thit , but cxue-, body else is
going to hz.vt to L;,A(�h ub. if You c'et Metro to do it,
that's f ln-e; or if' You ez--n tact the State oi Hiail�i beiveh to
do It, thstl_,: fint. Lut it' not, thu.n you �zr(� to
have to put Out of' Your or. J;Oel et.: 1jI!,Qe You bc-litfve in
this, thee -I you hLVc to put Y(-,,Ul' L11), you know,
and if You wL.-In't tht:,� up,, 11,,;� vil-lirjo let
the Kanzq!(:r hav(-, th(A r'_1L?4ht- I IL.v(:_ full that
this to betuuth it-, puiltln-.7 up tkdr t mloyey.
Mr. Carollot tu-
Mr. Swith- Y-1.1t . kiz�_yor, 'I L Is the
spirit of' your, I IlLt � ItL-c4ily binding
and enforotable If., court be tfiter ej itAc, by the Manager
prior to the time thijt their- contract 16 brougInt back before
31 23 August 16, 1984
the Commission to vote on. I just want to know whether that
is the spirit of what you are saying.
Mayor Ferrn: It is mv inter tion that out of the $500,000
that we hnvl? in pri.nei trlc vot ed, that we 10ve the Manager
i-zerptior on
the authori'e? to (1xPN`1(-- I; P t() �'1100,0100 1) J, :7' cl
this lr;lor! 'Ind thn Orly e0ndition thsz-
is p-pi puttjng on t ►
is th , t U h,
prjvqtc finotar or son, ob od y e 1 s
dollar for doll,-lv-
Mr. Smith. goes that; mean lie can sign a corll-raot that will
bind the City?
Mayor Fern: T.Io. he cannot do that, but he. can expend
$100,000 to bind 14fisi ljriverse and Miss U.S.A.
Mr. Smith: 1:7- he 5pecifically prohibited fron, ortering into
a binding; contract?
Mayor Ferrc: lc,-, lie would be 7,pcoifically prohibited from
finalizing the contract without the final approval of the
Commission. lie would, however, be able to spend up to
$100,000 before we arrive at that point at his sole
discretion.
Mr. Pluriimcr: lo, IiAit
in
"o *n
Mayor nrr,7: IT k j�
i�;croi,, J, :7, -' r If we want to play major
o, i, i
1) pl , Nr m,-aJor lca-iic. you cannot.
a pp i - C F
n A�
I C 0 Or St
L o uL il. 1'' I I I
p v (J
M 10 h,
V
i %
IT
out o-51
to 11c )J!,
a c rc.l. 1 V J
V 0 1 11.,
YOU,
1, al 1,
0 Cj JI
'or�
u (?:
B i t i c P
E, 0 c, 1) ; I, c f u P to
$100,000 Z- t,, tAlc
d i 0 1
alone; it's up to him.
1, Ill 7.bidc, by u, t, ho dccli(J(Is if
he decides that it's
not won°GIe it lia then he'll vc,_ . . The
only other condition.
is that Mr. Arisen, Hr. Trainer, and
the private sector match
it or find somebody else to match
it. If they can do that, that's O.K. with me. If he can go
over to Illiami Beach
and get them to join the ante and play
major league games,
then that's all right; power to them!
Otherwise, it comes out of their pocket.. I so move.
Mr. Trainer: Several iteribers of the Commission volunteered
me to chair thi:5 thing. I don't wind. Last year I put up
$50,000, Mr. Arison put up $50,000. but I don't want this
to be a contingent- thing that every year I have to put up
$50,000, or t,,elre not goiig to play ball.
LAUGHTE11.
Mayor F(,rr(-.: I!jonty, m not
you get it frow sonebody else. I'
saying you ll&vt to -et it, out of your pocket. I'm saying
you get -_oifcbody else to do it.
Mr. Traircr: I lia a volunteer. I I m the Corwai5sion's
volunteer'.
Mr. CaroIlct V-.Ie I -lave to take inflation into Qcy!_,idti-&tior.
�-ard 0ier! tht�y aid it.
Mr. Trai,tr- I didn't even stzir!d forw
Mayor Frr Mr. `Trainer-, in ethat'sthatthe rear, you have to deal
ec�.
with if taxi-- t.J-1j_rg pauses. You deal with him.
51 24 August 16, 1984
Mr. Carollo: Monty, it's like I told you before, you know
what one minute in international television costs Proctor
and Gamble? $450,0001 It's the best deal you got in your
whole lifel
Mr. Smith, And ter getting reservations in Paris.
Mr. Cnrolloz You orly got It for $50,000.
Mr. Trniner; Sometimes you can't. afford a good deal.
Mr. Plurn-mer: NoTT I !-,rotj why the soup and sandwish for $4.00
went to $5.00.
Mayor Forre: Mr. Vice Mayor, it's 5:30 and I made a motion.
I would nsk that yoo a2k for a second
Mr. Carollo: Second.
Mr. Trnirnr: 1-41r. }Mayor, one thing, the Greater Miami Host
Committee v!ould be the committee signing the contract with
Paramount; Pictures.
Mayor Ferro: That is correct, sir. The Manager is the man
you have to dcal i-Tith if this passes.
Mr. P I t, 7� f m nt - :
1'r, 11,7=yorr
I havc
lt-o 1-11. 1 f,
on It. h o record ,
becausc T
h-vc
vol-,c h C
mot,5
J- th.ink
it is
unf a ir I: C,
P I.J,, i C,
i-,rithout a
final ccl!-A-
rrcf
h,' 6
I just
don't,
i v
r;,tv,
c, (tF-
IC o �4 1 f r
it t:,o lav
out
I 1! 1 11V
o
Mayor Ferre: Let me put it, yot, vay, J.L,, 11 re"Spect
your judgewc.nt. I think yol.) s,J oouraIe ei.AJQ.(-1d to your
vote.
Mr. Plummer: I tried every v,.ny in the iiorld to vot.(,for it.
Mayor Ferre: I have ccn Howard Gary rrcoti,�Alc tlrio cable
television contract. I have seen him regot-Al.atic.; Bayside. I
don't have any qualras of letting him make that decision. He
has the authority and does deal with a lot more than
$100t000.
Mr. Carollo: Mr. Kayor, I call the question.
Mr. Perez: Do we have any other discussion? Call the roll.
The following uiotion was, introduced by Mayor
Ferre, who iraoved it%: adoption:
MOTION NO. 6111-'4114
A MOTION AUTHOUZU!G THE CITY MANAGER TO
EXPEND AN J"HOUNT NOT TO EXACEED $100,000
IN CONNIECTIOU I)IT11 EF11*03:1T,`,' TO OBTAIN THE
U. S. h. /MiSS TEEN
U.SO.A. F(Ai '111L 196�,-bf-t TO BE
BROUGHT' '140 THE ClTY CIF 11,1AUjill P-S ,,�,0014 L—Q,
THIS tl-�,OUK'f 4-1`1 Hl!-ACHL-D BY L T i 1, L.li 1, 11 E
P R I V ATL. C'If ()'E 04i U11 � K It CU ��): 11' 11 M, E N T
SECTU '1'0 EN'.PIA TIDI- IEQ---T 0 [,'i 1111 '! V1' T 0
114
PROCEED IhI1,1111 L X,
C 0 N, 1%, L C, 1011-11 1111TH TH A 0 1" L L t I D
Upon being beoonded by CowLaib4iloner Carollo, the motion
was passed and adopted by the following votes
al 25 August 160 1984
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Vice -Mayor Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: Com-mis:7ioncr .1. L. Plummer, Jr.
Conimi.,s--Iorier Miller .7. Dawkins
ABSENT: Hone
ON ROLL CALT—
Rr —.P I i Tm r) c r . I tried every way possible. I have to vote no
without n eontract in hand,
NOTE: THIS TIOT10N WAS MODIFIED BY M-84-952, SEE LATER SAME
MEETING.
2. GRAHT TUTO HONI'TUPS COMPS USA710H TO AUR DAREA,
1 4
AWITUSTRATIVE AIVE TO COHIEUSSTOFF-PI JU- CAROU.0.
Mr. Caroi-lo: Mr. mayor, before t-To T,o ono hc Pr-t, itxm, I
I - would liko to bring :-�omot,bing i)p ycr� !)rJ,nf1,k f� most of
you kroll 1)y not.- oonc Of Jni:-�'-rrtivr Aida
Barea, ir'. q1,oi.1,,,,- S h 1;,i:7 rt,() lhr�-z In c. r n
r
r
in a 1),
used up
p; ty
thn I, V
is: ors' j4
0 111 :1 1,0:V P
o f f i 'J 1)
the 1;1—i, i':%, J ol, r, t
j be
b r J. n,r J-n cht.
- Ofj'� 1:." �-.j 1�
p vr, I i, t. c
could n IL, 1) c i r r;
Bare: c 1; to fn, y o f f ' J- c h 1) r E.I of 0�2 vh"k; 1-c fc1t, Was
very fair va-- to allolt", her, *"--,.,vro t�-onthr, comp timc; Ghat: is
based on an average of five to six hours per t-;cck, which she
has put much more than that. fly motion, Mr. Mayor, is in
the form of a revolution that this Commission approve two
months compensatory time for Aida Barea beginning now.
Mayor Ferre: Is there a second?
Mr. Plumtmer: I second .
Mr. Perez: S3 e c o n d .
Mayor Ferre: Further discussion? Call the roll.
Mr. Gary: Mir. K,aqor,
under discussion, I would
suggest that
a condition to
that
motion be made. That
is that the
appropriatcresi
and
'L he legality of -.Ueh a
decision be
reviewed . Tljzt
dc-cicion
riEO,Itfully under
the City
Manager ur:der t"He
Char ter,
Mayor Ferre. 1 tLIt L'-IuL,-Y"� 1-, L . ht: CL,,;�, 1r, 11,-�narer,
becauLe you r (7 U 1'
t h.L. t i t I
b I
e8' al
Obviou,,Iy,
the
rc L- lf�u,
I!, a
member of
the: I)Int.,er YLU'Y
Key
Bar laui dtLI-ekf
01Lt I il�v� tull-- 1uit
th�t
this
C onn, n i J10to,
is 1) r t: 0- 1 udi e d,
f r oli: 1 1 - " i r " E i 11 1 t C, a 1
41ets.
Therefore,
any tuotion, any
re;tiolutiot. that is w6de
here
must,
of course
be legal. If
it is riot legal, ther.,
it, its not
valid.
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26 August
16,
1984
77
Mr. Carollo: if I may ask the City Attorney, because
this
is not a case where someone has a lot of time built.
This
is a ease whop one of my staff members Is very 111.
:rid she
has used tap all. her vir-,;tion ;rd hnr slek tlrne—
In the
A 1, 1. 4.. A, Ilnr- m -:�
past, n1,1 1)nv- lUji -,� -- ,
of other
past
r 11:7, t om
that if -s 10 n n T% ;,•i da (,o mmi s i-jj,on,
to d-o d e
J what comp tirnr- to P-11ow to I
n C- n M
Ais strqiF t
talkirg b o u L wr oc m on t jit that, It,
woi,;1d be
proper to hr .i nF it: up to n
Is there
arything Madam City Att-orrey, t, il wrong b
n
us voting
upon thi-7
Mrs. Doughcrtly: Commissioner Carollo, I don't
know the
answer to that at this time. I'd have review
whatever
s the
policies have been implemented in the past,
personnel
rules.
Mayor Fore: Would you put it in writing
for the
Commi-stoner to so advise him. In the meantime
,
is there
further discussion? Call the roll.
Mr. Plummer: yell, assuming it is legal, we are approving.
-1). if
Fore: of col.)i -,z.,zLim c, asirg,g It i,:7 Te
it is not
legal, you opn't under lav 1-rj.7 -t(, illcf,,,71 ;0 S.
Mrs. Doug .licrty, I will v*ork vith the City F• anager. if it
is legal, welll proceed that v7ay.
Mayor Ferre: If it's riot legal, then you tell us how to
make it legal, and as Plummer says, we'll proceed the legal
way.
Mr. Plummer: That's right.
Mayor Ferre: Further discussion? Call the roll.
The follovirr- vaotion t-,,as introduced by commissioner
Carollo, who movc-d it- ,ado Lots ors :
KOTION NO. 64-945
A MOTION GOING Olt' RECORD THAT THE CITY
COMMISSION APPROVES THE GRANTING OF TWO
MONTHS COMPENSATORY TIME 73 ;, 1 1-V A P -
BARER, ADMI14ISTRATIVE AIDE TO
COMMISSIONER JOL CAROLLO IN CONNECTION
WITH H E R C U R R E N, T ILLNr-SS, SUCH
11,,r' TO BEGII-i! THIS DIATE AND
COMPENSATORY T 'E
SUBJECT TO THE REVIEUT OF THE LEGL.LITY OF
THIS ACTION 5-Y THE CITY ATTORNEY AND THE
CITY HANAGEH.
Upon being Lecovdcd by Plummer, the
motion was passed and L&jpted by the following vote -
AYES: Comali��ioncr joc, Carollo
Comm i�:5 ion� cr Killer J. Dawkins
Commi!j5jor.,c.-.r J. L. Plummer, Jr.
vice-iiayot Dei-:ictrio Perez, Jr.
Mayor Haurice A. Ferre
NOES: Nore,
ABSENT: None.
$1 27 August 16, 1984
U
3. DISCUSSION ITEM: HOlj3TPG AMP REDEVELOPMENT PONT) 13SUE.
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Mayor Fcrrc. Va; rol-;
to
ge�t to 11-.hr. bon.0 T-sur_,,
I
apologj_7.,,7 for rnpking yovi vnit
For,
nr hotir rndj. n hnlf.
We
are novr on t1i-n o, ,
jj
pro :�ctc?1
and redevn1opmer, ,or(j J-:31jeWe.
tr
Jhovsi,rg
hivc' r-v;7rPmrrbrrs
of
the committr�e. I'll, rneogrni7e
you
j
in a mcmc�nt. MiJl-r.
We
have s co-olisirperson her( nro
n
repre�ncrtni- , ie, 'vof one
of
the co-'oha Irper sons, In Mr, Kinr
h('1rc? I dop't sce I'Ung
around. I'm going to recogri-,n
him
In .9 rnornnPI-1, Bnfore
we
do that, Co-aimJ,ssiorer Dpi-!kirs,
Mr. Dai,;kiy1S: Mr. Mayor, I'd likc to nal,ln n strill-'ermc-it. Bond
issues nro arothor near; of tar xatior, sinor_ thr bonds roast
be retired vith rid v,-jjor(_-m, hord ir:1161 are
proposed, tho totnl corwimvpity should be c1c;;r1y Irforimcd of
what is proposed '11:,o be done: vyith tho re.-oltAng roney from
the sale of thc past bord isucs T-Pith input, of c, i Liz-onis at
public The park, and rcercation bond is,ued, the
Over town /P,7r1: u c 1, I)ond i r, j 1 c:7, the V; n P n r proposed
n
millacc ipvrrfn7c r n P d. t h n tlap, gcr do - j r c to r P I so the
g a r ting c 1, m c 7,~ 11 1 r for
The pre cr r Crvcro t�) 1.7 c - lac rid` so
t h -a t rz 1, 3. J, T1 V r I r,
r v
M
110 t 1, o 'T
sha Iv . C., C o n cj:�
Stud J C. 1)
the
Now- Ed i ,;., e 6
t 11 i r)
3 t he 1110nd
Money? .":
the
need,;
about. i.1 iJ 'k 11c t� 0 e
I () , ("? C) 01 10 (i(%0,O(W for
put in I h ct
the 'Hyr voc d r r 10 n r
J 0 (0 0 1— F 3 000 for
then t�! or c r- F c I r c -I L r d I b u, WL the
$10,000,000 for 'Ll-ic; atincr 12 P 11 C 1I c n i 1_1 I 's all
over, t1*1C tot,7;1 CjtjZ(rj�rj" of
111 Z-, ri'l i vill pay for thc',c bonds.
I take exception to a quota or whatever it in the Miami
Herald which says, and I read frora the paper: "It was
urcle,r late Viledresday just the �40,000,000 would be split
to salvage Latin support Without Offending Black leaders;
but if Alejandro suggestion. is acceptable to Dawkins and
Gary, Ferre ;aid he support;, it.t, I are tired of the
newspaper or the Ktayor or whomever it is preaching hatred
and disruption Black people and Cubans. VZhen you read this
article, it tvould aPPQar to YOU that the Only ones objecting
to the Latins getting money is Howard G�;ry and 1-Uller
Dawkins. I resent that. Ever since I've been here for the
two and a half years jlvL:sat here, I have voted for things
that bent-fited the total City of Miami and take exception to
this. I want to Go or, record as letting it be krown that I
don't appreciate it.
Mayor 11, E:r, f, (.4 . C o rt� w i s s i o n e r Dawkins, if
in any way you
interpr(tted on uy
part to be offensive, I
apologize to you.
It cer'tip iv�IY Vas
not wy irtentior to hurt
your feelings,
Howarth Gary fc c 1,
1 r es r ayy b od y ft e. I i n E:s
(I b t trying
to do the bt-It I
ci'! to brir.'E as V_Uell
Lti I car.,
aMOrg&t U110
ILLVt VQO-y d1Vt_r-_-t -.LdtaL"
O.01L't and
Should be oont .
you t i 4�� ,�t t Lot Lt t:
because
unfortunately, arid
I :�ay thlz� ad-vj-_Qdjy, tilt law of
Florida proh i b j is
you to partic4patz jj.-
L 4
t cot2versations
that I've had with
w4ry ptzop'le that 1jave
beer. Calling me,
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28
August 16, 1984
because I would have much rather just pick up the phone and
shared these conversations with evr-,rybody, biit unfortunately
that has not bren ponnibl�, Mr. Alcjpmdrl-a who is a
respected mcm1-,nr of this con; rjj;Tj j, fV , "-))0 )j,-:7, 1OC(M f 0 ' it. h r e e-,
times in A rnw Lhf� ellnirmp-1 of t-he Arehhishop'n Charity Uiind
driver, k!ho h--s hnnn p-,nnj,dr!P1-- of tln- Josc Mnrti. Y-H.C.A..
and nnryre rl,T-ny ot.lic— eivic s (- t, J v i t, i n f 7. If o r t.1Ie 1 -1 (-, I f me c, of all
people i.r Miha- hid name vrry nt.rong feeliy
about
this I rc:qpeet 1) 1. n, , and 1. respect Mr. Eloy Gorzal(-7 who is
here, 14110 ii the pre:7idnrl'. of CAHACOL, Luis !_,-iorcdo, who is
a member of the comn, iti-Ice , rjarl,ri Elena Duran Prio, T4.110 in a
member of the commit -tee, jeSjxs pornjuyl, srd others t4ho have
expressed concern r-ind i-,ithout nny furt-hcr ado, I would ask
the co-ohairperson of this committce to nddrnss the
comminsior on the insues that lie Sees.
Mr. Stuart Morkin: Mr. Mayor, mcrnbcr,s of the Commi:7rior, my
name is Sti,;nrt Hcrkir. 11n, an 'acting co --chairperson. I
agree with what Mr. Dawkin_- naid about that portion -about
the rc(-d:7 of the commurity. Tho committoset, up — it's
a very 'viroad based coi;lmittce from all segments of the
community. The comliji.ttec, sinco its ipeeption liar, been very
mindful of the needs of the crtirc coi-urity. As we
urderstood it n't, the beginning, three main D-rcaz, that were
to be add"ressed.- one i,,?an the necd:7 of the community. The
other, t1le :71c-,00nd et thc balarcc that, h;16 to bo creatcd in
order to pn:7. �, n J)o�d issue, 1) c o a I j s c 51 f w c_ d o n I Ir 111ve a
balance, nonc of t.tte pcods of t.lhc cornmunity -'re f-,oilng, to be
s e r v f I I ic v n t, o 1) C ry r, 'd -t. ;�11 Ilia bord
v o f d I h, rl'_c to be
issuc.
raisc(')
,-I, V 0
$8010001 (IM"
the nc(('"'
We wC.1"r 0 T -A C
rulc:, of Uiolt 'I, '1.h� at
the v 5 U 0
$20,00()},000 V �j I o "'o 0 v I, (,j d
$109ovy')OO 1:d, f,c; 1 c 'froj:V tc! t I M e
y t-, n I e,� to the
East, J11 1:l('
c om ro it C 'n C_ r,7 I—! 't"JI "'i 't-1. -if you
probably pol-1-co' c N, cr y anEI c ri c. rJ) c r I tliirk th,��,rr, zs. r C 35,
I'm not, urc, on thc coruflit'Gec, J.f you j,.-.ic,,l1,c_d cvcry single
member of the coitm�ittec you'd probably get, a dirferent
figure that, they viould want. But gererally in order to
satisfy these three criteria, these $20,000,000 and
$10,000,000 figure was acceptable to them.
In the Commission meeting in july, 1 trlirik it was the
18th or the 19th, I'm not sure, the total dollar amount was
raised to `-40,000,000. $20,000,000 going to, as I
understand it, to Overtown; $10,000,000 going to Liberty
City; and 4*10,000,000 going to Little Havara. At this
point, I can only speak, personally, because since that time,
we have rot had a comnittee mecting of 1.1-he whole. There was
a meetin.g that was called very hurriedly, but it did not
represent the cntire coy.waittee, At that meeting, we were
mindful of Ue top dollar amount. Goinr1 _ from, 6,I'Ll
30,000,000 to
$40,000,000, anything above enerally Was
considered rld correct we if IIL-, wronL, un�aceeptuble as
being able to be pL;sed. The diouluised a new
allocatior: tfiLt uou2d bc LIlocating $2�),000,000 to Ovel town
and LibcrLy City and 41!:j,000,000 to Little, 1-1 i1i v L Y. a if
$45,000,000 i_- Loing to Inc al-d again I don't,
know OIL- t 0 UILL, b U t if. it i g,ni r.L t) be
acceptab1c, LVA ';Vair: 1 Can-! o�' `1N1 z,-Jt!Lk W'd r.Ot
for the: boi!d, to Ovt:rtown and
Liberty City L-nd, 'SLV51,000,000 to Little Havana as perhaps
being acceptable to the entire co—n-l-aunity or the entire bond
committee. That 1b where we are at this point,
'51 29 August 16, 1984
A
Mayor Ferre., Thank you very much, Mr. Merkin. I' want to
say that all of us Are very grateful for all the wonderful
work that you do an ehPirperson as chnirpernor of the
neighborhood for yoiir rzt-vipina tr nr-d belping
us with thin. VT- tbsrk vo". T knout 41-AinU. Coopnr. who
you pre, I" orn vl("111-Jon nt t-his tivic. Mr.
AleJsndrr.
Mr. Armnndo Iln 1"oony to 1,,xv t.0 nerve - this
oommuritiv, JJAfc T hnv^ doing 'j('1r no rinlpny yf7p-13Maybe
Mr. T)P,,,,kJ.r:7 nn 1 1'. 6 -mr, bu V, T vns thc chair r or of
Rev. Gib. -,on j,n tvo oppo:^J-ng r) Cubnn, I've been
working i4ith nnyonr, I feel Is thr be:7,t. qnd *,),.rj, doing
30* 1 fecl. likc tae don't: vinniG th(� 1,P'Lirs, to tikc spything
from ip y o t h c r e o i-n m i i r., I It y . Vint monns our agreen, ent
ye:3teT-d,=,y ",I s to F-, i V 11) (c r t y City t 1) C' S ;-) ni 0- t 1) J, n [7, you
approv0d P C-1 V, d 1-1 y S Pgo t10,000,000, 1;200001000 for
1�)r000,000 for Little Hav,�T)n sts a
Overtown/Park 111r-�3t ;,rd �"",
whole. The thing, is I, ho t, 110 r7,* of the vo�*-�r-- on, thi:;
community nro Latina. Ile i-,,nrt, "C.hc borej issue to bc-., in the
ballot, but to b(,- pa ,.:red In order to raise morc jobs for
everybody to work lint-d. For tin It i.� very difficult bccausc
always the Hirparic community has voted EigEni,n.rt bond:. We
are Fain g to try any vny pos:31blc for this opporturity to
get thy: votc-1 to pi:7r; 11-1hc bondT I i a t, i -? so n, c t I i I r g, ghat I
feel is the bc,7-t for everyone of un. Th,�rk you very much.
M r . Da, in f1r. Alcjnnd1rc, may I zay .-Pomething, please,
sir?
Mr. Alejandre: Yes, sir.
Mr. Dawkins: I know you well. I hope you know me.
Mr. Alejandre:
M"
I know you very
well.
Mr. Dawkins:
Wh a r you came
over there
and you and I
discussed this,
just because I
didn't agrec
with you, sir,
that doesn't mean
I don't know
you. in, that
right? We can
discus's things
and dJj_,,�z7,Crcc and
still he fricnds. Right?
Mr. Alejandro: Ycs, I think so. You can, have, a different
opinion on vinything and I have another opinion, and still
friends.
Mayor Ferro: Thark you very much. Mrs. Range.
Mrs. Athalie Range: Mr. Mayor, Commuiss:,Jon-ers, my name is
Athalie Range. I reside at 5727 N.W. 17th fivenue in the
City Of Miami. I am here because I am quite distressed
regardin- the proposcd -,haring of' these bonds and the manner
in which thi :,y are identified. First of all, I feel that the
word Cater t .e:t: hould be left out, ueez;.use this 2-10,000,000
that are Icing Llloci.>tcd for overtown/Parit Ulcst will, in my
opirior:, not the true 0v(-,rtow--n aW Black people know
it. itl,-i L'olnE. to lue i,-o!-Ac-s th ' -;,L, will tic-uc�ed Pa-Ir West,
whiob i.-� rt,�z�!Iy ofov(.�rtoun. Tf'it, -JIoeLted for
Liberty City, I llot I've lit"Y'd figures,
but I will, r-h4,Luvtr thi-ti Cof,-cp-uiss-ion I think
the uornir,[�, Paj.;tr iLit"Alt ilLvu fiLurc U-11- "i,000,000,
N o u 'L 11
it 1 41,1 1 th�t i:� it"'o be
$10,000,000 for tht LibC,r-tv City bc-lieve rie
-4 -0 when I �,Ia�, I Uo znv- Lrouip f
or ccZiji,.-1)i.:t1- from
recei v I rL fo i - 0" taml�V tv- Uh(71t tt, f 1 Liu %'L f) o 11 t 0 v to y C) U that
Liberty C1 t y i G-f' rity ia the
most dt�,r
k bt- k-' I I i t it- Un L G kl:i r ek, �2'1 Or a
grit num"utnt- ot tht, fur-,�a t v
are
most greatly n t v 6 to X, 1. L t., tart y L r y J, I t f0 have
Liberty City d t t I , t: b o t t o w, of t h t: t u t v. i"i. putt:, f kn e'i is P-1 0 S t
unfair. I do sincerely truvt that thiw ar:d this
sl 30 August 16, 1984
1b
E
committee is going to be able to come to far fairer terms
than we have row. Yoti know and T krow that Overtown will
never be thn, Overit-lowT) we, orc47! kn,!w. Any of ws who Pretend
to be pot i. i icilly ;7astijtei know thn Ov;-.rtown ,;- u-, know It
today Is mor- Pnd mnr-- rnpi(lly r; Pirt of dovjrtown.
So tile !tf-,0.000.00f) of w1lich Von] Pirk
West In prob;�ml y Purl, Vfr7,11 , bi;t, T. or) P I.- (�-r d i1h A i, 1, 1 s not; for
OvertowTho-r! P - rn -nin I-Ah n V. IN nc o- v oilt of
OvertowT, Cho: p-, o 1-� r s i I n V I e e- in r)11
present day vllive 1-7111. nrtvcr be In n P0ni*(-J(,zn to F i, v
property oitmcr, w-ho rzE711jr-p-, or hnvf� hall to 1.1. n t the
present r;i 4C. e s . Thc n nr)T,?er 5,T) "hich 't- ' h c p r c, r7, r ;,� rn :7 r t�- :�z 0 V, up
will never allow thn�rnn
;(, people to eoend prirtjoipite
simply boc'-113ne, they W1,13, not-, hnVC t-hr- doll-Pri. The property
values po up Immediately ns the old, clilapidnted buildirgi
are sold and the property so"..d thereon for Penricn. The
moment those buildingn arc rniscd, that, property up in
value to exceed Pry- moric.7 that; J31poks might receive for the
sale of the property. Con:7,equcntly, I 5,-jy that tic be far
better of, if we bit the M33.3-et. -,-nd sirnply told the people
the truths If somcbody, sir.-iply come out and nRy to the
Blacks in t-lint. community- that we're offerirg you �- few
dollars for your propertv. Go north or youth or wherever
you will, b1A lei" t-111cm know that they arc rot honestly F ;oing
to be commc back 3r)d participate In Over"I"ot-rn. I
think it in vnf;7ir tb,�t- tic vovld arFa 'I'Aicm to b(,I,icv(-- this.
This r, nrohlf7n, vT 5 t 1) I'A j, r Mn A 1,0() ),Pdi(-,7 'Md F 3)'-1cT,1Cr.
This J.� proll).l.cro, 1 1, 1 C I I T - o -1 d 3 3 o G> t• n t " I I a t
'c. )1,7�vc
thcr(-- I t•I) !-
P I y
C I ro 11 TN 0 o (�%�C- ;-rC
allo(-
5 0 111). C (1 J,)
land i, ')O t j,
We knol,,, 1v 1 1 ;-1-(: 1-,0t
comir7n h:-1- 1,` N j J I:)), y
wart :1. o J r
in whiol', 1,1%,� v j 3 y IJ J 1 6
Mayor F, r.; 1� r y C', 11 c" r y o t I r J n t (:'r C- j t, We
all re.",,Pce'. you klOie only vour -,-.,vvy in Politics,
but for your o cf r,, m o CV` L, C d f 0 F- y'W.j r I- n t C r c .1 t i. n the
Comm tin i t Y. I 1-:row youre here bccauzc you feel very
strongly on thi5. 11 like you, I think that the great thing
about the New Testament is that things are in parables. Let
me give you two little stories that perhaps night describe
best. You krow, what Alejardre was -gaying is like the story
of the doctor who wan experimenting of finding a row way to
do open heart surgery. After the surgery was finished, the
doctor came out five hours an.d was exhausted. The newspaper
reporters were there waiting to see. They said, "Doctor,
how did the operation go?" lie said, "It was a tremendous
success. Ue made i-�'iajor 1-.>rogre5s. Kledical 1115.story was
written. Ve did thing-s that have never been clone, before."
And he walled awiy, The reporter:; were writingQn t little
fellow eanit.- up and said, I'llowl ,i the patient?" Hc- szid, "Oh,
well, unfortur!Lt(:ly the pzAler-t ditd."
Thatl-n one :story. Tlitj -�coord motory I wLnt(--d to tell you
is a wond(;rful story tf.zt title: country peopie ins Puerto Rico
tell. You know, in Fuerto Eica they tc-It, lLo.,d cy-, - bs, like the
ores that wc- sent.arou!.'d tiler e tc, Purto Viicns love
lard crib r. *1'y V 'L ZI 12 11 ef�Lrt,it
a barrel. ICIICA! thty f'tztjd thi:IQ WLtt:r L'Y'd C()rf-I to C-ure them
so they dot!lt hLvc:, z:)2y 1)4id thin: . So thy fced than: corn
for two or tlirct UlAil thkzy rt Corn I'vdi Lt.d 1r 1_ t h e y
eat them. V1 e I I I i" "'Ut'rZ.0 Iii0c), Olt �Aory Z� V� i�� that
you don't tvcr h6vt tC) UOVtr L b,:0-T-el full Cij' lli--rd urabs .
The rea:ui'i !6 bec4u--t ont-- land criab "All r.,t:vtr Jvt izr!uther
lard crab get out, the Moluert he btartb Climbing out, he
crabs him by the claw and pulls him dowri. So you never have
31 31 August 16, 1984
to put a top in a barrel of land crabs. The moral of both
of these stories is, I understand that Wynwood, as
Commissioner Dawkins mentioned in till statement, and
AllapattPh. for example If you go throogh portions of
Wynwood, it Is every bit Ps hnd no ovarto-n. Liberty city,
and Eirl. LUtle finvann, Thorc ;171- sire' rtn i,,,'
that arc, rzlipmeful. T "VdCrXtnnd thph LIVOT-ty City ncedsl
Otis Pitts and 1 hnvn gone ovnr this tine ;UV1 time ngaln.
You kno", 1-IC'rn Pot, going 1-,o be nblf, to nolvf, nlj problrms
Of All the pcople and he 01 things to All people all times.
There must be n boginning. That doesn't mean therr, in an
end, but thcrc in A beginning. All "o Pro trying to do in,
as it Is, I don't know If we are going to pass Any of thing
but we do need to expend these Monica to help these areas.
It's not perfect, and it's not frankly My prcforcrcc. I
would have preferred to have done it another way, But I'm
afraid if we prolong this, all we're doing to just making it
for sure not pa3s. I don't want to gct, into formulas and
quotas and who did t-?hat- to whom T and V-rho got, because I
think Mr. Gary very rightfully pointed out to me that Black
people, as well as White people, but DInck people voted for
the sewage bond issue for the drainage; .030,000,000 thAt is
going to be almost all expendcd in the Latin community and
voted for it. SOT you know, we vote or, things based on
need. We're not going to meet nil the needs, but ocrtainly
we arc trying to Meet come of the recd:7,. Cornmisnioner
Plummer, vind I =211 rightfully so, rzold that unlosi we
includcO Liberty City, in his opiplonp tile 51:101; Community
would not votc for it. Vr hnd to mnkr r rip Erb.`. pdpoment, I
want to Q11 you irrokly, A mr& r vcry prumrtip jud;cmcnt
beesore Kthopt hs; voicT 17 =16n'h hvyr 06 thrcr v(tes.
30, T 656WO hwvc vvy oholec. ) 3 ) 5 nr 1 o ro 4 Q the
HanaEcr t Qhi 01MI chi 1 N( 100n . ) 1;
)V ppy T 11
it,but ',k �!co)(ry w61.1,kK Q
with it. Ni: vu djOrli is lhrt( voic: r4h iKi . Vy I
have 1.0 10 0 VC01K, I'm UYAPF Us V )QC i1al. Front
doctor, hut 1 NVO V;no to IWV( a 10C pruirpy. V UK I'm
trying to don! vii, jr r r(a)jty of 10, J Vrot Chi Koo) "JU1
the rc&5Ly of it" LHAWc UN hir rarocintor iJwit are
here viorricd Lbout the "" that vl!'"c "Oil KKK W Elit a
sufficicnt of in Lhe Hisp2nic community to have it pass in
November. So, in hope n of rcrohinCv I for one, would rather
have t40,OOO,OOO, rather thnn forty-fivc-. I vould rather
have it redistributed; but that may not bc practical. So if
that is your recommendation, I for one, accept it and I will
vote for it.
Mr. Dawkins: Krs. Range.
Mrs. Range: ter`. Mayor, I think we all take rote that
historically Blacks have voted for referendums and for bond
issues. lie have gotten less out of anything that we have
voted for than anybody else. Metrorail being a point in
fact right now. We've alwaYs favored the bond issues
knowing that our taxes are Coing to hz�,ve to I)L:y therm. V1 y
only other issue here in that we not allow this issue to go
out from thcae cQmber6 reprenenting, a-, Overtown,
becau8e Overtown to Black PeOPle bi , Lply weans the areas
north of 5ti, Street (jut to Lpproximately 29th Street, 7th
Avenue ovtr to 15t Avcnue. Every one of us here knows that
those art;dn vill not share it Your 120,000,000, 1 take,
issue with thu fact that the word Overtown iL there, because
that appear, to be a Ullney. 11L going to give it over to
others that uunt to tpeak, but thwt,6 Ly fee1irg.
Mr.
Dawki"n:
Ent.
that
nowwore
0to
voicing
the Late
told
Mr. Gary
4nd
are
there now
are
"Q, I would like to in I'lu thankful
blLek has cone before this Commission
Vokocrn5 Kbout over town LA I have. I've
this QmmisbiOn that the individuals who
going to lose ownership of the land that
al 32 August 16, 1984
they have. They will never recapture it. As you have just
said, those Individuals who are going to be displaced have
no plsoe to go but Liberty City,
Mrs. Range: Thpt in right, Thpok you very much. The only
reason thoor par moons n7p not he 1,0 hpvc you kno;j 1�7
because nvon though they have 201RO vinJern Qwy have long
since lost nighL on the s"nr brep"no of promi7no.
Mr. Gary: TV- Mnyor, if I might rospord in trvmn of Input
in this decision making process with regard to Ovartown/Park
West. I'd like to first any this Ovcrtown/Pork Heat plan
started before I bropme Mnnpgcr. it was something that was
pushed by DID.V, something that WAS pushed by
Over to wn/Down town Associations, and it, war, somrthing , that
was pushed gcncrally by this whole coIiimunity when it was
Park West. This City Commission decided to expand and
include Ovcrtown because Overtown had been left out of any
kind of ber_efiti and had been reneged or, a promise, that
existed in 1962 when Urban RoncHpl came Into cxintencc. I'd
like to 05o say that onoc when you expanded it r
Commissioner Plummer opme up vith the idea that in order to
make it work and not: give falso hopes, you had to add some
more money to it And this City Commission voted an addition
of $10,nnQf000. Piscd on that defeat of that $10,000r000,
Mr. flnyor, YO-11 biek and :7,-J-d that Overtol-,rr- itrns too
iMPOKOnt FN that We nccdcd to rdd additionQ onount for
the Incro fret that me hPO romo vnorrtpin ronics Nyolvcd as
well ra the API-nct, of thc bill . I vndcrr0nd the
concernr of Err. Qnpr rn6 1 rrrpcel thosr 00110crTly ror 0110
is totally 001 VC& . PON ) lVVIC haln i1no PC 1.06 04C an
approch ir oppo�-6 i o r § v 514 VY hut. Mohr`
ohr 313 nto
bencNrt lh;� too , E;pj 0 jn6 vywc- j(;Ku: v njq 1,0q,j pn to
Insurc Yhri F kp co vc P, f � v , ) 1 h3wh Kh, A 1 : V nVic, ptep
of thrt tTr ion nvvi;:ion vj pritjuL pvy some
conditiont (z Nn, the (wn,0o0,0uo vvLo lic rynEd(d, I 'I'll
not to nor( hrt, upru "r ry c ov b( u; ove An vni. rot, here
at that writinp. PUL VPCKf5rV)!Y UC PVC VO4AF nboo t that;
$20,000,000 FoArE in Michly to the OvortovE pbrVion, That,
Is went of the Mcks, & a rc t0kinr Lbout Q. least
$5000,000 going to build rclaostion ho=AC to Innure that
those pcople LhLt currcntly live in Overtown will I-cmain in
Overtown. We al co provided $2,000,000 of that moncy for the
preservation of Black history, The remainder of the amount
was to buy land. The issue becomes in terms of whether
Black; are going to get that money. First of all you have
to understand that in terms of the land ownership riaht now,
80% of the property that we bought in the Overtown side is
currently owned by absentee landlords now, which means that
the majority of them are not Black. So therefore, whether
you have an Overtown/Park West bond issue or not, the
benefits or the Ownership (of' the land is Y,-,ot by Blacks.
Therefore, you have the second aspect of it. That is how do
we insure thLt the blacks that are living there as well as
those that were displaced before, an well an the other
Blacks who Noy want to move in car: have the same rights to
live in the land rvg,rdAs5 of vhethtr thty own the land and
that is Qo-ough the ducisioi:5 o!' thit, City ccqn, i-,-,Jo i
1, -,,Jeer ire
terms of conditjonL that they put on developers, in termb of
affirmative notion, in terms oftht r --'LI M b r - L- 'S Of they
have to liver in overtovn, The WWI; ti"A K Loin e to be
accomplithed in that w: or(: Voinp tc� t,cr :eljjy�g reverlue
mortgage boNdb. In ordvr fOr b developer- to bcnefit from
those revtnue Lortgugt boron, A has to have to much
percent"Et of jow it cone L-06 LOGOY,tt LY."d -o ruch
percentLgt of blacks. 1 1:006 11U9EtL-,t Lhiit tht ZILOUnA Of
money that in in overtown retain, but that the EULruntnew be
instituted wind fol 1OW& Up UpOr! Do 0rub A, black
participation in that. I'd 05o like to say if the money is
not; there, Commissioner Carollco Plummer had a real good
31 33 August 16, 1984
thought at that particular point in time, we may find
ourselves In the position of Saying scrap Park
Nest/Over-town. I think we art- ;;t that cutting edge right
row. You r-,ither are golnR to go with O%.,Prtnt4r/rPrk West or
you don"t gn with Ove-,rivlov-p/rrj-
Mr. ILT. Mr- T rt ta t e d
before, cvcry, tjnr� Tlvf- npp-IT --(l 1-ir,
fore7 am
not orly n prope!rty ot,r-r in tlin c j. t y, rm�,- my is
located in th(e Ot", n 1) el A 1, h r, T i �� R IT-) r I pr T) bly
one of the most Pr'opllr- 11hrit T hnvr, e?v—r
am somewhat dinn. qy(-;d '-.o licnr that YOU didnilt ',Irz,-,T- she
said. What she said s4ns that you s6ou)d not tell People ore
thing and do another. She has not criticized the project.
What she is saying is that this is downtown Park West and so
tell the people that.
31 34 August 16, 1984
She is saying don't do what they did when they Put 1-95
through and gpvp- BlAcks nll thess-, Rreat pots of gold about
how much rnpry they nrez, going to a1co and the John they are
going to rat nod ),-nrn that the community "ns ruln4',d_ Don't
do whst thr Cpjnqt._-, d5d r-nd flr� 11,111,r^y m;4nt.1
to r es n d h �- e r, n ii d I s e r %- r, ns v I or7 - c 1),n i. r of a
Doeumentnry Aurlk-, r, Y AA di t,, 1:-z o r y n-, d Sn r! A- qw,�s o nr al Il r
Bailey nt Inngth, nr-d T rYind his. to t)n n f-.Knr� mnn. n pood
adminitbut:strnor, bhe�,n ;v_�trnpprA "ith n pl,)n that i'r-1- n plin
that i4ill pot bptic-fit i3-lno� n-nd thnt 1:_', -, fnctl -I
question bini extensjvcjyA The first qur!stion I nil ed vnsl
what is going to bnpprn to the D1-,,eJ-n thn-t. nrn thcrc? I He
said "Oh, rsc have got n pinn to prat thr_n4 sorr, other pInce".
This Is not n proj-ct thnt Is p olng to 1)n donn. for the
residents of Ovcrtovn. it is n project of t, -it a
J z 11.� I,
going to bo alone to Ovorto"n, and It In n do"ntown project
caused thlte 'Vo u 1-001C 'It t1le `170S Of the nP,__JtMrrtr;
mean thn unitsr, Porno of thcn nrc- rentn1s,, romc of `h-ni nre
not. It In not for it, Is for ",�bn.t Gary Hart,
called YUMPIESt Young Upper Ilobilc Prof ennionn-Ts vsho want
to be "orking for the City, for the County, ind 5,n thn., negs
complex nt the Civic C7entor, providinr for lnw and nc,.5,icine.
You enn trite Into conniiderntion the priocs of the
facllitI07. Tho'ne pcoplo thnt nre therc rro not going to be
able to Pfford lthntj Tnkr Into connidorntion the 1;�ck or
for rnd you
know,. I
importVIA,
you
C c (I
ond T
help,
a n 6-
gi (1 0 i I his
0(io
C I
1 1_1PtIir 1) e
prob!
�A;(.- pcopIc o
3 U 8 a C s 0 t"S. 3, 1 t i 3, 1 1 i C V C 5, r u ri o Y, 1; (1 o in t get
P�Oplc F411 upnn t. n d fru"tr,t,(d and U, n ,, 'L 0 iL I U4,,_-,L they nre
koing to r=ct ' W
thS.-t! (;,rcat. benefit c r, d c c c t h r= t they arse swot,
they
and then We have. to deal with it on do,;A,,ri the line &,-nd in
every two years in the Black sections of our neiahborhood.
And by the way, I cos very happy to hear my gppd friend, the
City Manager disclaim this as this iclea - Overtown, Park
West. That started before he got here.
Mr. Gary: Well, if I might, Hr. Havor. Hr. H. T. Smith is
also c dynamic spealter, but I v,,oul �
d like to suggest to Mr.
H. T. Smith, thLt if YOU rCOLIlt "Llhe pwomi:;es ... the Issue
has not been the dcoiston tar L-1100ate LOney that i3 supposed
to bene"t r;11 -`cVEM(rit' Of the 0=wunitY. It i� fulfillment
Of thLt J)r=Ate. VIC, pl-OWI-1ke t>t:C,,n brol,t__
.11, and therefore,
you hLvc to follov Lfter the fact.-:,, LI-1(i
that I uould 11kc-, to hLVC, thLt OIDI)CIrtUilit�1 tCi -At down with
YOU to LhOv YOU Lol;�:u 6ufeeuard_t� thLt, C%itt in there,
particUlLr-ly tiers c thut ut-re Lddt�d by CoiLlili�,,;ioncr Dawkins
at the lLiat Lieutine, L_- IIL�11 butige-tier: you may
have to even ift-Wtiltr th0_';L �Ll"eEULrdti, but I CLt' trill YOU
right now thzit thu Lajor tart of' ()VL_rtoWn - we are talking
about thib t20,000,000 Go."MC in Over town west of the tracks,
and the luaJoritY Of th044programs are designed, and I want
to show it to you, to ..,
3A 35 AUSU3t 16* 1964
(INAUDIBLE RACW,R0U17qD COM11F.NTS)
Mr. GAryt 1:, -nnt. to tplk to you - you were not
at tllf,, m-rijng conomi.1slone r DnOcins spid that
$59000-000 `-0,000,00() hP(I to 1:�r, i i t 13. 1. A e, d for
re1oopt.j.07) 1w 11 ) r popl,!. i - A-i r) -rr^ntly -live
wi,thlo) Ovnr�.O-n- it
Mayor : rpr yoll meet
With both r, IA-Iorn-ey �7".j th nod TInnge nind of-lbers thnt nay
Want to Join you nncl flfrb nlllk,^!y and dirzounrt this :71-. It Is
6:15 PJL PDd hnvf� Ot" Cr inSt'Of-, P (I I nt to see
Mr. A I e j n n d r r� and Mr. J,stirrdo v,1110 rnvn 1.1p loninp '! at: a
;>nntt - jonn conm3tt er, , nnd 1 am
sorry tb-7t you hnire, hnd to do Ont, bilt t1r, Lr)redo ...
Mr. Lnurndo: ju-nt. t;nnt to ns.ke sornA very ft;ndnmental
remarhn. 1 nm not dircotJng -y
-, It 1c."o n-,j one in particular,
but there rare nn nviful lot of pc.,oplo r-ho nro not very
informed sbou,4 t ji ing, that, they shoolcl be Inforred nbout,
and It. pain n(- per;7onally to brive, nt-ton4ed this Com.miision
that I tinn so bonorcd to ts(, placed An tbnt have public
hearings rill ovor thc p1non. j4p have hc,,irjngs here and we
were here so;nmtiros anti l pi,t 12:30 rnd roc- w-ern nnsured of
the BInck impnet and there w!an rn nwful lot of information
and all of r, Inuddon rono people nt the nomeat of dccision,,
were no_ nt- o;'p and I rn pr,.rt-1P_uIr-.rly disnuiYed that the
Commission di(j not: rcp),ly tnt'ro lnt.o conridcrrtlon in nny
subst-nnIL-4rc the 1-r7ult of' t.jjj,r Cor-Jr,Wr roportr that
the yoi; llir rzli.0 k1ne' 'Avr' -v* o U.
licit (_%v 0 u
very c,
the j
ex PC I-
h of v, -v (1
ben ct f Ji, 1 6 S h( 1%
c o m r, I V n:. 1-c
to
j
t
X-c
that Ci*,*,-);ii-,-.�'�,,2-;�",.'),(',,,"i-"",C Y�- i-1 V(7 D
and 1, �_�o 3. c, r C. t, r f-
ab 0 U t $ 81 0 " 0 G 0 r G00. -J.. t j, r .5. �nvr:,_ 1--i. d bc: C,�i I C ycju t, rr,,. ri a 14,-, 6. i stcun s in
tie $ 35 , 0 0 0 r () 0 D C 1;:41-- o 11 n 1) n, -11. 1 o t -!` o 1- p, a r r r 1:u t N; c &_. c trying
to have the iu, po s s i b I c tc. s tF off Culing people vho are
fundamentally votine bectuse of philosiophical commitmerits to
additional tnx, er, cnormous amount of rioney, and Esc don't
seem to get:, aftcr all these things together, and I don't
care how you out the pie up* LoS just decided today that our
main tasl:t uhien, is fundamentally to Go out and sell it, I
have more problens with this Mayor, than you do, and I think
your story illustrvitess how I feel, L3nd I think, a lot of
other rae-&..,ber.- of the cormisnAon you appointed. You know, we
are thrc.Ang out the baby with the, bath water, L-nd let's
just r_,et or, vith whatever you decide to do. I think, that it
is fundz-.werAL-Ily fair. Sowe pcoplc Luy havc.! ditferences,
but let'.- L-,,o out Lnd Loll this. I LM VCry' 1XI55iLiStiC nOWt
if we cLrilt oven under atLnd it, hou Lrc ure C-oing to get
people to zccep:t bLArqu. 'Lai:ed for Ln
that thit� J_zi tLUIUL LbOjUt�
Mr. Cc-tiro-11(,: 1-1%, opindiol-&oAti fol: 0'4e Xeco,,-d, v.ha1Lc1!iL-:;C it
ift- Vox:01,
gettino
$10,000,000 thu, 144,bt ti-wt�. e_,round, do vou think vc-)u re
going to get *30,000*000 �- 40,()00,000 U&hLe-d? The problem is
that Miamians- that live in the City of Miami are being taxed
more th&n any other municipality in this County, with the
Id 36 August 16, 1984
A
%k
exception of that littlp island by Mi,Aml. P-nnb thnt has 27
millionnlr^s living there. Tbpv don't can nnyny, And the
f,- people of thCity of flinni, f-.2d amp villi riitter
what thn-v nr-- If)-
Thl_- In 4 voll h;7v(- sr~ov-4-n 01homes
being nnl(l 11 nvr In IJ)i-1 CI-ty. rota pnlrtlelil.: lir, Mtn mrop
right hpr-, rvhln pnnlp!,�, s-r- hnvJpr 01"n pslF r,.350. rn month
or morr?, p-oplc, when
J
they boufji'i I'LL-hr^Ir htM^^^ nnny- r-.rn hnrp. PnO, hoiirht them
r-n onnbll^ rites 1 no" "010-h th_-'7 home is
worth ro r-meh norr,, T r, A - 1�:, Pnid for, hut 'kIlIny
have to ran} ftROO or nore, n n.oil'h 5.11, IrvnrhnFf- fees,
this, thnl-- mod the othcr, -ilice P-nn't of ford to Live in the
City o;, t1inni, r,-.ly riorn, so 1 enro bot; thn final
pictures- v-rnnts to hn evt-v I Junt hop- -or, nlI up your
minds qiilck, Do Fc nnn vot4^ on it. To ny opl"lon, "hichever
way the fln.-J figuron come, down for It 1:,, not F,oing to pass
the ballot-
4. ACCEPT P F, CO!'M E Ill PAT I QN, S3 MADF� PIT TIT f 74 9-7. Cr 111 V, 17 7 F F FOFI
RESPOPSIBLE V D S Mr; nEGARDIPG P15TRITMUONI OF - THE
FORTUMVIG HOUSIM AND REDEXELOPUFT17 PIOPID I.SSUF
Mayor Forre.,
fUl right, Mr. Alejandro, then we
need to
vote.
e
Mr. Arrlrnolo
13,rJ,n6rc: YCSr I vant to clnrify
i7-oncthing
else. T
7 r. P I
I) rtovn ttJcc, Once r 11 _3P i Ir,
-mo me a
tour rn('
n c ric, "7'ry
-'ens,
plamnc(I
J-
11c
PO r t3l Y
4
�nd it
col
that cv(,
Pro Yc,
will
I!( c v
a re
C!
o' I (.,, 1,:"0 i .11 1t - I I
produic",
a, i i s, e
"u
r 71 -0 grow
Ak� it
A
cwt- j-) r.vcn from tlanti,- L-o
tf 'IFk
c
P'C) 77
hinav: c) tljc�ni I -I
you
have to bc very cLreful crid I trilril, tvc hluvc a big chance, no
matter if it is 445,000,000 to pas.- thi5 bond this year if
we handle the thirst; the right vay. I think the right way is
to split the money in the way I propose, because I feel it
can do a lot of, tnd all the meribers of the commisaicn, will
do the same thing, w or Ir. i n L; w i th IKI h e leaders of this
community, becauae they knowr, --nd that is true for Mrs.
Range, like always the Slact s. vote for and theHispanics
vote against, but we cre here to try for therm to vote the
other vLy, and I think tze cLn cocomplith that.
Mayor Forre:
All right, thL111YOU
VCI-y LIUCh.
WQ have
before u-- the
pY-c_,cntL-d
by
111r, hlcjandre,
and I think befort
ue vote on the
itaut, we
need to vote on
the di�tribution,
to tit Y'lot be
voting
cyr,
the bond issue
now, the oi4ly
thing I vould lil,(-,
not: iti
if
-�.cL�cbody could
make L motion
tO LCUfLI)t Ot-
r-C,"COL
J
%'Jlt;
I-LCC.-[L` (;)Idation
of co-ChLirpert-on
AltJL-riOre.
-1
Mr. CLrJ( oJ,Ht-
. i, 1 ILy0r,, I LLkt 4 LOtIO14 thZit VC Lect-q)t the
recom.mendation of' Hr. hlejz�,ndre.
Mayor Ferre.- Ib there L aveond? We are not voting on the
bond ibzue now. We are voting on the distribution.
Id 37 * t August 16, 1984
Mr. Carollo: Not on the bond issue,
Mr. Perez: Yen, we are voting only on the disttibutjon.
Mr. Plilmn, nr
17T -,4 1A.
A-n
Jult to the
report, p(-rlod'i
Mayor Fnrrc-. 714�
nrc
vlottinp,
t� bin recorn -mr-nd nt ion
that this bond
I n - iin-
-nd "n h- I nrz d J i 11L. r 1, b u d, Any
n the
folxo)4ing VT fl V
!�no,000.000
K
f(
A ') -, Over town/Prw k West;
$15tOOO,OOO for
.
linvnnn;
!�10,000,000 for Llbrrty City.
That �s bis rneomm
endnt
Mr. PI umr.i or : Wo 13, p then PIr. . 71nyor� r it wo o Id tyke a
reconsidcrntlon motion, Thn rotion of this Conmi.---ion ...
Mayor Forro.- 1-1(, nrn
not otinr on "his Iret. Uc
nre just
voting, bo-cnij:7,o, ns
I tindvcrstn-nd
It, Commiris-loorr, ve are
not goingto hnve ttbc,
voto on ttlhn
finn), 1,ond isijr
of nither
Commis3loncr Cnrollo,
or Porez, n
�o
ioe-,
n1j I i-uld liko
t do Js
get thnt portion behind
vis on
tan distribijticon
that is
aeceptnblo to n1l of
us, nnd then
vil T4;ill vote on
the main
Issue.
Mr. Smith fir, Unyor, wlLh regnrdo to the distribution, -as I
listened to the report, it ny understanding that the
committcr,, ncvcr nnt rs n vlllolo—
Mayor Fcrr�--- 711ni., �.- oorrcot.
r co-mmittee recom.mcndation.
M8 V 0 1° It Is
v on c o,,' r p c. r eons.
Thc:,, F 0 1 1,boy were
C o
and IA-. f'or it
the t, 5 0 11 t (2 d to
the
%)
n an, C o f J
o ort h a v e
• to 00vir'o t,: h -CC
Mr.f. t, I don't
think !J- vou 16 be vpproprivlt(-rcccpt Wic rc ocrim cridat ion
Frog one p c, r s o n V Vlhy v.,na. the catza�bli.-� [led?
Mayor Ferro: Thiss, com=ittce
Mr. Smith: I one per--!on. I have a recomirnendationt
3I
Mayor Ferro: yes r rye Vill listen to your
recommendation.
on.
Mr. &aith: 14y roao",iiendatioii that the uoney be equally
split and that Over town/Park. West riot c-vc,,,i be considered as
a benefit to the Lllvck aoLmnurtilty.
Mayor Ferre: All t-ICUr ar-YbOdY t-lanit to Lal-te that raotion?
M r . P I u i _u tL- e r -. 1411,tut t,,Lb thLtt
Mayor Fcv-rot GVtrt0W!-1 riot, I)Q-ili� Considered.
(INAUDIULE UPXKG1A1-0UUU CORKLKTS)
Cyr. S, L i t h - U0 t 110. Qjr, I cll express myself. I don't
need you to it4tLrPrtt. VI)LIL I aLlld was, that Liberty City
receive ati eqU41 LLUUht 4� Lht- other 4rtua, 3o that Overtown
13 not cont�idered �k- L UL-ritfit to either Liberty City or
whatever, because that is a dowritown'project. That is what I
said without interpretation or translation.
Id -4 A August 16, 1984
Mayor Ferro '; We, T .e nll r I P, 111% !.A k to
first of 111 71-1v Mint i 'Iipvf� th- r *,_n p -,n.(l rpgprd
for you n-nd prolle-1-1,nnn).1y, ljr,oii � rr,(pjf,%.,tt4P_ d
to g., F. I t
loll nj -!o 11 n V r" t7 n n I)p 'Is a
0, 1n n of onn M169 r_)kr� you- ton
and hj,- Co-1 CePt
of tr-mOn hl, TInni-R10
your rceormm<�ndnl-Jnn npfl, -w)kr? m o t I n 1,--, n e 1 F '_v 0 1 -1 n 3 a
k" 1-"0 of her V 0 t r-�,n
commit�cn Of onr� and If It hn�7 91
beenusn r t r! eloneted bod'v, tlol,4 your
positionI h-qPpc_-.) to tblnk phllonophlenlly thhnt. You are
right; b o i,, r-- v �, 0 from n prnetien.). point. of Vir-,"t If this
thing Is- dnnd, it I-jIl be deader n f t nr cis o n that
motion. Vo"r T air not xnljcjnj_ n boat ribst is rightR x am
talking -ov you tl;nnt to be
, nbout vbnt Is dof-Able . H .
philonophicnI PnO do w hn t is r A p, h t r, v, n a g o dorm In glorious
defeat, tbcn that: in fine but I "d"ld rather pass It. Now,
thinh Cnroljo Is right. The odds of this thin p passing
are very slightf and X tilin%, that njilylkhing that i-e enn do to
improve the oddst Is somethinr f, _tkaat I am in favor of. It is
perfect? Vo it is not. Do I like it? How I dOn't, Will I
accept it? Ycor I. 14111 1 vote for It? Yn-n? I will.
Mr. Smith,- 11r. Hnyor r nll I t,;nn -nnying vmsr thilt Lib ' orty
City should receive the name n1locstion as retry other
neighborhood. It In not fnir to put Ovcrtovn/Pnrk Host ...
Mayor Fcrrc-. And so -houlej. Allnpnttnh1 And so should
Wynwood.
Mr. Sr,)IIb: Allrprt,A".rh 5,:7, not under consideration, most
respectfully, I t r , V,-, y o r ,
Mr. 1170.),, ,,,hould be. I think
Mayor F'orre: V01r, uThy not?
Mr. Car o),Io: J-x;tlo include Allapattah and make it
Mayor Fere: r111, 11 c r Dr, vlplS, nn said that It should be
Includcd. felov, nboult", Cor-onut, (rrjvn,7 flojur vibout Black Grove?
Mr. m i t, 1,,, V C's 13. 1 1 d() n I "G t,-ts-D'U, k_;O r'--Arc [__, soke Out of it.
All I n y i n c-, X t, In c r c i .- no committee
recommendation, end thcrofare if lo"licrc i-1 c distribution, it
13 a motion of a mcmber.
Mayor Ferro: That li,. correct. Just like yours is an
individual recor endation, this is an individual
recommendation of Mr. Armando Alejandro an 1-11r. Gonzales and
the others thLt ret - an individual.
Mr. Carallo: Well, I don't know nou. Hr. Smith lias got me
wondering. I don't know If I LM going to vote foi- this now.
Mayor Ferre: h11 rivht now, we have two recommendations. I
would likc to acc what the will of thin 00IMmittC."e. is. The
last 1 htaVd, thtrL 11CZ,'; L, U`Oti011 th8t the recoramendation of
Alejandro. be 4ocepted. Do you atLtnd by that?
Mr. Carollo-, I will LtLnd vith the motion, but I am still
voting for it or not. loft. Smith ...
Mayor Fear e: 1,a there a second.
Mr. Perez: Second.
August 16. 1984
39
51
Mayor Fprrr: .0-77P Ts t I ie�r n di 101AF Ion? We are not
voting on thn bond i,sniir- n-)w. F.nll 1-h- rnll-
Thp f n 11 o w 1. ng -I10 il, JC'tj "111:7 Introduced by
Commissioner Corolln, vilv)
tip --�Jon
A MOTION A.Ci-F-,-jTZ1G THE RECOMMUTDATION OF
Mr. APHATIVO -111-73.AITTTIV, CO-CIIIPIPMAN OF
THE COMMITTEE FOR RESFOMIDLE BONDS
REGARDUG THE RF-00MMF,1,7DF7D DTISTRIBUTION
OF THE T07,11. A7101PIT 07 rOP17HCOtiING
HOUSING FIOVID TSIMIIIZ If, 'F70ITEMUR., 10Mir TO
BE DISTRULITED AS FOUOWIS:
:0,20,000,000 - Over tot�,P-Tlnr k Went
ft15,000.000 - Llttlr, Tinvp-nn
fWPOOO,000 - Libcrty City
Upon bcinr roconded by CoPT-iii.snloncr Perez, the motion
was passed nnd Pdoptod by the folloiilng vote
AYES: Com-minnioner llillcr J. DsT-1cins
Vice -Mayor Denctrio Paro7-,
Mayor 11�urlco A. Forge
NOES: Coraminsioner Joe Carollo
Comn.insioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
ABSENT: N 0 n 0
ON ROLL CAIJ.:
Mr. Pcrv,: T, vote '"yes" about the distribution, but I make
it very Olcrr nflain that I elan't think that this is the
propci, 5-or the I.Yond. r.nd nr- I %rotcd in the past,
I will Vr-f-r1,,`ZT)e,`i-, 1J) c T i -i 0" 11 c r but T vo-lir "yes" in
favor of the
Mr. rn.-,f to voto to but (1111,tUDIBLE)
Mr. X Rolle "no". Mr. Smith convinced me of what
he
Mayor Fcrrc: How we have and accepted, which is not
bindirq7 :. k.t this point. Lucia, tell me legally whether we
want to rcscind the previous motion and pass a new motion
at this point?
Mrs. Dougherty- You ore going to have to pass the ordinance
again on First Reading and that would be on the 6th
Mayor Forre: All right, do you have that prepared?
Mrs. Doueherty: 1 don't kave it prepci-ed.
MBYOr Fc-l-vc. 1, 11 right LEE r10 W, I for" Ll o be, legal in this,
what i.-,. the thing "Lht�t we nu.,,31u do?
Mrs. DouVjicrty: LN"ll, 11L�ve to Cavan the ordinance on First
Reading on the Gui zind on Second ller�di.ng on the Kith.
Mayor Verrc: Do we jr)!` !in Lt C'f JrjtL'rjt I)OV.17 Do we
rescind iLhe pr(,,vjot.,t; �CLiOtl.
i
Mrs. Dougherty, it, _,0 IL f, V1 t t tit I i d i t- c t it 1 - w e to
prepare thL
Mayor Verre: All riot therl, 14 there rLaw a ttotion that the
City Attorney be authorized to prepare an ordinance for
Id 40 August 16, 1984
first rpnding on tb P 6th day off' S"� rj 1-1 m, b � r and so
adverts spit, 10 thnt q bond issue (-%An b4� pi)t on the ballot on
Novembrr 41-Ah J,n neeordqnnp tqith thr, (UnI.1-11,hul-jon tbAt has
just bo�PT)
a n ot_ h nu Tn� c) 4'. 1, o n . On hni ' Mv
$15 r 000, 000 f (, r 1_1 IL I. I , -nllkl-i 17, tlle,rf- ij
-,n n mart 0 v) I )f !"10,000,000 for
Liberty City. J- would 3,11<n to nnkr tlhnt A15,000,000 for
b^ ST
Littlo Ununn-np t 175,000,000 for 1-1 _-�ty An ejoing
all right ro fnr-t OT"ny, ^��15,000,000 for t ha to
all right? Dkiy_ you nnj I (I to j-hijil< r , r-Invor ghat is
what I ;-,m going to do - think bl.r-
zr you know. He enn't be a
small tot -in eityl 1',15t000,000 for Allspstitnt), t-15,000^0
for Wynijood. Okny, vhnt nrf* "e up to now? And $15,000000
for Blnek Coconut Grove. Thone nre the most needy Areas of
the city of Minni.
Mr. Plumnmnr: Flint about Flngsmi? *
Mr. Csrollo: If I have nlosed nny, they are not as needy as
the other nrens .
Mayor Ferre: There is n notion.
Mr. Cnrolla: Tic hieve got *45,000,000 for those neediest
Black nrc!.,v- and tic rote ^115,000,000 for the most neediest
Latin nrons of the City of Hinmi - 890,000,000. Mr. Mayor,
it is P,.Y motion tnni,- t-�e extend the bonds to $90pOOOtOOO;
$15,000,000 far rrch of the nreas that I mentioned here.
Mr. Ootrr.i,r t f-ccond
Qz�
bait Mr- t if3 down the line t t 14r. Smith asked.
Mayor rcrrc,r -G(�
V0 a 'nloti:yn and a t'"01)d, T think what
�you P, 0 Y- 1 Y).
ut $,f t 1, f the will f.
")rj(1x$,tythc))With to w1. •l' c
total c5f,"cT)j,
�,-1-
545Passing r,"�,0,000
T000
V "", r
second. I t'h'n)- nrid a
"I
C,j
tJ ty
wants to do in. u, 1. 1 X.j cl 1-1 t j,,.k Hj JA,�_s N -V- 4. 1,
righ); call the roll, . .. --cIr .1:Ck3,,iC,11` 7.11
HOTIOH DEFEATED. On motion of Coi.1aiis- sioner
Carollo and seconded by Commissioner Dawkins,
the foregoing notion pertaining to a $90,000f000
bond is3uc w-as defeated by the following vote:
AYES., Conmissioner Hiller J. D&wkins
Commissioncr Joe CLrolio
NOES: Commi*sioncr J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice-11-ayor Demetrio Perez
Hayor H,"-urice A. Ferre
ABSENT: NONE
ON ROLL CALL:
Mr. Plummer: h ICO'D,000,000 bond issue represents In actual
costs 4102toc)0�000 ut h e n paid off over 30 years. A
$90,000,000 bond ibtue would be one -quarter of a billion
dollar3 paid oft over the 30 years.
Mr. Carollo: Don't be a small time city!
41
Id August 16, 1984
U
Mr. Plummer: I think It is unreslintin, Pnd I vote no.
Mr. Perez I hRvo P qtjpstion bnfnrrr 1, vote. Are we going
to have tbis A90,000,00 0 - nrn we going to have It one
questlon, or In n1r questions?
Mr. rltmn.n�r:
1b
Mayor Frrr-:
11p t� -rnl�fl
Mr. Go for 41)n Foldl
Mayor Frrvp:-. vin ,,-�y lie is going
to do is put
In
Six diffr-r('-)t que-tJons
and 1 *will vote for
that,/ if
you
want t.o do it tent TP�y.
Mr. Fere-;7: I don't. hnve
nny ineonvcnicnen
to support that
motion.
Mr. Cnrollo,, Flo hnvo. got
to r--,o -III tile v7ny�
If tar. have
got
to be n big town city, r=ro
hnv(, got, to go -)I].
the i-;ny and,
put
It all ltogcthcr�
Mr. Pere.7.: I think that, t4ould, be very fair to gj%!c each
neighborbood tiro proper opportunity, but In eas-61 I
would vote ii,19-th t'llis, rnoljonr if vn hnvc the opportunity to
have It in i 4
Affcronl-, qocstion.,). I vould- lik'n to have
legal ,
Mr. Caro'11.1-ol-
fil-rc,
c r rn
c 11 C'. F3
certainly,
A I-
t-( r- C, C, �1
'Ah
>ocnn
n J) n r, 1)
-P
this
I tir yor
has
people
Pass,
i vou
gave t"(11 6)1A it I" W,
I d
have pt,.�>!-,)
"d are
their c);�-k
fir ors
their '1
Ni,,3 e d
on their j(-,(je,
Mr. Pcvc,.,tIT tl,(1; f vote
ye3, bial "0 C-1�-Tif'YV t1,K'fG'1`C 1 WtC.
Mr. Carollo: it, is Coinnf-,F, to be very I;Lrd to put in six
different questionn.
Mr. Pcrez: If' it is in Just in one quc-stion- I vote no.
Mr. Carollo: Miller, lot me anit you t1lis,. Would you be
willing to
Mr. Ongie: Aftcr you fini-sh thct roll OLlI.
Mr. Carol lo: -econd it If ve put in six different
questionn .
IL t k L e
Mayor 1---errt Th(� Ch�Ar rt-tV-b j th t w complete the roll
call. 1 vote 1,0.
Mr. CAhOLLO: 11c, hiL ti i'jn j ing
Mayor Ferret, I firil-,htd. I votled no.
Mr. Plummer: Who didn't finish?'
Id . 4? August 16, 1984
Ab
Mayor Ferret -6 fie fininlir-0, li,� voted no On the record, I
voted no. MAkP your n-w
Mr. Carollo-, Tly jjrLi ?1r, Mnyor. in bnned tipon what
to Commisslon,�r Pe-rr,7.
h- qut-stlon in
tl,�).000 000 bonds
six diff-°-,-P'- 9
eeLch for TJ1A,.sue, 'Tn�.-nnn, cjty, 14wnwood. Aljapattah,
Overtopn r-id
Mayor Fcrr-: T +i s.31c i n s :, r, n o -n d ifT that m o t I o n 7
Mr.
Mayor F-r;-ol- 11ndor elicusilon - I would recommend that we
not voti;,, for 4' chat will totally polarize this
community, lleontPnfl I ;in, nfrnid Home- of those bond Issues
would pRng rnd thcn you Pro going to end up with
neighborhoodn juni-. volk'-.Ing in their OwT) ,icif-interest, and I
think th-t roulA be, n vcry bid thing for the total
communityTbl- 1;7,. r rnri,oun matter, nnd I realize we all
have our rbts 1-o nrpre ,2,:7 ovir opinion, My opinion is that
we should Fr!t on u_;Jtli thin ls�uo end put this $45 000 000
bond i u n il,o1cn)- issu.e on the ballot and work hard to
see thnt It gct:l
Mr. Carollo- tr.
1-,,Pyo),ke 11,ive n motion and a second.
Now, let M0 ,'ny
thi:i r the nrgument that my colleague, the
undertak,cr mrale,
i.,f thrAt �00.000,,00_0 - -my God Would be a
quarter of n t)Illion
(101-11-T t-li-ro-ught so nuch tirn.e nut�snit that
rob I -or
in effect.,
v� rxr 6cir.r, vlr�rd.y vith 5 0 0,
housinr-, C,35,000,000
'70F F;T'7 f B0 F C-00 000,
only 110,00C 0 0
for 11c u 5 ri - :710
how ern o�!
0 0
come to �_Iu -
-I) , C r 5, 11 s t
r 1
r I - -
when: yvil
of CIOU ("v
Mr. Flu,.M-;,(-T
`01 r,y y u rd,
who eovl(l vl(A
("T �,,)j 0 Ji(roaoso it would
increru,:`f �,
'Jwoi-idcr hov� you to (,,Ioubling, raore. than
doublirw,
ta),, e
n dot; U i fif That is
accoptrl:l c
Mayor 1-c r r c - [.r E c rccdy to vote now?
Mr. Carollo: 1,n expic-Ain that to you in a minute, Plummer.
Let's vote or it first.
Mayor Ferret. Further discussion? Call the roll.
MOTION DEFEATED. On motion by Commissioner
Carollo, seconded by Vice -Mayor Perez, the
foregoing notion pertaining to six different
questions On a ,k90,000,000 bond issue W33
defeated by 4-1-he following vote:
AYES: CO!Lmi5sioncr Joe CLrol!O
Vicc-Xiayor Dcrtictrio 'Pere_-, Jr.
NOES: CotLwit5joner Hiller J. Dawkins
Co� zi_5.loncr J. L. Plurnamer, Jr.
I
mayor 116turice A.. Ferre
ABSEN'T: E, a i -, e
ON ROLL CALL:
Mr. Perez: I vote yes in order to recognize the opportunity
to every neighborhood in this community.
Id 43 August 16, 1984
U
C
Mayor Ferre: Are we ready now to vote on the main issue?
Mr, Plummer: Mr. Mayor, if I Pim not, mint;akeng the main
issue is sTrc,,q(jy before us .1nd 1)pon, sonless there
were to be A mol'_jo" 141,lo ch_-)nr- th--l—
Mayor T^c- r V- -- : , no - J, 1 . 0114". of f n 1, r n --s n to both
Cnrollln rind -krrin-1, P011 t-hn", 1 1t r 11n .-bot,1 -) 1111nnimity in
the d I sl-j Duil- I or) o A' t I i n T-�opr� y , 1) 1) 1. 1- 11, (� -V 0 o ,-1 1 1, ��? 1 -0) ", to Vote
for the bend 1!7-un, ro out of A'nlrn�sn to thrn g. Mink we
no w n n n, d7 t o ", n 1, f, -o,, 1) n r) n I n r, o t 5, o D, '. w1h I e h S-, 11 r Y �T 13, 3. b o t i n g
a g a i n n t . and 1-1h,-)t; i , 0int the City AtJornry bc- lnstrueted to
preppre on Firnt, Rending --.n ordinnnen for n Novcmbcr vote
for n P-t15,000,000 bond innun? -ft15PO00POOO of which will go
to 0vPrt0f--!'R, $5,000.000 t. PRrh Westt $159000t000 to Little
Maryann, and A10 000,000 to Liberty City. Is there such a
motion?
Mr. Cnrollo:
Mayor Ferre: WIt n ninute. Joe, I accepted two of 'your
mot iovv � fx-t me riff-_ if we can get this motion,, and then if
you "Alit to do Samirlit'lling else
Mr. Carolla: For "Of what: I am askinp is to repeat it
again, "OhIrt, it
Mayor
1-cpert, it.
The notion,
5, r- iD:�truct
the City AtA,crrfr',y
to, preptare
f�,n ordinrnoc
.-n6 r-idverti-se
p u b 15, e ", V
Ticr,rinr, on Firr.,t Rxr-,dinr, on
6th.
T h e 1) c" 1
v 0 t t') P 0 r,
t h c. 11 t r. I 1� 0 to
10C fiv'k, on the
/Ith 1_17i3,1
t)c for n
ount of
4.5 t 0 11") D
Mr. Ctivo),Toe
ylascd tg*�()Y) wha"t vas
Vol"(!("! cm
Mayor Ycry
Of vlhicht 115t000,000
ui,)).
1-� In overtown,
$5,000,000 it,
Pel'4', Vest, !`�'151000,000
to I.-itUc
flavninn, and
$10100OF000 In
Y,-IJcrl,y 01ty. t'Ji("r(
ri motiQT17
Mr. Perc . e-15rOOOF000 to Cityt Little Havana
$15,000,000, hou i�riuch
Mr. Gary: I'i
Lurice, It, i.s,, �20,000,000 Overtown.
Mayor Perre:
ft,20,000,000
Overtown. I
stand corrected.
$20,000,000
Overtown;
$151000r000t
Little Havana;
$10,000,000,
Liberty City.
13 there e.9ch a
me%tinn?
Mr. Perez: l-,7e have a necond?
Mr. Plummer: Tibere is no Laotion.
Mr. Carollo: Va, I didn't L-.ake no motion.
Mr. Perez: You uLdc the uotion, no?
(TAPE 6)
Mayor Frre. 1`11. (_� thL e ,-otion, if that makes everybody
cI - L�iLJ�,I
happy. I'll tjLN- thie uotiou- All right, I so move.
Mr. C&rojj0*. T-10--c' 1' U LOU0,11, i� there a second?
Mr. LII riLthtj ti-ecud the uotion.
Mr. P I ut.aLi e r : 'I_11L.re is L Lotion made and duly seconded. Is
there any further diacuamior,7 Notion understood. Call the
roll.
Id
August 16, 1984
44
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MOTION DEFEATED, On W"
secondpri by Cnmml,sonpl
motio r C�
n (-jtv AAc,-;n--y p, p and
aodv er tA no-2--d 11 n,-, for:. n QVC(' 1w,nd I q sue
t
6th.
AYES:
M r 7-
NOES: copnjrninnf�'113,Irr .7, Dawkins
C o m 7-n 1, n o n fr� r Cnrollo
corn-,-117nlonrr J� L. Plummer, Jr.
ABSENT: Hann
Mayor Ferre: I move, thnt no bond Issue be put on the ballot
this November. I so nove.
Mr. Dawkins: Sceond.
M r . P I um ni r, r : rjr, X walit to any to you, sir, that I
am not sure tlint you nro t.-;rong, beenuse I do have the %3aMe
guarded oult-.00rmn r,-. 71r. Cnrollo hr..,i expressed as to whether
or not It votild ppis- n1l.
Mr. Cnrollo:
You knoh7 it i-on't prir-
Mr.
T, -,ny -o you -- G-'r.
I-Inyor, this, if your
(notion P-PPI-C-
t T, -z—oll 'Go yp-,7, rnd
to the public that I
will
r 3. r- r
dot-,!n Pnrk West, and
elirzinzr!,.- "-I)(-
r I - 6 o v
T) r T'o � -ho
v �n vc voted
on
4 TO
if you don't
put the
I C., t! 1 1,;,
Mayor Ferrf.,:
!C,0
.o tho ptiblic why
you Would vo�c
you voted for
the
od",
Mr. P I v m r,; a r
63..rY
1 -k cn I".. I voted for
$40000D,OOD
'C', 1 000 000 2 0 F 0 01000
d $ 10 t 0 0 0 1000.
Mayor Rxr(,.-
111a i r I
Mr. Plu, icr-,
Ycn, thtt �-- t-A-int I
voted for.
Mayor Fcrre:
fxn, coca h I c J a- rt d r c . . .
Mr. Alejandre:
Not no, you voted for $100000$000t
$15g000t00O end
*',20t000,000.
Mr. Pluv.,amer:
No. sir, I voted against
your recommendation.
• Mr. Alejandro:
No, you didnt.
Mr. Plu=er:
Ye5, tir.,
Mayor e'er r(--
11"Ll1 the Clerk verify
Mr . C a r c) -11 o he did th�t for the same reason he says
Mi-a'Luh in!Atizd of illiLLi.
Mr. EX,, hoti did I vote, sir?
Mr. onvjc. t,X. L.nd Fr. Plummer voted "no". 0
to tbLllk YOU, :sir.Mr. Plu= r
Mayor Ferre: Voted "no`* on what?
Id
45
August 16, 1984
Mr. Angie; On accepting the recommendations of Mr.
Alejandre,
Mr. Cprnllo: Mr. Mayor, I n;!47-!d to e.-
Who vo-1U.nd "ynn" then?
M e . F), ii I m m i - r Tkbr' 01"Alr�r tbrr�rf
Mr. Onr0o: Tb--
tiircg-�, - tinyor Ferreq Mr. Perez and Mr.
Dawkinr A
Mr. 1-1,1ve to votf. tw -lee for the Aa111e
thin
Mr. Pr,-iicr lurc c n u n n
Lebo linyor vmnts to sepprnte It Into
two notions.
Mayor Frrp.
C) Ic-gnily 'done that vny instruct
the City Attorpoy
fir. Alej"ndrn: Yell,
rnsIly? I nn. .7,ntisfind with everything
else don,.- Mere toddy
sp.rvrd ptiblie f7orvice or so' many
year g I.- if- o r
r ng h n n g never
- C. of 22 I
seen nny'llbsing thr-tr -L�hit ono votas yc::1, rnd the Sc.00nd
time votes no. k don't.
to clnrify or r-sy v4hnt I feel
todaye yoti Rnot-;7, but,
W
thit ln� the end for r.,Ac ulth if'.ha City
of Minmi rnd the tiond
3,qr,ijor heerm-le vic., r-.r(, not V=mrking day
after dray
thr,' t-rc-, 11,nd ticcn told
here, t(- th,517, 7ruoF� or
rnol-brr roarl o do r-- Tinve to
do and r c-, cl-, oc I; o
Fir-r- f- 'C' (7� n 6 "7 1-Tin rnftl-o to
t
belong 1,:�
41 (-- r T.Alry 'nny
o
l'
a g r c, c., I
$
$
0 n c
10 n
f J P1
6) 1, 1 a t
11-CF.V11 of i V 'ilcAlnthe
'It.,
P e 0 F, I C, i
C; ijo 1, t, 1) a t
m e v n ',D 7
Mr . Flul: Y! m
Mr. Alcj*�indlrc: F',othinr, for Lnyaner cind nothing for the City
of Kiarn:it uhich needit, very badlyt Ovcrtowmv Lt.berty. City,
Little Hlavana,, because: everything alrite ties a circur,.
Let me put it the right %,,,ay, a caircus, to go to
$45rOM000 to $90,000,000, Lnd things Tilt -&-that. That is
my opinion, r-y personal opinion. But, besides 'Chat; its the
opinion of _-o�c of the rember a who are here today.. Thank
you very uch. Good night.
Mr. Curollo: 11r. V ay o r , if I u L y
now, --ince ve arc open
for
if
there
rnyld the circus
,discunsion,
began when wo
'Jumped frci�� 10t
Y - e
t h e, r c wazzi to 1) in
the
ballott to 45.
To ans%ver to x".1-le
' W (0-i- rather "
one
of the ,J,t v;, tement thL t my col I c. ague the und t, r t Lker L-ad e
and
then one of the
quet�tion_-
Mr. AlejL,Indrc. Vould. you Flir. Urollo _ I Lgreed
from the buLinninc, on 't2o'00-0,000 _rid ��',,'.iO,000,000, I never
said 1;111�lt - I LgreC- C11 tht!,t 11"Gd i'rou thO-iu uILY't, -1-01-at
changLN-d L!iC!Ar: thuL, I L-L!yL-cd an 01:v other thing
also. I triL-d, to hLve fund-t, for tire:` Ci'Ly ol'
Mayor Verre.
Vir, ale: jandrv,
don't
r_�o yet.
Ncl no,
don't
go, because I
am removing my
motion,
and I earn
t;oing to,
if' I
may, make a
motion that we
go back
to the
arigirial
place
Id August 16, 1984
46
where we started, with the $20, 000 - Ct for Overtown,
$10,000,000 for Little Havana, And I mo Move.
Mr. Carollo: Mr. Mayor, there is'A motion. Is there a
second?
Mayor Frrre,: The original: recommendation. Let's see if we
can Itrt- thrl— rotp-,s on thAt.
Mr. Csrolln: TDrre- Ain An there q Ptecond? Mr.
Mayor. i i 1,- A -
,vocal to your motion, T vould only
Imagine thn-
t- i�ndnr dR a.r icn and T wolild like
to c 0.1. 7r-i- i -P 1 � thinr�f- if' I ny, r-
r bi-fly.
f-.r -,, coil
mayor Fnrr-r-. Jo-, -T n I 'Ll , 1 n 7r s o- r r %; -
Mr. Cnrollo-- Tt:¢j i-w-) prjnw-lr�n, mr. 11.-Iyor.
Mayor Fcrr�: T pp -de n rnotjop, Pnd 1 1$' I)Jnlc 1"31r, Chairperson
is the Vler�-r,,;,nyor rind !-.r- 1hr,7 lk-.o nnll for n s�.,cond, Now,
after he enlls for n -ocondp and thcrr in no socond, then my
motion
Mr. Cprol.lo: Dlkd yot, err -I 1Or n -nooprIf
Mr. Prrez; T 1i ^ IF o rmer rol�-Jon In A201000r000 for Overtown
and $10,000,000 for J-Ibcrty City.
Hayor e z 11.7 :,n7mcr -rotion is tlic rnmc ns before,
in3tructinr, r'k-.torary i-nd ro on, (,rccpt 14"Innt Vic figures
are $20,000,000 rind ' Wr(.'FDD,000, VI-11,011 '&S- orrr original where
we stnrted,
Mr. Dsvy%ins: oirnerr I tm to fravcnci tlio motion for
discus 5, o n
Mr. Carol lo., o)',-vyr tlrnra., Foci, Wiler, now d4s(nuslon. To
_2 my col IcInZor-, t, tt o v n (Al e r t r; k, ('r p r e v 10 u ly 1-:?r 0 0 a
T,) e, o -, t:T
d tht""n nnl�(,Cj [71:(-� r, o, u s t) 0li I iit) your
r� cc, ov--J. t tj r d
f i r r, t r t I- IL C, C, r� t r I I (j
Sir P. 10t,
13 C, V* C, r 2 n 1-F Y 11,fc 1;—%
C, 1):c to
that y v r; i-
I do a v n r �,:- (� (,, i: ` � ' '� t ti- F D 11di 0 1,. V V. 1, t 1,
guar d s t1it,'11 uo r 1 0 r il- c o Cr,� V r Vov, V your
question of hov ott) 1 U c 9 Cc. r, rj,�44,5V0 t 0 0 0 0 0 1) C, t i 6 ec a use
of high tares, but be for a- k',9OtQOOtOOO botid in-nt(,vc, - V7,,C11
sir, jut v*.,,, I wan ngainst the t4l,5,000,000 bond,, 1 wrould
have been agaiurt690,000,000 bond. till IL"hat I Vlas trying
to do was help you individuals out with the logic that was
being used, that if you went from t10,000,000 to *45,000,000
and spread it around.- people would vote for it - uclflr I was
just tryinr, to eprezid it around even more based on your
logic, vo that banied on your logic,, evcrybody should vote
for it, but I ztill would have be -en against it.
Mr. t it Undo diut.sicu. I vL-- never for the bond
issue, ,:nd un uleeted officizzlt I fcel t,h,,,t it 1:3 right
to Bivc tl-°Ie Public the rit�jlt to -;,iy whiethtr tl-tvcy are for the
bond ia--uL or riot. I for one do riot btli,cve the L--iond i&sue
is Coll.-Ig to but I do beiicvc that I I[Iave, L;3 an
elected officii21, I IiLvt7 to glvc- thk(::, pwlblic that right to
say YCL Or 116-, 1 LU tK'fft !'Cl- Lett. WE il-11L bOrld ibSUeS,
perbOnLlly, IJUILI 1 e'O L,;>VC tO Itt tht PUbliC, the C1t:1-zet145 Of
Miami --,ay wz4nt to tax themselves for
then t bond--.
Mayor vorre: I call the qut:,,tion.
Mr. Smith: Mr. Chairman, Robert's Rules of Order ...
Id
47
August 160 1984
Mr. Dawkins: We run under Mason's Order.
Mr. Smith: I am sorry?
Mr. DPW-, in s: We nrrp.te, 1171"3 fn- tinson " r, Ru I es
Mr. Srml,th; one RmInno, that once the vote is
taken on. nn lf7,nm-la for i'v. 1-,n b-P rec-oi,)nid�rc,.d. it erns to be
brought. up bv somn,--nnr. on vl)-
prrivni.11nrz sldxorThntls true.
Well, I eAnn"t enrr, Wlirn tbn Mnyrfir Is f7linking hi-s heAd. I
know nobert's roil(e- of Ord(-v-.
Mr. rlu-mmnr r I tl-ijni, mr. -11n-itli, you "JU, find, sir,
that If Mint 17 on the s,-ime iisuo, Thn notion of' thr,
Is n diff,,rnnt insuq, not the nnme,
Mr. Smith: I ju�?,t rnisnd th'it point, nnd I
thin?; it is n lcgsl qucstion. his ir. vcr� irport;-nt.
Mr. Dnw%ins: Attorney 2-mith, tie- went throvFh th1r, once
before, -nd the Fr 3 VD-1i D ntlenon i4ho I, now r i # for .Late
A
Attornnd. ty rv-1rhr�t under Vinson l:- R u I of' order P thaat is
not the en -le.
Mayor Ferro; All right, Mr. Chnirninn, I call %"he question,
sir.
Mr. Perez: DD -1-c rny o"Elicr r?txr-tJonn? Do t-M have any
I -
other Ttf not-'r no'[--5onp 1rl l,7D(!
rnd call
the roll
M071011 f7 I I
-"v C, ro ills
motiol-) Ito 10 1000 1000
for i. hc f'ollowing vote:
AYES:
NOES: C 11, o
L. Plummer, Jr.
Perez
ABSENT: 170ne
ON ROLL ULL:
Mr. Perez: The motion Is pertaining to the original, but It
is not a- reeom--,.endation.
Mayor Ferret I am going back to the original of $20,000,000
and $10,000,OD6.
Mr. Perez: As I voted In the past, I vote Hnoto. I vote for
the propex recomendation n-nd I think thot Er. Alejandre is
.1
,very clear. Nio, I wonder - [Ir. Hlaycr, we &,xe here for three
hours. Everybody has,_ tt:c�le:.r r: kauty end I think-. that this iF,
a circus.
Mayor Fer-re . it is a circuL,,, o)-,olute-iyi
Mr. Pc-rez:
Lle Lrc tit-(( tnd WC Lr#-- playing
here.
These people
4.xe t?jving tine to thi.%
comir.�iunity and we
giving also
our tiuc.
1 don't think that; ue
Lru dj'—scub--ing the
same
issue. I
UL It 1 t-(, f- I": L I
L. Dt 10 i I LC�-1111 Lbout
the
re00l=6t1dLtiG11
thbt Hr. L1ejL-1idr(,-
hum L4L.dQ - I wake
as a
motion.
Mayor Ferret All right, Commissioner Perez ...
Id
August 16, 1984
48
Mr. Perez: That Is $20,000,000 for Ovn-rtnwn,
Mr. Dawkins: You hPvr got '110 yoijr motion first.
Mayor F-r�rn_- T wi,tlhdrnle, rmy motlon, Comrfil�,zilonrr Perez,
moves 1-,hn,' "A)� orlj�1,1)11, 'Coorrimendnition of Mr- Aln.l;;ndre be
a V 0-% pt'_ r (1 '.
Mr. Pnrnz: P-fo.ono.000 for overtown, n--10,000,00o for
s Libor ty C 1 T.-.3Y ia)d fL15�4p 000.000�far Lltt),� Itinvnnn, �bnt iwhat
Mayor Fp-.rrn: is there n se-cono? I iiill, :-;neond It.
Mr. r-lrimnnnr: Motion nndo and drily sneondcd. Is there any
disc=",ion? Undor di.,�ovsslon, Comminsioner Dawkins.
Mr. Dnt*1nn: (1171AUDITILE? OFF MTCROPHONE)
Mr. Pliirumor- Any fi).rther disconsion? Motion understood,
call tho roll,
The follouing rotlon v_,ns intradijoed by Vice -Mayor Perez,' who
moved its adoption;
H071TON W. 811-947
A MOTION ACCEPTTUG 1-11F V;ECOt1NFNDAT1ON OF
Mr W�T?1)0 AF A �� , r CO-CHAIRMAN OF
THE C 0 'I'l ", 17, 7 F F FOR 1-i FS PONST 5 LE BONDS
REGARPTN(-- DISTRIBUTION
OF 'Ft -Tr
F(79TUCONING
HOUSTI'C' 1 kG 4 TO
I IC:
BE r's
0 0
I
Upon beinr 1,ri-yor F the notion waa
passed and Vote -
AYES: Corr
.10 Fcrcz, Jr.
Fcrrc
NOES: Comnainsioner Joe Carollo
Coramissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
ASSENT: None
ON ROLL CALL:
Mr. Dawkins: I am voting with the motion, and If the bond
issue doe& paas, then certain individuals out there will
need tlicir head5, oxarnincd, because, if you are. going to take
one section of the comwunity and give it w1hat it wants and
then nay to the oti-ior coL,,junityt lyou t,*o , t t
16, n v.,11at you
want, but you bee. to co votc. for it aunywLyl-, 1 just don't
see how that iLi LoinC to happen, but 1 vote
Mayor L-11 rig hthadk�va City tittorrity, you Lxc now
instructed t-11UrL_1'01_C tO V V C Pe`.Ilr 'Lth J, L for L11 ordinance
reading ON E0 V L I -y"'D e r (-'t I ! , card t 0 C, L_ d V t r 6 e .
Mr. e4rol o i i, r 6 k kt L I I C, t h �,. r L, i nu t e oaf
Your tiLt-, sir-, I uould :�AJju-�t lil'le to I ycau
and L11 tit individual, thut, 6tr,,tt.d C-1,1 y(,,Ut-
beciiuziiL 1 Llic.a thzit thk� houl"b Wid hour of tiLiat,. that you
spent teal t, <for 10it bt�-t, ii,ttL-rebtj of, thib CC;tL_r__U_ ty, I jut
n ' I! S
hope thLt YOU could underbtand a littlt bit of' how some of
US feel Ll'ad 11QU titrohely boMe of us feel.
49
Id August 16, 1964
Mr. AlejtInOrP tb- -4-Inl- t-liffi1q. -T bone you
J T i
vote yes for thr� bon6s to br-' On, 11"! )),13.10t- 11 S is the
only tl)i,PrT Ir.o rzr-e.
Mr. Cn-roTI-c- T -nn
1. nr, T stated.. from the
beginninq. 1, -yr�r," in arty burden of bringing
taxes lip I in, 1-or City, �nd when j.1- was something
thot jyass -rer�ntly -e-Tls broi)qht to the electorate and they
battered it- c3own.
Mr. Alejandre: I want for you to understand that the taxes
has nothing to do with the bond. No nntter if the people
have to pay for It. (I nn one of them "ho has to pay for it)
but, I think, the rain thing for you Ann nn r-lected body is to
represent the City In the rip ,ht "ny snd give the people of
the City the rlFht to (.-,nin sommething tit lenst� Maybe they
cannot gnln tbo viholc- thinF but, 'to gnin o c-i:hin and in
this pnrt1eij1r-,, cs,sn, the only loner is not mysclIK9 IS the
people of vho rnnlly n(--t.-zd Jobs, who really need better
understnoding of the City, and roally need something better
every d.ny nO U vm or-,,n nocomplish somethings live dint, It Is
worth to i-!ork for it. That is the rennson I num hcrc,. Thank
you very much,
DXSC,0SSIOT �-PEH: PRIVATELY FINANCED HPUSIEG 170M LOW
ANU)
TU74COINE
Cri -c,)
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-ryor, may for tho t-coot-6, real.Mr.
�45
br ie f 1 y
VC t 11"at I f 11 c, n you, I" t
SOLD e tr I 't J'i
IT n 0 in
severv,)
thir,
t
the
I-, t
w a r.; J-j-
th, 1"h J."d
Lon d
6 h
City I,:;, %
in the 3.- _j
-orin the
Manage. 9 re', t c tAl
i E, 11'Jr-ch It U I i s-
Co=niz;s.-Lon, t-1ter
we. vntccl for 1--hat- we
could ki-apicnic-nt tollaidiri
C Dr-� - ; 1
priVa ke
enterprine is 1poing
to be. patting thL diollars for this city.
Mr. Plummer: Mir. H.-.yor, I vould like to bring up now - Ohl
excuse me, did you want r.,ction Joe, cr do ye,,- just went a
report back,,?
Mr. Carollo: I want a re-tponse. A response that is over a
year due.
,Mayor Ferre: Well you don't want it now.
Mr. Carollo: 11,04t; now, 1 WLI-lt it in writing to each member
of thi--- Cote- i--,t�ion.
Mayor Perre: 11r. HunzLer, L Lu�L!Ucr of thits CotLnai-nsion has
asked for u report 6Aid ti rt-tpon--c irid would you please do
that Lt the conk Qnicncc�.
Mr. GLV-Y'. III-. COiltl-Lry to v-11itA bcun zjaid, we
have rr\ utel,ly L�u:o to yov., thit,t tht reu!ion
that you have uot V,,otten � i-ti UvuLu-1c k.r. London
had '-lot LiV01 UW tht ih1'0t-L4Ai01j, c-,vollo,
Mr. Curollo: H, r . G Ll- Y , Fr, . tondo.: has btL-n uure than
willing Lt. &hY titLt to Wtet WIth Ztbf-f' Lrid in fact, he has
Id
August 16s 1984
A�
taken hours of his time In the vn-t to inqn-Ir, itAff. I
am sure ghat; If this Cornmis".1on wmijid him to come
before th I:i body oneAr" P i n n h e? WO I) I d Pro v I d e any
information that striff vlinb,--11
6: AUTVO-7117T, URTAT Z-i,Arfwu-�P, -io P,7Pn,?wT,: 'novinG 01F PALM
TRFE� TV nAWPIWIT PARK, TrI 01PRI)FR To, rFrZMJT A JOINT
VERTfIRE nFTHEFF TRE 0R-Ar-C-F PM14L COMMITTEE AND THE
PROMOTEn"I OF THE HIA"U GrIAND PrUT.
Mr. PIUMM-Cr.- fir. Mayor, !,Ic have -) rcqucst Jointly from the
Orange Povil Coon, I and the Grand PT17, ThO 13011sf- Plan,
which hnn been approved by this CommIssion, shows the
movement of some of the Inndsonping In nnyfront Pnr1c, namely
some paln, trees, thnt, stnnd close *to tbo Their
proponnX is thnt thoso treoi would be rr-noved to raostly
behind the Torch of Friendship ns n- brnakdrop nnd the rest of
them would be moved bnek ione 30 rect. 11r, tinyor, if that
can be riccomplinhod now, the Ornngc Botil commitit".0-c' and the
Grand Prix enn jointly go into n vonttiro for blopchcrs which
would S-WO both cntities n arest deal of noncy. T. think
that prediented on the rnot that it. J,-3 propo.,Icd in the
Rouse, that: It i-Totild bo done, thnit thin Commission give
approvnI, t:o it b(1-iDF-, donc send both entities con enjoy
this yonr Im jrnury n-nd in Fobrunry n great; r a s n v in for the
g I
purposcs of he c 1) 1 (,,- c 1) c r is in order, Mr. Mayor,, I
would f'-'Ovc -t7o-l) (1).Jr,
mayor F( r r
T 1. 6
vould nsk that you
vith the nast(-.,.r plan of the
gencrt1,
d -Ind fit opo—cd by both the Rouse
'7
anti Not'vebol.
Mr. FlurimcrQ
!1i1A)()iit question,
[Sr. Mayor.
Mayor Farr c-
Dktqy, I,-
there a
accond7
Mr. Do wk i n-,r,! .
"11 (-:- c o ri dl .
Mayor Fcrro: Farther dio-cus-sion? Call the roll.
The following raotion was introduced by
Commissioner Plummer, who moved its &doption:
HOTION NO. 84-948
A MOTION AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE
CITY 14ANAGER TO ARRANGE FOR THE MOVING
OF PALM TREES IN BAYFRONT PARK IN
CONNECTION VITH BAYSIDE TO BE
ACCOMPLIS13ED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE IN
ORDER THhT THE ORANGE 11-30VI, COKH11TTEE AND
PROMOTERS OF THE HIAKII GRAND PhiX CAN
ENTER 11141TO A JOINT VENTURE FOR USE OF
BLEACHERS USE.D IN CONNECTION VITHA THEIR
EVENTS; S*1'1k.ULLT1NG THAT THE PLACEMENT
OF THE PALL TREES TO 13E HOVED SHALL HE
IN tCC0RDt1CL V ITH THE MASTER PLAN
SUBMITTED 13Y NOGUC[31 LNID hJ!-F-jiE-QE1i11'ATIVES
OF THE 1--,' 0 U S, L, C 0 I-1i P A It, \11 .
Upon being Lecondtd by Dawkins, the notion
W83 passed and adopted by tht. following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Hiller J. Dawkins
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Id
51
August 16, 1984
"A
Vice' Mayor Deno et
erlo .1 m Perez, Jr
Mayor llpuriap A. Frrrr!
NOES: None.
ABSENT:
7. CITT PARTIcarATION In THE MIAMI
G RA KID r P-,, ,K>� TO VIE C-177 PArzAGER FOR REFIF-GOTTATIOM AND
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Mr. Plum-mcv-,. Hir. Mnyor, thn. ,_jecond part 1^7 not in Ithc form
of n grsnt of noncy, but n proposnl that X could nnk to be
sent to the tlanngcr for nenotintion. T jvivr, discuised it
with hin. one of tho biggest probloms that In cxperienced
by the Gv*,)T,.d prin Is the in -hind sprifices I �Tonit got into
it nt this partioulnr point-,, but It IS n vinble proposition
that the Cityr v7ho Dom receives 10% of gronst uould tnhe and
pick up n port i.on -ki on of the innd horviocs and piek, up nt, the
end n Larger p--rcont-ngc of gross- . I I ^oulct as t-lint that
proponition be sent to the Hnnngcr for r, oa-,ntintion. I have
discussed it tlith hing he r,, n ys it in interesting
convcrsvtonr and tic r-ould like to explore it, if the
Commis*11.,-.. it to bin in principle. If that is in
order, UT, Nnyor, I "Otile, 10 nOVO-
Mayor rr, e
Tr 1:1oorr r,
rcoond?
Mr.
second it with
thin
additic,-,
1 icV,
nit' i n, n Vc r ,r 'o
come
b a c I i,-
hol,
o. f t, Iq (.1, j- y
can
j ve orin
give
$300 00(
pn.-j v r C
On
to
14r.
3 a n c 1) c
T, V
Mr. 1)ut, even
this iri iJjc ) (I V', 1'7 6Cs 11 e City
then vh.t. VC, uld 1,,;c- r-)ut"C"J'Sic{-Iic or two.
I would offcr 1 'G- u h t'� k! c c c 0 1, c (14
Mayor Ferre: Further discus-siort, cC.3.3 the roll.
The following notion 119al 3 introduced by
Commissioner Plummer, who moved its doption:
HOTIOK NO. 84-949
• A MOTION TO REFER A PROPOSAL MADE BY
PROMOTERS 0 1-7 " THE 1-11 & 14 1 GRAND PRIX
CONCERNIK'G THE CITY'S PARTICIPATION
FORMULA FOR IN' -KIND SERVICES III THESE
ANNUAL EVEN73 TO THE CITY 144412AGER FOR
NEGOTIATION AND FURTHER REPORT TO THE
CITY COMMISSION.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Dawkins* the motion
was P933ed and adopted by the followina voto-
Ad August 16, 1984
52
A 1*
AYES: 'Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Ab Commissioner T.L.Plumm�*rJr.
Vice-Wiyor j)pni-Allrio Perez Jr,
Mayor: hnuric-- A. Ferro
NOES: None
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
PORT ACCESS BnIDGE AGREEMENT.
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�i
ndvertently left off an addendum
Mr. Gery: rr. 11P.,yory I lnc�
to the vqjr,:,cr,r:nt. vyitln Hirnlmnrinn A,3socintera
fir. Plurmc, I novc:, it - xfvc rcvd it
Mayor Ferre- Y,-,- tlicrc ri, vccond on Its 4?
Mr. Dawkins: Seeond.
Mayor Ferre: Further dlsot_nnoiori? All right, call the roll.
The following rePolutioy) tins introduced by Commissioner
Plummer, who moved it.-, -,m1or)t.5,o;n:
1111"S01,07,TON 1110. 84-950
7
A RESOLUT-A"01", 1.U-17HORIZING "HE CITY
MANAGEr", T 0 t . EXE C111`
" , A Ia KIENDHENTj
SUBSTA!KTIfiLLY IN F01311 LTThCHEDv TO
THE AGREEKEHIT VITH 11ETROPOLITAN DADE
COUNTY FOR TRAUSPORThTION IMPROVEMENTS
TO PROVIDE ACCESS TO THE PORT OF IiIhMI-
(Here follows body of rem.olution, omitted here
and on file in the 0j'fice of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Como m issioner Dawkins, the
resolution was 1°,a_,,sed and Ldopted by the following vote -
AYES: comini-,,ition or 11,111er J, Dawkins
Commuiasioner J. L. Pluumnier.- Jr.
Vice -mayor Demetrio J. Ferez, Jr.
Mayor Haut -ice A. Ferre
NOES:
ABSENT;
Id
1-,,' o r, e ,
Commissioner Joe Carollo
August 16, 1984
53
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PITA 7,
Mayor Frr-=---
Mr GP s r y F r 1-a^ inst.,rt;otIonn of t he City
te--,�np' er' to ncgotlilf� n o-ormproville with Mr.
Go�u I d Thr� 171'&Jnl comproni-sc "ns no-IZ-, c2omploto:!d bpi ore ,.
welly the iJlit9,-11 (107-prOnlnn nddrn-1111-d 131n i. Luc thAt Mr.
could 1);'d 1)nocr eon-Ad-rntjon, nno thnIC. "ns hnniv,-01y that
he would l,r t. Win im-tt hr, r -,o Pi ot
ol, t, Th rt r,�� n n t v rt- of
Miami Cnntc-Ir I n-nd Ph.rinn X.J. Under rhasc Tt which
is bnsicnlly dons not. v-oq;jIrn t1r, Gnisld to pive us
the rlght-of�,ny doe' the Wurvntorl rnrn.p, It, in, r(,quired
under Phnsn, 11, and only nt the t1mr that tir Gould seeks a
permit to reap t. h n brne fit n of the I I I n- n , I Center I
developmcnt, "bleh riesns that Mr. Gould do Onot h rn v a to
give us the, Xnnd until tic, birlenlly br_,pjnf1 eonstruction of
Miami Con'll'or 11, and t-rn lcnom the: p�roblcnn of iota occurring
within tho tine frnrc of the Fedornl nnd Stntf, rfquirement3
for then oxpendituro of the funds that have been nppropriated
for the bif"rented rnmp, and that; in likelihood of zero. In
our firmt, rccti;ig, i-itth Mr. Gould, Mr. Gould snid that he was
willing to give up the land thpt the Stntc- ipd,d is needed,
and that tic v-,Pre, lnsis'Linry, that he give try, on the condition
that vie 01020 off Enst 3rd Streit, r-nd 'tic, rlso rpnid that he
would give un ttio floorq of his Scarrge office complex for a
convention oxhibition f,noility. At thntt; nectInf,; was Mr.
Goodkni�,!-.':, of T).Q.T.P Plty nY Ptnff and ny-scUp and Mr.
Gould and hi_-: nttornoy' '17D.C; IT,- 4J,-0 111rd repre--entnt, Ives- from
the City fAt-Aforrcy1c", olU5,0r. Ufc- t-hrt ncctJwt rith the
v c f-) t i i (A y `A)c- plrr, nnsd that
17, k, C, 1 (7 0 , C us e
we t,7oul.(7 r
southcr -.17 C,, 0 T
a g r C, C, d
1,i 6 1,
Ce, v n, t Y
Tr ar) %,j-ioi 'oir,
00mc 6.
Ming that; il� i lj(t 1,(
_MEE a mi (":j
felt. 1-7yA
iL, Gu C(T C
Quint 1 y-
the 1)5.f1 vc.,, It"(- 6
11, v o f the
b 1 f u r cd r,,,:rp. Y 116
Kr. Go ol, 6 ,:",,d h(: L,-� ("t d d I 111 Lugust,
be."ore I
15th, crid I In r; v 0 U 1. Q by I t! - t t,"riday.
We did not yet u; j.trlapo:nl; uc evIled Hr. Could uC. vi,n. ter.
Gould finally gave u.n in, proposal. Ba-rically, Mir. Gould's
propo3al states that we would eliminate his requirement for
the expenditure of $429r000, approrimately $430,000 for
street improvements; that the bay fronT, area the val,k-ways
would be transferred from Pkicmi Center I to Hliami Center 11;
three, that the 111ami Center 11 development order, which
calls for a residential tower be chvrired to an office tower,
and laBtlyr that the Southeast 3rd Street should be closed.
In terms of the of the fOreiving of the atrect improvements,
we are oppoted to t h n. t recoLmendLtioq . it v, o u I d be
appropy, iate for the City COIL-114A z- te ion to con "%i der however, as
an alternLtive, 3iticc it & lg e L 1- 8 that V.r F Gould has
financial Lnd probLibly does Uot 1ILVIC L-Otley to do
the $43,0,000 thLit tt"Lat roqull-cuent be
r e0vulI&I'A runnint"�with
the land, iand tl-IZA vc- U--(! L,0116tto do thit, \'ith
quarantee of t.u, to tj1c bead, uilj)t, that
Mr. Gou 1 d N� �- uo u j,.L_ d t c) Q c7) ttit t U i tt.ir n inch
the re--ident1e.l'tea L,4Efjce tuj,,�:rt; E I
to Mr. Gould,tht,.t tl--Z&t woul ht& ��,!Juf it
even though it ci Y Co., 1,_* ble
E_ t L , �__ - ioll Is
Overall Soal at bringing ret�id'er-its into dowjjto��,1-1. V�jtjj
regard to cl0sin9 off S.E. 3rd Street, our position is that
it should not Le closed.
Id August 16, 1984
54
4
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Manager, I accept all of your
recommendations personally. I only have one alternitive
that I would like to qdd. Bn-sed on the premise that Mr.
Gould hns offered ij.m two floors should we, rwor need it,
becau-se I boi)n that tlint "otild nnve*r oneijr,. benenusr' it is my
opinion t.hnt onrc -r)f the, propo.,wiln thnt. nrr� being
offered to tho HAIsm-4 'Torl'_n And E-11hibit-3o'n Authority v, o u I d
eventually breonn r, rnnlity. ro It "ill b- noot., But
.N - P
should these bc n rend for lion two tJoorn, whit I mould
like to dot 19 liou Of clos-inr,, 3rd ".3)trcr'11._ In to give Mr.
Gould or the o�innrr of both of thoso loth, In cnnh, inge for
two full, floors, of spneer the nir right: over thn street,
provided hov,--evrr,, t1int it be nbovp i4hPtnvnr rnq"ire-.nent-q are
needed for the purposes of pndostriin, vobiculnr, and people
mover nyntemn already in c-Aistence where it 13 under
con ,struction. tjov;, "ould thst be acceptable to you?
Mr. Gnry: Von, Pir.
Mayor Ferro: 1 pr, roady to vote on it, myself.
Mr. Plummcr: loots nre Haying close the street?
Mayor Ferro: i%`oF n1bSolutoly notl
Mr. Gn r y thn, air rights ntrove the transportation
people rovrr,
Mayor Fcrr( !F"o c
"G r r c "G > t I c n v o
the :_,,,t.reet3 open •
5 1
Ease
clor'llro of
r 0 C t? In the
f i r n t,
1•o hrlvc
1-, 1) 3, h. r inn
We jv"�� 7
I r
11
n C C, g a
r i ght C I
moot
cl osi 1-) 1"
0 1,
o! I n r tho
r i S h I",
d
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i
should 1,'r 0 1 "1
r rj-1, i il
c
con (i i-) c t'i o i i ic- 1,; r o.
p i y- III) o (',v
for
havinG, g' 11 up i, is r
r S t: (.'r r r (.',i
1'( 1, 11, d C t
those tuo floorr. for fi I
. 00, or u, I i t, c v c r
Mr. Dav*kins.: lrhat did you -ay you z,,,rc (;oinr, to do about
Mumber 3?
Mr. Gary: That we utilize our highway bonds to make those
street improvements on condition that a covenant be put on
the land for Miami Center II. Let me explain why I am
making thin recommendation.
Mr. Plummer.- Vhy on 11 instead ot IT
Mr. Gary: Ukeczruae I 1_ uthat 114-11"icy are foreclosing on, and we
are not going to cot any money out of that. We are 30 far
down the line. UC LV'C PUttilllff it on the value. The only
value he has ritiht now, thc L.,Ly I perceive it, is on Miami
Center 11, whl�ch is not under foreclosure.
Mr. PluLi-.;cr.- It in, out even built!
Mr. GL-r�� - L"�ut thL; IL-nd 1:� thQ
The ILUd, OU 1"0110r.� UhLt I L-1a
(TAPE T)
Mr. lllui_-ii:cr. YOU CkV-U
doesn't The IL-n'd eLi_-t_-' Lull'
not tL I Lt .
Commissioner Plummer.
Cet-tttr 11, rind that
K 1. L ta, i C t ri t � r I I does
Mr. Gary: you don't underztand what I are _-ayjng�. I am
putting a covenant on the land that is within Miami Center
xi.
ld August 16, 1984
55
Mr. plummer: That is not what you said.
Mr, Gary: He has got to RRt-fm, well, that is What I
meant. it in on t`!v-. lnnd� The nnvf*npnt running with the
land.
Mr-. Plumllr! T"n Ir to thPt7
Mr. GsryVo,--ot
lie gave his proposal. We are
'. 1n in n.
telling yaij -ebnll �r- wan", to respond to It.
Mr. Plurnrwicr,. Ohl
Mayor Ferrn.' 1.00, k . . .
Mr. Gnr Y, ric tell you what, Mr. Mayor, please, If I
may. J, (4, � .. n n toll you why I want to use our highway money
now, to da the improvemcnt5 nnd put' It on his land, which is
under lllriml Center 11 - bnenonze we nry going to hSve n- major
problem "itb S-oothAn,-t Bnnk and nil of those other buildings
downtos-7n, IT 191hose strects ire ;-Aot, 7-MPr0vcd, Commissioner
Dawkins. y J)nve. highvinlr loond rnonce-y,, "hick I enn do, for
that, nmcl because ry vr-Jv.n j^ protect sd on the 1,1-ndr at
least I don tt enure n problcinn for n1l of the innOcc-n`V. people
Who will be nffr-,oted - Southcn-sll'; and rill. the ether husine3s
people, nn i-sell ^ tijc p(-,oplo v1ho hr�.v(- got to drive on those
streets. And plum too, -*t-,.h.-,t nnkos rc n11-0 not Give
Southcnsvt. r t-,rjy 01-1t, '-hrv, I)Pvc, dot t Ps t. sonsmoney
4c- inve got 14-o do
In for tho.,:n t7ert ir-, P r 0 vC-P C n, f70 r
our pnrt. (3: knov, you il.l. 00 a 0 I' -v i� eve got
coo ot.-Ir PI-rt , P't least
to do thrlr p,7rt, 1),11 Irc "IA-0
Gould hn,: tn 04) h�r
Mayor ro,,-rel: Am,- ItS,
Mr. Plurnmer., yc�r i t no ua F-I question. Mr. Manager,
is the foreclosure 01) UJIM4 Center I only, or on Miami
Center and t.J,je Jjnjd Trigs of Gould?
. Mr. Gary: I dont? knovj-
Mr. Plummer: t`cilt I think it is very importantl
Mr. Gary: I agree.
Mr. Plummer: Because I don't want to give up my claim on
Miami Center I and completely vacate that, even if I have to
take a percentage on a dollar, where I can still hold claim
on Miami Center 11, if it Is under the same umbrella.
Mr. Gary: het its t,,, legitiripitbo question.
Mayor Ferre: I hc-ve been throuri,.h that, and you are going to
get "zip'! on the dollar.
Mr. V- I utr Vc11v r- it-tL,11dtriucht now, wle are doing to
get "zii)"
Mr. GLry.- t6 jot,(.. r
you zirc --c-ttinr,
policy
and
perimeter.ta, u, ot-i which I
czAl
L 0 bLck U) Ht'.
CoUld
Cn.
Obviou.-ly therc Lrc
othcr
thLt
huvL- to
be
askedt tj-jjAt ca.)v lou-iy wc
didn"
Jr, 1.Z V C it
jILLi t think
has
been hapjptriivig �-G CUich -
011AL
Ue hLVC- to LfIbWeY-, r�aid that
is ovic- 0i" it or,
luoth of the properties.
If it
is,
then it doebrilt LLIle to Lo 01-1 11. Do you
understand
what I Lai., z;L-Ying'i
Mayor Ferre: Well, let me tell you something.
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August 16, 1984
Mr. Plummer: Yes, but let me tell you w1int, P-1-se doesn't
make sense, Mr. GAry. The prop,erl.y t1int tho Sit -Ate Of
Floridp nepds. from ny wndpritnod tj�Pt (--oA)m, In not willing
4- r, only for n lane
to g I. vp n1r. th I.-, p A. r '%J ci 1 -1 r
to npry I e
ft
Mr.
j
I
I 1�tlljl tn1k to you
r-
Mr. Gary: 'Fo, tchn'i'l !� rna t. corrp-,et, and I will talk to you
about It.
Mr. r-lumn-r -. it not correct?
Mr. Gary: mo, -ir-
Mayor Ferro: t1r. Gary, let me tell you that as a
practitioner, and observer of very complicated real estate
transrietions for 30 yn.srs, I predict that jomcdny Wien you
are ro longtr-r n city n.-Iniger, you are going to be n 'very
weal "(, -by rl,,n IS vou, q-tick to rcn) eststc trrnssctionn, but
let me tell. yoi,j that 11r. Gould nay be nmnrt, hu-1-1 I Whisk he
has met his match, nnd I understind td),at, you sre dolAnr_, and
I commend you for your ImpgInntion and you have got -my votel
Mr. Dawkins: I vote on 2 and 3. 1 am not voting on 1 and
4.
Mr. Gary: Cnn I sit down and ...
Mr. Dawkins: No, you should have set down with me before.
Why do you always have to sit down with me afterwards?
Mr. Gary: If I ...
Mr. Dnwlins: Why do you always sit down ...?
Mr. Gsry: Well, first of all, Commissioner, let me just
explain it. A lot of things have been happening very
Quickly,
Mayor Fore: Wait, wait We will tale out,l 'Go lunch and
that will ...
Mr. Gary:
Yes, take him out to
lunch. I need to ttike him
out to
dinnerl Co=issioner
Dawkins,
to those .. I
shouldn't
be apologizingt but I apologize
for Mr. Gould. It
basically
happened so quickly,
and I am Just trying to
protect the city'-; interest, end
we have
been doing things
the lost uinutc, bcotiuse, a
lot, of
things have been
.at
happening
at t1he last FAnutoc-
Mr. Dawkins): Did ho- discun-5 this, with you, Commissioner
Plummer? L)jd 11c, thi-ti, with you, COMMi33ioner Perez?
14 r . G L� r y lie ib undertLidlUE-1
Mr. FluL�xzt�r: V1 L 1"L t 1 1. fUlleral directort
Mr. DL%,,kirin: LA)t YOU three people up here ...
Mr. ti,e jL—t Lot t1j,- CoL.1, .0 er Dawkins,
today, tj'jj-,, L.01-NiDC, L110-1 %c- L:rc tryir4rto protect our
inter-c-6U., tic '0)-t: r1l the (t b"l- If " ()1! - i= ire Lrld foreclose on
him, LNd t"t iJut out W nu-Lcr 1000 C111 tilt; li:At Let Le just
S&Y Lb0LIt tilt OffiCC tCwt.r. 01 b- V 1 o L) -,- 1. y
Mr. Dbuk"In--
1, don't
ctire
&--b-Out it - I Wtal-j YOU V,,Uyb are
3atj81*j#z-d with
it. I
sL-y I
bw not voting. if you got three
votes, you don't
need
met
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August 16, 1984
57
Mr. Gary: Okay, if I might, Commissioner DawRins, I am
looking down at the third step nowt if T might. Please hear
me out. I am trying to protf!et the City's Internit.n. The
second sl-'Pp is, If Mr. Go;ild bn-n In 1111s pon"PS-r-1-1071, "IthOut
any eon=lnf;rnt 11 .b A I J, t i nn , or `any for-�(-Jonllrnq --)n Miami
A� A- 1-1 -
lv— P I perceive
Center 1,T 1-indr -hpf, in I -A onn 0111 �nrenlq
t, h a II ri r - Go tj 1, d djo-s 63nvc no opt-jc)r- tT%rit b-
and that -,hn rcnzlon
f ^ t4 no, ..� thjs offlec building
here, boentmr-- it it. more n.-ilabIr. to bin. she extent
it nakes It morn nalsble� 12"o him in the qUICkcr tht wee can
get soma developnnn't" on thcre, nrid t-In Rnt, tbv. ex-hibition
center, ind everything is; cicno- so that: Is thit third
phoic thnt I nm looking Ott.V-1th rr-g,-,rd to POv -ision four,
on four. I dinagrec, v4th hir, an thazt. tily four snys that he
h a a to d 0 Dn %Y Wn I R I nr, no', -�nrc-oinf-
t. - -, t-fith hi
Mr. Dnwkir,:75; onn hn. do thn .-Finy 14,0,1z i,,,ben he has no
money??
Mr. Gsry,, Voll r then Comm, in s i onc r r that gives me my
leverage, 0%sy? And that mould not affect Southeast. The
streets rill.
Mr. Davlki-nF: Let me rusk rov o qv,cstion- If you just got
this thi- norning, bovi did 4-rou Jiur,"" r 0,- d,digest it, and
Come UP C-11 of thi- thy Dovof'
Mr. Grrv., For thc Tr o -Jot, of m-tose things were
Jn ovv vhCn
Mr, DC1Afl,*,jn,s-'- [i I i I i;, I i i f I V, 0 1 0 0 0 ot them with u31
v
Mr. Gary: I I', b olli, n o v r r, t ient me
over — p F, (1 G 1'F(Ja6 not. your in the
mere f,,,c s th,,- r( h"; fl cot"ir. 1, 1 p 115th, tile
I
D*OeTt, r
( J -
particn 1, tiv c 1%, 6 t o
You
Seconeil,,-"`, 1. n ft on
Mr. Davlin. 11r. Garyt I tn.r� c.-oinr I , to tell yc)u 1--or
hc I st
time. I LU going with you, tnd frol nou Oil V"'hen You
Come up
with stuff like this, I an going to call the rule
of four.
Now, it is up to you to figure out how to Ittcep
me from
calling it, nir. See? Hout I understand, and I
am going
with you becauso I understand that it is a hell of
a job we
are doing, but I get tired of - now this cargo, 1 t
can 1, get
stuck uritht but when it comes to Park West and the
other3, I
get shafted, okay? BaysidcI don't get what I
roe rat, but
yet, every timie I vote, I &,n voting, rafter the factl
�
Mr. Gary: covit-ni.-.nictier DL�vkin--, to rat. VIhen we
first tallled to him, On Item 1, th&t not Ln in -sue, Okay?
We did not tLlk 4bout hi clang inc thut. Oi ltct� 2, S. E.
3rd, we did tLill- to him about it. oil Itc3, tut wan rio
t
an issue„ IU-4 WL6 tlOt Lri otily thjof,� vc- talked
6
0 w h a t YL a. p 1) e n U d wher) he got
about iteu 2, 01,CLY?
into he addL-d item 1, 3 Laid 41 to the Picture to
try and bL-ii out - You &1&.V VI-WL I U4 :3LYiUC.7 IS5 C) , We
didn't tLIk Lbout It 3, and 41. V(; only tallcd c.-bout S. E,
3rd Strctt elo6inc- ThLt UZi-- the of tht bifurcat�;d-
Mayor Ftrr(,,-: Lvc wc reLady to vote Viiat iti the will of the
majority of' thc
Mr. Bill Col,on- J-r . l=<i yar, did you ask for comment? Mine
will be vtry quick, it' I tuay.
Mayor Ferre Go ahead.
Id August 16, 1984
Aa�
Or
Mr Col son I don't want to nit bere And an by the
opportunity If tbor., in Anynntr, thpil ban Any Drobl!m thnt is
on the Conni, 11.,,% ton ;-.h- r-innge.-r , s recommendation tbAt S.
E. 3rd tlir-ij T would like permission to
addre.-in ;nil for V) m3niil.-n-
Mr Pn v0ur in nzv�, problem s4ith 2.
Mr, col" -an: I flnn"t llhin!, nnyornp doers
Mayor Ve�rr(-. f, nlnvtf^. 1-Illm it is now 7:20 P.M.
Carollo bn-7% to le�nvr-, -.3,Fhf. PoH, r-nd n-11 I am saying, nobody
here wsnt- to elon4n off 3rd Strof�t-..
Mr. DnKII-lin-11, Nobody A� g,,oln- to elosp It.
Mr. Colson; And I don':. v n n t tt sny nnything. I say, if
anybody hl-s got n que.,stion nbout it, then I want to speak.
Mr. Dawkins: No one hns.
Mayor Fcrre; All I T,,ould itice to do is son, rzhat we can you
know, strrt olivnbing thn 1,,)dd(,r bern T-11c have got four
issues. T undorrt-ind you- nrir for tv;o n-nd against two,
right?
Mr. Davkinn: 1 1-.7111 go with n1l of it.
Mayor Fc-rro,: You mill go with the Manager's recommendation?
Mr. Dare) -3,nr.- Yes.
Mayor Fcrre: Are we ready to vote on this? Are you making
the motion?
Mr. Dawkins: Yes, I make it.
Mr. Perez: I second.
Mayor Fcrre: All right, there Is a motion, there is a
second. Further di ncussion on the motion of the Manager's
recommendation r-mended on the quontlon of the air rights
and what hcvc ��,rou. rl-cr�.dy? Crll thr, ro-11.
The following rz o, 1("" 110 r, t,f (,: " 4'n n t T - o 6 L x c c d by
COMMi33ioner Dawkins, uho r--,.ovc.d IA' a celapC'1011:
1-10TI041 110. 64-951
A MOTION TO ACCEPT IN PRINCIPLE THE
RECOMMENDATIONS NUMBERED I THROUGH 4
CONCERNING THE BIFURCATED FLOW AS
OUTLINED 11Z t KIEHIORANDUK SUB1,11ITTED TO
THE CITY COHMISS10111 THIS DATE.
Upon being --econded by Cornmi--n-sioner Perez, the motion
was passed and 6doptcd by the following vote -
AYES: Commiasioner Joe CLrollo
Commissioner` Miller J. DLv1tin3
Vice-HLyor DcLletrio Pcrez, Jr.
Mayor 14"-urice A. Vcrre
HOES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
ABSENT: worle.
ON ROLL CKLL:
Mr. Plu!.=er. Thi& City has been taken before by this
project Lind I Just feel this is a continuation of further
taking this City I vote "no".
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59
August 16, 1984
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Manager, I votp "yes-, and T. want to
express. - - � - R -T thinIc knouTing ) Int ibniit Y4-nl, r'-qtnte, gives me an
appreciation of tbq -ay you hrndlc7-(I 1.1-_ -it i2- -I (Iiff irl,)lt
propositi,on. Tmci_;-1 Al Irn ronre'rn-0 'I'thni-OV, vVia- I-gnlities
of
.7 4 -- - I - J) it Tj jnjCj: " n ,,j j'�I 1. if yrii Tv ,"r' a::o -ork
out th?- of tfin ( -i -1 -1 q
1, '71 M nM er
Wilt: in
works. t_ha-n mi"'Uh,
�j 3
I rpuff-F PAGF-ANT.
10. isfitsDISCUSISIOr-I
CHANGE A"OUPT T() TAVAT MAPAGER IIS PERMITTED TO
S FAn CT FOR VU-StE PAG
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Mayor Forre., fir, chnirnnn of the Host cormlittOr--
Mr. Fong acrninor: mr. linyor rnd I didn't
invvnt- tlio is ,,�kcd long with
Univ-ernic Conteqt.
?4r. lhr-ison to ncFotiVnte the, bast possible don), for the City
of Hirini or thn tremor Hinni I;ost corr.nittnor in bringing
Miss UnIversc .-nd tlins� T(,-cn U.S..A. and flirin O.S.A. beefs to
Miami. I nra only the Cntcnnion of tile City of 115"?,mi. My
heart i:l vith the City of Hinni. I hrive been nskcd by the
City, or T'An�;11; nn(I nill of n ruddcnt th.0 City of Miami
-11'r , Hiss
doesn'tftPor rcl I-Ic fv'�"In co��-tcn llr� Gl"'Inscer and t
P - �, I 1�_ 1) h i C -1 C) -) 'I
Univerr,c-, pf-0, I(- 4n 'QVI). 711CY 11�,VO T-PVO C t, t') � I tr I Ot to
, r -J), if hlrvc, brovght us
Us.
the f,"_vr- eor-1 il.,-CnI, of 1"'10 000 n year
IL
5- this .
Mr.
Eith(;-In 1,C lit going to
IJ am
be r,
I n 6 ��T 11 d g 0 full
W 111 i n F,
specal, (,:Ilc-,6� ()_'J, ITI k o -r 1,6 a r, n tic get a
better 61c
Mr. 3. n Ivc got rj prob1cu Irc on the first
page.
Mr. Caroiloo. it is not the contrnet. I am saying, Mr.
Mayor i�, in approving the funds So they could have the
authority for the Host Committee to sign it.
Mr. Plummer: Monty, according to this, the pageant can move
the Pageant from this facility- See- thnf'- there?
Mayor Ferro: Let me tell you Something. This is a contract
Mr. Odiohave you sc on this contrLct before?
,
Mr. Odio; Yes it every word of it.
Mayor F',erre: 11r. 111cnnaCer, 1 (,:ueSs now to you - are you
recom-nending thib? it sectas to uze that we can't vote on
this contract.
Mr. Gary: *Eiticy ju.,4;t CL,v(- it to Lie, Maurice.
Mr. Cdlo: Let Le CILl'ii-Y UILt question. COMMi33ioner, the
reason thLt
(INAUDIBLE BhUG111OU1111)
Mr. Odio: ThLt cji;�u-_e I L-,bked theru to put that in, because
we might not bt able to have the same at the Knight Miami
Convention Center in 1986 because of prior commitments with
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60
the University of 11jami feitivAl and others, so we want to
leave it open so we can pick the alto thn�t they would Agree
to.
Mr. Cnrollo. Mr, Trainor, whnt Is it that wr, nr!�d lk.o_ do to
go phppd vlth tbi_m?
Mr. Trsinorz V,,�, nf%4nd for the City Commission to Incren-ne
the e o m. m A t nt from, A-100,000 to 2250,000 for the City
1, Manager "Lo 1,700f "Ith us wand to bring thn "Ims Universe.
Mayor Fcrre°: At the City Manager's and the City Attorney's
di3err-A-Jon .
Mr. Trpinor: yes.
Mayor Ferro: They would have to approve it.
Mr. Carollo: I no nove the notion that we inorease the
commitme.ot. 1-.o 1.250,000, tiherens the City Manager would work
t.
JOint).Y ;`W) thr! City Attorne7-y v7lth, the president of the
Host CQT-nmittco., I
Mayor Ferre: But it, b;7,7- too hivr, tho City flanager's and ,the
City Attorney'n npprovini.
Mr. Dnv-k1,nr. And that tho City Attorney
Mr. Plur-iier: All rit-01tv let" rnic --sk this question. Is that
subject to n riGnod oontrnot7
Mayor Ferro: Of coursel
Mr. Plummer: A signed contract by the Pageant and by the
City?
Mayor Ferro: Of cour3el The Most Committee.
Mr. Plummer: The Host Committee, I am sorry!
. Mr. Trainor: The Host Committee
Mr. Trainor: If we get this commitment and you tell me,
then we vill zien it as the Host Committee and let the City
Manager ..
Mayor Ferre: Only if the 1-la gager end the City Attorney
approve it.
Mr. D a w 1k in s : Ltild in writing,,f And if it 15 in there,, a
clause th,',It in the event that for Some reas!on, the Pageant
13 not held here, that whon-ever the Host Committee gives the
$25OtOOO to thtfY Eivc it bLck to the float Committee, who
Will give it bLck to the City of j_,tjDj
Mr. Gary., if, I Liglit
Mayor 1'1'errc VVCt-Yb0d-1j_ 111 LfYt-Ccr,,,,(-nt on that? Monty?
ahead,, 114r.
1
Mr. GLry: 1i' I L4iO't, it CbCUWU,'- th-OULJI Wt- Lrc trying to
a 0 0 ow- t. v t hi Y1 L n t Want to 16, t 1-16
n e, C n w�ant to
opportunit,t t yet thc Y'L
city oi,,, i t r, C-4, this
- 11.
V,4rol-�1tu- to L�(A inn oll.vc-6, and is
basic��Ily UhLll Lt LNLAt�'. ILC� p) i L01
Now, I thIRV thvilt could be LCCOiLl,11-hed 1j' yC�u I�(; the
&UthOrity J�or 6fov- Lt to ritgotiLte (�'nd I u.tan We
along with utt City. J.ttc,-orL-,ey',I U,tj, Vy, G) & I I � b t (Z' r ¢ trams Pageant
people directly ... htar me out - that would bezii up those
two yearn with the contract coming back to the Cotaujit-isjon.
Id
August 16, 1984
61
Mayor Ferre: Not to blindly sign a contract that nobody has
read!
Mr*. Cnrollo; Not beck no, not to try to slRn n contract,
but, wn nr� tnlking Pt-�ovtl ncgo-'1i:mt1nR ngpl-n-
Mayor Fn.7, P0, "0' 1001f, Toc, yc-u nndn Folir motion, so
repen-T. Yonr rmoll�jop nnd' If Frt r, SCrOne), " "131 put it
to n Vote, A!t I- n o t 5 o -4) . you were
Butborl;JnP thn mnring,�r to nrp€Tld I)P 1-,o "x,2_50,000, provided
that be nn 1, �, City Attorne-�y, �,ri -riting, t 0 " 1) A- - o .
Mr. Cnrollo: Connur and npprovc thc contract,
Mayor Frrw-n: Th,"t is ood enough for mel
Mr. C P r ol lo Vot, for tbr, NnPnp,(-r to negotiate something
that hail n3rc-dy 'DI-cn nrgotint(mod Vio, that he can come back
and any 1`Look I (Ud. T neoonpli:�hcd thial"
Mayor Ferro.: Vor no, '-hc
Mr. Gnry,. t r. H en y o r r I rc,�eindl ny r ccornrn ends. tion
Mayor Ferro All right, Fov.nrd, Ictl- not j;ct emotional on
this thinr� 'th- 1nrijc
Mr. Orry: y rin not. (-:�ttJnr ,� c r 0 t 5 0 n,-, 1 1 nm trying to
acoorlpli-A) t-Alrat" tic ho
Mayor Forrc: find, yo*,,x liDot! is' i,,1,c thin is in your
U. r,0--ornev, you know that
hands, Md �r) the lisknds of th(,
all You hrEtv(, to do 1_1 to Say thc: matter is ... you
know . .
Mr. Dnvfkinn: Hadam City Attornoy, an the last page, B.2,
and 13.3, mould you interpret that for me, please?
Mrs. Douglierty: Well, I just got it, but B-3 I can tell you
that it lc, 000
Mr. DatakinS.: B.2 first.
Mayor Fcrre: What page are you on?
Mr. Last page, Mr. Mayor.
Mr. Carollo: tle trivdc ra motion lready, Mr. Mayor. I think
the motion in clar.
Mayor Perre: 1
11LIVc1l't V,Otterl � second. Is there
a second
to the Luotior)7
la there u
accond to the
motion
made by,
ttit E,otion,
1 vill repeL,t,
is that
the City
Manages tie.innttructcd to expend
up to �---50,000
oil
t1le FIJ33
U n i v e r ;-, e lit
U.S.A.., t<1
e v n zi g e 0y,elc.,
If he
tend the
City Attorricy,
ill uriting,
Lq)prove b(,,�forcn
the inonies
are
expendtd. TIIr;t
ia thCra ysI
under :toad the motion to be
made. 1� thcrc
u,
Mr. PereZ. 1 hLVU le(,-, ieccnd it.
Mayor For Ere, FLtV-tht:V
Mayor terra z Ftrep beccndtn. NO,, CoLt!.flbbioner Dawkins has
asked tt quebtion. Eau, out f a courttay to him,, he can
either withdraw the question, or if he wants it answered,
then the City Attorney
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62
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El
Mr. Dawkins: Answer the questions please.
Mayor Ferret Last pngeq B.2.
-
Mrs. A. . fir. I would like to start
wkth D.3, t-Av! ;Avnt. 1-s the most crucial to
13 -st yot� ionijld lose your
us
nu-e the
$250,000 if thPt' dr--010M, to ro Y
or F?v, a o-- the noney from ny
other plarer. nmd ,hnt 1-
,.t, J. r--, —w, "n visited Hitt the
Mans.F,c,r A rtbout nnfl thnt Is somcthing, that; he v'Isn't going to
be d t, L- I,;,, c, I - A, - � 0 - o b r� n - g, o t. 4 n t -n d It is something
totnily 101m,
Hr. Dnwkins: Okny novr flu mbn-,
Mrs. Douf,-,licrt., 1-1 e 11. r t- lin, 1. o n n. if the Pageant enters into
a coattict With PO- cbody- (-Inc
Mr. 1-!ith IF,hc, I-Ailrd party to host n Pageant the
host should L%n
Mrs r, "0 V I d- !7- t I C 3, 3- P% b 10
Mr. Dawkins: if I-11cy dcojoir-, to go o.orn-cplace else,, we are
still linh!0 fOr nPYt11i-,W 110 Prat-i-Sc"d 1A)Cm- Is that how you
intcrpi,,,�.
Ms. to
Mr. T1 o c, 1), lit rn f, cna is that how you
pp
M r a, r 'j cI c, �rrc not anything. It is the Host
Committee thvA, vir,-med it.
Mrs. Dougherty: Th a t i s ri h t .
Mr. Caron o-. They would be liabler not the City of Miami.
Mrs. Daugherty: Rut thcy, rould' be our ton e, .0n y.
rat" our moneyl
Mr. Plummer: Tli(��,-y unu`16 11c u-,]� 2r',0-0 0
Mr. Gary: If I under.,,-,, tcnid that r-,nd I i;ay be incorrect it
says "In the cvcnt Pageant into an agreement with a
third party to hoat... . 11 , 1 -0 tic Saying a third party other
than li-imself to hort it here?
Mr. Dawk i n s : I thought ...
Mayor Ferrc.: 111r. HLnEgcr, all we are doing is, since we
don't hare; L meetinr between now and September 6tht is
depositing in you the v.bility to conclude this; to your
satisfactien vgith your input and that of the City Attorney.
Is there furthu�,r discut.nion on thin vLtter? Call the roll.
The rolloving u 0 t i (, 11 14.1 b :4 introduced by
-r CL-vollo, vho Ljovcd ftt= a'optlon:
Commissionc 0
PIOTIGNI 1,0. b�-Q.�e
A HOTILOU LNI) I>IhECTING THE
CITY RAK'AGEII TO THL LKOUNT OF
THE lh,14LDIJ-.11 COH11,11THE111' IN CONNECTION
WITH 0L1T1-IW11-,G THE HISS UNIVEhSE/KISS
U.S.A./HISS 'I'LLNIAGE U.S.A. TO t,250,000
(THIS 140DIFIES M-84-944 PASSED
PREVIOUSLY AT THIS KEETING.) SUBJECT TO
id August 16* 1984
63
THE CITY MANAGER
AMID IF CTT'_k"
AT7 0 ri) M F Y
WORKING WUN T11F
r-311'.11VI-1
I
11077`
COHHITTFF TO ()nTA.TT1:
A :,TG57KF% CONTRACT;
SUBJECT T1,t) A P V � 0
A 1.-
0- 1 T
C. .7 1,,*O A G E R
AND CTT"- A T T 0
RIB:'.
T T G, AND
INS TPHICTT',76 TF
,7
T1,17 CITY
COMIT 11s: To N, 74
P,
CON, 1 RACT
FOR THEIR
FINAL f"TIFF110"IM'..
Upon bnlna :ltrrnn4re; by P�re7, the motion
was passed and �Oapt�d bl, follo�3,np vote —
AYES: Commisnioncr Jon, t nrollo
Vice—M.1yor rl�,rc7, 3r,
Mayor llnvirlor, A. Fr'rrn
NOES: Commissioner Hillor J. Dawkins
Commissioner J, L. Plummer, Jr.
ABSENT: None.
ON ROLL CALL
Mr. Dawkins: Not I think ...(INAUDTBLE)
Mayor Fcrro-: Yes. I feel confident that the City Manager
and the City Attorney will protect the best interests of the
City of Mir.ni
-------------------------_`----
Cly",A_7 Nrl,!-!AGER 7.70 COFVEY" 70 NETEO CITY'S
P iF 17!'TA� -jF1%F-,t-
IS u T r., P U S'JE.-r T T F17, V E H, U E
0' OF r. IT Y 0" NI AH I
iusi
Mayor Ferro: H; r
in Tell cn, of r,
it Was c, 6 o-v r n, r of
the"--)
�D i,-L oyl 0 0
nove ....
this? I v:culCi
-r-oo"trc n t y be
advised that the city c)f !,ji�,mi i r
t t i f 1 c, d with the way
they have Icon hLndling, I.D.B. t zQi d that they are utilizing
tax free monies to Tzove i7x2opic- out of the City of Iliarai into
the lanincorporated area, and I think that is totally unfair.
It is not the purpose of Lnd it _40 certainly doing
harm to this city.
Mr. GL-ry: 1 think your letter vzould be an appropriate
motion.
.Mr. Carol lo: So uOvedt Hr, Ha"Yor.
Mayor Farr : Okay, 1:5 there L- tccond?
Mr. Perez: Scoond.
Mayor Ferrtz, F-urtht�r di6cuabion? Call the roll.
The following tuotion was introduced by
Commissioner Carollo, who moved its adoption:
64
Id August 16, 1984
MOTION NO. 84-953
A MOTION DIRECTING THE CITY MANA(11F.R TO
CONVEY TO METROPOLITAN DADE COUNTY THAT
THE CITY COWIJTSST�QN IS NOT SATTSFTED IN
THE WAY PIETRO TIS ITANDLITTIG 7MIR DTSTRInUTION
OF X.Pjl � (INDTISTRIAL R-EVENITE BONDS)
IN THAT MSETRO 1-1-3 -j1jA1rsT,-,NTT.Y USTONG Tjill-1 ITIECHANISM.
TO ENTICE BUSINESSES TO VQVT OUT OF THE CITY
OF MIAWT TO UNINCORPORATED AREAS OF TITE COUNTY.
Upon brJng nneoqd�d by Commissioner Perez, the
motion was pnisnd and dopted by the follo"ing vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe C-,irollo
Commissioner 11111er .1. Dawkins
COMmiS,sioner .7. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice-Nnyor Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Mayor tinurice A. Ferro
NOES: None,
ABSENT: r3onp,
Mayor kerro: Ana Howard, that motion that you would have
3omebody in rtnff work with the Clerk's office, based on the
letter 1-lint. TT s drnftcd that I. nnilcd yesterday.
12. DIFIX.C!" 7-0 V(111i['. 1" F, 11, G DOUE IN
0
A r-s 0.1710E
SPPIGF� IX);-,
Mr. C r i - ci 3 iv f"- yc,�,v , o V-1 f - J. t. 16. 17"n 'IF) I 1, 3, V c
would lilc 't,o 11,sr,nz- "cf(
the only
When Cot- cddilk"lionk-1 when
commisSioncr Fluicaaacr Ifl-lixil Got- rdditiollcl offico --pccct it
W83 docidcd thtAo C 0 L=- i a -- i o 110 r 1`1 1 U r 0 f f i C C. u� 11 C 11 h 0
moved, would be divided betucen ray -self and Cc,,missioner
Dawkins. Ju--t this past vock, I ucs able to got the copies
of blueprints from the workers that they were coming in
there, when they. were going to start tearing down the place,
and not 'Lhe lenzt- bit of courtesy fro u thc 1-1anager as to
what the, final pl-.ri was Coine, to be for tine addition to my
office or Commiso-ioner Davzkinsl office. It i-t not, t-he even
the motter that I are the third oldest ueubcr of this
commisnion. It iS Just C ratttr of con=on courte-sy would
tell me that before a finol decision uas wLdc aL to how that
Office 1�i come to be. divided. The Hlanaecr -I-iould least
have hLd the court(,�y, if riot hitu!ielf, samit-one, from his
staff to bit down utith 1�zt to dccidc hOU thLt Office was
going to bc� c%ut up. I don't cLrc, LnLyl-,tlf. 11 fc-'ett, they
could cvtt-, of,;ricf.to nc in the for all I
care. I bxuly ecume to City licill
CO=i-i011 L(;(-,ti1-ir
1 Lat, too bra,-zjv uavkirlL,, but I d 0 cage
for my A-Lff LhUt 11L.k. to Uorll uridcr tliccotieni-tiot-i-a they are
workit,L, thLt 01-1 ClYlL Lidc, thu--�' LiLVQ 01C WC1111 -1i t&1-1iL-L ILY)at
they LI-L PLC-4rQ:',, L I I'd thL CfthLl� L26, th�,,' 1a-L%rc tht-� p��rking
lot* Land b(:hiLid 101CL 111 the ULV� thoe4 I Lr,c llwc--111L, to have
all th(; 1-otor-L f-cr L-ir CGI-IditiciliuL uikitn thzit try bizing
Ps d Fri .i'tl no t 0 it C-. I �
. Cx f' V j t r wher e
they C0010 � IL- t U cocllt uitct ilincI: into C, f f 0,411e
every other utraber of tjjj� CCLWI-`LiOtl hL6 filtNty of aLiple
space, 100kirle into test bay. V41Lt 1 UOUld 111,e to ask tay
0011ebaue* ib, that tht Kaniigtr be inatruetL-a to fired a
Id August 16, 1984
65
solution t b;v!6i.ez (-r), --
_,j- j"i r 1 -, -, - i -) �;-A n 8nd
myself, W11pr-. T)n !"I 1 11 n. rt- r� q 11 n I ,1-(1, r,
mayor
Commirzsir-n
ow,
nrz n7, JjF-, 1-1�j,"
probnh i-Y t13- mnn
T) t I-, y, q, C) T-7 n C- nrjl -)I) T ^ 1 1 r4hrn!7rz- s And
I ba-ve rf-nn qrr�1-7), Jni:r-1 I I)-Inqs become
T"iPlinq
vnen Y01A rzoinF to b1.(,,-,0-, and dl.el yolir bomework
you "0121d Ivlvn knovn "lint n drrvIsh J_n, An y-n v T thp, point
Of It r)ll I tlMt PeoPln bCe0;mf-- lnfurintrlx ov if tt e
things sueb Ps turf, I rcneribcr Wien: I scrvcd in
T a I In hn r. s e o7! p t, he b i R f1ght t4nP Is to vl)o of i-hrlt penirking
space, Pn4 thcro "ere t�rrlb),� flOts bntv;ecn Louis Wolfson
and Ken Plyrrs, nod Riohnrd PP1-,tJ,9r('v4 rnd thn, v'or�t of them
all "as Lr4� Foisonborn nod people would innult- nnoh other.
They "ouldntt tnjk for nontbs beosusn on(,-, rl;,Ijy got one
parking ,tpnec 10 feet. clor.cr to thr door than the Other, and
who got t4int J.ndou nod nil thnt. I don't knot-T how this has
to be work od out, but I think in fairness, it really 11,13 to
be work cd out ronchow. Po", 1 think tTc art nil involved in
this. I don't know hovi to t-,ork It out. Maybo nll these
offices ought to b-- Oonc2 by lotte.1-y of same sort and we do
it every two ycarn or every three years. It used to be -'I
will tell. you, ,, hon I cnmc here. . .
Mr. Gary: Or 175,cr-Mr-,yor
Mayor XTerrr,- 7 iip artting the worst desk. You know,
it usoci U3
of the Commissioners were in one
Office, r,)(,
i-na tj)e' best
desk, 1) c j (,)�n r d y 1) i7 (_1 it. 11 cl, 6(- k r, in
theyy
I %
)?,(J
crin'-'y R (:r:
1 0 (111 t
make n,,, 6"
0 f f i 1 t-. ol., i_,o c r.) i i� i, five
or nix yckri;a r (-fl o 1, think. wat,, Reboso
and ..
Mr. P I uma ti,, c r - frid Po So Gordon.
Mayor lerre: net Roac Gordonl That is it. That was one
hell of a fiehtt hnd then we ended up .. the way we ended up
solving it was that whoever was the Vice -Mayor had to pick.
So we used to have revolving offices. Plummer, you ended up
getting the short arid of that sticks as I reme-raber, one
time. When you ended up with a -:!rt, but it all
dealt with who was Vice-Hayor. WaS Wt that it? Remind me,,
Plummer, because you have a better memory.
Mr. Plum.mer: 7 171 C- V J C e -"Hayor was the back half of your
office. you nov, havc- it alll
Mr. Gary: night, rigiltj
Mayor Ferru. 14'o w , 110 W I
M r . P I u,-,, m c i - t That is now your turf, because we had it
before - thc Hzzyor had half, and the others had the other
half.
Mayor
Ftrrt: Mewl
but Manny tit � L-
JjttjL_ pic et. but
anyway,
1104 ut-1-1 it
worktd, P I U e r ,
lit'Dind, C- of it.
Didn't
t1te VJct_HLyoj-
I-L4�,e t1it, pieta of
Mr. Plutmer: Wo, tht only thing t1lat way rotbted, Mr.
Mayor, W&3 the office of the Vice -Mayor, which does not
Id 66 August 16, 1984
11
exist anymorZT; bn? n n u s e 1-1 h If of the Mayorts
office, And, tlint_ Is "here thn flglit cevnim, hvt.wrpn Reboso and
Gordon.
Mayor FIrrn: ^be didWt wint to Riv-P It 11P-7
Mayor Ana nhe^ �.-isnot_ Vlc741nyor.
Mr. rlumnrr: -iurzt jj.i�v sbc, doesnvt want to give up her
Commisslonr�r tnR todny, on Lh� fron'!C. of ber car.
Mr. Cnroll.o.- trqv-, r-,anyor, yoll jcpn, IT, n-m not. going to beat
around tho bllnb. 7 I dons t- enr� vohst kind of
space 1 linvc hers, ovon 10.f I don't, 11,lvc IMY sp-Acc, it
doesn't mskc thpt difCcrence to ncr ns -L Pm bnrnJ,y here
anyway I nm too busy i;orking, but c - n, r, t rT r to me
is the hind of r, p P, a ult,t, I m, rz,4'-, a f f n n d th marking rking
conditions that they Ivive to work tindor, and I am not going
to let. an individlunI "t;ho ltlhink;7, hn in n I-,Jn(,,- instcpd of a
city managcr abuse hin poj_i<,
,r tilf.,w;y he 11,1s been doing it,,
and not P-vcn r ;ivr- tho couriterlyp junt the. coma ors courtesy to
say "Here, those nrc the pinns that; t-rrc drawn" -
Mayor Ferre.- 11r. Cnrollo, viiiLhout ndjoctIves.
Mr. Gary: Mr. flryror, enrl I respond to that comment?
Mayor F(�rvc., yoty vcnny lirvc, to?
(TAPE 8)
M r . Gn r y Vr)lr, yoo g3rror=r you nlwnyz talk about the record.
Maybe
Mayor Fcvrc- Ur. Manager. Let's go into another
hal f-hovir
M r . Gals y ')J-) c t-s.,,umption is that the space is not divided
fairly or (-.(),WU,(-1)1yt and that 13 not the case. Each one of
I
them hrl 61,'� ,qvnrc feat.
Mr. Cr,,rc,',J0,n: I r,,m not asking about the square footage, Mr.
Manar
M r . G,_; r Jai T rr,,i i g: h t I didn't interrupt you while you
were ti-AbrJOILi, 11d likc to finish.
Mr. Caron o.- I just vant o oll-Urify what he is getting into.
Mayor Ferrer Go chead, Rovard.
Mr. Gary: I will send the Ilayor and Commissioners a memo
again.
Mr. Carollo: Eemind me to get to the story of the rise and
fall of Ede Loin
Mayor perre: AV C y101;1 LoinrR ILO LiLj�C' C T'Ot.j(,-21,1 01. is it
finished, or
uhat?
Mr. CLrollo:
No, hr.
Mayor,
the t.a-ol-ion
thut I ctll Lroing to
be ULI'iIIL i_'
tlat "11
cork
v�auid ctzd,(_
tind In those
OfficC. ' Uritil L, I-) I � rl
it.
LI-)[WOVed b
b c) t h CC, i i ', i e r
Dawkiiin Lnd
L-ay _,c, I f i --,
b roug lit back to
th i,-- i b _- ion , or
JUSt With OUt-
ar)j)rOVU!
- L
PILn UILt vouid
Live both of' us
equal
to the bay
for
our atLff.
Mayor, Ferrer Is there as second to that motion? Further
discussion.
ld August 169 1984
67
Mr. Dawkins: Urvl-r dis-ci.ir-RLon . T %JI-1 317o2n �F'rr nncl T
agree w1fli Cnroll.n- J- 5-D-1310 ncc-nq to the
Bay, blit- if ^1— cloing
distribill-Jimi, �131 lvli'- he
needs- 11—y ii
quart—, clow;n here
on thi.!7 A41 nml rr-mo- nJJ -I),- f�-.nrl —n(l rigidit
eqbn Aji---r�, r-Pcli of 13r, qr-�- Ale- pt)Tn- �)Tjtount
- - -.1 J�y t T I - - .. . . I
Mayor F4-rr-.- —TonLIP, r1pirl
Mr. DriO-Jnn.- Org' t),ny r1n,,w
Mr. Cnrollo- 11vn got no problem as long ns we move Plummer
from the bpo), i4bern hc Im nto and put him over here too,
Mayor Frrr(-'-. Oh, I 4-not4 t1J3 vas going to hrippe-ill All
right, now, ns Pmendcd. Do you sceept the nmendnent that he
just made? yo" neenpt the SmCndment, porO77
Mr. Pernz., Yos, but, 1 thinjt that the np�ee, that wn have for
this Lino in not cnoiigh. I t-Toold like to rood so-mothing to
this motion, you know?
Mr. Cnrollo: I thin1,1, i-,c should miovc the 111anngcr out of City
Hall and divido that: up t)Ct14CCn us toot
Mr. Fore-.: in Imi:7, once, we have to npprovo the proper
dial rnmo --nd vc expond the facilities, rind I npprove under
that condition�
Mayor Ferro-. All r1j;bt, now it has been amended again.
Mr. Plummer: Vould you repeat the motion, plc"-.-;.Ic?
Mayor Ferree: Wait a minute. Will the maker of the motion
accept ...
Mr. Carollo; I am not the maker of the motion.
Mayor Ferro: You made the motion!
Mr. Carollo: No, he made the notion. I seconded it.
Mr. 'Dawkinn: I'll makc the motion
Mayor Ferro: L'es, aruended, Everybody in agreement now?
Mr. Plur, ar: Unit c ninute. Repent the motion.
Mr. Dawkins: It in that we start down where Commissioner
Plummer's offices vere, and take the tzhole wing over there
that includea Cry rumisaicner Plulzmicrl S ex -offices,
Commissioner lliller Dawk i n s, I offices a nd Commissioner
Demetrio Poroz' offices, take it c1l outt divide it equally,
and make ture that the three of rat have equal windows on the
bay.
Mayor Forre: 11rovided, hovievcr, thLt Verezlb thing
Mr. Perc:L:
but ) havc an
that
we extend the
--office
in
th(, t:zy thLt urj hLvc proper
that the three
h La 5
to
zurl` 1, r ov c. t-Gr :a t. , b c cz-t u .,-' c I d o i t
I I av I&
c n o u C, h s- nKce
in my
off'&Qc,
Lnd 1. think thLA if ve
havc
to LoOL-1 the
Finaneu
ib In .1 Uief tj
-LC1',,
I thAtj
k Z, OlLt would
be S LOOd
Mr. Curollo.- But, rat iire forVettinCot-tiaiH ioner Plummer
toot I imean, you tLn't Itave uric Co"fii6bioner out. We don't
want to discriminate, 5o we should include ...
Id
August 160 1984
68
Ak
Mr p I u rn T n;-. q mi,nute- WhAt W_ you doing with
commissi,or--, r114T7-1-r-r "(-)W?
Mr. CPT-ollo: Oh h(�11 r10 nPAr what we woi)ld like to do
with Crr, 1
13P qn(,] I will
Mr . r Yrnl, I
In'll. Pre— sirbury
Mr. �4_ r7e% 4olng I,-rr-, in, Como
the
t: n (1, "To%) got the 0 e- f i pn 0 U wa n t e d
immedin'ErJv" nnd C--vCrY1-)O(1.y nln4If, happy r?-Ccpt
Mayor torn, -he, rotj on 1:7, Ming njj r, b f r of the
I A � A I
Commission be treni"c(l nqimlly q� to view-7, ricocis nn(l square
footngn� It hr . n raven rovro pnj ScConded. Further
d i se u s s ion?
Mr. Perez: But thnt overybooy has "Lo npprovo that project.
Mayor Forro, And thnt n1l, nember s of the Commission must
approve thnir spnee bcfnro it is finalized.
Mr. Perez: Ench one hnto P-pprove ...
Mayor Ferre: His spnon.
Mr. Perez: Hir rpnoo, ture.
(INAUDIPLE' r_V.XT1-,GROU1FD CO-NMENTS)
Mr. can't take Plummer's space.
Mr. Percz, J,! c c,,,, 7 A hr,,vc, opportunity to extend the
space to thc rin!�Ilcc
Mayor Ferro: It Iv, on,11cal vnity
Mr. Plummer: Well, v�,nit a. minute now, let's play fair. I
think if we are going to play fair - there is five of us.
Mayor Forre: Five.
Mr. Plummer: Lad that includes the Mayor's office in the
second floor.
Mayor Ferre.- 7batla finct Plummer, you have always wanted
that office, you can have itl
Mr. Pluiiomer : No, no.
Mr. Ccrollo: See, Plunamer, even through you don't want to
acknowledge that he is still the Mayor and you are not.
That is tzhy lie could have that space.
-Mr. PluiL-ner: 71hat is not the point. I think we are talking
about tuLL-1 _tqioare rootag_(-,, total vtet., tind I think if we
are going to do, it, wo are L-11 cqu,,,11y clected officia13.
Mayor rerru: you z.,nd I both L.now that the 11,16yor's
officv;, haulv#Lybten uhtre it i-- tA..
M r . F I uml in t r bUt, it WLhalf its 6iZe 14L11C11 SIOU and I came
here.
Mayor Ferre: Finet Then I will give up half of it. Does
that satisfy you?
69 -
Id August 16, 1984
Mr. Plummer: I don't want hinIf of It. jvir-11% nny we are going
to be PqusIl
��'jf'S YOU, that Is fine.
Mayor Ferrp: I mean, if thni, j
You know, this eire-us Provind b,-T- - 1 4,rt-1,jng, to A point that
we nrf, nl)out each petty little
eAn be petty!
TIT r) rnvinr
Mayor
nny pnrt of n. offlce you want.
Does tbnt.
Mr. PluimcTI 11nre� , �f you pgoingtohe Across
-o:
n
the board, nQus11)7? th(�-n It-";7 t)c cross the board nqunlly.
Mayor Fcrrn. Fino, ear. plumm.c-r , h ra do vlxlntevryovi wsntl
I have no problcms, and I don't nven rind moving outs You
you �;-nted to be., Mayor for a
want my officer.? You know, f7 1
long tine Run for rinvor, mrnl That 1,s the; way to do it.
You want to be n real_ nacho ran, then be a macho man. Don't
go around ci)tt.inr on nornern. Now, are we ready playing
games?
Mr. Plummer., 33-ni-t on ache turf
Mr. Carollo: 11r. V'Anyor, hey, I might end up voting for you
after i�!!; :Z I like that!
Mr. Plurmcr; Yc-r 1 hcnra thMt,
Mr. Crnro).7.4).- P. I'T m r r r, r- T, 1 (- r I- I'. T 6: 0 1-1115,T2F--s face to facet
rybc onc, of -j-jc,_r-(
You 1-crial-,7 t
vyc repe, it, o c4 -mended 10 times?
Mayor Fcrrc.- r
Call the 1-011"
The following r.otlon introduced by COMMi33ioner
Carollo, who moved its vdoption:
VIOT.1011 110. 64-9511
E
0-TT T I T IT A MOTION DIFid'...'j- j I CITY HhHhGER TO
STOP, CrAs-r- I DIE: 1ST ALL WORK
CURRENTLY 1) OFE 1141 COUNECTIO14 WITH
THE REHODEL111-10 0" 01-FICE SFhCE FOR THE
MEMBERS OF TIME CITY C 0 jil Is, I S S 10 H AND
DIRECTING THAT THE SPACE OCCUPIED BY
COMMISSIONER CAROLLOr COMMISSIONER
MILLER DAW11"INSt Co1;j1rAISSIOj1ER J. L.
PLUMMERt JR-r AND VICE-HAYOR DEMETRIO
PEREZ BE DIVIDED EQUt1LLY 11IT11 SPECIFIC
• ATTENTION TO EQUAL SQUARE FOOTAGE,
I THE BAY AND
ACCESSIBILITY AND VIEVIS OF 11
FURTIiER STIFULATIUG THAT t� REVISED FLOOR
PLLN MUST HIAVE IUDIVIDUAL APPROVAL OF
EACH C01=H-11SSIONER.
Upon beine teconded by Commi.--ioner Perez, the
motion was pas: ed L�;rid �L.dlopted by the following vote -
AYES: C0jL1ra1j�bi3Ot1CY- JOC CLV-0110
Cottbis:sicvic-r 114�111er J. Vuwkin3
Comml.5*ioncr J. L, Pluunmer, Jr.
Vioe-Hz.yor DeLetrio Perez, Jr.
Mayor Kaurice K. Fevre
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
ld 70 August 16, 1984
Ah
Mr. Carollot Mr.
Mayor,
in thp rnnnn timn. my
staff
is
staying where they
s%rp nt.
right
-ovild Ippreciate
If
we could 11AVn 01'r sPcn r�- s, 0
0 nn o n
ehAmbers
reinstpll,�O ngnl,n,
rin 'br-J,
!I-Y .I."going
On
I n hpr- lbnt ,
11. -
1 F77 P f
j
P. P hr�r`
no
can
jL
— ---------------------
13. FORMALT_UT70, DIMOLWAWTRA-ALUDCPA7F n-,20.000 -a "IIATTIAN-
A
T 7 fir FI)ASIOV AF ER-
AMERICAN 70V7411 P"IF"
V.7
SCUOOL Pff"KIPAPM-
- — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — —
Mayor Derr can v7j n n v n n nii7 tion of the Haitian-
- 11, - , - ro i r , n
Amerienn Youth, Dcvclopmcnt, Inc. for Edison After -School
Progrnn, ' '?20t000. I
Mr. T)nwR. I 'n -1 a 11 o,,,-, e, it -
Mayor Fcrro,,. Dr it moves the resolution.
Mr. Perc7: Socond,
Mayor Ferro: Pcrcz ,.,leconds. Further discussion? Call the
roll.
The folloiilnr, rr103,11'10,a wP- '"TltvOdticcd by Commissioner
Dawkins, who rnovrd F.M n6cI
A RF.rS 01, 1 P 0F. (11,
F U I �' 1)
ClIX
*0t)Tli
DEVE1,O)l
C,
Pt
f V'TER
""I E
RIVE1
ho1
E rl 7 E,
o n
O.f'fice
of' tl,-.,c
113jilt';y
Upon b c in C!, ,�cconded L)v CommiSsioner Perez, the
d
resolution wos passed and by the following vote-
AYES: Commisisioner Killer J. Dawkins
Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice'Mayor Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Hayor 111aurice A. Ferre
NOES: Nont.
ABSENT: tv'raric .
14. VChRLIaIZILIG RESOLUTION: ALLOCATE $400000 TO
INTE-19-ilKLY101'AL HL-PLYR COUNCIL EVE14T TO LIE HELD 111 14IAMI
u- L PD1 VAITH C()11_iD11f10L$S.
s L P I li", r. 153) L 111 2 1 117 U P, 0 Lt �3
----------------------------
Mayor Ferre. We need to forwalize the International Health
Council, and mo on, reolutlon.
71
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Mr. Perez: Moved.
Mayor Ferre: Perez moves, is there a second?
Mr. Plummer: Yen, move it,
Mayor Ferrel. Plummer seconds. Further discussion: Call
the roll.
The following r(-_nolution erns introdijePO by Commissioner
Perez, who moved It-'s Pdoption:
WIESOLIJ710ti rloa P,)A_Q�,6
A RESOLUTION ALLOCATING AM AMOUNT NOT TO
EXCEED 140,000 FROM SPECIAL PROGRAMS AND
ACCOUNTS, CONTINGENT FUNDr IN SUPPORT OF
A PROPOSED INTERNATIONAL HEALTH COUNCIL
EVENT TO DE IJELD SEPTFtIBER 21-2'3, 1984l
SAID ALLOCATION BEING CONDITIONED UPON
METROPOLITAN DADE COUNTA AND OTHER
GOVERNMENTAL AGENCIES PROVIDING AN EQUAL
MATCH, AND SUD3ECT TO SAID EVENT P3EING
HELD WITHIN THE CORPORATE LIMITS OF THE
CITY OF HIAJ-11; FURTHER CONDITIONED UPON
SUBSTANTIAL CONIPLIAICE VITH CITY OF
MIAMI ADI-11HISTRATIVF POLICY HO. APM-1-
Oi1
D!=D JANUARY 24? 1084; FURTHER
AUTHORIZIT!G THIE MANAGER TO EXECUTE
AN AGREE?' EN7 ItA FORM ACCEPTAP�LE TO THE
CITY fATTor�tFy TO THPLEMENT SAID
ALLOCfTJ Ott: r
C, d y of rcnolution,
0m, i tt , c, 6 in the Office
of thc ('10,
Upon 1) e, I 1-) 6 f, 1yy C o t,J 1,,,3 1 ti r,% ' cj n c r Plummer, the
resolution p 6 jA c d 1)), t, h (-- f c) I I owing vote —
AYES: 0.
Vicc-I.-ri.vor. Dcr-;c,,trio Perez, Jr.
Mayor 1".-alriac A. Forre
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
15. APPEOVE It! PRIECIPLE A REQUEST FOR USE OF PEACOCK PARK
BY THE ULYIOUAL FOUNDATION FOR CHILDREff 10 CONNECTION
WITH L FUND ELISIEG EVENT.
Mayor Ferre: Seth GO) -do)? Quiekly, Fir. Gordon.
Mr. Stu, Gordonzz VIr, [lbyor end Ccnt.tmi6�loncrt, rLy name is
Seth Gordon, I �L- hert in btl;Llf Of' 1)0CtGV-.-> Lnd Lory
Braga. Thi-n _1� in Coconut Grove, They ruit Sri orgLnization
called thc ULtioii&ii dy-e It, ifivy can't be
here rlEht. LOW, they Ly'u GJOL11 L%t Country U4,1k, where
they tire LeetinV t ei-tildruri of the day
Z, � wi it tile [ILI-eflt- Of t1ju
care center down thti-c. One Of' the proLzrZ4IZ-S tht-,y
Mayor Ferre: Mr Gordon, you are going to lost your quorum.
What do you want?
Id August 16, 1984
72
Mr. Gordon: Okny. we Pre the creator of the boonsbury comic
strip - Gqry Trmlp�su, ns A contribution to the National
Foundation for Childrcn hrin -
Mayor nhould do some drawings for this
cqmmiins5on?
Mr. to eame to Miami and be present
s
at the cim�k-
o.ry'n or.1y Imr-,"er-ne bn k noon -bury" party 83 a
1 -.1
donation to tjis� TinLionni, Foundn.-tion. It in to be September
29th. Vo bnvc' r, full dny.
Mayor Ferre: Vhpt. do 311,ai) !nnt rero-m tho city?
Mr. Gordon: 14P t4nnit PC-.,AVo0< 1"Irk. We would like to have
the permit; and r-11 the norts of things thit we would need
to hold n b.--If dny evr"t,
Mayor Ferro : Thnt in grept. A- nm nll for Doonsb"ry coming
back.
Mr. Gordon,. We voulo liirc the nortli of in -kind services
comparable 1"o the sorviecs providcd nt the Taste of The
Grove event n few voc)_;s ago.
Mr. Gary-. Wbat i- the, Chamber oft! Com crcc putting in this?
Mr. Gordon: The Chnnibcr of C-3mimerce isn't involved.
Mayor 1--orrc-. ',"ou nr c indivi5ually, you are not here from
the cha-rdocry 'l
Mr. Gordon- Rit'lit, the private sector in the form of the
Miami Herald, Citycorp Savings are rajor sponsors of the
event.
Mayor Ferre: Seth, what do you want from us?
Mr. Gordon: Okay, we would like those things at Peacock
Park.
Mayor Ferre: Anybody have any objections?
Mr. Dawkins: Yes, you know, here again, we haven't had
this. tics the, tanager had this?
Mr. Gary.- 141o.
Mr. Dawkins: This is violating our own rules. They are
supposed to Co to the Manager. I call the four day rule.
Mayor Ferro: Okay, five day rule. All right, Seth, do you
have problcmt� coming back September 6th?
Mr. Gordon: 01 * caty, the problem Svc h-ave i.,,, that tAle ('Vent is
September 29th.
Mayor Ferret Did vlou try un Miller bz�ujlfinn and
Plummer land
Mr. Go'coon z I J'uc-'L-. fUL11-A "1, '-
-t1 tIJ-. U
Tneetintj l:aL u-alled' i-cl-airl 2"Or vus-telldiay
that thego;ylcl -ILAD 1-. lac-c-tinc— lk"._h"t i v-,2ould like,
I: C) -.I cc and I
ftS I U11L r'tLll(� it: tlliL i" c, V L 0.1
don't lit..:: to Lv_,1'1'1i(j t1il-L C-i! YOU1 - if could have some
indic&tion of Lo that we can begin
pla.nning ovur t).L- n&xt �-,,eekra.
I
Mayor Ferret WLit a Ldr..Uta.
Id
August 16, 1984
73
Mr. Gordon: I don®t know what that converts into in a cash
amount.
Mkyorf F�rr�z -A novn thent this -rintt-r be turned over to the
City �rm;zFer lfnr h1n, rrvj-t-,, and -)pprov;,1 to be approved in
- - f-i
an n-mount '5,0r,10.
fr. Gordon: T cl o; I 1 4- 1(nov, ),f that vill do
its The Taste of
in.n o00,
the v Gror- t42 D
5
Hr. Gnry: Arc yoii fpndinF�� pnoplc7
.9
Mn� r. Gordo: kn thnt vinnt nioney ;-Tns
for, "ns to feed
people? I ,ins told lf'--hnt tinn for services.
I thought that
was for polinn nP4 nnnitnt'lon r-,n(l
Mayor Forre:,providirgal hownvcr thnt the
City Hnnager and
the City Attorney npprovn it- I so nove.
Hr. Plurmnnr: Thnt, the post not to exceed
$5,000 and to be
approved toy the T-lanar,,,or?
Mayor Ferro: Ycs.
Mr. Plummcr; Tjliis is n non-profit?
Mr. Gordon: Fon-profit.. Untional Foundation.
Mr. Plummer: Are: thcy tntuff?
Mr. Gordon,, A.,,; � fund �(ml- tho Foundation., they are
selling oi.I'fn,), Voonasbury comic strips.
Mayor Ferr,rc., 1 tlftit�, i:) n non profit
t i fi o d t.litit. nobody
�e'
13 m a 1, 1 ri, j"r r, p r n u li'. r"I" vn6thnt wc,s r1--o t`pprove the
use of r � other thirjgs s e nece,3sary
for carried out, not to exceed
$5000.
Mr. Da vi k -4,, 1 i ,r , c a (,'� i -k d .
Mayor Ferrc: Call the roll.
The following motion was introduced by Mayor
Ferre, who moved its adoption:
140TION NO. 84-(957
A MOTION TO APPROVE IN PRINCIPLE A
REQUEST HADE FOR T11E USE Or. PEACOCK PARK
BY MEMBERS OF T[ilE VLT10141AL FOU14DATION
FOR CHILDREN 114 CONNECT101•,' WITH k FUND
RAISING EVENT AND IREFEIIRING THE AMOUNT
REQUESTED, KO T TO EXCEED eZ�5,000 IN IN -
KIND SEEVICES, SUEJECT TO " PrROVAL BY
THE CITY U.ANAGLE' AND T111] Cilly ATTORNEY
AND REQUE.STING T8LIF THEY THE WON -
PROFIT 'S.Tt"fulS, ('11F
Upon being :coondcd b-, t)iv,Isms, the motion
was passed and Ldo)%,t%,:d by �Alc vote -
AYES: CowmibNiorier H®E 1-1cr 3
Commissioncr J. L. Plug-mer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Dtmetrio J. Perez, Jr.
Id
August 16, 1984
74
2
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Cormnil,sr^innqr Ion Cnrollo
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
16. FORM ALIZIFG ALLOCATE $501,000 FROM C-D-
rv;pp- IV-1117F AT OF IDADE COU TY TO
rROV"3DE TO DELAFOTITF 7ACOLCTr V1, 111711
Mayor Ferr(c: VoI4 "f- hnvo community j)cvciopmnnt block grant
funds. This Is 1-1hr., United Way of J)sdo Coiintly to provide
Belafontn Tpeoley Cnntcr - Is 1-1r. Bennett heIrr,17
Mr. Gsry,. 1-jell r nor I cfn rt-
,r;pond that, i1r. Miyor. This
is iter . ctnrc to no, from tho Executive Dirootor of United
Way, and itoe' trilIrled I'llorritt Stlorhcim rind myself' f-lbout the
problems that Tpooley 1H-is hnvingr Mr- HISYOr, t, P. n d it
basicnlly is they hnve somic problcm -n vhern they were
utilizing monies thnt- should linve been pnid to I.R.S. for
their ongoing opernting expenses. This money t-,iill pay' the
outstanding dobts nerd hire a staff.
Mayor Fcr,s! Mr. Manager, are you recommending this?
Mr. Gary: Yes.
Mayor Ferre: Is there a motion on this? I so move.
Mr. Perez: Second.
Mr. Plurartior: 17here is a motion made and duly seconded. Mr.
Manager, I think you Ind better ,o into n little more
discusl-,Aon. B na, 5, o a I I y t I r�uo;—, i-,,iy question if. there
1) C. r c hou do T knov the
has
additiorlr,l t", 1'QV000 br. r
• Mr. Gar-j..,:
v--05-
operation
to
i.n T u 1, C E, c Semi, e,
c pc,nded
approprictcly,
d t h f, u t v r ct, v, T I i c
('Ypcndcd
appropriaiLlely,
r-nd that is COiIIC� to be c-1
cond ition for
continued
, of that
fund'. -Air raCency, cnd t--!ill
L.
not be the
monitoring
-nd
thc aupervision will not cealne and desist
until they
are
ready to manage their own affairs properly.
Mayor Ferre: All right, one way or the other.
Mr. Plummer: Call the roll.
The folloving reqolutlon introduced by Mayor Ferrel
who moved its adoptions
Id
RESOLUTION NO. CS
A R ES 01, U T 1 ON h L LL 0 (3 'f I !�'G cv Ij 0 1 000 FROM
COMMUNITY DLYLI-01-1,11 IC) L,',L0(-,',T1 G111',NT FUNDS TO
THE UNIT!"D 141y 0i, DIA)L -1-0 PROVIDE
F1NANC1t-1.L tiND TECHINICLL ti'*-"'Q".�--',''1'1,,.tdCl-- TO THE
BELAFONTE TLCOLCY
I N(_, 1, U 1-17' H E R
AUTHORIZING Till-' CITY VX'r-'CL!'1F AN
AGREEKIAV,14' L'I'111 11.11111"YED Vfl' bi:' DADE
iHE hi-1`40V" OF 'I'-�N F CITY
COU11 L U1 4 J '
1VC)1J-,i LED CUIXILC-INL,'�,-".
(Here follow3 body of resolution, omitted here
and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
August 16, 1984
75
Upon being seconded by Con, rn I in I on or Perez, the
resolution wns pAnsed pnd Pdopt--d bly th,� following vote -
AYES: Mlllrr !, T):;-kins
Comm I ss I -on �r .7. J, rjijmrj(-r f Jr.
-A.
Vice -Mayor Denintrio J. Perez, Jr.
Hayor Knurice A, Ferre
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Gam-mil-Isioner Joe CArollo
17. REQUEST FAVOTAPLE CO"SPI DE RATION BY WE U.S. DEPARTMENT
OF H0tJSXr4Gr AND 1)PITIAT! P.7EVELOPMERT CONCER"IFIG TKFE CITY'S
REQ1JE,_`3T FOR F!PAF7CTAL ASSAlf-STAVICE WO CHRIS71AM VOSPITAL
Mayor Ferro: All right nov, the, UDAGG, This 1:7, nn urgent
request Oy Senntor, rc-pper, (twT 'T11131 VOINT, Hnyor Fcrrc reads
resolution into the rcoord.) 12 thorn such P, motion?
Mr. Perv-,: o iv r dr� R
Mayor Tr, r rr-conel? Plummrr rzceandr. Further
d i so v s „r, on V a 1'rnrr.nr r 1rc ycni rcoor c-ndinr, t,--his7
1) 5, n 6� r--- y ,k. You
M r . Gr
can't• rrr. h.`P, C
Mayor VC r T 01 V n i,v(',- of 1:.Jiiit Mr. Manager?
The Introduced by Commissioner
Perez, w h o m o v c d I 1-,n c- y3 i cat';
Vi_ 959
A RESOLUiloll 11"I . 'Q U LS- 7 11 11 G FAVORABLE
COKSIDERLT1011� BY ILS, DEJ'1hRTKEKT OF
HOUSIFiG Al"'. U P P, A, DEVELOPKEFT OF AN
AMENDS E 11T TO T 1 4 E' CITY OF 14IAMI 13
APPLICATION FOR F111ti-NICIAL hSSISTANCE TO
I TP THE CHRISTIAN HOSPI1 �iL PROJECT THROUGH
THE U R FAN DEVELOPKENT ACTION GRANT
PROGRAM AND E)IRECTING THE CITY MA14AGER
I
TO PREPARE AND SUEMIT SAID AMENDMENT.
• (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here
and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being o n d c d b�l C 0 L Lq i 6 ,; i o ri e r Plummer, the
resolution wL3 pilnzcd Lnd r-doptcd by the following vote -
AYES: CoL�i.�i.L6ioricr J. L. Vlur..iber, Jr.
Vice-Hla,yor licrim-trio Perez, Jr.
tip Ferre
NOES:
ABSENT: CotLml3aioner Killer J. Dawkins
Commissioner Joe Carollo
August 16, 1984
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Mqyor '.0 br! the
chairprrron 0f7 the foll'o,"'Inr onrimIlAr-!�: tee n 17,, o I P r> for
the coming here oA," Mj.ebp(,j jpci�,-on on T,,ov,^nji)rr 3, 11 and 5.
1 1 Bob
ttin Op0nrnf IWY-, Drli0-,rrp TTontY Trn-tnor. Rnlph
Sanchez:, Drin flctl;-in, nr�, finrin Ebnn Torino, tjrn, :--;I)r-,rwood
Weiser, Mr.n. Athslln Rnngc, Vince T eGeer Hllt.on Vickers,
James rleouccnj, VU-Ilin Gort. Lot -its Lnurndo P-.nd Al Cnrdenns to
be on your ndvi.sory nonnittnc, For thn record,
e the
J8ckSOnvllle� rentil for the Nichnnl Tnckson niinnit, runs for
$25,OOOpOOO rental. p o r event . Thr^ 00nc(^sslon and the
parking mere split. Thy City of incksonvilln obnucd $1.00
per pnrking sn.nnof, Cor 9,000 pnrkifig, spnec's., Tho pro -motors
then ohnrgcd 'Y'5-00 per pnrhing spnee, rnd toolc the, rest.
They Lind In of i-yordn, they hard 100%
of all shirts, tne' shirts, gzlovcs r-,nd other (lichnol Jadkson
paraphernnXin loori-. Tb(-;y land 30" on their regular
concession 0:f their stadium, but they got. the conoc's-nionaire
to vinive, it nnd it, r-?en pp t-ihich ti!,is split: 50 -� 50
. - t to 11 ov
between Mr. Sullivptn of rijohjel jrck:,on tc)ur p ,no the City
of Jacksonville, however, ri-r. Ivullivan agreea J
charut,,:c:; -41-11--half of thcir concossion, -,,.7hich amounttcd to
$5,000 o,7cb nor earl ) Yn addlit-ion, they sct 'Lip rr
a
$100,000 to 1-:,�Drthy %idr 1--1.)0 wnntcd 1--o f--11--udy
music in tlj),`, -hr.�re 5-- , up
the fieJ6, 71(3 li.-1-6 i-r 1,-:,,- rcrc-1(7-6, T'h;7i- Cost
r, r c wa s $22,000,
1:1.1c, Host
a t ive
i-hich
y
Meal
got n 1� J tl(
Ciy
apeol 1, f,"1 yv. 1: 1 IN
of j c, jf
"h-- vo4r16 hronk
'r
even 6 l't 11 Z I-
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ex pen,,n c,: iE.nusned
this vif"11 v-1 c o er, Jake
Goldbolt t, r, di Selo told F, ' C t:-O quo hi I-' Y 1 n r,,' SA t,z� a Th e
greatest;*tjjjj,[,r , tilL _ t, -P P c n o, J r, C I'L, a 11 V 1, C it
, QV Cr I,
was a family event 1C, h, r., t, it; ci tots l Zclloutlt rrjd U'Lat it
wet a tromendoua and 4-lucce-Isf,ul project.r, It rr c3tir-ated
that it pulled into Jacksonville 411' 15 1000 t 000 of
expenditures. $3t500,000 were ticket sales, of which
$2r200,O00 went to the Jacksons. Another $3,300,000 was
spent by local fans attending the concert, and that further
$5,700,000 by out--of-townerS who came in. It was estimated
by the Mayor that City HVII expected to reap a profit of
$60,000 fron. these I uOve that this committee be set
up, that Plu=ler be the chairperson of it, that 11r. Gary
appoint whoever he think- LppropriLtiL rS Staff Llackup Lnd
that they be vauthorited to brinL:, baelt, Lt contract no less
than the JL0k-`0DVi1.1C- 00riti-LCt, but 1k,,hLt it' it is needed,
that you Co down to tlic- jLcj,�onvjjje corlt'rLct,
I that t4ould be
acceptLible to this Comraj-,,-�Jon. The contrLct it> beir)L,�, Lir
expressed. Hr. Chucle. sujjjvLrj, I-S-110 is - of, tj,le
promotirle VOUP Utill b(tCL11ir1L fl`O-t� OL Ir LUjrop- t sor ow, L-nd I
C
Will tht- CL11 tO YUUI- 0f'f-jC(,-. I uOuld L1�,O like to
appoint: Hir . rills 1) L� V1, i n -, C� b �, i C, k�- C, 11 L i r U Lh of` the
00mmitttt, which, Leat-i- th4t- you J�,Vt to operate in the
sunshine:. YOU d0tf't ULI'lt thL0
Mr. Plu=mert hey, I don't mind operating in the sunshine.
August 16, 1984
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Mayor Ferre: You are going to have
All right, I so move.
a sunshine deal anyway.
Mrs'. Pere,;-., I moulel 3ike to add to tbnt commisnion n. member
of the Ls -(.In Chimbor, of Corrmeree, 14111inm Alexander.
Mayor F4�rram: 1 --031 sdd TJlilliam Alexander. Anybody else?
All X ro moves,
Mr. Penrn,-., I socond.
Mr. Pluvim cr ; Notion understood.
votes, right? Call the roll.
It takes three affirmative
The folloHlnr�, notion was introduced by Mayor
Ferre, who moved Ito ndoption:
NOTION Noe 84-860
A HOTION' TO ESTABLISH A COMMITTEE IN
CONNECTION WITH EFFORTS TO BRING MICHAEL
JACKSON CONCERTS TO THE ORANGE BOWL
STADIUM -III NOVEMBER OF 19811; APPOINTTNG
COMMISSIONER J. L. PLUMMER AS CHAIRMA7"
AND CO11Ms1-9Z3IOJP1AER UILLER DAIIN'INS AS VICE-
CHAIR17A[' A.JJ) Dj_PiFCT1NG THE C17Y TiANAGER
TO F V P; N 15 1 A[X "' 1 5 T P!'� T T V F 7 Al F 'UPPORT
ITH e
A N D 71 0 R F PJ T 1
OF I i F (T I10 H
Wvy
T, .SS
1,F "iILL
T I I A 1 C
U T
F"T CAN
Go TAID
11 A
Cc "T
Mori 11" f 1 ,i n c 1 c a n
fie 17 ti,17_ r
Vince
V I Or f I 'o 0 Li e.- en
Willie 6`0r,,,
Salman Lcw�i4s.
Upon being -Peconded by Commissioner Perez, the notion
was passed and adopted by the following vote-'
AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plumnmer, Jr.
Vice -'Mayor Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Mayor 14aurice A.. Ferro
.NOES: NO n c .
ABSENT: Con-mi,*aicner Hliller % Dawkins
Joe CLA-01 10
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19. LHL.L-1'' IFIL011H A MEKOPIANDUR BY VICE MAYOR
C0k1'CEt-,,U1L(;, IKULTIVLE SUBJECTS.
Mr. vertz, tit-, miyor, r i-ave tj-jL,, I to prebent
to the City RLIILger, Lit W: Ll-lLre 0-0jily, �J,tjj you. I jj&y1t
to read into tray record, Hlr, H"yor L ua
t'nwo that I prent seed
—
the City Kanagtr requesting and in reference to a reduction
Of $100 for each property owner in taxes for the next year.
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Id August 16, 1984
Mr. Gary: Tb is m, fijn(linu Pms,
I
Mr. Pere-7! T-Io. J thiTik 11),-41
that we rin mnl in I-Ii, not have to
be.
re qu P r- IV i n cq n T o i I f7 n—i 7 -1 f 1 :1 n f 4 1 r t h e
(-it-Y Of-
Miam i T lol,- of (pi-nI-Jons
that T 3 i I I i. n - t7 p r 17 T-,- "The
f irst q ir� J, r) 1 1.!- n t`--,I_llf*11)7 fo-r a.-. }l- i'tf- 'Ind
ro-mpnr- o".-Aler
e a n <7 r` n -n 0 0 0 0 n r
I
S a I a T i n r, CC nn hn 7--ilary r-Ii-1,111'y nn(l tbf�. (Ii-1)"it- rPT11-
Cate 970r if`r, r17)(I "TIrl rIJf-!7 nnd rr�gpil^i-Jonri 7!-- trbli.sbed for
the di Jr fnrnn I_ pz-mnlol: j on s, , Tji i -K (I , n T) (7, rz-v'i liv)i: ion ro- rz-nr ch for
each depnrl , '-mnnt i of the Ctc) y f Mirnmi, anil tbr�ir Dii vdions
u s t T- t i n. q -r. 1) - i I - n r, r- I a n c (1 1) 1) (1 a e It- (I u r I i q t 1) ir- I n s t v- e
years in comparison t.ith thn Incre-w-le now N^inq 3-oposed,
especially in the rtren of pnrnopnol sir-rvice, opertional
expendit-im--s,, m)(7, ou-1-jay. Y,'or il, thn suT7,.i.MY7Y Of the
1-
evaluation done by t-bn AominiFtration for each city
depa-rtment_,3-1-1-iv7-f-rint-Sna achicirc-,roents and shortcomings
for the fincnl y(-,;-,_r 17ivr;r tbr, rr!port on thc re
covmenditionr, to n.void the continvici3j, flooding 3n the.- City
and wl-&_Cat JAI- V,-0133-6 J.T) t-TIC, lipco.„ing fiscal
year. Six, n, priority 3-i - rt for 1--hn. CU.ffr�rent servicesrendered I-o tts
hrt r(-sionn , of !Kin,mi;� , ccordiq t
no their
her needs
provided by 1-11c Yolicn Dnparl-7,c'nt, Firc, Drpartmcnt, garbage
and trnr-,Ah co_Uir'rtJon, rs -,!- -Llin, r-,trc;7t_ cleaning ar,
essenti,al n v'lkAidy of 'Lbr n-rrrr-mcnt fo'the
City Of 6tir-i-na I'br, 3,-,,r7,t for the
purpos.r_ c.-,.,7 ip li.(-) N-*;l;�I_ ir-10f,-n thr py,�,opo--rty
taxer.
r7
i '71
.1) c.' end
of
reflle(,
C it ji-
p:')),ion from the
City 1
rDon t r i
c'Jjoyocs who
earl) T-
re c o�t n t_, A
posrzil)j(, 11(% r I: c r, . .... C (I( in
order to 1-,i,*:,( C < Lilet:.i1,' Y in the
proprt ee
,, tr�x r.A �r� f t �'I r 1% 17 (- r cl�,,Ier i T-I the CitV.0f
Mi=i invtc.tal olj.� thc proy)o!c(i by thc f-.dministration." I
would like to is vc on thc ;rccc' Ld a�ll these, questions and to
Mr. Plummer: By tor.,iorrow ulorningi
Mr. Perez: ... before the next regular Commission meeting and
before the -PtLrt of the bude.ct discussions. I would like to
leave tnyhow on the rccord ... alsKo, Mr. KanaSer, I would
like to havc c_-n r,,nvcr to tvLluation that I presented for
some Lnzvcr,. Lbout L., month vzr-o that 1 had _-=-e ru(.-:Aion3 I
had anked you, ""Ind tl-.O, 11r, Hayor, I don't think that we
have to iA`t--L-Cht LVI.V UOti011 011 this One. I could like to
request fro.m the hdliuini6tration to include the curb side
issue in the r-it,,rt reFVIlLr Lgenda.
Mr. Gary. Tht what?
Mr. Perez-: The curb side. I think that I would like to
have the opportunity to have that one at the next regular
agenda.
Id August 160 1984
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Mr. Plummer: fir Mayor, for the rpeoro 11
T s-nn' to show that
as anothsr mr.-mbr-r of thin co-mmItt—, for trliehnrJ JAckson, my
daughter, DA"n Mnrl,(- to give, thr- op n wbo
(- I n hr�-
has Just rnttirnrd, nt n vrr�� h10) e—Ap
from ',-,o vi-T-r th- Mi("hnni, jrnc1,7on ('?mnc-rt. DO you
have ny)y put he-r no thr� m I t 1-1 7
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20. ADDTTTON,7%-L D
CONMERTS
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Mayor Ferro: Lot the r(-cord
r�-f Inc t tb n t that was
un-ronimoinsly npprovcd, sand nlro let
the rn.cord. rnflect that
you shoiild 1-ritn n lottcr to Jnke
c.orihnit thnn)-,inf-v birn
becauno tho Ci ty offs Jncksonvillc
-hpd n non . competitive
claune in their contret, not -Vto permit
nny victory t�-ours in
any other eltins In tho octnto o-T
Florida, and they are
willing to iinive t3int for Miami,
Rickv X tinnt- y-ot; to get
that, boanuse thin in Important and
1 notice yoti .-.rc, making
notes therc. Jncksonvillc has tin
cxclusivc on Michael
Jackson's victory tour. No other
elty, con linvo n victory
tour, other than .7neRsonville. The
Cit-v of J rck,;s-onville, has
waived -' It is willing to tin ive
that, and we need to
recogni7c thnt publicly.
Mr. Plummer- Mr. G-r3r, T-ho r-.rr 'T a you rppointl.nfr fromf , t ff?
I
You are tho anc7 F5-nc you r r)(3 c ry r), one
of theso pcopic t-OrW1r110t-1 rornillcj ri)d r-orr �kl)r 'j. C.hcy are
willinU to rcrvr,, Y c ,pcjet r r c p o r, i-. rc= I ;-; r, r -i
I
Mayor F(ICk-C,
C, Ct ic
6 if
N ra i. (, s �,
f
a o W,91 i t
I I
e., the
Comma i S o o
I.., o r(�)A,
I ;�))("
1, jo I, c
n g 5
must "A"
'?15C., f,n(lt 1.
E-4vnt to
add i,)
I i d-- 1, c) tFt7C.. o o 1-o ID t c. c
Lot the record
reflect
that ,y,)p,Fo\,cd
ADJOURINIENT.-
There being no further business to come before the City
Commission, on motion duly made and aeconded, the meeting
Was adjourned at 8:15 P.M.
. ATTEST:
RALPH G. ONGIE
City Clerk
MATTY HIRAI
Assistant: City Clerk
MAURICE A. FERNS
Mayor
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A1,LOCATI,.; 11;20, 000, OF Tt:'N"I'II YFAR M'1',11.1NITY
MENT BLOCK GWvNT FUNDS TO HM TI AN PJIFRJ CAN YOlTTli
DEVELOP Ilf`1TIT, IIdC. ljlO PPO I7j AN AI T'I�R SCI}OOI_; Cf7I?I_
PROJECT IN I;DTS ON LIT'I'LI; I1I_V1.',1., i',U'I'HOI:I ,'-i CI `7'Y
MANAGER TO I NTFR 711 At; RI I;III NT IdI�!'H f�AID ACII;NCti'.
ALLOCATE P olo I;h;T NOT T'C Y""Cl"I'D � l o , ooO , J N UPI'ORT
OF A PROPOSED II1�J'l= R;I�ITJ C�i1AT_, I11_170"I'II COI'NCI I, 1"A"ENT
TO BE IIFITD C (,1''II.I']3}'I 21 — 23, 1981I. At, .T`I10pIZE
CITY /_l'1'I'0RNEY `1'O EvIl"ClITE APv' AGREEME
TO IMPL,EPIE'NT SAID ALLOCATION.
ALLOCATE q,;50, 000 FROM COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK
GRANT FUNDS TO THE UNITED WAY OF DP -DE COUNTY, TO
PROVIDE FINANCIAL/TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE TO THE BE-
LAFONTE TACOLCY CENTER., INC., AUTHOP.I ZE CITY MAMA
GER/CITY ATTORNEY TO EXECUTE AN AGREEMENT WITH TH
UNI''PF ED !'?AY ODADS COUNTY PS TO FORM AND CORRECT—
NESS.
REQUEST hi,VORI BLE CONSIDERATION BY THE U , S , DEPAR':
MENT " OF HUD OF TN All 'NDIIIT'NT TO Till' CITY Oh 1,11TJOI'
APPLIC.,W1 `N FOR FIN7INCI7,L 7SS:IST7I11(7L TO THE, CHRIS-
TIAN HOSPIT'T.L PI?OJECT '.CIiROUG TIIB HUD DEVELOPt'1ENT
ACTION GRANT PROGRT1i AND DIRECT CITY MA-NAGER TO
PREPARE/SUBMIT SAID AMENDMENT.
WV_ 115510" PETRIZVAL
ACT104 AND COME NO, -
84-91)5
84-956
84-958