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HomeMy WebLinkAboutCC 1984-10-19 MinutesMINUTES OF MEETING HELD ON• OCTOBER 19, 1984 (SPECIAL) PREPARED BY THE OFFICE OF THE CITY CLERK CITY HALL RALPH G.. ONGIE INDEX MINUTES OF REGULAR KUTING I CITY COMMISSION OF MIAMI, FLORIDA October 19, 1984 ITEM SUBJECT LEGISLATION PAGE NO. NO. 1 ACCEPT PROPOSED MASTER PLAN FOR M 84-1180 1-10 DINNER KEY AND AUTHORIZE PAYMENT TO 10/19/84 BERMELLO, KURKI, VERA, INC., ARCHI- TECTS. 2 PUBLIC HEARING: DINNER KEY MASTER DISCUSSION 10-35 PLAN. 3 DEVELOP R.F.P.'S FOR SITE KNOWN AS M 84-1181 35-37 MERRILL STEVENS PROPERTY FOR A 10/19/84 MARINA AND A FULL SERVICE BOAT YARD. 4 EXPRESS POLICY THAT NO PARKING M 85-1182 37-38 STRUCTURES BE BUILT IN THE DINNER 10/19/84 KEY AREA BETWEEN SOUTH BAYSHORE DRIVE AND THE WATERFRONT EAST OF PAN AMERICAN DRIVE. 5 INSTRUCT CITY MANAGER TO COME BACK M 85-1183 38-39 WITH PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO THE 10/19/84 DINNER KEY MASTER PLAN TO INCLUDE GROVE SQUARE PUBLIC PLAZA IN PEACOCK PARK. 5.1 INSTRUCT PLANNING DEPARTMENT TO M 85-1184 39-42 FURTHER PLAN POSSIBLE MODIFICATION 10/19/84 OF MCFARLAND ROAD. 6 ACCEPT ADMINISTRATION RECOMMENDATION M 85-1185 42-43 FOR FULLY DEDICATED RIGHT OF WAY 10/19/84 FROM S. BAYSHORE DRIVE ACROSS FRONT- AGE OF PROPERTIES - CORAL REEF YACHT CLUB AND BISCAYNE BAY YACHT CLUB, FOR BIKE PATH. 7 ACCEPT ADMINISTRATION RECOMMENDATION M 85-1186 43 FOR ESTABLISHMENT OF AN ADMINISTRA- 10/19/84 TIVE PROCESS AND PARKING MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE, SET ASIDE SPACES, PROVI- SIONS FOR SPECIAL EVENTS, ETC. 8 AUTHORIZE CITY MANAGER TO STUDY M 85-1187 43-44 FEASIBILITY TO AWARD ZONING BONUSES 10/19/84 FOR DEVELOPMENT OF PRIVATE AND PUBLIC PARKING ON FUTURE BUILDINGS, ETC. 9 APPROVE IN PRINCIPLE WITH AFOREMEN- M 85-1188 44-46 TIONED AMENDMENTS, THE DINNER KEY 10/19/84 MASTER PLANT, DIRECTING TO BE BROUGHT BACK FOR FINAL CONSIDERATION. 10 RELAX RESTRICTIONS ON FIREWORKS FOR R 85-1189 46-47 THE JACKSON'S CONCERTS. 10/19/84 12 AUTHORIZE AMENDMENT TO AGREEMENT R 85-1190 47-48 WITH CLIPPER PIONEERS FOR GROUPS 10/19/84 HISTORIC TIES WITH CITY AND ALLOCAT- ING $4,500. GRANT REQUEST FOR USE OF CITY COM- M 85-1191 48-49 MISSION CHAMBERS FROM THE DIRECTOR 10/19/84 OF THE PUBLIC INTEREST PROGRAM NOV. 29, 1984. 16M MINUTES OF SPECIAL MEETING OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF MIAMI, FLORIDA On the 19th day of October, 1984, the City Commission of Miami, Florida, met at its regular meeting place in the City Hall, 3500 Pan American Drive, Miami, Florida in special session to consider business of public import, namely, the Dinner Key Master Plan. The meeting was called to order at 5:10 O'Clock P.M. by Mayor Maurice A. Ferre with the following members of the Commission found to be present: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Vice -Mayor Demetrio Perez, Jr. Mayor Maurice A. Ferre ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo ALSO PRESENT: Howard V. Gary, City Manager Lucia Allen Dougherty, City Attorney Matty Hirai, Assistant City Clerk An invocation was delivered by Commissioner Miller Dawkins who then led those present in a pledge of allegiance to the flag. 1 ACCEPT PROPOSED MASTER PLAN FOR DINNER KEY AND AUTHORIZE PAYMENT TO BERMELLO, KURKI, VERA, INC., ARCHITECTS Mr. Perez: Ladies and gentlemen, anyone who wants to speak on this issue, I would like him to come to the City Clerk and give him the name and the address in order to call each one of you to start this public hearing. Mr. Plummer: Did everybody understand what he said that if you want to speak, we would appreciate your giving your name? I can't believe there are only three speakers. UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: There were a hundred last time. Mr. Plummer: I'm not trying to encourage anybody, I just.... Joanne, you better come and sign up. Joanne, you can only sign up once. Me. Joanne Holshouser: Could I ask, I don't know, point of order or whatever you're supposed to say at these momentous occasions, I'm not here exactly as a speaker. I'm here to V�M- Mr. offer the alternate master plan. Mr. Plummer: You're still a speaker. Ms. Holshouser: I know. Plummer: Can you do it quietly, without speaking? sl 1 October 19, 1984 Ms. Holshousers I will do it very quietly, but I would like to speak. I would, however, like to be allowed to present the alternate plan that we have worked on and present it for many many months. Mr. Plummer: I still suggest you sign up as a speaker. Ms. Holshouser: How long does that give me? Mr. Plummer: Five minutes. Ms. Holshouser: I would ask the privilege of the Commission, since I have fought this for ten months now, I would like the privilege of being able to present the alternate master plan at this time. We've asked for this for months, and months, and months. Mr. Plummer: Since it would take a motion of this Commission, let me ask you how much time you feel that would be necessary for you to make your presentation. Ms. Holshouser: Twenty minutes. Mr. Plummer: I'll hold such a motion until I see how many people speak up. I'll offer it if it isn't going to keep us here all night. Ms. Holshouser: Thank you. UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: Excuse me, Mr. Plummer, if I may, Mr. Vice Mayor, Mr. Perez, as Merrill Stevens is the center of this Master Plan, I would request in addition to five minutes to address the issue. ------------------------------------------------------------ NOTE FOR THE RECORD: Mayor Ferre entered meeting. ------------------------------------------------------------ Mayor Ferret I think we ought to have the presentation first. All those who wish to speak will be signing up here, then we will move along with the presentation, then, of the proposal. Mr. Manager, can we... Mr. Gary, can we now have the presentation from the administration on this? Mr. Gary: We haven't heard it, Mr. Mayor, but we can begin. If you prefer, we can begin. , Mayor Ferret Yes, I think so. I think we can listen to the public sector aspects of it as soon as they sign up, but I think we do need a basic presentation as to what we're t talking about, so whenever.... Mr. Gary: Mr. Luft will be giving that presentation. Mr. Jack Luft: Ladies and gentlemen, Mr. Mayor, members of the Commission, my name is Jack Luft. I'm with the City Planning Department. The Dinner Key Master Plan was begun about a year ago. It was done in an effort to attempt to come to grips with a significant amount of change that is in fact coming to Dinner Key. It may not immediately be apparent, but there are already set in motion several things that will dramatically change this area. It will create impacts in the Dinner Key area that must be dealt with. It was the purpose of this plan to deal with those impacts and in the process to attempt to suggest some other ideas for upgrading.and improving the use of the area after the manner of which it's been used for many decades. This is not an effort to redesign or redevelop Dinner Key. This is not a proposal to change Dinner Key, This is a proposal to try to si 2 October 14f 1984 ray come to grips with the issues that have been too long ignored and not dealt with creatively. To show you an overview and to deal with the basic principles of what this plan represents is Willy Bermello, who is the principle consultant of the consultant team hired to prepare this study. Willy. Mr. Willy Bermello: Thank you, Jack. Mr. Mayor and Commissioners, I'd like to summarize for you six of the primary issues of the Dinner Key Master Plan. The first issue is public access. Here we are considering three areas of access. Number one is public access from the open space system from Dinner Key to the village center of Coconut Grove. Early on we decided that linkage needs to be reinforced. The plan recommends that the way of doing that basically is by widening the sidewalk along McFarland Road, additional pedestrian improvements in terms of landscaping, and this is done by removing some of the angle parking along this road, so that there's more room for people to walk and basically visually and functionally connect from Peacock to the Main Highway/Grand Avenue intersection. In addition to that, we suggested the removal of the parking at the base of McFarland, which is exactly in line with the visual corridor that leads to the water's edge and to establish a pedestrian promenade that would go right down to the shoreline and hopefully in the future, that can continue southward to the south of Peacock Park and eventually on to the historic properties to the south. In addition, the second area of public access has to do with interconnecting the various open space systems: Dave Kennedy in the north, Kenny Myers Park and Peacock Park. We're doing that by recommending what we refer to as the Bayshore Promenade, which is nothing more than a series of walkways for people to walk, jog, ride bicycles in a safe, comfortable, secure way. I'm sure you have noticed there are certain portions along that route where there are no sidewalks, where joggers, people just strolling along will have to compete with automobiles to get from one point to another. The third element of the public access has to do with access to the waterfront. Basically, we're talking about an area that extends from Monty Trainer's on the north all the way down to the Coconut Grove Sailing Club in the south. Why is public access so important? It addresses a very crucial question, which is to whom does this area belong to. I would submit to you that I think that most of the people in this audience tonight would probably say that this area belongs primarily to the residents of Coconut Grove, to the people that have been here for quite some time. Others would also say that it belongs primarily to the boating industry, to the people who own boats, people who work on boats, repair boats, sell boats. Others would say that it belongs to just about anybody that enjoys coming down to the waterfront to have a nice time in a park. Essentially, this plan is saying that public property of which you, as the Commission, are the trustees of, belongs to the citizens of the City of Miami, as well as to those people that like our area and come down and visit us. Consequently, public access is a very important element, and I would say the primary focal point of the Dinner Key Master Plan. The third issue is parking and transportation improvements. Let me say, this has become an important issue because of what it means to a number of people. Basically, we're saying this, and let me go to the crux of the matter, which has to do with parking in the Dinner Key basin area. Right now there is a deficiency of more than 120 spaces any day of the week, any week of the year. Most of these people that are causing the deficiency, they're parking right now in areas that are legally not parking areas. Consequently, the parking problem is not readily seen. As Jack said, there are changes that are happening and that will be happening in sl 3 October 19, 1984 this area and those are a given. The marina is going to be expanded to up to 575 wet slips. That increases parking demand in the Dinner Key basin area. The Coconut Grove Exhibit Hall will increase its participation and exhibits throughout the year, and that will impact on the demand for parking. It's almost a certainty that Monty Trainer will go ahead and do something in his area and that will generate parking for which he and the City have a contractual agreement, so that he can accommodate that parking. There will be additional cultural events in the Virrick Gym facility, and that will also impact on the demand for parking. These people have to park somewhere. That is really what we're saying. We're saying that by 1990 there will be a need for some 831 additional spaces that need to be provided within that area of the Dinner Key basin. 180 of those 831 can be provided almost overnight, if we take this area immediately outside City Hall and provide additional compact spaces and rework the layout; but there are about 640 spaces that we would still have no place to put. In our study, we looked at a number of scenarios, different alternatives as to how to deal with that additional parking that the City will have to address in the future. We looked at a deck surrounding the Dinner Key, the Coconut Grove Exhibit Hall, basically two decks to provide n all of the parking there. Another alternative was to put it right in front of the Coconut Grove Exhibit Hall and that kt would have been too close to Bayshore Drive and we rejected it for that reason. It also became a hindrance to traffic around the Exhibit Hall in terms of servicing the Exhibit Hall and also the image of the Exhibit Hall from Bayshore .:,. Drive. The third alternative and the one that we recommend in the plan is a long, narrow, low -structure, stepped, ' landscaped hugging the two lease holds, the Merrill Stevens lease and the Coconut Grove leasehold, the Grove Key Marina leasehold. You will be hearing later from an alternative plan presented by some neighbors. We basically worked with them and we've agreed that as a second option, and this was - somewhat a modification of their plan, would be a two decked system behind the Coconut Grove Exhibit Ball and combined -� with a parking structure where the northernmost hangar of the Merrill Stevens dry dock leasehold is located. In terms of David Kennedy Park, we basically said that this area in == the future will require approximately 80 more spaces, that those spaces should be located in an area where people ® presently park. It's an area that is not paved. We would - encourage that the trees, the royal palms, that are there right now should be preserved. Basically that would be in __- the southernmost portion of Dave Kennedy Park, where the 80 spaces would go. Similarly, we anticipate that in terms of Peacock Park, there would be a demand of almost 222 spaces -_ in the future. But there was really no way in terms of the citizens it would be acceptable; in terms of putting - additional spaces in that area, we think that with the possible development by Mr. Treister to the south and some joint sharing of private parking to the west that particular demand in the Peacock area may be relieved. In essence, I'd like to remind you that we are recommending that the parking at the base of McFarland be relocated so that it parallels and abuts the existing parking of the Coconut Grove Sailing Club. In terms of traffic, the major recommendation of the master plan basically says this. The intersection of Bayshore Drive and 27th Avenue is a real chaotic situation right now. That area which Jack is pointing to, which abuts - the boat ramp area, should become a one-way system at that = point, and then become a two-way loop around the Coconut Grove Exhibit Hall, doing away with the barrier, which is in the form of a sidewalk which presently connects the Exhibit Hall with a corner of the marina. The third issue, and I'm - addressing the first three key issues that I think most people are interested about, the public access, the parking sl 4 October 190 1904 and the third one, we'll talk about the Merrill Stevens dry dock leasehold. Basically what the plan says is that the successful bidder -and I want to make this clear, that neither the plan nor anybody associated with it is really saying that Merrill Stevens should stay or they should be the people operating the marine services there. We're basically treating that in a generic sense. Basically what we're saying is that there should be a full service marina for boats over 25 feet with the emphasis being on wet storage, minor repair, and maintenance for all of the marine interest in the area. Our belief is that boats and particularly the large ones, which is what this leasehold provides services for, those boats should be stored in the water, not in the land. In terms of major repair and long- term storage of those boats on land, that the same kind of procedures, which are being employed by other boat yards in the south Florida area, should also be employed here. We're also recommending that a twenty-f-,:•ot baywalk be a waterfront requirement along that leasehold, both the Grove Key Marina and the marina at Monty Trainer's area have no problems with providing for access along the water's edge. We're also recommending that compatible, marine -related commercial be allowed in that leasehold. Basically, we're talking about sundries, bait and tackle, laundry facilities, etc. We're also saying that the northernmost hangar in that leasehold, which consumes approximately 1.1 acres basically right now is nothing more than an area where a few boats are being ter° stored in dry land, not much work is happening there. Obviously, Merrill Stevens contends that this is an essential part of their operations. We're basically saying SF that the full service marina can exist without that portion of land and that portion of land is best suited for public interest in terms of park and open space. It would provide ' the only linkage of open space between Bayshore Drive and the water's edge, from David Kennedy from the north to Kenny - Myers in the south. The fourth issue is lease management. - We're saying that the City should not enter into any lease - that expires beyond the year 2012. The reason for that is very important. At that point in time is the year of expiration of existing City leases with the farthest away expiration date. It would give the City at that point in -- time to have a clear picture of what they want to do with - all of the land within this 117 acres worth of waterfront =- property. We're also suggesting that there be a commonality =_ of payment structure between similar uses. In other words, if similar uses have a competitive paying structure; — similarly, that those users that can prove that they are -_ providing a higher public benefit should not be requested to have to pay as much as those that are mostly of a commercial _ nature. We're recommending that a waterfront access requirement of 20 feet be mandatory for all leaseholds. -- We're also recommending that a Dinner Key Improvement Fund that would come out of number one, lease payments in the form of an override and even potentially development impact fees, be created as a revolving fund to improve and maintain _.® the Dinner Key area. One of the biggest problems that we found was a lack of maintenance and upkeep in this area, - particularly in the public areas. Finally, a coordinating committee, a Dinner Key coordinating committee be created to - review lease negotiations, the preparations of RFP's, etc. - _ The fifth issue has to do with public facilities. We're recommending that the old Coast Guard, the Virrick Gym, be a - mixed use facility in terms of boxing and cultural dance activities, that the City Hall contemplate a possible reuse adaptation of a public nature, maybe a museum or some similar activity, once the City Hall Chambers are relocated to the Government Center; that the Coconut Grove Exhibit Hall there be a consideration for expansion of banquet and seminar facilities that could complement some of the hotel _ facilities in the Coconut Grove area= that Pan American sl 5 October 19, 1984 Drive be beautified; and obviously that we encourage and continue the expansion the marina to 575 slips as additional wet slips in other areas within the Dinner Key area. The sixth and final issue is the reclamation of park land and open space improvements. What we're saying here is that there's approximately two and a half acres of land at the base of Pan American Drive and Bayshore that needs to be preserved, not just as a lawn area or overflow parking, but that should be preserved in the form of a tropical garden that becomes the gateway, the entrance to Pan American Drive, which is of historic importance, and obviously to City Hall. That the spoil islands be converted into parkland and that a number of park related improvements be made at Dave Kennedy Park, mainly of a shoreline restoration and buffering consequence and also at Peacock Park. In essence, those six issues, public access, parking and transportation improvements, the Merrill Stevens leasehold, lease management, public facilities improvements and their use in the future, and finally the reclamation of open space so that more than 18 acres of land that presently are just there and not being used and not accessible to anybody in this community be converted into parkland and open for public use. Mr. Mayor, Commissioners, that in essence is the summary of the master plan and overview. I'm sure Jack and myself will be willing to answer any questions you have. Mayor Ferre: Thank you Mr. Bermello, are there any questions of either Mr. Luft or Mr. Bermello from the Commission at this point? Mr. Plummer: First question I have is that your presentation spoke of water access from Monty Trainer's to Peacock. Why wouldn't it be from Kennedy Park, which is the start of the City -owned property, which has a lot of water abutting property? Why wouldn't your water access start there? Mr. Bermello: Mr. Plummer, the waterfront access that I mentioned started at Monty Trainers and ended at the Coconut Grove Sailing Club. The reason for that is we have a series of what we call givens, the two private clubs, Biscayne, Coral Reef; and there is basically no feasible way, cost wise or otherwise, along the water's edge that we could foresee having the City or the clubs, jointly or separately, provide for a waterfront promenade. The same problem occurs, obviously, at the Coconut Grove Sailing Club. So we took those two areas at either extreme at the two givens. Between that, it's feasible; it's doable. There is cost involved, but it's doable. With those two areas we felt that from a physical standpoint, there were too many encumbrances for that to be a reality. Mr. Plummer: My next person relates to parking. Jack, show me where you are proposing this parking structure. Now, that's a building. Correct? Is that to be a building, and how high? Mr. Bermello: That will be approximately 35 feet in height, tiered, terraced down, with landscaping on each step level as it goes back. Mr. Plummer: Let me just make a comment, if I may. Well, let me ask another question. I realize that you were only commissioned to do a study for Dinner Key or Coconut Grove Master Plan as it relates to waterfront. I, for one, am going to tell you that there is no way in hell I'm going to vote for any parking structure in that area, no way. APPLAUSE My question to you is did you look beyond what I would say is to the north of Bayshore Drive or any other alternative besides something between Bayshore Drive and the water? The al 6 October 19, 1984 other thing that I heard the other night at the Coconut Grove meeting, whatever that... Warren Wetman had it down there. Was there any consideration... I thought a man made a very fine point. I think he went a little bit too far, but I think you could possibly look into, and did you look into... He spoke of Central Park in New York and that the experience of that was walking through the park and that he proposed to cut off traffic. The reason it's a happening is that they don't allow any traffic in New York in Central Park on Saturdays and Sundays. His proposal was to go from Monty Trainers to the Coconut Grove Playhouse. I have to disagree with that. I think it's a little much. I don't think it would be practical nor could it work, but did any consideration give, let's say on Saturdays and Sundays of cutting off from 27th Avenue to the intersection of McFarland and Grand. So that's two questions. One, did you look for an alternate site north of what I would say Tigertail. Second, did you give any consideration to the gentleman's idea about cutting off vehicular... His point was well taken, Mr. Mayor. That was that really your parking needs are for week -ends. You don't need, really, that much more parking during the five days of the week. But the week -end was the critical. So, I guess now I've asked three questions and I'll sit back and listen to the answers. Mr. Bermello: The answer to your last question is, no,.we have not given any consideration to eliminating the traffic or closing off traffic during certain times of the week or the year. The answer to the first question is yes, we did discuss with a number of property owners on the Bayshore side area into a possible joint sharing arrangements with their parking provisions so that the City could use their facilities during special events. The response that we got to those inquiries were very positive, but it's basically a talking stage. We felt that unless the City made a policy decision to proceed further to hinge the whole crux of the parking issue on those inquiries and those first preliminary discussions would be risky. But I must say that there are at least two and possibly three developers, property owners, who would be willing to work with the City on that level. It could possibly reduce by about 80%, if those arrangements are worked out, the need for a major parking structure; could possibly, but there is a lot of this.... Mr. Plummer: I understand. I think we've seen a great number of times where it has been very successful in using the tram service and rather than using your property down here, which you have so little of, they've used the tram for example, I think the most ultimate that we saw was the opening of Mayfair, and it worked out very, very well. So I would just hope that could be considered. Mr. Luft: Commissioner, if I could just make one observation. You have stated that under no conditions would you support a parking garage in the location near the Merrill Stevens leasehold. Mr. Plummer; No, sir, I stated.... Mr. Luft: In the location that we've showed it. Mr. Plummer: No, air, I said under no conditions would I vote for a parking structure, a building between Bayshore Drive and the water. Mr. Luft: And the water, O.K., the point that Willy makes is one worth considering, which you asked about across the street. But the City does have now the contractual sl 7 October 19, 1984 ANI obligation to provide more parking for the Trainer leasehold that we currently provide. We must provide up to 400 spaces more. So the point we're trying to make is that the choice is not do we have parking in Dinner Key. The point is how do we provide the parking and if it can be done across Bayshore, so much the better. but if it can't, we come back again to that same question, that same dilemma, do we pave over in a parking lot the remaining open space along Bayshore Drive to provide that parking. It was the conclusion of the consultant and the administration that faced with that choice, if the other choices do not work out, we would respectfully suggest that the value of that open space, that land, that available potential park land, is greater than the cost or the imposition of a three level structure, which would preserve that open space for park use. That's the point we make. Mr. Plummer: I understand your point, but I disagree. Mr. Dawkins: Mr. Luft, what do you mean when you say we have a contractual obligation to provide parking? Mr. Luft: There is currently in effect a contract that was agreed upon the Monty Trainer leasehold property that stipulates that at any time that his development or use of his property requires additional parking to meet the zoning code, in other words, if he were ever to expand his use of his current property where his restaurant is, then the City would have to provide and the map shows an area from Pan American Drive to the Virrick Gym from Bayshore Drive to the leasehold waterfront properties, that entire area is outlined and a parking lot is drawn in there and it says that the City is obligated to provide that area for as much parking as Mr. Trainer needs to meet his development requirements. Mr. Dawkins: Well, when he comes for his development requirements, cannot the Commission scale down his development requirements not to need the parking? APPLAUSE Mr. Luft: I would have to say that is a question for the Law Department to review in terms of his contract. I could not say what you could or could not do vis-a-vis that contract right now. Mr. Dawkins: Madam City Attorney, in the event that this body, sitting as a body, and a development order came before you, us, does this body sitting as the legislative body have a right to legislate what the parking can be in that area? Mrs. Dougherty: You have the absolute ultimate authority over that development under the contract. So, I haven't reviewed the contract in this context, but I can tell you that before he gets to develop any further, you're going to have to amend the contract. APPLAUSE. Mr. Plummer: Jack, I think needs correction one statement that you made, because I don't think there is anytime that I have heard a proposal to expand the restaurant. I think the proposal and the contract that you're speaking about is for the old marine underwood property. That is not the restaurant. Mr. Lufts Underwood, well that's essentially... that's his leasehold. Mr, Plummers But that's a leasehold, which is different than the restaurant. sl 8 October 19, 1984 Mr. Luft: That's right. Mr. Plummer: It is two separate contracts. Mr. Luft: That's right, you're right, but the parking would be for that. Mr. Dawkins: I'm glad you raised that, Commissioner x Plummer, because then, you see, that doesn't make these people think that Monty Trainer is a bad fellow, as we are saying here trying to take something that's not his. The restaurant isn't even involved in what we're talking about. So let's not paint him as a bad fellow. Mayor Ferret Any other questions from the Commission at this point? I'm sure there will be a lot of questions and discussion after, but I think at this point we'll now get to the public hearing sector of it, and I will... Marilyn, are you the first one up? Is there a particular order that you all want to go on? Is there a presentation? INAUDIBLE BACKGROUND COMMENTS NOT ENTERED INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD. Mayor Ferret It seems to me, Joanne, that we ought to perhaps hear the alternate before we get on to the public discussion, since there isn't... But I think she's entitled to 20 minutes and I think she ought to make a presentation of the alternate proposal. Yes, please, we will now hear from the alternate proposal. Don't set the clock yet. She wants 20 minutes. Mr. Plummer: Maurice, do you want a motion to accept the work of Bermello and Kurki & Vera. Mayor Ferret Sure, I think that's just a technicality. We need to accept the report of the architect, and that doesn't mean that we approve it or that we're going to implement it. Please understand those of you who are here. It just means that we accept that the work has been completed. Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I so move that we accept the work as completed and the outline charged to the architect and make a motion at this time that he be paid. Mayor Ferret Is there a second? Mr. Dawkins: Second. Mayor Ferret Mr. Manager, this has your recommendation, positive recommendation? Mr. Gary: The motion, yes, sir. Mayor Ferret Further discussion on the motion? Call the s roll. ' The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved its adoptions MOTION NO. 84-1180 A MOTION ACCEPTING PROPOSED "DINNER KEY MASTER PLAN 1484" AS DISCUSSED AND PRESENTED BEFORE THE CITY COMMISSION ON THIS DAT$f FURTHER AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO PAY THE FIRM OF BERMELLO, KURKI, VERA, INC., ARCHITECTS AND URBAN DESIGNERS, FOR PREPARATION OF SAID PLAN. Upon being seconded by Commissioner Dawkins, the motion was passed and adopted by the following vote - AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Vice -Mayor Demetrio J. Perez, Jr. Mayor Maurice A. Ferre NOES: None. ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo 2 PUBLIC HEARING: DINNER KEY MASTER PLAN Mayor Ferre: All right, Joanne, whenever you're ready, we're ready to listen. I think so that those of us who will be voting on this can hear it properly, Joanne, my recommendation is that you present your talk, your plan to the Commission and then after you've done that, turn it around so that those members of the public that have not seen it, can also see it. Ms. Joanne Holshouser: Sir, they can see it. We have one for them. Mr. Dawkins: May I have a point of special privilege, please? Someone left some keys in my office, and if you are missing your automobile keys and you were in my office, they are in there. ------------------------------------------------------------ NOTE FOR THE RECORD: Commissioner Carollo entered meeting at 6:02 P.M. ------------------------------------------------------------ Ms. Holshouser: I'd like to repeat for the benefit of the Commission the story of how this plan alternate plan came about, because I think it's important that you hear it on the public record at this time. It has been heard at other meetings, and it has been heard at the Planning Advisory Board level. In late February, I attended the second of a series of meetings, which were supposed to allow the citizens of Coconut Grove to have input into what was going to be done with this area in the way of a master plan. What we saw, I'm told by a number of people, was exactly what they had seen at the previous meeting, which was, I can only describe as a fait accompli. The plans that have already been made, as far as we know, infinitesimal input from the _ public. A number of us were very upset about this. At this meeting in City Hall, which was attended by Mr. Luft and Mr. ® McManus and Mr. Bermello, I'm not sure if other City people - were there, there may have been, but a number of people were very vocal about it. The Coconut Grove Civic Club later sponsored one more meeting. We had other meetings and we were seriously disturbed at the fact that there didn't seem to be any way for anything that any of us said about this precious area to be considered in this plan. I, then, went to Mr. Sherwood Wiser of the Grand Bay Hotel and Continental Companies as a first step in seeing if we could get some support. I had talked to the Tigertail people and some other civic groups, and I explained to him what this plan was. Although I was not able to get a copy of the plan ever, I did explain to him what it was. I asked him if he would support us, because it seemed to us that this was going in the wrong direction for Coconut Grove. Mr. Wiser al 10 October 191 1904 'IN and subsequently Mr. Margolies offered to underwrite, with no strings attached, an alternate plan and they did so. At the time that Taft Bradshaw accepted the commission to do it, I was present and I want all of you to hear on the public record that their instructions to him were very, very succinct: keep it simple, keep it Coconut Grove, and listen to the residents. What you have here is what Taft Bradshaw has done doing just that. I can tell you that now the numbers have increased. I have now talked to over 600 people individually. I talked to numbers and numbers of groups of people. I believe that what we're talking about represents the general feelings of people in Coconut Grove about what they'd like to see this area be. I'm very pleased to notice, as Mr. Bermello was talking, that he has indeed incorporated a number of the things we suggested in his final plan. I'm not going to go into the main things that we dealt with and that were eventually thrown out, but I would like to point out... Marilyn, maybe if you could show the others on that side what I'm talking about; I'll show the Commission. If I could just start with Peacock Park; it's the best way to do it. What we're asking is that the shuffle board courts... by the way I would like to say one thing about the parks. If the City would like to bring , up any data about this, I will be happy to withdraw my comments. All the people I have talked to, the consensus is ..., -r. they would like three things from their public parks in 4� z Coconut Grove. They would like them to be safe; they would like them to be clean; and they would like to see more recreation directors and police officers in varying programs here. We're asking that not just of this, but of all the parks in the Grove. If the City can prove us different, fine, but that's what the people are saying in meetings and privately. We're saying, take out the shuffle board court; ; K give us what Taft Bradshaw said is, "You've never had a Village Green. Why don't you have a Village Square here?" We've talked about that; we've talked to a number of people. -_ That shuffle board court is basically used now for people to hang out. I think if we could clean that area out and I - would like to be the first one to say the Civic Club, I - believe Tiegertail, Central Home Owners, and the others will join, try to get money to go with the City in a joint effort to put up a lovely little Village Green there. We're not - talking fancy folks, we're talking simple and lovely, just an open area with some nice paving there and have an - attractive area for us to have some events there. We're saying, leave Peacock Park alone. We don't need a lot of things in Peacock Park. We just want Peacock Park to be what it still is. It's a lovely gathering place and that is _- why vis-a-vis Commodore Bay, I have said, we don't want an intrusion in here ever, ever. We're saying keep this open. - - -- We need this open. This is a lovely place to drive. This is the entrance to the Sailing Club. The parking is going on over here now, folks, whenever is needed. On week -ends, _ by the way, that is absolutely correct, the parking goes on the green and they go away. Monday through Friday, it's -_ lovely and green nobody bothers. I'm sure that any of the -- events that are using that area to park on the grass would _ be happy to help if it is damaged in any way, they'll pay - and I'll think that you will find it would be cheaper to put the money for the paving, Mr. Manager, in a fund. Let that fund draw interest, and just resod it every other year, if - you have to. It'll be cheaper than paving it, I think. Keep it simple. I'm glad to see that area right now is left basically alone, except for the parking, and we really would like to see it left as a park. I think that if Kenny Myers only knew -I should have called him- if he only knew how we're whittling down his park, he's going to be left without — much of a park down here. The boat ramp area, we have no _ problem. We dealt Mr. Bermello, Mr. Bradshaw and various ones of us talked about the need for that. We have no sl 11 October 19, 1984 s problem with that. We believe that what Bradshaw has suggested here and right down here you'll see a cut version of it. In response to the need for parking, we're saying that if you will extend -he was giving you simply an idea. These are not the dimensions right here that you have to... that's O.K., yes, like that... these aren't the dimensions that you have to work with, but he is suggesting a way here that you may have a thousand Y Y parking spaces by covering the is existing space, by putting a deck in, and by putting a top i deck. I think you'll find the use of that top deck, particularly for special events other than parking, would go up rapidly. I think the exhibition center would rejoice in that. The area towards the bay would still be used for outdoor dining, and we're suggesting small shops. I wantto emphasize on the public record, we mean service shops where — people can stock them every 24 to 48 hours with things that marina people and people walking in the area need. We're not talking about big, big inventories. We're talking about five or six simple shops and the upstairs area that faces on this promenade deck would be available for lease during special events for their things. We think this would be a charming and attractive use and by using heavy landscaping on the sides, I don't think it would be ugly. I know this talk about the view corridor from South Bayshore, we're well aware of that. I don't think that looking at the side of a building that is heavily landscaped would be any less attractive than what you see now from South Bayshore. So if we could look at that, I think it would be very attractive. We're also suggesting that this area be paved in some attractive paving and be looked at as an extra lovely area, so that when this building is phased out as a City Hall, it can go to a Pan Am museum or some other civic use, since it's now protected and it would give us a lovely forecourt somewhat in the manner of Viscaya, in the sense that this would be available both as an outside entrance and as a place for public events. What Mr. Bradshaw has suggested is just some very simple landscaping and I'm very happy to see that Mr. Bermello has alluded to this area also. I believe the difference in the plans here is that what we're asking for is a very simple Coconut Grove treatment, rather than a formal statement of architecture. Coconut Grove was one of the first places to settle in Miami. We'd like to keep its very simple quality. We think that's what separates us from the other communities. You can go a lot of places and find all sorts of landscaping that is very formal. We'd like to see this kept very simple and with native plantings, by the way. This was one of the things that came about from many, many conversations with residents. They would really love to see native plantings and very simple nature. Bradshaw suggests that we berm it only slightly so that cars would not be able to intrude, but that there be pathways, so this would be a part of Bayshore Drive visually, so people could walk up in here. Obviously, we did not include any of the parking structure or anything else here. We did not deal with that. That is the City's problem with Mr. Trainer or whomever. We simply did not suggest any parking be put here. The mixed use for this building certainly has been something that we said right from the start. I have spoken before this ever happened to Elizabeth Virrick about shared use of the building, probably two years ago. This is something that we've been very happy about. We're not the least bit concerned about having them excused. We don't believe the marina sharehold should... lease area should be taken away at all. We believe that should go as one separate area. I'm not sure what Mr. Luft means about.... APPLAUSE. ....about access. By the way, there's copious access there. The only thing between people and the water is cars, there is nothing else. Mr. Bradshaw did suggest that it would be attractive to treat this as a little village street and in 81 12 October 19, 1984 1 14 front of Mr. Trainer's place to put a nice, you know, some sort of brick surfacing and perhaps a couple of little shops there, which we know would be on the parking side, but I believe that we could make some sort of negotiation that way to give that a charming appearance and make that look like a little street, that this was just something that would add wz to it. The Kennedy Park issue, I know we're fighting that on a different forum with you all. This is a problem of the county having asked for money for the City to do this planning. We think also that this needs to be kept very rX gip' simple. Mr. Bradshaw did put in copious extra parking right "> here. He did it in a little bit different manner than Mr. Bermello did, and I'm not sure what Mr. Bermello's revised plan included with that. We did talk extensively and I believe we were in substantial agreement that this should be left as an avenue of royal palms and the parking should go right here. But what we're most interested in in Kennedy � Park is that this not be seen as a place for any more organized activities. It was, as I think all of you remember, a passive ark. We fought very hard for the money p 9 Y Y for it and Willy took me to task about the patsy park, but in the definition that with then, we meant not organized + recreational activities, such as teams coming in and using it constantly or something of that nature. That is a free '4- and lovely park. I'd like to speak very carefully about the issue that has been raised repeatedly about Coconut Grove people being selfish about this area and not wanting other people to come. We have never suggested that other people not come here. We would simply like to make it possible for 4 1'' them to park their cars and to move around as safely as we x would like to move around. We really do believe there are 4:. ways, the tram service is a marvelous idea. I think there are other things that we could do for off site parking. This area is so beautiful and so simple that if we start messing it up and putting parking on site, we're going to have a monument to the automobile. I believe the Dinner Key Exhibition Hall, now that Mr. Ferre has seen to it that we have it, we fought about that many years ago and we do have it now. Now that we have it, I'll cooperate with the inevitable. We need to use it as much as possible. We need - to put programs in there that will be for the good of Coconut Grove and for the good of the people of Miami. I think we can do it if we put some parking around it; I think certainly putting the other facilities in that were suggested, the dining facilities. I'm sure you all remember - just a month or so ago, we came before you, Mr. Wiser, Mr. Margolies, and a number of others came before you to suggest _- =_ that we use some of the bed tax money for that center. I think this is vital to Coconut Grove. That certainly doesn't sound like we're trying to keep people out. I think we're trying to bring people in in the best possible sense. I can only offer you that other communities around the - country are beginning to experience more and more problems. -_ Piedmont Park in Atlanta is an area, and Baltimore C&N News this week carried a short item on Georgetown, there are more and more places where residents are saying "enough." I don't want us to be in that posture here in Coconut Grove. Please, let's get together and have something attractive, -_ something that we can live with, that does not encourage more parking on the water side of Bayshore Drive, something - - that keeps the landscaping simple. I really hope you look carefully at the plans around Dinner Key Exhibition Center. By the way, I want to say it right now, if you are willing to go with what we're saying about the little tiny service shops, would you please put in -I'm not sure what the words are. I'm sure the City Attorney knows. -set asides, I guess, -- it is. There are Black and White Coconut Grove merchants = who ought to have the dibbies on those shops. Those are the people, I can tell you, we have got Carl Primes and Scotties, who sell groceries in the Grove for years, those sl 13 October 19, 1984 men ought to have a chance to be there to sell bread and hamburger and milk and cokes and beer and things like this. There are other things in the Grove. We're saying, set aside those for Grove merchants and give a share of it to the ethnic mix, we need that in the Grove. If we can do that, we will have a place that people want to come, that tourist magazines will write about, we'll have something that's simple, that Coconut Grove people can be proud of. I want to say very clearly that this thing about public access to the bay puzzles all of us. We have public access to the bay. All of us can go to the bay right now. It's a question of whether you want to go to the bay or whether you want to walk on boardwalks. Most of us really just want to go to the bay. I think boardwalks are charming, but this Dinner Key Master Plan as it was first given to you all, would cost $14 million. We're offering you a very simple plan, a plan that I believe we could do with joint ventures with the public, supporting private developers, and general ways of developing this area with the exception of the parking around Dinner Key. I think that you will find that we will work with you. We'll try to support whatever you're doing, if we can work together on the Dinner Key parking to make it attractive and make it workable there. But we're asking you very clearly keep Coconut Grove marine: Leave our leasehold as it is. We want a full service marina there. We do not need part of the hangers removed. We want the full service marina. We want our beautiful parks kept as they are without any parking at all in them. We'd love to have a new park here. Mayor Ferre, I thought what you did last night was marvelous. I love the idea of having a park named for Marjorie Stoneman Douglas, but I think maybe, just maybe this would be a great park to name after Marjorie Stoneman Douglas. This is the history of Coconut Grove, right here from there to there. I think that would be the most magnificent gift that we could give Marjorie and that we could give all of us, as I said to J.L., his grandchildren someday. I hope that you will listen to the people who are going to speak about this and remember we don't want to keep people out of Coconut Grove. We just want to treat Coconut Grove kindly, while they're here. APPLAUSE. Mayor Ferret The next speaker will now be Marilyn Reed, Marilyn, O.K., I'll call you up later. Garson Malcolm, Mr. Malcolm. I'm sorry, does Merrill Stevens want to make their presentation at this time? Would you rather do it now? Mr. Malcolm, I've already called you up, so if you want to make a statement, I'll respect that. Mr. Malcolm: Well, I'm in no particular hurry. Mayor Ferret If you don't mind waiting, then we'll let Merrill Stevens make their presentation and then we'll call you next. Mr. Merrill: Mr. Mayor, I have a prepared statement that may run in excess of three minutes in as much as... Mayor Ferret As I understand, you had asked for twenty minutes? Mr. Merrill: No, sir, not twenty minutes, certainly not more than ten minutes. Mayor Ferret Fine, we'll give you ten minutes. If you run a little bit over, we'll give you some more time. Mr. Merrill.: Thank you, sir. Mr. Mayor, Commissioners, I'm here trying to preserve Dinner Key's full service marina. In Miami and in Coconut Grove this issue ought to be "Mom al 14 October 19, 1984 and apple pie". But instead, once again, I'm forced to argue against a $14 million master plan that would cut away more than 50% of the full service boat yard and forever alter the character of Coconut Grove, a plan whose whole heart and soul is made of cement. Gentlemen, the presentation that you have seen from Jack Luft has been playing in this community now for months and it's had terrible reviews. No amount of tinkering has changed its basic flaws or the public's opposition to it. The Planning Advisory Board has rejected it. The Waterfront Advisory Board rejected it. The Coconut Grove Civic Club rejected it. The Tigertail Association opposes it and so does the governor's River Committee and the Marine Council and so do the people. When citizens took a straw vote right here in City Hall at a Planning Advisory Board meeting, the vote was 200 to 4 against this plan. I have repeatedly asked who speaks for this plan other than the planners themselves. Well, it turns out that its only advocate, -and I am shocked at thisl -is the Miami Herald, which counsels you, "Don't listen to these people here tonight. All they do is live here." Well most members of the Planning Advisory Board do not live in Coconut Grove, and most members of the Waterfront Advisory Board do not live in Coconut Grove, but they studied this plan and they did more than just reject it. They passed almost identical resolutions that read, and S.,,• I quote: "Recommending that there be a full service marina y<' at Dinner Key, no reduction in the present size of the marina property, and that all the leases =, expire concurrently. _- Gentlemen, that was democracy in action, and the people " cheered. Let me address those arguments as they relate to the boat yard, which is central to the character of Coconut - Grove. Among the excuses I've heard for cutting the Merrill Stevens property in half, the lamest is that boat yards -- cater to the rich. Well, first I can assure you that not _ all boaters are rich. But those who are would be the first to tell you that no economic system ever invented more - efficiently redistributes dollars than a well maintained yacht. e ,APPLAUSE. You see? When you have a boat, you are helping to support _= dozens of people and dozens of businesses of all economic - = classes. True, Coconut Grove belongs to all of Miami, but I - -- think all of Miami expects that the fight to keep Coconut - Grove's charm will be led by Coconut Grove residents. There's nothing selfish or narrow-minded about Grove people saying that $14 million could be better spent in Overtown or Little Havana or Liberty City or just a few blocks away on Grand Avenue. There's nothing selfish or narrow minded about preserving the Grove's character. Boating in Miami is __— not just recreational. We are international business. Nation-wide, boating brings in $11 billion a year. State- wide, let's look at our other industries. Citrus, airline, - - tourism, they are all suffering. The boating industry is -= growing and it must have room to grow. Yet the planners want to chop in half the only full service marina between the Miami River and the Florida Keys. They want to use it to help build more concrete canyons. They want to use it to - build more boutiques when right here in Coconut Grove store after store doesn't know how they're going to pay next month's rent. Gentlemen, this plan will cripple one of the few industries that shows signs of health, an industry that truly what Coconut Grove ought to be. And that's not far- sighted planning. That's folly. We know our business, and if we thought a boat yard could operate on half the property and be truly efficient, and of course pay half the rent, - we'd be the fist to say so. But common sense says we can't, because there won't be fewer boats in the futuret there are going to be more. They won't be getting smaller: we know sl 15 October 191 1984 they're getting bigger. They won't have less equipmentt they're going to have more equipment that is more sophisticated. The planners admit they did not talk to us. They say that they talked to others in the industry. I ask this. Who were these experts who say the boat yard does not - need all of its property? What are their names? Did they appear before the advisory boards? Are they here tonight? Are their names in that master plan? Where are they? The heart of this master plan serves only one purpose, and that is to transfer land from one use to another. On reading this plan, you learn an amazing thing. There is no research, no documentation, nothing to support the idea that the boat yard doesn't need all of its space. The planners came out one day, never consulting us, and they counted boats on our yard. They assumed that those same boats stay there year round. So they jumped to a conclusion that we cater to about 150 boat owners. That assumption was wrong. The fact is that those boats change on a regular basis. We service more than 3,000 boats a year. Three thousand boat owners, thousands more guests, hundreds of craftsmen and small businesses, countless people who come to look at and buy boats; heads of industry, who would go to Ft. Lauderdale or some other area if this area becomes inhospitable to boating. Let me put the boat yard use in perspective. Over at Peacock Park there is a soft -ball field and it sits on nearly three acres of prime waterfront land. It doesn't make the City a nickel of profit. Many days it's used only two or three hours, if at all. Yet there isn't a planner or a developer who would have the nerve to say, "Hey, let's plow up that soft -ball field and build a parking garage there." How do they say that thousands of boaters are less important to this community than a few hundred soft -ball players? Commissioners, Mr. Mayor, the full service marina is an important amenity, just like that soft -ball field. It adds character and it adds charm. The only real difference is the boaters pay their own way. Through Merrill Stevens boaters pay more than $150,000 a year to the City. APPLAUSE. --- The final argument we hear is that the boat yard land can be used more efficiently. Of course, that's true. We said that for years. We said, renew the lease and we'll put in the capital outlays. There's no argument there, but to argue that boat storage and boat space isn't important to a full service marina is absurd. It reveals a profound ignorance of boats and boat yard operation. Now I have never suggested that the City of Miami has any obligation whatsoever to Merrill Stevens. It's true, we had the original idea to buy the Pan Am property and it's true that we made it possible for the City of Miami to buy the land we're meeting on tonight. The record will reflect that we pay every dime and we pay it on time, but that's not my point. If bidding is required, we will bid just like - anybody else. We will take our chances. What I'm arguing - — for is the boat yard property, intact, no matter who operates it. If it is hacked up, and if the planners are wrong, if boaters and the boating industry and the community suffer, then it's a decision that can never be undone. Cutting up that boat yard is like cutting down trees. Once it's gone, there won't be any more. The public is not here to support this plan. They want you, gentlemen, to reject it tonight. APPLAUSE. Very respectfully asking that there be no more meetings that last until midnight, no more meaningless modifications, they want you to keep the boat yard as a boat yard full and intact. They want you to instruct the City to start the bidding procedures. They want you to vote this plan down sl 16 October 191 1984 and you have their support for that. Thank you, Mr. Mayor and Commissioners. APPLAUSE Mayor Ferret Mr. Malcolm, please. Mr. Garson Malcolm= My name is Garson Malcolm and my address is 3375 Crystal Court. It's pretty tough to follow that act. Gentlemen, Bayshore Drive, in front of Coral Reef Yacht. Club is flooded right now. It hasn't rained. Bayshore between Aviation Avenue and Mercy Hospital is a disaster; it's been crumbling for years. Old Main Highway, from the playhouse through LeJeune Road, up through Ingraham Highway, after every rain storm, it crumbles. In a couple of weeks, after a couple of hundred cars have torn up their front ends, they patch it up until the next rain storm. Everybody I've talked to says we've got the cart before the horse, because the priorities are all out of order. We haven't even started on the downtown waterfront project. Now we're going ahead with plans to tear up the Grove. The Grove is a disaster now. On week -ends you can't drive through the Grove. In fact where I live, I can't go to Key Biscayne; I can't go to South Miami on week -ends because I can't get through either direction because of traffic. if you see a policeman around the area, they're trying to get away from the area, instead of doing something about it. Our priorities are all mixed up. I think this gentleman has covered about everything else that I had in mind, but think before you mess up the Grove any more. Thank you. APPLAUSE. Mr. Perez: Mrs. Reid. Mr. Howard Sutter. Mr. Howard Sutter: My name is Howard Sutter. I've been using the waterfront around here for about eighteen years. I do a lot of sailing on the bay. I got my first job working at Merrill Stevens as a sailmaker. My first job was at Merrill Stevens in the upstairs area as a sailmaker. I don't think there is any way that anybody against this plan could say anything wrong up here right now, so I'm not even nervous. I'd like to address the basic illogic of the proposal that we've seen. Mr. Bermello -I can't even say the man's name- proposed a baywalk from Coconut Grove Sailing Club on up. One of the questions that came from the Commission was "why not a cross in front of the sailing club itself?" His answer was, "we can't do it because it interferes too much with their operation." That ought to be the theme of this whole plan; it interferes too much with everybody's operation! It benefits a very, very few. We've also heard the proponent say they wanted to cut down the trees on the spoil islands to make parks out there. That was the last time they spoke. That comment reflects an ignorance of what those spoil islands are doing out there; they're creating a harbor. The baywalk won't provide public access. I asked myself when I see the restaurant whose architecture could be described as a berm of dirt, where the public access is there. You can't do it to the marina because it interferes too much with their operation. You cannot have a baywalk going across where you're taking big boats and trying to put them in the water. A big issue seems to be parking and it seems to be a question of it has been raised about a contract responsibility to Mr. Trainer. I was here in this room years ago when Mr. Trainer was bidding for that place and I remember him promising that he was going to take that underwood dock and make sure it was still a full service marina. Where is that promise? APPLAUSE. There are two basic things that people hang their hats on. one is the highest use of the property and other is public access. I've already touched on public access with the 91 17 October 19, 1984 question of the restaurant. The highest use historically of this area is for the marina. I don't mean just Merrill Stevens. Mr. Trainer benefits. The Yacht Clubs benefit. Dinner Key marina benefits. All of these places benefit by this use of this area. This is the use of the area as historically envisioned by the original master plan. But that plan is very, very seldom mentioned now because we don't get anywhere near it.. This plan is for the few people who stand to make most money by putting up concrete and that's what we're trying to keep out of the Grove. We are trying to keep Coconut Grove from becoming a line of designer jean malls. We're trying to keep Coconut Grove a place where people can come down and enjoy. If you want designer jean malls, and if you want something that cannot be reversed and ultimately becomes like Worth Avenue in Palm Beach, fine, remember it's closed half the year. Don't sell out the people of this community. Don't sell me out; I use the area. Don't sell these people out. They use the area. Don't sell out our children, and I don't have any of those. Thank you. APPLAUSE. Mr. Perez: Mr. John Brennan. Mr. John Brennan: I don't, see any Honorable Mayor, Honorable Commissioners, my name is John Brennan, 2336 Swanson Avenue. We've had a couple of tough acts to follow. I'm going to repeat that the public has listened to Mr. Bermello's plan. Bless his heart, he's surely been working on it. But I have yet to be in a meeting where even a small portion, except for the two to two hundred odd that he's had for support has supported the plan. I saw some of the earlier plans, and to quote Joanna, they really weren't too many changes from the beginning to the end. I did hear a mention a boxing gym where we were talking about a concert center. I don't know if that has been a change or not. However, I do know that the some of the trees that were assigned to be planted along here, among them was an orchid tree, which for the locals, that is a trash tree. We don't have enough money for maintenance. We ended up pulling the chickies down in Peacock Park. You are going to have the Parks Department out sweeping underneath these trees. There are fruit trees assigned on this. To get back into Kennedy Park, we talked about planning... the plan talked about planning, increasing about 1% of the mangrove trees out there. I don't think that's going to benefit the park at all. As far as the Merrill, I mean, yes, the Virrick Gym, there is a note, plaque in the hallway that says it was given by the federal government to the City for parks and recreation. I think it's already stretched a little bit. I don't think that a concert hall would fit that pattern. The boat yards have been beat rather badly, but one of the points we've missed is that the rivers, the City of Miami river, is a little short on boat yards already. Tommy's Boat Yard is on a year to year lease and nobody knows if it's going to make it next time around. Polls Boat Yard has a "for sale" sign on it. I didn't have the time to tour the river: I know there are a couple of others getting ready to unload. If you chop this particular piece of boat yard in half, the City is going to be very, very short of property where a boat can be maintained. I have had a boat for a short time. I know a little teeny bit about it, but I can tell you this, when somebody says they're going to put a full service marina in a piece of property and they're going to do minor repairs there, they're a little short on their information. You don't do minor repairs in a full service boat yard. If you're going to have a welder, you don't have one that welds things the size of your pencil. You have to do some serious welding, build some serious frames. You need a decent piece of property. Most of this, Mr. Merrill, sl 18 October 19, 1984 thank you, Mr. Merrill covered so much of this, it's pretty tough to cover much more, but do look at the "no trespassing" sings on the City docks the next time you hear someone talk about public access, because there are no trespassing signs on the ends of each of these piers that keep the public off or are supposed to to protect the boat owners, also to protect the public from falling in the water and killing themselves, which would leave the City liable. To make it real short, gentlemen, I would hope that you t would turn this proposal down as the public has for the last six months, I guess it's been going on. The public has never supported, whether you are talking about the Waterfront Board or any other group. Please turn it down, take a look at the alternate plan in a serious vein; I think it has an awful lot of merit. I thank you very much for your time. d APPLAUSE. Mayor Ferre: The next speaker will be Robert Trailands. Mr. Robert Trailands: Mr. Mayor, Commissioners, I'm Robert Trailands. I'm a writer. I've lived in Miami for 30 years. I've dealt with boats and boating almost all my life in my writing and living aboard and owning yachts. I've been a customer of Merrill Stevens for some 25 years. For the last six, almost seven years now, I've kept a boat there. Now I have two boats there. One is my sons, which I'm also taking care of. I know most of the people who work at the yard. I've watched what they do. I've seen that this is one of the prime industries in this area, because you have here a boat yard, which is more than just a ship yard, it's a facility that is known the world over from Antwerp to Liverpool. In the years that I've been there, I've seen yachtsmen and boaters and people from all over the world -_ come in from as far away as South Africa, South America, people who have seen their advertising and followed their itineraries, always planning to make their stops there. In this area, particularly in the Grove area, the yard itself presents one facility, which I think is more important than -- any other for one reason, as a major repair yard, it gives the yachtsmen coming from all over a facility they can reach in the case of an emergency or a tropical storm. For example, in the last tropical storm that we had, the entire area was cleared out. There wasn't any available space at all left. Every yacht in the area went flying right to Merrill Stevens. There wasn't a skid left; no one had any space or anything other than what the yard had to offer. But even more important than that, I used to write the Arthur Godfrey Show. I did a lot of writing around with Arthur Godfrey. He was a friend of many, many yachtsmen. He himself was one. When he came to the yard with me some years ago, he said if this yard ever went, there would go _ Miami history. So this represents a place in this country where the first Pan American clippers flew and opened up South America, flew to South America. So we have a heritage here to protect. That's not as important as it is to consider the future, which we are not too familiar about in figuring out what's going to happen. But if in the event of a national emergency, the problem might possibly arise that could again be taken over or demanded by Coast Guard and possibly even the Navy Department. I've seen the Air Force's boats into the yard many times and other government vessels, the police boats as well as the Coast Guard yard people come in very frequently. I ask that you please consider, the most important thing to remember about this that you have a boat yard. It is a major facility. It's known the world over. The major yacht races are more or lees launched from this area. The little ships that race in the sea and all of the other races, this is the yard that tley depend on. If that is to go, so is I think the sl 19 October 19, 1984 general character of this area would also be greatly affected. Finally, the other thing that I'd like to mention is that fact and this is something I saw, it began on last Good Friday, everybody here in this area went home and in came a big barge into Monty Trainer's area and they begun to unload huge rocks, building the piers that Monty Trainer extended down this area. I called Tuesday the zoning department and they said he had no permit. I also called the army engineers. They said he had no permit. Every attempt I made to try to find out how it was possible for Monty Trainer to extend double the length of his piers as he did; this nobody seemed to answer. I think if he did this on his own volition without any permission legally or otherwise, I think that would negate any other conditions that would perhaps be binding you to a contractual agreement to provide him with 400 parking spaces. Thank you very much. Mayor Ferre: Mr. Manager, could we have at the appropriate time a report on the accusation that has just been made on the legality of the extension of that and whether it was properly permitted and whether it was legally done? The next speaker is Mr. James Merrill. Mr. James C. Merrill: Mr. Mayor and Commissioners, I'm James C. Merrill. I'm here as a designated hitter only if the prime mover in our outfit didn't make the scene and he's done it. James was here so I'll sit down. Thank you. APPLAUSE. Mayor Ferre: Is that what you call team work? That's good. All right, Monty Steel. You don't wish to say anything, Ms. Steel? Are there any other public speakers at this time. Oh, I'm sorry, Marilyn Reed was on television. Ms. Marilyn Reed: It's just so you can follow what I'm talking about. For the record, my name is Marilyn Reed. I am representing the Friends of the Everglades. We have a membership of 3,000. I am, as everybody knows, an environmentalist, also specialist in r-omitting in state and federal law. I am also representing- a Central Grove Home Owners Association. I'd like to �egin by saying that certainly, you should pay Mr. Bermello for his work. I have no objection to that. That is behind us. What I'm looking to is the implementation of this plan and whether you choose to do that tonight. As master plan is to solve problems. This plan creates problems. The research has been poor. The material in the book is shot -full of errors. I want to walk you through the waterfront part of it to explain what I'm saying to you, and then I have two other items to touch on very shortly, will be traffic and the Merrill Stevens. Let me clear up something that was just mentioned. I can assure you that Monty Trainer has his permits for the extension of that dock. I went to public hearings on it. Maybe some didn't know how to find out, but he did get a permit to extend that dock several years ago. So unless he's in some other form of violation, I know he's got the permit for that. O.K.? Beginning with number one on the site plan, they are recommending a dock with a structure over it. They are trying to create a historic old structure. You cannot get that permitted today. Before I walk you through these seven items, early on, and I believe Joanne gave you the date of when we all stet down at the church, I told Mr. Bermello and Mr. Luft at the time to please get in touch with me, to please not reinvent the wheel and make the same errors that were made back in the old Dinner Key Master Plan the day it was printed, it was not permittablei most of the stuff in there was not permittable. So we didn't want to do that again. They did not get in touch with me at ail. They have committed the sl 20 October 19, 1984 same error. Number one is permittable. Number two on I the Seminole Dock area. NC this and Commissioners, yoL project to straighten out tr out of court. We got this t included the Seminole Docks. care of water taxis. We move pumps out of the end, which back to the Seminole Docks. back up to the corps in the What Mr. Bermello and Mr. Lu the permits and coordinate recommend other than what is a dock with a structure not our chart shows some changes in w we went -and Mayor you know know this- I brought you a e mess after B.R.D. got kicked sing designed properly and that That is permitted. That takes d the old B.R.D., proposed fuel was dangerous. We moved them You simply can't be running tate and remodify and remodify. Et should have done was look at it with those permits and not permitted. There you will cret the water taxi, you'll get your fueling pumps, and you'll get your various services, your shrimp, your ice, etc. Moving out to item number 3 on the Mole Island, we got your permits right on time for your Dinner Key at D.E.R. We had problems at the corps. I'm going to be saying some things here today that have not been heard before. We had some ..< people complaining to the corps about the dock on the south side. They delayed the process, so in order to move that up, I knew that the port of Miami needed space to plant some mangroves. We got them all together, the permitting people, r the port people, the City of Miami people, everybody. We went on that island. The plans are ready now to come to you ' a all for final approval so we can move ahead with it. What � the port will do is remove a blind spot there, which was the problem anyway, a navigational blind spot; they will backhoe that and use that area for some mangrove planting. So that is in the works and that's coming to you eventually for final permitting. Item number 4 was denied by the corps and the D.E.R. and cannot be permitted as proposed here. Had they bothered to check, they would have known that. What we #_ have now is our plans, we got all the public's input in it. It was Ron Faulkie when he was with Greenleaf and Alfredo and your dock group and myself and we got together with the marine people and designed some testing ideas. What they are are pilings and some arms and we're going to put them out there. The permitting people have told us that they could give us a temporary permit and we'll have to monitor it for a year. Eventually you can get an anchorage; but it's got to be designed properly. Item number, they have shown three docks out there. These are absolutely not permittable; they're a navigational hazard. Two or three, four years ago at Spencer Meredith he put a dock in and the corps made him tear it back almost all the way. This is not permittable. Item number b probably is not permittable - because of the use and I don't see the agencies allowing the width of the dock as proposed. Item number 7, and I would call your attention to this, the Dinner Key Master Plan was already, I mean for your marina, was already in place and permitted when they started doing this plan, they just picked it up and sunk it in here. The same thing applies to the David Kennedy Park. Others have done that design. They picked it up and put it in here. This is in trouble right now. They got three different sets of plans. One has been permitted by the D.E.R. The corps is having trouble with the navigational hazards. Now they're going to send another plan that was approved by the P.A.B. So you see, -- these things get a little sticky, and I just wanted you to know, this is a mess. Moving on, APPLAUSE. Let me jump from the waterfront. I think I've convinced you that what they have proposed in their plan is just not permittable; they got problems. There are ways to get good things permitted, such as I've talked to you, Mr. Dawkins, about the children's beach. I'm almost ready to bring_ it to you and the Mayor and Manager and everybody else. We almost have this ready. We got a delightful thing for you; it's sl 21 October 19, 1984 coming. On the parking, McFarland, they proposed parallel parking. This is the worst thing you can do on one of the widest streets in town, because you reduce the parking area. We don't need that. That's unacceptable and again, that's poor planning. Come down to in front of the Coconut Grove Sailing Club, you have good planning there now because you're movement of traffic merges; it doesn't but in to the full traffic. They proposed to bring the road down and butt it into Bayshore, which is overloaded and over capacity now; so this is not good planning. Kenny Myers Park they want to put a skating area. We need this for trailer boats. They're already using it for trailer boats. We need to expand that. South Bayshore Drive from Aviation . . . .Let me jump from the waterfront. I think I've convinced you that what they have proposed in their plan is just not permittable; they got problems. There are ways to get good things permitted, such as I've talked to you, Mr. Dawkins, about the children's beach. I'm almost ready to bring it to you and the Mayor and Manager and everybody else. We almost have this ready. We got a delightful thing for you; it's coming. On the parking, McFarland, they proposed parallel parking. This is the worst thing you can do on one of the widest streets in town, because you reduce the parking area. We don't need that. That's unacceptable and again, that's poor planning. Come down to in front of the Coconut Grove Sailing Club, you have good planning there now because you're movement of traffic merges; it doesn't but in to the full traffic. They proposed to bring the road down and butt it into Bayshore, which is overloaded and over capacity now; so this is not good planning. Kenny Myers Park they want to put a skating area. We need this for trailer boats. They're already using it for trailer boats. We need to expand that. South Bayshore Drive from Aviation... In the Master plan, they're recommending widening. That is historically preserved and it cannot be widened. I was instrumental in getting that state statute passed. They should go look at the state statutes. The parking garage they proposed at Merrill Stevens where they would want to remove one shed, if you've looked at the sketch of it, it looks like a mountain; it's ridiculous. It's just a big, stepped back mountain with bushes on it. It'll probably go three to four stories high. I'm opposed to that. Joint use recommendation, I can't agree with that; I think it's unacceptable. I think they went beyond their charge when they recommended that. What I want to recommend to you as an alternative, when I served on the task force for the Coconut Grove Master Plan, we tried and tried to get it into that master plan. I'm going to try again. In the back of Blue Water Marina, there's a large area used for ground level parking. It is perfect for a parking garage. It will take care of all projected needs. You can walk from there to get to the park. You can tram from there. It has ingress and it has egress. APPLAUSE. You can go up; it will be hidden behind the facade of the store fronts so it won't impact on the Grove, as we know it. But certainly I would be for going four, five, six stories; whatever is needed to carry the load that is needed for those parks and remove this parking garages from the park, use that. I think if the City administration worked on it and talked to the property owners, that they might be able to work out something. I would certainly hope so. I believe they can do that. I understand that whole block is being put together in pieces right now for development. This is the ideal time to get to that company and see if you could work out something for that parking garage. I have to comment on the projections in here for the boat slips or for the cars that are needed. All the figures are wrong. I won't take up your time going into that. I've checked the 61 22 October 19, 1984 Eigures of the present number of car spaces for the Dinner (ey Marina and for the expansion. All those figures are ,rrong. kPPLAUSE. low, these are documents that I got from he D.N.R. I have a :omputer print out. This names every marina in the area. Phere was no excuse for all the errors in here naming narinas that are not in the Miami Harbor. Again, we've got Eictitious information. I won't go into that in detail, but [ think if you look through the plan, as you look through it, watch for that; it is wrong. Mr. Luft and Mr. Bermello 2ould have gotten the same documents I got. This also aertains to similar land leases; the information there is wrong again. As far as Merrill Stevens goes, I'm not going to overlap with anything that's been said about it. We have i great deal of support for keeping Merrill Stevens Boat lard and Repair there. What I told the P.A.B. and what I'm joing to tell you and remind you is that for the last several years you have gone on record in your City 'ommission minutes -I have the transcripts- of wanting to sake this a world class marina area. We cannot do that if ae don't have the supporting services necessary. Those )oats will go some other county. Let's look at the Miami liver; I'm on the governor's committee for that and we're :oming up with a master plan. Indeed they are in trouble up :hat river. We are going to come up with a master plan. 3ut there is a certain amount of speculative development joing on. We are at risk for an industry that puts over a )illion dollars a year into this community and I've checked :hose figures too. I don't come up here and tell you something unless I've checked it carefully. We're afraid we're going to lose the marine industry up the river. The governor created our committee to keep that a working river, ).K.? In 1979 you all had a plan you ordered, it was 3rought to you. It was done by Greenleaf and Talesca and most of that couldn't be done today. You can't put what was ,ecommended there, it was on Virginia Key for boat repair ind that sort of thing. You just couldn't get it permitted today. We have a paucity of space up the river. Therefore, Je need to keep this facility here. So I would urge you to :onsider all the information and input you're getting. If tou want a world class marina, you must have the back up ;ervices; you have to have them or they're going to go ;omeplace else and you're going to lose that economic input, ihich does support Coconut Grove businesses, has for years, ;rocery stores, supplies, needs, and that sort of thing. :n the book on page 109, as I said, I brought this up at the ?.A.B., and they have rejected what I'm saying about the seed for this marine repair places and boat yards. Well, I :eject their rejection. I'm going to tell you. 1PPLAUSE. 'here people have no knowledge of marinas, their needs. !hey have no knowledge of state laws, federal laws. The many errors that are in this plan indicate that there is ,3oor research and that their opinions are worthless. So I rould ask you and urge you Commissioners to consider these )roblems and ask you not to waste $14 million implementing .his plan. That money, if it is available, should go to our needy and we certainly have them. There are people in this town that are hungry. Thank you very much. APPLAUSE. Mayor Ferret The next speaker will be Mr. Peter Clements, Chairman of the Waterfront Advisory Board. Mr. Clements. Mr. Peter Clements: Mr. Mayor, Mr. Commissioners, my name is Peter Clements, the Chairman of the Waterfront Board, I only came here to report the findings of the Waterfront Advisory Board. The Waterfront Advisory Board unanimously voted to advise the Mayor and the Commissioners to keep the 01 23 October 19, 1984 Merrill Stevens leasehold as a full service marina. Without encroaching on any part of the property for either parking or a boardwalk. Some of the statements that went into making that decision were that when the proposal was first made, I remember that one of the Commissioners asked why not a boardwalk in front of the Coconut Grove Sailing Club. Mr. Bermello answered that it would interfere with their operation. if anyone here knows anything about a boat yard, you'll find that a boardwalk would interfere much more with the operation of a boat yard, the safe operation of a boat yard, more than it would a yacht club. Some of the other discussions that went against the parking garage being in front of the Merrill Stevens property on Bayshore was that in the past, when there was a need for hurricane emergency storage, that area was used for putting boats on dry land. Also some of the plan is addressing view of the bay and so forth and the height of a parking garage is certainly... does not fit in that area. I just want to let the Commissioners know that the Waterfront Board was unanimous, both this last boat... this has come before the Waterfront Board three times in the last three years before it got to the Commissioners. Each time it was unanimously decided that Miami needs a full service marina on Biscayne Bay and the area that is allotted for that is not even adequate. Thank you. APPLAUSE. Mayor Ferre: Mr. Clements, did Mr. Clements leave or can we get him back here. There is a question. He's left. There is a question from Commissioner Plummer to Mr. Clements. Is he coming back? Mr. Plummer: That doesn't look like Clements. Mayor Ferre: Mr. Clements, you move too quickly. Why don't you come back. There is a question from Commissioner Plummer for you. Mr. Clements: Certainly. Mr. Plummer: Mr. Clements, you spoke to one small segment of the plan. Why sayeth the Waterfront Board to the rest of the plan? Mr. Clements: The Waterfront Board heard Mr. Faulkie and Mr. Bermello concerning the aspect of the full service marina and the Merrill Stevens leasehold. Mr. Plummer: Only? Mr. Clements: Only. Mayor Ferre: And didn't take a position on any other part of this waterfront plan? Mr. Clements: As a matter of fact, when Mr. Bermello was first hired to do this study, the Waterfront Board then chaired by John Brennon had asked Mr. Bermello and Mr. Luft to come to the Waterfront Board for some input before even formulating this plan. We never could get them before the Waterfront Board. We had breakfast with them quite informally, but never did we have their proposal or any input into this plan. I'm trying only to speak only for what the Waterfront Board had any of their decisions, rather than my personal feelings about the plan. -` Mayor Ferre: Thank you, Mr. Clements. Are there any other speakers at this time? There are a lot of things that we need a response from the administration. Would you write _i these things down. I think I want to let the public portion sl 24 October 19, 1904 F` is of it continue until we finish, then we'll get the questions. Now you may speak. Ms. Joanne Holshouser: Thank you, I'm speaker for Monty Steel surrender time. I'm always happy when Marilyn is here to talk about all thq facts and the figures, because she does it so well and she sets it out before you and it's very clear when she talks about it. But if we could talk about what's out there right now, what's all around us just for a couple of minutes and think about that great, big, beautiful open space and how precious that is to us and how close we are to losing it, because if it is built on, the buildings will never go away. The boardwalks will never go away. The docks will never go away. It is so needed for all of us to have that open space. Thirty spokes will converge in the hub of a wheel, but the use of the cart will depend on the part of the hub that is void. With a wall all around a clay bowl is molded, but the use of the bowl will depend on the part of the bowl that is void. Cutting out windows and doors in the house as you build, but the use of the house will depend on the space and the walls that is void. So advantage has had from whatever is there, but usefulness arises from whatever is not. Please leave us the usefulness of out beautiful open spaces and let the joy arise in all of us living there and loving our waterfront and our parks and our empty spaces. Thank you. APPLAUSE. Mayor Ferre: Spencer, how many other speakers are there? I saw several other hands. Would you please step up and write your name, give your name to the Clerk? Any other speakers? Those of you who wish to speak, please come up to the Clerk. Mr. Spencer Meredith: Mr. Mayor, members of the Commission, my name is Spencer Meredith. I'm president of Grove Key Marina. There have been a great many comments made just now, particularly as they relate to the Merrill Stevens property. I think it's safe to say that there is a very strong general consensus that everyone feels that this property should continue as a full service marina, that it should not be materially significantly diminished in size and that its term of lease should run until the year 2012, which would put it on a corresponding term with the Grove Key Marina, the two properties would have the same term. I personally agree with that, not just from the point of view of Grove Key Marina, but also as someone from the marine industry. Obviously, we all feel the same way about the waterfront. We realize its importance. Waterfront means boats. Boats need servicing. While we would like to maximize Lne waterrront, it may the golden eggs, we could maxim this particular case, the marine and the Merrill Stevens property less than 10% of the total City think that because of the futu Marina and the other boats tha would be a major mistake to red reason I wanted to comment was i go out for public bid. I th actual necessity that instigat first place. When the City goe recently done that in the form proposal. I think the public ge for proposal as tell us what yo other occasions goes out for so] ask the Commission at this time itself clear on that one point Merrill Stevens property out f proposal, I think there will be think people will think, "My gol De iixe the goose that lays lze it out of existence. In is represented by Grove Key represent probably a little is waterfront down there. I :e growth and the Dinner Key : are coming into the area, ice it in any way. The real is inevitable that property .nk that may have been the ad the master plan in the i out for public bid, it has of an R.F.P. , a request for nerally interprets a request i have in wind. The City on icitations for bid. I would to see if it's able to make Because if it puts the or bid on a request for a national interest, because I ihl We could do all knde of $l 25 October l9, 1984 things there." Even if you put some criteria as to what it may be# a request for proposal is far more broad in its approach than a solicitation for bid. i don't think that people who are in the marine industry, and that includes Merrill Stevens or anyone else who may be interested in it, can really compete effectively with someone who would be able to use that property for a so called higher and better use, i.e., greater retail, restaurants, etc. I think when the time comes to make a decision on the part of the Commission as to how that property should be used, it's going to be a lot more difficult at that time. So, since it's very clear that the public has had a chance to examine this issue over the last many months and certainly has expressed itself very forcefully on it and they're here today and expressed themselves that way, I would hope that the Commission is able to arrive at a decision and when the time comes to put that property out for bid, they do it as a solicitation for bid, and not as an open edit request for proposal. Thank you. APPLAUSE. Mayor Ferre: The next speaker is Mr. Calvin Jeffries. Mr. Calvin Jeffries: Ladies and gentlemen, I have lived at 3055 Kirk Street and Trapp Avenue for the past twenty years. I'm well acquainted with... I have a lot of friends at the Coconut Grove Sailing Club. I'm familiar with boats. I was born and raised on the Chesapeake. I sailed a 28 foot skip jack before I was ten years old. In 1939 I had to come to Miami on business, Raily Marlem Hardware, Southwest 1st Street and 1st Avenue, nice people. While I was here I was invited down to Dinner Key. Where the hell is Dinner Key? O.K., so I come to Dinner Key and here is one of the men that worked for Raily Marlem with a nice big boat where the sailing club is now. In 1939, that was my first trip. I got back here every couple of years until finally it took me to 1964 to move here. I think I live in the best place in the U.S. of A. Now, if you're going to take and get rid of what tourist people here, if you're going to get rid of your marine facilities, if you're going to make it impossible for anybody with a boat to get good service, O.K., go ahead, you're going to spoil it. Boutiques, put them down on McFarland or somewhere like that. You don't need them here. You don't need anything more than what you've got except for some additional parking which should go behind Grove Marina. That's where they put the boats when we had the last hurricane. I helped to pull boats and put them there. It worked out very nicely. There's no reason that area there could not be used for parking. No one can tell me that they need 400 or 800 or whatever additional number of parking spaces are, because every day in the week, I have occasion to go to the Grove. I go down to the bank three or four times a week. There's always plenty of parking. It's only week -ends that you have the problem. So I ask you, please, please don't ruin our Coconut Grovel APPLAUSE. Mayor Ferre: The next speaker is Catherine Marves and the next speaker is Anne Platt. Miss Platt, you can use this microphone, if you wish. Ms. Catherine Marvez: Mayor and Commissioners, as I said before this board before, I don't know very much about statistics, parking spaces, how much footage we need back from the bay. I live here in Coconut Grove. The home I live in was bought over 25 years ago by my grandfather. It is now owned by my family. That being the case, I receive all of the out of town guests to stay in my home. I've had people from New Zealand, people from Germany, and people from England staying in my home as well as my family members al 26 October 190 1984 who live here all over the United States. People who have come here from other countries have absolutely fallen in love with the Grove. The reason is because of the waterfronts. I do not take these people to downtown Miami to see parking garages and skyscrapers. I do not take these people over on Dixie Highway to see what's gone with the building of Metrorail. I take them to the bay, where they can walk, where they can sit, and have a glass of wine or a beer or whatever and where they can go and be amazed at the boats. That is what most of them have loved. They walk around the marina going, "Godl Wouldn't it be great to have one of these." It is a major attraction. Why anybody would want to put parking garages on waterfront property is beyond me. There has got to be.... APPLAUSE. There has got to be someplace else. It's like my cousin said, sooner or later, we're going to have one City from Miami over to Naples. I mean it's going to be just buildings and parking garages. Please, do not put these parking garages on waterfront people. This is what people are coming to the Grove for. They are not coming here to see parking garages on the waterfront. Everybody says we want people to come and enjoy the Grove. We want people to come and enjoy the waterfront. How can you ask the people to come and enjoy parking garages? You can't. Thank you very much. APPLAUSE. Mayor Ferre: The next speaker is Mr. Charlie George after Ms. Platt. Ms. Anne Platt: I guess it's time to talk about parking garages. First of all, I have to say I'm very impressed with all the work that's gone on. I worked with Jack Luft, with Joanne, and I've been to many hearings. I'm real impressed with the process. I got involved originally because I can't stand the idea of a parking lot between the bay and Bayshore Drive. Everything everybody said about open space, that's what the Grove is all about; however, we are growing. We're going to be developed and the cars have to park somewhere, but in the evenings if you come down here, you'll see the cars that are parked between the bay and Bayshore Drive are going across the street. They're going to the Grand Bay. They're going to Coconut Grove Hotel. They can park free here. Why not? I do it too. Why pay a valet? But the truth is there is a place to park if they want to. We don't need to build them a parking garage. I went to lunch at Monty's today. I went there at 12s30 and I had the choice of six or seven spaces. I didn't even have to look. I realize he wants to expand. I think his expansion is a good idea. Terremark building across the street, Monty needs his parking at night, mainly at night. The office building across the street on the corner of I think it is Aviation and Bayshore, it's going to be an office building. People in office buildings work from 9:00 to 5:00. People go to Monty's on the week -ends and they go there from 5:00 to 10:00 or 11:00 or 12:00 or whenever he closes. The buildings are going to be there. Let's make them a wee bit bigger, put a parking garage in them. Work with the developer. Give them their variance. Let the cars park there on the week -ends and in the evenings. Monty says he needs it at lunch. Granted, he does, but most of the people coming to lunch are going to work in those buildings and they've already got their car parked. We don't need to build a parking garage for them. The excellent, excellent part of all of this, the architect that's doing the City planning is also doing Terremark. Let them work together and design it. Keep the parking out of the parks. That's it. APPLAUSE. Bl 27 October 19, 1984 Mr. Charlie George: Mr. Mayor and Commissioners, I'll be brief. I've lived here all my life. Mr. Plummer: Charlie, for the record, your name. Mr. Charlie George: My name is Charlie George. I've lived here all my life. I've worked here all my life. I've had boats all my life. Merrill Stevens has been here all my life. They do a good job. I don't think there's... I think you'd be making a very serious mistake to reduce the full service marina that they pr�-:ide. I think you'd be making a big mistake if you do anything to inhibit the service that they render to the boating community here and I would respectfully suggest that you look at that part of the master plan very closely. I'm not in a position to comment on any other aspect of it. Thank you. APPLAUSE. Mayor Ferre: Are there any other public speakers at this time? I will now ask of the administration. Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I'll make a motion at this time the public hearing be closed. Mayor Ferre: J.L., knowing Joanne and Marilyn Reed and Monty Steel and the others, after their comments there may be some rebuttals and all that. Let's leave it open so they can rebut a little bit and then we'll close it off. For now, let's just hear from the administration and from the architect on the rebuttal, if there is any. Mr. Luft: I just wanted to say with regard to Mr. Clements' comment that we specifically invited Mr. Brennan as the Chairman of the Waterfront Board to a luncheon. We spent hours with him talking about this. The Waterfront Board did invite us to come before them. The only invitation we received and we went before them with the plan. We have gone out of our way to invite everyone involved in this area to meet with us. I would say we have spent hundreds of hours meeting with people. I think Mr. Merrill would have to say of all the people in Dinner Key we've met with, I personally have met with him more times to talk about his issue than any other single interest in this area. Willy has some specific answers to some points that were raised. Mayor Ferre: O.K., Mr,. Bermello. Mr. Bermello: Mr. Mayor, concerning that very issue of the Waterfront Board, I did appear here one evening at the time that Ron Falkie made a presentation. I inquired as to whether the board wanted at that time to hear the entire presentation. It was a feeling of that board at that time they wanted to discuss Merrill Stevens exclusively. Members of the board, both Mr. Brennan and Peter Clements, have participated on some of the meetings. They've had both collectively and individually with Jack and I had an opportunity to discuss the merits of the plan or their concerns with them. Concerning some of the comments made by Ms. Marilyn Reed, and I'll just address a few of them, because this is not a rebuttalf I just want to clarify some things. The structure at Peacock Park, the structure on the water, all that it is a dock. We did say that design wise, when it's done it should allude to a spring house that used to be in Coconut Grove in the early days, but that it would not have a shelter on top. She brought this out to us at the first meeting and we agreed with her.. Concerning the pier opposite the Virrick Gym, it's a pier basically right above where the ramp is. Primarily because of parking and the conflicts of use and turning movements makes that almost 91 28 October 19s 1984 inoperative and the proposed Seminole Boat ramp will be increased, improved, and should substitute for the servicing of that ramp. Basically, that can be permitted. Concerning the board walk in David Kennedy Park, she is totally correct. It is something that preceded the plan. We basically embraced what we thought was a good idea and also that should not have any problem in being permitted. Concerning the docks that were mentioned opposite the restaurant at the Grove Key Marina leasehold, we discussed with the marina director the possibility of having additional wet slips. It is true, it is difficult to maneuver within that area, but we felt that some additional spaces for short term docking facilities, the same way that they have it over in Key Biscayne could be a possibility in that location. Concerning the Spoil Islands and some gentleman made the comment that the plans somewhere says that we should cut down the trees. That's just totally false. Nowhere in the plans are we recommending that we cut down trees. That's crazy; we're recommending that area become a park land and be cleaned up. We are recommending that some of the mangroves which Marilyn Reed brought up that they be replanted on the Bayside and that there be restoration so that some of those Spoil Islands that have an opportunity to be beach front, be in fact restored along those areas. Concerning public access, we've met Admiral Stevens on two different occasions with their representatives and on five other occasions we have served and went through their property of surveying operations during week days and on week ends. At one point in time, maybe Jimmy has forgotten about it, but there were other people with us, he did say we can work with public access on the waterfront. Now if you're standing right here, maybe your memory has faltered and later you said to me that it didn't represent the policy of your company, but at one point, when you thought about it, you felt yes, if Grove Key Marina puts in more boats into the water than we do and when they're tugging a boat along, it's going less than five miles per hour, the issue is not really safety in terms of people walking along the water's edge. The issue is security for the boat and equipment within the boats. That can be handled like most businesses that have a security problem of any kind. I do agree with Jimmy that they could run a more efficient place. I know he says that if he had a longer lease or if it wasn't expiring, they would have done that a long time ago. Let me say something about the parking garage. The plan recommends one parking garage; the alternate plan recommended by the citizens has two parking garages. The difference between our parking garage, which basically is grade and two levels, and three levels, is that we have one more level than the parking garage suggested in the citizens' plan. The citizens plan basically puts a parking garage in an open area where you have beautiful views of the marine area and those boats that the lady was talking about, and basically closes in an area that's open. Our parking garage will be hugging in front of two buildings that already block views of the bay. Now, J.L. , you made a point, which was a very good one. Have we considered alternative locations in terms of other structures, other properties on the other side of Bayshore. I mentioned that there were three. I believe Marilyn Reed or Joanna mentioned Lou Water Marine, and that is one of the ones that is being under discussion right now. Terremark is another possibility. Our point in the master plan is saying we do have a parking problem. As these options come available, they need to be addressed and looked at. But what we"re saying is please don't fall into the trap of thinking that a problem does not exist, but maybe even other options that we yet have not identified, and those need to be looked at also. Frankly, I want to say that the City Planning al 29 October 19, 1984 Department has made every possible effort of inviting and seeking participation from the public. We have met after hours in meetings and presentations at the P,A.B., over at the Church; we have met individually with members of the various boards, advisory boards that advise you as a Commission, and other civic groups within the area. I realize that in a number of areas there has been an impasse in terms of parking, in terms of the issue of how much land and what is in the highest public benefit in terms of the leasehold of Merrill Stevens. At no point are we saying that there should be a decrease in the amount of wet slips, that there should be a decrease in servicing. We believe that in that particular leasehold the same amount of servicing could be done with a more efficiently run operation, which could basically consume less public land. Mayor Ferre: Does anybody wish to add any other comments? Jim, go ahead. Mr. Jim Merrill: I would just like to.... Mayor Ferre: Briefly now, because we're getting into short strokes now. Mr. Merrill: Yes, I will, and I've written it. With respect to meeting with the planners. We did, I did, in fact, meet with the planners, Willy Bermello, and Jack Luft, and the gentleman from Baltimore, the economist. Was it Clif, was that his name? Mayor Ferre: Jimmy, let's not get involved in whomever. Let's keep to the main basic issue. You have a lot of good points; let's stick to the issue. Mr. Merrill: We did meet with them, but the discussion of cutting the marina in half never came, never came up. With respect to the boardwalk, we did meet, after one of the P.A.B. meetings, I was with Jack and Willy over here at the Charthouse having a drink after the meeting and I said with respect to the boardwalk, you'll hear no complaints from me because they're going to come from OCEA. OCEA will not allow you to put a boardwalk in front of a boat yard, across a boat yard with all of those heisters going back and forth and multi -ton yachts being hauled back and forth. With respect to public access, we're just as open as any other leasehold. You can come in to Merrill Stevens day, anytime during the day when we're open, even at night when we're open. We don't charge a cover charge or anything else. With respect to efficiency, because our lease has expired, we can't afford any capital expenditures into a property that we don't have a lease on; you can understand that. With respect to the parking garages and the aesthetics of a parking garage, I would like to see a catalogue or a drawing or anything of the top ten, well -designed, aesthetic parking garages in America. Thank you. APPLAUSE. Ms. Joanne Holshouser: I just wanted to comment on two of the things that were said. With all due respect to the constant comments from Mr. Bermello and Mr. Luft about the public input, if there has been so much attention paid to the views of the public, why is it that so many people oppose it and so few people are against it? Mayor Ferre: Are for it. Ms. Holshouser: Where are all of these hordes of people to whom they listened? When I saw that plan in March, and as I said, or late February, it was the second time it was given to the public, and I believe the people who were there the 01 30 October 19, 1984 first time. Gentlemen, there were major portions of that plan in St. Stevens shown to us which were exactly the same that are before you now. They were done before they were ever shown to the public, or discussed with the public. The public has discussed them, recussed them, cussed them, carried on, and they have not changed one jot or tittle. Now, with all due respect, Mr. Bermello has changed some things. I'm happy to say he liked some of the things we suggested, but there has been damn little public input into this plan, except what's gone on at these meetings and we've screamed and carried on. The other point is the parking garage. We're suggesting only one, only one surrounding the auditorium. If any of you would like to walk out right now and stand tonight of the corner of Pan American Drive and Bayshore and look towards the water and tell me if you can see the water or the mast of a boat, do so right now. I challenge any of you. What you're going to see is a line of junk trees that should have been taken out because they're trash trees and the rear ends of a bunch of cars. What we're offering you is a well landscaped parking garage that would, if you look at this, give you a baywalk. Talk about baywalks, we'd give you a baywalk twelve feet up that the general public could walk up, look out at the bay and enjoy it. If that is not a baywalk that the public can enjoy, if that's not a view, a view corridor, tell me what you got out there right now. Go look. Mayor Ferret Thank you. Now, Mr. Plummer, I think I'll accept your motion. Mr. Plummer: I move, Mr. Mayor, that the public hearing and the Mayor's comments close. Mayor Ferret the other. Mr. Plummer: that. Mayor Ferret You can move for one. I doubt if you can do I don't know, I might get a unanimous vote on I doubt that too. Mr. Plummer: I make a motion at this time that the public hearing close. Mayor Ferret Is there a second? Mr. Perez: Second. Mayor Ferret Further discussion? Call the roll. THREUPON MOTION DULY MADE AND SECONDED THE COMMISSION UNANIMOUSLY VOTED TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING SECTION OF THE DINNER KEY MASTER PLAN. Mayor Ferret Now we get into questions or comments from the Commission and I'll lead the parade Let me say that the letter by Arvah Moore Parks that was sent to the Planning Board on June 6th is a letter that impresses me. I want to say at the outset of my comments that I do not think that it is right or proper or fair to try to cast dispersions of lack of integrity on the part of anybody that I know of. I think that Jack Luft and Willy Bermello and those that have been working on this have done so with integrity, with the best interest of the community at heart. You may not agree with what they've come up with. They may not agree with what you've come up with. I don't think it is fair to categorize anybody as a spoiler because they've come up with a separate plan. I think it is not only your right and your responsibility, but I think it is commendable that a group of hotel owners and property owners who have something at $1 31 October 19, 1984 stake came up with the money to pay for this plan. I don't see anything wrong with that. I don't think there should be any dishonest shadows cast. I don't see anything wrong with Merrill Stevens vigorously pursuing what some people say is their self interest. So what? That's what this country is all about. They've got a right to protect something that they have a long historical involvement in. So I don't think on either side that we should get into castigating others or trying to cast shadows of integrity on either side. I think everybody is entitled. There are several overriding basic questions. The first one is are we concerned here with what is best for Miami or are we concerned with what is best for Coconut Grove? Are we r concerned with what is best for the boating community? Are we concerned with what is best for the people who walk in the Grove and ride bicycles? Or to put it another way, can there be consensus, can we accommodate one set of needs with another set of needs? Or must there be a conflict? Must we decide is there a difference between what is best for Coconut Grove and what is best for Miami? Does there have 1+ to be a difference? Or can we somehow come to an agreement on a give and take basis with certain provisions that I think are not negotiable. I for one, for example, do not believe that we should have any parking structures anywhere near the water. APPLAUSE . Please, don't. I know everybody is charged up and we're all emotional, but I really would like to just make my statement without applause because you may also boo me when I say something else, and I'd rather not go through that. So, don't applaude so you don't have to boo me. I want to say that I do not believe, I do not personally think, I'm going to try to build consensus here if we can. I've made a list, and I'm sure J.L. and others have their own list of things that we should try to agree upon. First thing is I don't think that we ought to have any parking garages on the water and in my opinion, whatever parking structures if they're needed, we should first of all, we should do it by a process -_ of elimination of what is most desirable and work down from there. The less desirable, which to me is unacceptable is a _ parking structure on the water or near the water. Therefore, that means the following. That we should look at - parking as a total Coconut Grove, Sergio, as a total Coconut Grove approach. In other words, if we can get parking over by Blue Waters or by the theater, the Coconut Grove Playhouse, I think that is a heck of a lot more desirable - - than to have parking in the open area. If we can get parking and come to an agreement with Terremark on the other side of Monty's, that's a lot better than having parking on this side of South Bayshore Drive. So we should approach -- parking in Coconut Grove all the way from the end of Kennedy -� Park through the end of commercial Grove. We should look at - it from that perspective. Once we've looked at parking from a global perspective of the Grove, then I think we should look at the different areas. We do need more parking in my _ opinion near Kennedy Park. We do need more parking in the _- general area of the Exhibition Hall, the Coconut Grove Exhibition Hall. I happen to like Joanne's idea better than - I like the other one, but that's just a personal preference. I think parking garages are ugly and there is no such thing - as a good looking parking garage. We do need parking, and — perhaps if we limit it to one level, I'm not too sure I - = could go for two levels. That might be an improvement. They should certainly be kept in areas, as Joanne Holshouser said, that presently have no obstruction, so that we're not adding the obstruction to the view of the bay, but rather, -- if we have to have any kind of a structure, it should be in front of or behind so there won't be any more curtailment of view corridors. With regards to the McFarland issue, there - I disagree with you, Joanne. There I happen to think that sl 32 October 19, 1984 ittle road that goes down to McFarland should really become art of the park other than a direct entrance and I would ather have again, under the same theory that you have, the arking behind the Coconut Grove Sailing Club, which is lready obstructing the view, I'd rather expand that, than o have all that parking going all the way down into the ay. I think that's ugly and I think I like this idea of his walk where people can...so there is a continuity from eacock Park to Meyers Park to the boat ramp on to what. I hink it's a great idea that Marjorie Stoneman Douglas ark... that may be a better location for it. So I think here ought to be some kind of continuity without children r bicycle riders or joggers having to cross the street. So here I disagree with you on that particular issue. But I o agree with you on the issue of parallel parking on the est of McFarland. I think that parallel parking may be esthetically more acceptable, but I think you're right hat angle parking is really a better thing to have and we ught to leave it the way it is. So that's just a personal reference that I have. On your suggestion of the town quare, I think that's a great idea. I think that is omething that deserves careful study, implementation, and upport. I think that's a perfect location for it. It's ust a logical place for that kind of an approach. It may e too small, I don't know, but perhaps we want it small. I pink that one I agree with you on. I disagree with you on he issue of what do we do with Virrick Gym. Virrick Gym is monstrosity at this point. It's ugly. It's hot. It's Dmething that I... it may be historic, but frankly, that Desn't necessarily mean we have to live with that ugly sore pot. I think we really ought to eventually make a major ttempt to somehow improve the aesthetic looks of that, try D air-condition it and get multiple uses out of it. I have 3 objections to theatre presentations or music being resented there or small dance groups. Let's face it. It's Bver going to be a big place. I mean, you're never going :) have more than experimental theatre there anyway. I :)n't think... at best you can't fit more than 200 to 300 Bats in the place, even if you get the best architect to Bsign it. I think that I happen to agree with the master Lan's idea of trying to upgrade the usage of that. That's rw I see that. On the issue of pedestrian walk-through and Bdestrianization of the park and how does that conflict ith boat yards and how about the big issue of the boat irds and people walking on board walks and what have you. do agree that we should maintain what is now Merrill .evens and in the future what is Grove Key Marina as boat 3rds. I have no... I believe that strongly. I believe iat if we remove the boat yards from there, indeed you will Zange the character of the Grove. I think you're going to range a lot of things. Let's define what a full service trina is. Let me tell you what I'm against. I'm against some wealthy northerner, and I have nothing against wealthy northerners, but I'm against a wealthy northerner storing his boat here for ten months out of the year without using it and then coming here between Thanksgiving and Christmas and taking his boat out for a ride. That's fine. I got no problems... I mean that person has that right, but in my opinion, not there. Because that should be a place that should be maintained for Miamians and residents here and people who will use that facility as much as possible. If you're telling me of the 30,000 boat owners in South Florida or Dade County, that nobody wants to store his boat here, then we ought to make it a storage place for northerners to store their boats, then if you can tell me that nobody in Miami wants that space, then I have no objections as to waiving that, but I think we ought to have that as a used marina where people will use it rather than a boat storage place. Secondly, I mean, long term boat storage place, where a boat is kept dead for ten months out of the year or 51 33 October 19, 1984 five or six months without usage. With regards to the marina itself, I don't think this is the location, I don't think it's presently used that way, but if it is, it shouldn't be in my opinion, where a boat totally dismantled and where heavy engine repairs are done on site, where a diesel is repaired there and that boat is kept out of the water for two or three months. As I understand it, in modern marina repair, you don't do that anyway. Because you take that motor out and put it on a truck and send it to General Motors or to Detroit Diesel or the Cummings and they repair it or send you a new motor and you put it in. But I just don't think that the heavy duty... I don't see anything wrong with somebody scraping barnacles off or doing a little } paint job, but I do think this is not a location for a major reconstruction of a yacht or an overhaul of that magnitude. Other than that, I do think this is the place where maintenance ought to be done, where full service marina is available other than the long, heavy-duty, long haul, big ticket kind of stuff. That, I think, should be on the river. You have a facility on the river where you're doing that and so do others. With regard to the hangers, I don't think there's any law that says that all of the hangers have to be kept. I don't have any problems with the plan that Willy, you came up with where one of those small hangers that is not in too much use being made open space. I have absolutely no problems with that. But that is something ,.; that I think is something that we'll deal with when we put this thing out for bids. With regards to the openness of the park, in my opinion, we have precious, little, green, waterfront space and every bit of waterfront space that we can keep open and green is something that we're that much ahead of. I don't think that we should take any green space and cover it with either cement or concrete. I don't think F< that we should be playing around with this precious heritage _ that we have. On the other hand, I do think that we have an obligation to improve what we have and I have no objections - of turning asphalt and concrete back into green space. So - let's not lock ourselves into saying that since Merrill --= Stevens was here from year one, and since Merrill Stevens thought of this and convinced the City to buy this property = from Pan American World Airways, that therefore we're stuck with that configuration and that exact same thing for ever and a day. I reject that. I think there may be some fine tuning we need to get into. With regards to Marilyn's State law problems, there I obviously, if it is a violation of -- __ what the state marine conservation or the corps of -- engineer's regulations if we don't have permits, obviously - we can't put a pier out if we don't have a permit. On the -- other hand, if there is a possibility of getting a finger pier out in Peacock Park, where people can sit there in the evenings or in the afternoon and enjoy it, I don't see _- anything wrong with trying to do that. That doesn't do -- anybody any harm, if we can get the permits for it obviously. I think I've pretty well covered the highlights, as I see them, of the issue. That is parking, open space, full service marina, the question of Spencer, you brought -- s out the question of an RFP versus a specific... I think that when we go out to bid, we should go out to bid for the use of that space as a marina. Obviously Merrill Stevens is going to have to compete with other people who are going to want to compete on that basis. That is something that we -_ ought to move along on. One last thing, you asked Jimmy, = where are the people that are for this? You know, we cannot - make this... I don't vote and I don't think anybody else does here on this Commission, even though a lot of times people accuse us of that. We don't vote on things based on - how many people applaude or boo or show up. The fact that - people are or aren't here, your group is a very vociferous - group that has very strong feelings. You've organized it. You don't have to tell me, I know the way you made that al 34 October 19, 1904 speech that that was a carefully thought out, carefully written speech that you practiced on it because I got to tell you, you were better than Ronald Reagan and Mondale put together# i tell you, you must be, if you're not thinking of it, maybe you might want to run for public office. That was pretty good. You only looked down about four or five times to catch those notes, so you had that thing memorized. That tells me that you prepared a great deal and well you should because this is important to you and to your family and to your company. I think that's fine. The other people that Willy and Jack may have talked to may not have as strong feeling about this as you and your friends and the people that have organized on this. But that doesn't mean that others don't have opinions too. You happen to be more vociferous. I need to tell you that when we vote on this, whatever the will of this Commission is going to be, it's going to be based on what we think is best for the community and what is best not only for Coconut Grove, but for the City of Miami. Now I'll open it up for anybody else who wants to make a comment. 3. DEVELOP R.F.P.'S FOR SITE KNOWN AS MERRILL STEVENS PROPERTY FOR A MARINA AND A FULL SERVICE BOAT YARD. Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, the only comment that I have is in relation to the full service marina. I disagree with Spencer Meredith. I think we should go for an RFP. I base it on the comments that I don't necessarily feel that what is there presently is best for this community and Jim himself has said that if he were to be the recipient of the bidding procedure, that he is ready to put capital improvements into that area. I think that's the kind of thing that we want to try to encourage, is a little bit of imagination with the full understanding that it is a full service marina, but we ask for people to come up with what is best for that general location. I think .if you say with a bidding procedure, we want just what we have there, give us a little bit more money and we'll give you X number of years. I don't think that benefits the Grove. I think we can have some imaginative thinking. I think we can have some people who can encourage different plans. I see nothing wrong with encouraging different plans, maybe different landscaping, different parking. I think that would be healthy. So I don't agree with the fact that we just want what's there duplicated for the X number of dollars. I think that we can be imaginative. I think Jimmy will be imaginative, because he has said on numerous occasions that he would like to fix it up, make it better, make it something we're all proud of. That's the kind of RFP that we should go with. Mayor Ferre: Any other comments? If not, I'm open for motions. Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I really don't know what kind of motions you want at this particular time. I think the consensus of everyone here and of course the vote of the Commission will indicate that we instruct the Manager number one, to immediately start developing an RFP or a proposal for the property commonly known as the Merrill Stevens property, to go out as quickly as possible, to develop a proposal and I would so move at this time. sl 35 October ig, 1984 ALIN - - -- Mayor ferret Is there a second to that? In other words, rather than dealing with the plan, your motion speaks just to the issue of the Merrill Stevens property to go out for bid? Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, in following your lead, I think we take those things that are really plus items, and we'll work our way down. Mayor Ferre: O.K., I agree with that. Is there a second to that motion? Mr. Plummer: Well, I misread. Mayor Ferre: Your motion then, let me understand it properly, your motion was to instruct the Manager to immediately go out for a bid.... - Mr. Plummer: No, sir, to develop an RFP. Mayor Ferre: I'm sorry, to develop an RFP, to come back to the Commission for a final vote on the RFP so that this property can be -so that what is called the Merrill Stevens property can be bid. Mr. Plummer: That is the usual procedure, yes. Mayor Ferre: Does anybody want to second that motion? Mr. Carollo: Which means that the Commission can modify anything t:hAt the administration might put it to the RFP. Mr. Plummer: Yes, sir. Mr. Perez: I would like to emphasize that these people have the opportunity to meet with through the City administration before coming back to the City Commission. Mr. Dawkins: The only thing I have to say is every time we put out an RFP, everything I complain about ends up an RFP. Mayor Ferre: Well, there is a motion without a second at the present time. Mr. Perez: I second. Mayor Ferre: O.K., I was going to say you won't have to worry about it, but now you do have to worry about it. It's been moved and seconded. Is there further discussion? Call the roll. The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved its adoption: MOTION NO. 84-1181 A MOTION INSTRUCTING THE CITY MANAGER TO IMMEDIATELY START DEVELOPING A REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS (R.F.P.S) FOR DEVELOPMENT OF A MARINA, FULL SERVICE BOAT YARD AND SUPPORTIVE INNOVATIVE USES AT THE SITE COMMONLY KNOWN AS THE MERRILL STEVENS PROPERTYi SAID REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS TO GO OUT AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLEf FURTHER REQUESTING THE CITY MANAGER TO BRING THIS MATTER HACK TO THE CITY COMMISSION FOR A FINAL VOTE ON THE R.F.P.'S SO THAT SAID PIECE OF PROPERTY MAY BE BID. si 36 October 19, 1904 Upon being seconded by Commissioner Perez, the motion was passed and adopted by the following vote - AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Vice --Mayor Demetrio Perez, Jr. Mayor Maurice A. Ferre 3'^ NOES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins` ABSENTs None. -------- ------rrr-----------.r-----.ter----------------------- 4. EXPRESS POLICY THAT NO PARKING STRUCTURES BE BUILT IN THE DINNER KEY AREA BETWEEN S. BAYSHORE DRIVE AND THE WATERFRONT EAST OF PAN AMERICAN DRIVE. -------------------------------------------------------- Mayor Ferre: What is the next? Mr. Plummer: I would make a motion at this time, Mr. Mayor, that this Commission go on record as policy that no parking structure be placed between Bayshore Drive and the water from Kennedy Park to Peacock Park. Mr. Dawkins: Second. Mr. Perez% Second. Mayor Ferre: Now let me understand. You are saying that no parking structure be placed on the water, you say? Mr. Plummer: On Bayshore Drive to the water. I realize that would be in conflict with Joanne's plan, both plans. Mayor Ferre: I tell you, J.L., there is a second. Who seconded that? Miller did. I got to tell you that I can't vote for that, because I think Joanne's come up with a reasonable plan. I think what you're doing is precluding Joanne's plan and I don't mind your saying, and I would vote for a motion that would not have any parking structure anywhere from Bayshore Drive to a point halfway ... I mean from Bayshore Drive to where the Exhibition Hall begins and not on the waterfront. Mr. Plummer: Mayor, if I can't get a whole cake, I will take a half a cake, or 80%. I will accept that with the proviso that at any time in the future that were to be a plan, that it would have to be voted on by this Commission. Mayor Ferre: I accept that. Is that acceptable to you You have lost your secondl Mr. Plummer: Oh, then I will go back to my original motion! Mayor Ferre: No, wait a minute, there may be a second somewhere else. I'll be happy to ... I'll tell you what, I will second it because I think that this "all or nothing" to not a proper way to go. I think we cannot exclude or preclude the possibility of additional parking which is needed in the area if you are going to improve this marina. Mr. Dawkins: Mayor, I don't think it is a matter of "all or nothing" at all, but there are many parking areas out here where you do not'have to put a structure. There are parking lots, so when you start to provide parking, we can provide parking without parking structures. So I am saying I an for Id 37 october 9r 1904 i :F parking. We need the parking, but I am against putting up structures that will obstruct the view of the Bay. Mr. Plummert Let me clarify my motion. Mayor Ferre: J. L., why don't you also put in your motion, if I may add, that no structures would substantially increase the view corridor of the bay that exists now. Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, let me go back to Miller, first. Let me say to you, that in no way, is this an approval of a parking structure. It is, if in fact, a viable plan were to be developed, we would address that individually at a later time. The basis of my motion is, that in fact, we would not, tonight, as a matter of policy - we would object to anything from Bayshore Drive to the water, but keep in mind that tomorrow, or next year, this Commission could change that policy by a majority vote, so you could change it at any time at a later date. I am not saying, or inferring that they will, but I think at this particular point, 80% of what I am looking for is better than nothing. I think we still would have to address the other issue as an item onto itself, and that is why I am agreeable to the Mayor's amendment. Mayor Ferre: Call the question. Mr. Perez: We have a motion and a second. Do we have any questions? If not, call the roll. The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved its adoption: MOTION NO. 85-1182 A MOTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION EXPRESSING ITS POLICY THAT NO PARKING STRUCTURES BE BUILT IN THE DINNER KEY AREA FROM KENNEDY PARK TO PEACOCK PARK, EITHER: (A) BETWEEN SOUTH BAYSHORE DRIVE AND THE COCONUT GROVE EXHIBITION CENTER, OR (B) DIRECTLY ON THE WATERFRONT EAST OF PAN AMERICAN DRIVE. Upon being seconded by Mayor Ferre, the motion was passed and adopted by the following vote - AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Vice -Mayor Demetrio Perez, Jr. Mayor Maurice A. Ferre NOES: None. ABSENT: None. 5. INSTRUCT CITY MRSAGER TO COMB BACK WITH PROPOSED AM N r MIS TO THE DINNER KEY HASIRR PLAIN To INCLUDE GROVE SQUARE PUBLIC PLASH IN PEACOCK PARK. Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I make a motion at this time that the Administration be instructed through the Parks 4 Recreation and Planning Department to come back to this Commission as soon as possible with a Grove Square in Peacock Park. I am not designating that particular area of the shuffleboards. I am giving them latitude .,. Id 38 October 191 1964 Mayor Ferret All right, that is better. That is better. Mr. Plummert ... to come back with a plan or Maybe more than one plan. Mayor Ferret That is better. Mr. Plummers And I offer that in the form of a motion. Mayor Ferre: I think that is an improvement. Is there a second? Mr. Carollo: Second. Mayor Ferre: Further discussion? All right, call the roll on that. The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved its adoption: MOTION NO. 85-1183 A MOTION INSTRUCTING THE ADMINISTRATION THROUGH THE PARKS AND RECREATION - DEPARTMENT AND THROUGH THE PLANNING _ DEPARTMENT, TO COME BACK TO THE CITY COMMISSION, AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, WITH A PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO THE DINNER KEY MASTER PLAN WHICH WOULD INCLUDE A GROVE SQUARE PUBLIC PLAZA IN PEACOCK PARK; FURTHER STIPULATING THAT THE ADMINISTRATION MAY COME BACK WITH ONE OR MORE THAN ONE PROPOSED PLANS. Upon being seconded by Commissioner Carollo, the motion was passed and adopted by the following vote - AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Vice -Mayor Demetrio Perez Mayor Maurice A. Ferre NOBS: None. ABSENT: None. S.1 INSTRUCT PLANNING DEPARTMENT TO FURTMR PLAT POSSIBLE 140DIFICATION OF !lCFARLA9D ROAD. N-NrNINNNI�.-.�N�1.lNlN!!lI�I�NI�.I.YIN-�-NN!!MN!!!r Mayor Ferre: Now, about McFarland? How are we going to treat McFarland? Mr. Plummer: You are speaking of the little access road? I don't know that I will be popular on that oriel I have to agree this should be closed off. Mayor Ferre: I do tool Mr. Plummer: I think it should be a part of the park. I think the only thing that concerns me than no one spoke to is if you do that, how will you have access into the Sailing Club? Mr. Plummer* Excuse me? (INAUDIBLE BACKGROUND COMMENTS) Mr. Plummer: No, you can hav6 access some other way. Mayor Ferret No, you can have access to the Sailing Club. Mr. Plummer No, Joanne, I don't agree that we need a traffic study. You have there, possibly 15 to 18 parking spaces? That was my greatest concern. Ms. Holshouser: Well, McFarland you can't get in and out ... (INAUDIBLE, OFF MICROPHONE) Mayor Ferre: Look, this is in principle, because they have to come back with the specific, so if you are going to make a motion, make it in principle, J. L. Mr. Plummers Well, everything we are doing is in principle, as far as I am concerned. Mayor Ferret Make your motion. Mr. Plummer: My motion would be that we close off that portion from Bayshore Drive, which is commonly known as the foot of McFarland. Mayor Ferret Is there a second? I will second it. Mr. Perez% Do we have any other comments? If not, call the roll. MOTION FAILED. Motion to close off portion of McFarland a ed by the following vote: AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer Mayor Maurice A. Ferre NOES: Commissioner Joe Carollo Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins Vice -Mayor Demetrio Perez, Jr. ABSENT: None Mr. Plummer: Then I think a like motion would be in order that a policy - the decision of this Commission that it = remain open. Mr. Carollo: So moved. Mayor Ferre: All right, there is a motion and a second that McFarland be ... Mr. Plummer: Remain open as it is. Mayor Ferre: ... remain open as it is. (INAUDIBLE BACKGROUND COMMENTS) Mayor Ferre: What is the alternate? Ms. Holshouser: (INAUDIBLE) Mayor Ferre* Is that acceptable? Mr. Plummer: You can always come back later with that. (INAUDIBLE BACKGROUND COMMENTS) Mr. Luft: Yes, we have some alternates. We will work them, a 14 40 October 198 Mayor Ferret Well, how do we leave this, as open, or what? Mr. Plummers Remain open. Mr. Luft: I think the principle is that the Sailing Club _ wants their entrance off of that, and that there is some parking there - there are opportunities to provide access to the park and plazas at the waterfront and we can certainly _ do better than the way it is today. Mayor Ferret You will come back with that. Do we need a vote on this? Do you want a motion? Mr. Carollos I will make a motion to that. Mr. Luft: Just like the Plaza in Peacock Park. Mayor Ferret That we keep on working on this? i Mr. Carollo: Sure. Mayor Ferret Is there a second? Mr. Plummer: Second. Mr. Dawkins: What happened to that other motion that was made and seconded? Mr. Plummer: Which one? Mr. Dawkins: The one that you made to leave the street open and Joe seconded it. Mr. Plummer: Oh. I don't think I am ... Mr. Carollo: It just got scrapped. Mr. Plummer: I don't think I can make that motion. I was on the losing side. Mayor Ferret So ... Mr. Dawkins: So this is a substitute motion. Mayor Ferre: There is a substitute motion that says that there be some further planning and discussion to hopefully find a middle answer, or consensus somewhere. Call the roll on that. The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Carollo, who moved its adoption: MOTION NO. 85-1184 A MOTION DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO INSTRUCT THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT TO CONTINUE TO DO FURTHER PLANNING IN CONNECTION WITH THE POSSIBLE MODIFICATION OF MCFARLAND ROAD, IN THE HOPES OF BEING ABLE TO FIND SOME MIDDLE GROUND CONSENSUS AS TO ITS PROPOSED FUTURE USE. Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the motion was passed and adopted by the following vote- AYES: Commissioner Demetrio Peres, Jr. Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins Commissioner J, L, Plummer, Jr. :a Id 41 OotOber 19s 1984 3 r _� 0 Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo Mayor Maurice A. Ferre NOES: None. ABSENT: None. z rrr--rr-r---------------rrrr-rrr----r-r------r-rrrr.r.��.rr�.��i z. 6. ACCEPT ADMINISTRATION RECOMMENDATION FOR FULLY DEDICATED RIGHT OF WAY FROM S. BAYSHORE DRIVE ACROSS FRONTAGE OF PROPERTIES - CORAL REEF YACHT CLUB, BISCAYNE* ETC. FOR BETTER BIKE PATH. ------------------------------------------------------------- Mayor Ferret Well, what other issues, Jack, do we have outstanding? Mr. Luft: Well, we would like to see a motion urging that a setback and an improved walkway in the front of the Coral Reef Biscayne Yacht Club be provided to make a connection from Kennedy Park to the rest of Dinner Key. It is a very dangerous, unimproved area right now, with a lot of accidents there and we would like to get that extra setback another 15 feet and then improve and landscape that. Mayor Ferret That is important. Does anybody have any disagreements with that? That wasn't addressed. That is a very important issue. Mr. Carollo: So move that motion. Mayor Ferret All right, is there a second? (INAUDIBLE BACKGROUND COMMENTS) Mayor Ferret Yes. Is there a second? Mr. Perez: Second. Mayor Ferret All right, further discussion? Call the roll on that. The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Carollo, who moved its adoption: MOTION NO. 85-1185 A MOTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION ACCEPTING THE ADMINISTRATION'S RECOMMENDATION THAT THERE BE A FULLY DEDICATED SETBACK FROM SOUTH BAYSHORE DRIVE ZONED RIGHT-OF-WAY AND ACROSS THE FRONTAGE OF THE PROPERTIES OTHERWISE KNOWN AS THE CORAL REEF YACHT CLUB AND BISCAYNE BAY YACHT CLUB, FOR PURPOSES OF CONSTRUCTING AN IMPROVED PEDESTRIAN/BIKE PATH FROM KENNEDY PARK TO THE REST OF DINNER KEY. Upon being seconded by Commissioner Perez, the motion was passed and adopted by the following vote AYES$ Commissioner Joe Carollo Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Vice -Mayor Demetrio Perez, Jr. Mayor Maurice A. Ferro r>t ------- NOES: None. ABSENTS None. rrrr----------:i----rrr�.ri.rr-r�.��r.r�r�r 7. ACCEPT ADMINISTRATION RECOMMENDATION FOR ESTABLISHMENT OF AN ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS AND PARKING MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE, SET ASIDE SPACES, PROVISIONS FOR SPECIAL EVENTS, ETC. ---------------------- ----------------------------------i--.i Mayor Ferret All right, Jack, what else? Mr. Luft: We would like to see the Administration have a parking management committee, to deal with the overlap that exists between the Marina, the Exhibition Center, the leasehold - there are a lot of SHARED use of parking down there, and there is a need to get an administrative coordination of this, so that we can understand where set aside spaces are, if there are parking fees to be charged, how we organize that in the special events. It is not a parking plan, but it is a process that we would like to set in motion. Mayor Ferret All right, is there a motion to that effect? This is the planning process. Mr. Plummer: So moved. Mr. Perez: Further discussion? Call the roll. The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved its adoption: MOTION NO. 85-1186 A MOTION ACCEPTING THE ADMINISTRATION'S RECOMMENDATION FOR THE ESTABLISHMENT OF AN ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS TO INCLUDE A PARKING MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE TO ORGANIZE SHARED AND OVERLAP -PARKING AT DINNER KEY; ALSO SO WE MAY UNDERSTAND WHERE SET -ASIDE SPACES ARE, HOW WE MAY ORGANIZE SUCH WITH SPECIAL EVENTS; ETC. Upon being seconded by Commissioner Perez, the motion was passed and adopted by the following vote - AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Vice -Mayor Demetrio Perez, Jr. Mayor Maurice A. Ferre NOES: None. ABSENT: None. S. AUTHORISE CITY HANWER TO STUDY FSRSISMITY TO Ain= SOLLIXG B=8E8 FOR DBVXLOP=ff OF PRIVATE AND PUBLIC PARKING ON FUTURE BUILDINGS, LTC. Mayor Ferret Are there any other issues? 14 43 Mr. Plummers Mr. Mayor, I would like to ask that a study be done by the Planning Department at this time for the creation of possible bonuses for any future buildings in which they will allow private and public parking, or even existing buildings for bonuses in which they will allow private and public parking. I think there was a very good point, if you are going up with an 18 story building, if in fact we could encourage the developers to add two more floors and those two floors would be parking. I think it is a good mix and I think it would be only through a bonus system that you would encourage such. Mayor Ferret Is there a second? Mr. Perez: Second, Mayor Ferret Further discussion? Call the roll. The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved its adoption: MOTION NO. 85-1187 A MOTION AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE CITY ADMINISTRATION TO CONDUCT A STUDY THROUGH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT ON THE FEASIBILITY OF A SYSTEM WHICH WOULD AWARD ZONING BONUSES FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF PRIVATE AND PUBLIC PARKING ON ANY FUTURE BUILDINGS OR EVEN IN EXISTING BUILDINGS WHICH WOULD ALLOW SUCH COMBINED USE TO ACCOMMODATE EXCESS PARKING IN THE DINNER KEY AREA. Upon being seconded by Commissioner Perez, the motion was passed and adopted by the following vote - AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Vice -Mayor Demetrio Perez, Jr. Mayor Maurice A. Ferre NOES: None. ABSENT: None. 9. APPROVE IN PRINCIPLE WITH AFOREMENTIONED AMEBI)MEliTS, THE DINNER KEY SULMER PLhN, DIRWrING TO BE BROUGHT BACK FOR FINAL. CONSIDERATION. N�.��NN�N�MNN�N ANAN� Mayor Ferret Now, with all of these modifications, I think we do need a resolution on the plan. Go ahead. Mr. Luft: The question of the open space adjacent to Pan American Drive, next to Bayshore Drive, in front of the Exhibition Hall Center, we are suggesting in the plan that there be a policy established that that be protected and preserved as green landscaped open space, and not as parking lots. Mayor Ferret Point to me on the map what you are talking about. Mr. Plummer* Those two areas, there. Mayor Ferret Well, that is exactly what we are in agreement on. This has to be left as green open space. Well, I will tell you, is that in here? Mr. Lufts It is in the Master Plan, Mayor Ferret Well, I think the thing to do now, Joanne having corrected all those things, it seems to me now, that we can pass on the acceptance as modified with the Master Plan. Ms. Holshousers Well, I just would appreciate it if the City Attorney could comment on the fact that you are passing the document as it is written, are you not? Mayor Ferret As amended. As amended. Ms. Holshousers Well, then there are a couple of things that need to be brought up. The map shows the gym staying where it is. Mr. Luft has discussed it and it shows the gym staying where it is. You need a page in the document that shows it where it is, because the original Master Plan included tearing out that building and putting in another building. We were never opposed sir, to the mixed use for the boxing gym. We were opposed to replacing it, so if we could straighten up that language, Jack - if that could be straightened. Mr. Lufts If there is a misunderstanding in the plan, we will straighten that out, but all I can say is we never proposed tearing the Virrick Gym. Ms. Holshousers Well, the proposal for the amphitheatre is what I am talking about - if that could be removed. The other thing is if we could still work together on Peacock Park on the various issues in there, because we definitely do not want to see an adjacent person come in on this now. Mayor Ferret That has already been covered. Mr. Plummert It would take a public hearing. Ms. Holshousers It hasn't all been covered, though. I appeal to the City Attorney. You have got before you a document that spells out certain things in Peacock Park. Mayor Ferret Well, Joanne, we may not need to pass the document. Is there a need to pass the document? Mr. Gary: Mr. Mayor. Mayor Ferre: Yes, sir. Mr. Gary: May I suggest that because you made decisions regarding policy that you adopt the plan with those modifications in principle and have us come back with those changes in the document. Mayor Ferret That is what I was saying. Mr. Garys Yes, sir. Ms. Holshousers Year thank you, that is what we want. Mayor Ferrel That is what I was saying. Mr. no problem with that. Does somebody want motion? ld 45 41 Manager. I have to slake such a Ma Mr. Plummers So moved. Mayor Ferret is there a second? Mr. Perezt Second. Mayor Ferret Further discussion? Call the roll. The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved its adoptions MOTION NO. 85-1188 A MOTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION APPROVING IN PRINCIPLE, THE DINNER KEY MASTER PLAN WITH THE AFOREMENTIONED AMENDMENTS; FURTHER DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO BRING BACK BEFORE THE CITY COMMISSION SUCH MASTER PLAN, AS AMENDED, FOR FINAL CONSIDERATION AND CONFIRMATION BY THE COMMISSION. Upon being seconded by Commissioner Perez, the motion was passed and adopted by the following vote - AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Vice -Mayor Demetrio Perez, Jr. Mayor Maurice A. Ferre NOES: None. ABSENTS None. Mayor Ferret Ladies and Gentlemen, this meeting is now ended and I thank you very much for your cooperation. 10. RELAX RESTRICTIONS ON FIREWORKS FOR THE JACKS'ON'S CONCERTS. Mayor Ferret We do have some pocket items at this time. Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I would ask that to make us in full - accord with the Michael Jackson's Concert, that we waive the - fireworks ..9 a resolution to relax the restrictions placed on the fireworks display by Section 19- ... Mr. Carollo: Second. Mr. Plummer: I've got to read it. ... (NOTE: AT THIS POINT, Commissioner Plummer reads Resolution 84-1189 into the public record - as shown hereinbelow) I so move. - Mayor Ferret Moved and seconded. Further discussion. Call the roll. � Id 44 QOtobor 19 # CR 1 r 10 F The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner ummer, who moved its adoptions RESOLUTION NO. 85-1189 A RESOLUTION TO RELAX THE RESTRICTIONS PLACED ON PYROTECNIC DISPLAYS BY SECTION 19-184(C)3 OF THE CODE OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA FOR DISPLAYS DURING THE JACKSONS TOUR CONCERTS AT THE ORANGE BOWL STADIUM TO COMMENCE NOT LATER THAN 10:30 P.M. ON NOVEMBER 2 AND 3, 1984 NOR LATER THAN 10:30 P.M. ON NOVEMBER 4, 1984 IF SAID DATE IS USED AS A RAINDATE. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Commissioner Carollo, the solution was passed and adopted by the following vote - ES: Commissioner Joe Carollo Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Vice -Mayor Demetrio Perez, Jr. Mayor Maurice A. Ferre ES: None. SENT: None. . AUTHORIZE AMENDMENT TO AGRSSMSNT WITH CLIPPER PIONEERS FOR GROUPS HISTORIC TIES WITH CITY AND ALLOCATING $4,000. . Dawkins: Mr. Mayor, I have one. We agreed to give ,500 to the Pan American pilots in order to help them ing their convention here and we didn't do it so I would ke to pass a resolution ... (NOTE: AT THIS POINT, uommissoner Dawkins reads into the public record Resolution 84-1190, shown hereinbelow) Mayor Ferro: $4,500? Mr. Dawkins: Mr. Gary, do you approve this? Mr. Gary: What I understand here, Mr. Mayor, is, just as with I.P.M.A. asking the Afrikan Embassy we normally, to get this conventions, we normally, when they conventions come in town, we normally host a reception to attract these conventions in. I think that is what Commissioner Dawkins is recommending. Mr. Plummer: Commissioner Dawkins, may I plead with you to change your wording to promotion? Mr. Gary: Yes, promotions. Mr. Dawkins: Mr. Plummer: Mayor Ferret 14 Okay. Promotion and reception? Promotional activities during their stay. Is there a second? 47 Octotog 19, 1984 Mr. Plummert Yes, I second. Mayor Ferre: Further discussion? Call the roll. The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Dawkins, who moved its adoption: :r RESOLUTION NO. 85-1190 R=== A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTIVE AN AGREEMENT IN A FORM SUBJECT TO THE APPROVAL OF THE CITY ATTORNEY, WITH THE CLIPPER PIONEERS INC., FOR PROMOTIONAL ACTIVITIES WITH THE PURPOSE OF ACKNOWLEDGING AND PROMOTING THIS GROUP'S HISTORIC TIES WITH THE CITY OF MIAMI WITH FUNDS THEREFOR ALLOCATED IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $4,500 FROM THE CITY'S SPECIAL PROGRAMS AND ACCOUNTS CONTINGENT FUND. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote - AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Vice -Mayor Demetrio Perez, Jr. Mayor Maurice A. Ferre NOES: None. ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo 12. GRR T BEQUEST FOR USE OF CITY COMMISSION C MBEBS FROM THE DIRECTOR OF THE PUBLIC INTEREST PROGRAM NOV. 29, 1984. Mayor Ferre: Lucia, this is a request by the Director of the Public Interest Program with services of the Florida Bar. They want to use the Commission Hall on Thursday, November 29, 1984, at 10:00 A.M., and we need a resolution "to give them the hall. Is there a motion? Mr. Plummer: You mean in these chambers? Mayor Ferre: In these chambers. Mr. Plummer: So moved. Mr. Gary: You don't need a resolution. Mrs. Dougherty: You just need to approve it. Mr. Gary: Just approve it, you don't need a resolution. Mayor Ferret It has been moved and seconded, call the roll• Id 48 October 19, The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer who moved its adoptions MOTION NO. 85-1191 A MOTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION PURSUANT TO A REQUEST FROM THE DIRECTOR OF THE ?1 PUBLIC INTEREST PROGRAM AND SERVICES OF THE FLORIDA BAR FOR USE OF THE CITY COMMISSION CHAMBERS ON THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 29, 1984, AT 10:00 A.M. O'CLOCK. Upon being seconded by Commissioner Perez, the motion was passed and adopted by the following vote - AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Vice -Mayor Demetrio Perez, Jr. Mayor Maurice A. Ferre NOES: None. ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS TO COME BEFORE THE CITY COMMISSION, THE MEETING WAS ADJOURNED AT 7:58 P.I. Maurice A. Ferre M A Y O R ATTEST: Ralph G. Ongie CITY CLERK ASSISTANT CITY CLERK i i m id 49 rl DOCUMENT I MlETINGI HAT! OCTOBER 19, 1984 ry - . . Lo COMMISSION RETRIEVAL DOCUM JT IDENTIFICATION ACTION KM1 NO RELAX RESTRICTIONS PLACED ON PYROTECHNIC DIS- ECTION 1DURING THE JACKSONSE TOURS CONCERTS. OF CITY OFMIAMI) ORANGE BOWL STADIUM, ON NOV. 2 AND 3, 1984 AUTHORIZE CITY MANAGERfCITY ATTORNEY EXECUTE AN AGREEMENT WITH THE CLIPPER PIONEERS INC. TO PROMOTE THIS GROUP'S HISTORIC TIES WITH THE CITY OF MIAMI ( NOT TO EXCEED $4,500) FROM C. S. P. A. C. F. 84-1189 84-1190