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COMMISSION
MINUTES
OF MEETING HELD ON May 9, 1985
(REGULAR)
O BY THE OFFICE OF THE CITY CLERK
PREPARE CITY HALL
RALPI-1 G.. ONGIE
CITY CLERK
INDEX
MINUTES OF REGULAR MEETING
CITY COMMISSION OF MIAMtf FLORIDA
MAY 99 1985
ITEM SUBJECT LEGISLATION PAGE
NO. NO.
1 PLAWAS, PRESENTATIONS ANU SPECIAL DISCUSSION 1-2
ITEMS.
2 INSTRUCT CITY MANAGER TO MEET WITH M-85-461 2-3
CHIEF OF POLICE REGARDING NEEDS AND
FUNDING REQUIREMENTS OF P.S.A.
POSITIONS.
3 APPROVE FINDINGS OF SURVEY OF POTEN- R-85-462 4-9
TIAL CO -TENANTS OF PROPOSED MIAMI
INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS CENTER.
5 MIAMI-DADE TRADE AND TOURISM COMMIS- DISCUSSION 9-16
SION - AUTHORIZE CONTINUED FUNDING
UNTIL MAY 23RD, ETC.
6 APPROVE IN PRINCIPLE REQUEST OF M-85-464 16-19
GREATER MIAMI OPERA FOR FUNDING
REQUEST OF $25,000.00 AS CONTRIBU-
TION TOWARDS THEIR OPERATING COSTS.
7 APPROVE REQUEST OF DOMINICAN CULTURE M-85-465 19-22
AND HERITAGE GROUP JOSE MARTI PARK
CELEBRATION RESTAURACION DE LA
REPUBLICA DOMINICANA.
8 FILE LAWSUIT AGAINST SANTA MONICA, R-85-466 22-27
CALIFORNIA, POLICE CHIEF, ETC.
REGARDING SENDING OF CRIMINAL TO
MIAMI, REQUESTING FEDERAL LEGISLA-
TION, INJUNCTION ACTION, ETC.
9 DISCUSSION ITEM: PERSONAL APPEARANCE DISCUSSION 27-30
OF ANNE MARIE ADKER REGARDING FIRST
SOURCE AGREEMENT OF MINORITY PRO-
CUREMENT ORDINANCE.
10 DISCUSSION: APARTHEID POLICIES OF DISCUSSION 30-38
SOUTH AFRICA H.T. SMITH REGARDING
MISS UNIVERSE ETC.
11 ALLOCATE 1/3 OF $10,000. IN CONNEC- M-85-467 38-40
TION WITH LOWENBRAU EVENT COLLECTION M-85-468
OF MOVIES FEATURING BLACK ARTISTS
SUBJECT TO IDENTICAL FUNDING FORM
SCHOOL BOARD AND METRO.
12 ALLOCATE ADDITIONAL $6,000. TO M-85-469 41
UPGROVE THEATRE GOUP MAKING A TOTAL
ALLOCATION OF $10,000.
13 EXPRESS FULL SUPPORT OF PRESIDENT R-85-470 41-42
REAGAN IN REGARD TO THE TRADE EMBAR-
GO RECENTLY IMPOSED AGAINT NICARA-
GUA.
14 PROCLAIM WEEK OF JUNE 30 TO JULY 4 R-85=471 42-44
AS FAITH WEEK IN THE CITY OF MIAMI-
WAIVE FEE FOR MARINE STADIUM.
15 GRANT REQUEST OF DOWNTOWN MERCHANTS M-85-472 44
ASSOCIATION FOR DOWNTOWN SIDEWALK
SALE MAY 119 FROM 9 TO 6 PM.
16 DISCUSSION: SCHEDULE FUNDING OF DISCUSSION 45
D.D.A FOR NEXT MEETING MANAGER TO
FURNISH COPY TO PROMOTERS OF FESTI-
VALS REGARDING NEW CITY POLICY OF
FUNDING.
17 MAYOR READS LETTER CONCERNING PLIGHT DISCUSSION 45
OF COMMERCIAL FISHERMEN PRESENTLY
LOCATED IN AREA OF BAYSIDE CONSTRUC-
TION.
18 ALLOCATE $509000 TO THEODORE R-85-473 45-46
ROOSEVELT GIBSON MEMORIAL FUND UNITY
AND COMMUNICATIONS CENTER.
19 APPROVE SIDEWALK ART SHOW: COCONUT R-85-474 48
GROVE ARTISTS GROUP SELECTED DATED
IN MAY, JULY AND AUGUST 1985.
20 ACCEPT BID AND NEGOTIATE LEASE OF R-85-475 48
CENTRUST REALTY COMPANY LEASE GROUND
FLOOR RETAIL SPACE IN MIAMI CONVEN-
TION CENTER PARKING GARAGE.
21 APPOINT MEMBERS TO THE STATUS OF R-85-476 49-51
WOMEN COMMISSION; PROVIDE FOR STAFF
PERSON, OFFICE SUPPLIES, BUDGET,
ETC.
22 DEFER CONSIDERATION OF SELECTION OF R-85-478 55-63
DEVELOPER FOR SITE 37 PARK M-85-477
WEST/OVERTOWN UNTIL SITE FOR HOTEL
BEING DEVELOPED BY NEW WASHINGTON
HEIGHTS IS RESOLVED 6 MONTH TIME
FRAME ETC.
23 DISCUSSION: TELEPHONE CALL FROM DISCUSSION 64
SENATOR PEPPER.
24 ALLOCATE $45,000 TO COVER NECESSARY R-85-479 64-66
EXPENSES OF POLICE OVERTOWN ATHLETIC
PROGRAM.
25 ACCEPT COMPLETED WORK-LYNWOOD SANI- R-85-480 66-67
TARY SEWER IMPROVEMENT SR-5487 C&S
PLUS ADDITIVE BIDS "E" AND "F.
26 CONFIRM PRELIMINARY ASSESSMENT R-85-481 67-68
ROLLS: KOUBEK SANITARY SEWER IM-
PROVEMENT SR-5477-C.
27 CONFIRM PRELIMINARY ASSESSMENTS R-85-482 68-69
ROLLS: KOUBEK SANITARY SEWER IM-
PROVEMENT SR-5477-S.
28 ALLOCATE $29000 IN SUPPORT OF R-85-483 69-71
TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO FOR CARIBBEAN
CULTURAL PROGRAM-GUSMAN CULTURAL
CENTER MAY 24.
29 ALLOCATE $12,000 IN CONNECTION WITH R-85-484 71
HOLDING OF "CARICOM CONFERENCE" WITH
CONDITIONS.
30 ALLOCATE $7,000 IN SUPPORT OF ASSO- R-85-485 71
CIATION OF LATIN AMERICAN ART AND
CULTURA IN COCONUT GROVE EXHIBITION
CENTER FOR EVENT MAY 24=261 1985•
31 AMEND CONTRACT AGREEMENT WITH SMALL R-85-486 72
BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY CENTER INC.
FROM $3796750 TO $46,000 CONTINUING
NEIGHBORHOOD ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
PROGRAM IN LITTLE HAVANA COMMERCIAL
DISTRICT.
32 ALLOCATE $7,270 IN SUPPORT OF "SEND R-85-487 73
A KID TO CAMP PROGRAM".
33 DISCUSSION OF LUMMUS PARK. DISCUSSION 74
34 PROCEED WITH PREPARATION OF R.F.P. M-85-488 74-76
IN CONNECTION WITH UNIFIED DEVELOP-
MENT PROGRAM FOR REDEVELOPMENT OF
OLYMPIA BUILDING; APPROVE MEMBERS OF
SELECTION COMMITTEE, EXTERNAL AUDI-
TORS.
35 ESTABLISH POLICY IN CONNECTION WITH M-85-489 76-83
MIAMI CENTER I DEVELOPMENT THAT NO
PERMANENT CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY
SHALL BE ISSUED UNTIL JUNE 13, 1985,
PENDING FURTHER ACTION.
36 ACCEPT ADMINISTRATIONS'S RECOMMEN- M-85-490 83-84
DCTION FOR ACQUISITION OF HIGHLAND M-85-491
PARK SITE FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND
INSTRUCT MANAGER TO ASSEMBLE STATIS-
TICAL INFORMATION REGARDING ACQUISI-
TION OF THE P.B.A. SITE
37 GRANT PARADE PERMIT: GAY PRIDE R-85-492 86-91
COMMITTEE JUNE 30, 1985 COCONUT
GROVE UPON PAYMENT OF EXPENSES I14
ADVANCE, ETC.
38 CONSENT AGENDA 91
38.1 ACCEPT COMPLETED WORK: GREEN'S POOL R-85-493 91
SERVICE - FOR EDISON POOL.
38.2 RESOLUTION ALLOCATING $100,000 C.D. R-85-494 92
BLOCK GRANT FUNDS FOR THE PURPOSE OF
IMPLEMENTING THE LATIN QUARTER
COMPREHENSIVE FACADE TREATMENT
PROGRAM
38.3 AUTHORIZING RESOLUTION:ISSUANCE OF R-85-495 91
WASTE COLLECTION LICENSE-WILLIAM
JOHNSON, D/B/A/ WORLD SANITATION.
38.4 AUTHTHORIZING RESOLUTION. PURCHASE R-85-496 92
COMPUTER EQUIPMENT FROM THE
BURROUGHS CORPORATION UNDER AN
EXISTING STATE OF FLORIDA CONTRACT.
38.5 DEED ACCEPTANCE. EIGHT (8) DEEDS OF R-85-497 92
DEDICATION FOR HIGHWAY PURPOSES.
38.6 AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTION AND DELIV- R-85-498 92
ERY OF CERTAIN CITY OF MIAMI, FLORI-
DA, HOUSING BONDS, OF 1984
38.7 ALLOCATING AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED R-85-499
$10,000 IN SUPPORT OF THE FIRST
ANNUAL PROFESSIONAL FOOTBALL PLAYERS
CHARITY BASKETBALL TOURNAMENT.
38.8 A RESOLUTION CORRECTING SCRIVENER'S R-85-500
ERROR AMENDING RESOLUTION NO. 85—
280, ADOPTED MARCH 21, 1985.
38.9 A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BID OF R-85-501
HECTOR TURF, INC. FOR FURNISHING
ONE (1) GREENS AERATOR FOR DEPART-
MENT OF PARKS AND RECREATION ($6,311.50)
38.10 A RESOLUTION. ALLOCATING AN AMOUNT 9-85-502
NOT TO EXCEED $81,846 FROM SPECIAL
PROGRAMS AND ACCOUNTS, QUALITY OF
LIFE FUND, TO THE DEPARTMENT OF
PARKS AND RECREATION FOR THE VIR—
GINIA BEACH FAMILY SPLASHDOWN DISCO
185 SERIES.
92
93
39 EMERGENCY ORDINANCE. ESTABLISH NEW ORD. 9990 93.1-94
REVENUE FUND SUMMER YOUTH EMPLOYMENT
AND TRAINING PROGRAM 1985 JPTA II—B.
40 SECOND READING ORDINANCE. AMEND SUM— ORD. 9991 95
MARY GRANT APPROPRIATIONS NEW T
& A FUND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK
GRANT 11TH YEAR APPROPIATING $14p40,000.
41 FIRST READING ORDINANCE. AMEND ANNUAL 1ST READING 96
APPROPRIATIONS ORDINANCE APPROPRIATE
$784,952 FOR MISCELLANEOUS PURPOSES.
42 AUTHORIZE AGREEMENT, CRAMER, HABER R-85-503 96-97
AND LUKIS P.C. PROFESSIONAL CONSULT—
ANT SERVICES —FEDERAL LEGISLATION
AS IT IMPACTS THE CITY OF MIAMI.
43 MANAGER TO PROVIDE BREAKDOWN OF M-85-504 97-102
EXPENSES OF WATSON ISLAND WITH PRO— R-85-505
VISIONS AUTHORIZE AGREEMENT WITH
TOUCHE—ROSS C.P.A. TO EVALUATE PRO—
POSALS FOR UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT PRO—
JECT WATSON ISLAND.
44 AUTHORIZE CONTRACT: E.P. IACONIS R-85-506 103
CPA TO ASSIST IN PREPARATION OF
DOCUMENTS -DISPOSITION AGREEMENTS
SELECTED DEVELOPERS SOUTHEAST PARK
WEST OVERTOWN PROJECT.
45 ACCEPT APPRAISAL PROPOSALS: SLACK, R-85-507 103-104
SLACK, AND ROE INC. MAI APPRAISERS —
FAIR MARKET VALUE OF BLOCKS 2 &
4 DUPONT PLAZA.
46 AUTHORIZE CONTRACT: FINANCIAL SYS— R-85-508 104-105
TEMS ASSOCIATES INC. DESIGN SPECIFI—
CATIONS TO IMPROVE CITY FINANCIAL
ACCOUNTING SYSTEM.
47 EXECUTE AGREEMENT: ALLOCATE $25,950 R-85-509 105
FOR ANNUAL CITY OF MIAMI YOUTH BASE—
BALL WORLD SERIES.
48 DISCUSSION ITEM: DEFER PROPOSAL DISCUSSION 106
ACCEPTANCE OF A $200,000 STATE OF
FLORIDA GRANT TO THE CITY.
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49 DISCUSSION OF CONTRACT WITH MS.
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SARAH EATON. COMMISSION WANTS HER
AS A FULL TIME CITY EMPLOYEE.
50 AUTHORIZE SALE OF SURPLUS FILL:
VIRGINIA KEY.
51 AUTHORIZE AMENDMENT TO AGREEMENT:
MANUEL G. VERA AND ASSOCIATES SUR-
VEYING SERVICES IN CONJUNCTION WITH
CITY CONTRACTED PROJECT.
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52 AUTHORIZE AMENDMENT TO AGREEMENT:
CAMPANILE AND ASSOCIATES INC.SURVEY-
ING SERVICES IN CONJUNCTION WITH
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CITY CONTRACTED PROJECT.
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53 DISCUSSION AND DEFERRAL: PROPOSED
MENDMENT TO AGREEMENT SCHWEBKE-
SHISHKIN AND ASSOCIATES INC. SUR-
VEYING SERVICES.
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54 FORMALIZING RESOLUTION: ALLOCATE
$15,000 TO FLORIDA HOUSING COOPERA-
TIVE INC. FOR *FLORIDA COOPERATIVE--
HOUSING FORUM".
55 AWARD BID: CLEANING ASSOCIATION
FOR CUSTODIAL SERVICES AT MANUEL
ARTIME COMMUNITY CENTER FOR 1-YEAR.
56 LONG DISCUSSION AND PUBLIC HEARING:
PROPOSED EXECUTIVE MAYOR FORM OF
GOVERNMENT AND EXPANSION OF COM-
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MISSION DEFERRED TO MAY 23RD.
57 AWARD BID: REAGAN EQUIPMENT CO.
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FOR INSTALLING EMERGENCY GENERATOR
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SET TO DEPT. OF BUILDING AND VEHICLE
MAINTENANCE.
58 AWARD BID: HEWLETT PACKARD CO. -
MICROWAVE SIGNAL GENERATOR, ETC.
59 AWARD BID: INFOTRON SYSTEM CORP.-
THREE (3) COMMUNICATION NERWORK
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CONCENTRATORS.
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60 LONG PUBLIC HEARING COUNCERNING
DISPOSITION OF PUBLIC LIBRARY BUILD-
ING LOCATED IN BAYFRONT PARK. (A)
PROCEED WITH IMPLEMENTATION OF BAY -
FRONT PARK REDEVELOPMENT -NO DECISION
ON LIBRARY PENDING MONIES, ETC. (B) PREPA-
RE BOND ISSUE FOR PUBLIC VOTE ON
ANTICIPATED SHORTFALL TO COMPLETE
REDEVELOPMENT OF BAYFRONT.
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61 ESTABLISH BAYSIDE SPECIALTY CENTER-
APPROPRIATE $1.998,000.00.
62 DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE FUNDING FROM
& PRIVATE SECTOR FOR BAYFRONT PARK
63 REDEVELOPMENT PROJECT AND DISPOSI-
CION OF LIBRARY BUILDING.
64 FIRST READING ORDINANCE: ATLAS CHAN-
GE FROM RS-2/2 TO R01/5 AREA GENE-
RALLY BOUNDED BY I-95 METRORAIL
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R.O.W. S.W. 17 RD. S.W. 2 AVE. ETC.
DISCUSSION 108
R-85-510 109
R-85-511 110
R-85-512 111
R-85-113 112
R-85-513 113
R-85-514 113-114
M-85-515 114-136
R-85-516 136-137
R-85-517 137-138
R-85-518 138
R-85-519 139-185
M-85-520
ORD. 9992 185-187
DISCUSSION 187-196
1ST READING 196
65 FIRST READING ORDINANCE. ORD. 9500
ATLAS CHANGE FROM RS2/2 TO R03/5 AREA
AT APPROXIMATELY 1600 S.W. 2ND AVE-
NUE.
66 FIRST READING ORDINANCE: ORD. 9500
ATLAS CHANGE FROM RG2/5 TO 903/5
IN AREA GENERALLY BOUNDED BY S.W.
2ND COURT, S.W. 15TH ROAD, S.W.
1SRT AVENUE AND A LINE PARALLEL
TO AND APPROXIMATELY 115-150 FT.
S.W. OF S.W. 15TH ROAD.
67 FIRST READING ORDINANCE: ORD. 9500
ATLAS CHANGE FROM RG2/5 IN AREA
GENERALLY BOUNDED BY S.W. 2ND AVE.
S.W. 17TH ROAD, S.W. 1 AVE. AND
A LINE PARALLEL TO AND APPROXIMATELY
390 FOOT N.E. OF S.W. 17 ROAD.
1ST READING 198-199
1ST READING 198-199
1ST READING 199-200
68 ALLOCATE $15,500 IN SUPPORT OF "MIA- R-85-521
MI -DARE TRADE AND TOURIST COMMISSION"
TO ALLOW THEM TO OPERATE PENDING
OUTSTANDING AUDIT.
69 CLAIM SETTLEMENT: JOHN PEL ELLIS-
$50,000.
70 BRIEF DISCUSSION ITEM: ADMINISTRA-
TION INFORMS THE COMMISSION THAT
THE U.S.S.R. WILL NOT SEND PARTICI-
PANTS TO THIS YEAR XXVIII C.O.T.A.
L. WORLD CONGRESS IN MIAMI.
71 RESOLUTION ALLOWING DISPLAY OF FI-
REWORKS IN MIAMI.
200
R-85-522 200
DISCUSSION 201
R-85-523 201
72
BRIEF COMMENTS REGARDING PROPOSED
DISCUSSION 202
STRICT REGULATION AND ENFORCEMENT
OF LAWS REGARDING "CRUISING". (DE-
FERRED).
73
RESOLUTION EXPRESSING FULL SUPPORT
R-85-524
OF ANTI -COMMUNIST POSITION PRESENTED
BY ERNESTO DE LA FE IN THE "PRIMERA
DEMOCRACIA CONTINENTAL COMBATIENTE
CONFERENCE", HELD IN SAN SALVADOR.
74
BRIEF COMMENT: COMMISSIONER PEREZ
DISCUSSION 203
CONVEYS TO ADMINISTRATION COMPLAINTS
RECEIVED FROM CITY RESIDENTS RE.
HALF BALLS WHICH ARE PLACED ON LAWNS
TO AVOID IMPROPER PARKING DEFERRED.
75
BRIEF COMMENT: REGARING NECESSARY
DISCUSSION 203
ADVERTISING OF TWO VACANCIES PRESEN-
TLY EXISTING IN THE CIVIL SERVICE
BOARD.
MINUTES OF REGULAR MEETING OF THE
CITY COMMISSION OF MIAMI, FLORIDA
On the 9th day of May, 1985, the City Commission of
Miami, Florida, met at its regular meeting place in the City
Hall, 3500 Pan American Drive, Miami, Florida in regular
session.
The meeting was called tn order at 9:10 O'Clock A.M. by
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre with the following members hf the
Commission found tm be present:
Commissioner Demetrin Perez, Jr.
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo **
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
* arrived 9:14 A.M.
** arrived 9:39 A.M.
ALSO PRESENT:
Sergio Pereira, City Manager
Lucia Allen Dougherty, City Attorney
Ralph G. Ongie, City Clerk
Matty Hirai, Assistant City Clerk
An invocation was delivered by Mayor Ferre who then led
those present in a pledge of allegiance to the flag.
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1. PLAQUES, PRESENTATIONS AND SPECIAL ITEMS.
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PROCLAMATION: Dia de Rita Monaner (In Memoriam). Presented
to Rolando Fernan ez Montaner.
PROCLAMATION: Older Americans Month. Presented tn Dorothy
Quintana.
PROCLAMATION: Harmnny Month. Presented tn Mr. Bert Warshaw
and the Barbershop uar e .
SCROLL: Presented to Mayor Maurice A. Ferre by Amigos
de S.E.R.
PROCLAMATION: To Adrianne Johnson, recently selected 111985
Miss Collegiate Black America".
COMMENDATION: To Officer William Clayton, Officer of the
Month for March,
PROCLAMATION: Crime Prevention Month. Presented to Sandra
Andrews, Urban League.
COMMENDATIONS: To those individuals participating in the
Urban League's Crime Awareness Poster Contest.
COMMENDATION: May 12 through 18, 1985 - Historic
Preservation Week. Presented to Don Slesnick.
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PROCLAMATION: Creative Crime:P_revention_ Day.. Presented to
Chief Clarence Dickson.
COMMENDATIONS: To the students participating in the
., Creative Crime Prevention Project.
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PROCLAMATION: Pia del Reverendo VictorioGarcia-Sarbon.
COMMENDATIONS: To the Miami Police Officers who
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2. INSTRUCT CITY MANAGER TO MEET WITH CHIEF OF POLICE
REGARDING NEEDS AND FUNDING REQUIREMENTS OF P.S.A.
POSITIONS.
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Mayr+r Ferre: Chief, while we have you here and before you
leave, would you go to the microphone for a moment.
Commissioners Carollo and Plummer, particularly over the
years has shown a tremendous dedication towards and en ncern
for the problems that afflict this community dealing with
crime and support of the Police Department. I want to take
this opportunity to congratulate you, commend you for the
job that you have done - you and your men and women in
uniform and ask you if there is anything at this particular
time that this City of Miami Commission can do, that we have
not done and needs to be done in support. I understand that
the statistics and crime, not only in the City of Miami, but
in Dade County and Florida and all over the nation seem to
be shooting up this last couple of months and I just want to
make sure that we have done everything we can without our
power of what you are trying to do.
Chief Dickson: Thank you, Mr. Mayor and Commissioners. As
a matter of fact, crime is on the increase throughout Dade
County and in my own concern for the City of Miami, and
recently we did a study which shows each of our patrol
officers on the street have about 18 minutes of each hour to
do preventive kind of patrol work. This is includes time
for rest and to do other things. 18 minutes of each hour
during the day that he works is not quite enough to do
preventive kinds of patrols of those things that prevent
crimes. What we need right now, sir, is the aid of
additional public service aides. Public service aides would
reduce the amount of time that a police officer has to spend
on reports and other non -emergency or non -emergency type
crime situations. The public service aides - as a matter of
fact, in 1980, we asked for a hundred P.S.A.'s and we have
maxed out at about 60. We never achieved the original
request. That would help us tremendously, if we could, in
fact, get some help to achieve that number.
Mayor Ferre: Well, Chief, are you talking about doing that
immediately, or for the next budget year, because I think
from what I am hearing, that we need this yesterday, and I
don't know how the rest of my colleagues feel, but if
someone will make a motion in support, I would certainly
encourage it, vote for it. I think we need to support you
in every request. Crime is a serious business and we have
got to confront it head on and that is the number one
problem and the number one need in this community.
Mr. Dawkins: Mr. Mayor I make a motion that we give the
City Manager directions to work with the Police Chief and
determine what is needed, cost of that, and how we can do it
immediately.
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Mayor Ferre: All right, is there a second?
Mr. Caroller: Second.
Mayor Ferre: All right, as I understand the intent of the
motion is that we instructing the Administration to proceed
immediately in complying with that request so that we
relieve police officers to do more direct field work. Yes
sir, Mr. Manager?
Mr. Pereira: Mr. Mayor, I have been dealing with the Police
Chief and we have talked abnut this particular problem. In
trying to address it in the next budget year, I would
request that at least you give as the flexibility to see how
much we can accommodate within this budget year and that
there might be a residual that will implement this and start
our next budget year.
Mr. Dawkins: Mr. Manager, the only problem I have with that
is, when people come up here for social programs aril
festivals and such, we find the money. That means that we
will not be able to fund any more festivals or what have you
and provide police to make the streets safe, sir, I would
hope that we would do that. I am not asking ynu to operate
at a deficit, because we can't, but if you can show me where
I could not fund any more festivals, or if I cannnt give out
any more patronage, and I must fund policemen, I would take
that rnad, sir.
Mr. Pereida: All I am asking is for the flexibility to work
within and come back to you with the implementation.
Mr. Dawkins: I think the Mayer will give you that, sir.
Mayor Ferre: I think that is implicit in the motion.
Mr. Pereira: Thank you.
Mayor Ferre: Are we ready to vote nn this ,notion, now? All
right, call the roll, please.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner
Dawkins, who mn✓ed its adoption:
MOTION NO. 85-461
A MOTION DIREC'fiNG 'THE CITY MANAGER TO
MEET WITH THE CHIEF OF POLICE TO
DETERMINE THE COST TO THE CITY OF
IMPLEMENTING ADDITIONAL P.S.A.
POSITIONS, AS MORE FULLY OUTLINED BY THE,
CHIEF OF POLICE ON THIS DATE.
Upon being seennded by Commissioner Carollo, the motion
was passed and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Jrwe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
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3. APPROVE FINDINGS OF SURVEY OF POTENTIAL CO -TENANTS OF
PROPOSED MIAMI INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS CENTER.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Landy, if you would step forward. This is
Item 39•
Mr. Burton Landy: Thank you, Mr. Mayor and Commissioners.
I have the honor of chairing the Miami International Trade
and Development Committee, you will recall, is a committee
of volunteers of principally business leaders in the
International Sector, who are working together with the
Department of Economic Development in developing this
strategic plan for international business development for
the City for the next five years. Perhaps the mist
important part nf our strategy, which we will be presenting
to this Commission next month, is the creation of the
International Business Center in Miami. In October of 1984,
this Commission did support in principle the creation of the
International Business Center and we are now at a point
where we want to begin implementing it and we are here today
to ask for two things - one is for a resolution to authorize
the commencement of lease negotiations to find the mast
appropriate location, and secondly, to enter into a
professional services contract with Rick Geraghty, to help
in the organization and implementation stages. We have,
through a sub -committee, conducted a survey to find out who
would be the potential users and occupants of this
International Business Center and we have identified in
addition to the Economic Department of the City - the
International Business Center, the Florida International
Bankers Association, Florida Exporters and Importers
Association. We think a number of the bi-national Chambers
of Commerce, the Foreign Trade promotion offices and a
number of organizations will locate so that we can have a
truly one -stop international center - a world trade center
concept that we think will attract a number of other
organizations to help have a professional coordination of
international business development efforts from the single
central location. Incidentally, as you know, the Beacon
Council is undergoing its final deliberations for an
economic development plan for the entire county, and I am
confident that on Saturday the Beacon Council will endorse
this concept as the International Business Center, so I am
asking at this time of the Commission that you authorize the
sub -committee to commence lease negotiations, to locate the
most appropriate location within the City for locating the
International Business Center and also to engage in a
professional services contract with Mr. Geraghty.
Mr.Geraghty, it is very fortunate to have available to us,
is quite familiar with the project and has worked on this
project from its inception, and we think ...
Mayor Ferre: Is Mr. Geraghty here?
Mr. Landy: Yes, he is. Rick?
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Geraghty, okay. Now, as I understand this
professional contract with Mr. Geraghty is for what period
of time?
Mr. Landy: Approximately three or four months, and it is
for a maximum of $13,000.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Manager, this has your recommendation?
Mr. Pereira: Yes, it does.
Mayor Ferre:
Any questions?
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Mr. Plummer: Approximately now many square feet are you
going to be looking for?
Mr. Landy: We think we have identified a core tenant of
about 200000 square feet. We would like to have the ability
to expand, because we do believe that once the center gets
started, it will attract many other tenants, so we hope that
the location that we finally wind up with will have space
available for expansion so that other organizations can come
and locate there, but initially about 209000.
Mr. Dawkins: Mr. Mayor, would I be in order if I were te)
suggest to the Manager that we attempt to utilize the Dupont
Plaza, in It'
h-at the Dupnnt Plaza is one of the few hotels who
have stuck by us and it is down there struggling in these
times of short dollars. We have also hindered its income
and revenue by tearing up the roads which the City of Miami
did for the betterment of the City of Miami and I think that
I have never known any of us to go to the Dupont Plaza and
ask for something that would benefit the City that we did
not get it. And I would just like to know if I would be in
order if we suggest it to the Manager that they try to
attempt to find some spjue in the Dupnnt Plaza.
Mayr w Ferre: I think that would be fine. I don't think we
can give them an order, but we can certainly recommend that
they seriously give it serious consideration.
Mr. Pereira: We will give it serious consideration to that
site.
Mr. Dawkins: T}han',c y-lo, Mr. Mayor.
Mr. Plum.ner: Let me just ask a question - Sergio or Burton,
I think that maybe one of the things that you might want to
do - the University of Miami is not using, has net used
their space in the convention center. Why couldn't you try
to strike a deal with them, because that space is just going
for naught at this present time and possibly we could get a
good deal from them from $1.00 up, and i (:,-iulJn't think of a
better location for you to be, so at least I think you
should try to ...
Mr. Landy: Cnmmissinner Plummer, I might assure the Mayor
and all the Commissioners that we are not excluding any
site, really in the City of Miami. There has been a
preliminary survey and they have looked intn the Knight
Center. There is a question of having suffi,:i,-.nt space
therti. There might be enough space for a few offices, but
not of what we understand to accommodate the great amount of
space that we think this will take eventually. No space has
been selected yet and no space will be excluded. We will
definitely look at, I am sure, the Dupont Plaza and the
Knight Center again, but we do want to move forward on this
project, because we think `he dining is right and we will
come back with what we feel will. be the best recommendation.
Mayor Ferre: All right, any other questions on Item 39?
Mr. Perez: Mr. Landy, what kind of participatinn :in we
expect from the County government?
Mr. Landy: Well, that is a very interesting question,
Commissioner. I had a meeting with a Merritt Stierheim and
Ted Hepner, who are co-chairs of the Beacon Council to tell
them about this program and they are very enthusiastic about
it, and suggested that various agencies of the County might
also look at the Center, including specifically the seaport
and the airport, sn I think that once we get this moving
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along, and if the Beacon Cnun,:11 enle%rses this strategy
which I am confident tt will, I think we can look for County
participation as well.
Mayor Ferre: Well, let me just say, Burton, on behalf of
all e�f us, h-14 very proud we are of the work that you as
Chairman, and all of your committee - I don't think there is
a mare distinguished panel of citizens in the committee you
have and I think the hours and months of work that you have
put in is going to pay off. Certainly there is nobody in
this community mire international than yourself. We are
very fortunate to have a distinguished son of Korea, Hong
Kong, of many other places around the world, take this kind
of an interest in showing civic leadership. We are indeed
fortunate, so I don't know if there are any other questions,
but I am ready to take a motion if somebody wants to move
it.
Mr. Perez: I would like, Mr. Mayor, to first recognize the
efforts and contributions personally of Mr. Burton Landy for
a long time to this community and for this subcommittee and
I think we have to be proud of the record that they have
established here. I would like to move this motion to
authorize the sub -committee.
Mayor Ferre: Is there a second on Item 39?
Mr. Dawkins: Second.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner
Perez, who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 85-462
A RESOLUTION RECOMMENDING THAT THE CITY
COMMISSION APPROVE THE FINDINGS OF A SURVEY
OF POTENTIAL CO -TENANTS IN THE PROPOSED
MIAMI INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS CENTER AND OF
AVAILABLE OFFICE SPACE IN MIAMI AND
AUTHORIZING THE CITY OF MIAMI INTERNATIONAL
TRADE AND DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE'S
INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS CENTER SUB -COMMITTEE
TO COMMENCE LEASE NEGOTIATIONS ON BEHALF OF
THE CITY OF MIAMI AND TO RECOMMEND TO THE
CITY COMMISSION THE MOST APPROPRIATE SITE
LOCATION AND ATTENDANT LEASE FOR MIAMI'S
"INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS CENTER" AND FURTHER
AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTION OF A PROFESSIONAL
SERVICES CONTRACT, IN A FORM ACCEPTABLE T
THE CITY ATTORNEY, IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO
EXCEED $139000 WITH RICHARD B. GERAGHTY WHO
WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR SUPERVISING AND
MANAGING THE DEVELOPMENT OF MIAMI'S
INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS CENTER THROUGH THE
INITIAL PLANNING AND ORGANIZATIONAL STAGES
TO THE POINT OF IMPLEMENTATION AND
OPERATION.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here
and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Dawkins, the
resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
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ABSENT: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayer Ferre: Now, Burton, before you leave, 1 see that Mr.
March Davonport from the development office of Hong Kong,
the commercial office of Hong Kong is here, and 1 would like
to take the opportunity - I understand that you on behalf of
the Chamber of Commerce lead an initiative trip to Korea and
Hong Kong, which was very successful. I might point out to
the Commission that last year, two years ago, the government
of Hong Kong established an office here in Miami. The
office of Hong Kong was established so as to further the
commercial interests of Hong Kong and Miami. Last year Mr.
March Davenport hosted a party here for his boss, Mr.
Dunning, who came from Hong Kong with his staff. At that
party (I was invited and I went to see Mr. Dunning) he told
me that of the 20 offices that the government of Hong Kong
had open around the world, the one that was producing the
least was Miami, that they were very surprised as to how
little movement there had been here, and that we needed to
address it immediately. The Chamber of Commerce did that.
The City of Miami immediately started looking into the
possibilities - to put it into perspective, the best example
of the free enterprise system in the world is Hong Kong,
where there are no taxes, there are no regulations, and it
does 43 billion dollars worth of business in one year, of
trade in a city of less than 69000,000. It is without a
question, a major, major economic center for the world, and
certainly is one of interest to Miami. We started well aver
a year ago the planning of a commercial trip to Hong Kong.
I didn't like what the Herald put in the headlines. We
didn't want it to be a junket. We wanted it to be an
effective working trip, not because Houston and Dallas and
San Antonin and a 150 other American cities that have had
these trips to Hong Kong and Miami has not, but because
there are a lot of people in Miami that are now doing
business in Hong Kong. There are at least a dozen Cuban
Americans and American business people that are doing
substantial amounts of business with Hong Kong and I thought
that the way for us to make some substantial impact is to
use them as the vehicle to open the doors for us. We have
now asked them to join us and there are close to a dozen
who have either committed or ... a dozen Miamians who have
agreed to take this trip to Hong Kong for the City of Miami
and I would like at this point, Charlotte, if you would
address the issue and Burton, if you could just stay for
another minute and see if we have any questions.
Ms. Charlotte Gallogly: Following up on a comment that Mr.
Landy said in developing the City strategic plan for
international trade, one of the major priorities that is
coming forward is the need to diversify the market and a
proposal that will be coming before you in June is that we
do that by taking a limited number, but a series of high
profile trade missions to Asia and to Europe in an effort to
open those markets to Miami so that we are not solely
-_ dependent upon the Central American, South American,
Carribean market. This specific missinn that we have been
working with the Hong Kong Trade Development Council on has
-- four major objective. First tn inaugurate the series of
high -profile missions and these missions are buying and
selling missions. We are actually taking traders with us
and importers and exporters. Second, to communicate to the
Hong Kong business community, Miami's financial business
interest that they are very similar; third to establish an
awareness ih Miami of the opportunities that those markets
provide. As a matter of fact, as a result of that article,
I received a number of phone calls in the office yesterday
from people in the import, export business interested in
learning more about the trip because they have not gotten
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into that market yet and they are looking for a means to do
so. The fourth thing would be to increase the local
awareness of the important economic benefits that can accrue
to the business community here through opening up what we
call "non-traditional markets". Those are essentially the
core objectives. All the people that are going at this
point are primarily manufacturing firms and import and
export firms, and we estimate that these firms that are
currently are doing about a quarter billion dollars through
the Hong Kong community.
Mayor Ferre: How much did you say?
Ms. Gallogly: About a quarter of a billion dollars, and I
think that is conservative. One of the things that we are
going to do ...
Mayor Ferre: A quarter of a billion - $250,000,000 that
Miami does with Hong Kong?
Ms. Gallogly: Yes. We hope to get a more precise number as
we solidify the number of people who are going. We are
going to be asking them a series of questions about the
nature of that trade. These are large companies and are
very important to the Miami economy. In addition, we will
be arranging for Mayor Ferre and members of the delegation
to meet with what we consider to be the most important
business and government leaders in Hong Kong. Those are
obviously the U. S. Consul General, the Chairman of the
Urban Consul, which is Chairman of their government,
directors of the Department of Trade, the American Chamber
of Commerce, the Hong Kong Tourist Association and a variety
of Hong Kong Trade manufacturers that we can talk about
opening up trade opportunities with them. Essentially that
is the focus of this mission.
Mayor Ferre: I might point out that all of this began with
Mr. Dunning's trip here to Miami and his complaint that
Miami wasn't doing enough business with Hong Kong.
f Strangely enough, I mentioned it to a Cuban American by the
name of Turner, and Mr. Turner, who is a major trader here
j in this community, and then I mentioned it to George
Feldencrist and Able Holtz and to Ted Hallo and to other
people that do have offices and do businesses in Hong Kong
and they were very encouraging. They said absolutely. Our
focus is unlike Burton's trip, which was a generalized type
of a thing with Chamber of Commerce people and attorneys and
real estate people. We wanted to kind of focus on people
that are buying and selling in Hong Kong, so what we have is
perhaps as many as a dozen business people who do major
business in Hong Kong and the target date is June 28th?
Ms. Gallogly: 27th through July 4th - driving back to Miami
on the 4th.
Mayor Ferre: Do we need any action at this time?
Ms. Gallogly: No, this is placed on the agenda to inform
the Commission about it and to determine what their
f particular interest is in participating in the trip.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Davenport, we are grateful for your
presence here. Why don't you step forward - if there is
anything you want to add in your comments, or your opinions
as to whether this is an important contribution or
development.
Mr. March Davenport: Thank you, I am March Davenport, the
Hong Kong Trade Development Council representative. As
Mayor Ferre said, we opened our office two years ago here in
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May 9,
1985
(Mr. Davenport. Cont'd): Miami to promote the trade between
Hong Kong and South Florida. I would like to clarify one
paint. We are as much interested in having the goods and
services manufactured and sold here in South Florida sold to
Hong Kong as we are in promoting trade from Hong Kong to
Miami. Our offices afford a two-way trade which is probably
unique among all foreign government trade organixatinns. We
are very pleased to be supporting this initiative. We are
doing all we can. We have got a very good response from the
public sector and the private sector so far. This will be a
self sustaining mission. The members of the private sector
members going will be going at their own expense. The
American flag carrier, Pan American will be the carrier. We
are very pleased to be working with the Mayor's office and
with Ms. Gallogly's office and establishing high level
appointments with counterparts in Hong Kong and the tourism
sectors, in immigratimn sectors, in a variety of sectors
which are important in Miami as well in Hong Kong. There is
a great deal of similarity to Hong Kong and Miami. Both are
financial sectors. Both are heavily dependent on
international trade and commerce. They are both largely
dependent on our seaport and airport for the high level
economic activity we have. In both tourism destinations and
both Senate trip destinations we have the same sorts of
problems in working in large elements of displaced persons
into our economy. In the case of the British Crown Colony
of Hong Kong, we have had an enormous inflow of Chinese
refugees, which had to be worked in the mainstream, which we
think we have done quite successfully, which of course
parallels the problems here in Miami, so I think that as you
look into this trip, you will be encouraged by it - you will
want to take part. You will be encouraged by the great
similarities between Hong Kong and Miami and we hope you
will find this to be a very valuable learning experience.
Thank you.
Mayor Ferre: Burton, is there anything you want to warn us
on, or advise us?
Mr. Landy: Mr. Mayor, I think the idea of following up a
mission - shortly after the one that we just came back from,
there is an outstanding idea. We were there in March. We
were very well received, but it is clear that Miami is still
not a traditional destination, nor very well known in Hong
Kong, and that is going to take a series of trips and
missions such as this and I think the one that has just been
described to you is a very complimentary one to the one that
we just took, because the mission members on the trip that
we took in March was primarily as you observed in the
services area, and that to come back now with people who are
actually going to buy and sell and do business I think is a
wonderful follow up and I think the timing couldn't be
better. I would very much support this effort.
Mayor Ferre: All right, any questions of Charlotte, or Mr.
Davenport, or Mr. Landy? There is no action needed as I
understand it.
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5. MIAMI-DADE TRADE AND TOURISM COMMISSION - AUTHORIZE
CONTINUED FUNDING UNTIL MAY 23RD9 ETC.
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Mayor Ferre: Agenda Item "E" - go ahead sir.
Mr. Henry Gibbons: Before I start, Mr. Mayor,
to read to you and members of the Commission a
am sure that all of you received a copy of it.
is from the Ambassador of Sri Lanka. And it is
I would like
letter, and I
This letter
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"Dear Mr. Gibbons: I would like to take this
opportunity on behalf of the Honorable Prime
Minister of Sri Lanka and his delegation for the
warmth which he received, and the City of Miami
for all of the arrangements which you so kindly
made in order to make his brief stopover a
memorable visit. Mr. Chitty has told me that the
arrangements you have made for the arrival and
the departure at the airport and for the
accomodations at the hotel were excellent. The
Prime Minister was very pleased to meet a party
of the City elders who received them at the Grand
Bay Hotel on the 25th. He was sorry to have
missed the Mayor of Miami and the Mayor of Dade
County, who I understand were away on business in
Europe. However, it was most gratifying that the
Mayor of Miami arranged through you for a Key to
the City to be presented to the Prime Minister on
that occasion. I am taking the liberty to copy
this letter to the Metropolitan Dade County
Commission, as I feel that your signal service
to us in connection with the Honorable Prime
Minister's visit is also a reflect1nn on the
foresight of the Metropolitan Dade County
Commission in working through you and your
organization."
Mr. Mayor, we can't continue to accomplish these things if
we are not properly funded.
Mayor Ferre: Now wait a moment, Henry, you came and asked
us for $75,000. This Commission voted for those funds
without one negative vote. It was a unanimous vote, so
don't come telling us that we haven't been funding you.
Mr. Gibbons: We have not received all of the funds that are
due our agency. That is the reason I am here.
Mayor Ferre: You have not received what?
Mr. Gibbons: We have not received all of the funds that are
due the agency. That is why I am here.
Mayor Ferre: All right, Mr. Manager ...
Mr. Pereira: Mr. Mayor, I am sorry. I had 22 people come
in and whispering ...
Mayor Ferre: This is Item "E".
Mr. Pereira: I know what it is, but I don't know what the
question Mr. ...
Mayor Ferre: He is saying that they have not been funded
properly - the funds that were appropriated by this
Commission.
Mr. Pereira: The organization has received $35,000 from the
City of Miami to operate. There is a balance of the $75,000
grant that was proposed for the organization that has not
been released. There are a series of questions regarding
the order of the organization and how those funds were
disbursed. At this time, I was prepared to submit to you a
report; however I was informed by Metropolitan Dade County
yesterday that they ... and our recommendation is predicated
on actions by the County. The County Commission on Tuesday
deferred this item and it will not be on until May 21st and
I would respectfully request of the Commission that we allow
the County to take action because their action predicates
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May 9, 1985
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what we do in
terms of the resolution
of this problem and
your Administration is asking before
we make a
recommendation
to you, that we give them
that opportunity.
Mayor Ferre:
Mr. Manager, let me ask
you this question.
=
Did the County
fund this organization as
well as the City?
Y'.
Mr, Pereida:
My understanding is that
they funded it last
year - yes.
Mayor Ferre:
The Miami -Dade Trade and
Tourism Commission
was funded by
Metropolitan Dade County
as well as the City
of Miami? How
much did you received from Metropolitan Dade
j County?
Mr. Gibbons: $75,000.
Mayor Ferre: $75,000. So you received $75,000 from us and
$75,000 from
them. You are saying you received the full
$75,000 from
the County?
Mr. Gibbons:
Yes, sir.
Mayor Ferre:
And you haven't received the full $75,000 from
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the City?
Mr. Gibbons:
Wait, just a minute, Mr. Mayor. Hold it. We
received our
funds from Metropolitan Dade County.
Mayor Ferre:
Yes.
^'
Mr. Gibbons:
The City of Miami, and if you will just let me
bk
take my time,
I will explain it to you. The City of Miami,
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under Mr. Rosencrantz, gave us an emergency $35,000 to keep
us operating
to a certain period of time, and gave me a
guideline by
which to use the $35,000. We followed that
guideline to
the letter of the word and the use of that
$35,000. Ms.
Gallogly and the City Manager's office told us
`
that they would
fund us ...
(INAUDIBLE BACKGROUND
COMMENTS)
Mr. Gibbons: ... Ms. Gallogly and the Manager's office told
us that they would fund us through April and May at 100%
until the matter with Dade County was resolved. That is the
issue now, simply because they had not given us the money
for April and May so we can continue to operate.
Mr. Plummer: So you have got what?...$35,000?
Mr. Gibbons: We have gotten the $35,000.
Mr. Plummer: So what you are saying is, you are still
dragging $40,000 from the City.
Mr. Gibbons: The monies that they had promised us that
would enable us to operate at 100% for the month of April
and the month of May.
Mayor Ferre: Wait a minute. Now Mr. Gibbons, the Manager
has requested that we not take action on this, but that we
give him an opportunity to wait until Metropolitan Dade
County has concluded and then come back. I would hope Mr.
Manager that you could bring it back at the next meeting,
R which is two weeks from today.
Mr. Pereira: Oh, definitely it will be at the next meeting.
No question about that.
Mayor Ferre: All right, Mr. Gibbons.
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Mr. Gibbons: This is not fair, and the reason that it is
not fair is because they promised to us that they would fund
.: us at a 100% level for April and May. That is what they
r._ told us and the documentation is here where they said that.
Mr. Dawkins: Mr. Manager, why, I mean, is what Mr. Gibbons
saying a fact, in that we promised to fund them 100% and we
didn't, or if we didn't, why not? And what is the
justification for it. sir?
Mr. Pereira: Let me ask the Assistant Manager, Walter
Pierce, who has been working with the organization to
address that question.
Mr. Walter Pierce: Mr. Mayor and members of the Commission,
back in February the Commission approved $35,000 pending
resolution of all audit problems.
Mr. Dawkins: Hold it now, you lost me. I mean, I want to
be sure we understand. We appropriated $75,000?
Mr. Pierce: No, sir.
Mr. Dawkins: Well, that is what he says. Now who is
correct, now?
Mr. Pierce: Well, Commissioner Dawkins, we will be happy to
make ...
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` Mr. Gibbons: We were budgeted ...
Mr.
Dawkins:
Wait, before we
go any further, Mr.
Gibbons,
we
have to be
sure what amount
we are discussing.
Mr.
Pierce:
Mr. Dawkins, may
I go back a little bit
in time
to
bring us all
up to date? The $75,000 funding by
the City
of
Miami and
Metropolitan Dade
County was a period
of 1983-
-
1984.
Mr. Dawkins: Did they get that money?
Mr. Pierce: They got that money, both ...
Mr. Dawkins: They got $759000?
Mr. Pierce: Both from the City and the County.
Mr. Dawkins: No, no, no. I am not interested in the County
right now. They got $75,000 from the City?
Mr. Pierce: Yes.
Mr. Dawkins: That is correct, now so when he says he did
not get $75,000, that is an error.
Mr. Pierce: He got $75,000, 1983-1984.
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Mr. Dawkins: Now go ahead sir, please.
Mr. Pierce: They have run into some audit problems based on
the 1983-1984 contract. Subsequent to the expiration of
that contract, they submitted after the end of the contract
period a request for, I believe it was $150,000 funding for
j 1984-1985. We did not that request until very late in 1984.
They came before the Commission finally in 1985, February.
i The Commission at that time - the recommendation was for
$75,000. They still had the audit problems. The Commission -_
approved $35,000 to be a part of a total commitment of
$75,000 for this contract period. The $35,000 was not
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permitted to be expended until all of the audit problems
were resolved. We have expended that $35,000. What Mr.
Gibbons is now asking is that the balance of the $75000 be
allocated and made available to them.
Mr. Gibbons: That is not what I am asking and let's back
UP* it was not $75,000. The City, for this budget, is
supposed to fund us at $100,000, the County at $75,000 for
nine months, which comes to $100,0000 and what I am saying,
Mr. Mayor, is that they have promised to us that they would
honor the obligation at 100% for April and 100% for May and
at that time those audit findings should be cleared, and
this is what they promised and this is what we were lead to
believe, and that is what I am asking for.
Mayor Ferre: All right, Mr. Manager ... what, having heard
the position that Mr. Gibbons has explained here, I
understand the dilemma and I am going to be following your
recommendation, but I do think that time is of the essence,
because obviously there was a commitment made and that
commitment has not been ...
Mr. Pereida: The commitment ... excuse me interrupting, Mr.
Mayor - the commitment was made in principle and predicated
on certain things happening. What I am saying to you is
those things have not happened, and until I can come to you
and responsibly make a recommendation, and I think we will
be able to do that at the next Commission meeting!
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Manager, as I said, I will be backing your
position and Henry, I am sorry, I hope that in the next two
weeks we can resolve this, because I don't think there is
anything else we can dot
Mr. Gibbons: (INAUDIBLE, OFF MICROPHONE)
Mr. Dawkins: Is that a true statement, Mr. Pierce? Hold
it, watch your blood pressure.
Mr. Gibbons: It is already up, Miller, what else?
Mr. Pierce: Mr. Dawkins, first I would say that it would be
irresponsible for me, as an Administrator of the City of
Miami to commit to any monies that the Commission has not
addressed. The Commission has not addressed anything beyond
the $35,000.
Mr. Dawkins: That is not the question. The question is -
listen closely now - the gentlemen says that Ms. Gallogly's
office informed him that if he provided certain information,
the money would be forthcoming - is that correct, is that
what you said?
Mr. Gibbons: Yes, sir, he needed certain documents.
Mr. Dawkins: Okay, hold it. I don't care what - it was
information, okay? Is that a true statement?
Mr. Pierce: It is a true statement in the sense what ...
Mr. Dawkins: All right now, hold it. Did you provide the
information they requested?
Mr. Gibbons: They never requested it.
Mr. Pierce: Commissioner, if we asked for information and
the information is still is not the standard enough to back
up the position that we are trying to get to, then the
information is not adequate, and that is the problem. We
still have unanswered questions on records.
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Mr. Gibbons: Mr. Carollo, let me ask you. If I told you 1
wanted information from you and you never t6ld me what you
wanted, how could 1 answer you?
Mayor Ferre: That is why the ...
Mr. Carollo: That is the question, Henry.
Mayor Ferre: That is why the question is being asked if
that is so, or not, because if it is, then in effect what
we are doing is ...
Mr. Plummer: Did you so notify him that the information
that he gave you was inadequate?
Mr. Pierce: I am sorry, Commissioner?
Mr. Plummer: Did you, once you received the information he
provided, did you inform him that that was inadequate
information?
Mr. Pierce: As far as I know, we have! On every
submission.
Mr. Plummer: Not is far as you know. Did they, or did they
not. He said that he was in his office on the 29th until
the 1st. What day did you provide the information?
Mr. Gibbons: Sir?
Mr. Plummer: What day did you provide them with the
information as requested?
Mr. Gibbons: I sent them that letter as of May 1st
indicating that they have not given me - I requested the
information that they wanted and I keep calling.
Mr. Plummer: Had they responded since then?
Mr. Dawkins: Mr. Gibbons, we could override the Manager.
Listen closely now. We could override the Manager and
create something here that none of us want. Now, I think it
is in all of our interests, the Commission, the Manager, and
yours. This is just my personal opinion, now, that we allow
the Manager the time he needs to bring back what he needs
for us to vote intelligently on this. Now, if you come back
and we have got the same problem, then it is obvious that
some one is not operating in good faith, and therefore that
we, the Commission would have to say to you, "You are
correct, sir" and therefore we have to take some steps. I
mean, I don't know anything other.
Mr. Gibbons: Mr. Dawkins, I appreciate very much what you
are saying, but there is actually no point in coming back,
and the reason there is no point in coming back is simply
because I cannot tell the landlord any longer who is
threatening to evict me because the rent is not paid. I
cannot tell Southern Bell Telephone Company any longer to
let me use their telephones because their telephone bill is
not paid. I cannot give the same quality of service Ms.
Gallogly just presented on her trade mission to Hong Kong
because she had staff funds to pay. I can't present that
quality of information to you, because I have no money to
pay any salaries. I can no longer run my automobile up and
down the road out of my pocket to give a service because I
cannot get money to buy gas. What are we supposed to do?
Mr. Dawkins:
Good question! Somebody over there.
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Mr. Carollo: Mr. Manager?
j Mr. Pereira: You know, the option that we have is until we
cone back with the final recommendation, is to pick up the
cost of the staff until the 23rd so that would be
operational and I am willing to do that, Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Ferre: I think that is a very wise ... in other
words, Charlotte, I think what the Manager is saying as I
understood it is that we are going to keep them alive,
because there is no use going through all this process if in
the interim they die!
Mr. Pereira: But, understood, Mr. Mayer, that is is for the
operational cost, okay, Mr. Gibbons? You know, this is so
on the 23rd you don't come back here and say that I promised
to fund you for next year. This is for operational costs
until the 23rd.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Manager, we all understand the King's
English and we heard very clearly what was said. Mrs.
Gibson, we are always honored to have you here. Are you
interested in saying something?
Mrs. Gibson: Mr. Mayor, I happen to be on this board, and
we have had so much problems in trying to keep this thing
going and with the kind of work that that board has done and
that is past - it really needs the funding, and we have just
one person that we need to pay $8,000 that made some
brochures and that kind of thing for us. It is about to go
out of business and they are ready to take us to court for
that money and I just believe that not only do we need money
for rent, and telephone and the payment of two staff
persons, but we need to get ...
Mayor Ferre: Mrs. Gibson, now we are going beyond - you
see, what the Manager has said, and I think we all
understood very clearly, is that he will assume the
responsibility of making sure that this operation is alive
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on May 23rd and the decision with regards to your $8,000
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with once we have an audit and the proper information in our
hands. Hopefully that will be by May 23rd. Now, I think
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that we have gotten into a happy solution temporarily andthat
the final solution, one way or the other, will not be
until the next meeting. All right, thank you. Mr. Manager,
do you need any action on this Commission to do this?
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Mr. Pereira: Not at this time, I think that we could ...
well , yes, we need a motion from you authorizing me to spend
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Mayor Ferre: All right, is there a motion to that effect?
Mr. Dawkins: Move it.
Mayor Ferre: The motion is to authorize the Manager at his
discretion to spend sufficient funds to keep this operation
alive through May 23rd until there is a conclusion and the
audit is finished and the Metropolitan Dade County people
have concluded their report. Is that ...?
Mr. Pereira: That is it totally.
Mayor Ferre: Is there a second?
Mr. Carollo: Second. W
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Maynr Ferre: All right, yes, Henry?
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Mr. Gibbons: Mr. Mayor, I must apologize to you and members
.` of this Commission for my ... I think you have known me
a probably longer than anyone on the Commission - you too,
Mr. Plummer, Mr. Dawkins. It is not rarely that I come here
to this Commission for anything. And it is very rarely that
W I come here with this kind of attitude, but I have been so
provoked to this point and I leave and I trust that when I
come back I can come back on a much friendly and a better
4 level that I understand.
Y Mayor Ferre: We understand, and thank you for your
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patience. Call the roll.
THEREUPON THE FOREGOING MOTION N0. 85-4679 duly
introduced by Commissioner Dawkins and seconded
} by Commissioner Carollo was passed and adopted by
the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
t Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
• Mayor Maurice A. Ferre.
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
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Mr. Pereira: Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Ferre: Yes.
Mr. Pereira: You know, I need Mr. Gibbons to meet with the
staff. I don't want to beat a dead horse, but I don't
appreciate you know, the statement of Mr. Gibbon that we are
trying to bully his organization; to the contrary, we are
trying to work with him, and I just want that on the record,
sir.
Mayor Ferre: All right, thank you.
Mr. Plummer: We will find that out by the next meeting.
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6. APPROVE IN PRINCIPLE REQUEST OF GREATER MIAMI OPERA FOR
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Mr. Carollo: If I can ask Mr. Herman to come up, please.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Bob Herman from our very great Greater
Miami Opera.
Mr. Carollo: Mr. Herman, if you could make your
presentation briefly to the Commission and the request that
you have all made.
Mr. Robert Herman: It is now 44 years that the Greater
Miami Opera has been serving the community of Miami. We are
the six largest in the entire country and a year ago I was
elected President of the national organization that
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represents operas throughout the country. We have brought
all of opera America down here for conventions twice in my
twelve years here. We are bringing them a third time this
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next fall - once in Key Biscayne, once in the City of Miami
and once in the City of Miami Beach, so we are, I believe,
raising the profile of Miami in a positive way throughout_
the country. Last year, in this same month I came before
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you and asked for your continued support, which has been
coming to the opera for many, many years in a very small
way, but a very important way. In that year since that
time, we have conducted - produced Pops By The Bay, three
concerts out at the Marine Stadium for a number of people.
We, for the first time in history, had that operation break
even. We would have had a substantial surplus if the Diane
Carroll performance had not been rained nut and we had to
refund a lot of money - that was number one. Number two, in
the fall we undertook a new $1,0000000 project in downtown
Miami. We did 30 performances at Gusman Cultural Center of
American Musical Theatre and brought 30 performances without
a single, negative incident occurring in Downtown Miami, so
we feel that was a major contribution to the rebirth of
downtown. We have done twelve performances in Dade County
Auditorium of Grand Opera and a number of rehearsals to
which we invite the handicapped community, free of charge.
We bring senior citizens and so forth and we have also
presented opera in every high school in the City of Miami
and in three of the junior high schools in Miami. We are
asking you to continue your support which we have had every
year for the last number of years in an amount that is less
than ... it is just slightly above one-half of one percent
of our total budget. Our budget is 5.2 million dollars and
we ask the City of Miami for less than we have received from
the City of Miami Beach, which gives $45,000; the Dade
County School Board, which gives $50,000; the State of
Florida, which this year gave us $140,000; and of course,
the National Endowment for the Arts. We urgently need this
continued support. We budgeted the services that we would
provide to the City and we counted on the continued support
of the City. We are not asking this for any single event, a
festival, or single activity. We are asking your continued
support of what I feel is the most important cultural
institution in the entire State of Florida, and I think that
is generally conceded. We are asking you to support us for
$35,000 for our fiscal year 1985 general operations.
Mr. Carollo: Mr. Manager, what is your recommendation?
Mr. Pereira: This
believe the proposal
and staff to review.
recommendation. I am
the process like we
appreciate it.
item was not for ennsideratinn. I
was submitted last week to my office
It would not be fair to make a
just asking if we can just put it to
have asked everybody else. I would
Mr. Carollo: Well, my understand is that he was put through
the process. Wasn't that ...?
Mr. Pereira: That is not my understanding, but that ... you
know.
Mayor Ferre: Let me intervene a little on this, by saying
this. This is not a festival. We are not talking about a
street festival, cultural festival, nr anything like that.
What we are talking about here, is a major institution that
is a solid foundation rock - not in Miami, but in the State
of Florida - it is the most important cultural institution
we have. It is the one thing that we have got going for us.
I want to tell you ... I just came back from San Antonio a
couple of weeks of ago and I have been talking to a lot of
people in the high tech industry, and one of the things that
they hold against coming to Miami, and I want to point out
to you that of the top ten states ... Mr. Traurig, future
Vice -President of the Chamber of Commerce of Greater Miami,
to be in October ... I want to tell you that the State of
Florida has the smallest growth of high technology of any of
major states of this nation - we've the seventh of the six
states, and we are tenth in high-tech, and we are not
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growing. We are not growing. Texas is growing, California
is growing, New Jersey is growing, everybody is growing, but
not Florida. The State of Florida, in the last five years
has decreased by eight percent ... __e��i,_h__tpercent, the
employment in high technology. It is £he only state that
has lost high technology, rather than gained. One of the
reasons is that they feel that we have very bad educational
facilities, with all due respects to F.I.U. and University
of Miami and the Board of Regents and the Legislature really
needs to address the issue and I think it is tragic to see
the Legislature is now cutting F.I.U.'s funding plan. We
went from nine to six, and they have got us down to
$2,200,000, which is absurd for this kind of a community!
The second thing that always comes out is the cultural
facilities in Florida. The one thing we have got going for
us, is this Opera Company - the Greater Miami Opera Company
and I don't think we can hesitate ... to me, this is as
important as building a high tech center in the medical
community. It is as important as building a park in
downtown, or Bayside. It is as important as building a
stadium or a coliseum. It is absolutely an essential part
of the fabric of what we are trying to build, and I think we
can't hesitate on this one, so Joe, if you ... I will
support you 100%.
Mr. Carollo: Mr. Mayor, I agree totally with your words and
what my intention is to have made a motion for the same
approval that we gave the previous year - $259000. Now, it
was my understanding from talking some of the individuals
involved, that the Manager had seen some of this information
and they had gone through the process.
Mayor Ferre: Well, why don't you pass the motion based on
their ...
Mr. Pereira: Is their request for ... I am sorry, Mr.
Mayor.
Mayor Ferre: I am just saying that I think the way we ought
to pass it is pass it in principle, and leaving it in the
Manager's final determination.
Mr. Carollo: Well, I have no problem passing it in
principle and I support this very much, but at the same time
I think that we have to stick by our rules and let
everything go through this process, otherwise what is going
to happen is that you know, we are going to have all kinds
of people coming back and doing the same thing that we are
trying to avoid.
Mayor Ferre: Make your motion.
Mr. Carollo: My motion, Mr. Mayor, in principle, after it
goes to the Manager and then comes back again to this
Commission, is that we approve a request of $25,000, as we
did the previous hear.
Mayor Ferre: Is there a second to that motion?
Mr. Perez: I don't have any doubt, Mr. Mayor, to second
this motion. I think that this is the kind of activity that
we have encourage and promote in this community. I am very
proud to second this motion without any doubt.
Mr. Plummer: What did you get from the T.D.C.?
Mr. Herman: $41,750. That was tourist room tax money,
Commissioner Plummer ..0 yes, sir.
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Mr. Plummer: Yes. You understand that 40% of that is
coming from the City of Miami?
Mr. Herman: I do understand that, yes sir. We did make
application a number of months ago, prior to the time that
Mr. Pereira was appointed to the City Managership and we
were turned down on the basis of the regular procedure. It
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was a resubmission that we made for the $359000 this last
week - just an there is no misunderstanding.
Mayor Ferre: We understand. The amount we gave you last
year was $25,000?
Mr. Herman: $25,000, correct, and then we introduced a new
$1,000,000 program this year, that is why we asked for the
$35,000 instead of $25,000.
Mayor Ferre: All right, there is a motion on the floor; it
has been seconded. Is there any further discussion on the
motion? All right, now call the roll, please.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner
Carollo, who moved its adoption:
MOTION NO. 85-464
A MOTION APPROVING IN PRINCIPLE A
REQUEST MADE BY ROBERT HERMAN, DIRECTOR
OF THE "GREATER MIAMI OPERA", FOR AN
AMOUNT OF $259000, SAID ALLOCATION
INTENDED AS A CONTRIBUTION TOWARDS THEIR
' GENERAL OPERATIONS BUDGET.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Perez, the motion
was passed and adopted by the following vote-
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AYES: Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice-Mayor Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Herman, before you leave, I am going to
give to you some information here, on the Teatro Lyrico of
Madrid which is the Opera Company of Madrid. They are very
anxious to come this year or next year and make a
presentation in Miami. I met with them two days ago - I
told them that I thought the only way that that was ... they
are going to bet a subsidy from Iberia. I told them that
they ... there is fifty of them in this, and I said if you
can get the Governor of Spain to pay for your fare over here
and back and provided ... I mean, we don't want to hear
Othello, which they have on their repertoire - La Traviata,
and so on, but they do have, evidently, antologia of Spanish
music - operatic Spanish music, and I thought that might be
something that would be very popular in this community. I
told them that I didn't think they could do this alone, that
they really needed to do this in conjunction with both you
and Gratelli. This is the only copy of the program that I
have. I would be very grateful if you would look at and
talk to the individuals, Bob, and let us know if there is
any ... those are the only copies that I have. Thank you.
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1, APPROVE REQUEST OP DOMINICAN CULTURE AND NENITAGE GROUP
JOSE MARTI PARK CELEBNATION NESTAUNACION DE LA REPUBLICA
DOMINICANA.
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Mayor Ferre: Next pocket item?
Mr. Carollo: Okay, Mr. Mayor, if I may ask Dr. Narcida to
come up please. She has requested and it is my understand
has gone through the Manager's office already. It is the
Dominica Association.
Mayor Ferre: What is the request for?
Mr. Carollo: She is going to explain it, Mr. Mayor.
Dr. Narcida: The Dominican Association is a U.S.A. of
Florida incorporated as non-profit organization, founded in
1982 for the purpose of providing and assisting and
preserving the Dominican culture and heritage and uniting
the thousands of Dominicans residing and living in the area
of Greater Miami and Dade County. We hereby come before you
to request the use of the Jose Marti Park located on 4th
Street S.W., and 4th Avenue for the celebration of the 122nd
anniversary of the Restauracion de la Republica Dominicana.
All of the Dominican community will unite in the celebration
of a servant of this historic date by the celebration of the
Grand Festival Cultural Dominicana Americano, jointly with
members of the Hispanic Community. The tentative program -
we wish to celebrate the festival from 12:00 P.M. to 10:00
P.M. at the Jose Marti Park and facilitate the use of the
facility of same, subject to the issuance of all required
permits and allowing the sale of beer and soft drinks, the
issuance of the permits by the Department of Police, Fire
Rescue and Inspection Services, establishing the area,
prohibited to retail peddlers during the period of the
festival celebration; further authorizing the City Manager
to execute the August 18, 1985 festival concession agreement
with this herein stated organization, subject to the
approval of the City Attorney. The queen of the Dominican
Festival will come together with the City official the
ribbon starting festival, the program - Christopher Columbus
discovered the island in 1492. the ballet Cultural
Dominicana will present a drama Cologne directed by Victor
Alva; Ballet Folklorico Dominicana from Santo Domingo;
Dominican Orchestra from Santo Domingo; the sale of arts and
crafts from Santo Domingo, sale of Dominican beer,
Presidente, an Indian drink, and sale of Dominican food.
We request the City's assistance in waivering the cost of
the police protection during the festival and cleaning up
after the festival celebration.
Mayor Ferre: All right, any questions of Ms. Jacobs
Mr. Carollo: Mr. Manager, you have had ample time to go
over this request - if I could have your recommendation of
this before I make a motion.
Mr. Pereira: We have absolutely no problems with the
festival being conducted at the park. We are prepared to
work with the organization. The only issue that I have is
their request of waiving the cost of police protection and
cleanups, so on and so forth. That, I still don't have the
figures. I want to further, you know, research that and
work with them to see what kind of agreement arrangement we
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can have, but certainly there is no problem with the usage
of the park and we will recommend it - you know, we approve
it.
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Mr. Carollo: Mr. Manager, let me ... how much do you
estimate it will cost for the police protection and
garbage = do you have any idea? ... a rough estimate?
Mr. Pereira: A rough estimate - you are talking about
$59000, when you put fire rescue, cleanup and the police.
That is a guess-timate now, because we need some more
details from them on actual activities, so on and so forth.
There could be a combination of things.
Mr. Carollo: There is probably a high estimate at that -
based on what they are going to do here, I would say. I
will make a motion at this time that the Commission approves
the request, including the reimbursement for the police
protection and the cleanup that is needed, not to exceed
$5,000.
Mayor Ferre: Is there a second?
Mr. Perez: All right, now under discussion, let me just
make sure that we ... there are only two things I want to
make sure of. This is in no way political.
Dr. Nelsida Chakoff: No.
Mayor Ferre: In other words, we are not going to have
either Mr. or anybody else involved in any of
these ...
Dr. Nelsida Chakoff: No, as I stated, the Dominican
Association is just ...
Mayor Ferre: Non -political.
Dr. Nelsida Chakoff: Non -political.
Mayor Ferre: Non -political, okay. Second thing I wanted to
ask you is - this has the approval, I assume ... you are not
a rival group to the Dominical Chamber of Commerce and the
Dominican Consul here?
Dr. Nelsida Chakoff: What is your question, sir?
Mayor Ferre: You are not a rival group to the Dominican
Chamber of Commerce are you?
Dr. Nelsida Chakoff: No, we are not. The Dominican Chamber
of Commerce worked with .... commerce, and we are with that
community.
Mayor Ferre: They will be working with you?
Dr. Nelsida Chakoff: With us.
Mayor Ferre: Okay, and this has the ... you have talked to
the Consul General of the Dominican Republic and he knows
that you are going to do this?
Dr. Nelsida Chakoff: Yes.
Mayor Ferre: Okay, I just want to put this on the record
that there is no problems between ...
Dr. Nelsida Chakoff: No, there is no
Mayor Ferre: Okay, that is all I wanted to know.
questions? All right, call the roll.
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The fallowing motion was introduced by Commissioner
Carollo, who moved its adoption:
MOTION NO. 85=465
A MOTION APPROVING A REQUEST MADE BY
REPRESENTATIVES OF THE "DOMINICAN
CULTURE AND HERITAGE GROUP" FOR USE OF
THE JOSE MARTI PARK IN CONNECTION WITH
THE 122ND ANNIVERSARY CELEBRATION OF THE
"RESTAURACION DE LA REPUBLICA
DOMINICANA" IN OBSERVANCE OF THAT
HISTORIC DAY; FURTHER GRANTING ALL
MISCELLANEOUS REQUESTS MADE BY SAID
GROUP IN CONNECTION THEREWITH; AND
FURTHER AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO
ALLOCATE AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $5,000
FOR POLICE SERVICES AND SOLID WASTE
SERVICES.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Perez, the motion
was passed and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
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8. FILE LAWSUIT AGAINST SANTA MONICA, CALIFORNIA, POLICE
CHIEF, ETC. REGARDING SENDING OF CRIMINAL TO MIAMI;
REQUESTING FEDERAL LEGISLATION, INJUNCTION ACTION, ETC.
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Mr. Carollo: Mr. Mayor, I have sent made several requests
in the last week of both the City Attorney and the City
Manager regarding of the actions of the City of Santa Monica
and their Police Chief, James King, in sending to Miami some
of their human waste of that City. I am sure that the Mayor
has been briefed even while you were away what has
transpired with that situation. I think, Mr. Mayor, that we
have several options that we should look at and discuss
today. One, of course, is the filing of a lawsuit against
the City of Santa Monica to get reimbursed for the expenses
that we incurred in this; secondly, there is a possibility
of an injunction, not only so that the City of Santa Monica
would not do this ever again, but to set a precedent to
other cities, whosoever would try to attempt this, that we
would stand firm against it. Lastly, there is a strong
Possibility that there were violations of civil rights,
which would then bring it into Federal hands. This
individual that they sent to us has a very long history of
mental illness, is probably not capable of making up his own
mind on whether he would come here or not. He has stated to
the local press that he was forced to come here. If in fact
that was the case that he was forced to come here, not only
would there be a violation of civil rights, but even the
possibility of kidnapping, so I think we need to look at all
these areas including requesting from our four Congressmen
of the area, and our two U. S. Senators to implement, or
start the process of implementing some Federal regulations
to make it a Federal crime to have one state send their
criminals to another in the fashion that has just occurred
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to us. Madam City Attorney, what recommendations do you
have at this point in time in the additional research that
you have made?
Mrs. Dougherty: Vice -Mayer Carollo, I distributed the
opinion that I wrote to you at your request to all of the
Commissioners and basically what I have found is that if you
wanted to institute a lawsuit, what I would suggest we do is
we institute a lawsuit here in the City of Miami in the
State court and it had three counts: one, a Declaratory
Judgment - this is the legal thing to do; secondly an
injunction; and thirdly, damages. I have to tell you I
would be less than candid to tell you that there weren't
some technical problems that could be associated with this
kind of case, not the least of which is if we filed it in
State court, they may remove it to Federal court and if it
is in Federal court the jurisdiction is going to be in
California, so if we wanted to institute suit, we are going
to have the face the fact that may have to either pay for
counsel to go to California, or hire California counsel.
Secondly, if the ... there are other kinds of technical
problems that can be raised, not the least of which is
immunity - California may have laws that are different than
ours. We would not essentially be alleging that this was a
negligent act, but instead, an intentional tort and bad
faith on behalf of the Chief, and therefore the City ought
to be liable and of course, the Chief personally liable. We
base our jurisdiction in the State courts based on the long
arm statute, which essentially says that if a tort is
committed anywhere, but the injury is here in the State of
Florida, then we think the State courts in Florida has
jurisdiction, but again, as I might say, both immunity and
jurisdiction must be a technical problem that we would have
to overcome, but if that is something that you would want to
do, I think it would be a meritnry suit and we can try it.
Mayor Ferre: All right ...
Mr. Carollo: To my colleagues ...
Mayor Ferre: I'd like to express an opinion.
Mr. Carollo: Go ahead, Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Ferre: I am looking for, and I :misplaced the file,
but I would like to remind the Commission that back in, I
think it was April of last year, a series of people that had
clear mental problems were in jail and had come to the State
of Florida and shipped by respective local communities and
these were Mariel refugees that had been taken out of mental
institutions in different parts of the country, and there
were three cases in particular that were clearly documented
and I want to remind the Commission that the State of
Florida was in an uproar about that and that the Governor
himself personally got involved by taking a strong position.
Now, if we don't stand up and set an example, it is my
opinion that we are destined to have this repeated over and
over and over again.
Mr. Carollo: My exact point, Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Ferre: I know, and I am agreeing with you. What I am
saying is, that it is now time for us to set a firm example.
I don't care what it cost. I don't care how we are going to
deal with it, as long as it is within the law, but I think
we need to tell the people, whether they be Police Chiefs,
or Governors, or Mayors or City Managers, or people that are
making these decisions that they cannot with impunity, take
an individual who is a rapist, or has a mental problem or a
criminal record and just ship them to Miami, Florida. That
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is not acceptable. Now, I think that we need to go the full
length, if we have to, and I think what we need to do is
pass a resolution authorizing the City Attorney and the
Manager to institute immediately in the following order
first of all, a vehement, strong protest to the City of
Santa Monica for what I think at best can be classified as a
strong breech of common civic courtesy and at worse could be
a criminal act in itself. I think secondly, I would like on
the motion that you make, Commissioner, that you instruct
the City Manager to write the Association ►+f City Managers
(I.C.M.A.) protesting this act by the City of Santa Monica,
which has a City Manager form of government and let them
officially notify other cities that this has been done;
three, that the Clerk also send a copy of this resolution to
the Conference of Mayors and the League of The Cities,
asking that they put this item on the agenda for discussion
at the next national meeting. The Conference of Mayors will
be meeting in Anchorage, Alaska in June and the League of
Cities will be meeting sometime in the summer and this is
something that they should have a strong position on. Then,
I think we need to, as you stated, Mrs. Dougherty, include
in the resolution a legal posture which would begin with ...
would you rephrase that again - repeat that?
Mrs. Dougherty: Filing the lawsuit here in State court?
Mayor Ferre: No, no.
Mrs. Dougherty: No?
Mayor Ferre: No, no. That is the more drastic
am going to get to in a moment. You said that
write a ... you said there were several steps that
to take. What was the first step?
in which I
we need to
we needed
'I Mrs. Dougherty: Declaratory Judgment, Injunction, Damages.
Mayor Ferre: Injunction, okay ... that first of all, we ask
for an Injunction to prohibit the City of Santa Monica from
doing this again and secondly, that you be instructed
legally to - if you feel comfortable with this, institute a
,f lawsuit for punitive damages against the City of Santa
y= Monica. This certainly, if nothing else, is going to make
national news that we ... the City already has made it, but
it will do it again, that the City of Miami is going to sue
the City of Santa Monica, either individually, or sue the
Police Chief, if it is his ...
.y Mr. Carollo: Or both - or we sue both!
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Mayor Ferre: Or botht So that we certainly are going to
r. use ... we are going to pursue them and use them as an
example so that this will not repeat itself. If there were
the first time that this had occurred, it would be bad
_;. enough. The fact is, that this is about the fourth or the
fifth time that we can legally document that another
government has decided that they would pay for somebody to
come down here and just dump them in this City and that is
just simply not acceptable!
Mr. Carollo: Well, Mr. Mayor, you have included everything
that we had discussed with the Manager and the City
+` Attorney. I am glad that we have a unanimous opinion of
what I am seeing from this Commission. What happened in
this case, Mr. Mayor, I think is the worse example of any
that we have seen of any state or any city dumping their
human waste on another. This individual not only had a
s= mental history, but at the same time, had a long criminal
history of sexual crimes, including the raping of women, and
the sexual abuse of young children! And even had been
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arrested for the murder of a young woman and was only
released because of insufficient evidence! So, you put this
all together and this individual is an extremely dangerous
person. Just the fact that they had placed him in an
airplane to send him across the United States is a very
dangerous act in itself. Who knows what a but like this,
with a history that even includes murder might have decided
to have done while he was up in the air in a plane? I think
that the actions of the Police Chief of Santa Monica is one
of the most irresponsible actions that I have seen of any
law enforcement officer in this country and I think that if
this City and this community does not take a stand now, we
are going to suffer worse consequences and much more
expenses in the future than we can even imagine now. Maybe
Chief King did this as a practical joke - he thought it
would be something funny that while he would then go to the
beer hall, he could talk about it and laugh about it. I
don't think it is something that is very laughable at allt
I think it is something that is very sad and very dangerous
and I think that this individual's civil rights were
probably violated, which is a Federal crime, and Mr.
Manager, one of the things that we have to do is to have
Police Department interview this individual, get statements
from him to try to ascertain those facts to see if there was
a violation of Federal law, which if there was, than we
would have to request of the F.B.I. to intervene in this -
at the same time that kidnapping could possible be construed
if this individual is forced in a plane and forcibly told
that he had to leave the State of California. Of course,
4 t,nee e��fernent_c in rzi i fnrnia had been that he wanted to go
to Miami. His statements to the local press down here are
quite different than that. Mr. Mayor, I am going to try to
incorporate all of this in one resolution. The first course
of action that we would immediately take, as described
.in court to prevent the City of Santa Monica and their
Police Department from doing this again. Thirdly, that the
City Manager makes the strongest protest that he possibly
can to Association of City Managers, places this issue in
their next possible agenda and at the same time, the same
with the Conference of Mayors and the League of Cities and
request that they place this issue in their next available
agenda for discussion. And last, but not least that we
request of our four Congressman and two United State
Senators that they begin the process of implementing federal
regulations, because this is what is needed, federal
regulations to prevent one state from dumping their human
waste into another and I so move this resolution Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Ferre: All right, is there a second? Further
discussion, call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner
Carollo, who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 85-466
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY
ATTORNEY TO INITIATE LEGAL PROCEEDINGS
IN THE COURTS OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA
AGAINST THE CITY OF SANTA MONICA,
CALIFORNIA, AND THE POLICE CHIEF OF SAID
CITY FOR HAVING CAUSED WESTON HILL, A
KNOWN SEX OFFENDER, TO BE SENT TO MIAMI,
FLORIDA, AND TO PURSUE SUCH PROCEEDINGS
IF THEY ARE REMOVED TO THE FEDERAL
COURTS WITH THE INCLUSION IN SAID
PROCEEDINGS OF A PETITION FOR INJUNCTIVE
RELIEF AGAINST THE CITY OF SANTA MONICA,
CALIFORNIA, AND ITS POLICE DEPARTMENT TO
PREVENT SAID CITY FROM REPEATING ACTIONS
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OF THIS TYPE IN THE FUTURE: REQUESTING
i THE CITY MANAGER TO LODGE FORMAL
PROTESTS AND COMPLAINTS CONCERNING THE
CONDUCT OF SANTA MONICA OFFICIALS WITH
THE CONFERENCE OF MAYORS, THE
INTERNATIONAL CITY MANAGERS ASSOCIATION,
AND THE LEAGUE OF CITIES REQUESTING
THOSE ORGANIZATIONS PLACE SUCH PROTESTS
ON THEIR NEXT POSSIBLE MEETING AGENDA;
FURTHER REQUESTING THE FLORIDA
CONGRESSIONAL DELEGATION TO HAVE FEDERAL
REGULATIONS IMPLEMENTED WHICH WILL
PROHIBIT GOVERNMENTAL ENTITIES OF ONE
STATE FROM SENDING KNOWN OFFENDERS OR
INDIVIDUALS WITH KNOWN UNDESIRABLE
PROPENSITIES TO ANOTHER STATE; AND
DIRECTING THE CITY CLERK TO SEND A COPY
OF THIS RESOLUTION TO EACH MEMBER OF THE
FLORIDA CONGRESSIONAL DELEGATION,
INCLUDING SENATOR CHILES AND SENATOR
HAWKINS.
(Here follows body of resolution,
omitted here and on file in the Office
of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Perez, the
resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
Mayor Ferre: All right, Commissioner.
Mr. Dawkins: Mr. Mayor, I have... Mrs. Anne Marie Adker
will you come to the mike please.
Mayor Ferre: Excuse me, Miller, I wanted to read into the
record Joe, before you leave... Yes. I'm talking about
April 23, 1985, Miami Herald, "Refugees deported Dade
officials say and here is Merritt Stierheim complaining
officially to the States that Mr. Brunett was sent here,
fifty-four dollars was paid for expenses and Mr. Robert
Bernal an Assistant Administrator to Stierheim said that
refugees were being sent to Dade County because of the
County's criminal justice council had the only facility in
the County to specialize in the care and resettlement of
troubled Cubans. Sergio Leon, 22, arrived at the intake
center and he was dumped in Miami. A Deputy Sheriff
escorted him all the way to Miami from New Jersey. Several
months after Leon was placed in the New Horizon's Half Way
House where he was free to come and go and then he raped a
five year old boy who lived a block away. On Thursday, ---
this is April 23, 1985--- he was sentenced to a life
imprisonment. A mariel refugee from Texas also ended up at
Dade's intake center who is... who Mr. Bernal said Mr. Diego
Perez Armides was mentally impaired. Mr. Diego Perez
Armides had been sent to us from Dallas and they just simply
shipped him in here. So, there is ample... this has
happened before and the reason it's happened again is
because with all due respects to the Governor and to Merritt
Stierheim and Metropolitan Dade County and Sergio to you,
because you were over there then is you guys didn't take any
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action and if you... I think this time we need to take some
strong action and hopefully, we will do an. I just wanted
to put this into the record?
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9. DISCUSSION ITEN: PERSONAL. APPEARANCE OF ANNE MARIE
ADKER REGARDING FIRST SOURCE AGREEMENT OF MINORITY
PROCUREMENT ORDINANCE.
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Mr. Dawkins: Go ahead, Mrs. Adker.
Ms. Anne Marie Adker: I'm Anne Marie Adker, 407 Northwest
5th Street. I came down here to ask about the status of the
first source agreement that was supposed to come under the
minority procurement ordinance, only to find that it died
for the lack of support. I don't know who was really
responsible for putting this first source agreement
together. However, I can tell you that it's very much
needed in Overtown. Especially, when there are people being
funded with city monies in projects in Overtown and we have
no stipulations in those contracts that say they must hire
Blacks. When I look back and see that we supported the
Commission and the Mayor, supported a program a quite a
number of years ago under the jobs program that graduated or
certified ninety-six people, that came under the carpentry,
masonry and painting program and now they are sitting idly
back watching projects like the 1611 Northwest 3rd Avenue
that received funds through Community Development and they
are bringing their own help. I can't understand why we
haven't gotten this first source agreement under that
minority procurement ordinance.
Mr. Dawkins: Let me see if I can help you Mrs. Adker and
what I don't say the Manager will fill in. We... in fact
the City of Miami initiated the working for the first source
agreement, then we sat down with... what is it PIC or
whatever it is. PIC and we attempted to negotiate with them
how to implement the first source agreement and it got to
the place where PIC wanted to dictate to the City of Miami
that it would hire people State--- I mean, County wide.
They did not want to accept the fact that if we used City
funds that they would have to employ the target area
residents. So, PIC said No, we are not operating like that
and the City of Miami said well, we have to operate like
that if we are going to have City funds and at that point
all negotiations broke down until PIC decides to come back.
But now what you are saying is that you want this Commission
and this administration if we can't work out something with
PIC, that we must do something on our own. Is that what I
hear you saying?
Ms. Adker: Just a minute. Do you know the percentage of
unemployed in Overtown?
Mr. Dawkins: Who are you asking, them or me?
Ms. Adker: Well, may be you can relay it to them.
Mr. Dawkins: Thank you.
Ms. Adker: And listen we cannot afford to wait until PIC or
anybody else makes up their time when these projects are
using federal funds, whether they come through the City or
whatever and that's taxpayers dollars... No, we can't afford
to wait. I am here to ask for stipulations in all contracts
done with whether it's local government or federal funds.
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Mr. Dawkins: Well, I just asked you if that's what you
wanted us to do?
Ms. Adker: Yes, sir.
Mr. Dawkins: Ok. Mr. Manager, since we have tried to work
with PIC and PIC don't seem to be able to understand our
dilemma, what's our next step, sir?
Mr. Pereira: My understanding and I just reviewed early
this week a first source agreement and I had some questions
that I raised to staff. I think we will be prepared and
it's my understanding that it's a committee and this
happened before I came to the City of Miami, my
understanding that there was a committee established in
order to work with PIC and that one of the questions... one
of the big items was the fact that PIC as you sn clearly
stated will not allow us to... would not go along with us in
hiring people from the City of Miami. My understanding...
exclusively from the City of Miami. My understanding is
that the agreement that we had worked out or at least that
we have now on paper and that we will bring to you is that
the first preference will be for residents of the City of
Miami who are in that program. If we cannot find a person
that meets, you know, whatever the job description or
qualifications are then they can open it, up to the larger
pool individuals in the program which certainly goes beyond
the geographic limits of the City of Miami. But there are a
couple of other questions that need to be resolved before I
bring it to the board.
Ms. Adker: Just a minute.
Mr. Dawkins: Hold it, let him finish. Give him the
courtesy to finish Mrs. Adker.
Mayor Ferre: Go ahead Commissioner.
Mr. Pereira: We will be ready to bring it at the last
meeting in May. I mean, at our next Commission meeting.
Mayor Ferre: But Mr. Manager, it has come to my attention
that once again, whether it was the previous format before
PIC, which is the consortium and now with PIC, that we are
not getting a fair shake. We the people who live within the
boundaries of the City of Miami that belong to both the
citizens of the City of Miami and citizens of Metropolitan
Dade County. Now, I further understand that there are
vacancies on the board that we should be recommending and
that those vacancies have not been filled. So, I would like
to ask you that for the next meeting we get a full report
from the administration and from those members of PIC that
we appointed to the board. I know Skip Chavitach is one of
them and think we appointed two or three. You appointed
one. Who was it we appointed? Well, whoever it is that the
City of Miami appointed and I saw Skip Chavitch here this
morning and I know he is one of them. We need to know
exactly what's going on. Where do we stand? What their
opinion is of how we have been dealt with and also, deal
with whatever vacancies there are that we need to fill.
Mr. Dawkins: Mr. Manager and if I'm in error Mrs. Adker,
correct me. What I hear Mrs. Adker saying is we are now
into the development stages and the construction of Overtown
Park West. We have companies coming in now that will be
building and doing construction work in the Overtown area
with Federal and City dollars and what she is saying is it's
time that those individuals in that area get employment. Am
I correct so far?
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Ms. Adker: That is correct and I don't see what the problem
Is. You have a City of Miami jobs programs in there.
Mr. Dawkins: Ok. Now, what I'm going to say is this. I am
constantly the one who threatens to stop the Overtown/Park
West Development. Now, if the things that Mrs. Adker is
alluding to are not addressed, then I have no other
alternative sir, but to ask that there is a continuance and
that all work be stopped until these sort of problems that
we have are addressed. Go ahead, Commissioner Plummer.
Mr. Plummer: Let me ask this question. We are talking
about, I think from what I hear, we are talking about two
separate entities. One,...
Ms. Adker: No.
Mr. Plummer: Yes, we are. Now, let me finish. One is the
hiring of people who are already qualified to do the work.
That's what I think you are asking for. That the priority
be given to those people in the area who do have knowledge
on a skill job or on training and second portion what you
are asking is as I understand it is that people in Overtown
be given priority for OJT. There is a big difference.
Because I want to sadly remind this Commission, Commissioner
Dawkins, that pretty soon the truth is going to have to be
told, that this City took unto itself last year from PIC a
great amount of money to do our own in house OJT and it has
fallen flat on it's face and as such this Commission is
going to be responsible for reimbursing the federal
government for dollars that were not properly used. Now,
that going to be coming out pretty quick. So, I see it as
two things. One, if you put a person to training I think
that is what, twenty-six weeks? Up to twenty-six weeks?
Maximum. That's not what you are really looking for. You
are looking for the utilization of those people in the
Overtown area where the construction is going on to be given
job and that's a big difference between going through PIC.
I don't think you have to go through PIC to do that. I
think that you can make it as part of the Community
Development issuing of grants that the first preference be
given to people that live in the locale. If you want to
address the other problem, the other job of training, well,
I beg you to start helping the City of Miami, because we
haven't done a damn thing, well, excuse me let me qualify
that. Our track record has not been good of handling in
house OJT.
Mr. Dawkins: Let the records reflect that Commission
Plummer is correct. Let the records also show that if you
will check back and read the minutes that the former City
Manager Howard Gary, professionally advised us not to accept
that money and that we sat here and said that we can no way
turn all this money back to the government and he said all
right, you are going to have to repay the government. But I
think that... I don't know about Mrs. Adker, but the people
I'm talking about is the ones who take a wheel barrow, a
shovel and do pure labor work. You don't need no training
for laborers.
Ms. Adker: That's right.
Mr. Dawkins: See, so, I'm talking about laborers going to
work with the demolition, with a shovel, a pick and what
have you. Those individuals do not have to go to PIC to get
any training whatsoever.
Ms. Adker: That's right.
Mr. Pereira: Commissioner, if I might.
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Mr. Dawkins:
Yes, Mr. Manager.
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Mr. Pereira: And I would have to..,, you know, 1 know the
percentages, but my recollection is that the Overtown Park
West Project has a very clearly defined, you know, policy on
hiring, residency hiring so on and an forth. You know, it's
nothing that we have not addressed in the proposals and
that's just part, you know, it's part of the commitment of
any developer that comes in and a pretty stringent, you
know, guidelines to cover that. So,..s and again, I don't
recall the exact percentages, but it is there. It is part
of the... whatever agreement we, you know, we enter with any
developer there is a high number of residency requirement
and also, minority contractor participation so on and so
forth. So, it's not something that we have ignored in that
process.
Mr. Dawkins: All Mrs. Adker is saying is that on I-95 we
had the same legislation. No, jobs. On Metrorail we had
the same guidelines. No, jobs. On the People Mover we had
the same regulations and no jobs. So, what Mrs. Adker is
saying, yes, we have regulations. We have stipulations, but
still we have no jobs. So, what she is saying to us is damn
the regulations. What she is interested in is the end
product.
Ms. Adker: That's right and the City Manager is right. The
County stipulated for the UMPTA area....
Mr. Dawkins: Mrs. Adker, may I do this?
Ms. Adker: I'm talking about the whole of Overtown.
Mr. Dawkins: Ok. All right, we all know that. May I do
this? May I work with the Manager and get back to you with
something, then if you are not satisfied I will bring... we
will come back at the next meeting with this. I will work
with him and then get with you to see what we are doing and
if not, then we bring it back at the next Commission
meeting.
Ms. Adker: You expect me to take that back to those folk
under the tree?
Mr. Dawkins: No, Ma'am, I'm going under the tree with you.
That's who going to vote for me, the people under the tree.
Ms. Adker: All right.
Mr. Dawkins: All right, Ma'am. Ok. Thank you.
Ms. Adker: Thank you.
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10. DISCUSSION: APARTHEID POLICIES OF SOUTH AFRICA H.T.
SMITH REGARDING MISS UNIVERSE ETC.
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Mr. Dawkins: H. T. Smith. Come in Mr. Smith, sir.
Mayor Ferre: Go ahead Mr. Smith.
Mr. H. T. Smith: Good morning, Mr. Mayor, members of the
Commission. My first opportunity to address our new City
Manager. I'm pleased to do so and City Attorney. I'm here
today again, on behalf of the coalition for a free South
Africa and the people of this community, first of all, to
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let you know that we are pleased with the actions that the
City Commission has taken in the past with regard to
resolutions that you have passed supporting our efforts
with regard to the Grand Prix. A lot of the people in this
community do not know that the City Commission unanimously
passed a resolution requesting that South Africa not be
represented in the Grand Prix and we avoided what could have
been bad publicity for the City and I think we did the right
thing. A lot of people also, don't know that the City
Commission has passed a divestment ordinance in only one of
two municipalities in Dade County to do so along with Opa-
Locka and I hope that it would be a model for other
municipalities in this community and you to be commended for
that.
Mayor Ferre: And it wasn't a five year divestiture
either,...
Mr. Smith: It was a two year divestiture.
Mayor Ferre: Like California and other places you are
talking about.
Mr. Smith: Yes, and the City Commission should be commended
for that. Thirdly, a lot of people in this community don't
know that the City Commission has already passed a
resolution requesting that South Africa not be allowed to
participate in the Miss Universe Pageant. Unfortunately,
not withstanding the good will of the Commission and not
withstanding the international outcry, the Miss Universe
Pageant, Inc. seems to be adamant in it's demand that we
glamourize apartheid with the participation of a
representative from South Africa. That we subsides
apartheid with our two hundred fifty thousand dollars in tax
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money that's put into the pageant.
Mayor Ferre: More than that. A half a million.
Mr. Smith: Much more than that when you look at in -kind
services and the man hours that the staff provides and that
we really legitimize apartheid by rolling out the red carpet
for Miss South Africa who will be participating. Let me say
this, I was very very proud of what happened in terms of the
national and international out cry concerning the
President's visit to Bitburg and we have heard a lot about
that. The symbolism of Bitburg was wrong and as a veteran
of war I agree with that. I do not think that Miss Nazi
Germany should be allowed to participate. I do not think
that Miss Castro Cuba should be allowed to participate and I
certainly do not think that Miss South Africa should be
allowed to participate. If the symbolism of the President
going to Bitburg is wrong, then the symbolism that we are
getting from Johannesburg is equally wrong. We must judge
human rights by one yard stick and I suggest to you that to
allow Miss South Africa to participate in the Miss Universe
Pageant is putting this community on an unnecessary
collision course. The Miss Universe Pageant is one of
the... in terms of the publicity of the City, in terms of
revenues, etc., I think it's something that the City should
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be commended for for attracting. The Mayor appointed me
along with others to help negotiate the contract with the
Miss Universe Pageant and I think the City got a good deal,
but this whole process can be forever damaged in the
atmosphere that we have here today if Miss South Africa
participate. I assure you that if Miss South Africa parades
as this commercial say, I think it was a commercial for an
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airlines, "We really move our tails for you". If she
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intends to do that in Miami this year, I suggest to you that
it cannot do anything, but in inevitably lead to a national
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focus on Miami, by TransAfrica, by the Coalition. We are
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going to ask my good friend Ray
Fauntroy with
the Free South
Africa movement to join us in
protesting this. We don't
=`
need this for our community.
We are hopeful
that the City
Commission will go beyond its resolution
and in its
strongest possible terms let
the Miss Universe Pageant
Incorporated know that they are
risking the
subsidizing of
tax dollars, if they continue
to insist on
allowing Miss
South Africa to participate.
Mr. Dawkins: What you want us
to do?
Mr. Smith: We are asking the City Commission to do the
following at this time. To communicate in writing with the
Miss Universe Pageant that in addition to passing the
resolution the City Commission... I want to use the proper
words...
Mayor Ferre: See fortunately, you are a lawyer and
that's...
Mr. Smith: The threat... yes, and I know about contracts.
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Contracts was one of my better subjects.
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Mayor Ferre: Tell us... Is that the one you got a good
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grade on?
Mr. Smith: I got a pretty good grade in that one, yes. I
understand contracts. That the...
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Mr. Dawkins: Let me see if I can help you while you are
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thinking. Mr. Manager through you to Mr. Odio, can I ask
him what we have done to ensure that South Africa hasn't
my
come, through you, sir please.
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Mr. Odin: Commissioner, I have met with the Miss Universe
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people in New York about a month ago and addressed them with
the concern of the City Commission. I met... well, besides
that I followed with a very strong worded letter that I
I
think the Mayor read about two weeks ago here. am going
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to meet with them Saturday in Lakeland and again, try to
convince them that they should not bring Miss South Africa
here if possible. They have not replied by the way to our
request in New York as of now. There is a change in
management and the new president had asked for time for him
to address the president of Paramount Pictures with this
problem. I sent him a certified letter following up my
letting requesting that an answer must come forth. The
result of that is that I'm meeting with him Saturday in
Lakeland.
Mr. Smith: Let me tell you what I'm concerned about when
you reply.
Mayor Ferre: H. T. let me add just two phrases to this and
then may be you might have an answer for us. You and I had
lunch about a month ago, may be it was five, six weeks ago.
After that the very following day we had a Commission
meeting and I did exactly what I told you I was going to do
and the resolutions, I will be happy to get them to you from
the Clerk.
Mr. Smith: I have a copy Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Ferre: All right, now that was the direct results of
our meeting. Now, I noticed here from Bennett Cert a letter =-
dealing with my position and our position, because we all
voted on it with both the Prince Concert and Mother Mary
Ignatiius or whatever the name of that. Remember that in...
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those are offensive
things to some of us and not so
to
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others, but
since we
have a major catholic population in
the
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City....Just
like Boston and the Mayor of Boston went
out
and picketed
himself
on Mother Mary Ignatius tells it all
is.
the name of
the play.
We presented our protest. Now,
the
press went
wild
on this and there was a
big
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misunderstanding. We
didn't band Mother Ignatius We didn't
band Prince. We can't tell Prince not to come here. That's
a public facility. If he pays the bill, the promoters, they
got a right for Prince to sing. I don't care what he does
or what he stands for and the same thing goes for Mother
Ignatius Now, I want to tell you and I have in the past and
I repeat it again publicly and Roy, 1 want you to listen to
this. 1 am with you one hundred per cent and 1 think this
Commission is with you in spirit and in action. Apartheid
is every bit as bad as Nazism. When people are tortured or
killed or thrown in jail and kept incomunicado it doesn't
matter whether they are White or Black, whether they are
Jews or Christians, whether it happens in the prisons of
Fidel Castro or it happens in the prisons of Pinochet,
Chile. There is a substantial difference. I realize that a
lot of people say that one cannot compare what happens in
Chile with what happens in Cuban. Other say that you can't
compare what happens in Cuban with what's happening in South
Africa or that the Jews say that you can't compare that with
atrocities and Richard Rosichan wrote a very beautiful
letter the other day and I think he is right. One thing is
to die wearing a uniform as a soldier and we all mourn that,
but anything is to die as a child without having committed
any sin other than being a Jew. Now, what is happening in
South Africa is an anathema to everything we believe in as a
nation. People cannot be denied rights, just because they
happen to be Jewish or they happen to be Black. Now, we all
subscribe to that. The question is in the implementation of
what we believe in. Now, we pass the resolutions on the way
we invest our money and no monies to be invested in
companies that do business with South Africa. We have gone
along with your brilliant move on the Krugerand and I think
you were successful and we stopped the trading... you
stopped the trading, you and your associates of Krugerand.
We were successful with the race and Ralph Sanchez was
helpful in that. I commend you for your tenacity on this.
I will do everything and anything and will vote with
anything and everything that is within the law. What we
cannot do is... and I'm glad you are a lawyer and I said
that advisedly, is we cannot arbitrarily, unilaterally go
out and knowingly violate the law. Now, I don't know
whether these people have rights. They are not American
citizens, but I guess they have rights anyway and I don't
know what the contractual obligation is with Miss Universe.
I think you are right from a practical point of view, this
is not only going to cause us major embarrassment. I think
it will become a national scandal. I think there will be
people here from all over America picketing and if I were
Miss Universe and it is my opinion that they are out of
their minds if they pursue this and I will go to New York
with you and I will be happy to do that. There is a new
manager now of Miss Universe. With all due respects to
Harold Glasser, he didn't seem to understand this and I will
go with you and I think if you want and I think the City
should pay for your trip. You can take a day out of your
schedule, we will go up and Miller or whoever else wants to
join us. We need to go up to New York and see these people
at their office and tell them, this is a major matter and
unless you comply we are all going to be serious trouble.
Mr. Smith: Well, Mr. Mayor, I appreciate that. Number one,
I would be willing to go anyway. Number two, I will pay my
own way and although, I appreciate the gesture. Number
three, the urgency of the matter is that there are national
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forces in communication with our organization. I'm trying
to nip this in the bud before it gets out of our hands. It
will become more than just the racial aspect of the South
African participation, but there are those who don't think
there should be a beauty contest. There are those who have
all kinds of gripes and I want to try to see if we amongst
ourselves here in Miami, it's our community, can work this
thing out. We have to live here after all these other
people leave. When Miss South Africa leave we have to live
here together. When the demonstrators from all over the
County leave we have to live here together and just as we
were successful in working together to prevent South Africa
from participating in the Miami Grand Prix, before national
forces got involved, I'm hopeful that we can take this off
of the back burner and put this matter on the front burner
and let Harold Glasser and Miss Universe Pageant know...
Mayor Ferre: He is gone.
Mr. Smith: He is gone. I'm sorry. The Miss Universe
Pageant to know just how critical this is to our community.
We don't want it. You don't want it and certainly the
community doesn't need it. And That the appeal that we make
to you today.
Mayor Ferre: What are you recommending we do?
Mr. Smith: Well, we are recommending first of all that with
regard to the up ---I didn't know there were upcoming
meetings. With regard to upcoming meetings that they it be
impressed upon them that there will be national consequences
etc. Secondly, I would like to take you up on your offer.
I would like to be involved in the negotiation and the
discussion. And I would be willing to travel any where, not
speaking for the City, speaking for me and my organization
at my expense any time, any day.
Mayor Ferre: Absolutely.
Mr. Carollo: Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Ferre: Yes, sir.
Mr. Carollo: I can't help but to think that if we are going
to request of the Miss Universe Pageant not to allow a
representative of the Country of South Africa, not a
representative of the government, then for reasons that have
been stated here then how can we at the same time ignore
girls that come representing their countries, whether it be
Poland like last time or Yugoslavia or whatever. You know,
it seems somewhat, you know, hypocritical to me and some
what of a double standard. Mr. Mayor, I think that we have
to differentiate between representatives of governments and
representatives of people. Per se, the Polish people for
instance, are very catholic, very religious. I think for
the most part most Polish people are anti -communist. They
would like to do away with the form of government that they
have, but unfortunately, they have a gun to their heads,
just like South Africans have a gun to their heads in a
different manner.
Mr. Smith: Oh, no, absolutely not. I wish that the
situation was the same for South Africa, but it is not. r
Mr. Carollo: Well, nevertheless, there is a lot of
similarities and the point that I'm making here is that when
we had the Miss Universe Pageant last year, the girl that
was the runner up to Miss Universe and representative of the
Country of South Africa, she wasn't here campaigning in
favor of Apartheid or in favor of the South African
gl 34 May 9, 1985
government. All that she was here was representing her
country and her country means Black, White and everything in
between, just like.
Mr. Smith: Well, would you support Castro's Cuba being
represented in this universe pageant?
Mr. Carollo: Let me say this to you Mr. Smith.
Mr. Smith: Would you?
Mr. Carollo: No, let me say this to you.
Mr. Smith: Would you answer that one?
Mr. Carollo: This is not...
Mr. Smith: That's a fair question.
Mr. Carollo: No, let me say this...
Mr. Smith: If it's good for Cuba, it's good for South
Africa.
Mr. Carollo: I have been listening to you all day.
Mr. Smith: Ok. I apologize, go ahead.
Mr. Carollo: Now, if you would let me speak, I would be
more than happy to. The difference is that in Castro's
Cuba, there is no freedom whatsoever. The government
dictates who would come. That is not the case in the
Country of South Africa. The government of South Africa is
not dictating who is coming. That's a big difference. Now,
if any of these Countries, I don't care which one it is and
I'm not limiting it to South Africa. I'm including Poland
and Yugoslavia that came here last year. If the
representatives of those Countries, the girls that represent
those Countries would use their position as a platform to
try to present the point of view of their respected
governments, then that's a whole different ball game, but
that has not been the case and then what it comes down to is
where are we going to draw the line?
Mr. Smith: Well, obviously, you are drawing it at Cuba. We
are saying that you should draw it with South Africa too.
Mr. Carollo: No, no.
Mr. Smith: If Castro's Cuba allowed a beauty queen to come
here, she wouldn't be coming here advocating Castro's
policy. She would be coming here advocating beauty and
poise and talent, but it's wrong to have someone here from
Castro's Cuba. It is spitting the face of our Hispanic
community and I would stand with you against that.
Mr. Carollo: That's correct.
haven't in the past Mr. Smith.
Mr. Smith: You name one time.
You said you would, but you
Mr. Carollo: Prime examples that I can give you right now
and for the benefit of the Miami Herald and those that
always accuse me of getting into international affairs when
it's not to their benefit and when it not to their liking
and don't accuse others that get into it when it's to their
benefits. I ask you this...
Mr. Carollo: I ask you this and let me...
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Mr. Smith: I have never supported Castro.
Mr. Carollo: Let the put this on the record clear. I think
that the government of South Africa is committing one of the
worst atrocities in this day and age, but not as bad as what
is going on in the Soviet Union or Cuba or other Countries.
Because at least there are some freedoms there and I do no
agree with the form of government they have in that Country
whatsoever. So, let me set that right.
Mr. Smith: I appreciate that.
Mr. Carollo: At the same time I haven't seen any of the
people that represent your groups or any of these other
people that are marching nationally against the government
of South Africa marching against the government of Moscow,
the government of Havana nor the governments of Angola or
the former Country of Rhodesia, that after they were
overthrown because supposedly the governments there were
bad, the Blacks in those Countries now are the ones that are
suffering every worst, because the Blacks that are being
murdered in those Countries no one is speaking about and
there are more Blacks that being murdered in Angola today,
more Blacks that are being murdered in the former Country of
Rhodesia, Ethiopia today under the governments that
supposedly were going to open up the way for freedom then
there ever were in the previous governments that they had
and this is the point that I'm trying to make. Just like in
Nicaragua supposedly, by doing away with Somoza everything
was going to be great. Well, there are more people being
killed their today, more suffering going on today than were
before.
Mr. Smith: Well, you know, you are an excellent debate in a
position where you have the upper hand, because you are
:
Commissioner and I'm not. I would like to debate you any
s..,
time, any place on a issue on fair terms, but the record is
clear, unequivocal that you would not support Castro's Cuba
being in the Miss Universe Pageant, but that you do support
South Africa, a nation, a nation that in 1985 fifteen years
before the 21st century is the only nation on the face of
the earth that has racism inscribed in its constitution and
its laws. A nation where Black people live on only thirteen
h,F
per cent of the land and cannot live where they want to
live. A nation where Blacks are not a part of the
parliament. A nation where Blacks cannot vote.
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Mr. Carollo: And I have been in full agreement with you in
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all of that.
Mr. Smith: Excuse me, you said not to interrupt you. A
nation where Blacks have to move around based upon passes.
A nation where there is no right that a Black man has that a
White man has to respect. A nation where there are more
political prisoners in that nation than any other.... in the
Continent of Africa. A nation where Blacks cannot even own
land no how much money they own, but you support their
participation, but not Castro's Cuba participation. That's
on the record. But if you want to debate this in a fair
setting where we have fair rules where you are not
Commissioner Carollo and I'm citizen and taxpayer H. T.
Smith, I will be happy to do that.
Mr. Carollo: Mr. Smith, let's not kid each other. You have
had just as much ample opportunity here, in fact, more than
I have because as a Commissioner I have to kind of stand
back a little bit and not be as voiceful as you, sir. So,
you know that well, but I say this to you. I would be more
than happy to debate the whole overall issue with you on any
television program that would be fair and objective where we
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could both pick different reporters from respected
newspapers around the Country or the World that would like
to ask questions.
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Mr. Smith: Well, we have the meeting here and an invitation
may be forthcoming and I look forward to it with great
anticipation.
Mr. Carollo: We are in agreement and the Government of
South Africa. Where we are in this agreement on Mr. Smith
is that you are only campaigning against that government,
but you are not campaigning against all these other
governments. For instance, prime example, the Cuban troops
that are presently in Africa, whether it Angola or Ethiopia
or other parts of Africa. They have respectively killed
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more Black Africans on any given year than all the Black
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Africas that have been killed inside the Country of South
Africa. I don't see you shouting against that whatsoever.
Mr. Smith: Well, we will debate it. We will debate it and
I will see whether you will accept the invitation or whether
you will find an excuse to get out. You have to be out of
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town or whatever.
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Mr. Carollo: I don't find excuses.
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Mr. Smith: We will see.
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Mr. Carollo: I go and face things head on Mr. Smith.
Mr. Smith: Ok. Well, I respect you for that. That's one
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thing I do respect you for........
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Mr. Carollo: Well, I tell you, you know, I want to see a
change in the government of South Africa. A change that
will give people all the same equal rights, but I don't want
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to see is a replacement of a bad racist government for one
t;
that's going to worse and more racist that's going to be led
a,
by the Soviet Union so that they can control the whole
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Southern tip of Africa.
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Mr. Smith: Well, that's just want happened in Cuban. They
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got rid of Batista and wind up with Castro. That's always a
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possibility. But if you believe in human rights there is no
way you can support Miss South Africa coming here. Not and
look yourself in the mirror in the morning.
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Mr. Carollo: She has nothing to do with the Government of
South Africa.
Mr. Dawkins: Mr. Smith, we are going to do whatever we can
and like you said I'm going to get the date that Mr. Odio is
to meet with the people Lakeland and I will get it back to
you and Saturday...
Mr. Odio: This Saturday.
Mr. Plummer: This Saturday.
Mr. Smith: I'm available.
Mr. Dawkins: Ok. Then will you get with him sir. Mr.
Manager, is it all right if Mr. Odio get's with Mr. Smith to
set up the date.
Mr. Carollo: To the Manager and my colleague, is this also
going to include the same policy for representatives of k=
Poland, Yugoslavia or any other communist or totalitarian
regime that might send a representative from their Country
here?
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Mr. Smith: When Mr. Smith opened...
Mr. Carollo: I'm asking a question.
Mr. Dawkins: When Mr. Smith opened his statement I think he
prefaced it by saying any country that had oppressive laws
should not be allowed tn send a representative. Now, since
we are on this I am happy to see Black people finally stand
up and take a position. Every time you read the newspapers
the Jews do not let you forget that Hitler murdered
thousands and thousands of Jews, but at the same time that
Hitler murdered thousands of Jews Musolini murdered
thousands of Ethiopians, but you don't see nothing in the
paper that Ethiopians were slaughtered by Musolini. Why,
because we as Black people have failed to go back as the
Jews and be sure that each year is impressed on the minds of
the people in America that Hitler murdered six million Jews.
So, if this is a begin to make the world aware that Black
people are being treated unfairly any where on this
hemisphere, then I'm proud to be a part of it. All right,
sir.
Mr. Smith: Thank you.
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11. ALLOCATE 1/3 OF $10v000 IN CONNECTION WITH LOWENBRAU
EVENT COLLECTION OF MOVIES FEATURING BLACK ARTISTS
SUBJECT TO IDENTICAL FUNDING FORM SCHOOL BOARD AND METRO
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Mayor Ferre: Any other...
Mr. Dawkins: Yes, sir. Mr. Mayor, for the sake of brevity,
Mr. Carlton.
Mayor Ferre: Roger Carlton.
Mr. Dawkins: Can you do what you are going to do in three
minutes, sir and then I will... because we are running out
of time and I have... I have been spending... We still got
three other Commissioners to present pocket items. Go ahead
Roger.
Mr. Roger Carlton: Quickly Mr. Mayor and Commissioners,
there is a program being put together under the sponsorship
of Lowenbrau with a non-profit group that has brought
together a collection of movies that feature the evolution
of Black artists and their role in movies and in the media
and there is a memo in front of you that...
Mayor Ferre: It's a great program. What can we do for it?
Mr. Carlton: We are asking two things really. The first
thing is that we are asking for ten thousand which one third
would come from the City, one third from the County and one
third from the School Board to bring in disadvantaged
students to fill all the sits.
Mayor Ferre: Now, you make the motion Miller?
Mr. Dawkins: Ok. I make
the motion
because
I told Mr.
Carlton, Ms. Judy Drucker,
every time
she
brings the Down
Dancers or whatever it is, she goes to
the
School Board and
she gets a ton of money Mr.
Mayor from
the
School Board to
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take underprivileged...
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Mayor Ferre: And from us.
Mr. Dawkins: ...children on the Beach to see the Aliagda
Dancers.
Mayor Ferre: We paid for Placido Domingo. I think it was
twenty-five thousand dollars we gave.
Mr. Dawkins: So, the School Board should take the first
initiative in providing money for this. If they do, then I
make a motion that we match whatever the School Board and
the County match.
Mr. Plummer: Second.
Mayor Ferre: Further discussion on that motion? Call the
roll.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner
Dawkins, who moved its adoption:
MOTION NO. 85-467
A MOTION AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE
CITY MANAGER TO ALLOCATE ONE THIRD OF A
$10,000 ALLOCATION REQUEST IN CONNECTION
WITH A PROGRAM UNDER THE SPONSORSHIP OF
THE LOWENBRAU COMPANY WHICH HAS BROUGHT
TOGETHER A COLLECTION OF MOVIES
FEATURING THE EVOLUTION OF BLACK ARTISTS
AND THEIR ROLE IN THE MOVIES AND IN THE
MEDIA; SUBJECT TO THE SCHOOL BOARD AND
METROPOLITAN DADE COUNTY LIVING UP TO
THEIR OFFER TO EQUALLY MATCH THE CITY OF
MIAMI'S PORTION.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the motion
was passed and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
Mr. Dawkins: Ok. The second half of the motion is the
promoters in order to I guess stimulate interest in this
have agreed that they would take one charitable organization
in the Black community and give it a portion of the
proceeds. Since the Upgrove Theatre has been to us numerous
of times for funds I would like for this Commission to
recommend to the promoters that they give whatever proceeds
they are going to give to the Upgrove Theatre.
Mayor Ferre: Is there a second?
Mr. Plummer: Second.
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Mayor Ferre: Further discussion, call the roll on that.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner
Dawkins, who moved its adoption:
MOTION NO. 85-468
A MOTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION
RECOMMENDING TO THE PROMOTERS OF THE
"EVOLUTION OF BLACK ARTISTS" MOVIES
PROGRAM, THAT SINCE THEY HAVE OFFERED TO
CHOOSE ONE CHARITABLE ORGANIZATION IN
THE BLACK COMMUNITY TO GRANT THEM A
PORTION OF THE PROCEEDS FROM THEIR
EVENT, THAT THEY SHOULD SO GRANT SAID
PROCEEDS TO THE UP GROVE THEATRE GROUP.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the motion
was passed and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissione- Demetrio Perez, Jr.
'
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
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Mr. Dawkins: In the effort of time Mr. Manager, this
afternoon I would like for you to tell me nn Item 47 what we
are going to do with the money we get from selling the
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excess film and the other thing is I would like for you to
tell me why at Hadley Park we do not have anything to keep
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up the baseball diamond and no clay and also the number of
personnel that are now employed at Jose Marti Park, Moore
Park and Hadley Park and for the sake of brevity I will hold
off.
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12. ALLOCATE ADDITIONAL $69000 TO UPGROVE THEATRE GROUP
MAKING A TOTAL ALLOCATION OF $10,000
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Mayor Ferre: All right, now wait a minute, before we get
off of Upgrove Theatre I see the gentleman from Upgrove
Theatre. Would you step forward. As I understand we gave
you four thousand dollars last time and we said that if you
got a ten thousand dollar contribution from Metropolitan
Dade County we would match that. Now, it's my understanding
you have done that? Is that correct?
Mr. Morgan: That is correct.
Mayor Ferre: All right, just to save you some time I would
�move that the City of Miami therefore, live up to its
commitment and increase the four to ten and therefore, match
Metropolitan Dade County, so that you will then be receiving
twenty thousand dollars from both governments.
Mr. Dawkins: I second it under discussion. Have you
received the four thousand dollars?
Mr. Morgan: We have not received the four thousand dollars.
gl 40 May 99 1985
Mr. Dawkins: Ok. Mr, Manager, I called... I mean, he was
in my office. I called the Law Department and the Law
Department said that the agreement was in their office. So,
then they sent it back to you, Frank? And for two weeks Mr.
Manager, I have been trying to get... They say all they need
is an agreement signed by him for two weeks. Now, is there
anyway we can get him a check this afternoon, sir?
Mr. Pereira: Yes, that should be no problem. My
understanding was that he had come in with a request, you
know, obviously, higher than the four thousand dollars, but
getting the agreement signed... I don't know what is the
problem. Is it getting tied up in the bureaucratic non-
sense? If it is let's get it out of the bureaucratic non-
sense please.
Mr. Dawkins: Go over there now and get your check this
afternoon.
Mayor Ferre: All right, are we ready to call.
Mr. Dawkins: Yes, sir, call the question Mr....
Mayor Ferre: All right, call the question.
Mr. Plummer: No, let me just enter in discussion so that
you don't go away from here fully knowledgeable. You are
getting this grant now, but I want you to know the policy of
this Commission starting in the new budget year. There will
be no dollars available next year.
Mr. Morgan: Yes, I have your letter on file.
Mr. Plummer: Ok.
Mr. Morgan: Thank you.
Mayor Ferre: Call the roll.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner
Ferre, who moved its adoption:
MOTION NO. 85-469
A MOTION ALLOCATING AN ADDITIONAL $6,000
TO THE "UPGROVE THEATRE GROUP", IN
ADDITION TO A PRIOR ALLOCATION OF
$4,000, FOR A TOTAL $10,000 ALLOCATION
BASED UPON THEIR STATEMENT THAT
METROPOLITAN DADE COUNTY HAD COMMITTED
TO MATCH THE CITY'S FUNDS.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Dawkins, the motion
was passed and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
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13. EXPRESS FULL SUPPORT OF PRESIDENT REAGAN IN REGARD TO
THE TRADE EMBARGO RECENTLY IMPOSED AGAINST NICARAGUA.
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Mayor Ferre: All right, Commission Perez.
Mr. Perez: Mr. Mayor, you know, I think that all of us are
very familiar with the international situation about the
support to the Congress of the United States and the
reaction, especially in the European capitol about the
presence of President Reagan there. I would like to present
the motion today to this Commission expressing full support
of the trade embargo against the government of Nicaragua
imposed by President Reagan; Requesting that the Dade
County Commission adopt strict measures in enforcing the
trade embargo at the Miami International Airport and at the
Port of Miami, declaring as persona non grata all
representatives arriving in the city from the Sandinista
government of Nicaragua and all representatives of
commercial enterprises to contribute to the strengthening of
said Sandinista government. Further directing the City
Clerk to send a copy of this resolution to President Reagan,
Vice -President Bush, all members of the United States
Congress and all members of the Dade County Commission.
That's the motion that I would like to introduce.
Mayor Ferre: Is there a second?
Mr. Plummer: Second.
Mayor Ferre: All right, call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner
Perez, who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 85-470
A RESOLUTION EXPRESSING FULL SUPPORT OF
THE TRADE EMBARGO AGAINST THE GOVERNMENT
OF NICARAGUA IMPOSED BY PRESIDENT
REAGAN, REQUESTING THAT THE DADE COUNTY
COMMISSION ADOPT STRICT MEASURES IN
ENFORCING THE TRADE EMBARGO AT THE MIAMI
INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT AND THE PORT OF
MIAMI; DECLARING AS PERSONA NON GRATA
ALL REPRESENTATIVES ARRIVING IN THE CITY
FROM THE SANDINISTA GOVERNMENT OF
NICARAGUA AND ALL REPRESENTATIVES OF
COMMERCIAL ENTERPRISES WHO CONTRIBUTE TO
THE STRENGTHENING OF SAID SANDINISTA
GOVERNMENT; FURTHER DIRECTING THE CITY
CLERK TO SEND A COPY OF THIS RESOLUTION
TO PRESIDENT REAGAN, VICE-PRESIDENT
BUSH, ALL MEMBERS OF THE UNITED STATES
CONGRESS AND ALL MEMBERS OF THE DADE
COUNTY COMMISSION.
(Here follows body of resolution,
omitted here and on file in the Office
of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Carollo, the
resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
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ABSENT: None.
14. PROCLAIM WEEK OF JUNE 30 TO JUL.Y 4 AS FAITH WEEK IN THE
CITY OF MIAMI- WAIVE FEE FOR MARINE STADIUM.
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Mr. Perez: Mr. Mayor, I would like to recognize Reverend
that you presented a proclamation. Ok. First I have
a resolution for the event of the faith that they are going
to celebrate from June 30th to July 4th, that I would like
to move a resolution proclaiming and declaring the weeks of
June 30th to July 4th as the faith weeks in the City of
Miami. And also, I would like to move that we approve the
fee waiver of the function that they are going to have for
the... where is it? At the Miami Stadium. Could you come
to the podium? What is the cost of the function?
SPEAKER UNKNOWN: Excuse me.
Mr. Perez: What is the cost?
SPEAKER UNKNOWN: The cost. We spent last year seventeen
thousand dollars and this year we are going close to fifteen
thousand.
Mr. Perez: Yes, but that's the total function. But how
much you are supposed to... Mr. Manager, are you...
Mr. Pereira: It's a two thousand dollar rental fee from...
it's my understanding for the...
Mr. Perez: So you recommend? I think that we have
that last year we support this event, the Orange
Bowl.
Mr. Pereira: Yes, I just have an agreement here... let me
ask... you can just hold on a second.
Mr. Perez: Could we vote for it in principle pending for
the City Manager's recommendation?
Mayor Ferre: All right, there is a motion on the floor, is
there a second?
Mr. Plummer: I will second it.
Mayor Ferre: Further discussion. Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner
Perez, who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 85-471
A RESOLUTION PROCLAIMING AND DECLARING
THE WEEK OF JUNE 30TH TO JULY 4TH AS THE
"FAITH WEEK IN THE CITY OF MIAMI,
FLORIDA"; FURTHER APPROVING IN PRINCIPLE
A FEE WAIVER AS REQUESTED BY THE
EVANGELICAL MNISTRY N CONNECTION WITH AN
EVENT TO BE HELD AT THE MARINE STADIUM
DURING SAID WEEK.
(Here follows body of resolution,
omitted here and on file in the Office
of the City Clerk.)
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Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the
resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice•Mayor Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
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15. GRANT REQUEST OF DOWNTOWN MERCHANTS ASSOCIATION FOR
DOWNTOWN SIDEWALK SALE MAY 110 9 TO 6 P.M.
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Mayor Ferre: All right, anything else. Commissioner
Plummer.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, the only one of importance that I
have is that Mr. Willie Gort of the Downtown Merchants has
asked a Downtown sidewalk sale on May 11, 1985 from 9 to 6
P.M. on Flagler Street. They would like approval for such
and I so move.
Mr. Perez: Second.
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Mayor Ferre: All right, call the roll.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner
Plummer, who moved its adoption:
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MOTION NO. 85-472
A MOTION GRANTING A REQUEST MADE BY MR.
WILLIE GORT, AS REPRESENTATIVE OF THE
DOWNTOWN MERFCHANTSI ASSOCIATION,
AUTHORIZING SAID GROUP TO HOLD A
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"DOWNTOWN SIDEWALK SALE" ALONG FLAGLER
STREET p ON MAY 11, 1985, FROM 9: 00-6: 00
P.M.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Perez, the motion
was passed and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
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16. DISCUSSION: SCHEDULE FUNDING OF D.D.A. FOR NEXT MEETING
MGR. TO FURNISH COPY TO PROMOTERS OF FESTIVALS REGARDING
NEW CITY POLICY OF FUNDING
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Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I would like for the next meeting
that we schedule the DDA. It had been the request of this
Commission last Year that they start letting us know what
they are going to do about the funding for DDA in the coming
year.
Mayor Ferre: Yes, that's coming up.
Mr. Plummer: Well, 1 would like to schedule it for the next
meeting and not get it too close to budget time.
Mayor Ferre: No, no, it's scheduled for the next meeting.
Mr. Plummer: It' is?
Mayor Ferre: Absolutely.
months ago.
Mr. Plummer: All right, sir.
It was passed by the DDA two
I was unaware.
Mayor Ferre: And they are coming up with a specific
recommendation that requires City approval and I will tell
you what it's going to be. They are recommending that it be
a split funding between the County and that the County pay
for half of it.
Mr. Plummer: The other item I would like is Mr. Manager I
would like a copy of the letter that was sent out informing
the people that are the recipient of festival money. I have
not seen a copy of that letter.
Mr. Pereira: Oh, it went out. We will get you a copy.
Mr. Plummer: I asked to be shown it before it went out, but
obviously, it's already gone out.
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17. MAYOR READS LETTER CONCERNING PLIGHT OF COMMERCIAL
FISHERMEN PRESENTLY LOCATED IN AREA OF BAYSIDE
CONSTRUCTION.
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Mayor Ferre: All right, anything else Mr. Plummer?
Mr. Plummer: No, sir.
Mayor Ferre: All right, I have other items that are in the
interest of time I'm just going to bring one thing. There
was a letter this morning by Mr. J. C. Dobson, Miami and it
reads... the headline in the Herald this morning was "Don't
live fishermen high and dry". I need to tell you that I was
impressed by the logic of what Mr. Dobson says. He is
obviously, a fisherman and he has been here for twenty
years. It's his business. It's his livelihood and in
effect what he is saying is that he is all for Bayside and
it's a great project, but that in effect we have been slowly
chasing away the commercial fishermen from doing business in
Miami and I think he is right and I think we need to do
something about it. Mr. Manager. I... What? This is the
end of the... as I said I will hold up my other pocket
items, but out of... I would like to get this one on the
record. I would like Mr. Manager, for you as quickly as
possible and may not be by the next meeting, but certainly
may be in June for you to give us a report and I think the
City of Miami should go out of its way to facilitate the
commercial fishermen appropriate docking and storage spaces
for boats at a reasonable fee so that these people can
maintain their commercial operations and make a decent
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livelihood. I would point out these are working people.
These are not free loaders. They are not loafers. These
guys have a tough time making ends meet. That's hot an easy
business. Believe me commercial fishing is a rough tough
business. You got to get up at three in the morning. You
got to be out there and you got to take care of your
equipment. It's not an easy business and I think the City
of Miami should do everything within its power to help these
people survive and I think it ought to be in such a way that
we can also patrol it and control it so that those that are
not so clean and who involve themselves sometimes in drug
business can be properly surveyed and watched. But the
point is that those that are honest people that are just
making a living out of this, that we ought to not abandon
them and I think it's absolutely fair that we.... We have
got plenty of waterfront property and there may be a way for
us to accomplish this. I think we are scheduled to be back
here at 2. All right, then 2:30.
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18. ALLOCATE $509000 TO THEODORE ROOSEVELT GIBSON MEMORIAL
FUND UNITY AND COMMUNICATIONS CENTER
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Mrs. Thelma Gibson: Mr. Mayor, mine is just two minutes.
Mayor Ferre: Yes, Mrs. Gibson.
Mrs. Gibson: Mine is just for an approval from the Manager.
Mayor Ferre: Oh, I'm sorry, you are right. I apologize.
Mrs. Gibson: And I could go. I don't even have to speak.
I have worked with the staff.
Mayor Ferre: All right, Mrs. Gibson has requested... this
is the Gibson Unity and Communication Center Objectives.
There is no dollar amount Mrs. Gibson.
Mrs. Gibson: Yes, we worked it out.
Mayor Ferre: All right, Mr. Manager.
Mr. Pereira: Yes, we met with the members of the
foundation. We are making a...
(COMMENT OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD).
Mayor Ferre: All right, Mr. Manager continue.
Mr. Pereira: Mr. Mayor, at the direction of the Commission
we met with the program. We are making a recommendation
that fifty thousand dollars be appropriated for the Theodore
Gibson Memorial Fund and...
Mayor Ferre: Did you say fifteen?
Mr. Pereira: Fifty. 5-0.
Mayor Ferre: All right, you have heard the recommendation.
Mr. Plummer: I make the motion.
Mayor Ferre: Is there a second?
Mr. Perez: Second.
Mayor Ferre: Is there further discussion, call the roll.
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The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner
Plummer, who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 85-473
A RESOLUTION ALLOCATING $50t000 FROM THE
FY184-85 GENERAL FUND, SPECIAL PROGRAMS
AND ACCOUNTS; CONTINGENT FUND, TO
"THEODORE ROOSEVELT GIBSON MEMORIAL
FUND, INC." FOR THE PERIOD JUNE 1, 1985-
MAY 319 1986, IN SUPPORT OF THE THEODORE
R. GIBSON UNITY AND COMMUNICATIONS
CENTER; FURTHER AUTHORIZING THE CITY
MANAGER TO ENTER INTO AGREEMENT WITH THE
AFOREMENTIONED ORGANIZATION IN A FORM
ACCEPTABLE TO THE CITY ATTORNEY.
(Here follows body of resolution,
omitted here and on file in the Office
of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Perez, the
resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
WHEREUPON, THE CITY COMMISSION WENT INTO
A RECESS AT 12:10 P.M., RECONVENING AT
2:47 P.M., WITH THE FOLLOWING MEMBERS
PRESENT: Commissioner Dawkins
Commissioner J. L. Plummer
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
ABSENT: Commissioner Demetrio Perez
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
Note: Minutes were approved at this
point as per agenda.
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19. APPROVE SIDEWALK ART SHOW: COCONUT GROVE ARTISTS GROUP
SELECTED DATES IN MAY, JULY AND AUGUST 1985.
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Mayor Ferre: There is a gentleman here on Item 2 of the
consent agenda. It is authorizing the Coconut Grove Artists
Group to hold the Summer season art show series on Commodore
Plaza. Do you have any... Are you opposed to it?
SPEAKER UNKNOWN: No, I'm here for it.
Mayor Ferre: All right, is there a motion in favor of this?
Mr. Plummer: So move.
Mayor Ferre: Is there a second?
Mr. Dawkins: Second.
Mayor Ferre: All right, on Item #2, further discussion.
Call the roll on Item #2.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner
Plummer, who moved its adoption:
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RESOLUTION NO.85-474
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE COCONUT GROVE
ARTISTS GROUP TO HOLD THE SUMMER SEASON ART
SHOW SERIES ON COMMODORE PLAZA ON THREE
DATES TO BE SELECTED IN MAYO JULY AND
AUGUST, 1985, CONDITIONED UPON THEIR BEING
NO ACCESS BARRIERS TO SHOPS LOCATED ON
COMMODORE PLAZA.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here
and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Dawkins, the
resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Demetrio J. Perez, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
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20. ACCEPT BID & NEGOTIATE LEASE OF CENTRUST REALTY COMPANY
LEASE GROUND FLOOR RETAIL SPACE IN MIAMI CONVENTION
CENTER PARKING GARAGE.
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Mayor Ferre: All right, we are now on Item 41.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, on Item 41 with the full
understanding that it has to come back to us before it is
permanently and that seventeen fifty is a minimum rental and
the years of option are open, I move Item 41 with those
understandings.
Mayor Ferre: Is there a second?
Mr. Dawkins: Second.
Mayor Ferre: Further discussion? All right, call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner
Plummer, who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 85-475
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE LEASE PROPOSAL OF
CENTRUST REALTY & CONSTRUCTION COMPANY TO
LEASE THE GROUND FLOOR RETAIL SPACE IN THE
MIAMI CONVENTION CENTER PARKING GARAGE,
LOCATED ON A SITE BOUNDED BY SOUTHEAST
SECOND STREET, SOUTHEAST FIRST AVENUE,
DOWNTOWN DISTRIBUTOR I-95 (S.R.D. 854) AND
HALL-BELCHER TRACT (HOWARD JOHNSON'S INC.
PROPERTY); AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE
CITY MANAGER TO NEGOTIATE A LEASE AGREEMENT,
WITH CENTRUST REALTY & CONSTRUCTION COMPANY;
AND FURTHER DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO
PRESENT THE NEGOTIATED LEASE AGREEMENT TO
THE COMMISSION AS SOON AS PRACTICABLE FOR
CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL BY THE CITY
COMMISSION PRIOR TO THE EXECUTION OF SAID
CONTRACT; FURTHER CORRECTING A SCRIVENER'S
ERROR IN RESOLUTION NO. 85-98, WHICH
AUTHORIZED THE ISSUANCE OF A REQUEST FOR
PROPOSALS (RFP) FOR SAID LEASE BY AMENDING
SECTION I OF SAID RESOLUTION TO HAVE THE
AMOUNT OF RETAIL SPACE READ 18,700 SQUARE
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FEET, THE AMOUNT REFLECTED IN THE RFP AND
THE AMOUNT PRESENTED TO THE CITY COMMISSION
AT THE TIME RESOLUTION 85-98 WAS ADOPTED.
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and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Dawkins, the
resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote -
NOTE FOR THE RECORD: Commissioner Perez returned to meeting
j at 2:56 P. M.
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s 21. APPOINT MEMBERS TO THE STATUS OF WOMEN COMMISSION;
PROVIDE FOR STAFF PERSON, OFFICE SUPPLIES, BUDGET ETC..
' Mayor Ferre: All right, we are now on Item 52, appointment
of certain individuals to the City of Miami Commission of
? the Status of Women, appointing five members. Mrs. Baro.
Ms. Alicia Baro: My name is Alicia Baro and I live in 271
Northwest 64th Avenue in the City of Miami. Mr. Mayor and
City Commissioners, before we go into that I wanted to ask
about the staff person. The Commission on the Status of
Women which I am representing now needs a staff person.
Mr. Plummer: How much?
Ms. Baro: We have discussed this with the City Manager and
he has a recommendation.
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Mr. Plummer: All right, the Manager says he can assign a
person to be a staff person, does that take care of it?
Ms. Baro: Yes. Full-time please.
Mr. Plummer: All right, full time Mr. Manager.
Ms. Baro: As a typist clerk... someone that can work with
us exclusively.
Mr. Plummer: All right. I also want to include...
Mayor Ferre: Well, as long as that person is busy.
Ms. Baro: Absolutely, she will be.
Mayor Ferre: Because you know, we have had these things
where people are assigned and then all of the sudden they
are only working eighteen hours...
Ms. Baro: She will be very busy Mr. Mayor. We have a lot
of work for her. That's the only way we can fulfill our
plans.
Mayor Ferre: All right.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, in relation to that motion which
include as a full-time staff person from the Manager's
Office, I would like to make it on an equal footing the same
as the County that the Status of Women have their own
telephone listing as well as their secretary and I would
move that in the form of a motion.
Mr. Dawkins: Second.
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Mayor Ferre: All right, is that incorporated in Item 52?
Mr. Plummer: Yes, sir.
Mayor Ferre: Any other discussion on Item 52?
Mr. Perez: Who are the persons that we are going to
appoint?
Mayor Ferre: Well, the names that have been submitted...
Ms. Baro: Excuse me, Mr. Mayor, does that mean that we will
be allowed monies for letter head and other things?
Mayor Ferre: Hey don't push it.
Ms. Baro: Huh, don't push it.
Mayor Ferre: Now, these are the names of the people Barbara
Ibarra, Kathleen Phillips, Susan Pana and Ana Maria
Carnesoltas, Mona Light. That's a name out of the past.
And Kathleen Shaw.
Ms. Baro: Mr. Mayor, there is five to be appointed. I gave
you six, really you need to appoint five.
Mayor Ferre: Look I know Mona Light and I know Ana Maria
Carnesoltas. Are these... there is on Cuban woman, Is
Ibarra...
Ms. Baro: No, she is Puerto Rican. Barbara Ibarra.
Mayor Ferre: Puerto Rican. All right, how many Blacks?
Ms. Baro: How many Blacks?
Mayor Ferre: Blacks. Yes, Blacks.
Ms. Baro: Of those?
Mayor Ferre: Yes.
Ms. Baro: I don't know if any are Black.
Mayor Ferre: Well, how many Blacks are there? There are a
lot of Blacks...
Ms. Baro: We have about five or six on the Commission.
Mr. Dawkins: You got three.
Ms. Baro: Three.
Mr. Dawkins: That's all.
Ms. Baro: The last time we had...
Mr. Dawkins: Well, I want to tell you here is your list
right here.
Mrs. Angela Bellamy: Mr. Mayor and Commission, there are
five Black members on the Commission of the Status of Women.
Mr. Dawkins: Ok. Name them for me. Hold it. Hold it,
turn to the list. We have a list here of people on the
Commission of the Status of Women, committee members.
Mrs. Bellamy: Ok. Pat Johnson.
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Mr. Dawkins: Martha Prado is what?
Mrs. Baro: She is Cuban.
Mrs. Bellamy: She is Hispanic.
Mr. Dawkins: Nikki Baere
Mrs. Bellamy: Anglo.
Mr. Dawkins: Terry Stone.
Mrs. Bellamy: Anglo.
Mr. Dawkins: Gisela Cardonne
Mrs. Bellamy: Hispanic.
Mr. Dawkins: Alicia Baro.
Mrs. Bellamy: Hispanic.
Mr. Dawkins: Pat Johnson.
Mrs. Bellamy: Black.
Mr. Dawkins: One. Kathleen Hale.
Mrs. Bellamy: Anglo.
Mr. Dawkins: Julie Tiger.
Mrs. Bellamy: Anglo.
Mr. Dawkins: Jeanet Seiton.
Mrs. Bellamy: Anglo.
Mr. Dawkins: Valerie Lamonthe.
Mrs. Bellamy: Black.
Mr. Dawkins: Two. Olga Garay.
Mrs. Bellamy: Hispanic.
Mr. Dawkins: Verneka Silva
Mrs. Bellamy: Black.
Mr. Dawkins: Three. Clara Whelan
Mrs. Bellamy: Anglo.
Mr. Dawkins: Cynthia Cochrane.
Mrs. Bellamy: Black.
Mr. Dawkins: Mary McCray.
Mrs. Bellamy: Black.
Mr. Dawkins: Five. Ok. I stand corrected.
Mr. Plummer: Out of how many?
Mrs. Bellamy: Out of fifteen.
Mr. Plummer: How many Hispanic?
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Mrs. Bellamy: Four.
Mr. Plummer: How many Anglo?
Mrs. Bellamy: Six.
Mayor Ferre: Now, what you are saying is that we add five
More is that it? We are adding five, right?
Ms. Baro: Right.
Mr. Dawkins: To make it twenty?
Ms. Baro: Yes, sir.
Mayor Ferre: Now, tell me what Barbara... she is a
Hispanic. Right?
Ms. Baro: Yes.
Mayor Ferre: Kathleen Phillips.
Ms. Baro: I don't know. Do you know Hattie?
Mayer Ferre: Who is recommending these people?
Mrs. Bellamy: Anglo. The Commission is recommending them,
but I have a list.
Mayor Ferre: Anglo. All right, Susan
Mrs. Bellamy: Anglo.
Mayor Ferre: Ana Maria Carnesoltas is Hispanic.
Mrs. Bellamy: Yes.
Mayor Ferre: Mona Light is Anglo and Kathleen Shaw.
Mrs. Bellamy: Anglo.
Mayor Ferre: So, what you are doing is to the six that are
Anglos you are adding four, which makes ten. There are no
Blacks added, that makes it five. And you are adding two
Hispanics to the four that makes Hispanics come up to six.
So, you got six Hispanics, five Blacks and ten Anglos.
Mr. Dawkins: It won't work.
Mayor Ferre: It seems to me that you ought to have at least
a minimum of six.
Mr. Dawkins: That's right. I agree.
Mayor Ferre: So, give me one more Black.
Ms. Baro: There were sixteen. Weren't there sixteen
resumes that was passed on?
Mr. Dawkins: Ok. I defer this until we get the ethnic
breakdown together please.
Ms. Baro: Ok. But I think the resumes were passed on to
you, I believe with recommendations as to...
Mr. Dawkins: Ms. Baro, see but it's not my problem that you
did not pass on proper resumes. Ok. I mean, not you now.
I mean staff. I mean, this is not you, because you...
Ms. Baro: Yes, I understand.
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Mr. Dawkins: Like you said this is why you are trying to
fight to get somebody to help you. Ok. But now, staff
should have known that we were going to jump on this.
Ms. Barn: Ok.
Mr. Dawkins: Ok. So, they should have made sure that the
resumes they sent in represented the community.
Ms. Baro: Right.
Mr. Dawkins: That's all we are saying.
Ms. Baro: Thank you.
Mayor Ferre: Alicia.
Ms. Barr: Yes.
-` Mayor Ferre: Something else while you are here. Let's make
sure that at least the majority of these women live in the
City of Miami.
Ms. Baro: Ok.
Mayor Ferre: So, would you also make sure that it's clearly
understood... looks like... and I think they should all
either work or live, because if you got people... I
understand that perhaps they may live in the County or
something, but if they don't work and they don't live in the
City of Miami then why are they on the City of Miami board.
I think the majority definitely should live in the City and
I think that the majority and all of them should either live
or work.
Ms. Baro: I will pass that on.
Mayor Ferre: Ok.
Ms. Baro: Ok.
Mayor Ferre: Now, there is a motion that this item be
deferred until the next meeting.
Mr. Plummer: The motion is to the appointments, but the
other portion is to be passed.
Mayor Ferre: Yes. All right. In order words the other
portion of it we pass.
Mr. Dawkins: Ok. I would like to make another addition. I
don't see how we can expect the Commission on the Status of
Women to communicate with the public and not have letter
head paper. I mean, it's just... I don't.. I mean, Mr.
Manager, that's a minor expense. So, you will get that.
Ms. Baro: Thank you, Commissioner. Thank you. Ok. Thank
you very much.
Mr. Plummer: What is your present budget?
Ms. Baro: The budget right now?
simply exist.
Mr. Pereira: There isn't any.
over at Human Resources.
There isn't any. We just
They use the existing staff
Mayor Ferre: Miller, I will tell you, Clara Whelan has
taken the time to come here. That shows an interest. Ok.
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And I think that the one person we should appoint today if
? it's all right with the rest of you it Clara Whelan.
Ms, Baro: She is a member, sir.
Mayor Ferre: Oh, you are a member.
Ms. Baro: Yes.
Mayor Ferre: Oh, I'm sorry.
(BACKGROUND COMMENT OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD)
Mayor Ferre: Oh, I see. Well, then why is your name here?
Oh, I see you are not being appointed, you already are a
member.
Ms. Baro: That's right.
Mayor Ferre: Sorry.
Ms. Baro: That's right. Ok.
Mr. Perez: I would like to propose an appointment...
Mayor Ferre: Sure.
Mr. Perez: I would like to Mr. Mayor, to propose the
appointment of Ana Maria Carnesoltas who was a distinguish
member of our legal department and I would like that she be
a part of that Commission.
A.
Mayor Ferre: Well, I tell you if you are going to do that
then I want also to appoint Barbara Ann Ibarra. So, those
two Hispanics... Miller.
Mr. Dawkins: Yes, sir Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Ferre: We are going to appoint the two Hispanics out
of the five appoint two Hispanics leave the other three open
with... They heard the statement. That would bring the
Hispanics up from four to six.
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Mr. Dawkins: We only need one Black to make it six.
Mayor Ferre: We need one more Black or two and then of
three remaining one has to Black. Ok.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, if we are going to be honest, I
cannot envision that this committee will continue to exist
without a budget. There is just no way. Now, I would like
to be honest and propose that this committee for the
remaining balance of this year from now until budget time be
given a budget of fifteen hundred dollars from which they
can take out their postage, they can take out their
stationary and things of that nature.
- Mayor Ferre: Let's start all over again. Plummer moves
that Item 52 be moved with t he following conditions; One,
that the Manager assign a staff person full-time to act as
secretary. Two, that a budget of fifteen hundred dollars be
established between now and the end of the budget year in
September for the purposes of letter head, stamps, etc.
- — Three...
Mr. Plummer: And three, that they be afforded the
opportunity to have a listing in the phone listing the same
as other Status of Women Groups.
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Mayor Ferre: That the names Ana Maria Carnesoltas and
Barbara Ann Ibarra be appointed and that for the remaining
three appointed seats a minimum of one more Black woman be
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appointed so that there is a minimum of six. Ok. The
others can be whatever the committee decides. That way
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there will be a minimum of six Hispanics, six Blacks and if
it's... Well it would be...
Ms. Baro: Eight.
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Mayor Ferre: It could be as many as eight Anglos or seven,
seven, whatever. Ok. And that the Majority live in the
City of Miami and that all of them either live or work.
Ms. Baro: Thank you very much. Ok.
Mayor Ferre: Is that the intent of the motion. Is there a
second?
Mr. Dawkins: Second.
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Mayor Ferre: Further discussion, call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner
Plummer, who moved its adoption:
1 RESOLUTION NO. 85-476
A RESOLUTION APPOINTING CERTAIN INDIVIDUALS
TO THE CITY OF MIAMI COMMISSION ON THE
STATUS OF WOMEN; DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER
TO ASSIGN THE SERVICES OF A FULL-TIME CITY
CLERICAL EMPLOYEE TO SERVE AS A STAFF PERSON
TO SAID COMMISSION; ALLOCATING AN AMOUNT NOT
TO EXCEED $1,500 FROM SPECIAL PROGRAMS AND
ACCOUNTS, CONTINGENT FUND, TO COVER THE COST
OF STATIONERY AND A SEPARATE TELEPHONE LINE
{
FOR USE BY SAID COMMISSION.
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(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here
and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Dawkins, the
resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner Demetrin J. Perez, Jr.
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
Note for the Record: The persons appointed: Ana Maria
Carnesoltas and Barabara Ann Ibarra.
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22. DEFER CONSIDERATION OF SELECTION OF
DEVELOPER FOR SITE
37 PARK
WEST/OVERTOWN UNTIL SITE
FOR HOTEL BEING
DEVELOPED
BY NEW WASHINGTON HEIGHTS
IS RESOLVED 6 MONTH
TIME FRAME
ETC.
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Mayor Ferre:
We are on Item # 53 which
is a 2 P.M. public_
hearing. Yes, sir.
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Mr. Herb Bailey: Mr. Mayor and members of the Commission at
the last Commission meeting this item was deferred at a
request of Commissioner Dawkins for additional information
on the comparable rents on block 24 and block 37. The two
comparisons were to be between John Cruz Development from
Boston and Can American from Minneapolis. We have provided
' that information to the Commissioner and we are back here
today to answer any further questions that the Commission
may have. Both developers are present.
Mayor Ferre: All right. Do the members of either the Cruz
organization or of Can American wish to address the
Commission on anything. If not, are there questions from
members of the Commission?
Mr. Dawkins: My question is I think the minutes will
reflect that this Commission and if I'm in error someone
correct me, instructed Mr. Bailey to work with the New
Washington Heights group in identifying a site for their
hotel. Am I correct in that?
Mr. Bailey: That was correct Commissioner on another item.
Mr. Dawkins: Ok. Has that been done?
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Mr. Bailey: A member of my staff has met with Ms. Bell and
i with the Board of Directors of New Washington Heights to
begin discussions. At the moment we do not have a site
identified other than those that we are working with in the
first phase.
Mr. Dawkins: Mr. Mayor, I have no problems and I'm glad to
know that I am going to vote for Can Am, but I want it
understood and I'm going to vote for Can Am to get the
parcel of land, but I'm going to continue it until Mr.
Bailey identifies a site for Ms. Jackie Bell and those to
put ahotel on. Now, I hate to do this, but if my memory
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serve me correct, Mr. Bailey was told to leave that site out
and he did not leave it out. He put it in. See, so now
these people here are paying a penalty because my staff did
not follow directions from this Commission. Sm, therefore,
I hate to do this, but I have no other choice. I move that
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it be continued until Mr. Bailey comes back to this
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Commission and tell us, although, they are going to get the
site, they can have the site, but it has to be held up until
Mr. Bailey decides that he going to do what this Commission
directs him to do and come back here with a site.
Mr. Bailey: May I make a statement?
Mr. Dawkins: Yes, sir.
Mr. Bailey: I think in a correction, I was never instructed
and first of all it was site fifty-six New Washington
Heights was concerned with. I was never given the
instruction to leave a site out for any reason. I was given
specific instruction that each site should be bided
individually so that everybody would have a fair chance at
bidding on the site. The first recommendation to the City
Manager was that we would bid them collectively and in our
discussion it was understood that if we did that, that very
few minorities would have an opportunity to bid. So, I was
instructed very specifically to bid each site out
individually and that's what we did and that's block fifty-
six and I just don't have a site at the time. In fact I
don't even have the authority to you know, to give a site to
New Washington Heights.
Mr. Dawkins: We have a difference of opinion as to what as
or was not said, but I think if you will go and check with
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the former City Manager Howard Gary, I think it was an
understanding ---tray be it wasn't said -=-that New Washington
Heights would have a site and I don't care how we juggle it
around as to what was promised or what was not promised or
what. And I'm here to tell you that this Commission feels
its duty and responsibility that a commitment having been
trade and we have said up here that we are going to help this
CDBO build a hotel and the more we tell you that we are
going to help build this hotel and this is my personal
opinion, the more determine you are not to help it get
built. Now, that's my...
Mr. Bailey: That's your opinion.
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Mr. Dawkins: That's my personal opinion.
i Mr. Bailey: Ok. That's your opinion, but that's not true.
Mr. Pereira: Mr. Bailey, please. Herb. If recall the one
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we approved the Overtown/Park West, all the proposals that
was submitted in my recommendation, there was an awful lot
of discussion visa via the construction of the hotel and I
think that we are both correct. There was a motion if
recall made by the board instructing staff to work with
Jackie Bell in order to come up with... because this is only
phase I of the development and I think that we are prepared,
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you know, to work with her as we develop... we continue to
develop Overtown/Park West in working with her in trying to
identify a parcel to build that hotel. That was implicit in
that and it was made while I was, you know, while I was here
at that hearing and then we will move, you know, to do that.
What happened before I obviously, had no control, no
knowledge of it, but I can assure you that that motion that
was made by this board will be carried out in its fullest as
we would progress in developing phase II of Overtown/Park
West.
Mr. Dawkins: I will listen to you. I will hear you and go
along with you if you change the word "may" to "will".
Mr. Plummer: "Shall".
Mr. Dawkins: No, no, "will". I mean, I know the verb I'm
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looking for.
Mr. Bailey: You know, we have had meetings...
Mr. Dawkins: No, I'm talking to the Manager. Ok. All
right, sir. You see, I will trust you. Ok. I want you to
understand I have got complete trust in you. If you tell me
this will happen. I expect it to happen, sir.
Mr. Pereira: Well, we will work with Ms. Bell.
Mr. Dawkins: And you will identify a site that they can put
a hotel on?
Mr. Pereira: That's right, sir.
Mr. Dawkins: Well, Ms. Bell, are you comfortable with
that?
Ms. Jackie Bell: Please make a time table on it.
Mr. Dawkins: Ok. All right, Mr. Manager, what kind of time
frame would you need, sir to complete that? Within a year.
Mr. Pereira: Well, let me check with Mr....
Mr. Dawkins: Ok.
Go right ahead, sir.
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a Mr. Plummer: Let me ask a question while he is doing that.
Jackie what kind of absolute commitments do you have from a
major developer that they will put up a hotel?
Ms. Bell: We dn,
Mr. Plummer: I need more than we do. Who are they? What
commitments have the made? Are they in writing?
Ms. Bell: Not in writing, but each one of you have been
given...
Mr. Plummer: Well, but wait a minute now. You know, you
got to be fair with us. Ok. Now, are you talking about...
I remember at the last meeting you talked about someone here
from Marriott. Is that correct?
Mayor Ferre: No, no, it was Holiday Inn...
Mr. Plummer: The Holiday Inn?
Ms. Bell: Yes.
Mr. Plummer: Look, to me it's an effort in futility if we
sit here and designate a site and you cannot come up with a
guarantee commitment.
Ms. Bell: The minute you give us a site we will come back
with you with a commitment.
Mr. Plummer: Well, ok. Wait a minute...
Mr. Pereira: Let me make a clarification. '
Ms. Bell: We can't get a commitment until we got a site.
Mr. Plummer: Ok. But here again you want a time table, I
think it's only fair that we have a time table.
Ms. Bell: Agreed with you Mr. Plummer. I agree with you.
If we asked you for a time table, we certainly want to come
back to you in the same vein.
Mayor Ferre: Understand Jackie... I understand what the
Manager wants, but just a moment. Understand that if we
designate a location which is the intention of this
Commission and it always has been to fulfill that commitment
that is of many years standing. If we can't fulfill it here
we will have to fulfill it in an adjacent property, but
Jackie, I don't want to dissuade you and I don't want you to
be upset, but Ted Hollo is not ready to build a hotel there.
Ok. And I think that that's something you are going to have
to deal with and you are going to have to put a time... we
are going to have to put a time limit.
Ms. Bell: Mr. Mayor, I just said to you, we asked you for a
time table and we expect to be the same.
Mayor Ferre: That's acceptable.
Ms. Bell: Ok.
Mayor Ferre: All right, Mr. Manager.
Mr. Pereira: Mr. Mayor and members of the Commission, I'm
informed by staff that since that meeting that I alluded to
earlier, there have been two meetings with Ms. Bell and her
organization and that we have identified the possibility of =_
two sites for this project. Now, I'm told by our City
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Attorney, that even though we might identify those sites we
still have to go through the bidding process on those sites.
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And that's the instruction I have from the legal department.
Mr. Dawkins: You see, that's what I continue to say up here
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and nobody seem to understand what I'm saying. You see, you
and I'm not... I mean, the administration has locked certain
people out of this process and they have locked it out
because Mr. Bailey has sat down and drawn up rules and
regulations that eliminate them. And unless we make some
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concessions to them, you are right, they will never get a
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site and I agree with you Mr. Manager and some concessions
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have to be made sir, if you plan to go ahead and develop
OvertownlPark West. Now, if you don't then I have to put
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the monkey on your back sir and say you are right, I'm going
to stop it, but I'm stopping it because we can't compromise
and come to some arrangement.
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Mr. Pereira: The concessions, you know, to use the word,
will have to be made on the punctuation as we evaluate the
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proposes that they submitted where... and that's something
that we will have to bring back for your approval before we
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go out.
Mr. Dawkins: All right, now stand up Mr. Simonette. Here
is a man who through eminent domain ---sit down sir ---you all
took twenty-one lots of his in the Black neighborhood.
Twenty-one lots. Ok, now, you can find the rules and the
regulations to do this, but when it comes time to telling
him, ok, we took your twenty-one lots through eminent
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domain. Right now we don't have nothing around it but a
fence. So, now in order for you to participate, sir, bring
back the money we gave you for the twenty-one lots and you
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can buy an equal part. You are not saying that. You just
took his land and now you are going to tell me that he is
locked out. He cannot participate because he does not have
a big developer with him. That's not right, Mr. Manager.
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Mr. Plummer: Mr. Manager, what is the time table? How long
before you will take to identify a location for the New
Washington Heights? Is six months reasonable?
Mr. Pereira: Six months, I think is reasonable for us to
r# identify it and come back with some sort of process that we
can all agree which will be of benefit... we will be taking
into consideration the kinds of concerns that you have that
you are putting on the table.
'r Mr. Plummer: Jackie, what is a reasonable time table for
j;- you, that if you can't get a definite commitment in writing,
t is six months also a reasonable time?
Ms. Bell: Then we are talking about year, because you are
talking about six months before.
Mr. Plummer: Well, you have got the year. They have got
six months.
Ms. Bell: Ok. I will take that,...e in the legal opinion
that I requested from the City Attorney would be that we
file suit against the City of Santa Monica and Chief King
personally in State court here. If it is moved to Federal
court later on, we would file suit in Federal court.
but, in the meantime, I would like for this Commission to be
notified every thirty days from our corporation and from
your OvertownlPark West, where we are, and how far we have
come and New Washington Heights will be more than happy to
supply each one of you on a thirty day basis, or come before
you on a 30 day basis and tell you where we are. Is that
fair, Mr. Plummer?
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Mr. Plummer: Fine with me.
Mayor Ferre: All right, are we ready to vote? What is your
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motion?
Mr. Dawkins: The motion is that the Administration work
with the New Washington Heights group to identify sites
within six months that they can put a hotel on, and that Ms.
Bell come back within six months with a package that would
make this hotel a reality; if not, at the end of the year,
everything reverts back to the City.
Mayor Ferre: Is that acceptable to everyone? Is there any
$ legal problems? Does the Management, the Administration
have any problems?
Mr. Plummer: The only one that has any problems is the two
developers.
Mayor Ferre:
No, it doesn't affect them.
Mr. Dawkins:
No, it doesn't affect them.
Mr. Plummer:
This group is held up for six months.
Mayor Ferre:
No!
Mr. Dawkins:
No, no.
Mayor Ferre:
You don't understand. Based on
this, he voted
for the others.
Mr. Plummer:
But, that is at the end of the
six months.
Mayor Ferre:
No, we are going to vote for it
now.
Mr. Dawkins:
The Manager has given me ...
go ahead, Mr.
Mayor. No,
The manager gave me his word.
Mayor Ferre:
I heard him.
Mr. Plummer:
Okay!
Mayor Ferre:
This is based on the fact that
it will be done
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and that the
Manager ... the Commissioner said he takes the
Manager's word and commitment on it and made
it in the form
of a motion.
Now I am asking for a second.
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Mr. Plummer:
I second it.
Mayor Ferre: All right, is there further discussion? Yes,
sir.
(Unidentified): Mr. Mayor, so long as at the end of six
months it results in a bidding process of some kind along
the City ordinance.
Mayor Ferre: That is understood - that it has to be done
within the purviews of the law.
Mr. Dawkins: I understand that.
Mayor Ferre: All right, are we ready to vote on this? All
right, now, call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner
Dawkins, who moved its adoption:
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RESOLUTION NO. 85-478
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE
RECOMMENDATION OF THE CITY MANAGER FOR
THE SELECTION OF CAN=AMERICAN REALTY
CORPORATION AS DEVELOPER FOR THE
DEVELOPMENT OF PARCEL 37 WITHIN THE
SOUTHEAST OVERTOWN/PARK WEST
REDEVELOPMENT PROJECT PHASE 1;
AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE CITY
MANAGER AND CITY ATTORNEY TO NEGOTIATE A
CONTRACT WITH THE PROPOSER; AND FURTHER
DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO PRESENT
THE NEGOTIATED CONTRACT TO THE CITY
COMMISSION AS SOON AS PRACTICABLE FOR
CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL BY THE CITY
COMMISSION PRIOR TO THE EXECUTION
THEREOF.
(Here follows body of resolution,
omitted here and on file in the Office
of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the
resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
Mayor Ferre: Now on the main motion of Item 53. All right,
is there a motion on Item 53, as presented by the
Administration? ... for the recommendation of the committee
and so on. Well, all right, I'll move it. I am ready to
move Item 53.
Mr. Carollo: There is a motion by the Mayor. Is there a
second?
Mr. Plummer: I am going to second it for discussion because
I am losing something somewhere. It was my understanding
that the first motion that passed - that the approval of
American Can was included in that first motion.
Mayor Ferre: No. He wanted to put on the record that Jackie
was going to get a hotel site and have the ability to bid on
it and come back with a package within a certain period. We
have just done that. Now, having done that, Commissioner
Dawkins said it puts the burden on the Manager. He says
that he is satisfied that the Manager is going to do it and
then he said after that, that he is ready to vote, as I
understood it, Item 53. I thought it, right? Okay, now ...
Mr. Dawkins: That didn't say I was voting in favor of it.
I just said I was going to vote.
Mayor Ferre: Oh, I see - okay. I move Item 53.
Mr. Carollo: There is a motion. Is there a second?
Mr. Plummer: Well, I seconded it for purposes of
discussion. I still reserve my right to vote either way.
Mr. Carollo: Well, I will tell you what, J.L. I will give
you the Chair - I'll second it and I call the question if
there is no further discussion. Call the roll.
The following motion was introduced by Mayor Ferre, who
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moved its adoption:
MOTION NO. 85-477
A MOTION DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO
WORK WITH THE NEW WASHINGTON HEIGHTS
GROUP IN ORDER TO IDENTIFY A SITE IN THE
CITY OF MIAMI WITHIN THE NEXT SIX (6)
MONTHS FOR CONSTRUCTION OF A HOTEL
PROPOSED TO BE BUILT; FURTHER DIRECTING
THAT MISS JACKIE BELL SHALL BE AFFORDED
THE OPPORTUNITY TO BID ON SAID SITE AND
PRESENT TO THE CITY COMMISSION, SIX
MONTHS FROM SAID TIME, A COMPLETE
FINANCIAL PACKAGE IN CONNECTION WITH
SAID PROJECT; FURTHER STIPULATING THAT
IF NOTHING HAS MATERIALIZED A YEAR FROM
THIS DATE, THIS PROJECT SHALL BE
CONSIDERED TO BE A DEAD PROJECT.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the motion
was passed and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
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23. DISCUSSION: TELEPHONE CALL FROM SENATOR PEPPER.
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Mayor Ferre: This is Congressman Pepper calling and he has
some very good news that they want to share with us about
another one of Pepper's accomplishments, so I am going to
put him on the loudspeaker.
Mr. George Clark: Hello, this is George Clark. The
Congressman is over at the Rules Committee and he asked me
to tell you that he just heard from Bill Chapel that his
Sub -committee on appropriations, on energy and water
development has included the money to fund the construction
of the Promenade in Bayfront Park. It will go through the
full committee on the 15th and be in the house bill for this
year.
Mayor Ferre: Is that the Promenade that goes to the
library, George?
Mr. Clark: Well, that is correct.
Mr. Dawkins: That is the Promenade, George, that may go tr�
the library if we move it, George. If we don't move it, it
won't go through, George.
Mayor Ferre: Can you hear that, George?
Mr. Clark: No, sir, not too well.
Mr. Plummer: Put on your water wings!
Mayor Ferre: Commission Dawkins wanted you to know that it
may go through the library if the library is torn down. If
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it doesn't, and it may not, so you thank Congressman Pepper
for his efforts and tell him we may not be able to use the
money, depending upon what happens this afternoon. The
afternoon meeting will begin at 6:00 P.M. Thank the Senator
for his interest and support. As usual. Thank you very
much.
Mr. Carollo: Maurice, if you could express our gratitude to
the Senator from all of us for his efforts on behalf of the
people of Miami
Mayor Ferre: And that goes for all members of the
Commission.
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24. ALLOCATE $459000 TO COVER NECESSARY EXPENSES OF POLICE
OVERTOWN ATHLETIC PROGRAM.
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Mr. Dawkins: As I was saying, Mr. Mayor, this boxing
program is doing a tremendous job and we have yet to find
anything wrong, but every time Coconut Grove Cares comes up
here, we have yet to find out how it has utilized the
dollars, so Mr. Manager, I will be attempting at budget time
to put all of the monies in a boxing program into our Police
Athletic Boxing Program to see that they are allowed to
continue to do the type of work they are doing City-wide,
instead of just in Overtown.
Mayor Ferre: I also would like to point out, Mr. Manager
and the members of the Police Department that are presenting
this, because I see that the budget you are presenting -
which is $44,423.80, but it does not include the estimated
cost of the police officers involved, and as I recall, there
are three officers in this program?
Sgt. Patrick Burns: At the present time, sir - I am the
sergeant, I supervise that gym. I have dual
responsibilities as an administrator and working part time
with the program. Because of other problems at the
Department, we have Officer Ramondi with a P.S.A. there, so
we are a little short handed.
Mayor Ferre: So, are there one and a half officers working?
Sgt. Burns: Actually, it is one and a half. We are
budgeted for two.
Mayor Ferre: Okay, but I think for us to objectively look
at the budget, you have to put that into it, because, that
is a contribution that the City is making to this program.
Unidentified Speaker: It was my understanding when we asked
for this resolution that the salaries would not be included.
Mayor Ferre: Somebody has got to pay the salaries. I am
sure you want to be paid!
Mr. Plummer: Can't pay it from this fund.
Mayor Ferre: I realize that, but the point is that that
police officer's time is being allocated here and to have a
proper expense, you need to recognize that it isn't $44,000.
It is $44,000 plus salaries - the cost of the police
officers.
Mr. Pereira: Let me answer that. I believe that the reason
why it is not included is because what we are asking is is
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to make an allocatinn out of the Law Enforcement Trust
Fund, rather than an allocation nut of the General Fund and
your point is well taken that that is a contributinn.
Mayor Ferre: Sergio, the paint is, hnw much is it costing
the taxpayers of Miami to have this program function -
roughly, everything included?
Sgt. Burns: Actually, the last cost analysis that he did
was approximately $100,000. That is including salaries.
Mayor Ferre: All right now, I don't mean to pull a Ronald
Reagan on you, and I am not going to use the limousine
example, but how many people are being served by that
$100,000?
Sgt. Burns: We have 1,300 youths come through the program.
We have actively 300 youths.
Mayor Ferre: That is cumulative. You are talking about
$100,000 per year. In a one year period of time, how many
kids are going to be benefited by this?
Sgt. Burns Actively participating in the program, 300.
1,300 came to the program last year.
Mayor Ferre: That is not bad. If it is 300, I am
satisfied. That is fine.
Mr. Plummer: I move Item 46.
Mayor Ferre: All right, one more question, J. L., before -
boxing trips - 32,000?
Sgt. Burns: Yes, sir.
Mayor Ferre: Now, what is that? Is that air fare, hotel,
food?
Sgt. Burns That is air fare, hotels, food, all the expenses.
Mayor Ferre: Where are we taking these trips tn? I hope we
are not going to ...
Sgt. Burns: If you look on the program that we put together
for you, sir, you see that a lot of these ... there are two
reasons for these trips. One, these kids in Overtown and
some of the adults have never stepped out of Overtown and
one of the purposes is to give them exposure ...
Mayor Ferre: Understand. I mean, these are the trips - St.
Louis, Missouri, St. Petersburg, Ft. Meyers, Jacksnnville,
Tennessee, North Carolina, Georgia, Colorado Springs.
Sgt. Burns: Yes, sir. That is it and speaking of Colorado
Springs we had the young man that ... we would just be going
there next year and that is the first step to making United
States Olympic Team, which we think is going to happen,
which of course will bring credit to the City of Miami.
These other tournaments are what happens if the young man
will win a tournament here and he advances. It is a
progression right to the U. S. Team.
Mayor Ferre: Okay, so if he makes it to the Nationals,
obviously we have gnt to pay his trip to Colorado.
Sgt. Burns: Yes, sir.
Mayor Ferre:
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Sgt. Burns: If they make U. S. Team, hopefully the
Olympics.
Mayor Ferre: I've got it. Let me ask you one last question.
Is there any way we could use the monies that comes from
confiscation of drugs. I heard Chief Dickson say this
morning that we have confiscated $5,000. Can we apply some
of those monies to this? I think it would be poetic
justice.
Mr. Plummer: No, sir.
Mayor Ferre: No?
Mr. Plummer: No, you can't. That is for capital
improvements for law enforcement officers.
Mayor Ferre: I've got it. Okay, anything else? Plummer
moves, is there a second?
Mr. Carollo: Second.
Mayor Ferre: Carollo seconds. Anything else? Call the
roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner
Plummer, who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 85-479
A RESOLUTION ALLOCATING FUNDING NOT TO
EXCEED FORTY-FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS
($45,000) FROM THE CITY OF MIAMI LAW
ENFORCEMENT TRUST FUND TO COVER
NECESSARY EXPENSES INCURRED BY THE MIAMI
POLICE OVERTOWN ATHLETIC PROGRAM.
(Here follows body of resolution,
omitted here and on file in the Office
of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Carollo, the
resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
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25. ACCEPT COMPLETED WORK - LYNWOOD SANITARY SEWER
IMPROVEMENT SR-5487 CAS PLUS ADDITIVE BIDS "E" AND "F".
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Mayor Ferre: This is accepting the completed work of Joe
Reinertson Equipment - Item 54, public hearings at 3:30 P.M.
Lynwood Sanitary. Is there anybody here who wishes to speak
to Item 54? Let the record reflect that nobody stood up.
Plummer moves Item 54. Is there a second?
Mr. Perez: Second.
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Mayor Ferre: Further discussion? Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner
Plummer, who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 85=480
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE COMPLETED
WORK OF JOE REINERTSON EQUIPMENT CO. AT
A TOTAL COST OF $789,774.79 FOR LYNWOOD
SANITARY SEWER IMPROVEMENT (BIDS E, F.
t PLUS ADDITIVE BIDS E. F) IN LYNWOOD
SANITARY SEWER IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT -
SR-5487 CAS (CENTERLINE AND SIDELINE
SEWERS); AND AUTHORIZING A FINAL PAYMENT
OF $739577.48.
(Here follows body of resolution,
omitted here and on file in the Office
of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Perez, the
resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote-
.
AYES: Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
a Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
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26. CONFIRM PRELIMINARY ASSESSMENT ROLLS: KOUBEK SANITARY
S SEWER IMPROVEMENT SR-5477-C.
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Mayor Ferre: Does anybody who wishes to speak on Item 55 or
56? If not, is there a motion on 55?
Mr. Dawkins: Mr. Mayor ...
Mayor Ferre: Yes, sir.
Mr. Dawkins: I am going to continue 55 and 56.
Mayor Ferre: There is a motion ...
Mr. Dawkins: The reason I am doing it, Mr.
Manager is, I
constantly sit here and see you bring up bids
for everything
but the police station, so I am going to continue
everything
in here that has anything to do with the bid
until you can
assure me that we are going to get a police station, sir.
Mr. Plummer: Sub -station.
Mr. Dawkins: Police sub -station.
Mr. Pereira: Mr. Mayor, if I may answer.
For our next
Commission meeting, Commissioner Dawkins,
we will be
bringing to you for approval the phasing in
of the sub-
station, the program and the staffing costs
for the next
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five years. We also will be bringing to
you for your
consideration and approval, the sites for those two sub-
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stations, one in the Latin community and one in the Black
community, and that certainly will trigger our ability to
be able to go out with an RFP ... as a matter of fact, the
RFP has been advertised and proposals have been received for
the architects. The reason we have not moved into that,
obviously, is because we had not brought back to you the two
items that I mentioned earlier. The reason, as you know,
there was a concern with the costs as proposed the first
time by staff and also there were some questimns raised in
one of the sites. We are preparing ... we will be prepared
for the next Commission meeting tri bring those items for
your approval.
Mr. Dawkins: Can you bring me the architects for the two
sites also, sir?
Mr. Pereira: I don't know if we can convene the committee
that made the selection. Let me turn around a minute.
(INAUDIBLE BACKGROUND COMMENTS)
Mr. Pereira: I am not gaming to make a commitment,
Commissioner, because I really don't know. We will try, but
I cannot ... I can't make that commitment. We will try to
• convene the committee and go through the selection process,
but I am afraid that there are some dates and some times
that we have to establish according with our selection
ordinance and that might not be possible, but definitely we
will bring to you the two recommendations for the site, as
well as for the staffing of the two sub -stations.
Mr. Dawkins: Mr. Mayor, I withdraw my opposition.
Mr. Plummer: I move 55.
Mayor Ferre: Is there a second?
Mr. Carollo: Second.
Mayor Ferre: Further discussion? Call the roll on Item 55.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner
Plummer, who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 85-481
A RESOLUTION CONFIRMING ASSESSMENT ROLL
FOR CONSTRUCTION OF KOUBEK SANITARY
SEWER IMPROVEMENT IN KOUBEK SANITARY
SEWER IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT SR-5477-C
(CENTERLINE SEWER) AND REMOVING ALL
i PENDING LIENS FOR THIS IMPROVEMENT NOT
t HEREBY CERTIFIED.
(Here follows body of resolution,
omitted here and on file in the Office
of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Carollo, the
resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
.,' Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
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ABSENT: None.
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Mayor Ferre: Let the record reflect that nobody rose on
Item 55.
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27. CONFIRM PRELIMINARY ASSESSMENTS ROLLS: KOUBEK SANITARY
SEWER IMPROVEMENT SR-5477-S6
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Mayor Ferre: Let the record reflect that nobody rose on
Item 56. Is there a motion on 56?
Mr. Carollo: Moved.
Mayor Ferre: Moved by Carollo. Seconded by Plummer.
Further discussion? Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner
Carollo, who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 85-482
A RESOLUTION CONFIRMING ASSESSMENT ROLL FOR
CONSTRUCTION OF KOUBEK SANITARY SEWER
IMPROVEMENT IN KOUBEK SANITARY SEWER
IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT SR-5477-S (SIDELINE
SEWER) AND REMOVING ALL PENDING LIENS FOR
THIS IMPROVEMENT NOT HEREBY CERTIFIED.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here
and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the
resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
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28. ALLOCATE $29000 IN SUPPORT OF TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO FOR
CARIBBEAN CULTURAL PROGRAM - GUSMAN CULTURAL CENTER MAY
24.
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Mr. Pereira: Mr. Mayor, I believe there are a couple of
people here on some recommendations for funding requests
that have been made to the Commission in previous meetings
and your Administration is prepared to make some
recommendations, sir.
Mayor Ferre: All right, go right ahead.
Mr. Plummer: Such as?
Mr. Pereira: Such as the Trinidad/Tobago organizers. If
you recall, this is just ... they wanted us to waive to fee
of Gusman Hall for the Trinidad/Tobago Festival, if you
recall. This is an item that came to you at the previous
meeting and you asked us to come back and review and make a
report to you. We are recommending at this point the
request to cover the cost of Gusman Hall, which is $2,000.
Iro
Mr. Plummer: You are recommending it? I move it.
Mayor Ferre: Is there a second?
Mr. Dawkins: Second.
Mayor Ferre: Further discussion? Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner
Plummer, who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 85-483
A RESOLUTION ALLOCATING $2,000 FROM SPECIAL
PROGRAMS AND ACCOUNTS, CONTINGENT FUND, IN
SUPPORT OF THE TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO
ORGANIZERS FOR A CARIBBEAN CULTURAL PROGRAM
TO BE HELD AT THE GUSMAN CULTURAL CENTER ON
MAY 24, 1985; SAID ALLOCATION BEING
CONDITIONED UPON SUBSTANTIAL COMPLIANCE WITH
CITY OF MIAMI ADMINISTRATIVE POLICY NO. APM-
2-84, DATED JANUARY 24, 1984.
1
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here
and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Dawkins, the
resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Demetrin Perez, Jr.
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29. ALLOCATE $12,000 IN CONNECTION WITH HOLDING OF MCARICOM
CONFERENCE" WITH CONDITIONS.
Mr. Pereira: We also had the South Florida Business League
Caricom Conference come before you and made a request of
$120000. We are recommending approval contingent upon they
prove that sufficient funds will be raised to cover the cost
of the event at this time.
} Mayor Ferre: Is there a motion?
Mr. Carollo: So moved.
Mr. Plummer: Second.
Mayor Ferre: It has been moved and seconded. Further
discussion? Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner
Carollo, who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 85-484
A RESOLUTION ALLOCATING AN AMOUNT NOT TO
EXCEED $12,000 FROM THE SPECIAL PROGRAMS AND
ACCOUNTS, CONTINGENT FUND IN SUPPORT OF THE
WEEKEND CONFERENCE ON CARICOM TO BE
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4.
SPONSORED BY THE SOUTH FLORIDA BUSINESS
LEAGUE AND HELD ON MAY 24 AND 259 1985; SAID
ALLOCATION BEING CONDITIONED UPON
METROPOLITAN DADE COUNTY AND THE PRIVATE
SECTOR EACH CONTRIBUTING SPECIFIED AMOUNTS
TOWARD THIS EVENT AND UPON SUBSTANTIAL
COMPLIANCE WITH CITY OF MIAMI ADMINISTRATIVE
POLICY NO. APM-1-84, DATED JANUARY 240 1984.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here
and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the
resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote-
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
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30. ALLOCATE $79000 IN SUPPORT OF ASSOCIATION OF LATIN
AMERICAN ART AND CULTURE IN., COCONUT GROVE EXHIBITION
CENTER FOR EVENT MAY 24-26, 1985.
Mr. Pereira: The Association of Latin American Cultures
made a request of $15,000. Our recommendation is for
approval of $7,000 only to cover the cost of using the
Coconut Grove Exhibition Center be granted.
Mr. Plummer: Moved.
Mayor Ferre: All right, is there a second?
Mr. Dawkins: Second.
Mayor Ferre: Further discussion? All right, call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner
Plummer, who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 85-485
A RESOLUTION ALLOCATING AN AMOUNT NOT TO
EXCEED $7,000 FROM SPECIAL PROGRAMS AND
ACCOUNTS, CONTINGENT FUND, IN SUPPORT OF THE
ASSOCIATION OF LATIN AMERICAN ART AND
CULTURE, INC., TO COVER THE COST ASSOCIATED
WITH RENTING THE COCONUT GROVE EXHIBITION
CENTER FOR A THREE-DAY CHILDREN'S FESTIVAL
TO BE HELD MAY 24-260 1985; SAID ALLOCATION
BEING CONDITIONED UPON SUBSTANTIAL
COMPLIANCE WITH CITY OF MIAMI ADMINISTRATIVE
POLICY NO. APM-1-849 DATED JANUARY 24, 1984.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here
and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Dawkins, the
resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
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May 9, 1985
Vice -Mayer Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Manager, I hope you are informing all of
these people that they are getting the grant this year, but
there is no money available next. Are you so notifying
them?
Mr. Pereira: We have notified everybody. We are telling
everybody who is coming here and we will be coming back to
you in the very near future with some thoughts on ...
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31. AMEND CONTRACT AGREEMENT WITH SMALL BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY
CENTER INC. FROM $379750 TO $46,000 CONTINUING
NEIGHBORHOOD ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM IN LITTLE
HAVANA COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.
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Mr. Pereira: The
S.B.O.C., they have asked
for an increase
in their 1984-185
C.D. allocation by $89250.
After meeting
with them, we have
come to the agreement of
$6,254 funding.
That is the Small
Business Opportunity Center. That is the
Latin Chamber of Commerce.
Mr. Plummer: How much did they ask for?
Mr. Pereira: They
asked for $8,250 out of the 1984-185 C.D.
allocation, and we
have met with the agency
and broke that
down to $6,254.
Mr. Plummer: I make a motion that we pass $8,250.
Mayor Ferre: Is there a second?
Mr. Carollo: Second.
Mayor Ferre: Further discussion? Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner
Plummer, who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 85-486
A RESOLUTION TO AMEND THE CONTRACT AGREEMENT
—
WITH THE SMALL BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY CENTER,
INC. IN A FORM ACCEPTABLE TO THE CITY
ATTORNEY TO INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF FUNDS
PROVIDED UNDER THE 10TH YEAR COMMUNITY
DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT FROM $37,750.00 TO
$46,000.00 FOR THE PURPOSE OF CONTINUING A
NEIGHBORHOOD ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM IN
THE LITTLE HAVANA COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here
and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
:r.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Carollo, the
resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
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Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
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NOES:
None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
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32. ALLOCATE $79,170 IN SUPPORT OF "SEND A KID TO CAMP
PROGRAM"
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} Mr. Pereira: One last item - Anne Marie Adker had asked for
special approval for a program sending kids to camp - asked
for $10,200. We are recommending funding at the same level
last year, which was $7,270.
Mayor Ferre: Is there a motion?
Mr. Dawkins: I move it.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I second the motion with the full
understanding that these people fully understand that next
year there are no dollars.
Mayor Ferre: Further discussion? Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner
Dawkins, who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 85-487
A RESOLUTION ALLOCATING AN AMOUNT NOT TO
EXCEED $79270 FROM SPECIAL PROGRAMS AND
ACCOUNTS, CONTINGENT FUND, TO SEND
DISADVANTAGED YOUTH TO SUMMER CAMP IN
LAKE PLACID, FLORIDA, JUNE 23 - AUGUST
24, 2985; SAID ALLOCATION BEING
CONDITIONED UPON SUBSTANTIAL COMPLIANCE
WITH CITY OF MIAMI ADMINISTRATIVE POLICY
NO. APM-1-84, DATED JANUARY 24, 1985.
(Here foll-)ws body of resolution,
omitted here and on file in the Office
of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the
resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote-
AYES: Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
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33. DISCUSSION OF LUMMUS PARK.
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Mayor Ferre: On personal appearances, we are running 20
minutes ahead, but if Margaret Miller is here, I will take
her up. All right, Margaret Miller? This is Item 57.
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Ms. Margaret Miller: First I want to thank you for
permitting me to come here today to speak. I want to talk
to you about that section of Downtown Miami that lies
between the expressway and the Miami River, and is sometimes
referred to as the Lummus Park area. And it might be
helpful for terms of this discussion to remind ourselves
that downtown Miami lies between two natural resources the
Bay and the River, and not in between the Bay and the
Expressway. At this time, and lacking developmental plans
for the area, its future is exceedingly questionable. On
the one hand, your hopes go up when you find that Governor
Graham created the Miami River Management Committee to clean
up and restore the Miami River and the areas immediately
adjacent surrounding its banks. The committee worked
diligently and submitted a splendid and detailed report to
the Governor in December, 1984. In the report, the
committee recommended modest proposals for that area that
would greatly enhance that Lummus Park area. On the other
hand, your hopes are dashed when you learn that there are
forces at work to bring to the area what on Channel 17, was
termed the "street people". In their recent presentation we
learned that hundreds who have converged on that area were
characterized as unemployed drifters, drug and alcohol
abusers, and those who had been released from mental
institutions. The generally run down appearance of that
area invite that kind youth. So that we have some sense of
direction as to where we are headed there, I am asking you
today to set up a developmental study and that it be
instituted at this time, giving due consideration to the
recommendations set forth by the Miami River Management
Committee, and I thank you.
Mayor Ferre: Ms. Miller, I want to commend you as a citizen
for taking your time to come here and discuss that important
subject. I think I am in full accord with what you have
stated and I thank you for your interest and we will see
what the Administration and the rest of the Commission say
on this.
Mr. Rodriguez: My staff has been in contact with Ms.
Miller, and we have explained that this is an area which is
part of the master plan for downtown, and we are going to be
addressing it specifically - all the issues that are in this
area, which we think are very important. There have been
some concern about the Lummus Park area is also included
yes - up to the river. There has been some concern, as Ms.
Miller expressed, about the move of one of the Camillus
House basically to this area, but we haven't received any
zoning applications requests in that area that she is
mentioning to support that.
Mayor Ferre: Let me tell you that I would be opposed to
that. I think Ms. Miller is absolutely right. Ms. Miller,
as long as we have citizens like you that are willing to
speak up, then this City is going to be all right, and I
thank you. Does anybody else want to add anything to this?
All right, thank you.
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34. PROCEED WITH PREPARATION OF R.F.P. IN CONNECTION WITH
UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM FOR REDEVELOPMENT OF OLYMPIA
BUILDING; APPROVE MEMBERS OF SELECTION COMMITTEE,
EXTERNAL AUDITORS.
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Mayer Ferre: Item "B" is Olympia Building.
were the one who objected to this before.
Miller, you
ld 74 May 9, 1985
Mr. Dawkins: I dnn't have any more problems.
Mayor Ferre: Is there a motion then, on Item "B"?
Mr. Carolln: If Miller will make the motion, 1 will second
it.
Mr. Plummer: Well first there is a discussion with the
item. What is the motion for?
Mayor Ferre: This is the approval for them to continue ...
Mr. Plummer: That is not ... no, sir, I am sorry. This
says this is a discussion. There is no item to be a
motion to be made on.
Mayor Ferre: If I remember, J. L., there was a motion and
we were about to vote on it and Miller requested further
information.
Mr. Plummer: No, that is the record for the Lnwenbrau
production.
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Mayor Ferre: No, no, sir. This was at the last Commission
meeting - the Olympia office building redevelopment - it was
presented by ...
Mr. Plummer: It is not on the R.F.P. I am sorry - I stand
.
corrected, sir.
'
Mayor Ferre: All right now, there is a motion by Dawkins.
Mr. Plummer: I will second it to go out with the R.F.P.
Mayor Ferre: And is there further discussion on this as
presented?
Mr. Plummer: The only discussion I have is, Mr. Carlton,
how do you get a nickel in a parking meter for six minutes?
I went to lunch today, Mr. Carlton, and it took six
quarters, which very few people really carry to pay to the
meters of my parking!
(INAUDIBLE BACKGROUND COMMENTS)
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Mayor Ferre: All right, we are now on Item "B". We are
about to vote on it. Is there any further discussion on it?
"B" - the Olympia building.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I think it would be only
appropriate if they send each member of the Commission a
copy of the R.F.P. so that we can run over it.
Mr. Carlton: Our intention is next month to bring you the
_
R.F.P. for your approval and the selection of the committee
and the external auditor and all of those things that are
required.
Mr. Carollo: Roger, how are we doing on those meters?
Mr. Carlton: Which ones this time?
Mr. Carrillo: The ones that need to come down!
Mr. Carlton: Commissioner, we would be glad to meet with
you and talk about any of those, if you wish.
Mr. Carollo: Well, I believe my representatives have, so
...Mr. Pereira.
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Mr. Carlton: I believe we have a meeting scheduled and we
will talk about any of those that you wish to talk about,
sir.
Mayor Ferre: All right, are you ready? Call the roll on
nBn
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner
Dawkins, who moved its adoption:
MOTION NO. 85-488
A MOTION INSTRUCTING THE CITY MANAGER TO
IMMEDIATELY PROCEED WITH THE PREPARATION
OF R.F.P.'S IN CONNECTION WITH THE
UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM FOR
REDEVELOPMENT OF THE OLYMPIA BUILDING;
FURTHER DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO
BRING BACK THE R.F.P.'S FOR COMMISSION
APPROVAL AS WELL AS TO FORMALIZE
COMMISSION APPROVAL OF THE MEMBERS OF
a THE SELECTION COMMITTEE AND FOR
SELECTION OF THE EXTERNAL AUDITORS.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the motion
was passed and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
{ Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
Mr. Dawkins: Before we move to the next item -
Mayor Ferre: Yes, sir.
Mr. Dawkins: Madam City Attorney, can you prepare me a
resolution stating that ... what do we have that deals with
this Unified Development Plan - committee or board?
q4.
Mrs. Dougherty: It is a committee that gets selected for
each project.
Mr. Dawkins: Draw me up a resolution that states that this
;1
committee must be representatives of the community. If it
is 57% Latin, then it has to be 57% Latin. If it is 37%
Black, it has to be 37% Black, and whatever the other
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percentages are.
Mr. Carollo: Not only that, Miller, but they must live in
the City of Miami limits.
Mr. Dawkins: I accept that as another part of their charge
F
Mr. Plummer: Let me suggest that you might want to modify
that to "live or work in". I am just suggesting that,
p�wF-
because sometimes you get a problem.
Mr. Carollo: J. L., that is where we are having a lot of
problems. A lot of people like to make their money in the
City of Miami, but they don't like to spend it or live with
us here in the City of Miami.
Mr. Plummer: Okay, I am just ...
Id 76 May 9, 1985
Mr. Carollo: Then they want to dictate to us how to run the
City from groward County or extreme South Dade, or somewhere
else.
Mr. Plummer: Okay. I just offered it for consideration.
Mr. Dawkins: Can you prepare that for me for the next
meeting, please?
Mrs. Dougherty: Yes, sir.
Mr. Dawkins: Thank you.
Mrs. Dougherty: Would you prefer that to be an ordinance
amending the U.D.P.
Mr. Dawkins: Yes. Whatever it takes so we can bring it in
and pass it at the same time so that when we go out with the
next R.F.P., the individuals selected to evaluate it will be
a makeup as to general population of the City of Miami.
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35. ESTABLISH POLICY IN CONNECTION WITH MIAMI CENTER I
DEVELOPMENT THAT NO PERMANENT CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY
SHALL BE ISSUED UNTIL JUNE 13, 19859 PENDING FURTHER
ACTION.
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Mayor Ferre: All right, we are now on Item "C", temporary
Certificate of Occupancy for Miami Center Development I. Mr.
Manager?
Mr. Carollo: Mr. Manager ...
Mr. Pereira: Yes, sir.
Mr. Carollo: If I can, I received a letter here today from
the Downtown Development Authority, signed by Mr. Roy F.
Kenzie, Executive Director and he states here that there is
a commitment on the part of Mr. Theodore B. Gould to
construct a portion of the park inside of the Miami Center
Project. This construction, depending on how undertaken,
will cost between $?50,000 to $1,000,000. At present, we
cannot be sure of the Gould construction, since the project
is in Chapter 11 proceedings. However, we would expect Mr.
Gould or future owners to live up to the previous
commitment. Is this correct that we do have that commitment
for that? And if so, what happened to it - the same thing
that happened to the $10,000,000 that we were promised
something else?
Mr. Pereira: If you recall, that issue was brought to the
table by Commissioner Plummer at the last meeting.
Mr. Carollo: Well, I am only bring it up because Mr. Kenzie
brought this up to me in this letter today.
Mr. Pereira: If you are asking if we have that in writing -
the question Commissioner Plummer asked was whether that was
directed us to go and look at the minutes and try to
find out if that statement, in fact, was being made. My
understanding is late this morning, was that we had not been
able to find that clarity on the record. Now, what is it
that we have on the record that deals with the subject
Walter?
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Mr. Carollo: Tnen, what you are saying to me that this
statement that Mr. Kenzie represented to me in this letter
is like most of the other statements that he has been making
and the figures he has been using.... pretty hollow.
Mr. Pereira: No, no, I ...
Mr. Carollo: Pretty hollow and shallow.
Mr. Pereira: The statement ... Commissioner Plummer, who
has a pretty good memory, you know, remembers very, very
vividly that that statement was made on the record. Now, we
a
have not been able to find on the record - we have some
language on the record that ... Walter, one of you read what
was there and ...
Mr. Plummer: Well, let me even better refresh your memory.
Mr. Gould, or his representative came before this Commission
and asked permission to tear down the old amphitheater. At
such time as they did, they wanted to use that for the
x
purposes of construction of the new building. At that time,
a
they indicated to this Commission that we so allowed that,
that a number of things would be done, including using
parking across the street in the Dupont Plaza lets.
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Mayor Ferre: That's right.
Mr. Plummer: And as well, they would make a healthy
donation, fully understood that it would be a donation to
enhance that end of the park that faced their properties.
Mayor Ferre: Right.
Mr. Plummer: That was what this recollection remembers.
Mr. Walter Pierce: What we have been able to find on the
record is no statement that says specifically by Mr. Gould
that he will donate any monies to the City to build that
fountain. There are statements in there that other people
are making that Mr. Gould has made such commitments, but
there is no language that says that he says he will do it.
Mr. Carollo: Who were the other people?
Mr. Pierce:
The Mayor was one. He
made a statement
to that
effect.
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Mayor Ferre: y
Yes, I was just going to say on the
record,
that Mr. Gould specifically stated
to me and at the
D.D.A.
that it was
his intention to pay
for a major improvement.
At first Mr.
Gould did not want
to pay for the
Noguchi
design.
uF Mr. Plummer: Excuse me, Mr. Mayor, may I interrupt?
Mayor Ferre: Yes, well let me finish!
Mr. Plummer: Well, I think I can answer for you here. All
right sir, reading from the minutes of July 22, 1982 - I
read to you that Mr. Kenzie stated at that time - "This end
X is the play mountain area which includes a smaller
s performance area, restrooms, plazas, small cafes, sculptured
gardens, a water feature, waterfall, and number of other
improvements. In this portion of the project, you have a
`- letter in your file from Mr. Gould, who has indicated his
willingness to provide the construction materials and
construct this portion of the park.
Mr. Pierce: You are right.
to is dated ...
The letter that he is referring
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May 9, 1985
Mayor Ferre: That is enough ... it seems to me that is
enough of a commitment, isn't it?
Mr. Pierce: Well, Mr. Mayor ...
Mr. Plummer: Well, 1 don't think it was committed. I think
it was in a letter and not in the minuttes, that is what I
am trying to tell you.
Mr. Pierce: Mr. Plummer, the letter that is being referred
to - the only letter that we could find is a letter dated
July 1, 1981, which was originally signed and agreed to by
the former City Manager and Mr. Gould, which was an
agreement a letter agreement having to do with the short
term rental of the bandshell area to be used as a
construction staging area so that Mr. Gould would not close
down the parking lots in block "Z" block the Dupont Plaza.
Mayor Ferre: Hold on, I've got Roy Kenzie. He has the
letter in his hand for the record.
Mr. Plummer: That is fine.
Mayor Ferre: Roy?
Mr. Roy Kenzie: Yes.
Mayor Ferre: Read it into the record.
Mr. Kenzie: Okay. This is a letter from Mr. Gould to Mayor
Ferre dated July 20, 1982. It says:
"I have recently reviewed the most current Noguchi
design for Bayfront Park and in general agree with the
overall plans, including the moving or removal of the
existing library building. This letter is to inform
you that I am prepared to provide the materials and to
construct that portion of the Noguchi design adjacent
to Chopin Plaza in the south end of the park. However,
this commitment to provide materials and construction
is contingent upon the City moving forward with this
plan to redevelop Bayfront Park and some modifications
to the performance plaza at the south end of the park;
which modifications would be subject to our mutual
agreement and approval, but in essence I am prepared to
provide the materials and to construct that portion of
the Noguchi design adjacent to Chopin Plaza at the
south end of the park."
Mayor Ferre: All right, I don't think there is any question
but that there is a firm commitment in writing and Roy
Kenzie just read the letter into the record, so in other
words, there is a firm commitment from Gould in writing that
he was to do that. There is no question about that.
Mr. Plummer: Yes, now let's talk to point ...
Mr. Carollo: Well, what are we to do then? I mean, all of
these people making firm commitments to us for years and
years, but nothing in the bank. I mean, that is what, a
four year old letter?
Mr. Plummer: Well, we do have $21,000 in the banks
Mr. Carollo: What?
Mr. Plummer: We do have $21,000 out of $22,0009000. Mr.
Mayor, there was a second portion to that. The second
portion to that was that Mr. Gould is bound by the
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development order as it relates to Center I and to the
improvements at the People Mover, and how much is that for
the record?
Mr. Pereira: Half million dollars.
Mr. Plummer: A half million dollars. He is committed to
that by the development order, not by us! So, what I am
looking at is that Miami Center, before they get their C.O.
in indebted to live up to those obligations of the
development order alone, or they cannot receive their C.O.
Now, my problem is, the Administration is recommending an
additional 60 day temporary C.O. There are in fact, safety
obligations in that temporary C.O. For example, the ducts
for the fire ventilation.
Mayor Ferre: Make your motion.
Mr. Plummer: That is a safety problem. I am saying to you
that I don't think ... we have already given them what,
Walter - 18 months?
Mr. Pierce: Approximately 14 to 18 months.
Mr. Plummer: They have operated on it 18 months? 14 to 18
months - as far as I am concerned, you know, they have had
that much time. Give them 30 days, put everybody on notice
that if they don't live up to their obligations, so be it!
Mayor Ferre:
Well,
what is
your
motion?
Mr. Plummer:
I am
just one.
I
am expressing my opinion.
Mayor Ferre: What is the will of this Commission on this
item? Mr. Manager, do you want to add anything to it?
Mr. Plummer: Yes, they had all kinds of pleasant things to
say about the Administration as well as the individuals
involved.
Mr. Pierce: We really love each other!
Mr. Pereira: We had, I conuened a meeting of the staff to
be working on this issue in order to get familiarized with
what is happening and there is no question that the City and
the Administration have tried to work with the developer in
trying to achieve the corrections that are needed, which by
the way, as Commissioner Plummer stated, are safety related,
but you know, let it be known that they are not terribly
expensive, and the four item, they can be taken care of with
not much expenditures. We came up ... the staff
recommendations ...
Mr. Plummer: Whoa! The fifth item ...
Mr. Pereira: Yes, the fifth item - those things are related
to actual construction, which are four, if I recall
correctly. The fifth item, which is tied to development
order, which is $500,000 for those things that were
mentioned by you, which is a big ticket item, is a half
million dollars. We, the staff recommended 60 days in order
to Number one, be able to resolve the issues and also to
give, if in fact they are not going to be done, that ample
time for notices to tenants, you know, could be achieved.
Our position is that if is not done in 60 day then we will
move to take whatever steps are necessary to close the
this.
Mr. Dawkins: Mr. Manager, in the event that you grant the
60 day extension and Mr. Gould is already in Chapter 11, and
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for some of those safety violations that Mr. Plummer alluded
to, someone is hurt and sued the City and Gould, and Gould
is in Chapter 11, who is responsible?
Mr. Pereira: I'm asking the City Attorney to address this.
Mrs. Dougherty: You are talking about if someone were to be
hurt as a result of our not enforcing the safety
regulations, is that correct? Based on the new decision
that just came out Trianon vs. City of Hialeah, the City
wouldn't have any liability.
Mayor Ferre: Would not have any?
Mrs. Dougherty: Would not. I don't know if I told you
this, but based on that negligent inspection case that went
to ... Hialeah lost, based on some condominiums and then it
went to the Supreme Court of the State of Florida and it was
reversed and the City of Hialeah won, and based on that kind
of discretionary function on the City, it is the lack of
enforcement.
Mr. Plummer: No, no, excuse me. That was not his question.
Speaking to the collective liability law presently before
this state, if an award is given by negligence against him
and against the City - he is not able to pay - what he is
saying is the City might have to pay both.
Mrs. Dougherty: That is right, but what I am saying to you
is for negligent inspection the City is no longer liable.
Mr. Dawkins: But it is not a negligent inspection. We have
already said the City, according to the Manager - the
Manager has just admitted that if an unsafe building - and
we are giving a temporary certificate to an unsafe building!
Mr. Dougherty: Mr. Commissioner, the City Manager may not
give a temporary C.O. He has to certify, or the building
inspector has to certify that all of the safety objects are
met - they can't give a temporary C.O. to an unsafe
building.
Mr. Dawkins: Okay, no problem! But, I mean, they will sue
the City, not the Commissioners, right?
Mrs. Dougherty: That is right.
Mayor Ferre: I will express my opinion. Mr. Manager, do
you recommend this?
Mr. Pereira: I am recommending it, yes, sir.
Mayor Ferre: In your opinion this is in the best interest
of the City?
Mr. Pereira: I think all things taken into consideration, I
think it is in our best interests to try to resolve this
within the next 60 days.
Mayor Ferre: All right, my vote will be in support of the
Administration.
Mr. Plummer: Question, what happens if Mr. Gould sells
within the next 60 days?
Mr. Pereira: Well, the new owners would have to assume that
responsibility within the same period of time that we have
stipulated.
Mr. Plummer: W...it if they don't?
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Mr. Pereira: Then we will close the building.
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Mr. Pereira: Try me.
Mr. Dawkins: I think this would be the first one of your
professional advices that I have voted against!
Mayor Ferret All right, what is the will of the Commission?
Make your motions.
Mr. Carollo: Madam City Attorney, would it place us in a
more sound legal standing if we were to advertise this
liability on his part? In case he does sell within that
time that the new orders wouldn't be legally placed
unnoticed.
Mrs. Dougherty: I believe the development order probably is
in the public records, but we will check to make sure that
some method of notice is.
Mayor Ferre: All right, again what is the will of this
Commission?
Mr. Carollo: I guess this includes both the hotel and the
office building?
Mr. Pereira: You know, the area ...
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I will make a recommendation. I
make the recommendation that we give him 30 days to comply
and that at the end of 30 days ... well, excuse me. We give
him until the 13th of June.
Mayor Ferre: There is a motion. Is there a second?
Mr. Carollo: Second.
Mayor Ferre: Further discussion? Call the roll.
Mr. Pereira: Hold it a minute.
Mr. Plummer: What, do you have a problem?
Mr. Pereira: Lucia has, I think.
Mr. Plummer: Do you have a problem.?
Mrs. Dougherty: All I am saying is it is within the
discretion of the building official, not the City Commission
whether or not they issue ...
Mr. Plummer: New motion. Scratch the last. The policy of
this Commission, that a permanent C. 0. not be granted until
the 13th of June at such time as this Commission will have
the right to review.
Mayor Ferre: Is there a second to that motion? Is there a
second to the motion? Are you still seconding?
Mr. Carollo: Certainly. Same thing, different time.
Mayor Ferre: Carollo seconds. Further discussion? Call
the roll.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner
Plummer, who moved its adoption:
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MOTION NO. 85=489
A MOTION ESTABLISHING THE POLICY OF THE
CITY COMMISSION THAT IN CONNECTION WITH
MIAMI CENTER I DEVELOPMENT, THAT A
PERMANENT CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY SHALL
NOT BE GRANTED UNTIL JUNE 139 1985, AT
WHICH TIME THE CITY COMMISSION WILL HAVE
THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THIS ISSUE;
FURTHER DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO
NOTIFY ALL INTERESTED PERSONS OF THIS
ACTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION STRESSING
THAT IF BY JUNE 13TH NO EARNEST EFFORT
HAS BEEN MADE TO COMPLY WITH THE CITY'S
REQUIREMENTS, IT SHALL BE WITHIN THE
CITY COMMISSION'S POWER TO COMPLETELY
CLOSE DOWN BOTH BUILDINGS.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Carollo, the motion
was passed and adopted by the following vnte—
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AYES: Commissioner Demetrin Perez, Jr.
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
Mr. Plummer: That, Mr. Mayor, does carry with it, Mr.
Manager that you shall so notify the owners, whoever they
may be, or the bankruptcy court, whoever they may be, of the
action of this Commission today, that at possibly on the
meeting of June 13th, that if an honest effort of
compliance, or compliance itself is not met, that this
Commission is empowered to completely close the buildings.
We are not saying we are going to, but you put them on
notice that that is within the power.
36. ACCEPT ADMINISTRATION'S RECOMMENDATION FOR ACQUISITION
OF HIGHLAND PARK SITE FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND
INSTRUCT MANAGER TO ASSEMBLE STATISTICAL INFORMATION
REGARDING ACQUISITION OF THE P.B.A. SITE.
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Mayor Ferre: We are now on Agenda Item "F", Highland Park
site for affordable housing. Yes, sir.
Mr. Pereira: I believe that we distributed to you a
resolution where we are requesting Metropolitan Dade County
to act on behalf of the City of Miami to acquire the
Highland Park site on a quick take procedure.
Mayor Ferre: All right, with regards to Highland Park - we
will get to the P.B.A. site in a moment.
Mr. Pereira: We will get to that next.
Mayor Ferre: Is there a motion on Highland Park?
Mr. Dawkins: I move it.
Mr. Carolln: Second.
Mayor Ferre: There is a motion that we follow the
recommendations on Highland Park - Item "F", seconded by
Carollo. Further discussion? Call the roll.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner
Dawkins, who moved its adoption:
MOTION NO. 85-490
A MOTION ACCEPTING THE ADMINISTRATION'S
RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE ACQUISITION OF
THE HIGHLAND PARK SITE FOR THE
AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROGRAM, AS MORE
FULLY OUTLINED BEFORE THE CITY
COMMISSION ON THIS DATE.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Carolln, the motion
was passed and adopted by the following vote -
AYES:
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Commissioner Demetrin Perez, Jr.
84 May 9, 1985
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Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
Mayor Ferre: Now on the P.B.A. site.
Mr. Pereira: On the P.B.A. site, Mr. Mayor and members of
the Commission, we had been working with the P.B.A. My
understanding is that an offer was made which was rejected
by the Board of the P.B.A. Now the City Attorney will have
to address our next step, because as you know, there were
some complications when we tried to acquire this site in
court. Lucia.
Mrs. Dougherty: Yes, sir, Mr. Mayor and Commissioners. As
you recall, we tried to acquire both the Highland site and
the P.B.A. site. The court found, as a matter of law, the
P.B.A. site was not in a redevelopment area and hence we
could not condemn it because it wasn't slum and blighted.
Since that period of time, the State Legislature passed a
law which included affordable housing as a reason for
condemnation in the community redevelopment act. The County
Attorney, in consultation with my office yesterday says that
we still need to declare the area a community redevelopment
area, even though it is not slum and blighted, but for the
reason that we need affordable rental housing, so we need
some staff work on it - probably the same kind of resolution
would be appropriate to do everything necessary to condemn
the property immediately, but we are still going to have to
declare it a community redevelopment area and that is going
to take a longer period of time for the staff work.
Mayor Ferre: That requires an action of this Commission
right now. What do we need to do today to get it going?
Mrs. Dougherty: Direct the Administration to get the
statistics ready in order to declare it a ...
Mayor Ferre: To have a public hearing to declare it?
Mrs. Dougherty: A community redevelopment area, yes.
Mayor Ferre: A community redevelopment area. Is there such
a motion?
Mr. Dawkins: Moved.
Mr. Plummer: So moved.
Mayor Ferre: It has been moved and seconded. Is there
further discussion on the motion as read? Call the roll.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner
Dawkins, who moved its adoption:
MOTION NO. 85-491
A MOTION DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO
ASSEMBLE ALL THE NECESSARY STATISTICAL
INFORMATION AND TO ARRANGE FOR THE
NECESSARY PUBLIC HEARINGS TO BEGIN THE
PROCESS OF ACQUISITION OF THE P.B.A.
SITE FOR THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROGRAM.
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Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the motion
was passed and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
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COCONUT GROVE UPON PAYMENT OF EXPENSES IN ADVANCE, ETC.
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Mayor Ferre: All right, Mr. Eric Lawrence, South Florida
Gay Pride Committee.
Mr. Eric Lawrence: The South Florida Gay Pride Committee is
asking the Commission for a parade in Coconut Grove on June
30th.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Lawrence, there is a note here that the
Administration has already rented out Coconut Grove
Exhibition Center on June 30th, so it is not available.
Mr. Lawrence: What?
Mayor Ferre: It is rented.
Mr. Lawrence: We have rented the Exhibition Center on June
30th.
Mrs. Dougherty: It is rented to them.
Mr. Plummer: No, no, Maurice. It is rented to them.
Mayor Ferre: Oh, it is rented to you! Oh, I am sorry. The
City has already rented it. Okay, I am sorry. Go ahead.
Mr. Carollo: Mr. Manager ...
Mr. Pereira: What is the question.
Mr. Plummer: The question is about the parade. They are
Raying to rent - right? You made the rental of the
uditorium.
Mayor Ferre: What is the question before the Commission?
Mr. Plummer: The question is, as I recall, how much is it
going to be for sanitation. How much for police, how much
for in -kind services.
Mr. Pereira: The last ... and we checked this morning with
our staff. The solid waste cost is $400. The deposit has
not been received nor the Solid Waste Department been
contacted from the Committee after their original contact
which was back in early April. The same is with the Parks
Department - there was some communication. They have not
heard. The same goes for the cost of police, which is
$49156. None of those items which we indicated to Mr.
Lawrence last time, that he had to contact those City
departments and work out a deposit. Our understanding as
far as this morning - have you, between early this morning
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and now, visited those departments and made the appropriate
deposits? They have not been received.
Mayer Ferre: What is the issue before us?
Mr. Carollo: What we asked the last time, Mr. Manager, was
the full amount that had to be paid - deposits, fees, what
have you.
Mr. Lawrence: They had to be paid before the parade could
go on. The Police Department said that had to be in
approximately a week before. Sanitatimn said that their
check had to be in a week before.
Mr. Pereira: Well, we asked you ..o you know, last time you
were here, now, you are over there. You recall you were
standing right here and I asked you to go, talk to these
departments and make your deposits. Obviously you have not
done that. That is all I am concerned with. The Commission
asked the same question that they are asking now and I said
to you "Please go to the Police Department, to the Solid
Waste Department, and other City departments that were
involved in this and to make the appropriate deposits, so
that I could report to this Board that you ha,%te met with us
and that all of those concerns were taken care of. That has
not occurred. That is all I can report to you at this
point.
Mayor Ferre: What is the issue?
Mr. Carollo: Mr. Manager, again, how much do the;► have to
pay in police protection and sanitation?
Mr. Pereira: You are talking in round numbers sort;=where
around $4,500 to $5,000.
Mayor Ferre: For the whole thing.
Mr. Pereira: For the whole thing.
Mr. Caroll,): Is that for everything, or just for police?
Mr. Pereira: That is for Police and Solid Waste.
Mr.
Carollo:
Police and Solid
Waste.
Mr.
Plummer:
No,
no. That is
just the parade.
Mr.
Pereira:
That
is just the
parade, yes.
Mr.
Plummer:
Does
that include
the Auditorium?
Mr.
Pereira:
Now,
the Auditorium
was ...
Mr. Plummer: That is a separate issue.
Mr.
Plummer:
They are
not
here
about
the
Auditorium.
Mr.
Pereira:
They are
not
here
about
the
Auditorium.
Mr. Carollo: So that is for Police and Solid Waste. Does
that include all the permits and everything else?
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Mr. Dan Bradley: I am Dan Bradley from the lawfirm of
DuFresne and Bradley and I am the attorney for the Gay
Rights Committee. I think there has been some
miscommunication that maybe we can resolve. When I spoke to
my client after he appeared before the last City Commission,
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I told him to go down and speak to the Police Department.
He has a budget here - the Police Department told him
fifteen police officers at $22.00 an hour for $19485,
totaling 1800 for police officers and the other events
$2,100 for the permits and the vehicles, totaling $4,156. I
asked him to ask of the City if they wanted the money now.
He said "No, all you have to do is give it to us a week
prior to the event". I sent him to the Waste Department
with a check to pay them. The man told him it would be
approximately $300. We were offering to pay the money
immediately. We need it until the City has approved - your
authority to have the parade permit. Last year when we made
the payment to the Sanitation Department, they refunded the
check for us, because they said it was absolutely nothing to
clean up. We are prepared to make the payment. We have the
money to make the payments. It is just a question of whether
or not this City Commission requires my client to pay that
in hand in your official's hands before you act. The City
officials that we are dealing with are telling that "No, you
pay us after the City approves the permit", so my client and
I, we are sort of caught in, you know, in an inconsistent
position.
Mr. Carollo: What is the full amount that the Police
Department requested from you?
Mr. Bradley: For the budget that they asked us to prepare,
the number of sergeants on duty - two, the number of police
officers on duty is fifteen, and the number of lieutenants -
one, for a total cost of $1,878, just for the hour's parade.
Mr. Carollo: $1,871?
Mr. Bradley: $1,878.
Mr. Carollo: $1,878 for the parade?
Mr. Bradley: For the parade. For the activities in the
Auditorium itself, an additional $2,152.
Mr. Carollo: $2,152, that is for the additional activities
see
Mr. Bradley: In the Auditorium.
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Mr. Caroller: In the Auditorium.
Mr. Bradley: The City officials that Mr. Lawrence spoke to,
because I told him quite frankly that he needed to bring to
You evidence that he has made his payments. The officials
that he talked to said "No, you don't pay until the City
approves it", and I think we need some clarification. We
are prepared to do whatever is the wish of the City
>:
Commission.
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Mayor Ferre: All right, what is the wish of the Commission?
Mr. Carollo: Is our lawfirm from Dade Count
Y Yr sir, or ...?
Mr. Bradley:
y Yes, sir, DuFresne and Bradley, One Biscayne
Tower Building. Last year we had the same identical event
on Flagler Street - a parade that lasted about an hour and
ended in Bayfront Auditorium. That year we are requesting
authorization basically to march from center of Grove down
to the Dinner Key Auditorium where the activities will take
place inside the auditorium.
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Mayor Ferre: Mr. Manager, what action does the City
Commission have to take or not take?
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Mr. Pereira: The request is granting of the permit for the
parade area and ...
Mayor Ferre: Well, legally, Madam City Attorney, can we
deny them the right to a parade?
Mrs. Dougherty: The answer is no.
Mr. Bradley: Mr. Mayor, if I may suggest ...
Mayor Ferre: Just hold on. This resolution that Bob just
brought, is this what is needed? It is a resolution
establishing a temporary pedestrian mall on June 30th by
closing certain streets in the Coconut Grove area in the
City from traffic on that date during designated hours and
so on. That is a standard thing that we pass whenever we
have parades or what have you.
Mr. Carollo: What streets have to be closed down, and what
time of the day?
Mayor Ferre: Somebody clarify that?
Mr. Bradley: Mr. Carollo, if I may - the Police Department
gave us a map, if I could present to that to you, but
primarily, it is going to be a relatively small group that
will assemble basically in the area of the tennis courts
behind the elementary school there, march down Grand Avenue,
McFarland, to Bayfront Park. The City is already drawn
out - the City Police Department has sketched out this map,
if you would like to say it.
Mr. Carollo: When you say a small group, what size of a
group?
Mr. Bradley: Last year we had - we estimated around 1,500.
The news media said less than that. Mr. Mayor, I would
suggest that if it is the Secondly, that we will file a
. position of the Commission in terms in approving. Of
course, no permit will be issued if we don't pay the fee and
you can certainly approve it contingent upon us paying all
of the required fees.
Mayor Ferre: All right, what's the will of this Commission?
Mr. Dawkins: I make the motion.
Mayor Ferre: Is there a second?
Mr. Plummer: As long as everything is paid seven days in
advance I will second the motion.
Mayor Ferre: All right, further discussion, call the roll.
ON ROLL CALL:
Mayor Ferre: I'm voting with the motion because I think
that in the same way that I took a position on Prince and
Mother Ignatius tells it all. Even though I do not agree
with the intention of this group I think that in this
Democracy as long as they follow the laws and regulations,
that this City has no legal right denying these people the
opportunity to express their opinion as guaranteed by the
first amendment of the United States. I vote "yes".
Mr. Dawkins: Mr. Mayor, I would like to also, piggy back on
that by saying being one who has been oppressed, I don't see
any reason why these people cannot exercise what's
guaranteed to them by the first amendment of the United
May 99 1985
States of America and therefore, that's why I'm... Although,
I too do not subscribe to whatever their lifestyle is. They
still by the Constitution are entitled to it.
Mr. Carollo: Commissioner and We Mayor, I think you both
are correct. Let me tell you on the record why I voted "no"
on this particular issue. Number one, this is a pretty
hefty amount that I haven't seen any guarantees that it's
going to be paid yet and the motion was to approve it
period.
Mayor Ferre: Contingent on payment.
Mr. Carollo: No, that's not what Commissioner Dawkins
stated. Secondly, my concern is that I have seen all these
outside organizations, these particular group is based in
Fort Lauderdale. They are all coming to Miami to hold their
parades to hold their gathering, to hold their activities
and we are the ones that are having to put the extra police
officers out their, having to carry the extra burden. Now,
this is not San Francisco, this is not other places. This
is the City of Miami and if you have groups that are based
in other places, I think it's only, you know, more
appropriate that they have the activities that they want in
the pllace where they are based at. In this case it's Fort
Lauderdale. They have a right, yes, under our laws to hold
whatever activities they want in the City of Miami. That
doesn't mean that we have to agree with it or disagree with
it. I just haven't seen anything paid up yet and until I
see that amount and probably more that has to be paid on
fire and first aid, I'm not going to be voting anything such
as that.
Mr. Dawkins: Mr. Mayor, may I take a minute to ask, Mr.
Clerk will you read the motion back?
Mr. Ongie: Mr. Plummer in seconding the motion added the
caveat upon payment of the necessary fees.
Mr. Dawkins: Thank you. So, therefore,...
Mr. Plummer: No, no, no, seven in advance.
Mayor Ferre: Seven days.
Mr. Dawkins: Seven days prior tn.
Mr. Ongie: Yes.
Mr. Dawkins: It had to be paid seven days prior to the
affair or no permit. Ok. All right, thank you.
Mr. Bradley: Thank you, Mr. Mayor and Mr. Dawkins and Mr.
Plummer.
The following motion was introduced by
Commissioner Dawkins, who moved its adoption:
MOTION NO. 85-492
A MOTION GRANTING A REQUEST MADE BY A
REPRESENTATIVE OF THE SOUTH FLORIDA GAY
PRIDE COMMITTEE TO HOLD A PARADE THROUGH
COCONUT GROVE ON JUNE 30, 1985, SUBJECT
TO EVERYTHING BEING PAID BY APPLICANT
SEVEN DAYS IN ADVANCE OF THE AFFAIR.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the motion
was passed and adopted by the following vote-
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AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: Commissioner Demetrio J. Perez, Jr.
Vice -Mayer Joe Carollo.
ABSENT: None.
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NOTE FOR THE RECORD: Items #10-22 were pulled.
Mayor Ferre: On the Items other than the ones that have
been pulled, is there a motion? Anybody want to speak to
any of these issues? Seeing none, it's been moved and
seconded, call the roll on the remaining items of the
Consent Agenda.
The following resolutions were introduced by
Commissioner Plummer, seconded by Commissioner Carollo and
passed and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
38.1 ACCEPT COMPLETED WORK:
EDISON POOL.
GREEN'S POOL SERVICE - FOR
RESOLUTION NO. 85-493
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE COMPLETED WORK OF
GREEN'S POOL SERVICE AT A TOTAL COST OF $21,811.78
FOR EDISON POOL -UNDER DECK PRESSURE PIPING
REPLACEMENT; AND AUTHORIZING A FINAL PAYMENT OF
$4,531.78.
38.2 RESOLUTION ALLOCATING $100,000 CD BLOCK GRANT
FUNDS FOR THE PURPOSE OF IMPLEMENTING THE LATIN
QUARTER COMPREHENSIVE FACADE TREATMENT PROGRAM.
RESOLUTION NO. 85-494
A RESOLUTION ALLOCATING $100,000 IN 10TH YEAR
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT FUNDS FOR THE
PURPOSE OF IMPLEMENTING THE LATIN QUARTER
COMPREHENSIVE FACADE TREATMENT CENTER.
38.3 AUTHORIZING RESOLUTION: ISSUANCE OF WASTE
COLLECTION LICENSE - WILLIAM JOHNSON, D/B/A WORLD
SANITATION.
RESOLUTION NO. 85-495
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE OF WASTE
COLLECTION LICENSE, PERMITTING WILLIAM JOHNSON,
D/B/A WORLD SANITATION, TO COMMENCE DOING BUSINESS
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UPON FULL COMPLIANCE WITH CHAPTER 22 OF THE CODE
OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA.
38.4 AUTHORIZING RESOLUTION: PURCHASE COMPUTER
EQUIPMENT FROM THE BURROUGHS CORPORATION UNDER AND
EXISTING STATE OF FLORIDA CONTRACT.
RESOLUTION NO. 85-496
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE PURCHASE OF FIFTY
(50) B-20 MICRO COMPUTERS, FIFTY (50) PRINTERS,
AND ASSOCIATED PERIPHERAL EQUIPMENT FROM THE
BURROUGHS CORPORATION UNDER AND EXISTING STATE OF
FLORIDA CONTRACT FOR VARIOUS CITY DEPARTMENTS AT A
TOTAL PROPOSED COST OF $28090009 BASED ON A
PROPOSED ANNUAL LEASE COST OF $669000; AUTHORIZING
THE CITY MANAGER TO INSTRUCT THE CHIEF PROCUREMENT
OFFICER TO ISSUE PURCHASE ORDERS FOR THE EQUIPMENT
FOR THE VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS; ALLOCATING FUNDS
THEREFOR FROM THE DEPARTMENTAL OPERATING BUDGETS
OF THE VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS; ALLOCATING FUNDS
THEREFOR FROM THE DEPARTMENTAL OPERATING BUDGETS
OF THE REQUESTING DEPARTMENTS.
38.5 DEED ACCEPTANCE: EIGHT (8) DEEDS OF DEDICATION
FOR HIGHWAY PURPOSES.
RESOLUTION NO. 85-497
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE PROPER OFFICIALS OF
THE CITY OF MIAMI TO ACCEPT EIGHT (8) DEEDS OF
DEDICATION FOR HIGHWAY PURPOSES AND APPROVING THE
RECORDING OF SAID DEEDS IN THE PUBLIC RECORDS OF
DADE COUNTY, FLORIDA.
38.6 AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTION AND DELIVERY OF CERTAIN
CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA, HOUSING BONDS, OF 1984.
RESOLUTION NO. 85-498
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTION AND
DELIVERY OF CERTAIN CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA HOUSING
BONDS OF 19849 IN THE PRINCIPAL AMOUNT OF ONE
HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS ($100,000) TO REPLACE
LOST BONDS.
38.7 RESOLUTION ALLOCATING AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED
$109000 IN SUPPORT OF THE FIRST ANNUAL
PROFESSIONAL FOOTBALL PLAYERS CHARITY BASKETBALL
TOURNAMENT.
RESOLUTION NO. 85-499
A RESOLUTION AMENDING RESOLUTION NO. 85-272,
ADOPTED MARCH 21, 19859 WHICH ALLOCATED AN AMOUNT
NOT TO EXCEED $10,000 FROM SPECIAL PROGRAMS AND
ACCOUNTS, QUALITY OF LIFE FUND, FOR A FEE WAIVER
FOR THE USE OF THE MIAMI CONVENTION CENTER ON
MARCH 22 AND 23, 19859 IN SUPPORT OF THE FIRST
ANNUAL PROFESSIONAL FOOTBALL PLAYERS CHARITY
BASKETBALL TOURNAMENT; A SAID ALLOCATION BEING
CONDITIONED UPON SUBSTANTIAL COMPLIANCE WITH CITY
OF MIAMI ADMINISTRATIVE POLICY NO. APM-1-84, DATED
JANUARY 24, 1984; AND FURTHER CONDITIONED UPON
EVENT -GENERATED PROCEEDS BEING CONTRIBUTED TO THE
ETHIOPIAN HUNGER DRIVE, BY AMENDING THE FIRST
WHEREAS CLAUSE AND SECTION 1 OF SAID RESOLUTION
NO. 85-272, THEREBY CHANGING THE DATE OF THE EVENT
FROM MARCH 22 AND 23, 1985, TO APRIL 13, 1985, AND
CHANGING THE USE OF THE ALLOCATION FROM A FEE
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WAIVER TO COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE USE OF THE
MIAMI CONVENTION CENTER.
38.8 A RESOLUTION CORRECTING SCRIVENER'S ERROR
AMENDING RESOLUTION NO. 85-2800 ADOPTED MARCH 219
1985.
RESOLUTION NO. 85-500
A RESOLUTION AMENDING RESOLUTION N0, 85-2801
ADOPTED MARCH 219 19851 WHICH ALLOCATED $159000
FROM FY '75-76 COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT
FUNDS - GARMENT CENTER/FASHION DISTRICT
REDEVELOPMENT PLAN TO THE SOUTH FLORIDA ECONOMIC
OPPORTUNITY DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL, INC. FOR A PERIOD
OF ONE YEAR, BEGINNING APRIL 1, 19859 TO PROVIDE
TRAINING FOR JOBS AS SEWING MACHINE OPERATORS IN
THE CITY OF MIAMI UPON THE CONDITION THAT ANY
UNUSED PORTION OF SAID ALLOCATION IN EXCESS OF
$7,634, SHALL BE RETURNED TO THE CITY; FURTHER
AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE AN
AGREEMENT IN A FORM ACCEPTABLE TO THE CITY
ATTORNEY, WITH SAID AGENCY, BY AMENDING SECTION 1
OF SAID RESOLUTION NO. 85-2809 THEREBY CHANGING
THE ALLOCATION OF FUNDS FROM FY 175-76, TO FY '80-
81.
38.9 RESOLUTIO14 170. 85-501
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BID OF HECTOR TURF,
INC. FOR FURNISHING ONE (1) GREENS AERATOR TO
THE DEPARTMENT OF PARKS AND RECREATION AT A TOTAL
COST OF $6,311.50; ALLOCATING FUNDS THEREFOR FROM
THE GOLF COURSES ENTERPRISE FUNDS - OPERATING
BUDGET; AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO INSTRUCT
THE ASSISTANT CHIEF PROCUREMENT OFFICER TO ISSUE
A PURCHASE ORDER FOR THIS EQUIPMENT.
38.10 RESOLUTION NO. 85-502
A RESOLUTION ALLOCATING AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED
$81,846 FROM SPECIAL PROGRAMS AND ACCOUNTS, QUALITY
OF LIFE FUND, TO THE DEPARTMENT OF PARKS AND
RECREATION FOR THE VIRGINIA BEACH FAMILY SPLASHDOWN
DISCO 185 SERIES.
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39. EMERGENCY ORDINANCE; ESTABLISH NEW REVENUE FUND SUMMER
YOUTH EMPLOYMENT AND TRAINING PROGRAM 1985 J1 TA 11-9
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Mayor Ferre: Take up item 23.
Mr. Dawkins: Move it.
Mr. Plummer: Second. Question. Mr. Manager, why is this
coming as an emergency?
Mr. Carl Kern: Yes, sir. The previous actions of
establishing the program, this is just setting up the
account so we can start to pay the bills. They need to hire
the staff so they can go ahead and begin.
Mr. Plummer: Why is it an emergency, you have known about
it for six months?
Mr. Kern: No, sir. The funds were just approved at the
last meeting. Now, at this meeting we have got to act so
that the financial account so we can pay the bills for all
these people we are starting to hire. We can't wait until
next month.
Mayor Ferre: All right, who moved it?
Mr. Plummer: Dawkins moved it, I seconded.
Mayor Ferre: Further discussion, read the ordinance on Item
23. Call the roll.
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN EMERGENCY ORDINANCE ESTABLISHING A
NEW SPECIAL REVENUE FUND ENTITLED:
"SUMMER YOUTH EMPLOYMENT AND TRAINING
PROGRAM-1985/JTPA II-B", APPROPRIATING
FUNDS FOR ITS OPERATION IN THE AMOUNT OF
$1,0349082 FROM THE UNITED STATES
DEPARTMENT OF LABOR, AND AUTHORIZING THE
CITY MANAGER TO ACCEPT THE GRANT AWARD
FROM THE UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF
LABOR AND TO ENTER INTO THE NECESSARY
CONTRACT(S) AND /OR AGREEMENTS(S) TO
ACCEPT THE GRANT AWARD, CONTAINING A
REPEALER PROVISION AND A SEVERABILITY
CLAUSE.
Was introduced by Commissioner Dawkins and seconded by
Commissioner Plummer, for adoption as an emergency measure
and dispensing with the requirement of reading same on two
separate days, which was agreed to by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
1d 93.1 May 9, 1985
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
Whereupon the Commission on motion of Commissioner
Dawkins and seconded by Commissioner Plummer, adopted said
ordinance by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
SAID ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO. 9990.
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public
record and announced that copies were available to the
members of the City Commission and to the public.
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40. SECOND READING ORDINANCE; AMEND SUMMARY GRANT
APPROPRIATIONS NEW T A A FUND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT
BLOCK GRANT 11TH TEAR APPROPRIATING WoO401000.
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Mayer Ferre:
Mr. Plummer:
Take up 24.
Move it.
Mr. Dawkins: Second.
Is there a motion?
Mayer Ferre: Plummer moves, Dawkins seconds, read the
ordinance. Call the roll.
AN ORDINANCE -
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTION I OF
ORDINANCE NO. 8719 ADOPTED OCTOBER 269
1977, THE SUMMARY GRANT APPROPRIATIONS
ORDINANCE, BY ESTABLISHING A NEW TRUST
AND AGENCY FUND, ENTITLED COMMUNITY
DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT (ELEVENTH YEAR);
AND APPROPRIATING $14,0409000 FOR
EXECUTION OF SAME; REPEALING ALL
ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN
CONFLICT HEREWITH; AND CONTAINING A
SEVERABILITY PROVISION.
Passed on its first reading by title at the meeting of
April 18, 1985, was taken up for its second and final
reading by title and adoption. On motion of Commissioner
Plummer, seconded by Commissioner Dawkins, the Ordinance was
thereupon given its second and final reading by title and
passed and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
THE ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO. 9991.
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public
record and announced that copies were available to the
members of the City Commission and to the public.
NOTE FOR THE RECORD: AGENDA ITEM 25 WAS CONTINUED TO JUNE
13.
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41. FIRST READING ORDINANCE: AMEND ANNUAL APPROPRIATIONS
ORDINANCE APPROPRIATE $784,952 FOR MISCELLANEOUS
PURPOSES.
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Mayor Ferre: 33.
Mr. Plummer: Move it.
Mayor Ferre: Moved by Plummer is there a second.
Mr. Dawkins: Second.
Mayor Ferre:
the roll.
Further discussion, read the ordinance. Call
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AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTIONS 4 AND 6
OF ORDINANCE NO. 9901 ADOPTED SEPTEMBER
21, 1984, THE ANNUAL APPROPRIATIONS
ORDINANCE FOR FISCAL YEAR ENDING
SEPTEMBER 30, 19850 BY APPROPRIATING A
TOTAL AMOUNT OF $784,952 FROM THE 1984
RETAINED EARNINGS OF THE BUILDING AND
VEHICLE MAINTENANCE DEPARTMENT, $653,000
COMING FROM THE HEAVY EQUIPMENT
MAINTENANCE DIVISION AND $131,952 COMING
FROM THE COMMUNICATION SERVICES
DIVISION; INCREASING REVENUES IN A LIKE
AMOUNT TO FUND OUTSTANDING PURCHASE
ORDERS FOR THE DIRECTOR'S OFFICE,
$32,150, HEAVY EQUIPMENT MAINTENANCE
DIVISION, $5959452, PRINT SHOP DIVISION,
$25,398 AND COMMUNICATIONS SERVICES
DIVISION, $131,952 REMAINING AT THE
CLOSE OF FISCAL YEAR 1984; CONTAINING A
REPEALER PROVISION AND A SEVERABILITY
CLAUSE.
Was introduced by Commissioner Plummer and seconded by
Commissioner Dawkins and passed on its first reading by
title by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner
Commissioner
Commissioner
Mayor Maurice
NOES: None.
Miller J. Dawkins
J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Demetrio J. Perez, Jr.
A. Ferre
ABSENT: Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public
record and stated that copies had been furnished to the City
Commission and that copies were available to the public.
NOTE FOR THE RECORD: AGENDA ITEM 34 WAS DEFERRED.
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42. AUTHORIZE AGREEMENT: CRAMER, HABER AND LUBIS P. C.
PROFESSIONAL CONSULTANT SERVICES - FEDERAL LEGISLATION
AS IT IMPACTS THE CITY OF MIAMI.
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Mayor Ferre: We are on 35. This is an agreement with
Cramer, Haber and Lukis for professional services. These
people have done a tremendous job for the City of Miami over
the years.
Mr. Dawkins: Move it.
Mayor Ferre: Moved, is there a second?
Mr. Plummer: Second.
Mayor Ferre: Further discussion, call the roll.
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The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner
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Dawkins, who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 85-503
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO
EXECUTE AN AGREEMENT, IN SUBSTANTIALLY THE
ATTACHED FORM, WITH CRAMER, HABER AND LUKIS,
P.C., FOR PROFESSIONAL LEGISLATIVE
CONSULTANT SERVICES CONCERNING FEDERAL
LEGISLATION WHICH IMPACTS ON THE CITY OF
MIAMI AND ITS CITIZENS; ALLOCATING THEREFOR
AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $459000 FOR SUCH
SERVICES AND AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $39000
FOR REIMBURSABLE EXPENSES FROM SPECIAL
PROGRAMS AND ACCOUNTS CONTINGENT FUND.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here
and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the
resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner
Commissioner
Commissioner
Mayor Maurice
NOES: None.
Miller J. Dawkins
J. L. Plummer , Jr .
Demetrio J. Perez, Jr.
A. Ferre
ABSENT: Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
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43. MANAGER TO PROVIDE BREAKDOWN OF EXPENSES OF WATSON
ISLAND IWHT PROVISIONS AUTHORIZE AGREEMENT WITH TOUCHE-
ROSS C.P.A.'S TO EVALUATE PROPOSALS FOR UNIFIED
DEVELOPMENT PROJECT WATSON ISLAND.
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Mr. Dawkins: Under 36 before we vote Mr. Mayor. Mr.
Manager, every time I look I see the same names coming up
for CPA work. Now, we have got Latin minority firms and we
have got Black minority CPA firm. Now, why is it... I mean,
and I think before you came and I can't hold you
responsible an agreement was made that we would start at one
place and go straight down the list and then go back up and
start over. Now, why is it that this group here they have
got this work instead of a minority?
Mr. Pereira: In this particular contract the firm is
subcontracting with two minority firms Commissioner Dawkins.
In terms of the rotation I will ask John to address it, but
I believe there is a Charter requirement that we do have one
of the.... we have national recognized accounting firms to
do this kind of work. Now, in terms of the rotation, John,
you want to address that please.
Mr. Dawkins: No, I would like to address what you just said.
If we continue tacking on minorities as a part of the other
groups from out of town and every place, then we are never
going to have a local group capable of doing the job. So,
when you tell me that this group has two minority firms that
doesn't mean a thing to me Mr. Manager, because I keep
hearing this every time we get one of these and then you
tell me you got to have a big eight firm and... Now, is
it... did the City of Miami make the rule that it has to be
a big eight firm or how did it become a law that we have to
have a big eight firm?
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Mr. John Gilchrist: Commissioner, the Charter of the City
of Miami requires under unified development projects that it
be a nationally recognized firm. There are now twelve, not
big eight, but big twelve that meet that requirement and we
in turn have required them to have minority participation on
the work, but the Charter does tie our hands.
Mr. Dawkins: Ok. How long has the development, whatever it
is, been in effect?
Mr. Gilchrist: The unified development project process
procurement has been in effect... the first project was the
Bayside Project that was done under that. There have only
been three projects so far come before the City Commission.
Mr. Dawkins: How long has this been in effect?
Mr. Gilchrist: I think it's two years sir. I'm...
Mr. Dawkins: And in two years we have not worked up to the
point in the City of Miami where we have minority firms that
can meet the requirement in two years?
Mr. Gilchrist: I believe that's true sir.
Mr. Dawkins: But yet and still each one of these guys came
have had minority participation, but it's obvious that they
have had minority participation only enough to meet the
guidelines. They have not worked constructively with them
to help them reach a stage where they could challenge them
in my opinion, that is sir, to challenge them and bid on the
work.
Mr. Gilchrist: Well, I can't speak for those firms sir. We
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do require them to have as sub -consultants minorities...
Mr. Dawkins; Ok, continue this until I can sit down with...
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Mr. Plummer: Well, wait a minute, when you continue it I
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want other information. Mr. Gilchrist until this point in
all the years that the the City has been involved, how much
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money has been expended towards the improvement or the... I
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guess improvement of Watson Island.
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Mr. Gilchrist: To the actual...
Mr. Plummer: I'm talking about legal fee financial reports.
Mr. Gilchrist: I'm going to make a somewhat guess at that
ball park number of about one million two hundred thousand
dollars.
Mr. Plummer: All right, and that money so far has come out
of what fund?
Mr. Gilchrist: Well, it came out of several funds, but
initially it was parks for people bond funds. I think it
was just shy of five hundred thousand dollars.
Mr. Plummer: Does that include your salary sir?
Mr. Gilchrist: Yes, sir it did.
Mr. Plummer: You are talking about million two. Is that
money...
Mr. Gilchrist: It included my salary and many others, you
know.
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Mr. Plummer: Ok. The question that I really want answered
and I will ask you to give me a detailed break down before
the next meeting since this is going to be deferred, to the
exact cost and I'm talking about fully.
Mr. Gilchrist'. I can do that sir.
Mr. Plummer: I'm talking about travel. There has been a
great deal of travel, but more importantly I want to know is
that money going to be reimbursed to the City by the
developers? Now, normally on these kind of situations these
monies are always loanable and then repaid to the City as
part of their consideration for making this possible. No,
but I want that in writing at the next meeting if that is
the case.
Mr. Gilchrist: I think that as an overall that has not
been the case, but let me just... this is a minor example,
but this particular task we included in the RFP the
requirement that a proposer put fifty thousand dollars on
the table to cover this specific cost and advertising cost
and things related to it.
Mr. Plummer: Well, I'm talking about the...
Mr. Gilchrist: No, I understand the question.
Mr. Plummer: Excuse me, I'm talking about a million two,
because it's only right that the City has gone to that
expense to bring about for them to possibly have the
opportunity to bid and as such it should be reimbursed to
the people and the taxpayers of this community.
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Mr. Gilchrist: Commissioner, each of these efforts...
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Mr. Plummer: So, I'm asking for a two part report. The
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first one, the total and fully completed total breakdown of
all monies that have been expended. The second, is that
these monies are proposed in the RFP to be reimbursable to
the general fund of Miami.
Mr. Gilchrist: Thank you. I do have a time constraint on
this...
Mr. Plummer: Then you have got a problem.
Mr. Dawkins: Madam City Attorney.
Ms. Dougherty: Yes, sir.
Mr. Dawkins: Is it illegal to demand that fifty per cent of
the total dollars spent remain in this community? See,
because I keep hearing every time one of these things come
up they tell me they have got minority participation then I
have just heard that it's not enough to qualify. All I hear
here is that the big twelve or whatever it is, they got a
monopoly, because no one will accept the recommendations
unless it's from one of the big twelve. So, I have no
problem with that if they leave half of the money in Dade
County. So, is that illegal?
Ms. Dougherty: What do you mean by leave half of the money?
Mr. Dawkins: Ok. If they have to joint venture with a
minority firm in Miami, that the joint venture, I don't care
how many people they use, that the money be fifty per cent
for them which is Touche Ross and Company and fifty per cent
for whatever minority firm there be. If it's like what we
got here... thirty thousand dollars. If they joint venture
fifteen thousand go to them and fifteen thousand dollars go
to a local minority firm. Is that illegal?
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Ms. Dougherty: I would have to look it up. I know that in
connection...
Mr. Dawkins: Bring it back when we bring the other stuff
back. Do you have a problem with deferring this .....
Mr. Pereira: No, 1 don't have any problem with that kind of
subcontracting arrangement.
Mr. Dawkins: He said he has got a time constraint. So, now
let's be sure that we compliment each other, not...
Mr. Pereira: Can we get that answer...
Mr. Plummer: By the 23rd.
Mayor Ferre: Is that all right with you? What is it we are
holding up now?
Mr. Pereira: Well, can we do it...
Mr. Dawkins: Ok. I withdrew 13?
Mr. Plummer: He wants on the CPA on Watson Island that
fifty per cent of the CPA be a local minority.
Mayor Ferre: Well, then make your motion on that basis.
Mr. Plummer: We did to defer it until the time that...
Mayor Ferre: J. L., so these guys can get going on this
darn thing, make your motion on the basis that it be Touche
Ross with a fifty per cent minority thing.
Mr. Dawkins: No, wait now. The motion is that they have a
fifty per cent minority and they break the dollars fifty per
cent.
Mayor Ferre: That's it.
Mr. Plummer: Local. Ok.
Mr. Dawkins: Local minority.
Mayor Ferre: It's seconded by Plummer.
Mr. Plummer: Well, but Maurice, I have asked for two other
items. I have asked for a complete breakdown on the total
cost expended by the City to date and the second portion is
that a guarantee that whoever is the successful bidder, that
the 1.2 million approximate that John Gilchrist says that we
have spent will be reimbursed to the general fund of this
city in the negotiated...
Mayor Ferre: Make that in a separate motion and I will vote
with you. All right, now we already talked...
Mr. Plummer: Incorporate that in your motion and I will
second it.
Mayor Ferre: We are talking about the accounting aspects
of this right?
Mr. Plummer: No, sir.
Mayor Ferre: All right, make your other motions first J. L.
and wee will vote on that and then we will, you know... I'm
telling you I am voting with you. So, I'm not going to go
back on that.
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Mr. Plummer: What I'm saying is that the total... whatever
total has been expended by this City to date or to the time
of successful biding that that will be incorporated in the
negotiations to be reimbursed to the general fund of this...
by the...
Mr. Dawkins: I second.
Mayor Ferre: All right, I will... make that a separate
motion please and I will...
Mr. Plummer: I did.
Mr. Dawkins: We are voting on his motion first.
Mayor Ferre: All right, we are voting on your motion first.
Is the motion clearly understood?
Mr. Pereira: Let me say that I don't believe that there are
any constraints from us to enter into the kind of
arrangements that Commissioner Miller has suggested with,
you know, with this firm in terms of fifty per cent. Lucia
is that...
Mayor Ferre: We are not talking about that now. Ok. We
are ready to vote on the motion as presented by Plummer.
Call the roll.
The following motion was introduced by
Commissioner Plummer, who moved its adoption:
MOTION NO. 85-504
A MOTION DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO
PROVIDE TO THE CITY COMMISSION A
COMPLETE AND TOTAL BREAKDOWN WRITTEN
REPORT OF ANY AND ALL COSTS WHICH HAVE
BEEN INCURRED BY THE CITY IN CONNECTION
WITH THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT OF WATSON
ISLAND INCLUDING, THOUGH NOT LIMITED,
EXPENSES SUCH AS LEGAL FEES, FINANCIAL
REPORTS, STAFFS SALARIES: ETC.: FURTHER
DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO INCLUDE AS
PART OF THE R.F.P. THE PROVISO THAT ALL
MONIES HERETOFORE SPENT BY THE CITY IN
CONNECTION WITH SAID PROPOSED
DEVELOPMENT, SHALL BE BORNE BY THE
SUCCESSFUL BIDDER AND REIMBURSED TO THE
CITY'S GENERAL FUND.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Dawkins, the motion
was passed and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Mayor Ferre: Now, on 36.
Mr. Dawkins: Now, on 36 that we are going to pass this and
the company has to know that they got to have minority
participation and fifty per cent of the total dollars has to
go to a local minority.
ld 101 May 9, 1985
Mr. Gilchrist: Commissioner, you had selected this firth
before with two minority firms attached to it. So, what you
are saying is that you want fifty per cent of the...
Mayor Ferre: That's correct.
Mr. Dawkins: That's all.
Mayor Ferre: Is there further discussion on the motion as
amended? Call the roll on 36.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner
Dawkins, who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 85-505
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO
ENTER INTO A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT
WITH TOUCHE ROSS & CO., CERTIFIED PUBLIC
ACCOUNTANTS, ENGAGING SAID FIRM TO EVALUATE
THE FINANCIAL VIABILITY OF A PROPOSAL
SUBMITTED IN RESPONSE TO THE REQUEST FOR
PROPOSALS FOR THE WATSON ISLAND DEVELOPMENT
UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT PROJECT; AUTHORIZING
COMPENSATION FROM WATSON ISLAND DEVELOPMENT
PROJECT MONIES APPROPRIATED IN THE CAPITAL
IMPROVEMENT FUND, FOR SERVICES NOT TO EXCEED
AN AMOUNT OF OF $30,000 FOR THE PERIOD
COMMENCING MARCH 28, 1985, THE DATE OF SAID
FIRM'S SELECTION, AND TERMINATING JUNE 30,
1985; FURTHER PROVIDING THAT 50% OF THE DUE
AMOUNT BE PAID TO THE MINORITY FIRMS
PARTICIPATING WITH TOUCHE ROSS & CO. IN THE
ANALYSIS OF SAID PROPOSAL.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here
and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the
resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo t
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
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44. AUTHORIZE CONTRACT: E. P. IACONIS CPA TO ASSIST IN
PREPARATION OF DOCUMENTS -DISPOSITION AGREEMENTS SELECTED
DEVELOPERS SOUTHEAST PARK WEST OVERTOWN PROJECT.
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Mayor Ferre: We are on 37 Iaconis. Is there a motion on
this?
Mr. Dawkins: I think Mr. Bailey said this was the only one
that could do the job and do it as quickly as he need. I
move it.
Mayor Ferre: Moved by Dawkins.
Mr. Plummer: Second.
gl 102 May 9, 1985
Mayor Ferre: Seconded by Plummer, further discussion, call
'.
the roll.
The
following resolution was introduced by Commissioner
Dawkins,
who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 85-506
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A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY
MANAGER TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT IN
SUBSTANTIALLY THE FORM ATTACHED BETWEEN
THE CITY OF MIAMI AND E.P. IACONIS, A
CERTIFIED PUBLIC ACCOUNTANT, FOR A FEE
NOT TO EXCEED $10,000 TO ASSIST IN THE
PREPARATION OF LAND DISPOSITION
AGREEMENTS WITH SELECTED DEVELOPERS FOR
THE SOUTHEAST OVERTOWN/PARK WEST PROJECT
PHASE I REDEVELOPMENT AND ALLOCATING
MONIES THEREFOR FROM THE 1976 GENERAL
OBLIGATION HOUSING BOND FUNDS AND A
SECTION 108 LOAN FROM THE U. S.
DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND DEVELOPMENT
SECTION 108 LOAN PROGRAM.
(Here follows body of resolution,
omitted here and on file in the Office
of the City Clerk.)
Upon
being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the
resolution
was passed and adopted by the following vote -
AYES:
Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
4
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
3; NOES: None.
r.., ABSENT: None.
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```~" 45. ACCEPT APPRAISAL PROPOSALS: SLACK, SLACK, A ROE INC,
MAI APPRAISERS — FAIR MARKET VALUE OF BLOCKS 2 A 4
k_ DUPONT PLAZA.
Mayor Ferre: Take up 38.
Mr. Plummer: Move it.
Mayor Ferre: Moved by Plummer, is there a second?
Mr. Dawkins: Second.
Mayor Ferre: Seconded by Dawkins, call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner
gl 103 May 9, 1985 4t
Plummer, who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 85-507
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE PROPOSALS OF
PROPERTY CONSULTANTS, INC., AND SLACK,
SLACK, & ROE, INC., MAI APPRAISERS, FOR FEES
OF $5,000 AND $69500, PLUS EXPERT WITNESS
FEES OF $75 AND $140 PER HOURS RESPECTIVELY,
TO APPRAISE, FOR THE PURPOSE OF ESTABLISHING
FAIR MARKET VALUE, TWO BLOCKS OF PROPERTY
LEGALLY DESCRIBED AS BLOCKS 2 AND 49 ALL IN
DUPONT PLAZA SUBDIVISION AS RECORDED IN PLAT
BOOK 50 AT PAGE 11; BOUNDED ON THE NORTH BY
S.E. SECOND STREET; ON THE WEST BY S. E.
THIRD AVENUE; ON THE SOUTH BY S.E. FOURTH
STREET, AND ON THE EAST BY S.E. THIRD
AVENUE; ALLOCATING FUNDS TO COVER THE COST
OF THE APPRAISAL FROM SPECIAL PROGRAMS AND
ACCOUNTS, CONTINGENT FUND.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here
and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Dawkins, the
resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
l Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
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46. AUTHORIZE CONTRACT: FINANCIAL SYSTEMS ASSOCIATES INC.
DESIGN SPECIFICATIONS TO IMPROVE CITY FINANCIAL
ACCOUNTING SYSTEM
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µ" Mayor Ferre: We are now on 40, authorizing the Manager to
}`x enter into a contract with Financial stems and so on. S
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Mr. Dawkins: And this has your recommendation Mr. Manager?
Mr. Pereira: Yes, sir.
Mr. Dawkins: Move it.
Mayor Ferre: Moved by Dawkins, seconded by Plummer further
discussion, call the roll on 40.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner
Dawkins, who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 85-508
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO
ENTER INTO A CONTRACT IN SUBSTANTIALLY THE
SAME FORM ATTACHED HERETO, WITH FINANCIAL
SYSTEMS ASSOCIATES, INCORPORATED, TO PROVIDE
DESIGN SPECIFICATIONS TO IMPROVE THE CITY'S
FINANCIAL ACCOUNTING SYSTEM IN AN AMOUNT NOT
TO EXCEED $49,995, WITH FUNDING THEREFOR
ALLOCATED FROM SPECIAL PROGRAMS AND
ACCOUNTS, CONTINGENT FUND.
gl 104----
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here
and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the
resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Demetrin Perez, Jr.
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47. EXECUTE AGREEMENT: ALLOCATE $259950 FOR 4TH ANNUAL CITY
OF MIAMI YOUTH BASEBALL WORLD SERIES
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Mayor Ferre: We are on 43, first annual City of Miami youth
baseball world series. Twenty-five thousand requested the
same as last year.
Mr. Plummer: The Manager recommend?
Mr. Pereira: Yes.
Mr. Plummer: Move it.
Mayor Ferre: Plummer moves, Carollo seconds, further
discussion 43? Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner
Plummer, who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 85-509
A RESOLUTION ALLOCATING AN AMOUNT NOT TO
EXCEED $25,950 FROM THE OPERATING BUDGET OF
THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT IN
CONNECTION WITH THE FOURTH ANNUAL CITY OF
MIAMI YOUTH BASEBALL WORLD SERIES; FURTHER
AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE AN
AGREEMENT IN A FORM ACCEPTABLE TO THE CITY
ATTORNEY.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here
and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Carollo, the
resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Demetrio J. Perez, Jr.
gl 105 May 9, 1985 �,
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48. DISCUSSION ITEM: DEFERRED CONSIDERATION OF CITY'S
ACCEPTANCE OF A $200,000 GRANT FROM THE STATE OF FLORIDA
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Mayor Ferre: 44 de=obligation of the two hundred thousand
grant.
Mr. Plummer: Why a de -obligation?
3
j Mr. Pereira: Those dollars are site specific. We have
1 tried to work with the State and see if we can use those two
hundred thousand dollars.
Mayer Ferre: It's your baby.
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Mr. Plummer: Joe, you better listen to this.
Mayor Ferre: We got two hundred thousand dollars from the
State, the City is about to turn that money back.
Mr. Carolln: No, no, no way. Let me tell you what I
recommend we do with that money. What I recommend that we
do with that money is that we use that money to do a study
and at the same time possibly start using it to establish an
t RFP and some of the other requirements that we would need,
so that we could come up with the best possible use and I
would like to work with staff on this why they are doing .
For instance, I want that 2,000 or 2,000 plus boat marina in
the horseshoe across from the Marine Stadium, leaving enough
room there so that the Marine Stadium can still be used and
the barge can be placed there for passengers and the Rowing
Club can still use that.
Mr. Plummer: Well, I think the proper motion now is to deny
44.
Mayor Ferre: No, you don't need to deny it.
Mr. Pereira: Can I ... we have a problem there.
Mr. Carolln: At the same time, going ahead and trying to
attract a Disney or an ABC to bring the Water World so you
can have in Ocala connecting it to the other tourists
:.y attractions we have - the Seaquarium ...
Mayor Ferre: Make your motion.
Mr. Pereira: Mr. Mayor ...
Mayor Ferre: Go ahead.
Mr. Pereira: The is here. The monies that I
think could utilize for w at you are talking in terms of
proceeding with developing, if I am try to understand what
you are saying, some sort of master plan for the area - is
that which is our local match, which is something that has
been budgeted and there are I believe, about $130,000 plus
that we have available for that. The $200,000 that was
State money - it is money that was given to us for site
specific for this project. I am told by staff that we have
talked to the State and there is no way that we can use that
money if it is not specifically for this project, that we
have to return it. Now Carl, do you want to expand on that,
please?
gl 106 May 9, 1985
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Mr. C--rl Kern: Yes, sir. Carl Kern. Commissioner Carollo,
there would be $130,000 of the City funds that would remain
in that account, so the Commission could initiate a new
project.
Mr. Carollo: And the other $200,000 would be to. develop
Virginia Key Park. Of course, the $200,000 could be used to
develop the beach also will be part of that park.
Mr. Kern: Yes, sir. The problem with this particular
grant, the $200,000 of which we have used $35,0009 we
haven't actually received $200,000. It is an authorization
to draw up to $200,000 from the State. The problem is, they
gave it to us in 1982 and we extended it twice already and
it expires June 30th. It must be used for construction
projects.
Mr. Carollo: Construction projects?
Mr. Kern: Yes, sir. Now after we ...
Mr. Carollo: Could that be ...
Mayor Ferre: Carl, how in the world could we ...
Mr. Dawkins: Not expend $2,000,000.
Mayor Ferre: $200,0001
Mr. Dawkins: $200,000
Mayor Ferre: It is so hard to get money from Tallahassee.
We get money and we are going to turn some back? I just
can't believe we will do that!
Mr. Plummer: Well, let me ask this question. Why, if it is
for construction you can't use it to improve the stadium
that is presently there?
Mr. Carollo: It has got to be for parks.
Mr. Kern: Yes, for the park - the Virginia Key side.
Mr. Carollo: But, construction can include ...
Mr. Plummer: So do the parking lot!
Mr. Carollo: Construction can include picnic tables, things
of that nature, correct?
Mr. Plummer: Repaving.
Mr. Kern: Yes, sir. The problem is, you know we did the
master plan. Now, you are talking about a 600 acre park.
We started to look at the utilities that are required, all
the parking rows and things that are required. You are
talking about a multi -million dollar park just for the
infrastructure.
Mr. Carollo: Sure, but at least, let's put the dent!
Mr. Kern: I now sir, but the problem is, that $200,000 is
not enough to get that project off the ground.
Mr. Carollo: Fine, but at least you can begin doing
something with it.
Mr. Dawkins: I am of the opinion of everybody else here.
You keep telling me it won't make a dent, but still now,
next year you are going to come and tell me to help you pass
a $35,000,000 parks and recreation bond issue and you expect
me to go out and convince the public to vote for a
$3200009000 bond issue when you are turning back $2009000?
If you can't spend $200,0009 ynu can't spend $350009000.
Mr. Kern: Yes, sir, as you know, I tried very hard to pass
that $35,000,000 bond issue two times.
Mr. Dawkins: But yet, I am glad we didn't.
Mr. Kern: Without the construction money, we can't build a
major park on Virginia Key.
Mr. Pereira: If I may suggest to you, Carl - in whatever
preliminary work we did, there is a possibility that we
could take some of those items there, which would make - you
know, as the Commissioner said, paving ... I don't know
maybe some picnic tables, some landscaping, maybe sand and
whatever and try to put that together and just tell the
State that you know, we are going to use that money and
start some sort of construction - make a footprint so they
see we are moving and at the same time we proceed with the
remaining $135,000 to develop, you know, the master plan
that everybody could agree to. Let's give that a try. Let's
give that a shot, you know, with the State and see what
happens, okay?
Mayor Ferre:
All
right,
do we need to pass a motion?
Mr. Plummer:
We
are on
Item 45.
Mayor Ferre:
In
other words,
we are just going to skip over
Item 44?
Mr. Plummer:
We
are not
going to approve it, as it is.
Mr. Pereira:
You
don't
need any action now.
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49. DISCUSSION OF CONTRACT WITH MS. SARAH EATON: COMMISSION
WANTS HER AS A FULL TIME CITY EMPLOYEE.
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Mayor Ferre: We are on Agenda Item 45. This is a contract
with Sarah Eaton.
Mr. Pereira: Well, do you need an explanation of this?
Mayor Ferre: Well, if we are paying Sarah Eaton, why not
put her as an employee of the City of Miami?
Mr. Rodriguez: Frankly, it has been less expensive to
carry her as a consultant.
Mayor Ferre: But is it fair to Sarah Eaton to do this to
her? I mean, with all due respects, either we need someone
that ... if you need her full time then I think it is a very
unfair thing to do to this young woman.
Mr. Rodriguez: I agree with you and with the
budget, if you want to, I can come up with some
recommendation.
Mayor Ferre: I think the only fair way to do it is if you
are going to use her full time, that she be employed for
that amount.
gl 108 May 9, 1985
Mr. Rodriguez: I agree with you.
Mayor Ferre: Now, I don't know whether you need a motion to
that effect, or whether ... Mr. Manager?
Mr. Pereira: That is something we want to address on next
year's budget, Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Manager, all I am saying, I am ready to
vote for this, but I would strongly recommend that if this
young lady is qualified to do the job and she is there full
time, we not treat her like a second class person, that we
give her benefits of an employee of the City of Miami.
Either she is, or she isn't!
Mr. Pereira: Yes, I hear what you are saying. I don't
think we need a motion. If we have to make any adjustment
on the budget in terms of the position, we will be back.
Mayor Ferre: Let the record refleet, unless somebody wishes
to do different, that this Commission has deliberated on
this and if you feel that you need someone on staff full
time, that she should be hired as an employee and that the
budget will reflect accordingly.
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50. AUTHORIZE SALE OF SURPLUS FILL: VIRGINIA KEY.
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Mayor Ferre: The next item is Item 47.
Mr. Plummer: Move Item 47.
Mr. Dawkins: I second it. Under discussion, Mr. Manager,
what will the money be used for that will come in from the
sale of this fill?
Mr. Pereira: The money will be going back into the General
Fund, Commissioner and could be spent for whatever ... we
have not specified what this money is going to be utilized
for.
Mr. Plummer: What do you anticipate?
Mr. Pereira: Based upon last year's contract, somewhere
around $40,000.
Mr. Dawkins: Okay, can that $40,000 be used for major
improvement to parks?
Mr. Pereira: You earmark it, sure. Certainly you can
earmark it.
Mr. Dawkins: All right, I make a motion that the sales from
the bill be earmarked now to be spent on the improvement of
our parks.
Mayor Ferre: So in other words, you are moving 47 with the
condition that the monies received from the sale be used for
improvements to the parks.
Mr. Dawkins: Yes, sir, Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Ferre: Is there a second?
Mr. Plummer: Yes.
gl 109 May 9, 1985
Mayor Ferre: Further discussion? Call the roll on Item 47
as amended.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner
Plummer, who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 85-510
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO
ADVERTISE THE SALE OF SURPLUS FILL MATERIAL
ON VIRGINIA KEY; AND FURTHER AUTHORIZING
THAT DURING THE 1985 CALENDAR YEAR THE CITY
MANAGER MAY SELL THIS MATERIAL TO INTERESTED
BUYERS AT THE PRICE OF $1.84 A CUBIC YARD,
LOOSE MEASURE; DIRECTING THAT SALES PROCEEDS
BE USED FOR CITY PARK IMPROVEMENTS.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here
and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Dawkins, the
resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner Demetrio J. Perez, Jr.
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
NOTE FOR THE RECORD: AGENDA ITEM 48 WAS WITHDRAWN BY THE
ADMINISTRATION.
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51. AUTHORIZE AMENDMENT TO AGREEMENT: MANUEL G. VERA &
ASSOCIATES SURVEYING SERVICES IN CONJUNCTION WITH CITY
CONTRACTED PROJECTS.
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Mayor Ferre: We are on Item 49. This increases from 75 to
175.
Mr. Pereira: If I may, Mr. Mayor - 49, 50, and 51 they are
all the same. The understanding is we went out through the
regular bidding process and we had three firms which
contracts expire a year from now. Public Works Department
was moving so rapidly on the installation of storm sewers
that it is in our best interest at this point, since we have
a year left on each of these contracts, to increase the
amount so that we can move it to the next phase. This is a
feather in our cap that we have been able to move so quickly
with this program. We had not anticipated it.
Mayor Ferre: Is there a motion on 49?
Mr. Plummer: Move it.
Mayor Ferre: Is there a second?
Mr. Perez: Second.
Mayor Ferre: Second by Perez. Further discussion? Call
the roll.
gl 110 May 9, 1985
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The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner
Plummer, who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 85-511
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO
EXECUTE AN AMENDMENT TO AGREEMENT, IN
j SUBSTANTIALLY THE FORM ATTACHED HERETO,
BETWEEN THE CITY OF MIAMI AND MANUEL G. VERA
AND ASSOCIATES, INC., INCREASING THE MAXIMUM
TOTAL COMPENSATION ALLOWED FOR SURVEYING
SERVICES IN CONJUNCTION WITH CITY CONTRACTED
CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS, WITH FUNDS THEREFOR
ALLOCATED FROM THE PROJECT EXPENSE FOR EACH
INDIVIDUAL PROJECT.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here
and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Perez, the
resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
1 Commissioner Demetrio J. Perez, Jr.
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Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
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NOES: None.
ABSENT: Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
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52. AUTHORIZE AMENDMENT TO AGREEMENT: CAMPANILE AND
ASSOCIATES INC. SURVEYING SERVICES IN CONJUNCTION WITH
CITY CONTRACTED PROJECTS.
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Mr. Plummer: Move Agenda item 50.
Mayor Ferre: Plummer moves, Perez seconds 50 same as 49.
Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner
Plummer, who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 85-512
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO
EXECUTE AN AMENDMENT TO AGREEMENT, IN
SUBSTANTIALLY THE FORM ATTACHED HERETO,
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BETWEEN THE CITY OF MIAMI AND CAMPANILE AND
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ASSOCIATES, INC., INCREASING THE MAXIMUM
TOTAL COMPENSATION ALLOWED FOR SURVEYING
SERVICES IN CONJUNCTION WITH CITY CONTRACTED
CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS, WITH FUNDS THEREFOR
-
ALLOCATED FROM THE PROJECT EXPENSE FOR EACH
INDIVIDUAL PROJECT.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here
and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Perez, the
resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner Demetrio J. Perez, Jr.
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
gl 111 May 9, 1985
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
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53. DISCUSSION AND DEFERRAL: PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO
AGREEMENT SCHWESKE-SHISHKIN AND ASSOCIATES INC.
SURVEYING SERVICES.
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Mr. Plummer: Move Agenda Item 51.
Mayor Ferre: Plummer moves, Perez seconds 51.
Mr. Dawkins: Under discussion. Mr. Manager, here again we
are dealing with surveying and I don't see anything here
that is minority, and I hope you don't tell me that we have
a Minority Procurement Officer that is responsible for this.
Mr. Pereira: I've got to be very candid and honest with
you. I don't know what the process of selection was a year
ago. Maybe Don, you can throw some light into this.
Mr. Dawkins: But see, I have no problem with the process a
year ago.
Mr. Pereira: I know what you are saying.
Mr. Dawkins: I have a problem with the fact that we are
extending this for a year and we have yet to address the
minority problem.
Mr. Dan Cather: We addressed the minority problem initially
and we have a minority firm - Manny Vera and Associates is a
minority firm.
Mr. Dawkins: Manny what?
Mr. Cather: Manuel G. Vera - the first one, Agenda item 49.
Mr. Dawkins: All right.
Mr. Cather: And this contract that you approved a year ago
runs for two years. All we are asking for now is for more
money to spend than we anticipated.
Mr. Pereira: One of the three is a minority.
Mr. Cather: One of the three is a minority.
Mr. Dawkins: But there are three minorities in the City.
Mr. Cather: There are three minorities in the City, but
these are the only minorities ...
Mr. Dawkins: And one of the minorities is one of the
minorities. Now, what about the other minorities?
Mr. Cather: Well, the other minority doesn't have any
surveying firms and if they come in I would be happy to
consider them.
Mr. Dawkins: Okay, I tell you what, I am going to defer 51
until you decide to try to find one.
Mr. Cather: Fine.
gl
112 May 9, 1985
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54. FORMALIZING RESOLUTION: ALLOCATE $159000 TO FLORIDA
HOUSING COOPERATIE INC. FOR *FLORIDA COOPERATIVE HOUSING
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Mr. Dawkins: Mr. Manager, 1 would like to move Agenda Item
22.
Mayor Ferre: There is a motion on Item 22.
Mr. Carollo: Second the motion.
Mayor Ferre: Further discussion? Call the roll on 22.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner
Dawkins, who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 85-513
A RESOLUTION ALLOCATING AN AMOUNT NOT TO
EXCEED $15,000 FROM SPECIAL PROGRAMS AND
ACCOUNTS CONTINGENT FUND, TO THE FLORIDA
'
HOUSING COOPERATIVE INC., TO SUPPORT THE
"FLORIDA COOPERATIVE HOUSING FORUM", TO
BE HELD JULY 11-12, 1985, IN THE CITY OF
MIAMI; SAID ALLOCATION BEING CONDITIONED
UPON SUBSTANTIAL COMPLIANCE WITH CITY OF
MIAMI ADMINISTRATIVE POLICY APM 1-840
DATED JANUARY 24, 1984; SAID ALLOCATION
FURTHER BEING CONDITIONED UPON SAID
ORGANIZATION OBTAINING MATCHING FUNDS
FROM METROPOLITAN DADE COUNTY AND FIRM
WRITTEN COMMITMENTS FROM NATIONALLY
RENOWNED INDIVIDUALS IN THE COOPERATIVE
HOUSING FIELD TO PARTICIPATE AS
PANELISTS IN THIS TWO-DAY CONFERENCE.
(Here follows body of resolution,
omitted here and on file in the Office
of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Carollo, the
resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote-
"'
AYES: Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
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Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
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ABSENT: None.
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55. AWARD BID: CLEANING ASSOCIATION FOR CUSTODIAL SERVICES
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AT MANUEL ARTIME COMMUNITY CENTER FOR 1-YEAR.
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Mr. Dawkins: Move Agenda Item 19.
Mr. Perez: Second.
Mayor Ferre: There is a motion and a second on Item 19.
All right, it has been moved and seconded. Call the roll on
Item 19.
gl 113 May 9, 1985
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner
Dawkins, who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 854-514
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BID OF A.
CLEANING ASSOCIATION FOR FURNISHING
CUSTODIAL SERVICES AT THE MANUEL ARTIME
COMMUNITY CENTER ON A CONTRACT BASIS FOR
ONE (1) YEAR RENEWABLE ANNUALLY TO THE
DEPARTMENT OF BUILDING AND VEHICLE
MAINTENANCE AT A TOTAL PROPOSED FIRST
YEAR COST OF $30093.44; ALLOCATING
FUNDS THEREFOR FROM THE 1984-85
OPERATING BUDGET OF THE DEPARTMENT OF
BUILDING AND VEHICLE MAINTENANCE;
AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO INSTRUCT
THE ASSISTANT CHIEF PROCUREMENT OFFICER
TO ISSUE PURCHASE ORDERS FOR THIS
SERVICE.
(Here follows body of resolution,
omitted here and on file in the Office
of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Perez, the
resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
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• PROPOSED
MAYOR FORM OF GOVERNMENT AND EXPANSION OF COMMISSION -
DEFERRED TO MAY 23RD.
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Mayor Ferre: We are now on the public hearing on Item 26.
Does anybody here wish to speak on Item 26? All right, let
the record reflect that no one has come to speak on the
strong mayor proposal on second reading. Anybody wish to
speak on this? All right, for or against?
Mr. Carollo: For or against? There are some people here
who seem to want to speak on it.
Mayor Ferre: All right, one more time. Does anybody here
wish to speak on the so-called strong mayor, or Executive
Mayor amendment to the Charter?
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Mr. Carollo: Marvin Dunn, do you want to speak on that
issue? Mr. Mayor, I y guess everybody came to listen and not
to talk.
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s: a Mayor Ferre: All right, are there any comments or questions
from members of the Commission?
Mr. Dawkins: Mr. Mayor I have some questions for the
{ Manager that I need cleared up. According to the carefully
'* worded motion that we passed, it said that you should keep
the cost for the seven member Commission to what it is
presently for five Commission members.
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Mayor Ferre: That was the motion that passed.
Mr. Dawkins: Okay, I do not believe that I can sincerely
say to the public that if you vote for seven members that
the cost is going to be the same as five members. Now, no
where in here, Mr. Manager, have you included the cost for
space for the additional members.
Mr. Plummer: That wasn't called for in the motion.
Mr. Pereira: Commissioner, we responded ...
' Mr. Dawkins: Okay, no problem. Now, let me go back then,
to the general public, not to the Manager. There is no way
that this is reflective of the total cost of what this will
cost us as taxpayers. There must be space for the new
additional members. If that space is made in this building,
whomever we displace has to be placed someplace, so you are
talking in terms of another $250,000.
Mr. Plummer:
For what?
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Mr. Dawkins:
Just for the space for the Commissioners,
and
I don't care,
wherever you go, you have got to rent ...
Mr. Plummer:
I think the real cost is just in excess
for
the both, in
excess of $2,000,000.
Mr. Dawkins:
Okay, so that is a more realistic figure,
but
that is just my opinion and since we did not ask for that
in
the carefully
worded motion, which we passed unanimously,
I
think that should be spelled out and it also should
be
spelled out that the Mayor now has a $250,000 budget and
the
Manager would
still have his full staff, so now ...
Mayor Ferre: That is not part of the resolution.
Mr. Dawkins: I said I am not speaking to the resolution.
Mayor Ferre: Oh, I am sorry.
Mr. Dawkins:
As I said, I am not speaking to the
resolution. I
am speaking to actuality.
Mayor Ferre:
Got you.
Mr. Dawkins:
So again, the public should get this an
analyze it and
come up with your own conclusions.
Mr. Plummer:
Mr. Manager, through you to Mr. Merrill.
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Mr. Pereira:
Yes, sir.
Mr. Plummer:
Mr. Merrill, you did a very fine job of very
carefully delineating just what the resolution called for.
You did a very
fine job, sir, and I congratulate you. It is
one of the few
times you have done that. (LAUGHTER)
Mayor Ferre: If I were you Clark I'd sit down for the rest
of this one!
.,.'; Mr. Plummer: Mr. Merrill, let me ask you sir, because you
are very good with numbers. What is the total cost,
including everything?
Mr. Clark Merrill: The cost of what?
Mr. Plummer: The total cost of changing from one form of
government to this one that is proposed? The total, I mean
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everything - the cost of the elections, the cost of staff
the total cost, sir - the bottom line.
Mr. Merrill: There are so many policy decisions that have to
be made between now and then, you would have to make a
decisions on what staff you are going to have.
Mr. Plummer: Based on the present policies that exist, Mr.
Merrill, what is the total cost?
Mr. Merrill: But they do not exist for the new form of
s government. Those polices are not in place.
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Mr. Plummer: For example?
Mr. Merrill: For example, the salaries of the Commission.
That is going to be decided by the Commission by ordinance.
Mr. Plummer: Excluding that.
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Mr. Merrill: Okay, excluding that, the size of the staff the size of the staff of the Executive Mayor.
Mr. Plummer: No, the staff has been included because of the
formula for the cost of staff of each Commissioner. You
got that included in this present memo that you gave us.
Mr. Merrill: Well, what we did was respond to you that ...
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Merrill, does 2.4 ring a bill with you,
sir?
Mr. Merrill: That is a possibility.
Mayor Ferre: My bell hasn't rung, so ring my bell! What
does 2.4 mean?
Mr. Plummer: What, Mr. Merrill, is the total cost of
changing from one form of government to another? If all of
the variables are included, assuming that Sergio stays and
doesn't ask for termination of his contract, the staff, all
of the involvement - what is the potential cost to the
taxpayers? Excluding salaries, sir - we understand that no
salaries have been set.
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Mr. Merrill: But you can't make it - you can only make an
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educated guess.
Mr. Plummer: Give me your educated guess, sir.
Mr. Merrill: My educated guess? I don't have an educated
guess. The reason is because you have to determine what you
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want to do with these chambers. You are going to have to
increase the size of the chambers. How are you going to do
that? Are you going to move staff that are already in here
to another location? Which staff are you going to move?
There are a number of questions that have not yet been
determined and it is difficult to sit down and make a
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specific answer. You could say ...
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Mr. Plummer: Mr. Merrill.
Mr. Merrill: Yes, sir.
Mr. Plummer: Do you feel that it is only reasonable that
the taxpayers of this community have the right to know what
the cost factor is going to be?
Mr. Merrill: Certainly!
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Mr. Plummer: I cannot tell them that you don't have an
educated guess. That is not a correct answer.
Mr. Pereira: I think what Clark is trying to say = and I
have been trying to stay out of it. As you know, I have
stayed out of this issue.
Mr. Plummer: That is why I didn't ask of you.
Mr. Pereira: I know, but let me just say, and Clark, maybe
you can start doing some computations in your mind. There
are some variables obviously that have to be considered here
and probably we can get a clear definition of what those
variables are and I don't know, maybe Clark, might come up
with a guess-timate. I would have to assume that these
variables are as he said. You know, there would have to be
some renovations. There might be some moving of the staff,
there has to be a definition of the cost of salaries for the
Commission. We have to consider the variables of the
Manager's budget as well as the protocol functions that the
Executive Mayor has, but those are things, really, that in
all fairness, until they are addressed and decided, it is
very hard to put a dollar figure to it, but if you want to
take a guess, Clark, that is ... I am just trying to put on
the table some of the variables that have got to be taken
into consideration.
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Mr. Plummer: Mr. Merrill.
Mr. Merrill: Yes, sir.
Mr. Plummer: What do I say to the public when they ask the
cost of the new form of government?
Mayor Ferre: You say you are against itt
Mr. Plummer: I will say that, but I've got to tell them how
much I am against it. You know, it is just incredible ...
Mayor Ferre: Excuse me, J. L. I asked before, and you were '
here and you didn't get up to speak. I am going to give you
that opportunity.
Unidentified Speaker: Well, you are asking the gentlemen a
question I would like to ask also.
Mayor Ferre: I am going to recognize you in a moment after
we conclude the Commissioners and then Mr. Fannotto has
asked and then I will recognize you. J. L., I've got two
public speakers.
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Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I am still asking for an answer.
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Mayor Ferre: Well, while they are making their
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calculations, let's get the ... Mr. Fannotto.
Mr. Plummer: That will be fine, sir. I will be glad to
wait.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Ernie Fannotto, the President of the Dade
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Taxpayer's League. Ernie, you are on.
Mr. Ernie Fannotto: Honorable Mayor and members of the
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Commission, Ernie Fannotto is my name. I am President of
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the Taxpayer's League of Dade County and the Homestead
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Taxpayer's League. I see in this here change government it
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a big increase in taxes for the taxpayers of this City. I
am strictly against seven Commissioners. I want five
Commissioners. I don't want seven. Mayor,if you don't
mind, I ... Commissioner Plummer, I don't want seven
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Commissioners, I want five Commissioners. That cuts the
space. It cuts the Commissioners and it cuts the time of
the meetings.
Mayor Ferre: How about three?
Mr. Fannotto: No, no, five is okay with me.
Mayor Ferre: We could save some money if we cut it to
three.
Mr. Fannotto: I don't want district Commissioners and I
want to tell you why. I think I have made my point clear
here very much in the past. It disfranchises all the people
from voting for all the Commissioners who are going to be
elected. In plain words, seven Commissioners are spending
all the taxpayers money, and yet ... (listen, I mean, if you
want to hear me all right) ... if not ...
Mr. Carollo: Ernie, what you are saying is you are in favor
of majority rule, then.
Mr. Fannotto: I am in favor of five Commissioners. I don't
want seven, and I don't want any districts, because I will
tell you why. Districts disfranchise the taxpayers in this
county - in this city.
Mr. Carollo: This is city, Ernie.
Mr. Fannotto: City. And I don't think it is fair for all
the Commissioners to vote all of the monies of the taxpayers
and the taxpayers can't vote against all the Commissioners
that are going to be re-elected. They are just going to
vote for two or three - in other words, the majority will be
from districts that the public can't even vote for. Now, if
you call that democracy, I say it is democracy walking
backwards.
Mr. Carollo: Well, do you think that democracy stands for
equal representation, Ernie?
Mr. Fannotto: What is equal representation? There is no
representation for the taxpayers.
Mr. Carollo: Equal representation means that if you have
25% of the population that represents a certain ethnic
group, a certain race, that they have the right to also be
represented in a Commission.
Mr. Fannotto: They have a right too, but don't the
taxpayers have a right to vote for everybody when all their
monies are being paid to run the City? Which is more
important?
Mr. Carollo: In other words, if you had a Commission here,
let's say that in the next five years might be all
Hispanic - you would have no problems with that?
Mr. Fannotto: It isn't a question of Black or White or
Hispanic - it is just a question that the taxpayers that pay
all the monies of the taxpayers to run this City will be
disfranchised and the people that will voting on their
monies. They can't even vote against them if they vote
wrong! Hear what I am saying?
Mr. Carollo: Well, I am hearing what you are saying.
Mr. Fannotto: And that is true, they cannot vote for except
three Commissioners.
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Mr. Carollo: I just don't want you to come back, you know,
a couple of elections from now and be asking for districts,
because I am going to play back to you what you are saying
now!
Mr. Fannotto: I never did believe in districts. I said
that before, I am telling you again, time after time. I
think that the taxpayers who pay all the money in this City
should have a right to vote for or against all the
Commissioners that represent them, and you are not doing
that. That is the reason I am against it. Now, if you call
that democracy is just trying to elect people in certain
districts, and they may do wrong, and the taxpayers are
s going to be stuck holding the bag, they can break this City
and they can't do anything about it!
Mr. Carollo: Ernie, you know, I just wanted to put this on
the record. I guess you don't believe in U. S. Congress
} either. They run from districts.
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1 Mr. Fannotto: Well, that is not State and that is not City
legislation. They did that years ago, and if I had my way,
I would have had everybody to vote for them.
Mr. Fannotto: So it is all right for the State and for the
Federal Government, but not for the City.
Mayor Ferre: Not only that, but Senator Plummer, and I
think he has been unfortunately taken to task, and it was an
unfair criticism that they made of Senator Larry Plummer,
has put in, I think a very wise amendment and I hope it is
fruitful and that is to force Metropolitan Dade County to do
the very same thing we are trying to do locally, and that is
to go to districts.
Mr. Fannotto: Mayor, it is going to get beat up, please
read it, if it comes up. You don't have to worry about
that. They are not going to vote for it, but the point
about it is, if you are looking from the standpoint. . .
and as Commissioners when you change the form of government,
you are supposed to be thinking of the economy in government
that is going to help the City and giving them good
government, and I am not against a strong mayor. All I am
>,
against is, all this money is going to cost - maybe
$1,500,000 or $2,000,000 more every year, and then the
taxpayers can't vote against these Commissioners. Now you
know, you can do anything you want, but the people are not
going to vote for it anyway but that is not the idea. I
don't want to see an election come up and not be successful
when you have a chance to be successful in doing some things
and benefit the public, but ...
Mayor Ferre: So in other words, your opinion is, you are
for a strong mayor, but against districts.
Mr. Fannotto: I am against districts and again I am going
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to tell you before I leave the mike it is not the democratic
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way of giving the homeowners and taxpayers a break. Again I
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am going to say they cannot vote for the majority of the
Commissioners who can control this Commission. They can
control this Commission for years and years - four
Commissioners, and what is going to happen, the ers
taxpayers
p y
can o broke unless the
g y get a petition in this , that, then
they will spend another $5,000,000 to $6,000,000 coming up
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before the Commission and I am against it and I am not
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saying I am against the strong Mayor.
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Mayor Ferre: Ernie, usual, you make some very cogent
points. I've got to tell you that sometimes I don't always
agree with you, but I always accept that you make valid
points.
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Mr. Fannotto: Well, yes, thank you, Mayor, I appreciate it,
but let's put it in execution.
Mayor Ferre: All right. Yes, sir? Name and address.
Mr. Rafael Herman: For the record my name is Rafael Herman.
I would like to ask some questions, Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Ferre: We need your address, Mr. Herman.
Mr. Herman: Well, I am a resident of the City of Miami
Beach, but ...
Mayor Ferre: We need your address no matter where your
residence is.
Mr. Herman: My address is 4190 Nautilus Drive, Miami Beach,
Florida, 33140. Do you need my phone number too, sir?
Mayor Ferre: No, sir. The record doesn't need that.
Mr. Herman: Number one, I am in favor for a strong mayor
government, because I would like to see it in the City of
Miami Beach too. Number two, I am in favor also for ... are
you listening, Mr. Mayor?
Mayor Ferre: In a moment.
Mr. Herman: Are you ready?
Mayor Ferre: I am now.
Mr. Herman: I am in favor for a strong mayor government
because I would like to see it in the City of Miami Beach
too. I am also in favor for seven Commissioners and not
five, and I am going to express myself why. You have a
better majority to decide and there is no way a conflict of
interest whatsoever to make a decision, but I have a
question for you, Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Ferre: Go ahead.
Mr. Herman: If you are going to have a strong mayor
government, what are you going to do with the office of the
City Manager and all of his staff? This is my question to
you, Number one.
Mayor Ferre: Well, either ...
Mr. Herman: I mean, you have to have either this or this.
Mayor Ferre: Well, whoever is the Mayor, whether it is Mr.
Dunn, or myself, or whoever would be elected Mayor, would of
course have the responsibility of submitting to the
legislative body the recommended staffing and in the way
this is drafted, the Mayor, just like the Governor, or just
like the President of the United States, would appoint the
chief administrative heads of the various departments. In
this case, it would be the chief of administration, the head
of finance, the head of the development department as a
separate entity and the head of the legal department, so
there would be in effect, four appointments that the Mayor
would make, with the consent of the legislative body. Now,
that is the way the State of Florida functions, or the State
of New York. That is the way the United States government
functions. The President appoints the administrative heads
of the government.
Mr. Herman: I am interested in hearing salaries.
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Mayor Ferre: In my case, it would be my intention to
reappoint the Manager to be the head of the administration.
Mr. Herman: So in other words, instead of being called Mr.
City Manager is going to be ...
Mayor Ferre: City Administrator.
Mr. Herman: You are changing his title only - the name of
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the title.
Mayor Ferre: The intention of this is that the
administrator ... Lucia, what is the name of the title on
the ..
Mrs. Dougherty: Director of Administration, Director of
Finance and Budget and Director of Development.
Mayor Ferre: The Director of Administration, would, in
effect, be running the City on a day to day basis.
Mr. Herman: Okay, I understand about the City Manager, what
is going to be his next title. What is going to be with the
Assistant City Managers and all the secretaries and
everything in that department?
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Mayor Ferre: That would be up to the administration to
decide, in the same way that it is done in Boston, in New
' York, Philadelphia, Cleveland, Chicago, in Detroit, in San
Francisco, in Houston, in Atlanta, in Tampa, Florida and in
Hialeah.
Mr. Herman: Mr. Mayor, what I am interested to know, and
when you change a form of government from the City Manager
form of government to a strong mayor form of government, you
have to choose either one of them. Now, if you choose to
have a strong mayor form of government, that means that you
have to eliminate one department. Bottom line is, you
cannot pay double salaries.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Herman, I don't mean to get into an
argument with you and explain - since you are not ... to do
that ...
Mr. Herman: No, no, I want to understand you much better,
Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Ferre: But I just want to explain so that you clearly
understand. There are volumes of books that are written and
you are welcome to go to F.I.U. or to the University of
Miami that carefully ...
Mr. Herman: Mr. Mayor, I know what is the strong mayor
government. I studied all the way to Hawaii what is the
strong mayor government.
Mayor Ferre: Let me finish.
me finish my statement.
Mr. Herman: Sure.
I didn't interrupt you and let
Mayor Ferre: If you would let me finish my statement.
After that, please make your statement and finish.
Mr. Herman: I am listening to you.
Mayor Ferre: You can go and get - there are hundreds of
volumns written, describing the way an executive government
functions and we are not re -inventing here the wheel. What
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we are doing is, we are copying. As a matter of fact, most
of the things that put into this Charter Amendment come
directly from the Charter of the City of Philadelphia,
Phoenix and Atlanta, to there is not much difference between
what we are doing here and what they do in those cities.
Mr. Herman: You see, Mr. Mayor, the reason I am asking you
is because you seem to be a little different here than in
the City of Hialeah. They have a strong mayor government
too and the way you propose it on your package, on your
agenda, it seems to be a little different from the City of
Hialeah, which is also a strong mayor government. That is
why I am asking you, you cannot have both. You can have
either one of them.
Mayor Ferre: Yes, you are correct and we think we have
improved what Hialeah has. This is more similar to what
Philadelphia has.
Mr. Herman: I am repeating myself. I am for a strong mayor
form of government and I would like to see it here in your
City, but I want to make sure that the public here are going
to vote for it, but you cannot confuse them. You have to be
more specific and tell them exactly how are you going to
manage it, and that is why I am asking you my question, and
you don't answer me. I am still waiting for your answer
about salaries.
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Mayor Ferre: Mr. Herman, I have already answered as much as
I can answer now. Thank you.
Mr. Herman: One more question, sir. Can you tell me more
or less, what is going to be the salary of the strong mayor
government in your city?
Mayor Ferre: The salary of the Mayor will be determined by
the legislative body, in the same way it is determined in
New York, Boston, or Hialeah.
Mr. Herman: Do you have an idea what will be your salary?
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Mayor Ferre: That will be up to whoever sits on the
legislative board. If they want to establish a salary of
$50,000, that would be up to the legislative body, in the
same way that the salary of the President is established by
Congress and in the same way the salary of the Governor is
established by the Legislature; in the same way the salary
of the Mayor of New York is established by that legislative
body — no different. San Francisco, Atlanta, they are all
the same. It is the traditional American form of City
government when you divide the administration and the
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legislative powers. The legislature determines the
salaries.
Mr. Herman: So in other words, on July 9, 1985, you are
going to put it on a Special Election on the ballot and the
public in Miami will decide if they want it, or they don't
want it. Am I correct?
Mayor Ferre: That is correct.
Mr. Herman: Thank you, sir.
Mr. Marvin Dunn: Mr. Mayor, may I speak to the issue?
Mayor Ferre: Yes, sir.
Mr. Dunn: My name is Marvin Dunn. I live at 3530 Crystal
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View Court, Miami. I must say, Mr. Mayor, as someone who
has been here since 9:00 o'clock this morning, I am having
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second thoughts about challenging you for your job. I would
urge the Commission to defeat this proposal. I am very, very
seriously concerned about this matter. It seems to me that
to elect someone to run a city makes about as much sense as
electing someone to run a bank, or school, or hospital and
it may well be that you, Mr. Mayor, or I or some other Mayor
might select someone like the current City Manager to run
the City, but what happens in the future of this City when
some person is elected to the Mayor's job, only support some
political hack of his as the chief administrator. How do we
protect the people of the City from the corruption,
favoritism, incompetency that we have seen in so many other
cities that have had the kind of city government that is
being proposed here. It seems to me that running the city
is a very, very technical and highly complicated matter. It
ought to be left in the hands of people that have been
trained to do it and not elected officials. Secondly, I am
very, very concerned, Mr. Mayor and members of the
Commission, with an idea of having a strong Mayor whose term
of office is not limited. It seems to me to be
unconscionable to install someone as Mayor of this City in a
strong Mayor role with no limitation on the number of years
such a person could serve in office.
Mayor Ferre: Excuse me, Dr. Dunn. The limitation is eight
years in this provision.
Dr. Dunn: Oh, then I am corrected . I thank you very much
for that correction. Finally, let me just suggest to the
members of the Commission that it seems to me that there is
a need for a full time Mayor. The leadership of our City on
a full time basis does make sense, but it seems also to me
that we could have a full time Mayor without necessarily
also having a strong Mayor. Thank you very much for the
chance to speak to the matter.
Mayor Ferre: Dr. Dunn, let me ... I don't mean to get into
a debate format, we will have plenty of opportunities in the
future to do that, but I would like to just briefly answer.
In the last 40 or 50 years, there has not been one single
strong mayor or Executive Mayor form of government that has
reverted to a manager form, other than right here. On the
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other hand, the opposite is true. There are many manager
forms of governments that have reverted back to an executive
mayor. Now, if you ask the question as to why that has
happened in those American cities where it has occurred, the
answers are inevitable that usually there is a feeling that
the electorate does not have the opportunity to directly
impact on the Administration. The reason why the founding
fathers divided, as you know better than I do, the powers of
government - why didn't they use the British parliamentary
system and if you look at the Federalist papers and all the
arguments that went on in those discussions when our form of
government was established. It was clearly stated that
there was a desire to divide the powers of government so
that there would be a clear out administrative head -
elected by the people, and a clear cut legislative body that
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would set the laws and the policies of that governmental
entity. Now, that form of government has served us well for
200 some odd years nationally. I submit to you, and let's
depersonalize this, because sometimes we get into trouble
when we ... and we in Miami have a tendency to make
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decisions based on "who" rather than "what". So, let us
depersonalize it and not talk about me and the City and you.
Let's talk about Metro, okay? Let's start with that
discussion - a very simple discussion. Metropolitan Dade
County is larger than almost a dozen states of the union.
Can you imagine that the people of Rhode Island or South
Dakota, if you will, or Maine, would elect a nine -member
uni-cameral legislature in the State of Rhode Island, and
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that those nine members elected at large in Rhode Island,
would then turn around and select the Governor for the
State, and the Governor would be appointed? That would be
unacceptable to the people of Rhode Island. Now, 1 submit
to you if it is unacceptable to the people of Rhode Island,
then why would a government that has autonomy and home rule
like Metropolitan Dade County, accept the appointment of the
Governor, in this case, the Manager, to administer and
manage an entity as large as Metropolitan Dade County,
without having the appointment of that individual
accountable to the people who are the electors of that
governmental body. Now, I think that it has worked well for
all or most of the large American cities and I think it is a
form of government that has been proven to be functional.
Now, there are two other items that are very germane. I
want to tell you as the Mayor of this City for the past 11
years and some odd months, and before that 3 and one-half
years as a Commissioner, that it is virtually almost
impossible to fire a Manager. It is really impossible. If
you look at the history of the Manager form of government,
you will see that there have been very, very few Managers
ever fired because somehow you never get around to it. You
know, you feel sorry, or the reasons, or you can't ... it
has nothing to do, in the case of our former Manager, of the
ethnic issue. It has to do with the ability to fire
managers! It is a very difficult thing. In this City. Mel
Reese held on and there were a lot of feelings to fire Mel
Reese but it doesn't happen. Now, when a government goes
bad, whether it be Kansas City or any other place, the
people of that city throw that head of government out! It
happened in Chicago. In Chicago, the last two Mayors have
been thrown out of office, okay? ... because the people of
Chicago did not like the way Jane Byrne was operating and
the other one before, and so I think that if you believe in
the democratic process of America, than I think you have got
to believe that the best judge of who is the proper Irian or
woman to be the head of that administration is the people
themselves. Now, there is one last point about this whole
legislative and elected head of government. You know, the
fact is that you either believe in the democratic process or
you don't believe in the democratic process. If you believe
in the democratic process, then it is applicable to all
people in all places and in all circumstances, of all
creeds and colors and races and religions. There is no
difference between the process in a place like Miami than
the process in Chicago, or New York or Trenton, New Jersey,
or Atlanta, Georgia. And it's worked for Atlanta, Georgia.
Sometimes it has been difficult. Professors, your cohorts
out there at F.I.U. in the Government Department, and we had
a very interesting debate, and it got to the point where the
bottom line, he said, "Look, the difference between a
Manager form and a Executive Mayor from an efficiency point
of view is absolutely the same. There are cities that are
well managed, that are manager form and well managed that
are Executive Mayor." That is not what ... because
corruption can occur just as easily with the Manager as it
can with the Mayor. There is no guarantee that a Manager is
going to be more honest than an appointed Manager, and the
laws of the land provide for ways of dealing with that and
the best way to deal with it is to throw the guy out in an
electoral process, but the issue, says your cohort at
F.I.U., is in crisis management and when you have elected
head of government, the way you deal with issues is very
different than when you have an appointed head of
government. Now, what I am interested in doing, and I am
only speaking for myself, is giving the Chief Administrator
of the City more power, not less power. And the way you
give a Chief Administrator more power is by giving that
person the right to veto. That is the way you give more
power to the Chief Administrator. That is how the President
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does it and that is how the Governor does it. That is now
the Mayor of New York or Boston or Philadelphia or Atlanta
do it. Now, the only way you can give the Manager veto
power over a legislative body is by electing that person,
because otherwise, then you really get into a form of
government that is not acceptable in America, so all I am
proposing ... and I am not reinventing the wheel. This
Charter that we are about to vote on, I submit to you, there
is absolutely nothing new in this Charter change - not one
thing. These Charter changes exist in hundreds of American
cities. I submit to you and to the electorate, if this
thing passes, that the Manager form of government in America
is obsolete, that it is going out, that it will not be
around by the year 2000 - that if it happens in Miami, I
guarantee you within five years it will happen in
Metropolitan Dade County and if it happens in Metropolitan
Dade County, it will happen in Miami Beach, and after that,
what you have got left is Phoenix, Arizona, Cincinnati and
the rest of the Manager form of government through all of
California, and they are going to go too.
Dr. Dunn: Mr. Mayor, I heard your eloquence as a lecturer
and I am impressed this afternoon, but I will resist the
temptation to debate you. I am sure we will have an
opportunity to do that in the future - many opportunities.
Let me just make one closing comment. I am not sure, Mr.
Mayor, that in the City of Miami, the City Manager form of
government has been given, particularly in recent years, an
opportunity to function properly and I say that because I
think that there are numerous occasions in which the members
of the Commission, with all due respect, have put their
hands into various day to day operation decisions in the
City of Miami. It seems to me that if in fact the Manager
was indeed allowed to operate autonomously, perhaps we might
be in a better position to say that that form of government
has not worked. I am not sure that that has been done and I
will close my comments with that.
Mr. Carollo: Marvin, look, let me say this to you. The
best example that I have seen as of late of why we need an
Administrative Mayor form of government, an Executive Mayor,
Strong Mayor, if you want to call it that - was just the
opposite of what you are saying that was happening in a
previous administration. I wasn't here in the days of
Reese. I don't know just how strong of a hand he had. I
was here in the days of Howard Gary. Let me tell you this -
if anybody had an open hand in running the City of Miami, it
was Howard Gary and that is just the point. There were no
checks and balances with the Administrator, just like to a
great extent, there are few checks and balances in the whole
system of the City Manager. All that the City Manager has
to do after he comes in, particularly in this community, is
cater to the morning and afternoon Miami Herald, basically,
and as long as they are happy with him, he has immunity to
practically do as he pleases, because it is almost
impossible to receive or acquire three votes at any given
time to get rid of a Manager, and then all the Manager has
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to do is play politics like we have had some that have
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played it best, than the politicians and you won't get three
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votes. So, the argument that is going to make the City more
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political by havingan Executive Mayor, that is not so. You
could have good and bad in an administrator with the City
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Manager or a strong Mayor, but at least in the area where
you have an Executive Mayor, at least he is directly
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responsible to the people and if they feel he is not doing
an adequate job, they can get rid of him. It is not the
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case with the City Manager. They can't vote him out. Of
course, I understand that for the morning and afternoon
Herald, they would very much prefer to have the present form
of government that we have where they can best manipulate
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what goes on inside the City of Miami government. With an
Executive Mayor it might possibly be much hard for them to
do that.
Dr. Dunn: Thank you, Mr. Carollo and Mr. Mayor. Thank you
for listening to me. I appreciate the opportunity.
Mayor Ferre: All right, yes, sir.
Mr. Ray Fontroy: Mr. Mayor and Commissioners, my name is
Ray Fontroy, 2741 N. W. 49th Street. I am here representing
Black citizens who are concerned about the proposed plan for
redistricting and our concern is basically the
representation of the Black citizenry of Miami. As we have
seen it, the proposed plan by the City is designed to
totally contain and dilute Miami's Black voting strength by
gerrymandering and including a disproportionate number of
voters into one district and thereby, we have offered to you
an alternate plan that would be more representative of the
Black voters in the City of Miami. Each of you should have
this proposal and on the proposal there are some facts that
you may agree with or not, but nonetheless they are facts
and what we are asking is that you recommend that you
abandon the proposed redistricting plan and consider this
alternative plan which more appropriately adheres to the
court precedent - and offers Miami's Black voting community
a fairly reasonable opportunity to elect candidates of
their choice - those who live in the districts that
represent those people in that area. As our proposal points
out, it is a six district proposal with approximately 20,000
voters in each district and we feel this would be a more
representative proposal - more representative of the total
community and would give each community a fair
representation and input into decision making processes in
the City of Miami. I would hope that you would consider
this proposal when the time comes to vote for it.
Mayor Ferre: All right, Mr. Fontroy, if I may respond. Let
me say that I personally have read the plan and looked at it
and it is an exceptionally fine plan and I commend you and
those who were the drafters of it. It was done carefully
and intelligently and I would subscribe to it. Now, let me
explain to you why it is not before us. The fact is that to
go to six districts, if we go to six districts, the question
comes as to how many people would then represent the City at
large, if any. Obviously we can't have six, because that is
an even number so you need to go to seven. It is my very
strong belief personally that a legislative body of this
sort representing a City must be balanced between the
interest of neighborhoods and the people in the City at
large, so we must have at large elections, representations,
if not of the majority, at least of a sufficiently strong
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percentage of the total, so as to give a certain balance to
the approach of government by that legislative body. It was
my interest at first and my first original proposal was that
we go to five districts and four at large - that would be a
Commission of nine. The argument against that was mainly
that it was too large, and nine was too much - we didn't
need nine Commissioners in the City of Miami; that like
Hialeah and Miami Beach, seven is a better number. Five is
a very difficult number for a Commission. Seven is a more
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balanced number. In the interest of trying to have some
type of balance in this. Now, four district elections is the
minimum that the City of Miami can have if you look at the
demographic makeup of this community where you would have
one district that would be clearly and identifiably and
unquestionably Black. There would be two districts that
would be undeniably Hispanic. The fourth district, in its
majority would be undeniably White American, White non -
Hispanic, Anglo, whatever you wish to call White Americans
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that are non -Hispanic. Now, the reason why we did it that
way was to very clearly give each segment of this community
representation on the future Commission so that there would
never be a time when there would not be at least one Black
on this Commission, one Hispanic and one Anglo. Now, I get
arguments on both sides. There are those in the Black
community who feel that they would rather take their chances
in elections at large. That has worked so far, and I hope
to God it continues to work. It would be a regrettable
circumstance in this City if we ever arrived at a day when
there would be five Hispanics, or five Blacks or five
anything in a City that has major segments of the community
that are not Hispanic or that are not Black. Now, the
argument goes, well how about Miami Beach where everybody on
the Commission is Jewish? Yes, one is not, but his mother
is Jewish and Commissioner Dowd claims that he is Jewish and
I am not going to question whether he is or he isn't, but
the point is, that the fact is, that traditionally there has
been an all Jewish Commission in Miami Beach. Now, that is
the will of the people there in Miami Beach. The argument
goes, "Well, if it is acceptable in Miami Beach and why
wouldn't it be acceptable in Miami" and the answer is that
obviously it is acceptable if it becomes an all Hispanic
Commission, but the point is, that in Miami Beach you do not
have the confrontational politics that exist in Miami and I
think it would be - the Cuban community and the Hispanic
community would be poorly served if all of a sudden in a
city where there is a major Black community and a major non -
Hispanic White community when there would be no
representation from those communities on this Commission.
Therefore, districting is an idea which has worked. I want
to tell you that is the way the Congress of the United
States works. I want to tell you that is the way most
legislatures - now, after the Supreme Court ruling work.
We have districting in Dade County. When we went to
districting, everybody was concerned - "Oh, we are going to
get the parochialism". Well, I don't think that has been
the case. It has worked so far in two sessions of the
Legislature. Now, if it works for the country, nationally
and it works for the state and it works for most American
cities where there are districts, I would submit to you that
it is long overdue in both Metropolitan Dade County and the
City of Miami and we must have representation where all
people in this community will feel they have a part in this
government. Now, I know that you .are not against
districting. Your argument is that we should go to six
rather than four districts, and the problem with that is,
that the majority of this Commission does not want to go to
that large a Commission. That is the reason it is four
rather than six. One last thing I want to say to you - the
plan as proposed is very carefully drafted. It is totally
balanced. It is within the guidelines of the Supreme Court
of one man one vote, one person one vote and I am sure it
will be challenged legally, but I assure you that there has
been careful legal research and that it is our opinion that
{ it will stand the test of the court.
Mr. Fontroy: Well, let me respond by saying that one, the
at large voting scheme does not work to the best interests
of the minority Black community.
Mayor Ferre: Of course.
Mr. Fontroy: And given the proposed plan would give the
Black community one vote on a seven member board.
Mayor Ferre: Or three at large because Commissioner Dawkins
and Gibson before him were elected at large, and Athalie
Range before them, so the Black community has elected people
at large here. There is no reason why that couldn't
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continue. What it does do is guarantee that if that were to
fail, at least there would be one vote.
Mr. Fortroy: Well, in all due respect, if you look at the
community j- you take a ride through Miami and you look at
the community - the Black community is the only community
that does not have visible support. It in the only
community that does not have the same kind of development in
the business community as other communities and that is
indicative of misrepresentation, or no representation at the
government level. We feel that a fairer representation on
the Commission through six districts and the Mayor at large,
would give us a better representation and a better
opportunity to put our community in the mainstream of
development in the City of Miami. I would also like to
point out that as the proposed plan is drawn, that it has
violated the law of district compactness where you have one
district, I believe it is two, if I am not mistaken, maybe
it is three - I don't have the City proposed plan in front
of me. All of this has been elongated along the beaches of
Miami, and thereby to include one community and exclude
other communities and again, it has forced the Black
community to one district. We feel that that is unfair and
that we would be in opposition to that and you are right -
i we will be challenging that - hopefully then, we won't have
to get to that point - because we show that this is a very
fair plan, that it would represent the total community, that
every community would be represented properly and have
significant amount of votes on the Commission to accomplish
in each of our communities what some of our communities have
the most of. Thank you.
Mayor Ferre: Are there any other public speakers on the
Executive Mayor districting form? Yes, sir.
Mr. Roger Soman: My name is Roger Soman. I live at 3815
Main Highway in the City of Miami. I would like to urge the
Mayor and the Commissioners to give serious consideration to
j changing the date of the election from the special election
day to the normal election day inasmuch as the electorate
turns out in very small numbers. Thank you.
Mayor Ferre: Let me, since that is a serious matter of
contention and I think needs to be addressed. Mr. Soman,
' let me answer you by saying this. It is the intention of
those of us who have voted for this to implement this
governmental change should it pass for the election this
coming November. The problem with putting it on the
November ballot is that it could not then be implemented
until next election which would be in 1987 and I think there
is a need to move along on this matter and get it ... if the
people vote for it, I am sure they are going to want to have
it implemented immediately and not wait two years.
Mr. Soman: Mr. Mayor, we are going to have 16% or 17% of
the electorate voting on the issue if it is a special
election in the middle of the summer.
Mayor Ferre: Well, I
want to tell you that the way
politics
works in Miami, I absolutely
assure you that there
will not
be 16% and I guarantee you it will be a lot closer
to 50%.
I might point out to
you that the Mayor and the Commission
of Metropolitan Dade
County were elected with less
than 30%
turnouts and that has
never happened in the City of
Miami in
the last ... at least
in this decade. I might point
out to
you that we have had
elections where we have hit
close to
70% in totally local
elections. This community is a pro-
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active community at the ballot box.
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Mr. Soman: Very well
sir. Thank you.
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Mayor Ferre: Are there any other public speakers on this
issue? Yes, sir.
Mr. Mario Gomez: My name is Mario Gomez. My address is
2975 N. W. 15th Street. 1 came to speak just as a plain
citizen to explain it is not going to be on any ballot at
least for the recent. years. I have been studying the
proposition for an amendment to the draft in reference to
the increase in Commissioners and especially to have a
Commissioner by each district, for example for four
district, and I really like it very much and I will tell you
why. Analyzing this from the viewpoint of the voters, I
have had the experience that sometimes you go to make the
voting and you read the list and you don't know anybody
there. Maybe it is the fault of the citizen, I should
humbly recognize that ... we should know better our
politicians, but that is a human condition and I will say
that 80% or 90% of the people who are professional or have
their time working do not know enough about the politicians
and that, I think is against the idea of the election in a
democratic country, which you are supposed to elect freely
the best man for the positions. If you vote without knowing
the people, you are changing completely the idea of of a
free election. Increasing the number of Commissioners to
seven and having four districts and three Commissioners
including the Mayor elected at large, I think that would fit
very well in this City Hall. I am glad you said something
like that - very brilliant and with more knowledge than I
have and I really feel very happy about all of this.
Mayor Ferre: Are there any other speakers? If not, is
there a motion that the public hearing be stopped and then
we can get the Commission's deliberation.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, is it possible that we can take
both issues for discussion purposes and then we could go to
the both issues as far as a motion?
Mayor Ferre: Yes.
Mr. Plummer: We could speak to the expansion of the
Commission?
Mayor Ferre: No, I think what we need to do is to close off
public debate at this point. Is there such a motion?
Mr. Plummer: Seeing as how there is no one else indicated
that they wish to speak to either issue, I so move.
Mayor Ferre: Is there a second?
Mr. Perez: Second.
Mayor Ferre: Further discussion? All right, call the
motion on the closing of the public hearing.
MOTION TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING was moved and seconded
and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Demetrio Perez
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
Mayor Ferre: Now on Commission discussion, Mr. Plummer, I
recognize you.
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Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I have to put forth the opposition
that I put forth the other day, and that is into the fact of
the entire slate being wiped clean in 1985. I would have to
take under cohsideration, there has always been a history of
this Commission, in which there were members of this
Commission and I think rightfully so, that were a holdover
for a staggered situation. I still believe that that would
be good for this Commission and that you do propose in the
new proposal that there would be staggered terms and I just
would want to put that on the record, Mr. Mayor that I do
feel ... I likewise feel that if the strong mayor proposal
does pass today, that before it goes to an election I think
it has got to be clearly delineated as much as possible. As
to the full scope and authority, even to an expression by
the individual Commissioners present, as to the cost factor
of what it would cost. I think these are all important
factors that must be brought out so that the electorate of
this community could make an intelligent decision.
Mayor Ferre: I would like to, in the discussion portion
here, say that the editorial in the Miami Herald this
morning was an exceptionally well thought out and well
written editorial and whoever wrote it, did I think, a very
fine job and it was a very moderate, I think - I was
expecting a much stronger statement from the Herald, but I
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thought it was a very moderate and well thought out
decision. The thrust of it was two -fold and I think it is
important that we publicly - at least I would like to
publicly answer these points. The first, and most important
of the two, concerns, as expressed in the Herald editorial,
dealt with the issue of combining both the strong Mayor and
the district, the theory being that if they are both
together in one ballot, then it would be more palatable.
The Herald didn't say that it would be palatable. It just
expressed that it might be more palatable if it were one
vote. I subscribe to that theory. I think that there is
logic to it and I would like to point out for the record
that that was my intention from the very, very beginning and
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as a matter of fact, when this whole process began years
ago, that is the way I made the first motion and that is the
way it has been kept. Lucia Dougherty, our City Attorney,
and a good City Attorney, recommended to me in the beginning
discussions that it would be wiser and more legally
appropriate to separate the questions. Now, I talked to
First Amendment and Constitutional lawyers such as Dan Paul
and others who recommended that it be put together as one
question. The problem with that is that we also consulted
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with former Supreme Court Chief Arthur England and it was
Arthur England's position that it would be legally sounder
to separate the questions. Now, the argument goes that in
effect, the first proposal, that is the Executive Mayor, has
within the discussion that also deals with the districts, so
then why would there be a separation constitutionally or
legally that is challenged? and the answer is that it is
not a constitutional issue, but rather, it is a legal issue
and the question is that it would stand better chance of
surviving the attack that it obviously is going to have in
the courts if it were a separate issue. Now, the other
concern of the Herald editorial was that the Mayor should
not appoint the Director of Development because that would
lend itself to patronage. Well, in the case of Newark, the
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accusation is that even though the Mayor of Newark only
appoints the City Manager, as is the case of Washington,
D.C. Obviously, by that appointment he controls the
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Manager, so therefore patronage exists with or without that.
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In other words, there is not much of a difference. If the
Mayor appoints the Manager, and says I want Joe Blow to be
the Director of Development, then he is appointed directly -
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I think the question of patronage, one way or the other
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with and it exists in Atlanta and New York and Boston and
San Francisco. I might point out that I was recently in
Houston and listen to this i the Mayor of Houston, Texas has
full powers to appoint everybody and anybody without any
consultation of the legislative body; hires and fires not
only department heads, all department heads, but also hires
and fires all committee members of all committees in
Houston. It is without any question, the most powerful
mayor from a legal structure point of view in the United
States. The second most powerful mayor in the United States
is the Mayor of San Francisco. The Mayor of San Francisco,
in addition to having the traditional veto powers and the
powers that an executive has, has total powers of, in this
case, her discretion, to appoint all committees and all
members without the permission of any other person or body.
Now, this is not quite that drastic. This is a much more
modest proposal. It follows Philadelphia. The closest
example is Philadelphia and my answer to the Herald
editorial is this: In the City of Philadelphia like in the
City of Newark, the City of Washington and the City of
Atlanta, the Mayor in those cities appoints a Chief
Administrator with the consent of the legislative body, a
financial officer, a legal officer. That is the same thing
that the President does. The President appoints an Attorney
General with the consent of the Senate; appoints the
Secretary of the Treasury and appoints different
administrative functions. All we are trying to do in this
is to follow the example that is clearly established in
other cities in America following the American democratic
city government procedure. I don't think it makes that much
of a difference, and as I told Lucia earlier today - listen,
let's give in to the Herald in this small little thing and
let's out out these appointments of the Development ... but
her argument to me was it would jeopardize the legal
standing of this thing unless we go through a very careful
procedure of reading it twice, and it just isn't worth it,
so my position, therefore today that I will be voting with
this as it is drafted and as it has been proposed.
Mr. Perez: Mr. Mayor, we have two different questions
here - first, the Executive, or the Chief Executive Mayor,
or whatever you call the Strong Mayor system. That is the
first Charter Amendment, and the second one is the about the
districts and increasing the members of the Commission. I
have a proposal that I would like that this Commission
consider in reference to the Executive Mayor system. I am
in complete in favor of the Strong Mayor system with some
modifications. I think that this City at this time deserves
a better representation for a better government in order
that the Chief Executive be more accessible and more
accountable to the voters of the City of Miami. For that
reason I have different modifications that I would like to
propose to the City Attorney's office in order to have it
for consideration at the next regular Commission meeting and
about the second question, about the district
representation, I am completely in favor of the districts.
I think that that is a way to preserve the proper
representation for the group, but I think that in the City
Commission of the City of Miami will have the best balance
at this time, I think that if we adopt the Charter Amendment
Number one, we will have five members of the Commission plus
an Executive Mayor. This ... we will have the opportunity
for a new seat in the City Commission and also we'll have
the proper balance between the executive and the legislative
branch - I would like to present today a resolution to the
members of this Commission in order to appear to the Dade
County authorities in order to try to call the attention of
our County government to have district representation in
Dade County at this time. I think that the County requires,
due to the composition of this community, a better district
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representation and I think as representatives of a City with -
a population of about 400,000 people we have the opportunity
to make this request and after, in the future, when we hear
x;. from the bade County government, I would like to consider
4 again before the people of the City of Miami this issue, an
issue that was refused by the electorate a few years ago. In
other words, Mr. Mayor, I would like to present this
amendment that I would like to transfer to the City
Attorney's office in order to give proper consideration to
the Charter Amendment Number one for the next regular
Commission meeting supporting the concept of the Strong
Mayor with some modifications to be discussed ... if the
City Attorney considers and accepts that it is not a
substantial modification, I am in complete agreement to
discuss all of this issue today and it is only pending for
the City Attorney's office.
Mayor Ferre: Commissioner Perez, obviously you have been
doing your homework on this and I commend you for that. You
are now at 6:13 P.M. passing this out for us to look at.
You obviously by doing this will be putting off the Charter
Amendment Number one and there will be no election obviously
on July 9th. Now, as I understood what you have said, is
that you were in favor of submitting the Strong Mayor
proposal but not the districting at this time, so what you
are doing now by changing this substantially is in effect
deferring the whole thing. Is that correct?
Mr. Perez: I would like to hear the opinion of the City
Attorney. I don't think that it is a proper change ...
Mayor Ferre: Yes, but you see, this is obviously a serious
matter, and you have had this for quite some time. Have you
given it to the City Attorney for her review during the day?
Mr. Perez: No.
Mayor Ferre: Then how can she make a decision:
Mr. Perez: Because I think anyhow we have to discuss item
by item in order to have the proper opinion of each member.
I don't have any interest to obstruct this election in July
and I think we have enough time if the City Attorney ...
Mayor Ferre: All right, if you will pass these things out
and we will go over it one by one to see if there is any
substantial changes.
Mr. Perez: Sure, in order ...
Mayor Ferre: Would you pass it to the City Attorney and
other members of the Commission so they can share your
thoughts on this?
Mr. Perez: I presented, Mr. Mayor, while you were out of
this room, also a resolution requesting that the Dade County
adopt the district system in Dade County. Also, something
important about the district system. After we studied the
whole proposition, we found no staggering of terms, for
example, we would have eight members Commission board, that
is seven members plus an Executive Mayor - we would have in
1989 four members elected by district that have to go to
election again - two members elected at large would be
elected again in 1989 and the Mayor is supposed to be ... we
only would have one member with experience in the Commission
in 1989 and I think that is something we have to take into
consideration. Do you think that would be proper for the
next zoning Commission meeting to include that as the first
item in the agenda? Mrs. City Attorney, do you think it
would be proper - we have enough time for the next
Commission meeting?
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Mrs. Dougherty: We have enough time for the next Commission
meeting.
Mr. Perez: What 1 am trying to modify, Mr. Mayor, is to
create a real balance between the Commission and the
Executive Mayor, you know? I have had the opportunity to
read the whole issue. I don't share several properties that
are assigned to the Executive Mayor.
Mayor Ferre: You see, my only problem with all of this,
Commissioner Perez, is that you have had all this time to
make these changes and you bring them out at 6:13 P.M. at
the evening of a vote. Obviously, I don't know whether you
realize this - I think you do; your intention obviously, is
to kill the whole project, so you have killed itt This is a
total defeat by your action of the issue of the strong
mayor. Now, I want to tell you publicly that you are, with
your actions, defeating this issue, and you are entitled to
do that, but don't come telling me later on that you are for
the strong mayor when you come out with this kind of change.
Mr. Perez: Let me make clear again my position in this
issue and I don't think that I have killed this project. I
think that I have expressed my concerns and think that I am
trying to protect what is the real functions of the City
Commission. I think that we cannot compare the system of the
City of Miami with other ... for example, if we compare with
Newark, wwith Atlanta with other Charters that we have to
study, there are a lot of differences and that is what we
are trying to fill in this case. I think that we have
enough time for the next Zoning Commission meeting.
Mayor Ferre: All I can say to you sir, is what a joke!
Let's move on. Make your motion and let's move along. This
is nothing but a joke!
Mr. Carollo: Mr. Mayor, I have to agree with you. Let me
say this publicly. I think Mayor Ferre has acted very
responsibly for this whole process of looking to change the
City Charter in the most responsible way and manner for the
City of Miami. This has never been an issue that should
have depended upon who the person is that is going to sit
in the Chair. It is an issue that should be looked upon as
to what is the best form of government that the City should
have - whether it is the City Manager that you, the public
do not vote for, or should it be a Mayor that will have the
responsibility that goes along, and should go along with a
position such as that and that if you don't feel that he is
doing an adequate job, you can vote him out of office like
happened in Chicago recently and other major American
cities. Just about every major American city in these
United States has an Executive Mayor, a Strong Mayor, if you
want to call it, form of government. Unfortunately, there
are some that do not want to dedicate the time to the
Mayorship that it requires. Being a Mayor of Miami, don't
kid yourself, requires a lot of time. In fact, it requires
a lot more time than being a City Commissioner. I dedicate,
like my other Commission colleagues do, a lot of time to
this position, but the Mayor dedicates even more time. That
goes along with the responsibility of the job. I feel
however, that there have been those out there that want the
position (T A P E 1 4) of Mayor, but do not want to
have the responsibilities. They still want to be able to
run other business, their stores, their banks, what have you
and give a small percentage of their time to the Mayorship
of Miami and I am sorry that one of our colleagues that from
the start was saying he wanted this, finally has caved in to
some of the last minute shenanigans and pressures that some
out there that only have their best interests at heart, have
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pulled. We could have saved a lot of time to this
Commission, to this City if people would have put their
cards on the table from the start. But here we have gone
this whole process, we have spent countless hours of City
Attorney's office time, City Clerk's, to many departments,
our time, the public's, and now to come up with frankly, a
ridiculous idea such as this that would definitely kill this
proposal and say that, "Well, I am really for a strong mayor
form of government" - that is not being up front! That is
trying to justify something that is not justifiable at this
point in time.
Mayor Ferre:
change in the
you have just
If there has ever been proof of the need of a
structure of government, Ladies and Gentlemen,
seen it here.
Mr. Dawkins: Mr. Mayor, I beg to differ, simply because my
colleague over here said, this is a parttime position and
others have other things to do. I said from Day one that
this was too much of an important issue for us to attempt to
railroad it through like this, and as you said, if there is
any good example of that, it is this - the Commissioner has
had time to go through this and look at the things that he
didn't approve oft And because he took his time and arrived
at a decision that he can live with, we are going to condemn
himt I don't think that is fair; I think that is grossly
unjust of us to say that because a Commissioner took this
and took his time to evaluate it and come back to us and say
"Look, yes, I am with it, but I am with it only if these
modifications are made", and personally, I am not saying it
because I am not in favor of it, see, because the City of
Miami has operated since 1896 with a strong mayor form of
government, ... strong manager; - Miami is in its infancy,
Miami is just started to become the great city that it is
going to become and now that we have all of these things on
the drawing board and ready to move, we are going to change
the form of government and then go back instead of continue
with progress be narrowed down in a change of government.
It is just unfair for me, for us to sit, for any of us, and
that is all five of us, I mean the public has a right ...
Mayor Ferre: Commissioner, speak for yourself. Don't speak
for me.
Mr. Dawkins: It is unfair in my opinion. Is that clear
enough for you?
Mayor Ferre: That is clear enough for me.
Mr. Dawkins: All right, then. See, when you ...
(INAUDIBLE BACKGROUND COMMMENTS)
Mayor Ferre: You are out of order please, Mr. Herman.
Mr. Dawkins: Mr. Herman, the public will decide. Now
listen closely to what I am saying, sir. It will be those
individuals who reside, paid taxes and live in the City of
Miami, okay? Those are the individuals who will decide
this, okay? So, I will ...
Mayor Ferre: All right, anybody elser wishing to make a
statement on this fiasco that we have gone through? All
right, as I understand it then, Items 26, 27 and 28 are now
dead, and 29. I will accept any motions of any kind on any
of these items that any members of this Commission wish to
make.
Mr. Perez: Mr. Mayor, the first thing, I never tried to
kill this motion. My motion will be we transfer this
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proposition to the City Attorney's office to have the proper
recommendation for the next Zoning Commission meeting and to
have it included as the first item in the agenda and also
15- that each member of this Commission = 1 don't know the other
members, but in my own case, I never had the opportunity to
meet with the City Attorney or with the proper persons in
this case to discuss this issue and I would like to have
that opportunity before the next regular Commission meeting
and to try to have consent on this issue.
Mayor Ferre: All right, the Commissioner has passed this
item on to you, Madam City Attorney, and you heard his
instructions, and I don't have any objections. Anybody ...?
Mr. Plummer: Well, Mr. Mayor, I think procedurally
shouldn't that be a motion to defer?
Mayor Ferre: All right, I will accept that as a motion,
Commissioner Perez.
Mr. Carollo: Madam ...
Mr. Perez: Motion to defer.
Mayor Ferre: All right, this is a motion that Items 26, 27,
28 and 29 be deferred to the next Commission meeting. There
is a second on that.
Mr. Carollo: Madam City Attorney, if we can get your legal
advice as to just what the Commissioner's resolution would
do to this amendment. Does it not put it in a position that
would make it impossible to have the public hearings that we
would need to to pass any new formation that he would like
to come up with between November in order to hold an
election. In other words, we would not be able to hold an
election until November.
Mrs. Dougherty: No, conceivably, if you pass this again on
first reading at your next Commission meeting, then you
would have another Commission meeting ten days later and
passed in on second reading, you could have your election
July 23rd, 60 days after the second reading.
Mayor Ferre: You would have to have the second reading on
the 3rd of June, and if you did that, you could also go
beyond that, because you could have the election on the 30th
of July.
Mrs. Dougherty: Yes. Now, your qualifying dates for your
November election for Commissioners would be on September
11th, would be the last day of qualifying.
Mayor Ferre: Which is 45 days before, so obviously that
wouldn't give too much time and effectively I think by doing
this, I think it is a dead issue because you are not giving
the people of Miami sufficient time to understand what this
is all about.
Mr. Perez: But if we have to defer, what we defer is the
second reading. Don't you think that we have an opportunity
... I think that if you have the opportunity to meet with
each member of this Commission, individually, you know,
maybe we don't have a substantial change. We can come in at
the next Zoning Commission meeting, the 23rd, with the
second reading again and it will be ready for the special
election.
Mrs. Dougherty: I will look at it from that point of view,
but my best advice at this time would be passing it twice.
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Mayor Ferre: All right, we have a motion and a second and
is there further discussion on this? Call the roll.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner
Perez, who Moved its adoption:
MOTION NO. 85-515
A MOTION DEFERRING AGENDA ITEMS NOS. 26,
27, 28, 29 OF TODAY'S AGENDA DEALING
WITH PROPOSED CHARTER AMENDMENTS NOS. 1
AND 29 TO THE NEXT CITY COMMISSION
MEETING FOR FURTHER INFORMATION FROM THE
CITY ATTORNEY.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the motion
was passed and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
NOES: Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
ABSENT: None.
ON ROLL CALL:
Mr. Carollo: For the purposes of discussing the matter, I
vote yes.
Mayor Ferre: Just as a matter of principle, I vote no.
Mr. Dawkins: Has it always been the policy of a
Commissioner request ... never mind. Thank you. Go ahead,
Mayor Ferre: Hey, you got what you wanted. Don't push it.
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57. AWARD BID: REAGAN EQUIPMENT CO. FOR INSTALLING
EMERGENCY GENERATOR SET TO DEPT. OF BUILDING AND VEHICLE
MAINTENANCE.
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Mayor Ferre: All right, we are now on the public hearings.
Mr. Dawkins: Mr. Mayor, the Manager has asked me to move
Item 13 from the consent agenda - 13, 14, 18, and 21. So
moved, please.
Mr. Carollo: You would have to vote upon them individually,
would you not?
Mr. Dawkins: Not a Consent Agenda.
Mr. Carollo: Well, you said take them out completely. We
are not going to vote upon this?
Mr. Pereira: Can't hear you.
Mr. Dawkins: I took them out already.
Mr. Carollo: Do you want to vote on those?
Mr. Dawkins: Yes, yes these only.
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Mr. Pereira: On those = just on those.
Mr. Carollo: Because if we pull those out, we have to vote
upon them individually.
Mr. Dawkins: Yes.
Mr. Pereira: Yes, whatever the procedure is.
Mr. Carollo: Yes, we would have to vote upon them
individually, not as a whole.
Mr. Pereira: Right.
Mr. Dawkins: So I move 13.
Mayor Ferre: Item 13, it has been moved and seconded. Who
seconded it?
Mr. Carollo: Second it.
Mayor Ferre: Further discussion? Call the roll on Item 13.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner
Dawkins, who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 85-516
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BID OF REAGAN
EQUIPMENT CO. FOR FURNISHING AND INSTALLING
AN EMERGENCY GENERATOR SET TO THE DEPARTMENT
OF BUILDING AND VEHICLE MAINTENANCE AT A
TOTAL COST OF $22,012.00; ALLOCATING FUNDS
THEREFOR FROM THE 1984-85 OPERATING BUDGET
OF THAT DEPARTMENT; AUTHORIZING THE CITY
MANAGER TO INSTRUCT THE ASSISTANT CHIEF
PROCUREMENT OFFICER TO ISSUE A PURCHASE
ORDER FOR THIS EQUIPMENT.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here
and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Carollo, the
resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
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58. AWARD BID: HEWLETT PACKARD CO. - MICROWAVE SIGNAL
GENERATOR ETC.
r-rrrrrr rrrrrr-r-rr rrr rrrrrrrrr-r-r-rrrr-r---r-r------rrr-rr
Mr. Dawkins:
please.
Mr. Carollo:
At the request of the Manager, Item 14,
Moved.
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Mayor Ferre: It has been :roved and seconded. Call the roll
on 14.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner
Carollo, who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 85-517
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BID OF HEWLETT-
PACKARD COMPANY FOR FURNISHING A MICROWAVE
FREQUENCY COUNTER, MICROWAVE SIGNAL
GENERATOR, SIGNAL GENERATOR, DISTORTION
MEASUREMENT SET, 100 MHz UNIVERSAL COUNTER,
AM/FM SIGNAL GENERATOR, FUNCTION GENERATOR,
AND AN AC VOLTMETER AT A TOTAL PROPOSED COST
OF $469345.00; ALLOCATING FUNDS THEREFOR
FROM THE 1984-85 OPERATING BUDGET OF THE
DEPARTMENT OF BUILDING AND VEHICLE
MAINTENANCE; AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO
INSTRUCT THE ASSISTANT CHIEF PROCUREMENT
OFFICER TO ISSUE PURCHASE ORDERS FOR THIS
EQUIPMENT.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here
and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Dawkins, the
resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Demetric Perez, Jr.
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
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59• AWARD BID: INFOTRON SYSTEM CORP. - THREE (3)
COMMUNICATION NETWORK CONCENTRATORS.
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Mr. Dawkins: Item 181 please.
Mayor Ferre: Is there a second? Is there a second on Item
18? Do you second it?
Mr. Perez: Yes.
Mayor Ferre: Further discussion? Call the roil on Item 18.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner
Dawkins, who moved its adoption:
Id
RESOLUTION NO. 85-518
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BID OF INFOTRON
SYSTEM CORP. FOR FURNISHING THREE (3)
COMMUNICATION NETWORK CONCENTRATORS ON A
LEASE/PURCHASE AGREEMENT OVER THREE (3) YEAR
PERIOD TO THE DEPARTMENT OF BUILDING AND
VEHICLE MAINTENANCE AT A TOTAL ESTIMATED
AMOUNT OF $140,333.00; ALLOCATING FUNDS
THEREFOR FROM THE FIRE AND POLICE FISCAL
YEAR 84-85 TELEPHONE ACCOUNT; AUTHORIZING
THE CITY MANAGER TO INSTRUCT THE ASSISTANT
CHIEF PROCUREMENT OFFICER TO ISSUE A
PURCHASE ORDER FOR THIS EQUIPMENT.
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(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here
and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Perez, the
resolution was passed and ad^pted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
60. LONG PUBLIC HEARING COANCERNING DISPOSITION OF PUBLIC
LIBRARY BUILDING LOCATED IN BAYFRONT PARK.
(a)PROCEED WITH IMPLEMENTATION OF BATFRONT PARK
REDEVELOPMENT - NO DECISION ON LIBRARY PENDING MONIES,
ETC.
(b) PREPARE BOND ISSUE FOR PUBLIC VOTE ON ANTICIPATED
SHORTFALL TO COMPLETE REDEVELOPMENT OF BAYFRONT PARK.
Mayor Ferre: We are now on the public hearing for 6:00 P.M.
which is public hearing item number 60. Mr. Manager, do you
have anything you wish to say at the opening of this
discussion? ... on this issue?
Mr. Pereira: Are you talking about the library? Yes, sir.
On this item we have submitted to you the information you
have requested in terms of some of the costs associated with
questions raised by Vice -Mayor Carollo. We have also
submitted to you a memorandum that has been distributed in
terms of the Bayfront Park Redevelopment Project and the
encumbered and expended funds as it relates to the design
services that have been performed on this project, on two
separate agreements - one with Isamu Noguchi and the other
one with Fuller and Sadao. That is the information that we
have, sir.
Mr. Carollo: Can you go over that publicly, Mr. Manager,
and make sure that we understand it correctly and it is
placed in the record?
Mr. Pereira: You want me to read the information? f
Mr. Carollo: Please, if you would, since we've just
received that.
Mr. Pereira: Encumbered and expended funds to Isamu
Noguchi, current professional services agreement with the
City, we encumbered $250,000 and we have expended $250,000.
Mr. Carollo: We paid him $250,000 up to now?
Mr. Pereira: We have paid that amount of money.
Mr. Plummer: But there has been a lot more money been paidi
Mayor Ferre: Wait, wait. I have a memorandum that has been
passed out here - for the record, it says that the total
expenditure is $657,000 so far in this project, and that
committed, in other words, encumbered, is a total of
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it
$9761950. In other words, the City of Miami has paid, or
will have to pay up to $10009000 if this Bayfront Park
Project is abandoned. That is what we have in it at this
time. I am not saying that it will be, but I'm .....
Mr. Carollo: Well, of course, Mr. Mayor, you mean if the
whole project would be abandoned.
Mayor Ferre: I'm sorry?
Mr. Carollo: Of, course, you mean if the whole project
would be abandoned, which of courwe, we would not do that
... abandon the whole project.
Mayor Ferre: Of course, I understand that. All right, is
there anything else?
Mr. Pereira: That is it.
Mayor Ferre: All right, this is a public hearing. I would
like for now, by a show of hands, see how many people wish
to address the Commission this evening. Raise you hands.
Those that wish to speak to the Commission. (NOTE: Mayor
counts hands) Keep you hands up so I can count - 23. All
right, is there anybody who ...
Mr. Carollo: Excuse me, sir. Before we start with the
public speaking, if I may make a request of the
Administration.
Mayor Ferre: Go right ahead.
Mr. Carollo: So as while the public is speaking, maybe they
can locate that for us. What I would like to have from the
Administration is if they can locate for us, either a
picture or any other kind of visual design of the complete
design and final design, should I say, that was made by Mr.
Noguchi, so we can see how many entrances there are to the
park, and all the additional things that have been placed in
it. Is there one around?
Mr. Pereira: Yes, he is on his way in.
Mr. Carollo: Good.
Mayor Ferre: Now, of the 23 public speakers ...
Mr. Carollo: This is a map that we have, Mr. Manager, and
what we need is a picture at least, of the design.
Mayor Ferre: Don't do that, because you are blocking people
and they get upset when you do that.
Mr. Carollo: You can save it for later. That will be fine.
Just place it down if you like.
Mayor Ferre: Place it down so people can have an
opportunity. All right now, we have 23 public speakers and
of course I will not deny others the right to speak if they
wish to. Does anybody need to speak more than three minutes
on this issue? Anybody here wish to speak more than three
minutes? Nobody? All right now, the last thing I have to
ask is, there are some of you who have time constraints. I
understand there are planes to be caught. I will take those
people out of order. Is there anybody here who needs to be
out of here, either very quickly, because I would like ...
Dr. Aguirre, would you state the reason why y.lu have to
leave, for the record?
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Dr. Horacin Aguirre: Thank you very much, Mr. Mayor.
Horacio Aguirre, Diaro Los Americas and also I am a member
of the Bayfront Park Committee. 1 have to take a plane to
go to the Far East for the International Press Conference
and for that reason, I would appreciate very much if you
permit one to say a few words before 1 have to leave. I
would like to say that any measure that would now hinder the
plans to go ahead with the construction of the new Bayfront
Park would be detrimental for our City. However, if work is
not begun before May 31st, part of the Federal money,
actually $6,0009000 committed for this great park will be
lost. The removal of the old public library building is
essential for work to proceed. Keeping that building there
would in no way compensate the immense harm that would be
done to our city if the park is not built. This park will
be an important step in the revitalization of this area. It
would be the only area in downtown Miami, for the enjoyment
and recreation of Miamians and tourists alike. Furthermore,
the City of Miami Commissioners have already approved the
park including the removal of the library building many
months ago. I think that to back up on this now would only
serve to tarnish the prestige of our municipal authority.
It is not only my opinion, but it is the opinion of many
people, that we in Diaro Los Americas have been consulted by
us about this important project that you have discussed this
evening. Thank you very much.
Mayor Ferre: I will take up the next speaker in the order
that they step to the microphone. Would the next speaker
also come to this microphone so that in the interest of time
we could move along. Whoever wishes to speak next.
Mr. WillyGort: Mr. Mayor, m name is Will Gort. I live
at 2660 N. W. 48th Avenue and the Executive Director of
Downtown Miami Business Association. In 1982 the Downtown
Business Association passed a resolution. We want to see
the complete Master Plan of Downtown Miami and Bayfront Park
redesign take place. The biggest thing that we looked in
the Library - the problem that we have with the library, and
we can appreciate some of the Commission looking at this and
1
trying to save money for the City by utilizing the existing
3
building, but unfortunately in order for the Master Plan to
really work for Downtown Miami and open the doors and really
making a pedestrian place and making it attractive and
connecting Bayfront Park to Riverwalk and the Bayside
Project with the Flagler Street Corridor, would be by
knocking down the library. If we leave the library up, that
will be like a stop sign for individuals who are using the
Riverwalk and they are using the avenue behind the
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fountain - the people who go in to see the fountain would
not be able to see Flagler Street vis-a-vis people, which
are millions of people walking through Flagler Street would
not be able to see the bay or the fountain, and that is why
we think the library should be knocked down. Thank you.
Mayor Ferre: All right, next speaker. Sure, Mr. Worth.
Mr. Russell Worth: Mr. Mayor and Honorable Commissioners.
My name is Russell Worth. I am managing partner of Worth
and Company and I am a full time resident of California and
a part time resident of Miami as a result of 15 months work
within the company development team, seeking to bring into
Miami $430,000,000 for a 2.5 million square foot multi -use
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complex on the Ball Point, just south of the park. We will
be building this to successful world class standards. It
will be a world landmark for Miami. The towers will be 61
and 49 stories high, but more important, it will be a mini -
urban village filled with vitality and life and designed to
bring greater population, greater activity, greater
employment to the downtown. It will ultimately employ
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approximately 10,000 people. We have done the preliminary
work. We have taken the risks. We have spent the funds to
create the format for this project. We have had outstanding
cooperation from the City and the City authorities. As a
result of our planning, which has been dependent upon the
commitment of the City to build Bayfront Park, we are in a
position, we hope to attract this type of investment funds.
It is an uphill and difficult struggle to attract. The funds
go frankly where they are welcome and where they can count
on the contractural obligation of the city, the undertakings
of the city. Here we have relied on the Commission's plans,
which are outstanding for the park. We salute their
activity. We salute those plans. They have a tremendr.us
impact upen our investment, upon the well-being and
opportunity for all Miamians to have an open green area. We
think it would be a disaster to block the Noguchi plan t�^
put a structure there that does block it. We want to
support the Commission's original plan - support the Noguchi
design, and we also wish to compliment the Commission and
Bayside on their activity in the north of the park. We hope
to be good citizens to the south of the park. Our work is
very much dependent upon the Noguchi design for Bayfront
Park. Thank you very much.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Worth, before you sit down, I ap:logize.
I was talking t: my colleague here. I would like to ask you
j
a question, if I may, and I apologize because I was
distracted and didn't get the full impact of your statement.
You are considering making a very major investment in
Downtown Miami. Investments of this sort are of course key
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to the prosperity of Miami. If I have done anything in the
years that I have been year, it is certainly been to induce
people to invest substantial amounts of money in the
downtown area so that our tax base would increase. When I
first started to serve the people of Miami, our tax base was
less than $25,000,000. I would hope that soon, in the next
few years it will be close to $100,000,000. There is nc
other city that has had that kind of a growth record and it
is mainly due to people like yourself, from California, from
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New York, from other parts that have seen a future in Miami
and have invested accordingly. Mr. Gould, wh:%
unfortunately we are having problems with, has a tax bill,
or whoever owns his property, that will be a lien against
our property of $5,000,000 to this community. In other
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words, if Mr. Gould did not have the vision for what he
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thought would be a good investment, he would not have
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invested what he has. He did so partly hyping that this
park would be built as designed. He made some commitments
which we talked about today which he has not lived up
but the point is that people like yourself are investors.
Now, I didn't catch the full thrust of your statement, but I
would like to know, how important to your investment plan is
the execution of the beautification of this park as
proposed?
Mr. Worth: Mr. Mayor, one way to demonstrate it is an
internal planning document of our group. It is an 80 page
document summarizing our investment plan. It is a result of
15 month's work. It's intended internally, it is a
confidential document. 18 pages of that 80 page document
are renderings and analyses of Bayfront Park and its impact
on our investment. The report in the document says that
Bayfront Park and the Noguchi design are going forward. We
look forward to being the southern anchor of that park. Our
retail facilities would provide world class quality retail.
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The excellent facilities of Ba side will be festival retail.
The park will be the green in between those two quality
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projects, so the park is an integral and critical part of
our plan. The investment community looking at it,
furthermore makes a judgment. I don't have that
$4300009000. I must attract it. I can't say that I will
succeed. We will have a tremendous effort. We are in the
process now, but W0,000000 will go, as we are competing
in Miami. Worth and Company is competing for those funds
with every other city in America, with every other city in
the world, and the funds will go to that city which
basically investors feel honors the contract, creates a
great quality of life, is a great metropolitan center and
where they can rely on the city's plans. Here in fact,
there is no legal obligation, but we are relying on the
City's plans. Our ability to attract these funds is
materially impacted by the Isamu Noguchi Bayfront Park. We
urge you to support it.
Mayor Ferre: Thank you, Mr. Worth. We do hope ycu are
successful. We need your $430,000,000.
Mr. Worth: Thank you. I need all of your support. Thane:
you.
Mayor Ferre: Thank you. All right, next speaker?
Mrs. Margaret Pace Burton: Mr. Mayor, I don't have that
money for you, but I am Margaret Pace Burton, past Presideht
of the Miami Woman's Club and the Chairman of the Advisory
Committee. Having lived here since 1917 and having watched
that park created, it is a very dear park to me. The club
was organized in 1900, before I was born. Shortly thereafter
we created the first library in the City of Miami. It
became the Flagler Memorial Library. The club had prominent
women who helped create a City of Miami. There is a story
that the time that the building, the present library
building was to be placed in the park, the grounds were
broken the day that five prominent Miami women were out of
town and it was said that this was the time to do it, for
they knew that the women in Miami and the Miami Woman's Club
did not approve of the present building in the park. We
have continued that stance. We love the park. We love
Miami, but we feel that that building must be removed that
is at the foot of Flagler Street. It should never have been
there. Please, take it away!
Mayor Ferre: Next speaker.
Mr. Bill Braymeyer: Mr. Mayor and Commissioners, my name is
Bill Braymeyer. My office address is 14105 N. W. 58th
Court. On behalf of the Certified Plumbers of South Florida
.
Mayor Ferre: Certified what?
Mr. Braymeyer: Certified Plumbers of South Florida, sir. No
relation!
Mr. Plummer: I am not certified!
Mr. Braymeyer: I am also Chairman of the Construction
Industry Advisory Council. Mr. Mayor, this project is vital
to the City of Miami and we urge you to keep Flagler Street
clear — go ahead with the plans for the park and bring these
new projects in. Thank you.
Mayor Ferre: Next speaker? Are there any other public
speakers at this time?
Mr. James McDonald: Mr. Mayor, my name is James McDonald, I
am an attorney with McDermott, Will and Emery in Miami.
I've been practicing in law in Miami for alm:,st 10 years and
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I'd just like tosay a few words in support of knocking the
Library down. I travel around the country a loto I have
seen other cities where they are redeveloping downtown, I am
a former member of the Downtown Business Association. I
think it would be tragic to keep the Library building where
" it is, blooking Plegler Street from the Bay, disrupting the
Park and disrupting the plans that have been made. I think
Miami is on the verge of a great re -discovery for tourism
and for the people that live here and I think to keep that
building there would be a great mistake for the long range
growth and future of downtown so I urge you to knock it
down.
Mayor Ferre: Thank you, sir. Next speaker.
Mr. Dan Horton: Thank you, Mr. Mayor, Commissioners, my
name is Dan Horton representing the South Florida AFL-CIO,
office at 2409 N.W. 17th Avenue. I also rise to speak in
favor of taking the Library down. I have been here many
times with this Commission. We are very proud of the fact
that our people have been extremely supportive at every
opportunity of your efforts to revitalize this City since s^
many of our people live within and have grown up here. The
plan designed through Mr. Noguchi and the Bayside, Rouse,
the entire project, and I apologize if I pronounced it
wrong, my apologies to the gentleman - my southern accent
sometimes prevails - but the plan and the concept of what is
evolved within the City is truly on the verge of making this
one of the great cities of the world. The Library removal,
has been discussed in front of this Commission before and at
that time the Commission voted to remove that. The plans
were drawn with that in mind. At this point, to go back and
re -do them I think is a disservice to all the work that s^
many people put into it. More importantly, it truly does
not reflect the best of the City. The building, and I don't
agree it necessarily should not have been there, when I was
a younger man it was a very popular place to go, it was an
excellent library, it was one of the few in the City at that
time, in the County, actually, that had good facilities.
But it has had its time and its day and as all things change
it should too and I would suggest you stay with the original
design and remove the Library. I tell you all of our people
are in favor of that position, if the Commission will
indulge us we would be happy to have several others come up
here and state that for the record. But we believe the
Library should go and the original plan should be enforced
and keep Miami building a beautiful City. Thank you, sir.
Mayor Ferre: All right, next speaker.
Mr. William Ader: Gentlemen, my name is William Ader. I
reside at 1800 N. Bayshore Drive. I have lived and worked
in Miami for the past 30 years. 30 years ago I built a 70
unit apartment building at 18th Street and Bayshore and at
the same time I put in a club and restaurant which has been
operating continuously since then. And to give you a
feeling of businessmen in the area, or certainly my feeling,
I know that it has been very difficult for the last five
years. In 1980 our business dropped almost in half and we
have literally, myself and my family, have been hanging on
by our fingernails to maintain that property and to be able
to stay in business and I can see that gradually things are
turning up and for the better. It is my feeling that when
the Park is finished as according to Mr. Noguchi's plans and
when Bayside is completed it is going to be a tremendous
help to all of the businessmen and as far north as 18th
Street. Gentlemen, I implore you to go ahead with your
plan, tear the park down as you have committed to do and
let's get going and make Miami as strong as I know it is
going to be. Thank you.
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Mayor Ferre: Thank you, next speaker, Mr. Fine.
Mr. Martin Fine: For the record, any name is Martin Fine.
Mr. Mayor and members of the Commission, I'm proud to be
here as Chairman elect of the Greater Miami Chamber of
Commerce and to share with you the fact that the New World
Center Action Committee of the Chamber which is responsible
for assisting you in the redevelopment of downtown Miami and
endorsed by the entire Chamber has passed a resolution, a
copy of which I'd like to ask the Manager to distribute to
you - back in early May, reaffirming its position to remove
the Library. Very candidly, we see this as a matter of the
Integrity of the development process and the integrity of
the City of Miami both in terms of what someone like Mr.
Worth said and what people who have invested multi -millions
of dollars in this community and are being asked to do s.i
again will be able to rely on plans and dreams and hopes of
what developers and this City is trying to do. I think
there is a lot of confusion as to whether or not you did or
did not pass a certain ordinance or when you did it or hcw
you did it. I think that is to some extent immaterial.
What is really material is what will it take to make this
area a great urban water oriented park? It is very clear to
me that what we need to do is remove that Library, more
importantly, it has cleared 1,800 members of the Chamber of
Commerce that what we would like to do is to remove that
Library and build a great park. I think some of the concern
about removing the library centers around whether one does
or does not care for the particular plan and it has gotten
to be a particular name for the person who designed it who
happens, in the opinion of most people, to be one of the
great artists in the world. But that really isn't the
point. The point is that Bayside has the potential for
being one of the great economic generators in the history of
this community. It is people oriented, it is going to
create jobs, it is going to create employment, it is going
to be one of the best things that has ever happened to this
community. And as the Chamber of Commerce, we implore you
to take whatever steps are necessary including the rem:val
of this Library to get the Rouse Company to build something
great for this community. Thank you.
Mayor Ferre: All right, yes, ma'am.
Ms. Nickie Sakko: My name is Nickie Sakko. I have been a
resident here for ten years and I came from Chicago and
Chicago has done wonderful things with its waterfront. I
was disappointed when I came down and knew I was going to
live in Miami, I thought oh, water everywhere, but you can't
get to it and you can't see it. I think Daniel Burnham who
did the plan for Chicago realized something many many years
ago and that was you don't put buildings where the people
are supposed to be so they can enjoy the water and when you
started doing the plans for the Noguchi Park I was very
pleased that finally the people would have access to the
park without being blocked by the building. I appreciate
Mr. Carollo's interest in saving the City money and I think
that is wonderful, but I think that we have gone over this
ground and over this ground when we made the decision to get
rid of the building for the better good. And I would like
just to say that I hope this building won't be used as a
political issue when we have so much at stake here and we
can end up with a fabulous park with one "of the world's
greatest artists and it will make us all feel so much
better. I hope that you would get rid of it and get on with
the good work that you plan. Thank you.
Mr. Carollo: If you would, - Mr. Mayor, may I make a brief
statement? She mentioned Chicag.^ and it's a City I knrw
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quite well since I grew up in Chicago as a very young roan.
The difference between what you're saying and part of the
difference between what is happening to our downtown Miami
Is two -fold. Number one, you are correct, the shoreline of
Chicago is planned touch better with parks, with beaches that
were accessible from Lakeshore Drive in Chicago. The
difference though, is that, and I'm not going to start
talking about how we should not have built on the bay side
of Brickell, which we should not have, that should have been
open space and we should have built the buildings across
Brickell. But, I'm not going to suggest that we tear all
those buildings down, you know, it is just like when you go
in to develop an area you don't blow up a mountain or dry up
a river, I'm not going to suggest that. The difference of
Chicago and downtown Miami is two -fold (1) the reason y;u
have so many people going to those parks that are adjacent
to downtown Chicago is police presence - police presence
that you do not see in the evenings in downtown Miami or in
any of those parks. Secondly, the parking rates in Chicago
are a lot more reasonable and there is a lot more parking
accessible to the public than there is in downtown Miami.
In downtown Miami you have to pay between $4.00 and $6.00 an
hour to park there. I think that one of the main reasons
that you have the night life that you have in dow't:wr,
Chicago and the parks adjacent to the bay of dcwnt�wn
Chicago are those two: (1) very adequate police protecti^n -
people feel secure and (2) the parking is a lot more
reasonable than it is here.
Mayor Ferre: All right, sir.
Mr. Art Fernandez: Mr. Mayor and Commission, my name is Art
Fernandez. I'm the business manager of the Electrical
Workers, one of the 17 crafts that is very instrumental in
seeing the Library to be either - I wouldn't say destroyed,
but I concur with Marty Fine and also it is not fair to the
Rouse people to come in here with the contract, stalling
this project and if Dade county is going to grow and the
city of Miami is going to grow, and fortunately I was one of
the Cuban Americans that was born in Miami, my father came
from Cuba in 1926. He might have landed on the Library
there when he came from Cuba. But what I'm saying is that I
remember, I was born and raised in Miami 46 years ago. I've
seen the growth of the City of Miami and, of course, we have
sentimental values of certain projects that you'd hate t. be
removed or torn down but that is progress. There used to be
a library where the old Nash Building was, that used to be
my paper route when I was 12 years old. I hated to see that
library go. But look at the expansion of the City of Miami,
the growth, due to you people. I concur with this young
lady here - why should politics be involved? Why stall? I
think on with the program and believe me, I represent 17
crafts, roughly 3009000 to 400,000 working people of Dade
County and this will put a lot of people to work.
Mayor Ferre: Archie, I have to do this to you but I've got
Claude Pepper and I've been telling a couple of times that
I'm going to put him on and the moment I say that he starts
speaking, so I'd better put him on. Will you forgive me if
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Mr. Fernandez: No problem, I wouldn't hold the Senator up.
The last thing I would like to say ...
Mayor Ferre: Senator, we're going to put you on the
loudspeaker right now. Go right ahead, Senator.
Senator Claude Pepper: Mayor, may I say to you and the
commission that I appreciate the privilege of speaking to
you, that I can inform you that the Subcommittee on Energy
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and Water Resources and Development, the same Subcommittee
that got us the money to build a Bayfront Walk and the
foundations for the fountain, they have assured me that they
have put little over $9,000,000 in the bill which will come
up before the full Committee on the 15th of May for final
approval which will allow the building of the promenade from
Biscayne Boulevard to the fountain as is in the plan,
provided for in the plan. So I am very happy that we are
almost certain that we can count upon that $99000,000 so
that not only the Bayfront Walk will be prepared and built
by the engineers but also the promenade from Biscayne
Boulevard to the fountain. That will complete that part of
the picture. So I think you can count upon that, that is
the same Subcommittee that got us (applause) ... I think
you can look forward to that and I'm very happy to tell ycu
all about it because you all have done such a fine job in
getting under way this great park for the people and you'll
be able to enjoy it before long.
Mayor Ferre: Senator, I think the loudspeaker was working
partially and I think your message came across. As I
understand it, what you're saying is that rather than
$5,60090000 I think that we're now going to get up to
$990009000...
Senator Pepper: The estimate of cost may have increased
since we hd the figure that you put in your brochure but we
have gone over it with them according to the plans any
everything and they put in the amount that they think will
assure the adequate building of the promenade, the way it is
listed in the plan is the promenade and it connects Biscayne
Boulevard and the fountain.
Mayor Ferre: Well, I think we get your point.
Senator Pepper: And there will be enough money to build it
and the full Committee will take up the recommendation of
the Subcommittee on the 15th of May, but since it is a very
influential Subcommittee and the one that got us the money
before, I have no danger or doubt about the full Committee
approving the matter and then if the full Committee approves
it I don't have any doubt that it will go through the House
and through the Congress all right. And so the engineers
will undertake that additional obligation.
Mayor Ferre: Well, thank you very much, senator.
Senator Pepper: I'm looking forward to that happy day when
we'll be celebrating the completion of this great project.
I think it is going to give a lot, a big shot in the arm to
Miami to have this place where the people can gather, where
tourists can gather, where the citizens can come to recreate
and have their pleasurable activities, the evenings and all
and I'm eternally to the City Commission for all that you've
done on this matter and especially for allowing my dear
Mildred's, as well as mine, to be associated with the
project.
Mayor Ferre: Well, thank you very much, Senator, and good
night.
Senator Pepper: Thank you very much and please give my
regards to all the members of the Commission.
Mayor Ferre: Thank you, sir.
Mr. Art Fernandez: Mr. Mayor and Commission, the only thing
I have to say is that look into, see what the value, as far
as moving the Library, I know there is plenty of property
where you can salvage the structure or whateve►-, the
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valuable marble, whatever, on a piece of property where why
hold up and delay the construction. that is the only thing
I have to say.
Mr. Carollo: Mr. May.ir, maybe if you clarify something for
the public, it was kind of hard to hear the figures that the
Senator was giving. How many additional millions of dollars
is he saying that he feels he might be able to possibly
acquire?
Mayor Ferre: Well, as I understood it, it was ... John,
what is the figure that is earmarked now, $5,600,000?
Mr. Gilchrist: The original allocation was $5,200,000.
However, the Corps have guaranteed us that they would do the
entire contract for $6,200,000 out of whatever funds they
had available. So I believe that the promenade estimate was
an additional $950,000.
Mayor Ferre: Well, he just said $9,000,000, up to
$990000000. So in other words it could be an additicn up to
$2,800,000.
Mr. Carollo: There's a possibility of that.
Mayor Ferre: Well, what he said was that the Subcommittee
recommended it, that it is a very powerful Subcommittee -
and he is a master at understating those things. That means
that that Subcommittee has a lot of muscle. And I'll tell
you what, Commissioner Carollo, I don't know how you're
going to vote, and others, but I want to tell you if this
Library is torn down and we got that additional $29800,000 1
think a great deal of credit goes to you.
Mr. Carollo: Let me say this to you, Mr. Mayor, sometimes
it takes someone that is willing to bite the bullet tc
defend every Miamian, particularly the smaller inccm e
Miamian to accomplish these things. In fact, I'll tell you
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why I asked that question, because what I would really like
to accomplish is not only to have those in the private
sector that promised to raise $10,000,000 over four years
ago come up with that money, but if we can acquire an
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Building right off, in other words that is what the Library
Building is worth to the people of Miami. So if we can
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acquire at least $79000 000 to build another structure
somewhere else I would be very happy then to see it torn
dawn because then I think the people of Miami would have
received a fair shake in this.
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Ms. Tina Hill: Mr. Mayor, Commissioners, Mr. Manager, I am
Chairman of the Citizens Committee. First of all I live in
Miami, almost downtown so I am very close to the project at
time. I am chairman of the Citizens Committee on Bayfront
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Park. The Committee has worked diligently since 1979 to
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you have just stated that someone had made that kind of a
commitment. I don't know who made it, I wish that the
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Ms. Hill: Our commitment with all of you and with the City
has been that as soon as the project would get going and
that the the break of the ground, the ground breaking for
the park would take place we, the Committee, would endeavour
to go to the private sector to help raise funds for the
different elements in the park. We are still ready to make
that commitment to all of you, but there was never a
commitment by me as Chairman, by my previous Chairman or
anyone in the Committee of $1000009000 that you gentle an
have raised.
Mr. Carollo: Well, if I may ask you one question, and this
will not be taken from your time, it will be taken from cur
time here, I'm not going to argue the point now on whether
those commitments were made or not, it is my recollection
that commitments in that area were, but that is irrelevant
right now. I think what is relevant is how do you expect,
let's say that the Library Building is taken out of the way,
then how are we to raise the additional 7 or 8 million
dollars that would be needed, approximately, to finish the
project?
Mayor Ferre: What is missing to finish the project is
$5,000,000. What is missing is $5,000,000, not $10,000',00:.
In other words, what I'm saying, and now it is changed again
with the Senator's statement. If you take into account the
UDAG Grant and you take into account the Corps of Engineers
Grant, both of which are intimately tied to the Noguchi
design, obviously if that design didn't exist there wouldn't
have been that effort and that commitment made on the part
of Claude Pepper. I mean let's not kid ourselves, Claude
Pepper has really been working hard and over time to get
those funds and he didn't do it - I'm sure he did it for the
City but the fact that obviously it's in memory of his wife
and he are a part of it is a valid incentive and he has
worked diligently to get these funds and they must be taken
into account. The fact is that we now have well over
$159000,000 between the sums that we got in the State of
Florida which are committed and firm in hand and what we
have from Washington. The total project c.st is
$21,000,000. I would like to put into the record once again
that including the Rouse Company $1,000,000, Tacoma Venture
$150,000, $20,000 from the Knight Foundation, $11,700 for
the Park Brochure Contribution, $10,000 from the Cowles'
Foundation, $5,000 from Burdines, we now have a total of
$11196,700 in addition to which, this coming June the Knight
Foundation will be considering a request of $650,000 that
has been made and that is now under serious consideration.
If you add that you're just under $2,000,000. If Mr. Gould
were ever to fulfill his commitment, then you would add an
additional million dollars. So that is the most that I have
ever heard that the private sector is raising and I think
there is no question that J. L., you're totally correct,
that we haven't done anywhere near as well as we should
have.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, if I may, just
Hill, I was here in 1979 when you
colleagues came before this Commission
the $10,000,000 figure, I think you're
But let me tell you what a
and that is what I'm going
absolutely no commitment o
this park. That I recall a
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just come to a point. In 1979 to 1985 is 6 years. Can I
speak to the young lady, please, from the DDA - Kitty.
Kitty, you are in charge of this, I assume, from the DDA
because you are always the spokesman. I will ask you again
i as I have asked you almost on an annual basis. As of today,
May 99 1985, six years = how much hard cash is in the bank?
Ms. Kitty Roedel: $1,196,000.
Mr. Plummer: And where did that $1,196,000 come from?
Ms. Roedel: Various sources.
Mr. Plummer: No, name them, please. Just give me one.
Ms. Roedel: Burdines, Rouse Company, the Cowles Foundation.
Mr. Plummer: No, I said in the bank.
Mr. Carollo: Not commitments, money deposited in a bank
account.
Ms. Roedel: Burdines, the Cowles Foundation ....
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Gould made a commitment of near:y a
million dollars that was considered in the bank - it is n;t
there. My question again - How much actual hard cash is in
the bank after 6 years of effort?
Ms. Roedel: The brochure that was funded for the park ...
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Mr. Plummer: According to that, here is $11000.
Ms. Roedel: that is money in the bank and spent.
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Mr. Plummer: Granted.
+ Ms. Roedel: The $10,000 from the Cowles Foundation is money
in the bank.
Mr. Plummer: Granted, that's $21,700.
Ms. Roedel: $5,000 from Burdines' Contribution, that is
money in the bank.
Mr. Plummer: That's $26,700.
Ms. Roedel: And the Rouse is ...
Mr. Plummer: No, in the bank.
Ms. Roedel: That's the money in the bank.
Mr. Plummer: So what you're saying to me, that after six
years of effort, excluding the federal grants there is
$26,700 has been raised and deposited in the bank towards a
$22,000,000 project. Is that an incorrect statement?
Ms. Roedel: No, sir.
Mr. Plummer: Thank you.
Mr. Carollo: Thank you, J. L., I really don't have anything
to add, you took care of the area I wanted to cover. Miss
Hill, certainly, ma'am.
Ms. Hill: I must say that there have been understandable
delays and why this has been gning on for six years there
have been the delays of the Corps of Engineers in part of
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the project, the DRI, the UDAG Grant. Now, in the meantime,
however, we have helped produce a handsome expensive
brochure to help the City with its Park project and many of
us have made personal contributions to it. Before we can
attract, and 1 think with due respect, Commissioner Plummer,
I think we had a discussion on this before that before we
can attract important private donations, the Committee must
have the full faith and backing of the City of Miami behind
its philanthropic efforts. If the City Commission finally
approves today to remove the Library Building and start
construction of the Park in accordance with the plans that
have been approved, we will make every effort to raise
private funds. If Bayside brings in $10,000#000 a year, and
there is no doubt in my mind that it will, the spill over
into the Park and downtown will be tremendous. We have to
give to our people a place to gather and enjoy without fear,
a place to be proud of. Removal of the Library,
Commissioner Carollo, is an essential part of the design
because it opens up Flagler and downtown to the Pepper
Fountain and the Bay. I think that this is, our Committee
met last week, we have discussed going into a campaign to
raise funds, I think once the project starts it is so much
easier. We have had all these interruptions, truly, and I
know that you know how this makes it tough to do. Just loot
at the Center for the Fine Arts - it's there. Look at what
the private sector is doing.
Mr. Carollo: Mrs. Hill, can I ask you a brief question? If
you are successful today, and I truly wish you were, and let
me clarify that. I wish you would be successful, however, I
wish that the City of Miami can be given $7,000,000 raised
by the private sector for the Library Building so we could
build another administrative building somewhere else. But
if you were to be successful today or at a later time, would
you help in lobbying my colleagues to at least change the
direction of traffic on Flagler Street so then, at least
when motorists are in their vehicles, they can actually see
the Bay going down, now have the Bay and the Park to their
backs as they're going up Flagler Street. I think that
would make a lot more sense, don't you?
Ms. Hill: Well, I would work with you if that makes more
sense. I think that we should beautify our City. But it is
not only beauty, it is bringing all our people. This has to
become a peoples' park and it will with all the elements.
Mr. Carollo: You do agree then, that it makes more sense tc
have Flagler Street going down, the traffic going down s:
they could see the fountain.
Ms. Hill: I'm not an engineer, but I will work with you.
Mr. Carollo: Good, thank you. I thank you.
Mr. Tom Mascaro: My name is Tom Mascaro, I'm President of
the Miami Art League. We're located at 8212 N.E. 2nd Avenue
in Miami. I feel like a voice in the wilderness because we
are proposing that the Library Building be converted to a
visual arts center and City administration offices. It is a
perfect setting for a visual arts center, easily accessible
by Metrorail and car and without question a visual arts
center would enhance the Rouse project because that's what
it's all about. Artists using the visual arts center could
also be a part of the entire project. We do not advocate
any major changes in the Bayfront plan except to place the
proposed fountain and promenade to the north of the Library
building, as Vice -Mayor Carollo has already suggested.
Everyone that we have talked to agrees that a visual arts
center is needed to become a focal point for the arts groups
of Miami. The Miami Art League, the Water color Society of
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Miami, the Federation cf the Cuban Art Teachers, the Cumba
Art Association, all have expressed a deep interest in the
concept of a coalition of art groups and a visual arts
center. All these groups have through the years contributed
to the cultural growth and fabric of this City. The Miami
Art League with its own 55 year history in Miami requests
that the Mayor, the Vice -Mayer and all the Commissioners to
agree that i the best interest of the entire community the
Library Building be used as a visual arts center as part of
the Bayfront Park Plan. I would also like to add that
Senator Pepper and his wife Mildred were patrons of the
arts, we have clippings showing them supporting the Miami
Art League. We have done many things that we have produced
through the years, many great artists and who knows, perhaps
they'll paint your portrait toc, Mayor.
Mayor Ferre: Thank you very much, Mr. Mascaro, let me say
that J. L. Plummer and I have been around a little bit
longer, J. L. in particular, are well aware of the wonderful
contribution of the Miami Art League over the years. We are
always grateful and you're entitled to your opinion and I
think we all respect you for it. Mr. Ken Kahn whL just
walked in wrote a letter in reference to your letter, and I
would like to read it into the record and he can elaborate
if he wishes. It says: Relating to the five groups
interest in using the old Library Building in Bayfront Park,
I can say pointedly that none of the individual groups ncr
any combination of them have the financial capability cf
raising funds for requisite renovations and operation. In
my opinion the Miami Art League, the Water color Society,
the Cumba Artist Association of Florida, the Ceramic League
of Miami, the Federation of Cuban Teachers of Fine Art, all
perform valuable community cultural services but their
I operations are appropriately placed within various
neighborhood settings, not in Bayfront Park remote from
their constituents and clients. Therefore, on two counts I
believe their interest in using the old Library is ill—
considered and totally inappropriate. This is the Ccuncil
of Arts and Science, Kenneth R. Kahn, Executive Directs,
Metropolitan Dade County.
Mr. Mascaro: Well, I would disagree with that somewhat
because the Miami Art League does have a Building Fund that
has accumulated over the years which could be used to do
some of the work. The needs of our groups isn't that great
that would demand partitions, that sort of thing.
Mayor Ferre: All right, sir, thank you very much. Next
speaker.
Mr. Edward Levinson: My name is Edward Levinson, I live at
13435 S.W. 102 Lane. I'm an architect, I am a professor of
architecture at Miami Dade Community College, I'm an adjunct
professor of architecture at Florida International
University. I first came here with a few thoughts in my
mind to plead for the development of the Park design as
designed by Noguchi and for the demolition or removal,
whichever, of the Library because the Library stands in the
way of the East/West Flagler access, certainly the
North/South access, all circulation, all design as
envisioned by Noguchi over the last four years and by the
Downtown Development authority. But instead of just
pleading for all that I've gotten a little bit annoyed.
Some of the Commissioners seem to have forgotten a few
things. Commissioner Carollo, we are going to have
hopefully a Downtown People mover which will provide access
for the Park, especially when connected to the Metrorail
System. We are not asking to tear down City Hall, which by
the looks of the place could use a tearing down, but only
for the Library which has already been replaced and the new
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Library should be operational within a few months. I don't
know where Commissioner Plummer or any of the other
CoMmitSioners get off thinking that the City_ of Miami has to
be handed this Park on a platter free of charge to the
people of the City of Miami because it is going to become
your gateway to the world. Now, I live in Dade County, I
don't live in the City. I have been to the Library one
time. It is not safe to go to the Library, the Library is
what we would call, for want of a better term, a piece of
bastard architecture that has marble on one side and a pure
derelicts haven on the other three sides, visually and
physically. You are going to get a world Class gateway tc
the world, as I said, and the City of Miami is going t:
benefit from the Omni through the Rouse down to M:a!n
Center. Why it should be free and clear, I don't know. As
it is, Miami's tax dollars, if any, will be minimal. But I
don't see where anybody thinks it has to be handed to y;i;
free. If you can tell me why, I would really be interested
in knowing.
Mr. Carollo: Let me say this to you, sir. Well, I'll let
the senior member of the Commission speak first and I'll
speak after.
Mr. Plummer: The senior member of the Commission will to
happy to reply to you, sir. Obviously you're a newcomer t,
town and you don't know what is going on because had y:;;
been here you would have heard the same thing that I hear:.
We didn't ask for it to be hand delivered free, it was
proffered to us at the time this Commission did not have
$209000,000 or $229000,000 to put into a park and we said we
cannot afford it. Pure and simple, we were told don't worry
about the dollars. The dollars will not cost the ad va::rem
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taxpayers of this City a dime. Sir, we didn't ask for it t:
be hand delivered, it was proffered.
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you go ahead and finish your statement and then let someb dy
else.
Mr. Levinson: Commissioner Plummer, I have been here 16
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years. In 1981 I wrote an article which was published ty
Progressive Architecture. They sought to use a full page in
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their internationally published magazine just on the glimmer
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and idea of that Park. If you can imagine the publicity
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that the City will achieve over the years as the Park
develops. And at that time I wrote, "Based on Commission
hearings that the park would cost in the neighborhood of
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$10, 000, 000, the City of Miami hoped to pay only $2, 000, OCC
and was looking for County and Federal and State money, much
of which has already been acquired and was going to keep the
City of Miami's money down to a minimum".
Mayor Ferre: All right, thank Y g , you, sir. All right,
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Commissioner Carollo.
Mr. Carollo: Mr. Mayor, I'm glad that my colleague
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clarified one portion of the statement that the gentleman
made. Sir, you don't live in the City Limits of N,iarri .
Therefore, you don't realize the needs of the average
Miamian, the average Miamian that lives in Liberty City and
Overtown Little Havana and other
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know you laugh because you would never live in any of those
' y y odon't areas that's why you live in south Dade because you
want to necessarily have ...
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Mr. Levinson: I was in Liberty City within days of the ►-i.-t
reperting on it to my students. Dcn't tell me I'm ignorant.
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of anything that goes cn here, I know as much about the
City...
Mr. Carollo: Well, that's great to report on it, but it is
ancther thing to live in the City of Miami and that's why,
I'm sure, you live in South Dade because you don't want to
live with some of us that live in the City of Miami. But
I'll tell you what I strongly resent, and you are entitled
to your opinions and I respect the opinions and the
difference that we might have on the Library Building. What
I strongly resent is the statement that you have made that
it is bastard architecture. The statement that Mr. Roy
Kenzie that it is a fascist architect, I think that's an
insult to the members of the Commission that were sitting
here thirty plus years ago when they approved the
construction of that building. I think those ladies and
gentlemen that were sitting here had the best interest cf
Miami at heart, maybe you disagree with them, maybe others
did.
Mr. Levinson: Interest and taste are two different things,
but Okay.
Mr. Carollo: But I don't think that that is what they had
in mind for tnis community. Now, the other area that I'd
like to mention to you, as an architect, which ycu stated
that you are, I think you weld have to agree that when
people come and plan, this is why we have an ordinance that
you can't cut down Oak trees just like that in the City of
Miami and this is why we have an ordinance on histcric
buildings. When you go into a development and when you make
a design you try to work around as much as you can what is
there. You don't blow up a mountain or dry up a river just
to accomplish what you want. Sure, the easiest thing tc
have done with that Park is just tear the Library down and
get the $7,000,000 that that building is worth and throw it
into the Bay. That is the easiest thing to do, nct
necessarily the best thing to do with it. Thank you, sir.
Mayor Ferre: Thank you, sir. Next speaker.
Mr. Martin Margoles: My name is Martin Margoles, a resident
of Miami. I'm trying to crystalize a lot of these
statements and I think we have to keep in mind that the
monetary issue is one issue separate and apart from the real
issue. And the real issue is are you going to tamper and
morally and perhaps legally breach an agreement that was
made by a designer artist which you paid him to go ahead?
You cannot do this, it is not that simple. You cannot take
one part of his plan and say we're going to accept this and
then take another part of his plan and say we're going to
leave the Library. The monetary issue, if you don't have
the money, then don't begin the Park. Period. But do not,
An nnt_ Apfilp the artistes plan. If you do that. you have
morally breached an agreement.
creative spirit of a human bein
important and incomprehensible tc
several art groups have expressed
this building for free rent -
supporting a fellow artist's plan.
Noguchi painted over their paintii
ceramic jars that they make? As fu
how funny this whole issue is.
issues. One is a monetary issue -
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I'm not going to build the Park I
than if you were to try and Chang
have to keep it in that light.
statement, remove the Library Buil(
the integrity of the olan. If You
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me, is the fact that
a willingness to go into
shortsightedness in not
How would it be if Mr.
gs and painted over the
lny as it sounds, that is
There are two separate
jou have to address that.
th him that if you said
ie would be more content
his plan. I think you
So, please make your
ing, keep the plan, keep
have faith in this great
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City, you will cone up with the money to build the park.
Thank you very much.
Mayor Ferre: All right, next speaker. Mr. Dodd
Mr. Stanley Dodd: My name is Stanley Dodd. My family moved
to Miami in 1925- We have been continuously in business
either on Brickell Avenue or downtown. We're very
interested in the progress of the City and I think this can
all be summarized in one statement. We really should have a
quest for excellence in Miami. We've had it for a long time.
We have such names as I. M. Pei and you have such names as
Noguchi, we ought not to tamper with their plans. Let's
move ahead and do it correctly.
Mayor Ferre: All right, yes, ma'am.
Ms. Marion Richie: My name is Marion Richie and I'm a
resident in Miami and a taxpayer for the last 15 years. And
to add to all the other good reasons why the Library —
Building should be torn down, I'm sure that the massive
funds it would take - by the way, I'm a property manager by
profession, I have been for 30 years - and the funds it
would take to give this place a face lift, whether it were
just cleaning, renovating and the maintenance, those funds
could be spent far far better than maintaining an old
somewhat unattractive building that does all the things that
all the people before me have said: It blocks the view, it
is not in any shape or form any historical value, it may
have had in the past some very good uses as a Library and
I'm sure it does, but I think it has had its day and
financially it is just not worth it now.
Mr. Carollo: Mr. Mayor, can I ask of the chair to request
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of the speakers to give their home address so that we could
identify which of those live inside the City of Miami and
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which of those do not.
Mayor Ferre: Ma'am, did you give your address when you
stood up? Would you do that for the record.
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Ms. Richie: I live at 3412 Franklin Avenue, Miami.
Mayor Ferre: All right, thank you, ma'm. Next speaker.
Ms. Edwina Varner: My name is Edwina Varner, I live at 13;1
N.W. 3rd Street. I go back in Miami to when we used to live
at 2210 Biscayne Drive. That is before the streets were
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renumbered. Yes, I'm older than the majority of them
speaking. We hated to see the Library go in down there
where it went. However, it is there, the building is there.
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I think it is a beautiful building. There a lot of things
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it could be used for other than a Library so why can't it be
moved to some place that it would be accessible? There are
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a lot of clubs that are looking for a place to meet. You've
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got the art groups that would like to have a place. Why
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couldn't it be moved to someplace where it would be useful
and then you would open up your park. I can remember when
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that park was just water because that park, you know, was
all filled in. So if it was moved somewhere where it could
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be used then it would be paying off the taxpayers that paid
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for it. Thank you.
Mayor Ferre: Let me explain to you, just for the record, so
that we understand the history of all of this. About ? or 8
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years ago, and I don't know the exact date, there was a
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brouhaha about this whole thing so we had a public hearin g.
At that public hearing there were as many people as there
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are here today and the Commission, and I think Rase Gordan
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was on the Commission, that's how far back it goes, and I
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remember that she wasn't there in 1979• So it has got to be
before 1979• Now, at that public hearing the Commission
voted to tear down the Library. Three or four years went by
and the issue arose again. This time we had a public
hearing down at Bayfront Park at the Auditorium and there
was a big to do about that whole thing and hours of
presentations just like here and it came to a vote and the
vote was to remove it. But when that vote was cast, there
was a caviat to it. The Commission said all right, we will
spend up to $2,0009000 to move the Library, and we appointed
a committee and the Committee was chaired by architect Ron
Frazier and because the idea was it could be used in
Overtown and Frazier said it could be saved and so. The
estimate was that it would cost $2,000,000 to cut it in
pieces, roll it out, remove it, you know, these things can
be done, it is a marvel how they move these days.
Ms. Varner: Yes, like the one that collapsed on the
causeway.
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Mayor Ferre: Well, that was an unsuccessful attempt. but
the idea was to move this steel structure, which is what it
is, it is a steel structure, and then reassemble it. And
the City agreed to spend $2,000,000 to do it. We put a
year, at the end of the year a report from Mr. Frazier and
the Committee was it is impossible, nobody wants it and that
was, as I recall, there was a time limit to it. Now, let me
explain that I would like to keep the building somewhere
too, it is in the wrong location. But we have been through
all this process. Part of the problem, we're nct addressing
it now but I'll be addressing it when it is my turn to speak
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on this issue, and that is that I think Marty Margoles is
right, there is a contractual obligation, I think, after the
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public hearing and after the vote on the public hearing,
both the artist and many people made assumptions that were
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based on his this Commission or previous Commission voted.
to reverse that position I think is something that I'm sure
will be challenged legally ...
Ms. Varner: I don't mean to leave it where it is, it should
never have been put there in the first place. But what is
going to happen to the building, the auditorium up there in
the north part?
Mayor Ferre: It is going to be torn down.
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Ms. Varner: Perhaps the Library could go there, then y;1
wouldn't have to move it through all of Overtown. Just a
suggestion.
Mayor Ferre: I'm for that, maybe the Rouse Company wouldn't
mind doing that.
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Ms. Varner: Well, that might be one use for it. Thank you.
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Mr. Dawkins: Mr. Mayor, I have to correct the records.
Mayor Ferre: Yes
Y , sir, please do, sir.
Mr. Dawkins: This was supposed to have been moved to
Overtown and at that time everybody knew that you couldn't
cut it down and drag it under the expressway. Therefore, it
never was seriously considered to put it in Overtown.
Ms. Varner: That's why I couldn't move my house from
downtown Miami over where I wanted it.
Mayor Ferre: It could have been moved to Pace Park, it
could have been moved to Watson Island, all those things
:= were considered.
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Mr. Dawkins: I'm all for putting it on Watson Island.
Mayor Ferre: All those things were considered and there
were no takers.
Mr. Dawkins: I'll duke a motion now that we move it to
Watson Island.
Mayor Ferre: I'll second your motion. I will absolutely
second it if you're serious. I think that would be a great
move to move it to Watson Island. So go ahead and make your
motion and I'll second it. Yes, sir, Mr. Fine.
Mr. Dawkins: If we get it on Watson Island we'll have some
people down here raising Sam because we put it on Watson
Island so let's just dissolve it and be done with it.
Mayor Ferre: Go ahead, Mr. Fine.
Mr. Dawkins: He's yielding to you, Miss.
Ms. Laura Cerwinski: I live at 10561 S.W. 71st Avenue. I'm
a professional architecture and design writer. I was born
in Miami, I spent all my high school years doing research
and studying at that Library. I'm an ardent
conservationist, I have a great deal of nostalgia for that
building. But frankly, to jeopardize the plan of one of the
world's most esteemed artists to save a mediocre building
really appalls me. I'd like to convey to you the feelings
of the design community of this country at large who are my
colleagues. They are the professionals that I work with.
They applaud with the greatest wonder and admiration that
Miami has undertaken a project like the Bayfront Park
Project. And frankly, they are equally appalled at the very
consideration of jeopardizing that plan for the sake of this
building could even happen. I cannot urge you strongly
enough to demolish that building and to get on with this
park. Thank you.
Mayor Ferre: All right, next speaker.
Mr. Ron Fine: Ron Fine, 50 Biscayne Boulevard. Mr. Mayor
and Commissioners, I'd like to share with you another view
of this issue and that view is the suffering of the people
of Miami for the last four years and the integrity of the
City. We're all involved with and recognize the problems
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that this City has gone through and its affect upon the
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citizens of Miami. This issue is one of those that can help
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us stop this suffering and can improve the integrity of the
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City. This City is composed of too many unemployed people,
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too many underemployed people, too many businesses losing
money and in bankruptcy and too many property owners
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struggling to pay their taxes to support the City. These
are the real issues in addition to some concrete, steel,
glass and roofing and where it should remain or not remain
or what its value is or isn't. Speaking on behalf of one
piece of property, the Columbus Hotel property, whose taxes
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this year increased 25% while the losses in the businesses
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on that block almost doubled from the riot p year, the real
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issue to us is to stop the suffering and to bring back the
integrity of the City. In the last four years, the
employment in that one block alone decreased 50%. That
means over 300 families are not employed, are underemployed
or are dependent upon the government for all or part of
their substance. Now, many of our problems were beyond our
control - the problems of drugs, the problems of
immigration the problems within our community - but these
problems are within our control. We've worked to come back.
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We've worked to develop something that will fill hotels that
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are half empty with half employment. We have worked to
create programs that will bring businesses back out of
bankruptcy, that will let small business people, unskilled
people, all people have an opportunity in this City. We can
no longer afford to have issues like this affect this City.
the value of the concrete is unimportant6 The personalities
involved are secondary. What is important is a commitment
of integrity of this City. There is no guarantee that this
project will be built. The more we fool with it, the mare
we delay it the more we show a lack of integrity. It is
self-destruction. We've got to stop the self-destruction.
We've got to stop the suffering that we have a part of. One
plan, the other plan is secondary. The point is the issue
is there is a plan, there is an opportunity, an opportunity
to create a project that will put people back to work, that
will put merchants back to profit, that will help people pay
taxes that are needed to support all the needs of this City.
So I implore you, I implore you to get off of this issue, to
get on with this project and to decide today in integrity
for the people that are unemployed in this City, for the
people that are losing money in this City, for the people
that are suffering in their City, to make these projects
move forward today not tomorrow, not next month, but today.
And that is what our job is together, to be together, tc
work together, to set aside the personalities and the
issues. We have an opportunity here we cannot afford to
lose it regardless of what our individual opinions are. And
so I would like to leave you with that opportunity cf
sharing together the need to put people back to work, to
keep people in business, to improve the level and quality of
life in this City and to bring back the integrity where the
world, where the banks, where the insurance companies, where
people from outside of this community can depend upon
positions we take and depend upon them and acknowledge us
for the integrity that I know that we all have, for the goal
that we all have to create a better Miami, to put people
back to work, to improve our tax bases and to have pride for
ourselves and for our children and for our children's
children. Thank you, sir.
Mr. Carollo: Mr. Fine, can I ask you to go back to the crike
for a second, just briefly. Commissioner Dawkins, I think
you could clarify this best since you are the one that wrote
the Rouse company a letter asking them to state their
position on whether they would build a project of Rouse in
Bayside or not if the Library Building were to stay. Can
you tell us what the answer was that you received?
Mr. Dawkins: Thanks, Commissioner Carollo. I would like to
also say to my union brothers who have come up here and
paraded up here with the idea that somehow if the Library
was not removed all union members would not work because the
project would be stopped - that is a gross misstatement and
I don't want us to beat the Rouse Company a hole. The Rouse
Company is a scapegoat in this because the statement was
made up here that if the Library was not destroyed we would
lose the Corps of Engineers Grant, we would also lose the
UDAG Grant. I personally went to Washington where the Corps
of Engineers Grant was signed. I also am aware that we will
not lose the UDAG Grant, Mr. Carollo. So, therefore, the
library does not jeopardize or cause us to lose the Rouse
Project. So those individuals who continually come up here
and paint that picture, you're doing us all an injustice.
Now, I'll grant you that the Library may not enhance the
Rouse Project as we, of those of us in the -Commission may
want it, so, therefore, it may have to come down. But let's
not use scare tactics up here in order to get it torn.
Let's use logic, sound reasoning and arrive at a decision
that all of us know that it is a decision that we got from
our hearts and not from some scare tactics.
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Mr. Carollo: Mr. Mayor, if I may...
Mayor Ferre: We have a public hearing, there are people who
wish to express their opinion. We're getting into Commis-
sion cornments and debate.
Mr. Carollo: Well, we're giving people the opportunity to
do that, Mr. Mayor. We're just having a democracy at work as
we're doing.
Mayor Ferre: Right, now let's let the other people who wish
to speak. Go ahead and make your statement.
Mr. Carollo: Mr. Fine, can you explain to me, since the
Commissioner clarified Rouse's position, that they will
build Bayside regardless of whether the Library Building
would stay or not, how we're going to lose all these jobs
and not employ all these people?
Mr. Fine: The integrity of the City and the consistency of
it is important to the investors, to the lenders and to the
management of these companies. Now, I tell you in my own
judgment that if there is no consistency, if there is no
integrity, if people can't rely on positions taken by this
community then we're not going to have the growth, we're not
f going to have the confidence, we're not going to have the
jobs. You must understand that there are people in this
community that are losing money that are holding on, that
can't live from day to day not knowing that there is going
i to be progress on projects they've worked years to make come
to fruition and to support this Commission and to support
3 this City to make these things happen. You and we together
cannot take that risk, it is too great a responsibility to
do that. Once the decisions have been made, the consistency
a is extremely urgent and important to maintain within the
City and that is my personal judgment.
Mr. Carollo: Let me say this to you, Ron, that I agree that
people should have the integrity to keep their word and
I abide by it, that is why when this Commission got involved
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in this we believed those that told us that not a penny
would come from the taxpayers of Miami for this project. We
took those people to their words because the City of Miami
cannot afford that, particularly when every other City park
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that we have with the exception possibly of Kennedy Park, is
in the worst shape that I have seen any other park in this
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County. They are in shambles. You cannot even have en,ugh
staff so that kids can come and play and use pools, even
swings in some of these parks. Let me say this to you ...
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Mr. Fine: I'd like to acknowledge that.
Mayor Ferre: No, Ron, we're not going to get into a debate
here because there are other people who have a right to
express their opinion and if we want to get into a debate we
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can do it after everybody has had a fair ...
Mr. Fine: It's not a debate, Mayor, I want to acknowledge
that position and say that I concur with that position. The
answer to that position is to create these kinds of pro-
jects, convention centers, parks, those things that will
draw people that will create jobs. That's what the answer
is to solve the problems of the neighborhoods.
Mr. Carollo: I agree
wholeheartedly, but what I
don't agree
with, that if the Library stays is this all not
going to be
a reality? And this
is what I don't believe, but
let me say
this for the record.
The main reason that Rouse
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50% of their tenants
would be minority tenants
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because Commissioner Dawkins and thyself, together with the
rest of the Commission led the charge to make that a priori-
ty request from them, that they would have to abide by that
and then Commissioner Dawkins and myself went further,
pushing them because it is very easy to say fine, 50% of the
tenants can be minorities. But if those tenants that are
minority don't have the moneys to establish their business,
then what good is it? So we went further, pushing them so
that those in the private enterprise together with Rouse and
government could find the low loans that minority
individuals would need to go into business. The reason that
Miami's black community has the problems that it has is that
less than 1% of all businesses in the black community are
owned by blacks. That is the difference between Miami and
other major cities. And I say this to a lot of the main,
business people that are here, it is fine to talk about how
liberal you are and it is fine to talk about how much the
blacks of Miami need help. It is another thing to stick
your hand in your pocket and go and help them. See, it is
all right when people can put a business in the black
community or in parts adjacent to it, as long as those
people are of a certain part of the community. It is
another thing when you have a black being the owner of that
business and not working for the business. And this is
where we as a community have failed. Yes, we talk about
creating some jobs but we never talk and we never create the
reality of making blacks owners of their own businesses in
their areas.
Mayor Ferre: All right, we need to move along now so thank
you, Mr. Fine. Are there any other public speakers that
wish to address the Commission? No, he has already talked
and we're not going to go around twice. Mr. Ader, later on
we may call on you again. Is there anybody else that wishes
to speak? Mr. Ader, I'll recognize you later on. All
right, Mr. Weaver, go right ahead.
Mr. Carollo: David, we would not have had a complete public
hearing if you would not have expressed your very much
needed opinion, and I say that sincerely.
Mr. James Dausch: Thank you. My name is James Dausch, I arr.
a vice-president of Rouse Miami, Inc. Our address is 33-
Biscayne Boulevard, across the street from Bayfront Park,
the headquarters of our company and my personal residence,
however, is in Columbia, Maryland. Thank you for giving me
the opportunity to state our views on this controversy.
From our point of view, the controversy has two aspects to
it. First, what is bet for the City of Miami both socially,
j financially and aesthetically and second, what will be the
t effect of the proposal so far as we can understand it on
Bayside? On the first issue, we think the merits lie clear-
ly on the side of removing the Library and doing Bayfront
1 Park as Mr. Noguchi has designed it. As such, it would be
probably one of the best public places in the world. I
cannot think of another place that would be as dramatic as
Bayfront Park would be and before you take a step that would
detract from creating that kind of a step, we think that
both the gains to be had and the costs to be incurred by
doing that ought to be very very carefully considered and at
the moment, to the extent that we understand both sides, our
view is that the Library ought to go and that very very
beautiful park ought to be created as Mr. Noguchi has de-
signed it. In terms of costs involved i leaving the Library
there, some come to mind immediately. Obviously you feel
that you may be able to save some rent and that is a very
very laudible object to incur but you are going to run some
maintenance costs on an older building. You will have some
conversion costs which ought to be very carefully studied
before a decision like this is made and beyond that, if it
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take time and that will inevitably cost you more to do the
rest of the park because time is money in the development
and construction business. I don't know whether the UDAG
Grant cr the Corps of Engineers funding will be gained or
lost if this is done, I don't think anybody really knows and
one of the entities that are most concerned haven't been
heard from yet. I don't think it is clear that they won't
be lost either. I think one of the things that will happen
is that the surrounding values that are inevitably created
by the development of a large spectacular amenity such as
this may be impacted. There is a lot of property running
north along Biscayne Boulevard which is a clear candidate
for economic development for the City of Miami and there is
no question in our minds as developers around the country
that the creation of an amenity like Bayfront Park would add
substantially to that value. I also associate myself with
the representative of the Worth Company in terms of the
issue of reliability in terms of people who are thanking
about coming into Miami to do business. You need to be
careful about creating any impression that the commitments
can't be relied on. We have been saying, going around the
country, that the City of Miami is the best partner we've
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ever dealt with in the public sector and I hope that we'll
be able to continue to say that. That is important for ycu
to consider as a cost of whether or not you do the park as
it was designed or as modified. Ultimately, however, you as
the Commission are elected to make that balancing cf
judgments and you have to figure out the best way that yoj
can in good conscience in the best interest of the City of
Miami and be prepared to be held responsible for that. if
you were my client, I would advise you not to tamper with
the Noguchi Plan. I think that you potentially lose m,re
than you would gain. As far as the impact on Bayside, if we
were talking about this issue two or three years age it
would be clear that whether or not the Library stays or goes
would not, as such, and viewed in the abstract have an
affect on whether Bayside is going to be built or not. The
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fact is that Bayside would be successful whether some
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appropriate office uses were down in that side of the pars
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or not, but that is not all of it and obviously we don't
know what is going to be proposed into that Library or now
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it will be reconverted. The more important issue in terms
of the impact on Bayside is what I mentioned earlier. If
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the Library is not torn down it means the park is going tc
have to be redesigned. Now, when somebody comes to me and
says we're going to redesign the park I immediately think -
well, that means time. Now, does that mean that we're going
to be able to keep the UDAG Grant, the Corps funding, I
don't know, but I really want an answer to that question if
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the proposal is adopted, and we were asked whether or not we
could approve it. And (3), the schedule. We would not want
to open Bayside with heavy construction going on in the Park
that would be a result of having to redesign the Park
because it is very difficult to draw people to an area, even
as attractive as the Miamarina area is, if there is heavy
construction going on next door it is just not very
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attractive and that would be a very real detriment to
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Bayside. Whether or not this proposal would have that
affect, I don't know, but I would be prepared to discuss
that and I really would need to have that question answered
before we would be prepared to take a position yae or nae on
whether or not it would have an adverse affect on Bayside.
I am not prepared to say right now, but I am willing to sit
and listen if the city Commission in its wisdom decides that
that is what it wants to do. I would urge, however, in your
own best interest, not to do it.
Mayor Ferre: All right, next speaker?
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Mr. Carollo: Mr. Manager, for the record, can you state
what your research found in studying the contracts and
requirements of the Army Corps of Engineers for their grant
that we already signed with them and the UDAG Grants?
Mayor Ferre: Commissioner, I
you hold that question until w
people that want to speak.
something and leave, let's let
we've got long to go, I think
more speakers and then that'll
answered. Okay?
would respectfully ask that
e get through with all these
Some of them want to say
them all, and I don't think
maybe we've got one or two
be the first question tc be
Mr. Carollo: Great, Mr. Mayor, I just think that needs to
be clarified.
Mayor Ferre: Are there any other speakers? Raise y::ur
hands. Any other speakers. I see three and then you want a
second round and then, hopefully, we'll close off the public
hearing. Okay, Mr. Weaver.
Mr. David Weaver: Mr. Mayor, Commissioners, my name is
David Weaver. I have an office at 800 Brickell Avenue,
Miami. Mr. Vice -Mayor, thank you very much for your very
much for your very kind comments, I appreciate them. I
guess I have heard, in the last two hours, many very very
eloquent reasons as to why this Library should be torn down
and why the City Commission should go ahead with its
original intent. I don't intend to add t that list, but my
primary concern is one that has not been raised and that is
an issue of pure economics. One of the things that in my
roll as the City's negotiator with the Rouse Company on this
project along with the city Manager and other members of the
City's staff and the City Attorney's staff was that we tried
diligently over a period of a year to negotiate the best
possible financial return for the City. I'd like to remind
you, and I have asked the City Manager to pass out to the
members of the Commission and to other members of the staff
a document which was part of our presentation back in May,
1984 which details what the net impact of the Bayside
Project is to the City of Miami. Now, this is a project
that, as it gets into operation, will be receiving amounts
from a minimum in the first year of $163,000 to when the
project is in operation it will be receiving in the millions
of dollars from this project. Now, what I would like to
raise as an issue, is in listening very carefully to Mr.
Dausch's comments, I'm concerned about the financial impact
on this City of (1) a delay in starting construction and
getting this project done for the many reasons that Mr.
Dausch mentioned and the financial impact of that. If this
project is delayed for a year or six months there are
dollars associated with that and those dollars, I think,
should be compared with any savings which, in fact, can be
generated by keeping the Library. I thin that is not an
emotional analysis, that is just a dollars and cents,
numbers against numbers, apples against apples analysis.
The second issue is one that is a little less easy to
evaluate. Mr. Dausch said that it doesn't really make a
significant difference to the Bayside Project if there is a
Library there or if there is not a Library there so long as
the use is a use which is an acceptable use. I beg to
differ with Mr. Dausch. I think, and this is my personal
opinion, I think that a project with a Library is nowhere
nearly as attractive a project to the citizens of this City,
to the dwellers of downtown and to the visitors from outside
this City as a project which has the Ncguchi Park and
attractiveness I think translates into dollars. I think
that we are running a risk of making this project less
attractive than it can be and
City can afford to take a risk
less than the very best it can
and if it fails, then we have
this decade for the blacks in
minorities in this community,
the impact of that. thank you
I don't think that we as a
to make this project anything
possibly be because if we do,
lost the major opportunity of
our community and for other
and 1 implore you to consider
very much.
Mr. Arnold Peters: My name is Arnold Peters, 1 live at 5895
S.W. 4th Street. I'm a native Miamian, I was born and
raised here 24 years. Certain with all the building, the
new building, the existing buildings that are going up in
downtown and all over Miami, Mr. Carollo, certainly there is
enough office space for an administrative group to move
into - the Government Center downtown, certainly there is
plenty of room for that. We hear a lot about Miami becoming
a world class city and it seems as though you're doing
things that contradict that. Mr. Noguchi's project is a
work of art. As a work of art, it does not include the
library. By expecting this artist to change his design, you
wouldn't expect Picasso or any of the great artists to
change a painting. Why would you expect this man, this
artist to change his work of art? The Park is a work of
art, a work of art for the citizens of Miami, a work of art
for the world. When are you, as Commissioners, going to
start listening to the will of the people and doing what is
right by the City and for the people and not to serve your
own special interests? This being the first time that I've
even spoken in front of you all, I'm a little bit nervous.
I don't understand, we don't need an office in a park.
There is no need for that. I have seen the plans for the
Park and it is beautiful. Leaving the Library there is
certainly a bastardization of a work of art of a great
artist. Tear it down, do what is right for the people and
the City. I'm sure that those lower income families would
much rather go out and be able to spend some time in a
beautiful park that has an amphitheater, that is going to
provide them some form of entertainment than to worry about
the logistics of a little bit of money being spent or saved
by keeping a building there that is really not going to save
a lot of money. I believe I have heard that it is going to
cost just as much money to leave it there and renovate it
and the moving costs into the building are going to be quite
substantial. You know, do what is right, do something for
the city to make it a world class City - tear it d,,w*,
please.
Mr. Joe Flemming: My name is Joe Flemming. My office is
620 Ingram Building, Miami. I think that usually libraries
are associated with opening vistas and opportunities - this
one destroys them. I think it should be removed. It is
fitting that you see it in your rear view mirror as you head
away from it and I certainly would like to work with you to
make Flagler Street a two way street, one that you can drive
down and see the vistas. I became involved in working on
the committee to raise money and assist because I was at one
of th public hearings when you voted to tear it down and it
has bothered me that at the last hearing when this was set
for public hearing it was said that no one had given any
money from the private sector. I think that considerable
amounts of money have been raised, especially when you view
the way in which this project has been under attack. The
speaker earlier who said there weren't any fine arts areas
in the downtown area I think mixed up on a point because the
Center for the Fine Arts is certainly within the City of
Miami. I had the opportunity to serve on the board of
trustees and raise money and there was no real substantial
amount of money raised for the Center for the Fine Arts
until the Center was built. The fact that you have
belittled first by saying there was no money raised and then
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by saying there is only $26,700 raised is really unfair I
think because first of all we've been raising this money
under conditions when it was questionable as to whether
there would be a park. We took the words of the City
representatives and the contract that we saw that suggested
you were committed to the Noguchi plan and we have designed
this in a way that I think misses the point when you just
look at the $26,000. First of all, a lot of our people have
been attorneys and designers and they have worked on a lot
of the grants that you have. We had people that went from
the Committee to meet with the Corps of Engineers that
worked on the State projects. I myself worked on some of
the grant programs and I think that the efforts of the
private sector and the public sector can be taken into
consideration. So it is closer to the $2,000,000 that we
say we've raised and we probably should be given the credit
for some of the public sector moneys because the government
agencies that have looked at this have looked at volunteers
have obtained and I really think it is unfair for this to be
criticized in this fashion, but even if you feel that way,
that you feel you've been let down, we were never given any
indication that there were any such commitments and from
looking through the past records, I know, Commissioner
Plummer, you've said that there were commitments but you
were the only one that said them and there weren't people on
the other side committing to them and if you proceed now
with this, we are committed to trying to raise money. We
have shown by our actions that we'll follow through. The
last point I want to make was that the hearing I was at that
you voted to tear down the Library was a hearing that also
involved the Cristo Project and I represented Cristo and it
seems to me that you have your artists mixed up. Cristo
really enjoyed these kinds of public displays where people
think through the project. Noguchi had a contract and I've
analyzed the contract, he really does have a binding
contract. The work of art is his, it can't be modified, you
could easier move Flagler Street to line it up with the
Pepper Fountain than you can to change around that design.
And the reality here is if you have to start your Jesigns
all over again you may lose your funding. Even if you're
upset that what in your mind wasn't the funding that you
obtained, the public sector and the private sector can work
together. I think that the reality is, since you're from
Chicago, it was Mayor Dailey who said, "I look forward to
the future with nostalgia", I think we should look forward
to the future here with a nostalgia of what it once was like
when you could look at that park and see the Bay and I think
we should work together and I would genuinely like to work
with you and make this a two way street as you have
suggested. Thank you.
Mayor Ferre: Are there any other speakers that have not
spoken that wish to express an opinion tonight. M►'.
Wellington Rolle.
Mr. Wellington Rolle: Mr. Mayor and members of the
Commission, my name is Wellington Rolle. I live in the city
of Miami and I want to reiterate my original position that I
am in opposition to tearing down the Library in Bayfront
Park. I take great exception to those individuals who have
expressed their opinion, and they have a right to express
their- opinion about how they feel that the park should look,
that the Library Building is blocking the view from Flagler
Street, that is a judgment call. I've lived in this City
for a lifetime and I'm a little bit amazed that there are
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people who can come before these microphones and talk about
a gentleman named Noguchi, talk about Senator Pepper and
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Mrs. Pepper and put all of those things ahead of what is the
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in the best interest of the citizens of the City of Miami.
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I have not the least bit of concern for Mr. Noguchi and his
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ability as an artist. I must respect the than as an
individual as any other person, but to come before these
microphones and to continue to say that there is something
special about Mr. Noguchi and his ability to effect this
type of facility for Bayfront Park 1 think is gilding the
lily. Part of the problem that 1 think that we have here in
the City of Miami is that we are not concerned about thos
good things that should benefit all of the people in the
City of Miami and not in some way benefit Ted Gould's
Project sitting on the south side of Chopin Plaza, we had a
band shell in the park, that was supposed to have been
replaced when they finished using that area for staging for
the construction and what have you, but I find it a it much
not to be able to realize that the amount of money that
could be saved by the effective utilization of that
particular structure, it is about 30 years old, it is paid
for, it sits on just a bit over half an acre and I think
that when we think in terms of all of the City offices that
are spread around the City I'm not going to accept the
figures and the numbers that John Gilchrist offered in his
office about what it would cost to buy up the contracts and
what have you, I think that all of us understand that there
are cancellation clauses in a lot of the contracts and there
are options that how these contracts can be canceled by
either party and I think that it stretches the imagination
that information was not included in the Information that
was made public the last time as to how the City of Miarr.i
might be able to end that kind of contractual relationship.
Now, one of the other things that I'm concerned about is the
cost involved in all of the other occasions that we've
talked about the acquisition of green space that was
supposed to have run from Chapin Plaza all the way to the
north side of Bicentennial Park, that was also supposed to
be a part of the park but today the thought has changed and
apparently the house is divided on what we should do with
the park. I think the citizens of the City of Miami, and I
think if we took a poll around this room I don't think that
anybody, a lot of people in this room have not been in the
park three times in the last three years and I would
challenge the people in this room who have been in the park
three times in the last three years just for the benefit of
going through the park, I don't think you'll find a
representative number of people who have done that. And in
closing, Mr. Mayor, I have spent about three years in
London, a couple six or seven months in Belgium and you
know, the parks are passive, we go in, we see a lot of
planting, we see a lot of sculptured gardens in the parks
and it just seems to me like that would be the way to go
here than to insist on building a structure in the park and
to continue talking about the loss of
funds or people who want to make contributions and raise
funds quite unnecessarily. We have a public park, we have
open space here, it is Bayfront Park, it is a little smaller
than Homestead Bayfront Park which is about4 miles in
length, but I certainly would like to see the Library stay
in the Park and not be able to move offices around like Mr.
Pedrosa did when he moved his down at DuPont Plaza and spent
an awful lot of money in increasing the law office ...
Well, thank you, Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Ferre: Thank you, sir. Are you a new speaker? You
have not spoken before? All right, sir.
Mr. John Moynahan: Mr. Mayor, my name is John Moynahan. I
have been a resident of Miami since 1946 and I remember when
this Library was built and it was an eyesore then and I
never forgave the architect that designed it and he was a
friend of mine. That building has ruined the view from
Flagler Street ever since it was built and I have always
been downtown Miami and I love Miami and I think it has g:t
to come down. Now is the chance to get it down.
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Mayor Perre: Thank you, Mr. Moynahan. Are there any other
members of the public that wish to make a statement that
have not? We're going to cut off debate in a moment, I mean
the public portion of it. All right, Mr. Ader, your second
time around.
Mr. William Ader: Gentlemen, the only reason I wanted a
second time around was that something came up after I spoke
that I was not aware of and I'm sorry for my ignorance but I
did not know that you were trying to raise money from the
private sector.
Mayor Ferre: Well, you don't read the Miami Herald, is that
it?
Mr. Ader: What I would like to say now is that I would be
very happy to write out a check for $250, I would be very
happy to be a member of the Committee to raise money towards
the Park and I would say that given 30 to 60 days, I think I
can raise at least $5,000. You just tell me who to write
out the check to and I will be happy to write it out
immediately.
j Mayor Ferre: Let me tell you, I know that $250 means a lot
and I know a lot of people can sneer at that and say that's
not very much but I think under the circumstances, and 1
- know that you've had difficult times and I commend you for
that generosity and for the offer to raise $5,000 and we
accept.
Mr. Ader: Just tell me who to make
the check out to and let
me know when you form a Committee
because I'll be glad to
volunteer.
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Mayor Ferre: Kitty.
Mr. Carollo: Maybe we could pass
the collection plate and
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start up tonight.
Mayor Ferre: Thank you, Mr. Ader.
All right, anybody else?
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Mr. Carollo: Anybody else who would
like to contribute any
moneys? Going once, going twice.
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Mayor Ferre: I assume everybody has had their say and if
nobody else wishes to add anything
else I think it is time
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to cut off the public hearing.
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Mr. Plummer: I so move.
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Mr. Carollo: Second.
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The preceding motion introduced
by Commissioner Plummer
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and seconded by Commissioner Carollo
was passed and adopted
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AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
{' Mayor Ferre: Now I will not make any speeches if the rest -
of the Commission doesn't make any speeches and we'll just
vote.
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Mr. Carollo: I believe the Mayor, since he spent the whole
morning and afternoon making speeches I guess he is kind of
tired already today.
Mayor Ferre: Well, I've got a long speech 1 want to make
but I'll refrain from making it if you all are ready to vote
because I don't think that anything I can say or you can say
is going to change anybody's opinion one way or the other.
So, I'll express my opinion when I vote.
Mr. Carollo: I'd be in favor of that, Mr. Mayor, I'd just
like the Manager to clarify as he said he could his research
on the contracts we have and the grants we have.
Mr. Pereira: As I stated to you in a memorandum at the last
Commission Meeting in public hearing, we said that we ha-4
researched the issue with the Corps of Engineers and that in
fact, the Corps of Engineers had made it clear to us that
their grant was not in jeopardy. Commissioner Dawkins and
I, in fact, have flown to Washington since and signed the
agreement. On the UDAG issue, the position ...
Mr. Dawkins: The Mayor has just reneged on his promise.
Mayor Ferre: No, sir, I'm not going to renege, absolutely
not. I will not make any speeches. I will, however,
clarify the record.
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Mr. Pereira: On the UDAG Grant, as I stated to you at that
time, it is our understanding that if ground is not broken
by May 31st and because of the posture of the Office of
Management and Budget to de -obligate funds we do, in fact,
run a risk of losing the UDAG Grant.
Mr. Carollo: If we don't finish by what date?
Mr. Gilchrist: It's October of 1986.
Mr. Carollo: Now is there anything that can prevent you
from starting construction by the end of this month, whether
the Library Building stays or not outside maybe of an
earthquake or a major hurricane or a World War?
Mr. Gilchrist. The only thing that could possibly stop us
would be any action on the part of the architects or the
designer of the Park that would impede us, otherwise we are
out to bid at this time for a landscape contract,
Commissioner.
Mr. Carollo: Fine. Mr. Mayor, if I can read to the record
a resolution. It is Resolution No. R-481-85 where it
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states - it is a resolution of the Dade County Commission.
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Whereas it is always necessary to conserve public funds and
assets and this need is ever more present because of Federal
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and local budget cuts, and whereas the Miami Dade Public
Library located in Bayfront Park in Miami is a valuable
public asset which can provide important services to the
downtown business community and thereby attract an important
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segment of the public to Bayfront park, now, therefore, be
it resolved by the Board of County Commissioners of Dade
County, Florida, that this Board urges the City Commission
of the City of Miami not to destroy the Miami Dade Public
Library and further urges the City Commission to attempt to
find an alternate use for this valuable public asset. The
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foregoing resolution was offered by Commissioner Barry
Schreiber who moved its adoption. The motion was seconded
by Mayor Stephen Clark and upon being put to vote the vote
was unanimous.
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Mayor Ferre: I was, and I said I would not make any
speeches and it is not my intention to do so, however, I
think since the record by the question of my colleague and
the answer of the Manager, I think it now requires a legal
and I'm sorry to do this but I have to put it on the record.
Mr. Kenzie, would you come up to the microphone? Madam city
Attorney, the City of Miami has a contractual obligation and
an agreement signed with the designer of the Park, Isamu
Noguchi. That contract was negotiated by Mr. Joseph Grassie
and by Mr. Roy Kenzie. I will be asking Mr. Kenzie in a
moment to put into the record his understanding, I
understand that Mr. Grassie and George Knox will do the same
if required, as to propriety and the ownership of the
design. My question, and I will begin by asking you so that
Mr. Dausche will no longer have any hesitations on where we
stand, is that I would like to ask the City Attorney that if
testimony is placed on the record and can be proven that it
was the clear intention in the contract with the designer
that the Park was to be built as designed, since we have
already expended $6009000 and are committed for another
$300,000, certainly nobody can question that that has been
legally placed, and since there was a public hearing and at
such public hearing a vote was passed 3 to 2 and at that
time the vote was Commissioner Perez, Carollo and myself
voting for the demolition of the Library, given all th' se
facts, if Mr. Kenzie were to testify that it was the clear
understanding with Mr. Noguchi in that contract that the
park was tc be designed as submitted, I ask you the
following legal question: If Mr. Noguchi were to institute
legal proceedings to stop the City from utilizing any
portion of his design should the library remain, in your
opinion, would that contract, would we win or lose that case
in court?
Mrs. Dougherty: Mr. Mayor, the contract is sufficiently
ambiguous about what rights the City has to design on that
design or to ...
Mr. Dawkins: Say that again, I didn't hear.
Mrs. Dougherty: The contract is sufficiently ambiguous as
to whether or not once the City has paid $290,000 for the
plans whether or not we could construct it and leave the
Library. So the answer to your question, Mr. Mayor, is if
Mr. Kenzie as the negotiator for the City were to testify
that it was absolutely their intent under the language,
which was ambiguous to me, then the City would stand a good
chance of losing that lawsuit.
Mayor Ferre: Now, Mr. Kenzie, my question now, and I will
not interrupt you and you let me finish my line ...
Mr. Dawkins: By that time the City Attorney will have lost
her chain of thought.
Mayor Ferre: Fine, well then you write down your thoughts
and you write down yours. Now, Mr. Kenzie, the next
question I have for you, sir, since you were involved in
those negotiations, is what was your understanding - on the
record now - when you concluded those negotiations, you and
Mr. Grassie?
Mr. Roy
Kenzie: I think there were
several concerns
expressed
by Mr. Noguchi when we were discussing
Mr. Grassie
negotiated for the City on this and I
took part in in
assisting
in the negotiations that, and it
states so in the
contract
that all designs, models and
other data as
developed
by the artist as instruments of
service for the
purpose of
the agreement shall remain the
property of the
artist.
And it was his intent, that's the first statement
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in the Ownership of Design within the contract between Mr.
Noguchi and the City. Mr. Noguchi was concerned that he
would do all this work and that someone would come along and
take pieces of it and do it and that his name would be
associated with it and it wouldn't be something that he had
completed and it is stated in the contract in the third
paragraph, second page, that provided, however, that when
the drawings will be used for construction purposes the City
will be restricted to use the drawings only for the
implementation of the Noguchi Master Plan for Sayfront Park.
I think that is fairly clear and it was our intention and
his intention that he be protected from a situation that the
city would want to proceed with the design but alter the
design or change it and he wanted to ensure that his design
would built as he planned it and that also to insure that he
was the owner of the plans and designs as they were
developed.
Mayor Ferre: All right, now, Madam City Attorney, you have
heard the statement that Mr. Kenzie has made into the
record, let me add to it by saying that I was a participant
in those discussions at different times as Mayor of the City
of Miami and Mr. Grassie will testify in the same way. it
was the clear understanding of those discussions with Mr.
i Noguchi that the plan would be executed with integrity
exactly the way it was submitted and designed after it had
been approved and finalized. I say to you that that plan
has been approved, it has been under final design and
working drawings, public hearings have been held, there is
no question that we are both morally and legally bound after
those processes and I ask you if after the statement I have
just made and Kenzie has made, and we can get Joe Grassie to
make the statement, what your chances are in court of
defending a lawsuit against a lawyer representing Mr.
Noguchi who would enjoin the City of Miami from proceeding
with anything else?
Mrs. Dougherty: Mr. Mayor, I would have to say they are not
very good.
Mayor Ferre: All right. Now, my final question to you, and
then I'll relinquish the microphone to somebody else who can
pursue it. I would like to say to you, Mr. Gilchrist, if
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you would get on the microphone, Mr. Gilchrist, as the
person most knowledgeable and closest to all of these
details, did Mr. Noguchi, if this Commission decides to
leave the Library in place and Mr. Noguchi were then to say,
"I will not permit any further usage of my drawings since
this is a substantial change" and he puts in a lawsuit and
the City Attorney says that we may but we don't have a very
good chance of winning that lawsuit, if we were to be
enjoined by the judge, I ask you whether or not you feel
that with regards particularly to the UDAG Grant or
generally the $9,000,000 that Claude Pepper has been
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struggling vehemently for so that the City of Miami could
have this beautiful park and this beautiful fountain and
this beautiful walkway to it, if that were to occur, now do
you think there would be jeopardy?
Mr. Gilchrist: I believe the UDAG Grant would certainly be
in jeopardy. If you would bear with me, I would like t.
read one ...
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Mayor Ferre: No, you do that on your own later on. I'm
asking the questions.
Mr. Gilchrist: I have a statement from UDAG.
Mayor Ferre: All right, read it. Keep it to the question
I've asked you.
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Mr. Gilchrist: Okay. "Because the administration has cut
UDAG from the 1986 budget, the Office of Management and
Budget has instituted procedures to close out the UDAG
Program. These procedures significantly restrict the
changes that can be made in the UDAG Grant Agreement between
the recipient city and HUD. As a result of recent
restrictions, the construction start/complete dates and use
of UDAG funds stated in the grant agreement cannot be
changed." We have to be in construction by May 31st and,
therefore, we could not do it.
Mayor Ferre: Now, if there is - again my question to you,
sir, is - if there is an injunction by a judge not to
continue on any portion of the park, do you think the UDAG
Grant is in jeopardy, yes or no?
Mr. Gilchrist: Yes.
Mayor Ferre: Now, Mr. Dausch, do you, sir?
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Mayor Ferre: I'm not asking you a legal opinion. My
question is with all the testimony that has been presented
here, are you telling me that the Rouse Company doesn't have
any feelings and does not care as to whether or not that
UDAG is ... That is my question to you.
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Ms. Hirai: Mr. Mayor, would you like to have that statement
on the public record?
Mayor Ferre: No, basically what he says is that he stands
on what he said before, he doesn't want to get any deeper
into it and I accept that. I was not intending to get all
this legal stuff into the record, but I think it was
absolutely essential to do it because the issue here is not
the Library Building, the issue is the park and I relinquish
to you ...
Mr. Carollo: Commissioner Dawkins, let me begin, if I may.
Mr. Noguchi, from the information that I am reading here, is
to be paid a total of $300,000 for his design. Well, from
what I'm reading here he is being paid $250,000 and he'll be
paid another $50,000. Well, I don't know if he has anything
else coming or not, I don't know if this $645,000 plus and
another $164,000 plus here and an additional amount, if he
is acquiring part of that or not through an individual
contract he might have with them. We don't know that. So
it is very hard to say if that is all he is going to acquire
or not. None of us could and I think you understand what
I'm saying, Mr. Mayor. At the same time, if I recollect,
Madam City Attorney, the first opinion that you gave us some
weeks ago clearly stated to you that you felt that the
language of the contract was such that you felt that that
language stated that the design was ours. I realize you
privately later on told me that it could have been written
in much stronger words but you felt there was enough in the
contract to have the City on the winning side in a lawsuit
that the design was ours. Is that basically correct?
Mrs. Dougherty: I
the Noguchi design
privately told you
design is owned by
you and the Mayor,
because they owned
build what we have
don't believe I ever gave an opinion on
contract before in the public meeting, I
that the contract actually says that the
Noguchi but that to me, and I told both
it doesn't say specifically that just
the design doesn't mean that we can't
to what we want to. For example, what
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would Noguchi do, for example, if we were to build the park
using his design and then at the end of five years we didn't
have the money to take the building down? So what I'm
saying to you is that it is not sufficiently clear and it is
sufficiently ambiguous that if he parole evidence were to
come into a court of law it would be damaging to the City's
position.
Mr. Carollo: Well, the bottom line, and I'm not going to go
back into what was said or not at this meeting is does an
individual that works for the City of Miami have the right,
without making it clear to the Commission, therefore, the
people of Miami, that, and does he have the right to go into
a personal agrievement with anyone, especially someone that
you're paying at least $300,000 for into agreeing that that
design will belong to that individual? I submit to you that
if that is the case, which I personally doubt, that that is
negligence and I would be willing to make the motion to
first of all go hire the best investigators the City could
hire to subpoena and interview under oath by professional
investigators, Mr. Kenzie, Mr. Grassie and whomever else
they can find and start seeing the difference of opinions
that they might give under oath and under question. Now, it
is very easy now for Mr. Kenzie to say, "Oh, this is what I
meant." That is irresponsible. Irresponsible from day one,
if that is the case which I doubt very much so and I for
one, I might stand alone then, if it comes to that print,
I'd be willing to make the motion to defend the right of the
average Miamian and spend the funds that we have to t::
protect our legal rights. This has been very one sided, the
average Miamian that pays just about the highest taxes that
any municipality does in this County, their main concern is
with their neighborhood parks that are in the worst shape of
any parks in this County. their main concern is with the
high fees they are paying for their property taxes of
garbage collection - I could go on and on and on. Frankly,
I expected this place to have at least 300 people with a
campaign that was launched by a small group, I don't believe
a group representative of all Miamians to keep this design.
But what bothers me is the sense of fair play in this. You
know the American way is you have your opinion and I have
mine, we debate in an above -the -board fashion and that is
the way if is usually done. But I see that the sense of
fair play in this whole process has been lost. From the
start it has been one scare tactic after another. It
doesn't matter what tactics you have to use because the end
justifies the means and I think that all of that in itself
has been very negative and damaging to this community as a
whole. It is one thing to win an issue when you debate it
by rules and by fair play. It is another thing where you
hit them below the belt and I submit to you that this is a
hit below the belt.
Mayor Ferre: Well, I promised not to make any speeches so
I'm ready to take any motions that anybody wants to make.
Mr. Carollo: Mr. Mayor, I will make a motion that no final
decision on what to do with the Library Building would be
made until all the moneys that are needed to build this
project are in the bank. And I'm not talking about promises
or IOU's or the raising of another $27,000 in another 4
years, I'm talking until all the moneys that are needed to
build this project are in the bank because from what I'm
seeing right now is that we're going to have to go get
several million dollars from the little neighborhood parks
or the Police Department or the fire Department or the
Sanitation Department to finish this park and then, if by
some strange coincidence you have a mass of average Miamians
come to this park, and I wouldn't be surprised if many of
those that have been champion to have this design would be
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the first that wouldn't want to use the park then because
they won't want to mingle with the majority that lives in
the City of Miami.
Mayor Ferre: All right, we have a motion on the floor.
Mr. Plummer: Let me understand the !notion. Understanding
the motion is that no decision will be made on this
building, the Library Building until such time as the full
completed amount of money take to complete the Park, is that
correct?
Mr. Carollo: That's correct, it's in the bank.
Mr. Plummer: I second the motion. Mr. Mayor, do you went
me to save my words for when I vote?
Mayor Ferre: No, do whatever you want.
Mr. Plummer: If anything, Mr. Mayor, I have been
consistent, as you are well aware, it has been my opposition
for the entire time, and Tina, much to her sorrow knows
that. I think to tear that building down is absolutely just
out of question. I am not totally 100% opposed but Marty
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Margoles made a statement there was a breach - that breach
was with the private sector money which has not been raised
and as far as I'm concerned, if that money is raised I want
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to tell you I1111 feel a lot differently but at this point
I'm not impressed by $27,600.
Mayor Ferre: All right, we have a motion and a second. Are
we ready to vote on it? I would say that this is a sad day
for the City, this will, in my opinion, kill the Park, the
design. It will also greatly jeopardize the Rouse Company's
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Project. It will definitely affect the UDAG Grant and I
don't think there is any question about that and we'll see
it happen very quickly in the next couple of months. I
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think we're talking about a major major negative step in the
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history of the City of Miami.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, on the record, could I ask the
Manager a question? It is not a statement. Mr. Manager,
assuming, just assume hypothetically that the two grants
will be forthcoming, the million dollars will be coming from
the Rouse Company, that is their obligation. Two parts to
this question (1) I would assume that the administration of
this City would continue to make improvements to that Park
and to the tune of at least $15,000,000 which is the moneys
that are there now, I would hope that you would. Okay?
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this Commission, and this for one would be a receptive ear,
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if you find for any reason that any of those grants are in
jeopardy. I think it behooves you or Mr. Gilchrist or
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whoever to come back and inform this Commission immediately
and at such time I would be more than willing to open up a
discussion if any of that is in jeopardy but at this
particular time I have a constant reminder every day the*,.
those moneys are not there as I drive by that building. I
hope it will serve as a reminder to others that they have a
contract with this City and at such time as that contract is
fulfilled I will do mine.
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Mayor Ferre: I, in the interest of trying to save something
out of this pass the gavel to the Vice -Mayor and asked to be
recognized for a substitute motion.
Mr. Carollo: Go ahead, Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Ferre: My substitute motion is that this City proceed
with the demolition of the Library building as cited
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previously at a public hearing and keeping faith with those
who made decisions based on that public statement of this
City in its majority. I move that the City Commission again
go on record reiterating that absolutely no ad valorem tax
moneys will go into the development of this park and that
all funds must be raised from either the federal government,
the State of Florida or private funds and that no ad valorem
taxes at any time will be used in any portion of this park
design which in my opinion, Mr. Plummer, accomplishes the
very same thing you want to accomplish but in a positive
manner.
Mr. Corolla: There is a motion, is there a second,
Demetrio? Do you want to second it?
Mr. Perez: First, I would like to clarify a question of the
City Manager. Mr. Manager, would it be possible to have a
full explanation and all the answers about what Commissioner
Corolla in the motion that he introduced and supported by
Commissioner Plummer, do you think it would be possible to
have an answer for the next Zoning Commission Meeting, in
other words before the 31st of this month?
Mr. Pereira: In answer as to the impact that this will have
on the grants?
Mr. Perez: About all the details that Commissioner Carollo
wants to investigate about what is the main ...
Mr. Pereira: Oh, you're talking about the representation
while the negotiations of the contract, is that what you're
addressing?
Mr. Perez: What is included in the first motion.
Mr. Carollo: Let me say this, Commissioner. There has only
been a motion that has been made, there is not a second so
technically we're out of order by discussing this. Let me
pass the gavel on to Commissioner Plummer and I'll second it
for the sake of discussion so technically we can be discuss-
ing this matter. Plummer, you've got the chair.
Mr. Plummer: I've got the gavel. Commissioner Perez,
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you're recognized.
Mr. Perez: Okay, Mr. Manager, do you think that it would be
possible to have an answer before the 31st?
Mr. Pereira: I think that if all the parties that - it
depends on how thorough, if it were a matter of just getting
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the parties that were mentioned before and interviewing them
and, I don't know, I have to ask the City Attorney, the
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matter of depositions and we have to start any kind of
proceedings, I think you have time, just the matter of the
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availability of the individuals.
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Mr. Carollo: Let me say this for the record, Mr. Manager,
so that the Commission could understand better. Basically,
Commissioner, what has happened is that since we proved
beyond the shadow of a doubt that we could legally keep the
first of the two main requirements of the UDAG grant alive
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by beginning construction May 31st and whether the Library
building stayed or not then is when the hit below the belt
came and Mr. Kenzie states that he will testify in favor of
Mr. Noguchi, whatever Noguchi wants, that Mr. Noguchi is
going to sue us and place an injunction on the City of Miami
to that we cannot proceed which frankly he would do that. I
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think it would be a heck of an irresponsible act an the part
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something of that nature but, nevertheless, 1 know what is
going to happen, we're having a shotgun placed to our heads
and I guess it brings to mind Mao's words that power comes
at the end of a gun barrel, unfortunately in this case, this
being true. But what 1 at, saying, Commissioner, is that if
these are the kind of games that are going to be played then
we have to protect the taxpayers of Miami and 1 will be
willing to make the motion to hire the best investigators we
can to file lawsuits against Mr. Kenzie and whomever else we
have to, take depositions from them and start investigating
and start getting all the conflicting statements between one
and the other and I'll be willing to offer to pay the first
$5,000 for any investigators we have to hire.
Mayor Ferre: Mr Chairman, from a technical point of view,
just so that we keep this thing proper, it is illegal under
both Mason's and Roberts' Rules of Procedure for the maker
of a motion to second a substitute motion. So, if we're
going to be voting on this it has to be, just for the record
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Mr. Carollo: Mr. Mayor, I withdraw it. Technically the-
we've all been out of order in discussing this unless Cor-
missioner Perez wants to second it now.
Mayor Ferre: I just, you know, just to keep it straight.
Mr. Carollo: I'll take the chair back. Does anyone want to
second the Mayor's motion? I've asked once, I've asked
twice.
Mr. Perez: First, Mr. Mayor, let me make clear I am com-
pletely in favor of demolition, I don't have any doubt, I
voted about 18 months ago in that direction and I think
that that is part of the future of the downtown area and I
don't have any doubt, I am completely in favor of that
project. What I would like is to clarify all the details.
As one vote, member, I would like to know what Commissioner
Carollo has pointed out today about the contribution of the
private sector. For me, it would be enough to know for the
next Commission Meeting to the 23rd what kind of commitment,
what kind of formal project would a City Manager's recom-
mendation, what can obtain for that meeting and give me the
opportunity to decide. In other words, Mr. Mayor, if y:u
accept, I would like to ....
Mayor Ferre: I withdraw my motion and in its place make a
motion to table which does not require a second and does not
have any debate. That automatically, let me tell you what
that does legally. A motion to table which does not require
a second, and does not permit debate automatically puts it
off to the next legal Commission Meeting. A motion to table
means that it automatically comes up as a matter of course
on May 23rd.
Mr. Perez: Requesting the City Manager's recommendation
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, you now have the Chair back.
Mr. Dawkins: You said it didn't need a second.
Mr. Plummer: Table your motion or your own motion?
Mayor Ferre: I withdrew my motion and made a motion to
table and the motion to table does not require a second and
there is no debate.
Mr. Plummer:
motion.
You mean you made a motion to table Carollo's
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Mayor Ferre: Of course.
Mr. Plummer: Okay, so then you have the Chair back.
Mayor Ferre: No, because I made the motion to table so
there, obviously, you are now Chairing it since it is his
motion I am tabling.
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: I have a question of the Chair.
Mayor Ferre: The Chair is you, Plummer. He is the maker of
the motion.
Mr. Plummer: Okay, fine, Mr. Mayor, I'm the Chair. Now,
Madam City Attorney, tell me the position we're in. Hell, I
don't pay you those high prices for nothing, you've got to
take some of the heat.
Mayor Ferre: No, you're not the Chairman because you se.--
onded the motion so you can't be chairing it.
Mr. Plummer: Succatash!
Mr. Carollo: It's your big chance, Demetrio, you've gc.t the
Chair.
Mr. Plummer: Where are we?
Mr. Carollo: Madam Attorney, since ...
Mr. Dawkins: Okay, as Commissioner Plummer said, Madam City
Attorney, give us a legal as to where we are and how we all
can go home.
Mrs. Dougherty: The item will come back up on the next
agenda.
Mr. Plummer: That's Carollo's motion.
Mr. Carollo: No.
Mrs. Dougherty: No, it's tabled.
Mr. Carollo: Madam Attorney, have you researched the rules
of order that we work by to make sure that under the rules
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Mrs. Dougherty: Be happy to do that right now.
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Mr. Wellington Rolle: The Mayor is wrong, you can't ...
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Mr. Dawkins: He says you're wrong under Mason's Rules of
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Order we cannot table the motion, that is Mr. Wellington
Rolle.
Mr. Carollo: Well, that's why I'm asking the City Attorney.
I'll abide by her opinion after I read it in the book when
she finds it. I wonder what Reverend Moon has to say about
all of this.
Mayor Ferre: Look, I don't care how it is done, the inten-
tion is very simple - is to put off the vote tonight and put
it off to the 23rd.
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Mr. Plummer: Excuse me, that is the vote on his motion. It
doesn't preclude other motions. Of course, it doesn't
preclude you tabling them too.
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Mr. Dawkins: Now, Commissioner Carollo asked a point of
information and he asked the City Attorney what is the
status, can you correctly table the motion?
Mayor Ferre: A motion to table it puts it off to the next
meeting.
Mr. Carollo: Well, we'll soon find out of Maurice got a hit
or it was a curve.
Mrs. Dougherty: Mr. Mayor, the purpose of the motion to lay
on the table is to enable the body to set aside a pending
question. There has to be a vote on the motion. There is
no debate, there has to be a vote.
Mayor Ferre: I move to table.
Mr. Plummer: Call the roll.
Mayor Ferre: Wait a minute, Mr. Chairman - who is the
Chairman around here?
Mr. Plummer: 1 am.
Mayor Ferre: Now, Mr. Chairman, through you to the Att,r-
ney, as I understand, Madam City Attorney, a motion to
table, the moment it gets voted upon, all it simply means is
that the issue before the body is tabled until the next
meeting automatically.
Mr. Plummer: There is a difference between the issue and
the motion.
Mayor Ferre: I stand corrected. The motion that is before
us automatically gets delayed for one meeting. That is the
motion to table, that is what table means.
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Mr. Plummer: No, she is saying you've got to vote on the
motion to table.
Mayor Ferre: And then what happens, if the motion to table
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passes, then what?
Mrs. Dougherty: Then it is tabled.
Mr. Carollo: Maurice, you can't run this like a campaign.
Come on, now.
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Mayor Ferre: Now, in other words, if the motion to table
passes it is automatically tabled to the next meeting?
Mrs. Dougherty: Yes, sir.
Mr. Plummer: Or a date certain.
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Mrs. Dougherty: Whatever time you want to.
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Mayor Ferre: if it fails, then the main motion is before
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Mrs. Dougherty: That is correct.
Mayor Ferre: And, if it fails, just so I can get my
thoughts straight, if two people make motions to defer then
_ff we can defer to the next meeting?
Mrs. Dougherty: You can do that.
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Mr. Plummer: if that motion to defer passes.
Mr. Carollo: Gentlemen, you know, I wish we would play by
the rules and quit trying to re -invent the book and grasping
for straws.
Mr. Plummer: All right, let me ask one other question, Mr.
Gilchrist. Assuming that the motion passes tonight to
demolish the building, what will you do tomorrow to comply
with the grant to start before the 31st of May?
Mr. Gilchrist: We have advertised and have out bids for the
landscape portion of the Bayfront Park and we intend to ccm e
back on the 23rd with the bid report and be able to hopefjl-
ly select the bidder and move forward.
Mr. Plummer: So, for the record, you can still do that with
the building in place.
Mr. Gilchrist: Yes, sir.
Mr. Plummer: Thank you. All I'm doing is trying to make
sure we don't put the thing in jeopardy.
Mr. Carollo: Can you repeat the motion so it can be
cleared?
Ms. Hirai: It is a motion to table this issue to the next
meeting.
Mr. Plummer: No, not the issue - the motion.
Mayor Ferre: Let's get that corrected. Would you tell me
what your little book says there. When there is a motion to
table you're tabling the whole issue, aren't you?
Mrs. Dougherty: It is, it is a pending question, that is
the language. I would say the entire issue.
Mayor Ferre: The issue, that's what I thought. In other
words if the motion to table passes the whale thing is on
ice until the 23rd. Is that correct?
Mrs. Dougherty: Yes, sir, Mr. Mayor.
Mr. Dawkins: Mr. Mayor, let me make a statement here be-
cause we're going to be here all night looks like and I want
to say mine so that if I leave I'm on the record. Mr. Ron
Fine, thank you, sir, because I think you voiced what I feel
is a gut level feeling of many City of Miami residents. Our
number one priority, sir, is high unemployment and the
second one is crime. And if we put people to work, no
doubt, we will reduce the crime. I too feel that if the
Bayside Project is completed that we have something on which
1 the property owners on the west side of Biscayne Boulevard
1 can develop their property, thereby producing jobs, more
money and income for the residents. But, the Rouse Company
? put a million dollars into the Bayside Park.
Mr. Carollo: They promised.
Mr. Dawkins: Well, they're good.
Mr. Carollo: I hope so, so is Gould.
Mr. Dawkins: But my problem is, as Joe said, there's
Clemente Park, it can't be used. There's Gibson Park in
shambles. There's Hadley Park, alm.,st unusable. There is
Moore Park where we put a million dollars there but we still
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can't use it. But yet, everyone is concerned about every-
thing but the issues that wakes this community tick. Now,
I'm going to say this and be finished. I am in favor of the
Rouse project. I don't intend to do anything that would
jeopardize it. I'm also in favor of what Joe and Plummer
said, that if the public sector produces money then I'm in
favor of the library coming down. Okay? This gentleman
here is the only gentleman who got up and put his money
where his mouth was. This gentleman said I will raise
money, all you let me know is who. He got his checkbook out
and said I'll write $250 and not another soul in here went
for his pocketbook or his checkbook or whatsoever. So
really and truly now, are we sincere? If you're sincere
then we're going to wait until the next meeting and the
public, the private sector, if they're sincere, will come in
and say look, we have not been in good faith, you have not
been in good faith, now here. Here is the start of what
we're supposed to do, collectively as our elected officials
you're going to work with us, the private sector and togeth-
er we're going to get this done. But don't come in here
with a lot of promises and a lot of hot air and expect that
me as a Commissioner is going to only be concerned about
Bayside Park when I don't live there, I don't visit it and
the parks I do live around and visit are in shambles. S",
if you're sincere and got a gut level feeling as Mr. Fine,
then let's be about the business of saving Miami and let's
forget about our personal selfish images and what have you
and let's save Miami.
Mr. Carollo: Miller, before you go, I think we could clari-
fy this real quickly and we could go ahead and vote. Mr.
Gilchrist, could you come up to the mike, please. I am sure
that a very intelligent competent public servant like you
are can come up with something, some way that we could begin
some form of construction that would meet the intent of the
UDAG Grant and at the same time would not leave Mr. Noguchi
any openings on going into court and getting an injunction
to stop us. He might be able to later on, but that will
give us enough time to mount our own offensive, legal offen-
sive, with investigators, depositions and more. And that's
all I'd like to do now because if we could accomplish that
then I think we could proceed. I don't know, maybe you
could dig a well or something in there or even build some
dikes on top of the Library Building so that you could
really get a good look at the Bay.
Mr. Plummer: Put on the November ballot of July, if that is
to be the case, a referendum, because it looks like it is
$109000,000 short, and see if the people of this community
want to issue $10,000,000 worth of bonds to complete it.
Mr. Carollo: I'd be in favor of that also.
Mr. Plummer: Let's see what happens.
Mr. Carollo: I know what is going to happen, but I would be
in favor of that, J. L.
Mr. Plummer: Call the question on the table.
Mr. Carollo: No, I'm asking a question. The question is if
building docks on the Library so you can get a better view
of the Bay would accomplish that, let's start doing it right
now. If digging a well, anything that would meet the intent
of the UDAG Grant of starting construction and at the same
time won't give Noguchi any kind of a hold to go to court.
Mr. Gilchrist: Commissioner, there are two parts to that
question. We are prepared, the UDAG Grant requires that the
Bayside site be in construction and that the Bayfront Park
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Project be in construction by May 31st. You have already
approved the demolition of the Bayfront Auditorium and the
removal of the asbestos and that sheets that.
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Mr. Carollo: So we've met that intent.
Mr. Gilchrist: You've made that commitment. I must say
that you didn't pass Item 32 today, you withdrew it which is
the funding for that and we might have some difficulty.
Mr. Carollo: Well, we'll get to that.
Mr. Plummer: No, sir, we did not withdraw it, we put it off
until this time.
Mr. Gilchrist: Okay, I just wanted to remind you. The
second thing that I've said to you, we have advertised for a
contract to remove trees, prepare the landscape for the
Noguchi plan and we intend to come back to the Commission on
the 23rd of this month. I can't speak legally, I think I
need the help of our City Attorney to say whether either of
those items would stop Mr. Noguchi from any kind of action
if he so -intended to do that.
Mr. Carollo: Well, frankly, at this point in time, I don't
care if Mr. Noguchi gets in a plane and comes charging at
Bayfront park. What I do care, is our legal standing in
court, that is what I'm getting at.
Mr. Gilchrist: I have a hard time to answer that, Commis-
sioner, I think it is a matter of timing and the City Attor-
ney ought to answer that.
Mr. Carollo: Madam City Attorney, we need your help in this
and maybe you can think of some of the things that you would
feel that we can do, and the City Attorney can help you in
deciding whether we have a legal standing in order to go
ahead with them. Mr. Gilchrist?
Mr. Gilchrist: Okay, I think the City Attorney wanted to
speak first, but what our contract is is to remove trees and
place them in a nursery at the south end of the park.
Mr. Carollo: Now can that interfere, Madam City Attorney,
with ...
Mayor Ferre: Excuse me, Commissioner, a motion to table,
I've been patient, and I know because I don't want to get
into a big of but let's get this over with one way or the
other. There is a motion to table, now vote against it or
vote for it but let's get on. Then you can do your main
thing.
Mr. Carollo: Mr. Mayor, then if this motion is not passed
and if I can, we'll go back to this.
Mayor Ferre: Absolutely. I just want to get this thing on
and get it beyond today.
Mr. Plummer: Call the question on the table.
The preceding motion to table introduced by Mayor Ferre
failed to pass by the following vote -
AYES: Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner Demetrio J. Perez, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
Mayor Ferre: I now have the Chair back and I recognize you.
Mr. Carollo: Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Madam Attorney, can you
give us your legal opinion based on the first part? Maybe
Mr. Gilchrist can finish giving you the whole picture of
what they are planning on doing right now before May 31st.
Mr. Plummer: Excuse me, Mr. Gilchrist. Commissioner, there
has been no broach in the contract with Noguchi. If a
motion had been made that the building stays absolute, then
there could be considered a broach but there is no broach at
this point. All we have said is that it is not to be demcl-
fished at this time if the money was not there.
Mr. Carollo: Technically I agree with you, J. L., but want
to be able to hold onto all the legal angles that we can
because I know what is coming. From what I have seen here
today, that people are willing to use any possible trick and
falsehood to achieve their means, that tells me to expect
anything.
Mrs. Dougherty: If I understand what you want to accom-
plish, Mr. Vice -Mayor, you want to accomplish that the
Library will not be demolished until the funds are there, is
that correct?
Mr. Carollo: The motion is that the Library building will
not be demolished...
Mrs. Dougherty: Until all the funds for the completion of
the project are there?
Mr. Carollo: When all funds for the completion of the
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project are in a bank, in other words, the cash is in hand,
then we will hold another public hearing on the matter.
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Mayor Ferre: Are we ready to vote?
Mr. Carollo: No, ... I've been asking the City Attorney
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for a legal opinion, Mr. Mayor.
Mrs. Dougherty: The answer is you must commence construc-
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tion by May, you must complete construction by next October
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Mr. Carollo: We realize that, but the question is if we
begin by doing what Mr. Gilchrist says he has in mind, can
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that give Mr. Noguchi, how do we stand in the legal grounds
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if he comes up with some kind of a request for an injunction
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to stop us from doing anything in the park? He says he
wants to take some trees and put them in a nursery.
Mrs. Dougherty: Well, I think that we have to show a corn-
plete intent to go forward with the plan at this time.
Mr. Carollo: In other words, a complete intent to go for-
ward with what plan?
Mrs. Dougherty: With a plan. Now, potentially we may have
to amend our UDAG contract and substitute a different de-
sign. That might be something we would have to do and if
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we do so then we'd have a different amphitheater which may
send us out of the time constraints that we're in.
Mr. Carollo: What I'm saying is that if we begin construc-
tion by doing what Mr. Gilchrist stated that we would do,
is it the legal opinion that we will be on a sound legal
basis in starting to do that?
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Mrs. Dougherty: As long as our trail of legislation doesn't
indicate that we're going to start designing a different,
or start constructing with his and not completing his de-
sign.
Mr. Carollo: We're not saying that right now, all we're
doing is buying time so when we get by that May 31st dead--
line then the only other deadline is october of 86.
Mrs. Dougherty: That's right, so long as our legislation
doesn't show ...
Mr. Carollo: Fine, so that's all I'm trying to accomplish
and you stated to me that we're in sound legal grounds to do
that. Going back to the original motion then that Mr.
Plummer seconded, if there is no further discussion, Mr.
Mayor, call the roll.
Mayor Ferre: Oh, there is plenty of discussion. I want to
discuss it and I want to just put on the record what I think
we're doing here. Now, I want to state that there is an
awful lot of politics whether it be Richard Rondel or Ste -we
Ross or people that are running for public office that has
been played in this thing. And I understand we all have the
right, we all play politics. I'm the first one that plays.
But I want to tell you that what we are about to do here n.-t
only jeopardizes the question of the Library, the Noguchi,
it jeopardizes - this is one man's opinion - the Corps of
Engineers $9,000,0009 it will jeopardize the UDAG Grant, it
will bring the whole Rouse question before us. Rouse will
be demanding, I'm going to tell you you do not have my vote,
go get three other votes for the City of Miami putting up
any money on this thing. We don't have the money, I don't
know where we're going to get it. This whole thing is a lot
more complicated. Mr. Worth is sitting back there with a
frown on his face. There is a lot at stake. We are not
only playing with dynamite, we have lit the match, we are
about to throw it into the keg and then we're going to say
that it is not going to explode.
Mr. Carollo: I can't talk for some of the other individuals
that he has mentioned, he might be correct as far as those
go, but I would just like to clear the air on something that
Mr. Kenzie has been spreading around, and some of his paid
staff. Since 1980 when this first came before the Commis-
sion that I was sitting on when I was first elected in 79 I
have been consistent in my position and the statements I
have made before this Commission on where I stood on that
Library Building. In fact, quite a few times I stood alone
and the record speaks clearly on that and anybody that would
like copies of that I would be more than happy to get for
them. Anything that I'm saying now I said as far back as
1980.
Mr. Dawkins: Mr. Mayor, I'm going to make my position clear
again and I want to be sure that the public understands it.
I said that in the event that the private sector demon-
strates to me that it is going to meet its civic obligation,
whatever that may be, I'm not going to say that they prom-
ised X to the Y power or what. If they do this by the next
meeting or if they do it any time I have no problem. I have
said it before, if they demonstrate that they are sincere
I'm in favor of tearing the Library down. Now, if they can
do this before the next meeting I have no problem with
asking the Mayor to call a Special Meeting and I am commit-
ted to you to tear the Library down. But I'm not committed
to you to tear it down when you've made promises which you
say you didn't make which I've been hearing ever since I've
been here, and today is the first day that anyone got up to
contest the promise. Oh, no, we didn't make that promise.
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Now Maybe they didn't, but why did you wait until today to
make it known that you didn't make these promises? But
` promises are nothing, we don't care about that. We're
going to live from today on and if whoever is responsible
can show good faith then I'm going to have the same faith in
you as you had in me when you elected me. You didn't know
what I was going to do, so if you come to me and say hey,
look, we are going to raise the money, we want the Library
down, I'm with you. If you come tomorrow we'll ask the
Mayor to call a Special Commission Meeting and see if we've
got the votes and we will tear it down. Now, that's my
position.
Mr. Carollo: Miller, unfortunately, the only way that we
are going to guarantee to get all the moneys to build this
park without the City of Miami taxpayers having to pay a
good chunk of it is by doing what we are doing here today.
that's the only thing that is going to accomplish that.
Now, I hate to have to deal this way, but some times you
have to use that shotgun barrel effect.
Mr. Dawkins: Okay, Joe, you're right, but you see, we can't
ask the public to have any more faith in us than we have in
them. I mean it is a two way street. I mean I agree that
promises were made and not kept. See, but as Mr. Fine saij,
we've got to forget the past, Miami is in its infancy an:
we've got to help it grow and if the Rouse Company is going
to do that, and I'll be the first to say I couldn't care if
Noguchi built the fountain and drowned in it, it wouldn't
make me any difference. But right now I'm concerned in us
getting off square one.
Mr. Plummer: Let me, for the record, Mr. Manager and Mr.
Gilchrist, the demolition of the park does, in fact, make us
in compliance with the Bayside UDAG Grant, is that correct?
M►'. Gilchrist: Demolition of the auditorium, it does for
the Bayside aspect of it.
Mr. Plummer: Yes, sir. Okay.
Mr. Gilchrist: I wanted to clarify one thing that Comir.is-
sioner Carollo asked me. We have 282 trees to be treated in
the following three manners: (1) is to remove those which
are really of no significance, those which can be placed in
their future location at this time as to the Nagucchi and
also those that have to be moved and held in a nursery
condition until they can be placed in that plan and we have
that contract out on the street and it will be back before
you on the 23rd.
Mr. Carollo: Mr. Gilchrist, what is going to happen to the
War Memorial behind the Library?
Mr. Gilchrist: Well, at this time that's not touched.
Mr. Carollo: Sir?
Mr. Gilchrist: That's not touched at this time.
Mr. Carollo: Why not?
Mr. Gilchrist: The initial contract does not include any
demolition or anything other than the moving of trees.
Mr. Carollo: No, I'm saying in the whale design what was
going to happen to that?
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Mr. Gilchrist: I'm going to have to call on somebody else
for that. The architect for the project is here locally,
Commissioner, and I'd like to have him answer that.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, let me announce my intent that as
soon as this motion passes or fails that I am going to ask
for a motion to instruct the City Attorney to prepare for
the next meeting a bond issue for $10,000,000 which is what
I think we're short.
Mayor Ferre: You have to make it about $20,000,000 or
$25,000,000 to make up for what we're going to lose. We're
going to lose 9 and 6, that's about 15 and then we're short
10. We're going to lose the UDAG Grant, I have no doubt
about that.
Mr. Plummer: Well, Mr. Mayor, I'm going to still, as I said
before, ask the City Attorney to prepare a bond issue for
$10,000,000 for the Bayfront Park to be submitted to the
electorate on July 9th of whatever date that was in July, if
that comes about, if not, in November. So there is a motion
on the floor so I can't make a motion at this time, but it
is fully my intent to do such.
Mr. Carollo: (INAUDIBLE)
Mr. Plummer: It is my intent, Joe, that as soon as 1"his
motion that you have made, and I have seconded, passes or
fails, to instruct the City Attorney to come back at the
next meeting with a bond issue for $109000,000 to be
resurrected.
Mr. Carollo: I'll second that motion.
Mr. Plummer: Well, I can't make it until the first motion.
Mr. Carollo: I know, after we get by this one. All right,
if I may...
Mayor Ferre: We have a motion and we are about to vote on
it.
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Mr. Carollo: Mr. Mayor, let me read it into the record. A
resolution directing the City Manager to proceed with com-
mencement of construction and the implementation of the
Bayfront Park Redevelopment Project provided, however, that
final discussion be made on the demolition of the Library
Building.
Mrs. Dougherty: That's no final decision be made.
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Mr. Carollo: Yes, that the final decision be made on the
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demolition of the Library Building until all moneys or
letters of credit needed - is that all right, Commissioner -
needed to build the Bayfront Park Redevelopment Project are
in the bank.
Mr. Perez: The only part that I don't accept is that are in
the bank, I will accept that if we have in the next Commis-
sion Meeting, the 23rd, a good package where they show how
to get the whole money and this is something that the admin-
istration recommends, it will satisfy me.
Mr. Carollo: That's what I'm saying, Demetrio, letters of
{ § credit. That is one way of, you know, making a promise but
at the same time, you know, you have it in hand. That is
the motion, Commissioner Plummer, do you still second it?
Mr. Plummer: Yes, sir.
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Mayor Ferre: All right, is there
further discussion on that
motion as amended and trade
at
this time? The Sword of
Domocles Motion. All right,
are
we ready to go to the Sword
of Domocles? Call the roll.
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Mr. Perez: Before the roll,
this motion, do you accept the
amendment?
Mr. Carollo: No, I do not.
Mr. Perez: You don't accept
any
amendment.
Ms. Hirai: Roll call on the
main
motion.
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The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner
Carollo, who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 85-519
A RESOLUTION DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO
PROCEED WITH COMMENCEMENT OF CONSTRUCTION
AND THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE BAYFRONT PARK
REDEVELOPMENT PROJECT PROVIDED, HOWEVER,
THAT NO FINAL DECISION SHALL BE MADE ON THE
DEMOLITION OF THE LIBRARY BUILDING UNTIL ALL
MONIES OR LETTERS OF CREDIT NEEDED TO BUILD
THE BAYFRONT PARK REDEVELOPMENT PROJECT ARE
IN THE BANK.
(Hhere follows body of resolution, omitted
here and on file in the Office of the City
Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the
resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
NOES: Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
ABSENT: None.
ON ROLL CALL:
Mr. Perez: I vote with the motion under the condition that
at the next Commission Meeting, the 23rd, they bring here a
package that satisfies the extension to have the funds of
the private sector. I will support that project.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, at this time I make a motion in-
structing the City Attorney to prepare a bond issue for the
electorate to be submitted in the earliest election to be
held in the City of Miami in the amount of $10,000,000 no,
leave the numbers blank, I'll go that far, for the purposes
of ....
Mr. Carollo: No more than $10,000,000, I think we have to
give a figure, don't we?
Mr. Plummer: Fine, we'll do that at the next meeting when
we deal with it but just right now to prepare the bond issue
for that purpose.
Mr. Carollo: Okay, I second the motion.
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The following motion was introduced by Commissioner
Plummer, who Moved its adoption:
MOTION NO. 85-520
A MOTION INSTRUCTING AND DIRECTING THE CITY
ATTORNEY TO PREPARE FOR THE NEXT CITY COM-
MISSION MEETING THE NECESSARY LEGISLATION
FOR A BOND ISSUE QUESTION TO BE SUBMITTED TO
THE ELECTORATE AT THE EARLIEST POSSIBLE
TIME, LEAVING THE AMOUNT OF THE PROPOSED
BOND ISSUE BLANK; AND FURTHER STIPULATING
THAT SAID PROPOSED BOND ISSUE IS INTENDED TO
COVER FOR A POSSIBLE SHORTAGE IN FUNDING
WHICH IS BEING ANTICIPATED IN CONNECTION
WITH THE PROPOSED REDEVELOPMENT OF BAYFRONT
PARK.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Carollo, the motion
was passed and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
NOES: Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
ABSENT: None.
ON ROLL CALL:
Mayor Ferre: In voting no, I wish to state that this is a
bad situation and this doesn't make it any sweeter. It is a
major defeat for the downtown, for the City of Miami, for
everything that is involved here. That is my opinion.
Mr. Carollo: I respect that, but let me say this to you. I
think if Hannibal would have been a little more patient and
would have not gotten so discouraged he might have just
entered the gates of Rome. But Mr. Weaver and the represen-
tatives from Rouse, I would be more than happy to meet with
you this week and Mrs. Hill and anyone else and try to find
a solution, a way that these moneys can be raised so that we
can proceed with what I think would be best for everyone as
a whole.
Mr. Pereira: Mr. Mayor, I want to try to get some clarifi-
cation because during the making of all those motions sever-
al times it was alluded to that with the City Manager's
recommendation, and we have not been able to figure out what
is it that you want for the next meeting regarding to this
item and I would like to get a clarification of that so that
we be able to ...
Mayor Ferre: Nothing, as far as I'm concerned, this is s
dead issue.
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Mr. Carollo: No, Mr. Mayor, I think again you're exaggerat-
ing. Item 32, Commissioner Plummer, I think we still have
to approve that to meet the intent of the UDAG Grant on the
Bayside part of the project. The moneys are going to be
raised, I guarantee you. This is the only way that you're
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going to get some of the people out there to go out and
raise the money.
61. ESTABLISH BAYSIDF SP'_'CS':LTY CFF..TFP - Arr1;r1rRTA rr
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S1,996.000.0n
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Mr. Carollo: Second.
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN EMERGENCY ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDI-
NANCE NO. 99399 ADOPTED DECEMBER 20,
1984, THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT APPROPRIA-
TIONS ORDINANCE, BY ESTABLISHING BAYSIDE
SPECIALTY CENTER PROJECT IN THE AMOUNT
OF $199989000 AND APPROPRIATING AN
AMOUNT OF $5159000 FROM 1984 STORM SEWER
GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS AN AMOUNT OF
$322000 FROM 1980 SANITAhy SEWER GENER-
AL OBLIGATION BONDS, AN AMOUNT OF
$968,000 FROM 1980 HIGHWAY GENERAL
OBLIGATION BONDS, AND AN AMOUNT OF
$193000 FROM 1980 HIGHWAY GENERAL
OBLIGATION BONDS INTEREST EARNINGS FOR A
TOTAL APPROPRIATION TO SAID PROJECT IN
THE AMOUNT OF $19998,000; CONTAINING A
REPEALER PROVISION AND A SEVERABILITY
CLAUSE.
Was introduced by Commissioner Plummer and seconded by
Commissioner Carollo, for adoption as an emergency measure
and dispensing with the requirement of reading same on two
separate days, which was agreed to by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
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NOES: None.
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ABSENT: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Whereupon the Commission on motion of Commissioner
Plummer and seconded by Commissioner Carollo, adopted said
ordinance by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
;. Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
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NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
SAID ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO. 9992.
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the
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record and announced that copies were available to the
members of the City Commission and to the public.
62 & 63. DISCUSSION OF POSSI3LE FUNDING FROM PRIVATE SECTOR
FOR BAYFRONT PARK RDEVELOPMENT PROJECT AND
DISPOSICION OF LIBRARY BUILDING.
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Mr. Carollo: Mr. Weaver...now is
need to vote upon to keep the
Bayside portion? On the part
part, David?
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there anything else that we
UDAG Grant alive on the
of Bayside, not the other
May 91 1985
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Mr. David Weaver: Could I make one suggestion, seeing as
you asked the question, Mr. Vice -Mayor? Your motion as
amended by Mr. Dawkins, I believe dramatically would ins -
crease the probability of being able to get money from the
private sector. The problem that I believe exists with your
motion, sir, is that all you have agreed to do is discuss
the motion again at the next meeting.
Mr. Carollo: David, I think you've heard enough of our
comments to know that if those moneys are raised, this
Commission will go ahead and demolish that Library building.
Mr. Weaver: Would it be possible to get that on the record,
Sir?
Mr. Carollo: That was in the record already. I think by
all the statements that all of us have made. Now, I think
that the ball is in you all's court now to raise the funds.
See, I as a taxpayer of the City of Miami that lives here, I
don't want to see my property bill go up more and my garbage
tax collected for the sake of that.
Mr. Weaver: Sir, I agree with you and the only thing that I
would like to put into the record as a suggestion is that
those people who are going to be going out trying to raise
money, and I personally am prepared to go out and try to
raise money, I personally am prepared to do that. We need
some specific concrete parameters. How much money do we
need to have raised? By when? And what are you going to do
�. on your side if we raise it?
Mr. Carollo: Well, I think what we need to do is sit down
immediately tomorrow and figure out just what we have in
hand, not false promises or reaching for the sky and then
figure out how much more we need and go out and raise it.
I'll be more than happy to meet with anyone in order to
accomplish that.
Mr. Weaver: Okay, the concern that I have, sir, is that we
are up against a time constraint and I am concerned if we
don't know today what the deal is we can't go out and raise
money. People are not going to give money under those
circumstances.
Mr. Carollo: Not really, because we found a way, a legal
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way to begin construction by May 31st, so we've got some
time.
Mr. Weaver: I hope so, sir. I sincerely hope so.
Mr. Carollo: You know, unless someone invades the park or
something.
Mayor Ferre: You've never heard of Mr. Stockman? You watch
and see what Mr. Stockman does in the next weeks. This is
going to be reported. See those newspaper guys? You watch
and see what Stockman does.
Mr. Carollo: Well, I've heard of Mr. Stockman but I've also
heard of Mr. Mondale and Mr. Kennedy and Tip O'Neill.
That's why it takes people like Stockman to act the way they
do because of what these guys have done to the Country for
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the last 20 years.
Mayor Ferre: Fine, and they will continue to do what
Stockman is going to do to this project.
Mr. Carollo:
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Mr. Martin Fine: Mr. Mayor, just for the record, my name is
Martin Fine and I atn speaking as a private citizen and for
the record I have lived in Miami 38 years, all of which is
in the City of Miami and I pay taxes here. I am very
confused and I want to pick up on what you're trying to do
and I think we're kind of moving in the right direction to
some extent. (1) I'm saddened with the way it has come
about but we have a chance to save it, it seems to me. (1)
I believe that the demolition of the Bayfront Library, from
what little I've read formally about the documents, and I'm
not expressing a legal opinion, complies in intent with the
start of construction on Bayside. Pardon me? I did mean
the auditorium. Thank you, John. The demolition of
Bayfront Auditorium complies in intent with the requirement
to start construction on Bayside. I think you ought to
document that, send the folks at UDAG or anywhere else a
letter saying that is what you have done. Then you ought to
move some dirt and do some other things in the park which
say we have started construction on the park. Tell the
folks at UDAG that's what we've done. Now, I believe,
without getting in your great City Attorney's opinions, just
my own personal non -legal opinion, that from an intent point
of view you're going to preserve it and we need to work
together to keep that going. The next step seems to me to
be a lot of misunderstanding about what the private sector
said they would do and wouldn't do so I would like to try to
help clarify that.
Mr. Carollo: Marty, let me say this before you proceed. I
would like to thank you for being so honest and up front in
using some real honest logic, it is about time we started
hearing some of that.
Mr. Fine: Well thank you. Let me just finish, I've got
some more. Thank you, Joe. I think that J. L. probably has
one of the best memories that I've ever heard on the
Commission, but I want to tell you, J. L., I think you're
wrong about anybody making a promise about money. What I
think you really ought to do is ask the City Clerk to
extract from the minutes who made that promise and in what
dollar amount. Now, that is one thing. The second thing
is, Joe, I want to say to you in all due respect, you said
the private sector never comes up with money. I want to
tell you that this private sector...
Mr. Carollo: No, that's not quite what I said.
Mr. Fine: Well, excuse me, you indicated that there is a
lack of money for certain reasons at certain times for
certain causes. For the Business Assistance Center for
private business people, Greater Miami Chamber of Commerce
and a lot of people in this community raised 7.2 million
dollars to put people into business. Now, I don't mean we
have succeeded in everything. What we ought to do is get a
goal of how much money we ought to raise. Now, I don't
think we can raise $10,000,000, J. L. That just isn't fair.
We just can't raise $10,000,000. Well, just a minute. I
don't know how much you need.
Mr. Plummer: $20,000,000.
Mr. Fine: I don't accept any of those figures.
Mr. Carollo: About $22,000,000 it takes to build, we have
about $13,000,000 in the grants.
Mr. Fine: I think if you follow what you started and what
David Weaver has said, maybe you don't have to spend
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$22,000,000. Maybe you can spend $17,000,000, maybe the
private sector can say to you, we'll raise $2,000,000 or
$3,000,000 and that may be enough. Now, David is right, I
think we can raise a couple million dollars.
Mayor Ferre: Marty, nobody wants to listen to the figures.
We have $18,000,000 in hand. Nobody wants to listen to
that. We have $18,000,000 and we are $3,000,000 short.
Mr. Carollo: Then, Maurice, we're going to make it.
Mayor Ferre: The Knight Foundation says, I'm sorry that Mr.
Hill has left, but I understand that they're considering
$650,000 between, you know, so we're a couple million
dollars short. We don't need any $10,000,000.
Mr. Fine: Mr. Mayor, I just want to finish, if I may. I
think that the private sector, given the assurances that
David has suggested, some assurances at the net meeting that
you're going to take that Library down under certain
conditions, we can raise a reasonable amount of money once
we do it. We will not, at least I will not tell you how much
because I don't know. Now, I'm not going to do, I know Mr.
Raider, and he is a first rate citizen. I didn't feel the
• need to stand up and say how much I'm going to contribute.
I guarantee you we will raise money. You have our
commitment we're going to raise money and i just want to
give you one last item.
Mr. Carollo: I know you will Marty, I know you will. I
know Ron fine back there will too.
Mr. Fine: I think what you ought to do is consider that we
have an opportunity to make world history. We can make
happen in this community what we want to happen and we ought
to turn tonight's meeting into a productive meeting next
time and go forward with some numbers and go forward to
Rouse Company and say we're going to make it happen, go
forward to the investment community and listen to Mr. Worth
and say, you come up with a little money too and help us and
get it done.
Mr. Carollo: Marty, let me say this to you, I think
tonight's meeting has been a very productive meeting. I
think what we have just about guaranteed here tonight is
that the taxpayers of Miami are not
going to have to put up
a penny of our moneys for this.
Indirectly, sure, we're
putting up money for the UDAG Grants and the Army Corps of
Engineers but we're not going to have
to put any from our
budget here. So what we're going
to accomplish today, and
we started to accomplish it today,
is that the moneys are
going to be found and I think next
meeting is going to be
even more productive.
Mr. Fine: Let's make it happen, we
can make it happen.
Mr. Carollo: We will, I'm sure we will.
Mayor Ferre: All right, is there
anything else before we
adjourn?
Mr. Perez: Mr. Fine, may I ask you
something? Would you be
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able to have a formal proposition
for the next Commission
Meeting?
Mr. Fine: Would I do what?
Mr. Perez: A formal ro osition.
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Mr. Fine: I don't really to be in the business of making
formal propositions because, for example, David Weaver has
been the City's negotiator and is in a point where he knows
something. I can say this to you, I can go back to the
Chamber and report what has happened and they will be very
disappointed. By the same token, if you give us a
reasonable number that we can work with, we may be able to
go out and help raise that kind of money from the private
sector, not the Chamber, I'm not speaking for the Chamber.
Now, David, are we generally saying the same thing, do you
think? We'll go out and help raise the money.
Mr. David Weaver: For the record, my name is David Weaver,
800 Brickell Avenue. Commissioners, if you could possibly
consider giving us a concrete objective, a specific
objective to come back here by the 23rd of this month with
x-number of dollars, I personally commit, I believe that the
next Chairman of the Greater Miami Chamber of Commerce
standing right here beside me is prepared to commit that
we'll go out and do our damndest to raise that money.
you've got to tell us what the number is.
Mr. Plummer: I think that is a very fair trade. Okay?
Ferre is talking about there is $18,000,000 in the bank,
this one is talking about $12,000,000. Mr. Manager?
Mayor Ferre: Who is talking about $12,000,000 Who is
talking about $12,000,000?
Mr. Plummer: I'm sorry, I am.
Mayor Ferre: Where do you get the information? I want to
repeat the figures so we clearly understand. Roy Kenzie,
would you come out from hiding behind that thing and get on
that microphone and tell us how much money we have.
Mr. Roy Kenzie: We have funds that are committed, and John,
you might correct me as I go, that are applied towards the
park 6.2 million from the Corps of Engineers, 6.012 from the
UDAG Grant, the Rouse Company contribution of a million,
State and Land Water Conservation Grant of $455,856, City
match of $455,856, State F.R.D.A.T. Grant of $200,000, City
match of that of $100,000, a total of $149224,566 then there
is an additional ...
Mayor Ferre: Fourteen million what?
Mr. Kenzie: $14,424,000.
Mayor Ferre: And the if the Knight Foundation Grant comes
through that brings it up to $15,000,000, right?
Mr. Kenzie: Right, that would take it up to $15,000,000.
Mayor Ferre: Now, if Senator Pepper's increase goes -
$2,000,000.
Mr. Kenzie: That's another $2,0009000 so that's
$17400,000.
Mayor Ferre: I stand corrected. We've got $17,000,000,
let's not say $12,000,000. Now we need $21,000,000 so what
we're short is $4,000,000.
Mr. Plummer: Exactly, so you can reduce that bond issue.
Marty, you might be right but it is the voice of the people
who re going to have to pick it up if this private sector
money doesn't come forward.
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Mr. Fine: but you don't need $10,0009000. There is the man
running the project.
Mr. Plummer: Excuse me, did I not tell her to leave it
blank?
Mr. Fine: May I just make one last comment? Hey, I would
literally beg you to ask the Clerk to go through the records
to see if there was ever a commitment made and if so how
much, but...
Mayor Ferre: The Clerk is so instructed.
Mr. Fine: All right. (b) I want to tell you on behalf of
just one member of that Bayfront Park Committee and one very
caring citizen in this community I am going to work with
Tina Hills and that group and anybody else who wants to work
and we're going to try to raise $2,000,000. Period, end of
paragraph. You all figure out how to do the rest of it.
And let me say just this one last thing, J. L., if I may.
Tonight isn't the night to do it, but I think you all ought
to remember somewhere along the line there is no such thing
as original public money, it is all private money that is
invested by investors and insurance companies and banks and
others and it is paid in the form of taxes and paid in the
form of fees and it ends up in the public sector and you do
a good job, by and large, of administering it. So when Mr.
Worth and Mr. Gould and Mr. Rouse and Mr. Ronny Fine, one of
the great pieces of property there that is going to be
developed says if you do those things we'll invest more than
a billion dollars in the next few years, that is a hell of a
lot of private money. Let me give you one last statistic,
and the Mayor knows this very well. In 1979 the assessable
real estate tax base in the City of Miami was four billion
dollars. Last year, it was eight billion dollars. That is
a hell of a lot of private money. Now what you're really
asking us to do is go out and get charitable money and we're
willing to try to do it. I think we can raise $2,000,000.
Mr. Skip Sheppard: Wait a second, Marty, I'm on your team.
My name is Skip Sheppard, for the record, and I want to tell
you right now, gentlemen, I'm going to help raise a lot of
money too. The entire hotel industry is in back of this
situation and we're going to raise money for you. So I'm
right with you, Marty.
Mayor Ferre: Okay, what else have we got tonight?
Mr. Fine: Let the record reflect we didn't say we're going
to bring a check on the 23rd.
Mr. Plummer: Marty, your word is as good as gold.
Mr. Fine: Thank you, we'll try.
Mr. Dawkins: We're going to be here. At the next meeting,
Marty, you will bring, I mean we will come in with some
commitments.
Mr. Fine: No, absolutely not.
Mr. Dawkins: What is it then?
1 Mr. Fine: I'm going to tell you I give you the commitment
tonight, we're going to give you the commitment we'll use
our very best efforts. We'll use all the smarts we can.
We'll twist all the arms we have to twist. We'll do all the
begging we have to beg. We'll do whatever it takes to get
i $2,000,000 here. I am not going to be a party to a sham. I
am not coming here on the 23rd telling you we have the money
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or we have commitments for it. On the other hand, if you
.... No, I'm telling you that now.
Mr. Dawkins: Okay, you're telling me you'll work hard to
get it.
Mr. Fine: No, I'm telling you that right now. Not only me,
myself, David, a thousand other people in this town, Tina
Hills, a half a dozen or more foundations, we don't need to
wait until the 23rd. I'm telling you that right now - you
re going to get $29000#000 from the private sector. I
believe you're going to get it if you act a little more
responsibly than we did tonight and send a very clear
message that when you get the $2,000,000 you're going to rip
that damned Library down.
Mr. Dawkins: All right, I'll make a motion now to Marty
Fine that if he shows me that they've got the $2,000,000 I
vote that the minute that is shown the Library will come
down.
Mr. Perez: I second that motion without any doubt.
Mr. Plummer: Under discussion I still have to ask the same
•
question. We have $179000,000 in the bank, Marty has
pledged that he will do everything he can to bring
$29000,000 - that's $19,0009000. I have to ask the other
question - where is the other $3,0009000 coming from?
Mr. Dawkins: Senator Pepper.
Mr. Plummer: Well, if he wants to come make a pledge I'm
willing to listen. Mr. Manager, where is the other money
going to come from?
Mr. Dawkins: We're going to raise it in the memory of
Charlie Hadley with Claude Pepper's help.
Mr. Plummer: You can't even get clay on Hadley's court if
that's the kind of memory you're talking about. I think it
is an honest question to ask.
Mr. Carollo: No question about it, J. L., I'm in agreement
with that, but more than that, what I'm trying to really get
to the bottom line of is just how many dollars do we really
have in hand?
Mr. Plummer: They came up with a figure which is somewhat,
I feel, in reason of $17,000,000.
Mr. Carollo: Well, how again, have they come up with that?
Mr. Plummer: Get your special investigator.
Mr. Gilchrist: Presuming that the James L. Knight Grant for
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the $650,000 plus the $14,400,000 that we have here gets us
$15,000,000. If Senator Pepper was correct saying that he
was raising the money available from the Corps of Engineers
to I think he said $9,000,000, that gets us - up to
$9,000 000r that gets us another $3,000 000 15,000,000 and
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3,000,000 is $18,000,000 we're basically $3,000000 short.
You said $4,000,000 before...
Mr. Plummer: Fine. Where is that $3,000,000 coming from?
Mr. Carollo: But see, J. L., that is assuming, and I know
Pepper will try his hardest to achieve that but, you know,
he can't guarantee that he is going to get those additional
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$3,000000. Nor do we have the guarantees that the Knight
Foundation is going to come with the additional $650,000.
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So I think you have to predicate any additional motions,
Commissioner, based on Pepper's statement tonight of it
being so, that they have to get the full $9,000,000, that
the Knight Foundation has to come up with the $650,000 and
still we need to find out from the Manager where the
additional $3000000 is coming from.
Mr. Plummer: Why don't you come back on the 23rd and tell
us?
Mr. Pereira: All right.
Mayor Ferre: There was a motion on the floor, we didn't
vote on it. Thank you.
Mr. Carollo: There is no motion on the floor. Commissioner
Dawkins, we were discussing it because there was no second
to begin with.
Mr. Dawkins: Yes, demetrio seconded it.
Mayor Ferre: Demetrio seconded it.
Mr. Carollo: The area that I'm getting to is the following:
Based on Pepper being able to acquire the $9,000,000 which
is another big if - he will try his best but you know how
hard it is. So that is another $3000000 up in the air.
If the Knight Ridder chain comes up with the $650,000 -
another if - we're still - and Marty the $2,000,000 he
pledges, we're still $3,000,000 short.
Mr. Dawkins: No, only one.
Mr. Carollo: How do you figure only one? You're saying
that if they raise $2,000,000 we're $1,0009000 shy?
Mr. Fine: (INAUDIBLE, NOT USING MICROPHONE).
Mr. Plummer: Yes, Marty, that is like out of the Hyatt
House, of all the money we've gotten out of the Hyatt House.
Mr. Carollo: Well, Grassie came out all right with it, I'll
tell you.
Mr. Dawkins: Well, let me say this. I feel that there is
no doubt in my mind that Pepper will get the $9,000,000.
Mr. Carollo: But Miller, we've got to predicate the motion
based on all that otherwise we're all going back on what we
stated.
Mr. Dawkins: But when Pepper stands up and starts to cry
and say that this fountain is dedicated to "My Mildred", he
is going to end up with $9,000,000 in a hurry. I'll bet on
it.
Mr. Plummer: I would ask my colleague Commissioner Dawkins
that rather than pass a motion which in my estimation,
without addressing the deficit, I would appreciate that this
matter be put off until the 230rd at such time as the
Manager can come back in a realistic way and say here is
exactly what I feel is in the bank, here is what we can
collect, here is what the deficit will be and how that
deficit will be paid. I think it is only fair that that be
done.
Mr. Dawkins: Out of respect to my colleague, I have to
withdraw and just go with it. Out of respect I withdraw and
he withdraws his second. We're back where we were, square
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Mr. Carollo: There is no motion on the floor. Commissioner
Dawkins, we were discussing it because there was no second
to begin with.
Mr. Dawkins: Yes, demetrio seconded it.
Mayor Ferre: Demetrio seconded it.
Mr. Carollo: The area that I'm getting to is the following:
Based on Pepper being able to acquire the $9,000,000 which
is another big if - he will try his best but you know how
hard it is. So that is another $39000,000 up in the air.
If the Knight Ridder chain comes up with the $650,000 -
another if - we're still - and Marty the $2,000,000 he
pledges, we're still $3,000,000 short.
Mr. Dawkins: No, only one.
Mr. Carollo: Now do you figure only one? You're saying
that if they raise $2,000,000 we're $1,0000000 shy?
Mr. Fine: (INAUDIBLE, NOT USING MICROPHONE).
Mr. Plummer: Yes, Marty, that is like out of the Hyatt
House, of all the money we've gotten out of the Hyatt House.
Mr. Carollo: Well, Grassie came out all right with it, I'll
tell you.
Mr. Dawkins: Well, let me say this. I feel that there is
no doubt in my mind that Pepper will get the $9,000,000.
Mr. Carollo: But Miller, we've got to predicate the motion
based on all that otherwise we're all going back on what we
stated.
Mr. Dawkins: But when Pepper stands up and starts to cry
and say that this fountain is dedicated to "My Mildred", he
is going to end up with $9,0009000 in a hurry. I'll bet on
it.
Mr. Plummer: I would ask my colleague Commissioner Dawkins
that rather than pass a motion which in my estimation,
without addressing the deficit, I would appreciate that this
matter be put off until the 23rd at such time as the Manager
can come back in a realistic way and say here is exactly
what I feel is in the bank, here is what we can collect,
here is what the deficit will be and how that deficit will
be paid. I think it is only fair that that be done.
Mr. Dawkins: Out of respect to my colleague, I have to
withdraw and just go with it. Out of respect I withdraw and
he withdraws his second. We're back where we were, square
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R0015 AREA GENERALLY BOUNDED BY I-959 METRORAIL. R.O.Y.
S.W. 17 RD. S.W. 2 AVE., ETC.
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AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE ZONING ATLAS
OF ORDINANCE NO. 9500, THE ZONING
ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA,
BY CHANGING THE ZONING CLASSIFICATION
FOR THE AREA GENERALLY BOUNDED BY THE I-
95 EXPRESSWAY, METRORAIL RIGHT-OF-WAY,
SOUTHWEST 17TH ROAD, SOUTHWEST 2ND
AVENUE, A LINE PARALLEL TO AND
APPROXIMATELY 210 FEET NORTHEAST OF
SOUTHWEST 17TH ROAD AND SOUTHWEST 2ND
COURT (MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED
HEREIN), FROM RS-2/2 ONE -FAMILY DETACHED
RESIDENTIAL TO RO-1/5 RESIDENTIAL -
OFFICE; MAKING FINDINGS; AND BY MAKING
ALL THE NECESSARY CHANGES ON PAGE NO. 37
OF SAID ZONING ATLAS MADE A PART OF
ORDINANCE NO. 9500, BY REFERENCE AND
DESCRIPTION IN ARTICLE 3, SECTION 300,
THEREOF; CONTAINING A REPEALER PROVISION
AN A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.
Was introduced by Commissioner Plummer and seconded by
a Commissioner Carollo, and was passed on its first reading by
title by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public
record and announced that copies were available to the
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65. FIRST READING ORDINANCE: ORD. 9500 ATLAS CHANGE FROM
95-2/2 TO NO-3/5 AT APPROXIMATELY 1600 S.V. 2ND AVENUE.
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AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE ZONING ATLAS
OF ORDINANCE NO. 95001 THE ZONING
ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA,
BY CHANGING THE ZONING CLASSIFICATION OF
APPROXIMATELY 1600 SOUTHWEST 2ND AVENUE,
MIAMI, FLORIDA, (MORE PARTICULARLY
DESCRIBED HEREIN) FROM RS-2/2 ONE -FAMILY
DETACHED RESIDENTIAL TO RO-3/5
RESIDENTIAL -OFFICE, MAKING FINDINGS; AND
BY MAKING ALL THE NECESSARY CHANGES ON
PAGE NO. 37 OF SAID ZONING ATLAS MADE A
PART OF ORDINANCE NO. 95009 BY REFERENCE
AND DESCRIPTION IN ARTICLE 3, SECTION
300, THEREOF; CONTAINING A REPEALER
PROVISION AN A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.
Was introduced by Commissioner Plummer and seconded by
Commissioner Dawkins and was passed on its first reading by
title by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public
record and announced that copies were available to the
members of the City Commission and to the public.
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66. FIRST READING ORDINANCE: ORD. 9500 ATLAS CHANCE FROM
RG-2/5 TO 10-3/5 IN AREA GENERALLY BOUNDED DY S.M. 2ND
COURT, S M. 15TH ROAD, S.M. 1ST AVENUE A A LINE PARALLEL
TO A APPROXIMATELY 115-150 FT. S.M. OF S.N. 15TH ROAD.
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AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE ZONING ATLAS
OF ORDINANCE NO. 95009 THE ZONING
ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA,
BY CHANGING THE ZONING CLASSIFICATION
FOR THE AREA GENERALLY BOUNDED BY
SOUTHWEST 2ND COURT, SOUTHWEST 15TH
ROAD, SOUTHWEST 1ST AVENUE AND A LINE
PARALLEL TO AND APPROXIMATELY 115-150
FEET SOUTHWEST OF SOUTHWEST 15TH ROAD
(MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED HEREIN),
FROM RG 2/5 GENERAL RESIDENTIAL TO RO-
3/5 RESIDENTIAL -OFFICE; MAKING FINDINGS;
AND BY MAKING ALL THE NECESSARY CHANGES
ON PAGE NO. 37 OF SAID ZONING ATLAS MADE
A PART OF ORDINANCE NO. 95009 BY
REFERENCE AND DESCRIPTION IN ARTICLE 3,
SECTION 300, THEREOF; CONTAINING A
REPEALER PROVISION AND A SEVERABILITY
CLAUSE.
Was introduced by Commissioner Plummer and seconded by
Commissioner Perez and was passed on its first reading by
title by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public
record and announced that copies were available to the
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67. FIRST READING ORDINANCE: ORD. 9500 ATLAS CHANGE FROM
RGr2/5 TO RO-1/5 IN AREA GENERALLY BOUNDED BY S.W. 2ND
AVE., S.W. 17TH ROAD, S.W. 1 AVE. A A LINE PARALLEL TO d
APPROXIMATELY 390 FOOT N.E. OF S.W. 17TH ROAD.
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AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE ZONING ATLAS
OF ORDINANCE NO. 9500, THE ZONING
ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA,
BY CHANGING THE ZONING CLASSIFICATION
FOR THE AREA GENERALLY BOUNDED BY
SOUTHWEST 2ND AVENUE, SOUTHWEST 17TH
ROAD, SOUTHWEST 1ST AVENUE AND A LINE
PARALLEL TO AND APPROXIMATELY 390 FEET
NORTHEAST OF SOUTHWEST 17TH ROAD, MIAMI,
FLORIDA (MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED
HEREIN) FROM RG-2/5 GENERAL RESIDENTIAL
TO RO-3/5 RESIDENTIAL -OFFICE; MAKING '
FINDINGS; AND BY MAKING ALL THE
NECESSARY CHANGES ON PAGE NO. 37 OF SAID
ZONING ATLAS MADE A PART OF ORDINANCE
NO. 9500, BY REFERENCE AND DESCRIPTION
IN ARTICLE 39 SECTION 300, THEREOF;
CONTAINING A REPEALER PROVISION AND A
SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.
Was introduced by Commissioner Plummer and seconded by
Commissioner Perez and was passed on its first reading by
title by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None. j
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public I
record and announced that copies were available to the
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68. ALLOCATE MrSDO IN SUPPORT OP "MIAMIiDADE TRADE AND
TOURIST COMMISSION" TO ALLOW THEM TO OPERATE PENDING
OUTSTANDING AUDIT.
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The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner
Dawkins, who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 85-521
A RESOLUTION ALLOCATING AN AMOUNT NOT TO
EXCEED $159500 FROM SPECIAL PROGRAMS AND
ACCOUNTS, CONTINGENT FUND, IN SUPPORT OF
THE MIAMI-DADE TRADE AND TOURIST
COMMISSION TO ALLOW SUCH AGENCY TO
CONTINUE TO OPERATE ITS PROGRAM OF
ACTIVITIES PENDING RESOLUTION OF
OUTSTANDING AUDIT FINDINGS; SUCH
ALLOCATION TO BE EXPENDED UPON THE
APPROVAL OF THE CITY MANAGER; FURTHER
DIRECTING THE SCHEDULING OF THIS ITEM ON
THE MAY 23, 1985 COMMISSION AGENDA FOR
FURTHER CONSIDERATION.
(Here follows body of resolution,
omitted here and on file in the Office
of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the
resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
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69. CLAIM SETTLEMENT: JOHN PELL ELLIS - $50000.
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The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner
Dawkins, who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 85-522
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE DIRECTOR OF
FINANCE TO PAY TO JOHN PELL ELLIS, WITHOUT
ADMISSION OF LIABILITY, THE SUM OF FIFTY
THOUSAND DOLLARS ($50,000.00) IN FULL AND
COMPLETE SETTLEMENT OF ANY AND ALL CLAIMS
AND DEMANDS AGAINST THE CITY OF MIAMI, UPON
THE EXECUTION OF A RELEASE RELEASING THE
CITY OF MIAMI FROM ANY AND ALL CLAIMS AND
DEMANDS.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here
and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
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May 9, 1985
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Perez, the
resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Perre
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
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70. BRIEF DISCUSSION ITEM: ADMINISTRATION INFORMS THE
COMMISSION THAT THE U.S.S.R. WILL NOT SEND PARTICIPANTS
TO THIS YEARS 11VIII C.O.T.A.L. WORLD CONGRESS IN
MIAMI.
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Mayor Ferre: Let the record reflect that the Soviet Union
is not coming to the C.O.T.A.L.
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71. RESOLUTION ALLOWING DISPLAY OF FIREWORKS IN MIAMI
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Mr. Pereira: On C.O.T.A.L. I have another item. Mr. Mayor,
we need authorization from the Commission in order to extend
the Miami Ordinance No. 9540, the fire works tha; will be at
one of the events after 10 P.M. so we need authorization to
waive that ordinance.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner
Dawkins, who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 85-523
A RESOLUTION RELAXING THE LIMITATIONS ON
THE DISPLAY OF FIREWORKS TO ALLOW THE
STAGING OF PYROTECHNIC DISPLAYS IN THE
MIAMI MARINE STADIUM UNTIL 12:00
MIDNIGHT ON MAY 161 1985, SUBJECT TO THE
ISSUANCE OF A PERMIT BY THE DEPARTMENT
OF FIRE, RESCUE AND INSPECTION SERVICES.
(Here follows body of resolution,
omitted here and on file in the Office
of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Perez, the
resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES:
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ABSENT: None.
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72. BRIEF COMMENTS REGARDING PROPOSED STRICT 99GULATION AND
ENFORCEMENT OF LAWS REGARDING 'CRUISYNG1. (DEFERRED)
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Manager, I move that the administration
immediately look into the town code on cruising enforcement.
Carollo, cruising enforcement. This is the Danville Police
Department in California has a very strict procedure on
procedure. This is a watch supervisor ...
Mr. Carollo: I'd like to defer that, Mr. Mayor. I think I
know where that is coming from ...
Mayor Ferre: Coconut Grove.
Mr. Plummer: Wait a minute, what is cruising?
Mayor Ferre: Okay, anything else, Mr. Manager?
73• RESOLUTION EXPRESSING FULL SUPPORT OF ANTI -COMMUNIST
POSITION PRESENTED BY ERNESTO DE LA FE IN THE "PRIMERA
DEMOCRACIA CONTINENTAL COMBATIENTE CONFERENCE", HELD IN
SAN SALVADOR.
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Mayor Ferre: I have a request here from Ernesto de la Fe
for the "Primera Democracia Continental Combatiente". This
is a request that the City of Miami send moral support on
the position. So I move that the City of Miami go in full
support of the anti -communist position presented by Ernesto
de la Fe in the conference that is being held in full
support of the United States' position in Latin America and
that a proper document be sent to San Salvador where this
meeting is being held. I so move.
The following resolution was introduced by Mayor Ferre,
who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 85-524
A RESOLUTION EXPRESSING FULL SUPPORT OF THE
ANTI -COMMUNIST POSITION PRESENTED BY ERNESTO
de la FE IN THE PRIMERA DEMOCRACIA
CONTINENTAL COMBATIENTE CONFERENCE;
EXPRESSING FULL SUPPORT OF THE UNITED STATES
OF AMERICA'S POSITION IN LATIN AMERICA;
FURTHER DIRECTING THE CITY CLERK TO FORWARD
A COPY OF THIS RESOLUTION BE SENT TO SAID
CONFERENCE NOW IN SESSION IN SAN SALVADOR.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here
and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Perez, the
resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
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ABSENT: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
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74. BRIEF COMMENT: COMMISSIONER PEREZ CONVEYS 70
ADMINISTRATION COMPLAINTS RECEIVED FROM CITY RESIDENTS
RE. HALF BALLS WHICH ARE PLACED ON LAWNS TO AVOID
IMPROPER PARKING. DEFERRED*
Mr. Perez: Mr. Mayor, I have received in the last few weeks
a lot of calls from people who have to come in before the
Code Enforcement Board. they have a lot of complaints about
the balls that they place in front of the house. In
accordance with regulation 2020.22... Is Sergio Rodriguez
around here?
Mr. Pereira: Yes, Sergio is here.
Mayor Ferre: This is no time for pocket items, it is late
in the night, we'll deal with that at the next meeting.
Mr. Pereira: If you can give me the information I'll be
glad to look into it.
75. BRIEF COMMENT: REGARDING NECESSARY ADVERTISING OF TWO
VACANCIES PRESENTLY EXISTING IN THE CIVIL SERVICE BOARD.
Mayor Ferre: By the way, the Civil Service Board is coming
up, we're going to have two vacancies and I think even
though we don't have to we ought to advertise that there are
two Civil Service Board vacancies. Would you do that,
advertise so that everybody has an equal opportunity?
Mr. Pereira: Yes, we will.
THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS TO COME BEFORE THE CITY
COMMISSION, THE MEETING WAS ADJOURNED AT 10:02 P.M.
Maurice A. Ferre
M A Y 0 R
ATTEST:
Ralph G. Ongie
CITY CLERK
Natty Hirai
ASSISTANT CITY CLERK
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ITM No DOCLOVIT IMWIFICATION
RECOMMEND TO APPROVE FINDINGS OF SURVEY
OF POTENTIAL CO -TENANTS OF PROPOSED MIAMI
INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS CENTER.
AUTHORIZE CITY ATTORNEY TO FILE A LAWSUIT
AGAINST SANTA MONICA, CALIFORNIA, POLICE
CHIEF, ETC. REGARDING SENDING OF CRIMINAL
TO MIAMI REQUESTING FEDERAL LEGISLATION,
INJUCTION ACTION, ETC...
EXPRESS FULL SUPPORT OF PRESIDENT REAGAN
IN REGARD TO THE TRADE EMBARGO RECENTLY
IMPOSED AGAINST NICARAGUA.
PROCLAIM/DECLARE WEEK OF JUNE 30 TO JULY
4, AS "THE FAITH" WEEK IN THE CITY OF MIAMI.
WAIVE FEE FOR MARINE STADIUM.
ALLOCATE $50,000 TO THEODORE ROOSEVELT
GIBSON MEMORIAL FUND UNITY AND COMMUNICATIONS
CENTER (JUNE 1, 1985 - MAY 31, 1986) ETC...
AUTHORIZE COCONUT GROVE ARTISTS GROUP TO
HOLD SUMMER SEASON ART SHOW SERIES ON COM-
MODORE PLAZA ( THREE DATES TO BE SELECTED:
MAY, JULY AND AUGUST 1985).
ACCEPT BID AND NEGOTIATE LEASE OF CENTRUST
REALTY COMPANY LEASE GROUND FLOOR RETAIL
SPACE IN MIAMI CONVENTION CENTER PARKING
GARAGE.
APPOINTEE: ANA MARIA CARNESOLTAS AND BARBARA
ANN IBARRA TO THE CITY OF MIAMI COMMISSION
ON THE STATUS OF WOMEN; PROVIDE FOR STAFF
PERSON, OFFICE SUPPLIES, BUDGET, ETC...
ACCEPT RECOMMENDATION FOR THE SELECTION
OF CAN-AMERICAN REALTY CORPORATION AS DEVE-
LOPER OF PARCEL 37 WITHIN SOUTHEAST OVERTOWN/
PARK WEST REDEVELOPMENT PROJECT PHASE I;
ETC....
iNETiNli DATN
MAY 9, 1985.
SSION
'TON AND
85-642
85-466
85-470
85-471
85-473
85-474
85-475
85-476
85-478
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ALOCATE $45,000 TO COVER NECESSARY EXPENSES 85-479
INCURRED BY THE MIAMI POLICE OVERTOWN ATHLET-
IC PROGRAM.
ACCEPT COMPLETE WORK OF JOE REINERTSON 85-480
EQUIPMENT CO. ($789,774.79) FOR LYNWOOD
SANITARY SEWER IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT - SR-
5487 C AND S.
CONFIRM ASSESSMENT ROLL FOR CONSTRUCTION 85-481
OF KOUBEK SANITARY SEWER IMPROVEMENT IN
K. S. S. I. DISTRICT SR-5477-S (SIDELINE
SEWER).
CONFIRM ASSESSMENT ROLL FOR CONSTRUCTION 85-482
OF KOUBEK SANITARY SEWER IMPROVEMENT IN
KOUBEK SANITARY SEWER IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT
SR-5477-S.
ALLOCATE $2,000 IN SUPPORT OF THE TRINIDAD 85-483
AND TOBAGO ORGANIZERS FOR A CARIBBEAN CUL-
TURAL PROGRAM TO BE HELD AT GUSMAN CULTURAL
CENTER (MAY 24, 1985).
ALLOCATE $12,000 IN SUPPORT OF THE WEEKEND 85-484
CONFERENCE ON' CARICOM SPONSORED BY SOUTH
FLORIDA BUSINESS LEAGUE HELD ON MAY 24 - 25,
1985.
ALLOCATE $7,000 IN SUPPORT OF THE ASSOCIA- 85-485
TION OF LATIN AMERICAN ART AND CULTURE,
INC. TO COVER THE COCONUT GROVE EXHIBITION
CENTER RENT FOR A THREE-DAY CHILDREN'S
FESTIVAL (MAY 24 - 26, 1985).
AMEND CONTRACT AGREEMENT WITH SMALL BUSINESS 85-486
OPPORTUNITY CENTER, INC. FROM $37,750.
TO $46,000 CONTINUING A NIGHBORHOOD ECONO-
MIC DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM IN LITTLE HAVANA
COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.
ALLOCATE $7,270 TO SEND DISADVANTAGED YOUTH 85-487
TO SUMMER CAMP IN LAKE PLACID, FLORIDA
(JUNE 23 - AUGUST 24, 1985).
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ESTABLISH TEMPORARY PEDESTRIAN MALL BY
CLOSING CERTAIN STREET IN COCONUT GROVE
AREA THROUGH TRAFFIC DURING THE PARADE
HELD ON JUNE 30, 1985.
ACCEPT COMPLETED WORK OF GREEN'S POOL SERVI-
CE ($21,811.78) FOR EDISON POOL.
ALLOCATE $100,000 IN LOTH YEAR COMMUNITY
DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT FUNDS TO IMPLEMENT
LATIN QUARTER COMPREHENSIVE FACADE TREATMENT
CENTER.
AUTHORIZE THE ISSUANCE OF WASTE COLLECTION
LICENSE, PERMIT WILLIAM JOHNSON D/B/A WORLD
SANITATION, TO COMMENCE DOING BUSINESS,
ETC.....
AUTHORIZE THE PURCHASE OF B-20 MICRO COMPU-
TERS, PRINTERS, AND ASSOCIATED PERIPHERAL
EQUIPMENT FROM BURROUGHS CORPORATION UNDER
AN EXISTING STATE OF FLORIDA CONTRACT (;280,003)
ETC......
AUTHORIZE TO ACCEPT EIGHT (8) DEEDS OF
DEDICATION FOR HIGHWAY PURPOSES. APPROVE
THE RECORD OF SAID DEEDS IN DADE COUNTY
PUBLIC RECORDS.
AUTHORIZE THE EXECUTION/DELIVERY OF CITY
OF MIAMI FLORIDA HOUSING BONDS (1984)
($100.000 TO REPLACE LOST BONDS).
AMEND RESOLUTION 85-272 ADOPTED MARCH 21,
1985, WHICH ALLOCATE $10,000 FOR A FEE
WAIVER FOR THE USE OF THE MIAMI CONVENTION
CENTER ON MARCH 22-23, 1985, IN SUPPORT
OF THE FIRST ANNUAL PROFESSIONAL FOOTBALL
PLAYERS CHARITY BASKETBALL TOURNAMENT;
ETC....
AMEND RESOLUTION 85-280 ADOPTED MARCH 21,
1985, WHICH ALLOCATE $15,000 TO THE SOUTH
FLORIDA ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY DEVELOPMENT
COUNCIL, INC. TO PROVIDE TRAINING FOR JOBS
IN THE CITY OF MIAMI.
85-492
85-493
85-494
85-495
85-496
85-497
85-499
85-500
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ACCEPT BID OF HECTOR TURF, INC. FOR FUR- 85-501
NISHING ONE GREENS AERATOR FOR DEPARTMENT
OF PARKS AND RECREATION ($6,311.50).
ALLOCATE $81,846 TO THE DEPARTMENT OF 85-502
PARKS AND RECREATION FOR VIRGINIA BEACH
FAMILY SPLASHDOWN DISCO '85 SERIES.
AUTHORIZE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE AN AGREE- 85-503
MENT IN THE ATTACHED FORM WITH CRAMER,
HABER AND LUKIS, P.C. (LEGISLATIVE CONSUL-
TANT SERVICES) CONCERNING FEDERAL LEGISLA-
TION. ALLOCATE $45,000 FOR SUCH SERVICES.
AUTHORIZE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO AN 85-505
AGREEMENT WITH TOUCHE ROSS & CO. (C.P.A.)
TO EVALUATE PROPOSALS FOR UNIFIED DEVELOP-
MENT PROJECT WATSON ISLAND.
AUTHORIZE CITY MANAGER rO EXECUT3 A CON- 85-506
TRACT WITH E. P. IACONIS ($10,000) TO
ASSIST IN PREPARATION OF DOCUMENTS DISPOSI-
TION AGREEMENTS WITH SELECTED DEVELOPERS
FOR SOUTHEAST OVERTOWN PARK WEST PROJECT
PHASE I.
ACCEPT A PROPOSAL: SLACK, SLACK, & ROE, 85-507
INC., MAI APPRAISERS TO APPRAISE FAIR
MARKET VALUE BLOCKS 2 & 4, DUPONT PLAZA.
AUTHORIZE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER IN A CON- 85-508
TRACT WITH FINANCIAL SYSTEMS ASSOCIATES
INC. TO PROVIDE DESIGN SPECIFICATIONS
TO IMPROVE CITY'S FINANCIAL ACCOUNTING
SYSTEM ($49,995).
ALLOCATE $25,950 TO THE FOURTH ANNUAL 85-509
CITY OF MIAMI YOUTH BASEBALL WORLD SERIES.
AUTHORIZE CITY MANAGER TO ADVERTISE SALE 85-510
OF SURPLUS FILL MATERIAL ON VIRGINIA KEY;
ETC....
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AUTHORIZE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE AN AMEND- 85-511
MENT rO AGREEMENT WITH MANUEL G. VERA
AND ASSOCIATES, INC. TO ENCREASE THE TOTAL
COMPENSATION FOR SURVEYING SERVICES IN
CONJUNCTION WITH CITY CONTRACTED CONSTRUC-
TION PROJECT.
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AUTHORIZE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE AND AMEND-
MENT TO AGREEMENT WITH CAMPANILE AND ASSO-
CIATES, INC. TO ENCREASE THE TOTAL COMPEN-
SATION FOR SURVEYING SERVICES IN CONJUNC-
TION WITH CITY CONTRACTED CONSTRUCTION
PROJECT.
ALLOCATE $15.000 TO FLORIDA HOUSING COOP-
ERATIVE, INC. FOR "FLORIDA COOPERATIVE HOUS-
ING FORUM" (JULY 11-12, 1985).
ACCEPT BID: A. CLEANING ASSOCIATION FOR
CUSTODIAL SERVICES AT MANUEL ARTIME COMMU-
NITY CENTER ONE YEAR RENEWABLE ($30,193.44).
ACCEPT BID: REAGAN EQUIPMENT CO. TO FUR-
NISH/INSTALL AN EMERGENCY GENERATOR SET
TO THE DEPARTMENT OF BUILDING/VEHICLE/MAIN-
TENANCE ($22,012.).
ACCEPT BID HEWLETT PACKARD CO.
NISH A MICROWAVE FRECUENCY COUNTER,
($46,345.)
TO FUR -
ETC...
ACCEPT BID: INFOTRON SYSTEM CORP. TO FUR-
NISH THREE (3) COMMUNICATION NETWORK CON-
ZENTRATORS TO THE DEPARTMENT OF BUILDING/
VEHICLE/MAINTENANCE ($140,333.)
DIRECT CITY MANAGER TO PROCEED WITH THE
:ONSTRUCTION AND IMPLEMENTATION OF BAY -
FRONT REDEVELOPMENT PROJECT, ETC...
4LLOCATE $15,500 IN SUPPORT OF THE MIAMI-
DADE TRADE AND TOURIST COMMISSION TO ALLOW
PHEM TO OPERATE ITS PROGRAM OF ACTIVITIES;
ETC....
�LAIM SETTLEMENT: JOHN PELL ELLIS $50,000.
RELAX LIMITATIONS ON THE DISPLAY OF FIRE-
aORKS TO ALLOW PYROTECHNIC DISPLAYS IN
rHE MIAMI MARINE STADIUM UNTIL 12:00 MID-
VIGHT ON MAY 16, 1985.
3XPRESS FULL SUPPORT OF ANTI -COMMUNIST
?OSITION PRESENTED BY ERNESTO DE LA FE
[N THE "PRIMERA DEMOCRACIA CONTINENTAL
70MBATIENTE CONFERENCE" HELD IN SAN SALVADOR.
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85-512
85-513
85-514
85-516
85-517
85-518
85-519
85-521
85-522
85-523
85-524
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