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ORDINANCE NO,""* � +�`� � �► .,
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE TEXT OF ZONING
ORDINANCE NO. 9500, THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF
THE CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA, BY AMENDING
SECTION 2026 ENTITLED "SIGNS, SPECIFIC
LIMITATIONS, AND REQUIREMENTS" TO CLARIFY
OUTDOOR ADVERTISING SIGN HEIGHT, ESTABLISH
METHODS OF SIGN CONSTRUCTION, PROHIBIT
FLASHING LIGHTS AND MOVING PARTS, REQUIRE ALL
SIGNS TO BE OF UNtPOD CONSTRUCTION WITH NO
MORE THAN TWO SIGN FACES, INTRODUCE A SIGN
SPACING REQUIREMENT ALONG LIMITED ACCESS
HIGHWAYS AND EXPRESSWAYS, ALLOW OUTDOOR
ADVERTISING SIGNS TO BE VIEWED FROM AND
LOCATED WITHIN 600 FEET OF LIMITED ACCESS
HIGHWAYS AND EXPRESSWAYS; AND CLARIFYING
APPLICABLE SIGN AREA OF OUTDOOR ADVERTISING
SIGNS BY: PROVIDING APPROPRIATE REVIEW
STANDARDS, PROCEDURES AND CONDITIONS, AND
ESTABLISHING SPACING REQUIREMENTS FOR OUTDOOR
ADVERTISING SIGNS ALONG FEDERAL -AID PRIMARY
HIGHWAY SYSTEMS; FURTHER, AMENDING PAGE 5 OF
THE OFFICIAL SCHEDULE OF DISTRICT REGULA-
TIONS, CG GENERAL COMMERCIAL ZONING
DISTRICTS, BY REQUIRING COMPLIANCE WITH
STANDARDS AND REVIEW PROCEDURE OF SPECIAL
EXCEPTIONS, WITH CITY COMMISSION APPROVAL,
FOR CERTAIN OUTDOOR ADVERTISING SIGNS;
CONTAINING A REPEALER PROVISION AND A
SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.
WHEREAS, the Miami Planning Advisory Board, at its meeting
of April 3, 1985, Item No. 1, following an advertised hearing at
which the amendments as hereinafter set forth were evaluated,
adopted Resolution No. PAB 34-85 by a vote of 6 to 3
RECOMMENDING DENIAL of the amendments to Section 2026.15.2 and
the Official Schedule of District Regulations, CG-1, Uses
Permitted Generally, paragraph 16 and Permissible Only by Special
Permit, paragraph 3, which recommended allowing signs to be
viewed from and located within 600 ft. of limited access
highways, including expressways, and of related spacing, height,
number of faces, and devices proposed for prohibition for the
aforementioned signs; adopted Resolutions PAB 32-85 by a vote of
8 to 0 (1 member absent) RECOMMENDING APPROVAL of amendments to
Section 2026,15.1; PAB 33-85 by a vote of 8 to 1 RECOMMENDING
APPROVAL of amendments to Section 2026.15.31 PAO 35-85 by a vote
of 7 to 2 RECOMMENDING APPROVAL of amendments to the official
schedule of District Regulations, Limitation on Signs, CG,
paragraph 5i and PAH 36-85 by a vote of 8 to 1 RECOMMENDING
APPROVAL of amendments to the Official Schedule of District
Regulationsi Limitations on Suns, CG, paragraph 6, which
clarified surface area of outdoor advertising signs, recommended
spacing of outdoor advertising signs on Federal -Aid Primary
Highways, and clarified the number of surfaces and height for
outdoor advertising signs; and
WHERSASi the City Commission, after careful consideration of
this matter, deems it advisable and in the best interest of the
general welfare of the City of Miami and its inhabitants to grant
these amendments, hereinafter set forth;
,NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT ORDAINED BY THE COMMISSION OF THE CITY
OF MIAMI, FLORIDA:
Section 1. The text of Ordinance No. 9500, as amended,
the Zoning Ordinance of the City of Miami, Florida, is hereby
amended in the following particularscl
"Article 20.
Section 2026.
2026.15.
GENERAL AND SUPPLEMENTARY REGULATIONS
n
SIGNS, SPECIFIC LIMITATIONS AND REQUIRE-
MENTS.
Outdoor Advertising Signs.
Signs used in the conduct of the outdoor adver-
tising business shall be regulated and restricted as
follows in districts in which they are permitted.
2026.15.1. Limitations on Sign Area, Including
Embellishments; Limitations on Projec-
tions of Embellishments.
Tetal-gar€aee The area of an outdoor advertising sign
shall not exceedeven hundred fifty (750) square feet,
for each surface, including embellishments, if any
(witri sign and embellishment area measured as provided
at Section 2025.1.3, Area of Signs).
2026.15.2. Limitations on Location, Or+entat4enr
Spacing, Height, Type and Embellish-
ments ot outdoor Advertising Signs n'
Relation to Limited Access Highways and
Expressways.
Words and/or f igures stric%en through shall be deleted.
Underscored wards and/or fi.qures shall be added, The remaining
provisions are now in effect and rer%in unchanged. Asteris%s
indicate omitted and unchaAged material.
6
Ne Outdoor advertising sighs ahall ma be
eredtedr constructed, altered, maintained or reated
within six hundred (600) feet of the tight -of -way lines
of any limited access highway, including expressways`
as established by the State of Florida or any of its
political subdivisions, eelesa-�seels#gn=#s=�paale
to or at as eagle of hot greeter then thirty fog}
degeeea=a�����rl�e=�eeh�erl#he-e�-�ahy�s�ek����+�te�--assess
high way-and-fseed-away-€�e:n�gc�el�=�h�gl�wa�*;.���here �sae1
s�gt�aKa�e�w�t1�#i��e#x=�ist�d�ed� f 6g9-}��eet�e€�me�e=tl�at�
sae-��m��ed�aeeessyl���l��vay�-tl�e-���+��at�e�ia�aet�te�tl�
above -sh&IIj apply -with -re epeet- to -al
�==suer-�t�gl�ways:
with City Commission App oval after following the
_.
standards an _7eview procedures for speo11`al exceptions
an s`u je t to the tollowino conditions:
1. An outdoor advert is�ing_ _sign structure approved
pursuant to this ordinance shall be _space a
minimum of teen hundred (1500) feet from
anot er suc outdoor advertising sign structure or
an_ appr,6ve8 location tor another such out oor
advertise g structure on the same side of a
limited access highway, inclu ing expressways.
2. The height of the structure shall not exceed a
height of fifty (50) feet measured from the crown
of the main -traveled road and in no instance
exceed a maxi_mu_m height of sixty- ive (65 set
measured from the crown o the nearest adjacent or
arteria street.
3. The sign structure shall be of unipod construction
with only two (2 ) sign faces back to back and
parallel to each other.
4. No flashing, blinking or mechanical devices shall
e utilized as part of the out oor advertising
sign.
5. Sign area, embellishments and projections shall be
as set fortH in section 2026.15.1.
6. Within thirty (30) days of the effective date of
t is Ordinance, owners of existing sign structures
or sign structure permits for any signs located or
to be located within six hundre3 (600) feet of the
right-of-way lines of any limited access highway,
including expressways, shall have the right to
seek approval, in accordance with t e procedures
set out above, for a new outdoor sign structure or
altered sign structure permitte3 un er t is
Ordinance, at said location, in the order that the
signs or ocations were grants a permit. al
ap rova hearings shall be held in advance of any
other sign structure a P ieation(s)• A 1 other
applicants shall e cons erect on eit er a I st
come, first serve his, or Iin the case of
concurrent applications lottery con ucte_ y
t e Department designatedy e City Manager.
In authorizing a general advertising sign
tructure under these rov s ons as a special +exception
he'FollowiF47actors shall a consi ere
a, the im act on any vista or views that may be
b. the relationship with other roadwa signs
anc uS ve Q irectiona _s Anss
d. the irfipact on ariy notable a
].at�dmark
d . the _ .mpgct upon s driver safety in,
s.k is to be located- and
e.
iT
20.26,15,3. Limitations on Spading __o.f outdoor
Ac7�rertising SYgns in Rev a.t.lon._ to
FederaliAid Primary xig way__Sys ems.
Outdoor advertising signs shall be spaced_ a
minimum of one t ousand (1000) feet from anot er„signs
_ _.
or an approved ovation, on the same side of a federal=
aid primary nignwavb
* * * it
Section 2. Page 5 of the Official Schedule of District
Regulations made a part of said Ordinance 9500 by reference and
description in Section 320, Entitled "Schedule of District
Regulations for Districts Other than Special Districts; Adop-
tion," of Article 3 Entitled "Official Zoning Atlas; Official
Schedule of District Regulations," is hereby amended in the
following particulars:
"USES AND STRUCTURES
PRINCIPAL USES AND STRUCTURES
CG-1. GENERAL COMMERCIAL
Permitted Generally
16. offsite signs, including outdoor advertising signs
(subject to the provisions of Section 2026
b-iffi-Itat-iens en 6-igns and except as indicated
under Permissible Only by Specia Permit).
PERMISSIBLE ONLY BY SPECIAL PERMIT
3. Offsite signs, including outdoor advertising
signs, wit in goo feet along limit-e7 access
hi hwa s, inc a ing ex resswa s, shall be
ermj$S a on:_ City Commission approval a ter
following the standards and review procedures for
special ex-ceptidns an su 3ect to the provisions
LIMITATIONS ON SIGNS
' 1A i7 9
coo O NERAL COMM ACiAb (GENERALLY)
5. Gtound or freestanding signs, onsite, shall be
l irttited to one. (1) sign and forty( 40 ) square
feet of signface) for each
business] or for each fifty (50) feet of street
ftontage, whichever shalld the largest number
of area. Permitted sign area may be used in less
than the maximum permitted number of such signs,
but no sign shall exceed two hundred ( ZOO ) square
feet in area for each face. Maximum height
limitation shall be twenty._(20.)feet nc u ing
em e.11ishments,_,measured from the crown o the
nearest a �acent loca or arteria street, !19t
inclu in unite access i ways or expressways_,
provided _owever, that t e_Znn ng Administrator at
his discretion ma increase the measurement of t e
crown y up to t ive (5) Feet to accommodate
unusual or un u atin site conditions. ..
6. Ground or freestanding signs, offsite, shall be
limited to two (2) for any lot, whether or not
occupied by a building. Tetal-stir€eee The area
shall not exceed 750 sq.ft. eemelat#vely- or all
each surfaces, including embellishments. The
total height shall not exceed thirty (30) feet,
except as set torth in Section 5.2, in-
-Eluding_eMbellishmentst measured tr&F t e crown of
the nearest adjacent local or arterial street, not
including limited access Highways or expressways,
prove e, however, that the Zoning A minis-
trator, at his discretion, may increase the
measurement of the crown by up to tive (5) feet to
accommodate unusual or undulating site con-
* * *n
Section 3. All ordinances, Code Sections, or parts
thereof in conflict herewith are hereby repealed insofar as they
are in conflict.
Section 4. Should any part or provision of this
Ordinance be declared by a court of competent jurisdiction to be
invalid, the same shall not affect the validity of the ordinance
as a whole.
PASSED AND ADOPTED ON FIRST READING BY TITLE ONLY this 18th
day of April , 1985.
PASSED AND ADOPTED ON SECOND READING BY TITLE ONLY this
CI
23rdday of May , 1985.
CLERK
17?1- © Maurice A. Ferre
5 ^u
Ca. GENERAL COMMERCIAL (O NERALLY)
El
5. ground or freestanding signs, onsite, shall be
limited to one, (1 ) sign and fort ( 40 ) square
feet of sign��: area (for each face) tot each
business, or for each fifty (50) feet of street
frontage, whichever sha1'``y ;ld the largest number
of area. permitted sign area may be used in less
than the maximum permitted number of such signs,
but no sign shall exceed two hundred (200) square
feet in area for each face. Maximum height
limitation shal1 be twenty (20_) feet nc1 u d ing
embellishments, measured from the crown of the
nearest a � a c e n t oca or arterial street, not
xnclu zng j iMit access ig ways or expressways,,
provided howeverp t at the Zoning Administrator at
his discretion may�incre_as_e_the measurement of the
crown by up to wive ( 5 ) feet 4 to accommodate
unusua or un u sting site con itions.
6. Ground or freestanding signs, offsite, shall be
limited to two (2) for any lot, whether or not
occupied by a building. Tetal-sue€aee The area
shall not exceed 750 sq. ft. eefflulat#vely-Moor all
each surfaces, including embellishments. The
total height shall. not exceed thirty (30) feet,
excc t�as set forth i_n Section 2 5.2, in-
cludinc embeilishments, measured from the crown of
the nearest adjacent local or arterial street, not
including limited access highways or expressways,
prove e, however, t at the Zoning A minis-
trator, at his discretion, max increase the
measurement of the crown by_up to five (5) feet to
accommodate unusual or undulating site con-
ditions.
Section 3. All ordinances, Code Sections, or parts
thereof in conflict herewith are hereby repealed insofar as they
are in conflict.
Section 4. Should any part or provision of this
Ordinance be declared by a court of competent jurisdiction to be
invalid, the same shall not affect the validity of the ordinance
as a whole.
PASSED AND ADOPTED ON FIRST READING BY TITLE ONLY this 18th
day of April , 1985.
PASSED AND ADOPTED ON SECOND READING BY TITLE ONLY this
23rdday of May , 1985,
6 -� j Maurice A, Terre
NPURICE A. ME RE,
CITY CLERK
PREPARED AND APPROM t3Y
2
MAXW
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St8TANT CtTy ATTOANgY
,J2M/WVC/ab/406
1
+ LUCIR A6 DOMRTY
CITY ATTOMY
►, of the City of Ntiami, Florida,
hercliy certify that ou tht! .,1.7. -day
A. i fuil, true wid cUrrxt c I v of 0%; H."(1
att'., fore"o !11' + l"liUulice Was pfistcd at tI:C S.)Iltll i),)t)r
t_If the County Court ift)usc at t1w 1)1.!c,: provided
tc)t nwie..s ano lAu1).tct11imis by attacitineg said copy to
the therdur,
WITNLSS my ►land and the official seal of said
City this,p ....,day �It'„ A. U. 19..IV4,.
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City, Clerk
PREPAM ANb APPROVSb Sy
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81STANT CITY ATTOF mey
JBM/WPC/ab/405
APPROVED, A5 TO V b M ANb COARECTtON t
LUC I A i DUL MICRTY
CITY A'T'T0MY
1, f the City of ;Miami, Florida,
hereby certify that on the.1..7. .day ')f..
A. 1). W.IZ6... a NO, true and correc..t c . y of thv .+h„
k).'e"(1int! old-hi1{ItCe was jltl (Cll at the Smith 'Door
tlr: Da,.lt� C twnty Court }blase at tlttr pl,tc:: provided
liv nwic..,� and ;,uh-is:oions by atta-6iing Said ek)py to
ti)c pkicr therelor.
WlYNL:SS my hand and the official seal of said
City lhis.4 .....�tuy Of- „t1. D. 19;.�,yj,,
City, Clerk
I
C►tY OP MIAM1. IrWA►DA
INT"3-OFFICC MEMORANDUM
`- Sergio Pereira DATE- April 5, 1985 VILE.
Ci Manager
SUVJCCT: ORDINANCE - TEXT AMENDMENT
ART 20, SECTION 2026 SIGNS
Directory "EFCR�N`ES` COMMISSION AGENDA - APRIL 18, 198`
Planning and Zoning Boards ENCLOSURES: PLANNING AND ZONING ITEMS
Administration Department
It is recommended by the Planning
Advisory Board that amendments to
the text of Zoning Ordinance 00,
as amended, by amending Section
2026 Signs, Specif..ic Limitations
and Requirements of Article 20 and
page 5 of the Official Schedule of
District Regulations pertaining to
CG General Commercial zoning
district be adopted as recommended
by the Planning Department.
The Planning Advisory Board, at its meeting of April 3, 1985, item 1,
following an advertised hearing, adopted Resolution PAB 34-85 by a 6 to 3
vote, recommending denial of the amendments to Section 2026.15.2 and the
Official Schedule of District Regulations, CG-1, Uses Permitted Generally,
paragraph 16 and Permissible Only by Special Permit, paragraph 3, which
recommended allowing signs to be viewed from and located within 600 ft. of
limited access highways, including expressways, and of related spacing,
height, number of faces, and devices proposed for prohibition for the
aforementioned signs; adopted Resolutions PAB 32-85 by an 8 to 0 vote, 1 "
member absent, recommending approval of amendments to Section 2026.15.1; PAB
33-85 by an 8 to 1 vote,-recommending=approval of amendments to Section
2026.15.3; PAB 35-85 by a 7 to 2.vote, recommending approval of amendments to
the Official Schedule of. District Regulations, Limitations on Signs, CG,
paragraph 5, and PAB 36-85 by an 8 to 1 vote, recommending approval of
amendments to the Official Schedule of District Regulations, Limitations on
Signs, CG, paragraph 6, which recommended clarifying area of outdoor
advertising signs, recommended spacing of outdoor advertising signs on
Federal -Aid Primary Highways, and recommended clarifying the number of
surfaces and heights of outdoor advertising signs,
Sergio Pereira Page 2 April 51 t089
Seven opponents present at the meeting, three proponents present at the
meeti no,
Backup information is included for your review.
An ORDINANCE to provide for the above has been prepared by the City Attorney's
Off -ice and submitted for consideration of the City Commission.
AEPL:JWM:111
cc: Law Department
NOTE: Planning Department recommends:
DENIAL of specific amendments allowing
Mertsing signs to be viewed from
and located within, 600 ft. of the
right-of-way line of any limited
access highway (including express-
ways), including the related spacing,
height, number of faces, and devised
proposed for prohibition for
aforementioned signs.
APPROVAL of general clarifications
pertaining to outdoor advertising
signs including: area of outdoor
advertising signs along Federal -Aid
Primary Highways and clarifying the
number of surfaces and height of
outdoor advertising signs.
4b
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PLANNINO FACT SNt�T
APPLICANT city of " ii ami Planning oeparthent:
March 1p" 1985
PETITION 1, per referral of the City Cormiission by Motions
85=181, 85-182, 85-185 and 88-184 February 28,
15854 for the purpose of considering text
amendmOhts to Zoning Ordinance 9500 by amt?nMi nq
Section 2026 Signs, Specific Limitations and
Requirements of Article 20, Oeneral and
Supplementary Regulations to clarify outdoor
advertising sign height, establish methods of
sign construction including the prohibition of
flashing lights and moving parts and requiring
all signs to be of a unipod construction and no
more than two sign faces, introduce a sign
spacing requirement along limited access
highways, including expressways, allowing
outdoor advertising signs to be viewed from and
allowed within 600' of limited access highways,
including expressways, clarify applicable sign
area of outdoor advertising signs, by providing
appropriate review standards and conditions, and
by establishing spacing requirements for outdoor
advertising signs along Federal -Aid Primary
Highway Systems; further amending sheet 5 of the
Official Schedule of District Regulations ,made a
part of said Ordinance 9500 by reference and
description in Section 320 thereof, pertaining
to CG General Com. ercial zoning districts,
requiring Special Exception with City Commission
approval for certain outdoor advertising signs;
and containing a repealer provision and a
severability clause.
REQUEST To revise sign limitations of Zoning Ordinance
9500; as amended.
BACKGROUND Attempts to amend Zoning Ordinance 9500 were
initiated approximately one year ago. At the
April 4, 1984, meeting of the Planning A visory
Board, a a.nning,Depar men recommendeda
eig t limit that had been inadvertently omitted
in the printing of the new ordinance. The
Planning Advisory Board voted 3-3 for the height
limitation (with two members absent), thereby
constituting a denial of the motion. A
recommendation of an amendment to the Planning
Department recommendation,. which specified a
limit of "30 feet in height from the grade of
PAB 4/3/35 _
Item #1
Page 1
Aft
ilk
the road''to which the sigh faces" also failed
3=3 (2 mwibers absent), cbnstituting a denial of
the Mti on.
1
On April 271 in 4, the City Commission, on first
rea 1ng, continued a item w1_ re erral to the
Planning visory - oar or u_n per
consi era ion.
Oh Jung 5, 1984, the item was withdrawn from the
nn ainj visory oar agPn.a or lack of
proper advertisement.
At the June 20
i n0A MA:;*4 V%A A0 4•1ix 65 sctiw; w�a
recoriimen a approval of draft legislation which
limited sign height to 30 feet, introduced a
sign spacing formula in the CG districts and
recommended denial of any change in the angle of
billboards for expressways. At that meeting,
the Planning Advisory Board recommended (as per
PAB Resolution 54-84) a 50' height limit and a
spacing of 1500' between billboards. The
Planning Advisory Board also asked the
Commission for clarification of considerations
regarding facing, angle, and distance from
expressway.
On June 28, 1984, the City Commission continued
e item on i rs reading with referral to the'
anning Advisory Board for turter
consideration to ins u e acing, angle, and
distance of billboards from expressways.
At the July 18, 1984, meeting of the Planning
visory board, the Planning D e p a r men
recommended a general outdoor advertising
structures (bi'l l boards) not be permitted within
600 feet of the expressway except for billboards
facing away from the expressway, and that the
height of signs be limited to 30 feet above the
crown of the road as defined therein. The
Planning Department also recormended
clarification of sign area and that billboard
spacing be considered only in the event that
billboards are permitted along expressways. The
Planning Advisory Board adopted Resolution PAB
75-84 which would allow signs to face
expressways, Resolution PAB. 76-94 which would
permit the erection of signs within 600 feet of
PAB 4/3/85
Item .-1
Page 2
9
a
any 1 1 Hi tyd access hi ghway (including
expre>sways, but excluding the Oubl i c ri ght�3f
way), Resolution PAEI 17=84 which would perMit a
mi nimurr," 1, 500 fcet spacing between si pt on the
same side Of an interstate highway and 1000 fleet
between signs on the same side of the highway of
the federal aid primary highway, and P?esolution
pA0 78-84 which would clarify billboard height
to be 50 feet from the crown of the t"ain
traveled road with a maximum height of 55 feet
from the crown of the dearest ad3acent locAl or
arterial street and clarify the sign area as one
sign face,
At the duly 31, 19841 City Commission meeting,
e'item, was continued on first reading.'
At the September 20, 1984, meeting, the City
ommission continued e item on first reading.
At the October 25; 1984, meeting, the City
.......... ....
ommission Eontinuea Ene item, on first reading.
At the November 15, 1984, meeting, the City
Commission passed th e item on firit reading wi
referral acc to the Planning Advisory oar o`r
further comments.
At its meeting of January 2, 1585, the Planning
Advisory Uoard's motion to recommena approval or
eir previous mot -ions failed by a vote of a to
therefore Eonstituting a recommendation of
denial.
At the January 24, 1985, meeting, the City
om;mission continued action on -the above.
At the February 28, 1985, meeting, the
Commission requested the Planning Department to
amend the ordinance to prohibit flashing lights
or moving parts and to limit construction o
i oars to no more than two faces (M-85-181).
The Commission also instructed e Planning
Department (per Motion M-85-182) to .amend the
ordinance to indicate that all future
applications for billboard construction permits
shall require a special exception with City
onni ssi on approval. Furt iermore, tne
ommission a so instructed the Planning
Department to amend the ordinance to require all
PAa 4/3/85
Item #1
Page 3
bi 11 bqa'r&. c(smStrutti on to be of A
Zons*E-r I Me L; 1 ty (. ornmi s s i on
referyen d the item back to the Planning
Advisor, rV "c5n6F, '��FEMM
rlade durihq the Commission meeting
ANALYSIS With e6tpeft to billboard faqi,01, angle and
distance from _expressways an cl limitep access
"I - -
,W'ay ; 7 1 n e Planning Departmen Eronno
__'
recommend any change. Section 2026.15.2
expressly prohibits billboards. within 600,
expressway right-of-way except for, signs angled
(300) in such a manner to as not to be viewed
from the expressway. This exception is to allow
signs within 600' that -are not intended to face
expressways, but which could face intersecting
streets. Therefore the angle of the sion is of
no import with allowingqhs to face the
expressway and need not be changed if ,igns are
not going to be allowed to face expressways.
The prohibition of billboards a*10hg the
expressway is to eliminate visual intriisions to
residents, tourists and visitors traveling along
esi
the expressway system in the City of Miami. The
lack of aesthetics associated with this type of
development is not in keeping with the views and
vistas associated with our area, and the
amenities enjoyed by all who live, work and play
in our subtropical community. Billbcar6 most
definitely vie for the traveler's attention
which promotes a potential hazard with respect
to traffic accidents on the already congested
expressway system.
Spacing of billboards along expressways, if
permiTfed has limited merit but should not be
thought of as an alternate solution to the
problem of billboards along expressweys as
indicated above. Spacing limits the number of
signs per distance which basically corresponds
to the ability of a viewer to assimilate the
messages at 55-60 miles per hour. It also
prohibits blockage of signs by other sign
companies which is a potential problem within
the industry.
With respect to sign height, in Ordinance 01500
the limitation of sign neig t was inadvertently
left out, thereby necessitating this
PAB 4/3/85
Item K
Page 4
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clarification as to the permitted heights of
signs. In Zoning Ordinance #6871, detached
signs, now referred to as ground and free
standing signs, were limited in height to twenty
(20) feet above grade for residential districts
and thirty feet for commercial and industrial
districts. This limitation has proven to be
reasonable and proper. By way of clarification,
the Planning Department is proposing language
that would establish the height . of signs
commencing at the crown of the adjacent local or
arterial street, not including limited access
highways or expressways; such crown may be
varied by up to 5+ feet at the discretion of the
Zoning Administrator to accommodate unusual or
undulating site conditions.
RECOMMENDATIONS
PLANNING DEPT. Denial of specific amendments allowing outdoor
aadveF i s.i ng signsTo be viewed from, and located
within, 600 feet of the right-of-way line of any
limited access highway (including expressways),
including the related spacing, height, number of
faces, and devices proposed for prohibition for
the aforementioned, signs. All of these items
are addressed as amendments to Section 2026.15.2
of the text and CG-1 Uses Permitted Generally
paragraph 16 and Permissible Only by Special
Permit, paragraph 3 of the Official Schedule of
District Regulations.
Approval of general clarifications pertaining to
outdoor adver i si ng signs including: area of
outdoor advertising signs, establishing spacing
of outdoor advertising signs along Federal -Aid
Primary Highways and clarifying the number of
surfaces and height of outdoor advertising
signs. All of these items are addressed as
amendments to Sections 2026.15.1 and 2026.15.3
of the Text and Limitations on Signs, DG,
paragraphs 5 and 6 of the Official Schedule of
District Regulations.
PLANNING ADVISORY SHARD Denial of specific amendments to Section
?Vzo-.15.2 of the text and Official Schedule of
District Regulations DO-1 Uses Permitted
Generally, paragraph 16 and permissible Only by
Special Permit, paragraph 3, pertaining to
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viewed from, and located within, 600 feet of a
limited access highways including expressways
and the related spacing, height, number of faces
and devices by a 6-3 vote April 3, 1985.
And
Approval of general amendments to Sections
Viand 2026.15.3 and the Official Schedule
of District Regulations, Limitations in Signs
CG, paragraph 5 and 6 pertaining to area,
spacing along Federal Aid Primary Highways and
clarifying the number of surfaces and heights of
outdoor advertising signs, by a series of
resolutions April 3, 1985.as outlined below:
1) Resolution PAB 32-85, recommending approval
of amendments to Section 2026.15.1 - 8-0
2) Resolution PAB 33-85, recommending approval
of amendments to Section 2026.15.3 - 8-1
3) Resolution PAB 35-85, recommending approval
of amendments to the Official Schedule of .
District Regulations, Limitations on Signs,
CG, paragraph 5 - 7-2'
4) Resolution PAB 36-85, recommending approval
of amendments to the Official Schedule of
District Regulations, Limitations on Signs,
CG, paragraph 6 - 8-1
A& s mo d .
Secti6n 1. The taxt 0f Ordi nan6d 9900 at Mended, the 2oMi o9 Ordi MAMCn Of
the City of W 6M , E'1 on da, is hereby afendod as fol 1 ow5. 1
ARTICLE 20, GENERAL AND SUPPLEMENTARY gEGULATIONS
SECTION 2026. SIGNS, SPECIrIC LIMITATIONS AND REQUIR CMENTS
2026.15. Outdoor Advertising Sighs.
Signs used in the conduct of the outdoor advertising business shall be
regulated and restricted as follows in districts in which they are permitted.
2026.15.1 Limitations on Sign Area, Including Embellishments; Limitations
on Projections of Embellishments.
Tlcal stir €a The area of an outdoor advertising sign shall not exceed
oMbL%lli9hM-eMt9j if any (with sign and eM.bdllithM.4nt area Measured at Pt6vidtd
at Section 2025.1.11 Area of
2026,15.21 LimitatiOhg on Locatiom, ot.4,emtati-
Cmbellithmws of Outdoor Advertising Signs in Relation to
Limited Accost Highways and 8xprttsways.
4& Outdoor advertising signs shall Ibe erected, constructed, altertd,
maintained or relocated Within Six hundred (600) feet of the right-of-way
lines of Any limited access highway, including expressways, as established by
the State of Florida or any of its political subdivisions unless suej!-.-q4gM 4s-
parallel to, er et am angle of not greater thamth4pty (80) degi-ees w4th the
eemteelime ef any sueh limited aeeess h4ghway and faeed away feem sueh
h 4 ghway Where sueh 949ns are w4th4m s4m hundred (600) feet ef f9ere tham eme
44mited aeeess h4ghway, the 14m4at4ems set ferth abeye shall apply w4th
respeet to all stieh Highways. as a. special exception with City Commission
review and approval and subject' to the following conditions:
1. An outdoor advertising structure shall be spaced ;.-- ninimum of fifteen
hundred (1500) feet from another outdoor advertising structure or an
approved location for a general advertising sign on the same side of a
limited access highway, including expressways.
2. The height of the sign shall not exceed a height of fifty (50) feet
measured from the crown of the main -traveled road and in no instance
exceed a maximum height of sixty-five (65) feet measured from the crown
of the nearest adjacent or arterial street.
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5, 1`he sign ructure thA11 bps 6f 'uh po „ 0nstructi0n „wj th 0niy Lo f )sigh
faces back to back ant pg,na i l.g.. tb each ottior....
4. io devices shall bL utilied as art of
the outdoor advertising sign.
5. Si gn area, embel l i shmnnts and prajecti ons_ shall be as set forth in
Section 2026.15.1.
In authorizing a general adverti sing sign under these provisions as a
special exception the followings factors shall be considered:
- the impact on any vista or views that may be affected.
- the relationship with other roadway signs, inclusive of directional
signs.
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the impact on any notable structure or landmark.
- the impact upon driver safety in the area the sign is to be located.
- the appropriateness of the location in relation to the surrounding
neighborhood and adjacent uses.
2026.15.3. Limitations on Spacing of General Advertising Signs in Relation
to Federal -Aid Primary Highway Systems.
Outdoor advertising signs shall be spaced a minimum of one thousand
(1000) feet from another sign, or an approved location, on the same side of a
federal -aid primary highway.
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Section 2. Page 5 of the Official Sdhedule Of district ReWatiOMS Made
Part of said Ordihamdt 9500 it hereby amended at follows:
PRINCIPAL USES AND STRUCTURES
CG-1- GENERAL COMMERCIAL
Permitted Generally
16. Offsite signs, including outdoor advertising signs (subject to the
Off sito i n5, includin butd adv�rLti ing signu, within 600 fopt alone)
limited acb htihwys, ncludingx rsswys, sh4ll.bdrmissihl only
by S pci 1 EX�ej tion oMi ssion rev ��rip app►�bva1 and �ub�oct
wbvi si Ohs Of Seoti on 2026,
LIMITATIONS ON SIGNS
CG GENERAL COMMERCIAL (GENERALLY)
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. 5. Ground or freestanding signs, onsi te, shall be limited to one (1) sign
and forty (40) square feet of sign area (for each face) for each
business, or for each fifty (50) feet of street frontage, whichever shall
yield the largest number of area. Permitted sign area may be used in
less than the maximum permitted number of such signs, but no sign shall
exceed two hundred (200) square feet in area for each face. Maxir,!um
height limitation shall be twenty (20) feet including embellishments,
measured from the crown of the nearest adjacent local or arterial street,
not including limited access highways or expressways, provided however,
j that the Zoning Administrator at his discretion may increase the
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Meaturtmtht of the VP�n'-.bY-A,U ACC6MOdatt UMUSUAI or
6rOUhd Or freestanding 0011t, o'ffsite, shall be limiteal to two (20) for
any lot, whether or not Occupied by a building, Te t a 4- -s u i- The area
shall not exceed 75O Sq,ft, dUMU!idti-ve4j- for +4 each tUrfaCe+, imCluding
embellishments. The total height shall not exceed thirty (30) feet'
except as set forth in Section
measured from the crown of the nearest adjacent local or arterial street,
not including limited accoss"hi_ghwayt or expressways, provided, however,
that the Zoning Administrator, at his discretion, may increase the
measurement -of the crown by up to five (5) feet to Accommodate unusual or
undulating site conditions.
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ANALYSIS AND MODELING OF
RELATIONSHIPS
RESEARCH
DEVE-LOPMENt• DETWEEN ACCIDENTS
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GEOMETRIC AND TRAFFIC CIIARACTERISTICS
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Table S. (continued)
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Geometric
Effect
Geometric " Effect
Presence of
A consistent safety contribution of delineators is found for
2
Delineators
three models:
Type of The results suggest that divided, crossroads increase~ the:
v,
Nearest safety of mainline roadway between speed change lane -
Change in accidents
Crossroad But divided crossroads seem tau increase accidents for
e€
due to presence of
Underpass or Outer Connection models., These commits
delineators Model
are hard to interpret or explain.
-°.22 Ramp of Diamond
- .02 Deceleration Lane
Change in: accidents
a
- .01 Between Interchange Units-
for divided rather
than undivided cross -
Presence of
Mixed results were obtained as shown below. The
road Modet
e
Pavement Edge
results are particularly suspicious based on contradictory
- .038 Roadways Between; Speed
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Markings
results for the two deceleration type of units.
Change Lane
Change to accidents
+.025 underpass
+ .Oil Outer Conneetistt T
l
due to the presence
of edge markings Model
k
- .» Outer Connection
- • 04 Deceleration Half of
Number of The results indicate that in the middle of an Interchange
Combined
information Information signs are reducing; accidents. but toe an
+ .02 Deceleration Lane
Signs Readable underpass information signs increase aecldentw.
_ 14 Loop
from Roadway
Change in accidents
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Surface Type
Surface type appeared as a significant variable In only
for each. additional
S of the'13 models considered. Bituminous surface ap-
information sign Model
pears water than concrete in the 4 out of S models in which
- .024 Roadway Between; Spot*
this variable appears. This result is hard to reconcile
Change Lane
with engineering judgment.
+ .025 Underpass
The contrast in results for acceleration and deceleration /
further doubt
Numbei off' '"'' The results'indlcate thatcolflmeretaL si s tm cove
hues sots on these results.
Advertising safety. Even,more astonishing is the result four the
Signs Resdabls:k r7 Underpass model where commercial signs help„ but
Change In accidents
from Roadway-.:•.i information signs hurt.- It nothing else. this result
for bituminous surface
. illustrates the llinifs larregressios models as discus d
rather than concrete Model
earlie
- .54 Direct and Semi -direct
Change in accidents
Connection
for each. additional
- .41 Loop
commercial sign Modet
- .05 Acceleration Lane
- .03 Between Interchange Units
- .017 Underpass
♦ .02 Deceleration Lane
- .011 Overpass
,Distance to
The results suggest that an overpass is safer when close
Nearest
to an interchange while an underpass is safer it for from
3. Analysis of Units with Excepitonal! .High Accident Fre4uene
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Interchange
an Interchange. The second result seems reasonable but
A. Introduction
the first does not.
"Failure Analysts" is s technique commonly used In, thr
Change to accidents
evaluation and improvement of operational systems- This technique has beets
per I mile increase
applied to the Interstate accident data base (Study III for each of the thistesta
In distance to inter-
change Model
unit types studied in this report.. Essentially,, this method. eonsiste of isolating;
-..at Overpass
study units which had an unusually large: number of accidents per year whit,
+ . 007 Underpass
respect to other units of the same type and then examining all of the blalsatr
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'door advertising devices?
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A I made three studies of accidents an three high speed
limited access expressways in bade County, Florida.
q And over ghat peridd of time was data gathered to that
and utilized for that study? • •' •
A I had the accident- locations for all accidents for tine •, .
year 1964 for 'the Palmetto Expressway, -fOr •the.itrth-South Express
way and for the East-West Fxpreasway, some tines "'reFerzed' tc as, the
Airport Expressway. A
Q Nov, ws this study done using the same approaches and '
techniques you.had done with respect to the New York thiuway sad
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the Carden State Parkway studies? .
• A Yes. .. ; z:: ,• .•• :, •',. ..
Q And you 'gathered the same kited of 'information in the same �
• basic form? .
A Yes.
q • You performed correlation analysis and partial c6rrelatiol
;
analysis with respect to. this? '
A Yes.
Q Bised' on the study of the three expressways i-a* xiami, ..•
Were you able to reach any opinion as to vhether there, was any �; ••
statistical correlation between craffis accidents and locatiou'of ?
i
outdoor advcrt sing devices?
A Yes*
M. STCFFEL: Itm apin going to rgSister- for, the record
the same objection to this' conclusion as Z have to the others: ;
E COLEY: Overruled.
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Igns for any one of the three bad& County expresWays. •
Have there been any other studies done to ascertain
�hethet there's any correlation between location, of ec=erclal
or billboard' devices, and traffic accidents?
advertising, _ .
A Of this same type?
• Q Yes? ,
A I don't Imoa of nay. .
Q AIL right, have there' been any federal studies on this
issue? '
A iTell, there has been a study by -the Federal Higbway
.ublished in 1969 covering data •supplied by twenty
Adminis t=a t3.on p _ , , , • .
states covering sixty-nine hundred miles of interstate highway
ears With respect to the.-
over a period of approxiaatelq six y P
locations of aeeidettts and 'Highway characteristics. •
Q All right, and' do you recall approximately hcw many
accidents were studied in that study?
A ?here were approximately forty-five thousand accidents
ist the total study. ,
Q Was ,correlation aralysis perfor.�.ed i.•� the same fashion
as you described?
A Yes, they performed a multiple correlation and partial_'.,
correlation in the same manner Which I perforeed the .
WR . I am goingto Laterpose an objection hera
the •sams a$ 0--1 oti•.er•,;�t, �„ add�,to^� thisis sdy a.ga�,
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as to the earlier* one he had no thing to do vi th,
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TRZ COURT; Sustained as to ivc had nothing to• do with it'
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2 R. IIOUZV. your Honor, may 1 ask one atQte v+es tioc► i h±e
Simi twig of an offer of proof?
7119 COURT: You may.
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(By Mr. He a TesPtct: to the
What was the results wt
rederal Highway study at to any correlation between outdoor ad.
•
vertLsitig devices and other devices?
A A tobelusion? 6
And traffic accidents?
M STOML06. So the record 13 clear, you noted our ob-
TM COURT: He's making an offer..
• M; HOLM That. is an offer of proof.
�ltt'_ �,��iD' are.
-THE COMT: Yes. L
A conclusion of the_ Federal Highway Administration study
was that thire was no relationship betweew accidents and advertisiig
signs- and .that in certain locations -accidint* signs ,*V'eire actually
beneficial advertising signs were actually beneficial.
MR. ROLIC: Ail right-, that's the end of the offer of
proof.
MM =RT-0 Offer of proof will be -rejected.
.Q., (By Mr. Rolme) With• respect to - excuse me,. strike that.
Were you asked to prepare a correlation study with respect to the
relationship between traffic accidents And billboard locations on
an urban city street with normal traffic- speeds?
A Yes.
q And where were you asked to oerform, that study?
A
Denver.
Were'you
able to
perform such a study?
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No.
Q
Would you
please
state why?
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There are
several
reasons why-swch a study cannoc
be per -
Caroled,
Humber one
is you must have the precise lowitibn
of each
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What the ordinance would do
40t,anges to Miami's signordinance would keep signs
confined to heavily industrial and commercial areas, Red indicates �.tlt ce si3cts are
and. not allowed.
1) A11uw them to face expressways with 600 feet of ' - Yellow where signs are allowed.
the right-of-way;
2) Increase their triaxinttun he from 3Q to 50 'feet Spacing, Zoning, Existing Signs, SE erely
as -measured from the crown of the expressways or Limited Buildable Sign a'iahts:
65 feet as measured from the nearest adjacent local' road;> Signs will be allowed on only 3.1 miles ••f
3) Require 1,500 feet of space between expressway sign; 1-95, Scale 1j2r« _ 12tO Et•
and 1,000 feet bawc-en those on federal -aid Primary
highways, su-n as South Dixie Highway and Tainiam'.
Trail;
4) Maintain the 750-square-400t size limit on all signs,
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ENCLOSURES.
Enclosed herein please find an excerpt from the minutes of the
City Commission meeting of February•28, 1985, which this office
has completed upon your request.
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Mayor perre. Now we're on item number 1, which is properly
before us. Mrs. Manager, I think the proper procedure here
is for the administration to present this case and the
proponents make a statement and the opponents will then slake
a statement. Just to we can get time frames here) how many
of you are here on this item 1? please raise your hand.
How many of you wish to speak on this first reading? I'm
sorry, on the second reading. How many wish to speak, raise
your hands please. MAYOR COUNTS HANDS. I see twelve
speakers. Let's proceed then. Will the administration
present its position?
Mr. George Knox: Mr. Mayor, if I may for one second. My
name is George Knox. May I respectfully request that the
staff check with Commissioner Carollo's office. It's my
understanding that this is a matter about which he has
sufficient interest to want to cast his vote. Would it be
possible to check his office?
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Knox, as I understand it, Commissioner
Carollo will be here at 11:00 and we will defer final
conclusion if he is not here by the time we get to vote.
My guess is that with twelve speakers, you have well over an
hour and a half of discussion going on before we come to a
vote. As I understand it, Commissioner Carollo will be here
_ by that time. If he's not here, out of courtesy to him, we
will then hold it up until he is here this afternoon for a
final vote.
Mr. Knox: Thank you, sir.
Mr. Plummer: Let's hear from the staff first.
Mr. Sergio Rodriguez: Just to refresh your memory. As you
know, this item has been before the Commission on different
occasions. It has been going back to the Planning Advisory
Board for recommendations. There are three major issues
that we're going to bring today that we believe are
important, and Mr. Whipple, from the Planning Department,
will go over the presentation. The three major points that
we want to impress on you today is first, we believe that
having billboards on expressways, as proposed by the people.._..
representing the billboard industry, will have a very
negative effect on the area. First, because it will have an
effect on the safety of people traveling in those areas. As
you know, billboards are designed to attract attention.
That's the main purpose for them. We're proposing, through
this amendment from the billboard industry to have them
placed in roads that are very congested and in which people
travel at very high speed. The second item that I want to
bring to your attention in the discussion is that the
billboards, if placed as proposed, will have a very
detrimental effect on the image of the City, These are the
roads taken by people that come to the City for the first
time. These are the roads taken by people coming through
the City_ every day: and they will be placed in areas where
we have a beautiful skyline or a view of the waterfront,
The item that We want to bring to your attention is that by
placing these billboards in the areas being proposed, they
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will have a Specific iMpact on tnd dommunity in which they
are placed. With that, Mr. Whipple will Make the
presentati0h now in Mbre detail.
Mr. Richard Whipple! Mayor and menbers of the C=tiss oh,
Richard Whipple, Chief of the Land Development Divitioh,
Planning Department. 1'd like to start by briefly giving a
little bit of the history, so that you understand how we got
to this point today. As the Commission night remember, the
Planning Department has been amending the new Zoning
ordinance, as necessary to cover things that we hissed or tc
readjust things that should have been readjusted, one of
these items was an oversight in the drafting of the
ordinance and that it did not set forth a maximum helgh'
limit for signs. it also there was COnfusion in the writing
with respect to the number of faces of billboards that could
be on a site. We, therefore, processed amendment before
this Commission by which to correct these oversights in
ordinance number 9500. In doing so, however, each time that
these items came to the Commission for their consideration,
there were some questions raised by the billboard industry
and this Commission saw fit to refer the item back for the
department to consider those items that the industry brought
forward. These were done in a various manner. Finally, it
was admitted that the billboard industry, although they had
talked about angles and facings and things like that, what
the industry wanted was permission to allow billboards along
I-95 and other expressways in the City that have been
prohibited since 1965.
Mayor Ferre: Excuse me, Dick, I see that the television
cameras are not taking any of this. Would you mind terribly
\ if you take these television lights off? Mr. Manager, can
you help us please? Can somebody help us?
Mr. Whipple: In 1965 we passed a very comprehensive set of
sign regulations of which there's prohibition within 600
feet of an expressway was incorporated. What is being asked
today through this amendment is that they now be permitted
and that they be permitted with spacing. Needless to say,
as Mr. Rodriguez has indicated, the department is opposed to
this changing of the law. We feel it is inappropriate.
Mr. Dawkins: What's inappropriate?
Mr. Whipple: That's what I'm getting into, Commissioner
Dawkins. As Mr. Rodriguez has indicated, the signs along
the interstate with the speeds and the congestion that
exists, is a potential hazard. The signs are intended to
distract drivers and when a driver takes his eyes off the
road, there is a potential danger and possible accident that
could happen in that instance. I don't believe there needs
to be too much detail on that. As to the amenities or the
esthetics of the community and the image of the community,'"
we have a few slides, which I'd like to show you. They'll
be fairly quick._ I'll not comment on each individual one.
They're in two sections. The first series is a number of
slides, which are taken from the expressway of the views
around the City. These are selected areas where billboards
would be permitted, In other words, as you look at the
slides and you see that say, downtown in the background, you
can imagine that right in front of the position of the
camera, there could be a billboard, if this ordinance is
passed. The second part is a number of slides which show
the types of billboards which is now the type that is being
erected around the country and elsewhere in Dade County.
Most of these slides were taken along the Palmetto
Expressway in the incorporated areas of Hialeah, Hialeah
Gardens, Medley, on the northern end of the Palmetto and the
point of all this to show you that we do not believe the
City of M am needs this image, We believe that we are
looked at as a very clean, as a very beautiful., as a very
era '
+ open City► To ihtrod uce this kind of activity along our
expresswaya and our entrandeway5 to the City, we feel can
only be damagingt
Mr. Dawkins: Before you start your slides, 1 need some
informations please- When you wane preparing for thin, did
you do a research to find out the number Of accidents that
were caused on 1.40 between Tampa and Orlando to show me
that it was dangerous and compare it against the numbers
than were on 1-95 here. Did you do a study determining how
many accidents occurred on 75 between Tampa and Ocala,
therefore giving me some data on which to base your theory
that it's unsafe. bid you also do a study of the number of
accidents that occurred on 95 going from Jacksonville to
Georgia, so therefore, when you tell me that it's unsafe,
that these sign boards are unsafe, that you have some
empirical data for me to look at and then tell me how many
accidents have occurred on -what is it that goes by the
Miami Herald? 1- 12 or 3-1
Mr. Whipple: 395-
Mr. Dawkins: 395, tell me how many accidents occur at 395
right there by Biscayne Boulevard where you have four signs
'sticking right up by the expressway over the building where
the Urban League is.
Mr. Whipple: Point number one, we did not make a statement
of unsafe. We pointed out that there was a potential hazard
involved because of the distraction. To answer your
question specifically about 1-4 and I-95 and I-10 in
Jacksonville and things like that, to my knowledge there has
been no studies done on that since late 1960's where there
was a study done on the New York throughway. We didn't
elect to bring that up and we only elect to suggest that the
mere idea of outdoor advertising is to attract somebody's
attention. That's their-, business; that's the product
they're selling. For you or I going along I-95 at 55 miles
per hour, take our eyes off the road, which we shouldn't;
I'm suggesting that constitutes a potential hazard. I do
not have any specific numbers as you have suggested.
Mr. Dawkins: Thank you.
Mayor Ferre: Are you going to give us the slide
presentation now? Could we cut off the lights please? Is
that a sign?
Mr. Whipple: No, sir, as I indicated, I just want to take
us through a series of views of the City. Of course, this
is the one slide that you could not put a`billboard in front
of, I believe, they wouldn't float on the river. They would
probably sink. But as we drive along our expressways, and
if
if you want the location of any of these signs, I'd be glad'`
to give you an indication where they're at. For instance,
this I believe is along I-395, looking toward the downtown.
These are again random shots going around the ranch. You
could see where the signs could be placed over in the left
hand side, blocking some of the view and also signs beyond
the expressway, which would block some of the views and'
vistas in the City_. This is 195, heading toward the Julia
Tuttle Causeway and our new apartment development that
exists in that area. As you may remember the south side of
the expressway at this location is zoned commercial and
would allow billboards which could have shut these views and
vistas of the City. I'm running through these quickly,
because they are in a way repetitious as we get in closer
downtown, you'll find a vast area that also :has a potential
between 1-95 and the downtown before you get to the'downtpwn
turn-off in the industrial areas there, which billboards
Could be erected. Next to the ramp in front of 0P new
parXing garage and the cultural center. Coming. to a
position here that 1'd like to call your attention to Just
as a way of illustratingo this is a Shot -1111 get to it
yet- this is a shot from 1-95 from a northbound dirtot 6m
looking toward 8th Street. On the left hand aide of the
slide in the way far background you'll see the Cult Station
at the Trail and 1-55. This is a aouthbound direction of
the sable location showing the Cult Station at the Trail,
You canna see some of the buildings of the 8rickell Avenue
area and some of the 'buildings dawn along South 8ayshore
Drive and Coral Way. This is what we might see at a
location such as that.
Mayor Ferre: Where is that photograph?
Mr. Plummer., 8th Street.
Mayor Ferre: No, the previous one. Do you want to go back
to the previous one? Where is that?
Mr. Whipple: This is one of the signs out on the Palmetto
expressway.
Mayor Ferre: This is in Dade County?
Mr. Whipple: Dade County, Hialeah, Hialeah Gardens, Medley
area, not in the unincorporated area of Dade County.
Mayor Ferre: Does the unincorporated area of have similar
restrictions to what we have?
Mr. Whipple: Yes, sir.
Mayor Ferre: So, this is only in Hialeah, because Hialeah
obviously permits this. Is that it?
Mr. Whipple: Yes.
Mr. Pierce: Mr. Mayor, just for the record, up until July,
I believe, of 1983, Dade County had an ordinance on its
books that prohibited the expressway signs in both the
municipalities and in the unincorporated areas. They
amended that ordinance at -that time removing the restriction
within the municipalities.
Mr. Whipple: Here are a couple of slides- that show some of
our non -conforming billboards that are located in the City
that have not been removed. You can see how they mar the
entrances and the landscape of our City. The next picture
is just to show the proliferation and the impact of the
signs if erected in Miami, such as they have been out in
Hialeah, Medley and that area. You see the signs are quite
ingenious, quite large, quite high, quite distracting. if
there isn't sufficient land area to put up four poles, they..,.. �T
put up one pole and hang it over the top of another
building,, a triangle, three sided billboard. Point being,
we do not believe that the City of Miami needs this. We
believe this is a poor image to set before the public and
before our tourists and our visitors. That's why we are
very much opposed to the inclusion of additional billboards
in the City. That is not to say, however, that we are.
opposed to billboards. Part of the comprehensive sign
reguations that Were prepared in 145 and which we've been
using since that time, which- seem to be quite workable and
reasoniaole, was to establish billboards as a commercial use.
DiX e we do with any use in a zoning ordinance, we
recommended and adopted where these uses should go, These
uses do have a proper pla-ce in the City of Miami in. a
properly zoned districts, those being the liberal commercial
districts or the industrial districts, not the commercial
residential districts, which .might have an adverse impact
when residential development did occur on those districts,
or where there is so much residential deveiepmont abutting,
those CP districts. So we are not opposed to billboards
There's places forK thee. As you've reed, there are a number
of signs in this City. We don't have an ekadt Number, but
we imagine it's around 600 of the large boards, We believe
that's sufficient toning, suf fiCient use, reasonable use,
properly regulated Arid that the ordinance should not be
amended to allow more.
Mr. Plummer,. Mr. Whipple, let me ask you this question.
Understanding your last statement that you are not opposed
to billboards, that there is a place for them and we do have
rhea, I have to question the validity of your prior
statement of saying that it was a blight. A blight is a
blight wherever it exists. If you have them, for ekarmple,
on U8-1. There are a number of billboards on US-1, which is
a main arterial. It carries as much or more traffic than I.
95 through the City. So I find a conflict in your two
statementsb one, that they are a blight, yet you feel that
you are not opposed to billboards; there is a place for
them, which I assume to think you do approve them. I find a
conflict in your statement. Would you speak to that?
Mr. Whipple: Is that the first time I've ever had a
conflicting statement?
Mr. Plummer: No, sir, it's not the first, but it's the
first time I've reminded you.
Mr. Whipple: I don't believe there is any conflict there.
The way you stated it sounds like there is, but there really
isn't. The point is we, a number of people may dislike
billboards completely. Perhaps I'm even one of them, but as
a Planner or as an administrator to the zoning ordinance, we
feel, unless told otherwise by the legislative body that we
work for, that there is a place for billboards in the
community and we find, we locate them in places where we
feel that they will be !least objectionable and least
burdensome on the community. That's what we have done. So,
I really don't see that there is a conflict.
Mr. Plummer: O.K., I understand what you're saying, but I
also have to as far as the visual blight or to the
i environmental bright, but doesn't the same thing exist in
reference to safety?
Mr. Whipple: To some degree, yes, this is a fact. However,
you had ample different opportunities with respect to
billboards when you're talking about the build up of urban
cities. You have stop signs, you have traffic lights, you
have slower traffic, you have the visual aspect of the
pedestrians ability to see signs and therefore, yes, it
applies, but not to. the degree it would along an interstate
highway going 55 or 65 miles an hour. _
Mr. Plummer: 65 miles an hour, I think, is illegal. I'm
not sure of that".
Mr. Whipple: I thought I'd throw it in.
Mr. Plummer: Knowing you, I understand.
Mayor Ferre: Are we ready for the presentation by the ....
Mr, Whipple; I was just going to say I believe there's
other people that would like to speak; if you have any
questiQn3 or I'll return.
Mayor Ferrell , I know that. Are there other department
people that want to speak'' Is that what you said?
Mr, Plummer. have some questions of the department, Mr,
Mayor, I'll do them now, or I'll do them afterwards;
whatever you wish,
Mayor Ferret You do what you watt.
Mr. Mummer; Let me try to Make it brief. Mr. Whipple, as
it stands this ordinande before us today, am I dorredt in
assuming this would establish whetter regardlesa of the
numbera that are applied in this ordinance today, wouldn't
thia establish some regulation that doesn't eatist today such
as spading, eueyh as distance, such as height that our
ordinance doea not speak to today? Is that correct?
Mr. Whipple: Yes, sir.
Mr. Plummer: Sasically, Mr. Mayor, that's the basis of the
questions. I can go into them later.
Mayor Ferret All right, we will now hear froth t he
proponents, Mr. Knox.
Mr. George Knox: Thank you Mr. Mayor, members of the
Commission, my name is George F. Knox. I am attorney and
member of the law firm of Long, Knox, and Mays located at
4770 Biscayne Boulevard, Suite 970, 576-77770
'Mr. Plummer: You are no briefer than when you were City
Attorney.
Mr. Knox: Mr. Mayor, members of the Commission, the issue,
while emotional is relatively simple. Our presentation is
not going to be much longer than the Gettysberg Address,
which I believe is twelve minutes. The issue is as simple
\ as the constitution of the United States of America and the
policy of the State of Florida. The question before this
Commission involves fundamental fairness, the consistent
application of both City of Miami and State policy, and the
_ question of equal protection of the laws. There is a
phenomenon that exists throughout our country that has. led
to, for example, the establishment in some folks' opinicn
that the City of Pittsburgh is among the most livable cities
in the United States of America. The fact is tha.
Pittsburgh, in spite of that characterization, its citizens
have to live with soot and smoke and all of the incidents
that are required to support and sustain the major industry
in Pittsburgh. Jacksonville, I believe, enjoyed in this
same survey, a ranking of 48, which was about four positions
ahead of Miami, and for those of you who know and love
Jacksonville, the citizens of Jacksonville must contend with
smoke and paper mills and the foul odor that the ma_n
industries in Florida, in Jacksonville must provide to the
citizens. In South Florida the major industry is. tourism.
It's attitude of my clients that tourism must be supported
by its citizens. In our great cities, there is a
cooperation between the government and the private sector,.-
which is designed to support the major industry. The
legislature of the State of Florida, in its wisdor,
announced its policy concerning outdoor advertising. I will
read from the legislative intent of the State of Florida,
when the new act was adopted in 1984. That intent was to
enhance the economic well being of the State by promoting
tourist oriented businesses, such as public accommodations,
vehicle services, attractions, camp grounds, parks and
recreational areas, and to promote points of scenic,'
historic, cultural, and educational interests. We dare say
further that the policy of the City of Miami is that there
is an ability to place outdoor advertising along I-95 and.
the other limited access highways because they are there.
There is no evidence that the City has :trade any attempts tv
remove them. . Therefore, the question is whether or nog
those incumbent privileged persons who are now perMitted. to
advertise along I-95', gain some unfair advantage without an•
rational basis against those who would 5veR to do that,
There has peen, some discuss cn about the question of safety.
The facts do mot bear out AMY assertion that the PlAdeWt
of outdoor advertising iffiPadtg Upon safety. `here was a
major trial in California three YeAP8 ago, where the
question of safety arose. An expert witness by the name of
Dr. E r n a S t f3landhe testified. He testified about
expressways in Miami. I will read from the official record
his comments. First, the witness testified that he Made
three studies of accidents On three high speed, limited
Access highways in Dade County, Florida, the Palftetto
Expressway, the so-called north/south expresswayo and the
east/west expressway, sometimes referred to as the airport
expressway. This expert's conclusion was that there was no
relationship between accidents and advertising along those
highway$- That witness also pointed out that there was a
federal highway administration study covering 6t90o miles
and 45#000 accidents, The conclusion of the federal highway
administration study was that there was no relationship
between accidents and advertising signs and that in certain
locations, advertising signs were actually beneficial. That
witness was quoting from a study which was done in the form
of a research and development report by the Federal Highway
Administration Bureau of Public Records, both divisions of
the United States Department of Transportation. Tha-t
finding was, and 1 quote:
"The results indicate that commercial signs
improve safety."
And I close my quote. There is no essential difference
between outdoor advertising signs along thoroughfares and
those along interstate highways. Therefore,, there is no
rational basis in the law to deprive individuals of the
opportunity for so long as that activity is permitted from
placing sings in an industrial zone with proper regulation
pursuant to the policy of the State of Florida and the
policy of the City of Miami. There is a distinct, legal,
and practical difference between a prohibition, a ban, and
regulation, if in fact there are overwhelming aesthetic
considerations associated with the placement of outdoor
advertising, then this Commission may adopt a policy of
prohibiting them. Absent such a policy, then there may be
some serious question about whether there may be the
selective classification which could result in sore
discriminations of persons being deprived of a privilege
that others enjoy. Finally, the proposed ordinance is
sensitive to questions of aesthetics. It is sensitive to
questions of proliferation, and represents a reasonable
regulation of a permissible activity within the City of
Miami. Finally, we urge that this Commission look at this
whole question as an opportunity to once again occupy the
vanguard and the cutting edge of promoting tourism and
between the government and the private sector, there may be
creative constructive, productive, and perhaps even
economically beneficial ways in order to carry out the
objective of the ordinance. Finally, we urge the Commission
to conform to the policy of the State of Florida to use
outdoor advertising as a legitimate tool to promote our
attractions, to_ -provide information to strangers to our
community and to otherwise be consistent with promoting
tourism in our community and unless, there are some
questions we thank you very much and we would respectfully
reserve some time for our rebuttal if necessary or
appropriate.
Mayor Ferre; Mr. Knox, I thank you and you of course, wi'l
have the right to rebut and we will give you ample timer
How much time has elap3ed?
Mrs. Matty Hirai; Eight minutes,
Mayor Ferre; Bight minutes, iQ yQu are four minutes short
of the Gettysberg AdOreost even though I don't thinly the
Gettysterg Addre3; was twelve minutes, You will have ample
time, because I'm giure the oppqzition will taXe more than
eight minutes. As I remember countings there were at least
a d62en people who wanted to speak• is there any particular
ordetA or is there anybody who has established.,,? Mr,.
Freeman, the Chair recognizes you.
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Mayor Ferret Mr. Freeman, before we, I need to establish
time perimeters before anybody speaks. So, have you
marshaled all of the speakers that are in opposition or some
of them?
Mr. Freeman: It would be impossible to marshal all the
speakers that are in opposition, Mayor, but we've done our,
best, �
Mayor Ferre: How many speakers do you have?
Mr. Freeman: I have about eight, I think, and I'm not sure
they are all here.
Mayor Ferret I counted twelve, so that means that there are
other people that are not. Let's have a show of hands again
of people who wish to speak on this issue to address the
Commission. MAYOR COUNTS HANDS. Sixteen, how many of the
sixteen are for the ordinance in the public. No, no, people
who raised their hands to be a speaker, how many of the
speakers that are for the ordinance, would like to speak. .
MAYOR COUNTS HANDS. Three proponents, so I assume the other
thirteen are opponents. Now, let me ask you this question.
Does anybody need more than three minutes?
Mr. Freeman: I don't think so in our group, Mayor.
Mayor Ferre: O.K., so we'll go on a three minute basis and
you can proceed.
Mr. Freeman: Thank you, Mayor and Commissioners, I'm Lester
Freeman. I live at 2180 Brickell in Miami. I'm here today
with an informal coalition of Miamians to support the
recommendations of the Planning Department. We are not here
to ban billboards. We are here simply to reinforce the
support of fair regulations of Dillboards, which this City
put into place almost twenty years ago. This regulation has
been consistent with the goals for all elements of our
community, economic progress, neighborhood tranquility, and
environmental protection. The potential conflicts between
the interests in our community were worked out at that time.
All the various community assets have been enhanced in this
regulatory climate in the ensuing years. In our view
there's simply is no justification for relaxation of the
regulations. There doesn't seem to be any broad demand for: -
relaxation. There doesn't seem to be any demonstration of
great need in the community for relaxation, nor does there
in fact seem to: be any great potential value in it for the
entire community. Therefore, we urge you to let this
proposal die today. The citizens of Miami have indicated
absolutely no mandate for change. Our coalition includes a
mixture of interests. Several of them are going to speak
briefly for three minutes from variant points of view. Most
of our group, however, will not speak. But I would like to,
just once again, ask them, those that are in favor of
letting this proposition die today, to rare their hands so
you will see that they are here. Our first speaker s' a
gentleman well known to all of you, one of our great civic
leaders: one of these who believes in this community' as
great as anyone we know because he has a long family
heritage here and that's Lester Pancoast,
Mayor Ferre: 4e5ter-, there is a Question hare. As
recall, you do live in Coconut Grove.
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Mr. Freeman! I live in the City of Miami on grickell.
Mr. Lester Pant-6aSt! Mrs. ' Mayor and Commisaioners, twenty
years ago a man created An eXpre$sway system, Which for the
first time gave us a high level view of the City of Miami
Mr. Carollo: ftcuse me, Mr. panC oast, please, if I may ask
all the speakers Vhen they come up if they can give their,
address also besides their games, and give their home
address So we can know who live in the City of Miami and who
do Moto please?
Mr. Pancoast: My place of work and my place of residence
are bath in the City of Miami. We got a high level view of
the City of Miami for the first time. I shocked a lot of us
and thrilled a lot of us because we found out even the west
side of our downtown skyline was quite fascinating and has
grown enormously since. Ten years ago nature dealt us s
terrible blow. Nature took away the coconut palms, which
were a major symbol of this City. Now man is considering
selling out the clarity of that view, even without its
symbols. I question whether it's intelligent to worry about
the look of a garbage pile in our communities and our
neighborhoods if we are going to allow another kind of
garbage to be thrown up high above everybody. Neighborhoods
affect small numbers of people, but these expressways affect
absolutely all of us. The voters of Miami put their trust
in your intelligence and we do not understand why this is
even coming up for consideration today. U.S.-1 mentioned
earlier by you,' J.L., has long been a sad failure in the
-� City of Miami, largely because of the outburst of signs upon
\ it. Biscayne Boulevard staggers under the weight of
enormous signs which really sap it of any quality it might
claim in certain areas. The clarity of this view is worth
much more than the effect of Miss America or "Miami Vice,"
the positive side of that. The cities that have had this
problem are desperately trying to get out from under it, and
we're considering taking it on as a yoke. Houston, Atlanta,
Boston, Dallas, Little Rock, which has gotten a lot bigger
than you may remember, the rock is bigger now; San Diego,
Seattle, all of these cities are desperately trying to undo
what you gentlemen are considering doing today.
Mr. Freeman: Mrs. Alice Wainwright, former Commissioner,
who introduced the existing regulations.
Mayor Ferre: While Mrs. Wainwright is walking up, let me
say that the time mechanism, the lights_ are not working, but
the time clock is working and we're keeping a record. I
would ask the Clerk to let me know by waiving at me or
otherwise when the three minutes are up. Mrs. Wainwright,
we are always honored with your presence. I can think of no
other person that has served with more courage and dignity,
and diligence than you did this City in the years that you
were a City of -Miami Commissioner. We are always honored
with anything th'at you are involved in.
Mrs. Alice Wainwright: Thank you, Mr. Mayor, for your,very
gracious remarWs. For the record, my name is Alice
'0anwright. My address is 3601 Bay View Road, Coconut
Grove. Mr. Mayor and members of the Commission, I wish to
speak briefly why I'm opposed to the amendment before you
today. I want to very briefly rebut a remark my
distinguished attorney eolleague, Mr. Knox, He spoke about
fairness. He mentioned that signs, billboards are visible
from the present 1-95 expressway, but I'm not sure he's
familiar with the ordinance. Those signs do not face I-95,
They Face the side streets upon which they are located, Az
t has been said, I had the pleasure of introducing this
Present ordinance in 1965. We believe that it has served
khe City well; that it was In the public interest- I thi-I;;
it is worth cotbMenting that ordinance passed the Cortmittlon
by unahilOus vote, Two factors brought us into
consideration about banning billboards al6hg the expressway.
First was safety. I also want to say that the Atteridan
Association of Ardhtects did a domplete study on the entire
billboard issue nationally. Safety was one of the factors
which they felt was an element in regulating sighs. Ihenw
of courses a very important consideration was esthetics. We
believe that there should be an unobstructed view of the
City's skyline. It was impressive then; it is more
impressive now. Many of you on the Commission have added to
the dignity and the site and the view of that skyline. We
don't want to see you undo that. We felt that wherever was
appropriate, Miami's tropical atmosphere should be preserved
to promote tourism. Heaven knows we need tourists, Mr.
pancoast has referred to regulations in cities such as San
Francisco, Honolulu, and the State.of Vermont. Those places
have a booming tourist industry, one that we would do well
to emulate. Miami's present sign ordinance is not an
arbitrary ordinance. The planning Department held many
workshops attended by members of the outdoor advertising
industry as well as planners, architects, and members of the
business community. Some of those people are here today who
participated in those workshops. On the Commissionlevel,
.we had two special evening meetings devoted entirely to the
ordinance, and we hammered out agreements that the industry
was happy with then, and which we felt were reasonable.
Under the ordinance that we adopted in 1965 and as Mr.
Whipple mentioned, there are hundreds of sign locations now
in the City of Miami that give an opportunity to advertise
goods and services. I'm not sure that everybody here is
aware of the broad base of the opposition to having
billboards on the expressway. Yesterday, I had a great many
telephone calls from strangers, people that I don't know at
all, people that had read the articles in the press, and
people that had seen the television coverage. They care
about Miami. Some of those people I believe are here
today. I shall give you a brief sampling of some of their
comments. A realtor, who is a native Miamian, said that he.
was indignant that this issue would be seriously considered
at this time. He said if the Commission permits billboards
in the expressway, those Commissioners who vote for it
should be tarred and feathered. An old lady neighbor of
mine, who is 91 years old, said as I left today, "Alice,
give them hell." I want to finally conclude by saying that
you can't argue with success. We believe that the present
ordinance on the books is a success. We feel that it would
be against the public interest of the City of Miami on its
image to the touring community and to our visitors people
that have traveled all around the world, and who are
sensitive to beauty to change the gateway to Miami, which I-
95 is. Therefore, I do hope that this amendment is not
passed today because in my own view, it would be a giant
step backwards and the results would be an irreparable —
damage to the City of Miami. Thank you.
APPLAUSE. _
Mr. Freeman: Mr. Seth Gordon, Director of Public Affairs,
Greater Miami Chamber of Commerce.
Mr. Seth Gordon: Mr. Mayor, Commissioners, my name is Seth
Gordon, Director of Public Affairs, Greater Miami Chamber of
Commerce. The Chamber generally, and almost always really,
supports the outdoor advertising industry, mainly for al.
the good reasons that George Knox listed earlier this
corning. fast ' year, when there was a proposal in
Tallahassee to drastically limit the outdoor advertising
industry in Florida, we Worked with the industry to protect
their ability to operate and perform the good public service
that they generally perform, Local billboard cocpanies are
honored members of the Chamber of Commerce We don't like
to be in a pcsiYicn Qf not supporting our gcod ;embers, but
this is one or those rare tines, a"A l told 5ne of th4
fellows frore one of the companies in ;.he lobby earilLsr
said "i think that 9q% of the tide, we'i always to with your
but every now and then, -there'd going to be a tm'me wheal 'Oe
think that we can't, and this is one those ties.�� die
would just ask you not to lift the restridti6ha on that ver=,
limited portion of our community along interstate 05, whe.-
we think: it's not appropriate for that kind of operation.
We think it's true of so Many other types of businesses, No
matter how valid a business night tes it Can't operate
-everywhere. We don't let people operate on tl;e beach iw
Miatli Beach. We don't let airports exist in suburban
neighborhoods, there are all sorts of* instances where a
legitimate, valid, honorable producti•:e business shouldn't
be allowed to operate; and, we think this is one of those
times.
Mayor Ferret, Mr. Goruon, let me ask you. Are you here -
representing yourself or the Chamber of Commerce?
Me. Gordon: The Chamber of Commerce.
Mayor Ferre: So the Chamber
on this?
Mr. Gordon: Yes, sir.
Mr. Freeman: Mr. Dan Paul,
Places.
has taken an official position
representing Arts in Public
Mr. Dan Paul: Mr. Mayor, members of the Commission, my nace
is Dan Paul. My office address is 100 S. Biscayne
Boulevard; my home address is 19 Star :sland, Miami Beach:.
I too can't believe that the City of Miami is really serious
about relaxing billboard restrictions. I re=ember the
original fight, which Mrs. Wainwrignt led to get the
Boulevard clear of billboards. In fact, one of the big
arguments for passing the $39,000,000 ;arks for people bond
issue was to get rid of that great sea of billboards that
went along Biscayne Boulevard over or. the port side. In
fact, if the Commission will remember, he campaign theme as
a matter of fact of that bond issue, showed all of the
citizens committee lined 'up in front cf that billboard and
said "To remove this, pass the parks for people bond issue."
The idea of thinking now about having a proliferation of
billboards on the expressways and major- exits into Miami, I
think is unthinkable. Miami doesn't nerd to be ugly. We're
doing every effort we can to improve the looks of this City.
This would be a great step bankward. one other th4 ng I war;,
to call to your attention, mentioned y you, Cc=missioner
Plummer. That is these restrictions in this supposez
ordinance of 1500 feet on either silo will nct prevent
proliferation. I doubt seriously the: if you pass this
ordinance, that those restrictions wi:: hold up, in court.,.
It will just be the second step for the billboart companies
to go to court and say that this discri=inates, and in fact,
Mr. Knox has- already alluded to that, that this
discriminates in favor of one billboar: company as against
another, who may have property tied up. If you are going to
permit billboards, you don't have any j:;stifiable reason, for
making them 1500 feet apart. So ypu w_tl have them gust as
thick as they can erect them along to expressway in the
next five or six years you are very lik:.y to ha, the..
think that's, something you ought to seriously consider,
because once you open the door and permit billboards to be
erected, limiting them is almost an imTossibilit,:.. 1 cite
no better authority than that from Me, Knox. ,In fact, I
think What we ought to be doing, is locr:i,ng at the -existing
ordinances that we have that permit billboards anywhere i;
this City of Miami and deter-.;*ning ,-,thether ornot we
shouldn't be adopting a program to phaa- those Pk; like the
program we adopted along Biscayne 5owlovrd which :ire frage
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keeps getting extended and eXteCded and extended. I hope I
live in this area long enough to finally see the ordinance
that !firs+ Wainwright put into effect actually cotee in
fruition in those time teaches not tc be eXt=tided. I
strongly urge you not to open the door for any further
billboards in the City of Miami, 'Thank you,
Mayas; Ferre! Mr. Paul, I'd like to give you this
photograph. You will notioe that one of your favorite
clients, the Miami Herald doesn't agree with you in using
billboard advertising.
Mr. Paul: I'm in favor of (INAUDIBLE).
Mr. Carollo: Wait a minute. Did I understand you
correctly, Mr, Paul, that you are going 'to endorse- one of
the motions that I'm going to make very soon to apply the
same rules and regulations that we do to some other
industries to this one here that I passed to my colleagues,
the newspaper ads.
Mr. Paul: Absolutely!
Mr. Carollo: O.K., then I'll call on you at the appropriate
time to support it.
Mr. Freeman: The next speaker is well known to you, past
president of the Miami Board of Realtcrs, past member of
this Commission, Ms. Rose Gordon.
Mayor Ferre: Let me say also that we're always honored to
have our former colleague, Rose Gordon. Sometimes she and I
were on opposite sides of the fence on issues, but I must
say that I've never served with anybody with more intensity
and with someone who expouses noble causes with stronger
vigor than Rose, and Rose, we're always honored to have you
here.
Ms. Rose Gordon: Thank you, Mayor, Commissioners, my name
is Rose Gordon. I live at 1890 South Bayshorte Drive. I
have a real estate office at 2902 Biscayne Boulevard. I'm
really pleased that I have the opportunity to address you
today with regard to the history of the ordinance, because I
also played a part when Alice Wainwright was Commissioner, I
was on the Zoning and Planning Board that reviewed the
ordinance that was adopted in 1965, at which time we felt
then that it was a good ordinance. I feel now that it is a
good ordinance and it does not need amending to permit more
billboards on the expressways. The expressways are no
going to benefit from the view of the billboards. The
people aren't going to benefit from viewing billboards. We
do like the greenery that we can see as we drive along I-95
and on the other expressways in the City. I'm simply hers}_:
to reiterate that the comments that were made by the
previous speakers were all very well spoken and the point
that was made-- on the spacing that could be overruled, I
would remind you that the ,gasoline station ordinance was
amended to remove this spacing requirements some years ago,
because it was considered unconstitutional to regulate the
spacing between private industries. So, again, I ask you to
remember that if you permit this, it's going to be a
proliferation. It's something we don't need. There is no
reason why we need to have billboards. I can't find one
reason. If somebody could give me just' one reason why we
need billboards on the expressways, I would perhaps soften
my view, but I cannot find any, and I hope that you dor,'
find any that you will uphold the ordinance. Than% you,
Mr. Freeman;
Society.
Dr. Kelley, the head of the Tropical Au d bQn
Dr. Robert L— Kelley: I'm fi r. Robert L, kelley;. I I t
president of `tropical Audibon Society. Our headquArters arse
located 54-0 Sunset Drive, Miarti, Florida �314y. Ih,at xs -
located in unincorporated Dade County. I hope thae tr+
Commissioners have received the letter from our Attcrneyj
Joseph C. ple=ing, opposing any changes in this or"dl-.Ance.
I authorized hire to send you a letter on our behalf.
Mayor Perre; Mr. Kelley, just for the record. I do ha` t
that letter and others and I will be placing all of t ;am on
the record. We do, for the record, have Mr. Plem-"in gIs
letter.
Dr. Kelley: Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I am here to reiterate
our opposition to any change in this billboard ordinance.
The Tropical Audibon Society has almost 3,600 members living
in bade County and according to our survey, more that-, half
of them either live or work in the City of Miami. Wo
support the objections trade by Mr. Pancoast, Mrs.
Wainwright, and the other speakers. We really wish that you
would keep these ugly structures off our expressways. I
have lived in the City and in bade County for 24 of the last
27 years. I'm a professor at the University of Mia=: and
have been for twenty years. I visit downtown Miami very
'often on business. I drive I-95 and the other expressways
very often. 1 hope that you can keep them looking the way
that they do now. Thank you.
Mr. Freeman: I'm not sure Mr. Robert Worsham. ..Miami Civic
Club, a coalition of civic interest groups for better
government.
Mr. Robert Worsham: Good morning, thank you, Mr. Fayor,
Commissioners. I'm president of the Miami Civic League.
Our address is 859 N.W. 15th Avenue. The Civic
Association....
Mayor Ferrer I don't think you're stating your name fcr the
record.
Mr. Worsham: Robert Worsham. :he Miami Civic Lea`.e is
composed of various and several civic organiza.ior,s
throughout the City of Miami. This issue was brought before
our last meeting in conference with some -of your other
opponents here to the ordinance. We had a unanimous vote
from all organizations in opposition to changing the
ordinance. We strongly urge you to consider the views ant
the interests of the populace, the people. Thank you ver.
much.
Mayor Ferre: Mr. Worsham, just for the record, so ycs can
clarify, you say that you represent the Miami Civic Clubs.
The last time I looked, some times it existed and soce.imes:
it doesn't, with all due respects. There were fifteen or
twenty different organizations that were a par, of that.
How many organizations does the Miami Civic Association
represent?
Mr. Worsham: The Miami Civic Association, and l a_ the
president of the association, as recent office, we represent
in excess of ten paid community organizations. There are
others that contemplating membership that do attent our -
meetings.
Mayor Ferre; I'm not asking you about the future.
Mr. Worsham; yes, sir, I understand.
Mayor Ferre; of the ten that you do have now. how Many web.,.
present9 You said you were repregen ing the or ganiz rticp..
How many were there to vote for this?
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Mr. Worsham: We had a vote of ax present; the other
members there were communicated with by myself,
Mayor Terre. in other words, you are saying you do speak
for all ten'
Mr. VorshaM: That is dof rect, air.
Mayor Fevre: Thank you, sir.
Mr. Freeman: Mrs. bilette, president of the Sierra Club,
Ms. Mary Teresa Di ette: My name is Mary Teresa Dilette.
I'm a board member for the Miami Sierra Club. On behalf.bf
the 1500 members of the Sierra Club, we gould like to not
rescind the ordinance as it stands on the books and take the
recommendations of the Planning Department. We see across
the Country how the more enlightened states, shall we say,
have chosen to take the billboards down from their highways
and we feel that this is the way that Miami should also
conduct their business. Thank you very ouch.
Mr. Freeman: I apologize, I was afraid I would mispronounce
her name. David Perez, president of the South Florida
-Chapter of the A.I.A.
Mr. David Perez: Mr. Mayor, members of the Commission, my
name is David Perez. I'm the president of the Florida South
Chapter of the American Institute of Architects and have our
headquarters at 1150 S.W. 22nd Street in Miami. I come here
today to stress the official position of our chapter in an
area in which we believe that we have professional_ expertise
and it is the visual integrity of the built environment.
Our chapter would like to voice its concerns regarding the
amendment to the sign regulation. The regulation, under the
existing ordinance, were endorsed by our chapter as a
reasonable and proper sign legislation. We have been very
disturbed with the fact that through the times there would
be a billboard removal and not being effectuated and at this
point we believe have little priority within the City
agenda. The amendments presently before this Commission are
deemed to be further relaxation of the existing billboard
regulations. Our chapter opposes strongly this amendment.
The proposed sign height is excessive and we believe is not
in scale with out urban structure. I think this could
actually become a true eye sore, as you can see here. The
billboard spacing would not necessarily limit the number of
new signs and definitely would impact in the land use
pattern and the changing of the angle, when view in contact
with the other elements of this proposed amendment.
Mayor Ferre: David, excuse me, I don't see any of the
cameras rolling now. Could we turn off these li.ghts? You;'
have no idea how hot it gets under these lights after a
three or four hours. Thank you. Whenever you want them,
we'll put them back on.
Mr. Perez; The changing of the angle, when viewing contacts
with the other parts of the amendment and adding the element
of speed of the highway, it has no merit. Consequently, our
chapter strongly urges this Commission to turn down the
Proposed amendment that will weaken the existing ordinance'
and could lead to the elimination of existing controls,
Thank you very much.
Mayor Ferre; The next speaker.
Mr, Freeman;- Mr. Joseph Abrell, attorney.
Mr. Joseph Abrell For the record, Joseph P. Abrell, my
business address is 25 W. Flagler Street, Mr. Mayor,
Commissioners, when I arrived this morning, it had not been
Ity intention nor had it been my inteh`:iOM td not speak, 8U4
there is a point I think heeds to be Lade twat is not being
1hade► Sighs like this be perMitted in at6-as abutting the
airport t)tpressway, the 36th Street expressway, And 1-95,
while We talk about the aesthetics, the View frota the
exptea sway , the safety Ott the expreasWay, but gentlemen,
there are people who live in the neighborhoods Who art
renters abutting Property 6WnerS up and down those three
thoroughfare and they've going to have to live with that. I
suggest to you that this Commission ought hot require that
'those people live with this. It's ugh•
APPLAUSE.
Mr. Dawkins: May I ask you a question, sir? Hold that up
again, sir. Is that on private or, public property?
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Mr. Abrell: From what 'I cah see, sir, this is on private
property.
Mr. Dawkins: So therefore, that sign could not go there if
the individual did not permit it on his private property.
Am I right?
APPLAUSE
Mr. hbrcll: Yes, sir, but the point I would make to you,
Commissioner Dawkins, is that the people who rent in this
building and the people who Live in abutting properties
don't get economic benefit, but they have to live with it.
Mr. Dawkins: But this is America, and you have the right to
do with your land what you want, if you own it.
Mr. Abrell: No, sir.
Mr. Dawkins: If the owner of that property "gives a right
for that sign to go there, I don't think me, you or anybody
in here should deny that individual that right.
APPLAUSE.
Mr. Abrell: Commissioner, you do that every time you
enforce your zoning ordinance and every time you vote
against the zoning variance request, and the Commission
lawfully did it in 1964, when they adopted the present
ordinance, which is a lawful regulation.
APPLAUSE.
Mr. Freeman: Our last speaker is Mr. Douglas Halls.
Mr. Douglas Halls: My name is Douglas Halls. My office
address is 100 S. Biscayne Boulevard, City of Miami, with
the law firm of Thompson, Zeder, Bohrer, Werth, Adorno, &
Razook. I believe Parker Thompson has written a letter;
it's on your file.'
Mayor Ferre: Yes, it will be placed on the record.
Mr. Halls; Thank you. Our firm for years has been involved
in civic activities relating to the Miami community and Dade
County generally, particularly with respects to Biscayne
Bay. We've made great strides in recent years to overcome
image problems in the City of Miami. Recently we've had
image problems created by civil disturbances, drug traffic,
crime. The Miami image is also reflected in the visual
Image which it portrays. We believe that the ordinance
passed some twenty years ago is an excelient ordinance.
It's worked; it should be kept on the books, There is no
reason; for this Commission now to take a set back. Thank,
you.
Mr. Freeman; Mayor, this coalition was put 'together
haatity, but it does represent, a good cress section of the
economic and the neighborhood and the enviaren--intal interort
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Of Miami, We all do agree that our vistas in this community
need prctedti6M for ed6HOMid as well As envir6hmeMtal and
aesthetic rweAsons. The key to edom6mid vitality is we have
ad sadly demonstrated t0 the world is the perceived life
style that we have. We have an envirohtbehtAl and an
economic personality. We've made lots of alterations in
that personality, partidularly in the last five or six
Years. We are coming back. We are beginning to put our
personality before the world back in shape, but it can't
stand a lot of alterations. The high quality that's
.demanded by citizens and visitors cannot be maintained, much
less avoid degradation with backward steps sudh as this
proposal. Let's out all this civic energy to work and
improve in our great city not beating it down. Thank you.
APPLAUSE.
Mayor Ferre: Are there any more proponent speakers? I'm
sorry, opponent speakers. These are people that are opposed
to the sign ordinance. Any other speakers? All right,
we'll hear from you first-, air, and then from you.
Mr. Frank Martinez: Mr.,Major, Commission, my name is Frank
Martinez, business manager of local union 1175 sign
painters. I've lived in this area since 1930. I think we
have a beautiful city and by putting more billboards in I-
950 I still state that it is a dangerous thing. People
looking at the signs and take their eyes away from the road,
put more signs on the roads and you will have more
accidents. Again, I believe in this City. I've lived here
practically all my life. I want to see a beautiful City. I
cannot see an ordinance passed putting bulletin boards on I-
950 it was left to my people, we would get rid of all
bulletin boards in the City of Miami and Dade County. Thank
you.
Mayor Ferre: Is your union a member of the AFL-CIO?
Mr. Martinez: Yes, sir, it!is.
Mayor Ferre: Let me ask you this. Are you here expressing
your opinion or are your expressing the union's opinion?
Mr. Martinez: I spoke to my board and my board is totally
in favorof my coming here and speaking against this
ordinance.
Mayor Ferre: I see Dan Horton is sitting next to you. Did
this go up to the executive board of the local AFL-CIO?
Mr. Martinez: Ask Da, Horton on that when he comes up here.
I do not know that, but I have spoken to Ed Stevenson, head
of the South Florida AFL-CIO.
Mayor Ferre: My question is are you speaking individually,
for your union,_or for the AFL-CIO?
Mr, Martinez: I'm speaking individually and for my union.
Mayor Ferre: I see, thank you. Mr. Horton.
Mr. Dan Horton: Thank you, Mr. Mayor, Commissioners, Dan
Horton, political director for the South Florida AFL"CZC,
office at 2409 N.W. 17th Avenue. I've appeared in front of
this Commission numerous times in the last few year's, Most
often with our billing trade unions, 1 will tell you first,
Mr. Mayor, that the South Florida AFL-CIO is on record as,
supporting the current law and Opposing any change to it,
I'd like to tale a moment to explain that. We've come
before this Commission numerous times on many project 3 in
this City with many of our -people here on occasion from
these different unions, many of which you all know and many
of which keep their headquarters within the City of Mia.
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and have tetGbers Within the City, We're pretty proud of the
fact that we've helped build major new city in the South;
that's soitething to be proud of. Almost every building in
that skyline has been built with our people providing the
labor to do it, frahkly, it is an aesthetic argument to us,
it truly is • It's a beautiful. skyline and there's no need
to mar it. We've not talking about outlawing an industry.
Your own department tells you there's almost 600 locations
Within the City where these' people can do business, That's
vat Zoning is designed to do. In that somebody had to be
here on toning matters, I submit to you that What an
individual does with their private properties is indeed
their right within Zoning guidelines. Just because I have a
piece of property in the City, that doesn't mean I can build
a 30 story building on it -either, unless T come here and
it's deemed in the public interest and everything is there
to support that facility. The fact is this industry exists
in Miami; it seems to be very profitable. It obviously can
have a lot of people here. The do a good business. There's
nothing wrong with that'. -,But we submit, that after all the
work this Commission and •our people together jointly have
continued to put into ,,this City, that image is more
important to tourism and/our development than anything else
we can do. To mar that'area to obstruct that view from one
.of the few arterial roads where you can still get a clear
view of the City doesn't serve our best interest. The only
other thing I could point out, and I won't use the entire
three minutes, if I did use the entire three minutes, on
1500 foot spacing, I would passed nine of those signs in
three minutes at 55 miles an hour on I-95, assuming they -
were minimally spaced. If I went 11 seconds over, that
would be the tenth sign. That's the kind of image we don't
need to send to people that come down to see this beautiful
City. Thank you.
APPLAUSE.
Mayor Ferre: Are there any other speakers that are
opponents? Yes, sir. Opponent to the sign, those who want
to change the existing law and pass this law on second
reading.
Mr. Richard Rose: Mr. Mayor, Commissioners of the City of
Miami, my name is Richard Rose; I'm an architect developer.
I was born in the City of Miami. If I may, I also am a
property owner at 45 N.W. 46 Street. I would like to read
to you four short lines from a great Chilean poet. I would
like to do so in Spanish and in English.
"Toda la vida es roja y blanca. Toda la claridad
is oscura; y no todo es tierra y adobe. Hay en mi
herencia sombra y suenos."
That translates into four beautiful sentences that I think
have great meaning for us today. The whole of life is red
and white. The clear is also the obscure. Not everything,-:'
is earth and mud. Shadows and dreams are my inheritance. I
think it is incumbent upon us to protect the beauty of this
City nor only :for us who live here today, but for the
children who come tomorrow. Signs are an obliteration upon
the sky, upon the stars, upon the evening, upon the clouds
that this City, has. I would beg you to replace this
amendment with an amendment to plant 10,000 trees in the
City of Miami. Thank you.
APPLAUSE.
Mayor Ferre; Are there any other speakers in opposition?
Now we will hear the proponents. I think there were some
people here that wanted to be speakers for the proponents.
Mr. Plummer; Mr. Mayor, let me only ask you....
Mayor Ferre; Hold pn, J.L. , , are there any people here not -
part of the official group that are official group that are
citizens that Wish to speaks for the ordinance" Please step
'apV ma'am.
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Mr. Plumlht r Mr. Mayor, for a matter of clarification, our,
policy is that the last speaker at noon is the last speaker.
it is your intent to conclude this matter or is it a matter
that we will break as the policy of this Commission's
Mayor Ferre: I think we're very elose, hoWU' ly, Of
Winding this thing up ands voting for it one way car the
other. I think it serves' little purpose to come back at
2t00 o'clock. I would hope that we Gould wind it up now, I
think we're almost there. I think she's the last speaker.
Ms. Rusty Dergean: I'm for passing this billboard
ordinance. I read in the paper yesterday ... my name is Putty
Bergran; I live at 700 Diltmore Way. I do.. live in the City,
of Coral Gables, but I do drive on 1.95.
Mayor Ferre: That's all right. We'll let you speak.
Ms. Bergran: I believe in -free enterprise. I've lived in
Dade County for 16 years.,' I've seen a lot of things change,
the skyline change. From what I've read in the paper, from
where they're going tot put the billboards, they're not
really going in residential areas. I've also seen people
like the Miami Herald and also various chambers of commerce
use these billboards. We've also used them to fight in
community causes, such as drunk driving, which I think is
very important to advertise these needs. We've also used
them for policemen appreciation and tourism benefits. I
don't think they're a blight on our City. I think they help
our City economically quite a lot. Accidents that people
are saying that are going to happen, they've only been by a
guess by the Planning Board. I haven't seen any statistics
by them except by the people that own the billboards.
They've shown statistics that they haven't been proved to
happen. That's all really I have to say.
APPLAUSE.
Mayor Ferre: Are there any other speakers that are
proponents. Please step up; don't be bashful. We're nct
going to —we're trying to save a little time, so move right
along.
Mr. John Dawson: Mr. Mayor, Commissioners, my name is John
Dawson. I live in Miramar Isles. I'm here as a guest of a
Miami busine_-:sman. I've been in Florida now 29 years. I
drive over 55,000 miles a year. I've never had a chargeable
accident in this state and I don't see all this hubbub abcut
the billboards causing accidents. I think my record speaks
for itself. It may or may not mean anything. Thank you.
APPLAUSE.
Mayor Ferre: Anybody else, any other public speakers?--'''
Please step up. After this I'm going to ask for a motion to
close off the public portion of this and then when we get to
the final arguments and to the Commission questions.
Mr. Susacasa: I own property in the City of Miami. I
really think the signs are O.K.; I like those next to the b
95 because I see other cities and they have then and it
really looks good. That's all I can say. Susacasa is MY
name,
Mayor Ferre; Is there anything else you want to say? Than;4
you. Are there any more public speakers at this time? If
there are not, is these a motion to close the public
hearing?
Mr. P31immer; Are you going to give him a rebuttal?
M:aVQr Ferre; Xeg, but those are representatives
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mr. Plummer: So move.
Mayor Forre., I will reCiSgni2e at the invitation Of the
Chair or members of the CbMMi68i6h We'll give eadh of these
two sides, and Mr. Freeman, you'll have to choose who your
spokesman is, yourself or whomever you wish, to fiM&li2&_
this debate before we get to questions from the Comm saiom,
gut what f'm trying to do is try to avoid further discussion
from members of the public.: Is there a second?
,Mr. Carollo: 86cond.
Mayor Ferre: Further discussion? Call the roll.
THEREUPON MOTION DULY MADE AND SECOMMO THE
PUBLIC PORTION OF THE P�8 LIC HEARING WAS CLOSED BY
THE FOLLOWING VOTE:/
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissionew J.,'L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Mayor Maurice A/. Ferre
-NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
Mayor Ferre: All right, Mr. Knox, for your closing
statement.
Mr. Knox: Thank you very much, Mr. Mayor, and again, I will
be brief. There is a great value in formulating and
endeavoring to persuade public opinion through use of
special interest groups, which is laudable and a part of the
American way. But there is a question we would have this
Commission consider, of context in the sense that what may
be aesthetically pleasing to one may not be aesthetically
pleasing to another. There are those, for example, who at
one point in the City's history, enjoyed driving along I-95
to receive what has been called today a high level view' of
the City of Miami and found some source of strength or
encouragement from observing travertine marble buildings
arising along Biscayne Boulevard. Today, those persons
cannot see those travertine buildings because they are
obscured by what those persons would call visual pollution.
There are those who have traveled 150 miles southward,on the
Turnpike who intermittently have been advised that there is
rest and respite at the 79th Street Holiday Inn and by the
time they arrive at the exit, they don't know that they have
arrived.Those persons who are seeking information about
lodging are those persons who are lost in endeavoring to
find a place to rest, would not find information signs to be. -.--
visual pollution. The question is whether or not the
touring public and even our citizens may have benefit of
information about attractions and perhaps life-saving
,information that is provided by outdoor advertising. The
last question represents a burden on this government as with
any government. That burden is to show our. most
overwhelming Justification for supporting a system of
regulation that denies one classification of persons, equal
protection of the laws, by providing opportunities and
privileges to others who occupy that same classification,
We ask thi3 Commis ion what is reasonable, correct, and
right, Thank you.
APPLAI;5E,
Mr. Freeman. We're not really here arguing about whether or
not we're going to have billboards. We're simply talXi g
about the degree to which in, the test interest of all the
citizens of this area billboards Should be replat:ed. Since
1964 we have used the present system, There is no mandate
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of the cititehry nor ho value in change and there are rgany
detrimthtt, We urge you clot to chahge it.
Mayor perre! All right, we're at the level of the
Commission questions, and 1 would like to ask that you limit
this strictly to questions rather than comments until we get
the question portion through, and then I'll reoognize you
for Comments, ouestions. ,
Mr. Plummer. Mr. Mayor, mine are mostly comments.
Mayor Ferre! Any questions at this time?
Mr. Dawkins! I have some, but I don't know who to ask them,
Mr. Mayor.
Mr. Plummer. Let me ask a question. I don't know whether I
want to ask it of the Aepartment or of the City Attorney. I
had never seen that one billboard that was shown there, the
True. That, to me, I ,want to tell you, is just completely
out of question. Madam City Attorney, is there a way that
if I vote for this, that we can, in fact, not permit this
kind of a sign, but that as we know of normal outdoor
advertising? Can we so write that into the ordinance?
Mrs. Dougherty: Yes, sir, I'm not sure that it isn't
already. Is it already?
Mr. Plummer: The only other question I have, Mr. Mayor...
Mayor Ferre: By normal you mean just that they would have
two sides rather than three sides?
Mr. Plummer: Well, show the other one what I consider to be
the norm, those that normally exist, I've never seen
anything like that before.
Mayor Ferre: Maybe that's..,. -is that normal?
Mr. Plummer: I assume that would be called a tio-
sided...no, not the Kent, the Kent is the same as the True,
the daikin as shown by Mr.. Paneoast.
Mrs. Dougherty: Can you have more than one place?
Mr. Carollo: In other words, you're saying like this one
here the Miami Herald paid for, right Commissioner?
Mr. Plummer: No, sir that's not what I said. In other
words, Madam City Attorney, we can then in fact prohibit
that kind of a situation. Is that true?
Mrs. Dougherty: Yes, sir.
Mr. Plummer: My other question is to the industry and not
to any other, _because it is my understanding there are
probably four or five or six different companies involved
and I don't know if any one can speak for those. One of the
things that I'm very much interested in is we did with the
bus bench advertising, I think it was very good for this
City. That is that we demanded and received a certain
allotment of bus benches for public service announcements or
public service good. Madam City Attorney, how would 1, if
this were to be approved, extract that on behalf of this
community or this City requiring that they must provide
public service announcements. The ordinance that was passed
by the state, I have no problem with as far a.$ tourist
relation and things of that nature. Is it permissible that
we can write that into the ordinance? If that's what YOU
want or a sign that says, "It's lunch time, Let's go to
lunch, 11 I remember the industry before volunteered it. 13
that what I'm lcQking for here that they would volunteer, its
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How would you, when there is a Number of tbMpahi3s, Mow
Would you get the sane ektradtions from &11, if that's
�5ossble'? .
Mrs. Dougherty; Mr. Commissioner, the other industry
volunteered it. The reason they volunteered it, is because
that was a contract toning. I don't know of any way you
` could impose it on all of the industry.
Mr. Dawkins: Madam City Attorney, along the same lines,
.l've looked at five different configurations of Sig-s along
the same lines of what J.L. said. How do we, if this
passes, regulate the signal That is have one uniform sign,
one uniform size and that's it.
Mrs. Dougherty: Mr, C,ommi'ssioner, like all regulations,
when you snake distinctions 'between one kind of sign and
another one when you are passing these kinds of regulations,
it has to be on a rational basis. This record is going to
have to reflect the rea'so'ns why you want a particular Size,
sign, or a particular sided sign as opposed to a three -sided
sign. So in order for your regulations to be reasonable,
you are going to reflec6.' in the record the basis for those
regulations,
Mr. Dawkins: Let me put on the record now that the three
sided monster is unsightly, unwanted, and unneeded.
Mayor Ferre: That's objective. You got to make it more....
Mr. Dawkins: Well, she says state my ... go ahead, Maurice.
Maurice is going to tell us how we can do it. Go ahead.
Mayor Ferre: No, I don't know how to do it.
Mr. Dawkins: I mean how we should do it.
Mayor Ferre: I think the point is that what you're saying
is that it's ugly and unsightly and all that is a very,
subjective opinion, because the opponents can say we feel
the same way about the two-sided one as the three -sided one.
I think you have to put some specific language, and I think
it has to do with bulk. Lucia, help me on this. I think,
is there a cogent, legal argument that could be made on
bulk. In other words, the magnitude of the size. I think
we have a right to regulate. Don't we?
Mrs. Dougherty: Yes, you can regulate the size, ncL the
content, but the size, yes.
Mr. Dawkins: So if I said we don't want anything larger
than nine by ten on one side. Is that legal?
Mrs. Dougherty: If there is a reason for it, if you have a
rational basis for that, and that should be a plane ng or
safety....
Mr. Dawkins; If I say I wanted a nine by ten and rcthing
more and I think it's rational, you show me where it's
irrational.
Mrs. Dougherty: I can't show you where it's irrationa:.
Mr. Plummer: I think what he's saying is sh,ow me wha.
s • a R . '
Mr. Knox: I think I can help a little bit, if YO'I so
desire, Mr. Mayor, members of the Commission.
Mr, Dawki.nz: Not I don't need anything from ; you, You
better keep quiet while you're'winning,
Mr. Plummer: Madam City Attorney, l think that the thing
that is trying to be said is, what is the rational used
today for the existing billboards to be in existing size.
Is it that they shall not exceed a certaih width and lengthl
It it they shall not be more than two -faded Or 6me-faced?
Is that a rational? is that a justification?
Mrs. Dougherty: Yes, the; ordinances are presumed valid.
You're the legislative body, You're the one that have the
responsibility for passing reasonable ordinances. When you
.do pass such an ordinance, they're presumed valid, and the
other side has the burden of proving the unreasonableness of
it. Obviously, some size signs are going to be too large.
There's going to have to be a paint in which you all have to
decide what is the right' dine sign given the context of
where it`s going to be. 1 _
Mr. Dawkins: One more. question:
Mrs: Dougherty: Of course, Aesthetics is always a basis for
that. '
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Mr: Dawkins: One more ,question to the Manager or anybody
you can designate to answer. How does the City of Miami
.advertise?
Mr. Rosencrantz: Mr. Commissioner, it depends upon the
particular subject that we're talking about. If you're
talking about advertising for tourism, for promotion....
Mr. Dawkins: Billboards, does the City of Miami use
billboards outside of Miami to advertise to draw tourists?
Mr. Plummer: Outside?
Mr. Dawkins: Outside of the City of Miami.
Mr. Rosencrantz: I don't 'believe that we do, but I don't
know for sure whether we do or not. But it's never come to
my attention that we've used billboards as a place to
advertise, but it would be possible that we could.
Mr. Plummer: But I think the point he's trying to make is
all of us have traveled the turnpike and I-95 and from about
the Georgia line down, private industry is doing one hell of
a job to get people to come beyond Orlando. As you know and
I know, 369000,000 people in 1982 came into the State of
Florida. Only 12,000,000 or one third of them came further
south than Orlando. The idea that this community sells sand
and surf, they can go one hour trip over to Daytona and go
back home where if they go to Disney World and then come
here, it's an additional four hours down and an additional
four hours back. I want to tell you that the hotel.:..
industry, the restaurant industry have done one hell of a
job from the Georgia line to Orlando, everything humanly
possible to get -people to go beyond Orlando further south.
I think that's the point whether we, the City, are doing it
if we had the money. Private industry along the turnpike
and I-95 is doing one hell of a job to do it.
Mayor Ferre; What's your question?
Mr. Plummer; No, I'm just trying to say that I feel that is
existing today.
Mayor Perre; We're not in comments yet, We'll Have plenty
of time for that, Any further questions? Hearing none, now
we're into comments, Plummer, continue to comment,
Mr, Plummer; Mr, Mayor, let We say there's three areas that
I really want to speak to in' this particular case. The
first is well known and long thpwght, coy defense of private
enterprise. We're not here today to argue the point of are
we going to or not going to, the point is are we going to
possibly expand or trot expand? That comes to my sedond
point. My second point is the gentleman spoke, Jot I think
it was, of the concern of residents and their concerns. It
is my understanding, as proposed before us today that these
sigms would only be allowed in a commercial district, not in
a residential district. The next area that I speak to is
that of safety. I don't' have statistics. I've heard
statistics given, whether or not they are correct, I'm not
,in a position to argue for or against. What I will argue
for is that these, if allowed, would not be allowed to be of
a distracting nature and let pie clarify for the record,
there are billboards that have flashing lights, there are
billboards that have moving. parts, like hands waiving, and
to me that would be distracting: It would be a' safety
factor. Mr: Mayor, the final comment that I want to make or
the comparison that 1: want to draw is a convention center
that we are presently having a $6.2 million subsidy to every
year. How many times,h�ve you and 1 gone to that convention
center to see some very ;fantastic events and the place is
half full. You speak: to people later and they were not
aware that event, whatever it was even took place.
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RECORD.
Mr. Plummer: Excuse me? Well, that's their problem. Mr.
Mayor, in Houston, Texas where I went and studied the
Astrodome, and they do make money on the Astrodome. They
have public service billboards throughout that community
that show a 30 day event calendar. The people of Houston
have the opportunity at all times to know what is going on
in the Houston Astrodome if they wish to attend. In the
final analysis what I'm saying is I think there can be a
beneficial point to the outdoor advertising. Like anything,
it must be done in moderation and it must be done in good
taste. I think that is what we must be addressing ourselves
to. Thank you.
APPLAUSE.
Mayor Ferre: Other comments? Are we ready for a motion',
then? Is there a motion?
Mrs. Dougherty: Do you want your amendments?
Mr. Plummer: I would like to clarify these points, Mr.
Mayor, that I brought up.
Mayor Ferre: Sir, I'm following the same process I always
follow. I ask for questions, I ask for comments. After
everybody has made their comments? I ask for questions and
then we vote. You made a comment. I asked further-
comments. Nobody spoke up, so I'm ready for motions now.
If you want to put motions to amend it to two sides, that
there be no flashing or distracting elements, that the sizes
be limited, and that it be public service billboards, I
recognize you for that purpose,
Mr. Plummer: Madam City Attorney, assist me of suoh a
motion,
Mrs, Dougherty: Mr, Commissioner, if you look at page 2,
section 202615•1, it ,can be amended to state the area of the
outdoor advertising sign shall not exceed 750 square feet
for each surface. Then additional language, such surfaces
shall be limited to two, including embellishments, If an-y
such sign and embeli3hment are measured as provided in
section 203,Such signs shall not contain f lashin& ligt is
or any mQving parts, With respect to the public' service
messages, Mr. Commissioner, that would be..,
Mayor Ferret. Lucia, this is Dawkina' statement, so he -tan
get into it, but you're goifig a 1111e fast now, He said
nine by teh; that's ninety square feet. You're to ping
about 75©.
Mrs. Dougherty,. That's the exiating ordinance, 750, It you
want to reduce it, that's fine,
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Mr. Plummer: Excuse me Mr. Mayor, how do you amen: a
motion that hasn't passed? tsn't it proper that a
motion....
Mayor Ferret. No, legislatively what you do is there is
proposed document before you on second reading; thereforto
for you to change that, you must make, this is a sec --Ad
reading. There is a proper document before you. You must
now make motions to amend the document. I recognize you f'or
that purpose,
Mr. Plummer: I stand cbrrec,ted.
Mayor Ferret The language I have ,just read has three
amendments limited to t«+o surfaces, no flashing lights, and
no moving parts. The' public service messages is not a
.permissible regulation.
Mr. Knox: May I address that please?
Mr. Carollo: Can we include, sorry, George, something to
the effect that as far as the structure is built for the
billboard, there would not be a structures allowed to be
built with the wooden poles like this Herald billboard is
in? You have several kinds that are built. You have sc=e
that have the steel structure, which are the safest ty;e.
They are also much more expensive than this type, but
they're the safest type.
Mayor Ferre: Wait, Joe, that now is a fifth amendment you
want to make to it. In other words, what you're saying is
you want to add into this that these structures be steel or
concrete and that no wooden posts be a'Llowed. Is that it?
Mr. Carollo: I don't believe, at least I don't know of a::;
that are made out of concrete. I think....
Mayor Ferre: Steel structures.
Mr. Carollo: ....the structures, the modern type that s
the safest. '
Mayor Ferrer No wood structures.
Mr. Carollo: No wood structures.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, is it proper that I offer my three
amendments and ask for a vote and then we go to the other
individual amend -cents that are proffered by Commissioners?
Mayor Ferre: Sure, yes, sir.
Mr. Plummer: I proffer those three and then I wou-.=
understand from you, Madam City Attorney, if there is to tp
any proffering from the industry, it must be on a voluntary
basis.
Mrs. Aouaherty By each company.
Mayor Ferre; See, if you have five companies, One compar.,,
may want to do it and the other company won't have any
interest in doing it, sp you can't ;force them to do it, is
what she's saying. In the case of the bw5 benches*,*,'
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Mrs. Dougherty. That wag on the public right of way,
Mayor Ferret *.,.we had an EFp it wag Public Propettyl th4a
is private~ and there was an RFP out and we said all right,
we'll give you a license for a right to put up these bus
benches and here's what we Want. But this is difrerant.
Mr. Plummer: Madam City Attorney, tell me how to accomplish
thaI i
Mrs- Dougherty: Mr. Commissioner, you Gant accom0:115h
that.
Mr. Knox! May I address that's
Mayor Ferret All right.,
Mr. Knox! On behalf oi' E.A.-Hancock Advertising, I've been
authorized to advise the Commission that E.A. Hancock wail
certainly adhere to any; policy of the Commission that
whatever privileges ' it is granted by virtue of your
legislative discretion,,: it recognizes a cor.currer,t
obligation to provide benefits to the public. Because of
their expertise, that benefit would of course be in working
with the City and its staff to insure that public ser•�_ce
announcements or other kinds of advertisement for the City
of Miami would be provided.
Mayor Ferret George, let's define that, because that's, and
I commend you and your client for your generosity, but I
think we need to get specific. How many signs, if this
thing passes, how many signs will be allowed to be built on
the highway?
Mr. Knox: As I understand it, we're talking about
approximately six 'miles of roadway where our signs will be
permitted.
Mayor Ferret So at the maximum, they went and got every
sign they could get on every legal location, how many signs
would we have?
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: The most you could put up, Mr. Mayor,
would be about seventeen signs, if you got every location.
Mayor Ferre: Seventeen, so the question is following what,
is it your amendment of public service?
Mr. Plummer: I'd like to, but....
Mr. Plummer: To what Plummer is saying of the seventeen
signs, what proportion of those would have public
advertisement, public service ads at one time?
Mr. Knox: That is a detail that can be worked out. I think
a kind of a numerical or even a monetary basis could be
worked out in order to accomplish that.
Mayor Ferret George, we're on second reading. So, once we
pass'this, you have vested rights. We need to get that kind
of pinned down and defined.
Mr, Carollo: I have to ask a question. Did I understand.
correctly that in the whole area of this being brought up
for a change, that the most signs that you can place is
approximately 17 signs?
Mr. Knox; Yea, sir.
Mr. Carollo; I don't understand the,....seventeen signs is
nothing, We have hundreds of signs all .over this City.
Mr. Whipple. We would suggest that is hot an acdurate
Assessment of what could be placed along the expressway,
The map in front of you in the red dolor showa the areas
that will be available for billbdaed:8.
Mayor Ferre: What is your opinion?
Mr. Whipple! It would allow at least fifty billboards in
our opinion. '
Mayor Ferre: Fifty billboards.
Mr. Whipplet Fifty sites for billboards.
Mr. Knox. There is a difference of opinion about that, but
to answer the original question, Mr. Mayor," if we talk about
that and if we talk 'about the rent structure usually
associated with that, then- we're talking about probably
$50,000 worth of advertising that would benefit the City of
Miami.
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Mayor Ferre: Mr. Knox,' C6 mmissioner Plummer has bought up a
cogent point and that is/ deals with public messages on
these 50 or. 17 billboards. So, he has turned to the City
Attorney and said, please give me a way to accomplish
legislatively what I want to do legally. That's the
question that I want you to address yourself to. You can
speak for the Hancock Company; but can you speak for Ackerly
and can you speak for any of the other advertising
companies?
Mr. Knox: No, sir, but I do suggest that if you have an
announced legislative policy of expecting a benefit to
accrue to the City, if the City confers the benefit, then
everybody would have to live with that policy.
Mayor Ferre: Unless they take us to court and in the court
of course, we couldn't enforce it.
Mr. Plummer: Repeat that, Mr. Knox.
Mrs.
Dougherty:
I heard .it.
I heard it. You dor't have
to...
What you
are suggesting
is to pass a resolution and
say
that this is
what we'd like
from the industry.
Mr. Knox: No, I'm suggesting that you make a policy
statement that when people receive benefits from the City of
Miami, they have a corporate duty or a civic duty to provide
some reciprocal benefit to the City of Miami. •
Mayor Ferre: That's like saying, all right, Barnett Bank, -
since you have banking offices in Miami and you do well, you
ought to help the United Way.
Mr. Plummer: Wait a minute, let me try this one on. For
every billboard erected that every permit granted that they
have to give us X number of months per year for public
service announcements. Is that within the realm allowed?
Mrs, Dougherty; No.
Mr. Knox: They don't have to, but they volunteer to.
Mrs. Dougherty; There is no way to enforce it, If the;,,
voluntarily do it, that's to the City's benefit, but there.
.s no way to enforce that kind of regulation,
Mr. Plummer; There is no way that I can accept....
Mayor Ferre: Mr. H ancocks do you want to talk to the i3sue?
Mr. Plummer.. I can't accept their volunteer and have all
the rest of them get gdbt free and not do anything. That's
not fair, absolutely not fair.
Mayon Ferret Mr. Hancock, senior or juniors
Mr. Charlie HA neock! It's hard for me to stand here and say
what the other peoplee in the industry would do.
Mr. Plummer: You can't.
Mr. Hancock: I can't, but we have permits in here for six
locations, all we Would get out of this because of the
spacing. I have told George that we would give $50,000 a
` year in advertising to the City.
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Mr. Plummer: But do yoo understand our dilemma?
Mr. Hancock: I understand what you are trying to do.
Mr. Plummer: No, blit do you understand our dilemma? Our
dilemma is that's fine with you, and it's generous on your
part, but what about `the other four, or five or six
companies, how do we say to them, O.K., you want to be fair
with us, we want to be fair with you. How do I get over
that? That's my problem.
Mr. Hancock: I can't answer for them.
Mr. Knox: You have been quite successful over the past
eight years that I've observed you in....
Mr. Plummer: Yes, but that was for black olive trees.
Mayor Ferre: The problem, see, that's very nice, George,
but every time Plummer extracts black olive trees from
people, they're getting something at that point. They're
coming in here saying we want this alley, closed. Then, we
end up with 500 more black olive trees. That's fine, but
the point is that once this thing is passed on second
ordinance and you have a veQted right, Gene may be talking
about six sites that he has in mind. There are eleven
othersaccording to. his count, according to the City's
count, there were a total of 50. If he has six, there are
44 others and the question, I think, is that they don't have
to come and ask for anything. All they need to do is get
the locations and put up the signs. They could say, "We
didn't know about the legislative intent. We weren't at the
meeting. We didn't read the newspaper story." Five years
from now, six years from now, nobody is going to remember
any of this.
Mr. Carollo: I think we should send them a notice and. —
advertise their notice.
Mayor Ferre: -Whatever it is, let's get on with this,
because we need to get down. Plummer, how do you want to
word this?
Mr. Carollo: Madam Attorney, will it be legal for us to'
place a notice as to what the intent would be, to place a
notice in the appropriate publications that we advertise in
then, all the known billboard companies in South Florida
send theca a written notice also.
Mrs. Dougherty: Yes, sir.
Mayor Ferre; It would have to be when they pu=i a permit
You know, fifteen years from now, they're not going to
rememer tQo much of what happened here today.
Mrs. Dougherty) Mr, Vice MaYOr, I meahi Mr. Vice Mayor, YOU
can put a Notice iho but the problem is again ehforddability
of it.
Mayor repre. Make your Motion* Plummer► on this issue,
whatever it is•
Mr. Plummer, Mr. Mayor, on the three amendments that I
would want, I spoke to what was the d.evices....
Mayor Ferret Whatl
Mrs. Doughertyt No flashing lights or moving parts and the
surfaces would be limited to two.
Mr. Plummer: All right. i offer those two amendments, if
that is in order.
Mayor Ferre: Is there a second?
Mr. Dawkins: Second.
Mayor Ferre: Further discussion on the two amendments as
proffered? Call the roll.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner
Plummer, who moved its adoption:
MOTION NO. 85-181
1 A MOTION AMENDING PROPOSED SECOND
READING ORDINANCE, SEC. 20269 ART. 20
�( (OR. 9500) "SIGNS - GENERAL &
SUPPLEMENTARY REGULATIONS" REGARDING
BILLBOARDS, ETC., BY INSTRUCTING THE
PLANNING DEPARTMENT TO AMEND SAID
ORDINANCE TO STATE THAT THERE SHALL BE
E NO FLASHING LIGHTS OR MOVING PARTS ON
THE FACE OF BILLBOARDS AND THAT THE
CONSTRUCTION OF BILLBOARDS SHALL CONTAIN
NO MORE THAN TWO FACES.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Dawkins, the motion
was passed and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, my other one I don't know how to
overcome.
Mayor Ferre; Well, I think you have to put it on a best try
effort. I don't see that you can do it any pater way.
Mr. Dawkins; Let me ask a question of Mr. Knox, Mr. Knox,
how many miles of I-95 are we discussing?
Mr. Knox: Let me have Charlie Hancock to explain that.
Mr. Charlie Hancock: My name is Charlie Hancock, Hancock
Advertising. I've made 'a map here to indicate and show to
you exactly where billboards can be built and cannot. if
you will notice, everything that is done in red is where you
are not allowed to peat a billboard. If you will notice, it
is moat of the area in all this City, As a matter of fact,
you can see it is severely limited as to where you tan put
billboards and they're only in industrials do=dreial, and
waterf rorit industrial, 'those are the only areas that a6uid
be built. Red is when you Cannot build, yellbw is where
You can build.
Mr. baw trot: How many riles is it that you can build'
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Mr. Hantotk: I haven't Figured out the miles, Commissioner.
It' a Approximately... .
Mr. Dawkins: What limits you to six boards, revery boards!
Mr. Hancock: It's just a. matter of spacing and leasing is
probably all we would come out with when .we get down with
the permit process were lot of other companies are
involved.
Mr. Dawkins: So the other companies, what it is is a
bidding process. r 'j
Mr. Hancock: Well, they; ve already done their leasing and
they'll be in there to';' get permits and that process has
already taken peace.
Mr. Dawkins: So in other words, you are in here fighting a
battle for some guys who have already some permits and
they're sitting back and are going to get rich while you
guys are setting billboards.
Mr. Walter Pierce: No, that's not true. That's a ball face
lie. No one has gotten permits on any of these signs.
Mayor Ferre: Plummer, do you want to establish your motion?
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I don't know whether I'm really
accomplishing anything or not, but in talking with the City
Attorney, there is only one way that I know of that we can
accomplish what we're trying to do, and that is that each
permit would have to go through the procedure of coming
before this Commission.
Mayor Ferre: Plummer moves that each permit be individually
reviewed by this Commission and that the legislative intent
be clarified so that it is .legislatively the intent of th_s
Commission that on a voluntary basis those who pull these
permits will realize that they have a civ-c
responsibility....
Mr. Plummer: It's more than that, for the record.
Mayor Ferre: Make your motion so we can move.
Mr. Plummer: What do you call it? We used to call it a" .
conditional use.
Mrs. Dougherty:- It's a special exception, you can go to the
Zoning Board for a recommendation....
Mr. Plummer: A special that all permits would require a
special exception use, which would prompt a hearing before
the....
Mrs. Dougherty: Zoning Board and the City Commission.
Mr, Plummer: Correct.
Mrs, Dougherty: I'm just advising their right, That's the
only way to do it, but it has to go knack to the Planning
Board, because this is a land.use right,
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Mayor rerr d! 18 there a sedond to that m6ti6h ? Is there a
sedond to Plulmer's Motion'? Dawkins aeoonda. Fur t►)er
diacusaion on the motion? Call the roil;
The following motion; was introduced by Cbmmiagiomer
Plutrimer t who moved its adoption!
MOTION! NO. 85- 1 82
A MOTION AMENDING PROPOSED SECOND
READING ORDINANCE, SEC, 20260 APT. 20
(OPD. 9500) "SIGNS i. GENERAL &
SUPPLEMENTARY REGULATIONS" REGARDING
BILLBOARDS, ETC., BY INSTRUCTING THE
PLANNING DEPARTMENT TO AMENrt SAID
ORDINANCE TO STATE THAT THERE SHALL BE
NO FLASHING NIGHTS OR MOVING PARTS ON
THE FACE OF 8ILL80ARDS AND THAT THE
CONSTRUCTION OF BILLBOARDS SHALL CONTAIN
NO MORE THAN NO PkCES.
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Upon being seconded by Commissioner Dawkins, the motion
was passed and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mice -Mayor Joe Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
1 ABSENT: None.
Mrs. Dougherty: Mr. Mayor, this would require the entire
ordinance to go back to the Planning Board now.
Mayor Ferre: So, in other words, we're back to first
reading.
Mrs. Dougherty: You are going to have to refer it to -the
Planning Board for consideration as a zoning ordinance.
Mayor Ferre: I understand. What other amendments do you
have, Plummer?
Mr. Plummer: No, sir.
Mayor Ferre: Other amendments, Miller? What happened do
the size issue? Do you want to leave that alone?
Mr. Carollo: I have an amendment. The amendment is that
there be no wooden structures and that each billboard that
would be built would be limited to only one steel pole to
hold the structure. In other words, you don't want six or
five poles holding it up, just one structure.
Mayor Ferre: Is there a second to that?
Mr. Carollo: What is that called?
Mr. Knox; It's called a unipole}
Mr. Carollo; A one unipoie.
Mr. Knox: Uni.pole construction.
Mayor Ferree; A unipQle, O.K. Is there further discussion
on. the unipole amendment? Gall the roll,
The following motion; w4s. introduced by Commla;loner
Carollo, who moved its adoption,
MOTION No. 85-183
A MOTION AMENDING PROP08tb 88Cd';D
REAbING ORDINANCE, SEC. 2026, AR',. 20
(ORD. 9500) "SIGNS GENERAL &
SUPPLEMENTARY REGULATIONS" REGARDINO
EILLBOARDS` ETC.; SY INSTRUCTING THE
PLANNING DEPARTMENT TO AMEND SAID
ORDINANCE SY INCORPORATING REGULATI01;5
REOUIRINt THAT ALL FUTURE CONSTRUCT'Ititi
OF BILLBOARDS WHICH ARE LOCATED WITH N
CITY LIMIT'S SHALL BE OF A UNIPOLE-TYPE
CONSTRUCTION ( ONE POLE TO HOLD THE
BILLBOARD STPUCTOPE)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Dawkins,
was passed and adopted' by the following vote -
AYES., Commissioner beirietrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Joe �Carollo
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
the motion
Mayor Ferre: Are there any further amendments to this?
Mr. Knox: Can we please understand the Plummer acendment?
Mr. Plummer: The Plummer amendment is simple. You're
getting something. This community wants something back.
The only way we will require that this Commission on an
individual basis will require certain types of landscaping,
certain types of other amenities, like black olive trees,
that's the only way that we can do it and be in the interest
of fair to uniformly apply the code to all people that are
interested in pulling permits.
Mr. Knox: Has the City Attorney, therefore, opined that in
order to make these cosmetic changes to the ordinance, it
must go back to the Planning Advisory Board?
Mr. Plummer: Unfortunately, yes.
Mayor Ferre: What in effect happens, then, is like we did
Park West/Overtown, this then becomes first reading, which
means we have to come back with a second reading, after
these substantial changes have been put in the legal
language, '
Mr. Knox: Then that raises the problem that the Hancocks
have suffered for the last approximately eighteen months.
That is that the time requirement, the ninety day rule, will
now operate against them, as I understand it.
Mr. Plummer: No, you speak to that.
Mrs. Dougherty: This will be a new ordinance aga n. This
will be a brand new ordinance. It will go back, to first
reading again, so you are not going to be any.,..
Mayor Ferre: The answer is there is no damage on the 90 day
rule, as I understand the City Attorney's interpretation?
Mr. Dawkins: Can it come up as an emergency and have first
and second reading at the oame' time?
Mayor Ferre:
Mrs. b6ughertyt This will be no emetgenoy; it will be fiwat
and second reading. This is a brand new Ordinance initiated
by the City dommiasion to the Plahhing Rbard,
Mr. Plummer: Let me ask this question, Sergio or Whipple or
whomever in the department, would this be back before us in
the March meeting? l
Mv. Sergio Rodriguez: No.
Mayor Ferre: that do you mean"?
Mr. Sergio Rodriguez: Because we have to go
PAR, and we have to advertise properly. and
procedures. ,
Mayor Ferre: When would it be back?
Mr. Rodriguez: April. t '
back to the
follow the
Mr. Knox: That would represent the second anniversary of
this matter before the Commission.
Mr, Plummer! George, do you have an idea? Anybody has an
idea? You know what I'm trying to accomplish. Y think it
is fair. I think it is just and due and owed to this City.
I don't know how to overcome it otherwise.
Mr. Knox: Well, the problem, Commissioner, as I see it, is
that in any event, there would still be some voluntary
undertaking on the part of the individual involved.
Mr. Plummer: That volunteer action then would be decided by
this Commission.
Mr. Knox: But what you've.,done is you haven't accomplished
the need or desire to make that voluntary presentation.
Mr. Plummer: No, sir, we don't have to do that. To do that
would be an illegal entry,into the ordnance. That would be
discrimination.
Mr. Knox: So what, in effect, then is that it appears that
the Plummer motion accomplishes is that it compares
applicants for permits to come before the City Commission in
order to voluntarily provide some service.
Mr. Plummer: No, sir, that's not. George, quit putting
words in my mouth. It .would require that each permit drawn
would stand on.its own as an individual permit. It would be
reviewed by this Commission. This Commission would then
make the decision as to yes or no on an individual site,
period. George, you read into that; I know what you're
doing. You can't do that.
Mayor Ferre: Are we ready on the main ordinance on first
reading?
Mrs. Dougherty: No, sir, Mr. Mayor, we're referring the
entire thing back to the Planning Board. What we're doing
is initiating a new ordinance before the PAS,
Mayor Ferre: So we need a motion to that effect.
Mrs. Dougherty: Correct.
Mayor Ferre. Who moves it?
Mr. Plummer: I have no oboice but to Offer. I don't want
�, to offer it, but I have no choice.
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Mayor Peree: Is there a seconds
Mrs. Dawkins: I second.
Mayor Ferre., Further discussion`? Before we vote, any
comments before vt5ting? Go ahead.
Mr. Knox% Juat one, is therl*e a tolling or a status quo with
respedt to applications currently on file?
Mayor Ferre: What does that mean?
Mrs. Dougherty! Mr. Mayor, the Hancock, I believe, has many
applications on file and they're going to be treated just
like they would be before. ', You can keep them there.-- That
doesn't mean, that they are going to be taken in that order,
but they can still remain in the building permit department,
just like they have been.
Mayor Ferre: Are we ready to vote now? All right, call the
roll.
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The. following motit`on was introduced by Commissioner
Plummer, who moved its adoption:
MOTION NO. 85y-184 '
A MOTION REFERRING A PROPOSED SECOND
READING ORDINANCE AMENDING SEC. 2026,
ART 20, . (ORD. 9500) "SIGNS",
"BILLBOARDS", ETC. BACK TO THE PLANNING
ADVISORY BOARD FOR CONSIDERATION OF
CERTAIN AMENDMENTS MADE ON THIS DATE;
FURTHER REQUESTING THE PLANNING
DEPARTMENT TO PREPARE A NEW VERSION OF
THIS ORDINANCE TO BE PRESENTED TO THE
CITY COMMISSION •IN APRIL, FOR THEIR
FINAL CONSIDERATION.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Dawkins, the motion
was pa3sed and adopted by,the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Demetrio Perez, Jr.
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
NOES: Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
ABSENT: None.
ON ROLL CALL:
0
Mayor Ferre: Before voting, and I am voting on the-* ='-
negative, I just want to say that I'm voting on the
negative, as I did last time, because I just simply do not
believe this is -'the right thing for the City of Miami. It
has nothing to do with anything other than just my personal
feelings on this, Gene Hancock and Peggy are good personal
friends of mine and have been for 30 years." I'm terribly
sorry to have to vote against something that they are
interested in, but my opinion is known. I've expressed it
in the past. I need to explain that it's based on that and
the arguments that have been presented here and I vote no.
Mr. Plummer: Mr.. Mayor, for a matter of clarification, pa.
I ask the staff, you said that it would go before the PA". -
when and be back here when?
Mayor Ferre He said they would be back here April,. is what
he said,
Mr. Plummer. l aM going to ask them on the record for a
definite date.
Mr. Podriguat: I think we can meet the PAS meeting of April
3rd, which is the first meeting of the pA9 in April and it
will be before you on April 25th.
Mr. baWkins: This open confession is good for the soul, let
me confess mine, i too feel that the people against the
billboards made a good showing,, 1 also feel that those in
favor Dade a good showing. But you elected me up here to
vote my convictions. Some of them you are going to agree
with. Some of them you are going to disagree with.
Therefore, I'll also be running again in November. In
November I will know whether you disagreed with me at 9110
whether you disagreed with me with none; and at that time,
it you re-eleot me, you' will. re-eleot me knowing that as I
sit up here, I will vote my convictions.
Mayor Fer.re: That sounds like my statement to T. Millard
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Mr. Dawkins: That's whyiyou got the recall.
.Mr. Plummer: You might have a problem, Miller, if these
people out here take out billboards to defeat you.
Mayor Ferre: Be careful! I tell you, I wouldn't touch that
one with Alice Wainwright and Rose Gordon if I were you.
Mr. Carollo: Mr. Mayor, Commissioners, I think what we've
seen here today is that we have a lot of well-intentioned
people, some for and some against, but I think that even
though sometimes you might agree, sometimes you might not,
you can still go about this in a dignified manner and
disagree publicly and still respect each other. What I
can't understand is the hypocrisy that I see time and time
again from that wonderful palace of malice by the bayside
the morning and afternoon Miami Herald that here they have
all kinds of paid advertisement by their firm advertising in
billboards their newspaper and then they have the gull -'to
come out with editorials --it's fine expressing their -point
of view, which we should respect that- but editorials which
agree going to the range of being insulting, personally
insulting to members of this Commission, talking about
stomachs or lacks of stomachs. I think that while the vase
majority if not all the people that are here today have
honorable intentions, they either feel very much for
something or very much against something, I think that what
we have to look at are the facts why these so called pillars
of the community at the palace of malice, what their
intentions are behind this. Of course, I don't really think
some of those people there care either way whether you have
the billboards or not. Their contention is that their
pocketbooks are going to hurt, because the people that spent
the thousands and thousands, of dollars in advertising in
billboards are people that usually would place .ponies in
newspapers that they did not have billboards to advertise
in. In other words, it would affect the Miami Herald's
pocket. If they were so much against billboards acid
particularly billboards in those areas, I don't think they
would be advertising like this. I don't think this is
something that anybody made up. All of you have seen the
Miami Herald advertising in billboards many times over and
over Again, A couple of areas that you do have some major
difference are the following, billboards, bus 4enches, they
all pay the City a fee, In fact, if I can get Mr, Whipple
up here to do..•do you have any recollection now up the top
of your head how much bus benches pay the City in a monthly
or a yearly fee, how much pillboards pay the City?
Mr. Pierdes. Billboards, Vice Mayor Oar tlloo do not pay tr16
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City a rde. They take but Wffiit-S t��t' COMStruttiOh and
dredtibh& It is not a revenue soutde.
Mr. Carollol. But they are still paying the City a fee when
they take out a per ' Mit, They have to pay something in order
to construct that billbbardo
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Mr. Pierce: yett air,
Mr. Carollo! Therefore) the City has revenues. The
question is you look at the City and you see newspaper ads.
I mean) it we are going to talk about beautifying the City)
it we've going to talk about protecting the public's right.
bf-way and we're going to talk about public welfare, you
have scores of newspaper racks that sometimes we have so
many in places that you can't even cross an intersection
without bumping into one of them. Then they have the gall
without asking anyone's .permission, in public property to
drill huge screws into the City's concrete and those that
aren't screwed down into, the concrete where big poles are
made and damaging City property, they get these chains and
the tie them up around -Utility poles, City signs, anywhere
they please. Maybe I'm missing the point somewheret but it
seems to me like there's a major double standard here
somewhere. I don't see how anyone can defend this by
freedom of the press. Freedom of the press is when you
interfere in trying to force a newspaper to publish
something or other, like is done in other countries; like
it's done in Nicaragua; like it's done in Cuba and the
Soviet Union. But what I'm talking about here is freedom of
the citizens, freedom of the City. What these newspapers
have done is they've taken those freedoms, those rights that
we have and they are telling us that we have no right in
protecting the welfare of this community that they can place
those newspaper racks anywhere they want to anyway they want
to. I want to ask the City' Attorney to sit with me and any
member of this Commission that would like to individually,
to come up with an ordinance, in ordinance that's going to
be for the public welfare of this community where,
we Are
going to limit the locations and the a=ount of newspaper
racks that we can have in any given place.
APPLAUSE.
Mr. Carollo: How many feet away they are going to have to
be from intersections, an ordinance that would not allow
them, and if they do, they're going to have to pay the City
for damages, to screw on screws to the sidewalk, to tie up
chains around City of public property and that they would
have to pay a yearly fee for each newspa-er rack that's out
there to pay for City employees that are going to have to be
assigned to inspect these newspaper racks to make sure they
are in conformance with the laws that we will implement.
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(Signs)
The to of Ordiflatice Nog' 0500" 1 the 20mimg Of'diMaMde Of the
City of Miatfti# Florida, is hereby amended as followat
ttAMCLE 20. GENERAL AND 8UMEMENTARY REGULATIONS
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SECTION 2026. '310146o SPSCtFIC LIMITATIONS AND REOUIREMENTS
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2026.15. Outdoor Advertising'signs.
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business shall be regulated and restricted as follows in
districts in which they are permitted.
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of Embellishments.
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feet.
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to one (1) sign and forty (40) square feet of sign area
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(for each face) for each business, or for each fifty
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(50) feet of street frontage, whichever shall: yield the
largest number of area. Permitted sign area may be used
in less than the maximum permitted number of such signs,
but no sign shall exceed two hundred (200) square feet
in area for each face. Maximum height limitation shall
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be twenty (20) feet incfuding embellishments, measurec
from the crown of the nearest adjacent local or a-F-t-e-F-1aT_
street, r o t including limited access highways or
'ixpressways
provided however --T-H—at the Zoninz
Mministra..or at his discretion may increase the
measuremen*.; of the crown by up to five (5) feet to
accommodate unusual or -`undulating site conditions.
6.
'3round or free standing signs, offsite, shall be limited
to 2 for any lot, whether or not occupied by 3 building.
Totmi: aU,face The area shall not exceed 750 -sq.ft.
emmulatil-i) T—or V-I+ each surface-i including
embellishments. The total height will not exceed thirty
(30) feet, except as set forth in Section 2026715.2.
including emoellishments, measured from the crown of the
nearest adjacent local or arterial street, not including
limited access 'Rignways or expressways, provided However
T75-E, Ene Zoning Administrator- —at his discretion may
increase th;a-- measurement BF the crown by up to five - (5 7
feet to accommodate unusual or undulating Site
conditions.
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Mayor Maurice Ferre
Vice -Mayor, Dimitri Perez
Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller Dawkins
Commissioner J.L. Plummer
Richard Whipple, Planning Dept.
P.O. Box 330708
Miami, FL 33133
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�9 JUL3�trrn11.1t Oct,pet�tive Date:
Re: Billboards Along Public Roads and Highways
Dear Sirs:
As manager of GROWTH PLUS FINANCIAL, INC. and as a resident of
Dade County, I would like to register my strongest objection to
the proposed possibility that licenses may be granted to various
advertising agencies and billboard operators to erect billboards
along public roads and highways in our home, Dade County and Miami.
The reason why I feel so strongly is because I love .Miami and I
don't want to see her beauty marred by these unsightly monstrosit-
ies. They are truly unattractive and distracting and, if per-
mitted, will be an eyesore that we will come to regret.
Let's not "sell out" for a modest sum in licensing fees to be
collected and slight land valuation increases.
Please protect my interests and other Dade residents' interests.
Keep our city beautiful.
Sincerely,
Ted Qmholt,
Manager
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Flonida South Chapter American Institute' of Armtects
1150,5. W. 22nd street . suite 1`8 i Warni, Florida 00129
June 27, 1984
Mavor Maurice Ferre
City Hall
3500 pan American Drive
Miami, Florida 33133
Dear Mayor Ferre and Honorable Members of the City Commission, a
The Florida South Chapter of the American Institute of Architects would
like to take this opportunity to voice our concern regarding amendments to
the sign regulations of the zoning ordinance (Agenda Item #24, June-28, - •
1984) as they pertain to Billboards and/or general advertising structures.
As you may be aware, the chapter has consistently over a number of years
been involved with sign and billboard* legislation. in the City. The regulations
established under Ordinance #6871 and subsequently incorporated into Ordinance`.
#9500 were endorsed by the chapter as reasonable and proper_sitn legislation.
We are very disappointed and disturbed. to learn, however, that billboard removal
which has been in litigation for fourteen years has not been eifectuated and
is not at this point of prime concern to the City of Miami.
The amendments presently before the Commission are deemed to be a further
.relaxation of the Billboard regulation of which the: chapter is opposed. The
proposed sign height of 50' is excessive and is not in scale with our urban
structure; the billboard spacing, although a control, is not one that would
necessarily lesson the number of new sign locatirns in our set land use pattern;
and, the changing of the angle when viewed in thc: context of the section being
amended, has no merit. It is obvious that the proposed changes are directed
toward changing the prohibition of billboards along expressways and the chapter
would strongly urge the Commission to turn down any proposed amendment that
would lead to elimination of this prohibition.
S erelyF, _
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J�- Ume Filar, Pres{denc ..
South Chapter._ erin,.Ingtitute of Architects
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July 184 198,1, Ito a5
Planning Aavitery Boded
der re=,,eral cf uhe City uoilCflis, 9ion by Lotion
34-72 7, .tune 28, 1084 , Eor the Purpose o.0
considering additional factbr, rlteonsidaration
Of teat AMehdMeftt8 to Lonih9 Ordinance 9SOO
as amended by afftending Section 2025 Signs,
Specific Limitations and requirements of
Articie 20 Certeral and SuPplementary
Ikegulations to clarify billboard height,
I introduce a billboard spacing formula, and
i change current limitations on the angle of
billboards from limited access highways#
including expressways, allowing billboards to
be -viewed from and allowed within 600' along
' limited access highways., including
expressways, clarify applicable surface area
—j of outdoor advertising signs (billboards):
further amending sheet 5 of the gfficial
- Schedule of District Regulations made a part
of said Ordinance 9500 by reference and
description in Section 320 thereof, pertaining
to CG General Commercial Zoning district,
Limitations on Signs' by providing for height
limitations and a spacing formula for ground
or free standing signs; onsite and offsite,
clarify applicable 'surface area of outdoor
advertising signs (billboards), and containing
a repealer provision and a severability
clause.
Secretary filed proof of Legal Notice of Public Hearing.
' Mr. Rodriguez: Presentation of this item will be
made by Mr. Whipple.
Mr. Manes: We'll give you a moment to set up
there, Mr. Whipple.
Mr. Whipple: Thank you. I'm sorry, I didn't.
realize number 4 was put off. Mr. Chairman, members of the
1A/ Board, just recapping for a moment, you might "remember the last
time this item in a similar form or almost identical form was
( before this Board requesting certain considerations with respect
to height of signs, angle of signs and we had quite a serious
discussion about those two items. At the end of that meeting,
this Board had made recommendations recommending 50 ft. height
limitation. I'm not sure of the angle recommendation but the
final recommendation. —resolution of this Board, was to inquire,
of the City Commission as to whether this Board was to consider
the facing, angle, etc. in relation to expressways. It did go on
to the City Commission and before the item got started, it was
suggested by the Commission that we had not included all the _f
suggestions that the industry had proposed to the Commission at a
previous meeting and_they very specifically informed the
Department and a reflection to the Advisory Board as to what they
should or shouldn't consider. The bottom line of this is
something similar to what I had indicated to you at'the previous'
meetings. The angle has no significance unless you want to allow
billboards along the expressway. The height has no significance
unless you want to allow billboards along the expressway. We
have a couple other items involved that being the sign area which
was included last time which you have not heard before but it's
in the item tonight, and. the other item was spacing of billboards
and we truly don't believe spacing is necessary unless, agaiAt
you want to include billboards along expressways. So that brings
us to where we are tonight. in that, number one, the City
Commission asked the Department and the Planning Advisory Board.
to consider whether or not they want to allow billboards along
tkpragmwayt and the Caity Cammi!Igiom also got the imdUtta-7 to
finally ad" it that through all thi.' dett7tand4ri*,19 of hdight And
Andleg and What have '15u, what they're really looki,.i(l !or Is to
put 6111boarda along the LAXpreAsWAyd and that 'l part of the
record and that's dur basic d0M§id4tdti6n herd this evening and
t'll integrate the other qleMdMta as we go along,
in the City of Aiafflij - therelt been a Prohlbitidm
against billboards along expressways within 600 It,, with some
exceptions and I'll explain those 49deptionA in a Mffidn'to Since
1063. That law was questioned. bade County law Came into ha*,
aril our new law in 65 took over Where the bade County law left
off. It prohibited billboards within 600 It. except where
billboards that do not face the expressway but face other streets
will be permitted within 600 ft. because they do not face the
expressway and they face, let's say, A crossing street, we
attached an angle to that because the angle might be of
consideration with regard to expressways and we said it shall be
parallel to the expressway or not exceeding an angle Of 10
degrees to the expressway and therefore, following through with
.the intent of the provision of.1prohibition except that where
signs are facing in other areas, fine, we have no problem and we
had an allowance, re: the angle, parallel, 10 degrees from and
what have you. All we were . doing With the other part of that
section was to allow billboard that weren't facing the
expressway to exist to other surface streets, on the most part,
or to other streets that did not face 'the expressway. So again,
we're to the bottom line, forgetting the angle for a minute and
forgetting the height for a minute, you don't need a 50 ft.
billboard in the City. Thirty feet as we had under the old
ordinance is more than enough. The only reason you'd want 50 or
60 ft. is if you were facing the expressway, so again we're back
to the issue, are we facing the expressway or aren't we? Botto.n
line or start with the bottom line as far as that is concerned,
the Planning Department recommends lbsolutely'no. Billboards
should not face the expressway. We have many, many reasons why
they shbuld not and I'd like to give you a few and then I'd like
you to show... like to show you some examples of what billboards
along the expressway look like through a few brief slides.
Number one, when it comes to expressways the objective
of a billboard or sign even, any sign, is to attract one's
attention to that sign and I would suggest to you when we're
traveling expressways and going 50-55, or to be realistic, on
1-95, except in peak hours, we're going 60 or 65 and you have
heavy traffic and you take your eyes off to see a billboard, that
in my opinion and the Department's opinion and' many others'
opinion, constitutes a potential hazard and I'm sure we're goin-1
to hear it tonight, do I have the statistics to say that that's a
hazard and you'll notice my words, potential hazard, and leading
into that is that the objective of the billboard is to take your
attention and if you take your attention off of the road, that is
a potential hazard. I don't think there's to much question on
that.
I'd like to show you the physical characteristics that
if you approve billboards along the expressway, what you're
likely to see. (Mr. Whipple started to show the slides.)
Perhaps we could have a couple more lights off. If you give me a
moment, just let me pull this back a little bit further. The
first couple or three slides, I just wanted to show you what a 50
or 60 ft. billboard in height looks like. it's a little bit dark
but you can see the cars below. This is from Palmetto Expressway
which is probably elevated to a height of at least 25 ft. at this
point and you can see that this sign is approximately 50 or 60
ft. in height. It's an existing board on the Palmetto
Expressway. This is another one and again bythe scale of the
building in the parking lot, you can have an ices of what the
impact of the additional height that's being requested, of which
we're recommending against, does. Again, we're tal.1jing about a
50 or 60 ft, high billboard, (Pause) And this is a third, this
Particular sign is a Marlboro and we'll get back to it later On
but again it is in the 50 to 60 ft. height range, I would
imagine that base is close to 5 ft. around at the bottom and
July 18f 1984,, TtOM 5
Planning Advisory 5037d
41
these are the b6ttnvial - to allowing
blllbc5arldla along the 4A-ert�glawayi i NIS lftwos t1h4le he iq h t and wahe
,1,Aqft4A.tUde thAt %-.aft bddUr. very 4uid"."ly vt just 'Alotnd to tame I
tr"'O dd,.Vh aLmetto with you And let ta pteEaCd t 1111 0" , this it nog
all the Palitettd, Dade C4ounty has A regulation that I -a the game
as the City of 14iamis They do tAdt allow billboards within 660
I them I J, S
W _:tL -it7 of Riami d6e.91 hdw4vL
ft, They ps"'ohib.ithe C 5 r o
through... excuse td* through dome unknown reason Or What have
you, the County COMMi8giOn d4dided to eliminate their control
over thundipAlItiag Whidh they've had 81ndd 1063 and tay# "Okayt
I
ML-,lidipalitidap do your own thing... We're just gohna worry about
,our part,* which is fine. We have Our Part in gear. However#
Madleyt. Hialeah, Hialeah (3ardent and other municipalities of
where these signa are taken have decided they would like
billboards; evidently, they don't have the respect for the rest
of the region that the City of Miami has, So as we go down
Palmetto Expregswayt we see these signs of the height and
magnitude. if YOU remember this was one that Showed you the
height of before and these are a little poor in graphics but you
can as you go on down there's five billboards in that viewo'
there's six in this view, you.can see the configurations that
they take. You can see how they vie for the intentiont.4your
attention. You can see the height. We're coming up to that
interesting one that I indicated to you and that's a triangle.
That's a three -faced sign. Two faces, one for the northbound,
one for the southbound and o,ie for the eastbound which is quite a
structure as you can see. Thi.2i is as you're looking back.
Let
me go back to that just for a minute. it's just not a matter of
allowing a sign as you're going in a direction. You saw this
sign earlier heading in a north direction. This is the same
sign heading in a southerly direction. It's what they call a
crossover as far as viewing goes and you'll see in a minute
another couple more examples of that. Again, this is a
southbound view when the traffic's heading north or a crossover
view. Here's a crossover looking at the signs that are on the
southbound side but are available for northbound viewing. I
think you get...have an idea as to what lack of aesthetic
consideration there is, lack of potential hazards, lack of
awareness as to the opportunities that exist in this community
particularly more so than in other communities with our climate,
with our trees, with our low profile, how this intrudes, is
unsightly and really not necessary. The next two slides, just
wanted to indicate to you what was meant by a sign that would be
permitted within 600 ft. of an expressway but did not face the
expressway, how it's allowed. This happens to be a-,. NW Sth
.Street. As.you see it is facing the eastbound Sth Street
traffic. It is faced at an angle with 1-95 which is behind it
and that is the intent of the angle and the exception to the 600
ft. prohibition next to expressway. It does not discriminate;
therefore, for those signs that are not there for the expressway
it allows them. It was intended to allow them with those ,
conditions but again I'm reminding you that the request was to
change the angle within this prohibition area. Fire, I told you
last time you could change it to 100 degrees as long as it ,
doesn't face the expressway. Fifty foot height, you basically
don't need 50 ft. height particularly adjacent to an expressway
when it can't be viewed by the expressway. So finally we get
back to what's really wanted and really is a concern that they
want billboards along the expressway such as I've showed ex*ist in
a fortunately small segment of Palmetto Expressway, only those
three municipalities; Dade County doesn't do it. Gables doesn't
do it. South Miami doesn't do it. None of the other municipali-
ties do it except Medley, Hialeah Gardens and Hialeah. This is
that same sign faced away from the expressway and please ,
understand this picture is taken from pulling oft the driving
lane and there's no way that somebody traveling southbound on
1-95 could see this sign but the present provision and previous
provisions allow that sign to occur within the 600 ft.
31 July IS, 1984# Item 5
Planning Advisory 5oard
t have- two snore items one being spacing , i',1 yo LAd to
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it's a darrot because our lobbyists in Tallahassee and our
lawyets Have convinced the state that billboards are all right as
long at they're spaced. Well i can't argue with that, it's a
degree with sparing and we suggest to you when you're going 55,
50, 55 tiles an hour on an expressway, the viewing power of a
billboard, they have to be at least spaced 1,500 ft to have that,
viewing power. That's roughly four billboards within a mile and
th.+ only reason they want the epacing is because they know they
won't want the competitor to dome 'in and block their view. With
the *spacing requirement, they can put their sign in at there
first and therefore Nobody else can come in because if a
competitor come in, they'd be able to block their view and that
would be the first one within the, whatever, distance for
viewing. Bottom line on that issue is that we do not feel
spacing is an important element. We do not feel it's applicable
although we said it was at our previous meeting, `In the local
streets we don't feel that it'i applicable there and we don't
think it's necessary on expressways -if you were to allow signs on
expressways. If you want a recommended distance requirement or
separation, if you see fit to,allow billboards on expressways,
we'd be glad to give you a dumber of at least 2,500, 3,00O, 4,000
ft. by which to not perpetuate this unaesthetic problem that is
being fisted upon you as chatiga► in regulation this evening.
Give you an idea of distance...(pause while Mr. Whipple
was looking for the appropriate slide) I'm sorry, went the wrong
way. There is 550 ft. between that sign on the left and the one
in the background. That's 550 ft. Now you understand I don't
have a top notch camera, nor does the Department at this point,
the distance between this sign is roughly 550 ft. between. that
and the next one on'the left. You have approximately 1,000 ft.
between this sign and not the far one but the next one, in the
middle where it has something sticking on top, just trying to
give you an -idea of depth with respect to the spacing formula.
Lastly, at the last Commission meeting when they
directed this Board and this Department to consider billboards
along expressways, there was another item thrown in and that's a
clarification item regarding what they called sign area at that
time. It's an item that came before this Board in Excess of a
year ago in relation to Ackerly Advertising's request of which we
concurred with. The way that the 9500 sets forth the sign area
suggests you can have two signs limited to 750-sq. ft. It was
not the intent of 9500 to say you could have one at 750 or two at
325. So we have clarified that wording and made sure that they
can have two double-faced ... they can have two faces on a
structure each of which could total 750 sq. ft. as long as
they're not within 600 ft. of the expressway and do not face the
expressway. So we have included that clarifying wording. If the
Board has any questions as to our proposals we'd be...I'd be glad
to answer. ,
Mr. Manes: Are there any questions from the
Board members at this time?
Mr. Benjamin: Mr. Chairman?
Mr. Manes: - Mr. Benjamin.
Mr. Benjamin: I would like to know why is it
that after this Board spent a considerable amount of time at a
previous meeting discussing this item and deciding that we should
have 50 ft. signs and 1,500 spaces that Mr. Whipple should come
back before us discussing these matters? The only thing that's
before us, the facing, the angle and the distance from expressway
and I think that some steps should be taken to let the City
officials know that they must not waste our time in this fashion.
I strongly object to this sort of behavior.
4 July 1$, 19840 Item 5
Fldnning Advisory Board
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Kr. Aodriguet! t think that maybe you oan ask the
Mayor and the City cdmrftssion not to instruct the staff to done
baek before you On this item because they $pecifidally asked us
to come on these three spec i f id i tettis that 'ale have 16V4red and I
believe the presecitation by Mt-- Whipple had spedifitally oovered
the distance between signs, the angle towards the expressway, the
height of the billboards and trying, to clarify for your..;i
be:i.ieve so you will knew exactly what they asked us to do, all
the issues that were involved in that decision because we believe
it is a very important decision that you all are going to make
today in recomending Eor or against this recommendation and I
would like to add something else. Mr. Whipple has been
emphasizing the importance of this item as it relates to a hazard
situation and so on, I would like you to imagine -95 as you are
driving towards downtown looking into the bay, into one, what I
believe is a beautiful skyline., and how that would be blocked or
interfered by billboards in the future even if they are 1,000 or
1,500 from now on. I think that the recommendation that you are
making today will set precedence for future generations and I
think the responsibility that you have today in many cases it may
be more important than some of the decisions that have come to
you in the past. That is why the Department has taken such a
strong position on this issue because once you put a billboard
over there► it can not be removed.
Mr. Benjamin: Mr. Chairman, I would 'hate that
I'm taking my responsibilities seriously and the information I
have before me says that this matter is referred to the Planning
Advisory Board for further consideration to include facing, angle
and distance of billboards from expressways. I don't see any
place in this agenda where we are being asked -to reconsider the
50 height limitation or the 1,500 space between the billboards
and that's the only comment I'm making, you know, I'm not in a
disagreement with the comment Mr. Rodriguez is making, I'm just
considering with how these matters are presented to us and I
would hope that they'll present it in a much more useful and
beneficial manner.
Mr. Armesto-Garcia: Mr. Chairman?
Mr. Manes:
Mr. Armesto-Garcia.
Mr. Armesto-Garcia: Yes, I have a comment to make
regarding what Mr. Rodriguez said. Sergio Rodriguez just said
that he's very worried about looking east and seeing Biscayne Bay
full of billboards but he never is worried about looking and
seeing the monster of the rapid transit which is blocking my way
of the view of the sea and he never protests against that monster
that we, a taxpayer, have to pay for that (word inaudible) and
also to Mr. Whipple, he says that at the peak hours, at the peak
hours in the expressway my friend, Mr. Whipple, you can not go
more than 30 miles per hour, your bumper to bumper, bumper to
bumper and you won't have any accidents more than you have today
because of a billboard. If you go 35, 25 miles an :our you can
not go faster. _
Mr.
Manes:
Any
other comments from the Board?
Mr.
Rodriguez:
Mr.
Chairman?
Mr.
Manes;
Mr.
Rodriguez.
Mr. Rodriguez; If I can respond to 'fir. Armesto-
Garcia. 1 don't believe we're discussing today the rapid
transit. If and when we discuss that item, I will address
anything that you might want t o address on that and you may get
more from me than you might want to and in relation to the other
July 18, 1984, Item a
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te,ltai,oned was tt;at when ,you 1mc not going -it Peak �,,Ouct A. -Id lou
will be gbir1l It VO-rl1 ucaa-t Sb_ eed-a And 3— that *e=i lt► it will be
dangeero�l5. I think
4 in a way the example he's showing on the
palmetto might not be the best possible in the sense..*well this
is the only e;taffiple that we dah. show but in the City of Miami
when you go through the expressways, you have exits and entrandes
veey close to each other with a list of traffic going through all
the time making the situation more ha2ardous than in ether places
6L : the County and of the State of .PldridA.
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Mr. Luaces:
Mr. Cha irnnan?
Mr.' Whipple: Mr. Chairman, if...
Mr. Manes: Just...I think you had your hated
` up before Mr. Luaces. I'll recognize you next, Mr. Luaces.
w
Mr. Whipple: ,' I just wanted to add one more
piece to my presentation not in what have you...but at the City
commission meeting- Rathy, if you would --at the City Commission
meeting regarding this item before they referred it back to the
Board, there was a letter frcm the American Institute of
Architects regarding this item. It's being passed out to you. I
don't see any need to read it but in essence they have two
problems. One-they're...have a problem and recommend against the
proposed amendment to allow billboards along the expressway and
they also in a very slight way criticize the City as to their
handling of the elimination of billboards under previous
legislation saying or indicating that they haven't seen much
accomplishment and they're asking the question "why?". The
second letter handed out to you was just one that came in the
mail. Growth Plus Financial, Inc by Mr. Ted Omholt, again
objecting to billboards along the expressway and I think they
ought to be included as part of the record this evening.
Mr. Manes: Mr. Luaces.
Mr.
Luaces:
Mr.
Chairman, Sergio...
Mr.
Manes:
Into
the microphone, please.
Mr. Luaces: Mr. Chairman, Sergio, I requested
in a previous meeting to know and now you mention that there
would be too many signs on I-95 that would block our skyway
facing the bay. It's pretty hard to see the bay from I-95 but I
requested previously to know how many billboards are we talking
about with a 1,500 ft. spacing. Nobody was able to answer that
question to me at the previous meeting, about two meetings before
this one, when the request from the industry was not as extensive
and then we were arguing only about was it grade or not grade,
now we,'re involved with something more deep and I requeste9 that
and nobody answered and now I'm listening to...
Mr. Rodriguez: Well part of the problem is that
you can not establish exactly where would they buy and in what = s==
areas you have the zoning. The zoning is in different places
throughout I-95, okay, it's there but we don't know what control
they have at this point of those properties. We don't know what
zoning change might come in the future.
Mr. Luaces: But we're basing our study, the
Department's basing out study also in something that is out of
thin air. There may be 1,000, and there may be only 4 or 14,,.
Mr. Armesto-Carcia; Or six.
Mr. Luaces: ...or 6.
Mr. Whipple; Not Sir.
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Mr. Aodriauea: 4411, t tnink one is 6A! yo %Amvp
In sp=" iGri bU t t Can' t ?i ICU
Hr. %,uaces: Well, in my opiflit5tli it's not
because when 1 go to Orltlhdd, for instance, t travel Over there
and t see ' signs that will tell tftq what Holiday tmm t dould drive
to and things like that, they advertise the city and the things
that are oEtered by the city and t look forward to looking at
those billboard.$ to be honest with your Even Walt did.
t Mr. Arrnesto-Garcia: Mr. !Ghairman, one ;tinute to Finish
my interrogation. t also would like to point out that
Mr. Whipple tentibned tunicipalities... of course, Coral Cables
can not object or approve because Coral Gables has no
expressways. I mean, you can not give me the example of Coral
Gables or West Miami, West Miami has no expressway at all. Coral
.-Cabl.es... but Medley, Medley has an expressway and they want it
and they have it. Hialeah has an expressway, they -have it.
Hialeah Gardens has expressway,/they have it but they are
municipalities who can have or can not have and they Chose to
have it but don't give me the example of Coral Gables because
Coral Gables is a locked in municipality and they have no
expressway even they don't have a� rapid transit either. I mean,
Coral Gables is not a good example of that as well as 'hest Miami.
It's like Miami Beach. Miami Beach don't have expressway. I
mean, they don't have a cemetery either.
Mr. Whipple: They don't have billboards et;:e:,
neither does Coral Gables period.
Mr. :lanes: Okay. Mr. Benjamin, in response
to your initial comment there, my understanding, I'm not the Law
Department maybe Mr. -Maxwell will correct me if I'm wrong; our
recommendation at the last meeting did include•a height
limitation and a spacing recommendation to the City Commission.
They did not take any action on that recommendation and in their
request for consideration by this Board concerning angle, facing
and distance from the expressway, it's conceivable that new
information could be made available and it would induce the Board
to change their recommendation from the previous meeting.
Mr. Maxwell: That's correct, Mr. Chairman.
When the City Commission sent the item back down to this Board,
it was again properly noticed and I believe Mr. Rodriguez gave
certification and notice, it was properly noticed, therefore this
Board has jurisdiction of the whole ordinance, the whole proposed
ordinance at this time so it can consider everything that was in
a previous one as well.
Mr. Benjamin: Mr. Chairman, all I'm saying is
i that the information that's given to me does not refer to a
reconsideration of the 50 ft. height limit or the 1,500 ft.
spacing but rather a consideration of the facing, the angle and
distance of billboards from the expressway, that's all I'm
saying.
Mr. Manes: Okay, well, it's, you know, that's
the wording that we have here, The wording could just easily
have been, you know, "Consideration including but not limited
to." It was not, you know, solely restricted to those three
items, Those were three items that they wanted to address. I
feel it's within the purview of the Board to readdress the
previous issues if that's the Board's desire. Do we have any
more discussion on this item?
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Ms. Kolski:
Yes, I...
Mr. Benjamin: Finally# Mr. Chairman, I don'
want to 'give the impression that I'm pic} iaq on Mr. Whipple"..
Kr. Whipple; yes you are.
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Ott. aenjafftiftll Not t deal with languages j,4ry
care; oily and that' l all f' ;t sari ing .
Mr. ;Manes: Thank you.
Mr. Whipple! Thank you.
Mr. Manes: Is there any other Comments at
th1t tithe? ` "
Ms. Kolski! ohd question, I warted to ask if
whether you had the specific wording of the City COMMiss iOn # t
request handy to that Mr. aenjamin could hear what their actual
request was. Obviously, they want as to fight it out and send
theta a definite decision one way or the other and that's probably
what they'll go with.
Mr, aenjamin: Mr. Chairman, I'm prepared to
accept what you have said. 11m sorry.
Mr. Manes: okay, I think we've settled that.
Just before we open the publ.c hearing, I would like to say to
all of you that are here on Sinner Key, it is scheduled for eight
o'clock, at the conclusion of this item we will go into the
special public hearing on the Dinner Key Master Plan project and
we're now ready to open the public input section of the public
hearing concerning agenda item number S which is proposed
amendments to Section•2026.
Mr. Maxwell: Mr. Chairman?
Mr. Manes: Mr. Maxwell.
Mr. Maxwell: For the record, I would like the
record to reflect that the letter that Mr. Whipple passed'out was
a.letter from Florida...it was from Jerome Filer, President of
the Florida South Chapter of the American Institute of Architects
and it's to Mayor Maurice Ferre dated June 27, 84' and it will be
introduced into the record as an exhibit for this item.
Mr. Manes: Okay, does the second letter...do
—� you wish to do that to the second letter, also?
Mr. Rodriguez: Yes, we will include also the
letter from Ted Omholt, Manager of Growth Plus Financial,
Incorporated.
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Mr. Manes: And that's also addressed to the
Mayor.
Mr. Rodriguez: Also addressing the billboards and
addressing the Mayor and ... the Mayor and the Commission and it
was raising. the objection to the proposed possibility for
advertising agencies and billboard operators to erect billboards
along public roads and highways.
Mr. Manes:- Thank you. This is a public
hearing item, those of you in the audience wishing to speak
either for or against this item, we're gonna ask you to stand and
be sworn in and then we always have the proponents for the item
here, petition number 5, speak first and then the opponents will
speak second there.
(Man in the audience started to speak out.
Mr, Manes: Okay, any.,.any comments or
questions that you have will need to be on the public record and
we're gonna:, you know, as we get everybody sworn in. -,are you
addressing the agenda item number 5 the signs'
a July 19, 1984, item 5
Flann ng Advisory Board
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from in t.t,.d audience.
Mrs Rands! Okay,
sorry you can't 8aV anything from ytjur seat. if you want to
address the goard.,,Oefttlontan *walkdd to the rftidrOPhone) We'll
need your name and address for the record.
Mr. Aasalonet lift Pat Aagalone# 1600 SW 2 Avenue
al-d it's five minutest that's allt, ye're all here and t promise
you 'kA-hert Won't be no discussion on it. t just want to tell You
what we want and We'll get out of here.
Mr: Manes! Okay, are you talking about agenda
item number, I believe, it's ll�
Mr. Atsalonet We re actually 11t. yes.
Mr. Manes: Okay] well You're not going -to be
able to do anything on 11 until we conclude number S. At that
time we'll address whether or not we can allow you live minutes
prior to the scheduled hearing.-,
Mr. Assalonet Thank you.
(Another gentleman speaking out from the audience)
Mr. Manes: CAddressing a gentleman (Mr. Halt)
in the audience] Okay. Okay, are you talking about agenda item'
number 5, this public hearing on signs?
(Mr. Malt answered from the audience. Inaudible.)
Mr. Manes: Okay. Is there anybody else
wishing to speak on agenda item number 5? (Addressing Mr. Knox)
You're an attorney. (Addressing the other gentleman) Are you an
attorney?
Mr. Malt: No, sir.
Mr. Manes: Okay, we'll need to have you sworn
in and...
(Mr. Perez-Lugones swore in the gentleman)
Mr. Manes: Okay, are you a proponent of this
item?
Mr. Malt: I have a little different
position, sir, in that I'm not a proponent on the ordinance nor
an opponent but if I may be permitted to say my position.
Mr. Manes: Okay, well, Mr. Knox is up here
first. Mr. Knox, do you mind yielding the floor?
Mr. Knox- Not at all, Mr. Chairman.
Mr. Manes:- Okay, your name and address
please.
Mr. Malt; Harold Lewis Malt, 3695 St.
Gaudens Road, Coconut Grove. I'm a professor of architecture and
planning at the University of Miami and if you'll permit me a
modest little degr s e sion here, I'll say that every semester in my
course on Urban Planning Process I send my stu -dents down here to
observe proceedings. I have to confess it's the first time I've
been here before you but I'm very, Very impressed with the
conduct of the meeting and the subjects that you deal with and
I'm glad that I'm here. Any rate,toget to the point, I'd like
to make some comments which I think are important in the total
context, not specifically dealing with, which is why I hesitated
on the matter of the ordinance or not the ordinance, not
July l3f 1984, Item 5
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anCna and so . to th, k thiftk ltl a LMPOttarlt 1-0 r4MLI "b_+r 'ditoJ
controls were hadted ri the tiirst place back in ahe 6o I --and b
thinly that ,'ty Ortnefltt and sty intttesto det`lle frbtn the Ida adt so, t;at
In 196'S t t.41as 1ftvited by the 30hntOft Admi;lystratiom to be a
participant iCt the White House conference on natural beaut
attended those Aeetings and those committee Meetings and f ;tusW
tell you that just refreshed my mamory a little bit by readi:rtg
the prbceedings just a few hours ago. Now, the Main thing was
tt,are was a concern about billboards along highways and the
coiiaensua of those that attended those proceedings in the 6011,
middle 601 s, 'wAa that...
Mr.' Manes: excuse le j excuse me one moment.
Could you have somebody quiet them down in the lobby please.
Okay, you can proceed.
Mr. Malt: ,...that spacing whether it was
1, 000 ft. or some such number 'was not adequate. The real
important issue was one of visibility. Visibility as you're
proceeding along the highway to that any sign which is visible is
presumptively a trespass on the -public richt-of-way. It was
continually stated and confirmed in the proceedings that it
should be deal with as that kind of a visibilityj as a trespass.
It's an unlawful device and it"s appropriate to not permit those
devices which destroy community values created by public
investment. Nov of course traffic safety as well as aesthetics
was also recocnized and I'm not going to belabor this point but
those proceedings and other documents quote a number of legal
citations such as Pollis vs. Smith, Illinois Appelate Court 1966.
Based on many of those decisions at that time, the Dade
regulations and of course, the City of siami regulations,, which
actually was a very early model, a marvelous model nationally to
the rest of the nation, some of those were challenged so that in
1970 the Fifth Circuit Court found that, and I quote exactly,
"Ordinance 63-26," this is a Dade Ordinance, "63-26 is desired to
accommodate two ends, to promote highway safety and to improve
the beauty of the land and thus to increase the attraction of the
area to tourists and residents alike." Well, I submit that
there's some, therefore, some larger issues here than those
dealing with statistics of size, height and so forth. We're
dealing with some larger issues: traffic safety, aesthetics and
something that I haven't heard here yet tonight, the question of.
the total environment of this area with respect to its impact on
tourism with its respect to Miami as a place that people want to
come to have surcease from the commercialism that they see
perhaps along some other highways or interstates in other parts
of the nation and they want to see sky; they want to see skyline;
they want to see palm trees; they do not want to see advertise-
ments for, you know, we can name whatever we want that they're
likely to see elsewhere in the nation. Well, I said I'd be brief
and I'm brief and I thank you and I appreciate the opportunity to
be here.
(Applause from the audience.)
a s— AN,
Mr. Manes: We thank you for your comments.
Mr. Knox.
Mr. Knox; Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman
and members of the Board, so that there...mv name is George F.
Knox for the record. I am an attorney and I represent E. A.
Hancock: Advertising,
Mr, Manes: We'll need your address please,
Mr. Knox: My present business address is 200
SE 1 Street, Miami., Florida. There is no doubt that the essence
Of these deliberations has to do with whether or not the City
Commission has adapted or wishes to consider the adoption of the
10 July 16, 1934, Item 5
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.yG • \ •\yi/ \i .. 5 � I. a i `7 . t W ii i • • :1 � \.yl to lw .yJ . \ 1cJii.7 � W L o Ci 4 l f• �i 111 .YY I I G 311y�� 3 `wY p�{ .y�\ g � .i/ f j (1 C1
. i l A. f 1 �:� t C s n �.i i 11 •+ S i ci \: r1 t is') l 1 .'� lJ 1u to t 1 �Jl L •� :w �I 1 i i� 11 Yt tii •7 ii viY l 1 4;1 l lJ i. t'4i lG s
clear, cl'_'ai.l¢ esvidiftded by Erie charge �,ha= the clt'l Cotl`mi:sgidh
trantmitted back to this Board. In 1165 she Congress of the
Oftited States passed and adopted the Highway Aeautification Act.
This act represented 'Jfiited States gover1ft,-Aef1t policy of
pettItting outdoor advertising signs aloft- federal high+gays and
interstate highwa*ys And I quote, "To peor56te the reaeonabl.e,
orderly and effecti•�e display of outdoor advertising." The
Le0alature of the State Of Ploridar as recently Al its m6st
recent session revisited the State Statute regarding outdoor
advertisement and also stated its legislative intent and if I may
quote in part, ".. , to enhance the economic well bei ng of the
state by promoting tourist oriented businesses such as public
accomodations, vehi la services# attractions, cam!pgroundS, parks
and recreational areas and to promote points of Scanic, historic, p
cultural and educational interestsi" which is reoisel the kind
of advertisement that Mr. Luaces referred to earlier. The State
of Florida in its wisdom as it revisited its statute regulating
outdoor advertising Also set forth certain guidelines, certain
restrictions and re \slations and I can state on behalf of E. A.
Hancock that those regulations are reasonable and that the
request that they hake pertaining to the amendment of Ordinance
9500 is consistent with the regulations and limitations imposed
by the State Legislature at itz last session and simply stated,
it is a respectful request of E. A. Hancock that a recommendation
go forward to the City Commission which unequivocally pernits
outdoor advertising signs along federally...federal-aid highways
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and expressways su::-_ct to certain limitations.
Number one that those signs be placed 1,500 ft. apart
from any other per -milted sign on the same side of an interstate
highway and that signs be permitted to be placed 1,000 ft.. apart
on any federal -aid primary highway such as State Road 836 and 112
and that the sign s:.all be no more than 50 ft. in height above
the crown of the main -traveled way recognizing that the State
Legislature has provided a maximum height of 65 ft. and finally
that no sign shall exceed 750 sq. ft. of facing per sign facing
in recognition of t:.e fact that the State of Florida Legislature
has permitted 950 sc. ft. It is the opinion of E. A. Hancock
that the regulations that are proposed in addition to the
regulations that have been imposed by the State of Florida are
reasonable, rational, in the public interest and on behalf of E.
A. Hancock, I respectfully request that you adopt these
recommendations and forward them to the City Commission for its
deliberation and I could be pleased to answer any questions that
any member of the Board may have.
Mr. Manes: Are there any questions fr--m the
Board? (Pause) I have one, Mr. Knox. Just so I understand
exactly what you just read which I believe was from the
legislature, the crown of thi-i main -traveled way, I'm not saying
what the Board is doing or going to do but, if the main -traveled
way happens to be an expressway are you looking 50 ft. higher
than the crown of ".e expressway?
Mr. Knox: Yes, sir, and this is the
definition that the legislature has given to the phrase crown of
the main -traveled way.. Main -traveled way is defined as the
roadway to which the sign is being addressed.
Mr. Manes: Okay, thank you,
Mr. Knox, Yes, sir.
Mr. Benjamin: Mr. Chairman?
Mr, ;banes: Mr. Benjamin.
ll Ju1'y 18, 1984, Item 5
P14nning Adviss :: Body:M
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'Ar, t144ow tuci iif4drqntisthat frcm
the adtloh W LA 0 o A -Ijs a height I i, ft i 't W i '1-6h 6 0 t
spec izyinn ahytlA ilIg ?
Mr, Knox! To my knowledge, Mr. aemjaMim, the
only diStiftdtitft is that the basis upon which the 50 ft. height
was tfteAtured may not have been cleat`,tothe City Corftmisgi6n,
Mr. Madesi Mr.. Rodrique2j just in case you
cal look that up from our last meetiftqt t doft1h recall the exact
wording. but I don't know if we could find that somewhere to find
out if we were looking at SO height from the mains -traveled way or
50 height from the ground level.
Mr. Rodriguez! Maybe, Mr. Whipple can do this
better than I do As a refreshing your memory, but if I remember
the evolution of this, the discussion at the beginning was 30 It.
from grade and then from the crest. At some point, I think you
made a recommendation to go 31 ft. from the crest or from the
highest grade. Then because of the interest of the billboard
industry, in order to make gome.allowances for the difference in
height between the grade of the roads under and the expressway
you allowed to SO. By going to 50 over the expressway in some
cases you might have 80, 90 f1t., that's why you...
Mr. Manes: Well, Mr. Knox is stating that the
legislators put a cap of 65 ft. on that but I'm just wondering
what the intent of the Board exactly was last time?
Mr. Benjamin: Mr...
Mr. Rodriguez: I understand last time you said 50,
ft. period.
Mr. Armesto-Garcia: Yes, Mr. Chairman, I understand we
said 50 ft. period but that is irrelevant because we are going to
have a new motion and everything new tonight. It's irrelevant
what we did before because the City Commission sent it back to
US.
Mr. Manes: Okay, we're just trying to clarify
things. We're not really in discussion yet.
Mr. Benjamin: Well, Mr. Chairman, a copy of the
ordinance I have here, it says 30 ft. from the crown of the
nearest adjacent local arterial street, whatever that means, I
don't know what it means and then in another section it says, "30
ft."--where is it, I missed it already --anyway that's what it
says.
Mr. Rodriguez: The way you have there is
recommendation from the Planning Department...
Mr. Benjamin; (Mumbled. Inaudible.)
Mr. Manes: Any further questions for Mr. Knox'..
at this time? Okay, we may want to check with you again,
Mr. Knoxf thank you.'
Mr. Knox: Yes, sir, thank you.
Mr. Manes; Is there anybody else wishing to
speak either for or against agenda item number 5? (Pause)
Mr. 14hipple.
Mr. Whipple; yes, sir, if I may address the
last 00int, If you may remember this all started out
• initially.,.
Mr. Zenjamin; That was the last point?
12 July 18, 1964, Item 5
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;chat was _ne Last print?
Mr. ��ttlipp e ., . the last toint had to do with
the height with respect to the questions oL the Board. Tha ,�nb1e
item initially started out with height only and as you ta7
remember, increased to potential spacing, to angles and to the
consideration as to where the height was teaturea f om. 1.4e had
siMply stated grade which is a tent that is comtonly used in the
City of Matti in its Zoning regulations and we had 30
ft. above grade. We got into a debate as to grade because at
that tote the Hancocc Co. suggested well; what happens if you
have an elevated expressway, what is grade? As far as we're can
see...we're concerned, grade is grade and as long as that was a
question then we have specifically clarified in the provisions in
front of you where the grade is and we put it in relation to the
crown of the adjacent rights -of -way and we allow a 5 ft.
variation if there's some probLem with the undulation of the
grade in that particular" area at the discretion of the Zoning
Administrator. Again, the whole point is that we feel a 30 ft.
height limit on billboards overall in the City of Miami on
arterial streets, streets where they are permitted by certain
zoning districts and what hay. you, 30 ft, is a proper height.
Now then, if you want 50 height....50 ft. height, then you
obviously must be talking about expressways and that's what I
said at the beginning of our comments with regard to the height
of 50 ft. iq tied to the allowance of billboards along
expressways. If you don't allow billboards along expressways,
then I would suggest you accept our reco.:,.nendations and
definitions of grade and set the height at 30 ft.
.Secondly, Mr. Knox as Mr. Price did at the last time
this item was before you, cited one or two sections out of a
thirty-six page state law which I'd be glad to read all but to
you, but one item that Mr. Knox did not mention contained 'in this
bill this year, well, one of the prime items, was a clarification
as to the standing of municipalities with respect to state law as
the law applies along expressways or in municipalities and it
very specifically, along with Dade County's law incidently,
states that the municipality may enforce anything more
restrictive or stringent than the state law provides. In other
words, they're not telling the City of Miami that we must allow
billboards along expressways and we will allow them with 1,500
ft. spacing; they're not telling 'us to do that.. They do tell us
very specifically in that legislation, it's up to this
jurisdiction or other municipalities or counties to enact the
regulations they deem appropriate for their municipality or
jurisdiction.
Mr. Manes: I think that was ;Wade pretty clear
to the Board but we thank you for your clarification. Is t.".ere
anybody else wishing to speak on this item? Any closing
comments, Mr. Knox?
Mr. Knox: I'd just like to make one final
comment, if you please, Mr. Chairman, and that is that assuming
that this Board desires to implement the policy as it appears_to
have been articulated by the City Commission, then it is
necessary therefore to be consistent in the application of that
policy and I refer specifically to the question of height. If
indeed signs are to be constructed in such a manner that they may
be seen from the expressways or federal --aid 'highways then it is
incumbent upon the Department to recommend a height where they
would not create a safety hazard by having signs that individuals
on the expressway would have to strain to seQ and I woul,41 have no
further comment beyond that unless there's some additiona'_.
Question from the Board.
Mr. Manes:
Thank you, Mr, Knox.
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at -aft tli�n.
Mr, i�aflly5: Thank YOU Very much. ti theCa'g
no one else wishing to spear do this item we're going to close
the public inert of the hearing, go into discussion ar►onq the
Board ti e►nbers.
Mr. Armesto-Garcia: Mr. Chairman?
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Mr. Manes: Mrs Arttesto-Garca.
Mr. Arttesto-yGarcia: Yes, I will stove for a motion.
Mr. ,Manes! Okay, t realize you're well
pretared for the meeting. t think just a suggestion I may havito
I don't know what your motion is, but I think the first item that
we need to address is whether Or not the Board wihhes to have
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billboards facing the exprestt. ay. I think a notion first -
answering that question will be required so that we Can deal with
all the other items. I wouldn't want to have one motion
addressing six different thin,�s:
Mr. Armesto-Garcia: Okay, then I will move for the
motion facing ... that the Board -allows the billboard facing the
expressway.
Mr. Diego: And I second the motion.
Mr. Manes: Okay, is there any discussion an
the motion? (Pause) Okay, the motion made by Mr. Armesto-
Garcia, seconded by. Mr. Diego...
Ms. Kolski: Yes, Mr. Chairman, are we still
open to discussion?
Mr. Manes: Yes, we are.
Ms. Kolski: I think I established quite well
at the last meeting wherein we discussed this item that I am not
in favor of billboards facing the expressway and I ask my fellow
board members to please consider what Professor Malt had to say.
Blocking our visibility is a trespass upon our rights. It
destroys community values. It presents a traffic safety problem
i.�
in an area where traffic is going at higher rates of speed and
bumper to bumper and it also is an aesthetic intrusion and ruins
the view from the expressway of the City. I do not feel that the
angle should be facing the expressway. I think it's a severe
-
distraction and if we are going to vote in favor of this, that
means we're voting against all of those things that he mentioned.
Thank you.
Mr. Armesto-Garcia: Mr. Chairman... '
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Mr. Manes: Mr. Armesto-Garcia.
'
Mr. Armesto-Garcia: ...I would like to respond for a
minute. Number one, the Professor Malt says, he stated that he
has been here for quite a number of years as follows, in 1965 he
was invited to the White House but this is the first time I see
Professor here in the City chambers in this meeting of us. He ,
never took the time to come here before...
Mr. Manes; Is that...
Mr. Armesto-Garcia; ...I have the floor --took here
before. He has,,,must have some kind of personal interest
against the billboard in When he comes here tonight.
That's number one. Number two, I agree with fellow WrenZO
Luaoes when he states that those signs are helpful for the
14 July 18, 1984, Item 5
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turaIg1-1e, t haV4 Ce4M 'Ie'L +eta 611 those 6L1lhoarls in
Z=1l5 teat otlattno r ft_;,Ar Ta toa at s i,t o ` d!,O�r, four e),'Aloc?t in tnq
of tLrnco;t, f 3ti drili:lg, to Ocala; de sv►ne place, doCi' t know
where to stay and i see a aigm there, "Nett exit a Holiday Inflo"
and ne ext xit it will nave a Shall gas station, whatever it is
and those sighs help the tourist indu8tt7 and We need the tourist
industry here in ,Miami and we, need the billboard facing the
% highways.
Ks. Kolski: Mr.; .Chairman?
Mr. Manes: Ms. Kolski,
Ms.'Kolski: Professor Malt may have not shown
his face at City Hall very much, however, obviously he cares a
great deal about the item or he wouldn't have taken his time to
come here tonight and t1m sure a lot of people care about the
item but they're not here tonight., If we are to disregard all of
the things like safety and aesthetics and things like that, then
one wonders why are we disrerlarding it. Do we have an interest
in the billboards?
(A few laughs fro,a the audience)
Mr. Manes: Does that conclude your...
Mr. Luaces: Mr. Chairman?
Mr. Manes: Mr. Luaces.
Mr. Luaces: I believe that all of us here have
an interest in the City of Miami and I feel strongly that they do -
serve the community and the signs are all over the City of Miami
and nobody protested when those signs were erected in other parts
of the City and nobody live near the expressways.
Ms. Kolski: Mr. Chairman, people do live near
the expressway and people probably protested those signs.
Mr. Armesto-Garcia: Mr. Chairman, I will call the
question, please.
Mr. Manes: You'll need a second on that. Is
there a second on calling the question?
Mr. Luaces: Second. I second the...
Mr. Manes: Okay, Mr. Rodriguez, please call
the roll on calling the question. This is a motion to end debate
and will require a two-thirds vote.
(Secretary called the roll on calling the question)
AYES: Messrs. Manes, Correa, Luaces, Diego, Benjamin
and Armesto-Garcia
NAYES: Ms. Kolski
ABSENT: None.
Mr. Rodriguez: The motion carries 6 to 1.
Mr. Manes: Okay. The question has been
called, the vote has passed bly a twQ-th rda vote. We're now
ready to take a vote on the motion that's on the floor. I'll
repeat it for the record. Made by Mr. Armesto-Garcia, seconded
by Mr. Diego to change the current...
Mr. Armesto-Garcia: ordinance.
Mr. Manes; .:.ordinance, whatever.
ek July l8, 1904( Item 5
planning x4viap"W7 Board
.`',r ?,cid 'stij` t9,. ;'I6110 two 3Ct3CtVq 61s.lbd..�rA.
the t rYeSs:va'}e .
Me, Manes. Right. So that billboar6a can
Ease the eXbressway. Please call the roll.
( Secre taty Called the toll)
AYES. Messrs, Manes, Senjamin, Diego, Luaces, Correa
and AM- dato-Garcia
NAYE,S: Ms. Xolski
ABStNT! None,
Mr. Rodriguez: The notion carries 6 to 1.
RESOLUTION PAS 75-84
RESOLUTION RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF AN
AMENDMENT TO THE TEXT OF ZONING ORDINANCE
9500, AS AMENDED, BY AMENDING ARTICLE 20
GENERAL AND SUPPLEMENTARY REGULATIONS,
SECTION 2026 SIGNS, SPECIFIC LIMITATIONS AND
REQUIREMENTS BY ALLOWING SIGNS TO FACE
EXPRESSWAYS.
Mr. Manes: Thank you. Mr. Armesto-Garcia.
Mr. Armesto-Garcia: Now, Mr. Chairman, the next part
of my motion is that I move that 9500 be amended to permit
outdoor advertising signs within. 600 ft. of limited access
highways and expressways. That is the other motion. That's the
way you want it, no? .
Mr. Manes: Yes, I think that's the
appropriate way to do that.
Mr. Armesto-Garcia: Okay, that's good.
Mr. Manes: When you say to allow them within,
do you wish to include any limits or recommendations as to how
close they may be or just...
Mr. Armesto-Garcia: The signs may face the roadway up
to 90 degrees.
Mr. Manes: Okay, but we're talking about
distance from the expressway. Do you wish to substitute any new
distance?
Mr. Armesto-Garcia: Six hundred feet of limited
access,
s sz as
Mr. Manes; No, you're saying within 600 ft.
Do you just wish to say that they may be placed anywhere?
Mr. Armesto-Garcia; Anywhere. Anywhere.
Ms. Kolski; How about the median strip.
Mr. Armesto-Garcia; The median strip's part of the
expressway. Please don't insult my...our fellows' intelligence.
Mr. Manes: Okay, okay.
Mr. Armesto-Garcia; We're talking about signs facing
the expressway, not inside the expressway.
to uIon ?•tr. '-tan«,s: I r�kay. :� there a �ectnd to that
I IIW
Mr. Diego! YeS, l second that totif�n.
Mr. Manes: Okays we have 3 Motion made by
Mr. Artesto-darcia, seconded by Rr. Diego to allow outdoor
billboard advertisement, outdoor advertising signs also known as
bi`Abdardn, within 600 ft. of exptessways.
Mr. Armesto-garcia: And if we can appraise a friendly
amendment from Ms. Kolski, not in the median. I want she to be
happy.
' Mr. Manes: I don't think...
Ms. Kolski: .Sir, I don't feel the compulsion
to be particularly friendly. t don't think we've been friendly
to the citizens of this City in this action.
Mr. Manes: Okay.
Mr. Maxwell: .fir. Chairman?
(Applause from the audience.)
Mr. Manes: Mr. Maxwell.
Mr. Maxwells Maybe the maker of the motion
would clarify, (cleared throat) excuse me, to exclude billboards
within the public right-of-way, at least making that some. line of
demarcation. -
Mr. Armesto-Garcia: Okay, to exclude the billboards on
the...that's of course, on the right-of-way, whatever you say,
Mr...
Mr. Maxwell: They are excluded by statute but
maybe you'd like to make it part of your motion.
Mr. Armesto-Garcia: We make sure we don't violate the
statute.
Mr. Manes: Did you have a comment, Mr. Rodriguez?
Mr. Rodriguez: I felt that was not necessary
because they are not allowed within the right-of-way anyhow.
Mr. Manes: They're not allowed.
Mr. Rodriguez: At this point, they're not
allowed.
Mr. Manes: Okay. Do you wish to make that
part of your motion?
Mr. Armesto=Garcia: Yes, I do.
Mr. Manes; Mr. Diego, do you wish to second?
Mr. Diego: Yes.
Mr. Manes: • Okay, motionasmade by Mr. Armesto-
Garcia is to allow billboards within 600 ft. from the expressway
but not on public right-of-way and made by Mr. Armesto-Garcia,
seconded by Mr. Diego. Is there any discussion, further
di,scussion? (pause) Being none, please call the roll.
17 July lo,, 1904, item 5
Manning .Mv '50r'y Boars
�2 ,teta't tV19 if 011
AYE 8.- Messts. '•lanes, C-40er!ia, Luades, Diego, aenjamin
and Ar;tcSto-Garcia
NAYES: Ms. Kd1ski
ABSENT: Norte.
Mr, Mdrlguet: The motiom carries 6 to 1.
RESOUI ttON PAB 76-54
RESOLUTION RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OP Ari
AME►iOMCNT TO T#E TENT OF ZONING ORDWANCE
5500, AS AMENDED, BY 1,,48NDING ARTICLE 20
GENERAL AND SUPPLEMENTARY REGULATIONS,
SECTION 2026 SIGNS, .SPECI?tC LIMITATIONS AND
REQUIREMENTS BY PEPHITTING THE ERECTION or
SIGNS WITHIN 600 FT. Off` ANY LIMITED ACCESS
HIGHWAY, INCLUDING 8XPRESSWAYS, BUT EXCLUDING
THE PUBLIC RIGHT-OV--WAY.'
Mr. Manes: ,Mr. Armesto-Garcia.
Mr. Armesto-Garcia: Now, the other part of the motion
would be to incorporate 1,500 ft. from any other permitted sign
on the same side of the highway, if on interstate highway and
1,000 ft. from any other permitted sign on the same side of the
highway if on a federal -aid primary highway.
Mr. Manes: is there a second to that?
Mr. Diego: Yes, I second the motion.
Mr. Manes: Okay. Motion made by Mr. Ar3esto-
Garcia is to have a spacing formula between signs of 1,500 ft.
minimum on interstate highways and 1,000 ft. on federal -aid
highways. Is that correct, Mr. Armesto-Garcia?
Mr. Armesto-Garcia: Yes, Mr. Chairman.
Mr. Manes: Motion made by Mr. Armesto-Garcia,
seconded by Mr. Diego. Is there discussion on -this?
Ms. Rolski; Yes. Mr. Chairman, I truly
believe that if you're going to move them closer, you're gonna
allow them at all, that you should have the spacing be ... you
should have them a lot'farther apart.
Mr. Manes: Well, we're going to discuss this,
I think, for a moment or two here. I have some discussion on
this. Does anybody else in the Board? (Pause) Okay, under`
discussion, I think there's a few things we need to take into
consideration here, one is that the wording as it's proposed by
Mr. Armesto-Garcia which was taken from the state wording is
clearly on this, you know, it clearly says on the same side of
the highway. I think that this Board ought to take into
consideration that with the spacing formula we're looking at here
and considering we've already seen pictures of signs on both
sides of the road that are crossing over so that you conceivably
could be going, let's say, northbound or southbound and see as
many as ten signs per mile on a federal. -aid highway and eight
s ns, roughly, ,
g g ! per mile on an interstate. I think that the
:Board ought to consider the amount of signs that you're actually
permitting with the wording that "fir, Armesto-Garcia has suggested
and that the state has built into their legislature. Does the
Board f0l1Qw my reasoning or my theory on that?
Mr. Armesto-Garcia; yes.
.itlilLJi tJ theta illy 1W4�111iM4,Mk-4 ; q�i'�j�e i�a��
bn nis?
Ns. Kolski: Yeah, ghat dues the state
recommend aain
Mr. Mates: the state is eecoffimend iftg a
minimum of 10500 it. on interstate highways which IS t-96 aAd
ij000 it. on federal -aid highways which t guess would be like
$3.fr 82...916, 826, 112,.. , 3
At, Armesto-Garciat 'that's right.
Mr. Hanes! ..►and you know, and they're
stating that on the same side of the highway. As we've seen in
the pictures that Mr. Whipple presented, there can be signs, yc-s
know, directly opposite each other' facing this wary and they could
be spaced every, you know, 11000 it. or 1#500 ft. as the case --ay
be.
Ms, Kolski: Okay, well, how many feet away
from the expressway do they have to be?
Mr. Manes: ,There's no...we've just removed
the restriction on it.
MS. Kolski: No, I mean in the state pro-1 sic t.
Mr. Manes: The wording that Mr. Arnmestc-
Garcia has recommended is the state provision.
Ms. Kolski: Yeah, but how many... +
Mr. Whipple: But that's not the stag
recommendation. It is what the state law indicates. it is not
their recommendation to this body or to the City of Miami.
Mr. Manes: But it's a provision in their..
Mr. Whipple: Yeah, but everybody was saying
recommended by the state and that's not the case. It's not
recommended by the state.
Ms. Kolski: Okay, okay, in the state
provisions, the state law, they're saying 1,500 ft. but how many
feet from the expressway do they have the billboard?
—i
Mr. Manes: I believe the ordinance is ;mute en
that.
Mr. Whipple: I'm sure Mr. Garcia has that
information.
Mr. Armesto-Garcia: That is according to the special
zoning of the place where the sign is going to be. If it's :�..._
commercial, it is cultural, it is residential, whatever it is, it
has different formulas of different feet. If you want to co into
this and do that as a practice•for...filibustering to have this
until, 12 o'clock tonight and these people from Coconut Grove
waiting for this thing to be resolved, we can have those
questions and thee: we can call Tallahassee but I'm telling you
that each case is treated different according to the zoning of
_ the proper place where they are applying for the permit. When
the sign outdoor company applies for the permit, he has to
specify where it's going to be located and then the local rules
and
apply to that permit. I don' t know, you give me an example
--
yay;pianes! y '•15, 01i k,i's yud�tioM ',dons
p oc�iaty. t behave �4r. ♦•+ 1 t.piq{,. byr�q ,tit i quaiiritii-d av� �. 11 Cr .t 111 ilt W •9 4�..
answer thatt
Mt. Knox: 'Thank you, if I !nay. the State
Statutes provide two measures. One is simply outside of the
right -of -Way of the roadway and the Second alternative under
certa.ih oircuftstances is 15 ft. from the outside or the inside
edge of the roadway. to other words, you measure 15 ft. from the
edge of the roadway out and sighs,can not be within one or twor
one of those two distances.
Hr. an ea Is that if there's no City
ordinance or municipal ordinance that otherwise would restrict
i t?
Mr. Knox: !tight. The municipal ordinances,
of course, or the municipalities do have the power to impose
reasonable restrictions consi.,tent with the carrying out of the
policy.
Mr. Manes: mr.`Maxwell? Are you in agreement
basically?
Mr. Maxwell: 'Yes, I am,..
Mr. Armesto-Garcia:_ That will be case of Miami.
Mr. Maxwell: ...the State Statute sets minimum
standards.
Mr. Manes: Okay, thank you. Well, I'don't
think that, you know, basically, I, in my opinion, I don't think
that the distance from the expressway is at issue, you know, on
this. We're looking at the spacing of signs and how close they
may be to each other and the question I raised is that when you
have signs this close to each other and then you can allow them
on both sides of the street that close to each other, you have
literally, a never-ending progression of signs, you know, given
all the other circumstances.
Ms. Kolski: Well, that's... that's what I don't
want either and what I'm thinking about is they're saying 11500
ft. counting on the fact in most areas you have, you have .
restrictions on how close you can get to the roadway and since
we're gonna allow it right up to it, then I think the separation
should be a lot greater.
Mr. Manes: Well, I, you know, I'm basically
in agreement...
Mr. Luaces: Mr. Chairman?
Mr. Manes: Mr. Luaces.
Mr. Luaces: Yes, Mr. Garcia, I do believe that'"
the 1,500 ft. would be a little bit close. Don't you think,we
should allow it a little bit even though I agree that they should
be on expressways? I feel that the 1,500 ft., if they're going
to be...it's going to be reduced to 725 whatever...
Ms. Kolski;
Seven hundred and fifty.
Mr. Luaces: 1 1 ...750 because they're going to be
facing both sides. The same sign is going to have two faces.
One sign with two faces. so actually they're going to be a lot
closer,
Ali`. Ar�►es�,o�daroia: i,►C��.`=�1`1��r � �tSti' � �i1�1i� sf.� b��,.'�u�
r1 a 4t. 1� '�rtat u`.:iGs 3CicxG >t l Cyt a adopia rJ, not
reco; r�tended, 3c�bbt4d 18 a law. tt' a 4 law of the state oe
i for lda that the tax innum is i, 500 ft. we can Ieg is la te..
,mr. Manes: The miftimum.
MLA. ArMeeto-Garcia: t rtlean the rttinimum-r=we can
legislate to have another. tyde of :tliiliMUtft f...Y think it's not
proper and they legislate and they pass the law and the governor
signed the law 1r500 ft. from eaoh .sign# from one to the next
one. He showed us on the screen how big is the distance of 1#500
ft., 1#000 ft. and 500 ft. and I think it's reasonable, 1#500 ft.
Mr.' Luaces: Let me ask you a question because
I'rt a little bit confused. The signs that you showed us were
1r000...10500 ft, away or you mentioned 500 ft. away?
Mr. Whipple: I Mentioned two dimensions, one
550 and one 1#000 on the examples that I showed you.
.Mr. Armesto-Garcia: He nester mentioned the 1,500.
Fifteen hundred's greater than that. It's greater than that.
Mr. Luaces: Yes. Right# then you're right.
Right. So it's going to be about that distance awayr pat.
_E Mr. Armesto-Garcia: Twice that.
z
Ms. Kolski: Mr. Chairman?
Mr. Luaces: It's going to go out 750 from what
he showed you...
Mr. Manes: Well, Mr. Luaces, just so you
understand. The distance between the signs will still be 1,500
ft. on each side of the road whether it's facing one way or
facing the other way...
f Mr. Luaces: No, I under...
Mr. Manes: There'll still be 1,500 ft.
between the two...
Mr. Luaces: So actually there's going to be
750 ft. from one side of the road and the other side of the road.
They could be...
Mr. Manes: No, not necessarily. The two
sides of the road have nothing to do with each other.
Mr. Luaces: Oh, yes. You're not going to have
— a sign that may be exactly in the middle because you're going to
be allowed the...
Mr. Manes: Oh, no, you see, on different
�. sides of the road, you can have the signs parallel to each other.
Mr. Luaces: Fifteen hundred feet.
—; Mr. Manes; Well you can have them 1,500 ft.,
you can have them staggered but you know, let's just take one
side of the road at any one time.
_ Mr. Luaces; t You may have two, I know, you may
have two that are going to be 400 ft. away but then the next one
is going to be 900 ft. away.
21 J41y 18, 1984, Item 5
Planning Advisory Board
�tr r�te� t ®�sa rd is : e i 4 * &en huftd k ad r r i*hu . Always
its . c� s1 At. duestidit please
for xr, Whipple, A Wtiipple► these slides that you showed us
with the bill'b6aeds along the palmetto, how oar frort the
expressway t the roadway, were thay2
Mr. Whipple: In the majority...
Mr. Manes! adEore you answer that...Ms.
Kolski, that's not an issue here. '
Ms. Kol.aki! lt's an issue with rye.
Mr. Manes: Well it may be an issue but it has
nothing to do with the spacing on the sighs. you know, we can,,.
legislate the distance from:..
Ms. Kolski: 'I think it does. t think it does.
We either have them,..we either have them bang, bang, bang right
after each other or we have them spread out a little bit.
Mr. Manes: Well, you see, the distance from
the expressway to the sign will.not influence the spacing between
signs...
Kr. Diego: Mr. Chairman you want me to call
g �
the question?
- Mr. Manes: I don't want you to do anything...
q Ms. Kolski: I asked a question. I have a
#t right to get it answered. -
Mr. Manes: Okay. Mr. Whipple, can you answer
that?
i. Mr. Whipple: Yes, sir. In the majority
of...well, not the majority, half the instances along Palmetto,
ie signs are immediately adjacent. to the right-of-way line. In
t„e other half, there might have been an intervening street or an
intervening exit ramp off of which they had to follow the right-
of-way line which would remove them slightly. If there was a
parallel street, it would remove them back the distance of that'
street.
Ms. Kolski: Okay, but just tell me in feet.
Hcw many ... how far away are they from the road where people are
driving?
Mr. Whipple: I would say in half the instances.
they were immediately adjacent to the right-of-way line and the
other they were approximately 75 ft. off of the right-of-way
line.
Ms. Kolski: All right, thank you. --:r
Mr. Manes: Mr. Armesto-Garcia, do you
understand the question that I raised where, you know, if we
allow the spacing formula that you're working with now, that this
would allow, you know, signs on both sides of the street, facing
both directions at all times, do you understand.,, do you follow
me?
Mr, Armesto-Garcia: Yes, sir. Yes, but also.,,also.,.
how many instances can this happen within the limits of the City
Of 3iami? We are here trying to legislate about: the whole
Palmetto and the palmetto doesn't belong to the City of Hiami,
i
`•1r, "'lanes: .
'No, no, WeII you 04ea, , r
Re, Artesto-Garcia: I Lean, let's be r'ealittid, how
many Miles of the Pal;rtetto ctoss the City of Miami and front
that..,that amount of .;tiles of the Pal�itetto that crosses the City
of Ai,amii of that artdunt, how Many Mil?s are usable in both
sides? Ninety -Mine percent is using only One side because the
ether Aside is used by buildings. It's improper to use, They can
ntt use it.
Mr. Manes: We.11 # we have, .. t dory t know if
the planning Department has a number of idles of expressway but
between 1120 826f 836, 1-95 and I don't know if there's any other
federal highways but we have riles and miles and idles and we're
looking at, you know, between 8 and 10 signs per ;Wile,
conceivably.
Mr. Armesto-Garcia: Mr. Chairman, this is the reason I
want this motion presented for me and let0s get it to vote and
don't delay anymore because there are people here...
Mr. Manes: 'We're under discussion.
Mr. Armesto-Garcia: '...hoping...hoping---it's almost 9
o'clock --hoping that we have the Coconut Grove affair tonight
here and the way it is going I don't see a way for the Coconut
Grove tonight.
Mr. Manes: Well, we're addressing the sign
issue right now and the Coconut Grove people are being very
patient, we appreciate that. They're very concerned I think also
on the signs and they wouldn't want us to make a hasty decision,
you know, using their behalf, their well-being, as an excuse
there but I'm just trying to, you know, find out here...at our
last meeting we, you know, we had reduced it on federal -aid
highways from 1,000 to 1,500 ft. so there would be that 1,500 ft.
spacing on both types of highways and now I'm, you know, as Mr.
Knox has read the state wording there, you know, it's clearly
that they say both sides of the road so I want to bring to the
attention of the board...
Mr. Armesto-Garcia: Yes, I know it's both sides of the
road...
Mr. Manes: Okay.
Mr. Armesto-Garcia: ...and probably next generation
that visit in here will decide what they do with the outer space
but now we got the two sides of the roads.
Mr. Manes: Okay.
Ms. Kolski: Mr. Chairman, if we need to know
what's -happening in outer space, we'll know who to send.
- r
Mr. Manes: Okay, well we don't want to
get...we don't want to get too far away from the subject.
Mr. Whipple; Mr. Manes, I'll be glad to answer
the question if you want the question answered. I'll be glad to
answer it if you want the question answered.
Mr. Manes; • No, I think we're okay, Is there
any other comments or questions? If not, we're ready to call the
roll.
Juiy 18, 1904, Item 5
VIAM-1ing Advisor. -I 30ard
(bed ttaty dalied the toll)
AYES: Me88rt, Ar testo-Garcia, genjamift, Diego,
Correa and Luades
NAYESt Ms. Kolzki
Messr, Mates
S AgS= t None.
Mr. Rodtiguet!
The motion carries 5 to 2.
'RESOLUTION PAS 77-84
RESOLUTION RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF AN
AMENDMENT TO THE TEXT OF -ZONING ORDINANCE.
9500, AS AMENDED, BY' AMENDING ARTICLE 20
GENERAL AND SUPPLEMENTARY REGULATIONS,
SECTION 2026 SIGNZS, SPECIFIC LIMITATIONS AND
REQUIREMENTS BY ALLOWING A MINIMUM 1,500 FT.
SPACING BETWEEN SIGNS ON THE SAME SIDE OF THE
HIGHWAY ON AN INTERSTATE HIGHWAY, AND 1,000
FT. BETWEEN SIGNS ON THE SAME SIDE OF THE
HIGHWAY ON A FEDERAL -;-AID PRIMARY HIGHWAY.
Mr. Manes:
Mr. Armesto-Garcia.
Mr. Armesto-Garcia: Now, the last ;notion on th; s
matter is that no sign...no sign shall exceed 50 ft. in sign
structure height above the crown of the main -traveled way and no
sign shall exceed 750 sq. ft. of sign facing per sign face.
Mr. Luaces: Mr. Chairman?
Mr. Manes: Mr. Luaces.
Mr. Luaces: Mr. Garcia, I would like to second
your motion but I would like to keep it within the recomc--enda-
tions of the State of Florida and have a cap of 65 ft.
Mr. Armesto-Garcia: I will do that, too. I
incorporate that. We will ... okay, you want to...
Mr. Luaces: Yes, I would like to second the
motion...
Mr. Armesto-Garcia:
Mr. Luaces:
of 65 ft. as, more or less...
I accept the amendment.
...and you amended to have a cap .
Mr. Armesto-Garcia: Instead of 50 ft., 65 ft. you
want?
Mr. Luaces: With a cap.
Mr. Armesto=Garcia: With a...and no sign shalt. exceed
50 ft, with a cap of 65 ft. in sign structure height above the
crown of the main traveled way and no sign shall exceed 750 sq.
ft, of sign facing per sign face. That's the motion.
Mr. Manes;
Mr. Luaces?
Mr. Luaces;
Mr, Manes:
that, ..►ft, Maxwell?
Mr, na weli;
Is that what you're seconding,
Yes.
okay. Before we, . ,we repeat
14 r 'tames:
Mr. maxwells .-Luadest is that the maker of
the ffiotioh?
Mr. mand!.g! Not Mr, Artnesto-Garcia is the
maker of the fflotiOn,
91
am the maker.
Mr. Maxwell: Right, 8ecauge of the
conversation that transpired during that notion, I think you
should restate specifically what your motion is.
Mr. Arme:sho-Carclat The motion is no Sign shall exceed
so ft. in sign structure height above the crown with a cap of 6S
ft. maximum of the main -traveled highway and no,,,,.
Mr. Rodriguez: t don't understand.
Mr, Manest You don't understand that?
Mr. Rodriguez: I'm sorry, but I don't understand
your motion.
Mr. Manes: Okay.
Mr. Armesto-Garcia: Okay, I do it. No sign shall
exceed 65 ft6 in sign structure height above the crown of the
main -traveled way i * f inside an incorporated area and no sign
shall exceed 750 sq.-ft. of sign facing per sign face.
Mr. Manes: Mr. Maxwell.
Mr. Maxwell: The motion included the phrase
inside an incorporated area. We're talking...
Mr. Armesto-Garcia: Which is the City of Miami. The
City of Miami is an incorporated area.
Mr. Maxwell: Right, but you.
Mr. Armesto-Garcia: We are not legislating about
unincorporated area because unincorporated area is Dade County.
Mr. Manes: Okay, but we...
Mr. Maxwell: I understand that but I think your
motion...you know, leave that out.
i Mr .. Benjamin: Leave it out. You can leave it
out.
Mr. Armesto-Garcia: Okay, I take it out.
(&veryone in audience laughed)
Mr. Manes; Okay, and I think Mr. Luaces
wanted you to put in there that, you know...did you say there
were,,,
Mr. Armesto-Garcia: Sixty-five feet.
Mr. Manes; Sixty-five feet cap,
Mr. Daces; That would be the maximum height.
Mr. Armesto-Garcia; The maximum height. Sixty-five,
lat 1934, item 5
Planntng Advisory 0,04rd
1-1r,
Aodotquit,
To be tddlut4d fftM, 'mh4rLO
Mr.
Manes.,
He mentioned 2.0.10M the drown...
Mr.
Arme9to-Garcia:
from the crown...
Mr,
Manes-.
... of the Main-ttaveled way.
Mr.
Armetto-Garcia;
... 6,f the main -traveled way.
Mr.
Maxwell!
Again Mr. Chairman, I'm, sorry.
Until that Motion is dlear# it
will not be pro per4ba
Mr.
Rodriguet!
Because t understand that the
motion before
was 50 et. height from the crests how could you
have a cap of
65 from the crest?
Mr.
Armesto-Garcia:
We never mentioned the crest,
Mr. Rodriguez.
We mentioned the crown of the main"traveled way.
Mr.
Luaces:
Not the motion that he proposed
first was 50
ft. above the crown...
Mr.
Rodriguez:
Right.
Mr.
Luaces:
,,and I suggested to him that it
will not exceed 65 ft.
Mr.
Whipple:
Well in what conditions would it
exceed 50 ft.
if you say 50 ft.?
Mr.
Luaces:
Above the crown.
Mr.
Manes:
Mr. Armesto-Garcials motion was...
Mr.
Whipple:
In what conditions would it go to
65?
Mr.
Manes:
..;from the crown of the main -
traveled way.
It was on an elevated...
Mr.
Armesto-Garcia:
Right.
Mr.
Luaces:
Sixty-five from grade.
Mr.
Rodriguez:
Okay.
Mr.
Luaces:
it will not exceed, and I get it
now, it will
not exceed 65 ft.
from grade, I stand corrected,
from ground level.
Mr. Armesto-Garcia:
Mr. Luaces:
Mr. Whipple:
9t. comment?
Mr. Manes:
Mr. Whipple:
grade?
Okay.
From grade.
Are you eliminating then the ..50
No, the 50 ft. applies...
You're just saying 65 ft. above
Mr. Manes; No, the 50 ft. applies from the
crown of the main -traveled way, my understanding of the...you
know, if the expressway goes up on a ramp then the crown of the
expressway would be changing.
Mr. Armesto-Garcia; Right,
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�}y1{ yhy tj'IYr .y r'hi�p_ ,tyi.e t �y y And the �iqh can q6 '0 �t a higher
than t'A (iG ele�yated �xpresa�iayi
elevation,Mr. Manes! 1kight. Up to IS ft. of expressway
Mr. Whipple: Plifty feet above the expressway?
Mr. Luacea! No, hot rto, no, no. No, that's not it.
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Mr. Armeato-Garciat Not sir.
Mr..Luaces., Let ire repeat it.
Mr. Manes: Well up to the first 15 ft, with a
cap of 65 ft.
Mr. Luaces: "NO.
Mr. Manes! I understand it perfectly.
Mr. Armesto-Garcia't Yes.'
Mr. Luaces: No, no. Let me repeat it.
Mr. Armesto-Garcia: The maximum will be 55 ft.
Mr. Luaces: The maximum height that a sign may
have will be 65 ft. from grade.
Mr. Rodriguez: Right.
Mr. Luaces: So this elevated expressway like
in downtown Miami, there's no use in having a sign there because
you will not be able to see it from the expressway.
Mr. Rodriguez: Right.
Mr. Whipple: It's not true incidently.
Mr. Luaces: Not clear yet.
Mr. Rodriguez: No, if I...
Mr. Whipple: No, it's just not true. But
what's the second part?
Mr. Benjamin: It's clear to us.
Mr. Armesto-Garcia: The second part is that the no
sign shall exceed,750 sq. ft. of sign facing per sign face.
Mr. Whipple: What happened to the 50 ft. that's
what I'm trying to...
Mr. Rodriguez: If I... if I may to see if I
understood your motion.
Mr. Armesto-Garcia: Yes.
Mr. Rodriguez: No sign shall exceed 50 ft. in
height from the crown of the main -traveled expressway...
.Mr. Manes; Well, way,
Mr..Armesto-Garcia; Way.
Mac. Rodriguez; ...with a cap of 65 above grade
from adjacent route.
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At, Manes: Pight.
Mr, 90drigueta That's what i thought out it
wasnit ;nentibned like that before.
Mr. Armesto-Garcia: Exactly, Exactly.
Mr. Manes: Okay; yelp and then there's also
included in that that no sign shall exceed 7S0 sq. ft. of total
surf.acF area& is that correct, on one face?
Mr. aen j amin : 'yeah.
Mr. Rodriguez! Yea, sir.
Ms. Kolskit 'Mr. Chairman, does that mean from
the ground? Does all that boil down to where it -goes into the
ground, 65 ft.?
Mr. Manes: Well that's the maximum.
Mr. Rodriguez: Right, max.
Mr. Manes: Okay, and that's the motion that
you're making, Mr. Armesto-Garcia?
Mr. Armesto-Garcia: Yes.
Mr. Manes: And that's what you're seconding, N
Mr. Lorenzo Luaces?'
Mr. Luaces: Yes.
Mr. Manes: Okay, the motion on...well the
motion made by Mr. Armesto-Garcia is to allow billboards up to 50
ft. above the crown of the main -traveled way with a maximum of 65
ft. above the grade of --what is itt called exactly, the grade of
the road?
Mr. Rodriguez: Grade of the adjacent... adjacent.
grade.
Mr. Manes: The adjacent grade of the city,
let's say, and also that no sign shall exceed 750 sq. ft. of
surface area on any exposure. Is that...
Mr. Armesto-Garcia: Right.
Mr. Rodriguez: Per sign face.
` Mr. Armesto-Garcia: Per sign face. "Right.
Mr. Manes: It was made by Mr. Armesto-Garcia.,
seconded by Mr. Luaces. Is there any discussion on that motion?
Mr. Benjamin: Call the question.
Mr. Manes: Mr. Maxwell.
Mr. Maxwell.: I think the Board should be clear
on the definition of main -traveled way.
Mr. Manes: Okay. In the Previous motion we
approved billboards facing expressways and if the billboard is
facing the expressway, we're working under the assumption that
that's the main -traveled way.
28 July 18f 1944, Item 5
Pl4nninq Advisory Board
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At, 8o you are 9ajidg 70u Will alldw
then 6 Et, above the expres8wa7?
ML i Hands!
Mr. A►rttesto-(3ardia: Right.
r -
Mr. Manes: Up to a maximum of 65 It. above
grt)ut:d, grade, crest, call it what- yOu will.
Mr. Luaces: No, there's a difference 'between
ground and grade.
Mr. Manes: Ground and grade. Well you're the
construction expert there.
Mr. Luaces: 'Specifically there's a difference.
The difference may be about 7 ft. because grade is grade and the
crown of the road is something else.
Mr. Manes: Ckay, 65 ft. maximum commencing at
the crown of the adjacent local,or arterial street.
Mr. Benjamin: 'That's it.
Mr. Am.esto-Garcia: Well, that's it.
Mr. Manes: How's that?
Mr. Rodriguez: If that's what he wants.
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Mr. Manes: This is wording coming out of our
fact sheet here. Let's see, establish the height of signs
commencing at the crown of the adjacent local or arterial street.
So that's where the 65 ft. cap would start.
Mr. Armesto-Garcia: Okay.
1
Mr.
Manes:
But it would go up to 50 ft.
higher than the crown of the main -traveled way...
Mr.
Benjamin:
Right.
.be
Mr.
Manes:
...which would interpreted as
-
the road, the
main street, that the sign is facing.
Mr.
Benjamin:
Don't interpret it, Mr. Chairman.
Mr.
Armesto-Garcia:
Yes, that's it.
Mr.
Manes:
Any further discussion? Are we
clear on the
motion, Mr. Rodriguez?
Mr.
Armesto-Garcia:
Yes.
Mr.
Rodriguez:
Fifty feet from the crown ... •I have
it somewhere.
(Everybody
laughed)
Mr.Man
It's all being recorded. We've
got it, Please the roll.
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( Seere tatp called the t611 )
AYES: Messtt, Manes, Di4(10t ArMdAtO-G'atvia) COttea,
8dM jamin and Luedes
NAYESt Ms. Kdleki
ASSENT: None.
Mr. Aodtigue2: The Motion carries 6 to 1
RESOLUTION PAS 78-84
RESOLUTION RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF AN
AMENDMENT TO THE TEXT OF ZONING ORDINANCE
9500, AS AMENDED, BY AMENDING ARTICLE 20
GENERAL AND SUPPLEMENTARY REGULATIONS,
SECTION 2026 SIGNS,,SPECIFIC LIMITATIONS AND
REQUIREMENTS BY PROJIDING FOR BILLBOARD
HEIGHT TO SE 50 FT. FROM THE CROWN OF THE
MAIN -TRAVELED ROAD,!IN RELATION TO
EXPRESSWAYS, 'WITH A MAXIMUM OF 65 FT, FROM
THE CROWN OF THE NEAREST ADJACENT LOCAL OR
ARTERIAL STREET ANJ CLARIFYING THAT EACH SIGN
SURFACE SHALL NOT EXCEED 750 SQ. FT. AND PAGE
S OF THE OFFICIAL SCHEDULE OF DISTRICT
REGULATIONS MADE A PART OF SAID ORDINANCE
9500, AS AMENDED, BY REFERENCE AND
DESCRIPTION IN SECTION 320 PERTAINING TO CG
GENERAL COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT,
LIMITATIONS ON SIGNS,
Mr. Manes:
Mr. Armesto-Garcia?
Does that conclude your motions,
Mr. Armesto-Garcia: Yes, sir.
Mr. Manes: Does that answer all the questions
that the City Commission has asked this Board to review, the
viewing, the surface, the billboard height, billboard spacing
formula, angle of billboards? I believe we've covered all the
items.
Mr. Whipple: You have some more, Mr. Knox?
Mr. Knox: Oh no, sir, no.
Mr. Manes: No. Okay, I believe we've
finished it. Closing comment, Mr. Knox?
Mr. Knox: I'd just like to thank the Board
again and there is an understanding, I think, that the matter has
already been placed on the agenda for the City Commission's next
meeting. That is my information.
Mr. Maxwell: That is correct. That's correct.
Mr. Knox: Thank you so much, Mr. Chairman,
members of the Board.
Mr. Manes: Thank you, Mr. Knox.
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CITY COMMISSION
MEETING OF APRIL 26, 1984
PAGES 155-158
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Mayor Ptr"is Any *bjeotjana td that, Provided Mat it dries
not dxdeed three days donsedutivd?
Mr. Plummer: That's in the ftrAt, 2003.0.1 r Wait a minute,
With this tither Wording .. their problem, Mrs. Mayor, is three
days. Okay? I said to them under a normal aircumstances of
three days or as approved by the Com2ission, leaving the
latitude of this Commission to Make a decision.
Mr. Carollo. Mr. Mayor, what I'm more donderned with is not
the private darnivai operators that are going to be batinb
the profits, I'm dOnderned with the churches, Synagogues i. t
the City that are the ones that in my opinion really have
some legitimate doftcerns. And What I would like to do is to
have the opportunity to meet with some of the representa-
tines from some of the churches, synagogues, get their
opinions and come back with something Concrete.
Mayor Ferre: There is a motion by Commissioner Carollo that
this item be deferred to the next Zoning Meeting - contin-
ued, so that he will have the Opportunity to meet with some
of the affected parties. Is there a second?
Mr. Perez: Second.
Mayor Ferre: Is there further discussion? All right, call
the roll on the continuance.
The preceding motion to continue was introduced by
Commissioner •Carollo, seconded by Commissioner Perez and
_r passed and adopted unanimously.
67. BRIEF DISCUSSION AND RETURN TO PLANNING ADVISORY BOARD
FOR REVIEW A PROPOSED ORDINANCE TEXT CRANGE TO 9500
ENTITLED: SEC. 2026 ENTITLED: SIGNS, SPECIFIC LIMITA-
TIONS AND REQUIREMENTS.
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Mayor Ferre: Take up 30. This is on First Reading. All
right, sir.
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rir. Stuart Sisson: I'm not going to talk more than a
minute and I think I can make a suggestion that will be very
appealing to you and the Commissioners. I'm going to recom-
mend that you send this back to the Planning Advisory Board
for further consideration.
Mayor Ferre: Based on what, Mr. Simon?
Mr. Simon: There was a 3 - 3 vote, and I think we should.: -
get a recommendation if we possibly can frcm the Planning
Advisory Board. The issue before you is a very simple one.
We had recommended that there be a height limitation on
signs of 30 feet above the grade of the road. The Planning
De artment s recommendation was that it be �0 feet above the
p '
ground, -There is very little difference between these too
proposals,
Mayor Ferre: Wait a =inute, I don't understand this, One
is 30 feet above ground, the other one is 30 feet from the
crown of the road? ,
Mr. Simon: Yes, no, above the grade of the road. One id 30
reet above the grade of the road and the other R,s....
Mayor Ferre: Does that. include expressways when expresswayp
are 40 reef up in the ai:^'; okay, now I age :abet
Once is , Did you say there wan eery little s�if :stenos'
AFR Z6 le
00%
Mr, zigaon., WL6114 let Me 9AY this, in 2031t cases ",here are
very little dittairlftd4s Of dduraeo - there are some aaaas
Where there iA a Very eXtdnaiVe ditfirtnad-,
Mayor Ferre: I'll tall you what I'd be willing 1100 Iota on,
Itd be Willing to vote On it from the *rOwft Of tha road for
all ground level roads and all those teat are elevated roads
Would go back to the Planning Board.
Hr, Simon: Well, we think one of the thwib,193 that you should
consider is this., The old ordinance that you had had the
aritkoarioft that we favor, 30 feet above the grade of the road
and that was the rule in the City 04*4 Miami for many years,
You are suddenly going to make.... &
Mayor Ferre You're recommending t1&-14at we send it back to
the Planning...
Mr. Simon4. Tea.
Mr. Carollo: Mr. Mayor, what he is asking is reasonable.
Mayor Ferre: I agree. There is a motion by Co=issioner
Carollo that this item be referred to the ?fanning ... Yes,
staff will have an opportunity. Do you want to have the
opportunity now or before the Planning Co=is-s-4on?
INAUDIBLE RES?ONSE
Mayor Ferre: Go right ahead, air.
Mr. Richard Whipple: 'Mr. Mayor, the reason for bringing
this to the Commission and pursuing it is that the new
Zoning Ordinance is silent or very unclear as to the height
limit of signs. We believe it is important that a limit be
established as there is no clear one established in the
ordinance today. We, in fact, are utilizing a recommended
height that was,reco=end!3d to this Cc=Jssion approximately
a year ago in conjunction with some litigation and thisis
the same height, as Mr. S .1mon has p04 ",ad out, as was in 'the
old Zoning Ordinance as to 30 feet.. Specifically, the
wording of the old Zoning Ordinance which we've never had
any problem with for 19 years, and Mr. Simon point out,
simply reads: in commercial and industrial districts StriotS the
shall not exceed a height of 30 feet above the grade
of the street at which the sign is oriented. This grade
refers to ground level or surface grade. This has never
been questioned before and we don't see any problem with it
today.
Mayor Ferre: Further discussion? Al'_ right, thank you,
air. Call the roll.
The preceding motion to contiau4 was intr-oduced by
Commissioner Dawkins and
Carollo, seconded by Cc=issioner
passed and adopted unanimously.
Mayor Ferre: Did you want to say something?
Mr. Simon; Yes, I
U% ; 3 :
wanted to say t60_
When
you Bond it,
back, we have made
W -on3
two- other sung_esW
in the
letter that
--
I sent to you that
the PlanningAdvisor
Board
=ake recOm-
mendati=3 on. One
is the ridiculous requirement
that 3i$"
face away from the
road.,
Mayor Ferro; Well,
what 13 a sign for if
it is
50"'Wag to be
facing away from the
road?
APR 2 6484,
Mr, Simon: I *an't imagine what vaj. lue the Sign would hate,
it is a requirttant.
Mayor Ferre: Does the maker 614 the Motion have any ob ;?►r=
r tiona to indorpdrate that? Alm. right, what is your sedond
thing?
Mr. Simon: And the second thing that we _ would like is that
we would like to recommend to the City Comrtigsiorl 1000 Net
spacing requirement between ai,gns. Otherwise you're goi;:g
to get a tremendous proliferation of Signs in the City of
Miami and it is going to affect the aesthetics of the City.
Mayor Fevre: Do you have any objections to that, Mr.
�thipp�.e
-` Mr. Carollo: Do you think 1000 is enough Whipple, or do
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you think we should have snore?
Mr. Whipple: I'm not prepared to comment as to the reason-
ableness of the proposed regulation, my concern is that
there is some direction with respect to legislation before
- the Planning Advisory Board of which (1) we're not familiar
with or haven't proposed or have any legislation being
expounded nor does the Planning advisory Board so I'm not
s too sure what the Commission's direction is on this.
Mayor Fevre: Let me tell you what the Comais-sion's direc-
tion is. It was a 3 - 3 vote and the Commission is, there-
fore, sending it back so that they further deliberate on the
issue, (1 ) of height, (2) of the directions of signs and (3)
the spacing of signs. And we're not sending it back, Mr.
Simon, with all due respects to you, with any recommenda-
tions because then why are we sending it to them? We are
- sending it to for them to deliberate on those issues before
it comes to us.
—' Mr. Whipple: yes, but there is only one issue before this
Commission, that is the height of signs and the new issues
Would have to go through a new process.
a Mayor Ferre: Well, then that is something that we'll have
to deal with but I think the instructions from this Commis-
sion is that if possible - and that means if it is legal -
that you also consider the direction of the signs and the
spacing of the signs.
Mr. Dawkins: Is it a fact that we do have some law or
ordinance that says the sign has to be 90, 60 or 30 degrees
turned from the road?
Mr. Whipple: Yes, sir.
Z.
Mr. Dawkins: Wall, if, I am putting up a sign and it is at
an angle, I'm Zoing to run off the road trying to see it.
Mr. Whipple: No, sir, you would have to have a full. expla-
nation as to the reason for that angular relationship. It
specifically has to do with billboards along expressways, so
you end up with a basic decision (1) do you want to have
billboards along the expressways or not. If you do not, you
still need to allow billboards that might be adJapent to
expressways on adjacent streets but that are not oriented or
cannot be viewed «roar the expressway and that is one of the
reasons for the angles involved and *.he way thO ordi name
has been written which, has been its eff40t likew43e for 19
Years Without any diffioulty
Mr. Dawkins: But Mr. Whipple, Why 'd01414 I, a sign person,
rent Spa;e to put a sign hear a highway if people. from the
highway can't sce it.
*APIR 2 6 1084
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Mr, Wh'&pple: Not air, you'rd misu:tderstanding the quastibri.
T:1ey don' t rent Anna that oantlot be 14 ,11ded by the passing
motori.aWn 90 Whey don't build When that way,
Mayer Farm: CO=isaionee Dawkins, thane is a ifotion, hdrt
is a' second, it is clear, we've voted on it Haven't we?
} Mr. Ongie: yes, sir. y
Mayor Ftrre: And it has been amended to include whose thred
items and Wet re not voting on it today and I wan,: to tell
you I'm not saying how I'm going to vote, I resertte that for
when it comes back.
Mr. Simon: And we will not present something cold to the
Planning Advisory Board.
Mayor Ferre: Thank you, sir.
ROTE FOR THE RECORD: AGENDA ITEM 31 WAS CONTI2`UFD TO T28
MAY 10, 1984 HEET=G.
68. FORHALIZ12G RESOLUTION: A=ZQRIZE CITY MANAGE! TO
EXECUTE AN AGREEMENT WITH ATHALIE RANGE FOR PROFESSIONAL
LEGISLATIVE CONSULTANT SERVICES CONCERNING LEGISLATION
WHICH IMPACTS ON THE CITY OF MIAMI.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner
Carollo, who moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 84-493
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAG-
ER TO EXECUTE AN AGREEMENT, IN SUBSTAN-
TIALLY THE ATTACHED FORM, WITH ATHALTEE
M. RANGE FOR PROFESSIONAL LEGISLATIVE
CONSULTANT SERVICES CONCERNING LEGISL:.-
TION WHICH IMPACTS ON THE CITY OF MIAM I
AND ITS CITIZENS; ALLOCATING THEREFOR xN
AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $159000 FOR SUCH
SERVICES AND AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED
$6,000 FOR REIMBURSABLE EXPENSES FROM
SPECIAL PROGRAMS AND ACCOUNTS CONTINGENT
FUND.
(Here follows body of resolution, omit-
ted here and on file in the Office of
the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Perez, the resalu-
tion Was passed and adopted by the following vota-
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commi,43,oner Miller J. Dawk:.ns -
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
V.+4ce-Mayor Demetr _o Pere:, Jr.
Mayor Maurice A. Ferre
NOES; None.
ABSENT: None.
TRANSCRIPT
PLANNING ADVISORY BOARD
MEETING OF APRIL 4, 1984
ITEM 1,3
Planning r,, vi;Cty Sdard
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have a 8"eOd .al request this 4V4hiny, There's a geht: 4,tan 1,01 the
audiendn at thil' tiitle, gentleman or lady its the Audience that has
a plane to date i do item 413, Gould that person pleasa raise
their hand? tt that you, sir? Okay, if thert l t no ob"pction
frbM either the ad at:d or the public, we're gbhna take item 13 out
a of order and then return to our original agenda, (Pause)
There being mo discussion we'll now go into agenda 13.
i4e' ire gonna need to read this into the record, we'll be read7 for
you` in dust a moment, sirs sir, Rodriguez.
Consideration of amending the text of Ordinance 9SOb,
the Zoning Ordinance of the City of Miami, Florida, by
amending S'eotion 2026 entitled "Signs, Specific
Limitations and Requirements", article 20 entitled
"General and Supplementary Regulations" clarifying
billboard height; further, amending sheet 5 of the
Official Schedule of District Regulations made a part
of said Ordinance 5500 by reference and description in
Section 320 thereof, by providing for height
limitations on ground or free standing signs, onsite
and offsite, and incorporating the above textural
changes; and containing a repealer provision and a
severability clause.
Secretary filed proof of publication of Legal Notice of Hearing.
Mr. Manes:
will be presenting this?
Mr. Rodriguez:
Mr. Manes:
Mr. Whipple. Welcome!
'Thank you, Mr. Rodriguez. Who
Mr. Whipple.
Whenever you're ready,
Mr. Whipple: Good evening. For the record,
Richard Whipple, Chief of Land Development Division in the City
of Miami Planning Department. This is an amendment that is a, in
part a result of an oversight with the transition of Ordinance
6871 into Ordinance 9500. Ordinance 9500, pretty thorough in its
sign controls, did have specific regulation as to sign heights.
In the translation to 9500, we have found out that there are no
specific height limits included in the new Zoning Ordinance. Now
as the Board may be aware, there were certain amendments that
were up for consideration before the ... this Board and the City
Commission, particularly in relation to Ackerly Outdoor
Advertising problems and at that time, we had put in a provision
along with their concerns to limit the sign heights as they were
under Ordinance 6871 to 30 ft. However, that... although that has
passed First Reading, it has been sitting dormant for quite some
time and pursuant to recent activity with respect to outdoor
advertising, we feel it is necessary that the ordinance be
clarified as to what are the permitted sign heights and that the
remainder of the sign activity that was previously addressed will
come along in the future so we are very specifically and straight
forwardly saying that there are height limitations needed for
offsite signs and that is the proposal before you this evening
and we would lake to recommend your...that you recommend this
amendment to the City Commission.
Mr, Manes: Thank you, Mr. Whipple, Are
there any questions for Mr. Whipple at this time? if there are
no questions at this time we'll open the public hearing. This is
a public hearing item, ,s there anybody in the audience wishing
to speak either for or against this item? You wish to speak,
sir? Okay, we'll get to you in just one second. We're gonna
need first to have you sworn in, anybody wishing to speak that is
not an attorney be sworn in. Sir, are you an attorney? You're
not On attorney, Qkayf if you wish to speak, you'll need to
stand and be sworn in.. You too, sir.
1 April 4# 1934, Item 13
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w i Sh jn j to speak On this
Mr. Manes: Okay, just One second. Are you
in favor of thisr sir, 6r do you just have a question?
Man in audience: No, I would like to just to
introduce tyself. (Pause while somebody off the record told him
th'�s was not item j as he thought but Instead 13). I will ... t
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Mr. Manes!
Man in audience
Addreea`2
...introduce later.
Mr. Manes: Okay, thank you very much. Okay,
we always have the proponents speak first there. 'Mr. Hancocko
did you wish to speak on this?
Mr. Hancock: Yes. My name is Andy Hancock
with E. A. Hancock Advertising. I live at 3856'Douglas toad.
The reason I brought this up tonight and unfortunately I didn't
hear about it soon enough or I would have made sure you got some
further information on this item. I represent the outdoor
advertising business for myself but not all the other companies
because I don't believe they knew this was coming up tonight. I
think what you should consider is the 30 ft. height limitation
which is standard in the industry is all right but what you
should look at further and the only little addition that needs to
be made because probably of...somebody just didn't think about it
at the time, was that it should be 30 ft. above the grade of the
road which the sign is showing and the reason for that is a lot
of times the grade of the road is a lot higher than actually
where the sign is built and it reaches a point where you can't
even see it or it might be to the point where it's half what you
see. Aesthetically, anyway if that's the major argument that it
would be obviously much better for them to be a level height and
not scattered different heights all along. That's basically the.
only change I would like to make than what I think the staff has
presented.
Mr. Manes: .Okay, thank you. We may have
some questions for you, Mr. Hancock? Are there any questions at
this time for Mr. Hancock? Okay, is there anybody else wishing
to speak on this item? There being none, we'll close the public
hearing and go into discussion among the Board members.
Mr. Whipple, would you address...did you get a copy of
Mr. Hancock's memo?
Mr. Whipple: Yes, I did.
Mr. Manes: And has one copy been entered
into evidence on this? Thank you.
Mr. Whipple: I believe we understand
Mr. Hancock's request but we have two problems with that
consideration. We have no problem making sure that we're talking
about 30 ft. above grade of the land but in essence, the
suggestion is that it be above, let's say the grade of an
expressway, an elevated expressway. The problem with that is
number one, we have a regulation that does not allow billboards
to face the expressway within a certain distance 600 or 660 ft..
so there would really be no need in the -City of Miami by which to
use the expressway grade plus an additional 30 ft because the
signs are not allowed to begin with. Notwithstanding that, it's
been the policy of the City and what have you, in, the past, as
Mr. Hancock, Jr. and Sr. and I have discussed that we have not
allowed and do not allow signs to be laced toward the expressway,
Sty, therefore, the :wording would not be acceptable to us because
it infers that we're going to allow expressway signs and they
should k Q viewed and allowed to go to a height of 30 ft, above an
expressway by this change in warding.
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planning Advisory Beard
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cottacrly, any sign that Ne see as we go through the "ity of
Miami► if there's billboar6 that's closer than 660 o, or 60
ft., that's been grandfathered in since:?
,Mr, Whipple: Yes, sit. At the present tite,
notwithatanding the litigation, they are monconEorting ar,d they
are subject to the finali2atiOM of that litigation and yes, legal
no:toontoY:ning is the proper term.
Mr. Hancock! Mr. Chairmant if i night „take a
suggestion that...
Mr. Manes: Okay, let me just...is there no '
abjection from the Board, we have closed the public hear;-g;
` Mr. Armesto-Garcia: I have no objections, let's hear
it.
F Mr, Manes: Okay, proceed.
Mr. Hancock: If Mr. Whipple's only concern is
the expressway and signs are effectively banned from the
expressway then he should have no objection to making it a
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uniform height above the grade of road.
Mr. Manes: Any comment, Mr. Whipple, there?
Mr. Whipple: ,Wrong. We do have an objection.
The standard, notwithstanding Mr. Hancock's comment, 30 has
been quite acceptable for...since 1965 when the`City of Miami and
as we do keep pretty well up-to-date, this standard is still
acceptable as far as we know` and we believe ... and we believe that
a 30 ft. height on a billboard is more than enough height for
proper viewing unless you really want to do something
extraordinary and we don't believe that Miami, Florida and South
Florida is the place to do something like that.
Mr. Manes: Mr...
Mr. Luaces: I have a question for Mr. Whipple.
Mr. Manes: Okay, Mr. Luaces.
Mr. Luaces: What is the ... what is the Dade
county height limitation on billboards?
Mr. Whipple: Mr. Hancock may have to correct
me on this but I believe it's either 30 or 35 ft. There are
other municipalities that have allowed higher signs pursuant to a
change in Dade Counts legislation. The Dade County legislation
is basically the same as ours, they do not allow signs within 600
ft. or odd feet of the expressway and to the best of my know-
ledge, all ground signs are limited to either 30 or 35 (ft.) and
I'm not sure as to the exact number. -; „„-
know...
Mr. Luacesa
Mr. Whipple:
Mr. Luaces:
Mr. Whipple;
Mr. Hancock:
Mr. Manes;
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Thirty above grade or thirty...
Thirty above ground, sir.
Above ground not grade.
That's -right.
If I might add a little, you
Okay,
APril $r 1964, Item 13
Pl.zi mOg Adyis My B a A
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o f the si�4n Ord i.naMce i n the 20 rtutt icipal i t ies i;; Oada Counvy
plus bade Count7f 'there are quite a few ;tun id ipal itied that
,agrnd that the hdight is subposed to be aboVe gra�-ie and reallY
the ptbi tt is not whether it should or shouldit' = to but what lco s
the best and ;ty point is to YOU that if 70u have a tOdd that 4
or 3 ft. high above the Irade of the sign where you build the
sign down lower and then on down the road about another half a
mi. a or another 500 ft., the road cones up like this and you knave
an effect that it not, aesthetic,if what you're 100king for is to
strive for aesthetics, that certainly isn't the way to achieve
it.
Mr. Manes: I'm curious, where do you see the
roads going up and down?
Mr. Hancock: In a lot of cases 7ou have....e�'en
on South Dixie Highway, it will be 4 ft. higher than the ground
right next to it and what Mr. Whipple is referring to is where
you actually build the sign whichwill be ground level, might be
a different level from where the road is that the signs is going
to show to. Lt's just a logical solution to a problem that
hasn't really been dealt with and I think should �:e.
Mr. Manes:
stating your views here?
Mr. Whipple:
Mr. Manes:
Mr. Whipple, is he accurately
Not our views, no, sir.
Okay.
Mr. Whipple: We understand the difference of
grade, if there's a question on grade and if it is not an
approved site which might be subject to flood criteria filling
then they would use the crown of the road at grade, they would
not use the expressway grade naturally, but the term -grade at
ground level, you know, that's variable and let's, you know, if
we want to talk aesthetics for minute, the viewirc of a sign at a
30 ft. height and if you can imagine doubling that height to 60
ft. on South Dixie Highway, the 3 or 4 ft. grade is immaterial
with the 30 ft. and the 60 ft. is immaterial as to viewing
because signs on South Dixie Highway at a 60 ft. height are just
completely out of place because of the angle and the height.
There is just no real value to putting a sign"at a... in a norr..al
situation to that height.
Mr. Manes:
Mr. Luaces?
Did you have a cc.:..ment,
Mr. Luaces: Yes, it is to no value of the 2,
3 ft. difference. I don't see why we shouldn't then do as he
recommends to be above grade.
Mr. Whipple: But the wording as proposed would-= :
allow that consideration in relation to elevated expressways...
Mr. Luaces: No, I...
Mr. Whipple: ...the way it's worded now.
If,..
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Mr. Luaces; Legally he can not put a sign and
use the grade of the expressway because'it's not ailo�red in the
City of Miami right now so this will not effect the expressways
at all.
Mr, Whipple; Well, I would like to suggest
that... that is perhaps a good thought but with respect to what i�
trying to be gone in the City of Miami and elsewhere in made
County, that tz in fact not the case. Ij the 3 and 4 ft. would
be a problem which I don't consider it a problem whatsoever and
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wdrr!jirlg about the viewing path. They havo- to haoa ar clear Path
that it can be reviewed and the EaCt that it nay diffd►rentiate
bet•deen the actual road on grade, 3 or 4 Et. doesn't make that
muoh 6f a difLarence. The basic response is that that's needed
Ede an approach and DttbP_r viewing.
,Manes : Mr. Arfne s to -Ca rc i a .
Mr. Armesto-darcia! Yes, what I don't...t don't set
any conflict here in what Mt. Rancock's saying.. if he has no
right to taut a sign facing the expressway new and this is what he
wants, "the maxi3tum height above the ground for a co;--terc al
advertising sign shall riot exceed 30 ft. £rom the grade of the
road to which the sign faces." I don't see anything wrong why
the Department can not get along with this. I mean this is the
most common sense and common language instead of going through to
many languages and since this is clear...
Mr. Manest Well, not speaking for the
Department, I...
Mr. Armesto-Garcia: This is clear to me that...in
Dade County the maximum height is 35 *ft. in Dade County, in Dade
County's unincorporated, 35 ft. Here we are not exceeding 30 ft.
is okay from the grade of the road. I will move for that.
Mr. Manes: Okay, well, we're not quite in a
motion stage yet, but...
Mr. Luaces: We're not ready for that but
that's... I'll second.
Mr. Manes: What I wanted to say was, not
speaking for the Department, I think that there's other things to
be taken into consideration besides expressways, there's ramps
and overpasses and things like that that is what the Department's
concern...Mr. Rodriguez, did you have a comment?
Mr. Rodriguez: The only comment I would like to
add is that is conceivable that you could be beyond the distance
from the expressway, you know, more than the 600 and not facing.
the expressway but taking advantage of the height differential of
the road of the expressway. I guess you might be able to rase
the billboard much more than the 5 ft. What I think we're doing
is by doing what they're proposing, we're really opening it up
and we don't know exactly the implications of what they are
saying. Ours is a very clear standard, you apply, if it is only
4 or 5 ft., well if it's not a big deal in one area, it's not a
big deal the other side, you know. Four or five feet won't kill
them, right? if it doesn't...
Mr. Manes: Is there or do either you or
Mr. Whipple see any compromised language that would allow for, _ �-
you know, something where the road is possibly built up for, you -
know, 5 ft. or so? I remember that it was just last fall that we
increased the sign height limit from 20 ft. to 30 ft. and that
was after...isn't that correct, Mr. Whipple, there?
Mr. Whipple: Well, that had to do with the
residential districts and the ground signs with respect to the
residential district. We had proposed, yes, many months ago that
the maximum height be 30 ft. which was the same as it was under
6871 which has been no problem since 1965.
Mr. Manes; But, you know, do you see that
there is enough of an instance or enough instances where the road
varies from the, you know, from the grade where it,$ not an
expressway situation to change the language?
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Planning Advisor; loa d
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i't kc 1 i� h L N aJ Y 'j a Y V L L j L G �i� d L? 4look at
t eta4ota at aerials in the wit j` C9 .�la: l could S'e� th o
happen dowft in 5"outh bade, Hot'testead t our Oft Tamiami Trail, ou
iti the County areas there might bei a 3 or 4 ft. difmatehtial buy
I dot` t see 3M7 problem in the City of Matio whatsoever. I do
see a problo-M though with the language as proposed or as being
proposed by Mr. Hancock.
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Mr. Manes! Thank you, Mr. Whipple. Any more
cottttents or questions from the Hoard?
Mr. Luaces: Yes, I have a question. If we
increase the height limitation to 35 ft. and Leave it as it is
from the ground level, will that be. ..will that give you erioug;;
leverace to work it out?
Mr. Hancock: I don't think...I`think there's a
lot of cases in Miami evert though we're pretty level around here
that the idea would be not to say it's 1 ft. or 2 ft, or 5 ft. or
whatever, it's to say that it's uniform and if you want to get
something that's uniform that's simple, this is' -the way to go atd
you Might run into a case where it might be 6 ft, or 7 ft. or it
might be 3 ft. but that's really not the point. What the point
is you're making it a uniform ordinance that you all know it's
going to be 30 ft. above the grade and so there's no misunder-
standing, there's no question, that it's better for my business
because you can see the sign better if it's visible from a car
driving along the road. If you can't see it, it has absolutely
no value for me and you cut out a lot of property owners that
might derive income from leases,that we would pay because we
can't show the sign from the road and it's just something that
would be uniform. I'm not saying that... I'm not an angel. I'm
sitting up here telling you I would make more money, I would be
able to sell more signs if ybu could see "them from the road, in a
lot of cases you can't and this would solve that problem.
Mr. Manes: Ms. Kolski.
Ms. Kolski: Mr. Chairman. Mr. Whipple, when
did you first get knowledge of Mr. Hancock's proposed wording?
Mr. Whipple:
A few moments ago.
Ms. Kolski: Okay, I understand what you're
saying, Mr. Hancock, but I'm afraid to adopt this wording without
a study of the impact of this wording. I would mike to know some
of the implications that would be involved.
Mr. Hancock: I want you to know I agree
totally. I think we. should study it and I think there's a lot of
other areas that should be studied but this just came to my
attention recently.
Ms. Kolski: What I'm saying...What I'm saying
is if the Department takes your wording and somehow tries to wo-.4
with it so that we can achieve some of what you want and yet
protect the things that we are trying to protect...
Mr. Hancock; Certainly.
Ms. Kolski: ...then maybe we can come up wit::
a compromised wording. I don't know how anybody else feels abot;.
it but I'd be for deferring this is or continuing or whatever yQu
have to do.
Mr. Luaces;
we should do that.
I agree with you, Pat. I believe
Mr. Manes; Okay, well we are in discussion.
Mr. Whipple, you have a comment there;
Mr. Whipple;
Ms. Koi.sk?
Dial' you want a response,
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April* 4, 19044 Itim, l3
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Mr, think Mr. Randock'; rttpo`1se tb
the last question regatding It Et, really quite clear Iy spells
out their de5ie4, Their desire is now to Have to do w W ! a
variation in graded their Jesite is to have a sign 60 £t. in
height, t think this is really just a subterfuge. If you want
to deter, fine, but our analysis isn't going to be any different
th,ln what I put before you this evening and that we feel it's a
put'e attempt by which to relate advertising signs to expressways.
We believe this is wrong. The law does not permit it now. We
would not teCOMMend permitting it in the future to we see no deed
to really give them the leverage by which to say, OWell, hey, you
know, we changed this wording and now we : re talking above.. , 3n
ft. above the expressway."
Mr. Manes: Mr...I have something I just
thought of, sitting here smiling. If we were to, you know, put
some sort of limitation on the distance from the road which the
sign face would be applicable... let's say that if you, you know,
from the grade of the road to which the sign faces, it appears
that the Department's apprehension is that they're going to face
it towards the expressway at 661 ft. and put it at any height but
if the sign and the road facing each other must be, let's say
within 650 ft. or something.
Mr. Whipple: You're dealing in areas which we
believe are, may come up and be addressed in the future either
pursuant to the City Commission's first reading offering that
really shouldn't completely enter in and govern this control
tonight. The control tonight is a very basic control one only of
height. This height has been in effect since 1965 until 9500 was
adopted. We would see no problem other than ... in fact, one of
the problems we have is that: there is a question right now as to
what height the signs are permitted and we feel it's necessary
that the legislation continue on and that these other problems be
addressed in the proper form and through the proper studies. We
just have a serious problem with the delay and we see a real need
due to that lack of 9500 to get legislation moving.
Mr. Manes:
Mr. Mackey.
Mr. Mackey: Bill Mackey, Public Works
Department. I'm the highway Engineer for the City of Miami and I
was just trying to go through in my mind what streets may be
higher, say 5 ft. higher than the abutting property. I can't
think of any but I'm sure that there may be a few isolated
incidences but I don't think that that's a major problem.
Mr. Manes: Thank you, Mr. Mackey., I
couldn't visualize any more than one corner that that was much
higher, myself, there. Board members, what.is your pleasure
there?
Mr. Luaces: I feel that...
Mr. Manes:: You can sit down, Mr. Hancock,
Mr. Luaces; ...I go along with Pat and with
both in mind, I'm not thinking that the private sector or the
businessman is using subterfuge. He's trying to make a living :•
and I feel that we should go and try to find out the solution for
it, He's open to do it and he's not saying that we're out to
Kill him. He's saying let's find a solution and a compromise and
I think we could work that out or we should continue the item,
Mr. Manes;
to say also..,
mr.
Mr. Manus:
Any other; comments?
I would li%e
MRfR
...Did you want to speak?
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that, you :now, here �e' ra tr7Lng tee "t; redr a mis toke OE
softAtthing that was. , .that' � hot clear its the drdinande and
delaving it there- may be some apPlidants tf7i.ng to get some
permits at this point that the puepose of the language' at this
point: �_ tent df the ordinance et;om
the beg inn ing and the iw&i. a itcwas originally drafted. By delaying .. .
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not approving the proposal as we are proposing, we are leaviwg a
si. ;uation that should be cleared up iMmediately, unclear. ai re
all f or clat: frying the future. I. -think we dan do that between
the time we do now dnd we go to the Commission for first reading
if you give us sotte instructions in Looking to different
possibilities but 1...if you make a dea:�4i.on tonight of tfying to
approve this limitation, I think it's important that we get it
through.
Mr. Manes: 'Thank you. Mr. Maxwell.
Mr, Maxwell: Mr. Chairman, members of the
Board, it's not normally the Law Department's position to, or
place to inform you of what ramifications of your actions might
be. I have in this particular situation, I must inform you that
there exists a serious loophole in 9500.to which this particular
amendment is addressed and to delay it any further subjects the
City to...well, because there is litigation, I will say it could
work to the City's detriment to defer this item for any prolonged
period of time, even to maybe next month because of the
applications that come in on a continuous basis. Therefore, I
would recommend that this Board take some action one way or the
other at: this particular point because we're only talking about,
the Hancock amendment that is, could be addressed at the City
Commission level and does not amount to what could be considered
a substantial deviation froT what this Board is considering at
this point. There rights would not be substantially harped by
your acting at this particular time. They would have an
opportunity at the City Commission to propose the same language
and the City Commission if they desire to, could accept it at
that particular time but there is...I think time is of the
essence on this particular amendment before you.
Mr. Manes: We thank you very much,
Mr. Maxwell. Does everybody understand what the situation is
here?
Ms. Kolski: Yeah, yeah.
Mr. Hancock:
I might...
Mr. Manes: I'm sorry, the public hearing is
closed there ... there will be no more comments from the public.
You know, the Board is not traditionally in the policy of going
against the recommendations of Planning Department. It's seldom
that the Law Department makes a recommendation of this type here.
Mr. Maxwell is -accurate, whatever action we take tonight...still _..,,,._.-
this matter would be coming up to the City Commission probably
what? before the end of this month, Mr. Maxwell?
Mr. Maxwell: That would depend on the Planning
Department but I would assume they're moving it quickly.
Mr. Manes; Probably by the end of this ,
month,
Mr. Maxwell: What I would aisor for the
record, like to also say so Mr. Kancock could understand it-, I'.m
not proposing that you vote one way or the other,
Mr. Manes; Fight, you just...
Mr. MaNW411; I'm just saying that you should.
:say that you should vote. I'm not saying how you should vote...
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April4r 1964, Item 13
Planning AdviSO-V ` DezaTd
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Mr, Maxwell t .. , you tiqh t -,rote for
Mr. Hancockp Abu might -rate for tite Planhina laparttent, 'that's
tyot oUr eer trtfet5datiotl. I'm s ,tpil saying we Would pr _0_2
that,.,we would suggest that you do lottothi;;t at this ti ;e,
Mr. Manes: Can we...can •fie get ...Ms. Spohn,
Mg. Spohn! 'Yeah, t' d like to know when we' oe
voting on this, the wording on here says, " ` A tt�aximum he Clt
above the ground for cothmercial at 30 ft.0 what is the pj ar�nittc
�oat:d's redtSriSttendati.oti?
Mr. Manes:
recommendation.
Ms. Spohn:
Mr. Manes:
Ms. Spohn:
Mr. Maness
following page there under #5.
Mr. Luaces:
Mr. Manes:'
Mr. Luaces.
Mr. Mackey.
Mr. Manes:
That is the ?fanning De'part:`lent's
Oh, that is.
That is.
Oh, okay.
That's the underlined text on the
Mr. Chairman --
Mr. Luaces.
I would like to ask a question of
Mr. Mackey.
Mr. Luaces:' You referred that in the City of
Miami you can not find several places that are above ground more '
than 4 or 5 ft. Do you find in your- mind a lot of places in
which the sign company could place a billboard and face
expressway and be farther away than 600 ft.?
Mr. Mackey: I'm not sure that I can answer
that question.
Mr. Luaces: Well, then the other question I
can ask either because it's...that's the pro''_em, we're thinking,
we're opposing this idea that he has to equal the height
limitation to ground level because we are afraid that something
may develop from it but then again nobody knc+s what could
happen.
Ms. Kolski: Mr. Chairman?
Mr. Am, esto-Garcia: Let's handle what he develops.
Ms. Kolski:` Mr. Chairman?
Mr. Manes: Ms. Kolski.
Ms. Kolski: I can understand what you said
but by the same token, number one, we have a Iiery serious
loophole, and dumber two, we can't approve it Intil it's been
studied so what I think is what we ought to do is fill the lega,
loophole that we currently have and then perhaps study it.
Mr. Manes: Yes, the, you ;.row, the Hancock
amendment, as we'll call it here, is subject :o further...futur..
review, is it not? .You know, even after the ",cmmi�sion level
action, whatever action they may take without teing...because
this particular item haon t been presented before us by the
eoart: en , is that correct?
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the C�At-;ttission for first teadiitg.
Me,Manes! ad to the CV�tission but ladp
let's Say the Co;futissidn decided no to AVI to it, it cbuld
cond,ailibl`r` dome back to us at a l,ate2r ti 1e tt be addrts.sed, -io%;
j khow, for what it is. Is that accurate?
„r Mir, Rodriguett No, ftot...
Mr. Manes! No...
Mr. Etodrigue z ...unless the ommission re!ers
back to the Planning Advisory Board, this will be part of th,a
record and the Hancock Company can go before the Commission to
present their case and it will be, as in tha case, they will be
notified as we have been notifying through t:.e news ;media, you
know, that the item is on the agenda and they will be able to
present their case before the Commission.
Mt. Manes: Okay. Mr. Imaxwell.
Mr. Maxwell: It would on-',., come back to this
Board if the Commission made so many changes in it that it Would
be considered a whole new ordinance. In that case, it :ai_ht co:;e
back to you but just the Hancock amendment, if you will, it Would
not be necessary for it to come back to this Board. You would
not see it again unless the Commission...
Mr. Manes:
'Directed it.
SKr. Maxwell: ...directed it back because of
the 90 day rule or something like that.
Mr. Manes: Thank you. Mr. Armesto-Garda.
Mr. Armesto-Garcia: Yes, I see that this is a stor:a
in a glass of water because the only difference I see here is the
Hancock amendment said, "The maximum height above the ground for
the commercial advertising sign shall not exceed 30 ft. from the
grace of the road to which the sign faces." What the Department
is the same thing, they say, "Thirty feet," but they don't say
fron. the grade, they say, "above grade". It's only one word
different.
- Mr. Manes: Well, no, that's not the zone of
contention that is that which way the sign =aces. If tha s'_:n is
facing the expressway then a different grade would apply. The
f grade is not the problem it's which grade are you using to way
the...
Mr. Armesto-Garcia: We are pulling the horses before
the cart. That is something to be developed in the future and we
can. handle that or other people will handle that in the future
with what develops. We have not here a crys:al ball to see what
is going to happen tomorrow or two years fr--:1 now. We are :ere
tonight on April the 4th with a problem and :he problem is only
one word "grade" or 'from". That is the way I see it and I thin:c
that Mr. Hancock, also, can go to the Supre, Court but we don't
have to penalize a taxpayer with those expenses. I think that
here tonight we have the opportunity to fill the loophole an
correct the mistake that has been done with adopting this or
including this in the proposal of the Department. I don't
see... is nothing wrong why the Department can not accept a
friendly amendment from the taxpayer, something that they ;ma e a
mistake and let's recognize it. Not everybc, y because wo-"As =or
the City has, has the wisdom of deciding wh : i5 right and what
is wrong, In the same way, here, we are faced with a prpo"Icm-
let's solve the problem and take the bull by the horns not defrR
it to any future meeting. Let's do it toni-3t. The only
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t+l . ,`banes: No, that, .okay► �s� �tl18k1.
Ms. Kolski: Yes, Ott, Chairman, mft is
this. We have an otdinanoe, We used to have 6871 that cofitai-aa
these provisions and it's worked for us since 1065, We knad now
it works and we know all of the implications involved, We ha'je
bra rAd new wording that Mr, Rancodk handed us tonight and Wta_>be
there's merit in it but I don't know enough about it. f want to
know a lot more but by the same torten, I still want to go ahead
and at least put our old provisions in in order. to get the
protection that we need right now and then perhaps study t.s
matter and dome up with something else to change it a little bit
and still protect the expressway deal.
Mr, Manes: Ms. Spohn, did you want to
comment? Okay:. I have one more comment and then I think I'm
going to ask for a_motion. My feelings are this. As the Law
benartment's advised us, we have a serious loophole that needs to
be filled. The Planning Department and Mr. Whipple in particular
as this is his department in the Planning Department, feels vertj
strongly about the wording of the proposed ordinance and the
wording that the Planning Department has proposed by... the
Planning Department's proposal and the Hancock, as we're ca_lin=
it, the Hancock amendment. I feel that...and, you know, the
potential loopholes that we're opening up here with adopti.n , you
know, without further study the Hancock amendment is opening up
possibly a very large door. This item is going to be before the
City Commission in the very near future and if the City
Commission feels that this amendment merits to be the further
consideration or action they.will either.take it or send it back
to us and I think that's a Commission level decision.
Mr. Luaces: Mr. Chairman, I feel .the
Commission level decision... they appoint us because we have a
say. I...my feeling is that I will recommend what I feel is good
for business, which is above grade. I will recommend it and if
they feel and they find the loopholes, let them find the
loopholes and send it back to us then.
Mr. Manes: Okay, fine.
Mr. Luaces: It works both wav_ s so at this
point I would recommend to pass this...
Mr. Manes: You're making a motion to...
Mr. Luaces: Yes.
Mr. Manes: ...adopt amendment number or item
13...
Mr. Luaces: Number 13.
Mr. Manes: ...and incorporate...
Mr. Luaces: Incorporating from the grade off
the read to which the sign faces,
Mr. Manes; Okay, the wording from the
Hancock. amendment there.
Mr. Correa: I'll second it.
Mr. Manes: Seconded, Is there any fum e:
discussion on the amendment?
Ms. Ko15)�i; Yes, Mr. bhAirman.
Mr. Manes; Me. Kolski*
1l April 4# 1934, Item, 1*3
Planaincj Advigovi 0*7&`rd
i-
MA - Kd 1- in 1 . I wduld )Ml y ask ,1y Jallo+,j 26a4A
putting so�nut�tinz� i
to tet. to release oonsidee that we may be n
here And 96teone .may be able to dote along and put in 56f1e rat-:e'r
Uhtict,tll things. We don't know all the implicatiohs, lt's
rathgt 3angerous to vote on an amendment unless it't been full;
s tud %ed .
Mr. Manes: Okay, is there any further
d i.�cuss c�fi?
Mr. Ameeto-0arcia! to the same way, I would like to
reco,tr=end to vote for Mr. Luaces and second by Mr. Correa, I will
vote for that because if something happens tomorrow, let's worry
about that tomorrow. The people who will handle that in the next
meeting, they will worry about that. Why we have to go back
again to pull the horses before the cart.
Mr. Manes: Okay.
Ms. Kolskit Mr. Chairman, probably a lot of
things that we're unhappy with in the City .today is because
somebody said let them worry about it tomorrow. I think we're
here today to make the plans so,that tomorrow is more enjoyable
in this City.
Mr. Luaces: Mr. Chairman. What I'm referring
to, Pat, is that if the City Commission knows the Planning Hoard
knows and will find those loopholes or those errors, they have
time to present it to the City Commission before they approve or
act on it.
Ms. Kolski: Well, I understand that but the
City Commission can recommen$ a study and` they probably would
recommend+a study after seeing Mr.•Hancock's amendment. I'm not
saying that I'm totally opposed to that. I'm saying let's not
take a chance and do it tonight. Let's wait until a'study has
been completed. Let's fill the loophole tonight.
Mr. Armesto-Garcia: We are filling the loophole in
this way with their part and his part. We're putting both parts
together and filling the loophole then the City Commission will
tare the whole thing as a whole or divideit. That's their
problem but we are filling the loophole. We have...I will sleep'
very well tonight with my conscience because I am pulling
together two people and sending the two thinking together to the
next meeting, to the above us hierarchy, and they will decide if
we were wrong or we were right.. We can not decide if we are
right or we are wrong. They will do it.
Ms. Kolski: Mr. Chairman. We're filling the,
loophole by putting them both together. What I am suggesting is
that we fill the loophole with the old wording. The City
Commission is going to have in all of it's information,
Mr. Hancock's suggested wording. I'm saying it's potentially
harmful to combine the wording if Mr. Mackey couldn't even tell
us what places in the City a sign could be put up. This thing
needs to be studied. _You just...you just don't combine wording
like that. You study it.
Mr. Armesto-Garcia; That is the problem, Mr. Chairman,
that after so many years..,after so many years with the City they
can not tell us what even Ms. Kolski wants to know. Now, if in
so many years they can not, how do you think,
Ms. Kolski, they're going to know in two or three days?
Ms. Kolski; Did you honestly expect a man to
stand there and tell you where all these signs could be putt just
like that at the drop of a hat'
Mr. Manes;
Mr. Luaces,
l�
April 9, 1984 r ltsq l3
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1
•lt'. Uao s: ` ha` i i '! ` rb. l att R4 .4a0A a xe
wd '``gat doluld not e4mdrf,ber a glade in Aiami •Oqt .
��. doe i%
couid be aide over grade and if he can do that, he (taft femetber
the 3.t t8tway bedauae if' t thin)*. a little bit, nayb4 t will be
Able td kMOW which eXb_ td9sways are in MiaMi.
Ms. iulski! Sir...
Mr. Luacet!
Ms. Kolski!
Mr. Armesto-dare a!
I think he was...
;i .
...he works with roads.
Call the question.
Mr. Manes! We have a motion to call the
question by Mr. Armesto-Garcia. Is there a second?
Mr. Correa: No, no...
Mr. Luaces: Call the question.
Mr. Manes: bkay, we have a second. There's
no discussion? please call the, roll on calling the question.
Mr. Rodriguez: The motion is for approval of
item 13 as...
Mr. Manes:
Mr. Armesto-Garcia: -No, call the question.
Mr. Manes: Just to call the question. Yes
or no, do we end debate.
Mr. Rodriguez:
that I have the right motion.
Ms. Spohn:
Mr. Manes:
ending debate first.
Mr. Rodriguez:
Oh! No, I wanted to make sure
Yeah.
Okay, but we're just...we're
Okay, I'm sorry.
(Secretary called roll on calling the question.)
AYES: Messrs. Man -as, Luaces, Correa and
Armesto-Garcia
NAYES: Ms. Kolski and Spohn
ABSENT: Messrs. Benjamin and Diego
Mr. Manes: We have 5, 7. We need two-
thirds.
Mr. Rodriguez: No, we have 4 to 2.
Mr. Manes: Four to two?
Mr. Rodriguez: MmHm.
Mr. Manes: 'then we -have two-thirds. Okay,
debate is over, please...okay, I'll state ,the motion and the
second and then we'll call the roll. The motion is for approvi^g
item 413 as presented and incorporating the, more or less, the
last line of the Hancock amendment here, as we're callin5 it,,
incorporating the wordage "grade of the road to whi:.h the sign
faces" and the motion was made by Mr. Luaces, seconded by
Mr. Correa and please call the roll,
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and Spohn
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Senjai in and bego
. Mr. Mdrigue2:
The Motion fails 3
to 3.
Mr. Manes!
NOW, Ms. Kolakl, what's
In order
here is, since you are the
proponent on the other
end, an
alternative amendment or an
alternative ,%otion..
Mr. Armesto-Garcia: I will propose one
if she has,..
W Mr. Manes:
No, Ms...okay, Ms.
Kolski:
Ms. Kolski:
Mr. Chairman...
Mr. Manes: -Item 13.
Ms. Kolski: Mr. Chairman, I moue approval of
item 13 as presented by the planning Department.
Mr. Manes: Is there a second?
Ms. Spohn: I'll second it.
Mr. Manes: Thank you. Is there any
discussion on the motion? Motion is to approve item 13 as
-*� presented. There being no discussion, please call the roll.
(Secretary called roll on the motion.)
AYES: Ms. Kolski and Spohn
Messrs. Manes
NAYES: Messrs. Luaces, Correa and Armesto-Garcia
ABSENT: Messrs. Benjamin and Diego
Mr. Rodriguez: The motion fails 3 to 3.
Mr. Manes: Thank you. This item will now go
on to the City Commission deemed as being denied in its orginal
fora and we wish you a lot of luck there, Mr. Hancock. Thank you
for coming.
Okay, we're back to our initial or our original agenda
and we're up to agenda item number 3, I believe.
14
April 4, 1484, Item 13
0
MIAMI REVIEW
AND DAILY RECORD
Published Daily except Saturday. Sunday and
Legal Holidays
Miami, Dade County, Florida.
STATE OF FLORIDA
COUNTY OF DADE:
Before the undersigned authority personally appeared
Sookle Nfilliams, who on oath says that she is the Vice President
of Legal Advertising of the Miami Review and Daily Record, a
daily (except Saturday, Sunday and Legal Holidays) published at Miami en Dade County, Florida: that the newspaper,
ached
copy of advertisement, being a Legal Advertisement of Notice
In the matter of
CITY OF MIAMI
Re: ORDINANCE N0.9993
In the .........X..X..X.......................... Court,
was published in said newspaper In the issues of
May 31, 1985
Alliant further says that the said Miami Review and Daily
Record Is a newspaper published at Miami in said Dade County.
Florida, and that
in said Dade County Florida. each day
(excer has heretofore been
contipt
Saty, p
(except Saturday, Sunday and Legal Holidays) and has been
entered as second class mail matter at the post office in
Miami in said Dade County, Florida, for a period of one year
next preceding the first publication of the attached copy of
advertis nt: and affiant further says that she has neither
paid n p mised any person, firm or corporation of secany uring discount ,
rebate c mission or refund for the purpose
adve s ant for p blication In the aid no
$►Lom to rid subsari ad ti•,piore me this
31st of, 14 a85
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9 Q`
MyCommission exp`&e
WITH CITY COMMISSION APPROVAL, F.OR dMAIN.OUT
bOOR AbVERt0HG'SIGNS; CONTAINING A ht0tALER
PROVISIbN ANb A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE,, ; -
ORDINANCE NO.999a
AN EMERGENCY ORDINAN
CE AMENDING SECTION,53.161(3);; � •
OF THE CODE OF 'THE CITY'OF MIAMI; FLOR1bA, AS
.OF `
AMENDED, WHICH CREATED A SCHEbULEFEES,FOR
THE USE OF THE CONVENTION CENTER PARKING GARAGE
(MUNICIPAL GARAGE NO, d)_ BY CHANGING :THI: ,RATE
SCHEDULE FOR THE USE AND OCCUPANCY OF. AND THE,
,
SERVICES FURNISHED OR TO BE FURNISHED IN CONNEC
TION WITH THE
CONTAINING A RMIAMI ENTER AND PARKING GARAGE,,
R PROVISION ANb A SEVERABIL•
ITY CLAUSE.
ORDINANCE NO.9995
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE TEXT OF ORDINANCE
NO.9500, THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MIAMI,
FLORIDA, BY AMENDING SUBSECTION 2031.2 OF SECTION
2031 ENTITLED "DRIVE-IN'ESTABLISHMENTS; CAR WASHES," .
TO FtFni 111:71: e'%SDGCIAI 9:V1`.rVTInKl WITu. ADDQnW: 7kiV.',
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PROVIDE THE MINIMUM NUMI
DISTRICTS 04 AND (
WITH APPROVAL BY
IN FACIUTIES'THAT
BER OF'RESERVOII
PROVISION AND Al
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AN ORDINANCE AM
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SPACES; CONTA
:VERABILITY CIJ
DINANCE NO 99
NDING'THE ZON'
ElONING ORDIt
BY CHANGING T
.1-95 EXPRESSWAY, METRORAIL
17TH ROAD; SOUTHWEST 2Nt
TO.AND'APPROXIMATELY 2101
WEST 17TH ROAD AND SOU'
PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED
FAMILY DETACHED RESIDENT
`OFFICE;'. MAKING' FINDINGS;
=1 NEGESSARY CHANGES,ON..R
ATLAS MADE A, PART OF OR
ERENCE,AND _DESCRIPTION;
THEREOF; CONTAINING A RI
SEVERABILITY �IAUSE ,.' ?
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'*'ro..;, mho.. .. ,...,
npcord is a newsoalinr ;n-blr5hi'd at Miami in said OAde County,
Florida, ands +hat the �,iid newspaper has hbtttl6latb beeh
continuously published in said Dade County, Klbridb. ea6h day
(except Saturday, Sunday and Leqal Hblideyfl and hA§ been
entered as second class mail ri'lattbt At the post affide In
Miami in said bade County. Florida. for A p6riod of one yak
nexi oreCAdihq the lir§l publl6Atl6n of thil aHadhNtl 600v of
advetii§ nt; end attiant fuHhet Say! that shb has neither
paid h p thised any petson. lift of cofpdmilon any dik6unt.
tebAlb c this§tan or ralurid tot the purpose of secutim§ this
AdOtl § ent tot p blibation in the Aid tietNspapet.
`,```rttlti lit tt(// i
�146tn to and sublidr&d Iiefote me this
31st dlvot_ .C�f�S9 AD.ig:......85
of , toti s
-Ub publ)c, StajN 1' Florida at Latga
(SEAL) 'y�'`FO�� ... • `r�` \ '
My Commission exp((4,
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PA
ATLAS MADE A PART OF 6RbINAN66136A_M* b
ERENCE AND bESCRIPTION IN ARTICLE 31 Std+ION 3
THEREOF; CONTAINING A `REPEALER PROV MON AND.A
SEVERASILITY CLAUSE.
ORDINANCE NO.00,
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE ZONING ATLAS OF Ohm,
NANCE NO.'9500, THE ZONING ORbINANCE OF THE CITY
OF MIAMI, FLORIDA, BY CHANGING THE ZONING CLASSit,,
FICATION OF APPROXIMATELY `IW0 9OU1'HWt8t.2Nb AVE-
NUE, MIAMI, FLORIDA, (MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED
HEREIN) FROM RS,2/2 ONE -FAMILY. DETACHED RESIbEN-
TIAL.TO,R0.3/S RESIDENTIAL -OFFICE, MAKING FINDINGS;
AND BY MAKING ALLTHE NEOESSARY CHANGES ON PAGE . .
NO. 37 OF SAID ZONING ATLAS MADE A PART OF ORDi-
NANCE N0. 0600, BY REFERENCE AND DESCRIPTION IN
ARTICLE' 3; SECTION 306, THEREOF; CONTAININGA
REPEALER: PROVISION AND A SEVERASILITY CLAUSE.
ORDINANCE NO.991313
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE ZONING ATLAS OF ORbI•
NANCE NO. 9500, THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY
OF MIAMI, FLORIDA, BY CHANGING THE ZONING CLAM.
FICATION FOR THE AREA GENERALLY BOUNDED 13Y
SOUTHWEST 2ND COURT, SOUTHWEST 15TH ROAD, SOUTH-
WEST 1ST_AVENUE AND A LINE PARALLEL TO AND APPROX
IMATELY 115.150 FEETSoUTHWESTOF. SOUTHWEST ISTH
ROAD (MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED HEREIN); FROM
FIG 2/5 GENERAL RESIDENTIAL TO RO-3/5 RESIDENTIAL
OFFICE; MAKING FINDINGS; AND BY MAKING 'ALL THE
NECESSARY CHANGES ON PAGE NO.37 OF SAID'ZONING
ATLAS MADE A PART OF ORDINANCE NO 9500, BY;REF-
ERENCE AND DESCRIPTION IN ARTICLE 3; SECTION 300,
THEREOF; CONTAINING A REPEALER PROVISION AND A
SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.
ORDINANCE NO.9999
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE ZONING ATLAS OF ORDI-
NANCE NO. 9500, THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY
OF MIAMI, FLORIDA, BY CHANGING THE ZONING CLASSI-
FICATION FOR THE AREA GENERALLY BOUNDED BY
SOUTHWEST 2ND AVENUE, SOUTHWEST. 17TH ROAD,
SOUTHWEST 1ST AVENUE AND A LINE PARALLEL TO AND
APPROXIMATELY 390 FEET NORTHEAST OF SOUTHWEST'
17TH_ ROAD, MIAMI,- FLORIDA I(MORE .PARTICULARLY
DESCRIBED HEREIN) FROM RG-2/5 GENERAL RESIDENTIAL
TO RO-1/5 RESIDENTIAL` OFFICE MAKING FINDINGS; AND
BY: MAKING'ALL THE;:NECESSARY,_CHANGES: ONPAGE''
NO.:37 OF SAID.ZONING',ATLAS MADE A`,PART,OF:ORDI
NANCE NO.` 9500; BY: REFERENCE,AND :DESCRIPTION IN
ARTICLE';% SECTION 300,� THEREOF; ICONTAIN [NO A
REPEALER PROVISION AND A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE
a9 r
R ORDINANCE NO: 10000
le
AN"ORDINANCE AMENDING JHE=TEXTOF.ORDINANCE
N0. 9500, THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF -THE CITY OF,, MIAMI;
FLORIDA `BY`AMENDING;"SUBSECTIONS 2102.2A.1,0AND
2102.2.1.2.OFSECTION 2102 ENTITLED "NONCONFORMING
LOTS," ,TO PROVIDE THAT. NONCONFORMING LOTS UTI-
LIZING'THE`"EIGHTY PERCENT";,EXCEPTION AND'RULE'
FOR LOT DIVISION MUST'MAINTAIN''THE'SAME COMMON
FRONTAGE AND ORIENTATION AS THE, PREVIOUS'LOTS'
CONTAINING'A`REPEALER PROVISION AND':A SEVERABIL-
ITY CLAUSEo
ORDINANCE NO.10001
AN EMERGENCY ORDINANCE ESTABLISHING. TWO -,NEW;
SPECIAL REVENUE FUNDS ENTITLED, "RENTAL-REHABIL
ITATION PROGRAM'— 1984" AND,;"RENTAL REHABILITA='
TION PROGRAM 1985'', APPROPRIATING':FUNDWFOR
THE OPERATION OF SAME;IN THE AMOUNTS OF 096,800 "
AND $690,000 RESPECTIVELY, CONSISTING'OF;FEDERAL
GRANT FUNDS FROMTHE _UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT,
OF HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT-ANP AIIT,HOR•
(ZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ACCEPT THE GRANT-AWI RD
FROM THE UNITED STATES P€PARTMENT`OF• HOUSING
AND UR13AN DEVELOPMENT, AND 10 ENT€R .INTO "TH€
NECESSARY CONTRACTS) AND/OR, AGRE€M€N.T(S)'.FOR '
THE ACCEPTANCE OF THE GRANTS;,'CO.MTAININi3 A
REPEALER PROVISION AND A SEVERA0ILITY Q AUSE.
RALPH G ONGIE
CITY CLERK
CITY OF MIAMI, FWRI
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5/31
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PROPOSAL
E. A. Hancocki
3856 bOUoLAS 4OAC r COCONUT G IM. FLONI[M 33133 • tFLtPHONL9 (305)Ad5•22Og130-0565
TABU OF CONIVrS
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1) Letter from Metro P.B.A.
2) Article on State Signage.
3) Map Of Interstate 195.
4) Private Enterprise Using Billboards:
a) Nobody Covers South Florida Better - Channel 7
b) WSVN - Channel 7 on I - 95 now
c) Neighbors - Miami Herald
d) only 25 Cents - Miami Herald
e) Athletic Club - Southeast Bank Blvd Sign
I
Nelson'Perry. ketfdoht
12oo N00hWOM 78 Ave.
Sulte 217
1V la tti, K10Hda 33128
305/593-0044
To WHOM IT MAY CONCM
We support the use of billboard advertising;
to promote increased awareness, particularly
of the law enforcement community.
We support the Metro -Dade Police Department
and the "Wear the Silver Badge" Campaign, and
we supported the Florida Highway Patrol
campaign on highway safety.
The Dade County PBA spent some $18,000 for
billboards (copies attached).
We felt that billboard advertising reached
the most number of people, and by the calls
we have received, feel our campaigns were
a great success.
Very truly yours,
Nelson Perry
President
NP:1dw
Enclosures
Florida News
Driver prays for, victim, himself
CIE WAER �(oAP) — Jo"
w►lkd thseph Linke grave of the I1•year•old boy and began
his court -ordered Paster evening
visit With a silent prayer.
He said the prayer Was partly
for the boy, victim of a hit=and�ritn
driver, and partly for' himself, He
was the driver.
,Tm sorry it ever _happened. I
think of It every day — the Idea
that I took a boy 'a life," said Link,
32, Who Went to the cemetery
from a gall cell, where Is serving,
90 days on weekends, from 8 a.m.
Saturday to 6 p.m. Sunday.
April I was the first anniversary
of the death of Edward "Tony"
5ylantrki,
Link was ordered by a judge last
month to visit the child's grave for
atx anniversaries as part , of his
sentence for vehicular homicide
andleaving the scene of in
accident. He also was sentenced to
one year house arrest, followed by
five years probation. He lost his
times, but In a year will be able
to get a permit to drive to work.
On his way to a party last year,
Link struck and killed the young=
ster, who was pushing his bicycle
up a bill. Link said he thought he
AROUND THE STATE
Greetings to get more colorful
From Herald Wire Services
TALLAHASSEE — A new "Welcome to Florida" sign —
featuring blue skies, sunshine and palm trees — is replacing the
staid green and white state line markers, the Commerce
Department announced Monday.
The first sign — 13 by 8 !I
feet — was put up near the
state welcome center on In-
terstate 75. At least 17 more
are planned on interstate
highways and other major
roads leading into the state,
but it will take several months
since each sign, has to, be
Individually made. The next
signs will go up at welcome centers on I.95 near Jacksonville
and I-10 near Pensacola.
Instead of the white block letters on a standard -issue green
Interstate highway sign saying "Florida State Line" or "Now
Entering Florida," the new signs have a blue background and
the message "Welcome to Florida" above three green palm
trees and the slogan, "The Sunshine State."
The Ietter,O-in "Florida" Is,a yellow sun, with the states
silhouette imposed across it.
3rd collegian killed in fall
DAYTONA BEACH April Trumble of Joliet, Ill.; became
the third collegian to die' in a fall from a hotel balcony during
spring break, according to police.
Trumble, 20, fell 10 floors early Sunday as she tried to
climb between balconies at the Plaza Hotel, police Sgt. Walter
Carr said Monday. "Her friends Indicated she had been partying
E that night,"
Comatose mother, 17, dies
AUBURNDALE — Taml Dawn Hicks, 17, who gave birth
to a healthy daughter last summer while comatose, died Sunday
at her parents home without regaining consciousness.
hit it road sign and continued to
the party, lie turned himself in
three days later after learning he
wag being sought.
Speaking haltingly, Link said;
"I'1 probably come out here
ISylvan Abbey Memorial Parkll
even after it's all over With ... t
think it's an obligation , , , it's
been building up, the anxiety,
pressure. This is sort of a release.
He stood for a few silent
mothents before a marker that
read: "Edward A. 'Tony' Sylanski.
Nov. 13, 1972 --- Apr. 7, 1984. So
Dearly Loved."
Cruise ship
Key 'West stop
runs overtime
By CHRIS VAUGHAN,
Herald Staff Writer
KEY WEST — The Mallory
Square sunset celebration took
place in the shadows Monday
when the Bermuda Star, a cruise
ship on its last stop of the season
In Key West, ran aground due to
an unusually low tide.
"All I can say is, she's on the
bottom," said Richard Steadman,
Key West agent for the Bahama
Cruise Line. "When nature says
stop, you stop."
The wait began for high tide
early today — and for nature to
undo what she had done.
'The ship's 261A-foot draft ordi-
narily clears the bottom by three
or four feet, Steadman said.
Not that Steadman didn't try to
get the black -hulled behemoth out
of the way. A pair of tug boats
.tried to free the ship late Monday,
but it remained stuck In the muck
off the famous pier where jugglers
flip flaming torches and refugees
peddle handmade merchandise ev-
ery evening at dusk,
"Actually, It's kept people here
longer," said Mira Negron, who
sells Austrian cinnamon twists.
"They don't know the sun has
already set."
Indeed, the Cancun -bound ship
blotted out the view that for
decades has attracted visitors from
around the' world — just as the
Mallory Square sunset celebrants
had feared It would do on a
Or V11
sob,
Tlri -
ro�
Bermuda.
Faris ....-
For full}
call Delta in N
448-1433), in
Dream Vacati
fares and Dre
out notice.
Dream Vacation rate
reservations are regt
can vary and maybe
takes, rental deposit
All air fares shown ar
Wed.; other days slip
least 30 days ahead
your reservations-v
holiday periods. A
,9993.. ,.
V
ALL OF INTERSTATE 95 IN THE CITY OF MIAINII
What the ordinance would do
Ganges to Miami's sign ordinance would keep signs
confined to ;heavily induStrial and commercial areas,
and.
1) Allow them to face expressways with 600 feet of
the right-of-way;
2) Increase their maximum height f rum 30 to 50 f eet
as measured from the crown of the expressway, or
65 feet as measured from the nearest adjacent local
road;
3) Require 1.500 fact of space between expressway sign
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FMS MAYOR MAURICE FERRE AND COMMISSIONERS,
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PRESti)ENTES DE IIONC)R
Ihn'avio Agwrre
Mailltiel Fialado
11I1ES IDENTE
Eloy Ii Gorilez
VICE-PRESIDI;NTE S
Elltitho Nurie,z
Willimn Alex.urder
\)rgilhe I't,rez
Anihtrim C Rivas
Adalcr•rto Ruiz
Mann 1'e-stomt
Alberto 1puirantes
SECRETARIO
Fcrna nh, t arr.uidi
VICE-SECRETARIOS
Malmel Vega
Ilunmberlo.l i'rllim
TESORF:RO
(Irlamlo N;iranjo
VICE -TF.SOREROS
Angel Fandirio
('edro Alhuernt,
DIRECTOR DE
REI.AC'IONES EXTERIORF,S
.lay Rodriguez
VICE -1)IRFCTORES OF
REI.ACIONF:S F,XTFRIORES
Jose Ehats Bello
Atmado .L Acosta
DIRFCTORES
Armando Gutierrez
A. Armwido Alejamire
Fermtndo Rodriguez
F'raincisvo F'igneredo
F:Inter I.evva
Alotlesto 6oniez
Horacio S. Garrta
Elio A. GonzMez
Mauuel Itodriguez
Mario t 1. Gumerrez
Ricardo V.tidrs Plorvs
Teresa 'Lubiz.rreut
VICE -PRESIDE NTF EJECUTIVO
Luis sabim s
PAST PRESIDF.NTES
Eliseo Itiera t;tinuz
Gilbeno Aitneida
Mwitiel liailadb
Rogeho Nurius
Imis Sabines
ASESORES LEGALES
Pedro Ramon I.6pez
Luciano Isla
ASESOR MPOTECARIO
Abel Holtz
April 16, 1985
Mr. Maurice A. Perre
Mayor
City of Miami
3500 Pan American Drive
Miami, Florida 33133
Dear Mr, Ferre:
The Board of Directors of the Latin Chamber of Commerce
of the United States (CAMACOL) agree to support the
Committee Against Expressway Billboards (CAEB) and
commend their efforts in their fight against these
signs.
Miami is a growing metropolis both nationally_ and
internationally recognized for its natural beauty.
Despite our phenomenal growth, we have managed to
maintain, through hard work, a lovely city full of
trees and with a impacting view of the beautiful ocean
which surrounds us.
We hope that by supporting CAEB, keep all the positive
things about Miami alive as well as contribute to stop
those things which are negative.
We urge you to consider not changing the 1962 Law and
continue to work togelt making Miami the wonderful
and pleasant place it i� o live.
Sincerely
4.-'uy,eGonz�ale4//Fernando Carrandi
President Secretary
EBG:pa
CENTEO DE INFORMACION *INFORMATION CENTER
Todas las donaciones son deducibles de impuestos • All donations are fully tax deductible
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SCI10 11. OF ANC111 EC"11'IZ1f
(3u5) 8r•308
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Coral (A)Ie%. FL 33 12 i
To the Honorable Mayor and Commissioners, City of Miami:
Resolved that the quality of the urban environment would
be greatly diminished by the presence of billboards visible
from expressways within the City of Miami, and that the
faculty of the School of Architecture, University of Miami,
respectfully urge the City Commission to reject the
proposed changes to the sign ordinance.
Unanimously approved April 16, 1985
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Colonel ►iobhy h. lluActt, birertor C. W. Keith, bitertne Charles J. Brantley, birertar W. B. Kaufman. bfrertar
April 11t 1985
Mr. Eugene A. Hancock
President
E. A. Hancock Advertising
C/o Rick Sisser
3510 Biscayne Blvd.
Suite 312
Miami, t_-I 33137
Dear Mr. Hancock:
The Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles was recently involved
in a statewide billboard campaign directed at drunk driving.
This campaign was made possible through the cooperation of the Florida
Outdoor Advertising Association whose members donated billboard space through-
out the State.
The outdoor advertising media is frequently called on by this agency to
support various highway safety programs. We feel this method of conveying
a message to the motoring public has been very successful.
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Leonard R. Mellon
Executive Director
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LISBON, Portugal President Reagan is return-
ing home today from a symbol laden, fotir•nation
trek through Europe that renewed painful memories
of World War 11. saluted democracy and set a stern
tone for talks with the Soviet Union.
Reagan said yesterday it had been a long journey,
"but one fruitful in results and rich in memory."
Aides, acknowledging there were problems on the
trip, busily accentuated the positive and declared the
10-day trip to Germany, Spain, Prance and Portugal a
success.
"There have been a few glitches here and there,"
chief of staff Donald T. Regan said. "But overall, this
has been an excellent trip."
Secretary of State George P. Shultz, who flew
from Lisbon to Tel Aviv last night, called it "a very
hard working trip ... But, f think it's all been really
worthwhile..,."
Reagan ended the trip on an upbeat note with a
state visit to Portugal, a founding member of the
NATO alliance and a staunch U.S. ally.
It was a welcome rest from a string of difficult sit-
uations: a seven -nation summit that failed to agree an
a U.S. proposal for setting a date on starting interiftA6
tional trade talks; a state visit to Nest Germany that
included a controversial wreath -laying ceremony at a
cemetery containing Nazi SS graves; a state visit to
Spain, whose leaders expressed opposition to U.S:
economic sanctions against Nicaragua, and a major
speech in Strasbourg, France, marred by hecklers.
Yesterday, Reagan hit at Soviet and Nicaraguan
leaders and expressed hope for a time when totalitari,
an rule "is only a sad and distant memory."
Reagan said he was not surprised that Nicaraguan
President ,Daniel Ortega %•isited Moscow last week.
"That's his patron saint," Reagan declared.
In the last speech of the tour before the Portuguese
National Assembly. yesterday , Reagan declared that
the free West learned after World War 11 it Is not -
enough "only to wish for peace."
"Instead, we accepted reality. We took seriously
those who threatened to end the independence of our
nations and our peoples, and we did what peoples
who value their freedom must do -- we joined to-
gether in a great alliance," Reagan said.
NOTICE OF AMENDMENT TO THE.CIT,Y OF MIAMI
COMPREHENSIVE ZONING 0 .01h ANCE
AND THE MIAMI CITY 'C ZE
AT THE SCHEDULED REGULAR MEETING OF THE COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF MIAMI FLORIDA TO BE HELLI;0N THU.RSDAY- Mi Y 23' 1995
WILL CONSIDER AT 9:00
FOEIN UING ITEMS RELLA,AT TEDCTO THE PLANNING AAMERICAN
D ZON NNGDPORTION OF' THERAGENOA FOR FINAL R� NG AND
ADOPTION THEREOF;
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE TEXT OF ZONING ORDINANCE NO. 9500,THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE _CITY OF MIAMI_FLORIDA, BY
I..
THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION PROPOSES TO AMEND THE ZONING ORDINANCE 9500, AS AMENDED, AND THE MIAMI CITY CODE. A PUBLIC
HEARING WILL BE HELD ON THURSDAY MAY 23 1985 COMMENCING AT 9:00 AM AT CITY HALL, 3500 PAN AMERICAN DRIVE MIAMI FLOR•
IDA; TO CONSIDER THE FOLLOWING ITEMS RELATEd TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING PORTION OF THE AGENDA FOR FIRST RWING
ONLY;
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE ZONING ATLAS OF ORDINANCE NO 9500 THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA, BY
APPLYING THE HC4: COMMERCIAL AREA HERITAGE CONSERVATION MALAY DISTRICT TO THE "DU PUIS MEDICAL OFFICE AND DRUG-
STORE " LOCATED AT APPROXIMATELY 6D4145 N.E. 2ND AVENUE (MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED HEREIN)- MAKING FINDINGS
ADOPTING AND INCORPORATING BY REFERENCE THE "DESIGNAY& REPORT'; AND BY MAKING ALL THE NECESSARY CHANGES 64
PAGE 14 OF SAID ZONING ATLAS; CONTAINING A REPEALER PROVISION AND A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.
THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION PROPOSES TO AMEND THE ZONING ORDINANCE 9500 AS AMENDED, AND THE MIAMI CITY CODE: A PUBLIC
HEARING WILL BE HELD ON THURSDAY, MAY 23,1985, COMMENCING AT 9:00 AM IN 6ITY HALL, 3500 PAN AMERICAN DRIVE, TO CONSIDER
THE FOLLOWING ITEMS RELATED TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING PORTION OF THE AGENDA;
A RESOLUTION CLOSING VACATING, ABANDONING AND DISCONTINUING THE PUBLIC USE OF A PORTION OF NORTHWET STH AND 6TH
AVENUES NORTHWEST 5'TH COURT, NORTHWEST I I TERRACE AND NORTHWEST 12TH AND 13TH STREETS; ALL AS A CONDITION OF AP-
PROVAL bFTENTATIVE PLAT #1240-A"BOOKER T, WASHINGTON JR. HIGH".
A RESOLUTION CLOSING VACATING ABANDONING AND DISCONTINUING THE PUBLIC USE OF THAT PORTION OF MIAMARINA PARKWAY
DRIVE AT BAYFRONT,PAI'IK LOCATEb SOUTH OF PORT BOULEVARD AND EAST OF BISCAYNE BOULEVARD ALL AS A CONDITION OF AP-
PROVAL OF TENTATIVE PLAT # 1167.8 "BAYFRONT PARK". _
`A SUBDIVISION IN THE CITY OF MIAMI; AND ACCEPTING THE
rHE CITY MANAGER AND THE CITY CLERK TO 04CUTE THE
RECORDS OF DADE COUNTY. FLORIDA.
OF A DEVELOPMENT
ITED AT APPRQXIMA-
A
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TEMPORARY C VIC ANDIN EIPOLIYICAL
TIVELY, IN CR AND CG DISTRICTS:1
THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION PRO
HEARING WILL BE HELD ON THUR;
LOWING ITEMS RELATED TO THE P
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FOR A PUBLIC H�pRING:CONSOER THE ISSUANCE OF A DEVEL0
REGIONAL IMPACt TO BE LOCATED AT 1111 BRICKELL AVENUE, AN DI
WtNtNd A11:00 AM; IN CITY HALL, 3506 PAN AMERICAN OWE. TO Is=
Ili ORDINANCE 9500 AS AMENDED, AND THE MIAMI CItY CODE. A rUI3LIe
3-30 PM iNN CITY HALL, 3500 PAN AMERICAN DRIVE, TO CANSID R THE
lAtON OF ?HE AGENDA
if RiAAA At. AAA! fLu ,rwr ,.... --'. +'— A. Ain kk+06A M 14"hiftoft
3500 PAN AMt AND THE
DRIVE MO CONS DER THE FOL '
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N 300, THEREOF: CONTAINING A REPEA
�E OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA, BY
kSHES." TO REQUIRE A SPECIAL EXCEI
-1N BANKS, TICKET SELLING SPACE C
AND BEVERAGE SALES. AND LAUNDR
OF ORDINANCE N0.9500 THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MIAMI. FLORIDA, BY AMENDING
1.2 OF SECTION 2102 ENTITLED "NONCONFORMING LOTS." TO PROVIDE THAT NONCONFORMING
IT" EXCEPTION AND RULE FOR LOT DIVISION MUST MAINTAIN THE SAME COMMON FRONTAGE AND
CONTAINING A REPEALER PROVISION AND A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE
SES TO AMEND THE ZONING ORDINANCE 9500, AS AMENDED, AND THE MIAMI CITY CODE. A PUBLIC
Y MAY 23, 1985 AFTER 5:00 PM IN CITY HALL, 3500 PAN AMERICAN DRIVE, TO CONSIDER THE FOL-
IWING AND ZONING PORTION OF THE AGENDA;
OF ORDINANCE NO. 9500. AS AMENDED, THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MIAMI FLORIDA
anti Ira;o TO At I OW TEMPORARY CIVIC AND POLITICAL CAMPAIGN SIGNS: SUBSECTIONSt 2025.1.19
,TEMPORARY POLITICAL CAMPAIGR SIGNS, SUBJECT R BY {TO THEIPROVISIONS OLE FF DIS--
SUBSEC-
I, RG-2; RG-2.1, RG-2.2, AG-2.3 AND RG-3 DISTRICTS; AND PAGES 4 AND 5, TO ALLOW
REPEALER PRS ON AND ATO THE ISEV NS ERABILITY CLAUSEOF S 2025.3.11 AND 2025.3.12 RESPEC-
ND THE ZONING ORDINANCE 9500, AS AMENDED, AND THE MIAMI CITY CODE. A PUBLIC
1985 AFTER 6:30 PM IN CITY HALL, 3500 PAN AMERICAN DRIVE, TO CONSIDER THE FOL-
IONING PORTION OF THE AGENDA FOR FINAL READING AND ADOPTION THEREOF;
OF ORDIANANCE 9500. THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA BY
IE AREA GENERALLY BOUNDED BY SOUTHWEST 2ND AVENUE, SOUTHWEST 17TH RdAD,
IN 300, THEREOF: CONTAINING A REPEALER PROVISION AND SEVERABILITY
'E NO. 9500. THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA, BY
IERALLY BOUNDED BY THE 1-95 EXPRESSWAY, METRORAIL RIGHT-OF-WAY
rARALLEL TO AND APPROXIMATELY 210 FEET NORTHEAST OF SOUTHWEST
ILY DESCRIBED HEREIN) FROM RS-2/2 ONE -FAMILY DETACHED RESIDENTIAL
MAKING ALL THE NECESSARY CHANGES ON PAGE NO.37 OF SAID ZONING
;E AND DESCRIPTION IN ARTICLE 3, SECTION 300, THEREOF: CONTAINING A
;E NO. 9500, THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA. BY
IALOR5DESIEAAIZ(MORE
NGSAY
ESIDENTTO-3/RDNTIL-OFFICE,,MIFINDNDBl
'AID ZONING ATLAS MADE A PART OF ORDINANCE NO, 9500, BY REFERENCE
TAINING A REPEALER PROVISION AND A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.
'F NO. 9..W- THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MIAMI. FLORIDA. BY
MAINV u�+n�.. ...............
MAKING ALL THE NECESSARY CHA GES ON PAGE N0.37 OF SAID ZONING ATLAS MADE PARTORDINANCE BY REFERENCE
AND DESCRIPTION IN ARTICLE 3, SECTION 300, THEREOF; CONTAINING A REPEALER PROVISION AND SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.
Copies of this proposed Ordinances and Resolutions are available for review at the Planning and Zoning Boards Administration Department, 275
N.W.- 2 Street, Room 230, Miami, Florida.
The Miemi City Commission request that all interested parties be present or represented at this meeting and are invited to express their views.
Should any person desire to appeal any decision of the City Commission with respect to any matter to be considered at this meeting, that peraat
shall insure that a verbatim record of the proceedings is made including all testimony and evidence upon which any appeal may be based (F/S
2fI8.0105).
i° Aurelio E Perez•Lugones
Deputy City Clerk
Director, Piann" and Zoning
BoardsAdminiiiration Department
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Before the undersigned authority personally appeared Bill Jesson
who on oath says that he is the Retail Advertising Office Manager of
The Miami Herald and The Miami News, daily newspaper (s) published
at Miami in Dade County, Florida.
He further says that the advertisement for CITY OF MIAMI #2786
was published in the issue or issues of THE MIAMI NEWS on
MAY loth, 1985
for the above publication (s) as'per the attached invoice.
Affiant further states that the said THE MIAMI HERALD/NEWS are
newspapers published at Miami, in said Dade County, Florida, and
that the said newspapers have here -to -fore been continuously
published in said Dade County, Florida, each day, and have been
entered as second class mail matter at the Post Office in Miami,
in said Dade County, Florida, for a period of one year nest
preceding the first publication of the advertisement.
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Reagan toasts Portuguese President Antonio Ramalho Eanes in Lisbon
Analysis
'resident's trip to Europe mars
U.S. image, erodes his standing
ROBERT TIMBERG
TM bsitfmor• Sun
LISBON For President Reagan
- after Bonn, Bitburg, Bergen -Bel -
sell, Strasbourg and Madrid - Lis-
ton was to be refuge, solace, a
place where the issues were small
and manageable and the worst
that could happen was that some
communists, might stage a polite
walkout.
It was. Lisbon thus occupies a
unique place in the ragged annals
of Reagan's seemingly jinxed trip-
-it was the only place where
hopes, however limited, were real-
ized.
The president, after etching his
breath here during a 4I-hour state
visit, limps home today secure in
the knowledge that, whatever the
post-Bitburg fall -out, this trip is in
the can.
"I think in the most profound
sense it has been a successful trip,'
Secretary of State George P.
Shultz told reporters late yester-
day. On Reagan's performance,
the secretary said, "1 think he has
done an absolutely (pause, search-
ing for just the right word) great
job.'
About three months ago, a se-
nior White House aide said, "It's a
lovely little cemetery.' as he ran
down the itinerary for Reagan's
trip for a handful of reporters.
The stop at the military ceme-
tery in the obscure town of Bit.
burg was to be a short one, maybe
20 minutes, a photo opportunity.
But. in the past month, Bitburg
had achieved world class standing
as a word that seerns to say it all.
Last Monday, for no easily dis-
then he arrived here ten days
ago.
BI l'BtIR(;:
Thf, president has enraged Jews
throughout the world by visiting
the cemetery.
Because of Bitburg, the U.S.--
scen by many as the liberator of
European Jews during the war -
suddenly became the target of pro-
tests by many concentration camp
survivors, their families. friends
and many others.
Reconciliation with West Ger-
many was accomplished, but was
it necessary or merely a solution in
search of a problem?
I3ONN ECONOMIC SUMMIT:
The U.S. went into the summit
having publicly stated on a num-
ber of occasions that its major goal
was to win the endorsement of its
six summit partners for a new
round of trade talks in early 1986.
The president could not bring it
off as French President Francois
Mitterrand, like a resurrected
Charles de Gaulle, stopped him
cold.
Asked yesterday what would
constitute success in his talks next
week with Soviet Foreign Minister
Andrei A. Gromyko, Schultz re-
plied, "Oh, you know. I ant secre-
tary of state. My trips aren't suc-
cessful. I just talk to people.'
FRANCO-AMERICAN RELA-
TIONS:
Not good, though Speakes said
Reagan never grew so frustrated
with President Mitterrand that he
worked a name change into his fa-
mous "Dammit, Pierre' comment
directed at then Canadian Prime
Minister Pierre C. Trudeau at last
vear's summit in London.
support early trade talks.
SPAIN:
The president arrived the 4y
after 300,000 Spaniards demon-
strated against him and his poli-
cies, especially the Nicaraguan
trade embargo. Perhaps his major
goal during two days of meetings
with Spanish leaders was to fore-
stall any a reduction in the 12,000
U.S. navy and air force contingent
based in Spain. He left with a low-
ering of the American presence
seemingly a foregone conclusion,
NICARAGUA:
U.S. policy toward Nicaragua al•
ways has been an issue in Europe.
but Reagan made it unavoidable,
imposing his trade embargo short-
ly after Air Force One touched
down in Bonn May 1, By the end
of the trip, nearly every leader he
met with expressed deep reserva.
tions about it.
NEGATIVE BAGGAGE GOING
HOME:
Quite a bit, including a comment
from White House chief of staff
Donald T. Regan on the CBS
Morning News yesterday that, if it
gets wide circulation, is not likely
to endear him to Hispanics in the
U.S, and elsewhere.
Speaking about Nicaragua, he
said that the president will be ,si.
lently applauded' by Latin Ameri=
can nations for the embargo even
if they don't actually "come out
and say so.' Then he added,
"That's only natural. That's actu-
ally "come out and say so.' Then
he added, "That's oaly natuttl.
That's been the way. And we, in
the U.S. understand the Latin
mind.'
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chief of staff Donald
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Secretary of Stas
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hard working trip ,
worthwhile...."
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state visit to Portu-
NATO alliance and a'
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ing home today from a symbol laden, foot-h9t1on
trek through turope that renewed painful memories
of World War 11. saluted democracy and set n stern
tone for talks with the Soviet Union.
Reagan said yesterday it had been a long journey,
"but one fruitful in results and rich in memory:'`
Aides, acknowledging there were problems on the
trip, busily accentuated the positive and declared the
10•day trip to Germany; Spain, France and Portugal a
success.
"There have been a few glitches here and there,"
chief of staff Donald T. Megan said. "gut overall, this
has been an excellent trip."
Secretary of State George P. Shultz, who flew
from Lisbon to Tel Aviv last night, called it "a very
hard working trip , :. But, I think it's all been really
worthwhile...."
Reagan ended the trip on an upbeat note with a
state visit to Portugal, a founding member of the
NATO alliance and a staunch U.S. ally,
It was a welcome rest from a string of difficult sit -
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uations: a sevownation summit that tailed to agree tm
a U.S. proposal for setting a date on starting iHtefita.
tional trade talks; a state visit to West Germany that
Included a controversial wreath laying ceremony at a
cemetery containing Nazi SS graves,, a state visit to
Spain. whose leaders expressed opposition to U.S.
economic sanctions against Nicaragua, and a major
speech in Strasbourg, France, marred by hecklers:
Yesterday, Reagan hit at Soviet and Nicaraguan
leaders and expressed hope for a time when totalitati,
an rule "is only a sad and distant memory,"
Meagan said he was not surprised that Nicaraguan
President Daniel Ortega visited Moscow last week.
"That's his patron saint," Reagan declared.
in the"last speech of the tour before the Portuguese
National Assembly .yesterday , Reagan declared that
the free West learned after World War 11 it is not`
enough "only to wish for peace."
"Instead, we accepted reality. We took seriously
those who threatened to end the independence of out
nations and our peoples. and we did what peoples
who value their freedom must do — we joined to-
gether In a great alliance," Reagan said.
NOTICE OF AMENDMENT TO THE ..CITY,. QF MIAMI
COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ORDNANCE
AND THE MIAMI CITY CODE y
T THE SCHEDULED REGULAR MEETING OF THE COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA, TO 4 HEM,01NI THUR$DAY, MAY 23 =1995
OMMENCING AT 9.00 A.M. IN ITS CHAMBERS, AT CITY HALL 3500 PAN AMERICAN DRIVE MIAMI FLORIDA;,TT}H}E MIAMI CITYOM CMlb§i6R
TILL CONSIDER THE FOLLbWING ITEMS RELATED TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING PORTION Or THE AGENDKFOR FINAL READING AND
DOPTION THEREOF;
N ORDINANCE AMENDING THE TEXT OF ZONING ORDINANCE NO.95G0_ THE 20NING nAnINANrF OF THE r1TV nF weu, c1 MiMA ov
AMEND
ELATEd
BY
ROVISION AND A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE
ONCE 9600, AS AMENDED, AND THE MIAMI CITY CODE, A PUBLIC
SAM AT AND ZONING PORT(6N OF THE AGENDA FOR FIRSMIAMI
RIEWNNGG
THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA. BY
RLAY DISTRICT TO THE "DU PUTS MEDICAL OFFICE AND DRUG-
DRE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED HEREIN)- MAKING FINDINGS'
:PA r,; AND
Y AAKIIUGALL THE NECESSARY CHANGES OFI
CLA
,NCE 96M AS AMENDED, AND THE MIAMI CITY CODE. A PUBLIC
00 AM IN 61TY HALL, 35M PAN AMERICAN DRIVE, TO CONSIDER
I OF THE AGENDA:
THE PUBLIC USE OF A PORTION OF NORTHWET 5TH AND 6TH
HWEST 12TH AND 13TH STREETS; ALL AS A CONDITION OF AP,
THE PUBLIC USE OF THAT PORTION OF MIAMARINA PARKWAY
EAST OF BISCAYNE BOULEVARD ALL AS A CONDITION OF AP-
4CE 9500 SCHEDULE OF DISTRICT REGULATIONS, PAGE 4 CIF 6, 1
RUCTURES,TO PERMIT A DRIVE-IN FACILITY FOR THE FLORIDA
NANCE95W AS
'ILITY jCBRF� AT
PLANS ON FILE.
10 FAMILY►..
EXCEPTION AS
AMUNITY BASE�)-p
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VERAF RESIDEN-
ACCEPTING THE
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LISTED IN ORDINANCE 9,", AS AMENDED, ARTICLE 20, SECTION 2034 2 2 PrRMITT]Nr� THE T Tn T i ; n +MAItINITV BASED
RESIDENTIAL FACILITY CBRF) AT 1351 SOUTHWEI 2.3RD STREET, ALSO OtSt.1318E F A`� ( v, t HFNANDOAH
++t4 55 AS PER PLANS GN FILE, FOR A MAXIMUM OF FIVE (5) RESIDENTS AND ONF I j I Ai f na, kj + ; NERAL RESIDEW
t'IAL (DNEAND TWO FAMILY).
A AESOLLITIION ACCEPTING THE PLAT ENTITLED "PAPANICOLAOU TRACT", A 5UBDIVI ..!0N IN NIF ( IT+' Or MIAMI, AND ACCEPTING THE
DEDICATIONS SHOWN ON SAID PUT' AND r_
AI VORIZING AND DIRECTING THE CITY MANA6FP ANT) T�I.r: ' • CLERK irk EXECUTE THE
PLAT AND PROVIDI40 FOR THE RECOADATION OF SAID PLAT IN THE PUBLIC RECORDS OF DADS GOUNt r r [ORIDA
THE MIAMI CITY. COMMISSION PROPOSES TO AMEND THE ZONING ORDINANCE 9500. AS AMENDE41 ANT THE +MIAMI CITY COOS A PUBLIC
MEETING WILL BE HELD ON THURSDAY MAY 23, 1985, COMMENCING At 9:00 AM IN CITY HALL IF CT PAN AME RICAN DRIVE. MIAMI, FLOR.
IDA, TO CONSIDER THE FOLLOWING ITEMS RELATED TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING PORTION & FIIE AGENDA.
A RESOLUTION ESTABLfSHING JULY 25 1985, AS THE DATE FOR A PUBLIC HEARING CONSIOERIN+, 1HF I:,Sllnrlt'.E Ot A nEvFLOpMENt
ORDER FOR THE BRICKELL SQUARE PROJECT PHASES 11 AND fit A DEVELOPMENT OF REGiONAL IMPdr T 10 Sr.. t OCA TEDAI APPROXIMA-
TELY 845-0" 8RICKELL AVENUE AND DIRECTING THE CITY CLERK TO NO FY THE AARf RQPR14A . A vlf�
Aht
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L4M E LOOA q 11111 BgICK LL A NU�, A
ECTING THE OLEA11+��1
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EL PM fit bI OEI T$g5; ,tl�iMOCAff f :011 AM, IN CITY HAIL, 3600 PAN Ai�E�ICAN bA11iEX, to I�&
HEAR HEARING MIAMI
AtOHI D ON lRW PROPOSES, MAY 23 N19B6 A : PMAP arty R�4 a6� o�PA ' MEAICANMDRIVE TOtCOONS�Ib AU E
PROJECT DEVELOPMENT ORDER; AND DIRECTING THE CITY CLERK TO SEND TH15 HESOLUIIUN IU AhhtU1tU A1Jt14Wtb ANU IHt
DEVELOPER.
THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION PROPOSES TO AMEND THE ZONING ORDINANCE 9500, AS AMENDED AND THE MIAMI CITY CODE, A PUBLIC
HEARING WILL BE HELD ON THURSDAY MAY 23, 1985 AFTER 6:00 PM IN CITY. HALL, 3500 PAN AMSRICAN DRIVE, TO CONSIDER THE FOL-
LOWING ITEMS RELATED TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING PORTION OF THE AGENDA;
A RESOLUTION FOR FORMALIZING MOTION 86-460• APRIL 19, 1985 WAIVING THE TIME LIMITATIONS BETWEEN REZONING OF PROPERTY
LOCATED AT APPROXIMATELY 3161.3199 S.W. 27 AVENUE, 2660 LINCOLN AVENUE AND 2699 TIGERTAIL AVENUE, MORE PARTICULARLY
DESCRIBED AS LOTS 1 THROUGH 6 INCLUSIVE BLOCK F AMENDED PLAT OF NEW BISCAYNE ttB-161 PER SECTION 3514.5 OF ZONING OR•
DINANCE 9500 IN ORDER TO FACILITATE THE D6`VELOPME'NT OF THE CITY IN CONTEXT OF THE ADOljtED COMPREHENSIVE PLAN,
THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION PROPOSES TO AMEND THE ZONING ORDINANCE 9500, AS AMENDEDN AM AND THE MIAMI CITY CODE. A PUBLIC
FOL-
LOWING RELATEDOTO THE PLANNING AND ZONING PORTION OFTHETHE AGENDA F3500 OR FINAL READING AAN ND DRIVE, TO
THEREOF; HE
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE ZONING ATLAS OF ORDINANCE NO. 9500, THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA BY
CHANGING THE ZONING CLASSIFICATION OF APPROXIMATELY 3151.3199 SOUTHWEST 27TH AVENUE, 2660 LINCOLN (AVENUE AND 1699
R.
LAY 7O RGA-2l6NGENERALIRESIDENTIAL I[WETHOUT�SP 3 OVERLAY)IMEAKING FINDINGS AND 9GENERAL
MAKING RESIDENTIAL
NECESSARY CHANGES
ON RAGE NO. 45 OF SAID ZONING ATLAS MADE A PART OF ORDINANCE NO. 9500 BY REFERENCE AND DESCRIPTION IN ARTICLE 3, SEC-
TION 300, THEREOF; CONTAINING A REPEALER PROVISION AND A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE ZONING ATLAS OF ORDINANCE NO.9500, THE ZONING ATLAS OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA, BY CHAN-
ING THE ZONING CLASSIFICATION OF APPROXIMATELY 3151.3199 SOUTHWEST 27 AVENUE. 2660 LINCOLN AVENUE AND 2699 TIGERTAIL
AVENUE MIAMI, FLORIDA (MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED HEREIN) FROM G-2/6 GENERAL RESIDENTIAL PD-MU PLANNED DEVELOP-
MENT MIXED USE MAKING FINDINGS; AND BY MAKING ALL THE NECESSARY CHANGES ON PAGE NO. 45 OF SAID ZONING ATLAS MADE A
PART OF ORDINANCE NO.9500 BY REFERENCE AND DESCRIPTION IN ARTICLE 3, SECTION 300, THEREOF; CONTAINING A REPEALER PROVI-
SION AND A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE TEXT OF
SUBSECTIONS 2102.2.1.1 AND 2102.2.1.2
LOTS UTILIZING THE "EIGHTY PERCENT"
ORIENTATION AS THE PREVIOUS LOTS; C
THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION PROPOSE:
HEARING WILL BE HELD ON THURSDAY, I
LOWING ITEMS RELATED TO THE PLANNII
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE TEXT OF
BY AMENDING SECTIONS 1520, 15% and
TIONS 2025.3.12, IN THE RS-1 RS-1.1, RS-2 RG-1. FIG-2RG-2.1, P
TEMPORARY CIVIC AND POLITICAL CAMPAIbN SIGNS SOBJECT TO
TIVELY, IN CR AND CIS DISTRICTS; CONTAINING A REPEALER PROVI
THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION PROPOSES TO AMEND THE ZONING
HEARING WILL BE HELD ON THURSDAY, MAY 23; 1985 AFTER 6:30
LOWING ITEMS RELATED TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING PORTION
3 DISTRICTS 0-1 AND CR-1 TO REQUIRE SPECIAL EXCEPTION, WITH AP -
HAT DO NOT PROVIDE THE MINIMUM NUMBER OF RESERVOIR SPACES;
ED "NONCOOD ORMING LOTS,CITO PROV EI THAT NONCONFORMING
M LOT DIVISION MUST MAINTAIN THE SAME COMMON FRONTAGE AND
+ROVISION AND A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.
ORDINANCE 9500, AS AMENDED, AND THE MIAMI CITY CODE. A PUBLIC
PM IN CITY HALL, 3500 PAN AMERICAN DRIVE, TO CONSIDER THE FOL-
OF THE AGENDA;
AMENDED, THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA.
kt:f
4GES 4 AND 5, T
1 t AND 2025.3.12
AND ADOPTION THEREOF;
FINDINGS' AND BY MAKING ALL THE NECESSARY CHANGES ON PAGE NO. 37 OF SAID ZONING ATLAS MADE A PART OF ORDINANCE NO.
95130, BY REFERENCE AND DESCRIPTION IN ARTICLE 3, SECTION 300, THEREOF; CONTAINING A REPEALER PROVISION AND SEVERABILITY
CI OI LCF
Copies of the proposed Ordinances and Resolutions are ayailabie for review at the Planning and Zoning Boards Administration Department, 275
N.W. 2 Street, Room 230, Miami, Florida
The Miami City Commission request that all interested parties be present or represented at this meeting and are invited to express their view&
Should any person desire to appeal any decision of Pia City Commission with respect to any matter to be considered at this meeting, that parson
Mail insure that a verbatim record of the proceedings is made including all testimony and evidence upon which any appeal may be based (F/S
288,0105).
Aurelio E. Perez-Lugones
Deputy City Cleric
Director, Planning and Zoning
BoardsAdministration Department
in
(Ad No. 2786)