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HomeMy WebLinkAboutCC 1985-09-09 MinutesMINUIES OF SPECIAL MEETING` OF THE CITY COXuXIISSILON OF M1At i; PLORIDA 4 On the 9th day of September, 19851 the City Gomftissibt, of N.iad i Floria, dal ffiet for a Budget Workshop at the the 18t fleet conference room of the Hickman Building a;, 275 N. , 2nd Streets 1`: afni, Florida. The meeting was called to order at y:12 O'Clock A.M. b;; Commissioner Dawkins with the following members of the Comcissioh found to be present; Commissioner Miller ,, Dawkins Commissioner J4 L. Plummer, ,3r. Mayor Maurice A. Ferre" * arrived 905 A.M. " arrived 9;25 A.M. ALSO PRESENT,. Sergio Pereira, City Manager Lucia Allen Dougherty, City Attorney Matty Hirai, City Clerk Note: Lucia Dougherty arrived at 9:25 A.M. ABSENT: Commissioners Perez and Carollo Mr. Dawkins As the only Commissioner here. I take it upon myself to declare it open and let's begin. Those who want to be here ought to be here. Mr. Pereirat As Mr. Dawkins has brought to our attention, this was scheduled for 9':00 A.M. and he has asked that we get started, so ... Mr. Dawkins: For those who missed it, we'll have a private hearing for them Sunday morning at 8:00 o'clock at Christ Episcopal Church. Will the Clerk note that it is 9:12 A.M. when we are starting, so that if anybody wants to com- plain, they can complain. Mr. Pereira: Go ahead, Chief. Chief Dickson: Well, what I've got written down here - it says "Good Morning, everyone". I have two versions of the budget presentation - the fast one, the medium and the slow, and I am going to do the fast one, because it is pretty well outlined here, where it easy to follow. If you want to ask any questions, I was going to ask you to hold them until after, but I would say just go ahead and butt right in and ask whatever questions you want to ask during the presentation. I have sort of an introduction speech geared to the budget to sort of get everyone acclimated to what it we are going to try and cover, but I am going to skip most of that. The information that I am about to present is an overview of our Police Department which includes where we are at the present time, our aignifiaant accomplishments and where we are attempting to be in the immediate future, our goals and objectives and how we hope to get there - our budget for the upcoming fiscal year. Also included in this presentation is an update in our status, however, in trying to review these areas for you, I would like to provide to you with the framework of con- etraints under which this budget was formulbted. Firai, this budget being submitted to reflect the realities of public sector ecoaomice and sot neces� sari.ly the realit ea of ideal Police enforcement. Tbore is probably a great d#al more that we could do that would coot &great deal more to do that, I world liise to go to pYerheBd Nupber p. eYiF�tng b lot here. We'�ust caved about 15 mi4utee, Significantwe will talk about. As you can see the ebart aveP the Past tw@lvo years, total minprity representbtiou of the Miami F.Qlioe DePaFtment has uhanged from �4%, 344 People i u 1974 to 7Q%V 99.1 14 1 $VPT,@xN_: ' 9, 195� —<y -RW", 1 i I r 1� t. During this period; -e6pre this year; whin represents a chang oa i$iliah t�eFresentation --noreased from 111 to ?l I a 2�t change; that the cost igniicant change occurred within the sworn rents, which changed from 22; eo le; to E,2, 65? people this year+ T 1 59 phat represents 236 change+ 1f F All sworn promotions that were minorities and wome`,i 54i of all swo%LfothaA t16ns we^f minorities and women+ re ;�:� t^ 1:rorb^lions, I have a questiohs, Y6u i`: Dawkins. �►.> you had =some b:act: officers; dale baid you had -2% minority. In 1 44, y have today? t�a^ftv-` Off ;,et.. y u `officers6 n_r; mar"mar"...p- .. e g t to hd64 Chief Dickson! I was going e � Mr, Dawkins! Okay; go right ahead; then, go tight ahead l can wait, Chief, Chief DicksuL; Okay, 64b of all swcrri promctions are minorities arad woner,. staff ositions were minorities, or women and the Of all prom:�ti,:r,s to sen P first; well, like Chief of Police in the hist�* of the City of "�ia�: was appointed on January o, 1yb5. During the fiscal year lab4-'S5 well, never rDlnd that. ne first female colone-1, female caltain Arid black CFi�ttir. In the history of the Department were appointed. In additiora, over 52t of the sEni�r staff members for the Police Department represent min,rit�es or worm. .here is the breakdown for senior staff people. Mr. Dawkins: And also, we don't see the City tits up when you get to eyour allow us to see your bottom graph that. y run P graphs. Chief Dickson: Yes, sir, Commissioner Dawkins, at the present time there are 170 Black sworn personnel in the Department and there are 424 Hispanics - Mr. Dawkins: Okay, what is the difference between sworn a sworn office: and a public service aide? Chief Dickson: Sworn officers are sworn police officers with all the powers of arrest. The public service aides are the para-professionals that do not have authorities to make arrests. Mr. Dawkins: So no public service aides is in this number that you are given me as sworn officers. Chief Dickson: No. ' Dawkins: A ` < Chief Dickson: Mr. Dawkins: Chief Dickson: tY Mr. Dawkins: Chief Dickson; s Mr. Dawkins: Chief Dickson: I guess somebody..get your act together„ now. They are not counted in that, no - Somebody here says yes. No, I don't count my public service aides withworn�Peo�e. °__ So you have 170. 170, yes, sire h So, in 30 years, we have piCCed 60 policeman. I suppose sot d the Citirens Against Mr. Dawkins: Even though the Chamber of Commerce an pyt DO 0 Crime appropriated more money, crying that we need more police, $toped to thiL+: that we were not getting a Cross-section from the total community. Chief Dickson; I suppose, Commissioner Dawkins, th4t you are right ... Mr. Dawkins: That is okay Cotr�fasioner Plu=er just askod • •: be the �►ou� Croup was ev�ra G: ,i •'s concert♦. i+^1�G .a } 4L not Co�tp1aiP3Ug� s' bringing ul wi44t *t 144tiC �.'% � Jrf; Q�, tin t •Y gill'? '` Mr. Dawkins: Even though the Chamber of Commerce an pyt DO 0 Crime appropriated more money, crying that we need more police, $toped to thiL+: that we were not getting a Cross-section from the total community. Chief Dickson; I suppose, Commissioner Dawkins, th4t you are right ... Mr. Dawkins: That is okay Cotr�fasioner Plu=er just askod • •: be the �►ou� Croup was ev�ra G: ,i •'s concert♦. i+^1�G .a } 4L not Co�tp1aiP3Ug� s' bringing ul wi44t *t 144tiC �.'% � Jrf; Q�, tin t •Y gill'? '` Chief Lck on. That is a , j ^in though sirt the 6� "r 6 I think that Police Departuent could probably do its Dwn recruiting a lit better than others, and we don' t d•o oar owr, recruiting atytore 4 When we did, we were able to do a much better job than what we are doing howr Mr. Dawk—Lins: I think it was Cottutissi,:)her Pluftite'r, and i wh•: suggested that a ,,eat of Sarah Ahlef•soh and somebody else = 1 think it was Jack Suilivan, should eiit in & card i;c' bpi_^c arid b- t the Bethufle CGJiDYai College, go to Plotida A 'i N, go to Florida Sib g . to i luversity of Plot.:.. — da, g to South Fi��rida in iatup8 ahi a}ts.7,r' � recruit these ifldlVidtialS. Por some teasori, Mr, Manager, 1-hAt ;eel through, Maybe they didn't have any honey. Chief Dickson; No, Commissioner Dawkins; we were restricted to just recruit in the City of Miami. When we are allowed to and we are how, to go out int3 the County and to the other areas of Greater Miami, Dade County, we will be able to do a Defter jot. in respect to the City- of Miami didn't allow very much Mr. Dawkins, At all of those schools, there are students from tnE City X iam i I Chief Dickson: I won't argue that point, but there are not manly. Mr, Dawkins: Chief, if we don't get but 20 from all five schools ... Chief Dickson: Yes, sir) that would help. Let's see the chart here respon. sible for recruiting .:, Okay, this is Overhead four that we are on now? Minorities and women represent 51.6% of the Department .,. Mr. Plummer: I've got to tell you, this is a total waste. I can't read it, 1 don't know about the rest of you! Mr. Dawkins: That red whatever it is ... Mr. Pereira: It is the light or something in there. Mr. Dawkins: No, the transparencies are red, and it makes it very poor reading. If the transparencies, Chief were light, we could see them, but .., Chief Dickson: Okay, at the present time, the Department is 51% minorities and women and 46.4% White males, for a total of 100p of our personnel. Mr, Plummer: How many sworn officers do you have in the burglary and robbery alarm ordinance? Chief Dickson: I will have that in one second. During the period from July. 1, 1984 through ... Mr. Plummer: I would like it right on down the line. How many sworn officers are in those positions doing work? Chief Dickson: It will take a second to be accurate with. Mr. Plummer; Well, the next question you can be thinking about is, why do you need any sworn officers at all? For example, in the Alarm Ordinance? And I have other sources we are going to go to afterwards, such as property roams, and a great deal of others. I read with interest that were you were going to shake them out of the station and put them on the street. Now, I haven't seen it so that is why I am going to get to all of this. Chief Dicr:son; Well, I have done that as much $s we can at the present time. The Alarm grdiJ34nee unit is one of those places that we are goine, to be looking at, Mr. Flummer; Well., it ,is ,strictly administrative , . chief AlGkeoP; We have already lQpked 8t that, and ... Xr. PJ er; Yes, tborfe ary up bad pup in the bl$rm M. 3 SePtz;abg r 9, 1955 q 3 r i } ! { d Chief Dickson! Arid it cah be civilianized) but the clvi.Liahization rracess has to be ihcluie3 in out future plannifig for civilianizatiobt We Just doti' t have civiliahs to put it that positions Mr, Plummer: That is why we ate here. Chief Dickson: in respzh,-._ to thE- questioi.j :- Burglary Aiatt Uhito there are two at+: -Ph personnel, Mt, Piu=er: Why` Chief Dickson: Why'' 1 have a sergeant wh., is in charge of the Burglary Aiar,,, Unit. Mr. Plummer why" Chief Dickson: I ... Mr, Dawkins! You inherited him = go ahead. Mr. Plummer: N6j it is not true. Chief Dickson: Yes, I did inherit him, but ... Mr. Plummer: Oh, 1 am sorry! You as Chief inherited him. okay, wil buy that. Chief Dickson: But, I don't agree that a sergeant is needed to run that unit. Mr. Plummer: Chief, you have been there for nine months! Chief Dickson: Well, yes, sir, I have. Fir. Plummer: Are we going to wait another nine months to give some more thought to it? All I am saying is, I think you know where I am coming from. I don't see any rational justification of why you have to have a sworn officer in an alarm office where all they are doing is processing permits. It is just absolutely, in my estimation, no justification for it. Now, we can go right on down the line. We are talking about putting more policemen on the streets, which is the criteria. We are talking about freeing up policemen today who are doing jobs that are not necessary to give them more time. Now, I think that is what we need to do during" this budget process as it relates to the Police Department, if in fact, the reason, and the only justification is, that you need more civilians, then I think that is what this Commission has to do, is .to set the priority. Now, the only way we can do that is to know the areas that are in fact, areas where they could be free ... traffic violations, how many policemen do you have working in traffic violations. If we have already identified, even though it is only two, that is two more than we had before. I think when you go down the line, you are going to find, or we are going to find that there is a hell of a lot more areas that sworn policemen are doing jobs that don't require sworn police. How many men do you have over there for court appearances? Chief Dickson: Court liaison? Mr. Plummer; Court liaison - how many sworn police officers? Chief Dickson; Five, Mr, Plumm. er: Why? Why is there a need? Look, the difference is this, sworn policeman, I don"t know what the uctual figure is today - Nano can give me .,. the actual sworn policemen, I can get 50 in the old budget, for every million dollere. I can get 76 civilians for a million dollars, I don't have the problems with the civilians that I have with the built in police of the mandatory heart attack bill, the otroke bill and the two-thirds problem, Now, all I Am saying is, if you come to me and say to me, "Co=- i.ssioners, here is the justification for a sworn GffiCEr in that then I can agree or dissgree, how Many do you h#ve In Report Processing, how many policemen do you have in Report rocesaang? Can you tell me hors many serge4uts that you have in Report Froceseing? Id 4 September 9,, 1 � 3 Chief Dickson: AFFroxz ,ate y Y our peopls j but thy team back here will tell you for sure ih a few seconds, Mr, Plummets iiow many sergeants? Zero? Butj faun police officers? lIAUilts,� t�ACKG' JI, ^rJ;. sfr.. } 4 Pitrs . Puers There were eleven, last yeat, It is set in the right dire,; ti`n Unidentified speaker: Now we have thirteen. Mr, Plummer: How many policemen d- you have in the Property Group? Chief Dicksob: SiX, Mr. Piu=er: How usuch? Chief Dickson: Six. Mr. Plummet'! Okay, you know, I think we need to go the line let me get to another point, How many P.S.A.'s do you presently have. Chief Dickson: About 62, a little over 60. Mr. Plummer: 62? And what do you proposing in this upcoming budget to expand f it to? { Chief Dickson: Additional 50 people. Mr. Plummer! That would be then 111, 112? Chief Dickson: Well, budgeted, there are 70 plus 50, about 120. Mr. Plummer: What is the starting salary of a P.S.A.? x '_. (INAUDIBLE BACKGROUND COMA:ENTS) Mr. Plummer: $25,000 with perks? Unidentified Speaker: $20,000. Mr. Plummer: With perks? Mr. Pereira: No, that is the whole ball of wax. w Mr. Plummer: What are showing as starting salaries of policemen? j t" f Mr. Pereira: $45,000. Mr. Plummer; How much? Chief Dickson: $45,000. Mr. Plummer; As starting salary with perks. ;y (INAUDIBLE BACKGROUND COMMENTS ' Mr. Plummer; Yes, T understand. Chief, when you come back tomorrow, I would like for you to wake an honest effort to go through every one of ,your units, okay? ... because I think it is our responsibility here, if it is civilian ration that is needed, and I am not betting to the whole controversial B.N.A. ' 411 right? •,.'but I think this Commission needs to put that civilianization where it is to Put these policemenback out on the streets not on the etreeta, but into police work, and the other thing than I want you to bring back to�oFrow, which doesn't FelBte to Leis, I want 8 full resort of how many PoliceZgg Ore no't doing full-time duties, I want, tiie 44mi a, and I also w44t how Long they �a ►e been off of f'ull_> jMe duty and tine rationale end ,�ustifi94 tion of why they are not being put boo! on full tame, and the bottom line of Id 5 50F$eLRQer 9, 1�0 El night i. that sofa Co¢issior,er, I beiieve, things that you pointed out, and hopefully the Chief vill be addressing ;1ztse ti,ir,E_ in presentation some of the initiative that we have underta::eu, hp•x:. �;t you are saying, you know, for exathpie, I will give you another f`eo sely what y with a badge and see if you agree with me. You know, we have a guy Im r.. ghd a gun, you know, tbu' gees tJ a hom�oide situation to take pictures. with a badge and a gun= Me neec: ay�ing that I don' t t!,ini� we need a guy but I am not :. someone tnat is trained to be a technician to take the pictures, Fiery sure that we need a sworn officer to do that. we totally agree with your concept and your direction. Mrs Plummer: Mr. Manager, what I am saying is this. This Commission is to w, set priorities. If in fact+ we find that there is 6 need far more civilians Y, then we have either got to find additional dollars, or in the Department, that is my juggle dollars. Okay+ bottom line. Chief Dickson: Thank you, Mr. Plummer Ma or Ferrel Mr. Manager and Chief, as I understand it, you have a full Y presentation that you are abo Okay,o make, think out tof ocourtesy Itohyou1 and elnthinre-. i between 9%00 and 9.30 A.M t E out of the flow of things that we ought to let you maze your statement and ,.,. could we hold back our questions until he finishes his preliminary statement. Then we will just write down I've got some questions that I have written, but I will come back to them after you have made your presentation, Chief. Chief Dickson: Thank you, Mr. Mayor I would like to catch up to where i was. Overhead Four, and Promotions, we did that. Overhead Five, Traffic, is where we were. Over $2,000,000 was generated as of June 30th from the various funds, the various units that generate funds for the City of Miami Police Department. Police Accident Resrtitutionlmoney,cwitnesstfees,T uncne laimed Escort, Traffic and Per + monoies, police I.D. etc., produced over $2,000,OOJ since June. Items re- ceived, as reflected on this flyer can either be converted to the Police Department use or placed for auction. If placed for auction, the proceeds are then deposited rts into the Law Enforcement Trust teal fdeposits made r future police to theLaw as approved by the Commission. overall, rmst Enforcement fund since its inception in August of 1981 exceeded 2.5 million dollars as well as the confiscationyou can of maser the hcharticles� heree8 request for vessels, jewelry and silver. As y >I police service has increased over 56� since 1977. This graph shows the actual cars dispatched form 1977 through 19st and our thererojeveryn quickly, the second second curve by the way, if we can step back quickly, the second curve curve, by the way, if we can stepback there very q y+ The levels to contrast the changictoberworkload 984against ugh June 30 1965stationary ,1pthere were next chart here shows from 0 + Department. almost 300,000 emergency 911 calls answered by the Miami Police {t. The emergency calls for 99.7% of these were within the required 20 seconds• of the calls dispatched r service increased .05% in 1985, vs. '83-'84• 91.5% between October 1, 1y84and une of of mmediate dispatches Prioritywere h4r, prioritized five tminutes; i Such as Priority 3, Priority 5, within one-half hour and Priority 6 calls within one hour. The gency telephone ;iambs Eire listed anon Atotal that Spanish speaking emer-emergency calls for average 911 calls per month is 24,763• The The Miami y;,:jce Department staffed and success# service per MOL:- :� ';�:�_. T *, 1964, through fully policed many sl.ec;�al units during the pe. od of October 1+ le without guns, 1965• These ev Is were attended by ever 3+5 million plop 4pifieaut incidents or injuries, In addition, these Special events havQ eire a�,d 1hu,565 tatai fevehie for the pity .f Miami 5n we issued 9v r xtt }.0 last yearY In SUme of the L>E',-.asY,-'ti5 tn3t we are all aware t1~l tr,e.. Bowls Calle Oeho► the Gottbsy, Buena Vista, etceteras are some of th'C- : 1f j1 y11ah9e C7 831Ons that were included hereY The Overtown At'n c Frograt an4 4h_ job, The Overtown Athletic Program was officiails began in Au�st of 198 . `.�.^ its inFN ception, this program has involved 5a; inner*city youths irl athletic activiti,�.;. tr, st, 7ivf` f. is hevt pa^ticipated in boxing, 200 v.. *eight lifting, 55 in soft -bail aiiu 4(� it, kar .: ;:-:e Overtowr, Athletic Program an? in January of 1 JS,: th=- Jvert:,wn Athletic Pr:,grac, begs„ and employment component i::r this effort has obt;sir,eJ 55 „its r kids, since its inception. For the peri,�d fr-.tm Jctober 1 , 1". t:,^: ug:. j�n_ 30, 1955, the Overtown Athletic Pr.6ram has ir,v:,ivea 1 6 yo3tt,s, trCrei� surpassing our 1984, 1985 goal of le', by 47z. For this same periLd, 16 ;ots were obtained for youths, thereby surpassing our 1954='85 goal by 5Df, Gr, crime watct: - cr:^e prevention activities just briefly; 51,85", s.,1ents Located in the schools cf Miami were presented with crime watch preve%tior, programs, drug prevention programs ani 92 potential gang members were identi- fled during the fiscal year. 10,531 residents attendei our crime prevent or. presentat.ons and of 3,164 were junior citizens. We had 45 business an.j residential security surveys made, which is very imp:trtant to this corm:unit and 532 business, residential crime watches were organized, wt,:ch invoivtl 4,160 people. Just briefly, we have a structure put up which has beer, there for some time now, which most of you are familiar with - the sub- cour,c. crime watch concept, which originated in tiie City of Miami in the sub -council still are going strong. We would like to move on tocrime index comparison. The Florida Department of Law Enforcement crime statistics for the first six months of this calendar are shown. Although total index crimes are ul 11; over the same period last year, a percentage change in motor, agbravated assault, total violent crimes, reflect a favorable trend downward. On August 9 Anti -Crime Initiatives - On August 9, 19o5, after carefully analyzing a myriad of complex factors associated with crime prevention and law enforce ment, the City Manager and I implemented a multi -faceted major initiative to combat crime. This initiative is composed of eleven points and include those areas reflected on the overhead. In addition, this initiative includes that z we assign all appropriate non -active duty status officers to administrative assignments the requirement that all non -undercover sworn personnel wear uniform while on official duty, the implementation of a patrol by objective system, the deployment of a new patrol force during peak hours in high profile areas, the augmentation and utilization of our major computer systems in support of police functions and increased and participation of other jurisoic- ;, tions, the emphasis that the roll of the task force to concentrate on direct n" action and that unique crime problems such as I-95 robberies and increased participation in local, county, state and national cooperative efforts and task force, such as Blue Lightning and the analysis and implementation of efforts toward civilianization (Mr. Plummer) of additional police functions. Special investigation activities - conviction for multiple Miami bombings - 24 charged documented leaders of terrorists gang group - a League of Seven investigators of the Miami Police Department were also instrumental in his conviction in New York on 23 counts relating to murder, bombings, conspiracy and explosives violations. There are other facts here that we will not necessarily go to at this time, but some are reflected up here, such as gambling investigations and narcotic trafficking and various arrests were made in that category. Special Investigation activities - the Special Investiga- tion Section of the Miami Police Department is charged with the investigation ` of highly sensitive and complex crimes which require long term comw: nt of resources and time. This section primarily investigates high level operations in the areas of gambling, narcotics, vice, corruption and terrorist activities and works closely with other local, state and federal law enforcement agen- cies. The most significant accomplishment during the fiscal year was the investigation and ultimate conviction of the documented leader of the terror- ist group, Omega Seven for multiple bombings within the City of Miaml. 24 charges were filed for the terrorist activities. In addition, our investigh- tors were instrumental in obtaining the Omega Seven conviction in New York on 23 counts involving murder, violence, and conspiracy and that's sort of repetitious. Street Narcotics Unit - The Street Narcotics Unit has been established oL January 22, 1985 in order to address the street level sellers of the legal drugs, or source of the illegal. drugs. Tne unit is composed of several experienc%;c �f cers from itirougt,orat the l,cl artmct.t and is emphasized in a coorolzuxted high intensity drive against drug figures within the City of Miami, The unit is operational on 4 daily basis during selected hours boaeo on identified needs and it works both wit'r, the State Attorney's office and other law enforcement agencies, various units within the Depsrtitent and community it serves, This is one of the units, Mr, Mayor and Commissioners, that you a ke m;. to put t:�gether months ago, You asked for a sustained drive; aho ttiat is whn, :)u , it is goii,e, %' 7 strong as strong as we were since their inception, l% hdditiot,, we have been successfully movitig and removing abd removine the following drugs f%ot the streets of our City: enough drugs con„'iscate to amount to tt;e removal of the following illegal drugs in the hands of students within the City of Miami; enough drugs for 1,3; capsules of cocaine per student will not reach this co=unity and 16 ,}pints of marijuana per student will not reach the community and 93*i of the studetts not obtaining dime Capsules of heroin, which represents 2,937 kids who would not be getting their hands on that stuff. In addition, the following miscellane- ous drugs haVe ais, been confiscated,. seven hashish, and pills a valiut, etcetera, to great numbers. Directed Patrol = there is a system designed to replace some portion of that time that traditionally has been devoted to random preventive patrols with prey -planned activities that direct patrol units to specific locations to engage in specific activities based on crittInai traffic and/or social problems on the analysis basis. Directed Patrol was system designed to replace some portion of that time that traditionally had been devoted to random patrols. Directed Patrol activities have Significantly decreased during the ►..(and this is important), *fiscal year 1984i'65, as compared to '83='84 due primarily to the utilization of Directed Patrol to sari numerous details such as Belle Meade and the burglary Grove detail as well as other handling Citizen and citizen's groups concerned. Bather than limiting the use of the Direct Patrol solely on scientific analysis basis. In other words, we have had to abort several Directed Patrol exercises because of spontaneous events occurring that we had to redeploy our people to, and therefore aborting the planned response to time. Calls For Service Response, special details and events and response to citizen's concerns have all negatively impacted upon the effectiveness of the Directed patrol concept. -Statistics for the period of January through June of 1985 reflects that Directed Patrol had planned 3,744 activities, yet they were only able to execute 2,602, which was about 70%. The remainder, the 1,142, or the 30% had to be canceled or broken. The definition of a canceled Directed Patrols, the planned Directed Patrol which was terminated prior to its implementation and the definition of.... directed patrol activity began, but not completed. Mounted Patrol is one of the specialized units that we are looking. The Miami Police Department coordinated the relocation of the Mounted stables to Tropi- cal Park this fiscal year under an agreement with the Metropolitan Dade County pending the construction of a permanent facility. Metropolitan Dade County Will design and construct a facility at Virginia Key in conjunction with the direction and approval of the City of Miami. Facility cost have been limited to $500,000. That is being provided by Metropolitan Dade County as part of a land swap agreement. The new facility is anticipated to include 24 stalls, feed rooms, officer's training areas, a paddock area, and storage room - due- to be completed by December of 1985, We won't make that. Minimum staff is nine mounted patrol people as of today. We go to 22, to the Special Police Units. This is our school units, walkingbeats, etc. The Special Police Units of the patrol section is responsible for the specialized deployment of beat officers who are assigned to deal with the unique needs of certain areas of the City of Miami. Beat officers are assigned to locations within the North, Central, Overtown and South districts. At the present time there are some 70 beat officers out there and eight sergeants, two lieutenants, one captain and one major. These areas cover Liberty City, Edison Center, Little River, Biscayne Boulevard, Decorator's Row, the Latin Garment District, Clemente Par}, Justice Building, Garment District, and the Omni, Qvzrtowh the Mani-atations and other beat locations such as Domino Park, Brickell, Downtown and Black Grove. Marine Patrol was re-established on March 1, 1962 in order' to provide the tignly specialized servioes needed by the City of Miami marine community,. The staffing for the marine patrol is eight police Officers and one sergeant. The marine patrol bad exceeded its fiscal year ''83r'84 acco- plishments in 184A'$5 in the areas of arrests, vessels towed to safety, veasel safety inopectians conducted. Public business contect,s are also made acd this unit was responsible for the dramatic rescue of three children and is also iavalved in the Federal B' ue Lightning Task F:r;;t, Goals and Qbjectivos we would like to to nPW to spars §A51 obiectives, and we only. slave Just & few minutes' and we will be _ le to open up for questions. Patrol S?rvices, basically., the sin thing here. the $bal and the objectivE of patrol are alb. measurable, We are 01P to LnQ44tpr tbese and `ell whether we are Ari4e frog, Sep sewper 9, 19d5 bads or indiffe"rent, As you car, see, to respond the call for service bs deploying an avetage of 10- marked Rohe units a day throughout the City= ihFit is iteasufable, To conduct a total of 6)000 directed patrol activities it, selected areas in the City of fi;ia(ai, That is i easurable, To field 45 beat officer: a d Y %n selected areas of the City: That is tnersufables There are several other objectives here that, we can &a back to if you wish to tare another look at the,:.. Ctifri hal lhvez tigatioh i v eJl ?nj how as it is called, Goal is t? identify and apj.res:end of'ehdei-s in a tifnely IDannef and to recover lost and stolen property. As was in Beat patrol Uniform Division, these goais Pot the Crimihal Investigators are also measurable objectives, To investigate all reported Murders with a clearance fate of 70% t to investigate all reported sexual batteries with a clearance rate of 50%; to investigate all assigtei robbery cases With a clearance rate of 50%1 aho so forth, Agains all M easura- b1e objective8a Special Investigations - the goal here is to provide a high level investigate ani intelligence analysis capability in firearm) 6rgar,,JLzed crime, terrorist activities, bomb, gambling, smuggling and narcotic violat I or, enforcement and subsequent ihvestigations. These goals and objectives are also measurable. To investigate 55cases involving high level snsgglr.6 , trafficking of illegal drugs, resulting in 120 arrests. These do not involve the kind of investigations that new street Unit is presently doing - these are of a higher level. The suppress illegal gambling activities by targeting 1U high level organizations, resulting in 60 arrests. These are other objectives as you can see. All the objectives here are in fact measurable, and they are measured. Traffic Enforcement - to reduce traffic accidents injuries and fatalities through vigorous enforcement of traffic laws. The goals and objectives here - the objectives again are measurable, and we do that on a regular basis. Calls for Service/Communications - the goal is to provide the citizens and the Department personnel with an adequate level of communication services and response to calls. As in all the others, these objectives are measurable objectives. We have gone over these and the accomplishments which we did meet last year. Crime Prevention - to increase the confidence of the citizenry in their Police Department and to better equip them for their protection by initiating cooperative efforts. Again, measurable objectives are here and according to the fiscal year that we just covered, we met them the last year and there is no reason to believe we will not do the same year the coming fiscal year. In -Service Training - as it relates to training, to provide specialized in-service training programs for departmental personnel, and that includes firearm training and officer stress assessment and resolu- tion courses for 105 officers within Region XIV, Dade and Monroe; conduct 40 cultural awareness courses for 420 Miami Police Officers. That is at the present time being done, as well; to conduct 1,500 hours of participation in the SME-33 simulation for 900 Department personnel and that can and is being accomplished. The 1984 Police Bond to implement safety programs/proposals approved by the voters in 1984 Police Bond Program, which involves the con- struction of the Liberty City North District Substation to be located at 1060 N. W. 62nd Street; construction of the Little Havana/South District Substation to be located at West Flagler Street and Beacom Boulevard. Anti -Crime Initia- tives, the goal here is to implement a multi -faceted major initiative to combat crime within the City of Miami. The objectives here in the Anti -crime Initiative are also all measurable. To reassign 10% of plainclothes investi- gators: to uniformed patrol and non active duty officers to administrative assignments; to hire 50 additional P.S.A.'s; to implement a patrol by objec- tives effectiveness measurement system; to re-emphasize the targeting of high crime areas for special enforcement by specialized crime suppression assign - meats; to explore further civilianization of police support functions. Budget and Position Summary - the Miami Police Department, FY '86 budget request is 5.9%, or 3.8 million over the FY '85, due primarily to increases in pension contributions, group insurance and workman's compensation. Almost 91% of the Miami Police Department's general and fund budget goes to personnel services. It includes salaries, wages, overtime, holiday pay, shift differential, motorcycle allowance, clothing allowance, contributions to social security, life retirement, group insurance, workman's compensation and tuition reim bursement. 9% goes to operating expenses, utilities, supplies, repairs and maintenance and so forth and the remainder 1/10th percent goes 'to new equip - Meat purcbases, T;le Miam:► Police Department has to make oontributions of over 3.5 million dollars to the City General Fund through the following revenue Pources - Dade County C:;,,:rt traffic violatiops, fines assessed by, the Court, Fees and N,#saes, off. duty .offrk�rs, alarm fees, pemits, traffic pormits, police eecorvo, witness feep and so fortis. Automobil? auFsious - sale of confiscated Property, auto pound ptara.gE, auction fees 4nd sales of oonf sge.ta ld 9 Septem'per 9, 1955 I ed property, unclaimed money, mohey obtained during drug ra:iist Our five yea: positiot, history of the Miami Police Department of five years is shown, here or, this chant 415 civiliahs, ioO6O swaft, and a total of 1 535 full tite employees reflect the addition ..: yes? INAiib BLE BACKOK'A Chief Di. xsct:: Posltiot, history of the Po ice DEturtmeht for five years is shown here = 4'f civilians, 1,'j6.: so;-)rt., and a total of 1 #535 full time employees reflect the addition of 15 hew public service aids in the far right hand corner of that $r;h. There are else 1 part time school crossit.g gaz:ds were added to this particular position► To wind down, Affirlative Actior, Status - at the end of Junes this year, the ethnic makeup of our foreign farce Was Shown, Over 62% were tAitori ties and women, as compared to 601 for the sake period last year. Our Affirmative Action, status as of June 30, 1'�c5, shows up there of civilians broken down into male, iihite# Black, H spani-, and others, female, White, 131acki Hispanic and others and or, the civilian portioll of the Po ice Department, 51% are minorities and women, While the totay Department is 70% minorities and women, Gentlemen, that concludes our present tation, and now I am open for questions. Mayor Perre; Chief, I've got a series of questions that I have written down here. Chief, without ... and I commend you for your presentation and the research that that has all taken. Let's talk layman`s language now. Let's just have a little open chat here. You have been Chief how long now? Chief Dickson: Since January. Mayor Ferre., January? We are now into September, so you have been there eight months, okay. Now, so your hundred days have come and gone and you are into the eight month period. Nowi Chief, what are the five good things that you have done in eight months what are the five important accomplishments that you feel that you have done - just give me five ... five things that you have concentrated on the first eight months that you feel that are looking good. Chief Dickson: Well, I didn't concentrate my budget or presentation oa that, so I will just have to go off the top of my head. Mayor Ferre: _ Of course! That is where I want it from. Chief Dickson: Well, Mayor, when I first assumed the, position, it was under a cloud of controversy and there were several things that needed to be done. I assumed the position under an interim City Manager who did not have the authority, or the power of that time to release me and say "Clarence, go ahead and do what you think is right". That, I would say, threw me back from doing some of those five things that you have just asked me about by about three to four months and so if we look at the five things, we would have to start by not looking at the total of the eight months that I was in office, but looking at maybe the last three months that I was in office. One of them is something that could easily go unnoticed and needed done real. bad, and that is real ... Mayor Ferre: het me interrupt you, because my next question is what are the five problem areas, so that as you go along this, you think along that. Chief Dickson: One of those things, I will start off by saying, was helping to bring about a better relationship in the Miami community and the Police Department in the City. We are getting a tremendous amount of public psrticir pation in the area of crime watch and communications coordination with the community_, I think that this community is behind its Police Department more than it has been in the past, and I do believe that that might be one of the reasons that reported crime is up is because citizens feel free to call us now and report crimes that in the past might not have been reported because they did not believe a sufficient response would be given on the part of the Police Department, so cooperation and communication with this community would be one of the measures. One of the other arras of accomplishment within the four month period that l would take credit for would be our effort to deploy our Police personnel this is something l did push and come up with) in single cars iAP tend Of the two man cars, The reason for this is because if we go{ as we did, from the two man eer to the one m4n car, we §lmost double our forces ld 10 PepteOer �# 19a� and we are ab e to cover here z.rnes than if we were it a tw,�i ttah car. 0. course, with the exception of sane zones that we requite that are called safety i6hes that we feel we should put two people in a car therer That would be two& 1 cannot say that I have done five things that I can pick off the tor; of tjy heaa that are hoteworthy but 1 can continue* I at riot finished yet. I believe i ^~: c . ..1::-`i �f) 6f the Miaiti Police Departitent is something that, in m) opinion, netts to be G_,L• f a 16bg time, and the reason for teorgahizing and establishing respohsiuiiiIlly and accountability, the teas-., for t.. iti b cau wF d . J:n f'e t, nave a young Police Def,arttieY,t, and we do have a Police Departftent that weeds closer supervision by top level personnel ana in order to accomplish this, we took the large and all:st all encompassing Operation Division and did what most departtsei,ts will ds:, and that is, we divided the Operations Division into the two things that they really are - a Uetec jLive Division and a Uniform Division, and this to:,k away the great amount of work distritutiou that was unevenly distributed and made it more evenly distributed where now we have a Uniform Division to deal with separately, and Detective Division to deal with separately, and that gust makes good common sense, that is helping and it is worKing. That is the next thing - the tealighnment of the Operations Division. There are several other kinds of accomplishments that I can say may have been residual effect of some of the Organitational changes in the Department, but a great deal of what had to be done and what needs to be done is still ahead of us and the fact is that we do have divisions to begin to deal with those things now, such as the civiliaftization, the Eleven Point Plan that is being put into effect, whict, include a modernistic approacch to the management, such as the policing by Objectives ... Mayor Ferre: Wait a minute. Let me interrupt this. Now we are getting into another area, which is to be achieved. Chief Dickson: To be achieved, and some of which now has already begun. Mayor Ferrer So, the first thing you mentioned now, is police by objectives. Chief Dickson: Yes. Mayor Ferre: Okay. Chief Dickson: Do you want me to continue, Mr. Mayor? Mayor Ferre: Well, the first one was police by objectives, and the second? Chief Dickson: The civilian study - civilianization study that we are doing now. It is not going to require a long drawn out period because we have basically done this study and now we are just going back to get out the bugs. Mayon Ferree To study or to implement? Chief Dickson: Well, we are ready for implementation at this time. Ma or Ferro• Third y Chief Dickson: Well, oh, you mean the new objectives? Mayor Ferre: Yes, you told me that you feel that you have achieve three things - better relationships between public and the police department, deployment of police in going into a single, rather than a double except in danger zones, and three, reorganize the Police Department, especially in the Operating Divisa.ons. Then you started going to what things you wanted to do and l hove as4od you to just outline, you know, two, three, ten, you tell me! What are the things you want to achieve now? Chief Dickson; Well, l just talked about the c v lianization, Mayor Ferre; Okay, police by ob-'ectives is one, Chief Dickson,• police by 0G0iectivvp .:. 144yPr Ferrel O?v &nization ie two. Wt4l is 0ree? 14 II ,Septexber,9, 19$5 HS Wlle'L' Dickson! Mirt May.)rj -1 have int1mduce-i at, Eleven. Point F-lanj and 1 w:jjj just prefer to stick to thati kayof Ferret Do we have a copy of that? Xt, Pere-:1-at I have a copy right hetes We tailed it to you, Mayor Pette! Have these beet tailed? Mt. Pereira! We would b_ sena�:ng It t-:you& Mayor Feftet they have been sent? Ylt-, Pereira! Cn Augu8t. 9th, Mayor terret is theft a copy? Mrs Pere�rat We are going to run gobe copies. Mayor Ferret Okay, well) Chief, I also asked you to name me five ptobleins that you think that you, at Police Chief) and/or the Departtent. has 6, Just tell me what your five more serious problems are, in your 6pih4LOn& Chief Dicksont Well, when we get the Eleven Point Plan) it will address eleven problems that we have, Fir. Mayor, but it you are asking what kind Of operational problems that we are having that might impact upon police worr., here is one, Mayor Perre: You are the boss man, Tell me what as you get up in the morning and you say "Okayq I've got to deal with the department of 1,500 people and you have crime statistics that are going up", what are your five problem areas that you need to deal with todayo this week, this year? Chief Dickson: One of them, Mr. Mayor, is ... for instance, we have been living with this for some time now ... I mentioned back in my budget presenta- tion Directed Patrol, and that seems to really go over everyone's head, but it is very simple. Mayor Ferret Direct Patrol? Chief Dickson: Directed Patrol. It is what I would term as approaching a scientific approach to deploying police personnel with projection of where, when, and how crime is going to occur and having people that will take care of it. That is important to us. Mayor Ferret Is that a problem or a goal? Chief Dickson: It is a problem. It is a goal, it is something that we are doing already, but we can't do it well because the City of Miami constantly had its Direct Patrol Program arrested because it something we have no control over and that is the number of special events that we have to pull these people off of to go off and handle the special events that we have many of during the year. Mayor Ferret Is that a problem, Directed Patrol? And the second one is Special Events? Chief Dickson; Special Events impact on Directed Patrol efforts by the police. I would like to huye enough pars -military, and that is somethine, F.S.A.'s or special trained park rangers, or whatever it might be to handle a great deal of these special events, leaving my police officers so they will be able to carry out the mission that management and the commanding officers feel that they should be doing and we had for almost 25Q9OQQ people coming in witb the two Qr4age Dowl situations today and tomorrow and on the weekendol over the last four days - 25Q,000 people coming into the City of Miami, Tnis drains our on duty ability to concentrate on crime and tv in areas where we wont to be, and if 1, in some way, coin..:' get sufficient personnel, p4ra- wilitary, 0,4,:aper t444 p;)4c@ offs-cera to bundle these kind of functionsq 1? �,, '965 i kt y Z S: N;ayor Ferre: tell, you are going into the soi'ltion now and we cams+. I Just want you to define for me what the problems are in out'. SImp:le little civilian, sentences, Chief Dickson: Ok. That's one of the problems, Mayor Fef^:=­: a Piave got it ii--wris Directive yatr^i spe'2al events, Vihat s your third problem? Chief Dickson: Yes, sit. The Mier problem is being able to get our police officers oih the street because of the lack •of sufficient cars and these are very basic and very simple situations+ We need for the maintenance peor3e, Mr. Coils shop to be able to turn out cars quicker than what they do already. Some of the other things that we need or that presents problems for us is, number one, as said was the spe_ial events. N-jinber two, the ability to get on the street to do some police work; and number thtee, to free up again, our police Officets who are inside doing administrative work to put them ofi the streets Also, I don't, Mr. Mayor, foresee any gigantic problems that we cannot handle, provided we are allowed to implement our eleven point plan. The eleven point plan address the existing problems and I don't see where any of them can't be resolved to a reasonable extend if we are allowed to iMple- ment that. Now, we don't have any great management problems, because they have been addressed through the realignment and through the new promotions that I have been able to make, There are no devastating management problems here. There are no devastating operational problems right now that is not already being addressed. There are some problems such as.,. There had been some rumors of problems, but again that is because of also... Mayor Ferre: I'm not interested in the rumor. That's speculation. I just want to know just want to know what in your mind are the problems, Well, now, Chief, let me... I have got one question and then I want to make a statement to you. One last question. And the last question is I see that operating expenses were eight million dollars last year and there is six million two sixty-seven proposed. That's a reduction of a million seven. That's a twenty-one point seven per cent operating expense reduction. Now, how can the operating expense reduction be that substantial? and what is it that you are cutting? If you say you have got problems of getting cars... lack of cars and cars'on the street, then how can you cut? Chief Dickson: Mr. Mayor, I didn't recommend the cutting of anything from the Police Department. That was done by Management and Budget and I guess they can answer that question. Mayor Ferre Well, nevertheless, it's here in the budget and position summary a reduction of operating expenses of a million seven... I mean, what is it, less gasoline or less cars or less equipment? What is it that's been cut twenty-one per cent? Chief Dickson: I think Mr. Mayor, it was less motor pool charges applied to the Police Department. Mayor Ferre: Isn't that what you just said was one of your problems? Chief Dickson: Well, no, sir. It' doesn't mean that we are getting less vehicles. It just mean that we are being charged less for the service we are receiving from vehicle maintenance. I do believe that's.., Mayor Ferro; Well, somebody hap to explain it to me because in any department when you cut operating expenses twenty-one point seven per cent,that is a drastic cut and I need to understand that. Mr. Monohar 3urana: If I may Mayor, excuse we. We have not out any operating expenses, What has occurred in internal service Fund we were able to ape some budget surpluses, Then require lower contribution from general fund, So, that'', why there is a reduction in terms of Mayor Ferro; N, well, that's a misleading state:uEnt then, You haven't ct the operaTioks bw vwoluty-Qne point,., Mr, '5vron$; No, we boy@ not cut xny expenses, VP 4I 3 eP ? ben 94 49e5 s, W ti 0 Maydf Vet re3 I see, Well, that needs to be clarified because that be a Flisundefstanding, Chiefs let ine (take a statement to you, As of June 30� 1935, Total index ctirnes were up eleven pet debt and property ctimes wete up foufteet, peg` cent, we have an increase in crifbe again this year in the first six rnouthe 69er last dear, Now, the fact that inutdets are down fifteen per ceht which is „ i and aggravated assaults are d an hike pet cent, but as I Understand the PTU statistics, wei so that they �: t `t gt g, mufdefs and thefts ► larceny is countei in the same weight as llurder, ever, though you and I khow that, you knows burglarized or fobbed, I would be father be burglarized and fobbed than mutdered, But from a statistical pol:it of view it all cones,,, Iti s one murder is one efime and one act of burglary is a crime and they are all reported statistically the same. That's correct, fight'? So, it seems to rue that if ylu look at the "statistics it says motor vehicle theft, an increase of twenty-seven per cent, Now, that seems to be ah alarming nurnberi you know, if some goes up five per cent or ten per cent you worry, but if you see a statistic that jumps out at you like that, I mean, there is Obviously,.., somebody must be,„ There must be an organized operation some where out there stealing cars, And then you see larceny. Larceny is going up from eleven thousand seven hundred to thirteen thousand four thirty --fours which is a fourteen per cent increase and burglary is going up from four thousand nine to five thousand two eighty-seven which it a seven per cent increase, Robberies also going up five per cent, That seems to be where crimes are occurring, They seem to be property rather than person crime which thank God for that. Now, based on that let me tell you this and I'm sure you have heard this before, but let me repeat it to you right. I used to run a fleet of almost a thousand trucks at one time and we were having a lot of 'maintenance down time and so I hired some big expert to come in from out of town and tell me... and he said you know, like most things most of the problems you can identify what causes the most problems and if you concentrate on solving that you can concentrate on solving the problem and the trucks that we had we had something called an "Allison Transmission" and we found that the allison transmission was having a particular problem. So, we realized that if we before the thing broke down increased the cycle of maintenance by doing that it would end up being... it would cost us ten per cent more, but we would avoid all the break downs and we would be saving substantial amounts of money. The point of all of that is that if you can identify where your problems are, I think you can if you concentrate on that rather than... the other alternative to the way we were managing trucks is whenever they broke down we would fix them. Now, what we did is we identified what the majority of the break downs where and we concentrate on preventing the breakdown and then we wouldn't have to go to the expense of fixing them. Now, where does crime occur in the City of Miami? Crime occurs mainly in the ghetto. Not totally, but mainly in the ghetto. The majority of crime is committed by kids from the age of fourteen to the age of twenty-one. Is that right? Or twenty-two or twenty-three or something in there. I mean, it's young people. Older people don't commit crime. I mean, people like Plummer here in his forties and people in forties and fifties don't commit that many. You don't see that many burglaries committed by... unless they are real pros. So, it's young people. We know that the victims, the majority of the victims in this community is Black. There are more people... If you look... If you had a racial breakdown on the twenty-seven thousand people that were victimized by crime in 1985 I guarantee you without even looking at it that more than half of the people that were victimized were Black. Now, half of the people in Miami aren't Black. Now, so, the question of crime watch becomes an important thing to me because we are never going to have enough police officers to prevent all of the criminal acts that occur. There is just no way to do it. I mean, you would have to have a Police Department with ten thousand people, We don't have that, We can't afford it and than we could go back to the old having a cop at every corner approach to life, but we are not going to do that. So, you need to get people motivated to become apart of the Police Department. Now, I think that's whst's being don@ in place;". I mean, this ion 't Miami, This is the same problem that Houston and Atlanta And ether cities have. Now, I think that and I. think it's very aigni ficant that you said as you achievement, the #1 achievement than you came up wii,h right away i•s betted' relationahipa between the public and the Miami Police Department. I think that' a correct and I think that that's an area that you really need to put a lot of er4piM is im, heeause if the mW ri V of the cr4wep in Miami art. being perpetrated in the black co=unity by kids, then I think it you deal with that issue, I think you hove 40Me very sperial p4lific4tione, becau.ee if you are experienced in background and who you are �l 14 9;@PteW1Pgr 9. 1985 0 and what yos are as Police Chief, that thin: that we can snake some major head Mays in the next few years if you were to concentrate on the prevention of Crime by the liotivation Of people in the Codd-anity $o tfutt the Police bepaftment and help the Police yeparttuent and deal with it+ Nor, that's alreadb' hap erring# you know. We like t6 take all the dredit for the Cleating up of 1=95 and th , 5,v ern:.r 9,es t oui+ : taKitig a little of that credit, but you know# it was keverend Stevet,son and two hundred hundred fiftyaf6ur preach- ets if 1 remerbbef the hewspal,-?r story that went out it,** o their pulpits and they just hammered away at this. The,. said "We are being victimized. We are the people that are getting hurt6 You know# White people are getting.+. We are the people that ate suffering this and we have got now to take Cate of our own► We have got to deal with this issue". And sure enough there has been some aubst&ntial..# and it's tragic, I'm awfully sorry to see that we ate apprehending fifteen and sixteen year old kids. And it really is a sad th ng, Now# I cote: to the second poitit. We have serious social problems, I Under- stand that and S understand that we in the City of Miami can't scive the problems of broken homes and the school system and lack of jobs and lack of opportunity and that's society's responsibility as a whole, but I will tell you what 1 think we can deal with. I think we need to spend some money. We got all kinds of computers now and every time I go to see Wait Roy he tells me that we are number one in the nation and people are coming from tiftbuktu to look at our Burroughs operation and Burroughs uses us a referral point because we have got the best computer system in the world and this and that and we are spending..6 if you will look at the budget it ought to be the best, because we are spending a lot of money on a percentage of total budget for computers and computer operations. - NOw, it seems to me that if we have a population of four hundred three thousand people in Miami even though it's only three hundred eighty-seven thousand officially recognized by the federal government. You know, there is no big secret as to what the population make up is in Miami. I'm pretty such that all the statisticians and computer experts can give you a run down on crime and just off of the top of my head you and I and your top staff could pretty well tell you what the conclusion is. The conclusion in my opinion is that out of four hundred thousand people in this town three hundred thousand of them are not a problem and there is probably a hundred thousand people who if you would look where the victims are and who is perpetrating the crime you can pretty well pin down areas. There are probably between the criminal element in Little Havana, Coconut Grove, Overtown and Liberty City probably two or three thousand criminals out there that are creating most of those problems. Of the two or three thousand criminals out there is probably about two or three hundred that are the real trouble makers. I think you have to be careful now with ACLU and civil liberty problems and all this, but you know society has rights too, and I don't think that we need to violate individual civil rights of persons, but people who commit crime three and four and five times we ought to kind of keep an eye. I'm not recommending a police stake or that we keep everybody under surveilance, but I am saying that we ought to keep a clear record of who are the people that are committing the crimes in this city on a repeat basis and I think we ought to really try to work with the criminal justice system so that these first offenders or these kids that are fourteen to fifteen years old that are beginning their sad march to Hayford that we really spend some time and effort and money even if the City of Miami Police Department has to use part of its budget in that to try to see if we can get these kids off in positive program and may be we can get some social workers to help them to get them if not back into school in to vocational `raining. You know, let me tell you some I have got an aunt who operates a poverty program in Puerto Rico. She is a nun. She used to Work with the Puerto Rican and the Black communi- ties in Brooklyn and she has won just about every award from the Rockafellar Award on down from running poverty programs and she is now... she has got is major award now to write all these things down and most of the.., and The bottom line of how she does is she goes into a community and she identifies leadership among these kids and usually the people she identifies are guys that have been in jail, drug pushers, gang leaders, people that have murder records and whst have you. Those are the people that end up being the leaders in communities and they end up .., perhaps if we can some how wark with the State or with other agencies around here., there is a pattern that I thiai; has been auccessfully used iu other cities 'Such as Atlanta and Houston that I think we need to look at and that is the identification of where tits proolem AMP ure. The of who the problem people are 40 tie targeting of working with those people to sea if tie ce4 help them :get out of the cycle of crime and slso to koep an eye on them. l don't know how el Se to put il, gl 15 September $, 19�i5 VON E You know, it's a very cofn�lex process, you heed to get crime watchs4i We at'5 not reinventing the wheels It isn't sobethiftg that I'm sayi-ng that hasn't been done any where else, it is being done in American cities thfoughout this Couhtty, Lot Angeles has had a Ptogtat like this, you know that. Atlanta hag had a ptogtaftt like thiS6 H6ugtbh has Pt6gPa1btt Ndwo 1'fa not saying let's be the first ones ii, ktiell-Ic-a to do this, 1 at "saying let us f5ilow the pattern ofother sun:essflal pztlic� departc�,tts, espec-Alallt wheh we Mve gotten Black Police Chiefs in Atlahta a6d ih Ir-all'ni; wtr. problemst I'm hot sayA`.hg ghythifig that Reverend SteveLstm hasn't said already and that the preachers in the comhunity are rizvt sayming. Now, you are saying patrol by objectives anal that dealing police work by objective, Welli I subtait to you that y,oar objective out to be in my opinion the clear cut defititiorA of what the ptot­-LeM areas ate& Where they are. Who they are. And then I thihk it's easier to get on With dealing in finding solutions rather that, sitting back and waiting for the cLrirte to occur agaihi for the next tugging or the next rape or the next murder so We can send a patrol out with a one man car and make sure that we get ninety per cent answers and that the calls and so on and so forth, ljowo again, the bottom line is that We take a little bit of our own destiny into our own hands and try to deal with the problet on a very positive con- structive basis rather on a reactive basis. Now, there is one thing that -1 would like since you are coming back tomorrow. I Would like to knows,, 1 have been asking for these figures now for three months, 1 would like to know the arrests that have been made in the City of Xiami in 1963, 1984 and I would like for you to break it down on a six month basis so that 1 can Bee the first six months of 1985 and I Would like it also as compared to on a per Officer basis. And 1 would like also to have the state and national statistics. Let me tell you what I'm specifically after. I have heard that the City of Miami arrest record is fifteen per cent above the national averages the average of cities over a hundred thousand which is very significant. I would liKe to know whether we have been decreasing in arrests which I also have heard the rumor that we are decreasing in arrests and if we are decreasing in arrests per officers I would like to know why and what's going to be done about it. Or are we going through a more realistic arrest record. Were we too high? Was the burden too much on the police officers before? Or was that fifteen per cent above average justifiable. How does that compare with Orlando. How does that compare to Tampa and Jacksonville? That's one question that I have. Secondly, I would like to know what your clearance have been. I Bee your goals ' , you says** In your goals you are saying that you want a... I will read them to you. This is clearance rates, you are talking about you want to clear... some where in here you have to got all this. Here it is. You want to... Objectives. Ok. You want to go to... here it is. "Sexually batteries, clearance rate fifty per cent. Robbery, clearance rate of fifty per cent. Auto theft, clearance rate of sixty per cent. Part One. Batteries and assault current rate of seventy per cent. Now, those are you criminal inves- tigation goals, but I would like to know what they are now, because you had these same goals last year. Did we meet those goals? Well, see I need to know what is the clearance rate for murder and what is the clearance rate for robbery and what is the clearance rateese are we meeting last years goals? How far off are we. What are we? How many of these auto thefts are we solving? We are not solving any where near seventy per cent. So, that's the second series of questions that I have on your clearance rate. I got two more comments to make to you. One and please don't misunderstand. The press is here. I want to make sure that we don't misunderstand my intention. It isn't that I'm against a boat patrol or that narcotics are not important or that going after the Cosa Nostra is not an important thine for us to be doing and the racks and racketeering and all that, but you know, the average guy that Miller Dawkins and Maurice Ferre have to deal with when we go out walking around this town, what they want to know is the kind of stuff I don't hear anything about, well, I got murdered or my son got murdered or you know, what's this about an organized king pin being in Miami that moved down from Union city who is now in charge of the Bolita Operations. I don't hear that kind of complaint. What people are telling me is you know, damm it, last, week in my block there were two people that were burglarized and I can't walk out on the street because I don't feel safe. Or do you know that my cousin waste, there was an 48gravated assault or there was an incident of lar;eay or vometbin$.., you know, that's what people are worried about., They are worried about corg be}rig gtoieu and when you get 4 seven in y . - per cent incre s oaris b@ira s!-Pleu I think th4t'op an emergency, That's 4 crisis that 1 'think we Upod to dell with, The 140t thing i want to pay was special events, You opo 9t p .4nbother you m4dip o , 4tpment to me and 1 wen L an t into 1py bran and it,' p bean 61 16 pvpvember 94 1905 a ing me for the last couple of i6ant ls, The Manager is the guy who made the statedient to 1hea He said you know, we do more special events than any other city accept Washington 'M , I said you have got to be kidding. He said not He says the Chief, 6, the Police Department has given to all this infottation that we d,,: I said Sergio that can't be true as compated to cities like flew York, Chicat;_: at d Las Ahgv: es. C,tiWe c.Y, 4 teak these are cities: ►. metr6p6l= itah areas of twenty Jti liotl peupie in New YorA. Lor,' t tell the that we do More spe:al events than New York. But the point is this, the police depart= meat in New York h5z forty, for �usgltd ot fifty thousand police officers. We have gbt a thousand, flow, I'm not for consolidation and I have been and I am against its because I think.►4 but on the other hand, you know, if there are events like these two concerts, I will guarantee you Tight now that t otl more than twebty pet, cent of the people in that stadium tonight and tomorrow are Miattiahs. That eighty per cent of the people that are►.& they are cotLing in from Fort Lauderdale: They are coming in from Palm Beach... They are coming in... you know, now, yes we are making money. I understand. We are making some money on it and that kind of justifies it and I'm not coMplaihing about it. I'm happy. I would like to... I think it's great that we are havirig these events there, but some how, some way we need to get some funding for these special events or, the sharing of the expense with Others. -I don't know what the answer is. I'm not coming up with an answer. Kline is a question. If special events is costing us as touch as it seems to be costing us, thee, we need to find ways in which we can ear mark specific monies or somehow make an extra buck on it. So, that the bottom line... and I don't want to take away the work from our police officers. I think they like the idea of that special duty and 1 want theta to have it: I want those guys to make those extra bucks, but somehow we have got to figure out a plan of attack so that these special events can carry themselves or we have a special task force or we have a mixture of fifty fifty between police officers and public aides or we go out to outside agencies. There has got to be some way that we can deal with this in a... and I want to point out to you that it's the number two problem that you made. You said directive patrol was number one, special events is number two problem that you identified. Those are my comments Chief. Thank you. Mr. Dawkins: Mr. Manager. Mr. Pereira: Yes, sir. Mr. Dawkins: I have questions that I need answers to, not anything else and... Chief Dickson: Mayor, while they are discussing something here. We will go over this tomorrow, but I can answer some of you questions now in reference to the national average. Mayor Ferre: Well, it's somebody else's turn. I don't want to hog this whole meeting. So,. Mr. Dawkins: Well, I mean, it may dove tail into what the Mayor said. The people that we run into out there while we are campaigning they give less than a dawn about what's happening on 1-95• The want to be able to sleep safely up under I-95 and that's our problem. So, what I need for you to tell me is --- and I have asked for this and I cannot get it Chief. So, may be you and the Manager can get it for me. I here you said dispatched.., computer aided dispatched incidents of field unit^-- this is on page 205---within the estab- lished time criteria. i.e., priority three minute dispatch, priority four within five minutes, priority five within a half an hour and priority six within an hour. Tell me what these priorities are. Teri one how many patrol cars you have in a zone. Let me know how many miles each officer has logged patrolling because I don t see them coming by my house with nothing but to lock that gate up or put some people in 'jail for drugs across the streets. I hava yet to see a police officer in the zone where I live patrolling 51st Stroot, 5�rd Street, 54th Street and I want to know bow many hours they logazd riding around and where they were. All right, they other thing l need the answer to io, it says here you screened ... still on page 205---you screened six hundred forty-foar applicants for positions wthin the Police pepartment and you acceptpO fifty-Qhe, Now, I waut to ecnow what the others were turned down for and what's the high rate of turning them dawn. Now much it cost to screen toep "d how much wavy we lost by ecrzeni:ng pis hundred i'orVy-fP ur applicants and only hiring i'i#'youe he next one under there you said yourevraeo e $i 97 5eptzt4her 94 19155 ■ Ei A hundred twebty=five youth in athletic activities and you told be who hired them and I will be J. to y' s �. pu�tuier a soda without even oo�t�hg at t, The faajority of thefa were hired by Monty Ti-aiherg i don`t even have to guess' about it, but let be khow what they were hired doing: How long they stayed on the,,.Se_, do It tell rhe ab-but you hired fifteen y6ungsters4 Tell me how long they stayed on the job aL, hap,--hey4 liot, gatting down to the second one from the bottom, I wah this in wfiting Mr. Manager, please, t doL t heed no verbalization: Ok, iecaute you gat it written here, The hetct one is getting back to what the Mayor says and I don't understand it, You Addbtplished a fifty per cent clearance rate for robberies+ What do you bean by fifty pet" cent clearance? Of the fifty per cent cleafahces how mahy arrest did we make, Of those arrested# how many of them stayel in jail and how % ahy were releasei and rearrested. Rio, no, I don't want it by tot6kf6w, I Waitt it in writing, Wello what,,a where is Samit Roy? How much are we putting in co;tpaters? Twenty million dollars M r, Pereira, Rio, that.,, some of the information in your last question as information that the State, you known keeps, Al aft I correct on that? IJ?I DENTIFIED SPEAKER! Yes. Mr. Pereira: We can give you a number of arrests and so on an so forth, but now in terms of on the people who come back we might be able to do that, but how long they stayed in jail, that becomes.., Mr.* Dawkins: Well, then you tell me in your memo I can get this for you Commission Dawkins, but you can go to Janet Reno or you can go here and get and I will go there and get it. Ok. I have no problems with going..v even if it's to Governor Graham, because he is running and he has to do something to win this area. Ok. The other page. What is thirty child abuse presenta- tions? What is that. And how does that impact on our providing police protection on Spittle Haiti? Chief Dickson:Commissioner Dawkins, that applies to an area in this commun.- ty that has a problem with child abuse. It was the Haitian community who's culture is different and they... we did go in there and tried to educate the small Haitian community in ways of preventing child abuse and that was from talking with them. Mr. Dawkins: Ok. Chief, I don't know nothing about child abuse. My daddy beat me with an ironing cord and if the police had come in there, he would have beat the same police with the same ironing cord. Ok. I have never been to jail yet. I will go because that's my jail if I pay taxes on it. I have no problem with going to jail, but... Now, we can't go out there... I mean, in Little Haiti you got ---coming back to what the Mayor said... Mr. Mayor, how many fourteen year old Haitians commit crime? Very few. So, it's got to be something to what they are doing. Now, you can call it child abuse. You con call it child anything you want, but they got child control and we have no business out there trying to teach those people how to let their children come up to be hoods and rob and steal people. Now, what... just let me know what you did when you went out there and who you accomplished it and what for. i can ... I hear what you are saying. See, these social agencies they think something because this guy beat his son's behind that he abused him. Ok. But if you are feeding and clothing one and you can't control him and nobody don't want you to control him, then; damn it take him out my house. The other one is you identified fifty seven gang members Mr. Manager, and you referred them to alternate productive activities. Let me know what that was and how long they stayed in it. I got one more here for you. To respond to --.this is page 213=-- to respond to calls for service by deploying an average of a hundred seven marked zoned units a day throughout the City. Let me know the zones. The number of care in the zones. The number of miles logged by each officor 1n that zone and the total number of miles logged for the unit... l mean for the... whatever his tour was and give it to ue for a twebty-four hour day. You field forty-five beau officers s day in selected areas. What does that mean Chief? You can tel1 me that. Best officers. Chief Pickspn; bvat officers are sbo people who are on foot or assigned to epecial bests Downspwu, Liberty City," Coconut Grove. 41 46 P#,pV@%ber 9, 4955 Irf, Dawkins: Oki mhat4s about all I have other than.r; these are the ques- tions that I have and I need answers and I don+t heed then toitaftow& Ahd those that you can't answetj just tell lfae you can't answer the,it and I will go to the Ooverhor or to .Tahet Reno or whottevet$ but s have to agree in total with the Mayor. The pf"oblefa is youth, but it's Schooling and from gc-hbblih it goes t uhettt byit,er,j. We cbhhot put peol,le to work who cannot read; write and conpute, than!-. you: — Chief D CKSC•L; Thank you, Yjr. CohitiLssionef. Mrs Pluftiter: Chief, let aye say s6mething to you, because you and I have had some discussiohs before. 'his budget which you preset this year is the same old budget we have had every year which scares the that means we are going to have the sat5e results and nobody is happy with them. Let me get to a p-oirt which I will get to dater not in budget. As I recall vie have this year because OP the change in petlsiont at I recall we have a potential of a hundre.i fifty -dine police officers that are going to be leaving. Is that correct? It's in the ball park that will now be eligible to "retire. Chief Dickson: Yes, that sounds... (BA'C=110UND C01VIM OFF THE PUBLIC RECORD), Mr. Plunmer: Ok. Welli but I mean they are eligible under the new rule change. Let me make a suggestion which I want to pursue later, You talk about a cadre of people to work special events, you are paying off duty or overtime for it. I think that that would be an excellent source of hiring these people back for special events that they might be interested in it. I can't answer that, may be not. But I think that they already have the train- ing. They are familiar with all of our procedures. Y think that you got the possibility of having a special unit of a hundred fifty who are retired who are still active, who still are looking for other income and I think that will go a long way towards it. Ok. I think it's within the purview of this administration to do such a thing, at least examine it. Chief, tell me how many civilians are you proposing in this budget to hire over last year? Chief, Dickson: At the present time it's fifty P.S.A.s'. Mr. Plummer: No, civilians. We will get the P.S.A.s' another thing. Chief Dickson: There are none, Mr. Plummer: So, that means that in effect, we are not going to be replacing police officers with civilians. Chief Dickson: No, sir. Mr. Plummer: Well, how are you going to do it? Chief Dickson; Public service aide is what we are going to use. Mr. Plummer: I'm not talking about public service aides. They are basically out on the streets where they should be, hopefully. Now, I'm saying for example, ;eta use the one that I picked on before. The robbery... the alarm ordinance . Ok. You have got four policemen in there, if you are not hiring any additional civilians, for all practical purposes those four are going to stay there. Excuse me. Chief Dickson: They would be replaced by public service aides. Mr. Plummer; Public services aides are usually under twenty-one years of age. Is that correct? Chief Dickson: Yes, Mr, Plum__II1er They are inexperienced in the ways of admini.str4t on, office <; 4u8 emeut and things ai' t:is n&turr, Chief, YOU explained to me That the tots? cost Of s P•S.A: is-ebput twenty-five thous$4d doll4re. A lot of people in thie town: are not working for twenty_#'ive thousand dollars. i know of a }„ lot of people in this town Kho bove great bse#grousds and experience that ere Septzt4ber 90 1905 IL L.. J over twenty=one years of age who would love to be making twenty-five thousand dollars a year& Now, !'it saying to you as I said to you before, I m going tD do you a favors I'm going to vote against your budget, I tell you that& l't going to vote agailist any budget that doesb' t _ have at least a hundf ed fill' ty p q n e r- ._ a n c Nowi 1 am ho genius and L don' t a.r7t. aS a,.j 8i i_89' a il:l;.Q.E:u i;iV�li...1.'. think it takes a gehiub, L j* _ + _11 guurallYee you that if tiit chips were clown and I said to you Chief, the only way you are going to stay Chief is 1 want a hundred tha'. s`jtiOlii r-%i __. street, bu ia ' going to give you the resources 11.rt cl, ,Bans to do the ,lob, you could do it tomorrow morning. nowt I'm telling you you got uLtil the ,st of October~ because that's when the final budget will be adopted, hopefully& I just am a firm believer that aaa well~ I want you.&a let me do it another ways I wart you to come back with a list of all of the swore personnel who are not per or�irlg Police dut.__ r,4. in your priorities tell me how you would start at the top to the bottom of putting out art additional hundred Policemen on the street doing pollee sworn duties that are required, We know what the P, SaA&s do wit:, traffic. we kt*,ow what they are doing inn other areas, I have got to believe &.. espee 'Lally, your rate now is .what, sixteen to one for every sixtee.1i you interview, you put one in school, It's abot that, sixteen to one? Or. I'm just saying to you that the availability of getting a sworn officer or, the street is not only expensive, but it's becoming damn near impossible. we have got to get the men that we have out there and get them out of the station of doing paper work. You know it. You know it, but you have got to do it with civilians can fill those jobs and you know, he is talking about gangs, We are looking at gangs now, I mean, there is two that you are well aware of, one of them, out there off of Southwest 8th Street and 35th Avenue the situation is becoming unbearable. Yes, in those project houses out there. And I will bring to your attention another one very quickly because it is... every night it's getting worst and that's on 3rd Street and 8th Avenue. They are really starting to create problems Southwest. But I'm saying to you is 1 can't accept a budget that is the same old budget and that's what we have got, because we are going to get the same old problems with the same old results. I think it is high time that we have got to do some implementation to do some new and innovative things. I say it's very important and without it.. Chief Dickson: Thank you, Mr. Plummer. Mr. Plummer; Mr. Manager, let me... one of the things that I remember from a couple of years ago, that was prior to your being here.- The Chief brought out the fact that we were having a problem with vehicles. About two years ago the thing got so bad that we went to outside maintenance, especially, in the area of body work where they were having a slow down where cars were two, three and four months off of the street. Are you considering anything like that at the present time? Mr. Pereira: Yes, we are looking at the privatezation, that's what we call it. Mr. Plummer Well, I want to tell you, the cars that our policemen are driving today whether it's their fault or someone else, they are deplorable. They look like hell. Now, if they look like hell that means they are going to drive the same way. Now, shouldn't we be looking as a Commission into the area of Building and Vehicle Maintenance? Is there a problem there? Do we need to address the problem? Mr. Pereira: Hopefully, very soon I will be bringing something to you on the whole issue of vehicle maintenance and you know, cost... Mr. Plummer; Are we going to do it inn this budget hearing? Mr, Pereira; No, we will be doing it,,, you know, it's something that takes o little longer than within the time frame we have now, l will be coming back to you with that after the budget hearing, Mayor Ferri, You see, Sergio, the Problem is that you get your beat once 444 a from from a newspaper stories or from a member of the Oommispion or somebody getting upset, 11ut, X+i4Per paver:ins, see he gets his heat like I get my heat When l go up for re-election and then l get it everyasy and l got to answer to people who Make h decision When they vote. All he needs is the vats of one person and oil you need is the vote of three persons; hopefully five, but, g2 ?0 SepTe;nb@T 9, 9i� 5 three: need m-Dre than three votes► sees and Dawkins needs more than three votes and I guess it's ca led:.r some people call it politics, otheir pegle call it detocracy, but whatever you _want to call it it's the American system. And the American system is that I have got to go and answer to people or Uawr.ibs ht:.. t*.` t to go answer to pe:^ c le as td►: i and this is one of the opporak tunities under we have in dealing with this. And the problem is—a:id Dawkins can coftez: L me or he can add of change, he--ause I'm sure he gets the sate flack that I gets—wher, 1 go out get this "I doli't fie- safY- M,r n�lghbarhood there are muggifigs+ I don't think the Police Department is doing a good job, i mesh, that's dust the average citizen type a of person making a statement. They don't Say 'm afraid I'm going to burn down in my house. I don't heat that. The other thing I hear is "These parks are filthy dirty and I can't..i and we are not hapry with our parts. Then I heat this Kind of a statement. "The streets are ditty". My garbage is being picked up and my neighborhood is just filthy — dirty,. Then I get the r.itid of complaint against zoning which you have nothing directly to do with, because that's what we vote on. You guys are.., if you XeeF on going that way there is just no control and Coconut Grove is going tt) look like Downtown Miami or what... why do you want to put anott,,er prison in Liberty City or why do you always want to dump all these halfway homes on the Northeast part of Miami. When are you going to enforce the zoning regulations there is a Violation... people are violating,,, that's the kind of stuff I get. I get Ms. Eunice Liberty for her to tell me "I have been calling you and Miller for the last two years and they still have cleared up my lot Now, you say well... So, you know, people have four or five beefs in this town. Ok. And they are always the same old beefs and we got to answer them, you know, I got to get up there before a debate format at ... and I'm going to tell you something, because there is no question that Victor De Yurre is going to be asking Miller Dawkins the very same questions that Xavier Suarez is asking me. Ok. In front of the public and I have got to answer it in a debate format. Well, why is crime up? Why is crime up eleven per cent? What are you doing about it? What am I going to say. Am I going to say that... Wello look, let me explain it to you. See, I don't have anything to do with the Police Department, because I don't tell the Chief what to do. The Manager tells the Chief what to do and then the Chief has a department and the budget... and the only time I have a chance to deal with this issue is during budget time and by that time nobody is paying any more attention. So, they say yes, but you are the Mayor and you get up before a television camera and you worry about I-95, why don't you worry a little bit about what's going on in Overtown. Whydon't you put the same emphasis... I can't give the Chief that order. Well, you seem to have put emphasis on I-95, why don't you do the same thing for little Havana, you know, and clear up... how about that area I go the other day and I meet with some people in the community and they say "well, you know, isn't it strange that from the expressway, from 36th Street expressway up to 54th Street from 17th Avenue for about ten blocks is you can go there and get drugs and that's the drug center of Miami now Anybody... they have got all these little kids and I have driven through and you see all these little kids they are all look outs, you know. No, I mean there a ' hundred little kids, teenagers ten, twelve years old in the corners and you know what they are doing. They are looking out and if you have stoppeo your car, one them says "Hey, you need anything today? I mean, and isn't... It's White people and Slack people. And so I go and I say let's go over... let's cross over, three blocks over or ten blocks over to the County. Nothing. Now, why are they in the City and why aren't they in the County. Now, I got to answer that ,question people are asking me. How come if you work in those twenty squctre blocks in the City of Miami, the look out Kids are there. Go there yourself,' drive, you can get into a non -official car and drive. You know what's going on. Why is it going on in the City and not in the County? I got to answer that question Chief, I got to answer that question and you know, and eventually, it's got to.,, the process eventually does trickle down to you and it does trickle down to the Manager, because you see I'm being he;d accountable and you know damn well that I'm going to paas the puck because I'm going to hold somebody else accountable for it, because that's the way this system works. I'm nit going to Lake this heat. Dawkins isn't going to tAke this heat s ang ;bled he has to auOver thht jU,gt lime OpI to answer it, YJu say that we have a Iack of cars,, weir you know, the press is here they arc obviously, $QiT.j; to reps = . Vnwt . They are t; ,ira t ouy "Tne FP�, e ;.h zi says th&t he w4s sbie only to ideulify three problems that he has. one is airec= tive pavroi. The other ,oAe is epecial events and the other one is ihet he neede Outpmobiie or equipment and here wa are spending seventY million dollars Ae or whatever it is afid we have a pr:�blera with you don't have enough carst those - it We need to deal with that: Chief Dicksoh4 Mk, Mayr, I thiiik it's important for me to say that 1 was able to 1..,..`.:ry mire than three probieris, what , said was that the problems that we hav_ ids_:.: lied ar•_ be .; redsPd ill the eleven point plan already and those were some that 1 threw on top of tht ':,Later Mayor kedge: CFiief, I dvl+ t waat to embarrass you, Chief Dickson: I m not embarrassed f`irt ;rayt,r; but i just... i warlte to sure because since the press is here I want to stake that clear that the eievei. point plan addresses the problems eleven of theta, but the other three a3 rtss the plans.►, Mayor Ferre: Of the eleven point.., is the eleven point plan impotant Ctlef? Chief Dize.sX,: Sir? Mayor Ferret. Is the eleven point plan important to you. Chief Dickson: Yes; sir. Mayor Ferret. It's important to the Police Department. Chief Dickson: Yes, sir. Mayor Ferrer Well, you ought to know that by memory Chief. You out to have those things where you can go off like that. We don't need to get a memoran- duel for eleven points. I mean, you know, l didn't mean to embarrass you, but you pushed me to it and I'm going to tell you. You need to have those facts in your mind. I mean, chiseled in your mind. You need to know exactly what the problems are in the Police Department.? ------- --- ------------------------------------------------------------- 2. AMENDPOLICEDEPARTUNT 85-86 BUDGET TO ACQJIPX 50 ADDITIOEAL POLICE PATROL CARS. --------------------------------------------------- ---------------- ----- --- Mr. Pereira: Mr. Mayor, one thing I will ask for the Chief to make the clarification because I don't want the impression to be given that there are no cars out there and there is not an orderly replacement process that we go through in terms of the equipment which is, you know, is there. I think it was just a... you know, the issue with the equipment and the maintenance of the equipment ,and if, you know, it's just more complex than just saying that you know, we have a equipment maintenance problem and I believe it's because of the way the shifts are set up right now that they are...you know, the cars are being utilized more than, you know, that even the maintenance schedule calls for so on and so forth. so, it's not a question that we are not ad- dressing it and that we are, you know, Chief and you can correct me if I'm wrong. It's a question that you know, that they are being utilized and you know, they are replaced. so, 1 don't want, you know, the members of the media who are here, you know, the headlines to read "Tne City of Miami Police Department has no equipment" because that's not... Mr. Plummer; well, let's answer the problem. Chief, how many cars you need? Chief Dickson; About.,o well, not to be apecific... Kr. Plummer; Fat pl I 'm aaauming, how many cars you need, Chief Hickson; We oould use from forty=aeven tQ fifly cars, mayor Ferro; Additional? Chief P ckp og; We were riling for thirty-opveA 444itio441 csrs, ?? SzplelgWr 94 19b 0 Mt, Plummeft. How fnany are ih this budget, i`m assuming Chiefs you are Speaking to patfolt Chief ticksz:n: Yes► sifs Mr, Plummer: Ok. How ashy additional vehicles a:, y�- 11�•Ve in this budget mm Chief Dickson: Nr, Plummer: And how many do you need? Mr, Pereira! Not hot they are on Eddie Cox's,.. Mr, Plummer; Ok. Wait a minute. He says none+ There is no additional cats, how mahy do you need? Mayor Ferre: Well, wait a minute. He is wrong about that, because you just heard,.. Mr. Pereira: There is a replacement process..* you know.,► Chief Dickson: Replacement Vehicles. The additional cars.,, Mr, Plummer: He need additional cars. He understood. You didn't, how many additional cars do you need? Chief Dickson: Well, we need as my last count was thirty-seven cars. Mr. Plummer; And you said up to fifty. That's for patrol? Chief Dickson: Well, I will be reasonable and just say thirty-seven. Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I make a motion at this time that this budget be adjusted to increase by fifty additional patrol. cars. Mayor Ferre: Thirty-seven. Mr. Plummer: I'm saying fifty. By the time you get them, you are going to need fifty. I will make such a motion. Mr. Dawkins: I will second the motion in that that money be found within the present budget somewhere. Mayor Ferre: Well, I wish you. I will vote with you if you add this caveat, { fifty or whatever the Chief feels is the appropriate amount. Mr. Plummer: That's fine. Mayor Ferre: Let's put the burden on him. Ok. So, cast the unanimous vote on three of us supporting the Chief's position. The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plutamer, who moved its adoption; w; MOTION NO. 85-561 A MOTION DIRECTINa THE, CITY MANAGER TO HAVE THE PROPOSED FY 85-54 POLICE PEPARTMENT BUDGET AMENDED TO REFLECT THE ACQUISITION OF APPROXIMATELY FIFTY 00) :. ADDITIONAL POLICE PATROL CARS; FURTHER STIPULATING THE CHIEF OF POLICE WOULD RAVE ULTIMATE RESPONSIBILITY IN DETERMINING TKF EXhCT NUMBER OF CARS TO 8E ACQUIRED. Upon being seconded by Commissiot?Qr Daw inR, trAz rotio way ,Passed aid adopted by the fi?IIoV�46 vote-, AYES; CQ issi4 eF ills J. D W�jns M E zq SePte�►t<p' a� Commissioner Js L. P uWner; Jr. Mayor kaufice A. Ferre NOES: None, ABSENT: Co= ssinijef Denetrio J= Peret� Jrx Yice*May ,r dot C3rL,.Iio x.a�xsza.ma:trrr.vx:�zts��zz_zsmz:rsaszsxz_zsanxaxzsrsaczzzzsa:zta azmramsxassmxsmr.sxz�si 3. AMEND POLICE DEPARTMENT 35-86 BUDGE TJ INCREASE 30 P.S.A.'8 B I11"aINi—J TOIA. NUMBER OF P.S..A. S TO 150; AND CONTINUE) DISCUSSION OF POLICE DEPAn �,-EN BUDGET ► xzan+mxzzzxa.�.zzxmxxaxG�s.xzmzzsczxrx.rrnza..m�xzrtzx�szar.a:nriaazx�tez�sycz�¢.xis,zxaar�s.z Mrs Dawkins I don't think... either somebody is not hearing uS or sz—aebod don't know, but what the Mayor is saying is when we go out there Eunice Liberty is going to get up and ask why and the hell is it that only da:^it,g election time my streets get clean and I only get the police protection that's required and Anna Marie Adker is going to get up and say the same thing in 0vertown, Mrs. Bentley and Ms. Armbruster is going to say the same thing in Coconut Grove and I for one, I have ridden with the police. J. L. Plummer and I have gone down 60th Street ---the same street the Mayor is talking about and nothing looks more like an official police car than J. L. Plumm er's car, not to be a police car and they ran right up their to sell us drugs, but you only find that on Grand Avenue and 60th Street. Now, why is it and I'm being asked this. Why is it that it is not on Key Biscayne? Why is it that it's not in Flagami? Why is it that it, is not on Biscayne Boulevard? Mayor Ferre: No,in Liberty City five blocks away from 60th when once you cross over the County there is no drugs. Mr. Dawkins: Ok. Now, you have got Drew Junior High School, you have got - Drew Elementary School, the City of Miami line runs through the middle of Drew Elementary school and as the man says, on 17th to 12th you got all the drug activity you want. From 17th West to 22nd Avenue you have none. Now, some kind of a way we need to put some pressure on somebody and make them get across 17th Avenue. Now, but it's not Chief... Chief, it's not your fault or... it's not our police fault. See, and coming back to what we said. I rode with people. We pick up guys, They put them in jail and when we get back down there the same guy is out there selling drugs. The same individual. He beat us back down there. So, now, but like the Mayor says, I can't tell them the Governor. I can't tell them Janet Reno, but it's damn strange that when White folks start getting hit with bricks on I-95 everybody is concerned and nobody give a damn about stopping drugs on 60th Street. Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I'm sorry... Mr. Mayor, I will make another, motion at this time that this budget be readjusted to reflect a hundred fifty P.S.A.'s. Mayor Ferre: All right, is there a second to that? How much is that going to cost? Mr, Plummer: It's thirty additional. Mr. Pereira: in addition to the fifty that we are projecting and addition to the seventy that we have now. Mr. Plummer Would be an additional. thirty. Mr, Pereira; Ok, Mr, Dawkins; Second, Noyor Ferre; It's been moved and seconded. Mr. Pereira ; $750,000. 04, $hcw a uusnimous vote on that. ?4 5@Ptember 94 iW5 1 1�1 The following Motion was ihtfoduced by Co&bissi5ner Plummeff who thoved its adoption! MOTION NO, 85z362 A MOTION b1k9CTIN3 THE CITY MANAGER TO HAVE THE PROPOUD Pi 85=86 POLICE DEPART-''d"' BUDGET AMENDED TU REFLECT .0 !UCREASE OF THIRTY (30) P&S, s AT AN APPhOXI'M TE COS: )F $75003r BRINGING THE TOTAL NIMtER OP P. S, A.' s TO 150. Upon being seconded by Coth ssloner Dawkins, the motion was passed and adopted by the fol owing vote - AYES". Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins C6=.-'Lssl6ner J. L. PluMler, Jr. Mayor Maurice A. Ferre NOES,. None, ABSENT! Commissioner Demetrio a, Perez, Jr. Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo Mayor Ferret Chiefs let me, going back to this,.. and by the way I think that's even more important that the cars. You know, Archbishop one time gave me a real ear full because I was saying that we needed to do something about Camilus House. And said "Well, those are God's children, you know, and even though they are drunks. I said"I will tell you what Archbishop, that's fine, but all I want to do is move them out of the City of Miami and they can go over to another jurisdiction and they can be God's children over in Coral Gables or in... and he said "Well, that isn't very nice. I said "You damn right it isn't very nice, but we don't want them here. We don't want those panhandlers and pushers" Well, we didn't get our way, but I want to tell you to the answer, do I want those drug dealers dealing in the County? No, I don't. want them dealing any where, but I will tell you what, I have got no responsibility over the County, but I am a voting member of this Commission and the Mayor and as far as I'm concerned, I want to push them out of the City of Miami and if that means that we are going to have to deal with bottle throwing and that we are stepping on people's toes, let those guys that are pushing drugs on Grand move over to the Coral Gable side. Let the Coral Gables Police Department worry about. We put press on them and let's move them over to the County side. Let the County deal with it. Well, why is it that they always end up on the City side of the street? Mr. Dawkins: And Mr. Manager, I would like to suggest that they since they • are crying about the overcrowdedness of jails, because if you go and sweep like you are supposed to on 60th Street and Grand Avenue, you are going to have many people in jail. So, you may want to think in terms of asking somebody to let us use Crome Avenue as a detention center, because if you don't as 800n as they get in jail that is overcrowded and they are back out on the street. Mayor Ferro; See, I guess all we are saying and I hear all of us saying the same thing Mr. Manager, is rather..* you and I know that there are two or three thousand criminals out there and the Police Department knows by name and certainly by face and certainly has a file 04 half of those people for sure and I think what I'm saying is it's time for us to go to those problem areas and hot areas that we -know exist and you know, I'm not saying don't patrol the River and I'm not ssyiUS don't 9.4 out and give lectures on child abuse, I think that'a that's important. And I'm not saying don't go out and deal with terrorists or with the gangs, the Mafia and aQ on, those are all important activities that a Police Aopartmont ;gust deal with, but I am seyi- would you F10400 deal with the immediate problem or people $otting held up, burflsrised and drut3a beia$ sold peat on the woeT firat. Gan we deal with those thinP first? Thooe nre immediate, We know they oiist, the Police Department knows eNsctly what's going on, I mean, those are not,;# we are not remling to you thine@ that you don't know. I ;gaarsntee your you :know# that 844 a hundred tia►ea more, For god'o eake identify your top five prob. lampt go out nhd do e0Methi44 +shout it plea§#, l epteaper 9" 1905 mt, Plummer: Chief, how fnany other Municipalities have the luXaty of a pri66hef process? Chief Dickson! 1 don't know, sir, V,ft Planter: . _:n't think ahy of thee• lot I think we are the only city that has prisoner pry^ess he if I`t not thistar.en& Chief Dickson: Mr". Pluftffaeri h•3 on_ has a arrest process as the City of Miami. Mr, Plummer: Ok, Welli I'tt trying to male a point ihlef, OF, Hove taany policemen do you have in prisoner process? Chief Dickson; Tvi,-� per day at the Lost. Mr. Plu=er: Last I heard, it was thirteen. Chief Dicksoht That's over ,a twenty-four hour period, seven days a week, Mr, Plummer: What I want to come to Chief, 1 think we have reached a point where there are certain luxuries if you..& and that's a wrong word to use=-- certain things that we are doing that possibly we can't afford and i think you need to identify some of these. If you can come up with a rationale of a prisoner processing which is exactly duplicated when they get Downtown to Metro, I don't know of any other city that is processing at their local level or their municipal level and then doing it again in Metro, they just take them straight to Metro. How many policemen in prisoner processing? Ten. Ok. But you see, Al, what I'm trying to say. If you can come up with a rationale which I have never heard, by the way, that we need to process prisoners and then do it again Downtown which no other municipality to my knowledge does, that's one thing, but if not, if not, these are ten men that could be put out on the street to be doing police work. Ok. Now, I think you can go right down the list with those. Chief Dickson: We can go down the list with those Mr. Plummer. Mr. Plummer: Well, Chief, I want to tell you before this budget process is over and I want to tell the Manager the same thing, this is key. This is what is more on people's mind than anything. This has got to be our priority and I'm telling you if you expect my favorable vote on budget this year, you have got to come back and identify for me the areas that you can put in civilians, not to replace policemen, but where you can put in civilians to put the policemen out on the street. I'm telling you that I think you can do another hundred with no problem. Now, yes, something else is going to have to give, but I think it's passed time and if you are looking for my favorable vote on a complete budget, it's going to be crucial on that one question. Mayor Perre: You see, I think what everybody is saying Mr. Manager, and I guess this is criticism, it's a question of priorities, you know. I'm not saying that we are in a crisis,- because I think police work is always_ criti- cal, police work is always on a crisis basis, but I do think that we need to prioritize things, There are somethings that are a lot more important than others and I'm not too sure that we are doing that. I think... you know, with all due respects to you Chief and to Al, and to the 'top braes of the Police Department, there is really not a hell of a lot of difference between this budget and other budgets that I have seen over the past twelve years, you know. I'w sure you disagree with that, but other than more money, the ap- proach to this,,. Chief Dickson, I don't disagree Mr. Mayor, Mayor Form I mean, the approaeh to this budgzt is pretty much the same old thing, you know, and the eame old thing is just not Going to work, I don't think. Xrt ,F@rviros Kr, Mayor, let so say that I am so pleased at wrist you hove ea=d and the otter CoA*asioA?rav because this is exactly th? Qiregtian that after the budget being Vrelsented* that both the Chief 44d his stefi' have been 1965 r directed to move t6tard. You know, i am a believer that we need to go back to basics in terns 6f the Police Depart.teiit, I think that the Police Depart= merit ... it's not only in the City of Miami, I think hation fide have become over spe^ialized. You know, we have white dollar cr.te uniti blue collar crifie unit, you know, ,you have all kinds of craze things going on and we have tended to go away, y: j know, fr•rs '._%i - basic job of police which is to pate streets abd that is s6det"11ng whi zh ;; :)u s,:,vw %, arc tt: ving in that direction: Mayor Ferret See, V%.,t... I 4:_aa ree with that stateteht. It isn't,., the basic job of the police in 1385 is not to patrol the st"eet, The basic ,jot of a well run police depattment in 1985 is to prevent cri%e+ Mr. Pereira! Well; being proactive. Mayor Ferret lt's proactive rather than reactive; because we don't have enough money and we don't have enough cars and personnel to patrol the streets. That's exactly the point. That is the key issue. We do not have enough money, personne�- or equipment to do old fashion police patrolling of streets in this police department or any other police department in America, We now need to do two things; Identify special target areas. Narrow the scope. Go after those prioritized target areas and two, utilite the community as a P t ho be P P f we can do those two thingsesthenv tohelpers Ithink we are on our way to achieving odifferent mind of a result with the police department. Mr. Plummer: Mr, Mayor, I think we got our hint when the Manager sent us our packet for this Commission meeting and he said "Please note that your budget items for this packet are in a plain brown envelope. That means it was obscene. Mr. Dawkins: But I would like to leave with one clear statement. I would hope that and it will probably be printed that way and doesn't make that much difference to me, that Miller Dawkins is not against fighting child abuse. Ok. All Miller Dawkins is saying is that it's something that the Haitian parents are doing to Haitian children that they are not participating our criminal culture and if we have been going out giving child abuse seminars, I Would like to know the results of it. What brought it about? What we coun- seled' them on and what the response was? That's all I'm saying, because perhaps it can be modified and transferred over to some other parents who don't seem to understand that the parent run the child and the child does not run the parent, in my opinion. Mr. Plummer: Chief, I always ask the same question I'm going to ask of you, you can answer it now if you want to or you can do it tomorrow. Was there anything that you asked for in your budget that you felt was really helpful that you didn't get? Chief Dickson: I would like to answer that question a little later on. Mayor Ferre Crutial or important. Mr. Plummer Chief, let me say this to you, you know, and I know you are gong to walk away from here today and say those S.O.B.'s. Ok. Let me say to you I think that these three and I think the five of us, we want to help you. Ok. We understand it from one aspect, that's the political arm. You understand it from an operational and a practical aspect, but you know, if we would not know if we didn't ask questions that you need additional vehicles and it's unfortu- nate that we have to go through this kind of a process to bring those things out, but I think.,. I don't think there is anyone here today and'I will speak for myself, but I'm sure l speak for the other, that are trying to do you in. I think we are trying to help, but the only way, unfortunately, through our process that we can help you is to find out and dig into these areas and I'm telling you. As far as I'm concerned, I''m willing to dig if that's what it takes to make you the finest Police Chief in this Country. Chief Aickaon; Thank you, Mr. Plummer. I look at tbas as a positive measare and I also welcome the opportunity fire first time to stand up before you and talk! and ;) male you aware as best I can of the problems arising and some proposed solutions and to go over this with you, $o, I see it as a positive and not a negative. 61 ?7 pepteohea^ 54 905 1 Mayor Perte! Thahk you, Chief: Any other questions of statements? y1p, MAhager, it's now 11!3O, I think we can get into the Fife bepafttleht. Mf. Plumm ers iao, we put that off for 2 O`clock, Maurice, Mayor Ferfet A.L! r,c?-t, weld need t teii your I will n-st be here because I because I have a conflict and I have the South Flofida Pl'ahning Couhcil 6teeting all day today and as #6u khow, there are two important Mialti Issues before us. One, is Claub;y t•:�r, Island and the other otie is that stadiuffi up at bake 1,ucerb Which if passed will reduce inc6le to the City of' Laiti by a millioh and a half dollars as you know. I'm not going to vote that way. Obviously, I'M not there to vote a parochial way, but I need to be there because I aft representing both the City of Miami and the cities in Dade County and I thit,k that is s- itething that I need to be there. Mr. Plumtaert I will be back at 2 O'clock, Mr. Pereira., Ox. If you want to; we are trying to and I spoke with both Commissioner Plummer and Commissioner Dawkins, we can break up the session tomorrow and have it...for example, have a session in the afternoon tomorrow and Wednesday afternoon father than to keep your whole day. Now, if you want to rearrange the department Mr. Mayor, if you are interested; Obviously, in the Fire Department, which is one of our major departments. We could reschedulethem for tomorrow afternoon and kick off with them tomorrow at 2 ratherthanhave them today. Mr. Plummer: I would suggest that you do that and would suggest to put the Fire Department off. Mr. Pereirat Put Fire until 2 clock tomorrow and address another department this afternoon. Mayor Ferre I tell you what, I really don't have any problems with the Fire Department. So, I have no problems with you going ahead. Mr. Pereira: All right, then we will leave it here. Mr. Plummer: I want to tell you that my children have mandated to me that'I will not be here after 4 O'clock this afternoon. I am in charge of the Kentucky fried chicken and mashed potatoes and we are leaving at 5:30 for the Orange Bowl. That is a mandate. Mr. Dawkins: So, what's the schedule on this now? Mr. Pereira: We will be back at 2 O'clock this afternoon with the Fire Department. Mr. Dawkins: The Fire Department. Mr. Pereira: Tomorrow afternoon and Wednesday afternoon. Mr. Dawkins: Ok. You are not meeting in the morning. Mr. Pereira In the morning, no. So, you will have a -little more time to attend to your business and we will notify the rest of the Commission. Mr, Plummer: Ok. I will see you at 2 O'clock. Mr, Pereira; Thank you. WURMUPON the City Commission recessed at 11:30 A.M. and reconvened at 2;10 P.M., with the fallOw ug members of the Commission found to be present; CQ�►issioner Miller J. pow4ini3 CQm iasio4er j. i,. Plummer, Jr, peptember 94 19 5 AN a. msc_asaazssaamaa+caazassc�ctaa=a�.maasaasaasamx�csssnmyaax�ascamssts�eaaercanaz�estmaasra 4= DISCUSSION OF 95-85 BUDGET FOR DEPAR AIENTS OF FIAEt PUBLIC WORKS, PLAN IhI o PLAf3 -M kNb ZONING BOARDS, CORPUTERSi WVIIN1 ITY bEvELOPi BT AND HUMAN RE- SOURCESr �t��.m.it�m�:_��s�m�xn�ae��n�a�rcra��mmaa�samsc�a�sa.m��.araa�5iem=ass��asn�mmsns.r$�es Vir. Plubuiet! tor. Niahager, for the recordi I would like to ask that totiorrow's Uneeting, that y,hu bring me a list of schedules, showing what would happen if this d6tt-ssioti ifaposes upon you a 3% cut, a 5% and a 10%. In priority, show us ghat; in fact, would he have to give up - the Goi tissi5n. I notice with glees in your budget ttessage, that you ate showing that th:s yeai we are actually having more revenue than we had last year, but also, I would also I would like your best guesstimate as to ghat we are going to be down next year, which seems to be the crucial yeat, so if you will bring me 316, 5% and 1�-j% cuts. By the way, let me ask this question. Mr. Pereira: Let me ask for clarification = you want where would I cut 5b, I C)% ... Mr, Plummer: I want to know that as you start at the top and you start down= cutting, What would be the first thing to go and what would be the lest thing on a 3%, on a 5%, and on a 10? Mr. Pereira: All tight. Mr. Plummer: All right, do you have anything before we start?. I will express to you, Mr. Manager, as expressed to me by the Mayor this morning �- I think ilk. would be to everybody's benefit .., is the Budget Department listening? ..* it would be to everybody's benefit to out out all of these pretty pictures that we are looking at. Mr. Pereira: We have .6. Mr. Plummer: Okay? I think this is really an area where the Commission needs to ask questions on particular items and information they are going to need, and I mould like to cut these presentations down. I know that they were all done by computer, and I am happy for that. I think it is great, but I don't think that is the purpose of our sitting here. I think we need to ask questions and get some answers. Fire Chief? Chief McCullough: This is essentially a hold the line budget. There are no additional personnel. There are no additional new programs that have a cost factor to them that won't fit into the fixed budget. I have some overhead, but unless you want to see them, I can hit on some of the significant accom- plishments that I think were the most important ones and a couple of the problem areas and we can go right to questions if you like. Mr. Plummer: Pull the one out on minorities - what you have done with minori- ties - I think Commissioner Dawkins, without even asking, will .want to see that, and other than that, I don't think you need to pull out anymore, unless the Commissioner has a question. - Chief Me Cullough: Mr. Dawkins, we can give you goals and objectives from every division within the Department if you like, Mr. Plummer; Look at the difference how this one is readable, Sergio, com- pared to the ones that we had before. Chief McCullough; What we have here are two charts. The chart that is on your left is the chart that we prepare for human Resources and it coincides with information that they submit to Washington. The one are the right are pie charts that indicate how Affirmative Action has improved in the Fire Service since 197. This year, by the end of the year, we expect to achieve a IFS% mi.uority within the Fire Service and the entire Department, That would include buildia!$ and Zoning sad all the Divisions. On the bottom chart, we expect to achieve �4% in the Uniform Service, MF. Fluffier; Whxi, is tb4i se opposed to last year? ld 29 5ept@0@r 9, 1985 0 Chief MdCulloughi bast yea% was 31'a Iasi ally, the hew hires, we have been hitifig 8o,: minorities its the nevi hires and as you can seer each year it has gone up 2% or 3%, We have in the neighb'�rhaod of 20 to 40 hew hues each Yeats Mrs Plu>r- ?. Chief, *;'i3' _-s.^e �r :; v a: r r. :.E 71 this y?8:' with the hew change in budget? We know tit% ..11 d :L t of uepat,tlents where the "rule of 70, you are goifig to have a great hufnber of people who ate bai 1i ,g out, What are you looking a. t; yo;, r pepattt ent? Chief McCullough; We could have as many as 70 people. St this tine, only 6 people have stepped f,5rward and said ''I intehl to retire''. I doh't kn6w why they are playibg it so close to the chest, but that is where it is at right nor. We have taken a look at those that are eligible to retire AM it is approxltoately 70, Mr, Plumteri That would qualify? Chief McCullought Would qualify, Mr. Plutt ert Dut, you only knout of indication at this poiht, of 107�44 Chief McCullough. That is correct. On the left hand side, we have taken a look here at the number of opportunities for employment. There were 49 opportunities for employment in our Department. 41 were Fire Fighters, 8 were non -uniform. Of the Fire Fighters, 80% hired were minorities. Of the hot - uniform, 87% were minorities. In the promotion area, there were 37 opportuni- ties for promotion. In the uniform ranks, that was 24 positions, 54% Were minorities and in the non -uniform, there were 13 opportunities for promotions, and 67% were minorities. Mr. Plummer: ID your Department is there any chance where you have ..* we are trying to shake people out of the police Station s.. is there any possibility within yours of increasing civilians and putting Fire Fighters back to fight" ing fires? Chief McCullough: Yes, we have identified eight positions. Mr. Plummer: How many positions would you say that you have that are not actually fighting fires? I am not speaking now about the Building Department. I am speaking about the Fire Department. Chief McCullough: About 20. Mr. Plummer: Is that 8 from that? Chief McCullough: Yes. Mr. Plummer: You would be then left With 12 Fire Fighters that you feel you have got to have. Chief McCullough: That is correct. Mr. Plummer. There is no further way that you could civ lianize. Chief McCullough: 18m not counting my staff, now. I am counting lieutenants and Fire Fighters, Mr, Plummer; Okay, how gamy on ,your staff? Chief McCullough; Where are 10 on my staff. Mr. Flum-or; Okay, Chief McCullough: Fasentiolly, it is is the tirai4 ns 4roae, in the Management Servi'Fee 4re4 where we have,' cpuple of officers Who deal wi 0 cAside elpploy. Mont, People Who 4ee1 vith eclfioet one some penous �4 Vhe 'teecWe pivi- ein, who deal with suppl'w auk iavop0rIeS, Id 3 d+@FtexbVr 94 190 l ' t Mrs PlutatUer! is that Fire Fighters'? Chief McCullough! There is a Fire Fighter there who is a light duty Fire - Fighter, who when he gat well, didn't go back to fire fighting and has tea tuained there fol, a couple of years: Mr. Plummer! You would replace him with a civilian. k Chief McCullought We could, yeE. t Mr. Plummet'! Could or are? i Chief McCullough! Could, or will. We have identified those positions, and expect to be ding that next year. .'. Mr. Plummer! When I walked in next door, I saw a person behind the desk over there with a Fire Fighter's uniform on, Chief McCullough: That is correct. Mr. Plummer! Why? Chief McCullought He is not identified. The position was established in there when Building and Zoning became part of the Fire Service to show the flag. He is a member of our Department. He is a uniformed officer, it gave ` them the impression for the first time that they were now part of another organization and not a Department that stood by their own, or by themselves. He had some special skills in the revenue end and we began the certificate of use collection, which is raising almost $400,000 a year, he was the person who was to manage all of that - Fire Fighters being on time, being people people who were somewhat rigid, we wanted to strengthen the part of this Building and Zoning organization to show that things needed to be done on time; when you are given assignments, they needed to be completed. So, it was a very posi- tive thing, we feel and it was done on purpose, it wasn't an accident. r Mr. Plummer: Do you want to get into the thing that you and I have talked a great deal about with the Manager? ... as far as the false alarms? Chief McCullough: All right. There are some things that we have done. Do you want to ask the questions, or do you just want me to get into it? Mr. Plummer: Well, are you including any of this in your budget, I guess is really the fair question to ask now. Chief McCullough: There is nothing included in the budget other than it is an gym; issue that we need to resolve and that we have been working on. With the issue of false alarms, with rescues, or needless calls, we have prepared and have gone into a new method of priority dispatch, a system that has been used in Utah for about two years, which they use to screen their calls and to decide who should be sent. As a result of an incident back in October where we failed to dispatch on an incident where: people requested' service, and in the method of screening that we used at that time, this call was turned over to Randle -Eastern Ambulance and it turned into a disasterous result where someone died when Randle -Eastern failed to respond. It is a new system. We have trained 24 operators in the new system. We have hired three people who are tri-lingual and speak Creole now, to assist in handling calls other than }rh, English. We have gone into a self-help program where we have trained eight of �r our dispatchers at the level of emergency medical technicians and they are V able to give some directions as to what should be done to a patient who may be `z in critical condition prior to the arrival of the first apparatus. In the Law �r Department office is some recommended legislation on habitual abusers of the system, what we might do as 3t it relates now to alarm systems in buildings, ' which would be false alarms due to alarm systems going off accidentally, or r° being too sensitive, or not being maintained properly. There is also some recommended legislation in the City Attorney'a office regarding that m4tter. a F Mrs pinmmer; Mr. ftnagEr, ghat are you doing in refzre;zFe to trying to get the Gouty to pay for ua for those ;people that we ere tr4naportia6, which tbey e;re su osed '�P be pF # ying far, &nd have not in the past? �u z ^jJ Td L eF le ►ber95F 5 3 c z Mrs Pereira: We are gsi,g to be : r go ahead, Chief+ Chief McCullough: I have some iiifoi�tation you don't have yet. I vontacted the C6uhty Mahaget's off ice last creek, f talked with Connie Jones Connie J6ne`e assistant, and we had eoine dialogue back and forth and I explaihed to f= theft your cohcpra, the possibility of us developing a prbpnsal wheire they do pay us for tran-p: rt, an^ the feedback I got vial that the County does not feel that there is shy mandF to for tber% to ptav idk; emergency trensporta'tion County= *ides `ve 3iredted a letter to the City Attbthey to ask fir her feelings on _ She doesn'-L have it yet because this was just done Ptiday and that `thatt � ' Merrett Stierheim hat had t3ffte thought in the recent past, and maybe only after he fedt Ved My phche call, but hat some thoughts that it is getting too expensive and maybe they 'should discontinue providing County -wide a ergenzy transportation. Mr. Plummert What about reiiLbursement from insurance companies and medicare? Chief McCullough: We have investigated the possibility of charging $15►0 for transportatibn, fuch as is done by Dade County for about three years, and was begun on Miami $each. We have that information ready and we have askei the City Attorney for an 6pini6n at what would be necessary to do to put this into effect. Mr. Plummer: Approximately how many people did we transport last year? Chief McCullough: About 12,000, Mr. Plummer: Times $75 host much dollars is that. Chief McCullough: I think it is around $500,000, $600,000. However, Dade Countya collection rate experience has been 42%, and we figure we probably wouldn't do quite that good the first year or two. Mr. Plummer: We will go outside and get it then. Mr.` Dawkins: Madam City Attorney, have someone research back to me that when land at Jackson Memorial Hospital was given to Jackson from the City of Miami, there was a covenant that the Jackson Memorial would provide all the indigent care needed for City of Miami residents. Find out for me, legally, in the event that Dade County refuses to pick up, how can we as a City also refuse to pick up, to force the County into providing the service that it is committed to perform, please. Ms. Dougherty: We will do it. Mr. Plummer: I will tell you - the best way is to just cancel their contract at the port. 4 Chief McCullough: We have several significant problems that we are going to � be attacking this ear, that you see could pick out and the budget message. Y r Y � P� r 8 g One of them is traffic control. As traffic becomes more and more congested, it is taking, us longer and longer to get the scenes of incidents. We have ;.•" entered into a contract with Metropolitan Dade County to have computer control of 30 sets of traffic lights - up to 500 traffic lights within the City of Miami. The City of Miami actually has one third of the traffic lights in all of Dade County, so by the end of this year, and part of the first of next year, we will have control of 30 roots. We can get all of the lights green on 62ad Street. We can get all of the lights south of 62nd Street on 7to Avenue green. We can get the lights green down North Miami Avenue, or whatever, and we have entered into that contract and it should be ready and operational by the first of the year. s= Mr. Dawkins; Does it cost, or free? Chief McCullough. Approximately $350,000. Mr. Dewk ne. Why is it, Mr, Manager, and �upt you 4wst, left the County why is it every time xs want something from the County, it is a dollar figure, and when they cone to us, it is a gratis figure, 14 R 5@Poz1)@r 94 1955 Mf, p u ier: Goad Ole boys Chief McCullough; Mr, Mahager, Negotiate with the Mahager of the Couhty, and tell him that Miller bawkihs feels that it is time that the C6uhty be recilfbz cal, and t.:e ory thing that we should be charged for that is the actual cost of putting it into operation. Mir, Plummer! So we Will cut off buheta's bridge Chief McCullough! We are going to be Working stringebtly at reducing the ti$1e to respond to dititen c6Mplaints, that is the c6ftplaiha about zoning, o building and zoning issues+ We expect to reduce this fro;, three to two days, We also are trying to speed up the time it takes to process plans, At the present time we are able to process additions in a walkathfough in the d16rnirig and we are going to be working on plans that are somewhat more signficant, but not major buildings, to reduce that time from five days to three days, Another problem is over -utilization Of our Very expensive equipment - fire pumpers are now costing $140,0001 aerials, somewhere over $400,Ovv, our rescuesare up in the range of $56,000 and we are working at reducing the number of responses of these units. We purchased three squad uhits, or vans it would just look like a regular van to you, except it was red. We have modified it inside to handle our equipment and a crew, where we will handle basic life support calls with these vans, and three of our 8tation8, instead of using the $140#000 pumper, andweexpect to reduce the numbers of calls by 15%, Also, in this prioritized system, which we have in our alarm office for screening calls now, in the first three months that it has been in effect, and it only was officially in effect, September 1st, but we really were shaking some of the bugs out of it in July and August, we already eliminated 350 alarms that a pumper would have to have responded on► Mr. Plummer: Thank you! Chief McCullough; You are welcome, it makes me happy too. A significant problem that we are having that we didn't just start working on - we had been working on it a long time and we hope to continue to make progress on this, and this is to maintain our manning level while we are doing all this training that is required. Over the past several years, we have had to add emergency medical technician training, where we trained all of our officers. Every officer is trained at the emergency medical technical level. We have 100 paramedics in the Fire Service. We have 35 Fire Inspectors. All of the rest of the inspectors in Building and Zoning have some kind of certification. What this leads to is not only the training for certification, but the re- certification time frame whether it is two years or three years. There also is annual training that must occur in order for you to maintain your certifi- cation. Training and certification is becoming a very large problem that didn't exist five or six years ago. And the problem is to have adequate time - there are union contracts that have constraints for time and one-half - and whatever for training and we have to rearrange people's hours and so forth, and to keep enough people on the streets and do the training is becom- ing a real significantmanagementproblem. Probably the most significant problem we have is over utilization of the emergency medical service, or the advanced life support. We have been working with the Manager; we have made a presentation to him about the need for two additional rescues - it is expen- sive, it isn't cheap. It would run in the neighborhood of $700,000 and we have been working on the possibility of civiiianizing some positions, of phasing this in gradually to reduce the cost, Mr. Dawkins, Chief, 1 have three things to say and we will be finished. The biggest complaint I am getting out there in my area, in campaigning in the total City of Miami, is drugs. The second complaint I am getting is the Zoning Department is not cooperating and it is getting to be a pain i.n the neck. The third thing I am getting is - not garbage, people are Well satio fled with the garbage, but the trash pic4up, so I would like t9 alert you that if 1 am ro-elected, I am going to be coming in perhaps to try and work with you to see bow we can either atreMal.ine that operation* and 1 get the bu.ge 9 4t that 1 am getting complaints on, or whet have You, The other thing that I would like to know to, you 9ompieted and refurbished aerial. 6 on a cost of $15400Q ... Chief McCullough; Tea, sir, 14 �3 P@Fokubor 94 1 W5 ilr► Dawkins: its compared tD a hew for $400 000, The hew one at 1430,000 would have had a life span of what? Chief W ullough! Approximately 20 years. 15 years, front like, 5 years, reserve Mr. bawr:ins : Ar,i the S ` J'01"10 i , . sive us h, -. c,;a:,y life span on the one that you repaired for $1510UO? _l 1•r that truck at all. Chief McCullough; it did no", necessa rely ea,en3 tt,e IJ6 the truck had had wreck damage and we modified some compartments to enclose theta that were open to the air to keep our expensive air mats in. 1;r. Dawkihst Ali right, the next times put in here that it was a unit that was wrecked and it costs $17,000 to fix the wreck, Chief McCullough; Wells that is not totally true. There are other things done, but there was some wreck damage, which, if we took the wreck damage out =maybe it was $20000 or $3,000 there were some additional compartments added per new equipment that was being carried in the open. It was subject to the rain, and so forth. Mr. Dawkinst But, the only thing here, Chief, is you have thrown me a curve, and the curve to me is ... Chief McCullought _ in other -words, you think that we extended the life of it, the way it is written. Mr. Dawkinst The curve to me is we spent $15,000 for a good unit, but we didn't buy a new one for $400,000. And the other ,thing is, who does the training for your inspectors? Do you provide in-house training for 42 inspec- tors by organizing seminars on construction, inspection technicians, and building codes? Chief McCullough: Right, it is various training. Some of it is done by our own people who have that particular skill and certificate and would be done at our training center. There are other times that we have arranged for people to come in from the outside who have some very special skills to teach us. We also can send people to the Fire Academy. We also can send people to Miami Dade Junior College and we can also send people to FIU. That may be a one -day seminar, or a two-day seminar. A great deal is done in house with our own people who have some special skills. t h t Mr. Dawkins: Could I get a brochure on a training component hang, or w a ev- er it is? I mean, at any time, on how this is done. Chief McCullough: Okay. Mr. Dawkins: I have no further questions. What is next, Mr. Manager? Mr. Pereira: Public Works. Mr. Dawkins: Public Works, please. Mr. Plummer: Bring back the Fire Chief, please. Chief, take the microphone. I am sorry, a question needed to be asked by the Mayor's office in reference to the two new rescues that you are putting on. You are putting two new rescues? Chief McCullough; No, sir. Mr. Plummer; What is the reference to two rescues? Chief McCullought The reference to two rescuee is we presented a praposel to the Manager on aeed for two additional rescues and we have worXiug with him ou identifying some positions that could be olviliani'Zed - how they might be phased iu to reduce the cost. i 14 34 5epte10er 9, 1955 Mft Pluft er} 'hell, what about fnahhing on the two additiobal: Is there ahyth hg it this budget ih refefehce to it? Chief McCull6uigh3 No, sir. Mr. Plufifteti la there anything in thin budge ih teference to the two rescue ubits? Chief McCulloug':' NO, si t, except ih the message, in the Managet's message, he ftehti6bed it. Mr. Pluto er: Mr. Manager, is it your intent to honor that request during this year, and if so, where would you get the m6ney, and what about ihanpower? Mt6 Pereira., The whole issue of the two new rescue units y we have the dollars for the capital outlay. My concern was the cost of the requested personnel the chief had, and my feelings were that through ciViliahitation and do s5be other creative Mg tters, we should be able to ..4 I watt him to demon- atrate to me that we will be able to cover the two rescues with existing staff and no Additional staff to be added to it. Mr. Plummer: The question that is being asked, where will the manpower come from - the fear, Mr. Manager is an old fear, that you will take it off of a pumper, or off of an aerial, and put it on the rescue6 if it is to be addi- tional manpower, where will the manning for that come from? Mr. Pereira: That is what I have asked the Chief to identify for me, rather then to have to hire 26 new positions, which is what, I recall, the proposal called for. Chief McCullough: 24. Mr. Pereira: 24• I said to the Chief, that if, in fact, adding two new rescue units, reduced then the need for us to have, 1 think is the pumper for a secondary response, a primary response, and in fact, there were people there who were trained, and you now don't need the person in that apparatus, then why do you need the new individuals? Mr. Plummer: I don't disagree. I am just asking for the record. Mr. Pereira And that is the ... you know, we would not it would be a combination of the process of bringing on civilians, and hopefully, moving some people within the existing authorized manpower that we have available. Mr. Plummer: So your answer at this time is, that you have not made a deci- sion, the monies are there for capital outlay, but before you make a decision as far as manning, you will come back to the Commission. Chief McCullough: That is right, sir. Mr. Plummer: Chief, let me ask you two other additional questions. The number of medical rescue responses you had last year? Chief McCullough: We figure there will be about 38,000 this year. Are you talking about 1984? Mr. Plummer; All right,, 38,000. That is Chief McCullough: Approximately 38,000. Mr, Plummer; All right air, aAd wbiat was the total coat of rescue last year? Chief McCullough; The otul ..,? Mr. Flummer; How much wss reserve lest year? .Chief McCullough; l don't have that, Do you hove the book with you, still? Mr. Perelr#; Yvs, right here: Id t Chief MdCU116Ugh: Theme are two figures that you have to add and they escape Fne f6t the fa6iteht, One of them is telephone franchise feel ahl the 6ther would be the Rescue biviai6n, Chief Vabiah tells rue We had 31,600 in '84 and We are predicting 38000 in 1985, (INAUDIBLE BACKGROUIVt Mfl, PlUMer., Acrix Itacl,? Mr. Pereira! 50000,000f 116ughly6 Mr. PluMett. Approximately 5j000o000& Will you have somebody do a dal.,_ula= ti6h! 1 Would like to know What it costs us per run. Thank you, Chief. Chief McCullough: Can 1 respond to that? Mr, PluMer! NO! (IJAUCHTERI" Mr, Cather, nice to see you* sir. The signif= idant accomplishments I think of interest to the Commission V6Ad be the fact that by the end of next year, we will have completed all of the design of sanitary beWers in the City of Miaizi# with the exception of a small portion of Watson Island and a portion of N. W, 36th Street* which sticks Out into the Couttyj which We won't be able to finish until they complete their sanitary sewers in that area, Mr. Plummert Well, designing them are nice, Now, you have got to design by * 86. When can we, the elected officials, tell the public that they are going to be completed? Mr. Cather: Early in 187. Mr. Plummer: That is total? Mr. Cather: Total. Mr. Plummere. Everything but Watson Island? Mr. Cather: Watson Island and a little piece of 36th Street. We don't know when we are going to get to that because that is depending upon the County. Mr. Plummer: Are you speaking about Jai -Alai? Mr. Cather: Yes. Mr. Plummer: So in other words, by '67, early '87, we will have storm and sanitary sewers. Mr. Cather; No, sir - just sanitary. Mr. Plummer: Sanitary? Mr. Cather: Yes. Mr. Plummer: Okay, and that is everything but that little area around Jai Alai and Watson Island. Mr, Cather: Right, Mr, Plummer; All right, now the important question. Do you have the money necessary to complete? Mr, Cather; I have the money to complete the sanitary aewerp. Mr, Plummer; Through the bond Issue. 14r, 4ther; Yes, air, Kr* D4wkinp; Queptionq why ip it that it toot tw;) ,years for whoever got Vie contract to redo 12ti Avenue from 71pt �trvos Fs.W, to 46%h Street N,W*? and it is ptill in the Fromp of Wiug rop4indl tsfiapt@L'Dg r 94 1955 �_...-. r✓_.. ... ..-..tea...... ., i Pit, Lather: Wellf 61L' doufse, as you are Well &Waite of, Mr. Dawkihsy it is a 46Uhty project. We have been on thefts c6atihu6usly to speed it up. datcia Allen is the d6httadt6r on this, i agree with ybu 100%. I 'think it is 6ne 6.f the lousiest jobs I've seen! Ilk, Da*k-'�iG: N6, I will have to say you have done all you could, sift. I have to c6mtttend you - y<,,-' }:av done 5-I you coulj to speed it up. It is hbt your fault at all. — Mt. Cathett We have coi,;rxct. rs that have been slow on us and we are going to be assessing them some enormous iiquidative damages and when we come in and ask for liyuidative damages in the thousands of dollars, that is one ofthe reasons that I would like to appreciate the Comfmiss 6h1 s support in slapping them down when they don't get the projects completed on time and within budget: Mr. Dawkins: but you see, the ptobleia I have with this, Mr. Manager, is we get back to there low and response bid, see? When they get low and get all these damn change orders and delay time ... 1 mean two years they have had this street torn up and people on that street have been inconvenienced, and he has written to Tallahassee and yet, they tell me that it is the County's responsibility, but it is in the City of Miami. So now, how do 1 avoidthis on other City streets? Mr. Cathert Well, I hope you never have that problem on City streets. We are still going to have ... Mr. Dawkins: Well, 12th Avenue is City Street. It is in the City! I meat, ... I am sorry, sir - it is streets within the City. Mr. Cather: It is streets within the City and you are going to have another construction project shortly at 17th Avenue. That is going to be under was, and that is going to be a very different project. I hope the County gets a good contractor on there. Mr. Dawkins: Okay, Mr. Manager, you inform the County Commission, that since they don't understand anything else, that we may have to come to the County -: Commission and let them do the street one block at a time. How many blocks is <. it from 71st to 46th? Mr. Cather: Roughly ten blocks to a mile. 46th to 71st would be twenty-five blocks. Mr. Dawkins. We are talking about twenty-five blocks and they have torn it all up at one time, and they haven't done that no place else. Mr. Plummer: Oh, the hell they are not! They are doing it on 17th Avenue from S. W. 1st Street to Dixie. Mr. Pereira; They are doing it on Flagler too. Flagler is all torn up. Mr. Dawkins:' Well, why do they not do it on Brickell? Why is it just in the minority neighborhoods? -.t Mr. Plummer: Simple! They are not doing anything on Brickell. Mr. Dawkins; Okay, go ahead sir. Mr. Plummer; Let me go back to this what about storm sewers? How far off are we on stoat sewers for what we need? I don't need the pictures. I can understand. He speaks good English. .' Mr, Cether; On storm sewers, you authorised me to hire consultants to com- pletely review and prepare a ;Waster plan for storm sewers. As you were aware, we did pass two years ado, a storm sewer bond issue for another $3O,QOQ0000, ,. We are proceediug with a lot of local dreiaaae structures - some ma4or droin- r: ,; a6e atructurea lime Wagner Creek, but we are still awaiting for the massive` atorm water drain -age plan to come out. It should be out within sir months. '= That is $pia$ to pve us a guideline for the future, for the eatire City. I j, ;Felt that we were you knows doing BoQd work all aloe, b�1; I still wsiin�ed r d �7 September 94 7985 M k E-00 doihe Fhajbt objectives to go for as far as out storm waters because that it the biggest d6m-plaiht 1 get) is surface stoft water. Y,f, Plafidef! What about 36th and the Trail? It doesn't take but A 6ptitikle to flood that &tea& RN baWkita! Especialli fr3i4 S, Wi bth Stteet- ftom 40t:, back t-:) 35thi (INMIEUE BAOKGF'.�UND COMMENT'c' Y,r, Cather'. What? That is a State road, of course 1 know that) ye",' we are trying to 644 Mr, Plu=er: The people in the public don't know that. Mr, Cather! I kn6wj but we are 66t Mr, Dawkins; And they all of them vote for the! Y,r, Cather-. We are trying to work as closely as we can with the State on drainage problems. To give at example of some of the problems we have go,, - as you knowt we have had a problem area - a few very low spots West Of 22nd Avenue and north of Dixie Highway and We are putting positive drainage there into an outfall. on 22nd Avenue. That outfall is supposed to cross Dixie Highway. We had a previous outfall there which the State had rebuilt with our outfall - they enlarged it, and now they are giving us a hard time about going back in our own outfall. 1 spoke to them about 15th Road many, many times about the problems we had in drainage because of their flooding the overflow of their drainage into our streets and then down into our outfall. Mr. Plummer: Is that the Department of Transportation? Mro Cather: Yes. Mr. Plummer: Do you know who the Assistant Chairman, or the Vice -Chairman is? Mr. Cather: Mr. Plummer? Larry Plummer? Mr. Plummer: I think he would love to have a phone call from you. Mr. Cather: Well, we try to keep it on the basis, of you know, person to person basis, rather than trying to go over his head, but ... Mr. Plummer: That is why you are still hip deep in water, because you are keeping it on that basis. Mr. Dawkins: And another thing, what about ... and I have been through this to with you - 7th Avenue and 23rd Street, there by that tower and at New Forensic Hospital .*. Mr. Cather: That in where the seaport coastline is. Mr. Dawkins: I get calls and get cussed out because people go get their cars aligned and the minute they bit that ruilroad, it knocks the car out of align. Now, 1 have been through this like J, L. said, with the Department of Trans- portation. How do we get that fixed? Xr, Cather; At this point, I would suggest to you the only thing we could do is go out and do it with our own forces. Xr. Dawkins; Too, Mr, Cather; Too know,, right now, we ,, the State is oat ;o up on that 1-95 project alone for $50,QQQ worth of worm on 1-95. We did $5Q;QQQv 3,40Q man hours, Thst is just on that one little two week work on 1.95; cleaning that up. Now# if we keep doing those things, it its going to ruin our budget. Mr, PoAinp; Yet, Out the Governor slid b@ was going to give up our money* Xr* fluw#r,; U§4 but YQU did Chet 00 44Y tifteP tine 5t40 did W, P@'P1#WbQr 9q 05 Mrs Cather: 1 beg your patdoh? Mrs Plumer. Bali it on television. Mrs Cathet! Oh, Mr. Dawkins t u:cay, a another things OL 1 ,� Wi Avenue and 41 st Street, where the Rapid Transit turfu? up 4th Avenue and goes dowb 41 st Street ... Mr. Cather: 40th Street, Mr. Dawkins: ... 40th Street, right - there is a big wooded areas It has trees► trash and garbage 30 streets west of thatf then you get undet the rapid transit expressway and that is all Mahicuiled, and such. When I tail your office, you found out that that is the County's responsibility. It is no longer ours. 1 can't get nobody to cut it, and 1 81h getting calls 2100 o'clock in the morningi 3:00 o'clock in the morning, harassing me, be-ause they are afraid to walk by there. Now, how can I get that cut? Mir. Cather; Well, I am working on it. I will get it cuts Now, ahothef problem in that same area that I had to contend with, is the fact that 6n 40th Street, the County re=did 40th Street. We took out the local drainage in our plans for local drainage to the north of there. Then they turned around and decided they were not going to put the local drainage in street after they paved it, even though it was on their plans and specifications, included in the bidforwork, and I said "This can't be. We approved the plan. They were shown on the plan. We removed it from our plans and now they say welli we haven't enough money to do it!" I don't think that is quite right. Mr. Cather: I will get with you on that. Mr. Plummer: We are going to charge the County $75 for a rescue run and it will cost us $132! Who does that make sense to? Mr. Cather, a couple of years ago ... I am getting very concerned, and it is not because of 1-95 that is a different ballgame. We have today a street light that you can't see. You can't see them because of all the shrubbery and all the trees. Down from my house, the street lights have been out now for about 11 days. Mr. Cather: Street lights have been out? Mr. Plummer: Yes, street lights, not traffic lights. Mr. Cather: I understand you, but 11 days, that is . Mr. Plummer 11 days on Noc-B-tee - the whole thing of Noe -a -tee is out. Okay, it has been. Now, my concern is always, we are paying very good money for street lighting, and we are paying for energy and I am concerned as I ride down 17th Avenue at night, that about at 10%, maybe 15% of those things - they are totally ineffective because they are in a tree, or the tree is grown out over them, and I guess my main concern is, that there is no problem within the City, or within Florida Power and Light to have maintenance to the effect of cutting the trees. What the hell good is it I will show you one, by the way. Do you know where Manolo Reboso lives in Bay Heights? Mr. Cather: No, sir. Mr. Plummer, That is a smart answer, I've got to tell you that! I will show you one street light there that you can't find, but it is on. And the reason the problem is that there is no 04e who is in fact ... you have no program, right, at the present time? Mr. Cather; No, sir. How many tree trimming crews do you have worming? UnideAtified Speaker. Two, Mr. Cather: Two tree trim ing crews. Tw.', bucket trucks for 660 miles of streets. id S,#ptomt@ ' 9, 19@5_ t kr. Plu inert Where s iy Indian? Mario? ?iow mlch are we paying for street lighting right bow? Mr. Catheti $5,000;0bO, fir. Plun:.er: Okayj flow, if you take 10� of that] that they ate either ht>t ob, or you eah' t tee theft, I say that this :.Lty is getting "robbed of t50'oOOu! Mr. Cathet: Okayj bow, from May of 1914 t_, 9Ptil of i985t as you know, Plorida Power and Light was about to stting me up because I went out and I said if the outages are Fhare than 2%p I afn deduct it from your bill. In May, they were 1,98% oiltages on one square faile► I said, if it is 1.95%, we don't charge you. In .Tune, they were 3,76v .+. Mr. Plummer: You see, that is when we have the stary that is if the thing isn't working at all. Mr. Cather: Right. Mr. Plummer: Now, I aft also speaking about the fact of the one that they might as well not even be there# because you can't see them. Mrc Cather: Well, the Public Service Commission in its wisdom has said that Florida Power and sight doesn't have to trim the trees around those lights anymore. Mr. Plummert All right, well then, we have got to do it! Mr. Cather: Then we have got to have more people to do it. Mr. Plummer: Well, okay, that is what I am saying. The way I am getting it now is, they are saying it is not their responsibility. You are saying it is not your responsibility. Mr. Cather: I am not saying it is not my responsibility. I am saying I have ,.. only got two trucks to do it. Mr. Plummer: But, I, the taxpayer am paying for that light that isn't worth a damn, so 1, the taxpayer, couldn't give a damn less who is responsibility it is. My street light isn't producing! Mr. Cather: I agree with you 100%. Mr. Plummer: Now, Mr. Manager, two or three years ago, we went in with a f program you know, God help us, we had CETA people at that time, and we did a tree trimming situation. We put on, I think - what Don, about five crews? Mr. Cather: Yes. Mr. Plummer: Five crews. All I am saying to you, Mr. Manager, is, we are r; upending, in my estimation, $500,000 that is totally wasted. ` Mr. Cather: Fortunately, it is not totally wasted. Mr. Plummer; Well, yes, the tree grows faster. Okay? I would like an answer before budget is passed of what you are going to do to address that problem, because it is a problem and it is more so every day because the trees are growing more and absolutely nobody is doing anything. Okay, would you put up for Commissioner Dawkins ' or would you put u for the Gommissou our slides P "* in reference to minority hiring? Mr, Cather; Total new hires. That says that we have hired April 1, 1964 to August of 1985, we hired 17 Hispanic males, 2 White males, 2 Hispanic females, 1 black few41e, and 5 Dlaek males, for total new hires of 27. Mr. DaKkinat In what areas areas are these e at what salary range? Mr. Gather; All rig*a,, the new hires, from that same period are, first of h ail - an eutamotivo equipment operator, hispanic male; ertiAeering teehhioieu, hiephnio male. id 4p 5@p0mber 90 1905 si �n Mrs Dawkihtl told it, dive U the price ranges bh, "this it utele§St Put it to The ih writing now& you dAh't give that to ibe now, You cah put that dowfi, sefid that to rue put prices Abd give ile a salary ratilge and the salaries, what you paid thews Mt. Cather: Yes, sic, i s.Nx, the promotic+;�i. Mr. Dawkins: Did you protbte eomebody? k Mr. Cather: Yes, sir• :- Mr. Dawkins! Okay, let me see that then. Mr. Gather: Yes, sir - 16, That shows we promoted 4 White gales, 6 Black males, 4 Hispanic males abd 2 Hispanic females for total of 16 Mr. Dawkins: All rights I also want the names, the position then went to, and , the increase in salary. Mr. Plummer: Not nbw, necessarily. Mr. Dawkins: No, not now, Mr. Plummer: But before we vote on your budget. Mr. Dawkins; And Mr. Manager, I need from you - you completed 19 park ,.° improvements at 5.9 million dollars in construction costs. I want the parks, the construction contractors, and how near he was to completing it on time, please. 5,. :.; Mr. Plummer: Mr. Cather, did you ask for anything in your budget that you were told that we didn't have any money for? Do you have any burning issues? Mr. Cather: Yes, sir. I feel that I should have more inspectors to more , closely supervise the work we are doing. That is a report expected out of the Management and Budget Department momentarily. I think that is essential that we have inspectors to make sure that every construction dollar we put in the street we get our full money's worth. i l,.. Mr. Plummer: All right, what about revenue? Are you picking up any revenues for the City? Mr. Cather: Yes, we are picking up a few places here and there. Mr. Plummer: Any place you can pick up more? t`' Mr. Cather: I think we are pretty competitive. 1 Mr. Dawkins: Okay, getting back to ... how many tree trimming teams do you have? w' Mr. Cather: Two. How many men does that take? .; Mr. Plummer: Groups, or two people? (INAUDIBLE BACKGROUND COMENTS) Mr. Dawkins; Okay, how many chippers do you have? Unidentified speaker; We don't have any chippers Mr. Dawkins: Okay, how touch does one cost? Mr, Cather; I don; t Snow. Mr. Plummer; Prob0ly UOX0, Mr, Cetber; 144 Dux Uot would be low, ld V §ep0abor 94 1905 M PIU81er Viell, i think what we heed to see ffoii it, is :chat it Vould cost to d3 it in house as opposed to doing it out of housew Kf, b&Wk-'L §—. I agree with is t:.# but what I am saying is, I at tifed of seeing out people dome back, cut the lifDbs off the fight=of=way, leave them in the stfzeet, four of five days when, if You had the trihite' therey when he cut it, he could do just like everybody else do# tooth# at,d evetytcihe would be finished with it. Mr. Cathet'. I feel that that suggestion has a lot of merit, and I have discussed it at length. it is more men and more equiptent. As it is hoer, the Sanitation Departmeht comes along and picks it up for us, at soon as they can get to it• Mr. Dawkittt Mr. Manager, bee that somebody gets a chipper with a team, if we can) tell me what have to cut, of what I have to add to Sanitation, or what I have to do. I understand, ell we are doing is trying to find methods within his budgets to provide services that we feel are heeded. That is all we are trying to do, if they come back and tell to he can't find the mohey, or if he does, then he may code back and say I can buy you two chippers. Mr. Mummer: Mr. Lather, do you have anything else to say? Mr. Cather: I would like to say that I think our Compster Assisted Drafting and Design Program has progressed very satisfactorily. I furnished the Manager's office with drawings like this, showing the altouht of work done each year. We are preparing all of our sanitary drawings - most of our highway drawings and on a computer assisted drafting system upstairsb We are getting clarity. We are getting all of our municipal atlas sheets gradually on the computer. We are doing all of our aerial photographing, lettering, and so forth, on the computers and it is working out to be a very worthwhile invest- ment. You can see these drawings it details. I've got bigger ones. I don't know whet happened to them, but they are available to you for inspection and ... Mr. Plummer Thank you, sir. Mr. Cather: Thank you. NOTE FOR THE RECORD: AT THIS POINT, THE CITY ATTORNEY LEFT THE MEETING. Mr. Plummer; Next item? Mr. Sergio Rodriguez: Are you ready? Mr. Plummer: Yes, go ahead. Mr. Rodriguez: You asked me a few minutes ago to concentrate on the chart on minorities and females, and if you will look at the chart, the bottom part of the chart shows that 73.3% on the staff of the Planning Department is minority and female. Of that, 13.3$ is female, Anglo; 20% Black; and 40% is Latin# Mr. Plummer; Why don't you give Commissioner Dawkins a chance to look at that and see if he has any questions. Mr. Rodriguez; Basically the figures I want to emphasize is that 73.3% of the staff in the Planning Department is minority and female. 13,3% of that is Anglo female, and 20 is Black ,staff and 40V` Hispanic. Xr, Dawkins; Okay, when you come to your plan, is how many? Break the plan down. Mr, Rodriguez; In planners, when you go to prorvasiona4s. Mr, Dawkins; Well, ail right, gQ ahead, Mr, Fero ;-bupnep; Tee profess Qaales will. be 10% - � of the plannors aro Plack and 4 are Hispanic and 3 ore Ak4los a49 I bays to hay you 4nPw, with a lot of prida# that for example, in tbo o4se 'Of Vhe Black plannero, one of them has keen chosen tQ reooive a l+elloWSbip frox 4rvsrd, it is an bonor that I 4? PeptoOor 94 19-5 1 think this City has hever received before, and he is oh y staff. Let Ile tel you, I think that We should really bahg our drains 6b that 6he! �'. Mt. Plufiiert Not at budget hearih9t Mr. Dawkins; All rightw I alit going to tell you at category ohe Mr. Rodriguez: I don't have any Blacks in that. P Mr. Dawkins! You have 12 people. When was the last turnover in that divi- €.r, $ion? Mr► Rodriguez: In category bne, I have 6 people Only, Mr. Dawkinst When was the last turnover. Mr. Rodriguez,. The last turnover was about 6 months ago, and I hired one Latin. Mr, Dawkinst And the one before that? Mr. Rodriguez,. The one before that, I didn't have any. Mro Dawkinst So in the last ... I have been here four years ... Mr. Rodriguez,. Because the one before that was myself. I was the one that is shown over there, and I came here two and ones -half years ago the first Latin in that category, and the second one over there. Mr. Dawkins: If I get re-elected, you are going to change that. Mr. Plummer: Is there anything you have asked for in your budget that you didn't get? Mr. Rodriguez: No, sir, not this time. ;`` Mr. Plummer: Is there anything that you feel that we ought to know about? �t Mr. Rodriguez: I think that I go before you quite often in City Commission meetings and I discuss all these issues and I believe I have good communica- °g;" tion with all of you on different occasions, so I don't think I have, to discuss every time at the budget. Mr. Plummer: Is Department ready to assimilate next year D.D.A.? Mr. Rodriguez: If you order so. ,# Mr. Plummer: Okay. Thank you, sir. k t_ Mr. Rodriguez: Thank you. ' Mr. Plummer; Mr. Manager, I do feel that these ones that we are running through today, that tomorrow afternoon you should have someone here just in case another Commissioner might show up - not necessarily the Department Head, but someone that could answer the questions relating, if there were any questions. P Mr. Plummer; Aurelio. ` , Mr. Aurelio Perez-I.ugones; My budget, Commissioner, is very straight forward, It holds the line of previous budgets. We keep having 7 peraous and that is sufficient to perform my functions. Do you have any questions? Mr, Plu=er; Well, let me got you this, I am interested in your area Xu tPe Code Buforoe>nent Board, That is in your area? Mr, Perez-Lu8onvo; I am the clerk, I am not the one who originates the case, S; Mr, Plter; Where is that under? ld B@ptaMber 94 1905 i r Mitt Perez=Lugohes! That is under the diftetznt department Fire and Rescue-, or Sanitation. Mrs Plummet: Well, I am happy with the work they ate doing, I ,just think that they need more teeth, that when they day something, people are going 0- — listen. the pftbleffi that I thin: we arQ facing is, that it a pan goes there AM he is bit With a $25 A. he doesh't listen# okay? I'll have to aci3teat that ifs ah6ther issue. 'What about revehues in your Department? tfr. Perez=,ugones: Revenues, with the advent of iies� Toning 6rdnance, Which makes ... a lot of thing6 that used to go to hearings, aubject to Admit ttra. tine review and approval, and als6, With the planning, getting involved in Major use special peftaits. That has dedreased the am6uht of revenue that We have been producing. Also, there has been, I guess, a general slowdown in my area, you might say, so revenues ... Mr. Plu=er: How fnuch revenue did your Department produce last year? Mr. Man6har Surana: 1 think roughly about $200#000. Mr. Plummer: It is costing us $5000000. Why aren't the fees going up? Mr. Perez-Lug6nes: tell, some of it = my revenues novo go to Planning, and Planning collects those fees that I used to produce. 1 don't know exactly the amount of money that they are producing for the City, but we have some more highest fees, air. Mr. Plummer! Have what? Mr. Perez-Lugones: Some of the highest fees in the nation. Mr. Plummer: That doesn't bother me# We are putting on these hearings for the benefit primarily of developers and people who wish to make changes. It would seem to reasonable to me, that that cost, whatever it is, for their benefit, which if granted favorably costs them nothing, that they should be paying the ' ,. fees! It is just that simple. Mr. Manager, I would strongly recommend to you, sir, that you give serious consideration to making this Department on a self-sustaining basis. This Department does not operate solely for the public's interest. It operates primarily for developers. - Mr. Pereira: Let me, because I raised that issue when we had our individual budget hearings, and I think Aurelio had made, I don't recall the response ... In addition to this, and I don't want to divert from this, but I have also asked, I don't know that you are aware that people come in here and submit plans and itis just really crazy that they go through the whole process now, if they dons t like what some of the recommendations, some off the things they're going to do they just never come up and pull the permit. And to much of my surprise, we don't charge them a penny until they go through the whole process and we are making recommendation that they pay something up front so that that staff time that is being utilized, you know. ... Mr. Plummer: I have no problem with that at all. r Mr. Pereira: Aurelio, you argued with me on this one. Mr. Perez-3,ugones: 1 understand what you're saying, and yes, what you're saying is true, we through all the review process and then they maid the application. That is one thing, The other is that many of the applications ; at4 that we get are on single family and duplex areas where the bulk, that is our bulk, you might say. We basically charge a very nominal fee for those. Mr, Plummer: 1 have no Problem if you exclude those, exclude single family residences. Mr. Perez®uPonese That is the Problem, Xr. Pierc_, Mr: Flammer, if l may, we have, it costs us about three to four -, times 'the fee that we are levying for variances, etc, on single family resin 1d 44 POPOWPar 94 1955 deuces, The �6Ui ssioh has hiopted a policy ih the Past to keep those fees low► Mrs Plummer: Lingle family, I agree. Mt, Pierce I take exception to that though, with this caveat it is fine if somebo% 8 itaybe c Os].hg ir, a 8Creehe�2 enclosure or eofbething to add extra moot. But wheh you're got sonebody coming in and putting a V 00,000 addition onto a tJOO,OD house I don't think you're protecting or serving the little guy any longer. Somewhere there needs to be a break there. $ut also to answer your questioh on revenues, we were doing a study on the revenue situa= ton in this Department. One thing that we have found is that the Code tnf6tcement $card is generating in excess of 13% of the Work load of this Department but is only generating approximately .81% of its revenue so We've got some discrepancies there as well: Mr. Plummer: Do you now make a charge to review plans? Mr, Pierce: No, we don't► that's all part of the public hearing fee. What the McAhager was talking about, and We're moving towards mpletnenting, an up- front fee in building and public hearing areas period. Mr. Plummer: Well, I don't see a thing wrong with that. I think it should be whatever it costs the Department, I don't think you should make a profit off of it but I think that if you've got 20 man hours and it is $10 an hour you ought to have the right to pay that fee, now, you know, that is just the name of the game. We're providing the service. If you went to a private firm, you know, just because you never built a house; the architect is still going to want to get paid. Mr. Pierce: We don't disagree with you. Mr. Plummer: Well, you'd better start getting revenue oriented for next year. That's all I'm saying. Give me an example, on Treister's proposal, what did he pay, do you recall, in the way of a fee? Roughly? Mr. Pierce: About $4,000. Mr. Plummer: $4,000. And if he is granted what he is requesting, whatever his proposal is now, he would be going from single family residence to proba- bly what? Mr. Pereira: Multi -family commercial...* mixed use. Mr. Plummer: Would you venture to say, Walter, that his value of his property would probably go up ten fold? Mr. Perez Commissioner, if I may elaborate a little bit on Treister's property. .... I mean about the fee issue, when the ordinance was written that kind of permit was made a major use special permit. For that there is a fee and it is all inclusive. If we had gone the old route, we would have charged him for the zoning changes twice for the variances, and we would have come out, I can assure you that it would have been exceeding probably $30,000 or $40,000. As it is right now, because of this major use special permit which we are going to get to review, we are getting very nominal .... Mr. Plummer: Well, my suggestion to the Manager is you'd better start becom- ing revenue oriented. '4 Mr. Pierce: Just for the benefit of the members of the Commission► I would just like to point out that the situation that Aurelio was talking about is going to be coax=g before the Commission in the next couple of months in the form of an amendment to the ordinance to try to correct that situation until a recent ruling by the haw Department we had to back off and c#arge lower fees, Mr. Plummer; hick► you got any questions? Mr. Perez, by the first A4MQ of Aurelio. Mr, ices, eir, hT 45 04� 1 Xts PIUMetl. bo you have any further statements? MN Peret-tugones: ho, sirs Mrs Plummer; Thank you, sitf good-bye. Who is hext Air. Sufaha Corhputers, 5a►tit Roy, Mr. Plummert You heard the MFayor's comments about how many milliobs we were spehding it the 061puter Departfnent? Well, he's to kihd about that, Pull out your slides Only 3h mi 6 rity hiring and if anybody else has any que9ti,512s about that, put it up first. Hiring and promotions. %iVe Commissioner Dawkins and eVerydbe else a few FUhuteg to 103k St it. The Vest of your dog and pony snzw y,u can take home. Computers - 97. Air. Dawkins! Mir, Poy, 1 know that you have tried t:i do the best that you can over there, but what is the turn over rate, how many people have you had to turn over it the last silt i66nths? Mr. Samit Roy: Commissioner, we have had probably less than 5% turn over in the last year, the last 12 months. Mr. Dawkins; And that 5% equals how many people? Mr. Roy: Two, Mr. Dawkins: What were the two ethnics that were hired? Mr. Roy: We have not filled any positions, Commissioner, in the last 12 months since the freeze. Mr. Dawkins: All right, how many vacancies do you have in Computers? Mr. Roy: About 13. Mr. Dawkins: Thirteen? Mr. Roy: That's right. Mr. Plummer: Mr. Manager... Mr. Pereira Samit, didn't I just authorize a whole host of them? Mr. Roy: Yes, Mr Manager, you authorized filling a number of those positions recently and we are in the process of going through the register right now. Mr. Dawkins: All right, so the Manager won't be angry with you and I won't be angry with you and the Manager, of the 13, what is a whole lot of them the Manager signed in numbers? Mr. Roy: The Manager has approved about 8 positions right now. E` Mr. Dawkins: Eight out of thirteen? Mr. Roy; Yes, Mr. Dawkins: Okay, in categories, look at your chart, sir.We mhave 13. In category it how many of the 8 that the Manager approved goes into category 1? Mr, Roy: There were no vacancies in category 1. Mr, Dawkins: 8o that means nobody goes there. Right? Mr: Roy; No. r Mr, Dawkins; And category 2, of the 8, that the Manager gpproved, how many go them? Mr, RQy; Approximeteiy 4. RT 46I/ kits Dawnibs: Ail rights and You're down oh black and Latih, to out of the 81 6 6f them should, a ffiibirtAb 6f 6 ought to be tatih and blacks if ire're going to bring up if. You've got 7; f yeah i Ahd 3. Have the 922'6 been sighed? Mr.ioyt No, G'oiisaiofieri we are ih the process of establishing the register fOf all of those pdsit3AhR4 establishing the register with HRD for fredtuit$ Ieh't: Mrs bawkinsi we'll i wt-i,y is it triat the pe'otl+' it, your bepaftmeht got to be Hired fr6t the register and we had 2 people ifs the Trade and Commerce m what's that thing Cherlotte is over`? Mr. Pereira: Ihterhational tc6h6mit Development. Mr: Dawr.itst Arid :.hose two didhit come from a roster, what the hell is the difference? Mr. plumte:t One is classified and the other is unclassified. Mr. Dawkins! And both of the jobs in Charlotte's shop are unclassified? Mr. Pereira: Unclassified. Mr. Dawkins: All right. So that's 80 right? And he approved 13? Mr. Pereira: No; "as you know, we have gone into, if you will recall, a modified freeze where each Department head will send into my office a justifi- cation, that want to fill critical positions and Samit just like a lot of other departments had submitted to us a series of vacancies they have. I have authorized him to fill 5 of those 13 positions and he has the option now to come back and argue with me for the balance of them if he thinks it critical to his operation. Sometimes what you put on paper is certainly not, and it is better if you do it verbally. So he has that option and now he is in the process of recruiting, it takes a little time to fill the positions especially if they are classified positions because we have to go, there is no register, ' we have to establish one, so on and so forth. However, it there is, in fact, one that is critical, I understand that there is a way that we can do it, you can hire someone temporarily and then you go back and create the register. The risk that you're running there is that you might find someone else that is better qualified and that other person will be out. Mr. Plummer: Do you understand what Commissioner Dawkins is trying to tell you? You're not answering the question. In other words, Commissioner Dawkins is saying out of the 8 he would like to hear that 6 minorities, and he broke it down, Would fulfill his needs as the Commissioner'a answer to the communi- ty • r, Mr. Dawkins: Being `a minority, I figured you'd understand it that's why 1 didn't go through it. Mr. Pereira: I know what you're saying. Mr. Dawkins: But with all due respect to you, you are doing the best you can a; '- to bring in minorities over there because I know you've been on the top of two or three people's list for trying to do that but that goes with the turf. Go right ahead, air. Mr. Plummer: Just give us a brief overlay of why you have an increase in your E `4.. budget. You can turn that off, we don't need anythiug elae there. Let me ast k you in Forre'a terns. Tell me the three significant things you have done in the Iant year and the three significant problem cress you're going to address ,:. this year . Ferro said five ..•. Mr, Pereira: Like Doha Ayers you know you remind me of John Pyer, he always used to fay, "Let me aey three things;'". mr, Piu or; Rigbl, 44 if you toil me you need automobilv6 you4 re fired, f' Rp1•y ^y Ir7 Nrti Sainit Roy: Co&Iiasionefthe three most sighificaht things that we've done (1) We have taken up 5 years of Booze Allen Plan and completed that pian, completed not only that plan but more than what the plan had called for in a little over two and a half years, (2) We have taken the whole Data Center and moved it in less thann 90 days to a beW l5cation, (3) Pot the first time we have Greaten afatal office automation Ihformation Center that has h6w affect= ad positively each aba ever;.- depa titer, it, the City an3 we have mine that Without any additional requests for funding for automation two years back. MP& PIUMer: Thf ee sighificant things you hope tJ &ccAhpliSh this year, Mr, Royt The first one (I )we want to do is to install those softw Fa impleftental systems that's going to bring the office autorhati6n, the BZ20 efforts in line with the $=79001 the mai.ntrarne, That will give the Depart= meats aczeSs to the mainframe information, (2)We want to expand the Police system to include those intelligence investigative systems that we have already started, We hope to complete those► (3) We want to institute exten- $ive security and audit controls in our center 86 that in case of any disaster or in case of an external audit there will be no room for any kind of cr ti= cism or negative feed back. Those are the three main things that we are going to accomplish, Mr. Plummer! is there anything you asked for in your budget that you didn't get? Mr. Roy: No, Commissioner, everything that we wanted was approved. Mr. Plummer: Commissioner Dawkins, do you have any further questions? Mr. Dawkins: You did ask for an increase in the budget, how much? Mr. Roy t Our budget has gone up by approximately $700,000 and those are primarily due to a large increase in the maintenance costs because we added a lot of equipment last year that the user departments required and the mainte- nance is based centrally from my budget so that shows an increase. Mr. Dawkins: You will be using consultants, right? Mr. Roy: Yes, Commissioner. Mr. Dawkins: The same ones? Mr. Roy: Yes, Commissioner. Mr. Dawkins: Okay, thank you. Mr. Plummer: Thank you, Mr. Roy. $,. Mr. Pereira: We have Community Development now. Mr. Dawkins: Community Development? We're not funding that. Give me your minority hiring and firing. Mr.Plummer. Page 85. ; x- Mr. Dawkins: What has been the turn over rate in the last 6 months? ` Mr. Castaneda; We have filled 6 positions in that time. Hr. Dawkins; Six positions, Okay. What was the ethnic breakdown of the six positions that you filled and what category did they fall in? Mr. Castaneda; They would fall in the professional category, we filled a Senior Houping Re-Hab Estimator Anglo male, a Housing Re-Hab Ratjmator black ;wale, resistant Housing Re-Hab Ratitaator - Latin male, a Typist Clerk 1 - Latin female, a, Clerk 11 - Latin female and an Information and Referral Specialist a Latin female, Mr. Lawkina, So you vent to 52% with L_tins and so �Q% for tlacks, .� ^�..,... AT 0 9/9/05 s Mrs Castaheda: That's dofrects Mt. Dawkihst Did you lure an Assistaht biredtor'? Mrs Castaheda! No, I have hot hired ab Assistaht Direet6f this years I have four AssiLtaht Difedtors, 6f which two are Ahglo, ohe is black slid ohe is Latin# I'a E*tfy, I did hife 'ohe Assittaht Lirect3r this year, one Latins Mil ► Dawkihst Ruh that by rue One More tune, Mrs Castanedat My Assistaht Director that I hired was Latin, t` Mrs Dawkihst And you have four# What are they? Mrs Castaneda; Two Ahg16, one black and one Hispanic, Mr, bawkiust Who is the black? Pit, Castaheda: Francina Culmer, Frahc ha Culmer brooks. iir. Dawkitls: Ybu've got a long ways to go, Mr. Castaheda in this department because it is not much better off than it was when I was here at this budget hearing last year, in my opinion. There are 8 Latins and 2 blacks. Right? Mrs Castahedat "Yes. Mr. Dawkins: I'm not pleased with that at all, Mr. Manager. Mr. Plummer: Mr. Manager, I guess the question to you is, sir, what are you going to do about it? Mr. Pereira: We have been very aggressively, since joining the City of Miami, to make sure that when we have openings that we hire people that represent the citizens of the City of Miami and the people that we serve. And we have made, I know on two occasions I have turned down recommendations from different departments because I didn't feel that we had really gone down and make the kind of recruitment that would be appropriate and certainly the concerns that the Commissioner has will be addressed. And I have talked to Frank about the composition like I have talked to a lot of departments about the composition of the department and , that effort to try to increase the minority participa- :V tion. Mr. Plummer; Well, let me tell you, just so you're new and you'll know. What this Commission has done in the past, you'd better be aware that if you're not that aware, that what we've done in the past is we've put an absolute freeze on all hiring and made you come before the Commission and justify each posi- tion. You don't want that, we don't like to do that but if that is the only way we can get accomplished what is necessary then we're going to do it. So •`, you'd better be aware that if you're not listening to what is being said that ° that is what it is going to come down to. we don't want to do it but in some cases we have had to do it. _Okay? That's not just in this Department, I'm speaking across the board. You can turn that camera off now. Tell me the three most significant things you have accomplished this year and the three ' <' most significant things you hope toaccomplishnext year. az Mr. Castaneda; The most significant accomplishment this year is that we have worked very .... Mr. Plummer; Other than you becoming the Department head. Castaneda; We have Worked very actively in the Urban Development Action "{ Grant Program and we were successful in obtaining a $6 oOOOoOOQ UDAG for hayslde, we were successful in obtaining a $615,00Q UpAG for the Congress Building: We are actively monitoring the Airport Seven construction which l would like to asy it Will be finished is approximately 2 months. In addition , to that, we have been working with the Office of Overtowu/park West in a $121000,4QQ VDAQ that bag been 00mi.tted for that project and it is presenily Wing reviewed in HUD. S38nificaatly. we, have also done tremendous progrema Y ,r in the houoing areua, You took me by surpriee with this meetjua, I thought l Was Oing to giye yao 4 mqp ahowiag where all we have produced the houeing, y { RR ZIT 49 / @ A s This year We have financed 108 single faihify homes And We have finahced 599 multi$fatily homes which is very successful With the complete hiring, ir2 the single family divibidh to are expecti.flg, t6 increase the pr6dudti.vity 6f single family liahs to appro date y 250. th our pr6grals ve re very stt,ohg in hiring minority d6htf-act,fs. 90% bf the cohtractors involved it single and ' multi=taitijy rehab idle mih6ritiess AppTbkirlately 45� black and 45� Hispahi.c, Mr. Plunder: that do y6u hope to hdditplis'r: Ctrs cortifig year? the three Lost — aighifdaht things, t b. Mr. Castahedat What vie hope to accomplish in the 66iaing year is to increase our output it single and multi -family to-h9b. We have plant for the redevel= opment bf the Cerm City Area fir the king Heights Area and the East tittle HAVAha Area, The 06=ib$i6h allocated a tillioh dollars for each project; we expect to carry those three projects to fruition, We are now also very much involved in the GoMmunity based orgatiizatiohs and we ate really trying to make an impact in the eftfaunity both from the commercial revitalikaticn area as Well as to assisting minority businesses stay in place, Mr. Plummer; Let one ash: you a question, You dropped in your operating expenses from 676 to 394. Is that another sneaky Pete by the Budget Depart= Mont or was itt in fact, a savings? Mr. Surana: The Budget Office. Mr. Plummer. A Sneaky Pete, Mr. Surana: yes. Mr, Plummer-. Is there anything that you asked for in your budget that you didn't get? Mr. Castaneda Noi the Manager was very kind, Mr. Pereiras What? that's not what you said when I got through with you. Mr. Castaneda: That's what you told me to say, before coming here. Mr. Dawkins: Mr. Manager and Mr. Castaneda, there is a piece of property on N.W. 7th Street and 58th Avenue on which a Dr. Simpson and Senator Claude Pepper were desirous of building a hospital. 7th Avenue and 58th Street. ' Mr. Pereira: The old Shell City. Mr. Dawkins: That's right. Now, I have gotten it through the grapevine that the City of Miami is contemplating utilizing that land for housing. I will be bringing a pocket item before the Commission on Thursday making a recommenda- tion that the City of Miami find some minority group to apply for UDAG Indus- trial Bonds or whatever it is to put a business building there on a commercial strip instead of housing. 7th Avenue corridor is a commercial strip of land. It is not single family housing and we should not permit anybody to put any housing on 7th Avenue especially on the old Shell City site where you could "'. put a business. Mr. Pereira: I don't know about the rumor, but if I recall, when the site `. plans for that particular location when I was with the County called for mixed ` use and it was commercial all along 7th and there were some townhouses but a" towards the east end of the property away from the commercial strip ... p P Y P ;f Mr, Dawkins; Well, if you're ,going to pout them on the east side you must plan to pout them on 95 because east of the project is I-95. You've got from yyyy_' 4 6th Avenue to 7th Avenue, it is commercial property. Mr, Plummer That"a where you've sot those luxurious apartments there. L, Mr, Dawkins; Now watcb that now, With the multi -colors? Mr, Fiummm Tog • AT W n Mt, bawkihs: But 1 just *anted t5 alert you, hhd I Uy hot get the three votes but I will be suggetting this oh thufsday, Mrt Ceataheda! Commissioher, ih that apecific pfoject 1 Mould like to Flake a word that Peppet's office is still trying to get the C014 back and they are plahhing to go Back to boards in October in 6rder to 'accomplish that acid I just yz a t • be aware of that: Mr. hawkih§t Mr. Oastaneday just like you and I tried to explaih to Claude Peppetx, a h6tr tag. trill go on that site it it is a nuclear hospital or a hospital using any new medicine Where an individual who heeded t'adio=active nuclear medidi.he for cancer or whatever", they would d6rhe there and it Would } have to be a traihing hospital where Minorities both black and tatin5 who 6ghn6t get iht3 these Harvards and Ether schools to study could come aril do their internship. Now, I will help the 8enat5r posh this; I will get out in the d6ftaunity. But dust to put a hospital when we've got 1- what is the vacancy fate on hospitals in bade County) bed rate'? Mr. Castaneda: it is about 50%. Mr. bawkinst We've got 50)'b* now so we can't put another hospital to add to the bed vacancy. But to put a teaching hospital to offer a ape ial service, I would work with him and I will call him tomorrow and you call him too; Frank and tell hilt we'll come back up and diacuss that with hits if he is..►.. (AT THIS POINT` THE RECORDIN(I SYSTEM MALFUNCTIONED FOR APPROXIKATELY ONE MINUTE). Mr. Castaneda: ....that is that recipients of loans from our Department for rehab, either single family or multi -family are using 90% minority contract tors. Mr. Plummer% Commissioner Dawkins, do you have any further questions? Mr. Dawkins: No, sir. Mr. Plummer: Thank you, sir. Mr. Castaneda: I'd like to say you also were very kind. Mr. Plummer; Who is next? Mr. Pereira: Human Resources. Mr. Dawkins: Oh, that is Mrs. Bellamy. Did Mrs. Bellamy get an official letter as a director? Because I asked her daddy, he didn't know nothing about it. Isn't she supposed to be the director of Human Resources? F Mr. Pereira: The Acting Director. Mr. Dawkins: You toldmeyou had promoted her. Well, you tell your daddy he is right, Mrs. Bellamy, I lied. Mr. Plummer; Would you put up on the screen first of all the make-up of your Department as it relates to personnel. You've got 38 people plus 2 part time. Mrs, Angela Bellamy; commissioner, there are 38 positions but there are two vacancies in the Department. Mr. Plummer; Okay, that'a fine, gust leave it up there for a minute and let it be loo4ed over, You heard the questions before, right? Kra, Pe114my; I'm sorry, I didn't, I just walked iA. Mr, Plummer; We're goia4 to ssk you what are the three significant thiu4s you've done for this yosr, what are the three scot aigaificnat that you hope to aocosplisb seat year aaal what did the dirty Manager cheat you out of that you aok ed for. RT 51 9/9/135 Mrs Dawkins: What i§ the ethhi-- breakd6wh Wd all of those up there) Mast $el aihY0 Mrs, tellarny; We have 6% Ang 6 in the Departitent of Human Resources) 40% black and 515% Rispanic: Mr, DaWkitis: Of the... Where would the break 6ff in salary structure d6be up there, under Assistant Personnel Manager 6t would it 06:te down uhdek pers6hhe adinhistrat6r ..+« Mrs plummet`: is it significant that a lady put that up and that it is in pink? Mr. Pereira! it looks nice. Mr. D&wkins: Do you see how you throw me a curve) Mr. Manager? You don't her in nothing, she's not the Director or Assistant Director. Mrs, Bellamy: It is shown under Director. Mr. Dawkins: Where? Okay. Now is she or is she not? Mr. Pereira: She's acting. Mrs. Bellamy: We didn't have a category of Acting Director. Mr. Dawkins: Are you the Manager? Mrs. Bellamy, are you the Manager? Mrs. Bellamy: No. Mr, Dawkins: Let the Manager defend himself now. Mr. Pereira: She is the Acting Director, for all intents and purposes you saw here there as the Director because we have no Director other than her. Mr. Plummer How long have you been an Acting Director? Mrs. Bellamy: Since October of '84. I've been acting in the capacity of Acting Director since October of '84. I officially became Acting Director in December of '84. Mr. Plummer: So then the only thing that says is that you're a good actress. Mr. Dawkins: Okay. Of the total employees, you broke that down already, right? And who are the others? That's Mr. Brooks and who else other? Mrs. Bellamy: we have one other and that is 3% and that one other is orien- tal. Mr. Dawkins: Okay, go ahead. The Commissioner has three questions. Mr. Plummer: No, I don't, the Mayor does. What three things have you accom- plished this past year and what three things are you going to accomplish next year? Mrs. Bellamy; For the first time in the history of the City of Miami, we have now a computerized personnel system, Now, it computerized in the sense that we no longer have hand posted cardexes. We are now coming into the 21at Century. So one of the most significant accomplishments would be the com- puterization project within the Department of Human Resources We hope to be able to, so far it has been a project that only we can realise, we and the staff department can ace a significant difference but within the next year we hope that the other departments will be able to see a big difference in the City. ,(mother accomplishment has been in the area of testing. For the first time, we had any"Assessment Center which is a big "accomplishment for the city of Miami, it is state of the art, we have had some concern, some questions raised but it was a very professional system. The other significant achieve= meat would be the processing of paper work. We ,have been able t4 pracesa dosbls, we have been able to procoas poperwork in such a way that we have i40 raa@ed the oapacity to respond to the Department, the City Departments, NT/� s VIrs Pluf'imef! Was it a boy of a girl? Mrs, $ellamy: toy. MV4 Plu eN Thatis not a aigf:if cant accomplishment? Mrs, teilaty: Oh; 34t' course. 5 Mr, PluNbert. Okay. What are the three things you hope to accoifiplish this year? Mrs, Bellamy! I've already stated that we would like to be able to have City Departlents realize the impact of the Cotputerigation Project and by that I Mean we will be able to furnish paper work, processing of 922's, 925'8 in such a way that paper work can be speeded up in the City of Miami. We'll be able to fuhdtion in a way that is more efficient. Alto, we do hope to have addi= tional assessment centers within the promotional ranks and we're in the process of planning those now. We have also planned to have a predictive validity study for the Police Department for the rank of Police Officer, Mr. Plummer: Are you doing the recruitment for the Police Department? Mrs. Bellamy: yes, we are. Mr. Plummer: Are you doing the testing? Mrs. Bellamy: Yes. Mr. Plummer: Why does the Police Department then have a great deal of money dedicated to recruit? Mrs. Bellamy: The Police Department has always paid for their advertising budget in prior years and, in fact, this year we found that we have had, := because we have had target recruitment there has been a need to ask for additional money in advertising so the Police Department has always furnished r ..♦ that. Mr. Plummer: Commissioner Dawkins, further questions? Mr. Dawkins: Why is it that the Police Department recruited 644 persons and only hired 51 of them? Mrs. Bellamy: Commissioner, which position are you talking of? >: Mr. Dawkins: Entry. Wait a minute, hold on because you weren't here. . Mr. Plummer: It is about 16 to 1. �µ Mr. Dawkins. It says here, one of the significant accomplishments of our Department, screened 644 applicants for positions within the Police Department and accepted 51 during the first six months. Now, what was the main thing that threw everybody out of ... First I need to know how much did it cost to Y screen 644 applicants, Mrs. Bellamy: Commissioner, I'm sorry, I can't give you that figure now. I'd like to furnish it to you later on to give you an accurate figure, but when they say screened they are talking about the backgrounds procedure. We recruit Police Officers then we give an examination. From there they are furnished to the Police Department and then they have backgrounds for each of those people who we have furnished. Now, I believe what they're saying, and I emu; haven't seen this information, is that out of the referrals that we sent to . .'.. them, they're telling you the number that went from the screening process that KN passed their background. i Xr, Dawkinst Okay, then when you to 644 people and they showed that they had the academic ability to become policemeu, you did not do anything else to determine, I moan at that point no one di.4 a background check or nothing on them to see tb4t we'd be wasting money? v 14rs� Dellamy; No the background occurs after the test, after the physical agility test and during the background, what they actually do is go to the av ghbor:s, they talk with then, find out wh$t 444 of person the applicant ia. ti they also go to their previous employersi they check to see if they have had ,tti any drug backgfouhi but we don`t find that ihfoftation out once we're screeh= ing Mr, Plummert Does the Police bepartmeht do that or do you. Mrs, he avy t he Police !)epatlutent a Mr, Pluwtr° How lahy p6licemeh are assigned doing that'., Sworn Officers, Mrs, Bellatyt We doni t have any ... Oh, for the backgfbuhd uhit? Vt sorry, I doh't ktlow,l can't ailswer that, Mrs Pereira: About 10 or 12, Mr, PluMert Sixteen, flow you justify that to pie, By the Way, does any other department have the right to do that? Mrs, hellamyt The Aire Department, Mr. Plummer! They do a background check? Mrs. Bellamy: Yes, Mr. Dawkinst Okay, I asked the Police Department so I want to ask you. Find out for Me, of the 644 people who were turned down how many were Latin, how many Were Black and What did We reject them for. j. Mr. Plu=er,. I think you're going to _find, and Mr. Manager, this is for your information, you're going to find that most of them that failed in the back #.; ground check is some skeletons in their closet. It might amaze you to know =_ that we go through a tremendous process prior to that and spend beaucoup dollars where that, if it were done first, they would not go through the regular checks. I have, for years, of the people that were rejected, have followed the fact that whatever their reasons for being rejected, and I'm not ., arguing that point now, but it usually is in the background area that we go through the physical agility, we go through the psychological testing, we go through all of that when most of them are bailed out for background. I'm saying that when the day comes that you do the background you're going to save an awful lot of money because you don't have to do the other. Okay? It is an area to look into. I guess he has no more questions by his exit. Do you have any questions? Thank you. All right, so, Mr. Manager, tell me what the schedule is for tomorrow, Mr. Pereira:- The schedule for tomorrow is that we'll reconvene at 1:00 P.M. air. r, Mr. Plummer: Okay. Well, Mr. Manager, excuse me. From what I'm looking at I ` think we're looking at Solid Waste as being important, Building and vehicle Maintenance and Parks. Sir, I'm going to tell you that with a little bit of '• luck, if we start at 1100 O-'Clock tomorrow we can get finished tomorrow. I'm talking about just in an afternoon session. Mr. Pereira. Bring everybody in tomorrow, , Mr. Plummert if you get these people before they come in here to out down on . that dog and Pony show I think that you're going to be in great shape. Mr. Pereira; We'll bring them sill. We'll do Finance and Civil. Service first tF� . at 1;00 and then at 2tOQ we'll start with Solid Waste. 3� f a s v �4//8� S k