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MINUTES OF REGULAR MEETING
CITY COMMISSION OF MIAMI, FLORIDA
OCTOBER 23, 1986
ITEM SUBJECT LEGISLATION PAGE
NO. NO.
1. PRESENTATIONS, PROCLAMATIONS AND PRESENTED 1
SPECIAL ITEMS.
10/23/86
2.
BANK DEPOSITORIES REFUSAL TO FUND
DISCUSSION
1-2
LIBERTY CITY PROJECTS.
10/23/86
3.
DISCUSSION AND TEMPORARY DEFERRAL OF
DISCUSSION
2-3
REQUEST FOR CHANGE OF ZONING AT 4234
10/23/86
AND 4244 N.W. 2ND STREET (REPUBLIC
NATIONAL BANK)
4.
MIRACLE CENTER PROJECT - MAJOR USE
R-86-834
4-21
SPECIAL PERMITS.
10/23/86
5.
PLAT ACCEPTANCE: "MIRACLE CENTER.
R-86-835
21-22
(S.W. 22 ST. AND S.W. WE AVE.)
10/23/86
6.
GRANT FUNDING FOR "SECOND ANNUAL
M-86-836
22-24
CONFERENCE OF CIVILIAN OVERSIGHT OF
10/23/86
LAW ENFORCEMENT."
7.
ACCEPT POLICY DEPARTMENT REPORT ON
M-86-837
24-29
RICKSHAW OPERATIONS - INSTRUCT
10/23/86
ATTORNEY TO DRAFT REGULATORY
ORDINANCE.
8.
GRANT FUNDING FOR ALLAPATTAH
M-86-838
29-31
MERCHANTS' ASSOCIATION'S FAIR.
10/23/86
9.
GRANT REQUEST FROM THE "MUNICIPIOS
R-86-839
31-32
FAIR" TO SELL BEER AND WINE AT
10/23/86
ROBERT KING HIGH - ADD SAID PARK TO
MANAGER'S SALE DISCRETION LIST.
10.
IMPLEMENT CITY SPONSORED SCATTERED
R-86-840
32-33
SITE AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT
10/23/86
PROGRAM.
11.
EMERGENCY ORDINANCE: AUTHORIZE
ORDINANCE
34-35
ISSUANCE OF SPECIAL OBLIGATION
10165
BONDS - SERIES 1986A - $4,290,000.
10/23/86
(THESE BONDS TO BE USED TO BUILD
SCATTERED HOUSING)
12.
RATIFY ALLOCATION IN SUPPORT OF
R-86-841
35-36
EFFORT TO SECURE BASKETBALL
10/23/86
FRANCHISE FROM N.B.A.
13.
USE OF THE WORD "MIAMI HEAT" IN NAME
M-86-842
36-37
OF THE N.B.A. FRANCHISE TEAM. (LATER
10/23/86
FORMALIZED BY RES. 86-866.)
14.
ACCEPT CITY AUDIT REGARDING CASINO
M-86-843
37-39
ESPANOL.
10/23/86
15. POSTPONE RECONSIDERATION OF POST
OFFICE PROJECT.
16. ALLOW FIREWORKS DISPLAY AT FLAGLER
DOG TRACK (INTERNATIONAL CLASSIC)
17. FUND BETHUNE COOKMAN ORANGE BOWL
COLLEGE FOOTBALL GAME.
18. ORANGE BOWL COMMITTEE APPOINTMENT
(APPOINT JIPi ARMSTRONG TO REPLACE
ERNIE SILER)
19. DEMOLISH UNSAFE STRUCTURES
THROUGHOUT CITY.
20. DISCUSSION] CONCERNING BID AWARD FOR
MEALS TO DAY CARE AND PRESCHOOL
PROGRAMS - DIRECT MANAGER TO AWARD
TO SECOND LOWEST BIDDER.
21. CONSENT AGENDA.
21.1 APPROVE TRANSMITTAL TO SOUTH FLORIDA
REGIONAL PLANNING COUNCIL FOR
APPLICATION FOR APPROVAL FOR
DOWNTOWN MIAMI AS A DRI.
21.2 ALLOCATING $30,000 FROM SPECIAL
PROGRAMS AND ACCOUNTS FUND FOR FEE
INCREASES FOR D.R.I. APPLICATION TO
SO. FLA. REGIONAL PLANNING COUNCIL.
21.3 AUTHORIZE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER
AGREEMENT WITH LOURDES SLAYZK FOR
PROFESSIONAL PLANNING SERVICES,
DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND DRI
$21,257.
21.4 AUTHORIZE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE
AGREEMENT BETWEEN CITY OF MIAMI AND
METRO FOR SALE OF EXCESS FILL
MATERIAL ON VIRGINIA KEY AT $2.00
PER CUBIC YARD.
21.5 APPROVING MOST QUALIFIED FIRMS TO
PROVIDE PLANNING AND DESIGN
SERVICES FOR COCONUT GROVE
EXHIBITION CENTER RENOVATION AND
NEGOTIATE WITH SAME.
21.6 AUTHORIZE CITY MANAGER TO ACCEPT
AMMUNITION DONATION FROM BANK
SYSTEMS AND EQUIPMENT CORP. FOR
POLICE TRAINING.
21.7 APPROVE TWO YEAR EXTENSION OF
AGREEMENT BETWEEN CITY AND BUS
BENCHES CO.
21.8 AUTHORIZE SETTLEMENT IN
CONDEMNATIONS PROCEEDINGS IN
ACQUISITION OF LAND PARCEL 44-E
AUTHORIZING CITY MANAGER TO PAY
ADDITIONAL $355,655.
21.9 AUTHORIZE CITY MANAGER AND CITY
ATTORNEY IN TAKING LEGAL ACTION TO
REMOVE BETTE AND BERT BAYFRONT 66
MARINA, INC. FROM WATSON ISLAND.
M-86-844
10/23/86
R-86-845
10i23/86
R-86-846
10/23/86
DISCUSSION
10/23/86
M-86-847
10/23/86
M-86-848
10/23/86
10/23/86
R-86-849
10/23/86
R-86-850
10/23/86
R-86-851
10/23/86
R-86-852
10/23/86
R-86-853
10/23/86
R-86-854
10/23/86
R-86-855
10/23/86
R-86-856
10/23/86
R-86-857
10/23/86
40-41
41
48-51
51
52-55
55-6
67=68
68-
69
69
69
Cam1
70
70
70
70
0
22.
TERMINATE LEASE AGREEMENT WITH
R-86-858
1
AMERICAN BARGE CLUB, INC., AT
10/23/86
VIRGINIA KEY.
23.
NEGOTIATE WITH MIAMI MUNDIAL, INC. —
R-86-859
76-82
USE OPANGF BOWL STADIUM FOR
10/23/86
INTERNATIONAL SOCCER EVENTS.
24.
ADOPT "S.W. 277H AVENUE - A GATEAWAY
R-86-860
82=06
TO COCONUT GPOVE: A PLANNING STUDY
10/23/86
OF DEVELOPME14T AND TPAFFIC IMPACTS.
25.
SECOND READIIJG OPDINAIICE: AMEND
ORDINANCE
99-100
MIAMI COMPRE.HE1dSIVE NEIGHBORHOOD
10166
PLAN — CHANGE ZONING DESIG14ATIONS OF
10/23/86
CERTAIN AREAS 114 COCONUT GROVE.
26.
SECOND READING ORDINANCE: ADOPT
ORDINANCE
100-106
MIAMI COMPREHENSIVE 1EIGHBORHOOD
10167
_
PLAN (9-65) WHICH AMENDS EXISTING
10/23/86
PLAN (1976-1986)
27.A
SECOND READING ORDINANCE: AMEND
ORDINANCE
107-113
MIAMI COMPREHENSIVE NEIGHBORHOOD
10168
PLAN CHANGE DESIGNATIO14 OF PROPERTY
10/23/86
AT 3427-3523 S.W. 22 TERRACE
(APPLICANT: KAITUMA PROPERTIES,
_
N.V.)
27.B
FIRST READING ORDINANCE: AMEND
FIRST
107-113
MIAMI COMPREHENSIVE NEIGHBORHOOD
READING
PLAN — CHANGE DESIGNATION OF
10/23/86
PROPERTY AT 3427-3523 S.W. 22
TERRACE (APPLICANT: KAITUMA
PROPERTIES, N.V.)
28.
SECOND READING ORDINANCE: ZONING
ORDINANCE
114
ATLAS AMENDMENT AT 3427-3523
10169
-
SOUTHWEST 22ND TERRACE. (APPLICANT:
10/23/86
KAITUMA PROPERTIES, N.V.)
29.
(A) SECOND READING ORDINANCE: AMEND
ORDINANCE
115-117
MIAMI COMPREHENSIVE NEIGHBORHOOD
10170
PLAN AT 3591 S.W. 22ND TERRACE
FIRST
(APPLICANT: KAUFMAN AND ROBERTS) (B)
READING
FIRST READING ORDINANCE: AMEND MIAMI
10/23/86
COMPREHENSIVE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN AT
3591 S.W. 22ND TERRACE (APPLICANT:
—
KAUFMAN AND ROBERTS).
30.
SECOND READING ORDINANCE: ZONING
ORDINANCE
117
ATLAS AMENDMENT AT 3591 S.W. 22ND
10171
TERRACE — FROM RG-1/3 TO CR-3/7
10/23/86
(APPLICANT: KAUFMAN AND ROBERTS).
31.
AGREE TO RECONSIDER, AT NEXT
M-86-861
118-120
COMMISSION MEETING, ISSUE CONCERNING
10/23/86
BID AWARD FOR PROVIDING MEALS TO DAY
CARE AND PRESCHOOL PROGRAMS.
_
32.
SECOND READING ORDINANCE: ORDINANCE
ORDINANCE
120-121
9500 ATLAS CHANGE AT APPROXIMATELY
10172
'
2564-2574 S.W. 27TH LANE, FROM RS—
10/23/86
2/2 TO RO-1/4 (APPLICANT: NANCYE
MOYNAHAN, ET AL.)
33.
SECOND READING ORDINANCE: ORDINANCE
M-86-862
121-123
9500 ATLAS CHANGE AT APPROXIMATELY
ORDINANCE
1544-1636 BRICKELL AVENUE, FROM RG—
10173
2.1/3.3 TO RG-2.1/5 MAINTAINING SPI—
10/23/86
4 BRICKELL AREA MAJOR STREETS
OVERLAY DISTRICT.
14. HCOND READING ORDINANCE: ORDINANCE ORDINANCE
9500 TEXT AMENDMENT — AMEND SECTION 10174
3205, ARTICLE 32 BY PROVIDING THAT 10/23/86
PERSONS AGGRIEVED BY LAND DECISIONS
MAY FILE AFFEAL.
35. FIRST READING ORDINANCE: AMEND
ORDINANCE 9500, ARTICLE 30, SECTION
3004 — DESIGNATE PLANNING AND ZONING
BOARDS ADMINISTRATION AS THE AGENCY
TO SET DATE FOR HEARING OF AN
APPEAL.
36. DENY APPEAL BY OBJECTOR: REVIEW
SPECIAL EXCEPTION BY ZONING BOARD
REGARDING PAN AMERICAN HOSPITAL.
37. DIRECT PLANNING DEPARTMENT TO STUDY
AND RECOMMEND Old POSSIBLE
ELIMINATION OF ALL TRA14SITIONAL
USES.
38. SECOND READING ORDINANCE: ORDINANCE
9500 ATLAS CHANGE FOR RG-1/3 TO CR-
2/7 AT APPROXIMATELY 4220, 4234 AND
4244 N.W. 2ND STREET AND AT
APPROXIMATELY 4225 N.W.1ST STREET
(APPLICANT REPUBLIC NATIONAL BANK OF
MIAMI)
39. REQUIRE FULL DISCLOSURE AND
BACKGROUND CHECK OF ALI. ENTITIES
NEGOTIATING WITH THE CITY FOR
GRANTING OF CITY LEASES.
40. RECOMMEND THAT NEW PROFESSIONAL
BASKETBALI. TEAM CHANGE ITS NAME TO
MIAMI HEAT.
41. FIRST READING ORDINANCE: AMEND
SECTION OF ORDINANCE 10087, CLARIFY
DEFINITION OF LOBBYIST, ETC.
42. FIRST READING ORDINANCE: PROCEED
CODE CHAPTER 54, ARTICLE VI
("SIDEWALK CAFES") AT NEW AREAS
UNDER CAFE ZONES; AMEND STANDARDS
AND CRITERIA FOR APPLICATION
REVIEW.
43. URGE COMPANY TO GUARANTEE BAYSIDE
SPECIALTY CENTER RETAIL PARCEL
RENTAL REVENUE AS A PLEDGE FOR CITY
REVENUE BONDS.
44. FIRST READING ORDINANCE: PROVIDE
THAT ACTIONS OF THE CITY COMMISSION
SHALL NOT BE THE SUBJECT OF A
MOTION TO RECONSIDER UNLESS MOTION
MADE AT THE NEXT SCHEDULED
COMMISSION MEETING.
45. APPROVE OMNI AREA REDEVELOPMENT
PLAN.
46. ACCEPT SENIOR CITIZENS SPECIALIZED
POLICING PROGRAM GRANT — ALLOCATE
FUNDS FROM LAW ENFORCEMENT GRANT
FUND AS MATCHING FUNDS TO IMPLEMENT
PROGRAM (SEE LABELS 49 AND 51).
FIRST
READING
10/23/86
R-86-863
10/23/86
M-86-864
10/23 /86
ORDTNANCE
10175
10/23/86
M-86-865
10/23/86
R-86-866
10/23/86
FIRST
READING
10/23/86
FIRST
READING
10/23/86
R-86-867
10/23/86
FIRST
READING
10/23/86
R-86-868
10/23/86
R-86-869
10/23/86
12I=124
124-125
125-139
139-140
140-141
141-142
143
143-145
145-146
146-147
147-149
149-154
154-156
i t -
41.
$MERGENCY
ORDINANCE: ESTABLISH NEW
ORDINANCE
156=15i
SPECIAL
REVENUE FUND ENTITLED
10176
"SENIOR
CITIZENS'S SPECIALIZED
10/23/86
POLICY PROGRAM.
48.
SETTLEMF14T IN CONDEMNATION
R-86-870
157-158
PROCEEDINGS FOR ACQUISITION OF
10/23/86
ARENA SITE. PARCEL.
49.
CONTINUED
DISCUSSION AND TEMPORARY
DISCUSSION
158-159
DEFERRAL
OF ISSUE CONCERNING SENIOR
10/23/86
CITIZENS
SPECIALIZED POLICING
PROGRAM.
(SEE LABEL 051).
50.
REAPPOINT
A ME14BER TO BOARD OF
R-86-871
159m160
TRUSTEES
OF THE CITY OF MIAMI
10/23/86
GENERAL
EMPLOYEES AND SANITATION
EMPLOYEES
RETIREMENT TRUST.
51.
CONTINUED
DISCUSSION IN CONNECTION
DISCUSSION
160-161
WITH THE
SENIOR CITIZENS SPECIALIZED
10/23/86
POLICING
PROGRAM. (SEE LABELS 46 AND
49).
2iIV
MINUTES OF REGULAR MEETING OF THE
CITY COMMISSION OF MIAMI, FLORIDA
On the 23rd day of October, 1986, the City Commission of Miami, Florida,
met at its regular meeting place in the City Hall, 3500 Pan American Drive,
Miami, Florida in regular session.
The meeting was called to order at 2:09 o'clock P.M. by Mayor Xavier
Suarez with the following members of the Commission found to be present:
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor Miller J. Dawkins
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
ALSO PRESENT:
Cesar Odio, City Manager
Lucia Allen Dougherty, City Attorney
Matty Hirai, City Clerk
An invocation was delivered by Mayor Suarez who then led those present
in a pledge of allegiance to the flag.
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1. PRESENTATIONS, PROCLAMATIONS AND SPECIAL ITEMS.
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COMMENDATIONS: To OFFICERS EUGENE EDWARDS AND FILBERTO ARROYO for having
been selected Most Outstanding Officers of the Month for
August 1986.
2. BANK DEPOSITORIES REFUSAL TO FUND LIBERTY CITY PROJECTS.
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Mr. Dawkins: Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Suarez: Commissioner Dawkins?
Mr. Dawkins: I have a point of information I'd like to bring before the
Commissioners. For some reason, the banks are refusing to fund projects in
i.e., the Black community, Overtown, and what have you, and I am going to be
sending in a request for the next Commission meeting that banks do not require
to participate with the City of Miami, that we take all funds out of those
banks, and put it into banks that do. I am going to read a list here, just for
information. We have $14,000,000 in the Capital Bank, $19,000,000 in
Intercontinental Bank, $17,000,000 in Glendale Federal, and the rest... we
have got $72,000,000 in banks, and if they are not desirous of funding
projects that we need in our area, then we should not be putting the City of
Miami's money in it, and I will be bringing that to the Commission at the next
meeting.
Mayor Suarez: I have been looking at the same issue. I am very concerned
about it, Commissioner, I am glad you are bringing it up and it will aired
fully, at the very next Commission meeting?
Mr. Dawkins: Yes, sir.
1 October 23, 1986
Mayor Suarez: I've talked to some people in the community who have been doing
business for many years successfully in certain areas of. the City, and now all
of a sudden find that despite an excellent track record, they can't get
financing for the same projects that they have been getting financing for many
years, and that have been very successful, and it coincides with predominantly
Black areas of the City.
Mr. Dawkins: Thank you.
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3. DISCUSSION AND TEMPORARY DEFERRAL OF REQUEST FOR CHANGE OF ZONING AT 4234
AND 4244 N.W. 2ND STREET (REPUBLIC NATIONAL BANK)
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Mayor Suarez: Planning and Zoning item one?
Mr. Olmedillo: Good afternoon, Mr. Mayor, Commissioners. For the record,
Guillermo Olmedillo, Planning Department. The item before you is a zoning
change from RG-•1/3 to CR-2/7. It is a second reading. This is located just
north of Flagler Street on 42nd Avenue. The applicant owns property fronting
on 42nd Avenue. This is the Republic National Bank. They have proffered a
covenant by which they addressed the concerns of the Planning Department,
mainly that there should be a buffer between this property and the school, and
this property and the northern portion of the area, which is residential in —
nature. The...
Mayor Suarez: This is a second reading? Let me just clarify, if there is
anyone from the audience that wishes to be heard against the granting of this
application? Let the record reflect that no one stepped forward.
Mr. Plummer: Do we have a copy of the covenant? Do we, the Commission, have
a copy of the covenant?
Mr. Olmedillo: No, sir.
Mr. Plummer: Well, that is foolish. Excuse me, I mean, we are the ones that
are going to vote, and we don't have a covenant before us to know what we are
voting on. Maybe I am out of place, but it seems a little strange to me. I
move that this item be deferred.
Mr. Dawkins: Second.
Mrs. Kennedy: Yes, on that basis, I second too.
Mr. Plummer: I am sorry Bob, but I can't vote on this. Now, if you want to
wait, maybe we can handle it later this evening. I will, but I can't vote on
something I haven't even seen the covenant.
Mrs. Kennedy: Why is that, Bob?
Mr. Plummer: It is unfair to ask me. No, it is not his fault.
Mr. Dawkins: It is not his fault, it is over here ...
Mr. Plummer: There is the fault. They are the ones I assume received the
covenant, and they didn't forward it to us. When did you receive it?
Mr. Olmedillo: Yesterday.
Mr. Plummer: Then it is your fault also.
Mr. Robert H. Traurig: Yes, he is absolutely right, Commissioner. We didn't
send a copy of the executed covenant to him until yesterday. We will make —
copies and distribute them during a break today, or during any other period
you have an opportunity to look at it.
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2 October 23, 1986
NOTE FOR THE RECORD: Commissioner Caroll.o entered the meeting at 2:15 P.M.
Mr. Plummer: If you went to be heard at the end of the agenda, I will be glad
to, if I heve had the time to read it., but without that, I just can't vote on
this item.
Mr. Traur3g: That's fine, thank you.
Mayor Suarez: We have to defer that to a particular time, do we not?
Mr. Plummer: Yes, the end of the agenda.
Mayor Suarez: Oh, OK. We are going to try to consider it later on today?
Mr. Plummer: Sometime before 8:59 p.m.
Mayor Suarez: We are really tabling the item. Oh, it has got to be before
7:59 p.m. The game is at 8:00 p.m., isn't it?
Mr. Plummer: Is that the world series?
Mayor Suarez: Yes?
Mr. Rodriguez: It has to be heard before item PZ-6, which is the
comprehensive plan amendment.
Mr. Dawkins: When is PZ-6, sir?
Mr. Rodriguez: Comprehensive plan amendment.
Mr. Dawkins: Well, I am going to defer that anyway, so no problem.
Mr. Plummer: See how easy that is, Sergio?
Mayor Suarez: Both those items are tabled, may or may not be deferred to the
next Planning and. Zoning meeting. We will take them up later on in the
afternoon. Will you let us _snow, Commissioner Plummer, on one; Commissioner
Dawkins on the other. Item PZ-2.
Mr. Plummer: Well, excuse me, Mr. Mayor, I would hope that all members of
this Commission would like the opportunity to read that covenant too.
Mayor Suarez: Well, if staff tells us it incorporates the terms that
previously have been agreed to, I am satisfied personally, but you know, I
have no problems with you wanting to look over the document. It makes a lot
of sense to have it in advance of our meetings.
Mr. Plummer: It sure does. I think the Charter says five days, but I am not
invoking the rule.
Mr. Walter Piece: We have never given it. If you want that, we will be glad
to start it.
Mr. Plummer: Very definitely.
Mr. Pierce: We will do it in the future. We have never done it that way.
Mr. Plummer: Hey, one of the things we told them was, before them came back,
we wanted to see it.
Mr. Pierce: Yes, regardless, staff sees them. We will give them to you
in the future.
3 October 23, 1986
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4. MIRACLE CENTER PROJECT - MAJOR USE SPECIAL PERMITS.
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Mayor Suarez: PZ-2.
Mr. John Lefley: John Lefley, representing the Planning Department. The item
before you is a request for a major use special permit for the Miracle Center
Project., butbefore we go into the Department recommendations, there is one
change that has been requested by our Law Department. If you would turn to
the last page of the kit, of. page 107, it was condition 20, and at the end of
the first line, our Law Department is requesting the words, "within 30 days of
the issuance of the major use special. permit," as it relates to the recording
of the major use permit. Because the applicant will be going into detail. on
the specifics of the project, the Department would like to immediately go into
the recommendations. If you will look at the zoning map, you will see the
eastern border of the property is 33rd Avenue, S.W. 33rd Avenue. Our first
recommendation is that only right turns be permitted upon leaving the
building, either from the service road, or from the exits from the garage,
thus preventing any vehicular movement northward into the adjacent
neighborhood.
Mr. Plummer: Well, but the only way that you can do that is to have your
ingress and egress west of whatever that next street is.
Mr. Lefley: The applicant has agreed to make certain structural arrangements
of the exit portions of the building, so that cars could not turn. They also
have agreed to provide some kind of management, a parking management program,
which eventually would involve traffic... individuals directing traffic at
certain peak times.
Mr. Plummer: That don't work. If what you are saying, and I agree with you
that the traffic should only be able to go west on Coral Way, is what you are
saying.
Mr. Pierce: North, don't let it go north of that.
Mr. Plummer: Not north at 33rd.
Mr. Lefley: We do not want it to go north, only south when it leaves the
building on the east. Now, the next recommendation will go into your concerns
about whether it will or will not work.
Mr. Plummer: Have you asked the neighbors to the north about their question
about closing off the street?
Mr. Lefley: Yes, that has been discussed within the neighborhood, and I
believe that a representative of the homeowner's group that has been formed
will address you today on that specific issue.
Mr. Plummer: OK, assuming they are going to recommend it?
Mr. Lefley: They have some very specific recommendations.
Mr. Plummer: Hey look, this is going to parallel exactly the problem that
people behind Sears are having, OK? And that is, that all the employees are
going to be wanting to park up there and leave parking for clients. Now, I
don't know how you can protect those residents unless you close off that
street. Now, on the other hand, the residents might object because it gives
them less ingress and egress to Coral Way, but has the Department studied...?
Mr. Lefley: Yes.
Mr. Plummer: And is your recommendation to close or not to close?
Mr. Lefley: We have a rather complicated arrangement. I believe that the
homeowners will have an additional recommendation, which follows your general
thinking. Would you like me to proceed about the Department recommendation?
Mr. Plummer: Go ahead.
4 October 23, 1986
Mr. Lefley: What we suggest is that within one year of the issuance of the
major use special. permit, that an additional traffic study be made to
determine whether the traffic has impacted the adjacent neighborhood. If it
goes up 50 percent Above the currentvolume, or we can clock two vehicles per
minute on any of the m2ior streets in that. neighborhood, that then we would
recommend closing.
Mr. Flummrr: Excuse me, that is unacceptable to me. You are letting the
horse out. of barn, they ere in, and they are not going to be worried about it!
You either do what you are going to do before they get their application, or
you are whistling Dixie! Now, I think that the most logical thing, and I will
hear from the neighbors, is that thing ought to he closed. That will
guarantee them there will be no intrusion into the residential area by parking
or otherwise, I would have to listen to any objections if there are, that they
don't want the street closed because it denies access, but. I think the viable
alternative, is do it before they get their application. Now, that is my
opinion.
Mr. Rodriguez: Commissioner, but if I may, what we put in the condition was,
that the traffic study will be paid by the applicant, and the closing of the
street will be paid by the applicant if it has been proven...
Mr. Plummer: Yes, but you know, it just...
Mr. Rodriguez: There is an amount of money allocated for that in the letter
of credit.
Mr. Plummer: Fine, then do it before they get their permitl
Mr. Rodriguez: If you do that then, you may have problems... well, you have
to look at this issue more comprehensively, I guess.
Mr. Plummer: I am looking at the issue for 17 years of sitting in this seat.
Ms. Debbie Orshefsky: Commissioner Plummer, may I be recognized?
Mayor Suarez: Counselor, go ahead.
Ms. Orshefsky: My name is Debbie Orshefsky, I am the attorney for the
applicant.
Mr. Plummer: Are you a registered lobbyist?
Ms. Orshefsky: Yes, I am. For the record, so are the consultants who are
with me today. On the issue of the road closure, since we brought that up, I
thought that we might be able to resolve some of the concerns that you have.
We have been considering the road closure as an independent action from this
project and have spoken with the neighborhood about it. We have had a
representative from Coral Gate Homeowner's Association, their president, Mr.
Charles Hasseler is here this afternoon, and is going to explain, as I will,
the agreement that we have entered into with the homeowner's group to conduct
a joint effort over the next few months to bring before this Commission for
your consideration, the temporary closure of 33rd Avenue. The temporariness
of that and the timing is at the request of the homeowner's association. They
are not certain, whether they, as a community -wide, and I believe Mr. Hasseler
can confirm this, whether they want that road closed, but rather it is a
decision that they would like to study for some time and come before this
board at another time. They realize that whatever problems there may be on
33rd Avenue today, which makes them want to close it, may or may not be
exacerbated by our project, so that we have sort of two bites of the apple on
this one.
Mr. Plummer: Well, Debbie, that is fine, OK, but let me tell you where I am
at. I would close it, and then, if at any time, the neighbors want to come
back here and say, "Hey, we want to open to it," then listen to it that way.
I think that is more of a safeguard that I would feel a comfort with, of
protecting that neighborhood. Now, you can put up temporary barricades, if
that is what you want to do. I would rather go and barricade it off, then at
a later time, after everything is done, if the neighbors say, "Hey, we would
like to reconsider opening that barricade, we don't feel that is causing the
problems," let them come before the Commission, it and I would vote to do such
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immediately, but I just want the safeguards in before the horse gets out of
the barn.
Ms. Orshefsky: We have talked... the neighbors felt the same way, and we
certainly did, and have tried to structure the approvals that this board would
be giving, as well as the agreement. that we have with our neighbors within the
community, to take some action with respect to 33rd Avenue. 1 believe that it
would be appropriate for that potion to be taken some tirrr- in the future,
especially since the problems on 33rd, if tome are Fny, which our studies
really didn't indicate, but. the neighbors seem to think that there is one, are
not a direct effect, of this project, and we would like to be able to go
forward and seekk our approval relatively independent of thFt road closure
issue.
Mrs. Kennedy: Wasn't there a compromise with the neighbors of something to
the effect that $500 for landscaping, Sergio?
Mr. Lefley: Yes, at. the Planning Advisory Board meeting, the counsel for the
applicant offered $500 per lot, to the owners of all the lots facing along the
northern portion of the property, and that we included.
Ms. Orshefsky: We incorporated that within the major use special permit,
particularly...
Mr. Pierce: Mr. Mayor, if I may, it seems that we are jumping- OK, we ask to
let the Planning Department to proceed and then come back and we could kind of
keep it together.
Mayor Suarez: Yes, actually too, at one point we want to hear from the
neighbors, and I don't even know what neighbor's association it is. I presume
it's...
Ms. Orshefsky: Coral Gate Homeowner's Association.
Mr. Dawkins: It may not be necessary, because Commissioner Plummer says that
unless they are going to block the road off, he is not going to vote for the
project, and I feel the same way. Now, if there is another vote up here, and
they don't want to close the streets off, the project is dead.
Mr. Lefley: Commissioners, when I am through with my presentation, I'd like
you to listen to Mr. Campbell from Public Works. There are certain pros and
cons based on their experience with the closing of roads. That may shed some
more light on it.
Mayor Suarez: Proceed.
Mr. Lefley: The second part of this study item is that in the event the road
was closed, it would be the responsibility of the developer to landscape fully _
and pay for a cul-de-sac, or any other arrangement that might be required.
Prior to that time, he would be required to submit a letter of credit or a
bond for $50,000 for a period of running two years from the issuance of the
certificate of occupancy. The next recommendation is that it is absolutely
essential that we have a traffic signal light at Coral and 33rd Avenue. The
applicant has agreed to that, there is no problem. The next recommendation
involves the landscape buffer area along the northern edge of this property.
The Planning Department requested that the applicant consider 20 feet. That
would not include the relatively 20 feet of landscape buffering immediately
south of the property line. It was decided at the P.A.B. that they would
agree with the applicant for ten feet. That would include the wall, plus all
the landscaping. That is the only difference in any of the recommendations.
The next recommendation was that the owners would be responsible for perpetual
maintenance of the access easement and all landscaping on the site and within
the area that might be closed on 33rd Avenue. Second to last is that all
required parking under our code must be located within the structure and shall
be provided without charge. It would not preclude the use of the ticket
validation system, which is very common in this type of development. The final
recommendation of the Department is that loading hours, which would involve
all service trucks and all garbage trucks, that should occur only between the
hours of 7:00 a.m. and 5:00 p.m., definitely not during the evening hours.
That concludes the recommendation of the Planning Department. Thank you. ;
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Mr. Plummer: What sayeth the Department as to the Mall? What kind of wall,
how high...?
Mr. Lefley: An eight foot decorative masonry wall.
Mr. Plummer: Solid?
Mr. Lefley: Decorative could be something a little more elaborate than that,
but it would he submitted to the Department and it would be subject to our
approval.
Mr. Plummer: Solid walls to me, no, I don't like them.
Mr. Lefley: They are not....
Mr. Plummer: Solid walls knock down on your air availability, solid walls to
me are a concentration camp. I wouldn't want to live on the other side of a
solid wall.
Mayor. Suarez: Yes, at some point we want the neighbors to give us their input
on that, since there is no pending motion either way. Go ahead and complete
your presentation and have the president of the association, plus anyone who
is opposed to that particular agreement that you seemed to have carved out,
counselor.
Ms. Orshefsky: Again, for the record, my name is Debbie Orshefsky. I
represent the applicant. I am joined today by my partner, Robert Traurig, by
the developers for this project, Miracle Center Associates, whose principals
include Matthew Schoenberg, and Bernardo Fort, both of whom are here today.
Our traffic consultant on this project is David Plummer, and our landscape
architect is Albert Perez.
Mr. Plummer: For the record, please tell David Plummer is not related to J.
L. Plummer.
Ms. Orshefsky: For the record, David Plummer is not related to J. L. Plummer.
Mr. Dawkins: Nor does he want to bel
Mayor Suarez: For the record.
Mr. Plummer: Enough of you.
Mr. Pierce: Ask Debbie if she can swear to that.
Ms. Orshefsky: Before I walk you through the actual elements of the project,
I would like to know that this project, as designed, meets all the
requirements of the zoning code. There is no rezoning involved, there are no
variances or special exceptions required or requested. The project is a mixed
use development. It contains three principal elements, which are retail and
restaurant uses, including a health spa, movie theatre with a multi -screen
complex, and 138 residential units. The residential units are in the salmon
colored structure at the top. The site operation is that 33rd Avenue is here,
Coral Way, and then, there is a... that sort of just west of 34th Avenue. The
main entrances to the various components are on 33rd Avenue and then at the
center way at Coral Way. At 33rd Avenue, one would enter here, would come
into the parking garage structure there and go up to the parking garage, which
comprises approximately three and one/half levels of this project. They could
also enter at this location, which is an access drive going through the side
back through to Coral Way. Other entrances, there is a pedestrian entrance at
the center along Coral Way at approximately 34th Avenue, which was felt by the
Planning Department to facilitate the urban activity that would be going on
along Coral Way. At the west end of the property, is a drop off point, and
the entrance to the Movie theatre, so if you are coming to the movies for the
evening, you would pull in there, drop off your spouse go up through the road,
come around here, stay on the project, not have to go on to 33rd Avenue, and
enter into the parking garage, so that all trips, probably the major repeater
trip component here, the movie theatre, stays on the site. There is also
considerable concern about what it would be like on Friday night when the
movie theatre was emptying out. Although we have explained in various reports
in our presentations, to the persons involved in this, that there is a pattern
to the people leaving the movie theatre, we have also designed project so that
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exits from this parking garage will only be made onto 33rd Avenue in left
turns going into the neighborhood, assuming 33rd Avenue is not closed for
whatever reason, would be prohibited by a physical barrier, as well as by _
signage. They would be unable to make P left out of the garage, end at this
drive, they would likewise be unable to mF4e P left out of tha drive. Those
physicPl barriers, under the conditions of the major use sperial permit, will
be Ppproved ty the Public Wccrks Pepartment. Within the center, each of the
components is filij`s.trallj' integrated, access between Pll components, with the
exception of the residential units, is through lobbies Pnd elevators that make
you feel t.hPt you are in a. total development.. The apartment complex has its
own entrances, it.s own security elevators, Pnd P parking area will be
maintained exclusively for the apartment residents. This plan shows a basic
overlay of what our landscaping will be Like throughout the site. I think the
most critical Prep for everyone concerned has been along the northern
boundary, since there ere existing residences to the north. This graphic
depicts what. it would be like for the residences to the north, looking across
their backyard at the project.. At ground level, they would be seeing the
eight foot decorate masonry wall, and then above that, black olive trees that
we are required by tradition to be a minimum of 20 feet high. That is an
entrance a. -Pa, and there will be a variety of types of palm trees located
there. To give you a better sense of what it will. look like on 33rd Avenue,
this is a cut through a cross section of the landscaped area. The condition
that has been incorporated into the major use special permit regarding our
contribution to the homeowners to the north, is particularly for some of the
reasons that Commissioner Plummer was talking about. We had the same concern
that someone wouldn't want to be looking at a wall, and felt that people in
their own back yards would want to make their own decision as to what kind of
landscape treatment they would put along that wall, therefore, we offered, and
this was incorporated into the major use special permit as approved by the
P.A.B., to provide $500 to each of the homeowners per lot, to the north of the
project, so that they could decide for themselves what kind of landscape
treatment they wanted in their backyards. The northern buffer to the area has
been recommended by the P.A.B. to be a ten foot landscaped area perpetually
maintained. That landscaping would be the type of lush design that you see
here on this graphic. In addition to that landscaping, the actual distance
from the property line, our north property line, to the structure, any
structure to the north, is a minimum of 31 feet, because we have a 21 foot
wide access road, and at various portions, that buffer, the landscape buffer, _
is actually 15 feet, reducing to 10 feet at its end. A number of other design
features were incorporated into the project to minimize the impact of this
project upon its residents to the north. They include internalization of all
the loading docks, an enclosure of all the loading docks under roofs and
walls, with gates that would completely seal them off during operation, as
well as limitation on times of their operation. We have done the same type of
constraints with the trash compactors, which are designed so that they will
have minimal, if no impact on the odor toward the north of the project. As
Mr. Lefley indicated, the major use special permit conditions are as
recommended by the Planning Advisory Board, acceptable to us, and we would
urge you to adopt that major use special permit as written. We have worked
very closely with the Coral Gate Homeowners Association and their
representatives and tried to resolve concerns that they had about this
project. While they have been supportive of it from the beginning, many
members, although some had problems with it, they had three principal
concerns, and we have resolved those concerns through an agreement. The
commitments that we have made are as follows: the eight foot masonry wall
will be constructed prior to starting construction of any of the proposed
structures on the site, so that our neighbors to the north will not have to
watch the construction site under way. The second issue that they raised, was
the ability of people using the parking garage to be able to peek over the
sides of the garage and look into their back yards. We have agreed to
incorporate into the design of the project, decorative screening, in that, in
the north phase of the parking garage, so that anyone parking their car, would
have an obstructed view of the residences to the north. Finally, and perhaps
most importantly to everyone here, is what to do with S.W. 33rd Avenue. We
have always maintained, and I believe the Planning Department has too, that
the decision as to whether or not 33rd Avenue needs to be closed is one that
this board needs make, with the input from all of the residents to be affected
by that closure. We, however, are in support of closing 33rd Avenue, and
therefore have agreed to pursue, with the homeowner's association, a joint
application that we will file within 45 days of the issuance of this major use
special permit to close 33rd Avenue to traffic temporarily, which was a_
request of the homeowner's association, that it would be closed for a period
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of one year, and that would be during our construction period, during which
time the community could decide whether or not they vented 33rd Avenue opened
or closed. At least two months prior to the expiration of that temporary
closure period, the association and the devveloper would Ezet together and
decide whether or not., well, it is the Fpsociat.ion's clecisicn, Rs to whether
nor not to pursue a petition to close 23rd A. venue psrrranent3y, if thPt was
the COril'nLrnity's deClsiOn, thF.n we apFin, F`ith the homro—nFr's=ssociation,
would petition this board to perm;:nFntly close ?jrd f,,'Fnue. if this board...
Mayor Cuare7: Is the burden on the association to have to init.iate that, or
is that a mutual burden on both you and the association, as proposed.
Ms. Orshefsky: it is our responsibility to file the petition, at their
request.
Mr. Plummer: And who would pay for it.
Ms. Orshefsky: The applicant, here, the developer, and if the road is
permanently closed, then we would construct the cul-de-sac, or equivalent
device, and expend the $50,000 which we are committed to under condition 13
of this proposed major use special permit to creating a pocket park at the
head of what would have been 33rd Avenues intersection with 21st Street. All
of that would come into play. If, however, this Commission does not approve
the request of the homeowner's &ssociation, either to permanently to close
that road, we would still, we as the developer, would still have the
responsibility, a year after our C.O. is received for the movie theatre, to
petition this Commission ourselves, so that we really, the community has added
opportunity, we all have added opportunity to study the traffic situation in
and around 33rd Avenue and make decisions as to whether or not it should be
opened, but that everyone, the homeowners, yourselves, and ourselves will have
a voice in that decision.
Mayor Suarez: Why don't we hear from the association.
Mrs. Orshefsky: I'd like to introduce...
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Suarez: Commissioner.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I... Debbie, would you take a minute? I am utterly
confused. On disclosure of ownership... I don't know, you know, I know the —
ga_�es that are played, but we have... Alpert, Maurice Alpert, is the owner of
one parcel, and I understand that.
Ms. Orshefsky: That's correct.
Mr. Plummer: That is page 26 of the backup document. Then you go to Page 27,
and we have a gentlemen by the name of Bernardo Fort.
Mr. Lefley: Yes, sir.
Mr. Plummer: But, we are looking at four different corporations, one a
Florida Corporation, one a Dutch Corporation, one a Netherlands Antilles
Corporation, and one a Panamanian Corporation, and it says on each one that
they own 100 percent.
Ms. Orshefsky: I'll have to check my sheet on that breakdown, but it is my
understanding that the ownership of half of the property is with Decorative
Arts Plaza, Inc., and Bernardo Fort is the president.
Mr. Plummer: No, wait a minute, Decorative Arts Plaza, Inc., is half owner,
OK, but that in turn, they are 100 percent owner of the property...
Ms. Orshefsky: Yes, but they are...
Mr. Plummer: But, yet it breaks down into four different corporations, and I
want to know why. Likewise, the other half of the property is owned by Coral
Way Associates, Limited, who owns 100 percent of that half of the property,
but yet, there are one, two, three, four different corporations on that.
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Ms. Orshefsky: I believe that all of these various corporations were set up,
although I was notthe attorney setting them up, for purposes of the tax laws.
I would have to assume... Bernardo's tax considerations - the different tax
considprat.ions. However, the entities that are representative of having 100
percent of their portion of the subject property, do have that 100 percent,
and act on behalf of the various other corporations that make them up.
Mr. Flummr-r: WPI3
Me. Orshefsky: The new tax law will make this a lot easier, I think.
Mayor Suarez: We have, you not only have a unique project, from what I can
see, but you have a unique ownership form here. It is one of the most complex
that I have seen in a long time. Who are the real live principals, owners of
this?
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Mayor Suarez: Not just in a representative capacity, or as architects, or
whatever, but actually...
Ms. Orshefsky: Come up here, Bernardo.
Mayor Suarez: edam City Attorney, do we have a right to know who the
individual owners actually are?
Mr. Plummer.: Oh yes, full disclosure)
Mrs. Kennedy: Where is Maurice Alpert?
Ms. Orshefsky: Maurice Alert is not here today. He is represented by
Matthew Schoenberg, under a power of attorney, which I believe is in the file.
Mr. Plummer: You know, my problem, I am going to put it right on the record,
my problem is that if the City ever goes to move, and tries to correct the
wrong, we have got to tall- to eight different corporations.
Ma. Orshefsky: No, under their corporate documents, the one individual that
is represented here, and Mr. Alpert, through Mr. Schoenberg, would be the
source of any responsibility, under the commitments being made here.
Mr. Robert H. Traurig: I think it is important to introduce each of those
principals so that they can address you directly. This is Mr. Matthew
Schoenberg. I think you know Bernardo Fort Brescia who is behind me, and you
might ask them any questions that you think are pertinent, Commissioner.
Mr. Plummer: Well, I will ask Mr. Fort first. Sir, what is the intent of the
four different corporations of ownership?
Mr. Bernardo Fort: The property was acquired as part of a trade with a —
previous shopping center owned by the same company. This was a center that
was owned for many, many years. In those times, I think Mr. Suarez, as an
attorney, would remember there used to be something called a Dutch standard,
and it was a standard procedure, and he probably can explain to you, that used
to be done under old tax laws. It is no longer applicable for over two years,
but since it was part of a trade, that is tht+ reason why it was inherited in
that kind of system of corporate structure. It was fairly common about ten
years ago.
Mr. Plummer: Who is Ray Carlo Durling and Cecilio...
Mr. Fort: They are the trustees of the trust. It is a family trust that
owned the previous shopping center from which this structure was inherited,
and this will be, once everything is ready, will be cleared up because under
the new tax laws, next year, none of this will be applicable any more. It is
very complex. I mean, somebody could... a tax attorney would have to give a
lecture on this to explain why. The reason is for historical reasons, I mean,
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there is no other reason.
Mr. Plummer: But, according to this, you own 100 percent of that corporation.
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Mr. Fort: No, sir, I am the trustee representing... I am the president of the
company. I do not own 100 percent, the trust owns 100 percent.
Mr. Plummer: Madam City Attorney, ere you satisfied with this legal jumbo,
mumbo?
Mrs. Dougherty: For. Commissioner, I am satisfied that they have disclosed
under our ordinance, the cvners of the various corpo.retions.
Mr. Plummer: Have we accomplished anything here? I mean, all I am looking at
Is a whole bunch of corporations. That is what I am looking at. It doesn't
really tell me anything.
Mrs. Dougherty: Well, there is no requirement that individuals...
Mr. Plummer: No, I think you are wrong... let's...
Mrs. Dougherty: All of the individuals have been disclosed that are required
under the ordinance.
Mr. Plummer: flight, so tor. Fort, then you own 100 percent, sir, of the
Decorative Arts Plaza? You are...
Mrs. Dougherty: No, he is president.
Mr. Fort: As president of the corporation, I am representing 100 percent
ownership.
Mr. Plummer: According to the law here, "owners of subject real property, and
percentage of ownership of all parties having a financial interest." Now, are
there other parties in this that have a financial interest, or do you own it
all?
Mr. Fort: Everything that is presented in the disclosure of ownership is
accurate, sir.
Mr. Plummer: That is not my question, sir. My question is, are there other
parties, for example, in Decorative Arts Plaza, Inc., besides yourself? It is
not what you represent. Who are the actual owners?
Ms. Orshefsky: Decorative Arts Plaza is owned by the various other corp... it
is owned by Atlantic Design Enterprises, which is then owned by... it is again
we are in a situation, it is a number of corporations.
Mr. Plummer: Debbie, I read very well, and I thank you. My question is, is
Mr. Fort, 100 percent owner? Are there other people involved?
Ms. Orshefsky: He is the 100 percent owner.
Mr. Plummer: He owns it entirely?
Ms. Orshefsky: That is correct.
Mr. Plummer: All four corporations, three, except Thornhill. Remember now,
we are on the record.
Mr. Carollo: Remember how that ordinance has got introduced?
Mr. Plummer: Yes.
Mr. Carollo: Who introduced it?
Mr. Plummer: Yes.
Mr. Carollo: One of my worse ordinances, right?
Mr. Plummer: Jaearol.
Ms. Orshefsky: The trustees, if we want to break it down to the ultimate
shareholders, they would be, the shareholders under the trust, would be
Bernardo Fort-Brescia's parents.
Mr. Plummer: Would be what?
Ms. Orshefsky: Mr. Fort's parents.
Mr. Plummer: Not listed here.
Ms. Orshefsy.y: They ere... it is a...
Mr. Plummer: Are they Thornhill?
He. Orshefsky: Excuse met Yes, they are.
Mr. Plummer: Let me go back to my original question. Decorative Arts Plaza,
Inc. Does Mr. Bernardo Fort own 100 percent, or are there other people
involved"
Ms. Orshefsky: All those...
Mr. Fort: Let me explain to you clearly.
Mayor Suarez: Maybe by telling us the beneficial owners, as opposed...
Mr. Fort: There is a trust, and by law, the owner is a trust.
Mr. Plummer: Who are the members of the... ?
Mr. Fort: The trustees are the gentlemen that appear... that is here, Mr.
Durling, Mr. Castillero, and they are the trustees.
Mr. Plummer: They are shareholders of Thornhill?
Mr. Fort: Yes.
Mr. Plummer: No. Sir, for the fourth time, and if I don't get my answer this
time, I am deferring the item! For the fourth time, the Decorative Arts
Plaza, Inc., do you own 100 percent of that, or there are other people
involved?
Mr. Fort: Yes, sir, I do.
Mr. Plummer: You own 100 percent? There is no other people involved in
Decorative Arts Plaza, Inc., that have a financial interest?
Mr. Fort: As listed in the paper, here, sir, it is, I mean, what can I say?
I am not an attorney, so I don't know how to answer the question, sir.
Mr. Carollo: Can I give counsel a little background in history, why we
implemented this ordinance?
Mr. Fort: Yes, sir.
Mr. Carollo: And this has nothing to do with all the individuals that, you
know, appear as owners here so far. I think you all are honorable people.
The reason that this ordinance is in the record today, is that this crazy
Commissioner here, also happened to introduce that ordinance, because, at the
time, we were having tremendous amount, that is the only way I can describe
it, of narcodollars that were being laundered into the building trade into
this community, and again, I repeat for the record, this has nothing to do
with the honorable people that are a part of this project. I am just giving
you a little history of why it was implemented.
Mr. Fort: I appreciate it. Now, I understand why...
Mr. Carollo: There was a major project that was never built because this
ordinance came into effect, and in fact, at that time, you know, the media
could write another article on this, I had to go to the federal grand jury and
probably the reason that you never heard about that was because the government
was keeping it quiet so that I could be a witness in their behalf.
Mr. Fort: I understand, air.
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Mr. Carollo: And with that grand jury proceeding, there were many questions
that were asked in reference to monies being laundered, and different people
involved in the drug trade with Cuba.
Mr. Fort: In view of the... I mean, I understand now the intent, sir.
Mr. Carol. Io: But, the bottom line of what I am getting to is, if that
ordinance at thattime would not have been implemented in the way that it was,
we probably would have had at least one project, and others that were not clear
at all, as to where their funds were coming to, built in this community.
Mr. Fort: Sir,
I would like to
explain to you
once more why I
am confused and
I will ask how
to explain it.
I apologize if
I wasn't, clear,
but I am not an
attorney, so I
don't. know when
I am explaining
things properly
in a legal way.
Mr. Plummer: Sir, you don't have to apologize to me for not being an
attorneys
Mr. Fort: I am sure we all agree with that! No intentional...
Mrs. Kennedy: Bernardo, what is the time frame for the construction of this
project?
Mr. Plummer: Excuse me, Rosario, could I get my answer?
Mrs. Kennedy: OK.
Mr. Fort: I would like to answer the question, so that they are satisfied,
and I understand now what the legal answer is. The gentlemen that are shown
in the last line of this application are the trustees, representing a trust,
of which my family is the beneficiary, but a beneficiary is not an owner,
therefore, that is why they do not appear, and they were trying to do the
legally correct thing here, but...
Mr. Plummer: Thank...
Mayor Suarez: And your family is the beneficial owner of, pretty much, of the
entire tract that we are talking about, in effect?
Mr. Fort: The only beneficiary, sir.
Mayor Suarez: OK, and then the other half of the tract?
Mr. Plummer: OK, I will get to that now.
Mr. Fort: There is no other party, and I represent them and I am the
president and that is why they show 100 percent, because there is no other
beneficiary.
Mr. Carollo: Well, I think that the way you could clear a lot is just by
stating for the record, who the beneficiaries of the trust are, and that would
resolve it, I think. I think the way that you would resolve the intent of the
ordinance is by stating on the record...
Mr. Fort: Mr. and Mrs. Paul Fort, my parents.
Mr. Plummer: OK, now, the other page. Maurice Alpert, am I to understand
that he is sole owner, and entirely owns every portion of the entire
application?
Ms. Orshefsky: He owns one-half of the application, that portion not owned by
Decorative Arts Plaza, and he owns...
Mr. Plummer: OK, but he, yes, 50 percent.
Ms. Orshefsky: ... percent owner of his portion, that is correct.
Mr. Plummer: Thank you. Now, you can... how long is that?
Ms. Orshefsky: If there are no more questions, I would like...
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Mrs. Kennedy: Yes, I have a couple... first of all, the time frame for the
construction of this project?
Ms. OrFhefsky: Their construction runs are complete, and they would like to _
file for P building permit tomorrow. They would commence construction
immediately, to he opened for the Christmas season, 1987.
Mr. Plummer: Just before GrPmm-Rudman.
Mrs. Kennedy: one of my interests, and one that I don't see here, is day care
centers, and in fact., I am not sure whether this would be the area for a day
care center, but. I would certainly like, if not, some kind of contribution
toward P day center, perk fund, or something to that effect.
Ms. Orshefsky: We have considered that, and to respond to both of them, there
is a day care facility incorporated into the heath spa, which will be for spa
members and guests.
Mrs. Kennedy: But, just for spa members?
Ms. Orshefsky: That's correct.
Mrs. Kennedy: No, but that is not enough.
Me. Orshefsky: To respond to you other concern, we would be interested in
voluntarily contributing $15,000 to the fund that you had mentioned.
Mrs. Kennedy: OK.
Mayor Suarez: Can we hear from the neighbors, both for and against. I gather
the ones that are with you here representing the association are now for it,
and there may be some against. Can I have a show of hands as to those who are
going to speak against this application? One? OK.
Mr. Plummer: And she is no stranger here.
Mrs. Kennedy: There are never any strangers. It is the same people over and
over.
Mayor Suarez:• Give us your name and the association that you represent. We
assume that you are not being compensated, so you don't have to file as a
lobbyist.
Mr. Charles Hasseler: That is correct. My name is Charles Hasseler, I live
at 1810 S.W. 33rd Court. I have lived there for approximately 20 years. I
represent as president the Coral Gate Homeowner's Association, Inc. You are
going to have to bear with me, because some of this is going to be slightly
repetitious. The Coral Gate community is not here to oppose progress per as,
but we are here to control it a little bit. We consider the Miracle Center
the beginning of a new era in our community, because you can see everything
coming down Coral Way right now, that is part of it. We know that the City
planners do their best to represent us when they have no response from the
community, and we take the blame for our apathy in the past. We are now _
organizing and trying to develop a consensus for growth, to prevent the
destruction of our neighborhood while that takes place. We are not opposed to
the Miracle Center project. We think, had we been organized, our community
input would have saved the project promoter, and ourselves, a great deal of
stress. We have concerns which are being, or have been, addressed, both by
the City, and the Miracle Center promoters.
Mayor Suarez: I don't want to preempt everything you are going to say, but I
will tell you that the one remaining, principally remaining issue, from what I
hear from the Commission, it has to do with the closing off of the street, and
that's...
Mr. Hasseler: We are getting to that, right now.
Mayor Suarez: Instead of giving us the whole presentation, you might address
that issue. It might get us along a little bit quicker.
Mr. Hasseler: OK, of major concern is the traffic that will generate during
construction, and the future completion of Phase I of the project. The Coral
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Gate Homeowners feel a temporary barrier on 33rd Avenue, of the north boundary
of the Miracle Center project, south of 21st would serve this purpose
adequately. Is that clear, J.L.?
Mr. Plummer: Are you opposed to a permanent closing?
Mr. lip sseler: l.et. me go on and address that. In ten months of nearing
completion of the first phase, the Corp] Gate community will decide on a
permanent cul-de-sac to be provided and paid for by the builder, the cul-de-
sac to be constructed at. the same location as the barrier. This will separate
the residential community from the commercial establishments. Is that pretty
clear, what we are talking about? We are talking about a temporary closure
that we are going to try to live with for ten months. If at that time we feel
as though the community can't live with that, then we don't need the cul-de-
sac.
Mr. Dawkins: But, is it ten months, sir, the ten months during construction,
or is it ten months after the completion and the use of the building?...
because there is going to be a difference in the amount of traffic.
Mr. Hasseler: We want the barrier there during construction.
Mr. Dawkins: Sir?
Mr. Hasseler: We want the barrier there during construction.
Mr. Hasseler.: OK, then... I mean, I don't live there, but I would hate to
base my judgment on construction, knowing that once the building is completed,
then the traffic and everything is going to be different than during the
construction phase.
Mr. Hasseler: We feel as though we need the cul-de-sac. The community feels
as though they need the cul-de-sac.
Mr. Plummer: I agree.
Mr. Hasseler: I believe that is most of our major concern. We have other
agreements, screening agreements and so forth, and you heard... J.L., you
brought up the wall. I never heard anybody object to the wall. The problem
with the wall is that we needed the protection during the time of
construction, not after the project is built. We were afraid construction
personnel, equipment, and so forth would wander into those back yards. That
was of major concern to us also.
Mr. Plummer: So, it makes no difference to you whether it is solid, or
whether it is louvered?
Mr. Hasseler: I think you have to hear from the community on that, but I
didn't... we didn't even approach that question. The other major concern vas
screening on the back of the buildings, so that nobody in those parking areas
could look directly down into the back yards. Those were our three major
concerns. Thank you.
Mr. Pierce: Mr. Mayor, if I may. I have heard the applicant's attorney
talking about closing the street. I think it is important that the Commission
be fully aware of how that process works. It is not something that is totally
within the developer's powers just to do it. There are two ways to do it. —_
One, is just the closing off of street to traffic, which could 'ae initiated by
the Public Works Department, or usually, by the residents of an area within
1,000 feet of the affected street. The other way is a formal petition to
vacate and close the street, which requires the cooperation and participation
of all owners of property adjoining that street.
Mayor Suarez: What you are saying is procedurally, what we have to do today,
is, if we do anything at all, would be a temporary, or artificial closing, and
not a permanent, is that what you are saying?
Mr. Pierce: Absolutely. It is going to take a whole separate process, but I
wanted everyone to be clear that it is not just a simple matter of someone
saying, "I want to close the streets."
Mr. Hasseler: We are... Mr. Mayor...
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Mayor Suarez: You have no problem with that. You are not proposing a
permanent closing.
Mr. Hasseler: No, we are well aware of the law, and we are well aware...
Mayor Suarez: Would you stick around a little longer? Sometimes we need a
lot of advice on that.
Mr. Hasseler: We are well aware where the law requires the closing to be, but
we know There we want the street closed.
Mayor Suarez: I understand.
Mr. Hasseler: Thank you.
Mayor Suarez: Ma'am, give us your name and address, and we presume again that
you have not been compensated to appear here.
Ms. Ofelio Tabares Fernandez: No, I am not compensated. My name is Ofelio
Tabares Fernandez, and I live at 1861 S.W. 36th Avenue, which is in the Coral
Gate neighborhood. It is a single residence area, and the homeowner
association is in the process of being formally completed, and we, all
definitely want to keep the nature of this single residence area. We are very
much worried about the traffic problem. We already have had to and will fight
for the development on 37th Avenue and in going into the Coral Gate section.
I mean, if it is outside of the... and the business is already in existence,
there is no opposition to that. I think this is a wonderful opportunity for
the developers to do something beautiful in that area. I have nothing against
development of that as a beautiful shopping center. I think we need it. In
fact, the central part of the City of Miami. needs a nice shopping center, but
definitely whatever happens there, has to protect the traffic impact, of
whatever development is approved for this tract "C", or "B", or. tract "C" in
the future, that the traffic doesn't go into the neighborhood. I have heard
saying, "temporary closing." If, procedurally, it has to be temporary now,
and then another request later on, it is all right, but in my opinion, that
should be a permanent closing, not... and when I say cloning, not with an
awful wall. I think the developers, as I understand Arquitectonica, the
architect firm, they are one of the very best, and I am sure ti.iy can devise
some way to close for automobile traffic, but not for pedestrian traffic, I
mean, people in the neighborhood could walk to 33rd Avenue and coming into the
shopping center, and there are a lot of ways to do a nice thing, I mean to
close that neighborhood, as in Lincoln Road, for example, where it ends on
Alton Road, as I think it is, and in some way to permit the pedestrian
traffic, but not automobile traffic. That is definite, and the other thing is
to protect with adequate high wall the single residence area, with obligation
for the developer to landscape properly, and keep the landscape, and I heard
something about giving $500 to each, I mean, none of us are landscapers. I
think, I mean, this is something the developers should provide. It is going
to be an enhancement to the area, and we all want to enjoy it, but please
don't think about temporary closing, when this is a big problem. The big
problem is going to be after the development is finished. During the
construction period, it is only two or three trucks what we are talking about.
Mayor Suarez: Thank you. Yes, sir. Give us your name and address, and once
again, we assume that you are not compensated to be here, so you don't have to
register; otherwise you have to register with the City. Go ahead.
Ms. Miriam Millar: My name is Miriam Millar. My office is at 3400 Coral Way,
and I have an interest on lots 455 and 456, and my daughter and son --in-law
live on 457, and we love to have Miracle Center next to our property, because
these developments, they bring jobs to our children and progress to our City,
in taxes, revenue, and everything. We can better Fire Departments and Police
Departments and garbage companies, but we really don't mind to have the
traffic of the Miracle Center when it is under construction, or after it is
finished. We will be the most people affected by the traffic and we don't
think that we should have that street closed at all, because then we will be
isolated from the Miracle Center and I know by the developments they tied
into, there is going to be a very nice area, where maybe at evening, we can
even stroll there and have a place where to walk at night nicely protected and
well lighted, that we all need in the City of Miami, because we need that, and
for progress, progress brings jobs to people. We need that now, because our
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children are growing, mnd where are they going to work after they finish
school? So, the three c-rners of that, we are not for the closing of 33rd. We
will work with Miracle Center whenever we can, whenever they want us to
cooperate with them. Thank you.
Mayor Suarez: Any one else? Commissioner? Yes, Ma'am. Give us your name
and address and once again, if you are compensated.
Ms. Maria Upthegrove: My name is Maria Upthegrove, and my address is 3290
S.W. 21st Street, and I am not: compensated, I am a homeowner. First of all, I
would like to express my support for the project coming up. That is...
actually, what is there is just neglected commercial property, which allows
thieves to jump our back wall and get into our homes, and it just looks
horrible. Secondly, I. would like to advise the Commission that the Coral Gate
Homeowner's Association does not speak for all the homeowners in that
neighborhood.
Mayor Suarez: So for you haven't disagreed with them, so...
Ms. Upthegrove: Well, I am going to disagree with them right now. I disagree
with closing off that street, because I live on lot 457, which you will notice
is only a house away from the corner on 33rd and 21st. That will cut access
for me to Coral Way, and the easiest way for me to go. Furthermore...
Mr. Plummer: Excuse me, will somebody point out which lots...
Ms. Upthegrove: 457.
Mr. Plummer: OK, and the other lady was...
Mr. Pierce: Two lots going west.
Ms. Upthegrove: 455 and 456. Regardless of... well, what I want to say is
that... the wall is impractical. Right now, that 21st Street is a highway,
and it is really for people that bypass Coral Way. They take a left, like on
Douglas, and then they go all the way to 32nd Avenue. There is really no
traffic on 33rd Avenue right now. I am familiar with the structural
adjustments that the project is going to make, because I have seen them in a
few buildings. It is possible, when the traffic is directed that way, to go
the other way, so as far as once a building is built, it will be no stress for
us. That is all, thank you.
Mayor Suarez: Thank you. OK.
Mr. Traurig: Mr. Mayor, may I wrap up for the developer, please? My name is
Robert H. Traurig, I am registered in connection with this matter. I am
partner of Debbie Orshefsky, and I want to tell you what my perception of this
hearing has been. What has been disclosed is, we are not seeking any zoning
change, we are not seeking any variances. We are not seeking any special
exceptions, and we are here for a major use special permit, because the scale
of our project, the scope of our project, permits the City to review our
project to make sure that we have complied fully with aesthetic requirements,
with impact analyses and so forth. We have done that, and the recommendation
has been for approval from the Planning Department, from the Planning Advisory
Board, and we are very mindful of the different opinions of different people
in the property to the north, in Coral Gables, and we want to be fully
cooperative with all of those people. We have agreed on the landscaping, we
have agreed on the wall, we have agreed on the screening, etc., because those
are simple things with which we could agree, and say, "yes", we will do these
various things. With regards to the road closure, we know that is a
complicated problem. It is a complicated problem even without the this
project, and some people feel, yes, and some people feel, no, and we would
like to divorce the two issues so that that could be looked at independently,
objectively, by the Public Works Department, but in the event this Commission
feels that it ought to be part of this consideration, we are prepared to go
either way. We think that the project ought to be approved. We think that the
recommendations are sound. Ile are willing to abide, not only by all of the
conditions previously imposed, but we would like again to reconfirm that we
will make the contribution to the day care center voluntarily. Thank you.
Mayor Suarez: Thank you, Bob. Yes, sir.
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Mr. Hasseler: Do you want my name and address again?
Mayor Suarez: Just your name once again, for the record. =r
Mr. Hasseler: Charles Hasseler, president of the Homeowner's Association. I
have 100 names on a petition here to have that street closed, if you would
like to see it.
Mr. Dawkins: No, sir, the only thing I would like to know is...
Mr. Hasseler: We will go after it again, if you care to...
Mr. Dawkins: The only thing I'd like to know is, did you, at any time, state
that you represented all of the homeowners out there? Did you at any time
state that?
Mr. Hasseler: Absolutely not.
Mr. Dawkins: Thank you, sir.
Mr. Hasseler: I am president of the Homeowner's Association. Anybody knows
you can't represent all of the people in our community.
Mr. Plummer: That's the best statement I've heard today! Mr. Mayor, if I
may... to the pretty young lady in the yellow dress, would you come back to
the microphone, please? You said that your children own lot 57...
Ms. Millar: 57. —
Mr. Plummer: And lot 58?
Ms. Millar: No, no.
Mr. Plummer: Would you point them out to me, please?
Mr. Pierce: 455 and 456.
Mr. Plummer: I can't see that far, I'm sorry, Walter.
Mr. Pierce: 457.
Mr. Plummer: No, that was the other girl. That was hers.
Ms. Millar: That is my daughter. —
Mr. Plummer: OK, and there were two lots you said you represented.
Ms. Millar: Yes, 455 and 456.
Mr. Plummer: OK, and you are opposed to closing the street.
Ms. Millar: Yes, I know that we are not here today for the closing of the
street, as Mr. Traurig said.
Mr. Plummer: No, no, I disagree with that one.
Ms. Millar: But I don't want you to get confused, OK?
Mr. Plummer: OK.
Ms. Millar: Because I know with that we will have to be in the future with -
application or something like that.
Mr. Plummer: Not necessarily. Question I have of you, were your children
recently denied by the Zoning Board to put in an office at that location?
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Ms. Millar: Yes.
Mr. Plummer: An office on residential lots?
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Ms. Millar: Well, they are not residential lots, they have transitional
zoning. We asked for a class C permit which is different to a rezoning.
Mr. Plummer: But they were denied?
Ar-
Ms. Millar: Yes, and we are appealing it.
Mr. Plummer: Thank you.
Ms. Fernandez.: Our rebuttal to this lady. This property is a...
Mayor Suarez: Well, we are not going to have rebuttals all dayl... Just if
you have anything else to clarify?
Ms. Fernandez_.: Yes, this property is exactly the property that was proposed
in the last zoning hearing to build a three story building.
Mayor Suarez: I am not. v7hat the relevancy is to that, but thank you anyhow
for the clarification.
Mr. Plummer: Well., the relevancy is ...
Mayor Suarez: The Commissioner already asked about that, so...
Mr. Plummer: The relevance, Mr. Mayor, is to the fact that the reason they
don't want the street closed is because if they want to put offices in there,
they want access to their offices, and you know, and what I know is, the
minute that the first office goes in, the domino theory has carried it all the
way down to 32nd Avenue. That is the relevance to it! Are we finished with
the public hearing?
Mayor Suarez: Yes, I think so. We have heard from...
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I have my two points, which I would make again. I
don't like the idea that a temporary basis - I will go on the record, if I am
sitting on this Commission, which I fully intend to be, that we put it in as a
permanent closure at any time... at any time, the neighbors in a group want to
come back and petition this Commission to say, Commission, we don't think it
is necessary, we would like to open it back up, I will vote immediately for
it. The second condition...
Mayor Suarez: We could build that in as a resolution of intent, if you would
like.
Mr. Plummer: Fine. The second portion, Mr. Mayor, as you know, I am very
much opposed to just a blank wall. I think a blank wall is horrible, it gives
me the feeling of claustrophobia, and a concentration camp. I would want to
make sure that there was something that was agreeable to the neighbors that
they could live with without just being a total blank wall. The other part
that I have to address is, I think today... Bob, you better listen to this,
$500 worth of landscaping is nothing. You can go out and buy two trees and -
you are up to $500. You are talking about, as I count there, you are talking
about ten properties that are affected, and I just feel that either, orl You
offer them a proffer by a landscaping professional that they agree to, or you
_ have got to up the $500 to make something reasonable, OK? Now, that's the
points I make, and that is where my vote ...
Mr. Traurig: Commissioner, you are right about the $500, but I think it is
_ very important to note, we are going to do extensive landscaping on our side
of the wall.
Mr. Plummer: We are not protecting you, we are protecting the residents.
Mr. Traurig: Yes, and we recognize that, that is why we said in addition,
that they should have some large trees strategically placed on their
particular lots, and that the $500 would provide for those trees. If, on the r°.
other hand, you want a different number than $500 because that is inadequate,
I would...
Mr. Plummer: I would... no.
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Mr. Traurig:... I would say to you, sir, that we would put in landscaping on
their side of the wall, as specified by your Planning Department.
Mr. Plummer: Fob, no, no. My Planning Pepartment is going to live there.
The neighbors are going to live there! tend what 1 am saying is, is what one
neighbor brought out very
cieerly
- they are net professional landscapers.
I
would much rather net increase
the cost. 1 would rather
you, as
the
developers p-ft togather a
pfckage
by a Professional , as you will
be doing
on
the other side of the wall,
and it_
is something that is agreeable
to them,
and
don't give them the money,
give them something pleasing to Look
at besides
a
blank wall.
Mr. Traurig: Rut, the reason that we dial it...
Mr. Plummer: I understand.
Mr. Traurig: We don't want to trespass on their property. We don't want to
dictate to them what. ought to be put there. We would prefer to give them the
money Qo that they can use their own discretion about the kind of plant
materials. We will give 51,000, if that is the solution co the problem,
because we think that it enhances their backyards, it enhances our project.
We weren't trying to be chintzy on the $500 versus some other number, be we
felt that it would be better for them to have the discretion as to what kind
of materials to use.
Mr. Plummer Yes, but Bob, if you are talking about ten lots, and you get a
professional to come in, you can gec a hell of a lot better deal when he is
doing ten lots, rather than them doing it individually.
Mr. Traurig: We will undertake to do the landscaping...
Mr. Plummer: Don't use that word! (LAUGHTER)
Mayor Suarez: Now you are in competition with him.
Mr. Traurig: We will do what is required, to install the landscaping on their
lots.
Mr. Plummer: Perpetual maintenance!
Mr. Traurig: This is too funereal for mel
Mayor Suarez: OK, Commissioners, Planning and Zoning item...
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, if you are ready for a motion, I am ready to make it.
Based on the criteria as amended here today, by myself, and if any others want
to, I move that this matter be granted, and I only have one other question,
because we are asked as Commissioners and elected officials, give me an
approximate cost value of this project to this City. I am not going to hold
you to it. Is it four billion, or three billion, or approximate?
Mr. Traurig: The figure I keep hearing is $35,000,000.
Mr. Plummer: $35,000,000, that is it?
Mr. Traurig: The cost of the project would be $35,000,000 in construction
costs.
Mr. Plummer: OK, thank you. I move that this motion be granted with the
stipulation so attached, and well, the three stipulations that I put in there.
So moved.
Mayor Suarez: So moved.
Mr. Pierce: They can make the wall decorative.
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Mayor Suarez: Do I hear a second?
Mr. Plummer: Do to the lack of interest, today has been cancelled.
Mrs. Kennedy: I will second.
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Mayor Suarez: Seconded. I was about to do it. All right, it has been moved
and seconded. Any further discussion from the Commission? Hearing none, call
the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 86-834
A RESOLUTION ISSUING A MAJOR USE SPECIAL PERMIT
ATTACHED HERETO AS EXHIBIT "A"; APPROVING WITH
CONDITIONS, THE MIRACLE CENTER PROJECT PROPOSED BY
CORAL WAY ASSOCIATES, LTD., AND DECORATIVE ARTS PLAZA,
INC. LOCATED AT AFFROXIMATELY 3301-3501 CORAL WAY (SW
22 STREET) MORE FART ICULARLY DESCRIBED HERE114 AS THE
EAST 625 FEET OF TRACT B CORAL GATE SECTION D, PLAT
BOOK 50, PAGE 34 OF THE PUBLIC RECORDS OF DADE COUNTY;
MAKING FINDINGS; INCORPORATING A DEVELOPMENT IMPACT
STUDY BY REFERENCE; PROVIDING THAT THE MAJOR USE
SPECIAL FER.MIT SHALL BE BINDING 014 THE APPLICANT AND
SUCCESSOR 114 INTEREST; A14D DIRECTING THE CITY CLERK TO
SEND COPIES OF THE HEREIN RESOLUTI014 TO AFFECTED
AGENCIES AND THE DEVELOPER.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Kennedy, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner. Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor Miller J. Dawkins
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
5. PLAT ACCEPTANCE: "MIRACLE CENTER (S.W. 22 ST. AND S.W. WE AVE.)
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Mayor Suarez: PZ-3 is a companion item. I don't hope we have all the same
discussion. It is plat acceptance.
Mr. Pierce: It is the plat.
Mr. Plummer: Yes, if we don't approve this, there are out. I move item 3.
Wait a minute, excuse me. Let me ask a question. Mr. Campbell, understanding
what the Commission has just done as far as a permanent closure, does that
alter the plat in any way?
Mr. George Campbell: No, sir.
Mr. Plummer: All right, sir, I move item 3.
Mayor Suarez: So moved. Second? Please second.
Mrs. Kennedy: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded. Any discussion from the Commission? Call
the roll on item PZ-3.
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October 23, 1986
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummet, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 86-835
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE FLAT ENTITLED MIRACLE
CENTER, A SUPPIVISION IN TFIE CITY OF MIAMI; AND
ACCEPTING THE DI DICA7IOI,S SHOVINI OW SAID FLAT; AND
AUTHORIZING AND D7F-FC7jNG TNT CITY MhNAGFP AND CITY
CLERK TO FY,F.CI?TF TNT F'I_.AT /,IkD FROVIDING FOR Ti E
RECORDATION OF SAID FIAT III TNF FtiF7JIC RTC07rls OF DADE
COUNTY, FLOPIDA.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Kennedy, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor Miller J. Dawkins
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
6. GRANT FUNDING FOR "SECOND ANNUAL CONFERENCE OF CIVILIAN OVERSIGHT OF LAW
ENFORCEMENT."
Mayor Suarez: Item one of the Regular, non Planning & Zoning agenda.
Representatives of the International Association of Civilian Oversight of Law
Enforcement.
Mr. Plummer: Number one of the regular agenda, Page 11.
Mayor Suarez: They will pass those around, and you can go ahead, and tell us,
give us your name and address, and who you represent. I presume you are here
on a non -compensatory capacity, although you are a member of the association,
right?
Mr. Wesley Pomeroy: Yes, I am. My name is Wes Pomeroy. I am at 73 West
Flagler Street, Room 1902 in Miami. On October 7th, at the brief appearance I
had before you, you gave me two clear directions in talking about this
application for support for the Second Annual Conference for the International
Association for Civilian Oversight of Law Enforcement. One was to clarify and
emphasize what the benefit to Miami would be, since the meetings are being
held at Miami Beach, and another to tell you what support is coming from the
County or other jurisdictions. In this presentation I made out, it seeks to
clarify that, and it in brief says that, although the meetings are being held
in Miami Beach, the primary outside activities are being held in Miami. We
have specific activities planned here, including a large reception at Monty
Trainer's, transportation is being arranged, so that people will stay in
Coconut Grove to shop and to eat. We have other daytime activities, which
include tours to in Coconut Grove, a fashion show at Mayfair, a tour
with lunch in Little Havana, downtown Miami, for a tour in shopping, which a
lot of people seem to ignore, and there is a lot of real
Mr. Plummer: Sir, to try to cut you short, for everybody's pleasure...
Mr. Pomeroy: All right, please do.
Mr. Plummer:... the City Administration is recommending $4,500.
Mr. Odio: Matching funds.
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Mrs. Kennedy: Matching funds.
Mr. Plummer: Of matching funds from the County?
Mrs. Kennedy: Miami Beach and the County, correetl
Mr. Plummer: Right.
Mr. Pomeroy: What.?
Mr. Plummer: $4,500, sir.
Mr. Pomeroy: Yes.
Mayor Suarez: That happens to be the authority limit of the City Manager, and
that is what he is recommending, and that might mean that if you don't accept
that, you might not get anything from the Commission, so...
Mr. Pomeroy: I am not about to reject it.
Mr. Plummer: I move the Manager's recommendation.
Mr. Dawkins: Second, and under discussion...
Mayor Suarez: Seconded. Under discussion, Commissioner Dawkins?
Mr. Dawkins: Mr. Manager, I have a piece of paper that you submitted, in
_ which you have requested that every department in the City of Miami reduce its
budget, OK7 Now, you will, be getting a memorandum from me, asking you what
this is doing, how are we going to retain services, and what is happening to
our reserve. Now, you can continue to give out money at will, and I want you
to understand that that piece of paper that you passed out, I am voting
against everything on it, because the more money I sit here and try to save,
so that we do not have to raise taxes, and that we are able to provide
services, you continue to find a way to give it away.
Mr. Odio: Are you talking to me, sir? Because...
Mr. Plummer: Are you not still the City Manager?
Mr. Odio: I wish I wasn't sometimes, because I don't think my policy has been
of giving away money in the City of Miami. If it has, I don't know when that
changed. As far as the memorandum that I sent out, we had a staff meeting on
Friday, and we have issued a target to each department, that if they can be
efficient, they should try to save those monies from the budget wherever
possible, without cutting services. That is a target, that if we don't meet
this year, which is a saving another $14,000,000, the City budget will not be
balanced, and that is why we are taking those steps, and I will be glad to
answer your memorandum when I get it, Commissioner.
Mr. Dawkins: Thank you, Mr. Manager.
Mayor Suarez: Thank you Any further discussion from the Commission? Call
the roll.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved
its adoption:
MOTION NO. 86-836
A MOTION GRANTING THE INTERNATIONAL ASSOCIATION FOR
CIVILIAN OVERSIGHT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT $4,500 IN
CONNECTION WITH THE HOLDING OF ITS SECOND ANNUAL
CONFERENCE SCHEDULED FOR DECEMBER 1-5, 1986 SUBJECT TO
SAID GRANT BEING MATCHED BY MIAMI BEACH AND/OR
METROPOLITAN DADE COUNTY.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Dawkins, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote-
23 October 23, 1986
AY$St Commissioner Joe Corolla
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor Miller J. Dawkins
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
7. ACCEPT POLICY DEPARTMENT REPORT ON RICKSHAW OPERATIONS - INSTRUCT
ATTORNEY TO DRAFT REGULATORY ORDINANCE.
Mayor Suarez: Item number two, representatives of the Rickshaw Industry.
Mr. Mike Bellows: Good afternoon. My name is t;ike Bellows, I reside at 330
Catalonia Avenue in Coral Gables. Out of the 12 rickshaws that are currently
operating in the Grove, were operating in the Grove, I own and operate eight.
Mayor Suarez: Oh, I didn't see Tom over there. You are actually listed
first, here. I presume that you are going to make a similar... the thrust is
going to be similar for both of you, r.ight7
Unidentified Speaker: He wanted to speak first anyway.
Mr. Plummer: Well, but you know, I think it is unfair, really, Mr. Mayor. We
asked for a study to be done. There was a study, and I think it is only fair
that we hear from that study first.
Mr. Bellows: Sure.
Mr. Plummer: I think that is only...
Mayor Suarez: Is there a pending study?
Mr. Plummer: No, the study has been surrendered to us, and I'd like to, even
though I have a disagreement with the study, I think it is only proper, if
normal procedure, that we hear from the study first, since we asked for it.
Mr. Bellows: Whatever you like.
Col. Arthur Vincent: Col. Arthur Vincent, Miami Police. As you know, you
implemented an ordinance on April 22nd to be effective September 30th, and
following the passing of the ordinance, the Police Department was instructed
by the Commission to conduct a study to determine if the rickshaws impacted
on traffic flow and added to the traffic congestion. The study was completed
on September 26th and 27th, and on the successive weekend of October 3rd and
4th, to capture a before and after effect. The last weekend that the
rickshaws could operate was the 26th and 27th, and the first week without them
in central Coconut Grove was the 3rd and 4th. The study was conducted by Mr.
Clark Turner, the City Transportation Planner, and I, and we reached three
conclusions. One, rickshaws do not impede traffic when properly operated.
Traffic volume, speed and delays were identical on both weekends, almost
identical, with and without the rickshaws. Number two, the key factor
responsible for traffic disruption impeding traffic flow, was the improper
operation of rickshaws; and number three, it was determined that pedestrian
volume was down 30 percent at Commodore Plaza, near the rickshaw passenger
loading zone, where they park to pick up their passengers and begin their
trips. The Police Department feels that with several additional amendments,
and with strict regulation of the rickshaws with the existing ordinance, that
they can be strictly governed to eliminate disruptive operations.
Mr. Plummer: Colonel, usually when you do a study, don't you usually go back
and find out what kind of problems they have caused in the past?
Col. Vincent: Yes, Commissioner, and we have...
24 October 23, 1986
Mr. Plummer: How come it is not in this study?
Col. Vincent: It is sir, we did enter...
Mr. Plummer: I don't see anything in here about the tickets were issued, or
that arrests were made.
Col. Vincent: Yes, it was summarized as the improper operation. You are
correct, there was no specific mention of it, as far as itemizing each
incident of the accident that they had about...
Mr. Plummer: FIell, usually your summary would show that there have been so
many traffic citations issued, there have been so many arrests made and I
don't find that in here, and I am, wondering why?
Col. Vincent: That is correct, Commissioner, however, we summarized that as
the improper operation. It is granted that the improper operation of the
rickshaws is dir-rupt.ive, however, the study wss instructed in specifically
determining if the operation of rickshaws would add or detract to the
congestion, and the proper operation dad not.. You are correct, there has been
a lot of improper operation. Every commanding officer that I sent down there
to give me an appraisal of the rickshaws did say that there was a great deal
of improper- operation that was disruptive to traffic flow.
Mr. Plummer: You note in your study that with proper regulations. I don't see
your recommendation as to what proper regulations are.
Col. Vincent: Well, the existing ordinance, and I have unfortunately, it was
delayed in the Chief's office, I was late in forwarding the memorandums to the
Chief, and after that to the Cormnission and to the City Manager. However, I
have copies here of some additional amendments that will further strictly
govern the rickshaws.
Mr. Plummer: Well, let me ask you one other question, while we are on the
subject. I noted in the paper the other day, that they had a very unfortunate
incident with a horse and carriage, which we are now seeing in the Grove. Did
you take into consideration in this study the traffic patterns as they related
to the horse and carriage, which in effect, maybe go a little bit slower than
the rickshaws. Was that taken into consideration, or did you only consider
the rickshaws?
Col. Vincent: I am going to check with Mr. Turner, but I think we only
considered the rickshaws, sir. I don't remember counting, or...
Mr. Plummer: If I remember correctly, the ordinance speaks to both.
Col. Vincent: Yes, sir, it does speak to both and...
Mr. Plummer: Just give me, off the top of your head, an opinion.
Col. Vincent: Yes, sir.
Mr. Plummer: Do you feel that makes any difference with the horse and
carriage, as opposed to the rickshaws, yes? You know, I am not going to hold
you to this.
Col. Vincent: Oh, my personal opinion on the horse and carriage is different
than the rickshaws, because I was at the scene of the accident that they had,
and two people were severely injured at that accident at Bayshore Drive,
and...
Mr. Plummer: Accidents will happen.
Col. Vincent: Yes.
Mr. Plummer: Do you feel, because my
thrust in this has
been from day one, as
to the congestion of traffic. I am
speaking to that.
Anyone can have an
accident, OK, and I understand that
it is unfortunate,
but do you feel that
the horse and carriages fall under the
same problem as
to congestion as the
rickshaws, or that they are worse,
they are not as bad. What is just a
' general opinion?
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October 23, 1986
Col. Vincent: I think they are, in my general opinion, I think they are a
little bit worse, in thetthe animal is unpredictable so much. I think that
when they do come down for their license, the Police Department routes should
be a little different for them then the rickshaws. They shouldn't be as
close to the central core of the Grove. That is my own opinion, sir.
Mr. Plummer.: 0Y, than}- you.
Mayor Suare-.: You guys can make your presentations. I don't know what the
consensus of this Commission is, but in case we can save some time, I am ready
to move the recommendations of the Police Department, with which you agree, I
presume?
Mr. Bellows: Yes, I...
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, may I say for the record also that I would be willing
to do the same, if I saw what new regulations that they are going to put
forth, but we don't have them, so I don't know how we can...
Mayor Suarez: I am satisfied with all the regulations that were already
presented to this Commission the last time around by ordinance and I would be
willing to delegate additional authority to the department to come up
within...
Mr. Plummer: OK, for the essence of time, Mr. Mayor...
Mayor Suarez: Yes.
Mr. Plummer: ... if you want to move it, it has got to come back in the form
of an ordinance, and that time, we can...
Mayor Suarez: It is not in that form yet, that we can vote on, Madam City
Attorney?
Mr. Plummer: It is not before us in ordinance form. So, if you want to move
it to bring it back in the ordinance form at the next Commission meeting, I
will vote for that right now. Save them their time, and they can make their
presentation at the ordinance hearing.
Mayor Suarez: I so move.
Mr. Plummer: I will second it.
Mrs. Kennedy: Under discussion, let me say, Mr. Chi, the other day you
misquoted me to a Miami Herald Neighbors reporter, basically inferring that my
only concern was for Monty Trainer. Let me clear that up. First of all, you
said that everybody in the Grove was in favor of the rickshaws, and I asked
you to check your facts, because a couple of days before, I had spoken to
Rodney Barreto, who works at Monty Trainer's, and he had called precisely to
say that they were against the rickshaws. My concern, sir, is for the
citizens of Coconut Grove. If you remember when this first was discussed in
this Commission, I said I thought it was great, and it would add a lot of
romance to the Grove.
Mr. Tom Chi: I recall, yes Ma'am, I did. I...
Mrs. Kennedy: I voted...
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Mr. Chi: That was not my report that went in the newspaper. I don't know
what the discussion you had with him was. I found that to be interesting, but
I didn't know what the gist of that was, except that I mentioned that it was
important to all the Commissioners that we are able to find some type of
working agreement with Mr. Trainer, so that... you know, he has a lot of
properties and all that, and I said that his main concern was for the
community too, and that is what he told me.
Mrs. Kennedy: OK, well anyway, we voted for the report. It came back, now I
hear that rickshaws do not present a hazard in the Grove, and my concern is -
still safety, and I again would like to find out, Commissioner Plummer has
brought up, you know, what are you going to do: What are you going to propose
to guarantee that don't do the "willys", that they don't go into the
sidewalks, and all these...
26 October 23, 1986
Mr. Chi: First of all, let me state... I will give my name and address. Tom
Chi, 5943 S.W. 60th Street. If I may, can I reserve one minute for my
attorney to speak, when I am done here? I don't want to take too much time.
Mr. Friedland is o•ut here.
Mr. Dawkins: k°ait, hold it. IAA have a motion and there is a second, and under
discussion... the Commissioner has a right to discussion, and after that I
must close ciiscucsion. There is nothing from the floor.
Mr. Chi: I will make it very brief, then, sir.
Mr. Dawkins: There is nothing from the floor.
Mr. Chi: Oh, very good.
Mr. Dawkins: And I am going to call the question!
(AT THIS POINT, THE, CITY CLERK STARTED ROLL CALL)
Mr. Carollo- [filler, if I may, I would like to give the opportunity to anyone
from the floor.
Mr. Dawkins: The Commissioner wants to hear him, all right then, we may hear
you, if the Commissioner desires to you.
Mr. Chi: On the safety issue, we have had between five and eight citations in
the past three for twelve drivers, a total of between five and eight, from the
Police Department, and we have had about 150,000 passengers, so I would say
that is a pretty good record as far as citations and things. We had, I think,
two fender benders and no injuries or anything like that, and we have had
numerous incidents, I would say not overwhelming, but enough incidents that it
was important for the Police Department to address as far as what we could do
not to be a hazard in traffic, and I think that is addressed by the ordinance,
and it gives a $500 fine, and some jail time, if we don't follow that, which
is following the statutes, and a few other things they lined up about safety
and all of that. I know Mr. Carollo, and I believe Mr. Plummer had come down
recently to check out the rickshaw, and you could probably say whether you
feel that they were operating really safely when you came down, whether you
felt that we have made positive improvements that you suggested to us.
Mr. Plummer: Well, my suggestion is, you don't take any more time. You are
ahead of the game today. I would reserve your right for your attorney, and
you have a right to bring him up on the request of Mr. Carollo, but I think
that we ought to wait until the first reading of the ordinance, and that is
when you ought to discuss the matter.
Mr. Chi: Sir, may I ask one question. Is it possible to go back to take the
amendment as far as us being in the town center and go back to the ordinance
the way it was with
Mr. Plummer: That will be up to the recommendations of the Police Department
and the Law Department.
Mr. Chi: I mean, I am sorry... at this time, can we be back to the position
where we were before we had this amendment, and before you suggested having
this study. We had, I think the ordinance was all set and the Police
Department had made their recommendations and everything like that.
Mr. Plummer: I will give you a legal opinion, for all that it is worth... no.
It is a substantive change, and you cannot do it on a substantive change.
Mr. Chi: Even if it goes back to the... OK. She said it wasn't a substantive
change last time.
Mr. Plummer: No, she said there is no ordinance to amend, right now. It has
never been acted on.
Mr. Chi: It was never acted? Then, how come we were...?
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Mrs. Dougherty: We don't have an ordinance before us at this time. This is
simply a discussion item. There is no...
27 October 23, 1986
Mr. Chi: OK, but you can't go into that ordinance and change it, is that
correct?
Mrs. Dougherty: There is nothing to change. We don't have anything before us
now. There is no Amendment before us.
Mr. Chi: OK, it is 10100, is the ordinance, and it...
Mr. Plummer: Pie doesn't iin.derst.^rid.
Mrs. Dougherty: No, we can't do anything today.
Mr. Plummer: Sir, the answer is no.
Mr.. Dawkins: Any further questions from the Commission?
Mr. Bellows: Piny I be heard?
Mr. Dawkins: I'll tell you what you can hear, sir. You can be heard on the
strength of losing the votes that you have, sir.
Mr. Bellows: OK, I don't understand right now. What is the motion on the
floor?
Mr. Plummer: The motion on the floor is to take into a first reading of an
ordinance that is going to be recommended for regulations by the Police
Department, the Law Department, and the Administration, and it will come back
on November 13th as first reading.
Mr. Bellows: OK.
Mr. Dawkins: Maybe first and second, it could be an emergency, we don't know.
Mr. Bellows: OK, may I use the overhead projector to point out the item on
the current ordinance?
Mr. Dawkins: No, you will have to do that, sir, at the second reading. We
are passing this! This is being passed.
Mr. Bellows: Right, but there is a section in there that I am opposing.
Mr. Plummer: You can do that at first reading.
Mr. Bellows: I am sorry?
Mr. Plummer: You can do that at first reading, air.
Mrs. Dougherty: There is nothing we can do now.
Mr. Plummer: There are two readings.
Mr. Chi: Mr. Dawkins: Will this keep us off the street until that time, at
the second reading? We have already been off for a full month now. We have
got 12 people out of work, as far as I can tell. Is there any way we can get
back on the streets?
Mr. Dawkins: Now you will have to ask the City Attorney. Ask the City
Attorney.
Mr. Chi: Madam City Attorney, one thing we are concerned with, is we have
been off the streets and our 12 drivers have been out of work for 30 days now,
and the study said that we are not a problem as long as we follow the
requirements of the ordinance.
Mayor Suarez: She knows what the study says.
Mr. Chi: OK, is there a way that we can get back on the streets so that we
are not out of work, our business is not closed until the second reading of
this new ordinance.
28 October 23, 1986
Mrs. Dougherty: There is no first or second reading yet. The first... we Can
do it by emergency on November 13th, or whenever you bring it back.
Mr. Plummer: Second reading is on the same time.
Mrs. Dougherty: But, you have to comply with the ordinance that is in effect
at this time.
Mr. Chi: OK, very good, thank you very much for your...
Mr. Dawkins: Any further questions from the Commission?
The following motion was introduced by Mayor Suarez, who moved pits
adoption:
MOTJO14 140. 86-837
A MOTION ACCEPTING THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S REPORT ON _
RICKSHAW OPERATIONS IN COCONUT GROVE; FURTHER -
DIRECTING THE CITY ATTORNEY TO DRAFT AN ORDINANCE TO
REGULATE PROPER NONDISRUPTIVE OPERATION OF RICKSHAWS
IN COCONUT GROVE INCORPORATING ALL OF THE
RECOMMENDATIO14S STATED BY THE ADMINISTRATION, SAID
ORDINANCE TO BE BROUGHT BACK ON NOVE14BER 13, 1986 FOR
CONSIDERATIO14 BY THE COMMISSION.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor Miller J. Dawkins
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
Mayor Suarez: You will have a complete hearing at the first, which may and
up being both a first and a second reading. I would be disposed to do it
that way, so you can get yourself back in operation.
Mr. Chi: OK, thank you very much.
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8. GRANT FUNDING FOR ALLAPATTAH MERCHANTS' ASSOCIATION'S FAIR.
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Mayor Suarez: Item number three.
Mr. Odio: I am passing out a recommendation from the Department on the
request from the Allapattah merchant's. According to the letter submitted,
this fair is going to be dedicated to the fight against drugs. This event is
coordinated by seven different community groups in the Allapattah area. They
have requested an amount of $5,000.
Mayor Suarez: Are you recommending it, and if so, where would the funds come
from? Do you have anything in Economic Development, or...?
Mr. Odio: The Department of Parks and Recreation: is not recommending that we
give them the grant. It is recommended that at best, we waive the non -labor
related fee about... that is park and assembly permits equipment rental and
surcharges in the amount of $440, and that is my recommendation.-
Mr. Plummer: How much?
Mr. Odio: $440.
29 October 23, 1986
Mr. Ralph Packingham: Mr. Mayor, Commissioners, and fellow citizens. My name
is Ralph Packingham. I am the chairman of the board of the Allapattah
Merchant's Association. I come to speak to you on behalf of the people of
Allapattah, represented here by the following community agencies: Per. German
Izquierdo, Director of Allapattah Neiphborhood Service Center, Ventro Dade
County; 19s. Leticia Ruz, Executive Director of the fllapattah F.M.C.A.; Mr.
Barriel, Fresidpnt -,f the A))PV,attah Chamber of Commr-rcr-,; Hr. Podriguez,
Chairman of the board of the Allapattah Community Action; Mr. Carlos Brito,
Director of the Board of Off -Street. Parking; tor. Orlando Ilrra, Chairman of the
Board of A.F.D.A. Ve comp to ask you for help and financial assistance to
cover part of tie very high cost bringing about the first annual Allapattah
Festival to be held Saturday, November 8, 1986, and we will have as its theme,
"Say No to Drugs and Crime" The fair will run from 10:00 a.m. to 10:00 p.m.
that Saturday. Continuous music will be provided in the form of live bands and
D.J.'s. Among the many attractions that. we will offer to our community of
Allapattah are, international. foods, a gourmet. delight., the different foods of
our Latin American sister countries; amusement rides and at.t.ractions for the
young and the family in general will be provided. Radio and television
personalities will be present and in this event. Many will be sharing with us
their songs and entertainment. There will be fun booths where people can try
their skills and patience, and where winners will receive a bag of groceries.
We will have a drunk tank, where members of our community have volunteered to
be soaked for that date. We are looking too for extra volunteers and the list
is open for anyone.
Mayor Suarez: Ralph, let me say something that may cut this short, I don't
know, it could always backfire, I suppose.
Mr. Packingham: OK.
Mayor Suarez: I am going to move the application for the grant monies. Just
seeing you up there, is a picture, I think, for all Miamians to see, because
you do have an integrated community. Allapattah has always... I think every
Commissioner here has made a statement at some point to the effect that
Allapattah has been short changed over the years. God knows you need this out
there. The amount of money in question is minimal and the least we can do as
a City to foster commercial and human interaction out there in Allapattah, is
to sponsor this, and I so move.
Mrs. Kennedy: I couldn't have said it better. I am delighted to second.
Mr. Plummer: Let me ask you, where is the money come from? Is it going to
come from the grant of money to Allapattah? We gave them $50,000 for
development, and this is obviously development.
Mr. Odio: we are not recommending, I have not planned any funds for
this. The only other suggestion is if you do vote to give them the money to
see if he allows me to get it from the Law Enforcement Trust Fund, since this
is against...
Mr. Plummer: Well, if it is coming from that fund, I will vote yes.
Mr. Odio: Well, I can.., she says that I am sorry for
Mayor Suarez: It is related to drug control and drug...
Mr. Plummer: Yes, if it is coming from that, I will definitely vote yes.
Mr. Odio: Thank you. He said that the Chief will have to certify it. She
told me that the Chief will have to certify that it is...
Mr. Plummer: Well, OK, I am going to go ahead and vote yes, because there is
no question in my mind that this is a perfect example of that money to be used
for.
Mayor Suarez: I will accept the amendment to my motion, so that it would have
to come out of that fund, which means that the Chief has to certify it.
Mr. Dawkins: Any discussion? Call the roll.
30 October 23, 1986
The following motion was introduced by Mayor Suarez, who moved its
adoptions
MOTION NO. 86-838
A MOTION GRANTING REQUEST RECEIVED FROM ALLAPATTAH
MERCHANTS' ASSOCIATION Its CONNECTION WITH THE HOLDING
OF THE ALLAFATTAH FAIP TO FF HELD NOVEMRER 8, 1986,
WITH THE FPOVIcO THAT FITCii FiTNDS PF MADE AVAILABLE
FROM THE CITY'S I.AW FrtFOrCF.t�FFT TPLTST FUND.
Upon being seconded by Con+nis5icnPr Kennedy, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner. J. L. Flummer, Jr.
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor Miller J. Dawkins
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Mr. Packingham: Thank you.
Mayor Suarez: That sort of limits you a little bit in a sense, but in another
sense, it gets you going, so it sounds like you have to do some lobbying with
the Chief, if that is allowed. I guess it is.
Mr. Packingham: We will work on it, thank you. —
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9. GRANT REQUEST FROM THE "MUNICIPIOS FAIR" TO SELL BEER AND WINE AT ROBERT
KING HIGH PARK - ADD SAID PARK TO MANAGER'S SALE DISCRETION LIST.
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Mrs. Kennedy: OK, could I do a pocket item real fast, Mr. Mayor?
Mayor Suarez: Everybody is hitting me now.
Mrs. Kennedy: This is sort of related. The Municipios is having their annual
fair November 9th at the Robert King High Park, and all they need is
permission from this Commission to sell beer, and...
Mr. Dawkins: We have already had that.
Mrs. Kennedy: No, it hasn't come before us.
Mayor Suarez: Beer and wine?
Mr. Plummer: No, the Manager can do that now administratively.
Mayor Suarez: Do you want to make it in the form of a resolution, rather than
argue about it? -
Mr. Eads: I don't think it is that park.
Mrs. Kennedy: Not for this park. It has to come before us, so I move to
grant them that provision.
Mr. Plummer: Which park?
Mr. Dawkins: I second, and in the second, I amend it that we add this one to
the rest of the parks so they do not have to come back like this again.
Mrs. Kennedy: I accept your amendment.
Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded, with the additional modification for future
action not to have to come back to the Commission on this particular park.
31 October 23, 1986
Any further discussion from the Commission? Parks Department is trying to get
its act together. Call the roll in the meantime, maybe we will sneak it in.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Kennedy, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 86-839
A RESOLUTION GRANTIIJG THE REQUEST FROM REPRESENTATIVES OF
THE "MUNICIPIOS DE CUBA EN EL EXILIO" TO SELL BEER AND
WINE AT ROBERT KING HIGH PARK AT THE ANNUAL FAIR OF SAID
ORGANIZATIO14 TO BE HELD 14OVEMBER 9, 1986; FURTHER STATING
THE INTENT OF T14E CITY COMMISSION THAT ROBERT KING HIGH
PARK BE ADDED TO THF., LIST OF PARKS I14 WHICH THE CITY
MANAGER CAN AUTHORIZE, AT HIS SOLE DISCRETION, SALE OF
ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here
and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Dawkins, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor Miller J. Dawkins
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
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10. IMPLEMENT CITY SPONSORED SCATTERED SITE AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT
PROGRAM.
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Mayor Suarez: Commissioner Dawkins wanted to consider two items from the
consent agenda, items 20 and 21, at this point. I have no problem with that.
Mrs. Kennedy: No, that is not the consent agenda.
Mr. Dawkins: It is not the consent.
Mr. Plummer: Where is the $1,000,000 coming from?
Mayor Suarez: You right, it is not the consent agenda, sir.
Mr. Plummer: Where is the $1,000,000 coming from?
Mr. Dawkins: Speak up, don't everybody speak at once.
Mr. Jerry Gereaux: The $1,000,000 was allocated out of llth Year Community
Development funds for the acquisition of land for future housing reuse. The
money is in place at this time. What we asking for is for the Commission to
designate that for acquisition for this specific program now.
Mr. Plummer: Oh, wait a minute, what locations?
Mr. Gereaux: The locations in this item are scattered sites in the
neighborhoods of Allapattah, Wynwood, Overtown, which the Commission took up
in March.
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Mr. Dawkins: But, does not include Overtown/Park West?
Mr. Gereaux: No, it does not.
Mr. Dawkins: OK, I want to be sure we know that. _
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Mr. Gereaux: No, this is the western park of Overtown.
Mr. Plummer: Miller, let me tell you my concern. My concern is that this
Commission iR voting to spend that money without us knowing exactly the
parcels that are going to be acquired.
Mr. Gereaux: Mr. Commissioner, we...
Mayor Suarez: But, if we specify, then we really push up the...
Mr. Gereaux: We will be taking the parcels that we intend to acquire back,
that is part of the process. You have to approve all acquisitions, and we
will be bringing these parcels back for your consideration and approval.
Mr. Plummer: Each one of them has to be approved by this Commission?
Mr. Gereaux: That is correct.
Mr. Plummer: That's fine.
Mrs. Kennedy: Great. So moved 207
Mr. Dawkins: Move it.
Mr. Plummer: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Item 20 moved by Commissioner Kennedy and seconded. Any
further discussion from the Commission? Hearing none, call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Kennedy, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 86-840
A RESOLUTION APPROVING IMPLEMENTATION OF A CITY SPONSORED
SCATTERED SITE AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM IN
THE CITY'S COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT TARGET AREAS FOR THE
PURPOSE OF PRODUCING SINGLE FAMILY HOMES WITHIN THE
AFFORDABILITY RANGE OF QUALIFIED LOW AND MODERATE INCOME
PURCHASERS; FURTHER AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO
PROCEED IN SECURING APPRAISALS OF HOMESITES WITH INITIAL
EMPHASIS IN THE ALLAPATTAH, WYNWOOD, MODEL CITY AND
OVERTOWN TARGET AREAS AND DESIGNATING PREVIOUSLY
APPROPRIATED 11TH YEAR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT LAND
ACQUISITION FUNDS IN THE AMOUNT OF $1,000,000 TO COVER THE
COST OF SAID HOMESITE ACQUISITION.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here
and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote-
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11. EMERGENCY ORDINANCE: AUTHORIZE ISSUANCE OF SPECIAL OBLIGATION BONDS -
SERIES 1986A - $4,290,000. (THESE BONDS TO BE USED TO BUILD SCATTERED
HOUSING)
Mayor Suarez: Agenda item 21 is a companion. This is an emergency ordinance.
Mr. Carlos Carcla: Mr. Mayor end members of the City Commission, on 21, we
have a revised item 21 that has all the changes and has the blanks filled in.
Mr. Plummer: We have already passed it.
Mr. Robert. Clark: No, that was prior to the numbers being filled in.
Mr. Plummer: Oye vay!
Mr. Odio: They are good numbers, 7.25.
Mr. Plummer: For the record, Carlos, will you state the nature of the
emergency?
Mr. Garcia: Yes, sir. The reason for the emergency is that some of the
documents that you have here have final numbers. If we were to pass this on
two readings, we would have different numbers. As a matter of fact, on the
first reading, you probably will have all blanks. We cannot size up the bond
... until the very last minute, until the time we go to market to find out
what the interest rates are.
Mayor Suarez: Give us an approximate amount, I mean, you don't want to...
Mr. Garcia: OK, the amount of the bonds is $4,290,000, that is what you are
voting on today and the net interest rate is 7.25 percent
Mr. Plummer: What is... OK, we know that $1,000,000 of that is going to be
used on the item above it.
Mr. Garcia: No, sir, that is Community Development funds.
Mr. Clark: That is a separate appropriation already appropriated.
Mr. Plummer: What is this money going to be used for?
Mr. Garcia: I think Mr. Bailey can address that question.
Mayor Suarez: Hopefully, construction.
Mr. Herbert Bailey: Yes, those funds, Commissioner, are to be used by the
Department of Housing to build the scattered site housing in the neighborhood
on the item that you just approved.
Mr. Plummer: Do we have a list of where those monies are going to be spent?
Mr. Bailey: Well, it has to come back before the Commission each time we make
an application to build a house, just when we have to make an application to
use the site.
Mrs. Kennedy: Again it will come back to this Commission, correct?
Mr. Jerry Gereaux: Yes, that will be part of the... also the site approval
process, so where you approve a site, we will explain to you how the financing
is going to be used.
Mr. Plummer: Don't let me catch a dollar of this money being allocated
without Commission approval.
Mr. Gereaux: No, of c- arse not.
Mrs. Kennedy: Under that condition, I move it.
34 October 23, 1986
Mr. Plummer: Second.
Mayor Suarez: So moved and seconded. Any further discussion? Read the
ordinance.
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN EMERGENCY ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE OF
SPECIAL OBLIGATION BONDS, SERIES 1986A PROVIDING FOR
THE TERMS THEREOF AND CERTAIN MATTERS IN CONNECTION
THEREWITH, DECLARING THE ORDINANCE AN EMERGENCY
MEASURE; DISPENSING WITH THE READING OF THE ORDINANCE
ON TWO SEPARATE DAYS; AND FROVIDING AN FFFFCTIVE DATE.
Was introduced by Commissioner Kennedy and seconded by Commissioner
Plummer, for adoption as an emergency measure and dispensing with the
requirement of reading same on two separate days, which was agreed to by the
following vote -
AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor Miller J. Dawkins
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Whereupon the Commission on motion of Commissioner Kennedy and seconded
by Commissioner Plummer, adopted said ordinance by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor Miller J. Dawkins
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
SAID ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO. 10165.
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and
announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commission and
to the public.
12. RATIFY ALLOCATION IN SUPPORT OF EFFORT TO SECURE BASKETBALL FRANCHISE
FROM N.B.A.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, can I make us legal on something we did before?
(THEREUPON, Commissioner Plummer reads resolution into the public record. SRE
HEREINBELOW.) And this also was supposed to include that this was to be tu.,
last 100 tickets sold to put them over the top.
Mr. Odio: They were.
Mr. Plummer: OK, I so move.
Mayor Suarez: So moved.
Mr. Plummer: You recall that we did this before, but this is making it legal.
Mr. Dawkins: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Yes, I sure did. Seconded, any discussion? Call the roll on
that resolution.
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The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 86-841
A RESOLUTION RATIFYING, APPROVING AND CONFIRMING THE
ALLOCATION OF $9,500 FROM SPECIAL PROGRAMS AND ACCOUNTS,
CONTINGENT FLn?D, JN SUPPORT OF THE EFFORT TO SECURE A
FRANCHISE FROM THE INTATIONAL BASKETBALL ASSOCIATION FOR AN
EXPANSION FP,OFFSSJONAL BASKETBALL TEAT", TO BE LOCATED IN
THE CITY OF MIAMI, SAID ALLOCATIONT BFING PLACED IN ESCROW
FOR THE PURCHASE OF I00 RESERVED SFASONT TICKETS FOR THE
HOME GAMES OF SUCH TEAL; WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THE
TICKETS WILL- BECOME AVAILABLE FOR CITY F.MFLOYEES TO BUY AT
THE ORIGINAL PRICE PAID BY THE CITY FOR. SAID TICKETS.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here
and on file in the Office of. the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Dawkins, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor Miller J. Dawkins
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
13. USE OF THE WORD "MIAMI HEAT" IN NAME OF THE N.B.A. FRANCHISE TEAM. (Later
formalized by Res. 86-866.)
Mrs.. Kennedy: And Mr. Mayor, while we are on that, I think that the name,
Miami Heat, should be used. I mean, South Florida, these funds are paid by
the bed tax money used in Miami and Miami Beach. I would like to move to
recommend to Mr. Bufman and his crew to consider that name, and include the
name, Miami in the...
Mr. Dawkins: I couldn't agree more with the Commissioner.
Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded. That is a second, right?
Mr. Dawkins: Yes.
Mayor Suarez: Mr. City Manager, since you have been so intimately involved in
that process and that is the application for a franchise, do you recommend
this as a way of... and I know you agree with the concept, as I do, that the
team should have the name Miami on it. Do you recommend this as a way to try
to influence the people in question? Do you think it might be better to do it
in some other way?
Mr. Odio: I tried every other way. I think we...
Mayor Suarez: The other ways don't work.
Mr. Odio: If we send a copy of the resolution to 2ev Bufman, and hope it is
not too late, I...
Mayor Suarez: I suppose they can always change the name, even after the first
uniforms are made and so on.
Mr. Dawkins: That is right, of course they cant
Mayor Suarez: Any further discussion? Doesn't sound like it is going to
change things one way or the other, but maybe it will influence them a little r.
bit. Call the roll.
36 October 23, 1986
THEREUPON THE FOREGOING MOTION, DULY introduced by
Commissioner Kennedy and seconded by Commissioner
Dawkins, was passed and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Commissioner J. L. F]ummer, Jr.
Vice-Mpa -or f i l l e r J. Dawkins
Mayor },a,•ier L. Suarez
NOES: None
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
(LATER FORMALI7..FD 714TO RESOLUTION NO. 86-866)
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14. ACCEPT CITY AUDIT REGARDING CASINO ESFANOL.
Mayor Suarez: Item 4, Casino Espanol. Seems like we have seen you before.
Mr. Odio: We did have an exit interview, and the backup information includes
both audit reports prior to exit interview and reports after the exit
interview. Sujan, if you want to explain to the Commission the difference.
Mr. Sujan Chhabra: I would like to answer the questions here, sir. Any
questions here?
Mayor Suarez: I haven't had any questions from this for many months, but
maybe the other Commissioners do.
Mr. Dawkins: Did they submit the information you asked for?
Mr. Chhabra: Yes, sir, they dial.
Mr. Dawkins: Move it.
Mr. Odio: There is actually nothing to move, except...
Mr. Dawkins: There must be something to move. They have not billed, and we
don't have a permit. There has got to be something wrong.
Mayor Suarez: Well, you got a lease, right?
Mr. Dawkins: We must have to do something!
Mayor Suarez: The lease is signed, right? Do we move to accept the audit?
Mr. Odio: Actually, this was a request by Commissioner Carollo, and he is not
here, we would have to ask ...
Mayor Suare- Commissioner, this is your request for an audit. Do you have
any questions? No one else has any, Commissioner Carollo. Apparently, there
is nothing to move, either.
Mrs. Kennedy: What are we doing, accepting their audit?
Mr. Odio: No, this... Rosario...
Mr. Dawkins: Commissioner Carollo asked for some information, and now, we... I
understand.
Mr. Carollo: I don't really see any sense in discussing this issue any
further. From day one this tract was reserved for this group. It doesn't
really make any sense, as I see it now, or does it really matter, it is not
worth it to anyone trying to do what is right for this City, so let the show
go onl
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Mrs. Kennedy:
Mr. Dawkins: I moved it. He said he has got no further questions.
Mayor Suarez: Move acceptance of the audit, is that what you said#
Commissioner?
Mr. Dawkins: Yes.
Mayor Suarez: Do we have a second?
Mr. Plummer: OK, I am sorry. I was out of the room, I did not hear his
comments, and I wanted to. What is the motion on the floor?
Mayor Suarez: To accept the audit.
Mr. Plummer: Accept. the audit, of course. I have no with the audit.
Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded. Doesn't seem to be any other action that
is required of this Commission that anybody can figure out at this point?
Mr. Plummer: Well, Mr. Mayor, let's put on the record, just so that...
Mayor Suarez: Commissioner Plummer.
Mr. Plummer:... you know, C.Y.A. Mr. Manager, through you, to the person who
did the audit, I am assuming for the record, that you received any and all
documents that you so requested from this organization, is that correct?
Mr. Odio: Did you receive all the records?
Mr. Chhabra: Yes, sir.
Mr. Odio: Yes, sir. We had an exit conference with them and everything
was...
Mr. Plummer: The last time this matter was before us, there was an
accusation... not an accusation, there was a statement made that certain
documents had not been forwarded.
Mr. Chhabra: We already received those.
Mr. Plummer: You are now telling me for the record, you have received all of
the documents.
Mr. Chhabra: All those bank statements what we are talking about.
Mr. Plummer: All right, my next question is sir, in your professional
capacity, doing that audit, did you find anything in there of an impropriety
that should bother, or be of concern to this Commission.
Mr. Chhabra: The revenues were $163,526.
Mr. Plummer: Excuse me?
Mr. Chhabra: The revenues...
Mr. Plummer: Yes. Is there anything in that audit that you feel that this
Commission should concern itself about?
Mr. Chhabra: I don't think so, sir.
Mr. Plummer: All right, thank you.
Mayor Suarez: There is a motion and a second. Any further discussion?
Mr. Hirai: I have a move for Commissioner Dawkins and who seconds, Mr. Mayor?
Mr. Plummer: To accept the audit? I second the motion.
Mayor Suarez: Moved and second, any further discussion? Hearing none, please
call the roll.
38 October 23, 1986
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Dawkins, who moved
its adoption:
MOTION NO. 86-843
A MOTION ACCEPTING THE, CITY AUDIT RECENTLY CONDUCTED
IN CONNECTION WITH CASINO FSPANOL.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Vice -Mayor Ni1Jrr J. Dawkins
Mayor Xavier L. Sutrez
NOES Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
ABSENT: None.
ON ROLL CALL:
Mr. Carollo: I vote no, because I don't believe it is accurate.
Mrs. Kennedy: I will say what I have always said since the beginning, giving
this precious and valuable piece of property to Casino Espanol is not in the
best interest of the City, and therefore, I vote no.
Mr. Plummer: May I ask now for the record, Mr. Manager, sir, you have on this
agenda, the revocation of the option being held by the Miami Barge? At the
time of the initial request of the Casino Espanol, there was a discussion at
that time that possibly the City would want Casino Espanol to take that
parcel, if it became available, or not take that parcel. I am asking only for
the record, since these people are here. What is your opinion, if any, that
you wish to express at this time? Or, do you want to think about it and come
back later, because they are going to be filing applications for permits.
Mr. Carollo: Let me tell you how I feel. I think that piece of property, if
indeed the arguments that the Administration has given are accurate, should be
kept by the City of Miami, and not be given away.
Mr. Plummer: OK, but Joe, I wasn't speaking of giving it away, but swapping
the location designated for Casino Espanol, swapping that for the option of
the Miami Barge, which we are going to, I assume, vote to take away today.
They have had it three years and have not done a thing with it, so all I am
asking is, not to give away another parcel. Was it more advantageous to the
City to have them have one or the other, that's all I asking.
Mr. Odio: Commissioner, if I may, there might be a legal question here, and I
would like to ask the City Attorney, because I don't believe you would have to
go for another R.F.P. on that property before you can give that.
Mr. Plummer: Then that is your answer. Thank you.
Mr. Odio: You are welcome.
Mr. Plummer: OK.
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15. POSTPONE RECONSIDERATION OF POST OFFICE PROJECT.
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Mayor Suarez: Agenda item five, Post Office Plaza. Is this all for
discussion at your request, Commissioner Carollo7 _+
Mr. Carollo: That's correct. It is clear.
Mayor Sucre.:: You want to hear from the applicant, the prior applicant, or
what are we going to...?
Mr. Robert N. Traurig: Actually, I didn't specifically request it, but I
would like to comment on it, if...
Mayor Suarez: I don't remember seeing you on this the last time around!
Mr. Traurig: No, I was not involved at that time, but I do want, on behalf of
those applicants to make a statement if the Commission would hear it.
Mayor Suarez: This is Commissioner Carollo's item. I presume that is what he
wants. Please proceed.
Mr. Traurig: I really thought that. perhaps Commissioner Carollo wanted to
make a comment, and then I would follow.
Mr. Carollo: I think the comment is clear, based on what is being requested.
The question is, will the Commission reconsider this whole item again?
Mayor Suarez: OK.
Mr. Traurig: Mr. Mayor and members of the Commission, my name is Robert H.
Traurig. I am an attorney with offices at 1401 Brickell Avenue, and I am
representing those applicants, and particularly Mr. Ronald Fine. You will
recall that this matter was presented to you on January 23rd and at that
initial presentation, the Commission denied the application three to two.
Voting in favor of the application at that time were Commissioners Plummer and
Carollo. Those who voted against it made various comments. You, Mayor
Suarez, indicated that you were concerned about the light plane and the
parking structure. Commissioner Kennedy indicated that although the height
was within the code, it should be reduced in order to avoid the light plane
variance. Commissioner Dawkins indicated that although he was generally in
favor, he was going to vote against it, since he had appointed a task force to
review the plan and to report to him on their reaction to it, and that they
had recommended denial and he was going to follow their recommendations. But,
generally, the comments regarding the plan were favorable. The Commission
liked the plan, but indicated that if the applicant would reduce the size of
the project, that it should then be brought back to the Commission for further
consideration. Changes were made in the Plan to reduce its intensity, and to
comply with the comments of the Commissioners concerning the light plane.
They removed one floor, they eliminated the light plane variance. They added
a sixth loading bay, and they urged that it be back on the agenda at the
earliest possible time. It was placed on an agenda in February and then
withdrawn. It was placed on an agenda in March and then withdrawn, and we
believe that it ought to be reconsidered in view of the fact that the
architectural changes and the reduction of intensity have now mitigated the
issues that were present at that time, and although this is not a formal
public hearing in which neighbors can make comments, we asked for the
opportunity through a public notice and a new hearing, to have another
opportunity to present it to you with the revised plan. We urge that,
notwithstanding the fact that there is another item on this agenda which would
limit the time within which there can be reconsideration by this Commission,
that this predates all current considerations, and that it ought to, in
fairness be revisited by the Commission in view of the diligence with which
the applicant did make the changes in the plan, and ask for a rehearing on it.
That, basically is the positior. of the applicant at this time, Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Suarez: You know, there has been a... I guess you know this better the
anyone else, there has been a sort of ambiguity in the coda as to whether wo
can consider this so many months after the initial consideration and denial,
40 October 23, 1986
even if one of the people who voted against it wanted to have it reconsidered.
That is exactly what we are trying to clarify by passing a new ordinance,
which you have just stated is on the agenda for today. I wasn't even aware of
that.
Mr. Flummer: Well., I think there is another consideration, Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Suarez: Yes, Commissioner.
Mr. Flummer: I think we have to consider that at the last meeting we had here
appear a group of people that live on Florida Avenue, asking for
consideration, that their street be re -studied, because in fact, their street
wasn't a real residential, as it had been in the past, and this Commission, as
I recall, turned to the Flanning Department and said, study the street.
(INAUDIBLE BACKGFOU14D C07,1MENTS)
Mr. Plummer: Is that... we did not?
(INAUDIBLE BACKGROUND COMMENTS)
Mr. Plummer: Well, what was the action of this... Sergio, come up... what was
the action of this Commission and their request?
Mayor Suarez: We were going to study the question of having a study, I think.
Mr. Rodriguez: No action.
Mr. Plummer: No, action? Well, I guess the point I am trying to make is,
that the people who lived on Florida Avenue were the most vocal, and they were
the most outspoken of the objectors, and those people now are coming in before
this Commission as a group of themselves, making a recognition that this
street is not what it was the years ago that they bought it.
Mr. John Green: Some of the people who live on Florida Avenue.
Mr. Plummer: Excuse me?
Mr. Green: Some of the people who live on Florida Avenue.
Mr. Plummer: All right sir, well, OK, some, and based on that, I am wondering
if we really don't need to get that study done, if it is the feeling of this
Commission.
Mayor Suarez: Was that the basic thrust, you think, of that presentation that
was made by the citizens, that they would be happy with this particular zone?
Mr. Plummer: No, I don't think it was. I think, as you know, they showed us
a video tape of the amount of traffic on the street. You know, I think it was
a recognition on their behalf, that that street, as close it is to commercial,
is not a pleasant, little quiet, bedroom type of street, single family, and I
thought we had told the Department to study it and come back to usl Was their
an objection to the study being done?
Mr. Dawkins: Well, what we said, Commissioner, was that if everybody came in _
and wanted their street studied, we would never get though studying, and since
that...
Mr. Plummer: All of them, or a majority?
Mr. Dawkins: No, and we said that if everybody, every street came in and
wanted to be studied, we could never get finished.
Mr. Plummer: OK, you are right, I remember now. —
Mrs. Kennedy: Right, I remember.
Mr. Plummer: OK. Here again, I just brought that up, because it was
interjected at the last meeting, so what you are saying... I guess really, I
will shut up, because I was not on the prevailing side of the original vote,
so I will be quiet. Let's listen to the wisdom of the others. Well, my
understanding is, one of the three of the prevailing side, which wait... has ?'
got to make a motion, or that is it.
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Mr. Dougherty: No prevailing side requirement in Masons
Mr. Plummer: Oh, OK.
Mrs. Kennedy: Who put this item on the agendal -
Mr. Carollo: T put the item on the agenda for discussion. Now, what is the
City Attorney, feels that this Commission can do or not do?
Mrs. Dougherty: Commissioner Carollc, unlike Dade County and many other
municipalities, which have some sort of regulations similar to the one that
you have on your agenda for first reeding today, that is you may not consider
an item past a certain date, like one Commission Mc eting or two Commission
Meetings after the one it was denied or appro-,red. We don't have such a
regulation in our Code or our Zoning Ordinance and, therefore, it is our
opinion that you can reconsider an item even as late as today from the time
that it was denied. But, thatputs you back in the exact same situation you
were in when you denied it before you denied it. The only thing is you have
to set it for a future date and a future public hearing for the substantive
part of the ordinance. So the only thing before you today is whether or not
you want to consider it at a future time.
Mr. Plummer: Would you be considering at the future time the actual
application or whether or not to hear it?
Mrs. Dougherty: You'd be considering the actual application.
Mayor Suarez: And that could be, just to see if I understand all this, that
could be either, for example, November or December or January and if it were
January we'd be right up against the year.
Mrs. Dougherty: That's correct.
Mayor Suarez: ...restriction that the Code calls for. I really don't know
why not wait the extra two months. How does the Commission want to handle
this, do you want to hear from any of the groups that previously objected?
Mr. Robert Traurig: Mr. Mayor, we're merely asking you, you know, to
reschedule it so that those groups can appear and oppose if in their wisdom it
ought to be opposed but so that you can give an objective review of the
changes that have been made since the original presentation.
Mayor Suarez: We're sort of caught in a bind here because I know that the
Planning Director does not want to give an opinion on this in view of changes
until the full year has elapsed because he sort of, he likes the procedural
safeguard of waiting a year. Where is he, by the way, is he hiding back there
behind the projector? Are you ready, sir, to give us any different
recommendation if this matter were heard in the next month than you did last
time around?
INAUDIBLE RESPONSE
Mayor Suarez: Yes, for once, I'm inclined to follow your recommendation,
Sergio.
Mr. Plummer: For once.
Mr. Rodriguez: That's refreshing. We actually don't have in front of us any
application at this time.
Mr. Plummer: Well, I guess the real question has to be asked is have you seen
the so-called substantive changes that they have made? Do you feel that there
is a basis for rehearing? Because if there are no substantive changes made
then there is no basis.
Mr. Rodriguez: I think a determination has to be made by each one of you
individually because it is a reconsideration of your vote.
Mr. Plummer: We've not seen them.
Mr. Rodriguez: Well, then I think you should see it maybe individually.
42 October 23, 1986
Mrs. Kennedy: I have, I still would like your opinion.
Mayor Suarez: Same here.
Mr. Rodriguez: My opinion is that they have changed from what they proposed _
originally. r
Mayor Suarez: And that now you might be disposed to favor it, is that what
you're saying?
Mr. Rodriguez: No, I'm not saying that, I'm saying that they have changed so
if you want to know whether there has been a change in the proposal yes, there
has been a change.
Mr. Plummer: Is it a substantive change?
Mr. Rodriguez: There is a substantive change as to the area to the size of
the building. The issue of whether we should have a special exception to have
parking in the bacP is the same issue as we had before; but yes, there has
been a change, there has been a reduction of the building, there has been a
reduction of the setback, there has been some changes on the areas of the
angles, and so on, but there have been changes, definitely, yes.
Mr. Carollo: I think he has answered it as best he can. How can he recommend
for or Against something when he really hasn't had the opportunity to really
go over it carefully. All that he can tell you is what he has, that there has
been, you know, changes.
Mayor Suarez: Do you want to go ahead and make a statement?
Mr. John Green: My name is John Green, I live at 3158 Florida Avenue, and
frankly, I don't want to make a statement, but I am forced to.
Mayor Suarez: You don't?
Mr. Green: I don't want to, but I am forced to. Just on what has been said,
if there have been substantive changes, then it is a different project, and it
should go through the procedure that is prescribed in the zoning ordinance.
The zoning ordinance does prescribe certain procedures.
Mayor Suarez: Does it make a lot of difference to you that the only
substantive difference that I see is that we might have to wait until January
to reconsider.
Mr. Green: Well, I've seen the changes. I've seen artist's renderings, I've
not seen architectural drawings, I don't know if any exist.
Mayor Suarez: Well, you may not be satisfied with the changes, but I mean
is...
Mr. Green: I am not satisfied with what I believe them to be, but until I see
architectural drawings, I, myself, would not make any comment other than that.
When Mr. Fine came to me in the first place...
Mr. Plummer: I think what the Mayor is asking you, legally he can come back
without this Commission's approval in January, and it is pretty obvious, the
intent is that they are. Does it make any difference to you now, if it were
to be heard in November, at which time they would have to give the
architectural drawings and all of that. In other words, it is two months...
i
Mayor Suarez: They are holding on to a project, they have debt service, you
know... they have certain expenses for holding on to it and so on, you know,
they would like to get their project moving, and if they have in fact made
changes, and if those changes happen to be substantive enough to get a
different recommendation from citizen groups and from the Planning Director,
who in this case, I tend to agree with.
1
Mr. Green: He has already discussed it with the three different civic ?,
associations in Coconut Grove, and he also had a dinner at the new Orange Bowl
room, where he showed his artist's renderings, which are quite beautiful, by
the wayl The White House is beautiful. It doesn't belong behind my house, r
though. I wouldn't want it there!
43 October 23, 1986
Mayor Suarez: But, what objections do you have, other than a purely
procedural., technical objection to our hearing this in November, as opposed to
January? You can't have any objections to our hearing it eventually.
Eventually, we...
Mr. Green: FFcFuse I believe that if he wants to reapply, he should reapply
under 4.hF riflFs, which would make it go through several processes before it
got back to the Commission again.
Mayor Suarez.: Is that. the cpFF, supposing that we were requiring it to come
back at the end of the full one year, they would have to go through a whole
bunch of procedural steps before it got to the Commission?
Mr. Green: He would hSve to reapply.
Mayor Suarez: Such as...
Mr. Green: Have to go through the Zoning Board.
Mayor Suarez: We. can't waive those7 ... having hear this item one time,
having made certain objections, having presumably...
Mr. Green: it. is different. It is a new project.
(INAUDIBLE BACKGROUND COMMENT)
Mr. Green: And it would also cost him about $20,000.
Mayor Suarez: But, you are telling me what I know already. Is there no way
for this Commission in that circumstance, because it wants to move on
something, that it has already heard plenty of times, to waive all of that and
have it brought to the Commission directly?
Mr. Green: You can ask that to a legal counsel.
Mayor Suarez: Madam City Attorney?
Mrs. Kennedy: I just want to say that since it is a new project...
Mayor Suarez: It is a new ball game, I know, but can a new ball game be...
can you waive the rules so that you end up considering it in January, as
opposed to whenever...
Mr. Dawkins: Winding up in jail.
Mayor Suarez: Without ending up in jail. Commissioner Dawkins, thank you for
the caveat there.
Mr. Green: May I read a letter that...
Mayor Suarez: Wait, wait, let me just get a legal opinion on that, because if
we are arguing about two months, it just doesn't seem like it is worth the
argument, really.
Mrs. Dougherty: Would you explain the question again?
Mayor Suarez: Supposing we wanted to reconsider this, I don't know if we want
to call it reconsider... consider the application for the changes and the
variances and the exceptions and so on, that this project entails, in January,
once the year is up, could we do it right in one fell swoop at the Commission
level, can we waive all the other procedural steps in view of the fact that we
have seen a very similar project?
Mrs. Dougherty: No, what we are doing is, there are two different procedural
methods. Night now, he is proposing, or advocating a reconsideration of that
exact application, which is diminished by variances. OK, so it is a lesser
application of it before, and modifications in that respect. The other one,
the year application, which would require him to go through the entire
process again.
Mayor Suarez: And that might mean another few months.
44 October 23, 1986
Mr. Treurig: Yes, and that would probably get here in April, after A $90,000
additional filing fee, perhaps.
Mayor Suarez: Well, the filing fee is a factor, too.
Mr. TrFvrig. Well, it wasn't a factor when we first asked for the
reconsideration. It. is obviously beneficial to the applicant not to have to
pay an entirely neu> filing. fee for review of plans that have previously been
reviei---ed, and for notices, yc.a know, to the same people who already have
notices.
Mr. Green: U?ell, we also 1}ave Expenses too, that we can't afford - and we
have to have time to come up with our arguments too. You know, they have got
millions, we have got. just. hundreds to fight our cause, and I...
Mayor Suarez: Well, but the time thing can be resolved by a compromise, where
we don't set it for November, but set it for December, or whatever, January
even.
(INAUDIBLE BACKGROUND COMMENT)
Mayor. Suarez: What was that? I missed that, John.
Mr. Green: Merry Christmas.
Mayor Suarez: Merry Christmas.
Mr. Plummer: Jingle Bellsl
Mayor Suarez: You don't work around Christmas time on these zoning cases,
huh?
Mr. Green: I don't want to.
Mayor Suarez: Get the mike a little closer to you and give us your name and 1L
address.
Mrs. Grady Dinkins: I'm Grady Dinkins, and I live at 3201 Florida Avenue, and
I have gone to all of the reviewing sessions that Mr. Fine had. I am
representing my organization, Homeowner's and Tenant's Association, and we had
him, and I went down to Columbus Hotel, and had and of course, we
couldn't see the changes. We just heard what he said, and I don't believe
that he has made any changes on it. He said he took off one floor off that
building.
Mayor Suarez: The parking?
Mrs. Dinkins: No, the building.
Mayor Suarez: Oh, the building.
Mrs. Dinkins: The parking is the same, and now...
Mayor Suarez: The parking is the same? The same number of stories in the
parking lot?... the parking structure?
Mrs. Dinkins: Sure, that is right. Sure, he hasn't changed it.
Mayor Suarez: After the Planning Department recommended going from four, I
think, to one underground and one above ground?
Mrs. Dinkins: He didn't say that in his presentation at all.
Mayor Suarez: Four stories still.
Mrs. Dinkins: It is the same thing that he had before, and I feel that he
should not be given special treatment by this Commission. He is no different
from any of us.
Mayor Suarez: That is only special treatment in the procedural sense, no in a
substantive sense.
45 October 23, 1986
Mrs. Dinkins: We have been down here, this is our third time now, and we have
to get off our jobs end come down here and just because Mr. Fine wants it to
be reconsidered, but ,you said that it was not acceptable, and you denied it,
and I think that he has a right to wait until his time comes again, regardless
of how much money he has spent. The City needs that money anyway, so, lethim
pay i.t.
Mayor Suarez: From what I have heard, and if what you say is correct, I still
am going to vote against it, but that doesn't solve the problem that we here
on, and I will entertain a motion from this Commission as to when it wants to
have the item heard on a reconsideration basis, or not.
Mr.. Plummer: Well, I will give you my opinion. My opinion is, I have not
seen the changes. I think I have the right, as well as other members, to see
the changes that they are proffering, and I'd like to give them that
opportunity, and at, the next meeting I will be prepared to vote that. I think
there is a substantive change, or there is not, but at this meeting, without
seeing the substantive changes, or the changes that they are talking about, I
am not prepared to vote. I'd make a motion that this matter be deferred over
to the next Commission meeting of November 13th.
Mr. Dawkins: There is no substantive changes, as he said, this was denied and
this was brought back to get three votes in order to see if it could be
reconsidered, so that is the i.ssue, so let's don't cloud the issue. Those of
us who are going to vote that Mr. Fine be allowed to bring his project back
for reconsideration, that is the issue(
Mr. Plummer: I understand the issue, but I am not going to vote to
reconsider, my colleague, without knowing, what in fact, are the so-called
substantive issues. I might not find it that way, and I would vote against
the reconsideration, OK?... if there are major changes. As you know, I voted
for the original. Now, if...
Mayor Suarez: There is a motion to defer the reconsideration, then, at this
point.
Mr. Plummer: Until the next meeting, and assuming they come and show me what
the substantive changes are. I might agree or disagree, but at this point, I
don't know what they are.
Mr. Carollo: Second.
Mayor Suarez: It is seconded, Commissioner Carollo. It gives us a little
additional time, all of us, and I suppose it doesn't solve the final problem.
It doesn't even begin to solve it, but at least it gives everyone more time to
do their battling. Any further discussion? Call the roll.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved
its adoption:
MOTION NO. 86-844
A MOTION POSTPONING RECONSIDERATION OF THE POST OFFICE
PLAZA PROJECT; FURTHER DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO
RESCHEDULE THIS ISSUE FOR THE NEXT COMMISSION MEETING
PRESENTLY SCHEDULED FOR NOVEMBER 13, 1986.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Carollo, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: Vice -Mayor Miller J. Dawkins
ABSENT: None
Mayor Suarez: That is to a specific date, I guess, huh? It doesn't have to
be.
46 October 23, 1986
Mr. Plummer: The 13th.
Mr. Dawkins: J.L. said the next meeting.
Mayor Suarez: He gave a date. The very next Commission meeting, of the next
Planning and Zoning7
Mr. Plummer: No, sir, the next Commission meeting.
Mr. Dawkins: The next Commission meeting.
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16. ALLOW FIREWORKS DISPLAY AT FLAGLER DOG TRACK (INTERNATIONAL CLASSIC)
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Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, could I bring up this item? It is a timed item.
Mayor Suarez: Certainly.
Mr. Plummer: Flegler Dog Track has asked for the waiver of a fireworks
display with their international classic. As you know, our ordinance only
allows it up to 10:00 p.m. They are asking for 11:30 p.m., which is basically
before the midnight, which we had set. I so move that they be granted that
permission.
Mr. Dawkins: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded. Any discussion? Call the roll on that
motion.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 86-845
A RESOLUTION RELAXING THE TIME LIMITATION ON FIREWORKS
DISPLAYS EXTENDING THE TIME FOR SUCH DISPLAY UNTIL
11:30 P.M. ON OCTOBER 25, 1986 AT THE FLAGLER DOG
TRACK, NORTHWEST 7TH STREET AND 37TH AVENUE, IN
CONNECTION WITH THE INTERNATIONAL CLASSIC EVENT HELD
AT SAID LOCATION.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Dawkins, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy -
Vice -Mayor Miller J. Dawkins
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
47 October 23, 1986
w
17. FUND BETHUNE COOKMAN ORANGE BOWL COLLEGE FOOTBALL GAME.
Mayor Suarez: Item 6. Proceed. Nome and address, and if you are compensated
for your appearance here today, which I gather you are not, I suspect your
not, then you don't need to file any registration forms with the City.
Mr. Robert Edwards: 1'y name is Robert rdwards, I live at 17241 N.W. 9th
Place, Miami, Florida, and 1 Frr representing the Bethune Cookman College
Alumni Association, on behalf of the football game.
Mr. Carollo: If I may, what 1 requested for this item to be brought up, and
what I'd like to propose t.o the Commission that we give them either eight
percent, or $8,000, whichever is greater, and that we also buy some tickets,
maybe 500 tickets to be given away.
Mr. Plummer: Does the $8,000 guarantee cover the expenses?
Mr. Edwards: 11o, it doesn't.
Mr. Walter Golby: 11o, it does not.
Mr. Plummer: How much are the expenses?
Mr. Golby: Total expenses for the Orange Bowl is at $17,000.
Mr. Plummer: What is the chances of the eight percent getting to that figure?
Mayor Suarez: What attendance would they need to have, if you have calculated
that, Walter?
Mr. Golby: 25,000.
Mr. Plummer: How much attendance did they have for the Orange Blossom?
Mr. Golby: 17,600.
Mr. Carollo: Well, I am willing to go with a higher figure if my colleagues
so desire.
Mayor Suarez: I really think we have to figure out ways to encourage use of
the Orange Bowl, aside from every other consideration.
Mr. Plummer: Well, we are working on that, but...
Mr. Odio: Yes, sir, we have another item on the agenda, but...
Mayor Suarez: We have lost some money in the past with some of your other _
items on the agenda relating to the use of the Orange Bowl, Mr. City Manager,
including the Winter Games that we never got a final report on, and...
Mr. Odio: Yes, we lost money on the Winter Games, but not in the Orange Bowl.
Mr. Dawkins: Well, I have to second Commissioner Carollo, as much as I don't
want to give away any money, but we did the same thing for the University of
Miami, the same thing that Commissioner Carollo is suggesting that you be fair
with, with somebody else, you did it with the University of Miami!
Mr. Plummer: Call the roll.
Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded. Any discussion from the Commission? Call
the roll.
5 T;.
Mr. Carollo: The motion is eight percent, or $8,000, whichever is greater,
i and that we buy 500 tickets.
Mayor Suarez: What is the cost of that, 500 tickets?
t
Mr. Odio: I don't know what the price is.
48 October 23, 1986
Mr. Williams: That is at $12 per ticket.
Mayor Suarez: $6,000. There goes our $8,000.
Mr. Dawkins: Well, wAit now, since Commissioner Carollo and I, I think we can
get together. We said that, we were going to fund festivals to the tune of
$50,000, is t.h:.t. correct? l am talking to my Commissioners.
Mr. Plummer: Totally? Total two hundred.
Mr. Dawkins: Yes. but: $50,000 each, right?
Mr. Plummer: Right.
Mr. Dawkins: So we just gave $35,000, to ...
Mr. Carollo: Up to $50,000 for each one.
Mr. Dawkins: Yes, $50,000 for each, OK. So, we gave $35,000 to...
Mr. Plummer: To Classic.
Mr. Dawkins: To Orange Blossom Classic. Would anybody be in favor, since
there is $15,000 shortfall, then award the $15,000 to Bethune-Cookman, or do
we...
Mr. Plummer: Sure, why not.
Mr. Dawkins: Or do you just want to leave it?
Mr. Plummer: That's fine.
Mrs. Kennedy: Fine with me.
Mr. Plummer: That will do it.
Mr. Dawkins: OK, make a motion, Joe.
Mr. Carollo: The motion is that we award $15,000.
Mayor Suarez: Now, how does the package look? That is going to be part of
the money used to purchase tickets, I presume, right?
Mr. Dawkins: That is the total package.
Mayor Suarez: And that includes, then the expected loss from the use of the
facility that day, is that what you are saying?
Mr. Carollo: Well, it is...
Mr. Golby: And there will be a loss on that basis.
Mayor Suarez: You are saying it is the nine plus the six, right?
Mr. Plummer: Well, wait a minute, you are talking about $15,000 plus $8,000.
Mr. Carollo: No, just $15,000 across the board.
Mayor Suarez: I think that makes it $9,000 that we might lose on it, plus the
$6,000 for purchasing the tickets, constitutes $15,000.
Mr. Dawkins: How are we going to lose?
Mayor Suarez: If it cost us $17,000, and they only produce $9,000, or
whatever the figure was... $8,000.
Mr. Dawkins: But, we are giving them $15,000, so they only have to come up
with $2,000.
Mr. Golby: No, you figure that the tickets, they would only get seven percent
of the gross sale of the tickets.
49 October 23, 1986
Mr. Dawkins: Yes, right.
Mr. Plummer: That is not the point. What he is saying is, if you give them
$15,000, OK, you take $6,000 from that of the tickets, it leaves $9,000. If
you have got 59,000, we address that to the rent. That is what he is saying.
Mr. Golby: Thr 59,000, we have not figured any rent in this particular
$17,000 figure.
Mr. Flummer: Put., the original motion contained $8,000, or eight percent, so
you are not at loss at all, you are exactly even. You have got $15,000 plus
$8,000 is $23,000. You have got $6,000 for tickets. You have got $17,000 for
rental, isn't that what you said?
Mr. Golby: Kight.
Mr. Plummer: All right, $17,000 for rental and $6,000 is $23,000! Balance a
negative.
Mayor Suarez: But, $17,000, if they guarantee $8,000 means $9,000 net loss to
the City, plus $6,000 for tickets equals S15,000, which I believe is what the _
motion means, right?
Mr. Plummer: Exactly, that is where the $15,000 is coming from, it is a washl
Mayor Suarez: All right, that is understood. It is not a $15,000 grant in
addition to the waiver., and the tickets.
Mr. Carollo: It is a total of $15,000.
Mayor Suarez: All right, call the roll on the motion as understood.
Mr. Carollo: Which is almost about the same as we were offering before, the
eight percent, or $8,000, and $6,000 for the tickets.
Mayor Suarez: $9,000 plus $6,000 is $15,000, great.
Mr. Dawkins: They don't have to go find the money now. They have already got
the moneyl
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Carollo, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 86-846
A RESOLUTION ALLOCATING A TOTAL AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED
$15,000 FROM SPECIAL PROGRAMS AND ACCOUNTS, CONTINGENT
FUND IN SUPPORT OF THE BETHUNE COOKMAN ORANGE BOWL
COLLEGE FOOTBALL GAME TO BE HELD NOVEMBER 8, 1986 IN
THE CITY OF MIAMI ORANGE BOWL STADIUM TO COVER PARTIAL
COSTS FOR CITY IN -KIND SERVICES AND STADIUM EXPENSES
RELATED TO SAID EVENT IN THE AMOUNT OF $9,000 AND FOR
THE PURCHASE OF TICKETS IN THE AMOUNT OF $6,000,
PROVIDING THAT THE CITY BE NAMED COSPONSOR OF THE
EVENT; FURTHER SUBJECT TO AND CONTINGENT UPON
COMPLIANCE WITH SUCH CONDITIONS AND LIMITATIONS AS MAY
BE PRESCRIBED BY THE CITY OF MIAMI.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Dawkins, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote-
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor Miller J. Dawkins
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
Mayor Suarez: Higher mathematics! Thank you for your presentation.
Mr. Edwards: Thank you very much.
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18. ORANGE BOWIE COMMITTEE APPOINTMENT (APPOINT JIM ARMSTRONG TO REPLACE ERNIE
SILER)
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, while we are on the Orange Bowl. Mr. Mayor, let me
put on the record... as you know, I head up this committee of which I am
calling a meeting this coming week. It had been brought to my attention that
it was the mandate of this Commission that one member of that committee had to
be from the Orange Bowl Committee.
Mayor Suarez: I remember that.
Mr. Plummer: All right, I called Mr. Stan Marks and asked him to recommend a
member, which he did, which is Mr. Jim Armstrong, who I'm going to appoint,
because mine, Ernie Siler, is not physically able to do it. Now, the point
that I want to put on the record, you appointed Mr. Jose Garcia Pedrosa. They
are both of the same law firm.
Mayor Suarez: Oh!
Mrs. Dougherty: No, they aren't.
Mr. Plummer: They are not?
Mayor Suarez: Does that create a problem?
Mr. Plummer: I don't know that it will. I am just putting it on the record.
Mrs. Dougherty: Jim Armstrong is with Smathers and Thompson, and Jose is with
Finley Kumble, as far as I know.
Mayor Suarez: Yes, Jose is with Finley Kumble.
Mr. Plummer: So they are not of the same law firm?
Mrs. Dougherty: No.
Mr. Plummer: Thank you.
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19. DEMOLISH UNSAFE STRUCTURES THROUGHOUT CITY.
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Mayor Suarez: Item 6.1.
Mrs. Kennedy: tor. Mayor, I have a video tape that I would like to show all of
you. This is an abandoned house located at 1401 N.W. 45th Street. I
personally went. to see the house, and it is indeed in a terrible condition.
It invites drug addicts and derelicts and they use it as an overnight shelter.
It is located near an elementary school, so it is very, very dangerous for
small children. The surrounding houses on the other side are very neatly
kept, and the neighbors take great pride in their houses, so I really believe
it is our duty to help the neighbors who keep their houses that way, and I
would like at this point., to show the video tape. See, that is the house,
right there.
Mr. Plummer: Where is the structure?
Mrs. Kennedy: What?
Mr. Plummer: Where is the structure?
Mrs. Kennedy: Hold on a second, it is on your right, coming now. See? It is
full of rats, the roof is falling.
Mr. Odio: It looks like a crack house.
Mr. Plummer: That house is full of cracks!
Mr. Dawkins: Can't sell those cracks.
Mr. Plummer: If that doesn't say paid political announcement at the end...!
Mrs. Kennedy: OK, so, Mr. Manager?
Mr. Plummer: Who is the owner?
Mr. Pierce: The owner is L. C. Stafford.
Mr. Plummer: Was he invited to this party?
Mr. Pierce: No, we didn't have to invite him. He has already been invited to
a couple of parties before, specifically, on August 12th, the Dade County
Unsafe Structures Board ordered that the owner be given 15 days to demolish
and remove all debris from the premises, or the City of Miami would demolish
it.
Mr. Plummer: So, what are you waiting for?
Mr. Pierce: Money, we just got it, on this particular...
Mr. Odio: We have got the money.
Mr. Pierce: On this particular one, we did. We got the money, it is now in
the process of a bid being awarded. Within a matter of weeks now, we hope to
have this one down and gone.
Mr. Carollo: If I may, Commissioner Kennedy, Commissioner Plummer, I went to
one of these structures myself, at 4621 N.W. 15th Court and witnessed
similarities to what we have seen here, and ... location that Commissioner
Kennedy went to, but I'd like to propose the following, that I would like to
request and recommend that the City Commission adopt an ordinance that would
establish a new trust account to be entitled," Unsafe and Blighted Structure
Demolition Trust Fund," and allocate a total of $500,000 in funding, and said
funds are to be used exclusively for the purpose of demolishing unsafe and
blighted structures City -Wide. Staff could establish such an ordinance.
Mr. Plummer: Well, of course, hey, I am in favor of what you are proposing,
Joe, but where is the money going to come from? I guess it is a good
52 October 23, 1986
question, where are we going to get the $500,0001 If we got the money, that
is fine, I think it is money well spent.
Mayor Suarez: How much does it costto demolish that one structure that we
just sav, and where does thRt money come from all of a sudden?
Mr. Fierce: This money ceme from Community Development. There had been
some...
Mayor Suarez: Hoy* much is it, Wpi tr-r, more or less?
Mrs. Dougherty: It could be a revolving fund, because if we have to post
liens...
Mr. Plummer: Now, do we get to put a lien on that property?
Mr. Pierce: Absolutely.
Mrs. Dougherty: The answer is yes.
Mr. Plummer: So in other words, that property can never be sold until the
lien is satisfied?
Mr. Pierce: Right.
Mr. Plummer: So we are going to get our money back.
Mrs. Dougherty: That is right.
Mr. Pierce: Yes.
Mrs. Dougherty: And if you permit us to foreclose, you can get it sooner.
Mr. Plummer: OK.
Mayor Suarez: I have no problem. Let me just see, we have a motion for an
ordinance to be prepared. I have no problem with the ordinance, other than
the figure in question because I really don't know what kind of monies we will
have. On a revolving basis, obviously, it is very easy to agree, if we can
get the money back. But, in any event, if you want to accept that
modification that we have an ordinance drafted, which only leaves the amount
in blank so that this Commission can consider how much money we can really
allocate to that fund right off the bat.
Mr. Carollo: Well, what I see is, this money it going to be recycling. I
will leave that figure on the ordinance.
Mrs. Kennedy: Can we do it that way?
Mr. Pierce: Ye$,that is the way in reality, it should work. One of the
problems has been that we have only used Community Development monies up
historically, for demolition. The money that is going to be used to demolish
this particular structure was money that had actually been paid back from some
of the liens that had been previously recorded, and had not been accounted
for.
Mayor Suarez: How much is in that pot?
Mr. Odio: $100....
Mr. Pierce: Oh, the pot is empty now.
Mayor Suarez: Now it is empty, after this.
Mr. Pierce: And by the time this structure and the whole stack of demolition
orders about like this go through, that pot will be wiped out. E�
Mr. Carollo: Well, if we are going to make any kind of impact, you know, we
are going to have to allocate $500,000, otherwise, we are not, you know, going
to be making any kind of real impact.
53 October 23, 1986
Mr. Pierce: We were trying to be a little bit realistic about the City's
financial ability. The actual dollar figure needed right now, if we demolish
every structure that wFs on our targeted list, would be $947,000.
Mr. Plummer: !..at me ask you a Question, Walter. A couple of years ago, maybe
it is not acceptable noG•, the Fire Department used to do what they called
controlled b?irnirg. It was also training as well as controlled burning. Is
it cheaper for the City to consider some of that again, or is it completely
out of the auest.icn%
Mr. Fierce: I don't know, but by the time we come back to the Commission with
something, we will. certainly have an answer to that question, because if we
can do it cheaper, that means there is more of them we can demolish that way.
Mr. Carollo: That is a good idea. The problem is, some of these structures,
they are close to other good structures, that...
Mr. Plummer: Yes, I understand, in some cases it wouldn't work.
Mr. Carollo: It would not work.
Mr. Plummer: How about if I loaned you two of my kids. ?cell, that is all
they need. They will demolish those structures in nothing flat!
Mr. Dawkins: Commissioner Carollo was not in here when we passed the
scattered site housing, but I see no reason why we could not take the
ordinance that was being proposed by Commissioner Carollo, and as we identify
these scattered sites that may have structures on them, then we could use the
money, as he said, and since we are going to build houses, Joe, of that
demolition cost ;nto the housing, and it comes back to the City.
Mr. Plummer: All right, so what you are doing is coming back to us with this
ordinance prepared at the next meeting.
Mr. Pierce: Yes, sir, but I would like to respond to what Vice -Mayor Dawkins
just mentioned, that earlier today, talking with Jerry Gereaux about that very
idea, that since the idea is maybe to establish a revolving fund, that we will
offer lots that we foreclose upon, we foreclose the liens, we would offer
those lots to the housing agency for the cost of the demolition effort, and
hopefully, that would give them sites that are acquired at a low cost, and
further their program. We agree with you fully, sir, thank you for your
support. Thank you, Commissioners.
Mayor Suarez: OK, we have a motion for the drafting of that ordinance to be
entitled as moved, and have the purpose in question, and it will be fully
considered, and at that point, I guess we will also have a discussion on
whether we have the money available. Certainly sounds like a good idea.
Moved and seconded. Any further discussion? Call the roll.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Carollo, who moved
its adoption:
MOTION NO. 86-847
A MOTION INSTRUCTING THE CITY ATTORNEY TO DRAFT AN
ORDINANCE ESTABLISHING A NEW TRUST ACCOUNT IN THE
AMOUNT OF $500,000, SAID FUND RESERVE TO BE UTILIZED
TO DEMOLISH UNSAFE BUILDINGS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor Miller J. Dawkins
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
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Mayor Suarez: That one structure will be demolished in any event, when we
move it around, because that's administratively...
Mrs. Kennedy: Yeah, we'll. start with that one.
Mr. Odio: That one is going down.
Mayor Suarez: Thank you.
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20. DISCUSSION CONCERNING BID AWARD FOR MEALS TO DAY CARE AND PRESCHOOL
PROGRAMS - DIRECT MANAGER TO AWARD TO SECOND LOWEST BIDDER.
Mayor Suarez: Item 6.2.
Mr. Jack Eads: Mr. Mayor, members of the Commission, we've passed out to
you...
Mr. Dawkins: Before you go on, Mr...
Mrs. Kennedy: Jack - excuse me.
Mr. Dawkins: Before you go on, let's just welcome the Board of Regents
member, Mr. Frank Scruggs. It's a pleasure having you here, sir, and...
Mr. Frank Scruggs: Thank you very much.
Mr. Dawkins: ...enjoy having you in the City of Miami.
Mrs. Kennedy: And before we start, I've been advised that we need just a
couple of minutes to move all of the equipment out, so...
Mr. Plummer: What do you want? You want a break?
Mayor Suarez: Let's take a five-minute break. Then we'll come back at
approximately four, let's say 4:50.
THEREUPON THE CITY COMMISSION WENT INTO RECESS AT 4:41
P.M. AND RECONVENED AT 4:55 P.M., WITH ALL MEMBERS OF
THE CITY COMMISSION FOUND TO BE PRESENT.
Mayor Suarez: Oh, I'm sorry - I guess from the City, we should hear first.
Jack?
Mr. Eads: Mr. Mayor, at the October...
Mayor Suarez: Mr. City Manager.
Mr. Odio: Yes?
Mr. Eads: At the October 9 City Commission meeting, we withdrew the
recommended award of bid to Greater Miami Catering for the Day Care Food
Service Program, to give the bidder an opportunity to present some rebuttal to
the City. He's presented that rebuttal. We've given it every consideration.
Our recommendation remains that Greater Miami Catering receive the bid, and it
be awarded at today's meeting.
Mayor Suarez: How was that processed? Is that our standard competitive
bidding process?
Mr. Eads: Yes, sir.
Mayor Suarez: We go, basically, for the low bidder, unless they're not
responsive.
Mr. Eads: Yes, sir.
Mr. Plummer: Ho, not responsive Responsible.
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UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: No, responsive.
Mr. Plummer: Responsive? Oh, I'm sorry, all right.
Mayor Suarez: I'll stick to my initial wording, but whichever. Do you want
to make any additional statements on that? Tell us the reasons why one is
being recommended and not another, for example, or whatever?
Mr. Odi.o: Yeah - tell him why.
Mr. Eads: Well, we've brought with you our documentation - brought with us
our documentation to present to you. Each of those yellow tabs on these ... out
of those file folders there, recommend a deviation from the contract
requirements. There were 87,284 meals delivered by this ... by Dietcraft from
the '85-'86 Summer Lunch Program, and of that, there were 12,000 meals that
were not proper for one reason or another, which amounted to 1.4-1/2 percent of
what was delivered.
Mayor Suarez: Fourteen and a half - you're getting a little far from the
mike. As determined by whom?
Mr. Eads: City staff.
Mayor Suarez: Who tasted the food, or...
Mr. Eads: No, sir. There are certain requirements, including temperature,...
Mayor Suarez: Oh. You have more objective criteria?
Mr. Eads: Yeah, objective criteria. Yes, sir.
Mr. Dawkins: Why is it that all of these violations occurred, and the staff
never terminated the contract?
Mr. Eads I think, Commissioner, if you take any one of these violations, the
majority of any one of these violations, individually, it would not be grounds
for terminating the contract. But if you take them as a group, and view them -
collectively, they are a sufficient deviation from the contract.
Mr. Dawkins: All right. If we took them as a group - if we took them as a -
group, and at the end of the year, why didn't we disqualify this group and
tell them, "You give lousy service; therefore we do not want you to bid, we
will not accept the bid, and if you win we will not award it to you." Why
didn't we tell them that?
Mr. Eads: I'm not sure that we have an option of doing that.
Mayor Suarez: Before they even bid, we have an option of telling them that we
don't want them to bid?
Mr. Alejandro Vilarello: The Code does provide for a debarment procedure in
the event that a contractor doesn't perform under the terms of its agreement.
That was not done.
Mr. Dawkins: All right, one more question. I have...
Mr. Odio: Commissioner, there is an answer here I think that you might want
to know. The program was in effect when we went out for bids, and then at the
end of the program they put —they investigated the services, and decided that
it was not what we wanted. Not responsive.
Mr. Dawkins: OK. I'm going to make one statement, and I'm going to be
finished with this. I have worked in the summer feeding program from 1971
until 1978, and in each of those years I fought to make the State of Florida
give minority vendors - Black and Cubans - contracts. And at each year, I was
told by Mrs. Watskey and others at the State of Florida, that the State of
Florida mandates that you give the bid to the lowest bidder. OK? And I have
gone through that, I've argued about it, I've fought it; and each time I lost.
Now, today you come to me with a document that we're going to change the rules
of the games now. Now that we got so many Blacks and Cubans involved, we now
change the game which says that you can go to the second bidder if you want
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to. Now, once you guys explain that to me, and how the State of Florida
arrived at changing the rules in the middle of the game, you got me. Other
than that, you lost me.
Mr. Vilarello: I can't explain why Mrs. Watskey did or did not do that in the
past, Commissioner.
Mayor Suarez: 7 wouldn't try.
Mr. Vilarello: However, at this point, the Code of Federal Regulations
provides for procedures for exclusion of the applicant agency or institution,
which is the City, and the State has now forwarded to us confirmation that
they reject - they're paying for these food services, and they're rejecting
the low bid or confirm...
Mr. Dawkins: All right, then let them go find somebody else. Don't put the
monkey on the City of Miami's back. Let the State of Florida go out and find
somebody to feed these youngsters. OK? That's all I'm saying to you.
Mr. Carollo: Excuse me.
Mr. Dawkins: Yeah, wait a minute, Joe. Don't put the monkey on the City of
Miami's back. This is the State of Florida's problem. So, the State of
Florida is the one who... it's got us fighting among ourselves with our
clientele, and what have you? Now, I'll ask you one question, or somebody in
the food business - what was the difference in the bid?
Mr. Vilarello: Six cents.
Mr. Dawkins: Six cents. Six cents per meal. Per meal. I mean,
realistically, in this economy, what is six cents going to buy?
Mrs. Kennedy: What is the exact composition of these two companies? - Not
only minority -owned, but women -owned.
Mr. Vilarello: Uh, the...
Mr. Dawkins: Millie is the only minority woman...
Mr. Vilarello: The Dietcraft Company is, I believe, a wholly owned minority;
and t h second low bidder is a wholly owned minority woman, held by a woman
who is Puerto Rican, so is Hispanic.
Mr. Cather: If I could interrupt just for one second. I have to go out
somewhere right now, and I'm going to be gone for about at least an hour and a
half or two. So, the minute I get done I'll try to get back as soon as I can.
Mayor Suarez: Is there any item that you want to be heard or not heard at
this point?
Mr. Carollo: No.
Mr. Plummer: Hopefully by the time you'll get back, we'll be finished.
Mr. Carollo: I don't think so.
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Mayor Suarez: We have expressed a desire to finish tonight before the World
Series, game, but ... It would be nice. Frank, state your name, address, if
you're being compensated for representing anyone, you have to register with
the City, which I presume you have done, if you are, in fact, compensated.
Mr. Scruggs: Thank you very much, Mr. Mayor. My name is Frank Scruggs. I'm
a partner with the law firm of Steel, Hector. & Davis here in Miami. Our
offices are at 4000 Southeast Financial Center.
Mayor Suarez: Been a while since we've heard from Steel, Hector and Davis. I —
knew it had to... the drought had to end. I'm sorry, go ahead, counselor.
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Mr. Scruggs: We have the privilege of representing Dietcraft, Inc., in this
matter. Dietcraft, Inc., was the low bidder on a contract letby the City of
Miami, respecting the delivery of food to day care centers. Dietcraft, Inc.,
has served the City of Miami for over a decade. It has delivered well in
excess of a million meals to kids here in this area. It is a wholly owned
minority company. I am happy to t.eIJ you that Dietcraft, Inc., has developed
a reputation over the rears which has prrmitt.ed it to get, business from the
City of. Miami, Fear after year. 1;nc sipn.ificantly, the pecple who formed
Dietcraft, Inc., came hFrr with little or nothing. They came and built the
reputation of their company, and nok• they're successful, and ve are here today
representing them. I want, to introduce to the members of the Commission and
to the Mayor, Rodolfo Fitaluga and his wife, Craciela Fit.aJupa, who are the
shareholders of this company. We're here, Mr. l;ayor, not on the aucstion of
whether their bid was responsive; it was clearly responsive, and it was
clearly the low bid. The issue is whether the company is responsible.
Translated from the lingo of the Code, the question is whether or not, they are
so irresponsible, whether they performed so poorly in the past, whether
they're so unreliable that they're not worthy of doing business with the City
of Miami.. That's the issue: are these people irresponsible, so that their
low bid ought to be rejected? The staff, especially as directed by the staff
of the Department of Education in Tallahassee, would say, "We don't care about
your low bid. We will sit and judge, as judge and jury, on the reputation of
these people," and impugn them as being irresponsible, based on the evidence
that they say they've developed. But I intend to show you, along with the
information that you've got from your staff, that. the City staff and the State
did not do a good job as judges; that it was unfair, the way these citizens
were treated. And the evidence that they had, even as indicated by their own
files, does not support the scurrilous and damaging allegations they made
against Dietcraft.
Mr. Plummer: May I interject, sir? You know, I don't mind sitting here
listening to you, but I just read the letter from the State of Florida. OK?
The letter from the State of Florida is clear. Sir, they will not pay us for
these meals unless we throw this company out and go to the next lowest bidder.
Now, sir, excuse me, give me the letter and let me read it into the record.
OK? Here, it's very... it's Department of Education, dated October the 14th,
and I'm taking out of context, but I'll read the second paragraph. "This will
also confirm our recommendation to reject the low bid, based on poor
performance by the vendor, and to approve the next low bid," and then they go
on to cite the statutes. They're the ones paying us! Now, if they're not
going to accept you, what are we hearing?
Mr. Scruggs: Mr. Commissioner, I want to respond two ways. First, the issue
is whether or not the State has the power to do what they —what that letter
seems to suggest.
Mr. Plummer: He who has the green rules.
Mr. Scruggs: The answer is that if the City awards this bid, for the State of
Florida to reject them and to undo the contract award, the State itself has to
adhere to the Florida Administrative Procedure Act, and to give these people
the right to a hearing before that can be done. The question is whether or
not some low-level employee in Tallahassee will be able to cause this great
Commission to run rampant...
Mr. Plummer: Sir, this is signed...
Mr. Scruggs: ...over the rights of citizens.
Mayor Suarez: I'm glad you refer to us that way. We understand that - if I
can solve this - we understand that as a recommendation - I think that's what
the wording indicated - I don't think it's a prohibition or a mandatory
requirement in any way. Unless I'm hearing wrong.
Mr. Scruggs: We agree, Mr. Mayor. Let's turn to the evidence that's been
developed.
Mr. Plummer: Just for the record, that is not a low-level employee. That is
the Director.
Mayor Suarez: Yeah - "This will also confirm our recommendation to reject the
bid." So, if they have that recommendation, they can certainly make it, and
we can follow it or not follow it.
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Mr. Plummer: Well, they go on to quote the Statutes that are involved,
federal statutes.
Mayor Cuarez: They do give a statutory support, which presumably gives them
the ability to make that recommendation.
Mr.. Scruggs: That's correct, Mr. P,ayor. Let's take a look at the points that
have been developed and presented as the rationale for you to sit in judge and
jury in a negative way on these people's reputation. First., it says that they
did not. comply...
Mayor Suarez: Well, not on their reputation - just on the service.
Mr. Scruggs: That's correct. Whether or not they are nonresponsible or
irresponsible, so as not to be worthy of this business. The first point
that's been made is that they had a contract with the City of Miami and did
not comply. I think the question that Commissioner Dawkins asked is a good
one: why wasn't the contract rescinded? Why wasn't payment. withheld? Why
weren't. there letters of protest.? All of this was two years ago. Those
things were not done, and here we are, two years later, to try to do what
could have been done then. Even more importantly, we think the evidence does not show that they violated the contract. First, as to temperature. They
said, "Weil, the temperatures were not in compliance with the contract." We
presented the documents to show that the temperatures were to be governed by a
standard of wholesomeness and by compliance with the Dade County Health Code.
They complied with the Health Code, and we have tendered, proffered the
testimony of the Director of Public Health, to the extent that the
temperatures that were less than 45 to 50 degrees were in compliance. The
City staff and the State have cited - I have one of their records that I just
picked up here - a file full of citations of food delivered at 30 degrees,
which was used as the basis for the conclusion that they violated the
contract. That's just wrong - it was not a violation. It was within the
terms of the Health Code.
Mayor Suarez: Let me ask you a question, just for clarification. When did
the contract expire or when does it expire, the existing contract?
Mr. Scruggs: OK. This contract that we're here on is a one-year contract.
And significantly, $80,000 to a company may not be all the money in the
world...
Mayor Suarez: When did it expire? I'm sorry, Frank - when did it expire?
Mr. Scruggs: October?
Mr. Eads: September.
Mr. Scruggs: October the 31st.
Mayor Suarez: With the fiscal year? I'm just trying to figure out how, if
they weren't checking all along about the meals, they could have somehow
confirmed or verified that fourteen percent of the meals were not proper, if
they were not doing it all along. I mean, I just...
Mr. Scruggs: Well, let's look at the facts. The facts, as indicated by the
records. There is a reference in the Agenda materials to some 3,299 meals
served during the Summer Lunch Program, and they say "Well, that's bad." What
you're not told is that Dietcraft, Inc., served some 600,000 meals during that
period of time; that these 3,000 meals represent less than about one half of
one percent, and that even those figures, we think, that cannot be
substantiated, based on the poor record -keeping. There are crossouts in the
records, there are whiteouts. These records don't have sufficient integrity
to be relied upon for something as important as this. The next point that
they raise is that, well, "we heard that there was some incident involving the
presence of foreign matter on a sandwich that you served, so that it shows
that your plant's not clean." Well, the Director of Public Health sent his
staff out, they inspected the facility, gave them a clean bill of health, and
it was established that the foreign matter was imbedded inside the sandwich,
and could not reasonably have been discovered. A sandwich produced by the
_ Southland Corporation, which provides all of the sandwiches for the Dade
County schools, and which serves 7-11 sandwiches - what about that indicates
tthat this company was nonresponsible?
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Mayor Suarez: Of course, everybody has liability for the ultimate product,
not just...
Mr. Scruggs: That's correct. The sandwich was pulled before it was consumed.
The question is whether or not that incident ought to be considered to support
a finding that the company is nonresponsible. We say the answer is no.
Mayor Sucre.: Well, if it happened a lot, definitely, regardless of whose
fault it was.
Mr. Scruggs: That's correct. It. happened once. It was remedied right away,
as soon as it. was brought to their attention. I think, Mr. Mayor, the point
is that. we have a determination by somebody in Tallahassee, that a year and a
half, two years. later, a contract was violated, and that. that renders a
company to be nonresponsible. We say that. somebody way tip in Tallahassee
might be able to render that kind of damning conclusion of a company's
reputation based on a breach of a contract which was not documented, which was
not taken care of at the time; but we hope that this Commission will not be
goaded into doing something to one of its citizens, inasmuch as they are here
because they are seeking relief from the kinds of governments that, do run
roughshod over citizens' rights. There is nothing in this record that
substantiates the conclusion that Mr. Pitaluga and his wife ran that company
in a way that was irresponsible. Once incident that they supported - they
said, "Well, a truck broke down and Mr. Pitaluga delivered the sandwiches in
his car." Well, which way does that cut? I£ the man gets out of his offices
goes to meet a disabled truck on the street, and delivers the sandwiches and
milk in time so that they are still within the temperature guidelines - that
doesn't show that the company is irresponsible. It shows that they care about
performing, just as they have for a decade. They helped to design the very
day care program lunch that's the subject of this, and we hope and ask at this
time that the staff recommendation be rejected, that you accept the low bid of
this company, because the evidence is clear that it is not irresponsible.
It's responsible and it served the citizens of this area well.
Mayor Suarez: That's very eloquent. I've heard allegations that you went to
Harvard Law School. Is that...
Mr. Scruggs: It's held against me every once in a while, Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Suarez: How come you didn't attend my speech yesterday to the Harvard
Club?
Mr. Scruggs: I was away from town.
Mr. Odio: Oh, you went to Harvard? Yeah?
Mr. Dawkins: So, you're going to vote against him because he didn't go to
your Harvard speech, huh?
Mr. Plummer: I'll vote against him because he did go to Harvard, don't worry.
Mr. Scruggs: That's what I'm afraid of.
(Laughter)
Mr. Plummer: You can sure tell a Harvard man, but not much. That's all
right.
Mayor Suarez: That's right. You said it. Do we hear from the other side? I
don't mean from the City, now, - we're going to hear from the City, I
presume - but do we hear from the other company? The one that's being
recommended in favor of?
Mr. Plummer: I really don't think that's in question. I think that's
immaterial.
Mayor Suarez: Well, they may have counsel, and they may want to deal with the
legal aspects of this, or the fairness of it, or whatever.
Mr. Plummer: Well, I still am coming back, and I guess I've got to have an
answer, because I think we're really arguing in vain. If, in fact, the State
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of Florida has control, and they have said that they will not accept this
vendor, then all this conversation... now, if what they're saying is that they
don't have that authority, then that's a different story. Then we got
something to argue about. Now, how do we go about making such a
determinFtion? _
Mrs. Kennedy: Who can answer that question?
Mr. Vilarello: Mr, Mayor, Commissioner Plummer, maybe I can clear that up for
you right now. The State is going under federal regulations that provide a
procedure for them to keep a comppny from providing the service. However,
we're doing it through the City Code, through the City Code's procedures, and
those are the procedures we followed in excluding Diet.craft as 8 bidder.
Mr. Plummer: Fly question is simple. Does the State of Florida have the
ability or the authority to reject, and not pay the City for this food7
Mr. Vilarello: They can choose not to fund the applicant institution, the
City of Miami.
Mr. Plummer.: Have they said, other than recommendation, have they said that
if we choose this vendor, they will not fund7
Mr. Vilarello: That is the most recent communication we have
Mayor Suarez: Can we get a clarification of that most recent...?
Mr. Plummer: OK, but this is not...
Mrs. Kennedy: There's no...you're not answering the question.
Mayor Suarez: What he's saying is, he doesn't know.
Mr. Plummer: It says we...
Mr. Vilarello: Have they said ... I'm saying that that...
Mayor Suarez: Whatever's in there.
Mr. Odio: No, because...
Mr. Vilarello: That's what it..
Mr. Odio: Because the answer is, no, they have not said they would not fund
us, at this time. That is, the latest communication we have did not indicate
that. I want to point out, Mr. Mayor, that the staff of the City of Miami has
no interest in who provides the service, as long as it's responsible. And we
have to go only on record -keeping that had been done by the staff of the
Department on occurrences time and time again.
Mayor Suarez: You don't eat the meals, so...
Mr. Odio: I don't... but I want to put on the record that we really don't care
who provides the services.
Mr. Plummer: Well, but look, you know, Mr. City Manager, some of the
accusations in there - OK? - I think go a little above and beyond. Such as a
substituted white rice for yellow rice. You know, I find that very difficult
to understand as a violation. But it's there.
Mr. Odio: Well, we are instructed to keep records.
Mr. Plummer: I understand.
Mr. Eads: Can I address that for a second, Commissioner? We went back, and
after we had some first discussions, went back and reevaluated our }
consideration. For instance, Mr. Scruggs made mention of the 40 to 45 degree
temperature and suggested we call Mr. Livingston. We did. He said, in fact,
40 to 45 was the recommended temperature. It could go below that, and that
would be fine. Therefore, we removed from our calculations a number of
discrepancies. However, he admonished us very seriously about the effect of
food above 45 degrees, and that was 3,229 meals.
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Mr. Plummer: Yeah, but, there are some... and I'm not going to go in...
Mr. Eads: No, sir, what I'm saying to you - the substitution of one fruit for
a...
Mr. Plummer: Yellow rice for white rice.
Mr. Ends: Yeah. We discounted that.
Mr. Plummer. OY.. That to me is ... you know, that's child's play, OK? I'm
sorry, but that's child's play. Now, the problem I've got is, there's some
very heavy accusations in there.
Mr. Ends: Yes, sir.
Mr. Plummer: 00 And that's where my area of concern is. Now, I hear Mr.
Scruggs mede the statement, "Well, it's not Dietcraft's fault because they
bought them from someone else." OK? Now, that's what I've got a problem,
accepting that as being, "Well, OK, I shun responsibility." I'm worried about
the kid that's eating the sandwich. And I don't think the kid eating the
sandwich cares whether it came from him, or Southland, or who - this sandwich
is unacceptable. And there are some statements in there that make them very
unacceptable.
Mr. Odio: Commissioner, the contract is with Dietcraft, Incorporated. They
are responsible for all foods delivered to us, and whoever they subcontract
with, that's their problem.
Mr. Plummer: Is responsible to them. I understand that. Look, I still say
to you that the real basis of whether we're even arguing or not, is if the
State is emphatic that they will not fund us if we use this firm, then we're -
what are we arguing about? Let's go get another one.
Mr. Odio: Yeah, but based on all these occurrences, we have no choice but to
recommend that we do not send the contract to them.
Mr. Plummer: OK, I've made my point on the record.
Mrs. Kennedy: What is this, a yearly contract?
Mr. Eads: Yes, ma'am, it's an annual contract.
Mayor Suarez: No one wants to propose a six month probation, do you?
Mr. Scruggs: Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Suarez: Low bidder? Yes, Frank?
Mr. Scruggs: Let me respond, just...
Mayor Suarez: I still say, by the way, if we're going to keep hearing from
one company, we ought to hear from the other company. So, if you want to make
any statement as to the fairness of this, feel free to do so. Go ahead.
Mr. Scruggs: Commissioners, I think this is the point: The answer is, no,
the State of Florida has not said that they will not pay the City of Miami if
you fund this contract. The answer is that, even though they may have the
theoretical power to withhold it, they cannot run roughshod over their rights.
They will have to stop and comply with certain procedures before, as a State
authority, brandishing this company as nonresponsible. They cannot do that,
and they would have you do that.
Mr. Odio: Mr. Attorney, you are right. Let me tell you this, we are not
trying to pass on our responsibility. Based on the City Code, based on
reports of evaluation from the staff, forgetting what the State said or not
said, we still have to recommend that we do not extend the contract. Now,
this is our responsibility, that we're not shunning that responsibility, I'm
very clear about it.
Mayor Suarez: OK, for the record, the City Attorney has recommended that we
don't hear from the second highest... second lowest bidder, because it might...
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Mr. Robert Clark: It's irrelevant.
Mayor Suarez: Yeah, it's sort of irrelevant at this point, and might pose
problems. I'm not sure that I agree with the City Attorney, but I'm not here
as a lawyer.
Mr. Dawkins: I'm sorry, I was out of the room. What's this about Dietcraft not being responsible for the sandwiches they serve because they purchased
them from someone else?
Mr. Scruggs: YrF.. let me respond to that. In every instance where there was
a discrepancy- or problem pointed out. to Dietcraft, they responded to it. They
provided a credit, they accepted responsibility for all of the food that is
served. The question is whether or not there is anything about their record
that renders them irresponsible, and I pointed to that incident to show that
nothing about. that. - when they accept responsibility. The question is, when
the incident was discovered, they pulled the item, And it was determined by
the Health Department that it was not attributed to anything about, the way
they ran their facilities. The City officials had once said, "that there was
foreign matter on the outside of the sandwich," and that that suggested that
their plant was not clean. We've disproven that., so they backed off to
another one. They said, "Well, you know, your..." I he-,,(, a folder that shows
that the staff has said, "that the temperatures were too low." The Health
Department says that's not correct - those temperatures are fine. Now, they
are on to another point. We're saying, is this a way to do business with
citizens of this City? It's not fai.r to do that.
Mr. Dawkins: Mr. Scruggs, your listing of temperatures - are they when the
truck left Dietcraft, or are the temperatures when it arrived at the site?
Mr. Scruggs: Those are the temperatures as they arrived at the site, when
somebody who works for the City stuck a thermometer in one carton of milk,
stuck a thermometer in the juice, and wrote down on an invoice and confirmed
the time of delivery. And we're saying that those delivery times were
acknowledged, 30 degrees was written on some of them. The City staff once
said, "Well, that's not acceptable." Now that the Health Department has said
that's acceptable, they say, "Oh, well that doesn't matter. There's some
other issue that we want to focus on."
Mrs. Kennedy: But yet, here it says...
Mayor Suarez: Let me just say something real quick. I am going to hear from
the second company, if you circumscribe your testimony or your argument to the
issue of the fairness in this particular case, and not try to get too much
into whether your company has a better service or not, because that really is
not relevant. But, I'm told by the City Attorney that it isn't all that clear
that we shouldn't hear from the second company. I'm just going to take
that...
Mr. Dawkins: Wait a minute, now. The City Attorney - hold it, now - the City
Attorney says we should not hear from the second... but you're going to hear
him?
Mayor Suarez: Well, no, no, no. One City Attorney said one thing and the
other City Attorney said something slightly different.
Mr. Dawkins: I want to know, what does THE City Attorney say?
Mayor Suarez: Well, now, say what you finally told me, Lucia?
Mr. Dawkins: THE City Attorney.
Mrs. Dougherty: THE City Attorney says that it would be appropriate to hear
from the second bidder.
Mrs. Dougherty: Ma'am, you say that you should? -
Mrs. Dougherty: Yes, it would be appropriate to hear from them.
Mr. Dawkins: OK, thank you, that's all.
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Mr. Bads: Mr. Mayor, on the issue of temperature,...
Mr. Dawkins: Thgt`s the one we're going by.
Mr. Fads: Again, if the temperature was under 40 degrees, we discounted that
from our corciderFtion. The only thing we were dealing with was temperatures
in excess of 65 6rgrFes,
Mrs. Kennedy, Vr-31, there's another thing here...
Mr. Fads: Actually, In excess of 50 degrees, we gave them an additional five
degree cushion.
Mrs. Kennedy: OK. Mr. Scruggs, it says that the lunches delivered at Douglas
Park were delivered by a brown 1979 or '80 Camaro, with no refrigerator. Is
this a common procedure?
Mr. Scruggs-: That is not. a common procedure, and the City's documents do not
support that allegation. We contest it, we say the records don't support it.
We say that itcannot be proven, and that wherever that happened - the
alle... there are allegations coming from where? The records don't support
that, rand Dietcraft denies it vehemently.
Mayor Suarez: Fortunately, or unfortunately, this is not a court of law. We
cannot make a. determination as to any of that; so, we're just going to have to
go on our own judgment. Six, do you want to go ahead and make a statement?
Tell us who you are, what company you represent.
Mr. John Olmo: by name is John Olmo. I'm representing Greater Miami
Caterers. Address is 2620 Northwest 27th Avenue. Just to hit this first
point about the sandwiches coming in...
Mayor Suarez: Do you work for the company? Are you one of the principals?
Mr. Olmo: No, I'm not an owner. I'm just a manager.
Mayor Suarez: OK. I don't know if he would have to register as a lobbyist...
Mr. Olmo: I did, just in case.
Mayor Suarez: Oh, fine. Go ahead.
Mr. Olmo: The point about the sandwiches coming in at 30 degrees - If the
sandwich is frozen, temperature for freezing is 32 or below. If the
sandwiches are frozen when they're delivered, a child can't eat a frozen
sandwich.
Mayor Suarez: That's for water that is not moving around, and certain
atmospheric conditions. Go ahead.
Mr. Olmo: Well, that's the problem that they find. You know, from a
caterer's point of view, if you deliver a frozen sandwich, you can't consume
it, especially for a young child. But essentially, the only points that I
need to make available here, is that we have no ill will toward Dietcraft.
We're just here as a straight business matter, and it's just dollars and cents
here, is what we're involving ourselves with. We approached this bid from a
simple fact of, its value only really warrants our time in participating and
approaching this thing. We don't come here with an attorney or with a
lobbyist to try to pressure the Commission to award us a contract. We just go
on the basis of our performance - which we are currently serving the day care
and preschool. The contract that we had ended September 30, 1986, and has
been extended currently through the end of this month, to allow for this
procedure to take place, for an actual award to be made. We did this out of
consideration. Certainly we make profits out .of doing the business for an
additional month, but, in essence, we've got to delay business decisions that
are generally made for us in August, rather than September; so, it's been an
inconvenience for us as well. We've got people that we've got to maintain on
staff, or displace because we no longer have the work. Just to confirm any
thoughts that have been placed in your minds, we're certainly a woman -owned
Hispanic business. Mrs. Butler here is the full stock ownership of the
company, so there is no dispute to the fact whether we are Hispanic and woman -
owned.
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Mrs. Kennedy: Could you state her name for the record, please?
Mr. Olmo: Jacqueline Butler.
Mayor Suarez: You know, I have a feeling, and if it were proper to do so, if
we threw out. the bids and rebid the entire thing, that we would get a
responsive, responsible bidder coming in at the lowest price that we now have,
at the lowestbidding price, and the taxpayers would be saved some money.
That's an interesting possibility. I really don't know what to do.
Mr. Olmo: I submitted my bid for this new contract period at the same price
at which I served the City for this whole past year. I haven't included any
type of increase. Two years ago...
Mayor Suarez: You've been serving the City for the past year? Your company?
Mr. Olmo: Yes. We are currently serving this contract., and have allowed the
City to extend with us for a one -month period, through the end of October, to
allow you this process to decide who you wish to choose. Throughcut. that time
period we had an excellent history. There's no real blemishes on our services
throughout the time period - on -time deliveries, no problems with the quality
of food, and, you know, this type of business, it engages in a lot of
different things; and if, by chance, something is inadequate, we're certainly
out there prior to the original delivery time to replace the item. You know,
there's always an instance where something can be improper, but we're out
there right away to replace it. We gear that into our staffing, and so forth.
Mayor Suarez: Like to propose somebody to test those sandwiches before they
arrive. Maybe the City Manager could do that each time.
(Laughter)
Mr. Olmo: The contract that Dietcraft was serving this past summer was ... the
menus are considerably different than what our day care, or ... the day care
services are predominantly hot meals, and that was a sandwich, a box lunch
type thing, so, sandwiches don't apply to us, really. Well, in any case,
let's see. I did want to bring note that the City is not the only
organization in Dade County who displaced Dietcraft for reasons of
nonperformance. I've got a letter here prepared by Herman Williams, of the
Family Christian Association. I provided all of your aides with a copy of
this letter.
Mr. Scruggs: Mr. Mayor, that letter...
Mayor Suarez: That probably is not a good idea, for you to present that, and
I am going to ask that you not do that, rather than excluding it from the
record. That could pose legal problems for us.
Mr. Vilarello: Mr. Mayor, nor was...
Mayor Suarez: No, then you guys are going to have more grounds for a lawsuit.
We don't need that.
Mr. Vilarello: Mr. Mayor, nor was it considered in the determination by the
City.
Mayor Suarez: Fine, fine. It was not considered up to now? See, that's why
we were afraid of letting you testify, because of that kind of problem.
Frank, you want to make a...
Mr. Odio: Mr. Mayor, let me say this, for the record, please.
Mayor Suarez: Yes, Mr. City Manager.
Mr. Odio: All we are interested in is their performance with the City of
Miami, period.
Mayor Suarez: When was the last time your company served the City of Miami?
Mr. Scruggs: The last time?
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(INAUDIBLE COMMENT OFF -MIKE)
Mayor Suarez: Eighty-four was the last year?
Mr. Scruggs: And they served the Summer Lunch Program, some 600,000 meals,
this past summer.
Mayor Suarez: And in the summer. That's when we allegedly had the problems.
Quick, final statement.? We've got to resolve the sandwich issue here, sooner
or later.
Mr. Scruggs: The issue is, how does the City want to do business with its
citizens? Po you want to let somebody paper a file and sit quiet during times
when they could redress a problem, and pop up two years later to deem a
company to be irresponsible, or do you want to deal with this company fairly? _
They've had a good track. record. They're not being fairly impugned. They
were the low bidder, and they ought to get the contract.
Mayor Suarez: Thank you, Frank.
Mr. Eads: Mr. Mayor, we've reduced our recommendations to writing and
submitted them to you previously, and the City Clerk has a copy for reference.
Mayor Suarez: Fine, and those are ordered into the record. Members of the
Commission - any discussion, any motions? What's your pleasure? Do you want
any further clarification of the State position, Commissioner Plummer, or...?
Mr. Plummer: You know, I think it's important, but we're probably faced with
this October 31st deadline. Because if the State won't accept it and won't
pay for it, we're not ... we're just arguing for naught. I also have to admit
on the record, Mr. Mayor, that some of the accusations here, which I deem to
be heavy, have me bothered - I got to be honest with you. I don't go with the
string of the substitution of yellow rice for white rice - I think that's
immaterial. I would be concerned with the frozen sandwich, whether or not
it ... I wasn't there. But the other area, that is pretty well known, is there.
It's self-evident. It's obvious. The proof was right there. So, that's
where I got a problem, so I...
Mayor Suarez: Will it die for lack of interest?
Mr. Plummer: Oh, no, no, no, no, I'll make a motion. You want a motion? I
make a motion we uphold the administration.
Mayor Suarez: And go with the second lowest bidder?
Mr. Plummer: I'll make that motion, sir.
Mayor Suarez: So moved. Now will it die for lack of interest?
Mr. Plummer: Everybody wants to go to heaven, but nobody wants to die.
Mrs. Kennedy: Especially if we have to see you first.
(Laughter)
Mr. Plummer: That's 'cause you know I got the only one-way tickets.
Mayor Suarez: Anyone want to make any alternative motions?
Mr. Plummer: Boy, the kids are going to get awful hungry.
Mr. Odio: Yes, sir.
Mayor Suarez: I'll second Commissioner Plummer's motion to accept the second
lowest bidder. For the reasons that have been stated into the record.
Mr. Dawkins: Any further discussion? Hearing none, call the roll. -
66 October 23, 1986
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved
its adoption:
MOTION NO. 86-848
A MOTION AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO
AWARD A CITY CONTRACT TO THE SECOND LOWEST BIDDER FOR
PROVIDING MF_.A.LS TO PARTICIPANTS IN THE CITY'S DAY CARE AND
PRESCHOOL PROGRAMS.
Upon being seconded by Mayor Suarez, the motion was passed and adopted
by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor Miller J. Dawkins
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
ON ROLL CALL:
Mayor Suarez: Yeah - without making any statements as to whether they were
true or not, certainly - Yes.
Mayor Suarez: Thank you for a very eloquent presentation.
21. CONSENT AGENDA.
Mayor Suarez: We're going on to the Consent Agenda, which is Item 7 through
16.1.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I'd like to pull Item 16.1, and I would also like to
pull, for discussion, Item 19.
Mr. Odio: Nineteen? Nineteen is not in the...
Mayor Suarez: I guess that's outside of the Consent Agenda. We'll get to...
Mr. Plummer: I'm sorry, sir. The only one, then, that I want pulled is the -
yeah, 16.1. Madame City Attorney, while we're waiting here a minute - you
supplied to our office a form, or the Clerk, one of the two of us - you
supplied us a form this week to fill out, on conflict of interest. It's a new
form? Am I to assume that form is only to be filed at such time as there is a
conflict?
Mrs. Dougherty: I didn't send it to you.
Ms. Hirai: Yes.
Mr. Plummer: Excuse me, would you clarify on the record that form we received
this week?
Ms. Hirai: It is a new form that has been sent to us, and whenever a
Commissioner feels that he has, or she has, a conflict of interest, they will
_ state so in the record, and instead of filling out the old form, this will be
the new form that will be filled out.
Mayor Suarez: So it's for the future? -
Mr. Plummer: So, the forms you sent us this week, we do not fill out until
such time as we feel that there is a reason to abstain from voting?
Ms. Hirai: Exactly.
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Mr. Plummer: OK, thank you.
Ms. Hirai: Exactly, and it substitutes the old form.
Mayor Suarez.: Glad for that clarification. OK, so far we've got Item 16.1
being the only one pulled from the Consent Agenda, and assuming no one else
has any other requests, let me announce that Items...
Mr. Plummer: I so move the Consent Agenda.
Mrs. Kennedv: Second
Mayor Suarez: You were going to ask that that one item be considered
individually, sir? Which is - that item?
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER (OFF MIKE): Item number 15.
Mayor Suarez: Fifteen. I'll pull it out myself. OK, with the exception of
Items 15 and 16.1, we will proceed to take a vote on Items 7 through 16.1, in
one motion. If there's anyone that wants to be heard for or against any of
the items constituted in that group, other. than 15 and 16.1, let that person
so announce or step forward. Let the record reflect that no one has asked to
be heard on the items mentioned, and therefore we will entertain a motion on
the Consent Agenda,...
Mr. Plummer: So moved.
Mayor Suarez: ...leaving out 15 and 16.1.
Mrs. Kennedy: Moved and seconded.
Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded. Any discussion? Call the roll.
THE FOLLOWING RESOLUTIONS WERE INTRODUCED BY COMMISSIONER PLUMMER,
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KENNEDY AND PASSED AND ADOPTED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor Miller J. Dawkins
Mayor. Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
21.1 APPROVE TRANSMITTAL TO SOUTH FLORIDA REGIONAL PLANNING COUNCIL FOR
APPLICATION FOR APPROVAL FOR DOWNTOWN MIAMI AS A DRI.
RESOLUTION NO. 86-849
A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE TRANSMITTAL TO THE SOUTH
FLORIDA REGIONAL PLANNING COUNCIL OF THE APPLICATION FOR
DEVELOPMENT APPROVAL (ADA) FOR DOWNTOWN MIAMI AS A
DEVELOPMENT OF REGIONAL IMPACT (DRI), IN SUBSTANTIALLY THE
FORM ATTACHED.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here
and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
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21.2 ALLOCATING $30,000 FROM SPECIAL PROGRAMS AND ACCOUNTS FUND FOR FEE
INCREASES FOR D.R.I. APPLICATION TO S0, FLA. REGIONAL.. PLANNING COUNCIL.
F.F_ SOI JTTION TTO, 86-850
A RESOL.LiTIO1? AI.L•OCATII*c? Sj0,000 FROM THE. FY'86-87 SPECIAL
PROGRAMS AND ACC0111,75 1`111) TO COVER THE COST OF FEE _
INCREASES FOR S1TTMISSiON OF THE DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT OF
REGIONAL IMrttCT (D.R.I.) AFPLICATION TO THE SOUTH FLORIDA
REGIONAL FLAN VIPG COil1JCIL.
(Here follows bode' of resolution, omitted here
and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
21.3 AUTHORIZE CITY MANAGER TO E14TER AGREEMENT WITH LOURDES SLAYZK FOR
PROFESSIONAL PLANNING SERVICES, DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND DRI,
$21,257.
RESOLUTION 140. 86-851
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO AN
AGREEMENT, SUBSTANTIALLY 114 THE FORM ATTACHED, WITH
LOURDES SLAYZK, FOR PROFESSIONAL PLANNING SERVICES, IN
CONNECTION WITH THE DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND DRI
PROJECT, AND THE CITYWIDE COMPREHENSIVE PLA14 WITH FUNDS IN
THE AMOUNT OF $21,257 TO BE EXPENDED FROM FY'86-187
SPECIAL PROGRAMS AND ACCOUNTS.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here
and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
21.4 AUTHORIZE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE AGREEMENT BETWEEN CITY OF MIAMI AND
METRO FOR SALE OF EXCESS FILL MATERIAL ON VIRGINIA KEY AT $2.00 PER
CUBIC YARD.
RESOLUTION NO. 86-852
A RLSOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE AN
AGREEMENT, IN SUBSTANTIALLY THE FORM ATTACHED HERETO,
BETWEEN THE CITY OF MIAMI AND METROPOLITAN DADE COUNTY,
FOR THE SALE OF APPROXIMATELY 35,000 CUBIC YARDS OF EXCESS
FILL MATERIAL FROM VIRGINIA KEY AT THE PRICE OF $2.00 PER
CUBIC YARD, LOOSE MEASURE.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here
and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
21.5 APPROVING MOST QUALIFIED FIRMS TO PROVIDE PLANNING AND DESIGN SERVICES
FOR COCONUT GROVE EXHIBITION CENTER RENOVATION AND NEGOTIATE WITH SAME.
RESOLUTION NO. 86-853
A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE MOST QUALIFIED FIRMS TO PROVIDE
PROFESSIONAL PLANNING AND DESIGN SERVICES FOR THE
RENOVATION AND EXPANSION OF THE COCONUT GROVE EXHIBITION
CENTER; AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO UNDERTAKE
NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE MOST QUALIFIED FIRMS, TO ARRIVE AT A
CONTRACT WHICH IS FAIR, COMPETITIVE AND REASONABLE, AND
DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO PRESENT THE NEGOTIATED
AGREEMENT TO THE CITY COMMISSION FOR ITS RATIFICATION AND
APPROVAL.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here
and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
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21.6 AUTHORIZE CITY MANAGER TO ACCEPT AMKTNITION DONATION FROM BANK SYSTEMS
AND EQUIPMENT CORP. FOR POLICE TRAINING.
RES01.,i'TI0!' 1�0, F6-F,54
A RESOLLTTIOrJ AtTTHORI7J}(= 7FiF CITY ►14NAGER TO ACCEPT THE
DONATION OF AT)PftW ITI0N, FROM FAA'K SYSTEMS AND EQUIPMENT
CORPORATION FOR ITST, FY THE MJAMI POLICE DEPARTMENT
TRAINING U1 IT/SWAT AT 1,10 COST TO THE CITY.
(Here follows body of resoluticn, omitted here
and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
21.1 APPROVE TWO YEAR EXTE14ST014 OFF AC-RFF►;FI,TT FETWEENT CITY AND BUS BENCHES CO.
RESOLUTION NO. 86-855
A RESOLUTION APPROVING A Two YEAR EXTENSION OF THE
AGREEMENT DATED NOVEMBER 2, 1983 BETWEEN THE CITY AND BUS
BENCHES COMPA14Y UPON THE SAME TERMS AND CONDITIONS SET
FORTH IN SUCH AGREEMENT WHICH PROVIDED FOR AN OPTION BY
SAID FIRM TO EXTEND THE TERM OF THE AGREEMENT FOR TWO
YEARS.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here
and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
21.8 AUTHORIZE SETTLEMENT IN CONDEMNATIONS PROCEEDINGS IN ACQUISITION OF LAND
PARCEL 44-E, AUTHORIZING CITY MANAGER TO PAY ADDITIONAL $355,655.
RESOLUTION NO. 86-856
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING SETTLEMENT IN CONDEMNATION
PROCEEDINGS FOR THE ACQUISITION OF LAND PARCEL 44-E
PENDING IN CIRCUIT COURT CASE NO. 86-14608, WHEREBY THE
CITY MANAGER IS AUTHORIZED TO PAY AN ADDITIONAL $355,655
AS THE PRICE OF SAID PROPERTY WHICH CONSISTS OF 37,800
SQUARE FEET LOCATED AT 80 NORTHWEST 8TH STREET, MIAMI,
FLORIDA, WITH SAID ADDITIONAL FUNDS TO BE PROVIDED FROM
THE MIAMI SPORTS AND EXHIBITION AUTHORITY CONVENTION
DEVELOPMENT TAX BOND PROCEEDS.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here
and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
21.9 AUTHORIZE CITY MANAGER AND CITY ATTORNEY IN TAKING LEGAL ACTION TO
REMOVE BETTE AND BERT BAYFRONT 66 MARINA, INC. FROM WATSON ISLAND.
RESOLUTION NO. 86-857
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER'S AND CITY
ATTORNEY'S FORBEARANCE IN TAKING LEGAL ACTION TO REMOVE
BETTE & BERT BAYFRONT 66 MARINA, INC., A/K/A MARTIN TRITT,
FROM CITY OWNED PROPERTY ON WATSON ISLAND, PROVIDED THAT
THE ARREARAGE PAYMENTS IN CONNECTION WITH CONCESSION
OPERATIONS ON WATSON ISLAND BE MAINTAINED ON A
CONTINUOUSLY CURRENT BASIS; FURTHER PROVIDED THAT THE
INTEREST OF THE CITY BE SECURED IN A FORM ACCEPTABLE TO
THE CITY MANAGER.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here
and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
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22. TERMINATE LEASE AGREEMENT WITH AMERICAN BARGE CLUB, INC., AT VIRGINIA
KEY.
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Mayor Suarez: You're approaching the mike ominously, and I'm wondering which
is your item.
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: Sixteen point one, sir.
Mayor Suarez: All right, we'll get to that. Item 15.
Mr.. Odio: Yes, sir. That's the American Barge Club lease. We're
recommending that we terminate their lease agreement. This property was given
to the American Barge Club two and a half years ago, I believe, and ever since
that time, nothing has been developed in that area, or plans have been
submitted to the City that are acceptable to the City. The improvement plans
submitted by the club were not in full compliance with Section 4 of the
improvements in the lease agreement.. They were almost three months late in
submitting their annual advance rent payment. it, was approximately a three-
.—sith period in which the property held by the club was not insured, as
required by the lease agreement. The club has failed to submit proof of
meeting membership requirements to increase its minority memberships by five
percent per year, to represent ethnic percentages of the City of Miami
population. Additionally, the club has failed to submit proof of having
conducted six public service functions for minorities at the closed facility,
as required per the lease. Six, seven months ago, I informed them in writing
that they had to expedite their plans, or that their lease would be cancelled.
They had plenty of notice, and because we did not get proper measures taken,
we are recommending that this lease be terminated.
Mayor Suarez: Provide the gentleman with a mike that he can reach.
Mr. Plummer: The hand-held mike is over here.
Mr. Dawkins: Hand-held on the side here, sir.
Mr. Plummer: Walter, why don't you take him...
Mayor Suarez: There's one over here, I think, too.
Mr. Plummer: Oh, there's one on each? I'm sorry.
Mayor Suarez: When you begin your presentation, give us your name, addressi
if you are compensated for your appearance here on behalf of someone, you're
supposed to register with the City as a lobbyist. If you haven't registered,
we can always table this matter until you get your registration filled.
Mr. Tom Brewer: Is this all right? My name is Tom Brewer. I'm the president
of the American Barge Club. My address is 11435 Southwest 114th Court, of
Miami, and I would like to say a few things. Yes, there are ... this has
been...
Mayor Suarez: Let me clarify something. As president of the company, does he
have to file?
Mr. Plummer: It's a club.
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: ...nonprofit club.
Mayor Suarez: Go ahead, proceed. It's a nonprofit?
Mr. Brewer: Yes, sir. It's a nonprofit organization, and I think Mr. Plummer
remembers me quite well. Just to clarify you, we've had the property... the
lease, since November of 1984. So, we have been active, pursuing improving
the property since 1984. Mr. Odio has referred to a letter that was dated, I
believe, December of '85. We had submitted a set of plans originally in April
of 185. Those plans were not accepted. He informed us, or his office at that
time informed us, what we had to do with those plans in order to make those
plans acceptable. We had submitted another set of plans for a temporary
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building, and which were turned down after the last six months. And Mr.
Odio's letter, I believe you referred to the fact that we had six months to
improve the property. We did not. The second setof plans also was turned
down. What I am besical ly telling you is that I have made two attempts, up
until July 31st of this year, to improve this property, and nothing has ever
been accepted that we have put. forwprd. Ve have made an honest effort in
trying to do so, Fnd now we are 2t, lease termination. -_
Mr. Flummer: How much financing do yeu have in the bank.?
Mr. Brewer: In the bank? Maybe $10,000 - I honestly do not know. It is not
a six -figure number - t.hat I can tell you. And being a nonprofit
organization, one of the things that I have to do is be sure that what I am
doing, before I ask anyone for a dollar bill, is be sure that dollar bill is
going to be. well used. Right now I have commitments, not collected, but
commitments of over $200,000.
Mayor Suarez: Supposing...
Mr. Brewer: But it is not in the bank.
Mayor Suarez: Supposing we went out —terminated your lease and went out for
bids again - would you participate in that process? Because it seems like
we've gotten nowhere for I don't know how many years now, with the project,
and...
Mr. Brewer: You have gotten nowheres, but it's not only my fault, sir,
it's... in the first...and it's Mr. Odio's predecessor - I can't recall his
name.
Mr. Odio: There were five of them. But, let me...
(Laughter)
Mr. Brewer: The immediate predecessor.
Mr. Odio: Let me tell you this, sir.
Mayor Suarez: What year, what month, what day, what hour?
Mr. Odio: The problem is, Mr. Mayor, that the agreement said clearly that the
City of Miami would have a right to inspect the plans, and they would have to
be acceptable in relationship to the land that they have acquired, which is
very valuable, right next to the waterfront, right next to Planet Ocean. You
cannot just put a shed out there, and it would not meet the plans. Therefore,
the plans that he submitted were not acceptable, according to the lease, to
the City of Miami.
Mr. Brewer: Would you be willing to inform me in writing as to why they were
not acceptable? I still don't know. The only thing I know is f rom Mr.
Armada, who told me only over the phone they wouldn't be acceptable.
Mayor Suarez: Let's hear that. Let's hear that. Rather than arguing - why
was it not acceptable, Al?
Mr. Albert J. Armada: Based on the first review of the plans that they
submitted, we did submit to them what I thought was a very thorough letter,
explaining to them all the problems that they had to address, and at that time
we...
Mayor Suarez: When was that? How soon after the submission of the initial...
Mr. Brewer: That was the December 185.
Mr. Armada: Well, that must have been ... must —must have been...
Mayor Suarez: Wait, wait, wait, wait. That question was not directed to you.
Mr. Armada: Must have been either March or April of this year. OK? When we
responded...
Mayor Suarez: Of '86. i
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Mr. Armada: Of 186.
Mayor Suarez: Since then what has happened?
Mr. Armeds: Well, since then...
Mayor SuarF7.: Hive they submitted any new plans?
Mr. Armada: They submitted a new plan, but the new plan did not address any
of the problems that ve had surfaced in our first review.
Mayor Suarez: Such as7
Mr. Armada: Such as parking, such as sewer and water, such as a couple of
other - encroachments and so forth and so on. I mean, the major problems were
not Addressed. And when we saw their second plan, it essentially, of course,
did not address the major problems, and it really changed directions
altogether. Instead of constructing a building out there, they wanted to put
a temporary shed, which didn't seem to be also, in the last analysis, you
know, acceptable in terms of the site and the kind of things •-e would like to
see out there.
Mrs. Kennedy: What is your percentage of minority membership?
Mr. Brewer: I honestly do not know.
Mr. Plummer: How many members ... How many members do you have, total?
Mr. Brewer: Most of them are minorities, as far as race goes.
Mr. Armada: What was the question? What was the question?
Mr. Brewer: As far as disabled people, I would say that most are Anglo.
Mrs. Kennedy: My question was the percentage of minority membership.
_ Mr. Armada: That is something that we have not received from them, as well.
We made a very clear affirmative action clause in the lease agreement which
require them to continually, on a yearly basis, submit to us documentations
and membership list which would have to be incremented at least by five
percent each year to reflect the ethnic and racial breakdown of the City of
Miami's population.
Mrs. Kennedy: And they have not submitted that to you?
Mr. Armada: They have submitted that. I don't have any...
Mrs. Kennedy: May I ask why?
Mr. Brewer: I have not submitted that, no, ma'am. As to why...
Mr. Dawkins: 'Cause they don't have any, that's why.
Mr. Brewer: Pardon?
Mr. Dawkins: 'Cause they don't have any, that's why.
Mrs. Kennedy: Yeah.
Mr. Dawkins: OK? They can't submit what they don't have.
Mr. Brewer: Mr. Dawkins, would you consider a crippled man in a wheelchair,
regardless of his color, a minority? I am in this club.
Mr. Dawkins: But ...OK, let me ask you a question. Would you consider me a
minority if I lived on...
(SOUND OF MIKE FEEDBACK)
Mayor Suarez: I think that's God trying to tell us something about this
discussion.
Mr. Dawkins: Yeah, the Lord is telling us me and you in the wrong pulpit.
Mayor Suarez: The Lord is saying this discussion is going nowhere.
Mr. DPvkins: No, I consider you a minority. I consider you as a handicapped.
I consider you Fs white, and I consider you es having all the damn things you
need, becFuFP you're handicapped and white. You have a hell of a lot more
going for you than I hFve, not being handicapped and P1ack.
Mayor Suarez: We can dispgree with that, but it doesn't seem like that will
lead to any particular resolution of this...
Mr. Brewer: That. is a...
Mr. Plummer: How many members do you have of this club, total?
Mr. Brewer: Can we vote now? I mean...
Mayor Suarez: No, that's not going to accomplish anything.
Mr. Dawkins: Yes, I move that we follow the recommendation of the
administration. Yes, I'll vote now.
Mayor Suarez: So moved.
Mr. Plummer: Well, I'll second the motion, but I still want to ask my
question.
Mayor Suarez: Commissioner, please.
Mr. Plummer: How many members do you have, total, of the club?
Mr. Brewer: Right now, active, we rowed over 30 people this past Sunday
morning. As far as active participants, we're currently rowing on Snapper
Creek Canal, my estimation is, about 110. Now, that's an estimation.
Mr. Plummer: But I mean, are these what you would call card-carrying members?
I mean, have they paid a membership fee?
Mr. Brewer: Oh, yes sir. Yes, sir. Yes, sir.
Mr. Plummer: OK.
Mr. Odio: Let me provide something here that...
Mr. Dawkins: How many of those 110 are Black?
Mr. Brewer: No, sir, but about 30 of them are crippled.
Mr. Dawkins: Seven are what, now?
Mr. Brewer: About 30 of them are crippled.
Mr. Dawkins: And you couldn't find no crippled Blacks? (PAUSE - NO RESPONSE)
I mean, since you're going to set the criteria, I'm going to help you, OK?
Mr. Brewer: No, sir, I did not set the criteria. You did.
Mr. Dawkins: OK, I mean, you see, you keep harping on this handicap, so if
you want me to go in the ghetto and get you some Blacks in wheelchairs, I'll
go get you some if you can't find them.
Mr. Brewer: If you vote to disband our lease, it won't matter.
Mr. Dawkins: Well, no, no, no - not "if." No, no, no, not "if" - "when."
You're using the wrong term of the verb. Because I am going to vote.
Mr. Odio: May I proffer something, sir? Fortunately, the City is now
starting a rowing program in the Parks and Recreation Department, and I would
be glad to offer to them that they, if they want to row, they can participate
in the rowing program, and you don't have to build anything, and we get the
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land back, and keep it there as good reserve that the City needs in that area,
until something else happens, and that you use our rowing programs, as an
alternative to what we're saying here today.
Mr. Brewer: We probably would be interested.
Mrs. Kennedy: You see, that's a very good alternative, because, you see, the
City is not in the buginegs of giving awAy valuable pieces of land, and you
have certainly not complied...
Mr. Brewer: Mrs. Kennedy, you put out. an RFF for that. The City prior to
year put out an RFF. That.'s one thing.
Mayor Suarez: Yeah, and the City now, advises us that that RFP has not been
met with for a long period of time; and you disagree, of course, and you're
entitled to disagree.
Mr. Brewer: Yes, Fir, obviously I do. One thing that ... you referred to the
valuable piece of property. Regardless of what happens to it with the vote of
today, there is still no access to that property, and that's...
Mayor Suarez: Yeah, how do you answer that, by the way, Al? I mean, if they
have no access to the property, how were they supposed to have done the
things...
Mr. Armada: Well, sir, that's why part of the lease said that they must
provide an access road, and they cannot do it.
Mayor Suarez: What did you need the actual access to the property for, in
this process up to now?
Mr. Dawkins: To get to the property.
Mr. Brewer: In the process of everything, to use it, period. To use it,
period, sir. If you're familiar with...
Mayor Suarez: Well, but you weren't using it just yet. You were at the point
of getting acceptable plans and specs.
Mr. Brewer: Exactly, sir.
Mayor Suarez: Why did you need to access the property for, in this period of
time up to now?
Mr. Brewer: In this period...? Nothing. But my point is, that at this point
there is no access to that property.
Mayor Suarez: Well, apparently that was going to be part of the whole deal,
that you would build an access road.
Mr. Armada: Well, they did have temporary access through the stadium, until
such time as a permanent access to the facility would be made available. And
that was one of the problems that we saw when we reviewed the plans, and we
asked them to answer that to us, but of course that was not the result.
Mr. Dawkins: Mr. Mayor, I've been through this for six years, I call the
order of the day.
Mayor Suarez: Let's close off debate. We've got a motion, do we have a
second?
Mr. Plummer: Yes.
Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded. Any further discussion from the
Commission? Let me just make a statement, that had you been - this particular
lease been evaluated under the same criteria that another one in the same
general area has been evaluated for the last, I don't know how many months,
since I've been on this Commission, you wouldn't have even gotten to first
base. I mean, it wouldn't even have been close. So, let's ... and my vote's
going to reflect that, and I'm going to vote with the motion. But, as
indicated by staff and by the Commissioners, we do have a program in which
you're welcome to participate. We've - not to give the wrong impression to
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anyone - the City has, for example, wheelchair basketball program, and we
really encourage your participation in the rowing program, and we'll do
everything in our power to make sure that your members are able to
participate. Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Dawkins, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 86-858
A RESOLUTION TERMINATING THE LEASE AGREEMENT DATED
NOVEMBER 6, 1984, AS AMENDED BY AN ADDENDUM THERETO DATED
FEBRUARY 12, 1985. WITH THE AMERICAN BARGE CLUB, INC., A
NONPROFIT CORFORATIOI?, FOR THE LEASE OF 30,000 SQUARE
FEET OF CITY -OWNED PROFERTY 014 VIRGINIA KEY BECAUSE OF
FAILURE OF SAID CLUB TO FERFOFMI A14D ABIDE BY ALL THE TERMS
AND COVENANTS OF SAID AGREEMENT.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here
and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor Miller J. Dawkins
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Mayor Suarez: And, of course, if we put the property out for bids again,
you're welcome to participate in that process.
23. NEGOTIATE WITH MIAMI MUNDIAL, INC. - USE ORANGE BOWL STADIUM FOR
INTERNATIONAL SOCCER EVENTS.
Mayor Suarez: Item 16.1.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I would ask that this matter - as you know, I have
been chosen to be a committee of Orange Bowl users, and I am looking at this,
and I'm concerned about a five-year tie-up, which, of course, we do have an
obligation to the University of Miami; but I note in here that, contrary to
what was asked when Bethune-Cookman College was here, the rent of the facility
for this outfit is $8,000, but we were told on Bethune-Cookman it was $17,000.
Mr. Walter Golby: Mr. Plummer, I can answer that. There was no rent being
charged to Bethune-Cookman at all. Those were strictly expenses.
Mayor Suarez: But you estimated that it would work out to 17, right?
Mr. Golby: No, that is total expenses.
Mr. Odio: Police...
Mr. Golby: No rent.
Mr. Plummer: Yeah, but that doesn't —now we get into the expenses of the
police over here on the other side. Mr. Mayor, I would appreciate this matter
be deferred until the next meeting, till November the 13th, and let me look
into this a little bit further.
Mayor Suarez: So moved and seconded.
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Kr. Plummer: I'm concerned about the five-year lock -in, that's wlsat I'M
con...
Mr. Odio: You might not have to worry about that at all, if they don't get
some Rnsrers, I think, soon.
Mayor Suarez: Well, tell us about that now. Are we going to be in a
situation...
Mr. Plummer: Well, OK, let me do it another way, OK? If I'm the only one
that's concerned.
Mr. Dawkins: No, you're not.
Mr. Plummer: Let...
Mr. Dawkins: You're not the only one concerned.
Mrs. Kennedy: No, you're not the only one.
Mr. Plummer: Oh, I'm not? Oh, OK, I was going to say, let me...
Mayor Suarez: But I'm also concerned about the countervailing situation here,
where they might simply just walk out on us if, we take too long to decide. Is
that what you're trying to tell us, Mr. City Manager?
Mr. Odio: Let him say.
Mr. Plummer: You see, we had... you know, I don't want to bring up the Winter
Games again, but I guess I got to. Mr. Mayor, we had what was considered to
be the best of the teams that were available at the time, and I got to tell
you something, we never grossed $70,000 a game for soccer. And I'm
concerned...
Mayor Suarez: I'd like to hear an answer on that.
Mr. Plummer: And I'm concerned about the fact that they're going to pay us
$8,000 minimum, fifteen percent of gross sales after $70,000 - we never reach
$70,0001 Then they're talking about a $2,500 flat fee, and they're talking
about the major events up to $185,000 the first year, and $250,000 to
$300,000 in the second and third year.
Mr. Odio: That will overcome the Dolphins' departure.
Mr. Plummer: Well, I understand that, and maybe it is a damn good deal for
the City, and maybe we do want to lock into it. But I'm concerned about all
of the City services; the City's expenses of $35,000; the practice field
maintenance of $22,000; $19,000 for...I think I'm backwards on that. I
just.. I'm concerned about a five-year lock -in. I really am, because I have
to base my concern and my fear on the fact that soccer has just not drawn that
well. Now, you know, you can do it any way you want, but soccer just didn't
sell in this community, and that's my concern. If I had some guarantee, I'd
rather go, and don't talk about these numbers - let them guarantee here what
they're talking about. A hundred and eighty-five thousand - give me a check
for that, and use the Orange Bowl fifteen times a year, I'm satisfied with
that. I'm satisfied. You want to talk about that, let's talk about it, or
$250,000 the second year, or $300,000 the third year, but I want my money up
front. Now, I'm just concerned that these numbers really don't mean anything,
because they're not going to draw. They're not going to draw what you're
putting in here in the numbers. And if they don't draw the numbers, all we're
going to wind up is $8,000 worth of rent, which doesn't really cover,
according to everything that I've heard. That's why I've asked that it be
deferred and go further into it.
Mayor Suarez: OK. I'm disposed to go with the motion. I just want to hear -
are we going to lose out on something here if we defer this item?
Mr. Clive Toye: May I speak, Mr. Mayor?
Mayor Suarez: Please. Give us your name.
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Mr. Toye: My name is Clive Toye, and I'm the chairman of the board of Miami
Mundial, Incorporated, with offices at 1406 Detran Center. With me is Noel
Lemon, the president of the company; and I must refer back to - I'm sorry,
Mr ... Commissioner Flummer is not with me at the moment. I think it's
pointless if I speak until he is finished.
Mayor Suarez.: It's all right. The rest ... I'm interested in what you're going _4
to say. Co rhead.
Mr. Toye: Well, I...
Mayor Suarez: He wants to take some additional time to hear it, but I want to
know why we shouldn't.
Mr. Toye: We were first intrigued by the possibilities of the Orange Bowl and
soccer, in a very brief exposure to the Orange Bowl and the Miami Winter
Games. My partner, Mr. Lemon, and 1 did not. hear of the Miami Winter Games
until four weeks before the first games.
Mr. Plummer: Excuse me. For the record, I am not blaming the Winter Games on
you.
Mr. Toye: Plo, no. Sir, I realize you're not. I want to try and explain to
you the difference between that situation and the situation which we want to
bring to the City of Miami.
Mr. Plummer: All right, sir.
Mr. Toye: It's therefore very important for me to say again...
Mayor Suarez: So far, you haven't told me anything related to the question
that is holding up these proceedings, which is, why should we not simply wait
until the next month until Commissioner Plummer's had more of a chance, and
anyone else...
Mr. Toye: We have spent ... sir, we have spent the last four months putting
together an organization so that we can make sure that the Miami Cup and the
other events which we plan are properly promoted and properly presented, and
not left to the last minute, as the soccer tournament for the Miami Cup this
past February was. We have formed a company. We have Pale as the chairman of
the Miami Cup. He will be here. He will speak for the Miami Cup, and for
Miami, from the day we get your permission for the next five years - that is
his period as chairman of the Miami Cup. He will be here in the City of...
Mayor Suarez: Any chance to make that more visible, that you would have him
present at a Commission meeting, when this is considered? That would
certainly help.
Mr. Toye: Sir, if we had known when we could have had a Commission meeting -
it was ... you know, it is not the easiest thing in the world to get the busiest
athlete in the world to come...
Mayor Suarez: Well, but it...
Mr. Toye: ... to come at a few days notice.
Mayor Suarez: ...it gives us an idea that he really is involved. It's like,
you know, Julio Iglesias being involved with the N.B.A. team. We see him
around at the...
Mr. Toye: We have documents, contracts, with Pele, that he is the chairman of
the Miami Cup. He will be here in Miami. He has press quotes ready to go
whenever we have the ability to go. We have the United States Soccer
Federation, agreed - they are the organizers of four million players in this
country, 75,000 of whom are in the State of Florida, 50,000 of whom are in
with the immediate area of this place, who have agreed, subject to your --
approval, to use the City of Miami and the Orange Bowl, and other training
facilities as the training site for United States Olympic teams, World Cup
_ teams, youth teams, womenIs teams; so there's a constant action of
participants and events, spectator events, in the City of Miami. We have
contracted with three major teams already for participation in the Miami Cup
next March. We have an association with the Kiwanis of Little Havana, where
we would know via sanctioned events...
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Mayor Suarez: How would you be hurt by our taking up this item the first
meeting in November, which is...
Mr. Toye: Sir, sir., we want to sell tickets, we have sponsors waiting,...
Mr. Gdio: Let me ... let me...
Mr. Plummer: OK, wait ... wait a minute. Hold on.
Mr. Toye: ... we have press conferences waiting, we have such s sh6fthg6 6t
time, sir.
Mr. Plummer: Hold on.
Mayor Suarez: Wait:, wait, wait.
Mr. Plummer: Let me proffer a deal to you.
Mr. Toye: Yeah, yeah.
Mr. Plummer: OK? How about, to get you off the horns of dilemma, a one-year
contract with a performance bond of $185,000?
Mr.. Odio: Extendable for five years.
Mr. Plummer: And then, if that works out, we'll extend it for another five.
How's that?
Mr. Toye: How can I guarantee you sums that I can't guarantee to myself, air?
Mr. Odio: No, what he's talking about is...
Mr. Dawkins: How can you guarantee the five years, then?
Mayor Suarez: Well, we're just beginning the negotiations now, I mean, you...
Mr. Odio: If we give you a contract for ten games, we need to know that we
will get our rent; and if you put up a performance bond of $80,000....
Mr. Plummer: No, no...
Mrs. Dougherty: You said a hundred and eighty-five.
Mr. Odio: that means that the City will get the rent.
Mrs. Dougherty: He said a hundred and eighty-five.
Mayor Suarez: Which figure is it, now?
Mr. Odio: Well, I mean, whatever the rent.
Mr. Toye: I am not guaranteeing in the first year of operation, when we don't
have an agreement, that I can put ten major events into the Orange Bowl. I am
saying that we have major events to put in there, and I'm supposed to be
leaving for Europe on Tuesday to sign Maradonna to come, which would give you _
two more major events, but I can't sign contracts for major events until I
know they have the stadium. Sir, if I may say this - if you would give us the
right to go ahead, forget the five years, until we've had chance to sit down
with Mr. Golby, and Cesar, and yourselves, at another meeting, to thrash that
out. The important thing to us...
Mr. Odio: Give him one year.
Mr. Toye: ...we will not be in business for five years...
Mr. Odio: See what happens.
Mr. Toye: ...if we're not paying you significant money,...
Mr. Odio: We got nothing to lose.
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Mr. Toye: ...because if we can't pay you significant money, we can't do it
ourselves.
Mr. Plummer: Hey, I have no problem with giving you the go-ahead, as long as
you fully understand we incur no liability, if we can't agree on terms.
Mr. Tope: Sir, let me...
Mayor Suarez: Does that make...
Mrs. Kennedy: And as Commissioner Plummer says, that's...
Mayor Suarez: Wait, wait, wait, wait. No, no, you wait, you wait. Does that
make sense to you, what. we're doing, what he's proposing? Because we don't
want you later suing us if it turns out that we can't reach a final agreement
with you.
Mr. Toye: Sir, we have...
Mayor Suarez: We're giving you a green light - it's a yellow light, it's not
a green light.
Mr. Toye: Sorry, I was trying to answer you, but...
Mayor Suarez: But I'm afraid that you're...
Mr. Toye: Mrs. Kennedy had her hand up.
Mayor Suarez: ...going to go off on a tangent and we're never going to get an
answer to that question. I don't want a lawsuit after this.
Mr. Toye: We have no intentions of doing two things. One, we have no
intentions of suing the City of Miami. Secondly, we have no intentions of
asking the City of Miami for a penny.
(ELECTRICITY BLINKED AT 5:58 P.M.)
(Laughter)
Mayor Suarez: There's God again.
Mr. Toye: We are doing this with our money.
Mrs. Kennedy: See, we get these warning signs every now and then.
Mr. Toye: Sorry about that. Sorry - sorry.
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: I'm afraid we couldn't hear you.
Mrs. Kennedy: We get these warnings every now and then.
Mr. Toye: That was probably a shock.
that has ever done that.
Mr. Plummer: Yes.
We're probably the first group here
Mayor Suarez: Now, the Commissioner is proposing something that we do a lot,
and that we have to make sure that you understand what we're doing, that it's
on the record - which is that we give the green light to the City Manager to
negotiate with you on the basis of the terms that he has proposed, but we're
not giving you, at this particular point, the total green light, and it
doesn't give you any vested rights if the negotiations fall through. For one
year.
Mr. Toye: Fine. I mean, I hope I understand what you're saying - that we are
going to have a fair agreement to play the Miami Cup in March, and that - you
have to excuse me, Mr. Mayor, that I'm somewhat astonished at this turn of
events, when, as I say, we're not asking you for anything except the right to
have the chance to start a business, to share our well-being, as we make
—' profits, with the City of Miami. We don't want a penny from you, sirl
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Mayor Suarez: Well, we hear from a lot of people that want to do that with
our facilities, and we have to be careful, that's all.
Mr. Toye: Put we don't want a penny from you, sirl
Mr. Plummer: Yeah, but let me bring tap one other key point, OK7 I would hope
that the pdminiptration would take into consideration that the Orange Bowl
itself not be uppd far practice, that they use some other facility for
practice, and only plpy your grmes. Now, the reason I say that is...
Mr. Golby: It's cover-Fd under the agreement.
Mr. Plummer: Tt 10
Mr. Golby And Mr. Odio: Yes.
Mr. Plummer: Well, the way I saw it here was the...
Mr. Odio: No, it's covered. They got to... it's in the parking lot at Curtis
Field.
Mr. Plummer: OK, wherever it is, other than on that P.A.T. turf.
negotiate that one to them.
Mr. Toye: That would be normal, sensible use, that's all.
Mr. Plummer: Yeah, OK. Mr. Mayor, I will move to send this matter to the
administration for final negotiations, and give them a one-year option, at
this particular point, incurring no liability by the City.
Mrs. Kennedy: Second.
Mayor Suarez: So moved.
Mrs. Kennedy: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Seconded.
Mr. Plummer: And I would like to be directly involved in the negotiations.
Mayor Suarez: OK. I would like to be directly involved in the first
exhibition that you have. I once made an offer, which I later regretted, to
box someone,...
Mr. Dawkins: Say "box"?
Mayor Suarez: and got knocked around. In this case, I can vision Pele's way
out there, and I, as goalie, or maybe Dawkins as goalie - he occupies more
space...
Mr. Toye: Well, if that's part of the negotiations, we'll certainly take it
up with you, air.
Mr. Dawkins: No, he fights, he "wrassels," he plays basketball, and now he's
going to soccer.
Mayor Suarez: No, I don't "wrassel" at all; I don't even wrestle, but...
(Laughter)
Mr. Dawkins: No, he wrassels, not wrestles.
Mayor Suarez: OK. Any further sensible, or not sensible, discussion from the
Commission? Hearing none, call the roll.
October 23. 1086
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 86-859
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE AN
AGREEMENT WITH MIAMI Mt7NDIAL, INC. FOR THE USE OF THE
ORANGE BOWL STADIUM FOR THE PURPOSE OF STAGING MAJOR
INTERNATIONAL SOCCER EVENTS, OFFICIAL• COMPETITIONS OF THE
UNITED STATES SOCCER FEDERATION, FOP, COMMUNITY YOUTH
SOCCER PROGRAMS, AND AS THE, PRINCIPAL TRAINING; SITE AND
HOME OF THE U.S. NATIONAL SOCCER LEAGUE EVE14TS AND
PROGRAMS, FOR A Ml]NIVUl", FFRIOD OF ONE ( 1 ) YEAR; WITH THE
OPTION TO EXTEND ThE: TERM OF THE CONTRACT BEI14G SUBJECT TO
THE SUCCESSFUL, COMPLETION OF CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS BY THE
CITY MANAGER WITH 140 LIABILITY TO THE CITY IN THE EVENT
THAT NEGOTIATIONS FAIL.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here
and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Kennedy, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor Miller J. Dawkins
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
24. ADOPT "S.W. 27TH AVENUE - A GATEWAY TO COCONUT GROVE: A PLANNING STUDY
OF DEVELOPMENT AND TRAFFIC IMPACTS."
Mayor Suarez: Item... we're going back to PZ, see if we can go through them,
and I think the first one is the Comprehensive Neighborhood Planning Miami,
and so on, Plan - which it seems like each time we don't quite get to the end
of this.
Mr. Guillermo Olmedillo: We would request that you hear Item 5 prior to Item
4, because Item 5 is the study, and Item 4 is the plan amendment itself, and
it's the second reading for the plan amendment. So I would suggest that
we... that you go ahead and do Item 5 before...
Mayor Suarez: I thought Item 5 was dependent on a traffic study, to be
performed in-house.
Mr. Olmedillo: Yes.
Mayor Suarez: And all that's been done?
Mr. Olmedillo: Yes, sir.
Mayor Suarez: And I'm supposed to have read it before today?
Mr. Olmedillo: Yes, sir. It's in your packet.
Mayor Suarez: Why didn't you call me last night to tell me that, Sergio?
Want to embarrass me?
Mr. Olmedillo: The PZ-5 is a request for an approval in principle of the 27th
Avenue study, and the plan...
Mayor Suarez: What does Tigertail Association feel about the study? Ah,
there they are. Good.
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Mr. Olmedillo: The Planning Department has held fifteen...
Mr. Plummer: What item are we on?
Mayor Suarez: Pi,-5, Commissioner.
Mr. Pierce end Mr. Odio: PZ-5.
Mr. Olmedillo: rive.
Mr. Plummer: What happened to PZ-4?
Mayor Suarez: They want to handle - the City wants to handle five, because
it's part of the bigger...
Mr. Dawkins: Wait a minute. Hold up, now.
Mr. Olmedillo: Your is the comprehensive plan amendment, and five is the
study itself. So five must precede four. As you know, the Planning
Department has conducted fifteen meetings - hearings and meetings - on this
issue. In July, you instructed us to go to the neighbors and have a meeting,
which we held two of them, and we arrived at a set of conclusions. These were
as follows: The improvement on 27th Avenue, that a serious effort must be
made for those improvements. The pedestrian character - that those
improvements must include a pedestrian atmosphere in order to connect the
Metro station to the Dinner Key center, and the village center. The traffic
restrictions - the land use, that it should be a unified land use. The
intensity of use - the edge conditions that should be treated carefully with a
special district. The cross-section of 27th Avenue, which is something which
is brought time and time again to be studied, and take full advantage of the
opportunities offered by the programmed widening of the street. At the end of
that meeting, there were three areas of difference between one group and the
other group, and the three areas of difference were...
Mayor Suarez: Are any of those resolved now?
Mr. Olmedillo: Yes, sir. The implementation of the...
Mayor Suarez: OK. Which ones are not resolved, if you could just tell me
those.
Mr. Olmedillo: There were three residents of the Coconut Avenue that
disagreed on any changes, proposed or otherwise. They just didn't want any
changes. And there was a proposal made by one of the attendants, that the —
payment to acquire the full cross-section of 27th Avenue be made by the City
of Miami. That, we did not agree on, because we didn't have the power or the
latitude to agree on that. The recommendations - the specific recommendations
that we had for it, which are in your packet, basically shows a special
district up and down 27th Avenue, from about Tigertail all the way to Dixie
Highway, and an intensity of use to the west side of 27th Avenue, to a
townhouse development. That's basically what we're proposing. The maximum
intensity we propose on 27th Avenue - an F.A.R. of 1.0. And the traffic
intrusions were to be studied in the comprehensive study, which is to be
signed with the consultant within the next two weeks. The traffic study in
itself - I shall introduce Clark Turner, from our department, who was our
person in-house who worked with the consultant for the traffic study.
Mr. Clark Turner: Mr. Mayor, my name is Clark Turner, of the Planning
Department. The study that is in your packet, entitled "Traffic Impact of
Proposed Zoning Alternatives - Southwest 27th Avenue in Coconut Grove," is the
result of considerable calculation that estimated the existing 1986 traffic
volumes, directionality, and the mix of local generated traffic and background
traffic on 27th Avenue, calculate additions to the existing traffic, based on
trip generation rates, that are based, in turn, on three alternatives for the
zoning and build -out of that area. The three alternatives are: if the area
were to be built out under the existing zoning regulations, that would be one
zoning alternative. The second would be that if the area were to be built out
according to the proposed rezoning, and with the development emphasizing a
residential and commercial mix, building out to the max that they could on
those, or, alternatively, building out to the max on office/commercial mix.
As it turned out, those two alternatives were essentially the same in terms of
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total traffic generation. The results of this, the significant conclusions
that can be drawn from the study, are, first of all - right now, the capacity
of 27th Avenue is, in peak hour, is 90.3 percent used. That is to say, peak
hour traffic volumes now occupy 90.3 percent of the existing roadway space.
The existing roedwFv space right now is essentially a three -lane section two
travel lanes with turn lanF:P, .The proposed future, ar the projected future
volumes are based on the impiovFd five--);:nF PPctSon that would be there, it's
now est.imatFd, for approximately 1992. Now, the wav tI- proiec.tirns work out
are these: if the ..oning along 27th Avenue is „ncranped, and the yropert.ies
are built. out to pract.ical maximums under the cy.istine ,,oning rules, under now
zoning rules, peak hour traffic volumes will averagF F.bcut 356 vehicles per
lane, or about. 59 percent. of the capacity of 27th Avenue, as imprevrd. If the
proposed rezoning is approved, and the build -out maximizes a
residential/commercial mix, the peak hour volumes are going to go up to about
394 vehicles per lane, or about 05.7 percent of capacity. If the proposed
rezoning is approved and built out maximizes the off ice/commercial mix, the
peak hour volumes will be one vehicle per hour per lane more, which would be
about 65.8 percent of capacity. So, in essence, the comparison is that if the
existing zoning were continued, with no change, build -out would result in
using about 59 percent. of thri capacity of 27th Avenue during the peak hour.
Mayor Suarez: Of losing the capacity?
Mr. Turner: Of using about 59 percent of its capacity.
Mayor Suarez: Well, wait a minute, let me...
Mr. Turner: Of an improved 27th Avenue.
Mayor Suarez: Let me ask you a question.
Mr. Turner: Yeah.
Mayor Suarez: Every time we hear about this 27th Avenue study, we're given as
a reason for the study the traffic problem on 27th Avenue. Now, the proposed
changes increase the traffic problem on 27th Avenue, is what you're saying?
Mr. Plummer: By six percent.
Mayor Suarez: Right, by a small percent, but they do increase it, right?
Mr. Turner: Correct.
Mayor Suarez: So, I'm back to wondering why this study was ever undertaken.
Mr. Turner: Well, the difference between what we're observing now, right now,
90 percent of the capacity of 27th Avenue, as it exists now, is in use during
the peak hour. The reason the figures drop in these projections is because,
approximately 1992, 27th Avenue is programmed to be improved from its existing
three -lane section to a five -lane section.
Mayor Suarez: Oh yeah, that will be the justification in 1992 to destroy 27th
Avenue, quote -unquote to improve it, and widen it, and make it a thoroughfare,
which is, we have too much traffic on it, which, of course, we did by the
change in zoning!
Mr. Turner: Well, without any change in zoning, the capacity of 27th Avenue
during peak hour will be exceeded if there is no improvement.
Mayor Suarez: When?
Mr. Turner: We don't have dates on when these will be.
Mayor Suarez: So we figure we'll speed up that process a little bit and make
it sooner. Right? That sounds the way you're...
Mr. Turner: No, Mr. Mayor, the difference is, without improvement of 27th
Avenue, the capacity will be exceeded in the near future.
Mayor Suarez: Maybe, maybe not. Maybe people will decide at some point that
they don't want to keep using 27th Avenue, I don't know. But we're adding to
the problem, it seems to me, by changing the zoning; not subtracting from it.
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I take 27th Avenue all the time. It's the way that I take to go to my lap
firm from City Hall. Never found any major problem on it.
Mr. Turner: There's one other conclusion to the study that I should mention,
and that is that the reduction in per -lane volumes, and the creation of excess
capacity on the improved 27th Avenue, will reduce the pressures that now
foster traffic intrusion in the adjoining residential. neighborhoods,
irrespective of the 7,cning alternative that is adopted.
Mayor Suarez: OK, that's a different argument. That's a different argument.
Mr. Plummer: By the came percentage?
Mr. Turner: And if. ... the point being that, as traffic volumes increase,
without any increase in capacity, the pressures build for traffic intrusion in
the neighborhoods. If the pressure for additional traffic is relieved by
improvement, then there's a corresponding reduction in the pressure for
traffic intrusion.
Mr. Plummer: But the question then has to be, the intrusion in the
neighborhood - is that by the same percentage as what it is on the main
thoroughfare? Because, if I understand what you're saying, you're saying that
the traffic insignificant if it were to be changed as recommended by the
department. Six percent.
Mr. Turner: Insubstantial, yeah.
Mr. Plummer: It's still not to capacity, like Dixie Highway, I think I'm
told, is 212 percent of capacity. OK?
Mr. Turner: Just about right, yeah.
Mr. Plummer: Now, are you saying that the intrusion into the neighborhood
would be based upon the same criteria, of an increase of approximately six
percent, as it is on the main thoroughfare? It would be four percent, ten
percent?
Mr. Turner: No, the —right now, you could say that the relationship between
27th Avenue usage and neighborhood intrusion is that 27th Avenue, right now,
runs at 90 percent.
Mr. Plummer: Right.
Mr. Turner: And there is X number of neighborhood intrusion.
Mr. Plummer: OK.
Mr. Turner: If the traffic volume on 27th Avenue is reduced to 65 percent of
its capacity, there would be a corresponding decrease in whatever X is.
Mr. Plummer: OK, all right. So it's same percentage either way.
Mr. Olmedillo: If I may add, Mr. Mayor, the basic reason for the proposals
are that the area has been changing for the last ten years, which is the time,
approximately, that we had...
Mayor Suarez: Sure, because we changed the zoning on a lot of the property
for the last ten years.
Mr. Olmedillo: And in an effort to recognize not only that, we had to
recognize the presence of the Metro station - the Metrorail station - and the
activities that have been undertaken in the village center, such as festivals
and the commercial activity itself, which has been attracting a lot of traffic
into that area.
Mayor Suarez: OK. We hear from the opponents, the Tigertail Association,
1'—
whomever?
i
Mr. Plummer: Let me ask, for the record. Did the department meet with all
concerned parties?
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Mr. Olmedillo: We sent ... As I said before, I stated before, we have held six
hearing and nine meetings. Every time, we've sent over 900 notices. During
the last three meetings we've had decreasing attendance, and they've gone from
about 40 people to about ten people, at the last meeting.
Mr. Fltammar: tfv as_yestion is, Ffter this latest traffic survey, which Mr.
Turner just spoke to. has therF been a meeting of all concerned parties to
discuss this plan,
Mr. Olmedillo: V.P invited the same people that attended the meeting prior to
that one. Tigertail. Associati.on....
Mr. Plummer: Was there a meeting?
Mr. Odio: Yes.
Mr. Olmedillo: Yes, yes.
Mr. Plummer: Thank you.
Mayor Suarez: OK, let's hear from the residents for or against the study.
Conclusions of the study.
Mr. Jack R. Rice, Jr.: I represent Dr. James Robertson, who owns a
substantial emount of property on 27th Avenue on west side, and he owns...
Mr. Plummer: Hell, he owns Coconut Grove, what do you mean?
Mr. Rice: lie owns a lot of it, yeah. We have some problems.
Mayor Suarez: Your name and address, and if you're...
Mr. Rice: My name is Jack R. Rice, Jr. My address is 2424 Northwest let
Street in Miami.
Mayor Suarez: Are you being compensated, Jack, and if so, have you filed a
lobbyist's form?
Mr. Rice: I haven't filed any form, but I hope I'm being compensated.
Mayor Suarez: Then I hope you...
Mr. Rice: Haven't been paid yet. Shall I call him up?
Mayor Suarez: Then I hope you file the form, and let someone also make a
presentation while you file the form.
Mr. Plummer: Buffy, you got to out and register. You got to go out and... all _
you got to do is sign a paper out there, that you're a paid lobbyist.
Mr. Rice: All right, I'll be delighted.
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: That means he's got to pay a fee.
Mr. Plummer: Get doctor to sign it also. That guarantees your fee.
Mr. Steven Cooke -Yarborough: Good evening. I'm Steven Cooke -Yarborough, 3555
Crystal Court, in the north Grove. I'm a vice president of Tigertail
Association, and I'm also chairman of the Zoning Committee of the Miami Civic
League. I'm also a "nitpicker."
Mayor Suarez: What happened to Thelma?
Mr. Cooke -Yarborough: She's working, I think. But a member of the Planning
Department described me as a "nitpicker" in today's paper, and I would just
like that gentleman and the Commission to understand that in my training and
practice as a civil engineer, a full and accurate analysis of all sides of an
argument should be looked at...
Mayor Suarez: That's not the worst thing you can be called around here, let
me tell you.
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Mr. Cooke -Yarborough: Right, OK, but I'm just pointing out...
Mayor Suarez: I'd leave it at that - that's not bad.
Mr. Cooke -Yarborough: Right, OK. Right, OK.
Mr. Plummer: 4'eli, heli, that's not half as bad as that idiot that wrote a
letter to the editor of the newspaper, so don't worry about it.
Mr. Cooke -Yarborough: That`s right, yeah, don't. worry about it. OK. But
what I want to bring up - we've been through this thing many times, so I just
want to come tip to what. the conclusions as the Tigertail sees it. We have
concerns. One: we would like to see 27th Avenue cleaned up. It's untidy.
But this is partly due to the Gity's r..wn problem of taking property
before ... and developing bits of sidewalk before they develop the - street. We
do not necessarily believe that it has to become a great 'Viq boulevard - I
think that needs study. We do want to see whatever that's done with it, that
keeps its arboreal atmosphere, and doesn't become a rather formal street.
Secondly, we feel that the changing of the Iand use from
residential/commercial would adversely change the character of the north and
central Grove, in which we, the residents, live. Our third major concern was
that of traffic infiltration, present and future. Now, at the last meeting
that this was referred to - July 22nd, I think it was - a traffic study was
requested. This traffic study has been presented to you. There are studies
and studies - I'm a "nitpicker." Several points: The actual computations,
for the uninitiated, are quite hard to follow, but from it I get the
impression that, first of al.1, the 1986 figures that are given here are
extrapolated from one -hour counts in the morning and the afternoon. OK. The
figures do not seem to include the natural. increase of traffic that's passing
through the area. In other words, it goes up so much every year. That's not
been added to the traffic that they've added. The least increase of traffic
from the proposed developments - those are the figures they've dealt with -
obviously comes from containing the zoning the way it now is, and that's 8.7
percent average. If you go to the full development, the maximum development,
the department has been proposing, in the south section - that's from
Tigertail to Bird - the traffic would increase over what's there now 145
percent. That figure wasn't given to you. It's in there, in your package.
Their mathematics, which I don't question, show a reduction in capacity
resulting from more lanes, and it's only valid if the traffic can move. If
we've got lights at both ends that don't change, don't give any more green
time, to get more traffic out, you're not going to move that traffic any more.
All you're going to do is make a wider traffic jam, and shorter than now
occurs. Unless this traffic is moved out faster, it'll continue to cut
through the neighborhoods. That's why it cuts through the neighborhoods now.
They get tired of waiting for the light. If you ... all of us, if you can dodge
a light, you take another route. Now, we asked that a plan be developed to
prevent this happening, now and in the future. We have not had this plan.
There was no mention, except in the statement, that if you've got ... let's see,
"if you reduce pressures on the traffic intrusion in adjoining residential
neighborhoods, irrespective of the zoning alternative adopted, will be less if
the capacity of 27th is increased." Yes, that's all right, as I say, if it
can flow. But if you've got a pipe and you block both ends of it, the water's
going to come out in the middle, whether you've got a lot of water coming out
or a little water coming out. And this is what we're worried about, and so
far, this has not been addressed except for the negative statement that it's
not goii.g to happen. Now, the next thing we're concerned about is zoning.
This, after all, is a study to change the comprehensive plan - not the
individual zoning of every lot, because that has to be done after the
comprehensive plan has been adopted. Now, in February 185, June 185, and
August 185, the Planning Department recommended against rezoning on 27th
Avenue, on three separate lots. Their recommendations were overruled by the
then Commission. Tigertail objected to the rezoning and supported the
Planning Department's position. However, in September '85, the Planning
Department took a 180-de...
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Yarborough. Mr. Yarborough, isn't it important that you
state the reason why they recommended denial? I think it's very important, -
sir.
Mr. Cooke -Yarborough: They recommended...
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Mr. Plummer: As I recall, their recommendation on those three items was based
upon the fact that no rezoning should take place until the comprehensive study
was done. Their denial did not indicate that the zoning was bad, as you are
indicating. In fact., they recommended "don't do any rezoning until you do it
all" th,-t.was their recommendation.
Mr. 4'eII
Mr. Flurnm,�r: And this Commission overrode that, yes sir, on three occasions,
saying that we feit it was in compatibility with what was going to be
recommended. So, to make a statement that this Commission overrode them three
times, based on their denial - what is their denial? It was to wait until the
study was completed. And I think that's very important. to put in the record,
sir.
Mr. Cooke -Yarborough: Very good, sir. But I might also point out that
conversations had by me, with members of the Planning Department at that time,
said thattheir initial studies did not indicate that zoning would be a good
idea. And that was with tars. Swanson.
Mr. Plummer: Yes, sir, they stated that on the record here: it was not a
good idea to do it piecemeal; that they wanted to do it in its entirety. And
that was on the record, sir, the public record.
Mr. Cooke -Yarborough: trio, I'm saying that they said...
Mr. Plummer: Sir, I'm not privileged to conversations that you had with
individual staff members.
Mr. Cooke -Yarborough: OK, right. OK. Then...
Mayor Suarez: Can you try to summarize, Mr. Yarborough, so we can...
Mr. Cooke -Yarborough: Yes. In summary,...
Mayor Suarez: I'm afraid your nitpicking here might go on for a while, and
we'll never get out of here.
Mr. Cooke -Yarborough: Well, I wouldn't have got into nitpicking if my train
had flowed on.
Mayor Suarez: We have to un-train you.
Mr. Cooke -Yarborough: The new plan that the Planning Department came up with
was presented and the Civic Club, the Coconut Grove Civic Club, objected to a
part of it, as a result of which the proposed rezoning was withdrawn from Mary
Street to Center Street. Tigertail objected to some of the rezoning on 27th
itself. We continued to object. At the May 22nd meeting, the Commission
directed that at least two workshops be held, presumably to reach a
satisfactory compromise. July the 22nd we notified the Commission of the
compromise that Tigertail was willing to accept. By courtesy of the Planning
Department ... I have an overlay that shows that.
Mayor Suarez: We know most of the history on this.
Mr. Cooke -Yarborough: OK, this is still our position, because... and I would
just run through why... what our position is. Basically, you can see, we have
virtually no argument north of Bird Road. On the RO-2.15, the Planning
Department wants to increase the density. If they have to, we'll go with it.
Our main change is that, the residents along the south side of Coconut Avenue
do not want the change, and I think they're here and will support that, so we
would suggest not making the change along the south side of Coconut Avenue.
SPI-2 is an existing commercial area that's already approved. We would
suggest that you extend SPI-2, that one lot, on its north side, because if
_ it's left as an RO, you've got a single little lot which you really can't do
anything with, and it would be contiguous to SPI-•2. however, for the rest of
the area, Tigertail...3rd Avenue to Tigertail, or really Lincoln and Day, we
request that the RG-25 be retained. The Planning Department itself says that
in the whole area there, there are only 22 properties - 22 percent of the
properties are likely to be redeveloped. That means 78 percent are not likely
to be developed. And yet- we're talking about changing the zoning, and that's
the whole area, and there's even less in the southern section. That means
we're talking about changing the whole area for the minority of the
landholders. We have 27...27 condominium owners in the southern section. We
have 12 landowners, other than condominium. Most of the condominium owners -
I think there are some of them here tonight, will tell you they don't want the
changes. They want to keep their condominiums, because that's what they've
got their money ir.!z-ested in, and they lire there. Vhat we bare suggested here
is expanding the Pr-25. The reason for that is, with the widening of 27t.h
Avenue, the lots which 11red to be 15o to l/,0 feet wide will be even shorter in
depth. They're narrow. Jt's verb' cifficult to put a feasible building, or a
decent -looking building, on top of a smell Jot. ATow, this has been shown, and
the Mayor asked the department to make a study of a development of a potential
lot - or that's what they did for the Mayor.
Mayor Suarez: We've got you clocked at 21 minutes. You're just going to have
to finish up, summarize where were you when we needed you?
UNIDENTir m SrEAYER. Illy car...
Mayor Suarez: He's nitpicking - he told us that. He warned us, and he went
ahead and did it.
Mr. Cooke -Yar.bor.ough: Mr. Mayor, I'm not nitpicking. I'm giving you the
reasons why Tigertail. is suggesting these changes in the department plan.
Mayor Suarez: Well, can you just do it a little quicker, please. I mean,
really, this red light's going to fall off of here.
(Laughter)
Mr. Cooke -Yarborough: OK. Um...
Mayor Suarez: You know, we've heard most of these arguments before, and I
think...
Mr. Cooke -Yarborough: Well, I'm just summing them up. OK, righto.
Mayor Suarez: ...the Commission's going to have to just take a vote sooner or
later on the 27th Avenue study before it comes back to us.
Mr. Cooke -Yarborough: Well, one thing we'd like you to do is not take a vote
on the change; or if you take it, don't make the change until the master plan
has gone around one more time. The reason for that being that under the
present comprehensive plan, there is no provision for RO. There's provision
for CR, which is commercial/residential. Once this plan has been up to
Tallahassee and back again, RO will be in. Now, what's being proposed here,
in our scheme and in the department's scheme, is RO, not CR; and therefore, if
you pass it and that gets put on the map as CR, when you want RO, the
landowner's going to want the Commercial section. We therefore ask you to
accept our proposal for the changes.
Mayor Suarez: Thank you. I sent back a memo to the Planning Department -
actually to the City Manager - on the Planning Department's answer on my
quantitative comparison between the two kinds of zoning, and I just want to
read it to you and read it into the record as...I think it's dated today.
Ms. Hirai: Um-hmm.
Mayor Suarez: It is dated today. It says: "Thank you for the quantitative
analysis you enclosed. It proves two things. Number one - there's hardly any
difference between the two zoning classifications in terms of the density
permitted." You tried to convince me otherwise. "Of course, the use changes,
which is why many residents are opposed to it. Two - the existing system of
classifications is so complex, it is almost unintelligible, although I must
compliment the Planning Director for the comparative analysis, without which
it would be totally incomprehensible." At least, with those kind of
comparative analyses, we have an idea of, you know, how much density we're
talking about, and they're very useful, those models. Still, the entire thing
boggles the imagination, how complex it is. You want to try to deal with it,
Jack?
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Mr. Jack R. Rice, Jr.: I'll try. By the way, we've been to a lot of these
meetings, and we haven't accomplished anything, but. we've been there. I want
to get to 27th Avenue, and I've told you this before, and I'll repeat it, that
the street is just. too Fide. 1.That 7'm going to do is get me a Ferrari and
just put it. in high gear anal shoot down this new hundred -foot hiphkay, because
it's not needed in the Coconut. Grove. It's just poing to be Proth- r place to
speed down the street to pet to nowhere. They've pot a 22-foot center strip
in there, that you ... that's pupposed to be for turns. pew. they- spy you can't
go into the residentipl area on each side of 27th Avenue. Put if you've got a
22-foot. median strip, I assume they're going to ha-,'e turns, and if it is, it's
going to be turning into these other streets, so you're going to turn traffic
off of 27th Avenue into areas that can't handle it. now. Not even wide enough.
If you send all this traffic down to Tigertail in the morning, in the morning
coming out: it won't make any difference; but in the afternoon going in, it's
already full. You can't. put another car on Tigertail. You can't put another
car down McFarland. If you send it down to Bayshor.e Drive, you can't get into
McFarland. And if they turn north, and nobody's turning north in the
afternoon - they're all turning south or southwest - there's just no place for
the cars to go. I'm all for improving 27th Avenue and so is my client. But a
hundred -foot roadway, like they've got proposed, which has been on the books
for a number of years, and I. have a letter from the Engineering Department
that I previously put in the file, is just too much roadway. I think we need
some beautification there, but we don't need a hundred -foot road to nowhere.
It's only going to be a short distance. And why do you need a 22-foot turning
radius, or turning lane, in there, I don't know. And what you're doing is,
you're going to so-called improve the zoning along 27th Avenue, and then
you're taking away a substantial amount of the parking and the uses that the
people have in the front of the building, that they'll no longer be able to
entertain. I think we ought to do something like we did on Southwest 8th
Street - beautify the place, but don't make it a hundred -foot -wide street.
It's just totally unnecessary.
Mr. Plummer: Jack, you are well aware that the City doesn't control that.
Twenty-seventh Avenue is a County road. You know that.
Mayor Suarez: We're not deciding that today either.
Mr. Rice: I've been through that, in my years, with all the cities, but I'll
tell you, you can stop them if you want to...
Mr. Plummer: Jack...
Mr. Rice: ...and the plan that's before the County at this time, or the
State - you have to file it with the County and their Comprehensive Gas Tax
Roadway Money Plan - is the one that was given by the City. This wasn't the
County's plan. This was the City's plan we sent. You can change it, just
like you submitted it. You know, the same thing occurred with 67th Avenue and
57th Avenue. They haven't built it yet. Why? The people don't want it.
Mr. Plummer: Jack...
Mr. Rice: They want them to change it.
Mr. Plummer: I fought on Bird Road like a tiger when they took the 18 feet of
my front yard. _
Mr. Rice: Well, then, you know how it is.
Mr. Plummer: And I lost.
Mr. Rice: Well, I know... —
Mr. Plummer: I lost!
Mr. Rice: ...but that's the County, see.
Mr. Plummer: Because, you know why? No, it was the State.
Mr. Rice: Well, this...
Mr. Plummer: And they said, "Fine, Mr. Plummer, we think that's great," and
they went ahead and built the damn road. Now, I think your argument makes
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some sense. Do we reed a hundred -foot road? But that argument is not here.
That argument's going tc be with the County, who maintains that...and that's
something else I went to talk about, 17th Avenue - my car's about to fall
apart because cf it. Put, Jack, that argument is not here.
Mr. Rice: I'm going tr do it everywhere.
Mr. Plummer: Vell. Votr'xe going to do it at the County, because they're the
ones who pre Bring to cnntr^l "yes" or "no."
Mr. Rice: vrij, I went you to Fgree....
Mr. Flummo r: And I went to. tell you, I agree with you, a hundred -foot road is
absolutely ridiculous. pow, I disagree with Cooke -Yarborough, because in his
presentation, if you listen to what he says, he's right, but he's wrong. The
County controls how long those traffic lights are green, and how long they're
red, OK? And if it stays As it is today, then Mr. Yarborough is right. But,
hopefully, they're going to change that, pipe that he speaks about, and open up
more flow of traffic, and there is going to be a lesser degree of confusion.
Now, I'm. saying to you, yes, I agree with you - I don't think an 80-foot or a
hundred -foot road, with a 22-foot median, is necessary, OK? I'd rather see
more grass than asphalt. But, Jack, the argument on that is not here, it's in
the County.
Mr. Rice: Well, then, disapprove their plan today.
Mr. Plummer: Disapprove who's plan?
Mr. Rice: The City's plan on...
Mr. Plummer: That's not the City's plan.
Mr. Rice: ...widening 27th Avenue.
Mr. Plummer: It's not the plan.
Mr. Odio: It's not submitted today.
Mayor Suarez: OK, I gather...
Mr. Odio: It's not submitted today.
Mayor Suarez: I gather that there's some people who want to speak in favor of
the plan...
Mr. Odio: There's nothing we can do!
Mayor Suarez: ...of the study? Can we arrive at one representative of the
group, or two, or something?
Mr. Rice: One thing I might say about the plan on rezoning, on 27th Avenue
and on Aviation. You got that overlay district that restricts the height. If
you're going to make it more of a commercial use, you ought to increase the
height to 50 feet to make it practical, so that you can develop that property.
You can't develop it at the 40 feet level.
Mr. Plummer: Well, forty feet is four floors.
Mr. Rice: That's right. You need five floors.
Mr. Plummer: And you can get one underground. That's 50.
Mr. Rice: I mean up, not down.
Mr. Plummer: You're still going ... you're going to try to get the ten under.
Mr. Rice: We're going in the wrong way. You've been going
Mayor Suarez: Are you in favor or against the conclusions of the study?
fd 91 October 23, 1986
Dr. James G. Robertson: I'm ... Mr. Ries is my attorney. I'm Dr. iamb
Robertson.
Mayor Suarez: Oh, OK, Doctor.
Dr. Robertson: I'd like to continue his train of thought for a moment,...
Mayor Suarez: If you must.
Dr. Robert.Fon:....with your indulgence, please, sir. I own three pieces of
land just south of Shipping, on the west side of 27th Avenue, a little over
300 feet frontage. And All of these are two-story high, rental apartments,
and widening this thing to 300 feet is going to virtually take off the front
of these buildings, practically.
Mr. Plwnner: Wait: a minute, Doctor - widen what to 300 feet?
Dr. Robertson: The street, the 2,200... 22-foot street you now have...
Mr. Plummer: A hundred foot, Doc.
Dr. Robertson:... To a hundred feet, is virtually going to take off the front
of the buildings.
Mr. Plummer: No, but you said 300 feet.
Dr. Robertson: I mean, it's just totally unpractical.
Mr. Walter Pierce: No, no, wait.
Dr. Robertson: I mean, it's virtually destroying these buildings as far as
their present usage.
Mr. Pierce: If, if, if...
Dr. Robertson: I'd like to...I don't object to somebody else doing this, but
I don't like to pay for somebody else to... taxes, when I can't use it as that.
These buildings are too good to take down, and they're needed as residential
rental units, which they are. And I don't mind somebody...
Mr. Pierce: For the record...
Dr. Robertson: ...any height you want to go, or whatever, I would like to
please consider what you'd feel like if you lived in one of these apartments,
and suddenly a road moved up and took all of your parking away from you, so
that you couldn't use your building any more, and you couldn't park. It's
going to make it ... virtually create a slum area in that area. You don't need
a 22-foot median landscape thing. Why don't you narrow your road down
somewhat, make a compromise, and allow us some room to do landscaping on the
land that we have, and keep our parking. Thank you.
Mr. Plummer: I agree.
Mr. Pierce: Just for the record, I believe Dr. Robertson's buildings already
observe the 100-foot zone right-of-way width, and the road would not be
increased from a 22-foot width. It is... presently that right-of-way is what -
70 feet?
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: Seventy.
Mr. Pierce: Seventy, in there now. So you're talking an additional, if it
went to a hundred -foot width, an additional fifteen feet on each side.
Mr. Plummer: Yeah, but Walter, a hundred -foot right-of-way, even with a 22-
foot median, leaves you roughly 80 feet. Are they proposing an eight -lane
road?
Mr. Pierce: No, no, Mr. Plummer.
Mr. Plummer: Well, what are you proposing?
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Mr. Pierce: If you will recall, that the Commission, in prior years, had
wanted the road built wider, with landscaped areas in the roadway, and with a
wide pedestrian walkways anal bike paths, etc., in that area. The County has
long been on record FAying that, based on the current right-of-way, if they
had to go in And guild today, it'd be a 70-foot road.
Mr. Plummer: Sc it would then be, what. - a three -lane with a median?
Mr. Plummer: No, it. would be five lanes. Two traffic lanes and a turning
lane in the center.
Mr. Plummer: 0K, but that's the median. That's what I call the median.
Mr. Pierce. But it would have a median, yes.
Mr. Plummer: OK.
Mayor Suarez: Superhighway.
Mr. Guillermo Olmedillo: Like 27th Avenue is on the north side. That is what
we don't want. We don't want 27th Avenue north of Dixie - we want something
that leads into pedestrian traffic and it's attractive to the pedestrian
traffic.
Mayor Suarez: So you change the zoning so we have more traffic, OK. On 27th
Avenue. Somehow, the logic escapes me. Let's go ahead and hear from all the
presenters.
Mr. Alan Dale Mobley: Alan Dale Mobley, 3300 Rice Street. I'm going to be
real brief, Mr. Mayor, and Commissioners. I'm here to urge you to accept and
adopt the plan of your Planning Department, and I'd also like to compliment
the entire staff of the Planning Department, Public Works, and the Legal
Department. A lot of thought, a lot of studies, and certainly, we all know, a
lot of meetings have gone into this. You have the opportunity of supporting a
study derived by professionals on the City staff, that will lead to an
improvement on 27th Avenue. And if you would take a minute, Mr. Mayor, and
read some of Mr. Turner's conclusions that were presented at our last meeting,
at which Mr. Cooke -Yarborough and others were at, you will realize that one of
the conclusions was, that the change in zoning will not substantially
contribute to the traffic load on 27th Avenue. I'll let Tony Marina address
that issue in a minute. Anyway, that's all I want to say. I think that this
is a chance to support the Planning Department, in a very...a study that has
taken a long time, they've done considerable work on. And this is the
opportunity to give Coconut Grove a true gateway. And I would like to know,
Mr. Mayor - maybe you would like the traffic to go down 17th Avenue and 22nd
Avenue, and more traffic on Tigertail, as opposed to using 27th Avenue, which
has evolved as a natural arterial gateway into the Grove. Thank you.
(Applause)
Mr. Plummer: Let me ask the City Attorney. Madame City Attorney, can I
legally attach, if this thing were to pass, that that road is not to exceed
width of 70 feet? Can I attach that stipulation?
Mrs. Dougherty: You can attach that as a stipulation to your plan, but again,
we don't necessarily have control over that, if someone's...
Mayor Suarez: We can certainly pass a resolution to the effect that, you
know, D.O.T. be advised not to try to...
Mr. Plummer: Right. But it's not D.O.T., I don't think, is it?
Mr. Olmedillo: No, it's Dade County Department of Public Works.
Mayor Suarez: Dade County. Even closer to our hearts, here.
(Laughter)
Mr. Plummer: Yeah. Where we never win.
Mayor Suarez: Tony. Name, address, and so on.
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Mr. Anthony G. Marina: Good evening. I'm Anthony...
Mayor Suarez: If you represent anyone, if you're compensated, you're supposed
to file a form.
Mr. Marina: I'm Anthony G. Marina, 4800 Fine Drive. I'm the ... I still think
I'm the president of the Grove Gateway Association. And we're not being
compensated, we're being aggravated. 7'd like to just be very brief, and I
want to clarify a few things. Perhaps some things that, I think, the Mayor
might not. have been that familiar with. So, I'm in a way addressing myself to
the whole Commission, but in particular to i!ayor Suarez. The reason this
study was started, and the reason that the change of zoning is proposed, is
that after ... in that. small middle section, having three changes of zoning, one
after the other, which the Flanning Department had to oppose, because they
were not in accord with the master plan, it, was requested from some of us, the
property owners, who were on our way to request. changes of zoning, if we would
be willing - and the Civic_ Club was one of the ones who said, "Could we have a
study?" - would the owners be agreeable to having a study, and would you
comply with the study? We formed an association, I think we have attended 16
or 18 meetA ngs, and finally the Planning Department came up with the study,
which we are very much in accord with. In particular, the one thing that I
would like to clarify - the reason everybody says, "change everything else but
don't change the middle," is that the middle is the only thing left to change.
The rest is already R0. It was mentioned here that we're going to be changed
to CR. We're going to be changed to R0. That area is getting to be pretty
derelict. With the new tax code that was just enacted...
Mayor Suarez: Area's getting to be pretty ... what?
Mr. Marina: The area's pretty derelict already. That center core, OK? I'll
let somebody else address that. But, the one thing that I wanted to point out
is that there have been some people that have come up and have drawn some
conclusions that could be called empirical, rather than going by the facts.
Twenty-seventh Avenue, at 8:00 o'clock in the morning, picks up 104 cars on
South Bayshore. By the time you reach Tigertail, you have 124 cars. As soon
as you cross Tigertail, you go up to 217 cars; i.e., you have doubled the
volume on 27th, and you have picked it up from Tigertail. And I would like
for the Tigertail Association to note this: 27th Avenue is acting as your
relief valve. Yes, you're empirically looking at cars coming down Tigertail,
and you're saying you have a problem; but if 27th Avenue was not there, you
would have 100 more cars trailing past you. When you get to Bird Road, you're
up to 320, meaning that cars keep coming in to 27th Avenue. As you cross Bird
Road, you're up to 382 cars. Now, obviously, people are not coming from Dixie
to Bird to go back up, so obviously they're coming through Swanson and going
out 27th. It's a single lane. It's taking out of Coconut Grove 382 cars. If
27th Avenue is expanded to 70 feet - a lot of people don't go to the technical
meetings. What was agreed was 70 feet. We will donate the feet that are
needed. The other 15 feet will be either a wide sidewalk, with planters -
whatever you want to do, but it's up to the property owner - but I think what
we agreed was, you would control it. It's sort of your property; it is not
street. It is a wide sidewalk, it's got planters, but it's only 70 feet. But
anyway...
Mayor Suarez: Wait, is that a proposed agreement, with all the abutting
property owners? Is that what you're implying?
Mr. Marina: Our association stated, as far as the owners that were getting
the changes in zoning, and I cannot speak for all of them, but a great
majority of the owners agreed to the 70 feet, and agreed that we would give
the other 15. In fact, I've already given part of my 15 in some cases. I
have no choice.
Mayor Suarez: That's a dream, Tony. I mean, it's a nice dream, but it's a...
Mr. Marina: It isn't a dream.
Mrs. Kennedy: Tony, how many members do you have?
Mr. Marina: Huh?
Mrs. Kennedy: Tony how many members do you have?
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October 23, 1986
Mr. Marina: About 60. We had. Some died. (Laughter) Anyway, I just want
you to...
Mr. Plummer: Please, on the record - I did not bury any of them. Please,
please. Here I thought I was...
(Laughter)'
Mr. Marina: Let me see if I can finish quickly. What I was saying is, you're
getting 382 cars going out, at 8:00 o'clock to 9:00 o'clock in the morning, on
a one-lene street. If. you amplify the street, if you go to the four or the
five lanes, more people are going to start shooting up 27th, then down
Tigertail, and another error - when you get to 27th Avenue, I don't care - and
you're an engineer if the light is 15 seconds or 30 seconds, if You've got
one lane, you're going to get X amount of cprs. If you've got three lanes and
two turning ],ones, which is what you would have at 27th, in that same 15
seconds, you're going to move four or five times the volume of cars, and
Mayor, you know that is a correct engineering conclusion. And with that, I
thank you, I thank the Planning Department. I must say it has been fun.
Thank you.
(Applause)
Mayor Suarez,: Thank you for your presentation. Hopefully this concludes the
different presentations for and against 27th Avenue study and we can get on to
the comprehensive master plan, if we're going to get on to it or not, or
postpone consideration, or whatever we're going to do, and move on to the rest
of the items. What is the Commission's pleasure? We certainly heard about
this enough times.
Mr. Plummer: Go ahead, Mr. Campbell.
Mr. George Campbell, Jr.: May I address the question of the right-of-way and
so on? At the present time, it is correct that it's a County roadway. We
have discussed it with the County. Their original proposal was for a standard
70-foot County roadway through there, which means that it would look like 22nd
Avenue north of the highway. The proposal that the City, for years now, has
been considering and working toward, with the hundred -foot right-of-way, which
has been zoned that way for at least 30 years that I know of, is that we would
have the median, we would have two lanes of traffic, and then provide for the
landscaping on the sides, plus a wide sidewalk, which may or may not include a
bicycle lane. That's, you know, flexible. We arrived at that - Department of
Public Works arrived at that - in concert with the Planning Department, and in
discussing it with some of the people, and other people in Coconut Grove, they
want that kind - they did, anyway, want that kind of an entry, a beautified
entry into Coconut Grove from 27th Avenue. The zoned street - we call it zone
street; the base building line width of 100 feet is a matter of an ordinan-e.
It's on the books, it's in the Code. Just, you know, 70-foot, everybody talks
70 feet - it's 70 feet from back of curb to back of curb, under the proposal.
The County said they would build it that way, with the median, if the City
then would go ahead and provide the additional 15 feet on either side. Mr.
Marina has said that they... that generally, the group that he represents,
anyway, has agreed that they are willing to do that, to dedicate that to the
public. The City would provide the sidewalks and the landscaping. We would
end up eventually with a four -lane roadway, wide median - you need the wide
median so that at major intersections, where you have a turn lane, then you
can, as they call it, shadow the turning vehicle, so that he's not opposing
traffic. Whereas, on... as you know, on 22nd Avenue, and 17th Avenue, you get
in there on that turn lane, and it's a little bit ... a little frightening
sometimes, when they come running down toward you. So that the overall plan
that has been developed over the years, we think, Planning Department thinks,
and I hope the majority of the Coconut people who are going to be working with
it in Coconut Grove, agree: this will work. Mr. Cooke -Yarborough mentioned
something about increasing the traffic, I think he said 143 percent, something
in that nature. That's true, but we're increasing the capacity by 200
_ percent, so that you have a net loss there. The business of the signals - I
personally have gone out and observed the traffic today - not today, I mean in
this period of time - at the signalized intersections - Bayshore Drive,
Tigertail, Bird Road. I did not go with Dixie, because I know at that point
everybody has a problem getting across. But at the other intersections which
are of prime concern to the Grove, the traffic cleared the intersection on the
green signal, in each direction. So that, it is not a question of funneling a
fd 95 October 23, 1986
whole lot of stuff through a pipe and then having a blocked end. Yes, you
have a signal; but thatsignal, then, allows the traffic to come through in
groups, in platoons, without having it strung cut all along; so that, in that
way, then, there is a period of time when traffic from the side streets can
get in, mare vhF.tever turns they need to... or- even get across. So that, you
know, -F wnul(i support the FlFnning %)epart.rmentvp wo.06 support the changes
in zoning, because statist.ic¢lly they do not adversely... will rot adversely
affect the ultimate 77th ttvr, ,,e,
Mr. Plummer: Well, wh...are you saying to me, then, if I put a stipulation in
there of a maximum 70-foot road, you'd have s problem with that?
Mr. Campbell: Yes. We wouldn't have ... we wouldn't be able to develop it, the
way it should be developed. As I said, it would look like 17th Avenue or 22nd
Avenue,
Mr. Plummer: Yeah, but look, here's...
Mr. Campbell: With nothing on it.
Mr. Plummer: The point is, and you know and I know what happens in these
things all of the time between the City and the County. Right now the County
doesn't own the property, and the City doesn't own the property, OK? And the
problem usually boils down in the final analysis where it never gets done,
because the County won't pay for it and the City doesn't have the money. Now,
are we not over -fear of the thing that will never be a reality? Why not speak
to it today and get it behind us? If, in fact ... can we ... Madame City
Attorney, can we place a stipulation, if this is approved, on, each person
must have, or given, as Tony spoke, the 15 feet, or they don't get their
zoning change?
(INAUDIBLE COMMENT, OFF MIKE)
Mr. Plummer: Well, but you see, you don't represent each and every owner, OK?
That's the...
Mr. Campbell and Mr. Pierce: Mr. Plummer...
Mayor Suarez: Can we make that dream into a requirement, is what the
Commissioner is...
Mr. Plummer: Can we require that every owner must donate that, or he does not
get his zoning?
Mr. Campbell: May I...well...
Mrs. Dougherty: Well, again...
Mayor Suarez: Everybody wants to answer at the same time. We got three.
Mr. Campbell: Well, there is a provision...
Mayor Suarez: I hope you all agree.
Mr. Campbell: ...on the books that before they can get a building permit for
anything,...
Mr. Pierce: Anything!
Mr. Campbell: ...for anything!, they have to donate the additional right-of-
way.
Mr. Pierce: Absolutely. Right nowt
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER (OFF MIKE): Right now.
Mayor Suarez: I still might want to build in a resolution on your motion that
says that we want the County to understand our concern about making it into a
hundred -foot thoroughfare. I mean, it's just a resolution. God knows what
effect it will have, but it might have some effect. It certainly tells our
City staff how to deal with the County and how to try to convince them.
Commissioner? Any...
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Mr. Plummer: I am very much in accord with that.
Mrs. Kennedy: I have no problems, either.
Mayor Suarez: Is t.hat...you want to make that in the form of a motion?
Mr. Campbell: Mr. mayor.
Mr. Plummer: Well, I think, well there's not a motion to be made until the
main is passed first.
Mr. Pierce: Yes, but., just for your information, I believe this Commission
has already passed a motion several months ago to that effect, urging the
County to consider that. We can research that and advise you definitely, and
then you can convert it to a. resolution.
Mayor. Suarez: No, at the time, what I wanted to do is not to have any work
done on 27th Avenue at all, and I'm willing to go with a compromise that says
only to 70 feet.
Mr. Plummer: I'll offer that in the form of a resolution.
Mayor Suarez: Including the acceptance, also, of the 27th Avenue study? Or
you want ... you're going to go one...
Mr. Plummer: You mean the traffic study?
Mayor Suarez: No, the item, the item that we're concerned...
Mr. Plummer: You're speaking about PZ-5? Yes, air.
Mayor Suarez: Right.
Mr. Campbell: PZ-5, yes. Mr. Mayor, could you specify a roadway width of...
Mr. Plummer: Yeah.
Mr. Campbell:...of 70 feet?
Mayor Suarez: Seventy.
Mr. Plummer: Not to exceed 70 feet.
Mayor Suarez: We can't be mo_e specific than that.
Mr. Campbell: Well, as opposed to right-of-way width. See, right-of-way
would be back of sidewalk to back of sidewalk. The roadway would be back of
curb to back of curb, which would allow for the two lanes with a divider in
the middle, the median in the middle.
Mayor Suarez: We're envisioning 70 feet of roadway and 15 feet on each side
of...
Mr. Campbell: All right.
Mayor Suarez: ...- additional, you know, pedestrian, or whatever. Amenities.
Mrs. Dougherty: Right-of-way.
Mr. Campbell: Fine.
Mr. Pierce: Right.
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: Can I say one sentence?
Mayor Suarez: One sentence? I'm going to hold you to that.
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: One sentence.
Mayor Suarez: No more nitpicking.
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UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: OK.
Mr. Fierce: A lot of commas, though, right? A lot of commas?
UNIDENTIFIED SFFAYEP: ETo, no commas. I would like you to consider barricades
which would protect the resident of north Grove from this new proposal. Block
off the streets. 1'd live to iust have that in the record.
Mayor Suare,: G'r- ran s1_1re35- tFkP that up at another time, but we're not going _
to do that toc'a}, as le can imagine.
Mr. Plummer: i'eah. Excuse me, let. me tell you how you go about that. You
get a (croup or, your rssidents there - Ol;? - just as they did in Belle Meade,
just as they did in others, Fnd you present it to this Commission, any kind of
a problem that you hive, Pnd then this Commission will agree or disagree with
you, and ask that the Metro Dade County, who is in charge of that, do or not
do.
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER (OFF MIKE): So it's Metro.
Mr. Plummer: Metro. Mee-tro.
Mayor Suarez: It's a motion and a second. Any further...
Mr. Plummer: As amended.
Mayor Suarez: As amended, with the proviso of the 70 feet maximum roadway
width. Call the roll..
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 86-860
A RESOLUTION APPROVING, IN PRINCIPLE, "SOUTHWEST 27TH
AVENUE - A GATEWAY TO COCONUT GROVE: A PLANNING STUDY OF
DEVELOPMENT AND TRAFFIC IMPACTS" DATED AUGUST, 1985, AS A++.
GUIDE FOR ZONING ACTIONS A14D TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS
IN THE AREA BOUNDED BY SOUTH DIXIE HIGHWAY TO SOUTH
BAYSHORE DRIVE FROM APPROXIMATELY 350 FEET EAST TO 350
FEET WEST OF SOUTHWEST 27TH AVENUE, INCLUDING THE AREA
FROM SOUTHWEST 27TH AVENUE TO VIRGINIA STREET, 200 FEET
NORTH AND SOUTH OF COCONUT AVENUE.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here
and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Kennedy, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor Miller J. Dawkins
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
ON ROLL CALL:
t
Mayor Suarez: I'm going to vote "yes." It's not really what I wanted, but it -
= seemed like a fair compromise.
fd 98 October 23, 1986
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25. SECOND READING ORDINANCE: AMEND MIAMI COMPREHENSIVE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN -
CHANGE ZONING DESIGNATIONS OF CERTAIN AREAS IN COCONUT GROVE.
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Mayor Suarez: We've got Items PZ...
Mr. Olmedillo: PZ-4.
Mr. Plummer: Wait, we've got to go back to four now.
Mr. Olmedillo: We have to go to PZ-4, which is the plan amendment.
Mayor Suarez: Four and six are related, right?
Mr. Olmedillo: Four and five are related. The only thing is that,...
Mayor Suarez: Well, five, which is the...
Mr. Olmedillo: We took five...
Mayor Suarez: But four and six are both regarding the... they're not.
Mr. Olmedillo: Prior to four.
Mayor Suarez: All right. Tell us why they're not.
Mr. Olmedillo: Item 4 is the Comprehensive Plan amendment, which places this
in compliance with the general Comprehensive Plan amendment.
Mr. Plummer: I got problems with six.
Mr. Pierce: We're on four.
Mr. Olmedillo: Except we're on five now.
Mr. Pierce: Four, four.
Mr. Olmedillo: I mean on four, excuse me.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I move PZ-4.
Mr. Dawkins: Which is four?
Mr. Plummer: Four is the overlay.
Mr. Olmedillo: Twenty-seventh Avenue.
Mr. Dawkins: That's this?
Mr. Olmedillo: The 27th Avenue plan amendment.
Mr. Dawkins: That's this?
Mr. Olmedillo: No, that's six.
Mr. Plummer: No, that's six.
Mrs. Kennedy: Item 4, anybody who wants a zoning change has to come
individually before this board, correct?
Mr. Olmedillo: Yes, ma'am.
Mrs. Kennedy: OK, I second your motion.
Mayor Suarez: Moved and second. Any discussion? We have to read the
ordinance. Call the roll.
fd 99 October 23, 1986
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE MIAMI COMPREHENSIVE
NEIGHBORHOOD PLANS BY CHANGING THE DESIGNATIONS FOR
THE SUBJECT PROPERTIES FROM MODERATE TO HIGH DENSITY
RESIDENTIAL DESIGNATION TO F.FSIDf:1�TTIAT:/CO1�'M',ERCIAL
DESIGNATION ON SOUTiiGrFST 2 7TH AN,711d77F FROM
APPROXIMATELY 100 FEFT SOUTH OF PIPD POAD 710 TJGFRTAIL
AVENUE AND TROTS LOW TO MODE..PATF PFSIDENT IAL
DESIGNATION? TO M,ODF:R_ATF DENSITY RESIDENTIAL
DESIGNATION EAST OF CENTER STREET, I -POTS AFPPDXIMATELY
100 FEET SOUTH OF BIRD ROAD TO AFFROXIISATELY 200 FEET
NORTH OF DAY AVENIiE, AND VEST OF SOUTHWEST 27TH AVENUE
FROM COCOANUT AVE141JE TO APPROXIMATELY JOO FEET NORTH
OF BIRD AVENUE, AND 014 LOTS FRO14TI14G THE SOUTH SIDE OF
COCOANUT AVENUE FROM VIRGINIA STREET TO APPROXIMATELY
150 FEET WEST OF 27TH ANFEIUE, FROM LOW DENSITY
RESIDENTIAL DESIG14ATION TO MODERATE TO HIGH DENSITY
RESIDENTIAL DESIGNATION FOR LOTS ON THE 14ORTTI SIDE OF
COCOANUT AVENUE FROM APPROXIMATELY 150 FEET EAST OF
VIRGINIA STREET TO APPROXIMATELY 150 FEET WEST OF 27TH
AVENUE; FURTHER, CHANGING THE DESIGNATION FOR THAT
PROPERTY APPROXIMATELY 100 FEET BY 200 FEET IN SIZE,
FRONTING 014 THE EAST SIDE OF SOUTHWEST 26TH AVENUE,
BETWEEN SOUTHWEST 27TH LANE AND SOUTHWEST 28TH STREET
FROM A DESIGNATION OF LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO A NEW
ONE OF RESIDENTIAL/COMMERCIAL; MAK114G FINDINGS;
CONTAINING A REPEALER PROVISION AND A SEVERABILITY
CLAUSE.
Passed on its first reading by title at the meeting of May 22, 1986, was taken
up for its second and final reading by title and adoption. On motion of
Commissioner Plummer, seconded by Commissioner Kennedy, the ordinance was
thereupon given its second and final reading by title and passed and adopted
by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor Miller J. Dawkins
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
THE ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO. 10166
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and
announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commission and
to the public.
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26. SECOND READING ORDINANCE: ADOPT MIAMI COMPREHENSIVE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN
(5 -5) WHICH AMENDS EXISTING PLAN (1976-1986).
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Mayor Suarez: PZ-6. That's the actual overlay? Or whatever you...
Mr. Sergio Rodriguez: PZ-6. Oh, I'm sorry. Ready? PZ-6 is the item that
has been before you before. It is the second reading of the Comprehensive
Neighborhood Plan for the City of Miami. Basically, what we did with this
plan is to reflect all the changes that have been made by this Commission, and
the previous Commission, and reflect all those zoning changes, so the map will
L be up to date, and any time you make a decision, it will reflect the land uses
that have been made as a result of the zoning changes. And that's all I have
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to say to that.
Mr. Dawkins: OK, why is it that —you have one of these in front of you?
Mr. Rodriguez: Yeah.
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Mr. Dawkins: OK. Why is it that Main Highway, if you come up you have one
blue.. OR, yeah, put it up, yeah, that's it. OK. Right here, that's what I
want...
Mayor suprez: We'll. just ask you if you can translate it., Sergio...
Mr. I?Fv*jns (OFF MIKE): All right, v-hy is itt that. —this is Main Highway.
Why isn't this color here all the way to Main highway? This color here all
the way to Main Highway, and this color here all the way to Main Highway?
Mr. Rodriguez: ( INAITDIBLE C0111MF.,NT, OFF MIKE)
Mr. Dawkins- No, no, why do you have this little Commercial...
Mayor Suarez: Right., strip.
Mr. Dawkins (OFF MIKE): This strip this side. Main High -.!ay.
Mayor Suarez: State the question into the record, Sergio, because I have the
same question, and I'm not sure how to ask it; and then give us an answer,
hopefully.
Mr. Rodriguez: The question is, why do we have, in the Comprehensive Plan,
color - yellow colors - in the area that is adjacent to Bayside, to the Bay
area, in. the Coconut Grove area, and as it goes all. the way to Main Highway,
and the yellow color, which is shown for Residential, doesn't show all the way
through to Main Highway; and we show there red color, which represents
Commercial? And the answer to that question is, that that reflects the
recommendation that we had in the past in the previous plan.
Mr. Dawkins: How do you change that recommendation?
Mr. Rodriguez: You can ask me to study the plan and make a correction, or you
can make a decision on the plan right now, that you don't believe that the
color should be red, that the color should be yellow, and that should be
enough.
Mr. Dawkins: OK, all right, OK. What do you say, that I can accept the plan,
and you make all these colors the same all the way up the Main Highway - is
that what you're saying?
Mayor Suarez: With that modification we can accept the plan?
Mr. Rodriguez: We...Wait, one second. I think, in order to change this and
to make sure that we are reflecting a more careful consideration by you all,
is that we should come back with a study of that specific area to reflect why
we are proposing then residential all the way through to Main Highway.
Mr. Dawkins: If I hold up the whole plan, how much of a hardship will that
create?
Mr. Rodriguez: Well, it will hold action on some of the zoning changes that
you have today, later on and in the future; and I couldn't tell you exactly
how many, but it would be several of them.
Mr. Dawkins: Professionally, would you suggest that I pass this, with the
recommendation that you go back and study that, or would you, professionally,
suggest that I delay the whole thing?
Mr. Rodriguez: I recommend that we follow this with the study that we have to
undertake for that area.
Mr. Plummer: But how are you going to do it? Are you going to do it by
i deferring the whole project, or doing just the deferment of that particular...
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Mrs. Dougherty: We'll pass it as it is and come back with the study later.
Mayor Suarez: Yeah, are we giving the wrong signal by approving the whole
Athing with something that...
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Mr. Plummer: I'm scared to death you are, especially a present lawsuit that'&
been filed.
Mr. Dawkins: That's right. That's my biggest problem, we got a lawsuit now,
pertaining to one of these sections of the area here...
Mayor Suare?: NAdame City Attorney, can we somehow carve out - I'm sorry to
interrupt - carve out tbpt wa don't_ sanction in any way that particular aspect
of it., pending a study? FFc.acrse we do need to get along with our...
Mr. Plummer: See the tiro people Jumped up over there?
Mayor Suarez: Yeah, they're over there conferring.
Mr. Plummer: See the two people?
Mayor Suarez: They're trying to figure out how to use this. Madame City
Attorney?
Mrs. Dougherty: I think that...
Mr. Plummer: I'll tell you... let me tell you...
Mrs. Dougherty: If you, on the record, say that you're passing this plan
amendment, as it is...
Mr. Dawkins: No way.
Mr. Plummer: No.
Mr. Dawkins: No way.
Mr. Plummer: No, I'll tell you how you're going to do it.
Mr. Dawkins: How are we going to do it?
Mr. Plummer: There's only one way you're going to do it.
Mr. Dawkins: What is it?
Mr. Plummer: That's reject this plan.
Mr. Dawkins: All right, so moved.
Mr. Plummer: We reject this plan.
Mr. Dawkins: So moved.
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Mayor Suarez: Aren't you happy that we let you finish your opinions, there,
Madame City Attorney?
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Mrs. Dougherty: We'd recommend that it would be sufficient if you were to
pass the plan as it is, making note that you want this particular area
restudied by the Planning Board and the Planning staff,...
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Mrs. Dougherty: ...and come back with a recommendation within 60 days, with a
new plan amendment. Remember, this used to be that you could only amend the
plan twice a year, but that's not the case any more.
Mr. Dawkins: Since there is a lawsuit pending, and since the lawsuit might
make this action moot, I move that we delay this until after the lawsuit.
Mr. Plummer: No, you...
a Mrs. Dougherty: No, no, you don't want to delay the entire plan amendment.
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Mr. Plummer: No, no, no. I will make a motion that we reject this plan.
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Mr. Dawkins: Second.
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Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded.
Mr. Plummer: Nov you ... what I'm saying in my motion to reject, is to bring me
back a. different plan.
Mrs. Kennedy: nK, vbPt ere you looking for, exactly?
Mr.. Plummer: I Fin't saying on the record. N000000. You don't play them
games with me.
Mrs. Kennedy: Sergio, what's wrong with this?
Mr. Pierce: (OFF MIKE): Sergio's going to have to go back to Tallahassee.
(Laughter)
Mr. Rodriguez: Well...
Mr. Pierce: You got two Commissioners who don't like it.
Mrs. Dougherty: Mr. Commissioner. Mr. Commissioner. Just a minute.
Mayor Suarez: Two?
Mr. Plummer: Why don't you go talk to Sergio?
Mayor Suarez: Walter, threel
Mr. Pierce: Three?
Mayor Suarez: Yes.
Mrs. Kennedy: I talked to Sergio yesterday - he says "no problem."
Mr. Rodriguez: I think that maybe, you know, we have a new procedure by which
we can amend this plan, and the proced...
Mr. Plummer: Yeah, but you see, once you present this plan and we accept it,
you have given credence to a certain action that is ongoing. If you reject
this plan, you then deal the cards in our favor. That's why my motion is to
reject.
Mrs. Dougherty: I think we can reach a solution, by simply saying - the
Planning Department came to you with the plan as it was before, because they
hadn't studied that particular area. What they're saying to you is, they're
going to come back to you with a study.
Mr. Dawkins: Then let's fire them, because they should have studied it before
bringing this back.
Mr. Plummer: I second the motion.
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Mayor Suarez: To do that, we first have to fire the City Manager, I think.
Mr. Dawkins: No, we fired him yesterday.
Mayor Suarez: OK, what's the Commission's pleasure? We have a motion and a
second to reject the ... you're waving, Sergio.
Mr. Plummer: That's right.
Mrs. Dougherty: But you know, Mr. Commissioner, if you reject it, you're
going back to the same plan which shows it the same way it was. '
Mr. Plummer: No, reject it for a new plan. This plan's not acceptable to us. is
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Mr. Rodriguez: But then, the plan that we have in...
Mr. Plummer: So, in the next zoning hearing, you come back with another plan
that we find acceptable.
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Mayor Suarez: Can't we pass the rest of the plan, except for thibt
Mr. Rodriguez: No, no, no.
Mr. Dawkins: What, now?
Mr. Rodriguez: If_ you reject...
Mayor Suarez: heave a blank there? Can't we just leave a blank, a question
mark, end have the overlay reflect the question mark - the Commission is
studying that? A big ... the letters, you know "This is being studied," an
asterisk, or whfitever?
Mrs. Dougherty: We can make a designation that we asterisked it, say we're
going to study this one snd come back with a plan later - amendment later.
Mr. Dawkins: No, you know...
Mrs. Dougherty: It's appropriate.
Mr. Dawkins: See, the only problem I have with this is, why Mould the
administration, you know, come in here with this plan? OK?
Mr. Plummer: Because they don't live in the City and don't pay the taxes.
Mr. Dawkins: Yeah, you see? That's right. You know, and then, all of a
sudden, you've got one little sliver of land here, and another little sliver,
and then you go and put another Commercial in here. You did it deliberatelyl
You deliberately put these Commer...
Mr. Plummer: No, no, no. No, no.
Mr. Rodriguez: Naw.
Mr. Pierce: Mr. Dawkins...
Mr. Rodriguez: It's on the record, and I tell you...
Mr. Plummer: No, I don't go along with that.
Mr. Pierce: Mr. Dawkins, Mr. Dawkins, just... I'm not... just for the record.
Mr. Plummer: As bad as he is, he didn't do it deliberately.
Mr. Pierce: No. Just for the record, this plan, as regards that particular
area, is identical to the existing plan.
Mr. Rodriguez: Right.
Mr. Dawkins: But why bring it... OK. Well, then, change the whole plan, then.
Mr. Rodriguez: Because if you stay with the existing plan, you are not doing
anything. If you reject the plan now, completely, without asking me to study
the area, come back to you next Commission meeting,...
Mr. Plummer: No, what we're asking you is to bring us back...
Mrs. Dougherty: Let him finish.
Mr. Plummer:.... new plan.
Mrs. Dougherty: Let him finish. It has to go back to the D.C.A.
Mr. Pierce: It does. All the way back to Tallahassee.
Mr. Plummer: What's wrong with that? What's wrong with that?
Mrs. Dougherty: Because you don't need to do that. You can reach the same
solution the way we are suggesting, as opposed to having... rejecting this
particular plan and starting all over again. You can make amendments to this
big plan.
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Mr. Plummer: Yeah, but you can only make two amendments to this plan a year.
Mrs. Dougherty: No, no, no, that's been changed.
Mr. Rodriguez: There is a glitch bill that takes care of this specific type
of amendment, becFvse its' residential, and it's of a certain size.
Mrs. Kennedy: All right, so let's :mend it, then.
Mayor SUPre7: Them hcpfifully there'll be % bill that will eliminate the whole
requirement by the time all of this is asid and done.
Mr. Plummer: 1991,
Mr. Rodriguez: That probably will not be there before my retirement from the
Commission.
Mr. Plummer: The way you're going, you're right.
Mr. Rodriguez: It will come very fast.
(Laughter)
Mayor Suarez: I have a feeling I'm going to...anyhow, ...
Mr. Rodriguez: I recommend again that you consider asking the Planning
Department to study this area and come back at the Planning...
Mr. Plummer: OK, let me ask you this.
Mr. Rodriguez: ...City Commission meeting of November...
Mr. Plummer: How about...
Mr. Rodriguez: with our recommendation dealing with this and any other matter
that you might have concern with.
Mr. Plummer: How about if we pass it, but we designate a large area to
restudy?
Mrs. Dougherty: That's fine. Do whatever you want.
Mr. Plummer (OFF MIKE): In other words, how about if we pass this plan, and
we say to the Planning Department that we want you to go back and we want you
to restudy all of the central business Grove? How about that?
Ms. Hirai: I can't hear. Use the microphone. Use the microphone.
Mr. Plummer (OFF MIKE): Mike doesn't work? Sorry, the mike doesn't work.
Ms. Hirai: It does, huh?
Mr. Dawkins: It don't.
Mr. Rodriguez: May I suggest that I undertake a study of the area - general
area - of the Coconut Grove around the central business district, and the...
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor.
Mr. Rodriguez: Bay area.
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Mr. Plummer: I withdraw my motion, on the recommendation of the Planning
Director, and I will move to approve this plan, based on the delineation to
restudy, as lie has indicated, from Bird Road south - Bird Road south, is that
what you said?
Mr. Rodriguez: The downtown area... a
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Mr. Plummer: The downtown central business district of Coconut Grove.
Mr. Rodriguez: ...of Grove, all the way to the Bay.
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Mr. Plummer: Yes. I'll move that at this time.
Mayor Suarez: OK. We have a new motion. Do we have a second for the new
motion 7
Mrs. Kennedy: Yee, I'll second. That sounds...
Mr. Dawkins: I'll second while they're making up their minds over there.
Mayor Suarez: Seconded for a second.
Mr. Dawkins: Go ahead, you second. OK.
Ms. Hirai; Who's seconding?
Mrs. Kennedy: Yeah, I second.
Mayor Suarez: Third it.
Mr. Dawkins: Are you two together? OK,
Mayor Suarez: An further discussion? Call the roll. Or do we have to
read...
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN ORDINANCE ADOPTING THE MIAMI COMPREHENSIVE
NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN AND ADDENDUM, DATED SEPTEMBER, 1985,
WHICH REPLACES MIAMI COMPREHENSIVE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN
1976-1986; PROVIDING PURPOSE; INCORPORATING THE
OFFICIAL GUIDE; PROVIDING FOR A TRANSITIONAL PERIOD;
AND CONTAINING A REPEALER PROVISION AND A SEVERABILITY
CLAUSE.
Passed on its first reading by title at the meeting of June 26, 1986, was
taken up for its second and final reading by title and adoption. On motion of
Commissioner Plummer, seconded by Commissioner Kennedy, the Ordinance was
thereupon given its second and final reading by title and passed and adopted
by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor Miller J. Dawkins
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
THE ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO. 10167.
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and
announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commission and
to the public.
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27A. SECOND READING ORDINANCE: AMEND MIAMI COMFRFHFNSTVE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN -
CHANGE DFSIGNATION OF FROFERTY AT 3G27-3523 S.W. 22 TERRACE
(AFFLICANT: KAITLRlA FROFFRTIES, N.V. )
27B. FIRST RFADINL= ORPTKANCF,: AMEND MIAMI CO", F HFNSIVF NEIGHBORHOOD FLAN
CHANGE DFSIGNATION OF FROFF.,RTY AT 3421-3523 S.W. 22 TERRACE
(APPLICAN`T: K.AITUMA FROFERTIFS, N.V. )
Mayor Suarez: PZ-...
Mr. Plummer: Seven.
Mayor Suarez: Seven. A and B, I guess are companion items. These second
reading?
Mr. Plummer: Hmmm?
Mr. Olmedillo: PZ-7A, PZ-7B, and PZ-8, are related items. PZ-7A will be the
second reading to the plan that you have just amended. There is a proviso in
the ordinance that there is a period of 180 days for the people who are under
the old plan, to get a building permit.
Mayor Suarez: Yeah, we understand that each one of these now is going to have
a reference back to the Miami Comprehensive Master Plan.
Mr. Olmedillo: Right.
Mr. Plummer: A grace period.
Mayor Suarez: That's one of these B's or A's, or whatever. What's this
particular item about? It was passed unanimously last time around. Do we
have anyone here that wishes to be heard for or against?
Mr. Plummer: Wait a minute, where's the covenant - which is the covenant on
this one?
Mr. Olmedillo: The covenant? The covenant is contained...
Mr. Plummer: I've got two covenants. Which one is it?
Mr. Olmedillo: The only difference in the covenant...
Mr. Plummer: OK, all right. (PAUSE) For the record, my concern was in
Section 8, about the severability. The way it was written before, that if one
item was thrown out it didn't affect the others, this one doesn't address that
concern, and as far as I'm concerned, it's fine.
Mr. Dawkins: OK, well, my concern... This is 22nd? OK. You also got one
dealing with Lots 17 and 18, right?
Mr. Olmedillo: Yes, sir.
Mr. Rodriguez: Yes, sir.
Mr. Dawkins: Now, who owns 19, 20, 21, and 22, and 23?
Mr. Olmedillo: We have no record on that, sir.
Mr. Dawkins: See... OK.
Mr. Olmedillo: They are individual residences.
Mr. Dawkins: What you are doing is rezoning a whole block, OK?
Mr. Olmedillo: In effect.
j Mr. Dawkins: And what you're going to do now is, have a domino effect, and
people are going to cross over 22nd Avenue,...
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Mr. Olmedillo: Terrace.
Mr. Plummer: Terrace.
Mr. Dawkins: reople are going to cross over 22nd Avenue..,
Mayor Suarez: Terrace.
Mrs. Dougherty: Terrace.
Mr. Dawkins: ...and we're going to - Terrace - and we're going to end up with
the same thing. Now, Mr. Rodriguez, what do I do to prevent the domino effect
south of 22nd Terrece7
Mr. Plummer: You put, in a ten -foot No Zone.
Mr. Rodriguez: You can put a portion of the area unzoned, like 20 feet, from
the street, and if you leave that area unzoned...
Mr. Plummer: Unzoned.
Mr. Rodriguez: ...then there will be...thry keep it for the same zoning that
you have now. They cannot ask for transitional uses, or they cannot ask for a
change of zoning based on that issue.
Mr. Dawkins: So that way, we would not have to worry about anything coming
into the residential area...
Mr. Plummer: Jumping.
Mr. Rodriguez: Right.
Mr. Dawkins: south of 22nd Avenue?
Mr. Plummer: Jumping.
Mr. Rodriguez: Right.
Mr. Dawkins: OK, well, if we move it, I want to move it with those
restrictions, if it's moved. And that's on 18 - 17, 18, and...
Mayor Suarez: Seven. 7A and —oh, you mean...
Mr. Dawkins: 17, 18, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29.
Mayor Suarez: Oh, the lots.
Mr. Dawkins: On all of them.
Mr. Olmedillo: If I may continue. When we made our initial presentation, we
had suggested specifically that the area be rezoned minus a distance, so that
the mass of the building would be less impacted on the southern side of it;
that there would be no exit, no access, on 22nd Terrace, and that there would
be a buffer between the residential and the commercial area which is being
rezoned, or being proposed.
Mr. Dawkins: Still, my concern is that we do not allow anybody to come south
of 22nd Terrace.
Mr. Olmedillo: Yes, sir.
Mr. Dawkins: So, I mean, what you're saying is beautiful. OK? The building
is fine, but that doesn't accomplish what I want. OK?
Mr. Plummer: Is there anyone here to speak in opposition? It's second
reading.
Mayor Suarez: Let the record reflect that no one stepped forward against the
application.
Mr. Plummer: I move Item PZ-7.
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Mr. Dawkins: With the restriction that they...
Mr. Plummer: Yes, of course.
Mr. Dawkins: Ten feet.? Thst they leave the ten feet. Secoad.
Mr. Plummer- That's on the yellow hatched.
Mayor Suarez.: Twenty feet, you're talking about.
Mr. Dawkins: Yeah, on the yellow hatched, yes, um-hmm. So moved.
UNIDENTIFIED SFEAKER: 7A.
Mr. Plummer: Excuse me?
Mr. Rodriguez.: That is 7A.
Mr. Plummer: Pz-7.
Mr. Rodriguez: "A."
Mayor Suarez: 7A.
Mr. Rodriguez: 7A.
Mr. Plummer: You're right.
Mayor Suarez: OK, now, is it 20 feet that you're talking about, or is it ten
feet?
Mr. Dawkins: Ten. I think we said ten feet there.
Mr. Rodriguez: We had suggested 20 feet.
Mr. Dawkins: All right, whatever you... what does the Planning Department...
Mr. Plummer: What did you agree to? Counselor?
Mr. Tony O'Lonnell: Mr. Commissioner, for the record, my name is Tony
O'Donnell, with law offices at 1401 Brickell Avenue. I've registered as a
lobbyist on this matter.
Mr. Plummer: Thank you for the commercial.
Mr. O'Donnell: We have not agreed to that particular recommendation by the
Planning Department.
Mr. Plummer: You agreed to a setback and a landscaped area.
Mr. O'Donnell: Yes, we have. I would like to address the issue, if I could
just briefly, as to what their concerns are, and our response to those
concerns. We addressed them last time, but I'd like to remind the
Commissioners, if I could, what our position is. Now, basically, if you look
at the existing uses along here, Commissioner, along 22nd Terrace.
Notwithstanding the Residential zoning of the properties, they have been all
used for commercial - ancillary commercial - uses as parking lots for the
frontage along Coral Way.
Mayor Suarez: You're not addressing the problem.
Mr. O'Donnell: I understand. What...
Mayor Suarez: We're trying to stop the domino effect, and we're told that's
the only way to do it, Tony.
Mr. O'Donnell: Well, I think they're wrong. For one thing, bringing the
zoning back to this property line will not allow any transitional zoning,
because transitional zoning does not go across this public right-of-way, and
that's one point.
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Mr. Dawkins: Well, wait a minute, now. See, your client pay you to speak up
for them. Is he correct?
Mr. Olmedillo: The transitional issue, yes. The only thing is that the
people who ere on the southern side of 22nd Terrace, they may apply for a
change of Toning, because the district is abutting the commercial district.
Mr. Dawkins: OK.
Mr. Olmedillo: The transitional does not carry...
Mr. Plummer: It works in reverse.
Mr. Olmedillo: ...over the street, but the potential of creating the rezoning
pressure, it's there.
Mr. Dawkins: Thank you, thank you. That's my...OK.
Mr. O'Donnell: Let me address that, because I can only address one issue at a
time.
Mayor Suarez: Let me catch the wording on that. "The potential for creating
the rezoning pressure."
Mr. O'Donnell: Right. That is, they...
Mayor Suarez: That's all that we're doing, if we approve it?
Mr. O'Donnell: Yes. Yes.
Mayor Suarez: Doesn't sound to me like much. I mean, does it really create a
domino effect just with the potential, whatever it was, the rest of the
wording?
Mr. Dawkins: But if you put the 20 feet there...
Mayor Suarez: We're creating a rezoning pressure.
Mr. Dawkins: ...what does it do, though? If you put the 20 feet there, what
does it do?
Mr. Rodriguez: Let me try to address the Mayor one second, first.
Mr. Dawkins: OK.
Mr. Rodriguez: You see, to change zoning, you have to be either adjacent to
the zoning line, or you have to have a minimum area. By moving the zoning
line to the property line, you are adjacent to it, and the property across the
street can apply and ask for a change of zoning. You have to approve it
anyhow, but, you know, you are doing it.
Mr. O'Donnell: Let me address this, please.
(MIKE FEEDBACK SOUND)
Mr. Pierce: Who's got that mike? Should turn it down.
Mr. O'Donnell: The second point, then, is, by bringing the zoning line back
to make it abutting these properties, we then allow, if they're real small,
and ordinarily couldn't ask for a zone change, we allow them to make an
application before this Commission, which you can turn down. That's all that
they're talking about. Because if it's a large area, whether they abut or
not, they can come in and ask for the same thing. That's the narrow issue.
From our perspective, this could be accomplished by ending the zone line one
foot from Southwest 22nd Terrace, if that's your pleasure, if you're concerned
about allowing that to happen, but...
Mayor Suarez: How about that?
Mr. O'Donnell: And we have... but... but...
Mr. Pierce: Technically, he's correct.
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Mr. Olmedillo: That particular issue would be addressed with the ohe tobt.
Mr. O'Donnell: It would be.
Mr. Ol.medilio: That particular issue.
Mr. Fierce: Yes, it would.
Mr. O'Donnell: And what we have done with our site design and our constraints
in our covenant, is reducing the F.A.R. and allowing good site design. If you
put the line here, you're going to end up with a replication of the lousy site
use and site design you have there now, regardless of how* you zone it. It's
too much of an incursion into this area. So, what we're requesting, to meet
this one issue, of someone could now apply if they had a small lot, whereas
they couldn't otherwise, for zoning, and you probably wouldn't approve it
anyway, but they could, J agree with that, if the zone line goes here. That
can be resolved by ending the zone line, that one foot.
Mr. Dawkins: May J ask you, r-an you show me, Eir, south of Southwest 22nd
Avenue, where there's a small lot? Everything up there is the same lot size.
Mr. O'Donnell: No, they have a minimum requirement from...
Mr. Dawkins: No, no, no, no, no. No, no, no. You said "a small lot." Show
me...
Mayor Suarez: Yeah, south of...
Mr. Dawkins: ...anything south of Southwest 22nd Terrace that's small.
Mayor Suarez: Are those single-family residences there, in single lots - is
that what ... 7
Mr. O'Donnell: No, they're ... most of those are duplex.
Mr. Rodriguez: Duplex.
Mr. Pierce: Duplex.
Mayor Suarez: Duplexes.
Mr. Rodriguez: No, the point ... the point...
Mr. Plummer: They can gather up a number of lots.
Mr. Dawkins (OFF MIKE): I don't want to hear nothing from you.
I don't need you to tell me nothing!
Mr. O'Donnell: No, individual ownerships, Commissioner, are all small lots.
My point is, that ordinarily, without an abutting commercial zoning for any of
those lots, they could not even make an application. All right. To resolve
that, we're saying, end our zone line at the one -foot line, you've ended that
problem. But my other point is, even if we did...
Mr. Dawkins: OK, well, why would you give up one foot and don't want to give
up ten feet?
Mr. O'Donnell: Because when you give up ten feet, you start having
incursions...
Mr. Pierce: Loses F.A.R.
Mr. O'Donnell: ...into the type of building you can put back here. We have
already limited our building height, we've established setbacks that are
comparable to what's there now, of no higher than two...
Mayor Suarez: It affects all your calculations, is what you're saying. On
the amount...
Mr. O'Donnell: And we have reduced our F.A.R. on the front, as well as the
back, so that we maximize our open space everywhere. If you force us back up
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here, you're forcing the same thing that is wrong with this zoning now: it
does not allow proper site design for these properties. It is forcing the
buildings up on Corp) Vey to go up, and to have this sort of open-air parking
in the bock, rather than having a much better site design, with open space and
not open-eir perking on the site.
Mayor Sirare7.: well, we're not really forcing you, we're sort of inducing
you...
Mr. Dawkins: Either, either, either, either I've got to force you to do that,
or I've got to force the neighbors to accept that. So, I'd rather force you,
because I got more votes out of them than I got out of you.
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Mr. O'Donnell.: well, liayor Dpvkins, I think our solution for the neighbors is
better than the solution that's being proposed by the Flanning Department.
Mr. F)ummer: Ve31, Set me interject something.. I think the concern that is
being addressed is, in fact, adequately covered, staff says, by the one foot.
Now, the real truth of .e matter - let's put it on the record. Let's don't
kid each otr,er. If S move i.t. bask 20 foot instead of one foot, you
tremendously drop their F.A.R. That's where they're hurting. Hey, you tell
me no, OK7 You tell me no.
Mr. O'Donnell: Can I respond to that?
Mr. Plummer: No.
Mr. O'Donnell: OK.
(Laughter) —
Mr. Plummer: I think that the concerns of Commissioner Dawkins are legitimate
concerns, and 1 am comfortable by the acknowledgment of staff that what we're
doing with the one foot is the same thing to accomplish that safety valve as
it would be with the 20. OK? So, I'm comfortable on that. I want to tell
you all that as soon as we get through, I'm going to be making a motion before
this Commission to instruct the Planning Department to eliminate completely
transitional uses. OK? I don't know if it will fly, but I'm going to make
that motion.
Mayor Suarez: We certainly have to figure out ways of simplifying the Code.
Otherwise, we're going to be at this forever. Do we have a motion from anyone
with the...
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, my notion I made originally, to approve PZ-7A, with a
20-foot setback - I am comfortable with the one; it accomplishes the same
thing. I will modify my original motion to say a one -foot setback, and
approve the thing as proffered.
Mr. Olmedillo: How about the covenants that have been proffered?
Mr. Plummer: Well, well, of course, with the covenants that have been
presented, which I have in front of me, yes.
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Mr. Dawkins: I'll withdraw my second, because I went along with it for the
20-foot setback; therefore, I could not go with the one, and I withdraw the
second.
Mr. Plummer: All right.
sue:
Mr. Pierce: Covenant goes with eight.
Mrs. Dougherty: PZ-7A, B, and PZ-8 are all the same thing. They've just made
a presentation on all three of them. If you'd like, I'll read all three
ordinances at the same time.
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Mr. Plummer: Well, wait a minute, you don't have a second right now.
Mrs. Dougherty: Sorry. That's premature. j
Mayor Suarez: I second it.
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Mr. Dawkins: Further discussion? Call the roll.
Mr. Plummer: Wait a minute, wait a minute. On PZ-7A, I am to inject in there
that I mean one foot from the...
Mr. Rodriguez: It's one foot with the existing zoning. You're not talking of
exist.ing...
Mr. Plummer: £ram the exiting zoning, yes, sir.
Mr. Rodriguez.: The zoning line for the ch.-nge of zoning will be one foot from
the existing zoning on the street, along the street.
Mrs. Dougherty: Those t.vwo, 7A and B, are the ... both are the comprehensive
plan. You should take a vote on that and I'll read PZ-8 later.
Mr. Dav=kins: Call the roll, Madame Clerk.
AN ORDINANCE ENTITI.ED-
A14 ORDINANCE AMENDING THE MIAMI COMPREHENSIVE
NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN 1976-1986 FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT
APPROXIMATELY 3427-3523 SOUTHWEST 22ND TERRACE (MORE
PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED HEREIN) BY CHANGING THE
DESIGNATION OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FROM LOW -MODERATE
DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO RESTRICTED COMMERCIAL; MAKING
FINDINGS; AND, CONTAINING A REPEALER PROVISION AND A
SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.
Passed on its first reading by title at the meeting of September 25, 1986, was
taken up for its second and final reading by title and adoption. On motion of
Commissioner Plummer, seconded by Mayor Suarez, the ordinance was thereupon
given its second and final reading by title, and passed and adopted by the
following vote, as indicated hereinbelow.
THE ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO. 10168.
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AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE MIAMI COMPREHENSIVE
NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN AND ADDENDA (September 1985) FOR
PROPERTY LOCATED AT APPROXIMATELY 3427-3523 SOUTHWEST
22ND TERRACE (MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED HEREIN) BY
CHANGING THE DESIGNATION OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FROM
LOW -MODERATE DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO COMMERCIAL -
RESIDENTIAL; MAKING FINDINGS; AND, CONTAINING A
REPEALER PROVISION AND A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.
Was introduced by Commissioner Plummer and seconded by Mayor Suarez and
passed on its first reading by title by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: Vice -Mayor Miller J. Dawkins
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
The City Attorney read both ordinances into the public record and
announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commission and
to the public.
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28. SECOND READING ORDINANCE: ZONING ATLAS AMENDMENT AT 3427-3523 SOUTHWEST
22ND TERRACE. (APPLICANT: KAITUMA FROPERTIES, N.V.)
Mayor Suarez: which is the one re have to vote on now?
Mrs. Dougherty: F7-8. Is there a motion and second?
Mr. Plummer: I mpke the motion on eight. That's the one that the covenant
which I hive is-tt.Pchcd.
Mayor Suarez: Fi-£'s been moved, with the covenant?
Mr. Olmedillo: Fxcuse me, may I interject? PZ-7B, moved.
Mr. Plummer: was together.
Mayor Suarez: Together. All right. PZ-8.
Mr. Plummer: I wish you guys would get your PZ's together here.
Mayor Suarez: we have a motion. Do we have a second?
Mrs. Kennedy: Did you move it yet?
Mr. Plummer: Yeah, I moved it.
Mrs. Kennedy: I'll second.
Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded. Any further discussion? Hearing none,
call the roll.
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE ZONING ATLAS OF ORDINANCE
NO. 9500, THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MIAMI,
FLORIDA, BY CHANGING THE ZONING CLASSIFICATION OF
APPROXIMATELY 3427-3523 S.W. 22ND TERRACE, 141AMI,
FLORIDA (MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED HEREIN) FROM RG
1/3 GENERAL RESIDENTIAL (ONE AND TWO-FAMILY) TO CR-3/7
COMMERCIAL -RESIDENTIAL (GENERAL) BY MAKING FINDINGS;
AND BY MAKING ALL THE NECESSARY CHANGES ON PAGE NO.
42 OF SAID ZONING ATLAS MADE A PART OF ORDINANCE NO.
9500 BY REFERENCE AND DESCRIPTION IN ARTICLE 3,
SECTION 300, THEREOF; CONTAINING A REPEALER PROVISION
_. AND A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.
Passed on its first reading by title at the meeting of September 25, 1986, was
taken up for its second and final reading by title and adoption. On motion of
Commissioner Plummer, seconded by Commissioner Kennedy, the ordinance was
thereupon given its second and final reading by title and passed and adopted
by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: Vice -Mayor Miller J. Dawkins
ABSENT: Vice -Mayor Joe Carollo
THE ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO. 10169.
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and
announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commission and
to the public.
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29A. SECOND READING ORDINANCE: AMEND MIAMI COMPREHENSIVE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN
AT 3591 S.F. 22ND TERRACE (AFFLICANT: KAtTFMAN AND ROBERTS).
29B. FIRST READING ORDINANCE: AMEND MIkMI COMPREHENSIVE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN
AT 3591 S.W. 22ND TERRACE (AFFLICANT: KAUFMAN AND ROBERTS).
Mayor Suarez: FZ-9A.
Mr. Ol.medillo: Mr. Mayor.
Mayor. Suarez: Yes.
Mr. Olmedillo: PZ-9A, PZ-9B, and PZ-10 is a repetition of the same thing.
It's on the corner sites, sites 17 and 18, on the west side of the property
you just heard, and the concerns of the Planning Department are exactly the
same: intrusion into the nei.ghborhood....
Mr. Plummer: I got a problem. I got a problem with a covenant. I'm sorry, I
didn't mean to interrupt.
Mr. Olmedillo: The applicant has proffered a covenant with certain
conditions. Still, the Planning Department feels that the zoning line should
not go to the center of the street, but should go to...
Mr. Plummer: One foot.
Mr. Olmedillo: ...minus one foot.
Mr. Plummer: Yeah, agreed.
Mr. Olmedillo: Within the property line.
Mr. Plummer: OK. Is there anybody here to speak against it?
Mayor Suarez: Let the record reflect no one stepped forward. I'll entertain
a motion on whichever portions of this...
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I have a problem with the covenant...
Mayor Suarez: OK.
Mr. Plummer.: ...on Section 2(c). When you start talking about solid masonry
walls, I go back to my original issue. I want a decorative wall, I want
something that is pleasing. Those people on the back side are going to have
to look, and I don't want them to have to look at a concentration camp. Now,
you've got to assure me that this is going to be a...I don't, you know, the
solid, I'll go along with, but it's got to be decorated.
Mr. Al Cardenas: No, I ... may I, for the record - my name is Al Cardenas. I'm
an attorney for the applicant, with offices here in Miami. Our landscaping
plan proposal will incorporate the planting of hedges and vines which will...
Mr. Plummer: I don't buy that, Al. Trees die and they don't replace them.
Mr. Cardenas: We will proffer, verbally, in conjunction with the situation,
and I will proffer, as counsel for the applicant, whatever treatment is wished
for that wall, as an addition to that particular statement.
Mr. Plummer: That's fine. So modify the covenant and I'll move 9A.
Mayor Suarez: Moved.
Mr. Plummer: With the provision of the one -foot...
Mr. Olmedillo: Minus one foot within the...
Mr. Plummer: Minus one foot.
Mr. Olmedillo: ...property line.
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Mr. Plummer: Is that A and B, now, jointly?
Mrs. Dougherty: Decorative approval by the Planning Department. Decorative
approved by the Planning Department?
Mr. Olrnedillo: Decorative, subject to review and approval by the Planning
Department.
Mr. Plummer: Decorative approved by the Planning Department. And did
Tony ... did Tony leave? Tony, I know you just got passed, but I want that same
provision on you guys.
Mr. O'Donnell: You got it.
Mr. Plummer: You hear me?
Mr. O'Donnell: Yes.
Mr. Plummer: A1.1 right. I move 9 - PZ-9A and B.
Mayor Suarez: So moved. Do we have a second? Commissioner?
Mrs. Kennedy: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Seconded. Any discussion? Read the ordinance. Call the roll.
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE MIAMI COMPREHENSIVE
NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN 1976-1986 FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT
APPROXIMATELY 3591 SOUTHWEST 22ND TERRACE (MORE
PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED HEREIN) BY CHANGING THE
DESIGNATION OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FROM LOW -MODERATE
DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO RESTRICTED COMMERCIAL; MAKING
FINDINGS; AND, CONTAINING A REPEALER PROVISION AND A
SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.
Passed on its first reading by title at the meeting of September 25, 1986, was
taken up for its second and final reading by title and adoption. On motion of
Commissioner Plummer, seconded by Commissioner Kennedy, the ordinance was
thereupon given its second and final reading by title and passed and adopted
by the following vote, as indicated hereinbelow.
THE ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO. 10170.
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AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE MIAMI COMPREHENSIVE
NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN AND ADDENDA (SEPTEMBER 1985) FOR
PROPERTY LOCATED AT APPROXIMATELY 3591 SOUTHWEST 22ND
TERRACE (MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED HEREIN) BY
CHANGING THE DESIGNATION OF THE rUBJECT PROPERTY FROM
LOW -MODERATE DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO COMMERCIAL -
RESIDENTIAL; MAKING FINDINGS; AND, CONTAINING A
REPEALER PROVISION AND A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.
Was introduced by Commissioner Plummer and seconded by Commissioner
Kennedy and was passed on its first reading by title by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor Miller J. Dawkins
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
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The City Attorney read both ordinances into the public record and �—
announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commission and
to the public.
NOTE FOR -RECORD:- Atthispoint., on motion duly made by Vice -Mayor Dawkins and
seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the Commission moved to reconsider the award
of meals program issue (SEE LABEL 031).
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30. SECOND READING ORDINANCE: ZONING ATLAS AMENDMENT AT 3591 S.W. 22ND
TERRACE - FROM RG-1/3 TO CR-3/7 (APPLICANT: KAUFMAN AND ROBERTS).
Mrs. Dougherty: 111r. Mayor, could we finish this last item first?
Mr. Plummer: Yes, that's what I'm saying.
Mr. Dawkins: Yeah, um-hmm.
Mayor Suarez: Call the roll.
Mrs. Dougherty: This is PZ-10.
Mayor Suarez: Oh, I'm sorry.
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE ZONING ATLAS OF ORDINANCE
NO. 9500, THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MIAMI,
FLORIDA, BY CHANGING THE ZONING CLASSIFICATION OF
APPROXIMATELY 3591 S.W. 22ND TERRACE, MIAMI, FLORIDA,
(MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED HEREIN) FROM RG-1/3
GENERAL RESIDENTIAL (ONE AND TWO-FAMILY) TO CR-3/7
COMMERCIAL -RESIDENTIAL (GENERAL) BY MAKING FINDINGS;
AND BY MAKING ALL THE NECESSARY CHANGES ON PAGE NO. 42
OF SAID ZONING ATLAS MADE A PART OF ORDINANCE NO. 9500
BY REFERENCE AND DESCRIPTION IN ARTICLE 3, SECTION
300, THEREOF; CONTAINING A REPEALER PROVISION AND A
SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.
Passed on its first reading by title at the meeting of September 25, 1986, was
taken up for its second and final reading by title and adoption. On motion of
Commissioner Plummer, seconded by Commissioner Kennedy, the ordinance was
thereupon given its second and final reading by title and passed and adopted
by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor Miller J. Dawkins
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
THE ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO. 10171.
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and
announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commission and _
to the public.
ON ROLL CALL:
Mr. Dawkins: Are you going to ... you got the same one foot limit on this?
Mr. Plummer: Yes.
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31. AGREE TO RECONSIDER, AT NEXT COMMISSION MEETING, ISSUE CONCERNING BID
AWARD FOR PROVIDING MEALS TO DAY CARE AND PRESCHOOL PROGRAMS.
Mayor Suarez: OK, I ;orget the number of the item, but whatever it was.
Mr. Plummer: FZ-ll.
Mr. Frank Scruggs! Commissioners, we appreciate...
Mayor Suarez: We've got a motion and a second to reconsider, and a second.
Let's...I'm going to defer to my colleagues, and vote with them. I don't
intend to change my vote on it, but go ahead, call the roll on the motion for
re...
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, with the understanding, we will reconsider it at the
end of the Agenda. We're not going to make these other people wait.
Mr. Dawkins: OK.
Mayor Suarez: OK, we're only going to move, at this point, to reconsider, so
you know that we will take it up at the end of the Agenda. Moved and
seconded. Any discussion? Call the roll.
Ms. Hirai: Roll call. Mr. Plummer?
Mr. Plummer: Yes.
Ms. Hirai: Ms. Kennedy?
Mrs. Kennedy: Yes.
Ms. Hirai: Mr. Dawkins?
Mr. Dawkins: Yes.
Ms. Hirai: Mayor Suarez?
Mr. Plummer: Do we have all parties...
Mayor Suarez: Yes.
Mr. Plummer: here concerned, of the other side?
Mayor Suarez: Probably not. That's another...
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Eads?
Mayor Suarez: ...problem we have.
Mr. Plummer: Do we have all of the parties from the other side of the issue?
Because I don't think it's fair that one should...
Mr. Dawkins: Call...call them first.
Mayor Suarez: Although to, to just...
Mr. Scruggs: Well, if the matter, Mr. Mayor and Mr. Commissioner, could be
deferred for reconsideration at another time, so we could bring in the
additional information, and the other side could be present, that would be
sufficient relief for us at this time.
Mayor Suarez: Wait, I have no problem if what you're going to do is introduce
additional evidence, and not expect any change of vote from me in your doing
that, to preserve the record today. I don't know if the City Attorney feels
that that would create any unfair burden on the...
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Mrs. Dougherty: I think that what Mr. Scruggs is suggesting is a good one:
that you vote to reconsider it today, and set it for another time to have a
full hearing on it.
Mr. Scruggs: That would be perfectly satisfactory to us. We hope the
Commission will. do that. We could come in later with the additional
inf.ormat ion.
Mr. Plummer: Well, you know, hey, I want to give you the right to have the
additional. information. But yet, I think that other party, who is, by the
previous motion, now the successful bidder, should have the right to argue
against it. And they're not here.
Mr. Scruggs: We want to appear when they're here, at a later time. They can
continue to serve under the preexisting contract. We'll have a chance to come
back with additional information.
Mr. Plummer: That's right, they are the preexisting, right?
Mr. Scruggs: And relieve our client of the taint associated with the previous
vote.
Mr. Plummer: OK, all right.
Mr. Scruggs: That's more important to us.
Mr. Plummer: I understand what you're saying. But let me tell you, In th(I
interim - you're saying at another Commission meeting.
Mr. Scruggs: That's correct.
Mr. Plummer: OK.
Mr. Scruggs: They could continue to serve.
Mr. Plummer: In the interim, I want an answer from the State of Florida.
Mrs. Kennedy: Right. And that will give you plenty of time.
Mr. Plummer: OK? I want to know from the State of Florida, that if Dietcraft
is chosen, are they going to fund or not fund the City of Miami. I mean, I
want a clear-cut yes or no. I don't want a fourteen -page letter.
Mr. Jack Eads: Yes, sir.
Mr. Plummer: OK?
Mr. Scruggs: If that is the action of the Commission.
Mayor Suarez: It's a motion to reconsider, but not accept any more evidence
today, or otherwise...to reconsider at the next Commission hearing, is what it
comes down to.
Mr. Eads: Yes, sir, this... we have...
Mayor Suarez: And in the meantime, they understand that the existing contract
holders will continue providing service.
Mr. Eads: And that, of course, would be subject to the approval of the State.
They've given us a one -month extension, through the 31st. We'll try to get
that extended to the November...
Mr. Plummer: November 14th.
Mr. Eads: ...13th.
Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded. Any discussion? Call the roll.
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October 23, 1986
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Dawkins, who moved
its adoption:
MOTION NO. 86-861
A MOTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION AGREEING TO RECONSIDER, AT
THE NEXT COMMISSION MEETING THE_ ISSUE COIJCERNING AID AWARD
FOR FROVJDJ?,T(-- FFALS TO FARTJCJFANTS JN THE CITY'S DAY
CARE AND FRFSC1400L FROGR.AMS, SUBJECT TO THE STATE OF
FLORIDA AL.L.OWJNG THE FRESENT COIJTRACT HOLDER TO CONTINUE
RENDFRI)IG SAID SFRVTCF. FOR 017 MORE MONTH.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following votp-
AYES: Commissi.onpr J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor Miller J. Dawkins
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Mr. Scruggs: Thank you very much.
Mayor Suarez: That's one of the greatest comebacks in the history of this
Commission. Geesh.
32. SECOND READING ORDINANCE: ORDINANCE 9500 ATLAS CHANGE AT APPROXIMATELY
2564-2574 S.W. 27TH LANE, FROM RS-2/2 TO RO-1/4 (APPLICANT: NANCYE
MOYNAHAN, ET AL.)
Mayor Suarez: PZ...
Mr. Olmedillo: PZ-11.
Mayor Suarez: Eleven.
Mr. Olmedillo: Yes, this is a request for a zoning change from a single-
family RS-2/2 to an RO-1/4. This is a second reading. This is part of the
27th Avenue study, and this property is located on Dixie Highway. It's
exposed to the traffic noise. It abuts a similar zoning district, and is...
Mayor Suarez: Is there anyone here to oppose the granting of PZ-11, on second
reading?
Mr. Plummer: Move it.
Mrs. Kennedy: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Let the record reflect that no one stepped forward. Moved and
seconded. Any discussion? Call the roll. PZ-11.
Mr. Plummer: Read the ordinance.
Mayor Suarez: Read the ordinance first, thank you.
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE ZONING ATLAS OF ORDINANCE
NO. 9500, THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MIAMI,
FLORIDA, BY CHANGING THE 7.ONING CLASSIFICATION OF
APPROXIMATFLY 25Eh-25714 SOiT?'HVT..ST 27Ti7 LANE. MIAMI,
FLORIDA, 0 OFT FART7Ci"7.AR.LY DESCRIBED TiFFIFIN) FPOM RS-
2/2 ONF_TAll, ILY 7)FTACIiT I) F.FST77FNTI1i7. TO PO-1 /4
RESIDFNTIAT..-OFFIC:F, Fy MAK7NC= F7ND71J(S; f0JI) BY MAKING
ALL THE 7,°�;CFSSARY CFWJG=FS OIJ PAGE NO. 43 OF SAID
ZONING A7'I,AS MAF7F A FART OF ORD7NA►JCF NO, 9500 BY
REFERENCE AND DFSCR7FTI0N IN ARTICLE 3, SFCTIONT 300,
THERFOF; CONTAINIIJG A PF.FFALFF FROVIS1014 AND A
SEVFnFIARIIli TY CLAUSE..
Passed on its first reading by title at the meeting of July 24, 1986, was
taken up for its second find final reading by title and adoption. On motion of
Commissioner Flummer, seconded by Commissioner Kennedy, the ordinance was
thereupon given its second and final reading by title and passed and adopted
by the following vot.e-
AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor Miller J. Dawkins
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
THE ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO. 10172.
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and
announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commission and
to the public.
33. SECOND READING ORDINANCE: ORDINANCE 9500 ATLAS CHANGE AT APPROXIMATELY
1544-1636 BRICKELL AVENUE, FROM RG-2.1/3.3 TO RG-2.1/5 MAINTAINING SPI-4
BRICKELL AREA MAJOR STREETS OVERLAY DISTRICT.
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Mayor Suarez: PZ-12.
Mr. Olmedillo: PZ-12. The request is for a change in intensity of sector,
from a 3.3, which is a .4 F.A.R., to a sector 5, which is a .75 F.A.R. As you
remember, this item, we had reversed our position, because the applicant had
come prior to the meeting, with a covenant addressing all the concerns, and he
was delayed until later. You saw the covenant that they had proffered, and
the Planning Department is recommending approval at this time. The location
is between Brickell and South Miami Avenue, and the main concern was, the
intensity may affect the property fronting on South Miami Avenue. However, as
I stated before, the covenant states for a buffer to be placed within the two
areas. There is a 20-foot alley in the back of the property; there is going
to be a 45-foot height limitation to the building, and the landscaping plans
should be approved by the Planning Department.
Mr. Plummer: That's fine. But you know, let me tell you, when people in the
history books pick up this agenda, and all they're going to see on here is,
the Planning Department recommended denial. Now, why wasn't, between the
first application and the second application, that changed?
Mr. Olmedillo: The change in recommendation was introduced on the record,
sir, and the packets for the record. Not in this packet.
Mr. Plummer: I'm saying to you, this agenda should have been changed to say
that you recommend approval.
Mr. Pierce: Mr. Plummer, you're absolutely right. In the future we will.
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Mr. Plummer: If I pick up ten years from today, and I look at this Agenda,
I'm going to say, "why did I vote against the Planning Department?"
Mayor Suarez: would you ... I'll entertain a motion to...
Mr. Plummer: Not becFuse Sergio is a bad guy.
Mayor Sucre..: I'Il entertain a motion to change the way the agenda reads and
reflect the correct recommendation.
Mr. Plummer: I so move.
Mayor. Suarez: So moved.
Mrs. Kennedy: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Seconded. Any discussion? Call the roll on the retroactive
change on what the Agenda read.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved
its adoption:
MOTION NO. 86-862
A MOTION DIRECTING THE ADMIIJISTRATION AND THE CITY CLERK
TO CORRECT TODAY'S PRINTED AGENDA TO READ THAT THE
PLANNING DEPARTMENT RECOMMENDED "APPROVAL" IN ITEM PZ-12.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Kennedy, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor Miller J. Dawkins
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOBS: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Mr. Plummer: Now let's hear the issue.
Mayor Suarez: Well?
Mr. Plummer: What has...we don't have a covenant on this, right?
Mr. O'Donnell: Yes, we do, Mr... at the last hearing...
Mrs. Kennedy: What is it?
Mr. Plummer: Oh, yes, you...
Mr. O'Donnell: ...you asked for the revisions and that's why we're back, and
those are...
Mr. Plummer: And what are you proffering in that covenant for the City?
Mr. O'Donnell: We're proffering an addition to the buffering; we're
proffering for two of the parcels, $15,000 for neighborhood parks for each
parcel, and for the smaller parcel, $5,000, for neighborhood parks in the
vicinity, to be determined by the City.
Mr. Plummer: I move PZ-12.
Mayor Suarez: So moved.
Mr. Plummer: Excuse me. Let the record reflect that no one came forth to
speak in opposition.
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Mayor Suarez: Thank you. PZ-12 is moved. Do I hear a second? Will it die
for lack of interest? Sorry. Second PZ-12.
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Mr. Dawkins: Any further discussion? Call the roll.
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE ZONING ATLAS OF ORDINANCE
NO. 9500, THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MIAMI,
FLORIDA, BY CHANGING THE ZONING CLASSIFICATION OF
APPROXIMATELY 15ug-1636 BRICKELL AVENUE, MIAMI,
FLORIDA, (MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED HEREIN) FROM RG-
2. 1/3.3 GENTTRAT, RFSIPFIJTIAL TO PG-2. 1 /5 GENERAL
RESIDENTIAL MAINTAINING THE SPI-4 BRICK.FLL AREA MAJOR
STREETS OVERLAY DISTRICT, BY I,AKING FINDINGS; AND BY
MAKING ALL THE NECESSARY CHANGES 014 PAGE 140. 37 OF
SAID ZONING ATLAS MADE A PART OF ORDINANCE 110. 9500 BY
REFERENCE A14D DESCRIPTION IN ARTICLE 3, SECTION 300,
THEREOF; C014TAINIIIIG A REPEALER PROVISION AND A
SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.
Passed on its first reading by title at the meeting of September 25, 1986, was
taken up for its second and final reading by title and adoption. On motion of
Commissioner. Plummer, seconded by Mayor Suarez, the Ordinance was thereupon
given its second and final reading by title and passed and adopted by the
following vote -
AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor Miller J. Dawkins
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
THE ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO. 10173.
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and
announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commission and
to the public.
34. SECOND READING ORDINANCE: ORDINANCE 9500 TEXT AMENDMENT - AMEND SECTION
3205, ARTICLE 32 BY PROVIDING THAT PERSONS AGGRIEVED BY LAND DECISIONS
MAY FILE APPEAL.
Mayor Suarez: PZ-13.
Mr. O'Donnell: Thank you very much.
Mayor Suarez: Thank you, Tony.
Mr. Plummer: I move 13.
Mayor Suarez: Moved.
Mrs. Kennedy: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Seconded. Any discussion of PZ-13? Anyone here to oppose the
application contained in PZ-13.
Mr. Plummer: Read the ordinance.
Mayor Suarez: Read the ordinance.
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AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE NO. 9500, THE ZONING
ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA, BY AMENDING
SECTION 3205 OF ARTICLE 32 ENTITLED "STATUS OF
DECISIONS OF F.OIJNC-' FGARDS; RF17IEW BY CITY COMMISSION;
COMMISSIO►,z FOVTFPS; 3tTI?IC1A1_, REVIEW,` BY REQUIRING
EXHAUSTION OF AT)143NIFTFIttTIN'F FTJ'FPTFS FRIOR TO
JUDICIAL, F.FVjTV A?:'P TPOIN71P711(77 THAT T'HF METHOD OF
JUDICIAL RFPJFV OF CITY COMP,T SFION DECISIONS SHALL BE
BY FILING A I,TOTICF OF AFT'F.A3,; CONTATNTNG A REPEALER
PROVISION AND A STVFF-A.PII.ITY CLAiaSF.
Passed on its first reading by title at the meeting of September 25, 1986, was
taken up for its second and final reading by title and adoption. On motion of
Commissioner Plummer, seconded by Commissioner Kennedy, the ordinance was
thereupon given its second and final reading by title and passed and adopted
by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor Miller J. Dawkins
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner. Joe Carollo
THE ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO. 10174.
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and
announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commission and
to the public.
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35. FIRST READING ORDINANCE: AMEND ORDINANCE 9500, ARTICLE 30, SECTION
3004 - DESIGNATE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARDS ADMINISTRATION AS THE AGENCY
TO SET DATE FOR HEARING OF AN APPEAL.
Mayor Suarez: PZ-14.
Mr. Plummer: Move it.
Mrs. Kennedy: PZ-14.
Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded. Any discussion? Call the roll on 14. _
Read the ordinance first.
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE NO. 9500, AS AMENDED,
THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, ARTICLE 30,
APPEALS FROM DECISIONS OF ZONING ADMINISTRATOR AND
DIRECTOR OF THE DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING, BY AMENDING
SECTION 3004 OF SAID ARTICLE, ENTITLED, "SETTING
HEARING DATES; NOTICE", TO DESIGNATE THE DEPARTMENT OF
PLANNING AND ZONING BOARDS ADMINISTRATION, RATHER THAN
THE ZONING BOARD, AS THE AGENCY TO SET THE DATE FOR t
THE HEARING OF AN APPEAL FROM DEECISIONS OF THE ZONING
ADMINISTRATOR AND DECISIONS OF THE DIRECTOR OF THE
DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING.
Was introduced by Commissioner Plummer and seconded by Commissioner
Kennedy and was passed on its first reading by title by the following vote-
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AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor Miller J. Dawkins
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and
announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commission and
to the public.
36. DENY APPEAL BY OBJECTOR: REVIEW SPECIAL EXCEPTION BY ZONING BOARD
REGARDING PAN MMERICAN HOSPITAL.
Mayor Suarez: PZ-15.
Mr. Olmedillo: PZ-15, it's an appeal, and at the meeting of September 25th,
the City Commission, you requested a deferral on the action, so that the
applicant for the appeal - the appellant - would meet with Commissioner
Carollo, I think was one of the people who wanted to meet her, and I suspect
the applicant, the appellant, should make a presentation now, at this point.
Mr. Plummer: What the hell is this?
Mr. Pierc,.: A model.
Mr. Plummer: Oh. Thought we were going to play a game of solitaire.
Mayor Suarez: Quiet.
Ms. Yolanda Lezcano (SPEAKING IN SPANISH, TRANSLATED BY MR. A. E. PEREZ-
LUGONES): Good evening. Her name is Yolanda Lezcano. She lives at 171
Northwest 60th Street. And she's been here several times in opposition to the
project that Pan American Hospital wants to build. But I want you to give me
the opportunity, if it is possible, to postpone this issue until there is a
full Commission.
Mr. Plummer: (Laughing) Who the hell's been advising her?
(Laughter)
Mr. Pierce: That's only a request. It's not legally required.
Mayor Suarez: Go ahead, proceed.
Ms. Lezcano (Mr. Perez-Lugones): If this is possible, because Commissioner
Carollo is missing, and he was the one who requested that this item be
deferred to this time.
Mayor Suarez: See, that's the problem. See, he asked for it to be deferred
to today, so now...
Mr. Plummer: I remember her standing at that microphone a while back, saying
that "I'm just a little housewife that don't know too much." Whew, has she
learned in a hurry.
Mrs. Kennedy: You know, the problem I'm seeing, I'm one who's always voted
for a deferral, but we asked Commission Carollo before he left if he wanted to
defer any items, didn't you, Mr. Mayor?
Mayor Suarez: I'm sorry?
Mrs. Kennedy: Didn't you ask the Commissioner Carollo before he left if he
had wanted to pull out any items?
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Mayor Suarez: I think the record would reflect that I did ask him that. I
don't believe he's asked...
Mrs. Kennedy: And he said no.
Mayor Suarez: ...for this matter to be deferred, but...
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, here again, let me, the old man on the Commission, of
1.7 years. Mr. Mayor, it has always been two unwritten rules for this
Commission. Sorry to tell you that.. The two unwritten rules: one deferment
whenever any Commissioner has ever asked for more facts, and one deferment for
anyone asking for a full board.
Mayor Suarez: You could have been here for 60 years on those unwritten rules,
you're not going to get those by me.
Mr. Plummer: OK, I'm saying, -Tou know...
Mayor Suarez: In any other circumstances - certainly not in this one, when a
Commissioner asked for the matter to be postponed till today and he's not
here. I mean, it's...
Mr. Dawkins: And she demanded a full board.
Mayor Suarez: And she ... last time, she wanted us to vote on it.
Mrs. Kennedy: Yeah.
Mr. Dawkins: Uh-huh.
Mr. Plummer: Weil...
Mayor Suarez: When he was here.
Mr. Dawkins: But that's her privilege. If she wants a full board, there's
nothing you can do.
Mayor Suarez: I'm not voting with it, I mean, you know, if anybody wants to
move that, you can move it all you want. You could've been here 60 years, as
far as I'm concerned.
Mr. Plummer: Well, no, I ... Mr. Mayor, I will move it, whether or not I
prevail or not, I will move that this matter... that the applicant, in this
particular case, is entitled to a full board. And I so move.
Mayor Suarez: You have a right to move it. -
Mr. Plummer: So moved. (FIVE -SECOND SILENCE) Boy, there was a silence.
Mayor Suarez: For the moment, at least, until we see if we have a second on
the motion, you can proceed.
Mr. Dawkins: No - tell her what's happening, because she's...
(Mr. Perez-Lugones explained the above proceedings to Ms. Lezcano in Spanish.)
Mayor Suarez: And I'm getting a further indic...
Mr. Plummer: I waive consecutive translation.
Mayor Suarez: And I'm getting a further indication from Commissioner
Carollo's aide that he did not ask for this item, and he does not want
necessarily this item to be deferred.
(Mr. Perez-Lugones translated the above statement to Ms. Lezcano in Spanish.)
Mr. Dawkins: But he, see, but that's not the question. OK, may I ask, and
you translate for me.
Mayor Suarez: Yeah, that doesn't have anything to do with her request, that
we not consider it because a Commissioner is missing, that's true.
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Mr. Dawkins: Madame City Attorney. I don't think it would change the vote
any either way, this time or next time. But in the event that this lady asks
for a full Commission, and we do not grant the full Commission, and she
decides to go to court - what?
Mrs. Dougherty: Commissioner, you have a quorum here, and that's all she's
entitled to.
Mr. Dawkins: OY., that's all I need to know. That's all I need to know.
Mayor Suarez: Proceed,
Mr. Plummer: You're declaring my motion dead for the record?
Mayor Suarez,: ror the moment, yes. I mean, unless somebody seconds it. For
the moment it. is deed. I mean...
Mr. Pere-.-Lugones: Let. me explain to her that ... (Mr. Perez-Lugones translated
the above proceedings into Spanish for Ms. Lezcano).
Mayor Suarez: You can proceed with arguments on either... on anything. You
can say whatever you want.
(Mr. Perez-Lugones explained the above proceedings to Ms. Lezcano in Spanish)
Mayor Suarez: We're going to decide the case, ma'am. It seems like.
(Mr. Perez-Lugones translated Mayor Suarez's comment to Ms. Lezcano)
Ms. Lezcano (Mr. Perez-Lugones): She would like Mr. Carollo to be present,
because Mr. Carollo had a meeting with them on Tuesday, and Mr. Carollo told
her personally that he had voted the last time in favor of this; but he had
realized that nothing that they had said was going to be realized - was going
to be accomplished. And she wanted him to be present because he had expressed
to her that he was going to be in her favor, because this was an injustice,
what has been done with this neighborhood. That this is to destroy a
neighborhood.
Mayor Suarez: He said that what he voted for last time was unjust.
Ms. Lezcano (Mr. Perez-Lugones): He had found that it was not the correct
thing to do, that he wanted to be present.
Mrs. Kennedy: Ask her if he wanted to be present, why didn't he ask us to
defer this item for another time?
(Mr. Perez-Lugones began to ask Ms. Lezcano the question in Spanish.)
Mayor Suarez: She can't be expected to know that. She can't be expected -
explain that to her, she can't be expected to know that.
(Mr. Perez-Lugones explained the above to Ms. Lezcano in Spanish.)
Mayor Suarez: You have to make your presentation now. The Commission wants
to hear this item, so just tell us what you think about the proposal, ma'am.
Mr. Plummer: Well, let me just make it, because some people don't understand,
and I think what we need to understand, that what has been requested by the
applicant, the hospital, is to grant another one-year extension, is that
correct?
Mr. Perez-Lugones: No, the applicant is her.
Mr. Plummer: No, no, the hospital. They were granted approval prior, with a
one-year time,...
Mr. Perez-Lugones: No.
Mr. Plummer: ...and that time ran out.
Mr. Perez-Lugones: No.
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Mr. Plummer: No?
Mr. Perez-Lugones: They went ... prior to this, they went for the zoning
change, which was granted.
Mr. Plummer: OY., so then I don't understand it.
Mr, rPYF-7-l•1T90nes: They went for the zoning change, which was granted.
Recently, they came pnd requested special exception to have an office and
medical fpcilities rt the location where the zoning change happened. This
application was granted by the Zoning Board, and appealed by an objector.
Mr. Plummer: So this has nothing, really, to do, then, with the initial
application, which was pFssed.
Mr. Perez-LugoneF: That's correct.
Mr. Plummer: What is now before us is a second request for a major use
permit.
Mr. Perez--Lugones: No, it's a special exception.
Mr. Plummer: Special exception permit, on the area that was previously
rezoned.
Mr. Perez-Lugones: Correct. _
Mr. Plummer: That was approved by the Zoning Board.
Mr. Perez-Lugones: Correct.
Mr. Plu-comer: And she is appealing that decision for the special exception.
Mr. Perez-Lugones: Correct.
Mr. Plummer: OK, then I stand corrected. Thank you.
Mayor Suarez: Proceed. Whatever you want to say about the proposal.
Mr. Dawkins: Nothing, but she just doesn't like it, and unhappy with it.
Ms. Lezcano (Mr. Perez-Lugones): She would like to...
(Mayor Suarez explained in Spanish to Ms. Lezcano)
Ms. Lezcano (Mr. Perez-Lugones): You better than anybody knows that she is
against this proposal, because you, yourself, had sent a special person when
Mr. Ferre went to make fun of us.
Mayor Suarez: I don't want to tell you how to make your argument. Really,
you should talk about the project and not talk about, you know, former Mayors
or Commissioners who are not here. Just tell us why you are opposed to this
thing.
Ms. Lezcano (Mr. Perez-Lugones): They oppose the project because, you know,
all that it can bring to us, all the consequences it would be, to destroy a
neighborhood, just to place there for medical offices. They are in
opposition, and she brought copies of 157 signatures of persons who are in
opposition to this project. And I want you to tell me how many persons are in
favor of this project, because all these persons work at Pan American
Hospital, and if they don't come over here, tomorrow morning they may be
without a job.
Mrs. Kennedy: Are there any people opposing this project in this audience?
Mayor Suarez: The Commissioner wants to know if there's anyone else here that
is opposed, then we have a show of hands over there. Yes.
Ms. Lezcano (Mr. Perez-Lugones): Ask from them if they have received this
i letter, to see if they have. Mr. Suarez, you told her that you were in
opposition to this...
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Mayor Suarez: I don't know what it is yet. You haven't said it.
Ms. Lezcano (Mr. Perez-Lugones): You were in opposition to this project at
the door of your office, and I have a witness that you told me that you were
in opposition to those zoning changes which were unnecessary. Now, if you
have changed your opinion because of other matters. that is your personal
prerogative but you told me three times in front of your door, and you told
her that you were going to be at their side, and that you had very nice
memories of...
Mayor Suarez: Of all the things that you said, the one thing I remember that
is definitely true - I'm not saying the rest is not, just for the record - is
that I did do very well in that area, and that I do have very good
remembrances of my voting turnout in that area. That's certainly the case.
Mr. Plummer: That.'- in the past..
Mayor Suarez: Of course, that was the last time around. You never know next
time.
Ms. Lezcano (Mr. rerez-Lugones): But Mr. Suarez, I'll tell you, that you were
elected saying that you were going to be the Mayor of the people, but she
believes that you have changed and that you are the Mayor of the millionaires.
Mr. Plummer: The Mayor of what?
Mr. Perez-Lugones: Of the millionaires. Of the millionaires.
Mrs. Kennedy: Of the millionaires - not of the people.
Mr. Plummer: O000000000.
Ms. Lezcano (Mr. Perez-Lugones): Because I see that you are changing your
opinion, since January 8th to the 14th of this month, when she went to see
you. You told her - she said that you told her that you were afraid. Don't
you remember that?
Mayor Suarez: No, really, we can have this any time you want. You know, we
can have this debate with the media present, or without the media present with
as many people as you want. We can have it at Flagami, you can have it
anywhere you want, but you really should address the issue of this application
here.
Ms. Lezcano: (As translated by Mr. Perez-Lugones) She doesn't know how many
times she explained that to you.
Mayor Suarez: Let me explain to her in Spanish that... just so everybody
knows that doesn't speak Spanish, that basically, you are going to have to
insert certain things into the record to make your objections formally. You
don't know how the Commission is going to vote, and you ought to do that.
(COMMENTS IN SPANISH)
Ms. Lezcano: (As translated by Mr. Perez-Lugones) I really like to think the
Commission is going to vote on this.
Mayor Suarez: Do you want to say anything about the project?
Ms. Lezcano: (As translated by Mr. Perez-Lugones) .... in our neighborhood,
with the traffic, they don't have enough parking. It is unnecessary, and they
have not asked that they bring a tow truck to take the cars from in front of
their houses. They haven't asked for a traffic light that they want to place
there. This is going to bring a number of consequences to the neighborhood,
and you know that.
Mayor Suarez: On the issue of the traffic lights, I remember you stating that
there would be a total of three traffic lights in front of the hospital.
Ms. Lezcano: (COMMENTS IN SPANISH)
Mayor Suarez:
straight.
a.
Wait, let him translate it so we can try to get that issue
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October 23, 1986
Mr. Perez-Lugones: (COMMENTS IN SPANISH)
Ms. Lezcano: (COMMENTS IN SPANISH)
Mr. Perez-Lugones: No. there is one on 57th, one on 58th, and one that is
projected to the place, between 54th and 60th which makes...
Mayor Suarez: So that is what you said, right?
Ms. Lezcano: (As translated by Mr. Ferez-Lugones) That will be the...
Mayor Suarez: So that is what you said. That is what concerned you, right?
Ms. Lezcano: (As translated by Mr. Ferez-Lugones)... in the middle of the
street, so doctors can go back and forth, and then that light is going to be
paid by the City, neighborhood and contributors. That, is unnecessary.
Mayor Suarez: Let me clarify, that is an interesting point. Who does pay for
that traffic light? We are going to clarify one point for you. Do you want
to state it on the record, Counselor?
Mr. Al Cardenas: Mayor, for the record, my name is Al Cardenas, I am here on
behalf, I guess, of the appellee in this particular matter. Our covenant is
very precise on that. It says that if the County, Dade County, does not pay
for the traffic light, we will pay for it in total, and not... there will be
no City of Miami funds involved.
Mayor Suarez: (COMMENTS IN SPANISH)
Ms. Lezcano: (As translated by Mr. Perez-Lugones) That is something that is
going to be detrimental. It isn't going to help them.
Mayor Suarez: Proceed.
Ms. Lezcano: (As translated by Mr. Perez-Lugones) The tow truck - why do they
need a tow truck to tow the cars that are parked in front of their houses? -
to get into problems with the people who would be parking in front of their
houses, maybe somebody would get there with their mother dying.
Mayor Suarez: That is a very good point. Why does the City propose that as
part of the covenant? How does that benefit anybody? I don't understand that.
Can anybody answer that for me?... on the towing and all of that? How does
that benefit the neighborhood?
Mr. Cardenas: Mayor, I can answer that now, or I can wait until she is
finished, because I was going to cover, very quickly the background of what is
contained in the special exception resolution.
Mayor Suarez: Can you just answer that question very quickly, while she is
mentioning what...
f Mr. Cardenas: Yes, the issue came up during the special exception hearings,
and incidentally, we had three of them before the Zoning Board. The issue
came up that they... of concern over the traffic and the parking, and the
Zoning Board asked us to see to it that a number of things took place. This
happened during the first hearing, and then during the second hearing. The
' final product, on the third hearing, to make a long story short is that we
a came up with a new parking plan on the hospital. It has nothing to do,
r really, with our application, because it is the property across the street;
but to accommodate the concerns of the three or four neighbors who have been
showing up to the hearings, and we came up with 67 additional parking spaces
t that were not there previously at the hospital, to alleviate that issue, which
really wasn't an issue with our property, because we met the code in that
situation. The second issue that was brought up was traffic, and a member of
the Zoning Board, at that time commenced the discussion that perhaps a traffic
+' signal would be appropriate, and they said if such was found to be
appropriate, and of course Dade County has to make that decision ultimately,
would we pay for it? - and we said, yes, we would, if we have to. In other
3 words, if Dade County in its own volition did not do it, we would pay for it;
and furthermore, that we would voluntarily initiate the efforts to see to it
that Dade County approved the traffic light, and based on that situation, when
the motion was drafted by the motion maker at the Zoning Board, it included
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that requirement, and we accepted it, and that his how we got here with it.
To me, and the third issue was the tow truck, and members complained...
Mayor Suarez: That was the only one I was interested in right now, but you
made a t.hird...
Mr. Cardenas: That is right, I am sorry, Mayor.
Mayor. Suarez: ... and was hoping I'd forget it or something.
Mr. Cardenas: I am sorry. The third was the tow truck, which was dealt with
in a similar treatment, and the question was, well sometimes in the past we
have had people park in our front lac#•ns that either were visiting or working
at the hospital, end we said we were going to remedy that. with 67 parking
spaces, but if you want to, we will have a 24 hour tow truck service, and a
number you can call 24 hours a day, and if you call that number, somebody will
be out there in no time to remove that car in front. of your lawn, you are not
to suffer through those consequences, and again, that was part of the motion
that was adopted on '.`_)at basis.
Mayor Suarez: You just reminded me of snother point. You also raised the
point in a meeting we had abort the number of parking spaces at the hospital
and the fact that. you were not able to verify how many were there. Do you
want to translate that for me?
Mr. Perez-Lugones: COMMENTS IN SPANISH.
Ms. Lezcano: (As translated by Mr. Perez-Lugones) She is saying that you were
going to verify that.
Mayor Suarez: No, I said that I was going to send one of my aides with you to
make sure that you were allowed to verify it.
Mr. Perez-Lugones: (COMMENTS IN SPANISH)
Mayor Suarez: Were you able to verify how many parking spaces they have over
there?
Mr. Perez-Lugones: (COMMENTS IN SPANISH)
Ms. Lezcano: (as translated by Mr. Perez-Lugones) That person you tried to
send never arrived.
Mayor Suarez: Apparently you never called him, but it doesn't matter. Do you
have the number of parking spaces over there that you claim you have, Al?
Will you state that for the record, Guillermo?
Mr. Olmedillo: If I may address that, Mr. Mayor, the applicant has not
submitted any real parking plan for the hospital. They have presented us an
option to rearrange the parking area, and they claim that they can add
approximately 60 parking spaces to the present hospital parking lot.
Mayor Suarez: Do you think that they can?
Mr. Cardenas: Mr. Mayor, if I may, I am submitting a plan, which is part of
the record, which indicates a parking layout, indicates a number of parking
spaces, and we are committed to restructure the parking facilities to comply
with the plan that is before you, and...
Mr. Olmedillo: Again, if I may address it, the parking lot, the sign has to
be reviewed by our zoning people, because there are certain things, certain
criteria they have to meet that at first sight, they didn't meet, the meeting
that we had, that is why we never had an official submission of the plan.
Mr. Plummer: But, that is not tied to this application.
Mayor Suarez: Yes, that is a good question, it is not tied to this
application.
Ms. Lezcano: (As translated by Mr. Perez-Lugones) Mr. Al Cardenas said at
this hearing that the St. Dominic church was going to provide 100, 150
parking spaces, because they understood they were lacking parking. They said
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that they were going to produce 67 parking at the Pan-American Hospital. A
question that I am going to ask you, is Fan -American Hospital was on sale? If
they build the doctor-s offices across the street, and the FAn-American
changes hands, where Pre the people going to be parking? Ve are not going to
be parking those people who ....from the 67 parking spaces on the other side.
Are they going to be parking in front of my hcupe-, nd the 170 parking spaces
that St.. Dominic was going to give them. we would live to see the contract.
I have here the three letters from St. Dom.iric where they deny everything from
Mr. Cardenas. Here is where we c_an see that have bEen lying from the
beginning, everything that begins with a lie and .1 will leave this to
your conscience if you want, to destroy my It. is in your hands. Go,
destroying neighborhood by neighborhood, but the voters are going to go to Key
West. Voters of Miami will have to go to Key Vest, from what I see, they
don't have any backing in this Commission. The only person who voted no, to
this project. was fir. Flummer. Miller Dawkins, that day he was sick, he
couldn't be here. Fir. Carollo now, he is saying that what he did is not
correct, that- he wants to have an opportunity, and now let's wait. so that you
can at least.... like a neighbor who said that she was waiting that Xavier
Suarez wouldn't leave the.... You can do whatever you want.! (summarizing)
Mayor. Suarez: That is a pretty fair., liberal translation! But, you know, if
you follow all of your logic, and I don't think any of this is related to the
project in this particular point, Miami is going to be left without any of the
little people, and only left with millionaires! It is going to make our job a
lot easier, you know, because they are going to have so much money to pay in
taxes and so on, but that is your logic, if you tie one thing with the other
that you saidl Really, you should... I don't want to answer some of the other
things that you said in allegations, but you should really stick to the
argument on this particular project. Is there anyone else that wishes to be
heard against... sir?
Mr. Perez-Lugones: (COMMENTS IN SPANISH)
Mr. Jose Fernandez: Good evening, my name is Jose Fernandez. I live at 620
N.W. 59th Court. This is the eight time that I am coming to this Commission
opposing strongly against the proposed Pan-American Hospital. About the
parking spaces, let me remind you, Mr. Mayor, that you sent somebody to count
the parking spaces at the Pan-American Hospital. Who was going in there, was
supposed to go was Yolanda. He never met her.
Mayor Suarez: We heard that already. Did she ever call my office and say
that they were preventing her from counting the spaces? That is all we
offered to do.
Mr. Fernandez: All right, now back in 1973, when Mr. Kennedy was the Mayor of
the City of Miami... David Kennedy, her husband, the Pan-American Hospital
required to get 140 parking spaces, so the Commission granted to waive 28.
Here is the letter of that date from the City Commission.
Mayor Suarez: It could not have been 1978, but it may have been some other...
Mr. Fernandez: Right now... that was in 1973... right now, they have about
400 people, employees, in there. They are supposed to have 274. They waived
28, they are supposed to have 243, and I think that they don't have even 200,
220 parking spaces. They have been taking parking spaces without
authorization, or I don't know. Now, they have about 400 employees. Where
are the patient's visitors going to park their cars? Another thing, here is a
letter that you are supposed to have one with you. This letter was submitted
to the Zoning Board from the St. Dominic's Church, which is a false letter
submitted by a lawyer. You saw it?
Mayor Suarez: Yes, I sure did.
Mr. Fernandez: Now, that letter, if you want to read it, I will read it, but
you have it right in front of you.
Mayor Suarez: No, we talked about the letter last time. There is no need for
you to read it. You can put it in the record, in fact, it is part of the
record.
Mr. Fernandez: That was letter was mailed on March 26, 1986. Now, we have a
letter in here, an authentic letter, with the seal of St. Dominic's Church, on
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July 14, 1986, who denied every agreement, verbal, or in writing, with the
Pan-American Hospital. You have to have that letter in there. You want I
read it to you7 I will.
Mr. Plummer: Read it.
Mr. Fernandez: All right. It says,
"July 14, 1986, To Whom It May Concern: This is to inform you that, I,
Reverend Perez, Pastor of St. Dominic Catholic Church,
located at 5909 N.W. 7th Street, Miami, Florida, have not made any
contract or agreement., in writing, or verbal, with Pan American Hospital
Administrator regarding the use of St. Dominic Parish parking lot for
the benefit, of Pan-American employees. It is the intention of St.
Dominic Church to promote snd maintain a good neighbor policy and help
deter any di.ssgreement and misunderstanding among the neighbors.
(signed) Reverendo Perez,"
and the St. Dominic Church seal is on it. It is very disgraceful for a lawyer
to submit a false letter right in front of you, the Commissioners. You
represent the government of the City of Miami.
Mayor Suarez: Let me ask you a question, because you are making pretty strong
allegations here. When the priest wrote that letter that you just read, did
he know that another letter supposedly, had been circulated with the parish
letterhead? Did he know about the other letter?... the one that you say is
false?
Mr. Fernandez: I don't know. He found out when we told him about it. Then
he got mad and he wrote that letter.
Mayor Suarez: But, he didn't make any reference in that letter, to the other
letter. I wonder why?
Mr. Plummer: Who signed the first letter?
Mr. Fernandez: The first letter, is not signed, or affixed. That one is
false.
Mr. Cardenas: Mayor, if I may, because that is strong allegation. Again for
the record, my name is Al Cardenas, I am the attorney for the applicant. We
have here, a young lady, an employee of the hospital, who is prepared to state
on the record, that the letter that I tendered to this Commission and to the
Zoning Board, the other administrative bodies, was a letter tendered to her
personally by the individual priest who was in charge of St. Dominic's at that
particular time, and I just want to put that on the record, because we respect
the integrity of this hospital, its administrators and employees, and we
certainly can't let that accusation go unanswered, and we are ready to...
Mayor Suarez: OK, I don't think it really has all that much to do with the
matter before us, but there is a strong allegation and it is fair to have an
answer to it.
Mr. Plummer: Let me ask this question. Al, in your covenant, or in your
proffer, does St. Dominic's lot, is it tied to this application?
Mr. Cardenas: No, sir.
Mr. Plummer: All right, then it is immaterial, OK? It is immaterial to the
point that it doesn't affect this application. In other words, this
application here does not depend, yes, or no, on this letter. Now, the
accusations you make are pretty heavy accusations, but I think the important
factor is, does that parking space directly relate to this, and the answer is
no. So, you know, I understand what you are saying, but I don't think it
directly relates to this application before us.
Mr. Fernandez: Well, in reference to the application, since the beginning,
Pan-American Hospital, who Mr. Cardenas represents, has been lying to the City
Commission and to all the neighbors. They called two meetings, tried to get
together with the neighbors. They didn't nothing out of the neighbors, and ; they have been lying all over to the City Commission, and then...
Mr. Plummer: Could you use the word, misrepresenting, or...t
Mr. Fernandez: Well, misrepresenting, all right.
Mr. Plummer: We]], but. lying is a heavy accusation, I...
Mr. Fernandez: Then, they changed their mind, what they was going to build in
there for three, four times. You know that?
Mr. Plummer: Yes, sir.
Mr. Fernandez: Right, they have been lying, they misrepresented, like you
say, all. right.
Mayor Suarez: Wait, let me ask you a question. They changed their minds what
they were going to build there. The last time that they came before this
Commission in 1985, Fnd their change of zoning was approved, what did they
have in mind at. the time, as far as you remember?
Mr. Fernandez: First, thing, they said they were mooing to put up thirteen
offices over there, and they say some kind of about that.
Mayor Suarez: That was 19857... thirteen offices?
Mr. Fernandez: Yes. Then, they changed, because the Commission doesn't
accept that, so they came over with four doctor's offices, with only twelve
parking spaces. If there is four doctors, four secretaries, one receptionist,
so only what is left is three parking spaces for the visitors, for the
patients, four doctor's offices.
Mayor Suarez: Bold that argument. That; is a good argument. What about that,
Counselor?
Mr. Cardenas: Mayor, first of all, as you know, parking spaces are calculated
on a per square footage basis. We exceed the parking requirements on this
particular facility that the code calls for. We made a statement, and I will
make it again, that there are four doctors, four nurses, two additional
employees that will be working at this facility. There are more rooms,
because anybody who has gone to a doctor's office understands that doctors
have several waiting rooms where he goes to examine patients, and any
efficient doctor's office has examining room number one, examining room number
two, examining room number three, examining room number four, and so forth. I
made a statement, and I will make it again, that these are four doctors who
are also administrators of the hospital and who are going to be here at this
particular facility and they have four nurses, and they have two other
employees and the parking that they provide on site, exceeds the City's code
requirements. In addition to that...
Mayor Suarez: Yes, but that is a technical answer, and we get...
Mr. Cardenas: OK, but in addition to that...
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Mayor Suarez: Technically, the City, on the other hand, says, even though
this rezoning was approved before, and even though now we are here only on a
special exception, they can go back and recommend that denial of something
that was envisioned, in fact...
Mr. Cardenas: Right, let me go over it...
Mayor Suarez: So, everybody thinks technical on both sides, and I am not
getting an answer to a logical question.
Mr. Cardenas:... again, if I can. To resolve that particular issue and the
concern expressed by the neighbors, because yes, sir, you are absolutely
right, this is a permissible, and not a permitted use in that zoning category.
There were three hearings before the Zoning Board. There was a lot of work
that staff performed, and there were particular spaces designated across the
street for the use of the particular employees of this facility. Part of the
resolution, and the motion that was adopted, and the resolution which
followed, and makes a provision relative to that particular statement that I
am stating. Here is what it says, it is item number four of that motion, Mr.
Mayor, providing ten off-street parking spaces on the hospital site, located
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at 5959 N.K. 7th Street, so in reality, if you take these, as per the motion,
and if you take the ones we are providing, we are doubling the code
requirements, and we further proffered earlier, now, we will further proffer
it this evening, that...
Mayor Suarez:: Fill those be marked for the exclusive use of this office?
Mr. Cardenas: Not only thAt, to make it easier on the visitors, And so that
there is no change that there will be visitors over spillage, 011 of the
employees who Y-511 be working At this facility will be parking At those ten
designated spots, so that All of the spots provided At this particular
facility, will be provided for the visitors, And not the employees.
Mayor Suarez: You know, I have to tell you that yoij had better do it that
way, because I have been to the hospital A couple of times in my life, and
finding parking spaces there At the hospital was always difficult.
Mr. Cardenas: Absolutely. I will say this, Mr. Mayor, if I...
Mayor Suarez: You said, absolutely, before I finished my statement.
Mr. Cardenas: I'm sorry.
Mayor Suarez: That parking was difficult there. I mean, I may have said the
opposite, and you still said, absolutely, so...
Mr. Cardenas: My statement was contingent on this. There is no doubt that
this was a difficult situation to begin with. Commissioners Dawkins and
Plummer recalled those meetings. There were 90 some neighbors at that time
when this whole thing got started. There was fear expressed about hotels
going up, six story buildings going up, and so forth. We have had at least
ten public hearings in the various administrative boards on this Commission.
This project bears no resemblance to what got started. What is before you is
not a zoning decision. You may or may not agree with a zoning decision that
the Commission made earlier. What is before you is the following: I did not
handle the filing of the application. I came to represent the client after he
was through the original rezoning hearing before the Zoning Board. As a
result of that, I inherited an ongoing application, which failed to have with
it an accompanying special exception application, which would have made this
whole process we are before this evening, moot. Unfortunately, when I
inhe-'ted the application, that was the status quo of the situation. We
proceeded through with a hearing, we made numerous negotiations with staff,
with the neighbors at the two meetings that mentioned, and so forth, and came
up with a rezoning that was accompanied by a voluntary covenant, which we
earlier proffered. Based on that covenant that we proffered and the rezoning,
we came before the Zoning Board on the special exception. Now let me tell you
very simply what the legal issue is. The negotiations that took place before
the City Commission, and Commissioners Plummer and Dawkins recall it, were so
extensive, as were negotiations with staff and concessions to the neighbors,
that the only use that we could possibly have on this site, based on those
covenant restrictions, is the use that we are applying here before you this
evening. If, in fact, you do not agree with the Zoning Board, with all the
other decisions that were made earlier, you will, in fact, have provided our
client with a useless property, because the only thing other than what we are
seeking to have here that is permitted is a school or a church, and we are
neither in the school or church business: so it was obvious to me and obvious
to the Commission at the time that the zoning was granted, that what was
eventually going to take place in this particular property, was the use that
is before you this evening. But, that is not all. We have to file for a
special exception application. We went before the Zoning Board, and in spite
of the fact that we had made all those negotiations with administrative
boards, and with the City Commission to get the rezoning, we had to go through
a whole new renegotiation effort that really had nothing to do with this
property. It had to do with St. Dominic's, the hospital and so forth, and
there were a number of important concessions made again to the residents, and
I think if you will recall, last time when you deferred this item, those who
appealed this case made a statement that it was too bad it was in the daytime,
because he would have sent a packed house here. As a matter of fact, there
are four opponents, there are 40 proponents for the use, and I have got here a
petition signed by over 300 people, 60 percent or more of them, definitely
residents and citizens of the City of Miami, who are in favor of this
application, many of whom live within a two mile radius of this particular
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use, and I want to proffer to the Clerk at this point, but going back to that
situation, it was...
Mayor Suerez: Wait, Al, I am sorry, and I have not taken everybody out of
turn, but really, let him complete his presentation.
Mr.. FernFndP7 : All right.
Mayor SuFrP2: Don't worry about the time. You have had plenty of tim6# but
you will have more time.
Mr. Fernandez: _ 94 signatures opposing.
Mayor Suerez: We have got those in the record.
Mr. Fernandez: All right, now, here is 157 signatures of neighbors who live
within 375 feet from the , right. here. You should have a copy of this.
You know, np.me by name, and addresses. Now, all those signatures he is giving
there, are people living. In Hialeah, Westchester, probably in Key West, or 20
miles from there. They are not really neighbors. They don't represent the
neighborhoods They have got no families in there. I've got my family there.
I've raised my two sons.
Mayor Suarez: You want to ask how many of the people that are here are in
favor of this exception that Live in the neighborhood? Do you want me to ask
them that?
Mr. Fernandez: Yes, ask how many live in the...
Mayor Suarez: Would you raise your hands if you live in the neighborhood?
Mr. Plummer: Live within 375 feet.
Mayor Suarez: Or, even live in the City of Miami.
Mrs. Kennedy: Or the City of Miami.
Mayor Suarez: I mean the City of Miami, City of Miami, not Greater Miami.
All right, a heck of a lot live in the City of Miami, not that many live in
the neighborhood, anyhow.
Mr. Fernandez: How many of them can show a letter like this?
Mayor Suarez: Well, presumably, the ones that live within the code
requirements.
Mr. Fernandez: I know Mr. Angullo , that was sent by American Hospital,
trying to collect signatures in the beginning. The last house he reached was
me, and he said he collected only two signatures in there, because there was
people that was no , and I brought 94 in three hours. Now,
here...
Mayor Suarez: The argument is not going to be determined on the basis of how
many people are for, or against, or so on, but you have made yu..r point on
that, so go ahead, proceed, what else do you want to tell us?
Mr. Fernandez: Tonight, you don't see here, so many people like I brought
here, Mrs. Yolanda Lezcano, because people get tired to get down here, 40, 50
people, and the Commission has some of them. Now, myself, I ask...
Mayor Suarez: Well, that is one possibility, that they get tired. The other
possibility is that over the time that this has been considered, the project
has been reduced in size quite a bit, and people may be, at this point, not
willing to come to City Hall to oppose it, I don't knowl Go ahead.
Mr. Fernandez: I want to tell you something tonight, that you, Mayor, and -
Commissioner Kennedy, probably don't know. Mr. Plummer will know, what I
will mention, and Commissioner Dawkins, too. Pan-American Hospital owns three
or four acres of land in the other side of the canal, right behind the ran -
American Hospital. Why, that is the question, why they don't do whatever ;hey
want there, that nobody is going to oppose?... and they want to invade our
neighborhood, where I live in there for twenty years, and so many people in
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there living there for, 20, 15 years, families in there, like myself, and to
see, that we
Mrs. Kennedy: Mr. Mayor, let me just... I have heard a lot of the arguments
back and forth, but let me ask you something. The previous Commission
approved a zoning change from residential, to multifamily. That also
Includes doctors and dentFi offices. Now, also in the negotiations, there is
a stipulation that says, and I am reading, "no use shall be merle of, nor. any
activity conducted on the P ject property between the night time hours of
10:00 p.m, and 6:00 a.m., prevailing _ time, so that clearly leaves
multifamily out., so the only thing. really, that can be built is a doctor's or
dental offices. I think this is something that has already been decided by a
previous Commission, and 1 don't see Fny other way.
Mr. Cardenas: Not only that., but I will say this to you, because you are not
really making a decision which is an irreversible decision in the event you
were mistaken in your wisdom... I hope you understand what you are agreeing to
here this evening,. You are agreeing to a one-year conditional use, revisited
by the Zoning Board, which in essence, tells us and you, that all of the
complaints that the neighbors hpve raised, we have hopefully answered through
the plans that. we have promulgated. The question was asked, "Well, what if
they don't keep up with what they are telling you they are going to do?" We
would be very foolish to do that., because in one year this matter comes back
up for review again, and who in the world is going to go through the expensive
proposition of spending $1,000,000 on a site they don't intend to comply with,
and live up to, so you could yank, that. conditional use away from them, and be
left a useless piece of property. Obviously, that hospital has a financial
need to comply, if not a moral need to comply with the situation. You are not
giving us a free ride on the situation. We have had two years of negotiations
with the City. This Is the only land use left for this piece of property that
we can use it for. It carries covenants that have nothing to do with this
project to alleviate a neighborhood situation, and furthermore, you are going
to review it in a year. I don't see you making a magnanimous decision here.
Mr. Dawkins: Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Suarez: Yes, Commissioner.
Mr. Dawkins: I was here, I voted against this project in the beginning.
Since that time, we have been here, back and forth, just like we spent almost
an hour and one/half here now and we did something to the neighbors, in that
the neighbors did not have a lawyer, and the Pan-American Hospital had a
lawyer, therefore they were able to get what they wanted, and the neighbors
didn't, that is our fault, their fault, or whoever. Now, I think the votes
are the same, and if we sit here until 12:00 o'clock discussing this, the
votes are still going to be the same, so I am going to make a statement, and
I'd like to make a motion. I have spoken with Pan-American Hospital, I hear
the attorney when he says only four doctors will be in this building, I find
that hard to accept, but he has no reason to lie. What will be in the other
building? There is two buildings there.
Mr. Cardenas: That is correct. There will be three doctors on one side, and
one doctor on the other with their appropriate staffs.
Mr. Dawkins: OK, in the other building over here? OK, now, I do not accept,
but I don't live out there, the tow -truck theory, OK?... but I don't live out
there, because it is impossible for somebody not to park on my lawn, because
you have got no place else to park, and while the tow truck is moving one car,
six more cars will park. See, but that is a way of life. Now, these are the
things that I spoke to the Pan-American administration about, and these are
some things I would like to see us consider when we come back next year.
Number one, do we have a copy of... would you put this up there, please?...
Now, at the end of the year, I would like to revisit this with the neighbors,
and I've got a commitment from the Administration, I hope they gave it to you,
that in the event that the cars do park on people's lawns, 59th Court and 60th
Avenue, and the neighbors decide that they want to cul-de-sac, and cut off
60th Avenue and 59th Court, and just have a pedestrian way through there, the
hospital has agreed to do that, OK? They made that, that is one. The other
commitment they made is, in order to be good neighbors, and I don't know
whether the neighborhood will accept this as being neighborly or not, but if
they create a hardship, they are willing... and this is again, this is from
the Administration, to offer for any inconvenience, one day a month free
medical service. I don't knout what that means, I don'tknow how many people
need it, etc., but. those are the two commitments that I got, and I am not
going to sit here and lie and sap that the neighbors are not going to have
trouble with people parking on their 1prns, they are! Put.. this is something _
that passed. I voted against it, but in voting against it, I cannot sit up
here and go throz+gh this any longer. therefore, Mr. Mayor, I &m going to make
a motion that we approve this special exception, and my friends will be angry
with me, t~ut that is whr-t I have to do.
Mayor Suarez: So moved.
Mr. Plummer: What was the motioi,?
Mayor Suarez: To approve the special exception and deny the appeal. Ii0
second? I second the motion.
Mr. Dawkins: Mr. J. L. ...
Mr. Plummer: I've got it. There is a motion made to deny the appeal. Is the
motion understood? Any further discussion. Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Dawkins, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 86-863
A RESOLUTION AFFIRMING THE DECISION OF THE ZONING BOARD
AND DENYING THE APPEAL OF THE SPECIAL EXCEPTION AS LISTED
IN ORDINANCE 9500, AS AMENDED, THE Z014ING ORDINANCE OF THE
CITY OF MIAMI, SCHEDULE OF DISTRICT REGULATIONS, PAGE 2 OF
6, RG-3 GENERAL RESIDENTIAL, PRINCIPAL USES AND
STRUCTURES„ TO PERMIT ACCESSORY INSTALLATION AND
FACILITIES FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 5950-60-80-90
NORTHWEST 7TH STREET, MIAMI, FLORIDA (MORE PARTICULARLY
DESCRIBED HEREIN), AS PER PLANS ON FILE, FOR THE PAN
AMERICAN HOSPITAL LOCATED AT 5959 NORTHWEST 7TH STREET,
SUBJECT TO: (1) THE APPLICANT PROVIDING A 24-HOUR TOWING
SERVICE AVAILABLE FOR USE BY THE NEIGHBORS IN THE AREA IN
CASE OF ILLEGALLY PARKED CARS; (2) APPLICANT PAYING FOR
THE INSTALLATION OF A TRAFFIC LIGHT IF APPROVED BY DADE
COUNTY TRAFFIC AND TRANSPORTATION; (3) OPERATING HOURS OF
FACILITY TO BE MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY FROM 8:00 A.M. TO
6:00 P.M.; (4) PROVIDING TEN (10) OFFSTREET PARKING SPACES
ON THE HOSPITAL SITE LOCATED AT 5959 NORTHWEST 7TH STREET;
(5) PROVIDING ALL DEDICATIONS AS REQUIRED BY THE PUBLIC
WORKS DEPARTMENT; AND (6) A REVIEW BY THE ZONING BOARD ONE
YEAR AFTER DATE OF ISSUANCE OF CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY;
ZONED RG-3/5 GENERAL RESIDENTIAL. THIS SPECIAL EXCEPTION
HAS A TIME LIMITATION OF TWELVE (12) MONTHS IN WHICH A
BUILDING PERMIT MUST BE OBTAINED.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here
and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Mayor Suarez, the resolution was passed and
adopted by the following vote -
AYES Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor Miller J. Dawkins
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
ON ROLL CALL:
Mr. Plummer: I vote no, in being consistent.
Mrs. Dougherty: I don't think that was correct.
Mayor Suarez: I will state additionally, that I discussed this matter with
both sides and up until now, I had not only not decided how I was going to
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vote, I hadn't told anybody, and anyone that says anything to the contrary
should search his own conscience about it, but anyhow, I would have voted
against it if I had been here in 1985. 1 think I would have voted against it,
although I am not so sure now, having heard, you know, the presentations of
some of thQ opponents and the arguments that they used, totally directed at
individuals, and not at the project itself.
Mr. Pawkin Well, I was here, and I voted rgainst it fcr the simple reason
that. I felt it was an intrus;on on the neighbors, but. since that. time I mean,
and we sent everybody to the drawing board in Fn effort: to woi-k things out,
and some kind of a way, it just didn't get. through, but. we, and I have to say
we, because the vote was three to two, we made, we passed a 7onin.g change, and
regardless of how the other two might feel, and three members made it, the
Commission made the change, so to keep going back and forth and having the
residents think that we. are: going to make some changes that we are not going
to make, it is just building up false hope and what have you, so you know, do
what we are going to do, and let's go aheedl
Mayor. Suarez.: Thank you, and by the way, that specific sketch, and that plan
that you have got there, the model you have there, is built into your
covenant, and it. had better look like that, because that looks quite nice, and
it better not do any aesthetic harm to the neighborhood, and hopefully it
won't do any harm in terms of traffic or parking. Thank you for your
presentations. Item 1.7, I believe. Yes, Aurelio.
Mr. Perez-Lugones: He wants me to translate the action.
Mayor Suarez: Yes, do it for him privately, would you please?
Mr. Perez-Lugones: (COMMENTS IN SPANISH)
Mayor Suarez: Can you just explain it to him outside, so we can proceed to
the next item?
37. DIRECT PLANNING DEPARTMENT TO STUDY AND RECOMMEND ON POSSIBLE ELIMINATION
OF ALL TRANSITIONAL USES.
Mayor Suarez: Do we have any more Planning and Zoning?
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I'd like to make my motion at this time, under
Planning and Zoning, that the Planning Department... is it to be a study?...
or recommend back to this Commission about the elimination of transitional
uses throughout the City. I so move that as a motion.
Mr. Pierce: We will undertake that immediately. I don't think you really
need a motion.
Mr. Plummer: No, because if it... I don't want you to go study it if this
Commission doesn't agree with it. That is the only way I know to get done.
Mr. Dawkins: I second it.
Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded. Any discussion?
Mr. Dawkins: And don't take all yearl
Mayor Suarez: Call the roll, and hopefully, in the process we will be moving
toward a simpler system of classifications too, please . Call the roll.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved
its adoption:
MOTION NO. 86-864
A MOTION AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE CITY PLANNING
DEPARTMENT TO FURTHER STUDY AND RECOMMEND TO THE
COMMISSION AS TO POSSIBLE ELIMINATION OF ALL TRANSITIONAL
ZONING USES IN THE CITY.
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Upon being seconded by Commissioner Dawkins, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote- -
AYES: Commissioner J. L•. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner. Roeerio Kennedy
Vice -Mayor Miller J. Dawkins
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Mr. Dawkins: How long do you think it will take you to get back?... at the
next meeting?
Mr. Pierce: No, it has to go through Planning Advisory Board first.
Mr. Rodriguez: And we have to look at the implications that it might have for
some of the properties which now presently have the transitional use.
Mr. Plummer: No emergency.
38. SECOND READING ORDINANCE: ORDINANCE 9500 ATLAS CHANGE FOR RG-1/3 TO CR-
2/7 AT APPROXIMATELY 4220, 4234 AND 4244 N.W. 2ND STREET AND AT
APPROXIMATELY 4225 N.W. 1ST STREET (APPLICANT REPUBLIC NATIONAL BANK OF
MIAMI)
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Mr. Rodriguez: You have still one Planning and Zoning item left, number one,
which I believe....
Mr. Plummer: Oh, yes.
Mayor Suarez: That is up to Commissioner Plummer, who has asked for it to be
tabled.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I have gone through the covenant, and I have read it,
and I move PZ-1.
Mr. Dawkins: What is PZ-l?
Mrs. Kennedy: What is that?
Mr. Plummer: Republic Bank.
Mrs. Kennedy: Second.
Mayor Suarez: PZ-1, moved and seconded after being tabled all day.
Mr. Plummer: Read the ordinance.
Mr. Rodriguez: Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Suarez: No, you can't charge for all this time you were sitting here
waiting. You can bill it to...
Mr. Dawkins: To Plummer:
Mr. Plummer: Sergio...
Mayor Suarez: J.L.
Mr. Rodriguez: There is a minor problem with this, because the comprehensive
plan has been already approved. I am sorry, this has already been cleared,
right? That is OK.
Mayor Suarez: Grandfathered in? OK, call the roll.
140 October 23, 1986
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE ZONING ATLAS OF ORDINANCE
NO. 9500, THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MIAMI,
FLORIDA, BY CHANGING THE ZONING CLASSIFICATION OF
APPROXIMATELY 4220, 4234 AND 4244 N.W. 2ND STREET, AND
APPROXIMATELY 6725 N.W. IST STREET, Mlx=.tI, FLORIDA,
(MORE FARTICIIL4RLY DFSCRIFFD HFRFIN) FROM, PG-1/3
GENERAL RF S I T)T? T. I AL (ONT AND 7V0- FAI', I 1..Y ) TO CR- 2 / 7
COMMERCIAL -RESIDENTIAL (CUI4fITIJITY) FY M1,YIhNG FIIJDINGS;
AND BY M,AVJNG ALL THE hiTCFSSARY CHANGES ON FADE IJO.
32F OF SAID ZONING ATLAS 11ADE A FART OF ORDINANCE IJO.
9500 BY RFFFRFIJCF AND DESC.R I FT I ON I14 ART I CLF. 3,
SECTION 300, THERFOF; CONTAINING A RF:FEALE:R PROVISION
A14D A SEVERAPJLITY CL. USF.
Passed on its first reading by title at. the meeting of September 25, 1986, was
taken up for its second gnd final reading by title and adoption. On motion of
Commissioner Plummer, seconded by Commissioner Kennedy, the ordinance was
thereupon given its second and final reading by title and passed and adopted
by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor Miller J. Dawkins
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
THE ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO. 10175.
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and
announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commission and
to the public.
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39. REQUIRE FULL DISCLOSURE AND BACKGROUND CHECK OF ALL ENTITIES NEGOTIATING
WITH THE CITY FOR GRANTING OF CITY LEASES.
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Mr. Plummer: May I try another one on for size?
Mayor Suarez: Yes, Commissioner.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I would like to propose that the Administration...
where is Cesar? ,
Mr. Odio: I am here.
Mr. Plummer: I would like to propose that the Administration come back and
recommend to this Commission in the very near future, that all City leases in
the future, that a full disclosure must be made of all participating parties,
and a background check run on every individual that is a participant, and I so
move.
Mrs. Kennedy: I second.
Mayor Suarez: Background check... I am sorry?
Mr. Plummer: That in the future, all City leases, that a full disclosure must
be made and that a background check be run on all participating parties.
Mrs. Dougherty: What happened?
Mayor Suarez: That would be asked of corporations, or whatever, the officers,
not...
141 October 23, 1986
Mr. Plummer: Full disclosure.
Mayor Suarez: Not every single member of a club, or something?
Mr. Plummer: Not a club, no, but it would be the officers, of course.
(INAUD1Bl,F P-ACVGPf)MT'►) COMMENTS)
Mr. Plummer: And the City Manager come back and recommend to us at the next
meeting.
Mayor Suarez: Oh, I am sorry, you are not asking for it to be on...
Mr. Plummer: 14o, no, no. It has got to be an ordinance, I am sure!
Mayor Suarez: All right, I don't know how I am going to vote on that at some
point, but I guess at this point it is OK for him to look at, whatever. Moved
and seconded? Any discussion7 Call the roll on that.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved
its adoption:
MOTION 140. 86-865
A MOTION AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING
THE CITY MANAGER TO
INSTITUTE A REQUIREMENT THAT IN ALL
FUTURE TRANSACTIONS
FOR THE GRANTING OF CITY LEASES,
ALL ENTITIES AND/OR
CORPORATIONS NEGOTIATING WITH THE CITY
BE REQUESTED TO
FILE FULL DISCLOSURE OF ITS OWNERS/OFFICERS;
FURTHER
REQUIRING A BACKGROUND CHECK BE
CONDUCTED OF SAID
INDIVIDUALS AND FURTHER REQUESTING
THE CITY MANAGER TO
STUDY AND REVIEW THIS ISSUE AND
COME BACK WITH A
RECOMMENDATION AT THE NEXT COMMISSION
MEETING.
Upon
being seconded by Commissioner Kennedy,
the motion was passed and
adopted by
the following vote -
AYES:
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES:
None.
ABSENT:
Commissioner Joe Carollo
Vice -Mayor Miller J. Dawkins
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40. RECOMMEND THAT NEW PROFESSIONAL BASKETBALL TEAM CHANGE ITS NAME TO MIAMI
HEAT.
Mrs. Kennedy: Mr. Mayor, I have the resolution regarding the basketball team
that I'd like to read: (THEREUPON, COMMISSIONER KENNEDY READS RESOLUTION INTO
THE PUBLIC RECORD AS SHOWN HEREINBELOW)
Mr. Plummer: Second.
Mayor Suarez: CPll the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Kennedy, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION N0, 86-866
A RESOLUTIO14 STRONGLY RECOMN,ENDING TO THE OWNERS OF THE
PROPOSED NEW PROFESS1014AL BASKETBALL TEAM TO BE AWARDED A
FRANCHISE BY THE 14ATIO14AL BASKETBALL ASSOCIATION LOCATED
IN THE CITY OF MIAMI THAT THE TEAM NAME BE CHANGED FROM
"FLORIDA HEAT" TO "MIAMI HEAT" TO PROPERLY REFLECT THE
COMBINED PAST, PRESENT A14D FUTt1RE SUPPORT OF THE GREATER
MIAMI COMMUNITY.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here
and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote- —
AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor Miller J. Dawkins
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
41. FIRST READING ORDINANCE: AMEND SECTION OF ORDINANCE 10087, CLARIFY
DEFINITION OF LOBBYIST; ETC.
Mayor Suarez: Item 17.
Mrs. Dougherty: What is 17?
Mr. Plummer: The lobbying.
Mrs. Dougherty: Oh, yes, we are asking for an amendment to item 17. The
language was not clear in the old ordinance, and it is really a housekeeping.
It hasn't changed the intent, except it is clarifying that the City Manager,
and the City Manager's staff is not subject to having disclosure prior to
lobbying those people.
Mr. Plummer: What?
Mr. Odio: Say that again?
Mrs. Dougherty: The ordinance as it is presently written does not require
somebody to register before they lobby the City Manager's staff, although it
wasn't clear.
143 October 23, 1986
Mr. Plummer: So, what you are doing now is, if they lobby the staff, th*7
have got to be a registered lobbyist.
1 Mrs. Dougherty: hlo, they don't have to register.
L Mr. Fl umme r : Vhy rot 7
1 Mrs. Dougherty: fir -cause...
(INAUDIBLE Bf-.CY.CROUND COMMENTS)
Mr. Plummer: No, no, not I move to deny item 17.
Mrs. Dougherty- l7, what I am trying to say is, is that was our
interpretation of l7 from the very beginning, so what we need to do if you
want to change that, is we will amend it, or come back next Commission meeting
with a different: amendment..
Mr. Plummer: That is fine, make a different amendment. I see nothing wrong,
if a person is going to lobby a member of the staff, that they have to be a
registered lobbyist, as if they were going with the head knocker. Why not? I
move that 17 be redrafted and brought back.
Mayor Suarez: So moved.
Mr. Plummer: I mean, you all express your opinion. That's mine!
Mayor Suarez: Yes, I would be willing to vote with it the way it is, if you
want to redraft it, I am not going to oppose that, you know.
Mr. Odio: In other words, now, with this one, they don't have to register
when they come to see us.
Mayor Suarez: I'd prefer that because of the confusion that it has caused
otherwise. Here, we can ask people, and we don't... you know, we are careful
about it, but anyone that...
Mr. Plummer: Yes, but, hey, in your office and my office, we have got to ask
if they come to see us individually, if they are registered.
Mr. Pierce: They are legislators, J.L.
Mr. Plummer: That is all right, what difference does it make?
Mayor Suarez: I would even exclude that. I have built it into my form now,
to ask people, but 99 percent of them, it is silly, they don't even understand
what it means, you know, when they come here and make a presentation, I think
that is adequate assurance. I was not the proponent of this ordinance.
Mr. Dawkins: Call the roll.
Ms. Hirai: Did you second?... second?
Mrs. Dougherty: Should we pass this on first reading, Commissioner? — for the
change next time?
Mr. Plummer: That's fine.
Mrs. Dougherty: OK.
Mr. Plummer: Move 17 on first reading to be drafted differently, by second.
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTION 2 OF ORDINANCE NO.
10087, ADOPTED MARCH 18, 1986, WHICH GENERALLY
REQUIRES THAT FT<RSONS ENGAGING IN LOBBYING ACTIVITIES
IN THE CTTT RFCTcTFR WITH TRF CITY CLERK BEFORE
ENGAGING 314 LOBBYING ACTIVITIFS, BY CI,ARTFYING THE
DEFINITION OF ' 1.0FFYTST" THROTIGH RFSTRI?CT1TPT1JG THE
PROVISIONS OF SATD SFGTTOI�, 1. — 1,A1,TC-11A =F THERETO
AND DELFTT1,TG LANG= IAGF THF,RFFRO!', CONTAINING A RF_.FFALER
PROMSION AND A SFVFRARTLTTY CLAUSE.
Was introduced by Commissioner Plummer and seconded by Commissioner
Dawkins and was passed on its first reading by title by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor Miller J. Dawkins
Mayor. Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and
announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commission and
to the public.
42. FIRST READING ORDINANCE: PROCEED CODE CHAPTER 54, ARTICLE VI (SIDEWALK
CAFES") AT NEW AREAS UNDER CAFE ZONES; AMEND STANDARDS AND CRITERIA FOR
APPLICATION REVIEW.
Mr. Plummer: I move agenda item 18.
Mayor Suarez: 18 is moved.
Mrs. Kennedy: What is 18?
Mr. Plummer: Sidewalk cafes.
Mrs. Dougherty: Yes, I passed it out.
Mrs. Kennedy: We need to read 18?
Mayor Suarez: Span the central business district. You put a lot into one
ordinance therel But, we have to agree with you every once in a while,
Sergio.
Mrs. Kennedy: How about the maintenance, and the liability of the sidewalk
cafes?
Mr. Rodriguez: We are going to have a master lease covering all these areas
with the - D.O.T., by which we will require, like in other places in the City
where we have it in downtown, that they get... the people who ask for
permission will maintain it, and they will get the liability of up to
$1,000,000, so with those two provisions, when we lease... when we give
permission for people to open sidewalk cafes in different parts of the City,
they will have to comply with that part of the ordinance, which is in Chapter
54 of the code, so we believe we have some provisions overthere that will be
safe to have.
Mr. Plummer: I move it.
Mrs. Kennedy: I second.
Mayor Suarez: Moved, seconded. Any discussion? Call the roll.
145 October 23, 1986
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER 54 OF ARTICLE VI OF THE
CODE OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA ENTITLED "SIDEWALK
CAFES," BY ADDIhTG MEW AREAS TO BE INCLUDED UNDER. CAFE
ZONES II? SECTION 54-109, rDFFINTTIOhTS"; AND BY
AMENDING SECTION' 54-31G, "STANDARDS A.1kTD CRITFRIA FOR
APPLICATJON F.FVJFvr, A.l•TD ST-CTJO14 54-116 "FORM AND
CONDITIONS OF rFRYiT."
Was introduced by Commi.seioner Plummer and seconded by Commissioner
Kennedy and was passed on ite first reading by title by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner Rosario Y.ennedy
Vice -Mayor Miller J. Dawkins
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and
announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commission and
to the public.
43. URGE COMPANY TO GUARANTEE BAYSIDE SPECIALTY CENTER RETAIL PARCEL RENTAL
REVENUE AS A PLEDGE FOR CITY REVENUE BONDS.
Mrs. Kennedy: Mr. Mayor, let me just talk for a second abut Bayfront Park. I
have met with Rouse and asked them to guarantee the $7,500,000 for Bayfront
Park on the rents being generated at Bayside. They had told me to put it in
writing, and they would consider it; however, they came back a little while
ago and they said that they needed it in the form of a resolution. Let me
just read: (THEREUPON, COMMISSIONER KENNEDY READ RESOLUTION INTO THE PUBLIC
RECORD AS SHOWN HEREINBELOW) I so move.
Mayor Suarez: Now, that is our resolution. They are standing by it? I mean,
they are going to accept it, once we resolve that?
Mrs. Kennedy: They said that if we send them the resolution, they will...
Mayor Suarez: OK, remember, I once got out of them a letter saying that the
parent company was guaranteeing all of the obligations of the subsidiary,
local subsidiary. God knows, that might be additional ammunition to try to get
them to agree to that. OK, so moved, seconded by Commissioner Plummer. Any
discussion? Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Kennedy, who
moved its adoption:
1 RESOLUTION NO. 86-867
i
A RESOLUTION URGING THE ROUSE COMPANY IN ITS PARENT
COMPANY CAPACITY TO AGREE THAT IT GUARANTEE ITS BAYSIDE
-` SPECIALTY CENTER RETAIL PARCEL RENTAL REVENUE TO SERVE AS
i A PLEDGE FOR CITY REVENUE BONDS IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED
_ $10,000,000.
1
i
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here
and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote-
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AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Vice -Mayor Miller J. Dawkins
ON ROLL CALL:
Mayor Suarez: Yes, I think you are saying that they ain't going to do it,
huh? Oh, you were going to vote no, on it?
Mrs. Kennedy: We have to try.
Mayor Suarez: Please don't vote no on that.
44. FIRST READING ORDINANCE: PROVIDE THAT ACTIONS OF THE CITY COMMISSION
SHALL NOT BE THE SUBJECT OF A MOTION TO RECONSIDER UNLESS MOTION MADE AT
THE NEXT SCHEDULED COMMISSION MEETING.
Mr. Robert L. Tr.aurig: What happened to item 18?
Mr. Plummer: 18 we just passed.
Mr. Traurig: Excuse me, I mean item 19. —
Mr. Plummer: I don't understand item 19 at all. If I ever saw an agenda item
that was fully of gobbledygook, this is itl —
Mrs. Dougherty: Pardonez-moil Pardonez-moil
Mayor Suarez: It is to deal with the Post Office Plaza type situation, where
an item is considered by the Commission and a motion to reconsider it comes up
some months afterwards, right? It couldn't been done simpler than the
proposed ordinance?
Mr. Dawkins: That is mine, I put it on there)
Mr. Plummer: Then you come explain itl
Mayor Suarez: I hear a voicel
(INAUDIBLE BACKGROUND COMMENTS)
Mrs. Dougherty: Let me explain it in the meantime, though. This just means
that you are not to consider on a motion to reconsider any item, which is made
after the first meeting after your Commission meeting in which it is denied.
Mr. Dawkins: Is that clear?
Mr. Plummer: What?
Mrs. Dougherty: You only have one meeting to reconsider it. The second
meeting after that...
Mayor Suarez: Wouldn't it have been easier to put a limitation in terms of
days, as opposed to meetings? Well, anyhow, I don't...
Mrs. Dougherty: No, because sometimes you change your meetings around.
Mayor Suarez: At this point, I...
Mr. Plummer: In other words, what you are saying is, that if you wish to
reconsider an item, you must do it within one meeting thereafter, or...
Mrs. Dougherty: You can't bring that exact item back.
147 October 23, 1986
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Mr. Plummer: Is that all items, of just toning?
Mrs. Dougherty: All.
Mr. Derkins: All.
Mr. Plummer: Ve11, I have no objections to it, I just don't know what the
hell it would Accomplish.
Mrs. Dougherty: You recall, in our Masons' rules, which we abide by, you
don't have to he on the prevailing side.
Mr. Plummer: 1 Am not A P;Acon, I am a Catholic. I've told you that before)
Mrs. Kennedy: Are you a Robert?
Mrs. Dougherty: Under Masons' rules...
Mayor Suarez: How is it worded? The way it is worded now, it is for Planning
and Zoning items, right?
Mrs. Dougherty: Everything. Remember, you don't have to be on the prevailing
side.
Mr. Plummer: The way it is worded now, it is the craziest damn thing
I ever
saw, I've got to tell you thatl
Mrs. Dougherty: Why?
`
Mayor Suarez: This is first reading?
Mrs. Dougherty: This is first reading.
Mayor Suarez: You really want to do this?
Mr. Traurig: Well, I would like to call your attention to the fact that
we
were here today asking for the opportunity to represent the Post Office Plaza
matter; therefore, I would suggest to you that if you pass this, you
do it
with a provision that it takes effect on all actions taken hereafter
by the
City Commission, and it doesn't affect actions previously taken.
Mr. Plummer: It is only first reading, Bobl
Mrs. Dougherty: It has got two...
Mr. Plummer: It is only first reading. It has got second reading,
and 30
days after that before it becomes an effective law.
Mr. Traurig: Well, may we have the opportunity to address that point.
Mr. Plummer: You don't even look like a grandfather! Sit down. All
right,
—
who moves the gobbledygook?
Mr. Dawkins: I move it.
Mrs. Kennedy: The one who put it there.
Mayor Suarez: Moved.
Mr. Dawkins: I moved it.
Mayor Suarez: Seconded.
Mr. Plummer: Oh, for sure.
Mayor Suarez: I just did.
Mr. Plummer: Oh, that is all right. You are the Mayor of millionairesl I'm
the Mayor of gobbledygook)
Mr. Dawkins: You have got to read it.
148 October 23, 1986
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN ORDINANCE PROVIDING THAT ACTIONS OF THE CITY
COMMISSION INCLUDING THE DENIAL OR APPROVAL OF
APPLICATIONS PERTAINING TO AMENDMENTS TO THE ZONING
CODE, COMPRFHF.NSIVE PLAN, OR ELEMENTS THEREOF, SHALL
NOT BE THE SUBJECT OF A IIOTI014 TO RECONSIDER WHICH IS
MADE SUBSEQUENT TO THE FIRST REGULARLY SCHEDULED CITY
COMMISSION MEETING FOLLOWING THE DATE SUCH ACTIONS
HAVE BEEN TAKEN; CONTAINING A REPEALER PROVISION AND
SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.
Was introduced by Commissioner Dawkins and seconded by Mayor Suarez etid
was passed on its first. reading by title by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor Miller J. Dawkins
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and
announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commission and
to the public.
Mrs. Dougherty: I thought it was very clear, Mr. Clark.
Mr. Bob Clark: I did too.
45. APPROVE OMNI AREA REDEVELOPMENT PLAN.
Mayor Suarez: Agenda item 22, is that the next one? Is it worth it?
Mr. Rodriguez: I'm sure you want us to do it with a fairly short
presentation.
Mr. Plummer: Well, no, let's stop on that one for a minute now, and I am
sorry to take your time. I voted for this, and I am still in favor, but let
me tell you my problem now. The reason I voted for this before was based on
the criteria that they were trying to get monies to be made available for an
exhibition center. Ah hal OK? That was their argument before this
Commission. Now, if in fact, that is not now a potential reality, then I have
to know, what is this $17,000,000 fund this will create going to be used for?
Hello there, anybody home?
Mr. Odio: We are home. I don't think we need to do this.
Mr. Matthew Schwartz: The plan is very generally identifies the need for a
catalytic project in the Omni area that will...
Mr. Plummer: Where are they identifying it?
Mr. Schwartz: One plan identifies, within the plan document, in the economic
development portion, there is a need for some project that would spur on
private investment in the area, possibly the Sears site, the site, there
are a number of sites... Jeffersons, that would create new business
opportunity in the area, and we would - it would have to come back, of course
to the Commission for any....
Mr. Plummer: Well, it has got to go to the Metro Commission first, because
they have got to declare it. I understand that.
Mr. Schwartz: Right, that has to be done by the end of the year.
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Mr. Plummer. Now, but, OK... that is going to create a fund of approximately
$17,000,000, is that correct?
Mr. Schwertz: It would create a tax increment the first year of $1,300,000.
Mr. Plummer: But, how many years is it being proposed for?
Mr. Schwartz: Generally, they run from twenty Sears...
Mr. Plummer: OK, so then you are talking over $20,000,000, OK? Now, my
question is, of thpt fund, does this Commission retain at all time, full
control over those dollarF7
Mr. Schwartz: limed on what happens with Southeast Overtown/Park West, and
the agreement, the inter -governmental agreements with this County on that, the
City had full control, e}:cept the County had to approve the budgeting of tax
increment revenues generated from the County's portion. The City has full
control, the City Commission.
Mr. Plummer: ties, And the County broke it off In our ear., OK? No, 1 am
telling you the truth, because they were the ones that made that decision to
go on fast take, and that is what is really throwing our fly in the ointment,
now. I tell you, 1 Am just... I've got to express a concern here, and I am
not expressing the same one that the Mayor spoke to, you know, if you keep
creating these districts, who the hell is going to pay the ad valorem taxes to
keep this City running?
Mrs. Kennedy: That is the thing that I saw, yes.
Mayor Suarez: We're tying our hands. District by district, we're tying our
hands as to the entire....
Mr. Plummer: OK, you know, that is a concern. My concern is, when I voted
for this originally, it was the purpose of possibly putting in an exhibition
hall, OK? Now, that doesn't look like the reality of things - I'll tell you
something, I would like to give some more thought to this, I really would. I
really..., you know... —
Mrs. Kennedy: Because, you know, Matthew, we will continue to carve out in
this area, so the money will not go to the General Fund.
Mayor Suarez: And we know the next one is coming, Dupont Plaza, where we may
need it, in case we can put together a package to finance a permanent, or
first rate, or whatever, exhibition...
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, that is really an entirely different project, OK?
Mayor Suarez: Yes, but I mean is, that we are going to have another area
that we are going to want to carve out!
Mr. Plummer: OK, yes but, you see, here again, that request is going to be
for basically the things that are necessary, such as water, sewers, streets
and things of that nature, because without them, you won't have the project,
so there is a difference, there is a big difference.
Mayor Suarez: I'm just saying that maybe it would be a good time to consider
both of those together. Does that create a problem for...?
Mr. Schwartz: I think it would...
Mayor Suarez: OK, what is the problem? I figure there was going to be an
answer to this.
Mr. Schwartz: It has to be a fast
Mayor Suarez: Well, no, because the buildings are going on line in the tax
rolls.
Mr. Bailey. First of all, I think that in relationship to the Dupont Plaza
site, under the new tax law, I don't believe that you can have tax increment
bonds floated for anything less than 100 acres. I think probably, before we
150 October 23, 1986
even get involved with comparing the two, we ought to consider at least the
new tax changes. The west of Omni site does include, to the best of my
knowledge, ell of the considerations that fits in with the next tax laws, and
it does include more than 100 acres. In regards to the exhibition center., it
Is still a reality.
Mayor Suarez: I -re you implying that the new tax IF-w makes any specification
whatsoever rrrFrding the Fcreage of the development districts?
Mr. i?ailey: The try, increments bonds, if you want to float tax increment -
revenue bonds, ar.•d they ere authorized under a state redevelopment statute,
that minimum size of thatacreage has to be 100.
Mr. Plummer: Wow
Mayor Suarez: That. is in the tax lows approved by both houses?
Mr. Bailey: That is my understanding of the new tax bill.
Mr. Plummer: Well, look, we are still under the January 1, OK?
Mr. Bailey: Well, he signed it today didn't he?
Mr. Plummer: Excuse me?
Mr. Bailey: Well, OK, we will...
Mr. Plummer: If I defer this out to the next meeting, November 13th, we can
still make the application.
Mr. Bailey: I don't think... if you defer this to November 13th, we have to
get it on the County Commission, and the County Commission has to have two
readings, because it is an ordinance. If we don't get this passed prior to
December 31, then we will lose a real advantage of that we are trying to
capture.
Mayor Suarez: How are we going to do one of these once we pass it, Herb?
Mr. Bailey: Sorry, sir?
Mayor Suarez: How do we do a development district, once we have passed it, if
we change our minds and decide that we don't want to tie our hands like this
for many years? I guess we don't apply to the County, for one thing.
Mr. Bailey: Well, you can always, through the enabling legislation passed on
to the County, this Commission can always ask the County to rescind the
designation of the redevelopment area, if for some reason you decide not to do
that
Mayor Suarez: I guess we can always apply the tax increment bond monies to
normal operating expenses to us, I suppose.
Mr. Bailey: Well, you know...
Mayor Suarez: We could always get back to...
Mr. Bailey: It is such a flexible tool, and I would hate for us not to take
advantage of it, because, as you look at the economics of what is happening in
the west of Omni area, the same thing is happening there that happened in
Overtown Park West, just before we came. The assessments there are going
down. We expect, based on our calculations, that you will have another two to
three percent drop in the...
Mr. Plummer: Are you recommending we pass this?
Mr. Bailey: I am recommending very strongly that we pass this so we can
exercise all of our options.
Mayor Suarez: If you look at... try to be fair about different areas of the
City and keeping in mind that it seems like we are heading in that direction,
although I haven't heard a clear recommendation yet, and I guess there is none
from Commissioner Plummer's committee, on where we are going to locate...
151 October 23, 1986
where we are going to spend the $7,000,000 or $8,000,000 that we hope to have
available.
Mr. Plummer: I informed you, Mr. Mayor, that I will have an answer for you
prior to December 1.
Mayor Suarez: lout, I keep hearing that the recommendations are going to be
that v'e do go pheFd Fnd proceed. In fact., I think we have taken some action
already to proceFd to improve Dinner Key Exhibit Hall.
Mr. Bailey: We havR, I guess, resolved thRt....
Mayor Suarez: It seems like the only fair thing to do for the Omni area is to
provide some redevelopment monies.
Mr. Plummer: Well, I will move...
Mayor Suarez: If you are telling me that the assessments are going down in
the entire area, taken as a whole?
Mr. Bailey: Absolutely.
Mr. Plummer: Yes, and they are going to go down worse when moves
up.
Mr. Bailey: They are going down, we are losing tax revenues and it is getting
worse every day.
Mayor Suarez: We've got to. I'm ready to vote on it, if that is the case. I
have a hard time believing it, but if you tell me....
Mr. Plummer: All right, since we do still have the ability to withdraw the
item, I will move it and get it into the works before the end of the year, so
I now.... I am going to move that, but I am also concerned that you are now
telling me about the 100 acre situation...
Mr. Bailey: I will bring you that section of...
Mr. Plummer: No, I am concerned about that Dupont property down there.
Mr. Pierce: No need in having it if you are not going to sell bonds. There
is no need of having tax increment district. The only reason to have this is
to generate revenues to float bonds out into the future to build something
today)
Mr. Plummer: OK, but what I am saying is, if we approve this one, where do we
stand with the Dupont, which is absolutely mandatory?
Mr. Bailey: That is right, we just have to go back and start calculating what
we quarter off as a part of the district. You don't have a problem with that.
We just determine how far do we go.
Mr. Plummer: The timing is the problem!
Mr. Bailey: Well, I don't even think, you know, to get, and it is
unfortunate, and I wasn't involved in determining how we planned for the
Dupont Plaza district as a tax increment district, but if you don't... you can
still get them in, you just have to wait until 1988 before you can begin to
freeze the tax base.
Mr. Plummer: Well, if we have it on the next meeting...
Mr. Bailey: You can get it started. See, what is crucial to us today in the
Omni area is that we expect...
Mr. Plummer: Excuse me. I am going to move that. I am going to talk to the
Dupont area.
Mr. Bailey: All right, I will be ready in December for that.
Mr. Plummer: Yes, but December is going to be too late!
152 October 23, 1986
Mr. Bailey: Well, no, it is a different reason for December 31st. The reason
for December 31st for the Omni is that the Plaza Venetia, the Venetia building
Mill perhaps go on the tax rolle in 1087. If we don't capture it before the
end of the year, we won't get that tax benefit.
Mr. Plummer: Vhen does the kick in of the 100 acre minimum take...
Mr. Bailey: The nFxt. tFx bill.
Mr. Plummer: ThFt. is December, or January 1.
Mr. Bailey: No, it is August. It is effective August 1st.
Mr. Plummer: 1i;zve we still got time to get the Dupont in?
Mr. Dailey: No we don't.
Mayor Suarez.: The Dupont has to... we have to figure out how to get in under
one of the exemptions.
Mr. Plummer: No, no, we need to go on that now!
Mr. Bailey: I understand what your concerns are.
Mr. Odio: Let me say, something. We had a meeting this morning on this. Tie
problem might be that the County might not go along with all of these
districts and they might turn us down on the Dupont, because we already have
the Omni, and we are going to need the one on the riverside quadrant.
so...
Mr. Bailey: I do think that when you start applying this process, that in
areas where you have severe deterioration like we have in the Omni area, and
the public purpose that you have at Dupont, I don't think we should discount
ourselves, and we should go before the County and let them decide whether or
not they are going to grant us a privilege. It is just a matter of when do
you want to get there, and what do you want to capture in the time that you
have to there. If the consideration was for the Dupont to get on by January,
they should have been working on the plans sometime...
Mr. Plummer: No, no, it is not to get on by then, but can we still apply?
Mr. Bailey: Oh, you can still apply, but we just have to make sure we have
the proper amount of acreage there to apply to fit in with the new tax laws.
Mayor Suarez: I know there's not 100 acres there.
Mr. Bailey: Well, you would be surprised what you can cut off. We have a lot
of space available, you know. We can...
Mr. Plummer: Well, you can make the district bigger.
Mayor Suarez: Well, can you make the district look like a salamander?
Mr. Bailey: It all depends upon what it...
Mr. Plummer: Herb.
Mr. Bailey: Yes.
Mr. Plummer: Let me tell you something. To this community, that is very
important, I'm telling you.
Mr. Bailey: I understand, Commissioner, but I...
Mr. Plummer: And whatever you can do to get that thing in the works as
quickly as possible...
Mr. Odio: We have a meeting tomorrow morning, so, it is fast tracking...
Mr. Plummer: That is so important! OK, I will move 22 now.
Mrs. Kennedy: Second.
153 October 23, 1986
Mayor Suarez: So moved and seconded. This is a heck of a way to decide how
the City is going to be redeveloped in terms of future tax increments, so, you
know, lest moment...
Mr. Plummer: Well, Mr. Mayor, it doesn't mean that we have to request 20
years either.
Mayor Suarez: I'm sorry?
Mr. Plummer: We don't have to request 20 years.
Mr. Bailey: No, in fact. you can use that money any way you see fit in terms of
underwriting the Cit.y's public expenses, relative to the redevelopment.
Mayor Suarez: As to Omni area, I just. can't possibly leave it out if things
are as bad as you say they are up there. Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 86-868
A RESOLUTION APPROVING, IN PRINCIPLE, THE OMNI AREA
REDEVELOPMENT PLAN, FOR AN AREA GENERALLY BOUNDED BY
BISCAYNE BAY ON THE EAST, THE FLORIDA EAST COAST RAILROAD
TRACKS AND RIGHT-OF-WAY ON THE WEST, I-395 ON THE SOUTH,
AND NORTH 2OTH STREET ON THE NORTH, DATED SEPTEMBER 1986,
A COPY OF WHICH IS ATTACHED HERETO AND MADE A PART HEREOF;
MAKING CERTAIN FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW;
RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE OMNI AREA REDEVELOPMENT PLAN
AND THE MAKING OF CERTAIN FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS
OF LAW TO THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS FOR
METROPOLITAN DADE COUNTY.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here
and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Kennedy, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: Vice -Mayor Miller J. Dawkins
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
46. ACCEPT SENIOR CITIZENS SPECIALIZED POLICING PROGRAM GRANT - ALLOCATE
FUNDS FROM LAW ENFORCEMENT GRANT FUND AS MATCHING FUNDS TO IMPLEMENT
PROGRAM (See labels 49 and 51)
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Mayor Suarez: Item 23, accepting a grant.
Mr. Plummer: There is a grant here of $218,000. There are more monies that
need to be added to that, right?
Mr. Odio: No, there is matching funds, but we...
Mr. Plummer: OK, what are these people going to be used for?
Mr. Odio: They will be used - this is for crime prevention services to the
elderly residing at the 34 public housing sites within the City of Miami. The
City of Miami Police Department plans to carry out the program with a
specialized team of 19 State certified part - time law enforcement officers;
although the program will not start until next year, we must begin to
154 October 23, 1986
immediately recruit the 19 part - time workers so that there will be enough
time to train them. They will work together with the senior citizens,
volunteers involved Jr? the Senior Citizen's Alert Network, S.C.A.N., make
presentations, also, we...
Mr.. Plummer: 0Y, let me ask you...
Mr. DFwkins: 4ieJI, in the event that this is not funded, what happens to
these officers, that ve have put all this training into...
Mr. Plummer: That's my problem! - the following year.
Mr. Dawkins:_ and il1 of our efforts to, and what have you?
Mr. Plummer: You know, they wi1l )ve us for the one year, and if it is not
funded, then they will come down here and crucify us.
Mr. Odio: Then we will have to... but, i think we should start this, and if
these are good people, end they can always become...
Mr. Plummer: What is a part time law enforcement officer?
Lt. Fernandez: lie is really a sworn state officer, under the 320 hours, but
we are going to be carrying them under part time, because of the different
benefits and the possible clash between...
Mr. Plummer: How much is he going to be paid?
Lt. Fernandez: $18,000 a year.
Mr. Plummer: For part-time?
Lt. Fernandez: Part-time.
Mr. Odio: We can always turn them over to P.S.A's., or whatever.
Mrs. Kennedy: Move it.
Mayor Suarez: Moved.
Mr. Plummer: You got to vote for it, but boy, I hate to see what is going to
happen next year.
Mr. Odio: J.L., we are always recruiting for full time. They can always be
turned over, if they are good people.
Mr. Plummer: OK, all right.
Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded. Any discussion? Call the roll on 23.
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155 October 23, 1986
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Kennedy, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 86-869
A RESOLUTION RATIFYING, APPROVING, AND CONFIRMING THE
ACTION OF THE CITY MANAGER, IN ACCEPTING A TWO HUNDRED
EIGHTEEN THOUSAIvID THFFF HiTNDRED AND FIFTY DOLLAR
($218,350.00) SENIOR CITIiFNS SPECIALIZED POLICING PROGRAM
GRANT FROM; THE DFPARTM NT OF JUSTICE, THROUGH THE FLORIDA
DEPARTMENT OF C01,M1141 TY AFFAIRS, FOR, THE. PURPOSE OF
EMPLOYING NINETEEN (19) FART -TIME LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS
TO PATROL THIRTY-FOUR (31,) SENIOR CITIZEN SITES AND TO
PROVIDE THFSF RESIDENTS WITH CRIME PREVENTION
PRESENTATIONS; ALLOCATING FUNDS IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED
TWO HUNDRED EIG14TEE14 THOUSAND NINE HUNDRED A14D SIXTEEN
DOLLARS ($2J8,9J0,00) FROM THE CITY OF 1iIAli I LAW
ENFORCEMENT TRUST FUND FOR THE PURPOSE OF PROVIDING
MATCHING FIJ14DS TO IMPLEMENT THIS PROJECT; FURTHER
AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO INSTRUCT THE DEPARTMENT OF
PERSONNEL MANAGEMENT TO EMPLOY SUCH PERSONS.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here
and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor Miller J. Dawkins
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
47. EMERGENCY ORDINANCE: ESTABLISH NEW SPECIAL REVENUE FUND ENTITLED "SENIOR
CITIZEN'S SPECIALIZED POLICY PROGRAM."
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Mayor Suarez: 24 is a companion item.
Mr. Odio: Yes, it is sir. It is establishing the special revenue fund that
appropriates it.
Mrs. Kennedy: Move it.
Mayor Suarez: Moved. Any second?
Mr. Plummer: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Second. Any discussion? Call the roll on 24.
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN EMERGENCY ORDINANCE ESTABLISHING A NEW SPECIAL
REVENUE FUND ENTITLED: "SENIOR CITIZENS SPECIALIZED
POLICING PROGRAM", APPROPRIATING FUNDS FOR ITS
JPERATION IN THE AMOUNT OF $437,266 COMPOSED OF
$218,350 FROM THE UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE,
THROUGH THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY AFFAIRS,
AND $218,916 FROM THE CITY OF MIAMI LAW ENFORCEMENT
TRUST FUND; CONTAINING A REPEALER PROVISION AND A
SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.
Was introduced by Commissioner Kennedy and seconded by Commissioner
Plummer, for adoption as an emergency measure and dispensing with the
156 October 23, 1986
requirement of reading same on two separate days, which was agreed to by th6
following vote -
AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor Miller J. Dawkins
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Whereupon the Comm] Fsion on motion of Commissioner Kennedy and seconded
by Commissioner Plummer, adopted said ordinance by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor Miller J. Dawkins
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
SAID ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO. 10176.
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and
announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commission and
to the public.
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48. SETTLEMENT IN CONDEMNATION PROCEEDINGS FOR ACQUISITION OF ARENA SITE
PARCEL.
Mayor Suarez: City Attorney needs us to approve the settlu-int on an
emergency basis for condemnation of which parcels are these?
Mrs. Dougherty: It is parcel 57-B for the acquisition of the marina site, and
it is actually not a settlement, it is an offer of judgment as we have done
before. We make an offer, it is $146,000 more than we have already put in the
court's fund. We don't believe that they will accept this offer of judgement.
What this does, is if the jury awards a lesser amount, that means we have cut
off the attorney's fees and costs.
Mayor Suarez: The money is coming from the...
Mrs. Dougherty: For the Sport's Authority, and they have already approved it.
Mayor Suarez: Why do we have a need to do this right now?... because the
offer of judgement expires?
Mrs. Dougherty: No, because we have already done it, and this is ratifying
something that the County Attorney has already done for us.
Mr. Plummer: Can I back up for a minute? Tell Fernandez to come back here.
Mr. Mr. ...
Mr. Dawkins: Lt. Fernandez.
Mr. Plummer: I've got a problem.
Mayor Suarez: Can we vote on this resolution, Commissioner Plummer, on the
settlement?
Mr. Plummer: Yes, go ahead. Go ahead.
Mayor Suarez: Do I have a motion and a second?
157 October 23, 1986
Mr. Dawkins: Yes.
Mayor Suarez: Moved, Commissioner Dawkins.
Mrs. Kennedy: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Seconded, call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Dawkins, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 86-870
A RESOLUTION RATIFYING. AFFROVING AND CONFIRMING AN OFFER
OF SETTLEMENT MADE IN CONDEMNATION PROCEEDINGS FOR
ACQUISITION OF LAND PARCEL 57-R FENDING IN CIRCUIT COURT
CASE NO. 86-14608, CALLING FOR THE PAII,ENT OF AN
ADDITIONAL $146,500 AS THE PRICE OFF PROPERTY LOCATED IN
THE VICINITY OF MIA1{I AVENITE AND 14ORTITVEST 8Tfi STREET,
MIAMI, FLORIDA, WITH SAID ADDITIONAL FUNDS TO BE FROVIDED
FROM THE MIAMI SPORTS A14D EY.iiIRITION AUTHORITY CONVENTION
DEVELOPMENT TAX POND PROCEEDS.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here
and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Kennedy, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor Miller J. Dawkins
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
}
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
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i 49. CONTINUED DISCUSSION AND TEMPORARY DEFERRAL OF ISSUE CONCERNING SENIOR
CITIZENS SPECIALIZED POLICING PROGRAM. (See label 51)
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Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I've got a problem.
Mrs. Dougherty: So do I.
Mr. Plummer: Lt. Fernandez, how much did you tell me that those part timers
were going to be paid, sir?
Lt. Fernandez: $18,000 a year.
Mr. Plummer: $18,000 a year.
Lt. Fernandez: At 35 hours a week.
Mr. Plummer: Now, my calculation comes out to about to about, based on this
money divided by the number of people, to about $12,000 a year.
Lt. Fernandez: OK, this is matching funds.
Mr. Plummer: No, no, no. The total fund is $437,000.
again. I am using a very small calculator.
Mr. Odio: I don't trust that calculator you are usingl
Mr. Plummer: 437.266 divided by 34, equals $12,8601
Mr. Dawkins: That is fringes.
Let me go through it
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158 October 23, 1986
Mr. Plummer: No, part-time get no fringes. Now, something is wrong.
Lt. Fernandez: The things we have here are...
Mr. Plummer: Well, somebody else got a calculator?
Mr. Odio: J.L., it adds up to 12 of them, we will put 12.
Mr. Plummer: No, no, no. I want to know whys
Mr. Odio: I will tell you what, let me send your memo... (INAUDISM
Mr. Plummer: Do you understand what I am saying?
Mr. Dawkins: Yes, I hear you.
Mr. Odio: I will send you a memo tomorrow...
Mr. Plummer: I am using your numbers, Juan, or the numbers supplied to me. I
thought they got no fringe benefits!
(NOTE FOR RECORD: AT THIS POINT, AGENDA ITEM 23 IS MOMENTARILY INTERRUPTED TO
CONSIDER AGENDA ITEM 25)
Mr. Plummer: Hold on, whoa, whoa. Now, you are talking about 19 policemen
instead of 34. Now, somebody is playing games with us.
Mr. Odio: We said 19.
Mr. Plummer: No, you say 34, right here in your damn thing.
Mayor Suarez: 34 senior citizen sites, there.
Mr. Plummer: Exactlyl
Mr. Dawkins: And 19, is even more money!
Mr. Odio: 19 officers in 34 sites.
Mayor Suarez: They have got to divide themselves up into...
Mr. Odio: No, put your glasses on, please. Now, look at it.
Lt. Fernandez: If I may, this...
Mayor Suarez: Right, and cut themselves in half and they go to 34 sites.
Lt. Fernandez: There are 34 buildings, 19 complexes! It was amended that we
send
(INAUDIBLE BACKGROUND COMMENTS)
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50. REAPPOINT A MEMBER TO BOARD OF TRUSTEES OF THE CITY OF MIAMI GENERAL
EMPLOYEES AND SANITATION EMPLOYEES RETIREMENT TRUST.
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Mayor Suarez: Do we have a vote on item 25, the reappointment? Do we have a
motion and a second? Gary Shartzer.
Mr. Dawkins: Mr. Sherman, this is Sherman and those.
Mr. Plummer: A.G., yeah.
Mrs. Kennedy: Move 25.
Mayor Suarez: A. G., yes. Moved, seconded, thirded, call the roll on 25.
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159 October 23, 1986
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Dawkins, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 86-871,
A RESOLUTION REAPPOINTING A MEMBER TO THE BOARD OF r
TRUSTEES OF THE CITY OF MIAMI GENERAL EMPLOYEE'S AND
SANITATION F'N,FI.•O1-FES' RETIREMENT TRUST AS PROVIDED FOR BY
CITY OF MIA►3T ORPINA►�CF NO. 10002 (SECTION 40-227) FOR A
SPECIFIED TF.R►, OF OFFICF.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here
and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Kennedy, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor Miller J. Dawkins
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
ON ROLL CALL:
Mayor Suarez: Yes, on the assumption that there is no real choice here.
51. CONTINUED DISCUSSION IN CONNECTION WITH THE SENIOR CITIZENS SPECIALIZED
POLICING PROGRAM. (See labels 46 and 49)
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Mr. Plummer: OK, now hold it, I've got a real problem with this thing, here
now, hold on. The reason you hire them on a part time basis, is to eliminate
the fringe package, but there is a fringe package built into this thing!
Something is wrong there.
Mr. Dawkins: One thing I like about J.L., when it comes to police and fire,
he is right on the case.
Mr. Plummer: No, when it comes to numbers!
Mr. Dawkins: J.L., when you get that squared away, you can let us know.
Mrs. Kennedy: Yes, let us know!
Mr. Dawkins: Let's go, Commissioner Kennedy.
(INAUDIBLE BACKGROUND COMMENTS)
Mr. Plummer: OK, well, let's get the record straight. Each one of these men
are receiving $23,014. It is not $18,000, as you said before. If I take your
19 officers and divide it by the $437,000, with the fringe, it is $23,000.
(INAUDIBLE BACKGROUND COMMENTS)
Mr. Plummer: You are all crazy.
Mayor Suarez: This Commission is adjourned. De facto, now de jurel
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ACCEPT/AUTHORIZE/EXECUTE/CITY MANAGER/
CITY CLERK. PLAT MIRACLE CENTER, A SUBDI-
VISION IN THE CITY OF MIAMI.
GRANT REQUEST TO SELL BEER AND WINE
AT THE ANNUAL FAIR OF THE "MUNICIPIOS
DE CUBA EN EL EXILIO"/NOVEMBER 9, 1986/ROB-
ERT KING HIGH PARK.
ALLOCATE $1,000,000 FROM 11TH YEAR C.D.L.A.
FUNDS TO COVER IMPLEMENTATION AFFORDABLE
HOUSING DEVELOPMENT/EMPHASIS IN THE
ALLAPATTAH, WYNWOOD, MODEL CITY, AND
OVERTOWN AREAS.
APPROVE/CONFIRM/ALLOCATE $9,500 FROM
SPECIAL PROGRAMS AND ACCOUNTS FUND TO
SECURE A FRANCHISE FROM THE N.B. ASSOC.
FOR AN EXPANSION PROFESSIONAL BASKETBALL
TEAM IN THE CITY OF MIAMI/PURCHASE OF
100 RESERVED TICKETS FOR THE HOME GAMES.
RELAX TIME LIMITATION ON FIREWORKS DISPLAY
UNTIL 11:30 P.M.(10/25/86) AT THE FLAGLER
DOG TRACK/INTERNATIONAL CLASSIC EVENT.
ALLOCATE A SUM NOT TO EXCEED $15,000.00
FROM SPECIAL PROGRAMS AND ACCOUNTS FUND
IN SUPPORT OF THE BETHUNE COOKMAN ORANGE
BOWL COLLEGE FOOTBALL GAME (11./8/86).
APPROVE THE TRANSMITTAL TO THE SOUTH
FLORIDA REGIONAL PLANNING COUNCIL OF
THE A.D.A. FOR DOWNTOWN MIAMI AS A D.R.I.
ALLOCATE $30,000FROM THE FY'86-87 FUND
TO COVER THE COST OF FEE INCREASES FOR
SUBMISSION OF THE D.R.I. TO THE SOUTH
FLORIDA REGIONAL PLANNING COUNCIL.
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FUNDS TO BE EXPENDED FROM FY'86-87 SPA.
AUTHORIZE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE AN
AGREEMENT BETWEE14 THE CITY OF MIAMI
AND METROPOLITAN DADE COUNTY FOR THE
SALE OF 35,000 CUBIC YARDS OF FILL MATERIAL
FROM VIRGINIA KEY/PRICE: $2.00 PER CUBIC
YARD.
AUTHORIZE CITY MANAGER TO UNDERTAKE
QUALIFIED FIRMS FOR PROFESSIONAL PLANING
AND DESIGN SERVICES FOR THE RENOVATION
AND EXPANSION OF THE COCONUT GROVE EXIBITION
CENTER AND PRESENT THE AGREEMENT TO
THE CITY COMMISSION FOR ITS RATIFICATION
AND APPROVAL.
AUTHORIZE CITY MANAGER TO ACCEPT THE
DONATION OF AMMUNITION FROM BANK SYSTEMS
AND EQUIPMENT CORP. FOR THE USE BY THE
MIAMI POLICE DEPT. TRAINING UNIT/SWAT
AT NO COST TO THE CITY.
APPROVE TWO YEARS EXTENSION OF THE AGREEMENT
DATED NOVEMBER 2, 1983 BETWEEN THE CITY
AND BUS BENCHES CO.
AUTHORIZE CITY MANAGER TO PAY AND ADDITIONAL
$355,655(LAND PARCEL 44-E OF 37,000
SQUARE FEET LOCATED AT 80 N.W. 8 ST.
MIAMI, FL.)/PENDING COURT CASE NO.86-14608/
FUNDS FROM MIAMI SPORTS AND E.A.C.D.
TAX BOND PROCEEDS.
AUTHORIZE CITY MANAGER/CITY ATTORNEY
TO TAKE LEGAL ACTION TO REMOVE BETTE
& BERT BAYFRONT 66 MARINA, INC., A/K/A
MARTIN TRITT FROM CITY OWNED PROPERTY
ON WATSON ISLAND.
TERMINATE LEASE AGREEMENT NOVEMBER 6,
1984, AS AMENDED BY ADDENDUM OF FEBRUARY
12, 1985,WITH THE AMERICAN BARGE CLUB,
INC.
86-851
86-852
86-853
86-854
86-855
86-856
86-857
86-858
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AUTHORIZL. CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE AN
AGREEMENT IN' ITH MIAMI MUNDIAL, INC. FOR
THE USE OF THE ORANGE BOWL FOR MAJOR
INTERNATIONAL SOCCER EVENTS AND OFFICIAL
COMPETITIONS.
APROVE "S.W. 27TH AVE.- A GATEWAY TO
COCONUT GROVE: A PLANNING STUDY OF D.T.I."/
DATED AUGUST 1985/BOUNDED BY SO. DIXIE
HIGHWAY TO SO. BAYSHORE DRIVE/ 350 FEET
EAST TO 350 FEET WEST OF S.W. 27 AVE.
TO VIRGINIA ST., 200 FEET NORTH b SOUTH
OF COCONUT GROVE AVE.
AFFIRM DECISION OF THE ZONING BOARD/DENY
APPEAL OF THE SPECIAL EXCEPTION AS LISTED
IN ORDINANCE 9500,AS AMENDED, THE ZONING
ORDINANCE OF THE CITY, SCHEDULE OF DISTRICT
REGULATIONS, PAGE 2 OF 6, RG-3, GENERAL
RESIDENTIAL, USES AND STRUCTURES, TO
PERMIT ACCESORY INSTALLATION AND FACILITIES
FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 5950/60/90
N.W. 7TH ST.MIAMI, FL./PAN AMERICAN
HOSPITAL/SPECIAL EXEPTION OF 12 MONTHS
IN WHICH A BUILDING PERMIT MUST BE OBTAINED.
RECOMMEND OWNERS OF THE NEW PROFESSIONAL
BASKETBALL TEAM,THAT THE TEAM NAME BE
CHANGED FROM "FLORIDA HEAT" TO "MIAMI
HEAT" COMBINING PAST, PRESENT, AND FUTURE
OF THE GREATER MIAMI COMMUNITY.
URGE THE ROUSE CO. IN ITS PARENT COMPANY
CAPACITY TO AGREE THAT IT GUARANTEE
ITS BAYSIDE SPECIALTY CENTER RETAIL
PARCEL RENTAL REVENUE TO SERVE AS A
PLEDGE FOR CITY REVENUE BONDS/AMOUNT
NOT TO EXCEED $10,000,000.
APPROVE THE OMNI AREA REDEVELOPMENT
PLAN, FOR AN AREA BOUNDED BY BISCAYNE
BAY ON THE EAST, THE FLORIDA EAST COAST
RAILROAD TRACKS AND RIGHT-OF-WAY ON
THE WEST, I-395 ON THE SOUTH, AND NORTH
20TH ST. ON THE NORTH/SEPTEMBER 1986.
ALLOCATE NOT TO EXCEED $218,916.00 FROM
THE CITY OF MIAMI ENFORCEMENT TRUST FUND
FOR THE PURPOSE OF EMPLOYING 19 PART-TIME
LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS TO PATROL 34 SENIOR
CITIZENS SITES.
86-859
86-860
86-863
86-866
86-867
86-868
86-869
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APPROVE AN OFFER OF SETTLEMENT MADE IN
CONDEMNATION PROCEEDINGS FOR ACQUISITION
OF LAND PARCER 57-B, LOCATED MIAMI AVE
AND N.W. 8TH ST., PENDING IN COURT CASE
INTO, 86-14608/ADDITIONAL $14.6,500 PROVIDED
FROM THE MIAMI SPORTS AND EXIBITIONT AU-
THORITY CONVENTION DEVELOPMENT TAX BOND.
REAPPOINT A MEMBER TO THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES
OF THE CITY OF MIAMI GENERAL EMPLOYEES'
RETIREMENT TRUST AS PROVIDED FOR BY CITY
OF MIAMI ORDINANCE NO. 10002 (SECTION
40-227) FOR A SPECIFIED TERM OF OFFICE.
86-870
86-871