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CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIOA
INTEROFFICE MEMORANDUM
DATE: March 2, 1987 FILE:
SUDJECT: Transcript of Alleged
Discrimination b
Linbeck Co. rNiami
REFERENCES: Arena
ENCLOSURES:
Pursuant to request of the City Commission during discussion of
agenda item 27, at the meeting of February 26, 1987, attached
hereto please find completed transcript of said discussion, as
well as copy of excerpt of a previous discussion during the
Commission meeting of January 22, 1987. These transcripts are to
be part of the packet which the administration will carry with
them when they go to meet with representatives of Linbeck Co.
If we can be of further assistance, pelase do not hesitate to
call.
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26. DISCUSSION CONCERN,,' ALLEGED DISCRIMINATION PRACTICES BY THE
LINBECK COMPANY AT MiAMI ARENA SITE.
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Mr. Dawkins: Mr. Mayor, can we take 27 now, so we can get to it
before lunch, please?
Mayor Suarez: Yes, Commissioner. Yes - Item 27.
Mr. Dawkins: Mr. Mayor and fellow Commissioners, we have been
going through this ever since we started, and for some reason,
the... we have no problems with the developer, and I would like
to go on the record, so the media will understand that we have no
argument at all with the entity that's attempting to get an
N.B.A. team, and the stadium will be ready, and we will see to
that. But we also have to realize that we have people who work
in the City of Miami, pay taxes in the City of Miami, that are
not being given a fair shake on this job. Is there anybody here
from Linbeck? (SILENCE) OK, so...
Mayor Suarez: We can still...
Mr. Dawkins: We will; no problem. OK, now, I would like to
present to this... what we have here, to show that these people
are not operating in good faith. Nov, we have numerous
complaints, and the first one I'd like to take up is from the
carpenters. Will one of the carpenters come up here and tell us
the problem that you've got - alleged improprieties on this job?
Mr. Gustavo M. Figueroa: Good morning, Honorable Mayor...
Mr. Dawkins: And I think, and I want to say now: Linbeck has a
right to request to be here at the next meeting,, and we'll come
back and go through this, if we have to.
Mr. Figueroa: Let me distribute this package to you. (PAUSE)
Good morning, my name, for the record, is Gustavo Figueroa; I
reside at 231 Northwest 134th Court, Miami, Florida. I'm
Director of Organizing for the State of Florida, for the
Carpenters' Union. Good morning, Honorable Mayor, Honorable
Commissioners, City Manager, ladies and gentlemen. Initially,
the primary reason for the South Florida Carpenters District
Council undertaking an informational campaign against Xavier
Structures, Incorporated, which happens to be a wholly -owned
subsidiary of Linbeck Construction, also non -minority, at the
Miami Sports Arena Project, is because of the substandard wages
and substandard benefits - in this case, no benefits being paid
or afforded to employees in the carpentry field. Construction
carpenters do not enjoy the privileges of working regularly, or
having the luxury of job security like other industries. This is
so, sometimes, because of the adverse nature of the construction
industry, where factors such as inclement weather conditions,
delays in deliveries of materials, and other legal and economic
reasons that exist. In the process of our labor dispute being
taken to the public's awareness by displayed picket signs at the {
Miami Sports Arena project, the community and members of the
South Florida Carpenters District Council discovered the so-
called "good faith efforts" to employ local residents, as
follows: (a) no hiring signs at job site trailers and perimeter
fence bordering project; (b) no advertisement through local want
ads in local newspapers or media channels; (c) imported a
majority of the carpenter work force from out of State and areas
outside of Dade County; (d) would not use referral system
designated by the Southeast Overtown/Park West Neighborhood Jobs
Program for several weeks; (e) have not yet hired the first locah7
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Hispanic or non -minority carpenter; (f) locked out prospective
applicants from seeking employment directly; (g) misleading
prospective applicants on pay structure and on the future
employment possibilities; (h) evidence of substandard wages being
paid. When the community carpenters seek employment in the
construction industry, it is usually sought through direct hiring
procedures, through labor organizations, through employment
agencies, government agencies, and through local newspapers,
radio, and media channels. The job opportunities available to
local carpenters have been denied by the actions of Xavier
Structures, Incorporated.
Mayor Suarez: Let me ask you one question on one of the points
that you made, if I may. Commissioner?
Mr. Dawkins: Go right ahead, Mr. Mayor.
Mr. Figueroa: Yes, sir.
Mayor Suarez: Since the last meeting, where all of these
complaints were aired, did they at least remove the "no hiring"
signs?
Mr. Figueroa: No, sir.
Mayor Suarez: Do you know of anyone being hired at the site
since that Commission meeting, even...
Mr. Figueroa: Yes, sir, there has been quite a bit of hiring
involved in there. We consider that the lack of good faith
efforts exerted and displayed by the contractor, which has become
a detriment to the residents of this community, by not supporting
the economic base which it was intended to foster in the first
place. We will continue to uphold the standards this community
stands for. I'd like to point out that we've got evidence, we've
got documented pictures regarding the "no hiring" signs - if
you'd like to... I'd like to put that as part of the record,
introduce it - that are still existing.
Mayor Suarez: Do you have those pictures that show all of the
out -of -State plates, too? Are you going to introduce those?
Mr. Dawkins: Can you kind of speed this up, because we're
trying...
Mr. Figueroa: Yes, I can, in fact...
Mr. Dawkins: ... I'm trying to get through this by twelve.
Mr. Figueroa: ... inside the package that I, basically, made
available to all of you today, there is a Minority Participation
Agreement, and, basically, where it regards, on pages six through
eight, it spells out, basically, the intent of the City and
Decoma, the developer, Miami Sports Exhibition Authority and its
general contractors, in order to seek employment opportunities,
and also the contract portion of the work to be awarded to
minorities in regards to the total contract. That's spelled out
specifically on pages seven, eight, and... you have that before
you. It also spells out, on page eleven, the requirements
regarding the work force hiring. We have a list for you of all
the out -of -State tags that have been recorded there in the
initial first couple of weeks that we were out there. The ones
with the asterisks reflect that they're still on the site. We
also have the Sroward County and other counties within the State
of Florida that are reflected. We have an observation report
that we conducted on February 24th, 1987, of the work force, from
what we can tell, from the employees that were on site that
specific date. We still reflect quite a few from out of State.
We have a reflection of what the breakdown would be, in regards
that if the execution according to the Minority Participation
Agreement would be, regarding the total contracts to be awarded
to minorities, prospectively, for $5,683,950. That would be the 7 n
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goal, to meet 17 percent, in regards to the total contract price,
as it's indicated in the Minority Participation Agreement. We
have in the package several of the press releases we let out in
the community; financial report in regards to... and Secretary of
State corporation report regarding Linbeck and its subsidiaries.
We have an affidavit from one of our employees that was inside
the project, and how he was misled and what were the... you know,
exactly what transpired while he was inside the project - the
fact that he was told that he was going to get paid $11, and then
when his paycheck came in, reflected only $10, and then they
started playing all sorts of games with him. And we have several
other affidavits, which are not available right now, that we
could possibly submit later on at a future date. We also have
the Department of Labor, since the issue of prevailing wages has
come up several times, regarding that there is no prevailing wage
in the State of Florida: that might reflect to be true, but
there is at a county level and a regional level. And you have
enclosed with you the latest Department of Labor prevailing wage
decision, and regarding where the carpenters in the area should
be getting the prevailing wage of $12.40 plus $1.73 for the
fringe benefit packages. You have a couple of the check stubs as
documentation, as proof of what allegations are made. You have a
list of a hundred or so more applicants, that went inside the
project, regardless of the *no hiring" signs, applied for a job -
all right? Their names weren't even documented in most of the
cases; were told to come back within a week or two weeks, while
some other applicants that said they were from out of State got
hired directly; immediately, on the following day. You have some
other articles regarding...
Mrs. Kennedy: Gus, I also understand that some people from out
of State were paid a higher wage?
Mr. Figueroa: That is correct. According to moss of the... they
have a strange operation going there, going on on that particular
project right now. Some days the foremen become carpenters, and
they actually work with their tools, and the ones that are from
out of State, most of them, have been getting anywhere in the
range of $15 to $16 dollars, plus their benefits, to, basically,
reside here in Florida while they're on a temporary basis.
Mayor Suarez: Let me get one procedural thing in. Madame City
Clerk, would you prepare a transcript, a full transcript, of his
testimony and the Commission's handling of this issue, so that we
can get it to Linbeck, and let them know just how these
allegations are being stated.
Mr. Figueroa: Enclosed you see where AGC... a letter was sent to
us in regards to the association that we negotiate our contracts,
requesting a meeting with Linbeck's officials regarding
negotiations of a contract, and the membership sheet, which
includes the Linbeck addresses, from Louisiana and Houston,
Texas, as their main offices, and a letter that I, basically,
sent to Linbeck in regards to negotiations, and turning down
their offer. Enclosed also find a public safety issue, which is
one that we've been complaining about, and we've been lied to
time after time, in regards to the fact that there was going to
be four -foot walkways, barricades, erected around the property,
to secure the safety of the public, because we have been
participating from day one, in the middle of North Miami Avenue
traffic. And we had one incident where one of our members got
Injured out there, and at the same time we reflected the concern,
not only for our members but for the community, that, basically,
is unloading passengers from the bus system right onto North
Miami Avenue. And nobody seems to be concerned enough to require
it, because construction permits have been issued for the
erection of this fence, to block off all public right-of-way.
And up to this date, we were told that there was going to be a...
that there had been a permit issued, and as far as we've
researched, there has not been, to this date, one issued. We are
still, now... we now have moved inside the project, within the
perimeter of the property, where the sidewalks are, to safely
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secure the rights of our members from the public access. We have
a program of why it is important for officials in supervision -
all right? - and management levels, and field engineers, etc., to
push so hard - all right? - in regards to cutting the budget,
staying within the budget - right? - and affecting the work
force, the average Joe out there - all right? - who has to go to
work for a living and has to pay taxes in this community, and why
it's important for these supervisors to keep their wages low.
They've got a 25 percent incentive as a bonus, to keep... you
know, to keep the. project within budget, and any additional
savings that they make. You also have a statement, an article...
well, you don't have that in your package; I have an article here
which at one time, before August 4th meeting, they came out in
the Miami Herald by writer, Herald staff writer, Dion Thompson,
that they went over to the Overtown's Advisory Board, and they
made promises in regards to the Overtown Advisory Board, that the
percentages were even going to be higher than what they are
reflected in this Minority Participation Agreement. They
reflected that there will be 25 percent Black participation, 25
percent Latin participation, and 17 percent women participation,
on this particular project, in order for them to, basically,
reach an agreement with the neighborhood. That agreement is not
being reflected in the Minority Participation Agreement either.
Those are my comments, for the moment, in regards to the
allegations that we are making, Honorable Mayor and
Commissioners.
Mr. Dawkins: OK, thank you. Mr. Benjamin?
Mr. Thomas D. Benjamin: -Good afternoon. My name is Thomas
Benjamin. I reside at 18731 Northwest 23rd Court, and I have a
business at 1277 Northwest 54th Street. I'm here this morning to
protest the disparate and capricious treatment of the Miamarina
plumbing contract. I have documentation here that I was the low
bidder, and most responsive low bidder. On 9/16/86, in their bid
documents, on their form and their letterhead, I bid $710,000 for
the contract. The next bidder was $720,000; you had $723,000,
$763,000. In the bid documents they required a letter of intent
from a bonding company, to be in compliance. I have copies of
the letters of intent, which, in form, the Authority, or Linbeck,
says that my bonding company was not acceptable to them. The
specification clearly states that a 100 percent Payment and
Performance Bond - they did not specify a particular company.
The same way that they specified a $5,000,000 umbrella policy for
insurance, they could have done the same thing with the type of
bond they want. I don't investigate bonding companies; I buy
bonds. In addition to that, they also said that they reduced the
amount of insurance from a $5,000,000 umbrella policy to a
$2,000,000. If they gave my competitor that opportunity, why not
myself? On 9/26/86, they asked for a verbal quote on a possible
item that they may utilize, which is ten days after the written
quote. On 10/31/86, they asked for additional quotes, verbal
quotes, which had no specifications or documentation for it.
Now, it's my understanding that this job was bidded under the
Section 212.057, which is the taxation and financing of the
Sports Authority. Also, in their doc... if that be the case,
that means there are public funds involved. If that be also the
case, that means that this bid is also subject to the public
rule - public bid opening rule - which states that you can't
alter or change the bid after the fact. My question is...
Mayor Suarez: Let me ask the City Attorney that, if she can
answer off the top of her head: would it be subject to the
public bidding rules of the State, the bidding of subcontractors
by Decoma on that site, by virtue of the involvement of public
funds?
Mrs. Dougherty: No.
Mayor Suarez: Why not, if there are public funds being used?
He's citing a section of Florida Statutes - which I'm sure you
have memorized. 87-272.
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Mr. Dawkins: The only time that public bidding requirements are
required, is when the public body is actually doing the bidding.
Mayor Suarez: Not when there's use of public funds, as here,...
Mr. Dawkins: No.
Mayor Suarez: ... for approximately 85 percent of the entire
budget of the arena?
Mr. Dawkins: You know,...
Mrs. Dougherty: Not unless you require it in some sort of a
contract.
Mayor Suarez: Yeah, we should have.
Mr. Dawkins: Let me say this, though. All right, I have another
complaint - pardon me, Tom - from a structural company, and his
complaint is: "(a) sealed sub -bids will be received by Linbeck
Construction Corporation, Miami, Florida; opening of sub -bids
will be private. I feel that the private bid openings is
contrary to law." How can you tell me that you're shooting
straight up, when you have me bid, and you go in behind closed
doors, and open the bid, Lucia?
Mayor Suarez: Is it a fair statement, following up on
Commissioner Dawkins' question, to assume that if they refuse to
do it openly, that we can almost have a presumption of bad faith?
They specified that they want sealed bids, and yet they don't
want to open them up in public.
Mrs. Dougherty: I'm sorry, I didn't hear the first part.
Mr. Dawkins: OK, a sealed... now, this is from Haddon
Enterprise, Inc., who is a structural steel company, who bid on
the structural steel. One of his complaints is that Linbeck said
they wanted sealed sub -bids, and they would receive them, OK?
But then he said opening of sub -bids would be private. How can
you ask me to submit a - in good faith - to submit a bid, sealed,
and then tell me you're going behind the doors and open it?
Mrs. Dougherty: Mr. Commissioner, there was an Authority member
represented at all of the openings of the bids.
Mr. Dawkins: All right, you draft in for me, please, legislation
to ensure that in any other bid, anybody bidding on with the City
of Miami that... well, how can we get people in there? That's
what I need to know. Because this... I mean, this gentleman says
this; I've got another statement here from another person that
says that they've been done unfairly. Go ahead, Tom.
Min. Dougherty: We required it in the contract.
Mr. Dawkins: We required it?That it be an open bid?
Mrs. Dougherty: No, that the...
Mr. Dawkins: Be a sealed bid?
Mrs. Dougherty: In the future, we can require it in the
contract.
Mr. Dawkins: OK, OK, thank you.
Mr. Thomas Benjamin: Well, then, my question still is, then,
since it's not under the public bid opening - in the contract
here, between Miami Sports and Exhibition Authority and Linbeck
Construction, it states here, in section 8.1, page 815: "Florida
and local laws prevail. This agreement shall be governed by the
laws of the State of Florida," which means you cannot alter thl ..,
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bid after they are open. Linbeck stated emphatically, I was low
bidder, on the 16th. Sixty, 90 days later, somehow or another,
I've been disqualified for various reasons. I have documentation
here that I complied with their bid documents, and I was...
Mayor Suarez: Let me say...
Mr. Thomas Benjamin: ... ten thousand dollars low.
Mayor Suarez: Let me say one thing. Even if it were not
illegal, I think it is a presumption of bad faith on their part,
to have changed, verbally, the sealed bids, and I'm going to act
accordingly, for myself, and I believe it may be the consensus of
this Commission. But go ahead.
Mr. Thomas Benjamin: But Mr. Mayor, in addition to that...
Mayor Suarez: Even if it's... well, when it says it's subject to
the laws of the State of Florida - all of our contracts are
subject to the laws of the State of Florida, but as applied to
the particular circumstances of this matter; so, it may not be
that... the City Attorney tells us...
Mrs. Dougherty: Mr. Mayor, you should know that we are
investigating all of these allegations at this present time.
Mayor Suarez: OK. Go ahead.
Mr. Thomas Benjamin: I take issue with "allegations" - I'm
speaking fact. What has transpired here has been capricious and
disparate. Now, the intent of the Commission, whether it's
implied by the letter or not, we've been had. On one side we've
got the Latins being hung, on this side we've got the Blacks.
Who are we reserving the middle for, another minority? What I'm
saying is, I seek justice here; I seek relief. I have been had.
I am the low bidder. Linbeck has stated that.
(APPLAUSE)
Mayor Suarez: Thank you for your presentation.
Mr. Dawkins: Mr. Mayor, I'd like to suggest that we have the Law
Department and our representative to the Sports Authority
investigate all these allegations, along with some I will be
presenting, and that Linbeck be made aware of these allegations.
And if it's the Commission's will, that Linbeck report back here
on the 31st of March, or April the 9th, whichever this Commission
seers fit, to answer these allegations. I'm going to add another
one before I close it, and that is: I have two paychecks here,
from Linbeck, and I don't know what the Craft Code 150 is, but
whatever the Craft Code 150 is, we have where one guy worked 35
hours, and he received $355 for 35 hours. Well, with a little,
simple arithmetic, that's $10 an hour. I have another one here,
Craft Code 150, the gentleman worked five hours, and he received
430. With a little simple arithmetic, five times six is 30.
Now, I can't understand how Linbeck got two crafts which is -
whatever 150 is, I don't care if it's picking up paper...
Mayor Suarez: Is it the same code? You said the same code?
Mr. Dawkins: Sure, um-hmm, same code! See - 150, 35 hours,
$355; 150, five hours, $30. And I'd like... so these are the
things...
Mayor Suarez: Let's introduce those into the record, and that
they do reflect the same exact Craft Code under both paychecks -
pay stubs.
Mr. Dawkins: And I would like to move that we ask the Manager
and everybody, to investigate this, and have Linbeck back here,
and understand... I want everybody to understand, we've got no
quarrels at all with the people trying to get the franchise forS7—= ;.
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the basketball team. We're going to see that this stadium is
built, even if Linbeck walks off it, I can get enough craft union
men, and non -crafts, to go in and finish it. We don't have no
problem with completing it. We've got enough crafts in the City
of Miami to complete an arena - we don't have to go out of the
City of Miami.
(APPLAUSE)
Mayor Suarez: Please.
Mr. Dawkins: So, we don't have any problems with completing the
stadium and have it ready, if the N.B.A. so desires of awarding
us a franchise. We'll be ready. But I think that these are some
things that I'm concerned about, and I'm really concerned, in
fact, this whole Commission is concerned, is that if we don't get
a handle on outside laborers taking the money out of the City of
Miami, when we move into Park West/Overtown, local laborers are
not going to be able to work,...
Mayor Suarez: That's right.
Mr. Dawkins: ... because we have not set up any guidelines to
ensure that individuals who bid will get the job. Now, we had
one lady who came in and bid on structural steel, and we asked
questions, and the White guy answered them. She was Black and
she was supposed to be the minority person. And finally we asked
one question, he said, "Well, I have to ask my partner," and we
said "Well, why not ask your partner - she's sitting here?" She
don't know no more about structural steel that we do; but because
we have not legislated legislation to ensure that Miller Dawkins,
coming in as an electrician, cannot come in with an electrical
contractor, and be the token, and they get away with the money.
So, these are the things that I'm concerned about, and at the
next meeting, on... which date do we want a hearing?
Mayor Suarez: You said the 31st, March 31st, right?
Mr. Dawkins: Thirty-first OK, J.L.?
Mr. Plummer: Well, I think we've also got a discussion on the
13th, don't we, about the Sports Authority membership in general?
Mr. Dawkins: So, why, not do it on the 13th?
Mr. Plummer: Well, if they can have it ready by then.
Mr. Dawkins: OK, OK, well...
Mr. Plummer: At least we can have an update.
Mayor Suarez: Can the City make a report back to us by the 13th?
Will you be ready? I hope so, because we... the Commission's
been getting a heck of a lot of evidence, and it should have made
it a lot easier, and they should be able to respond to it.
Mr. Dawkins: OK, so moved.
Mayor Suarez: So moved. And seconded?
Mr. Plummer: Yeah.
Mayor Suarez: Any discussion? Call the roll.
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The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Dawkins,
who moved its adoption:
MOTION NO. 87-213
A MOTION DIRECTING THE ADMINISTRATION TO
INVESTIGATE ALLEGED DISCRIMINATION PRACTICES
BY THE LINBECK COMPANY DURING CONSTRUCTION OF
THE MIAMI ARENA SITE; FURTHER DIRECTING THE
LAW DEPARTMENT AND THE CITY MANAGER TO MEET
WITH REPRESENTATIVES OF THE LINBECK COMPANY
TO MAKE THEM AWARE OF THESE ALLEGATIONS AND
TO REQUEST THAT THEY (LINBECK) APPEAR BEFORE
THE CITY COMMISSION IN ORDER TO RESPOND TO
SAID ALLEGATIONS; FINALLY REQUESTING THE CITY
MANAGER TO HAVE A REPORT READY ON THIS ISSUE
FOR THE CITY COMMISSION AT THE MEETING
PRESENTLY SCHEDULED FOR MARCH 13TH.
'Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the motion was
passed and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Mayor Suarez: Would you include the transcript, too, Madame City
Clerk, in the documents. Counselor?
Mr. Dawkins: And you guys get together with the Manager, and
find out how they want to include you in, and get your data. Go
ahead, counselor.
Mr. Joseph Kaplan: Yes, very quickly; I'm not going to "gild the
lily" in respect to the arguments already made, but let me just
say... my name is Joseph Kaplan. I represent the Miami Building
& Construction Trades Council. We are completely in accord with
the position of the Carpenters' Union, and Tommy Benjamin, the
_ contractor who bid on the plumbing work. We believe that there•
is clear discrimination against the Black contractor on one hand,
and local employees and Hispanic employees on the other hand. In
addition, we are totally opposed to the fact that there is no
prevailing wage determination made on this job. This City must,
in the future, address the question of returning to the issue of
a prevailing wage concept on your jobs. The wage disparity paid
is absurd. Also,* for the edification of the record, may I
suggest that the documents described as the Miamarina contract,
between the Authority and Decoma, specifically describes, on page
eight and nine, that there's got to be a system for bidding,
which is described as both "fair" and "to the lowest bidder." I
make reference to paragraphs (a) and (f) on pages A-8 and A-9.
The bidding procedure must be both...
Mayor Suarez: Those two standards could be enough, as criteria,
to determine that what was done in your case was not proper.
Mr. Kaplan: Clearly, clearly. And we concur, and we would
like...
Mayor Suarers Because it's got to be fair, and to the lowest
bidder;...
Mr. Kaplans And to the lowest bidder.
Mayor Suarez: ... and you were the lowest bidder, and it's not
clear that it was fair, how you, all of a sudden, were not the 8%'=2
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Mr. Kaplan: Thank you.
Mayor Suarez: Thank you, counselor. (APPLAUSE) Quick one?
Mr. James Hayden Johnson, Jr.: I'll do this real quick. My
names is James Hayden Johnson, Jr. I live at 3025 Blaine Street,
In Coconut Grove. My office is at 3244 West Trade, in the Grove.
I am a steel erector, and represent a couple of other steel
erection companies. In the... what was brought up before,
Linbeck... this is something, which I think everybody has a
letter, and I've given one to Mr. Dawkins and around, and I'll
talk to you, because you've covered it all. The one thing is
that Linbeck did send me back a letter, and also Helena, which is
the steel erector, is owned as a solely -owned subsidiary of
Linbeck, which is complete. So, I'll just stop with that and
won't go into it, except for one item, and this is to do with...
Mayor Suarez: They did admit that themselves, in correspondence,
that it was a solely -owned subsidiary?
Mr. Johnson: Um...
Mr. Dawkins: No, I gave it here.
Mayor Suarez: I know Commissioner Dawkins...
Mr. Johnson (OFF MIKE): Yeah, he has a letter that I got back
from them.
Mayor Suarez: OK, very good.
Mr. Johnson: The only other thing is, like, I'm union and.I
didn't realize that all of this was happening, but in some of the
articles, they were talking about union people - Helena is also
union. So, it's not really the fact that this is union/nonunion,
because...
Mayor Suarez: Right.
Mr. Johnson: ... their own, solely -owned subsidiary, Helena, is
an Internationa... belongs to International.
Mayor Suarez: Let me just hold you on that. Mr. City Manager,
for Overtown/Park West, on future projects, at the very least can
we have clarified, I think, that it's the consensus of this
Commission that a contractor cannot award a bid to a solely -owned
subsidiary, unless he has followed open bidding processes of the
City, and make sure we build that into any future awards of
contracts?
Mr. Johnson: We had to supply them our license - like, I have a
General Contractor's license, plus our licenses for the City, to
be able to do, and I'm sure, and I've checked, and Helena and
these people do not have the licenses required, and at bid time
you had to have these licenses. And at bid time, if you were
using a minority as part of your participation, which I would
have subbed some work to some locally, you had to have that in
there, which do not exist. And the thing is, when you have union
versus nonunion - I could be anything that I wanted to be; my
main reason for being union is because of the benefit packages,
which I had brought up a long time ago when the Bayside project
came up. If they're paying $6 and $10 an hour, and there's no
benefit package, our hospitals are going to be overburdened.
Just the ironwork alone is going to be over 30,000 man-hours of
labor. In Jackson Memorial Hospital, if these people, which they
will bring at least 60 percent of their labor in town, from out
of town, and right now the way that the ironworkers' new contract
is, they could conceivably bring in all of their people from out
of town. If this condition happens, and they're paying a certain
wage, our hospitals are going to be burdened with all of this,
and then it's like who's going to cover it, except for the local
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people, whose companies have health and welfare programs? And
this is, if nothing else, this is an important part. Thank you.
Mayor Suarez: Thank you, Mr. Johnson.
Mr. John Lindstrom: Mr. Mayor, Mr. Commissioners,...
Mayor Suarez: Quick one.
Mr. Lindstrom: John Lindstrom, with the... business manager for
the Plumbers' Local. I would ask the Commissioners to go one
step further, seeing that Tommy Benjamin was done wrong on the
job, that we hold up Falcon's work on the job until we can have
some kind of investigation. In construction, once you get on a
job site and you start working, it's awful hard to get somebody
off the job. Falcon has not been on the job, has not performed
any work, and I would ask the Commissioners to hold up that work
until two weeks, when you meet again, and you can have an
investigation.
Mayor Suarez: Thank you for your statement. (6-SECOND SILENCE)
I guess no one picked up on your suggestion.
Mr. Dawkins: Yeah, but see, all right, I can't be hypocritical.
I just said that I am not going to stop this arena from being
built. So, now, if I say for two weeks we stop the plumbing,...
Mayor Suarez: Sure.
Mr. Dawkins: ... and the guy tells me he can't complete...
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Blaisdell.
Mr. Dawkins: ... the arena, then I... I mean...
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Blaisdell, if we were to do what has been
recommended, would it do serious harm?
Mr. John Blaisdell: Yes, sir.
Mr. Plummer: Thank you.
Mayor Suarez: One other question. There was a suggestion just
made (INAUDIBLE COMMENT OFF MIKE) - wait, wait, John - that in
midstream it's almost impossible to change a subcontractor.
Suppose this Commission were to find that bad faith was... that
they approached this in bad faith, the subcontracting of his
particular one, and maybe some others: couldn't we force them to
change subcontractors in midstream? I know that it would be some
disruption, and all that.
Mr. Blaisdell: Legal counsel -has advised that if, as a result of
the investigation, we do determine that there was any fraudulent
activity, that we can then... we have certain remedies.
Mr. Plummer: Well,...
Mayor Suarez: You might find us more creative than you're used
to seeing in...
Mr. Lindstrom: OK, but in deference to Mr. Blaisdell, there has
been no plumbing done on job, and it's not in a stage where any
plumbing needs to be done.
Mayor Suarez: Well, so much the better, then; it's easier, then.
Mr. Dawkins: Oh well, that's...
Mayor Suarez: So much the better, then.
Mr. Lindstrom: I mean, but he..-.
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Mr. Plummer: Well, but wait a minute, wait a minute,..
Mr. Lindstrom: But he said it's going to hold the job up, and it
will not hold the job up, and I think some of the people in the
industry...
Mayor Suarez: Well, but we're... see, we're reaching a
conclusion on one side of the argument. We're pretty sure where
we're headed, but we need to hear from Linbeck.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Blaisdell.
Mr. Blaisdell: Yes, sir.
Mr.
Plummer: The Mayor
keeps asking what can "we," referring to
the
Commission. Do we,
the Commission, have
any power, or are we
at
the mercy, as we Lave
been, of the Sports
Authority?
Mr. Blaisdell: In connection with the Minority Participation
Agreement, enforcement of rights, you are a party to the
agreement, so your rights and remedies are exclusive in that
agreement. You can enter into arbitration If you feel that there
were bad faith exercised...
Mr. Plummer: We, the Commission?
Mr. Blaisdell: You, the City of Miami, right. That's correct.
Mr. Plummer: OK.
Mr. Blaisdell: Or the Authority, or jointly, or collectively.
Mr. Plummer: All right.
Mr. Blaisdell: Any one party can do it.
Mayor Suarez: OK.
Mr. Dawkins: OK, well, if we enter into arbitration, and it's
found that, "Let them work," and find that they were wrong, can
Mr. Benjamin sue for damages?
Mr. Blaisdell: I don't know what Mr. Benjamin's rights or
reliefs may be. I can tell you that the Minority Participation
Agreement indicates that in the event that an arbitrator rules in
our favor, that there... I think... believe for the first 30 days
there is a penalty of $500, and for every day after 30 days
there's a penalty of about $1,000 per day.
Mayor Suarez: So we're going to make it painful, if we reach
that conclusion.
Mr. Blaisdell: Exactly. And those payments cannot be...
Mr. Dawkins: And so they can stay on the job and work; they just
have to pay Mr. Benjamin $1,000 a day until they complete the
job.
Mr. Blaisdell: No, the payment...
Mr. Dawkins: Until they complete the job.
Mr. Blaisdell: Commissioner, the payments are to us, to the
party initiating the action. If the City initiated...
Mr. Dawkins: I have no problem with voting that we give it to
Mr. Benjamin,. because he's the one that's been wronged, and not
the City of Miami - I don't have a problem with that.
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Mr. Blaisdell: That's your prerogative to do that, sir.
Mr. Dawkins: That's right, OK, no problem.
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Mayor Suarez: OK, thank you, John. Item twenty...
Mr. Johnsons Can I just make one other statement? Before this
all started, the Mayor did write a letter, trying to keep Linbeck
properly conducting the bids, because the article which...
Mayor Suarez: Unfortunately, we sent it the day before they
opened the...
Mr. Johnson: Right. We sent them... right.
Mayor Suarez: So, you alerted me almost at the right moment, and
then Commissioner Dawkins began all of this investigation, and
now we have some pretty good, hard facts to go on. At the time,
It was just the allegation that they were not going to do it
properly. But you're right, we did warn them with that letter.
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7-A. NAME MILLER DAWKINS AS CHAIRMAN OF THE AD HOC MINORITY
ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR MIAMI ARENA.
7-B. NO SPORTS ARENA CONTRACTS ARE TO BE SIGNED UNLESS THE
DEVELOPERS MEETING THE MINORITY HIRING GOALS SET BY CITY.
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Mr. Dawkins: Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Suarez: Yes, Commissioner.
Mr. Dawkins: Mr. Mayor, I've got two emergency items here I'd
like to bring up.
Mayor Suarez: Please.
Mr. Dawkins: I think that this Commission must be made aware of
the failure of Linbeck Company to carry out the intent of this
Commission.
Mayor Suarez: On the Sports Arena?
Mr. Dawkins: Yes, on the Sports Arena. The intent of this
Commission was that local people in this community would gather
money from working on this project, OK? Last week, I asked for a
tally of what was happening, and, Mr. Manager, through you to Mr.
Blaisdell, as of last week you had no signed minority contracts,
and no idea of what you were going to do. Now, all week, the
administration worked with Linbeck. What do you have this
morning... no, first I'd like to know, what's the total cost of
this project?
Mr. John Blaisdell: The total construction cost is estimated to
be $33,435,000.
Mr. Dawkins: All right. So now, so 17 percent of 33 is what -
like $4,000,000?
Mr. Blaisdell: It's approximately $5,600,000.
Mr. Dawkins: OK, $5,000,000. OK. How many... how much work are
you proposing to award to women this morning?
Mr. Blaisdell: But can I make a statement?
Mr. Dawkins: Yes, go right ahead, Mr. Blaisdell.
Mr. Blaisdell: Under the $33,000,000, that includes...
Mr. Dawkins: A hundred and thirty-three million?
Mr. Blaisdell: No, out of the $33,000,000, total cost - that
includes contingency fee and a lot of things that a subcontractor
or supplier cannot participate in.
Mr. Dawkins: OK, wait a minute. Wait, now. If the
subcontractor cannot compete in it, that means it goes to the
majority. See, I'm not going to get... see, that's why I want
this Commission to understand what's happening here, see. You
can't take out damn near all the choice projects, and then tell
_ me, "Now, you take what's left, and I'm going to give you your 17
percent of that." The intent of this Commission - and if I'm in
error, one of the Commissioners will correct me - was that 17
percent of the total contract would go to women, 17 percent of.13 —
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the total construction contract would go to Blacks, and 17
percent of the total contract would go to Blacks and Latins - I 87- OQr:
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mean Cubans. So, now, don't tell me... I mean, don't tell me now
that you took the elevator, because Blacks can't do it and no
Cuban's got an elevator company, ,and gave it to the Whites, so
now that brings it down to $30,000,000; and we took the elevator
shafts because we've got no Blacks or Cubans or ladies who've got
the elevator shafts, so we take that out, and that brings it down
to 20; and we finally get down to $13 , 000, 000, and now "you are
entitled to 17 percent of that" - no, that wasn't our intent, OK?
And I want to make sure, and I'm doing this here because I don't
want this to happen in Overtown/Park West. So, now, how much...
so, you have sat down, you and everyone, and you've come up with
a figure. How much is in the stages of being negotiated to
the ladies now, as of today?
Mr. Blaisdell: For the ladies... for females?
Mr. Dawkins: Yes. I guess they...
Mr. Blaisdell: Two million, seven hundred and eighty-four
thousand dollars. Two million, seven eight -four, six hundred.
Mr. Dawkins: Two million. About half of what they're entitled
to, right?
Mr. Blaisdell: Under the...
Mr. Dawkins: Of five million...
Mr. Blaisdell: Yes, sir, under the circumstances you just
described, that would be correct.
Mr. Dawkins: All right, so that... but at least th3y've got two
million, all right. Now, what do the Hispanics have?
Mr. Blaisdell: I'm sorry, I was incorrect. It's $2,042,000; I
was reading the wrong line.
Mr. Dawkins: All right. What do the Hispanics have?
Mr. Blaisdell: Two million, five-c-five, six fifty-two.
Mr. Dawkins: Out of five million. OK, what do the Blacks have?
Mr. Blaisdell: One million, two-o-four, two eighteen.
Mr. Dawkins: Out of five million. OK. Now, I'll let you make a
statement, of any kind, if you've got anything to say.
Mr. Plummer: Well, let me ask a question.
Mr. Dawkins: Go right ahead, J.L.
Mr. Plummer: Any one of the three categories - were there more
bidders than what you are awarding? Let's use the women; I think
that's the aspect where it's been the most problem. Did you have
more women minority bidders, that were not winners - acceptable
ones?
Mr. Blaisdell: Let me just give you an overview of the quick bid
process. Six hundred and seventy-five total subcontractors and
suppliers were identified. Out of those, 276 were minorities.
Out of those minorities, 27 bid; that's aggregate Latin - I'm
sorry, Hispanic - female, and Blacks. Out of the 27, you had 18
Black submissions, 5 Hispanic submissions, and 6 female
submissions.
Mr. Plummer: OK, the question I'm asking...
Mr. Blaisdell: I'm sorry, Commissioner. w/
Mr. Plummer: The question that I'm asking: did all six of the
women bid on the same project?
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Mr. Blaisdell: Not on the same discipline of work, no; not on
the same scope of work, no.
Mr. Plummer: All right. Were there any of the women minority
who did not receive an award?
Mr. Blaisdell: Yes.
Mr. Plummer: How many out of the six?
Mr. Blaisdell: I believe that there's only been two awarded, so,
by attrition, it would be four.
Mr. Plummer: So, in other words, those four will not receive
anything?
Mr. Blaisdell: At this point in time, Commissioner, that's
correct.
Mr. Plummer: All right. Did they bid against each other?
Mr. Blaisdell: I'm not quite sure I know the answer to that
question, whether... I don't think so; I think they were all in
different disciplines. I don't think you had a female -owned
company in one scope of work.
Mr. Plummer: All right. I guess, really, what Commissioner
Dawkins is saying - I'm trying to understand - there is the goals
that have been set, of 17, 17, and 17. What are you talking
about, as to the total scope of construction, not contingencies,
not anything like that, that no one will actually bid on -
contingency, nobody bids on, of course - so, what are you down
to, as to actual construction cost?
Mr. Blaisdell: To the best of our ability, we've been able to
Identify approximately $16,380,000.
Mr. Plummer: All right, so half of that, roughly, is eight.
Mr. Blaisdell: That's correct.
Mr. Plummer: OR.
Mr. Blaisdell: Fifty-one percent of that is $8,353,000.
Mr. Plummer: OR, so call it, for round figures, eight, all
right? And you're telling us this morning that out of the total
of bids ready to be awarded, that you have five...?
Mr. Blaisdell: Five million, seven fifty-two, seven forty.
Mr. Plummer: All right. Now, is there other bids yet to be
awarded?
Mr. Blaisdell: Yes, sir.
Mr. Plummer: OR.
Mr. Blaisdell: Out of that $16,000,000...
Mr. Plummer: Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, now, don't get ahead of me.
Of the $5,000,000 that is going to be awarded to minorities, how
much is yet to be awarded, that is not being addressed, in what
the bids have been calculated, tallied, and are ready for award?
Mr. Blaisdell: The numbers that I have just represented to the
Commission indicate the tally to date. There are currently
approximately $3.7 million of work, scope of work, that is out
for bid, which has not been awarded per se. It has not returned
back to the contractor and to the Authority for evaluation.
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Mr. Plummer: Is that all that is left?
Mr. Blaisdell: In the... in the... yes, that's correct, that's
all that's left.
Mr. Plummer: In other words, that's yet to be awarded?
Mr. Blaisdell: That, plus there is some non-food service,
furnitures, fixtures, and equipment...
Mr. Plummer: Well, that's not the construction. I think he's
speaking to the construction at this time.
Mr. Blaisdell: Construction, there's 3.7, $3.7 million.
Mr. Plummer: OK, then it has to be indicated that 100 percent of
that is not going to go minorities, under the normal
circumstances. So, the question, then, remains, as he is
figuring and I'm figuring, there's not going to be met the goal
of $8,000,000.
Mr. Blaisdell: Potentially, that's correct.
Mr. Plummer: And what is being done to address that goal?
Mr. Blaisdell: Let me give you...
Mayor Suarez: As you answer that, would you tell us if our
committee, that we set up, has met yet - the Minority
Participation Committee, because I have a suggestion to make,
that we incorporate into that committee, to give a little teeth
to it, one of the Commissioners, and see if Commissioner Dawkins
would be willing to serve on it. That's the only way that...
Mrs. Kennedy: Let me just state, for the record - John, let me
ask you: do you know how many contracts have been awarded to
women since this ordinance?
Mr. Dawkins: None.
Mrs. Kennedy: One percent.
Mr. Plummer: Two, he says.
Mrs. Kennedy: No, total.
Mr. Plummer: Two contracts.
Mrs. Kennedy: Total, total in the City - only one percent. Now,
of course, women -owned companies are going to be smaller= of
course, women -owned companies are going to have less experience;
but these are things that should be taken into consideration.
And, Mr. Manager, you promised me and you promised this
Commission, that you would go out into the community and talk to
these groups of women. Now, what have you done about that?
Mr. Dawkins: Let me give you something else, Commissioner
Kennedy, to put with that. And if I'm in error, Mr. Blaisdell
will correct me. The two contracts signed with ladies - women -
are not signed as ladies. They are Black. A Black Jamaican -
now, how she got to be Black... if you went to Jamaica and called
her Black, she'd have a hemorrhage. OK? And the other one is a
Black female. And they're not in as ladies, see? They're in as
Blacks.
Mr. Plummer: Well, but wait a minute, now. In all fairness, if
you have 680-some potential bidders,...
Mr. Dawkins: Om-hmm.
Mr. Plummer: ... and you put out the RFP's, and, still.using the 827
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women as the example, you only had six women companies to bid -
John, ...
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Mr. Blaisdell: Yes, air.
Mr. Plummer: ... of the six women bidders, how much money did
they actually bid on?
Mr. Dawkins: And in what disciplines?
Mr. Plummer: What was the scope of the potential that they...
Mr. Dawkins: And in what disciplines, J.L.? What disciplines
did they... what trades?
Mr. Plummer: OK,...
Mr. Blaisdell: OK, let me identify...
Mr. Plummer: In other words, were they, in effect, going after
$4,000,000 worth of contracts, $1,000,000 worth of contracts -
what was... if every one of those women were successful, how much
would they have received in work?
Mr. Blaisdell: Can I modify your request a little bit, because
of the lack of information? The three women that are under
consideration for award, which is: Falcon Chemical for the
plumbing, represents approximately $700,000; the second woman -
she's a White female - the second consideration for a female
award is to Pompano Masonry,...
Mr. Dawkins: Pompano?
Mr. Blaisdell: ... which is a White female -owned...
Mr. Dawkins: Pompano?
Mr. Blaisdell: That's correct, that's...
Mr. Dawkins: Nothing in Miami - Pompano?
Mr. Blaisdell: No, that's... the name of the firm is Pompano
Masonry.
Mr. Dawkins: OK.
Mr. Blaisdell: OK? They're out of Broward. And that represents
approximately $1,100,000. The third company which potentially
bid was a precast erection firm, that the bid was approximately
$375,000. The other three firms... (ASIDE) I'm not quite sure;
which... do you remember what they are? But those are the three
that are under consideration right now. Two have actually be"
recommended for award, and letter of intent have been prepared
and mailed to the firms. That represents approximately almost a _
million... million two... million nine, almost $2,000,000.
Mr. Dawkins: What contracts have been signed... I mean,
contracts have been signed with what companies as of now?
Mr. Blaisdell: Usually, subcontracts take anywhere from zero to
120 days for execution.
Mr. Dawkins: No, no, no. Give me the names of the companies
that subcontracts have already been signed with on this job.
Mr. Blaisdell: There are two contracts.
who's done foundation excavation work,...
Mr. Dawkins: Um-hmm.
One is with Bob Young,
Mr. Blaisdell: ... and the second one is with Jaffer, who does
drainage wells on the site. Sr1...9-01r
Mr.
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Mr. Blaisdell: Jaffer - J-a-f-f-e-r,
Mr. Dawkins: Is there a Xavier, Inc., working on this job?
Mr. Blaisdell: Yes, sir.
Mr. Dawkins: Is the contract signed with them?
Mr. Blaisdell: Not to my knowledge, sir, no.
Mr. Dawkins: Well, how are they working on the job, then?
Mr. Blaisdell: They have a letter of intent, which is not
unusual in the magnitude of this job.
Mr. Dawkins: Is Helena working on this job?
Mr. Blaisdell: Yes, sir.
Mr. Dawkins: Gentlemen, now... Madame City Attorney, do not miss
this, because I want to see how... what this is. It says, and
I'm reading from Dun & Bradstreet, it says: "Linbeck
Construction Company, subsidiary of Linbeck Corporation, Houston,
Texas. Related companies: the following are also wholly owned
by the parent company," which is Linbeck. Number one is P & L
Equipment Companies, wholly owned by Linbeck; Irving
Construction, totally owned by Linbeck; Helena, Inc., totally
owned by Linbeck; Lucia, Inc., totally owned by Linbeck, and
Xavier, owned .by Linbeck. Now, City Attorney, how can they bid
on contracts with themselves, and award themselves the contract?
Explain that to me, Madame City Attorney.
(APPLAUSE)
Mrs. Dougherty: There's nothing illegal about it.
Mr. Dawkins: Nothing illegal about it. But it's damn immoral,
huh? OK, you see, this is how we...
Mr. Plummer: Well, wait, wait a minute, wait a minute. Madame
City Attorney, I'm assuming you're familiar with the ordinance
for that, I'm sure. But they also signed an agreement with this
City. Now, maybe there's nothing illegal, but is there a
compliance with the contract, excluding the ordinance?
Mrs. Dougherty: You're talking about the Minority Participation
portion of the contract.
Mr. Plummer: The contract that Linbeck signed with this City, in
reference to compliance, in the Minority section. That was in
their contract, separate from...
Mrs. Dougherty: That's correct.
Mr. Plummer: ... the ordinance. Now, yes, it might not be
illegal, as to, maybe, filing criminal charges, but does their
contract with the City become possibly breached - I'm sorry, with
the Sports Authority?
Mrs. Dougherty: There's no breach of...
Mr. Plummer: Is there a potential breach?
Mrs. Dougherty: There's no potential breach of contract. The
way that our contract is structured is that if they do not have a
good faith effort to comply with the contract, that is 17, 17,
and 17, and we determine that there has been no good faith effort
to reach that goal, then the remedy for us is in arbitration,
under the contract.
Mr. Plummer: But here again, now, Commissioner Dawkins is... Al�Iiill�r:;
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Mrs. Dougherty: Therefore, there's no real breach of contract by
reason of this. It may be an indication of bad faith, is what
I'm saying. There's no breach of contract, per se.
Mr. Dawkins: Well, wouldn't it be fraud if I were to put out a
contract that leads you to believe that you're t:idding on a job
that I know you're not going to get, because I've got it myself?
Would that be fraud?
Mrs. Dougherty: Well, I assume that if other bidders were the
lowest qualified bidder, they would have been awarded the
contract, as opposed to Helena or Lucia Construction.
Mr. Dawkins: Well, I think your assumptions are incorrect.
Mr. Plummer: Well, let me...
Mr. Dawkins: OK, wait a minute, no, wait, J.L.
Mr. Plummer% Go ahead.
Mr. Dawkins: What was the. lowest bid on the work given to
Helena?
Mr. Blaisdell: Helena? Under the structural steel and deck
erection, Helena was the low qualified bidder.
Mr. Dawkins: OK, now I have a bid... qualified - OK, now, who
determined who was qualified?
Mr. Blaisdell: Through a recommendation by the contractor, and
approval...
Mr. Dawkins: OK, and who was the contractor?
Mr. Blaisdell: Linbeck Construction Corporation.
Mr. Dawkins: So, how in the hell are they going... I mean, so,
you're in a bagt
(LAUGHTER)
Mr. Blaisdell: Commissioner, we reviewed...
Mr. Dawkins: You're in a bag! See, you're boxed in. And the
lowest contractor who you say... no, I'm sorry, who Linbeck said
is unqualified, was $65,000 under them. So, now, they're
charging us $65,000, the Sports Authority, in order to say that
these people are not qualified, or not whatever, and they're
going to do the job for $65,000 more.
Mr. Plummer% Well, was that particular line of work put out to
bid?
Mr. Blaisdell: Yes, sir.
Mr. Plummer: And how many bids were there?
Mr. Blaisdell: Commissioner, the $65,000... Commissioner
Dawkins, the $65,000 difference in bid price which you are
referencing is the precast erection, where Helena and another
company, Jimrock, submitted a bid, and they currently have been
issued a letter of intent, indicating to them that if they can
bond and insure, pursuant to the contract documents, which, for
purposes of precast erection, is critical...
Mr. Dawkins: It's 12:00 o.'clock - let me see if I can bring this
to closure.
Mr. Plummer: Well, wait a minute, I haven't got an answer to my
question.
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Mr. Dawkins: Go ahead, J.L.
Mr. Plummer: On that particular phase, how many people bid on
that portion of the contract?
Mr. Blaisdell: Two.
Mr. Plummer: Two? Helena and another company?
Mr. Blaisdell: To the... I think... to the best of our ability
to tell you right now, we could come back to you with more
specific information, but I think it's to Helena and... (PAUSE)
Four.
Mr. Plummer: Four bid on it?
Mr. Blaisdell: I... hold on, let me get... (GOES OFF MIKE)
Mr. Plummer: Well, let me tell you what I think is the bottom
line. Is there anyone here from Linbeck?
Mr. Paul Sipes (OFF MIKE): Yes, I'm ---------
Mr. Plummer: Is the company's name Linebeck?
Mayor Suarez: Linbeck, Linbeck.
Mrs. Kennedy: Linbeck.
Mr. Plummer: Linbeck. And who is that representative?
NONE
Mr. Sipes: It's Mr. Paul Sipes, Vice President.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Sipes, are you present? - would you come to the
microphone for a minute, sir? For the record, we have to get
your name and mailing address, sir.
Mr. Sipes: Paul Sipes, with Linbeck Construction, P.O. Box
22500, Houston, Texas.
Mr. Plummer: All right, sir. For the record, your company
signed a contract with the City of... excuse me, with the Sports
Authority, understanding the goals to be reached in minority
participation, sir. It has been, this morning, determined - we
could be corrected in rounding off the numbers - that those goals
would be representing approximately $8,000,000 in minority
involvement. We are told by our in-house expert that you have
reached somewhere in the neighborhood of $5,000,000. What is the
intent of your company to fulfill your obligations to the
minority contract, sir? How do you plan on meeting those goals?
Mr. Sipes: The ordinance, sir, is a good faith effort to achieve
the goals, and we think we have exerted good faith effort to
achieve the goals, with the $5,000,000 participation.
Mr. Plummer: Of the other four companies, or two, or whatever,
since nobody has a direct answer, were there minorities in that
one work with the Helena organization - were there any companies
who bid that work that were minorities?
Mr. Sipes: In the precast erection, which, I think, is the
discussion,...
Mr. Plummers If that's... I don't know what it was for.
Mr. Sipes: There were four bidders, and one of them is a
minority -owned firm.
Mr. Plummer: Of the bids that were received, how much difference
was there between the low bid and the minority firm?
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Mr. Sipes: The minority firm has the low bid amount. They
cannot provide adequate insurance or bonding, and therefore we
ruled them not the low qualified bidder.
Mr. Plummer: Does part of your contract with the Sports
Authority mandate that they must be able to provide that?
Mr. Odio: I think we need to clarify that it is not with the
Sports Authority. Linbeck's contract is with Decoma, not with...
the contract is with Decoma.
Mr. Plummer: All right, then, OK.
Mr. Sipes: Commissioner, the... there's...
Mr. Plummer: What is our contract? The Sports Authority's
contract with Decoma - what does it call for?
Mr. Blaisdell: The Minority Participation Agreement is a
triparty agreement, between the Authority, Decoma, and the City,
OK? That details the minority participation requirements in the
arena project. The construction contract, which is the standard
operating guidelines for construction of the arena, which does
not detail any, issues in connection with minority participation -
OK? - is between Decoma and Linbeck...
Mr. Plummer: All right. Well, then...
Mr. Blaisdell: ... and as to certain provisions, the Authority
has approval.
Mr. Plummer: John, I understand what you're saying. So, than,
what we need is a representative here of Decoma.
E Mr. Blaisdell: I think Mr. McCrary is here representing Decoma.
_ Mr. Plummer: Mr. McCrary. As you know the rules, your name and
mailing address for the record, air, and how, in what capacity,
you represent Decoma.
Mr. Jesse J. McCrary, Jr.: My name is Jesse McCrary, 3050
Biscayne Boulevard, Miami, Florida. Commissioner, I represent...
I am general counsel to Decoma.
Mr. Plummer: All right, sir. Now, you have heard the question I
asked, erroneously, of Linbeck, because they have a contract with
your company. How do you intend to achieve the goals in the
remaining monies that are left? What is your company going to
propose to do?
Mr. McCrary: Commissioner, on yesterday, we met for
approximately nine hours with the Sports Authority and with
Linbeck. Out of the...
Mr. Plummer: "We," Decoma?
Mr. McCrary: You, sir.
Mr. Plummer: OK.
Mr. McCrary: In an attempt to rectify what Commissioner Dawkins
has raised as a very serious problem, and obviously it is a
serious one. Out of the approximately, I suppose it's $3.7
million left to be bid, we're trying to devise some way to ensure
that minorities get their fair share of that. It has been
suggested that possibly some of this work could be single -
sourced, in terms of minorities who could apply. It's also been
suggested that they be rabid. It's also been suggested, as a
third alternative, that the Sports Authority add an addendum to
the Minority Participation Agreement, and indicate some of it as
a set -aside, in order to fulfill the goals. That has not been
cast in concrete as yet. What we dio do yesterday, for nine
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those goals, as prescribed by this
Mr. Plummer: Why did Decoma wait until the horse was out of the
barn? What I mean is, they allowed the awarding of roughly
$12,000,000 to $13,000,000 in contracts, knowing fully well that
it remained only 3.7, where there was not any chance that that
could be achieved.
Mr. McCrary: Commissioner, I... and respectfully, I'm not trying
to shift any blame; Decoma takes its lumps just as you give them.
When a contract...
Mr. Plummer: Well, I'm not giving them lumps, I'm asking
questions at this point. I'll give them the lumps, eventually.
Yes, sir, rest assured.
Mr. McCrary: Yes, sir, I know you will, Commissioner. When the
contract is "let," that is, it comes from Linbeck and goes to the
Sports Authority; and the Sports Authority has to sign off on it
as being a responsive bid or the one that they will accept,
Decoma, in the process, Commissioner, is really... Decoma really
is not in that process, but must take the responsibility, because
of its contractual relationship with the Sports Authority.
Mr. Plummer: And the City.
Mr. McCrary: And the City. We would admit, Mr. Plummer, that
probably we didn't watch the contracts as much as we should have.
Mr. Plummer: OK, that's spilled milk.
Mr. McCrary: Yes, air.
Mr. Plummer: Now, the question is, you say you are going to
propose these three items to.the Sports Authority, hopefully that
they will accept or ratify parts or all of what your
recommendations are.
Mr. McCrary: Not propose. What we did yesterday was
collectively discuss some alternative ways, and it was not a
proposal solely by Decoma, it was a result of an all -day
conference between us; I mean, some ideas came from Decoma, some
came from the City Attorney's office, some came from the Sports
Authority, as to how we could resolve it.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Blaisdell. You know, all of this is fine...
excuse me, all of this discussion is fine, but the bottom line
is, is containing within a budget. Now, I guess the neat
question has to be, are you confined to the restraints of the
budget, of what has been proposed and projected, and where are we
along those lines?
_ Mr. Blaisdell: The answer to your first question is yes, this
project has a very tight budget. The answer to the second
question is, we have currently, in the total tally, bottom line -
when we commenced this project, the outlook was less likely to be
favorable. Where we are right now is that we're pretty even on
being able to complete the project, with the funds that are
available.
Mr. Dawkins: Mr. McCrary.
Mr. McCrary: Yes, sir.
Mr. Dawkins: I suggested to Linbeck, three weeks ago, that they
get in touch with Mr. Dausch of Bayside, to see how we could
resolve this, what we've got, OK? 117-Zr
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Mr. Plummer: That's easy, if they put up a million dollars.
Mr. Dawkins: Now, what you have is beautiful, OK? But every one
of us sitting up here knows that any minority firm out here that
gets a bid, and goes in to negotiate with them, under the present
conditions, that they must provide a bond, will get nothing. OK?
Very few Black or small Cuban out there that can bond a
$5,000,000 job. Now, I wish you would find out from your client
if your client is willing to break these contracts down into
increments. If it's a $2,000,000 contract, then bond it at
$200,000. When a guy completes that phase of it, give him
another $200,000, and when he completes that phase of it, and
he's still bonded, give him another $200,000. Now, if they are
in "good faith," they will do this. But if they're still,
counselor, you know, going around in "bad faith," they're going
to come back here in a month and tell me, "I was going to give
this to A, B, C, D and 8, but they couldn't get bonded and
insurance," and I've gone through an exercise of futility. The
second thing, Mr. Manager, - stay there, counselor - I'm going to
say to you, through you, to Mr. Blaisdell: no more contracts
should be signed until you're satisfied that these minority goals
have been met. Now, I don't... I'm hoping that all of... and I
want to say, see, the victim in this is Mr. Bufman, OK? He's the
victim, see? Because he's trying to get a franchise, he doesn't
need any adverse publicity, and yet Linbeck couldn't care less,
because they're going to make their money and leave, and we've
got a problem. The second thing is, counselor, will you inform
your client that I have some carpenters here - stand up, you
fellows from the Carpenters' Union, OK? These gentlemen have
been pushed off the job by Xavier, the parent of a firm - sit
down, gentlemen, thank you - from the parent of... from Xavier.
Mayor Suarez: That's a hell of a name.
Mr. Dawkins: And the reason they've been pushed off the job is,
Xavier does not want to pay them a prevailing wage, according...
it's alleged - I can't, because, see, you're a lawyer; I have to
stick with you - it's alleged, air, that they refuse to pay a
prevailing wage. So, will you get with them, and get with your
client, and see if your client can't find out how these people.
can work, or what the problem is. And I have nothing further to
say, Mr. Mayor.
Mr. McCrary: Commissioner, am I to render a report back to you
on that question?
Mr. Dawkins: You and Ms.... and...
Mayor Suarez: Linbeck.
Mr. Dawkins: ... the City Attorney here, um-hmm.
Mayor Suarez:
Mr. McCrary: Yes, sir.
Mayor Suarez: You know, from my perspective, let me tell you,
Jesse, how I feel. As far as I can tell, objectively, Linbeck is
not meeting the goals. We all agree on that, that's an objective
evaluation - they're not meeting the 17-17-17 percent goals.
Certain totally -owned companies, apparently - I didn't know this
until this morning - are being hired as subcontractors, and, to
me, that already raises a presumption of "bad faith," to tell you
the truth. Thirdly, when... if it turns out that some of the
companies that were bidding against the totally -owned companies
of Linbeck, had a lower bid amount, then that, to me, almost
makes it a conclusion of "bad faith." And I would, without
reaching any conclusions right now, because I don't know if those
are the facts, suggest to you and to this Commission, that we
give a little teeth to the Committee that we have supervising all
of this, and ask... and resolve to have Commissioner Dawkins be a
part of that committee, to review all of the data, and all of the
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January 22, 1907
things that have been asked for today, to report back to this
Commission, so that we can have it absorbed and digested, and
delivered back to us with a recommendation. But it, just
superficially - and I was not ready for this item, so I have not
had a chance to meet with you and hear your responses, and I'm
sure you've got some, and you've given some this morning, in
terms of bonding, or whatever - to me, that's not going to be
enough. To me, you've got to make the effort. Commissioner
Dawkins and I were with the Insurance Commissioner just a couple
of weeks ago, trying to work out ways to solve the problem of
bonding for minority companies, and I think it can be solved a
lot of ways. One way is for Linbeck to bond them, and, to me,
that's not an impossibility by any means. That would cost a
little bit more, and maybe that has to be built into the bid
price amount, but don't just rule them out, even if they're
$60,000 or $70,000 less in their bid, because of the bonding. Or
split it up into segments, as Commissioner Dawkins has suggested.
Come up with creative solutions. We have done this in the
Bayside project, and it can be done in the Sports Arena. So, I
would entertain a motion to have Commissioner Dawkins be included
in that committee, and report back to us.
Mrs. Kennedy: So moved.
Mr. Plummer: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded. Any discussion? Call the
roll.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Kennedy,
who moved its adoption:
MOTION NO. 87-78
A MOTION NAMING COMMISSIONER MILLER DAWKINS AS A
MEMBER OF THE AD HOC MINORITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE
FOR MIAMI ARENA TO SUBSTITUTE FOR ONE OF THE
MAYOR'S APPOINTMENTS TO SAID COMMITTEE; FURTHER
DIRECTING THAT COMMISSIONER DAWKINS BE NAMED
.CHAIRMAN OF THE SPORTS AUTHORITY.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the motion was
passed and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Mr. Dawkins: Madame City Attorney, will you have Ms. Kelly, or
someone in your office, draw up for me an addendum, to attach to
all bids going out, that Linbeck is a company that one
Commissioner on the City of Miami does not care to work with, and
any contractor that comes in here with Linbeck as a construction
manager will not get a favorable vote from me. And I want that
as an addendum to every bid that goes out, because they have not
acted in "good faith," and until these people understand that we
are concerned about our community, and that some of these dollars
remain in our community, and that people who work, work in this
community, then I don't want them in here.
(APPLAUSE)
Mayor Suarez: Gana?
Mr. Gene Marks: I'm on the Authority; my name is Gene Marks, and
Mr. Blaisdell and I have been meeting in Houston, trying to
upgrade the arena, if there's certain savings in certain areas.
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Was the motion, Mr. Dawkins, is that no one will do any work who
does not have a signed contract? Now, there is intents of
contracts, that we have approved, but the final wording of that
hasn't been done. If it's done, like Xavier, for an example, who
is doing the foreman Work out there, a contract, they have
admitted, has not been signed, but the intent, by Mr. Blaisdell
and I, going over the bids - and we can only go over what is
submitted to us by Linbeck; we cannot force them to use anybody;
they can give us the bids, the low bids, for the breakdowns, and
then we recommend, you know, on that basis. If your motion means
that being that a valid contract has not been signed, are you
including them in it? If it is, I will tell you now, the job is _
stopped as of right now.
Mr. Dawkins: That was my intent, OK?
Mr. Marks: Well, that's...
Mr. Dawkins: Hold itt It... you...
Mr. Marks: ... one thing I wanted clear for the record.
Mayor Suarez: Wait, wait, wait, Gene.
Mr. Dawkins: Well, I'm trying to clear it for you, It you let
me.
Mr. Marks: OK. *All right.
Mr. Dawkins: OK? That was my intent, OK? But then I sat down
and I thought. You know, somebody could really and truly be
trying to be sure Miami does not get the franchise. So, if we
can create the atmosphere of ill will between the City, the
Sports Authority, and the basketball team, then the individuals
giving out the franchise will say we're not together. So I said
no, I'm not going to do it. I'm not... I intended to stop the
job, OK? But why... but like I say, Mr. Bufman is the victim in
this, see; he's done all he can to get a basketball team, and -
we've got guys around here who are trying to shaft him, OK? So,
now, I said, and I will say again, that the Manager has to make a
decision. That's what we pay him for. And I said that he does
not let Mr. Blaisdell sign off on anything that he's not
satisfied with. That was the motion.
Mr. Marks: Big difference. So, if that is the motion, then, at
this time, then the project... Xavier, being there is not a...
can I just give you a little background of this? Mr. Blaisdell
and I have been going to Houston, and I've spent an awful lot of
my time, which I don't mind, as a native of this town all my
life,...
Mr. Dawkins: Well, you're rich - it won't hurt you.
Mr. Marks: Miller, I remember when you didn't have anything
either.
(LAUGHTBB)
Mr. Plummer: Hell, that was yesterday.
Mr. Marks: Let's not get into personalities. OK, I was just
kidding you. The contracts between Decoma and the Authority,
Decoma has picked Linbeck to construct for them. We are taking
the short cut, of going directly with Linbeck to try to get this
worked out. As we are in Houston, Decoma's representative is on
the job, going over all the prices. There is ways of saving, and
I'm going to ask you people, as the Commission: the monies we
have saved in certain areas, we want to upgrade the seats,
because it was bid as seats, plastic back and plastic seats.
What we saved, we felt, is going into something that was
comfortable. Now, if you want to save on that, and it's your 87 —
decision to stay within the budget and go over and give higher
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prices to subcontracts, it's possible, it can be done, but you're
going to end up with bad seats, you're going to end up with just
plain concrete floors - we're trying to upgrade the arena. So, I
just want this understood there, that we do have a budget, and
it's very, very tight. '
Mr. Plummer: Well, let me ask you, Gene, because you're a
contractor: is it a normal procedure that a company would do
business with another company without a signed contract? I guess
I've got a problem with that. To me, how do you hold somebody's
feet to the fire, if you don't have a signed contract?
Mr. Marks: J.L., it has to be the trust between the two parties,
with the intent. I mean, it's... that's what it amounts to. I
have done this, if I know a certain contractor, by the time you
get the insurance and, you know, so on and .so forth, there may be
odds and ends; but if the intent is there, the letter of intent,
it can be done.
Mr. Plummer: Is that just as binding?
Mr. Marks: Like I say, it's between the two parties, if they
trust each other. You've got to know who you're dealing with.
Mr. Plummer: Well, I don't know what Xavier... the Xavier
company is doing, but, may something goes wrong in the interim,
between the time of letter of intent and a contract - would that
give them the possibility of escaping, and say, "Hey, guys, thank
you, I quit" - and then you're stuck with it? I mean, I don't
know.
Mr. Marks: Xavier is a subsidiary of Linbeck, so they will work
it out,between themselves.
(LAUGHTER)
�I Mr. Blaisdell: Commissioner, on the example of Xavier...
Mayor Suarez: Let me just clarify something here, procedurally,
because we... ,
Mr. Dawkins: Xavier is you?
Mayor Suarez:
though. But...
Mr. Plummer:
Suarez.
(LAUGHTER)
Mr. Dawkins:
No, it's no relation. That's a great name,
Yeah, but they're a wholly -owned subsidiary of
But Mr. Manager...
Mayor Suarez: Not all kids were baptized Xavier after me. But
we have not passed any motion to the effect that is being
discussed now. So far, we have just given our indication of the
consensus of how upset we are, that we wouldn't want any new
contracts to be signed. I'm not sure that we can pass such a
motion, legally, but... no, we haven't passed that yet, and I
don't want anybody to get that impression. We're not discussing
that; we're just discussing the Commission's consensus that we
would like no new contracts to be signed, unless acme of these
goals are being met to our satisfaction. Now, how we put that,
in terms of Commission action, we haven't decided yet.
Mr. Blaisdell: May I suggest something to the Commission?
Mayor Suarez: Sure.
137-272
NOTE FOR THE RECORD: Commissioner Joe Carollo entered the
meeting at 12:13 P.M.
Mr. Blaisdell: In connection with the Commissioner's motion, and
one point of clarification, is that in the process of approving
the selection of a subcontractor, after the evaluation is
completed by Linbeck, that is submitted to Decoma, who is the
owner under the agreement, and then, at the same time, it'-s also
submitted for review to the Authority. So it is not the case,
whereby the Sports Authority, on its own, makes a determination
whether or not the contract should be awarded to contract A, B,
and C. Decoma is, in addition, supposed to sign off and approve
the subcontract to be awarded.
Mr. Plummer: What happens if the Sports Authority does not sign
off?
Mr. Blaisdell: We would have to go into arbitration. If Decoma
disagreed... if we said we don't agree, and they were
recommending it, they could not enter into it. We would have to
go to arbitration.
Mr. Plummer: Has there been such an incident occur?
Mr. Blaisdell: No, air. So far all the recommendations from
Linbeck have also been recommended by Decoma. We have elected...
Mr. Plummer: Wait, whoa, whoa, one more step. Have all of the
recommendations recommended by Linbeck to Decoma, and Decoma to
the Sports Authority, been signed off on?
Mr. Blaisdell: No, sir. As a result of our... of the
Authority's... as a result of our knowledge of the importance of
the minority participation to the City Commission, and
Commissioner Dawkins' comments, we elected, on certain
subcontracts, not to approve them pursuant to their
recommendation, and we tried, along with some of the local
minority business enterprises, the associations, to try to assist
to make that possible, because the reason that the minority
contract... the reason that company that they were recommending
was not awarded the contract, was because they (a) could not
Insure or they could not bond. But after two or three months of
gyrations and going back and forth, it became apparent that there
is a... we get to a point of no return, where now we have to make
a decision for the project as a whole, and in looking at the
total participation of the project, we are faced with... we have
to make a decision. And we, here, and the numbers that we
recommended to the Commission today, we have made an affirmative
decision on those two which were previously withheld.
Mr. Plummer: Did the Sports Authority sign off on the contracts
of Helena and Xavier?
Mr. Blaisdell: On Helena, for the structural steel erection,
they were low qualified bidder, and the Authority signed off on
that one. On Xavier, Xavier was not the low qualified bidder;
the low qualified bidder recommended to the Authority was Coco
Corporation. Ceco Corporation is... has been a union firm, mason
firm, concrete forming firm, for a long time. They have just
elected to go to nonunion, except for in Chicago. And they,
after we signed off and awarded the bid to them, pursuant to
their recommendation, so they didn't recommend their firm - they
recommended the low qualified bidder. Coco Corporation...
Mr. Plummer: That's important.
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Mr. Blaisdell: That's what I'm trying to clarify. Ceco
Corporation pulled out, and said, "You guys are on your own."
And the second bidder, the second low qualified bidder, happened
to be Xavier Structures. And when you evaluate the way you come
to numbers, there is no... the numbers are there; I mean, the
documents, and they're open to review, and they're open to audit.
Mr. Dawkins: OR, what is the problem, then, with Javier and the
carpenters?
Mr. Blaisdell: The carpenters... Paul can speak to the labor
issue. My understanding is, Xavier is a nonunion firm, and they
have elected to hire local carpenters,...
Mr. Dawkins: From where?
Mr. Blaisdell: From Miami, to... who are...
Mr. Dawkins: Out of what section?
Mr. Blaisdell (OFF MIKE): Paul, do you want to address the issue
or not?
Mr. Dawkins: No, you address the issue,...
Mr. Blaisdell: I don't think that there's a...
Mr. Dawkins: ... I don't want to... I'm through talking to him.
Mr. Blaisdell: OK. They have elected not... they're a nonunion
contractor, so they are not using union personnel, so the current
picketing...
Mr. Dawkins: All right, but what is the prevailing nonunion
scale?
Mr. Blaisdell: For carpenters? I don't know.
Mr. Dawkins: All right, that's all right. What's the prevailing
nonunion scale? Anybody over there. (INAUDIBLE BACKGROUND
REPLIES) Come up and give your name and...
Mr. Paul Walker: My name is Paul Walker. I'm with the
Carpenters' Union. Some of any men have went in, and asked for
jobs, asked how much they're paying. It's $10, $12, $9,
depending on what we want to pay you. The prevailing rate in
Dade County today - I've got a prevailing rate job right here at
Jackson Memorial Hospital; total package is $13.88.
Mr. Dawkins: OR, thank you.
Mr. Walker: Thank you.
Mr. Plummer: Is that union, or nonunion?
Mr. Walker: That is a prevailing rate; it is a nonunion job.
Mr. Plummer: For both? For both?
Mr. Walker: Sir?
Mr. Plummer: The prevailing rate is for union or nonunion?
Mr. Walker: Yes, sir.
Mr. Plummer: All right.
Mr. Walker: That's the prevailing rate, that's not by the
Federal government and Dade County.
Mayor Suarez: It's a non -negotiated prevailing rate, just... -97~
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Mr. Dawkins: See, OK, and you guys are locked out because they
don't want to pay you $13. They're going to get somebody off the
street they can pay less, is that correct? (SILENCE) See, I
mean, see this... they're not operating in "good faith," J.L.
Mr. Walker: Commissioner, I cannot answer you that question,
because I have not negotiated with Unbeck or Xavier. I'm just
relating to you what my members have came and told me.
Mr. Dawkins: All right, we've got one more thing, and it's
almost 12:30 P.M. Let me may this, Mr. Mayor and fellow
Commissioners. I want to ask one more question, John, and then
I'm going to...
Mr. Blaisdell: Yes, sir.
Mr. Dawkins: ... close this out. Who bonds Xavier... I mean,
where does Xavier Corporation and Helena get their bonding from?
Mr. Blaisdell: On their own.
Mr. Dawkins: On their own?
Mr. Blaisdell: Yes, sir.
Mayor Suarez: Are you convinced that they...
Mr. Dawkins: Well, all right, who's property log sheet do they
use, theirs, or...?
Mr. Blaisdell: I'm sorry, could you... I didn't understand...
Mr. Dawkins: See,...
Mayor Suarez: Are you convinced that they didn't use the
financial statements of the parent corporation to get their
bonding?
Mr. Blaisdell: No, I'm not sure.
Mayor Suarez: I would suspect that a subsidiary...
Mr. Dawkins: They'd have tot
Mayor Suarez: ... that has a bonding limit, would get help from
their parent corporation in their financial statement.
Mr. Dawkins: They'd have tot I mean, that's standard common
sense.
Mr. Plummer: Well, that would be depending on the scope of the
project.
Mr. Dawkins: OK, Mr. Manager...
Mayor Suarez: No, right. I mean, I was just... it's a guess.
They don't have to. A subsidiary can stand on its own, if it can
get the bonding, but I'd bet you that, if I had to bet, that they
used the parent corporation's financial statement.
Mr. Dawkins: Mr. Manager, - I agree with you - Mr. Manager, I'd
like to bring this to closure. Would you instruct... Madame City
Attorney, is there any way, now, to tell Can -American, Cruz
Construction, and Sirka Bonds, that no contract is going to be
signed with them, until they have met the minority part of the
agreement. Can we do that?
Mrs. Dougherty: In other words, make it a mandatory minority... -
Mr. Dawkins: Before we sign anything with them, they've 8
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come in here with minority -signed contracts - 17 percent Cuban,
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signed; 17 percent ladies, signed; 17 percent Black, signed, and
then we sign with them.
Mr. Plummer: All right, question.
Mr. Dawkins: Yes.
Mr. Plummer: Are you likewise saying that they have to be the
low bidder, and capable of bonding? I think that's important,
because, if you don't...
Mr. Dawkins: But you see, J.L., the "capable of bonding" - no,
because Bayside worked out the bonding, and they are well pleased
with the two individuals they've got over there. And I hate to
may this, but Tom is blackballed from somewhere, because Tom has
lost two jobs that he bid on, and they told the people that...
told him it was union, and told the other people it was nonunion,
and he lost the bid.
Mr. Plummer: Well, but my question is: each of these companies
have made representations to this City, as to what they're
proposing, and their rates, and what they're going to charge.
Now, if you go to this, are you going to have a safeguard
provision in there, that these minority firms must be bidding in
at the same price, or below bidder? Because, if you don't...
Mr. Dawkins: Oh, yeah - but, no, wait now, we don't have any...
we .do want to accept the low bid, OK? I have no problem with
that.
Mr. Plummer: OK, all right. Well, that's a safeguard.
Mr. Dawkins: But I cannot sit here, and let anybody think that
I'm going to vote for anything where they have excluded us, by
bonding.
Mr. Plummer: OK, so what you're saying is, that they've got to
produce a mandated 51 percent, but they must be also through a
bidding procedure, and must be low and responsible bid.
Mr. Dawkins: Got to be competitive. You've got to be able to
bid competitively, or you don't... you've got no business being
In business. I have no problem with that, J.L.
Mayor Suarez: Why couldn't...
Mrs. Kennedy: Is that in the form of a motion?
Mayor Suarez: ... we have an opportunity...
Mr. Dawkins: Om-hmm.
Mayor Suarez: ..* to resolve their bonding...
Mrs. Kennedy: Is that in the form of a motion?
Mr. Dawkins: Yes, um-hmm.
Mayor Suarez: ... problems whenever those come up - the City?
Mr. Plummer: Well, because you're talking... I guess you're
talking, Xavier, of millions and millions of dollars.
Mr. Dawkins: OK, let's...
Mr. Plummer: There's no question about that.
Mr. Dawkins: I'm finished.
Mayor Suarez: Well, that's...
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Mr. Dawkins: I'll close that, because we've got one more, and
it's almost 12:30 P.M.
Mrs. Dougherty: So you're asking that we...
Mrs. Kennedy: Second.
Mr. Dawkins: Um-hmm, OR.
Mrs. Dougherty: ... make that a...
Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded.
Mrs. Dougherty: condition of the...
Mayor Suarez: Under discussion.
Mrs. Dougherty: ... all of the contracts.
Mr. Dawkins: We'll discuss it and bring it back
at the next
meeting as a resolution. OR, thank you, Mr. Mayor.
Mr. Mayor,
I've got one more, and I'll be ready to go.
Mayor Suarez: You don't want to vote on it?
Mr. Dawkins: Yes, vote; vote, yeah - I want to vote
on it.
Mr. Blaisdell: Mr.... and Commissioners. Mr.
Sipes, from
Linbeck Construction Company, would like to make a
statement in
connection with the carpenter's statement on the wage, if...
Mr. Dawkins: By all means, by all means. Um-hmm.
Mr. Blaisdell: Thank you.
Mr. Sipes: I am with Linbeck Construction Corporation, and
Xavier Structures is an affiliate of Linbeck Corporation, which
Linbeck Construction Corporation is also. I'd like to point out,
several months ago, Linbeck Construction Corporation contacted
the Carpenters' Local, to tender a contract at their wage, and
they... we have reached impasse, due to their actions. Xavier
Structures, to the best of my knowledge, has also done the same
ti�,ing; they have not at the prevailing wage. I'd like to point
out, because the project is not totally union, that there might
be others that will be in here with the same actions, and that
should be considered in what this body does. Thank you.
Mr. Gustavo M. Figueroa: Commissioners, Mayor. Is this on?
(MIKE)
Mr. Dawkins: Your name and address, please.
Mr. Figueroa: My name is Gus Figueroa. I'm a State
representative for the Carpenters' Union, Florida State Council
of Carpenters. We're located at 295 West 79th Place, Hialeah,
Florida. We had been contacted by Linbeck a few months ago, like
Mr. Paul Sipes mentioned, and we were trying to enter into "good
faith" negotiations with Linbeck Corporation, and also, recently,
shortly after that, we were contacted by Xavier for the same
purpose. Linbeck Corporation offered us... wanted us to tie our
hands on the project, to, basically, secure employment for one or
two carpenters that were going to be their lead people on the job
site, running all the operations, and while the rest of the job
would go, basically, open shop, or, basically, we would have no
way to protect our members or protect the community at large,
from substandard wages and benefits and conditions that were
being employed on this particular project. We refused to
negotiate, in any manner, of any sort, with that type of
condition imposed upon us, with Linbeck. And with Xavier
Construction, Xavier Construction, even though this is not the
proper forum to bring up collective bargaining issues between the
unions and the private party involved in these negotiations,
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` Xavier Construction, their representative, Bill Scott, had
contacted our facilities, to discuss the possibility of a
collective bargaining agreement being drafted and worked out, for
a project basis only, on this job site. We have agreements that
are executed on a county -wide basis, in this area, and have
successfully negotiated with many contractors from the local
area. Xavier has, basically, asked us to provide them with a
front, in regards to making it seem like we would accept a few
contractors... I mean, a few carpenters, on the job site, getting
the prevailing wage, while we turn the head, and let the rest of
the community suffer with lower substandard wages and benefits
being paid to them, and lower our heads and shy away from that
particular situation. Even, you know, that's a situation that
caused us to be out there in full force like we are right now,
with a protest, before the community, about the substandard wages
and conditions; and we refuse to bargain in that manner, when
we're being told to, basically, play games, when we don't play
games with the community, and we don't expect the contractors in
this community to have games played with them, either, in the
process that they bid the projects, etc., in the ongoing
situation down here.
Mayor Suarez: Thank you for your statement.
Mr. Figueroa: Thank you.
Mr. Plummer: Well, why don't you just follow that up, the
gentleman from Linbeck Construction? Has he made a true
statement, sir?
Mayor Suarez: It's a matter of interpretation.
Mr. Sipes: I really cannot speak to what the conversations are
between them and Xavier Structures.
Mr. Plummer: No, no, he said they first went with you; they
talked with you. Now, he's made...
Mr. Sipes: At our invitation, yes, they did.
Mr. Plummer: Excuse me?
Mr. Sipes: At our invitation, we had those conversations, yes.
Mr. Plummer: And was it your intent to only hire two, to be
front people?
Mr. Sipes: No, sir.
Mr. Plummer: Did that discussion evolve at any time during your
discussion?
Mr. Sipes: No. No, sir.
Mr. Plummer: So, what you're saying is, that he's incorrect.
Mr. Sipes: I think he just said that was Xavier who did that.
Mr. Plummer: No, sir, he said both.
Mr. Sipes: Well, that... it's incorrect.
Mr. Plummer: Excuse me, is... did you not say both?
Mr. Figueroa: Yes, sir. Yes, sir.
Mr. Plummer: All right, air.
Mr. Sipes: Well, that's not correct. I was in the
conversations, and that did not occur. We have more... we have
like two carpenters on the project now, due to the time frame of 87-2 7,Z ,
the work.
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Mr. Plummer: I just wanted it on the record.
Mr. Figueroa: Commissioner Plummer,...
Mr. Plummer: Yes, sir.
Mr. Figueroa: ... if I can interject a second, here. If that
was the intent of Linbeck, to, basically, self -perform on the
project, on the form work, and so on, why is it that their
subsidiaries are involved in the project, .in the bidding process,
and involved in contract work?
Mr. Plummer: Well, they have every right to bid, there's no
question about that.
Mr. Figueroa: But, to contradict the issue, Commissioner, in
regards to that... when we were approached, in regards to being
offered a contract with Linbeck, that would, basically, tie our
hands in regards to no strike, no walkouts on the project, etc.,
which is the strong language that they have imposed in their
proposal to us, their employment proposal was to employ just the
lead carpenters on the job site. The rest of the carpentry work,
which we represent, would have gone open shop, or whichever way
it was let out.
Mr. Plummer: Sir, he said that didn't happen.
Mr. Sipes: Commissioner, I think what he is attempting to say
is, other subcontractors' workers would be whatever that
subcontractor chose to do, and that is a fact. That is a true
statement. But the people in the direct employ of Linbeck
Construction Corporation would have been... their wage, whatever
scale that was. I would like to add that the Laborers' Local,
the Operators' Local, and the Ironworkers' Local, have all signed
our agreement, a similar agreement that we tendered to the
carpenters.
Mayor Suarez: Do we have a pending motion?
Mrs. Kennedy: The motion on the floor.
Mr. Plummer: No.
Mrs. Kennedy: Yes, Mr...
Mr. Plummer: Wait a minute, what is the...
Ms. Hirai: It was a direction to the administration.
Mrs. Kennedy: Commissioner Dawkins put it in the form of a
motion and I seconded.
Mayor Suarez: What was the...
Mr. Plummer: Oh, this is in reference to the other group.
Not... it doesn't speak to this, it speaks to the other groups
that you're talking about.
Mr. Dawkins: Yes. Yeah, the other groups, yes.
Mayor Suarez: And when would it take effect, Mr. City...
Mr. Dawkins (OFF MIKE): Immediately.
Mayor Suarez: You're talking about for Overtown/Park West, then?
Mr. Dawkins (OFF MIKE): Yes. i
Mayor Suarez: OK, all right. Call the roll on that motion.
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The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Dawkins,
who moved its adoption:
MOTION NO. 87-79
A MOTION DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER KOT TO
ALLOW ANY CONTRACT TO BE SIGNED IN CONNECTION
WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE SPORTS ARENA
UNLESS SAID COMPANIES PROVE THAT THEY HAVE
MET THE STIPULATED MINORITY HIRING GOALS
WHICH HAVE BEEN SET BY THIS CITY.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Kennedy, the motion was
passed and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
Comment made during roll call:
Mr. Plummer: With the assurance that the safeguards of the
competitive bidding, the bonding capacity, and responsible, are
built into the procedures, I vote yes.
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