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COMMISSION
MINUTES
OF MEETINGHE n ON APRIL 9, 1987
ilGiil (REGULAR)
Papua 8Y THE OFFICE OF THE CITY CLERK
CITY HALL
HATTY HIRAI
City Clerk
INDEX
MINUTES OF REGULAR MEETING
CITY COMMISSION OF MIAMI, FLORIDA
APRIL 9,1987
ITEM SUBJECT LEGISLATION PAGE
NO. NO.
1. CONSENT AGENDA. 1-2
1.1
ACCEPT BID:
EPPERSON CRANES, INC.
FOR REMOVING
AND TRANSPORTING CITY
RADIO TOWER.
1.2
ACCEPT BID:
MIAMI RUG COMPANY FOR
CARPETING.
1.3
ACCEPT BID:
CHASTAIN FENCE CO. FOR
FENCING.
1.4
ACCEPT BID:
JUELLE INC. AND DELIA
DEMOLITION
INC. FOR DEMOLITION
SERVICES.
1.5
ACCEPT BID:
PERKING POWER CORP.
FOR MARINA DIESEL ENGINE.
1.6
ACCEPT BID:
NORTON ENGINEERING FOR
SANITARY SEWER PUMPING STATION.
1.7 AUTHORIZE CONTRACT WITH DAVID H.
GRIFFITH AND ASSOCIATES TO PREPARE
A CENTRAL SERVICES COST ALLOCATION
PLAN.
1.8 AUTHORIZE MANAGER TO ENTER INTO
SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH ARTHUR
ANDERSON AND CO. TO ANALYZE
FINANCIAL VIABILITY OF PROPOSALS
FOR THE 2640 SOUTH BAYSHORE DRIVE
UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT PROJECT.
1.9 APPROVE FACILITY MANAGEMENT GROUP,
INC. (FMG) TO OPERATE AND MANAGE
THE CITY OF MIAMI/UNIVERSITY OF
MIAMI JAMES L. KNIGHT INTERNATIONAL
CENTER (CONVENTION CENTER)
1.10 AUTHORIZE REIMBURSEMENT OF OUT-OF-
POCKET EXPENSES TO SPARBER, SHEVIN,
SHAPO AND HEILBRONNER.
1.11 AUTHORIZE EXECUTION OF AGREEMENT
WITH THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
IN CONNECTION WITH THE BAYFRONT
PARK REDEVELOPMENT PROJECT'S
FLAGLER STREET PROMENADE.
= 1.12 ACCEPT BID: DOUGLAS N. HIGGINS FOR
FLAGAMI SANITARY SEWER IMPROVEMENT.
1.13 ACCEPT BID: MADSEN-BARR
CORPORATION FOR CITYWIDE SANITARY
SEWER REPLACEMENT PROJECT.
4/9/87
R 87-305 2
4/9/87
R 87-306
4/9/87
R 87-307
4/9/87
R 87-308
4/9/87
R 87-309
4/9/87
R 87-310
4/9/87
R 87-311
4/9/87
R 87-312
4/9/87
3
3
3
4
4
4
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R 87-313 5
4/9/87
R 87-314 5
4/9/87
R 87-315 6
4/9/87
R 87-316 6
4/9/87
R 87-311 6
4/9/87 `F
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1.14
ACCEPT COMPLETED WORK: IDEAL
R 87-318
7
ROOFING AND SHEET METAL WORKS INC.
4/9/87
FOR FIRE STATION NO. 4 REROOFING.
1.15
ACCEPT PLAT: "FROGS LEAP"
R 87-319
7
4/9/87
1.16
ACCEPT IN ANNUAL CONTRIBUTIONS OF
R 87-320
7
$2, 242,752 FROM DEPARTMENT OF
4/9/87
HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT (HUD)
1.17
AUTHORIZE CLOSURE OF STREETS FOR
R-87-321
7
COMMITTEE 'ON BEAUTIFICATION AND
4/9/87
ENVIRONMENT PARADE.
2.
DISCUSSION AND DEFERRAL OF PROPOSED
DISCUSSION
8-9
RESOLUTION ORDERING SILVER BLUFF
4/9/87
HIGHWAY IMPROVEMENTS.
3.
DISCUSSION AND DEFERRAL OF PROPOSED
DISCUSSION
9
RESOLUTION ORDERING BUENA VISTA
4/9/87
HIGHWAY IMPROVEMENT.
4.
DISCUSSION OF POLICE PROTECTION AT
DISCUSSION
10
BAYSIDE SPECIALTY CENTER.
4/9/87
5.
APPROVE SELECTION OF NATIONAL PANEL
M 87-322
11-15
TO ADDRESS ALLEGED DISCRIMINATION
4/9/87
IN FIRE DEPARTMENT (SEE LABEL #50.)
6.
PRESENTATION OF FAIR HOUSING MONTH.
PRESENTED
16
4/9/87
7.
DISCUSSION OF PARKING AT BAYSIDE
DISCUSSION
16-18
SPECIALTY CENTER.
4/9/87
S.
EMERGENCY ORDINANCE: ESTABLISH
ORDINANCE
18-19
SPECIAL REVENUE FUND "OFFICER
10249
STRESS AND AWARENESS AND CRISIS
4/9/87
INTERVENTION PROGRAM, REGION XIV
FY186 -'87" AND APPROPRIATE FUNDS
FOR SAME.
9.
EMERGENCY ORDINANCE: ESTABLISH NEW
ORDINANCE
19-20
SPECIAL REVENUE FUND "PARKS AND
10250
RECREATION COMPUTERIZATION GRANT"
4/9/87
AND APPROPRIATE FUNDS FOR SAME.
10.
RECONSIDER AND REAFFIRM PREVIOUS
M 87-323
20-21
MOTION FOR NATIONAL PANEL OF
M 87-324
EXPERTS TO ADDRESS ALLEGED
4/9/87
DISCRIMINATION IN THE FIRE
DEPARTMENT. (SEE LABEL #5).
11.
EMERGENCY ORDINANCE: INCREASE
ORDINANCE
22
APPROPRIATION FOR "ACQUISITION OF
10251
COMPUTER AND ASSOCIATED
4/9/87
PERIPHERALS."
12.
EMERGENCY ORDINANCE: INCREASE
ORDINANCE
23-24
APPROPRIATIONS FOR "LAW ENFORCEMENT
10252
TRUST FUND"
4/9/87
13.
DISCUSSION CONCERNING POSSIBLE
DISCUSSION
24-25
REVENUES TO THE CITY RESULTING FROM
4/9/87
RICO ACT.
14.
DEFER CONSIDERATION OF COMPLEX AND
M 87-325
25-27
PROTRACTED INVESTIGATIONS.
4/9/87
i25
y
15.
EMERGENCY ORDINANCE: INCREASE
ORDINANCE
27-28
APPROPRIATIONS IN "INTERNAL SERVICE
10253
FUND."
4/9/87
16.
AUTHORIZE PURCHASE OF THREE ECONOMY
R 87-326
28-30
CARGO VANS FROM DON REID FORD, INC.
4/9/87
17.
ACCEPT BIDS: SEVEN SUPPLIERS OF
R 87-327
30-32
HEAVY EQUIPMENT (SEE LABEL #10 AND
4/9/87
#24)
18.
DISCUSSION CONCERNING POWER BLOWERS
DISCUSSION
32-33
USED ON YARD CLEANING.
4/9/87
19.
RECONSIDERATION OF BID ACCEPTANCE
M 87-327.1
33-34
OF SEVEN SUPPLIERS OF HEAVY
4/9/87
EQUIPMENT (SEE LABELS #17 AND #24)
20.
ACCEPT BID: HONDA NORTH FOR 2
R 87-328
34-35
THREE -WHEEL SCOOTERS.
4/9/87
21.
ACCEPT BID: LAWMEN'S AND SHOOTERS
R 87-329
35-37
SUPPLY CO. AND PUBLIC SAFETY
4/9/87
DEVICES FOR FURNISHING POLICE AUTO
EQUIPMENT.
22.
SECOND READING ORDINANCE: CHANGE
ORDINANCE
38-39
FUNDING SOURCE OF "ORANGE BOWL
10254
STADIUM - ACQUISITION OF MIAMI
4/9/87
BOARD OF REALTOR'S PROPERTY."
23.
ENTER INTO TURNKEY CONTRACT WITH
M 87-330
39-42
MIAMI CENTER ASSOCIATES FOR TOTAL
4/9/87
BUY-OUT OF STORE LEASES AND
RENOVATION AT THE MIAMI KNIGHT
CONVENTION CENTER (SEE LABEL #25.)
- 24.
REITERATE PASSAGE OF BID ACCEPTANCE
R 87-330.1
42-48
OF SEVEN SUPPLIERS OF HEAVY
4/9/87
EQUIPMENT (SEE LABELS #17 AND #19)
25.
SECOND READING ORDINANCE: CHANGE
ORDINANCE
48-49
RATE SCHEDULE OF MIAMI KNIGHT
10255
_
CONVENTION CENTER. (SEE LABEL #23)
4/9/87
26.
(A) DOCUMENTARY SURTAX FUNDING TO
R 87-331
49-54
-
ASSIST IN FINANCING AFFORDABLE
ORDINANCE
HOUSING AT MELROSE NURSERY AND
10256
CIVIC CENTER SITES; (B) SECOND
READING ORDINANCE: ESTABLISH NEW
FUND - "SCATTERED SITE AFFORDABLE
HOUSING DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM" AND
APPROPRIATING FUNDS FOR SAME.
27.
SECOND READING ORDINANCE: INCREASE
ORDINANCE
54-55
APPROPRIATION FOR "SOUTHEAST
10257
OVERTOWN/PARK WEST REDEVELOPMENT -
4/9/87
PHASE I"
28.
DISCUSSION CONCERNING THE SUCCESS
DISCUSSION
56-57
OF BAYSIDE SPECIALTY CENTER AND
4/9/87
THOSE WHO SHOULD BE PRAISED FOR
THEIR EFFORTS.
29.
DISCUSSION AND TEMPORARY DEFERRAL
DISCUSSION
57-66
OF PROPOSED FIRST READING ORDINANCE
4/9/87
TO INCREASE FEES CHARGED BY CITY
DAY CARE FACILITIES. (SEE LABEL
#41)
30.
OPENED BIDS FOR CONSTRUCTION OF
M 87-332
67
N.W. 8 STREET ROAD HIGHWAY
4/9/87
IMPROVEMENT B-4520.
31.
DISCUSSION AND DEFERRAL OF PROPOSED
DISCUSSION
67-80
FIRST READING ORDINANCE REGARDING
4/9/87
IMPACT FEES.
32.
APPROVE CENTRUST TOWER LIGHTING
R 87-333
80-82
STRUCTURE (SEE LABEL #62)
4/9/87
33.
FIRST READING ORDINANCE: ESTABLISH
FIRST
82-83
NEW FUND "RECREATION PROGRAMS FOR
READING
THE MENTALLY RETARDED -
4/9/87
CONSOLIDATED" AND APPROPRIATE FUNDS
FOR SAME.
34.
FIRST READING ORDINANCE: INCREASE
FIRST
83-85
APPROPRIATIONS FOR "CURTIS PARKS
READING
IMPROVEMENTS" AND "VIRGINIA KEY
4/9/87
PARK DEVELOPMENT."
35.
FIRST READING ORDINANCE: PROVIDE
FIRST
86
STAGGERED TERMS FOR MEMBERS OF THE
READING
MIAMI SPORTS AND EXHIBITION
4/9/87
AUTHORITY.
36.
APPOINT FAUSTO DIAZ OLIVER TO THE
R 87-334
86-87
SPORTS AND EXHIBITION AUTHORITY.
4/9/87
37.
PERMIT DRIVE-IN FACILITY FOR
R 87-335
87-88
CITICORP SAVINGS ON 1600 S.W. 22
4/9/87
STREET.
38.
PERMIT A REDUCTION FROM 10 TO 1
R 87-336
88-89
RESERVOIR SPACE FOR 1 OF 3 DRIVE-IN
4/9/87
TELLERS FOR CITICORP SAVINGS ON
1600 S.W. 22 STREET.
39.
PERMIT DRIVE-IN TELLER FACILITY FOR
R 87-337
89-93
CITICORP SAVINGS WITH REDUCTION OF
4/9/87
THE 50' TRANSITIONAL AREA TO A 10'
LANDSCAPED AREA AT 1600 S.W. 22
STREET.
40.
DISCONTINUE CONTRACT WITH MIAMI-
R 87-338
94-95
DADE TRADE AND TOURISM COMMISSION,
4/9/87
INC. - NO FURTHER FUNDING.
41.
MAINTAIN PRESENT FEE STRUCTURE FOR
M 87-339
95-102
USE OF CITY DAY CARE FACILITIES;
4/9/87
STUDY POSSIBILITY OF PRIVATE SECTOR
PARTICIPATION (SEE LABEL #29)
42.
SELECT BEAR STEARNS AS SENIOR
R 87-340
103-111
UNDERWRITER FOR GENERAL OBLIGATION
4/9/87
REFUNDING BONDS.
43.
TEMPORARY DEFERRAL OF HEALTH
DISCUSSION
111-112
FACILITIES AUTHORITY HOSPITAL
4/9/87
REVENUE BONDS FOR MERCY HOSPITAL
REVENUE BONDS FOR MERCY HOSPITAL
AND CEDARS MEDICAL CENTER (SEE
LABEL #63 AND E64)
44.
TEMPORARY DEFERRAL OF PROPOSED
DISCUSSION
114-115
CONTRACTS WITH COMMUNITY BASED
4/9/87
ORGANIZATIONS (SEE LABEL #56)
45.
REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS TO BE ISSUED
R 87-341
115-117
FOR MANAGEMENT OF MIAMARINA.
4/9/87
46.
DEFER CONSIDERATION OF PROPOSED
M 87-342
117-122
AGREEMENTS WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD
4/9/87
FOR USE OF CITY PARKS.
47.
AUTHORIZE PERMIT FOR NICARAGUAN
R 87-343
AMERICAN FOUNDATION INC. FOR USE
4/9/87
OF OFFICE SPACE AT HENDERSON PARK.
48.
CITY TO SPONSOR A SCULPTURE CONTEST
M 87-344
PLANNED BY COCONUT GROVE ART
4/9/87
FESTIVAL ASSOCIATION TO TAKE PLACE
NEXT YEAR ON GROUNDS OF CITY HALL.
49.
THANK CHANNEL 51 AND LATIN CHAMBER
M 87-345
OF COMMERCE FOR DONATION OF VIDEO
4/9/87
PRESENTATION PROMOTING OUR
COMMUNITY.`
50.
EMERGENCY PURCHASE OF 2 REBUILT
R 87-346
HYDROCRANES FROM SHELLY TRACTOR AND
4/9/87
EQUIPMENT CO.
51.
APPROVE REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS FOR
R 87-347
THE STATE PLAZA/MIAMI ARENA MIXED
4/9/87
USE PROJECT.
52.
DISCUSSION (VIDEO PRESENTATION) BY
DISCUSSION
LUIS LAUREDO, DADE COUNTY COUNCIL
4/9/87
OF ARTS AND SCIENCES.
53.
DISCUSSION BY CARMEN MAINE OF
DISCUSSION
ASOCIACION LOS VIEJOS UTILES (THE
4/9/87
USEFUL AGED).
54.
REQUEST AMENDMENT TO CHARTER
M 87-348
REQUIRING PRIOR APPROVAL BY
4/9/87
REFERENDUM BEFORE ANY PERMANENT
LEASE ON WATSON ISLAND CAN BE
GRANTED.
55.
CITY MANAGER TO STUDY POSSIBILITY
M 87-349
OF ASSISTANCE TO "CURE A.I.D.S.
4/9/87
NOW" (SEE LABEL #57)
56.
EXECUTE CONTRACTS WITH COMMUNITY
R 87-350
BASED ORGANIZATIONS (SEE LABEL #44)
4/9/87
57.
CONTINUED DISCUSSION BY MEMBERS OF
DISCUSSION
"CURE A.I.D.S. NOW" (SEE LABEL #55)
4/9/87
58.
GRANT 90-DAY EXTENSION FOR
M 87-351
NEGOTIATIONS REGARDING THE MELROSE
4/9/87
AND CIVIC CENTER AFFORDABLE HOUSING
PROJECTS.
59.
ALLOCATE $30,000 FOR "FLORIDA
M 87-352
HOUSING COOPERATIVE, INC." FOR
4/9/87
CONVERSION OF PROPERTY TO LOW AND
MODERATE INCOME HOUSING WITH
PROVISOS.
60.
EXECUTE AGREEMENT WITH LATIN
R 87-353
CHAMBER OF COMMERCE FOR VIII
4/9/87
HEMISPHERIC CONGRESS OF LATIN
CHAMBERS OF COMMERCE AND INDUSTRY.
61.
WAIVE $800 OWED BY FEDERACION DE
M 87-354
SOFTBALL DE CUBA LIBRE FOR USE OF
4/9/87
CITY PARKS - SAID GROUP TO PAY
$15/DAY FOR USE OF CITY PARKS.
62.
THANK CENTRUST TOWER FOR THEIR
M 87-355
CONTRIBUTION TO CITY (SEE LABEL
4/9/87
#32)
122-125
125-127
128-129
129-130
130-131
131-133
133-135
135-139
139-146
146-149
149-150
150-153
153-167
167-168
168-172
172-173
0
63.
APPROVE ISSUANCE OF FLORIDA HEALTH
R 87 356
FACILITIES AUTHORITY HOSPITAL
4/9/87
REVENUE BONDS FOR CEDARS MEDICAL
CENTER. (SEE LABEL #43)
64.
APPROVE ISSUANCE OF FLORIDA HEALTH
R 87-357
FACILITIES AUTHORITY HOSPITAL
4/9/87
REVENUE BONDS FOR MERCY HOSPITAL
INC. (SEE LABEL #43)
65.
ADDITIONAL SERVICES REQUIRED OF
R 87-358
TOXICOLOGY TESTING SERVICES - URINE
4/9/87
SAMPLES FOR DRUG SCREENING TEST.
66.
AMEND AGREEMENT WITH LITTLE HAVANA
R 87-359
DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY IN
4/9/87
DEVELOPMENT OF LATIN QUARTER.
67.
APPOINT GARY MCGREEGAN TO THE CITY
R 87-360
OF MIAMI/UNIVERSITY OF MIAMI JAMES
4/9/87
L. KNIGHT INTERNATIONAL CENTER
ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
68.
APPOINT SHAWN HERNESS AND MANUEL
R 87-361
JOHN GONZALEZ TO THE YOUTH ADVISORY
4/9/87
COUNCIL.
69.
APPOINT MICKEY MUSKAT TO THE
M 87-362
BAYSIDE MINORITY BOARD.
4/9/87
70.
WAIVE BIDDING PROCESS FOR COMPUTER
R 87-363
AIDED DRAFTING AND DESIGN SYSTEM
4/9/87
PURCHASED FROM HOLGUIN AND HEWLETT-
PACKARD.
71.
WAIVE BIDDING PROCESS FOR A
R 87-364
COMPUTER FLEET COMMAND SYSTEM
4/9/87
PURCHASED FROM THE MAINSTEM
CORPORATION.
72.
BRIEF DISCUSSION REGARDING FRIENDS
DISCUSSION
OF THE CARIBBEAN.
4/9/87
73.
WAIVE ORANGE BOWL RENTAL FEE FOR
M 87-365
"STAND UP AMERICA FOUNDATION" TO
4/9/87
HOLD CONCERT.
74.
DISCUSSION BY KEN PATRICK OF
DISCUSSION
FLORIDA'S SUNSHINE STATE GAMES
4/9/87
REGARDING GYMNASTICS TRIALS IN
MIAMI.
75.
ALLOCATE $50,000 TO BRING A MAJOR
R 87-366
INTERNATIONAL SOCCER MATCH (BRAZIL
4/9/87
AND COLUMBIA) TO ORANGE BOWL.
76.
$300,000 (SURPLUS MONIES FROM OFF-
M 87-367
STREET PARKING DEPARTMENT) TO BE
4/9/87
EQUALLY DIVIDED BETWEEN SIX TARGET
AREAS.
77.
STUDY FURTHER ASSISTANCE TO
M 87-368
HANDICAPPED IN PUBLIC FACILITIES -
4/9/87
WAIVE ENTRANCE FEE AT VIRGINIA KEY
PARK.
78.
GENERAL ANTONIO MACEO FOUNDATION
M 87-369
GRANTED USE OF GENERAL ANTONIO
4/9/87
MACEO PARK BUILDING.
79.
DISCUSSION REGARDING NATIONAL
DISCUSSION
CONFERENCE OF BLACK MAYORS.
4/9/87
173-174
174-175
175-176
176
177
177-178
178
179
181
181-185
185-186
187
188-193
193-196
196-197
197-198
80.
81.
82.
83.
DISCUSSION CONCERNING NO MORE JAIL
DISCUSSION
198-199
FACILITIES IN MIAMI.
4/9/87
BRIEF DISCUSSION CONCERNING
DISCUSSION
199-200
DISBURSEMENT OF BOND MONEY TO INNER
4/9/87
CITY PARKS.
ALLOCATE $1500 FOR "RED RIBBON DAY"
R 87-370
200
(SAY NO TO DRUGS) TO PLACE RED
4/9/87
RIBBONS AROUND CITY PROPERTIES ON
MAY 13TH.
$200,000 LOAN TO COCONUT GROVE
M 87-371
201-202
PLAYHOUSE - APPOINT COMMISSIONER
4/9/87
PLUMMER AS CITY REPRESENTATIVE ON
THE COCONUT GROVE PLAYHOUSE BOARD
OF DIRECTORS.
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MINUTES OF REGULAR MEETING OF THE
CITY COMMISSION OF MIAMI, FLORIDA
On the 9th day of April, 1987, the City Commission of Miami, Florida,
met at its regular meeting place in the City Hall, 3500 Pan American Drive,
Miami, Florida in regular session.
The meeting was called to order at 9:03 a.m. by Mayor Xavier Suarez with
the following members of the Commission found to be present:
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
ALSO PRESENT:
Cesar Odio, City Manager
Lucia Allen Dougherty, City Attorney
Matty Hirai, City Clerk
Walter J. Foeman, Assistant City Clerk
An invocation was delivered by Mayor Suarez who then led those present
in a pledge of allegiance to the flag.
1 CONSENT AGENDA
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Mayor Suarez: I'm happy to see all of the commissioners here bright and bushy
tailed early. Keep an eye on those that look like they were partying all day
yesterday, I can think of a couple. Particularly the two to my left. Any
representatives of the Miami Board of Realtors? I don't see Frank Castaneda
anywhere. Any representatives on the proclamation on National Medical
Laboratory Week? That does it for our ceremonial items. Very short
commission session today. Items 1 through 20 comprise the Consent Agenda.
Mr. Odio: Mr. Mayor, would you withdraw Item 11, please.
Mayor Suarez: Item 11 is withdrawn after this commission session is
withdrawn. I want to pull Item 16.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, if no other commissioner has anything to pull, I then
move the Consent Agenda for adoption.
Mrs. Kennedy: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded. This is a record. Items 1 through 20 with
the exceptions of Item 16 and 11 have been moved as part of the Consent
Agenda. If there's anyone who wishes to be heard for or against any of these
items . . . I pulled 16, yes. If there's anyone who wishes to be heard for or
against any of the Items in the Consent Agenda, those being Items 1 through 20
with the exceptions of 11 and 16, which we'll get to, please step forward.
Let the record reflect that no one has. We have a motion and a second.
Commissioner, do you want to look at those a couple of minutes before we take
a vote? Yes, I did. With the exception of 16 and 17, any others?
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Manager, what is the one on the Florida Housing Cooperative?
Is that on the . . .
Mrs. Kennedy: No, that's not on the Consent That's on the personal
appearances at the end.
1 April 9, 1987
..�
Mr. Odio: Personal appearances.
'kay. Thank you, sir.
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: 83.
Mayor Suarez: Is that his way of saying we might never get to it?
Mr. Plummer: Most likely we're not going to get to it, Mr. Mayor. I assume
everybody has read this memo which has been forthcoming and I'm assuming,
based on this memo, there is no way that the Manager's going to be able to
recommend that that item be approved today.
Mr. Dawkins: Which one?
Mrs. Kennedy: 83?
Mr. Plummer: 63.
Mayor Suarez: Why don't we call the roll on the Consent Agenda. Any other
items need to be pulled? The only exceptions are 16, 17, and 11 which has
been withdrawn. We have a motion and a second. Call the roll please.
THE FOLLOWING RESOLUTIONS WERE INTRODUCED BY COMMISSIONER PLUMMER,
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KENNEDY AND PASSED AND ADOPTED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
1.1 ACCEPT BID: EPPERSON CRANES, INC. FOR REMOVING AND TRANSPORTING CITY
RADIO TOWER
RESOLUTION NO. 87-305
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BID OF EPPERSON CRANES,
INC. FOR REMOVING AND TRANSPORTING TO CITY PROPERTY
THE CITY'S RADIO TOWER WHICH IS NO LONGER IN USE AND
IS LOCATED AT THE FORMER FAA BUILDING AT MIAMI
INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF GENERAL
SERVICES ADMINISTRATION AT A PROPOSED COST OF
$17,896.00; ALLOCATING FUNDS THEREFOR FROM THE
1986-87 COMMUNICATION SERVICES DIVISION FUNDS
ACCOUNT #429401-PROJECT CODE 314021; AUTHORIZING THE
CITY MANAGER TO INSTRUCT THE CHIEF PROCUREMENT
OFFICER TO ISSUE A PURCHASE ORDER FOR THIS SERVICE.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and
on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
2 April 9, 1987
1.2 ACCEPT BID: MIAMI RUG COMPANY FOR CARPETING
RESOLUTION NO. 87-306
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BID OF MIAMI RUG COMPANY
FOR FURNISHING AND INSTALLATION OF APPROXIMATELY
5000 SQUARE YARDS OF CARPETING, CUSHION AND RELATED
MATERIAL ON A CONTRACT BASIS FOR ONE (1) YEAR
RENEWABLE ANNUALLY TO THE DEPARTMENT OF GENERAL
SERVICES ADMINISTRATION AT A TOTAL ESTIMATED FIRST
YEAR COST OF $75,750.00; ALLOCATING FUNDS THEREFOR
FROM THE 1986-67 PROPERTY MAINTENANCE DIVISION FUND
ACCOUNT CODE #420401-670; AUTHORIZING THE CITY
MANAGER TO INSTRUCT THE CHIEF PROCUREMENT OFFICER TO
ISSUE PURCHASE ORDERS FOR THESE MATERIALS.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and
on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
1.3 ACCEPT BID: CHASTAIN FENCE CO. FOR FENCING
RESOLUTION NO. 87-307
A RESOLUTION A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BID OF
CHASTAIN FENCE CO., INC. FOR REMOVING THE OLD
FENCING, AND FURNISHING AND INSTALLING NEW FENCING
AT FIRE STATION #6 FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF GENERAL
SERVICES ADMINISTRATION AT A PROPOSED COST OF
$4,658.00; ALLOCATING FUNDS THEREFOR FROM THE 1986-
87 PROPERTY MAINTENANCE DIVISION FUNDS, REPAIR AND
MAINTENANCE SERVICES/OUTSIDE #420401-670;
AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO INSTRUCT THE CHIEF
PROCUREMENT OFFICER TO ISSUE A PURCHASE ORDER FOR
THIS SERVICE.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and
on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
1.4 ACCEPT BID: JUELLE INC. AND DELTA DEMOLITION INC. FOR DEMOLITION
SERVICES
RESOLUTION NO. 87-308
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BID OF JUELLE, INC. AT A
PROPOSED COST OF $19,498.00 AND DELTA DEMOLITION,
INC. AT A PROPOSED COST OF $14,025.00 FOR FURNISHING
DEMOLITION SERVICES FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF BUILDING
AND ZONING AT A TOTAL PROPOSED COST OF $33,523.00;
ALLOCATING FUNDS THEREFO$RFROM THE BUILDING & ZONING
DEMOLITION FUND ACCOUNT CODE #560502-340-110035 WITH
RECOVERY OF SAID AMOUNT TO BE ACCOMPLISHED THROUGH
NORMAL LIEN ENFORCEMENT PROCEEDINGS; AUTHORIZING THE
CITY MANAGER TO INSTRUCT THE CHIEF PROCUREMENT
OFFICER TO ISSUE PURCHASE ORDERS FOR THIS SERVICE.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and
on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
3 April 9, 1987
1.5 ACCEPT BID: PERKINS POWER CORP. FOR MARINA DIESEL ENGINE
RESOLUTION NO. 87-309
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BID OF PERKINS POWER
CORP. FOR THE FURNISHING OF ONE (1) MARINE DIESEL
ENGINE TO THE DEPARTMENT OF PARKS, RECREATION AND
PUBLIC FACILITIES AT A TOTAL PROPOSED COST OF
$8,182.00; ALLOCATING FUNDS THEREFOR FROM THE 1986-
87 DINNER KEY MARINA OPERATING BUDGET CODE 490102-
840; AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO INSTRUCT THE
CHIEF PROCUREMENT OFFICER TO ISSUE A PURCHASE ORDER
FOR THIS�EQUIPMENT.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and
on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
1.6 ACCEPT BID: NORTON ENGINEERING FOR SANITARY SEWER PUMPING STATION
RESOLUTION NO. 87-310
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BID OF NORTON ENGINEERING
CONTRACTORS, INC. FOR THE FURNISHING OF ONE (1)
SANITARY SEWER PUMPING STATION TO THE DEPARTMENT OF
PUBLIC WORKS AT A TOTAL PROPOSED COST OF $25,850.00;
ALLOCATING FUNDS THEREFOR FROM THE BAYFRONT PARKS
REDEVELOPMENT, DESIGN & DEVELOPMENT (CIP PROJECT
#331302); AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO INSTRUCT
THE CHIEF PROCUREMENT OFFICER TO ISSUE A PURCHASE
ORDER FOR THIS EQUIPMENT.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and
on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
1.7 AUTHORIZE CONTRACT WITH DAVID H. GRIFFITH AND ASSOCIATES TO PREPARE A
CENTRAL SERVICES COST ALLOCATION PLAN
RESOLUTION NO. 87-311
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO
AUTHORIZE A CONTRACT, SUBJECT TO THE CITY ATTORNEY'S
APPROVAL AS TO FORM AND CORRECTNESS, WITH THE FIRM
OF DAVID H. GRIFFITH & ASSOCIATES, LTD., TO PREPARE
A CENTRAL SERVICES COST ALLOCATION PLAN; WITH FUNDS
THEREFOR ALLOCATED IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED
$15,000, FROM SPECIAL PROGRAMS AND ACCOUNTS.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and
on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
4 April 9, 1987
1.8 AUTHORIZE MANAGER TO ENTER INTO SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH ARTHUR ANDERSON
AND CO. TO ANALYZE FINANCIAL VIABILITY OF PROPOSALS FOR THE 2640 SOUTH
BAYSHORE DRIVE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT PROJECT
RESOLUTION NO. 87-312
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER
INTO A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT, IN A FORM
ACCEPTABLE TO THE CITY ATTORNEY, WITH ARTHUR
ANDERSEN & CO., CERTIFIED PUBLIC ACCOUNTANTS, WITH
PARTICIPATION OF MINORITY -OWNED ACCOUNTING FIRMS OF
SHARPTON, BRUNSON & CO. AND VERDEJA, IRIONDO &
GRAVIER,' TO ANALYZE THE FINANCIAL VIABILITY OF
PROPOSALS TO BE SUBMITTED IN RESPONSE TO THE REQUEST
FOR PROPOSALS FOR THE 2640 SOUTH BAYSHORE DRIVE
UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT PROJECT; AUTHORIZING
COMPENSATION FROM THE PROPERTY AND LEASE MANAGEMENT
ENTERPRISE FUND, TO BE REIMBURSED TO THE CITY BY THE
SUCCESSFUL PROPOSER, FOR SERVICES NOT TO EXCEED AN
AMOUNT OF $45,000, TO BE DETERMINED BY THE NUMBER OF
PROPOSALS SUBMITTED AND ANALYZED, PLUS OUT-OF-POCKET
EXPENSES NOT TO EXCEED AN AMOUNT OF $2,500, FOR THE
PERIOD COMMENCING UPON EXECUTION OF AN AGREEMENT AND
TERMINATING UPON COMPLETION OF PROFESSIONAL
SERVICES; FURTHER PROVIDING THAT 45% OF DUE AMOUNT
BE PAID TO THE MINORITY -OWNED SUBCONSULTING FIRMS
PARTICIPATING IN THE ANALYSIS OF PROPOSALS.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and
on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
1.9 APPROVE FACILITY MANAGEMENT GROUP, INC. (FMG) TO OPERATE AND MANAGE THE
CITY OF MIAMI/UNIVERSITY OF MIAMI JAMES L. KNIGHT INTERNATIONAL CENTER
(CONVENTION CENTER)
RESOLUTION NO. 87-313
A RESOLUTION APPROVING AND ADOPTING THE
RECOMMENDATION OF THE CITY MANAGER THAT FACILITY
MANAGEMENT GROUP, INC. ("FMG") BE SELECTED TO
OPERATE AND MANAGE THE CITY OF MIAMI/UNIVERSITY OF
MIAMI JAMES L. KNIGHT INTERNATIONAL CENTER FOR A
FIVE YEAR PERIOD BEGINNING APRIL 15, 1987 AT AN
ANNUAL COST OF $150,000 SUBJECT TO A CONSUMER PRICE
INDEX ADJUSTMENT UPON THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS SET
FORTH IN FMG'S APRIL 1, 1982 AGREEMENT WITH THE
CITY; ALLOCATING FUNDS THEREFOR FROM THE DEPARTMENT
OF CONFERENCES AND CONVENTIONS OPERATING BUDGET; AND
AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE AN AMENDMENT
TO THE AGREEMENT UPON THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS SET
FORTH THEREIN.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and
on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
1.10 AUTHORIZE REIMBURSEMENT OF OUT-OF-POCKET EXPENSES TO SPARBER, SHEVIN,
SHAPO AND HEILBRONNER
RESOLUTION NO. 87-314
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE REIMBURSEMENT OF OUT-
OF-POCKET EXPENSES IN THE AMOUNT OF $10,356.07
INCURRED BY THE LAW FIRM OF SPARBER, SHEVIN, SHAPO
AND HEILBRONNER, P.A., THE CITY'S LEGISLATIVE
CONSULTANTS IN TALLAHASSEE AND WASHINGTON, D.C.,
WITH MONIES FOR SAID EXPENSES BEING ALLOCATED FROM
ACCOUNT 920216-270.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and
on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
5 April 9, 1987
1.11 AUTHORIZE EXECUTION OF AGREEMENT WITH THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA IN
CONNECTION WITH THE BAYFRONT PARK REDEVELOPMENT PROJECT'S FLAGLER STREET
PROMENADE
RESOLUTION NO. 87-315
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE
AN AGREEMENT IN SUBSTANTIALLY THE ATTACHED FORM,
SUPPLEMENTING A PREVIOUS AGREEMENT DATED APRIL 22,
1985, BETWEEN THE CITY OF MIAMI AND THE UNITED
STATES OF AMERICA, IN CONNECTION WITH THE BAYFRONT
PARK REDEVELOPMENT PROJECT, TO PROVIDE BY SAID
SUPPLEMENTAL AGREEMENT FOR CONSTRUCTION OF THE
FLAGLER STREET PROMENADE AND THE TRANSFER OF FEE
SIMPLE TITLE TO AN ADDITIONAL 0.60 ACRES OF UPLAND
PROPERTY LOCATED IN BAYFRONT PARK, (MORE
PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED HEREIN); AND FURTHER
AUTHORIZING A CORRESPONDING INCREASE IN THE PROPERTY
TO BE LEASED TO THE CITY, UPON COMPLETION OF
CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITIES BY THE UNITED STATES OF
AMERICA.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and
on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
1.12 ACCEPT BID: DOUGLAS N. HIGGINS FOR FLAGAMI SANITARY SEWER IMPROVEMENT
RESOLUTION NO. 87-316
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BID OF DOUGLAS N.
HIGGINS, INC. IN THE PROPOSED AMOUNT OF
$2,152,800.00, TOTAL BASE BID OF THE PROPOSAL, FOR
FLAGAMI SANITARY SEWER IMPROVEMENT; WITH MONIES
THEREFOR ALLOCATED FROM CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS
ORDINANCE NO. 10187, AS AMENDED, PROJECT NO. 351173
IN THE AMOUNT OF $2,152,800.00 TO COVER THE CONTRACT
COST; AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A
CONTRACT WITH SAID FIRM.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and
on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
1.13 ACCEPT BID: MADSEN-BARR CORPORATION FOR CITYWIDE SANITARY SEWER
REPLACEMENT PROJECT
RESOLUTION NO. 87-317
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BID OF MADSEN-BARR
CORPORATION IN THE PROPOSED AMOUNT OF $493,560.70,
TOTAL BASE BID OF THE PROPOSAL, FOR CITYWIDE
SANITARY SEWER REPLACEMENT PROJECT - N.W. 8 STREET
ROAD; WITH MONIES THEREFOR ALLOCATED FROM "CITYWIDE
SANITARY SEWER EXTENSION IMPROVEMENTS - FY 086"
ACCOUNT, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS ORDINANCE NO. 10187,
PROJECT NO. 351178 IN THE AMOUNT OF $493,560.70 TO
COVER THE CONTRACT COST; AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY
MANAGER TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT WITH SAID FIRM.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and
on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
6 April 9, 1987
1.14 ACCEPT COMPLETED WORK: IDEAL ROOFING AND SHEET METAL WORKS INC. FOR FIRE
STATION NO. 4 REROOFING
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A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE COMPLETED WORK OF IDEAL
ROOFING AND SHEET METAL WORKS, INC. AT A TOTAL COST
OF $60,077.00 FOR FIRE STATION NO. 4 - REROOFING
C.I.P. PROJECT NO. 313108 AND AUTHORIZING A FINAL
PAYMENT OF $6,601.70
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and
on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
1.15 ACCEPT PLAT: "FROGS LEAP"
RESOLUTION NO. 87-319
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE PLAT ENTITLED FROGS LEAP,
A SUBDIVISION IN THE CITY OF MIAMI; AND ACCEPTING
THE DEDICATION SHOWN ON SAID PLAT; AND ACCEPTING THE
COVENANT TO RUN WITH THE LAND POSTPONING THE
IMMEDIATE CONSTRUCTION OF CERTAIN IMPROVEMENTS UNTIL
REQUIRED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS; AND
AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER AND THE
CITY CLERK TO EXECUTE THE PLAT AND PROVIDING FOR THE
RECORDATION OF SAID PLAT IN THE PUBLIC RECORDS OF
DADE COUNTY, FLORIDA.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and
on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
1.16 ACCEPT IN ANNUAL CONTRIBUTIONS OF $2,242,752 FROM DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING
AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT (HUD)
RESOLUTION NO. 87-320
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ACCEPT,
_ IN ANNUAL CONTRIBUTIONS, CONTRACT AUTHORITY IN THE
AMOUNT OF $2,242,752 UNDER THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF
HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT SECTION 8 MODERATE
REHABILITATION HOUSING PROGRAM, AND FURTHER
AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO AND
EXECUTE ALL NECESSARY DOCUMENTS IN ORDER TO
IMPLEMENT THE PROGRAM.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and
on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
1.17 AUTHORIZE CLOSURE OF STREETS FOR COMMITTEE ON BEAUTIFICATION AND
ENVIRONMENT PARADE
RESOLUTION NO. 87-321
A RESOLUTION CONCERNING A PARADE TO BE CONDUCTED BY
THE CITY OF MIAMI COMMITTEE ON BEAUTIFICATION AND
ENVIRONMENT ON MAY 1, 1987 AUTHORIZING THE CLOSURE
OF DESIGNATED STREETS TO THROUGH VEHICULAR TRAFFIC
SUBJECT TO THE ISSUANCE OF PERMITS BY THE
DEPARTMENTS OF POLICE AND FIRE, RESCUE AND
INSPECTION SERVICES.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and
on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
NOTE FOR THE RECORD: The minutes of the meetings of December 11, 1986,
January 8 and 22, 1987, were approved.
7 April 9, 1987
2. DISCUSSION AND DEFERRAL OF PROPOSED RESOLUTION ORDERING SILVER BLUFF
HIGHWAY IMPROVEMENTS
Mayor Suarez: Don, do you know why I pulled Item 16? I may be confused about
these improvements at Silver Bluff. Are these the ones we were talking about
the other day at the association meeting?
Mr. Don Cather: No, we've had a public meeting on this and now that you've
ordered, we'll have a*bigger meeting confirming it before the confirmation.
Mayor Suarez: These are not the three improvements you showed me at the
association meeting that day; or George was actually the one that was there.
Mr. Cather: Well, Silver Bluff is over here by 27th Avenue.
Mayor Suarez: Right, there were three patches of street improvements of which
he mentioned that neighbors had responded favorably to one and not the other
two or to the other two but not the one, whatever.
Mr. Cather: Yes, that's why we're having - once it's ordered, then we'll
public hearing on it before it is confirmed.
Mayor Suarez: I see, we go through the process of designating the assessments
of the properties against which they will be assessed and then we have a
public hearing?
Mr. Cather: Yes.
Mayor Suarez: And am I guaranteed that we're going to have that public
hearing here?
Mr. Cather: You are absolutely guaranteed.
Mr. Dawkins: I'm guaranteeing that right now . . . . I'm moving that it be
deferred until I hear from the residents.
Mr. Cather: Excuse me, commissioner. From who?
Mr. Dawkins: From the residents.
Mayor Suarez: In the past, when we did the Roads improvements, and I mean the
improvements to the Roads Area, not to the .... did we first approve the
assessment designation and then go the hearings?
Mr. Cather: No, you first of all ordered putting the people on notice that
this is a proposed public hearing; a proposed public improvement. Then a
public hearing will be held at your request at which time, if it is favorably
acted upon at the public hearing, then you can confirm it and then it will be
on a possible assessment after it is built. It has to be ordered, then
confirmed.
Mayor Suarez: This resolution does nothing more than to put them on notice
that we might make the improvements in their neighborhood?
Mr. Cather: That is correct.
Mayor Suarez: Wow. Is that all right with you?
Mr. Dawkins: It's all right with me if you change the word "shall" to "may".
It says here, "the property against which special assessment shall be made".
Okay? If you change this to "may be made in case the residents approve", you
got me.
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Mayor Suarez: Any problems with that, madame city attorney?
Mr. Cather: If it's all right with the city attorney, it's all right with me.
8 April 9, 1987
Mr. Dawkins: Well, I'll tell you what, you and the city attorney can make up r
your mind. I know how I'm voting, now you and the city attorney can say
anything you want to say.
Mayor Suarez: Let's see if we can make the change right now and we can get it
voted on. Madame city attorney, is there any problem with doing that?
Mr. Bob Clark: The charter language mandates that you inform them that this
Mr. Dawkins: All right, then I move that this be deferred until the residents
are heard and I know how the residents feel and then you may put it on as the
charger dictates.
Mayor Suarez: So moved.
Mr. Plummer: Second.
Mayor Suarez: I was going to second it if you didn't. Okay, motion is
seconded. Any discussion? Call the roll.
UPON MOTION DULY MADE BY COMMISSIONER DAWKINS AND SECONDED BY VICE MAYOR
PLUMMER, THE FOREGOING ITEM WAS DEFERRED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE%
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
3. DISCUSSION AND DEFERRAL OF PROPOSED RESOLUTION ORDERING BUENA VISTA
HIGHWAY IMPROVEMENT
Mayor Suarez: Item 17.
Mr. Dawkins: Same thing. Are the residents familiar with what we're doing?
Mayor Suarez: Don, have you had any input on Buena Vista?
Mr. Dawkins: I move that that be deferred too.
Mayor Suarez: Any resident input on Buena Vista, Don? Item 17.
Mr. Cather: No, we will have a public hearing after the ordering.
Mayor Suarez: I guess we're going to do it the other way around and have the
hearings first. Okay, we have a motion commissioner?
Mr. Dawkins: Yes, move.
Mr. Plummer: Seconded.
Mayor Suarez: Seconded. Any discussion? Call the roll.
UPON MOTION DULY MADE BY COMMISSIONER DAWKINS AND SECONDED BY VICE MAYOR
PLUMMER, THE FOREGOING ITEM WAS DEFERRED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
9 April 9, 1987
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4. DISCUSSION OF POLICE PROTECTION AT BAYSIDE SPECIALTY LtNinh
Mayor Suarez: Yes?
Mr. Dawkins: Mr. Mayor . . .
Mayor Suarez: Commissioner Dawkins.
Mr. Dawkins: I'd like to indulge on the commission for three things.
Mayor Suarez: Absolutely.
Mr. Dawkins: Mr. Manager.
Mr. Odio: Yes, sir.
Mr. Dawkins: Would you have someone who's in charge of the security detail at
Bayside here this afternoon so that this commission can find out what they
need. Yesterday there were three purse snatchings and it appears to me that
we need walkie talkies, or something, so that the officers can call ahead and
say what the individual has on and how he can stop him, etc., etc. Now I
walked through yesterday to ask "why" and they said that, "you know, we're
still gearing up" and they don't have any chargers for the walkie talkies,
etc., etc. We're just gearing up so I think that we need to hear from you
what you need and this commission needs to make it available to you.
Mr. Plummer: Is that the city of Miami policemen?
Mr. Dawkins: Yes, sir. We got a whole damn ... we got a detail over there.
No, they don't have no chargers for the walkie talkies.
Mr. Odio: Commissioner, we had ....yesterday we had over 50 police officers
there. I'll bring you a report this afternoon. I'll have somebody here.
Mr. Dawkins: You bring back this afternoon and let us give you what you need.
Okay? That's all. They don't have chargers. The other thing is . . .
Mayor Suarez: On that same line, you know some of those security fellows over
i there on behalf of the Bayside Company may need a little orientation session.
It didn't seem like they knew exactly what they were doing, some of them . . .
A manual from the city with the pictures of all the commissioners and the city
-� manager and the fire chief might help them ....a map of the city ....
Mr. Plummer: I got a better idea. Why don't we give the in-house expert,
I Rodney Beretta, the authority to go down and train them. He knows how to do
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it.
j Mr. Dawkins: What Plummer's saying when I walked up there they say, "You not
supposed to be up here." I say, "Beg your pardon." They say, "You not
supposed to be here." I say, "Yes, I am." They say, "No, you not". I looked
around and there was no other us up there, so I guess they just thought I
wasn't supposed to be there.
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} Mr. Plummer: It's all right; once I vouch for you, they'll let you up.
Mr. Dawkins: You see, where I'm from a fellow comes along and says, "He's a
good boy," they said, "fine let him in."
10 April 9, 1987
5. APPROVE SELECTION OF NATIONAL PANEL TO ADDRESS ALLEGED DISCRIMINATION IN
FIRE DEPARTMENT (See label 010)
Mr. Dawkins: Fellow commissioners, on this, I'm still concerned about this
discrimination in the Fire Department and the manager has come up with an idea
that he present each of you with whatever he has projected proposal.
Mr. Plummer: 451,000 tab.
Mr. Odio: You have two options there; the EEOC or a national panel of
experts. The EEOC won't cost anything.
Mr. Dawkins: What are you recommending?
Mr. Odio: I'd rather have the national panel of experts there; they have no
ties to any organization even though it costs $51,000, they, I feel, would be
totally objective.
Mr. Plummer: Well, my only problem is, are we spending $51,000 to try to
develop "what is the problem," or is for $51,000 they're going to give us some
solutions?
Mr. Odio: They will give us ....
Mr. Dawkins: Hold it, hold it. We already know the problem - there is
discrimination in the Fire Department. That is the problem.
Mr. Plummer: Miller, what I meant was - if all they're going to do is come
down here and tell us "we got a problem" for $51,000, we already know that.
Okay? What I'm saying is, if we're going to spend $51,000 to have a national
concern come down here and say, "Okay, we recognize the problem and here's
$51,000 worth of solutions it's money well spent.
Mr. Odio: I believe they will come up with recommendations on how we address
the problem, yes.
Mr. Plummer: If that's the case, then I think it's money well spent. I don't
need anybody to come here and tell me what Commissioner Dawkins has already
brought forth.
Mr. Odio: There is a second part to this and you have a second memorandum on
this, is that we propose to, that we hire a consultant to develop with us an
affirmative action plan that includes a promotion system that is fair to all.
Mr. Plummer: Well, that was very very well defined on the memo as
"alternatives" and I think that's something this commission can't take up in
one day where we addressed it over a period of years.
Mayor Suarez: Well, he's saying about hiring an expert, let me tell you for
myself, and it's not trying to be chintzy about the expenditure to solve
problems in a department that obviously has some problems, but I don't see the
need for a national panel - just for myself - and expending that kind of money
to have somebody that's going to come to Miami once again; they're not going
to know what's going on in our city, it's going to take them two months to
figure out. I'd much rather go with EEOC on that part. I would, for myself
at least, accept the city manager's recommendation that a consultant is needed
for something as complex as the whole validation of an affirmative action plan
to substitute one that we've had for I don't know how many years. That makes
some sense to me but having a national panel of experts and having to spend
money on bringing them down here to solve our Fire Department's issues, I
can't see it.
Mr. Dawkins: Which EEOC are you talking about?
Ms. Hattie Daniels: This would be the City of Miami. It's located in the
City of Miami but it is tied to the national. It's a regional office of a
national Equal Employment Opportunity Commission.
Mr. Dawkins: The same one that Reagan and the rest of them is trying to
abolish affirmative action? That's the EEO you asking me to bring down here?
Ms. Daniels: That's the Justice Department, Commissioner Dawkins, but the
EEOC still does investigations and they would require that individuals come
down and make their charges and they would decide whether or not a systemic
type of investigation is necessary.
Mayor Suarez: The regional office is in Atlanta and they ....
Ms. Daniels: No, they're located in Miami.
Mayor Suarez: But the cases, after they go through the Miami office then go
to Atlanta. My experience has been is that they're fantastic in investigating
those things.
Mr. Plummer: Don't I recall some of the people standing up before this
commission saying they've already been that route and they were turned down
and did not get any satisfaction from those people at all. Didn't I hear
that?
Ms. Daniels: Okay, the only one that I'm aware of that actually filed an EEOC
complaint was Mr. McCray and we're still trying to determine what happened to
his complaint. It never went from the intake stage to an actual complaint.
He would be the only individual that actually filed an EEOC complaint as of
this date.
Mr. Plummer: May I ask the chief what his recommendation is?
Mr. Odio: Before he says EEOC will not give us solutions, I don't believe.
They will find that we done something wrong. Findings, and that's not what I
think we're looking for.
Mr. Dawkins: That's right. Findings, I already know ...
Ms. Kennedy: That's right.
Mr. Dawkins: I need solutions - we need solutions. The commission is telling
you, "we want to know how to address the problem to make our Fire Department
better." We got the best one there is; what can we do to make it better? I
don't need nobody telling me that I already know there's discrimination in the
Fire Department. Okay? We know that.
Mr. Odio: Mr. Mayor, I think the $51,000 might be well spent if we can put
this issue to rest and find solutions to the problem.
Ms. Kennedy: Well, if we can find solutions, I agree.
Mr. Dawkins: Is the $51,000 coming out of the Fire Department's budget?
Mr. Odio: Yes, sir.
Ms. Kennedy: Mr. manager, if we can find solutions ....
Mr. Dawkins: They're gonna spend $51,000 anyway, so let them spend it here.
Mayor Suarez: Let's get a little input from the chief.
Chief Colonel Duke: My concerns with using anyone local, even though we think
we've identified what the problems are, we don't know what's really caused the
problems in some cases. And a good in-depth review by a complete unbiased
group, preferably from around the area here, but outside would be great to
Identify those problems, but, further to develop long range solutions to the
problems is what the Fire Department, I think, really needs at this point.
Mr. Plummer: So you're recommending spend the money.
Chief Duke: I think that we're going to spend a great deal more than 451,000
In this endeavor. I think that we're probably looking at closer to $150,000
with a finding group and then the further ongoing training.
Mr. Plummer: Pay me now or pay me later.
12 April 9, 1987
Chief Duke: Exactly, and that's what we've gone through for the last since
1976 when these were first recommended. You know some sensitivity training on
cne sire Department to address these problems. And now its come down to that
and the Fire Department's on a hold out there and whatever we do as far as an
outside committee coming in, non associated with the City of Miami, I think
would probably be the best first step at this.
Mayor Suarez: Hattie, do you recommend that too?
Ms. Daniels: We have another, an additional step with that. What the city
manager has approved is a new affirmative action plan. That will require that
the entire city be re=evaluated.
Mayor Suarez: Okay, let me just say ...just to correct something for the
record. He has not approved the new affirmative action plan.
Ms. Daniels: No, no, I said a proposal. I'm sorry, a proposal for one.
Mayor Suarez% The process of looking for a new affirmative action plan.
Mr. Odio: No, no, to develop a plan that is acceptable to you, to the units,
and everybody ....
Mayor Suarez: And its conceivable, frankly, that it comes back to this
commission and if we don't find that its any better than the existing one
Mr. Odio: Well now, one thing we'd have to do, and I hope the unions
understand this, we have to comply with the consent decree.
Mayor Suarez: We have to comply with the consent decree; we have to comply
with our contractual obligations with the unions.
Mr. Odio: Right.
Mr. Dawkins: And you also have to comply to the humanistic part of it to the
citizens.
Mayor Suarez: Absolutely, that's the most important.
Ms. Daniels: We have already looked at various proposals from a number of
organizations. I don't know, do you have this memo regarding the promotional
procedure?
Mayor Suarez: The existing promotional procedure?
Ms. Daniels: No, the discussion.
Mr. Plummer: We just got it.
Ms. Daniels: You just got it. What we are proposing right now is to redo,
re -look at everything in terms of hiring, promotion, the testing procedure,
disciplinary actions, everything that would impact on the affirmative action -
city-wide and within each department. That would also cover the Fire
Department. And when that particular process takes place, we would be looking
at the various issues that the Black fire fighters and others have brought up
that is still a concern. They're still concerned about retention in the fire
college. They're concerned about the disciplinary action so all of those
kinds of things that contribute to the perception of discrimination will be
addressed. We have already reviewed several proposals and we are proposing
that we move ahead with that real analysis and that will also identify the
kinds of steps that we need to take to propose the solutions to this
particular problem.
Mayor Suarez: Sounds like you're setting us up for a bottom line of how much
its going to cost.
Ms. Daniels: Well, bottom line for the initial part, we have one proposal
that would cost us 47,000 to look at all of the statistics, all of the
policies, the procedures. And then the next part would require us to move
ahead with recommending certain kinds of procedures for solutions. So we are
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moving in that direction. So one part, you're saying that you would perhaps
like to have a panel identify the issues and then the second part would be the
affirmative action plan development which would address everything.
Mayor Suarez: We're not trying to confuse those two. The panel is the panel
we were addressing before the national panel recommended and I don't know why
the figure $51,000 - it's a unique figure.
Mr. Odio: We calculated the time they would be here; make it $60,000, round
figures.
Mayor Suarez: Why 51?
Mr. Odio: Why don't you make it 60, round figures.
Mayor Suarez: We're going to give the impression its going to be exactly 51.
Mr. Dawkins: Since someone in here brought up contractual obligations, does
this address the drug testing and the positive results and what's going to
happen if someone tests positive since you all are talking about contractual
obligations and etc.
Mr. Odio: We have a contract with the union and they are complying with the
drug testing as of this moment and whatever findings of drugs in any
individual, there is a process to be followed that we have in place at this
time. And with the punishment that goes with it.
Mr. Dawkins: And what is that punishment?
Mr. Odio: In the case of the Fire Department, you have a rehabilitation
period. If they are caught again and they have to be tested every so many
weeks...
Mr. Dawkins: Well how can we have one - why can a fireman be tested positive
and go into a drug rehab program and the police test positive and he's fired?
Mr. Odio: The police union was a different negotiations altogether.
Mr. Dawkins: It's still the City of Miami.
Mr. Odio: Yes, sir, but in the case of the police, I was able to negotiate
where they would be immediately.
Mr. Dawkins: You know what, Mr. manager? See, this makes in my opinion, I
hope, and if nobody up here doesn't share this opinion with me it doesn't
matter. This makes very bad relations between union and management, allright?
The policemen came in and in good faith negotiated a contract with you, got
out of the way so that the City of Miami would not be held hostage as we
negotiated a contract. They said, "fine, we want to get this behind us so
that we could be about the business of policing the City of Miami." And
because they came in and in good faith negotiated in good faith and got out of
the way, now you are going to hold them hostage and you going to give somebody
else something that the police, in my opinion, should have also. Or nobody
should have it.
Mayor Suarez: We may as well send a signal to the Fire Department that we're
not going to approve any kind of different testing program for them than we've
approved for the police unless somebody can justify the difference.
Mayor Suarez: We understand they have a contract that's in effect until ....
Mr. Dawkins: When does it expire? It's on its last year?
INAUDIBLE BACKGROUND COMMENTS NOT ENTERED INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD.
Mr. Odio: We're beginning negotiations now for the next contract.
Mr. Dawkins: But you see, that's fine. But my biggest problem is the police
is being penalized
Mr. Odio: Commissioner, I don't think we're penalizing. I think if we find a
policeman that is taking drugs, he should be fired. That's the way I feel
about it.
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Mr. Dawkins: Well, what's the difference between .... all right,
they're both life saving units. What's the difference? What makes it all
..6,,,. L.,& o uo ue amo►cing pot and keep his job and for a policeman to
be smoking pot and lose his?
Mr. Odio: I think the basic difference - I don't want to get into philosophy
but the Police Department is charged to enforcing the law and if they don't
keep the law, then we're in trouble. They're charged with enforcing the law
Mr. Dawkins: What happens if every policeman shadows every fireman and catch
him smoking pot and put him in jail? Now the policeman is enforcing the law.
What you gonna do with the fireman who got busted for smoking pot?
Mr. Odio: If they catch a fireman like they did Mr. Payne somewhere up in
Baltimore selling drugs, he's going to jail, Mr. Commissioner.
Mr. Dawkins: No, no, no, we're talking about recreational users. We're not
talking about the pushers.
Mr. Odio: They should go to jail too. I don't know what the punishment is
for smoking pot ....
Mr. Dawkins: Mr. Mayor, I've held up your meeting long enough. Now this is
something we can get into - schedule this for a public hearing at the next
meeting, please sir.
Mayor Suarez: And I can imagine when the next round of negotiations with the
unions begin that this issue will be taken up.
Mr. Dawkins: You want me to move this, Mr. Manager? I move that we allow the
manager to proceed....
Mr. Plummer: Second.
Mr. Dawkins:.... with the modifications made by J. L. Plummer that they must
bring results and not identify more problems.
Mr. Plummer: No, no, no. Not results, solutions.
Mr. Dawkins: Solutions, I say, instead of identifying problems.
Mayor Suarez: We've got a motion and a second and the cap is implicit or
explicit that you not spend more than $60,000. Any further discussion? Call
the roll.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Dawkins, who moved
its adoption:
MOTION NO. 87-322
A MOTION APPROVING THE SELECTION OF A NATIONAL PANEL OF
EXPERTS TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE OF ALLEGED DISCRIMINATION IN
THE FIRE DEPARTMENT; FURTHER DIRECTING THE ADMINISTRATION
TO ALLOCATE AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $60,000 TO COVER SAID
SERVICES WITH THE PROVISO THAT THIS OFFICIAL REPORT SHALL
ADDRESS AND CONTAIN SUGGESTED SOLUTIONS TO THE PROBLEM.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
is April 9, 1987
6. PRESENTATION OF FAIR HOUSING MONTH
Proclamation: Fair Housing Month:
the City of Miami
President of the
observance of this
housing.
Presented to Jerry Gereaux, Director of
Housing Dept. and Patricia Mellerson,
Community Housing Resources Board in
nationwide celebration to promote fair
7. DISCUSSION OF PARKING AT BAYSIDE SPECIALTY CENTER
Mayor Suarez: Let me ask Roger a question. I see him back there, on the
opening of Bayside and the parking. Some of the tenants were asking about the
possibility of validation systems. Have you thought about one where they can
... One of them said outright to me that they would validate and pay for, and
I'm referring to Nick Aguirre, who's honorary consul from Ecuador. He's got a
little store there and he said he would validate and pay for any customers
that came to his store and asked for validation. Have you thought about a
validation system?
Roger Carlton: Yes, sir, Mr. Mayor. If I might just take a minute to give you
a report on the parking situation yesterday. As you would expect with almost
100,000 people, it got pretty wild.
Mayor Suarez: Does that figure make sense to you from the perspective of the
parking?
Mr. Carlton: Absolutely. We parked some 8,000 cars in and out of a total of
1,800 municipal spaces. The turnover was enormous, the revenue generation was
much more than expected. The worst lines in the garage were about twenty
minutes right after the concert, which is much better than expected. The
garage never did fill up. There was always enough room in that garage. The
problem was that the streets just couldn't handle the load coming in and out.
Your approval of Port Boulevard relo ....
Mayor Suarez: Well, the little cloverleaf there inside the project was a bit
of a problem too. There was a tram parked at one point and it blocked one
whole lane. I don't know if you could ...
Mr. Carlton: Your approval of the Port Boulevard relocation is what made it
work at all, and ...
Mayor Suarez: Otherwise it would have been a real mess.
Mr. Carlton: Yes, I think what we need to do obviously we started out with
an initial rate that was set in discussions with Rouse with the goal of trying
to have the garage make a slight profit this year, keeping in mind that the
city earns 502 of that profit. The lot to the north, you get 100% of the
profits right now so ....
Mayor Suarez: 50% - with 50% going to Rouse is what you're saying?
Mr. Carlton: Yes sir. Well Rouse is totally on hook for the debt, don't
forget that. There's no risk for the city there. Now, I think what we need
to do as things settle down and we need to get through this weekend obviously,
is to take a look at valet service, to take a look at, because the restaurants
are clamoring for that. We have to take a look at the validation system for
people and we have to take a look at monthlies for employees. Right now the
garage functions purely as short term for customers and all of those we're
very open minded on, we'll work with Rouse - we'd like the manager to be
Involved in that, but so far it's working very very well.
Mayor Suarez: Think in terms of the possibility of the garage having a
maximum five instead of six dollars. We did hear some complaints about the
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expenditure and the cost of parking. For people that are thinking of being
there all day, if they could think that it's a little more reasonable than six
dollars. I know its super favorable in comparison to other garages, but its a
way to get t ne►u auc"stuiueu to the system.
Mr. Carlton: I just want to give you the bottom line on that. Less than 1%
of the customers stay up to the six dollar rate. So it would be an image
thing clearly, but its really not the real issue.
Mayor Suarez: I£ we could tell them publicly this will never cost you more
than five dollars or whatever.
Mr. Plummer: Yes, but Mr. Mayor, in all fairness, nobody likes to pay parking
fees. We understand that. But damn, I paid $3.50 for an ice cream cone.
Now, you know, if I can afford the $3.50 for an ice cream cone, I can afford
the dollar for parking and I think, you know we've always used that more so -
you don't like my ice cream cone? In your honor, it was chocolate.
Mayor Suarez: It wasn't sold to you by Cheech and Chong, was it?
Mr. Plummer: I just don't think its unreasonable. The only area that you've
stated here Roger that I think you need to give a lot of serious consideration
to is that employee parking. I would hate to see that garage, you know that's
what everybody clamoring - there's not going to be enough parking. And I
think its more advantageous to the store owners that they get their employees
to park outside of the thing and walk in than it is to utilize those spaces
where customers can't get to them, so I think you need to dwell on that quite
a bit.
Mr. Carlton: J.L., I have some good news on that.
Mr. Plummer: Some good news.
Mr. Carlton: The major use of the FEC lot which is the lot north of Port
Boulevard ....
Mr. Plummer: That's the temporary.
Mr. Carlton: Very temporary.
Mr. Plummer: Yes.
Mr. Carlton: But the major use was one bulk customer with 500 cars. We've
just concluded negotiations to move them into the Government Center garage
which will help with the deficit there and free up that entire lot for
employee monthlies at Bayside where the recommended initial rate is $40 a
month. So we're working in that direction.
Mr. Plummer: That's good.
Mr. Odio: Nov that he's here, Mr. Mayor and commissioners, let me inform you
that Public Works is working with Mr. Carlton in identifying which parking
meters stay and which ones don't go and there was a story in the Herald this
morning that was totally distorted and I talked to the radio station, its
typical of Mr. Fedelstein what's his name, to distort what people say he
forget that he was interviewing a radio station guy who had a tape recorder on
and the guy never said that we were scared of him. I have done it in the past
and he will testify to that, that when a merchant complained about parking
meters in front of his establishment we would remove them and put loading zone
in so that they could do business. Now it is sad that we have reporters who
will distort the truth like that guy does.
Mr. Plummer: N0000000..... You mean a Herald reporter would distort the facts?
Ms. Kennedy: The battle of the media.
Mr. Plummer: N00000.... No way, they would never tolerate such ...
Mr. Dawkins: You should be ashamed of yourself to make such an accusation.
You really should. You must apologize for making such a statement like that.
17 April 9, 1987
Mr. Odio: No, no. I don't mean the Herald, I mean Louis Fedelstein Soto who
distorts the truth.
Mr. Plummer: Oh n.,. A
Ms. Kennedy: The battle of the media.
Mr. Odio: The guy has a tape. I want you to hear the tape.
Mr. Dawkins: For what? What is it going to prove?
Mr. Odio: No, because if he had said that I was scared No, if he had
said we were scared of him, the parking meters would be ------ out today.
Mr. Dawkins: Its going to prove business as usual, so what. I'm surprised at
you to go into something like this early this morning. Honestly, I am.
Mr. Carlton: If that's an invitation, I'll be glad to comply.
Mr. Plummer: The nice thing about the manager's statement is, for the next 10
days he'll get all of the editorials and not us.
Mr. Carlton: As I said this morning when I read the article, "Cesar, welcome
to what I've been facing for six years." And, here we go.
Mayor Suarez: Okay, thank you, Roger.
Mr. Carlton: Thank you.
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8. EMERGENCY ORDINANCE: ESTABLISH SPECIAL REVENUE FUND "OFFICER STRESS AND
AWARENESS AND CRISIS INTERVENTION PROGRAM, REGION XIV FY 086 - 187" AND
APPROPRIATE FUNDS FOR SAME
Mayor Suarez: Item 21, Emergency Ordinance.
Mr. Plummer: I move it.
Mayor Suarez: Moved.
Mrs. Kennedy: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Seconded. Any discussion? Read the Ordinance. Call the roll.
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN EMERGENCY ORDINANCE ESTABLISHING A SPECIAL REVENUE
FUND ENTITLED: "OFFICER STRESS AND AWARENESS AND
CRISIS INTERVENTION PROGRAM, REGION XIV FY 186 - 8708
APPROPRIATING FUNDS FOR ITS OPERATION IN AN AMOUNT NOT
TO EXCEED $17,608; AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO
ACCEPT THE $17,608 GRANT AWARD FROM THE STATE OF
FLORIDA; CONTAINING A REPEALER PROVISION AND
SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.
Was introduced by Commissioner Plummer and seconded by Commissioner
Kennedy, for adoption as an emergency measure and dispensing with the
requirement of reading same on two separate days, which was agreed to by the
following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
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April 9, 1987
Whereupon the Commission on motion of Commissioner Plummer and seconded
by Commissioner Kennedy, adopted said ordinance by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Miller j. vawi.i.,o
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
SAID ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO. 10249
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and announced that
copies were available to the members of the City Commission and to the public.
9. EMERGENCY ORDINANCE: ESTABLISH NEW SPECIAL REVENUE FUND "PARKS AND
RECREATION COMPUTERIZATION GRANT" AND APPROPRIATE FUNDS FOR SAME
Mayor Suarez: Item 22.
Mr. Plummer: Move Item 22. Always like to accept money.
Ms. Kennedy: Second and under discussion, Mr. Manager, who is getting
computerized?
Mr. Plummer: Parks and Recreations.
Mr. Odio: Parks and Rec.
Ms. Kennedy: Will that, for example, include day care centers because I found
out the other day they have no computers.
Mr. Odio: If we're going to include the day care centers ....
Ms. Kennedy: Day care centers; are they going to be included?
Walter Golby: Yes, they will be included.
Mr. Plummer: Why would you computerize a day care center?
Mr. Dawkins: This money will go to Samit Roy's budget or will it go to the
Parks and Recreation budget?
Mr. Golby: It will go directly to the Parks and Recreation Department.
Mr. Dawkins: All right. Then Parks and Recreation is going to pay Samit for
the time . . . no, no, you see if we're going to deal in computers, Samit
Roy's section is computers, now why isn't the money going to Samit Roy's
division?
Mr. Golby: He will be involved in the instruction and set up of the computer
so it is comparable or compatible with the existing system.
Mr. Dawkins: Accept the money. Come back and tell me and this commission how
you and your department of Parks and Recreation can get more and better
utilization out of the money than you can in putting it into computers and
that you can do a better job with the computers.
Mr. Plummer: Read the Ordinance.
Note: Commissioner Carollo entered the meeting at 9:41 a.m.
Mr. Plummer: With the stipulation added by Commissioner Dawkins, call the
roll.
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n
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN EMERGENCY ORDINANCE ESTABLISHING A NEW SPECIAL
REVENUE FUND ENTITLED: "kaMs suvL
COMPUTERIZATION GRANT"; APPROPRIATING FUNDS FOR ITS
OPERATION IN THE AMOUNT OF $95,600, CONSISTING OF A
GRANT FROM THE UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF THE
INTERIOR IN THE AMOUNT OF $47,800 AND AN ALLOCATION
FROM THE FY 187 GENERAL FUND. SPECIAL PROGRAMS AND
ACCOUNTS, MATCHING FUNDS FOR GRANTS, IN THE AMOUNT OF
$47,800; AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ACCEPT THE
GRANT AWARD FROM THE UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF
INTERIOR AND TO ENTER INTO THE NECESSARY CONTRACT(S)
AND/OR AGREEMENT(S), IN A FORM ACCEPTABLE TO THE CITY
ATTORNEY, FOR THE ACCEPTANCE OF THE GRANT; CONTAINING
A REPEALER PROVISION AND A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.
Was introduced by Commissioner Plummer and
Kennedy, for adoption as an emergency measure
requirement of reading same on two separate days,
following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
seconded by Commissioner
and dispensing with the
which was agreed to by the
Whereupon the Commission on motion of Commissioner Plummer and seconded
by Commissioner Kennedy, adopted said ordinance by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
SAID ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE N0. 10250.
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and
announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commission and
to the public.
10. RECONSIDER AND REAFFIRM PREVIOUS MOTION FOR NATIONAL PANEL OF EXPERTS TO
ADDRESS ALLEGED DISCRIMINATION IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. (SEE LABEL #5)
Mr. Carollo: Madame Clerk, can you show me voting "yes" of the motion that
was recommended by the manager and the fire chief as far as bringing in an
outside panel to look at the Fire Department?
Mayor Suarez: Commissioner, let's take a whole new vote on that so we can
.... would you move to reconsider and take a new vote on that Commissioner?
Mr. Carollo: So moved.
Mr. Plummer: Seconded.
Mayor Suarez: Seconded. Any discussion? Call the roll.
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The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Carollo, who moved
its adoption:
MOTION NO. 87-323
A MOTION TO RECONSIDER MOTION 87-322, WHICH HAD
APPROVED THE SELECTION OF A NATIONAL PANEL OF EXPERTS
TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE OF ALLEGED DISCRIMINATION IN THE
FIRE DEPARTMENT.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None. —
ABSENT: None.
Mayor Suarez: Yes, now please move the issue again someone.
Mr. Plummer: I moved it before, I'll move it again.
Mayor Suarez: So moved. We have a second?
Mr. Dawkins: Moved what now?
Mayor Suarez: We're going to take another whole vote on the issue so
Commissioner Carollo ...
Mr. Dawkins: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded. Any discussion? Call the roll.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved
its adoption:
MOTION NO. 87-324
A MOTION REAFFIRMING MOTION 87-322, APPROVING THE
SELECTION OF A NATIONAL PANEL OF EXPERTS TO ADDRESS
THE ISSUE OF ALLEGED DISCRIMINATION IN THE FIRE
DEPARTMENT; FURTHER DIRECTING THE ADMINISTRATION TO
ALLOCATE AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $60,000 TO COVER SAID
SERVICES WITH THE PROVISO THAT THIS OFFICIAL REPORT
SHALL ADDRESS AND CONTAIN SUGGESTED SOLUTIONS TO THE
PROBLEM.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Dawkins, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
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11. EMERGENCY ORDINANCE: INCREASE APPROPRIATION FOR "ACQUT^ 'nT^"
AND ASSOCIATED PERIPHERALS"
Mayor Suarez: Twenty-three.
Ms. Kennedy: Move 23.
Mr. Plummer: Second..
Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded.
Mr. Dawkins: Under discussion ....no, I'm sorry, go ahead. It's 24 I got
discussion on.
Mayor Suarez: Call the roll.
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN EMERGENCY ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTION 1 OF ORDINANCE
NO. 10187, ADOPTED DECEMBER 11, 1986, THE CAPITAL
IMPROVEMENT APPROPRIATIONS ORDINANCE, BY INCREASING
THE APPROPRIATION FOR THE PROJECT ENTITLED:
"ACQUISITION OF COMPUTER AND ASSOCIATED PERIPHERALS"
IN THE AMOUNT OF $150,000 FROM CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT
FUND - INTEREST INCOME; CONTAINING A REPEALER
PROVISION AND A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.
Was introduced by Commissioner Kennedy and seconded by Commissioner
Plummer, for adoption as an emergency measure and dispensing with the
requirement of reading same on two separate days, which was agreed to by the
following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
Whereupon the Commission on motion of Commissioner Kennedy and seconded
by Commissioner Plummer, adopted said ordinance by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
SAID ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO. 10251.
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and
announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commission and
to the public.
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12. EMERGENCY ORDINANCE: INCREASE APPROPRIATIONS FOR "LAW ENFORCEMENT TRUST
FUND"
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Mayor Suarez: Item twenty-four.
Mr. Dawkins: Move it.
Mr. Plummer: Second.
Mr. Dawkins: Under discussion....
Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded. Commissioner Dawkins.
Mr. Dawkins: Is there any way, Mr. Manager, that some of these funds can be
used to provide the same equipment and other security needs that might be
needed at Bayside?
Mr. Plummer: As long as they're capital improvements.
Mr. Odio: If it's capital improvements and they are for law enforcement, yes.
Mr. Dawkins: Is the purchase of a hand-held radio recharger, is that a
capital item?
Ms. Dougherty: If it's not a general operating budget.
Mr. Odio: Commissioner I promise you that if those is all we need, we will
have them there. We have enough of those things.
Mr. Plummer: Miller, let me assure you that when we made this transition to
the 800, we bought adequate chargers. Now if they were not at the scene,
that's probably where they dropped the ball. We have many, many multiple
chargers that were bought in that package of the 800 ....
Mr. Odio: In fact, we might look at this. They have given us... They have an
office space in the parking garage that can be used...
Mr. Dawkins: That's where I was and I did not see the chargers in there. And
no desk, no chairs, no nothing.
Mr. Plummer: They just didn't bring them.
Mr. Odio: I'll make sure that we get established on.....
Mr. Plummer: Just didn't bring them, that's all.
Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded. Any further discussion? Call the roll.
Read the ordinance.
AT THIS POINT, THE CITY ATTORNEY READ THE ORDINANCE INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD.
Mr. Plummer: Excuse me, under discussion. Mr. Manager, what is this money
going to be used for now? We understand you're putting it in the fund.
Ms. Dougherty: Whatever you say. We can't spend it. We can't spend it
without ...
Mr. Odio: Whatever you determine. We cannot spend it without your approval.
Mr. Plummer: Well, you see that's not true. That's not true, I'm sorry to
say that. The Police Department. or any other department in this city can
spend $4499.99 without commission approval.
Ms. Dougherty: No, not from this fund.
Mr. Plummer: Not from this fund? We must approve every penny?
Ms. Dougherty: Yes.
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Mr. Odio: And not even the police.... I would have to do it and I wouldn't do
it.
Mr. Plummer: Good, it's too bad it doesn't filter across the rest of the
system. Thank you.
Mayor Suarez: Call the roll.
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN EMERGENCY ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE NO. 10092
ADOPTED Oft APRIL 10, 1986 ESTABLISHING RESOURCES AND
APPROPRIATIONS FOR THE LAW ENFORCEMENT TRUST FUND
RECEIVED AND DEPOSITED PURSUANT TO ORDINANCE 9257,
ADOPTED APRIL 9, 1981, WHICH CREATED SAID FUND, BY
INCREASING IN THE AMOUNT OF $650,000 AS A RESULT OF
ADDITIONAL MONIES DEPOSITED IN SAID FUND DUE TO
SUCCESSFUL FORFEITURE ACTIONS; CONTAINING A REPEALER
PROVISION AND SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.
Was introduced by Commissioner Dawkins and seconded by Commissioner
Plummer, for adoption as an emergency measure and dispensing with the
requirement of reading same on two separate days, which was agreed to by the
following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
Whereupon the Commission on motion of Commissioner Dawkins and seconded
by Commissioner Plummer, adopted said ordinance by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
SAID ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO. 10252.
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and
announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commission and
to the public.
13. DISCUSSION CONCERNING POSSIBLE REVENUES TO THE CITY RESULTING FROM RICO
ACT.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Manager, I received a call from Mr. Woodnick as you know who
has been very adamant about the situation with the RICO Act. They are holding
a seminar in Ft. Lauderdale and he wanted to ask is it for fact that the City
of Miami Police Department are sending people up to that seminar and that the
funds are provided and I would hope that you would report back to this
commission how many people from our Police Department are going up because the
amount of money involved in what it can return to this city is huge and
tremendous and I think its much....
Mr. Odio: If we have an invitation in writing from them?
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Mr. Plummer: Its an open invitation. I have the invitation in my office.
Mr. Udio: If you'll let me have it, we'll send people.
Mr. Plummer: You got it.
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14. DEFER CONSIDERATION OF COMPLEX AND PROTRACTED INVESTIGATIONS
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Mayor Suarez: Twenty-five. Now we're going to talk about how to spend 24,
the money allocated in the prior item.
Mr. Dawkins: Move it.
Mayor Suarez: Moved.
Ms. Kennedy: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Is this a general approval or is this a specific approval of
the $650,000 expenditure?
Mr. Odio: You have a breakdown. The estimated expenses are $180,000
forfeiture Fund Detail; $200,000 in overtime; $190,000 for equipment and
supplies, and $80,000 for investigative support.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I ask this item be deferred until at least the
afternoon. I don't have that breakdown.
Mr. Odio: It is in the packet.
Mr. Plummer: No sir, here's my packet. Its not in there.
Mr. Dawkins: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded. We're tabling it until the afternoon,
Cesar, so....
Mr. Plummer: At least. What I'm tabling it for is until I get a breakdown.
Did you get one?
Mayor Suarez: Right, and later it may get deferred. We'll have to see but
we're just tabling it as of now.
Mr. Odio: Its in a memorandum in front of you, commissioner. The front page.
On the front page, it is anticipated that monies will be provided in the
following....
Mr. Dawkins: .....it is anticipated that monies will be provided in the
following for the necessary expenses: $200,000 for overtime?
Mr. Odio: Now let me explain why this is important, we did not have these
funds covered in the general point budget and we need to pay for this item.
Mr. Plummer: Well, I've got a problem, okay? I've still got a problem, and
my problem is we will recall very vividly that the million dollars that this
commission set up in budget to address cocaine in particularly was, we found
out, I think Commissioner Dawkins, that a great deal of that went for overtime
in the Bay Heights area, overtime in the Coconut Grove detail, and now we're
being asked for another $200,000 for overtime.
Mr. Odio: This is for this part of the investigation, commissioner. It has
nothing to do with the drug ...
Mr. Plummer: Overtime's overtime. A million dollars is a million dollars.
Now, I need to see where the other monies went to before I go allocating other
monies, which in the past were deceptive to Lhis commission.
Mr. Odio: Fine, I'll have the Police Chier report to you on that.
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Mr. Plummer: Okay, you know I want to know where that million dollars went
that this commission allocated for, what we thought, was to address the
prv&,-Aeins of cocaine and what I, in fact, found out was, or Commissioners
Dawkins found out, that it was being used for overtime.
Mr. Williams: Commissioner, I'm Mr. Williams from the Police Department. The
proposal for the additional overtime would be a funding from the forfeiture
fund. It would not be a funding from the general fund and that would be for
additional protracted investigations that the Police Department would be
commencing. An example of that would be ....
Mr. Dawkins: Sergeant, let me ask you a question.
Mr. Plummer: Sergeant, that has no bearing on it. We gave a million dollars
in which the department, in my estimation, deceptively moved it over to pay
for overtime. Now I'd like to see, and I think my colleagues would, where did
that million dollars of overtime go before we go approving another $200,000?
Mr. Williams: Well, the department can furnish the information where we spent
the money.
Mr. Plummer: Well, I think that before you ask for more money you should _
justify where that other million went. That's all I'm asking.
Mr. Dawkins: Or, if you're really asking me to do something, ask me to take
this $200,000 and put it back where I got my other million from and then only
give you $800,000.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Manager, I ask that this matter be deferred at this time and
I'd like to see a breakdown. We're damn near into six months of the fiscal
year and I'd like to see a breakdown of total overtime for the department of
police.
Mr. Odio: You will have it this afternoon.
Mr. Plummer: Thank you, sir.
Mr. Dawkins: And also let me know what equipment and supplies comes up to
$190,000.
Mr. Odio: Yes, sir.
Mayor Suarez: Call the roll on the motion to defer.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved
its adoption:
MOTION NO. 87-325
A MOTION TO DEFER CONSIDERATION OF A PROPOSED
RESOLUTION ALLOCATING AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $650,000
FROM THE LAW ENFORCEMENT TRUST FUND FOR COMPLEX AND
PROTRACTED INVESTIGATIONS AND TO CONTINUE THE
ACTIVITIES OF THE FORFEITURE FUND DETAIL; FURTHER
REQUESTING THE ADMINISTRATION TO PROVIDE THE
COMMISSION WITH A BREAKDOWN OF THE TOTAL OVERTIME
HOURS WORKED IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AS WELL AS A
DESCRIPTION OF EQUIPMENT AND SUPPLIES REQUESTED BY THE
POLICE DEPARTMENT TOTALLING $190,000.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Dawkins, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote-
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AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
vit-i-Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
15. EMERGENCY ORDINANCE: INCREASE APPROPRIATIONS IN "INTERNAL SERVICE FUND"
Mayor Suarez: Item 26.
Mr. Dawkins: Move it.
Mayor Suarez: Item 26 is moved.
Ms. Kennedy: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Seconded. Any discussion? Read the ordinance.
AT THIS POINT, THE CITY ATTORNEY READ THE ORDINANCE INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD.
Mayor Suarez: Call the roll.
Mr. Dawkins: Discussion.
Mayor Suarez: Commissioner Dawkins.
Mr. Dawkins: Mr. Williams or Mr. Manager. Of this $1,926,000, how much will
buy additional motors for the motor ... our motorcycle policemen?
Mr. Plummer: We've already bought them.
Mr. Ron Williams: None of this, commissioner. This is for heavy equipment.
Mr. Plummer: Commissioner Dawkins.
Mr. Dawkins: Its a police vehicle - equipment.
Mr. Williams: That implies...
Mr. Dawkins: Now what heavy equipment we got in the Police Department?
Wreckers?
Mr. Williams: No, you don't ... The only thing that could really be
categorized as heavy in the Police Department would be their trailers for the
horses, their boats that we maintain in the heavy equipment area and a couple
of larger than one ton pieces of equipment. But essentially, they are a fleet
of light equipment.
Mr. Dawkins: Okay, all right now, I'm reading what you gave me: the purchase
of 72 heavy equipment vehicles, IS motor pool vehicles, and police vehicle
equipment. Now what is police vehicle equipment?
Mr. Williams: The police vehicle equipment, commissioner, includes light
bars, sirens, partition cages, spotlights - that equipment that is necessary
to equip a police unit as is shown to you in item 30.
Mr. Dawkins: So now you're asking me for money in 27 and you're going to ask
back for money in 30 and now you're telling me you're going to buy the same
thing but of both items.
Mr. Williams: No, the item 26 provides the appropriation and the following
items which are companion items, details for you the equipment to be
purchased.
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Mr. Dawkins: No further questions.
: ayv. o..a..:2: ..aii Lase ioii on 16.
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN EMERGENCY ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTIONS 4 AND 6 OF
ORDINANCE NO. 10150 ADOPTED SEPTEMBER 25, 1986, THE
ANNUAL APPROPRIATIONS ORDINANCE FOR THE FISCAL YEAR
ENDING SEPTEMBER 30, 1987, BY INCREASING THE
APPROPRIATIONS IN THE INTERNAL SERVICE FUND IN THE
AMOUNT OF' $1,926,213, INCREASING REVENUES IN A LIKE
AMOUNT FROM THE PROCEEDS OF THE SALE OF CERTIFICATE OF
PARTICIPATION NOTES TO BE APPROPRIATED IN THE HEAVY
EQUIPMENT MAINTENANCE DIVISION, $1,926,213 AND THE
MOTOR POOL MAINTENANCE DIVISION, TO FUND THE PURCHASE
OF 72 HEAVY EQUIPMENT VEHICLES, 18 MOTOR POOL VEHICLES
AND POLICE VEHICLE EQUIPMENT; CONTAINING A REPEALER
PROVISION AND A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.
Was introduced by Commissioner Dawkins and seconded by Commissioner
Kennedy, for adoption as an emergency measure and dispensing with the
requirement of reading same on two separate days, which was agreed to by the
following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
Whereupon the Commission on motion of Commissioner Dawkins and seconded
by Commissioner Kennedy, adopted said ordinance by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
SAID ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO. 10253.
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and
announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commission and
to the public.
16. AUTHORIZE PURCHASE OF THREE ECONOMY CARGO VANS FROM DON REID FORD, INC.
Mayor Suarez: Twenty-seven.
Mr. Dawkins: Move 27.
Mayor Suarez: Moved. Doesn't seem like a high expenditure there. Seconded?
Mr. Plummer: Where are those vans going?
Ron Williams: Those vans will be provided to the mail room and delivery
service.
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Mr. Plummer: Mail room what?
Mr. Williams: enu _ciiv.:.y servicrs.
Mr. Plummer: You need vans?
Mr. Odio: We are going to replace the automobiles we are using with the
little vans, because when they carry heavy loads, that's what they request and
I think its ...
Mr. Dawkins: What three individuals will get these, I mean ...
Mr. Williams: They will not be individually assigned, commissioner, but will
be available for ...
Mr. Dawkins: All right then, well what good is it? Now Harold does all of
the delivering for us and he's almost broken his back and I agree with you
with the vans in that instead of Harold bending over with his back taking
something out of the trunk, he can slide the panel door but if he's not going
to get one of them, then what good is it?
Mr. Williams: Well, commissioner, what we'll have to do is review the needs
and the purposes by which different carriers ...
Mr. Dawkins: All right, let's defer this until you come back and tell me the
needs and purposes and where they are, sir.
Mr. Plummer: Give one up for Harold. And I agree with that.
Mr. Williams: I see no problem is assigning one to that particular function,
commissioner.
Mr. Dawkins: Thank you, sir. No further questions.
Mayor Suarez: With that proviso, we go back and take a vote on it. Pretty
explicit assignment of a vehicle here to Harold. Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Dawkins, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 87-326
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE PURCHASE OF THREE (3)
ECONOMY CARGO VANS FROM DON REID FORD, INC. UNDER AN
EXISTING STATE OF FLORIDA CONTRACT FOR THE DEPARTMENT
OF GENERAL SERVICES ADMINISTRATION AT A TOTAL PROPOSED
COST OF $28,966.41; ALLOCATING FUNDS THEREFOR FROM THE
PROCEEDS FROM THE CERTIFICATES OF PARTICIPATION NOTES
WHICH SHALL LATER BE APPROPRIATED TO THE 1986-87 HEAVY
EQUIPMENT MAINTENANCE DIVISION OF GENERAL SERVICES
ADMINISTRATION DEPARTMENT OPERATING BUDGET;
AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO INSTRUCT THE CHIEF
PROCUREMENT OFFICER TO ISSUE A PURCHASE ORDER FOR THIS
EQUIPMENT SUBJECT TO THE AVAILABILITY OF FUNDS.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Kennedy, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
_ Commissioner -Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
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NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
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DURING ROLL CALL:
Mr. Plummer: I'll vote for Harold.
Mayor Suarez: A vote for Harold is a vote for the City. Item 28. That was a
"Yes".
17. ACCEPT BIDS: SEVEN SUPPLIERS OF HEAVY EQUIPMENT (See label #19 and #24)
Mr. Dawkins: I think I want to move it, but I've got some concerns. I don't
know whether that's on 28 or 29.
Mr. Plummer: 28 and 29 are somewhat the same.
Mr. Dawkins: All right, yes, I'll move it.
Ms. Kennedy: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Item 28 is moved and seconded. Any discussion? Call the roll.
(NOTE: AT THIS POINT, ROLL CALL WAS STARTED, BUT NEVER CONCLUDED.)
Mr. Dawkins: Under discussion, hold it, hold it. Till we move it. These
sweepers... he's buying three sweepers, Mr. Williams?
Mr. Williams: We're replacing three and adding one additional heavy duty.
The total is four.
Mr. Dawkins: So we're going to have four sweepers.
Mr. Williams: Yes.
Mr. Dawkins: And they'll be assigned where?
Mr. Williams: Solid Waste Department.
Mr. Dawkins: All right, where's Mr., but where's Joe?
Ms. Hirai: This is what we're considering now.
Mr. Odio: One in Liberty City, one in Overtown, one in Little Havana ...
Mr. Dawkins: I hear you, Mr. Manager, but you don't assign them ...
Mr. Odio: No, I know but that's ...
Mr. Dawkins: Here he is, Mr. Ingraham. You got four sweepers, right?
Mr. Joe Ingraham: Yes, sir.
Mr. Dawkins: Where will they be assigned and what will be their regular sweep
up detail?
Mr. Ingraham: They're going to be assigned in the Little Havana area, in
Liberty City ...
Mr. Dawkins: Wait now. One in Little Havana ..
Mr. Ingraham: Right.
Mr. Dawkins: One in Liberty City ..
Mr. Ingraham: In downtown Miami, we need an additional one in reference to
the Bayside Project.
Mr. Dawkins: The white folks downtown get two, go ahead. Go ahead, I'm with
you now. What's gonna happen to the fourth one?
Mr. Ingraham: And the third one will go into the Overtown area.
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Mr. Dawkins: All right, what about Wynwood? What are we going to sweep up at
Wynwood?
Mr. Ingraham: With the advent of the four, we can expand the present sweepers
we have to do that, sir.
Mr. Dawkins: Mr. Manager, 15th Avenue in Liberty City does not get swept.
The only place in Wynwood that gets swept is the Design District. Please
bring me your sweeper detail record so that just like J.L. chases the police
calls, I can ride in my car and chase the sweepers and see that they're where
you say they are.
Mr. Ingraham: Yes, sir, I'll have that for you.
Mr. Plummer: Both of us are cleaning the streets.
Mr. Dawkins: No further questioning, Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Suarez: And I'm glad you went through all of that, really because they
have to be deployed in a fair way to all of the business and residential
sectors in the City, particularly the business sectors.
Mr. Odio: In all seriousness, the intention is to sweep the whole city, if we
can.
Mayor Suarez: Wynwood really needs it.
Mr. Odio: And don't forget Coconut Grove too, you know.
Mayor Suarez: Yes, Coconut Grove.
Mr. Plummer: Especially Micanopy.
Mayor Suarez: Did we take a vote on that, Madame City Clerk? Please call the
roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Dawkins, who moved its
adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 87-327
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BIDS OF SEVEN (7) SUPPLIERS
AS IDENTIFIED BELOW FOR FURNISHING APPROXIMATELY 55
ITEMS OF HEAVY EQUIPMENT ON A CONTRACT BASIS FOR ONE
(1) YEAR TO THE DEPARTMENT OF GENERAL SERVICES
ADMINISTRATION AT A TOTAL PROPOSED AMOUNT OF
$1,345,767.01; REJECTING CERTAIN BIDS AND APPROVING
THE CONNECTION WITH A BID SOLICITATION PROTEST;
APPROVING THE PURCHASE OF 17 ITEMS UNDER THE CITY OF
CORAL GABLES SPECIFICATION #32-A IN THE PROPOSED
AMOUNT OF $357,765.00 FOR A TOTAL PROPOSED AMOUNT OF
$1,703.532.01; FUNDS BEING AVAILABLE FROM THE PROCEEDS
OF THE CERTIFICATES OF PARTICIPATION NOTES AND WHICH
PROCEEDS SHALL BE APPROPRIATED TO THE 1986-87 HEAVY
EQUIPMENT MAINTENANCE DIVISION, GENERAL SERVICES
ADMINISTRATION DEPARTMENT OPERATING BUDGET;
AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO INSTRUCT THE CHIEF
PROCUREMENT OFFICER TO ISSUE PURCHASE ORDER FOR THIS
EQUIPMENT, SUBJECT TO THE AVAILABILITY OF FUNDS.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Kennedy, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote-
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AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, d..
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
NOTE FOR THE RECORD: This item was later reconsidered by M-87-327.1 and re-
passed as R-87-330.1
16. DISCUSSION CONCERNING POWER BLOWERS USED ON YARD CLEANING
Mr. Dawkins: Madame City Attorney, sometime ago, I asked you to draft
legislation that would outlaw the heavy blowers that people blow the leaves
_ and trash from their yard to other peoples yards and you didn't bring it back.
May I request that you bring back - have drafted for me legislation that will
outlaw in the City of Miami, the use of those power blowers so that people
like me who have bronchial conditions don't have to worry about the pollen and
other stuff be blowing all around and that J. L. Plummer will have to rake up
his leaves instead of blowing them on other peoples lawns.
Mr. Plummer: Wait a minute, wait a minute. Are you back on my ...
Mr. Dawkins: Your $300 blower.
Mayor Suarez: There are two commissioners that are currently violating that
legislation but I think it's a good idea to propose it and make them illegal.
Mr. Plummer: To make what illegal?
Mayor Suarez: Why you guys are doing.
Mr. Dawkins: Illegal - that blower you bought.
Mr. Plummer: You are going to my blower illegal?
Mr. Dawkins: Yes.
Mr. Plummer: Why would you do such? Wait a minute; hold on. Don't you get
involved in this.
Mayor Suarez: He's just proposing the drafting of legislation at this point.
You're going to have plenty of time to argue the case.
Mr. Plummer: No, no, no, no; stop it now and I don't have to worry about it
later.
Ms. Dougherty: Commissioner Dawkins.
Mr. Dawkins: Yes.
Ms. Dougherty: We did include legislation in that comprehensive garbage or
waste ordinance that says, "you're not permitted to blow onto anybody elses'
yard", do you want ...
Mr. Plummer: Oh, that's all right, I don't blow onto anybody elses' yard.
Ms. Dougherty: But, do you want me to bring back legislation now ...
Mr. Plummer: Don't be so damn cooperative.
Mr. Dawkins: When J.L. blows it, how does he pick it up?
Mr. Plummer: I don't, I put it on the street where it came from.
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Mayor Suarez: How does it get from J.L.'s house to yours across town.
Mr. Plummer: Dawkins goes to my neighbor and blows it all into my yard.
Mayor Suarez: I thought she was your neighbor.
Mr. Plummer: Well, we won't talk about that.
Mr. Dawkins: Since J. L. Plummer doesn't go for that, we'll defer to you.
Mr. Plummer: No, hey, I am in full concurrence that you cannot and shall not
blow it onto your neighbors' property. I agree with that; since I live on a
corner.
Ms. Dougherty: Or into the street. You can't blow it into the street either.
Mr. Dawkins: Okay, we'll work on that later.
19. RECONSIDERATION OF BID ACCEPTANCE OF SEVEN SUPPLIERS OF HEAVY EQUIPMENT
(See labels #17 and #24)
Mayor Suarez: I'm sorry that I passed item 28. You wanted to make a
statement directed to item 28, we may have to move to reconsider, but go ahead
and make the statement.
Mr. Dawkins: Well, let's move to reconsider just in case.
Mayor Suarez: I'll accept a motion to reconsider.
Mr. Dawkins: I'll move to reconsider 28 since we have....
Mr. Plummer: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded, call the roll.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Dawkins, who moved
its adoption:
MOTION NO. 87-327.1
A MOTION RECONSIDERING THE VOTE ON ITEM 28, WHICH HAD
PREVIOUSLY ACCEPTED THE BIDS OF SEVEN SUPPLIERS OF
HEAVY EQUIPMENT ON A CONTRACT BASIS FOR ONE YEAR TO
THE DEPARTMENT OF GENERAL SERVICES ADMINISTRATION.
(NOTE: Item 28 was later passed. See R-87-330.1)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
Mayor Suarez: Proceed, sir. Give us your name and address and if you're paid
to appear here you're supposed to have registered with the City, I presume you
know all of that.
Michael Lynn: You, sir. My name is Mike Lynn. I'm from Culpepper, Virginia,
I represent the Loadmaster Corporation We are a manufacturer of rear -loading
refuse equipment.
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Mr. Plummer: And you have registered as a lobbyist, sir?
Mayor Suarez: Are you compensated for your appearance here tnAav9
Mr. Lynn: No.
Mr. Plummer: Sure, he's representing the company.
Mr. Lynn: I will be compensated - I am a sales manager for the company and
I'm trying to - if you buy what I sell, yeh, I'll be compensated
Mr. Dawkins: He'll b@ compensated if we buy whatever he's selling.
Mayor Suarez: You maybe ought to register ...
Mr. Plummer: But as part of your salary, aren't you appearing here today as
part of your salary?
Mr. Lynn: Yes sir.
Mr. Plummer: Well, then, you have to register.
Ms. Kennedy: You have to register.
Mr. Plummer: It's just that simple.
Mayor Suarez: You fill out a form. We'll take you in a few minutes, there's
no problem. It's to protect you.
20. ACCEPT BID: HONDA NORTH FOR 2 THREE -WHEEL SCOOTERS
Mayor Suarez: Item twenty-nine. This doesn't look like an item that should
have been even on the agenda. Does each one cost $2,796 or both of them?
Mr. Williams: I'm sorry, Mr. Mayor, at a proposed cost for the both of them.
Mayor Suarez: Any particular reason this has to be on our agenda when its
within the city manager's discretion?
Mr. Williams: Well, if you'll note, it's part of the total proposed package
there including ...
Mayor Suarez: Okay, I see.
Ms. Kennedy: Move it.
Mr. Dawkins: This is the follow up with our new way of handling the trash in
that you feel that the pick up trucks would be able to go out and pick up the
trash where we couldn't put it in the cars. Is that why you're replacing the
vehicles?
Mr. Williams: Exactly, commissioner
Mr. Dawkins: No further ...
Mayor Suarez: Motion a second? Any discussion?
Mr. Dawkins: She moved, I seconded.
Mayor Suarez: Great, call the roll.
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The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Kennedy, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 87-328
A RESOLUTION A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BID OF HONDA NORTH
FOR FURNISHING TWO (2) THREE WHEEL SCOOTERS AT A PROPOSED
COST OF $2,796.00 AND REJECTING CITY BIDS FOR THE PURCHASE
OF THIRTEEN (13) COMPACTS PICKUP TRUCKS AND APPROVING THE
PURCHASE FROM DON REID FORD, INC. UNDER A STATE OF FLORIDA
CONTRACT AT A PROPOSED COST OF $108,056.00 FOR THE
DEPARTMENT OF GENERAL SERVICES ADMINISTRATION AT A TOTAL
PROPOSED COST OF $110,852.00; ALLOCATING FUNDS THEREFOR
FROM THE PROCEEDS FROM THE CERTIFICATES OF PARTICIPATION
NOTES WHICH SHALL BE APPROPRIATED TO THE 1986-87 HEAVY
EQUIPMENT MAINTENANCE DIVISION, GENERAL SERVICES
ADMINISTRATION DEPARTMENT OPERATING BUDGET; AUTHORIZING
THE CITY MANAGER TO INSTRUCT THE CHIEF PROCUREMENT OFFICER
TO ISSUE PURCHASE ORDERS FOR THIS EQUIPMENT SUBJECT TO THE
AVAILABILITY OF FUNDS.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here
and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Dawkins, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
21. ACCEPT BID: LAWMEN'S AND SHOOTERS SUPPLY CO. AND PUBLIC SAFETY DEVICES
FOR FURNISHING POLICE AUTO EQUIPMENT
Mayor Suarez: Item thirty.
Mr. Carollo: Item 30, this is a non -minority vendor?
Ron Williams: Yes, sir.
Mr. Carollo: Who were the principals involved with this company?
Mr. Williams: Who are the principals? Do you means the owners, commissioner?
Mr. Carollo: That's what they call them.
Mr. Williams: I don't know the owners of this company.
Mayor Suarez: It's one helluva name that they've got.
Mr. Carollo: Don't you have a list of people when they apply that give you
backgrounds on people and so on?
Mr. Williams: I've got the bid documents here. I can, of course, provide you
with the name of those people who signed the bid document.
Mayor Suarez: Do you have that now or do you want to table the item and bring
It back later on so we can have the names of the principals. They have a
helluva name, Lawmen's and Shooters Supply Co., wow
Mr. Williams: Let me give you that in a couple of minutes, Mr. Mayor. I'll
bring that back and give you the information from the bid document.
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Mr. Dawkins: Do you want him to bring it back this afternoon or at the next
meeting, Joe?
Mr. Carollo: We could bring it back this afternoon. I just want to make sure
that they're not the same people the City did some business with some years
ago and we found out that certain things were quite shocking after we did it.
Mr. Odio: This one is for ...
Mayor Suarez: Mr. City Manager, do you have any idea who they are?
Mr. Odio: I know what he's referring to, commissioner, but ...
Mr. Carollo: Well, I think that company's in Hialeah Gardens and it has a
similar name but ...
Mr. Odio: No, this one is for sirens and the bars that go on the top of the
cars ...
Mr. Carollo: Yeah, but all of these people are in the same business;
uniforms, bars, sirens, you name it.
Mr. Odio: But I don't believe they are the same company you're referring to.
Mr. Carollo: Well, I don't think they are, but I want to be sure
of that before we ...
Mayor Suarez: Also, we want to know who they are. It's not just to make sure
they're not the same company we had problems with before. Make sure we don't
have problems with this one, whoever they are.
Mr. Williams: They are not, Mr. Mayor, I've got the bid document here.
Mayor Suarez: Well, who are they? Now we know who they're not, let's find
out who they are.
Mr. Williams: The sales coordinator who signed the bid document is a
gentleman by the name of Mr. Art Bellingham.
Mr. Carollo: Are they from Broward County?
Mr. Williams: No, they're located in Vero Beach, Florida; which, I think, is
Palm Beach County.
Mr. Carollo: Yes, yes.
Mayor Suarez: Do you need additional information, Mr. Commissioner?
Mr. Williams: Indian River, I'm sorry.
Mr. Carollo: Yes. I doubt it very much that they're the same people.
They're not a minority vendor, right?
Mr. Williams: Right. I don't believe that they are, commissioner.
Mr. Carollo: The other people were, so, all right.
Ms. Kennedy: Mr. Manager ...
Mayor Suarez: Do we have a motion and a second on that matter, City Clerk?
Mr. Carollo: So moved.
Mr. Odio: Yes commissioner.
Ms. Kennedy: Let me just say under discussion that looking at the backup
material this morning, I see a lot of women participation so we must be doing
something right Congratulations.
Mr. Plummer: What item are we on?
Mr. Williams: We're working at it, commissioner.
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Mayor Suarez: Do we have a second reflected?
..:. vuio: We do like women, commissioner.
Ms. Kennedy: Eh,eh,eh, that's wrong, you got the wrong vampire.
Mayor Suarez: Please don't keep saying that in the record.
Mr. Plummer: Boy, I want to tell you. Manager, you're really coming out
great today - the Herald loves you, women love you. I mean, would you like to
try for a third so you can just strike out completely.
Ms. Kennedy: No, women don't love him. He loves women.
Mr. Carollo: You know, that's when you should be worried, Mr. Manager. It's
just before the thunderstorm hits, everything is calm.
Mr. Odio: I was worried about the thunder shooting yesterday. In the boats.
Mayor Suarez: Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Carollo, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 87-329
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BIDS OF LAWMEN'S & SHOOTERS
SUPPLY CO. AT A PROPOSED COST OF $17,761.34 AND PUBLIC
SAFETY DEVICES AT A PROPOSED COST OF $63,349.55 FOR
FURNISHING POLICE AUTO EQUIPMENT CONSISTING OF
PARTITIONS, AND LIGHTBAR-SIREN PACKAGE FOR THE GENERAL
SERVICES ADMINISTRATION DEPARTMENT AT A TOTAL PROPOSED
COST OF $82,862.39; ALLOCATING FUNDS THEREFOR FROM THE
PROCEEDS THE CERTIFICATES OF PARTICIPATION NOTES WHICH
SHALL BE APPROPRIATED TO THE 1986-87 HEAVY EQUIPMENT
MAINTENANCE DIVISION OF GENERAL SERVICES
ADMINISTRATION DEPARTMENT OPERATING BUDGET;
AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO INSTRUCT THE CHIEF
PROCUREMENT OFFICER TO ISSUE PURCHASE ORDERS FOR THIS
EQUIPMENT SUBJECT TO THE AVAILABILITY OF FUNDS.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Kennedy, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
Mr. Plummer: I understand Mr. Carollo was more concerned about the thunder
and the boats than you were.
Mr. Odio: Yeh, but I was next to him. I was standing next to him.
Mr. I was the only one that didn't duck when the gun went off.
Ms. Kennedy: He was in the middle.
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22. SECOND READING ORDINANCE: CHANGE FUNDING SOURCE OF "ORANGIE BOWL
...._ ... - ....QUISITION OF MIAMI BOARD OF REALTOR'S PROPERTY"
Mayor Suarez: Item thirty-one.
Mr. Plummer: I buried a lot of people made that statement, Joe.
Mr. Carollo: I loved the way that they warned us. On the first firing of the
cannon and then they &idn't warn us on the second one. That's great.
Mr. Odio: That's when I jumped.
Mayor Suarez: Item thirty-one.
Ms. Kennedy: Move 31.
Mr. Carollo: The Mayor's speech would have been even better if one of the
pages hadn't gotten blown after the cannon went off. I would like to bring
that observation.
Mayor Suarez: Item 31.
Ms. Kennedy: Move 31.
Mayor Suarez: Moved.
Mr. Plummer: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Seconded. Looks like a cleanup.
Mr. Plummer: Relief fund.
Mayor Suarez: Any discussion? Read the ordinance. Second reading. Call the
roll.
AN ORDINANCE -
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTION 1 OF ORDINANCE NO.
10187, ADOPTED DECEMBER 11, 1986, THE CAPITAL
IMPROVEMENT APPROPRIATIONS ORDINANCE, BY CHANGING THE
FUNDING SOURCE OF THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT
ENTITLED "ORANGE BOWL STADIUM - ACQUISITION OF MIAMI
BOARD OF REALTOR'S PROPERTY", PROJECT NO. 404039, FROM
THE METRO-DADE COUNTY RESORT TAX TO THE CAPITAL
IMPROVEMENT FUND - FUND BALANCE; CONTAINING A REPEALER
PROVISION AND A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.
Passed on its first reading by title at the meeting of March 13, 1987,
was taken up for its second and final reading by title and adoption. On
motion of Commissioner Kennedy, seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the
Ordinance was thereupon given its second and final reading by title and passed
and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
THE ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO. 10254.
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and
announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commission and
to the public.
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DURING ROLL CALL:
�,..��,+..��......- fl,.. - r-- 0-- Onrdon, I vote yes.
23. ENTER INTO TURNKEY CONTRACT WITH MIAMI CENTER ASSOCIATES FOR TOTAL BUY-
OUT OF STORE LEASES AND RENOVATION AT THE MIAMI KNIGHT CONVENTION CENTER
(See label 025)
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Mayor Suarez: Item thirty-two.
Mr. Plummer: I move 32 with the provision that the manager be empowered to do
whatever is necessary to get the floor with stability added to the ordinance.
Mr. Carollo: You recommend this ordinance or this resolution, should I say.
Mr. Odio: The fees, yes. What Commissioner Plummer is referring to you know
we been trying to move, buy out the stores and they come in with a very high
figure and I told them I wouldn't buy that. The owner, the new owner of the
Miami Center Associates, Ramlawi, has offered us a deal wherefore we give em
the $3,000,000 as a turnkey operation and they will buy out and they will
build the facility according to our design and our specs.
Mr. Carollo: Can somehow we make sure that we finally get a contract in that
particular location that we aren't going to get, you know, boom, to the wall?
Mayor Suarez: As in shafted?
Mr. Odio: Well, we cannot ... Once we get this flat space done there, the
contract will improve because we're switching meeting rooms with them ...
Mr. Carollo: Supposedly what they were talking about that it would cost us to
move everybody out if we were going to negotiate it ourselves is $5,000.000,
right?
Mr. Odio: If we went to buy out everybody, they came in with a proposal of a
million -four and we had only allocated $500,000 for that. But if we paid them
one -four, we wouldn't have enough money to build the flat space so I told
Ramlawi, all we have is $3,000,000 and then he came back and said, if you
provide the $3,000,000, we'll provide a finished facility ...
Mr. Carollo: He'll buy out their leases ...
Mr. Odio: He'll take care of the buy-outs ...
Mr. Carollo: And he would do it completely to our specifications ...
Mr. Odio: For $3,000.000.
Mr. Carollo: Now, in that contract, is he going to include any cut-off amount
where he would only spend up to so much or is it going to be open for him to
spend whatever needs to be spent in the buy-out of the leases and in
remodeling to our specifications?
Mr. Odio: We can place ... We can put wording in the contract that we can
release certain amount of funds as they proceed as we approve the drawings,
for instance, we release so much money... we ... but ... the deal is that he
will buy out everybody ...
Mr. Carollo: That I'm not concerned with. You know, that should be done that
way from the start ...
Mr. Odio: That's what we're going to do.
Mr. Carollo: But, my concern is that if we ever get to the point that he
says, no, we were going to do it this way what you're asking for now is going
to require another million dollars from me, I would not do that. I want the
protection.
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Mayor Suarez: What keeps him from coming back, spending the full $3,000.000,
and saying, even though we told him it was only going to be $3,000,000 for
acquisition and improvements. and then coming back and saying, by the way, we
need an0tia1%-. ,,,,.Lion and if you don't give it to us, the improvements are not
going to be completed.
Mr. Odio: Now let me explain this ... eh ... ah ... I know, but we can, we
can put certain guarantees in the contract, but its to his advantage, number
one to finish the facility because without it, the hotel will lose rooms and
he owns the tower. Two, he's going to spend $7,000,000 in the total
renovation of the lobby space, so we were told. They're gonna renovate the
whole hotel now.
Mayor Suarez: Couldn't we require a performance bond that could be ...
Mr. Odio: Could we ... ah ...
Mayor Suarez: renovations be completed within the amount of money in
question?
Mr. Odio: Sure, why not. They have to guarantee that the facility will be
finished for that amount of money. Thats all we have.
Mr. Plummer: And what about the time?
Mr. Odio: He wants to finish it by December.
Mr. Plummer: Okay, the other item is that we are guaranteed that that is our
facility. We will operate it ...
Mr. Odio: Oh is, yes, is our facility.
Mr. Plummer: But, I mean, it will not be operated by F&M, it will not be
operated by anybody but the City where we recoup the money. And nobody gets a
piece of the ah ... ah ...
Mr. Odio: No, let me explain. Miami Center Associates will not be operating
that facility. We, the City, will operate it with FMG.
Mr. Plummer: Why should we do that?
Mr. Odio: They operate the whole facility for us anyway.
Mr. Plummer: No, no ...
Mr. Odio: Yes they do, sir.
Mr. Plummer: I understand they do and under the contract that they have, of
course, that's not in there.
Mr. Odio: Cause the employees that work at that facility are .. are emplo ...
Mr. Plummer: Cesar, you're missing my point. Why should we, where we're
laying ... FMG is a management company.
Mr. Odio: For us ... They work for us.
Mr. Plummer: Okay, for us, of the present facility ...
Mayor Suarez: Why do we want to add another ...
Mr. Plummer: Nov what I'm saying is, if we're laying out 100% of the money to
redo, why should we give a percentage of that money to anybody to manage it?
Mr. Odio: We don't. But we ... but part of the management fee for FMG is to
manage that for us too and the employees are working the Center, by the way,
are not city employees which is an FMG employees. Which is an advantage.
Mayor Suarez: But if we're adding some facility that they were not managing
up to now ...
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Mr. Plummer: Exactly, they didn't have that in their old contract. They
couldn't have, we didn't have the facility.
Ms. Dough-
Mayor Suarez: ... because they were retail facilities, why are you
recommending they we, all of a sudden, give that to them without considering -
you know considering whether we ought to do it - whether we - what
modifications on their contract that should entail.
Mr. Odio: First of all, legally we are bound by the trust indenture that if a
management company has to operate the Center.
Mr. Plummer: That's right. But this is not the Center. This is separate.
Mayor Suarez: This was not in the original package.
Mr. Odio: We're switching meeting rooms that they were managing for us for
flat space. Commissioner, believe me, is an advantage for us that they manage
this part too.
Mayor Suarez: How long is their contract?
Mr. Odio: Contract is up for renovation today - for renewal today.
Mr. Plummer: You just approved their contract. In the consent.
Mr. Odio: For five years.
Tony Pajares: Mr. Mayor, we're exchanging spaces also ...
Mayor Suarez: Oh, okay, cause we're ...
Mr. Pajares: Remember, we're exchanging the meeting rooms for the new space.
So ...
Mr. Carollo: Well, based upon the manager's recommendation and the manager
and the convention director putting their jobs on the line on this ...
Mayor Suarez: And the performance bond ...
Mr. Carolla: No, no, you don't understand. I will make the motion to approve
it.
Ms. Kennedy: Let me second and then include the performance bond and the time
limit.
Mayor Suarez: And the time limitation. We've got this provision for city
contracts about one -tenth of one percent for each day they're late or whatever
it is. You put in there whatever is a fair provision. Make sure they get
that done in time.
Mr. Carollo: That's part of what you negotiated with them, correct - the time
limitation cause we need it and they need it too by a certain time.
Mr. Pajares: Correct. They have indicated December 31st. It's not in
writing yet, but that's what we're talking about.
Ms. Dougherty: We're approving a contract right now for FMG? It's not on the
agenda. I mean this other stuff for $3,000.000 is not on the agenda.
Mayor Suarez: There are some contractual provisions that create an incentive
for them to finish it by that date?
Mr. Pajares: We have not done the contract. That's what we're getting into.
We have not put it down on paper.
Mayor Suarez: Cause the good old penalty ...
Ms. Kennedy: Okay, but can you put on or before December 31st.
Mayor Suarez: Right.
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Mr. Pajares: Yes, ma'am.
Mayor Suarez: Call the roll witn ti,use p.u.isu...
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Carollo, who moved
its adoption:
MOTION NO. 87-330
A MOTION AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO
ENTER INTO A TURNKEY CONTRACT WITH MIAMI CENTER
ASSOCIATES IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $3,000,000 FOR
THE TOTAL BUYOUT OF STORE LEASES AND RENOVATIONS AT
THE MIAMI CONVENTION CENTER WITH THE PROVISO THAT A
PERFORMANCE BOND BE POSTED BY MIAMI CENTER ASSOCIATES,
THAT THE RENOVATION SHALL BE COMPLETED WITHIN THE
SPECIFIC DOLLAR AMOUNT CONTRACTED FOR, AND WITH THE
PROVISO THAT THEY INCLUDE IN THE CONTRACT THE TIME
LIMITATION DATE OF DECEMBER 31ST FOR COMPLETION OF THE
PROJECT.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Kennedy, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
24. REITERATE PASSAGE OF BID ACCEPTANCE OF SEVEN SUPPLIERS OF HEAVY EQUIPMENT
(See labels 017 and #19)
Mayor Suarez: Sir, you're ready on item twenty-eight?
Michael Lynn: I certainly hope so.
Mayor Suarez: Give us your name and address once again.
Mr. Lynn: I'm Mike Lynn ...
Mayor Suarez: Just a little closer to the mike. Thank you.
Mr. Lynn: I'm Mike Lynn. I represent the Loadmaster Corporation. out of
Culpepper, Virginia. We are a manufacturer of rear loading refuse equipment.
I would like to address item 28 on the agenda under two items. The first is
the rejection of the bid submitted and the second is the awarding of the bid
under the Coral Gables add on to their particular bid. I would like to, first
of all, say that based on the specifications that were published by the City
of Miami, my company, before we decided to bid this particular unit, was in
contact with the city and asked which specific units that we manufactured
would be acceptable if we bid and were low bid. We were told that we had to
bid our top -of -the -line, most expensive unit that we produce. However, if we
did that, that this was an acceptable unit and would be acceptable providing
we are low bid. We submitted our bid in good faith ...
Mayor Suarez: You say you were told to submit in terms of your top -of -the -
line, was that put in writing somewhere in the specs?
Mr. Lynn: No air.
Mayor Suarez: Who told you that?
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Mr. Lynn: Sol, over in the Maintenance Department.
Ron Williams: An employee of the Gonpral Cprvirec Arm" 4e*ratinn
Mayor Suarez: When you define something verbally on the phone from here to
Virginia as top -of -the -line, that could create problems with what we really
mean by the specs.
Mr. Lynn: He said specifically, we had to bid our LM425.
Mayor Suarez: Okay, now that's a little bit more objective. I presume that's
a industry code that :cakes some sense to everybody in the industry, right?
Mr. Lynn: In the industry, that is known as our most expensive unit. It
compares with other units, in other words what we're trying to do is compare
Lincolns with Cadillacs and so forth and so on. So the in ...
Mayor Suarez: We're trying to do it with the technical codes that are used in
the industry. If you say, top -of -the -line, then we get into all kinds of
ambiguity.
Mr. Lynn: Sure. But we were specifically told we had to bid our LM425 to be
considered. We submitted the bids and, based upon the original bids received,
okay, were the evaluated low bidder. And it was evaluated that our particular
piece of equipment, if you'll notice on the GSA's tabulation sheet, our
particular piece of equipment is the Loadmaster Model 425 and there was two
exceptions takg; those two exceptions are 4 inches below the truck frame
loading height and 77 inches in width. The specifications called for 5 inches
below the truck frame and 80 inches wide. Okay, so what we're talking here is
inches. Our particular piece of equipment met all of the performance
standards, it met all of the gauge thicknesses in metals and so forth and so
on, and we were told at that time, based upon the original bidders, that we
were the evaluated low and were an acceptable piece of equipment. However,
after that time, the city decided to consider a bid from a manufacturer who
did not bid with the city. And their piece of equipment was considered off a
Coral Gables bid off an entirely different set of specifications. So
comparing our product, that meets your specifications or is designed to comply
with your specifications, to a product that the specifications were written by
another city and had entirely different options, different metal gauge
thicknesses, so forth and so on, is, in our opinion, not exactly fair.
Mayor Suarez: Well, we went to the Coral Gables spec, did we then
readvertise, how did we do that?
Mr. Williams: Mr. Mayor, we are allowed to buy from the various bids of
municipalities as long as we're assured that they have followed the proper
governmental procurement procedures.
Mayor Suarez: But how procedurally did that happen in this case? We decided
not to accept the low bid as initially specified and then we went with the
Coral Gables purchase as part of their purchase?
Mr. Williams: Yes, we did.
Mayor Suarez: Did we advise all of the bidders on that or, I guess they don't
have a second bite at the apple, huh? Or actually, a first bite at the apple,
really.
Mr. Williams: We have the option, or the commission has the option to reject
the bids and award a bid that's properly executed by another municipality, as
we have done with the county, state ...
Mayor Suarez: The idea of that, of course, is to get some kind of a cost
savings. Did we get one in this case?
Mr. Williams: Yes, sir.
Mayor Suarez: Substantial?
Mr. Williams: I think it's approximately $2,000 for the 17 instruments.
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Mr. Lynn: That's $2,000 on a $350,000 basic bid. And may I state that I've
spent more than that in various trips back and forth to the City of Miami.
And, also ...
Mayor Suarez: Let me ask him a question as long as we've got that. You
talking about $2,000 total?
Mr. Williams: Yes, sir.
Mayor Suarez: Is their bid otherwise acceptable? Do we gain any other
advantages from the modifications of using the Coral Gables' bid?
Mr. Williams: Naturally, Mr. Mayor, we gain the advantage of maintaining our
inventories consistent as we are using that type body now.
Mayor Suarez: Well, wait a minute. This is after the fact, now. If you had
thought of that before, that would make some sense, but we first went through
the general specifications, then we went to Coral Gables. Why consistent?
Consistent with what, Coral Gables?
Mr. Williams: Consistent with City of Miami. With what we have.
Okay, and ...
Mayor Suarez: Yeah, but we made these bidders go through the whole process.
They're low bidders and now we throw them out and say we're going to go
through the Coral Gables bidding process and at a savings of $2,000 out of
three hundred some thousand, I have a real problem with that.
Mr. Williams: The issue clearly is, and if I may back up, the Loadmaster
Company was advised they needed to bid a product that was acceptable to our
bid document. We had an experience on last year wherein the commission
awarded bids to Loadmaster and their product was accepted by this commission
and we attempted to put them on the city's chassis, or did put them on the
city's chassis. They were never able to perform and thus we had to take them
off which, of course, made that equipment unavailable to us. They did provide
us with a bid this time on a, according to them, a better piece of equipment,
their 425 model. However, they deviated from the specifications in two
critical areas; those areas are height and width and we thought that those
two items ...
Mayor Suarez: Those are the references he was making to slightly lower and
slightly wider than ...
Mr. Williams: Yes, those, right. So, essentially, Mr. Mayor, we were faced
with a bid wherein the product did not fully meet our specifications. Thus,
the request to reject the bids and buy an acceptable product that was bid by
another municipality.
Mr. Dawkins: Last year when you - last time we purchased from your company
and your product was unacceptable or unusable ...
Mr. Lynn: Yes, sir.
Mr. Dawkins: ... did you, at any time, attempt to work with our GSA to
determine how your product could be adapted so that the next time we bid you
would know that you were selling us a product that we could use?
Mr. Lynn: Very good questions.
Mr. Dawkins: Damn good question. Go ahead and answer.
Mr. Lyn: Yes, sir. At that time, last year we bid a product called an LM1259
okay, which is a somewhat less of a performance unit. That's why we came back
to the City to get a clarification on what we made that was acceptable. The
City told us, we will not accept the product that you bid last time, however,
the LM425 is acceptable to us.
Mr. Dawkins: May I ask my question again, sir.
Mr. Lynn: Yes, air.
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Mr. Dawkins: I'll ask it again. When you bid last year, and we accepted a
product from you and GSA found out that your product could not be used, did
you, or any member of your firm come down and sit A ;*1' r-cA ""A •U4+
is two inches over and it needs to be modified and we will wurk with you to
see that it happens so that next time you need a product, our product can be
acceptable.
Mr. Lynn: Commissioner.
Mr. Dawkins: Did you do that? Did you do that, sir?
Mr. Lynn: Yessir.
Mr. Dawkins: When?
Mr. Lynn: Commissioner, last year we changed ...
Mr. Dawkins: Did you come - see, see ...
Mr. Lynn: Yes, sir, yes, sir.
Mr. Dawkins: No wait a min ...
Mr. Lynn: We came, we came to Miami ...
Mr. Dawkins: All right, hold it now, hold it now, right there. Mr. Williams
or anybody in your shop, did they ever come down and sit down with you and
look at our body and the product you purchased and see what was wrong with it?
Mr. Williams: That body had to be removed from our equipment.
Mr. Dawkins: No, no, no ... You just like him. You hear me but you're not
paying attention. Did they ever come down and take that body with you and sit
it on a truck and measure what was wrong with it so that the next time
whatever we bought from them would fit?
Mr. Williams: No, they did not because
Mr. Lynn: Commissioner, commissioner ...
Mr. Dawkins: All right, that's not, no - good, now hold it, hold it ... keep
the fun in this. Now, go ahead, sir.
Mr. Lynn: Commissioner, we made no less than four different modifications to
the body last year upon the City's request.
Mr. Dawkins: And you either bought my chassis up to your company or bought
your body down here on my chassis.
Mr. Lynn: That's right. And we paid all expenses and now, when it was
finally determined ...
Mr. Dawkins: Is that true, Mr. Williams?
Mr. Williams: Not to my knowledge, commissioner.
Mr. Dawkins: All right, with whom, where did you do it?
Mr. Lynn: At that time, we were dealing with Mr. Cox.
Mr. Dawkins: Beg pardon?
Mr. Lynn: Mr. Eddie Cox, we were dealing with him. And when we finally
finished up, between Mr. ...
Mr. Dawkins: That's why he's no longer here, but go ahead.
Mr. Lynn: Okay, between Mr. Cox and myself, when we finally finished up, and
he ...
Mr. Dawkins: All right, where are the drawings to prove that you were down
here and that you worked on them and what you come up with?
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Mr. Lynn: I didn't bring those with me.
Mr. Dawkins: All right, can you send those to me?
Mr. Lynn: Sure. Yes, I can send you expense vouchers or anything else on how
many times we came down and changed those particular units. We changed them,
I think, about four times. It was finally determined that the width of that
particular machine was 75 inches wide and they had a particular problem with
the loading height. Our engineers could not seem to come up with a container
system that would work with the City's containers. We tried it four different
times, working with Kr. Cox. Me and Mr. Cox decided that probably the best
thing to do was just for us to take the units back. When I took the units
back, Mr. Cox says, you have worked with us and if you come back next year and
bid the 425, it will be acceptable. Then before the bid, before the bid this
year, we came back to the City, recognizing the embarrassing situation that we
went through last year and got the assurances of the City that our unit would
be acceptable or we would not have bid.
Mr. Dawkins: All right. When you worked with Eddie Cox, what was his
official title and job?
Mr. Lynn: He was the director.
Mr. Dawkins: Of what?
Mr. Lynn: Of GSA, I think.
Mr. Dawkins: All right. Now, if he were no longer here, why didn't you sit
down with Mr. Williams, if you thought enough, okay?
Mr. Lynn: We did.
Mr. Dawkins: If you thought enough of Eddie Cox to come down and sit down
with him and find out what he needed, all right, you should have sat down, in
my opinion ...
Mr. Lynn: Okay.
Mr. Dawkins: ...you should have sat down with Ron Williams since Ron Williams
was in charge and Eddie Cox was no longer here. So regardless of what Eddie
Cox agreed to, it no longer held true because Ron Williams was in charge.
Mr. Lynn: Commissioner, I totally agree. That's why we did exactly that.
Mr. Dawkins: Well, he say he never saw you. Somebody's lying.
Mr. Lynn: We came down, sometimes I didn't come down in ...
Mr. Williams: Let's clear that up - please. Let's clear that issue, did ...
Mr. Lynn: Ron's a great guy, he's not lying.
Mr. Williams: No, no.
Mr. Lynn: Now, he may have not seen me in person but he saw either myself or
an official from my company or one of my distributor representatives who are
down here who are the local distributors.
Mr. Dawkins: Okay, go right ahead with your presentation. I'm through, sir.
Mr. Lynn: Okay, okay. Our feeling is, is that we did come down, we did spend
the time and we did, before we submitted the bid, and went through the expense
on our part to submit a bid, we did get the assurances from the City that our
equipment would be acceptable as long as we bid that specific model, the
LM425, which is a much more expensive model than we bid to the City last year.
Mayor Suarez: Did you understand that the commission always has and the City
has the authority and discretion to reject all bids and go to an alternate
bidding procedure, as we did in this case?
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Mr. Lynn: The alternate bidding procedure, if I may be so bold, is usually
used by cities to try to circumvent the expense of going out for bids. In
other words, the city, rather than publish specifications and put all LhL
bidders jumping through the hoops to try to get your business ...
Mayor Suarez: I see what you're saying.
Mr. Lynn: ... you just go up and you tag on to another bid that everybody's
already gone through this. It's an endeavor to save ...
Mayor Suarez: I guess other cities use it to circumvent their established
bidding procedures. We don't, but take note of that. -
Mr. Lynn: Yeah, but ... it does defray expenses for both.
Mayor Suarez: But, I mean, did you know that we had that discretion to do
that when you entered the bidding?
Mr. Lynn: It's in the City Charter. Okay, so yes.
Mr. Odio: Mr. Mayor, there's one basic thing here is that they did not meet
specifications. And if they don't meet specifications ...
Mayor Suarez: I'm satisfied that the city's decision is fine so for myself, I
have no problem.
Mr. Lynn: May I address the specification part?
Mayor Suarez: You did all ready. But, go ahead, one last time.
Mr. Lynn: If I may. Okay?
Mayor Suarez: Yes, please. Make it quick.
Mr. Lynn: I don't want to drag it out, however, the fact remains that the -
we're being thrown out because our units are one inch higher and three inches
too narrow. The fact is the units, the vast majority of the units being
operated by the City of Miami, are three inches narrower than the ones we are
bidding and are totally acceptable. And the fact is also that some of the
units that you're currently operating, those with container systems on them,
the loading height is higher than our loading height will be. So, to throw us
out on two minor things - on two inches on a $300,000 bid when it has been
determined that our equipment is acceptable, and we even got recommendations
from the competition saying that our equipment was equal to theirs - I think,
is a gross injustice.
Mr. Dawkins: Mr. Mayor, I move that we uphold the recommendation of the
Director of GSA.
Mayor Suarez: So moved.
Ms. Kennedy: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Seconded. Any discussion? Call the roll.
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The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Dawkins, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 87-330.1
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BIDS OF SEVEN (7) SUPPLIERS AS
IDENTIFIED BELOW FOR FURNISHING APPROXIMATELY 55 ITEMS OF
HEAVY EQUIPMENT ON A CONTRACT BASIS FOR ONE (1) YEAR TO
THE DEPARTMENT OF GENERAL SERVICES ADMINISTRATION AT A
TOTAL PROPOSED AMOUNT OF $1,345,767.01; REJECTING CERTAIN
BIDS AND APPROVING THE CHIEF PROCUREMENT OFFICER'S
DECISION IN CONNECTION WITH A BID SOLICITATION PROTEST;
APPROVING THE PURCHASE OF 17 ITEMS UNDER THE CITY OF CORAL
GABLES SPECIFICATION #32-A IN THE PROPOSED AMOUNT OF
$357,765.00 FOR A TOTAL PROPOSED AMOUNT OF $1,703,532.01;
FUNDS BEING AVAILABLE FROM THE PROCEEDS OF THE
CERTIFICATES OF PARTICIPATION NOTES AND WHICH PROCEEDS
SHALL BE APPROPRIATED TO THE 1986-87 HEAVY EQUIPMENT
MAINTENANCE DIVISION, GENERAL SERVICES ADMINISTRATION
DEPARTMENT OPERATING BUDGET; AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER
TO INSTRUCT THE CHIEF PROCUREMENT OFFICER TO ISSUE
PURCHASE ORDERS FOR THIS EQUIPMENT, SUBJECT TO THE
AVAILABILITY OF FUNDS.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here
and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Kennedy, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Mr. Lynn: Thank you very much.
Mr. Dawkins: Thank you, sir.
25. SECOND READING ORDINANCE: CHANGE RATE SCHEDULE OF MIAMI KNIGHT
CONVENTION CENTER (See label #23)
Mayor Suarez: Item thirty-three, I guess we're up to.
Ms. Dougherty: Item thirty-two.
Mayor Suarez: Thirty-two?
Ms. Kennedy: No, we did thirty-two.
Ms. Dougherty: No, you approved the three million dollar ...
Mayor Suarez: Oh, we never voted on it. On 32 ...
Ms. Dougherty: I have to read the ordinance too.
Mayor Suarez: Thank you, that's right.
AT THIS POINT, THE CITY ATTORNEY READ THE ORDINANCE INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD.
Ms. Kennedy: Move 32.
Mayor Suarez: Call the roll.
Mr. Dawkins: With amendments made by ...
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Ms. Hirai: Move and a second, Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Suarez: Thank you, yeah. I forgot that we didn't have a motion and a
second. Okay, we have a motion and a second? With the amendments? Call the
roll.
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTION 53-161 OF THE CODE OF
THE CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA, AS AMENDED, BY CHANGING
THE RATE SCHEDULE FOR THE USE AND OCCUPANCY OF AND THE
SERVICES FURNISHED OR TO BE FURNISHED OR IN CONNECTION
WITH THE MIAMI CONVENTION CENTER; CONTAINING A
REPEALER PROVISION, SEVERABILITY CLAUSE AND PROVIDING
FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
Passed on its first reading by title at the meeting of March 13, 1987, was
taken up for its second and final reading by title and adoption. On motion of
Commissioner Kennedy, seconded by Commissioner Dawkins, the Ordinance was
thereupon given its second and final reading by title and passed and adopted
by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
THE ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO. 10255
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and
announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commission and
to the public.
26-A.DOCUMENTARY SURTAX FUNDING TO ASSIST IN FINANCING AFFORDABLE HOUSING AT
MELROSE NURSERY AND CIVIC CENTER SITES;
26-B.SECOND READING ORDINANCE: ESTABLISH NEW FUND - "SCATTERED SITE
AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM" AND APPROPRIATING FUNDS FOR
SAME
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Mayor Suarez: Item thirty-three. Reflect my yes vote on that, Madame City
Clerk.
Mr. Plummer: I move 33 as I did before.
Ms. Kennedy: I second, as I did before.
Mr. Plummer: With a strict admiration to the department that no sites are to
be purchased without this City's approval in advance ...
Mr. Odio: Yes, air.
Mr. Plummer: In advance, not after the fact.
Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded.
Mr. Dawkins: Under discussion. Mr. Mayor, Mr. Manager, we have talked in
terms, I mean I've been here about a third of the time that J.L. has been here
Mr. Plummer: I don't know how to read that.
Ms. Kennedy: No, he's been here longer than all of us combined.
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Mr. Dawkins: Put together, right?
Ms. Kennedy: Yes.
Mr. Dawkins: Now, we're not bragging on you, I mean, we in sympathy for
having to serve with you. But we're not bragging - we're not thanking you for
being here, okay?
Mr. Plummer: Drop dead.
Mr. Dawkins: Ever since I have been here, we constantly talk in terms of
affordable housing and we have yet to produce one single unit of affordable
housing in the six years I've been here. Now, every time I go out and
campaign, I tell people, one of my top priorities is affordable housing. Now,
I am not going to be able to tell that line next time I get to go out to be
elected, OK? So now, Mr. Mayor, we have a union in the wings who is ready to
put up their pension funds. We have a bank who is ready to finance the
Melrose site with affordable housing. Now, if this Commission is committed,
it is time that we find some way to get off of square one and break ground in
the next 30 or sixty days, so that in November, we've got something going that
people will know in eight or nine months that something that is going to be
done in affordable housing, OK? We do Bayside, we do everything there is to
be done, until it comes to providing affordable housing. Now, what can we do
to assure, I mean, I am with J.L., I mean, scattered sites is wonderful, OK?
... but that is a house at a time. And with the housing needs that we have,
and the Mayor campaigned along with me and Rosario... J.L., the last time,
Joe... we all say affordable housing. Now, what can we do to get Melrose and
the Civic Center off of square one, and get ground breaking so that we can
look forward to some housing in the next 12 to 18 months.
Mr. Jerry Gereaux: On the item at hand, Commissioner, I just want to point
that in May we are going to be coming to you with recommendations for
acquisition of properties related to this item for your approval to acquire...
Mayor Suarez: I know a lot of them are in Wynwood.
Mr. Gereaux: Yes, a lot of them are in Wynwood.
Mayor Suarez: Because we have got a whole schedule that we requested from
you, and there is like, eight sites in Wynwood, which should be extremely
helpful.
Mr. Gereaux: Yes, there are, yes, there are.
Mayor Suarez: I am not sure that scattered site housing is what makes the
most sense, in view of how many units we would like to build, but, are we
constrained by the Federal....I don't mean to.....
Mr. Gereaux: Well, no, we are not. This is just one of a number of new
housing development programs that we are going to be asking you to move
forward with over the course of the next couple of months. For example, in
May, we are coming to you with a recommendation to build the first pilot
project of this program on a site the City already owns in the Manor Park
neighborhood, the former Carver Wise site, which is going to be funded with a
number of very unique financing tools, one of which is Mr. Martin Fine's
stock, penny/zero percent financing. But, getting on beyond the scattered
site program, which is important, as a measure, not only build housing, but
Increase the marketability and the economic viability of our neighborhoods. I
believe the Commissioner Dawkins is talking about the big effort and that big
effort involves development of affordable sales housing on the Melrose site,
and also the Civic Center site.
Mayor Suarez: Which we approved quite a few of and...
Mr. Gereaux: Yes. Now, that item is up...
Mayor Suarez: ... we don't see.
Mr. Dawkins: That was a long time ago, Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Suarez: Yes, and we don't see the units going up just yet, Jerry, that
is the...
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Mr. Gereaux: Yes, OK, I wish we could get them up there soon. We... item...
.,L. L.,wxins: 1 will tell you what. If we don't hurry and get them up, we may
have another housing director, sir.
Mr. Gereaux: Yes. Item 87 is coming up and I've asked the sponsors that
were here before you in January to come and make status reports and discuss
what problems, if any, they have, but we can discuss that now, if that is what
the Commission would like to do.
Mayor Suarez: Get them built!
Mr. Gereaux: OK, what I would like to move on at this point, is securing
approval of the Dade County Advisory Council, Surtax Advisory Council, and the
Dade County Commission, to make the Melrose project and the Civic Center
project, projects for top priority consideration. The Surtax program was
passed several years ago, was passed specifically... specifically to provide
low income housing financing opportunities for the inner-city, not only for
the housing aspect, but also for economic development. The two sponsors of
the projects, the Plumber's P.L.U. and B.E.R.S. and CODEC are working with the
Surtax staff at this time. They have been advised by the Surtax staff that
they will not be funding available for the end financing until after October
lat. I would like to go with each of those sponsors to the Surtax Board, make
a presentation, not only on behalf of the sponsors, because this is a joint
venture, but also on behalf of the City Commission, asking both the Surtax
Board and the Dade County Board of Commissioners to give this special
consideration.
Mayor Suarez: Do you need a resolution?
Mr. Gereaux: I would like a resolution.
Mayor Suarez: I'll so move.
Mrs. Kennedy: Second.
Mr. Dawkins: Read that. I have something, go ahead. Read the resolution.
Mr. Plummer: Motion made and seconded for the resolution. Is there any
further discussion? Hearing none, call the roll.
Mayor Suarez: Do we need to read the resolution?
Mr. Plummer: Oh I didn't know you had a resolution.
Mr. Dawkins: Yes, he has got a resolution. Read it.
Mayor Suarez: I just got it, it came...
Mr. Dawkins: Read it.
Mayor Suarez: On my right, here.
Mr. Dawkins: Read it!
Mayor Suarez: In part... do we need to read the entire thing, Madam City
Attorney?
Mrs. Dougherty: Are you talking about the ordinance, or the resolution?
Mayor Suarez: The resolution.
Mr. Plummer: The resolution.
Mrs. Dougherty:
No, you don't have
to read the resolution.
Mayor Suarez:
Well, let me...
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Mr. Dawkins:
All right, under
further discussion, since
I am going to
Tallahassee to
lobby against no more jails being built Within
the City of '
Miami with the
blessings of these
Commissioners, why can't I
get permission
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from this Commission to sit down with the Florida delegation and have the
Florida delegation tell the Surtax people that this is one of their
priorities? Because the surtax money... the thing that we are trying to do is
'.o dc, Statewide and we have been almost 18 to
24 months, attempting to develop the model that could be used, so I would like
when I go up there, to lobby the Legislature and where is Mike Friedman?
Mayor Suarez: Yes, Mike Abrams is around here. He leads the Dade County
Delegation, he ought to get this message directly.
Mr. Dawkins: Hey, Mike, is Mike here? Mike Abrams?
Mayor Suarez: The resolution, before the additional proposal by Commissioner
Dawkins, to have us endorse his efforts with the Legislature reads... just the
final clause reads:
"The City Manager is hereby directed to request a personal
appearance before Metropolitan Dade County Doc Stamp Advisory
Council for the purpose of securing a forward commitment of surtax
funding so to assist in the financing of the housing housing
projects planned for development on the publicly owned Melrose
Nursery and Civic Center sites."
That is exactly what you had moved and why don't we add the instruction to
Commissioner Dawkins to proceed with the Dade County Delegation to get their
endorsement.
Mr. Plummer: Did you make that a part of your motion?
Mayor Suarez: Yes.
Mr. Plummer: Any discussion further? Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Mayor Suarez, who moved its
adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 87-331
A RESOLUTION DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO MAKE A PERSONAL
APPEARANCE BEFORE THE METROPOLITAN DADE COUNTY DOCUMENTARY
SURTAX ADVISORY COUNCIL FOR THE PURPOSE OF SECURING A
FORWARD COMMITMENT OF DOCUMENTARY SURTAX FUNDING TO ASSIST
IN FINANCING THE DEVELOPMENT OF HOUSING AFFORDABLE TO
FAMILIES AND INDIVIDUALS OF LOW AND MODERATE INCOME ON THE
PUBLICLY OWNED MELROSE NURSERY AND CIVIC CENTER SITES.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here
and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Dawkins, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Mr. Gereaux: Mr. Mayor and Commissioners, would you like to continue this
again later? I've asked the two sponsors to be present in case you had any
questions, I could call them and tell them that the action has already been
taken.
Mr. Plummer: Well, we would like to see him here this afternoon.
Mr. Gereaux: OK.
Mr. Plummer: Definitely.
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Mr. Dawkins: Mr. Mayor and fellow Commissioners, we have the chairman of the
Dade Delegation. Mike, we have two projects that we have been trying to get
off the board as demonstration Proiects for affordable housing.
Mr. Mike Abrams: For what?
Mr. Dawkins: Affordable housing and the surtax money has been all used by big
developers, as you know, so I am going to meet with the Dade Delegation in
order to get some... see if I can get surtax money earmarked for these two
specific projects, so that when it comes to Dade County, we know what it is
earmarked for, so I will need your help in sitting up...
Mayor Suarez: We are talking about almost 1,000 units altogether, the City is
trying to put together, and we are heavily subsidized them, in some cases from
private funding, in other cases, from our own financing strategies and if we
just get the surtax and they really become affordable, Mike, and we find that
the Surtax Board, apparently, is not being particularly responsive to our
request.
Mr. Abrams: OK, I think this probably a fresh issue in terms of interaction
with the Delegation, but we meet every Monday up in Tallahassee. We have a
lunch, and if anytime you want to get on the agenda, or have people from the
City on the agenda to discuss this issue, we could do it as soon as Monday,
this coming Monday, Commissioner Dawkins.
Mayor Suarez: The Commissioner has been designated to represent this
Commission, so...
Mr. Abrams: You just let me know when, and we will have them there.
Mr. Dawkins: Well, the Miami Herald has already sent me to Taiwan, so I will
be coming back from Taiwan on the 26th, and after that I will get with you.
Mr. Abrams: All right, well, if you like Taiwan, you will love Tallahassee!
Mr. Dawkins: OK, Mike, I will call you and set it up the following...
Mayor Suarez: I would say, if you like Tallahassee, you will love Taiwan!
Mr. Plummer: The only thing that Miller doesn't know is the ticket to Taiwan
is one way.
Mayor Suarez: OK, we need a vote on the scattered site housing project.
Mr. Dawkins: We need... yes, on 33. We need a vote on 33.
Mrs. Dougherty: We need a motion and a second on item 33, which is an
ordinance.
Mayor Suarez: OK, we need a motion and a second.
Mr. Plummer: Move it.
Mr. Dawkins: Second.
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTION 1 OF ORDINANCE NO.
10187, ADOPTED DECEMBER 11, 1986, THE CAPITAL
IMPROVEMENT APPROPRIATIONS ORDINANCE; BY ESTABLISHING
A NEW CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT ENTITLED: "SCATTERED
SITE AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM" PROJECT
NO. 321034, AND BY APPROPRIATING FUNDS IN THE AMOUNT
OF THREE MILLION NINE HUNDRED NINETY SEVEN THOUSAND
EIGHT HUNDRED DOLLARS ($3,997,800) FROM SPECIAL
OBLIGATION BONDS, SERIES 1986A, FOR THE PURPOSE OF
PROVIDING FINANCING FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF OWNER -
OCCUPIED RESIDENTIAL HOUSING UNITS AFFORDABLE TO
FAMILIES AND INDIVIDUALS OF LOW AND MODERATE INCOME;
CONTAINING A REPEALER PROVISION AND A SEVERABILITY
CLAUSE.
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Passed on its first reading by title at the meeting of March 13, 1987, was
taken up for its second and final reading by title and adoption. On motion of
Commissioner Plummer, seconded by Commissioner Dawkins, the Ordinance was
thereupon given its aacu,&u a,:u &.i.:e. &dau.L&+is;+tiC and passed and adopted
by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
THE ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO. 10256.
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and
announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commission and
to the public.
27. SECOND READING ORDINANCE: INCREASE APPROPRIATION FOR "SOUTHEAST
OVERTOWN/PARK WEST REDEVELOPMENT - PHASE I"
Mr. Plummer: Move item 34.
Mr. Dawkins: Second, and under discussion...
Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded.
Mr. Dawkins: Under item for parks and recreation, what parks will money be
spent on, and how much?
Mr. Odio: We are talking about Overtown/Park West. This is 34, Commissioner?
Mr. Dawkins: Yes, 34, Mr. Manager.
Mayor Suarez: There is a reference there, to parks.
Mr. Odio: What we are doing here, these are funds that came from different...
at one time or another, they were allocated for the S.E. Overtown/Park West
project, and what we are doing here only, is consolidating to improve
accountability of all those funds, so we have them in only one account, and
not spread out throughout the City. That was done a long time ago,
Commissioner.
Mr. Dawkins: Is this the fund you are putting the $12,000,000 in that we are
going to put $6,000,000 in the park downtown and the $6,000,000 in the other?
Mr. Odio: No, no, this has nothing to do with that.
Mr. Dawkins: Thank you, no further questioning.
Mayor Suarez: Do we have a motion and a second, Madam City Clerk?
Mr. Plummer: Yes.
Mayor Suarez: Read the ordinance.
THEREUPON, THE CITY ATTORNEY READ THE ORDINANCE INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD, BY
TITLE ONLY.
(NOTE: AT THIS POINT, THE CITY CLERK STARTED ROLL CALL)
Mr. Dawkins: Just a minute.
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Mayor Suarez: John Gilchrist, before you leave, I want to ask you a question
right after this vote.
Mr. Dawkins: This is money that was already spent, you said, Mr. Manager?
Mr. Odio: No, it was allocated a long time ago, Commissioner, to the S.E.
Overtown/Park West project and they are scattered throughout the different
account numbers and what we are doing is putting them in one account, so we
can account for it better.
Mr. Dawkins: So, there are a million one nine for Moore Park and a million
three six seven for Jose Marti Park will go into a fund, but then what?
Mr. Odio: Wait, I...
Mr. Dawkins: On page 9 of my backup.
Mr. John Gilchrist: They just put the whole...
Mr. Odio: They put the whole allocation, this has nothing to do...
Mr. Gilchrist: This has nothing to do...
Mr. Odio: ... with what we are doing here. Those bonds were expended already.
Mr. Gilchrist: That is the whole document.
Mr. Dawkins: I've alerted you that we can discuss it, OK?
Mr. Odio: They were expended already.
Mr. Dawkins: All right, we will discuss this, all right? OK, no further
questions.
(NOTE: THEREUPON, ROLL CALL WAS COMPLETED)
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTION 1 OF ORDINANCE NO.
10187, ADOPTED DECEMBER 11, 1986, THE CAPITAL
IMPROVEMENT APPROPRIATIONS ORDINANCE, BY INCREASING
THE APPROPRIATION FOR THE PROJECT ENTITLED "SOUTHEAST
OVERTOWN/PARK WEST REDEVELOPMENT -PHASE I" PROJECT NO.
322029 BY $4,641,100 FROM THE FOLLOWING REVENUE
SOURCES: THE GENERAL FUND -LOAN, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT
BLOCK GRANT FUNDS, DEVELOPERS DEPOSIT, RENT DEPOSIT,
MISCELLANEOUS REVENUE, AND URBAN MASS TRANSPORTATION
ADMINISTRATION LOCAL MATCH (CD) FUNDS; CONTAINING A
REPEALER PROVISION AND A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.
Passed on its first reading by title at the meeting of March 13, 1987, was
taken up for its second and final reading by title and adoption. On motion of
Commissioner Plummer, seconded by Commissioner Dawkins, the Ordinance was
thereupon given its second and final reading by title and passed and adopted
by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
THE ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO. 10257.
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and
announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commission and
to the public.
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28. DISCUSSION CONCERNING THE SUCCESS OF BAYSIDE SPECIALTY CENTER AND THOSE
WHO SHOULD BE PRAISED FOR THEIR EFFORTb.
Mayor Suarez: John.
Mr. Dawkins: By the way, Mr. Manager, I am glad to see you putting my clay
court in for Moore Park.
Mr. Odic: Yes, air, you told us to put it there, and before Gilchrist leaves,
Commissioner Dawkins, Mr. Mayor, yesterday, we had the opening of Bayside,
and...
Mrs. Kennedy: No kidding?
Mr. Plummer: Is that what we were there for?
Mr. Odio: I don't know what I was there doing there, but the fact is that
John Gilchrist did not get any credit for what happened there yesterday and
that man has been working for three years, day and night...
Mayor Suarez: I know by about 5:30 p.m. yesterday, he looked like hell, he
looked worse than Jim Dausch, and that is saying a lot.
Mr. Odio: He always looked bad anyway!
Mayor Suarez: He was going around trying to put out fires and...
Mr. Odio: No, seriously...
Mr. Dawkins: And since you said that, are we going to put a plate on that, as
we do on all other projects?
Mr. Odio: Yes, sir!
Mr. Dawkins: Two plates should go there.
Mr. Odio: Two of them?
Mr. Dawkins: That's right. The first plate should be for the Administration
that started it, and I want to make damn sure that the plate says Howard Gary
was City Manager, and the second plate should be for the present
Administration, who was here when it was finished, and that manager should be
Cesar Odic.
Mr. Odio: OK, I...
Mayor Suarez: Until the time of the obtaining of the plate in which case
we'll decide if he is still there.
Mr. Dawkins: OK. Nov, did we change that plate out here on this other place?
Mr. Odio: I ordered the plate changed at Curtis Park, as you told me.
Mr. Dawkins: OK, you ordered it changed. Nov, when is it changed?
Mr. Odic: Well, it takes time to order the...
Mayor Suarez: When we get the sign up here that says City Hall, which has
been about five years.
Mr. Odic: No, no, he is talking about the meal center...
Mr. Plummer: R.A., and knock that off. You're getting a freebie.
Mr. Odic: He is talking about the meal center in Curtis Park.
Mr. Dawkins: Yes, I am talking about the meal center, yes.
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Mayor Suarez: Changing the plates should be a little easier than a sign, huh?
Mr. Odio: Yes, sir.
Mr. Dawkins: OK. All right.
Mr. Plummer: Go over on S.W. 8th Street, the guy that makes the tomb stones.
Mr. Odio: Commissioner, what we might be able to do is...
Mrs. Kennedy: There you go, one track mind!
Mr. Dawkins: You see, J.L. is familiar with anything that has to do with
funerals, you understand, that is his business.
Mrs. Kennedy: Yes, he has a one track mind.
Mayor Suarez: One quick...
Mr. Plummer: Yes, but I get my tombstones a lot quicker than he gets his
plates and it is the same company.
Mayor Suarez: One quick question, John, how are we doing on the final
negotiations and the closing of the purchase of the land and the park from the
board, so that we can begin to divvy up what should be about $3,000,000 for
neighborhood parks in addition to $3,000,000 for the Bayfront.
Mr. Gilchrist: I know, they are still waiting for...
Mayor Suarez: Did they get their appraisal?
Mr. Gilchrist: They do not have their appraisals in hand, yet, sir. They
cannot start construction there...
Mayor Suarez: OK, call them a couple of times this week. They are very
responsible there, but they don't seem to get it done.
Mr. Gilchrist: I told them at the opening yesterday. He was big...
Mr. Dawkins: Well, be prepared, I have that on the agenda.
29. DISCUSSION AND TEMPORARY DEFERRAL OF PROPOSED FIRST READING ORDINANCE TO
INCREASE FEES CHARGED BY CITY DAY CARE FACILITIES (See label #41)
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Mayor Suarez: Item 35.
Mrs. Kennedy: 351
Mr. Odio: Day care centers new fee schedule.
Mrs. Kennedy: Could we call, Walter, Carman Evans?
Mr. Odio: She is here.
Mrs. Kennedy: Oh, there she is.
Mr. Odio: Actually, let me see if I can explain something, Commissioner, this
ordinance will provide increases in one child weekly and daily rates, late
payment, drop in child care, etc. ...late pick up after school care, and
summer program. But, there will be decreases for infant care and additional
children in the weekly service program. The registration fee will be changed
from $30 biannual, to $50 annual, with a $5 increase applied for additional
children. Do you want to explain that?
Mr. Plummer: Does this make this program self-liquidating?
Ms. Carmen Evans: No, it doesn't.
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Mr. Odic: It will increase revenues by $31,900, but it is still not self-
liquidating.
Mr. Plummer: Well, it was supposed to be, that this was the year we were
going to go to a self-liquidating schedule.
Mr. Odic: It means, Commissioner, that we have to increase the fees too much
and some of these mothers cannot afford.
Mr. Plummer: Yes, but wait a minute, wait a minute, Cesar now, whoa. This
program was never developed for the indigent kind of a program or for the
poor.
Mr. Odic: Working mothers, though.
Mr. Plummer: This was, but it as not... yes, working mother, yes. But, you
have rich working mothers and you have poor and you have middle income, OK?
Now, this program was specifically designed for the moderate income mother.
That is the way it was designed. I don't know what the figures are today.
Mr. Odic: Well, today it stands at $220,000 a year for day care centers -
$220,000 a year.
Mr. Plummer: Of subsidy?
Mr. Odic: Yes.
Mr. Plummer: Does that include the Federal grant of lunch?
Mr. Odic: It includes everything. No, the lunch program has nothing to do
with it.
Mr. Al Howard: That is just the City's portion. What we have done this year,
though, we have reduced the actual cost per child from $1,600 down to $1,100,
the City's portion. We are getting over $300,000 in grants and revenues. It
costs us about $350,000, so we reduced the cost of the City, quite
substantially.
Mr. Odic: Commissioner, I would...
Mr. Plummer: Let me ask this question. Right now, Mr. Manager, what is the
total cost of the program?... total cost.
Mr. Odic: Total, I...
Ms. Evans: $615,508.
Mr. Plummer: OK, and how many children are you serving?
Ms. Evans: One hundred eighty in day care.
Mr. Plummer: Somebody got a calculator?
Mr. Dawkins: Mano.
Mr. Plummer: Somebody got a calculator?
Mr. Odios It comes out to $1,100. It doesn't come out to $1,100.
Mr. Plummer: Divide a hundred and how many kids?
Ms. Evans: One hundred eighty.
Mr. Plummer: One eight 0?
Mr. Odic: It comes out to about $4,000.
Mayor Suarez: No.
Mr. Plummer: Now, let me tell you something.
Mr. Odio: No.
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Ms. Evans: No, we didn't calculate the cost per child. It is just on...
Mr. Plummer: Well, you have got a cost, it is so much per child!
Ms. Evans: Just based on the total, because we subtracted the amount that we
received from grants.
Mr. Plummer: Divide 180 into $615,000.
Mayor Suarez: We want a simple calculation here. Somebody have a calculator
handy?
Mr. Dawkins: John Blaisdell has one over there.
Mayor Suarez: Yes, whoever. Six hundred some thousand dollars.
Mr. Plummer: Divide it by 180.
Mayor Suarez: One hundred eighty, about $3,000?
Ms. Evans: It comes to about $3,400.
Mr. Plummer: How much?
(INAUDIBLE BACKGROUND COMMENTS)
Mr. Plummer: All right, thirty six eleven. In other words, that is what each
- child represents, his portion or share. Is that correct?
Ms. Evans: The total.
Mr. Plummer: Now, let me tell you something. I send my child to Bayshore,
down on Bayshore Drive, the same kind of service, the food, and everything...
$150 a month.
Mayor Suarez: That is $3,000 a year.
Mr. Plummer: Now, you know, I am trying, as some people have misconstrued in
the past, to eliminate the program, but what I am saying is, if we take this
same amount of money and contract it out to a private company, we could double
the amount of kids! This is ludicrous to spend $3,600 on a child for a day
care program when the private sector is doing it for $150 a month. It just
makes no sense to me!
Mayor Suarez: We have got a figure here that... $455,096 to spend in
salaries.
Mr. Plummer: It just makes no sense!... absolutely no sense! You could
double the number of kids if you went to the private sector and did it. Now,
tell me where I am wrong.
Ms. Evans: Well, first of all, the private sector does charge considerably
more than we do. The quote that you make for Bayshore is incorrect. It is
$250 a month, plus $40 a month additional for food.
Mr. Plummer: Well, my kids have not been there. Cesar has kids there now.
Cesar, you are paying $150 a month?
Ms. Evans: Me too, I have one there, and in the second place, I think that
you have to keep in mind that we receive grants from other sources and we...
Mr. Plummer: Has no bearing on it. Grants...
Ms. Evans: ... were taking that, we were taking the grant source amounts away
from the $615,000. When you do that, the figure is less and the average...
Mr. Plummer: No, no, you can't. You cannot take those away from grants!
Ms. Evans:... but the average cost on a nationwide basis for day care is
anywhere from $3,200 to $3,500 per child per year.
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Mayor Suarez: Well, that is why the whole nation is going to privatization.
Mr. Plummer: Exactlyl
Ms. Evans: Private operators cannot provide the same types of services that
we give.
Mayor Suarez: That's what we want to know. That's what we want to know, why,
what is the difference?
Ms. Evans: For one thing, our problem is that our day care centers are located
in low income areas, three of the four.
Mayor Suarez: Do we provide more services than another... OK, tell us.
Ms. Evans: Yes, we do, and we have. OK, number one, we are located in these
low income areas. You aren't going to find a private operator that is going
to be able to go in there and provide the services, because they are going to
be looking at the bottom line for profits.
Mayor Suarez: Oh, I bet you we could, I bet you we could, if we offered...
all right, that is not the service, that's...
Ms. Evans: Well, the County tried it.
Mr. Odio: For the record, about six years ago, I offered the program to the
Catholic services and Monsignor Walsh turned me down flat.
Mr. Plummer: Well, that is fine for Monsignor Walsh, because he has his own,
OK?
Ms. Evans: But, that is about the only person that we could...
Mr. Plummer: Now, all I am saying is, that I think that we need to go through
this. My secretary just handed me a note. She has her child in day care
centers and she is paying $50 a week, including food, OK?
Mayor Suarez: How many hours is it? How many hours?
Mr. Plummer: Well, it doesn't say. She just handed me this note. Look, I am
not in any way trying to devastate a program. Please understand me, but we
can take and we can get these kids in a program in a private source for
$1,800, which I think can very easily be done, then what you are talking about
is, instead of doing 180 kids, you can do 350 kids, that is all I am trying to
bring out. I think that we have just gone completely overboard in whatever we
are doing, to in fact, justify a figure of $3,611 per child. It is just...
Mrs. Kennedy: Commissioner, let me just say that this...
Mr. Plummer: Sure.
Mrs. Kennedy: ... I have to say is one of the finest programs that the City
has. The reasonable rates we are charging here make the difference between a
mother being able to work and leave her children there and being on public
assistance. Most of these families are head of households headed by woman,
mostly Hispanics and Blacks, and you know, they have no other financial aid.
Mr. Plummer: That has no bearing on it.
Mrs. Kennedy: No, let...
Mr. Plummer: See, Rosario, I have no problem with first class child day care,
but what I am saying to you, and I continue to say, is if the private sector
Is providing it for half the cost, I am not interested in reducing it by one
penny, our grant. But, if we can go to a private and get twice as many kids
involved...
Mr. Odio: I'll tell you what, Commissioner. If you order me, I will...
Mr. Plummer: ... I think it Is well worth our looking into.
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Mr. Odio: We have done it twice. I will do it for a third time, we will go
out on an R.F.P., and see what private sector people would like to take this
over, and at what cost.
Mrs. Kennedy: Carmen, how much of a waiting list do you have?
Ms. Evans: Pardon me?
Mrs. Kennedy: What kind of waiting list do you have?
Ms. Evans: Oh, well, we have, I would say, about 150 people on the waiting
list, probably more than that.
Mr. Plummer: And you are assuring this Commission...
Ms. Evans: And we are at full capacity.
Mr. Plummer: You are assuring this Commission that all of those kids are City
residents?
Ms. Evans: Well...
Mr. Plummer: No, that is the stipulation we put in last year.
Ms. Evans: According to the addresses, they are, that they give us.
Mr. Plummer: Well, I am assuming you investigate.
Ms. Evans: Yes, we do.
Mr. Plummer: You investigate the income of the parents.
Ms. Evans: Yes, we do.
Mr. Plummer: And you investigate where that child resides?
Ms. Evans: Well, we take their addresses. We have asked in the past for
electric bills or telephone bills so that we can verify the addresses, but a
few years ago we were told that because...
Mayor Suarez: Let me ask you a question about a related item here. Assuming
that we were to pass this and approve it, what about the increase in the fees?
I still don't understand that. Is that supposed to be to give us an increase
in our revenues of $31,900? Why should we increase the fees to the parents in
order to give more revenue back to City? I don't understand that.
Mr. Plummer: To try to make the program self liquidating.
Mr. Odio: We were trying to get to that, but it is very slow.
Mayor Suarez: We may just liquidate the program, instead of making it self
liquidating, I don't...
Mrs. Kennedy: Could you tell me how many, or how much, or how are the
families affected by this increase. Are we creating an undue hardship?
Ms. Evans: Well, yes, we will be. We have 57 families that have incomes of
under $10,000 a year, and they are headed by single women. They usually have
more than one child and the jobs that they are employed in, they are paid the
minimum wage, and...
Mrs. Kennedy: What is the staff ratio of staff per child?
Ms. Evans: Well, right now, we are using the minimum standards as allowed to
by Title 20. We have a Title 20 grant, so therefore we are required to have
lower staff ratios. For instance, under 12 months, we can have one person
with five infants, and for children 12 to 24 months, we need one person for
six. For...
Mayor Suarez: Supposing we were to tell you that instead of increasing the
fees, to get us back $31,900, that we would approve this if you saved $31,900
from other aspects of these programs - that we would approve it with that...
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Ms. Evans: Then I would have to cut staff.
mrs. Kennedy: How can you... there is no way that they can cut staff.
Mayor Suarez: What about the other things, the other expenditures? I mean,
every department in the City...
Ms. Evans: We are at the bare minimum now.
Mayor Suarez: That, coincidentally, happens to be about five percent, which
is the usual reduction that we are trying to accomplish in almost every
department in the City of Miami. You are telling me you can't save $31,900?
Mrs. Kennedy: In fact, do you feel that you have sufficient staff?
Ms. Evans: Yes, we can cut back on the food program.
Mr. Plummer: Well that you get a grant for.
Ms. Evans: Yes, but the grant is a reimbursement...
Mr. Plummer: How are you going to cut back on a grant?
Ms. Evans: It is a reimbursement. We simply eliminate snacks. We have
eliminated breakfast already,.last year, so we will eliminate...
Mayor Suarez: Oh, you are not going to ask this Commission to approve
eliminating a snack, oh no.
Mr. Plummer: As far as I am concerned, we are coming at this thing entirely
wrong and somewhere there is a warped thinking and maybe it is mine, OK? I am
saying that to cut back is not the answer. That is not the answer! What I am
trying to accomplish, is for a dollar value, where we have the opportunity to
do much better to provide for more kids. I am not interested in cutting back
on a snack. I'm not interested in cutting back as far as the dollars are
concerned. I just don't feel at $3,600 we are getting all of the value that
we could get, if we went to the private sector. Now, you know, I am just...
Ms. Evans: I can't agree with that, because...
Mr. Plummer: No, I know you can't, you are head of the program and your job
would be eliminated. I know you can't agree with that.
Ms. Evans: That's...
Mayor Suarez: Let's hear...
Mr. Plummer: OK.
Mayor Suarez: ...her viewpoints, so we can get this resolved, because
otherwise we are going to be arguing about this. Go ahead.
Me. Bobbie Ibarra: Thank you, my name is Bobbie Ibarra, I'm actually
representing the coalition of Hispanic American Women, but I think for the
record, I'd like to let you know what also I am affiliated with. I happen to
be chairperson of the City of Miami Commission on the Status of Women Child
Care Task Force. I am cochair of the United Way Child Care Task Force. I am
the chairperson of the Metro Dade Women's Association Child Care Task Force,
and on a number of other child care task force. To address your questions
specifically, Mr. Plummer, the private sector is looking into child care and
It is the way of the future, but to address the problems that you are talking
about, the private sector may not necessarily be the solution. The City needs
to decide what its overall child care commitment is. There is a need for
child care for working poor, there is a need for moderate income and affluent
income child care as well, but the needs for the working poor are the ones
that are sorely not being addressed right now, and I think the makeup of your
City's clientele indicate that. There is a 6,000 waiting list already for the
Title 20 County program. There are 41,000 right now babies in unlicensed and
unregistered day care centers. The United Way projects in three years there
will be over 25,000 child care slots that will be needed to be filled. If you
look at this and then you can cite a whole other set of series of statistics
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on child neglect, child abuse, the latch key program, and the cost for
- adequate child care, it is never enough. I implore you that you not cut the
ennt of thia nrnor,un, that qou not cut staff. If anything, establish some
analysis of the program for ways that you can cut costs, but we are looking to
impact every...
Mayor Suarez: What about the fees? You haven't addressed that, Bobbie.
Ms. Ibarra: I don't think you should raise them. The people that are using
your services and have the need right now are too poor to afford it. A dollar
may seem like minuscule monies to us, but to someone who earns $5,000 a year,
you are taking food off their table.
Mayor Suarez: That's me, as Mayor.
Ms. Ibarra: Well, you are also an attorney.
Mayor Suarez: You've got it, $5,000 a yearl
Mr. Plummer: See, you are still... you are addressing and fortifying my
statement in need, OK? There is no question about it. But, what I am saying
to you is, I am not interested in cutting, no way. I am saying that I think
that in the private sector, you can get the same service for half the price,
which in effect will allow you to double the number of opportunities for the
children that are waiting in line.
Ms. Ibarra: That is not so. This County is building a child care facility
right now. We are working up the cost figures right now. We are never going
to go to $36. He talked about $60, $70 per child, and even then we are going
to operate at a deficit.
Mayor Suarez: Bobbie, why don't you try to... I don't know what the rest of
the Commission wants to do. I'd be willing to go along with this for this
year, but I would want to be convinced that the private sector really is not
doing it for less, and that the number of children per supervisor is not any
higher in the private sector programs, because we keep hearing of all kinds of
people sitting around this room, "Who have their kids in private programs for
less" and that has to concern us. We are not getting to as many kids as it
seems like the private sector might be able to do, and you ought to...
Ms. Ibarra: There are State regulations that require a ratio. If you get
State dollars, if you get Federal dollars, you must adhere to those
regulations.
Mayor Suarez: Which is one of the reasons a lot of people are going to
privatizing things, certain regulations don't apply which were made up by some
bureaucrats some place that may not need to be in existence and applicable.
So, I...
Ms. Evans: The child -adult ratios apply to anyone who operates a day care
center.
- Mayor Suarez: Well, maybe that's... OK, we want to know why these figures
seem to, you know, not fit in with the ones that we ones that we are charging
with, essentially public sector programs.
Ms. Ibarra: All right, I think the fundamental difference is, that you are
dealing with a different clientele than the majority of the private sector
agencies. You are dealing with lower income people. The Title...
Mr. Plummer: But it is costing us twice as much, that is exactly the point.
Ms. Ibarra: Well, that is why I immediately addressed my remarks by saying
where is the City going to put its commitment? Are you going to put the
commitment to the needs of your community, which are the working poor, the
moderate income...
Mayor Suarez: He's talking about going to twice as many kids, that is the
needs of the community, Bobbie!
Mr. Plummer: I am talking about addressing twice as many kidsl
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Ms. Ibarra: You may get twice as many rich kids, but you are not going to
help the kid in Little Haiti.
Mr. Flummei. i am talking about the people that are presently in this
program. I am not talking about changing the rules of who apply!
Ms. Ibarra: Then I suggest you go for an R.F.P. and you will see what you
get. You just did one. You did one for the City.
Mayor Suarez: We are just asking for data to compare, to figure out why, at
least that is what I am asking for.
Mr. Plummer: Exactly!
Mayor Suarez: Why it is that the private sector is doing it for less, that is
all.
Ms. Ibarra: And I would be happy to work with the City on helping it get the
data.
Mr. Plummer: And exactly... Mr. Mayor, what she just said is exactly the
motion I want to make, and that is to go to an R.F.P. and see if there is,
from the private sector, an interest to do such, exactly what I wanted to do,
so thank you.
Ms. Ibarra: One other point about your R.F.P., though, you do need to
consider there is a stability question, that a lot of problems private sectors
have, which is maintaining the same staff, and what is very important for
child development that you would lose if you go to the private sector is they
have an extremely high turnover rate and attrition rate of their personnel.
My understanding is that in the City program you do not have that, and what is
vital for a child is that the developmental needs are addressed adequately,
and I would be concerned that in a private sector you do lose that, because
the people turn over because they are paid extremely low, very low in the
private sector, and they leave when they find other jobs, and that is a
reality.
Mrs. Kennedy: That is right and this is a necessary service that we must
continue to offer, and this is... by the way, Mr. Manager, one of my budget
priorities and I am putting you on the record for next year, in fact, in the
next budget, I would like to see the Department, at least retain the same
number of employees and perhaps even at some point, add more. I personally
visited three of the centers and they are in a deplorable condition. I don't
know, Ms. Evans, how long these centers have been there, but let me tell you
that we need to get some repairs. The bathrooms...
Ms. Evans: They are prefabricated buildings and they were constructed in
1974.
Mrs. Kennedy: And they haven't had any major new repairs?
Ms. Evans: No, I think they were originally designed to last for five years,
and no...
Mayor Suarez: I agree with that in terms of priority, but I also agree with
the Vice -Mayor that we ought to try to reach more kids, unless you prove to us
that the private sector is not doing as good a job, and then you have a whole
different argument. I will go along with it for this year, Commissioner,
but...
Mrs. Kennedy: OK.
Mayor Suarez:... I want to get the Commission's consensus on this so we can
get it resolved.
Mr. Plummer: Well, I will go along with it. I think we have no choice. To go
out with an A.F.P. takes time. There is no question that we have got to
proceed. These people cannot be left in the lurch, but I think that between
now and next year, or before budget time, is where this thing needs to be
addressed, and Mr. Manager, let me go one step further, and I think that, you
know, in these areas in which we are giving City property for community
centers, that there should be a sense of obligation on behalf of those centers
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to how they day care program. I think it is absolutely mandated that when
they are using City property that they should in fact, have an obligation to
pick up a respa"04"1i..,
Ms. Ibarra: So you are not going to raise the fee?
Mr. Plummer: Excuse me?
Ms. Ibarra: You are not going to raise the fee?
Mayor Suarez: Well, we never resolved that, and your motion... we don't even
have a motion yet, does somebody want to make a motion and include within it
whether we are going to raise or not raise the fee?
Mr. Plummer: Well, let me ask you this. On the fee, what...
Mr. Howard: I just wanted to answer your question, Commissioner. We do have,
in our community , a preschool program. That is self-sustaining right
now. Of course that is only a half day program, but that is under way.
Mr. Plummer: OK, what is the average of what a person would pay on a weekly
basis if the increase were approved?
Ms. Evans: The average fee would be about $36 a week, but we will have 106
families...
Mr. Plummer: OK, but that would be...
Ms. Evans:... with incomes that qualify for that.
Mr. Plummer: OK, but that would be... $36 a week would be at the increase as
proposed.
Mayor Suarez: What was the prior?
Ms. Evans: Right. These are people who have incomes under $10,000 per year.
Mayor Suarez: For those people, what was the prior fee??
Ms. Evans: $35.
Mayor Suarez: So $1.00 is the...
Mr. Plummer: $1.00 difference?
Ms. Evans: They can hardly afford it now. You have to keep in mind that the
people that we are serving do not receive welfare, do not receive food stamps.
They receive no type of subsidy. They work in substandard jobs because a lot
of them are refugees from Haiti or Central America, making $3.35 an hour.
They are single women who are heads of households, who have more than one
child.
Mayor Suarez: You are saying we are at the margin. If we go one more dollar,
we could be... Dorothy, do you want to address that point?
Ms. Dorothy Sibley: I am Dorothy Sibley, executive director of the Dade
County Commission on Status of Women, I had a whole bunch of statistics and so
on here , but I know you have heard that.
Mayor Suarez: Just on this point.
Ms. Sibley: And the point I wanted to make, if I may, is a point that I think
Ms. Evans was trying to make, that the private sector has not been interested
in putting child care centers in the areas where these children have to have
child care. That is the point I wanted to make.
Mayor Suarez: Well, there is always a way of testing that, and that is what
we may be doing this year.
Ms. Sibley: The R.F.P., yes.
Mayor Suarez: Anything on the fees?
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Mrs. Kennedy: How do you feel about the fees?
Ms. Sibley: I don't... I think a dollar is going co make a big difference to
these people.
Mrs. Kennedy: OK, Mr. Mayor, I'd like to meet with both of you at lunch time
and table this until this afternoon.
Mayor Suarez: Sounds all right with me, if the rest of the Commission has no
problems.
Mr. Plummer: I have no problem with this. See you... I just find it
extremely... Dorothy, I am sorry, I find it extremely difficult to understand
a dollar a week would make a differencel... not a dollar. Now, if you were
talking about $10, $15, $20, yes, I understand that, but I can't agree with a
dollar. I really can't.
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: It is a pack of cigarettes.
Mr. Plummer: Yes, one pack of cigarettes.
Mr. Dawkins: Let me ask one question of staff. What if we do not increase...
I mean, are we going to bring this to a head, or are we going to stand up here
and before I answer my question?
Mr. Plummer: No, she wants to bring it up this afternoon.
Mrs. Kennedy: I want to bring this up this afternoon.
Mr. Dawkins: Well, I'll... fine, this afternoon. Thank you. So moved, so
moved, so moved.
Mayor Suarez: OK, it is tabled until this afternoon.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I would ask, that I would like, to the director of
the child day, I would like a list of the names and the addresses of all the
children that are in the program presently.
Mr. Dawkins: This afternoon.
Mr. Plummer: Not necessarily, because I don't think she can get it.
Ms. Evans: Yes, I do, I have the information.
Mr. Plummer: If she can get it, fine.
Mr. Dawkins: Well, they have got it in the computer. We have got
$50,000,000... how much?... we have $50,000,000 worth of computers, right, Mr.
Sand?
Mayor Suarez: I know our budget a year is about $5,000,000 for computers.
Mr. Plummer: The policy, as we set by this Commission was that all spaces are
to be filled by residents of the City and only outside of the City when all
City residents were in fact, satisfied.
Mr. Odio: I think only exception you will find, might be a City employee.
Mr. Plummer: I don't remember that being a problem, and I don't know of a
City employee, Mr. Manager, that is making under $10,000 a year.
Mayor Suarez: Yes, you may not have too many qualifying for it. That may be
academic, we can investigate that.
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30. OPENED BIDS FOR CONSTRUCTIO14 OF N.W. 8 STREET ROAD HIGHWAY IMPROVEMENT B-
4520.
This being the date and time advertised for receiving sealed bids for
construction of NW. 8 Street road highway improvement B-4520, the Mayor
announced that the City Commission was now ready to receive sealed bids;
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Dawkins, who moved
its adoption:
MOTION NO. 87-332
A MOTION TO RECEIVE, OPEN, AND READ ALOUD SEALED BIDS
FOR CONSTRUCTION OF N.W. 8 STREET ROAD HIGHWAY
IMPROVEMENT B-4520, FURTHER REFERRING SAID BIDS TO THE
ADMINISTRATION FOR TABULATION OF SAME.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Kennedy, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
BIDS WERE RECEIVED FROM THE FOLLOWING FIRMS:
GARCIA ALLEN CONSTRUCTION CO.
MADSEN/BARR CORPORATION
WILLIAM PAVING CO.
ALFRED LLOYD & SONS
Mayor Suarez: I accept the motion. Commissioner.
$825,360.24
$637,004.00
$641,763.84
$654,657.85
Mr. Don Cather: The estimated cost of the project was $625,000. Madsen is
apparently the low bidder at $637,000, which is within the five percent.
Mayor Suarez: Very good.
Mr. Dawkins: I move this be sent on to the Manager.
Mayor Suarez: Do we have a second for the motion?
Ms. Hirai: The motion that opened the bids can refer them for tabulation.
Mayor Suarez: OK.
31. DISCUSSION AND DEFERRAL OF PROPOSED FIRST READING ORDINANCE REGARDING
IMPACT FEES.
Mayor Suarez: Item 36.
Mr. Dawkins: Move.
Mayor Suarez: Impact fees[
Mr. Dawkins: You know, impact fees have been at a standstill and I am with
J.L. 100 percent. For two years we have been sitting here, and I don't know,
staff can't defend what we have, the industry does not want to accept what we
have. What is your recommendation, J.L., because...
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Mr. Plummer: Well, Miller, you know, my problem is simple, that the impact
fees, the impacts are being created every day. Kpra wp hat.e Pot o.n11^A r^°7
for what, a year and one-half, Sergio, trying to put a damn package together
to get reasonable returns to this City from developers who are making their
profits; yet, I am told this morning by a department head that he cannot
substantiate and defend that which has been proposed by his department. Now,
you know, how in the hell can this City sit by and let these dollars
continuously flow, not into the City coffers? Miller, I got to say we got
defer, you know, and I say that if a City department head is telling me he
can't defend that which has been reported for his department.
Mr. Dawkins: Well, let me hear from the department head what is indefensible
about it.
Mr. Plummer: Well...
Mr. Dawkins: I mean, let him tell, whoever he is.
Mr. Plummer: Solid Waste.
Mr. Dawkins: He, she...
Mayor Suarez: That also happens to be one of the ones that they have, that
the industry has attack the most as not having a rational nexus to you know...
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I call to all of your attention, in this particular
month's Florida League of Cities, there is an extensive article on impact fees
by the State of Florida. Now, I know that all the developers who are coming
here asking that this be deferred until the State implements theirs are merely
trying to save money. I understand that, they want to get all of their
permits in prior to the State enacting the law, so that they don't have to pay
any impact fees, and you know, I understand that. What I am saying is, I call
to all of your attention, this is a very, very good thing in the Florida
League of Cities Journal this month, but you know, I guess I got to criticize
the Administration prior to you and your Administration. We are letting a
hell of a lot of fees which could legitimately be collected by this City, go
out the door, and the longer we procrastinate, the more dollars are going out
the door. Now, Mr. Manager, you have very successfully, imposed upon every
department head this year, a cost saving factor. OK, now here are cost saving
factors, here are dollars that substantiate, and yet, we don't seem to be
making the same effort to collect these dollars which have been imposed by the
State, as we are for the cost savings. Well, you can't pass an ordinance when
a man stands up and tells me he can't defend, that is crazy.
Mr. Odio: Well, I think it is the way they developed the numbers. You can
amend the...
Mr. Plummer: You see, part of the problem...
Mayor Suarez: I'm sorry. Sergio is over -viewing the whole process and has
been defending ...
Ms. Odio: What you can do is amend the numbers in the second reading...
Mr. Rodriguez: Before the second reading.
Mayor Suarez: If we were all sure about the numbers we could amend them prior
to the second reading. If we were unsure about the way the whole process is
being set up, then...
Mr. Plummer: Then I second Dawkins' motion for the purposes of first reading,
so that we can amend between now and the second.
Mr. Dawkins: Wait, I mean, I move it. Let me hear from Mr. Ingraham. Why
can't you defend what the hell what we got?
Mr. Joe Ingraham: The figures there, from our Department of Computations, in
refer to capitalization costs, is far beyond what we predict the cost, or what
the cost actually is, and those figures need to be adjusted.
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Mayor Suarez: Where did they come from, if they didn't come from your
department, Joe?
Mr.'Ugraham: The figures came from our department, in reference to how they
were plat and formed is a different story, and that's...
Mayor Suarez: In other words, how much of that money is actually tied to new
development, is that where you have the problem?
Mr. Ingraham: Well, it is the actual cost of capitalization. We provided
what we know the costs to be.
Mayor Suarez: How did they blow up from the time they left your department to
the time they came to us?
Mr. Ingraham: That's what needs to be worked out.
Mayor Suarez: Well, yes, then we can't possibly vote on this thing.
Mr. Ingraham: That's what needs to be worked out.
Mr. Plummer: I don't think you should even pass it on first reading.
Mr. Dawkins: No, OK, that is right.
Mr. Plummer: With these comments on the record, you would be in court before
you knew what hit you and then we would be completely blown out of the saddle.
I think one of the problems, as I find out what happened, is that for example
in sanitation, he didn't develop his own numbers. He developed a set of
numbers and then somebody else made the final decisions and I think that is
where the problems are coming.
Mr. Rodriguez: I am sorry...
Mr. Plummer: Let me ask, Sergio...
Mr. Rodriguez:... but I have to put on the record these numbers were developed
by both departments and until yesterday they were approved by the Department,
and we have series of memos on this.
Mr. Dawkins: What you also have to put back on the record, is that
Sanitation, and who else was not included when you developed the impact fee?
Who?
Mr. Rodriguez: There were several things that were not included.
Mr. Dawkins: Name them for me.
Mr. Rodriguez: Solid Waste was not included.
Mr. Dawkins: OK.
Mr. Rodriguez: And that was included since January.
Mr. Dawkins: Who else?
Mr. Rodriguez: G.S.A. was not included and there is a portion on Police that
had to be readjusted.
Mr. Dawkins: And why weren't they included?
Mr. Rodriguez: They couldn't justify... they wouldn't have figures that could
be justified in court.
Mr. Dawkins: No, wait a minute, they didn't get their stuff to you in time.
Isn't that what you are told me? They did not get the material to you in
time.
Mr. Rodriguez: That could be acceptable.
Mr. Plummer: They need more than a year and one-half.
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Mr. Rodriguez: The problem is this, that they have to be able to defend... we
prepared the ordinance, but they have to be able to defend this in court,
technical ,..,mouse they are the ones that are going to be
court as toe figures that we have.
Mr. Plummer: What do you anticipate, Sergio, that impact fees will bring into
this City a year?... ball park, not holding you to it.
Mr. Rodriguez: $2,500,000, I believe.
Mr. Plummer: So, at the present time, by procrastination, we have lost almost
$4,000,000. If that doesn't tell somebody in the Administration that you need
to get off your duff and get it done, I don't know what does! I don't know
what does) By our goofing around, we have lost approximately $4,000,000. How
much savings did you incur this year, roughly?
(INAUDIBLE BACKGROUND COMMENTS)
Mr. Plummer: Yes.
(INAUDIBLE BACKGROUND COMMENTS)
Mr. Plummer: One-third?
Ms. Hirai: Mr. Manager, please use the mike.
Mr. Dawkins: Well, how long is it going to take you to get with the rest of
the staff and get this in a form where somebody can defend it if we go to
court?
Mr. Rodriguez: We are ready and whenever we can get the information...
Mr. Dawkins: You are not ready because Joe isn't and you are not ready
because he is not ready.
Mayor Suarez: Let the City Manager speak to that, Sergio, because if he is
going to be the one hammering out the agreements here.
Mr. Odio: Solid Waste has the new figures that they will defend in court, if
need be. They have it now.
Mayor Suarez: But when can that be built into the whole package?
Mr. Dawkins: OK, can this be done by the next Commission meeting, or the
following Commission meeting?
Mr. Odio: We will have it April 30th.
Mr. Dawkins: OK, now, let me see how to say this...
Mr. Rodriguez: May I say something now, on this? In these new figures, we
will have Solid Waste's new figures, but we might not be able to have on time,
G.S.A. ...
Mr. Dawkins: Go ahead.
Mr. Plummer: Still on impact fees.
Mr. Rodriguez:... and will we have the police readjustments?
Mr. Dawkins: Why not?
Mayor Suarez: Oh, yes, you will have them on time.
Mr. Dawkins: Hold it, hold it, Mr. Mayor. Why not?
Mr. Rodriguez: Well, if they give me the information...
Mayor Suarez: It is not up to you.
Mr. Dawkins: Hold it, hold it.
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Mr. Rodriguez: It is not up to me.
Mayor Suarez: Right, it is not up to you. If the City Manager...
Mr. Dawkins: No, no, wait, Mr. Mayor. Tell me why it is not up to you?
Mr. Plummer: See, this exactly...
Mr. Dawkins: Hold it.
Mr. Plummer: ... the reason, after a year and one-half, we have not a damn
thing accomplished.
Mr. Dawkins: Well, now, that is why we are going to get something
accomplished now. Why isn't it up to you?
Mr. Rodriguez: Because I have to get from the department something that they
can defend.
Mr. Dawkins: All right, fine, now, fine. All right, will the department head
of G.S.A. come to the mike. What prohibits you, sir, from providing Sergio
with what he needs to be able, for all of you to come back here at the next
Commission meeting, or the second Commission meeting, which was...?
Mr. Ron Williams: Nothing, sir.
Mr. Dawkins: All right.
Mr. Plummer: Wait, wait. Mr. Williams, who in your department is delegated
to authority to put these numbers together?
Mr. Williams: I am, sir. I am doing them, yes.
Mr. Plummer: You are? And what background do you have in planning as to the
financial responsibility for impact fees?
Mr. Williams: I don't have that background.
Mr. Plummer: There, you see? And please, I am trying to put you down, OK?
Mr. Williams: If I may explain, Commissioner.
Mr. Plummer: All I am saying is, you are dealing with people who do not have
the knowledge and the background to bring into this City legitimately
$2,500,000 to $3,000,000 a year, and here we are just sitting around and never
draws...
Mr. Dawkins: Well, who does in the City of Miami, if it is not in the City of
Miami work force, have the expertise to contract with to get what the hell we
want done? I mean, if we do not have it in house, where we can get it out
house, and pay for it outside and get it done?
Mr. Plummer: $2,500,0001 Let me ask you, Sergio, who in the Police
Department is putting this together for you?
Mr. Rodriguez: Longueria, Longueria.
Mr. Plummer: He is a great helicopter pilot.
Mr. Rodriguez: I don't know.
Mr. Plummer: You see, you don't know, OK? Now, Joe is a great... well, you
dispute that, all right. He is a helicopter pilot.
Mayor Suarez: That is why you do so well in these Commission meetings.
Everybody else gets all kinds of grief in this low key approach of yours.
Mr. Pl. =r.
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Mr. Rodriguez: Well...
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Mr. Plummer: No, no, no, I think it is a very key pointt You cannot put
these numbers and facts together without having people that are knowledgeable
and experienced in a background, because if you don't, you are going to get
blown out of the water when you go to court. There is no question in my mind.
Mr. Rodriguez: What we do is, we project the number of population, based on
the new approach that we have, since last year. We project the population
increases and the employment increases and based on that, we ask the different
departments to give us the standards that they can support in court for that
kind of population increases and we arrive to figure that will give us the
capital improvement necessary, and based on that, we come to figures and we
divide it.
Mr. Dawkins: All right, who do you have on staff with you, to assign to the
three departments who just said that they have got the figures, but they don't
have the expertise to do what you just said.
Mr. Rodriguez: We have Dave Whittington, that has been working on this for
two years and Kitty Carlson, and we help them, but at the end, they have to
support themselves, their own figures.
Mr. Dawkins: Well, why in the hell can they support their own figures when
they tell you they don't know what the hell they are doing?
Mr. Rodriguez: Well, I didn't say...
Mr. Dawkins: I mean, come on, let's be... I mean, don't be, come on, get off
this. They just finished tell you, "I don't know what I am doing," and now
you are going to hand him some figures and tell him you have got to come back
and defend this, and he says, "What the hell am I going to defend, I don't
know what I am talking about."
Mr. Odio: Commissioner, h e did not say he did not know what he was doing. He
was as specific.....
Mr. Dawkins: He said, "I do not know how to address this to impact fees."
That is what he said. -
Mr. Odio: No, sir. Commissioner...
Mr. Dawkins: All right, hold it, hold it. I think we...
Mr. Odio: Commissioner Plummer asked him a question and...
Mr. Dawkins: Come to the mike, Mr. Williams.
Mr. Odio: He asked him if he had...
Mr. Dawkins: Ask your question again, J.L. Ask your question, J.L.
Mr. Plummer: He answered it right.
Mr. Dawkins: No, wait a minute. Mr. Manager. just threatened his job. Don't
ask no more. Go ahead, Mr. Manager. Mr. Manager just threatened... Mr.
Williams. Go ahead and ask him.
Mr. Odio: No, no, no. If, I may, he got the answer to the question he asked.
Mr. Williams: Let me explain.
Mr. Odio: Which is not what he should hear, we do have the expertise to get
his answer and they are saying they are not satisfied with it.
Mr. Plummer: No, no, I disagree with you.
Mr. Odio No, what he is saying is...
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Mr. Odio: They know what they are doing!
Mr. Plummer: The only way to measure ability is in results.
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Mr. Odio: No. You asked him of background.
Mr. Plummer: We don't have results after a year and one-half!
Mr. Odio: Well, I want...
Mr. Plummer: The ability must not be therel
Mr. Odio: I don't want to address the year and one-half. What I do want to
say that he does have the know how to be able to put these numbers together.
Now, you asked him if he had a background on impact fees. Nobody here has.
Mr. Dawkins: That is why... where we can bring in a consultant that will give
you a hand?
Mr. Plummer: When are we going to get results. That is the only answer I
want to know.
- Mr. Odic: We don't need a consultant, Commissioner. We can put the members
together.
Mayor Suarez: OK, we are going to indicate to the Manager that we will have
results for the next Commission meeting, otherwise, God knows what will
happen. All right?
Mr. Odio: I will have it at the next Commission meeting. I promise you that.
Mr. Dawkins: All right, Madam City Attorney...
Mayor Suarez: Steven, go ahead and approach the mike. After the Commissioner
is finished, we will take your remarks.
Mr. Dawkins: Madam City Attorney.
Mrs. Dougherty: Yes, sir.
Mr. Dawkins: How does your staff feel about defending these impact fees as
put together by J.L.'s experts?
Mr. Plummer: What?
Mrs. Dougherty: Mr. Commissioner, our ability to defend is only going to be
as good as the department's ability to explain how they came to the numbers.
Mr. Plummer: That's a cop outl
Mayor Suarez: Very, very subtle!
Mr. Plummer: That is a cop out!
Mayor Suarez: Blame it on your witnesses. OK, are we going to... well, how
does the Commissioner feel? We... OK.
Mr. Plummer: You have got to defer it
Mrs. Kennedy: Yes, we have got to defer it.
Mayor Suarez: OK, we have got a motion and a second. We are going to get
their act together for the next Commission meeting. You are going to oppose
that?
(INAUDIBLE BACKGROUND COMMENTS)
Mrs. Kennedy: In fact, Sergio, is the fact that the State has created a new
impact fee ordinance, which should be a model...
w.- R.. • • . ..79., -,% ' - le f i slat ion by the State, but we are OK with that,
because what we...
Mrs. Kennedy: Why so?
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Mr. Rodriguez: The legislation says that we have to comply with it when we do
the comprehensive plan and the capital improvement element of that, and we
will do that by 1988. It means that we could go along now and get an impact
fee in place, if you want to, and then in 1988, comply with that one.
Mrs. Kennedy: But, then we will have to adjust it in '88.
Mr. Rodriguez: At that time, yes, but maybe that will be adjusted by 188 too,
the legislation from the State. There are many unknowns.
Mr. Steven Cooke -Yarborough: Mr. Mayor and Commissioners, I am Steven Cooke -
Yarborough, 3555 Crystal Court in the North Grove. I am vice-president of
Tigertail Association, and chairman of the zoning committee of Miami Civic
League. I've been authorized to speak for both organizations here today. We
would like to see this pass on first reading. However, we feel that the
document as it now exists, or the copy that we have, which is a January
document, needs tightening in several ways. The definition of floor area
ratio for one, and...
Mayor Suarez: Then you're going to get it by next Commission meeting.
Mr. Plummer: Well, Steve, what I would suggest for you to do, rather than
going through that today, is to get with Sergio, and incorporate that thinking
with him direct, and hopefully...
Mayor Suarez: He can give directly to the Administration.
Mr. Cooke -Yarborough: OK, but we would like to add one...
Mayor Suarez: If you want to put it on the record, but I mean, you can go
ahead and give it to the Administration. They will incorporate it, or not
incorporate it, depending on how they feel about it by the next Commission
meeting.
Mr. Cooke -Yarborough: But, we also would like one other impact fee added to
the list, which isn't there now, and that is, we think there should be a legal
fund set up for which the impact fee is charged and put into a legal fund, so
that civic organizations, or the citizens can draw from that fund to hire for
themselves legal or professional help in presenting their side of issues
before this Commission in the lower courts. We think that ought to be an
impact fee and administered by the City, and we would like to see that
considered and put it as another impact fee. Thank you.
Mr. Plummer: Well, you are saying a fund that would be approved by this
Commission, and I am not speaking to you or your organization. We have seen
many cases time and time again, where legal action has been started just as
harassment. Now, that... I am not saying that your organization... please
don't mislead me, but I would say that if such a fund, and I think it would be
a good idea to establish such a fund in which, when it legally approved by
this Commission could be used or reimbursed, I would have no problem with it,
but I would hate to see where so many cases, that that is used nothing more
than a delay and a harassment, that I think that is the pitfall, or the
dangers that has to be watched.
Mr. Cooke -Yarborough: Mr. Commissioner, I see what you mean, but on the other
hand, you do know there are some legitimate cases where the citizens just
cannot hire this help, so...
Mr. Plummer: And in those cases, this Commission could approve it.
Mr. Cooke -Yarborough: So, maybe...
Mayor Suarez: Let me tell you, and I am not trying to give you advice or
anything like that, but it is going to be a little tough for the City Attorney
to defend a situation where she has got to prove that there is a rational
connection between the fees imposed, and there is going to be a legal fund
created to give to citizen groups, presumably try to prove that there was no
-•'•{��^� #%#�tion, and that is supposed to have a rational connection to the
new :development. That is a tough one. You guys came up with a greater one
there.
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Mr. Cooke -Yarborough: I know it is a tough one. I know it is a tough one,
but half the thing is if the fund is administered by a committee, which would
be both sides.
Mr. Plummer: I am told according to the law, it is illegal, you can't do it.
It must be for capital improvements only, so you can't do it under this.
Mr. Cooke -Yarborough: It can't be done, OK, so we are...
Mayor Suarez: It is going to be a touch one there, but we will take your
input on the other issues prior to the next Commission. You will meet with
Sergio who is eager to meet with you and...
Mr. Cooke -Yarborough: Right, thank you.
Mayor Suarez: We have a motion to defer and a second, and it is going to be
for what meeting?
Mr. Dawkins: Hold it now.
Mr. Rodriguez: May meeting.
Mr. Dawkins: Go ahead.
Mayor Suarez: At the risk of losing the old momentum, I mean, you know, go
ahead.
Mr. Howard Scharlin: I am favor of deferral.
Mr. Plummer: How many permits do you have in the wings?
Mr. Scharlin: No, I just... my name is Howard Scharlin, I am chairman of the
Downtown Development Authority committee on
Mr. Carollo: Howard, excuse me for a second. This has nothing to do with the
lawsuit you all have filed against the City of Miami, right?
Mr. Scharlin: As far as I know.
Mr. Carollo: OK, just wanted to get on the record.
Mr. Scharlin: As far as I know. I would just like to urge the Commission not
to be deferring it until April. I understand the frustration that
Commissioner Plummer has experienced over the years. I don't want you think
that the Downtown Development Authority, or any of the developer's groups that
I know, not withstanding what seems to be the impression, are opposed to the
concept of impact fees. That is not the case. We have been opposed to what
we have seen written, not because we don't like the idea. We sense that it is
not really getting to what the impact is. There is a State statute that is
now being considered. I have read it. All of the developers that I know like
what they see. It seems to me that it addresses the method of separating out
from what is to happen in the future, the portion which is truly...
Mayor Suarez: But, you understand, of course, the Commissioner's concern,
that if we wait for that to happen, we are losing whatever revenue would be
derived from a validly passed impact fee ordinance.
Mr. Scharlin: Understood. If you sat back two years ago and said, "Well, you
are going to wait two years and then the State will do it,". that is one thing.
You are now talking about considering first reading in April. You are talking
about a State Legislature that will have acted by June.
Mayor Suarez: Effective day, when though?
Mr. Scharlin: At least you will have criteria.
Mrs. Kennedy: July 1.
Mr. Scharlin: May I suggest to you, criteria include the criteria that they
are including in the State Legislature.
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Mayor Suarez: Has the State proposed an effective date for their new
ordinance, new statute?
Mr. Scharlin: I don't know, but I know that it doesn't provide that you don't
have to comply till '88 It is my impression that the master plan provision
does.
Mr. Plummer: You have no problem. If we act in May, it would be second
reading in June and not effective as law for thirty days thereafter.
Mr. Scharlin: I am just suggesting that your ordinance, as it is written take
into account the criteria that has been included in the State statute. If
that ordinance was what was here, I think I would be speaking in favor of
passing it today and it doesn't even need the numbers, it sets up the formulas
and the methods for creating the numbers.
Mayor Suarez: When would the State would be proposing an effective date for
their new statute, Sergio?
Mr. Rodriguez: To comply, effective date, it is P.Z.B.-5, but to comply with
that ordinance, it is July 1st, by the way, July 1st of 1987. To comply with
that ordinance, we will have to have finished the comprehensive plan and the
elements of the comprehensive plan that are due to be finished in September,
or October of 1988, so...
Mr. Plummer: In which they gave extensions out to everybody!
Mr. Rodriguez: Right, so to apply with that...
Mr. Scharlin: But, it doesn't require that you wait that long, and because,
for the comprehensive... you need the comprehensive plan, they say.
Mayor Suarez: OK, what we are all saying, Howard, is that it doesn't hurt,
either side, well, it certainly doesn't hurt your side, if we waited until
May, to pay this on first reading.
Mr. Scharlin: That's true.
Mayor Suarez: All right.
Mr. Rodriguez: May 14.
Mr. Plummer: Delay, delay, delay!
Mr. Lowell: Mr. Mayor, there is a policy issue on this, that the Commission
might give some guidance to the staff on.
Mayor Suarez: Give us your name and address, Jack.
Mr. Lowell: Jack Lowell, 801 Brickell Avenue. Incorporated in the ordinance
as drafted are the capital items for certain services, which the private
sector generally does not use, solid waste being the largest and capital
elements are a large part of this budget. We would like some clarification...
Mayor Suarez: As you said, it is a philosophical thing, because we feel that
the private sector does use solid waste services, although they haven't been
paying for it and we are about to impose a fee.
Mr. Lowell: OK, we...
Mr. Odio: That is right, I mean, who cleans up your sidewalks and your curbs
and the streets and... you know, everything also that goes...
Mr. Lowell: Let me give you a specific example. The suggestion from the
private sector has been that where a service is clearly not used, that there
not be a mandated impact. In solid waste, most of the larger buildings
contract with private haulers to do their solid waste, and there is a large
element, the largest single element in this ordinance you are considering, is
the solid waste disposal budget. What we are suggesting is that if a private
sector is not going to use that service, then there shouldn't be any capital
impact in the budget for that particular item.
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Mayor Suarez: It is hard for us to estimate that figure, because we don't
know how much the private sector is going to be using it, once we impose the
fee that we are going to impose on them whether they use it or not, which is
about to go into effect, I think pretty soon, right?
Mr. Rodriguez: Right.
Mr. Dawkins: Whatever private hauler comes in there, he goes on my streets.
Mr. Lowell: Yes, sir.
Mr. Dawkins: All right, trash blows off his trucks. I have to sweep it up.
Mayor Suarez: There are all kinds of indirect effects, yes.
Mr. Dawkins: He also only picks up solid waste. We have to pick up the trash =
and debris, and we also have to clean the streets, so somewhere along the
line, that is an impact.
Mr. Lowell: All right, if the rationale is not really clear on what will
happen, as you'll collect the money and then have to give it back to the
development community later on.
Mr. Dawkins: You don't have to worry about getting any back.
Mr. Lowell: Well, that is the way the ordinance is...
Mr. Dawkins: That is why we are going through this now, to insure that we
don't have to refund anything.
Mr. Lowell: OK, philosophically then, as I understand it, the intention is to
go ahead and have the City collect for services which may or may not be used
by the development community.
Mayor Suarez: No, not quite, we are just having a hard time estimating what
proportion of it is attributable to the development community.
Mr. Dawkins: You tell me how... tell me any building that you are thinking
of, that would be constructed that will not impact on solid waste.
Mr. Lowell: Well, respectfully, Commissioner, the building we just completed,
I think it impacts. It is 801 Brickell Avenue.
Mr. Dawkins: What kind of business are you in?
Mr. Lowell: We are in the commercial real estate business, developer
business.
Mr. Dawkins: All right, and how many floors to your building?
Mr. Lowell: Twenty-six.
Mr. Dawkins: How many occupants in your building?
Mr. Lowell: About half of that, thirteen of the floors are occupied.
Mr. Dawkins: Do you flush your toilet?
Mr. Lowell: Yes, and we pay the Water and Sewer Authority for the privilege.
Mr. Dawkins: All right, you pay the water and sewer bill. All right, sir, so
that has no impact on a greater need to develop our sanitation system and
improve it? That doesn't impact on it?
Mr. Lowell: It did if we paid those impact fees.
Mr. Dawkins: All right, now, who picks up your waste?
Mr. Lowell: Private hauler.
Mr. Dawkins: All right now, you have shrubbery?
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Mr. Dawkins: Yes.
Mr. Dawkins: All right, the wind blows the leaves off the tree. Who picks
that up?
Mr. Lowell: We do.
Mr. Dawkins: No, you don't, not when it blows down the street!
Mr. Lowell: Currently, we are cleaning portions of the median in the public
sector.
Mayor Suarez: Jack, there are some indirect effects, there is no doubt about
it.
Mr. Lowell: Yes, sir, I am suggesting that at this point the ordinance has
got a heavy disproportion of capital items for services not currently used by
the private sector. It has to be looked at very carefully and I suggest some
policy guidance would be very helpful with the staff. Thank you.
Mayor Suarez: You have got a month to work on the figures.
Mrs. Kennedy: Sergio, perhaps also we can include some kind of a grace period
for those project which have applied to the City for permits, but have not
received a permit yet.
Mr. Plummer: I think all...
Mr. Rodriguez: We have the language prepared on that, that if you want to, we
can pass on to you all, so you can read it. What we tried to do with that, we
also calculated the delay of implementation of that, how much would that be,
and we came out to a figure of how much. It is in a range between $70,000 and
$170,000 if you delay it for 90 days.
Mr. Plummer: Exactly.
- Mr. Rodriguez: I mean, that is a policy decision you can make, and there is
some rationale for doing it, but I mean, I want to make sure you knew the
costs to you all. If I may, that would be something that if you it,strsct me
to do so, I can include a grace period of 90 days.
Mrs. Kennedy: Sure.
Mr. Plummer: But why? Why would you include that?
Mrs. Kennedy: Because there are a lot of projects who have applied for plans.
Mr. Plummer: Every one of the projects for the past two years have been
stamped, "Subject to impact fees," and they were put on notice the day they
took out their permit.
Mrs. Kennedy: Were they all put on notice?
Mr. Plummer: All of them!... every one of them.
Mayor Suarez: Are we talking about grace periods or an exemption?... a
grandfathering of the...
Mrs. Kennedy: Grandfathering...
Mayor Suarez: I just want to make sure.
Mr. Rodriguez: Exemption from payment for 90 days.
Mr. Plummers Well, you know, why would... you know...
Mr. Rodriguez: It is up to you, I mean, I am trying to tell you that if you
do it, there will be a cost associated with it.
Mr. Plummer: Why would we...?
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Mayor Suarez: How about if we decide that then, when we take up the first
reading of the ordinance?
Mr. Plummer: Why would we give away $170,000, that is what you are doing.
You are just giving it away!
Mrs. Kennedy: OK, my question then, has everybody been put on notice?
Mr. Rodriguez: Everybody... the major projects have been put on notice and
everybody that has followed the impact fee ordinance since we started and in
May you told us to include impact fees City wide, they should know about it.
Mayor Suarez: But, the procedure that Commissioner Plummer indicated would
have been a universal procedure. Either you have been stamping them all, or
not.
Mr. Plummer: You know, the South Florida Regional Planning Council has been
imposing impact fees for years!
Mayor Suarez: Yes, on the very large projects.
Mr. Plummer: Yes, OK, but I am saying, they are imposing them, and nobody has
taken them to court over it. Now, why should we let some of these other -
developers off the hook?
Mayor Suarez: Well, the problem is they are individualized item by item,
where you can tie the actual development to a particular infrastructure need
and...
Mr. Plummer: Exactlyl
Mayor Suarez: ...this is a universal thing.
Mr. Rodriguez: They were over a certain size. This is City-wide, so City-
wide, we have not been stamping anybody on that. That is clear, I can tell
you that.
Mr. Plummer: All right.
Mrs. Kennedy: And let's put the whole thing back.
Mayor Suarez: What is the date then, of the hearing?
Mr. Plummer: To come back at the next meeting, right?
Mrs. Kennedy: To come back at the next meeting.
Mr. Rodriguez: May 14th... oh...
Mr. Plummer: No, no, April 30th, it will come back.
Mr. Rodriguez: We only have five days to have the item ready on the agenda.
In five days we are not going to get this resolved.
Mr. Plummer: OK, I mean, you know... not you personally, but you
procrastinated so long now, what the hell is a little bit more time, right?
It is only money.
Mr. Rodriguez: Commissioner Plummer, I am ready today.
Mr. Plummer: Your salary doesn't depend on whether you make money for the
City or not.
Mr. Rodriguez: I beg your pardon, but I think it does.
Mr. Dawkins: But his reelection does.
Mr. Rodriguez: Well, that's different.
Mr. Dawkins: OK.
Mayor Saurez: OK, what is the motion, to defer?
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Mr. Plummer: Yes, we have no choice.
Mrs. Kennedy: Yes.
Mayor Suarez: Until May 14th, moved and seconded. Any discussion? Call the
- roll.
Mr. Dawkins: Sergio, you will be here the 14th?
Mr. Rodriguez: Yes, sir.
Mr. Plummer: If he is not in Taiwan.
- Mrs. Kennedy: Are you going?
Mr. Rodriguez: Is that a hint?
Mr. Plummer: We might send him there.
THEREUPON, the City Commission on motion duly
made by Commissioner Dawkins and seconded by
Commissioner Plummer, deferred consideration of
the above matter to May 14th by the following
vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
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32. APPROVE CENTRUST TOWER LIGHTING STRUCTURE (See label #62)
Mayor Suarez: Madam City Attorney, do you need us to approve a resolution on
the Centrust Lighting Structure?
Mr. Plummer: I've got a problem with Centrust Towers. They are using City
streets and they are not proposing to pay us a dime. No way!
Mrs. Dougherty: We can only charge a reasonable permit fee.
Mr. Plummer: We don't charge them anything. Let them volunteer to fix up a
park, or make a day care center, or something.
Mrs. Kennedy: Day care center.
Mr. Dawkins: While you are all getting all these day care centers, don't
forget about my parks.
Mr. Plummer: Fine.
Mr. Dawkins: I mean, you are all getting a whole lot of places to put
children, but you don't want no place for us to play!
Mrs. Kennedy: Yes, but...
Mr. Richard Weiss: Yes.
Mr. Dawkins: Every time I look up we are Rektine. wh.sr wat- +hp* biae-lr
olive trees?
Mr. Plummer: White olives.
80 April 9, 1987
Mr. Dawkins: Now all we are getting is, everybody comes up, "Don't forget day
care." Well, don't forget about the parks and recreation.
Mayor Suarez: Counselor.
Mr. Plummer: Tell them to come make a proffer, something that they would like
to do for this City in return.
Mr. Richard Weiss: My name is Richard Weiss...
Mayor Suarez: I'm not giving you any arguments, but we haven't been able
to...
Mrs. Kennedy: Day care?
Mr. Plummer: A new City Hall...
Mayor Suarez:... get the principal newspaper of the City to pay for the use of
the sidewalks, maybe we can get Centrust, I don't know. Go ahead.
Mr. Weiss: We originally came in and we leased the property from the County.
What this does is... we are not using any City property. It extends about
four feet, it encroaches onto the street about 30 feet in the air. Centrust
Towers is really a beautiful thing for the City, and I really think it is a
public benefit, this lighting tower.
Mr. Plummer: Gorgeous. To Centrust.
Mr. Weiss: No, I think it is a benefit to the whole City, Commissioner.
Mr. Plummer: I agree with you, but here again...
Mr. Weiss: And to ask to...
Mr. Plummer: the Telephone Company pays us a franchise fee to use City
property. Electric Company pays us a fee to use public property. I am not
trying to set a fee. I think in the interest of good spirited public feeling,
that you need to come back and tell us what you will voluntarily do for the
City.
Mr. Weiss: OK, can I come back this afternoon, Commissioner?
Mr. Plummer: I will do you one better. I pass it subject to leaving it to
the discretion of the Manager to accept a volunteer gift from Centrust in
adequate proportion to that which you are receiving. I so move.
Mr. Weiss: That's fine, thank you.
Mr. Plummer: And if doesn't get what he is supposed to, we will beat him.
Mayor Suarez: But, you cannot provide lighting for his house.
Mr. Weiss: We are going to... for the Manager's house or the Commissioner's
house.
Mr. Plummer: No, I got my own, I don't need you.
Mr. Dawkins: J.L.'s house.
Mayor Suarez: It is not totally at his discretion. Iti is supposed to be
within certain parameters.
Mr. Dawkins: Well, let's go put the Mona Lisa in front of J.L.'s house.
Mr. Weiss: We are going to put his picture on the tower.
Mayor Suarez: No, wait a minute, I take back the whole thing. We are not
going to approve this thing. Can you +naQe that — a11 over the City?
Mr. Plummer: If it In in my window, it is going to be Playboy, not me.
Mayor Suarez: Call the roll.
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The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 87-333
A RESOLUTION APPROVING AND ACCEPTING A REVOCABLE
PERMIT AND COVENANT PERTAINING TO A LIGHTING STRUCTURE
TO BE ERECTED ENCROACHING INTO THE RIGHT-OF-WAY ON THE
WESTERLY SIDE OF SOUTHEAST 2ND AVENUE (CENTRUST TOWER)
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Kennedy, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Manager, would you report back what you got in behalf of the
City from that great benefactor, Centrust?
33. FIRST READING ORDINANCE: ESTABLISH NEW FUND "RECREATION PROGRAMS FOR THE
MENTALLY RETARDED - CONSOLIDATED" AND APPROPRIATE FUNDS FOR SAME.
Mayor Suarez: Item 37.
Mr. Plummer: Item 37, move it.
Mr. Dawkins: Second. Who... Mr. Howard.
Mr. Odio: Kevin Smith
Mr. Dawkins: What program, I mean, this is the same recreation... mentally
retarded?
Mr. Odio: This is the mentally retarded.
Recreation under Kevin Smith.
Mr. Dawkins: No further questions.
Mr. Odio: They are doing a great job on that.
Mayor Suarez: Accept the motion?
Mr. Dawkins: Yes.
The Department of Parks and
Mayor Suarez: Moved, seconded. Read the ordinance. I,sea Kevin Smith is
here. I just want to congratulate you once again for this fantastic program
the City runs. We have got all kinds of letters and phone calls from people
have benefited from these programs and how important it is to them and these
are some of the most needy people, not necessarily in the financial sense,
but in the sense of services from anyone, including the City. Call the roll.
82 April 9, 1987
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN ORDINANCE ESTABLISHING A NEW SPECIAL REVENUE FUND
ENTITLED: "RECREATION PROGRAMS FOR THE MENTALLY
RETARDED - CONSOLIDATED", AND APPROPRIATING FUNDS FOR
THE OPERATION OF SAME IN THE AMOUNT OF $324,310,
CONSISTING OF $225,803 IN FEDERAL AND STATE FUNDS TO
BE RECEIVED FROM THE STATE OF FLORIDA, DEPARTMENT OF
HEALTH AND REHABILITATIVE SERVICES; $45,000 FROM
FISCAL YEAR 1986-87 SPECIAL PROGRAMS AND ACCOUNTS,
MATCHING FUNDS FOR GRANTS; AND $53,507 FROM THE
CARRYOVER FUND BALANCE FROM THE RECREATION PROGRAMS
COVERING FISCAL YEARS 1983 THROUGH 1986; AUTHORIZING
THE CITY MANAGER TO ACCEPT THE GRANT AWARD AND TO
ENTER INTO THE NECESSARY CONTRACT(S) AND/OR
AGREEMENT(S), IN A FORM ACCEPTABLE TO THE CITY
ATTORNEY, FOR THE ACCEPTANCE OF THE GRANT; CONTAINING
A REPEALER PROVISION AND A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.
Was introduced by Commissioner Plummer and seconded by Commissioner
Dawkins and was passed on its first reading by title by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and
announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commission and
to the public.
Mayor Suarez: It was a beautiful sight, the other day, Kevin, before you
leave to see... and Al Bobby driving... I don't know Bobby's last name, but
start driving one of those vans and he had the biggest smile on his face and
all the people in the van were obviously also enjoying themselves and
benefiting greatly from this program, but the smile on his face was worth a
million dollars to us in government funds to do something for handicapped
people.
34. FIRST READING ORDINANCE: INCREASE APPROPRIATIONS FOR "CURTIS PARKS
IMPROVEMENTS" AND "VIRGINIA KEY PARK DEVELOPMENT"
Mr. Plummer: Joe moves agenda item 38, and I second it.
Mr. Odio: Moved what? OK.
Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded.
Mr. Dawkins: Under further discussion.
Mr. Carollo: 38?
Mr. Dawkins: Yes. We allowed the Sailing Club to just totally destroy, in my
opinion, Kennedy Park. When they leave, who is responsible for restoring
Kennedy Park back like it was before we allowed the Sailing Club to go in
there?
Mr. Carollo: Dave Kennedy.
Mrs. Kennedy: Second. (LAUGHTER) Just joking. Scratch it from the record.
Mr. Odio: No, we own that facility. I hope that it will be kept as it is,
Commissioner, for sailing. We own the facility and it should be kept that way
for sailing, they are getting very good feedback on...
83 April 9, 1987
Mr. Dawkins: Yes, but we took one/third of a park that people were using...
Mr. Odio: That park was...
Mr. Dawkins:... fenced it off, put in an asphalt road and now we are going to
leave that there?
Mr. Odio: Well, they have to use it every year now.
Mr. Plummer: They are not going to be evacuated. Miller, that is a year-
round operation, headed toward the Olympic games.
Mayor Suarez: How many years is their lease? How many years is our agreement
with them?
Mr. Plummer: Our lease? I think it was on a year to year basis, but that is
to be remaining as a training facility.
Mayor Suarez: Up to the Commission's discretions.
Mr. Odio: Commissioner, I use that park quite a lot myself, and that portion
of the park was not used.
Mr. Dawkins: Go ahead.
Mayor Suarez: There is a problem, Walter, as long as the Commissioner brought
that other issue up, the people who were back there with concessions for
renting boats, are complaining that they are being not allowed to put their
signs up front and then otherwise sort of being moved out by the Olympic
training center.
Mr. Plummer: Well, but there is a big difference, Mr. Mayor. The people that
are back there on concessions are private for profit companies and this
sailing thing is nonprofit and there is a big difference between the two.
Mayor Suarez: It is nonprofit, but I mean, there are people using it who...
as important as their use is to the City and all that, it is very important to
them too, and I don't know what the problem would be with their having their
signs up front just like the other organizations.
Mr. Walter Golby: I think based on the type of park that it is, we should
come up with some type of sign that would mention their name, and list all of
the names of those people that are in that particular park.
Mayor Suarez: Yes, just don't, you know, don't squeeze out the little guys
because the big boys move in, even if they are nonprofit big boys in this
case.
Mr. Golby: But I think we should make the signs so it identifies the park.
Mr. Dawkins: Well, it is nobody's responsibility but mine, but I definitely
did not know that this was a permanent facility when I voted for it.
Mayor Suarez: As long as we want it, we cancel it any year!
Mr. Dawkins: Had I known it, I would not have voted for it.
Mr. Odio: Commissioner, for as long as you want it.
Mr. Dawkins: I don't care what it is for, I said, had I know... OK?... I
would not have voted for it.
Mr. Odio: OK, but, Commissioner Dawkins, really, we are getting a lot of
publicity, nationwide.
Mayor Suarez: He knows all that.
mr. riummer: Yes, but speaking to his issue, OK, you don't have to sell the
commercial. Miller, I want you to understand, this is on a one year renewable
option every year, and if at any time this Commission decides that that is not
producing what it should for the City, this Commission by three votes can
revoke that permit.
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Mr. Dawkins: Yes, but every time I go by there, J.L., I constantly see more
construction, OK?
Mr. Plummer: No, it is over.
Mr. Dawkins: All right now, the other day they put little half telephone
poles along the road, where you can't run off the road, now, and every time I
look, they are doing something and at the end of the year, they are going to
say, "Well Jesus Christ, we have got $500,000 invested!" We say, OK, let them
go another year.
Mayor Suarez: They don't control that, do they, all the way out to the
parkway, with the little posts that he is talking about I mean, I hope we
don't let them start controlling the park and the streets and everything else.
Mr. Carollo: Well, what I hear is, that Stuart Sorg wants to make it into a
submarine base for the training of seals.
Mr. Dawkins: He's got my vote.
Mr. Plummer: I'll tell you, it would be a damn good place for the hydrofoil.
Mayor Suarez: OK, we got a motion and a second. Any further discussion?
Call the roll on 38. Now read the ordinance.
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTION 1 OF ORDINANCE NUMBER
10187, ADOPTED DECEMBER 11, 1986, THE CAPITAL
APPROPRIATIONS IMPROVEMENTS ORDINANCE AS AMENDED BY
INCREASING THE APPROPRIATIONS FOR TWO PROJECTS
ENTITLED CURTIS PARK IMPROVEMENTS AND VIRGINIA KEY
PARK AND DEVELOPMENT IN THE AMOUNT OF $10,000 AND
$66,800 RESPECTIVELY FROM THE FUNDS OF VIRGINIA KEY
LANDFILL SALES; FURTHER INCREASING THE APPROPRIATIONS
FOR TWO PROJECTS ENTITLED KENNEDY PARK IMPROVEMENTS
AND MIAMI RIVERWALK - PHASE II, IN THE AMOUNT OF
$3,000 AND $10,000, RESPECTIVELY, FROM THE 1972 PARKS
AND RECREATION GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND FUNDS;
CONTAINING A REPEALER PROVISION AND A SEVERABILITY
CLAUSE.
Was introduced by Commissioner Carollo and seconded by Commissioner
Plummer and was passed on its first reading by title by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and
announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commission and
to the public.
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35. FIRST READING ORDINANCE: PROVIDE STAGGERED TERMS FOR MEMBERS OF THE
MIAMI SPORTS AND EXHIBITION AUTHORITY.
Mr. Carollo: OK, 39...
Mayor Suarez: This is the staggered terms for the Miami Sports and Exhibition
Authority.
Mr. Carollo: OK, let's see who gets the "X" this time.
Mayor Suarez: I know who is not going to have the styrofoam cup, I can tell
you that)
Mr. Plummer: I move the "X" ordinancel (LAUGHTER) I move item 39.
Mayor Suarez: So moved.
Mrs. Kennedy: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Seconded. Any discussion? Call the roll.
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SUBSECTION (C) OF SECTION 52.6-3
OF THE CODE OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA, AS AMENDED,
BY PROVIDING STAGGERED TERMS OF OFFICE FOR THE VOTING
MEMBERS OF THE MIAMI SPORTS AND EXHIBITION AUTHORITY;
CONTAINING A REPEALER PROVISION AND A SEVERABILITY
CLAUSE.
Was introduced by Commissioner Plummer and seconded by Commissioner
Kennedy and was passed on its first reading by title by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and
announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commission and
to the public.
36. APPOINT FAUSTO DIAZ OLIVER TO THE SPORTS AND EXHIBITION AUTHORITY.
Mr. Carollo: Excuse me, I have one additional...
Mayor Suarez: Commissioner.
Mr. Carollo:... member to... the name to give for one of my two appointees to
the Sports Authority and I would like to name Fausto Diaz Oliver.
Mayor Suarez: So moved.
Mr. Plummer: Second.
....,.,. _....moo..: Seconded. Any discussion, call the roll.
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The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Carollo, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 87-334
A RESOLUTION APPOINTING A CERTAIN INDIVIDUAL TO SERVE
AS A MEMBER OF THE MIAMI SPORTS AND EXHIBITION
AUTHORITY.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
NOTE FOR THE RECORD: Item 40 was deferred to the afternoon.
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37. PERMIT DRIVE-IN FACILITY FOR CITICORP SAVINGS ON 1600 S.W. 22 STREET.
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Mr. Plummer: Item 41 we could do in a hurry, Mr. Mayor. 41 is the item that
I asked to be deferred.
Mayor Suarez: The drive-in facility.
Mr. Plummer: They have come forth and have taken out the automatic teller,
which does make it full compliance. I so move item 41.
Mrs. Kennedy: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Doesn't that have companion items too, 42 and 43?
Mr. Plummer: Yes.
Mayor Suarez: Great, we can do those three. Moving 41, seconded. Any
discussion on 41? Call the roll on 41.
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87 April 9, 1987
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 87-335
A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE INSTALLATION OF DRIVE-IN
FACILITIES AT A FINANCIAL INSTITUTION LOCATED AT 1600
SOUTHWEST 22ND STREET (CORAL WAY), MIAMI, FLORIDA,
MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED HEREIN, AS PER PLANS ON
FILE; ZONED CR-2/7 COMMERCIAL RESIDENTIAL (COMMUNITY).
THIS SPECIAL EXCEPTION IS FILED IN CONJUNCTION WITH
SPECIAL EXCEPTIONS FOR A REDUCTION IN THE NUMBER OF
RESERVOIR SPACES FOR A DRIVE-IN FACILITY, AND A
REDUCTION OF THE TRANSITIONAL AREA WHERE A COMMERCIAL
RESIDENTIAL LOT ADJOINS AN RS-2 DISTRICT. THIS
SPECIAL EXCEPTION IS ALSO SUBJECT TO A TIME LIMITATION
OF TWELVE MONTHS IN WHICH A BUILDING PERMIT MUST BE
OBTAINED.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Kennedy, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
38. PERMIT A REDUCTION FROM 10 TO 1 RESERVOIR SPACE FOR I OF 3 DRIVE-IN
TELLERS FOR CITICORP SAVINGS ON 1600 S.W. 22 STREET.
Mr. Plummer: I move agenda item 42.
Mrs. Kennedy: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded. Any discussion? Call the roll on 42.
Mr. Dawkins: 42?
Mr. Plummer: Yes, 41, 42 and 43 are all companion.
Mr. Dawkins: Recommended by the Commission, I mean by the...
Mr. Plummer: It was the item I asked to be pulled and it has been satisfied.
Mr. Dawkins: Yes, but was this recommended by staff?
Mr. Plummer: Yes.
Mr. Olmedillo: The recommendation was for denial from staff, sir, with
reduction of space, but...
Mr. Dawkins: Staff moved to deny, right?
Mr. Olmedillo:... the applicant has removed a third window.
Ms. Debby Orshefsky: We're withdrawing.
Mr. Dawkins: And so now you are recommending approval?
Mr. Olmedillo: Yes, sir.
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Mr. Plummer: Right. Call the roll on 42.
Mayor Suarez: Item 42, call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 87-336
A RESOLUTION AFFIRMING THE DECISION OF THE ZONING
BOARD AND THEREBY GRANTING THE SPECIAL EXCEPTION AS
LISTED IN ORDINANCE NO. 9500, AS AMENDED, THE ZONING
ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, ARTICLE 20, SECTION
2031, SUBSECTION 2031.2, TO PERMIT A REDUCTION OF THE
NUMBER OF RESERVOIR SPACES FROM A REQUIRED MINIMUM OF
TEN TO ONE RESERVOIR SPACE FOR ONE OF THREE DRIVE-IN
TELLERS FOR THE PROPOSED DRIVE-IN FACILITIES FOR THE
CITICORP SAVINGS LOCATED AT APPROXIMATELY 1600
SOUTHWEST 22 STREET (A.K.A. CORAL WAY), MIAMI,
FLORIDA, MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED HEREIN, AS PER
PLANS ON FILE, SUBJECT TO AUTOMATIC TELLER MACHINE USE
ONLY FOR NORTHERLY -MOST TELLER; ZONED CR-2/7
COMMERCIAL -RESIDENTIAL (COMMUNITY). THIS SPECIAL
EXCEPTION WAS FILED IN CONJUNCTION WITH SPECIAL
EXCEPTION PETITIONS TO PERMIT A DRIVE-IN FACILITY, AND
A REDUCTION IN WIDTH OF THE TRANSITIONAL AREA WHERE A
COMMERCIAL RESIDENTIAL LOT ADJOINS AN RG-1 DISTRICT,
WITH A TIME LIMITATION OF TWELVE 0 2) MONTHS IN WHICH
A BUILDING PERMIT MUST BE OBTAINED.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Kennedy, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: Nome.
ABSENT: None.
NOTE FOR THE RECORD: R-87-336 was unnecessarily passed since applicant had
withdrawn said item.
39. PERMIT DRIVE-IN TELLER FACILITY FOR CITICORP SAVINGS WITH REDUCTION OF
THE 50' TRANSITIONAL AREA TO A 10' LANDSCAPED AREA AT 1600 S.W. 22 ST.
Mayor Suarez: Did you want to address item 41?
Mr. Plummer: I will take care of her in a minute. I move Item 43.
Mrs. Kennedy: Second.
Mayor Suarez: That is a heck of a promise, or a threat or something, I don't
know!
Mr. Plummer: No, because they have already acquiesced to it.
Mayor Suarez: Item 43 moved, seconded, call the roll on 43.
Mr. Dawkins: Did staff recommend approval?
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Ms. Martha Buss: On 43, I wanted to speak on a moment.
Mayor Suarez: OK, before we call the roll, go ahead, Ma'am.
Ms. Martha Buss: Yes, my name is Martha Buss, as you know, and I live next to
the bank. Now, I am in favor of the 20 foot transitional area, and I am
opposed to the 10 foot.
Mr. Plummer: OK, Mr. Mayor, let me tell you what I felt was the area of
compromise on that particular item. Her concern is the area that she lives
next door, and that the noise was bothering her and the wall. The applicant
has agreed to, number one, a seven foot wall. Number two, that it will be
masonry or stuccoed and painted on both sides. Number three, there will be
more than adequate landscaping and I think that that is a good... oh, and the
other thing is, that they have instructed their gardener not to cut the grass
before 8:00 a.m., or whatever... 10:00 a.m. ...
Ms. Buss: OK, now, Mr. Plummer, that is fine, now let me just interrupt. The
main thing is, that 20 foot transitional area from my house to the wherever
they are going to throw in that line of traffic. The others have been all
really obsolete. The other is minute. We are going for the big one now, the
20 foot transitional area is what you have been recommended for. The Zoning
Board or Planning Board... my terms are not that astute, but they went on the
10 foot. Then you came up with the idea of the 20 foot, which suits me fine
and which is great because if they ever reduce that 10 foot, which they so-
called are going to put in, I am sitting right next to a line of traffic.
Now, 20 feet gives me a very good variance, not just for the noise, but as
condition to my privacy, or whatever, and I would like very much for you to
pass, please, if you can, for that 20 foot transitional area, for my benefit.
They can work around another way of doing business. It is a savings bank and
it is not that super in the fact of the way in which they do business. Their
inside business is not carried on very businesslike and to put in for two
lines of traffic, it is a facility that is a neighborhood facility. We
already have Southeast Bank and God knows how many other banks in the same
facility and this is a savings corporation. So, these do not go in for the
real big items. The drive-in facilities are really not needed at this
particular time. We need someone to get in the bank and give service in the
office as well, so I am really for the 20 foot variance or transitional area -
I believe that is correct for me.
Mr. Plummer: Well, let me say in the area of compromise, when it was brought
to me, if you give the 20 foot, you then eliminate not only...
Ms. Buss: Well, that is not my problem.
Mr. Plummer: No, I am well aware, but I built in the protections with the
covenant they will be giving of satisfying your needs as to the noise, to the
visual problem, by a seven foot wall stuccoed on both sides and painted on
both sides, heavy landscaping on their side, which would in fact, knock down
the noise. The problem is, if they go to a 20 foot setback, they then would
be eliminating another lane, reducing...
Ms. Buss: They have two lanes now and they wanted to go in for the automatic
teller. Now, you are telling me that they are giving me something. They are
not giving me a darn thing! They are not giving me one darn thing.
Mr. Plummer: My dear, at the last meeting...
Ms. Buss: I am asking for the 20 that you recommended in the first thing...
notice, or whatever the heck this agenda, whatever this damn thing is.
Mr. Plummer: This darn thing, at the time, without giving up the third lane,
was my area of compromise to the 20 foot. They have given up the third lane,
and are not asking for it, and those areas which you brought to this
Commission attention were addressed and satisfied. Now, you know, I can't go
back and completely, continuously browbeat these people, saying, "OK, you give
up a lane, but you also have got to do this over here too."
Ms. Buss: But, it was in your agenda of the second porLiou Lu Su tur Lite
transitional lane. I brought up my other little problems, which was really, I
say, minute, but you had already...
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Mr. Plummer: Well, I brought up the problems, Ma'am, that you addressed
before this rommisrfon.
Ms. Buss: All right, but you, as a City Commissioner, had already recommended
that I have a 20 foot transitional area. Now, they are coming and pounding on
your door, saying, "Look, this is what we are giving up." They are not giving
up a darn thing!... not one darn thing!
Mr. Plummer: They came and beat on my door...
Ms. Buss: They need two lanes. They don't need... I don't care what they
came and beat on.
Mayor Suarez: Now, we can't send them to the Middle East to negotiate on
behalf of the City. Obviously didn't get everything resolved and...
Mr. Plummer: They can't come and beat on my door and want three lanes without
the 20 feet is what I said. Now, they have given up that...
Ms. Buss: You didn't say that the first time!
Mr. Plummer: Ma'am, when you go in and they gave up a third lane, in lieu of
20 to 10 feet, is what I am saying was the area of compromise, and that is
what we set out to do.
Mr. Carollo: Why don't you give them the third lane and give them 20 feet?
Mr. Plummer: They can't do it, you don't have the...
Ms. Buss: Yes, they can do it if they close off the back door, they don't
need it anyway, they got plenty of space over there.
Mayor Suarez: How about that, Debbie?
Ms. Debbie Orshefsky: May I respond to that? For the record, my name is
Debbie Orshefsky, I am an attorney with offices at 1401 Brickell Avenue. I
appreciate the...
Ms. Buss: Go down and take a look.
Mayor Suarez: Wait, please.
Ms. Orshefsky:... support Commissioner Plummer has been indicating in
discussions we have had in terms of how to design around one critical problem
here. We had originally proposed three lanes, one being an automatic teller
machine. This lane has only one stacking space. That was a critical problem.
We have got the 10 foot buffer there. We agreed to eliminate this so that
there is no... so now, both of the lanes that are existing provide full ten
space parking. If we were to expand this landscape area, we then encroach
into the drive area here with this lane, and again, would not be able to meet
the stacking requirements. We have proposed to put in very heavily landscaped
area through here, it is ten feet, with a seven foot wall. We will finish it
as Commissioner Plummer has indicated. We have taken measures to take care of
some of the minor items that Mrs. Buss had indicated and think that we have
worked out a plan that will be acceptable to the bank and to the community.
Mr. Carollo: Well, can you give them a 15 foot setback?
Ms. Orshefsky: Let me...
Ms. Buss: You're not going to encroach on any lane of traffic because you've
got two going this way and they can't be coming around that way anymore
because you're going to go this way. So you're not encroaching on any
traffic, it got to go this way. You can't come around the back like you used
to anymore on account of these lanes will be going this way and you've got
areas on either side that you can work and park in area. And this thing has
not been drawn up correctly.
Mr. Plummer: I thought I'd worked out a compromise. I tried. I still think
its fair.
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Ms. Orshefsky: We will endeavor to maximize the landscaped area but as an
architectural planned matter, right now the only way to get these widths the
minimum that they are ... We're dealing with an existing bank which is the
constraining factor here, is to keep this at 10 feet which was the maximum -
that we could design into it at that time. Anything else is going to encroach
further into, and destroy our ability to have stacking lanes.
Mayor Suarez: Mr. Vice -Mayor, what is your recommendation after extensive
negotiations?
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, with the covenants which they will give to the City,
I felt that it was a fair compromise. I went out to the facility, I looked at
it ...
Ms. Buss: You went yesterday with Ms. Orshefsky, why didn't you include me?
Mayor Suarez: Wait, wait, wait, wait. You're not Vice -Mayor yet.
Mr. Plummer: No, I did not go with her, mam.
Ms. Buss: I had some meeting with her yesterday so I was informed.
Mr. Plummer: No mam.
Mayor Suarez: Please ...
Mr. Plummer: Didn't even get to talk to her. I called her but I didn't get
to talk to her.
Ms. Buss: Well, she informed me
Mr. Plummer: I say ... Mr. Mayor, I felt, I still feel that we have
addressed the concerns of the neighbor. I feel that it's a fair compromise
the bank has given and I would move item 43. It's up to the commission. —
Ms. Orshefsky: May I suggest something? We have withdrawn Item 42. I know
you took action on it. That was the request to reduce the number of parking,
ah, stacking lanes. You may want to correct it by withdrawing that.
Mayor Suarez: Let the record reflect that that was an unnecessary vote. I -
don't know; we have to take it back? I guess not. Could we have a motion on
Item 43?
Ms. Hirai: Yes, we have a motion, Mr. Mayor.
Ms. Buss: You can give 15 feet.
Ms. Hirai: We have a motion.
Mayor Suarez: We have a motion but we don't have a second yet.
Ms. Hirai: Commissioner Kennedy had seconded.
Mayor Suarez: Okay, we have a motion and a second. Any further discussion?
Call the roll.
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The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 87-337
A RESOLUTION AFFIRMING THE DECISION OF THE ZONING BOARD TO
GRANT A SPECIAL EXCEPTION AS LISTED IN ORDINANCE NO. 9500,
AS AMENDED, THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MIAMI,
SCHEDULE OF DISTRICT REGULATIONS, PAGE 4 OF 6, CR
COMMERCIAL -RESIDENTIAL, TRANSITIONAL USES, STRUCTURES AND
REQUIREMENTS, TO PERMIT CONSTRUCTION OF PROPOSED DRIVE-IN
FACILITIES FOR THE CITICORP SAVINGS LOCATED AT
APPROXIMATELY 1600 SOUTHWEST 22 STREET (A/K/A CORAL WAY),
MIAMI, FLORIDA, MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED HEREIN, AS PER
PLANS ON FILE, WITH A REDUCTION OF THE 50' TRANSITIONAL
AREA TO A 10' LANDSCAPED AREA; ZONED CR-2/7 COMMERCIAL -
RESIDENTIAL (COMMUNITY). THIS SPECIAL EXCEPTION WAS FILED
IN CONJUNCTION WITH SPECIAL EXCEPTIONS TO PERMIT A DRIVE-
IN FACILITY, AND A REDUCTION IN THE NUMBER OF RESERVOIR
SPACES FOR A DRIVE-IN FACILITY. THIS SPECIAL EXCEPTION IS
ALSO SUBJECT TO A TIME LIMITATION OF TWELVE MONTHS IN
WHICH A BUILDING PERMIT MUST BE OBTAINED.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here
and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Kennedy, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
ABSENT: None.
DURING ROLL CALL: The following comments were made.
Mr. Dawkins: Ms. Kennedy.
Mr. Plummer: This is on the bank.
Ms. Kennedy: What, what? I'm sorry, what is the motion?
Mr. Plummer: On the bank.
Ms. Kennedy: Yes, I know its on the bank, I heard ...
Mr. Plummer: Oh, 43. The motion is to approve. Subject to the conditions
that they have agreed to give a covenant on.
Mayor Suarez: Yes. Do we need to take back a vote on 42 formally or can you
just reflect in the record that we didn't need to take a vote on 42? It had
been withdrawn.
Ms. Orshefsky: Thank you very much.
Mayor Suarez: Come back at 2:30 p.m.
THEREUPON THE CITY COMMISSION WENT INTO RECESS AT
12:05 P.M. AND RECONVENED AT 2:40 P.M., WITH
COMMISSIONER CAROLLO ABSENT.
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40. DISCONTINUE CONTRACT WITH MIAMI-DADE TRADE AND TOURISM COMMISSION, INC. -
NO FURTHER FUNDING
Mayor Suarez: Are we okay on 44? Item 44. Want to try to go through these
quickly so we can get to ah ...
Mr. Odio: This is to ratify the discontinuance of contractual relations with
Miami -Dade Trade and Tourism Commission and reconfirming our position of no
funding. We entered into an agreement with Miami -Dade which authorized
funding. Agreement expired October 31, 1986. The City had been served notice
of levy by IRS for 46,498.03 of delinquent payroll taxes. We would like to,
at this time, just not support this organization any longer and, in fact,
should abolish it completely. _
Mayor Suarez: Is this one that we have been approving every three months and
continuing and so on?
Mr. Odio: That is correct, Mr. Mayor. I checked with the City Attorney and
she concurred with the City ...
Mr. Plummer: My understanding, at the last meeting, if I'm not correct, we
gave them three months more funding to wind down. Is that correct?
Mayor Suarez: And that was going to be the last three months.
Mr. Plummer: Yeah, so this is the end of it and all you're doing is
technically and legally drawing it, Amen, to a close. I so move.
Mr. Dawkins: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded.
Mr. Dawkins: Under discussion. You have something to say Henry?
Mayor Suarez: Henry.
Henry -----. I support the resolution that has been made. The only thing I
would like to have the public record reflect is that if there are any other
administrative matters or financial matters that need to be resolved, I make
myself available to help resolve any of those.
Mr. Plummer: Well, the question is, I guess, is where is the money of the
sixty-four hundred and eighty dollars going to go?
Henry: The sixty-four hundred odd dollars in tax liens are liens that were
part of - that were placed against the agency in '83, 184, and parts of 185.
And a lot of that is in penalties and in interest ...
Mr. Plummer: Huh? No, well somebody is going to go to jail. Now you can't
spend money that you don't have and, obviously, somebody, in the ultimate, is
going to have to be responsible and it's not the City.
Henry: Well, at the last board meeting, Commissioner Plummer, the members of
the board of Miami -Dade Trade and Tourism Commission agreed to meet with the
Internal Revenue Agent to determine the exact amount that's owed and make
arrangements to honor that obligation.
Mr. Plummer: In other words, the board is going to find a way to honor the
obligation.
Henry: That's right. The Chairman of the Board, Al Dotson and those, we met,
I think it was two weeks ago and we came to a conclusion that that would be
the best way to resolve it.
Mr. Plummer: wpl''.. ° • . • : , ' - ' 10 ' h''pe that you would follow up
because I don't think that there is any obligation whatsoever on behalf of the
City to pay it and, you know, I would hate to see somebody on that board go to
Jail, but somewhere along the line, the IRS is going to say, we don't care,
all we want is to be paid.
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Henry: The board ...
Mr. Odio: Excuse me, sir. I recommend that the creditors go after Miami -
Dade. They're responsible for the debts and any assets they might have, they
would take care of that, but not us.
Henry: The board was not asking ... The board was not requesting funds from
the City of Miami to pay the IRS obligation. They were dealing with that
directly themselves so that matter would be paid by the board and they would
come up with that money through whichever way they were saying.
Mr. Plummer: Okay, all I'm asking, I guess, Henry, is is, you know, I think
that you're dealing in an honorable board and all I would like to know, as a
Commissioner, is to be notified when that obligation, regardless of how, is
resolved.
Henry: That's one of the reasons, Commissioners Plummer, I saw fit to come
here this afternoon. Because of that. Thank you.
Mr. Plummer: I so move Item 44.
Mayor Suarez: So moved.
Mr. Dawkins: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Seconded. Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 87-338
A RESOLUTION RATIFYING THE DISCONTINUANCE OF CONTRACTUAL
RELATIONS BETWEEN THE CITY OF MIAMI ("CITY") AND MIAMI-
DADE TRADE & TOURISM COMMISSION, INC. ("MIAMI-DADE") AND
_ RECONFIRMING THE PREVIOUSLY STATED POSITION OF THE CITY
THAT NO FURTHER CITY FUNDING TO MIAMI-DADE BE CONSIDERED
BY VIRTUE OF THE CONTRACTUAL DEFAULTS OF MIAMI-DADE.
— (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here
and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Dawkins, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
— Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
41. MAINTAIN PRESENT FEE STRUCTURE FOR USE OF CITY DAY CARE FACILITIES; STUDY
POSSIBILITY OF PRIVATE SECTOR PARTICIPATION (See label•g29)
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Mayor Suarez: Item - oh, the child care centers - day care centers.
He. Kennedy: I have met with the representatives that we met earlier the
Coalition of Hispanic -American Women and the Dade County Commission on the
Status of Women, during lunch, and, Mr. Mayor, this is not a profit making
service. *•'- -- - '1. ' . ' . ••* cf Miami who are trying to make
an honest living and cannot afford private day care, so I'm going to move ...
Mayor Suarez: At the risk of losing momentum, I suggest you make it
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Ms. Kennedy: I'm going to move, that's right ... that we keep the rates as
they are.
Mr. Plummer: Well, I'll tell you what, you know, I'm going to go on record;
I'm going to vote for it. But, I want to tell you something, as far as I'm
concerned, the difference of one dollar I personally don't feel is that great
of difference. And I'm not going to sit here and, so called, take political
heat for one dollar. But, the difference of the recommendation is just that.
And I want to say to you that I think it is absolutely - absolutely - out of
question to pay $3,611 per child in the public sector when the private sector
is charging roughly $1,800. I think, in my estimation, unless somebody proves
me wrong and I will stand corrected if it is, in fact, the case, that we are
denying 180 children of day care because of the fact we're trying to do it in
house, rather than letting the private sector, who charges half, do the same.
I will vote for it, Rosario, with the proviso that we instruct the
administration at least to explore. To go out with an RFP, to look and see if
there is the possibility that those other children who can, in fact, be served
who've been waiting on a waiting list for years, will have that opportunity if
we can get it cheaper. Now, if that's attached to the resolution, I will be
happy to vote for it.
Ms. Kennedy: All right, but let me tell you that during lunch, we called
several centers; the rates are between $40-$45 and the registration fees range
from $25-$35 annually and they cannot handle over 45 kids. And let me tell
you, that you mentioned earlier that you had gone to Bayside and paid $3.50
for an ice cream. You and I can afford a $3.50 ice cream but for a lot of
mothers out there, a dollar a week is a heck of a lot of money to pay.
Mr. Plummer: Rosario, I have no question and no qualms with the fact that $35
a week, but we're not talking about $3500 a week. We're talking about closer
to $200 a week when you come up with $3,611; that's where my problem is. In
my estimation, we are denying at least 180 kids the right of day care. And I
think that is absolutely ludicrous. You know, if they were just going from
the fees, and that's what happens, when you do it in a private institution;
they don't get subsidy, they don't get food programs. They have to survive
and make a profit after that situation.
Mayor Suarez: The difference is like $30 a week.
Mr. Plummer: If it's $30 ... Mr. Mayor, all I'm saying is, I think if we
scrutinize and come to the bottom line, ...
Mayor Suarez: I'd like to see those comparisons myself before we ever ...
Mr. Plummer: I want to tell you there is no question in my mind that if the
private sector can do it for half, that we should be able to do it and afford
those other children.
Mayor Suarez: Or find out what other services are being given by this agency
that they're not - or whatever, God knows what it may be.
Mr. Plummer: Exactly.
Ms. Kennedy: But, the private sector is not going to put a day care in Lemon
City...
Mr. Dawkins: I think ...
Mr. Plummer: But you don't know that.
whether they will not.
Mr. Dawkins: I think that my ...
You don't know whether they will or
Mayor Suarez: Now we're going to hear what Nancy told the Commissioner.
Mr. Plummer: What did Nancy say? Let's get the wisdom.
"•� ' ' ^' wu :wissbd the most important issue of all
In that one dollar .may not be important to a person with a child, but it would
be very important if the mother had two or three children in the day care
center. And that dollar ...
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Mr. Plummer: Maybe we should address that.
Mr. Dawkins: Look, I'm with you ...
Mr. Plummer: Okay?
Ms. Kennedy: Okay.
Mr. Dawkins: The only thing that I'm concerned about which is, I will get
more research. With one individual, J.L., I have to agree with you in what I
have here. One mother makes $15,000 a year, one makes $19,000 - here's
another with $15,000, $15,000, $10,000, $15,000,$14,000, $11,000, $25,000 -
here's a parent with a child in there that makes $25,000 a year. Here's
another one with $12,000, $15,000, $14, $13, $12,000. To me, personally, one
dollar does not matter, but until we address all of the issues, ...
Mr. Plummer: And I think we need to.
Mr. Dawkins: I think that I'll have - I'll be voting with Rosario's motion,
until then we go back and ...
Mr. Plummer: I will vote with it. I will vote with the motion, one dollar is
not going to make or break this City.
Mr. Dawkins: But let's go back and restudy it.
Mr. Plummer: But I think if we can afford the opportunity to more children to
be provided with day care services, it behooves us to at least investigate.
Mr. Dawkins: Call the question.
Mayor Suarez: Okay. Please call the roll. Do we have a motion and a second,
Madam City Clerk?
Ms. Hirai: I have a motion by Commissioner Kennedy.
Mr. Dawkins: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Nancy Dawkins seconds it.
Ms. Kennedy: And, Mr. Manager, if you are going to investigate, make sure
that my office works very closely with it.
Mr. Odio: Can I get the last part of the motion, I know we state the rates
are the same.
Mr. Plummer: The last part of the motion is and tied to the motion that the
manager will go out with an RFP to try to find if we can get day care center
and provide service for more kids.
Mayor Suarez: For the ensuing year, that would be.
Mr. Odio: So we have to prepare a document and bring it back to you to
approve the RFP.
Mr. Plummer: Very definitely.
Mayor Suarez: It wouldn't be for this year, would it Commissioner?
Mr. Plummer: No - no, no, no. For the next year's budget.,
Ms. Kennedy: Let me also put on the record, I think it will be disaster if it
would eliminate a lot of jobs out there and I don't think it will work. But
we'll find out.
Mayor Suarez: We're not approving the RFP. It's really kind of an analysis
at this point.
Ms. Kennedy: Just make sure, Mr. Manager, that we work very closely with you.
Mr. Odlos Yes.
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Mr. Plummer: Very definitely. I would be disappointed if you didn't.
Mayor Suarez: I just want to see the comparisons. Call the roll.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Kennedy, who moved
its adoption:
MOTION NO. 87-339
A MOTION AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO
MAINTAIN PRESENT FEE STRUCTURE FOR USE OF CITY DAY CARE
FACILITIES; FURTHER INSTRUCTING THE ADMINISTRATION TO
CONSIDER THE POSSIBILITY OF SEEKING REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS
TO SEE IF THE PRIVATE SECTOR CAN PROVIDE MORE EFFICIENT
DAY CARE SERVICES WHICH COULD SERVE A GREATER NUMBER OF
CHILDREN THAN THE CITY PRESENTLY SERVES.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Dawkins, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Mayor Suarez: Items 47 and 48, by the way, for those of you that are waiting
on 49 have been withdrawn so ...
Mr. Odio: No, no, no, Commissioner - Mr. Mayor, I'm sorry, I'd like to ...
Mr. Plummer: Excuse me, excuse me.
Mayor Suarez: I'm wrong about that.
Mr. Plummer: Where is the head of day care?
Mr. Odio: Carmen, Carmen Evans.
Ms. Kennedy: Where's Carmen Evans?
Mayor Suarez: Forty-seven is back on, right?
Mr. Plummer: Mrs. Evans, are you aware of the policy of this commission in
reference to day care?
Ms. Carmen Evans: I think so.
Mr. Plummer: In reference to residency?
Ms. Evans: Well, Commissioner, I believe, don't quote me on this, but I
believe ...
Mr. Plummer: Excuse me, my question was very simple for a yes or no answer.
Ms. Evans: Yes.
Mr. Plummer: You know the policy?
Ms. Evans: Yes.
Mr. Plummer: Then I ask you, are there any children on that waiting list that
are residents of the City of Miami?
Ms. Evans: Oh yes, the majority of them are.
ar. riummer: Then, may I ask you when you tell me you have investigated in
reference to, and I'm calling this name, I don't know the people, Marcus
Cottingham, who lives at 1630 N. W. 133rd Street, whose parents make $19,000,
why they are on that day care center and a City resident is not?
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Ms. Evans= Well, Marcus ...
Mr. Plummer: I'm reading from your numbers.
Ms. Evans: Marcus is in the center because he came to us when he was 16
months old ...
Mr. Plummer: No, that's not the point.
Ms. Evans: His parents moved and they wanted to keep him at that center.
Mr. Plummer: That's not the point! I am sorry, there is a policy of this
commission ...
Mayor Suarez: Do you have a policy when the person is initially accepted
being a resident of the City and then moves?
Mr. Plummer: No, the policy is, Mr. Mayor, is that this day care center shall
be afforded to City residents first ...
Mayor Suarez: I understand, but I mean if the person ...
Mr. Plummer: Who are paying the bills.
Mayor Suarez: If the person moves initially accepted within the City limits
and then moves, that's the situation here apparently. Right?
Ms. Evans: Yes.
Mr. Plummer: I'm merely, unless this ...
Mayor Suarez: There's quite a few. We found ...
Ms. Evans: It's the situation in about four of those.
Mayor Suarez: Okay, we looked at it quickly and found a few names of people
who are not in the City.
Mr. Plummer: Yeah, and, you know when I looked through here ...
Mayor Suarez: You might want to check those out.
Mr. Plummer: and I see people who are making $48,000 a year, I find it very
difficult to understand how a dollar would make a difference.
Ms. Evans: But those are not the ones that we have increased the fee of a
dollar for it.
Mr. Plummer: I'm reading, I'm reading ...
Ms. Evans: If they're making 448,000, then their fee is going to be $65 a
week according to the proposed fee schedule.
Mr. Plummer: According to yours, the fee is $55.
Ms. Evans: You're looking at the current fee schedule. That's not the one
that's proposed.
Mayor Suarez: Yeah, they're going up $10.
Mr. Plummer: Did I not understand that basically this was for low income
people?
Ms. Evans: No. We serve everybody. The only stipulation is that they have
to be working or enrolled in school full time. We will accept anybody. We
have incomes up to $750000.
Mr. Plummer: Okay, I would like to once again know why the area of ...excuse
me, here's 430,000, $22,000, $25,000, $23,000, $3100000 $30,000, $28,000, ...
you know, I Just really - I hate to keep harping, that to a person making
$48,000, one dollar increase a week In a serious ...
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Ms. Evans: The one dollar increase is not fol people whu are making that. If
they're making $48,000, then under the proposed rate increase, we would ask
them to pay $65 per week.
Mr. Plummer: As opposed to what were they paying before?
Ms. Evans: As opposed to $55.
Mr. Plummer: $55 - ten dollars ...
Ms. Kennedy: $10.
Mr. Plummer: And $48,000 is a matter of how much a year?
Mayor Suarez: $520.
Mr. Plummer: No it's not. It's not a year. Okay? I think we got some
serious problems. I really do. But I do, unless this commission wants to
change their policy that these which are subsidized by City funds, first and
foremost go to City residents. I don't think there's any qualms about that.
Ms. Evans: I think there's seven that are not City residents.
Mr. Plummer: My dear, there is a policy
Ms. Evans: ... of the 180.
Mr. Plummer: That policy is in effect and, Mr. Manager, unless you are
designated by the commission to do different, you have to follow that policy.
And I don't think anybody has got qualms with that policy.
Mr. Al Howard: But we do have the policy. When we're registering the
children, the City of Miami residents have first choice. If we don't fill the
45 and there is a vacancy, then we have put that individual in. But 4 of the
7 lived in Miami and then moved ...
Mr. Plummer: Previously. That's fine. When they moved, they lost their
rank.
Mr. Howard: In respect to the children, we wanted to keep that continuity at
that age of staying in the same center so we allow that.
Mr. Plummer: Well, you know, that game can be played all day long. They did
that at Miami High for years to get the guys on the football team. Okay?
Ms. Evans: Commissioner Plummer - commissioner
Mr. Plummer: Is this true that one recipient
Mayor Suarez: What he's telling you is that that is a policy decision that
the commission has got to make and that It we understood it to mean that you
have to live in the City at all times, we ought to maybe revisit that at the
appropriate time.
Mr. Plummer: Here's a woman making $76,000 a year - $76,000 a year and she is
putting her child in a subsidized program. For shame.
Ms. Evans: I believe that in 1977 the Law Department statpd that because the
City received federal revenue sharing monies, that you cannot limit the
program only to city residents.
Mr. Plummer: No, absolutely not. Absolutely not. The County has their own
program. Let me tell you, when I sit here and I use your records, and you are
telling me that I, as a taxpayer in this City, am subsidizing a program for
day care when one of the parents, and I don't know any of them I don't think,
I'm sure I will because you will fill the chambers at the next meeting and I,
God bless you - In making $76,000 and I've got to subsidize her child.
Something is radically wrong. These are your numbers and if you'd like me to
quote for you, I'll be glad to come right to your numbers. These are papers
that were furnished by you to this commission ...
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Mr. Odio: I'm sorry, Mr. Commissioners, we are subsidizing the poor kids ...
Mr. Plummer: Sir, you are subsidizing the program. Every child in the
program is a recipient of some kind of subsidy. This person here, and I'm not
going to mention the name on the record. I'll show it to you privately if
you're not already aware. This person lives in the City, in the southwest
section - according to your records, makes $75,920 a year.
Mayor Suarez: We really should look at that also.
Mr. Plummer: Okay? And if this program of subsidy, federal subsidy, is
subsidizing that woman's child, I'm telling you there is something radically
wrong with this program.
Mayor Suarez: Particularly, when we keep coming up with figures for private
sector facilities that are less than these. That's what's the catch, right
here.
Mr. Odio: The problem is that the program was not set up to exclude
financial, I think it was designed for working ...
Mr. Plummer: This was set up to help mothers who had to go out and make a
living. This woman sure doesn't have a problem at $76,000 a year.
Mr. Howard: Well she is working because she wouldn't be eligible for that
program, but ...
Mr. Plummer: Then let her put her child where she can afford it.
Mr. Howard: Let me say this. We wanted to raise those people $10, which
would have been $65 more than they pay in any private center. It's because
she likes the center and the quality program.
Mr. Plummer: Oh ho, isn't that nice.
Mr. Howard: But she's not looking for a subsidy. The subsidy is only for the
people at the poverty level; the $14,000 and below.
Mr. Plummer: No sir, you are absolutely wrong. When she is paying $65 for
the children, she is part of the subsidy. Now, figure it out; how many week
do they go?
Mayor Suarez: Given the figures that we heard, it sounds like a subsidy.
Mr. Howard: Fifty.
Mr. Plummer: Fifty. Okay, multiply that by $55.
Mayor Suarez: Less than $3,000.
Mr. Plummer: Exactly, and she is getting subsidies in some way because it
cost us $3,611 per child.
Ms. Kennedy: No, no, no, no, no. The majority of the people who would be
affected are in the lower to middle income.
Mr. Plummer: Rosario, my dear friend, I want you to know I am not a big bad
monster trying to eliminate. I am a big bad monster who is sitting here
trying to say that people in the $20,000 and more a year income, don't need
public subsidy. I feel, and I legitimately feel, that you can have a day care
for a child in the neighborhood of $1,800. We are paying $3,600. We are
denying children of the right to have a damn good day care.
Mayor Suarez: I would strongly suggest ...
Mr. Dawkins: All we're saying is ...
Mr. Plummer: Something In wrong.
Mr. Dawkins: No, what's wrong is we have not allowed the center to become
self sufficient. Now if we're not - if the individuals who can pay will pay
then we can subsidize those who cannot pay. But we should not be subsidizing
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those who can pay and penalizing those who cannot pay. So now, if that lady,
as you said, John, who makes $75,000 a year, is desirous of having her child
in that wonderful marvelous center and she's willing to pay for it, then she
should be charged.
Mr. Plummer: Exactly.
Mr. Dawkins: That's all.
Ms. Kennedy: Now, let's pass it like this and then perhaps what we need to do
is ...
Mayor Suarez: We did.
Ms. Kennedy: ... raise the fees of those, I don't know what the cut line is,
$20,000 and up or $30,000 and up ...
Mr. Howard: We try to do it at the poverty level; $14,000 and below so we'll
look at $15,000 and above and put it on a scale to $75,000.
Mayor Suarez: I would strongly suggest you consider once again, for the next
fiscal year, an evaluation that includes a cap on salary to the extent that
you're allowed to by the programs which should receive the funding.
Mr. Plummer: Oh, I think that should be. I really feel that.
Mayor Suarez: Yeah, we did vote on the motion already.
Mr. Plummer: Hey, how, Al - I am not trying to do ...
Mr. Howard: I know what you're saying. What we'll do, anybody in $25,000 or
$30,000 and above when we do a little research, we'll put them above what it
costs the average child, the $3,000 or $3,600 per child for a year then it
will be above the subsidy.
Mayor Suarez: Al, don't try to resolve it now. We voted on this motion
already.
Mr. Plummer: Tell you what I think you got to weigh it with, Al. Okay? I
think that, you know, we are trying to provide for the needy, not the greedy.
Now, I think that anybody that is making more than $25,000 should not have
priority in our subsidized day care. Okay? Now, I'm not saying cut them off
completely, if you make above $25,000 you can't have your kids in. But I
think it is a matter of priority of who we're trying to help. And I think
first and foremost, we need to help the needy in this community. That's what
I feel.
Mr. Odio: Let me point out something to you, sir. That if we remove these
people that are above the $15,000-$20,000, they pay a lot of fees. Then you
would really have a deficit. Then the deficit you would be talking about
would be $500,000.
Mr. Plummer: They're going to go elsewhere, because it's cheaper. Well, I'll
tell you this, and I'll tell you this very quickly, anyone in that day care
that's making more than $25,000 a year, I got suspect of, I really do.
Mayor Suarez: That destroys the other argument, Cesar, if you say that if we
don't have the wealthier people, you can't subsidize, because then why don't
they just go out to the private sector? You can't argue that those people are
not going to be, you know, taken care of by private concerns because they
don't want to go into those neighborhoods or something. Obviously those
people can take their kids to a place like any of us.
Mr. Odio: No, I pay ...
Mayor Suarez: Anyhow, if it affects your funding, that would be a factor, but
so far you haven't shown us that it does. We're going to go ahead and take a
bite at 49 so that we can ...
Mr. Odio: Can we take 47, oh, oh ...
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42. SELECT BEAR STEARNS AS SENIOR UNDERWRITER FOR GENERAL OBLIGATION
REFUNDING BONDS
Mayor Suarez: In deference to the state representative, let's take a bite at
49. He's also chairman of the delegation. He's got to be someplace at 3:30
p.m. - take a plane, or whatever.
Mayor Suarez: Bond underwriters. Do we have an evaluation, Carlos?
Mr. Carlos Garcia: Yes, Mr. Mayor. The selection committee appointed by the
City Manager and reaffirmed by this commission has made a recommendation to
the Manager and through the Manager to you, they have recommended five firms
as the top five firms out of 22 proposals. The first one being Prudential
Bache with Metro Equities. Subsequent to selection, we understand that First
Equity will also be a part of that team. In second place, we have a tie
between Bear Stearns and Daniels & Bell and Shearson with Grigsby, Brantford
and AIBC. The next firm is First Boston and the last firm is Citicorp. We
would like to move this transaction as soon as possible while the market is
favorable to the City and we believe they have some significant savings there
to the citizens.
Mayor Suarez: This is a twenty four million dollar bond - refinancing.
Mr. Garcia: We are - right now we are looking - we are refinancing the bonds
that were sold in 1985 in the amount of thirty-three million dollars.
Possibly; we may be able to include bonds that were sold in 1983 as well
general obligation bonds. If there is some economical savings there, we'll
..
Mayor Suarez: Was that the face value of the bonds in 185? I thought the
figure was twenty-four.
Mr. Garcia: No sir, it was $33,000,000.
Mayor Suarez: Okay, does that complete the City's report?
Mr. Garcia: That's basically it, yes sir.
Mayor Suarez: Why five this time as opposed to three last time? Is that
because we asked you?
Mr. Plummer: We were told to.
Mr. Garcia: That is right.
Mr. Odio: We were told to bring back five, sir.
Mayor Suarez: Is that unusual to have a tie?
Mr. Garcia: It's not really unusual ...
Mayor Suarez: I mean, it came out in the scoring just by pure luck that it
came out the exact same, not rounded out or anything?
Mr. Garcia: Exactly the same. Pure luck, yes air. We had five members in
the selection and every member was able to vote for the five top firms and
when the votes were added up, we came up with a tie in second place.
Mayor Suarez: How many of the proponents or companies or bond companies wish
to be heard on this item? One, two, three, four - okay. Proceed, tell us
your name and company you're with and if you're being paid to - compensated
for your appearance here, you'll have to register with the City in case you
haven't done it.
! Mr. Jay Pina:
M Securities,
�1 Shearson ...
Commissioners, Mayor. No sir. My name is Jay Pins. I'm with
1390 Brickell Avenue. Initially we were in the proposal with
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Mayor Suarez: What's the name of the company?
Mr. Pina: M Securities. Initially we were in the proposal with Shearson
Lehman Bros. and apparently, from Mr. Garcia's statement, we were omitted from
the proposal.
Mr. Garcia: Their name was included on the cover of the proposal. The
information was not included in the proposal itself. We contacted Shearson to
get a clarification of that item. The clarification was never received. If
Shearson decides that they are part of the team, we don't have any problems
with including them on the team. If Shearson is selected.
Mr. Odio: You have to talk to Shearson. If they want to include you, that's
their prerogative.
Mr. Pina: From what I understand, there is an error there because we have
spoken to Shearson and they are concerned with the fact that we're in the
proposal with them.
Mayor Suarez: Well, here's a question. Now, in the evaluations did you
assume for evaluation purposes that M Securities was a junior partner or
junior manager, or whatever.
Mr. Garcia: No, we did not, sir. We had already three firms including that
particular proposal. We had Shearson and then we had a black firm and an
Hispanic firm as well, so we don't think ...
Mayor Suarez: Which were those, once again.
Mr. Garcia: In that case, the Hispanic firm was AIBC and Grigsby, Brantford
was the black firm. We don't think that by adding M Securities would have
really enhanced the proposal that much.
Mayor Suarez: Oh, I see, they already had a ...
Mr. Garcia: And as I said, you know, the information was not in the proposal,
it was just on the cover of the proposal. We didn't know if it was a mistake
and we did contact Shearson. There was no clarification on that.
Mr. Pina: Thank you.
Mr. Dawkins: I was out of the room - what's that? Say that again. I mean -
what's the complaint?
Mayor Suarez: M Securities did not end up being part of the package submitted
by Shearson, although they were mentioned on the cover but Shearson, according
to Carlos, and they came in what? Second place, tied?
Mr. Garcia: That is right, yes.
Mayor Suarez: ... has two other minority companies as associated with.
Mr. Dawkins: So what' the issue?
Mayor Suarez: Well, M Securities is complaining that they got left out of
consideration in effect.
Ms. Kennedy: Why weren't we advised of this?
Mayor Suarez: Of what, ma'am?
Ms. Kennedy: That M Securities had been left out.
Mr. Garcia: They were not left out. They were never part of the proposal.
Their name was on the cover page but in the detailed proposal, their resumes
were not included, there was no description at all that M Securities was
proposing with the other firms. We did call Shearson to try to clarify that
Information; they never got back to rs.
Mayor Suarez: And you're saying that had they been included because of the
presence of two other minority companies, you don't think it would have
affected ...
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Mr. Garcia: I can only speak for myself. There were five members on the
committee, but I don't think that would have changed my recommendation to you.
Mr. Cody Press: My name is Cody Press. I'm with Merrill -Lynch Capital
Markets. As you know, Merrill -Lynch was rated number three on the convention
center and parking garage refunding bonds two commission meetings ago.
Basically, we were rated number three and we heard the reason was because we
did not have a full minority team. For this particular proposal, we put
together a minority team that included AIBC Financial Corp. based in Miami;
Pryor, Govan & Counts, a black firm based in Philadelphia and Perry Investment
Firm which is the only female firm in the underwriting business today.
Mayor Suarez: Cody, could I ask you a question? I thought I heard AIBC with
someone else. Are they allowed to be included in more than one proponent?
Mr. Garcia: If the proposal included the firm and, of course, we're planning
on selecting only one City underwriter, evidently a minority firm could have
been with more than one senior....
Mayor Suarez: Who was the other one that they were in the top three?
Mr. Garcia: Shearson ...
Ms. Kennedy: Shearson Lehman.
Mr. Press: So based on the fact that we were one of only two firms out of 22
to put together a full team, Merrill -Lynch felt that our proposal should have
been rated higher. The other problem that we have with the rating system ...
Mayor Suarez: Did you find anything wrong with our criteria for ratings?
Mr. Press: Exactly, question number six which pertain to the minority firms
involved, Merrill -Lynch only received five out of a possible ten points. We
understand ...
Mayor Suarez: Of course, that's the rating, not the criteria, but okay.
Mr. Press: Right. If we had gotten a full 10 out of 10 points, reminding
that we were only one of two firms that had all three types of minority firms,
we would have been rated number one. Basically, I submit to the commission
and respectfully request that Merrill -Lynch be chosen as senior manager based
on the fact that we weren't allocated the appropriate points for question
number six and that we would include our full minority syndicate in the
transaction.
Mayor Suarez: For myself, I once again repeat that I hope that this
commission will see fit, in the future, to short list no less than five, and
for a period of twelve months five principal and five minority so that we can
avoid having arguments totally beyond the scope of this commission each time
around. But we didn't do it this time and I was told by the administration
that even if the commission wanted to do it, it was late to do it so we have
to specify for future RFPs. We couldn't do it for that one.
Mr. Press: Right, we were tied ...
Mayor Suarez: What number did you end up in by the way?
Mr. Press: We were tied with Citicorp for number fiye and then, at a
subsequent vote, were placed number six.
Mr. Odio: But, because he came in third in one issue, doesn't mean he come in
third in the next one, or first. It depends upon what numbers you can submit
at this time.
i Mayor Suarez: We understand that.
i'.
-! Mr. Press: I understand that *- -n».r ten• ^I, +f voi: compare the other
1' portions of the proposal, we matched up with all the other investment banks.
I•
Mr. Odio: I didn't see any of the proposals. I can tell you that it depends
on the numbers you submitted.
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Mr. Press: Our proposal, from a numbers standpoint, matches up with all the
other investment banks. If we would have gotten the points that we needed for
the minority participation aspect, we would have had the top rated proposal.
What I put to the commission is the fact that, how can Merrill -Lynch be rated
number three on an earlier transaction with no minority team? Here, we're
only one of two firms out of 22 that came up with a Black firm, a female firm,
an Hispanic firm, and yet, we're rated number six. That's the only problem
that I have and that Merrill -Lynch has with the rating process.
Mr. Plummer: You make a damn good point.
Ms. Kennedy: Yes, it is.
Mr. Plummer: How could they come up and fulfill all of the requirements and
have a potential, as I understand it, ten points when they met all of the
requirements and they only got five?
Mr. Garcia: Well, they got five from many members, from other members they
got up to seven points, so that's not necessarily true.
Mr. Plummer: Maybe you didn't understand, Carlos. Now tell me that they
didn't meet all the requirements and then I understand ...
Ms. Kennedy: But, if they did meet ...
Mr. Plummer: But, they're stating that there are 10 points given for the
minority aspect of the bidding procedure, that they claim that they met every
one of the minority points, did not get 10, but got five.
Mayor Suarez: Even the ones that gave them 7, why 7 instead of 10?
Mr. Garcia: Well, I don't have that proposal in front of me. I don't' think
that is the case ...
Mr. Plummer: Well, speak for yourself.
Mr. Garcia: Okay, that is the case because most of the minority participation
was ranked by the City's minority procurement officer, Adrian McBeth and I
don't have the proposal in front of me, but I would say that is not the case.
I don't think they complied with every one of the requirements of minority
participation.
Mr. Dawkins: Okay, hold it right here. Are you saying that ... What company
is this?
Mr. Press: Merrill -Lynch.
Mr. Dawkins: Merrill -Lynch. So are you saying that Merrill -Lynch, as a
prime, went out and got a black, a Cuban, and a woman, and bought them in with
them. Is that what you're saying?
Mr. Press: Yes sir.
Mr. Dawkins: And what part would they play?
Mr. Press: Merrill -Lynch would be the senior managers and ...
Mr. Dawkins: And how much would each of the other individuals share in the
profits or what have you?
Mr. Press: All of the management fee allocation as was done in the prior
transaction and as we mention, would be given to the minority firms.
Mr. Dawkins: All right. Then, if you were going to do that, and the firm who
! they chose ahead of you was going to do the same thing, why should you get any
i more than the others when you're not doing any more than the others?
Mr. Press We were Isle Lrusy iAcm ...
Mr. Dawkins: No, no, no, no, no. I don't want to know what you were, I'm
talking about money. I'm talking about the bottom line - money. Okay?
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Mr. Press: Okay.
Mr. Dawkins: And I'm talking in terms of who was going to give money to whom.
So now, you went out and got a black, a woman, and a Cuban, and you're going
to give them the same X dollars that this guy over here only got, maybe, a
woman. But now, because you got three minorities, you're not giving them
three X monies. You're giving them one X money the same as this guy is giving
one X money, so why should I give you any more than I give anybody else? He
personally.
Mr. Press: Well, if you look at the way the monies would be disbursed in the
transaction, by the fact that we were including two more minority firms ...
Mr. Dawkins: But you were not giving them two X more dollars.
Mr. Press: No, let me give an example ...
Mr. Dawkins: Okay.
Mr. Press: If we had just gone in with an Hispanic firm ...
Mr. Dawkins: No, no, no, no, I don't want you to give an example. I want you
to use the example I gave you. Okay? You're getting just like the media over
here. You know, you take the question and answer it the way you want to
answer it. No, no, no. If you want me to give you three X for participation,
then you give me three X dollars. But, if you're only going to give one X
dollar, the same as everybody else is giving for minority participation, then
I don't owe you nothing.
Mr. Press: No, we would be giving more money by having more minority firms
included.
Mr. Dawkins: No, you would not. You just told me you were going to give the
same one X.
Mr. Press: That was only on the management fee component.
Mr. Dawkins: Now explain to me what ...
Mr. Garcia: Their proposal did not include any minority firms. They said
that they would comply with the City's requirement, but there were no minority
firms, as spelled out in the proposal.
Mr. Dawkins: And that was one X, right?
Mr. Garcia: Yes sir, that was one of five questions.
Mr. Dawkins: Thank you, thank you. No further questions.
(NOTE: Commissioner Carollo entered the meeting at 3:16 p.m.)
Mayor Suarez: Let's hear from everyone, please.
Mr. Ernest Green: My name is Ernest Green. I'm senior vice-president with
Shearson Lehman and, for the record, Mr. Mayor, M Securities will be part of
the Shearson proposal.
Mayor Suarez: Any other presentations from any of the other underwriters?
Mr. Mike Abrams: Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Members of the commission. Mike
Abrams, vice-president of Bass Sterns, Miami. We came out tied for second in
rankings. There are times when we have not been short listed, but we've
accepted the process and I think to be argumentative over how the selection
committee made its decision now, is pointless and counterproductive. We would
very much like to be senior manager. We have an office in the City of Miami.
We haven't had an opportunity to senior manage a deal yet for the City
although we've been co -manager on one occasion, and we believe it's good
puu&iu pu•Lcy Lu nave aitzerent senior managers serve the City. We'd like our
opportunity today. Thank you.
Mayor Suarez: You have a black junior manager. Do you have any Hispanic ...
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Mr. Abrams: No, but of course we'd be willing to accept any combination that
completes that picture, composition, whatever.
Mayor Suarez: What is Metro Equities?
Mr. Garcia: That's a Black firm out of Chicago.
Mr. Tony Saviero: Good afternoon, Mayor, Commissioners. My name is Tony
Saviero, I'm a vice-president, regional manager with Prudential Bache Capital
Funding and we were selected number one by the review committee. I have with
me Al Parera, with First Equity with their offices in Miami and Valencia Corp,
with Metro Equity out of Chicago and Steve Eddy is in our New York office for
Prudential Bache.
Mayor Suarez: No, First Equity is not mentioned here on the cover, but, I
guess they're part of your proposal somehow?
Mr. Saviero: Exactly. We added them by letter to the City Finance Director
on Monday.
Mayor Suarez: That's the company that, for I don't know how many years, has
been trying to do business with the City.
Mr. Saviero: Exactly, and they're located ...
Mayor Suarez: They're the only, sort of officially local company that ...
Mr. Saviero: Officially local, but more ...
Mayor Suarez: Well, that's a tough word to define. I don't ...
Mr. Saviero: More important than that ...
Mayor Suarez: Many years local.
Mr. Saviero: And they're a substantial company. They have over two million
dollars in capital and they also are an active participant in the market, the
market place. Briefly, I think what happened here is that the commission is
looking for 2, 4enior manager and essentially the primary job of a senior
manager is to price the bonds. And that directly affects the cost to the City
of the monies that it's borrowing. The City, in the last several years, have
offerei, and since 1983 have offered three competitive sales of their bonds -
general obligation bonds. Of those three competitive sales, we were senior
manager on two of those. One of those competitive sales, Prudential Bache was
the senior manager on was the one that you're refunding now. And what we've
proven to the City in the past, and what we're capable of proving now, is that
in a competitive environment, we successfully priced the bonds at the lowest
possible cost to the City, then obviously we can do that in a negotiated
situation.
Mayor Suarez: Would you be willing to be joint managers or junior managers
with, for example, Bear Stearns or one of the other companies rated in the top
three?
Mr. Saviero: Mr. Mayor, we are willing to work with anybody the City
Commission selects. We only ask that, if going along with the commission's
recommendations, we be the senior manager - based upon our past performance
with the City.
Mr. Plummer: Every time - every time - the same damn mess comes before this
commission. Now, something that we're doing is wrong. We have a system
that's supposed to evaluate, a system that is supposed to make a presentation
to this commission who are supposedly knowledgeable. And everytime before
that microphone, we have people standing up there telling us that we got pot
holes. Now I understand sour grapes and I didn't win and this is the reason
why, but I think there have been some legitimate points that have been raised.
And I say that maybe what we need to do is what I tried very strongly to do
^F • :ei:t, totally independent company to do the
analization. Because I've been here seventeen years and everytime we have the
same problem. And I don't think that after all that time, it can be the
dealers say, "deal" ... the winners say, "let's go home" and the losers cry,
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"deal". I don't know. Carlos, I asked you a question I'll ask you on the
record and I think I know really - all five of these firms are, in fact, top
notch firms. Is that correct?
Mr. Garcia: Yes they are. That is right.
Mr. Plummer: Okay, thank you.
Mayor Suarez: Commissioners.
Ms. Kennedy: Well, let me tell you. I have met with most of these firms and
they're all great firms. Prudential Bache was ranked number first, Berson
Shearson tied for second, but Prudential, as well as Shearson Lehman, have
senior managed deals for the City of Miami. Bears Stearns, which is a major
investment firm has not had the opportunity yet. And furthermore, they have
made the commitment to open an office here in Miami, so what I'd like to
propose is for them to be chosen as the senior manager with the Shearson group
as co -manager. And, you know, Carlos, I believe that the County, I'm not sure
and I ask you, just this; could we have the minority firms in a revolving
basis as well as the firms based in Miami.
Mr. Garcia: Yeah, I think we would like to do that.
Ms. Kennedy: To put our money where our mouth is.
Mr. Garcia: I think we would love if you authorized us to issue an REP to
come up with a list of minority firms and also small local firms that we can
use on a rotating basis.
Ms. Kennedy: I would like to see that done.
Mr. Garcia: In addition to that, we'll just have through the City
underwriting selection process when necessary, but we'll keep the small firms
on a rotating basis.
Mrs. Kennedy: Ok that's my motion.
Mayor Suarez: You said, with marriaging or marrying together forcefully, I
guess, the two number two firms that are tied? Not with Prudential Bache?
You're saying Bear Stearns and Shearson Lehman?
Ms. Kennedy: Bear Stearns with Shearson Lehman.
Mr. Plummer: Is that a motion?
Ms. Kennedy: That is my motion.
Mr. Plummer: I'll second the motion.
Mr. Carollo: Well, what is the motion now?
Mr. Plummer: Motion is to pick the number two team because the number one
team has, in fact, just recently received a large bond issue from the City.
Mr. Carollo: Okay, but which number two team are you talking about?
Ms. Kennedy: Bear Stearns.
Mr. Plummer: We're talking about Bear Stearns and Shearson Lehman.
Mr. Carollo: What you're saying is to pick Bear Stearns. ,
Ms. Kennedy: As the senior manager.
Mayor Suarez: But require participation of Shearson Lehman as a junior
manager.
Ms. Kennedy: As a junior manager.
Mayor Suarez: Commissioners. Before I let the gentleman make one last final
point, I'm not saying this is going to pass, but ...
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Mr. Carollo: There's a second, right? There's a second?
Mr. Saviero: One brief point, if I could. Prudential Bache, Tony Saviero.
Local presence is something that I know is very important to the City. We
have six offices in the Miami area, 125 account executives, Prudential has
over $200,000,000 in real estate assets in the City of Miami and the outlying
areas. I just wanted to make that point.
Ms. Kennedy: Right. And it is a valid point, but it is a big pie and we
should share it.
Mr. Saviero: Sure. As I said, we are more than willing to share the pie.
But the point to stress is when we bought the bonds as senior manager, it was
not given to us. We bought the bonds in two competitive situations where we
had to go out, put together a syndicate and had to bid on those bonds against
every other firm that bid. And we were successful because we bid the lowest
possible cost to the City - in a competitive environment. That's where I'm
saying we have stood beside the City on several occasions to produce the
lowest possible cost of funds. Thank you.
Mayor Suarez: Anyone else? For myself, I would have preferred, and I don't
know if this is going to pass, but I would have preferred Prudential Bache to
be married with Bear Stearns particularly because of that local participation
that we've been trying to resolve for First Equities. But, the most important
thing is to get this resolved. Call the roll.
Mr. Carollo: But ...
Mayor Suarez: Commissioner.
Mr. Carollo: Wait, Mr. Mayor, if you want to make a motion to that effect,
I'll go ahead and second it.
Mayor Suarez: I want to follow the cofimission's consensus, I mean I haven't
heard anyone else state any preference and I've heard two commissioners state
that they wanted to go with this marriage ...
Mr. Carollo: No, no. If you want to make a motion, to make it that way, I'll
go ahead and second it.
Ms. Kennedy: Well, why don't we see if my motion passes first?
Mr. Carollo: I have no problem with that, commissioner. But he made a
statement that he wanted to vote one way and I just wanted to clarify that,
you know, I would second that motion so that he could vote the way that he
wants to.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I guess the question is, are you offering a
substitute motion?
Mayor Suarez: No, I am not.
Mr. Carollo: Okay, so I guess he didn't want to vote that way after all.
Mayor Suarez: Anyone else? Any further discussion? Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Kennedy, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 87-340
A RESOLUTION SELECTING AND APPOINTING THE MANAGEMENT
TEAM HEADED BY BEAR, STEARNS & CO., INC., AS SENIOR
UNDERWRITERS, AND THE MANAGEMENT TEAM HEADED BY
SHEARSON LEHMAN BROTHERS, INC., AS CO -MANAGERS, FOR
THE CITY OF MIAMI GENERAL OBLIGATION REFUNDING BONDS,
SERIES 1987A, AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO
NEGOTIATE A CONTRACT FOR SAID UNDERWRITING SERVICES.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk
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Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
43. TEMPORARY DEFERRAL OF HEALTH FACILITIES AUTHORITY HOSPITAL REVENUE BONDS
FOR MERCY HOSPITAL AND CEDARS MEDICAL CENTER (See label #63 and #64)
Mayor Suarez: Forty-four, I think is the one we left it at.
Mr. Dawkins: May I ask a question before we get carried away here. Why did
we withdraw 47 and 48?
Mayor Suarez: No, I think they're back on again. Mr. City Manager.
Mr. Odio: The reason that I had withdrawn them in the first place is that I
asked Carlos Garcia when I saw the agenda items, why would we do this for
free? That I wanted a fee charged and we have negotiated and I want you to
include in the motion, if you would, that we have to obtain $15,000 for each
one of this to pass it through here.
Mr. Dawkins: All right, let me ask a question before we get carried away.
Who is their minority participation in $65,000,000 worth of bonds and
$45,000,000 worth of bonds?
Mr. Garcia: Commissioner, right now they don't have any minority
participation ...
Mr. Dawkins: Then I will hear this when they come and tell me who they are.
I move 47 and 48 be deferred until they come and tell me who the bond counsel
and bond everything minority will be with them period. Now I will listen to
you.
Mr. Garcia: They are willing to comply with the City's requirements and they
are on a very ...
Mr. Dawkins: Well, if they were so willing, knowing that I've been sitting up
here yelling and screaming for this, why didn't they bring it here today?
Mr. Garcia: Okay, let me tell you, I think the reason commissioner is that
these are City of Miami health facilities authorities.
Mr. Dawkins: I hear you. I understand clearly what you're saying. And they
know that this commission here, all five of us, have a policy that they have
to involve minorities. Now, if I'm wrong, somebody up here will correct me.
They know this is our policy and yet they come here today and want to
refinance $65,000,000 worth of bonds and tell me that, if you okay this, I
will come back. No, you come first.
Mr. Garcia: The explanation, commissioners, is that in the past, they never
had to come to the City Commission to get these items approved. Once they are
approved by the authority, that was sufficient. Under the 1986 Tax Reform
Act, they have to come back to the City Commission for approval.
Mr. Dawkins: When was the 1986 tax act passed?
Mr. Garcia: These were the first two items that were ...
Mr. Dawkins: When was it passed?
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Mr. Garcia: At the end of last year.
Mr. Dawkins: End of 1986?
Mr. Garcia: That's right.
Mr. Dawkins: This is the middle of '87. And they didn't know until today
that they had to comply with - come before us?
Mr. Garcia: Well, its really a new procedure, commissioner, otherwise they
would have known.
Mr. Dawkins: No, no, no, no. You see ... no, no, no ...you just told me that
the reason they didn't come, is they did not know they had to come. That's
what you just told me. Now you're telling me something different. Now they
knew they had to come.
Mr. Garcia: Well, they didn't know exactly what the requirements of the City
of Miami are. They knew the requirements of the authority.
Mr. Dawkins: Well, you take from now until the next commission meeting to
explain to them what they need to bring to us to get our okay.
Mr. Plummer: I got another problem. Madam City Attorney. I was told - I
inquired with us making any kind of an approval with this matter before us,
that there was, in no way, anyway, that this City could incur a liability.
That was at the time when there was no revenue to the City. Now the manager
is stating that, in fact, we are going to be receiving revenue, whether its a
fee or whatever it is, we're talking about $110,000,000 worth of bonds. Are
we, in any way, creating a liability for this City especially now that we are
receiving revenue, is it a fee? What do you call it?
Mr. Garcia: It is a fee, yes sir.
Mr. Plummer: Are we creating a liability for this City now that a fee is
being charged?
Ms. Dougherty: No sir. Under the state law, there is no obligation of the
City in its general fund debt service or anything. So the answer is "no" to
your question and we traditionally provide a service, we the City Attorney's
office and have always gotten a fee out of these kinds of issues.
Mr. Plummer: Okay. I've also asked the question, Madam City Attorney, I sit
on the board of directors of Mercy Hospital Outpatient Clinic, and I would ask
that before the next meeting, whether or not I have any conflict. You're
deferring 47 and 48 again?
Mr. Dawkins: Unless the Finance Manager tells me that we create an undue
burden on them and that they might be able to sell the bonds ...
Mr. Garcia: I think what we can do ... It will create a tremendous burden on
them. What we can do is ...
Mr. Dawkins: Why?
Mr. Garcia: Because they're already on a tight frame, they want to sell the
bonds by the beginning of next month. What we can do is pass these two
resolutions with the proviso that they come back to you and approve the
underwriting team to make sure they incorporate minority participation.
Mr. Dawkins: In other words, J. L. and the rest of you, what you're saying is
we pass it on firat reading and he has to bring back this for the second
reading?
Mr. Garcia: Sir, it's a resolution, sir. It requires only one reading but
what I can give you is my word that we will get back to you and submit to you
what minority participation they have, and once we get your approval, we'll
proceed with the bonds.
Mr. Dawkins: No way, no way.
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Mayor Suarez: Our involvement is
jurisdiction that invests us with the
little involvement beyond that, do we?
Mr. Garcia: That is right.
basically as the authority or the
authority to do it but we have very
Mr. Plummer: None. Well, excuse me, we do have authority, by virtue of the
fact we appoint the members.
Mr. Dawkins: You see, the only this is, I sit up here and everytime this
comes up, I got to yell and scream. I've yelled and screamed so much up here
till everybody know I'm going to yell and scream and yet they come here
unprepared. You know, I mean, so now if they were really sincere and honest
about the minority participation, they would have had it this morning. And
the fact that you don't have it, even though I may be right, I have to be led
to believe that you never intended to do it and you're going to do the minimal
that you can get away with it, if we allow it.
Mr. Garcia: After the last time that I talked to you, I have talked to some
of these firms and they have given me names of firms that they are planning to
use with them. People like W. R. Lazard, Daniels & Bell ...
Mr. Dawkins: Who?
Mr. Garcia: W. R. Lazard. It's a black underwriting firm ...
Mr. Dawkins: I am tired of Daniels & Bell. Daniels & Bell is not in the City
of Miami and tell them I said so. All right? We've given them enough
business. They're a minority and they've had enough. Now give me another
minority.
Mayor Suarez: W. R. Lazard, he said.
Mr. Dawkins: All right, that's two - one. Give me another one.
Mr. Garcia: Well, they have given me five names of different underwriting
firms that they have done business with and they are willing to do with them.
Daniels & Bell ...
Mr. Dawkins: Okay, and out of the $105,000,000, what are we talking about?
Mr. Garcia: It depends upon how many bonds these firms are willing to sell.
I couldn't give you a percentage at this time.
Mr. Dawkins: Okay, see that's what I'm talking about. You've given me two
minority firms, right?
Mr. Garcia: Yes, they have five minority firms that they could do business
with, as far as underwriting the bonds.
Mr. Dawkins: And if those five minority firms can only handle 5 million
dollars, they don't have nothing to give up. Do you see what I'm saying? So,
if you've got to get 20 minority firms to get a sizeable amount of money, then
that's what I want to see. But don't tell me you've got 10 and then we look
at this 10 and find out that out of $105,000,000, all they can handle is 5
million. See, we haven't accomplished anything. They still got $100,000,000
to place with White firms. Show me about 50 or 60 million dollars with the
minorities, that you're going to place with them, and then they got me. Okay?
Mr. Garcia: Okay.
Mr. Dawkins: No further discussion.
Mayor Suarez: What did we finally do? Do you want to ...
Mr. Dawkins: befer and let them come back and tell me who the minorities are
going to be that are going to participate in $105,000,000.
Mayor Suarez: We have a motion to defer and a second. Any diac:uo..iw"'s, %.s,j
the roll.
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THEREUPON, the City Commission on motion duly
made by Commissioner Dawkins and seconded by
Commissioner Kennedy, deferred consideration of
the above matter by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
DURING ROLL CALL:
Mr. Plummer: This is to defer.
Mr. Dawkins: Yes.
Mayor Suarez: 47 and 48.
44. TEMPORARY DEFERRAL OF PROPOSED CONTRACTS WITH COMMUNITY BASED
ORGANIZATIONS (See label #56)
Mayor Suarez: Forty-five. Get that done and forty-six.
Frank Castaneda: Commissioners ...
Mayor Suarez: CDBG Block grants, this has been ...
Mr. Castaneda: Right. If you recall, last year we allocated $770,000 for a
mini-UDAG type of concept. We created a a committee that reviewed
applications composed of myself, Department of Development, Planning and
representatives from the City Manager. We reviewed approximately 13
applications, of which we are recommending four projects for funding. The
recommendation of these four projects are in the form of loans. We have
$28,000 for Tacolcy Economic Development for a Spic and Span car wash; the
Haitian Task Force, $150,000 for a retail gallery center, $150,000 for a Small
Business Opportunity Center, Inc., for the Trade Center of the Americas; and
$50,000 for the Downtown Miami Business Association for promotions. All these
monies are in loan form and they have to be repaid back.
Mr. Plummer: What is the recommendation of the Community Development Board?
Mr. Castaneda: The Community Development Board, when they created this, they
created a committee. They were aware that a committee would be created of
staff people from the City of Miami and this did not go to the... this is not
part of the recommendations for the 13th year Community Development. This is
12th year money.
Mayor Suarez: This is not social service. Right?
Mr. Plummer: But what does the Community Development Board... what is their
recommendation?
Mr. Castaneda: They have neither recommendations for...
Mr. Plummer: I move that this item be deferred until such time as Community
Development Board has been...
Mayor Suarez: Well, wait, I think we set them up for the social services part
of the C.D.B.G. monies, didn't we?
Mr. Plummer: No, no, they speak to all of it, Mr. Mayor. That was a board
that was to recommend on the total funding of CommLr:ay �:..;:1....._..
Mr. Dawkins: Second.
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Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded. Any discussion? Call the roll.
THEREUPON, the City Commission on motion duly
made by Commissioner Plummer and seconded by
Commissioner Dawkins, deferred consideration of
the above matter by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
(NOTE: This item later passed as R-87-350)
45. REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS TO BE ISSUED FOR MANAGEMENT OF MIAMARINA.
Mayor Suarez: Item 46.
Mr. Plummer: Item 46, damn, I didn't read this.
Mr. Odio: Item 46 is authorizing the issuance of an R.F.P. for professional
management of Miamarina, including the commercial fisherman dockage areas,
Bayside Specialty Center and Pier Park. This is a 15 year management
agreement and the successful proposers shall reimburse the City approximately
3.5 million dollars for marina renovations and buy out of prior lease
management agreement. The facility includes 165 slips, so the 15 years are
based... we are agreeing on 15 years because we are requiring a fee, at least
a minimum of $3,500,000 capital investment.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Manager, the last figure we saw on this was $3,000,000. Now
it is up to $3,500,0001
Mr. Gilchrist: Sir, there is interest running.
Mr. Plummer: The interest is outlined at $248,000.
Mr. Gilchrist: Two four eight, and what actually will be needed at the time
will be determined at that moment in time in terms of the buy out of the
previous marina agreement, the one six seven five. We have 1.6 million in
here for the renovations of the Miamarina. As you know, the Commission
limited us to the 1.5 million. We had also some additional architectural
expenses in it. Now, specifically, they are to pay us the buy out of the New
World Marina, the one six seven five, plus interest, upon being awarded the
management agreement. The payment of the renovations we have suggested in
here could be amortized out of revenues generated.
Mr. Plummer: Are they paying all of that up front?
Mr. Gilchrist: No, what they would pay is the 1.65 plus interest... 1.675,
plus interest, but the renovation costs could be paid... it is recommended
here that it could be paid out of the revenue generated at the marina over
the duration of the lease and that would be plus interest"for that period of
time.
Mr. Plummer: What do you anticipate would be the return to the City,
percentage?
Mr. Gilchrist: Well, there are a number of ways of looking at that, sir. If,
for instance, you know, the Bayside project is required to bid on it, they
would probably come back and have the same arrangement they have on *heir
overall agreement with us, which would be a little aitterent way of
approaching it and a percentage. I've anticipated that it could demonstrate
$400,000 income beyond the expenses of operation, but not including debt
service.
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Mr. Plummer: What do you figure debt service would be?
Mr. Gilchrist: Well, if you take 1.5 million over 15 years...
Mr. Plummer: How much is that?
Mr. Gilchrist: Just doing that in my head, sir.
Mrs. Kennedy: Translate it into dollars and cents..
Mr. Gilchrist: Right. One second. It would be like, at 10 percent... you
will have to give me a minute to calculate this. Ask me another question
while I am running that.
Mrs. Kennedy: Who does your math?
Mr. Gilchrist: Pardon?
Mr. Plummer: Who will control the rates under a management agreement?
Mr. Gilchrist: I would say like $125,000 to $150,000 a year.
Mr. Plummer: So, then you are looking at a potential $250,000 in revenue.
Who would manage the rates?
Mr. Gilchrist: The City determines the rates...
Mr. Plummer: By its ordinance?
Mr. Gilchrist: And the way that it works... no sir, the Manager has the right
to determine those rates from time to time and we have suggested on the
recommendation of the private party operating the marina, but the way the
ordinance reads, the City Manager has the right to change the rates from time
to time, set the rates from time to time.
Mr. Plummer: As long as this Commission retains the right to reject all bids,
I have no problem with going out.
Mayor Suarez: That translates to a motion in favor?
Mr. Plummer: Yes, sir.
Mayor Suarez: Do we have a second?
Mr. Dawkins: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Seconded. Any discussion? Call the roll on 46.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 87-341
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ISSUE A
REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS, IN SUBSTANTIALLY THE ATTACHED FORM,
FOR PROCUREMENT OF PROFESSIONAL MANAGEMENT SERVICES FOR
CITY -OWNED MIAMARINA, EXCLUDING THE COMMERCIAL FISHERMEN
DOCKAGE AREA LOCATED AT AND ADJACENT TO BAYFRONT PARK AND
THE BAYSIDE SPECIALTY CENTER AND THE PIER PARK LOCATED ON
THE PENINSULA ADJACENT TO BISCAYNE BAY.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here
and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Dawkins, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote-
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AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
46. DEFER CONSIDERATION OF PROPOSED AGREEMENTS WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD FOR USE
OF CITY PARKS.
Mayor Suarez: Agenda item 50, lease agreement with the School Board.
Mr. Odio: This is the lease agreement that was developed as you instructed me
to develop this here...
Mr. Plummer: What about 49?
Mr. Odio: We did 49.
Mayor Suarez: That was the bond underwriting, I think.
Mr. Odio: This is a one year lease with 24 renewal options at the City's
discretion. The rental fee will be $1.00 per year plus 40 percent of actual
cost to maintain premises. Total initial payment for FY187 will be $101,200.
The purpose is for playground and recreational areas in connection with their
educational objectives.
Mayor Suarez: Renewable every year at our discretion, right?
Mr. Odio: Yes, sir.
Mayor Suarez: Which are the playgrounds, just very quickly, can you enumerate
them?
Mr. Odio: This covers the City of Miami Lemon City, Athalie Range, Gibson,
Grant, West End and Shenandoah Parks.
Mrs. Kennedy: Mr. Manager, if they are paying us a rental fee of $1.00 a
year, why are they paying only 40 percent for maintenance?
Mr. Plummer: And they are getting 100 percent use.
Mr. Odio: You can have $101,000...
Mayor Suarez: No, they are not getting 100 percent use.
Mr. Odio: No. We have been meeting with them for over two years. They proved
to us, through the Parks Department, that their actual use is only 40 percent
of the time, and that is what we based that.
Mayor Suarez: That is your best estimate of what they used it for.
Mr. Odio: That is all we could prove, that they only use it 40 percent of the
time. I want to tell you, we have never had any agreements with the School
Board prior to this one...
Mayor Suarez: They just used them.
Mr. Odio: ... they had used them.
Mayor Suarez: Yes.
Mr. Dawkins: From 8:00 o'clock in the morning until 3:30 p.m. in the
afternoon, and the park closes at 10:00 p.m., that is 20 percent?
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Mr. Odio: I don't know from memory, Commissioner. Walter?
Mr. Dawkins: Ask somebody.
Mr. Odio: Is Walter Golby here? When we met them, with the actual hours
used, comes out to 40 percent, Commissioner.
Mr. Dawkins: OK, school take in at 8:00 o'clock, OK? Some of them at 8:30.
Mr. Odio: Yes, but they are not out there.
Mr. Dawkins: Why? They go P.E., I mean, they go to P.E. all day long.
Mr. Odio: I don't know.
Mr. Dawkins: I dot They got P.E. classes all day long. It is not that they
go out there for noon and only play out there at 12 o'clock.
Mr. Odio: Commissioner, you might be right. I strongly recommend this,
because it has been first, to take them to even recognize that they had to pay
anything has been a struggle.
Mr. Dawkins: I don't care It we stop them from using them, I've said that
from day onet
Mr. Plummer: Well, I agree with you.
Mr. Dawkins: OK? You see, I keep telling you over and over the School Board
has a millage and they charge, and we're subsidizing the School Boardt That's
what we are doing.
Mr. Plummer: Well, we are doing it in more than just parks, we are doing it
with School Patrol, we are doing it with S.R.O., which is all their
responsibility. I think that... are you making a motion, Commissioner? I
think the motion is we send it back to the Manager for further refinement,
feeling that this is not adequate.
Mrs. Kennedy: Right.
s Mr. Dawkins: If they don't want to pay more money, don't use them.
Mr. Odio: You instructed me last time to raise them above the $90,000 mark,
or $100,000. We have done that.
Mr. Dawkins: OK, all I am saying is, you go back and you negotiate. If they
say they don't want to pay what this Commission feels is reasonable, tell them
don't use it.
Mr. Odio: Could you tell me what the Commission feels is reasonable?
Mrs. Kennedy: Yes, why don't we establish a reasonable cost?
Mr. Plummer: Well, I think 80 percent.
Mr. Dawkins: All right, I will tell you what is reasonable. What does it
cost Mr. Golby to operate Gibson Park annually?
Mayor Suarez: By the way, in the allocation of the expenditures for each
park, do we not have some fudge factor there that we could...
Mr. Dawkins: That is what I am going to get.
Mayor Suarez: ...for which we could get 40 percent. It could be 40 percent
of one thing and 40 percent of another thing. Couldn't it be something that
you guys could work out without having to... I mean...
Mr. Odio: I can assure you, and I have negotiated for a year and a half, that
you will not get another dollar from them.
Mr. Plummer: Well then, that is fine, you know, then that is it t I make a
motion that item 50 be denied.
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Mr. Dawkins: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded. I am not going to vote with the motion.
Mr. Plummer: Well, do you have a better idea?
Mayor Suarez: We accept the 40 percent and we include in the expenditures of
the parks, a lot more things than what we have included so far. I am sure you
can come up with some more.
Mr. Plummer: OK, I am not going to take the political heat with you voting
that way, and I appreciate it.
Mr. Dawkins: I'll take it, I'll take it! I'll move...
Mr. Plummer: No, I won't, I won't. Item 50, I move it to be deferred.
Mr. Dawkins: No, no, no, I'd rather... no, I am going to make my motion and
let it die, because I have no problems with taking the heat, OK?
Mr. Plummer: No, well...
Mr. Dawkins: No, no, no! I'll make the motion that it be denied, because I
do not think that the School Board is picking up its fair share for using our
parks. Now, if it dies for the lack of a motion, I have no problem with it,
but I make the motion.
Mrs. Kennedy: Before we vote, is there any way, Walter...
Mr. Dawkins: We don't have a second yet, it may die for lack of a second.
Mr. Plummer: Second for discussion.
Mrs. Kennedy: Walter, is there any way to send it back for further
negotiation?
Mr. Plummer: The Manager said no.
Mayor Suarez: He said he can't get anything better.
Mrs. Kennedy: You're positive?
Mr. Odio: I wouldn't say that if I didn't mean it.
Mr. Dawkins: We just sit up here and we are not able to provide day care for
children who need it, OK? We have got some senior citizens out here, of which
I am a member, who said they need help, OK? And yet, we have got an entity
that can support itself and we are going to subsidize it. Come on, that's not
right!
Mr. Odio: Commissioner, you are right, and we have been subsidizing them for
a lifetime, and this is the first time we have ever obtained any funds from
the School Board.
Mr. Dawkins: But, we are not getting paid, you are getting a token.
Mr. Odlo: Well, except that...
Mr. Dawkins: You know, it is like putting a pacifier in a baby's mouth, what
has he got?
Mr. Odio: No, I think it is a beginning.
Mr. Dawkins: I can't... I mean, I made my motion. If it dies for lack of a
second, that is fine.
- Mayor Suarez: Unless he withdraws the second, we have got a second. I just
feel that you know, you tried #wfully hard and we keep going around and around
LN ...rr �.. r..Q•
Mr. Plummer: Yes, but Mr. Mayor, this is a fight long before you came on this
Commission. We fought... we are paying what?... 4300,000 and some for school
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patrolmen which they used to pay and just quit) We are paying for S.R.O.'s,
we are paying, paying, paying, and they are not at their millage cap. We are.
Now, I think in all fairness, you know, they have got an obligation to assume
what is rightfully theirs for the taxes they collect and to come around here
and insult the City by offering us 40 percent, and they are going to use it 80
percent?
Mr. Dawkins: And not only that, Mr. Mayor, talking about the S.R.O.'s, they
have a school security systeml
Mr. Plummer: Now, don't bring that one up.
Mr. Dawkins: No, no, but why can't those officers who are officers, serve as
S.R.O.'s and let our police go out and police the streets?
Mr. Plummer: And let me tell you what they did to establish that force, Mr.
Mayor. They came and robbed the City of 39 policemen so they wouldn't have to
spend the $13,000 to put them through school by offering them $1,000 more.
That is how they deal with you.
Mayor Suarez: Well, we have got 40 percent this year, maybe we will get 50 or
60 percent next year, I mean, it is a start.
Mrs. Kennedy: OK, Mr. Manager, last question - Can we get at least 50
percent, or 60 percent of maintenance cost from them?
Mr. Odio: Could I offer a compromise, I think, maybe.
Mrs. Kennedy: Go ahead.
Mr. Plummer: Yes, 80 percent.
Mr. Odio: Let's take a check for $101,000 and put a clause in there that we
will negotiate for next year up...
Mr. Plummer: No, I am not going to let them off the hook.
Mr. Odio: You are going to put the Parks Department in a $100,000 hole.
Mr. Plummer: Hey, no, that is not the pointl The point is, they are going to
have to come back and negotiate to use our park. Why should we have to go to
them? We are not asking to use their property, they are asking to use ours.
Let them come to us.
Mr. Odio: Commissioner, I... the argument back and forth, the kids have to
go to those schools live in those neighborhoods. They are entitled to use
those parks free.
Mr. Plummer: Without question.
Mr. Dawkins: They are not supposed to be on the park when they are supposed
to be in school.
Mr. Odio: Well, that is...
Mr. Dawkins: All right, OK, no, no, nowt So let them keep them off my parks
while they are supposed to be in school. When school let out, they can go on
the parks that their parent's taxes...
Mr. Plummer: Do they provide liability insurance?
Mr. Odio: Yes, it is covered.
Mr. Plummer: What?
Mr. Odio: In this contract.
Mr. Plummer: No, did they provide liability insurance prior to this contract?
Mr. Odio: No.
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Mr. Plummer: In other words, if a kid gets hurt in our park while he is
playing in our park, at the direction of the school, this City is liable.
Mr. Odio: Prior to this, we have never had any agreements with the School
Board. They were just using the parks, period. This is the first time we
have been able to get them to sit down and talk.
Mr. Plummer: We are the biggest sucker with the deepest pockets in this town.
Mayor Suarez: You don't think you can get 50 percent, at least?
Mr. Odio: I will try.
Mr. Plummer: I just don't want to hassle with them, OK? Let them come
proffer to us. You know, why are we going on bent knee to them?
Mrs. Kennedy: So what should we do, defer it?
Mr. Dawkins: My motion dies for lack of a second. Make another motion so we
can go.
Mrs. Kennedy: OK, you want to go ahead and...
Mr. Plummer: I withdraw my second. I think we made our points. I make a
motion at this time that we defer this item and if the School Board is further
interested, that they will come before this Commission and negotiate it, not
with the Manager, before this Commission, and that they so be put on notice
that they are not to use the facilities without proper indemnification... how
do we word that?... that we are not liable for any accidents.
Mrs. Kennedy: If they use it, the City is not liable.
Mayor Suarez: Technically, they wouldn't be able to use it for their school
activities at all, if we so resolve.
Mrs. Kennedy: Second.
Mr. Plummer: OK, put them on notice.
Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded. When would that take effect, Madam City
Attorney?
Mr. Plummer: Today.
Mayor Suarez: Or tomorrow morning?
Mrs. Dougherty: As soon as we notify them.
Mr. Plummer: Well, no, in all fairness, I think we ought to give them two
weeks. Give them to beyond the next Commission meeting, effective the first
of May.
Mayor Suarez: That will get them here.
Mr. Plummer: Yes, sir.
Mayor Suarez: OK, moved and seconded. Any further discussion? Call the
roll.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner` Plummer, who moved
its adoption:
MOTION NO. 87-342
A MOTION DEFERRING CONSIDERATION OF PROPOSED RESOLUTION
AUTHORIZING SIX LEASE AGREEMENTS WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD OF
DADE COUNTY FOR THEIR USE OF CITY PARKS; FURTHER
REQUESTING THE ADMINISTRATION TO HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE OF
-:.... %Oj%RD APPEAR BEFORE THE COMMISSION IN CONNECTION WITH
SAID REQUEST AND FURTHER PLACING THE SCHOOL BOARD ON
NOTICE THAT THEY ARE NOT TO USE CITY PARKS EFFECTIVE THE
BEGINNING OF THE 1987-88 SCHOOL YEAR.
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Upon being seconded by Commissioner Kennedy, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
ON ROLL CALL:
Mr. Plummer: To defer, the answer is yes.
(INAUDIBLE BACKGROUND COMMENTS)
Mr. Plummer: What? That is even better. The Manager just made a
point.
Schools are out June 1st, it gives them all summer to become nice guys. And
don't let Bill Turner come down herel Don't let Bill Turner come down
here to
negotiate. Bill Turner comes down and gets anything he wants.
Mrs. Kennedy: Remember the last time he was here.
Mr. Dawkins: So what, every time I look up, you found $100,000,000,
so what
is a $100,000?
Mr. Plummer: We will get that $100,000 back and more.
Mr. Dawkins: Every time I look up you found $100,000, another
phantom
millionl
Mr. Plummer: And more.
Mayor Suarez: Special programs and accounts. OK, call the roll,
unless
somebody wants to withdraw the motion.
Ms. Hirai: It has been called.
Mayor Suarez: Oh, it has been?
Ms. Hirai: Yes, sir.
Mayor Suarez: OK, I could have sworn it wasn't.
Ms. Hirai: I can call it again, if you want.
Mayor Suarez: No, just be sure.
47. AUTHORIZE PERMIT FOR NICARAGUAN AMERICAN FOUNDATION INC. FOR USE OF
OFFICE SPACE AT HENDERSON PARK.
Mayor Suarez: Item 51, Nicaraguan American Foundation, Inc. You can come up
to the mike, we may not need to hear from you, I am not sure.
Mr. Plummer: Nicaraguan... ,
Mayor Suarez: I presume this is an Administration item?
Mr. Odio: We are recommending this.
Mrs. Kennedy: Move it.
....�... tju".vL: Moved.
Mr. Plummer: Is this like the Cuban Foundation?
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Mayor Suarez: We were instructed to find them space. This is where...
Mrs. Kennedy: Oh, you found it? OK, sir.
Mr. Plummer: Joe, is this the same members as the Cuban Foundation?
Mr. Dawkins: This your item, 51?
Mr. Plummer: Item 51. Check the board of directors. Mr. Manager, your're
recommending this? I am assuming you are indicating that this is surplus
space.
Mr. Odio: Yes, sir.
Mr. Plummer: It is not being used for any reasons of the City?
Mr. Odio: No, sir, it is not being used.
Mr. Plummer: As a revokable permit which means it can be revoked at any time?
Mr. Odio: Yes, sir.
Mr. Plummer: I move item 51, or I second it.
Mr. Carollo: Which foundation is this? You know we are getting so many
foundations nowadays.
Mrs. Kennedy: The president is right here, Maritza Herrera, she is in the
audience.
Mr. Plummer: I am assuming, Mr. Manager... hello, hello.
Mrs. Kennedy: We lost the Manager!
Mr. Carollo: Can we get the president to come up, get her name just for the
record, please?
Ms. Maritza Herrera: My name is Maritza Herrera.
Mr. Carollo: And your address, please?
Ms. Herrera: 18651 S.W. 127 Court, Miami, Florida, 33177.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Manager.
Mr. Odio: Yes, sir.
Mr. Plummer: Sir, I am assuming that they are going to be required to take
out proper insurance...
Ms. Herrera: Liability.....
Mr. Plummer: ... that indemnifies the City from any liability?
Mr. Odio: They have to comply with every City requirement.
Ms. Herrera: Yes.
Mr. Plummer: And they will have to, in fact, other than accepted wear and
tear on the building, they will have to assume the liability of upkeep and
maintenance and repairs.
Ms. Herrera: Also, we investing $18,000 in repairs, because in the condition
that the building is now, we cannot use the building.
Mr. Plummer: OK.
Ms. Herrera: We had to put a new roof and ceiling, doors... broken window,
had to replace all the windows. We had to put new air conditioning, new
floor, everything and the only reason we are accepting the condition of the
building is this is a challenge for the Nicaraguan community. This is the
first time that we are going to receive something and at least we are taking
this space.
123 April 9, 1987
Mr. Carollo: Can you tell us for the record, if you would, please, if this is
a nonprofit organization or not?
Ms. Herrera: Yes, sir.
Mr. Carollo: It is nonprofit? And whom are the registered directors or
officers of the corporation?
Ms. Herrera: The corporation?...
Mr. Carollo: No, I am asking since we don't have any other information on
them, I'd just like to know for the record.
Ms. Herrera: It is four Nicaraguans. We have on the board of directors David
Ascoski, Dr. Gaston Lacayo. We have Enrique Pereira, Rene Molina and myself.
We have an advisory board. The Mayor is on the advisory board. It is just an
advisory board and we have Luis Botifol. We have an advisory board...
Mr. Carollo: My question is, what activities are you going to be providing
there?
Ms. Herrera: OK, legal service to the Nicaraguans, orientation to community
services and job placement.
Mr. Carollo: Legal services, job placement, and what else did you say?
Ms. Herrera: Orientation to community services.
Mr. Carollo: Orientation to community services, right. What kind of monies
are you going to operate the office from? Do you have State grants, or...?
Ms. Herrera: No. Private donations from Nicaraguan people.
Mr. Carollo: Private donations.
Ms. Herrera: Yes.
Mr. Carollo: OK, so you are going to have a full time staff there?
Ms. Herrera: Yes.
Mr. Carollo: Every day?
Ms. Herrera: Yes.
Mr. Carollo: OK.
Ms. Herrera: And we have 15 volunteers in the Nicaraguan community, also.
Mr. Carollo: OK, what use does this space presently have, Mr. Manager?
Ms. Herrera: None. It is empty. It had 28 broken windows. They has a door
which has been vandalized.
Mr. Carollo: Yes, I haven't seen this, is why I am asking this.
Mr. Odio: It is not in use at all, Commissioner.
Mr. Carollo: It is not in use at all. What is the exact lbcation?
Mr. Plummer: Henderson Park.
Mr. Odio: Henderson Park.
Mr. Plummer: Third Street and loth Avenue, across from Victoria Hospital.
Mr. Carollo: OK, right. All right.
Ms. Herrera: Do you need more information?
Mr. Carollo: Excuse me?
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Ms. Herrera: Do you need any more information?
Mr. Carollo: That is about all that I wanted to get on the record right now.
This is going to be for how long?... for a one year period?
Mr. Odio: Every year it has to be renewed.
Mr. Plummer: Yes, but Joe, it is also a revokable permit, which means it can
be called at any time.
Mr. Carollo: That is correct, and it will be coming back to the Commission...
Mr. Manager, it will be coming back to the Commission on a yearly basis,
correct? On a yearly basis it will be coming back to the Commission? OK, I
just wanted to find that out. Thank you very much, Ma'am.
Mrs. Dougherty: No, that is not the way it is written. No.
Mayor Suarez: Any further discussion? Call the roll.
Mrs. Dougherty: It doesn't come back on a yearly basis.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Kennedy, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 87-343
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A
REVOCABLE USE PERMIT, IN A FORM ACCEPTABLE TO THE CITY
ATTORNEY, WITH THE NICARAGUAN AMERICAN FOUNDATION,
INC., FOR THE USE OF 1,118 SQUARE FEET OF OFFICE SPACE -
IN THE TENNIS CLUB BUILDING AT HENDERSON PARK, FOR A
ONE-YEAR PERIOD, RENEWABLE ANNUALLY AT THE CITY'S
DISCRETION, AT A YEARLY RENTAL OF $100.00.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jt.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
48. CITY TO SPONSOR A SCULPTURE CONTEST PLANNED BY COCONUT GROVE ART FESTIVAL
ASSOCIATION TO TAKE PLACE NEXT YEAR ON GROUNDS OF CITY HALL.
Mayor Suarez: There is a gentlemen here from Coconut Grove Association, which
is really a later item, but he wants to give a $10,000 contribution... Ben
Kuehne, is it... you don't look like Ben Kuehne
Ms. Terry Stone: I am not Ben Kuehne, I am Terry Stone, I am the executive
director of the Arts Festival Association. Joining me is Ben Kuehne,
president of the Festival Association: Rosalia Picot, who is a member of our
board; Bart Ketover, a member of our board, and Carlos Chialastri, who In
president of the Coconut Grove J.C.'s...
Mayor Suarez: You had to bring Carlos!
125 April 9, 1987
Ms. Stone: We had to bring... each one has $2,000 with them, that is why I
had to bring all of them. The 1987 Coconut Grove Arts Festival was the most
successful in our 24 year history. We wanted to say thank you to the City of
Miami, and we found two, we think, very exciting ways this year. The first
project that we undertook was the Coconut Grove Association in conjunction
with the J.C.'s. We, with the assistance of the City Manager's office had the
use of Dinner Key Auditorium. The Parks Department helped us coordinate it
and a private parking lot owned by Constructa U.S. was donated for our use.
We are very happy to formally present the City of Miami the first major
contribution to the City of Miami Adopt A Park program, with $10,000 for the
use of improvements, maintenance, upkeep, for parks in the City of Miami...
actually in Coconut Grove, at the discretion of the City of Miami Parks
Department.
Mayor Suarez: How about a little hand of applause here) (APPLAUSE)
Mr. Plummer: And you only use it for a weekend instead of 40 percent of the
time, right?
Ms. Stone: Right, and we pay more than $1.00 rent.
Mayor Suarez: Is the money hidden inside of the frame there?
Ms. Stone: I think that Walter Golby already has the check in hand.
Mayor Suarez: He's got the money already?
Ms. Stone: I think so.
Mr. Plummer: God forbidl Where is the check?
Mayor Suarez: Did he use it already?
Mr. Plummer: Who has got the check?
Mayor Suarez: Where is the check?
Ms. Stone: Actually, Chris Korge has it.
Mayor Suarez: Chris Korge has itl
Mr. Plummer: That's even worse!
Ms. Stone: Yes, it was put in an interest bearing account on February 18th,
so it is earning money for the Parks Department. Our second presentation to
the City is a further gift from the Festival Association, with our thanks to,
again, Constructs U.S., which is a new neighbor in Coconut Grove. They wanted
to do more than just give us the use of their parking lot, so they also
contributed $1,500 for a major award of distinction. The 1987 winner was
Duane Workman, and we are presenting the piece to the City of Miami, in the
hopes that it will be the first of an annual piece presented to hang in City
Hall, and this is at no cost, no decorator's fees involved, no framing
charges, free of charge from the Coconut Grove Arts Festival Association and
Constructs U.S.
Mr. Plummer: Is it true that that piece of art did not go in Rosario's
office?
Ms. Stone: It is blue to match the Chambers, and we hope it... and by the
way, our judge for this year, our head judge for this year 'vas the director of
the Smithsonian Institute's traveling exhibition, so it is a rather
prestigious piece, and we thank the City for your continuing support of the
Arts Festival.
Mr. Plummer: Hold on, whoa! That's nice. Cooperation is a two way street.
Mr. Manager, the Art Festival is one of the biggest events that this community
enjoys. This year, what... over a million plus!... a lot more than a million.
It is my understanding that this coming year is the silver anniversary, the
25th anniversary of that Art Festival. These people have taken cne lean, the
first real group that I know who have not come to this City to ask for funds
In the last two or three years and I think our hats should be off to them.
Not only did they not come and ask for money, as we have demonstrated here
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today, have brought us money! One of the things that they would like to do in
this coming year in their silver anniversary, is in fact, to have a sculpture
contest here at City Hall or on the ground of City Hall. I would hope that
this City would see fit to join hands with this group, and it is going to take
some funding... no, no, no, you can't hold her hands, her husband is herel...
but, I would like to make a motion at this time that the City of Miami enter
into an agreement with the Coconut Grove Art Festival for the City to
underwrite... and you will come back with the numbers... to underwrite the
sculpture portion of the contest for this coming year. That is a designated
idea, if it doesn't jell, and doesn't become a reality, we would not expend
the funds, but I just think that this City needs to turn around and say to
that festival, "Hey, for 25 years you have been a great thing to this
community. We realize you are going to be making a tremendous contribution
this coming year, and we the City of Miami want to be a part of it." So, I
offer a motion at this time that the City Administration, keeping in mind at
budget time, join hands with these people to come back and make a
recommendation to this Commission for our participation in that particular
phase of the Art Festival in this coming year, I so move.
Mrs. Kennedy: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded. I might add, that in the... before we take
a vote on this, I don't think there will be any dispute on it, that Coconut
Grove J.C.'s I know man the parking lots, where most of this money, if not
all, was raised, and they are considered to be number one in the nation, I
guess, in most of the categories.
Ms. Stone: The outstanding chapter in the United States.
Mr. Plummer: No commercials.
Mayor Suarez: Call the roll.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved
its adoption:
MOTION NO. 87-344
A MOTION AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO
ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH COCONUT GROVE ART
FESTIVAL ASSOCIATION FOR THE CITY'S SPONSORING OF A
SCULPTURE CONTEST PRESENTLY PLANNED TO TAKE PLACE NEXT
YEAR, ON THE GROUNDS OF CITY HALL.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Kennedy, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
Mayor Suarez: Thank you very much. Keep up the good work.
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: Thanks a lot.
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49. THANK CHANNEL 51 AND LATIN CHAMBER OF COMMERCE FOR DONATION OF VIDEO
PRESENTATION PROMOTING OUR COMMUNITY
Mrs. Kennedy: Item 77, I have just been handed a note, that they want to make
a donation of the video tape for the Latin Quarter. They have to leave. Can
we take them now?
Mayor Suarez: Oh, love to take those donations! Item 77.
Ms. Maria Cristina Barron: Good afternoon, I am Maria Cristina Barron, I am
here on the behalf of the Greater Miami Chamber of Commerce, as well as WSCB
TV Channel 51, and it is our pleasure today to present to you a video that was
done by the Greater Miami Chamber of Commerce with the cooperation of our
station for the purpose of helping in the development of the Latin Quarter.
This has been a project that has been going before this Commission over a
period of many years. Zoning was finally approved a few years ago, and the
Greater Miami Chamber of Commerce became directly involved in the board of the
Latin Quarter Association approximately two years ago. We determined that one
way that we could be most helpful was in creating a piece that could be used
by different organizations, chambers, City of Miami, City of Miami Planning
Department, to take and present to developers and other groups that could
possibly be interested in developing the Latin Quarter. So, its with a great
deal of pleasure that we present the video to you. It is a $20,000 project
that was done totally free for the Latin Quarter Association. With me, are
Sandy Gonzalez, who coordinated the project with the Greater Miami Chamber of
Commerce and Anita Rodriguez, who produced it, as well as Sergio Rodriguez and
Jose Casanova from the City of Miami who worked very hard on the project.
(NOTE: VIDEO PRESENTATION AT THIS POINT)
Ms. Barron: This tape is available to the City of Miami in English and in
Spanish. The Greater Miami Chamber of Commerce is taking it to Europe and to
South America this year on its tours to attract business to Miami. It will be
presented before all types of organizations, such as Latin Builders, and other
organizations. It will be available to organizations such as CAMACOL. Luis
Sabines is here. Luis has been a great promoter and an instigator of the
Latin Quarter Association. as have many other people that are here, or have
been here, today, and we just hope that you consider this donation a little
grain of sand in trying to build the Latin Quarter into what it should be; a
tourist attraction as well as a business center. Thank you.
Mr. Plummer: If we accept this, do we get editing privileges?
Ms. Barron: No, you're very good in that part.
Mr. Plummer: It wasn't me, it was the woman in the bucket.
Mayor Suarez: Thank you. Thank's to all of you. Very good.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I think a resolution from this commission would be in
order that we officially thank Channel 51 for their very generous donation in
behalf of this community and I so move.
Ms. Kennedy: Seconded. It's my pleasure.
Ms. Barron: And the Hispanic Affairs Committee of the Greater Miami Chamber
of Commerce. They brought that project to Channel 51. Thank you.
Mr. Plummers Who ever participated. Who ever participated, we thank those
people for.
Mr. Dawkins: I'd like to also go on record. I'd like to go on record to say
that I made a statement yesterday and I'm going to make it again today, you
know we put all of the manpower, all of the financial money, and all of
everything that we needed -------into a reaticy. At the same time, we
committed ourselves to Bayside, we committed ourselves to the Latin Quarter,
and we committed ourselves to Overtown Park West. And I want you to know that
this commission is going to see that the Latin Quarter be built and that we
develop Overtown Park West. I assure you of that.
128 April 9, 1987
Mayor Suarez: Absolutely. That resolution should include, of course, Latin
Chamber of Commerce who was instrumental in putting this together. So moved
and seconded. Any discussion? Call the roll.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved
its adoption:
MOTION NO. 87-345
A MOTION OFFICIALLY THANKING CHANNEL 51 AND THE HISPANIC
AFFAIRS COMMITTEE OF THE GREATER MIAMI CHAMBER OF COMMERCE
FOR THEIR GENEROUS DONATION OF A VIDEO PRESENTATION
PROMOTING OUR COMMUNITY.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Kennedy, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
50. EMERGENCY PURCHASE OF 2 REBUILT HYDROCRANES FROM SHELLEY TRACTOR AND
EQUIPMENT CO.
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Mayor Suarez: Item 52 and then we'll get to 53, I know Roger has to leave.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, we also have a request from Mr. Lauredo to take up
71. He has to leave and I told him I didn't think there would be much
problem.
Mr. Dawkins: We don't really need to, just tell him to leave.
Mayor Suarez: Could be a bad day, Luis, I don't know.
Mr. Plummer: Which item are we on?
Mayor Suarez: Fifty-two, then fifty-three, then we'll get to seventy-one and
try to keep going through these as quickly as possible.
Mr. Dawkins: Fifty-two. Move it.
Mayor Suarez: Moved.
Ms. Kennedy: What? What are we moving?
Mr. Plummer: Fifty-two, a hundred and twenty thousand dollars ...
Mr. Dawkins: For two rebuilt cranes which, they assure me, will work better
than one new one.
Mr. Plummer: How much do we pay for a new one?
Ron Williams: Approximately $114,000.
Mr. Plummer: I second the motion. For the cranes... it's ratifying.
Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded. Any discussion? Call the roll.
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The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Dawkins, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 87-346
A RESOLUTION RATIFYING, APPROVING AND CONFIRMING, BY A
4/5THS AFFIRMATIVE VOTE OF THE MEMBERS OF THE CITY
COMMISSION, THE ACTION OF THE CITY MANAGER THAT THE
REQUIREMENTS FOR FORMAL COMPETITIVE SEALED BIDS BE
WAIVED AND THAT THE EMERGENCY PURCHASE OF TWO 920
REBUILT HYDROCRANES FROM SHELLEY TRACTOR AND EQUIPMENT
CO. FOR THE GENERAL SERVICES ADMINISTRATION DEPARTMENT
IN THE PROPOSED AMOUNT OF $120,000.00 BE APPROVED;
FUNDS BEING ALLOCATED FROM THE SOLID WASTE COLLECTION
EQUIPMENT ACQUISITION PROJECT NO. 353001.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk —
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
— Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
51. APPROVE REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS FOR THE STATE PLAZA/MIAMI ARENA MIXED USE
PROJECT.
Mayor Suarez: Fifty-three. Are you going out for the RFP on the parking
garage with hotel and everything else?
Roger Carlton: Yes sir, Mr. Mayor, this includes ...
Mr. Plummer: I move item 53. Its just the RFP.
Mayor Suarez: And its right around a quarter loop from Bayside. Very close
to Bayside.
Mr. Dawkins: And in the middle of Overtown Park West.
Mr. Carlton: Yes, sir.
Mayor Suarez: Right.
Mr. Plummer: For the record, its only the RFP and we'll see when it comes
back whether we like it or we don't.
Ms. Kennedy: Move it.
Mr. Plummer: I already did.
Ms. Kennedy: Second.
Mayor Suarez: And there are certain incentives that will give Washington
Heights an extra chance here to win out the RFP. Any further discussion?
Call the roll.
130 April 9, 1987
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 87-347
A RESOLUTION APPROVING, IN CONCEPT, THE ISSUANCE OF A
REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS, IN SUBSTANTIALLY THE ATTACHED
FORM, FOR THE STATE PLAZA/MIAMI ARENA MIXED USE
PROJECT TO BE LOCATED ON PROPERTY CURRENTLY UTILIZED
FOR MUNICIPAL LOT NO. 10 AND GENERALLY BOUNDED BY
MIAMI AVENUE, N.W. FOURTH STREET, N. W. FIRST AVENUE,
AND N. W. FIFTH STREET IN THE CITY OF MIAMI NOTING
THAT THE PROPOSED MIXED USE CONCEPT WILL YIELD
SUBSTANTIAL PUBLIC BENEFIT TO THE CITY AND FURTHER
RECOGNIZING THAT THE PROPOSED REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL
MEETS THE INTENT OF CITY COMMISSION MOTION 87-50 WHICH
REQUESTED ALL FUTURE DEVELOPMENT -RELATED REQUEST FOR
PROPOSALS TO INCLUDE BONUS PROVISION WHEN COMMUNITY
BASED ORGANIZATIONS PARTICIPATE IN THE COMPETITIVE
BIDDING PROCESS.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Kennedy, the resolution was passed
and adopted. by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
52. DISCUSSION (VIDEO PRESENTATION) BY LUIS LAUREDO, DADE COUNTY COUNCIL OF
ARTS AND SCIENCES
Mayor Suarez: You wanted 71, Luis?
Mr. Luis Lauredo: Yes. Do you want to see another video?
Mr. Dawkins: Spare us, please.
Mr. Lauredo: We'll dispense with the video. It's too bad because ... Would
you like to see it, it's about four minutes?
Ms. Kennedy: Yes, Luis, we would like to see it.
Mr. Lauredo: Put it on.
Mr. Dawkins: See, you wouldn't have been able to come before the last mayor,
because he didn't allow porno movies.
Mr. Lauredo: That's why I didn't come before the last mayor. I know him
well.
Mr. Carollo: As long as we don't get the video mailed to us, we'll be okay.
Mr. Plummer: Yes, but the dog will sit down.
Mr. Carollo: You never know, he might stand up.
Mr. Plummer: My fear is, he might do other things.
Mr. Lauredo: J.L., you're not on this video, fortunately.
131 April 9, 1987
Mr. Plummer: That's good. Is Rosario? Then I don't feel slighted.
(NOTE: AT THIS TIME, THERE WAS A VIDEO PRESENTATION)
Mr. Lauredo: Mr. Mayor. Mr. Mayor, I promised you a four minute tape and so
it is now a four minute tape.
Mayor Suarez: You just cut off the last couple of minutes of the tape. Thank
you.
Mr. Lauredo: It was four minutes, Latin time. Mr. Mayor and commissioners,
first things first. My presentation today is strictly informative, it is not
going to cost you any money.
Mr. Plummer: We will assure you of that.
Mr. Lauredo: Today, anyway. The City of Miami and Dade County in general is
clearly lacking one big piece for it to become a major metropolitan area and
that's a cultural facility, performance facility of any significance. We've
known this for many years and the need has been identified by two very
expensive studies. One, of which you already have and which is the root of
this tape. Unfortunately, the good news is that we've developed so many
outstanding performing groups, that now the need is more critical than ever.
And particularly with what Tampa has done which is about to open, the biggest
performing arts center south of Washington, D.C., the Kennedy Center and I do
hope that on your next trip to Tampa, you see what they've done and they've
combined it with a brand new museum and an adjoining exhibition hall which is
part of their overall strategy to challenge Miami as the premier city in the
State of Florida. The study that we have has two fundamental stages; stage
number one we're undergoing right now and it is a very unique cooperative
effort between the City and the County. We at the Council of Arts and
Sciences, appointed by the county commission, which I chair, is leading the
fight to try to get ten million dollars to renovate Gusman Hall, which is a
City of Miami facility. So there is plenty of opportunities, I think, in the
arts for the two jurisdictions to work together. My purpose here today is to
ask two specific things: one, as it relates to Gusman Hall, since we're going
to face a very tough legislative year, I think we need, and I believe it's on
your legislative priority, we need to be able to have access to your lobbyist
in Tallahassee full time to help us through this difficult process. Number
two, I have named a committee which is the overall and primary goal of the
Council of the Arts to build a new facility, a world class architecturally
recognized facility and I have named a site selection committee, co-chaired by
myself, Parker Thompson and Charlie Swig, which will be making a very
difficult decision within the next few months. This process has always fallen
down in the past when we got to choices of site. And I warn you that we will
have to make, and hope that you will back us when that decision is made. The
reason it is relevant to you is because some of the sites being considered are
fundamentally divided into two. One, what this study recommends, which is the
acquisition of property which is currently in private hands between Biscayne
and Second Avenue, a corridor, and we need approximately one block. The rough
estimates is that any one of those blocks, especially since yesterday's
opening of Bayside, will probably not be attained for less than $25,000,000.
Consequently, there is enormous pressure to move towards a publicly held land.
As it relates to the City of Miami, we're considering, very seriously and the
study did consider it, and this committee is considering it very seriously,
either the FEC property ... wait, wait ... I'm saying its being considered,
studied, and probably already turned down. Watson Island, and I believe they
also looked at the actual Bicentennial Park. Be that as it may, I want you to
know that if my guess as one member of that committee is .that we'll probably
select one of those sites and since all of them are in City of Miami property,
and we will not be asking for bond money from the City of Miami to build it.
We will follow the model of Tampa where it will be county bonds with matching
private funds. I think that is unquestionably the missing link in this
community and today's presentation is merely to inform you and to entertain
any questions on this issue.
Ms. Kennedy: Luis, let me tell you the way I feel. I think that Miami has
r.�• t--� + - +�.« +« is a major city. That everyday more and more,
we acquire the image of being an international city. That being an
international city, we have to look at the arts as nonessential. I would also
like to see a cultural district and you and I should sit down and'talk. I've
132 April 9, 1987
talked to County Manager, Sergio Pereira, also and this is something that one
day, in the near future, I would like to bring in front of this commission.
Mr. Lauredo: I'm open and I....
Ms. Kennedy: This should be incorporated, also, in that district.
Mr. Lauredo: Commissioner, we're working on several cultural problems and you
ought to be applauded for what you've done for culture, some of which was
reflected today in the Coconut Grove Arts Festival. We're trying also to save
for a culture use as you know, the Navy annex. We feel that is a very
precious piece of property. But where we clearly have our priority for the
next, for 1992 to be exact, we've determined that the 500th anniversary
celebration of the discovery of the New World should be opened with a
magnificently designed Performing Arts Center. I don't think that we can
afford to go past this year to make that decision and to get the bonds on the
referendum in March of next year.
Ms. Kennedy: Have you looked, besides the properties that you mentioned in
your tape, at any other properties?
Mr. Lauredo: Well, the study which was an expensive study looked at all of
the properties. We are not bound by the study. In fact, the study
recommended something that I personally do not recommend, which is acquisition
of that corridor simply because of price. It is naive to think that we can
bond instead of building a facility for $50,000,000, the price will go up to
about eighty to ninety million dollars. The other only facility in public
lands that is being considered is Government Center. And to be honest with
you, commissioner, there are a lot of people that don't like that site because
it negates one of the fundamental premises of our efforts which is to make a
distinct architectural statement, very similar to the Sydney Opera House, so
that it will be the signature of Miami. And for that, most of the people are
biased towards waterfront, unobstructed view and, of course, the Government
Center is crowded among all those county buildings.
Mr. Plummer: I've got the ideal location. One Herald Plaza. I'm sure they
would like to do a community service.
Mr. Lauredo: Well, that's not waterfront.
Mr. Plummer: Yes, it is.
Mr. Lauredo: They already took the waterfront.
Mr. Plummer: No, no, no, no, no. Instead of.
Ms. Kennedy: He says, replace it.
Mayor Suarez: Thank you, Luis.
Mr. Lauredo: Thank you.
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53. DISCUSSION BY CARMEN MAINE OF ASOCIACION LOS VIEJOS UTILES (THE USEFUL
AGED)
Mayor Suarez: Okay, lets see if we can get through thesA quickly. Do you
have item 69? Okay, we'll take you out of turn so we can get this resolved
and then we'll go through the other items very quickly. Quite a few have been
withdrawn for those of you who are waiting. And a lot of others are
appointments to the board, so we'll be able to get through these •fairly
quickly from here on.
Mr. Carollo: Since you're taking it out of,order, then go back to the Watson
Island ...
Mayor Suarez: Yes, we'll take it.
Mr. Carollo: ... resolution that we had, then afterwards if you would...
133 April 9, 1987
Mayor Suarez: And I'm mindful of the fact that you have to leave at around
7:00, anyhow, right?
Mr. Carollo: Yes, I have to be out of here by 7:00.
Mayor Suarez: Carmen.
Ms. Carmen Maine: Thank you. Well, good afternoon Mayor and commissioners.
The reason I am here is to represent the ... Well, my name is Carmen Maine and
I am the executive director of the Useful Aged Association. I am here
requesting a raise in a grant that we already have from the City of Miami
through the Community Development. The amount of this grant is $150,000 to
reconstruct the association because really it is in very bad condition
economically.
Mr. Plummer: Are you asking for social service money?
Ms. Kennedy: Isn't Community Development having its hearing at the next ...
Frank Castaneda: Yes, yes, yes we are.
Mr. Plummer: They're having hearings on this.
Mr. Castaneda: We'll be at the city commission meeting and there will be a
public hearing here at the next meeting. Basically, what they are requesting
is a tremendous expansion of the funding from the City of Miami. Last year,
they received about $30,000, now they want $150,000.
Mr. Plummer: Yes, but what I'm saying to them, there is a regular process
that this goes through, of public hearings. And we can't hear one unless we
hear them all. When is the hearing scheduled for?
Mr. Castaneda: The second meeting in May.
Mr. Plummer: In May?
Mr. Castaneda: No, I'm sorry, in April. April 30th.
Mr. Plummer: The appropriate time to make your presentation is April the
30th.
Ms. Maine: Ah, well, okay.
Mr. Plummer: So that would be ...
Ms. Kennedy: Because we cannot just listen to you, Carmen, and not to the
rest.
Mr. Carollo: Well, let me just state this in the record. When they do go
before you, I want to make sure the staff gives careful consideration to the
proposals they're making. I think that this is one organization that has
shown that they spend their money very conscientiously and have done one heck
of a job in the program with the constraints they have now.
Ms. Maine: Thank you, Joe.
(Note: At this time, Commissioner Carollo makes a rather lengthy address in
Spanish.)
Ms. Maine: Thank you very much.
Mr. Dawkins: Okay, let me ask the Mayor to translate for me. I too want to
support them. Because I am one of the aged, I don't know how useful I am.
Mayor Suarez: COMMENTS IN SPANISH.
He. Maine: Don't worry I'm going to make you useful.
Mr. Plummer: Yeah, but under no circumstances, can that old man be useful.
134 April 9, 1987
(STATEMENTS IN SPAINSH ARE AGAIN USED BY MAYOR SUAREZ, MS. KENNEDY, AND MS.
MAINE. AGAIN, MET WITH APPLAUSE AND LAUGHTER)
Ms. Maine: This is the message: we're going to vote for all of you. Thank
you very much.
54. REQUEST AMENDMENT TO CHARTER REQUIRING PRIOR APPROVAL BY REFERENDUM
BEFORE ANY PERMANENT LEASE ON WATSON ISLAND CAN BE GRANTED
Mr. Dawkins: Joe, you have something next?
Mr. Carollo: Yes, if we could go back and take the item on Watson Island, the
resolution that is item 40 and if we could go ahead and do it together with,
take it up at the same time with item 84, the discussion concerning Watson
Island.
Ms. Kennedy: What number is that, Joe?
Mr. Dawkins: Forty and eighty-nine?
Mr. Carollo: Forty and eighty-four.
Mr. Dawkins: Go ahead, Joe.
Mr. Carollo: It's item 40 and 84. I think they go hand in hand.
Mayor Suarez: Item 40 and 84.
Mr. Carollo: Madame City Attorney. The resolution that we have before us,
does it include in the resolution, the appropriate safeguards of an RFP that
is going to guarantee that everyone is going to have the same opportunity for
an open bid?
Ms. Dougherty: This resolution does not. However, your law already does.
And, furthermore, your specific charter amendment of the last time makes a
further safeguard for the leasing the property.
Mr. Carollo: I realize that but I would like for it to in the way it would
appear in the ballot, to be spelled out as clearly as possible for the
citizens of Miami.
Ms. Dougherty: This resolution simply directs me, to, at the appropriate
_ time, that is no less than 45 days and no more than 120 days, come back with
you with the specific language that will have all of your safeguards in it.
Mr. Carollo: Can we include in this resolution the specific request from you
to come back at the next commission meeting with the specific wording that we
are going to place on the November agenda, the November elections.
Ms. Dougherty: Yes, but you can't pass it formally. You can approve the
language and then we'll put it in formal ...
Mayor Suarez: Put it in process for ...
Ms. Dougherty: We'll put it in formal ballot form at a later date.
Mr. Carollo: Right. It takes at least 60 days before, right?
Ms. Dougherty: No less than 45 and no more than 120.
Mr. Carollo: Okay, no more than 120. Well, can you make sure that you find
out which is the 120th day so that we could bring it up for the first reading
at the first available meeting when we can according to law.
Me. Dougherty: Yes air.
Mr. Carollo: In the meantime, if you could work on the wording and bring that
up at the next commission meeting, if you would.
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Ms. Dougherty: Yes sir.
Mr. Plummer: Joe, did you address that problem that I brought to your
attention about the present leaseholders there?
Mr. Carollo: That was made clear, I think, that ...
Mr. Plummer: That they're excluded.
Mr. Carollo: In as far as any city project, that the City of Miami itself,
not with anyone else, but the City of Miami itself, would do their - would not
be included.
Mr. Plummer: Okay, the ...
Mr. Carollo: Now inasfar as when 'you say, any present leases, I think we
should spell out exactly, which of the leases we have. Beyond that, that does
not include any temporary leases, it includes long term leases, correct?
Mr. Plummer: Okay, the call that I received was from the yacht club. They
are, in fact, on a year to year basis. Their concern would be that if their
lease would be renewed that they would have to go to a referendum. I told
them that I did not think that that was the intent. But that would, likewise,
affect the Outboard Club, who is on the same basis, and I don't think that
that really was the intent because we do have one year options on these clubs
that are there, and which we can take them back over at the end' of that one
year contract. I think that has to be given some consideration. I'll speak
for one. It was never my intent, when I seconded your motion before of a
_ referendum which I think is very good, that I just didn't feel that that was
even included but they wanted to make sure so Madam City Attorney, I'm
speaking for one.
Mr. Carollo: I wouldn't mind if we put wording in that resolution for the
charter amendment that if we would include the wordage that it would not
include those two organizations. That they will still come every year before
the City Commission.
Mr. Plummer: I'm just bringing that to your attention. It needs to be
discussed.
Mr. Odio: I have just been informed by Gilchrist that any leases on Watson
Island have to be approved by the cabinet also.
Mr. Carollo: Well, it has to pass a tremendous process, but, beyond that, I
want it to pass the ultimate test and that is, the approval or disapproval of
the people of Miami.
Mr. Plummer: Okay.
Mayor Suarez: Is that in the form of a motion? Do we need a motion?
Mr. Carollo: I will make it in the form of a motion.
Ms. Kennedy: Do we need a motion?
Mr. Plummer: I seconded it before, I'll second it again.
Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded. Any discussion? Call the roll.
Mr. Plummer: This is on both 40 and 84?
Mr. Carollo: No, this is just on 40; 84 is a different item.
Mr. Plummer: Okay.
Mr. Carollo: It's related to this though.
136 April 9, 1987
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Carollo, who moved
its adoption:
MOTION NO. 87-348
A MOTION INSTRUCTING THE CITY ATTORNEY TO DRAFT AN
AMENDMENT TO THE CITY CHARTER REQUIRING PRIOR APPROVAL
BY THE ELECTORATE AT A REFERENDUM BEFORE ANY PERMANENT
LEASE ON WATSON ISLAND CAN BE GRANTED; FURTHER
REQUESTING THE CITY ATTORNEY TO HAVE THE PROPER
WORDING OF SAID AMENDMENT BY THE NEXT COMMISSION
MEETING TO BE PLACED ON THE NOVEMBER ELECTION.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
Ms. Kennedy: Mr. Mayor, I have been advised there are a number of people here
who are sick and they're here on the AIDS item, which is number 68.
Mayor Suarez: Please, number sixty-eight.
Mr. Carollo: Okay, if we could go on the 84 item - the discussion.
Mayor Suarez: Okay, I'm sorry. Just wait. Give us a couple of minutes. See
if we can get item 84 resolved since it's related to item 40.
Mr. Carollo: For the last six months or so, there's been a tremendous lot of
talk I've been hearing about the same group that have presented back in April
of last year, the old Watson Island plan, they wanted to have a 500,000 square
foot of convention space for marine show year 'round, etc. I'd like to read
the following statements to the records and what I'm trying to find out is
exactly what is going on and if there is a group out there that still wants to
make a new proposal or not or bring back an old proposal. If I may read from
the newspaper, Miami Today, of the week of Thursday. October 23, 1986, and it
quotes Mr. Tom Meuller, project manager for the Worldwide Corporation of
Bechtel, with the following statement - it's supposed to have been an
interview, by phone, that he gave from his San Francisco office and it says
the following, " ... Bechtel hasn't given up on Watson Island." And it quotes
him as saying "We're still very hopeful Watson Island will come back," he
said, "Maybe with the same team, the fundamental principle is sound. I think
it would be great if the City calls up John Meyer, the developer behind the
Watson Island plan and says, let's get this thing going; we've wasted enough
time."
Mr. Plummer: What's the date on that?
Mr. Carollo: Week of Thursday, October 23, 1986. Then, the Miami News of
Tuesday, November 18, 1986, the distinguished reporter for the Miami News,
Bill Gjebre, has the story that says, " ... Suarez said he favored the
proposed marine complex and was hopeful the plan could be. resurrected." Now,
after these two articles, I was approached by two different individuals who
stated to me that Mr. Avela, in one instance and in the other instance that it
knows Mr. Avela's brother were still very much interested in bringing back
this famous Watson Island proposals in bringing it before the city commission.
But their concern was how this commissioner felt and the fact that maybe it
would be getting too close to election time again and they didn't want to
bring it up that close to election time. My questions, I guess they have to
be directed both to the Mayor and the administration, and that is: What do
you all know of this same group wanting to bring this propmmal n- -"r
the same individuals, or part of these individuals that were involved, if it
In, in fact, their intentions to try to bring this proposal or not?
137 April 9, 1987
Mayor Suarez: I don't know anything about any proposal. What groups out
there may be thinking, to use your wording, commissioner, is something that
I'm not ...
Mr. Plummer: He's basically asking, "Do you know of any proposal by the old
group from Watson Island reliving."
Mr. Carollo: Have you been approached by anyone?
Mayor Suarez: Wait, wait. But I do - I have seen one very interesting
proposal made in the Miami News by Howard Kleinberg with which I intend to
agree, which is the idea that maybe a Performing Arts Center to be located on
Watson Island. Beyond that, I've told them informally that I thought it was a
good idea, at least superficially. I wouldn't - you know I haven't even ...
Mr. Odio: The administration has not received any proposal, either verbally
or in writing, at this time.
Mr. Carollo: Is anyone in the administration being talked to by any of these
other people that were involved in the Watson Island crusade.
Mr. Odio: The only other person could be Gilchrist. I have not been
approached. I'll ask Gilchrist.
Mr. Carollo: Is John around still here?
Mr. Odio: I know I have not been approached.
Mr. Carollo: John.
Mr. Odio: And if I was, I'd start running.
Mr. Carollo: You're up at bat. Ninth inning, two outs. John, we're trying
to find out if any of the individuals that were involved in the last year's
Watson Island crusade, if any of them have approached you or anyone in the
city in order to try to bring this proposal back.
John Gilchrist: They have not approached me directly in any way, any of the
people involved in the most recent proposal for that, sir.
Mr. Plummer: What about indirectly?
Ms. Kennedy: Indirectly?
Mr. Gilchrist: Well, I've heard indirectly they have some interest in it but
that's hearsay, that doesn't ...
Mr. Carollo: When you say, indirectly, ... What have you heard indirectly ...
Mr. Gilchrist: Well, I think that the people involved in that may have an
interest if it comes up ever again for an RFP to be reconsidered, that's all.
I believe that's what it is, commissioner.
Mr. Carollo: Thank you, John. I appreciate it. I won't put you on the spot
any more.
Mr. Gilchrist: Surely. No, it's not. I've not had any direct conversation
with them.
Mr. Carollo: Xavier, this November 18th Miami News article, it quoted you as
saying you were hopeful that the plank be resurrected. Any particular
indications for you making that statement? Which says you were "hopeful".
Mr. Odio: Look, commissioner, I want to put this on the record. John,
Mayor Suarez: I remember the article, I think they made some kind of
reference, by the way, to the marina expansion which I think, if the experts
tell us is a good idea, might still be a very good idea at some point, whether
pit be done by the City or someone else.
i
Mr. Odio: He just made a statement to me. I think I want that on the record
so that there is no misunderstanding. l
138 April 9, 1987
Mr. Gilchrist: Okay, as you know, we're moving forward with the development
of a histQric fire station into a restaurant and we deal with John Meyer, he
is the developer of that. He's indicated to me that if he believes he has
some right, if this ever goes out into an RFP again, that's why I was saying
it's an indirect ...
Mr. Carollo: Okay, but he stated to you that he believes he has some rights
...
Mr. Gilchrist: He has some rights in that, yes sir.
Mr. Carollo: Well, Madame City Attorney, since this is also one of the rumors
that I've heard, can you state, for the record, if you believe that Mr.
Meyer's has any rights, or any of those people that were involved with him, if
this is ...
Mayor Suarez: She's already given that opinion quite a few times, if fact.
Ms. Dougherty: No sir, I don't believe he has any rights to develop the
island.
Mr. Carollo: Okay, can you give us a written legal opinion on that. If we
ever place out any kind of RFP again in the future, this commission, or any
future commissions, if Mr. Meyers or his group would have any rights, as he is
apparently under the misconception that he does.
Ms. Dougherty: We'll provide it for you.
Mr. Carollo: I understand that, you know the, when these statements were
made, for instance October 23rd of last year and November 18th of last year,
when some of the same people that were involved with some other adventures of
trying to remove members of this commission out of here through the back doors
since they can't do it through the front door, were hopeful that there would
be a change in the commission. But since Mr. Has Canosa's ideas did not come
out to being the realities that he was so convinced they were going to be, I
see now why they have changed gears in this whole thing. But I just wanted to
bring this whole thing out in the open and find out exactly what was going on
this. Apparently, you know, it certainly appears that, at least this year,
nothing is going to come before this commission. At least not before the
November, 187, election. The one thing that does appear certain that will
come up will be that the people of Miami are going to have the opportunity to
vote on Watson Island in the November election.
55. CITY MANAGER TO STUDY POSSIBILITY OF ASSISTANCE TO "CURE A.I.D.S. NOW
(See label #57)
Mayor Suarez: Item 68. Is it 68?
Mr. Dawkins: Will 87 come up?
Mayor Suarez: We have some sick people. Let's do 68 real quick. What's the
other item?
Mr. Bob Kunst: My name is Bob Kunst at 525 W. 49th Street, Miami Beach. I'm
director of Cure AIDS Now.
Mayor Suarez: I presume you're not being paid to make an appearance today.
Mr. Kunst: No air, no yet, hopefully. But I'm here to talk to you ...
Mayor Suarez: If you even have the intention of being paid, you have to
register with the City, so state for the record that you're not being
compensated.
Mr. Kunst: I'm not being paid, yes air. I'm here to talk to you about a
medical emergency and I'd first like to introduce some people here: Marlene
Arribas, who is in charge of our operations; Serge Duarte, who is in charge of
139 April 9, 1987
our programming; Enrique Arribas, who is doing our "Meals on Wheels", and we
have five other members who are part of the AIDS community, including Mr. Jim
Quinn, who is head of the AIDS getting well support group that has at least
100 members in it. I'm here to talk to you about a medical emergency that's
completely out of control that is a crisis in our own community that is not
being addressed at all and we need to have your full concentration. I hope
each one of you have received a copy of our brochure ...
Mayor Suarez: Trying to figure out when and if we ...
Mr. Kunst: It was delivered Monday and I have spoken with several
commissioners previous although I tried to reach everybody in advance about
this whole problem. Let me just give you a little overview quickly of what
the crisis is. Internationally, the World Health Organization predicts 100
million people within the next five years will have the AIDS virus - we're
talking about HIV, not HIV II or HTLV I and other viruses mutating in hundreds
of directions that 91 countries are willing to admit to right now, but which
is completely out of control. In the United States today, they are admitting
to 43,000 potential people; 20,000 Americans who have already died. The
problem is actually probably half of what's going on because of under
reporting because of discrimination, insurance, family reasons, and the fact
that hospitals and medical people just don't want to talk about it. Then you
have to multiply times ten the number of pre -AIDS cases. So, in the United
States today, we're anywhere between three hundred to seven hundred thousand
people today that have the AIDS virus doubling annually. If you saw the Miami
Herald on April 6th, you see that New York hospitals have already completely
underestimated their problem; there are one-third cases today than they
predicted five years from now. Let me give you Dade County's horror. And, by
the way, all of these cases now are doubling every nine months to a year. In
Dade County, we have a thousand cases ...
Mayor Suarez: That's called explanation growth.
Mr. Kunst: Unfortunately, we don't want to deal on this level, but is the
reality we :oust contend with. We have a thousand cases that they're willing
to admit to times 10 for pre -AIDS cases and if that's only half of what's
going on as an underestimated issue, Miami right now is the fourth largest
community in the United States with AIDS cases. We're anywhere between 11,000
to 22,000 cases today, doubling every nine months. We have more babies at
Jackson Memorial Hospital with AIDS right now than the entire State of Florida
has experienced in overdoses of crack and we have more babies with AIDS in
Dade County alone than the entire State of California, which is number two in
AIDS cases. Now, in case anyone doesn't understand what's happening, I want
to clear up some misinformation, please. I'd appreciate if we could have a
little silence in this whole thing. Right now in Dade County, 45% of all
cases are heterosexual. Dade County, which is supposed to be the drug capital
of the planet; we have less drug use here, believe it or not, than the
national average. The national average is 172; Miami its only 142. What's
going on here? On heterosexual spread here, we have 232 on sexual
heterosexual spread compared to a national 4%. We're six times the national
average. Forty-five percent of the cases, almost 46% of the cases, are black
non -Hispanic, that's double the national average. Twenty-four percent of the
cases are Hispanic; that's double the national average. We have a crisis and
a half. Now our Cure AIDS Now group, and I just want to tell you a couple of
the people who are board members, one is Dr. Lionel Resnik, who is the number
one tester of AIDS virus in the world and who's got key laboratories at Mt.
Sinai Medical Center on Miami Beach; the other is Dr. Mark Whiteside who is
head of Institute of Tropical Medicine. Dr. Whiteside has been advocating for
a long while that HGLV I, mosquito related, which is now being embraced by Dr.
Gallo at the National Institute of Health. The Institute of Tropical Medicine
also has one of the satellite AIDS testing facilities in the County. These
are just several of our board members. What we have found in the last three
years is not only is this issue of a medical emergency not being properly
addressed by a whole bunch of politics being thrown into it, but the problem
is so exacerbating and we have been running all over the place trying to
figure out what the handle is. On a federal level, right now, the
administration is only offering 4534,000,000 in spite of the fact that the
National Council of Scientists has recommended two billion annual expenditure.
To give you an example of the - ' - , ' ' u.1! ! only see
600 overdoses nationwide, the administration and Congress has passed
$lp700,000,000. But on AIDS, which 20,000 Americans are already dead,
doubling annually, $534,000,000. In the State of Florida, the Governor's task
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force has recommended $22,000,000 to be spent this year. Unfortunately,
Governor Martinez has not caught the message and is only offering seven and a
half million dollars which is a hundred thousand dollars less than last year
in spite of the fact we have douole bra n%unoer of cases. And the City of New
York, which has 8 times Miami's rate, ...
Mayor Suarez: Mr. Kunst, are you asking this commission to fund some kind of
program?
Mr. Kunst: Yes.
Mayor Suarez: I gather from the letter, which I had not paid close attention
to ...
Mr. Kunst: Yes, I'm getting right to it.
Mayor Suarez: ... you're giving us a lot of interesting statistics on what
everybody else is doing, we ...
Mr. Kunst: I promise you, okay.
Mr. Odio: They have requested *50,000.
Mayor Suarez: Which will go through our community development block grant
process ...
Mr. Odio: We have recommended ...... they did not —they came at additional
funding. We have no social service funds left so ...
Mayor Suarez: Is it too late for them to go through the CDBG process?
Mr. Odio: For next year, no. They wanted the money now.
Mayor Suarez: Its a food and health program which is two of our highest
priorities.
Mr. Kunst: This is a medical emergency right now.
Mr. Odio: But they wanted the money now. From this year, not for next year.
They want it now. Now, we have no funds left.
Mayor Suarez: Well, but next year begins October 1st, right?
Mr. Odio: Well, they want the funds now. And if not, they would have to go
through the process and the board.
Mayor Suarez: Right.
Mr. Plummer: Bob, have you gone to•the Public Health Trust? That's the name
of the game down here.
Mr. Kunst: We have gone to a lot of different agencies .. I want to tell you
what's happening. The point In that everyone thinks its someone elses'
problem and somebody else is expendable ...
Mr. Plummer: No, no, no.
Mr. Kunst: ... but I want to tell you what we're dealing with right now.
We've delivered now, since January 26th, six hundred meals. We're only
handling, right now, twenty people. But that's not the problem. The problem
is so severe in the Hispanic and Haitian communities and the block
communities, its completely out of control. The reason why we have not gone
public with this whole problem is because we don't have the staff, we don't
have the funds, we don't have the meals. Right now we're getting meals
donated= previously from Daniels restaurant, 500 meals. We now have LB's
restaurant, the Atrium and the Jewish Vocational Services that are giving us
food but we want to do the service, we want to help you because there is a
tidal wave of crisis that is about ready... it is already here. We are just
discovering the mess. Half the people that we are seeing right now are not
even registered with Jackson Memorial. There are people in the downtown area
right there at Camillus House, the place is satiated with A.I.D.S. cases and
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all we are hearing about is sex, sex, sex, we baven't even touched the dope
issue and the bad needle issue and really what is going on in this town here.
Here is a major, major crisis, and it has all been ignored. There is a lot of
bluff, it is a lot of fluff, and nc
approach the United Way people, on meals on wheels, they said: "Well, come
down six months down the pipe." We don't have time for six months down the
pipe. We are feeding people every single day who are running in and out of
hospitals, dying on our hands and we are trying to do a service that is going
to help you and we need the money now, and not to be diverted into any other
camp. We are going to go to every agency in town to ask for money, but I can
tell you aright now, the City of New York alone has put up $64,000,000 and the
Federal government has put up five times that much just to handle that crisis
and they are totally under -funded. This City has not put up a single penny.
The County has not put up a penny.
Mayor Suarez: The City of New York is not comparable in any sense, because
they handle all social services and they don't have the multiplicity of
jurisdictions that we have got here.
Mr. Kuntz: But what we are saying right now is, we need help immediately. We
want to help you to get a foothold on this crisis, because we are facing a
tidal wave. Even if we can accommodate... —
Mayor Suarez: But you said that, you said that. Now you are...
Mr. Kuntz: All right, I hope you are listening.
Mayor Suarez: ... repeating yourself.
Mrs. Kennedy: Bob, let me ask you... this is a very serious problem and this
sounds like a very good thing that we desperately need, but who is going to be
running this program?
Mr. Kuntz: All right, our Cure A.I.D.S. Now has a staff of people that is
already doing it. We have a list of about 20 volunteers that are already
available. We hope to multiply that on many levels, we want to not limit it
into any part of the community, we want it for the total community. We also
want to do an education program within the total community in Creole and
Spanish and what have you. There's major problems here!
Mrs. Kennedy: Is this a nonprofit organization?
Mr. Kuntz: Yes. You know, there is not even a single adult congregate living
facility in this community. Do you know that there are A.I.D.S. patients
hanging around Jackson Memorial Hospital, lying in the streets? I could give
you so many problems of what is going on and what is being ignored and not one
agency in this town has been willing to handle it, so we are coming to you
first. Please don't take it personal, but we are here to ask for your
cooperation so that we can start somewhere and then go with your help and
support to every other agency and say, "All right, this is what the commitment
is going here now, and this is what we need from you, and we can coordinate
this thing here." And I want to tell you, in a couple of years time, two to
four years time, we are going to have New York's problems in terms of number
of cases, and if we had a dozen agencies in Dade County, handling this
problem, it is not going to be enough. We are just trying to start something
before it is too late, and it may already be.
Mrs. Kennedy: Right, but even if we give you the $50,000, it would be like a
drop in the bucket. It would take a County effort.
Mr. Kuntz: It is an important drop in the bucket, because you are going to
set the motion for everyone else to be responsible for a change. We need your
$50,000 to buy the food, to coordinate the meals, to have full time drivers,
to help have a full time staff with this thing here. Believe me, trying to
run an operation like this on voluntarism is very intense, it is very
difficult, and this could only help the City of Miami to finally come to
recognition what the problem is.
Mayor Suarez: OK, thank you, Bob. What is the Commission's pleasure?
Mr. Plummer: I hate to say it, but Bob, this is a County problem. First of
all, we don't have the money. The money of social services is gone. We will
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not be even addressing it until next month, to start into the hearings.
Social welfare problems and public health is Dade County. That is why they
are Big Brother. Now, I just don't know how this Cit.v with ottr t;n,itorj
resources can be involved.
Mrs. Kennedy: Mr. Manager...
Mr. Plummer: Excuse me?
INAUDIBLE BACKGROUND COMMENTS NOT ENTERED INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD.
Mr. Plummer: Sir, I am not saying that at all, and...
INAUDIBLE BACKGROUND COMMENTS NOT ENTERED INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD.
Mr. Plummer: Yes, I understand that, sir, OK?... but I also understand where
there is a responsibility to respond. We have our obligations in our City, as
well as Metropolitan Dade County has their obligations and... have you
appeared before Dade County Commission?
Mr. Kuntz: No, we are going to, but I don't want to leave this up to Dade,
anymore than anybody else. The point is, you have to do your share like
everyone else has to do their share.
Mr. Plummer: Well, we pay our share, 27 percent of every tax dollar that is
raised in Dade County comes from the City of Miami. That's why... -
Mr. Kuntz: That is right, but I am willing to bet that you have 60 percent of
the A.I.D.S. cases and you haven't put up a single penny for that issue.
Mr. Plummer: Well, I am not going to argue with you. It is just the idea
that we just don't have the money! I don't know what to tell you.
Mrs. Kennedy: Mr. Manager, what could we do?
Mr. Odio: I recommend no funding at this time, Commissioner. Really, it is
an obligation of Dade County to provide this kind of service.
Mr. Plummer: What are you talking about, 20 meals a day?
Mr. Kuntz: No, no, what we are saying is, there are hundreds of meals that we
want to deliver to within the City limits. We don't have the resources. There
are people there who are starving to death.
Mr. Plummer: Well, no, no, we have people already who deliver meals on
wheels.
Mr. Kuntz: Not to anybody with A.I.D.S. in this community.
Mr. Plummer: Would you let me finish?
Mr. Kuntz: Yes, sir.
Mr. Plummer: OK? And if we did have dollars, I am sure we would go with an
organization that has the facilities, the delivery and everything, OK, and
they would do the delivery service and we would not have to contact with you,
because you don't have the organization, they are already set up and we're
serving "X" number of meals every day, through social services.
Mr. Kuntz: Why aren't they doing it?
Mr. Plummer: Well, I can't answer that because it is mostly for the elderly.
Mr. Kuntz: It is mostly for the elderly. Well, let's talk about the reality,
what is going on in this community. When we go to a hotel in Miami Beach...
Mr. Plummer: Bob, we are all very much aware, I...
Mr. Kuntz: No, you are not aware, Mr. Plummer. I want to suggest something
here, OK?
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Mr. Plummer: Even with the numbers that are used, we understand there is a
crisis. Not even with the projections that you may or may not be right with.
Mr. Kuntz: I am not giving you any figures that don't exist. I am giving you
all Public Health Department figures.
Mr. Odio: Could we pass a resolution urging the County to listen, to try to
resolve their problem.
Mr. Plummer: Well, that is passing the buck, Mr. Manager.
Mayor Suarez: I'll vote once again to submit to the Community Development
process. It won't get you the money right now and it conceivably might not
even get it to you in October, or whenever we approve it, but it may very
well. It is a food program for people who have extreme medical problems,
unsolvable medical problems, and those are our criteria, We don't have the
money right now, at least we are beginning the process which happens to be
right now, and which will be funded in October.
Mr. Kuntz: I'd like to see this City make some sort of commitment financially
right now.
Mayor Suarez: I know what you would like to see. That is what I would be
willing...
Mr. Kuntz: It is not just me, it is a question of what is morally responsible
here.
Mayor Suarez: I am sorry, Bob, that is what I would be willing to back, just
so the rest of the Commission knows my views.
Mr. Kuntz: I would like to ask the City if you would consider waiving fees
for any of the City facilities to do fund raising behind this project, whether
it would be...
Mrs. Kennedy: Where are you going to be having them?
Mr. Kuntz: Wherever, Dinner Key, or downtown or over at the marina,
Miamarina.
Mr. Dawkins: To buy food and services...
Mr. Kuntz: That is right.
Mr. Dawkins: ...or will it go for salaries?
Mr. Kuntz: No, buying food and services and dealing with education. I want
to ask you something. Can I just ask you all one question here?
Mayor Suarez: It might hurt your cause.
Mr. Dawkins: I won't guarantee you will get an answer, but you can ask it.
Mayor Suarez: It might hurt your cause.
Mr. Kuntz: OK.
Mr. Dawkins: No, no, ask your question, Bob.
Mr. Kuntz: We're dealing with a crisis that is out of control. People have
not an iota idea of what we are facing. Today's young teenagers, 80 percent
of the guys have sex all the time, 70 percent of the women have sex all the
time, we don't even have an information program in Creole or Spanish or
English in this community to tell anybody how to deal on a safer sex approach,
let alone the other crisis going on, and there are thousands of Americans now
that have gotten A.I.D.S. that have nothing to do with bad needles or bad
blood or bad sex. Now, we are dealing with a problem that we are trying to
help you with, because you are going to be faced with this.
Mr. Dawkins: Bob, you are trying to help us. We are trying to help you as
much as... and I am tired of you telling me about you trying to help me, OK?
You are not trying to help me. We are trying to address a problem in Dade
County.
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Mr. Kuntz: Where is the address?
Mr. Dawkins: And quit throwing the blame on the City of Miamil We, me, you,
and everybody else here, is attempting to address a Dade County problem, and
quit telling me you are trying to help me, the City of Miami, because that is
irritating to me, and it is getting me very ticked off, OK? That's number
one, OK? Number two, I would love to address our problems, OK? I got runaway
teenage pregnancies. I've got high unemployment. I've got no health care,
including these individuals, OK, to address. I've got senior citizens who
can't eat, OK? I've got day care centers I can't provide, OK? All of that is
for us to dol
Mr. Kuntz: And...?
Mr. Dawkins: And you come down here and you want me drop everything and hand
you something that can't be done.
Mr. Kuntz: I didn't ask you to drop everything.
Mr. Plummer: Plus the fact Bob, last year...
Mr. Dawkins: It can't be donel
Mr. Plummer:... we were cut 36 percent in the Federal money that we had the
year previous... 36 percent cutl Now, that's the problem that we are having.
We can't even face up to those that we committed to last year.
Mr. Dawkins: Now, where are these gentlemen housed?... ladies and gentlemen,
that is.
Mr. Kuntz: Let's ask. That is a great question, where are they housed?
Mr. Dawkins: I'm asking. How the hell do I know. You're the one that has the
answer.
Mr. Kuntz: I am telling you that there are people in the streets. There are
some people that are being taken care of, there other people being abandoned.
Mr. Dawkins: How do we address the issue of attempting to identify someone
who will provide meals for them?
Mr. Kuntz: Why don't you deal with our organization which has a handle on it?
Mr. Dawkins: Why the hell should I when I've got one created?
Mr. Kuntz: You don't have one that is responsible. I can tell you right
now...
Mr. Dawkins: All right...
Mr. Kuntz: Wait a minute, Mr. Dawkins.
Mr. Dawkins: ... I move that this be deferred, I mean be sent to...
Mr. Kuntz: Wait a minute, I want to speak.
Mr. Dawkins: I move...
Mayor Suarez: No, no more arguments.
Mr. Dawkins: I move that this be, since I can't seem to get through to Mr.
Kuntz, let him deal with the City Administration and the City Administration
bring a recommendation back to me. I hate to do this, this is nothing but an
exercise in futility, because the are going to come back and tell me what I
got to do, what I already know. But since I don't seem to be able to deal
with you and you just seem to be yelling and screaming, I move that this be
given to the Administration.
Mayor Suarez: So moved, does that include going through the Community
Development application process?
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Mr. Dawkins: Yes.
Mayor Suarez: So moved.
Mr. Plummer: Well, they have got to do that. I'll second the motion.
Mayor Suarez: Seconded. Any discussion? Call the roll?
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Dawkins, who moved
its adoption:
MOTION NO. 87-349
A MOTION REFERRING TO THE CITY MANAGER REQUEST FOR
ASSISTANCE RECEIVED FROM REPRESENTATIVES OF "CURE
A.I.D.S. NOW"; FURTHER REQUESTING THE MANAGER TO COME
BACK WITH A RECOMMENDATION.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
Mayor Suarez: Thank you for your presentation, Bob.
56. EXECUTE CONTRACTS WITH COMMUNITY BASED ORGANIZATIONS (See label #44)
Mayor Suarez: You had an item that you wanted to...?
Mr. Dawkins: Yes, item 87, please.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, while these people on item 87 are getting their acts
together, I stand corrected on item 45 in trying to get that forced before
the Community Development Board. These are from last year's funds and have
already been before the board. At this particular time, recommended by the
Administration, I move that item 45 be adopted.
Mr. Dawkins: Second.
Mayor Suarez: So moved and seconded. Those are non-social services?
Mr. Plummer: Yes, from last year.
Mayor Suarez: Any further discussion? Call the roll on 45?
Mr. Plummer: Wait, you got a question on item 45?
Mr. Dawkins: You been waiting on 45?
Mr. Plummer: Are you here on 45, sir?
Mr. Carlos Batista: Yes, Commissioner Plummer.
Mr. Plummer: I am sorry, I thought it was...
Mayor Suarez: I wasn't aware of that either.
Mr. Plummer: What is your name and who do you represent, sir?
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Mr. Carlos Batista: I am Carlos Batista, representing the Downtown Miami
Business Association. You took roe here a little bit by surprise.
Mr. Plummer: What is your problem?
Mr. Batista: Our problem is that the recommendation by the committee was to
provide it as a loan.
Mr. Plummer: No, no
Mr. Castaneda: Yes, Commission, let me explain. The first recommendation is
to give $50,000 to tie Downtown Miami Business Association to help promote
downtown, especially in light of Bayside, but the committee recommended that
the money be given as a loan to Downtown Miami Business Association, but they
would prefer it to be a grant.
Mr. Plummer: No, sir. That's $50,000... this Commission has already approved
that $50,000 in a grant. We already approved that, Mr. Managert I brought
the motion before this Commission, in a grant, not a loan.
Mr. Dawkins: Don't you gentlemen leave, sit down.
Mayor Suarez: I could have sworn that we approved the $50,000.
Mr. Plummer: It was a grant.
Mayor Suarez: Was it just a regular budget, the operating budget, is that
what it was?
Mr. Plummer: No, sir, they brought it to my attention. I brought it before
this Commission. I modify item 45 that it be in the form of a grant.
Mayor Suarez: OK, so modified. Did we vote on it already, Madam City Clerk?
Mr. Plummer: No.
Mayor Suarez: OK, call the roll. Does the second...
Mr. Dawkins: Second.
Mr. Castaneda: Commissioner, just clarification. You are only referring to
the item on the $50,000?
Mayor Suarez: Yes.
Mr. Plummer: That's already been passed before this Commission.
Mayor Suarez: So modified, moved and seconded. Any discussion, call the
roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 87-350
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO UTILIZE
THREE HUNDRED SEVENTY EIGHT THOUSAND DOLLARS
($378,000) OF THE SEVEN HUNRRED THIRTY THOUSAND
DOLLARS ($730,000) ALLOCATED FROM THE TWELFTH (12TH)
YEAR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT FUNDS FOR THE
PURPOSE OF EXECUTING CONTRACT AGREEMENTS, IN A FORM
ACCEPTABLE TO THE CITY ATTORNEY, AND IN ACCORDANCE
WITH THE GUIDELINES SET FORTH, WITH THOSE COMMUNITY
BASED ORGANIZATIONS NAMED BELOW, WHOSE PROJECT
PROPOSALS WERE SELECTED BY THE ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT/PHYSICAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT COMMITTEE,
AND SUCCESSFULLY MEET THE SCORING REQUIREMENTS AND
LEVERAGE AMOUNTS.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
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Upon being seconded by Commissioner Dawkins, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote-
AISS: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
Mr. Plummer: Orlando, do you have something to say on 45?
Mr. Orlando Yes, Mr. Armando Cazo to talk about the Allapattah
Business Development Authority.
Mr. Plummer: About what?
Mr. Orlando Allapattah Business Development Authority. He is a member
of the board.
Mr. Plummer: Oh, OK.
Mayor Suarez: Armando.
Mr. Armando Cazo: Mayor, Commissioners, my name is Armando Cazo, with offices
at 3501 S.W. Sth Street. I'm sorry, I just... item number 45, you said it
was?
Mr. Plummer: Yes, sir.
Mr. Cazo: Is that related to economic development, the budget?
Mr. Plummer: Yes.
Mr. Cazo: OK, as a member of the Allapattah Business Development Authority,
we introduced three different projects, which we thought had a lot of merits,
and the budget for each individual project was really not considered a lot of
money. One of the most pressing projects, I must say, is the Allapattah
banner project whereby we are trying to identify our commercial area in the
Allapattah area and it was not approved... Allapattah Community Fair, which is
the second year we are trying to hold that. It was held last year and we are
trying to promote the area by doing, creating a community fair, also was not
approved. You know...
Mr. Plummer: Well, are you saying that you want to be included in this list,
is that what you are asking for?
Mr. Cazo: Well, actually...
Mr. Plummer: I don't...
Mr. Castaneda: Commissioner, basically, there were certain projects submitted
for approval, of which only four were approved.
Mr. Plummer: That is what I am looking at.
Mr. Castaneda: Right, and the others were not approved by the committee.
Mr. Plummer: So you will have to come in under the next year's grants,
because these now... I don't know what the others are, Tacolcy Economic
Development, Spic and Span Car Wash, Haitian Task Force...
Mr. Castaneda: Right.
Mr. Plummer: ... and the Retail Gallery Center.
Mr. Castaneda: There will be two cycles and this year the money was divided
In half. This is the first cycle. The second cycle will be coming in about
two months.
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Mr. Plummer: They will be considered for the second cycle?
:,:. Laacaneua: Yes.
Mr. Plummer: Well, that is where you will come in.
Mr. Cazo: Just point of clarification. When will the next cycle be?
Mayor Suarez: We are in process now, no?
Mr. Castaneda: No, we will be advertising probably within the next two months
we will have another cycle. This is the money for the Economic Development
pool in which we have created a committee consisting of Herb Bailey, myself,
Director of Planning, and we review projects submitted like a mini-U.D.A.G.,
if you have matching funds from the private sector, we will consider you, if
you rate above "X" number of points and they are awarded on merit and then we
will bring it to the City Commission for approval
Mr. Cazo: Thank you.
Mayor Suarez: We are in the midst of a legislative cycle in Tallahassee and I
know that there is one grant application pending. Hopefully everybody is
moving on that and if not, let us know, please, if we can help with it.
Mr. Plummer: Did you call the roll on 45?
Mr. Dawkins: Yes.
Mayor Suarez: Did we call the roll?
Ms. Hirai: No, sir.
(THEREUPON, THE ROLL WAS CALLED ON THIS ITEM AGAIN)
57. CONTINUED DISCUSSION BY MEMBERS OF "CURE A.I.D.S. now" (SEE LABEL #55)
Mr. Dawkins: Mr. Manager, I want to apologize to these gentlemen for losing
my temper with that gentlemen, but I think we need to make an effort to assist
them, OK? As J.L. says, we do have a meals on wheels program and it is
senseless to give money to another agency to create a meal on wheels program,
so as they..... we discussed trying to meet their needs, I want us to find a
way to provide whoever is serving the meals on wheels, to provide some meals
for these gentlemen.
Mr. Odio: Yes, sir.
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Mr. Dawkins: That is what I just asked him sir, was for him to see how we...
we do have...
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Mr. Dawkins: Now, you are just like him, see, you want to argue. You don't
want to get nothing done, sir, OK?
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Mr. Dawkins: No, no, and I can understand your frustration with the system,
OK? Now, you I can understand. That other guy I can't understand, but I can
understand you having come to the system, been denied and being frustrated, so
I've got no problem with that, OK? But, we are going to address your needs,
some kind of way, here, OK? All right, now, somebody get with these gentlemen
here and find out how we can get the meals to them, OK?
Mr. Plummer: Plus, the fact, Commissioner, we can get it through this other
program a hell of a lot cheaper and provide more meals...
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Mr. Dawkins: Well, that is what I am saying, we can provide more meals, J.L.
Mr. Plummer: ... because they are already in business to do it.
Mr. Dawkins: We don't have any start-up cash. We don't have any.
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Mr. Dawkins: Yes, but I am saying, there again, you have got pay somebody to
prepare it, etc., etc., We already got a meal on wheels program for the
senior citizens, so...,
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Mr. Dawkins: No, that is what I am trying to be sure now, that when they
stop, we can start. That is what I am getting with him over here now, sir, to
be sure, OK? What I am trying to say to you, I would rather try to find
$20,000 and give to an existing program that we have, that, let's say for the
sake of discussion, preparing a meal for $1.80, than to give it to another
agency who is going to start up and prepare... provide the same meal for
$2.20, because we are going to get more meals, OK?
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Mr. Dawkins: I can't hear you, sir.
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Mr. Dawkins: Yes, but he says it is going to stop.
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Mr. Dawkins: Well, that is why we have got... OK, that is why we are trying
to get... see, we have got a program, OK? We have got funds. Now, it is a
matter of trying to free up some more funds and to put into this program to
provide "X" number of more meals a day, and I think we can do that much easier
and less expensive than we can the other way, and other much better. Now, we
are going to see if we can address some of these needs, OK?
58. GRANT 90-DAY EXTENSION FOR NEGOTIATIONS REGARDING THE MELROSE AND CIVIC
CENTER AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS.
Mayor Suarez: Jerry.
Mr. Jerry Gereaux: Mayor, members of the City Commission, on January 22nd of
this year, the Commission conditionally selected two nonprofit development
corporations to build nonprofit housing, affordable for sale by low income
families on the Melrose Nursery and Civic Center sites. The two groups are
Melrose Townhome Development Incorporated, and the other one is CODEC
Incorporated. Now, the conditions for that designation, were that within a 90
day period of time, both groups returned to the Administration and
subsequently to the Commission with final site plans, final unit plans,
verifiable evidence of firm construction and financing for the buyers and a
number of other relevant things. I have both teams here today. They both
wish to make presentations to you. I can tell you that over the past 90 days,
both groups have been working diligently to meet the 90 day time deadline. I
can also tell you that neither of the two groups will be able to provide me
and the Manager, and subsequently you, within the 90 day time frame,
everything they were requested to provide. However, they are here to make you
a brief presentations on the progress they have made in site planning, getting
site planning approval, obtaining their financing, and one of the things we
discussed earlier today was the need to secure financing through the surtax
program.
Mr. Plummer: When are we going to put a shovel in the ground?
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Mr. Gereaux: And, I would like to introduce both groups to you and let them
tell you, Commissioner Plummer, when they expect to put that shovel in the
ground.
Mr. Dawkins: No, all we need to know from them is, what do they need for an
extension, and then they can come back and tell us about putting the shovel in
the ground, because we do have to identify the other financing and what have
you.
Mr. Gereaux: OK, John Lindstrom is representing Melrose Townhome Development
Inc., the nonprofit designated to sponsor the development on Melrose.
Mr. John Lindstrom: fir. Mayor and Commissioners...
Mayor Suarez: I think what we are trying to say is, we understand that you
are going through site planning and everything else. We assume that the most
important thing you need is to complete your financial package before you put
the shovel in the ground, to use Commissioner Plummer's terra. How close are
we, and what is missing?
Mr. Lindstrom: We would like an additional 90 days. The surtax money, which
you all discussed this morning, I understand, and we have had a number of
problems on the Melrose site, as far as the trees and some of the landscaping
that we had to do. All the boards... we are asking for another 90 days, that
would help us get the surtax money available and finish the plans. I have
both the architects here to explain...
Mayor Suarez: Supposing you don't get the surtax approval within the next 90
days?
Mrs. Kennedy: How close are you to getting your surtax approval?
Mr. Plummer: They are telling them there is no money until October.
Mr. Lindstrom: Yes, that is what we have been told. There is no money until
October, but if we have the...
Mayor Suarez: So you are not going to make it in the next 90 days.
Mr. Lindstrom: But, if we can get the commitment from the Surtax Board...
Mayor Suarez: Will they make that commitment before the next 90 days?
Mr. Gereaux: The surtax Board has in the past granted forward commitments to
developers with adequate plans, Commissioner.
Mayor Suarez: And you seem hopeful that they would do it in this case?
Mr. Gereaux: I am extremely hopeful they will do it in this case.
Mayor Suarez: Give us a... when you get a chance, for myself and the rest of
the Commission, a list of the members of the Surtax Board, please? Are we
allowed to send them letters and so on, and lobby them?... OK.
Mr. Dawkins: That's why I went to Tallahassee.
Mr. Plummer: Yes, we are sending Dawkins to Tallahassee. We better be able
tol
Mayor Suarez: Well, when he comes back, then we begin the round of lobbying.
We hope the Legislature will lobby them too, and threaten them with...
Mrs. Kennedy: When he comes back from Taiwan or Tallahassee?
Mr. Plummer: I want to see when Dawkins registers in Tallahassee as a
lobbyistl
Mrs. Kennedy: When he comes back from Tallahassee or Taiwan?
Mr. Lindstrom: We are working with the Commissioner and the City, trying to
lobby the Legislature to get the money.
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Mr. Plummer: OK, are you presently working with the Allapattah group to
manage that situation this Commission asked?
Mr. Lindstrom: We have had some discussions with them and from what I
understand, we are going to work with them and help them in every way we can.
Mr. Plummer: I move the 90 day extension.
Mrs. Kennedy: Second.
Mayor Suarez: So moved, seconded. Any further discussion? Call the roll.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved
its adoption:
MOTION NO. 87-351
A MOTION GRANTING A 90-DAY EXTENSION FOR NEGOTIATIONS
REGARDING THE MELROSE AND CIVIC CENTER AFFORDABLE HOUSING
PROJECTS, IN ORDER THAT SAID GROUPS MAY BE ABLE TO PRESENT
A COMPLETE FINANCIAL PACKAGE FOR CONSIDERATION BY THE CITY
COMMISSION.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Kennedy, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Mr. Dawkins: Thank you, Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Suarez: Item 83, so we can get you...
Mr. Plummer: Now, you got the Civic Center.
Mr. Gereaux: Mr. Mayor, excuse me, the Civic Center is going to be...
Mr. Dawkins: It is the same, we granted them 90 days extension there, the
both groups.
Mayor Suarez: You guys have pretty much the same status, by the way, Julio?
Mr. Julio de Quesada: The Commission wanted to know the status of where we
are standing now, and at least report on it.
Mr. Dawkins: Do you need 90 days extension too thought, don't you? So we
awarded it already to both groups.
Mr. Plummer: Well, let me ask this question. This Commission asked you to...
hello, sirl...
Mayor Suarez: Julio.
Mr. Plummer: This Commission asked you to talk with the Allapattah group
also.
Mr. de Quesada: No, you did not.
Mr. Plummer: We did not?
Mr. Dawkins: Oh, they will within the next 90 days.
Mr. Plummer: Well, wait a minute, now. Am I mistaken? Was it Jerry? Didn't
this Commission ask that they likewise talk with the Allapattah group?
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Mr. Gereaux: I believe that the Commission, after the vote in January did
direct them to discuss it with the Allapattah Business Development group and I
understand that they declined.
Mr. Plummer: Who declined?
Mrs. Kennedy: Who declined, the Allapattah group, or the...
Mr. Gereaux: That's my understanding.
Mayor Suarez: I think they gave that indication right here at City Hall, if I
remember correctly.
Mr. Plummer: Well, they are here. Let's ask the question. Did you all
decline to talk with these people?
Mayor Suarez: Or would you now want to begin? Where are they? They are not
here. Urra left.
Mr. Plummer: No, Urra is here.
Mrs. Kennedy: No, Urra is here, right in front of me.
Mayor Suarez: Where is Urra?
Mrs. Kennedy: Right here.
Mayor Suarez: Armando, do you want to answer that? Does that mean that you
will enter negotiations? OK. You have got 90 days for those negotiations,
then. Don't let one thing be an impediment to the other, please. I mean, you
got 90 days to do the whole shebang and come back with a complete financial
package, hopefully.
NOTE FOR THE RECORD: AGENDA ITEM 82 WAS WITHDRAWN.
59. ALLOCATE $30,000 FOR "FLORIDA HOUSING COOPERATIVE, INC." FOR CONVERSION
OF PROPERTY TO LOW AND MODERATE INCOME HOUSING WITH PROVISOS.
Mayor Suarez: Item 83. You've got 30 seconds! Go ahead.
Mr. Roberto Godoy, Sr.: For record purposes, my name is Roberto Godoy,
executive secretary of Florida Housing Cooperative. At the meeting held on
March 13th, we appeared and asked the final approval of the Commission, for
the allocation of $30,000 of the 11 years fund held in abeyance under Motion
86-370 of May 7, 1986 for the acquisition of the property located at 626 S.W.
4 Avenue, Miami, Florida. As requested in said meeting, we have furnished Mr.
Jerry Gereaux copy of the sales contract, and complete information as to the
feasibility to convert this rental unit into cooperative units to be owned by
the tenants. We now require the final approval as closing must take place on,
or before, April 23, and we have already made a deposit of $500.
Mrs. Kennedy: Roberto, let me ask you, and please, don't think that I am
picking on you - I know that you got that impression the last time. I am just
trying to look at this as a business deal. I had a lot of concerns, and I
still have a lot of concerns. What kind of financial commitment do you have?
Mr. Godoy, Sr.: I have a contract signed with the owner of the property, by
which we give $30,000 down -payment. I have the contract here, and Mr. Gereaux
has a copy of that contract.
Mrs. Kennedy: How about the surtax money?
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Mr. Godoy, Sr.: About the surtax money, we will ask that within the year that
we are going to transfer that, but even without the surtax money, I have given
the numbers to show that we we, within i"t.o
owners.
Mr. Plummer: Well, let's go into...
Mr. Godoy, Sr.: And we pay the same rental that they are paying, that they
will be paying, as owners.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Gereaux, you sent us a memo which I afforded them a copy
they had not seen before about irregularities of monies that they have
received in the past. Their immediate response to me was, that they cleared
that matter up yesterday.
Mr. Gereaux: First of all, Mr. Commissioner, I didn't deliver that
information to you. I think I got it at the same time you did, and made...
Mr. Plummer: Oh, I am sorry. I gave you my copy, who did it...
Mr. Gereaux: And I made Mr. Godoy yesterday afternoon aware of that fact. I
apologize for being out of the room, and I am not sure if the Commission is
aware totally of what Mr. Godoy's concept was. I was asked to come back and
analyze it after yesterday.
Mr. Plummer: I am asking about the memo. Mr. Manager, I gave them... does
anybody have a copy of the memo?
Mr. Odio: Mr. Gereaux, do you want to give your memo up?
Mr. Plummer: Do you have a copy of the memo?
Mr. Gereaux: I don't. I've got a copy of the audit, yes.
Mr. Plummer: Could I have mine back, please?
Mr. Odio: Yes, give it to him, please.
Mr. Plummer: This is an official public document, so we better put it on the
record. This came from... who did it come from?... Chhabra, the director of
Internal Audits, and basically, what it states here: "The F.H.C. used City
funds for line items, over expenditures, totaling $3,075.72. In addition, the
F.H.C. has not provided adequate documentation to justify expenditures of
$6,838.98. As a result, the auditors have questioned these expenditures
totaling $10,514.70. The above situation demonstrates the importance of
establishing and maintaining adequate internal controls of the disbursement of
City funds to agencies." That is kind of heavy. Is Mr. Chhabra here, because
they are contending that this matter was cleared up yesterday. I don't think
that this City can proceed with this kind of a memo, stating that there is a
discrepancy of $10,000 worth of funds, and if it has been cleared up, we ought
to know about it. I received this memo yesterday, so I questioned whether it
was cleared up yesterday.
Mr. Godoy, Sr.: First, I would like to say...
Mr. Plummer: No, no, excuse me, sir, I'd like to get an answer from the
people I...
Mr. Odio: The matter... we have not been notified that the matter has been
resolved.
Mrs. Kennedy: Well then, I move to defer it until the audit exceptions are
cleared.
Mr. Plummer: I have to second that motion. Now, Mr. Godoy, I gave you a copy
of this before the meeting.
Mr. Godoy, Sr.: Yes, you gave me copy, sir, and that is the reason that I
want to mention right here, as you can see, that memorandum is dated April
8th.
Mr. Plummer: No, it says March 26, 19...
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Mr. Godoy, Sr.: No, the outside, when it was requested.
Mr. Plummer: The memo, sir, is dated March 26, 19...
Mr. Godoy, Sr.: Yes, but the attachments was April 8th...
Mr. Plummer: Yes, sir.
Mr. Godoy, Sr.: When Mr. Chhabra even was on vacation. I went there, I went
to see Mr. Chhabra and got together with the Commission, with his assistant,
and then with the representative of the Community Development, and we showed
to them every piece of contracts and receipts and Mr. Chhabra was satisfied
when I told him, for example: Sergio Comoglio, checks four and five for a
total of $500, contract date, October 15, for $500, signed by Mr. Sergio
Comoglio, and Carlos Rodriguez Quesada, president, and duly witnessed.
Invoice date was October llth, for the first payment of $250, signed by Sergio
Comoglio, and final invoice dated October 23rd, signed by Sergio Comoglio,
and approved by Carlos Rodriguez Quesada, and Roberto Godoy. Original checks
four and fourteen, against the Continental National Bank of Miami handed to
the City of Miami, as well as the documents, Mr. Chhabra said, "I am
satisfied," and then like that. Yes, this was on April 8th. Then Mr.
Chhabra...
Mr. Plummer: Sir, Mr. Godoy...
Mr. Godoy, Sr.: ...was satisfied. This was the biggest forum, that was
doing. Then, I don't know what is behind this, because after two years, now
they are talking. It was the biggest forum in the City of Miami for the
$50,000. So, I don't know really what is behind that after two years, they
sent this report and they made this audit, and now they send this to the
Commission when there was a big bunch of 100 audits. Why didn't they send
those 100 audits to the Manager and to the Commission here? I don't know why.
Mayor Suarez: Wait, wait.
Mr. Plummer: I don't either!
Mrs. Kennedy: Mr. Manager, can you answer?
Mr. Odio: Yes, I can. The Audit Department gave them until April 21 to have
an exit conference and clear up any doubts that they might have, or they can
clear up their audit. You have until April 21 to clear that up. They are
simply saying that they don't have the proper records. If you can show them
that you do, then that is cleared up. Why did we get that audit? We get an
audit on every single grant that we give out, and I receive all of them in my
office every single day. It is not only for you, but for anybody that comes
here for grants.
Mr. Godoy, Sr.: Then, do you mean that in addition to Mr. Chhabra, do you
want that I deliver those records to you?
Mr. Odio: No, I am saying that you have until April...
Mr. Godoy, Sr.: Or you will take the one of Mr. Chhabra?
Mr. Odio: You will have until April 21 to meet with the Audit Department and
clarify all your records with him, have an exit conference with him.
Mr. Godoy, Sr.: No, sir, they gave it, you see. They even gave me oh yes,
April 219t.
Mr. Odio: Thank you, air. So you have until that day to clear up your
records, that is all we are saying.
Mrs. Kennedy: And then we will bring... this is a normal procedure.
Mr. Godoy, Sr.: To choose some other boards and to choose some other things.
Mr. Odio: No, but I need to make sure you understand what I am saying, that
we are not picking on your particular grant. We do that with everybody, sir.
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Mr. Godoy, Sr.: Yes, but I don't know why this is brought in connection with
this matter, when we are asking $30,000 just for a down -payment.
Mr. Odio: But, Mr. Godoy, you have to understand you just...
Mr. Godoy, Sr.: Don't have to do anything one thing with the other!
Mrs. Kennedy: Yes, but, you see, it is more than the down -payment. We... in
fact, Commissioner Plummer asked if you wanted it as a loan. You want a
grant, an conceptually, this sounds like a great project... you know, you buy
this building, you turn into it into a cooperative, but here coops are not as
successful as they are. in the north and we have to have some kind of insurance
that the City is going to get its money back.
Mr. Godoy, Sr.: Lady Commissioner, allow me to say that what I don't
understand, how after two years, and after such a wonderful forum like this
was given, they try to bring this to a halt with the only idea as for example,
as the Manager said, we'll bring April 21, the meeting will be April 30.
Then we are lost. We don't need the thirty dollars and we lost the $500, then
the whole contract is cancelled.
Mr. Odio: Mr. Godoy...
Mr. Godoy, Sr.: So, I don't see what is the problem around.
Mr. Odio: Explain to him in Spanish that there is no way that we can provide
funds to any organization that doesn't clear up any prior audits. We cannot
do that.
Mr. Godoy, Sr.: Why... excuse me, why the Commission cannot approve this fund
of the $30,000, subject that we demonstrate to Mr. Chhabra and to the Manager,
that everything was properly done? That is my petition.
Mayor Suarez: That would be agreeable with me.
Mr. Carollo: I will make a motion that it be approved subject to the Manager
being convinced that ample proof has been presented to him.
Mr. Plummer: Now that... OK, understand that that is the form of a loan. It
must be paid back for further consideration in the future of other projects.
Mrs. Kennedy: OK.
Mr. Godoy, Sr.: It never was presented as a loan. It was presented as a
grant, because the idea of the cooperative is to buy units and make owners...
Mayor Suarez: Yes, they are going to have a tough enough time financing a
project if we don't give them a grant for the deposit for this thing.
Mr. Godoy, Sr.: It is a grant and that was the agreement taken here on May 7,
as a grant.
Mr. Plummer: We will give you adequate time to pay it back, but look, if we
keep giving out money and giving out money, we are not going to have money in
the future to do more projects!
Mrs. Kennedy: That's right. and then... excuse me...
Mr. Godoy, Sr.: Excuse me, Mr. Plummer, you are not giving a penny. That is
Federal money that is being given on the 11 years.
Mr. Plummer: Sir, Mr. Godoy, I pay Federal taxes just like I pay State and
City taxes)
Mayor Suarez: We are charged with administering our Federal monies, so it is
the same thing.
Mrs. Kennedy: And Mr. Godoy, what guarantee...
Mr. Plummer: We've got the same responsibility.
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Mrs. Kennedy: What guarantee do we have that you are not going to come back
before this board and say that you need more money? What guarantee are we
going to have that we are going to get our money back if you don't hi.s1A1 4-1,:-
unit, or if you don't rent them, or if you don't buy the cooperative? You —
know, we need some assurances.
Mr. Godoy, Sr.: No, that is a different thing, Lady Commissioner, to prove,
because that money will go, when we sign the contract, will go with the check
of the City of Miami, and we are not asking to be given to us, and then with
the City, of the check from the City of Miami will be a down payment.
Mayor Suarez: It is ,very difficult to finance a project if your seed money
for land acquisition is not a grant, so I have no problem making it into a
grant.
Mrs. Kennedy: I can't go with something that doesn't have the financing in
place, I'm sorry!
Mr. Carollo: Commissioner, what we are saying is, let them provide the
information to the Manager. If he is not satisfied, then we are going to be
hearing from him again.
Mr. Plummer: Is that agreeable to you?
Mrs. Kennedy: If the Manager is not satisfied...
Mayor Suarez: That's right, you got another hot potato to put in another one
of your inside pockets here.
Mr. Plummer: Yes, but I am still saying, you know, that I feel that it should
be in the form of a loan.
Mrs. Kennedy: Right, absolutely.
Mr. Plummer: I am still saying that, as we have done before! Why should this
group be any different than the other groups that we have dealt with?
Mrs. Kennedy: Imagine the number of people we can put in business giving
$30,000 grants here and there!
Mayor Suarez: The St. John...
Mr. Carollo: Figure out the amount of years, the times, the terms and
everything else, and, once he gets the required paperwork from them, if they
are in order, then he can bring it all back at one time.
Mr. Plummer: That's fine, I've got no problem with that. I've got no problem
with that. If that the intent of the motion, I can... if that's the intent of
the motion... you figure out the time and everything.
Mr. Carollo: No, subject to the Manager.
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Mr. Carollo: Listen, you are the guy that gets paid $90,000 plus.
Mr. Odio: How much?
Mr. Carollo: $90,000 plus.
Mr. Odio: Yes, sir.
Mr. Carollo: That's...
Mr. Odio: The Tourist Coalition is paying 250,000.
Mr. Carollo: That is what we pay you, to make little decisions like this.
Mr. Odio: The Tourist Coalition is paying 250,000.
Mr. Carollo: Well...
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Mr. Odio: OK, no, I am serious. What should I do?
Mrs. Kennedy: No, it won't.
Mayor Suarez: The way they are going, there may not be a Tourist Coalition.
Mr. Carollo: You want to stay in a securer serious job, that is the
difference.
Mr. Odio: In the what?
Mr. Caorllo: Secure apd serious job.
Mr. Plummer: What we are saying is, there are a lot of unanswered questions.
Mrs. Kennedy: Right.
Mr. Plummer: OK? We want you to be in charge of making sure that all of
those answers are affirmative and in order.
Mr. Odio: I will, but they have to...
Mr. Plummer: We want you to come back with the proper numbers of what this
situation is as it relates to the amount of money that will be forthcoming.
We have given you, what?... fifty in the past? We gave you $50,000 in the...
Mr. Godoy, Sr.: $15,000, $15,000.
Mr. Plummer: One five.
Mr. Godoy, Sr.: From the total, one five.
Mr. Plummer: Right, OK.
Mrs. Kennedy: Of which $10,000 has been audited.
Mr. Plummer: And of which, two-thirds of that money is being questioned.
Mr. Godoy, Sr.: No, but we did not even use the $15,000, and the questions, I
don't know what is behind that. There is no question at all lto be made.
Mayor Suarez: Well, they were just trying to check to see how it was spent,
that is all.
Mr. Plummer: We did not ask for this audit, sir. This is a normal routine
procedure when you get our money, that everybody goes through an audit. We
pick on everybody, sir - everybody that gets money from this Commission, OK?
Mr. Robert Godoy, Jr.: Mr. Plummer, my name is Robert Godoy, too. The
question that we are asking is, why, you know, it has been two years, and now,
the day, because if that memorandum is March 26th, was presented April Sth,
and after we gave those answers to a gentlemen, now the coincidence is that
the gentlemen now is on vacation. That means that after that gentlemen
comes...
Mayor Suarez: Well, that aspect of it, we are approving. We are approving
subject to the City Manager being satisfied of...
Mr. Godoy, Jr.: OK, that is fine with us.
Mayor Suarez:... any further... right, that aspect of it is not a hassle. We
are only, at this point...
Mr. Godoy, Sr.: But, also, the main problem is, that they are talking of
loans, and millions have been granted, millions have been granted without any
loans, and if we want to develop a cooperative...
Mayor Suarez: Let me ask a question. How about St. Johns Economic
Development and some of the other groups that are expected to be building some
housing. Didn't some of them get grants too?
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Mr. Gereaux: St. Johns received a $50,000 administrative grant to get the
agency up and going. They also received a... or are about to close on a
$45,000 low interest loan.
Mayor Suarez: Fine, but if we gave them the $30,000, again, aren't we
stipulating that if by any chance they don't go through with this project, we
have a lien on this property, which we can impose at that point?
Mr. Gereaux: We could do it that way.
Mayor Suarez: I mean, they are not...
Mr. Plummer: Where could...
Mr. Carollo: That is the only way that you could do it, and I am sure that
would be acceptable to them.
Mayor Suarez: Right. No, we said that, I think last time, and therefore, we
are going to supervise the spending of the money to buy this property and we
are going to have the property if they don't... you know. It is almost the
same as a loan, I mean, I...
Mr. Plummer: Well, I think what you are doing, Mr. Mayor, OK?... and my
concern...
Mayor Suarez: Yes.
Mr. Plummer: ... and I think that of Rosario, is if in fact, they put up $500
as a deposit, they use this $30,000 to make the down -payment, OK?... and they
are not able to put the rest of their financial package together...
Mrs. Kennedy: Exactly!
Mr. Plummer: You know...
Mayor Suarez: We have a right under the terms that you are going to draft to
have an automatic lien impressed on the property.
Mr. Carollo: Plummer, you are getting pretty good at this! Been reading up
law books, or...?
Mr. Plummer: No.
Mayor Suarez: We talked about that last time, Jerry, didn't we?
Mr. Gereaux: We did indeed talk about that, and if you will look at the
package on this subject, what I...
Mayor Suarez: That's if you don't go through with the project, so that we
know that we have a prior claim, that you just abandoned the thing altogether,
but we are... I am trying to get you a third vote...
Mr. Godoy, Sr.: I will not abandon. The only thing I need, we...
Mayor Suarez: We hope you don't abandon it, but just in case, it will turn
into a lien at that point, and we will be able to take the property back or
have a claim for it.
Mrs. Kennedy: Let me ask you something else. Let me ask you, how about
administrative funding. Are you going to make a salary?
Mr. Godoy, Sr.: I will make what?
Mrs. Kennedy: A salary.
Mr. Godoy, Sr.: A salary?
Mrs. Kennedy: Yes.
Mr. Godoy, Sr.: No, we are not maklag any salary.
Mr. Plummer: Will anybody be making a...
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Mr. Godoy, Sr.: We live, you see, we live the cooperative, live with grant
f— *k^ n*O- County. We are not making any salary or any money.
Mrs. Kennedy: Nobody is going to be making money?
Mr. Godoy, Sr.: No money. Nobody is going to make any money with that. We
have a salary from the Dade County.
Mayor Suarez: We can actually supervise the... we can actually transfer the
money directly to an escrow account for the purchase, can we not?
Mr. Gereaux: Yes, we could do that. Mr. Mayor...
Mr. Godoy, Jr.: Mr. Mayor, that money, because I am the attorney doing that
closing... that I am not charging anything for doing the closing.
Mayor Suarez: We assume that, otherwise, you would have to register and
everything else.
Mr. Godoy, Jr.: That money is to pay the down -payment...
Mayor Suarez: Right, so we can put it right into a trust account, with that
condition, to be...
Mr. Godoy, Jr.: That money is to pay for the down -payment. That money is not
to any salary or anything to the cooperative. It is to pay for the value...
we are paying that to the seller.
Mr. Plummer: OK, where is the rest of the money coming from?
Mr. Godoy, Sr.: A first mortgage that is transferred to us of the F.H.A.
Mr. Plummer: Do you have a commitment for the first mortgage?
Mr. Godoy, Sr.: Yes, we have it.
Mr. Plummer: May I see a copy of it?
Mr. Godoy, Sr.: Mr. Gereaux has it if you want it.
Mr. Gereaux: I do not have a copy of that first mortgage document with me,
Commissioner, but I have reviewed it...
Mr. Plummer: Have you seen such a document?
Mr. Gereaux: I have reviewed the first mortgage document.
Mr. Plummer: Is there a commitment?
Mr. Gereaux: There is a commitment into... assigned the existing first
mortgage, which is held by the existing property owner, to Florida Housing
Cooperative under certain terms and conditions.
Mr. Plummer: And what are those terms and conditions?
Mr. Gereaux: Well, you know, there are typical things when you close a
property. It is a contract for sale, with a commitment to assign the
mortgage.
Mr. Plummer: Is there...
Mayor Suarez: Is the interest rate guaranteed, Jerry?
Mr. Gereaux: The interest rate is guaranteed. It is assignable at a fixed
rate.
Mrs. Kennedy: Jerry...
Mr. Plummer: OK, who owns the property? Let's say that the day comes in 10
years that that property is sold.
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Mr. Gereaux: OK, the way it would work, is and what these gentlemen... and
I'd like to take a couple minutes to explain this. They are requesting this
I • b --.` The; are going to use that as a down -payment. They are
going to maintain the property as a rental mode for 12 months while they
attempt to secure the financing for the end users, in other words, the four
cooperative owners. According to their proposal, the four new cooperative
owners would be assigned that existing first mortgage, which they are ready to
assume, OK?
Mr. Plummer: You mean, assuming they qualify.
Mr. Gereaux: Assuming they qualify for the assignment, of course. The other
part of it is that the Florida Housing Cooperative is proposing to secure from
the Documentary Surtax Board, second mortgage financing for the cooperative
shareholders in order to, you know, bring the per unit share of rental cost,
if that is what you want to call them, you know, down to a certain level and
that certain level is $380 a month.
Mrs. Kennedy: Jerry, is it true that the Surtax Board does not give financing
if the building is occupied with rentals?
Mr. Gereaux: In the past, the Dade County Surtax Advisory Council has not
approved that second mortgage and financing, where the object was conversion
from a rental to a condominium, or cooperative project. That has been their
policy to date.
Mr. Plummer: Not to do it.
Mrs. Kennedy: Not to do it, you see?
Mr. Plummer: So where would this...
Mr. Gereaux: But, that is not to say that they wouldn't next month. You
know...
Mr. Plummer: Where would this project be without the surtax money?
Mr. Gereaux: The project would be, assuming that the first mortgage, the
$92,000, or three hundred first mortgage, could be assumed and split, or held
by the cooperative in common. The costs per unit would rise somewhat, but I
have to point out that the individual units would still be affordable to those
families we categorize as being low income, but I want to stress to the
Commission, that, and as the Mayor pointed it out quite clearly, that these
gentlemen are here. They can't get anything started unless they get this
first grant. I am concerned about having control over what happens to the
profit that is generated from the conversion, and there will be profits. That
profit will be about $33,000, after a balloon payment is made. If you will
refer to the recommendations that I made, what I said is that if the
Commission chooses to grant this request of Florida Housing Cooperative as a
grant, I would strongly recommend a very strong, legally binding contract,
whereby the proceeds at the point of conversion... OK, let me back up, if the
building isn't conversion, it isn't converted within the 12 month period, and
the Commission is not satisfied with what is going on in the project, that
Florida Housing Cooperative, under a legal contract, be required to
immediately reimburse the City. If the conversion does occur, and remember
that Florida Housing Cooperative In proposing this as a grant, not as a loan,
in order to refund, so they can convert another building, you know, with the
proceeds of the first conversion, that they come to the City Commission with
that profit, if that In what you want to call it, or the residuals and the
Commission has to approve the next conversion.
Mrs. Kennedy: I would like to see somebody, like the gentlemen who was here a
little while ago, Julio de Quessda, who has a proven record with CODEC, and
play a very active part in administering and watching over this project.
Mr. Gereaux: When the Commission originally approved $30,000 for cooperative
conversion, as I recall it, it has been a couple of years ago, CODEC was, at
that point, involved, I believe the City Commission wanted it to be like a
joint venture, between Florida Housing... not a joint venture, but have CODEC,
If you will, serve sort of, as the big brother, in whatever Florida Housing
Cooperative project was to be proposed, would have to be reviewed and
recommended to the Commission and the Administration by CODEC, if anyone is
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Mr. Plummer: Let me tell you something. Mr. Godoy, let me ask you one
question. air.
Mr. Godoy, Sr.: Yes.
Mr. Plummer: Of the expenditures that are questioned, two of them, are for a
total of $3,500 to the Casablanca Banquet Hall.
Mr. Godoy, Sr.: Yes. I gave to Mr. and he was satisfied.
Mr. Plummer: What was it for? I mean, you are using the City's money that we
gave you for a banquet, for a dinner.
Mr. Godoy, Sr.: For a banquet, for a dinner, to the members of the forum and
to the people who have attended the forum. That was approved in the budget.
Mrs. Kennedy: What happened with this forum?
Mr. Godoy, Sr.: What?
Mrs. Kennedy: What happened with this forum?
Mr. Godoy, Sr.: What happened to the forum?
Mrs. Kennedy: Yes, you had a forum?
Mr. Godoy, Sr.: Yes, you want to see the...
Mrs. Kennedy: Who came to the forum? What results did you get?... other than
Casablanca Banquet Hall, a good dinner at Casablanca Banquet Hall?
Mr. Godoy, Sr.: It is the biggest forum given here in the City of Miami,
thousands of people came... State Senators, Congressmen, the best speakers,
professors...
Mrs. Kennedy: And the...
Mr. Godoy, Sr.: And you can see even the commendation given by the Dade
County and by the City of Miami.
Mrs. Kennedy: All right, this is the forum where we have the problem with
$10,000 out of the $15,000, right?
Mr. Plummer: Yes.
Mrs. Kennedy: OK. All right.
Mr. Godoy, Sr.: And every penny, instead of that, that was left even $500.
Mayor Suarez: That is all right. She is satisfied with the answer, don't keep
going. We have a motion...
Mrs. Kennedy: Yes, my motion was to have CODEC...
Mr. Plummer: No, there is a motion on the floor, by Commissioner Carollo.
Mayor Suarez: I thought we had a motion to approve subject to the City
Manager working out the details, and obviously, Jerry is really on top of the
situation here. I think he is going to work out a very good agreement.
Mr. Plummer: Call the roll.
Mrs. Kennedy:
And this is
as
a grant, or as a loan? ...
as a loan, right?
Mayor Suarez:
As a grant,
but
with the understanding...
no?
Mr. Plummer: Loan.
Mrs. Kennedy: Loan, that is my understanding. -
Mr. Plummer: Yes.
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Ms. Hirai: Need a second on the motion, Mr. Mayor. Oh, Mr. Plummer seconded
it.?
Mr. Dawkins: What is the motion? Read the motion.
Ms. Hirai: It is a substitute motion.
Mr. Dawkins: What is it?
Me. Hirai: Approving it subject to the City Manager being satisfied.
Mr. Dawkins: As a grant.
Mr. Plummer: No, as a loan.
Mrs. Kennedy: As a loan.
Mr. Godoy, Sr.: No, I... Mayor, as a loan we don't want anything.
Mrs. Kennedy: OK, we make the motion, sir.
Mayor Suarez: The thing is, they can't really...
Mr. Godoy, Sr.: As a loan, we don't take anything. If they don't want to
give us as a grant, after the City has given millions...
Mayor Suarez: We are trying to clarify it. The maker of the motion is not
here. I would favor it, as I told you, as a grant. I just don't have the
maker of the motion here.
Mrs. Kennedy: This is so ridiculous. I can't stand it.
Mr. Plummer: See, I am still concerned that we are going to put $30,000 in
this as a down -payment, and then the rest of the financial picture is not
going to be put together, that is where my concern is, and then we are
standing in line with a lien and legal battles and all the rest of that. Are
you saying, Jerry, that that $30,000 can be held in escrow and not transferred
until the closing of the total package?
Mr. Gereaux: According to the gentlemen them;:, they need the $30,000
_ immediately, and they need it as a grant in order to close on the building.
It could...
Mr. Plummer: What about this profit of $33,000 on the conversion?
Mr. Gereaux: Well, the proceeds of the conversion, as proposed by Mr. Godoy,
_ would be used to buy another building and put Florida Coop on a self-
sustaining...
Mr. Plummer: Why wouldn't they pay us back from that proceed, if they are
making $33,000?
Mr. Gereaux: Well, Commissioner, maybe...
Mayor Suarez: Well, put it into a revolving account, subject to our approval
that might be used for another building, or...
Mr. Plummer: No, no, no.
Mr. Gereaux: Maybe the ideal thing would be to write the contract so any
proceeds of the conversion would come back to the City Commission and these
gentlemen would have to apply for them again.
Mr. Plummer: There will be $33,000 profit in the conversion according to
Jerry Gereaux.
Mr. Carollo: Yes.
Mr. Plummer: And what he is saying...
Mayor Suarez: Oh, it may be zero. If it...
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Mr. Plummer: If it does become a reality that that money be paid - the
$30,000 be^id �.-�. •. •+._:«.. ._,� .�,_.. .�.. ,. __..r.,..�11.... I will even
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come back off the loan on that.
Mayor Suarez: OK.
Mr. Gereaux: But, Commissioner, I think what Mr. Godoy would like to say is
those proceeds, upon conversion, they would like you, once those proceeds
return, to be put in this little fund for future co-ops that they could apply
for.
Mr. Plummer: We'll make that determination.
Mayor Suarez: We'll have to...
Mr. Plummer: No, no, this Commission will make that determination.
Mr. Carollo: Well, let me say this. If this project is a successful project,
then I, for one, will go on the record and say that I will immediately vote
that they will be placed back into a fund so they can acquire additional
properties.
Mr. Plummer: As approved by this Commission.
Mr. Carollo: Of course.
Mr. Plummer: Of course.
Mayor Suarez: Yes. You will have that. I mean, we can't in advance try to
approve the $33,000 being used, and that way, you may not have any profits, in
which case the whole thing would be academic, so you ought to accept that.
Mr. Godoy, Sr.: If we receive that as a grant to invest in this
cooperative...
Mayor Suarez: Yes, yes, because you are about to, unless you blow it!
Mr. Plummer: Yes, but you understand, that if there is a profit on the
conversion...
Mr. Godoy, Sr.: On the conversion.
Mr. Plummer: Then, that $30,000 is going to come back to the City.
Mr. Godoy, Sr.: No, the $30,000 will be invested in another project that we
will bring here.
Mr. Plummer: No, no, no!
Mayor Suarez: No, no, it will come back for our approval.
Mr. Plummer: No, no!
Mrs. Kennedy: That is the thing! It's...
Mayor Suarez: It may be, if we approve it, but we will have a chance to
approve it at that point.
Mr. Godoy, Jr.: (COMMENTS IN SPANISH)
Mr. Plummer: All of that is subject to the Administration...
Mayor Suarez: Working out the details.
Mrs. Kennedy: Jerry, what is your honest professional recommendation?
Mr. Gereaux: My... I have been giving you, I always give you my honest
professional recommendations. My recommendation, if the City Commission would
like to attempt to participate in the conversion of a rental property to a
cooperative, would be to provide a forward commitment to Florida Housing
Cooperative, conditioned on several things - the first one, that if the
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property is not converted within 12 months, that the $30,000 revert to the
City, and that Florida Housing Cooperative provide...
Mr. Plummer: How are they going to revert the money back to us if they have
already put it down as a down -payment?
Mr. Gereaux: Let me finish.
Mr. Godoy, Sr.: The property is worth very much more, Mr. Plummer.
Mr. Gereaux: That... (I've lost my train)... I'm back on it, Commissioner...
Mayor Suarez: Subject to the City Manager working out a condition, of course
you recommend it!
Mrs. Kennedy: No, no, but you were saying something else.
Mayor Suarez: I mean, you couldn't possibly not recommend it if he works out
the...
Mr. Plummer: There is no equity beyond the $30,000 that we are giving. The
other is a first mortgage. All they have involved is $500.
Mr. Gereaux: That is...
Mr. Plummer: How are you going to get your money back? Wait a minute, excuse
me. At the end of 12 montY:s, the project is not on target. How are they
going to give us our $30,000 back?
Mr. Gereaux: What I was going to continue with, Commissioner, is that part of
the contract be that Florida Housing Cooperative put up a irrevocable letter
of credit in that amount. -
Mr. Plummer: Do they have that kind of assets?
Mr. Gereaux: Well, if they don't have that kind of asset, then I would be
concerned, but I think that they need the chance to show that.
Mr. Plummer: OK, can you give us a letter of credit, of the foundation, or
the cooperative?
Mr. Godoy, Sr.: No, sir. Mr. Plummer, what I would like you to call the
attention - I gave you a memorandum showing what happened in Arlington,
Virginia, where 1,100 units were given in the promenade in Bethesda, 1,300 and
then it went on, Jersey City, and the whole thing. What is the problem that
the City of Miami does not want to help to build thousands and thousands of
units of cooperatives? Why are you trying to stop this development? I don't
understand it!
Mr. Plummer: Sir...
Mr. Godoy, Sr.: If you don't want to give us a loan... if you don't want to
give us a grant, then forget about it.
Mayor Suarez: I understand that your patience is wearing thin, believe me,
ours is too, but it doesn't help you any to shout or to imply anything about
any Commissioner here. Why don't we just go ahead and make a decision on
this?
Mr. Plummer: Well, the decision, I think is Commissioner Carollo's motion,
that if there is a... where did he go? ... I don't know. There were
condition, one that the audit has to be cleared up.
Mrs. Kennedy: There is Julio de Quesada.
Mr. Plummer: Two, that if there is a prof it, that it would be coming back
from the profits to the Commission...
Mayor Suarez: Right.
Mr. Plummer: ...for further action, and number three, if it is not built
within 12 months, they would have to give the $30,000, or value back to us.
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Mayor Suarez: We could press a lien on the property otherwise. We have to
have that.
Mrs. Kennedy: Do we want to incorporate and have CODEC supervise them? Where
Is the maker of the motion?
(TAPE 14)
Mayor Suarez: Well, but then, CODEC may want to get paid for their
supervision, I mean, do you want to supervise them?
Mr. Plummer: What are the assets at this point, of the Florida Housing
Cooperative? .
Mr. Dawkins: One million dollars.
Mr. Plummer: What are your assets at this point, sir?
Mr. Dawkins: One million dollars.
Mrs. Kennedy: Yes?
Mr. Godoy, Sr.: What is it?
Mr. Plummer: How much are your assets?
Mr. Godoy, Sr.: We have right now.
Mr. Plummer: What are the assets presently of the corporation?
Mr. Godoy, Sr.: Of the corporation, about $45,000.
Mr. Plummer: You have $45,000 in the bank?
Mr. Godoy, Sr.: Not in the bank. I am fairly sure of things that we have
some money in the bank.
Mr. Plummer: I am asking sir, again, what are the assets presently today, of
the corporation?
- Mr. Godoy, Sr.: In cash, do you want to know in cash? Do you want to know in
cash?
Mayor Suarez: No, no, he said assets. You have $5,000 in cash, you also have
some furniture?
Mr. Godoy, Sr.: $5,000, or $6,000 cash in the bank...
Mayor Suarez: And it all adds up to...
Mr. Godoy, Sr.: And the balance in furniture.
Mayor Suarez: It all adds up to $45,000?
Mr. Godoy, Sr.: And some of the fees of the people.
Mayor Suarez: Leasehold improvements, and...
Mr. Godoy, Sr.: Of the memberships.
Mayor Suarez: But, if they are fees, they are cash, they are in the bank? Or
are they fees to be collected?
Mr. Godoy, Sr.: There is $6,000 in the cash.
Mayor Suarez: Well, you told us the cash, OK.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Gereaux, have you gone through the corporate structure of
this organization?
Mr. Gereaux: I have not, Commissioner, and that would be part of what I would
see the City Manager's job as being, in structuring the contract documents.
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Mrs. Kennedy: Why?
Mr. Plummer: OK.
Mr. Gereaux: Because I think the Administration will want to make sure these
gentlemen have the financial capacity to carry the project through to
completion.
Mr. Godoy, Sr.: COMMENTS IN SPANISH.
Mr. Plummer: With the stipulations added, I am ready to vote on Commissioner
Carollo's motion.
Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded? Any discussion? Call the roll.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Carollo, who moved
its adoption:
MOTION NO. 87-352
A MOTION AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER
TO ALLOCATE $30,000 FOR "FLORIDA HOUSING COOPERATIVE
INC." IN CONNECTION WITH THE PURCHASE OF PROPERTY FOR
CONVERSION TO LOW AND MODERATE INCOME COOPERATIVE
HOUSING, WITH THE PROVISION THAT:
A) THE CITY AUDIT HAS BEEN TOTALLY CLEARED;
B) IF ANY PROCEEDS ARE DERIVED FROM THE CONVERSION,
SUCH PROCEEDS SHALL COME BACK TO THE CITY COMMISSION
FOR FURTHER CONSIDERATION AT THAT TIME;
C) IF THE PROJECT IS NOT BUILT WITHIN 12 MONTHS, THE
430,000 SHALL BE REPAID TO THE CITY.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
ABSENT: None.
ON ROLL CALL:
Mrs. Kennedy: I hope that you prove me wrong, and I hope that it works, but I
have to vote "no". -
Mayor Suarez: "Yes". Thank you, just as you were losing your patience, you
got the $30,000, with certain stipulations. (COMMENTS IN SPANISH)
(APPLAUSE)
60. EXECUTE AGREEMENT WITH LATIN CHAMBER OF COMMERCE FOR VIII HEMISPHERIC
CONGRESS OF LATIN CHAMBERS OF COMMERCE AND INDUSTRY.
Mr. Dawkins: The Godfather has got to go home, can we hear 74?
Mr. Plummer: Who is the Godfather?
Mr. Dawkins: He will be up as soon as you see 74. Call 74, Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Suarez: Item 74, and we are going to take the elderly gentlemen that
has been waiting all day, too. Not all of you are elderly, but...
Mr. Dawkins: Hey, J.L. ...
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Mr. Odio: Commissioner Plummer, if you Mould go ahead and pass this
resolution, we are in support of what they are requesting, `-lf.e^^
Mr. Dawkins: Of what, of item 74?
Mr. Odio: Yes, sir.
Mr. Dawkins: Move it.
Mr. Plummer: Second.
Mr. Dawkins: Move itt,
Mayor Suarez: Item 74 is moved and seconded. Any discussion? Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Dawkins, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 87-353
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE
AN AGREEMENT, IN A FORM ACCEPTABLE TO THE CITY
ATTORNEY, WITH THE LATIN CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, INC., TO
IMPLEMENT THE $34,000 CITY OF MIAMI ALLOCATION IN
SUPPORT OF THE VIII HEMISPHERIC CONGRESS OF LATIN
CHAMBERS OF COMMERCE AND INDUSTRY; WITH SAID FUNDS
APPROPRIATED IN THE CITY'S 1986-87 FISCAL YEAR BUDGET.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
Mayor Suarez: You guys were very eloquent today again, Latin Chamber of
Commerce.
61. WAIVE $800 OWED BY FEDERACION DE SOFTBALL DE CUBA LIBRE FOR USE OF CITY
PARKS - SAID GROUP TO PAY $15/DAY FOR USE OF CITY PARKS.
Mr. Odlo: In order to save time... Mr. Mayor, item 75, I am prepared to
recommend... we have an...
Mayor Suarez: Which item, 75?
Mr. Odio: The reason that... 75 is the baseball league, the softball league.
Mayor Suarez: OK, great.
Mr. Odio: I am prepared to offer this since... what happened is, that we...
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Mayor Suarez: Please!
Mr. Odio: We are prepared to recommend the following. We had to apply the
ordinance on the fees that the Parks Department had to everybody, so what we
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are requesting from you then, that we grandfather these leagues in, that have
been playing there for 25 years and that instead of charging them the full
rate of the ordinance, that we go ahead and charge them the $15 per Z---, Sr4
that therefore they only own the City $800 instead of the $3,000 the
Department said they owed, so I am proffering that...
Mr. Dawkins: You recommend that?
Mr. Odio: I recommend...
Mr. Plummer: Wait, a minute, whoa, whoa. You are saying $800 that they owe.
Mr. Odio: Because what happened is... they owe more...
Mr. Plummer: OK.
Mr. Odio: ... because we used the old rate.
Mr. Plummer: But now, what are they asking for right now?
Mr. Odio: All they... they wanted to that we use the old rates.
Mr. Plummer: You are asking...
Mr. Ramiro Chong: We are... with your permission...
Mr. Plummer: Make it very brief.
Mayor Suarez: Name and address.
Mr. Chong: OK, I will try to be very brief, so Mayor Suarez, and Vice -Mayor
Plummer, Commissioner Kennedy...
Mayor Suarez: You are already not being brief!
Mr. Chong: First of all, let me say this. My name is Ramiro Chong, C•-h-o-n-
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Mr. Plummer: No commercials!
Mr. Chong: No commercials.
Mayor Suarez: Don't worry about the introductions. Get to what it is that
you are...
Mr. Chong: OK, first of all we would like to thank the City Commissioners and
the Mayor for allowing us to be here this afternoon on behalf of the
Federacion de Softball de Cuba Libre. Most of you have a received a letter by
Commissioner Emilio Arrechadera, mailed it to you, directly.
Mr. Plummer: What's the bottom line?
Mr. Chong: OK, the bottom line here is the following: We are here just to
request to the City officials, City Commissioners and the Mayor, that the fee
that was imposed to our organization at the present time, is to waive the
rental fee at the present time for the continuous or tournament that we have
every Sunday. Also, we recognize at the present time that there is a balance
due of $600 owed because of the winter league has not finished yet, so this is
our petition in behalf of more than 500 players, that every Sunday afternoon,
they play in the...
Mr. Plummer: Is that what you are willing to do?
Mr. Odio: No, Sir.
Mr. Carollo: Ramiro, how much you want? How much you want?
Mr. Chong: Excuse me?
Mr. Carollo: What do you need?
Mr. Chong: What we need In a waiver of the fee of this use of the rental.
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Mr. Odio: No, I recommend against that.
Mr. Plummer: OK.
Mr. Chong: There are too many people talking. I cannot hear.
Mr. Odio: The fee is $61.50 per the ordinance and I am recommending $15
which is sufficient to mark the field and...
Mr. Plummer: Can you afford $15?
Mr. Chong: Well, if ,this imposition by the City officials, or the City of
Miami, yes, we will accept it, but remember...
Mr. Plummer: How about...
Mr. Chong:... we had to impose...
Mr. Plummer: Whoa. How about...
Mr. Odio: Wait a minute.
Mayor Suarez: But... the buts are very dangerous around here.
Mr. Plummer: How about if we waive the $800 and reduce you back to the $15?
Mr. Odio: No, but he is using the word, imposition. I want you to know, sir,
that everybody else is paying $61.
Mayor Suarez: All right, that is just a technical word. It just means that
what the City requires.
Mr. Carollo: Well, I will make the motion that we waive the $800 and charge
you a $15 fee per game.
Mr. Plummer: Second the motion.
Mayor Suarez: So moved and seconded. Any discussion? Call the roll on that.
Mr. Chong: On behalf of the Federacion de Cuba Libre, I would like to thank
you City Commissioners...
Mr. Dawkins: We didn't call the roll yet.
Mr. Plummer: You haven't won yet!
Mr. Chong: Oh, OK.
Mayor Suarez: Call the roll.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Carollo, who moved
its adoption:
MOTION NO. 87-354
A MOTION GRANTING A REQUEST FROM REPRESENTATIVES OF
FEDERACION DE SOFTBALL DE CUBA LIBRE TO WAIVE $800 THEY
PRESENTLY OWE THE CITY OF MIAMI FOR PRIOR USE OF CITY
PARKS; FURTHER DIRECTING THE ADMINISTRATION TO COMMENCE
CHARGING SAID GROUP $15 PER DAY FOR USE OF THE PARKS.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote-
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AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Mayor Suarez: Is that $15 per day, or per game?
Mr. Chong: Per day.
Mayor Suarez: It is per day, right.
Mr. No, it is per game.
Mr. Chong: You mean, each park that we use, we have to pay $15 per use of the
park, or just for one day $15. Let's just clarify that point, there will you
please?
Mr. Odio: How many games do you play a day?
Mr. Chong: We play now at five different parks.
Mr. Odlo: How many games per park?
Mr. Chong: Double header, two games. If the position is that you are
talking...
Mayor Suarez: Wait a minute, wait.
Mr. Odio: Well, we have to have employees there, we have to...
Mayor Suarez: If we grandfather them, it was supposed to be $15, is that what
they used to pay, $15 per day?
Mr. Carollo: $15 per day per park.
Mr. Chong: Per day per park.
Mr. Odio: The ordinance said before $15 per game, and we are willing to
grandfather them in to what it used to be.
Mayor Suarez: Do you want it to say $15 per day per park and be done with it.
Mr. Carollo: Yes, but that ordinance is an 18 inning ordinance. They are
playing 9 innings per game now, to make the 18 innings.
Mr. Plummer: Hey, let's make it simple. My understanding of Mr. Carollo's
ordinance were per day. That was my understanding.
Mr. Carollo: That's what I said.
Mr. Chong: $15 is what we pay you now.
Mayor Suarez: Don't say anythingl It is going real good for you right now.
Mr. Plummer: You better be quite, you are going to lose...
Mayor Suarez: OK, we have a clarification. Do we need to take a vote on it?
We never took a vote on it, so it is clarified. Nov we take a vote on it.
Mr. Carollo: Mr. Odio, now where do you buy your clock radios at? I'm
beginning to wonder now. You know, you are trying mess my ordinance up here.
Mr. Odio: I buy them at
Mayor Suarez: Call the roll.
Mr. Plummer: This is on the clarification?
(NOTE FOR THE RECORD: THEREUPON, ROLL WAS CALLED ON CLARIFICATION, WHICH WAS -
INCORPORATED INTO FIRST MOTION, SEE HEREINABOVE) _
..wwuwr: Go away and sin no more.
Mayor Suarez: Good by.
Mr. Chong: OK, thank you very much.
Mayor Suarez: You were very eloquent and you shut up at all the right times.
62. THANK CENTRUST TOWER FOR THEIR CONTRIBUTION TO CITY (See label 032)
Mayor Suarez: Item 54.
Mr. Carollo: Before you bring 54, let me bring up a quick item...
Mayor Suarez: Commissioner.
Mr. Carollo: Having to do with Centrust.
Mr. Plummer: That was the one deferred?
Mayor Suarez: Yes, I am sorry. Yes, Rich has been sitting here earning $200
an hour.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, can I bring up 47 and 48? I understand that...
Mr. Carollo: This'll just be one second, J.L.
Mr. Plummer: Oh, I am sorry, go ahead.
Mayor Suarez: On the Centrust Towers.
Mr. Carollo: I would like to make a motion that we accept the contributions
that the Centrust Tower has been making for some time now, lighting up their
tower for the benefit of all the City of Miami, and at the same time express
our gratitude to Centrust and their chairman of the board, David Paul, for the
contribution that they have been providing to this community and that this
Commission accepts that contribution without the need of any further
contributions for the additions that they need the approval from us thereon.
Mr. Dawkins: I second with the stipulation that they must light the building
up Christmas.
Mayor Suarez: Thank you. Moved and seconded. That doesn't take anything
away from any other contributions they might voluntarily want to make to light
up Miami, or whatever. Any further discussion? Call the roll.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Carollo, who moved
its adoption:
MOTION NO. 87-355
A MOTION STATING THAT THE CITY OF MIAMI COMMISSION
GRATEFULLY ACCEPTS THE CONTRIBUTION THAT CENTRUST
TOWER HAS BEEN MAKING FOR SOME TIME TO THIS COMMUNITY
BY LIGHTING UP THE CENTRUST TOWER BUILDING IN THE
EVENINGS, FURTHER STATING THAT THE CITY GLADLY ACCEPTS
THEIR CONTRIBUTION WITHOUT NEED OF ANY ADDITIONAL
CONTRIBUTION ON THEIR PART.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Dawkins, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote-
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AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
rnmminsioner Rosario Kennedy
vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
Mayor Suarez: Thank you for your patience, Rich.
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63. APPROVE ISSUANCE OF FLORIDA HEALTH FACILITIES AUTHORITY HOSPITAL REVENUE
BONDS FOR CEDARS MEDICAL CENTER (See label 043)
Mr. Dawkins: Go ahead, J. L.
Mayor Suarez: This reminds me of...
Mr. Plummer: I'd like to bring up item 47 and 48, Mr. Mayor, this is a
pressing problem. This is in reference to the hospitals and the revolving
hospital insurance funds. I understand that pretty much it is understood what
it is now. There is no liability to the City. I would offer item 47 at this
time.
Mr. Odio: Will you add just that they have to pay $15,000.
Mr. Plummer: That's understood.
Mrs. Dougherty: And $10,000 in legal fees.
Mr. Dawkins: OK, I second the motion with the under...
Mr. Carollo: Wait a minute, I don't understand this, 47 and 48 - revenue
bonds and how much?
Mr. Plummer: This is through the hospital authority, Joe, it is not through
the City.
Mrs. Kennedy: The City is not...
Mr. Carollo: $100,000,000?
Mr. Dawkins: $105,000,000.
Mr. Plummer: It is not through the City.
Mayor Suarez: I guess a hundred ten all together.
Mrs. Kennedy: The City is not liable.
Mr. Plummer: Absolutely not!
Mr. Dawkins: They have to make it up. They are responsible, we are not
liable at all. They are liable.
Mrs. Dougherty: Only the revenues will pay for it, but I want to put on the
record that we are also charging $10,000 per thing, per bond issue for our
legal fees.
Mr. Carollo: You know, we should have brought this up when Mr. Kuntz was
here. It is something that would have interested him, I think.
Mr. Dawkins: When who was here?
Mr. Carollo: Kuntz.
Mr. Plummer: Oh, oh. I move item 47.
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Mayor Suarez: I second with the stipulation that was... I've made an
agreement that they will give some minority participation in all aspects of
nalluii►,s
Mayor Suarez: So moved and seconded. Any discussion? Call the roll on 47.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 87-356
A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE ISSUANCE OF CITY OF MIAMI,
FLORIDA HEALTH FACILITIES AUTHORITY HOSPITAL REVENUE
BONDS IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $65,000,000 TO
FINANCE A CAPITAL PROJECT FOR CEDARS MEDICAL CENTER,
INC.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Dawkins, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
Mr. Carollo: Only if they include an American Indian in that minority.
64. APPROVE ISSUANCE OF FLORIDA HEALTH FACILITIES AUTHORITY HOSPITAL REVENUE
BONDS FOR MERCY HOSPITAL INC. (See label 043)
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Mr. Plummer: Agenda item 48, assuming I have no conflict of interest by
serving on that board, I move item 48.
Mayor Suarez: So moved.
Mr. Dawkins: I second with the same provisions...
Mayor Suarez: Stipulations.
Mr. Dawkins: ... that they have to get a lot of minority participation and
If they got some American Indians in the Everglades that we most Commissioner
Carollo's requirement that an American Indian accountant be placed with this.
Mr. Carollo: There is one running in the City of Miami that I know.
Mayor Suarez: So moved and seconded. Any discussion? Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 87-357
A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE ISSUANCE OF CITY OF MIAMI,
FLORIDA HEALTH FACILITIES AUTHORITY HOSPITAL REVENUE
BONDS IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $45,000,000 TO
FINANCE A CAPITAL PROJECT FOR MERCY HOSPITAL, INC.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
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Upon being seconded by Commissioner Dawkins, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the folInwino vnta-
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
65. ADDITIONAL SERVICES REQUIRED OF TOXICOLOGY TESTING SERVICES - URINE
SAMPLES FOR DRUG SCREENING TEST.
!Mayor Suarez: Itss 54.
Mr. Odio: This is to ratify the action of the additional services required
for toxicology testing services. This the drug testing.
Mr. Dawkins: Move it.
Mayor Suarez: $6,000, wowt
Mr. Odio: Yes, sir.
Mrs. Kennedy: What item?
Mr. Odio: Drug testing, 54.
Mayor Suarez: Any second?
Mr. Plummer: Second.
Mayor Suarez: It is only $6,000. Moved and seconded. Any discussion? Call
the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Dawkins, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 87-358
A RESOLUTION RATIFYING, APPROVING AND CONFIRMING, BY A
4/5THS AFFIRMATIVE VOTE OF THE MEMBERS OF THE CITY
COMMISSION, THE ACTIONS OF THE CITY MANAGER IN FINDING
THE ADDITIONAL SERVICES REQUIRED OF TOXICOLOGY TESTING
SERVICES BY PROVIDING STAFF TO BE PHYSICALLY PRESENT
AT CEDARS MEDICAL CENTER TO WITNESS THE COLLECTION OF
URINE SAMPLES FROM THE DRUG SCREENING TEST TO BE AN
EMERGENCY EXPENSE AND IN AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE OF
AN EMERGENCY PURCHASE ORDER FOR THE EXPENDITURE OF
SAID DRUG SCREENING TESTS TO TOXICOLOGY TESTING
SERVICE FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF POLICE AT A TOTAL COST
OF $6,000.00; ALLOCATING FUNDS THEREFOR FROM THE 1986-
87 OPERATING BUDGET.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote-
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AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
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Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
66. AMEND AGREEMENT WITH LITTLE HAVANA DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY IN DEVELOPMENT
OF LATIN QUARTER.
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Mayor Suarez: Agenda item 55.
Mr. Odic: This is authorizing an amendment to an agreement with the Little
Havana Development Authority by extending the contract for a period of two
months to June 26th.
Mr. Dawkins: Move it.
Mr. Plummer: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded. Any discussion? Call the roll on 55.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Dawkins, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 87-359
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE
AN AMENDMENT, IN SUBSTANTIALLY THE FORM ATTACHED
HERETO, TO THE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE LITTLE HAVANA
DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY AND THE CITY OF MIAMI FOR
PROFESSIONAL SERVICES OF SAID AUTHORITY IN THE
DEVELOPMENT OF A LATIN QUARTER IN THE CITY OF MIAMI IN
ACCORDANCE WITH THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS AS SET FORTH
THEREIN.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
NOTE FOR THE RECORD: Items 56 and 58 were deferred.
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67. APPOINT GARY McGEEGAN TO THE CITY OF M1AMI/UNIVERSITY OF MIAMI JAMES L.
KNIGHT INTERNATIONAL CENTER ADVISUhY COMMITTEE.
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Mr. Dawkins: Joe's got an appointment for item 57.
Mr. Carollo: I am going to name Gary McGeegan, he is the general manager of
the Holiday Inn at Brickell.
Mayor Suarez: So moved.
Mr. Carollo: Brickell Point.
Mayor Suarez: So moved. Do we have a second?
Mr. Dawkins: Second.
Mr. Plummer: Second.
Mrs. Kennedy: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Seconded, any discussion? Call the roll on 57.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Carollo, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 87-360
A RESOLUTION NOMINATING AND APPOINTING A CERTAIN
INDIVIDUAL TO THE CITY OF MIAMI/UNIVERSITY OF MIAMI
JAMES L. KNIGHT INTERNATIONAL CENTER ADVISORY
COMMITTEE.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Dawkins, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
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NOTE FOR THE RECORD: Item 59 was deferred.
68. APPOINT SHAWN HERNESS AND MANUEL JOHN GONZALEZ TO THE YOUTH ADVISORY
COUNCIL.
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Mayor Suarers Agenda item 60, I've got Manuel John Gonzalez for the Youth
Advisory Council. Commissioner Carollo has another appointment.
Mr. Carollo: Yes, i am going to name Shawn Herness.
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Mayor Suarez: Moved it.
Mr. Plummer: Second.i
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Mayor Suarez: Moved both of them, seconded, any discussion? Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Co:n6nissione: Dawkins, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 87-361
A RESOLUTION APPOINTING TWO (2) INDIVIDUALS TO THE
CITY OF MIAMI YOUTH ADVISORY COUNCIL FOR THE REMAINDER
OF A TERM OF OFFICE EXPIRING MAY 6TH, 1988.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clark.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Pluraner, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
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69. APPOINT MICKEY MUSKAT TO THE BAYSIDE MINORITY BOARD.
Mr. Carollo: For the Bayside Minority Board, I had to name a replacement. I
am going to name Mickey Muskat.
Mayor Suarez: OK, so moved, do we have a second?
Mr. Dawkins: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Seconded, any discussion? Call the roll.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Carollo, who moved
its adoption:
MOTION NO. 87-362
A MOTION APPOINTING MICKEY MUSKAT TO THE BAYSIDE
MINORITY BOARD.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Dawkins, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
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70. WAIVE BIDDING PROCESS FOR COMPUTER AIDED DRAFTING AND DESIGN SYSTEM
PURCHASED FROM HOLGUIN AND HEWLETT-PACKARD.
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Mayor Suarez: Agenda item 65.
Mr. Carollo: That is the one you wanted, right?
Mr. Odio: This is waiving the requirement for formal sealed bids and
authorizing the purchase of additional equipment, maintenance and support for
the City's computer aided drafting and design system from Holguin and Hewlett-
Packard. This cost is not to exceed $50,000. We have funds at the C.I.P.,
computer aided drafting and design systems. This is needed for the Public
Works Department.
Mr. Plummer: Move it.
Mayor Suarez: Moved.
Mr. Kennedy: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Seconded, any discussion? Call the roll. It needs four/fifths.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 87-363
A RESOLUTION WAIVING THE REQUIREMENTS FOR FORMAL
SEALED BIDS FOR FURNISHING ADDITIONAL EQUIPMENT AND
MAINTENANCE AND SUPPORT AGREEMENTS FOR THE CITY'S
COMPUTER AIDED DRAFTING AND DESIGN SYSTEM FOR THE
DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS; ALLOCATING AN AMOUNT NOT
TO EXCEED $50,000 FROM THE ACCOUNT ENTITLED "COMPUTER
AIDED DRAFTING AND DESIGN SYSTEM -PHASE II" PROJECT
#314223; FURTHER AUTHORIZING THE PURCHASE FROM HOLGUIN
AND HEWLETT-PACKARD AT A TOTAL PROPOSED COST OF
$50.000; AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO INSTRUCT THE
PURCHASING AGENT TO ISSUE A PURCHASE ORDER FOR THIS
EQUIPMENT; FURTHER PROVIDING FOR THE ADOPTION OF THE
FINDINGS AND CONCLUSIONS SET FORTH IN THE PREAMBLE OF
THIS RESOLUTION BY A FOUR -FIFTHS AFFIRMATIVE VOTE OF
THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Kennedy, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
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71, WAIVE BIDDING PROCESS FOR A COMPUTER FLEET COMMAND SYSTEM PURCHASED FROM
THE MAINSTEM CORPORATION.
Mayor Suarez: Agenda item 66.
Mr. Dawkins: That is four/fifths vote.
Mr. Odio: This is waiving the requirement for formal sealed bids and
authorizing the purchase of a fleet command system from Mainstem Corp.
Mr. Dawkins: Move it.
Mayor Suarez: Moved.
Mrs. Kennedy: Second.
Mr. Plummer: This is the only source?
Mr. Odio: Yes, sir.
Mayor Suarez: Seconded, Commissioner?
Mrs. Kennedy: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Seconded. Any discussion? Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Dawkins, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 87-364
A RESOLUTION, BY A 4/5THS AFFIRMATIVE VOTE OF THE
MEMBERS OF THE CITY COMMISSION AFTER A DULY ADVERTISED
PUBLIC HEARING, RATIFYING THE CITY MANAGER'S FINDING
OF SOLE SOURCE; WAIVING THE REQUIREMENTS FOR
COMPETITIVE SEALED BIDS AND APPROVING THE PURCHASE OF
A FLEET COMMAND SYSTEM, WHICH IS A COMPUTER SOFTWARE
PARTS AND EQUIPMENT INVENTORY PACKAGE FROM THE
MAINSTEM CORPORATION FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF FIRE,
RESCUE AND INSPECTION SERVICES AT A PROPOSED COST OF
$19,120,00 ALLOCATING FUNDS THEREFOR FROM CAPITAL
IMPROVEMENT PROJECT NO. #313212, AUTHORIZING THE CITY
MANAGER TO INSTRUCT THE CHIEF PROCUREMENT OFFICER TO
ISSUE A PURCHASE ORDER FOR THIS EQUIPMENT.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Kennedy, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
NOTE FOR THE RECORD: Continue item 67 to the next meeting.
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72. BRIEF DISCUSSION REGARDING FRIENDS OF THE CARIBBEAN.
Mayor Suarez: Agenda item 72.
Mr. Odio: 70, I do not know if you took, Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Suarez: I've got to reflect that it hasn't been considered. What is
it?
Mr. Odio: The Friends of the Caribbean, are requesting...
Mayor Suarez: I am sorry, I don't believe we have heard from them, unless it
has been withdrawn.
Mr. Odio: No, they are requesting $60,000. Before you go ahead and consider
this, they still owe monies to the Greater Miami Host Committee in the amount
of $2,900.
Mayor Suarez: Wait a minute, are they here?
Mr. Odio: I don't know if they are here or not, but...
Mr. Carollo: Who are the Friends of the Caribbean?
Mayor Suarez: Friends of the Caribbean.
Mr. Plummer: They are out trying to raise the $2,900 they owe us.
Mr. Odio: They are not even here, so...
Mayor Suarez: They owe us money and they wanted to come in and ask for
additional monies?
Mr. Plummer: That way, we... you know.
Mr. Carollo: They are not being very good friends right now.
Mr. Odio: They do owe us money.
Mr. Plummer: So it is withdrawn?
Mayor Suarez: Withdrawn, I mean, they are not here to make a presentation.
73. WAIVE ORANGE BOWL RENTAL FEE FOR "STAND UP AMERICA FOUNDATION" TO HOLD
CONCERT.
Mayor Suarez: Item 72, Stand Up America.
Mr. Richard Martin: My name is Richard Martin, and I am here on behalf of
the...
Mr. Plummer: Has this matter been presented to the Administration?
Mr. Martin: No, it has not. To the Administration, I believe it was spoken
to by Ms. Ruth Bacardi and Mr. Gomez.
Mr. Odio: He came to see me with her.
Mr. Plummer: And What is the recommendation of the Administration?
Mr. Odio: We have no funds. We are denying... we are recommending against
it. I still told them they had the right to come here today, but...
Mr. Plummer: Right, OK, thank you.
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Mr. Martin: May we continue?
Mr. Plummer: Sure, you can try to overcome that, if you wish.
Mr. Martin: OK, we are here... I am here in behalf of the Stand Up America
Foundation, whose goal is to help finance and support a complete drug
rehabilitation service delivery system, which is going to be established and
maintained by Dade County. Mr. Doug Hughs has been mandated to establish this
system and what our goals are is to help raise funds so that this system can
go forward. The two major reasons, of course, of having a program like this
Is that in the Citx of Miami and the rest of Dade County, there are
insufficient beds, and insufficient places for people to go and be
rehabilitated and detoxed and educated and to get their lives in order. There
are tens of thousands of people in Miami and the rest of Dade County that are
in serious need and we understand that the budgets of the County, the City and
the State are limited, so it is our goal to try to raise money to do this.
Secondly, there is an image problem in Miami and we are hoping that with our
efforts to raise money, that rather than being the drug capital of the world,
this would be the drug rehabilitation capital of the world. We are affiliated
with the SER - Jobs For Progress, which is one of the most successful
mediation and jobs training programs for disadvantaged individuals in Miami
and in 64 other locations throughout the United States. With SER - Jobs for
Progress, there is a number of corporate, private sector supporters, including
AT&T, FP&L, Southern Bell, and this list of another about 20 major
corporations in South Florida. We had lunch with them today. They are
supportive of our efforts, but we need to show them that Dade County, the
State of Florida, and in particular, the City of Miami, are supporting our
efforts to raise hopefully, millions of dollars to further establish the
rehabilitation delivery system.
Mr. Plummer: Why in particular the City of Miami?
Mr. Martin: Why in particular?
Mr. Plummer:... That is your statement.
Mr. Martin: OK, what our attempt is, that this is going to be a model program
in Miami that is going to stretch throughout the United States.
Mr. Plummer: OK, let's get to the bottom line, OK?
Mr. Martin: All right.
Mr. Plummer: You and your indications of what I was given as particulars. We
realize the Orange Bowl seats $75,000 people.
Mr. Martin: Right.
Mr. Plummer: And there is no question in my mind that if you were able to
secure the services of Bruce Springsteen, to appear there, that it would be a
worthwhile endeavor, including Nancy Reagan's appearance.
Mr. Martin: Right.
Mr. Plummer: Now, what guarantee... do you have any commitment in writing
that they will appear?
Mr. Martin: Our commitment at this point in time is verbal by the agents of
these people. We need to secure a facility and a date, upon which we will
receive a letter of intent...
Mr. Plummer: What is the date that you are looking at?
Mr. Martin: September 12th, it is a Saturday. It will just follow the Pope's
visit, so that there will be a lot of excitement in that week we thought that
that would be the best...
Mr. Plummer: I am assuming that this corporation is nonprofit?
Mr. Martin: That In correct.
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Mrs. Kennedy: That is my question, if you were a nonprofit corporation.
Mr. Martin: It is a not for profit corporation.
Mr. Carollo: I move that request, subject to they secure one of the major -
names that they have mentioned, or someone equal to one of the names that they
mentioned.
Mr. Plummer: What? Well now, excuse me, what we are doing is, we are waiving
only the rental.
Mr. Martin: Well, our request was for also other services which are within
the control of the City of Miami.
Mr. Plummer: We can't do it.
Mr. Odio: They are talking about $133,000.
Mr. Plummer: Exactly, we can't do that!
Mrs. Kennedy: I guess the question we have to address is, if they are
charging money, which they are...
Mr. Odio: $27 a ticket.
Mrs. Kennedy: Right, how much break to we want to give them?
Mr. Plummer: Well, what we are talking about, as I understand it is the
rental of the Orange Bowl.
Mr. Odio: Oh, no, no, they want the whole bundle.
Mr. Plummer: No, no, I am saying that is what I am talking about.
Mr. Martin: OK.
Mr. Carollo: I think that we might possibly be able to consider some
additional waivers, but I think we have done already, what you need in order
to secure some of the names that you mentioned, at least, what you said, so...
Mr. Plummer: A date and a commitment on a waiver of the rental.
Mr. Carollo: So, you know, you made your move, we made ours. Next move will
be yours. You have got bring a signed acceptance from one of these people you
mentioned.
Mr. Martin: Would a written letter of intent...?
Mr. Plummer: No, a commitment.
Mr. Martin: No.
Mr. Carollo: A commitment is what we need.
Mr. Martin: You want a full signed contractual agreement.
Mr. Plummer: A letter of commitment is fine.
Mr. Martin: A letter of commitment.
Mrs. Kennedy: Let me ask, is this just an educational program?
Mr. Martin: No, what our efforts are is funding for a complete rehabilitation
delivery system; in other words, there will be one source to people who have
dependency on illegal substances can go to, and from there they will be
directed into the proper places for rehabilitation, detoxification, education
and once they are beyond that, into the SER — Jobs For Progress program, to
hopefully train them so that they can become a working member of society
again.
Mr. Plummer: Who will be the governing board of this Stand Up America
Foundation?
Mr. Martin: The current governing board includes Dr. Alfred Damus, Miss Ruth
ROMOVAi Marshall Frey, Javier Huerta, Pablo Gomez, Betina Rod-Inclan and
Maria Guymayi, most of whom are here today.
Mr. Plummer: Right.
Mrs. Kennedy: And out of these, how many are trained in this field?
Mr. Martin: Dr. Damus and there will be several other doctors that will be
participating, once we have gotten further along.
Mrs. Kennedy% Dr. Damus... not Nicky Damus?
Mr. Martin: I don't believe, is that his nickname?
Mr. Plummer: Damus.
Mrs. Kennedy: Demus.
Mr. Plummer: No, he is a urologist.
Mr. Martin: No, I don't believe so.
Mr. Plummer: I guess what we are expressing in the concern, let's assume that
you are successful, OK?
Mr. Martin: Correct.
Mr. Plummer: And you do have $8,000.000.
Mr. Martin: Right.
Mr. Plummer: Who is going to be sitting on the authority to disburse those
funds?
Mr. Martin: Our commitment, according to the bylaws which we are voting on
next week, is to send these funds into the Dade County drug rehabilitation
delivery system. In other words, we...
Mr. Dawkins: You just lost me, OK?
Mr. Martin: OK, in other words, the County is setting up...
Mr. Dawkins: No, no, see, that... everywhere there is a drug rehabilitation
center, it is not in the hub of the area where we got the problem. So, if you
give the money to the same agency... I mean, I am with you 100 percent, OK?
All right, before I say anything, you have to know that I am with you, OK?
Mr. Martin: All right.
Mr. Dawkins: But, I am not with giving the money to the same agency who is
not doing a damn thing, OK? If we are going to raise money and you are going
to be new and innovative, then do something new and innovative, and go about
it in a different way.
Mr. Martin: We certainly do not want to give money to anyone that is not
going to be innovative. What we want to do is correct the problems that
exist.
Mr. Dawkins: Then you got me. I'm still with you.
Mr. Plummer: Look, as far as I am concerned, Commissioner Carollo has made a
motion, which I second, that is, to waive the rental, get your letter of
commitment, come back here from both of those parties, that they will appear,
OK?... and then maybe we will talk something further about more involvement.
But, what you wanted was a date and a commitment, you've got it. Now, you get
your commitment from Nancy Reagan and From Bruce Springsteen and come back.
Mayor Suarez: We will go to our second commitment then.
Mr. Martina OK, that sound very fair.
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Mayor Suarez: Thank you. That's in the form of a motion?
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Mr. Dawkins: Yes, J. L. made a second.
Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded. Any discussion, call the roll on 72.
Mr. Plummer: Now, if you are successful, we might put other stipulations.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Carollo, who moved
its adoption:
MOTION NO. 87-365
A MOTION AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO
WAIVE THE RENTAL FEE FOR USE OF THE ORANGE BOWL IN
CONNECTION WITH A CONCERT TO BE HELD BY THE "STAND UP
AMERICA FOUNDATION", SUBJECT TO SAID GROUP SECURING A
LETTER OF COMMITMENT FROM AT LEAST TWO MAJOR WELL
KNOWN PERSONALITIES THAT WILL APPEAR AT SAID CONCERT.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
Mayor Suarez: Thank you for your presentation.
Mr. Martin: Thank you..
Mayor Suarez: We will be as supportive as we can.
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74. DISCUSSION BY KEN PATRICK OF FLORIDA'S SUNSHINE STATE GAMES REGARDING
GYMNASTICS TRIALS IN MIAMI
Mayor Suarez: Agenda item 73.
Mr. Plummer: Of which foundation?
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Mr. Plummer: We will find out when we hear your recommendation.
Mayor Suarez: This sounds like a City Manager item here and he...
Mr. Odio: I want to put it up front. I am a member of the Sunshine State
Games Foundation and I hate to tell you this, but I am still recommending
against it, based on the same policy of not funding, Commissioners.
Mayor Suarez: OK, go ahead, sir.
Mr. Ken Patrick: I do not come for a request of any kind today. I've seen
the handwriting on the wall for the...
Mayor Suarez: Then we approve it.
Mr. Patrick: You approved...
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Mayor Suarez: Then we approve, whatever it is your here for!
M- o,�-+..y. ,,.. ---� ,_ •�-- ^•�•+��► T Am the Miami region coordinator for
the Sunshine State Games and the Florida Sunshine State Games are coming to
Miami this year in June for the first time. Last year in Tampa, State wide we
had 18,210 participants in the State games. This year we expect to have
40,000 people State wide. The games are funded through the Sunshine State
Games Foundation, which was a brain child of Governor Bob Graham, back about
eight years ago. Jimmy Conners is on the Olympic Committee, is the executive
director. The foundation has a two -fold approach to athletics in Florida.
Number one, participate and have Florida amateur athletes participate in
Olympic competition over the State. The second part is to help bring national
and international events to the State of Florida. A research study was done
in 1985 that showed that the economic and tax revenue impact from amateur
sports national championships nationwide was in excess of four billion dollars
a year. There are 715 amateur athletic organizing bodies nationwide. The
study included 150 of these agencies. The economic impact from these 150
national championships, dollars and revenue to the City was $681,000,000. The
tax revenues generated were $45,000,000. Based on those projections, the 715
organizations across the country, you find that there is two billion dollars
that be generated in revenues to cities and states that are hosting these
events. In addition, 90 percent of these sports organizations hold
conventions and that revenue producing aspect is at least as great or more,
producing the four billion dollars a year. The market, there are fifty states
and probably only a handful that really can compete with the State of Florida.
My job is not only to put on the regional State games, but to bring events to -
Miami. In your packets are the events that are being bid State wide, or that
are available. The ones that we have coming up presently, on May 2nd, the
Miami Track Classic, which is featuring Carl Lewis and Evelyn Ashford. We also have the regional State games, which will be June 24th through the 26th,
pending...
Mayor Suarez: Let me interrupt you before I forget. Have you considered
appearing before the newly formed... I think it is Tri-County Sports Council,
that the Chamber of Commerce folks announced recently?
Mr. Odio: Let me explain something, Mr. Mayor. They... that council came to
the Sunshine State Foundation just two weeks ago and at that time I asked them
not to recognize them until they become official, since Mr. Horrow, at the
time, could not... said he had been appointed, so as of this moment, he is
the only one that speaks for these games down here.
Mr. Patrick: Well, last year...
Mayor Suarez: I was thinking that they might be an interesting source of
funding, you know, and...
Mr. Patrick: Yes, it would be. I think it is an excellent marriage. I think
I am that sure...
Mayor Suarez: Although I have a feeling they are going to refer back to us if
you ever go ask them for funding.
Mrs. Kennedy: What do you need from us?
Mr. Patrick: Well, I need another appearance, because of the events, the
gymnastic trials that the Olympic committee, it will be the 18th top men
gymnasts in the United States trying out for the Olympic team in September, we
need the support from the Knight Center, except we don't have the bid. The
bid will be, we thought we would have it by now... the bid will be awarded
next Tuesday, as we understand it, and at time, it is about a $50,000 budget.
What we need to show the foundation, State wide is willing to support this
event, but they are also looking for local support, government support, or if
we can, certainly, private sector support, and I plea, I guess, is just to
recognize the economic impact, that this can mean on Miami, and hopefully, not
only this event, but all the other events that you have in the packet, and the
ones in the future. I rest my case and hope that perhaps on the 30th we can
come back with the other proposal.
Mayor Suarez: Thank you.
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75. ALT.orATP c;n nnn Tn RRTUr. A MA MP TMTa'RNATTONAL SOCCER MATCH (BRAZIL AND
COLUMBIA) TO ORANGE BOWL.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, can I do this resolution here? This is something we
had done previously. (COMMISSIONER PLUMMER READS RESOLUTION INTO THE PUBLIC
RECORD. SEE HEREINBELOW) Mr. Manager, do you recommend this?
Mr. Odio: Yes, sir.
Mr. Plummer: I so move.
Mr. Dawkins: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded. Any discussion. Call the roll. Do we have
a quorum?
Mr. Plummer: Yes, you got three.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 87-366
A RESOLUTION ALLOCATING AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED
$50,000 FROM SPECIAL PROGRAMS AND ACCOUNTS, CONTINGENT
FUND TO BRING A MAJOR INTERNATIONAL SOCCER MATCH
BETWEEN THE PROFESSIONAL TEAMS OF BRAZIL AND COLUMBIA
TO THE MIAMI ORANGE BOWL STADIUM ON MAY 16, 1987, WITH
$17,300 REPRESENTING RENTAL PAYMENTS FOR USE OF SAID
STADIUM ON MARCH 12 AND 14, 1987 BY MIAMI MUNDIAL,
INC., THE SPONSORING ORGANIZATION, AND $16,500
REPRESENTING NET REVENUE FROM PARKING AND CONCESSION
OPERATIONS FOR ORANGE BOWL SOCCER EVENTS ON MARCH 12
AND 14, 1987, WITH AN ADDITIONAL MINIMUM AMOUNT OF
$8,000 REPRESENTING THE RENTAL PAYMENT FOR THE USE OF
SAID STADIUM ON MAY 16, 1987 BY MIAMI MUNDIAL, AND AN
AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $8,200 REPRESENTING ANTICIPATED
NET REVENUE TO BE EARNED FROM PARKING AND CONCESSION
OPERATIONS ON MAY 16, 1987.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Dawkins, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
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76. $300,000 (SURPLUS MONIES FROM OFF-STREET PARKING DEPARTMENT) TO BE
EQUALLY R? V t rT«.. n.•,.......- . «...
Mayor Suarez: Item 78.
Mr. Plummer: Anybody here on 787 You are back again? You don't know when you
are well off?
Mr. Carlos Batista: .I'm Carlos Batista, executive director of the Downtown
Miami Business Association. Two weeks ago, the Department of Off -Street
Parking came over to the Board of Directors of the Downtown Miami Business
Association, to present to us their plan of beginning to enforce parking
meters... charging parking meters on Saturdays and Sundays and evenings, and
they wanted to know the opinion of the Downtown Miami Business Association.
At the time we say that in talking to the merchants and talking to other
businesses, that if that money, if the money coming from the revenues of the
parking meters were to revert back to downtown to be run by an association
like the Downtown Miami Business Association, we will... we could in such a
way, overcome the difficulties that such an enforcement will create on the
merchants and the proximity to Bayside. The Department of Off -Street Parking
say that their suggestion was that we come to the Commission in request for
funds from the $500,000 the Department of Off -Street Parking provides to
the...
Mayor Suarez: Any particular project that the money would be used for?
Mr. Batista: The money would be used for mostly physical improvements and
promotion type of activities that will come, that will attract more people to
the downtown, improve the image.....
Mayor Suarez: From Flagler study, any particular improvement that you are
thinking about it?
Mr. Batista: Related to the Flagler... yes, we have several that we do have
in mind. We have been working on some with the City of Miami here on this
issue.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I would approve such a thing, but that all
expenditures of that money must be approved by this Commission. In other
words, if they get the revenue, and if they are going to use them for any
particular project, before they can use any of those funds, they have got to
come before this Commission and demonstrate in a priority what they are going
to use them for and this Commission will oversee at all times, through a
procedure. I so move.
Mr. Dawkins: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Any particular amount?
Mr. Plummer: No, they are talking about the amount from Saturday and Sunday.
Mr. Odio: Well, $50,000 is what they wanted.
Mr. Batista: $175,000.
Mr. Odio: What?
Mr. Batista: $175,000 from the $500,000 that the City received from the
Department of Off -Street Parking.
Mr. Plummer: Oh, no, no, you are talking about the $500,000 money, or from
the Saturday and Sunday?
Mr. Odio: (INAUDIBLE COMMENT)
Mr. Batista: (INAUDIBLE COMMENT)
Mr. Plummer: Oh, no, no. No, I am sorry, I misunderstood.
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Mr. Batista: OK, to us, it is an either/or... either/or.
Mr. Odio: Oh, I am recommending against tha•c amount because I told you that
we have already have located...
Mayor Suarez: We have allocated $175,000 plus $15,000, at least the first
year, and maybe thereafter, some other years.
Mr. Plummer: And we just gave you $50,000 today.
Mr. Batista: The $50.,000 today was the request that was put in in January.
These are two totally different issues.
Mr. Plummer: Yes, I... the City moves slow!
Mr: Batista: The reason we are here today, on this issue...
Mayor Suarez: Nobody can blame you for not being early on to... the early
bird catches the worm, or something?
Mr. Odio: We met the other day with them, and the D.D.A., and the Department
of Public Works at this moment has engineers and architects working on
redesigning Flagler Street, as you know...
Mr. Batista: That's one of them.
Mr. Plummer: I ►pope they do a hell of a lot better job than they did before.
Mr. Odio: No, it will come here before we do it.
Mayor Suarez: Do we have money ready when all of these redesigns get done for
Flagler Street? We keep telling people we are going to attract...
Mr. Odio: Yes, from the highway improvement funds and the businessmen that
were there will accept the assessment that would require and...
Mr. Plummer: How much money is left in that $500,000?
Mayor Suarez: Can we figure that out?
Mr. Odio: I have to audit that because we already gave away almost $300,000
and some...
Mayor Suarez: No, I don't... I don't count that way. $175,000 recommended
and a $15,000 that...
Mr. Odio: We get three grants out of that. I...
Mayor Suarez: What was the third one now? I am forgetting.
Mr. Dawkins: I am still spending that $500,000 if you have to go City wide?
Mayor Suarez: Yes.
Mr. Plummer: Many times over.
Mr. Dawkins: How much are you spending on Wynwood?
Mr. Odio: How much are we ...?
Mr. Batista: Now, Commissioners, about one/fifth of the parking revenues come
from the downtown area.
Mr. Dawkins: Hold it, hold it.
Mayor Suarez: That is the only big amount we spent.
Mr. Dawkins: Hold it, hold it.
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Mayor Suarez: $175,000 for the Design District?
Mr. Dawkins: All right, let me tell you
Mayor Suarez: Fifteen.
Mr. Dawkins: ... I want "X" earmarked dollars marked for Wynwood, I want "X"
dollars earmarked for Little Havana. I want "X" dollars earmarked for Liberty
City... no, no, hell no, you let me tell you, and then you tell me! ... and
then I want "X" dollars earmarked for Overtown, but you also you told me you
were going to take the $500,000 to service the City and you keep chopping away
at the $500,000 and eventually you aren't going to have any and some areas
would not get any of the $500,000, Mr. Manager.
Mr. Odio: Why don't I propose that we come back to you with a plan the spend
the rest of the money that we have left of the $500,000, and ...
Mr. Dawkins: OK, no, no. OK, how much do you have left out of the $500,0007
Mr. Odio: We have spent $190,000...
Mr. Dawkins: So that is $200,000... so you got $300,000, OK? I can help you
allocate it right now. You got $300,000? How many areas we got - Little
Havana, Wynwood, Downtown, Coconut Grove, Overtown, we've got six areas,
right? So, $50,000 each, that is the end of that.
Mr. Plummer: I second the motion, but with the proviso that all of those
projects and that money must, before they could expend ten cents of it, has to
come back before this Commission.
Mr. Dawkins: With that proviso, I second.
Mayor Suarez: Madam City Clerk, read the motion back.
Ms. Hirai: Mr. Mayor, I need clarification on the beginning of that motion.
Mr. Plummer: Excuse me?
Ms. Hirai: I need clarification on the beginning of that motion.
Mayor Suarez: What was the motion, Commissioner?
Mr. Dawkins: The motion is that... OK, hold it. Mr. Manager, what is the
$500,000? Where did it come from?
Mr. Odio: Off -Street Parking Authority.
Mr. Dawkins: All right, the $500,000 surplus money, from the Off -Street
Parking...
Mr. Plummer: Of which there is $300,000 balance.
Mr. Dawkins: ... of which there if $300,000 left, must be divided between the
six target areas that we just named equally, with the proviso that no money
can be spent in any target area without the approval of this Commission.
Mr. Plummer: No, no. Now identify the six target areas.
Mayor Suarez: Yes, that is what I need.
Mr. Plummer: Downtown was one.
Mr. Dawkins: OK.
Mr. Plummer: Wynwood was one.
Mr. Dawkins: That's right.
Mr. Plummer: Little Havana was one.
Mr. Dawkins: Right. Overtown...
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Mr. Plummer: Overtown was one. Coconut Grove...
Mr. Dawkins: And Liberty City.
Mr. Plummer: And Liberty City.
Mayor Suarez: You know, in a sense, if we are going to do that, we have to
exclude the money already spent, which has been spent, all in Wynwood, as far
as I can tell.
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Mayor Suarez: Yes.
Mr. Dawkins: Well, you see the Bakery Center did help the little people in
Wynwood, I keep telling you people that.
Mr. Plummer: What? Oh, I am sorry, Wynwood has already got their share?
Mr. Dawkins: Not
Mr. Odio: No, we forgot Allapattah there.
Mr. Plummer: Well, you have got to do Allapattah.
Mr. Dawkins: The Bakery Center does not represent those individuals in
Wynwood who...
Mayor Suarez: The Bake House Art Complex...
Mr. Plummer: No, we are talking about the Medical Center.
Mayor Suarez: Not from the $500,000, they didn't get it from the $500,000.
Mr. Castaneda: No, that was...
Mayor Suarez: No, no, it was the Design Center, which could be Wynwood, I
don't know...
Mr. Castaneda: ... it is in Edison.
Mr. Dawkins: We gave money to the Medical Center, Borinquen.
Mayor Suarez: ... right, and Borinquen, both of which are in Wynwood.
Mr. Castaneda: No, the Design Center is in Edison and Wynwood, and the
Borinquen is in Wynwood.
Mr. Plummer: Yes.
Mayor Suarez: OK.
Mr. Plummer: Yes, so we take out Wynwood, because they have got a share, and
we put in there Allapattah.
Mr. Dawkins: That's right, and put Allapattah.
Mr. Plummer: OK, I am agreeable, then.
Mayor Suarez: OK?
Mr. Dawkins: All right, Madam Clerk, so that we will have no
misunderstanding, read in the record the target areas.
Ms. Hirai: The Downtown area, Allapattah, Little Havana, Overtown, Coconut
Grove and Liberty City.
Mr. Plummer: Correct.
Mr. Dawkins: They get $50,000 each.
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Mr. Plummer: Now, you understand, that money is not going to be made
available to the City until October 1? We don't get that money until October
1.
Mr. Dawkins: Now, nobody else can look at the Manager and tell him he got
$500,000, give me a piece of it.
Mr. Batista: OK.
Mayor Suarez: By rough calculations, we are going to end up with about
$40,000 per area, because there is about five...
Mr. Plummer: No, we got six.
Mayor Suarez: Six, oh we substituted, OK.
Mr. Plummer, One, two, three, four, five, six.
Mayor Suarez: Out of $300,000, so that is...
Mr. Plummer: Downtown, Little Havana, Overtown, Coconut Grove, Liberty City
and Allapattah.
Mayor Suarez: So moved and seconded. You've taken a lot of money today!...
$50,000 and $30,000 now. I mean, you can say something if you want, but it
could be...
Mr. Plummer: No, $50,000 and $50,000.
Mr. Batista: $50,000 and $50,000.
Mayor Suarez: It could be deleterious to your health.
Mr. Plummer: Well, let me... don't you say anything. Mr. Mayor, let me say
to you that in the community development of the block grants, downtown Miami
gets the least and has got the least amount of money of all the block grants
and that I think needs to be addressed in this upcoming budget of block grants
and Frank, I am going to be pushing for them.
Mr. Dawkins: And Wynwood is second.
Mr. Plummer: OK, so I am just saying to you that as far as allocations, I am
going to be looking very strong at the downtown allocations.
Mr. Dawkins: And I will be looking to Wynwood.
Mr. Plummer: Call the roll.
Mayor Suarez: Call the roll.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Dawkins, who moved
its adoption:
MOTION NO. 87-367
A MOTION STIPULATING THAT, IN CONNECTION WITH SURPLUS
MONEY RECEIVED FROM THE OFF-STREET PARKING DEPARTMENT (OF
WHICH THERE IS STILL $300,000) THE CITY MANAGER IS
DIRECTED TO EQUITABLY DIVIDE SAID BALANCE AMONG THE CITY'S
SIX TARGET AREAS, NAMELY, DOWNTOWN, ALLAPATTAH, OVERTOWN,
COCONUT GROVE, LITTLE HAVANA, AND LIBERTY CITY); WITH THE
PROVISO THAT NO MONIES SHALL BE EXPENDED IN ANY OF THE
TARGET AREAS UNLESS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED BY THE CITY
COMMISSION.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote-
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AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
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77. STUDY FURTHER ASSISTANCE TO HANDICAPPED IN PUBLIC FACILITIES - WAIVE
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ENTRANCE FEE AT VIRGINIA KEY PARK.
Mayor Suarez: Item 80.
Mr. Plummer: 80.
Mrs. Kennedy: Yes.
Mr. Plummer; We have a letter here on 80.
Mr. George Armitage: 80?
Mayor Suarez: Yes.
Mr. Dawkins: Go right ahead, sir.
Mr. Armitage: George Armitage, 3720 S.W. 72nd Avenue.
Mayor Suarez: I presume you are not being paid for your appearance here
today?
Mr. Armitage: No, sir.
Mayor Suarez: OK.
Mr. Armitage: George Armitage, 3720 S.W. 72nd Avenue. Mr. Denny Wood was
schedule to appear before you today, but Mr. Wood has gone to Tallahassee to
press for some of the handicapped projects in the State Legislature. Mr. Wood
had been over to Virginia Key and the first problem he ran into was with the
$2.00 either entrance and/or parking fee, and there is a State statute which
is worded that municipalities cannot extract a parking fee from handicapped
people who display...
Mayor Suarez: Maybe we can resolve that very quickly. Does the Commission
have any problem agreeing to a waiver for handicapped?
Mr. Plummer: None at all.
Mayor Suarez: Move it, somebody?
Mr. Plummer: Move it.
Mayor Suarez: Moved.
Mr. Dawkins: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Seconded.
Mr. Plummer: All we are doing is complying with State law!
Mayor Suarez: And it sounds like we may have to do it anyhow. OK, any
discussion? Call the roll.
Mr. Armitage: Well...
Mayor Suarez: We are moving quickly on your item, as you can see.
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Mr. Dawkins: We'll get to that one if you got it. Let's get this one out of
the way, sir.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved
its adoption:
MOTION NO. 87-368
A MOTION AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE ADMINISTRATION
TO RESEARCH ALLEGATIONS OF INEQUITIES PRESENTLY BEING
EXPERIENCED BY THE HANDICAPPED REGARDING USE OF CITY
PARKS; FURTHER DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO RESEARCH
THROUGH OUR LOBBYISTS IN WASHINGTON AND TALLAHASSEE
POSSIBLE AVAILABILITY OF FEDERAL AND/OR STATE FUNDS TO
PROPERLY EQUIP CITY PARKS FOR USE BY THE HANDICAPPED;
AND FURTHER DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO WAIVE
ENTRANCE FEE FOR VIRGINIA KEY PARK FOR THE
HANDICAPPED.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Dawkins, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Mr. Dawkins: All right now, does that also apply to the Off Street parking
spaces where there is handicapped?
Mr. Plummer: What?
Mr. Dawkins: Does that also apply to Off Street Parking, because, I mean, we
have got parking spaces out there. If this is a State regulation, then we are
violating it with Off Street Parking.
Mayor Suarez: Well, Madam City Attorney, are you aware of the statute? Are
you able to give us something as to whether it applies also to the use of
parking places and not having to pay for it?
Mrs. Dougherty: I can't give you an opinion at this time.
Mr. Armitage: I will make a comment. At the airport, they do not charge the
handicapped at the Miami International Airport, due to that law.
Mr. Plummer: The difference between not charging and the State law. Usually
you find that this is a means of control. Means of control is that one person
doesn't go and use it for 24 or 48 hours because he is not paying a charge.
It is a means of control, you know that if you have one person go in there and
he doesn't have to put a dime in the meter, conceivably, he could leave his
car there foreverl Then, nobody also would have the availability of it, so I
would think you would want some kind of control such as that, where it could
be used and availed to many people, rather than just maybe someone who might
abuse it.
Mr. Dawkins: And my concern is that in the parking garages we do have spaces
that are labeled "disabled" and you get a ticket when you come in and I am
trying to find if it is legal if you pay when you go out.
Mr. Armitage: Well, that is a metered space, because they punch your ticket
and that is exactly what the law reads, in a metered space.
Mr. Dawkins: OK, so you are correct, OK, no problem, so we are legal. We are
legal.
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Mr. Jack Mulvena: I'm Jack Mulvena, deputy director of the Department of
Off -Street Parking. We have asked our attorney for an opinion, because we
would like to clear it up as well. Ron Silver will research for this and give
us an opinion. By the way, Roger did suggest that since he couldn't be here,
you know, we would be very happy to get any laundry list of any violations and
have, not the Department of Off -Street Parking, but the Department of
Inspection and others tell us what is illegal or not and we will comply, so...
you know, we are standing eager to be both legal and to facilitate any
injustices that are in our parking system.
Mr. Dawkins: OK, go right ahead, sir.
Mr. Armitage: The other thing that Mr. Wood ran across when he was over at
Virgin& Key, you are developing a new park over there, and he found that there
were not equal facilities for the handicapped. Now, Mr. Kevin Smith, your
handicapped coordinator may be able to expound on this what they are going to
do to correct it, but under State statute 255.21, we feel that the City of
Miami is not living up to its obligation there. Kevin?
Mr. Kevin Smith: Mr. Wood, I've seen his correspondence, and he brought
particularly a couple of issues to our concern, to our issue. One was that he
said there was no accessible fishing areas. There is no accessible fishing
areas in the Virginia Key Park. There is no fishing in the Virginia Key
Parks, so that eliminates one of his concerns. A second concern was that the
portolets that are out there right now, are temporary bathroom facilities and
they do not meet the standard code for standard permanent facilities. This in
fact is true, but the items that are available in portolets are the only ones
available on the market. The primary problem that is with the facility right
now hinges around the fact that the ramp entrance is not legally to
specification. That can be rectified very easily through the park system.
Mr. Plummer: So do it.
Mr. Smith: Yes, sir, we will. The other concerns that Mr. Wood had expressed
is that there is no accessible pathways from the beach areas to the water, and
this is another fact and we are researching possibilities which would include
possibly paving, a path area from the parking lot beach area, across the sand
down to the water, possibly a roll -up mesh type system that might work. We
are researching all different aspects to try and comply and rectify that
situation. The last problem that he addressed to us was that there was no
legally marked accessible parking. At the time that he was out there, there
was three accessible handicapped parking spaces in lot six. They were not
signed correctly. The day he contacted us, we went out with a disabled
representative who helped us survey the park. There are now six out of eight
handicapped parking spaces, totally legally standard there. The remaining two
are being signed and will be paved within the next week or two, so we have
done every effort to try and comply with Mr. Wood's concerns and I go on
record as saying that we have worked with George before and will continue to
try and address the needs of the disabled citizens of Miami.
Mr. Plummer: So be it.
Mr. Armitage: Thank you.
Mr. Dawkins: OK. Have someone, Mr. Manager, research even our lobbyists in
Washington. There should be some funds with which we could get Federal funds
to adapt these parks for our handicap's use, because it is there, the money is
there.
Mr. Smith: There are possibilities for State monies too as far as parking
generated through... fees generated through the parking.
Mr. Dawkins: OK, if we get it from the State and the Fads we do more. We can
make it twice as nice... and put it more places.
Mr. Armitage: In closing, I'd like to distribute to each of you what we had
found down at Bayside. The facility doesn't even come up to the minimum
standards of the South Florida handicapped code. I will give you each a copy.
Mr. Dawkins: All right sir, and we appreciate your taking the time to come
here, sir.
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Mrs. Kennedy: I heard about that on opening day.
Mayor Suarez: We will... John, are you going to review that and put a little
preadure on them? OK, we will work on the Rouse Company to make the
adjustments that are necessary.
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78. GENERAL ANTONIO MACEO FOUNDATION GRANTED USE OF GENERAL ANTONIO MACEO
PARK BUILDING.
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Mr. Dawkins: Item 81.
Mayor Suarez: That is right, item 81.
Mr. Dawkins: 81.
Mayor Suarez: What is 81? Oh, 81. They have been patiently waiting all day.
Mr. Odio: What they require, I don't think I wanted to know. They need to
raise funds, they need an office to work from and we are recommending that
they be able to use the building that's out at Macao Park on a revocable
permit basis.
Mrs. Kennedy: I move the City's recommendation.
Mr. Plummer: What is it being used for now?
Mr. Odio: Nothing.
Mr. Plummer: OK. You will take out the necessary insurance and indemnify the
City from any liability?
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: Yes, of course.
Mr. Dawkins: Second.
Mr. Plummer: That is for how long a period of time, one year?
Mr. Odio: For one year, revocable every year.
Mr. Plummer: Well, revocable means at any time, but one year.
Mr. Odio: That, at any... I mean...
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: For one year, OK.
Mr. Dawkins: With an option of another year, if necessary.
Mr. Plummer: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: Wonderful, thank you very much.
Mr. Plummer: Well, you better wait until we call the rolll
Mayor Suarez: Roll call.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Kennedy, who moved
its adoption:
MOTION NO. 87-369
A MOTION GRANTING A REQUEST RECEIVED FROM REPRESENTATIVES
OF THE GENERAL ANTONIO MACEO FOUNDATION FOR USE OF THE
BUILDING LOCATED IN GENERAL ANTONIO MACEO PARK ON A ONE-
YEAR BASIS; FURTHER DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO ISSUE A
REVOCABLE USE PERMIT IN CONNECTION WITH SAID REQUEST WITH
THE PROVISO THAT SAID FOUNDATION HOLD THE CITY HARMLESS
UNDER ANY POTENTIAL LIABILITY.
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Upon being seconded by Commissioner Dawkins, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote-
._--ci aesiller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
79. DISCUSSION REGARDING NATIONAL CONFERENCE OF BLACK MAYORS.
Mr. Dawkins: Mr. Manager, what is your recommendation on 85?
Mr. Odio: I recommend it.
Mr. Dawkins: So moved.
Mr. Plummer: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded. Any discussion? Call the roll on 85.
Mr. Plummer: The only discussion I've got, Mr. Mayor, I think the
Administration needs somehow to sit down with the Police Department. They are
talking about, in this particular case, for police - whatever, protection,
police involvement of 623,000.
Mr. Dawkins: No, way, no way.
Mayor Suarez: I fully agree with your implication that that should be
reviewed to see how that could be reduced.
Mr. Plummer: I had one yesterday... someone brought me one day before
yesterday for $37,900!... oh, Bayside, Bayside, and I tell you, you know, I
think that the police are entitled to their money, but I seriously question
whether or not... you see, they are making the decision as to how many
personnel are needed for a given event.
Mr. Dawkins: They? Who, J. L.?
Mr. Plummer: The Police Department themselves.
Mayor Suarez: No, we have to review that.
Mr. Plummer: And I... well, I don't want to do it, I want the Administration
to do it.
Mayor Suarez: Yes, I know, that is what I mean, the Administration.
Mr. Plummer: Because, I will tell you, we are rapidly reaching the point
where some of these good things that are happening for this City are
financially going to go under.
Mr. Dawkins: Not necess...
Mayor Suarez: There is this thing this week in Santa Marta de Ortigueira, that
function that was given out there at the P.B.A. instead of at Watson Island,
the one that we told them was going to cost them like, $3,000 or $4,000, at
Vatson Island, they finally drove them away from Watson Island. There was one
police officer there off -duty. I guess they must have paid for it, and that
vas all that was needed. That was all that vas needed!... and they were
getting estimates of, I don't know, how many, you know, hundreds of dollars
for police officers, for a nice little event, where you know, the worst you
would have would be... where there would be no incidents vhatsoevert
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Mr. Odio: See, but what happens, is sometimes we have to educate the groups
that come and talk to the police. They say, "We are going to have 100,000
people."
Mayor Suarez: Yes, that was part of the problem. They were given these huge
estimates of people, and there was probably only a couple hundred people
there.
Mr. Odio: That's why they get...
Mayor Suarez: One officer was... and by the way, he was a super friendly guy,
he was helping everybody park their cars. That was all that was needed.
Mr. Dawkins: As much as I love my Police Department... send somebody
; they are going to force me to start using Florida
Highway patrolmen. They are going to price me out of the market.
Mr. Plummer: I guess what I am saying, in so many words is, I don't want them
to kill the "golden goose."
Mr. Dawkins: That's right!
Mayor Suarez: Yes, those estimates have got to be reviewed by the
Administration before they come to us, and I have a feeling we are going to
find that they are incredibly inflated.
Mr. Plummer: Well, they are creating all the jobs they need, that's what they
are doing.
Mr. Dawkins: And we shouldn't be letting somebody else come in and take what,
you know, whatever we can to subsidize. Nobody works two jobs because he
loves to, no, he's working two jobs because he has to, OK? But, like J.L. _—
says, somewhere along the line, we have got to take stock.
Mr. Odio: I think what I am going to do very quickly, to tell you, I'll have
the Department of Community Development talk to the Police Department, and not
the civilians, who probably estimate wrong, and...
Mayor Suarez: Yes.
80. DISCUSSION CONCERNING NO MORE JAIL FACILITIES IN MIAMI.
Mayor Suarez: Item 86, Commissioner Dawkins.
Mr. Dawkins: On 86, I would like to continue to the next meeting, I am not
ready.
Mayor Suarez: On item 88...
Mr. Plummer: Well, wait a minute, on 86, I keep reminding you that the City
of Miami wants no more jails until every municipality has picked up its fair
share of responsibility.
Mr. Dawkins: And what all we are saying is that we concur with everybody. We
do need jail space...
Mr. Plummer: No question.
Mr. Dawkins: ... to house prisoners, but we need to house some somewhere else
other than in the City of Miami.
Mr. Plummer: Well, you know, I want see that they are going to build a jail
In Coral Gables, that they are going to build a jail in Miami Shores, that
they are going to build a jail in E1 Portal.
Mr. Plummer: And that they put the jail in Miami Springs that they were
scheduled to put there. Well, all I am saying is, that you just cannot
continue to saddle one city with the problems created by all.
Mr. Dawkins: We are saturated with jails!
Mr. Plummer: Exactly.
Mr. Dawkins: That is all we are saying. OK.
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NOTE FOR THE RECORD: Item 88 was continued to the next meeting.
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61. BRIEF DISCUSSION CONCERNING DISBURSEMENT OF BOND MONEY TO INNER CITY
PARKS.
Mr. Odic: Agenda item 89, Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Suarez: Item 89 is which? I'm sorry, I thought we had done that.
Mr. Odic: No.
Mr. Dawkins: That's mine also.
Mr. Odic: He wants to know how we are going to disburse the funds for the
inner parks. We are ready to do that.
Mr. Plummer: Orally.
Mr. Dawkins: That's right.
Mayor Suarez: What is in the pot right now?
Mr. Odic: Four point six.
Mayor Suarez: There is nothing in the pot yet, is there?
Mr. Odic: Four point six.
Mayor Suarez: Oh, we got moneyl
Mr. Carollo: I've got to take off, guys.
Mr. Plummer: Bye
Mr. Odic: $3,900,000.
Mr. Plummer: No, no. Get the coffee cup.
Mr. Dawkins: Here.
Mr. Plummer: Get the coffee cup.
Mr. Carollo: So nobody says that I'm you know, holding anything against
anyone. I'm going to put an "X"...
Mr. Plummer: No, no, is that the coffee cup?
Mr. Dawkins: (INAUDIBLE COMMENTS)
Mr. Plummer: No, no, we have got to have the coffee cupl
Mr. Carollo: We are going to put the "X" in my wallet.
Mr. Plummer: Oh no.
199 April 9, 1987
Mr. Carollo: Yes, "X" gets the "X" this time and he wanted to give it to me.
82. ALLOCATE $1500 FOR "RED RIBBON DAY" (SAY NO TO DRUGS) TO PLACE RED
RIBBONS AROUND CITY PROPERTIES ON MAY 13.
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Mr. Carollo: I've got a motion to quickly make. I want to make a motion that
we make and name May 13, 1987 the official "Red Ribbon Day of the City of
Miami and that we allocate no more than... allocate an amount not to exceed
$1,500 to place red ribbons that "Say No To Drugs" around the City of Miami
properties.
Mr. Plummer: Second the motion.
Mayor Suarez: So moved and seconded. Any discussion? Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Carollo, who _
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 87-370
A RESOLUTION ALLOCATING AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $1,500
FROM SPECIAL PROGRAMS AND ACCOUNTS, CONTINGENT FUND,
IN CONNECTION WITH THE CELEBRATION "SAY NO TO DRUGS"
ON MAY 13, 1987 DECLARING THIS DATE AS THE OFFICIAL
RED RIBBON DAY OF THE CITY OF MIAMI; SUBJECT TO AND
CONTINGENT UPON COMPLIANCE WITH SUCH CONDITIONS AND
LIMITATIONS AS MAY BE PRESCRIBED BY THE CITY OF MIAMI.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
Mrs. Kennedy: Why don't we put the painting somewhere in the lobby, Joe,
before you...
Mr. Plummer: Yes, that is...
Mrs. Kennedy: ... so that people can look at it.
Mr. Dawkins: Joe got the "X", let him keep the painting.
Mayor Suarez: This Commission In adjourned with our without the painting.
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83. $200,000 LOAN TO COCONUT GROW PLAVHnT:.^,F - APPnTNT COMMISSIONER PLUMMER
AS CITY REPRESENTATIVE ON THE COCONUT' GRUvR PLAYHOUSE BOARD OF DIRECTORS.
Mr. Plummer: Wait a moment, hold on a minute. I met with the people of the
Coconut Grove Playhouse.
Mayor Suarez: They have you on the board now finally, or what?
Mr. Plummer: OK, I met with the people of Coconut Grove Playhouse. As you
know, that there was a $200,000 grant given to them, if in fact, they came up
with certain provisions. One of those provisions, that one of us would have
to be placed on the board.
Mrs. Kennedy: And you were the one.
Mr. Plummer: And I was the one designated. Now, I would like the approval by
the recommendation of the City Manager, who put forth certain stipulations
that they agreed to, the loan would be paid. I would like to have at this
particular time, the approval of this Commission, ratifying the recommendation
of the City Manager, based on their accepting those provisions which you all
have had copies of. OK, is that the best way to do it? I so move.
Mr. Dawkins: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded. Any discussion? Call the roll. That
basically that you be on the board, and what else?
Mr. Plummer: Well, there is a lot of stipulations. They had to come up with
$25,000 in cash...
Mayor Suarez: And certain...
Mr. Plummer: Yes, all of that had to be.
Mayor Suarez:... pledges.
Mr. Castaneda: (INAUDIBLE COMMENTS)
Mr. Plummer: To call the loan at any time if they were not doing what we
thought was proper.
Mayor Suarez: Call the roll.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved
its adoption:
MOTION NO. 87-371
A MOTION ACCEPTING THE CITY MANAGER'S RECOMMENDATION
FOR A LOAN TO COCONUT GROVE PLAYHOUSE IN AN AMOUNT NOT
TO EXCEED $200,000, SUBJECT TO THEIR ACCEPTING
PREVIOUSLY STATED PROVISIONS STIPULATED BY THE CITY
COMMISSION, AND FURTHER APPOINTING COMMISSIONER J.L.
PLUMMER, JR. AS THE CITY'S REPRESENTATIVE ON THE
COCONUT GROVE PLAYHOUSE BOARD OF DIRECTORS.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Dawkins, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo Y
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None. ;3
ABSENT: None. ~.
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7 P.S
THERE BEING NO nRTHn BUSINESS TO COW BEFORE THB CITY
CQlIIMON, 786 MEETING WAS ADJOURNED AT 7:07 P.M.
ATTEST:
Natty Hirai
CM CLERK
Walter J. lveraa
ASSISTANT CM CLERK
Xavier L. Suarez
MA?OR
* INCOItY 11R:tTEtI
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CITY OF MIAMI
DOCUMENT INDEX
MEETM DATE: APR I L 9, 1987
ACCEPT BID: EPPERSON CRANES, INC.
FOR REMOVING AND TRANSPORTING OF
THE CITY RADIO TOWER.
ACCEPT BID OF MIAMI RUG COMPANY FOR
CARPETING.
CCEPT BID: CHASTAIN FENCE CO FOR
FENCING.
ACCEPT BID: JUELLE INC. AND DELIA
DEMOLITION INC. FOR DEMOLITION
SERVICES.
ACCEPT BID: PERKING POWER CORP.
FOR MARINA DIESEL ENGINE.
ACCEPT BID: NORTON ENGINEERING FOR
SANITARY SEWER PUMPING STATION.
AUTHORIZE CONTRACT WITH DAVID H.
GRIFFITH AND ASSOCIATES TO PREPARE
A CENTRAL SERVICES COST ALLOCATION
PLAN.
AUTHORIZE MANAGER TO ENTER INTO
SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH ARTHUR
ANDERSON AND CO. TO ANALYZE
FINANCIAL VIABILITY OF PROPOSALS
FOR THE 2640 SOUTH BAYSHORE DRIVE
UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT PROJECT.
APPROVE FACILITY MANAGEMENT GROUP,
OMC? (FMG) TO OPERATE AND MANAGE
THE CITY OF AMAMI/UNIVERSITY OF
MIAMI JAMES L. KNIGHT INTERNATIONAL
CENTER (CONVENTION CENTER).
AUTHORIZE REIMBURSEMENT OF OUT-OF-
POCKET EXPENSES TO SPARBER, SHEVIN,
SHAPO AND HEILBRONNER.
AUTHORIZE EXECUTION OF AGREEMENT
WITH THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
IN CONNECTION WITH THE BAYFRONT
PARK REDEVELOPMENT PROJECTS
FLAGLER STREET PROMENADE.
ACCEPT BID: DOUGLAS N. HIGGINS FOR
FLAGAMI SANITARY SEWER IMPROVEMENT.
ACCEPT BID: MADSEN-BARR CORPORATION
FOR CITYWIDE SANITARY SEWER REPLACEMENT
PROJECT.
RE I FMAL CODE NO.
(RESOLUTIONS)
87-305
87-306
87 307
87-308
87-309
87-310
87-311
87-312
87-313
87-314
87-315
87-316
87-317
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DOCUMENT INDEX
Maa.OFs
APRIL 9, 1987
(RESOLUTIONS
ACCEPT COMPLETED WORK: IDEAL
} ROOFING AND SHEET METAL WORKS INC.
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FOR FIRE STATION N0. 4 REROOFING. 87-318
i ACCEPT PLAT: "FROGS LEAP". 87-319
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( ACCEPT IN ANNUAL CONTRIBUTIONS OF
it $2,242,752 FROM DEPARTMENT OF
HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT (HUD). 87-320
AUTHORIZE CLOSURE OF STREETS FOR
COMMITTEE ON BEAUTIFICAITON AND
ENVIROMENT PARADE.
87-321
AUTHORIZE PURCHASE OF THREE ECONOMY
CARGO VANS FROM DON REID FORD,INC.
87-326
ACCEPT BIDS: SEVEN SUPPLIERS OF
HEAVY EQUIPMENT.
87-327
ACCEPT BID: HONDA NORTH FOR 2
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THREE —WHEEL SCOOTERS.
87-328
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ACCEPT BID: LAWMEN'S AND SHOOTERS
SUPPLY CO. AND PUBLIC SAFETY
DEVICES FOR FURNISHING POLICE AUTO
j
EQUIPMENT.
87-329
—1
REITERATE PASSAGE OF BID ACCEPTANCE
OF SEVEN SUPPLIERS OF HEAVY
EQUIPMENT.
87-330.1
DOCUMENTARY SURTAX FUNDING TO
ASSIST IN FINANCING AFFORDABLE
HOUSING AT MELROSE NURSERY AND
CIVIC CENTER SITES.
87-331
APPROVE CENTRUST TOWER LIGHTING
STRUCTURE.
87-333
APPOINT FAUSTO DIAZ OLIVER. TO THE
SPORTS AND EXHIBITION AUTHORITY
87-334
PERMIT DRIVE—IN FACILITY FOR
CITICORP SAVINGS ON 1600 S.W. 22
STREET
87r,335
PERMIT A REDUCTION FROM 10 TO 1
RESERVOIR SPACE FOR 1 OF 3 DRIVE—IN
TELLERS FOR CITICORP SAVINGS ON
1600 S.W. 22ND STREET. 1 87-336
PERMIT DRIVE—IN TELLER FACILITY FOR
CITICORP. SAVINGS WITH REDUCTION OF
THE 50' TRANSITIONAL AREA TO A 10'
LANDSCAPE AREA AT 1600 S.W. 22 STREET. 87-337
DISCONTINUE CONTRACT WITH MIAMI
DADE TRADE AND TOURISM COMMISSION
INC.—NO FURTHER FUNDING, 87-338
SELECT BEAR STERNS AS SENIOR
UNDERWRITER FOR GENERAL OBLIGATION
REFUNDING BONDS. 87-34.
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DOCUMENT INDEX
REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS TO BE ISSUED
FOR MANAGEMENT OF MIAMARINA.
AUTHORIZE PERMIT FOR NICARAGUAN
AMERICAN FOUNDATION INC. FOR USE
OF OFFICE SPACE AT HENDERSON PARK.
EMERGENCY PURCHASE OF 2 REBUILT
HYDROCRANES FOR SHELLY TRACTOR AND
EQUIPMENT CO.
APPROVE REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS FOR
THE STATE PLAZA/MIAMI ARENA MIXED
USE PROJECT.
EXECUTE CONTRACTS WITH COMMUNITY
BASED ORGANIZATIONS.
EXECUTE AGREEMENT WITH LATIN
CHAMBER OF COMMERCE FOR VIII
HEMISPHERIC CONGRESS OF LATIN
CHAMBERS OF COMMERCE AND INDUSTRY.
APPROVE ISSUANCE OF FLORIDA HEALTH
FACILITIES AUTHORITY HOSPITAL
REVENUE BONDS FOR CEDARS MEDICAL
CENTER.
APPROVE ISSUANCE OF FLORIDA HEALTH
FACILITIES AUTHORITY HOSPITAL
REVENUE BONDS FOR MERCY HOSPITAL
INC.
ADDITIOANL SERVICES REQUIRED OF
TOXICOLOGY TESTING SERVICES - URINE
SAMPLES FOR DRUG SCREENING TEST.
AMEND AGREEMENT WITH LITTLE HAVANA
DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY IN DEVELOPMENT
OF LATIN QUARTER.
APPOINT GARY MCGREEGAN TO THE CITY
OF MIAMI/UNIVERSITY OF MIAMI JAMES
L. KNIGHT INTERNATIONAL CENTER
ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
APPOINT SHWN HERNESS AND MANUEL
JOHN GONZALEZ TO THE YOUTH ADVISORY
COUNCIL.
WAIVE BIDDING PROCESS FOR COMPUTER
AIDED DRAFTING AND DESIGN SYSTEM
PURCHASED FROM HOLGUIN AND HEWLETT-
PACKARD.
WAIVE BIDDING PROCESS FOR A
COMPUTER FLEET COMMAND SYSTEM
PURCHASED FROM THE MAINSTEM CORP.
ALLOCATE $50*000. TO BRING A MAJOR
INTERNATIONAL SOCCER MATCH (BRAZIL
AND COLUMBIA) TO ORANGE BOWL.
APRIL 9, 1987
RE I MAL CODE NO.
(RESOLUTIONS)
87-341
87-343
87-346
87-347
87-350
87-353
87-356
87-357
87,,358
87-359
87�360
87-361
87--363
87-364
87-366
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DOCUMENT INDEX
ALLOCATE $1,500. FOR "RED RIBBON DAY"
(SAY NO TO DRUGS) TO PLACE RED
RIBBONS AROUND CITY PROPERTIES ON
MAY 13TH.
MW. 4 0F`
APRIL 9, 1987
87-370