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CITY OF MIAMI
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OF MEETING HELD ON MAY 14, 1987
(REGULAR)
PREPARED BY THE OFFICE OF THE CITY CLERK
CITY HALL
MATTY HIRAI
City Clerk
INDEX
MINUTES OF REGULAR MEETING
CITY COMMISSION OF MIAMI, FLORIDA
MAY 14, 1987
ITEM
SUBJECT
LEGISLATION
PAGE
NO.
NO.
1.
PRESENTATIONS, PROCLAMATION,
PRESENTED
1
SPECIAL ITEMS.
5/14/87
2.
DISCUSSION RE: DRUG TESTING OF
DISCUSSION
1-2
PARTICIPANTS OF THE SUMMER YOUTH
5/14/87
EMPLOYMENT AND TRAINING PROGRAM
(SEE LABELS #24 AND #37)
3.
COMMISSION POLICY THAT NEVER SHALL
M 87-409
2-7
ADMINISTRATION ENTER INTO
5/14/87
NEGOTIATIONS THAT WILL BE THE
SUBJECT OF COMMISSION ACTION
WITHOUT PRIOR APPROVAL BY
COMMISSION.
4.
APPROVE IN PRINCIPLE TRANSFER OF
M-87-410
7-11
SWIRE MONIES (FOR RIOPLAZA PROJECT)
5/14/87
TO BARNETT BANK AS REQUESTED BY
EAST LITTLE HAVANA DEVELOPMENT
CORPORATION.
5.
DISCUSSION RE: PARCEL OF LAND TO BE
DISCUSSION
11-13
PROVIDED TO "LIGA CONTRA EL
5/14/87
CANCER."
6.
(A)AUTHORIZE SUBMITTAL OF GRANT
R-87-411
13-19
PROGRAM FINAL STATEMENT TO U.S.
M-87-412
DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND URBAN
5/14/87
DEVELOPMENT FOR CITY'S PROPOSED
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM; (B)
SCHEDULE PUBLIC HEARING FOR
DISBURSEMENT OF FUNDS FOR CITY'S
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM.
7.
CONSENT AGENDA.
19-20
5/14/87
7.1
ACCEPT BID: CENTURY RAIN AID FOR 8
R-87-413
20
IRRIGATION MICRO PROCESSOR DRIVEN
5/14/87
FIELD CONTROLLERS.
7.2
ACCEPT BID: E.V.F. INC. FOR
R-87-414
20
REFURBISHMENT OF SEVEN EXISTING
5/14/87
FIRE RESCUE AMBULANCE VEHICLES.
7.3
ACCEPT BID: TCCA PAINTING AND LAWN
R-87-415
21
MAINTENANCE CO. FOR GROUNDS
5/14/87
MAINTENANCE AT FIRE/RESCUE TRAINING
CENTER.
7.4
ACCEPT PROPOSAL OF MCF CORPORATION
R-87-416
21
FOR LEASE OF OFFICE SPACE (3000
5/14/87
AVIATION AVENUE)
7.5
INCREASE CONTRACT WITH OCEAN BAY
R-87-417
21
CONSTRUCTION FOR FORT DALLAS PARK
5/14/87
PLAZA PHASE II.
-10
I 7 . 6
ACCEPT RENTAL REHABILITATION
R-87-418
21
PROGRAM GRANT TO INCREASE THE
5/14/87
SUPPLY OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
7.7
ACCEPT COMPLETED WORK: WILLIAMS
R-87-419
22
PAVING COMPANY FOR SILVER BLUFF
5/14/87
STORM SEWER PROJECT.
7.8
ACCEPT COMPLETED WORK; EBSARY
R-87-420
22
FOUNDATION COMPANY FOR DINNER KEY
5/14/87
MARINA - BOAT RAMP.
7.9
ACCEPT COMPLETED WORK: B.K. MARINE
R-87-421
22
CONSTRUCTION INC. FOR WAINWRIGHT
5/14/87
PARK BULKHEAD REPAIRS 1985.
7.10
ORDERING SILVER BLUFF HIGHWAY
R-87-422
22
IMPROVEMENT.
5/14/87
7.11
CREATE PANEL OF SEVEN NATIONAL
R-87-423
23
EXPERTS TO INVESTIGATE CHARGES OF
5/14/87
DISCRIMINATION IN FIRE DEPARTMENT.
7.12
AUTHORIZE REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL FOR
R-87-424
23
SALE OF WATSON BUILDING (SEE LABEL
5/14/87
#15, #34)
7.13
ACCEPT AND APPROVE COMPREHENSIVE
R-87-425
23
ANNUAL REPORT FOR FISCAL YEAR 1986.
5/14/87
7.14
NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING FOR
R-87-426
23
ACCEPTANCE OF COMPLETED
5/14/87
CONSTRUCTION OF LANZO CONSTRUCTION
CO. FOR CITYWIDE SANITARY SEWER
IMPROVEMENT.
7.15
ACCEPT PLAT - BAY VIEW.
R-87-427
24
5/14/87
7.16
CONFIRM INDIVIDUALS SELECTED BY
R-87-428
24
BARGAINING REPRESENTATIVES AS
5/14/87
MEMBERS OF AFFIRMATIVE ACTION
ADVISORY BOARD.
7.17
CLOSE STREETS; ALCOHOL PERMIT;
R-87-429
24
PEDDLERS AREA FOR MIAMI/BAHAMAS
5/14/87
GOOMBAY FESTIVAL.
8.
WISH A SPEEDY RECOVER: MARIA
R-87-430
24-25
DEJESUS BLANCO FROM SURGERY.
5/14/87
9.
DEFER CONSIDERATION OF BID
DISCUSSION
25-26
ACCEPTANCE OF SIGNS UNLIMITED INC.
5/14/87
FOR CONSTRUCTION SIGNS FOR
OVERTOWN/PARK WEST REDEVELOPMENT
PROJECT.
10.
UNSERVICEABLE POLICE UNIFORMS TO BE
M-87-431
26-29
DONATED TO HAITI.
5/14/87
11.
AUTHORIZE DONATION OF BOSTON WHALER
R-87-432
30-33
VESSEL (BOAT) FROM PAUL KEMPNER FOR
5/14/87
USE BY POLICE DEPARTMENT.
12.
ACCEPT PROPOSAL OF AMERIFIRST
R-87-433
33-39
DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION FOR LEASE
5/14/87
OF OFFICE SPACE DOWNTOWN.
13.
AUTHORIZE EXECUTION OF POLITICAL
R-87-434
39
SUBDIVISION PROGRAM AGREEMENT WITH
5/14/87
STATE OF FLORIDA.
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14.
DEFER CONSIDERATION OF ALLOCATION
DISCUSSION
FOR COMPLEX AND PROTRACTED
5/14/87
INVESTIGATIONS.
15.
CITY TO CONTACT FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
R - 8 7 - 4 3 5
TO TALK ABOUT POSSIBLE EXCHANGE OF
5/14/87
WATSON BUILDING FOR THE U.S. NAVAL
RESERVE CENTER (SEE LABELS #7, AND
#34)
16.
CITY TO PREPARE A REDEVELOPMENT
R-87-436
-
PLAN FOR AREA BOUNDED BY MIAMI
5/14/87
RIVER, I-95 AND SOUTH MIAMI AVENUE.
17.
ACCEPT PLAT: WOLFE'S INDUSTRIAL
R-87-437
PLAT.
5/14/87
18.
BID OPENING FOR CONSTRUCTION OF
M-87-438
CITYWIDE HIGHWAY IMPROVEMENT PHASE
5/14/87
IV B-4526.
19.
ISSUE REVOCABLE USE PERMIT TO
R-87-439
TROPICAL CLEAR BLUE LAUNDRY
5/14/87
SERVICES FOR USE OF SPACE IN
OVERTOWN SHOPPING CENTER.
20.
DECLARE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT PROJECT
R-87-440
AND DRAFT REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS IN
5/14/87
CONNECTION WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF
MARINE -ORIENTED RECREATIONAL AND
RETAIL USES AT S.W. 2 STREET AND
NORTH RIVER DRIVE ON THE MIAMI
_
RIVER.
21.
DISCUSSION AND TEMPORARY DEFERRAL
DISCUSSION
OF STREET CLOSURE FOR PARADE BY
5/14/87
RENOVACION CARISMATICA CATOLICA
HISPANA (SEE LABEL #35)
22.
FIRST READING ORDINANCE: ESTABLISH
FIRST
NEW FUND - "POLICE SECOND DOLLAR
READING
TRAINING - CONSOLIDATED."
5/14/87
23.
EMERGENCY ORDINANCE: INCREASE
ORDINANCE
APPROPRIATIONS FOR "VIRGINIA KEY
10268
PARK DEVELOPMENT" AND "KENNEDY PARK
IMPROVEMENTS" (SEE LABELS #36)
24.
DISCUSSION AND TEMPORARY DEFERRAL
DISCUSSION
OF PROPOSED EMERGENCY ORDINANCE
5/14/87
ESTABLISHING NEW FUND: "SUMMER
YOUTH EMPLOYMENT AND TRAINING
PROGRAM" AND ACCEPTING GRANT AWARD
FROM U.S. LABOR DEPARTMENT (SEE
LABEL #37 AND #2)
25.
SECOND READING ORDINANCE:
ORDINANCE
ESTABLISH NEW REVENUE FUND:
10269
"RECREATION PROGRAMS FOR THE
5/14/87
MENTALLY RETARDED - CONSOLIDATED;"
ACCEPT GRANT AWARDS AND ENTER INTO
CONTRACTS.
26.
SECOND READING ORDINANCE: PROVIDE
ORDINANCE
STAGGERED TERMS FOR MEMBERS OF
10270
SPORTS AND EXHIBITION AUTHORITY
5/14/87
BOARD.
27. FIRST READING ORDINANCE: REQUIRE FIRST
THAT CHANGES IN ETHNIC STATUS BE READING
ESTABLISHED AT TIME OF APPLICATION 5/14/87
FOR ALL CIVIL SERVICE COMPETITIVE
EXAMINATIONS.
40-42
42-44
44-49
49-50
50-52
52-55
55-56
57-59
59-60
60-63
63-68
69-70
70
71-72
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28. FIRST READING ORDINANCE: FIRST 72
RECLASSIFY FUNDING SOURCES FOR READING
"AFFORDABLE RENTAL HOUSING 5/14/87
PROGRAM."
29. FIRST READING ORDINANCE: ESTABLISH FIRST 73-74
NEW PROJECT: "HOUSING PROGRAMS READING
ADMINISTRATION" AND APPROPRIATE 5/14/87
FUNDS FOR SAME.
30. AUTHORIZE INTERVIEW OF THREE R-87-441 74-76
COMMUNITY BASED NOT -FOR -PROFIT 5/14/87
CORPORATIONS FOR MANAGEMENT
SERVICES AT BAYFRONT PARK (SEE
LABEL #48)
31. APPOINT WALTER B. MARTINEZ TO THE DISCUSSION 76-77
LATIN QUARTER REVIEW BOARD (SEE 5/14/87
LABEL #50)
32. PROCLAMATION OF HOME SCHOOL DAYS. DISCUSSION 78
5/14/87
33. CLOSE STREETS FOR PARADE BY R-87-443 78-79
RENOVACION CARISMATICA CATOLICA 5/14/87
HISPANA (SEE LABEL 021)
34. (A) RECONSIDERATION OF THE CONSENT M-87-444 79-81
AGENDA; (SEE LABEL #7) (B) M-87-445
READOPTION OF THE CONSENT AGENDA 5/14/87
MINUS ITEM 20, WHICH WAS MODIFIED
BY CONSIDERING AN EXCHANGE OF THE
WATSON BUILDING FOR THE U.S. NAVAL
RESERVE CENTER *SEE LABEL #15)
35. DISCUSSION AND TEMPORARY DEFERRAL DISCUSSION 81-84
OF PROPOSED EMERGENCY ORDINANCE TO 5/14/87
ISSUE GENERAL OBLIGATION REFUNDING
BONDS (SEE LABEL #56)
36. (A) RECONSIDERATION OF EMERGENCY M-87-446 84-90
ORDINANCE PREVIOUSLY PASSED ORDINANCE
INCREASING THE APPROPRIATIONS FOR 10268
"VIRGINIA KEY PARK REDEVELOPMENT"
AND "KENNEDY PARK IMPROVEMENTS"
(SEE LABEL#23) (B) READOPTION OF
EMERGENCY ORDINANCE 10268 AS
PREVIOUSLY PASSED INCREASING THE
APPROPRIATIONS FOR "VIRGINIA KEY
PARK DEVELOPMENT" AND "KENNEDY PARK
IMPROVEMENTS" (SEE LABEL #23)
37. EMERGENCY ORDINANCE: ESTABLISH NEW ORDINANCE 90-96
REVENUE FUND: "SUMMER YOUTH 10271
EMPLOYMENT AND TRAINING PROGRAM - 5/14/87
1987/JTPA 11-B" (SEE LABEL #2 AND
#24)
38. ALLOCATE FUNDS FOR "SUMMER YOUTH R-87-447 96-97
EMPLOYMENT AND TRAINING PROGRAM - 5/14/87
1987/JTPA 11-B" TO BELAFONTE
TACOLCY CENTER AND YOUTH CO-OP,
INC.
39. AUTHORIZE EXECUTION OF AGREEMENT R-87-448
WITH GRAN CENTRAL CORPORATION FOR 5/14/87
IMPROVEMENT OF N.W. 1 AVENUE.
40. AUTHORIZE LOAN AGREEMENT WITH GRAN R-87-449
CENTRAL CORPORATION FOR ACQUISITION 5/14/87
OF PARCEL AT 104 N.W. 1 AVENUE.
97-108
109
41.
AUTHORIZE ACQUISITION OF PARCEL AT
R - 8 7 - 4 5 0
109-110
104 N.W. 1ST AVENUE; REQUEST CITY
5/14/87
AND/OR DADE COUNTY INIATE
CONDEMNATION IF CANNOT BE
PURCHASED.
42.
AUTHORIZE CONTRACT WITH "M BANK"
R-87-451
110-112
FOR SPECIAL DEPOSITORY ACCOUNT.
5/14/87
43.
AUTHORIZE OFFERS FOR ACQUISITION OF
R-87-452
112-114
RIGHT PARCELS IN ALLAPATTAH FOR
5/14/87
DEVELOPMENT OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
44.
AUTHORIZE OFFERS FOR ACQUISITION OF
R-87-453
114-115
15 PARCELS IN MODEL CITY FOR
5/14/87
DEVELOPMENT OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
45.
AUTHORIZE NEGOTIATIONS FOR
R-87-454
115
ACQUISITION OF PROPERTY AT 2610 N.W
5/14/87
25 AVENUE TO BE USED FOR AFFORDABLE
HOUSING.
46.
AUTHORIZE OFFERS FOR ACQUISITION OF
R-87-455
116
EIGHT PARCELS IN WYNWOOD FOR
5/14/87
AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
47.
AUTHORIZE NEGOTIATIONS FOR NORTH
M-87-456
117-122
DISTRICT POLICE STATION WITH SINGLE
5/14/87
BIDDER TO ENSURE THAT TOTAL COST
DOES NOT EXCEED $5 MILLION.
48.
CONTINUED DISCUSSION RE: AUTHORIZE
DISCUSSION
122-123
INTERVIEW OF THREE COMMUNITY BASED
5/14/87
NOT -FOR -PROFIT CORPORATIONS FOR
MANAGEMENT SERVICES AT BAYFRONT
PARK (SEE LABEL #30)
49.
APPOINT WILLIAM ALEXANDER AND JORGE
R-87-457
123-127
DE TUYA TO THE PRIVATE INDUSTRY
5/14/87
COUNCIL.
50.
APPOINT CHARLES PEREIRA AND WALTER
R-87-458
127-128
B. MARTINEZ TO THE LATIN QUARTER
5/14/87
REVIEW BOARD (SEE LABEL #31)
51.
APPOINT DARIO PEDRAJO, DANIEL
R-87-459
128-129
KIPNIS, AND ARMANDO PARES TO THE
5/14/87
WATERFRONT BOARD.
52.
APPOINT ROGER BIAMBY AND PATRICK
R-87-460
130-131
WHITE TO THE AFFIRMATIVE ACTION
5/14/87
ADVISORY BOARD.
53.
APPOINT JAMES ARMSTRONG TO THE
R-87-461
131-132
AUDIT COMMITTEE TO REVIEW THE DADE
5/14/87
WATER AND SEWER AUTHORITY BUDGET.
54.
ALLOCATE $2500 TO PUERTO RICO
R-87-462
132-133
FESTIVAL COMMITTEE.
5/14/87
55.
ALLOCATE $50,000 TO THE ALLAPATTAH
M-87-463
133-134
BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY FOR
5/14/87
THEIR FAIR.
56.
EMERGENCY ORDINANCE: ISSUE GENERAL
ORDINANCE
134-136
OBLIGATION REFUNDING BONDS (SEE
10272
LABEL #34)
5/14/87
57.
REQUEST PLAN FOR DVELOPMENT OF
M-87-464
136-139
PORTION OF FERN ISLE PARK.
5/14/87
58.
GRANT PERMITS FOR FIREWORKS,
R-87-465
140
PEDDLERS AND CLOSURE OF STREETS FOR
CARNAVAL MIAMI.
59.
LETTERS IN CONNECTION WITH OWNERS
M - 8 7 - 4 6 6
140-144
NOTIFICATION FORM FOR POSSIBLE
5/14/87
FILING OF RICO LIENS TO BE SENT TO
ATTORNEY GENERAL.
60.
DISCUSSION BY CRIME PREVENTION
DISCUSSION
145-146
PROGRAM REPRESENTATIVE OF THE
5/14/87
PUBLIC NUISANCE ORDINANCE.
61.
(A) PUBLIC HEARING - APPROVE
R-87-467
147-176
BOUNDARY STREETS OF LATIN QUARTER
M-87-468
DISTRICT CO -DESIGNATION. (B)
5/14/87
APPROVE IN PRINCIPLE PROPOSED
STREET CO -DESIGNATION PROGRAM FOR
LATIN QUARTER DISTRICT; REQUEST ONE
THIRD OF NAMES TO BE WOMEN'S.
62.
DEFER CONSIDERATION OF EXTENSION OF
DISCUSSION
176-178
CONTRACT WITH AIDA LEVITAN.
5/14/87
63.
DISCUSSION RE CHANNEL 10 STATEMENT
DISCUSSION
178-179
IN CONNECTION WITH COMMISSIONER
5/14/87
CAROLLO.
64.
(A) DEMAND HERALD CLARIFICATION OF
R-87-469
179-201
STATEMENT RE CAROLLO AND SISTER
M-87-470
CITIES CONVENTION. (B) PROPOSE
R-87-471
CHARTER AMENDMENT REFERENDUM:
5/14/87
SHOULD CITY SUBSIDIZE COMMUNIST
GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS COMING TO
MIAMI FOR CONVENTIONS. (C) CITY
WELCOMES SISTER CITIES
INTERNATIONAL ANNUAL CONFERENCE TO
MIAMI.
65.
RENAME MAGNOLIA PARK TO ALBERT E.
R-87-472
201-203
PALLOT PRK.
5/14/87
66.
STAR IMPRINTS ON SIDEWALKS OF
M-87-473
203-204
DESIGN CENTER DISTRICT.
5/14/87
67.
CLOSE STREET FOR THE "MIRACLE LUNCH
R-87-474
204-207
BRUNCH" ON BEHALF OF MIAMI
5/14/87
CHILDRENS HOSPITAL (BUILDING OWNERS
AND MANAGERS ASSOCIATION OF GREATER
MIAMI)
68.
DISCUSSION RE CITY HIRING
DISCUSSION
207-216
PRACTICES; LEE AMATO'S COMPLAINT OF
5/14/87
FIRE DEPARTMENT.
69.
DONATE 12 AUTOS TO NATIONAL
M-87-475
216-218
ASSOCIATION C.B. OF FLORIDA FOR
5/14/87
COMMUNITY SERVICES PROGRAM.
70.
ALLOCATE $50,000 TO "COPS CARE -
M-87-476
219-224
OPERATION HOMELESS" FOR FUND RAISER
5/14/87
AT ORANGE BOWL.
71.
CONSIDER PARK IN BRICKELL AREA.
M-87-477
225-230
5/14/87
72.
DISCUSSION RE HYDROFOIL (IN NEED OF
DISCUSSION
231-237
LOAN (SEE LABEL #76)
5/14/87
73.
ALLOCATE $4000 TO GOLD-DIGGERS FOR
R-87-478
237-239
TICKETS TO BE DONATED TO NEEDY
5/14/87
INNER CITY SCHOOL CHILDREN.
74.
(A) REQUEST COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD TO
R - 8 7 - 4 7 9
239-243
DONATE SURPLUS FURNITURE TO CITY OF
R-87-479.1
MIAMI (B) DONATE SURPLUS FURNITURE
M-87-480
TO HAITIAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY
5/14/87
ASSOCIATION OF DADE COUNTY (C)
ALLOCATE $20,000 TO HAITIAN
AMERICAN COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION OF
DADE COUNTY FOR ONE PARALEGAL
POSITION FOR IMMIGRATION
ASSISTANCE.
75.
FIRST READING ORDINANCE: IMPACT
FIRST
243-245
FEES.
READING
5/14/87
76.
GOING ON RECORD SUPPORTING THE
M-87-481
245-246
HYDROFOIL TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM
5/14/87
(SEE LABEL #72)
77.
DISCUSSION RE BOND COUNSEL.
DISCUSSION
246-248
5/14/87
78.
DISCUSSION RE ALLEGED FAILURE OF
DISCUSSION
248
CAPITAL BANK, NCNB HEMISPHERE BANK
5/14/87
AND TOTAL BANK TO FINANCE HOUSING
PROJECT FOR MR. BOYD AND MS. BLOCH.
79.
DISCUSSION RE HOUSING IN
DISCUSSION
249-250
OVERTOWN/PARK WEST AREA.
5/14/87
80.
(A) BRIEF DISCUSSION RE REQUEST FOR
DISCUSSION
250-251
NEXT AGENDA PORT BRIDGE ISSUE; (B)
5/14/87
BRIEF DISCUSSION RE REQUEST FOR
NEXT AGENDA ISSUE OF BOUNDARY FOR
EDISON LITTLE RIVER AREA; (C) BRIEF
DISCUSSION RE SCHOOL ZONES NEED
FLASHING LIGHT.
MINUTES OF REGULAR MEETING OF THE
CITY COMMISSION OF MIAMI, FLORIDA
On the 14th day of May, 1987, the City Commission of Miami, Florida, met
at its regular meeting place in the City Hall, 3500 Pan American Drive, Miami,
Florida in regular session.
The meeting was called to order at 9:15 a.m. by Mayor Xavier Suarez
with the following members of the Commission found to be present:
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
ALSO PRESENT:
Cesar Odio, City Manager
Walter J. Foeman, Assistant City Clerk
An invocation was delivered by Mayor Suarez who then led those present
in a pledge of allegiance to the flag.
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1. PRESENTATIONS, PROCLAMATIONS, SPECIAL ITEMS.
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PROCLAMATION: PARKINSON AWARENESS WEEK: Presented to Mr. Abel Holtz,
Chairman of Parkinson Awareness Week in support of the
efforts of the National Parkinson Foundation in conquering
and eradicating this affliction.
PROCLAMATION: NATIONAL SMALL BUSINESS WEEK: To recognize the contributions
the small business enterprises have made to national and
local development.
COMMENDATION: PALM SPRINGS ELEMENTARY SCHOOL: For a job well done to
realistically portray the Calle Ocho Festival.
APPRECIATION: SABRINA BAKER BOUIE: For the time and energy she has
devoted toward making -our City a better place to live.
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2. DISCUSSION RE: DRUG TESTING OF PARTICIPANTS OF THE SUMMER YOUTH
EMPLOYMENT AND TRAINING PROGRAM (See labels #24 and #37)
Mr. Dawkins: Mr. Mayor, I have two little items I'd like to get out of the
way, with your permission, please.
Mayor Suarez: Commissioner Dawkins.
Mr. Dawkins: I'd like to make a motion that the City Attorney be instructed
to research and bring back for action this afternoon, a resolution stating
that ... (AUDIO MALFUNCTION)... all individuals employed this summer with the
City of Miami must take a drug test, if you test positi-o you will not be
employed. That is everybody who will work in summer work programs in the City
of Miami. If we can get somebody who will... if these doctors will test them
(AUDIO MALFUNCTION) then they will not work in the City of Miami. Yes?
(AUDIO MALFUNCTION)
1 May 14, 1987
Mr. Dawkins: OK.
I'm
saying I
want the
City Attorney
to bring back a
resolution to me
this
afternoon
for this
Commission to
act. on.
That
resolution will state
that
those individuals
who apply for
employment
with
the City of Miami
will
be treated
just as
any other new
hire or in
hire
person, and they must be
tested for
drugs, and
if they test out positive,
they
will not work. How
many
slots do we
have, Frank?
INAUDIBLE BACKGROUND COMMENTS NOT ENTERED INTO THE, PUBLIC RECORD.
Mr. Dawkins: No, no, total. Total.
Mr. Castaneda: Eight hundred and forty-two slots.
Mr. Dawkins: That's all the City of Miami has?
Mr. Castaneda: Eight hundred twenty-four slots.
Mr. Dawkins: That's all we got?
Mr. Castaneda: Yes, 824.
Mr. Dawkins: And we can find 800 youngsters not on drugs, OK? I know that,
OK? So you bring that back and if it is legal, I'd like to do it, OK?
Mayor Suarez: Mr. City Attorney, Bob, would you be able to draft that up for
us for the afternoon session?
Mr. Robert Clark: I believe so.
Mayor Suarez: Thank you.
3. COMMISSION POLICY THAT NEVER SHALL ADMINISTRATION ENTER INTO NEGOTIATIONS
THAT WILL BE THE SUBJECT OF COMMISSION ACTION WITHOUT PRIOR APPROVAL BY
COMMISSION.
Mr. Dawkins: OK, the other thing is I make a motion that a public hearing be
held someplace Overtown, or that transportation be provided for individuals,
if you are desirous of holding it at City Hall, and I'd like to have a
hearing so that the people in that community can tell me that they want the
Camillus House in their neighborhood, OK? Now, I see here where somebody,
Matthew Schwartz, or somebody negotiated a deal to put the Camillus House in
Overtown, and then I heard this morning it is on the fringes of Overtown.
Either you got Overtown, or you don't have Overtown. I don't know what the
hell the fringe is, and don't care, but I make a motion that we have a public
hearing in Overtown, and let the people of Overtown tell me that they want
Camillus House there.
Mrs. Kennedy: Second.
Mayor Suarez: So moved and seconded. That's an eminently good idea. We
really have to make sure that the residents are aware of what it is that will
be located there, and hopefully it will be acceptable to them, and if it is
not, we shall know.
Mr. Plummer: One question. My understanding is that if Camillus House were
to go in, it is going to require a zoning hearing as well. Is the intent of
your motion, Commissioner Dawkins, which I am in favor of, to be in
conjunction with a zoning hearing, or just a hearing to possibly say yes or no
to go to the zoning hearing?
Mr. Odio: Commissioner, Matthew tells me that what they are planning to build
will not require a zoning hearing, because its zoned as a type of hotel.
Mayor Suarez: All the more reason for having a hearing.
Mr. Dawkins: A hotel?
Mr. Odio: It is kind of a hotel.
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May 14, 1987
Mr. Dawkins: A hotel? A hotel where?
Mr. Matthew Schwartz: What the concept of Camillus House today is to build a
single occupancy hundred room hotel on that site...
Mr. Dawkins: On what site?
Mr. Schwartz: On the site between 3rd Avenue and 4th Avenue between 4th
Street and 5th Street. This site adjacent in Overtown, just west of the
Expressway. The zoning will allow them to build a hotel.
Mr. Dawkins: You see, this is another disturbing point, then. See, I can't
get the banks to help me finance housing in Overtown, but now all of a sudden
you have got a non private organization that can get funding to put a hotel.
Mr. Plummer: Well, let me tell you what bothers me even more. If we are
going to hold a public hearing, and the decision of this Commission is that we
say no, from what I hear Matthew saying, they can build regardless of what
this Commission says. Why hold a public hearing and bring the people out with
false impressions?
Mr. Schwartz: If they build under the existing zoning, they can. There is no
public hearing needed.
Mr. Dawkins: And they don't need no zoning variances or nothing?
Mr. Schwartz: They are clinging to the concept, they haven't done the final
design of the building.
Mr. Dawkins: No, no, that is not what I asked you.
Mr. Schwartz: No, they can... if they do need any variances...
Mr. Dawkins: OK, I will tell you what. I will go on the record stating, if
they need any zoning variances at all, I am voting "no," and I hope I can
convince enough Commissioners up here to vote no, OK? Now, see, you guys can
go out here and make promises and come up with all kind of ideas, and then
tell me after the guy gets so far gone, he has got "X" number of dollars
invested and we don't want to hurt his feelings, therefore we are going to let
him do it, OK? Now, I am... and Matthew Schwartz and anybody else, I will
tell you, Camillus House and everybody, I am a little disturbed that you guys
would go ahead with this without my knowing it.
Mrs. Kennedy: I wish we would have had more input, Matthew, before you
started negotiations.
Mr. Dawkins: That is right, this is uncalled for.
M•rs. Kennedy: Right.
Mr.. Dawkins: See, for me to be up here saying I want to have a public
hearing, and don't even know that a public hearing, as J. L. says, is useless;
and you didn't even tell me, J. L. has got to tell me. See, and Mr. Bailey
and Mr. Manager, I hold this against you too, because Matthew Schwartz works
for you two. Now, OK?
Mr. Plummer: I will tell you what. That has been bothering me for 17 years.
Let me offer a motion. I make a motion...
Mr. Dawkins: I withdraw my motion, because...
Mr. Plummer: Of no value.
Mr. Dawkins: OK, go ahead.
Mr. Plummer: I make a motion at this time that the Administration never in
the future enter into any negotiations that will be a subject of Commission
action without first getting the approval of this Commission. I so move.
Mr. Dawkins: Second.
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Mrs. Kennedy: I'll be delighted to second that.
Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded, thirded.
Mr. Odio: For the record, before you vote, we have not entered into any
negotiations.
Mr. Plummer: Well, the Miami Herald says you have.
Mr. Odio: We have... staff has not entered into any negotiations.
Mr. Dawkins: OK, wait one minute. The proposed site is not new. Wait a
minute...
Mr. Plummer: Excuse me, Matthew Schwartz, come to the mike, if you would,
through the Manager.
Mrs. Kennedy: You know, to find out about something that we have been
discussing, through the Miami Herald, speaks very badly.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Schwartz.
Mr. Schwartz: We have not...
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Schwartz, sir, have you met with Brother Paul?
Mr. Schwartz: We met with Brother Paul last Friday.
Mr. Plummer: At whose direction?
Mr. Schwartz: Herb and I met with Brother Paul.
Mr. Odio: At my direction. They met at my direction...
Mr. Plummer: Is that not negotiating?
Mr. Odio: ... because we... no.
Mr. Plummer: What is it? Why did you meet? What was the purpose of your
meeting?
Mr. Herbert Bailey: Well, the purpose of it...
Mr. Plummer: May I speak with Mr. Schwartz? He was obviously the one
involved.
Mr. Schwartz: The purpose... we have been trying to meet with Brother Paul
since last November, when we had a meeting here when it was more or less
Brother Paul got very upset with the City, that the City was not going to
allow him to build at that property, to try to resolve the issue, to help him,
another site in the City of Miami, or Coral Gables, or another municipality to
relocate Camillus House because of the need to be relocated. He agreed
finally last Friday after there was an article in Thursday's Herald, to meet
with the City. In fact, I think he initiated this meeting last Friday. We
met with Michael Fitzgerald, his attorney, Herb, myself, and Brother Paul...
Mr. Plummer: And there was no negotiations.
Mr. Schwartz: And the discussion was, we talked about the existing zoning on
the property and if he would build under the existing zoning, it was said
that there would be no hearing. He also said. he had changed the concept of
Camillus House. He is not going to be running soup lines any more, and he is
going to be changing the type of operation, and our obligation... we went out,
and we met with the zoning administrator, the City, this week, to see under
the existing zoning what he could build on that site, and you can build a
hotel. Hotel is permissible, and that is as far as the negotiations. No offer
has been made to purchase the property again. They probably would need to get
reappraisals on the property, the appraisals are over a year and one-half old,
if the City is initiating to buy it, but there is no offer has been made to
Brother Paul.
Mr. Dawkins: Who owns the land you are talking about building on?
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Mr. Schwartz: Brother Paul. The Brothers of The Good Shepherd own the
property.
Mr. Plummer: OK, Mr. Pierce, through the Manager, in the event that this is
built, what restrictions can you put in so that in the event you find them
feeding or sleeping outside the building, you can tear it down?
Mr. Pierce: Going in up front, there are no restrictions that can be put in
if the proposed project complies with existing zoning regulations.
Mr. Dawkins: OK, but in the event...
Mayor Suarez: Unless he volunteers...
Mr. Dawkins: But in the event that for some reason they find we don't... and
they come before the Commission and tell me, "We decided at the beginning that
we wouldn't feed, but the people are here, and there is nothing we can do,
because they are here, so we have to feed them and they can sleep out around
here, there is nothing we can do about it, because they are in the public
streets," what then?
Mr. Pierce: The .,ly avenue we would have then would be to do a strict
analysis of the oning requirements for the particular district, and then
enforce those requirements.
Mr. Dawkins: Mr. Pierce, you are not answering... wait a minute, let me ask
it... can anybody ask it in Spanish, because he don't seem to understand
English! What I'm saying to you is, you understand clearly what I am saying,
OK? I'm going to ask it as elementary as I possibly can. If they build a
building, which you say we can't stop them from doing, and then we find that
they are the same homeless people that everybody is concerned about, are
sleeping in and around the building, on the streets, and then they decide that
they got so many people that they got to feed them, what restrictions can I
put in, as a resolution, or whatever, that let's them know that if you do
this, you lose your C.O., or whatever it is.
Mr. Pierce: If they should construct a new facility at the 5th Street
property, and if we observe them to be conducting what appears to be a rescue
mission as defined in the zoning ordinance, which matches exactly what they do
now, that would be a violation of the zoning ordinance and we could enforce
it, but as long as they are not going for a public hearing, and they are
building under the existing zoning, these are no restrictions or conditions
that can be applied up front.
Mayor Suarez: But, if they are operating what is in effect a rescue mission,
feeding people...
Mr. Pierce: We can then enforce the zoning ordinance...
Mayor Suarez: By doing what?
Mr. Pierce: Several different avenues. One avenue is to prosecute them
before the Code Enforcement Board, another is to go directly into the criminal
courts and a third option, perhaps, is the seeking of a permanent injunctive
release through the civil courts.
Mayor Suarez: Get a court order.
Mr. Dawkins: For the youngsters to understand what we are doing here, we have
the Camillus House, which is a halfway house that feeds people, and the
homeless people, and they have some place to sleep, OK? So, we have a
permission to develop the area around there with some very fancy hotels and
buildings and what have you, so the individuals now, who are going to build
the arena and the Bayside project, they are saying that these ugly... not ugly
people, but these people who are unkempt, and who are homeless, they don't
want them down there, they want to move them out, so because they want they
want to move them out, they want to throw them anywhere into the area of least
resistance. See, this is what happens when you don't participate in the
government. When you don't get involved and let your elected officials know
what you like and dislike, then we do anything, so that is one of them. So
that is dealing with the housing. The other thing that we did this morning,
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takes off on what you did yesterday, which said, "Say no to drugs," right?
So, you took off yesterday and had a big day and said, "Say no to drugs," so
we are saying up here today that we are going to follow through. When you say
no to drugs, we are saying no to drug users. We will not let you work for the
City, so those are the two items that I brought up, OK?
Mayor Suarez: So don't apply for summer jobs if you are involved in anything
like drugs.
Ms. Ann Marie Adker: While you are on the subject of the homeless, it seems
as though the City of Miami is preparing for and, has prepared for an
extensive, progressive, update of downtown and the Biscayne bayfront. We have
noted that a mandate given by either the Commissioners or the Manager to the
City of Miami Police Department to clean up the streets of downtown and
Bayside has driven those same people whom you don't wish to deal with, but I
have to. You know, they aren't... the nearest place for them is Overtown. It
seems as though these very intelligent minds would have thought of that, along
with the progress that they are putting intact. Now, you have got to find
some place for these people to go, other than taking up residence in my back
yard, OK? So, I wish while you are doing all this progress, you will attend
to that situation, because it is a problem in the City of Miami, and
especially in Overtown, and I am sick of it.
Mayor Suarez: Unfortunately, this Commission is on record as saying that they
don't... the Commission does not want to get involved with the problem of the
homeless, but because it is so huge, and we don't want to give the impression
that we are taking...
Ms. Adker: Well its here, its here, in the City of Miami.
Mayor Suarez: Please, Ann Marie, you had your say. ... that it is so huge,
and that the County and the State and the Federal government should be taking
care of it, which is certainly a fair comment. Yes, Jackie, very quickly.
Ms. Jackie Bell: Mr. Mayor, each one of us that are Black, or one pay check
away from being homeless. The saddest thing for me is that certainly
something should be done. Do everything that is against the good grain of a
community, have to be thrown there? You have senior citizens just on the
opposite side of where the site is. You have the government projects, which
each one of you knows what we are facing with that, and certainly Brother Paul
is doing a great job, and I thank him for it, but somehow or another, I know
that if you own land you can do what you want to do, but somehow or another,
Miller, and J.L., get with them, do something about that. Please don't bring
that kind of stuff back. If you read the newspaper, we are surrounded in that
area by public housing, and just like these kids were saying yesterday, "No to
drugs," we are saying no to all of the bad stuff, and our children need to see
something positive, and that is what we... and you need to talk to that
community because they are saying no to that.
Mayor Suarez: Talking about affordable housing, we have an emergency item,
East Little Havana Community Development needs for us to take steps so that
you can do your groundbreaking, which we were hoping would have been done
about a year ago. In the meantime, I will entertain a motion to approve the
minutes of...
Mr. Walter Foeman: Excuse me, Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Suarez: Yes.
Mr. Foeman: There is a motion on the floor.
Mayor Suarez: I guess it was withdrawn.
Mr. Plummer: No, my motion was on the floor.
Mr. Foeman: No, Commissioner...
Mayor Suarez: Oh, I am sorry, OK, we have a motion, do we have a second on
that?
Mr. Foeman: Yes, we do.
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Mayor Suarez: Seconded, any discussion? Call the roll.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved
its adoption:
MOTION NO. 87-409
A MOTION EXPRESSLY STATING THE INTENT AND POLICY OF THE
MIAMI CITY COMMISSION THAT NEVER IN THE FUTURE SHALL THE
CITY ADMINISTRATION ENTER INTO ANY NEGOTIATIONS OF
CRITICAL ISSUES THAT WILL BE THE SUBJECT OF CITY
COMMISSION ACTION WITHOUT FIRST OBTAINING THE APPROVAL OF
SAID COMMISSION.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Dawkins, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
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4. APPROVE IN PRINCIPLE TRANSFER OF SWIRE MONIES (FOR RIOPLAZA PROJECT) TO
BARNETT BANK AS REQUESTED BY EAST LITTLE HAVANA DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION.
Mayor Suarez: OK, proceed, and we will go bick to approving the minutes of
prior meetings. Go ahead, counselor.
Ms. Maria Elena Prio: OK, good morning, my name is Maria Elena Prio. I live
at 1541 Brickell Avenue, and I am the president of the East Little Havana
Community Development Corporation. The Commission will recall that when the
Commission approved the East Little Havana site for the development of low and
moderate income housing with Swire or Claughton Island developer money, the
Commission required that the funds be placed in escrow with an escrow agent,
that 20 percent of the funds be withheld from disbursement until completion of
the project, and that the disbursement occur pursuant to a construction
disbursement schedule as approved by the City Commission. Furthermore, the
Commission's resolution of that time provided that with respect to certain
items shown on the preliminary construction schedule and specifically,
marketing, developer's overhead after six months, and contingency, no
disbursements were to take place without further City Commission approval.
Since that time the East Little Havana C.D.C. has moved forward with the
development of the Rioplaza project. The land for the project has been
acquired. We have also obtained all of the required lending commitments for
the project. Barnett Bank, together with the Ford Foundation, and LISK, which
is another foundation out of New York, have committed to lend the project
$4,150,000 for the purposes of construction. Of that amount, Barnett will be
lending $3,450,000, Ford Foundation will be lending $450,000, and LISK will be
lending $250,000. In addition, we have obtained from Barnett Bank a
commitment to provide first mortgage loans to all of the individual
homeowners, and of course, we have also obtained a commitment from the Dade
County surtax program for second mortgages for all the units. So in sum, the
project Rioplaza is ready to start. We expect to obtain the building permit
in the next few days, and our groundbreaking will be May 29th and you all are
being invited. As part of the closing of the construction loan, all three of
the institutions providing construction loans are requiring that the balance
of the Swire money now being held by the Dade Foundation in escrow be
transferred to Barnett Bank, to be disbursed by Barnett under the terms of our
construction loan agreement with them. The lenders require that all of the
Swire funds, including the 20 percent hold -back, be disbursed first, prior to
disbursement of the construction loans. If you approve our request, while
there will no longer be a specific hold -back of 20 percent of the Swire grant,
the Commission should be mindful of the fact, that as is customary with any
construction project, the construction lender will be retaining ten percent
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from each disbursement for hard costs for construction, so by the time the
project is completed, there will be a retainage of approximately $360,000,
being more or less, ten percent, of the hard cost of construction. We are here
to request that the Commission authorize that once the balance of the Swire
funds are transferred to Barnett Bank, all of these f::nds may be disbursed
with the approval of Barnett Bank under the construction loan agreement; so
the essence of our request is threefold - first, for you to authorize the
transfer of the balance of the Swire funds to Barnett Bank, from the Dade
Foundation to Barnett Bank; secondly, that the funds no longer be subject to a
20 percent hold -back requirement, since the lenders require that all of the
Swire funds be spent first on the project, before construction loan monies are
spent; and third, that disbursements, once the funds are transferred to
Barnett, including those for marketing, developer's overhead, and contingency,
be subject only to the approval of Barnett Bank as a construction lender, and
Mr. Ottmar Olson from Barnett Bank is here, should you have any questions for
him.
Mayor Suarez: Let's see if the Commissioners have any questions of Mr. Olson.
Do you have now a complete financial package, both for construction and
permanent financing?
Ms. Prio: Yes, sir.
Mr. Plummer: Excuse me, read to me, number three again. I think that is the
one I...
Mrs. Kennedy: It is subject to approval.
Mr. Plummer: No, they are taking it out of the hands of the Commission and
putting it in the hands of the bank.
(NOTE FOR THE RECORD: COMMISSIONER CAROLLO ENTERED THE MEETING AT 9:44 A.M.)
Ms. Prio: That the disbursement, once the funds are transferred to Barnett,
including those for marketing, developer's overhead, contingency be subject
only to the approval of Barnett Bank.
Mr. Plummer: I can't go along with that. That was this Commission's reserved
right to make sure that the project at all times was going to be under the
control of this Commission. Now, I can go along with the others, but you are
asking me first to give up the financial portion which we reserved to have
control, and now you are asking to give that money to the bank and give up
complete control. I just... that...
Mayor Suarez: Will the bank accept a co - signature situation?
Mr. Plummer: Well, they are saying, give it to the bank. That takes it out
of our hands and put it into the banks hands. We were very concerned at the
time, as you will well recall, especially in the area of the contingency.
Now, I can't go along with that number three.
Ms. Prio: Commissioner, the banks requirements are pretty stringent for
construction.
} Mr. Plummer: I understand that and that is their desire, but here again, I
Ithink this Commission, in all four projects wanted to retain some control, and
the only control that we could have was that particular item. I don't think
it is fair to ask... what you are asking is, this Commission please wipe your
hands clean. Give up the money, give up the control, and I just don't think
this Commission is ready to do that. I think we have an obligation to make
sure that these things are done and done right, and that is why I would have
an objection to the third item.
Mrs. Kennedy: I'd like to hear from Barnett Bank, too.
Mr. Art Moralson: OK, my name is Art Moralson, I am with Barnett Bank. I am
a vice president, commercial real estate. My address is 5720 S.W. 52nd
Terrace in South Miami. The dual signature that you are talking about, Mayor,
that would be a very realistic request, we could do that. The bank's concern,
is that each one of the dollars that were put into the original grant of
$1,600,000 are spent in the project as they are intended.
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Mr. Plummer: That's what we want to do.
Mr. Moralson: Yes, sir, and what I can do, is we are talking about basically
two draws. It would probably happen twice in the span of the next two months,
possibly just one draw, where that the bank will monitor the expenditures. We
will put together receipts. We will have our engineers and inspectors look at
the costs and make sure they were spent properly. We will sign off on them,
then we will bring them here before the Commission and let you approve it.
Mayor Suarez: No, wait, maybe the Commission is willing to have the Manager
sign off. That's...
{ Mr. Moralson: OK, however you want to do it. We could do that. We could
create the dual signature. Our concern is that all the people involved at the
bank, our engineers, our inspectors, myself, the people that are involved in
watching these costs are able to check on it.
Mr. Plummer: You have every right to request that kind of a situation, and
you do that in your inception with your loan, but you have those rights, but
all I am saying to you is, do not deny this Commission the same right.
Mr. Moralson: I have no problem with that, sir.
Mr. Plummer: Well, that is what was being requested.
INAUDIBLE BACKGROUND COMMENTS NOT ENTERED INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD.
Mr. Moralson: We could create a co -signature type of draft on the funds and
could make it...
Mr. Plummer: No, then I have no problems.
Mr. Moralson: OK, to make it timely, we will do possibly one.
Mr. Plummer: Has the Administration had the time to go over this thing? What
is your recommendation?
Mr. Dawkins: It is a pocket item, how can they over them.
Mr. Plummer: I don't know.
Mrs. Kennedy: Yes, but you see, a pocket... I was told that the only thing
requested of this Commission, Mr. Manager, was to authorize the transfer from
the Dade Foundation to Barnett Bank.
INAUDIBLE BACKGROUND COMMENTS NOT ENTERED INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD.
Mrs. Kennedy: It is more than that.
Mr. Plummer: Yes, it is much more than that.
Mr. Gereaux: I have talked to the people from Barnett Bank as well as the
people from the East Little Havana Development Authority about that. I have
gone over their numbers and the background of what the Commission requested,
{ and I am supportive and recommend that we take this action with the provision
that there be a co -signature on the draws. This is normal bank practice. They
have all the fund escrowed in one place, but I understand the Commission's
concern about wanting to maintain that control and getting the project done
efficiently within the Commission's intent, and also the intent of the East
Little Havana Development Authority, so I would recommend this on a condition
that their will be a co -signature when the remaining $400,000 in escrow is
drawn down for the project.
Mr. Plummer: As long as we retain the control, that would, you know... and
let's understand, the only reason we wanted to control was to make sure it was
done right, and it was done!
Mrs. Kennedy: What is the pleasure of this Commission? Do we want to break
this into three separate motions?
Mr. Plummer: Well, I don't think you can do it on a pocket item? I think you
are going to have to do it in the form of a... Mr. City Attorney?
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Mr. Clark: We will bring back a finished document, because we are going to
make sure that it is clear to all five of you, and I don't think you can do it
today. You can indicate approval and we will prepare a document which will
spell it out.
Mr. Plummer: What you are saying is moving it in principle.
Mr. Clark: You are right.
Mrs. Kennedy: I so move.
Mayor Suarez: Moved in principle.
_ Mr. Plummer: With the understanding of a co -signature on any sign off, I
second the motion.
Mayor Suarez: Seconded. Any discussion? With all those provisos, call the
roll.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Kennedy, who moved
its adoption:
MOTION NO. 87-410
A MOTION APPROVING IN PRINCIPLE A REQUEST MADE BY
REPRESENTATIVES OF THE EAST LITTLE HAVANA DEVELOPMENT
CORPORATION TO TRANSFER THE BALANCE OF THE SWIRE
MONIES (WHICH ARE TO BE USED IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE
RIOPLAZA PROJECT) CURRENTLY BEING HELD BY THE DADE
FOUNDATION IN ESCROW, TO THE BARNETT BANK, FOR THE
PURPOSE OF DISBURSEMENT BY BARNETT UNDER THE TERMS OF
ITS CONSTRUCTION LOAN AGREEMENT WITH EAST LITTLE
HAVANA COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION; FURTHER
ELIMINATING HOLDBACK REQUIREMENT THAT 20 PERCENT OF
SAID FUNDS BE WITHHELD FROM DISBURSEMENT UNTIL
COMPLETION OF SAID PROJECT: ALSO REQUIRING THAT THERE
BE A CO -SIGNATURE REQUIREMENT ON THE DRAFT WHEN THE
REMAINING $400,000 IN ESCROW IS DRAWN DOWN FOR THE
PROJECT.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
Mayor Suarez: We are one step closer. What about a ground breaking now?
Ms. Prio: May 29th, you are all invited.
Mrs. Kennedy: What time?
Mayor Suarez: You have got the building permit, or...?
Ms. Prio: We are going to be getting it this week, or the beginning of the
next.
Mayor Suarez: OK, don't forget to notify, you know, us, if you have any
impediments, please.
Ms. Prio: We don't any longer want to call it the project, but Rioplaza
Condominium, it has a name.
Mrs. Kennedy: Good luck.
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Mayor Suarez: Did you say the time?
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Mr. Carollo: Rio what?
Ms. Prio: Rioplaza, one word.
Mr. Carollo: Rioplaza, OK, that is a good name.
Mr. Plummer: Wait, what was the name?
Ms. Prio: Rioplaza.
Mr. Carollo: I thought I heard first Rioplaza, so I was wondering.
Mr. Plummer: Now, let me tell you in a lunch hasted by....
Mrs. Kennedy: Is that a Sister City?
Mr. Plummer: ... let me tell you what you might want to consider, maybe not you,
but this Commission. At a lunch hosted by the bank the other day, there was a
proffer by Carlos Arbolea, which I think is a good thing to think about. I
would love to see in some way that this project carry the name of Barnett
Bank. We start a competition among the banks to have a pride in their
community to in fact, have a Sun Bank project, a Capital Bank project, an M
Bank project, and I tell you something, not only will we maybe encourage more
housing, but the pride of keeping it as first class, that they would not like
to see the Sun Bank with run down yards, or the Barnett Bank with a playground
of equipment broken. I would hope that you would consider that, because I
think it is a competitive thing where we've gone into the system about Adopt -
A Park, OK?... and we are trying to get major corporations to come in with a
pride of "That's my park, and look how pretty it is." I would hope that we
could get Barnett's name someway tied in with this project, because Barnett is
going to make damn sure that, that project stays in a first class condition,
because they don't want their name associated with something that is trot good.
I hope you will consider that.
Ms. Prio: Thank you. I will certainly present that to the Board of
Directors. Thank you.
Mayor Suarez: Thank you, keep up the good work and we will soon see that
first unit built.
5. DISCUSSION RE: PARCEL OF LAND TO BE PROVIDED TO "LIGA CONTRA EL CANCER"
Mr. Carollo: I've got a pocket item to bring up, Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Suarez: Commissioner.
Mr. Carollo: Over two years ago, probably closer to three years ago, when
three of us were on the previous Commission, there was a commitment made by
that Commission at the time that we would give a parcel of land. When we say
give, that doesn't necessarily mean to give the land fully, we could lease it
for a year. There are many other ways of going about it, but we made a
commitment that we would give some land to Liga Contra el Cancer. That was a
commitment this Commission made. All of a sudden, after we discussed it and
it became public, so-called pillars of the community came out against it.
Now, it is funny, these pillars of the community have never come out against
any other group that provides such service to the community, but just because
this was Liga Contra E1 Cancer, all of a sudden the pillars of the community
came out opposing it. Now, this organization is a service organization, the
League Against Cancer, that... OK, now this organization, their main objective
is to help people, people of all races or ethnic groups that might be stricken
by cancer. They have spent millions of dollars in curing thousands of people
and helping thousands of people of this community. I think this Commission
has an obligation to live up to that commitment and do whatever we have to do
within the bounds of our City Charter, legal constitution, to make sure that
we live up to that commitment. What I would like to find out from the City
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Manager, is just where do we stand at, in whatever steps were taken, to assure
that we would keep our commitment?
Mayor Suarez: What is your status? I could have sworn that we asked the City
to look at the possibility, if it cannot be done in one park, that we thought
about, in some other place, that we are supposed to get a status report back.
Mr. Carollo: That is correct, yes.
Mayor Suarez: OK, well, would you get that to us during the day?
Mr. Carollo: And I want to make sure that we don't play around anymore with
this, Mr. Manager, but whatever has to be done, is done, and let the votes
fall where they may, and whomever might want to challenge it, then let's have
it out in the open then.
Mr. Al Armada: Good morning. I'm sorry, what is the question?
Mayor Suarez: I thought you just offered to answer it.
Mr. Carollo: Apparently, that is what has been going on for the last three
years, what was your question!
Mr. Armada: They are interested in the Southside Park.
Mayor Suarez: OK, but alternative to that, if it turns out that that is
against the Charter or whatever, have you come up with any other suggestions,
any other properties or anything? I could have sworn the Commission asked you
to do that.
Mr. Armada: No, because of the size of the structure that they want to build,
OK, we don't have enough real estate, OK, to be able to build the kind of
structure that they want.
Mayor Suarez: Well, you should be coming back and telling us that pretty
soon, not just sort of waiting for...
Mr. Armada: Well, I will do that, and the best that I can tell you, is that I
have spoken with Mrs. Aguilar a couple of times, and I have told her the
process, and I have told her that the Southside Park in effect, can be bided
out, but it has to be through a competitive bidding process and it will...
Mr. Carollo: We understand all that. My question is...
Mr. Armada: Yes, sir.
Mr. Carollo: ... if you've explained all this to her, then how come you
haven't come back to this Commission, and explaining it to us?
Mr. Armada: Well, I apologize for that, I just have not...
Mr. Carollo: Second of all, we are discussing a process of bidding. Maybe
the attorney could explain this better to us, but if we might go about it in
j a different way, where the City would be involved with them, would we then
1 have to place it to a bid? In other words, the City would not lose its
ownership of that land, and we might be involved in some way, in the
construction of this building, through us giving land that we would still hold
ownership to, would there be any legal way, that we could do this, Mr. Clark?
Mr. Clark: At the present time, the City has recognized the availability of
use permits, where we do not engage in competitive bidding, we simple
authorize the Manager to issue a revocable permit.
Mr. Plummer: That is the problem. That is fine, and that sounds good and it
works, but try to get financing.
Mayor Suarez: Yes, you won't be able to build a permanent structure with that
kind of a...
Mr. Plummer: There is no way. There is no way! I think what Commissioner
Carollo, and I back him to the hilt on this, because we did make a
commitment - I think what we are saying, is that we want you to come back on
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the 28th, and don't give us reasons why you cannot. We want you to come back
on the 28th and tell us how we are going to do it, because we want to do it.
Mr. Carollo: That's the bottom line.
Mr. Armada: OK, we'll do it. We'll do it.
Mayor Suarez: OK, get a report back in writing as soon as possible, please,
Al.
Mr. Carollo: Mr. Manager, can you make sure that this is one of the first
items on the agenda, on the 28th, please?
Mayor Suarez: Vice -Mayor Plummer.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I would just like to bring up to the Administration,
and if it need monies from this Commission, the people of Simpson Park, in and
around that park, are experiencing a very, very, bad situation.
INAUDIBLE BACKGROUND COMMENTS NOT ENTERED INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD.
Mr. Plummer: Sir, are you going to put a fence around it? That's going to be
done. Thank you, sir.
NOTE FOR THE RECORD: THE MINUTES OF THE MEETINGS OF FEBRUARY 12 AND 26, 1987
WERE APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY.
6. A. AUTHORIZE SUBMITTAL OF GRANT PROGRAM FINAL STATEMENT TO U.S.
DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT FOR CITY'S PROPOSED
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM;
B. SCHEDULE PUBLIC HEARING FOR DISBURSEMENT OF FUNDS FOR CITY'S
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM.
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Mayor Suarez: Agenda item 1.
Mr. Plummer: What about C?
Mr. Odio: That is withdrawn.
Mr. Plummer: Oh.
Mayor Suarez: Item 1 is a resolution authorizing submittal of grant program,
final statement. This sounds like C.D.B.G. I bet it is C.D.B.G., Community
Development Block Grant money.
Mr. Dawkins: Where is Mrs. Adker?
- Mayor Suarez: Frank?
Mr. Dawkins: We are just merely authorizing you to apply for the funds,
right?
Mr. Castaneda: Right, that is correct.
Mr. Dawkins: So moved.
Mayor Suarez: Moved.
Mr. Carollo: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Seconded.
Mr. Plummer: Question.
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Mayor Suarez: Mr. Vice -Mayor.
Mr. Plummer: When you say that you are applying for these funds, you are also
then submitting a proposal as to the allocation of those funds.
j Mr. Castaneda: That is correct, Commissioner.
Mr. Plummer: For the record, and making it very clear, that those allocations
so contained in the application are not in any way, the final decision of this
Commission.
Mr. Castaneda: No, we will be coming back to you with authority to enter into
contract with the particular agency, either at the first meeting... first
meeting in June.
Mr. Plummer: You will come back to this Commission for the direction of which
agencies, and how much you are going to enter into.
Mr. Castaneda: Well, we will be coming back to the Commission with the amount
that appears in the application, asking Commission approval to authorize us to
enter into a contract for those amounts. Obviously, the Commission can change
it at that time.
Mr. Plummer: That is what I wanted on the record.
Mayor Suarez: Now, we had presentations made last time. We have a motion and
a second to adopt these proposals and the request for the grant monies,
submission of the grant monies. We did take testimony from the various
groups. If there is any group that was not heard last time, we will take very
brief testimony from them. Oh, you were heard last...
Mr. Plummer: Excuse me, Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Suarez: Yes, Mr. Vice -Mayor.
Mr. Plummer: Are we going to be out of line, I mean, to this extent, this is
just the application for the grant, and you are going to have another meeting
in which the allocations will be determined, why take testimony now, when you
are going to have the final "Amen Day," when you actually make the
allocations?
Mayor Suarez: It is just that we did it last time, and we deferred this item
after much discussion, in fairness to the groups that didn't get to speak.
Mr. Plummer: OK, I'm... good.
Mayor Suarez: Now, I've got no problem with waiting for the final
determination.
! Mr. Plummer: To me, everybody is going to want to speak on "Amen Day," OK?...
' and...
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Mayor Suarez: Yes, and we will never get out of it, just like last year.
Were you here last time?
Ms. Diane Silverman: I was here last time, but from what I understand, the
Community Gardens package...
Mayor Suarez: We need your name and what organization.
Ms. Silverman: My name is Diane Silverman, I am the executive director of End
World Hunger, 1460 West McNabb Road, Fort Lauderdale.
Mayor Suarez: Oh, yes.
Ms. Silverman: And this is concerning the Miami -Dade Community Garden
project, and I was advised by Mr. Castaneda's office that Community Gardening
is not included in that package, so I really need to be instructed as to how
to proceed with this, because, and I want to keep the opportunity that we
have, with the Commission and the City of Miami and End World Hunger has to
provide community gardens in low income neighborhoods, so people can become
self-sufficient with food, and frankly, I am confused, and I don't quite know
how to proceed, and I need some advice.
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Mayor Suarez: What did we decide on End World !iunger? - I thought we referred
them back to you for a whole different handling of it?
Mr. Castaneda: Right, it was referred to us as an economic development
project and HUD is still arguing that it is a social services program, and it
would have to be included as part of
Mayor Suarez: OK, we will have to take up that item at a different time. You
have to reschedule then. If determination of the Administration is that you
cannot be characterized as social service...
Mr. Castaneda: No, it has to be!
Mayor Suarez: I am sorry, economic development, then we will just have to
look for the monies elsewhere. I can't imagine that you know, $30,000, is
that big an impediment, but we cannot take it at this particular point from
C.D.B.G. At least, it is not the City's recommendation and there is nothing
we can do about arguing about it today. Just don't give up on it, at least
don't give up on me ,and I know some of the Commissioner would like to help
you get that money and get that project under way, if we have to go to
volunteer groups.
Ms. Silverman: Thank you.
Mayor Suarez: OK.
Mr. Plummer: When did you schedule the public hearing for amen day?
Mr. Castaneda: Do you want a public hearing?
Mr. Plummer: Do I want it? No! Is it going to be necessary? Yes!
Mr. Castaneda: Historically, you have not done that, Commissioner.
Mr. Plummer: On social service aspect of it.
Mr. Castaneda: You have not done that.
Mr. Plummer: Yes, but historically we have also had federal revenue sharing,
which we don't have anymore, and the dollars... (AUDIO DISTURBANCE)... hello
there! Excuse me, God, I was only kidding.
Mr. Dawkins: Come and get him, whoever is looking for him!
Mr. Castaneda: Commissioner, your speech is electrifying!
Mr. Plummer: May they so be understood by you. Next time I won't be kidding.
Mayor Suarez: We have... I know we have the Flagami group, Sergio, and you
have to make sure that you make presentations to the Commissioners before we
make that final determination. I have not had a presentation made to me, and
I know the other Commissioners may not have, so let's do that... not today,
not today, but I suggest you do that individually, and I will be happy to meet
you and see what the proposals are about.
Mr. Plummer: Well, I will just put, Frank on the record very quickly. You
know that my criteria for 17 years has been that feed hungry and take care of
the ill and then we will worry about what is left over. As I recall, there
are two organizations in this grant that do not meet my criteria. Now, I
don't want to vote against the application, but I do want the chance to fight
my fight of how those allocations are going to be made.
Mr. Castaneda: Right, one of them is Belafonte Tacolcy. I don't know which
other one you are referring to.
Mr. Plummer: Well, you see, Belafonte Tacolcy is getting a grant, yet further
on in the agenda, they are getting how much in that?
Mr. Castaneda: That is for the summer program.
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Mr. Plummer: Yes, but it is a grant of money. ?:ow mlich are they getting
i there?
Mr. Castaneda: $150,000.
Mr. Plummer: See, all of this stuff adds up, and without a public hearing,
how do you make a determination? Hey, look, I am with you. I've always been
with Tacolcy, and I will be, but I don't think it should be coming out of
social services money, OK?
Mr. Dawkins: When you don't have it?
INAUDIBLE BACKGROUND COMMENTS NOT ENTERED INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD.
Mr. Plummer: No, they are recommending it. They are recommended, and 1 just
don't think that that kind of a program should be tinder social services. It
should be either in Parks and Recreation, or some other direct line of
budgeting.
Mr. John Bennett: And I am not arguing that either, Commissioner, I am
saying, but you have the wherewith to put U.S. over there. We are not saying
that we should be there.
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Mr. Plummer: That is exactly why we have to have a public hearing.
Mayor Suarez. The voice you heard on the record was John Bennett.
Mr. Bennett: John Bennett, Belafonte Tacolcy Center.
Mr. Plummer: Frank, how much money is in the C.D. allocation for Tacolcy?
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Mr. Castaneda: $66,000.
Mr. Plummer: Now, we could take that $66,000 and put it over in Parks and
Recreation budget, and that way we could free up this money for social
services that are badly needed.
Mr. Bennett: I have no problem at all...
Mr. Plummer: You have got the Southwest organization over here who nee•'.s
additional dollars. You need the old people's thing for additional dollars.
But, if you have got that locked in under C.D. money, your cap is already
there, you can't allocate any more money. I'm saying, give this Commission
the freedom to do what I think they want to do.
Mr. Bennett: Mr. Commissioner, I don't want us to be left out now. I mean,
if you move the money, we still must run a recreation program.
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Mr. Plummer: Tacolcy, in 17 years, how many times have you had a negative
from me?
Mr. Bennett: None.
Mr. Plummer: OK, I don't plan on changing. Mr. Manager, you better hear what
I am saying. I'm saying that I don't believe that recreational programs
belong under social service of C.D. It is going to be my intent at the public
hearing, for example, Tacolcy Center is $66,000 of social money. I think that
should be a part of the regular Parks and Recreation budget, and I am going to
move at that time, that that monies be included in next year's budget under
Parks and Recreation...
INAUDIBLE BACKGROUND COMMENTS NOT ENTERED INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD.
Mr. Plummer: ... General Fund to allow this Commission to spend those dollars
for much needed services to the community, but if you don't do those kinds of
things, we are locked in a 15 percent cap, and our hands are tied!
Mr. Odio: No, Commissioner, you have a right to do whatever you want, fine.
Mr. Plummer: Well, OK, I am just using that as an example. Tacolcy, I
guarantee you, that this vote will make damn sure that you are included, but
not under social services, that isn't where you belong.
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Mr. Bennett: Fine.
Mayor Suarez: OK, they are not included in the recommendations under
C.D.B.G.? Oh, they are included?
Mr. Castaneda: No, they are.
Mayor Suarez: They are included? OK, for myself, you know distinction is not
that important one way or the other, you have my vote. Jackie.
Mr. Plummer: Well, but you see, Mr. Mayor, please understand me.
Mayor Suarez: Fine, there is no need to argue about it. I mean, sooner or
later, we will get to...
Mr. Plummer: No, no, the distinction is to free up the money under where we
have a very tight restriction.
Mayor Suarez: I know, but we also have tight restrictions on the Parks
budget. I mean, I don't... whichever. Jackie, do you want to say something
finally?
Ms. Jackie Bell: Yes, Jackie Bell, New Washington Heights. Last time when we
came down, when they were going to submit the grant, you said you supported
US. What I need from you is to make sure that it is in this allocation. The
reason is, we need to plan, as you well know, in August we will come up with
the RFP and we need that administrative money and I need to plan. Our
contract ended the end of June and we need to know that we are in the next
year's grant. I have met with Frank.
Mr. Plummer: Well, why don't we schedule a public hearing on June llth? Is
that agreeable? I mean, you run out the end of June, so we hold it the first
meeting in June. I so move that a public hearing... well, first of all, I
guess we better... I'll move that we approve item 1.
Mayor Suarez: We have a motion and a second on that already.
Mr. Plummer: Oh, I am sorry.
Mr. Dawkins: We are under discussion now.
Mayor Suarez: Yes. Do you want to call the roll on that? Close the question
on that motion. Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Dawkins, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 87-411
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO SUBMIT THE
ATTACHED APPROVED GRANT PROGRAM FINAL STATEMENT TO THE
U.S. DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT (HUD)
REQUESTING FUNDS IN THE AMOUNT OF $11,940,000 FOR THE
CITY'S PROPOSED COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM DURING 1987-
1988; FURTHER AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER, UPON APPROVAL
OF SAID GRANT BY HUD, TO ACCEPT THE SAME AND EXECUTE THE
NECESSARY IMPLEMENTING CONTRACTS AND AGREEMENTS, SUBJECT
TO APPLICABLE CITY CODE PROVISIONS.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here
and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Carollo, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote-
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AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Mr. Plummer: I move that we have a public hearing on June 11th for the
allocation and distribution and contract signing for that money.
Mrs. Kennedy: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded. Any discussion? Call the roll on that.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved
its adoption:
MOTION NO. 87-412
A MOTION INSTRUCTING THE CITY MANAGER TO SCHEDULE A PUBLIC
HEARING ON JUNE 11, 1987 IN CONNECTION WITH DISBURSEMENT
OF FUNDS FOR THE CITY'S COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM
DURING FISCAL YEAR 1987-88.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Kennedy, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Mayor Suarez: Thank you, you were very eloquent this morning.
Mr. Carlos Luis Brito: My name is Carlos Luis Brito. I am the executive
director of Allapattah Business Development Authority , the only C.B.O.
working in Allapattah today, 1959 N.W. 22 Street, Miami, 33142. As you know,
the Allapattah Merchant's Association is not operating anymore in our area.
For that reason, our boundaries have been extended. In other words, our
C.B.O. is the only one doing the work of two community based organizations,
with two employees, and receiving compensation for only one. Definitely, we
need more personnel to be able to fulfill Allapattah's needs now, that the
Department of Community Development has increased our limit and work, our
responsibilities and goals. At this moment, we respectfully request an
increase of our compensation to $75,000 per year, which will help us to create
two new jobs, and also will save the taxpayers $25,000 a year, since you will
not have to create another C.B.O. in the area.
Mayor Suarez: What was the recommendation before, Carlos?
Mr. Brito: I beg your pardon?
Mayor Suarez: What was the recommendation before for A.B.D.A.?
Mr. Castaneda: Commissioner, for A.B.D.A., what we are recommending is
$50,000, which is what we recommended for all the community based
organizations. Their point is well taken, however. There used to be two
C.B.O.'s in the area. One was eliminated, and we are asking them to take over
the whole area.
Mayor Suarez: OK, we will take note of that, and we will be ready to take
action, hopefully at that public hearing on the llth. We have indicated, I
think and I have certainly have indicated for myself, and I think it is the
feeling of this Commission that the area of Allapattah generally, and
specifically the 36th Street, and 17th Avenue there, those dilapidated
buildings - it looks like something, that a war took place there, right across
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from Miami Jackson High School has got to be a top priority of the City of
Miami in the next few month and I don't know where the money is going to come
from, but we are going to find it, if it is up to me to do something about
that property. It is totally ridiculous for kids to be getting out of school
and having to face that kind of a situation right outside of the school.
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7. CONSENT AGENDA.
Mayor Suarez: OK, we have items two through thirty-one, which comprise the
Consent Agenda. We are withdrawing item 3, I have request from Robert
Campbell, is he here? Is Roberto here? OK, now, I will take up your item in a
little while, Robert.
Mr. Robert Campbell: Oh, OK.
Mayor Suarez: For item 10, at my request we are withdrawing that, we are
removing that from the Consent Agenda, and I have a request from Elizabeth
Joyce on item 26, so we are removing that also from the Consent Agenda. Any
other requests?
Mrs. Kennedy: I'd like pull 7, 21, and 23.
Mr. Plummer: Which ones?
Mrs. Kennedy: 7, 21 and 23.
Mr. Dawkins: Did you say 7?
Mrs. Kennedy: 7.
Mr. Dawkins: All right, pull 7, 8, 11, 21, 19, 22, 23, that is all.
Mrs. Kennedy: The whole Consent Agenda!
Mr. Plummer: I also want to pull number 2.
Mr. Martin Fine: Mr. Mayor, what does the term mean, pull? Does that mean to
hear it?
Mr. Plummer: Pull for discussion.
Mrs. Kennedy: Hear it for discussion.
Mr. Dawkins: Pull it, Marty, so we can discuss it.
Mayor Suarez: Which one are you interested in, Marty?
Mr. Fine. 21.
Mrs. Kennedy: I pull that.
Mayor Suarez: OK, it has been pulled. Ken, speak now, or forever hold your
peace.
Mr. Ken Nelson: Number 29 and number 30, I need to ask a question of the
Manager.
Mr. Dawkins: 29 and 30?
Mayor Suarez: Those have been pulled. OK, with the exception of items 2, 3,
which has been withdrawn... what are you doing back up here?
Mr. Nelson: Make it 30 and 31, I am sorry.
Mr. Dawkins: Are you a slow learner?
Mayor Suarez: With the exception of 2, item 3, which has been withdrawn,
items 7, 8, 10, 11, 19, 21, 22, 23, 26, 30 and 31, I will entertain a vote,
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but before entertaining a vote on those items comprising the Consent Agenda,
would ask that anyone that would like to be heard on any of those items,
please step forward, for or against. Let the record reflect that no one has.
Mr. Plummer: So moved.
Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded. Did you get the second?
Mrs. Kennedy: Yes.
Mayor Suarez: OK, call the roll.
THE FOLLOWING RESOLUTIONS WERE INTRODUCED BY
COMMISSIONER PLUMMER, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KENNEDY
AND WERE PASSED AND ADOPTED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
7.1 ACCEPT BID: CENTURY RAIN AID FOR 8 IRRIGATION MICRO PROCESSOR DRIVEN
FIELD CONTROLLERS.
RESOLUTION NO. 87-413
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BID OF CENTURY RAIN AID
FOR FURNISHING EIGHT (8) IRRIGATION MICRO PROCESSOR
DRIVEN FIELD CONTROLLERS AND RELATED EQUIPMENT TO
THE DEPARTMENT OF PARKS, RECREATION AND PUBLIC
FACILITIES AT A TOTAL PROPOSED COST OF $11,40.00;
ALLOCATING FUNDS THEREFOR FROM THE 1986-87 GOLF
_ COURSE ENTERPRISE FUND, MIAMI SPRINGS ACCOUNT CODE
NUMBERS 6490901-850 (50%) 490902-850 (50%);
AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO INSTRUCT THE CHIEF
PROCUREMENT OFFICER TO ISSUE A PURCHASE ORDER FOR
THIS EQUIPMENT.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and
on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
7.2 ACCEPT BID: E.V.F. INC. FOR REFURBISHMENT OF SEVEN EXISTING FIRE RESCUE
AMBULANCE VEHICLES.
RESOLUTION NO. 87-414
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BID OF E.V.F. INC. FOR
FURNISHING COMPLETE REFURBISHMENT OF SEVEN EXISTING
FIRE RESCUE AMBULANCE VEHICLES AND RELATED SPARE
1 AUTOMOTIVE PARTS TO THE DEPARTMENT OF FIRE, RESCUE
AND INSPECTION SERVICES AT A TOTAL PROPOSED COST OF
$392,377.00; ALLOCATING FUNDS THEREFOR FROM THE 1981
FIRE BOND ACCOUNT CODE #313219-289401-670;
AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO INSTRUCT THE CHIEF
I PROCUREMENT OFFICER TO ISSUE A PURCHASE ORDER FOR
THIS SERVICE.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and
on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
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7.3 ACCEPT BID: TCCA PAINTING AND LAWN MAINTENANCE CO. FOR GROUNDS
MAINTENANCE AT FIRE/RESCUE TRAINING CENTER.
RESOLUTION NO. 87-415
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BID OF TCCA PAINTING AND
LAWN MAINTENANCE CO. FOR FURNISHING GROUNDS
MAINTENANCE SERVICES AT THE FIRE/RESCUE TRAINING
CENTER ON A CONTRACT BASIS FOR ONE (1) YEAR
RENEWABLE ANNUALLY FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF GENERAL
SERVICES ADMINISTRATION AT A TOTAL PROPOSED COST OF
$4,800.00; ALLOCATING FUNDS THEREFOR FROM THE 1986-
87 PROPERTY MAINTENANCE DIVISION FUNDS ACCOUNT CODE
NUMBER 421001-340; AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO
INSTRUCT THE CHIEF PROCUREMENT OFFICER TO ISSUE A
PURCHASE ORDER FOR THIS SERVICE.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and
on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
7.4 ACCEPT PROPOSAL OF MCF CORPORATION FOR LEASE OF OFFICE SPACE (3000
AVIATION AVENUE)
RESOLUTION NO. 87-416
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING IN PRINCIPLE, THE PROPOSAL OF
MCF CORPORATION, A MINORITY COMPANY, FOR THE LEASE
OF 25,630 SQUARE FEET OF OFFICE SPACE, SITUATED AT
3000 AVIATION AVENUE IN COCONUT GROVE IN RESPONSE TO
REQUEST FOR BIDS #86-87/072; AUTHORIZING AND
DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO NEGOTIATE A LEASE
AGREEMENT; IN A FORM ACCEPTABLE TO THE CITY
ATTORNEY; AND FURTHER DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO
PRESENT A NEGOTIATED LEASE AGREEMENT AS SOON AS
PRACTICABLE FOR FINAL CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL BY
THE CITY COMMISSION PRIOR TO THE EXECUTION OF SAID
CONTRACT.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and
on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
7.5 INCREASE CONTRACT WITH OCEAN BAY CONSTRUCTION FOR FORT DALLAS PARK PLAZA
PHASE II.
RESOLUTION NO. 87-417 j
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING AN INCREASE IN THE CONTRACT
AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $9,990 IN THE JANUARY 21, 1987
CONTRACT BETWEEN THE CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA AND
OCEAN BAY CONSTRUCTION, INC. FOR THE FORT DALLAS
PARK PLAZA - PHASE II CIP PROJECT NO. 331035, WITH
FUNDS THEREFOR ALREADY PROVIDED FOR THE PROJECT.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and
on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
7.6 ACCEPT RENTAL REHABILITATION PROGRAM GRANT TO INCREASE THE SUPPLY OF
AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
RESOLUTION NO. 87-418
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ACCEPT
A RENTAL REHABILITATION PROGRAM GRANT FROM THE U.S.
DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT (HUD)
FOR $924,000 TO INCREASE THE SUPPLY OF AFFORDABLE,
STANDARD HOUSING FOR LOWER INCOME FAMILIES; AND
FURTHER AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO SUBMIT THE
PROGRAM DESCRIPTION TO THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF
HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT FOR APPROVAL.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and
on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
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7.7
7.8
ACCEPT COMPLETED WORK: WILLIAMS PAVING COMPANY FOR SILVEK BLUFF STORM
SEWER PROJECT.
RESOLUTION NO. 87-419
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE COMPLETED WORK OF
WILLIAMS PAVING COMPANY, INC. AT A TOTAL COST OF
$715,793.26 FOR SILVER BLUFF STORM SEWER PROJECT
(BIDS A&B) C.I.P. PROJECT NO. 352185 AND AUTHORIZING
A FINAL PAYMENT OF $103,466.68.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and
on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
ACCEPT COMPLETED WORK: EBSARY FOUNDATION COMPANY FOR DINNER KEY MARINA -
BOAT RAMP.
RESOLUTION NO. 87-420
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE COMPLETED WORK OF EBSARY
FOUNDATION COMPANY AT A TOTAL COST OF $116,725.00
FOR DINNER KEY MARINA - BOAT RAMP - 1986 C.I.P.
PROJECT NO. 414005 AND AUTHORIZING A FINAL PAYMENT
OF $11,672.50.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and
on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
7.9 ACCEPT COMPLETED WORK: B.K. MARINE CONSTRUCTION INC. FOR WAINWRIGHT PARK
BULKHEAD REPAIRS 1985.
RESOLUTION NO. 87-421
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE COMPLETED WORK OF B.K.
MARINE CONSTRUCTION, INC., AT A TOTAL COST OF
$31,150.00 FOR WAINWRIGHT PARK BULKHEAD REPAIRS -
1985 (SECOND BIDDING) C.I.P. PROJECT NO. 331049 AND
AUTHORIZING A FINAL PAYMENT OF $3,115.00.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and
on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
7.10 ORDERING SILVER BLUFF HIGHWAY IMPROVEMENT
RESOLUTION NO. 87-422
I A RESOLUTION ORDERING SILVER BLUFF HIGHWAY
IMPROVEMENT H-4527 AND DESIGNATING THE PROPERTY
AGAINST WHICH SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS SHALL BE MADE FOR
A PORTION OF THE COST THEREOF AS SILVER BLUFF
HIGHWAY IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT H-4527.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and
on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
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7.11 CREATE PANEL OF SEVEN NATIONAL EXPERTS TO INVESTIGATE CHARGES OF
DISCRIMINATION IN FIRE DEPARTMENT.
RESOLUTION NO. 87-423
A RESOLUTION CREATING AN INDEPENDENT PANEL OF SEVEN
NATIONAL EXPERTS TO INVESTIGATE CHARGES OF
DISCRIMINATION IN THE CITY OF MIAMI FIRE, RESCUE AND
INSPECTION SERVICES DEPARTMENT NOT LIMITED TO
SELECTION, TRAINING, PROMOTION, DISCIPLINE,
HARASSMENT; PRESCRIBING FUNCTIONS, DUTIES,
j COMPOSITION, ORGANIZATION, PROCEDURES, AUTHORITY,
POWERS, AND RESPONSIBILITY, APPOINTING PANEL
MEMBERS; FURTHER ALLOCATING FUNDS IN SUPPORT OF SAID
PANEL NOT TO EXCEED $60,000 FROM SPECIAL PROGRAMS
AND ACCOUNTS CONTINGENT ACCOUNT.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and
on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
7.12 AUTHORIZE REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL FOR SALE OF WATSON BUILDING (See label
#15, #34)
RESOLUTION NO. 87-424
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE OF A REQUEST
FOR PROPOSAL, IN A FORM ACCEPTABLE TO THE CITY
ATTORNEY, FOR THE SALE OF THE WATSON BUILDING,
LOCATED AT 65 SW FIRST STREET.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and
on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
(NOTE FOR THE RECORD: R-87-424 WAS LATER RECONSIDERED BY M-87-444. The final
action of the City Commission on this issue is reflected by R-87-435.)
7.13 ACCEPT AND APPROVE COMPREHENSIVE ANNUAL REPORT FOR FISCAL YEAR 1986.
RESOLUTION NO. 87-425
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING, APPROVING AND ADOPTING THE
CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA, COMPREHENSIVE ANNUAL REPORT
FOR THE FISCAL YEAR ENDED SEPTEMBER 30, 1986 AS
REQUIRED BY FLORIDA LAW.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and
on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
7.14 NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING FOR ACCEPTANCE OF COMPLETED CONSTRUCTION OF
LANZO CONSTRUCTION CO. FOR CITYWIDE SANITARY SEWER IMPROVEMENT.
RESOLUTION NO. 87-426
A RESOLUTION DIRECTING THE CITY CLERK TO PUBLISH A
NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING FOR OBJECTIONS TO THE
ACCEPTANCE BY THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE COMPLETED
CONSTRUCTION BY LANZO CONSTRUCTION CO. OF CITYWIDE
SANITARY SEWER IMPROVEMENT-N.W. 47 AVENUE IN
CITYWIDE SANITARY SEWER IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT-N.W. 47
AVENUE - SR-5521 (CENTERLINE SEWER).
(here follows body of resolution, omitted here and
on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
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7.15 ACCEPT PLAT: CENTRAL - BAY VIEW.
RESOLUTION NO. 87-427
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE PLAT ENTITLED CENTRAL -
BAY VIEW, A SUBDIVISION IN THE CITY OF MIAMI; AND
ACCEPTING THE DEDICATIONS SHOWN ON SAID PLAT; AND
AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER AND CITY
CLERK TO EXECUTE THE PLANT AND PROVIDING FOR THE
RECORDATION OF SAID PLAT IN THE PUBLIC RECORDS OF
DADE COUNTY, FLORIDA.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and
on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
7.16 CONFIRM INDIVIDUALS SELECTED BY BARGAINING REPRESENTATIVES AS MEMBERS OF
AFFIRMATIVE ACTION ADVISORY BOARD.
RESOLUTION NO. 87-428
A RESOLUTION CONFIRMING THE SELECTION OF INDIVIDUALS
BY CERTAIN BARGAINING REPRESENTATIVES OF CITY
EMPLOYEES AND RECOGNIZING SAID INDIVIDUALS AS
MEMBERS OF THE CITY OF MIAMI AFFIRMATIVE ACTION
ADVISORY BOARD.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and
on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
7.17 CLOSE STREETS; ALCOHOL PERMIT; PEDDLERS AREA FOR MIAMI/BAHAMAS GOOMBAY
FESTIVAL.
RESOLUTION NO. 87-429
A RESOLUTION CONCERNING THE 1987 MIAMI/BAHAMAS
GOOMBAY FESTIVAL TO BE HELD JUNE 5, 6, AND 7, 1987,
PROVIDING FOR THE CLOSURE OF DESIGNATED STREETS
THROUGH VEHICULAR TRAFFIC; ESTABLISHING A PEDESTRIAN
MALL SUBJECT TO THE ISSUANCE OF PERMITS BY THE
DEPARTMENTS OF POLICE AND FIRE, RESCUE AND
INSPECTION SERVICES; AUTHORIZING A TWO-DAY PERMIT TO
SELL BEER AND WINE IN CONNECTION WITH SAID EVENT
SUBJECT TO THE ISSUANCE OF ALL PERMITS REQUIRED BY
LAW; FURTHER ESTABLISHING AN A%EA PROHIBITED TO
RETAIL PEDDLERS DURING THE PERIOD OF THE EVENT;
CONDITIONED UPON THE REQUIREMENT THAT THE CITY WILL
BE INSURED AGAINST ANY POTENTIAL LIABILITY AND UPON
ORGANIZERS PAYING FOR ALL NECESSARY COSTS OF CITY
SERVICES ASSOCIATED WITH SAID EVENT BEYOND THE COSTS
ALLOCATED BY RESOLUTION #86-1007 ADOPTED DECEMBER
11, 1986.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and
on file in the Office if the City Clerk.)
8. WISH A SPEEDY RECOVER: MARIA deJESUS BLANCO FROM SURGERY.
Mayor Suarez: Before we take individuals items would the children (or kids, I
should say, they are not really children anymore) from Palm Springs, step up
here, right in front of the models so we can take a quick picture.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, while we are waiting for them to come up and pose,
I'd like to put on the record this Commission's expression - our Clerk Matty
is out of town today, attending her mother who is in surgery, and I think it
would be appropriate that we send our expression of God's speed to her mother,
and express it in a formal resolution, I so move.
Mrs. Kennedy: Second.
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Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded. Any discussion? Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 87-430
A RESOLUTION EXPRESSING THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION'S
WISH FOR A SPEEDY RECOVERY BY MARIA deJESUS BLANCO
FROM HER RECENT SURGERY.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Kennedy, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
i Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
j Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES:
ABSENT:
None.
None.
9. DEFER CONSIDERATION OF BID ACCEPTANCE OF SIGNS UNLIMITED INC. FOR
CONSTRUCTION SIGNS FOR OVERTOWN/PARK WEST REDEVELOPMENT PROJECT.
Mayor Suarez: Agenda item 1. Mr. Vice -Mayor must stay for item 2.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Manager, under your austerity program, I notice that signs
in Overtown are costing about $3,000 a piece. I'd like to know what kind of
signs that you are putting up? I assume they are construction signs.
Mr. Matthew Schwartz: All right, these are... the signs are $2,500 each.
Mr. Plummer: Well, OK.
Mr. Schwartz: They are 18 feet high. These are... in the Commission package
is a rendering of the signs. These are distinctive signs establishing that
S.E. Overtowni/Park West area to create as part of the marketing program for
the area.
Mr. Plummer: Can we do it in-house?
Mr. Schwartz: The City... these are rather complicated signs. We don't have
the staff to do it in - house.
Mr. Plummer: Where is the money coming from?
Mr. Schwartz: The money is coming from the H.U.D. Section 108 loan, which
would be repaid with the tax increment...
Mr.. Dawkins: Could we put some unemployed people, could we put some
unemployed sign painters, who are unemployed, to work to do it?
INAUDIBLE BACKGROUND COMMENTS NOT ENTERED INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD.
Mr. Plummer: No, I am just thinking $35,000 is about the price of one unit.
Mr. Schwartz: I believe what we possibly could do is probably ask the
developers to pick up a portion of this in the blocks that they should be
starting construction during the next few months.
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f Mr. Dawkins: No, Mark, it is not a price... I mean, my problem, I don't know
about the rest of you, is not who picks up the cost, it is just to damn much
to pay for a sign!
Mr. Plummer: I just, you know, I can't...!
Mr. Dawkins: That's the problem. I don't care who we stick with it, it is too
much! See, so asking the developer to pick it up...
Mr. Plummer: Especially if you are sticking me!
Mr. Dawkins: I don't know!
Mr. Plummer: Why don't you go back and ask the developers to pick up the cost
of that, because they are going to be advertising on it.
Mr. Schwartz: On practically half the signs, it would be on sites that would
be under construction during the next few months. The other blocks will be a
number of years before construction starts, so if we could...
Mr. Plummer: Well, I think you ought to take those four sites and get the
developer to pick up the costs, and the rest of them, I move that this item be
deferred to a later date.
Mr. Dawkins: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded, call the roll.
THEREUPON, the City Commission on motion duly
made by Commissioner Plummer and seconded by
Commissioner Dawkins, deferred consideration of
the above matter by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
10. UNSERVICEABLE POLICE UNIFORMS TO BE DONATED TO HAITI.
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Mayor Suarez: Agenda item 7.
Mrs. Kennedy: I pulled 7 out, because I think basically the concept is a
great idea, however, there is some concern that these uniforms can fall in the
wrong hands, and Mr. Manager, I'd like to see if there is any way that we can
put some kind of an indelible mark...
Mr. Plummer: Dye them!
Mrs. Kennedy: Mr. Manager... OK, on item 7 about the police uniforms,
donating them to churches or... number 7, police uniforms, OK. There is some
concern that they can fall into the wrong hands. I am suggesting that perhaps
you can discolor them or mark them with some kind of indelible mark so they
can be easily identifiable.
Mr. Dawkins: I move that...
Mrs. Kennedy: That's what I was going to... OK.
Mr. Dawkins: I ►nova: that you take all these uniforms, box them up, take them
to Air Haiti, have the consul come to Air Haiti and ship them to Haiti, and
have the people over them use them.
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Mayor Suarez: So moved.
Mr. Plummer: Charity starts at home.
Mrs. Kennedy: Yes.
Mr. Plummer: We got people here that need clothing. Now, you know, I
understand what you are saying, but it would seem... first of all, I've got to
tell you this comes with a recommendation of the Administration, and I assume
the Chief.
Mayor Suarez: I second the motion.
Mr. Plummer: OK.
Mr. Dawkins: Under discussion.
Mr. Plummer: Let me ask another question. Mr. Manager, in the past, when
these uniforms were declared surplus, what was done with them?
Mr. Odio: I believe they were destroyed. That is what I think.
Mr. Plummer: And how many garments are we talking about?
Mr. Odio: I have no idea.
Mr. Dawkins: You see, J. L., the only problem I've got with this is, when it
comes to used ambulances, you all send them to South America. When it comes
to used fire trucks, you all send them to South America. When it comes to
used something else, you send it someplace else, and now when I make a
recommendation that you take a poor little Black country like Haiti and send
some lousy worn out uniforms to - "Oh God, charity starts at home." Come on,
give me a break.
Mr. Plummer: You said enough. Call the roll.
Mr. Dawkins: Thank you.
Mr. Plummer: Quit picking on me. Did you register as a lobbyist?
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Dawkins, who moved
its adoption:
MOTION NO. 87-431
A MOTION AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO
TAKE ALL UNSERVICEABLE POLICE UNIFORMS WHICH HAVE BEEN
STRIPPED OF MIAMI POLICE DEPARTMENT IDENTIFICATION TO
AIR HAITI; FURTHER INSTRUCTING THE CITY MANAGER TO
OBTAIN THE ASSISTANCE OF THE HAITIAN CONSUL FOR THE
PURPOSE OF SENDING SAID CLOTHING TO THE NEEDY PEOPLE
IN HAITI; PROVIDED THAT SAID UNIFORMS ARE FIRST
OFFERED TO THE PARTICIPATING CITIES IN THE SISTER
CITIES PROGRAM.
Upon being seconded by Mayor Suarez, the motion was passed and adopted
by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
Mr. Plummer: Just for the record, Mr. Mayor, I got a letter from the F.O.P.,
directed straight at me. I don't know if others have received it.
Mr. Dawkins: Congratulations.
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(NOTE FOR THE RECORD: CITY ATTORNEY LUCIA DOUGHERTY ENTERED THE MEETING AT
10:24 A.M.)
Mr. Plummer: But, I just want the F.O.P. to realize that when I, in a
newspaper article made a comment about it, I was with the full impression that
the Administration and the Police Chief had recommended this as a good thing,
so it was not my idea, it was the fact that it came presented on an agenda,
recommended, and that's why I thought it was a good thing, so I just want that
for the record.
Mr. Odio: It is true, Commissioner, the Chief thinks it is a good thing.
Mr. Plummer: OK, I just want to set the record clear.
Mr. Ken Nelson: Just for the record, Commissioner, I sent the same letter to
every Commissioner and the Mayor. It was just a standard letter, and it
wasn't directed to any Commissioner in particular.
Mr. Plummer: OK.
Mr. Carollo: Excuse me, if I may, I'd like to bring that motion up for a
second.
Mayor Suarez: Commissioner.
Mr. Carollo: I think we are running into a problem that before we could give
things of this nature, I think, don't we have to offer that to our Sister
Cities, first?
Mr. Plummer: Give them to Haiti.
Mayor Suarez: I guess, unless the Commission...
Mr. Plummer: Excuse me?
Mr. Carollo: Don't we have to make an offer to our Sister Cities?
Mr. Dawkins: Yes, sure.
Mr. Plummer: Any surplus equipment, that is correct.
Mayor Suarez: How can that...
Mr. Dawkins: No problem.
Mr. Carollo: Yes, I think that...
Mayor Suarez: Wait, can that not be overwritten by Commission action?
Mr. Plummer: Sure.
Mr. Carollo: Well, my whole question is that if we have always gone under
that premise, that we would offer whatever we have as surplus to our Sister
Cities, which some might be in as much need as Haiti, some might not...
Mayor Suarez: Let me ask a question, Commissioner. Let me ask a question.
Do we have a Sister City relationship in any city in Haiti?
Mr. Plummer: No.
Mr. Dawkins: We will though, after this meeting.
Mayor Suarez: Do you want to propose...
Mr. Dawkins: No, that is all right. Hold it, lat this go! Don't worry about
this.
Mr. Plummer: Let me clarify...
Mr. Carollo: It depends...
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Mr. Dawkins: Don't worry, let this go, OK? Yes, sure.
Mr. Carollo: Well, you are not talking about a heck of a lot of money,
Miller. The only thing I don't want to get into is, any surplus that we are
giving in different countries...
Mr. Dawkins: No, Joe, you don't want the Miami Herald to think that you are
prejudiced against Sister Cities, I agree with you.
Mr. Carollo: This has got nothing to do with the Herald. And as far as our
friends and allies, and Haiti is, even though they are not Sister Cities, I am
all for it. I am just not going to go along with the bleeding heart liberals.
Mr. Dawkins: Only thing I am going to make sure is that when we see a... wait
a minute, I am going to wait until your motion passes, I got one, go ahead.
Mr. Carollo: I have no motion, Miller. I make...
Mr. Dawkins: All right, under discussion, if this is going to be the policy,
from now on, then before we give away anything, see, I don't care how badly it
is needed in any place, then you must search the total Sister City program to
see who don't want it, and make it available.
Mr. Carollo: I'm saying from the cities that we are Sister Cities with.
Mr. Dawkins: OK, now I have no problem with it as long as we got a uniform
policy.
Mr. Carollo: Well, that is what I thought we had, Miller, is why I am
bringing it up.
Mr. Plummer: Miller, excuse me, there is such a uniform policy. May I
suggest, Mr. Mayor...
Mayor Suarez: Yes, Mr. Vice -Mayor.
Mr. Plummer:... since I am the liaison to the Sister City program, that in the
event that there is no Sister City requesting, then this matter then be as
Commissioner Dawkins said, to Haiti.
Mr. Dawkins: Yes.
Mr. Carollo: OK, I have no problem, Miller, if you want to start making the
process of making Miami Sister City to one of the cities in Haiti. Just make
sure that Mr. Hiaasen won't get upset, that you could check it with the State
Department, so you can find out what government they want to put in power this
year or next month, you know, so we could be in agreement.
Mr. Dawkins: Well, do you think we have to get approval before you and I
could go down to Haiti to make it a Sister City? We would have to get
approval?
Mr. Carollo: Well, I don't know, you know, they are not a Communist nation,
so we might have to. If they were a Communist nation then we would get all
the blessings from the Herald and their little sister, Pravda.
Mr. Dawkins: OK, no problem. OK.
Mayor Suarez: We have already voted on it, and there is no motion to
reconsider so, item 10.
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11 . AUTHORIZE DONATION OF BOSTON WHALER VESSEL (BOAT) FROM PAUL KEMPNER FOR
USE BY POLICE DEPARTMENT.
Mr. Dawkins: No, item 8, I pulled item 8.
Mayor Suarez: I'm sorry, item 8.
Mr. Dawkins: Mr. Manager, how much will it cost to make this boat
serviceable?
Mr. Odio: I'll have to find out for you, Commissioner. Leslie, do you have
that figure on the boat, how much it costs?
Mrs. Kennedy: Who is going to pay for the repairs of the boat?
Mr. Dawkins: We are.
Mr. Odio: Oh, we do.
Mrs. Kennedy: We are?
Mr. Dawkins: But, I want to know, you know, is it worth it?
Mr. Odio: We have not seen the boat at this time, so...
Mayor Suarez: Do you want to just defer this item until you figure out
whether it is worth accepting the boat?
Mr. Odio: Why don't we accept it and if it is too much, we don't fix it, we
just junk it?
Mayor Suarez: Either way.
Mr. Carollo: OK, well, fine, we can accept it. I don't know what we could do
with an 11.5 foot boat. It is kind of small, but...
Mr. Odio: Well, we can use it around the...
Mr. Carollo: Maybe it can be used for rowing and patrolling...
Mrs. Kennedy: OK, I move to accept it....
Mr. Carollo: ... the Marine Stadium area.
Mayor Suarez: Is it 11.5 feet?
Mrs. Kennedy: OK, I move to accept it and then, play it by ear.
Mr. Carollo: I second the motion.
Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded. Under discussion, this boat is 11.5 feet?
Mr. Odio: Eleven and one-half feet Boston Whaler. They are very good boats.
They are very good boats. Now, if it...
Mayor Suarez: Eleven and one-half foot boat, I mean, just the paperwork is
going to be...
Mr. Odio: No, we just take this boat. This boat, if new, costs about $7,000
to $8,000.
Mr. Dawkins: How you are you spending to repair it?
Mr. Odio: We won't know until we get the boat in, and if it costs too much...
Mr. Dawkins: So, we are going to take something from somebody, we don't know
how much it costs to repair it...
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Mayor Suarez: Subject to the...
Mr. Dawkins: We might be able to buy a new one for the price you are going to
try to repair it at.
Mr. Odio: No, we won't fix it if it is not worth it, Commissioner, and just
junk it.
Mr. Dawkins: Well, why accept it, then?
Mayor Suarez: We are giving authority to the City Manager to determine
whether it is worth accepting it or not.
Mr. Dawkins: OK, thank you.
Mayor Suarez: OK, call the roll on that.
Mr. Dawkins: Who made...
Mrs. Kennedy: I did.
Mayor Suarez: It was moved and seconded, call the roll.
Mr. Carollo: OK, now before we vote on it, I have another question.
Mr. Dawkins:
Mayor Suarez:
Go ahead.
Commissioner.
Mr. Carollo: Mr. Manager, what is exactly, the duties that we have given our
Marine Patrol, and since I was the one that originally brought up all these
motions to give additional boats to the Marine Patrol, I'd like to find out,
what is exactly the duties that were given them, 1,3cause I am receiving
information from different constituencies that our Marine Patrol, and I hope
they are wrong and it is not the City Marine Patrol, and maybe the State
Marine Patrol, are hanging around the different City docks, and when fishermen
come back, they are demanding to inspect the boats and seeing what kind of
fish they caught, and measuring the size of the fish. Yes, to make sure that
they...
Mr. Odio: I think they are looking for... they are not...
Mayor Suarez: It sounds like they are trying to enforce State laws on you
know, what fish, and that doesn't sound like what we want them to be doing all
the time.
Mr. Carollo: Exactly. Now, if this is accurate, this is not why I made those
resolutions to create a Marine Patrol and give them several boats.
Mr. Odio: It doesn't sound right.
Mr. Carollo: Well, it doesn't sound right to me, and that is why I want to
bring it up in the open.
Mr. Odio: I will have a report for you, Commissioner, before the day is over.
Mayor Suarez: The jurisdiction of our Marine Patrol is an interesting
question though...
Mr. Carollo: Have they been doing this, you know, or...?
Mr. Odio: Is the Chief here?
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: Yes, sir.
Chief Dickson: I haven't had any reports on Marine Patrol measuring fish, or
being involved in fishing games. This is news. That would not be one of
their responsibilities to do that. If they did happen, it is probably an
individual act. I am sure that Marine Patrol, one of their objectives, if we
look at the objectives, this does not show to be an objective of the Marine
Patrol, but if...
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Mayor Suarez: Could it have been a subterfuge to try to determine if there
were drugs or something, Chief? Is that a possibility?
Chief Dickson: That is highly possible. It would not be against the law if
they did it. If they did that, it would not be against the law, but I don't
see that as an objective for it.
Mr. Carollo: My question is this, Chief. What I was told by some
constituents that have called us, was that... I am talking about the little
15, 16 foot boats, 18 foot boats, you know, just regular citizens that are
going out there, that nobody could think that a little old boat with a 25, 30
horsepower engine, that they are going to be running drugs out there. That,
around 5:00 o'clock or so, some of our Marine Patrol boats have been going
over to the City docks or County docks around Key Biscayne, and have been
stopping the boaters, wanting to see what they have inside the boats, and then
inspecting and measuring the fish they caught, and those that might have cut
the fish's head off, you know, out in the water, and scaled them, telling them
they can't do that because then they can't tell the size of the fish. Now, I
hope they made a mistake, and maybe that was Marine Patrol from the State that
was doing that. I guess that would fall certainly under this jurisdiction, but
I would hate to see, if this information is accurate, you know, our Marine
Patrol people, when we have so many other things that we should be involved
with doing this sort of thing.
Mr. Dawkins: Chief, I would think that would fall under the fish and marine
duties if it were being done, wouldn't it?
Chief Dickson: Yes, that would be one of their objectives to do that.
Mr. Dawkins: I think maybe they are doing it and we are getting blamed for
it, Chief. I think that would be an angle to look at it from.
Chief Dickson: I'll find out before the end of the Commission today. I'll
find out.
Mayor Suarez: Thank you, Chief.
Mr. Carollo: Thank you, Chief.
Mayor Suarez: OK, we have a motion and a second on item 8, do we not?
Mr. Dawkins: Yes.
Mayor Suarez: Any further questions? Discussion? Call the roll.
Mr. Plummer: What is the motion?
Mrs. Kennedy: To approve it.
Mr. Plummer: Approve?
Mayor Suarez: Subject to the City Manager determining that it is worth it...
Mr. Dawkins: That it is worth it.
Mrs. Kennedy: To accept it then we will see what we do.
Mayor Suarez: ... to take this boat, that it is not going to cost us more than
the boat is worth. Call the roll.
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The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Kennedy, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 87-432
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ACCEPT
THE DONATION AT NO COST TO THE CITY OF' AN 11.8 FOOT
BOSTON WHALER VESSEL FROM MR. PAUL KEMPNER, PRESIDENT
OF KEMPNER CORPORATION, FOR USE BY THE MIAh1I POLICE
DEPARTMENT MARINE PATROL.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Carollo, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
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12. ACCEPT PROPOSAL OF AMERIFIRST DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION FOR LEASE OF OFFICE
SPACE DOWNTOWN.
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Mayor Suarez: Item 10.
Mr. Carollo: What item are we on?
Mr. Dawkins: Ten.
Mayor Suarez: Ten.
Mr. Carollo: Did we do 9 already, or not?
Mayor Suarez: Was that pulled, Commissioner? Or, did you want it pulled?
Mr. Carollo: I didn't pull nine, no.
Mayor Suarez: We voted on it as part of the Consent Agenda.
Mr. Carollo: OK, that was approved already then.
Mr. Dawkins: Yes, that is the one we just approved, the boat we just finished
talking about, the marine boats, Joe.
Mr. Carollo: Oh, all right. No, the marine boat is 8.
Mayor Suarez: That was 8.
Mr. Carollo: Yes.
Mayor Suarez: Nine was approved as part of the Consent Agenda.
Mr. Carollo: Nine was approved already, OK.
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! Mr. Carollo: OK, I see it, yes. When, we approved all the others as part of
1111 the Consent Agenda.
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Mayor Suarez: Right.
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Mr. Dawkins: Right.
Mr. Carollo: OK, so, right. Were any others in the Consent Agenda that were
pulled?
Mr. Dawkins: Yes, I pulled 11.
Mayor Suarez: 10, 11.
Mr. Plummer: Half of it, more than half.
Mayor Suarez: 19, 21, 22, 23, 26, 30 and 31, Commissioner.
Mr. Carollo: OK.
Ms. Elizabeth Joyce: Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Suarez: Yes.
Ms. Joyce: My name is Elizabeth Joyce, I am here on item number 26.
Mayor Suarez: I am sorry, I pulled that too. I pulled 26 myself.
Ms. Joyce: My mistake, I probably asked for that to be pulled. I am the
attorney for Mrs. Wolfe, and I was to speak in favor of the motion, in favor
of it.
Mayor Suarez: Well that is interesting. Does anybody nave any prooiems wiLn
going ahead and take...
Mr. Dawkins: Wait, you all pulled them. Let her sit down and wait until we
get to 26, that is all. I am not going to pay for her mistake.
Mayor Suarez: Item 10.
Mr. Robert Cambo: Good morning, my name is Robert Cambo, I am with Bush
Realty, 150 West Flagler Street. We are here to suggest today that the City's
interest would be best served if you directed the City Manager to negotiate
with the top three bidders versus the top bidder, and we also dispute that
AmeriFirst is the top bidder in this bid.
Mrs. Kennedy: Who are the other two bidders?
Mr. Cambo: My firm...
Mr. Al Armada: There were five bidders that were in fact, acceptable,
responsive and responsive bidders, there were five.
Mr. Dawkins: What is the rental per square foot?
Mr. Cambo: Excuse me?
Mr. Dawkins: What is the rental per square foot?
Mr. Cambo: His, or ours?
Mr. Armada: The rental per square foot that we are suggesting and we are
recommending is $13.54.
Mr. Dawkins: And you add parking, it comes to what?
Mr. Armada: That includes parking, sir.
Mr. Dawkins: $13.00 includes parking?
Mr. Armada: Yes, sir.
Mr. Cambo: No, it doesn't.
Mr. Armada: Yes it does.
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Mr. Dawkins: No, no, hold it. You say it does, he says it doesn't. The only
contract you are signing, is the one that has it. I don't want to get in an
argument. Don't get your blood pressure up, that is no problem, OK? Go
ahead, Mr. Manager, with your recommendations.
Mr. Odio: We are recommending the lowest bidder.
Mr. Cambo: As you see my letter, we suggested
Mr. Dawkins: Sir, we are only going to accept the one that has parking. Now,
if yours doesn't have parking, and you just told us you are not the lowest
bidder, then we will go to the next one. It isn't no problem.
Mr. Cambo: We do have parking.
Mr. Dawkins: Yes, but, no, no. Included in the $13.00?
Mr. Cambo: He has 34 spaces free, and 29 spaces at $65 a month, which is not
in that $13.52 rate.
Mr. Armada: Yes, it is. I come telling you that $13.54 in the bid
include 34 parking spaces free, that AmeriFirst is offering for us. OK, the
original bid, without the parking, Commissioner, was $11.72, OK?... $11.72.
When you add on to that the additional parking, OK, that we would need, it
comes to $13.54. I have it here, and I have worked on this back and forth,
and I have talked to Mr. Cambo on this matter a number of times.
Mr. Odio: I just happened to have worked on the budget for the Law Department
and...
Mr. Dawkins: You are recommending what he said, right?
Mr. Odio: Commissioner, I am recommending the lowest bid, yes, sir.
Mayor Suarez: Let me ask you a question about the procedure followed.
Mr. Armada: Yes, sir.
Mayor Suarez: We have got five responsive bidders, and then how do you
proceed from that point forward, in this kind of a bid?
Mr. Armada: Well, from that point forward, what I did was, and I analyzed
each of the bids, and I tried to come up with... you know, putting in there
all the hidden costs that could possibly be, OK, for example, they usually
give you a square footage and they do not include parking, but parking is an
expense that we have to incur, so we have to come down, OK, and put that into
a formula and compare it per square f-et. OK, that is what we have done here,
and there is no question that bid that AmeriFirst submitted to us is by
far the lowest. We had very good bids. We had five...
Mayor Suarez: You don't really negotiate with...
Mr. Armada: Now we are going to negotiate with AmeriFirst. The item that is
here before you is authority...
Mr. Dawkins: Negotiate with the lowest bidder.
Mayor Suarez: Right, you only negotiate with the lowest bidder, then.
Mr. Armada: That is correct.
Mayor Suarez: After you determine which is the lowest bidder, OK, and they
have a dispute as whether AmeriFirst is in fact the lowest bidder.
Mr. Armada: Well, I have talked to...
Mr. Odio: We are coming here to ask permission to negotiate with the lowest
bidder.
Mayor Suarez: With whom we deem to be the lowest bidder.
Mr. Odio:
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Mayor Suarez: OK, why do you not think that AmeriFirst is the lowest bidder?
Do you want to just complete your argument briefly?
Mr. Cambo: Yes, the City informed me that the 8,900 square feet, which is
offered in the second building, that the City Off -Street Parking Authority had
decided that that wasn't going to be leased for another year, so our argument
was 16,000 feet against 16,000 feet, we were cheaper. Now, if that is
changed, I may be in error.
Mr. Odio: That has changed. We went out for a bid on 25,000 square feet, and
all we could do is get the lowest square footage price, plus parking, and
whatever the net cost to the City was, and that is all I can recommend.
Mayor Suarez: Why does Mr. Cambo's letter say, the City of Miami is
interested in leasing 20,000 to 25,000 square feet? Did we go out on a
flexible request like that?
Mr. Armada: Yes, we have to, because we for sure don't know exactly how many
square feet we are going to have exactly either, so we go from 20,000 to
25,000; however, Mr. Mayor, I will say that even what lie is saying in terms of
the 16,000, still the best bid, OK, comes out to being AmeriFirst's bid, and I
have all the work, the spread sheet on that as well.
Mayor Suarez: You disagree with that?
Mr. Cambo: Yes, as you see ....
Mr. Armada: I have worked the figures with Mr. Cambo personally in my office,
twice.
Mayor Suarez: Obviously it hasn't led to him agreeing with you. Well, how
did...
Mr. Cambo: Well, the reason I disagree is that we filed an amendment to lower
our bid 50 cents, $11.50 a foot, and that is in the City's interest, and I
don't...
Mr. Odio: It 3s against the law to accept...
Mayor Suarez: Yes, that is what we cannot do at that point. Now, if the
negotiations with the lowest bidder failed, then we might begin
negotiations... are you the second lowest bidder? Is he the second lowest
bidder?
Mr. Armada: Yes, that is correct. For 16,000, he is the second lowest
bidder, and I always told them that if by any chance we would not able to
enter into an acceptable lease agreement, then obviously we have to go to the
second bidder, I mean, that has always been the...
Mr. Plummer: No, obviously, you come back to this Commission.
Mr. Armada: Well, yes, sir, of course, of course.
Mr. Plummer: Well, let me ask you, is parking included in the RFP?
Mr. Armada: Yes, I definitely added an item in there, and I said I want
everyone to tell me exactly how many free parking spaces you are going to give
me for the square footage that you are going to rent to me.
Mr. Plummer: That was in the RFP?
Mr. Armada: Yes, sir, it was.
Mr. Cambo: And per RFP, we responded at $20.00 a month in the City spaces,
which was then taken out by staff.
Mr. Dawkins: Let me ask one question. Did you offer to drop your bid by 50
cents?
Mr. Cambo: Yes, sir.
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Mr. Dawkins: That is illegal. I mean, why are you all discussing... I mean,
why are you all discussing with this man when lie is trying to get us to break
the law? I mean, what is this discussion here? Madam City Attorney, what is
the discussion?
Mr. Cambo: Mr. Dawkins.
Mr. Dawkins: No, no, now the City Attorney has to advise me, sir. Flow can
we, Madam City Attorney, sit here with a gentlemen who saw the bid and now
wants to drop his bid by 50 cents and go through this. Isn't that illegal?
Mrs. Dougherty: Yes, we are not permitted to consider that.
Mr. Dawkins: I mean, so, Mr. Mayor, this is out of order!
Mr. Cambo: At the beginning, the City had, in discussions...
Mr. Dawkins: Madam City Attorney, wouldn't this discussion be out of
order?... or improper?
Mrs. Dougherty: Well, we can't consider it. It is improper to consider a
lower bid.
Mr. Dawkins: If we have to go to that, if the first bidder is kicked out?
Mrs. Dougherty: Then we could consider him.
Mr. Dawkins: Then he can come back with his presentation, but we can't do
anything because he saw the bid and offered 50 cents lower.
Mayor Suarez: You can try to convince us that your bid was in fact lower,
but you can't get into the issue of what you offered to do by way of lowering
your bid, that is not something that we can consider, contemplate at this
point.
Mr. Cambo: I understand that, but in my letter of clarification, the staff
accepted my clarification to the amendment that said that there were no
operating expenses as additional rent...
Mayor Suarez: Are you saying that that was part of the clarification process?
Mr. Cambo: Right, because they also told us up front that they might desire
an antenna to be installed on top of the building.
Mr. Armada: That is not true! Roberto, I never told you that. That is...
Mr. Cambo: You never told me that? I have a great imagination then?
Mr. Armada: Yes, you certainly do!
Mr. Cambo: Thank you.
Mayor Suarez: Yes, I fail to see why a bid proposal for a lease of space is
that complicated that...
Mr. Armada: It isn't complicated, sir. I can show you what I've got here,
and I am willing to discuss it with everybody and twice I have discussed it
with Mr. Cambo and I have proven him...
Mayor Suarez: Was there a factor that we didn't know for sure what the
parking needs would be at any particular moment?
Mr. Armada: No, I knew them from the start.
Mayor Suarez: OK.
Mr. Cambo: They left it open, they didn't say how many spaces, what kind of
requirements they needed, it was very vague.
Mr. Armada: That is true. That is true, but I...
Mr. Plummer: I move item 10.
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Mayor Suarez: Didn't you at least...
Mr. Cambo: The whole business was very vague.
Mr. Dawkins: Second. Second.
Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded. Let me ask a question here. Did you at
least give a range of parking spaces that would be needed?
Mr. Armada: The only thing that I asked, the only thing that I asked in my
request for bid, was you have to tell me the number of parking spaces that you
are going to make available to the City included in the cost of 25,000 square
feet to lease. That is it. Now, some people said, "No, we don't want any
parking spaces." Some people said, "We are willing to..."
Mayor Suarez: Were those considered to be responsive?
Mr. Armada: Yes, they were willing to be responsive, because I didn't tell
them specifically, you have to got give me 100, or you have got to give me 35,
OK? But, once, it was...
Mayor Suarez: It would have been helpful to give a range. You gave a range
on the number of square feet.
Mr. Armada: No. No, because, you know, everyone has got to tell me how many
square feet, how many parking spaces they have out there to be able to offer
to me.
Mr. Dawkins: He is getting the best bid out of. the deal that he can, Mr.
Mayor, by not putting a specific number, and whoever wants to give him the
most, then he is ahead of the game. If he puts down 20, nobody is going to
give over 20. You follow me? - I mean, that is the way T look at it, Mr.
Mayor.
Mayor Suarez: Sounds like a very ambiguous proposal to me.
Mr. Dawkins: Well, we do that every day...
Mayor Suarez: OK, we have a motion and a second, any further discussion?
Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 87-433
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING IN PRINCIPLE, THE PROPOSAL OF
AMERIFIRST DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, FOR THE LEASE OF
25,000 SQUARE FEET OF OFFICE SPACE, SITUATED IN THE
DOWNTOWN AREA, IN RESPONSE TO REQUEST FOR BIDS NUMBER 86-
87/071; AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO
NEGOTIATE A LEASE AGREEMENT, IN A FORM ACCEPTABLE TO THE
CITY ATTORNEY; AND FURTHEP DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO
PRESENT A NEGOTIATED LEASE AGREEMENT AS SOON AS
PRACTICABLE FOR FINAL CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL BY THE
CITY COMMISSION PRIOR TO THE EXECUTION OF SAID CONTRACT.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here
and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Kennedy, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
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Mr. Dawkins: Thank you, sir.
13. AUTHORIZE EXECUTION OF POLITICAL SUBDIVISION PROGRAM AGREEMENT WITH STATE
OF FLORIDA.
Mayor Suarez: Item 11,
Mr. Dawkins: On page 7, item 11, Madam City Attorney, what does number 3,
liability, and it says: "Political subdivision shall be solely responsible in
carrying out the terms of this agreement, and to the extent authorized by law
shall hold the department harmless against all claims of whatever nature by
third parties arising out of the execution of this agreement." What does that
mean?
Mrs. Dougherty: That means if anybody sues the department as a result of
entering into this agreement, for any reason, that means that we are held
liable for that.
Mr. Dawkins: And you concur with this?
Mrs. Dougherty: I would recommend that we be held liable only for our
sovereign immunity limits.
Mr. Dawkins: I will move it with the necessary corrections offered by the
City Attorney.
Mayor Suarez: Moved, do we have a second?
Mrs. Kennedy: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Seconded. Any discussion?
Mrs. Kennedy: That is 11, right?
Mr. Dawkins: Eleven, yes.
Mayor Suarez: Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Dawkins, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION N0, 87-434
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A
"POLITICAL SUBDIVISION PROGRAM AGREEMENT", IN A FORM
ACCEPTABLE TO THE CITY ATTORNEY, WITH THE STATE OF
FLORIDA, DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY AFFAIRS.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here
and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Kennedy, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
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14. DEFER CONSIDERATION OF ALLOCATION FOR COMPLEX AND PROTRACTED
INVESTIGATIONS.
Mayor Suarez: Item 19.
Mr. Odio: Nineteen?
Mayor Suarez: You got it.
Mr. Odio: This is allocating $650,000 for a special crime suppression
activity, which involves protracted investigations to fund forfeiture fund
details.
Mr. Dawkins: What is... in our background, it says: "The purchase and rental
of necessary equipment and supplies." Purchase and rent what?
Mr. Odio: Excuse me, Commissioner, I couldn't hear. They were talking here.
Mr. Dawkins: OK, no problem. Under 19, you said this money will be used for
overtime, which we have already allocated I don't know how many dollars for
overtime.
Mr. Plummer: Are we are on 19?
Mr. Dawkins: Yes, we are.
Mr. Plummer: Hey, I want to tell you something, I want this deferred. You
are talking about $650,000, and you are only giving me four breakdowns for
$650,000. I think we need to recall that the $1,000,000 which this Commission
allocated for coke fight, and drugs, was used, as we found out, for overtime.
Now, we are talking about another $200,000. I'd like to see where our first
$1,000,000 went. $180,000 for forfeiture fund? What is the money going to be
used for? I don't think this is adequate backup material for $650,000, and
that is why I would ask that it be deferred until a...
Mr. Dawkins: Second it.
Mr. Odio: They can explain it Commissioner, right now, if you want to.
Mr. Dawkins: They can? OK, all right, I don't think so, but let him try.
Mr. Plummer: Item 19, Joe.
Mr. Joseph Linguera: Yes, the $650,000?
Mr. Plummer: Yes. What I am stating is, that this which we have as backup
material is not adequately telling us where the money is going, and I am
asking for a breakdown of each category which you use here as four, four
categories.
Mr. Dawkins: I'm going along with J. L., defer it, and when you come back,
also... oh, the Chief is here.
Chief Clarence Dickson: I did not hear the question in reference to the -----
Mr. Plummer: The question is, Chief, you're asking us to allocate $650,000,
expressed by Commissioner Dawkins and I that which we have in the backup
material, is not an adequate breakdown of where those monies are going. And
we would like to see an adequate breakdown.
Chief Dickson: I have an adequate breakdown for that.
Mr. Plummer: We don't have it, sir.
Chief Dickson: That...
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Mr. Plummer: If you're just talking about the two hundred thousand, the one
hundred and eighty, the hundred and ninety and eighty, what we're saying, we
want to see more of a detail of where those monies are going.
Chief Dickson: Well, I have in front of me, a breakdown of all the monies
that have been spent. The law enforcement trust fund, this is what was
requested when we first brought this resolution... proposal to the commission,
and we had this ready within about fifteen minutes the same day, but it never
got... we never got a chance to present it.
Mr. Plummer: Well, I have no problem with deferring it. We can read it over
lunch and bring it back up this afternoon. But I don't have it.
Chief Dickson: Ok.
Mr. Dawkins: Well, I need, and when you....
Chief Dickson: I'll see that you get a copy before.
Mr. Dawkins: ... and when you come back this afternoon, I'll need to know if
this... if rental includes automobiles or what equipment you're going to rent.
I'll also need to know what consultant services you plan to purchase, and from
whom and why. _
Chief Dickson: Ok, all those things will be done...
Mr. Dawkins: Have you got that? Have you got that? Have you got that there
now?
Chief Dickson: I heard what you said, Commissioner Dawkins.
Mr. Dawkins: I mean you have... no, no, I'm asking you. If you have it, I'll
listen now but, if not, I'll need it this afternoon, Chief.
Chief Dickson: Yes, yes.
Mr. Dawkins: Ok.
Mayor Suarez: We have a motion to defer and a second.
Ms. Kennedy: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Any further discussion? Call the roll. What happened to the
Vice -Mayor? I guess he doesn't disagree.
THEREUPON, the City Commission on motion duly
made by Commissioner Plummer and seconded by
Commissioner Dawkins, deferred consideration of
the above matter by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.*
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
NOTE FOR THE RECORD: Although absent on roll call Vice -Mayor J.L. Plummer
requested of the City Clerk to be shown voting with the motion.
Mayor Suarez: Item...
Mr. Dawkins: Under twenty.
Mayor Suarez: We deferred that. Do you want to reflect your vote as....
Mr. Dawkins: That's J. L., J. L....
Mr. Plummer: On 19?...
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Mayor Suarez: Right.
Mr. Plummer: ... deferred until they bring back a breakdown, yes.
Mayor Suarez: Do you want to table it until this afternoon?
Mr. Plummer: That's fine. Well, we deferred until such time as we receive
the list, we can go over it and then discuss it.
Mayor Suarez: That was the import of the motion.
Mr. Plummer: Ok.
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15. CITY TO CONTACT FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO TALK ABOUT POSSIBLE EXCHANGE OF
WATSON BUILDING FOR THE U.S. NAVAL RESERVE CENTER (See labels #7, and
#34)
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Mayor Suarez: Item twenty-one.
Mr. Dawkins: Under twenty, no twenty, item twenty. Mr. Manager.
Mr. Odio: Yes, sir.
Mr. Dawkins: When you sell this building and theres between eight hundred and
fifteen thousand and a million and a quarter, what are you going to do with
the money?
Mr. Odio: Oh, I'll have to put that money into the City funds and you decide
what to do with that money, Commissioner.
Mr. Dawkins: All right. It goes into the general fund, is it going into a
building fund, its going where?
Mr. Odio: Where ever you choose, Commissioners.
Mr. Dawkins: Yes, ok.
Mr. Odio: I was instructed to proceed to try to find....
Mr. Plummer: Well, wait a minute now. Hold on. Aren't we talking about, as
I recall, this Commission approved a hand in hand project with Off Street
Parking Authority?
Mr. Odio: No, sir.
Mr. Plummer: Yes, sir, we sure did.
Mr. Odio: No, sir.
Mr. Plummer: You go back into the minutes and you're going to find that we
talked about the possibility of a swap. Let me tell you what it was for.
Well, let me refresh your memory. That at the time we talked about just the
air rights....
Mr. Dawkins: We're on twenty, Joe.
Mr. Plummer: ... over that building to the federal government in return for
this property on Bayshore Drive. Now, there had been inquiries to the
administration, prior to you, that they needed additional space for the
federal building. And we said, hey, this building is contiguous to you, and
that we would like to enter in to some talks... if we... if you don't remember
it, I still say its a damn good deal! Now, if we can acquire this property
here on South Bayshore Drive, which is surplus, and we can give them this
building in exchange for it, I think that puts us in the driver's seat. We
can offer them something that no one else can offer but money. Now, is this
Commission honest and sincere in wanting to acquire thFt parcel across the
street? I think the answer is "yes". The Naval Reserve Center. It's going
to be for sale very, very quickly.
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Mr. Odio: Let's see if we can get that donated to the City. That's what we
were trying to get it, donated - by the federal government.
Mr. Plummer: Well, let me tell you, with Reaganism, I think you're whistling
Dixie. You're not going to get to first base.
Mr. Odio: We have people working...
Mr. Plummer: I would rather see the City first negotiate with next door. I
think that our chances of saying to the federal government, hey guys, we want
that property, you need the Watson Building because its contiguous to your
building. We would like to enter into a negotiated situation.
Mr. Odio: Fine.
Mr. Plummer: Now, other members of this Commission express your view, but I
want that property in the worst way for the City. I would move, at this time
that the City administration enter into immediate conversation with the
federal government, that if they still want that Watson Building, that we are
interested in talking about giving it to them in return for the property known
as the U. S. Naval Reserve Center.
Mr. Dawkins: Second.
Ms. Kennedy: Oh, I love that. I'd love to second it.
Mr. Carollo: What's the motion again, J.L.?
Mr. Plummer: Joe, instead of selling...
Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded.
Mr. Plummer: ... the Watson Building next to the federal building, let the
government know that we would be interested in giving them that building if,
in fact, they'll give us the property on South Bayshore Drive.
Mr. Carollo: Can we get approved from the foundation on giving the Watson
Building, or...
Mr. Plummer: We can check with the Miami Enquirer.
Mr. Carollo: They're very touchy on anything having to do with Watson...
Mr. Plummer: We'll check with the Miami Enquirer.
Mr. Plummer: I so move.
Mr. Dawkins: Second.
Mayor Suarez: So moved and seconded. Any discussion? Does that make sense?
I mean, would you rather just sell it, get the money, and still....
Mr. Carollo: As long as we don't have to go into any duels over it, I'll go
ahead with it.
Mayor Suarez: Call the roll.
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The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 87-435
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE CITY
MANAGER, THROUGH HIS ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF, TO ENGAGE
APPROPRIATE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS IN
CONVERSATION FOR THE PURPOSE OF DETERMINING THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT'S POSSIBLE INTEREST IN ACQUIRING
TITLE TO THE CITY -OWNED WATSON BUILDING LOCATED AT 65
S.W. FIRST STREET IN EXCHANGE FOR THE U.S. NAVAL
TRAINING CENTER FACILITY IN THE AREA OF SOUTH BAYSHORE
DRIVE.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Dawkins, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carolio
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
16. CITY TO PREPARE A REDEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR AREA BOUNDED BY MIAMI RIVER, I-
95 AND SOUTH MIAMI AVENUE
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Mayor Suarez: Item twenty-one.
Mr. Dawkins: Twenty-one. Mr. Manager.
Mr. Odio: Yes, sir.
Mr. Dawkins: What makes this piece of property considered a blighted area?
Mr. Odio: They...
Martin Fine, Esq.: For the record, I'm sorry you asked the manager the
question, he nodded to me, do you want me to answer it?
Mr. Dawkins: No, no, the manager.
Mr. Odio: No, the reason... I'm trying to get my bearings because I was
thinking of the DuPont Plaza. The reason that this area needs to be
redeveloped, because there's not enough economic use to the area, it is
totally... it is not blighted, but its totally under economic misuse.
Mr. Dawkins: See, I have no problem... I know this, see. But I sat here when
I first came on this Commission, I mean I'm all for this, so don't get me
wrong. But I sat here when this Commission declared the DuPont area a
blighted area and went to the federal government and the state and got money,
ok? And I don't want us to call areas blighted that are not blighted.
Ms. Kennedy: Well, I pulled this item, Mr. Manager, because we have two other
areas that have not, you know, I'm afraid we're going to jeopardize the other.
I The other two have not been approved, and I didn't have enough information
about this plan.
Mr. Odio: Well, I...
Mr. Fine: I'll be glad to respond.
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Mr. Odio: thought that Mr. Fine had gone around the Commission to explain
the plans.
Ms. Kennedy: Ok, first, before you start, explain, do we put the other two
areas in j e:;:�Pardy?
Mr. Fine: No, no way.
Mr. Odio: I think that the Omni is now grandfathered in, into something that
the county did the other day, and the DuPont Plaza and this one are both in
jeopardy if we don't get our act together as far as getting the votes....
Mr. Plummer: Well, but I don't think that's really what Rosario is saying.
Mr. Odio: No, the...
Mr. Plummer: I think there are three areas, not two. One is Omni, one is
DuPont...
Mr. Odio: And what is this one?
Mr. Plummer: ...and this is the third.
Mr. Odio: That's correct.
Ms. Kennedy: This is the third. The other two...
Mr. Plummer: So, what she's saying, and I guess this is really the question
that Marty can't answer and we can't answer, that, in fact, are we putting the
DuPont Plaza or Omni...
Ms. Kennedy: Right.
Mr. Plummer: ... in jeopardy by considering a third?
Ms. Kennedy: By considering the third one.
Mr. Fine: I'd like to ... May I try to answer that?
Mr. Plummer: Sure.
Mr. Fine: Mr. Mayor, member of the Commission, for the record, my name is
Martin Fine, 2401 Douglas Road. There is no question in my mind that you're
not putting either or both of them in jeopardy. Each item stands on its own.
This is distinguishable from the others in many, many ways. If you want me
to, I'll go into it. I think both of those other areas are, indeed, important
to be declared tax increment areas. This is a tax increment area that ought
to be done. It is essential, in my opinion, you have an opportunity for one
of Florida's great developments that take place in the heart of your downtown
City without substantial difficulty in terms of any public sector investment
and it will not, in any manner, to the best of my knowledge and ability, to
tell you, jeopardize you in any way adversely impact any of those other areas.
There just is no question about that.
Mr. Plummer: Well, Marty, the only problem is is that we, as a City, and Dade
County as a Commission, when you start piling one on top of another and come
down to a grand total, that's where I think it could have an impact on their
thinking that says, hey, you know, one size area is one thing. When you start
putting five of those, now the total becomes five times larger.
Mr. Fine: Well.
Mr. Plummer: Now. Marty, let me deviate. Mr. Mayor?
Mayor Suarez: Yes.
Mr. Plummer: ... and members of this Commission, I wanted to bring to your
attention that those items are coming up next Tuesday on the County
Commission. Marty, am I correct on that?
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Mr. Fine: I couldn't tell you, but there's a lot of confusion about what's
coming up, when its coming up and what's happening.
Mr. Plummer: Ok. I have been so informed whether or not....
Mayor Suarez: When you mean... when you say that those items are coming up
next Tuesday, you mean that that ordinance that the county is proposing that
would limit the ability to define tax increment districts?
Mr. Plummer: No, sir, I think, I think... as I understand it, it is the for
purposes....
Mr. Fine: I have a....
Mr. Plummer: ...of the two designated areas.
Mayor Suarez: Is that the case? Is that the case, Marty? Because I....
Mr. Fine: Can I make one statement to....
Mayor Suarez: Sure.
Mr. Fine: ...I must tell you trying to get something like this through, you
need continually watching and monitoring. All we're asking you to do is
authorize your staff to do a plan. We're not asking you to declare it an
area. We're following a principle that you enunciate all the time, Mr.
Plummer....
Mr. Plummer: Yes.
Mr. Fine: ... and others - we come back to this Commission before we do
anything. But we can't go forward unless your staff works with us and does a
plan.
Mr. Plummer: I understand.
Mr. Fine: That's all we're asking you to do.
Mr. Plummer: I understand.
Mr. Fine: It will not in any... Commissioner Kennedy, we reviewed this with
you very carefully. I assure you it will not in any manner adversely impact
those other two.
Mayor Suarez: We're not declaring a tax increment district today....
Mr. Fine: Absolutely not.
Mayor Suarez: ...you're not asking us to do that. You're asking us to....
Mr. Fine: We're not asking you to do that.
Mr. Plummer: What happened....
Mayor Suarez: ...have staff review it for possible further...
Mr. Fine: Have staff prepare the plan.
Ms. Kennedy: Ok. Then let me move it in principle and then come back to us.
Mr. Fine: Absolutely.
Ms. Kennedy: ...with a more detailed.
Mr. Fine: Absolutely.
Ms. Kennedy: Ok.
Mr. Fine: All we're asking you to do is authorize the staff to do the plan.
and - come back to you to ask you to declare it a tax increment area.
Mr. Plummer: Who pays for the staff to do the plan?
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Mr. Fine: The staff is going to do the plan, and we'll give them a lot of
backup information to save a lot of time and cost. It's your planning
department and, frankly, the plan is pretty much done. I assure you its not
an expensive matter.
Mayor Suarez: And its in our interest to have the planning department....
Mr. Fine: The first phase of this project is somewhere between two hundred
and two hundred and fifty million dollars. I assure you, its in your
interest.
Mayor Suarez: To help to plan it too, to make sure that we have, to the
extent that we're able to by planning, the right elements there, including
that riverwalk that you're going to be building.
Mr. Fine: Put in at our cost. We'll come back, I assure you.
Ms. Kennedy: So moved.
Mr. Plummer: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded. At some point, before we declare a tax
increment district, the Commission, I'm sure, is going to want to be satisfied
of Commissioner Dawkins' question, which is, how do we bring this under the
state definition of slum and blighted, or is there another part of that
definition?
Mr. Fine: When your motion is over, I can give you an answer to that.
Mr. Plummer: You're winning.
Mayor Suarez: You're learning our ways, you're learning our ways. Call the
roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner. Kennedy, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 87-436
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO
PREPARE A REDEVELOPMENT PLAN PURSUANT TO PART III OF
CHAPTER 163, FLORIDA STATUTES, AS AMENDED, FOR AN AREA
GENERALLY BOUNDED BY THE MIAMI RIVER ON THE SOUTH, I-95
OFF RAMP TO S.E. 1 AVENUE ON THE NORTH, I-95 ON THE WEST
AND SOUTH MIAMI AVENUE ON THE EAST; SAID AREA BEING
GENERALLY KNOWN AS THE RIVER QUADRANT.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here
and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Mr. Fine: May I just, you know....
Mayor Suarez: Wait, you're going to let us finish the vote, right?
Mr. Fine: Just for the record, in terms of the DuPont Plaza area. Stuart
Simon and I helped draft some legislation several years ago that says that
transportation needs come under the definition of Chapter 163 to declare
"blighted". So when you say its blighted, it is merely in DuPont Plaza
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because the traffic is inadequate, not because anything down there is
blighted.
Mayor Suarez: It is in dire need of transportation improvements would be
the...
Mr. Fine: Its not blighted in the sense that they are ugly structures.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Suarez: Yes.
Mr. Plummer: On June the 16th is when I'm now reinformed...
Mayor Suarez: Right.
Mr. Plummer: ...that this matter of the DuPont Plaza will be coming up. I...
Mayor Suarez: And its in connection with an ordinance that I think that we
ought to do everything in our power to oppose unless you've got some other
information, because it really makes it extremely difficult to have tax
increment districts declared by the county.
Mr. Plummer: Let me tell you, Mr. Mayor, what my concern is.
Mayor Suarez: Yes.
Mr. Plummer: As you know, I have directly been involved with negotiations
with Olympia and York.
Mayor Suarez: Right.
Mr. Plummer: They have not come and made a flat statement, but they have more
or less said that unless this tax increment is applied to that parcel, they
will not be building an eight hundred million dollar project in this City.
Now, let me go one step further, Mr. Mayor, because, needless to say, we do
want that project, we do want that kind of construction, but there's a very...
there is a very important facet, the only chance that I see of the alleviation
of the problem of transportation in that area is through their plan because
they own the property. As part of their plan, they are donating tremendous
amount of square footage to make a plan that will work. Without their
cooperation, I think we would be long time runny, short time by and by catchy.
So, I think there's two important factors here. One, that we get an eight
hundred million dollar project, and in that is the solution of the traffic
problem which they have already proffered that they will do. It is very, very
key to this City that, that project proceed and I'll tell you, I have spoken
to Jim Redford and I have just begged him not to look at the short run, but to
look at the long term run of what this project means to this community - not
just in an eight hundred million dollar project, but the potential of
alleviating the problem at the I-95 onto the Second Avenue. So, I don't know
what we can do, whether its through the city attorney's office - how we go
about trying to impress upon the county how serious we think this item is.
Now, I'm willing to listen, whether its the administration, the city
attorney's office, or where; I just say that this project is going to be the
one that unsnarls the traffic in the downtown area.
Ms. Kennedy: Well, I think one of the things that all of us could be doing is
calling individually the City... the county commissioners and the mayor.
Mr. Plummer: Well, I'll tell you, if the administration will remind me and
I'll ask my secretary to remind me, I think if all of us could appear there on
the 16th of June, I just think its that important to this community - I really
do.
Mr. Carollo: Did we get the approval from the Miami Herald ready?
Mr. Plummer: The Miami Enquirer?
Mr. Carollo: I want to make sure, since they're so concerned about losing 400
rooms, that they're not going to be wanting to lose eight hundred million
dollars of construction in this town.
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Mr. Plummer: That's all right, Joe, they'll send you a pound of rice.
Mr. Carollo: Incidentally, I did get a telegram from Gary Hart this morning
thanking me for getting the Miami Herald off his back.
Mr. Dawkins: Mr. Fine. Sit down, Marty, sit down. You know, when the
developers come, they offer proffers, ok, and me and Commissioner Kennedy have
a vendetta going, and that is that she wants day care and I like the parks.
So, therefore, when you guys get ready to proffer, keep that in mind, please.
Mr. Fine: We're aware of it, and we'll be responsive to it.
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17. ACCEPT PLAT: WOLFE'S INDUSTRIAL PLAT
Mr. Dawkins: Ok. Mr. Mayor, lets... I move 26 since it was removed....
Mayor Suarez: Marty, before you leave, I have one informational question.
Mr. Dawkins: I move 26. Anybody second it?
Ms. Kennedy: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded. Let me ask just one last question to
clarify for the record. It has a lot to do with just how far you have
proceeded. Is it correct to state that in regards to that project, you have
acquired now all of the land that you have just shown us as being a part of
the project?
Mr. Fine: There's one last piece that is, hopefully, will be signed within
the next 30 days.
Mayor Suarez: And those are options or actual acquisitions?
Mr. Fine: Well, I would say 80 percent of it is land already owned by the
applicant... by Landco, and two major pieces are contracts which have options
built into them depending upon the process and the creation of the district
and all of that, so....
Mayor Suarez: You understand why we....
Mr. Fine: I know exactly, we'll get back to you and report.
Mayor Suarez: Yeah, we want to know, really, to what extent the applicant is
really committed to doing something there and is not just buying options in
case that the value should go up....
Mr. Fine: No, no, no. The applicant already owns 80 percent of this
property.
Mayor Suarez: Thank you, Marty. I'm sorry. We have a motion and a second on
item 26.
Mr. Foeman: Yes, we do.
Mayor Suarez: Any discussion? Call the roll.
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The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Dawkins, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 87-437
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE PLAT ENTITLED WOLFE'S
INDUSTRIAL PLAT, A SUBDIVISION IN THE CITY OF MIAMI'
AND ACCEPTING THE DEDICATIONS SHOWN ON SAID PLAT; AND
AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER AND CITY
CLERK TO EXECUTE THE PLAT AND PROVIDING FOR THE
RECORDATION OF SAID PLAT IN THE PUBLIC RECORDS OF DADE
COUNTY, FLORIDA
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Kennedy, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy 1k•
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
18. BID OPENING FOR CONSTRUCTION OF CITYWIDE HIGHWAY IMPROVEMENT PHASE IV B-
4526
Mayor Suarez: You're very eloquent, counselor. Item 58, open the bids
please.
Mr. Dawkins: Twenty-two.
Mayor Suarez: I'm sorry, item 58, let's open the bids.
Mr. Walter Foeman: Mr. Mayor, item 58 is the opening of sealed bids for
construction of citywide highway improvement, phase IV B-4526. The first bid
is submitted by Ocean Bay Construction, Inc., total bid $693,124.37. The
second bid is submitted by P. J. Constructors, Inc.; total bid $779,165.00.
The third bid is submitted by PNM Corporation.
Mayor Suarez: Which is that, P?
Mr. Foeman: PNM.
Mr. Dawkins: PNM, the one who get's everything.
Mayor Suarez: Yeah, they're all over the place, aren't they?
Mr. Dawkins: Yes.
Mr. Foeman: Total bid, $701,302.68. The next bid, submitted by Galtech,
Inc.; total bid, $818,897.21.
Mr. Plummer: They're sure not interested.
Mr. Dawkins: No, sir, they're way out.
Mr. Foeman: The next bid is submitted by Delgado Paving, Inc.; total bid,
$668,034....
Mr. Plummer: Six fifty eight?
Mr. Foeman: Six, six, eight.
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Mr. Plummer: Six, six, eight.
Mr. Foeman: oh three four and sixty-eight cents.
Mr. Dawkins: Ok.
Mr. Foeman: The next bid is submitted by Mirri Construction, Inc.
Mr. Plummer: I'm sorry, the name again.
Mr. Foeman: Mirri Constructions, Inc.
Mr. Plummer: Middy? M I D D Y?
Mr. Foeman: M I R R I, sir.
Mr. Plummer: Mirri.
Mr. Foeman: Mirri. Total bid, $716,196.18.
Mr. Dawkins: What was that again?
Mr. Plummer: That's it?
Mr. Foeman: No. I have one more. The next bid is Williams Paving Company,
Inc.; total bid $669,488.18.
Mr. Plummer: I move that they be sent to the finance department for
evaluation and brought back for award.
Mr. Dawkins: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded. Which was the lowest? And what was the
estimate?
Mr. Plummer: The lowest was six six eight, Delgado.
Mr. Dawkins: No, six five nine.
Mr. Plummer: No, six six nine.
Mr. Dawkins: So the lowest is six six eight.
Mr. Foeman: Six six eight,oh three four ($668,034).
Mr. Plummer: That's Delgado.
Mr. Dawkins: Ok.
Mr. Foeman: Delgado Paving, Inc.
Mr. Dawkins: What was the estimate, Mr. Williams?
Mr. Plummer: Seven hundred thousand.
Mr. Dawkins: Seven hundred thousand, ok. Second J.L.'s motion.
Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded. Any discussion? Call the roll.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved
its adoption:
MOTION NO. 87-438
A MOTION TO RECEIVE, OPEN, AND READ ALOUD SEALED BIDS FOR
CONSTRUCTION OF CITYWIDE HIGHWAY IMPROVEMENT PHASE IV B-
4526; FURTHER REFERRING SAID BIDS TO THE ADMINISTRATION
FOR PROPER TABULATION OF SAME.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Dawkins, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote-
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AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
19. ISSUE REVOCABLE USE PERMIT TO TROPICAL CLEAR BLUE LAUNDRY SERVICES FOR
USE OF SPACE IN OVERTOWN SHOPPING CENTER
Mayor Suarez: Item twenty-three.
Mr. Dawkins: Twenty-two.
Mayor Suarez: Sorry, twenty-two.
Mr. Dawkins: That's ok.
Mayor Suarez: Are you sure we pulled that?
Mr. Dawkins. Yes, I did.
Mr. Plummer: Yeah.
Mayor Suarez: Mr. City Clerk, did we....
Mr. Odio: Twenty-two was pulled.
Mayor Suarez: Yes, we did, you're right.
Mr. Foeman: Yes, we did, sir.
Mayor Suarez: Item twenty-two.
Mr. Dawkins: Ok. You have here, estimated revenue to the City will be five
thousand four hundred seventy two dollars ($5,472) a year. Why are we giving
away this property? I mean, why are we going to let somebody stay there for a
whole year for five thousand dollars?
Mr. Ron Williams: Because, Commissioner, that seems to be consistent with
your desire for us to really get active in terms of trying to bring people in
there. We found a vendor that could come in. We worked out a revocable
permit now, understand, you are in complete control of this until such time as
we can get a long term arrangement worked out through a formal RFP process.
We thought that offering a revocable permit that you could control on a
reasonable rental basis would help meet the Commission's objective to get
people into the center and get activity going. By the way, this vendor is in
there doing well, and we have received recent correspondence with him, and
he's very happy to be there.
Mr. Dawkins: I would be too. If he makes sixty -thousand dollars ($60,000) a
year; you're going to only charge him five thousand dollars ($5,000) rent. I
mean, I'd be happy too.
Mr. Williams: Well, Commissioner, I agree with you. We thought that we
needed to work with potential tenants in an aggressive fashion and try and get
the shopping center to where you'd like for it to be - busy, involved, bring
in entrepreneurs that could actually get the process going and, as I said
earlier, this is a permit that you control.
Mr. Dawkins: Well, I've got a problem with the rent. If nobody else has, let
it go.
Mr. Plummer: Well, let me tell you how you rectify that problem, ok. You go
back and you negotiate a base bid of five thousand dollars ($5,000) rent, and
then a percentage of gross after that.
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Mr. Williams: Absolutely, absolutely, Commissioner, this....
Mr. Dawkins: Well, ab....
Mr. Wiliiams: ... this is only a permit that we've provided.
Mr. Plummer: No, no, no, no. No. No. What I'm saying is, you go back and
you renegotiate with the tenant that you're talking to, and you tell them that
the base bid is five thousand, and then you set a figure above that, we get a
percentage of the gross.
Mr. Odio: I guess I have to say this on the record - I didn't want to. The
problem is, nobody wants to go there and we are trying to bring people....
Mr. Dawkins: Oh hell, I'll tell you what then. I'll go get you all the
people you want to come in there for four thousand dollars ($4,000) a year.
Mr. Odio: Ok, well.
Mr. Dawkins: Ok, I mean, I mean.... I'll find you, if we don't open up
nothing but a hot dog stand, we're going to make four thousand dollars.
Mr. Williams: Well, it is our... Commissioner, it is our desire to make this
a competitive environment, and obviously realize higher revenues to the City.
As you will recall, you gave us six months to really get going and get some
activity there.
Mr. Dawkins: Mr. Will... Mr. Williams, I said I have a problem with it, but
if nobody else has got a problem, forget about it.
Mr. Plummer: Well, yeah, I do.
Mr. Dawkins: Ok, so that's the....
Mr. Plummer: Well, what I'm saying to you is, I don't know what the
potential... we want to help people, we want to help the City, ok? Give them
a low rent, but like he says, if they make more than $50,000 a year, we get
three percent or seven percent, or a percentage above that. We're going to
give it to them, if they don't make money.
Mr. Dawkins: That's right.
Mr. Plummer: Ok? At this number. But, my God, if they go in there and they
make $400,000, we wish them well, I think the City is entitled to more rent.
Mr. Williams: Commissioner, I think you're right and what we will do as we
develop this RFP for the long term lease at this facility, we will naturally
take into consideration....
Mr. Dawkins: You will take it into consideration now. See, that's what I'm
talking about. When did this lease run out?
Mr. Williams: This is not a lease. This is a permit.
Mr. Dawkins: It's a what?
Mr. Odio: Just a permit, we can move them out anytime we want. I'll tell you
what I suggest with that, you authorize us to enter into an agreement with
these... in a revocable permit deal, and we'll add to that what you want,
above that amount they start paying more.
Mr. Dawkins: That's all. That's all.
Mr. Plummer: That's fine.
Mr. Dawkins: That's right. Ok, no problem.
Mr. Plummer: Now, but what is that amount and what percentage?
Mr. Williams: We... it confines with what the....
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Mr. Plummer: Above what amount and what percentage? Give me a number. Be
fair.
Mr. Williams: Ah, fifty thousand.
Mr. Plummer: And above fifty thousand gross, what do get percentage?
Mr. Williams: It's a difficult one to guess at Commissioner, but somewhere in
the neighborhood of five to ten - between five and ten, would be....
Mr. Plummer: Hey, I don't want to do a hardship, make it five. I got no
problem with that. Dawkins?
(Inaudible response from Commissioner Dawkins here.)
Mr. Plummer: Anything that they... we have a minimum rent of $5,000 a year;
anything above $50,000 in gross, now you going to prorate that, or are you
going to do it on an annual basis? That's maybe a key. I would rather
be...hey, and I'm not going to pull any punches due to the history, ok? I
would rather make it $48,000 at five percent, on a monthly determination.
Mr. Williams: Sure, ok.
Mr. Plummer: Ok. That the rent is monthly... is the rent monthly?
Mr. Olmedillo: Yes.
Mr. Williams: Yes.
Mr. Plummer: Ok. Anything over $4,000 in gross, we get five percent of.
Mr. Williams: Ok, thank you.
Mr. Plummer: That's fair.
Mr. Williams: Thank you.
Mr. Dawkins: I move twenty-second - twenty-two with those.
Mayor Suarez: With the modifications and provisos, so moved.
Mr. Plummer: And we hope this City makes a lot of money, because that means
they're going to make a lot of money.
Mr. Dawkins: Ok, so moved.
Mr. Williams: Thank you.
Mayor Suarez: Moved. Do we have a second?
Mr. Plummer: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Second. Any discussion? Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Dawkins, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 87-439
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ISSUE A
REVOCABLE USE PERMIT, IN A FORM ACCEPTABLE TO THE CITY
ATTORNEY, TO TROPICAL CLEAR BLUE LAUNDRY SERVICES,
INC. FOR THE USE OF 1,216 SQUARE FEET OF SPACE IN THE
OVERTOWN SHOPPING CENTER LOCATED AT 1490 N.W. 3
AVENUE, MIAMI,. FLORIDA, WHEREBY THE PERMITTEE SHALL
PAY A MINIMUM ANNUAL FEE OF $5,000, PAYABLE IN MONTHLY
INSTALLMENTS, PLUS AN ADDITIONAL FIVE PERCENT (5%) OF
GROSS REVENUES IN EXCESS OF $4,000 PER MONTH IN
A EXCHANGE FOR THEIR USE OF SAID PROPERTY.
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file in the Office of the City Clerk
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Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
(NOTE FOR THE RECORD: COMMISSIONER DAWKINS REQUESTED THAT ITEM 32 BE DEFERRED
UNTIL THE AFTERNOON SESSION. MR. DAWKINS LEFT THE MEETING AT 11:14 A.M.)
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20. DECLARE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT PROJECT AND DRAFT REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS IN
CONNECTION WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF MARINE -ORIENTED RECREATIONAL AND
RETAIL USES AT S.W. 2 STREET AND NORTH RIVER DRIVE ON THE MIAMI RIVER
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Mayor Suarez: Item twenty-three.
Mr. Odio: This, ah... on December, 1986, the City Commission adopted in
principle the N. W. North River Drive design concept.
Mr. Plummer: Where is this property, in fact?
Mr. Odio: The... the... is on a riverfront land located at S. W. 2nd Street
and S. W. North River Drive...
Ms. Kennedy: ... North River Drive.
Mr. Plummer: Is this the Pioneer Club?
Mr. Odio: No, no.
Sergio Rodriguez: This is the area adjacent to the I-95 where we own a
property in that area.
Mr. Plummer: Oh, its on the other side.
Mr. Odio: Is right across from Jose Marti.
Mr. Plummer: Across from Marti.
Mr. Odio: Across, on the other side.
Mr. Plummer: Where is Marti? This is where the Ryan Building property...
this is now a parking lot. Isn't this off street parking?
Unidentified male speaker: No....
Mr. Plummer: Don't they have meters in here?
Mr. John Gilchrist: No. Off street parking is under the expressway.
Mr. Plummer: Ok. And what are you saying that you want to do with this
parcel?
Mr. Odio: That... it... marine related recreational and retail uses including
food and beverage sales...
t Mr. Plummer: Do we own it?
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Mr. Odio: Yes, we do. And we're also saying that any improvements will be
made at no cost to the City. So we will be getting percentage of the
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concessions.
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Mr. Rodriguez: You remember when we presr,nted to you: the North River Drive
project that had the sidewalks and included the Lummus Park eventually and the
Pioneer Club. It was a whole band of property on the river and you approved
it in principle. This is one of the pieces.
Mr. Plummer: How much... how much of the front of that property is reserved
for... how much of that is reserved for River Foot Walk?
Mr. Rodriguez: It will be with this. When we develop this, we will have a
River Walk, and we will have also something that will produce some revenues
that we propose, at some point, will be used back in that area to improve the
rest of the area.
Mr. Plummer: If I walk out, you don't have a quorum and I've got a phone call
to make. I have no further questions.
Mayor Suarez: I'll entertain a motion on item twenty-three.
Ms. Kennedy: I move it.
Mayor Suarez: Moved.
Mr. Plummer: It's just for the RFP.
Mayor Suarez: That's a second, I think.
Mr. Plummer: Yes.
Mayor Suarez: Any discussion? Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Kennedy, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 87-440
A RESOLUTION DECLARING THAT THE MOST ADVANTAGEOUS METHOD
TO DEVELOP CERTAIN IMPROVEMENTS ON A CITY -OWNED,
RIVERFRONT LAND, PARCEL IS BY A UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT
PROJECT (UDP), AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO PREPARE A
DRAFT REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS (RFP) FOR A UDP, AND
CONFIRMING THE SETTING OF A PUBLIC HEARING FOR JULY 9,
1987, AT 2:30 P.M. TO TAKE TESTIMONY REGARDING A UNIFIED
DEVELOPMENT RFP FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF MARINE -ORIENTED
RECREATIONAL AND RETAIL USES, INCLUDING FOOD AND BEVERAGE
SALES, OF AN APPROXIMATELY .75 ACRE CITY -OWNED LAND PARCEL
LOCATED AT SW 2ND STREET AND SW NORTH RIVER DRIVE ON THE
MIAMI RIVER; TO AUTHORIZE THE ISSUANCE OF A RFP; AND TO
SELECT A CERTIFIED PUBLIC ACCOUNTING FIRM TO EVALUATE
PROPOSALS AND REPORT FINDINGS TO THE CITY MANAGER AS
REQUIRED BY THE CITY CHARTER AND CODE.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here
and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
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21. DISCUSSION AND TEMPORARY DEFERRAL OF STREET CLOSURE FOR PARADE BY
RENOVACION CARISMATICA CATOLICA HISPANA (See label #35)
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Mayor Suarez: Item twenty... no, we did twenty-six. Item thirty. I don't
know who pulled that one.
Mr. Odio: I think it was requested by Ken Nelson.
Ms. Kennedy: I didn't.
Mr. Odio: I don't know what he's... it's only a closing...
Ms. Kennedy: It's only a street closure.
Mr. Odio: It's only a street closure and thirty-one, by the way, is
withdrawn, so I don't know why he wanted to pull that one.
Mayor Suarez: We have withdrawn it?
Mr. Odio: We withdrew that.
Mr. Ken Nelson: I ,just have a quick question, and than I have a statement to
make - and the question is...
Mayor Suarez: Ken Nelson of the F.O.P.
Mr. Nelson: Ken Nelson with the F.O.P.
Mayor Suarez: Thank you.
Mr. Nelson: ... and these festivals here that are listed, is the City, in any
way providing any in kind services, any waivers of fees, any monies whatsoever
to these type of festivals?
Mr. Odio: Not that I know.
Mr. Nelson: Ok, and the statement I have is... at the last Commission
meeting it was stated that for a festival, if the City was providing in kind
service, that they'd have to provide police officers at a time and a half
rate. It was suggested that instead of providing in - kind services, that the
City would take and pay economic grants, and that way they could subterfuge
the time and a half rate and pay a regular off -duty rate. Our concern is if
there's a problem, we feel it should be brought before the F.O.P. as a
negotiable process, and we can try and work it out. The City has come to us
on several things in the past, and we were able to come up with a suitable
solution. Other area of concern that I have is, if this anyway deals with the
Fair Labor Standards Act, or the Labor Department rules and regulations,
there's nothing that we can here at the local level to renegotiate that, and,
before we start making any type of these deals, or trying to imply to these
festivals that there's a way of beating the police officers out of paying them
a time and a half rate, I think we need to get down together, collectively,
and try and work out and resolve this problem, and that's what we would ask on
behalf of the F.O.P. Thank you.
Mr. Odio: Mr. Mayor...
Mayor Suarez: Thank you for your statement. Mr. City Manager.
Mr. Odio: As far as the police department, they do not recommend that we
approve this street closure. They want to close Flagler Street the whole day
and that would not be...
Unidentified speaker: That's for item thirty.
a Mr. Odio: Yes, item thirty.
Mayor Suarez: That item was withdrawn so there's no need for us to get,..
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Mr. Odio: No, item thirty is not withdrawn, it's thirty-one that's withdrawn.
On thirty, they want to...
Ms. Kennedy: But it's on a Saturday.
Mr. Odio: But, the police department is recommending against that.
Mayor Suarez: Do we have anyone who is interested in item thirty? Wishes to
address this Commission on item thirty? It's on a Saturday, you said? May
23rd?
Ms. Kennedy: It's on Saturday.
Mr. Odio: You have to remember, the stores are open for business and the
traffic for Bayside, they are...
Joseph Linguera: If you close Flagler Street, I don't know what their
proposed budget is, but they are going to have to hire an additional number of
police officers just to divert traffic. Because they're closing it...
Mayor Suarez: How much of Flagler do they want to close?
Mr. Linguera: They want to close it from Biscayne Blvd. to Third Avenue.
Well, all that traffic that goes down Flagler Street, that's where it gets in.
There's no way to get in Flagler Street and we'd have to hire police officers
for every intersection to divert traffic all the way around and get them back
on Flagler.
Mayor Suarez: Joe, let me ask the City Manager. Were these people... was it
indicated to them that because this was going to be part of the consent agenda
that it would be recommended by the Manager? By the administration?
Mr. Odio: Frank recommended... Frank met, Castaneda met with them. I did not
know at the time that they were talking about closing Flagler or I would not
have recommended myself.
Mayor Suarez: What can we do to be fair to these people? They're not even
here.
Frank Castaneda: Well, we can call them and make sure that they're here in
the afternoon.
Mayor Suarez: Yeah, why don't we do that. Let's table this item then.
Mr. Odio: We did tell them that they had to pay all necessary City services,
so when they find out the cost of police, they will...
Mayor Suarez: They might want to adjust their own route.
Mr.. Plummer: What is the estimated cost of police?
Mr. Odio: With the additional police officers, ah....
Mr. Castaneda: I do not have it, Commissioner. We're not paying for it and
that's why I don't have it.
Mr. Linguera: Right now, their request is to close Flagler. We're
recommending against it. If you approve it, we'd have to figure out what's
the best way to do it. We'd probably have to go down to Second Street, divert
them to Third Avenue, north to Flagler.
Mr. Plummer: What day of the week is this?
Ms. Kennedy: Saturday.
Mr. Odio: Saturday.
Mr. Plummer: Oh, boy.
Mr. Linguera: I mean, you know, that's the whole block of Flagler - the
entrance to Flagler Street. That's a big... lot of traffic.
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Ms. Kennedy: Joe, can you get us some figures for this afternoon?
Mr. Linguera: I'll call and get it for this afternoon, yes.
Mayor Suarez: Ok. That item has been tabled.
(NOTE FOR THE RECORD: ITEM 31 WAS WITHDRAWN. ITEM 32 WAS DEFERRED TO 2:30
P.M. ITEM S-1 WAS DEFERRED TO 5:00 P.M.)
22. FIRST READING ORDINANCE: ESTABLISH NEW FUND- "POLICE SECOND DOLLAR
TRAINING - CONSOLIDATED"
Mayor Suarez: Item thirty-three.
Mr. Odio: It's establishing a new police special revenue fund entitled,
"Police Second Dollar Training - Consolidated" for the purpose of providing
funding in the amount of five hundred and sixteen thousand dollars... six
hundred and thirty four, I'm sorry, for law enforcement training and
education.
Mayor Suarez: We're not specifying at this point, how it will be spent,
just...
Mr. Plummer: What number?
Ms. Kennedy: Thirty-three.
Mayor Suarez: ... thirty-three.
Mr. Odio: The state statute allows municipalities to assess an additional
$2.00 court costs against every person convicted of a violation of a state
penal or criminal statute or convicted of a violation of municipal or county
ordinance to be used to provide approved training and education for officers.
This comes... these funds are coming from that.
Mayor Suarez: And we'll build it into our budget as a... with some kind of
recommendation how the money will be spent. Is that the way it will work?
Mr. Odio: Yes, sir.
Ms. Kennedy: .Why is this an emergency item - or an emergency ordinance?
Mayor Suarez: I guess we have to start imposing the fines, otherwise we won't
get the money.
Mr. Plummer: Well, you know, I got another problem, the same as before. Mr.
Manager, we have no breakdown how this money is going to be spent.
Mr. Odio: This can only be spent on - for training and education of police.
Further...
Mr. Plummer: That's fine, but you know, you know exactly what I'm talking
about.
Mr. Odio: Well, may...
Mr. Plummer: ... Miller Dawkins wants to know who is the groups that are
going to be paid to be trained?
Mr. Odio: Fine, may I suggest you pass it on first reading and we'll bring it
back and explain it to you on the second reading.
Mr. Plummer: I have no problem with passing it on first reading with the full
understanding that it will not come up on second reading until such time as we
have a complete and full breakdown. I so move.
Ms. Kennedy: Second.
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Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded.
Mr. Plummer: Wait a minute. You don't have four votes.
Unidentified male speaker: Need four -fifths.
Mayor Suarez: You're moving it on first reading, you said.
Mr. Plummer: Oh, OK.
Unidentified male speaker: Oh, yeah, OK.
Mayor Suarez: Call the roll. Read the ordinance.
(Ms. Dougherty reads the ordinance.)
Mayor Suarez: Call the roll.
Mr. Plummer: This is on first reading.
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN ORDINANCE ESTABLISHING A NEW SPECIAL REVENUE FUND
ENTITLED: "POLICE SECOND DOLLAR TRAINING -
CONSOLIDATED" FOR THE PURPOSE OF PROVIDING FUNDING IN
THE AMOUNT OF 4516,634 FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT TRAINING
AND EDUCATION AS DEFINED IN FLORIDA STATUTE
943.25(8)(A); CONTAINING A REPEALER PROVISION AND A
SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.
Was introduced by Commissioner Plummer and seconded by Commissioner
Kennedy and passed on its first reading by title by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and
announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commission and
to the public.
23. EMERGENCY ORDINANCE: INCREASE APPROPRIATIONS FOR "VIRGINIA KEY PARK
DEVELOPMENT" AND "KENNEDY PARK IMPROVEMENTS" (See label #36)
Mayor Suarez: Item thirty-four. Did you also have a special need as far as
the end of the day, today? That you had to leave at a particular time? You
solved that? OK. Item thirty-four.
Mr. Odio: This is amending the CIP ordinance by increasing appropriations for
two projects to cover additional expenses as follows: Virginia Key, $8,100;
Kennedy Park, $8,000. A total increase of $16,100. The funds come from
the ---- Parks for People Bonds Funds.
Ms. Kennedy: Didn't we just approve improvement to these two parks recently?
Mr. Odio: This was an increase... is needed to cost the cover of water
service installation which was not covered, and an increase at Kennedy Park is
needed to cover the costs of the constructing of the boardwalk of a special
wood that was not included either.
Mr. Plummer: Who approved the additional allocation?
Mr. Odio: Who approved?
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Mr. Plummer: Who approved the additional work which was not within the scope
of the original picture without this Commission's approval - above $4,500?
Did you rebid the expansion?
Mr. Odio: Was that an expansion or was there work done that....
Mr. Plummer: It's beyond the scope of what this Commission awarded. It's
beyond $4,500...
Mr. Odio: Is that....
Mr. Plummer: ... is where it says it has to go back out for rebidding.
Mr. Odio: It's an overrun of the costs. It was in... it was part of the...
what we were going to do there and this additional cost come in.
Mr. Walter Golby: I don't know.
Mr. Plummer: Don't everybody speak at once.
Mr. Odio: Go ahead, Walter.
Walter Golby: Well, the only thing I know is that the Kennedy Park eight
thousand dollar money was part of a county project that we were working with
the county, and that was a county bid. But, as far as Virginia Key, I don't
have the answer for that.
Mr. Plummer: Well, who, who approved the additional work to be done beyond
the scope which was approved by this Commission?
Mr. Odio: Have to find out how... why was... they found out they had to
install water after the fact.
Mr. Plummer: But, this commission was not so informed.
Mr. Odio: Well, if you were not, we'll apologize and if you were... if this
was part of the work, and it was an over - oversight on costs estimates...
Mr. Plummer: Madame City Attorney.
Mr. Odio: ... we'll explain it to you.
Mr. Plummer: Above $4,500, can they just authorize it without rebidding?
Ms. Dougherty: Above, did you say - or below?
Mr. Plummer: Yeah.
Ms. Dougherty: Can they authorize it without rebidding?
Mr. Plummer: Yeah.
Ms. Dougherty: It depends on what the contract said in it - the first one.
Mr. Plummer: Well, OK.
Mayor Suarez: Still on Virginia Key?
Mr. Plummer: Look, Mr. Mayor, I'm trying to make a point, OK? I'm trying to
tell the administration that in the future when you have an overrun or a
projected overrun, come back and get this Commission's approval. Don't do it
and then come up and ask us, as you are here today, to ratify it.
Mayor Suarez: To pay for it.
Mr. Plummer: OK? I think there is also the question, when you have an
overrun that exceeds $4,500, do you have to go out to rebidding? That's a
good question.
Mr. Odio: And then we will... we will have....
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Mr. Plummer: ...City Attorneys....
Mr. Odio: ... Commissioner, half done projects all over the City of Miami.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Manager, you want to go into an argument about that....
Mr. Odio: Maybe I want to.
Mr. Plummer: I'll tell you what the argument is, if you'd have done it right
in the first place, you wouldn't have to come back for rebidding.
Mr. Odio: Well, I think if you spend $300,000 and you have an overrun of
$8,000, OK, I'll stop.
Mayor Suarez: I would give him authority to go beyond $4,500 so that we don't
have to have all of these items before the Commission, but I....
Mr. Plummer: Well, I - I - I... Mr. Mayor, I don't have no problem.
Mayor Suarez: ... it may be a philosophical difference there.
Mr. Plummer: I don't have any problem with going up on that number, OK?
Maybe I do, maybe I don't. The point of it is, if you do your good planning
in the beginning, you don't have to worry about overruns later. I move 34 on
first reading.
Mayor Suarez: So moved.
Ms. Kennedy: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Seconded.
Mr. Jack Eads: Not as an emergency measure?
Mr. Plummer: Why? Justify the emergency.
Mr. Eads: So that we can get the job done.
Mayor Suarez: To complete the job.
Mr. Plummer: I'll move it on an emergency.
Ms. Kennedy: I'll second it.
Mayor Suarez: Seconded. While we're on Virginia Key and before we take a
vote, I want to say that, through the efforts of Commissioner Carollo, the
guard who is now out there is a heck of a lot more pleasant than the former
guard who used to be there, and seems to know who the Commissioners and the
Mayor are, and doesn't try to charge us for going in there to see how the Key
is doing and all of that. Particularly appreciate...
Ms. Dougherty: Thank you, for the record.
Mr. Carollo: I'm glad you heard about it.
Mayor Suarez: Yes. Call the roll. He did the same thing to me before,
that's why I mention it.
Ms. Dougherty reads the emergency ordinance here.
Mayor Suarez: Call the roll.
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AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED-
AN EMERGENCY ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTION 1 OF ORDINANCE
NO. 10187, ADOPTED DECEMBER 11, 1986, THE CAPITAL.
IMPROVEMENTS APPROPRIATIONS ORDINANCE, AS AMENDED,
INCREASING THE APPROPRIATIONS FOR TWO PROJECTS
ENTITLED "VIRGINIA KEY PARK DEVELOPMENT" PROJECT NO.
331044 AND "KENNEDY PARK IMPROVEMENTS" PROJECT NO.
331046 IN THE AMOUNTS OF $8,100 AND $8,000,
RESPECTIVELY, FROM 1972 PARKS AND RECREATION GENERAL
OBLIGATION BONDS FUNDS; CONTAINING A REPEALER
PROVISION AND A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.
Was introduced by Commissioner Plummer and seconded by Commissioner
Kennedy, for adoption as an emergency measure and dispensing with the
requirement of reading same on two separate days, which was agreed to by the
following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Whereupon the Commission on motion of Commissioner Plummer and seconded
by Commissioner Kennedy, adopted said ordinance by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
SAID ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO. 10268.
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and
announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commission and
to the public.
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24. DISCUSSION AND TEMPORARY DEFERRAL OF PROPOSED EMERGENCY ORDINANCE
ESTABLISHING NEW FUND: "SUMMER YOUTH EMPLOYMENT AND TRAINING PROGRAM"
AND ACCEPTING GRANT AWARD FROM U.S. LABOR DEPARTMENT (See label #37 and
#2)
Mayor Suarez: Item thirty-five; also an emergency ordinance. For the Summer
Youth Employment and Training program, already have a motion as to the drug
testing. Did we not pass that this morning?
Mr. Odio: You... you had... Commissioner, wanted the drug testing, as part of
this program...
Mayor Suarez: Right.
A
Mr. Odio: I believe, I do have to ask, is Joe Alfano here? He told me this
morning that the drug testing is against all regulations...
Mayor Suarez: For the federal government?
Mr. Odio: ... from the - so he's got to explain that.
Mayor Suarez: Did we pass it? I mean... what's... what's...
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Mr. Odio: No, you did not pass this item.
Mayor Suarez: We didn't pass it. OK, I'm sorry I brought it up. Item
thirty-five.
Mr. Plummer: Well, excuse me.
Mayor Suarez:
Unless somebody wants to
bring
it up.
Mr. Plummer:
Commissioner Dawkins did
bring
it up, and it was in relation to
this item.
Mr. Odio: And
he feels very emphatically
about the drug testing. Now, I
don't have any
problem in drug testing
those
kids. Now, lie's telling me that
the regulations prohibit. us from doing
that,
so we'd better...
Mayor Suarez:
Joe.
Mr. Bob Clark,
Esq.: There has been some clarification,
if I might.
Mayor Suarez:
Bob.
Mr. Clark: We have established that the City is not the employer of these
participants. We don't have the workmens' compensation, we don't process
them. This is entirely a consortium, and I'll use that word consortium for
familiarity, its the Summer Youth Employment Training program. The funds are
not received from the City, the participant gets a County payroll check, the
FICA is paid for by the County, Metropolitan Dade County, so that there is no
reason for the City, who only takes about half of the 824 participants in this
area are within the City, the City is not in a position to impose a drug
screening or a drug testing program. And I would assume that that's what
Miller... Commissioner Dawkins had asked us to research, to determine if we
could, and the reply is that there is no legal right for the City to impose a
drug testing procedure.
Mr. Plummer: So then it really comes down, does the City want the program,
accepting the drugs or we don't want the program and we won't accept the
drugs. That's really what it comes down to.
Mr. Clark: Well, there - there - there... we furnish job sites for the
participants, for about half the 800 participants. Now, if the City does not
feel that they want to, that, of course, is a policy decision from the City
Commission, but, so far, the participation, we have, we...
Mr. Odio: Mr. Mayor...
Mayor Suarez: How about voluntary drug testing?
Mr. Clark: That would be, of course...
Mayor Suarez: Can we build that in as a, I don't know, a resolution of intent
by the City and...
Mr. Clark: The consortium may be amenable to that.
Ms. Kennedy: It's ironic that this should come up on the "Say No To Drugs
Week."
Mayor Suarez: I can't imagine someone wanting to come and apply for a summer
job who, when being informed that there's voluntary testing in effect, would
refuse to take it. But... some might.
Ms. Dougherty: Not so voluntary.
Ms. Kennedy: They might.
Mr. Alfano: I don't know if they will refuse. The way I understand it is
that this would be on a voluntary basis?
Mayor Suarez: I mean that's just... I just proposed that, now.
Mr. Alfano: I would assume that that can be done without any problems.
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Mr. Clark: I think you ought to take it one step further. Then, what happens
if they test positive and what would be the consort.itim's position on that?
Mayor Suarez: That's a good question, but I can't imagine that the answers is
anything other than the fact that we would not give them a job, I don't....
Mr. Alfano: Mr. Mayor, T don't think that we will have the authority to deny
a job.
Mayor Suarez: Really?
Mr. Alfano: Absolutely. I have with me the attorney for the consortium, Mr.
Korner.
Ms. Kennedy: Wait, wait, wait. If it tests....
Mayor Suarez: If was testing positive on what kind of a substance, even one
that involved a felony if it was....
Ms. Kennedy: Yeah, run that by me again, please.
Unidentified male speaker: The federal act, the Job Partnership Training
Act....
Mayor Suarez: Give us the name, please, for the record.
Mr. Bob Korner: Bob Korner. ... says that anyone who is economically
disadvantaged and meets those requirements, is entitled to participate in this
program. And if we deny them that right, we would jeopardize the entire
program, and could cause a requirement that the funds used for this program by
this consortium be paid back to the federal government. We'd be talking about
several millions of dollars. Not only the money that the City is using, but
also the money that is being used by all of the other community based
operators, and some of the other jurisdictional....
Mr. Plummer: Where, besides....
Mr. Carollo: Even if the individual would be a drug user?
Mr. Korner: Well, if the person is disad.... is economically disadvantaged
and is a drug abuser....
Mr. Carollo: The reason some of those people might be economically
disadvantaged because of their darn drug usage.
Mr. Korner: That's true. Now they....
Mr. Carollo: Crack and cocaine are pretty expensive.
Mr. Korner: They would, of course, be in a program where they would be
supervised for eight hours a day. They would be off of the streets, and at
least employed that much.
Mr. Carollo: So... so you're telling me it's this way they could, you know,
break into homes only part time and, you know, steal purses only part time,
not full time.
Mr. Korner: No.
Mr. Carollo: I can't believe that the federal law is written in such a way
that individuals that have cocaine habits or other major drug habits, like
heroin, etc., or even marijuana, that we are forced to hire them.
Mr. Korner: Well, first of all, its not the City that's hiring them, but the
subcontractors who would be hiring them and be responsible for them. Also, it
should be noted that the job....
Mr. Plummer: Who is the subcontractor?
Mr. Korner: In this case, its Youth Co-op and Bellefonte Tacolcy....
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Mr. Alfano: Commissioner Carollo - Commissioner, would you believe that the
federal law says that lip to 10 percent of the participants in all the programs
in the service delivery area, receiving assistance under this part, may be
individuals who are not economically disadvantaged if such individuals have
encountered barriers to employment. This next sentence is the one that really
will answer your question - Such individuals may include, bait are not limited
to, those who have limited English language proficiency or are displaced
homemakers, school dropouts, teenage parents, handicapped, older workers,
veterans, offenders, alcoholics, or addicts. So that the federal government
does recognize that under this program, they do want the participation - or
that they are willing to have these persons who have....
Mr. Carollo: I would hope that the individuals that wrote this law would
someday read "The Fall and Rise of the Roman Empire", maybe they wouid get a
little glimpse at what our future is going to be like.
Mr. Plummer: What... where are these kids going to be employed? We know the
ones for the City are going to be put to work in the City. Where are the
others going to be put to work?
Mr. Alfano: The 4,700 kids that we are going to be serving will be in public
_ sector a work sites - maybe the City of Miami, maybe Metropolitan Dade County,
maybe the Chamber of Commerce, maybe the Red Cross. In other words, all of
the public... all of the work sites must be public sector work sites and,
obviously, they are going to be working all over the county; as a matter of
fact in two counties, Dade and Monroe counties.
_ Mr. Plummer: Well, I feel that this thing ought to be brought up this
_ afternoon. It was Commissioner Dawkins who brought forth the request for the
testing, and his remarks should be a part of the record. I would move that
this be deferred to the afternoon session when Commissioner Dawkins returns.
Mayor Suarez: Let's table it for the afternoon session. I don't think that
you need to come for the afternoon session. Does anyone have any problem with
substance of the participation?
Mr. Plummer: The substance, no. But the substance is white powder, I do have
a problem with.
Mayor Suarez: Shouldn't have used that word. OK, we'll take it all up
together in the afternoon. I don't know....
Mr. Alfano: I'll be happy to be here, however, it will have to be after 4:00
p.m..
Mr. Carollo: Whom in government approved the wordage of this particular law?
Mr. Alfano: Congress.
Mr. Carollo: Yeah, but what I'm saying - whom. Eventually all of these laws
are passed by Congress, and I'm sure a lot of them pass the way they do
through this Commission that so many things pass that, many times, you don't
read all the fine print. I'm saying, who, in government were the people
responsible in placing the type of wordage that has been read to me now?
Mr. Alfano: I would assume that it's the U.S. Department of Labor.
Mr. Plummer: Let me ask this question. If we are accepting a grant for this
amount of money, the two grants that we're to award is in item 36, which total
about $270,000. Where is the rest of the money going?
Francena Brooks: The bulk of the money is actually for the participant wages;
about $500,000 of that. While its part of the grant, we do not actually
handle that part of the money. The....
Mr. Plummer: No, excuse me. Besides the $270,000 identified to both Youth
Co-op and to Tacolcy, where is the rest of the money going? The grant is for
nine hundred and some thousand dollars.
Ms. Brooks: Right.
Mr. Plummer: Now where is the other $600,000 going?
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Ms. Brooks: OK, five hundred some thousand of it goes to participant. wages -
the participants.
Mr. Plummer: I'm assum... what is the purpose of the grants as far as Tacolcy
and, ah... and Youth Co-op?
Ms. Brooks: That's for them to counsel and to place the participants at the
various work sites. To do the actual ground work for that.
Mr. Plummer: $270,000! How much per participant?
Ms. Brooks: It comes out to a cost of about $333 per participant.
Mr. Carollo: Well, as I understood what our attorney read to us, the
stipulation for addicts only refers to 10 percent, so I would gather that if
we only have to hire tip to 10 percent coke -heads. Is that correct then - on
what the law states, Mr. Attorney, Bob?
Mr. Clark: Commissioner, it just says that, if an addict is not. economically
disadvantaged, they may participate up to 10 percent. I don't think there is
a limit on a rich - not a rich, I guess a poor addict. Tile 10 percent is an
addict who is not economically disadvantaged. There is no limitation on an
addict who is economically disadvantaged.
Mr. Carollo: OK, so that answers my misconception of what you read to me.
Mr. Plummer: Of the 824, how many are going to go to work for the City?
Ms. Brooks: About 440.
Mr. Plummer: OK. If this grant is totally coming to the City of Miami, why
aren't all 824 working for the City of Miami?
Ms. Brooks: They could have been placed in - or they could be, however, in
working with different work sites, its not required that they all be placed
within City departments.
Mr. Plummer: How about cleaning up this City?
Ms. Brooks: That's one project we're working on.
Mr. Plummer: No, no, no. I'm saying that you could take these other 400
kids, and put them up cleaning vacant lots or things of that nature. Why are
we allowing them to go outside and do other works when we have a tremendous
need within the City, and we could use all of these young people?
Ms. Brooks: Well, we have established several potential projects for
cleanup - in cleaning up our parks and our lots.
Mr. Plummer: You're missing my point.
Ms. Brooks: You mean the other vacant code enforcement lots?
Mr. Plummer: Why are we giving 400 of these to the outside sector when the
need is established in the City?
Ms. Brooks: Well, our department's requested about 440 slots.
Mr. Plummer: What about the other 400 cleaning up the parks, and cleaning up
vacant lots, and getting this City clean?
Ms. Brooks: Yeah, we could do that. Yes, we could do that.
Mr. Plummer: Well, I still think that we ought to wait for Commissioner
k Dawkins. Out of respect to his comments this morning, you know, I just say
that I think that we ought to wait for him. What are these participants being
paid hourly?
Ms. Brooks: $3.35.
Mr. Plummer: $3.35 and there's 824 of them?
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Ms. Brooks: Yes.
Mr. Plummer: And how much is the P.I.C. getting out of this money?
Unidentifiable respondent: P.I.C.?
Mr. Plummer: Yeah, administration wise.
Mr. Alfano: It will be something in the neighborhood of 11 percent
for the —
total funding, maybe in the neighborhood of about $400,000.
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Mr. Plummer: So the P.I.C.or their administrative procedure, is
getting
$400,000 out of the total grant.
Mr. Alfano: That's correct.
Mr. Plummer: And how much is the total grant?
Mr. Alfano: It is, in terms of new money, we have four million one
hundred
thousand dollars, I would say its very close to five million
dollars,
commissioner.
Mr. Plummer: Five million. }low much is Dade County getting?
Mr. Alfano: Dade County is getting, if my memory is correct, about two
hundred additional slots over and above the number of slots....
Mr. Plummer: Dollars - dollars. Out of the five million, how much
is Dade
County getting?
Mr. Alfano: Unfortunately, I don't have the data here with me.
Mr. Plummer: Would you bring it back with you this afternoon?
Mr. Alfano: I'll be happy to do that.
Mr. Plummer: The question really is, how come the City, if it's a five _
million dollar grant, how come the City is only getting a million, and where
is the rest of it going?
Mr. Alfano: The rest of it is going to about fifteen different
program
operators.
Mr. Plummer: Why? I mean, you know, the City of Miami is more than 20
percent. The need is more than 20 percent. Why isn't the City getting a
bigger allocation?
Mr. Alfano: The way we prepare funding decisions, and both the PIC and the
consortium approve funding decisions, is based on prior performance. It has
been established that the City of Miami has been very successful in running
programs with an allocation of about 800-850 slots. And, based on this, we
prepare the funding recommendations with which we are adopted. In terms of
total population, Commissioner, remember that we are dealing with a total
population base of about a million eight hundred thousand people, including
two counties.
Mr. Plummer: OK, I'd just like to see the breakdown when you come back.
Mr. Alfano: I'll be happy to make that available.
Mr. Plummer: Thank you, sir.
Mayor Suarez: Item is tabled until this afternoon.
Mr. Plummer: Right.
NOTE FOR THE RECORD: ITEM 36 WAS DEFERRED TO THE AFTERNOON.
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25. SECOND READING ORDINANCE: ESTABLISH NEW REVENUE FUND: "RECREATION
PROGRAMS FOR THE MENTALLY RETARDED - CONSOLIDATED"; ACCEPT GRANT AWARDS
AND ENTER INTO CONTRACTS
Mayor Suarez: Item thirty-seven. Second reading.
Mr. Odio: To establish a revenue fund for mentally retarded people.
Mr. Plummer: Where is the monies coming from?
Mr. Odio: The state - federal and state funds.
Mr. Plummer: The total three twenty four?
Mr. Odio: Yes, sir.
Mr. Plummer: I so move.
Ms. Kennedy: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded - second reading of the ordinance. Any
discussion? Call the roll.
Mr. Odio: Wait - I want to clarify....
Mayor Suarez: Read the ordinance.
Mr. Odio: Can I clarify? I don't want....
Mayor Suarez: Yes. Mr. City Manager.
Mr. Odio: We are putting $45,000 from city matching funds for grants, and
$53,507 in carry over fund balance from recreation programs from the years
'83 - '86.
Mr. Plummer: So then, we're putting up near $100,000.
Mr. Odio: Ninety-eight... yeah, ninety-eight thousand.
Ms. Dougherty: Was there a motion and a second?
Mr. Odio: And this will provide recreation, education, development training
and transportation for a minimum of 100 retarded individuals.
Mayor Suarez: Call the roll
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN ORDINANCE ESTABLISHING A NEW SPECIAL REVENUE FUND
ENTITLED: "RECREATION PROGRAMS FOR THE MENTALLY
RETARDED - CONSOLIDATED", AND APPROPRIATING FUNDS FOR
THE OPERATION OF SAME IN THE AMOUNT OF $324,310,
CONSISTING OF $225,803 IN FEDERAL AND STATE FUNDS TO
BE RECEIVED FROM THE STATE OF FLORIDA, DEPARTMENT OF
HEALTH AND REHABILITATIVE SERVICES; $45,000 FROM
FISCAL YEAR 1986-87 SPECIAL PROGRAMS AND ACCOUNTS,
MATCHING FUNDS FOR GRANTS; AND $53,507 FROM THE
CARRYOVER FUND BALANCE FROM THE RECREATION PROGRAMS
COVERING FISCAL YEARS 1983 THROUGH 1986; AUTHORIZING
THE CITY MANAGER TO ACCEPT THE GRANT AWARD AND TO
ENTER INTO THE NECESSARY CONTRACT(S) AND/OR
AGREEMENT(S), IN A FORM ACCEPTABLE TO THE CITY
ATTORNEY, FOR THE ACCEPTANCE OF THE GRANT' CONTAINING
A REPEALER PROVISION AND A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.
Passed on its first reading by title at the meeting of April 9, 1987, was
taken up for its second and final reading by title and adoption. On motion of
Commissioner Plummer, seconded by Commissioner Kennedy, the Ordinance was
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thereupon given its second and final reading by title and passed and adopted
by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
THE ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO. 10269.
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and
announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commission and
to the public.
26. SECOND READING ORDINANCE: PROVIDE STAGGERED TERMS FOR MEMBERS OF SPORTS
AND EXHIBITION AUTHORITY BOARD
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Ms. Kennedy: Move thirty-eight.
Mayor Suarez: Item 38 has been moved.
Mr. Plummer: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Seconded. Any discussion? Read the ordinance. Call the roll.
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SUBSECTION (C) OF SECTION 52.6-3
OF THE CODE OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA, AS AMENDED,
BY PROVIDING STAGGERED TERMS OF OFFICE FOR THE VOTING
MEMBERS OF THE MIAMI SPORTS AND EXHIBITION AUTHORITY;
CONTAINING A REPEALER PROVISION AND A SEVERABILITY
CLAUSE.
Passed on its first reading by title at the meeting of April 9, 1987, was
taken up for its second and final reading by title and adoption. On motion of
Commissioner Kennedy, seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the ordinance was
thereupon given its second and final reading by title and passed and adopted
by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
THE ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO..10270.
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and
announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commission and
to the public.
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27. FIRST READING ORDINANCE: REQUIRE THAT CHANGES IN ETHNIC STATUS BE
ESTABLISHED AT TI14E OF APPLICATION FOR ALL CIVIL SERVICE COMPETITIVE
EXAMINATIONS
Mayor Suarez: Item thirty-nine.
Mr. Odio: This is amending the civil service rules and regulations by
requiring that changes in ethnic status be made prior to the establishment of
a competitive register at the time of application for all competitive
examinations.
Mr. Plummer: What does that really mean?
Mr. Odio: Well, I can give you an example....
Mayor Suarez: Those are for the people that you- want to put one in one
category and then change their minds and want to be put into another category.
Mr. Odio: That if you... either you are Cuban or black you state that before
you decide... establish the register.
Mr. Plummer: But, that's an elective that they take?
Mr. Odio: They can take that, but they must declare it before.
Mr. Plummer: Before they taken an exam?
Mr. Odio: Not after they see where they place.
Ms. Kennedy: They have to... as a member of the civil service... as a former
member of the civil service board, I have seen this over and over, so I move
this item, yes. It's a great idea.
Mr. Plummer: They choose which is most advantageous.
Ms. Kennedy: Exactly.
Mr. Plummer: This way, they got to do it prior.
Ms. Kennedy: Prior.
Mr. Plummer: So moved.
Ms. Kennedy: I did.
Mr. Plummer: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Moved. Seconded. Any discussion? Read the ordinance. Call
the roll.
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTION 40-63 OF THE CODE OF THE
CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA, AS AMENDED ENTITLED
"ADDITIONAL CERTIFICATION", BY ADDING A NEW PARAGRAPH
TO THE EXISTING SUBSECTION (e), ENTITLED "MANNER OF
CERTIFICATION OF ELIGIBLES FOR APPOINTMENT", REQUIRING
THAT CHANGES IN ETHNIC STATUS BE ESTABLISHED AT THE
TIME OF APPLICATION FOR ALL COMPETITIVE EXAMINATIONS;
CONTAINING A REPEALER PROVISION AND A SEVERABILITY
CLAUSE.
Was introduced by Commissioner Kennedy and seconded by Commissioner
Plummer and passed on its first reading by title by the following vote-
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AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and
announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commission and
to the public.
28. FIRST READING ORDINANCE: RECLASSIFY FUNDING SOURCES FOR "AFFORDABLE
RENTAL HOUSING PROGRAM"
Mayor Suarez: Item forty.
Mr. Odio: This is reclassifying funding sources for the affordable rental
housing program by decreasing the existing appropriation of '76 housing
general obligation bonds by $2,555,847 and appropriating same from interest
earned on 176 housing general obligation bonds to correct previous
appropriations which over appropriated the actual proceeds of the '76 housing
GO bonds. And the....
Mr. Plummer: Move it.
Mayor Suarez: Entertain a motion on it. Moved.
Ms. Kennedy: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Seconded. Any discussion? Read the ordinance. Call the roll.
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN ORDINANCE A14ENDING SECTION 1 OF ORDINANCE NO.
10187, AS AMENDED, ADOPTED DECEMBER 11, 1986, THE
CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT APPROPRIATIONS ORDINANCE, BY
RECLASSIFYING THE FUNDING SOURCES FOR THE PROJECT
ENTITLED "AFFORDABLE RENTAL HOUSING PROGRAM", PROJECT
321024, BY DECREASING THE EXISTING APPROPRIATION OF
1976 HOUSING GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS BY THE AMOUNT OF
$2,555,847 AND BY APPROPRIATING THIS SAME AMOUNT FROM
INTEREST EARNED ON 1976 HOUSING GENERAL OBLIGATION
BONDS; CONTAINING REPEALER PROVISION AND A
SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.
Was introduced by Commissioner Plumme: and seconded by Commissioner
Kennedy and passed on its first reading by title by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and
announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commission and
to the public.
NOTE FOR THE RECORD: ITEMS 42, 43, AND 44 WERE DEFERRED UNTIL THE AFTERNOON.
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29. FIRST READING ORDINANCE: ESTABLISH NEW PROJECT: "HOUSING PROGRAMS
ADMINISTRATION" AND APPROPRIATE FUNDS FOR SAME
Mayor Suarez: We have items forty....
Mr. Odio: forty-one.
Ms. Kennedy: Forty-one.
Mayor Suarez: five?
Mr. Odio: Forty-one is a ....
Mayor Suarez: I'm sorry, forty-one.
Mr. Odio: Establishing a capital improvement project entitled Housing
Programs Administration and appropriating funds in the amount of $500,000 in
interest income from the '76 housing general obligations bonds for its
operation. The housing conservation and development agency is responsible for
administration and administrating a number of federal funded and non federal
funded housing programs and activities which do not provide funding for
program administration. This money will be used to fund a cost associated
with the administration of this programs, in furtherance of the City's housing
improvement and strategy, which is geared to addressing the housing needs....
Mayor Suarez: Where did the money come from? Is this interest on the '76
housing bonds?
Mr. Odio: Interest earned. Yes, it is, sir. Interest earned.
Mayor Suarez: How much do we have altogether and how much.... we're
allocating $500,00, how much do we have altogether?
Mr. Odio: Ah, I believe... wasn't there where... we allocated two million
five -fifty.. .
Mr. Odio: Tell him the total amount on the interest.
Mr. Jerry Gereaux: We have... first of all, let me say that this $500,00, Mr.
Mayor, was approved in the last year's housing agency budget. This is a
bookkeeping item. As far as the balances that we have available in an account
number called Affordable Rental Housing, which is really a misnomer, we have
about $2,300,000.
Ms. Kennedy: I move it.
Mayor Suarez: Moved. Second, Commissioner?
Mr. Carollo: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Seconded. One last clarification. There's no new personnel or
no new anything being done by this; this is a bookkeeping item, right?
Change...
Mr. Gereaux: No, not by this. This is a bookkeeping item for the last year's
budget.
Mayor Suarez: Nobody's salary is being increased or anything like that.
Mr. Gereaux: No.
Mayor Suarez: Call the roll.
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AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTION 1 OF ORDINANCE NO. 10187
ADOPTED DECEMBER 11, 1986, THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT
APPROPRIATIONS ORDINANCE, BY ESTABLISHING A NEW
CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT ENTITLED: "ROUSING
PROGRAMS ADMINISTRATION", PROJECT NO. 321035, AND BY
APPROPRIATING FUNDS IN THE AMOUNT OF FIVE HUNDRED
THOUSAND DOLLARS ($500,000) FROM 1976 HOUSING GENERAL
OBLIGATION BONDS -INTEREST, FOR THE PURPOSE OF FUNDING
ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS AND EXPENSES ASSOCIATED WITH THE
PLANNING, IMPLEMENTATION AND ADMINISTRATION OF NEW
HOUSING DEVELOPMENT AND OTHER SPECIAL HOUSING PROGRAMS
ADMINISTERED BY THE HOUSING CONSERVATION AND
DEVELOPMENT AGENCY IN FURTHERANCE OF TIME CITY'S
HOUSING IMPROVEMENT STRATEGY; CONTAINING A REPEALER
PROVISION AND A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.
Was introduced by Commissioner Kennedy and seconded by Commissioner
Carollo and passed on its first reading by title by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and
announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commission and
to the public.
NOTE FOR THE RECORD: ITEMS 45, 46, 47, 48, 49, AND 50 WERE DEFERRED TO THE
AFTERNOON.
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30. AUTHORIZE INTERVIEW OF THREE COMMUNITY BASED NOT -FOR -PROFIT CORPORATIONS
FOR MANAGEMENT SERVICES AT BAYFRONT PARK (See label #48)
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Ms. Kennedy: I move fifty-one.
Mr. Odio: Fifty-one is authorize... yeah, OK.
Mayor Suarez: What about fifty?
Mr. Odio: Fifty, I would like Commissioner Dawkins to be present to since it
is the north district substation, and he also had some concerns of the...
Mayor Suarez: He has concerns? OK, item fifty-one.
Ms. Kennedy: Move it.
Mr. Carollo: Is there any discussion on fifty-one?
Ms. Kennedy: Do you second?
Mr. Carollo: I'm seconding it, but is there any discussion?
Mayor Suarez: No. Moved and seconded. Any discussion?
Mr. Carollo: For the people that ------ it.
Ms. Kennedy: This is to allow the city manager to interview three different
not -for -profit corporations.
Mr. Carollo: Yeah, but, I'm saying the people in the board again that picked
the three corporations that the manager's going to vote upon.
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Ms. Dougherty: Manager.
Mr. Odio: Well, I would have to go out and find the three groups. One of the
three groups will be the...
Ms. Kennedy: The one recommended.
Mr. Odio: ... the one recommended before by this board which is a trust, what
do they call that?
Ms. Kennedy: Bayfront Park Management Trust.
Mr. Odio: Bayfront Park Management Trust.
Mr. Carollo: Well, I would suggest that you contact people like Tina Hills,
that were very much....
Mr. Odio: Well, she's part of that group.
Ms. Kennedy: Tina's part of this....
Mr. Carollo: ... interested, Maurice Ferre, Dan Paul, and you know people
like that....
Mr. Odio: They're all part of that group.
Mr. Carollo: Oh, OK.
Ms. Kennedy: No, not Dan Paul, but....
Mr. Carollo: Not Dan Paul?
Mr. Odio: Not Dan Paul, but....
Mr. Carollo: OK.
Ms. Kennedy: Tina is, and so is Maurice.
Mr. Carollo: All right.
Ms. Kennedy: No, you're right, Dan Paul is part of the group.
Mayor Suarez: We're not making any determination as to who is going to do it
right now...
Mr. Odio: No, sir.
Mayor Suarez: ... nor how the membership is going to be chosen, and if this
Commission's going to have....
Mr. Odio: No, well, no....
Mayor Suarez: ... a say as to that.
Mr. Odio: No, let me explain. This has nothing to do with membership of the
trust.
Mayor Suarez: Right.
Mr. Odio: It has to do with selecting three groups, in other words, two
professional companies that would run this park; and the trust can be counted
as a professional company.
Mayor Suarez: The final approval will have to come back to the Commissioners.
Mr. Odio: Oh no, I have to come back to you....
Mayor Suarez: With a recommendation. OK.
Mr. Odio: ...with a recommendation.
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Mr. Carollo: Yeah, well we could approve it or riot approve it.
Ms. Kennedy: Let the record reflect that Dan Paul is a member of that team.
Mr. Carollo: Dan Paul is?
Ms. Kennedy: Yes.
Mr. Carollo: Oh, oh. He'll bring out the measuring tape against you this
time.
Mayor Suarez: Call the roll.
Mr. Carollo: Go ahead.
Mayor Suarez: Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Kennedy, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 87-441
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO INTERVIEW
THREE COMMUNITY BASED NOT -FOR -PROFIT CORPORATIONS TO
OBTAIN INFORMATION FROM SAID CORPORATIONS RELATING TO
THEIR QUALIFICATIONS, EXPERIENCE, AND PROPOSED FEES FOR
PROVIDING MANAGEMENT SERVICES AT BAYFRONT PARK.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here
and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Carollo, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
NOTE FOR THE RECORD: ITEMS 52 AND 53 WERE TEMPORARILY DEFERRED.
31. APPOINT WALTER B. MARTINEZ TO THE LATIN QUARTER REVIEW BOARD (See label
#50)
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Mr. Carollo: Fifty-four, it's mine, I'll pick Walter Martinez.
Mayor Suarez: Commissioner Carollo nominates Walter Martinez on fifty-four.
I have it in the form of a motion, do we have a second?
Ms. Kennedy: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Seconded.
Mr. Odio: The colonel.
Ms. Dougherty: Is that the colonel?
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Sergio Rodriguez: No, its not Walter Martinez, chief.
Mr. Odio: There is another one?
Mr. Rodriguez: No, he's an architect.
Mr. Odio: Oh, oh.
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Mr. Carollo: 1 don't have any problems with the ►lerald editorials attacking
anybody.
Mr. Odio: No, sir.
Mayor Suarez: Which Walter Martinez is it? Is it tile....
Mr. Carollo: I took a lead from the chief and you, you know.
Mr. Rodriguez: He's an architect.
Mayor Suarez: Not the assistant chief, OK.
Mr. Carollo: Walter P. Martinez... Walter B. Martinez.
Ms. Kennedy: Fifty-four. Are they all Joe's appointments?
Mayor Suarez: Whose appointment are they?
Ms. Kennedy: Are they all yours....
Mr. Odio: Commissioner Carollo's.
Mr. Rodriguez: Both of them.
Mr. Odio: All of them.
Mayor Suarez: Do you have another one?
Mr. Odio: He's got another one, an alternate.
Mr. Carollo: Who were the other people that applied?
Mr. Rodriguez: The only other person that applied is Charles Pereira.
Mr. Carollo: OK, now, did Lopez Borges get appointed to that?
Mr. Rodriguez: No, he didn't apply.
Mr. Carollo: Was he informed?
Mr. Rodriguez: Yeah. We informed him.
Mr. Carollo: OK, you informed him; he did not apply. OK, then I would rather
hold off to make that appointment.
Mayor Suarez: We have a motion on the one....
Mr. Carollo Do we have to advertise again or not?
Mr. Rodriguez: I believe we have to advertise again.
Mr. Carollo: OK, then, why don't you.
Mayor Suarez: We have an appointment, I mean a nomination on one appointment
of Walter Martinez. Call the roll on that. We have a second, right?
Ms. Kennedy: Yes, I did.
Mayor Suarez: Call the roll.
NOTE FOR THE RECORD: M-87-442 APPOINTED WALTER B. MARTINEZ TO THE LATIN
QUARTER REVIEW BOARD. THIS APPOINTMENT IS INCORPORATED IN R-87-458. (MR.
MARTINEZ WAS NOMINATED BY COMMISSIONER CAROLLO.)
NOTE FOR THE RECORD: ITEMS 55, 56 AND 57 WERE DEFERRED TO THE AFTERNOON.
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32. PROCLAMATION OF HOME SHOW DAYS.
Mayor Suarez: Commissioners, as long as you're here. Commissioner Carollo.
Mr. Carollo: Yeah.
Mayor Suarez: We have a proclamation that was left over from the morning, I'm
sorry about that - you've been waiting patiently all morning, and it reads as
follows: Whereas as the American dramatist, Shannon Pollock, once said, "Home
is the most popular and would be the most enduring of all earthly
establishments" (I certainly agree with that). Whereas the South Florida Home
Show will celebrate its Sixth Annual Presentation in our City, April 30 - May
5, 1987, (I think that's the most popular of all the activities over there at
Dinner Key, isn't it?) Whereas, home products will be displayed in this Home
Show where 250 exhibitors and 600 booths will bring the latest in home
furniture, utensils, fixtures, and relative paraphernalia Now, therefore, I
Xavier L. Suarez, joined by this Commission, do hereby proclaim April 30th -
May 5th, 1987, as Sixth Annual South Florida Home Show Days.
THEREUPON THE CITY COMMISSION WENT INTO RECESS AT
12:01 P.M. AND RECONVENED AT 2:49 P.M., WITH ALL
MEMBERS OF THE CITY COMMISSION FOUND TO BE PRESENT
EXCEPT COMMISSIONER CAROLLO.
33. CLOSE STREETS FOR PARADE BY RENOVACION CARISMATICA CATOLICA HISPANA (See
label #21)
Mayor Suarez: Want to take up quickly your item? What number is it?
Inaudible response here.
Mayor Suarez: Thirty. Item thirty.
Mr. Odio: I will... we recommend... for... ah, well... we'll work with them
and they will have to agree....
Mayor Suarez: OK, this is the parade that has been narrowed down to....
Mr. Odio: ...to pay whatever....
Mayor Suarez: ... three hours.
Mr. Odio: ... police officers....
Mr. Plummer: Fully understood that it is only be 7:00-10:00 at night, and
that we are approving it, and that the cost factors have been explained and
understood. I move item thirty.
Ms. Kennedy: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded. Any further discussion? Call the roll.
Mr. Dawkins: What is thirty?
Mayor Suarez: That's the parade by the Catholic Charismatic....
Mr. Plummer: They're going to go down and pray for you.
Mayor Suarez: ... procession.
Mr. Dawkins (off mike): That's with or without the pope?
Unidentifiable responses: Without.
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Ms. Kennedy: Most importantly, you pray for us.
Mr. Plummer: Father, is it true I heard this morning that the pope is not
coming to Miami because the Miami Herald is going to send investigators to
follow him? Is that true?
Mayor Suarez: Please - please. Call the roll before you ask any more
questions like that.
Mr. Odio: Mr. Mayor, we need item thirty-two, if you can get back to it.
Mayor Suarez: Yes, call the roll on thirty.
Mr. Plummer: We've also got a problem with twenty.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 87-443
A RESOLUTION CONCERNING A PARADE TO BE CONDUCTED BY
RENOVACION CARISMATICA CATOLICA HISPANA ON MAY 23, 1987,
PROVIDING FOR THE CLOSURE OF DESIGNATED STREETS TO THROUGH
VEHICULAR TRAFFIC SUBJECT TO THE ISSUANCE OF PERMITS BY
THE DEPARTMENTS OF POLICE AND FIRE, RESCUE AND INSPECTION
SERVICES; CONDITIONED UPON THE ORGANIZERS PAYING FOR THE
NECESSARY COSTS OF CITY SERVICES ASSOCIATED WITH SAID
EVENT AND THE REQUIREMENT THAT THE CITY WILL BE INSURED
AGAINST ANY POTENTIAL LIABILITY.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here
and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Kennedy, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES:
ABSENT:
None.
Commissioner Joe Carollo
34.(A) RECONSIDERATION OF THE CONSENT AGENDA; (See label #7)
34.(B) READOPTION OF THE CONSENT AGENDA MINUS ITEM 20, WHICH WAS MODIFIED BY
CONSIDERING AN EXCHANGE OF THE WATSON BUILDING FOR THE U.S. NAVAL
RESERVE CENTER (See label #15)
Mayor Suarez: OK, before we take up thirty-two, we're going to give
Commissioner Dawkins a couple of minutes. What is thirty-two?
Mr. Plummer: Item twenty....
Mayor Suarez: I'm sorry, twenty.
Mr. Plummer: ... I understand. How do you want to do that to make it legal?
We've got to withdraw... with... huh?
Ms. Dougherty: Reconsider the consent agenda and take it...
Mr. Plummer: I move that we reconsider the consent agenda.
Mayor Suarez: Item number twenty of the consent agenda.
Mr. Plummer: We've got to do this legally - for the Watson Building downtown.
We included it originally in the consent, so I move that we with...
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Mayor Suarez: Oh, because we didn't do what was on the consent agenda, see,
that's what you didn't explain to me.
Mr. Plummer: Right - exactly.
Mayor Suarez: OK, motion to reconsider item twenty...
Ms. Kennedy: What are we doing?
Mayor Suarez: ... so we could do legally what we tried to do.
Mr. Plummer: No, the... no, reconsider the consent agenda.
Mayor Suarez: The first time we passed it, as part of the consent agenda,
right.
Mr. Plummer: Right.
Mayor Suarez: Item twenty. I'll entertain a motion to that effect You
moved it, seconded. Any discussion? Call the roll.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved
its adoption:
MOTION NO. 87-444
A MOTION RECONSIDERING PREVIOUSLY TAKEN VOTE ON THE
_ CONSENT AGENDA TO OPEN DISCUSSION ON ITEM 20, IN
CONNECTION WITH AUTHORIZED ISSUANCE OF A REQUEST FOR
PROPOSALS FOR THE SALE OF THE WATSON BUILDING.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Kennedy, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
(NOTE FOR THE RECORD: During the roll call, the following comment was made:
Mr. Dawkins: I want to reconsider thirty-four.)
Mr. Plummer: Now, I...
Mayor Suarez: We've done thirty. You're OK with thirty. You don't have any
problem with that?
Mr. Plummer: Wait a minute... don't, don't....
Mr. Dawkins: Thirty.
Mayor Suarez: They're not too sure because you asked to... we voted on it,
but I just want to clarify you got no problem on it - the parade, the
procession.
Mr. Dawkins: Oh no, I got no problem.
Mayor Suarez: All right, you're gone.
Ms. Kennedy: Good luck.
Mr. Plummer: Now I'm....
Mayor Suarez: God bless you. God bless us.
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Mr. Plummer: Now I move... now I move that we approve the consent agenda,
less item twenty as modified. Is that correct?
Mr. Foeman: Yes, sir, it is.
Mayor Suarez: Right.
Mr. Plummer: Since item twenty has already been passed in another form.
Mr. Foeman: Yes, it has.
Mr. Plummer: I move that we approve the consent agenda, minus item twenty, as
modified.
Ms. Kennedy: I second.
Mayor Suarez: So moved. Seconded. Any discussion? Call the roll. That's
only to straighten up what we didn't do right in the first place.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved
its adoption:
MOTION NO. 87-445
A MOTION APPROVING THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PREVIOUSLY PASSED
WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ITEM 20 WHICH WAS AMENDED AND
ADOPTED AS RESOLUTION 87-435.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Kennedy, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
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35. DISCUSSION AND TEMPORARY DEFERRAL OF PROPOSED EMERGENCY ORDINANCE TO
ISSUE GENERAL OBLIGATION REFUNDING BONDS (See label #56) _
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Mr. Plummer: Now where are we?
Mayor Suarez: Thirty-two.
Ms. Kennedy: Moving right along.
Mr. Plummer: Thirty-two.
Mayor Suarez: Emergency ordinance.
Mr. Dawkins: The only thing I got to do... where is thirty-two?
Mr. Plummer: What do you mean, a replacement?
Inaudible comments by off mike male speaker.
Mr. Dawkins: Some blanks to fill in or some blanks you've already filled in.
Mr. Carlos Garcia; Blanks to be filled in, yes.
Mayor Suarez: This is a refunding of our standing 40 million dollars
aggregate...
Mr. Dawkins: Mr. Mayor....
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Mayor Suarez: ... GO bonds, are they?
Mr. Dawkins: Mr. Mayor, I've said it before and I will say it no.:. Nowhere
in this document does it say what I keep saying over and over that, I want it
in wording and as law, that the banks that do not participate in the
Overtown/Park West projects be allowed to participate in any monetary things
of the city of Miami. And it's not in here.
Carlos Garcia: Mr. Commissioner, what we have here on the new ordinance, on
page two, you'll see the definition of bond raiser and escrow agent. In both
cases says that the agents are to be appointed by the city manager. The city
manager understands the intention of this Commission to appoint only those
banks that are dealing with southeast Overtown/Park West.
Mayor Suarez: To make sure lie understands, we'll build that into the motion
on it.
Mr. Dawkins: No, sir... I am not... I'm... I defer this, if you all don't
understand what the bell I'm saying, I'm going to help you. I defer this
until you put it in writing. I don't want you to come up and tell me nothing
about what I think of what you think, and what the manager thinks. You see,
everytime I tell you something, Carlos, something I don't want, I end up
seeing it and then you and the manager explain it to me. I cannot argue
because its not in writing. You all put it in writing and bring it back.
Mr. Garcia: Mr. Commissioner, if you move... if you pass it the way it is,
we'll incorporate that language into the ordinance.
Mr. Dawkins: How many times have I heard that, sir?
Mr. Garcia: Well....
Mr. Dawkins: If I pass it as is, you will.
Mayor Suarez: How long does it take you... how long does it take you to come
up with the wording?
Mr. Dawkins: Where's Herb Bailey? Where's Herb Bailey?
Mayor Suarez: I thought we had the wording already from a prior resolution to
that effect.
Mr. Dawkins: That's right, we did. That's what I'm trying to say.
Mayor Suarez: We can just go ahead and add it in there.
Mr. Dawkins: I mean, why... no, why do we have to add it, Mr. Mayor? That's
my problem. We've already said what we wanted, why we wanted it, five members
of this Commission said put it in there, and when you get it, you don't have
it.
Mayor Suarez: Well, because the actual selection, I guess, he thought was
going to be done by the manager with that understanding. With that...
Mr. Garcia: This is language that... the bond counsel has come up with.
Mayor Suarez: Right.
Mr. Dawkins: OK, fine, OK, all right.
Mr. Garcia: We'll ask them to change that, and exactly put what the City
Commission desires.
Mr. Dawkins: I have no problems with Herb Bailey, with you, and the manager.
But, suppose we don't have the manager next week?
Mr. Garcia: Well, we'll change the language.
Mr. Dawkins: The manager have a heart attack, then they tell me about, the
other, next manager says, well, I don't know nothing about that; I didn't
agree to that.
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Mr. Garcia:
Commissioner. We'll change the
language and we'll bring it back
later on today
if that's...
Mr. Dawkins:
No...
Mr. Garcia:
We need to get this passed
and get, ready to go to market,
Commissioner.
Mr. Dawkins:
All right who... all right,
wait a minute, OK... who... all
right where...
you fill in the blanks; who you put fill in the blanks.
Mr. Garcia:
OK, that's the section that was
blank before, those two items on
page two...
Mr. Dawkins:
All right, who....
Mr. Garcia:
... the bond raiser and escrow agent definition.
Mr. Dawkins: Is who?
Mr. Garcia: We don't have anyone right at this time. It's just the escrow
agent and the bond raiser to be appointed by the city manager, along with the
criteria that the City Commission has chosen. Which is only those banks that
are dealing with the City in good faith in the southeast Overtown/Park West
project.
Mr. Dawkins: OK. You need this, Mr. Manager?
Mr. Garcia: Yes, yes, Commissioner.
Mayor Suarez: Because of the interest rates.
Mr. Dawkins: Huh - you need this.
Mr. Odio: They tell me that we need it because of the... we have to find the
right window....
Mr. Garcia: We need to be ready to go to market, so....
Mayor Suarez: The right opportunity, if you quit calling it window, we're not
going to know what you're talking about. The right opportunity for getting
the right interest rate, the lowest interest rate.
Mr. Dawkins: But why! But, but, why is it I sit here constantly and tell you
guys what to put in here....
Mr. Odio: Mr. - Mr. - Mr. Commissioner, you are 100 percent correct. He's
going to change that right now.
Mr. Garcia: We'll change that, but, right now the language that we have gives
you that flexibility, you know.
Mayor Suarez: We don't want the flexibility, though, we wanted the rigidity.
Mr. Odio: He don't want no flexibility.
Mr. Garcia: OK.
Mr. Dawkins: That's what I'm telling you, I don't want no flex... that's my
problem, I don't want you to have the flexibility. That's my damn problem
flexibility - flexibility - all the hell I hear. And when I tell you what I
want, you tell me you thought you had the flexibility to do it different. I
don't want no flexibility.
Mayor Suarez: Do you have any problem if we come up with the wording -
passing it with the correct wording?
Mr. Garcia: Commissioner, we'll get bond counsil to change the language
according to your wishes.
Mayor Suarez: All right, table it until you get the right language.
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Mr. Dawkins: No, no, no, he say he need it. I mean....
Mayor Suarez: No, but table it til....
Mr. Plummer: No, no, no, they can change it this afternoon, its one page.
Mayor Suarez: ... we get the language.
Mr. Odio: We'll bring it back this afternoon, Commissioner.
Mr. Dawkins: OK, thank you.
Mr. Garcia: Thank you.
Mayor Suarez: OK.
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36.(A) RECONSIDERATION OF EMERGENCY ORDINANCE PREVIOUSLY PASSED INCREASING
THE APPROPRIATIONS FOR "VIRGINIA KEY PARK DEVELOPMENT" AND "KENNEDY
PARK IMPROVEMENTS" (See label #23)
36.(B) READOPTION OF EMERGENCY ORDINANCE 10268 AS PREVIOUSLY PASSED
INCREASING THE APPROPRIATIONS FOR "VIRGINIA KEY PARK DEVELOPMENT" AND
"KENNEDY PARK IMPROVEMENTS" (See label #23)
Mr. Dawkins: Thirty-four I want to reconsider, please.
Mayor Suarez: Item thirty-four.
Mr. Plummer: Thirty-four.
Mr. Dawkins: Move to reconsider. Move to reconsider.
Mr. Plummer: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Seconded. Call the roll.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Dawkins, who moved
its adoption:
MOTION NO. 87-446
A MOTION RECONSIDERING PREVIOUSLY TAKEN VOTE ON ITEM 34 IN
CONNECTION WITH INCREASING THE APPROPRIATIONS FOR
IMPROVEMENTS TO VIRGINIA KEY PARK AND KENNEDY PARK. (NOTE:
Said Emergency Ordinance was readopted after Commission
discussion.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Mr. Dawkins: Mr. Manager, can somebody tell me how much money is left from
the 1972 parks and recreation general obligation bond funds, and why its left,
and what parks didn't receive what it was supposed to receive for us to have
this money left over.
Mr. Odio: Yes, sir, I'll bring it back to you.
Mr. Dawkins: Well, its already passed, I mean...
Mr. Odio: No, I....
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Mr. Dawkins: ... see I wasn't here. This passed with four -fifths.
Mr. Odio: No, this was passed, but I'll bring you the balance on that
parks....
Mr. Dawkins: See... see because...
Mr. Odio: There isn't much left.
Mr. Dawkins: ... if you got money left over...
Mr. Odio: There isn't that much.
Mr. Dawkins: ... there are some parks that you didn't do what parks for
people say do.
Mr. Odio: There is very few dollars left, believe me.
Mr. Dawkins: No, well how in the hell is there money left over then?
Mr. Odio: Very few. Let me find out exactly how much is left.
Mr. Dawkins: One of them I know is Hadley Park was sup... the parks for
people was supposed to put up a score... football scoreboard. And Gibson...
what Gibson Park was supposed to get out of this, Mrs. Marie... Adker?
Inaudible off mike response by unidentified female.
Mr. Odio: This is a different...
Mr. Dawkins: No, wait a minute now. OK. This says...
Mrs. Ann Marie Adker:... lighting and everything else
Mr. Dawkins: OK, listen to what you say here now. The amount of eight
thousand and eight thousand respectively from 1972 park and recreation general
obligation bond funds. This was passed in 1972. OK.
Mayor Suarez: OK, item thirty-four is pending. There's no money.
Mr. Odio: According to Mr. Garcia, this is it, that's the last dollars. Now
we're...
Mr. Dawkins: What are we on now?
Mayor Suarez: That's the last dollars. This is it. This is the end of
the...
Mr. Odio: This is the end of the dollars of the '72...
Mayor Suarez: ...park bonds.
Mr. Dawkins: All right. Well, OK, OK then go back and get for me the list of
things you promised parks and didn't do, OK? Like lighting in Gibson —
whatever it was in Clemente...
Mr. Odio: ... well, the lights that she's... I don't know what lights she's
talking about, but...
Mr. Dawkins: ... whatever at Shenendoah. No, no, no. Maybe... maybe its
none... maybe... maybe... hold it now... maybe its none.
Mr. Odio: ... because Gibson is fully lighted. OK.
Mr. Dawkins: Get me the list.
Mr. Odio: Yes, sir.
Mr. Dawkins: That's all, see?
Mr. Plummer (off mike): Where are we...
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Mr. Dawkins: Well, it passed this morning, I wasn't Here, so I just asked for
this.
Ms. Kennedy: It already passed.
Mr. Plummer (ofi mir._-): We've already reconsidered.
Mayor Suarez: But we voted to reconsider it.
Mr. Plummer: Now, do you... do you want to move...
Mayor Suarez: Do you have any problem with going ahead and making these
expenditures, particularly in view of the fact that they admitted to us this
morning that the monies were already spent, and we just have to pay for it,
right?
Mr. Dawkins: See, see.
Mr. Plummer: To finish the job.
Mayor Suarez: Otherwise it's going to be taken out of the city manager's
pocket, and Jack Eads, and a couple of other people, and Walter Golby's going
to have to pay for it.
Mr. Plummer: I think thats...
Mr. Dawkins: No, you can't blame the manager for this because the manager
wasn't the manager in '72 when the bonds was passed.
Mayor Suarez: That's right.
Mr. Plummer: No, but he was when the project was done.
Mr. Odio: I was happy then.
Mr. Dawkins: Well, since we passed it...
Mr. Plummer: Gee, I hate to see a man unhappy, I move that we...
Mayor Suarez: For everybody's information and, I think Commissioner Dawkins
has made it imminently clear, in fact it was his idea, we are putting together
a fund of about eight million dollars for improving Miami's parks, and I think
this time we're going to carefully monitor how it's spent, and make sure that
they're spent in the parks that need the most improvement. We're just in the
beginning of that process, are we not, Mr. City Manager? Jack?
Mr. Jack Eads: We have a... the administration has a program we'd like to
present to you individually, and then present at the Commission meeting.
Mayor Suarez: You've taken a lot of community input on that...
Ms. Kennedy: I was just going to ask.
Mayor Suarez: ... and reflected the Commission priorities that deal with
certain parks that we...
Mr. Eads: We hope we have...
Mr. Odio: I - I - I hope we have, but I think we need more input.
Mayor Suarez: OK.
Mr. Eads: ...that's why we want to do it with you individually, to make sure
we've done it.
Mayor Suarez: All right.
Ms. Kennedy: In fact, Jack, if you could see us even before you choose which
of the parks are going to be...
Mr. Eads: Yes ma'am.
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Ms. Kennedy: ... singled out.
Mr. Odio: I saw what they had yesterday and you need to see it.
Mayor Suarez: Right.
Mr. Odio: And...
Mr. Plummer: My understanding is that you're going to be bringing us...
Mayor Suarez: Well, we don't lose anything by a presentation. -
Mr. Plummer: ... a full, complete picture of where in each park and what is
going to be done. Is that correct?
Mr. Eads: Yes.
Mr. Odio: Yes.
Mr. Plummer: When are we going to have that?
Mr. Odio: It's ready.
Mr. Eads: We're ready to do that to you right now, we'll be scheduling it
with you individually.
Ms. Kennedy: Can I ask you then, how many parks are you talking about -
roughly?
Mr. Odio: Most of the inner - City parks. All of the inner - City parks...
specifically what I saw yesterday, parks that have ball fields, pools, and...
Mr. Eads: ... ball fields, courts, pools...
Mr. Odio: ... courts, will be fully renovated.
Mr. Eads: ... vita courses, Citywide.
Ms. Kennedy: Another thing I was thinking, Jack...
Mr. Eads: Yes ma'am.
Ms. Kennedy: ...i.f I may say so, is to choose a smaller number of parks where
the difference could be really seen.
Mr. Eads: I...
Ms. Kennedy: ... other than, you know, the parks are so in desperate need of
fixing up, that it just might be a hole in the park. If you choose a smaller
number of parks, you will really be able to see the difference more.
Mr. Eads: What we tried to do is...
Mr. Dawkins: Hold it, hold it, hold it right here. OK, hold it right here.
OK. This is the flexibility I'm talking about, I don't want, OK? Now, the
flexibility is that you don't do nothing in Bayfront Park until you identify
how you're going to spend eight million dollars in the inner... in the other
City parks. I'm tired of saying inner - City because I mean all the parks,
OK?
Ms. Kennedy: That's correct.
Mr. Dawkins: Now, now I agree with Rosario that there are certain parks that
need more than others. That's why I'm disturbed that you took so much money
and put in Bayfront Park, OK?
Ms. Kennedy: It's a different issue.
Mr. Dawkins: OK, see, no, it's the same damn issue.
Ms. Kennedy: No.
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Mr. Dawkins: Rosario - the issue is parks.
Ms. Kennedy: No.
Mayor Suarez: We resolved this once by saying that for every dollar we're
going to spend in one park, we're going to spend in the neighborhood parks so
why are we getting into it again?
Mr. Dawkins: Because I want to make sure that you don't spend one penny of
that sixteen million dollars in Bayfront Park until you start... till you
spend one dollar over there, because...
Mayor Suarez: That's why we need... that's why we need that...
Mr. Dawkins: ... so what's going to end up is, you going to spend eight
million dollars down in the Bayfront Park and you're going to need two million
more and you're going to take that from our other parks.
Mr. Plummer: No, that's not possible.
Ms. Kennedy: No... no.
Mayor Suarez: No...
Mr. Plummer: It's not possible because...
Ms. Kennedy: We are prohibited.
Mr. Plummer: ... no, I think you need to go back and review the resolution.
The resolution says you cannot spend any more in Bayfront Park than you spend
in the neighborhood parks.
Ms. Kennedy: That is correct.
Mr. Plummer: Dollar for dollar. And, Dawkins, you're the one that brought
that out.
Mayor Suarez: You know what's going to shock them in Bayfront Park is when we
tell them if this Commission reflects that consensus, that we simply cannot
finish the south end of that park, and they ought to just resod it, which
costs $100,000.
Ms. Kennedy: Mr. Mayor, I'm working on the funds for the south end of the
park, and it looks very promising.
Mayor Suarez: ... they come from...
Mr. Dawkins: See...
Mayor Suarez: ... your pocket and private sector...
Ms. Kennedy: And it will not come from the City.
Mr. Dawkins: All right, but you see, why would the private sector fund some
grass at a south end of a park, and I don't have nothing for children to play
on in the other parks.
Ms. Kennedy: Because it's not going to be grass.
Mr. Dawkins: Because everybody's going to beg them, and get on their knees to
them and then - oh, yes, we're going to... you know, give... if they give you
$100,000 for grass, they ought to give me $100,000 for play equipment in other
parks. If they're being fair.
Ms. Kennedy: It is not grass.
Mr. Odio: It's basic grass that we're talking about.
Mr. Dawkins: C'mon, give me a break.
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Mayor Suarez: All right. By the way, what I meant by the $100,000, is that
in lieu of $2.8 million dollars, which is what they really want to spend in
the south end of the park, but that's not a good idea to get into today
because we've never approved that.
Mr. Dawkins: And let me, let me, let me clear one thing - it's not that
anybody up here, including Rosario is anti -parks, OK, in other parks. But
it's just that... she... we've come into a situation that we don't know how to
deal with it and we've trying to address it the best way we can, that's all.
Isn't that right, Rosario?
Ms. Kennedy: That is right. We're working on it.
Mr. Dawkins: That's all. We're into a situation, and we're just trying to
address it the best way we know how.
Mayor Suarez: And we never see the end of the iceberg, which is the
expenditures for Bayfront Park, I mean it's, each time it's more and more and
more and more and then...
Mr. Dawkins: All you got to do is get rid of Noguchi and you will have the
end of the rope.
Mr. Odio: Commissioner, Mr. Dawkins...
Ms. Kennedy: Thank God, it's over.
Mr. Odio: ... we now have a handle on the total cost of the park. I can
assure you of that, and they will not be exceeded, and Commissioner Kennedy
_ knows that. She's been involved completely with that.
Mayor Suarez: Ok, I'll entertain a motion on thirty-four which was reopened
and now will be voted on, hopefully.
Ms. Kennedy: Move it.
Mr. Dawkins: Joe mov... Plummer moved it.
Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded. Call the roll.
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN EMERGENCY ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTION 1 OF ORDINANCE
NO. 10187, ADOPTED DECEMBER 11, 1986, THE CAPITAL
IMPROVEMENTS APPROPRIATIONS ORDINANCE, AS AMENDED,
INCREASING THE APPROPRIATIONS FOR TWO PROJECTS
ENTITLED "VIRGINIA KEY PARK DEVELOPMENT" PROJECT NO.
331044 AND "KENNEDY PARK IMPROVEMENTS" PROJECT NO.
331046 IN THE AMOUNTS OF $8,100 AND $8,000,
RESPECTIVELY, FROM 1972 PARKS AND RECREATION GENERAL
OBLIGATION BONDS FUNDS; CONTAINING A REPEALER
PROVISION AND A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.
_ Was introduced by Commissioner Kennedy and seconded by Commissioner
Plummer, for adoption as an emergency measure and dispensing with the
requirement of reading same on two separate days, which was agreed to by the
following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
Whereupon the Commission on motion of Commissioner Kennedy and seconded
by Commissioner Plummer, adopted said ordinance by the following vote-
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AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
SAID ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO. 10268.
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and
announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commission and
to the public.
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37. EMERGENCY ORDINANCE: ESTABLISH NEW REVENUE FUND: "SUMMER YOUTH
EMPLOYMENT AND TRAINING PROGRAM - 1987/JPTA 11-B" (See label #2 and 024)
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Mayor Suarez: Items 35, 36, and 37, we tabled for the afternoon although we
began the discussion because of your concern, Commissioner Dawkins, about the
testing for drugs of the young people who will be participating in these
programs.
Mr. Dawkins: That's thirty-five.
Mayor Suarez: Right, and 36 and 37 are related. We were told, apparently,
that, under federal regulations we cannot impose a mandatory drug testing, but
maybe we can try to do voluntary drug testing.
Mr. Dawkins: Oh no, we can do better than that. What, I mean... somebody
tell me who is in charge of the money for the summer work program? The City,
the County, the State, the Federal government - in Dade County.
Mr. Odio: The consortium. The consortium is.
Mr. Dawkins: The consortium ok?
Mr. Odio: And we... we have a vote in the consortium.
Mr. Dawkins: Ok.
Mr. Odio: This money will go to subcontractors.
Mr. Dawkins: Ok. Now... well...
Mr. Odio: If you chose to do that.
Mr. Dawkins: Well, see... nobody is going to do it, but I'm going to make a
motion here.
Mr. Plummer: No, no - that was not... there was no subcontractors involved as
far as our money. All of them were going to be used in - house.
Mr. Odio: No. But I mean... yes, we will give it to the Youth Co-op and
Belafonte Tacolcy.
Mr. Plummer: That's for counseling. Not for jobs.
Ms. Francena Brooks: That's to actually do the leg work in placing them....
Mr. Odio: To actually...
Ms. Brooks: ... but it's not the jobs themselves.
Mr. Plummer: That's to go out, induct them, to qualify them and put them to
work...
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Mr. Odio: No right.
Ms. Brooks: Right.
Mr. Plummer: ... at a cost of $333 per person.
Mr. Odio: Right.
Ms. Brooks: Right. Per slot.
Mr. Plummer: Right.
Mr. Castaneda (off mike): Do you want the eight hundred...
Mr. Plummer: Use them... everyone of them in-house. We'll clean every vacant
lot and every park in this City.
Mr. Dawkins: Ok. So you now... Madame City Attorney, I made... I asked this
morning that you bring back a resolution saying that any youngster that tested
positive for drugs could not work in the City of Miami. They say that's
illegal. Is that right?
Ms. Dougherty: Commissioner Dawkins, we researched the federal law, and the
federal law specifically provides that participants can be addicts,
alcoholics, and various other kinds of people.
Mr. Dawkins: Ok. Now, the City of Miami has a policy that all new hirees
with the City of Miami must be tested for drugs, and must test negatively. Is
that correct?
Ms. Dougherty: That is so, but these... these partici...
Mr. Dawkins: So now, if we were to accept this money, we are violating our
own policy. Am I right?
Ms. Dougherty: These participants are not City of Miami employees.
Mr. Dawkins: Well, what kind of... well whos emplo... who pay them? I mean,
where will the payroll go in... who will keep their time and make up the
payroll, etc.?
Ms. Dougherty: My understanding, it is Dade County.
Ms. Brooks: Yes, they will be paid through Dade County's payroll system.
Mr. Dawkins: All right, well let Dade County hire them. I mean, the
youngsters... the money is not going back, nobody will go to waste. So let
Dade... I mean... I'm going to make my statement and be finished. I am tired
of rewarding youngsters for doing wrong, and not rewarding the youngsters who
do right.
(Applause)
Mr. Dawkins: Now, if you're telling me that I have got to hire addicts, I've
got to hire junkies, and drunkards, and what have you over my youngsters who
are doing well, then I say, let them have the money. That's me.
Ms. Brooks: Commissioner, there was a proposal this morning that the testing
be voluntary.
Mr. Dawkins: Fine, I would love that. Ok, I have no problem with how you do
it, but I want the message to get out there in the community that the City of
Miami will not hire anybody who experiments, who plays with, or who deals in
drugs. And there is no better place to start than with these 9th and loth...
these fifteen year olds that we've bringing into the work force.
Ms. Dougherty: Right.
Mr. Dawkins: Where else can we start?
Ms. Kennedy: I agree.
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Mr. Dawkins: And then you're goii;i, to tell me that the federal government
tells me that I've got to hire an addict? No, I don't have to. They have to,
maybe, but I don't have to.
Mayor Suarez: Why don't we build in a program of voluntary testing.
Ms. Brooks: Yes, we could do that.
Mr. Dawkins: Go ahead, Mr. Manager.
Mr. Odio: Even if they test positive, we cannot refuse them. I, 1... no,
no...
Mr. Dawkins: Ok. Well then, all right, if they test positive, you were
saying something Ivy, what were you saying?
Mayor Suarez: It's going to be a great deterrent...
Mr. Dawkins: If they test positive, wait a minute.
Mayor Suarez: ... if they test positive for a lot of them, you know.
Mr. Dawkins: Wait a minute, let's...
Mr. Ivy Kearson: I was saying that if we ... if they test positive, if...
Mr. Dawkins: Give your name, they don't know who you are. They don't know
who you are, Ivy.
Mr. Ivy Kearson: This is Ivy Kearson, City of Miami Neighborhood Jobs
Program. We said if they test positive, it would give us a broader profile of
the kid, then that way we can know just how to counsel that individual. We
have no problem with giving them tests, but we can't deny them enrollment into
the program. But, it would give us a broader profile of that kid, and we
would know just how to deal with that individual. And I suggested,
Commissioner, if we can do it before and after the program, then we'll know
just how much affect we've had on the individual.
Mr. Dawkins: Well, one vote says, let them have the money and don't be
involved. That's just one vote.
Mayor Suarez: I'll entertain a motion on thirty-five. One way or the other.
Mr. Plummer: Well, you know, I hate to let 840 kids go that we could utilize
the services and put to good use. I happen to be in sympathy with Miller =
Dawkins, I happen to agree with him. But it's... you know, really it comes
down to the bottom line. Either you accept the money, and you accept it under
those conditions, or you don't accept the money. I'll move that we accept it.
Accept the money and mandatory testing as required.
Ms. Dougherty: Voluntary.
Mr. Plummer: Ok? That doesn't mean you're going to reject them, but they're
to be tested, everyone of them...
Ms. Dougherty: You can't...
Mr. Plummer: ... so that we know that any one of them that test out positive,
are going to be placed not in a position where they could cause any harm or
damage.
Ms. Dougherty: Commissioner.
Mr. Plummer: Yes.
Ms. Dougherty: You can't make them.
Mr. Plummer: You can't make them take the test?
Ms. Dougherty: No.
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Mr. Frank Castaneda: Commissioner, let me clarify something. If an
individual is not producing, is obviously on drugs from the perception of his
attitude, he will be immediately dismissed. What we're talking about is if,
for some reason the person has taken drugs but that does not really affect his
behavior, that's really what we're talking about. About that small group of
individuals. Obviously, if a child is under the influence, is disrupting,
does disruptive behavior, he will be immediately dismissed.
Mr. Carollo: Let me tell you something. There is no such in between that
drugs does not affect your behavior. You're a "pothead," you're a "pothead."
If you're a "cokehead," you're a "cokehead." And I don't care what type of
those types of illegal drugs you take or what amount, it's going to affect
your behavior, and one thing leads to another. No matter how little or how
much you have.
Mr. Plummer: Well, that's all well and good. Do we deny the grant? Is that
what you're saying? If we deny the grant, where does the money go to?
Mr. Dawkins: It remain...
Ms. Brooks: The consortium would redistribute it.
Mr. Plummer: So, in other words...
Ms. Brooks: ... to other providers.
Mr. Plummer: So in other words, what you're saying is, the Dade County kids
would then have the opportunity that City of Miami kids would not have.
Ms. Brooks: Right, they could.
Mr. Dawkins: Not necessarily. I've made my statement. I mean... and I know
how I'm going to vote, so let me keep quiet.
Ms. Kennedy: I understand. Commissioner, I understand exactly what you're
saying.
Mr. Carollo (off mike): Well, what is your statement again?
Mr. Dawkins: My statement is that, anybody using drugs should not work for
the City of Miami, Joe, that's all. I don't care whether he's eight years old
or eighty years old.
(Inaudible comments here by Mr. Carollo - off mike)
Ms. Kennedy: Well, thats...
Mr. Plummer: Well, if that's...
Ms. Kennedy: Let me say something, Commissioner Dawkins. I can understand
that, and it's appropriate that being "Say No To Drugs Week," that we have
this item on the agenda. And I think that the message should be, you know,
either you're clean or you're out. However, on the other side, how about the
kids that are clean?
Mr. Dawkins: Nothing says that, that...
Ms. Kennedy: ... we're going to sacrifice them too.
Mr. Dawkins: ... nothing. Ok, the money is federal money, ok? Nothing says
that Dade County does not have to hire X number of youngsters from the City of
Miami. Nothing says that all of them have to come from Goulds and Perrine,
ok? All I'm saying is that here in the City...
Mr. Plummer: It will never happen.
Mr. Dawkins: ... either we have to have one set of rules and have to set a
policy for youngsters to follow, or we don't.
Mr. Carollo: What I see is, that if we're ever going to be serious in this
country in truly combatting illegal drugs, the only way that we're going
really make a dent is by having a complete effort, from the Federal government
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on down to the local City halls and court houses. And these particular laws,
by who knows what pinhead bureaucrats up in Washington that made them, are the
kind of things that are undermining any true concrete foundations that we
could lay in this country to really combat drugs. Until you have some solid,
firm policies that everybody understands clearly, that this society is not
going to accept or tolerate illegal drugs, then it's not going to make a
difference. And you're going to see people using them more, and more, and
more again. And it's just like out here in traffic, if people knew that if
they could run a red light, and they would only maybe get a warning, or maybe
a ticket that they would pay one dollar or five dollars, people would be
running red lights, constantly. But, since they know the penalties are much
greater, then they don't. It's like everything else in life.
Mr. Plummer: See, Rosario brings out a good point though. We have a lot of
good kids in this City, and I'd like to believe we've got a lot more good kids
than we do bad.
Mr. Dawkins: I know we have.
Mr. Carollo: Absolutely.
Mr. Plummer: Ok.
Mr. Dawkins: I know we have.
Mr. Plummer: If we deny this grant and send it back to the county, then the
good kids in this commun... in this City are not going to be eligible.
Mr. Dawkins: I beg to differ. This says...
Mr. Plummer: Miller, you know as well as I do...
Mr. Dawkins: Oh, listen, J. L.
Mr. Plummer: ... that if that money goes to the county, the only reason they
would give any of it to the City is if they couldn't find the kids in the
qE county.
Mr. Dawkins: Ok, ok.
Mr. Carollo: Well, you know the motion I want to make? I'm going to make a
motion.
Mr. Dawkins: No, no, J. L.'s got a motion. J. L....
Mr. Plummer: No, I haven't got a motion.
Mr. Carollo: I want to make a motion that we'll accept this grant, but, at
the same time, we instruct our lobbyists in Washington to immediately contact
our U. S. Senators, our Congressmen and everyone else they can in Washington,
to make sure that there's a change in this law or any other laws that are
similar to it. I think that our congressmen, our senators, have to be made
aware of just what this law states, and the loop holes that this law has.
Mr. Plummer: Joe, you're talking about two weeks off.
Mr. Carollo: No, no, no, no. I'm saying to immediately start working on
that. We're going to accept this.
Mayor Suarez: So moved. No, he means like for next year.
Mr. Dawkins: Joe say, accept the money and go...
Ms. Kennedy: Second.
Mr. Carollo: I don't think we have any choice but to accept it.
Mrs. Kennedy: Second.
Mayor Suarez: At least they should get the... they should get the message
that for next year, we're not going to take the money under those conditions.
We have a motion and a second. Any further discussion?
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Mr. Dawkins: Under discussion.
Mayor Suarez: Commissioner.
Mr. Dawkins: I don't understand how my Federal government could write a law,
some laws and regulations and send to me and say that, such individuals may
include, but are not limited to, those who have limited English language
proficiency, are displaced homemakers, school dropouts, teenage parents,
handicapped, older workers, veterans, offenders, alcoholics, or addicts.
Mr. Plummer: What they're doing...
Mr. Carollo: You know why, Miller?
Mr. Plummer: ... they're reducing unemployment.
Mr. Carollo: Because I'll guarantee you that few of the congressmen that
voted for this really read all that fine print. And probably some of those
pinhead bureaucrats that wrote it themselves, every now and then they like to
smoke a little something or sniff a little something. And that's why you end
up with laws like this. You know it may be, just may be, if you know our
elected officials at the federal level got a little bit of guts and decided to
put the death penalty for the major drug pushers and then when they do
electrocute them or hang them, or put them up against a firing squad or
whatever the method they decide to use, then they put it on national TV, then
maybe, just maybe, we might get some people to stop bringing in drugs into
this country.
Mayor Suarez: We have a motion and a second. Any for the discussion? Read
the ordinance.
AT THIS POINT THE CITY ATTORNEY READS THE EMERGENCY ORDINANCE.
Mayor Suarez: Call the roll.
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN EMERGENCY ORDINANCE ESTABLISHING A NEW SPECIAL
REVENUE FUND ENTITLED: "SUMMER YOUTH EMPLOYMENT AND
TRAINING PROGRAM - 1987/JTPA II-B", APPROPRIATING
FUNDS FOR ITS OPERATION IN THE AMOUNT OF $931,120.00
FROM THE UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF LABOR;
AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ACCEPT THE GRANT AWARD
FROM THE UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF LABOR AND TO
ENTER INTO THE NECESSARY CONTRACT(S) AND/OR
AGREEMENT(S) FOR THE ACCEPTANCE OF THE GRANT;
CONTAINING A REPEALER PROVISION AND A SEVERABILITY
CLAUSE.
Was introduced by Commissioner Carollo and seconded by Commissioner
Kennedy, for adoption as an emergency measure and dispensing with the
requirement of reading same on two separate days, which was agreed to by the
following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
ABSENT: None.
Whereupon the Commission on motion of Commissioner Carollo and seconded
by Commissioner Kennedy, adopted said ordinance by the following vote-
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AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
ABSENT: None.
SAID ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO. 10271.
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and
announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commission and
to the public.
DURING THE ROLL CALL, THE FOLLOWING COMMENTS WERE MADE:
Mr. Dawkins: For reasons stated, I'll vote "no".
Mr. Plummer: Why is this an emergency?
Ms. Brooks: In terms of the time for... we have to enroll the students by May
31st... May 29th.
Mr. Plummer: When did you know about this... when did you know about this
grant?
Ms. Brooks: We were notified mid -April.
Mr. Plummer: Why is it brought to this agenda as an emergency and not brought
to us before? You knew the program before April.
Ms. Brooks: No, we didn't have time to prepare the item before the next
Commission date in terms of the deadline for the items. This was the first
available meeting.
Mr. Plummer: Madame City Attorney, is that a justified reason for an
emergency?
Ms. Dougherty: Yes, sir.
Mr. Plummer: I vote "yes"
Mayor Suarez: "Yes". I think we ought to also suggest a grant from the City
to have Miami Herald reporters investigate congressmen and senators who might
be sniffing and otherwise doing things they're not supposed to be doing.
38. ALLOCATE FUNDS FOR "SUMMER YOUTH EMPLOYMENT AND TRAINING PROGRAM -
1987/JTPA 11-B" TO BELAFONTE TACOLCY CENTER AND YOUTH CO-OP, INC.
Mayor Suarez: Item thirty-six is a related item.
Mr. Plummer: Is that a motion?
Mayor Suarez: No, I just put it in there.
Mr. Plummer: I think you have four seconds.
Mayor Suarez: This is how the money is going to be allocated now?
Ms. Brooks: Yes, item thirty-six was... provide for the allocation of
$146,841 to Belafonte Tacolcy Center, Inc. and $128,152 to Youth Co-op to
assist the City in actually operating the Summer Youth Employment Training
Program.
Mr. Carollo: Moved.
Ms. Kennedy: Second.
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Mayor Suarez: Motion moved. Seconded. Any discussion? Call the roll.
Mr. Plummer: Now that's not a flat fee, is it? In other words, if they don't
get their quota, they don't get paid that much. That's "not to exceed".
Ms. Brooks: It's not to exceed those amounts, that's correct.
Mr. Plummer: Ok.
Mayor Suarez: Do we have a second?
Mr. Plummer: I'll second.
Ms. Kennedy: Yes, yes, I did.
Mayor Suarez: Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Carollo, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 87-447
A RESOLUTION ALLOCATING $274,993 FROM THE SPECIAL
REVENUE FUND ENTITLED "SUMMER YOUTH EMPLOYMENT AND
TRAINING PROGRAM - 1987/JTPA II-B" TO THE BELAFONTE
TACOLCY CENTER (BTC) IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED
$146,841 AND TO YOUTH CO-OP, INC. IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO
EXCEED $128,152; FOR THE IMPLEMENTATION AND OPERATION
OF THE JTPA TITLE II-B SUMMER YOUTH EMPLOYMENT AND
TRAINING PROGRAM; FURTHER AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER
TO EXECUTE AN AGREEMENT WITH BTC AND YOUTH CO-OP, INC.
IN A FORM ACCEPTABLE TO THE CITY ATTORNEY.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
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39. AUTHORIZE EXECUTION OF AGREEMENT WITH GRAN CENTRAL CORPORATION FOR
IMPROVEMENT OF N.W. 1 AVENUE
Mayor Suarez: Thirty-seven. Is that also a sub -part?
Mr. Odio: No, sir, the next one is forty-two.
Mr. Plummer: We did thirty-seven.
Mayor Suarez: Item forty-two.
Mr. Plummer: Did we do forty-one?
Mr. Odio: Yes, sir.
Mayor Suarez: Yes, we did forty-one. Forty-two. Gran Central.
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Mr. Odio: This is to authorize us to proceed with a contractual agreement
with Gran Central Corporation, a subsidiary of FEC. The purpose is for the
development of a boulevard along N.W. 1st Avenue between N. W. 1st and 8th
Streets, in order to link existing downtown commercial core with the arena and
housing developments within Southeast Overtown Project. The funding will be a
cash contribution from a non - interest loan from Gran Central and a highway
improvements bonds.
Mr. Plummer: What happened to the third page, Matthew?
(Inaudible response off mike)
Mr. Plummer: No, you gave me three this morning. Ok.
Mayor Suarez: Is the concept of this, that we hope it will induce a certain
amount of development and, if so, how much?
Mr. Odio: Well, for one, it would develop the Gran Cen... it will bring up
the Gran Central development which is between that strip of land there which
would be a major development for that area.
Mayor Suarez: Any estimates on how much money we're talking about in
development?
Mr. Matthew Schwartz: The FEC railroad... the Gran Central Corporation
intends to build two million square feet of commercial space and a thousand
hotel rooms during the next fifteen years. It's the ultimate buildout for the
Gran Central.
Mr. Plummer: I thought it was twelve you told me? They either have to do it
in twelve, or this is not in order.
Mr. Schwartz: No.
Mr. Plummer: If they don't do it in twelve years, they don't get these
credits.
Mr. Schwartz: That's the impact... that's the impact fee credit is twelve
years, but the total buildout for their project during their original
redevelopment plan was for fifteen years. It really depends on market
conditions, what they're going to build.
Mayor Suarez: Is it a wholly owned subsidiary of FEC, or half?
Mr. Schwartz: Yes, it is.
Mr. Plummer: Well, I think it really goes further than that, Mr. Mayor,
because it's going to be an inducement, that's to the west side. Now, to the
east, it's going to be an inducement, I think, for a lot of other people to
build in that same area, which we have no idea who or what or why at this
particular point.
Mr. Suarez: In other words, where it's now located is not ideal from our
perspective anyhow? Is that what you're saying?
Mr. Plummer: Not for anybody's perspective.
Mr. Odio: Yes, sir. This would really open up that area, and it will open up
the traffic lanes to the arena, and we're still negotiating with the FEC ; FEC
agrees to remove the spur going to the port, and we're still trying to
convince Carmen Lunetta to allow us to remove that spur going into...
Mr. Plummer: Well...
Mr. Odio: ... the port which will also help.
Mr. Plummer: One of... that's one of the things I'm going to address, Mr.
Manager. Mr. Mayor, I have two areas, in particular, that I have to have
added for my vote. Number one is that there has to be a cap of three million
dollars on the credits given back on the impact fee, and I understand that
that has been agreed to by FEC. The other one, Mr. Mayor, refers to the
crossing of the railroad tracks. Where that crossing comes over there, FEC
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doesn't want that crossing. FEC says it is not financially viable, and that
they really don't want it. The City of Miami absolutely doesn't want it under
any circumstances. The only one that it benefits is the port. Now the cost of
that over the road situation is approximately a quarter of a million dollars.
And what I'm saying is, since we don't want it, FEC is mandated to do it, I
guess under some circumstances, but they don't want to do it, that I want to
put into the agreement that if it is, in fact, done, that this City is not
going to pay for it. That's a quarter of a million dollars. If Lunetta wants
it over there, let him pay for it. Now, it just makes...
Ms. Kennedy: Let me offer a suggestion. Would they be of... would they be
willing to offer us more property, or whatever, for that amount of money - for
the two hundred and fifty thousand dollars?
Mr. Plummer: What do we want more property for?
Ms. Kennedy: Well, some kind of a trade off.
Mr. Schwartz: This is to make up for the difference that the City may be
liable for.
Mr. Roger Barreto: My name's Roger Barreto and I'm representing Gran Central
Corporation. I don't think that's the issue. I respect Mr. Plummer's concern
about the cost to improve that crossing. And I think that our City manager,
Cesar Odio, has made it known to you that we have been actively negotiating to
have that track removed. The track is going to be there right in front of the
arena which is not... it's going to be...
Mr. Plummer: Horrible.
Mr. Barreto: ... a real problem from ad infinitum, more or less. And, like I
say, I appreciate your... but I... the railroad really is not going to be
widening the road. The City of Miami wants to widen this road. It's very
important to all of us, really, you know. It's important to induce
redevelopment in the downtown area, which I think we're on a roll with
Bayside, and you heard earlier this morning about the FP&L group doing some
property in the river quadrant, and this is going to be a very integral part
of that traffic pattern that is going to take place by widening N. W. 1st
Avenue. I think it's good for all of us, you know, but really we... the
railroad doesn't feel like we should be paying for the widening of the
crossing. We have the... the tracks are there. We are also actively trying
to get that track out of there, and we have to petition the Interstate
Commerce Commission before we can abandon service into the Port of Miami.
Now, let me bring you up to date on some of the facts about the usage of that
track as it relates to Miami. We operate all the way from Little River, 71st
Street, and have no other industry, really, until we get to the Port of Miami.
Last month, we handled five cars in there. The month before that, seven cars.
The month before that , nine, and the month before that, in January, we had
eleven cars. We're averaging less than one quarter of one percent of the
traffic that our railroad handles into the port by that spur track. The rest
of them are coming in there and unloaded at our piggyback ramp located west of
Hialeah, and is trucked over the road because this is really a container port.
Mr. Plummer: Carmen's got fifty million dollars. Let him do it.
Mr. Barreto: It's not a bulk port where you bring in gondolas full of scrap
steel, and stuff like that like they do in Port Everglades. And we are
actively pursuing that. But I hope you understand our position. I think that
this is very important to all of us. I feel that the City should go ahead and
ask the county to pay for that crossing, you know, if it's required. And I
think they should put the pressure on that, and I feel that...
Ms. Kennedy: All right. I would like to instruct the City manager to
negotiate with the County.
Mr. Plummer: I... but, but not hinging on this deal. We're talking about a
quarter of a million dollars. Now, all I'm saying is, I think it's a good
deal if the County wants it and the County needs it, then let the County pay
for it. I hope to God they don't want it, and they don't build it in front of
that arena. Because I think it would be an "eyesore" in that arena area. I
don't think we need it. Now, all I'm saying is, that whatever is passed, is
subject to the City not paying a quarter of a million dollars for a railroad
crossing to accommodate the port. I don't think that's unfair.
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Mr. Odio: Can I ask a question?
Mr. Plummer: Sure.
Mr. Odio: If the County refuses to pay for this, I need instructions on how
to pursue it.
Mr. Plummer: They will deal with it later.
Mr. Dawkins: Say that again. Say that again.
Mr. Odio: We... we...
Mr. Dawkins: No, you say if the County what now?
Mayor Suarez: Refuses to pay for it.
Mr. Odio: Refuses to pay for it.
Mr. Dawkins: Then we refuse to let them use the right of way, that's all.
And we refuse to widen it.
Mr. Plummer: No, you can't do that. That's federal.
Mr. Odio: Can't do that. That's a federal...
Mr. Plummer: Have you signed the agreement for the bridge?
Mr. Odio: Not yet.
Mr. Plummer: Don't sign the agreement.
Mr. Odio: All right.
Mr. Plummer: No, I'm saying, you know.
Mr. Odio: Well, you're dealing with...
Mayor Suarez: And if you don't sign the agreement for the bridge, you don't
get six million dollars.
Mr. Odio: Then you lose $5.9 million dollars.
Mr. Plummer: All I'm saying, and I'll continue to say, if the ci... if the
City... if the City of Miami has got a quarter of a million dollars to throw
away, that's one thing. But, we don't.
Mr. Odio: You're talking about six million dollars... $5.9 million dollars
then.
Mr. Plummer: I don't want to do that, ok? I don't want to do that in any
way, shape, or form. That's why I'm saying, let's pass this, subject to
condition known that the City doesn't pick up the tab for that.
Mr. Odio: Can I ask for permission to proceed with the work anyway. You see,
I have to have that avenue finished by the opening of the arena because the
City has to guarantee forty-five hundred parking spaces, in writing...
Mr. Plummer: Who said that? We never agreed to that.
Mr. Odio: The City has to agree with the N.B.A. franchisers...
Mr. Plummer: We've not agreed to that.
Mr. Odio: ... that we will provide forty—five hundred parking spaces.
Mr. Plummer: Who, who, whoa, whoa, whoa!
Mr. Odio: Wait a minute, let me...
Mr. Plummer: Where did that come from?
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Mr. Odio: If you let me finish, I'll explain.
Mr. Plummer: Oh, ok.
Mr. Odio: The N.B.A...
Mr. Plummer: Have you voted on that?
Mr. Odio: No, sir, I'm trying to... the NBA has notified the franchise
holders that in order for them to keep that franchise...
Mr. Plummer: Yes, sir.
Mr. Odio: ... the NBA franchise...
Mr. Plummer: Yes, sir.
Mr. Odio: ... they must have forty-five hundred parking spaces...
Mr. Plummer: And I hope they get them.
Mr. Odio: ... 500 spaces - feet from the arena.
Mr. Plummer: I hope they get them.
Mr. Odio: We can't, we, we...
Mr. Plummer: No, no, no - they - they, the people who have the fifty million
dollars...
Mr. Odio: Well, well...
Mr. Plummer: Fifty million dollars on an arena. Now, if they can't provide
their own parking, this Commission has not agreed to it.
Mr. Odio: I'm not saying that you have to.
Mr. Plummer: Well, you said it in the inception.
Mr. Odio: I'm saying that we, I'm, I'm... all I'm saying, Commissioner, that
the N.B.A. requires forty-five hundred parking spaces...
Mr. Plummer: Of the franchise holder.
Mr. Odio: ... five hundred, that's right. And if they cannot...
Mr. Plummer: And I agree with that. It's a mandate, it should be.
Mr. Odio: Fine. If by... if they gave a deposit of three point two and a
half million dollars and the parking spaces are not available, the day of the
first game, they lose.
Mr. Plummer: But that's the franchise holder. We're not the franchise
holder.
Mr. Odio: But we'll lose the franchise.
Mr. Plummer: No, no, no, no, no. We do not lose the franchise holder.
Mr. Odio: Oh yes we do, Commissioner.
Mr. Plummer: No. We are not going...
Mr. Odio: ... the City...
Mr. Plummer: ... to be. Are we going to be the owner of the franchise? The
City of Miami?
Mr. Odio: I feel like...
Mr. Plummer: Are we going to be the owner of the franchise?
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Mr. Odio: No...
Mr. Plummer: Because if we are, I'm going to give them forty-fi.-e t.ar:dred.
Mr. Odio: I'm saying that, that... what I was trying to say...
Mr. Plummer: What happened to the fifty million dollars,
Mr. Odio: What fifty million dollars?
Mr. Plummer: That's what's being spent from the bed tax to build this
facility.
Mr. Odio: I'm telling you, Commissioner, there is no concern on the parking
spaces because they will be there. There is a plan developed by the Off -
Street Parking and the Sports Authority...
Mr. Plummer: But not the City.
Mr. Odio: I'm not saying the City.
Mr. Plummer: Did he not start off by saying the City has to provide forty-
five hundred?
Mr. Odio: Well, if I did...
Mayor Suarez: No, he said "we" because we're all a part of the N.B.A.
franchise...
Mr. Odio: I feel part of that - very strongly.
Mayor Suarez: ... and the Sports Arena, and if we don't have the games being
played there, that's three hundred, or five hundred and some thousand people a
year less that will go into the arena and its...
Mr. Odio: Well, what I'm trying to... what I'm...
Mayor Suarez: ... not going to make it profitable. It's, it's...
Mr. Odio: What I was trying to say, the...
Mayor Suarez: We're in the same ballgame.
Mr. Plummer: No, no, no, no. That's not a... that's not a true statement.
Mr. Dawkins: Wait a minute. Didn't we say... didn't somebody tell me that
this arena would support itself, with or without the NBA team?
Mr. Plummer: You bet they did.
Mr. Dawkins: All right, so... you're right.
Mr. Odio: And, and, only... everything is tied together now.
Mr. Plummer: No, no, excuse me, let me get on record. I don't want anybody
to go and walk away from this meeting with any misconception. I am all for
the N.B.A. franchise. But I am not going to sell this City down a financial
river when they had fifty million dollars to build and fully knowing they
needed parking. Now, they have had an overrun on every damn thing they've
done.
Mr. Odio: I, I can...
Mr. Plummer: Now, all I'm saying is, that if the NBA to award a franchise,
says they've got to have forty-five hundred parking spaces, the owners of that
franchise better go out and start looking for them. Don't expect this City to
pick up the tab.
Mr. Dawkins: Go back to the site where the arena is, ok? Now you see where
you've got that curved line down there at the bottom? Yes, that one, and come
on up and then down...
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Mr. Plummer: Fine, let the N.B.A. require it, but he'd better provide it, not
US.
Mr. Dawkins: ... and it makes the angle towards you. All right, now you see
where the rest of that land goes to N. E. 6th Street? Wasn't that apart. of
the parcel that was awarded to the...
Mr. Plummer: No. No, he's ------- If he made an agreement that he can't
live up to, that's his problem.
Mr. Dawkins: ... the arena people?
Mr. Schwartz: It wasn't awarded to them, but their proposal included all the
way down to Sixth Street, the Decoma proposal.
Mr. Dawkins: Their proposal included, ok? Now, when they stood up here
before us, J. L. listen.
Mr. Plummer: Yes, sir.
Mr. Dawkins: And I said, you're taking a parcel of land, cutting it up, and
making a part down to the bottom useless, to keep from adding parking - what
was his response? That they didn't need any parking. So, therefore, they
could - would do it. Is that correct? There was enough parking within
walking distance and within riding distance and etc. So the people who are
building the arena refused to take that plot of land that was... that they
originally asked for, on which to build parking. Is that correct?
Mr. Schwartz: I believe so.
Mr. Plummer: You know... you know it's correct.
Mr. Dawkins: So the City Commission... the City Commission is not the ones
who's knocked out the parking. The arena people did. So now the franchise
owner has a problem with the arena people, because the arena people were
supposed to have the parking. Is that a correct statement? As how it
occurred?
Mr. Schwartz: Yes, yes.
Mr. Dawkins: Ok.
Mr. Chris Korge, Esq: The parking, Commissioner... the parking was brought
before the regional planning council, and it was determined that the parking
was adequate in the surrounding areas and with the use of Metrorail and the
Peoplemover.
Mr. Plummer: Exactly.
Mr. Korge: The N.B.A. is the one that is requiring the forty-five hundred
square feet. It's the still the position of the operator of the arena that
parking's adequate. It's the N.B.A. in giving the franchise to the team
that's requiring the forty-five hundred spaces.
Mr. Dawkins: Who's going to award the franchise?
Mr. Korge: The N.B.A.
Mr. Dawkins: So, therefore, if the NBA demands forty-five parking spaces,
prior to awarding a franchise, what do you think is going to happen?
Mr. Plummer: I think Mr. Buffman had better get busy and go and find them.
Mr. Korge: But, for the Commission's information, the arena budget never
included, and we never...
Mr. Plummer: And we never agreed to it.
Mr. Korge: ... had the money to build forty-five hundred parking spaces.
Mr. Plummer: We never agreed to it.
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Mr. Dawkins: Wait a minute. Wait a minute. What do you mean when you say
the arena budget never included parking? I mean, what do you mean by that?
Mr. Korge: The budget for the fifty million dollars did not include a parking
facility for...
Mr. Korge: ... forty-five hundred cars. That would cost, I don't know how
many millions of dollars, but it would be...
Mr. Dawkins: Well, that wasn't my problem when they came here and told me
they were going to build an arena. I didn't have nothing to do with where...
Mr. Korge: That's correct.
Mr. Dawkins: ... they were going to find the money...
Mr. Korge: That's correct.
Mr. Dawkins: ... and how much money.
Mr. Korge: That's correct.
Mr. Dawkins: They said they wanted land on which to put an arena.
Mr. Korge: That's correct.
Mr. Plummer: Exactly.
Mr. Dawkins: This Commission gave them land on which to put an arena.
Mr. Plummer: No, we sold it to them.
Mr. Dawkins: Sold it to them, all right.
Mr. Korge: Yes, that's correct.
Mr. Dawkins: So then, after they got the land, then they decided how much of
the land they wanted to use and not build... put parking. They decided that.
Mr. Korge: Commissioner, I don't believe that the Decoma Group ever conceived
of building parking on the arena site. That's not part of the plan.
Mr. Dawkins: Ok. Decoma does not need the parking.
Mr. Korge: That's correct.
Mr. Plummer: And neither do we.
Mr. Dawkins: The franchi... applyee needs it.
Mr. Korge: That's correct. Yes.
Mr. Dawkins: So we don't... I mean...
Mr. Plummer: Who made... who made the commitment to the NBA for the forty
five hundred parking spaces?
Mr. Korge: The N... the team did, not us.
Mr. Plummer: So it is their obligation to provide them?
Mr. Korge: There... we do not have any legal obligation to provide forty-five
hundred parking spaces.
Mr. Plummer: Oh, ok, all right. So there is no obligation, ok, all right.
Mr. Odio: The fact is, Commissioner, that we can provide the parking, and it
can be provided without any City funds involved...
Mr. Dawkins: You know what, Mr. Manager, I hate to cut you off and be rude,
but this is the same thing... where is the ten million dollars that I was
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supposed to get from them with which to do the repairs and the alterations at
the Knight Center...
Mr. Odio: It's sitting in the...
Mr. Dawkins: ... and now I got to take taxpayers' dollars to do it, and now
you're going to tell me to take taxpayers' dollars and build an arena.
Mr. Odio: No, no, no, wait, wait. The money's sitting in the...
Mr. Dawkins: I mean parking.
Mr. Odio: The ten million dollars are sitting in the bank.
Mr. Dawkins: Beg pardon?
Mr. Odio: The money is in the bank.
Mr. Dawkins: Where did it come from?
Mr. Odio: It came from that bond issue.
Mr. Dawkins: What bond issue?
Mr. Odio: The arena.
Mr. Dawkins: Who's got a... who... no, no, no...
Mr. Plummer: No, no. No, no.
Mr. Dawkins: Wait a minute now.
Mr. Odio: It came... it came... it came from that...
Mr. Plummer: Yes, sir, it did.
Mr. Odio: ... whole deal.
Mayor Suarez: It came from the bed tax. We have to guarantee it, that was
the only thing.
Mr. Plummer: No, no, no, it did not come from the bed tax. It came from the
additional penny two -third, one-third.
Mayor Suarez: Right.
Mr. Plummer: Ok. Now...
Mayor Suarez: The Tourism development tax, if you want to be...
Mr. Plummer: Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Miller, ask the next question.
To get that ten million dollars in the bank, which we have, what did we have
to pledge, and ask Mr. Korge what is the chances we'll ever get paid back? Go
ahead, answer the question, Mr. Korge. No, answer the question truthfully.
Mr. Korge: The tax... you had to pledge the utility service tax.
Mr. Plummer: Yes, what are our chances of ever getting that money back from
the Sports Authority?
Mr. Korge: If you... if you ever have to look to the utility service tax to
pay the debt service, the only way you would be paid back is from the profits
of the arena, or subsequent surpluses in CDT...
Mr. Plummer: What is our chances of getting that money back from the Sports
Authority?
Mr. Korge: I... without being a financial expert and merely a lawyer, I would
say that the chances are not that great over a ten year period.
Mr. Plummer: Yes, that means in language of the layman, it's damn little.
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Mr. Korge: If you say so, sir, yes.
Mr. Plummer: No, it's not what I say. It's what you told me in private.
Mr. Dawkins: So now...
Mr. Plummer: Look, all I'm saying is...
Mr. Dawkins: Not one taxpayer's dollar is going in any parking. That's what
J. L. is saying.
Mr. Plummer: I want to tell you. Mr. Korge, give me your lawyer's
interpretation, not financial, what kind of a deal does the team franchise
local people have with this arena right now? Is it not a sweetheart deal?
Mr. Korge: They... the deal...
Mr. Plummer: What is... that, that which is proposed.
Mr. Korge: The deal... the deal. There are two parts to the deal.
Mr. Plummer: Is it not a 'sweetheart' deal for that team which almost assures
them they cannot lose money.
Mr. Korge: Their... I don't know... I don't know the internal structure of
their deal. They have a very good deal with the City.
Mr. Plummer: Damn good deal with the City!
Mr. Korge: They're very good.
Mr. Plummer: Any kind of a deal I can go into which is almost assuring me
that I can't lose, I consider that a sweetheart deal. And that's what they're
doing. Now, they're coming back and they want... no, they're not coming back,
because, ok. But, you see, Mr. Manager, with your attitude what bothers me is
that we're going to be cadged into a position of being the bad guys. We never
promised that parking.
Mr. Odio: Yes, we did, sir.
Mr. Plummer: No, sir, we did not.
Mr. Odio: I didn't promise them, but when in meetings prior to them going to
look for the... get the franchise, they had meetings, and meeting after
meeting with the Off -Street Parking Authority, and parking was promised.
Mr. Plummer: Hey, then that's between them and the Off Street Parking
Authority; not with us.
Mr. Odio: That's the way that... but we're going to have to cooperate and
- that's what I'm trying to... we will have to cooperate.
Mr. Plummer: And if they're going to use our property, they're going to buy
it.
Mr. Odio: No, we don't want to sell it, that's Park/West.
Mayor Suarez: Why, why are you getting into the issue of the forty-five
hundred parking spaces and not resolve the FCC application?
Mr. Odio: I agree, ----, but...
Mr. Schwartz: The importance of have...
Mr. Plummer: All right, let me ask you another question.
Mayor Suarez: You'll have plenty of time to discuss all of those deals, you
know, we have to approve them sooner or later. The Off -Street Parking
Authority can't make a single capital improvement deal without coming to us,
we've told them that, by ordinance.
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Mr. Plummer: I hope you're right. My only problem remaining is that the City
has not had appraisals. And one of the problems, ok. Let me remind this
Commission that the problem we got into with the substation of police on
Flagler Street. Do you remember what happened to us with the leasehold
interest? Do you remember what happened to us with the leasehold interest in
the Knight Center? There are leasehold interests in this thing that is not
been negotiated. They have an appraisal on the property by our appraisers...
Mr. Schwartz: We have two appraisals on the property.
Mr. Plummer: Ok - of two million seven hundred and seventy-five thousand
dollars. I want to put a cap, a maximum cap on those leasehold interests not
to exceed two hundred thousand dollars. There are only two and one half years
left on the leasehold interest. Now, the only thing that keeps bothering me,
Matthew, is that we have not had an appraisal of those properties that are
crosshatched.
Mr. Schwartz: The transfer of the value of the F.E.C. property, and with the
City would be giving the F.E.C. as part of this - deal that will be done after
the deal and that only impacts the impact fee credit, so it's really based on
what those appraisals come out to so it's just a percentage in the agreement.
Mr. Plummer: Yes, well, three million... ok, three million will cover it.
Mr. Schwartz: It's not to exceed three million dollars.
Mr. Plummer: Ok.
Mr. Schwartz: As you had requested that we modify the agreement.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, let me reiterate my position once again. Number one,
that there be a maximum cap on the leasehold interest of the property to be `
acquired on 1st Street of two hundred thousand. Number two, that the cap for
returning of the impact fees do not exceed three million dollars. And number
three, that if the F.E.C. crossing is to continue to exist, that, that cost
will not be picked up by the City of Miami. If that's agreeable with my
colleagues, I'm ready to move all three items.
Mr. Dawkins: Second.
Mayor Suarez: There's one agreement. Moved and seconded.
Ms. Kennedy: Matthew, when do you have to commence quick take condemnation?
Mr. Plummer: No, I don't think it will be quick take.
Mr. Schwartz: We have to commence construction in October to be finished in
April and the, as far as the most important thing is that we have to get this
thermal chill line up 1st Avenue to the arena by September, and the F.E.C. has
agreed to give us, immediately upon approval of this agreement, a utilities'
easement that would allow us to do this.
Mayor Suarez: Do you think we will have contradicted that in any way with the
provisos that are put into this motion? Or will the F.E.C. agree to give us
the easement?
Mr. Schwartz: I believe the only problem will be with the two hundred and
fifty thousand dollars...
Mayor Suarez: Why don't you let him... why don't you let him address that,
if he can without speaking to the chairman.
Mr. Schwartz: ... finding another source of... because the...
Mr. Barreto: Mr. Mayor, and Commissioners, the matter of the cost of it,
installing the widening crossing for N. W. 1st Avenue, will have to be
addressed at the time the road will be widened. And, I understand that is
very critical. However, I've reiterated my position more than one time about
that, the railroad really is trying to get the track removed from there. I
don't think that it's our responsibility to pay for that crossing, you know.
Mr. Plummer: I agree with you.
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Mr. Barreto: And I...
Mr. Plummer: And it's not ours.
Mr. Barreto: Right. And I respect your position.
Mr. Plummer: Now you agree with me.
Mr. Barreto: I respect your position. And I think that it's incumbent on
this Commission to instruct our City manager, let's say, to go after the cost
of this widening of this crossing with the Port of Miami or the County,
whichever the appropriate entity is. And I think that maybe Carmen Lunetta,
if he actually feels like he needs that crossing and you can try to convince
him to get that money and pay for it. But, we can, in no way, commit ourself
to pay for the cost of that crossing.
Mr. Plummer: We agree with you and we take the same position.
Mr. Barreto: With that understanding...
Mr. Plummer: I'll move item forty-two; is it forty-two?
Mr. Dawkins: Second.
Mr. Plummer: I'll move forty-two - well, its forty-two, forty-three and
forty-four. I'll move item forty-two, as modified.
Mr. Dawkins: Second.
Mayor Suarez: With the modifications, moved and seconded, thirded. Any
discussion? Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 87-448
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE
AN AGREEMENT, IN A FORM ACCEPTABLE TO THE CITY
ATTORNEY, BETWEEN THE CITY OF MIAMI AND GRAN CENTRAL
CORPORATION FOR THE PURPOSE OF FACILITATING THE
REALIGNMENT, WIDENING AND IMPROVEMENT OF NORTHWEST
FIRST AVENUE BETWEEN NORTHWEST FIRST STREET AND
NORTHWEST EIGHTH STREET IN THE CITY OF MIAMI.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Dawkins, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo*
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
*NOTE FOR THE RECORD: ALTHOUGH ABSENT ON ROLL CALL, COMMISSIONER CAROLLO
REQUESTED OF THE CITY CLERK TO BE SHOWN VOTING WITH THE MOTION.
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40. AUTHORIZE LOAN AGREEMENT WITH GRAN CENTRAL CORPORATION FOR ACQUISITION OF
PARCEL AT 104 N.W. 1 AVENUE
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Mayor Suarez: Forty-three is a related item.
Mr. Plummer: As modified.
Mr. Dawkins: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Moved, as modified. Seconded. Any discussion: Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 87-449
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A
LOAN AGREEMENT, IN A FORM ACCEPTABLE TO THE CITY
ATTORNEY, BETWEEN THE CITY OF MIAMI AND GRAN CENTRAL
CORPORATION, A FLORIDA CORPORATION, FOR AN AMOUNT TO
BE DETERMINED, SAID FUNDS TO BE UTILIZED FOR THE
ACQUISITION OF A 17,850 SQ. FT. PARCEL LOCATED AT 104
NW 1ST AVENUE, THE LOAN TO THE CITY TO BE SECURED BY A
CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT BOND DELIVERED BY THE CITY TO GRAN
CENTRAL CORPORATION; PAYMENTS ACCRUING ON THE BOND
SHALL BE ACCRUED WITHOUT INTEREST AND SHALL BE REPAID
FROM FUNDS GENERATED BY THE SUPPLEMENTAL DISTRICT TO
SOUTHEAST OVERTOWN/PARK WEST TAX INCREMENT TRUST FUND.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Dawkins, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo*
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
*NOTE FOR THE RECORD: ALTHOUGH ABSENT ON ROLL CALL, COMMISIONER CAROLLO
REQUESTED OF THE CITY CLERK TO BE SHOWN VOTING WITH THE MOTION.
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41. AUTHORIZE ACQUISITION OF PARCEL AT 104 N.W. 1 AVENUE; REQUEST CITY AND/OR
DADE COUNTY INITIATE CONDEMNATION IF CANNOT BE PURCHASED.
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Mr. Plummer: Forty-four as modified.
Mayor Suarez: So moved.
Ms. Kennedy: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Seconded. Call the roll. Any discussion? Call the roll.
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May 14,1987
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 87-450
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO INITIATE
THE ACQUISITION OF A 17,850 SQ. FT. PARCEL LOCATED AT
104 NW 1ST AVENUE BASED ON APPRAISALS PREPARED BY J.
MARK QUINLIVAN AND RENEE ROLLE-DAWSON; REQUESTING THAT
THE CITY OF MIAMI AND/OR DADE COUNTY INITIATE
CONDEMNATION PROCEEDINGS IF THE PROPERTY CANNOT BE
PURCHASED FROM A CASH CONTRIBUTION AND LOAN TO THE
CITY FROM GRAN CENTRAL CORPORATION.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Kennedy, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo*
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
*NOTE FOR THE RECORD: ALTHOUGH ABSENT ON ROLL CALL COMMISSIONER CAROLLO
REQUESTED TO BE SHOWN VOTING WITH THE MOTION.
42. AUTHORIZE CONTRACT WITH "M BANK" FOR SPECIAL DEPOSITORY ACCOUNT
Mayor Suarez: I think we postponed consideration of forty-five, or tabled it
until Commissioner Dawkins was present.
Mr. Plummer: Yes.
Mayor Suarez: Make sure that they abide by the requirement that all monies
deposited with banks...
Mr. Carollo: I vote "yes" for the record, Mr. Clerk.
Mr. Plummer: ...forty-two, forty-three, and forty-four.
Mayor Suarez: On those three items?
Mr. Carollo: Yes.
Mayor Suarez: All deposits by the City are with banks that are cooperating
with our various projects.
Mr. Carlos Garcia: Mr. Mayor, members of the City Commission, the City has a
set aside program for three revenue accounts with three minority banks. We
have already awarded resolutions for a black bank and a female owned bank. At
this time we need to move on a Hispanic bank. Based on the request for
proposals that we, the City, sent, we received six proposals to the City. Of
the six proposals that we received, we are recommending as number one with
the... as our highest priority, Banco Pedroso. Number two, M. Bank and number
three as Consolidated Bank.
Mr. Carollo: What rates are they giving us?
Mr. Garcia: They are not paying any rate on this, Commissioner. What we're
doing is, we are taking certain revenues that will go into that bank, and the
bank has up to five days to transfer that money into the regular City account
with NCNB Bank.
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Mr. Carollo: Is Banco Pedroso inside the City of Miami limits?
Mr. Garcia: No they are not. They are in Coral Gables. They have a drive-in
facility in the City of Miami.
Mr. Carollo: Let me tell you something. As far as I'm concerned, the main
priority should be to the banks who are inside the City of Miami limits. As I
don't know which of those two other banks might be, but I would go down the
line with them. Are any of the other two inside the City of Miami limits?
Mr. Garcia: M Bank is within the City limits and Consolidated Bank, they have
their main branch in Hialeah, but they also have branches in the City.
Mr. Carollo: They have a branch in the City. Well...
Mr. Garcia: Yes, sir.
Mr. Carollo: Who is next in line? Consolidated or M Bank?
Mr. Garcia: M Bank.
Mr. Carollo: I would make a motion that we go with a bank that is inside of
the City of Miami limits.
Mayor Suarez: So moved.
Mr. Dawkins: Was that M Bank?
Mr. Carollo: I would go with their recommendation of the next bank in line
which would be M Bank.
Mayor Suarez: So moved.
Mr. Plummer: Well, you know, listen... Joe, I don't disagree with you, but I
think we got to come to some determination, let me tell you what it is. It
was my understanding that we were going to consider banks that, in fact, had
helped in Southeast Overtown. Is that correct?
Mr. Garcia: Not for this particular section, Commissioner. This... all we
were doing with this program was giving small bank accounts to minority banks.
I don't think this selection was tied to Southeast Overtown.
Mayor Suarez: These are demand deposits and stuff like that, they're not...
Mr. Garcia: No, this is just depository accounts.
Mr. Plummer: Oh, ok, all right.
Mayor Suarez: Not large refinancing bonds or anything like that.
Mr. Garcia: Right.
Mr. Carollo: I would say this. I don't know the operations of any of these
banks, but if I remember reading a little bit about a year and a half ago, M
Bank, I think, certainly did invest quite a bit in Liberty City and Overtown.
Mayor Suarez: They certainly express an intention to do that. Ok, we've got
a motion, do we have a second?
Mr. Plummer: What's the M? M Bank?
Mr. Carollo: Yes, M Bank.
Mr. Plummer: I'll second the motion.
Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded. Any discussion? Call the roll.
111 May 14,1987
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Carollo, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 87-451
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO NEGOTIATE
AND ENTER INTO A CONTRACT FOR A TWO-YEAR PERIOD WITH M
BANK FOR ESTABLISHING A SPECIAL DEPOSITORY ACCOUNT.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
43. AUTHORIZE OFFERS FOR ACQUISITION OF EIGHT PARCELS IN ALLAPATTAH FOR
DEVELOPMENT OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING
Mayor Suarez: Forty-six, forty-seven, forty-eight, it's forty-nine, I think,
all have to do with the scattered site housing programs for the various
catchment areas. We postponed it, tabled it from this morning until the
Commissioners could all be here and make sure that they... presentation made
to all the Commission members? Individually?
Mr. Jerry Gereaux: Yes, all but Commissioner Carollo.
Mr. Plummer: I have it, but I hadn't had the presentation.
Mr. Gereaux: He didn't get my verbal...
Mr. Carollo: For the record...
Mr. Plummer: It's my... no, no, it's my... on my...
Mr.Gereaux: He didn't get my verbal pitch.
Mr. Carollo: For the record, Jerry did try to meet with me, but,
unfortunately, yesterday we were supposed to meet, I had an emergency in my
private business, and I wasn't able to attend the meeting with him.
Mr. Plummer: I didn't have an emergency, but it's my fault that I did not
meet with Jerry. He did furnish me all the materials. I've had a chance to
look at it, somewhat, but he did... he tried very, very hard to meet with me.
Mayor Suarez: I'll entertain a motion on forty-six. Unless there's any
further questions or clarifications.
Mr. Carollo: So moved.
Mr. Dawkins: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded.
Mr. Plummer: Well, let me... let me... let me just...
Mayor Suarez: Commissioner. Vice -Mayor.
Mr. Plummer: Let's get on the record now. These are sites that are proposed.
112 May 14,1987
Mr. Gereaux: Yes, they are, Commissioner.
Mr. Plummer: All right. Before any one of these sites would be selected,
there would have to be public hearings. Jerry, what I'm trying to avoid, ok?
You know what I'm trying to avoid, how many times we've had people come in
here and scream and holler and, I didn't know and yuk - yuk - yuk - yuk. Mr.
Mayor, I'm willing to vote on all of these right now with the proviso that any
site selected before it is negotiated, and bought, and paid for , that there
must be a public hearing of the neighbors in that neighborhood.
Mr. Gereaux: Sure.
Mayor Suarez: Say, "before they're bought", because if you say "before
they're negotiated", you may take away some of his bargaining strength. If
you can tell them now that...
Mr. Plummer: Ok, all right - before it's purchased.
Mayor Suarez: Yes, because now you have an additional thing you can tell the
person you're buying from which is that, of course all of this is subject to
being approved by public hearing and they may not like it, so if you don't
give us a good price, etc., etc. Hopefully, strengthen your hand in
negotiating,. instead of weakening it, which is what we've been doing in the
past. Ok, I'll buy it.
Mr. Gereaux: Of course, of course.
Mayor Suarez: Do we have a motion to that effect?
Ms. Kennedy: Is that your motion?
Mr. Plummer: Move forty-four.
Ms. Kennedy: Second.
Mr. Plummer: With that proviso.
Mayor Suarez: Move forty-six with that proviso. Seconded. Any discussion?
Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 87-452
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO MAKE
OFFERS TO PROPERTY OWNERS FOR ACQUISITION OF EIGHT
PARCELS (PARCELS 03-01 THROUGH 03-08) WITHIN THE
ALLAPATTAH COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT TARGET AREA AND WHICH
ARE MORE PARTICULARLY AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED IN THE
ATTACHED EXHIBITS "A" AND "B", TO BE USED FOR THE
DEVELOPMENT OF HOUSING AFFORDABLE TO LOW AND MODERATE
INCOME FAMILIES IN CONNECTION WITH THE CITY SPONSORED
SCATTERED SITE AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM;
FURTHER DIRECTING THAT MAIL NOTICE OF A PUBLIC HEARING
SCHEDULED BEFORE THE CITY COMMISSION BE GIVEN TO ALL
OWNERS OF PROPERTY WITHIN 375 FEET OF THE PROPERTY
LINES OF THE LAND PARCEL SOUGHT TO BE OBTAINED FOR THE
PURPOSE OF OBTAINING CITY COMMISSION APPROVAL OF EACH
ACQUISITION PRIOR TO THE CITY ATTORNEY CLOSING ON
THESE PARCELS AFTER EXAMINATION OF THE ABSTRACT AND
CONFIRMATION OF OPINION OF TITLE; FURTHER DESIGNATING
PREVIOUSLY APPROPRIATED 11TH YEAR COMMUNITY
DEVELOPMENT LAND ACQUISITION FUNDS IN THE AMOUNT OF
$1,000,000 TO COVER THE COST OF SAID ACQUISITION.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Kennedy, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote-
113 May 14,1987
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
Mayor Suarez: You meant for those hearings to be in the neighborhood, right?
Mr. Plummer: No, sir, right here at this Commission Chambers.
Mayor Suarez: Ok.
Mr. Plummer: With, of course, with the neighbors so notified. The same as we
do with the zoning hearings, within 375 feet of the site.
Mr. Gereaux: Fine.
44. AUTHORIZE OFFERS FOR ACQUISITION OF 15 PARCELS IN MODEL CITY FOR
DEVELOPMENT OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING
Mayor Suarez: Item forty-seven.
Mr. Plummer: Move it.
Mayor Suarez: Same thing for ...
Mr. Plummer: With the same provision.
Mayor Suarez: ... model City. Same proviso. Any...
Ms. Kennedy: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded. Any discussion? Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 87-453
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO MAKE
OFFERS TO PROPERTY OWNERS FOR ACQUISITION OF FIFTEEN
PARCELS (PARCELS 02-01 THRU 02-15) WITHIN THE MODEL
CITY COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT TARGET AREA AND WHICH ARE
MORE PARTICULARLY AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED IN THE
ATTACHED EXHIBITS "A" AND "B", TO BE USED FOR THE
DEVELOPMENT OF HOUSING AFFORDABLE TO LOW AND MODERATE
INCOME FAMILIES IN CONNECTION WITH THE CITY SPONSORED
SCATTERED SITE AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM;
FURTHER DIRECTING THAT MAIL NOTICE OF A PUBLIC HEARING
SCHEDULED BEFORE THE CITY COMMISSION BE GIVEN TO ALL
OWNERS OF PROPERTY WITHIN 375 FEET OF THE PROPERTY
LINES OF THE LAND PARCEL SOUGHT TO BE OBTAINED FOR THE
PURPOSE OF OBTAINING CITY COMMISSION APPROVAL OF EACH
ACQUISITION PRIOR TO THE CITY ATTORNEY CLOSING ON
THESE PARCELS AFTER EXAMINATION OF THE ABSTRACT AND
CONFIRMATION OF OPINION OF TITLE; FURTHER DESIGNATING
PREVIOUSLY APPROPRIATED 11TH YEAR COMMUNITY
DEVELOPMENT LAND ACQUISITION FUNDS IN THE AMOUNT OF
$1,000,000 TO COVER THE COST OF SAID ACQUISITION.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk
114 May 14,1987
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Kennedy, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
45. AUTHORIZE NEGOTIATIONS FOR ACQUISITION OF PROPERTY AT 2610 N.W. 25 AVENUE
TO BE USED FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING
Mayor Suarez: Forty-eight.
Mr. Plummer: Move it with the same proviso.
Ms. Kennedy: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded with the same proviso. Any discussion?
Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 87-454
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO NEGOTIATE
UP TO $25,000 WITH PROPERTY OWNER FOR ACQUISITION OF
REAL PROPERTY LOCATED AT 2610 NORTHWEST 25TH AVENUE IN
THE CITY OF MIAMI, LEGALLY DESCRIBED AS THE SOUTH 20
FEET OF LOT 2, AND NORTH 20 FEET OF LOT 3, BLOCK 2 OF
GROVELAND, AS RECORDED IN PLAT BOOK 11 AT PAGE 54 OF
DADE COUNTY PUBLIC RECORDS, TO BE USED FOR THE
DEVELOPMENT OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR LOW AND MODERATE
INCOME FAMILIES; FURTHER AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE
CITY ATTORNEY TO PROCEED TO CLOSE ON THE SAID PROPERTY
AFTER EXAMINATION OF THE ABSTRACT AND CONFIRMATION OF
OPINION OF TITLE; SAID ACQUISITION COSTS TO BE
PROVIDED FROM THE GENERAL OBLIGATION HOUSING BOND
FUND.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Kennedy, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
115 May 14,1987
46. AUTHORIZE OFFERS FOR ACQUISITION OF EIGHT PARCELS IN WYNWOOD FOR
AFFORDABLE HOUSING
Mayor Suarez: Item forty-nine, Wynwood.
Mr. Dawkins: Yes, move it.
Mayor Suarez: Same proviso. tfoved and second.
Ms. Kennedy: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Seconded.
Mr. Plummer: Same provisos, yes.
Mayor Suarez: Any discussion? Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Dawkins, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 87-455
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO MAKE
OFFERS TO PROPERTY OWNERS FOR ACQUISITION OF EIGHT
PARCELS (PARCELS O4-01 THRU 04-08) WITHIN THE WYNWOOD
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT TARGET AREA AND WHICH ARE MORE
PARTICULARLY AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED IN THE ATTACHED
EXHIBITS "A" AND "B", TO BE USED FOR THE DEVELOPMENT
OF HOUSING AFFORDABLE TO LOW AND MODERATE INCOME
FAMILIES IN CONNECTION WITH THE CITY SPONSORED
SCATTERED SITE AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM;
FURTHER DIRECTING THAT MAIL NOTICE OF A PUBLIC HEARING
SCHEDULED BEFORE THE CITY COMMISSION BE GIVEN TO ALL
OWNERS OF PROPERTY WITHIN 375 FEET OF THE PROPERTY
LINES OF THE LAND PARCEL SOUGHT TO BE OBTAINED FOR THE
PURPOSE OF OBTAINING CITY COMMISSION APPROVAL OF EACH
ACQUISITION PRIOR TO THE CITY ATTORNEY CLOSING ON
THESE PARCELS AFTER EXAMINATION OF THE ABSTRACT AND
CONFIRMATION OF OPINION OF TITLE; FURTHER DESIGNATING
PREVIOUSLY APPROPRIATED 11TH YEAR COMMUNITY
DEVELOPMENT LAND ACQUISITION FUNDS IN THE AMOUNT OF
$1,000,000 TO COVER THE COST OF SAID ACQUISITION.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Kennedy, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commmissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
116 May 14,1987
47. AUTHORIZE NEGOTIATIONS FOR NORTH DISTRICT POLICE STATION WITH SINGLE
BIDDER TO ENSURE THAT TOTAL COST DOES NOT EXCEED $5 MILLION
Mayor Suarez: Item fifty.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, if you want me to lead, I've had some discussion on
this. I understand that the bids came in ex... much higher than what, the
dollars that we had allocated. Since there was only a single bidder on this
project, as we all are very much aware and have hammered into the heads of
everyone, that the project shall not exceed $5 million including furniture,
fixtures, lights, keys, telephones, everything; I would like to see if it is
possible, and if legal, Madame City Attorney, to send the administration back
to negotiate with the contractor to see if that figure can be brought back
down within the monies which we have to spend. Is that legal? Since there
was only a single bidder?
Ms. Dougherty: pies, sir. You can always negotiate a better deal. You can't,
of course...
Mr. Plummer: I would, at this time, move that the administration be
instructed to meet with the single bidder to try and accomplish that mandate
of the public in the referendum not to exceed the $5 million figure. In lieu
of that, the manager would come back to the Commission. I so move.
Ms. Kennedy: Second.
Mayor Suarez: So moved and seconded.
Mr. Dawkins: Under discussion.
John Gilchrist: Commissioner. May I say something, Commissioner?
Mayor Suarez: Sure.
Mr. Gilchrist: The... in addition that bid does not include an adequate
minority participation in subcontractors.
Mr. Dawkins: I'm getting to that now.
Mr. Plummer: Oh, I'm sorry.
Mr. Gilchrist: Ok, thank you.
Mr. Dawkins: Ok, no problem, no problem. Number one, Mr. Gilchrist,
through... Mr. Manager, through you to Mr. Gilchrist, how much of the $5
million was paid to Mr. Middlebrook?
Mr. Gilchrist: I think the architectural fee is $380,000.
Mr. Dawkins: Three hundred and eighty. So that's three hundred and eighty
thousand from the five million.
Mr. Gilchrist: That's correct. The total available for construction is $4
million, sir.
A r. Dawkins: Four million?
Mr. Gilchrist: Yes. There are certain set asides for it.
Mr. Dawkins: All right, four... All right, now. For the $380,000, what did
we purchase?
Mr. Gilchrist: We purchased the design, the construction documents, the
supervision during bidding and the future supervision during construction
Mr. Dawkins: Does that, I mean... does that include structural and
engineering?
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Mr. Gilchrist: It includes all aspects of the construction document.
Mr. Dawkins: Do you have anything signed by anybody that they are committed
to the design - I mean the structure and what have you, and the supervision.?
Mr. Gilchrist: Yes, sir, they're signed off by engineers, subcontractors to
the architect.
Mr. Dawkins: Now, in the event that we... you successfully negotiate with the
three W company, is it any way that you... that I do not have to use Joe
Middlebrook anymore in life?
Mr. Plummer: Well, but you've already paid him for supervision.
Mr. Gilchrist: Sir. No, he has not, its... I said future supervision.
Mr. Dawkins: I don't want him supervising nothing.
Mr. Gilchrist: He has not been paid that portion of the contract which is the
supervision during construction.
Mr. Dawkins: Is it... Madame City Attorney, am I legally right to say that
once that... any negotiations, I don't want him negotiat... I want him
negotiated out.
Ms. Dougherty: I can't recall what was in his present contract with respect
to that.
Mr. Gilchrist: Pardon?
Ms. Dougherty: What's in his present contract with re...
Mr. Gilchrist: It's a normal contract with stages, and the stage that we're
in right now, the bidding process he has received a partial payment during
that stage because the bidding has not quite complete, and he has received no
funds for the construction portion of it.
Ms. Dougherty: I'm advised that we can do that, Commissioner Dawkins.
Mr. Dawkins: We can?
Ms. Dougherty: Yes.
Mr. Dawkins: Ok, that's number one. Number two: Three W is supposedly joint
venturing with a white company, ok? Three W has 51 percent of the stock,
supposedly. Madame City Attorney, how can I make sure that they show me that
Three W received 51 percent of the profits?
Ms. Dougherty: We'll just require it. It's required under the contract for
them to prove it to us, and we'll require it.
Mr. Dawkins: I mean, can we see the income tax returns or how do I... how can
I see it and be sure?
Mr. Plummer: How about - how about.
Mayor Suarez: Subject to auditing by the City?
Mr. Plummer: How about when you pay the checks, you pay them in the amounts
of fifty-one forty-nine.
Mr. Dawkins: Ok, all right. Now, this is...
Mr. Gilchrist: You need the right to audit and monitor that, I think.
Mr. Dawkins: Ok. On the Cuban station, there was 51 percent set aside for
Cubans, there's a 51 percent set aside for blacks on the black station. How
do we negotiate that 51 percent of the total dollars on the Latin station will
go to small Latin contractors and 51 percent of the total dollars, I'm not
talking about no stock now, go to small minority black contractors.
118 May 14,1987
Mr. Gilchrist: Commissioner, we'd like to just clarify what you're saying
here. I'd have Linda speak to that, if I may.
Linda Kelley: Commissioner, in the bid specs, we're requiring... we require
the bidder to set aside 51 percent of the dollar value of the contract to
black subcontractors in addition to the percentage to be received by the joint
venture general contractor. So in essence, we're saying that at least 66
percent of this contract should go to blacks. It's a black set aside.
Mr. Dawkins: Ok.
Ms. Kelley: Now, this is in addition to the fi...
Mr. Dawkins: So that will be the same thing with the Latin station; 66percent
has to go to Latin.
Ms. Kelley: Yes, same thing with the Latin station, but I just wanted to
clarify that.
Mr. Dawkins: Ok, now counsel, for the... do you understand that, sir?
Jesse McCray, Esq.: Yes, sir, Jesse Mc...
Mr. Dawkins: Do you... I mean, you have no questions about what we're saying?
Mr. McCray: We don't have any questions.
Mr. Dawkins: All right. Now, when you negotiate this contract according to
J. L.'s wishes, then that's going... that's what we're negotiating on.
Mr. Gilchrist: Yes.
Mr: Dawkins: Sixty-six percent.
Mr. Gilchrist: That has to be part of the negotiation, yes, sir.
Mr. Plummer: Well, there's one other proviso, Mr. Dawkins, that I was going
to add to that, and that was the proviso that any cuts in the level of
construction or, any cuts...
Mr. Gilchrist: In the facility.
Mr. Plummer: Would... in the facility, would have to be brought before this
Commission for approval.
Mr. Dawkins: Well, I was... I talked with the people too, J. L., and I agree
with you, but from talking with them and this is merely, I'm not an... a lot
of stuff was, for the lack of a better word, name brand.
Mr. Plummer: Fluff.
Mr. Dawkins: Yes, uh huh. Where they got a wood oak treated 2 x 4 for $9.00,
and you get another one for $3.00 that will do the same thing.
Mr. Plummer: Exactly, that's where they can cut.
Mr. Dawkins: Ok.
Mr. Plummer: Let me ask you, Mr. Gilchrist, from what I'm reading here,
you're leaving for furniture, fixtures, and all of the things, filing
cabinets, everything that will be needed to open that front door, including
the keys.
Mr. Gilchrist: Yes, sir.
Mr. Plummer: You're leaving $620,000.
Mr. Gilchrist: Yes, sir.
Mr. Plummer: And you think that's adequate?
119 May 14,1987
Mr. Gilchrist: We believe, between the police department and our department
that it is, yes, sir.
Mr. Plummer: I want to tell you, if it is not, I am going to go after people
like you have never seen. The people of this community spoke very clearly, $5
million total. That includes opening the front door for business.
Mr. Gilchrist: Yes, sir.
Mr. Plummer: Joe, God help you if you're not right.
Mr. Dawkins: Mr. McCrary.
Mr. McCrary: Yes, sir.
Mr. Dawkins: Your client understand that he has - it has - $4 million to work
with. Can it bring the station in at $4 million?
Mr. McCrary: Commissioner, I don't know whether the station can be brought in
at $4 million and that's why we are requesting of the Commission to let the
successful bidder meet with staff to see where there can be cuts. I quite
agree with you, Commissioner...
Mr. Dawkins: Ok, all right now.
Mr. McCrary: ... that a reading of the plans and some of the things that we
probably using Cadillac nails on paper and we could use Volkswagen nails.
That kind of thing and, obviously, there could be some cuts in this project.
Mr. Dawkins: All right. Now, this is urgent. So this has to be done as
quickly as possible.
Mr. McCrary: Yes, sir.
Mr. Dawkins: The second thing is, between your client and the City of Miami,
how quickly can we get this station started? We have been... this has been
going on longer than anybody wants.
Mr. McCrary: Commissioner, it's really in the public works for construction,
so I wanted Mr. Cather to respond to that. He tells me that he believes two
weeks time to negotiate to come back
Mr. Dawkins: Ok, one more question. Mr. Manager, how much are we paying Mr.
Vince Graham a year?
(Inaudible response off mike)
Mr. Dawkins: Ok. What - does he have a GC license?
Mr. Gilchrist: Does he have a general contractor's...
Mr. Odio: No, he doesn't have it. I don't think he has one. He does not
have one.
Mr. Dawkins: All right, Pete Long got a GC license?
Mr. Odio: No, but we have a man in property maintenance that has a GC
license...
Mr. Dawkins: You see, because in the event, I'm going to give you some
instructions, sir.
Mr. Odio: Alex Martinez has, is a general con...
Mr. Dawkins: In the event that these gentlemen cannot build this station for
$4 million, you've got Pete Long you're paying $60,000 a year doing nothing -
in my opinion, ok. We got Mr. Vince Graham who works when we have... when we
want to. We've got our own GC within the GSA, so there, with our own GSA, you
cut out the general contractor's fee. And with these two men already on
retainer at $60,000 or better a year, you've got supervision for the station.
So it's no reason for you not to come back here, either with them doing the
station or the City of. Miami doing the station.
120 May 14,1987
Mr. Odio: We charge the same thing we charge on other work around here, it'll
cost $10 million... er, no, seriously, I'll look into it.
Mr. Dawkins: Oh no, come_ on, I know that, ok, right.
Mr. Odio: I used to be in that business.
Mr. Dawkins: All right, see, but, what...
Mr. McCrary: What you're suggesting is that the City itself act as a
construction manager and do the project by letting out to subcontractors.
Mr. Dawkins: I - that's right - yes, I expect you to come back - how long is
it going to take you to negotiate, counsel?
Mr. McCrary: It depends on the City. I think they mentioned two weeks.
Mayor Suarez: Two weeks sounds like maximum amount.
Mr. Dawkins: All right, two weeks, that's May... all right, on our May what
meeting, May twenty?
Mr. McCrary: Eighth.
Mr. Dawkins: Eighth. At our May 28th meeting, Mr. Manager, I expect you to
either come back and tell me that you signed the contract with them to do it
or you're telling me how we are going to do it. And that there'll be a date
on day that you can break ground, and the people will see this station coming
up out of the ground. Ok?
Mr. Plummer: For my edification, what was the bid that was received? How
much?
Mr. McCrary: Four million, nine hundred thousand and the goal was four
million, sir.
Mr. Plummer: So it was $900,000 overbid.
Mayor Suarez: It was twenty-four percent; twenty-four percent in excess.
Mr. Plummer: Ok.
Mr. McCrary: Thank you.
Mayor Suarez: Consider talking to Donald Trump too, to see if he can build it
for $4 million bucks. I'll bet you he could. Call the roll.
Mr. Plummer: Well, not on item fifty. We're not accepting the bid. So it's,
what it is is we're deferring item fifty for further negotiations.
Mayor Suarez: I thought we were giving a set of rather detailed instructions
to the manager on how to proceed; that's not just deferring.
Mr. Plummer: Yes, but item fifty is accepting the bid, so we're not...
Mayor Suarez: I'm sorry, it's not on item fifty as presented, it's on item
fifty as we have... right.
Mr. Plummer: ...accepting... right, agreed upon, yes.
Mayor Suarez: Ok. With that understanding, moved and seconded.
Mr. Plummer: I moved it, yes.
Mayor Suarez: Call the roll.
121 May 14,1987
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved
its adoption:
MOTION NO. 87-456
A MOTION AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO
NEGOTIATE WITH THE SINGLE BIDDER OF THE NORTH DISTRICT
POLICE SUBSTATION TO ENSURE THAT THE TOTAL COST DOES
NOT EXCEED $5 MILLION; FURTHER STIPULATING THAT ANY
CUTS IN THE FACILITY MUST BE SUBJECT TO CITY
COMMISSION APPROVAL; FURTHER INSTRUCTING THE CITY
MANAGER TO BRING SAID ISSUE BACK BEFORE THE CITY
COMMISSION ON MAY 28TH WITH THE FINAL PLAN.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Kennedy, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Co►ru-nissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
48. CONTINUED DISCUSSION RE: AUTHORIZE INTERVIEW OF THREE COMMUNITY BASED
NOT -FOR -PROFIT CORPORATIONS FOR MANAGEMENT SERVICES AT BAYFRONT PARK (See
label #30)
Mayor Suarez: I think we have some appointments...
Mr. Odio: Fifty-two.
Mayor Suarez: Fifty two, I believe, is Commissioner Plummer's.
Mr. Plummer: What about fifty-one?
Ms. Kennedy: We did it this morning.
Mr. Plummer: Oh, no, no, no, no, no, when did you, I'm... no, no... no, no,
I've got...
Mayor Suarez: Just as you walked out, we took it up.
Mr. Plummer: I... obviously, I reconsider fifty-one, I wasn't...
Ms. Kennedy: Ok, then, then - hold on a second, if you want to reconsider
fifty-one, I ask that it be tabled for later because there were some people
here who left because I told them that it had passed. So, in that case, if
you want it open for discussion, then...
Mr. Plummer: Well, the only thing I wanted to get in there, Rosario, was...
Mayor Suarez: Ask the questions. Maybe we clarified them.
Mr. Plummer: Ok, the question that I had was, is that there... what you're
doing, in fact, is negotiating with three different concerns. Have they...
Ms. Kennedy: Three different concerns.
Mr. Plummer: That's what it says here.
Ms. Kennedy: Three different not -for -profit corporations.
Mr. Odio: You'd be interviewing three different concerns.
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Mr. Plummer: Have they been named?
Mr. Odio: No, I have to see who...
Mayor Suarez: No less than three, but there's no specific ones.
Ms. Dougherty: fie will... he will seek out three...
Mr. Plummer: Well, you know...
Ms. Dougherty: ... fie will interview them, he will negotiate with them and
bring it back to you.
Mr. Plummer: You know who one of them is. You know, that's like we're
meeting at City Hall to review this coming November's election results.
Mayor Suarez: Yes, and you know who wants to be a chairman of one.
Ms. Kennedy: Well, why don't we table it for later.
Mayor Suarez: All he's doing, he's going to start...
Mr. Plummer: All right, go ahead. You negotiate with them, but I'm going to
be watching you.
Mayor Suarez: Carefully.
Mr. Plummer: Extremely so.
Mayor Suarez: Item. We never voted on a motion to reconsider, thank God, ok.
Item fifty-two, Commissioner Plummer's appointment to the Ad Hoc Minority
Advisory Committee.
Mr. Plummer: Ah, next meeting.
Mayor Suarez: Why do I have John Blaisdell here?
Mr. Plummer: What?
Mr. Odio: Listen, Houston...
Mayor Suarez: No, I mean I just have it here on the notes from the agenda
meeting as if...
Mr. Odio: No, no...
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49. APPOINT WILLIAM ALEXANDER AND JORGE DE TUYA TO THE PRIVATE INDUSTRY
COUNCIL
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Mayor Suarez: Ok. Fifty-three to the PIC Council, Private Industry Council.
Mr. Plummer: Who's appointments are up?
Mayor Suarez: There's no...
Mr. Odio: No...
Mayor Suarez: ... particular - four members.
Ms. Francena Brooks: It's the entire Commission.
Mr. Plummer: You gave us a list, right?
Mr. Odio: Yes, sir.
Ms. Brooks: Right, um hum.
Mr. Plummer: Read the names.
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Ms. Brooks: Ok.
Mr. Plummer: Bill Alexander was one.
Mayor Suarez: We have... we have a total of five. It's four members...
Mr. Dawkins: What number is this?
Mr. Odio: Jorge de Tuya, Joseph Middlebrooks..
Ms. Brooks: This is item fifty-three.
Mayor Suarez: Fifty-three.
Mr. Dawkins: Fifty-three.
Mayor Suarez: We have a total of five, so we could go one each.
Mr. Plummer: No, no, no, that's not right. Mine is not up.
Ms. Brooks: Pardon me?
Mr. Plummer: My appointment is not up; the one that I appointed to that
board.
Mr. Dawkins: Ok, the vacancy was Mr....
Ms. Brooks: No, these are - the whole Commission.
Mr. Dawkins: Eduardo Pedra... Eduardo resigned, and Mr. Guilford was killed
in an automobile accident.
Ms. Brooks: Right.
Mr. Dawkins: Now, those are the two.
Mr. Carollo: Mr. Who?
Mr. Dawkins: Guilford.
Ms. Brooks: There are a total of five appointments that need to be made.
Three of them, the PIC has recommended reappointment of individuals that are
currently on the PIC.
Mr. Plummer: That's, ah...
Ms. Brooks: And those three persons are William Alexander...
Mr. Plummer: Right.
Ms. Brooks: Jorge de Tuya and Joseph Middlebrooks. In addition, Alvin
Guilford died, and therefore, an appointment is needed for his seat.
Mr. Plummer: Right.
Ms. 11prooks: And Eduardo Padron resigned and an appointment is needed for his
seat. The PIC, in that case, has recommended Dr. Roosevelt Thomas, who is
vice president at the University of Miami. So the PIC has recommended
appointments in four of the cases.
Mr. Plummer: How many appointments does the City have total?
Ms. Brooks: The City has a total of eight appointments.
Mr. Plummer: Ok, who are the other three? I know Josephine is one.
Ms. Brooks: Yes, the other three persons are Melvin Chavez of SIR...
Mr. Plummer: Ok.
Ms. Brooks: Josefina Bonet ----- from -----....
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Mr. Plummer: Right.
Ms. Brooks: ... and Elma Laba.
Mr. Plummer: Ok. Mr. Mayor, I guess it's time for me to speak up. There is
not a single Anglo vote from the City of Miami out of eight appointments.
Mr. Dawkins: And not one black female.
Mr. Plummer: Ok? I didn't say that for your benefit. Now, I... you know...
Mr. Dawkins: Wheeeeee, this is beautiful!
Mr. Plummer: I think that there has to be consideration out of eight
appointments for one, so called, Anglo. That's the only thing I bring to your
attention.
Ms. Brooks: Right.
Mr. Dawkins: Well, nominate one.
Mayor Suarez: Nominate one.
Mr. Dawkins: Quickly!
Mr. Plummer: I didn't come prepared to...
Mayor Suarez: Richard Pettigrew.
Ms. Brooks: Let me just mention that... yes, let me, let me...
Mayor Suarez: Richard Pettigrew, I see him there.
Ms. Brooks: Oh, you see his name here, ok.
Ms. Kennedy: I think he wants more than that.
Mayor Suarez: No, no, I see him back there behind you.
Ms. Brooks: Oh. Ok.
Mayor Suarez: Former state senator and chairman of the party of the State of
Florida.
Mr. Plummer: It would be my honor, Dick, if you would accept it.
Mr. Pettigrew: I will.
Mayor Suarez: There you go.
Mr. Plummer: You accept it? So be it. I would be...
Ms. Brooks: Could I clarify one thing?
Mr. Plummer: Yes.
Ms. Brooks: The appointments that are made have to come from a list of
eligible nominees, which is attached in your package as Exhibit 2, to this
item.
Ms. Kennedy: Ok, so much for that.
Mr. Dawkins: So we - so.
Ms. Brooks: So we need to check to see if his name...
Mr. Dawkins: No, what we will do is, close the list, add his name, and bring
the list back, and that makes him eligible.
Ms. Brooks: All right, fine, yes.
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Mr. Plummer: Ok.
Mr. Dawkins: No problem. If you don't bring the list back, then we won't
accept it with his name on it.
Ms. Brooks: Ok.
Mr. Dawkins: Ok.
Ms. Brooks: Which seat are you recommending him for?
Mr. Dawkins: Joe Middlebrooks' seat.
Ms. Brooks: Richard Pettigrew,
Mr. Dawkins: Yes, for Joe Middlebrook.
Mr. Plummer: He said Joe Middlebrook.
Mayor Suarez: We still have a vacant seat.
Ms. Brooks: We have an additional vacant seat.
Mayor Suarez: Laurie Weldon.
Mr. Dawkins: Wait a minute - well, hold it now, we don't have one black
female on there.
Mayor Suarez: That's Laurie.
Mr. Dawkins: I know it. Laurie wants to serve? She'll raise hell on there,
so I definitely need her.
. Mayor Suarez: That's right.
Mr. Dawkins: That's good, no problem.
Ms. Brooks: Laurie Weldon?
Mr. Dawkins: But now you've got to bring her name back because she's not on
the list too, so we'll have to add her list name. Ok, no problem.
Ms. Brooks: Yes, she's not on there now, right.
Mayor Suarez: Bring it back to us with those recommendations and we'll take a
vote at that time.
Ms. Brooks: Ok.
Mayor Suarez: Do you want to take a vote on the reappointments? Or do we...
Ms. Brooks: Do you want me to read through all of them?
Mr. Plummer: So move them.
Mayor Suarez: So moved.
Mr. Dawkins: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Second. Any discussion? Call the roll.
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The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 87-457
A RESOLUTION APPOINTING FOUR (4) MEMBERS OF THE PRIVATE
INDUSTRY COUNCIL (PIC) OF SOUTH FLORIDA FOR TERMS TO
EXPIRE JUNE 30, 1988, AND ONE (1) MEMBER OF THF. PIC OF
SOUTH FLORIDA, FOR A TERM TO EXPIRE JUNE 30, 1989.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here
and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Dawkins, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOERt None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
50. APPOINT CHARLES PEREIRA AND WALTER B. MARTINEZ TO THE LATIN QUARTER
REVIEW BOARD (See label #31)
Mayor Suarez: You never know what you're going to get appointed to when you
show up at City Hall here.
Mr. Plummer: Yes.
Mayor Suarez: Item fifty...
Mr. Plummer: Who are the appointments up?
Mayor Suarez: ... four.
Mr. Plummer: The Latin Review.
Ms. Brooks: Let me read them.
Mayor Suarez: I'm sorry, we did that in the morning.
Carollo's; we did it.
Mr. Plummer: Oh, ok.
It was Commissioner
Mayor Suarez: Item fifty-five, Miami Waterfront Board. I think one of the...
Mr. Carollo (off mike): ....there were two...
Mayor Suarez: Yes, you had two on fifty-four. You had another one?
Mr. Plummer: No, I've got one of them, don't I?
Mr. Carollo (off mike): I'll name - the other will be Charles Pereira.
Mr. Plummer: Which one?
Mayor Suarez: No, they were both Carolllo's on fifty-four.
Mr. Carollo: Charles Pereira.
Mayor Suarez: Charles Pereira. Moved.
Mr. Carollo: No relationship to the...
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Mayor Suarez: To the county manager.
Mr. Plummer: To the what?
Mayor Suarez: To the county manager.
Mr. Plummer: Oh, oh.
Mr. Carollo (off mike): ... tobacco smoking ...
Mr. Plummer: Who were the two vacancies on the Waterfront Hoard?
Mayor Suarez: We haven't got to that yet.
Mr. Plummer: Oh, I'm sorry.
Mayor Suarez: That's the...
Mr. Plummer: You're talking about the Latin Review?
Mayor Suarez: You got it. Fifty-four.
Mr. Plummer: I second the motion.
Mayor Suarez: Seconded. Moved and seconded. Any discussion? Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Carollo, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 87-458
A RESOLUTION APPOINTING CERTAIN INDIVIDUALS TO THE
CITY OF MIAMI LATIN QUARTER REVIEW BOARD FOR
APPROXIMATELY A TWO YEAR TERM OF OFFICE ENDING
FEBRUARY 27, 1989
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
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51. APPOINT DARIO PEDRAJO, DANIEL KIPNIS, AND ARMANDO PARES TO THE WATERFRONT
BOARD
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Mayor Suarez: Miami Waterfront Board. I don't' know, do they go by
Commissioners? Or do we just sort of appoint them?
Mr. Plummer: Yes, no, we didn't. Who's up on that?
Mayor Suarez: Whose vacancies?
Mr. Dawkins: For what? Waterfront?
Mayor Suarez: Waterfront Board.
Mr. Plummer: Yes, I think I've got one. One of mine is up for
reappointment - Pedrajo Perado. I so move that he be reappointed.
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Mr. Dawkins: And who's the other one? Who has
the other one?
Mr. Walter Golby: The mayor has Dan Kipnis.
Mr. Plummer: Dan Kipnis, Captain Dan.
Mayor Suarez: I'll move to reappoint Dan.
Mr. Plummer: lie's an excellent...
Mr. Golby: Commissioner Carollo; Armando Pares.
(Inaudible response off mike)
Mr. Golby: Armando Pares - Pares.
Mayor Suarez: Not to be confused with Demetrio
Perez.
Ms. Kennedy: Please.
Mayor Suarez: Do you move that appoint...
Mr. Carollo (off mike): Yes.
Mayor Suarez: So moved, all three, is that it?
Finis?
Mr. Plummer: Three is all there is?
(Inaudible response off mike)
Mr. Plummer: Who are the two alternates?
Mrs. Kennedy: Who are they?
Mr. Plummer: Well, ask the board to recommend to
us for the alternates. I so
move the three names as presented.
Mayor Suarez: So moved.
Ms. Kennedy: Second it.
Mayor Suarez: Seconded. Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced
by Commissioner Plummer, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 87-459
A RESOLUTION APPOINTING CERTAIN INDIVIDUALS TO SERVE
ON THE MIAMI WATERFRONT BOARD.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Kennedy, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
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52. APPOINT ROGER BIAMBY AND PATRICK WHITE TO THE AFFIRMATIVE ACTION ADVISORY
BOARD.
Mayor Suarez: Fifty-six, I've got one appointment. In lieu of Charles Cash,
and I nominate Roger Biamby.
Mr. Dawkins: He lives in Haiti. We don't...
Mayor Suarez: To - to the affirmative action advisory board.
Mr. Dawkins: We don't have nothing in Little Haiti.
Mr. Plummer: How many vacancies are there?
Hattie Daniels: There is one vacancy, Commissioner Plummer. And two
reappointments.
Mr. Dawkins: Second it.
Mr. Plummer: Who was the vacancy created by?
Mayor Suarez: Charles Cash had been appointed by the Mayor.
Mr. Plummer: And you're naming the...
Mayor Suarez: I'm suggesting...
Mr. Plummer: Roger?
Mayor Suarez: Right.
Mr. Plummer: That's fine.
Mr. Dawkins: To re... to replace...
Ms. Kennedy: You're suggesting who?
Mayor Suarez: Roger Biamby.
Mr. Dawkins: Second.
Mayor Suarez: From H.A.C.A.D. Moved and seconded. Any discussion? Call the
roll.
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
Mayor Suarez: Item fifty-seven, Commissioner Plummer.
Ms. Daniels: Excuse me.
Mayor Suarez: I'm sorry.
Ms. Daniels: You have another reappointment which would be Patrick White.
That's your appointment Commissioner Dawkins,
Mr. Dawkins: Who. So do... so re...
Ms. Daniels: He needs to be reappointed.
Mayor Suarez: Move to reappoint.
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Mr. Plummer: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Move to reappoint Patrick White. Seconcd. Any dis�cl:ssion?
Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Dawkins, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 87-460
A RESOLUTION APPOINTING A CERTAIN INDIVIDUAL TO FILL
ONE VACANCY ON THE CITY OF MIAMI AFFIRMATIVE ACTION
ADVISORY BOARD AND REAPPOINTING CERTAIN INDIVIDUALS TO
SAID BOARD.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, .hr, resoDitior ;,>a, passed
and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
Ms. Daniels: One new appointment, Commissioner Plummer, I believe that's
yours. You said that you would appoint an Anglo to the board.
Mr. Plummer: I don't remember.
Ms. Daniels: The previous meeting.
Mr. Plummer: Then I will get you one for the next meeting.
Ms. Daniels: Yes, all right. Thank you.
Mr. Dawkins: You're really sticking up for the Anglos today, J. L., you know
that?
Ms. Kennedy: Yes, you're really walking it up today.
Mr. Plummer: Living it up. One out of eight, that ain't bad.
Mr. Dawkins: All right.
53. APPOINT JAMES ARMSTRONG TO THE AUDIT COMMITTEE TO REVIEW THE DADE WATER
AND SEWER AUTHORITY BUDGET
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Mayor Suarez: Item fifty-seven...
Mr. Plummer: That's my...
Mayor Suarez: ...Audit Review Committee, nomination by Plummer.
Ms. Kennedy: That's your's too?
Mr. Plummer: Yes, I nominate Mr. James Armstrong, who has agreed to serve.
Mr. Dawkins: Second.
Mayor Suarez: So moved and second. Any discussion? Call the roll.
131 May 14,1987
The following, resolution was introduced by Commissioner 1'lu«uner, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 87-461
A RESOLUTION DESIGNATING AND APPOINTING ONE INDIVIDUAL
TO SERVE. AS A MEMBER ON THE AUDIT REVIEW COMMITTEE
ESTABLISiiED BY DADE COUNTY ORDINANCE NO. 86-8, ADOPTED
FEBRUARY 4, 1986, ENTITLED: "ORDINANCE ESTABLISHING
AN AUDIT REVIEW COMMITTEE TO PERFORM AN ANNUAL REVIEW
OF THE MIAMI-DADE WATER AND SEWER AUTHORITY
DEPARTMENT'S BUDGETS AND SEGREGATION OF FUNDS;
PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE;" FURTHER DIRECTING THE
CITY CLERK TO FORWARD TO A CERTIFIED COPY OF THIS
RESOLUTION TO THE CLERK OF THE BOARD OF COUNTY
COMMISSIONERS OF DADE COUNTY, FLORIDA.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted Here and on
file in the Office of. the City Clerk
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Dawkins, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
54. ALLOCATE $2500 TO PUERTO RICO FESTIVAL COMMITTEE
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Mayor Suarez: Item fifty-eight, we've done. Item fifty-nine, representatives
of the Puerto Rico Festival committee.
Mr. Odio: Miss Alicia Baro called, and she was tied up in a closing...
Mayor Suarez: All right.
Mr. Odio: They're requesting $2,500 for Puerto Rico Day. They want to use
the Coconut Grove Exhibition Center, including the stage plus.
Ms. Kennedy: Move it.
Mayor Suarez: Moved.
Mr. Dawkins: Is it available with the work going on?
Mr. Odio: The day is available.
Mr. Dawkins: Beg pardon.
Mr. Odio: It is available,
Mr. Dawkins: All right, it's been properly moved and seconded, let's vote.
Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded. Any discussion? Call the roll on fifty-
nine.
132 May 14,1987
The followinc•, resolution -gas introduced by C(-ir.missioner Kennedy, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION 140. 87-462
A RESOLUTI014 ALLOCATING AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED 42,500
FROM SPECIAL PROGRAMS AND ACCOUNTS, CONTINGENT FUND,
TO COVER THE COST OF THE RENTAL OF THE COCONUT GROVE
EXHIBITION CENTER AND EQUIPMENT, IN CONNECTION WITH
"PUERTO RICO DAY" TO BE HELD JULY 26, 1987; SAID
ALLOCATION BEING CONDITIONED UPON SUBSTANTIAL.
COMPLIANCE WITH CIT'i OF MIAMI ADMINISTRATIVE POLICY
NO. API.1-1-84 , DATED J ANUARY 24, 1984.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted floe Inc, on
file in the Office of the City Clerk
Upon being seconded by Commissioner , the resolution was passed and
adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
55. ALLOCATE $50,000 TO THE ALLAPATTAH BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY FOR
THEIR FAIR.
Mayor Suarez: Item sixty.
Mr. Odio: This is a group from Allapattah, and they're preparing this...
Mayor Suarez: ABDA again.
Mr. Odio: ... fund raising festival. We have talked to Mr. Urra. We have met
with them there. Some funds available from the Off Street Parking monies
that - of the $500,000. I would recommend that we provide $20,000...
Mayor Suarez: What was the figure?
Mr. Odio: Twenty thousand.
Mayor Suarez: Twenty thousand dollars from the Off Street Parking surplus?
Mr. Plummer: All right. I'll tell you what we're going to do. We're going
to give them $50,000, but if they make any money, we get half of it back.
Mr. Dawkins: Wait now. We already said we were going to give them something
out of that $50,000, didn't we?
Mr. Plummer: Yes, that's right. But what I'm saying is, we're going to give
fifty, but if they make money, then they've got to pay half of it back to the
City.
Mr. Dawkins: But, but... but we've already said - they came and asked for
something. We gave them... we said we would give it to them out of that
fifty-five... all I'm saying is, I don't want to make promises to them for two
things out of one pot.
Mr. Plummer: No. no, no. Two separate deals.
Mr. Dawkins: Ok.
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Ms. Kennedy: Let. me ask something - this is for my own edification.
Mr. Dawkins: Ok, all right.
Ms. Kennedy: ... Calle Ocho is considered a festival, what is the difference
between Calle Ocho and this group?
Mr. Plummer: One is economic development.
Mr. Odio: This was to raise funds for economic de .�loi)ment . They - and I
believe that if they can raise these funds and revert them t).,c:k into that
community, is less monies that we have to provide for them in the future. The
festival in Calle Ocho, even though it's great for everything else, but it
doesn't bring any - it doesn't...
Ms. Kennedy: And this one does?
Mr. Plummer: Careful, Leslie just had a heart attack.
Mr. Odio: I, I... Leslie and I have talked about this many times. lie knows
my feelings about it. It's not culture either.
Mr. Plummer: I move item sixty as modified.
Mr. Dawkins: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Item sixty, moved as modified. Seconded. Any discussion?
Call the roll.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved
its adoption:
MOTION NO. 87-463
A MOTION AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO
ALLOCATE $50,000 TO THE ALLAPATTAH BUSINESS
DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY, INC. FOR THE ANNUAL ALLAPATTAH
FAIR TO BE HELD ON DECEMBER 11-13, 1987 AT CURTIS
PARK; FURTHER STIPULATING THAT IF ANY PROFITS ARE
DERIVED FROM SAID EVENT, THE CITY SHALL RECEIVE ONE
HALF OF THE PROCEEDS.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Dawkins, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
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56. EMERGENCY ORDINANCE: ISSUE GENERAL OBLIGATION REFUNDING BONDS (See label
#34)
Mayor Suarez: Item sixty-three. Is thirty-two...
Mr. Dawkins: What about sixty-one?
three? Sixty-one and sixty-two.
Mr. Odio: Sixty-one.
How did you get all the way to sixty -
Mayor Suarez: I missed. I was thinking of thirty-two because...
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Ms. Kennedy: It's .again the...
Mayor Suarez: ...I'm told that. thirty-two is ready to be brought back up for
consideration with the modifications made. I'm sorry.
Mr. Dawkins: Well go ahead. I'll move thirty-two then. I move sixty...
thirty-two.
Mayor Suarez: Thirty-two is the one that you were concerned ahmiL, you have
to...
Mr. Dawkins: Yes, I moved it.
Mayor Suarez: Ok.
Mr. Dawkins: I move it with the necessary corrections.
Mayor Suarez: So moved. Do we have a second?
Mr. Plummer: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Seconded. Any discussion? Call the roll.
Mr. Plummer: As revised.
Mayor Suarez: Read the ordinance, I'm sorry.
AT THIS POINT, THE CITY ATTORNEY READS THE EMERGENCY ORDINANCE.
Mayor Suarez: Call the roll.
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN EMERGENCY ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA,
AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE OF NOT TO EXCEED $40,000,000
IN AGGREGATE PRINCIPAL AMOUNT OF GENERAL OBLIGATION
REFUNDING BONDS, SERIES 1987, OF THE CITY FOR THE
PURPOSE OF REFUNDING ALL OR A PORTION OF THE CITY'S
FIRE FIGHTING, FIRE PREVENTION AND RESCUE FACILITIES
BONDS, POLICE HEADQUARTERS AND CRIME PREVENTION
FACILITIES BONDS, STORM SEWER IMPROVEMENT BONDS,
SANITARY SEWER SYSTEM BONDS AND STREET AND HIGHWAY
IMPROVEMENT BONDS, ALL DATED APRIL 1, 1985; DECLARING
AN EMERGENCY TO EXIST; PROVIDING THAT SUCH GENERAL
OBLIGATION REFUNDING BONDS SHALL, SUBJECT TO CERTAIN
LIMITATIONS, CONSTITUTE GENERAL OBLIGATIONS OF THE
CITY, AND THAT, SUBJECT TO SUCH LIMITATIONS, THE FULL
FAITH CREDIT AND TAXING POWER OF THE CITY SHALL BE
IRREVOCABLY PLEDGED FOR THE PAYMENT OF THE, PRINCIPAL
OF AND THE INTEREST ON SUCH GENERAL OBLIGATION
REFUNDING BONDS; MAKING CERTAIN COVENANTS AND
AGREEMENTS IN CONNECTION THEREWITH; APPROVING THE FORM
OF AN ESCROW DEPOSIT AGREEMENT; AUTHORIZING THE
NEGOTIATED SALE OF SUCH GENERAL OBLIGATION REFUNDING
BONDS; APPROVING THE FORM OF AND AUTHORIZING THE
EXECUTION OF A BOND PURCHASE AGREEMENT; AUTHORIZING
THE CITY MANAGER OR HIS DESIGNEE TO AWARD THE SALE OF
THE BONDS AND TO APPOINT AN ESCROW AGENT, A PAYING
AGENT AND A BONI) REGISTRAR; APPROVING THE CONDITIONS
AND CRITERIA OF SUCH SALE; APPROVING THE FORM OF A
PRELIMINARY OFFICIAL STATEMENT AND OFFICIAL STATEMENT;
AUTHORIZING CERTAIN OFFICIALS AND EMPLOYEES OF THE
CITY TO TAKE ALL ACTIONS REQUIRED IN CONNECTION WITH
THE ISSUANCE OF SAID BONDS; AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE
DATE.
Was introduced by Commissioner Dawkins and seconded by Commissioner
Plummer, for adoption as an emergency measure and dispensing with the
requirement of reading same on two separate days, which was agreed to by the
following vote-
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AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
Whereupon the Commission on motion of Commissioner Dawkins and seconded
by Commissioner Plummer, adopted said ordinance by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
SAID ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO. 10272.
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and
announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commission and
to the public.
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57. REQUEST PLAN FOR DEVELOPMENT OF PORTION OF FERN ISLE PARK
Mayor Suarez: Item sixty-one. You guys again? How many one days,
at an all
time record or not?
Mr. Dawkins: You know...
Mayor Suarez: Not that Allapat.tah doesn't need it, but.... you got a lawyer
now. You're liable to lose now. Counselor, good to see you.
Mr. Simon Ferro, Esq.: Mr. Mayor, Commissioners. My name is -
likewise,
thank you. My name is Simon Ferro. I'm an attorney with offices at
999 Ponce
de Leon Blvd. I represent the Allapattah Business Development Authority.
Mr. Plummer: Are you a registered lobbyist?
Mr. Ferro: That's a very good question, Commissioner.
Mr. Plummer: No, it's not a very good... it's...
Mr. Ferro: No, to be very honest with you, I was asked to be here
today, and
I don't believe that I have filed my...
Mayor Suarez: Are you compensated for your appearance?
Ms. Kennedy: Are you compensated for your services?
Mr. Ferro: I did register? Oh, I'm sorry. I did register several
months ago
if that is a...
Mr. Plummer: That's fine.
Mayor Suarez: Oh yes, still valid.
Mr. Ferro: Thank you. We are here today to propose to request...
Ms. Dougherty: I don't have my opinion...
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Mr. Ferro: ...tlii.s Commission to refer an item for consideration to the
housing agency. The Allapattah Business Development Authority has long been an
advocate, proponent, and supporter of redevelopment within Allapat.t.ah and
within the City of Miami. They have identified a parcel of property,
presently owned by the City, which is part of Fern Isle Park. That piece of
property is located to the west of Fern Isle Park. It is triangular in shape,
approximately three acres bounded to the north by Comfort Canal, and to the
south by the 836 expressway. It is presently not being used for park
purposes; presently being used as a temporary dump facility by the City of
Miami Public Works department to store gravel and other fill material as they
may be needed for development within the City. They've identified this
property as a very desirable site for possibility combined elderly housing and
moderate to low income }lousing for sale to individuals within those ranges.
Our request today is limited to asking this Commission to refer to the housing
agency, this piece of property - Mr. City Manager.
Mr. Odio: If you would, Commissioners, in order to save time, we
will have to, and you can make your presentation then, if we can have him meet
with the housing agency, let them review it with parks and....
Mr. Dawkins: No, I'm for giving... I mean, bring your agency back - bring
your people back in here; call them in here.
Mr. Ferro: I know where they went to.
Ms. Dougherty: Don't forget, competitive bidding.
Mr. Plummer: Don't forget what?
Ms. Dougherty: Competitive bidding to give property away.
Mr. Plummer: We got to do that?
Ms. Dougherty: Unless you....
Mr. Plummer: What?
Mayor Suarez: The entire ABDA has walked out in the middle of their
presentation.
Mr. Dawkins: Yes, they're telling him that I don't want no part of it.
Mayor Suarez: Oh, I know that's what they're doing.
Mr. Dawkins: That's right.
Mayor Suarez: You get the message.
Mr. Dawkins: The... I agree, Mr. Manager, this group has been up twice, and
twice they got turned down. I'm for giving them the land to develop for
housing because they have stood by while we gave two other groups the land.
But I've personally got a problem with one or their members. Now, that's
their group, see, so I just want them to know that if they... I want them to
go with you and the planning department, and come up... when you come back, I
want a package that can fly, that they can start with; I don't want to have to
go through no negotiations and trying to fool anybody or what have you. But,
I want... you sit down, I want to give them the land...
Mr. Plummer: No, no, no.
Mr. Dawkins: I mean sell it to them, that's right.
Mr. Plummer: No, no. No, no. The same conditions as what we have done with
the others.
Mr. Dawkins: That's right.
Mr. Plummer: There is a percentage to be negotiated. If this program is
going to continue, we can't dry up all the funds.
Ms. Dougherty: Commissioner...
137 May 14,1987
Mr. Plummer: So, there's got to be a percentage that's got to come back to
the City.
Ms. Dougherty: Commissioner Dawkins and Commissioner Plummer.
Mr. Dawkins: No problem. But let them come back with a workable plan, ok?
Ms. Dougherty: This is different.
Mr. Dawkins: No sense... ok?
Mr. Plummer: What?
Ms. Dougherty: Those were owned by Dade...
Mr. Odio: Ok, Commissioner, we'll bring it back in the first meeting of June.
Mr. Dawkins: First meeting of June?
Mr. Odio: Yes, sir.
Mr. Dawkins: Ok.
Mr. Odio: June lith.
Mr. Plummer: gait a minute, hold on, hold on. Simon, you'd better hear what
she's got to say.
(Inaudible response)
Mr. Plummer: Yes, she's got big problems.
Ms. Dougherty: This property is owned by the City of Miami. Those two other
projects were owned, entitled, by Dade County. They have different
competitive bidding requirements. We have to either competitively bid it, or
you're going to have to declare an emergency before we can dispose of this
land. Now my ques...
Mr. Dawkins: Can we...
Ms. Dougherty: ...the other option perhaps is, remember, we made an exception
to the "Carollo amendment" of our charter, requiring three bids at the last
time. We're going to propose that as a referendum. You want to also propose,
as a referendum, the being able to dispose of City owned property for housing
without competitive bidding?
Mr. Dawkins: No.
Ms. Dougherty: You don't want that requirement?
Mr. Dawkins: I don't know.
Ms. Dougherty: Ok. Then the only...
Mr. Plummer: Well, wasn't the, excuse me, wait a minute now...
Mayor Suarez: We told her to bring it back for hearings.
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Mr. Dawkins: I don't know. I don't know. But what happened...
Mr. Plummer: I yeah, ok. We put wording in there that if it was a City
project, that the charter amendment did not apply.
Ms. Dougherty: That's the Watson Island project.
Mr. Plummer: Oh, that's just Watson Island?
Ms. Dougherty: Separately, what we did was with respect to the other "Carollo
amendment," which requires before we lease or sell any City owned property...
Mr. Dawkins: Well -what - what...
138 May 14,1987
Ms. Dougherty: ... that we havp at least three bids or go to referendum; to
that one we made a cavoaat. we carved out affordable Housing.
Mr. Dawkins: What could happen if the City were to joint venture with this CD
to protect... I'm J"st trying to guess out, to produce land on a turnkey
fashion or something, could you do that?
Ms. Dougherty: It's the same thing. If we're going to sell, lease, dispose,
convey - any kind of disposition of land - then we either have to
competitively bid it or you have to declare an emergency.
Mayor Suarez: What about a...
Mr. Dawkins: Competitive... tile bid...
Mayor Suarez: ... restrictive RFP in the way that we did the St.. John's
Economic Development. Corporation Project?
Mr. Plummer: That was not. City property, was it?
Ms. Dougherty: That's where we bought it.
Mayor Suarez: No, no... not as ... just as to the bidding process. The rest of
the issue having to do with the amendment, presumably, hopefully will solve in
November with the charter amendment. That's what...
Ms. Dougherty: The RFP can have conditions on it, yes. That the only people
bidding...
Mayor Suarez: It has to be a community based economic development entity and
so on.
Ms. Dougherty: ... has to be a community based organization.
Mr. Plummer: All right. Well, I think the manager has made the smart
recommendation, and I would so move that this be sent to the housing authority
and put together a package, negotiate it and bring it back to this Commission,
and then we will look at it. I'll so move.
Ms. Kennedy: I second. ...also ridden by the property, I have seen it, it's
a dump and this would be a great thing to do.
Mayor Suarez: Follow those parameters that worked before. So moved and
seconded. Any discussion? Call the roll.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved
its adoption:
140TION NO. 87-464
A MOTION AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO
PREPARE A PLAN FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF A PORTION OF FERN
ISLE PARK; FURTHER DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO COME BACK
ON JUNE 1IT11 TO THE CITY COMMISSION WITH A RECOMMENDATION.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Kennedy, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
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58. GRANT PER191TS F"Ofi FIREWORKS, PEDDLERS AND CLOSURE OF STREETS FOR CARNAVAL
MIAMI
Mayor Suarez: Item sixty-two.
Mr. Plummer: Move it.
Mr. Ferro: Thank you vr.ry much.
Mr. Odio: The... ok.
Mayor Suarez: Carnaval Miami mcvcd.
Ms. Kennedy: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Any discussion? Call the roll.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved
its adoption:
MOTION NO. 87-465
A MOTION GRANTING REQUEST RECEIVED FROM REPRESENTATIVES OF
CARNAVAL. MIAMI TO CLOSE DESIGNATED STREETS, WAIVE
LIMITATION OF FIREWORKS, PROHIBIT PEDDLERS IN DESIGNATED
AREAS AND ISSUE TEI9PORARY LIQUOR LICENSE IN CONNECTION
WITH CARNAVAL NIGHT ON MARCH 5, CARNAVAL 14IAMI PASEO ON
MARCH 6, CALLE OCHO 8K RUN ON MARCH 11, CARNAVAL MIAMI
BIKE DASH ON MARCH 12, CALLE OCHO FESTIVAL ON MARCH 11-13,
AND CARNAVAL MIAMI SPONSOR'S PARTY ON MARCH 12, 1988, AS
MORE FULLY OUTLINED IN A LETTER FROM RAFAEL V. LICEA,
EXECUTIVE. DIRECTOR OF CARNAVAL MIAMI, TO CESAR ODIO, CITY
MANAGER, DATED MARCH 25, 1987.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Kennedy, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
59. LETTERS IN CONNECTION WITH OWNERS NOTIFICATION FORM FOR POSSIBLE FILING
OF RICO LIENS TO BE SENT TO ATTORNEY GENERAL
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Mayor Suarez: Item sixty-three. Is Joe here?
Mr. Plummer: Joe Woodnick is mere, yes.
Mayor Suarez: Yes, proceed.
Joe Woodnick: May I ask the Commission if they have copies of the letter to
the attorney general and the draft notice to landowners. Do you have a copy
of the drafted letter from the Commission... for the Commission to address to
the attorney general?
Mr. Plummer: Hold on. What is this, sixty-two?
Ms. Kennedy: Sixty-three.
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Mr. Woodnick: T got mine about an hour ago so I don't have any copies to pass
on.
Mr. Plummer: Sixty - three. No, I don't have a copy of it.
Mayor Suarez: You're not paid, by the way, or compensated in any way for your
appearance today or are yoit acting for yourself, Joe?
Mr. Woodnick: P;yself.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, if we had to pay Joe Woodnick for all the hours of
dedication that he has put into this situation and to the Rood nf this City,
we couldn't afford it. This man has done a tremendous amount of work at
absolutely no benefit to him except for a better community. Where is the
letter? Is it...
Mr. Woodnick: Would it be appropriate for me to read the letter?
Mr. Plummer: Which letter are you referring to?
Mayor Suarez% It's in the back up.
Ms. Kennedy: This letter, here - here...
Mr. Woodnick: A draft letter to Bob Butterworth, the attorney general.
Mr. Plummer: No, we don't have it.
Ms. Kennedy: We do, you don't.
Mr. Plummer: Where - where is your letter addressed to Bob Butterworth?
Ms. Kennedy: Right - oh no, no, no.
Mr. Plummer: I don't...
Mayor Suarez: The draft letter I don't have. I have your letter to our City
attorney, Joe.
Mr. Plummer: I don't think anybody got it, Joe.
W Mayor Suarez: What is the...
Mr. Plummer: No.
Mayor Suarez: What is the procedure, Madame City Attorney, on this? I gather
he's found the correct procedure.
Ms. Dougherty: Yes, this is a discussion item - or personal appearance.
Mayor Suarez: But, as far as the Commission approving the sending of a letter
to the attorney general.
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Mr. Woodnick: Two - two - two meetings back, you voted and approved that,
f yes.
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Mr. Plummer: Well, Mr. Mayor, let me go back.., let me back track; a couple
j, of meetings back, we asked Mr. Woodnick to get together with the City attorney
{ and, who else, and the administration, Joe?
Mr. Woodnick: Yes, sir.
Mr. Plummer: Or the police chief?
Mr. Woodnick: Yes, sir.
Mr. Plummer: And come back with some kind of a letter which this, I assume,
is the product, to send to Butterworth asking them to establish the office
here in Dade County and, of course, this letter, as drafted, would be signed
by Clarence Dickson, Chief of Police. Mr. Mayor, since none of us have copies
and I have the only, may I read it into the record? I think that might be the
best way to do it. It's addressed to Bob Butterworth, the attorney general.
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"Dear Mr. Btitteromrt h. i am e!r it.ing this letter to request your assistance in
cooperating and establishing a pro -active RICO office in the Miami area, to
assist the Miami Police Department in prosecuting RTCO cases. Specifically, I
am requesting a full time attorney in the local attorney general's office,
whose duties would bn primarily for litigating local RICO cases, and would be
accessible to the officers of the Miami Police Department. Additionally, if
possible, this attorney should have prior experience in civil RICO, and should
become knowledgeable in local building code violations and code enforcement,
to develop RICO complaints that include public nuisance and health .,iolitions.
As further suggestion, i propose the following: i) The development. of a RICO
procedures manual for statewide use, 2)Establish a date of (blank) for the
RICO attorney to be in place and 3) L.iens. Be selective in what property to
lien, and possibly work with other type of RICO cases when in the public
interest. Once them is a concerted and coordinated effort, through law
enforcements, I am sure that such a program would be extremely effective in
combatting drug abuse and sales. I await your reply at your earliest
convenience. Sincerely." And to be proposed as - hello...
Mr. Woodnick: And then, there were none.
Mr. Plummer: Madame City Attorney, I am assuming this was drafted with your
help.
Ms. Dougherty: I assume so, too.
Mr. Plummer: Excuse me?
Ms. Dougherty: It, wasn't? I've never seen...
Mr. Plummer: Joe, was this...
Mr. Woodnick: This wns done by Christopher Kurtz in the legal .:nit, at Miami
Police Department, I believe.
Mayor Suarez: He's imposing a lien. No, item sixty-three.
Mr. Woodnick: He did an exception...
Mr. Plummer: Does - does Dickson concur with this letter?
Mr. Woodnick: lie's reviewed it as of this afternoon, as far as I know.
Mr. Plummer: Does Chief Dickson concur with this letter?
Mr. Woodnick: You have a representative of the Chief here.
Mr. Plummer: He doesn't even have a ten-gallon hat.
Jimmy Burke: Mr. Plummer, yes...
Mayor Suarez: Commissioner - J. L.
Mr. Plummer: Huh?
Mayor Suarez: Can you pass it down for them to read?
Mr. Plummer: Oh, sure. Does the Chief concur with this letter?
Mr. Burke: Yes, sir.
Mr. Plummer: I so move, with pleasure.
Mr. Woodnick: Commissioner Plummer, I have just one thing to request in
regards to the letter, when I appeared before the Commission I asked,
previously, I asked specifically, that the letter go - come from the
Commission to the attorney general.
Mr. Plummer: Well, why was it drafted from the Police Chief?
Mr. Woodnick: Well, it's... of course this is for use by the police
department but, as you know, the attorney general is having a hard time right
now being funded properly for his staff.
142 May 14,1987
Mr. Plummer: Why don't w,� both send letters?
Mr. Woodnick: That's an excellent idea. I would appreciate it. You might
even...
Mr. Plummer: I move, Mr. Mayor, that this letter be drafte3 for the Police
Chiefs signature, and a second let -ter be drafted for the City Crm-eission's
signature, signed by you, the mayor, and both be forwarded to the office of
the G... the AG.
Mr. Woodnick: A] I right.. It might be a good idea to copy the governor on
this too, because he has his office...
Mr. Plummer: I don't know. That governor ain't getting along too good with
anybody right now.
Mr.
Dawkins:
That's
right.
Mr.
Woodnick:
Well,
it goes to his office of prosecution coordination which
is
very interested in
this and...
Mr.
Plummer:
I guys:;
it's v.orth tw.•!nty-two cents, send ilia a copy.
Mr.
Woodnick:
It's worth
it.. There is a ...
Mr. Plummer: I so move, Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Suarez: So moved. Seconded? I'll second it.
Mr. Woodnick: There is it draft...
Mayor Suarez: Do you want to explain a little bit, Joe? What the effect
would be of having the activities of a RICO attorney in town.
Mr. Plummer: About two million dollars a year.
Mayor Suarez: ...under the attorney general's office. What kinds of cases
would they impose liens on?
Mr. Woodnick: Well, the primary concern right now is your drug houses. And
the RICO act actually...
Mayor Suarez: The idea is we'd end up owning these drug houses, once we've
established a violation.
Mr. Woodnick: The second violation.
Mayor Suarez: The second violation.
Mr. Woodnick: That's why you have a notice to the owner to establish the fact
that he aware that, on a second occurrence, then the department of legal
j affairs is asked to lien the property; it's forfeited to the state, 40 percent
of the net proceeds comes back to the City.
Mayor Suarez: Are you sure? - I mean this is not to be an impediment in any
way to what you're trying to do which I think is magnificent, but are you sure
the Statewide Prosecutor, John Hogan, cannot do that out of, I know...
Mr. Woodnick: The statewide prosecutor is criminal only. This is a civil
action, sir.
Mayor Suarez: lie - lie can't file RICO actions?
Mr. Woodnick: lie cannot handle them. I have a bill that I wrote that's in
the legislature now, that will give him the authority, but, presently, he does
not have it.
Mayor Suarez: Ok, because 1 had a great deal to do with his appointment, and
recommended him to the attorney general, and he's... they've told me that
they're going to have... the main office of the statewide prosecutor is going
to be in Dade County. Ok.
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Mr. Woodnick: Now, there is one other thing. There is a drafted letter here,
which is a notice to an owner. I do have some problems with that inasmuch as
it needs some addition to it.
Mayor Suarez: And that would go from - that would go from our le...
Mr. Woodnick: I don't think... I don't its...
Mayor Suarez: And that would go from our... from what, the City Clerk, or the
Police Chief or from whom? Or from...
Mr. Woodnick: That can go from the legal unit in the Miami Police Department,
or it can go from the RICO unit, either way.
Mayor Suarez: Or you can work out the details of what the letter should say.
I don't think we should be voting on something like that. I mean, we don't
need to...
Mr. Woodnick: All right, I am going to hand the changes to the man right now.
Mayor Suarez: The appropriate wording so that it is kosher.
Mr. Woodnick: Thank you very much.
Mayor Suarez: Any questions? I seconded it. We really haven't called the
roll. Commissioner Dawkins has to call the roll.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved
its adoption:
MOTION NO. 87-466
A MOTION DIRECTING THE ADMINISTRATION TO PREPARE TWO
LETTERS, ONE TO BE SIGNED BY THE MAYOR AND ONE TO BE
SIGNED BY THE CHIEF OF POLICE, IN CONNECTION WITH OWNER
NOTIFICATION FORM FOR POSSIBLE FILING OF RICO LIENS; SAID
LETTERS TO BE FORWARDED TO THE FLORIDA ATTORNEY GENERAL,
BOB BUTTERWORTH WITH COPIES TO FLORIDA GOVERNOR BOB
MARTINEZ.
Upon being seconded by Mayor Suarez, the motion was passed and adopted
by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Mayor Suarez: Thank you, Joe, for your interest and the work you put into
this. It will be very valuable, hopefully, not only in the sense of law
enforcement, in the sense of also getting us some viable properties into our
hands that we could turn around and use for other purposes.
Mr. Woodnick: Thank you very much.
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60. DISCUSSION BY CRIME PREVENTION PROGRAM REPRESENTATIVE OF THE PUBLIC
NUISANCE ORDINANCE.
Mayor Suarez: Item 64, and then we will get to 65, which I know you have to be
someplace in an hour, right?
Ms. Ann Marie Adker: Ann Marie...
Mayor Suarez: Crime Prevention Program of the City of Miami.
Ms. Adker: Ann Marie Adker, 407 N.W. 5th Street. The Public Nuisance
ordinance is just about the same thing. It is already on the books. The thing
that we are striving for is a time frame. How many times does the police have
to go to one building in order to declare it a public nuisance. I think we
need to deal with that.
Mayor Suarez: Do we have any kind of wording already to be submitted to the
Commission on this ordinance?
Mrs. Dougherty: There is no language in the ordinance that specifies how many
times. The State law, however, which we would follow in these nuisance
actions, right now, it is proposed to make it two times, and then I understand
there is an amendment to make it three times.
Ms. Adker: Could we use that for code enforcement as well as narcotics?
Mrs. Dougherty: Could we use code enforcement methods to abate a public
nuisance?
Ms. Adker: Yes.
Mrs. Dougherty: If it was other than drugs, no. However, if you have an
unsafe structure, you can close an unsafe structure and demolish it.
Mr. Plummer: But, our problem, our problem right now is, and let's admit the
truth. Our Code Enforcement Board does not have the teeth nor the clout to
really accomplish what needs to be done. What is the maximum they can assess
in a fine, $500?
Mrs. Dougherty: $250 per day.
Mr. Plummer: And when was the last time they assessed that fine?
Mrs. Dougherty: I think they assessed about $250,000 last year.
Mr. Plummer: So, well, and there is no jail time involved?
Mrs. Dougherty: No. See, you either have got to give that board some clout,
with something to hit somebody in the head with, or you are really... you are
wasting your time. I think you know, can we increase that fine, the level of
the fine that they can assess?
J.
Mrs. Dougherty: Excuse me?
j Mr. Plummer: Can we, the Commission, increase the amount of the fine that
they are legitimately able to assess?
Mrs. Dougherty: No, sir.
Mr. Plummer: Is that $250 per day?
Mrs. Dougherty: Per day.
Mr. Plummer: But, you see, a guy that is making $5,000 a day selling drugs,
hell, he doesn't give damn. What is $250?
Mrs. Dougherty: No, the drug situation can be handled in a public nuisance,
injunction, or ordinance, revoking their occupational license. What ,she was
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asking for is can we use this same method of closing a house because of code
enforcement problems, and the answer is no. We have other methods and other
remedies for code violations... buildings and violations of the code.
Ms. Adker: Is this as strenuous as closing it down for code violations?
Mrs. Dougherty: If it is an unsafe structure, and an unsafe structure is
defined very broadly, including not having windows in it...
Ms. Adker: Yes.
Mrs. Dougherty:... not having a proper foundation, not having bathrooms in the
apartment. If it is an unsafe structure, then the City has permission to tear
the building down, require the occupants to move and to tear it down.
Ms. Adker: But, do you what that process is? That can go into years of
waiting to have that building demolished, and while we are going through that,
we are going through a lot of problems.
Mayor Suarez: Yes, we have had that in a couple of cases, and we are not
really prepared to deal with that issue today, but if you want the City...
Mrs. Dougherty: You have a revolving loan fund that you've established of
about $500,000 to do exactly that.
Mayor Suarez: Right to demolish, but the procedure of determining an unsafe
structure, particularly, if the owner opposes it has taken... and she is
right, it has taken many, many months, but we are not in a position today to
solve that particular problem, nor is that even the matter that is on the
agenda, but we will take that up at the appropriate time. We can instruct the
City Attorney to start coming up with ways in which that procedure can be
simplified, if you like, and...
Ms. Adker: Well, we certainly need it.
Mayor Suarez: ... and speed it up.
Ms. Adker: It is an emergency situation. All we are trying to do is hold up
our responsibility for the redevelopment of Overtown.
Mayor Suarez: Let me ask her a question. To what extent are we under a
County code in that?
Mrs. Dougherty: It is a County board that declares a building unsafe.
Mayor Suarez: I think part of the problem is that it is all controlled by the
County, and I don't mean part of the problem, part of the solution, I suppose
is to make proposals to the County on how they can expedite that process.
Mr. Dawkins: Mrs. Adker, before you leave, you left this morning, I'd like to
say publicly that I read an article in the paper that disturbed me regarding
Annie Adker. Annie Adker never comes down here asking for anything for Annie
Adker, it is always for Overtown, and from the thrust of the article in the
j paper, it appears that Annie Adker was always in our faces for Annie Adker.
{j If more people in that community would spend a little more time down here as
Annie Adker does, we would get much more then, and I personally want to say to
you this morning is, you find some spot out there to feed some senior
citizens, because we keep saying up here that we are going to feed the hungry
and take care of the poor, and very little money for feeding people goes into
Overtown, so when the time comes for us to parcel the money, you have a spot
identified. I mean, have this Commission a spot identified.
Ms. Adker: Thank you, because as you see, I am falling apart from the foot
up.
Mayor Suarez: Thank you, Ann Marie. I think we have to recognize that we
have one too many Plummers in the chambers here. Senator, good to see you.
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61. A. PUBLIC HEARING - APPROVE BOUNDARY STREETS OF LATIN QUARTER DISTRICT
CO -DESIGNATION.
B. APPROVE IN PRINCIPLE PROPOSED STREET CO -DESIGNATION PROGRAM FOR
LATIN QUARTER DISTRICT; REQUEST ONE THIRD OF NAMES TO BE WOMEN'S.
Mayor Suarez: Item 65, I know you are pressed for time - Latin Quarter
Association.
Mr. Willy Bermello: Mr. Mayor, members of the Commission, my name for the
record, Willy Bermello, with addresses at 55 Almeria, Coral Gables. I appear
before you as chairman of the Latin Quarter Review Board. A number of months
ago we appeared before your Commission, and we presented to you the project
entitled Latin Quarter Street Co -designation Program. Basically, it is a
project in keeping with the objectives of the Latin Quarter District
ordinance, which you created three and one-half years ago, to promote and
enhance Hispanic culture in one small section of Little Havana called the
Latin Quarter. Our project basically consists of the following: to co -
designate the streets in the Latin Quarter with names of patriots from Latin
America, martyrs, poets, internationally recognized men and women that stand
for one common element freedom; and we believe that in this small niche of
Miami called the Latin Quarter, that concept needs to be kept alive, promoted
and visually representing a symbol to all of our visitors that come here,
because basically Miami has become a mecca, a marketplace for the Americas.
Most, if not all of the countries in Central America and South America will be
represented here, And just like, as you travel throughout Latin America,
whether you go to Venezuela, or you go to Columbia, or Peru, and you in those
streets will see the names of Washington, and Lincoln, and John F. Kennedy and
Theodore Roosevelt, where, in those countries, the people in those countries
also love freedom just as we do, and honor our presidents and our patriots, we
feel that as a gesture, for the fact that Miami has become an international
City, we need to return this gesture of good will. It should be stated that
this is not an effort to cause an affront to any of our citizens in Miami,
although I realize, and I am saddened by the fact that some people do not like
what we are doing, and I feel very sorry for them. We have tried very hard to
try to be as objective and as accurate historically as possible. We believe
we have a plan that is very workable, and the final decision is up to you.
You already voted for the concept. I think it is time for you to vote in
terms of the particular names for each of the particular streets. There is
one change, however, and that has to do with who pays for this. Initially,
we came to you with the fact that this was going to be paid for by
Metropolitan Dade County. I come to you today with the fact that this will
not be paid by any taxpayer anywhere in South Florida. It will be paid by
private sector monies, taking down the existing signs, putting down the new
signs. The only responsibility will be for the City to maintain those signs.
For the people that are here, I would like to again explain one important
factor. In a co -designated street, we are not doing away with the numbers of
the existing streets. Those will be remain.
Mayor Suarez: I am glad you clarified that, because you said, taking down the
existing signs. You made sound like you were going to take away the streets
and avenues.
Mr. Bermello: We are putting back new signs that will be a little bit larger
than the existing ones. There will be, instead of the green and white, they
will be blue and white. On the bottom part of the sign will be current street
or avenue number. On the top part will be the additional name. Upon your
instructions and the City Manager's instructions...
Mayor Suarez: I presume the current numbering system will not be any less
prominent under the new signage, than under the old.
Mr. Bermello: That is correct.
Mayor Suarez: For fire and police vehicles and so on, for emergency vehicles.
Mr. Bermello: That is correct. Upon instructions of this Commission and the
City Manager, we made a presentation before the Street and Plats Committee.
We believe that our case was heard, although we were not delighted with the
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results. They recommended, as you know, against this program by a vote of
five to four. The closeness of the vote had to be... the chairman of that
committee had to vote to break up the tie, so I guess it tells you that
basically we are talking on something that is... we are not talking about a
practical issue of problems. It is really an emotional issue. We are making
a change that we think is for a better Miami. As far as Commissioner Kennedy,
in discussing with her, and reading the Miami Herald and other... and the
Miami News, she addressed an item, that frankly we had overlooked, which was
the issue of the number of women that will be recognized, and we have worked
hard with her and her office, I think, in making some improvements. We now
have four women and that is still subject to your review and consideration,
Commissioner Kennedy. I'd like to say that this has been a very democratic
process, and let me share with you that this began as an idea that...
Mayor Suarez: Just to clarify one point. You understand that all we can do
really on the signage is to recommend, and that the County actually has to
approve it, because they are the ones that maintain it, and of course, you
will get presumably, a recommendation one way or the other from this
Commission.
Mr. Bermello: Mr. Mayor, in our meetings with the County...
Mayor Suarez: Unless you already have that from the County.
Mr. Bermello: In our meetings with the County, they said that they would not
maintain those signs.
Mayor Suarez: Well, you are going to maintain them privately, but I mean,
they have to agree, because they have the authority to maintain.
Mr. Bermello: What they have told us, and they may change, but what they told
us was that they would not maintain the signs, that they would expect...
Mr. Plummer: Not maintain them, but they put them up.
Mr. Bermello: Well, we will pay for them to put them up.
Mrs. Dougherty: No, they maintain all traffic... they maintain all street
signs in the City.
Mr. Plummer: Oh, OK.
Mr. Bermello: OK, the issue of maintenance, they said once a nonstandard
signs go up, they don't want to maintain it. They would expect the City of
Miami to maintain the signs. What we are saying is, that we have a private
sponsor that will pay for everything involved in putting the new signs up. I
have to admit to you I don't know what kind of maintenance signs require, but
I have to assume it is a small item. I would like to recognize Don Luis
Sabines, the president of the Latin Chamber of Commerce and Little Havana
Development Authority, because when this thing started, I initially thought of
just naming the provinces of Cuba and the Cuba patriots, and so on and so
forth, and he was the one who told me, Willy, we have to make this a little
bit broader, we have to recognize our brothers and sisters from Argentina,
from Venezuela, from Columbia, from Nicaragua, that are here, and I want to
recognize him because he is here with us today. Why is it important that we
make a decision at this meeting? - and I hate to pressure you, but the fact is
the following: I have had discussions with the Secretary of Commerce, Mr. Jeb
Bush. There is a possibility, a very strong possibility that Vice President
Bush will come to Miami and join the Mayor and you, the Commissioners to
dedicate these streets some time in the middle of June. He is waiting for a
response to see what happens with the City. He is very interested, primarily,
because obviously, as you know, one of the names, proudly so, would be Ronald
Reagan, on S.W. 12th Avenue, and that is why I have contacted you, and I have
asked to be heard tonight, and to have your response to this so that we know
where we stand, and we can notify the White House regarding this.
Mayor Suarez: You have also asked the Vice President, have you not, through
the channels that you have used, to make that phone call to the regional
director of HUD in Jacksonville, to help us with the financing of
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Mr. Bermello: Mr. Mayor, I have just informed one of the assistant City
managers that that phone call was made yesterday.
Mayor Suarez: Because otherwise he may not be welcomed particularly much, in
the Latin Quarter.
Mr. Bermello: It is being taken care of.
Mrs. Kennedy: Willie, let me say that you have done a great job, however,
three or four women out of seventeen, at least I feel is not enough. You
have to give the Latin American woman more recognition. She has fought side
by side with her husband, with her family. She has given up her sons in the
struggle, she has become a leader, a poet, a writer, and not only those unsung
heroines, but you also have to recognize the other kind of women who have
worked in our factories, who have cared for our children, who have nurtured
her sick, and they deserve a better place in history.
Mr. Bermello: I agree 100 percent with you, Commissioner Kennedy, it is not
an easy task. Once you are making decisions and you have a limited number of
spots, you inevitably will leave somebody off that you would like to include.
I frankly do not profess to be an, I would say, not an expert, but maybe a
source that you could rely on in terms of which one of the patriots that we
are considering is better than the others that have been named. I you would
like, and if I can just take a very brief moment, I can name you the names
that are being proposed so it will facilitate maybe making some changes. One
of the things that we have tried to do is to have representation from as many
countries as possible and I do admit...
Mayor Suarez: Why don't you tell us the countries that are represented?
Mr. Bermello: Argentina, Cuba, Mexico, Uruguay, the Dominican Republic, Chile,
Puerto Rico, Venezuela, Bolivia, Columbia, Peru and Ecuador and the United
States by way of Ronald Reagan.
Mr. Plummer: I don't find... you have got one in there from Nicaragua.
Mr. Bermello: Yes, sir. That is Ruben Dario. This is pre -Communist
Nicaragua, by the way.
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Mr. Bermello: When I say Cuba, I am not talking post -Castro Cuba, I am
talking independent Republic of Cuba.
Mr. Plummer: I don't find one for Columbia.
Mr. Bermello: Columbia, Peru and Equador are represented by Simon Bolivar.
Mr. Plummer: In other words, you are taking three countries for one street.
Mr. Bermello: That is correct.
' Mr. Plummer: Does that sound like a real balance?
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Mr. Bermello: There are some... Francisco Morazan represents Central America,
and that is primarily because of the time that he was alive that the countries
that we know as Honduras and Guatemala were not countries at that time. It is
i a region that he represents, and the same is the case, as we discussed Simon
Bolivar.
Mr. Plummer: Well, look, I am not that familiar as you are with those of the
Latin and South America. I am only looking at a list here that shows me the
different countries, and I think, you know, that we have in this community, a
very large Puerto Rican community.
Mr. Bermello: There is a Puerto Rican there. I am sorry if I... I mentioned
it.
Mr. Plummer: But, there is only one out of 171
Mayor Suarez: By the way, it is a commonwealth, not a separate nation, for
the record.
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Mr. Plummer: Well, you know, all I am saying is, there seems to be... I am
not speaking to the individuals, what I am speaking to, you is, you have
seven, half of them are from Cuba.
Mr. Bermello: That's correct.
Mr. Plummer: OK? Now, what I am saying is, if you are going to make it a
truly Latin Quarter, then I think that you have to have a good distribution.
That is the only point that I am trying to make and I am doing it not on the
names of the individual, but on the countries represented. I can't really
accept that one man represents three countries, so three countries are
represented. You know, I think that if you are going to have representatives
from other countries, it has got to be fair and equitable across the board,
and I don't have any problem with Cuba having the main front, because that is
the makeup of this community, but I think when you are in fact on the others,
not having a representative of those countries, I think that you have got a
problem.
Mr. Bermello: I think regarding Simon Bolivar, Mr. Plummer, if we think of
George Washington liberating 13 colonies from England, it is a similar
situation.
Mr. Plummer: Then fine, pick another one.
Mr. Bermello: I read what you are saying.
Mr. Plummer: OK? I don't think you have here a representative of Columbia.
Mr. Bermello: I think Colombians would be very upset with you if you said
that about Simon Bolivar, and Venezuelans would say the same.
Mr. Plummer: Hey, he is there, but he is not a designated country in this
list that I have in front of me, OK? You want to list him of Columbia, so be
it.
Mr. Bermello: It is the same thing if I were to say someone from Virginia
would not accept George Washington, while somebody from Valley Forge would.
It is the same...
Mr. Plummer: All I am saying to you is, I think that you need to see somebody
here with Columbia, I think you need somebody here from Peru, if you are going
to make this a truly representative Latin Quarter.
Mrs. Kennedy: Do you want to expand the Latin Quarter?
That's all I am saying.
Mr. Bermello: I could tell you, Commissioner, that the only, outside of
British Guyana, and Paraguay and Brazil, those are really the only two
countries that are not represented here, and small islands in the Caribbean
and Jamaica, for example.
Mayor Suarez: Thank you for your presentation.
Mr. Bermello: Thank you very much, Mr. Mayor and Commissioners.
Mayor Suarez: Pat, let me, before you say something, I want to put into the
record a letter I received from Terry Robins of Dade Americans United, could
not be here, she had a long standing planned vacation and could not present at
this hearing. Attached to the letter is the main thing that she mentions in
the letter, which is a suggestion that the City should honor in some way,
Teddy Roosevelt, by having a statue, or I presume, a street named or
something. Is there any street in the City of Miami named after Teddy
Roosevelt? And if not, you know, that is really an oversight. In any event,
you obviously have no objections to that, those of you who are proposing names
for the Latin Quarter and it could be right close to the Latin Quarter if it
was a street and if it was a statue, I am sure we would f ind an appropriate
park. Many, many thanks to recommend someone like Teddy Roosevelt, and of
course, there is a reference here to the fact that he fought in the Spanish-
American War, Cuban War of Independence, however you term it, and led the
'Rough Riders,' and the stories having to do with how he did that are quite
interesting, worth reading. In any event, I want to introduce this into the
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record and anyone who communicates with Terry, tell her that we would be happy
to pursue this at a later time, at least for my vote. Yes, Pat?
Ms. Pat Keller: Good afternoon, I am Pat Keller, president of the Allapattah
Community Association. We are here to discuss naming of streets. I am
struck by these names, codesignation, dual designation, but we are really here
to discuss naming of streets. It is illegal to name streets in the City of
Miami, and laws have been set up to protect the integrity of our named
streets. The reason for that is, Miami is very easy to get around. Our
forefathers wanted to protect that and they incorporated this into law with
Section 54-88, Miami law books, Page 36-41. Page 36-41, very briefly says:
"No person shall put up, or cause to be put up any sign designating a street,
avenue, or other public place by a different name, other than that by which it
is generally and legally known." They further incorporated it into the law,
Section 54-78, page 36-39 of the Code Book for the City of Miami, states very
briefly: "Each avenue lying east of the base thoroughfare, Miami Avenue,
shall bear the numerical name." I will go down to the second point. "Each
avenue lying west of the base thoroughfare, Miami Avenue, shall bear the
numerical name, indicating the number of squares." ... number, numerical.
Mayor Suarez: By the way, that is an interesting legal argument. I actually,
I understand from the City Attorney that we have been preempted, totally in
the area of designation of streets by the County, so you could make that
argument to the County.
Ms. Keller: This is... I am reading from the City of Miami law Code book,
this is not Dade County.
Mayor Suarez: Right, but this is a complicated legal concept whereby if the
County passes a similar ordinance, they preempt ours, but go ahead, make your
legal argument, if you want.
Ms. Keller: Well, that hasn't held through with anti -bilingual ordinance,
according to you, so we will presume in the City of Miami...
Mayor Suarez: Pat, I didn't argue the case, and I've never made a statement
regarding that, but go ahead.
Ms. Keller: The City of Miami law books states thusly. We will go down
Section 54-79, page 36-39, the City of Miami Law Code, which states number
one, each street lying north of the base thoroughfare, Flagler Street, shall
bear the name indicating the number of squares, that such street may be
removed from such base thoroughfare."
Mayor Suarez: Oh, and one other thing. If we were not preempted by the
County, and this Commission wanted to pass a new ordinance amending that one,
they could do so, just by simple ordinance, though, either way. The legal
argument is not going to be your strongest argument here today, I have a
feeling, but you can go ahead and make it, if you would like.
Ms. Keller: Well, you are the lawyer, but while I am here, I guess it is
going to be my case and...
Mayor Suarez: But, you understand, we can change the code any time. These
are the people that make the Code of the City of Miami, right?
Ms. Keller: I guess that would be true of anything we discussed.
Mayor Suarez: It is not the Charter. If it was the Charter, we would have to
pass an amendment, is what I am saying.
Ms. Keller: I just said it would be true of anything we discussed, Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Suarez: No, if it was the Charter, we would have pass it by amendment.
If it is the Code you are reading from, we can amend it, so...
Ms. Keller: I think your right. Section 2, page 36-39, reads: "Each street
lying south of the base thoroughfare, Flagler Street, shall bear the numerical
name." I am not going to read all of the rest of that paragraph because it
is... I think we have got the point. Your staff advised you not to do this.
They have taken up several votes. Now, in the past, the supporting papers
were in this -were altogether showing this memo. I don't see the first memo
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written from your staff, which gives the reasons why this shouldn't be done,
and I don't see the second memo, which was recently...
Mr. Carollo: ... (INAUDIBLE)... go ahead Pat, we'are listening to you.
Ms. Keller: Well, I don't want to interrupt your...
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Mr. Carollo: Thank you, Pat.
Ms. Keller: You are welcome anytime. At any rate...
Mayor Suarez: Good to see you smile, Pat!
Mr. Carollo: You've got a sense of humor after all, Pat! I didn't believe
what some people said.
Ms. Keller: At any rate, I don't understand why the memo from the Street and
Plat Committee is not in the supporting papers. I will ask you, Mr. Mayor,
and I will ask the City Clerk to kindly see to it that the memo from the
Street and Plat Committee, from the vote...
Mayor Suarez: That will be incorporated into the record. That is so ordered.
Proceed.
Ms. Keller: If you would. I would ask that they send me a copy of it too,
please.
Mayor Suarez: Now, you may have to pay for that, but we will...
Ms. Keller: I'll go all out. All right, the memo states, and I believe it
was May 22, 1986, I could be wrong, that it is illegal to name a street in the
City of Miami. It is expensive, emergency vehicles lose precious time, it
further states that mail could be misdirected, there could be confusion with
the Police and Fire Departments, and these are mighty serious objections.
According to the supporting papers, your Street and Plat Committee met this
year, and they met again, as I say, they do not support the naming of streets.
These streets were numbered, not only with the law in mind, but with
emergencies in mind. Just one person that could die because an ambulance got
confused with the naming...
Mayor Suarez: I guess they didn't do it that way in Coral Gables, did they?
Ms. Keller: No, they haven't, because they are used to named streets, because
this has been all the way since Coral Gables was incorporated. There is no
law in the City of Miami saying that you cannot number streets, Mr. Mayor, you
know that. I think it is important that we realize that there is...
Mayor Suarez: Coconut Grove has a lot of...
Ms. Keller: Yes, they do, this was...
Mayor Suarez: And it happens to be one of the nicest parts of the City of
Miami.
Ms. Keller: This was... in fact, Coconut Grove is mentioned...
Mayor Suarez: May...
Ms. Keller: You'll have to forgive me, but you are interrupting, Mr. Mayor.
It is courtesy to wait until after...
Mr. Plummer: Pat, the only place I agree with you is on One Herald Plaza.
Ms. Keller: Well, you know, the Herald did get away with that, you are right.
No, I don't even agree with it there, but you are right, the Herald does have
a named street, and I think there is an explanation why. The law...
Mayor Suarez: No, not necessary, not necessary.
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Ms. Keller: Well, all right, I won't bore you with some more facts. At any
rate, the Grove is outside of the sort of... they called it a Greek pattern
that is set up in the City of Miami, and it was stipulated that in the Grove,
you could name streets in law code. I think it is quite interesting that
there was an undated letter from Mr. Willy Bermello in your supporting papers
having to do with this issue in which he is proposing that the streets be
named, and he is proposing that Community Development governmental funds from
1985 to be used for that purpose. Now, you just don't go fingering back into
funds of 1985 to name street, which is illegal, to start with, and these
funds, these community development funds are set up for the poor and the near
poor of the City of Miami and why they are attempting to go back into 1985...
Mayor Suarez: Well, if we do that, it is because the block grants were given
in that year, and we have to spend it sooner or later, so if we go back to
1985, it is so they don't just sit there in the bank earning interest, you
know.
Ms. Keller: Right, but what you do, is if you have a proposal in 1987, you
submit that proposal for an examination by the whole City and by the United
States government. You know that, Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Suarez: Yes. No, and that is part of our development...
Ms. Keller: You just simply don't go flopping all over the place.
Mayor Suarez: Right, Community Development process, and that is exactly how
all the Community Development Block Grant monies are spent.
Ms. Keller: There...
Mayor Suarez: The Advisory Board recommends, and we pass it.
Ms. Keller: And there...
Mrs. Kennedy: Excuse me, Mr. Mayor, how many people are going to be speaking
on this issue?
Mayor Suarez: How many people are going to be speaking on it? We don't want
to hear from you.
Mr. Carollo: Pat.
Mayor Suarez: We've got one, presumably in favor, another one, presumably in
favor.
Ms. Keller: Yes, sir, Mr. Carollo.
Mayor Suarez: One, two, three against.
Mr., Carollo: Would you have any problems in having any one of these streets
named after any native born Americans?
Ms. Keller: Yes, I would. Someone has stated otherwise. That is their right
and privilege. I've...
Mr. Carollo: I'm just trying to find out what...
Ms. Keller: Yes. I, and this is the basis of my statement here. I quoted the
law.
Mayor Suarez: Pat, why don't you wrap up, please. We've had so many...
Mr. Carollo: Wait, I've asked her a question. Let's give her the opportunity.
Ms. Keller: Yes, I want you to read the law. You may give this to Mr.
Carollo. It is illegal to name streets in the City of Miami. I know we have
done it, but it is nevertheless illegal. At any rate...
Mayor Suarez: Well, I live on South Miami Avenue in the City of Miami, so
maybe that was done legally.
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Ms. Keller:... there are some certain streets that were outside of the grid
pattern, as I say. At any rate, I have, rather my organization has presented
a copy to Mr. Reagan, Mr. Bush, the Community Development Department, and the
General Accounting Office of the United States government, pointing these
facts out. You have a cost to this signage is really tremendous, and I think
the record should reflect that the Dade County normally does this work. Dade
County refused to do any more of this. Quite frankly, I think they are sick
and tired of it. They wrote a letter to that effect. I spoke with Gary Smith,
who has charge of this type of thing, and he explained to me the cost of this
is astronomical. What we are calling for here is custom made signs.
Mayor Suarez: Well, I think that was resolved, because that is going to be
paid by the private sector, not by the City.
Ms. Keller: Tell me, what private sector, Mr. Bermello, are you referring to?
Mayor Suarez: Whoever wants to give him the money, it doesn't really matter.
Ms. Keller: I'd like to know if it...
Mr. Bermello: It will be announced on May 20th.
Ms. Keller: I'll bet it will. Are you willing to say here that the private
sector will z.n no way involve government monies, grants, trusts, or things of
this nature?
Mr. Odio: You don't have to interrogate...
Mr. Bermello: Yes, private sector. It is private.
Ms. Keller: Well, they will not receive any grants and they are willing to
put up this two hundred and fifty...
Mayor Suarez: It is private money. Go ahead, proceed.
Ms. Keller: I am sure it is.
Mayor Suarez: Well, we will see.
Ms. Keller: Yes, we will. At any rate...
Mayor Suarez: Apparently he wants to make a big revelation on May 20th.
Ms. Keller: I'll bet. At any rate, the job is going to be tremendous. I
took the trouble to figure out the number of intersections involved here.
There is 126 intersections, and I don't think it is unreasonable to have the
cost be between $200 a sign, and I would say on that basis, this thing is
going to cost between $250,000 and $500,000. Now, I don't know anybody quite
as generous as all that, that would contribute all this, and even if he would,
he could get himself open for a lawsuit, because it is illegal, as you now
know, Mr. Carollo, to do so. I think now, we will sum it up.
Mrs. Kennedy: This is the only time... excuse me, I never thought I'd live to
hear the time when somebody is willing to raise money from the private sector
and is criticized for it. Now I've heard it all!
Ms. Keller: I didn't hear you, Mrs. Kennedy.
Mrs. Kennedy: That t::is is the first time, and I never thought I would get to
hear the time when somebody is willing to raise money from the private sector
and get criticized.
Ms. Keller: Why, if they wanted to put an ice skating rink in the middle of
Flagler Street with private money, I am sure you wouldn't want that, Mrs.
Kennedy. This is against the law.
Mayor Suarez: Well, maybe not in the middle of Flagler, but we might take it
somewhere else.
Ms. Keller: Right. At any rate, to sum up, and I am sure you would like to
hear more, but we will sum it up now. At any rate, I think it is important to
realize the continued lack of support from our staff that is hired for this
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purpose. The possible lawsuit, the fact that Dade County has refused to have
anything more to do with this renaming of streets, the fact that Dade County
itself, and your own staff would tell you the cost is tremendous; the fact
that somehow or other there is a proposal to dig back into 1985 Community
Development funds, which addresses itself primarily to the poor and the near
poor, the fact there is also a suggestion that general revenues be used, and
we have the homeless and the hungry walking the streets, I suggest... first of
all, these letters were addressed, saying that Community Development monies
would be requested, general revenue monies, also could serve that purpose, or
if we had some sport that wishes to disobey the law and give $250,000 to
$500,000, I say that his money could better serve the needy and the hungry in
this City, and I want to thank you.
Mayor Suarez: Thank you, Pat.
Mr. Enos Schera: Dear Mayor and Commissioners, my name is Enos Schera,
secretary for Citizens of Dade United. I spoke here May 22, 1986 against
naming two streets for Hispanic heroes, instead of many unnamed U.S. heroes
which we have, and this entire Commission voted for naming the streets,
calling it codesignation. Even your own City of Miami Street and Plat
Committee advised you then, and well as today, not to name these existing
numbered street signs, since the numbered signs are much easier for everyone
in Miami to locate, especially for emergency purposes, police and fire, and
rescue cars in which the time is precious for saving lives. On November 5,
1980, almost 60 percent of Dade County voters voted for Citizens of Dade
United's anti -bilingual ordinance after we collected 137,000 signatures, and
they spoke very clear in saying what they want - all government functions,
including signs in only the English language, and promoting only U.S. culture.
Yet, some people continue to oppose the 60 percent of the voters' wishes in
Dade County. Citizens of Dade United debated Mr. Willy Bermello...
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Mr. Schera: ... as a member of the Kiwanis Club of Little Havana, he is also
a member of the S.A.L.A.D. Spanish American League Against Discrimination, and
we debated him on television program in 1984, where he first proposed this
plan to build a Latin Quarter with Spanish language signs in the Little Havana
section of the City of Miami. Mr. Bermello is an architect, but became the
self-appointed head of a special board to make sure that all the buildings
built in the Latin Quarter would look like buildings in Cuba, with Spanish
signs as well as wanting the zoning laws changed to permit the increased
building density to twice the present amount, which is overcrowded already.
Mrs. Kennedy: Sir, Mr. Bermello is not the issue here.
Mr. Schera: Yes, it is. We spoke against this proposal. I have another
paragraph here. The naming of Miami Streets in Spanish for Hispanic heroes,
when streets already have numbers in part... is part of Mr. Bermello's Latin
Quarter plan, and is totally wrong. Using Spanish language flagellation, and
primarily Cuban culture as a weapon, to entice Spanish speakers deliberately
drives off about 150 other ethnic cultures. This City Commission passed a
resolution March 25, 1984, honoring Orlando Bosch Day, when Mr. Bosch is a
convicted bummer. These are the things that have made Miami a 'Banana
Republic' and a laughing stock in the U.S.A., and the very reason U.S. born
citizens refuse to come to Miami.
(APPLAUSE)
Mayor Suarez: Please, please.
Mrs. Kennedy: Sir, have you have ever visited the Latin Quarter in New
Orleans, or Chinatown in San Francisco, in New York?
Mr. Schera: I have a couple more statements. I'll answer your questions when
I get done here. When Americans are welcomed in their national language,
including street signs, then they will return to Miami. We request that this
Commission refuse the proposal of naming any street signs and just use the
existing numbered signs, and I thank you.
Mayor Suarez: Let me ask you a question real quick. Is there any particular
significance to your wearing the American flag, the small American flag there?
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Mr. Schera: Sure, I represent America.
Mayor Suarez: Do you understand that we have a very large one up here, and
that we pledge allegiance right before every meeting, right?
Mr. Schera: We need them all around the building here.
Mayor Suarez: Thank you. We begin every meeting by pledging allegiance to
the flag, so. just...
Mr. Plummer: Has somebody questioned your allegiance, sir? I mean most
American people don't wear an American flag, so somebody has obviously
questioned you.
Mr. Schera: Well, let me answer your question with an answer here. Does
President Reagan wears a little lapel with an American flag? - I mean, he is
our President, he runs around wearing it, what does that make him?
Mr. Plummer: But, you don't look like a President of the United States to me,
sir.
Ms. Keller: Neither do you.
Mr. Schera: You ain't going to tell him to take it off. Wed don't need to
be. I mean, this is the flag of my country, and I wear it anyplace, and any
time.
Mayor Suarez: I wanted to know what the symbolism was. There is nothing wrong
with it, it is fine.
Mr. Plummer: No, no, I've got one other question of the gentlemen. Sir, is
this not designated as a Latin Quarter?
Mr. Schera: Well, you may choose to designate it a Latin Quarter, but this is
America, and I say it should be, you know...
Mr. Plummer: Sir, this district, as there are...
Mr. Schera: ... since this is not Latin America...
Mr. Plummer:... Little Italy in New York, there is Chinatown in San Francisco,
there is Ybor City in Tampa; this is designated as a Latin Quarter.
Mr. Schera: But, it is already known as Little Havana, now, how much more
Latin can you get there?
Mr. Schera: You sure know how to evade a question, sir.
Mr. Schera: No, I am not evading a question. Listen, this is not Latin
America.
Mr. Plummer: You speak of other designations and avoiding 150 other cultures.
Now, I understand why you would take and put a hero of France, or a hero of
Germany in a Latin Quarter. Does that make any sense to you at all?
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Mr. Schera: I'm not calling to put any heroes of this nature in here. I am
= calling for American heroes, if there has to be any. Actually, I am
calling...
Mr. Plummer: So, you are questioning then, Ronald Reagan, is that it?
Mr. Schera: Well, no, no. To start with, I am calling for leaving the signs
alone, period. No naming, that is what I am calling for, but if there had
to be a calling...
Mr. Plummer: Sir, in most major cities that I know of, they have streets
.designated with names, from John F. Kennedy... I didn't hear you up here
complaining when we named it Martin Luther King Boulevard.
Mr. Schera: Well, of course not. He is an American hero.
Mr. Plummer: Oh, oh. Did I hear you up here with the Dolphin Expressway?
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Mr. Schera: You didn't hear me then, but I will tell you what, there would be
a tremendous pile of noise if we tried to make this Kruschev Avenue, or
Avenida Kruschev, and so forth like this now. Last time when I came down
here, you said that these people were then...
Mr. Plummer: You bet your ass there would be a lot of noise.
Mr. Schera: You better believe it, that is what I mean! So, you have told me
before, when I've appeared before this Commission that people are within their
rights to...
Mayor Suarez: Let the record reflect he meant you bet your life!
Mr. Plummer: No, sir, that is what you said. I said you bet your ass, and
let it be very, very clear.
Mr. Schera: Well, you said the last time I was here that the people are
within their rights to name it any name they want to, and I didn't tell you...
Mr. Carollo: Well, the last guy that said that, the Miami Herald took him up
on it.
Mr. Schera: Has anybody dared to put Avenida Kruschev, and...
Mr. Plummer: I have not been to Bimini, I will not go to Bimini... (LAUGHTER)
Mrs. Kennedy: But you are a Democrat, that can only happen to Democrats.
Mr. Carollo: You know, I missed something.
Mrs. Kennedy: That can only happen to Democrats.
Mr. Plummer: I qualify.
Mayor Suarez: I'll entertain a motion to send him to Bimini.
Mr. Carollo: Were you for or against naming an Avenue after Kruschev?
Mr. Schera: No, I certainly would not be for that.
Mr. Carollo: OK.
Mr. Schera: I am totally against any Communist principles....
Mr. Carollo: Well, you get one point from me on that.
Mr. Schera: ... or I wouldn't be hauling this American flag, I'll tell you.
Mrs. Kennedy: Sir, would it surprise you to know that in Cuba, we had streets
named like Avenida Lagoon, and Avenida Lincoln and Washington, and Riley?
Mr. Schera: I may be interested in knowing, but I don't really care what they
did in Cuba. We are in the United States. We are in the United States in
this present time. This is the way we feel, and this is what we want, and
this is the kind of jazz that drives off Americans from coming to Miami. I am
trying to tell you, straight to the point. This was the total intent of the
anti -bilingual ordinance, to get them to become American.
Mr. Plummer: I just hope that I sit on this Commission long enough that I
will one time hear you come down and make something positive.
Mr. Schera: Well, I will, if you do the right things.
Mr. Plummer: Seventeen years, I haven't heard it, sir. I am waiting!
Mr. Schera: If you do the right thing, I will certainly be doing it.
Mr. Plummer: Will you do it quickly in case I don't win reelection?
Mr. Schera: When you vote American principles, American ideals, American's
language, and American's culture, then I certainly will. You know, I want to
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say, you see, I don't mind Cuban culture, but there cannot be 99 percent Cuban
culture. There has to be a certain amount of other cultures, which actually
there are 160 classes in the world. Now, you take the Hispanic...
Mrs. Kennedy: How many do you like?
Mr. Schera: I like them all. I like every one.
Mayor Suarez: But, we have no problem naming, if there is a ground -swell of
support, to name another part of the City after another particular ethnic
heritage, we have no problem doing that.
Mr. Schera: There is a problem. The problem is...
Mr. Plummer: Careful, you will have Ernie Fanatto down here in ten minutes!
Mr. Schera: ... too much designation.
Mayor Suarez: And you know, if we think it will help promote the City, and to
attract tourists and everything else.
Mr. Schera: You could promote the City if you just make a... let's say, a
pandering to all ethnic classes.
Mayor Suarez: No, for example, you referred to the fact that this area close
to here is known as Little Havana. You know, that was never done by any
official action. It is just known as Little Havana. That's part of the
reason that tourists go there, because it is known as Little Havana.
Mr. Schera: Well then, let it be, and since this is not Latin America, why
must we go around designating it as the Latin Quarter, I mean, you know, if
you are going to designate anything, make it the American Quarters of the
United States.
Mayor Suarez: But, in that case, nobody did, it just became known as Little
Havana. OK, thank you for your comments.
Mr. Schera: But, the thing is, there is a little too much of pressing forward
on one guy's culture, and that just happened to be primarily Cuban culture,
and it isn't that I have anything against my brother Cubans, because I think
there is a lot of fine ones out there.
Mayor Suarez: That's not really the way you made your argument. You really
don't want any quarters of the City, or any sections named after anything
except...
Mr. Schera: I don't want any names, it has nothing to do with liking Cubans.
Mayor Suarez: Yes, you just want... in New York, they go very far with that
concept. Even schools are named, I mean, just given numbers, you know, Public
School Number 250, and stuff like that. We think that is awful, I think that
is awful, but you know, some people like that, and you are entitled to like
that concept, that is fine.
Mr. Schera: Well, I'd rather go by numbers, then. I'd rather go by numbers,
because, well, it is our position we want all ethnic groups be equal, not some
unequal and getting like 99 percent of the share.
jMayor Suarez: OK, like the Commissioner said, the Vice -Mayor said, maybe you
j ought to come back and give us a proposal to name some other parts of Miami
after some other heritage or political...
Mr. Schera: No, because if you are going to start that, then you are going to
lead up to 160 heritages. I mean, it is impractical, since we live in
America, then there can only be one United States culture, which actually, is
a composite of all 160 cultures, and you can't have like, 99 percent Cuban
culture and say, "Hey, I am going to give a little crumbs for another 160."
You know what my point is here.
Mayor Suarez: No, I wish we did. OK, Ma'am.
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Ms. Katherine Childress: I am Katherine Childress, and I don't represent
anyone but myself today. OK, you are fostering an illusion of a homeland
which these immigrants fled by naming and parks streets after the heroes of
the country they left. This is the United States of America. You are aiding
these immigrants living in Dade County to be double minded about where they
belong. In sociology, this is called marginal man, people who are not fully
integrated in the area in which they live. This is America, and they are
Americans, we are all Americans. You would be doing a great service to our
immigrants if you would name parks and streets after American heroes. In this
way, they would be allowed to become acquainted with their new country's
history.
Mr. Plummer: Just for the record, you know, you make a very good point, and I
like your presentation, because I think it is well thought out. I don't
necessarily fully agree, but you know, I think people are failing to realize
that on this agenda, we are going to possibly, I hope, rename a park for a
local individual in this community. Now, where this concept comes from, that
we only name after your one culture, let's use the terminology, one culture.
I think that this Commission has had a tremendous amount of requests and have
been honored, and the proof of that is on this agenda today. So, you know, I
think that has to be put into the record. Now, when this gentlemen speaks
about 99 percent, we are talking about the potential, the possible naming, co -
naming, not naming, codesignation of 17 streets out of maybe 1,000 streets in
this City - 1,0001 So, I don't think that that is 99 percent. I think it is
a very small percentage. Most communities do have some kind of a cultural
community activity and area designated. I never lived in New York, but I
heard about the Little Italy, the German center, and all of these different
areas that are there, and Tampa for years has been proud of their Ybor City,
and it has been a thing that is for their community, so I just don't like to
hear that it is 99 percent for one culture.
Ms. Childress: OK, I didn't say that.
Mr. Plummer: No, Ma'am, I not speaking to...
Ms. Childress: OK, what I am saying is, when a culture settles a new country,
where there are, let's say the French in New Orleans. They settled there when
it was nothing. They built it up, it is their work, they created that area.
That is why it is called the French Quarter. It is not called the French
Quarter because the French came in over 20 years ago.
Mayor Suarez: But, you understand, Mrs. Childress, that in the State of
Florida, the Spanish were the ones that settled here until the year 1819,
rather recent.
Ms. Childress: That is true, but what I think I am trying to get across to
you is, we are all Americans, that is the main thing, right?
Mr. Carollo: That's correct.
Mr. Plummer: Exactly.
Mayor Suarez: Would you have any objections, just a question just struck me.
If the City decided to name a street after Mother Teresa...
Mr. Plummer: Co -designate.
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Ms. Childress: I don't know.
Mayor Suarez: That is just a hypothetical.
Mr. Carollo: She is not American.
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Mayor Suarez: I know that you have got a legal argument.
Ms. Childress: I will tell you what. How about naming the street after
George Washington Carver?
Mayor Suarez: We'll probably do that. There is already, I think, a school in
the area.
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Ms. Childress: How about Casimir Polasky?
Mr. Carollo: Well, how about Ronald Reagan?
Ms. Childress: He is not dead yet.
Mr. Carollo: Well, that's all right.
Ms. Childress: How about Kosiesko Thaddeus.
Mr. Carollo: That's all right.
Ms. Childress: How about Thaddeus Kosiesko.
Mr. Plummer: Physically, or politically?
Mr. Carollo: Wait a minute, excuse me. Before we get into that poem, I'd
just like to say, even though we disagree, I would like to thank you for
giving a presentation very calm, and very professional, and I mean that. You
know, we can disagree, thank God in this country, but I think the way that we
should disagree is the way you have gone about it. Well, the point that you
have made, you know, Plummer, you are still alive, and isn't there something
named after you around here? And there is a Kennedy Park and there is...
Mrs. Kennedy: No, no, that is the other Kennedy.
Mr. Plummer: Ferre always...
Mr. Carollo: There is a Steve Clark Park and...
Mr. Plummer: Ferre always told me if I would drop dead he would name the
police station after me. Of course, Ferre isn't here any more.
Mr. Carollo: If we are going on that assumption, we are going to have to make
some changes.
Mayor Suarez: Remember, we are getting cumulative in the arguments here, they
are getting repetitive, so please try to...
Ms. Childress: OK, well I am speaking extemporaneously, because I didn't even
think I was going to be here today, but I am glad to hear you say, Mr.
Carollo, that it is good to disagree, because I get the feeling that when you
disagree with something, you ban it, like the Sister Cities Convention, you
know, and things of that type.
Mr. Carollo: Can I take a few seconds to correct a very erroneous statement
that you made. Thank God we live in America, and everyone has the freedom to
say and do what they like. Now, I, and you know that very well, and so does
the Miami Herald, when they publish something that is untrue and is
slanderous: you know very well that I cannot ban, and this Commission cannot
ban anyone, or any convention from coming to Miami. What I could do, is by
one vote, out of five in this Commission, express my opinion, which is the
opinion of the majority of the voters of this City as expressed in 1982, when
76 percent of the voters said they agreed with me.
Ms. Childress: That was a nonbinding resolution.
Mr. Carollo: Well, are you saying that even though the people of Miami, a
majority feels a certain way, that then we don't have to listen to them. In
other words, are you saying...
Ms. Childress: You don't have to listen to them, because...
Mr. Carollo: What you are saying is, you like dictatorships...
Ms. Childress: No.
Mr. Carollo: ... so we are not supposed to listen to the people.
Ms. Childress: I am saying that in the United States of America...
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Mr. Carollo: Well, I'll tell you.
Ms. Childress:... we don't ban things like that...
Mr. Carollo: Well, again, I am correcting you. We haven't banned anything.
All that we said was, they are welcome to come to Miami, anyone is welcome to
come to Miami.
Ms. Childress: If we don't want...
Mr. Carollo: Those are the laws of the country.
Ms. Childress: OK.
Mr. Carollo: We just don't want to spend our dollars in paying for anybody's
way to come to Miami that is a government official of a Communist country.
Ms. Childress: I have a problem also about my dollars; as I said, I am
speaking extemporaneously, and it is really not a coincidence that in a City
like Miami, which has a Metrorail which doesn't take anyone anywhere, a
Bayside that is already dying, a City with a reputation that is smeared in the
New York Review of Books, which happens to be an intellectual paper, for those
of you who don't know, by Joan Giddeon, as being a wild west town.
Mr. Carollo: No, I could tell...
Ms. Childress: It is no wonder that I go down to Flagler Street, and already
I see statues on Biscayne Boulevard of people that are not of my culture, not
of my country, and that isn't so bad, but the thing that is really bad is that
I don't even have the opportunity to know who they are, because the signs on
them are completely in Spanish and that is giving me a message. It is saying,
"Insignificant one, you don't have to know who these people are, and we don't
care if you know who they are or not." That's the feeling I get when I see
them, and if you saw something like that in another language, you might get
the feeling that no one cared whether you knew who they were or not either.
How could you put only Spanish signs on statues on Biscayne Boulevard, so that
the non -Hispanic citizens of this City agree...
Mayor Suarez: That may not be a wise idea, but that is not what is before us
today. We are not putting any signs on any statues on Biscayne Boulevard. We
are only giving names to streets...
Ms. Childress: OK, these things...
Mayor Suarez: And keeping the number designations too, at the same time.
Ms. Childress: All right, maybe if I were not feeling so grieved at the other
impositions upon me, I would not object to you making a Latin Quarter with 17
names.
Mayor Suarez: But, I can't solve that other problem. You have got to write a
letter to the editor, or bring it up on a particular day, so that we can maybe
figure out why the inscriptions didn't have an English translation so people
would know who they were, which is a very wise idea, by the way.
Ms. Childress: It a cumulative of effects of 24 years of cultural genocide
that has been going on here against non -Hispanic Americans. Were it not for
that 24 year history, there would be no objections. It is just a final thing.
It is another assault. There is going to be another one, and another one, and
another one, and I want to know, when is it going to end?
Mayor Suarez: Let me give you one...
Ms. Childress: Leave us in peace!
Mayor Suarez: Let me give you one statistic that can maybe alleviate some of
your fears, and what appears to be a great deal of frustration. Tropic
Magazine, Miami Herald's Tropic Magazine did a survey of the attitudes of
people in this area, Hispanics and non -Hispanics, or white Americans, if you
wish... Black Americans, and asked whether they felt it was important for
their children to speak perfect English, and write perfect English and so on.
98 percent of Hispanics felt that it was, and only 94, 95 percent of non?-
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Hispanics thought, so that gives you an idea, there is no cultural genocide,
there great deal of interest from the Hispanic community to speak English to
write it and...
Ms. Childress: Cultural genocide means when the culture of a nation is
disrupted by a foreign culture, and that is what has happened to American
culture in Miami. Foreign cultures belong in the private domain, not in the
public domain.
Mayor Suarez: Thank you for your statement.
Ms. Childress: She made a better presentation on cruelty to animals.
Ms. Norma Post: I am Norma Post, I live at 2061...
Mayor Suarez: You can raise the mike a little bit, Norma, if you would.
Ms. Post: I live at 2061 Tigertail Avenue. I have two suggestions to make,
but first of all I would like to explain that the wearing of the flag, I think
to us, represents that we are unhyphenated Americans, that is the point I
think that wants to be made by those people. My mother came from another
country, but I am an unhyphenated American, and that is the way I like to be
known as.
Mayor Suarez: You don't like the hyphens, you like to just be known as an
American.
Ms. Post: I am not Anglo, I am not whatever else... unhyphenated.
Mayor Suarez: What is your ethnic ancestry, if I might - what country did
your ancestors come from?
Ms. Post: I think that is immaterial.
Mayor Suarez: Well...
Ms. Post: The things that I want to point out...
Mayor Suarez: ... do you have a problem telling me, because I just wanted to
ask you a question.
Ms. Post: No, not at all, I am very proud of my heritage, but I don't want to
detract...
Mayor Suarez: What were they?
Ms. Post: My mother came from Lithuania, and if you want to pick a country in
the entire world...
Mayor Suarez: OK, now, I was going to ask you a question. Do you have an
object...
Ms. Post:... where... well, that is why I didn't want to go into it - where
people have fought for their independence, more than any Cuba, more than any
other country in the world...
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Mayor Suarez: Yes, Lithuania. That's why I go to all their functions.
i Ms. Post:... because they have had... been Poland, Russia...
Mayor Suarez: Right.
Ms. Post:... Germany, have all gobbled up the little country of Lithuania and
President Roosevelt finished it...
Mayor Suarez: And did your parents...
Ms. Post:... for them in the last war, he gave it to Russia, so...
Mayor Suarez: Did your parents object if people called them Lithuanian
Americans? I just want to... I am curious.
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Ms. Post: My mother called herself a Lithuanian because she came from
Lithuania.
Mayor Suarez: I see, but you don't like the hyphen, and then the American
after it.
Ms. Post: I like to... that is right, either you are one or the other. I
don't see how one can be half and half, that I don't understand.
Mrs. Kennedy: Well, then, do you object to having the Statue of Liberty in
this country?
Ms. Post: The Statue of Liberty has nothing to do with that...
Mrs. Kennedy: It came from France.
Ms. Post: Yes, of course it did, but that has nothing to do with the subject.
Mayor Suarez: OK, I am sorry, go ahead, proceed.
Ms. Post: If I might in the time, I don't want to take up your time
unnecessarily. First of all, before I make my two suggestions, I wanted to
point out to you, when you are speaking about costs, you are not speaking
about those signs alone. You are speaking about public records, the plat
books, the changes that have to be made in the maps, in the plat books, in the
City records, for every house that is in this City, there is a separate
folder, and those folders are classified according to streets. All of this
has to be changed. There is more involved in this cost than simply being
provided by a separate... well, you have to have, if you have two streets.
Mr. Plummer: Not on a codesignation.
Ms. Post: Pardon:
Mr. Plummer: Not on a codesignation. If you were to rename the street in its
entirety, you are right, but a codesignation doesn't have to go through that
procedure, I am told by the Legal Department.
Ms. Post: Well, you mean in that area where that is changed, it doesn't have
to be changed on the records?
Mayor Suarez: No, because we are leaving the original designation on there.
Mr. Plummer: It will be co- ... the original designation with the street
number will still remain, OK?
Ms. Post: All right.
Mr. Plummer: They will be codesignated.
Ms. Post: All right, I will accept your answer on that.
Mr. Plummer: Excuse me, the City Attorney's office.
Ms. Post: All right, the other point that our Mayor has brought up, and I
happen to live on Tigertail Avenue, in the middle of this Indian country, and
if he thinks it is easy now to live in an area where we have nothing but
names, I suggest that someday you stand out in front of your property, as I
do. Many times, I go out to walk, to rake the leaves, or to do something in
front of my property, and I am not there for more than five minutes before I
have people stopping in either direction, they want to know where downtown
Coconut Grove is, they want to know where 0 is, where Miccanopy is,
where Po-ah-choochie is, Secoffee, nobody knows.
Mayor Suarez: Norma, I understand that.
Ms. Post: In fact, I have been stopped by taxi drivers, by deliver, trucks...
Mayor Suarez: Norma, I understand there is some confusion that can be caused
by that. In this particular case, that won't be the case, because we have got
codesignations. Now, my question is, don't you derive something positive out
of living on something called Tigertail, or those other names, don't they...
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Ms. Post: Well, let me ask you...
Mayor Suarez: I mean, I am just curious.
Ms. Post: Let me ask you, as long as you brought it up, what does Tigertail
mean to you?
Mayor Suarez: It means more than 5th Street, or something.
Ms. Post: What does it mean? Why is it Tigertail Avenue, do you know?
Mayor Suarez: No idea, but I should, and I would want to know, if you have an
idea. Do you?
Ms. Post: I know, but nobody else knows.
Mayor Suarez: Please tell us. I'm sure it has a historical meaning.
Ms. Post: Yes, surely.
Mayor Suarez: Does it? OK, tell us.
Ms. Post: There was a Chief Tigertail, the street is named after Chief
Tigertail. There is also a , which most people...
Mayor Suarez: And Indian names a lot of times were descriptive of what...
Ms. Post: And this particular Indian chief...
Mayor Suarez: And actually, they are not even Indians, really, they are
native Americans, but go ahead.
Ms. Post: But, this particular Indian chief was being transplanted to another
state by the government, and he protested, and he came back from where they
had shipped him to in protest, and again, when they were going to force him to
leave Florida, he committed suicide rather than leave Florida. That is the
significance, so this is the same value that naming these streets over some
unknown people have to somebody...
Mayor Suarez: Doesn't that have value, what you just did? You explained to
us the history of Tigertail.
Ms. Post: No, it doesn't really to me, because most people don't know. They
think it is because the street curves into a tail.
Mayor Suarez: Dade County, can you imagine if Dade County was named, you
know, 125th county or something? It was named after Francis Dade, and there
was an article in the Tropic Magazine this weekend, really interesting about
Francis Dade, Major Francis Dade. Wasn't it interesting?
Ms. Post: I think it would be much more...
Mayor Suarez: Wasn't much of a hero, actually, but go ahead.
Ms. Post: ... respectful, and of much more value to those strangers coming to
this country, as well as to the people who live in this Dade County, if they
9 just had a numbering system, and the same...
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Mayor Suarez: The problem with the argument is if you take it to its
conclusion, people should not have names either, they should have numbers, and
then we would really have a bad society.
Ms. Post: I'm very much disappointed in you, Mayor, because I didn't think
that you were going to quibble on every single issue. I think we have a very
valid point, and the suggestion that I wanted to make, one of two is, first of
all, with all of this, how much area does the Latin Quarter - I don't even
know what is supposed to be called the Latin Quarter, that I don't know to
begin with. Secondly, instead of quibbling about whether we have got how
many... this one representing Latin American, and that one representing
another one, where we got so many women, so many men, so many whatever. Why
not do it very simply as they did in New York City many, many years ago, and
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they named one street Avenue of The Americas
are you listening, Commissioner... oh, I see.
That took care of everybody...
Mayor Suarez: I think we have an Avenue of The Americas in Miami.
Ms. Post: Where is the Avenue of the Americas?
Mayor Suarez: I think we have an Avenue of The Americas...
Ms. Post: Where?
Mayor Suarez: 20th Street.
Ms. Post: Where?
Mayor Suarez: 20th Street.
Mr. Carollo: New York
Ms. Post: Well then, you have your Americas represented already. There is no
need...
Mayor Suarez: No, you have it.
Ms. Post: There is no need, if you have it in the City - I really was not
aware of that, I never seen it.
Mr. Plummer: It's recent.
Mayor Suarez: There you go.
Ms. Post: It is recent.
Mayor Suarez: By the way, we don't like to copy too many things that New York
does, but...
Ms. Post: Well, then, this covers all of the Americas. You don't have to
discriminate against anyone, and I think that this sufficiently covers it, and
the other suggestion I wanted to make to Mr. Bermello, if he wants...
Mayor Suarez: Please, please...
Ms. Post:.....To honor these people on his buildings, and those of those other
rich people that want to donate to this cause, let them put the plaque on
their building, put the name of this hero that they want, and that will be at
their expense, and then they can put their whole explanation in Spanish or
English, on their building, it doesn't matter to me what language it is in;
but on my City streets, it does matter to me, and I am sure that this is going
to cost us money in the long run, regardless of what you are going to say
right now the cost is going to be to us. Let's keep this simple. Don't
create any more confusion ii. this City, as we have in Coconut Grove, we have
in Coral Gables, with all of these namings. Make it easy for everyone who
comes here. I would like you to put a number on Tigertail, and a number on
Secoffee, and Natoma, and all them, so I don't have to go out there, and like
an information center to help people find around.
Mayor Suarez: And Shenandoah Park, we will just call it... give it a number
too.
Ms. Post: And if people go into so-called Latin Quarter...
Mayor Suarez: And Alice Wainwright Park, and we will just give them all
numbers.
Ms. Post: Are we talking about streets or parks at this moment?
Mayor Suarez: I am trying to find out why you wouldn't want to name then all
the parks and all.
Ms. Post: I am speaking about streets.
parks at this moment?
Are we speaking about streets or
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Mayor Suarez: It is only streets because the streets are the ones that create
the confusion, is your argument, but the codesignation should take care of
that obviously right?
Ms. Post: It is the streets, the streets are the ones that cause the
confusion, because you can progress easily from one to 100, even a child can
count that and figure whether it is south-west, or east -west, whatever
direction it is, so 1 don't see, I think you are compounding a problem for
everybody concerned, and it is going to cost us and I don't...
Mayor Suarez: We may someday go to codesignations for the Coconut Grove
Streets, you know, if you propose it to put numbers and so on.
Ms. Post: The trouble is, you see, you are creating more money to spend.
Mayor Suarez: No, that's been solved.
Ms. Post: It is so easy to just say, "Let's spend for this, let's spend for
that." Just leave...
Mayor Suarez: No, no, that has been solved, they are going to pay it. That
is not a valid argument anymore.
Ms. Post: Leave it as it is, and let him put those on his buildings, and on
all the buildings, privately.
Mayor Suarez: Please, please.
Mrs. Kennedy: I just hope I live... let me just say, Mr. Mayor, I just hope I
live long enough to see an end on prejudice, and that's all.
INAUDIBLE BACKGROUND COMMENTS NOT ENTERED INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD.
Mr. Bermello: Mr. Mayor and Commissioners, there are a number of people who
would like to address you. I just want to make some very, just quick points.
The issue of Coral Gables was...
Mayor Suarez: Please, not repetitive. We argued this issue philosophically,
practically...
Mr. Bermello:... brought up. George Merrick, when he created Coral Gables,
unfortunately, I guess, according to them, he made the mistake of naming every
street after cities and towns in Spain. It hasn't hurt Coral Gables at all, I
would say. I have heard this argument before. The veil of bigotry is very
thin, and I think it is an embarrassment for all of us Miamians to hear this
kind of argument. You know, the problem is, you are going to get tired of
hearing what people are against, but not really what they are for. If they
are for supporting George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, they should have been
here 60 years ago getting those streets named, but they come here today just
to react to you, the people that basically are for freedom in this continent,
and I think the kind of element that we are hearing here, this negativeness...
we are for building a better Miami, not for fighting and for destructing,
which is what we are hearing from these people, so I hope then in your wisdom,
you will support us when you hopefully move this item tonight. There are a
number of people that would like to speak on behalf of this item, and shed
some light on some additional areas.
Mayor Suarez: Just want to warn you that you are taxing our wisdom by making
more and more arguments that are really repetitive, but...
Ms. Natasha Milian: My name is Natasha Milian. As a point of clarification,
I would like to say that I have the American flag in my heart right next to my
roots. I am the president of the Coalition of Hispanic -American Women, and I
can remember when I was a young girl reading in Cuba the Havana Post and
taking high school bachillerato at the same time. I also went to Shenandoah
Elementary. I think I can cross both borders. Let me be very, very brief. I
think enough of the heated argument has been done. The Coalition of Hispanic -
American Women is an organization that counts in Miami 261 members, a cross
section of professional and business women clearly integrated into this
community. I stand before you today to request that you vote on the
codesignation of the streets, be as sensitive toward the roll of Hispanic
women have played in making a better world around us. These women of the past
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who are no longer among us, are always present in our daily life, for they are
roll models and we follow in their footsteps. We also urge to chose carefully
the people for whom you name these streets in order to honor them. They
should be people who have given their lives to defend their dreams, or those
who at the end of their life -cycle, their natural life -cycle, have left their
legacy of loyalty and courage. There are others who are worthy of be°ttg
acknowledged, rightfully so, but still have a life ahead of them to expand in
their accomplishments, be honored at another time. Thank you very much.
Ms. Alicia Baro: My name is Alicia Baro, and I am here representing the
National Conference of Puerto Rican Woman. I would like us to say that I
support this, very much so. I am of Puerto Rican origin. I am not a
hyphenated American, and I think it is very cruel to be called that. Puerto
Ricans have been identified with this country since 1898. We have been
American citizens for many, many years, and we are just as much Americans, and
feel as Americans, have fought for this country as much as any other
Americans, whether they come from Germany, France, Lithuania, or anyplace
else. I believe, however, that there are not enough women on this list. Out
of the 17 names, only four are women, and we have many women in many of our
countries that have been as patriotic, or have sacrificed, and have done as
much for the culture of the civilization of the world as any other man. I do
believe that most of the ones, or all of the ones I saw in the list were dead.
I don't think there was a living person except President Reagan. If you are
going to add people, in other words, if you are going to not limit yourself
to dead people who have already passed away, then I would suggest that you add
Felisa Ricon de Gautier, who is a very well known Puerto Rican woman, who was
mayor of San Juan, Puerto Rico for 20 odd years, and who has done so much to
benefit the institutions, the children, and all the projects in Puerto Rico.
I also suggest Julia de Burgos, if I may suggest as many as I may, Julia de
Burgos, which is also a well known feminist poet, feminist Puerto Rican woman,
well known and decorated, not only by Puerto Rico, but by the United States
and other countries. I do hope that this is going to be a fantastic project.
It is going to help our ity because it is going to be a tourist point. It is
going to be something that is going to make Miami greater than it is now, so I
do not only hope that you vote, but that you take into consideration that more
women should be added, and that if possible, you should have a representative
from each of the countries that were read off. In other words, you have
thirteen countries represented, I think you should have a representative from
each of those thirteen countries. Thank you.
Ms. Adela Azcuy: Adela Azcuy, 14865 S.W. 104 Street, number 21, Miami,
Florida, 33196. Good afternoon, Mayor Suarez, Commissioners, and the citizens
of Miami that are present. I am here before you on a very important mission,
on a very special day. Today is the 74th anniversary of the death of a very
special woman. I am speaking of La Capitana Adela Azcuy, and yes, I proudly
carry her name. I believe strongly in this effort to make the Latin Quarter
district a unique place in America, a place where we can all take pride in
people who left their mark in this hemisphere by recognizing their patriotic,
courageous and creative efforts, we are letting future generations know that
it pays to stand up for what you believe in and defend democracy. La Capitana
Adela Azc::y certainly is one such individual. She was a woman ahead of her
time. She was a woman who demanded to be created equally on the battle field
and off the battle field, and her courage and love of her country, my native
Cuba, allowed her to reach the unimaginable in 1896. During the Cuban War of
Independence, several women were noted for their role in the liberation of
Cuba. Yet, only one of these women who appeared in the pages of history has
won sand fought on the battle field. Adela Azcuy was distinguished for
her combatant ability and the medical assistance she provided to the injured.
Born in San Cayetano, Pinar del Rio, her true name was Gabriela de la Caridad,
although everyone knew her as Adela. Deep rooted ideals for the independence
of Cuba led her to join an underground revolutionary group in February of
1896. Upon the arrival of General Antonio Maceo to Pinar del Rio, she was
assigned to serve as his guide through the Province. The general was taken
aback when introduced to his guide, a woman. It was not long before he
recognized her merits, and she was given the position of flag bearer. In May
of 1896, she was ranked second lieutenant for her outstanding work as a
soldier. She is later promoted to captain of the army for independence, and
honored for the courage she displayed in every battle, among which was Loma
Blanca, where she fought under the direction of General Maceo.
Mayor Suarez: Miss Azcuy, we can put the entire narrative into the record, if
you want to just summarize the arguments.
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Ms. Azcuy: That's fine I just wanted for the individuals present, and for it
to be on the record who this individual was. I'll take this time then, to
introduce into the record a petition that I had signed by 500 individuals,
South Floridians, who support and urge the Commissioners to vote to have one
of the streets named in Little Havana in her honor.
Mrs. Kennedy: What we will do is immediately add her to the list, and then we
will select afterwards.
Ms. Azcuy: Again, I thank you for your time and I commend your efforts, and I
ask you to name a street in the Latin Quarter District, La Capitana Adela
Azcuy. You will make me proud, and the community. Thank you.
Mayor Suarez: Thank you, Mrs. Azcuy.
Ms. Childress: May I address Commissioner Kennedy, please.
Mayor Suarez: Well, that's...
Mr. Plummer: For the record, then...
Ms. Childress: No, this is very important.
Mayor Suarez: Do you want to answer, Commissioner, do you...
Mr. Plummer: Ma'am, for the record, you have to give your name and your
address.
Ms. Childress: Katherine Childress, 1821 S.W. 99th Court. I resent you
calling me prejudiced. I have adopted a Cuban girl and we send every week...
Mrs. Kennedy: But, this was not intended at you, specifically.
Ms. Childress: It doesn't matter, you don't know what they have done, either,
and we spend Mother's Day with her Cuban friends, Christmas with her Cuban
friends, and they spend Thanksgiving with us.
Mayor Suarez: Katherine, it was not directed at you, or at your comments,
which were eminently sensible.
Ms. Childress: You don't know anything about us, don't call us that!
Mayor Suarez: It was not directed at you.
Mrs. Kennedy: It was not directed at you. I did not like either the tone,
the implication that this group has done today, and it is very sad, it makes
me very sad, and I am sorry if I... I did not direct it at you.
Mr. Roberto Cambo: Mr. Mayor...
Mayor Suarez: Please, please. She said she was sorry if she in any way gave
an implication that she was referring to yourself. Go ahead, Roberto, and
summarize, because you are at risk of losing your momentum, here.
Mr. Cambo: Good afternoon, Mr. Mayor, my name is Roberto Cambo, 1316 N.W.
23rd Street, Miami, Florida Mr. Mayor, honorable Commissioners, Mr. City
Manager, ladies and gentlemen, I am here today to read to the Commission the
resolution 3-86, passed unanimously by the executive committee of the
Republican Party of Dade County on the 27th of October in 1986, reference,
Latin Quarter Review Board Street and Avenue Codesignation Program.
Mr. Plummer: The Republican Party?
Mr. Cambo: The Republican Party of Dade County, yes, sir.
Mr. Plummer: All three members?
Mr. Cambo: Yes, sir, yes.
"Whereas, Willy A. Bermello, chairman of the Latin Quarter Review
Board submitted to the City of Miami Commission under the
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codesignation program naming S.W. 12th Avenue Avenida Ronald W.
Reagan; and whereas, President Ronald W. Reagan, on May 20, 1983,
Cuban Independence Day, met with the Cuban exiles on the above
mentioned Avenue, and whereas Cuban Americans were responsible for
initiating the President Ronald W. Reagan's visit on this historic
day; and whereas the event was of great significance to the history
of Miami, the Republican Party of Dade County, and a Cuban American
who has contributed so much to the growth and progress of this City
of Miami; therefore, be it resolved that the Republican Party of
Dade County unanimously support Willy A. Bermello's proposal for
the codesignation program, to name S. W. 12th Avenue Avenida Ronald
W. Reagan. Be it resolved that Republican Party of Dade County
unanimously supports my own resolution, Roberto Cambo, to petition
the City of Miami Commission to co -designate S.W. 1st Street, Calle
Jose Marti, honoring Cuba's most revered patriot. In witness
whereof, the Republican Party of Dade County have caused this
resolution to be executed by the chairman, Jeb Bush and attested to
by its recording secretary, Dulce Cuetara, this 27th day of
October, 1986."
On behalf of the Republican Part of Dade County, we ask you, the leadership of
this great City to make this dream a reality. We thank you for your kind
attention.
Mayor Suarez: Pat, a final word, and then the end of the debate.
Ms. Keller: Each of you have been given the law. I've asked the City Clerk
to incorporate the law into the record.
Mayor Suarez: You don't have to, it is already part of our Code. Go ahead.
Ms. Keller: Well, I want it to be part of the record of this, what you
intend to do here. If you vote for this, you vote to violate the law. I want
to remind you that we have a place in the City set aside for just this
purpose, called Cuban Memorial Boulevard, and all along this boulevard are the
Cuban heroes, and that's where your own Street and Plat Committee referred you
to, when you wished to put up names of Cuban heroes.
Mayor Suarez: Please, please.
Ms. Keller: You are then free to do it there. I think the prejudice here is
a prejudice that we observed against the laws of the United States. We see
prejudice against the history of the United States. We see prejudice against
the customs and the naming law set aside here in the United States. I want to
thank you.
Mayor Suarez: Thank you for your statement. I entertain a motion or
discussion, hopefully none. We lost Willy. Who is now representing the
presenters of Latin Quarter?
Mr. Plummer: Well, let me ask this question. Where is Willy?
Mrs. Kennedy: That's what I just ask.
Mr. Plummer: Willy Bermello.
Mayor Suarez: I think he had to go to a Coral Gables Commission meeting.
Mr. Dawkins: Madam City Attorney...
Mr. Plummer: All right, let me ask this question, because I think, you know,
was there any significance given to any particular avenue or street? For
example, I have heard a very good request here today that I think that we name
another street after an American president, Teddy Roosevelt. I think that is
very, very appropriate and I think that it would be very significant in my
estimation, that the reason I am asking this is Simon Bolivar is on 17th
Avenue. If that was not significant, that if were to encompass 12th Avenue is
one dividing line, or the boundary, with Ronald Reagan, and were to take 17th
Avenue and make it the Teddy Roosevelt, then we would have the borders on each
end and move this one over to another designated street. So, Mr. Mayor, I for
one, would suggest that we use 12th Avenue as proposed, and that is the Ronald
Reagan, or Avenida Ronald Reagan, and that the 17th Avenue be the Avenida
Teddy Roosevelt. I think that would be very appropriate, and I...
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Mr. Carollo: Absolutely, and as the sole Republican in the Commission, I
welcome... you are switching parties?
Mr. Dawkins: No, you are.
Mr. Carollo: Well, we'll see about that, but as the sole Republican in the
City Commission, I welcome that resolution and I am sure it is going to be
endorsed by this full Commission to name 12th Avenue not only after our
President, but I think one of the most courageous and valiant presidents that
we have had in our history, and one of the most courageous leaders in the
history of mankind. At the same time, I think that naming 17th Avenue, is
that right?... after Teddy Roosevelt certainly is very appropriate. He was
another president that we had that was just as courageous, as some of the
finest that we have had, so I go along very much with that motion.
Mr. Plummer: Dick, I apologize, I just found out that Teddy Roosevelt was
also a Republican. I do apologize, I would have never...
Mr. Dawkins: Madam City Attorney...
Mr. Carollo: And he was the right type of Republican, not a member of the
Council of Foreign Relations, or the Trilateral Commission.
Mayor Suarez: Well, he was a great conservationist and a great writer, as
long as we are talking about Teddy Roosevelt. Anyhow, is that in the form of
a motion? I'm sorry, Commissioner Dawkins.
Mr. Dawkins: Madam City Attorney.
Mayor Suarez: On a clarification?
Mr. Dawkins: Clarification. Pat has said constantly that what we are doing
is a violation of the law. Pat has given me a piece of paper. Did you get a
copy of it?
Mrs. Dougherty: Yes, sir, we have a copy.
Mr. Dawkins: All right, and all it says on the paper is, "Names of avenues,
names of streets, names of Terraces, names of Lanes, names of courts and names
of places." Now, do we in any way violate a law codesignating a street? I
mean, I don't... do you see where we violate any laws by what we are doing?
Mrs. Dougherty: It is my opinion you are not.
Mr. Dawkins: OK, thank you.
Mayor Suarez: Do we have a motion, Commissioner, Vice -Mayor? Oh.
Mr. Carollo: If I may, Mr. Mayor, what I would like to do, is separate the
issue. Let's take out the Ronald Reagan one and the Teddy Roosevelt
separately, then the rest of them, then let's take up the others together
Mayor Suarez: OK, move those two initially?
Mr. Carollo: J.L., would you like to make the motion for all the others
and...
Mr. Plummer: Well, Joe, there is going to have to be some shuffling now,
because...
Mayor Suarez: We can leave that up to them.
Mr. Plummer: Why don't we make those three, well, wait a minute, let's make
the three.
Mrs. Kennedy: Wait a second.
Mr. Plummer: No, no, excuse me, listen to me, I think you will have no
problem.
Mrs. Kennedy: OK.
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Mr. Plummer: The three, which basically are the boundaries. The north
boundary of Flagler Street is not to be renamed. That is to stay, OK? Joe,
you want to make the motion in reference to Ronald Reagan, which is 12th
Avenue. I suggested Teddy Roosevelt, which is 17th Avenue, and I don't think
there is any discussion about Calle Ocho for 8th Street.
Mr. Carollo: No, not at all.
Mr. Plummer: So I think that that really sets the boundaries, and if we make
that in the form of one motion, you make it, I'll second it.
Mr. Carollo: Yes, I make that in the form of a motion for the boundaries
set...
Mayor Suarez: So moved.
Mr. Plummer: That we at least establish the boundaries.
Mayor Suarez: So moved and seconded. Any discussion?
Mr. Carollo: 12th will be Ronald Reagan, 17th Avenue will be Teddy Roosevelt.
Mr. Plummer: And S.W. 8th Street would be Calle Ocho as it is commonly known
now...
Mrs. Kennedy: And so will Flagler.
Mr. Plummer: ...and Flagler Street remains.
Mrs. Kennedy: Yes.
Mayor Suarez: And Flagler remains. So moved and seconded. Any discussion?
Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Carollo, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 87-467
A RESOLUTION CO -DESIGNATING SOUTHWEST 8TH STREET
BETWEEN 12TH AND 17TH AVENUES AS CALLE OCHO; 12TH
AVENUE BETWEEN NORTHWEST 1ST STREET AND SOUTHWEST 9TH
STREET AS RONALD REAGAN AVENUE; AND 17TH AVENUE
BETWEEN NORTHWEST 1ST STREET AND SOUTHWEST 9TH STREET
AS TEDDY ROOSEVELT AVENUE; FURTHER DIRECTING THE CITY
CLERK TO TRANSMIT A COPY OF THIS RESOLUTION TO CERTAIN
NAMED GOVERNMENT OFFICES.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
DISCUSSION ON ROLL CALL:
Mr. Dawkins: Hold it, hold it. 17th Avenue will be Ronald Reagan as far as
what?
Mr. Plummer: No, no.
Mr. Carollo: 12th Avenue.
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Mr. Dawkins: Whichever one, it will be Ronald Reagan as far as what?
Mayor Suarez: It only goes up to Flagler, right?
Mr. Plummer: Yes, it comes...
Mayor Suarez: The designation only goes up to Flagler.
Mr. Dawkins: On the other side of Flagler, it will be...
Mr. Plummer: No, I am sorry, no, it will be from N.W. 1st Street to S.W. 9th
Street.
Mrs. Kennedy: Right.
Mayor Suarez: Right, oh, to 1st Street then.
Mr. Dawkins: It will not be Ronald Reagan north of 36th Street.
Mayor Suarez: All right, you got the clarification.
Mrs. Kennedy: Neither will that be the Latin Quarter.
Mr. Dawkins: No problem.
Mayor Suarez: With that clarification, please reflect, Commissioner...
Mr. Plummer: And I promise you, Miller Dawkins, that the Rough Rider will not
go up 17th Avenue.
Mayor Suarez: Continue calling the roll before these streets lengthen any.
Mr. Carollo: We still are not touching North River Drive, right?
Mr. Plummer: No, thank God.
Mrs. Kennedy: Now, Mr. Mayor, we have heard a lot of good suggestions today,
as far as names and I think that... at least I would like to table that until
at least the following meeting, so we can get some more input.
Mr. Plummer: Well, let me ask this question. I have no problem with that,
but what does that do with the invitation of the Vice -President coming here?
Mayor Suarez: Well, the idea, I think, would be to delegate that within the
names that have been proposed, if they are all acceptable to the committee, so
that they can work it out, not to have another full fledged hearing in this.
Mrs. Kennedy: For example, the inclusion of more women in...
Mr. Plummer: Well, no, I don't want to do that.
Mayor Suarez: We have 15 items yet, to go through today.
Mrs. Kennedy: Well, I do!
Mr. Plummer: No, no, I want to come back with the Azcuy name in there, but I
want this Commission to have the final designation.
Mrs. Kennedy: Yes, of course.
Mr. Plummer: Oh, OK, send it back to them.
Mrs. Kennedy: Send it back to this Commission...
Mr. Plummer: No, my only question was that Willy Bermello indicated that
there was a potential of having the Vice -President come down for the
dedication. What does that do if we defer the rest? I think he is really
only interested in Ronald Reagan, to be honest with you, and if we have done
that, then he maybe still will come with no problem. Can anybody answer that?
Mrs. Kennedy: presentation.
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Mr. Plummer: The question is, when Willy spoke, he said that if we got this
accomplished tonight, we have now done the boundaries, that chances were that
the Vice -President would come down and participate in the dedication. Where
we are doing just the boundary streets without the center, will he still come
down? - because I think his main interest in Ronald Reagan.
Mr. Cambo: Well, the only thing, as the official of the Republican Party that
I am, the only thing I can tell you is a desire for the Vice -President to come
down, but where it is going to be Ronald Reagan Avenue in the Latin Quarters
is up to you people to desire, We don't know if the Vice -President is going
to come definitely, after we call the White House and tell him, but he is
willing to come.
Mayor Suarez: We understand you have no instructions.
Mrs. Kennedy: In other words, you don't have a definite date at this point.
Mr. Cambo: Definite, I cannot answer for him, but definitely he was willing
to come.
Mr. Carollo: Make sure he checks with Pat Keller before he comes and gets
some...
Mr. Cambo: Pardon me, Commissioner?
Mr. Carollo: I said make sure that he checks with Pat Keller before he comes,
so that he understands that there are other differences of opinions here also.
Mr. Cambo: OK, we sure will.
Mayor Suarez: OK, what is the... how do you want to phrase the motion, then?
Mrs. Kennedy: I'd like to defer the naming of the... I'd like to move to
approve this in principle, and then come back at the next Commission meeting
with their recommendations for us to approve them, and so I move.
Mayor Suarez: So moved.
Mr. Plummer: I second the motion.
Mr. Dawkins: Under discussion...
Mr. Plummer: I think you ought to go one step further, Rosario.
Mrs. Kennedy: OK.
Mr. Plummer: There are then left out of V streets, we have taken four out,
that leaves 13. I think that it would be proper that you put in there a
percentage, to the committees of what you expect of women, so that they will
have some sense of direction.
Mrs. Kennedy: I would say no less than one-third.
Mr. Plummer: OK, I think that is fair.
Mrs. Kennedy: And that is very reasonable.
Mr. Dawkins: OK, I think the 'godfather' is trying to say something. Can we
get a translator down here for... OK.
Mr. Carollo: You better translate that designation you gave him also.
Mr. Plummer: E1 Presidente Viva.
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Mrs. Kennedy: Boy, you showed them.
Mr. Odio: He said the next street he wants to nominate is Plummer's street.
Mr. Dawkins: We already got one up in front of his funeral home.
Mayor Suarez: Wait, wait.
Mr. Cambo: Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Suarez: Don't....no more clarifications on the Vice -President's visit,
please.
Mr. Cambo: No, the only thing I have to clarify is, they just informed me of
that, and I forgot about it, is a tentative date for the Vice -President to
come in, which will be the 17th, it is tentative.
Mr. Plummer: Yes.
Mr. Cambo: But, we have to call him and we have to confirm it.
Mayor Suarez: Fine, fine, we understand all of that. OK.
Mr. Odio: Mr. Mayor, if I may for a special privilege, I'd like to introduce
Carlos Smith, who you know, unfortunately, Portuondo is leaving, he was my
right hand in many things and...
Mr. Dawkins: No wonder things went wrong!
Mr. Odio: Carlos Smith will be replacing him on June 6th.
Mr. Plummer: Yes, I want to know why all of these guys are coming out of
private business and going into government?
Mrs. Kennedy: But, then they are leaving to go back to private business.
Mr. Carollo: Where was he your right hand at?
Mr. Odio: In the Police Department, in the... you know when...
Mr. Carollo: Where, not when.
Mr. Odio: What do you mean?
Mr. Carollo: Where was he your right hand at.
Mr. Odio: Oh, when we're rowing.
Mr. Carollo: Well, where?
Mr. Odio: We were on the same side.
Mr. Carollo: Oh, OK.
Mayor Suarez: There is definitely a correlation between the assistants to the
City Manager and people...
Mr. Dawkins: He doesn't belong to Rowing Club, I hope.
Mayor Suarez: ... who belong to the Rowing Club.
Mr. Odio: I don't know, but...
Mr. Dawkins: You will get him in it, though?
Mr. Odio: I will.
Mr. Plummer: He belongs to Casino Espanol.
Mr. Carollo: Now, you know. You have got to row your way into City
government.
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Mr. Odio: Well, I learned that when you now together for many years, and you
gain certain strengths... no, no, no.
Mayor Suarez: You are not going to no, thank you.
Mr. Carollo: Carlos Smith, what kind of a name is that?
Mrs. Kennedy: Like Rosario Kennedy.
Mr. Odio: Believe it or not... is Pat Keller still here? This guy is Cuban,
Cuban -American, Carlos Smith.
Mayor Suarez: OK, without getting into the issue of hyphenated names, what,
the motion, did you want to make it a step further, you said?
Mrs. Kennedy: To include no less than a third, OK.
Mr. Plummer: Yes.
Mayor Suarez: Ready, so moved and seconded. Any discussion? Call the roll.
Ms. Evelynne Liseon: I have a question, Mr. Mayor, before you conclude this
issue. You mentioned the boundaries.
Mayor Suarez: For the record, Ma'am, your name and address.
Ms. Liseon: Oh, I am sorry, my name is Evelynne Liseon, I live at 2530 S.W.
15th Street, here in Miami, and my question is this, regarding real estate
problems, this business of dual names for streets could pose a problem, and I
am interested particularly, when you mentioned boundaries, you say the north
and south arteries are going to be given special names. How far do those
names go?
Mr. Plummer: We just said that, Ma'am.
Ms. Liseon: Are they going to be like Grapeland and 27th Avenue, so that you
don't...
Mayor Suarez: We said all the boundaries, but we will say it one more time.
I think the northern boundary is S.W. 1st, the southern boundary is S.W. ...
Ms. Liseon: No, I am talking about...
Mr. Plummer: No, no. The northern boundary is N.W. 1st.
Mayor Suarez: N.W. 1st. The southern boundary is S. W. 9th.
Mrs. Kennedy: S.W. 9th.
Mr. Plummer: Is S.W. 9th.
Mrs. Kennedy: From 12th to 17th Avenue.
Mayor Suarez: The east is 12th Avenue and the west is 17th Avenue. That is
it, beyond that point, there is...
Mr. Plummer: Excuse... no. That is the boundaries for the streets.
Mayor Suarez: That's it.
Ms. Liseon: But, I need to clarify the point, you haven't cleared it up yet.
Mayor Suarez: OK, what is the question?
Ms. Liseon: The point is, are you naming 12th Avenue as far as your
boundaries to the south and as far...
Mayor Suarez: Exactly.
Ms. Liseon: But, you are not... it is still going to be 12th Avenue, north
and south.
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Mayor Suarez: Yes, Ma'am.
Mr. Plummer: Yes, Ma'am. 0
Ms. Liseon: Oh, then I have no quarrel with that.
Mr. Plummer: It is codesignation.
Mrs. Kennedy: And under the 12th Avenue name, you will have the other name.
Mayor Suarez: And only during that span.
Ms. Liseon: But, it won't go beyond that point?
Mayor Suarez: No, Ma'am.
Ms. Liseon: Just, I see... within that area, and that's it.
Mayor Suarez: Exactly. Exactemente!
Ms. Liseon: Thank you very much.
Mayor Suarez: Call the roll.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Kennedy, who moved
its adoption:
MOTION NO. 87-468
A MOTION APPROVING IN PRINCIPLE THE PROPOSED STREET
CO -DESIGNATION PROGRAM FOR THE LATIN QUARTER DISTRICT
WITH THE STIPULATION THAT NO LESS THAN ONE-THIRD OF
THE RECOMMENDED CO -DESIGNATIONS SHALL BE NAMES OF
WOMEN; FURTHER DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO BRING
SAID MATTER BACK FOR FINAL APPROVAL AT THE NEXT
COMMISSION MEETING.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
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Mr. Carollo: OK, now, if I could bring up an item that someone has an
emergency.
Mayor Suarez: I think it was S-1, wasn't it?
Mr. Carollo: No, 69, and then I'll bring up the S-4, I think it was. 69,
they have an emergency.
Mr. Plummer: 69? Always an emergency. State the nature of the emergency.
Ms. Aida Levitan: Baby-sitting problems. I was supposed to be there by 6:00
p.m. and it is already 6:15 p.m.
Mayor Suarez: Thank you.
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Ms. Levitan: Aida Levitan, Aida Levitan and Associates, 2100 Coral Way, Suite
101, Miami, 33145. I am here present the proposal for the renewal of the
contract, Miami and New World Center to bring three tours of national and
international journalists to Miami, to promote the City as an international
business center, as a cultural center, as a medical center and as a sports
center. Before you on the table, you have samples of the more than 65
articles that have been published as a result of only two tours. The result
on the third tour are to be expected within the next month or so. The City
required only 60 articles, we have already produced more than 65, and they are
valued at $500,000, for example, Estado Salvado from Brazil, which has a
1,000,000 circulation would have cost the City over $20,000 one ad, one full
age, and we got more than nine articles out of these people in Estado Salvado.
four different programs, those are supposedly, according to them,
reaching 40,000,000 people across Latin America. That would have cost again,
thousands of dollars. People in Chicago read several publications written by
several journalists from Chicago, again, very expensive space that would have
cost the City a considerable amount of money. T.V., as well as the
national network also came on the tours and covered Miami extensively.
Mrs. Kennedy: Excuse me Aida, one second. You called me yesterday, we
couldn't meet, I was extremely busy. The Manager tells me he has to recommend
against it. I would like to meet with you, I'd like to defer this until the
next Commission meeting so you and I have time to meet and talk.
Ms. Levitan: Commissioner, I'll be very happy to answer your questions now,
if you have any questions. I've waited for three hours and I would really
appreciate being able to answer the questions on the program. The reason I am
a little bit in a hurry is because... let me explain why.
Mayor Suarez: Aida, but it might enhance your chances of prevailing. Well,
the reason is very simple. We would like to be able to bring a tour in the
summer, because we have been told by a lot of the hotels and a lot of the
airlines and the rent -a -car that they are having problems with the dates
that we have presented to them in the past. In order to bring a tour in the
summer, we would really have to start the planning immediately, and it takes
the City sometimes like a month to be abl(.- to process all of the necessary
legal work, for us to begin working formally under programs, so please, excuse
me, but I would appreciate if we were able to present today.
Mr. Plummer: Aida, am I your friend? It is going to be deferred.
Ms. Levitan: OK.
Mayor Suarez: Let me tell you one thing why you are here. I really
appreciate your sending me all of those copies of the articles published
throughout the world. Please don't send them to my house, though. My kids
scribble on the back of them and they end up just sort of being trash, and I
have to get rid of them. I have quite enough other stuff. Just send them to
City Hall.
Ms. Levitan: Well, we did send it to City Hall and we thought that you
weren't receiving them, so we sent it to your house, but I am sorry.
Mayor Suarez: We are receiving it and they are numerous. You know, it is
true that you got a lot of publications.
Mrs. Kennedy: And I will tell you what, we will schedule you... Mr. Manager,
I know that she has been here waiting, so if you could schedule her either the
first thing after lunch, or the first thing in the morning, or try to work
it...
Mr. Plummer: On the 28th.
Mrs. Kennedy: On the 28th.
Mr. Plummer: That is in two weeks.
Mr. Carollo: Well, let me say the following, that I think the job that she
has performed throughout the years for this City has been tremendous. I wish
we would only get half of the return that we have gotten from her in some of
the other people that we have contracted with, and I for one will vote
favorable in this additional request for this coming fiscal year's budget.
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Ms. Levitan: Thank you very much.
Mayor Suarez: OK, moved to defer, and seconded. Any discussion? Call the
roll.
THEREUPON, the City Commission on motion duly
made by Commissioner Kennedy and seconded by
Commissioner Plummer, deferred consideration of
the above matter by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
Mr. Plummer: Aida, may I suggest that you keep these brochures so you don't
have to produce new ones, because I alreadt have one.
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NOTE FOR THE RECORD: Vice -Mayor Plummer directed the Administration to include
the supplemental agenda material in the same package which contains the
regular agenda.
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63. DISCUSSION re CHANNEL 10 STATEMENT IN CONNECTION WITH COMMISSIONER
CAROLLO.
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Mr. Carollo: If I may, I see the ex -editorial reader of the Chanatel 10
television station here, Ron Sacks, and Ron, it is good to have you today. I
am going to try to do everything that I can to make sure that you do well on
your probation on WNWS talk show that you were given, but the only thing that
I would like to ask you, since your format is on the air many hours, and mine
is here, is that when people call in and purposely, either through being
misinformed, or maybe thinking that all of us Cuban -Americans look alike, or
it is just Ron that gives some information like was given there that I have
spent $30,000 on a desk, when you have been very actively involved in politics
in this town should know that is not the case, and in particularly after my
staff called the station, spoke to the producer to make sure that the station
was aware that, that was not true, I think it is only fair to get a
clarification on the air on that subject.
Mr. Ron Sacks: If I may, Mr. Commissioner, one or two brief sentences.
Mr. Plummer: Your name.
Mr. Sacks: Ron Sacks, formerly with Channel 10, now with WNWS, and in private
business. Commissioner, I did make a correction on the air. It was not my
statement, it was a caller's, but I'd also like to correct you, that anybody
that called in on that program two days ago and took issue with you, you
accused of being either a Communist, high on drugs, out of the gutter, or
somebody I set up to call, and that is not the case, sir.
Mr. Carollo: That is not true, Ron, and you know that. That is not true.
Mr. Sacks: I have the tape if anybody would like to hear it.
Mr. Carollo: Well, I have it too, and that is not true, whatsoever, but I
understand that you have to Cuban bait bait in order...
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Mr. Sacks: OK, I will publicly acknowledge that you do not have a $30,000
desk.
Mr. Carollo: Very good, and for the record, the desk that I have is the same
desk that has been around City Hall for about approximately 12 years or so,
when I came, and I have had it for eight years, so it has been around for
about 20 years now, so I just wanted to make sure that if there were any
questions in your mind, they would be clarified, but again...
Mr. Sacks: (OFF MICROPHONE)
Mr. Carollo: Yes. I am not taking issues with you on that, and any of your
other opinions that I think that you have every right to feel whichever way
you want to, just like I have the right to feel the way that I might, I just
think that when other issues come, that we know they are not correct, they
should be clarified, so I thank you for taking the opportunity to listen to
that.
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64. A. DEMAND HERALD CLARIFICATION
CITIES CONVENTION.
B. PROPOSE CHARTER AMENDMENT
COMMUNIST GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS
C. CITY WELCOMES SISTER CITIES
MIAMI.
OF STATEMENT re CAROLLO AND SISTER
REFERENDUM: SHOULD CITY SUBSIDIZE
COMING TO MIAMI FOR CONVENTIONS.
INTERNATIONAL ANNUAL CONFERENCE TO
Mr. Carollo: Insofar as the Sister Cities Convention that was supposed to
come to Miami in 1988, July of 1988, I think all of my colleagues know when
this came before this Commission in the middle of last year, the information
that we all had was very much limited as to what countries would participate,
or in fact, even to what countries had cities that were sister cities with
others in the country. I think everyone voted their conscience. I think
everyone acted in an honorable way, whether we agreed or disagreed, but at the
time, we did not have all the information before us. Now, I especially would
like to compliment my colleague, Commissioner Plummer, that I think has acted
very honorable in trying to do the best for the City of Miami. Now, having
said that, since the middle of 1986, we approved $25,000 toward this
convention. At that time, and the minutes are clear, one of the main
objections that I presented, when I voted no, was the fact that this
convention was actually a small convention. We should not have set the
precedent in paying $25,000 for a small convention. We have approximately 200
conventions a year in Miami that are that size, and to my knowledge, we are
not paying, we're giving, $25,000 a year to any other of those conventions,
approximately 200, that are the same size. Conventions like that, that would
take approximately 400 rooms are very common. It is nothing extraordinary to
have a convention of 400 rooms here. Once, I found out, last month, that
there was going to be the possible participation in this convention, of up to
71 cities in communists countries; cities that would be represented not by
factory workers or common citizens, cities that would be represented by the
official government representatives of that country, countries that have no
freedom whatsoever, no human rights, no liberties, no elections, I felt that
I, as a Commissioner was morally obligated to vote the way the majority of the
voters of Miami expressed themselves in the straw ballot question of 1982,
when approximately 76 percent of the voters of the City of Miami stated, that
was over 21,000, voters that they did not want their City's taxpayer's dollars
used in conventions or conferences that would bring government officials from
communist countries to Miami. Now, the only statement that I have ever made,
or that I would bring up a resolution, towards that effect of not having the
City of Miami give $25,000 whether direct or through in -kind service, in this
convention. After that, an article appeared in the Miami Herald by Mr. Carl
Hiaasen, which I think he has every right again to express his opinion,
whichever way he would want to express it, and whichever way he sees it, but I
think that he also has a responsibility as a journalist to be accurate in what
he writes and to be factual, and he made the following statement. He said
that I questioned whether Sister Cities International should be allowed to
hold its 1988 convention in Miami if representatives of Communist countries
would attend. Neither I, nor anyone in this Commission, or this City has
questioned of whether they could hold this convention in Miami or not. That
would be against the laws of this county, state, and this country, and Mr.
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Hiaasen knows that quite well. At this point in time, I would like to ask
this Commission, since this is not an issue of whether we are disagreeing or
not in Mr. Hiassen expressing his point of view. He has done that many of
times with each and every one of us, at different points in time. He has that
right, but I think he also has an obligation to be accurate in his facts, and
not be slanderous in making false statements, and particularly false
statements that are a violation of the law, and I would like to bring a
resolution up that would request from the Miami Herald, and have our City
Attorney read the resolution that she made that was drafted, to correct the
error that was made by Mr. Hiassen in his article and Madam City Attorney, if
you could read the resolution that I would like the Commission to vote upon.
Mrs. Kennedy: Excuse me, did we get copies of the resolution?
Mrs. Dougherty: Yes, Ma'am.
(THEREUPON, CITY ATTORNEY READS RESOLUTION INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD; SEE
HEREINBELOW.)
Mr. Carollo: I'd like to move that resolution.
Mr. Plummer: I have no problem seconding the motion. Is it wrong to say that
the longest running column in the Miami Herald is setting the record straight?
Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded.
Mr. Carollo: And again, now that it has been seconded, for discussion, we
have no problems in the difference of opinions that Mr. Hiassen has with me in
this issue, and has had with each and every one of us on numerous occasions.
Frankly, I can't say that I have ever seen a positive column written by him.
It seems that every time he writes it he is attacking and being negative on
something, but that is his right, thank God, under the laws of this country,
but I think that he has an obligation, even more so than most people, since he
is a journalist, if he is going to disagree with something, to be accurate and
not to be slanderous in what he writes.
Mrs. Kennedy: Just for my information, have we ever passed a resolution
asking fora clarification from a newspaper?
Mr. Carollo: No, we have passed resolutions, asking of these papers here in
the past to make sure they would correct articles that have written that were
erroneous.
Mr. Plummer: No further discussion, call the roll.
Mayor Suarez: Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Carollo, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 87-469
A RESOLUTION DEMANDING THAT THE MIAMI HERALD PUBLISH A
RETRACTION OR CLARIFICATION OF THE STATEMENT APPEARING IN
THE MAY 13, 1987 ISSUE AND THE COLUMN OF CARL HIASSEN
WHICH FALSE AND MISLEADING STATEMENT INDICATED TAT A
QUESTION EXISTED AS TO THE CITY'S ALLOWING OR DISALLOWING
THE SISTER CITIES INTERNATIONAL CONVENTION TO BE HELD IN
THE CITY OF MIAMI, SAID RETRACTION OR CLARIFICATION BEING
REQUIRED TO ESTABLISH THE FACT THAT THE ONLY ANNOUNCEMENT
BY CITY COMMISSIONER JOE CAROLLO WAS HIS STATED INTENTION
TO INTRODUCE A RESOLUTION THAT WOULD PROHIBIT THE
ALLOCATION OF CITY FUNDS IN SUPPORT OF SAID CONVENTION IF
IT WERE TO BE HELD IN MIAMI, IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE
PREFERENCE OF A MAJORITY OF THE CITY ELECTORATE AS
EXPRESSED IN A NOVEMBER 1982 STRAW BALLOT REFERENDUM.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here
and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote-
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AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
NOES: Commissioner Rosario Kennedy*
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
ABSENT: None.
NOTE:* On roll call, Commissioner Kennedy voted affirmatively, but later in
the discussion changed her vote to "no".
ON ROLL CALL:
Mr. Dawkins: I've no problems with it, because it will be either wrong or
right, yes.
Mayor Suarez: I vote no. I don't think the City should take any official
action in regards to a column by a columnist. I will be more than happy to
share my views with Carl Hiassen as to his columns and I have done that in the
past by replying to him, a lot of times the Herald publishes the reply. I
must say that I agree with the Commissioner that he tends to write negative
columns.
Mr. Carollo: That is right, you know, and we are not getting involved at all
in the...
Mayor Suarez: Yes, I've seen one positive one, Commissioner and Vice -Mayor,
I've seen one positive one by Mr. Hiassen.
Mr. Carollo: That's the same Carl Hiassen, after we spent $50,000 to get a
telecast from Dade County, that went over to Fisher Island and actually put
this City, this South Florida down, unbelievably.
Mr. Odio: He said: "There is nothing wrong with Miami that a good hurricane
would not cure." That is what he said on national television, and in dealing
with the A.S.T.A. convention, president, he tried to bring them here, the
president was appalled, that he read a book written by this same person that
really puts down this area for tourism.
Mayor Suarez: Oh, the single most damaging public appearance by a Miami
journalist that I've seen, but I thought my answer in the Miami Herald was
better than his appearance. Anyhow, any other items?
Mr. Carollo: If I may, on this same topic, I'd like to clarify some
additional issues that were brought up quite erroneously. Some of the
statements that have been made are that I somehow, or by this convention not
coming to Miami, that it would somehow prevent other international conventions
or conferences coming to Miami. That is not accurate at all. To begin with,
if I can go back a little bit into history, I think that is the best way of
doing this and being factual in recollecting what has actually happened and
what hasn't, and have been the facts. Because of this Commissioner directly
getting involved in 1982, along with the help of others in the City
government, we were able to bring to the City of Miami probably the most
valuable convention that we could ever bring, and that was the A.S.T.A.
convention, where we had delegates from all parts of the United States, all
parts of the free world. These individuals that came, represent an
organization of over 20,000 people worldwide. They are the travel agents that
sell certain areas for tourist. I personally sat with Mr. Joe Stone, the
president of A.S.T.A., in 1982, together with Cesar Odio that was present
during many of those meetings, and negotiated many of the things that we had
to with him, including a step that he said that had never been taken before in
the history of A.S.T.A., that Cuba was dis-invited and the Soviet Union got
the message loud and clear, and they did not send any delegates. The
difference was at that time, that whether delegates were to come or not, from
the Soviet Union or Communist countries. They were not official government
representatives, supposedly, anyway. After that, we got involved, and I
personally negotiated some of the contracts that were made with the Miss
Universe Pageant and we had in Miami two Miss Universe pageants, where we had
young ladies from all over the world come to Miami. We had two that came from
eastern bloc countries at that time and one of them, shortly after she saw our
way of life, how different it was from what she was used to, soon defected and
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never went back behind the iron curtain. These again, were regular citizens
from these countries, not government officials. During that time, the
coverage that was given by the Miami Herald to the A.S.T.A. convention, was
frankly very minimal. The coverage Lih-it they gave to the Miss Universe
pageants was none. In fact, the few mentions that were made was attacking us
for bringing these pageants here, when those pageants, as everyone that
mentioned it to us from different parts of the country and the world, gave
Miami a very strong foundation for what we are seeing today. It helped us show
Miami to the rest of the country, the rest of the world, for what Miami really
is, the new Miami, that is a beautiful, exciting, and modern, international
City. Just recently, last month, through the efforts that were begun when we
went to Rome in November of 1985, to the A.S.T.A. convention in Rome, we were
able to bring Cruisefest 187, which approximately 1,000 travel agents came
here to Miami from A.S.T.A. and hopefully, they are going to be doing this
every year and it is going to place us in a good position after they saw
Bayside and how Miami has changed since they came in 1982, to bring A.S.T.A.
back to Miami in 1989. Now, I am sticking to facts, because it is one thing
when people disagree, but I think when disagree, they should stick to facts
and be accurate, and not just attack for the sake of attacking. It is just
like some might accuse me of "red baiting" something that is not completely at
all accurate, because this Commissioner, whether I have an election this year
or not, would have taken the same action. In fact, it is the same action that
I took in my very first meeting, when I was first elected in 1979 and I had
four more full years to serve before my next election, on my very first day, I
took a similar action when the Marxist Prime Minister at that time in Jamaica
was coming to Miami. Now, there have been some mention in the Miami Herald
and the Miami News that this convention was going to be bringing hundreds and
hundreds of thousands of dollars. Well, it is quite questionable if indeed it
was going to bring or not $700,000, but I will tell you what is accurate and
it is the information that I have before me here, that is signed by Assistant
Police Chief Larry Boemler of the Miami Police Department, and in April of
last year where we had one day where we had a demonstration and counter -
demonstration, where maybe you had 2,500 people all together, according to the
estimates that the media gave, just in that one day the City of Miami Police
Department spent on police protection, over $77,000 in overtime alone. That
did not include the additional tens of thousands of dollars that we spent on
that day on police officers that were working on that day already, and had to
be taken from other parts of the City and brought to the downtown area to
maintain the peace, and tranquility of this community at that time. Now, in a
City that has well over half its population that has had to flee one Communist
country or another, I don't think anybody could think that you are not going
to have people that live here, exercise their constitution rights and not be
able to demonstrate or to picket against the government officials of some of
these very same countries that they had to flee, some of these very same
countries that they had families members killed, thrown in jail, they
themselves been thrown in jail or tortured, they also have that right, and you
can be sure that these government officials from the Soviet Union, from
Nicaragua, from Communist China would have come to Miami, you would have had
several thousand people picketing, and demonstrating, and expressing their
same constitutional rights of expressing their opinions, and their freedom of
expression and speech. And three days of this at this convention, just going
on the same, very conservative estimates that were given to us, just in what
it costs in overtime alone, about the Miami Police Department, you would have
had a cost, and this is a very conservative cost, of $250,000. That is not
including any other additional costs of what it would have cost to bring
additional officers there that were working at that time. So, the figures of
what this would have brought financially to this community, for a small
convention like this, was very inaccurate. Furthermore, when this was first
discussed in the middle of last year by this Commission, I spoke to some of
the people from our convention center at that time, to see why this had to
come before the Commission and why the hotels themselves did not sponsor this
and raise the $25,000, and I was told at the time that the hotel, or the
hotels that would be involved did not consider it a large enough convention
for them to spend that kind of money and try to attract it to Miami. Now,
since there have been some that have been so voiceful in saying that the straw
ballot question that we had in 1976 was not binding, and we don't have the
right to hear and listen and abide by the will of the majority of the people
and voters of this community, and we have to listen to a minority, or we have
to listen to editorials instead of the voters of this City, since there are
others that are trying to now claim that the people of Miami have changed
their opinions since 1982, I think it is only proper to place this issue on
the ballot again as a Charter amendment and let the people of Miami decide in
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an official Charter amendment to the constitution of this City, if they want
any of their dollars spent on any conferences or conventions that are going to
bring government officials, government officials from Communist countries to
Miami. We talk so much about democracy and the rights that everyone should
have and this is the most democratic way of doing this, putting it on the
ballot in the form of a Charter amendment so that the voters of Miami, the
ones that are going to have to pay through their taxes for any monies that are
given to any conference or conventions, for them to decide if they giant their
tax dollars spent on any conferences or conventions that are going to be
bringing to Miami government officials from Communist countries. I'll open it
for discussion, for anybody to say anything else they like.
Mr. Plummer: If I may, just to clarify the record, Joe, in two points...
Mayor Suarez: Victor, excuse me, Mr. Vice Mayor, after the Vice Mayor speaks,
if you want to address us on your thoughts.
Mr. Plummer: Just to clear the record. When I brought this issue before the
Commission last year, I did it, knowing the sensitivity of the community, and that is why I brought it. I think one of the problems that we had to
understand, I have attended five national Sister City conventions, and out of
the five, two did in fact, have representatives from Communist countries,
three did not. You do not know until registration starts, whether or not they
are going to attend, or they are not, and that is a very difficult question
on any convention that is brought to this community. I assume that most
people have an open registration, and just don't know whether or not they are
going to attend, so I just wanted to make that on the record. As to the
$25,000, Joe, I thought I made it very clear, maybe I didn't, that the reason
that these monies would be expended was because this was going to be a City
sponsored convention. This was not a general run of the mill convention.
This is one that this deeply participates in the program, overall, and that it
would be our convention, our City convention, because of our involvement. I
realize that to bring a convention this size, to spend $25,000 under normal
circumstances would be out of line, and I would agree with that, but this was _
not the normal run, this was a convention which we, the City were going to be
directly responsible for, and just to finally clear the record, of that
$25,000, one of them which traditionally among that convention is an attitude
adjustment hour, which is sponsored by the Commission, and most of that monies
would have been in kind, such as rentals and in -kind services. There was very
little cash involved, so I just want to set the record straight.
Mr. Carollo: Yes, I am glad you did on that..
Mr. Plummer: Oh, and one other thing, Joe, one other thing. I can tell you,
I think without any question whatsoever, that never, ever, has a dollar of
Sister City money, nor the City's money, ever been used for transporting
people here. They have to pay their own way, they have to take and pay their
own expenses, and the Sister City, nor the participating City pay those
expenses. The only the expenses the Sister City pays for is if they bring in
a national leader who is going to be a speaker before the group, that is the
only monies or expenses that they pay. It is just for the record.
Mr. Carollo: One additional major point of clarification, J.L., in line with
what you were saying. At no time, whatsoever, have I, or anyone here, have
said that this convention or any, cannot come to Miami. We have no right to
say that, that would be against the law. That is what Mr. Hiassen tried to
say that was said by us. They have the right to come to Miami anytime they
want, just like anybody else has that right. However, if the majority of this
Commission wanted to listen to the opinion and the will of the majority of the
voters of this City, we also have that right, if we wanted to not to spend
$25,000 in kind or any other way, in bringing this convention to Miami. That
doesn't mean people in the private sector, they themselves could not have
gotten it from other ways to come and Miami, if they wanted to.
Mrs. Kennedy: I want to clarify the record on the previous motion I was
talking to the City Attorney while you were doing the roll call. Let me put
on the record that I think that Carl Hiassen has been very unfair. He has
been unfair with you, Joe, he has been unfair with me and many other... many
of us, but...
Mr. Carollo: Well, we are not talking about being fair now, we are talking
about being factual and not slanderous.
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Mrs. Kennedy: All right, OK, but I think that we should register the
complaint with him individually, and not as a City, so let me retract my vote
and show that as a no vote. As far as putting this on the straw ballot, I
don't know, did we do this already?
Mr. Plums-nr: No, he is talking about a mandate, not a straw.
Mr. Carollo: No, no, this is not a straw ballot.
Mrs. Kennedy: A mandate, OK.
Mr. Carollo: This is a Charter change. This is a Charter change to make this
clear once for all. What we are talking about is a Charter change, so that
the people of Miami, and when there is so much talk by the some of the media
that we have to be democratic, that this is the land of freedom, that we
cannot censor anyone, well I agree with that. I am in full agreement with
that, and this is why I think that we should let the people of Miami, the
voters of Miami, decide for their own, in an official Charter change, if they
want to improve it to the constitution of the City of Miami, or City charter,
if they want any of their taxpayers' monies spent on any conferences or
conventions that are going to bring government officials from Communist
countries to the City of Miami. Now, this in no way is going to affect, like
some are trying to say, all kinds of conventions that come to Miami. It is
not going to affect an A.S.T.A. , it is not going to affect the Miss Universe
Pageant, it is not going to affect hardly any conferences or conventions.
Furthermore, I am frankly a little surprised that we have some that would
write article, after article expressing their point of view, like they have a
right to, in attacking officials that take a strong stance against Communism,
and in their opinion, Communism is something in the past that doesn't exist,
and demand that we give additional rights to Communist officials in coming to
Miami, but they don't demand the same thing of those Communist countries, of
those Communist cities that they so much want to protect here. You know, why
don't some of these same people that have screamed so loud on this, have
demanded that, for instance, conferences, conventions, of Sister Cities in the
future would be held and financed in Moscow, or Peking, or Managua and they
let... that they would let and give the right to American delegates going to
that convention, to express themselves in the same way that we could express
ourselves here in our televisions, radios, newspapers. I think we have a
double standard here that some in our news media... some I say, because not
all, will go out of their way to protect the Soviet Union, Nicaragua,
Communist China, but then when you are talking about doing the same for us, in
having that same freedom of expression in their media and in their countries,
you don't hear a word, just moot silence. I think that kind of double
standard is what brought Rome down at the end.
Mayor Suarez: Victor, do you want to make a statement?
Mr. Victor Azria: My name is Victor Azria, I am co-chairman of the Miami
Sister Cities International Committee. I have been for over five years
chairman of the Miami Ibizda, Spain Sister City Committee. I have been over
five years chairman of the Miami, Nice, France, Sister City Committee, and I
am here today before you representing and on behalf of the 120 members of the
Miami Sister Cities International Committee, who have worked very hard on this
project, and many more concerned citizens of Miami. Before my presentation, I
would like to make a brief personal statement to Commissioner Joe Carollo.
Commissioner, I would like you to be assured that I have a lot of respect for
your political ideology, and I am not here to engage in a political
discussion, because I am not a politician to start with, but I am here to
inform you that Sister Cities International has been created to promote good
will and understanding throughout the world as a road to peace by means of
people to people contact. By the way, the chairman, the overall chairman of
Sister Cities International is our President, Ronald Reagan. When Mr. Carollo
first expressed his views to the media, which triggered an immediate reaction
from the board of directors in Washington... I was out of town. If I had been
here, I think I could have avoided the decision to move the convention
somewhere else, but I have news for you, which is no older than about an hour,
an hour and one-half ago. I had a phone call from Washington. It was too
late when I came back. I have been authorized by the members of the Miami
Sister Cities International Committee and all the people who expressed their
concerns to me about the subject matter, to address to all of you on their
behalf, therefore, I have to tell you that we have been distressed by the
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recent loss of this wonderful opportunity to expose the positive aspects of
Miami on a worldwide scale. We would like to commend Commission J.L. Plummer,
who has used all his most convincing skills to obtain from the Sister Cities
International board of directors in Washington to elect Miami host of the 1988
Sister Cities International Conference. It is a privilege. There are
hundreds of cities that would love to have this opportunity, and I thank Vice
Mayor J.L. Plummer on behalf of the entire committee. You should have in
front of you Mrs. Godoy was supposed to distribute a list of the members of
our committee, and you will see that it is made up of very prominent business
leaders and people from all , and it is very representative of the
City of Miami. The main reason for my appearance before you today is to
inform you that I feel that I may be able to get the board of directors of
Sister Cities International in Washington to reverse their decision. We have
already been assured of the support of almost all the business media and
social leaders of this community, and now we need yours unanimously. I was
waiting here since 3:00 o'clock, and at 3:22 p.m., I have been called back
here, and I had a call from Washington. This call came from the president of
Sister Cities International, Mr. Richard Neuheiser. I have been on the phone
for two days begging them to reverse their decision. I was prepared to make
my presentation, but I have to read you the contents of my conversation with
the president of S.C.I. President Neuheiser has declared to Mr. Schultz, Ray
Schultz, this morning, and repeated to me this afternoon, I quote:
"We are in the business of making friends and we want to remain
friends with the City of Miami. In the event of a successful vote
of the City of Miami Commission this afternoon, Sister Cities
International will reevaluate their decision of moving the
conference out of Miami. The president of Sister Cities
International is willing to put the decision back to the board of
directors made of 21 members. President Neuhauser has also
expressed the wish to come to Miami with the executive director of
Sister Cities International, Mr. Tom Dibbens, and meet with all of
your Commissioners and the Honorable Mayor Suarez and sit down and
discuss with you."
I think it is a big privilege. He doesn't have to do that. Since they moved
out this conference from Miami, I can assure you that there are at least a
dozen cities that have already applied to take our place. Now, large
conventions, small conference, as far as the number of dollars concerned, we
have our numbers, you have yours, we are not going to discuss that now. What
we see here is the most beautiful opportunity for the City of Miami, who God
knows, suffers so a bad an image worldwide, to show the world that we also are
capable of good will and understanding. Now, about Communism, Mr. Carollo.
The Sister Cities International Conference last year was held in Los Angeles.
It is going to be in Fort Worth, Texas, this July, 1987. Last year, in Los
Angeles, out of about 1,500 visitors were... I mean, the amount of Communist
countries representatives were four Chinese from the Republic of China; three
from the City of Ben , there were three individuals with a deputy mayor;
three Soviets, members of what they called the Association of Relations
between Soviets and Foreign Cities.
Mayor Suarez: If that is like the Vice Mayor, we don't care about that.
Mr. Carollo: That is like another arm of the KGB, I understand.
Mr. Azria: Maybe. There are two, we can handle them, Commissioner, believe
me, and two Yugoslavians. Now, I have been always thought to listen to the
wise man, and thank God we have a wise man sitting here, reading his paper,
and I am talking about my friend, Mr. Miller Dawkins, and of all what I have
read, the newspaper and I have heard...
Mrs. Kennedy: Excuse me, correction, please - wise person!
Mr. Azria: Wise person, I'm sorry.
Mayor Suarez: He's that, too.
Mr. Carollo: Well, he is still a man, so he is still correct.
Mr. Azria: I was talking about Mr. Dawkins.
Ms. Kennedy: Still, wise person applies.
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Mr. Azria: Regarding the controversy read by the statement made by Mr.
Carollo, the only, I mean, the most intelligent statement that I've seen was
made by Mr. Dawkins, who declared to the Miami Herald, that if there are a few
Communist delegates to show up in Miami in the 1988 Sister Cities Conference,
so what. Let's show them our America is beautiful, how beautiful is America.
Then, they may find out that our system is better than theirs. I don't think
that six or seven Communists out of 1,500 delegates in a conference that is
going to have an exposure like this one, I don't think it is an issue that
should be blown out of proportion like it has been in these last days.
Mr. Carollo: Well, Victor, number one, you have no assurance that there is
going to be 1,500 delegates. All that we were asked from the beginning was to
assure 400 rooms, no more than that. Secondly of all, you have no assurance
how many official government;.al representatives of the governments of
Nicaragua, Soviet Union, Communist China, and others, are going to be coming,
or not coming. Furthermore, the whole point is this, that no one has said, no
one can stop you from bringing this convention from Miami or not. All that
was discussed, whether we should go ahead and give the $25,000 or not. That
is the only thing that they questioned, and let's not kid ourselves. There is
nothing else that we had been discussing at all.
Mr. Azria: For five years I have been involved with the Sister City Program,
as you may know, and I lead a delegation to Spain and a delegation to France,
and then we hosted our Spanish Sister City, and the France Sister City and I
can tell you that, I think Miss Charlotte Gallogly, at that time, director of
the Office of Community Development has tried to evaluate what it would have
cost to the City, if the City had to pay what I have raised from the private
sector, to greet the Mayor of Nice, and Commissioner Dawkins , it
amounted to about $100,000. It didn't cost one cent to the City of Miami.
When we went to France, and Commissioner Miller Dawkins was there too, we...
Mr. Carollo: But, Victor, we appreciate all that, but what does that have to
do with the subject we are discussing? I mean, I think we should do
everything possible to have Sister Cities in countries that are friends and
allies. I am all for that, I think it is fabulous.
Mr. Azria: But, Sister City has been created by our President, Dwight
Eisenhower in 1956 and the headquarters are in Washington, and we are
privileged to have this conference in the United States.
Mr. Carollo: If President Eisenhower would be alive today, I don't think a
lot of the things that have happened in our country would he have been in
favor of, and certainly not some of the latest things that have happened with
the Soviet Union and Communist China in our embassies.
Mrs. Kennedy: But see, Joe, I wondered if we had explained, and you're just
to the point that I was about to make, if the voters had been explained what
the Sister Cities convention is, sure we have Communist countries, but it is
an organization that was created by the late President Eisenhower, whose
honorary chairperson is President Reagan, and if they would have been fully
explained, I just wonder how they would have voted. I doubt they would have
voted the way they did.
Mr. Carollo: I will tell you something, Rosario. You could try to you know,
dance a Tango, one foot forward, two back, all you like, but you could explain
that to voters and explain to them delegates that are officials of Communist
countries like Nicaragua and the Soviet Union, etc. coming to Miami, and they
are going to vote the same way, let's not kid ourselves. If you feel that is
the case, that's all I am saying, let's have it the democratic way and let's
put it up to an election. This way people can express one point of view, or
the other, and the voters of Miami can decide. I am in agreement with you.
You know, let's have that out in the open.
Mrs. Kennedy: I don't know about the dancing forward. In a controversial
issue, I have been known always to explain the way I vote, and why I do it
that way, and...
Mt. Azria: Let me tell you my concerns. First, you know I am a private
businessman. I have been spending all afternoon here, it cost me a lot of
money, really, and a lot of energy. I admire you, because I am exhausted. I
mean, you guys up there, I don't know how you can...
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Mayor Suarez: Just looking at this whole thing here exhausts him. Can you
imagine being in it?
Mr. Azria: I swear, I am exhausted. I am exhausted. I admire you, really, I
respect you a lot, and you are not even paid for that, which is wonderful.
Mayor Suarez: We are pretty exhausted looking at you too.
Mr. Azria: I am tired, that is what I am saying, I am exhausted. That is why
I have a lot of respect for you guys, I mean you... what I am trying... see,
where I feel very strong is that on one side, I meet with 120 voters, or Miami
citizens, and they work for free, and they come to the meetings, and you saw
the meetings, and they are all very enthusiastic, and I called yesterday Woody
Weiser, I told him, I need a room for a big meeting, he gives me the Grand Bay
Hotel for free. The ballroom costs ...
Mayor Suarez: Victor, what do you want us to do? What are you asking the
Commission to do?
Mr. Azria: I have three resolutions that I would like you to consider.
Mayor Suarez: Remember, we are on record as of now, of having supported and
being in favor of the Sister Cities convention. There was a vote taken, I
believe, sometime last year. Nothing has changed since then. Do you need
anything else from us?
Mr. Azria: I need something to reassure the president of S.C.I., that Miami
wouldn't do any problem to the conference, should the conference should the
board in Washington.....
Mayor Suarez: And no governmental monies to be used, you can raise the money
from the private sector?
Mr. Azria: I will definetely I always did that.
Mayor Suarez: That is fine.
Mr. Azria: I always did that.
Mr. Dawkins: Wait a minute, Joe already said he has got no problems with them
coming.
Mayor Suarez: Do you want a resolution to that effect?
Mr. Carollo: Yes, we cannot stop you from coming. Now, the only thing...
Mr. Azria: Excuse me, I need a resolution now, because of the controversy
that we have had. Have you noticed how fast and...
Mr. Carollo: The only thing that I would like to get on the record, is the
following, and I think it is a question that should be answered. If you think
that you are going to bring some government official of Nicaragua coming to
Miami...
Mr. Azria: No, they won't come.
Mr. Carollo: Well, you say they won't come. OK, then if they won't come,
then let's put that on the resolution that they won't come. Do what A.S.T.A.
did to Cuba and dis-invite them.
Mr. Azria: It goes against the philosophy, it goes against the philosophy of
Sister Cities.
Mr. Carollo: Oh, sure, it goes against your philosophy, your friendship, good
will and peace, that there is none in Nicaragua, there is none in the Soviet
Union, or any of those Communist countries. They don't have elections in
those countries.
Mayor Suarez: Don't argue with him.
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Mr. Dawkins: I agree with everything that has been said. I agree with Joe, I
agree with Rosario, and I agree with Victor.
Mr. Carollo: I even agree with you.
Mr. Dawkins: This is the United States of America, OK? Anybody who wants to
come here should be able to come and anybody who wants to demonstrate should
be able to demonstrate.
Mr. Carollo: Absolutely.
Mr. Dawkins: That is the first, that is the American way! So, what is our
problem?
Mayor Suarez: So you need a resolution?
Mr. Dawkins: And I will go, if you need a resolution, I'll pass that
resolution right now that whoever the Sister City brings has a right to come,
and I'll also put in that same resolution that anybody who wants to peacefully
demonstrate against it has the right to demonstrate.
Mrs. Kennedy: Right.
Mr. Carollo: Now, if I may, freedom is not the issue at hand, because those
are freedoms that we have in this country.
Mayor Suarez: Wait, wait, Commissioner, just from your perspective, is that
resolution acceptable?
Mr. Azria: I have presented to you, you have in front of you three
resolutions.
Mr. Dawkins: OK, present what you want then, because I am like you, I am
exhausted.
Mr. Carollo: Miller, can I make a statement before he gets to what he wants?
Mayor Suarez: Yes, Commissioner. Wait, Victor. Commissioners take
precedent. Commissioner Carollo.
Mr. Carollo: You know, to vote for a resolution like that Miller, there is no
need. These are the basic freedoms that we have in this country. I mean, it
doesn't make any sense, to vote on the basic freedoms that we all have. Now,
I think that the two areas that do need to be answered and looked upon by this
Commission are the following: One is if this Commission wants to go against
the will expressed by the majority of these citizens of the City of Miami that
voted in 1982, and go ahead and give $25,000 to this convention that is going
to be bringing Communists officials. Second of all, there is no question I
don't think in anybody's mind, if you are so naive to think that people who
live here that have lost family members, killed by Communists, others thrown
in jail and so on, are not going to express their same constitutional rights
that everyone has, and demonstrate against the presence of those people, you
are kidding yourselves!
Mr. Azria: Commissioner...
Mr. Carollo: You are going to have fun, Victor.
Mr. Azria: Commissioner, my background is...
Mr. Carollo: You are going to have people demonstrating.
Mayor Suarez: He didn't... you didn't disagree with that. That's... you
didn't even address that point.
Mr. Carollo: You are going to have people demonstrating. I just gave you
the figures that the Police Department gave me of what it costs for one day
extra police in overtime in a demonstration that had about 2,000 to 2,500
people. It costs $80,000, overtime alone, not including what City of Miami
had to pay for regular officers that were pulled from other areas. Three days
of this, conservatively looking at it, very conservatively, just in overtime
alone is going to cost $250,000. Now, my question is, is the State that
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sponsored this, willing to help in paying for law enforcement in this
community?
Mr. Dawkins: Number one, Victor, did you say you would raise the $25,000 from
the private sector?
Mr. Azria: We need more than $25,000. We need between $100,000 and $150,000.
Last meeting we had...
Mrs. Kennedy: In other words, are you asking this Commission for the $25,000
and you will raise the difference?
Mr. Azria: That was a contribution of the City, that is all.
Mrs. Kennedy: Pardon:
Mr. Azria: It was a minor contribution of the City to the overall budget.
Mr. Kennedy: Right, but, I am saying, the difference you will raise?
Mr. Azria: Definitely.
Mrs. Kennedy: That part of it.
Mr. Dawkins: Well, I know we are going to have demonstrations, but I think
that the citizens...
Mr. Azria: We have demonstrations if we talk to...
Mr. Dawkins: I think that the citizens of Miami are good Americans, and they
will demonstrate peacefully...
Mr. Carollo: No one is saying otherwise, Miller.
Mr. Dawkins: ... because I know good and well that, and I want them to come,
that somebody is going to come from South Africa and I'm going to be out there
to protest and tell them what I think of their policies in South Africa, but
we're going to do it peacefully, in the American way so that he can see that
at least in America we do demonstrate against things we dislike and,
therefore, you go back and let people in your country do it like - do it our
way.
Mr. Azria: Commissioner Dawkins, I see...
Mayor Suarez: I thought - wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, Victor, because we're
going to go at this forever. I thought you said you could do this with
private funds. You didn't need the City's money; you just needed a resolution
from us reaffirming our request of the...
Ms. Kennedy: Yes, but it's more than that.
Mr. Azria: I didn't need it - I see - before - before it was moved out of
Miami, we didn't need it.
Mayor Suarez: If not, we're going to phrase the resolution that way any how,
because I guarantee the $25,000 can be obtained out there.
Mr. Azria: No, let me tell you what happened this afternoon. Mayor, Mayor,
let me tell you what happened this afternoon. This is the problem, is that,
since it has been moved out of Miami because of the controversy and all...
Mayor Suarez: Right - right - right.
Mr. Azria: ... the ---- that we've seen in the paper and on the radio and
everything...
Mayor Suarez: Yes, we know. We know about that.
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Mayor Suarez: Right.
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Mr. Azria: ...Sister City International in Washington, they say, you have to
assure me that the government of the City of Miami is willing to host this
conference. Otherwise, we've got...
Mayor Suarez: Okay, we'll give you a resolution to that effect. Do you need
the money too?
Mr. Azria: We need the money. I mean - we need - it would help.
Mayor Suarez: I thought you were willing to raise it from the private sector.
Mr. Azria: We can raise - we can raise the, the other part, but ... the
$25,000 that the City had voted, I mean, we could help a lot. There is no
doubt about it. And we need also, what we need...
Mayor Suarez: But you can do it without the $25,000 from the City. And you
think that they will accept that.
Mr. Azria: Without the $25,000?
Mayor Suarez: Right. That's what you told me a few minutes ago.
Mr. Plummer: No, no, no. Wait, wait. So there's no misunderstanding. If,
in fact, the City does withdraw its offer of the $25,000, then this private
group will have to guarantee the $25,000. Okay?
Mr. Azria: They can't guarantee.
Mr. Plummer: That is a predicate set by the board of directors that the
$25,000 is what is required; in -kind services and things of that nature, you
know, and we'll just maybe forego the Mayor's cocktail party or the
Commission's party.
Mayor Suarez: That's right.
Mr. Plummer: And that's the way you do.
Mayor Suarez: Been drinking too much anyhow.
Mr. Azria: And as, as, as, Commissioner Plummer...
Mr. Plummer: Victor, let me suggest something to you. I think at this
particular point, I admire you for standing up here, really, and taking this
stand because I think you're representing a hundred and twenty people who have
devoted a lot of time and a lot of effort and a lot of boring meetings, that
you've kept very active. I think that this Commission, at the best right now,
out of the three that so called resolutions that have been put in front of me
, I think the only thing that the Sister City really wants to hear is one of
the resolutions at this time.
Mr. Azria: Okay.
Mr. Plummer: And that resolution stated here, and I don't know that you can
get a unanimous vote, is a resolution whereby the City of Miami welcomes the
31st Sister City International Annual Conference to Miami in July, 188. I
don't think that the $25,000 is going to pass. I don't think the one in
reference to Virginia Godoy because that's in -kind services is going to pass
at this particular point. If we don't change the mind of the board of
directors, it's null and void. It's not even a contention, okay? Now,
whether or not my colleagues feel that it is necessary to pass such a
resolution to welcome them here, I think that's the only thing, really, that
they want to hear right now Because, at this point, they don't feel welcome.
Mr. Azria: It became necessary since the controversy. This resolution is
absolutely needed now. If we want the conference back. If we don't want the
conference back, we just.... but, if we want the conference back all what I
need is a resolution whereby the City Commission appoints... I mean welcome
the conference.
Mayor Suarez: That's what he just said.
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Mr. Azria: Yes.
Ms. Kennedy: Mr. board of directors member.
Mr. Plummer: Excuse me?
Ms. Kennedy: Mr. board of directors member.
Mr. Plummer: No, I you know, hey, Rosario, I've reached a point, I've got to
tell you, my frustration level has been reached.
Mr. Azria: You should see this, I...
Mr. Plummer: You know, I have to be very, very honest with you. I came here
with all honesty and all sincerity to this Commission realizing the
sensitivity in the community. That's why I brought it here in the first
place, okay? I wasn't trying to hide a thing.
Mr. Carollo: No, no one has ever said anything to the contrary, J. L., you've
acted very honorably.
Mr. Plummer: No, I - Joe, I understand that. But...
Mr. Azria: In case - in cases like this one, we should see more enthusiasm
from the City government than from the private sector and I...
Mayor Suarez: Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. No more arguments. No more
arguments. The time comes for voting and deciding.
Mr. Azria: Okay.
Mayor Suarez: I'll entertain a motion for any of these resolutions, including
the one you just read.
Mr. Carollo: Well, I, I had...
Mayor Suarez: I'm sorry, do you have a motion?
Mr. Carollo: ... before Victor brought this up. John - excuse me. I had
asked that we do this the way it's done in democratic countries. Let the
people decide what they want to do in the future. In fact, we could make it
in such a way that if the Commission wants to approve anything for this
particular conference, it won't affect whatever actions we do now. But, at
least to set the policy that is to be followed in the future. I thought that
policy was set, but now I'm told that it's not valid because it wasn't an
official binding vote. So what I am asking for is, since everyone speaks 'so
much about freedom, democracy, liberty, let's just do that.
Mayor Suarez: Do you want to move to have hearings on it or do you want to
move...
Mr. Carollo: No, no, no. All that I'm saying is in the resolution, that we
place the same question that was placed to voters in the past relating only to
government officials from communist countries coming to Miami, whether the
people, voters of the City of Miami, want their monies spent in conventions or
conference, that will bring to Miami government officials from communist
countries.
Mayor Suarez: Well...
Ms. Kennedy: But, you see...
Mayor Suarez: If you...
Mr. Dawkins: Well, let that's a straw ballot....
Mayor Suarez: Right.
Mr. Dawkins: ... and I' 11 vote it and I'm not going to be going with that,
I'm...
Mr. Azria: Commissioner Dawkins, South Africa is not a member of SCI.
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Mr. Dawkins: Beg your pardon?
Mr. Azria: South Africa is not a member of South....
Mayor Suarez: Right.
Mr. Carollo: Lethoso. It certainly is and it is under their control.
Lethoso. I'll get a map and show it to you.
Mr. Azria: It's not a member. I got a list. No...
Mr. Dawkins: I didn't...
Mayor Suarez: I thought I read in the Miami News that it was not. But,
anyhow...
Mr. Carollo: Lethoso. Lethos is completely under South African control.
Mr. Azria: It's not. I have it here.
Mr. Dawkins: I just was telling you who I was... who I'd be against, that's
all.
Mr. Azria: And then...
Ms. Kennedy: You see...
Mayor Suarez: Okay. I would be against, because what you're... you're not
saying that you want to have hearings on it, so we can consider the
implications of that. You're saying right now that you want us to vote in
favor of that and I would vote against it. I wouldn't mind having hearings
to...
Ms. Kennedy: You see, the problem...
Mr. Azria: Well, let me, let me... may I tell you we work, we invite... we
invite people... if we...
Mayor Suarez: What, that, that... we don't need to know, know...
Ms. Kennedy: Victor, one second, Victor.
Mayor Suarez: No, Victor, Victor, you're not voting on this one.
Ms. Kennedy: The problem, Victor...
Mr. Azria: No, I'm not voting, but let me tell you how the process...
Mayor Suarez: No - no. You're going to make it worse, please.
Ms. Kennedy: The problem I have with that is that I've been working very hard
to bring the Olympic Festival to Miami. We're talking about 1990 or 1993,
with the manager, the county manager, a bunch of other folks involved...
Mr. Carollo: That's sports, Commissioner...
Ms. Kennedy: That would also...
Mr. Carollo: ... that's why I've made it in the way that I have - official...
Ms. Kennedy: So that...
Mr. Carollo: ... government officials.
Ms. Kennedy: That will be affected also then.
Mr. Carollo: No, how can it?
Ms. Kennedy: Because I'm sure you'll get some government officials...
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Mr. Carollo: ... you know the Olympic people that will be coming are supposed
to be regular citizens. They will be involved in sports. We're discussing
governmental officials only, and that's what will be put to a vote.
Government officials.
Ma;ror Suarez: Very - very difficult to determine because they have advisors
and people accompanying the athletes. We'd have to test them to see if they
were really athletes or government officials. Anyhow, that's the motion. No,
Victor, we're not going to hear from you anymore. I'm going to have to ask
you pretty soon to sit down, please. We've got to... you're a helluva nice
guy, but...
Mr. Plummer: What is the motion?
Mayor Suarez: The motion is to build that straw ballot question that was put
on... that was voted on by referendum as a City ordinance, I guess, by charter
amendment.
Mr. Carollo: No, no. This is a City charter amendment...
Mayor Suarez: Oh, I'm sorry. By City charter amendment, that would
prohibit...
Mr. Carollo: Yes, that this will set the policy without any more questions,
any more doubts, but is going to refer strictly to government officials from
communist countries.
Mayor Suarez: That's the motion.
Mr. Plummer: And that would be that there would be no City subsidy.
Mr. Carollo: Money spent. Now this is not going to have anything to do with
conventions like ASTA, other international sporting events...
Mr. Plummer: Well, okay.
Ms. Kennedy: How about IDB?
Mr. Carollo: ...Universe Pageants or anything else.
Mr. Plummer: Right. Joe, let me ask this question just for clarification.
What happens at the last minute at ASTA if hypothetically a Russian government
official came to that convention?
Mr. Carollo: Well, J. L., to begin with...
Mr. Plummer: You don't know, that's the problem.
Mayor Suarez: They're - they're travel agents...
Mr. Carollo: Hold on, to begin with, the only way...
Mayor Suarez: ...or government officials.
Mr. Carollo: ... that people can participate in the ASTA convention is if
they are legitimate individual that is involved in tourism. And, and, and,
that's the official way...
Mr. Plummer: So you have the minister of tourism of Russia. You know, I...
Mr. Carollo: ... that's the official way that you can participate. But,
unofficially...
Mr. Plummer: See, the...
Ms. Kennedy: And you really see, you really don't know until the last minute.
Mr. Plummer: See, that, that's the problem, Joe.
Mr. Carollo: ... we can't help that if they want to come down. Unofficially,
no - no.
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Mr. Plummer: Okay, you don't know until the last minute - or not the last
minute -
Ms. Kennedy: Well, yes, but...
Mr. Plummer: ... but you don't know until you start registration, who's going
to attend.
Mr. Carollo: No, you... no, you certainly do. You certainly do, like we did
with ASTA in 182.
Mr. Azria: Can I say off record?
Mayor Suarez: No. It's us now, Victor.
Mr. Azria: Nothing? Okay.
Mayor Suarez: And you don't know at all if they're government officials, even
after they are here.
Mr. Azria: No, no, but it works by invitation. And so you can invite who
ever you want to. You don't invite who you don't want to. And that... that's
off record. I wouldn't say that...
Mayor Suarez: Right. They get the message if you don't want them. I
understand what you're saying.
Mr. Carollo: See, all that I'm saying, J. L., is, hey, let's quit beating
around the bush. There are some, you know, and I am here to do what the
voters of Miami want, not what some columnist might want, what an editorial
writer might want, or what some talk show host in a radio station might want.
Mayor Suarez: Particularly not that.
Mr. Carollo: I'm here to do what the voters of Miami want...
Mr. Plummer: Well, Joe, look, let me say my piece very quickly. I have no
problem of putting a referendum to the people, mandated referendum of this
City Commis•^ion, do you want in the future to have any subsidy of City
taxpayers' dollars, if it is a government official of a communist country.
You want to put that to a referendum? I'll second your motion. I have no
problem with that. Let the people of this community speak, okay?
Mr. Carollo: That's all we're trying to do, J. L.
Mr. Plummer: They want to speak to an issue, they can turn it down...
Mr. Carollo: That's all we're trying to do.
Mr. Plummer: ... or not.
Mr. Carollo: That's all we're trying to do.
Mr. Plummer: But, I don't think that addresses the issue that we have before
us, okay? I do see some problems in making that determination.
Mr. Carollo: Well, you could take this up, you know, differently. And, in
fact, like I said so that people could feel the freedom to act upon this
without worrying and what's going to happen with that charter change when it
goes to a vote. We could make it in such a way that it would not be binding
on any previous decisions made by the Commission prior to that.
Mr. Plummer: Well, I guess really what's before us right now, if I
understand, and I'm not sure that I do - is whether or not, without public
subsidy, without taxpayers' dollars, do we welcome the Sister City Convention
in July 188 or we don't. Now, that's really where we are.
Mayor Suarez: Well, that's another motion. We have a pending motion without
a second on a whole different issue.
Mr. Plummer: What's - the other motion is to go...
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Mayor Suarez: To do with a charter amendment that would prohibit the City to
spend any monies to sponsor any conventions or government officials from
communist countries would be coming.
Mr. Plummer: You mean, a referendum to let these people speak on the issue?
Mayor Suarez: Yes.
Mr. Carollo: That's all that it is.
Mr. Plummer: I have no problem with that at all. I've never.
Mr. Carollo: I'm not asking anyone to support it...
Mr. Plummer: No, no, no.
Mr. Carollo: ...or not support it. I'm just asking this Commission to let
the people of Miami...
Mr. Plummer: Are you looking for a second?
Mr. Carollo: Yes, I am.
Mr. Plummer: You have a second.
Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded.
Mr. Plummer: Now, I want to go back, before that matter comes for a final
vote before this Commission.
Mr. Carollo: Well, it has to come back. Of course, he has to come back
before us.
Mr. Plummer: Yes, but I think there are some areas that have got to be
addressed in it for clarification.
Mr. Carollo: I agree.
Mayor Suarez: Well, that's why...
Mr. Plummer: But, to let the people of this community speak on any issue, I
have no problem.
Mayor Suarez: Wait - that's why I said I would vote in favor of a motion to
hold hearings on the issue so we can clarify what we mean by all of this but I
will not vote in favor of a motion as stated.
Mr. Plummer: Oh, very definitely. Sure.
Mr. Carollo: Well. Commissioners, Mayor, we have to bring this up again
anyway because, by law, we could not make the official vote of this the final,
should I say, official vote, until certain time before the election. Just
like some other charter changes that we agreed to place on the ballot.
Mayor Suarez: If you... if you want to just...
Mr. Carollo: ... they have to come back.
Mayor Suarez: For my vote, if you want to... if you want my vote, you'd have
to say that the motion was simply to have hearings on the possibility of a
charter amendment to delve into this whole issue of who we invite and who we
don't invite. But, that motion as drafted, I have to vote against.
Mr. Plummer: Well, my understanding is it's a motion to ask the City attorney
to draw up the basic the basic ordinance - the basic ordinance?
Ms. Dougherty: Resolution.
Mr. Plummer: Resolution, to present to this Commission for public hearings.
You've got to go through public hearings on the thing. No question.
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Mr. Carollo: As far as...
Mr. Plummer: I, I second the motion.
Mr. Carollo: ... any clarification that would need to be done before it goes
to...
Mr. Plummer: It could be done on two hearings.
Mr. Carollo: ... the vote. I have no problems to do it in one public
hearing, you know. And any one that wants to come, let them come and express
their point of view.
Mr. Plummer: Excuse me, Joe. We have always, the precedent in the past has
to been two public hearings and I would ask that that be done.
Mr. Carollo: I have no problems with that. None, whatsoever.
Mr. Plummer: I would also reserve the right to vote against in the final
analysis. But I'm not saying that now.
Mr. Carollo: Every Commissioner always has that right.
Ms. Kennedy: As usual, let me, yes, as usual let me explain the rationale of
my voting against the motion.
Mr. Plummer: If you all don't call a vote in a hurry, I'm going to burst.
Ms. Kennedy: Basically - what's that?
Mr. Plummer: If you don't call a vote in a hurry I'm going to burst.
Ms. Kennedy: It's just... let me just say, it's a matter of principle. I
campaigned on the issue that I would focus on the local politics and not on
foreign policy and that's it.
Mr. Carollo: Well, this has got nothing to do with foreign policy,
Commissioner. This has got to do just with what you're saying, local issues
of how the people of the City feel about an issue that affects their
pocketbooks, their monies, how it's going to be spent. Not how it's going to
be spent in the Soviet Union or China or anywhere else. Here in Miami.
Mr. Dawkins: We've had a referendum. The people spoke.
Mr. Carollo: We don't want to listen to the people.
Mr. Dawkins: But...
Mayor Suarez: Wait, wait, Commissioner.
Mr. Dawkins: So I have no problems with going through this, whatever it is,
and reserve the right, that if I don't like what the City attorney draw up,
I'll vote against it. I don't think we should be dealing in a referendum when
the people have already spoke once. I don't see why we got to go back to them
again for, but if that's the will of the majority of this Commission, so be
it.
Mr. Carollo: Commissioner, let me just briefly explain to you why. The
difference was... the other was a straw question in where people expressed
their opinion. Now, since so many people are trying to say that we should not
listen to that, that the people that change their minds, then what I'm saying
is that they do deserve a right to be heard again, so that it - they could
vote upon something that would be binding and be part of the constitution of
this City that could only be changed by another election.
Mr. Dawkins: But - I agree with you, Joe, but the only thing... the only
problem I got with this whole thing is, telling somebody they can't come.
That's the only problem.
Mr. Carollo: We're not going to be telling anybody that, no, no, no, no.
Mr. Dawkins: Yes, we are, we telling...
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Mr. Carollo: This has got nothing to do with telling anybody they can't come.
It's got only to do with whether we're going to spend City monies or not in
certain conventions or conferences. Nothing whatsoever to do whether we're
telling people they could come or not come. And this is the whole point I was
trying to make today. It's got nothing to do with that. Anybody that wants
to come here, they have the right, according to the law of the land to come to
Miami - to come anywhere in this country. Not the same right that we have to
go to communist countries.
Mr. Azria: Commissioners, we are inviting ... we are inviting ... we
invite... we are...
Mayor Suarez: We haven't... we haven't gotten to your motion yet, Victor.
I'm sorry, that we've got a motion on the floor. And I... again, I'm going to
intend to vote against it. There may be a situation where someone could
propose a charter amendment that would say that if it was clear to the City
Commissioners and the administration that someone was coming here with... in
an effort to spy or overthrow our government or otherwise to create problems
for our democracy, that I might vote for such a charter amendment. Even then,
I don't think I would because I'd just as soon have the Commission make those
decisions. I don't think it has to be put into the charter. But, your
motion, Commissioner, to clarify is not to hold hearings, your motion is to
hold - to hold hearings but you have - you have built into your motion that
the purpose of the hearings is to put in the charter amendment the prohibition
against spending money to invite conventions where...
Mr. Carollo: Mr. Mayor, those...
Mayor Suarez: ... government officials from communist countries would come.
Is that right?
Mr. Carollo: That was so clear before when you said if we would hold public
hearings so you would vote for it. Now...
Mayor Suarez: No, no, I said I would vote for public hearings on this whole
question...
Mr. Carollo: ... with public hearings.
Mayor Suarez: ... but not public hearings if your purpose at the end of the
public hearings is to have a charter amendment that...
Mr. Carollo: Mr. Mayor, Mr. Mayor...
Mayor Suarez: ... says what your's says.
Mr. Carollo: ... you could vote against it.
Mr. Dawkins: It cannot...
Mayor Suarez: ... that's all I'm telling you, that's why I want a
clarification. If you want me to vote...
Mr. Carollo: If it comes down to the wire, I'll tell you one thing, I'm going
to go out and get the signatures and put it on the ballot - getting the
signatures.
Mayor Suarez: Fine.
Mr. Dawkins: Okay - well. No, hold it now. Wait.
Mr. Carollo: Now, all that we're doing is saying what you wanted - have the
public hearings. Let's discuss it.
ldr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Suarez: Yes.
Mr. Plummer: ... and my colleagues. In the history of my being on this
Commission, I can tell you that I don't think there's ever been a proposed
charter amendment that, in public hearings, hasn't been changed, modified,
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altered, or in any way went to the voters in the same way that it was
originally proposed. I don't agree with my old colleague too often, your
former predecessor, but he did have, in fact, a saying that I did feel was
right. The art of politics is compromise. We see it every day in all kinds
of government. I have, and I will reiterate, I have no problem ever
proffering to the people of this community an important subject for them to
speak on. I have no problem with that. I think we must prepare it in a
proper form. That it is not illegal, immoral, or fattening. And then we
present it to the public for them to vote upon. But, I don't think that in
any way, shape, or form any motion made here today is necessarily that which
is going to be offered to the public. It might be, but we won't know that
without two public hearings.
Mayor Suarez: Any further discussion? Call the roll.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Carollo, who moved
its adoption:
MOTION NO. 87-470
A MOTION INSTRUCTING THE CITY ATTORNEY TO PREPARE A
RESOLUTION FOR DISCUSSION AT TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS IN
CONNECTION WITH A PROPOSED CHARTER AMENDMENT REFERENDUM:
"SHOULD THE CITY OF MIAMI SUBSIDIZE GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS
FROM COMMUNIST COUNTRIES COMING TO MIAMI FOR CONVENTIONS?"
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
NOES: Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
ABSENT: None.
DURING ROLL CALL:
Mr. Dawkins: I'm voting yes to see what it is, and that's no guarantee that I
will vote to put it on the ballot.
Mr. Plummer: Well, just for the record. I think we all, including
Commissioner Carollo, reserve that right at any time.
Mayor Suarez: What was that? I'm sorry.
Mr. Carollo: We always reserve that right.
Mr. Plummer: I say, based on Commissioner Dawkins' comments, that he might
not vote for it in the final analysis, I just put on the record, that we all
reserve that right, including Commissioner Carollo, to vote against it at the
last...
Mr. Carollo: Just like some that voted no, reserve the right to vote yes in
the future.
Mayor Suarez: Yes, there are some charter amendments that I might vote for
that have to do with people that would pose a problem for our national
security and so on. But, I thought you built into it a specific thrust of the
charter amendment. Victor, now - does anybody want to move the resolution to
welcome Sister Cities Convention to Miami?
Mr. Dawkins: So moved so we can go home.
Mayor Suarez: Moved.
Mr. Dawkins: We can vote it up or down so we can go.
Mayor Suarez: Do we have a second?
Ms. Kennedy: Second.
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Mayor Suarez: Seconded. Any discussion? Call the roll.
Mr. Plummer: Well, wait, wait, wait a minute. Under discussion now.
Mayor Suarez: That's the one you've got, right there in front of you.
Mr. Plummer: Okay. Victor, I hope you understand what this motion really
means what it's not saying. That if this is successful, this Commission is
going to basically look to you to raise the money in the private sector. So I
want that understood. I don't want any misunderstanding.
Mr. Azria: I understand now. We just voted on the first resolution... for -
on...
Mr. Plummer: Well, that's this one here...
Mr. Azria: ...only.
Mr. Plummer: To welcome them here - period.
Mr. Azria: Okay.
Mr. Plummer: Okay? I want you to understand what that means.
Mr. Azria: Okay.
Mr. Plummer: That's fine.
Mayor Suarez: Any further discussion?
Mr. Plummer: No.
Mayor Suarez: Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Dawkins, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 87-471
A RESOLUTION WHEREBY THE CITY OF MIAMI WELCOMES THE
31ST SISTER CITIES INTERNATIONAL ANNUAL CONFERENCE TO
MIAMI, FLORIDA, IN JULY 1988
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Kennedy, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
ABSENT: None.
DURING ROLL CALL:
Mr. Carollo: I'm all in favor of welcoming our friends and allies and
welcoming other peoples from our countries.
Mr. Azria: You're invited to be...
Mayor Suarez: No, no, no.
Mr. Carollo: But, there's no way that I am going to vote to welcome in a
welcoming that is going to include government officials from communist China
that have had in their hands, the blood of between 50 and 85 million Chinese,
government officials from the Soviet Union that have in their hands the blood
of between 20 to 35 million people. There's no way in the world that I'm
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going to vote to welcome government officials in Nicaragua that have murdered
and are murdering hundred of their own people or any other communist official
from any communist country that have vowed to destroy our way of life in our
country. I am only favoring welcoming our fiends and allies. But, based on
the statements that I've made, I have to vote no.
Mr. Dawkins: Under clarification, let the records reflect that none of the
four Commissioners who voted in favor of this resolution advocated inviting
anybody with the blood on their hands as named by Commissioner Carollo. Let
the record reflect that.
Mr. Plummer: But, you don't know until the last minute whether they're going
to register.
Mr. Dawkins: I don't care...
Mayor Suarez: That's why he's saying it. That's why he's saying it. In
fact, at the last minute, I'm ready to entertain all kinds of proclamations
and resolutions from the City although I share Commissioner Kennedy's...
Mr. Dawkins: You know - I hate... I hate...
Mayor Suarez: Wait, wait, wait.
Mr. Dawkins: Okay, go ahead.
Mayor Suarez: Although I share Commissioner Kennedy's concern that we're not
here to decide foreign policy, we can also decide how local citizens feel and
how this Commission feels about the visit of people from certain countries
that don't guarantee fundamental human rights and I'll build that into all
kinds of resolutions. And we'll tell them how we feel and we'll tell them, as
you suggested in the Miami Herald, that while they're here they should look at
free institutions including free speech and media and press and all the other
institutions that we have in this country. And I'll build that into any
resolution that is needed at the time.
Mr. Dawkins: Go ahead, we've finished with you.
Mayor Suarez: And, at this point, we're just welcoming the Sister Cities
Convention and we're very happy that they will come and you're going to...
Mr. Dawkins: And if you really and truly want to demonstrate to the world
what we're about, when Ronald Reagan come here, tell him to give me as much
money as he's giving the Contras to go to South Africa and I can hire some
people and buy some guns and go to South Africa and end this all. See.
Mayor Suarez: We might build a resolution to that effect.
Mr. Dawkins: That's right. I mean, if Ronald Reagan and the administration
would provide me with the money that they are providing the Contras with to
wipe out human rights violations, which I'm all in favor of, to go to South
Africa, I could hire enough Asian arms, Vietnam veterans to go over there and
end this all.
Mayor Suarez: Particularly, if you lead the charge. I'll vote for that.
Mr. Carollo: I move that resolution that we designate Commissioner Dawkins to
lead the invasion to South Africa.
Mr. Plummer: With a one way ticket.
Mayor Suarez: Victor, I hope you're satisfied. Go...
Mr. Carollo: And to meet with the contact that he would need to lobby the
Reagan administration, Mr. Jorge Mas and his water pistols.
Mayor Suarez: There you go. You got the complete army now. I hope you got
what you want. I think that it really is an expression of how we feel about
the convention.
Mr. Azria: This is going to help me to try to get it back. Because I told
you we have...
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Mayor Suarez: All right.
Mr. Dawkins: If you get it, fine. If you don't, we know you did the best you
could.
Mr. Carollo: Victor, again for the record...
Mr. Dawkins: I'll call the next item. Get the next item so we can go home.
Mr. Carollo: ... regardless of how any member of this Commission has voted or
expressed themselves, this convention, like any other, has every right to come
to Miami under on their own. And that was never the question or the issue.
Mr. Azria: Thank you, Commissioner.
Mayor Suarez: Thank you. And thank you, Victor, for your patience.
Mr. Azria: Thank you. Thank you very much.
65. RENAME MAGNOLIA PARK TO ALBERT E. PALLOT PARK
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, Mrs. Burton who is in her early years, would like to
go home. She is not in the best of health. Could we take item seventy-five
out of...
Mayor Suarez: Yes, I know we have someone else...
Mr. Dawkins: So moved.
Mayor Suarez: ... whose wife is very sick. We're going to take up seventy-
one. We're also going to take up the...
Mr. Carollo: I just need to take seventy-six briefly. After we do that, if
you like.
Mr. Dawkins: Well, let her, let...
Mayor Suarez: Ma'am, go ahead.
Mr. Plummer: Could we do seventy-five? I don't think it's controversial. At
least I don't think it is to renaming Magnolia Park to Albert J. Pallot Park.
I so move.
Mr. Carollo: Is that the same Albert J. Pallot that we have on the
beautification committee?
Mr. Plummer: For so many years, yes.
Mayor Suarez: So moved.
Mr. Carollo: I second that motion.
Mayor Suarez: Seconded. Any discussion? Call the roll.
Margaret Burton: May I speak, sir?
Mayor Suarez: At your own risk.
Mr. Plummer: You - don't, don't, don't. You might lose, please.
Mr. Carollo: Is he a native American?
Mr. Plummer: Please call the roll quickly before she talks.
Mayor Suarez: Call the roll.
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The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 87-472
A RESOLUTION RENAMING THE CITY OF MIAMI'S MAGNOLIA PARK,
LOCATED ON N.E. 6TH AVENUE BETWEEN 38TH AND 39TH STREETS,
THE "ALBERT E. PALLOT PARK"; DIRECTING THE CITY CLERK TO
FORWARD A COPY OF THIS RESOLUTION TO AFFECT CITY AGENCIES
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here
and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Carollo, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Mayor Suarez: You were very eloquent, darling.
Mr. Carollo: Item seventy-six, item seventy-six.
Mr. Plummer: Bye.
Margaret Burton: I've lived in this town sixty years and I waited six
months... hours to speak to you all today, now how's that?
Mr. Plummer: If you want to speak at the chance of losing, go ahead.
Mayor Suarez: Wait, go ahead. Wait, wait, Commissioner.
Mr. Carollo: Well, we thank you for your patience, Ma'am, thank you very
much.
Ms. Burton: Thank you. Please say nothing more.
Mr. Dawkins: Joe, you want to...
Mayor Suarez: This is S... wait, wait, wait... let me do S-3. This
gentleman's been waiting all day.
Ms. Burton: Mayor.
Mayor Suarez: Yes, Ma'am.
Ms. Burton: Please do not say anything to Mr. Pallot.
Mayor Suarez: We won't.
Mr. Carollo: We won't.
Ms. Burton: This is to be...
Mayor Suarez: Now he might hear about it, but, you know...
Mr. Dawkins: Well, you'd better go over here.
Ms. Burton: Will you...
Mr. Dawkins: Mrs. Burton, you'd better go over here. They're the ones who
going to tell it in the morning.
Ms. Burton: All right.
Mayor Suarez: We can't wipe it off the record.
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Ms. Burton: No, we won't wipe...
66. STAR IMPRINTS ON SIDEWALKS OF DESIGN CENTER DISTRICT
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Mayor Suarez: Yes, sir. S-3, you had...
Mr. Dawkins: No, go to the media and ask them not to put it in the Herald in
the morning.
Mayor Suarez: This has to do with the Design Center's...
Harold Krantz: That's right. This stuff is too heavy for me.
Mr. Dawkins: Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Mr. Carollo: Seventy-six.
Mayor Suarez: Sidewalk of stars, is that...
Mr. Krantz: Sidewalk of stars. We'd like to do the same thing...
Mr. Dawkins: Joe wanted to do seventy-six.
Mayor Suarez: Wait, but I... no, this... I promised the gentleman that I was
going to take him, he's trying to do something for the community.
Mr. Krantz: We'd like to do the same thing in the Miami Design District as
Los Angeles has done on Hollywood Boulevard. ..honoring designers - people in
the design field that have given their lives and their careers...
Mayor Suarez: What do you need basically from the City? Permission to have
the - the sidewalks have the stars like in Hollywood and so on?
Mr. Krantz: That's all I need from you.
Mayor Suarez: No money?
Mr. Krantz: No cost. No additional cost to the City of Miami.
Mr. Dawkins: Move it.
Mr. Carollo: Second.
Mr. Plummer: What item is this?
Mr. Dawkins: Move it.
Mayor Suarez: S-3.
Mr. Dawkins: S-3, J.
Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded.
Ms. Kennedy: One second.
Mr. Plummer: Back to the Sneaky Pete.
Mayor Suarez: Well, they've been trying to get... I don't know why it took so
long to get on the agenda. You've had this idea for many months to do for the
Design Center - it's a beautiful idea.
Mr. Krantz: Yes, sir - we've been - we've been trying, but...
Ms. Kennedy: Second.
Mr. Carollo: That's past. Can we get a vote on that?
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Mr. Dawkins: Call the roll.
Mayor Suarez: Call the roll.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Dawkins, who moved
its adoption:
MOTION NO. 87-473
A MOTION GRANTING REQUEST MADE BY REPRESENTATIVES OF
MOORE'S DESIGN CENTER, TO HAVE STAR IMPRINTS ON THE
SIDEWALKS OF THE DESIGN CENTER DISTRICT TO HONOR
FAMOUS DESIGNERS AND PEOPLE IN THE DESIGN FIELD.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Kennedy, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
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67. CLOSE STREET FOR "THE MIRACLE LUNCH BRUNCH" ON BEHALF OF MIAMI CHILDRENS
HOSPITAL (BUILDING OWNERS AND MANAGERS ASSOCIATION OF GREATER MIAMI)
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Mr. Carollo: Item seventy-six has to do...
Mayor Suarez: We're still battling to get those parking meters removed over
there in the Design Center, go ahead.
Mr. Krantz: Thank you.
Mr. Carollo: Item seventy-six has to do with Miami Childrens Hospital.
Mayor Suarez: Miami Childrens Hospital, item seventy-six.
Mr. Carollo: ... and I so move.
Mr. Odio: Mr. - Mr. - Mr. Commissioner...
Mr. Plummer: Wait, wait, wait a minute, Joe. This is the one the police
department was saying about is going to be so damn expensive now...
Mr. Odio: They - they... no...
Mr. Plummer: Where's the representative of the police department?
Mr. Odio: They're upstairs, but I can assure you... Lt. Kopets...
Mr. Plummer: No, no, no. Not you, Frankie. No, don't you get involved in
this.
Mr. Odio: They have recommended against the closure of Flagler on a Friday.
Mr. Plummer: What they have recommended, I'll tell you because they told
me —was the closing of 3rd Avenue...
Mr. Odio: Right.
Mr. Plummer: ... from Flagler to First.
Mr. Odio: Right.
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Mr. Plummer: Which would not cause anywhere near the disruption nor would it
be as expensive in the amount of manpower.
Mr. Odio: Yes, it would be - very expensive.
Maria Iglesias: Okay. Well, my name is Maria Iglesias. My address is 2899
Collins Avenue, Miami Beach. I wanted to know - would like to request the
City...
Mr. Plummer: Who do you represent?
Ms. Iglesias: Excuse me?
Mr. Plummer: Who do you represent?
Ms. Iglesias: Building Owners and Managers Association of Greater Miami, who
is preparing this benefit on behalf of the Childrens Hospital - Miami
Childrens Hospital. We wanted to request the City will do... waive the fees
on the police, so, in that case, we will take any street they want to give us
and Southeast 3rd is fine.
Mr. Odio: Sorry, I have to recommend against that. First of... we have a no
funding policy...
Mr. Carollo: How much do they need?
Ms. Kennedy: How much... yes, how much are we talking about?
Mr. Carollo: This is for Miami Childrens Hospital.
Ms. Iglesias: Is - is for the child...
Mr. Odio: I have no idea what the amount is.
Ms. Iglesias: Well, the street will be closed if we get Southeast 3rd Avenue,
will be between Flagler and Southeast 1st and it will be between the hours
of... the festival is between the hours of 11:30 and 3:30 p.m.
Mr. Carollo: May 29th is what day, excuse me.
Mr. Plummer: And that...
Ms. Iglesias: May 29th is a Friday.
Mr. Plummer: It's on a Friday, Joe, the traffic...
Mr. Carollo: It's a Friday.
Mr. Plummer: ...down there on a Friday - people trying to get to the bank - I
think...
Mr. Carollo: But we've closed it before, for the bed races.
Ms. Iglesias: Yes, it was closed last Friday. It was closed May 1st...
Mr. Plummer: Flagler?
Mr. Carollo: Yes, Friday.
Ms. Iglesias: It was a Friday afternoon.
Mr. Carollo: Yes.
Ms. Iglesias: May 1st was closed for a parade any...
Mr. Carollo: For the bed races.
Ms. Iglesias: ... the whole Flagler was closed on the way to the court house.
Mayor Suarez: What time of the afternoon we talking about?
Ms. Iglesias: Excuse me?
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Mayor Suarez: What time of the afternoon are we talking about?
Ms. Iglesias: 11:30 - it's lunch time. It will be open... it will be over by
rush hour - it will be over by then.
Mr. Plummer: What's the police cost factor on this? Seventy-six, the Flagler
Street closing. Well, I'll tell you what. I'm willing to vote to honor your
request, but you've got to fully understand what the cost factor is going to
be because you've got to pick it up.
Mr. Carollo: What is the cost factor? We should have plenty of officers
there working on duty already at that time.
Mr. Plummer: To close Flagler from Biscayne to Third.
Mayor Suarez: I'm glad somebody recognized that for once, that a lot of times
we can do these things with the officers that are in the area - without having
to pay additional money.
Mr. Carollo: Sure. Absolutely.
Ms. Iglesias: Exactly.
Mayor Suarez: There you go.
Mr. Carollo: He's starting to learn in a year and a half; you're agreeing
more and more with me. You're getting there.
Mr. Plummer: Well, you were the one that came and said that you recommended
against it.
Mayor Suarez: Yes, see. You see. What are you laughing about, Henry? The
guy knows too much.
Mr. Carollo: Now you got to do something with Jeffrey and shave that beard
off here with Henry, you know.
Mr. Plummer: 11:30 to...
Ms. Kennedy: 11:30 to 4:00.
Ms. Iglesias: Eleven... eleven thirty through through...
Mr. Carollo: 11:30 to 3:00.
Ms. Iglesias: 3:30, that's... yes... festival hours. It just may need, you
know, a little while before.
Mr. Carollo: I mean, you got dozens of police officers in that area at that
time of day.
Mayor Suarez: Absolutely.
Mr. Carollo: It can't be that much.
Mayor Suarez: Absolutely. They work a little harder, that's it. It's not
going to kill anybody.
Mr. Plummer: $350?
Mr. Odio: Fine, we'll do it, we'll do it
Mayor Suarez: And Ken Nelson will volunteer - union representative - to heck.
Mr. Carollo: How much?
Mr. Plummer: Can't you do it with...
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: (OFF MIKE) That's an off duty rate.
Mr. Plummer: Well, why can't you do it with in-house people?
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Mr. Odio: We'll try. Well, we'll do it - it's only three...
Mr. Carollo: We ought to do it with in-house people, that's what I'm saying.
Mr. Plummer: You talking about a sergeant and three police.
Ms. Kennedy: Four.
Mr. Odio: Fine, fine.
Ms. Kennedy: You moved it, I second.
Mr. Odio: No problem.
Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded.
Mr. Carollo: Hey, J. L., now we can go there and do a little patrolling
ourselves, right?
Mayor Suarez: Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Carollo, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 87-474
A RESOLUTION CONCERNING THE "MIRACLE LUNCH BRUNCH"
BLOCK PARTY TO BE CONDUCTED BY THE BUILDING OWNERS AND
MANAGERS ASSOCIATION OF GREATER MIAMI TO BE HELD MAY
29, 1987, PROVIDING FOR THE CLOSURE OF DESIGNATED
STREETS TO THROUGH VEHICULAR TRAFFIC; CONDITIONED UPON
THE REQUIREMENT THAT THE CITY WILL BE INSURED AGAINST
ANY POTENTIAL LIABILITY.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Kennedy, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
68. DISCUSSION RE CITY HIRING PRACTICES; LEE AMATO'S COMPLAINT OF FIRE
DEPARTMENT
Mr. Carollo: Gentlemen.
Mayor Suarez: She really looks like she's going to faint back there. Item
seventy-one.
Mr. Carollo: I have to run out as I told you. I apologize.
Ms. Iglesias: Thank you.
Mr. Carollo: Good luck.
Mr. Plummer: What item is this?
Mayor Suarez: Seventy-one, he's... his wife is very pregnant.
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Mr. Lee Amato: Thank's for your empathy - I mean sympathy. First of all, I
want to thank you all for your time and I also want to apologize for having to
be here. I thought that this matter could be settled at a lower level of
management, but apparently not. So, if you'll allow me, I'll just be brief
and to the point.
Mr. Plummer: Are you familiar with this?
Mr. Amato: In May, 186, I successfully passed the City of Miami...
Mayor Suarez: You have to give us your name. I don't know if you did, and
address.
Mr. Amato: Oh, excuse me. Lee Amato and I'm presently living at 5551 S. W.
90th Avenue in Cooper City.
Mr. Plummer: (OFF MIKE) It's a register that ran out. He was on tire€
registers that ran out. For fire, I believe.
Mr. Amato: In Miami of 186, I successfully passed the City of Miami
firefighter's examinations, scoring ninety-six and a half. I was called for
and successfully passed all the ensuing examinations to the satisfaction of
the City of Miami. I was also given an interview by Personnel in the City of
Miami Fire Department. The interviewees were well pleased...
Mr. Dawkins: Just a minute, just a minute, just a minute, just a minute, sir.
Mr. Amato: Sure.
Mr. Dawkins: Mr. Manager, you got anybody from the fire department who can
rebut what this gentleman is saying or confirm what he's saying?
Mr. Odio: Yes, I have some information here, I have...
Mr. Dawkins: Okay, good, then, okay, go right ahead, sir. I just wanted to
be sure we had someone here who could do something.
Mr. Amato: Sure, thank you. The interviewees were well pleased with my past
work experience, education, and my eagerness. I was informed, however, that I
could not be appointed because of my race and sex. And that I would have to
wait and apply for the position again. As apparent, the eligible roster is
going to run out soon and there will not be another class. I was the next to
be appointed, according to the lieutenants that interviewed me. So, I'd have
to apply and take the test again and you can see how this scenario can
reoccur. I could take it, score quite high and be denied an appointment to
the fire college because I'm a Caucasian male. I had filed the appropriate
paper work with affirmative action in the EEOC in an attempt to correct this
oversight. I was informed, however, that the government and the City have
entered into a consent decree agreement - which on page 13 states, that for
each entry level position of firefighter, the goal shall be fifty-six percent
minorities and women each year. To my knowledge, the City of Miami has hired
eighty percent minorities. I believe this violates the intent of the decree,
as well as my civil rights as per title 7 of the Civil Rights Act of 1964.
since December 19th, I have appealed by phone, letter, and personal meetings.
All of which have been well documented for some sort of recourse. To this
date, I haven't been able to settle it. So I'm here appealing to you to see
if anything can be done about this.
Mayor Suarez: I just want to answer a couple of points. The fact of the City
hiring 80 percent minorities would not itself be a violation of the consent
decree for the simple reason that the City population's roughly 80 percent
minorities. Now, what was the cut-off figure for hiring for the fire
department this year? I remember the figure was in the high 901s.
Mr. Odio: Well, let me say this...
Mayor Suarez: Because I don't want to give... I don't want anybody to get the
impression that a 96 would automatically make you...
Mr. Odio: No - let me - let me explain this...
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Mayor Suarez: I mean a 96 was just a - it's a good grade, but, I mean, they
mostly hired from 96 up, I think.
Mr. Odio: Well, they were - they were - if I'm - this information is correct,
I know it is, that there were...
Mayor Suarez: We have an incredible amount of demand for positions in the
fire department and people do quite well.
Mr. Amato: I tried to...
Mr. Odio: Well, there were 933 applicants...
Mayor Suarez: Right.
Mr. Odio: ... took the examination for firefighter. Of them, 672 passed.
Thirty-six hires came from the race, or reflects six Anglo males or 17
percent; six black males or 17 percent; twenty, that's 56 percent Hispanic
males; and one 3 percent that is "other male" and three, which is 8 percent
women. Seventeen percent Anglo males were hired at a rate greater than their
representation in the population of 10.7 percent. The score of those hired
range from 99.130 to 83.478. Six applicants were hired with higher scores;
two Anglo males, two Hispanic males, and one Black male, and one "other" male.
There were also...
Mr. Amato: Excuse me, sir, could you go over those figures again? How many?
Mr. Odio: The score ranged from 99.130 to 83.478. Six applicants were hired
with higher scores. Two Anglo males...
Mayor Suarez: With higher scores than the - Mr. Amato?
Mr. Odio: ... two Hispanic males, one Black male, and one "other" male.
There were also eight other individuals who scored higher than Lee Amato who
also were not hired. Mr. Amato alleges that ten Blacks and women with lower
scores were hired to fill the vacancies. The record reflects there were
fourteen candidates with the same, exact score of 96.521 as Mr. Amato. Six of
these were hired - four Hispanic males and two Anglo males. There were
twenty-four others with lower scores hired - fourteen Hispanic males, five
Black males, two Anglo males, and three Anglo females. The scores ranged...
Mr. Dawkins: Three what?
Mr. Odio: Anglo females.
Mr. Dawkins: Oh.
Mr. Odio: Mr. Amato's allegations, after reviewing this case, and we did
review it very carefully, of discrimination based on sex, is not
substantiated. There were both males and females hired with lower scores than
Lee Amato. But the fact that two Anglo males were also hired with lower
scores, invalidates his argument of disparate treatment based on race.
Mr. Dawkins: Thank you.
Mr. Amato: Well, apparently...
Mr. Odio: Mr. Amato has appealed through several channels. He filed a
discrimination complaint with the affirmative action division. The
investigation concluded that his complaint of discrimination was without merit
and not substantiated. He then sought redress by the department of personnel
management to grant a waiver from the next examination scheduled for October
and a guarantee of the next appointment to the fire college. His appeal to
extend eligibility beyond the life of the register was denied pursuant to
Section 8.1 of the City of Miami Civil Service Rules and Regulation. Mr.
Amato then filed a charge of discrimination with the Equal Employment
Opportunity Commission and a response is being prepared by Dr. Hattie Daniels
of the Department of Internal Audits and Reviews by the due date of May 18,
1987. And I recommend that we wait for the EEOC...
Mayor Suarez: Are you... yes, are you presently before the EEOC? Do you have
a pending complaint?
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Mr. Amato: Yes I do, sir. Are you done?
Mr. Plummer: I only got one question.
Mr. Amato: Mr. Plummer, yes.
Mr. Plummer: Not of you, sir, of the manager. I guess the thing that bothers
me is you make a statement that says that two Anglo males with lower scores
were hired.
Mr. Odio: Yes.
Mr. Plummer: Now, something is wrong there.
Mr. Dawkins: Not necessarily. Okay, okay. Mr. Manager...
Mr. Odio: Well...
Mr. Dawkins: ... is the score the only determining factor that determine who
you hire?
Hattie Daniels: No, no.
Mr. Odio: That's not...
Mr. Dawkins: Just because he score 100, does that mean that he auto... is it
other factors that come into play when you interview the individual?
Mr. Odio: That's... the answer to that is...
Mr. Plummer: No...
Mr. Dawkins: The score gets him in to be interviewed, am I correct?
Mr. Odio: That is correct, sir, the...
Mr. Plummer: No - no question about that, Commissioner.
Mr. Odio: The other two that were hired were certified firefighters. Anybody
once these scores are put aside, anybody can be hired from the list that...
Mr. Plummer: That's not the point that I make. I think the real reason we
give the exam is to get what we consider the best qualified individuals. Now,
if, in fact, I heard you also correctly, you stated that you had at one time
offered him placement in the next class. Is that correct? Didn't...
Mr. Amato: The fire officials offered me next placement. I was the next
candidate at my interview.
Mr. Plummer: Okay, well, the point I'm trying to make, what in the hell do we
have an exam for, if we don't get the best qualified individuals? Now...
Mr. Odio: Because the exam is only part of...
Mr. Plummer: Okay, then, all right. Then tell me what, demonstratively, made
these two Anglos, with lower scores, more qualified than this man with a
higher score?
Mr. Odio: I cannot answer it because I didn't interview them.
Mr. Plummer: Well, I think it's an interesting question.
Mr. Odio: Well, I can come back...
Mr. Plummer: Either that or let's get rid of the exam because it doesn't
prove a damn thing.
Mr. Odio: Commissioner, the exam is only a part of...
Mr. Plummer: And all I'm asking is, what made the two Anglos with lower
scores more demonstratively superior, that's the word, than the one - this
gentleman here?
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Chief Floyd Jordan: Commissioner Plummer.
Mr. Plummer: Sir?
Chief Jordan: Floyd Jordan...
Mr. Plummer: Yes.
Chief Jordan: Deputy Fire Chief. The written examination only shows minimum
qualifications.
Mr. Plummer: Fine.
Chief Jordan: There are other qualifications...
Mr. Plummer: I understand that.
Chief Jordan: In that particular class that the gentleman was not chosen for,
we were also hiring individuals who were better qualified because they were
already eight certified firefighters and/or eight certified paramedics, or
EMT's.
Mr. Plummer: Chief, did you so stipulate in the exam or in the job
description inviting them, that if you were a certified firefighter
previously, that you would have preference over someone that was not?
Chief Jordan: I'm not sure about that.
Mr. Amato: No, sir. I have the ad right here.
Mr. Plummer: Wait, wait. I'm talking with the Chief, thank you.
Mr. Amato: Oh.
Chief Jordan: The ad? Or do you have the job announcement? It may state so
on the job announcement, but I'm not sure.
Mr. Plummer: Well, you see, I think what you're saying is somewhat, now - you
might come back and tell me these two guys were super duper; that, you know,
and that this guy wasn't all as good as those. But I'd like to hear why.
Mr. Odio: They were certified firefighters. That - and only that...
Mr. Plummer: But you see...
Mr. Odio: Commissioner, but let me point out something that is very
important. He's accusing the City of discrimination based on sex.
Mr. Plummer: I'm not entering into that discussion. Did I not say I wasn't
speaking to him, I was speaking to you?
Mr. Odio: The reason... you go ahead.
Chief Jordan: Commissioner, for the past several years, we have given
preference to certain individuals because it benefits us; it reduces the
training time and it also gives an overall better qualified individual.
Mr. Plummer: Chief, I have no problem with that. If you say so up front that
people who - like we used to have the veterans points. You see, you said it
before, then, when this man, or anyone else goes to take the exam, he knows
that if there are others who are already certified firefighters, that there is
no discrimination; that, in fact, there was a bonus given for that.
Mr. Odio: Commissioner, well taken. We'll do it from now on.
Mr. Plummer: Okay.
Mr. Odio: We will put it in the ads.
Mr. Plummer: Okay. I just... you know - if you're going to go from an
interest of fairness is what I'm saying.
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Mr. Dawkins: Mr. Manager, when is your next fire class?
Chief Jordan: Ah...
Mr. Odio: For fifteen.
Chief Jordan: We don't anticipate hiring anyone for the remainder of the
year. I believe what the gentleman was referring to when he stated that he
was...
Mr. Dawkins: No, no, no, no. I'm like J.L. I'm not talking to the
gentleman. I'm talking to you and the manager.
Chief Jordan: We don't have any schedule.
Mr. Odio: We don't have.
Mr. Dawkins: All right. So if you don't have any schedule, I'm going to tell
you, Mr. Manager now. If you don't have two-thirds of that class mostly Black
females and White females, don't start it. How many female firefighters we
got?
Chief Jordan: Seventeen.
Mr. Dawkins: Seventeen female firefighters?
Chief Jordan: That's correct.
Mr. Dawkins: I mean, on the trucks?
Chief Jordan: Either riding fire apparatus or emergency medical apparatus.
Mr. Dawkins: Well, riding fire... okay, well let me rephrase it. How many
women we got riding fire apparatus?
Chief Jordan: Seventeen.
Mr. Dawkins: Seventeen. How many of them are Black?
Chief Jordan: One.
Mr. Dawkins: Now everybody up here raising hell about him.
Ms. Kennedy: And the rest?
Chief Jordan: Fifteen Anglo females; one Hispanic female and one Black
female.
Ms. Kennedy: I mean, this is incredible.
Mr. Dawkins: Okay, I'm going to rephrase that.
Mr. Plummer: Well, wait a minute. Wait, wait.
Mr. Dawkins: Mr. Mayor, if you all don't have some Black and Spanish females,
don't start your class, hear?
Mr. Plummer: Well, let me ask this question. How many applied for the last
class?
Mr. Dawkins: How many what?
Mr. Plummer: How many Hispanic, how many Black females applied and took the
test?
Chief Jordan: I don't have that information. But I can get it for you.
Mr. Plummer: Well, it would be interesting to note. If you didn't have any,
then you can't...
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Mr. Dawkins: Then, now that's bull ....I mean, then they should have told me
you didn't have any and I would have found you some. No, I'm not going to
accept that.
Ms. Kennedy: Yes, we can always find you...
Mr. Dawkins: I will not accept that. Because I got some high... some kids
coming out of high school with nothing else to do but apply.
Mr. Plummer: Okay, you can give it to me at a later time.
Chief Jordan: I'm not sure but there were several on the register.
Mr. Plummer: Yes, I understand.
Mr. Dawkins: Well, I don't care. I'll tell you what - you can have some
apply, not apply, and you don't find them, don't start a class.
Mr. Odio: I tell you, Commissioner...
Mr. Dawkins: So you've got from now until you get ready to start your class
to locate them, test them, and identify them.
Mr. Odio: I tell you one thing that's an aside I watched... I wanted to see
how they test them in person. And, believe me, I... there is some exercise
that they have to do, that I couldn't do.
Mr. Dawkins: I understand clearly.
Mr. Odio: A woman cannot...
Mr. Dawkins: ... that women cannot...
Ms. Kennedy: Are you saying that women can...
Mr. Dawkins: ...chin and pull up by their arms because womens' breasts are
made for nursing babies, not doing chin ups.
Ms. Kennedy: Not any more.
Mr. Odio: You say that the problem is...
Mr. Dawkins: So you can't expect that, okay? No more than you could expect
me to nurse a baby, all right?
Mr. Plummer: Ohhhhhhhh.
Mr. Dawkins: So now, if some concession, I mean, some of these things are
written in as exclusionary measures, all right? So now, let's face - let's be
honest with each other - and those that exclude women, let's find out if they
are really necessary, and, if not, get rid of them.
Mr. Odio: Well, I did ask that question as an aside and the problem is if
women - and this is very interesting, it really is because I saw...
Ms. Kennedy: Oh boy, listen to this one now.
Mr. Odio: I saw four women trying like hell to get in there and they were
really trying hard...
Mr. Dawkins: Trying to do what?
Ms. Kennedy: Trying to what?
Mr. Odio: If they cannot reach the ladder on the side of the truck, they
cannot go out on a call because they have to get, and they...
Mr. Dawkins: All right, then make paramedics out of them. What ladder they
got to climb up on a paramedic truck?
Mr. Plummer: Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Dawkins didn't say they had to
graduate. You got to put them in the class.
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Mr. Dawkins: Then, you will - he's right, now J.L. is right.
Mr. Plummer: Hey, if they can't muster it. Let me tell you, Dawkins would...
Mr. Dawkins: But you put them in the class and you don't graduate, then you
ain't got no managing job. J.L.'s right now. He ain't got no problem.
You're right. You listen to J. L., hear? And you will be trying to get a job
with the firemen.
Mr. Odio: There was one smart girl that had a seven inch platform put under
her tennis shoes and she reached the ladder.
Ms. Kennedy: Tomorrow could you get us those facts? Of how many women
applied?
Chief Jordan: We can get that information. There is a breakdown done every
year by the personnel department, yes.
Ms. Kennedy: Do you have it now?
Mr. Dawkins: I will re... I will actively recruit... me... Rosario and I will
take it upon ourselves to actively recruit some people who can reach the top
of the ladder, okay?
Mayor Suarez: Mr. Amato.
Mr. Amato: All right. As far as getting back to this 80 percent number,
whatever you choose, it seems to be a figure that is not in the consent
decree. And, in fact, just about excludes White men from taking the
opportunity to get the job unless they score exceptionally high. It says here
that the City of Miami is an equal opportunity employer. Apparently, that's a
lie.
Mr. Dawkins: No, sir, I think your problem is that you are just being exposed
to what I was exposed to for sixty-two years, okay?
Mr. Amato: So that makes it fine. That makes it right.
Mr. Dawkins: You're damn right that makes it right, okay? Now you see, your
problem is, you want to come in here and because you are suffering now the
displeasures that I and others have suffered for many a years and you want
everybody to fall over backwards and accommodate you.
Mr. Amato: Mr. Dawkins.
Mr. Dawkins: Now, if you feel...
Mr. Amato: Um hummm.
Mr. Dawkins: ... that because the consent decree attempts to correct an evil
that you had nothing to do with, your parents probably had nothing to do with,
that's the law...
Mr. Amato: Okay - are you...
Mr. Dawkins: Okay? And if you are going to stand there and say that you were
discriminated against and you want to feel like that, yes.
Mr. Amato: I didn't mean to make you fall over backwards in my presentation.
I hope you recovered. Okay, I'm very...
Mr. Dawkins: I tell you what, I've recovered so much...
Mr. Amato: Great.
Mr. Dawkins: ... until I can help you go find you another job. See, where
you need to be... where your, your, your...
Mr. Amato: No - well, you see...
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Mr. Dawkins: ... professional skills and your excellency in passing tests
will serve you well.
Mr. Amato: Well, whether it will or not. Apparently, it didn't now.
However, I have made a f inal appeal here and I have to go to New York next
week, there are some lawyers that have said some good success against
affirmative action there as well.
Mr. Dawkins: I would suggest that you go get you a lawyer if you think... I
would think...
Mr. Amato: Excuse me, sir. You could say, pardon. You could excuse yourself
when you interrupt. Don't you have any manners?
Mayor Suarez: Please, one at a time.
Mr. Amato: Thank you.
Mr. Dawkins: I'll tell you sir, I would suggest...
Mr. Amato: I'll wait for you to be done, Mr. Dawkins. Then I'll speak, go
ahead.
Mr. Dawkins: Thank you. I would suggest that you go get your lawyer if you
think that you have been wronged and let's go to court and litigate, and if
you've been wronged, sue the City. That's what you need to do, sir.
Mr. Amato: Thank you.
Mr. Dawkins: You're more than welcome, sir.
Mr. Amato: Okay.
Mayor Suarez: What we're saying really is that there is no implication that
the written exam is going to make you necessarily a more qualified applicant
to the fire department. Whether we should be saying that or not is a matter
to be debated across the nation in many forms including the legal forms that
you've chosen. But, we have other criteria and we apply those.
Mr. Amato: I - well - you know I just wanted to come here and express my
opinion. My counsel thinks otherwise. So...
Mayor Suarez: I understand that.
Mr. Amato: ... I hope that we could avoid a long arduous and costly battle -
apparently not. I thought you could spend your constituents tax dollars more
equitably. But, just the same, I'll give the City ten days - I'd like to
extend that courtesy, and if you have a change of heart, and you contact me
and we can make an arrangement that's mutually beneficial for both sides, I'd
be more than happy to. If I don't hear from the City in ten days, I'll...
Mr. Odio: Where, where... excuse me, Mr. Amato, I'm sorry to interrupt, where
do you live now?
Mr. Amato: Now, I live in Cooper City.
Mr. Odio: Okay, you don't qualify then. You have to live within the City
limits.
Mr. Amato: Well, you see if I was bypassed for the appointment, at the time I
would... I had to live in the City.
Mayor Suarez: You lived in the City at the time you applied?
Mr. Amato: Yes, and at the time I was bypassed by the appointment. Any other
questions on that? Okay, thank you. So, I think ten days is more... is
reasonable and I hope I get a positive response. Thank you very much for your
time.
Mayor Suarez: Thank you for your presentation, sir.
Mr. Amato: Thank you, Mr. Dawkins.
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Mr. Dawkins: Madam City Attorney, prepare to go to court with this gentleman
and meet him in court and if he's right, we'll pay him if he's wrong back.
Thank you.
69. DONATE 12 AUTOS TO NATIONAL ASSOCIATION C.B. OF FLORIDA FOR COMMUNITY
SERVICES PROGRAM
Mayor Suarez: Item sixty-six. Got to go through these quickly now so
everybody can...
Ancelo Maliero: Yes, I'll be brief. My name is Ancelo Maliero. I'm here
to... on behalf of the National Association C. B. of Florida, and what we...
Mr. Plummer: I move it. We've done it in the past.
Mr. Dawkins: Second, but under discussion. Are these the same vehicles that
the gas was escaping in? If they...
Mr. Plummer: No, these are Fords. The others were Plymouths.
Mr. Dawkins: Are we... make sure, sir.
Mr. Maliero: They're not the same vehicles, sir, and we have given a hold
harmless clause to the City of Miami in the...
Mr. Odio: Right.
Mr. Maliero: ...event that...
Mr. Dawkins: Beautiful, no problem. I just don't want to - I just don't want
to endanger nobody's life, that's all.
Mayor Suarez: What is the policy - what is the policy and I'm going to ask
the same question that was asked before when Commissioner Dawkins proposed the
giving of uniforms to - police uniforms to Haiti. What is the policy on
selling used City automobiles like these and how do we determine to allow one
group to buy them and not another group, I don't understand this.
Mr. Odio: I don't think we...
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, it's simple. There is a policy of this Commission
that if something is declared surplus, it is then first offered to a sister
cities to see if there is any response from any of the member cities. If not,
then it goes to a regular... either a public auction or so designated by this
Commission. In this particular case, those cars have not been declared
surplus at this point and I think that is, in fact, what they're trying to do.
Mayor Suarez: They have not been declared surplus so we're selling them to a
particular organization?
Mr. Plummer': Np,,sir, we're not selling them. We're giving them.
Mayor Suarez: We're giving them to... why, why? Why this organization and
not the whole rest of the world that might want to use our non -surplus
automobiles? What sense does that make?
Mr. Plummer: Well. If I can only tell you the work of the C. B. group, I can
tell you that in every one of the disturbances that has occurred in this City,
that those people have been out in numbers, have assisted the police
department in every way, and I mean every way, and I think that they have
demonstrated their ability to help this City and this is a way of this City
helping them.
Mayor Suarez: Do we have other similar - I don't know if they're called Crime
Watch groups or Crime Commission groups...
Mr. Plummer: To my...
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Mayor Suarez: ... or organizations that compete for this largesse of the
City...
Mr. Plummer: To my knowledge...
Mayor Suarez: ... to take non -surplus vehicles and give them away?
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, to my knowledge, there has never been a request from
any other group similar to this.
Mayor Suarez: There will be one very soon.
Mr. Plummer: So be it.
Mr. Maliero: Mayor...
Mayor Suarez: Yes.
Mr. Maliero: ... may I have a little map and point...
Mayor Suarez: Yes, sure.
Mr. Plummer: At the sake of losing.
Mr. Maliero: May I point out, sir, these are unserviceable cars that have
been at the motor pool for quite some time.
Mayor Suarez: Well, we usually go to auction on these.
Mr. Maliero: I'm sorry.
Mayor Suarez: And we get some money back for them and everyone can go with
their cash and buy them and there's many, many groups out there that would
like to do the work that you're doing, which I think is fine work.
Mr. Maliero: Yes, sir.
Mayor Suarez: ... and would also like to have vehicles to do it with. Just
like there's many fine groups that would like to have the C. B.'s and I don't
think any one group should be able to have an exclusive right to acquire these
vehicles in this fashion.
Mr. Plummer: I don't think in any way that this is exclusive. There are
other automobiles that can be vied for. I will be making a motion after this,
if it passes, that I think will also demonstrate what we had in mind.
Mayor Suarez: Bet you Brother Paul would have liked to have known that the
City was giving away vehicles. Wouldn't you Brother Paul? Okay, I have no
further comments on this. We've wasted enough time talking about other things
today.
Mr. Plummer: Yes. Call the roll.
Mayor Suarez: Any further discussion? Call the roll.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved
its adoption:
MOTION NO. 87-475
A MOTION GRANTING REQUEST RECEIVED FROM REPRESENTATIVES OF
NATIONAL ASSOCIATION C.B. OF FLORIDA, TO ACQUIRE TWELVE
UNSERVICEABLE AUTOMOBILES WHICH WERE FORMERLY USED BY THE
MIAMI POLICE DEPARTMENT WHICH ARE CURRENTLY IN THE CITY'S
MOTOR POOL FOR THE PURPOSE OF USING SAID VEHICLES FOR
THEIR COMMUNITY SERVICES PROGRAM; FURTHER STIPULATING THAT
THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION C.B. OF FLORIDA WILL HOLD
HARMLESS THE CITY OF MIAMI FROM ANY AND ALL LIABILITY
INCURRED FROM THE REPAIR AND OPERATION OF SAID VEHICLES.
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Upon being seconded by Commissioner Dawkins, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
DURING ROLL CALL:
Mr. Dawkins: How many do we have?
Mr. Odio: It's only seventy-one, but by some will be re...
Mr. Dawkins: Beg pardon? I can't hear you, sir.
Mr. Odio: We will be replacing seventy... there are seventy-one there now for
auction and we'll be getting about two hundred more pretty soon.
Mr. Dawkins: You're giving them twelve out of seventy-one.
Mr. Odio: We're going to sell them on auction.
Mr. Dawkins: That leaves fifty-nine. Yes, and we're going to find somebody
for the other fifty-nine. Because we're so generous.
Mayor Suarez: Yes, and I'm going to look for, just like Commissioner Dawkins,
for someone for those other fifty-nine.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, if I may make a motion at this time, not a motion
of... just a motion of intent. This C. B. group feels, Mr. Manager... the C.
B. group feels that they can be most beneficial in a non -official police
capaCity. And I emphasize non -official police capaCity, in assisting in one
of the biggest problems that we have in this community and that is in stolen
automobiles. That they would like if the City would like to make available
the way to go into parking lots and others and find unoccupied stolen cars if
they can be verified, either through a channel or through a computer, they
would like to assist the police department in going to all of these places and
trying to find stolen vehicles. In no way would they access the national
crime computer, but they could possibly have a single channel where they could
call in and say, is this a stolen tag and if it is, then it can be recovered
immediately. There are over eight thousand cars stolen every year in the City
limits of the City of Miami. Their wanting to volunteer, I think, is an
effort on their behalf and I think it behooves the police department to see if
there isn't a way that they can incorporate this cadre of people to assist
them in trying to recover stolen cars.
Mr. Odio: Yes, sir, I'll...
Mr. Plummer: Do you want me to do that in a motion or is it necessary?
Mr. Odio: No, I don't need a motion. I'll have Wally meet with them and the
police department to work it out if possible.
Mr. Plummer: Fine.
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70. ALLOCATE $50,000 TO "COPS CARE - OPERATION HOMELESS" FOR FUND RAISER AT
ORANGE BOWL
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Mayor Suarez: Item sixty-seven.
Mr. Frank May: Good evening, Mr. Mayor, Commissioners.
Mayor Suarez: Now we get to clarify for Brother Paul that we are not naming a
park after him. For while there, he thought we were, you know. I saw that
smile on his face.
Mr. May: I'm Frank May. I'm a sergeant with the Miami Police Department and
I'm in charge of a program called Cops Care, Operation Homeless. I'd like to
read a statement that we've prepared for the Commissioners and Mr. Mayor and
the City Manager. These are difficult times for families, individuals, and
even governments, all of which are trying to make ends meet. But difficult as
these times may be for families, governments, and individuals, it's even
tougher for the homeless people of Greater Miami. In the police department,
we see, hear, and deal with problems of Miami's homeless people on a regular
basis every day and every night. Conservative estimates indicate there are at
least eight thousand such unfortunate souls wandering aimlessly through our
community. We can no longer afford to ignore the problem, even if most people
may not recognize this as a problem they should be concerned about it. I am
here today representing a new organization, Cops Care, Operation Homeless. We
hope to represent the beginning of a community wide effort to help the
homeless and hungry in this community. Toward that goal, I am here to ask for
the City Commission's help. In late summer or early fall, Operation Homeless
intends to stage the biggest and best single cultural event in the history of
this community. A major concert in the Orange Bowl will headline musical and
other entertainment acts who all have roots in Greater Miami or concern for
this community and it's homeless people. Everyone connected with this project
will be donating his services; from the attorney representing us to the
promoter publicizing this event to the rock stars who will draw tens of
thousands of music fans to the Orange Bowl. The Miami Police Department is
first in line to donate the free services of the Mr.s who will provide
security at the concert, and everyone who patronizes this event by purchasing
a ticket to the August 15th concert will be assured of one of the best times
they have ever had. And, in addition, they will be providing the funds we
will use to help Miami's homeless. I believe the request we are going to make
of this City are reasonable. We need your help to make this event a success
and I appreciate your time and consideration for that purpose. We hope and
expect to succeed in securing the time and performances of some or all of the
following: Michael Jackson, The Bee Gees, Julio Iglesias, Jimmy Buffet, The
Miami Sound Machine, Don Johnson, and other member of the Miami Vice cast. We
intend to succeed. Because if we don't, this community will have turned it's
back on those among us who literally have nothing - the homeless. Now...
Ms. Kennedy: Excuse me one second, Frank. Do you have confirmation from all
of these performers?
Mr. May: No, I'm going to have certain questions. I have some people here
that are on a staff with us, that if you have questions to address on the
promotion...
Mrs. Kennedy: That sounds fabulous.
Mr. May:...I will ask you to address Ron Sachs on the promotion aspects of
this event. If you have questions regarding the legal aspects of what we're
about to ask you or any other such legal questions, I'll ask you to direct
those to Mr. Mark Kamlar, who is our attorney.
Mayor Suarez: You have, presumably,
institution that would sponsor this.
Mr. May: Yes.
a non-profit, non -denominational
Mayor Suarez: Otherwise, we can't waive the fees.
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Mr. Plummer: Is this Cops Care a corporation?
Mr. May: Yes, it is.
Mr. Plummer: Non-profit corporation in the State of Florida.
Mr. May: Yes.
Mayor Suarez: You know, I wish we could get back the $41,000 in money for the
homeless that... we still have that? Have a shot at getting that if the
Commission wanted to change it's mind and use it to...
Mr. May: About funds, I'd like...
Mayor Suarez: ...defray these costs? Go ahead.
Mr. May: About funds, I'd like to bring some facts and figures to the
attention of the Commission because I'm sure you're really... you're really
not aware of them. First of all, we have arrested 6,853 people last year in
the City of Miami for homeless offenses. I'm not saying it's right, I'm not
saying it's wrong. I'm just saying that that's what we've done. The average
cost for each arrest is $300 which accounts for two million, fifty-two
thousand dollars that we have spent to arrest homeless people. And I'm not
saying that's right or wrong. But what I am saying may be something for us to
look at, is that we arrest those people for five minutes. They get no food,
they get no shelter, they get no physical, they get no clothing, just the five
minutes. And I think now that the paper trail has caught up to us and we know
what the tab is for what we're doing, we need to look at this a little bit
more of a creative way. If mean, if we looked at this financial situation for
five years, each one of these people would have a room. So, that's why we're
here today. This is a problem that needed to be addressed yesterday. We're
not here to ask for a donation, so to speak, we're asking for the City to make
an investment. Some of the things that we want to do besides put the rock
concert, on is make a music video that will depict the spirit of tri-ethnic
cooperation in this community. And it's my belief, and I've based that belief
on quite a few people talking to me, that the vast majority of people in the
Miami -Dade Metropolitan Area believe in that. The name of that song will be,
"I Am Miami," which will mean that Miami is it's people and not it's
buildings. Jesse Sarmiento, right behind me, is going to write the lyrics to
that song. We are going to succeed. We are well on our way. One-third of
these people are veterans. People that have paid their dues for their
country. Forty-two percent are displaced families, mothers and children.
It's a very, very, very sad situation. Now, we're not here just today, like I
said, to ask you just to donate something. This is an investment that we have
looked for many, many years - I've been a member of this community for fifteen
years. I came down here from New York City. I love Miami. Miami is my home.
And I've seen the tourist situation in Miami deteriorate over the last fifteen
years, and I've sat here tonight and we've talked about Miami being the
gateway to two continents...
Mayor Suarez: Well, just so you don't give the impression, the last two or
three years it has recuperated right back to the number that it was at it's
peak - just about six million a year.
Mr. May: Well, still having all my relatives up in New York City, I mean, we
can build the most beautiful Miami in the world. But if people outside of
Miami have a fear of coming here, we need to do...
Mr. Plummer: Okay - let's quit - let's quit talking - let's quit talking.
Let's do something. I move the item sixty-seven, assuming that 90-days prior
to, you can demonstrate some of the talent that you have so named. Second,
that any funds that are made and derived from this event, will have City
administration approval or veto. I think you know what I'm getting at, Frank.
Ms. Kennedy: Who do you plan... before you say that, and I agree, who was
going to administer the funds?
Mr. May: Okay...
Mr. Plummer: I'm not concerned who's going to administer them as much as I
am, Commissioner Kennedy, as to making sure that they go where they go where
they are intended to do. Now, -I think if you can accept those two provisions,
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okay? Or you can make it a 60-day before the promotion because if you don't
get them, you don't want to hold it. Because you're not going to be
successful and you want to be successful. I would move item sixty-seven with
the two provisions: that, demonstrate... you must demonstrate 60 days prior
to the scheduled event that you have the majority of entertainment that you
have stipulated. And the second provision is that any monies that are derived
from this event, that the City would get veto power or control - not control,
that's not the word - what's the word I want, Mr. Manager?
Mr. Odio: I guess what you're talking is that we...
Mr. Dawkins: Custodial - custodian.
Mr. Plummer: Custodial approval, okay?
Mr. May: Do you mean, that if I want to create a building, I'm going to have
to come and ask for permission of it?
Mr. Plummer: If you're going to spend the bulk of those funds, yes, this
Commission is going to have to retain some control over it.
Mr. May: All right.
Mr. Plummer: Frank, let me lay the cards on the table. We've seen too many
events in which where great sums of money were raised and somebody absconded
with them. You don't want that and I don't want that.
Mr. May: Oh, I agree with you.
Mr. Plummer: And I'm saying that is if we're going to be a partner in this
thing with you, we want to make sure that it's on the up and up; everybody is
clean ;%nd, the most important thing is, those who need it the most are
definitely going to receive it.
Mr. May: Okay, I would like, as part of that resolution if you would - of a
motion, excuse me - to be included that dollar for dollar, the money that is
collected goes to the homeless - no administrative fees. And I'd like that as
part of the record because it's something I have publicly affirmed to date.
Mr. Dawkins: But... okay now, I'm oeconding the motion and under
discussion...
Ms. Kennedy: I did already.
Mr. Dawkins: Okay, fine.
Mr. May: Okay.
Mr. Dawkins: Under discussion. We can go along with you as far as
administrative costs with the City. But, now we can't dictate to anybody else
out there whom you're dealing with, that they must not have any administrative
costs. That will be your job.
Mr. May: I'll... I'll take that job.
Mr. Plummer: Yes, but it... it will be approved by us.
Ms. Kennedy: It's a great project.
Mr. May: We're going to be talking about, in that also Mark has talked to me
about a couple of things here that - obviously there are going to be
production costs and stuff like that, that we're going to have underwritten by
corporations, you know. So we don't want to get tied into that. What I'm
talking about is after everything's... after all the dust settles and we've
got all the money in one account, then we want to have some people donate
their time, like we've donated their time...
Mr. Plummer: But you've already said... you've already said that none of that
money is going to go to pay expenses.
Mr. May: Right.
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Mr. Plummer: All of that money that is revenue is going to go to that which
is outlined as the homeless.
Mr. May: Exactly.
Mr. Plummer: So, I think that's what we're trying to build in that protection
too.
Mr. May: Then... then in addition to that, since we're partners, okay, then I
would like to... I would like to invite the City Commission, the Mayor, the
City Manager to join in me, over the next several months, and giving all the
energy that you got like I have and, let me tell you, I got a pregnant wife at
home and she's waiting with dinner right now and I've been working 12 - 14
hours a day on this...
Mr. Plummer: That's the first homeless.
Mr. May: Right -right. We were sitting here talking about that and there's a
few others sitting here too. I'd like to invite you to...
Ms. Kennedy: ... to dinner.
Mr. May: ... to participate in promoting this and wholeheartedly and with all
of your enthusiasm and quite a bit of your time, to make this event a success.
Ms. Kennedy: Anything that we can do, please let us know.
Mayor Suarez: That sounds like a second to me. We have a motion and a
second.
Ms. Kennedy: I seconded it already.
Mayor Suarez: Any further discussion? Call the roll.
THEREUPON MOTION DULY MADE by Vice Mayor Plummer and seconded by Commissioner
Kennedy the foregoing motion passed by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
NOTE FOR THE RECORD: The hereinabove motion is incorporated in Motion No. 87-
476 (see below)
Mayor Suarez: I know that Ken doesn't like the exceptions to the rule that
says that police officers to be at these events should be paid. But I think
in this particular case, I think you convinced them that we should get...
Mr. Plummer: He's already said that they are going to volunteer.
Mayor Suarez: Right.
Mr. May: We have a letter from Chief Dickson that's in your package that...
Mayor Suarez: Okay, okay. I'm sorry I asked. I must have missed it when I
was trying to...
Mr. Plummer: Now, wait a minute. I want to add a footnote here - I want to
add a footnote that this, in no way, let it be read by Metropolitan Dade
County, that we expect them to pick up the tab for the welfare of the homeless
of this community. We've been driving that point home for so long. It is
their obligation, under Dade County Welfare, we get in all of the newspaper
articles around the world, dateline Miami, it is not this City Commission's
responsibility. We do not have the funds for it. It is a responsibility of
Metropolitan Dade County, under Dade County Welfare, and I just want to send
them a message that we're trying to help, but the responsibility is theirs.
They have countywide responsibility and I don't want them to shirk and I go by
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backing that up of telling you that the federal grant that we got of $41,000,
a drop in the bucket, we gave to Dade County because it is their
responsibility.
Mr. Odio: Did you put...
Ms. Kennedy: That is right. And you want to be on the record...
Mr. Plummer: What?
Mr. Odio: The amount on this is forty thousand.
Ms. Kennedy: ... on that and I think it's great, but the fact is that it's
everybodys' responsibility... and that's why we're helping.
Mr. Plummer: What amount?
Mr. May: I'm going to talk about that now. There's one thing here that -
that Mark has asked me to talk.
Mayor Suarez: No, don't, don't. That's it. Frankie.
Mr. Odio: Frank, I asked... we're talking about $40,000. Is that correct?
Mr. May: Right. There's one thing in here that I guess I got to address.
Mayor Suarez: At your own risk. I mean, you're accompanied by Brother Paul
and everything, but...
Mr. May: Okay. It's a... it's the... no, it's an ethical question that...
Mayor Suarez: God and the devil together - isn't that the quote from Alan
Burke, I mean from the lady about Alan Burke in New York - with Fulton Sheen,
with Bishop Fulton Sheen and Alan Burke walking together and the lady said,
"My God, God and the devil together."
Mr. Plummer: Be careful. The next thing you're going to hear is Tammy and
Jim.
Mayor Suarez: Ron Sachs and Brother Paul. What a combination.
Mr. May: This is an ethical question...
Mr. Plummer: The only question there is, who is the devil?
Mr. May: ... that I don't think you would respect me for if I stuck you with
it afterwards and I know I want to bring it up front to you right now. And
that's the insurance, okay, and I looked into it and I know that the City can
underwrite their own self insurance policy for $380, which is in there. Three
hundred and eighty dollars.
Mr. Odio: Have to do is give you forty thousand... and the forty thousand
includes the - all the expenses in the Orange Bowl.
Mr. May: Okay.
Mr. Odio: Now you have to cover it. The rent...
Mr. Plummer: And you're... you're quibbling about $380?
Mr. Odio: No, I'm not. It's covered.
Mr. Plummer: My motion includes - no, no - my motion - we've not called the
roll. My motion includes expenses, not to exceed $50,00 You heard me. Now
you want to quibble again?
Mayor Suarez: Sin no more.
Mr. May: Thank you. And God bless you all.
Mayor Suarez: Call the roll.
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Mr. Plummer: No, no, no. I would rather the collar say that instead of you.
Ms. Kennedy: Wait for the roll call. Wait for the roll call.
Mr. May: Brother Paul, come on up.
Mayor Suarez: Call the roll.
Brother Paul: Mayor, we'll let you know who the devil is in a while, all
right?
Mayor Suarez: You're trying to figure it out, okay. Call the roll.
Brother Paul: Have you... you have voted.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved
its adoption:
MOTION NO. 87-476
A MOTION AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO
ALLOCATE $50,000 TO "COPS CARE - OPERATION HOMELESS" FOR
THE PURPOSE OF HOLDING A FUND RAISING EVENT AT THE ORANGE
BOWL ON AUGUST 15, 1987, TO COVER THE COST OF THE
FACILITY, THE INSURANCE, AND IN -KIND SERVICES IN
CONNECTION WITH THE HOLDING OF SAID EVENT; FURTHER
STIPULATING THAT SIXTY (60) DAYS PRIOR TO SAID EVENT, THE
ENTERTAINERS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED TO PERFORM ARE
CONFIRMED; FURTHER STIPULATING THAT ANY FUNDS DERIVED FROM
SAID EVENT WILL BE SUBJECT TO CITY OF MIAMI CUSTODIAL
APPROVAL, AND FURTHER PROVIDING THAT ANY MONIES DERIVED
FROM SAID EVENT WILL GO DIRECTLY TO THE HOMELESS WITH NO
ADMINISTRATIVE FEES.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Kennedy, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Brother Paul: Thank you very much. I'm... this has been a very big week for
me. I'm sorry that I wasn't here this morning to hear the discussions of all
of this. But, I want you to know that we are about to get things going to
relocate Camillus House and I think it's going to be satisfactory and I thank
you all very much for your efforts. And I...
Mayor Suarez: Make sure that every Commissioner gets a presentation of what
it is you intend to do on 5th Street or where ever it is you're relocating to.
Brother Paul: Yes.
Ms. Kennedy: We don't want to read it in the Herald and find out that way,
please.
Mayor Suarez: No one wants to be surprised, Brother Paul.
Brother Paul: Neither do I. And I just want to say that my 10 years of free
service to the City of Miami is now beginning to pay off; and I thank you very
much.
Mayor Suarez: Thank you, Brother.
Brother Paul: On behalf of the homeless.
Ms. Kennedy: Great. Thank you.
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Brother Paul: Thank you, good night.
Ron Sachs: If I could be allowed one brief comment, Mr. Mayor.
(GENERAL NOISE FROM COMMISSION)
Mr. Sachs: I just want you to know, as the person who is going to be
promoting this event, thank you for your help...
Mr. Plummer: Wait a minute, I want to reconsider.
Mr. Sachs: We want you to know that each one of you will have to buy your
ticket just as I will have to buy mine to this event.
Mr. Dawkins: Okay, Ron.
Ms. Kennedy: Now, now, Ron, no comment.
Mr. Plummer: You mean, if we attend.
Mayor Suarez: You waited til after the vote to tell us that.
Ms. Kennedy: Now you come... now you come and look at my office. Come on,
let me take you.
Mr. Sachs: And we will invite Rosario to do the tango like Mr. Carollo said.
Mayor Suarez: When you figure out what he's going to do at the function, let
me know.
71. CONSIDER PARK IN BRICKELL AREA
Mayor Suarez: Item sixty-eight.
Cheri Lynn Rosenthal: It's music to my ears.
Mayor Suarez: You are Miss Rosenthal who called because you said there were
260 kids living at Brickell Place.
Ms. Rosenthal: There's more.
Mayor Suarez: That's incredible.
Ms. Rosenthal: It is.
Mayor Suarez: There were no kids living on Brickell.
Ms. Rosenthal: Well, there's lots of them now.
Mayor Suarez: Where'd you get all those kids?
Ms. Rosenthal: Communities grow. What can I say.
Mayor Suarez: So young people moving back into the City of Miami, on
Brickell.
Ms. Rosenthal: Yes.
Mr. Plummer: Broken televisions.
Mr. Dawkins: Mrs. Rosenthal, don't let them deflate you because I've got 30
more minutes here so... I mean, don't let them stop you from getting your item
through.
Ms. Rosenthal: Right. Okay.
Mayor Suarez: Thank you, Commissioner. Yes, that...
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Ms. Rosenthal: I'll move along. Mayor and members of the Commission. As you
said, my name is Cheri Rosenthal and I live on Brickell Avenue. As a mother
and private citizen, I have a deep concern for the numerous and growing
children of our community. While I was petitioning for this proposal, many of
the other registered voters who were more than happy to sign this petition,
expressed their views and concerns for the tremendous needs of our community
lacking for a healthy drug free environment for our kids. This hearing
couldn't have come at a better time, being that this is Just Say No To Drugs
Week...
Mr. Plummer: Special taxing district.
Ms. Rosenthal: As a member of Informed Families of Dade, I too try hard and
volunteer my time to help educate the children and community on drug
prevention. Wouldn't it be a wonderful statement from the Mayor and City
Commissioners of Miami to help that campaign by offering our children a
healthy interactive alternative - sports. It's my personal viewpoint that if
people, as well as children, have some sort of constructive outlet, their need
for mischief, so to speak, will be lessened. I propose that the City of Miami
open and maintain a public park, with supervised activities for arts and
crafts, basketball teams, football games, soccer games, volleyball, etc. and
get the kids off the streets and out of boredom. Brickell area is growing
everyday and so is its community.
Mayor Suarez: I have an idea. We could call Bernardo Forbrescia of
Arquitectonica and see if he can design one on top of one of those buildings.
- Ms. Rosenthal: Right, it would be nice.
Mayor Suarez: You know, it costs two hundred and fifty... I think the last
sale over there was about $250 a square foot on Brickell. How is the City
going to find the money to build a park on Brickell is something that I - I'm
leaving to your imagination. I mean, I...
Ms. Rosenthal: Well, I'm going to give you some proposals. I'm getting to
it, forgive me. Where was I?
Mayor Suarez: Commissioner and my Vice -Mayor Plummer, said under his breath,
`i and it's an interesting idea, some kind of a special taxing district or
something, I mean... what possibilities...
Ms. Rosenthal: I'm sorry.
Mayor Suarez: To raise the funds. I mean, the bottom line is you could... _
to...
Ms. Rosenthal: Well, other than...
Mayor Suarez: ... put a park on Brickell.
Ms. Rosenthal: Right, there's very little property on Brickell. There's only
one - well, I'll get to it -
Mayor Suarez: Well, it's not so much how little there is, it's how expensive
it is.
Ms. Rosenthal: Right. It is. It's 8 million dollars for 3 acres, not even
on Brickell; it's on S. E. 14th Lane. Don't pass out on me.
Mayor Suarez: For a mini, mini, mini park - 3 acre mini park - 8 million
dollars!
Ms. Rosenthal: Well, there are...
Mr. Plummer: The question has to be, are you folks willing to tax yourself
for it?
Mayor Suarez: You know, our entire fund...
Me. Rosenthal: I can't speak for everyone.
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Mayor Suarez: Let me just give you an idea, Cheri. Our entire fund for
improvement of our parks...
Ms. Rosenthal: Is zero.
Mayor Suarez: Is 8 million dollars. Did you hear that all right? Had you
told her?
Ms. Kennedy: How much are they? How much are they?
Ms. Rosenthal: Oh, the 8 million dollars for all the parks.
Mayor Suarez: And she's thinking of a park on Brickell for 3 acres, you know,
which is needed. I didn't know there were that many kids there, I agree with
you. For 8 million dollars for 3 acres.
Ms. Kennedy: What item... what item are we on?
Ms. Rosenthal: Sixty-eight. The...
Mayor Suarez: Do you know what would be a great location? The former
residence of the former mayor of the City of Miami.
Ms. Rosenthal: It would. It would
Mayor Suarez: That was... sold for about four or five million bucks. -
Ms. Kennedy: That's worth about 7 million dollars.
Mayor Suarez: It's probably worth about 7 million dollars now.
Ms. Rosenthal: More than that.
Mr. Dawkins: Yes, but you see, you guys talking about acquiring the land; now
you've got to put a park on it. So you're talking about 4 million dollars to
acquire it, 4 million dollars to build it and then you're talking about 4
million dollars to operate it, okay?
Mr. Odio: They do... they do have a park...
Ms. Kennedy: Mr. Manager, what do we have?
Mayor Suarez: There is a mini park over there someplace, isn't there?
Mr. Odio: There is a park that they can go across the cross walk that the
county built on Rickenbacker that's a beautiful park right on the ocean.
Mayor Suarez: Oh, that's the park I go to; Alice Wainwright.
Ms. Kennedy: Oh, Alice Wainwright.
Ms. Rosenthal: Which one, Wainwright?
Mr. Odio: Alice Wainwright.
Ms. Rosenthal: It's very wooded.
Mr. Odio: It's what?
Ms. Rosenthal: It's heavily wooded.
Mr. Odio: But, I mean - that's...
Mr. Dawkins: Yes, but - okay - let me make a suggestion... I'd like to
offer...
Mayor Suarez: Commissioner, if I may just interrupt you.
Mr. Dawkins: Go right ahead.
Mayor Suarez: We may want to look at the possibility of having some baseball
or basketball, or something in that park. I don't think that's out of
consideration at all. Let me tell you, it would help to...
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Mr. Odio: Some recreation activities there and all. you have to do is go over
the...
Mayor Suarez: There's plenty of land at Alice Wainwright Park.
Mr. Odio: And then, you have Simpson Park that is right...
Ms. Rosenthal: Simpson is a preserve that I don't believe you can do anything
with.
Mayor Suarez: Simpson is, you know, really...
Mr. Odio: Okay.
Mr. Plummer: Leave Simpson alone. Right now, especially.
Ms. Rosenthal: Yes.
Mr. Odio: But, I mean, they do have that big park.
Mayor Suarez: I'd love to see a basketball court over there on Alice
Wainwright Park.
Mr. Plummer: You've got another park over there. You've got Douglas Park,
even though it's being proposed or talked about, it's right there at the
Metrorail Station.
Ms. Rosenthal: Where's that?
Mr. Plummer: On 12th Street, right behind the fire station.
Ms. Rosenthal: No, that's Southside.
Mr. Plummer: Southside, I'm sorry.
Ms. Rosenthal: That was one of my possibilities. I have three that I would
like to discuss with you.
Mayor Suarez: And you know, the only problem with Wainwright Park is that if
you live on Brickell, it doesn't really invite you to go there, you know,
there's no easy access across the causeway there, across...
Ms. Rosenthal: Rickenbacker's very dangerous for kids.
Mr. Plummer: Yes, but I think...
Mayor Suarez: Yes, very dangerous.
Mr. Plummer: ... if you even consider Simpson Park, you're going to have the
environmentalists down your throats.
Mayor Suarez: No, no, Wainwright, Wainwright.
Ms. Rosenthal: Are there any preserves - laws about that? I didn't inquire,
on Wainwright Park?
Mr. Plummer: Oh, Wainwright's is too far away.
Mayor Suarez: That's a good question. Very good question. Walter, is there
any... is that automatically something that would require all kinds of waivers
of...
Me. Rosenthal: Are there any laws...
Mayor Suarez: ... environmental...
Ms. Rosenthal: ... protection...
Mayor Suarez: ... laws on the use of Wainwright Park that you couldn't open
up more space there to... is there any of it dedicated to forest...
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Mr. Walter Pierce: (OFF MIKE) There is probably space there for a basketball
court.
Mayor Suarez: ...or woods?
Mr. Walter Pierce: (OFF MIKE) Those kinds of things ... (INAUDIBLE)
Mayor Suarez: Yes, probably you couldn't get a baseball field out of it
without really tearing up the park, but you could get basket... well, you
could get swings for the kids...
Mr. Odio: We can get a... we could possibly get a baseball field behind the
station, fire station 4 which Commissioner Plummer mentioned.
Mayor Suarez: Fire Station Four.
Mr. Odio: That is right across... south side.
Mr. Walter Pierce: (OFF MIKE) There are environmental problems in connection
with that park. (INAUDIBLE)
Mr. Dawkins: Why don't... I make a motion that...
Mayor Suarez: We could study it.
Mr. Dawkins: ... administration get with Ms. Rosenthal and look at the three
sites that she's recommending and come back and make a recommendation to this
Commission.
Ms. Rosenthal: Okay, fine.
Mayor Suarez: So moved. Do we have a second?
Ms. Rosenthal: Who's going to be contacting me?
Mr. Plummer: What was the motion?
Ms. Rosenthal: Who is going to be contacting me?
Mr. Dawkins: She has three sites in mind that administrations...
Ms. Kennedy: Second.
Mr. Plummer: Yes, that's fine.
Mr. Dawkins: ... go with her, look at the sites, and come back and make a
recommendation.
Mr. Plummer: But also, I think, administration needs to come back and
identify the vehicle of the possible special taxing districts.
Ms. Rosenthal: Understand...
Mayor Suarez: I think we ought to add that in too...
Mr. Plummer: Yes.
Mayor Suarez: ... because it... regardless, it would cost something to do the
improvements that you're talking about - that you're suggesting. Both by way
of access...
Mr. Plummer: You know, one of the problems we have now, okay, is we have too
damn many parks that are not being kept up and the reason they're not being
kept up is we have little parks that are just requiring all kinds of
maintenance and it detracts from the monies we have to spend to put programs
in major parks.
Mayor Suarez: Right.
Ms. Rosenthal: I personally feel that a major factor in the parks not being
used is that they're not supervised activities.
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Mayor Suarez: That's exactly what we're trying to accomplish.
Ms. Rosenthal: Somebody to just go into a park to walk around, what's the
fun? They want to have games to...
Mr. Plummer: Well, unfortunately, two years ago, the Commission was forced to
put more policemen, which we did, 400 more policemen - and every department
had to give up certain things. And the parks department, unfortunately, were
one of the ones that was hit the hardest as far as monies were concerned.
Ms. Rosenthal: Staff for supervision, you mean?
Mr. Plummer: And with the priorities that we set, we said the policemen were
necessary, so there's no question... yes, you're right, but...
Mayor Suarez: As far as prioritization it's recovering. I mean, the whole
parks concept, I know we have quite a few members of this Commission, if not
the entire Commission that want to spend more money for more supervised
programs in the parks.
Mr. Plummer: Sure. We all do.
Ms. Rosenthal: Great, great. So who am I going to be speaking to?
Mayor Suarez: Who, from the staff, there you go, thank you. Good old John.
Ms. Rosenthal: Thank you very much. Thank you all very much.
Mayor Suarez: Thank you, Cheri. We had sixty-nine. Do we need a motion on
that, I mean, do we need to vote on that?
Mr. Dawkins: Sixty-nine, we did sixty-nine.
Mayor Suarez: I'm sorry, did we vote on that?
Mr. Foeman: No, we didn't.
Mr. Odio: It was deferred.
Mayor Suarez: Please call the roll on that.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Dawkins, who moved
its adoption:
MOTION NO. 87-477
A MOTION INSTRUCTING THE CITY MANAGER TO MEET WITH
INDIVIDUALS INTERESTED IN MAINTAINING A SUPERVISED PUBLIC
PARK IN THE BRICKELL AREA TO REVIEW THE THREE SITES SAID
GROUP IS CONSIDERING; FURTHER INSTRUCTING THE
ADMINISTRATION TO IDENTIFY THE VEHICLE OF THE POSSIBLE
SPECIAL TAXING DISTRICTS; AND FURTHER REQUESTING THE
ADMINISTRATION TO COME BACK WITH ITS RECOMMENDATION.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Kennedy, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
FOR THE RECORD: NO ONE APPEARED FOR ITEM 70, SERVICE INSTITUTE.
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72. DISCUSSION RE HYDROFOIL (IN NEED OF LOAN) (See label 1k76)
Mayor Suarez: Item seventy-two, Stuart Sorg.
Mr. Odio: Before Mr. Sorg makes his presentation, I'd like to ask him when is
it possible if he can remove those two derelict hydroplanes over there before
the June 14th Hydroplane Regatta, do you think?
Mayor Suarez: Is that the hydrofoils?
Mr. Odio: Yes, that's two... they're junks.
Mayor Suarez: Where are the hydrofoils, Stuart?
Mr. Odio: They're sitting at the Marine Stadium.
Stuart Sorg: I'm going to bring you that, I don't have that right now.
Mayor Suarez: The City Manager has characterized them as junk, but, I mean,
where are they?
Mr. Sorg: At the Marine Stadium.
Mr. Plummer: Before you transfer Gene Hancock, I've got to talk to you. No,
but I've got to talk to you because I need to lock in those two dates every
year.
Mayor Suarez: Are they operational, really?
Mr. Sorg: True. One is.
Mayor Suarez: Why don't you take him on a ride and see if they really float
or not. He's saying they don't float. Maybe they'll sink and we won't have
to see him any more.
Mr. Plummer: I've only got one locked in now, I need to lock in two.
Stuart Sorg: Let me... I'm Stuart Sorg. I want to quickly bring you up to
date on the Navy program. I'm a couple of months delay on it. As you know,
the Saratoga was here. It was two years in coming. We may not be able to get
the Saratoga back in here again because of the anchorage problem and I sat
down with Commissioner Dawkins the other day. We've got to begin to push now
to deepen Government Cut. You don't realize, but it takes one aircraft
carrier is equal... one aircraft carrier is equal to twenty destroyers coming
in here and millions of dollars...
Mayor Suarez: You're cheating.
Mr. Sorg: ... we're now talking with the...
Mayor Suarez: It's not the item you have on the agenda.
Mr. Sorg: Yes, I know, but I've got to get this over... I won't be here next
month. Right? Okay?
Mr. Plummer: Speak to the hydrofoil.
Mr. Sorg: Okay. We've... in September - in July the Commission directed me
to go to Miami Capital to talk about funding for the hydrofoil, which I did.
And, after seven months, the decision was reached by Miami Capital that
because of the wealth and so forth of the investors that it wasn't a practical
situation. We've had another meeting with them...
Mr. Plummer: No, no. Stuart, I can't let you say that now, please. I got
to, you know, you're my friend, they're my friend...
Mr. Sorg: That's the truth.
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Mr. Plummer: It's not because of the wealth of the investors, it is, there
are certain criteria for which they can grant loans. If the investors are
pretty well to do, that's where the problem is.
Mr. Sorg: That's what the letter said. That's what the letter said they
wrote me.
Mr. Plummer: Okay.
Mr. Sorg: That's exactly what the letter said.
Mr. Plummer: Okay, but they requirements...
Mr. Sorg: I understand.
Mr. Plummer: ... on how they can and how they cannot loan.
Mr. Sorg: I'm just trying to stay out of the discussion on iL.
Mr. Plummer: Okay.
Mr. Sorg: What we've done is we've since then had another meeting and they
asked me and Pablo - we've had a meeting and we've talked about the by
bringing the request back in some capaCity. However, that's not a practical
thing to do and I met with Juan Del Cerro yesterday and Pablo and I have
talked. What I would like to do is, we've got to get the boats running.
They're ready - one's ready to go, it just needs about $30,000 to $35,000 to
get it going. They float - Cesar hasn't seen them... this is my proposal to
you - yes, but you haven't seen them in the water.
Mayor Suarez: I'm telling you, if he says they don't float and you say they
do, please take him on a ride. Maybe they won't float.
Mr. Sorg: I've got the video's running... but, what I'm just... this - this
is the proposal, we've got to get the boats going. I would like for Miami
Capital, and this is not making a special request, this is just making a
request that's been done in the past and approved. I'd like to borrow, from
the City, $35,000 for twelve months until we recapitalize the boats. I'll
endorse the loan. I don't want to take - I can't take the investors I have,
all their financial statements to the bank. We've waited seven months.
Whatever fair and reasonable interest rate Pablo comes up with is good. We
need the money in about - in 30 days. Let me finish this, Cesar. Let me
finish. All right.
Mayor Suarez: We do have a policy question here, Stuart. I mean that the
idea that you would borrow $35,000 sounds reasonable, as far as the amount;
sounds reasonable because you're going to guarantee it. I understand that
your financial statement is well able to stand a $35,000 guarantee. The
question is a matter of policy; should the City be involved in lending $35,000
to someone with your financial situation to fix up hydrofoils to do whatever
it is they are going to do, you know, as a business venture. And I'm not sure
that it's the City's business to even tell Miami Capital that but to the
extent that we have some influence over their policy making, should we be
doing it? I'm not sure that we should.
Mr. Sorg: This is not an...
Ms. Kennedy: See, the problem, Stuart, is that Miami Capital is really the
last resource.
Mr. Sorg: But this is not an unusual request.
Mr. Dawkins: But Mr.... I mean, Stuart, like J. L. said, you are our friend,
okay? If this is such a good idea, I mean, put your $35,000 in it. Don't
take ours. I mean, if you're sure that this is going to make money and pay
off, you know, as you say...
Mr. Sorg: But, what I'm...
Mr. Dawkins: No, wait now. You said that this is going to make money and
that we've got no problem with it, take your $35,000 and finance it and get
finished with it. Pay yourself the interest.
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Mr. Sorg: One of our investors has $60,000 in it and I just think - and
that's...
Mr. Dawkins: You, you... you're like my wife. You hear me but not paying
attention.
Mr. Sorg: I hear what you say, Commissioner...
Mr. Dawkins: Okay then, all right, then...
Mr. Sorg: ... but what I'm saying to you is that... we've been seven months
with this loan and all the particulars involved - it wasn't Pablo's fault -
but the same investors names were there in the very beginning. So, what I'm
just saying is let's... I want to get the boats running.
Mr. Dawkins: Okay. But he has said that his policy - the policy and
established rules and regulations of Miami Capital, does not permit them to
make loans to investors of your financial capabilities, whether you have it or
not. And that's the law, I mean that's their rule.
Mr. Sorg: But ask him if that's possible. Is it possible?
Mayor Suarez: Is that... have we more or less stated correctly what the
problem is, Pablo, or do we have other problems?
Mr. Pablo Perez Cisneros: Under the guidelines of the City of Miami, I cannot
do it unless the City of Miami, by resolution, in the case that I should make
this loan.
Mayor Suarez: In what sense the guidelines of the City of Miami? Because
they way we've been stating it?
Mr. Cisneros: City of Miami indicates to us in the contract that we're the
bank of last resort, therefore, the people that come to us would be those
people that would have a very difficult time obtaining monies from other
sources - from banks or financial institutions.
Ms. Kennedy: And you see, Stuart, you know I'm a firm believer of the
hydrofoil. We have been talking about the hydrofoil for years and I visualize
the day that we'll have a hydrofoil from the F.E.C. property to Bayside to
Watson Island, back and forth, to the Grove. However, you know, the problem
is a policy decision and Miami Capital needs to put their money in the areas
that need it the most.
Mr. Sorg: But the minorities are going to run these boats. I'm not going to
run them. All I want to do is get them going and we've... that's who's going
to run it.
Mr. Dawkins: How many investors do you have, Mr. Sorg?
Mr. Sorg: We have six.
Mr. Dawkins: Six?
Mr. Sorg: Um hmm.
Mr. Dawkins: And how much money are you asking?
Mr. Sorg: Well, we have... we bought the boats for $90,000 and the idea was
that we would come...
Mr. Dawkins: No, no, no, no.
Mayor Suarez: He was saying thirty-five.
Mr. Dawkins: Now you want... thirty-five? And six into thirty-five go six
times six is thirty-six - so let each investor put up six thousand dollars
more. That ain't no big thing.
Mr. Sorg: Well, it's kind of difficult. I want some help from the City which
we will pay it back.
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Mr. Dawkins: Well, I'm not... Mr. Mayor, this is one vote that's not going to
vote to override the recommendations of Miami Capital.
Mr. Plummer: It's really not overriding. It's a matter of policy. You know,
does this Commission... we, we've got some obligation here, okay? Obligation
is that we have asked this man through many, many different studies and, my
God, it's been around for - forever, to see if this was a viable thing for
this community. What is the problem if we put up the thirty-five thousand
with a guarantee from this man if it doesn't succeed, that we get the boats,
if they're $90,000, and sell them. I think - you know, Commissioner Kennedy,
yours was the asking of the experiment; to try it and see if it works. And
that was the strength they went on. I just, you know, I would be concerned if
there was not a way that the City could recoup its money. Now, we would have,
if we grant this loan for a trial test policy - who knows, this might be a
damn good thing. That if we grant this money, we're guaranteed to get it back
in the form of personal guarantees from Stuart Sorg and the boats themselves.
I think our greatest concern is that there is no loss of taxpayers' money.
Mr. Manager.
Mr. Odio: My only concern is that if this is such a good deal and if the
boats are worth $90,000 or whatever, why is it that - what's going to happen
when he starts operating? Who is going to fund the operations? They are very
expensive to run.
Mr. Dawkins: Not only that, Mr. Manager...
Mr. Sorg: No, that's... now wait a minute, no wait...
Mr. Odio: If they cannot afford thirty-five thousand dollars now, what's
going to happen when they put them in the water.
Ms. Kennedy: Okay, let us hear from him.
Mr. Sorg: No, that's not the point. The point is, the boats are the cheapest
boats to run possibly; the study has already shown that. The second thing
is...
Mr. Dawkins: But, now...
Mr. Sorg: Wait a minute. Mr. Commissioner, just a minute. What we need is,
we need to get the boats up and running while we recapitalize them and I'm
working on that now. But I can't do that until the boats are up and running.
I need six months time to get the boats ready and running. I need to move
them out of the Marine Stadium. Merrill -Stevens is waiting to get them so
they can start working on them and that's what's holding me up. And, once I
can do that then we can - Tom Post has just gone out and gotten one and...
Mr. Plummer: Yes, but wait a minute, wait a minute. Stuart, if we were to
grant this, I want to tell you something, we're going to put a stipulation in
there that no way can you encumber those boats to any other party.
Mr. Sorg: Nobody -right to the City.
Mr. Plummer: No, but I'm saying that to go out and get capitalization for 0
and M, that I'm not going to... I'm not going to let anything at all...
Mr. Sorg: Absolutely, absolutely.
Mr. Plummer: ... be encumbered on our investment.
Mr. Sorg: Absolutely.
Mr. Plummer: Now, if we have two personal guarantees that, in fact, says that
the City will not lose it's money, this Commission had a study done - we paid
how much for the study?
Mr. Sorg: Forty-five hundred.
Mr. Plummer: We paid forty-five hundred dollars to look into this. It was,
at the time, said that this was feasible or could be feasible.
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Mr. Sorg: I think Miami Capital can tell you that what we've got is feasible.
Mr. Odio: We always said, and I...
Mayor Suarez: Hey, let me, let me, let me - whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa - we've
got two or three items to get through, people have been waiting all day; it's
8:45.
Mr. Dawkins: That's right. Fifteen minutes, fifteen minutes.
Mayor Suarez: I tell you, I going to vote... I end up voting against this, no
matter how you propose it. But I will vote in favor, as a member of the board
of directors of a bank that I'm with, knowing your financial statement, that
our bank lend you $35,000 with your guarantee. At terms that might not be
quite as favorable as Miami Capital, but...
Mr. Dawkins: And I'd like to ask Commissioner Plummer one question.
Mr. Plummer: Sir.
Mr. Dawkins: In the event that the boats don't make it and he has to give us
the boats, how can we make - how can we get our $35,000 out of the boats when
he couldn't pay us $35,000 to run it?
Ms. Kennedy: Paddle, paddle, paddle.
Mayor Suarez: It's not - hey, hey...
Mr. Plummer: We can use them... we can use them in the police department and
chase down people that are skinning fish and...
Mayor Suarez: It's not.. Stuart, it's not going to make it tonight.
Mr. Sorg: Because...
Ms. Kennedy: With the eleven foot boat that we approved this morning.
Mayor Suarez: You got two - you got two alternatives; you retreat right now
or you lose. So.
Mr. Sorg: But, I'm going to endorse them personally.
Mayor Suarez: That's why I'm going to recommend it to the Sunset Commercial
Bank of which I'm a member of the board.
Mr. Sorg: I know, but I don't, I don't want to take the r...
Mr. Dawkins: I move. I move.
Mayor Suarez: Because I know of your financial statement and I'm going to
review it very carefully because I only heard it from Pablo one day.
Mr. Sorg: But I've got other stockholders that you're not going to get their
financial statements. And that's why it's complicated.
Mayor Suarez: No, I'll take just yours. From what I heard about it.
Ms. Kennedy: It's a good deal...
Mayor Suarez: Your guarantee would do it - my bank.
Mr. Sorg: How fast are you going to get me the money?
Mayor Suarez: I'm sorry, we could - if you want - somebody want to move it,
go ahead.
Mr. Plummer: Well, wait a minute, he's saying, how fast will you get the
money. He might withdraw his request.
Mr. Sorg: I want the City's money, because I want... because I want this City
to be part of it.
235 May 14, 1987
Mayor Suarez: That's what I'm going to vote no on. I might vote yes on my
bank's money if your financial statement looks like what I think it looks - I
don't understand why you can't get private financing for this and I have a
feeling that my bank will lend you the money. It's not my bank - but I
mean...
Mr. Dawkins: You said it right.
Mayor Suarez: Anyhow, I don't know, unless the Commission feels otherwise,
we've got four people up here, you need three positive votes.
Mr. Plummer: Hey, come on...
Mr. Dawkins% I'm leaving in fourteen minutes.
Mr. Plummer: ... you don't have to be a mathematician, at best it's two -two -
you lose. Go to his bank, you know. I'm not going to sit up here and commit
suicide.
Mayor Suarez: Which?
Mr. Plummer: You don't have the vote, Stuart.
Mr. Sorg: Yes, but Commissioner, Carollo's not here right now.
Mr. Plummer: I don't care whether he's here or not, you ain't got the votes,
so forget it. It takes three votes to pass.
Mayor Suarez: But I...
Mr. Plummer: Two have already indicated.
Mayor Suarez: ... don't want it to be, in any way, a reflection of the other
things that you're doing which I think you're doing quite competently.
Ms. Kennedy: Do you have a motion to take it to your bank?
Mayor Suarez: No, no, I'm not going to make that in the form of a motion,
really I...
Mr. Plummer: I make a... I make...
Mayor Suarez: The Miami Herald is liable or the Miami News is liable to say
that's not the way it should be done with private banking, I don't know.
Mr. Dawkins: We didn't violate no Sunshine Law we didn't discuss this.
Mr. Plummer: You what?
Mr. Dawkins: I don't know how you know he doesn't have vote, but I...
Mayor Suarez: Nobody's making a motion.
Mr. Plummer: You said you wouldn't vote for it, he said he wouldn't vote for
it; that's two against.
Mr. Dawkins: How do you know how she's going to vote?
Ms. Kennedy: I said it was a breaking...
Mr. Plummer: It makes no difference. If two of you are against. If her vote
and mine you're immaterial. You don't have the vote. It takes three positive
votes.
Mr. Sorg: I understand it.
Mr. Plummer: Now, you know - there's no violation of Sunshine to know that
two and two is four. State of Florida spends millions of dollars to put out
this book that tells you two and two is four. Of course those dummies up
there don't understand the difference, they don't... they just make the laws.
They don't abide by them. Oh no, no, no, they make the laws, but, by God, do
you think...
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Mayor Suarez: Item seventy...
Mr. Plummer: ... there's any sunshine in Tallahassee, it's all rain.
73. ALLOCATE $4000 TO GOLD-DIGGERS FOR TICKETS TO BE DONATED TO NEEDY INNER
CITY SCHOOL CHILDREN
Mayor Suarez: Item seventy-three. We're going to hear from the... in the
absence of a motion, I'm going on to the next item. Item seventy-three, Gold -
Diggers.
Gale Sosby: Mr. Mayor, Commissioners. My name is Gale Sosby. I live at 740
Coronado Avenue in Coral Gables. I'm here representing the Gold -Diggers, Inc.
which is a Florida non-profit corporation. The Gold -Diggers have been
established for twelve years, each of those twelve years we have authored,
produced, and performed a show at Gusman Cultural Center, downtown Miami and
we have donated the proceeds of the show to the Leukemia Society of America,
Southern Florida Chapter and, in the last few years, we have also been
donating funds to the Miami Childrens Hospital. We have contacted you by
letter of our president, dated May 4th. It's copied to all the Commissioners.
What we are requesting is a cash grant in the amount of $3100 to help us
subsidize the cost of bringing elderly and underprivileged children throughout
the county to Gusman Cultural Center to see our performance which was held at
the end of March - March 21, 22, and 23 of this year. We brought in nineteen
busloads of elderly. Last year we appeared before you asking for funds, as
well.
Mr. Dawkins: Mr. Manager, can you find $3100 for her?
Mr. Plummer: I'll tell you what, it's a fabulous show. I'll make a motion at
this particular time that we give you $3100 value in tickets and that this
Commission will give those tickets away to inner City schools who can attend
that performance who otherwise could not.
Ms. Kennedy: Second.
Mr. Plummer: I'll move.
Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded.
Mr. Plummer: Well, wait a minute. Why $3100? Why are you...
Ms. Sosby: Let me explain a little further.
here last year prior to...
Mr. Plummer: You'd better answer my question.
Ms. Sosby: Would you repeat it please.
Mayor Suarez: How much are the tickets?
Mr. Plummer: Why $3100?
Ms. Sosby: The tick... the $3100...
Mr. Odio: ... to provide transport...
First of all, I... we appeared
Ms. Sosby: ... is actually less than it cost us to subsidize the bringing in
of the elderly and children...
Mr. Dawkins: That's not what, that...
Ms. Sosby: ... last year, that' what that was the figure that was used when
we approached you for the money last year, because that was last year's cost.
Mr. Plummer: I make a motion at this time...
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Ms. Sosby: ... this year, it cost us more.
Mr. Plummer: You want to make a motion?
Ms. Sosby: No, sir.
Mr. Plummer: I make a motion at this time that the City purchase four
thousand dollars of tickets for this event - they're $10 apiece?
Ms. Sosby: They vary in prices.
Mr. Plummer: You'd better give us a break.
Mayor Suarez: Average.
Ms. Sosby: We will.
Mr. Plummer: Okay? That the City buy four thousand dollars worth of tickets
and distribute these tickets to the inner City schools.
Ms. Kennedy: Second.
Mayor Suarez: See, basically, we're giving you $4000 and we're just asking
you to reserve four hundred spaces over there.
Mr. Dawkins: She seconded. Call the roll.
Ms. Sosby: That... that's terrific.
Mayor Suarez: Okay.
Ms. Sosby: Can I... can I ask a question?
Mr. Plummer: No, no, no, no.
Mayor Suarez: At your own risk. At your own risk.
Mr. Plummer: I withdraw my motion.
Ms. Sosby: Go ahead.
Mayor Suarez: Call the roll. Whatever it is that we could do at this point.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 87-478
A RESOLUTION ALLOCATING AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $4,000
FROM SPECIAL PROGRAMS AND ACCOUNTS, CONTINGENT FUND, TO
PURCHASE TICKETS TO BE DISTRIBUTED AMONG UNDERPRIVILEGED
INNER-CITY YOUTH FOR AN EVENT SPONSORED BY THE GOLD-
DIGGERS, INC. AT GUSMAN CULTURAL CENTER ON MARCH 18-20,
1988.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here
and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Kennedy, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Mayor Suarez: Now do you want to ask a question?
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Ms. Sosby: I just wanted you to know that these would be for next year's
show, since we just finished our last one. So we will hold them for next
year, 1988.
Mr. Plummer: Well, look, let me tell you something, okay? Keep in mind the
future and I'm telling you that you give as many tickets, let it be known to
this administration at least 60 days in advance how many tickets, so they can
make arrangements for the kids to get to that performance. Okay?
Ms. Sanchez: We'll be glad to.
Mr. Plummer: Keep it in mind. I don't necessarily mean you're going to
charge me ten bucks. You're going to give me a whole lot of tickets for that
performance.
Ms. Sosby: We're going to give you an awful lot of tickets.
Mr. Plummer: All right.
Ms. Sosby: And we really appreciate your support.
Mr. Plummer: Okay.
Ms. Sosby: We love to see those children attend the performance. Thank you
very much.
Mayor Suarez: Take care.
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74.A REQUEST COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD TO DONATE SURPLUS FURNITURE TO CITY OF MIAMI
74.B DONATE SURPLUS FURNITURE TO HAITIAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION OF
DADE COUNTY
74.0 ALLOCATE $20,000 TO HAITIAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION OF DADE COUNTY
FOR ONE PARALEGAL POSITION FOR IMMIGRATION ASSISTANCE
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Mayor Suarez: Seventy-four. See you got appointed to a board and you came
here for a whole different reason.
Mr. Plummer: Three times in a day, my God.
Roger Biamby: Mr. Mayor, members of the Commission, Mr. Manager, thank you.
I'm here basically to make two requests; the first one will not cost the City
a penny.
Mr. Plummer: What?
Mr. Biamby: After the fall of Duvalier, we went to Haiti and we visited... a
number of provinces and we went to the - not the now superintendent of the
Dade County Public Schools and —we requested that the Dade County Public
Schools donate their surplus and obsolete furniture to us so that we can send
to Haiti to the schools that need them But the Dade County Public Schools
cannot give it to a non-profit organization. They have to give it to a
municipality. And because we reside - we operate from within the City limit,
we thought would be...
Mayor Suarez: Oh, that's all you needed today, for us to be the vehicle for
the donation from the school board?
Mr. Biamby: That's the first request, yes.
Mayor Suarez: Okay, I'll entertain a motion on the first one.
Mr. Plummer: How much is the money?
Mr. Dawkins: Nothing.
Mayor Suarez: Nothing in that one which is...
Mr. Plummer: No - the money - no... how much of the money is coming from the
school board using us as the courier? How much money?
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Mayor Suarez: It's - surplus furniture and equipment.
Mr. Plummer: Oh, it's just furniture?
Mr. Biamby: Surplus - surplus furniture and obsolete furniture.
Mr. Plummer: Fine. Fine.
Mayor Suarez: Moved.
Mr. Dawkins: Second - yes, move.
Mr. Plummer: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Seconded.
Mr. Dawkins: Move it.
Mayor Suarez: Call the roll.
Mr. Dawkins: You got a resolution. Read the resolution, Madam City Attorney.
Mayor Suarez: Do we need to...
Mr. Plummer: A resolution requesting the Dade County School Board donate
surplus furniture to the City of Miami, Florida for... HACAD.
Mr. Bob Clark: No, no, just pass it.
Mayor Suarez: Call the roll.
Mr. Plummer: No, no.
Mr. Bob Clark: Just pass that, and we'll get the next one...
Mr. Plummer: No, don't...
Mr. Clark: ... Her's HACAD right here, J.L. look it.
Mr. Plummer: You'd better listen to me, Bob. If you give it to the City, the
City is mandated to put it out to Sister Cities first, buddy. Why can't you
give it to donate the surplus furniture to the City of Miami...
Mr. Dawkins: Well - HACAD.
Mr. Plummer: ... for HACAD. I so move.
Mr. Dawkins: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Seconded. Thirded. Call the roll.
The following resolutions were introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who
moved their adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 87-479
A RESOLUTION REQUESTING THAT THE DADE COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD
DONATE SURPLUS FURNITURE TO THE CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA FOR
HACAD.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here
and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
RESOLUTION NO. 87-479.1
A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE DONATION OF SURPLUS FURNITURE
TO THE HAITIAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION OF DADE
COUNTY (HACAD), INC., WITH THE CITY MANAGER BEING
INSTRUCTED TO REQUIRE THAT ALL NECESSARY DISCLAIMERS OF
RESPONSIBILITY BE SECURED FROM SUCH ORGANIZATION AND THAT
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ALL COSTS IN CONNECTION WITH TRANSFER OF SAID SURPLUS
FURNITURE BE BORNE BY THE ORGANIZATION.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here
and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Dawkins, the resolutions were passed
and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Mr. Dawkins: Now the second part of your request.
Mr. Biamby: The second request will cost...
Mayor Suarez: I have a feeling the second one is not going to be as easy, go
ahead.
Mr. Plummer: That covers it.
Mr. Biamby: The second request will cost the City some money. It has to do
with the November 186 Immigration Act whereby thousands of Haitians will be
able to become hyphenated Americans within the next few years. To get the
process going, we need to have people to fill out the application forms and
those are very tricky forms and what have you. We need to hire a couple of
paralegals to help us in that 16-month program so that we can get as many
people benefit from the Immigration and Reform Act of 1986.
Mr. Plummer: The federal government allocated monies for that purpose.
Mr. Biamby: The federal government allocated monies to qualified designated
agencies whereby the $25.00 will be given to each QDE for - per application.
Mr. Plummer: No, no, no, no. Not $25.00; $181.00.
Mr. Biamby: Well, that's the fee that they have to pay to the INS for the...
Mr. Plummer: That's correct.
Mr. Biamby: ... but the INS will give each QDE $25.00 per application.
Mr. Plummer: Are you a qualified?
Mr. Biamby: No, we're not.
Mr. Plummer: Well, then, you've go to get qualified and then you'll get that
money.
Mr. Biamby: We - well, the applicants also have to give $75.00 to each QDE.
We cannot charge anyone, you know, a fee to fill out an application.
Mr. Plummer: Roger, if you are a qualified agency, you can. And the federal
funds are there. Now, to me don't deny your people that right. You can get
qualified immediately.
Mr. Biamby: That's really not the issue, Commissioner because we, in charging
$100.00 per person, and getting $25.00 for that... for just filling out a
fee - an application form - I think it's really taxing a community that really
cannot afford to pay such a high fee. In addition to the $185 per person, if
you have a family of four per family, it will be something like $420, but...
Mr. Plummer: But how do we, Roger, address the problem in every one of the
communities? We can't do that for the Haitian community without doing it for
the Nicaraguan, for the Colombian, for every community. And that's why the
federal government put form this money for the QED's.
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Mr. Biamby: But, that's only for the legalization part, Commissioner, not
under the Cuban -Haitian Adjustment Act - a component of the Act. There are
three basic components under the Act. There's a Cuban -Haitian component and
there is no fee for that. And there's a legalization component which includes
a farm work component.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Manager, what is your recommendation?
Mr. Odio: I have to - I - Roger is back - I have to recommend denial of the
funds.
Mr. Biamby: I'm sorry, I didn't...
Mr. Odio: We - wait - we're giving them...
Mr. Plummer: Roger, how much money are you talking about?
Mr. Odio: They - $40,000.
Mr. Biamby: We, - for 16-months, we requesting $40,000 to hire two
paralegals.
Mr. Odio: Well - well - right - right.
Mr. Plummer: We don't...
Mayor Suarez: I'll entertain a motion on one.
Mr. Biamby: Until December.
Mayor Suarez: I'll go for one paralegal.
Mr. Odio: He's getting...
Mayor Suarez: If you want to help him along.
Mr. Odio: We do not have money left in CD's for social services and we do
not...
Mayor Suarez: Frank will find enough money for one paralegal.
Mr. Frank Castaneda: No, no. No, Commissioners, the problem is that -
that...
Mayor Suarez: ... from the savings of the prior CD year.
Mr. Castaneda: ... for social services, we say that the priorities are food,
medical...
Mr. Plummer: This is not social services.
Mr. Castaneda: That's the only way it fits in under the community development
regulations.
Mayor Suarez: But Frank, and I know those are the priorities, but you can't
get any of those things if you don't even have legal status, so I...
Mr. Casteneda: I understand, and we had funded it in prior years when there
was...
Mayor Suarez: So I'm asking the Vice -Mayor to make an exception to that
priority and...
Mr. Plummer: No, I will not buy it under social services. We'll just give
them $20,000 for a paralegal and let the manager say where it comes from.
Mayor Suarez: All right. Let him identify where the $20,000 - I'll entertain
a motion to that affect.
Mr. Plummer: I so move.
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Mayor Suarez: Moved.
Ms. Kennedy: Okay, what is it now?
Mr. Plummer: We're going to give them $20,000 for a paralegal to help them
with immigration.
Mayor Suarez: One paralegal, to help them get along and...
Ms. Kennedy: Second.
Mr. Plummer: And Roger, every bit of that money and that paralegal better be
for immigration problems.
Mayor Suarez: You might be able to get two paralegals for that if you hunt
around enough.
Mr. Biamby: You've got my absolute guarantee, Commissioner Plummer.
Mayor Suarez: Call the roll.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved
its adoption:
MOTION NO. 87-480
A MOTION AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO
ALLOCATE $20,000 TO THE HAITIAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY
ASSOCIATION OF DADE COUNTY FOR ONE PARALEGAL POSITION FOR
THE PURPOSE OF ASSISTING IN IMMIGRATION PROCEEDINGS FOR
NEEDY HAITIANS.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Kennedy, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Mr. Biamby: Thank you.
Mr. Plummer: Go away and sin no more.
75. FIRST READING ORDINANCE: IMPACT FEES
Mayor Suarez: Item seventy-seven. Is that it?
Mr. Odio: That's it.
Mr. Plummer: What do you mean, seventy....
Mayor Suarez: Why is Dick Pettigrew been waiting here all day? What have you
been... What are you here for? Seventy-seven?
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, can I... before my good colleague leaves, or has he
left? I would like to pass the impact ordinance on first reading without
discussion, fully understanding that we'll have a full blown hearing on the
second. And this is mechanical timewise because if we don't move now, we then
are forbidden until July of 188. I so move S-1 at this particular time on
first reading only.
Ms. Kennedy: I second on first reading and let's put it on the agenda...
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Mayor Suarez: He's going to move the impact fee ordinance on first reading.
Ms. Kennedy: ...not at this time. It's always one of the last items, I don't
know how it...
Mr. Odio: Three o'clock.
Ms. Kennedy: Three o'clock, fine.
Mr. Plummer: Twenty-eighth, three o'clock.
Mayer Suarez: By the way, assuming it's passed, the various suggestions that
we have been receiving lately on different modifications we can make, make a
lot more sense than what we were receiving at the beginning. And I have a
feeling that we can, maybe make some adjustments and modifications in the
ordinance.
Mr. Plummer: Fine, fine, but if we don't do it, we're locked out.
Mayor Suarez: Yes, do you want to say something briefly on that?
Mr. Plummer: And that's been - the tactic that's been used all the way along
to lock us out by deferring, deferring, deferring. And Mr. Sergio Bad Guy,
what will that cost this City if, in fact, it be locked out until July of 188?
Approximately.
Mr. Sergio Rodriguez: Three million.
Mr. Plummer: Three million.
Mr. Rodriguez: Yes.
Mr. Plummer: Okay. You don't have to - you don't have to go any higher. I
think that speaks to itself.
Mr. Charles Rogers: Charles Rogers, Courtelis Company, Builders' Association
of South Florida. Might the Commission consider a workshop session prior to
the second reading in order to...
Mr. Plummer: Sure, always love workshops.
Mr. Charles Rogers: ...with the Commission.
Mr. Plummer: Sergio just loves to give up his evenings and Saturdays and
Sundays...
Mr. Rogers: No, no. With the Commission.
Mr. Rodriguez: With the Commission.
Mr. Rogers: In order to review in detail the issues.
Mr. Plummer: You are kidding.
Mayor Suarez: Just about every recommendation that I've seen coming down the
pike makes sense including some that have to do with projects already on line,
etc., etc. I mean, there's a lot of things that I think need to be modified
between first and second reading for myself - for my vote.
Mr. Plummer: Call the roll.
Mayor Suarez: Call the roll.
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AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED-
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA, AMENDING
THE CITY CODE BY ADDING THERETO A NEW CHAPTER 54.6
IMPOSING AN "IMPACT FEE" ON ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT AS
HEREIN DETERMINED IN ORDER TO FINANCE RELATED CAPITAL
IMPROVEMENTS, THE DEMAND FOR WHICH IS CREATED BY SUCH
DEVELOPMENT; SETTING FORTH FINDINGS AND INTENT;
PROVIDING THE AUTHORITY THEREFOR; PROVIDING
DEFINITIONS; PROVIDING FOR APPLICABILITY OF THE IMPACT
FEE; PROVIDING FOR IMPOSITION OF THE IMPACT FEE;
PROVIDING FOR THE ESTABLISHMENT OF DEVELOPMENT
SUBAREAS; PROVIDING FOR DETERMINATION OF DEVELOPMENT
IMPACT FEES; PROVIDING FOR ESTABLISHMENT OF AN IMPACT
FEE -RELATED CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM; PROVIDING FOR
ESTABLISHMENT OF IMPACT FEE COEFFICIENTS; PROVIDING
FOR CALCULATION OF IMPACT FEES; PROVIDING FOR
ADMINISTRATION OF IMPACT FEES; PROVIDING FOR BONDING
IMPACT FEE -RELATED CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM
PROJECTS; AND PROVIDING FOR ESTABLISHMENT OF AN
APPELLATE BOARD AND APPELLATE PROCEDURES; CONTAINING A
REPEALER PROVISION AND SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.
Was introduced by Commissioner Plummer and seconded by Commissioner
Kennedy and was passed on its first reading by title by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and
announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commission and
to the public.
76. GOING ON RECORD SUPPORTING THE HYDROFOIL TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM (See label
#72)
Mr. Plummer: I'd like to make a motion at this time that the City Commission
goes on record supporting and urging the hydrofoil transportation system.
Ms. Kennedy: Second.
Mayor Suarez: So moved and seconded. Any discussion? Call the roll.
Mr. Dawkins: The what? The what?
Mayor Suarez: We support... not to give them no money or get involved in it
otherwise. Just supporting it. The guy wants to take the thing, all right?
Mr. Plummer: I just saved myself thirty phone calls. Support and urge - come
on, please. No money.
Mayor Suarez: It costs about two cents to have the resolution drafted. Call
the roll.
Mr. Plummer: Okay? Call the roll.
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The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved
its adoption:
MOTION NO. 87-481
A MOTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION GOING ON RECORD IN
SUPPORT OF THE HYDROFOIL TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Kennedy, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
77. DISCUSSION RE BOND COUNSEL
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Mayor Suarez: Item seventy-seven. What have we got?
Ms. Kennedy: What do we have to do with this item, Mr. Manager?
Mayor Suarez: Why is this even before us?
Mr. Plummer: What is.
Ms. Kennedy: Seventy-seven.
Ms. Dougherty: Mr. Mayor, I brought this item before you be...
Mayor Suarez: Ah ha.
Mr. Plummer: The villain.
Mayor Suarez: Yes.
Ms. Dougherty: ... because the - the law firm of Broad and Cassel, one of the
three rotating bond firms that you had selected to be bond counsel to the
City, has resigned it's position as bond counsel. We would like some
direction as to whether or not you want to continue with the two firms that
you presently have or fill the vacancy.
Mr. Plummer: I'll speak for one. After it goes out through a full
discussion, let's go back and get a third one. Wait a minute, wait a minute.
This - this list ends in November, correct?
Ms. Dougherty: That's correct.
Mayor Suarez: That's what I was going to ask you.
Mr. Plummer: And those three firms then would be forbidden to be on the next
three?
Ms. Dougherty: However you determine it.
Mr. Plummer: What do you recommend?
Ns. Dougherty: It did not...
Mr. Plummer: What do you recommend?
Ms. Dougherty: ... the resolution did not have in it...
Mr. Plummer: What do you recommend?
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Ms. Dougherty: In terms of what?
Mr. Plummer: In what you're asking. Do you want us to have a third? Do you
think it's necessary? You don't think it's necessary.
Mr. Dawkins: Do you think we ought to have four? Do you think we need five?
Mr. Plummer: What is your recommendation?
Ms. Dougherty: I'm going to take... whatever you want to do.
Mr. Dawkins: She's going to take the fifth...
Mr. Plummer: I make a motion...
Mr. Plummer: ... that whenever the City attorney makes up her mind what she
recommends, she come back and recommend. Do you want to recommend? You
brought the damn item up now you resolve it.
Mayor Suarez: How did you - how did you all - wait a minute, wait, wait,
wait.
Ms. Dougherty: I'm asking for direction for the City Commission.
Mayor Suarez: How did you all of a sudden think of a scheme whereby you would
open it for four months, put a third firm in and then foreclose all of them in
future?
Ms. Dougherty: No - no one said anything about foreclosing.
Mayor Suarez: Ah, ah - I thought that was pretty interesting. Now, how did
you come up with that idea?
Mr. Plummer: I did not. It was my understanding that this was ... -
Ms. Dougherty: No - no.
Mr. Plummer: May I answer?
Mayor Suarez: He's - Chris is - Chris is smiling over there. Was that his
devious idea? I like that.
Mr. Plummer: No. Was it not the...
Mayor Suarez: You give somebody four month's chance to get some work...
Mr. Plummer: Can I answer your question?
Mayor Suarez: Yes.
Mr. Plummer: Was it not the intent of this Commission to rotate this?
Ms. Kennedy: Yes.
Mayor Suarez: Yes.
Ms. Kennedy: It was.
Mr. Plummer: All right.
Ms. Kennedy: Between...
Mr. Plummer: That's where that came from.
Ms. Dougherty: Between the...
Mr. Plummer: If you've got the three now, you know, it would be logical you
would get other three or not get other three. I don't know. What is the
recommendation of the City attorney?
247 May 14, 1987
Ms. Dougherty: Well, the City attorney prefers, and the administration
prefers to work with the same bond counsel. So we don't particularly want to
rotate it, that was your decision.
Mayor Suarez: Beyond three.
Ms. Dougherty: Beyond three, or beyond four...
Mayor Suarez: Or four or five.
Ms. Dougherty: ...but we like to write... we would like to work with the same
firms...
Mr. Plummer: The question really before us, the third counsel has resigned.
Ms. Dougherty: Correct.
Mr. Plummer: Now, between now and November when we would actually go about
this process again, do you feel that it is necessary to include - or add a
third or a fourth firm.
Ms. Dougherty: The answer is no. It's not necessary.
Mr. Plummer: Set's ended. Bye. Next item.
Mayor Suarez: Until November, right?
Mr. Odio: This Commission...
Mr. Plummer: Well, I mean if she doesn't feel that it's necessary, why give
anybody false hope?
Mr. Odio: Commissioner Dawkins requested...
Ms. Dougherty: There may - there may not be any further bond issues between
now and November anyway.
Mr. Plummer: That makes it even more sane.
Mr. Odio: Oh, God.
Mr. Plummer: Why did you bring it up?
Ms. Dougherty: Because you could appoint the same bond counsel again in
November.
Mr. Plummer: Okay.
NOTE FOR THE RECORD: ITEM 78 WAS WITHDRAWN.
78. DISCUSSION RE ALLEGED FAILURE OF CAPITAL BANK, NCNB, HEMISPHERE BANK AND
TOTAL BANK TO FINANCE HOUSING PROJECT FOR MR. BOYD AND MS. BLOCH.
Mr. Plummer: What's public housing?
Mr. Dawkins: Public housing is that I did some studying and I thought I
should bring it to the Commission. That other public housing, 52 percent of
it is located in the City of Miami and I just wanted to state a reason why the
public housing is in the condition it in is that Metropolitan Dade County
systematically enforced - did not enforce the City of Miami minimum housing
code and they allowed these housing units to deteriorate. And somewhere along
the way, the Dade County has to assume responsibility for this and it's not
our responsibility.
Mr. Plummer: I think that's what the Grand Jury is telling them.
Mr. Dawkins: Okay, so then that's - and I have a list here which I will get
to everyone of where all the housing units are located in the City of Miami
and that's all. No action necessary.
248 May 14, 1987
79. DISCUSSION RE HOUSING 1N OVERTOWN/PARK WEST AREA
Mr. Plummer: What about item eighty?
Mr. Dawkins: Yes, that's for my... somebody... where's...
Mr. Odio: From what I know is - Herb is here - but I know that Mr. Cruz still
trying to expedite it through Jacksonville and ---- has been through
Jacksonville and they expect to - Herb, When do you break ground - when do
we break ground on the first of the ---?
Mr. Herb Bailey: All four developers have indicated if all goes well, and we
hope so, that they'll break ground in July.
Mr. Dawkins: Okay. All developers - okay now, is - wasn't that the original
date in the contract?
Mr. Bailey: The original date we... when we... I think we did indicate that
we would break ground on July of this year. We were given twelve months from
the date of sign - of the approval of the development disposition agreement.
Mr. Dawkins: And what date was that?
Mr. Bailey: Ah, heck...
Mr. Dawkins: Okay, I'm ready to make a motion here.
Mr. Bailey: Yes, I forgot now.
Mr. Dawkins: I don't know if it'll get a second or not and what have you.
Anybody who does not break ground on the 15th should lose his contract and
start over because...
Mr. Plummer: Well, wait a minute. We set a date. What was the date?
Mr. Bailey: You gave twelve months from the date of the approval. We - we
just approved that I think about three or four months ago.
Mr. Plummer: So what are you saying?
- Mr. Bailey: We're saying - I think we're ahead of schedule based on what you
previously have granted us.
Mr. Plummer: They told us they were going to break ground this month - in
April.
Mr. Bailey: And it was not all their fault.
Mr. Dawkins: We did indicate that we were going to try to break ground in
April, but then the federal government got a little slow in the UDAC
processing...
Mr. Plummer: Well, wait a minute.
twelve months to break ground?
Mr. Dawkins: Right.
Dawkins, didn't we definitely give them
Mr. Plummer: How do we go back on that now? No, he's wanting to make a
motion if it's not done by July the 15th...
Mr. Bailey: Yes, it's going to be kind of difficult for that, but we're ahead
of schedule in terms of the original timetable that you gave us. But we were
granted twelve months from the date of the approval of the development
disposition...
Mr. Plummer: So, they've got nine months left.
249 May 14, 1987
Mr. Bailey: About nine months. All right.
Mr. Plummer: There was an actual date applied, as 1 remember.
Mr. Bailey: That was twelve months from the date of disposition agreement
approval.
Mr. Plummer: All right, what do you want to do?
Mr. Bailey: We're pretty certain we're going to make the deadline. We have
no doubt about it at all. In fact, we have... we know two developers have
already been financed. Absolutely.
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80.A BRIEF DISCUSSION RE REQUEST FOR NEXT AGENDA PORT BRIDGE ISSUE;
80.B BRIEF DISCUSSION RE REQUEST FOR NEXT AGENDA ISSUE OF BOUNDARY FOR EDISON
LITTLE RIVER AREA;
80.0 BRIEF DISCUSSION RE SCHOOL ZONES NEED FLASHING LIGHT
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Manager, is there anything on that further? Mr. Manager, I
want to make sure that on the next agenda, not on a Sneaky Pete, is the port
bridge and all related. I will tell the edification of the Commission. I
spoke to Mr. Lunetta this afternoon. I made it very clear to Mr. Lunetta that
if he wants that railroad track, he'd better be prepared to pay for it because
if not, he could be putting his bridge in jeopardy. And if you've ever saw a
grown Italian cry over a phone, I think he fully understood what we were
saying. Mr. Baretta is meeting with him tomorrow.
Mr. Dawkins: Also, I've put on the agenda, please, that I thought we had it
this time, to discuss moving the boundaries, whatever, the Edison Little River
area. I've got some complaints. They don't want to move it. I mean, I'll
talk to the manager, not you.
Mr. Plummer: Let me bring up one other brief subject, if I may, because it's
concerning me. Mr. Manager, I know it's not our responsibility. I am very
concerned in the school zones of this City. They are not adequately
demonstrated to people traveling down the street. I think they need nothing
less than a flashing light when the times indicated are, in fact, in force. I
am telling you that I am not worried about the police department writing
tickets on Tigertail, and I've not got one, because I want to tell you, I
probably would have been guilty four or five times. It just purely goes by
your mind because you travel that road everyday. I think that in every school
zone, that the times that those times are in effect, that no less than a
flashing light should be in there. I'm not worried about the tickets or the
revenue, I'm worried about the kids. I would hope you would petition
Metropolitan Dade County that more signalization is needed because complacency
has set in and it's not being effective. I would like to see a result ... the
report back of what you're able to do. Do we have anything else?
250 May 14, 1987
THRRS BEING NO 1PURTHRR $tMINESS TO CONS MORE THE CITY
CONNISSION, THE WING WAS ADJOURNED AT 9:13 P.M.
ATTEST:
!Natty Hirai
CITT CLERK
Walter J. Foomaa
ASSISTANT CITY CLERK
Xavier L. Suarez
M A T O R
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CITY OF MIAMI
DOCUMENT INDEX
N1 E7M MM- MAY 14, 1987
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AUTHORIZE SUBMITTAL OF GRANT
PROGRAM FINAL STATEMENT TO THE
U.S. DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING NAD
URBAN DEVELOPMENT FOR CITY'S
PROPOSED COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT
PROGRAM
ACCEPT BID! CENTURY RAIL AID FOR 8
IRRIGATION MICRO PROCESSOR DRIVEN
FIELD CONTROLLERS.
ACCEPT BID: E.V.F. INC. FOR
REFURBISHMENT OF SEVEN EXISTING
FIRE RESCUE AMBULANCE VEHICLES.
ACCEPT 13L1): TCCA PAINTING AND LAWN
MAINTENANCE CO. FOR GROUNDS
MAINTENANCE AT FIRE/RESCUE TRAINING
CENTER.
ACCEPT PROPOSAL OF MCF CORPORATION
FOR LEASE OF OFFICE SPACE (3000
AVIATION AVENUE).
INCREASE CONTRACT WITH OCEAN BAY
CONSTRUCTION FOR FORT DALLAS PARK
PLAZA PHASE II.
ACCEPT RENTAL REHABILITATION
PROGRAM GRANT TO INCREASE THE
SUPPLY OF AFFORADABLE HOUSING.
ACCEPT COMPLETED WORK: WILLIAMS
PAVING COMPANY FOR SILVER BLUFF
STORM SEWER PROJECT.
ACCEPT COMPLETED WORK: EBSARY
FOUNDATION COMPANY FOR DINNER KEY
MARINA - BOAT RAMP.
ACCEPT COMPLETED WORK: B.K. MARINE
CONSTRUCTION INC. FOR WAINWRIGHT
PARK BULKHEAD REPAIRS 1985.
ORDERING SILVER BLUFF HIGHWAY
IMPROVEMENT.
CREATE PANEL OF SEVEN NATIONAL
EXPERTS TO INVESTIGATE CHARGES OF
DISCRIMINATION IN FIRE DEPARTMENT
AUTHORIZE REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL FOR
SALE OF WATSON BUILDING
RE I IEVAL CODE NO.
(RESOLUTIONS
87-411
87-413
87-414
87-415
87-416
87-417
87-418
87-419
87-420
87 421
87-422
87-423
87-424
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ACCEPT AND APPROVE COMPREHENSIVE
ANNUAL REPORT FOR FISCAL YEAR 1986.
NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING FOR
ACCEPTANCE OF COMPLETED
CONSTRUCTION OF LANZO CONSTRUCTION
CO. FOR CITYWIDE SANITARY SEWER
IMPROVEMENT.
ACCEPT PLAT - BAY VIEW.
CONFIRM INDIVIDUALS SELECTED BY
BARGAINING REPRESENTATIVES AS
MEMBERS OF AFFIRMATIVE ACTION
ADVISORY BOARD.
CLOSE STREETS; ALCOHOL PERMIT;
PEDDLERS AREA FOR MIAMI/BAHAMAS
GOOMBAY FESTIVAL.
WISH A SPEEDY RECOVER:
MARIA JESUS BLANCO FROM
SURGERY.
AUTHORIZE DONATION OF BOSTON WHALER
VESSEL (BOAT) FROM PAUL KEMPNER FOR
USE OF POLICE DEPARTMENT
ACCEPT PROPOSAL OF AMERIFIRST
DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION FOR LEASE
OF OFFICE SPACE DOWNTOWN
AUTHORIZE EXECUTION OF POLITICAL
SUBDIVISION PROGRAM AGREEMENT WITH
STATE OF FLORIDA.
CITY TO CONTACT FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
TO TALK ABOUT POSSIBLE EXCHANGE OF
WATSON BUILDING FOR TEH U.S. NAVAL
RESERVE CENTER
CITY TO PREPARE A REDEVELOPMENT
PLAN FOR AREA BOUNDED BY MIAMI
RIVER I-95 AND SOUTH MIAMI AVENUE.
ACCEPT PLAT: WOLFE'S INDUSTRIAL PLAT.
ISSUE REVOCABLE USE PERMIT TO
TROPICAL CLEAR BLUE LAUNDRY
SERVICES FOR USE OF SPACE IN
OVERTOWN SHOPPING CENTER.
DECLARE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT PROJECT
AND DRAFT REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS IN
CONNECTION WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF
MARINE -ORIENTED RECREATIONAL AND
RETAIL USES AT S.W. 2 STREET AND
NORTH RIVER DRIVE ON THE MIAMI
RIVER.
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MAY 14, 1987
RETRE;VAL CODE NO.
(RESOLUTIONS)
87-425
87-426
87 427
87-428
87-429
87-430
87-432
87-433
87-434
87-435
87-436
87-437
87-439
87-440
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AUTHORIZE INTERVIEW OF THREE
COMMUNITY BASED NOT -FOR -PROFIT
CORPORATIONS FOR MANAGEMENT
SERVICES AT BAYFORNT PARK.
CLOSE STREETS FOR PARADE BY
RENOVACION CARISMATICA CATOLICA
HISPANA.
ALLOCATE FUNDS FOR "SUMMER YOUTH
EMPLOYMENT AND TRAINING PROGRAM"-
1987/JTPA 11-B" TO THE BELAFONTE
TACOLCY CNETER AND YOUTH CO-OP
INC.
AUTHORIZE EXECUTION OF AGREEMENT
WITH GRAN CENTRAL CORPORATION FOR
IMPROVEMENT OF N.W. 1 AVENUE.
AUTHORIZE LOAN AGREEMENT WITH GRAN
CENTRAL CORPORATION FOIL ACQUISITION
OF PARCEL. AT 104 N.W. 1 AVENUE.
AUTHORIZE ACQUISITION OF PARCEL AT
104 N.W. LST AVENUE, REQUEST CITY
AND/OR DADE COUNTY INITIATE
CONDEMNATION IF CANNOT BE PURCHASED.
AUTHORIZE CONTRACT WITH "M. BANK"
FOR SPECIAL DEPOSITORY ACCOUNT.
AUTHORIZE OFFERS FOR ACQUISITION OF
RIGHT PARCELS IN ALLAPATTAH FOR
DEVELOPMENT OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
AUTHORIZE OFFERS FOR ACQUISITION OF
15 PARCELS IN MODEL CITY FOR
DEVELOPMENT OF AFFORADABLE HOUSING.
AUTHORIZE NEGOTIATIONS FOR
ACQUISITION OF PROPERTY AT 2610 N.W.
25 AVENUE TO BE USED FOR AFFORDABLE
HOUSING.
AUTHORIZE OFFERS FOR ACQUISITION OF
EIGHT PARCELS IN WYNWOOD FOR
AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
APPOINT WILLIAM ALEXANDER AND JORGE
DE TUYA TO THE PRIVATE INDUSTRY
COUNCIL.
APPOINT CHARLES PEREIRA AND WALTER
B. MARTINEZ TO THE LATIN QUARTER
REVIEW BOARD.
APPOINT DARIO PEDRAJO, DANIEL
KIPNIS, AND ARMANDO PARES TO THE
WATERFRONT BOARD.
PAGE.,3 OF 4
MAY 14, 1987
RETRIEVAL CODE NO.
(RESOLUTIONS)
87-441
87-443
87-447
87-448
87-449
87-450
87-451
87-452
87-453
87-454
87-455
87-457
87-458
87-459
DOCUMENT INDEX
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APPOINT ROGER BIAMBY AND PATRICK
WHITE TO THE AFFIRMATIVE ACTION
ADVISORY BOARD.
APPOINT JAMES ARMSTRONG TO THE
AUDIT COMMITTEE TO REVIEW THE DADE
WATER AND SEWER AUTHORITY BUDGET.
ALLOCATE $2,500. TO PUERTO RICO
FESTIVAL COMMITTEE.
GRANT PERMITS FOR FIREWORKS,
PEDDLERS AND CLOSURE OF STREETS FOR
CARNAVAL MIAMI.
APPROVE BOUNDARY STREETS OF LATIN
QUARTER DISTRICT CO -DESIGNATION.
DEMAND HERALD CLARIFICATION OF
STATEMENT RE: CAROLLO AND SISTER
CITIES CONVENTION.
CITY WELCOMES SISTER CITIES
INTERNATIONAL. ANNUAL CONFERENCE
TO MIAMI.
RENAME MAGNOLIA PARK TO ALBERT E.
PALLOT PARK.
CLOSE STREET FOR THE "MIRACLE LUNCH
BRUNCH" ON BEHALF OF MIAMI
CHILDRENS HOSPITAL (BUILDING
OWNERS AND MANAGERS ASSOCIATION
OF GREATER MIAMI).
ALLOCATE $4,000. TO GOLD-DIGGERS FOR
TICKETS TO BE DONATED TO NEEDY
INNER CITY SCHOOL CHILDREN.
REQUEST COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD TO
DONATE SURPLUS FURNITURE TO CITY
OF MIAMI.
ALLOCATE $20.000 TO HAITIAN AMERICAN
COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION OF DADE COUNTY
DONATE SURPLUS FURNITURE TO THE
HAITIAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY
ASSOCIATION
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MAY 14, 1987
RETREVAL CODE NO
(RESOLUTIONS)
87-460
87-461
87-462
87-465
87-467
87-469
87-471
87-472
87-474
87-478
87-479
87-479