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OF MEETING HELD ON JUNE 11, 1987
(REGULAR)
PREPAno Br THE OFFICE OF THE CITY CLERK
CITY HALL
MATTY HIRAI
City Clerk
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INDEX
MINUTES OF REGULAR MEETING
CITY COMMISSION OF MIAMI, FLORIDA
JUNE 11, 1967
ITEM
SUBJECT
LEGISLATION
PAGE
NO.
NO.
1.
PRESENTATIONS, PROCLAMATIONS,
PRESENTED
1
COMMENDATIONS.
6/11/87
2.
CONSENT AGENDA.
1-3
6/11/87
2.1
ALLOCATE $20,000 TO HAITIAN
R-87-522
3
AMERICAN COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION TO
6/11/87
PROVIDE A PARALEGAL FOR
LEGALIZATION PROJECT.
2.2
ACCEPT BID: PITMAN PHOTO, INC. FOR
R-87-523
3
PHOTOGRAPHIC SUPPLIES.
6/11/87
2.3
ACCEPT BID: MIRI CONSTRUCTION INC.
R-87-524
4
FOR CITYWIDE STREETS IMPROVEMENTS —
6/11/87
BELLE MEADE TRAFFIC BARRIER
PROJECT.
2.4
ACCEPT BID: MET CONSTRUCITON FOR
R-87-525
4
ALLAPATTAH ACTIVITY CENTER PORCH
6/11/87
CANOPY.
2.5
ACCEPT BID: DELGADO PAVING FOR
R-87-526
4
CITYWIDE HIGHWAY IMPROVEMENT.
6/11/87
2.6
AUTHORIZE MANAGER TO NEGOTIATE AND
R-87-527
5
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ENTER INTO AGREEMENT WITH MIAMI—
6/11/87
1
DADE JUNIOR COLLEGE FOR DEVELOPING
THE LIBERTY CITY EDUCATIONAL
CENTER: FURTHER ELIMINATING THE
$100,000 CONTRIBUTION REQUIREMENT
IlIi
FROM THE COUNTY.
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2.7
SCHEDULE PUBLIC HEARING FOR
R-87-528
5
OBJECTIONS TO COMPLETED
6/11/87
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CONSTRUCTION BY WILLIAMS PAVING CO.
OF DOWNTOWN HIGHWAY IMPROVEMENT.
2.8
SCHEDULE PUBLIC HEARING FOR
R-87-529
5
OBJECTIONS OF COMPLETED
6/11/87
CONSTRUCTION BY RIC MAN
INTERNATIONAL OF EDGEWATER IGHWAY
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IMPROVEMENT.
�+ 2.9
SCHEDULE PUBLIC HEARING FOR
R-87-530
5
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OBJECTIONS OF COMPLETED
6/11/87
CONSTRUCTION BY LANZO CONSTRUCTION
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CO. OF FAIRLAWN NORTH SEWER.
2.10
ACCEPT COMPLETED WORK OF M. VILA
R-87-531
6
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AND ASSOCIATES FOR LOCAL DRAINAGE
PROJECT.
6/11/87
` 2.11
ACCEPT COMPLETED WORK OF H. & H
R-87-532
6
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PAVING. INC. FOR MIAMI RIVERWALK.
6/11/07
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2.12 ACCEPT COMPLETED WORK OF CAMPANELLA
CORPORATION FOR BICENTENNIAL PARK
WATER AND SEWER SERVICE.
2.13 ORDER BUENA VISTA HIGHWAY
IMPROVEMENT PHASE III.
2.14 APPROVE ONE YEAR EXTENSION OF
EMPLOYMENT FOR OSCAR T. DIAZ
(POLICE DEPARTMENT)
2.15 APPROVE ONE YEAR EXTENSION OF
EMPLOYMENT FOR EVELIO RIZO (CITY
CLERK'S OFFICE)
3. WITHDRAW ACCEPTANCE OF BID OF
L.O.P.C. LEADING OFFICE PRODUCTS
CORPORATION FOR OFFICE FURNITURE
FOR DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING, THROW
OUT ALL BIDS AND REBID.
4. DEFER CONSIDERATION OF $65,000
ALLOCATION FOR CRISIS COUNSELOR FOR
POLICE FOR POLICE DEPARTMENT.
5. EMERGENCY ORDINANCE: AUTHORIZE
ISSUANCE OF MARINA REVENUE BONDS
(412,000,000)
6. EMERGENCY ORDINANCE: AMEND "STREET
AND SIDEWALKS: TO REQUIRE SIDEWALK
IMPROVEMENT AND DEDICATION OF
PROPERTY FOR RIGHT-OF-WAY PRIOR TO
ISSUANCE OF BUILDING PERMITS.
7. EMERGENCY ORDINANCE: ESTABLISH NEW
FUND "HAITIAN CHILD ABUSE EDUCATION
PROGRAM FY 86-87" AND APPROPRIATE
FUNDS FOR SAME.
8. EMERGENCY ORDINANCE: ESTABLISH NEW
DEBT SERVICE FUND "HOUSING SPECIAL
OBLIGATION FRANCHISE FEE REVENUES
DEBT SERVICE FUND" AND APPROPRIATE
FUNDS FOR SAME.
9. APPROVE SUBLEASE OF MIAMI ROWING
CLUB DURING THE UNLIMITED REGATTA.
10. DISCUSSION REGARDING ARTICLES IN
NEWSPAPERS CONCERNING THE ROWING
CLUB{ REQUEST CITY MANAGER TO KEEP
COMMISSION INFORMED.
11. SECOND READING ORDINANCE:
ADDITIONAL CERTIFICATION OF CIVIL
SERVICE.
12. SECOND READING ORDINANCE:
RECLASSIFY FUNDING FOR "AFFORDABLE
RENTAL HOUSING PROGRAM."
13. DEFER CONSIDERATION OF PROPOSED
SECOND READING ORDINANCE TO
ESTABLISH A NEW CAPITAL
IMPROVEMENT PROJECT: "HOUSING
PROGRAMS ADMINISTRATIOW REQUEST
ADMINISTRATION FOR DETAILED
INFORMATION.
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R-87-533 6
6/11/87
R-81-534 6
6/11/87
R-87-535 7
6/11/87
R-87-536 7
6/11/87
DISCUSSION
6/11/87
DISCUSSION
6/11/87
ORDINANCE
10278
6/11/87
ORDINANCE
10279
6/11/87
7-8
8
8-10
10-11
ORDINANCE 12-13
10280
6/11/87
ORDINANCE 13-14
10281
6111/87
M-87-537
6/11/87
DISCUSSION
6/11/87
ORDINANCE
10282
6/11/87
ORDINANCE
10283
6/11/87
M-87-537.1
6/11/87
14-17
17-19
19-20
20
21-22
14.
SECOND READING ORDINANCE: DECREASE
ORDINANCE
23
AND RECLASSIFY FUNDING SOURCES FOR
10284
"FLAGAMI SANITARY SEWER."
6/11/87
15.
DISCUSSION REGARDING POSSIBLE
DISCUSSION
23-27
REVENUES FOR SOLID WASTE DEPARTMENT
6/11/87
WHICH COULD BE OBTAINED WITH
SPECIAL EQUIPMENT TO SERVICE LARGE
FACILITIES.
16.
APPROVE EMERGENCY PROCUREMENT OF
M-87-538
27-29
POLICE UNIFORMS.
6/11/87
17.
(A)DEFER PROPOSED FIRST READING
M-87-538.1
29-31
ORDINANCE TO PROHIBIT DOGS IN CITY
M-87-538.2
PARKS; REQUEST STUDY. (B)DEFER
6/11/87
PROPOSED FIRST READING ORDINANCE IN
CONNECTION WITH REMOVAL OF DOG
FECES IN PUBLIC AREAS; REQUEST
STUDY.
18.
FIRST READING ORDINANCE: ADS FOR
FIRST
31-32
DELINQUENT LIENS.
READING
6/11/87
19.
FIRST READING ORDINANCE: ESTABLISH
FIRST
32
REVENUE FUND: "INVESTMENT IN
READING
EXCELLENCE PROGRAM."
6/11/87
20.
FIRST READING ORDINANCE: ESTABLISH
FIRST
33
PROJECT "GEOGRAPHIC INFORMATION
READING
SYSTEM"
6/11/87
21.
FIRST READING ORDINANCE: INCREASE
FIRST
34-35
APPROPRIATIONS FOR "BAKERY ARTS
READING
COMPLEX"
6/11/87
22.
CREATE SPECIAL TAXING DISTRICT FOR
R-87-539
35
BELLE MEADE ISLAND TO PROVIDE GUARD
6/11/87
SERVICE.
23.
AUTHORIZE EXECUTION OF AGREEMENT
R-87-540
36
WITH SPORTS AUTHORITY AND DADE
6/11/87
COUNTY FOR CONSTRUCTION OF WATER
AND SEWAGE FACILITIES FOR THE MIAMI
AREA.
24.
ACCEPT GRANT FROM RICOH CORPORATION
R-87-541
36-38
AND ALLOCATE FUNDS FOR JAPANESE
6/11/87
GARDEN ON WATSON ISLAND.
25.
EMERGENCY ORDINANCE: AMEND SPECIAL
ORDINANCE
38-39
REVENUE FUND PARK DEVELOPMENT FUND"
10285
6/11/87
26.
DISCUSSION AND TEMPORARY DEFERRAL
DISCUSSION
40-43
OF CODESIGNATION OF STREETS IN THE
6/11/87
LATIN QUARTER. (SEE LABEL 037)
27.
AUTHORIZE AGREEMENT WITH JANIS
R-87-542
43-45
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JOHNSON FOR PLANNING SERVICES TO
6/11/87
UPDATE ZONING ORDINANCE 9500.
28.
APPROVE EMERGENCY CUSTODIAL
R-87-543
46-47
SERVICES ON INTERIM BASIS AT
6111/87
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POLICE ADMINISTRATION BUILDING BY
HOWARD'S PROFESSIONAL SERVICES.
29.
APPOINT LOU HUTA TO AD HOC MINORITY
R-87-544
47-48
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ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR MIAMI ARENA.
6/11/87
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30.
31.
32.
33.
34.
35.
36.
37.
38.
39.
40.
41.
42.
43.
ALLOCATE $1S,000 FOR RENT OF MARINE
STADIUM FOR POPS BY THE BAY
CONCERT.
CLOSE PARTS OF FLAGLBR STREET FOR
DOWNTOWN DESK DASH.
SCHEDULE PUBLIC HEARING ON PROPOSED
REVISION OF OCCUPATIONAL LICENSING
CODE.
CLOSE STREETS, AUTHORIZE ALCOHOLIC
BEVERAGES FOR 4TH OF JULY HAITIAN
CELEBRATION.
DISCUSSION CONCERNING COMMISION
CONTROL OF GRANTS TO CHARITABLE
GROUPS TO ENSURE THAT MONIES ARE
ALLOCATED APPROPRIATELY (SEE LABEL
#53)
APPROVE DISTRIBUTION OF LETTER FROM
FLORIDA LAWYERS LEGAL INSURANCE
CORPORATION TO CITY EMPLOYEES
OFFERING ENROLLMENT INTO THEIR
PLAN.
(A)ALLOCATE 6267,000 FOR COMPLETION
OF WORK AT MIAMARINA RELATING TO
WATER PRESSURE MALFUNCTION; REQUEST
FOR PROPOSALS ORDERED FOR PIER MA"
(B)INSTRUCT CITY ATTORNEY TO FILE
SUIT AGAINST GUILTY PARTY IN
CONNECTION WITH MIAMARINA WATER
PRESSURE MALFUNCTION.
CODESIGNATION OF STREETS IN THE
LATIN QUARTER DISTRICT (SEE LABEL
#26)
AUTHORIZE PURCHASE OF EQUIPMENT FOR
SOLID WASTE TO BE USED AT CITY
FACILITIES.
ACCEPT COMPLETED WORK OF LANZO
CONSTRUCTION FOR CITYWIDE SEWER
EXTENSION.
RECONSIDERATION OF RESOLUTION
ADOPTED PAST APRIL WHICH HAD
EXPANDED THE EDISON/LITTLE RIVER
NEIGBORHOOD TARGET AREA EAST
BOUNDARIES.
(A)SECOND READING ORDINANCES
INCREASE APPROPRIATIONS FOR
BAYFRONT REDEVELOPMENT. (B)
DESIGNATE NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS
PROJECT AS CATEGORY B; AUTHORIZE
PLAN AND DESIGN FOR PARK
RENOVATIONS.
ACCEPT BID OF DANVILLB/FINDORF FOR
SATFRONT PARK REDEVELOPMENT, PHASE
III VITH PROVISION; $25,000 GRANTED
TO FLAGAMI COMMUNITY CENTER.
•DMINISTRATION TO MEET WITH
COMMUNITY CONCERNING DOMINO PARK.
R-67-545 48
6/11/87
M-87-546
6/I1/87
R-87-547
6/11/87
R-87-548
6/11/87
DISCUSSION
6/11/87
M-87-549
6/11/87
M-87-550
M-87-551
R-87-552
6/11/87
M-87-553
6/11/87
R-87-554
6/11/87
M-87-555
6/11/87
ORDINANCE
10286
R-87-556
6/11/87
M-87-557
M-87-558
6/11/07
1
M-87-559
6/11/87
49
49-50
50-51
51-52
52-53
53-62
62-73
73-74
74-75
75-89
89-101
101-114
114-116
7 7
44.
(A)ALLOCATE $1,791,000 OF (13TH
R-87-560 117-125
YEAR) COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK
6/I1/87
GRANT FUNDS TO DESIGNATED SOCIAL
SERVICES AGENCIES. (B)AUTHORIZE
ENTERING INTO AGREEMENTS WITH SAID
AGENCIES.
45.
AUTHORIZE EXECUTION OF INDIVIDUAL
R-87-561 125-136
CONTRACTUAL AGREEMENTS WITH TEN
6/11/87
NEIGHBORHOOD ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
CORPORATIONS FROM 13TH YEAR
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT;
ALLOCATE AN ADDITIONAL $50,000 FOR
COMMUNITY BASED ORGANIZATION
SELECTED IN THE WYNWOOD COMMERCIAL
DISTRICT.
46.
AUTHORIZE ENTERING INTO A CONTRACT
R-87-562 137-138
WITH MIAMI CAPITAL DEVELOPMENT,
6/11/87
INC. PROVIDING $50,000 TO ITS
REVOLVING LOAN FUND AND $120,000
FOR ADMINISTRATION.
47.
ALLOCATE $48,000 AND $50,000 OF
R-87-563 138-141
THIRTEENTH YEAR COMMUNITY
6/11/87
DEVELOPMENT GRANT FUNDS TO JEWISH
FAMILY SERVICES, INC. AND FLORIDA
HOUSING COOPERATIVE RESPECTIVELY,
FOR IMPROVEMENTS TO ELDERLY LOW
INCOME CRIME VICTIMS.
48.
ALLOCATE $31,000 OF COMMUNITY
R-87-564 141-142
DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT FUNDS TO
6/11/87
THE BLACK ARCHIVES HISTORY AND
RESEARCH FOUNDATION OF SOUTH
FLORIDA TO PROVIDE AN OVERTOWN
HISTORIC PRESERVATION PROJECT;
AUTHORIZE CITY ENTERING INTO AN
AGREEMENT WITH SAID AGENCY.
49.
AUTHORIZE EXECUTION OF AN AGREEMENT
R-87-565 142-145
WITH GREATER MIAMI UNITED FOR
M-87-566
$100,000 TO PROVIDE SPECIALIZED
ADMINISTRATIVE AND TECHNICAL
ASSISTANCE TO CITYWIDE COMMUNITY
BASED ORGANIZATIONS INVOLVED IN
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS.
50.
EMERGENCY ORDINANCE: NEW SPECIAL
ORDINANCE 145-146
REVENUE FUND; COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT
10287
BLOCK GRANT 13TH YEAR, AND
APPROPRIATING FUNDS FOR THE SAME.
51.
AUTHORIZE SUBMITTAL OF AN AMENDMENT
R-87-567 146-147
TO THE APPROVED GRANT PROGRAM FINAL
6/11/87
STATEMENT TO THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF
HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT
REQUESTING FUNDS IN TH AMOUNT OF
$11,940,000 FOR THE 1987-88
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM.
52. (A)ALLOCATE ADDITIONAL $250,000 TO
M-87-568 148-164
1 LIBERTY CITY POLICE SUBSTATION.
M-87-569
(B)RECONSIDER ALLOCATION OF
M-87-570
$250,000 TO LIBERTY CITY POLICE
M-87-571
j SUBSTATION. (C) REAFFIRM ALLOCATION
6111/87
OF ADDITIONAL $250,000 TO LIBERTY
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CITY POLICE SUBSTATION. (D)
ALLOCATE ADDITIONAL $I50,000 TO
!!� LITTLE HAVANA SUBSTATION.
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53.
GRANTERS OF CITY FUNDS INTENDED FOR
R-81-572
164-165
FUND-RAISING EVENTS MUST AGREE IN
6/11/87
WRITING THAT EXPENDITURES OF GROSS
PROCEEDS OR PROFITS REALIZED FROM
FUND-RAISERS MUST HAVE PRIOR
APPROVAL BY THE CITY COMMISSION
( SEE LABEL #3 4 )
54.
SOUTHSIDE PARK TO BE REZONED FOR
R-87-573
165-172
ONCOLOGY CENTER TO BE USED BY LIGA
6/11/87
CONTRA EL CANCER.
55.
CONFIRM CONSTRUCTION OF SILVER
R-87-574
172-173
BLUFF HIGHWAY IMPROVEMENT.
6/11/87
56.
DISCUSSION CONCERNING THE SALE OF
DISCUSSION
174-179
GOLD MEDALLIONS COMMEMORATING THE
6/11/87
POPE'S VISIT IN SEPTEMBER 1987.
57.
BRIEF DISCUSSION CONCERNING COUNTY
DISCUSSION
179
TAX INCREMENT ISSUE.
6/11/87
58.
DISCUSSION CONCERNING RELOCATION OF
DISCUSSION
180-192
THE CAMILLUS HOUSE.
6/11/87
59.
ALLOCATE $2,500 FOR RENTAL OF
R-87-575
192-195
MARINE STADIUM FOR VICTORIA GILDRED
6/11/87
FOUNDATION CENTER.
60.
DEFER PROPOSAL FROM DINNER KEY
DISCUSSION
195-201
ANCHORAGE ASSOCIATION.
6/11/87
61.
ALLOCATE $3,200 FOR RENTAL OF
R-87-576
201-205
GUSMAN CENTER FOR "LET FREEDOM
6/11/87
RING."
62.
ALLOCATE $3,200 IN SUPPORT OF MIAMI
R-87-577
205-207
CITY BALLET FOR RENTAL OF GUSMAN
6/11/87
CENTER.
63.
(A)ALLOCATE $50,000 TO MIAMI DADE
M-87-578
207-209
CHAMBER OF COMMERCE; ADMINSTRATION
M-87-579
TO REQUEST COOPERATION FROM
6/11/87
FEDERAL, STATE AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT
TO ASSIST CHAMBER. (B)CITY MANAGER
TO SEND LETTER TO GREATER MIAMI
CHAMBER OF COMMERCE REQUESTING THAT
STAFF ASSISTANCE BE PROVIDED TO
MIAMI DADE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.
64.
DISCUSSION AND DEFERRAL OF CLOSURE
DISCUSSION
209-213
OF N.E. 31 STREET BETWEEN BISCAYNE
6/11/87
BOULEVARD AND N.E.2 AVENUE (SEE
LABEL 064 AND #70)
65.
SCHEDULE PUBLIC HEARING DECLARING
M-87-580
213-214
A HOUSING EMERGENCY.
6/11/87
66.
CONTINUED DISCUSSION AND DEFERRAL
DISCUSSION
215-216
OF CLOSURE OF N.E. 31 STREET
6/11/87
BETWEEN BISCAYNE BOULEVARD AND N.E.
2 AVENUE (SEE LABEL #64 AND #70)
67.
BRIEF DISCUSSION AND TEMPORARY
DISCUSSION
216
DEFERRAL OF ALLOCATION OF $4,500 TO
6/11/87
UNITED STATES OPEN TABLE TENNIS
CHAMPIONSHIP (SEE LABEL #69)
68.
BRIEF COMMENTS BY CITY ATTORNEY
DISCUSSION
216
CONCERNING CHARTER AMENDMENTS FOR
6/11/87
NOVEMBER 1987 ELECTION (SEE LABEL
#72)
69.
ALLOCATION OF $4,500 TO UNITED
R-87-581
217
STATES OPEN TABLE TENNIS
6/11/87
CHAMPIONSHIP (SEE LABEL #67)
70.
CONTINUED DISCUSSION AND DEFERRAL
DISCUSSION
217-219
OF CLOSURE OF N.B. 31 STREET
6/11/87
BETVEEN BISCAYNE BOULEVARD AND N.E.
2 AVENUE (SEE LABEL #64 AND #66)
71.
RESCHEDULE JUNE 25, 1987 COMMISSION
R-87-582
219-220
MEETING TO COMMENCE AT 1:00 P.M.
6/11/87
72.
BRIEF COMMENTS BY CITY ATTORNEY
DISCUSSION
220-221
CONCERNING CHARTER AMENDMENTS FOR
6/11/87
NOVEMBER 1987 ELECTION (SEE LABEL
#68)
MINUTES OF REGULAR MEETING OF THE
CITY COMMISSION OF MIAMI, FLORIDA
On the Ilth day of June, 1987, the City Commission of Miami, Florida,
met at its regular meeting place in the City Hall, 3500 Pan American Drive,
Miami, Florida in regular session.
The meeting was called to order at 9:03 a.m. by Mayor Xavier Suarez with
the following members of the Commission found to be present:
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
ALSO PRESENT:
Cesar Odio, City Manager
Lucia Allen Dougherty, City Attorney
Walter J. Foeman, Assistant City Clerk
An invocation was delivered by Mayor Suarez. Vice -Mayor Plummer then led
those present in a pledge of allegiance to the flag.
1. PRESENTATIONS, PROCLAMATIONS, COMMENDATIONS
1. Proclamation declaring Thursday, June 11, 1987, Miami Police Auxiliary
Officer Day: For their dedication toward making our city a safer, more
enjoyable community in which to live.
2. Certificates of appreciation to Wayne Blanton, Don Colbert, Robert Lopez,
Eddie Snow & James Torrence: For their continued support of the Miami
Police Auxiliary Officer Program.
NOTE FOR THE RECORD: The minutes of the meetings of March 13 and
31, 1987, were approved. ,
2. CONSENT AGENDA
Mayor Suarez: Items 1 through 19 comprise the Consent Agenda. Before we take
the vote on those items, is there anyone from the general public that wishes
to be heard on for or against any one of the items, number 1 through 19.
Mr. Plummer: I understand 17 has been withdrawn by the administration.
Mayor Suarez: Seventeen is withdrawn...
Mr. Odio: Yes.
Mayor Suarez: ... is correct. Thank you, Mr. Vice -Mayor.
Mr. Dawkins: Pull...
Mayor Suarez: Let the record reflect that no one has stepped forward from the
audience from the public.
1 June 11, 1907
Mr. Plummer: !love - move the Consent Agen...
Mr. Dawkins: Hold it. Pull three...
Mayor Suarez: Wait.
Mr. Dawkins: Pull three and eight.
Mayor Suarez: Commissioner Dawkins, three and eight.
Mrs. Kennedy: I don't have any to pull.
Mayor Suarez: While Commissioner Dawkins considers any other ones he wants
pulled.
Mr. Dawkins: No, that' all.
Mayor Suarez: That's it?
Mr. Dawkins: That's it.
Mayor Suarez: I know that Mr. Vice -Mayor, you want to try to end the meeting
today at 7:00 p.m. There's a real good chance that on the 25th I'll want to
do the same thing because we'll hopefully have the Secretary of
Transportation, Elizabeth Dole, here at city hall for a little function set up
by the Community Development Advisory Group and Maria Elena Torano and she
hasn't yet given us the green light on it but if she's available, it would be
7:00 p.m. if it's OK with this commission that we would break for at least an
hour. Hopefully it would be the end of the meeting.
Mr. Plummer: Well, Mr. Mayor, I think that's important enough that we should
instruct the manager not to have an agenda that runs beyond 6:00 p.m.
Mayor Suarez: For the - for the 25th, there's a real good chance that the
Secretary of Transportation will be in town, Elizabeth Dole, and that we'd
have a reception here at 7:00 p.m. so the agenda should reflect the interest
of this commission in convening - adjourning by that time.
Mr. Dawkins: If necessary Mr. Mayor, we may have to - if it looks like it, we
may have to take a one hour lunch break in order to accomplish that.
Mr. Odic: Yes, because it's a planning and zoning meeting. I think you have
some public hearings that have to be held...
Mr. Plummer: Yes, but just don't put any more on the agenda that we can't...
Mr. Odic: OK.
Mr. Plummer: ... conclude by 6:00 p.m.
Mr. Odic: I will do that. Then, if...
Mr. Plummer: They'll just have to be carried over.
Mr. Dawkins: And anybody requesting a hearing after 6:00 p.m., have to come
back in September.
Mr. Odic: Yes, sir.
Mr. Dawkins: July, I man. In July.
Mayor Suarez: OK, great.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, just for a correction, I said seven o'clock. I find
out that I have to be out of here at 6:30. Hopefully, we will be...
Mr. Dawkins: We won't miss you.
Mr. Plummers I know that.
Mr. Dawkinss OKO no problem.
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Juno ll, 1907
Mayor Suarez: OK, commissioner, are those the only two items?
Mr. Dawkins: Yes, sir.
Mayor Suarez: With the exception of items 3, 8, and 17 which is being
withdrawn, items 1 through 19 comprise the Consent Agenda. Once again, is
there anyone that wishes to be heard on these items? Let the record reflect
that no one stepped forward.
Mr. Plummer: So move the agenda.
Mr. Kennedy: Second.
Mayor Suarez: The Consent Agenda has been moved, seconded. Any discussion?
Call the roll.
Thereupon, the City Commission on motion duly made by Commissioner
Plummer and seconded by Commissioner Kennedy, adopted the hereinbelow
resolutions by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
2.1 ALLOCATE $20,000 TO HAITIAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION TO PROVIDE A
PARALEGAL FOR LEGALIZATION PROJECT
RESOLUTION NO. 87-522
A RESOLUTION ALLOCATING $20,000 FROM THE SPECIAL
PROGRAMS AND ACCOUNTS, CONTINGENT FUND, TO THE
HAITIAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION OF DADE
COUNTY, INC. TO PROVIDE A PARALEGAL FOR THE CUBAN-
HAITIAN ENTRANT LEGALIZATION PROJECT; FURTHER
AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO AGREEMENT
WITH SAID AGENCY FOR SAID PROJECT IN A FORM
ACCEPTABLE TO THE CITY ATTORNEY.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and
on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
2.2 ACCEPT BID: PITMAN PHOTO, INC. FOR PHOTOGRAPHIC SUPPLIES
RESOLUTION NO. 87-523
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BID OF PITMAN PHOTO, INC.
FOR FURNISHING PHOTOGRAPHIC SUPPLIES AND ACCESSORIES
ON A CONTRACT BASIS FOR ONE (1) YEAR RENEWABLE
ANNUALLY TO THE DEPARTMENT OF POLICE AT A TOTAL
PROPOSED COST OF $46,619.59; ALLOCATING FUNDS
THEREFOR FROM THE 1986-87 OPERATING BUDGET ACCOUNT
#291101-722; AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO
INSTRUCT THE CHIEF PROCUREMENT OFFICER TO ISSUE
'- PURCHASE ORDERS FOR THESE SUPPLIES, SUBJECT TO THE
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AVAILABILITY OF FUNDS.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and
on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
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2.3 ACCEPT BID: MIRI CONSTRUCTION INC. FOR CITYWIDE STREETS IMPROVEMENTS
BELLE MEADE TRAFFIC BARRIER PROJECT
RESOLUTION NO. 81-524
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BID OF MIRI CONSTRUCTION,
INC. IN THE PROPOSED AMOUNT OF $589447.00, TOTAL BID
OF THE PROPOSAL, FOR CITYWIDE STREETS IMPROVEMENTS -
BELLE MEADE TRAFFIC BARRIER PROJECT: WITH MONIES
THEREFOR ALLOCATED FROM "CITYWIDE STREET
IMPROVEMENTS - FY 187" ACCOUNT, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS
ORDINANCE NO. 10187, PROJECT NO. 341152 IN THE
AMOUNT OF $58,447.00 TO COVER THE CONTRACT COST;
AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT
WITH SAID FIRM.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and
on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
2.4 ACCEPT BID: MET CONSTRUCTION FOR ALLAPATTAH ACTIVITY CENTER PORCH CANOPY
RESOLUTION NO. 87-525
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BID OF MET CONSTRUCTION,
INC. IN THE PROPOSED AMOUNT OF $25,387.00 BASE BID
OF THE PROPOSAL, FOR ALLAPATTAH ACTIVITY CENTER -
PORCH CANOPY (SECOND BIDDING); WITH MONIES THEREFOR
ALLOCATED FROM THE GENERAL APPROPRIATIONS ORDINANCE
NO. 10150, PROJECT NO. 450301-772 IN THE AMOUNT OF
$25,387.00 TO COVER THE CONTRACT COST; AND
AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT
WITH SAID FIRM.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and
on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
2.5 ACCEPT BID: DELGADO PAVING FOR CITYWIDE HIGHWAY IMPROVEMENT
RESOLUTION NO. 87-526
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BID OF DELGADO PAVING,
INC. IN THE PROPOSED AMOUNT OF $668,034.68, TOTAL
BID OF THE PROPOSAL, FOR CITYWIDE HIGHWAY
IMPROVEMENT - PHASE IV B-4526; WITH MONIES THEREFOR
ALLOCATED FROM THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS ORDINANCE
NO. 10167, PROJECT NO. 341152 IN THE AMOUNT OF
$668,034.68 TO COVER THE CONTRACT COST; AND
AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT
WITH SAID FIRM; DIRECTING THE CITY CLERK TO PUBLISH
A NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING FOR OBJECTIONS TO THE
ACCEPTANCE BY THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE COMPLETED
CONSTRUCTION BY DELGADO PAVING, INC. OF CITYWIDE
HIGHWAY IMPROVEMENT - PHASE IV UPON SATISFACTORY
COMPLETION OF SAID CONSTRUCTION.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and
on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
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2.6 AUTHORIZE !TANAGER TO NEGOTIATE AND ENTER INTO AGREEMENT WITH MIAMI-DADE
JUNIOR COLLEGE FOR DEVELOPING THE LIBERTY CITY EDUCATIONAL CENTER;
FURTHER ELIMINATING THE $500,000 CONTRIBUTION REQUIREMENT FROM THE
COUNTY
RESOLUTION NO. 87-527
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO
NEGOTIATE AND ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT, IN A FORM
ACCEPTABLE TO THE CITY ATTORNEY, WITH MIAMI-DADE
COMMUNITY COLLEGE, FOR THE PURPOSE OF DEVELOPING THE
LIBERTY CITY EDUCATIONAL CENTER; WITH SAID
ALLOCATION OF FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS
($500,000) APPROPRIATED BY ORDINANCE NO. 9991 OF THE
ELEVENTH (11TH) YEAR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK
GRANT PROGRAM FUND; FURTHER ELIMINATING THE CASH
CONTRIBUTION REQUIREMENT OF FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND
DOLLARS ($SOO,000) FROM METROPOLITAN DADE COUNTY AND
DADE COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and
on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
2.7 SCHEDULE PUBLIC HEARING FOR OBJECTIONS TO COMPLETED CONSTRUCTION BY
WILLIAMS PAVING CO. OF DOWNTOWN HIGHWAY IMPROVEMENT
RESOLUTION NO. 87-528
A RESOLUTION DIRECTING THE CITY CLERK TO PUBLISH A
NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING FOR OBJECTIONS TO THE
ACCEPTANCE BY THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE COMPLETED
CONSTRUCTION BY WILLIAMS PAVING CO., INC. OF
DOWNTOWN HIGHWAY IMPROVEMENT PHASE I IN DOWNTOWN
HIGHWAY IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT PHASE I H-4498
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and
on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
2.8 SCHEDULE PUBLIC HEARING FOR OBJECTIONS OF COMPLETED CONSTRUCTION BY RIC
MAN INTERNATIONAL OF EDGEWATER HIGHWAY IMPROVEMENT
RESOLUTION NO. 87-529
A RESOLUTION DIRECTING THE CITY CLERK TO PUBLISH A
NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING FOR OBJECTIONS TO THE
ACCEPTANCE BY THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE COMPLETED
CONSTRUCTION BY RIC MAN INTERNATIONAL, INC. OF
EDGEWATER HIGHWAY IMPROVEMENT IN EDGEWATER HIGHWAY
IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT H-4496.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and
on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
2.9 SCHEDULE PUBLIC HEARING FOR OBJECTIONS OF COMPLETED CONSTRUCTION BY
LANZO CONSTRUCTION CO. OF FAIRLAWN NORTH SEWER
RESOLUTION NO. 87-530
A RESOLUTION DIRECTING THE CITY CLERK TO PUBLISH A
NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING FOR OBJECTIONS TO THE
ACCEPTANCE BY THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE COMPLETED
CONSTRUCTION BY LANZO CONSTRUCTION CO. OF FAIRLAWN
NORTH SANITARY SEWER IMPROVEMENT IN FAIRLAWN NORTH
SANITARY SEVER IM'PROVEHENT DISTRICT SR-5491
(CENTERLINE SEVER).
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and
on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
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2.10 ACCEPT COMPLETED WORK OF M. VILLA AND ASSOCIATES FOR LOCAL DRAINAGE
PROJECT
RESOLUTION NO. 87-531
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE COMPLETED WORK OF M. VILA
& ASSOCIATES, INC. AT A TOTAL COST OF $547,456.31
FOR LOCAL DRAINAGE PROJECT E-55 C.I.P. PROJECT NO.
352180 AND AUTHORIZING A FINAL PAYMENT OF $29,919.56
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and
on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
2.11 ACCEPT COMPLETED WORK OF H & R PAVING, INC. FOR MIAMI RIVERWALK
RESOLUTION NO. 87-532
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE COMPLETED WORK OF H. & R.
PAVING, INC. AT A TOTAL COST OF $55,995.00 FOR MIAMI
RIVERWALK PHASE II C.I.P. PROJECT NO. 331052 AND
AUTHORIZING A FINAL PAYMENT OF $5,599.50
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and
on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
2.12 ACCEPT COMPLETED WORK OF CAMPANELLA CORPORATION FOR BICENTENNIAL PARK
WATER AND SEWER SERVICE
RESOLUTION NO. 87-533
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE COMPLETED WORK OF
CAMPANELLA CORPORATION AT A TOTAL COST OF $64,336.15
FOR BICENTENNIAL PARK WATER & SEWER SERVICE - 1986
C.I.P. PROJECT NO. 413003; AUTHORIZING AN INCREASE
IN DECEMBER 23, 1986 CONTRACT WITH CAMPANELLA
CORPORATION FOR SAID WORK IN THE NET AMOUNT OF
$2,381.15 AND AUTHORIZING A FINAL PAYMENT OF
$6,811.15
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and
on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
2.13 ORDER BUENA VISTA HIGHWAY IMPROVEMENT PHASE III
RESOLUTION NO. 87-534
A RESOLUTION ORDERING BUENA VISTA HIGHWAY
IMPROVEMENT - PHASE III H-4531 AND DESIGNATING THE
PROPERTY AGAINST WHICH SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS SHALL BE
MADE FOR A PORTION OF THE COST THEREOF AS BUENA
VISTA HIGHWAY IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT - PHASE III H-
4531.
(Here follows body- of resolution, omitted here and
on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
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2.14 APPROVE ONE YEAR EXTENSION OF EMPLOYMENT FOR OSCAR T. DIAZ (POLICE
DEPARTMENT)
RESOLUTION NO. 87-535
A RESOLUTION APPROVING A ONE (1) YEAR EXTENSION OF
EMPLOYMENT PAST THE AGE OF 76 FOR OSCAR T. DIAZ,
PROPERTY SPECIALIST I, DEPARTMENT OF POLICE,
EFFECTIVE FEBRUARY 1, 1987, THROUGH JANUARY 31,
1988, WITH THE PROVISION THAT IN THE EVENT OF A ROLL
BACK OR LAYOFF, OSCAR T. DIAZ' PHYSICAL CONDITION
SHALL BE REEVALUATED TO DETERMINE IF HIS CONDITION
IS SATISFACTORY FOR CONTINUED EMPLOYMENT; FURTHER
PROVIDING THAT ALL FUTURE REQUESTS FOR EXTENSION OF
EMPLOYMENT BE BROUGHT BEFORE THE COMMISSION ON A
YEARLY BASIS FOR ITS REVIEW.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and
on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
2.15 APPROVE ONE YEAR EXTENSION OF EMPLOYMENT FOR EVELIO RIZO (CITY CLERK'S
OFFICE)
RESOLUTION NO. 87-536
A RESOLUTION APPROVING A ONE (1) YEAR EXTENSION OF
EMPLOYMENT PAST THE AGE OF 70 FOR EVELIO RIZO,
TYPIST CLERK II, CITY CLERK'S OFFICE, EFFECTIVE MAY
11, 1987, THROUGH MAY 10, 1988, WITH THE PROVISION
THAT IN THE EVENT OF A ROLL BACK OR LAYOFF, EVELIO
RIZO'S PHYSICAL CONDITION SHALL BE REEVALUATED TO
DETERMINE IF HIS CONDITION IS SATISFACTORY FOR
CONTINUED EMPLOYMENT; FURTHER PROVIDING THAT ALL
FUTURE REQUESTS FOR EXTENSION OF EMPLOYMENT BE
BROUGHT BEFORE THE COMMISSION ON A YEARLY BASIS FOR
ITS REVIEW.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and
on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
3. WITHDRAW ACCEPTANCE OF BID OF L.O.P.C. LEADING OFFICE PRODUCTS
CORPORATION FOR OFFICE FURNITURE FOR DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING; THROW OUT ALL
BIDS AND REBID
Mayor Suarez: Item three.
Mr. Dawkins: Item three, Mr. Manager.
Mr. Odio: Yes, sir.
Mr. Dawkins: I see here where you sent out all kind of bids to minority firms
and no minority firms responded. OK? Then, when I turn over inside the
package and I read and it says, reason for non bids - no bids were as follows:
Office Security said that no cross reference ability with the specified
manufacturer. Number two, international Purchases of Interior, Inc., we do
not represent the manufacturer specified. M. Haddock, my supplier John Ruff
Is bidding and so - A b C Stationers, not a steelclass dealer or comparative
manufacturer. Five, Unique Furnishing, Ltd., unable to meet specifications.
Number six, Tab Products, not a steelcase vendor.
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Mr. Odio: Mr. Commissioner, may I suggest that we withdraw this item and
rebid, and, and...
z�Mr. Dawkins: I would hope so, sir...
Mr. Odio: Yes, sir.
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Mr. Dawkins: ... because this - we have put out a bid that excluded everybody
but a certain dealer.
Mr. Odic: We will, we will...
Mr. Dawkins: OK, thank you.
Mr. Odic: ... look at it again.
Mr. Dawkins: All right.
Mayor Suarez: It's not unique furniture or anything that we...
Mr. Odio: I'm in no hurry to buy furniture anyway, Mr. Mayor.
go ahead and rebid.
Mayor Suarez: OK.
Mr. Plummer: You're withdrawing three?
Mr. Odic: Yes, sir.
Mayor Suarez: Item three has been withdrawn.
So we'll just
4. DEFER CONSIDERATION OF $65,000 ALLOCATION FOR CRISIS COUNSELOR FOR POLICE
DEPARTMENT
Mr. Dawkins: All right. Number eight.
Mayor Suarez: Item eight.
Mr. Dawkins: Number eight. Who is Melvin E. Self?
Mr. Odic: Sir, Commissioner, I have nobody here from the police department.
I'd like to withdraw this item also and they will have to come back the next
meeting and explain it. I'd like to withdraw this item.
Mr. Dawkins: OK, thank...
Mr. Plummer: When you bring it back, I would like to know if it was put out
for any kind of a bid.
Mr. Odio: Yes, sir.
Mr. Dawkins: OK. Thank you.
S. EMERGENCY ORDINANCE: AUTHORIZE ISSUANCE OF MARINA REVENUE BONDS
($12,000,000)
Mr. Plummer: The Mayor's not here, we can't do item 20. Oh, I'm sorry.
Mayor Suarez: Item twenty.
Mr. Plummer: No, we can't do - we can't do twenty, twenty-one, or twenty-two,
or twenty-three unless we have a unanimous vote. Commissioner Carollo is not
here.
Mayor Suarez: Let as get a feel from the commission as to whether they have
any problems with say of those.
Mr. Plummer: I have no problem with any of those four. Fine with me.
Mr. Dawkins: OK, I save than.
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Mr. Plummer: I move item twenty.
Mr. Dawkins: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded. Read the ordinance.
Mr. Dawkins: Under discussion.
Mr. Plummer: Wait a minute.
Mayor Suarez: I'm sorry.
Mr. Plummer: Justify the emergency for the record.
Mayor Suarez: What's the emergency, Mr. City Manager?
Mr. Dawkins: Go ahead, tell the emergency.
Mr. Carlos Garcia: Mr Vice -Mayor, I believe we are ready to award a contract
for the construction of the piers and I would also like the City
Commission....
Mr. Plummer: You know Carlos, you're much better off when you ask a question
and a yes or no answer will suffice. Mr. Mel Reese had a theory around city
hall that I wish others would learn. You never have to eat words you don't
may. Justify the emergency.
Mayor Suarez: Well, what do you want him to say? Just yes or no to an
emergency? I mean he's got to explain what the emergency is.
Mr. Odio: We have to award the contract right away and we have to save
interest monies.
Mr. Plummer: Thank you, sir. That's for the record. Now, you'd like to say
something?
Mr. Garcia: If I may.
Mr. Plummer: Sure.
Mr. Garcia: I also would like the City Commission to give us authority to
look into other possible ways of financing the marina which may be more
advantageous to the city.
Mr. Plummer: If you don't do it, I would be upset.
Mr. Dawkins: OK, number - and I'd like to say, the 12
million dollar bond -
12 million dollars worth of bonds that you sell, do not do anything with the
excess money till you bring it back to this commission.
I want it earmarked
and pushed to the side. I don't want it to go to Bayf ront Park. I don't want
It to go to the inner city parks. I don't want it to go
no where but marinas.
Mr. Odio: We cannot use it except for the Dinner Key Marina.
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it without bringing it
s, back before this commission.
{ Mr. Garcia: That's right.
Mr. Plummer: In the future, ady time you bring back
an expenditure from a
' bond issue, I will require that you give me what has
been spent out of the
bond, how much is going to be spent now and what is
the remaining balance
a, including interest. I will want that in the future
on every item that is
approved that is a bond issue.
a Mr. Garcia: That's clear.
Mr. Plummer: Thank you.
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Mayor Suarez: Any further questions on item twenty? It's been moved and
seconded. Read the ordinance, Madam City Attorney. Call the roll.
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN EMERGENCY ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE OF
CITY OF MIAMI MARINA REVENUE BONDS, SERIES 1987, IN AN
AGGREGATE PRINCIPAL AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $12,000,000;
PROVIDING FOR THE TERMS THEREOF AND CERTAIN MATTERS IN
CONNECTION THEREWITH; DECLARING THE ORDINANCE AN
EMERGENCY MEASURE; DISPENSING WITH THE READING OF THE
ORDINANCE ON TWO SEPARATE DAYS; AND PROVIDING AN
EFFECTIVE DATE.
Was introduced by Commissioner Plummer and seconded by Commissioner
Dawkins, for adoption as an emergency measure and dispensing with the
requirement of reading same on two separate days, which was agreed to by the
following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Whereupon the Commission on motion of Commissioner Plummer and seconded
by Commissioner Dawkins, adopted said ordinance by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
SAID ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE N0. 10278.
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and
announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commission and
to the public.
Mr. Plummer: Where is Matty? Is there a problem why she's not here?
Mr. Dawkins: Yes, Matty went on vacation. She's in Spain enjoying herself.
Mr. Plummer: She's smarter than we are.
Mr. Dawkins: Yes.
6. EMERGENCY ORDINANCE: AMEND "STREET AND SIDEWALKS: TO REQUIRE SIDEWALK
IMPROVEMENT AND DEDICATION OF PROPERTY FOR RIGHT-OF-WAY PRIOR TO ISSUANCE
OF BUILDING PERMITS
Mr. Plummer: I move item twenty-one.
Mayor Suarez: Item 21 is moved.
Mr. Dawkins: Second.
Mr. Plummer: Is that a junket?
Mr. Dawkins: Ask the Herald.
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Mayor Suarez: Yea, the Herald defines junkets.
Thereupon, the city attorney read the emergency ordinance into the public
record.
Mr. Plummer: Justify the emergency.
Ms. Dougherty: This is a emergency because the right-of-way dedications are
being required daily now and that the - there has been an imposition and a
hardship on those who are requiring the right-of-way dedications.
Mr. Plummer: Call the roll.
Mayor Suarez: Call the roll.
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN EMERGENCY ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER 54 OF THE CODE
OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA, AS AMENDED, ENTITLED
"STREETS AND SIDEWALKS" BY AMENDING SECTIONS 54-45 AND
54-47 OF SAID CHAPTER TO REQUIRE SIDEWALK IMPROVEMENT
AND DEDICATION OF PROPERTY FOR RIGHT-OF-WAY PRIOR TO
ISSUANCE OF BUILDING PERMITS WHEN PROPERTY IS TO BE
IMPROVED BY CONSTRUCTION, RECONSTRUCTION, RENOVATION,
OR REPAIR OF $25,000 OR MORE IN VALUE OR WHEN THE
CONSTRUCTION RECONSTRUCTION, RENOVATION OR REMODELING
EXCEEDS SIX HUNDRED FIFTY SQUARE FEET IN FLOOR AREA;
FURTHER PROVIDING FOR AN APPEAL AND REVIEW PROCEDURE;
CONTAINING A REPEALER PROVISION AND A SEVERABILITY
CLAUSE.
Was introduced by Commissioner Plummer and seconded by Commissioner
Dawkins, for adoption as an emergency measure and dispensing with the
requirement of reading same on two separate days, which was agreed to by the
following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Whereupon the Commission on motion of Commissioner Plummer and seconded
by Commissioner Dawkins, adopted said ordinance by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
SAID ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO. 10279.
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and
announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commission and
to the public.
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7. EMERGENCY ORDINANCE: ESTABLISH NEW FUND *HAITIAN CHILD ABUSE EDUCATION
PROGRAM FY 86-87" AND APPROPRIATE FUNDS FOR SAME
Mayor Suarez: Item 22, the Haitian Abuse Education Program.
Mr. Plummers !love it.
Mr. Dawkins: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded.
Mr. Dawkins: Under discussion. Mr. Manager, I asked them - the individuals
who are getting this grant, to come back to me and tell me what child abuse
means in the Haitian community. And if they mean if a parent paddles his
child, that's not abuse. I mean, because the Haitians still believe in
paddling their youngsters and we don't. I mean, I don't see how you're going
to complain - charge them with child abuse.
Mr. Odio: I will have...
Mr. Dawkins: So I want them - so they're going to bring - they're coming back
to me and tell me what they consider to be child abuse and how it got to be
child abuse.
Mr. Odio: OK.
Mr. Dawkins: Thank you.
Mayor Suarez: Read the ordinance.
Mr. Dawkins-. What creates the emergency?
Mr. Plummer: If you don't get the money now, you're going to lose it.
Mr. Odio: If you don't get the money now, you lose it.
Mr. Dawkins: That's got - that's enough to be emergency.
Mr. Plummer: That's a damn good justification.
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN EMERGENCY ORDINANCE ESTABLISHING A NEW SPECIAL
REVENUE FUND ENTITLED: "HAITIAN CHILD ABUSE EDUCATION
PROGRAM FY '86-'87" AND APPROPRIATING FUNDS FOR THE
OPERATION OF SAME IN THE AMOUNT OF $60,000 FROM THB
UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES
THROUGH THH STATE OF FLORIDA AND DADE CODNTY'S OFFICE
OF THE DADE-MIAMI CRIMINAL JUSTICE COUNCIL; AND
RATIFYING THE CITY MANAGER'S ACTION ACCEPTING THE
$60,000 GRANT AWARD FROM THE UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT
OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES; CONTAINING A REPEALER
PROVISION AND A SEVERASILITY CLAUSE.
Was introduced by Coemissioner Plummer and seconded by Commissioner
Dawkins, for adoption as an emergency measure and dispensing with the
requirement of reading same on two separate days, which was agreed to by the
following vote -
AYES: Commiseioner !filler J. Dawkins
Comissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Pluasser, Jr. ,
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOBS: None.
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Whereupon the Commission on motion of Commnissioner Plummer and seconded
by Commissioner Dawkins, adopted said ordinance by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
SAID ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO. 10280_
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and
announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commission and
to the public.
8. EMERGENCY ORDINANCE: ESTABLISH NEW DEBT SERVICE FUND "HOUSING SPECIAL
OBLIGATION FRANCHISE FEE REVENUES DEBT SERVICE FUND" AND APPROPRIATE
FUNDS FOR SAME
Mr. Plummer: Move twenty-three.
Mayor Suarez: Item twenty-three has been moved.
Mrs. Kennedy: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Seconded.
Mr. Plummer: Justify the emergency.
Mr. Odio: We have to make a July lot payment.
Mr. Dawkins: Have to do what?
Mr. Odic: Make a July 1st payment.
Mr. Plummer: Make a July lot payment.
Mr. Odic: From this monies.
Mr. Dawkins: To what?
Mr. Odic: To the...
Mr. Garcia: Interest.
Mr. Odic: To the interest.
Mr. Plummer: This is for debt service.
Mr. Odio: I'm trying, commissioner, not to place - I removed quite a few
emergencies from this meeting.
Mr. Dawkins: No, don't take it off, I just need to know what we're doing.
Mr. Odio: But this one is important.
Mr. Dawkins: OK, I'll discuss it with you after lunch.
Mr. Odic: Yes, sir.
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AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED-
AN EMERGENCY ORDINANCE ESTABLISHING A NEW DEBT SERVICE
FUND ENTITLED: "HOUSING SPECIAL OBLIGATION FRANCHISE
FEE REVENUES DEBT SERVICE FUND", AND APPROPRIATING
FUNDS FOR THE OPERATION OF SAME IN THE AMOUNT OF
$300,000 FROM SOUTHERN BELL TELEPHONE AND TELEGRAPH
COMPANY FRANCHISE FEE REVENUES; CONTAINING A REPEALER
PROVISION AND A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.
Was introduced by Commissioner Plummer and seconded by Commissioner
Kennedy, for adoption as an emergency measure and dispensing with the
requirement of reading same on two separate days, which was agreed to by the
following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Caroilo
Whereupon the Commission on motion of Commissioner Plummer and seconded
by Commissioner Kennedy, adopted said ordinance by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
SAID ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO. 10281.
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and
announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commission and
to the public.
NOTE FOR THE RECORD: ITEM 24 WAS WITHDRAWN BY THE ADMINISTRATION.
9. APPROVE SUBLEASE OF MIAMI ROWING CLUB DURING THE UNLIMITED REGATTA.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, may I at this time, if I may, try to alleviate a
problem? We have all read about the articles of the Pulitzer Prize winning
Mr. Gjebre in reference to the Rowing Club. I have a problem in the fact that
we have the Unlimited Regatta this weekend, as you know, over at the marine
stadium. There was a commitment made for that facility - the use of that
facility - by the prime sponsor who is giving this city $110,000 in prize
money. I would - there is an ordinance which has been prepared...
Ms. Dougherty: Legal opinion.
Mr. Plummer: I'm sorry - a legal opinion prepared by the city attorney which
I think all of you have been furnished copies, which in fact, which says, that
If this commission approves the function on Sunday, it is well within the
rights of this commission to do so. I would like to explain to my colleagues
that there is a commitment that has been made. There are 300 people who have
been invited and I think that this commission would be embarrassed if we did
not make this approval which the city attorney says we have the right to do.
So, I am not making this blanket. I am making it for this Sunday. We'll
discuss the rest of it, I'm sure, at a later date. So I would like to move,
at this time, the wording which she will give me.
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boughertys To approve the sublease with the Unlimited Regatta for this
coming weekend with the Miami Moving Club.
Mr.
Plummer:
I so move, Mr. Mayor.
Mr.
Dawkins:
Ile voting no.
Mr.
Plummer:
Well, thank you.
Mr.
Dawkins:
Second it.
Mr.
Plummer:
Don't show up or I'll test you on the front of a boat.
Mr.
Dawkins:
Second it.
Mayor Suarez:
!loved and seconded. Any discussion?
Mrs.
Kennedy:
Based on the fact that it In a one shot deal.
Mr.
Plummer:
It's a commitment that had been made.
Mrs.
Kennedy:
Right, I understand.
Mayor Suarez:
Rafael, do you have a problem with it?
Mr.
Rafael Montalvo: No, I just want to say that what do we do in the future?
Mr.
Plummer:
We'll talk about it.
Mrs. Kennedy:
We'll re - we'll negotiate again.
Mr.
Dawkins:
Will you do what now?
Mr.
Montalvo:
In the future.
Mr.
Plummer:
We'll talk about it.
Mr.
Dawkins:
You come up here in the future. If we
have less money...
Mr.
Montalvo:
Every time?
Mr.
Plummer:
No, no, no, no, no, no, look.
Mr.
Dawkins:
If we have less...
Mr.
Plummer:
Not every time.
Mr.
Dawkins:
If you have less money to...
Mr.
Montalvo:
Let me - yes.
Mr.
Plummer:
I think what you're going to see that very soon, that there's
this commission is going to be discussing the whole
issue and that's when you
would came up
and talk about it.
Mr.
Montalvo:
OK.
Mr.
Plummer:
OK?
Mr.
Montalvo:
For - to discuss one agreement on, on
issue - on listen.
Mr.
Plummer:
This agreement today is only because
a commitment was made for
Sunday.
Mr.
Montalvo:
Right.
Mr. Plummer: OK. And I would hate to see you or this commission embarrassed
by that commitment not being lived up to.
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Mr. Montalvo: Yes. I would hate that too.
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Mayor Suarez: Mr. vice -Mayor, let's put his name in the record because he
didn't state it initially.
Mr. Plummer: So this is to alleviate just this Sunday's problem.
Mayor Suarez: I want you to state your name for the record and address,
please.
Mr. Montalvo: I'm sorry. My name is Rafael Montalvo.
Mayor Suarez: Give us an address please.
Mr. Montalvo: And my address is 1 - 12500 Birtudes, Coral Gables. The point
that I had questions that I have, OK, is that, OK, so we have an event coming
up and we lease it for that or - for that event and it's authorized if you
approve it and so on and then we stop leasing it.
Mr. Plummer: Well - At this particular point, I think you would be wise,
before you sublease anything else...
Mr. Montalvo: Right.
Mr. Plummer: ... that you approach this commission. Because it is without
question, I think, that this commission is going to discuss the issue of the
Rowing Club in the very near future, OK? As it - all ramifications. OK?
Mr. Montalvo: OK. Thank you.
Mr. Plummer: I have a second point which I am going to be making after this
passes.
Mr. Juan Portuondo: Yes, Vice -Mayor Plummer. My name is Juan Portuondo.
Mr. Plummer: That looks like a sanitation king.
Mr. Portuondo: One Biscayne Tower. 3668.
Mayor Suarez: You used to button up your shirt all the way when you were
working for the city.
Mr. Portuondo: I can't afford to any more.
Mr. Plummer: But now he's out with the Indians.
Mr. Portuondo: We have other commitments that have been made and I was
wondering if you could consider granting a blanket for those commitments that
are presently on the books.
Mrs. Kennedy: How many would you may you have, roughly?
Mr. Plummer: One a day.
Mrs. Kennedy: That's what I'm afraid of.
Mr. Portuondo: No. Probably five or six through the end of August.
Mr. Plummer: Well, I would suggest to you that - are any of them between now
and the next meeting?
Mr. Portuondo: No, I don't think no.
Mr. Plummer: OK, I would suggest you supply us with a list and we can
address that issue at the next meeting.
Mr. Portuondo: OK, thank you.
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The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved
its adoption:
MOTION NO. 87-537
A MOTION TO APPROVE THE SUBLEASE OF THE MIAMI ROWING CLUB
DURING THE UNLIMITED REGATTA FOR THE WEEKEND OF JUNE 13-
14, 1987.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Dawkins, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
10. DISCUSSION REGARDING ARTICLES IN NEWSPAPERS CONCERNING THE ROWING CLUB;
REQUEST CITY MANAGER TO KEEP COMMISSION INFORMED
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Manager, I would ask at this time, sir, we have read the
articles of the Pulitzer Prize. I - I'm sure...
Mr. Odio: Lisa Getter's articles...
Mr. Plummer: Yes.
Mr. Odio: They are Pulitzer Prize.
Mr. Plummer: I was unaware, and I'm sure my colleagues were, about the area
of transfer of that fenced in area. All I would ask is that, you know, I
don't like to read about my city in the paper. I would ask you to supply to
this commission any information because, as you know, I don't put any truth in
articles in a newspaper as gospel. And I think this commission should know
what is the - what has transpired so that we, ourselves, can understand what
took place. And I would ask you please to forward to me and my colleagues any
and all information pertaining to that particular issue or anything else that
you would like to proffer about the Rowing Club in reference to these articles
which have appeared.
Mr. Portuondo: We will be happy to respond to the points raised in the
articles before the next commission meeting.
Mr. Plummer: That's fine.
Mr. Portuondo: Thank you.
Mayor Suarez: It may not be wise for you to do it, but... Mr. Manager, on
the issue of the land that was deeded over from - or was to be deeded over
from the county to the city which has been fenced in, we have your assurance
that as soon as that land actually becomes city of Miami property, that you
will take whatever action is necessary specifically to have the fence removed.
Or otherwise, bring it back to the commission for consideration of what we do
with that land.
Mr. Odio: Let me make it simple, Mr. Mayor. That land has not been deeded
over to the city of Miami. That land will be used this weekend, by the way,
for parking.
Mr. Plummer: That is correct.
Mr. Odio: For the Unlimited Hydroplane Regatta and in any other events that
it's needed at the Marine Stadium. They do not have, even though the fence is
up, and the fence was put up to protect equipment that was brought from the
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northeast for crews that came here to practice during the spring break and
fill up...
Mayor Suarez: Oh, I've got all kinds of good ideas what we can do with that
fence when you remove it, Rafael, I...
Mr. Odio: OK.
Mayor Suarez: ... there's one housing project that needs a fence and I know
you'll be happy to donate it if it can be reused once it is removed.
Mr. Montalvo: Yes, but, but the fence needs to be...
Mr. Odio: That fence, Mr. Mayor, was put up to protect - the Southern Bell
people, when they removed the tower, removed all the fences around the area.
All of them.
Mr. Plummer: Vell...
Mr. Odio: They left the property wide open and the shells could not be stored
there without us being liable for it. And I mean the city.
Mr. Plummer: Before you go ripping down any fences...
Mr. Odio: That's right, I'm not going to rip down the fences.
Mr. Plummer: Excuse me, before you go ripping down any fences, and I'm not
defending the Roving Club, they're big boys, but we have one helluva security
problem over there at that...
Mr. Odio: That is correct.
Mr. Plummer: ... on that area. And I don't, in any way, want to demand a
fence to be ripped down where they cannot have a sense of security around
their assets. So, I would say I would appreciate, Mr. Mayor, before anything
Is done, come back before this commission. OK? And let us decide because,
I'll tell you, we're into some hellacious lawsuits over there right now about
some property that's been stolen and it's not a single occasion, it's
numerous.
Mr. Odio: That is the problem.
Mr. Plummer: OK.
Mr. Odio: Ve do have that problem.
Mr. Plummer: That's why I want it brought back here before you give a
blanket, just tear everything down.
Mr. Odio: OK, so as I understand it, I was going to order the fence moved
back when we get the deed from the city, but what I'll do is, I'll bring it to
you.
Mr. Plummer: That's what I would prefer.
Mr. Montalvo: And we will report to you on everything from the Roving Club -
every point that has been raised.
Mr. Odio: You know, the fence costs about $2,000. I wanted to point this
out, Mr. Mayor, that the city of Tampa spent $500,000 - $500,000 out of their
coffers to build a municipal boathouse to bring the crews from all the
universities during spring break and the result of that is they have a
convention every year of 4,000 people filling the downtown hotels around the
river in Tampa. Ve were trying to do the same in the Marine Stadium, but I
guess I have to go into basketball now.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor...
!Mayor Suarez: You have to go to what?
Mr. Odio: Play basketball. Roving Is bad news.
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Mr. Plummer: No, no, no, now you're touching on the Mayor's territory.
Don't - no. Mr. Manager. Mr. Assistant Manager. I would hope, since there
has been indicated a problem with liability, as the same thing we had an
experience with the Grand Prix when we lowered the maximum, that you are doing
the same thing that we did with the Grand Prix. And that is to have in-house
make a determination that a policy cannot be secured.
Mr. Odio: We have that report.
Mr. Plummer: When - give it to me all at one time, OK? But I want that
_ justification as we did there, that, in fact, what they're saying is the
availability was not there, that we need to know that from an in-house
situation, if, in fact this commission is going to address the issue and
reduce the amount of the policy.
Mr. Odio: Yes, sir.
11. SECOND READING ORDINANCE: ADDITIONAL CERTIFICATION OF CIVIL SERVICE
EXAMINATIONS
Mayor Suarez: Item twenty-five, I want to say? I thought you asked for 24 to
be withdrawn, Mr. City Manager.
Mr. Dawkins: You asked for 24 to be withdrawn? Who asked for 24 to be
withdrawn?
Mayor Suarez: Did you ask for 24 to...
Mr. Odio: Yes, sir, I did.
Mayor Suarez: Item twenty-five.
Mr. Odio: Under the civil service rules and regulations requiring that
changes in ethnic status be made prior to the establishment of a competitive
racer at the time of application for all the competitive examinations. This
is the second reading.
Mrs. Kennedy: Move it.
Mr. Plummer: I second.
Thereupon, the city attorney read the ordinance into the public record.
Mayor Suarez: Call the roll.
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTION 40-63 OF THE CODE OF THE
CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA, AS AMENDED, ENTITLED
"ADDITIONAL CERTIFICATION", BY ADDING A NEW PARAGRAPH
TO THE EXISTING SUBSECTION (E), ENTITLED "MANNER OF
CERTIFICATION OF ELIGIBLES FOR APPOINTMENT", REQUIRING
THAT CHANGES IN ETHNIC STATUS BE ESTABLISHED AT THE
TIME OF APPLICATION FOR ALL COMPETITIVE EXAMINATIONS=
CONTAINING A REPEAT R PROVISION AND A SEVERABILITY
CLAUSE.
Passed on its first reading by title at the meeting of May 14, 1987, was taken
up for its second and final reading by title and adoption. On motion of
Commissioner Kennedy, seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the Ordinance was
thereupon given its second and final reading by title and passed and adopted
by the following vote-
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Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
THE ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO. 10282.
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and
announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commission and
to the public.
12. SECOND READING ORDINANCE: RECLASSIFY FUNDING FOR "AFFORDABLE RENTAL
HOUSING PROGRAM"
Mayor Suarez: Item twenty-six.
Mrs. Kennedy: Move it.
Mr. Dawkins: Move it. Second.
Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded. Any discussion? Read the ordinance. Call
the roll.
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTION 1 OF ORDINANCE NO.
10187, AS AMENDED, ADOPTED DECEMBER 11, 1986, THE
CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT APPROPRIATIONS ORDINANCE, BY
RECLASSIFYING THE FUNDING SOURCES FOR THE PROJECT
ENTITLED "AFFORDABLE RENTAL HOUSING PROGRAM", PROJECT
321024, BY DECREASING THE EXISTING APPROPRIATION OF
1976 HOUSING GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS BY THE AMOUNT OF
$2,555,847 AND BY APPROPRIATING THIS SAME AMOUNT FROM
INTEREST EARNED ON 1976 HOUSING GENERAL OBLIGATION
BONDS; CONTAINING REPEALER PROVISION AND A
SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.
Passed on its first reading by title at the meeting of May 14, 1987, was taken
up for its second and final reading by title and adoption. On motion of
Commissioner Kennedy, seconded by Commissioner Dawkins, the Ordinance was
thereupon given its second and final reading by title and passed and adopted
by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES$ None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
THE ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO. 10283.
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and
announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commission and
to the public.
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13. DEFER CONSIDERATION OF PROPOSED SECOND READING ORDINANCE TO ESTABLISH A
NEW CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT: "HOUSING PROGRAMS ADMINISTRATION";
REQUEST ADMINISTRATION FOR DETAILED INFORMATION
Mayor Suarez: Item twenty-seven.
Mrs. Kennedy: Move 28.
Mayor Suarez: Item twenty-seven, no?
Mr. Dawkins: Move it.
Mr. Plummer: Seconded. Let me ask this...
Mayor Suarez: Twenty-seven has been moved and seconded.
Mr. Plummer: Yes, question. As this reads on the agenda, this is a housing
programs administration for a half a million dollars. That's an awful lot of
administration.
Mr. Jerry Gereaux: That's what it is and that's what's needed.
Mr. Plummer: Why? How much is the total project?
Mr. Gereaux: Well, this, this is interest - we - let me explain it this way,
commissioner. We do a lot of programs in housing in the city that come with
no administrative support. As you know, we get no general fund money to carry
out these programs. So, we need this money and it was approved in last year's
budget, this is just a bookkeeping item, in order to pay the staff costs
associated with...
Mr.
Dawkins:
How such of it
is salary?
Mr.
Gereaux:
... leveraging
more federal money - non C.D. money.
Mr.
Plummer:
You know, I remember so vividly when we decided to start our own
housing agency, remember?
Mr.
Gereaux:
I remember.
Mr.
Plummer:
What was the
- how much was the numbers? Guaranteed it would
not
exceed $175,000.
Mr.
Gereaux:
What?
Mr. Plummer: The administration.
Mr. Gereaux: I don't know what you're talking about.
Mr. Plummer: Hundred and seventy-five thousand dollars.
Mr. Gereaux: We had our budget before you last year, Mr. Commissioner, at the
budget hearing...
Mr. Plummer: I'm talking about when we established this new agency.
Mr. Gereaux: But I just - I'm at a loss. I don't know what you mean.
Mr. Plummer: OK.
Mr. Odio: We - our guarantee, Commissioner, is that there - it - we...
Mr. Plummer: If you're at a loss, I'm at a loss and I'll move that this item
be deferred. You supply to me and the rest of the commission a detailed list
of what is costing what and what you are doing for the money. OK?
Mr. Gereauxi line.
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Mr. Dawkins: And also provide me with a list of anybody who might have been
transferred from any place else in the city to this budget.
Mr. Plummer: How many people do you have working there?
Mrs. Kennedy: Yes.
Mr. Gereaux: Right at the moment, thirty.
Mr. Plummer: OK.
Mr. Dawkins: See, with all this consolidation and what have you, you see, I
need to know that you consolidated and you didn't shift responsibilities and
monies some place, that's all.
Mr. Gereaux: OK, fine.
Mr. Dawkins: I second J.L.'s motion.
Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded. Any further discussion?
Mr. Odio (off mike): I'll tell you what I'm doing.
Mr. Plummer: I know what you're doing.
Mr. Odio: ... I charge part of my salary to....
Mr. Plummer: I know what you're doing. I want to see a list, that's all I'm
asking.
Mayor Suarez: Call the roll.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved
its adoption:
MOTION NO. 87-537.1
A MOTION TO DEFER PROPOSED SECOND READING ORDINANCE
AMENDING THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT APPROPRIATIONS ORDINANCE
IN CONNECTION WITH ESTABLISHING A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT
PROJECT ENTITLED "HOUSING PROGRAMS ADMINISTRATION AND
APPROPRIATING FUNDS IN THE AMOUNT OF $500,000 IN INTEREST
INCOME FROM THE 176 HOUSING GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS
FURTHER INSTRUCTING THE CITY ADMINISTRATION TO SUPPLY THE
CITY COMMISSION WITH A DETAILED LIST OF COSTS PERTAINING
TO THE HOUSING CONSERVATION AND DEVELOPMENT AGENCY AND AN
ITEMIZATION OF THE REQUESTED FUNDING; FURTHER INSTRUCTING
THE ADMINISTRATION TO PROVIDE THE COMMISSION WITH A LIST
OF THOSE EMPLOYEES WHO HAVE TRANSFERRED FROM OTHER CITY
DEPARTMENTS INTO THE HOUSING AGENCY'S BUDGET.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Dawkins, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
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14. SECOND READING ORDINANCE: DECREASE AND RECLASSIFY FUNDING SOURCES FOR
"FLAGAMI SANITARY SEWERS"
Mr. Plummer: Move 28.
Mrs. Kennedy: Second.
Mr. Dawkins: Under discussion. Will the administration tell me... if the
residents in that area were notified that - of these costs? Oh, that's
appropriations. OK, move it.
Mayor Suarez: Item 28 is moved.
Mr. Dawkins: J.L. moved it, I second it
Mayor Suarez: Seconded. Any discussion? Read the ordinance. Call the roll.
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTION 1 OF ORDINANCE NO.
10187, ADOPTED DECEMBER 11, 1986, AS AMENDED, THE
CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS APPROPRIATIONS ORDINANCE, BY
DECREASING AND RECLASSIFYING THE FUNDING SOURCES FOR
THE PROJECT ENTITLED "FLAGAMI SANITARY SEWERS",
PROJECT NO. 351173; BY DECREASING THE APPROPRIATION
FROM 1980 SANITARY SEWER G.O. BONDS BY THE AMOUNT OF
THREE MILLION SEVEN HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS
($3,700,000) AND BY APPROPRIATING TWO MILLION SIX
HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS ($2,600,000) FROM THE
REMAINING 1975 & 1976 SANITARY SEWER G.O. BONDS FUND
BALANCE; CONTAINING A REPEALER PROVISION AND A
SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.
Passed on its first reading by title at the meeting of May 28, 1987, was taken
up for its second and final reading by title and adoption. On motion of
Commissioner Plummer, seconded by Commissioner Kennedy, the Ordinance was
thereupon given its second and final reading by title and passed and adopted
by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
THE ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO. 10284.
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and
announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commission and
to the public.
15. DISCUSSION REGARDING POSSIBLE REVENUES FOR SOLID WASTE DEPARTMENT WHICH
COULD BE OBTAINED WITH SPECIAL EQUIPMENT TO SERVICE LARGE FACILITIES
Mr. Dawkins: Mr. Mayor, before we go further, I got one pocket item. Mr.
Manager, where's the manager? Mr. Manager.
Mr. Odios Teo, sir.
Mr. Dawkins This commission gave directions that it was in favor of making
the Sanitation Department self sufficient and able to pay for itself. OK,
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now, at that time, this commission directed you, I think, and if I'm in error,
they will correct me, to find ways and methods to bring revenue into the
Sanitation Department so that we would not have to tax the citizenry for
picking up the garbage. is that correct, sir?
Mr. Odic: Yes, sir.
Mr. Dawkins: And the department went out and started to solicit business, but
they found they did not have the equipment with which to perform the
business - I mean - is that correct?
Mr. Odic: Yes. We have the - we need the roll on, roll off equipment that we
don't have.
Mr. Dawkins: OK. Nov, the roll on, roll off will help us also with all new
buildings, all new construction that have these containers that you - I mean
these dumpaters...
Mr. Odic: Yes, sir.
Mr. Dawkins: ... we don't have any way of picking them up and getting rid of
them.
Mr. Odic: We do not have equipment, we, we...
Mr. Dawkins: OK, I need to know from the commission today - I mean, you need
= to spend how much money?
Mr. Odic: $200,000.
Mr. Dawkins: You need it.
Mr. Odic: On an emergency basis so that we can start Bayside in 21 days.
Mr. Dawkins: All right - and the first contract you have from Bayside is
worth what?
Mr. Odic: Forty thousand a year. The moment we do Bayside, however, we can
do the Knight Center for a similar amount and we can do the DuPont Plaza.
Mrs. Kennedy: Do we need to hire more personnel?
Mr. Plummer: Sure.
Mr. Odic: We can shift people around for the time being.
Mr. Dawkins: No.
Mr. Odic: No, we don't have to hire people at this time, but we will as
business grows. People will have to be hired but they have to be matched to
revenues. We don't have the revenues you can't hire people, but...
Mr. Dawkins: But - but, wait now. I think we are leading...
Mr. Odic: Yes, sir.
Mr. Dawkins: ... Commissioner Kennedy astray.
Mr. Odic: Yes.
Mr. Dawkins: If you bring in business and increase business...
Mr. Odio: Oh, sure.
Mr. Dawkins: ... and have score business, you have to have more people to do-
lt, you're correct, Commissioner Kennedy. ,
Mr. Odic: Yes, that's what I said. Yes, air.
Mr. Dawkins: Commissioner Kennedy. Nell, tell her that, don't sit here and
tell her no.
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Mrs. Kennedy: Yes. Yes, that is OK, the only thing I'm thinking of, I don't
know if it will be fiscally responsible to do it without having at least what,
three or four or five accounts guaranteed.
Mr. Odic: Well, let me explain something, Commissioner, the $200,000 is for
equipment. That equipment is going to be around for ten years. If you take
the $40,000, it'll be paid for in five years. So, it is a good investment
because the equipment will be there and I can assure you that once we have
that equipment, we will get other customers immediately. But we have to have
the base to start off with and Bayside is a good experience for us and...
Mr. Dawkins: But, as she said, you will need no new personnel to operate and
maintain the equipment that we are spending $200,000 for, that's the question.
Mr. Odic: No - the question is no, for Bayside, no. Once we increase
business, we will need more people. But, as of the moment, we will need the
equipment and we will have the same people that we have now on board to do the
job. But we need to establish the fact that we can do at Bayside what IWS is
doing.
Mr. Dawkins: OK, well...
Mr. Plummer: Well, may I ask that rather than this being handled as a pocket,
that you furnish us a full rationale and justification. You know, as I know
the Sanitation Department, for $200,000 you ain't buying a hell of a lot.
Mr. Odio: That's right.
Mr. Plummer: Each one of those compactors are what? They're up now to about
$88,000?
Mr. Joseph Ingraham: Each unit is roughly $100,000. That's for the truck...
the container, and the compactor. The compactors themself...
Mr. Plummer: See, I just can't envision that you're going to get involved for
no $200,000. I think you're going to be coming back and back and you're going
to piecemeal this thing. I would like to see... before we vote on it, a
rationale and justification with all of these items. What equipment are you
buying. Estimated cost.
Mr. Odic: We have that.
Mr. Plummer The amount of - well, I haven't seen it.
Mrs. Kennedy: Why haven't we been furnished that?
Mr. Odic: No - but - I'll have that out and we'll provide that to you but we
do need to, if we're going to do Bayside, to have - you allow me to proceed on
an emergency proceeding.
Mr. Plummer: Is there a problem at Bayside? I mean, why are we proposing to
do it?
Mr. Odic: Yes, there is a problem. If we don't get the equipment, I will
have to tell the people from the Rouse Company to proceed and sign a contract
with a private group. I cannot delay them any longer.
Mr. Plummer: Well, who are they using now? Obviously, they're...
Mr. Odio: IWS on a temporary basis, but if we don't - if I cannot tell that
man down there, yes, we bought the equipment and the equipment is on the way,
we're going to lose the contract.
Mr. Plummer: So, in other words, what you're saying is, that presently
they're paying 444,000 for temporary, is that what it is?
Mr. Odic: Yes - a year, forty...
Mr. Plummer: Now, OK, I guess the immediate question I've got to ask is,
knowing how the city operates, can we do it and at least break even on
$44,000?
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Mr. Odic: Comissioner, if they can do it, we can do it.
Mr. Plummer: Bull.
Mr. Odio: No, I don't accept that at all. And the proof...
Mr. Plummer: Carpenters at $26.00 an hour...
Mr. Odic: No, commissioner...
Mr. Plummer: ... I can get a hell of a lot cheaper in the private sector.
Mr. Odic: I think it's easy to put down the city every time.
YOU, I...
Mr. Plummer: No, no, excuse me, I am not putting down the city.
simple question.
Mr. Dawkins: But you see...
Mr. Odic: You're putting down the city employee...
Mr. Plummer: My - no, sir, I am not.
Mr. Odic: No? OK.
Let me tell
I asked a
Mr. Plummer: I am saying, can we break even at forty-four thousand? Now, you
expounded on it.
Mr. Dawkins: Yes, we can break even because we're going to pick up the same
trash that my taxes make me pick up. The private sector picks up garbage.
Nov, for that $44,000, he picks up garbage. We still have to go back and pick
up the trash, free. So we...
Mr. Plummer: OK, but that's what I'm asking, that's...
Mr. Dawkins: So we - so we going to break even.
Mr. Plummer: Excuse me for asking questions that I'm putting down the city.
Mr. Odic: I didn't mean it.
Mr. Dawkins: Well, I mean...
Mr. Plummer: But I'm charged with a responsibility...
Mr. Dawkins: Of put - to put down the city, we understand that. OK.
Mr. Plummer: ... of trying to get the value for my dollar. OK?
Mr. Odio: No, I...
Mr. Plummer: Now, all I'm saying to you is, supply, obviously Commissioner
Kennedy has not received it and the Mayor, I don't know, who else.
Mr. Dawkins: I haven't. Nobody has.
Mr. Plummer: I would like to see a paper of justifications showing me that
this is what you can do, this is what it's going to cost and if I have any
questions before the public hearing, I can call Mr. Ingraham and say, please
give me the answers.
Mr. Odic: Well, we cannot wait until the public hearing. If we're going to
get...
Mr. Plummer: No, sir, we can have it at the next commission peeting.
Ms. Dougherty: We can have it this afternoon.
Mr. Odlo: We won't have the equipment here on time.
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Mr. Dawkins: OK. I'll tell you, let's just forget this. I mean, - if we're
going to let the Sanitation Department become prioritized, let's do that, OK?
Mr. Plummer: No, I'm not interested in that.
Mr. Dawkins: Well, then, but - the man is telling us that he has to have a
piece of equipment.
Mr. Plummer: Well, this man has known Bayside has been open for three months
and it was on the planning board for two years and suddenly it comes here as
an emergency.
Mr. Dawkins: But, we've been arguing, J.L. - J.L. we've been arguing with
Bayside and we had to pressure them to give us a chance to try it...
Mr. Plummer: Fine.
Mr. Dawkins: ... and that took that long to do it.
Mr. Plummer: Bring me something at lunch time or after lunch and I'll look at
It and if I can justify it at that time, bring it back up this afternoon.
Mr. Dawkins: OK, no problem.
Mr. Plummer: But I am not going to sit here...
Mr. Dawkins: Not only J.L. now, everybody up here has to know what they're
doing. I mean, just don't give it to J.L. now.
Mr. Plummer: Exactly.
Mr. Odio: Let me clarify something.
Mr. Dawkins: The Mayor hasn't seen it, I haven't seen it, Joe hasn't - Joe
didn't see it.
Mr. Odio: I didn't mean that you're putting down the city, Commissioner, but
this $26.00 charge from GSA - that whole system is an accounting system that
I'm not responsible for. It is in the process of being dismantled so that we
get true costs forever...
Mr. Plummer: Fine.
Mr. Odic: ... so I didn't mean it that way.
Mr. Plummer: Fine. And all I'm asking is that I get true cost on this
proposal.
Mr. Odio: But what I'm saying is if their garbage men can pick up, we can do
the same thing, and...
Mr. Plummer: Fine. Come visit with me when I get back from lunch.
16. APPROVE EMERGENCY PROCUREMENT OF POLICE UNIFORMS
Mayor Suarez: Another item that has come up as an emergency, Mr. City Manager
just handed you, from the Chief, a memo dated with today's date, that they
have been trying to purchase uniforms without which they cannot function for a
great deal of time - almost a year, actually, August 13th seems to be the
first time that an effort was made and apparently these...
Mr. Plummer: Do we have a copy of that?
r
Mayor Suar4s: We're going to distribute these. We're going to have to make
copies. They just brought them over from the police department. Why would it
take this long to get these uniforms approved and what do you suggest that we
do, Mr. City !tanager, so we get this problem resolved and they can have the
uniforms that they need? Dean.
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Mr. Dean Mielke: Mr. Mayor, Dean Mielke, labor relations. We are
contractually obligated to do that. We had some problems with the vendors.
We had some problems with the material we were using. They sat down with the
union and they worked it out and the bottom line is, we should have had this a
long time ago. It is not a - it is not an inner dispute between the employees
and the employer, but rather a change in some of the material that we are
using apparently and they do need them and we are behind and it's a....
Mr. Dawkins: Well, Mr. Dean, why is it that every time its a dispute over
uniforms...
Mr. Mielke: It's not a dispute, Mr....
Mr. Dawkins: ... something as minor as that has to come to the commission?
OK, we've been through it with the Sanitation Department, OK? Now we're here
with the Police Department.
Mr. Mielke: It's not a dispute, Mr. Mayor. In fact, it's not a difference of
opinion between the employees and the city. It had a problem to do with the
vendors and had a problem to do with the particular material that was being
utilized. And, I believe, it has a question with regard to fire retardant
material and that sort of question and I know that the department met with the
employees and they agreed upon how they were going to solve the problem. It
wasn't a dispute between us at all and the employees and they are united on it
and what they're trying to do now is they've got to go to emergency now to get
the stuff, because we've owed it to the people for months and months.
Mr. Dawkins: See, but, this is my problem. See, we got the money, OK? And
like you said, it's no discussion, no argument and no nothing between
management and labor, but yet, they don't have the uniforms, see? So
somewhere along the lines, either we are not putting enough pressure on the
supplier, or we're not being competitive - competitive enough to go get
another competitor who will produce what we need.
Mr. Mielke: I think that's what they did, Mr. Dawkins. I think that's
exactly what they did. I'm not positive, but I think that's exactly what they
did. And now what we're trying to do is get caught up so we can get these out
of the people and get - go ahead with it.
Mr. Plummer: Would you please forward to me a copy of the specs for the
contract, please?
Mr. Mielke: I'll be glad to. I will get you a copy mailed today.
Mr. Plummer: That's been the problem in the past - that the police department
wanted uniforms that were not considered to be the norm and there was a
tremendous price paid. They wanted different zippers, they wanted different
buttons, they wanted different, different, different, different - and the
supplier could not come up because they normally stock a stock uniform and
they didn't have them available. And I'm like Commissioner Dawkins, I don't
why this is coming before the commission. It's an in-house problem.
Mr. Mielke: On advice of counsel on the - on April 29th, Deputy Zity
Attorney, Mr. Clark suggested we bring it to you, sir. That's the reason why
we're doing it - we're...
Mr. Plummer: Well, why isn't it on the agenda?
Mr. Mielke: I can't attest to that, I'm just telling you what I know to be
fact.
Mr. Plummer: So what do you need for us to do?
Mr. Mielke: To approve the emergency request so we can go ahead and get the
uniforms. And I will get you a copy of the specs today.
Mr. Plummer: I so move.
Mr. Mielke: Thank you, sir.
Mrs. Kennedy: I second. The funds are there.
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Mayor Suarez: So moved and seconded. Any discussion?
Mr. Plummer: But I still want a copy of the specs.
Mr. Mielke (off mike): You'll have it today.
Mayor Suarez: Call the roll.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved
its adoption:
MOTION NO. 87-538
A MOTION APPROVING REQUEST FOR EMERGENCY ACTION REQUEST IN
CONNECTION WITH PROCUREMENT OF UNIFORMS FOR THE MIAMI
POLICE DEPARTMENT.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Kennedy, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
NOTE FOR THE RECORD: Items 29 and 30 were deferred to the afternoon.
17. (A) - DEFER PROPOSED FIRST READING ORDINANCE TO PROHIBIT DOGS IN CITY
PARKS; REQUEST STUDY
(B) - DEFER PROPOSED FIRST READING ORDINANCE IN CONNECTION WITH REMOVAL
OF DOG FECES IN PUBLIC AREAS; REQUEST STUDY
Mayor Suarez: Therefore, we go to item 31. The dogs in the parks. Where
were dogs allowed in the past in the parks? I thought they weren't allowed in
i the parks.
i Mr. Al Howard: Under the present ordinance, 3837, they're allowed in the
yparks on a six foot leash. There is no restriction. There is no designated
I area. We've never set that, but they are allowed in the parks supposedly, in
a designated area. But the dog population has increased tremendously. For
various reasons.
Mayor Suarez: They were allowed in a designated area, Al?
Mr. Howard: We don't have designated areas in the park. They're just
bringing them into the park and they're both in active parks and passive
parks. And, what we're finding is, you know, it can be through the dogs'
feces, the children can contain diseases, skins disorders, and it's proving to
be quite a problem that we have now. You walk through the park and, some
cases, you have dog sitters. Where they're taking as many as...
Mr. Plummer: Dog suits?
Mr. Howard: Sitters.
Mr. Plummer: Oh, sitters.
Mr. Howard: and they're taking as many as three and four dogs, and I've seen
Lt. I went around the parks and they're paid to do this and they bring the
dogs right into the parks along a vita course or into a playground and we're
just asking them to go on the outside of the parks on the perimeter and to
pick up the droppings of the dogs. It's a sanitary problem, it's a safety
problem.
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Mrs. Kennedys Al, is this a real...
Mr. Howard-. And it's not - it's not an innovation. It is done in other
areas. Quite successfully, I might add.
Mrs. Kennedy% Is this a real problem on the streets?
Mr. Howards It's a problem along the outside of the parks. Even the - where
the people are walking their dogs now, along the condominiums, they bring them
out into the sidewalk area along the curbing and you'll find it there too. In
condominiums in particular - like down in Legion Park where we have seniors,
they'll walk the dogs right into the park area there, outside of the park
where the seniors are because they're surrounded by condominiums. And that's
where a lot of the problems are, where we have condominiums. And they have
the dogs for companionship, they like them, and for security today. And some
of them have more than one dog. The dog population, I think, is as many - as
big as the people - the residents in Miami. There are a lot of...
Mr. Plummer: I move that item 31 be deferred for further in depth study and
be brought back to this commission at a later date.
Mayor Suarez: So moved. You were going to carry out the study of the feces,
I mean, of the whole issue.
Mrs. Kennedy: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded. Any discussion? Call the roll.
Mrs. Kennedy: But - but - but let me just say, under discussion that the main
problem is in the parks, maybe that's where it should be limited and not
penalize the dog owners who walk their dogs in the streets.
Mayor Suarez: Call the roll.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved
its adoption:
MOTION NO. 87-538.1
A MOTION TO DEFER PROPOSED FIRST READING ORDINANCE TO
AMEND THE CITY CODE IN CONNECTION WITH PROHIBITING DOGS IN
CITY PARKS, EXCLUDING SEEING -EYE DOGS; FURTHER REQUESTING
AN IN-DEPTH STUDY ON SAID ISSUE TO BE BROUGHT BEFORE THIS
COMMISSION AT A LATER DATE.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Kennedy, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Mr. Plummer: Likewise I move the same consideration for thirty-two.
Mrs. Kennedy: Second.
Mayor Suarez: So moved and seconded. Any discussion? Call the roll.
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The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved
its adoptions
MOTION NO. 87-538.2
A MOTION TO DEFER PROPOSED FIRST READING ORDINANCE TO
AMEND THE CITY CODE IN CONNECTION WITH REMOVAL OF DOG
FECES IN PUBLIC AREAS; FURTHER REQUESTING THAT AN IN-DEPTH
STUDY ON SAID ISSUE BE BROUGHT BEFORE THIS COMMISSION AT A
LATER DATE.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Kennedy, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote-
ATES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
18. FIRST READING ORDINANCE: ADS FOR DELINQUENT LIENS
Mayor Suarez: Item 33.
Mr. Plummer: Move it.
Mayor Suarez: So moved.
Mrs. Kennedy: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Seconded. Any discussion on 33? Read the ordinance, Madam
City Attorney.
Thereupon, the city attorney read the ordinance into the public record.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Manager.
Mr. Odic: Yes, sir.
Mr. Plummer: This has always been handled aside from the regular advertising
contract. I would like to know, sir, what media this is going into.
Mr. Odic: OK, I'll have to - yes, sir.
Mr. Carlos Garcia: If I may say, we're not, at this time, selecting a
newspaper. On the last advertisement we used the Miami News and we also used
Patric.
Mr. Plummer: OK, I think it is very important, and I've said this in the
past, that that same thing be published in the Miami Review. That is the
legal paper. That's where this is, is a legal problem and I don't have any
problem with the News and Diarios, but I think that it must be in the legal
paper, the Miami Review because that's where they really come binding. I move
Item 34.
Mayor Suarez: I'm sorry but we haven't called the roll on 33.
Mr. Plummer: Oh, we didn't?
Mr. Dawkins: Mo.
Mr. Plummer: I'm sorry.
!Mayor Suarez: Call the roll.
.
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AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTION 18-37 OF THE CODE OF THE
CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA, AS AMENDED, RELATED TO
PUBLICATION REQUIREMENTS IN LOCAL NEWSPAPERS OF
INTENTIONS TO SELL DELINQUENT SPECIAL ASSESSMENT LIENS
BY PROVIDING THAT THE NOTICE OF PUBLICATION OF SALE OF
DELINQUENT SPECIAL ASSESSMENT LIENS BE AS SET FORTH IN
SECTION 42 OF THE CHARTER OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, AS
AMENDED, AND ALSO PROVIDING THAT SAID PROCEDURE SET
FORTH IN CITY CHARTER SECTION 42 SHALL BE DEEMED
CUMULATIVE AND ALTERNATIVE TO THE NOTICE PROCEDURES
FOR SALES OF SPECIAL ASSESSMENT LIENS AS PRESCRIBED BY
APPLICABLE STATE AND LOCAL LAWS; CONTAINING A REPEALER
PROVISION AND A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.
Was introduced by Commissioner Plummer and seconded by Commissioner
Kennedy and was passed on its first reading by title by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and
announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commission and
to the public.
19. FIRST READING ORDINANCE: ESTABLISH REVENUE FUND: "INVESTMENT IN
EXCELLENCE PROGRAM"
Mayor Suarez: Item 34.
Mr. Plummer: Move it.
Mrs. Kennedy: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded. Any discussion? Read the ordinance. Call
the roll.
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN ORDINANCE ESTABLISHING A SPECIAL REVENUE FUND
ENTITLED: "INVESTMENT IN EXCELLENCE PROGRAM, REGION
XIV FY 187 - 88", APPROPRIATING FUNDS FOR ITS
OPERATION IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $11,600;
AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ACCEPT THE $11,600
GRANT AWARD FROM THE STATE OF FLORIDA; CONTAINING A
REPEALER PROVISION AND SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.
Was introduced by Commissioner Plummer and seconded by Commissioner
Kennedy and was passed on its first reading by title by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and
announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commission and
to the public.
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20. FIRST READING ORDINANCE: ESTABLISH PROJECT "GEOGRAPHIC INFORMATION
SYSTEM"
Mrs. Kennedy: Hove 35.
Mr. Plummer: What is it? I, I second it. What is 35?
Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded.
Mrs. Kennedy: It's an accounting procedure.
Mr. Sergio Rodriguez: It's transferring funds from one account to another to
do the G.I.S.
Mr. Plummer: But what is the Graphic Information System for a quarter of a
million dollars?
Mr. Rodriguez: The Geographic Information System was approved already that
would put all the information....
Mr. Plummer: On microfilm?
Mr. Rodriguez: No, that would clarify - the date that we have is not correct
nowadays in land uses and we have to do this as part of the comprehensive plan
and you and I try to get us a grant for that.
Mr. Plummer: Thank you, sir.
Mrs. Kennedy: And this is not a request for additional funds?
Mr. Rodriguez: No, it's no new funds, no.
Mayor Suarez: Any further discussion of 34? Thirty-five rather. Read the
ordinance, Madam City Attorney.
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE NO. 10187 ADOPTED
DECEMBER 11, 1986, AS AMENDED, THE CAPITAL
IMPROVEMENTS APPROPRIATIONS ORDINANCE, BY ESTABLISHING
THE PROJECT ENTITLED 'GEOGRAPHIC INFORMATION SYSTEM•
PROJECT NO. 314232. IN AN AMOUNT OF $250,000 FROM THE
1986-87 GEOGRAPHIC DATA BASE ELEMENT, SPECIAL PROGRAMS
AND ACCOUNTS OF THE GENERAL FOND; CONTAINING A
REPEALER PROVISION AND A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.
Was introduced by Commissioner Kennedy and seconded by Commissioner
Plummer and was passed on its first reading by title by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosrrio Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plusmer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and
announced that copies were available to the mmbers of the City Commission and
to the public.
VURING ROLL CALL:
Mr. Dawkins: Reluctantly, yes.
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21. FIRST READING ORDINANCE: INCREASE APPROPRIATION FOR "BAKERY ARTS COMPLEX"
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Mr. Plummer: I'll move 36 with discussion.
Mrs. Kennedy: Second.
Mr. Plummer: Under discussion, Mr. Mayor, we had approved this monies prior.
They are having a tough problem up there. Let me tell you what I have met
with them and agreed to and, I hope, is acceptable to my colleagues. The - if
this is changed from a loan to a grant, that would be an, outward giving of
money. It has been agreed to that this allocation of one -fifty would, in
fact, be a loan which would be unamortized because of their problems with the
existing loans from the banks. I would move this item be transferred to an
unamortized loan with the following provision: With this loan would take them
in debt to six hundred thousand, approximately six hundred thousand dollars.
The property is assessed or appraised at nine hundred thousand dollars. With
that rationale as being correct, where if the day came that this project was
dead in the water, the city would be able to recoup its money, I feel is fair
to a project that is very, very fine for this community. So, subject to the
legal provision that, in fact, their numbers which they have given to me are
correct, I would move item 36 be granted as an unamortized loan.
Mr. Dawkins: I'd like to say that the only way I could vote for that is that
you include... in there that they do not come back to this commission for no
more money. Because every time - I mean, I keep saying over and over...
Mr. Plummer: I so include it.
Mrs. Kennedy: Yes.
Mr. Dawkins: OK, fine. You got me.
Mayor Suarez: With the proviso, we have a motion.
Mrs. Kennedy: That's reasonable.
Mr. Dawkins: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Second. Any...
Mr. Dawkins: In writing. They put in writing that they will not come back to
this commission for any more money ever.
Mayor Suarez: Call the roll.
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTION 1 OF ORDINANCE NO.
10187, ADOPTED DECEMBER 11, 1986, AS AMENDED, THE
CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT APPROPRIATIONS ORDINANCE, BY
INCREASING THE APPROPRIATION TO THE CAPITAL
IMPROVEMENT PROJECT NO. 322047, ENTITLED: "BAKERY ARTS
COMPLEX", BY $54,000 IN THE FORM OF A LOAN, TO BE
UNAMORTIZED AND NON -CUMULATIVE AS TO INTEREST AND
PRINCIPAL AND SUBORDINATE ONLY TO EXISTING AMORTIZED
FIRST AND SECOND MORTGAGE; TERMS TO RUN CONCURRENT
WITH THE RENEGOTIATED SUBJECT TO ANY NEW FIRST
MORTGAGE REFINANCING; SUBJECT TO REVIEW AT FIVE-YEAR
INTERVALS FROM THE DATE OF THIS APPROVAL; CONTAINING A
REPEALER PROVISION AND A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.
,
Was introduced by Commissioner Plummer and secondedby Commissioner
Dawkins and was passed on its first reading by title by the following vote-
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June ll, 1967
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and
announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commission and
to the public.
22. CREATE SPECIAL TAXING DISTRICT FOR BELLE MEADE ISLAND TO PROVIDE GUARD
SERVICE
Mayor Suarez: Item thirty-seven. I see the Belle Meade Island
representatives. Now I know why you're here.
Mr. Plummer: So moved.
Mr. Dawkins: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded. It looks like it's going forward, you're
at your own risk to make a statement if you want. Any discussion? Call the
roll on thirty-seven.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 87-539
A RESOLUTION APPROVING CREATION OF A SPECIAL TAXING
DISTRICT FOR BELLE MEADE ISLAND LOCATED IN THE CITY OF
MIAMI IN ORDER TO PROVIDE TWENTY-FOUR HOUR GUARD SERVICE,
SUBJECT TO COMPLIANCE WITH APPLICABLE METROPOLITAN DADE
COUNTY CODE REQUIREMENTS.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here
and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Dawkins, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Mayor Suarez: Where's Margarite?
Mr. Plummer: She's out on her houseboat.
Mayor Suarez: Is she?
Mr. Plummer: Is she out on her houseboat?
Mayor Suarez: Mr. Sherin apparently In not in good shape. OK, you've been
most eloquent today.
NOTE FOR THE RECORD: Item 38 was deferred to the afternoon.
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23. AUTHORIZE EXECUTION OF AGREEMENT WITH SPORTS AUTHORITY AND DADE COUNTY
FOR CONSTRUCTION OF WATER AND SEWAGE FACILITIES FOR THE MIAMI AREA
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Mayor Suarez: Item 39.
Mr. Plummer: Thirty-nine.
Mr. Odio: This is authorizing the manager to execute an agreement with Dade
County for construction of water and sanitary sewage facilities for the
provision of water and sewage disposal services for the Miami Sports Arena.
Mr. Plummer: How much?
Mr. Odio: $72,168.
Mr. Plummer: Who's paying is?
Mr. Odio: The Sports Authority.
Mr. Plummer: I move it.
Mrs. Kennedy: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded. Any discussion? Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 87-540
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE AN
AGREEMENT, IN A FORM ACCEPTABLE TO THE CITY ATTORNEY,
BETWEEN THE CITY OF MIAMI, THE MIAMI SPORTS AND EXHIBITION
AUTHORITY AND METROPOLITAN DADE COUNTY FOR THE
CONSTRUCTION OF WATER AND SANITARY SEWAGE FACILITIES AND
FOR THE PROVISION OF WATER AND SEWAGE DISPOSAL SERVICES
FOR THE MIAMI ARENA.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here
and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Kennedy, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
24. ACCEPT GRANT FROM RICOH CORPORATION AND ALLOCATE FUNDS FOR JAPANESE
GARDEN ON WATSON ISLAND
!Mayor Suarez: item 40. Friends of the Japanese Gardens. We're accepting a
grant from Ricoh.
Mr. Plummer: From who?
Mayor Suaree: Ricoh Corporation.
Mrs. Keanedys Ricoh.
Mr. Odio: Ricoh Corporation. On behalf of the Friends of the Japanese.
Mayor Suarez: You know, the computer guys.
Mr. Plummer: Oh, yen, sure.
Mrs. Kennedy: Move it.
Mr. Jack Bads (off mike): That's the - yes, that's the surviving corporation.
Mrs. Kennedy: Move it.
Mr. Dawkins: Second.
Mr. Plummer: Second.
Mr. Odio: But, wait a minute. They are also requesting $5,000 from the city
to continue their efforts and operations on our behalf.
Mr. Dawkins: Well, why did they give three and want us to give five? I
mean...
Mayor Suarez:
Well,
they're
doing the fix up and clean up for the city.
Mr. Dawkins:
I take
back
my
second.
Mr. Odio: I'll take it out of - the parks department should take it out of
their own budget.
Mr. Dawkins: Well, I take back my second.
Mayor Suarez: Second's withdrawn. Go ahead, Jack.
Mr. Bads: What they do with - what they do with that money is they have a
fund raising event each year. They take the proceeds from that fund raising
event and they maintain the Japanese Gardens annually for the city. I think
it's to our benefit to do that.
Mr. Plummer: But it's three thousand more than we had before.
Mr. Bads: Yes, sir, that's correct.
Mayor Suarez: He means as to the five thousand.
Mr. Plummer: Well, five thousand we're going to - well, excuse me, if we
didn't have that money, we're going to spend eight thousand, so we're three
thousand ahead of the game.
Mr. Bads: Yes, sir.
Mr. Plummer: The problem is, that we haven't been spending the eight thousand
in the past and they want to make sure that that thing is not neglected and I
can't blame them.
Mr. Bads: Yes, sir, they - the corporation is also taking a look at making a
major donation to the city to do a complete redevelopment of the Japanese
Gardens.
Mr. Plummer: We'd love to talk to them. I move it.
Mrs. Kennedy: I did it.
Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded. Any discussion? Call the roll.
37 June 13, 1987
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The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Kennedy, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 87-541
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ACCEPT A
GRANT IN THE AMOUNT OF $3,000 FROM THE RICOH CORPORATION
ON BEHALF OF THE FRIENDS OF THE JAPANESE GARDENS, INC., A
NOT -FOR -PROFIT ORGANIZATION, FURTHER AUTHORIZING AN
ALLOCATION NOT TO EXCEED $5,000 FROM SPECIAL PROGRAMS AND
ACCOUNTS, MATCHING FUNDS FOR GRANTS FUND, TO SAID NOT -FOR -
PROFIT ORGANIZATION, SAID FUNDS TO BE UTILIZED FOR FUND-
RAISING EFFORTS, MAINTENANCE AND REPAIR OF THE CITY -OWNED
JAPANESE GARDEN ON WATSON ISLAND; SUBJECT TO AND
CONTINGENT UPON COMPLIANCE WITH SUCH CONDITIONS AND
LIMITATIONS AS MAY BE PRESCRIBED BY THE CITY OF MIAMI.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here
and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
25. EMERGENCY ORDINANCE: AMEND SPECIAL REVENUE FUND "PARK DEVELOPMENT FUND"
Mayor Suarez: This is the accompanying ordinance...
Mr. Plummer: Move it.
Mayor Suarez: Forty-one is moved. It's an emergency...
Mrs. Kennedy: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Seconded. What's the emergency? Fact that otherwise the...
Mr. Plummer: We don't get it.
Mayor Suarez: ... gardens will be...
Mr. Eads: The emergency In to get involved in the program and get it - to
save money in the long run and get it - get it accomplished.
Mr. Plummer: Plus, it's too long been a disgrace over there.
Mayor Suarez: It really has. Any further discussion? Do we have a motion
and a second?
Mrs. Kennedy: Yes.
Mr. Plummer: Yes.
n
Mayor Suarez: Read the ordinance.
Mr. Plummer: Forty-one. I'd like an updating, by the way, on that boat ramp
over there. What's happening?
Mr. Bads: The boat ramp that the Miami Outboard Club - is that the one
you're...
Mr. Plummer: Willing to pay for.
Mr. Eads: Yes, sir. I can't tell you off the top of my head, I'll get you a
status...
Mr. Plummer: Well, send me a memo. Call the roll.
Mayor Suarez: Call the roll.
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN EMERGENCY ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTION 1 OF ORDINANCE
NO. 9743, ADOPTED NOVEMBER 16, 1983, AS AMENDED, WHICH
ESTABLISHED THE SPECIAL REVENUE FUND ENTITLED "PARK
DEVELOPMENT FUND," BY INCREASING RESOURCES AND
APPROPRIATIONS IN THE AMOUNT OF $8,000 CONSISTING OF
$3,000 IN PRIVATE DONATIONS AND $5,000 IN CITY
MATCHING FUNDS FOR GRANTS; CONTAINING A REPEALER
PROVISION AND SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.
Was introduced by Commissioner Plummer and seconded by Commissioner
Kennedy, for adoption as an emergency measure and dispensing with the
- requirement of reading same on two separate days, which was agreed to by the
following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Whereupon the Commission on motion of Commissioner Plummer and seconded
by Commissioner Kennedy, adopted said ordinance by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
SAID ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO. 10285.
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and
announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commission and
to the public.
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June 11, 1907
26. DISCUSSION AND TEMPORARY DEFERRAL OF CODESIGNATION OF STREETS IN THE
LAPIN QUARTER (SEE LABEL d37)
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Mrs. Kennedy: Mr. Mayor, I see Willy Bermello in the audience and there is an
emergency issue that we have to tackle today. The Vice President is arriving
to our city on June the 17th and this is the last meeting before we have the
codesignation of the streets in place in the Latin Quarter area. So we just -
Willy, what you would like for us is to approve the...
Mayor Suarez: The final list of the names.
Mr. Willy Bermello: Yes, Mr. Mayor, and commissioners, we'd like to have them
by way of resolution...
Mayor Suarez: Give us your name and address, Willy, for the record.
Mr. Bermello: My name is Willy Bermello, Chairman of the Latin Quarter Review
Board and my address if 55 Almeria, Coral Gables.
Mr. Plummer: Have we seen the final list?
Mr. Bermello: You should have it, Commissioner Plummer...
Mr. Odic: You have the final list. There is only one problem. Let me get
right to the point so we can - we don't have to go through...
Mr. Plummer: What's the problem?
Mr. Odic: Commissioner Carollo requested that the name Ponce de Leon and the
other one was...
Mrs. Kennedy: Hernando de Soto.
Mr. Bermello: Hernando de Soto.
Mr. Odic: Hernando de Soto be - the board refused to - at this point that
they...
Mr. Plummer: The board's got a problem.
Mr. Odic: The board has a problem. That's the bottom line, right Willy?
Let's not get through all the names again.
Mr. Bermello: That's - correct. The board considered it at length and we had
two problems. The first one was one of confusion traffic wise. Ponce de Leon
is one of the major streets in Coral Gables and we felt that if there would be
any problem, it would be with that particular street - confusion, general
public, emergency services.
Mr. Plummer: OK, I'll tell you. Look, we can't stop it, we don't want to
stop it because of the 17th. You pick out two names in that list and we're
going to leave them blank.
.Mr. Odic: Here, from here.
Mayor Suarez: Willy, it's probably the best bet. You know why? I just heard
from Commissioner Carollo's assistant that he would have liked to have been
present for this discussion...
Mr. Plummer: Well, that's why I'm saying, leave them blank and we'll argue
about them later, but he has that right.
Mayor Suarez: ... and that : that's what I'm saying, that's what I'm saying.
Maybe it we leave a couple blank...
Mr. Plummer: Pick two out that you want to leave blank. Can we have a list,
please? I haven't seen the list.
40 Jae 11, 1947
Mayor Suarez: The present concept, Henry, Mary, is that we would leave a
couple of streets blank; the names blank as of now. That's Commissioner
Vice - I Bean it's Vice -!Mayor Plunmer's idea in case that Commissioner Carollo
wants to further discuss the naming of those two.
Mr. Plusseer: Which two do you want to take out?
Mr. Bermello: Cissioner Plummer, I don't want to sound like I'm not
cooperative, because I really have for the last year and a half, have done my
best. And we really had a very lengthy discussion with the commission, with
the members of the board...
Mr. Plummer: Sure.
Mr. Bermello: ... some of them are upset already with some of the changes
that have happened. They weren't even wanting to come back to this
commission. We basically are putting it in your hands. Whatever changes you
want to make. Even if you want to put Ponce de Leon and Hernando de Soto, go
ahead and put it on.
Mr. Plummer: Well, but we're asking you for advice.
Mrs. Kennedy: Yes, but the problem is there.
Mr. Bermello: Our advice is that you should approve it the way it is.
Mr. Plummer: No, advice is that there are going to be changes by this
commission, Willy, OK? Now, the question is, we'd like to work with you
rather than just at random picking two names that maybe we could pick two
lesser names. There's no question, somebody's going to be hurt. OK, because
two names are going to be deleted. Now, you know, I'll acquiesce to my Latin
brothers here which are the names. But I think Commissioner Carollo has - his
rights have to be respected.
Mr. Bermello: And we respect those rights...
Mr. Plummer: Surely.
Mr. Bermello: We respect those rights. I think if early on, the emphasis
would have been on explorers, maybe we would have taken a different tack.
Mayor Suarez: Well, it's only a procedural thing. We might very well vote to
overrule his desire on this. I'll tell you, I don't really care what name,
you know, any one particular name - I want to get this project completed.
But, you want to come back in the afternoon when he's present?
Mrs. Kennedy: I was just going to suggest, why don't you come back this
afternoon. He'll be here. Maybe you can convince him at that point.
Mr. Bermello: I can't be here this afternoon. It's up to you. Maybe there's
another way of working it for the Vice President. I'm just doing it so that,
you know, we have something that's official.
Mrs. Kennedy: Yes, I'd like to see something official...
Mr. Plummer: Well, wait a minute. Official you have no problem with. This
commission has passed and approved the four streets that are for certain and
no further discussion. That was Ronald Reagan Boulevard, Teddy Roosevelt
Boulevard, Flagler Street remains the same and Calls Ocho remains the same.
So as far as the 17th of June is concerned, that has been done and approved
and we even went further one step to try and expedite getting the sign ready
for the 17th.
Mr. Bermello: And it will be there.
Mr. Plusimer: OK, so that's no problem as far as the 17th is concerned. What
we're basically talking about is the internal streets which really don't have
to be done by the 17th. Is that correct?
Mr. Bermello: That's correct.
41 .Tune 11, 1967
Mr. Plummer: OK. So, either you come back this afternoon or let's just defer
it over to the next meeting.
Mr. Sermello: The only thing is that we can have the Vice President not
relate to the entire program, but the whole reason for him being here was not
only Ronald Reagan Avenue but the program itself.
Mr. Plummer: I understand.
Mrs. Kennedy: Right, instead of saying, we have tentatively approved, you
know, say, this is what the commission approved. And have something really in
place.
Mr. Plummer: But that's what I wanted to but who's going to pick what two
names are going to be deleted?
Mr. Odio: Let's pick them out with a dash board.
Mr. Plummer: No, that's not...
Mrs. Kennedy: No.
Mr. Bermello: Do you have any thoughts? I mean - we - our position is
whatever the commission's pleasure is. We just have run out of ideas. You
know, frankly, we've been...
Mayor Suarez: Well, I'll tell you what, Willy. For myself, I would be ready
to vote on this now and I'll go ahead and memorialize my vote in favor of your
plan. If the commissioner wants to reconsider it in the afternoon, I'll have
to allow him to - I have to vote to allow him to reconsider. You won't be
here... but it won't change my vote so for myself, you don't have to worry.
Mr. Bermello: Our position is that we're against Carollo's request. Our
position is we can't - with this request, making those changes, we have
problems in the fact that we believe that we have not improved the list, we've
made it worse because of the confusion with Ponce de Leon Boulevard.
Mrs. Kennedy: Yes.
Mayor Suarez: We can proceed one of two ways, either we can take a vote on it
now and reconsider it later when the commissioner is here or we can postpone
the vote. We've heard your presentation. I know how I'm going to vote and
you don't need to be around to convince me in the afternoon, Willy, if you've
got other things to do.
Mr. Plummer: Well, let's do it legal.
the afternoon.
Unidentified male voice: Forty-one.
I'll move item 42 be deferred until
Mr. Plummer: Forty-one, I'm sorry. Wait a minute. No, this is not an item.
Mayor Suarez: There's no item. There's no item.
Mrs. Kennedy: No, it's not an item.
Mr. Plummere Oh, OK, well, we don't need an official action then.
Mayor Suarez: It's tabled until...
Mr. Plummer: Until this afternoon.
Mayor Suarez: But, for myself, I've heard your presentation and you don't
need to come back for my vote.
Mr. Bermello: OK.
I
Mr. Dawkins: You guys already agreed that 17th will not be Ronald Reagan
above in the ghetto, so you got my vote.
Mr. Plummer: Twelfth Avenue. Twelfth Avenue.
42
Mayor Suarez: He's got his vote so you got two right here.
Mr. $ermello: Thank you very much.
Mr. Plummer: OK.
Mayor Suarez: Thank you, Willy. Well, we have to make sure is that that item
comes back in the afternoon because if he's not here to remind me.
Mr. Plummer: Yes, I'll put it right here.
Mayor Suarez: Madam Commissioner, do you want to remind me to bring that back
as an emergency item.
Mrs. Kennedy: Yes, I will. Sure.
27. AUTHORIZE AGREEMENT WITH JANIS JOHNSON FOR PLANNING SERVICES TO UPDATE
ZONING ORDINANCE 9500
Mayor Suarez: OK, item forty-two.
Mr. Sergio Rodriguez: Item forty-two is the contract to work on the 9500
ordinance that you instructed us to start working as.
Mr. Plummer: Did, did you change it?
Mr. Rodriguez: We changed it and that's what it shows now, the ...
Mr. Plummer: Is Commissioner Dawkins happy?
Mr. Dawkins: No. The only problem I got, Commissioner - is that for thirty-
eight thousand dollars, you can hire a person permanent. And this person will
be here, committed to the city, knowing they've got a job, and will do a good
job. We're going to bring a person in as a consultant and they're going to
stay here until they can find something better to do and they're going to
leave. I mean, in my opinion only, if this position is so important, this
should be a permanent person.
Mr. Plummer: All right, speak against that. If you can.
Mr. Rodriguez: The issue on this is whether we should hire permanent people
to do a job or try to get something that has a time frame and get it over with
and finish it without hiring a person permanently that have other benefits
like retirement and so on added to it. And we have been following the
directions that we have in trying to cut back on future expenses. Try to deal
with all these issues by having consultants come in for one year and leaving.
Mr. Plummer: Are you trying to justify that this is a cheaper way to proceed?
Mr. Rodriguez: Much cheaper.
Mr. Dawkins: And are you telling me that this individual - I mean that what
this individual In going to do will be completed in one year? Are you telling
me that?
Mr. Plummer: Fourteen months, wasn't it?
Mr. Rodriguez: Depends on the action that you're taking.
Mr. Dawkins: No, no, no, no, no...
Mr. Rodriguez: I cannot tell you that.
Mr. Dawkins: No depend - no depend. Will, yes, or no? Will this person
completely revise, throw out, and discard the 9500 ordinance and be - bring it
back like we want it? In one year?
43 June 11; 1907
Mr. Plummer: Not single-handedly.
Mr. Davkins: Beg pardon?
Mr. Plummer: Not single-handedly.
Mr. Rodriguez: We're projecting it to finish it in one year.
Mr. Dawkins: Well, my vote is no, but go ahead. I'm voting no.
Mr. Plummer: Well, all right. I'm voting yes only based on the fact that
you're telling we I'm saving 50 percent and this girl has done a good job in
the position which she has worked. And she is familiar, she knows the works
and the ropes of this community. And if you're telling me that I'm saving 50
percent, I've got to vote yes, so I'll move forty-two.
Mrs. Kennedy: I'll second forty-two.
Mr. Dawkins: Explain to me how you're saving 50 percent.
Mr. Rodriguez: I didn't say that, what I - but I - what I...
Mr. Dawkins: OK, well that's what J.L. said, so somebody explain it...
Mr. Plummer: No, I...
Mr. Odic: Well, let..
Mr. Rodriguez: What we're saying...
Mr. Odic: Yes, I can...
Mr. Dawkins: Somebody explain it to me.
Mr. Odic: I can say it.
Mr. Rodriguez: Yes, OK.
Mr. Odic: We're saving the fringe benefits, commissioner...
Mr. Dawkins: No, no, no, no,no. Show me where you're saving 50 percent.
Mr. Odic: The fringe benefits with pension plan and all the benefits that go
with the city employer are 51 percent.
Mr. Dawkins: You're not - this lady - you're not going to pay - you're not
paying her enough to cover her own insurance and right here you say that, hold
it, hold it...
Mr. Odic: I don't know what...
Mr. Dawkins: ... that you're going to pay her mileage and she lives in
Delray. What mileage are you going to - I mean, you see, I hear you, see, if
you're being fair, you see, but you're going to raise a consultancy fee to
cover all of these things that you say we're leaving out and they're written
in. Come on. I man, that's all.
Mr. Odic: Commissioner, let see explain something. This is a one year
expense. If you put this person on the permanent payroll, we have to
contribute to her pension forever.
Mr. Dawkins: It's a one year expense, Mr. !tanager, and it's costing you the
sane thing it would cost you...
Mr. Odiot No, sir.
Mr. Dawkins: ... if the individual was hired, OK?
Mr. Odio: No, sir.
Mayor Suaress ilby are we agreeing to pay anything other than just a flat fee?
' tiby expeAses and why mileage or anything else? I don't get it.
44 June 110 1987
Mr. Rodriguez: We're paying flat fee. The person incurs some of her mileage
to Mork for us to go to a meeting or to go to a...
Mr. Dawkins: We're paying that anyway.
Mr. Rodriguez: that's reimbursed. That's a standard procedure in any
contract.
Mr. Kennedy: That's standard procedure.
Mr. Odio: We would have to pay that if it were a city employee anyway.
Mayor Suarez: Well, that has to - that has to be approved by a supervisor and
the manager. If she incurs those kind of expenses.
Mr. Rodriguez: Right. Of course. Of course.
Mr. Dawkins: Let me make a statement and be finished with this, OK? I sit
here constantly and I see people leave the city of Miami, OK? And go into
consultancies and live a better life than when they were working, OK? We've
got people now who are fully retired from the city of Miami at $60,000 plus
salaries a year, and then you bring them back as consultants because can't
nobody do the job but them. If you would hire somebody and cross train them,
when these individuals leave the city of Miami, you would no longer have to
bring them back as a consultant because nobody else knows .what the hell
they're doing. But yet every time you guys, and I don't mind saying it, when
Howard Gary came here for a damn consultancy, you guys didn't hire him. OK?
I don't know no Latin that's been here and come back as a consultant, OK? You
got two consultants over there in the computer. They're gone. But you still
keep bringing in consultants. When you want a consultant, you bring it in,
OK? When you don't want one, you don't bring it in. That's all I'm saying.
Let's be fair.
Mr. Plummer: Where are we?
Mayor Suarez: We have a motion and a second. Any further discussion on this
item? Call the roll. Item forty-two.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 87-542
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO AN
AGREEMENT, IN SUBSTANTIALLY THE FORM ATTACHED, WITH JANIS
JOHNSON, FOR PROFESSIONAL PLANNING SERVICES OVER A ONE-
YEAR PERIOD PERTAINING TO THE UPDATE OF ZONING ORDINANCE
9500, SUBJECT TO THE AVAILABILITY OF FUNDS, WITH FUNDS FOR
THE COST OF SAID SERVICES DURING FY 186-187 IN THE AMOUNT
OF 438,270 BEING ALLOCATED FROM SPECIAL PROGRAMS AND
ACCOUNTS, CONTINGENT FUND.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here
and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Kennedy, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: RosCommissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
DURING ROLL CALL:
Mayor Suarez: I'll vote yes in the hope that you'll get 9500 revised and In
the future we'll be looking to have all these things done in house with the
fine staff we supposedly have.
45 June Il, 1987
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28. APPROVE EMERGENCY CUSTODIAL SERVICES ON INTERIM BASIS AT POLICE
ADMINISTRATION BUILDING BY HOWARD'S PROFESSIONAL SERVICES
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Mayor Suarez: Item 43.
Mr. Plummer: Move it.
Mrs. Kennedy: Second.
Mr. Plummer: Justify the emergency. Justify the emergency on 43 - custodial
service.
Mr. Odio: This service became needed on an emergency basis because of the
result of the termination of the contract with the previous vendor. And we
need to continue the cleaning services at the police station building.
Mr. Plummer: Was this on a bid?
Mr. Odio: Yes, sir, but the extension is not, and now you will see another
item here giving the bid out for the permanent services. This was an
extension...
Mr. Plummer: It doesn't say that. It doesn't say any...
Mr. Odio: It's to ratify an emergency needed that existed because we had to
approve an extension of the purchase order for custodial services on an
interim basis at the police administration. What we did, we had to keep these
people on for 415,000...
Mr. Plummer: Sir, sir, I'm sorry. My agenda does not use the word
"extension," It says, "an interim basis."
Mr. Odio: Well, I'm sorry. Interim means temporary.
Mr. Plummer: The only thing I'm questioning is, was it, was it put out to
bid?
Mr. Odio: What happened is, Commissioner... Yes, it was...
Mr. Plummer: Fine, thank you.
Mr. Odio: ... and you're going to award these services in the next -
somewhere in here.
Mr. Plummer: Thank you. I move it.
Mrs. Kennedy: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded. Any discussion? Call the roll.
G
46 June 111 1987
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION 90. 87-543
A RESOLUTION RATIFYING, APPROVING AND CONFIRMING, BY A
4/5THS AFFIRMATIVE VOTE OF THE MEMBERS OF THE CITY
COMMISSION, THE ACTION OF THE CITY MANAGER IN MAKING
FINDINGS THAT AN EMERGENCY NEED EXISTED IN APPROVING THE
EXTENSION OF A PURCHASE ORDER FOR THE PROVISION OF
EMERGENCY CUSTODIAL SERVICES ON AN INTERIM BASIS AT THE
POLICE ADMINISTRATION BUILDING TO HOWARD•S PROFESSIONAL
SERVICES IN THE AMOUNT OF $15,639.60; FURTHER ALLOCATING
SAID TOTAL AMOUNT FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF GENERAL SERVICES
ADMINISTRATION 1986-87 OPERATING BUDGET ACCOUNT NO.
421001-340.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here
and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Kennedy, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
29. APPOINT LOU NUTA TO AD HOC MINORITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR MIAMI ARENA
Mayor Suarez: Item 44.
Mr. Plummer: I appoint Mr. Lou Nuts.
Mr. Dawkins: Second.
Mr. Odio: Lou Nuts?
Mr. Plummer: Nuts, N-U-T-A. You know Lou Nuts.
Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded.
Mrs. Kennedy: Yes.
Mr. Plummer: Yes.
This is your appointment that was missing?
Mayor Suarez: Any further discussion? Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 87-544
A RESOLUTION APPOINTING AN INDIVIDUAL TO SERVE AS A MEMBER
OF THE AD HOC MINORITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR THE
DEVELOPMENT, CONSTRUCTION AND OPERATION OF THE MIAMI
ARENA.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here
and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
'Upon being seconded by Commissioner Dawkins, the resolution Man passed
and adopted by the following vote-
47 June 11, 14$'
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•
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOBS: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
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30. ALLOCATE $15,000 FOR RENT OF MARINE STADIUM FOR POPS BY THE BAY CONCERT
Mr. Odio: There is an item 59 - 59. It was a - scheduled as a personal
appearance for 4:00 p.m.
Mr. Plummer: Why can't we take any of this - oh, I see, it's...
Mr. Odio: I think you could - you - well, I... I can recommend 59. We don't
need a personal appearance for that if you...
Mr. Plummer: I move item 59.
Mrs. Kennedy: Second.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, 59 he said we can take care of.
Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded. Any discussion? Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 87-545
A RESOLUTION ALLOCATING AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $15,000
FROM SPECIAL PROGRAMS AND ACCOUNTS, CONTINGENT FUND, TO
COVER COSTS OF RENTAL OF THE MIAMI MARINE STADIUM FOR THE
1987 POPS BY THE BAY, INC. CONCERT SERIES TO BE HELD JULY
4, 11, AND 18, 1987 AT SAID STADIUM AT A BASE RENTAL RATE
OF $5,000 PER CONCERT; SUBJECT TO AND CONTINGENT UPON
COMPLIANCE WITH SUCH CONDITIONS AND LIMITATIONS AS MAY BE
PRESCRIBED BY THE CITY OF MIAMI.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here
and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Kennedy, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
48 June 11, 1987
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31. CLOSE PARTS OF FLAGLER STREET FOR DOWNTOWN DESK DASH
Hr. Pl»aers Are you recommending S67
Mr. Odio: Yes, I do.
Mr. Plummer: You're re - you're - I move 56 if you recommend it.
Mr. Odio: Yes, sir.
Mayor Suarez: Moved.
Mrs. Kennedy: I won last year. I second.
Mayor Suarez: Seconded. Any discussion? Call the roll.
Mr. Plummer: Conflict of interest.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved
its adoption:
MOTION NO. 87-546
A MOTION GRANTING REQUEST FROM REPRESENTATIVES OF THE
DOWNTOWN MIAMI BUSINESS ASSOCIATION IN CONNECTION WITH
CLOSURE OF PARTS OF FLAGLER STREET FOR THE DOWNTOWN DESK
DASH TO BE HELD ON JULY 17, 1987.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Kennedy, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
32. SCHEDULE PUBLIC HEARING ON PROPOSED REVISION OF OCCUPATIONAL LICENSING
CODE
Mayor Suarez: We have a request from the city attorney's office. A
resolution setting a public hearing on the city's occupational licensing
revision. That is the one we're going to revise by establishing a cap on
occupational licenses. This is only to schedule said hearing and the
resolution reads, Section I: " A public hearing to consider proposed revision
of city code, chapter 31 of the city's occupational licensing code, is hereby
scheduled for June 25, 1987, at 2:45 p.m." I am advised that this is needed
to make sure that the world knows that we're going to consider a whole scale
revision of that ordinance. Do I have a motion on this?
Mr. Plummer: So moved.
Mrs. Kennedy: So moved.
Mayor Suarez: Seconded. Any discussion? Call the roll. ,
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The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 87-547
A RESOLUTION SETTING JUNE 25, 1987 AT 2:45 P.M. AS THE
DATE FOR A PUBLIC HEARING ON A PROPOSED REVISION OF CITY
CODE CHAPTER 31, THE CITY'S OCCUPATIONAL LICENSING CODE.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here
and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Kennedy, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
33. CLOSE STREETS, AUTHORIZE ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES FOR 4TH OF JULY HAITIAN
CELEBRATION
Mr. Odio: Item, 60.
Mr. Plummer: Six zero.
Mrs. Kennedy: You're recommending it?
Mr. Odio: Yes, sir. Yes, ma'am.
Mrs. Kennedy: Move it.
Mr. Plummer: Second.
Mrs. Kennedy: Call the roll.
Mayor Suarez: Which is that? I'm sorry.
Mr. Plummer: Six zero.
Mrs. Kennedy: Moved and seconded.
Mayor Suarez: Noncontroversial, I presume.
Mr. Plummer: Yes. Closing the streets and selling of beer.
Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded. Any discussion? Call the roll. The
Haitian -American Democratic Club.
Mr. Odlo: Wall, let m:e... may I point out that they wanted $7,000 and I'm
recommending against the funding part of it. I'm for the closure of the
streets and the sale of beer and wine, but not the $7,000 unless you want to,
but I'm recommending against that part.
Mr. Plummer: OK, we're approving what•: on here.
Mr. Odlo: Without the money.
Mr. Plummer: Right.
Mr. Odio: OK.
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Mayor Suarez: OK, on the closing of the streets, call the roll.
Mr. Plummer: And the selling of the beer and pine.
Mayor Suarez: And the selling and the beer which...
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Kennedy, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 87-548
A RESOLUTION CONCERNING THE 4TH OF JULY HAITIAN
CELEBRATION TO BE CONDUCTED BY THE HAITIAN AMERICAN
DEMOCRATIC CLUB OF GREATER MIAMI ON JULY 4TH, 1987,
PROVIDING FOR THE CLOSURE OF DESIGNATED STREETS TO THROUGH
VEHICULAR TRAFFIC; ESTABLISHING A PEDESTRIAN MALL SUBJECT
TO THE ISSUANCE OF PERMITS BY THE DEPARTMENTS OF POLICE
AND FIRE, RESCUE AND INSPECTION SERVICES; AUTHORIZING A
ONE -DAY PERMIT TO SELL BEER AND WINE IN CONNECTION WITH
SAID EVENT SUBJECT TO THE ISSUANCE OF ALL PERMITS REQUIRED
BY LAW; FURTHER ESTABLISHING AN AREA PROHIBITED BY LAW;
FURTHER ESTABLISHING AN AREA PROHIBITED TO RETAIL PEDDLERS
DURING THE PERIOD OF THE EVENT; CONDITIONED UPON THE
REQUIREMENT THAT THE CITY WILL BE INSURED AGAINST ANY
POTENTIAL LIABILITY AND UPON ORGANIZERS PAYING FOR ALL
NECESSARY COSTS OF CITY SERVICES ASSOCIATED WITH SAID
EVENT.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here
and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
34. DISCUSSION CONCERNING COMMISSION CONTROL OF GRANTS TO CHARITABLE GROUPS
TO ENSURE THAT MONIES ARE ALLOCATED APPROPRIATELY (SEE LABEL #53)
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, let me - I mean, are we just up for discussion now?
I mean we've done all we can do. I would like to impose upon my colleagues to
consider the following: At the last meeting we discussed about helping the
needy and the homeless and all of that. And we attached something to that
ordinance that if we did, in fact, grant money, that this commission would
have the right to not only audit the event, but also have approval or veto
over the spending of those so called charitable dollars. I think we ought to
extend that to all groups that we give monies to. And I would ask at this
time, whether it be a - I don't know how to do it as a policy or whether it be
done by resolution, or by ordinance. I think this commission has an
obligation to make sure that when we give taxpayers money to support or become
in conjunction therewith, that we also have an obligation to make sure that
that money is spent wisely and in the areas. Madam City Attorney, I would
like that attached to every grant of money that we give in the future. Now,
do I do it by the policy, do I do it by an ordinance, or do I - how do I go
about that so that it is understood, fair to everyone long before they come up
here and ask that they're knowing that that is what the policy of this
commission is going to be if they are the recipient of those monies.
Me. Dougherty: We'll prepare a policy and have you pass it by resolution.
Mr. Plummer: I'd like to do it this afternoon.
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Ms. Dougherty: OK.
Mr. Plummer: I really Mould because I think we have an obligation to make
sure that the monies raised in these charitable events where we participate,
does, in fact, go where it's going to and that it is not spent for anything
other than that designation.
THEREUPON THE CITY COMMISSION WENT INTO RECESS AT
10:28 A.M. AND RECONVENED AT 2119 P.M., WITH ALL
MEMBERS OF THE CITY COMMISSION FOUND TO BE PRESENT
EXCEPT COMMISSIONER CAROLLO.
35. APPROVE DISTRIBUTION OF LETTER FROM FLORIDA LAWYERS LEGAL INSURANCE
CORPORATION TO CITY EMPLOYEES OFFERING ENROLLMENT INTO THEIR PLAN
Mayor Suarez: Can we, Madam City Attorney... This is an emergency item. I
know they've got to make this offer, prepaid legal help available to the
employees and have printed I don't know how many circulars. Do you have any
problem with the wording that I left there in front of you which states that
the city of Miami is offering an opportunity... Does that, in any way, make it
seem like we're liable or sponsors in any way other than just - create any
potential legal liability for us?
Mr. Plummer: Well, how much trouble is it if you were to change the wording
just a little bit?
Inaudible off mike response by Jamal Wyan.
Mr. Plummer: See, the problem is, as I see it, OK, it could be misunderstood
as misleading. That's the thing. It is not and I don't think that we have a
liability problem. But, if you had wording there that says this - an
opportunity is being afforded you through the city, that's one thing. Do you
have a liability problem with that or not? That's really the whole thing.
Ms. Dougherty: I don't have a liability problem.
Mr. Plummer: Then I move that this matter be - do you have problems with this
letter going out as it is drafted?
Ms. Dougherty: The only problem is the one you articulated. It just could be
misunderstood, but there's not a liability problem.
Mr. Plummer: Weil, did you see any problem for the city?
Ms. Dougherty: Not from a sense of liability, no.
Mr. Plummer: What is your area of concern?
Mr. Odio: Weil, I was told liability. That we...
Mr. Plummer: Well, she says no and she's the legal.
Mr. Odio: Well, then...
Mr. Plummer: She overrides you. I move that we approve this letter to be a -
passed out as written.
Mayor Suarez: So moved. I'll second it.
Ms. Dougherty: Come to approve the letters first.
Mayor Suarez: We have a motion and a second, Madam Commissioner, you're the
chair.
Mrs. Kennedy: OK, for what? What is it?
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Mayor Suarez: Approve the wording of the letter offering prepaid legal
services.
Mr. Plummers To approve this letter with no liability to the city of
something we approved prior and that is legal insurance on - in other words,
city employees could sign up for so much a month to have legal insurance in
which these gentlemen would represent them at $4.68 a month.
Mrs. Kennedy: OK, yes.
Mr. Plummer: No, you're running the meeting.
Mayor Suarers It's a motion and a second, you have to just call the roll.
Me. Dougherty: I think you should write to every employee...
Mr. Plummer: Call the roll. Call the roil.
Mrs. Kennedy: Call the roll.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved
Its adoption:
MOTION NO. 87-549
A MOTION APPROVING REQUEST BY THE FLORIDA LAWYERS LEGAL
INSURANCE CORPORATION, TO DISTRIBUTE A LETTER AS PRESENTED
BEFORE THE CITY OF MIAMI COMMISSION TODAY, TO ALL CITY
EMPLOYEES IN CONNECTION WITH OFFERING ENROLLMENT INTO ITS
LEGAL INSURANCE PLAN.
Upon being seconded by Mayor Suarez, the motion was passed and adopted
by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Mayor Suarez: Go and sin no more.
36. (A) - ALLOCATE $267,000 FOR COMPLETION OF WORK AT MIAMARINA RELATING TO
WATER PRESSURE MALFUNCTION; REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS ORDERED FOR PIER "A"
(B) - INSTRUCT CITY ATTORNEY TO FILE SUIT AGAINST GUILTY PARTY IN
CONNECTION WITH MIAMARINA WATER PRESSURE MALFUNCTION
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Manager, it was indicated to me and Mr. Lou Soto would like
to go back to his little desk at the Herald, you want to bring up the issue
about the Miamarina4
Mr. Odio: Oh, yes, sir. I'll let the city attorney explain why we need to
bring this up today and...
Mr. Plummer: OK.
Ms. Dougherty: Mayor, Mr. Commissioners, as you know, the Rouse Company hired
the architect and the engineers to build the marina. The city, on the other
hand, entered into a contract with the contractor that actually built the
marina from the plans and specifications. At the present time, we have - been
unable to get the water pressure at 200 gallons per minute in either of the
piers; either pier A, B, or C. We suspect at this time, it could be a design,
construction, or even a products problem in the facility. What we'd like to
do is get your permission to do three things. One, put the contractor,
architect, Rouse and the engineer on notice that they have so much time to
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come in and cure it. To get the water pressure correct so we can open the
piers. Failing that, we also want your permission to spend the money to
correct it ourselves and go after the responsible party.
Mr. Plummer: OK, just for the record, I will move that, OK. That you be
instructed to proceed with the work and get it completed.
Mr. Odio: We need to spend in the...
Mr. Plummer: Seventy-two thousand dollars.
Mr. Odio: No, sir. We need up to two hundred and sixty-seven thousand
dollars of repairs needed so we can open the marina.
Mr. Plummer: Which you feel - which you feel will be regained through court.
Mr. Odio: Yes, sir, because we have also bonds - am I correct that we have
performance bonds? We must - there must be performance bonds in place that...
Mr. Plummer: OK, first of all, let me move the item.
Mrs. Kennedy: Second.
Mr. Plummer: OK, now, on discussion.
Mr. Odio: I need to know this. Do we have a performance bond in place from
the architect, engineer?
Ms. Dougherty: The problem is, the performance bond - I don't know because we
didn't hire them, but I assume so and it would run to Rouse's favor.
Mr. Odio: The problem is, commissioner, and I refuse to pay...
Mr. Plummer: OK, I want - I want to go one step further...
Mr. Odio: OK.
Mr. Plummer: OK? So there's no question. I want to approve the allocation
of monies needed to complete the job. I want to also approve, at the same
time...
Mr. Odio: Yes, sir.
Mr. Plummer: ... who ever the city deems as the guilty party to be taken
Immediately to court if they don't settle. I want to incorporate that in
both.
Mr. Odic: Did you hear that?
Mr. Plummer: Whether it be the architect, who happens to be a good friend of
mine or the contractor, or who ever.
Mr. Odio: Yes, sir.
Mr. Plummer: Who ever the city, I want to give you that approval right now,
OK? That who ever the city deems is the responsible party, is who you will go
after in court if they refuse to settle.
Mr. Odio: Yes, sir. OK. Commissioner, may I ask you a question? I don't
know if to - if we should attach this to the same resolution. We need two
hundred and sixty-seven thousand to repair...
Mr. Plummer: I'll do it in two motions if you want it.
Mr. Odio: Nov, the other motion is that I would need is, we need to renovate
Pier A with a new design as quickly as possible so that we'- when we finish
that pier, we can...
Mr. Plummer: Wait a minute now. Is Pier A the charter boats?
Mr, Odio: Pier A is the first dock as you come into the marina that was not
touched at all.
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Mr. Plummer: OK.
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Mr. Odio: If we fix that one, then we can begin to close the other ones to do
the needed repairs.
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Mr. Plummer: Does that money for that renovation come under the total
contract?
Mr. Odic: No, no. it's two hundred and sixty thousand separate from that.
Mr. Plummer: Have we gone out for bidding?
Mr. Odic: No, I don't know if we have or not. John? No, we haven't. We
will.
Mr. Plummer: What you're saying is, is to go out with RFP's.
Mr. Odic: To do the first pier.
Mr. Plummer: But you've got to go out with an RFP on it.
Mr. Odic: That's not an - yes, sure.
Mr. Plummer: Well, my area has to be of concern. If, in fact, possible
problem is the design of the present, are you going to use the same design for
the second?
Mr. Odic: No, no. We now know the problems and they will be completely
redesigned so that they will not...
Mr. Plummer: So, do you have to go out for redesign first?
Mr. Odic: I - no - Don? We're going to decide it in-house.
Mr. Don Cather (off mike): Because, we, as you recall, we rebuilt that...
Mr. Odic: Say - say that on the record.
Mr. Cather (off mike): We will do the redesign of pier A in-house.
Mayor Suarez: Walter.
Mr. Plummer: OK, so then you...
Mr. Cather: We will repair the...
Mr. Plummer: ... want a motion authorizing you at this time to expend the
two - not to exceed two hundred and sixty-seven thousand to complete that work
which has been started...
Mr. Cather: On pier A.
Mr. Plummer: ... and you want authorization...
Mr. Cather: Yes.
Mr. Plummer: ... to...
Mrs. Kennedy: OK, why don't we break this into two motions, commissioner?
Mr. Plummer: No, I thought this one was two. This was two in one on what
he's asking for.
Mr. Odic: Yes.
Mr. Plummer: And the second portion is to allow you to develop an RFP to do
Pier eight?
Mr. Dawkins: Thank you, darling.
Mr. Odio: A A.
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Hr. Plummer: A - A as in apple.
Mr. Mot To bid - bid is the Mord - to bid. To go out for bids on Pier A.
Mr. Plummer: Don't you think I Mould feel more comfortable seeing the RFP?
Mr. Odio: You don't do - what?
Mr. Cather: I think we should go out for an RFP for - to include the design,
redesign of the fire line for Pier A along with B and C.
Mr. 041o: OK, Don, if you feel that way, go ahead, let's do it.
Mr. Plummer: OK, then...
Mr. Dawkins: What pier are we discussing?
Mr. Odio: The - the...
Mr. Plummer: That's the one up near the bulkhead.
Mr. Dawkins: What - I mean - what marina?
Mr. Plummer: Miamarina.
Mr. Cather: Miami Marina - Bayside.
dr. Odio: Bayside. Bayside !farina.
Mr. Plummer: Downtown.
Mr. Dawkins: That's what I thought.
Mr. Odio: And I - I think, by the way, we should change the name of the
marina to Bayside so that we...
Mr. Plummer: Let's talk about that. We'll negotiate that out as a chip.
Mr. Odio: OK.
Mayor Suarez: OK, but wait. There was...
Mr. Plummer: I so move that the city administration be authorized to expend
an amount of money, not to exceed two hundred and sixty-seven thousand dollars
to complete the work that is not completed. B portion is that the city
administration will prepare RFP's for bidding on Pier Eight, including the
:ire lines. I so move.
Mrs. Kennedy: Second.
Mayor Suarez: So moved and seconded.
Mr. Dawkins: Under discussion.
Mr. Plusser: Yes, air.
Mr. Dawkins: Why wasn't this work done with the last - I mean, the present
contract?
Mr. Odlot We did not allocate sufficient funds to do the total work at that
time, commissioner. We were told to limit it to an amount of - remember, it
was a million, nine.
Mr. Plummer: One point nine.
Mr. Odlot One point nine and we should have, I guess, but we - I think we can
do this now and... I'm glad... you know what, retrospectively, I'm glad we did
oot do it, but we would have more - we would have spent the twice. We were
lucky that we did not do it.
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Mr. Plummer: Well$ no, no, I don't agree with that statement.
fully intend...
Mr. Odio: Oh, sure. But, i mean...
Mr. Plummer: ... to get our money back that we're putting out...
Mrs. Kennedy: Sure.
Mr. Plummer: ... as soon as we go to court if that's necessary.
Mr. Odio: Yes, but we would have had to do that - yes.
Mr. Dawkins: OK.
Because we
Mr. Plummer: But not double.
Mr. Dawkins: But - but we are going to go after the present contractor...
Mr. Plummer: We're going to go after who ever the guilty party is and that
will be my next motion.
Mr. Dawkins: OK, OK, then. All right. Thank you.
Mayor Suarez: OK now, there was a - before we vote on it, I want a
clarification. There was the implication that we didn't have to go to RFP,
that we could simply, at this point, because we're basically talking about
doing something right that wasn't done right in the first place. We could
simply award the bid. Is that...
Mr. Plummer: That - no, no, that's the A portion.
Mayor Suarez: OK, on the A portion, does that apply?
Mr. Cather: On the A portion, I believe that we should go and have plans
prepared for A, B, and C to replace the PVC fire line with galvanized extra
strength steel pipe with the proper restrainers. That's an amount of money
about $75,000 for all three piers, to have that replaced.
Mayor Suarez: But for that portion of the work, do we need to go out for
RFP's again?
Mr. Plummer: That - the A Pier.
Mr. Cather: Again, continuing that, the amount of work to bring the Pier A up
to new decking and so forth, we can do the necessary engineering for that
redecking in-house without going to- an RFP and the delay of getting another
engineer involved.
Mayor Suarez: Right.
Mr. Dawkins:
Is
it
any truth to the information that come into my office that
the decking
that
we
used over there does not meet the specs and that we vent
ahead along
with
it
and allowed the decking to be used that was not the spec?
Mr. Cather: Well, the decking, we suspect, is not all grade A lumber and
we're having to have it tested and we - it was installed and we found out
after it was installed that it had a lot of very bad wood in it and we're
trying to remedy that as best we can and also... seek damages for the fact
that it vas not number one lumber put in there.
Mr. Dawkins: But, we accepted the work and now we after - well, why accept
the work if we knew...
Mr. Plummer: We've not accepted it. That's why we're going to court.
Mr. Dawkins: That's right.
Mr. Odio: No, cosimissioner$ what happened is, we did not accept the work and
Public Works moved in there, when they began to inspect the piers, - that's
when they decided that the spec■ were not stet in many cases. And in some of
the cases, the design was faulty.
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Mr. Plummers Let me ask you another question. I have had someone bring to my
attention, that in the redoing of some of the steel, that in fact the steel
was not dug out deep enough and as such, there was an exposure problem on
about half of those items.
Mr. Cathers That's a sort of a misnomer. Some of the steel, when they cut
off the piers to remove the old decking...
Mr. Plummer: They didn't cut deep enough is what I was told.
Mr. Cather: ... they cut the steel and exposed it. We have since covered
that up with epoxy.
Mr. Plummer: No.
Mr. Cathers We have had the problem with the fact that the fasteners used to
hold the aluminum and wood deck panels in place, were put into two inches of
mortar and they cracked and sheared off in shear because they were in this two
Inches of mortar.
Mr. Plummer: OK, but what...
Mr. Cathers And those have all been replaced and epoxied in. We hope we've
got all that problem...
Mr. Plummer: What I - no, they - here, here's the problem. I am told and I
don't know. You're the engineer.
Mr. Cather: Yes.
Mr. Plummer: I am told that when they went down to the steel, that there in
code they should have gone so much further deep and then covered it over with
the concrete. And that in many of the places they did not do it. They merely
covered it over with epoxy and did not - exactly. Now, is there any truth to
that?
Mr. Cather: Well, I... they put the fasteners into the two inches of mortar
and I would have preferred that it went into the concrete and that's what part
of this thing is going to be is to brief up that - mounting so that it is in
the concrete.
Mr. Plummer: But how are you going to know when they've covered it over
already with epoxy?
Mr. Cather: Well, because it's just epoxy on the outside.
Mr. Dawkins: Not they, they say we covered it; we covered it with epoxy.
Mr. Plummer: No, we didn't do it.
Mr. Cather: The contractor did it.
Mr. Plummer: But how are you going to know which ones are done properly and
which ones are surface thin?
Mr. Cather: Well, if... what we intend to do is put a different kind...
Mr. Plummer: I got an engine - excuse me, I got, I got an engineer telling
me.
Mr. Cather: ... yes, a different kind of a fastener. Yes, I got a different
kind of a fastener so that we more securely fix it to the old pier.
Mr. Plummer: Not concerned - Don, I'm not concerned about the fastener. I'm
concerned about the steel. The undergrading steel.
Mr. Cather: Well, I don't know what the problem is there. With the
undergrading steel.
NOTE FOR THE RECORD: Commissioner Carollo entered the meeting at 2:32 p.m.
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Mr. Plummer:
Well, I'm telling you what I was told. All right?
Mr. Cather: Go ahead.
Mr. Plummer: And I've been waiting.
Mr. Pete Long: Yes. I'm Pete Long, I'm his project coordinator.
Mr. Plummer: The best in the country.
Mr. Long: There are no... Pardon?
Mr. Plummer: Best in the country.
Mr. Long: There are no places where existing...
Mr. Dawkins: Hey, Joe. How you doing, man?
Mr. Long: ... reinforcing steel on the pile caps was broken out and exposed.
There are some cases where the existing conditions - some of this was exposed
because it broke away when we removed the decks. That was repaired. Now, the
only thing I could think of that this engineer may have been talking about was
on the sides of the pile caps, our plans and specifications call for the
application of an epoxy grout or mortar troweled into the sides of those
things to seal the cracks. But there was no provision that I know of and no
need that I know of for them to have chipped this out all the way back to the
steel and replace it with epoxy. Now, that would probably make it a better
job but it would have been very expensive.
Mr. Plummer: OK.
Mr. Dawkins: Mr. Long, before the - I mean either one of you gentlemen or the
manager - before they could proceed, don't we check from one phase to the
other phase before you allow them to proceed to another phase?
Mr. Long: I think I understand what you're talking about. Generally, that's
the case. A contractor does a certain amount of work and before he proceeds
with other work, he gets an approval on this phase, the phase that he just
completed. Miamarina was a different animal.
Mr. Dawkins: Why. Why.
Mr. Long: Ve started work January the sth on that project and had to have it
finished by the opening of Bayside and they were working on all phases at all
tines at all hours of the day and night and trying to coordinate the work with
the movement of the tide, they were constricted to working at low under the
piers.
Mr. Dawkins: Veil, if that's the case, Madam City Attorney, how can we hold
whom ever? Vas the contractor at fault when we didn't demand and we let him
go ahead because we wanted him to fast track it and he fast tracked it and
messed it up. Now can we hold him legal?
Ms. Dougherty: We're not necessarily holding the contractor at fault.
- Mr. Dawkins: I mean, well whomever, other than us?
Ms. Dougherty: Veil, we asked for a plans and specifications that meet code
and right now we havent' got it. We haven't got plans and specifications or
the contractor - the contractor, as far as we know, has built according to the
plans that were given to us.
Mr. Dawkins: Run that by me again, now.
No. Doughertys As far as we know, at least the people who have been working
on it, the engineers, believe that the contractor built according to the plans
and specifications that ware submitted to them. What we question at this time
and whether or not they were adequate, the plans that is, to meet code.
Mr. Plummer: Veil, there'll be a point in which that will be determined.
no. Doughertys Correct.
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Mr. Plummer: OK. That's going to - that's my second motion. I move my first
motion.
Mayor Suarez: OK, we have a motion and a second.
Mrs. Kennedy: I second your first motion and if you're second motion is going
to make sure that that the city can sue so we don't lose the money. And I
think...
Mr. Plummer: My second motion is going to be separated as requested...
Mrs. Kennedy: OK.
Mr. Plummer: ... and it's going to state who ever the city determines is the
guilty party, they will immediately instigate court action unless they're
willing to settle out of court.
Mrs. Kennedy: OK, I move.
Mr. Plummer: Who ever that guilty party.
Mrs. Kennedy: I mean, I second your motion.
Mayor Suarez: One last clarification. The finger pier that is closest to the
south side of the project which is now open.
Ms. Dougherty: Not Pete Long?
Mr. Plummer: Right.
Mayor Suarez: Not affected by this?
Mr. Long: That's pier - that's pier C. It's open. It's being used, but it
is affected. The fire lines on that pier also need some strengthening to be
able to pass the flow test that the fire department requires. We are in
limited use on that pier. We're using every other slip. So far, that hasn't
caused a problem because it's never become half full. But, if it did, we
would then have a problem.
Mayor Suarez: So as of now, that finger pier remains open for the most part.
Mr. Long: Yes, sir.
Mayor Suarez: Nov, the other fingers... are affected by this? All of them?
Mr. Long: That's correct.
Mayor Suarez: And when are they supposed to open? Will this require us to
complete the RYP process, award the bid, complete the work, and then they
open? That wasn't my understanding.
Mr. Long: And I don't think I can answer that question right now. If we can
come up with a design change immediately that will allow us to start work
Immediately on the replacement or the reinforcement of those fire lines, and
we can complete - for instance, make those renovations immediately - those
changes on pier B, and then open it up, and move back to C and do that - do
them separately, work out some sort of plan.
Mr. Plummer: It's a matter of juggling the boats.
Mayor Suarez: I see. Yes, you know because like I had lunch at one
restaurant today, Savannah Smiles, was just at the end on the northern end of
the project and when you - well, you know how, when you look out, you're
really missing a lot when you don't see any boats out there. It's like the
project is half empty from - and they're suffering as a result. They need
more traffic, -.visual traffic, actual traffic. OK, we have a motion and a
second. Commissioner.
Mr. Dawkins: On this finger A - or pier A, or whatever it is, was that
Included in our RPT, in the specifications, or in the Mork order?
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Mr. Plummets Original.
Mr. Dawkins: The original one?
Mr. Longs It was not included in the contract, commissioner.
Mr. Davkinss So all right - so you can't hold nobody re - responsible for
that.
Mr. Odlo: No, sir.
Mr. Plummer: It's no work been done.
Mr. Odio: Has been no work done on that pier.
Mr. Dawkins: Call the question.
Mr. Long: One clarification.
Mr. Dawkins: Call the question.
Mayor Suarers Call the roll.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved
its adoptions
MOTION NO. 87-550
A MOTION AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO
ALLOCATE AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $267,000 FOR THE
COMPLETION OF WORK AT MIAMARINA RELATING TO A WATER
PRESSURE MALFUNCTION; FURTHER REQUESTING THE CITY
MANAGER TO PREPARE AN RFP FOR "PIER A," INCLUDING THE
REPLACEMENT OF THE PVC PIPES WHICH ARE USED AS FIRE
LINES.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Kennedy, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
Mr. Plummer: I now make a motion that when the determination is made by the
city, who ever is found to be the guilty party, the city attorney be
Instructed to immediately file suit and authorizing her to bring in any
outside experts that are needed and will file suit unless a settlement is
reached with the guilty party. I so move.
Mrs. Kennedy: Second.
Mayor Suarez: So moved and seconded. Any discussion? Call the roll.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved
its adoption:
MOTION NO. 87-551
A NOTION INSTRUCTING THE CITY ATTORNEY TO FILE SUIT
ONCE A DETERMINATION HAS SEEN MADE CONCERNING WHO IS
THE GUILTY PARTY IN CONNECTION WITH MIAMARINA WATER
PRESSURE MALFUNCTION, UNLESS SAID ISSUE IS SETTLED OUT
OF COURT.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Kennedy, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote-
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AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner !filler J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
37. CODESIGNATION OF STREETS IN THE LATIN QUARTER DISTRICT (SEE LABEL #26)
Mayor Suarez: Yes, do you want to take the - let's take the report from The
Latin Quarter. They need an approval on an emergency basis. Where's Willy?
Commissioner... There he is. Commissioner Carollo, we had deferred this item
pending your concerns about the naming of certain streets.
Mr. Carollo: Well, I think it was all our concerns. If I recollect
correctly.
Mayor Suarez: Yes, but were all here this morning except for you so we
deferred it to this afternoon so you could be here.
Mr. Carollo: And I appreciate that.
Mr. Plummer: Excuse me, I'm sorry.
Mrs. Kennedy: No, I'm talking about Willy Bermello.
Mr. Plummer: Oh.
Mayor Suarez: There was a presentation made by Willy. I don't know what do
you want to...
Mr. Plummer: Joe, have they brought you up to speed?
Mr. Carollo: Well, I'm reading this memo that was sent out now. I don't know
what changes they want to go with or not. But, excuse me, can you make sure
that the reporter from the Miami Herald with the real long hair doesn't
disturb the city manager so we can pursue city business. If he'd like some
information, he could follow the steps that anybody else can follow and wait
for the appropriate time. Thank you.
Mr. Dawkins: Second the motion.
Mayor Suarez: The motion on slaking sure that Luis doesn't get close to the
city manager and our proceedings or... I'm sorry, what's the motion?
Mr. Carollo: Well, the...
Mrs. Kennedy: No, no, you're not really.
Mr. Carollo: Rosario wants to stake it unanimous.
Mrs. Kennedy: What did he say?
Mayor Suarez: Well, if he cuts his hair, that would help.
Mr. Carollo: Yes, maybe he could even play basketball with you if he did.
Mayor Suarez: Really. No, he's tried that already. It wasn't very
successful.
Mr. Carollo: Which of the changes that we proposed, Willy, were acceptable to
the committee?
Mr. Plummer: Which sooting?
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Mr. Willy Bermello: For the record, my name is Willy Bermello, 55 Almeria.
Commissioner, Carollo, actually I'd like for you to know that I was chastised
by the fellow members of the committee for even the changes that were made at
the last meeting.
Mayor Suarez: Which included the 12th Avenue and 17th Avenue, right?
Mr. hilly Bermello: Which included Adele, Capitan Adele Azqui. There was a
lot of criticism regarding that and I don't want to...
Mr. Plummer: Well, maybe, maybe we need to change the committee then.
Mr. Bermello: I don't want to - well, I'm just being, I'm just reporting to
You. That's - You avoointed that board...
Mr. Plummer: We make mistakes.
Mr. Bermellos I'm sure you can - you can... so they already are quite unhappy
with the changes as - If I can go back very quickly, we started out with a
predominance of Cuban names and no women. So they were all male and over 75%
of all the names there were Cuban. Following a number of suggestions, there
was more distribution amongst the Latin American countries. Obviously, the
ones that suffer there are the 75 percent Cuban names so now there is more of
an equitable distribution. There are also now six women. Anytime you make
changes, you have to drop out; there are casualties. So there have been quite
a number of casualties which were not very favorable to the rest of the board.
But, be that as it may, following the last meeting we had a discussion
regarding the comment as to Ponce de Leon and Hernando de Soto. The
overwhelming majority felt that that would create the potentiality for a
problem related to emergency services where somebody in that particular area
would say, I'm at 454 Ponce de Leon and somebody would go to the wrong end of
town. The same thing would happen with Hernando de Soto there. Those
streets, unfortunately, happen to be already in Coral Gables. Coral Gables
kind has the monopoly on explorers because they have Balboa, they have
Columbus, and all of those. So consequently, it was the decision that if we
do that, we have two things. Number one, we create the potentiality for
somebody to come back and say, see, we told you so. All those Latin names, it
only results in somebody getting killed because of a wrong trip by the fire
emergency rescue service. So, it would be working against all of us that are
trying to do something good for the community. Second of all, it's a hard
choice because as you can see from the list of names, we have pretty important
patriots and I'll probably be criticized if I have to make a decision in terms
of who is more important, and force an Alfonsina Storni or Simon Bolivar and
then I will probably be accused and the rest of us will be accused of taking
the easy way out, so it's a difficult choice, Commissioner Carollo. We
understand the concern and why you proposed this. I think all of us here are
basically trying to say that these names represent freedom and patriotism and
that Simon Bolivar and Jose Marti can take the place along Theodore Roosevelt
and a Ronald Ragan and everybody can live happily ever after. There are many
more streets in the city of Miami that can be codesignated. I would hope that
maybe this opens the opportunity in some specific neighborhoods for that to
happen. But we are really at a loss and we also did say, Commissioner
Carollo, that whatever the commission does decide, we will accept. We said
that at the first meeting. I recall that Commissioner Plummer asked me, who
is going to make the decision on these streets and where do they go? And I
said, you will.
Mr. Carollo: Let me...
Mr. Bermello: And that still stands. Whatever you decide, we're going to
accept. And we will support your decision.
Mr. Carollo: And we have Capitan Adele Azqui - that's down, right? At
Flagler Terrace?
Mr. Bermello: Flagler Terrace, that's correct.
Mr. Carollo: Good, well, that's one out of three we have so far. As far as
the argument that there might be a potential for our fire rescue to get mixed
up in where they're heading to, i don't give much credence to that. I think
our people in fire rescue, along with Coral Gables, are smart enough to be
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able to tell the difference if it's going to be City or the Gables if they
receive the call. Plus, 1 think the numbers might not necessarily have to
match from the numbers that we have in our street than they will in theirs.
Mr. Plummer: Nine -eleven will take care of that.
Mr. Carollo: Secondly of all - yes, absolutely. Secondly of all, after the
American Indians, who were the first Americans, the second Americans that we
had in Florida were people such as Ponce de Leon, Hernando de Soto, and those
were the complaints that I heard, or at least I though I'd heard, from people
such as Pat Keller and some of the others that were complaining that well,
what do some of these people do here in Florida. And I'm trying to appease
everyone and be fair and I think that even Pat cannot deny what Ponce de Leon
did in Florida and de Soto did in Florida. So, I think that we need to
consider those two names, at the very least, if my colleagues would want it, I
would compromise and consider one of them. If not both - for instance
Argentina has two streets that are named after native Argentinians. One, I
think should definitely stay, Jose de San Martin but the other one, which is
Alfonso Storni...
Mr. Bermello: Alfonsina.
Mr. Carollo: Alfonsina Storni, correct, could possibly be an area that we
could reconsider.
Mr. Bermello: We would have no problem at all.
Mr. Plummer: Which one, Joe?
Mr. Carollo: Alfonsina Storni. But...
Mr. Plummer: Augustine?
Mr. Bermello: Alfonsina Storni.
Mayor Suarez: On Southwest Fifth Street.
Mr. Carollo: Yes.
Mayor Suarez: What do you want to do with that, Commissioner?
Mr. Carollo; I think we could use that street and named it either after
Hernando de Soto or Ponce de Leon.
Mayor Suarez: Oh, I see. I thought you were just going to propose a
switching around. I'm happy with the recommendations of the committee.
Mr. Plummer: All right, Joe, just for your proposal. If you want to change
that one, Southwest Fifth Street, which one do you want to put in there?
Mr, Carollo: Well, I'm open to suggestions from the commission.
Mr. Plummer: I'm not - I'm not going to designate. I don't care.
Mr. Carollo: Well, let's go with Hernando de Soto. He traveled a little more
around the middle of the state and northern Florida than Ponce did.
Mr. Bermello: He also discovered the Mississippi, so we might make some
friends over there.
Mr. Carollo: Yes, never know.
Mayor Suarez: I think if you spell out his name totally on a street, there
might not be any confusion with Coral Gables because, I think they only have
the incomplete names.
Mr. Sermello: That's correct. They only have the incomplete names. That's
correct.
Mr. Carollo: That's a good possibility. Now, West Flagler Street...
Mr. Plummer: I would not change that.
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Mr. Carollo: No, that would be very difficult to do. You are right in that.
Juan Pablo Duarte from the Dominican Republic, Gabriel& Mistral from Chile...
Mayor Suarez: Better get over here, your women are being suggested for
elimination.
Mr. Der cello: As - as a point of information...
Mrs. Kennedy: I'm sorry, Commissioner, I was out for a second. Can you
repeat those changes that you're proposing?
Mayor Suarezt The Commissioner suggested putting Hernando de Soto in place of
Alfonsin& Storni, Southwest Fifth Street.
Mr. Carollo: Unless you would like to change Southwest Ninth Street and take
Jose de San Martin out but, you know I think that...
Mrs. Kennedy: No, I would not like to see, quite frankly, any of these two
removed.
Mr. Carollo: Well, can you suggest one other that we can remove,
cosssissioner, to that we can name it after Hernando de Soto; or, it you like,
Ponce de Leon. Out of the whole bunch, we don't even have a native Spaniard
from what I'm seeing. If you like to take Benito Juarez or Juana de Barbudos
or Juan Pablo Duarte or Avenida Francisco Marasan.
Mrs. Kennedy: How about Francisco Marasan, Willy?
Mr. Carollo: OK.
Mr. Bermello: Vell, we have a lot of Central Americans in Miami and...
Mr. Carollo: We have Ruben Dario in the group.
Mr. Bermello: Ruben Dario yes, he's an eminent poet from Nicaragua...
Mr. Carollo: Yes...
Mr. Bermello: ... probably the most loved Nicaraguan in Nicaragua's history
and I - I think...
Mrs. Kennedy: Yes, he should be in there.
Mr. Carollo: He's a Central American. And so is Benito Juarez Central
American.
Mr. Bermello: Yes, the only, the only dif - the only difference is that
Francisco Marasan vas a general and he vas the liberator of all of the
countries in that area before those countries were a country and so I'm,
I'm...
Mr. Carollo: And Ponce de Leon discovered Florida. You know, what more can
you have?
Mr. Bermello: It's up - you know, it's one half one way and one half the
other. It's a tough choice, it depends...
Mrs. Kennedy: It is a tough choice, anyway, but let me ask you something
else, how about Jose San Martin from Argentina?
Mr. Bermello: Jose San Martin would be the only Argentinian. I think if we
have to choose between Alfonsina Storni and Jose San Martin, Jose San Martin
In really historically such more important. As an Argentinian, he also
liberated Chile and Peru.
Mr. Carollo; Yes, I was going to say that.
Mr. Bermello: So, as far as South America, he obviously has larger
ramifications historically. That doesn't mean that you can't choose somebody
that's historically less important, but then it becomes more difficult to
Justify or explain.
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Mr. Carollo: Now, I'm open for suggestions, commissioner, but I believe we
should name at least one Spaniard in the group, particularly one out of the
two. They were two of the main discoverers of Florida and were the second
Americans after the Indians.
Mrs. Kennedy: And giving the fact that you have two from Argentina...
Mr. Bermello: I could make...
Mrs. Kennedy: It's a tough choice, I know.
Mr. Bermello: I could make a suggestions that might be a little bit of a
compromise and that is, at the beginning we said we would not touch Flagler
Street. We have already touched Flagler Terrace in codesignation. Would
there be a problem with the commission in codesignating Flagler Street and
having Flagler Street along with another name?
Mr. Plummer: I would have a problem, yes.
Mr. Kennedy: Yes, I think we should leave Flagler Street.
Mr. Bermello: OK.
Mr. Dawkins: I would have a problem. That's three votes...
Mr. Carollo: Yes, I agree, I agree with that. That would really complicate
it, I think.
Mrs. Kennedy: I don't think we should touch it, no.
Mr. Plummer: That is traditional. That is the main street of your community.
Mrs. Kennedy: Yes.
Mr. Carollo: Which one do you want to drop, Rosario?
Mrs. Kennedy: It's such a tough choice.
Mr. Carollo: It is, no question about it.
Mr. Plummer: How about if we dropped Ronald Reagan?
Mr. Bermello: I don't ever recall so much silence in this commission
chambers.
Mr. Carollo: Would you like for me to have a try at it or...
Mr. Plummer: Hey, Miller. Miller, how about if we dropped Ronald Reagan?
Mr. Plummer: Joe, do you want to drop Ronnie?
Mr. Carollo: No - no, I will not drop Ronnie. I might drop a few others, but
not Ronnie.
Mr. Dawkins: No, we do have an agenda and we should get out of here. I would
think that we appointed a committee and we should listen to the committee and
if, if we can't, in the next five minutes, decide what to do, I think we
should go along with the recommendation of the committee.
Mr. Carollo: Well, we're only talking, Miller, about having one change
because...
Mr. Dawkins: Well, let's make the change.
Mr. Carollo: ... we don't have a native Spaniard in the group. We cover...
Mr. Dawkins: I know - I know, Joe, but... I agree with you, Joe, but we keep
sitting up here keeps the and...
Mr. Carollo: Well...
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Mr. Dawkins: ... instead of making a decision, we keep throwing it back to
Willy, saying Willy, you make a decision, and Willy keep throwing it back say,
you guys slake a decision, right?
Mr. Carollo: Rosario, would you go along with Alfonsina Storni since we have
two from Argentina?
Mrs. Kennedy: Yes, I was going to say that my inclination is to go ahead with
the committee and leave it as it is. If you really need to change somebody, I
would go with Jose de San Martin even though all these people are extremely
important, but just from the mere fact that you have two from Argentina, that
would be my choice if we really have to...
Mr. Plummer: Which - which one?
Mrs. Kennedy: The first one, Ninth Street, Jose de San Martin.
Mr. Carollo: Jose de San Martin.
Mr. Plummer: OK, and you want to make that Hernando de Soto?
Mrs. Kennedy: Hernando de Soto.
Mr. Carollo: Yes.
Mr. Plummer: Huh?
Mr. Carollo: Sure.
Mr. Plummer: Fine.
Mayor Suarez: You're not going to have my vote on that.
Mr. Plummer: You do not?
Mayor Suarez: No, no, no, pno.
Mrs. Kennedy: No.
Mayor Suarez: Jose San Martin is a hero to many...
Mr. Carollo: Well, I think he's...
Mayor Suarez: ... people in this community. The recommendations of the
committee are fine by me to make that change would just make it worse. We've
been at this for three commission meetings. I think we ought to go with the
recommendations of the commission and be done with it.
Mr. Carollo: That - that's fine but all that I'm saying is that one, we have
all the Spanish speaking countries represented just about except Spain, and
that should be represented in particularly when it was the Spaniards who first
settled Florida.
Mr. Plummer: What is the consensus?
Mr. Carollo: Well, Commissioner Kennedy said that she wants S.W. 9th Street
changed to Hernando de Soto, so if she will make it in the form of a motion,
or if you like, I will make a motion and you know, approve that change if she
will second it.
Mr. Pluss'er: So what is being proposed?
Mr. Dawkins: Tampa red.
Mrs. Kennedy: He is proposing to change S.V. 9th Street, Calls Jose San
Martin to Call* Hernando de Soto and is that in the form of a motion?
Mr. Carollo: Teo.
Mrs. Kennedy: Second.
Mayor Suarers Moved and seconded. Any discussion?
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Mr. Plummers I don't know. Wait, you had better see what the vote is.
Mayor Suarez: Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Carollo, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 87-552
A RESOLUTION CO -DESIGNATING CERTAIN STREETS OF THE
CITY IN THE LATIN QUARTER DISTRICT AREA BOUNDED BY
NORTHWEST 1ST STREET ON THE NORTH, SOUTHWEST 9TH
STREET ON THE SOUTH, 12TH AVENUE ON THE EAST, AND 17TH
AVENUE ON THE WEST; FURTHER, DIRECTING THE CITY CLERK
TO TRANSMIT A COPY OF THIS RESOLUTION TO CERTAIN NAMED
GOVERNMENT OFFICES.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Kennedy, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote-
AYESs Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
DISCUSSION ON ROLL CALL:
Mr. Dawkins: Why, I come last, I have nothing to do with this.
Mr. Plummer: The cat bird's seat just got caught.
Mrs. Kennedy: You would like to deal with Matty Hirai.
Mr. Dawkins: I vote yes, and be sure that where the codesignation of Ronald
Reagan stops, you have got a sign just as big that continues to say N.W. 17th
Avenue.
Mr. Plummer: 12th Avenue.
Mr. Dawkins: 12th Avenue.
Mayor Suarez: I'm going to vote yes. I think it is going to be very
interesting for this community know exactly who it was that excluded Jose San
Martin. We want to get along with the naming of the streets.
Mr. Dawkins: And get on with the agenda.
Mayor Suarez: Be done with it.
Mr. Bermello: Thank you very such.
Mr. Carollo: Well, Xavier, I'm glad that you are going to make sure that you
let the community know that. You've made my day. Thank you.
Mayor Suarez: Thank you, Willy. Thank you for the effort of the committee.
Mr. Carollo: Thank you, Willy. Please thank the whole committee for us.
Mr. Plummer: Willy, do you have another one of these copies, clean, for the
City Attorney, please? I doctored mine up.
Mayor Suarez: flake sure you thank the committee for the efforts sad the work
that they put into this. I know that it was many, many hours of labor.
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Mr. Plummer: Yes, and where is the committee getting the money for the Vice-
president coming to town?
Mr. Bermello: I understand that the City Manager has pulled a lot of strings
and everything is being taken care of.
Mr. Plummer: Are we selling medallions?
Mr. Bermello: We are getting one...
Mr. Odio: Do me a favor, could you give the Commissioner a brief thing of
what is going to happen, and where they should be for the ceremony.
Mr. Carollo: Wasn't the Mayor having a fund raiser for that when he was
racing with the first graders? He won that race, and then he fell down with
the third graders and lost that one. Wasn't that the fund raiser we are
having for that?
Mr. Odio: I only row.
Mr. Plummer: Not for long.
Mr. Carollo: I don't know, it seems to me I read something in the Herald
about that.
Mr. Odio: The hell I won't.
Mr. Bermello: There will be a ceremony starting at approximately 3:00 p.m.
Mr. Plummer: In the afternoon, the heat of the day?
Mr. Bermello:... Wednesday, June 17th. There will be a showmobile from Dade
County, with a podium.
Mr. Plummer: Dade County?
Mr. Dawkins: Dade County? No, it will not either. It will be from the City
of Miami.
Mr. Bermello: Well, they are participating. They have a larger showmobile.
Mr. Dawkins: OK, well, you just lost my vote. I mean, I am not going to sit
up here and let you go to the County...
Mr. Odio: Wait, wait, Commissioner.
Mr. Dawkins: ... and let the County take... I mean, every time you look, the
County comes out smelling like a rose, and the City of Miami is a stepchild!
No, no, you can't tell me nothing)
Mr. Plummer: They are going to get nationwide publicity showing Metropolitan
Dade County, and I am going to foot the bill?
Mr. Dawkins: Yes, that In your problem and the City of Miami. No, way, no
wayt
Mr. Odic: Excuse me, it has just been changed.
Mr. Dawkins: OK, what is the change?
Mr. Plummer: I like instant decisions.
Mr. Odio: That we use ours.
Mr. Carollo: Miller, I want this community to know who voted which way on
that.
Mr. Dawkins: Dade County? You've got to be out of your mind!
Mr. Odioi There will be a ceremonial...
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Mr. Dawkins: Oh, so Steve Clark canOt sit on the City of Miami showmobile.
Me has to sit on Dade County's snowmobile.
Mr. Odio: There will be a City of !Miami showmobile, Commissioner.
Mr. Bermello: There will be a showmobile where there will be all of you will
be on it with the Vice -President. The Commission of the County is also being
Invited to be on that showmobile on the stage. The Vice -President will make
an address, it will last approximately 10 minutes or so. The School Board is
also participating, they will have a chorus from Riverside Elementary that
will sing. There is a gal from Kinlock Park Junior High School that sings
America The Beautiful beautifully, and...
Mr. Plummer: Wait a minute now. In all honesty, how much of the tab is
Metropolitan Dade County picking up?
Mr. Bermello: I have not seen the budget, or what is being spent. I don't
know.
Mr. Plummer: No, hey, I want, you know, I want to know what the tab...
Mr. Bermello: Well, I...
Mr. Plummer: I expect them, if they are going to share, and they should...
Mr. Bermello: Well, I...
Mr. Plummer: ... in that ceremony, they should share in the expenses.
Mr. Bermello: Up to this point, they were going to put 500 of the seats,
there are 750 seats, they are putting over half, 500 seats.
Mr. Plummer: How much is in security? That is my problem. Security is going
to run at least $50,000 for the Vice -President's visit.
Mr. Carollo: You know what is going to happen? I'll tell you what is going
to happen. Everybody in town is going to be in the front row, except us from
the City of Miami Commission. We will be in the back row somewhere, and then
you are going to have this master, Jorge Mas, be up front, you know, giving
one of his speeches, and by the time we get up there, they won't even know the
City of Miami was the one that has something to do with this.
Mr. Bemello: May I correct you there, Mr. Carollo, that is not totally
correct. The welcoming remarks will be given by Mayor Suarez, and the only...
Mr. Plummer: Well, wait a minute, maybe we have got a problem with that!
Mr. Carollo: Yes, that relieved all of us.
Mrs. Kennedy: Willy, if I were you, I would talk to Mr. Rouse.
Mr. Dawkins: Yes, but I agree with J.L. Plummer. You know, why are we going
to take City of Miami tax dollars and support... and you give half the credit
to Dade County?
Mr. bermello: Nobody is giving the credit half to Dade County. Dade County,
when they were asked for support, they came forward...
Mr. Plummer: With 500 chairs?
Mr. Bermello: Well, whatever we asked them, they have said yes.
Mr. Plummer: I'll give you that from the funeral home.
Mr. Berssello: Whatever we asked them, they said yes. The same thing with the
School Board.
Mr. Odio: It is not a funerall
Mr. Bermallo: Ws asked thew for the Miami Sigh Senior High School band, we
asked them for the chorus of Riverside. We asked them to clean up and provide
police. They are providing 10 police, ae many as we asked them to.
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Mr. Dawkinss Ten police?
Mr. Bermello: This is the School Board. This is the School Board. If we
want more, they will provide more, the School Board.
Mr. Dawkins How can Dade County School security or police patrol, function
on our streets?
Mr. Plummer: They can't.
Mr. Dawkins: You can't do it, Willy.
Mr. Bermello: The same way as the Secret Service. They will be given...
Mr. Dawkins: No, Willy, let me correct you. No, no.
Mr. Bermello: Commissioner...
Mr. Dawkins: Don't say that again, no.
Mr. Bermello: Commissioner Dawkins, the police in the City requested
assistance for ushering people to their seats, to check I.D.'s for people
going in. Everybody that goes into the secure area will be frisked with metal
detectors and the Dade County police...
Mr. Plummer: Is this going to be out in the open? Where is the actual
presentation?
Mr. Bermello: It will be on a shovmobile that will be at the intersection of
S.W. 2nd Street and 12th Avenue. The actual location will be decided tomorrow
morning by secret police.
Mr. Dawkins: Well, put in the back, because I don't want the sharp shooter to
miss the President and get me. Put in the back. Put me in the back, on the
back row.
Mr. Plummer: How much is security?
Mr. Odic: The County is going to do something at the airport. They are going
to have police at the airport and they have not told us what that will cost
yet.
Mr. Plummer: How much is City security?
Mr. Odic: On duty police officers?
Mr. Plummer: Total security cost!
Mr. Odios $17,000.
Mr. Plummers That's not bad.
Mr. Odic: $17,000.
Mr. Dawkins: $17,000?
Mr. Odic: Yes, sir. On duty police officers.
Mr. Carollo: Mr. Manager, since when have you started smoking that tobacco so
such?
Mr. Odic: I gave up rowing.
Mr. Dawkins Ever since he quit buying those suits from where Sergio bought
his.
Mr. Odio: No, wait a minute, I use guayaberas.
Mr. Carollo: Be* what they did to him? You know, messed his rowing up, now
he is taking up smoking cigars.
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Mr. Odio: I have no conflict of interest with the cigars. That's like
Groucho Mara'...
Mr. Plumer: You had better shut up while you are ahead.
Mayor Suarez: OK, what other action do you need, Mr. City Manager?
Mr. Odios Mo...
Mr. Bermello: The County has fabricated the signs already. They will be
posted. I haven't seen them yet, but they are done. I could tell you that they
are cooperating like, you know, they have been in this from the beginning.
Mr. Carollo: Mr. Manager, I'd like for you to send someone in your office to
make sure that we are going to be on top of everything that is being done...
Mr. Odio: Well..
Mr. Carollo: ... and I would also like to assign someone from my office to be
a part of that City committee, to make sure of everything that is going on. I
don't want any last minute surprises.
Mr. Dawkins: Mr. Manager, can get advice, I mean, an opinion from your Chief
of Police as to what that will cost? Did you ask him?
Mr. Odio: No, that cost came from him.
Mr. Carollo: $17,000, you said.
Mr. Dawkins: That's $17,000?
Mr. Odio: $17,000 on duty police officers. We had a committee...
Mr. Dawkins: OK, you got that. How many police are we talking about? How
many are you talking about?
Mr. Odio: Let me see. I don't have the budget here. Do you have that
budget?
Mr. Dawkins: How many police?
Mr. Odio: Will get it, but we have...
Mr. Dawkins: Nov if you are going to use "X", now, I'll just say ten, ten on
duty police, they have got to come from somewhere also. Somewhere else is
going to be short.
Mr. Odio: Let me tell you what the County provided. They are providing five
street signs for the Reagan thing, obtaining the use of the County's
showmobile, which we are changing now. They are going to run a shuttle
service, approximately ten buses from the Orange Bowl to S.W. 12th Avenue and
lot Street during the hours of 12:00 noon to 5:00 p.m. so that people will
park there and use the buses free of charge. And they are going to notify the
officials of Miami International... of the Vice -President's arrival and have a
reception at the airport, and we provide the on -duty police officers on site,
and that is the cost of $17#000. It has been my staff that has lead the
committee together with them.
Mr. Dawkins: That's the Chief?
Mr. Plummer: Are we being misled when you tell us $17,000 on duty, are we
using a number of off duty also?
Mr. Odio: I'm told that it is on duty police officers that are going to be
there, yes.
Mr. Plummer: Only. In other words, the total cost of this City of security
Is $17,000.
Mr. Odio: Yes, sir, that's as per the Police Department.
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Mr. Dawkins: And that is an duty police* which is regular, which will be a
regular salary anyway.
Mr. Odio: Yes, sir.
Mr. Plummer: Now, where is the money coming from?
Mr. Odio: Well, it is regular police budget.
Mr. Plummer: They have contingencies.
Mr. Odio: Yes, air.
Mr. Plummer: That's nice to know.
Mr. Odio: No. You are moving people around.
Mr. Bermello: Thank you very much.
Mayor Suarez: Thank you, Willy, and once again, thanks for your committee,
for all their efforts.
38. AUTHORIZE PURCHASE OF EQUIPMENT FOR SOLID WASTE TO BE USED AT CITY
FACILITIES.
Mayor Suarez: Any other items that were postponed from the morning?
Mr. Dawkins: Yes, the one on the purchase of the equipment. I'd like to do
that.
Mayor Suarez: yes.
Mr. Dawkins: Do you want to explain it, Mr. Manager?
Mr. Plummer: Is that in reference to buying of the equipment?
Mr. Odio: Sure, that is what I mean.
Mr. Plummer: Is that in reference to that?
Mr. Dawkins: Yes, yes, Mr. Mayor.
Mr. Plummer: I am willing to go along. I have now the backup material, based
on one stipulation, that this equipment that we are purchasing in this order,
will be used only on a trial basis at City facilities owned and or leased by
the City. With that, I can accept it to try it.
Mr. Carollo: I'll go along with that now.
Mr. Dawkins: OK.
Mr. Carollo: Is there a motion, Miller, or...
Mr. Dawkins: Yes, you move it.
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Mayor Suarez: So moved.
Mr. Carollo: Move.
Mr. Dawkins: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Seconded, thirded, any discussion on that? Call the roll.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Carollo, who moved
Its adoption:
NOTION NO. 87-553
A !LOTION AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO
INSTRUCT THE DEPARTMENT OF GENERAL SERVICES ADMINISTRATION
TO PURCHASE NEEDED COMMERCIAL EQUIPMENT FOR THE DEPARTMENT
01' SOLID WASTE; AS LISTED IN THE MEMORANDUM DATED JUNE 11,
1987 FROM CESAR ODIO TO THE HONORABLE MEMBERS OF THE CITY
COMMISSION; FURTHER STIPULATING THAT SAID EQUIPMENT BE
USED ON A TRIAL BASIS AT CITY FACILITIES WHICH ARE OWNED
AND/OR LEASED BY THE CITY.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Dawkins, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
ON ROLL CALL:
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Manager, I am assuming that these prices herein quoted will
be bid.
Mr. Odio: You mean the equipment?
Mr. Plummer: Yes.
Mr. Odlo: Yes, I have to go on an emergency procedure.
Mr. Plummer: OK, but it will be a bidding procedure?
Mr. Odio: Yes, we have located equipment.
Mr. Plummer: I vote yes.
Mr. Dawkins: OK, thank you.
39. ACCEPT COMPLETED WORK OF LANZO CONSTRUCTION FOR CITYWIDE SEWER
EZTI SIONS.
Mayor Suarez: Item 45.
Mr. Plummer: I move... it In a public hearing.
Mr. Carollo: Item?
Mr. Plummers 45.
Mr. Carollo: 45.
Mr. Dawkins: Ve held 29 because of Joe, didn't we?
Mr. Plummers No, she asked that it be delayed a few more minutes.
Mayor Suarez: Now she wanted to wait another few minutes, Commissioner.
Mr. Carollo: Yes. I will go along with item 45.
Mr. Plummier: Is there anybody in the public want to speak?
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Mayor Suarez: Is there anyone that wishes to be heard on item 45 for or
against? Let the record...
Mr. Plummer: Let the record reflect no one come forth, 1 move it.
Mayor Suarez: So moved. Do we have a second?
Mr. Plummers No second?
Mayor Suarers You second 45?
Mr. Dawkins: Yes.
Mayor Suarers 45 has been seconded. Any discussion? Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who
moved its adoptions
RESOLUTION NO. 87-554
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE COMPLETED WORK OF LANZO
CONSTRUCTION CO. AT A TOTAL COST OF $234,006.07 FOR
CITYWIDE SANITARY SEWER EXTENSIONS IMPROVEMENT - N.W. 47
AVENUE C.I.P. PROJECT NO. 351178 AND AUTHORIZING A FINAL
PAYMENT OF $36,002.66.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here
and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Dawkins, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote-
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
40. RECONSIDERATION OF RESOLUTION ADOPTED PAST APRIL WHICH HAD EXPANDED THE
EDISONAITTLE RIVER NEIGHBORHOOD TARGET AREA EAST BOUNDARIES.
Mr. Plummer: Anyone wishing to speak on 46? Let the record reflect... do you
want to speak on it?
Mayor Suarers Agenda item 46. Annette.
Mr. Dawkins: What now?
Mr. Carollo: Move.v
Mayor Suarez: Item 46, inclusion of...
Mr. Dawkins: You call the roll on 457
Mr. Plummers Wait a minute, somebody wants to speak.
Mayor Suarers Yes, 45 was passed.
Mr. Carollo: Are you against it, Madam?
Ms. 11senbergs Definitely.
Mr. Carollo: You are against it?
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Ms. Eisenberg: Of reconsidering your resolution, yes, we want to know why it
doesn't...
Mr. Dawkins: That is OK. Where is the lady who asked me to put it on? Lori?
All right.
Ms. Eisenberg: Ve, of course, cannot understand your reasoning, so I'd like
to speak after the person.
Mr. Dawkins: That is why she is here to explain to your her reasoning, OK?
Me. Bisenberg: Fine.
Mayor Suarez: Lori, give us your name and address and...
Ms. Lori Weldon: OK, my name In Lori Weldon, I reside at 160 N.W. 44 Street,
I am chairperson of the Edison -Little Haiti Community Association. My reasons
for opposing the boundary extensions of the Edison -Little River target area is
because that area as it stands, does not receive the funding due it with the
boundaries it now has. In the 12th year C.D. allocations, where Allapattah
received $370,222; in llth year, they received $340,200; Coconut Grove,
$170,418; in llth year, $128,478; Downtown, $112,312, in llth year, $256,120;
In Little Havana, $535,421, in llth year, $458,480; Model City, $223,017, in
llth year, $184,460; Overtown, $627,719, in llth year, $537,200; Wynwood,
$375,650. and in llth year, $613,330. Now, Edison, in the 12th year C.D.
funding received $100,000 and in llth year received $87,750. Now, this is way
below what any other target areas receiving. Now, you want to extend the
boundaries and give this area less of a chance to received funding in a
community that is badly needed. Nov, I agree that Biscayne Boulevard may need
funding, but I don't think the residents of Edison should suffer. If you need
to give Biscayne Boulevard economic funding, give them a target area. Make
them their own target area. I understand there will be competition with
another target area for C.D. funds, but the competition will not be in the
area itself. It will be for the total block grant money, which will be
Imposed upon all of the target areas. Why put this extra burden on one
particular target area?... one that can't afford it.
Mayor Suarez: Frank, was any consideration given to a carving out that would
not put the burden on just the one area?
Mr. Castaneda: Commissioners, let me explain why that doesn't make any sense.
Let me explain. What you would be doing is creating a mini -target area.
According to a rules of citizen participation, they would have the right to
elect somebody for that area and so forth. If the Commission were to do that,
the precedent setting nature of that would be to create mini -target areas
throughout the City and divide the target areas and so forth. The other
problem that happens is that there is nothing different between the area east
and west of the railroad. You know, population wise, it is the same
Individuals. There In no reason why the railroad tracks should separate one
target area to another. As a matter of fact, the reason that we are
recommending the expansion of the area is that the poor people in this area
have moved to Biscayne Boulevard.
Ms. Weldon: They are not on Biscayne Boulevard!
Mr. Castaneda: To Biscayne Boulevard.
Ms. Weldon: The reason you want to expand the target area to include Biscayne
Boulevard is to justify funding for Biscayne Boulevard, period, and I know
that City funding will be mysteriously start being pumped into that area to
build up Biscayne Boulevard, and not the Edison area.
Mr. Castaneda: Commissioners...
Me. Weldon: Because if you were going to build up the Edison area, you would
have done it by now.
Mr. Castaneda: Commissioners... I agree with your point.
Mr. Plussmer: You are right.
Mayor Suarez: Not yet, she is not.
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Me. Weldon: Don't put that on me.
Mr. Castaneda: Mayor and Commissioners, the real issue is whether Community
Development funds should be utilized to help this area or not. The point that
she made, Lori made, is that by keeping the target area smaller and make them
smaller, obviously, the funds are more concentrated, and if you were to reduce
the Edison target area in half and take all this out, obviously the
concentration of money Mould be greater, and you know, so the issue is,
whether... the real issue is whether you want to do improvements to Biscayne
Boulevard, or not, from Community Development funds. That is really the real
issue. If you do, then you should maintain the target area, as was approved
at the last public hearing. If you don't, you should take it back to the
F.E.C. railroad.
Mr. Dawkins: OK, let me ask a question. The target area now is Edison -Little
River, is that correct?
Mr. Eisenberg: Right.
Mr. Dawkins: OK, how... now, when she speaks of the amount of money that went
in, did it go to the Edison -Little River target area?
Mrs. Eisenberg: Right.
Mr. Dawkins: OK, what was done to the money? How much of it was spent in the
Edison area, how much was spent in the Little River area and how much was
spent in the Biscayne Boulevard area?
Ms. Eisenberg Now, let me see...
Mr. Dawkins: No, no, I am talking to him.
Mr. Castanets: No, no money has been...
Mr. Dawkins: No, let her say what she has got to say. Let her say what she
has got to say. Let her talk, let her say what she has got to say. No, you
asked for the mike. Give her the mike.
Mr. Plummer: No, I'd rather hear you arguing.
He. Eisenberg: No, no, I don't want to argue, Commissioner, I think that I am
probably one of the few people in this room that was involved in that area
since the first year that money came into the area. It went into street
Improvement. I am there since the N.D.P. program. It went into street
programs, it went into economic development, it went into sanitary sewers and
It went into several things. It went into the economic bases that are there,
but let me just say one thing while you think of it. Lori enumerated all the
money going into the other areas. I have to tell you that since 1975 the only
money that the City of Miami put on Biscayne Boulevard, was $75,000 to plant
the queen palm trees, not one other cent.
Mr. Plummer: Not true.
Ms. Eisenberg: That's from their statistics.
Mr. Plummer: That is not true.
No. Eisenberg: OK, then, you tell me then. Tell me I am wrong.
Mr. Plummer: Well, I'll tell you. We did $75,000 study to upgrade the area,
OK, that I can remember right off the bat. We have done a tremendous amount
of street improvements, I know 61st Street - landscaping, gutters, all of that
has been done, so don't make a statement the only thing we did was plant
palms.
Ms. Eisenberg: Well, then that I got from your departments, I'm sorry.
Mr. Plummer: We spent a lot of money in American Legion Park, I mean, I will
go right down with you... Morningsids Park...
No. Useuberg: Wall, that's the Parke For People program.
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Mr. Plummers No, no. You said monies spent by this City.
Ms. Eisenberg: I am talking about the Biscayne Boulevard corridor, J.L., not
the parks and not all the other things.
Mr. Plummer: I am talking about... don't stand there, Annette, and tell me we
only spent $15,000 on Biscayne Boulevard, nowt Tell me you don't feel we have
spent enough, and I may be able to agree with you, but I can't let you go away
making a statement that is not true.
INAUDIBLE BACKGROUND COMMENTS NOT ENTERED INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD.
Mr. Plummer: Where are we?
Mrs. Kennedy: Frank, what you want from us, is to reconsider the expansion?
Mr. Plummer: No, she has asked for the reconsideration.
Mrs. Kennedy: OK.
Mr. Plummer: They are recommending, I assume, is what they did in the first
place.
Mr. Dawkins: OK, Frank, how much money has been given to the Edison -Little
River area out of the C.D. funds?
Mr. Castaneda: Let me explain that and the figures that were mentioned by
Lori are misleading because of one reason.
Ms. Weldon: They are from your reports.
Mr. Castaneda: No, I know, but they are misleading...
Mr. Dawkins: Frank, Frank, no, no, let me tell you. I don't want to know
what Ms. Eisenberg said, I don't want to know what she said. I am asking you a
direct question, and I wish you would answer my question. How much money was
spent out of C.D. funds in the Edison -Little River area?
Mr. Plummer: You mean last year?
Mr. Castaneda: Right, let me just answer that something first.
reason that...
Mr. Dawkins: How much money...
Mr. Plummer: Wait a minute, answer the man's question!
Mr. Dawkins: How much... that is all I want!
Mr. Plummer: Then explain what you want. Damn!
Mr. Castaneda: $5,000,000.
Mr. Dawkins: $5,000,000, OK.
Mr. Plummer: See, wasn't that easy?
Mr. Castaneda: Plus.
Mr. Plummer: Did it hurt?
Mr. Castaneda: No, plus.
Mr. Plummer: Thank God!
Mr. Castanedas Plus...
Mr. Dawkinss Plus what now?
You see, the
Mr. Castaneda: Plus, that does not include the single family rehab program.
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Mr. Dawkins: I as not interested... OK, give me the total amount of... OR, I
will tell you what, let's do this.
Ms. Weldon: You talking llth to 12th year?
Mr. Dawkins: OK, do this, Frank. Give me this figure, OK?
Mr. Plummer: I am going to go out because when I come back, they are still
going to be doing the same thing.
Mr. Dawkins: I don't blame you. No, they are not.
Mr. Castaneda: Plus $2,700,000 for 557 units rehab in the Edison area.
Mr. Dawkins: How much C.D. funds in total, complete, all the money and all
the amount of money that was spent in Edison -Little River? That's what I want
to know.
Mr. Castaneda: $7,000,000.
Mr. Dawkins: OK, now, how much was spent... I mean, $7,000,000 is higher or
lower, than all the other areas?
Mr. Castaneda: It is in the mid range.
Mr. Dawkins: In the mid range? Who was higher?
Mr. Castaneda: Little Havana is the highest, followed by Model City.
Mr. Dawkins: Model City, OK. Now, is it anything that says that this time
with the C.D. funds, Edison Little River, I am not thinking about, I have
nothing to do with the boundaries, OK, that is shelved, but is there anything
that says that of the 12th year C.D. funds, Edison -Little River, Wynwood and
Coconut Grove, can get some money to catch up to where everybody else is?
Mr. Castaneda: No, there isn't anything that says that, but what I am telling
you is that Edison Little -River, it doesn't need catching up.
Mr. Dawkins: Why they don't?
Mr. Castaneda: Well, because...
Mr. Dawkins: If you only gave them $5,000,000, you gave somebody else
$8,000,000, they must need to catch up.
Mr. Castaneda: Well, but all the target areas are not the same size. Model
City...
Mr. Dawkins: All right, since you want to go that way, I will give you one,
OK? What is the money you spent in Wynwood? What is the total amount of C.D.
fund...
Mr. Castaneda: $5,000,000.
Mr. Dawkins: $5,000,000, in last year?
Mr. Castaneda; Florida housing.
Mr. Dawkins: Last year?
Mayor Suarez: No, that is over the...
Mr. Dawkins: In eleventh year C.D. funds.
Mr. Castaneda: $371,000.
Mr. Dawkins: And $8,000,000 in Little Havana and $5,000,000 in Edison -Little
River. Now, bow can we help Wynwood to catch up?
Mr. Castaneda: Lot me explain what is throwing off the figures somewhat,
%,� Issionsr, and that is...
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fLjNIDBNTItIBD SPIAKBR: We don't want to hear that.
Mr. Castansda: No, no, let me explain, because you see, housing money is
allocated city -ride and it is a first come, first serve, type of pot. You
know, if you wanted your single family home rehab, you go there, and there is
a big pot, and the money...
Mr. Dawkins: Mr. Castaneda, you manage all C.D. funds. I am speaking of the
allocation of all C.D. funds. I do not want you to sit here and do like I do
with the bible, take that part I want and leave the rest, OK? What I pant you
to do is tell me of all the... don't pick the housing and don't pick the
homeless and don't pick this. Talk in terms of the total C.D. dollars and
then, you can go sit down and worry about hop they are disbursed, OK? That is
all I need. So, don't pick out no particular program to answer my question.
Just tell me dollars, that is all, sir.
Mr. Castaneda: OK. Dollars for what?
dr. Dawkins: Total... I'll tell you what. You all go ahead.
Mayor Suarez: Wait, let's hear from Rose. Rose, Mr. Vice -Mayor.
Mrs. Rose Gordon: Commissioners, my name is Rose Gordon, I am a realtor,
appraiser and a consultant. I am here because I saw the agenda a day or two
ago, and I was here to find out just what was about to be transacted and why
It was being reconsidered. I am here to... I'd like to have Commissioner
Dawkins... I will wait until he is finished.
Mayor Suarez: You have to be careful when you talk about a reversal by this
Commission, because we could...
Mrs. Gordon: I am not asking for a reversal.
Mayor Suarez: No, no, I mean when you say that this is a reconsideration of
prior action, because I can ask you, during the many years that you were on
this Commission, what was the thinking behind not including the portion that
we now including in this target area, if any.
Mrs. Gordon: I really can't answer that question, but I want to ask you...
Mayor Suarez: I just make life a little difficult for you, Rose. As long
as...
Mrs. Gordon:... to consider... Commissioner Dawkins, I am asking that you and
the other Commissioners consult with your professional staff with regard to
possibly extending the boundaries to the east of Biscayne Boulevard into that
depressed residential area, which at the present time is deteriorating
tremendously. I also would like you to consider not reversing yourselves from
your previous decision to include Biscayne Boulevard, because Biscayne
Boulevard is the gateway to the City of Miami. It has been the gateway ever
since I moved here in 1940. It was a boulevard to be proud of at that time. I
can't exactly tell you that it is a boulevard to be proud of at this time, but
I would like to see now real concerted effort, whatever help can be made
available to improve not only certain little target areas which need to be
helped, but to expand the target areas so that the entire City of Miami can
benefit from the funds that are coming in for the development and
redevelopment of areas of this community. First of all, it will raise the tax
base and it will help to bring in more taxes to improve properties. When
properties are deteriorating as we all know, the tax base is also suffering
from it, so I an speaking to you today to ask you two things: one, not to
reverse yourselves on item number 46, and to direct your staff to study the
area north of 79th Street and east of Biscayne Boulevard, as an extension, or
If it is at all possible, call it a new target area, but by all means,
consider it as an area that needs redevelopment. Thank you.
Mayor Suarez: Before you answer, let me may one thing, Lori. We are not here
today making a trade-off between the one area and the other, if you really
thing about it. The tact that we include an additional neighborhood, or
additional area, additional district, which, by the way, is extremely related
to anything that happens to the vest of Biscayne Boulevard, is not going to
detract in any way from the funding that we give to this target area, now
owposed by a larger area. Actually, if this Commission maintains its
priorities the May we have been setting them, I think in the last year and one
half, you are liable to see a much higher expenditure for the combined
district, and you have to admit that Biscayne Boulevard is, and how it goes,
is related a great deal to what happens to the west of it. We have, and when
they mentioned Wynwood, I saw Emilio over there laughing... I think we have
begun to restructure priorities to benefit those areas that need the most
developing and we are mindful of certain areas like Wynwood, like Edison, and
in this case, including Biscayne Boulevard, if the Commission chooses to
maintain that boundary, that really needs more monies, and you are going to
see, continue to see, hopefully, a lot of that as we proceed. We are not
making the trade-offs today, remember. I know that by making a broader area,
you could infer that somehow the funding would be reduced for a particular
neighborhood, but I don't think that necessarily will be the case at all.
Mr. Dawkins: All I've got to say is... Annette Eisenberg, this is nothing new
to you, and I am not telling you, I am reminding you. Lori, this is new to
you, I am going to say this to you. Emilio Lopez, this is nothing new, you
and I have been doing this since 1970, OK, so it is no problem. All you have
got to do is come down here and make sure that when they allocate C.D. funds,
that we develop a part of Wynwood, that we develop a part of Biscayne
Boulevard, that we develop a part... what is that main street there in Edison -
Little River, N.B. 2nd?... that we develop a part of N.B. 2nd and that we go
over to 62nd and 7th Avenue and that we develop a part of that. If you do not
do that, we are going end up with the same thing we have got, we are going to
develop one area and that's going to be a Christmas tree and everything else
is going to be a ghetto.
Mr. Emilio Lopez: Commissioner, it is true what you are saying. I'm Emilio
Lopez and it is true what you say.
Mayor Suarez: Give us an address, Emilio, give us an address.
Mr. Dawkins: County Jail.
Mr. Lopez: County jail, 57th Avenue.
Mayor Suarez: Another address.
Mr. Lopez: You had better be careful, man, don't get me in trouble!... 5700
N.S. 4th Court. OK, let me tell you one of...
Mr. Plummer: To do with you is get you out of trouble! You have never been
out of trouble!
Mr. Lopez: Well, you know, that is the way it is. That is the way it is.
You know, you are lucky that I have been quiet for the last couple of years,
you know that, OK. But, let me tell you, you know, it is true what you say,
that you know, we have people involved in the community have to be aware, but
your staff, and they do a fantastic job, but sometimes the politics gets
Involved in those communities, because I have heard that we are not completely
united and they use that as escape of doing their job and doing what is
necessary and it is up to you when we come over here and present to you the
real needs of the community, for you to go and visit them also, and know that
those needs are in there, but going back to what you say, Commissioner, when
they recommend... and I praise the job you are doing, Commissioner Dawkins,
because you bring it up to the head... always there are areas that are
privileged and it is up to you to see that the other areas that are not that
privileged, be able to get some of the money so they can develop - at least
develop, what about to compare with some of the other areas, because this is
the way the system works, but you are aware that those areas need also
development. Now, we are far behind and I agree with what you are saying,
those monies have to be divided a little bit better. I agree with the lady
over here and... (INAUDIBLE)
Ms. Weldon: Let me may that I am not opposed to Biscayne Boulevard receiving
any funding, but this bit about allocations... I submitted a program for
Edison -Little River and it was denied, because they said there would be no
funding of new programs. That was on this year with the boundaries I have
now, and you are telling me that perhaps...
Mayor Suarez: That is why Emilio is an old fox, you see. When he bad the
same problem, he went and found another fund, in this case, the Off -Street
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Parking Authority, and came up with a concept by which we are going to fund
his parking lot over there, but...
No. Weldon: OK, but let me say...
Mayor Suarez: ... and that is still a fund which we still have some monies,
Lori.
Ms. Weldon: When it comes to social services, I can't see where Mr. Castaneda
has said there has been $5,000,000 spent. We are not... you are not talking
llth year, or 12th year C.A. funding.
Mr. Castaneda: I'm talking in totality.
Ms. Weldon: You are talking everything. See, I didn't give you the
statistics for 12th... OK. I didn't may from i to 12 for these target Press.
I gave you llth and 12th year social services, so you are giving, me a
misleading figure by saying $5,000,000. First of all... let me finir", let me
finish) I know that if those boundaries are extended, this area will get
money for the sole purpose of building up Biscayne Boulevard. Edison -Little
River itself, has not been the consideration of this Commission before, as far
as funding is concerned, and it will not be if the boundaries are extended.
The money will go to Biscayne Boulevard, and I know thin, because right now it
is a matter of extending boundaries to give them $50,000, period!
Mayor Suarez: Well, I can't predict what the Commission is going to do, but,
for myself, I know that I would never vote according to that priority that you
suggest would happen here. I don't think it would, really. Biscayne
Boulevard is a factor in that area, obviously, and it affects how the rest of
Edison -Little River grows or doesn't grow, but I don't think we would ever
lean over backwards on behalf of Biscayne at all.
Me. Weldon: And on his thing about first come, first serve, for allocations,
you are dealing with City...
Mr. Castaneda: That is for housing.
Ms. Weldon: ... for housing.
Mr. Castaneda: Housing rehab.
Ms. Weldon: You are dealing with City-wide problems here. How can you give a
first come, first serve? It should be equally distributed.
Mr. Castaneda: No, we used to do that in the early years, and what happened
was that some target areas did not use up their allocation, and money was not
being used efficiently.
Ms. Weldon: If they don't use it up, then you redistribute. You don't give
first come, first serve, because every City ought to... the entire City of
Miami needs developing and needs housing. Now that line of thinking scares
me
Mr. Castaneda: But, if there is still money available, you know, for...
Me. Weldon: If there is money available, how come you are not funding any new
programs?
Mr. Castaneda: For housing rehab.
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Ms. Weldon: OK, if you are not using all the housing rehab money, how come
you are not relocating it to other sources that are needed?
Mr. Castaneda: Oh, no, what is happening is that... ,
Ms. Weldon: And... wait a minute, we have a housing problem in Miami and you
are telling me all the funds aren't being used up?
Mayor Suarez: Oh, no, no, we are using all the housing funds that we can get
our hands on, I guarantee you thatl
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Mr. Castaneda: No, that is not what I am saying, I am saying that if you
apply, we will rehab your house, the monies are not all gone.
Me. Weldon: my final statement is 1 don't contend giving money to Biscayne
Boulevard, but I still contend that my area will suffer if the boundaries are
extended and I definitely oppose it and if Biscayne claims they haven't been
given any money all these years, 1 felt they should have spoken out earlier,
but I... you know, I an looking at Biscayne Boulevard and it is not run down.
You walk through Edison on 63rd N.B., N.W. 3rd, that is run don't You go in
the heart of the area, that is what you call run down. When you go along
Biscayne Boulevard and you see a hotel with a little trash, that is not run
donnt And you don't have people living at those establishments. Those are
businesses. There are such things as business loans. Now, I think the City
needs to consider the people that are not able to... that don't have private
business and they need funding from the City instead of, frankly, considering
businesses along Biscayne Boulevard that may be very well self supporting.
Mayor Suarez: Well, let...
Ms. Weldon: As far as reconsidering, how can you reconsider when you didn't
even let anyone in the Edison area know that you were going to extend his
boundaries, this affected us.
Mr. Castaneda: We have advertised twice. There is a first public hearing and
the second one.
Ms. Weldon: The first public hearing I asked for it to be deferred and you
went ahead.
Mr. Castaneda: The Commisson went ahead.
Mayor Suarez: By the way, one other factor, as far as you talking about
comparisons, I will tell you one tendency and I think Annette and Rose would
have to agree on that, that in the last year and one-half or two years,
Biscayne Boulevard has improved enormously and one reflection of that is the
Cushman School out there, which is thriving, according to the principal,
because of the improvements to Biscayne Boulevard, so we are mindful of the
fact that an effort was needed on Biscayne Boulevard because of the way things
were there, but we are equally mindful, or more mindful, actually, that the
rest of Edison -Little River really has to be improved. I mean, you know how
It was, just a few months ago, off 62nd Street, you couldn't even... you know,
there were craters out there with the infrastructure improvements. We are
doing the best we can. This is not a trade-off moment, believe me, Lori, and
another thing In that there are funds out there. If you come up with a nice,
creative parking type project, you get some monies from the Off -Street Parking
Authority, we still have some left to allocate. I am not saying that is the
way to proceed. They have housing funds, they have all kinds of programs,
rehab. Frank In telling you that there haven't been that many applications
for rehab. There has got to be a reason why people in that area are not
applying for rehab monies. We have got to get... they don't know it, right.
We've got to get them to know that monies are available. We are spending a
lot of it...
Ms. Weldon: They don't own the homes.
Mr. Lopez: You ought to come up with more creative ideas for the housing.
Mayor Suarez: That's right.
Mr. Lopez: (OFF MICROPHCOM)... one was two years ago and never put it into
Implementation.
Mayor Suarez: And for example, in Wynvood we're spending a lot of money in
housing rehab. Of course, Wyawood is the area of the City of Miami that has
the highest rental versus home ownership, by a long shot, with the possible
exception of Germ City, by that's... you are not going to argue with that, are
you, John? OK, do we have any motions at all to reconsider, or not to
reconsider? It I don't hear any motions, I an moving on to the next item.
OK, itm 47.
Mr. Dawkins: To reconsider, I mean, ghat do you mean, to reconsider?
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Mayor Suarez: Well, she wanted us to take back the new district, to
reconsider what we did.
Mr. Dawkins: I'll make the motion, it will go down the drain, I'll make the
motion!
Mayor Suarez: So moved to reconsider.
Mr. Dawkins: It dies for the lack of a second, that is all.
Mr. Plummer: Not going to reconsider, is that...?
Mayor Suarez: No, we have a motion to reconsider. It hasn't been seconded.
Mr. Dawkins: It dies for a lack of a second.
Mr. Carollo: Who made the motion?
Mr. Dawkins: I did.
Mr. Carollo: You want a motion to reconsider?
Mr. Dawkins: Yes, without... and that would be to... but the motion to
reconsider means that we will not expand the boundaries. Now, that is the
motion, see, because I want everybody to know what I am moving. I am moving
to revert back to the old boundaries and not expand them.
Mr. Plummer: Well, but you have got to go... all right, one step... well, it
has not been seconded. My question has to be... I will second it for
discussion, but I probably will vote against the motion, make that clear. Are
you then saying that if you contain the boundaries as they were without the
boulevard, that the same amount of money will go to that designated area?
Mr. Castaneda: Not necessarily, Commissioner.
Mr. Plummer: I didn't ask you. You didn't make the motion. You are not
voting, I don't think.
Mr. Dawkins: Yes.
Mr. Plummer: All right now, how much money has been designated for that total
project?
Mr. Dawkins: That total area or project?
Mr. Plummer: No, that area designated which includes the boulevard. How much
has been designated?
Mayor Suarez: How much from 12th year C.D. funds?
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Mr. Plummer: $450,000?
Mr. Castaneda: $150,000.
Mr. Plummer: One hundred..* you mean, we are doing all of this arguing about
$150,000?
Mr. Dawkins: I don't believe it.
Mr. Plummer: God help us if it were $220, we'd be here all nightl
Mr. Castaneda: No, but Commissioner, wait.
Mr. Dawkins: I don't believe itl
Mr. Castaneda: No, but Commissioner, the point is, that 50 percent of the
monies are going to city-wide pots which are single family rehab, multi -family
rehab, the economic development pool, which is a multi -family rehab. Yor
example...
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Mr. Plummer: All right, I understand that.
Mr. Dawkins: I retake my motion back and let's leave it like it is, and I am
going to make sure...
Ms. Weldon: That's not the figure he gave mel
Mayor Suarez: No, Lori, Lori, please.
Ms. Weldon: That is not the figure that I heard, that wasn't the figure I
heard from C.D., so if he is going to give me a misquotation on a figure on
this aspect, it will happen againl
Mayor Suarez: Ohl
Mr. Dawkins: What did you hear? What did he give you?
Mrs. Kennedy: What figure did you use? ... did you hear?
Ms. Weldon: $50,000.
Mayor Suarez: What?
Ms. Weldon: $50,000, not $150,000.
Mr. Dawkins: $50,000?
Ms. Weldon: See, that is just the beginning. That is just the beginning
right therel
Mr. Castaneda: No, $50,000 is for the organization.
Ms. Weldon: OK, and then where did the other 4150,000 come in at?
Mayor Suarez: The total amount that was distributed in the target area was
4150,000.
Mr. Dawkins: OK, hold it, see...
Mayor Suarez: You have got a...
Mr. Dawkins: No, no, if you are going to give $50,000 to a Biscayne
organization, then give me $50,000 for Edison -Little River organization. You
guys create these problems, see?
Mr. Plummer: Wait a minute!
Mr. Dawkins: No, no, you are creating these problems.
Mr. Plummers $50,000 and $50,000 is $100,000 and he saying you got $150,000.
Mr. Dawkins: No, but that $50,000 is for planning.
Mr. Plummer: For what?
Mr. Dawkins It is for us to operate an organization to plan.
Mr. Plummers Not... let me tell you what I have in mind.
Mr. Dawkins OK, go ahead, J.L.
Mr. Plummers What I have in mind is, give Biscayne Boulevard $50,000 outright
to be spent as they want to spend it and give this organization $100,000 as
they want to spend it, then you have done for both)
Mayor Suarez: No, no, that money has already been allocated, the $150,000.
Mr. Plummer: We reallocate monies every dayl
Mr. Castaneda: Commissioners, I think we...
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Mayor Suarea: frank, where is the $1500000 going to?
Mr. Castaneda: ... are confusing the issue.
Mr. Plummer: i am not confusing... you •re trying to confuse the issue, but I
know you have got $150,000 and you have got two people, OK?
Mr. Castaneda: No, no.
Mr. Dawkins: OK, go ahead, you have got three groups, J.L., so we have to
give $50,000 to each group.
Mrs. Kennedy: Frank, why don't you explain what you are trying to say?
Mr. Castaneda: There were two economic development groups last year in the
Edison -Little River area. One is headed by Jerry Gleekel, which is the...
Mr. Dawkins: So give them nothing. Go ahead.
Mr. Castaneda: OK, the other group is the Haitian Task Force, which again
received $50,000.
Mr. Dawkins: OK.
Mr. Castaneda: There are two economic development groups in the Edison area
right now. What happened was, that the Biscayne Chamber requested the
creation of another group and it was recommended that way.
Mr. Plummer: Make them a separate entityl
Mr. Castaneda: But, you know, the more... you know I have problems with three
economic development groups in one target area.
Mr. Dawkins: OK, but you got problems with just one.
Mr. Castaneda: Right.
Mr. Dawkins: If you didn't have problems with just one, we wouldn't be here,
so you have got a problem with all of them.
Mr. Plummer: I still say, give $50,000 to Biscayne Boulevard and $100,000 to
Edison -Little River.
Mr. Dawkins: Well, J.L., I would think... I would like to give 450,000 to
the Biscayne group, $50,000 to the Haitian Task Force and $50,000 to that...
Mr. Plummer: Well, wait, the Haitian Task Force is on here for other monies
today. What are they on here for? What have they got, how much?
Mr. Dawkins: Let's give each one $75,000.
Mrs. Kennedy: Why don't we leave it as it is and make sure that the Haitian
Task Force gets their money allocated.
Mr. Plummer: Wait a minute, wait a mantel
Mayor Suarez: But, Frank, wait, wait, let's get the clarification on numbers
here. $150,000 total, which you have proposed allocating how, prior to today?
There was $50,000 for Biscayne, what was the other $100,000?... before we
do...
Mr. Castaneda: $50,000 for Biscayne, $50,000 for the Jerry Gleekel group and
$50,000 for the Haitian Task Force, and $30,000 specifically for commercial
facade in the Biscayne boulevard target area.
Mr. Dawkins: That is 4180,000.
Mayor Suaraz: That was $180,000, yes.
Mr. Dawkins: That is 0180#000.
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Ms. Weldon: And that is $1309000 for Biscayne Boulevard.
Mr. Castaneda: That is the $160,000 that...
Mayor Suarez: wait, wait, Lori. That is $180,000. You gave us before
$150,000, so it is $180,000, the figure?
Mr. Castaneda: The $30,000 is coming from the city-wide funds, that was the
understanding.
Mayor Suarez: So, it is $500000, $50,000, $50,000.
Mr. Castaneda: You see, as the years have gone by, more money is going into
the city-wide funds, and basically the money that has been allocated for the
target area is the money for the community based organization and for social
service programs. We are not funding any social service programs in the Little
River area.
Mr. Dawkins: Well, I'd like to make a motion. I'd like to make a motion. It
is obvious that the Jerry Gleekel group has not functioned. If it had, we
would not have her here and we wouldn't have her here, so why don't you split
the $150,00 between these two groups?... $75,000 for this group and $75,000
for this group, and let our Planning Department, etc., work with these two
groups and do what has to be done, that would be my motion.
Mayor Suarez: So moved. What was the group that gets left out? Do you have
Haitian Task Force too, you said?...
Mr. Dawkins: No.
Mayor Suarez: ...for $50,000? You have Biscayne, Gleekel, and what was the
other one?
Mr. Castaneda: Biscayne, Gleekel and the Haitian Task Force.
Mr. Dawkins: Haitian Task Force? All right, then make it the $150,000, give
each one $50,000.
Mr. Plummer: I second the motion.
Mayor Suarez: So moved and seconded. Now, what is going to happen is, they
are going to come back and want to reopen this, but maybe we will, maybe we
won't.
Mr. Carollo: OK, let's go over the motion again.
Mayor Suarez: The motion is that of the 4150,000, we allocate $50,000 to the
Biscayne economic development entity, 450,000 to the Edison -Little River and
$50,000 to the Haitian Task Force.
Mr. Carollo: Well, are we allocating additional funds to the Haitian Task
Force?
Mr. Plummer: Yes, we have already given them two grants today. We have given
them one for $60,000 and we gave them a grant for 420,000. We have already...
Mr. Castaneda: No, that is to HACAD.
Mr. Plummer: That is to the area. He asked, I assume, to the Haitian
community. We gave them $20,000 for paralegal, and we gave them $600000 in
Item 229 which In child abuse...
Mr. Carollo: Child abuse?
Mr. Plummer: ... that is $80,000 that they have got already today. They are
doing pretty well.
Mr. Dawkinst Go ahead, J.L.
Mr. Plummer: What? No, I am not... he asked a question. I was trying to
answer it. He was not here this morning.
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Mr. Carollo: Well, all that I want to make sure is, that whatever funds we
have, we are splitting them equally around the area.
Mr. Plummer: Ixactly.
Mr. Carollo: Are we doing this then?
Mr. Plummer: Yes, there are three groups, we have $150,000, we are giving
$50,000 to each one. Hour much fairer can you be?
Mr. Carollo: Besides... Annette, can you get here and speak, I can't hear
you, I am sorry.
Me. Eisenberg: First of all, our group becoming a target area has another
impact. When the City appointed us as a target area, that made us eligible,
if you will remember, for County, because Ernie Martin said that if the City
allocated our area as a target area, he Mould come in, so we are leveraging
the money, but if I hear properly, there is an Edison -Little River target area
now, which is the N.S. Chamber of Commerce, my former agency. Then you have
the Haitian task force and now this group that Lori seems interested in. Now,
what you are saying is, that there is only going to be three, not four. You
are eliminating the N.E. Chamber of Commerce. Now, if, in fact, you are doing
that, then we can assume west of Biscayne Boulevard too for City projects.
Mrs. Kennedy: OK, Annette, let me just clarify something and in fact, make a
motion. I think that this should be heard in a little while when we are going
to be hearing about the Community Development Block Grant. I think that all
this discussion is unnecessary at this point and Mr. Mayor, I think that this
frankly should be tabled until we hear of all the allocations.
Mayor Suarez: Yes, I will go along with that. Commissioner Dawkins, if you
want to make... restate your motion, to reconsider, so we go ahead and tell
Lori to make a presentation that we will reconsider, which is what we are
doing, of course.
Mr. Carollo: How about Father Juste, is he getting any funds out of this
here?
Mayor Suarez: Father Juste... Why don't you repeat your motion to reconsider
and we will take up the actual allocation of the monies when we get to
community development...
Mr. Dawkins: Moved.
Mrs. Kennedy: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded. Any discussion?
Mrs. Kennedy: Just to reconsider this.
Mayor Suarez: Just to reconsider this, take back the ordinance, and
reallocate the monies when we get to that point later on in the agenda.
Ms. Eisenberg: Mr. Mayor...
Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded. Any discussion? Call the roll.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Dawkins, who moved
Its adoption:
MOTION NO. 87-555
A NOTION RECONSIDERING RESOLUTION 87-385 ADOPTED ON
APRIL 30, 1987, WHICH EXPANDED THE EDISON/LITTLE RIVER
NEIGHBORHOOD COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT TARGET AREA EAST
BOUND TO, AND INCLUDING BOTH SIDES OF BISCAYNE
BOULEVARD FROM 1-95 ON THE SOUTH TO N.E. 87 STREET ON
THE NORTH.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Kennedy, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote-
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ATES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Comissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
41.A SECOND READING ORDINANCE: INCREASE APPROPRIATIONS FOR BAYFRONT
REDEVSLOPHENT.
B DESIGNATE NEIGHBORHOOD PARRS PROJECTS AS CATEGORY B; AUTHORIZE PLAN
AND DESIGN FOR PARK RENOVATIONS.
Mrs. Kennedy: Mr. Mayor, this morning I was ready to move item number 29,
Bayfront Park, when you got a note from Commissioner Carollo asking to be
tabled until this afternoon. Alan Greer, representing the trust is here and
he has to catch a plane. I think that it is fair to hear him out.
Mr. Carollo: 29, correct, Commissioner?
Mrs. Kennedy: 29 and 30.
Mayor Suarez: Item 29.
Mr. Carollo: Well, I am ready to vote for it. I just want to make sure that
we get some funds allocated to Virginia Key Park. Nov, do I have any
suggestions from my colleagues of how much money they want to give to Virginia
Key Park?
Mrs. Kennedy: Well, this is a motion for Bayfront Park. I don't think that
Virginia Key is any part of this.
Mr. Carollo: Yes, yes, but...
Mr. Dawkins: OK, I would make a suggestion. It will get shot down, but
through Commissioner Kennedy's efforts, we have got $750,000 more to go into
Bayfront Park. I don't see no reason why $200,000 of that cannot be
redirected to the Virginia Key Park, or if you can't touch that money, that
the present Bayfront Park funds that the City of Miami is giving, be cut by
$200,000 and that $200,000 be redirected to the Virginia Key Park, that is
what I was thinking.
Mr. Carollo: That In a possibility, but...
Mrs. Kennedy: Excuse me a second. This was allocated from the State budget
directly to Bayfront Park and only to Bayfront Park. There is no way that we
can reallocate the money.
Mr. Dawkins: All right, who lobbied for $750,000?
Mrs. Kennedy: I did.
Mr. Dawkins: And why didn't you lobby for the whole City?
Mrs. Kennedy: Vhy didn't... why... wait a second!
Mr. Dawkins: You see, that is why I have a problem now. That In why I have a
problem, Commissioner Kennedy. You go up, and all you want is Bayfront Park,
and I keep telling you over and over that I sm not going to spend a penny in
Bayfront Park, unless we spend a dollar in all of the other City parks. So,
you should have, in my opinion now, lobbied for the whole City of !Miami, since
you sit up here and lobby every penny for Bayfront Park.
Mrs. Kennedy: OR, Commissioner Dawkins, I don't know why you keep insisting
that the only thing I care for is Bayfront Park. As a matter of fact, if it
hadn't been for my leadership and a group of concerned citizens, Bayfront Park
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would be an eyesore for years to come. The point is that we need to complete
Bayfront Park for the whole downtown area. Besides, you know, every time that
I talk about Bayfront Park, that is the only time when the inner-city parks
come into play. Why was I the only one who went to Tallahassee? Why didn't
anybody else in this Commission go to Tallahassee and lobby for the inner-city
parks?
Mr. Dawkins: Commissioner Kennedy...
Mrs. Kennedy: But... wait a second, I haven't finished.
Mr. Dawkins: OK, I beg your pardon.
Mrs. Kennedy: OK, to prove that I do care about inner -City parks, I would
like at this time to ask the Administration to have within 60 days, and I
think that that is quite reasonable, some plans, some bids, so that we can
start work on the inner-city parks immediately. The pools is one of the
things that we can start without any problem, and Jack Eads is standing
there - tell me if I am wrong. OK, the other thing that I would like to do at
this point is to instruct the Administration to appoint a five member
committee to go into the neighborhood parks and hear out from the people, hold
public meetings. This is their park. Let them tell us what they would like to
see in the parks.
Mr. Dawkins: Commissioner Kennedy.
Mrs. Kennedy: Yes.
Mr. Dawkins: This is nothing personal, but prior to your arrival on this
Commission, I fought to say that too many dollars were being spent in Bayfront
Park and that the City parks were being allowed to deteriorate. If you will
check the minutes, you will find that constantly I have said, you must develop
the City parks so that the City residents who cannot ride the rapid transit or
the bus downtown to Bayfront Park will have some place to go in the afternoons
to take their children, their grandchildren, and themselves to play in, and
they cannot play in them now, because they are not playable, they are not
serviceable, they do not serve the community, and I will continue to say that
we continue to pull... how many millions of dollars have we put in that park
now, Mr. Bads?
Mr. Bads: ...INAUDIBLE, OFF MICROPHONE...
Mr. Dawkins: Give me a guess.
Mr. Carollo: Going once, going twice... gone, Jackl
Mr. Plummer: The answer he In looking for, the completed project, is
$29,000,000. That's what you are looking for.
Mr. Dawkins: See, all right, $29,000,0001
Mr. Carollo: How much did we start with, originally?
Mr. Dawkins: Twelve?
Mr. Plummer: A dollar two eighty.
Mr. Dawkins: See, and all I am saying is that if you had taken $30,000,000
and built $15,000,000 Bayfront Park and put $15,000,000 in all of the other
City parks, they would be serviceable. That's all I continue to say, and I
will continue to say as long as I sit here as a Commissioner. I am not going
to sit here and continue to have you people, all of you, tell me that if we do
not develop downtown Bayfront Park, it will be an eyesore. Well, what the
hall are the rest of the parks in my neighborhood?... and everybody else's
neighborhood? They are just as much as an eyesore.
Mr. Carollo: Excuse me, sir, who do you mean, when you may, "you people?"
Mr. Dawkins: You white folks.
Mr. Carollo: No, no, not
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Mr. Dawkins: Not you Cubans, just you white folks, but...
Mr. Plummers Vait a minutel That only leaves *net
Mr. Carollo: Now he clarified itl Now he clarified itt
Mr. Plummers Whoa now, that's getting damn personall
Mr. Dawkins: But, all jokes aside, I mean we have to, and Commissioner
Kennedy is no... she is not... this is nothing personal. And she believes in
what she is doing and I believe in what I am doing!
Mr. Carollo: Well, Miller, I think what you are saying is...
Mr. Plummer: Well, why can't we go down the road together?
Mr. Carollo: What you are saying is something that we are all in agreement
on, except maybe some of us are going about it in different ways, but I think
we are all together on this. Now, let's take one step at a time, and I am in
agreement with what you are saying, except the stuff about you white folks. I
don't want to offend my colleague over there.
Mr. Plummer: I was all right until he said he didn't include the Cubans.
Mr. Carollo: He put us three in another category, but I think that the extra
$750,000 that we have, $250,000 of it, at least, should be used for the
following: ...
Mr. Plummer: Joe, you can't do it.
Mrs. Kennedy: Can't do it.
Mr. Plummer: You can't.
Mrs. Kennedy: They will take the whole fund away.
Mr. Plummer: You could rob Peter to pay Paul, but you can't take it...
Mr. Carollo: No, it will be part of Bayf ront Park. Let me explain. Let me
explain, but it is something that is needed.
Mrs. Kennedy: You want to move Virginia Key to Bayfront Park?
Mr. Carollo: No, no, well, you could make a bridge to Virginia Key, but we
had a commitment, as I understood it, that with the monies for Bayfront Park,
we were going to finish the walkway from the Hyatt, all the way to Bayfront
Park, so that could be a complete extension of the walkway from Bicentennial
to the Hyatt, and we need to do everything we possibly can to attract all the
business that we possibly could attract to the Hyatt, with the deficit that we
have there. Now, my suggestion would be, if it could be legally possible to
do this with this money, is to take $250,000 of those dollars to finish that
walkway.
Mr. Plummer: Joe, I appreciate what you are saying, but I was up in
Tallahassee. That money is specifically dedicated for the amphitheater and so
there is no wool pulled over anybody's eyes, that is only the first year
installment. There is a second year installment of a like amount to complete
the amphitheater. Now, what I am saying is, if you want to try, to the
detriment of my colleague, to steal it from other monies, you can, but not
from that. That is designated and restricted.
Mr. Carollo: Well, that is that then, if that is the case. However, we need
to find the monies within that Bayside total budget to finish that walkway,
because Bayfront Park is not going to be finished until we also finish the
walkway from the Hyatt to Bayfront Park. Don't you agree, Commissioner?
Mrs. Kennedy: Let me tell you something. I made a pledge to this Commission
that we would not use City money to fund the completion of Bayfront Park. I
have lobbied a lot of people in the private sector. We have gotten a lot of
private contributors. I went to Tallahassee several times, I spent countless
hours lobbying the Legislators. I finally got the $1,500,000 toward the
completion of the park. I don't think you can take...
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Mr. Plummer: No, it's not the completion of the park. It is the
amphitheater.
Mrs. Kennedy: The amphitheater.
Mr. Plummer: In particular.
Mr. Carollo: Yes, but in order to...
Mayor Suarez: Well, this particular item before us... excuse me,
Commissioner, this particular item before us, we might be able to resolve, if
this Commission wants to stick to the rule of $1.00 for Bayfront Park for each
dollar spent in, we might call it for lack of a better term, neighborhood
parks, or inner-city parks, we can do that. Are we not in a position, Mr.
City Manager, simultaneously with the approval of item 29, to spend a like
amount on the neighborhood parks? Are we close to it? How much money do we
have available in the fund?
Mr. Odio: We are ready to spend $1,300,000, as I understand, right away on
the pools and...
Mr. Carollo: On the neighborhood parks, but wait a minute. We had an
agreement, as I understood it, that part of that money was going to go to the
Virginia Key neighborhood park, which is the main neighborhood park we have
in the City.
Mr. Plummer: Joe, not out of that money, but a commitment out of the total
eight hundred for inner-city, so that is giving eight million of inner-city.
Mr. Odio: Bight million, but we are not ready to go out right now and bid.
Mr. Carollo: Well, we need some money there now, J.L., to make some
improvements for the summer.
Mayor Suarez: But, I don't...
Mr. Carollo: That park is being used tremendously.
Mayor Suarez: I have no idea what you mean by that.
Mrs. Kennedy: John, could you place on the record the commitment to the
inner-city parks.
Mr. Carollo: 48,000,000.
Mrs. Kennedy: Via -via the money obtained for Bayfront Park.
Mr. Carollo: Yes, and we agreed last meeting...
Mayor Suarez: That's a commitment. That In not how much we have now, which
last time we did the two columns to see how much we actually had in cash, I
think the calculations that we were up to, about $1,000,000, on each column
ware we not? So we could actually...
Mr. Gilchrist: He has to answer neighborhood parks, but the total was
$8,000,000. We are asking for an...
Mayor Suarez: No, but how much...
Mr. Plummer: How much money is in the bank?
Mayor Suarez: How much can we actually allocate today if we did twenty-nine,
It we approved the 1.3, actually, it goes up to 1.371, right?... item 297
Mr. Gilchrist: That is only money for Bayfront Park.
Mayor Suarez: We understand that, than how touch do we have available for the
Inner-city parks?
Mr. Dawkins: How touch do you have available period, for the parks?
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Mayor Suarez: Carlos, do you want to give us an update from last time?
Mr. Gilchrists We could use...
Mayor Suares,s Well, pretty close to...
Mr. Gilchriets We have roughly half of $6,000,000 from the bridge.
Mr. Dawkins Roughly? What is roughly? Give me the exact amount.
Mr. Gilchrists Well, it is $5,900,000.
Mr. Odios $5,900,000.
Mr. Dawkins: $5,900,0007
Mr. Gilchrist: Divide it in half.
Mayor Suarez: We have 2.95.
Mr. Plummer: That's in the bank?
Mr. Gilchrist: No, air.
Mr. Dawkins: Well, that is what I say, what do you have in the bank?
Mr. Garcia: We have $1,000,000 in the bank, and the $2,950,000...
Mr. Dawkins: No, no, what do you have in the bank?
Mr. Garcia: $1,000,000, $1,000,000 cash.
Mr. Dawkins: All right now, what contracts do you have for $5,000,000 to
cover half of the $1,000,000...
Mr. Plummer: He's saying we only have a million in the bank. Where are you
going to get a million three?
Mr. Dawkins ...for the neighborhood parks?
Mr. Plummers You are saying there is only a $1,000,000 in the bank. Where is
the million...
Mayor Suarez: What elements of that overall plan could we...
Mr. Dawkins: You are only supposed to use 4500,000 of that million you got in
the bank, OK?... and half of it goes to the neighborhood parks.
Mayor Suarez: How close are we to closing on the port money?
Mr. Plummer: Sound like we are writing some bad checks.
Mr. Gilchrist: We are very close to that, but I don't have it at hand.
Mr. Dawkins: See, they are waffling on you, Mr. Mayor, they are waffling!
Mr. Plummer: No, no, wait a minutel How the hell can you have an item on the
agenda for $1,300,000, when you have only got $500,000 to back it up?
Mr. Gilchrist: The item is to appropriate, and Carlos Garcia is going to the
bond funds available and State wide. They are called the bond pool. All we
are doing was appropriating it so we can make the next step.
Mayor Suarez: Is that build in at 29, that it has to be from the bond money?
Mr. Odios We have to have this to do that.
Mayor Suaresc: Is that built into the agenda item?
Mr. Plummer: Well, the agenda item also cells for $1,371,000 for inner-city.
Mr. Odior We are talking about a million...
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Mr. Plummer: That is likewise in there.
Mr. Odio: That is right, $163540040 for Bayfront Park and $1,371,560 for
city-wide neighborhood parks.
Mrs. Kennedy: And talking about the city -aide, I have with me a resolution
that is going to... was going to come at the next Commission meeting. At this
point, I would like to do it at this Commission meeting, which calls for
designating city-wide neighborhood park renovation as a category "B" project
and the idea is to select planning and design consultants for this work for
the inner-city parks immediately. And Jack, as I stated earlier, I would like
within sixty days, and I think that is very reasonable, to have some bid in
place, and start the work immediately, please.
Mr. Plummer: Read the resolution..
Mrs. Kennedy: OK, let me read the resolution.
Mayor Suarez: Let the Commission look at it.
Mrs. Kennedy: OK.
Mr. Plummer: How long before that fund will be up to the $6,000,000? When
are we getting the money from the crying Italian on the port?
Mr. Garcia: We expect to be getting that money within the month, both the
port monies, and the bond fund monies.
Mr. Dawkins: And if you don't get it, you've gone ahead, and let out
contracts.
Mr. Plummer: No, the Manager has just said that he will not spend a dime on
Bayfront Park until we get that money for the inner-city.
Mr. Dawkins: But, you... all right, but you already have $750,000 from the
State of Florida as we got to spend it; if you don't, it is going to go back.
Mrs. Kennedy: And we...
Mr. Plummer: The amphitheater.
Mr. Alan Greer: Mr. Mayor, can I address the $750,000, no...
Mr. Plummer: No, wait a minute. If you are smart, you will stay out and let
us have our own fight for a minute.
Mayor Suarez: At your own risk, Alan. Let's see if we can do item 20.
Mr. Plummer: Look, why can't we do this?
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Mr. Plummer: Would you listen to me for one minute, all right? May I suggest
that we consider the following. That we give the one million... what is it,
for the Bayfront Park?
Mr. Odio: Three fifty, four forty.
Mr. Plummer: That we give the $1,354,000 appropriation for Bayfront Park with
the full understanding that non of that honey will be spent until 41,371,000
In in the bank for spending in the inner-city parks, plus, $2500000 for
Virginia Key. Don't we all come out a winner?
Mr. Dawkins: I will to along with that, J.L., if you change your motion to
say that when you have a contract for $1.00 on Bayfront Park, you must have a
signed contract also for the City parks.
Mr. Plummer: That's understood.
Mr. Dawkins; OK, then I will go along with it.
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Mr. Plummer: OK.
Mr. Carollo: The total that is going to neighborhood parks is how much,
again?
Mr. Plummer: Would be $1,370,000 plus $250,000.
Mr. Carollo: $1,370,000...
Mr. Plummer: Plus $250,000 for Virginia Key.
Mr. Carollo: Plus $250,000 for Virginia Key.
Mr. Plummer: Yes, sir.
Mr. Carollo: OK, now, Mr. Gilchrist, if I may, could you explain to us,
basically, what amount of money we would need now to accomplish some of the
minimal things that we need immediately to do in Virginia Key.
Mr. Gilchrist: What we were looking for was the infrastructure necessary to
provide sanitary sewer and water to the beach that is there now, which would
also give this infrastructure connection to the development site next to it.
That total would be approximately $600,000.
Mr. Plummer: OK, but wait a minute now. What did you tell me about the State
of Florida in matching grants for Virginia Key?
Mr. Gilchrist: I didn't tell you that, sir, no. Maybe he did.
Mr. Plummer: Who told me? Jack, who told me? Somebody told me.
Mr. Dawkins: OK, Mr. Manager...
Mr. Corolla: Hold on, let's see what Jack is going to say, or somebody.
Mrs. Kennedy: Wait a second.
Mr. Greer: Mr. Mayor...
Mr. Dawkins: OK, now, let me say something. Mr. Manager, I want you to put
down as one of Miami's legislative priorities, next year, for the Miami
lobbyists who we pay, and for me, and anybody else who wants to lobby, to go
up there and demand $750,000 for the City parks, just as they got $750,000 for
the-Bayfront Park, and I want that as a legislative priority. So...
Mr. Greer: We'll help to lobby for that.
Mayor Suarez: Alan.
Mr. Greer: Mr. Mayor, I wanted to point out...
Mayor Suarez: That's great, we are going to need all the help we can get for
that, because we need to make major improvements in our inner city parks and
everyone ought to understand that we have come up with $8,000,000 in this
process, but that doesn't and the need. Go ahead, Alan.
Mr. Greer: I want to point out one problem with the motion as it now stands.
If you have a requirement that you cannot spend a dollar in the park, Bayfront
Park, without a dollar for inner-city parks, we have Federal monies coming in
for the Pepper fountain and whatnot, that is totally extraneous to this
process, but which will be spent by the City.
Mr. Plummer: No, sir, it only addresses the $8,000,000 on each side. It does
not address any outside funding, such as the amphitheater, is not included in
that $8,000,000, it is aside.
Mayor Suarez: Just like if you get donations or some other sources.
Mr. Greer: Good, I was...
Mayor Suarez: It is City money that resulted from the bonds and from the sale
of City lands.
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Mr. Plummer: All right, let me re -stipulate my motion, if I may.
Mr. Greer; That will be fine, and let me may to Commissioner Dawkins, that
under Commissioner Kennedy's leadership, a bunch of us went up and lobbied for
this and we will work equally hard next year for this additional funding.
Mrs. Kennedys OK, let me...
Mr. Carollos Can somebody answer the question that Commissioner Plummer and I
asked, about matching funds?
Mr. Bads: I'll try to answer it, Commissioner. We feel fairly confident with
$250,000 we will be able to obtain at least a matching grant from the State of
Florida, if not a slightly higher than matching grant from the State of
Florida.
Mr. Carollos How quickly?
Mr. $ads: Probably four to six months, with the matching grant.
Mr. Plummer: I think that...
Mr. Bads; Well, we can start work with what we have got and pursue that grant
at the same time.
Mr. Plummer; Yes, but wait a minute, wait a minute, let's be realistic. Joe
Is talking about things for the summer. If you started tomorrow morning, to
spend, Joe, that $250,000, the work is not going to be completed by summer; as
a matter of fact, it probably would be disruptive to what we have over there
now.
Mr. Carollos Well, now, what we are talking about J.L., is starting the work
as quickly we can in such a way that it is not going to be disruptive. Now...
Mr. Plummer: Well, I would see the construction being done in the so called,
what we don't have, in the so called winter months, which people don't really
use the beach...
Mrs. Kennedy: Right.
Mr. Plummer; ... and I think that it is well worth our while if we have to
wait four months to get that $250,000 doubled and my God, what it will do for
the project, I think is worth while. My motion would be, at this...
Mayor Suarez: In the meantime, the motion sets the money aside for that
purpose.
Mr. Plummer: OK, my motion would be at this time, that we appropriate for
Bayfront Park, the $1,541,000, said appropriation is not to be spent until the
appropriation for the inner-city parks of $1,371,000 and $250,000 for Virginia
Park, coming to a total of 41,621,000, is in the bank and ready to spend, I so
move.
Mr. Dawkins: There again, I have to say again, Commissioner Plummer, you have
to add signed contracts.
Mr. Plummer: That In what I said, ready to spend.
Mr. Dawkins: OK, no, but I want... but see, what I am saying is, when you put
the bid out...
Mr. Plummer: I accept signed contracts.
Mr. Dawkins: OK, thank you.
signed contract.
Mr. Carollos Second the motion.
When you put the bid out, bring me back the.
Mayor Suarez: So moved with those provisos.
Mrs. Kennedy: John needs to say something on that issue.
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Mr. Odios Commissioner...
Mr. Gilchrist: That brings to a halt our operation of completing the
amphitheater in Sayfront Park. This current bid is to complete the stage and
the seating and everything necessary for the amphitheater. You just are
putting that on hold at this time by doing that.
Mr. Plummer: Put what on hold?
Mr. Gilchrist: The completion of the amphitheater.
Mr. Plummer: No, sir, we are not.
Mrs. Kennedy: Yes, you are.
Mr. Plummer: That money is coming from the State.
Mr. Gilchrist: No, sir, that money from the State.....
Mr. Odios Yes, I'll tell you how to solve the problem right now, OK?
Mr. Gilchrist: OK.
Mr. Odio: We will borrow money from the Florida Power and Light franchise
fee, do the amphitheater, and you will reimburse it with the money coming from
the State, right?
Mr. Gilchrist: Right.
Mrs. Kennedy: OK, I second.
Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded.
Mr. Carollo: Well...
Mayor Suarez: Commissioner Carollo.
Mrs. Dougherty: Mr. Mayor and Commissioners, that motion by Commissioner
Plummer is a separate resolution. I will now read the ordinance.
Mrs. Kennedy: Yes, but don't you want to take a call?
Mr. Plummer: I'm telling you the ordinance will not fly. I will not vote for
the ordinance.
Mrs. Dougherty: Unless you put it in the ordinance?
Mr. Plummer: The ordinance is too contrary to my motion.
Mrs. Kennedy: Wait a second. Are you talking about the ordinance that I have
here in City wide neighborhood parks?
Mr. Plummer: I am reading off of the agenda.
Mrs. Kennedy: No, no, this is something that I am introducing right now.
Mr. Plummers Wall, let me see it.
Mrs. Kennedy: OK, let me enter into the record a resolution...
(AT THIS POINT, COMMISSIONER KENNEDY READS RESOLUTION INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD
AS SHOWN HEREINBELOW - RES. 87-556)
Mrs. Kennedy: And I so move.
Mr. Plummer: I second that motion.
Mayor Suaresms The first motion and the second motion were both withdrawn?
Nov motion and s second.
Mrs. bougherty: Wait, he just said this takes the place of your other one and
this takes place in your other one and it doesn't...
Mr. Plummer: All this does is speak to the second portion of it. That's the
"B" portion of the inner city.
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Mr, Dawkins: How do we see how much we are going to spend here, at these
parks?
Mrs. Dougherty: You need to pass the appropriations ordinance. Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Suarez: Yes.
Mrs. Dougherty: We need to pass the appropriations ordinance on item 29.
Mr. Odio: We need the 29.
Mayor Suarez: The motion, Madam City Attorney, is to incorporate into the
ordinance proposed, at item 29...
Mrs. Dougherty: All right, language that Commissioner Plummer passed.
Mayor Suarez: Yes, which is contained in this resolution that we have in
front of us.
Mrs. Dougherty: That is a separate resolution.
Mayor Suarez: Yes.
Mrs. Dougherty: We will incorporate Commissioner Plummer's motion within
ordinance number 29.
Mr. Plummer: Aaahl That will flyl Exactly.
Mayor Suarez: Now, before we vote on it, and I don't mean to throw a monkey
wrench, I just want to make sure Commissioners understand this does not
include a figure, this resolution as to the inner-city parks, I guess the
Manager certainly understands that it is a dollar for dollar situation.
Mr. Plummer: No, it's actually more.
Mr. Odic: No, it is...
Mayor Suarez: OK, oh that is included in another proviso?
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKERS Yes, there will be a separate roll call vote.
Mayor Suarez: OK, do you want that...
Mr. Plummer: What would you wind up with in the inner-city parks is
$1,621,000. Bayfront Park, you might wind up with $1,541,000.
Mayor Suarez: And the wording on the expenditure is going to be, in the basis
of contracting it at the same time or not.
Mr. Plummer: Completed contract, awarded contract, I think he wanted, yes.
Mayor Suarez: OK? And that includes $250,000 to be spent at Virginia Key.
Mr. Plummer: To be used as a matching fund against the State funds.
Mayor Suarez: OK, so moved, seconded. Any discussion? Call the roll.
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AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED-
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTION 1 OF ORDINANCE NO.
101871 ADOPTED DECEMBER 11, 1986 AS AMENDED, THE
CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT APPROPRIATIONS ORDINANCE, BY
ESTABLISHING A SOURCE OF FUNDING FOR THE CITY OF
MIAMI'S MATCHING FUNDS AND INCREASING THE
APPROPRIATION BY $55,700 TO THE "BAYFRONT
REDEVELOPMENT - WALKWAYS AND LANDSCAPING - AREA AN,
PROJECT NO. 331228; INCREASING THE APPROPRIATION OF
THE EXISTING PROJECT ENTITLED "BAYSIDE SPECIALTY
CENTER", PROJECT NO. 322030 IN THE AMOUNT OF $21,076;
RENAMING AND INCREASING THE APPROPRIATION OF EXISTING
PROJECTS ENTITLED "BAYFRONT PARK REDEVELOPMENT -
AMPHITHEATER", PROJECT NO. 331231 AND "BAYFRONT PARK
REDEVELOPMENT - DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT - PHASE II",
PROJECT NO. 332302 IN THE AMOUNTS OF $34,740 AND
$1,260,000 RESPECTIVELY; INCREASING THE APPROPRIATION
BY $1,371,516 TO THE "CITY-WIDE NEIGHBORHOOD PARK
RENOVATION", PROJECT NO. 331303; INCREASING THE
APPROPRIATION OF THE EXISTING PROJECT ENTITLED
"VIRGINIA KEY PARK DEVELOPMENT", PROJECT NO. 331044 IN
THE AMOUNT OF $250,000 AND CONTAINING A REPEALER
PROVISION AND A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE; FURTHER
PROHIBITING THE USE OF THE HEREIN APPROPRIATED
$1,350,440 FOR THE BAYFRONT PARKS PROJECTS UNTIL
ACTUAL FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE AND CONTRACTS ARE SIGNED
RELATED TO THE CITY-WIDE NEIGHBORHOOD PARK RENOVATION
PROJECT.
Passed on its first reading by title at the meeting of May 28, 1987, was taken
up for its second and final reading by title and adoption. On motion of
Commissioner Plummer, seconded by Commissioner Kennedy, the Ordinance was
thereupon given its second and final reading by title and passed and adopted
by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
ABSENT: None
ON ROLL CALL:
Mrs. Kennedy: With pleasure, yes.
THE ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO. 10286.
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and
announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commission and
to the public.
Mr. Odic: Commissioner, I need that resolution declaring category "B."
Mayor Suarez: Are you moving the resolution now, Commissioner?
Mrs. Kennedy: Yes, I did, I so moved.
Mr. Plummer: On resolution "B."
Mrs. Kennedy: Right.
Mr. Plummer: "B."
Mr. Odic: To be designated category "B."
Mr. Plummer: I second it.
Mr. Carollo: Yes, make the motion.
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Mr. PluMMer: I make a motion that we accept category "B".
Mrs. Kennedy: No, I made the motion.
Mr. Plummer: I second the motion.
Mr. Odio: That is so we can spend the monies immediately in the inner-city
parks, Commissioner Dawkins,
Mr. Plummer: Which will trigger the release of the other monies.
Mr. Dawkins: You see, I don't understand what you are saying. First, you
tell me you don't have no money. Nov, you tell me you want a resolution to
spend money immediately. You see, I don't...
Mayor Suaraz: No, no, he shouldn't have said immediately. He said,
simultaneously. He should have said simultaneously. You can't spend it in
one unless you have a contract to spend it in the others.
Mr. Dawkins: OK.
Mr. Plummer: This one will trigger the release for Bayf rout Park by spending
it in the inner-city.
Mayor Suarez: The Vice -Mayor is getting a little tired here.
Mr. Dawkins: Move it.
INAUDIBLE BACKGROUND COMMENTS NOT ENTERED INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD.
Mayor Suarez: Moved, seconded, thirded. Any discussion? Call the roll on
that resolution.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Kennedy, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 87-556
A RESOLUTION DESIGNATING THE PROJECT ENTITLED THE
"CITY-WIDE NEIGHBORHOOD PARK RENOVATIONS PROJECT" AS A
CATEGORY B PROJECT FOR TEN (10) CITY PARKS ON A
COLLECTIVE AND/OR ON AN INDIVIDUAL BASIS AND
AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ADVERTISE FOR, ON A
COLLECTIVE AND/OR ON AN INDIVIDUAL PARK BASIS, THE
PROFESSIONAL SERVICES OF A QUALIFIED PLANNING AND
DESIGN CONSULTANT($), THROUGH THE COMPETITIVE
SELECTION PROCESS, TO PREPARE PLANS, SPECIFICATIONS
AND TO OVERSEE CONSTRUCTION FOR SAID PROJECT(S), ON A
COLLECTIVE AND/OR ON A INDIVIDUAL PARK BASIS;
AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO APPOINT A COMPETITIVE
SELECTION COMMITTEE, ON A COLLECTIVE AND/OR ON AN
INDIVIDUAL PARK PROJECT BASIS, FOR THE CONSULTANT
SELECTION; FURTHER APPOINTING WALTER E. GOLBY TO SERVE
AS THE CHAIRMAN OF SAID COMMITTEE; IN ACCORDANCE WITH
ORDINANCE NO. 9572, ADOPTED FEBRUARY 10, 1983, WHICH
ESTABLISHED PROCEDURES FOR CONTRACTING SUCH
PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AND WHICH ESTABLISHED
COMPETITIVE NEGOTIATION REQUIREMENTS WITH REGARD TO
THE FURNISHING OF SUCH SERVICES.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote-
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AYES-. Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENTt None.
42. ACCEPT BID OF DANVILLE/FINDORF FOR BAYFRONT PARK REDEVELOPMENT, PHASE III
WITH PROVISOS; 425,000 GRANTED TO FLAGAMI COMMUNITY CENTER.
Mayor Suarez: You are very eloquent, Alan. Do you want to add anything
else, at your own risk?
Mr. Greer: Mr. Mayor, you still have item number 30.
Mrs. Kennedy; I move 30.
Mayor Suarez: Thank you.
Mrs. Dougherty: Just a minute.
Mr. Plummer: No, you can't do 30. You can't do 30.
Mrs. Dougherty: I have some information on 30.
Mr. Plummer: Is that separate and aside from the $8,000,000?
Mr. Gilchrist: Yes, we need to take it up in order to get resolved how to
move forward with it.
Mr. Dawkins: What are you going to build with this?
Mr. Gilchrist: We are not going to spend the money today, but there is an
issue on it, that I think the Law Department needs to bring up.
Mr. Dawkins: Well, if you are not going to spend the money today, what makes
it urgent for me to pass it today?
Mr. Plummer: Wait a minute! No, no, hold on. Mr. Dawkins, this... let me
refresh your memory, is the contractor who overbid.
Mr. Dawkins: Oh, he is going to give us......
Mayor Suarez: Underbid.
Mr. Plummer: Under... well, he actually...
Mrs. Doughertys Underbid.
Mr. Plummer: ... overbid, but he meant underbid. Now, OK, Mr. Mayor, we
have tried... what this Comdission said, to see if the second...
Mrs. Dougherty: (OFF MIKE) He In the second bidder.
Mr. Plummer: OK, all right, we have negotiated out that we will return his
bond of performance. In return, he will give in a cash grant, $25,000 to the
City of Miami, and we will award the bid to the second bidder, which is...
Mrs. Dougherty: We can do it either way. Zither award it to the aecomd
bidder. I think the Administration wants to take the lower...
Mr. Plummer: Do you want to take the lower bid? Which do you want?
Mr. Odlo: I want to take the second bidder.
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Mayor Suarez: No, no. The two alternatives are to give it to the second
bidder, with the $25,000 forfeiture, or to go back out for bids.
Mr. Carollo: No, go back out for bids.
Mr. Plummer: No, no, Joe, you are really... you could come up swinging on
that one. That these...
Mayor Suarez: But I just want to clarify what the two options are, because
you made it sound like they could go to...
Mrs. Dougherty: Or alternatively take his bid at this one and he will
indemnify us and defend us.
Mr. Plummer: OK, the first choice is, that you go, you take the $25,000 and
go to the second bidder, or you can take the $25,000 and he will do the job
for $3,654,600.
Mr. Carollo: Which is how much less, Bill, than the second bidder?
Mrs. Dougherty: About $300,000.
Mr. Plummer: About $300,000 less.
Mr. Carollo: Well, look, I said my piece the last time, but obviously the
situation we are in now, as I understand it, is if we go out for bids again,
like I wanted to, and I would like to very much, we are going to run into a
situation that it is going to end up costing us much more, because everyone
knows the numbers already.
Mr. Plummer: You mean second bidding?... rebidding.
Mr. Carollo: Rebidding, correctly. So, I see no other alternative, but to do
either one of two things - either accept third new figures, which is still
lower than the second bidder, and take the $25,000, or...
Mr. Plummer: Plus, he will indemnify and defend the City in any lawsuits.
Mr. Carollo: Right, absolutely.
Mr. Neil Flagman: The indemnification was up to $100,000. We are taking
$50,000 off the corrected price, and also indemnifying you and defending the
lawsuit up to $100,000.
Mr. Plummer: All right, may I make a motion at this time?
Mr. Dawkins: But, what if the suit is more than $100,000?
Mayor Suarez: You don't mean $100,000? You mean up to our sovereign immunity
limits, because it may be more than one incident, or whatever, right? More
than one...
Mr. Flaxman: Well, we only have authority to indemnify you up to the amount
of our bid bond, because of our own financial responsibility, which the
bonding company has agreed to. That would be up to $100,000, plus deduct
$50,000 from the corrected price, which is the figure of $3,654,000.
Mr. Carollo: Mr. Manager, what do you recommend on this?
Mr. Plummer: I hate to say, I don't...
Mrs. Dougherty: He didn't agree to give you the $25,000.
Mr. Odio: I'd like to...
Mr. Flagman: 8xcuse me, just... I think Mayor Suarez did tell me I should
tell you It I had a court reporter. I do have a court reporter here.
Mayor Suarez: And you never Rave us your name, but why don't you do it...
Mr. Flaxmans All right, let me start all over again. My name to Neil 3
FlaMan, attorney at law, representing Danville/Findorff Inc. ti
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Mr. Carollo: Mr. Manager, *hat do you recommend in this?
Mr. Plummer: I will make a motion at this time. Oh, 1 am sorry, you asked a
question?
Mr. Carollo: J.t., hold on, let me ask to see what his opinion is.
Mr. Plummer: Excuse me.
Mr. Odio: One question...
Mr. Carollo: Time out.
Mr. Odlo: No, no, I have my opinion.
Mr. Carollo: I hope somebody has an opinion.
Mr. Plummer: The second bid was three million nine...
Mr. Odio: Yes, I just was confirming something. I'd like to go with the
second bidder and take the $25,000 from the first bidder as a grant and...
Mr. Carollo: And go with the second bidder?
Mr. Odio: Yes, sir.
Mr. Carollo: But, it is going to cost us several hundred thousand dollars
morel
Mr. Odio: Not that much more.
Mayor Suarez: Several he said, he said several.
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Mr. Odio: Three hundred more?
Mr. Carollo: $300,000 more?
Mr. Cather: Six fifty four...
Mr. Odio: It is Three million six fifty four times three million eight eight
twelve The reason for that is that... what worries me is the legal problems
that we could inherit by having negotiated downwards, the first bid.
Mr. Plummer: Oh, that is...
Mrs. Dougherty: No, we...
Mr. Cather: Well look, we are going to end up paying how much more with the
second bidder?
Mr. Cather: Two hundred and thirty-four...
Mr. Odio: Two thirty four.
Mr. Carollo: Two thirty four, well...
Mr. Plummer: If you go to the second bid.
Mr. Odio: If we go to the second.
Mr. Cather: We haven't finished our negotiations with them. We might be
able
to get them down less than that.
Mr. Odlo: At this
point, it would be $234,000 more, but we are protected
from
any...
Mr. Carollo: CK#
let we say this. The only way you are going to get my
vote
on this, is it we
do either one or the other. We accept the new figures
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dealing with, plus the $250000 and the indemnity, or we
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Mayor Suarez: From the second bidder.
Mr. Carollos From the second bidder.
Mr. Cather: The best we can do, Mr. Carollo, with the second bidder. The
best we have been able to do with the second bidder so far, and we wanted to
come to you today and ask you for room to negotiate a little bit, because when
you left us the last time, we were stuck with three million seven zero four.
He has come up to a figure of three million eight eighty-eight, he is willing
to meet. If we can somehow get him between those two figures, we may be able
to get it down to $100,000.
Mr. Carollo: No, the only way that I am going to go for it, is if he meets
the exact amount that we have with him; otherwise, I'd just rather go with
him, take the $250000, get the indemnity that they offered, and if they want
to fight it in court, let's fight it out in court.
Mr. Dawkins: Madam City Attorney...
Mr. Plummer: Well...
Mr. Carollo: But you know this whole thing stinks.
Mr. Cather: I'm confused as to exactly which way you want to go now. We have
a bid, the first bidder has agreed to do the job by deducting $50,000 from the
three million seven zero four; as his penalty, and that would mean it would
cost the City three million six fifty four to award it to Danville /Findorff.
Nov, at the last Commission meeting, you said we will pay the second low
bidder up to three million seven zero four. We negotiated with him, he said:
"The best I can do so far is three million eight eighty-eight."
Mayor Suarez: So that is the differential you should have given us really, it
is $170,000, $180,000 difference, OK.
Mr. Dawkins: Madam City Attorney...
Mr. Cather: Well, with this new price, it is now two hundred and thirty, yes.
Mayor Suarez: OK, and if you add the fifty to that, additional concession
from the first bidder, we get two thirty, OK.
Mr. Carollo: It's two thirty.
Mr. Odio: It is two thirty less the twenty-five.
Mr. Cather: The difference, right now, if we were to accept the negotiated
price of the second bidder, it would cost us $230,000 more to go to the second
bidder.
Mr. Carollo: Doesn't sake sense to...
Mr. Cather: Plus the $25,000.
Mr. Carollo: Doesn't stake sense to spend 4230,000 sire to go to the second
bidder.
Mr. Dawkins: Madam City Attorney.
Mr. Cather: Well, the only problem that you have is if you take the first
bidder now, you are subjecting yourself to a possible...
Mr. Dawkins: That In what I want to ask the City... Madam City Attorney...
Mr. Carollo: You know, every time you get up here and breathe, you are
subjecting yourself to a possible lawsuit.
Mayor Suarez: Wait. Comsissioner Dawkins,
Ms. Dawkins: Madan City Attorney, we have a situation here amd there bar bean
offered two alternatives. Hhich one do you feel we should take, and that you
can defend in court?... which course of action?
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Mrs. Dougherty: Commissioner Dawkins, I think that all three options, and you
really have three, if I could explain it. You have an option of having
$25,000 and having them do the job. You have an option of taking $250000 and
having the second bidder do the job at the best price you can get for them, or
you have a third option of having them do it. Really, those are the two
options. Then...
Mr. Dawkins: Well, we don't have but two options, then.
Mrs. Dougherty: And you have the safest course is obviously to take the...
have the second bidder do it, because then you don't risk a suit, but if you
want to risk the suit because you are saving $300,000, that is what I would
do. And I think it is defensible, because of the case law that I gave you
last week, as well as the legal opinion I passed out today, if you find that
It was a mistake made in good faith.
Mr. Carollo: Well, that is the bottom line. She said it is defensible and we
save plus $300,000.
Mr. Plummer: Are you then recommending we take the 425,000 and award to the
second bidder for that number there?
Mrs. Dougherty: No, I am saying that is the safest course if you want to...
that is the safest course. What I am saying, though, is...
Mr. Carollo: What she says she can defend.
Mrs. Dougherty: ... but I can defend the other course of action.
Mr. Plummer: And the other approach that you are recommending, is what?
Mrs. Dougherty: Is to take the $25,000 and let him do the job for $3,654,000.
Mr. Plummer: Do you concur?
Mr. Odic: That is the cheapest way. I was going to say...
Mr. Plummer: Well, I sure want to go the cheapest way.
Mr. Carollo: Well, that is the cheapest way.
Mr. Dawkins: I want to go the safest way.
Mr. Odic: I was going to safe way.
Mr. Plummer: What?
Mr. Odic: I was going the safe way.
Mr. Carollo: There is no safe way alive, my friend.
Mr. Odic: Well, there In. I'd recommend it through my conscience.
Mr. Carollo: Not even in rowing.
Mrs. Kennedy: You recommend the second option?
Mr. Flaxman: Just for clarification, that second option is as a penalty, so
to speak, he is taking the corrected price of three seven zero four and
deducting $50,000 from it, to bring it down to 43,654,000, that is the bottom
line.
Mayor Suarez: Right, plus and extra $25,000.
Mrs. Dougherty: Plus...
Mr. Flaxman: No, no, we took off 450,000. He took $50,000.
!Mayor Suarez: Oh, you took off $50,000.
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Mr. rlaxman: The other $25,000 is if you take the next bidder, we will lose
$25,000. So, we are giving you...
Mr. Carollo: Look, regardless of which May we go at it, I'd like to bring
something up front right now. I would like the $25,000 to go to Virginia Key.
Mr. Plummer: No, Joe, I have already got... worked on this one.
Mayor Suarez: Oh, I see.
Mr. Plummer: Wait a minute. Sir, you better come back up here, because with
the statement you just made, I think you lost.
Mrs. Kennedy: Yes, we could give it to the inner-city parks.
Mr. Plummer: Now, my understanding is, you are willing to give $25,000 and a
cash donation and do the job for $3,654,000, is that correct?
Mr. Flaxman: Well, we did actually better than that, but the figure comes out
different. We originally said $3,704,000, which was the corrected bid. We
took $50,000 off that and give it back to the City, to bring down to
$3,654,000, that's...
dr. Plummer: Plus the $25,000.
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: No, that isn't, that is double the $25,000.
Mr. Flaxman: That is double the $25,000.
Mayor Suarez: If you do the job, you give us $50,000 less, or a reduction. If
you don't do the job, you give us $25,000 and you go away, that is what he is
saying.
Mr. Flaxman: That is exactly... that is right. We doubled the penalty if we
got the job.
Mrs. Kennedy: As a penalty.
Mr. Flaxman: That's right. We doubled the penalty if we got the job.
Mr. Plummer: That's not acceptable. We will got to court over the one
hundred and fifty, then.
Mayor Suarez: OK, let's hear from the second bidder. Give us your name and
address.
Mr. Mike Gomez: All right, my name is Mike Gomez, address is 1731 S.W. 98
Avenue, executive vice-president for Tatum, Gomez, Smith and Vidales, the
second bidder. I just wanted to express to the Commission my serious concerns
about awarding the bid for a raised amount of money from the low bid. We are
general contractors, we consider ourselves professionals and in occasions, we
do stake mistakes, and I think we should be given the opportunity to justify
that a mistake was made and being able to be exempted from having to do the
job. But, on the other hand, I seriously object to having, after being
awarded, after having been low bidder, being able to raise the amount of
money, and getting the job awarded after all. I think the Commission and the
Public Works Department will lose credibility in the bidding process, if this
was going to be made a habit. I have expressed my concern to the parties that
contacted se and due to the extenuating circumstances, I can see where there
In some negotiation being involved, but on a normal procedure, either would
get awarded the job at our bid price, or all the bids would be thrown out.
Mr. Carollo: Now, look, it is getting to the point that everybody is scared
of doing this or doing that. If it is going to cost us more by bidding it
out, so be it. Every time we are going to take a step, take the solution that
is going to cost us less, you all are scared we are going to get sued, well
fine, take the $25.00 penalty, and just rebid the whole thing. That's my
motion.
Mr. Plamsanc Just for the record, I would like to say that this gentlemen
Wasn't at the last meeting. At the last the meeting, I believe we did submit .
docsmentary evidence to show in fact, a legitimate mistake Was leads, mot in
Judgment, but in figures. '}
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Mr. Carollo: I'm sorry, everybody is out of order.
Mayor Suares: Yes, and we are not, and we...
Mr. Carollo: There is a motion made...
Mayor Suarez: ...are not going to get into the issue of what the mistake was
about, we did that last time.
Mr. Carollo: The motion is to throw the bids out and go for new bids and to
take the $25,000.
Mayor Suarez: I presume the $25,000 in that case comes with an indemnity,
right?
Mr. Flaxman: We have no...
Mayor Suarez: I don't mean an indemnity, I mean a release. You are not going
to...
Mr. Flaxman: That's correct.
Mr. Odio: Excuse me, Mr. Mayor...
Mr. Flaxman: If that motion passes...
Mayor Suarez: I don't think you have any cause of action against us, but we
may as well get a release while we are at it.
Mr. Flaxman: No, no, if that motion does pass, we would naturally agree to
the $25,000. We would like to rebid the job, naturally, because we are giving
you $25,000, recognizing the mistake, I think we are doing an equity, and we
would like the opportunity to rebid the job. We are giving you the $25,000,
so you know that we are sincere in trying to write a rough situation.
Mayor Suarez: We have a motion.
Mr. Plummer: I second the motion.
Mr. Dawkins: Under discussion.
Mrs. Kennedy: What is the motion?
Mr. Plummer: The motion is to just take the $25,000 and rebid the job.
Mrs. Kennedy: Well, I have a problem with that, because...
Mr. Plummer: But we all do.
Mrs. Kennedy: But, well, this is a serious constraint. It is going to take
no less than four months to rebid the job and the...
Mr. Plummers If it goes into a lawsuit, it is going to take a year, and this
guy is talking here, that he has serious reservations about what is going on.
Mrs. Kennedy: But I heard the City Attorney say that she could defend it in
court.
Mr. Plummer: In court will take a year, that is what I am saying.
Mr. Dawkins: It would take a year alone.
Mr. Cather: May I say something?
Mr. Plummer: Sure, why not? Confuse us even more.
Mr. Carollo: Can you do it for less, ter. Cather?
Mr. Cather: At this point in time, we have the first bidder coming back with
$3,654,000. At the last Commission meeting, we were authorized to try to
negotiate with Tatum Gomez, if we could them down to $3,704,0000 we were
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instructed to award the bid to him. He is the second low bidder and if he, at
that time, could come down to $3,704,000, then we were to award the contract
to him. We have started negotiations with him, we have gotten close. We are
hot there yet. 1 think...
Mr. Carollos But, you haven't got him there yet, that is the bottom line.
Mr. Cather: We haven't got him there yet, but we intended to do in this
Commission meeting, before this other matter came up, was to ask you for a
_ little more flexibility in negotiating with Tatum Gomez, so that we don't have
to incur the expense of going back to a rebidding.
Mr. Carollos I call the question.
Mr. Plummer: OK, Joe, let me... yes.
Mayor Suarez: We have a motion to call the question.
Mr. Plummer: I want a discussion.
Mayor Suarez: Do you want ..o...
Mr. Carollo: Fine...
Mr. Plummer: Joe, how about... let me try and compromise. We take the
$25,000.
Mr. Dawkins: Hold itl What is his bid bond?
Mr. Plummer: His bid bond is one fifty.
Mr. Dawkins: One fifty. Why are we letting him off the hook for $25,000?
Mr. Plummer: Because the City Attorney said if you went to court, you would
not get more than $25,000.
Mr. Dawkins: Beg pardon?
Mr. Plummer: The City Attorney said at the last meeting that if you took him
to court, you would not get the whole one fifty, you probably would get
$25,000.
Mrs. Dougherty: If you get your_ damages.
Mr. Dawkins: I just need an answer. That's all.
Mr. Plummer: Now, let me offer a compromise that says that we accept the
$25,000. If they cannot negotiate the second bidder down to the seven ten,
the $3,710,000, then go out to rebidding... that he doesn't hold us, he will
not sue us.
Mr. Carollo: They've given them the possibility and the opportunity to do
this. They have not done it. If they have not done it today, as far as I am
concerned they are finished. We gave the opportunity. Now, let's ask them
one more time. Their attorney is here. Is he still around? Sir, are you
willing to go down to the numbers that we discussed here?
Mrs. Kennedy: I asked him that already.
Mr. Carollo: Well, he said no, ■ir. That's it.
Mr. Plummer: OK, that answers... hey, I tried.
Mayor Suarez: OK, we have a motion.
Mrs. Kennedy: The problem is that it is going to cost us $600,000 more.
Mr. Plummer: Maybe.
Mr. Carollo: Well, that is what the Manager stated to me, but the Manager is
petrified to save those two hundred and plus thousand dollars...
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Mr. Odios Commissioner, i...
Mr. Carollo: ...because of the lawsuit, so...
Mr. Plummer: Well, it is also reasonable to believe that if this man can do
It before for the $3,700,000, that is where he is going to come in again and
no higher, because he knows he will lose. So, that is reasonable also, an
assumption to believe. If he comes in any higher, we throw him out. I second
your :lotion.
Mayor Suarez: !loved and seconded. Any further...
Mr. Odio: Before you vote.
Mayor Suarers Mr. City Manager.
Mr. Odio: I don't like to change my opinion. I think that I recommended, not
because I am petrified, because I get paid to give you the best advice
possible. I believe we should go with the first bid and I take the chance if
she thinks it is defensible. I do not want to delay this project.
Mr. Plummer: Fine, I have no problem with that from the beginning.
Mr. Odio: I do not want to delay the project. It is against my best
judgment, but I feel that I should go ahead and do it then.
Mr. Carollo: But, then you are going to come back to me and...
Mrs. Kennedy: That's what I would like to seel
Mr. Carollo: ... say, "Well, because of you, we got sued."
Mr. Odio: No, sir, I will not do that.
Mrs. Kennedy: You promise?
Mr. Odio: I don't want to come back here, I said —it's going to delay the
park four more months.
Mrs. Kennedy: I see...
Mr. Carollo: You know, and the Mayor come out with his famous statement that:
"I want everybody to know how he voted. He voted which way," and on...
Mrs. Kennedy: I'd like to make a substitute motion and go with the Manager's
recommendation.
Mayor Suarez: So moved.
Mrs. Kennedy: The Manager's recommendation.
Mayor Suarez: The Manager's latest recommendation.
Mr. Carollo: Maybe we ought to wait until tomorrow and see what the strong
newspaper foram of government that we have says... read the editorial page!
Mayor Suarez: We have a substitute motion. Do we have a second on the
substitute swtion?
Mr. Plummer: I can't second both.
withdraw his :lotion.
Mr. Carollo: No, I will not.
Mr. Plummer: I can't second both.
I would prefer that Commissioner Carollo
Mayor Suarez: I'll second the substitute motion.
Mr. Plummer: What?
Mayor Suares: I'll second the substitute action.
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Mr. Plummer: Miller.
Mr. Dawkins: Any further discussion?
Mrs. Kennedy: You run the meeting.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Kennedy, who moved
its adoption:
MOTION NO. 67-557
A MOTION ACCEPTING THE BID OF DANVILLE/FINDORFF, INC. IN
THE PROPOSED AMOUNT OF $3,654,000.00 FOR BAYFRONT PARK
REDEVELOPMENT - PHASE III.
Upon being seconded by Mayor Suarez, the motion was passed and adopted
by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
ABSENT: None
DURING ROLL CALL:
Mr. Plummer: This is on the substitute?
Mr. Foeman: Yes.
Mr. Plummer: I am going to vote yes, but I think I am going to wind up voting
yes on both of them.
Mayor Suarez: OK, as of now, and there is a pending motion...
Mr. Dawkins: No, that is the one you did.
Mayor Suarez: I think the substitute motion takes precedence over the first,
because it contradicts the first.
Mr. Plummer: Did it pass, three to two?
Mayor Suarez: Yes, it passed.
Mr. Plummer: Oh, OK, it passed, yes.
Mayor Suarez: Yes, it passed, and it contradicts the first.
Mr. Carollo: Unless you want to vote yes for the second one, Plummer.
Mayor Suarez: Yes, unless you want to really confuse things and...
Mr. Plummer: Ve never got to the second.
Mr. Carollo: Vhat?
Mr. Plummer: Ve never got to the original motion.
Mr. Carollo: Yes, we could go to the original motion if you want to vote yes
for it.
Mr. Plummer: No, you can't.
Mr. Plummer: No, I would rather go this other way, Joe. I said that up
front, but it wasn't going to fly and the !tanager wasn't recommending it.
Vhen he turns around and recommends the other way is when I changed my mind.
Mrs. Kennedy: Quite so.
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Mr. Carollo: Well, let me tell you what was just done, and this is why I
stuck to ley guns, and throwing them all out. $seed on the Manager's original
recommendation, and the City Attorney's original opinion with the way we
' should go, I think this is going to make this harder for us to win a case if
jthe other party sues us, not because they have done anything wrong. They have
expressed their opinions. Don't misunderstand me, but they are going to point
out to the fact that originally, the City Manager, City Attorney were inclined
to instruct us to recommend to us, to vote for the second bidder.
Mrs. Dougherty: No, I didn't.
Mayor Suarez: Madam City Attorney, do we need to take a vote on the actual
resolution, 30, or have we...?
Mrs. Dougherty: No, sir. I'd like you to take a vote on this, though. In
order to award it to the f irst bidder, we had to f ind that he acted in good
faith in submitting the bid, that he established that the error was made in
the bid preparation, which was not of a magnitude which... which was of a
magnitude which would enforce a severe hardship on the bidder if we enforced
it %nd the contractor's mistake was not one of gross negligence or willful
inattetion and the contractor established that the mistake was discovered and
eommunic!Nted to us before we awarded the bid.
Mr. Carollo: Moved.
Mayor Suarez: So moved.
Mr. Plummer: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Seconded.
Mr. Dawkins: Under discussion. Mr. Manager
Mayor Suarez: Commissioner Dawkins.
Mr. Dawkins: I want you to have someone search the records and I want you to
find and bring back to me the number of times that a small minority contractor
was caught in a bind like this and we let him off the hook. I need that for
my personal information.
Mr. Odic: You mean on the performance bond?... on the bid bond?
Mr. Dawkins: No, I want to know when they bid and underbid, or something and
could not perform, and we let them off the hook.
Mr. Odio: Yes, sir.
Mr. Carollo: To my knowledge, it's never happened.
Mayor Suarez: Yes, when did we ever allow a change in the original bid
amount, because of error. I remember...
Mr. Dawkins: Do you understand what I... I don't know what everybody else is
asking for. Do you know what I am asking for?
Mr. Plummer: Yes.
Mr. Dawkins: I don't know what they are asking for, but do you know what I am
asking for?
Mr. Odic: Yes, sir.
Mr. Dawkins: OK.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I'd like to take at this time and make a motion that.
the $25,000 be given to Flagami Community Center.
Mr. Carollo: Second.
Mrs. Dougherty: You don't get $25,000. J.L., you don't got $25,0001
Mayor Suarez: !loved and seconded.
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Mr. Plummer: Vait a minute. What do you mean, we didn't get the $25,000?
Mrs. Dougherty: if you award it to him, you don't get the $25,000.
Mr. Dawkins: You don't get the $25,000. He knocked.....
Mrs. Dougherty: He takes $50,000 off the bid.
Mr. Cather: If you take the bid price that he is offering us...
Mr. Odic: He took $50,000 off.
Mr. Dawkins: He knocked $50,000 off the total cost.
Mrs. Kennedy: Yes, that is right, $25,000 was the penalty if we got the
second bidder.
Mr. Plummer: No. No!
Mrs. Dougherty: You just saved $300,000, you can find $25,000.
Mr. Odio: We reduced $50,000.
Mr. Dawkins: Ah ha, now you understand, Amigo.
Mr. Plummer: I think we need a five minute recess!
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Mr. Dawkins: Hey Bill, do you know what we're doing? I dont.
Mr. Plummer: What was Commissioner Carollo's motion originally?
Mrs Dougherty: To re -bid
Mr. Plummer: What?
Mr. Odic: You got the $25,000.
Mr. Plummer: The $25,000 is there?
Mr. Flaxman: Mr. Plummer, we only have one hundred fifty to play with, so we
can indemnify you seventy-five, give you the twenty-five and knock fifty off
the purchase price.
Mr. Plummer: That is acceptable.
Mrs. Dougherty: If they pay all defense costs, no mutter what it is.
Mr. Plummer: Sure, that's understood.
Mr. Flazzan: We will do the defending, yes, pay the defense cost.
Mr. Plummer: OK.
Mrs. Dougherty: Over and above the $75,000.
Mr. Plummer: All right.
Mr. Flaxman: Attorney, we will indemnify you for the defense cost...
Mr. Plummer: And your...
Mr. 71&3 an:... in other words, we will defend it for you, and give you the
$75,000 induenification.
Mrs. Dougherty: All right.
Mr. Plummer: And you of course are doing that voluntarily.
Mr. hla>maa: We are doing this all voluntarily.
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Mr. Plummer: My motion stands, Mr. Mayor.
Mr. Carollo: OK, now can you make your additional motion, then.
Mr. Plummer: That was my additional motion.
Mr. Carollo: I make a second to that motion before.
Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded. That also accepted all of the premises of
the fact that there was no gross negligence, etc., and also allocates the
$25,000 directly to the Flagami project.
Mr. Plummer: Yes, sir, Flagami Community Center.
Mayor Suarez: Madam City Attorney, is that a bit much to throw in there? OK,
we can handle it. We've got a motion, do we have a second? Seconded. Any
discussion? Call the roll.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved
its adoption:
MOTION NO. 87-558
A MOTION ACCEPTING THE CITY MANAGER'S FINDINGS THAT: (1)
DANVILLE/FINDORFF INC. ACTED IN GOOD FAITH IN THE
SUBMISSION OF ITS BID FOR BAYFRONT PARK REDEVELOPMENT -
PHASE III, (2) AN ERROR WAS MADE IN THE BID PREPARATION,
WHICH ERROR IS OF A MAGNITUDE THAT WILL CAUSE SEVERE
HARDSHIP ON THE BIDDER IF ITS CORRECTION IS ENFORCED, (3)
SAID ERROR WAS NOT ONE OF GROSS NEGLIGENCE OR WILLFUL
INATTENTION, AND IT WAS DISCOVERED AND COMMUNICATED TO THE
CITY BY THE LOW BIDDER PRIOR TO THE AWARD OF A CONTRACT;
FURTHER ACCEPTING A $25,000 DONATION FROM
DANVILLE/FINDORFF INC. FOR IMPROVEMENTS TO FLAGAMI
COMMUNITY CENTER AND A GUARANTEE TO DEFEND AND TO HOLD THE
CITY HARMLESS IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $75,000 IN ANY
LITIGATION WHICH MAY RESULT FROM THIS AWARD.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Carollo, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Mr. Cather: Please, I would like to state for the record that this should not
be in any way interpreted as a precedent that we will negotiate with the low
bidder or the second low bidder. The only reason we are going through this,
because of the time, the urgency of time, and time is of the essence in
completing our Bayfront Park, and not delaying this project, which would
affect both Bayside, the Southest Finance Center and everything, the whole
area.
Mr. Plummer: What is his problem?
Mrs. Kennedy: I don't know.
Mr. Plummer: What is your problem?
Mr. Cather: I just want to make sure it is not a precedent, that we are not
going to start doing this in the future.
Mr. Plummer: There is no precedence.
ore. Kennedy: What precedence.
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Mr. Cather: OK, it is on the record.
Mrs. Kennedy: (Comm ENT 3 IN SPANISH)
Mr. Gomez: I think the matter of precedence is important, because if we put a
lot of time and effort and we bid this job and then we end up... is it going
to be a standard, is it going to be put in the contract documents that if I
can prove that I made an honest mistake, I will have a chance to negotiate
with the City if the City has a time restraint? I think it is absurd! I
think it is an unprofessional method of handling the bidding process of a
construction industry.
Mr. Plummer: Sir, did you hear the City Attorney?
Mr. Gomez: I heard her.
Mr. Plummer: All right, one of the stipulations contained therein is that
this mistake was discovered and brought to light prior to the award of the
bid. They die. They brought it to our attention at the last meeting. All
right, sir?
Mr. Gomez: Fine.
Mr. Plummer: They brought that, and then she read us what our options were.
Mr. Gomez: OK.
Mr. Plummer: One of the options that we had is what we did today. It is not
absurd.
Mr. Gomez: You have the option to do anything you want. You are the owner.
Mr. Plummer: That is correct.
Mayor Suarez: Well, defensible option is what we got from our City Attorney.
Mr. Gomez: But, the thing that I am objecting is the fact that there are
established procedures and I understand the legal aspects of it, but in the
construction industry, this is unheard of.
Mr. Plummer: I can't argue with you.
Mr. Gomez: That's all I wanted to say.
Mr. Plummer: I can't argue with you, sir. I don't know.
Mr. Dawkins: What did you say? I didn't hear what you said.
Mr. Gomez: I said that in the construction industry, what you have done is
unheard of.
43. ADMINISTRATION TO MBST WITH COMMUNITY CONCERNING DOMINO PARK.
Mrs. Kennedy: Mr. Mayor before we close the subject of parks, I am sure that
luny of you have received personal appearances and phone calls from folks
worried about the Domino Park, and the way I see it, there are only four
things to do with the park. One, is leave it as it In, the other one is close
the park, the third one would be to modify to better serve the public, and the
last one would be to relocate the park and its activities. At this point, I
think that I would like to instruct the City Administration,, and where is
the Manager?
Mr. Odio: I'w here.
!Mrs. Kennedy: OK, to count with other professional organizations to give you
a revossaendation about what to do with Domino Park and then in turn come back
to this Commission.
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Mr. odios I know what some of thew want to do with that, but I can't say it
publicly.
Mrs. Kennedy: But that is not what I am looking for, OK?
Mr. Plummer: Well, I guess what you are asking for is to have a public
hearing.
Mr. Odics I...
Mrs. Kennedy: Well, more than that. I would like to see more input from the
different segments of the community. Do you want...
Mr. Odic: May I suggest that you hold a town hall meeting over there?
Mr. Plummer: No.
Mr. Odic: No?
Mrs. Kennedy: I'll tell you what, I did that over a year ago and we didn't
accomplish much. You had an equal number of people just arguing and yelling
and I think the City should look into it more deeply...
Mr. Odic: I'll tell you, we...
Mrs. Kennedy: ...and if you want to consult with local universities, that is
f ine, just make sure that you reach a lot of segments in the community and
then cove back to us with a recommendations.
Mr. Odic: May I suggest... can I do a neighborhood poll, door by door, if you
want that?
Mrs. Kennedy: You can do that. OK, that is fine with me.
Mr. Odic: And then at what point, if we...
Mrs. Kennedy: Yes, and then, and that is my motion. OK.
Mr. Dawkins: If you want a public hearing you make the motion and I'll second
Lt.
Mr. Odic: And also...
Mrs. Kennedy: Well, before a public hearing, I'd like for this study and if
that needs a motion, I so move.
Mayor Suarez: So moved. Do we have a second?
Mr. Dawkins: For... yes.
Mr. Plummer: On what?
Mrs. Kennedy: On Domino Park, just to go ahead and talk to local
organizations and come back to us.
Mr. Plummer: That's fine.
Mr. Dawkins: Do a survey.
Mr. Odic: If the idea is to reopen the park, Commissioner Kennedy and stembers
of the Commission...
Mrs. Kennedy: The idea is to see what is the best thing to do in Domino Park.
Mr. Odic: If we decide that, if the majority of you decide afterwards, going
through the whole process, and I'd like to see a design competition asoag the
architect students in the colleges in town to see what would fit there in that
park.
Mrs. Kennedys OK, we can address that at a later date.
Mr. Plummer: Hey, you are going to wind up having a public hearing anyhow on
the thing. So, I don't know why you are avoiding the inevitable.
Mr. Odio: Well, we can do that, set the public hearing today and I will have
a study done, in your hands a week before the public hearing.
Mrs. Kennedy: OK, that's all right.
Mr. Plummer: Here.
Mrs. Kennedy: Yes.
Mr. Odio: Yes, here.
Mayor Suarez: OK, do you have that in mind for the first meeting in July?
Mrs. Kennedy: Let's do it for the first meeting in July.
Mayor Suarez: OK, so moved. Madam Commissioner, when do you want to have
that hearing?
Mrs. Kennedy: First meeting in December is fine and let the City
Administration talk to the other groups from here to then.
Mr. Carollo: December?
Mr. Plummer: Yes.
Mr. Dawkins: Second.
Mr. Plummer: As soon as possible, I'm sure. I would say that the
Administration will schedule it for the first meeting after they have gathered
all the information necessary, the first regular meeting after they have got
all the information, is what should be.
Mayor Suarez: Which, of course will not take more than 30 days, now, Mr. City
Manager?
Mr. Plummer: Oh, mas o menos, mas o menos.
Mayor Suarez: Call the roll.
Mr. Plummer: You will schedule it for the first regular meeting after you get
all the information together. And since you are short of staff...
Mrs. Kennedy: OK.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Kennedy, who moved
Its adoption:
MOTION NO. 87-559
A MOTION INSTRUCTING THE CITY ADMINISTRATION TO MEET
WITH THE DIFFERENT SEGMENTS OF THE COMMUNITY AND
SOLICIT THEIR VIEWS CONCERNING WHAT TO DO ABOUT DOMINO
PARK, AND TO COME BACK BEFORE THIS COMMISSION FOR A
PUBLIC HEARING WHEN THE INFORMATION IN CONNECTION WITH
SAID ISSUE HAS BEEN OBTAINED.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Dawkins, the motion vas passed and
adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ASSENT: None.
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44. A. ALLOCATE $1,191,000 OF (13TH YEAR) COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT
FUNDS TO DESIGNATED SOCIAL SERVICE AGENCIES.
B. AUTHORIZE ENTERING INTO AGREEMENTS WITH SAID AGENCIES.
Mayor Suarez: Item 47, Community Development Block Grant appropriations.
Let's see, this is the third Commission meeting in which we have considered
this item. We have heard from just about every group in one of the other two,
so I am going to first ask only those who have not been recommended, because
If you have been recommended, your beat bet is not to say anything, and if you
haven't recommended, you spoke already, limit your remarks to two minutes.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, before they start...
Mayor Suarez: Yes.
Mr. Plummer: ... I want to make sure that that action of the Commission at
the last meeting, Mr. Manager... Hello, hello? I want to make sure the action
of the Commission at the last meeting in which we took Tacolcy out of social
funds and put them in the regular budget has been taken care of, is that
correct? That's why I need the Manager, because, if that is what the
Commission did at the last meeting, we have to address a minor problem, since
these funds run out on the 30th of June, we have to fund them from the 30th of
June to the let of October, which would be July, August, September, three
months, so we still have got to give them that operating money during. All
right, I will wait for the answer, but that was the action of this Commission
and I just want to make sure that we addressed that minor problem, and that
does in fact, free up $66,000 of the social monies, and takes a recreational
program out of what I consider to be, for food and medicine. I will wait for
the Manager to come to make sure it was put in the regular budget.
Mayor Suarez: OK, proceed.
Me. Diane Silverman: My name is Diane Silverman, I am the executive director
of End World Hunger, 1460 West McNabb Road, Ft. Lauderdale. Our project is
community food gardens for Miami -Dade County. The Commission and the Mayor
have expressed their desire to have the project funded, and I have also spoken
to the H.U.D. in Jacksonville, and they certainly want the project funded.
They are totally in favor of it, but insist that the funds need to come out of
social services and what I was told before is that we needed somehow to make
arrangements to have that money available, and I am here today to find out how
that is going to be funded, because the gardeners are already agreed to
garden. The land is available, the water is available, I have hired the staff,
we have made promises to have community gardens in the low income projects in
Dade County, so people can help themselves, self-help kind of projects to pull
themselves up, and I really don't want to leave today without some kind of
clear cut direction of how this going to happen so that we can keep our word,
and so that the City of Miami won't be embarrassed in breaking its word to the
poor hungry people of Dade County, of which there are over 300,000, and they
are Black, White, Cuban, Haitian, an entire mix of all ages, all educational
statuses and their common denominator is that they are hungry and they want to
help themselves, and they need us to give them a hand to make that happen, so
will you please today guide me of how to get the money so that we can go
forward with this project for our community. Thank you.
Mr. Plummer: Where is the list of monies that are going to where? I don't
have it on 47, the social programs. That is basically... yes, but that is not
In here is it? No, I don't have it in my backup.
Mayor Suarez: I am going to ask Frank for an answer on that, just to clarify
that positive or negative, we have an answer.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, let me ask a question, just maybe for everybody's
help as well as nine. I made a very strong pitch and will again for Miami
Metro Action Plan and I still will make that contention. Other than that and
the one area with Mr, Godoy on housing, are all the rest of the programs taken
care of in social? - Jackie is saying no. 8xcuse me?
Ms. Jackie loll: (INAUDIBLE, OFF MICROPHONE)
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there? OK, all right.
Economic Development, you want to argue
Mayor Suarez: Frank, on the End World Hunger, did you have any suggestions?
Mr. Castaneda: In End World...
Mayor Suarez: It was $30,000.
Mr. Castaneda: It is a social services program that is what H.U..D. has said,
and...
Mayor Suarez: It is Social Services, it is not Economic Development?
Mr. Castaneda: Yes, we have fought with them, and I believe that they have
fought directly, I believe people on your staff have fought, and it has been
social services.
Mayor Suarez: What are the chances that you have from saving monies at some
point during the budget year to reallocate?
Mr. Castaneda: Well, we expected there is going to be some money, you know,
returned by the agency from last year, but in our resolution, we are also
making a recommendation in order to bring all the agencies to the same amount
that they had last year.
Mayor Suarez: And you are divvying up all the surplus too?
Mr. Castaneda: Yes.
Mayor Suarez: And you couldn't find $30,000 for End World Hunger?
Mr. Castaneda: Well, in order to meet the same allocation of all of the
agencies as last year, you have to throw everything in and hope that enough
agencies leave enough left over to bring their allocations to the top.
Mayor Suarez: How much is that, that you are hoping will be generated from
the surpluses when we get to that point?
Mr. Castaneda: I believe we...
Mayor Suarez: Just off the top of your head.
Mr. Castaneda: $50,000, or so.
Mayor Suarez: OK.
Mr. Plummer: Thank you. Frank, you got an extra copy? How far are you off
on this thing? You just freed up some...
Mayor Suarez: That vas from the 12th year Community Development...
Mr. Castaneda: Right, it will be left over funds from the 12th year, and this
Is 13th year.
Mayor Suarez: And you are saying maybe, $50,000?
Mr. Castaneda: Hopefully, even though we are fighting with all the agencies
because they are all trying to sake line item changes and things like that, in
order to use up to the last penny.
Mayor Suarez: Last minute modifications to use up all the monies they got,
right. It happens in the Federal government, I guess, so there is no reason
It shouldn't happen here. OK, Doctor, go ahead.
Mr. Robert Godoy: My name In Robert Godoy. My address, 1851 S.W. 21 Terrace.
I an the executive secretary of Florida Housing Cooperative, and I an talking
as executive secretary of said cooperative, as well as in the name of our
president, Carlos Rodriguez Quesada and all the members of the board.
I
Mr. Plummer: Now, let me make sure, hold it, excuse me. Frank, my
understanding now, he is not talking in the area of social service programs.
Mr. Castaneda: That is correct.
Mr. Plummer: He is into another pot.
Mr. Castaneda: Housing, right.
Mr. Plummer: All right, see, I think this thing is really on here a little
wrong.
Mr. Castaneda: No, the order is incorrect.
Mr. Plummer: Yes, Mr. Mayor, in my estimation, we should have resolved the
social service programs first.
Mr. Castaneda: First, then economic development and then whatever.
Mr. Plummer: Then Economic Development, then Housing, then the total budget
would have been I think, more in line, and if we are ever going to get out of
_ here, Mr. Mayor, I would recommend that we speak to the social services
programs first, get that resolved...
Mayor Suarez: OK, let's see if there are any pending issues on the social
services. We will take you up in a second. (BRIEF COMMENTS IN SPANISH)
Mr. Godoys Then you are going to give us an opportunity later on?
Mr. Plummer: Sure, sure. Yes.
Mayor Suarez: Yes, we will.
Mr. Godoys Because 47 doesn't say that. 47 is talking of the whole budget.
Mr. Plummer: No, that is the final. All right, let me ask you another
question. Frank...
Mayor Suarez: Which item is the one that we are actually considering, if I
may interrupt the Vice Mayor for a second?
Mr. Castaneda: If we are looking at social services, it would be item 51.
Mayor Suarez: 51, OK, because we have a lot of related items.
Mr. Plummer: Now, Frank, Metro -Miami Action Plan.
Mr. Castaneda: That's an economic development program.
Mr. Plummer: That is economic development also.
Mr. Castaneda: That's correct.
Mr. Plummers OK, then the only thing left up... what else is left up in
social services? I know the...
Mayor Suarez: The one that we took care of, at least to the extent of
$25,000.
Mr. Plummers Now, it is my understanding, Mr. Mayor, that the Useful Aged
wants to make a pitch for money, and it is also my understanding that Mr.
Orlando Urra would like to be considered for more money. Where is Urra, is he
here? Orlando?
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Mr. Plummer: My understanding is, you want to make a pitch for more money, is
that correct? OK, and I think at this particular point... Blanco, you do
also? OK, I think what we need to hear is for those people who want to make a
Patent and then we can decide yes or no, and then we can proceed to close the
social service, because I think everybody else is satisfied.
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Mayor Suarez: What is your item, Carmen?
Ms. Carmen Maine: Well, my item is a little raise in the Youthful Aged. My
name is Carmen Maine, I am the executive director of the Used Aged
Association. We already have, and it has been approved by the Community
Development, the old the old grant, but we really need a little increase in
that amount, because the number of services we provide, it has been multiplied
In a very, very high amount, so we really need...
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Ms. Maine: Yes, Mr. Plummer, we really need a new place, I mean, we already
are going to be moved at the end of this month, and the rent is a little high,
so I hope all of you are contemplating our necessity. I love to see this City
grow and beautiful, and all of those wonderful projects that the City has, but
this is a real high problem, old people hungry and we have to feed them. You
know, we serve 700 food bags every 15 days, and it is really a wonderful
service we provide to the community, so I leave this on your conscience.
Thank you.
Mr. Plummer: Blanco, what is it you're requesting more? - quickly.
Mr. Octavio Blanco: Octavio Blanco, Action Committee, 7970 S.W. 1st...
Mr. Plummer: You are recommended for $311,000.
Mr. Blanco: Yes, sir.
Mr. Plummer: And what do you...?
Mr. Blanco: The same as last year. The only thing is, I am trying to catch
up with the...
Mr. Plummer: How much was last year?
Mr. Blanco: That same money, $311,000.
Mr. Plummer: Well, that is what you are recommended for now.
Mr. Blanco: Yes, sir, but then, it is not counted on there the money that I
lose the last three months.
Mr. Plummer: How much more are you asking for?
Mr. Blanco: $30,000.
Mr. Plummer: You will not get it, but that is what you want?
Mr. Blanco: To cover the salary of the program director and insurance. This
is the three months that I lost on the Community Development...
Mr. Plummer: If you get anything, you are ahead of the game, right?
Mr. Blanco: I don't believe no.
Mr. Plummer: Well, I think so.
Mayor Suarez: OK, you are telling us that in addition to whatever surplus you
may find, you also have $66,000 more to allocate?
Mr. Castaneda: If the other money goes in the General Fund.
Mayor Suarez: It coaxes from the General Fund, you said into the General
Fund... from the General Fund.
Mr. Castaneda: Right, that Tacolcy goes into the General Fund. of Parks
Department.
Mayor Suarem: Any other groups that are seeking funds from the social,
services portion of Community Development?
Mr. Plummer: Above what you have been recommended for.
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Ms. Angela Vazquez: We have requested...
Mr. Plummer: Don't jeopardize yourself.
Me. Vazquez: Oh, OK.
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Mr. Plummer: How much are you recommended for?
Ms. Vazquez: The same amount as...
Mayor Suarez: Is that Southwest Social Services?
Ms. Vazquez: We requested $30,000.
Mayor Suarez: Give us your name, please.
Me. Vazquez: Angela Vazquez from Southwest Social Services.
Mr. Plummer: You are on there for $50,000.
Ms. Vazquez: Yes.
Mr. Plummers How much more do you need?
Ms. Vazquez: That is the same allocation... we requested $30,000 extra to
give more meals because we have a waiting list of 200 people.
Mr. Plummer: Well, I'll tell you... 1
Mayor Suarez: Let's establish if we have any other ones then.
Ms. Vazquez: And we also want to clarify that the allocation, some people
might get confused, since we are Flagami also.
Mr. Plummer: Yes, I understand, I understand.
Ms. Vazquez: OK, because I...
Mr. Plummer: Yes, you are the Southwest.
Ms. Vazquez: We are Southwest Social Service.
Mr. Plummer: Right.
Ms. Vazquez: Because you know, sometimes we get mixed up and we grant to get
that...
Mayor Suarez: Volvo got an additional request from Southwest Social Services
for $30,0001 valve got End World Hunger asking for $30,000; we have got the
Useful Aged asking for how such?
Mr. Plummer: Abut $100,000 more.
Mr. Castansda: $100,000.
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Mayor Suarez: How much were they getting, Frank? I forget.
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Mayor Suarez: Vait, wait, Carma. Nov such were they getting?
Mr. Castanslda: They are up for $29,000.
Mayor Suarez: $29,000?
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Mr. Castaneda: And they want $100,000.
Mayor Suarez: And we have got to split a total of $66,000?
Mr. Plummers Right.
Mayor Suarea: And we should not take into account any surplus of 12th year?
Mr. Plummer: Well, wait a minute, no.
What is your monthly?
Mr. John Bennetts Monthly?
Mr. Plummers Yes.
How much, Tacolcy, where are you?
Mr. Bennetts Well, it's $90,000. $90,000 yearly, so however you break it
down, so...
Mr. Plummer: So what is it? - we have to keep them in operation for three
months.
Mayor Suarez: Well, that will be $30,000, then.
Mr. Dawkins: $30,000... (INAUDIBLE)
Mayor Suarez: Well, I'm sorry, a quarter of $90,000, whatever.
Mr. Dawkins: $25,000.
Mayor Suarez: $22,500.
Mr. Plummer: Well, we have got to keep them in operation for that next three
months, before we trade them over.
Mayor Suarez: OK, $22,500 is needed.
Mr. Plummer: For Tacolcy, so we have got to deduct that, and call it $23,000
from the $66,000, that leaves us $43,000 to divide.
Mayor Suarez: $43,000 to divide.
Ms. Silverman: May I make an additional comment, please? Of the 1,000
community gardens that are going to be planted in Dade County, over 60 percent
of them are in the City of Miami. Every garden feeds over five people, that
is 5,000 people in Dade County that are going to be having food, not just this
year and not just one day, but every day, every year, through their own
efforts, also as an example to other people that they can do the same, because
not only will we fund those gardens, but we will also find ways to fund new
ones, so we are talking about a program that will affect, favorably affect,
every single community, low income community in Dade County and do it in a way
that will begin help having these people be able to take care of themselves,
instead of being a burden on everyone. They have the opportunity to become a
useful part of society, and and their hunger problem for themselves and other
people at the same time, so I really would ask you to give extra consideration
to the self-help program that is for the entire County.
Ms. Maine: May I talk? One, I don't see...
Mayor Suarez: Wait, let us do some figuring here. What were you requesting,
Orlando?
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Mayor Suarez: No, it is economic development.
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Mr. Plummer: That's great!
Mayor Suarez: I Mould entertain a motion to spilt $45,000 in three ways
evenly, $15,000, $15,000 and $15#000 between End World Hunger...
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Me. Maine: 1xcuse me, Mayor.
Mayor Suareet useful Aged, and... Southwest, or Flagami Social Services and
the $22,500 to complete your three months.
Mr. Plummer: What are we going to do about the Action?
Mayor Suarez: For which?
Mr. Plummer: Action, the transportation.
Mayor Suarez: You guys are probably practically adopted by the Legislature,
now, right? I could have sworn I saw somebody with a file folder the other
day, that showed a $200,000 grant there.
Mr. Dawkins: How many agencies are asking for additonal :Honey?
Mr. Plummer: Four.
Me. Maine: May I, please?
Mayor Suarez: We have got to finally decide this. We can't forever go at
this.
Ms. Maine: No, because, Mr. Mayor, I don't think that it is fair that you
divide an amount that you have ready to give to an agency, when some agency
has so much, and some others have so little. You see, we only have $29,000,
and we provide a lot of service, so I don't think it is fair to divide it
equal parts.
Mayor Suarez: Yes, but one of the agencies that I was proposing under that
formula was not getting anything right now, and it is just to help them get
off the ground, and see if their program really would have the effect that
they...
Ms. Maine: Well, for those that have bigger amounts, so...
Ms. Silverman: We based our program on receiving the $30,000 that the
Commission had promised us.
Mr. Plummer: No, we didn't ever promise you. We said we would include it in
the discussion of this item. We never promised the money.
Mayor Suarez: Frank, can we also provide that any that any monies returned to
us from 12th year would be allocated to the Useful Aged, up to a certain
amount?
Mr. Castaneda: Well, they were in there for an amount of money.
Mayor Suarez: They have got $29,000, they would have another $15,000 under
this, that's 444,000, and we could say up to another $50,000...
Mr. Castaneda: Commissioners, let me just state that out of the money that
was coming back, we were recommending that the first $3,850 went to the
Industrial Horse for the Blind, and that would bring them whole= the next
$2,265, to the Association of the Useful Aged; the next $5,000 to Belafonte
Tacolcy, which now would be out, and the next $20,000 to Catholic Community
Services - Centro Mater Child Care.
Mr. Plummer: Where are we going to put the extra $6,000? That is the only
thing we don't have All right, let me tell you, let me make a motion,
see It it will fly. I make a motion at this time, that we accept the outline
as given to us. We add $15,000 to Action. We give $15,000 to World Hunger.
We give an additional grant of 415,000 to the Useful Aged. We give an
additional $159000 to Southwest; $6,000 we give to Tacolcy for operating.
expenses, and the additional monies for operating expenses come from the
regular budget of the City of Miami. I so move.
Mayor Suarezi So moved, I'll second it.
Mr. Plummer: Miller, you got a problem? What?
June 111 1987
Mr. Dawkins: Call the roil.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 81-560
A RESOLUTION ALLOCATING $1,791,000 OF THIRTEENTH YEAR
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT FUNDS PREVIOUSLY
APPROPRIATED BY ORDINANCE NO. 10287, ADOPTED JUNE 11,
1987, TO THE HEREIN NAMED SOCIAL SERVICE AGENCIES FOR
APPROVED SOCIAL SERVICE PROJECTS; FURTHER AUTHORIZING THE
CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO AGREEMENTS WITH SAID AGENCIES
FOR SAID PROJECTS, IN A FORM ACCEPTABLE TO THE CITY
ATTORNEY, FURTHER EXPRESSING THE CITY COMMISSION'S INTENT
TO ALLOCATE ANY FUND BALANCE OF TWELFTH YEAR COMMUNITY
DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT FUNDS FOR SOCIAL SERVICES IN THE
FOLLOWING MANNERS THE FIRST $3,850 TO THE INDUSTRIAL HOME
FOR THE BLIND FOUNDATION, THE NEXT $2,265 TO THE
ASSOCIATION FOR THE USEFUL AGED, THE NEXT $5,208 TO
BELAFONTE TACOLCY, THE NEXT $20,000 TO BELAFONTE TACOLCY,
THE NEXT $20,000 TO CATHOLIC COMMUNITY SERVICES-CENTRO
HATER CHILD CARE AND THE NEXT $20,000 TO BELAFONTE
TACOLCY.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here
and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Mayor Suarez, the resolution was passed and
adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Mr. Plummer: OK, that is item 51. Now, what are we going to take up? Are we
going to take up economic development now, or are we going to take up housing?
Mr. Mayor, I would like to get to La Liga of Cancer before I leave at 6:30
p.m.
Mayor Suarez: We will get to it. John, you wanted to add something, just by
way of clarifying?
Mr. Bennett: Yes, Commissioner Plummer, did you get straight about putting
us over? - because you were waiting on the Manager.
Mr. Plummer: Sir, you will get $6,000. You will get $6,000 from the social
services and the additional monies that you need, up to the $22,000 will come
from the regular budget, so deduct $6,000 from $22,500, you will get $15,500
from the regular budget. Mr. Manager, you hear that, you've recovered from
your stroke?
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Mr. Plummer: All right, Frank, are we going to do economic development, or
are we going to do housing now?
Mr. Castaneda: I think we should do economic development.
Mr. Plummer: Dine, let's get along with it. Where do we f Lad that in the
book?
Mr. Dawkins: 48.
Mr. Castaneda: Commissioner, that is item 48.
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Mayor Suarez: Item 48. Do we have a companion item to 51, Frank, that has to
be donel
Mr. Plummer: We have a lot of them. We've got 47, 46, 40, SO, 51...
Mayor Suarez: No, I meant that went with the same exact item, that all we have
to do is just performs on 517 is there any companion items that have to be
voted on?
Mr. Castaneda: All six items are companion items.
Mayor Suarez: I know they are related, but I mean, any that have to do with
that particular allocation?... that we just...
Mr. Castaneda: Not with social services. That was it.
THEREUPON THE CITY COMMISSION VENT INTO RECESS AT 5:11
P.M. AND RECONVENED AT 5:16 P.M., WITH ALL MEMBERS OF
THE CITY COMMISSION FOUND TO BE PRESENT EXCEPT
COMMISSIONER CAROLLO.
_ 45. AUTHORIZE EXECUTION OF INDIVIDUAL CONTRACTUAL AGREEMENTS WITH TEN
NEIGHBORHOOD ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATIONS FROM 13TH YEAR COMMUNITY
DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT; ALLOCATE AN ADDITIONAL $50,000 FOR COMMUNITY
BASED ORGANIZATION SELECTED IN THE WYNWOOD COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.
Mayor Suarez: Which item is the one that makes sense to take up next? Not
housing? Economic development is which item?
Ms. Jackie Bell: 48.
Mayor Suarez: 48?
Ms. Bell: Yes.
Mr. Castaneda: 48.
Mayor Suarez: OK, and then we will do 47, after that.
Ms. Jackie Bell: Jackie Bell, 1600 N.V. 3rd Avenue. As you know, we have
been an economic development corporation in Overtown for the past 14th years.
This year we are at a threshold. We are working on an R.F.P. for a
development in downtown Miami, that consists of a hotel, office building and
congregate living. It is going very, very well. I just told Commissioner
Plummer and Commissioner Dawkins, and I don't want to just publicly talk about
what it is, but we went to our advisory board, they recommend this year that
we be funded for the $50,000. We went to the City-wide Community Developssent
Task Force board. They did not... the night that they recommended it, I had
to leave, I was ill, but you had their chairman come before you in one of
these hearings and support the project, and we need the dollars for
administration dollars, and our contract with the City will be over on the
30th as we told you before. We would please like for you to consider giving
us that $50,000, so we can continue with our , in doing what we are
doing. Thank you.
Mr. Dawkins: (INAUDIBLE, OFF MICROPHONE)
us. Bell: OK.
Mr. Plummer: You have been receiving the monies up until this year, is that
correct?
me. Bell: Yes.
Mr. Castaneda: No, not from Community Development funds.
Mr. Plummer: Where has she been getting it from?
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Ms. lolls It has been Community Development dollars.
Mr. Plummer: He said no, and he is the director.
Me. Bells OK, but it has been, OK.
Mr. Plummer: But, wait a minute now. Somebody has got to be wrongl
Ms. Bell: OK, it is Community Development dollars, OK? It came from its
overall funds, from what I understand.
Mr. Castaneda: Not from me.
Ms. Bells Well, OK.
Mr. Plummer: Did you apply to a different city?
Ms. Bells No. In fact, he made...
Mr. Castaneda: Maybe Matthew Schwartz. Matthew?
Ms. Bell: Well, I don't know where the money comes from, let me put it like
that. I don't where it comes from.
Mr. Plummer: Well, I think that is important.
Ms. Bell: But, I do know...
Mr. Plummer: Excuse me. I think that is important.
Ms. Bells I do know that we report... OK, Matthew can tell us.
Mr. Plummer: Where does Jackie's money come from that runs out on the 30th?
Mr. Schwartz: It is from Special Projects account.
Mr. Plummer: OK, and why can't they redo it again this year?
Mr. Castaneda: Special Programs and Accounts he said.
Mr. Schwartz: It was from Special Programs and Accounts and I believe that
money has been deleted.
Mr. Plummer: It has been deleted. OK, next.
Ms. Bell: Thank you.
Dr. Larry Capp: Dr. Larry Capp, 19 West Flagler Street, Room M-106,
representing Metro -Miami Action Plan. Our organization, as you know has been
Involved in a relationship with the City of Miami for the past several years.
We have been involved in a wide range of activities related to economic
development, education, employment and housing within the City of Miami and
throughout Dade County. During the current fiscal year, we have received an
allocation amounting to $100,000 of in -kind services. This consists of two
loaned executives who are on staff at M.M.A.P. and our request today is to
continue the relationship that we have established with the City of Miami...
Mr. Plummer: Larry, let's cut through all of this because we made a
commitment, you know, as far as Miami -Action Plan is concerned. That is what
you are talking on, right? OK, now, we told you if you went out and got
funding from other sources, come back, and if you didn't, don't come back.
Now, how much did you get from other sources?
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Dr. Capp: We got $70,000 from the School Board in new money this year. We
are requesting even more next year, as they go through their budget cycle.
Mr. Plummer: No, no, not the bird in the buah, the bird in the hand, How
ouch did you get this year?
Pr. Capp: $70,000,
Mr. Plummer: All right, now, what is it fair, we gave you $100,000 last year,
which you didn't spend all, correct?
Dr. Capp: Well, it wasn't a cash donation, Commissioner. It was in -kind.
Mr. Plummer: We gave you up to $100,000 and you didn't spend it all.
Dr. Capp: Well, the fiscal year hasn't ended, and we do have plans for all
that was allocated to us.
Mr. Plummer: What are you really, honestly looking for to this Commission?
Dr. Capp: We would like to especially maintain the two staff positions that
we have.
Mr. Plummer: And that is how much?
Dr. Capp: I believe that comes to $100,000 minus $17,000, is that correct,
Frank?
Mr. Castaneda: Right, it is about $86,000.
Dr. Capp: $63,000.
Mr. Plummer: You are not going to get it, Larry, OK? I think you are going
to get $50,000. I just... you know, I am going to fight for you for that! I
just don't see that there is going to be that much there. I am going to try
to, so you are asking for $83,000.
Dr. Capp: Just to maintain the two staff positions that we have.
Mr. Plummer: I understand and we are going to do the best we can. We don't
need the commercial.
Dr. Capp: We'll appreciate it if you can do the best you can.
Mr. Plummer: Do what we can, OK?
Mayor Suarez: What are you recommending them for, Frank?
Mr. Plummer: For nothing.
Mayor Suarez:
Mr. Plummer: But, Mr. Mayor, I want it on the record, to recall to everybody,
that we told them if they went out and got participation from others, then
come back and we would do something. That was our commitment.
Mr. Odio: Why don't they go to the Beacon Council. The Beacon Council is
here for economic development, that is their main task and their only task.
Why can't they...
Dr. Capp: We have talked to the Beacon Council and they are working with us
on a couple of projects. They are going to try to raise some funds to help us
on a special economic development project. However, they are limited, they
are not a funding organization. They don't give funds to anybody. They are
very specific in terms of their mission and what they are going to do.
Mr. Plummer: OK, who else? Where is Orlando?
Mr. Carlos Luis Brito: My name is Carlos Luis Brito. I am the executive
director of the Allapattah Business Development Authority, the only C.B.O.
working today in the Allapattah area. As you know, Allapattah Merchants
Association is not operating anymore, and that is the reason for which our
boundaries have been extended. In other words, our C.B.O. is now doing the
work of two community based organizations, I repeat, two, with only two
employees, and receiving compensation for only one. Definitely, we used to
Increase our personnel to be able to fulfill Allepattah's needs.
Mr. Plummer: Now much more?
Mr. Srito: 825,000 more. That will save the taxpayers $25,000.
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Mr. Plummer: You mean, you are asking for $25,000 on top of your $50,000?
Mr. Britos That is right.
Mr. Plummers And what do you propose to use it for?
Mr. Britos Well, we are going to be working on the other area that was
covered by Allapattah Merchant's Association.
Mr. Plummer: OK, and you want $25,000. All right, who else?
Mr. Britos That is all we are asking for.
Mr. Plummer: That is all?
Mr. Brito: That's all.
Mr. Plummer: Oh... what the hell.
Mayor Suarez: In the afternoon.
Mr. Plummer: So that is the Allapattah Business Development Corp.
Mr. Brito: Authority.
Mr. Plummer: What?
Mr. Brito: Allapattah Business Development Authority.
Mr. Plummer: I have listed here the Allapattah Business Development
Corporation, Inc.
Mr. Brito: But, the name correctly is Allapattah Business Development
Authority, Inc.
Mr. Plummer: If we give you a check made out this way, you will find a way to
cash it, right?
Mr. Brito: OK, I will find out, don't worry.
Mr. Plummer: Yes, I am sure you will.
Mayor Suarez: They will definitely do that.
Mr. Brito: Thank you.
Mr. Manuel Silva: My name is Manuel Silva, I am executive director of Wynvood
Economic Development. I understand that staff is not recommending us for 13th
year funding. We are here to clarify the situation, because since you know
this program was closed for nine months, OK? I came back two years ago, it
took'me over a year...
Mr. Plummer: I'm sorry, which program are you?
Mr. Silva: Wynwood.
Mr. Plummer: OK, that is the one that is not being recommended at this time,
but at a later time, correct?
Mr. Silva: Well, it is...
Mr. Plummer: Frank? You are indicating as in the thing here about the
Wynwood.
Mr. Castaneda: Right. What we are really saying is, that we are not
satisfied with the progress of this corporation, that we would like to go out
and select a new corporation to come back to the City Commission with a now
group.
Mr. Rlummer: But, do you have the $500000 in this out?
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Mr. Castaneda: Yes, the $50,000
Wynvood area, but I am not...
Mr. Plummer: How is it listed?
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Is in there. They are allocated for the
Mr. Castaneda: It is number 10 in the recommendation list. it is...
Mr. Plummer: A community based organization for the Wynwood area. So, what
you are saying is, we allocate the money for Wynwood, but you want a different
organization then that which has presently been serving.
Mr. Castaneda: That is correct.
Mr. Plummer: OK.
Mr. Silva: The reason being, which I am not so clear, for Mr. Castaneda to
base his judgment on that. I would like you know, for him to clarify to both
the Commission and this person, as to why...
Mr. Castaneda: No, basically, you know, last year this corporation was in
probation. It has been able to keep their books correctly, but I just don't
feel that it has developed as an economic development power in the Wynwood
area, as other organizations have. If you can compare this corporation to the
one in Allapattah, which were both in probation at the same period of time,
the Allapattah Business Development Authority has progressed tremendously in
relationship to this corporation, and I just don't see the progress that
should be appearing in the corporation in there, and I feel that another
group... that a request for proposals, or a new group should be selected from
that area to handle economic development for the Wynwood area.
Mr. Victor Sanchez: My name is Victor Sanchez, and I come to defend this
program. As you stated, all areas of Miami do not have the same problems.
You have to consider what Mr. Silva was explaining to you. This program was
closed for nine months. When the program opened, he has to enter into and
straighten up a lot of mesa that was on the books. Cutting these funds, or
cutting this program now, you are only delaying the progress of Wynwood. This
is why this area had been neglected, because you are going to look now for a
new organization...
Mayor Suarez: Let me ask, let me propose something here, Victor. One time we
had a similar situation, Frank, I think it was in Overtown, and what we did
In...
Mr. Castaneda: No, we had four programs the last time that we placed in
probation. Two were finally eliminated because they were unable to clean up
their books and there were two left, the Allapattah Business Development
Authority and the Wynwood Economic Development group.
Mayor Suarez: What I was getting ready to say, was that in one case, maybe
more than one, but I know in one case at least, we assigned our City staff to
actually work with the agency, I mean work in the sense of being there when
they approved any of the spending, etc.
Mr. Castaneda: This was one of the organizations.
Mayor Suarez: Who was the City staff person that was unable to get this
organization working right during that time?
Mr. Odio: They were the same people that are here, there at the time we had to
send a staff person.
Mayor Suarez: But now, I'm going to key on the City staff person that was
unable to get this off the ground.
Mr. Castaneda: Ed Blanco from our staff. Ed Blanco.
Mr. Plums:er: Mr. Mayor, may I suggest, In reference to Vynwood, we in no way
are disallowing the funds to Wynwood, but to hold up this whole operation
today to try to decide who is going to administer It, I think is just rosily
too long to take today. 7 think what we need to do is to approve the $50,000
for Vynwood...
Mr. Silva: We are taking for $75,000.
Mr. Plummer: You are asking what?
Mr. Silva: $750000, and they said $25,000.
Mr. Plummer: Well, you can ask all day long, at this stage, you are not even
In the driver's seat, so you had better wait until you... but, I think that
you know, it is in no way denying Wynwood an allocation, so we will live to
fight another day of who is going to run it, OK? That is not going to be
decided today. All we are doing is delegating the money here today.
Mr. Silva: How long would that take?
Mr. Plummer: The next meeting, sir.
Mr. Silva: When is the next meeting?
Mr. Plummer: The regular meeting is July 9th.
Mr. Silva: July 9th, OK, you will decide then?
Mr. Plummer: Excuse me?
Mr. Silva: You will decide then?
Mr. Plummer: Well, if they are ready to recommend at that time, yes, sir.
Mr. Castaneda: We might not be ready to do the recommendation at that time.
Mr. Plummer: Well, my suggestion to you is you get ready, because the funding
runs out the 30th, and I don't want to see too much of a gap in there. If we
don't do it in July, it is probably going to be September. That gives you a
month to get this act together and I think you can do it.
Mayor Suarez: Does that complete the presentations on item 48?
Mr. Plummer: If I give $15,000 to M.M.A.P. ...
Mayor Suarez: Did we not postpone determination of the Biscayne Boulevard
situation under item 48 until we get to 48?
Mr. Plummer: Is that under here also?
Mr. Castaneda: Right, that is number 11.
Mr. Plummer: All right, but that's Biscayne Boulevard Chamber gets $50,000.
Mr. Castaneda: That's correct.
Mr. Plummer: What...
Mr. Castaneda: That is only applicable if the target area In expanded to
Biscayne Boulevard.
Mayor Suarez: Which is what we had done before.
Mr. Castaneda: Right.
Mayor Suarez: We moved to reconsider it, but haven't acted beyond that. I
see N.B. Miami Chamber of Commerce listed here, but they are not represented
here today at this hearing, are they?
Mr. Castaneda: No, they are not, Commissioner.
Mayor Suarez: What are they doing? What is there.... what kinds of
developments have been engaging in?
Mr. Castaneda: Well, they have been involved with the shopping center... why
don't you get up and...
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Mr. Fred Fernandez: Fred Fernandez, Community Development. They have been
involved in several projects. The facade treatment program, the 79th Street
Mail Shopping Center, and also the organization of the area.
Mayor Suarez: Who is the executive director?
Mr. Fernandez: Mr. dleekel.
Mayor Suarez: He is the executive director?
Mr. Fernandez: Yes.
Mr. Plummer: Of the Chamber.
Mr. Fernandez: Also, they were rated number two in the State, among all the
C.B.O.'s. Mr. Gleekel is not present because he is on vacation, and I think
he is away at this moment.
Mayor Suarez: Well, based on which project do you think? ... and then
Commissioner Dawkins.
Mr. Castaneda: No, that was the State application.
Mr. Fernandez: On the State application.
Mr. Dawkins: Because the State recommended them number two, how much money
did they give them?
Mr. Fernandez: $200,000.
Mayor Suarez: Ohl
Mr. Dawkins: They don't need nothing from here. They don't need nothing from
us.
Mayor Suarez: Oh, Ohl I thought those...
Mr. Fernandez: $100,000 is administration, and $100,000 is for projects.
Mayor Suarez: OK, I was going to say, I thought that the...
Mr. Dawkins: I don't care what it is for, they got $200,000.
Mayor Suarez: $200,000 from the State.
Mr. Fernandez: Yes, but Commissioner, we recommend that all the C.B.O.'s
apply to get extra funding in order, in the future, not to depend on the City,
and that is the intention of the creation of the C.B.O.
Mr. Dawkins: You see then, you stand up here, sir, and we listen to the
citizenry, and then you come back and, let's see, prove what they say. Now,
the guys from Wynwood just stood up here and said that they need help, and you
recommend that they apply to the State of Florida, but as the Mayor said, who
went in with them and helped them to apply from the City of Miami?
Mr. Castaneda: We help all the C.B.O.'s apply...
Mr. Dawkins: Who went... OK, all right, I will rephrase it. Nasis the person
whom you sent in and assigned to work with them and developed, designed,
Implement, and carry to the State of Florida their application for whatever
they needed?
Mr. Fernandes: We have on the staff such a person who helped all the
C.B.O.'s. One is Miranda Albury, Ed Bianco.
Mr. Dawkins: I will rephrase it - name, rank and serial number of the person
you assigned?
Mr. Yernandes: Rd Blanco, Hilda Rodriguez.
Mr. Dawkinss OK, who did you assign to work with Mr. Oleskel?
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Mr. Fernandes: Mr. Gleekei is Ed Blanco.
Mr. Dawkins: OK, who did you assign to work with Edison -Little River?
Mr. Fernandez: Edison -Little River, Hilda Rodriguez.
Mr. Dawkins: All right, who did you assign to work with Coconut Grove?
Mr. Fernandez: Hilda Rodriguez.
Mr. Dawkins: Who did you assign to work with Allapattah?
Mr. Fernandez: Ed Blanco.
Mr. Dawkins: OK, and what kind of super person is Ed Blanco that he can get
all of this done?
Mr. Fernandez: Commissioner, besides the staff of Community Development,
Miami Greater United, and United School of America is helping all the C.B.O.'s
in the City of Miami to put together applications, not only to the Federal
government, to the State and other funding corporations and other funding
sources.
Mr. Dawkins: All I am saying to you, sir, and my fellow Commissioners, is I
revel and jump for joy because the C.B.O. was able to get $200,000, and I say
to you, that allows us to take the $50,000 that we were going to give them and
redistribute it and divide it between the others who need it. That's all I am
saying.
Mr. Fernandez: Commissioner, I think in certain ways it is unfair, because
for example, Coconut Grove Economic Development Corporation also got the
$200,000 and we...
Mr. Dawkins: That is $100,000 we have to divide. That's all, I have no
probleml
Mr. Fernandez: Well, we have to recognize...
Mr. Dawkins: I don't have no problems with that, sir.
Mr. Fernandez: But, we have to recognize the effort of these C.B.O.'a, that
they are doing the work.
Mr. Plummer: Well, wait a minute. We have to ask one other question.
Besides that group, what other group has State funding as well as what is
being asked for from the City?
Mr. Castaneda: For sure, there are two groups. One is Gleekel's group and
the other group is the Coconut Grove L.D.C.
Mr. Plummer: And how much did they get from the State?
Mr. Castaneda: And the Haitian Task Force is also possible to get
Mr. Plummer: And how much did they get?
Mr. Castaneda: I believe that the State is giving $100,000 for administration
and $100,000 for project and all three groups are in the same conditions.
Mr. Plummer: (WHISTLE)
Mr. Castaneda: But, you see, our job is to get the C.B.O.'s to hustle and to
apply and to get money no they get...
Mr. Plummer: But, are you saying to me for example, the Smaller Business
Opportunity Center does not get any State funding?
Mr. Castaneda: They do not get any State funding, because their board
structure does not permit them to compete.
Mr. Flu miner: OK, but here again, I think if this Commission is trying to be
fair„ we have got to total all of the dollars including the State dollars, and
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1 don't think that we can deny some, just because others got a big grant, and
then you go snatching them up to see who did the beat job, it doesn't really
come out fair where this one got $50,000 and this one got $250,000 and you try
to equally match them and try to evaluate...
Mr. Castaneda: Sure, but for example, Small Business Opportunity Center
hustles not in the State, but P.I.C., and they are able to get additional
funding. We try to get everybody here to get additional funding from some
source.
Mr. Plummer: Well, you know how you do that, don't you?
Mr. Castaneda: The Haitian Task Force got a lot of money from...
Mr. Plummer: No, you know how you do that? - each one of these, you reduce
then every year by $10,000, that they fully know that if they don't hustle, at
the end of the fifth year they are not going to have anything, that is how you
do itl
Mr. Castaneda: That was our original recommendation three years ago...
Mr. Plummer: And we rejected it.
Mr. Castaneda: Yes.
Mr. Plummer: You weren't very smart in your lobbying. Well, you know, if
those three organizations are getting State grants of $250,000, I am sorry,
$200,000 each, I don't think they need City money, I've got to be honest with
you. I don't think it is fair, I really don't.
Mr. Castaneda: But, you are penalizing them for hustling.
Mr. Plummer: No, I am notl This is the first year they got it?
Mr. Castaneda: No, they hustle every year and they get it.
Mr. Plummer: Well, and we should make it a rule and a policy that all of the
rest of these are going to be cut in the future by $10,000 every year, and
that will make them hustle. The monies are there.
Mr. Castaneda: A perfect example In in the case of Martin Luther King, that
used to get the State monies, but now they don't, and now they are in a
financial crunch.
Mayor Suarez: That is the opposite example.
Mr. Castaneda: That is the opposite example.
Mr. Plummer: Tom, that is the opposite. Well, you only have so many dollars
to go around. The three that you are saying are getting State funds are who
now... Biscayne Boulevard? ,
Mayor Suarez: Coconut Grove Development.
Mr. Castaneda: Coconut Grove and the...
Mayor Suarez: N.B. Miami Chamber.
Mr. Castaneda: N.B. Miami Chamber, for sure.
Mayor Suarez: A.B.D.A. didn't get any.
Mr. Castaneda: Haitian Task Force is not clear, yet.
Mr. Plunner: Vell, bow does the rest of the...
Mr. Castaneda: Oh, New Washington Heights might be getting it.
Mr. Plummer: Jackie might? When will you know for sure?
Ms. Sell: After July.
Mr. Plummer: Well, how does the rest of the Commission feel? Should these
people that have $200*000 from the State also get $50,000 from the City? Nov,
if that is a negative, then t think we have this other money to divvy up
wherever it needs to be.
Mr. Castaneda: But, you see, the better groups are... you are penalizing the
better groups.
Mr. Plummers No, I am not. I am trying to help them all, that is what I am
trying to do, in the interest of fairness.
Mayor Suarers It is like a co-insurance concept, or a taxation concept. I
would be willing to give them... do the process in two years, as opposed to
removing it all in one year because of a State grant.
Mr. Plummer: All right, do you want to cut them down to $25,000? So we would
then cut down Coconut Grove to $25,000, and we would cut down Northeast to
$25,000, OK?
Mayor Suarez: Just the lobbying services of the City that they get, Frank,
when it is a City project in Tallahassee, are worth $25,000.
Mr. Plummer: All right, may I suggest to you that we give $25,000 to
Allapattah, that we just got back, and $25,000 to the New Washington Heights,
subject to their getting their loan.
Mayor Suarez: So moved.
Mr. Plummer: Well, I am just asking now.
Mayor Suarez: Yes, that sounds good to me.
Mr. Plummer: I see Annette sitting on the edge of her seat. What is your
problem?
Ms. Annette Eisenberg: Our problem is that while we are grateful for the
$50,000, you know that that is not going to let us function properly. If you
are allocating additional funding, and if you do have additional funding, we
would ask that we be considered for a larger amount. Remember, when we came
into being, we met with Ed Blanco, and we were going to submit for the State.
He did not feel, because we were so brand new, and I submitted a State grant
for N.S. Miami Chamber... he felt that we were so new that we would not
qualify for it, but I assure you, next year we will.
Mr. Plummer: Annette, I would say to you, next year we will help you.
Ms. Eisenberg: Fine.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I will make a notion at this time that we accept the
recommendations of the Administration with the following changes: we reduce
Coconut Grove to 425,000, we reduce N.S. to $25,000, we add to the Allapattah
425,000...
Mayor Suarez: Remember the Edison -Little River group too, that we discussed.
Mr. Plummer: Which, the Haitians? But, they didn't get their grant yet.
Mayor Suarez: No, I was thinking of the $50,000 that...
Mr. Plummer: No, $50,000 to Miami Action.
Mayor Suarez: OK, we have not... reisember, we had asked... the motion, it
passed to reconsider, including Edison -Little River in the...
Mr. Castaneda: Shrinking the target area back...
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Mr. Castaneda: Then you leave 11 out.
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Mr. Castaneda: The reference in number 11.
Mayor Suarez: It was the motion for reconsideration that we did before, and
we left the issue pending whether we will finance them or not.
Mrs. Kennedy: Yes, Frank, I made a motion to table it until this came up this
afternoon.
Mr. Plummers OK, so what are you saying? Tell me what you are saying.
Mr. Castaneda: What I am saying is, that if you shrink the target area back
to the F.E.C. railroad, then Biscayne Boulevard Chamber of Commerce does
not...
Mayor Suarez: No, no, assuming we don't... the whole point was to reconsider
the issue in view of the complaints made by Edison -Little River that they
didn't get any money, so if we want to satisfy those concerns, we have to come
up with $50,000 for that group, which was not funded. It is not recommended.
Mr. Plummer: What is the name of that group?
Mayor Suarez: It is Edison -Little River.
Mr. Plummer: We don't have them... do they have a C.B.O.?
Mayor Suarez: I'm sorry, it's not Edison -Little River, it's Edison...
Mr. Castaneda: I am not aware. They applied for social services?
Mr. Plummer: You can't give it to a C.B.O. that doesn't exist.
Mayor Suarez: I don't know why she left.
Mr. Castaneda: No, she is there.
Ms. Lori Weldon: I am here.
Mayor Suarez: Oh! Why don't you tell us the name of your organization and
whether you have got all of your papers in order.
Mr. Plummers No, it has got to be a C.B.O.
Ms. Weldon: I applied for social services for a food program at $262,000.
Now, the community development, the C.B.O. in that area is the M.L.K.
Development Center.
Mr. Plummer: Well...
Ms. Weldon: Because the Haitian Task Force is basically, is primarily...
Mayor Suarez: I thought you had applied as a C.B.O., I'm sorry, I...
Mr. Plummer: They are in here. The Haitian Task Force is here for $50,000.
Ms. Weldon: It is in that target area, but they are primarily directed at...
for the Haitian community.
Mr. Plummer: OK, let me tell you how we will work it, Mr. Mayor.
Mr. Dawkins: It is not primarily, it is.
No. Weldon: Yes, it La. That's for the Haitian community. That was not up
for the Haitian community.
Mr. Plummer: But, we have got to give the money to a C.B.O., and you don't
have one.
Ms. Weldon: M.L.K. Development Center?... Economic Development Center?
Mr. Castansdas No, M.L.K. is funded...
Mr. Plummer: No, M.L.K. is getting 450.000, that is in here.
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Ms. Weldon: OK.
Mayor Suarez: Yes, MIX is all right. I just wanted to make sure that the
allocation, assuming we kept the larger target area, that we are not leaving
out any worthy programs.
Ms. Weldon: However...
Mrs. Kennedy: Commissioner Plummer, could I have your proposal again?
Mr. Plummer: Can I go through the motion again? We accept the as presented,
with the following changes: we reduce Coconut Grove to $25,000, we reduce
N.B. Miami Chamber to $25,000, we add $25,000 to Allapattah, we add $25,000
for New Washington Heights, and we add $50,000 for Miami Action Plan. That is
what is allocated, plus $50,000 for Miami Action, which I feel...
Mr. Carollo: We give at least $60,000 to Miami Action.
Mr. Plummer: Fine, make it $60,000.
Mayor Suarez: Metro Miami Action Plan, $60,000, $25,000 and $25,000.
Mr. Plummer: That is fine. I have no... I'd like to give them the whole
amount, but we just don't have it. That is my motion, Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Suarez: So moved. No second? Dying for lack of interest.
Mr. Carollo: There is a second.
Mayor Suarez: Seconded. Any further discussion? Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 87-561
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE
INDIVIDUAL CONTRACTUAL AGREEMENTS WITH TEN (10)
NEIGHBORHOOD ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ORGANIZATIONS, FOR
THE AMOUNTS SPECIFIED FOR EACH, TO CONTINUE
IMPLEMENTING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROGRAMS, WITH FUNDS
ALLOCATED THEREFORE FROM THE THIRTEENTH YEAR COMMUNITY
DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT; AND ALLOCATE AN ADDITIONAL
FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS ($50,000) FOR THE COMMUNITY
BASED ORGANIZATION SELECTED TO IMPLEMENT A
NEIGHBORHOOD PROGRAM IN THE WYNWOOD COMERCIAL
DISTRICT.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Carollo, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
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46. AUTHORIZE ENTERING INTO A CONTRACT WITH MIAMI CAPITAL DEVELOPMENT, INC.
PROVIDING $50,000 TO ITS REVOLVING LOAN FUND AND $120,000 FOR
ADMINISTRATION.
Mayor Suarez: We have taken care of which items non, Frank, and which ones do
we have left?
Mr. Castaneda: OK, I would suggest that we finish with economic development
by going to Miami Capital.
Mr. Plummer: Oh.
Mrs. Kennedy: Which item is that, Frank?
Mr. Plummer: Wait, that is a regular agenda item, isn't it?
Mr. Castaneda: No, that is part of this whole thing.
Mr. Plummer: All right, what do we have to address there?
Mayor Suarez: Item 49, what is the issue?
Mr. Castaneda: Item 49 is the issue of Miami Capital, $500,000 with the
revolving loan fund, and 4125,000 for administration.
Mr. Plummer: How much? Say again.
Mr. Castaneda: $125,000 for administration, and 4500,000 for the revolving
loan fund.
Mr. Plummer: Is that what is recommended?
Mr. Castaneda: Yes.
Mr. Plummer: I so move.
Mayor Suarez: So moved.
Mrs. Kennedy: Seconded.
Mayor Suarez: Seconded, any discussion. Call the roll on 49.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 87-562
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER
INTO A CONTRACT, IN A FORM ACCEPTABLE TO THE CITY
ATTORNEY, WITH MIAMI CAPITAL DEVELOPMENT, INC. (MCDI)
WHICH PROVIDES $500,000 IN FUNDS THEREBY INCREASING
THE EXISTING REVOLVING LOAN FOND (RLF)= FURTHER
PROVIDING ONE HUNDRED TNBNTY THOUSAND DOLLARS
($120,000) FOR THE ADMINISTRATIVE OPERATIONS OF MCDI
FOR THE PERIOD OF JULY 1, 1987 TO JUNK 30, 1988 WITH
ALL OF THE HEREIN ALLOCATED MONIES BEING ALLOCATED
FROM THE 13TH YEAR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT
FUND.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Kennedy, the resolution vas passed
and adopted by the following vote-
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AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
47. ALLOCATE $48,000 AND $50,000 OF THIRTEENTH YEAR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT
GRANT FUNDS TO JEWISH FAMILY SERVICES, INC. AND FLORIDA HOUSING
COOPERATIVE RESPECTIVELY, FOR IMPROVEMENTS TO ELDERLY LOW INCOME CRIME
VICTIMS.
Mr. Plummer: We have got to do housing now, right?
Mr. Castaneda: OK, let's go to housing. We have housing and Greater Miami
United separate.
Mayor Suarez: Which is housing, 50?
Mr. Plummer: Which is housing?
Mr. Castaneda: The only one that we have related to housing is number 53,
which is the program to put locks in people's houses.
Mr. Plummer: To put what?
Mr. Castaneda: Locks.
Mr. Plummer: Locks?
Mr. Castaneda: Locks. It is for people that have been mugged.
Mr. Dawkins: Not 1-u-x, 1-o-c-k-s.
Mr. Castaneda: That is the Jewish type, lox.
Mrs. Kennedy: Not lox, either.
Mr. Plummer: Do you also provide the bagels.
Mayor Suarez: What was the housing cooperative? What item did they expect to
be?
Mr. Castaneda: Well, the only item that they could fit in here, that is
housing related, number 53, most of the housing programs are carried out by
the Housing and Conservation Agency.
Mr. Plummer: How much for locks?
Mr. Castaneda: $48,000. Basically, people that get mugged, they are referred
by the Police Department to these people, and they put locks on their houses.
Mr. Plummer: OK, and how much is the Florida Cooperative asking for?
Mr. Castaneda: They are asking for $50,000, I believe.
Mr. Carollo: The Florida Cooperative is asking for $50,000.
Mr. Castaneda: Excuse me?
Mr. Carollo: They are asking for $50,000.
Mr. Dawkins: Teo, but this is not the same group now that fined the locks.
Mr. Castansda: No, this is not.., that has nothing to do with that. ;.
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Mr. Plumoers No, no, pick the locks, or fix the locks.
Mr. Carollo: Wait a minutes Who is asking for the locks?
Mr. Castaneda: No, no, the...
Mayor Suarers Why, Frank, why was Florida Housing Cooperative expecting to be
heard today, do you know?
Mr. Carollos Well, because today is the public hearing in Community
Development. This is...
Mayor Suarez: Are ve still holding up their $30,000, is that...
Mr. Castaneda: This is not on the $30,000.
Mayor Suarez: OK.
Mr. Plummer: This is a separate program.
Mayor Suarez: They wanted additional funding?
Mr. Plummer: Yes.
Mr. Castaneda: They want $50,000 and maybe...
Mr. Robert Godoy: We asking for $50,000, so as not to go losing your time.
We asking for $50,000 to be able to buy units to be converted from tenants
into owners.
Mr. Plummer: And this Commission would approve all allocations of money, is
that correct?
Mr. Godoy: The $50,000.
Mr. Plummer: I'll move that we put the $48,000 for locks and $50,000 for
Florida Cooperative. Listen to me over here!... $48,000 for the locks,
$50,000 for the Florida Cooperative, but the City retains the right to approve
all expenditures from that fund of $50,000.
Mr. Castaneda: OK, and what are the $50,000 for?... because I believe that
part of the money is for administration that they are requesting.
Mr. Plummer: Redevelopment...
Mrs. Kennedy: OK...
Mr. Plummer: Redevelopment of buying units, rehabing them and selling them
back out.
Mr. Castaneda: And part of those funds can be used for administration?
Mr.. Godoy: No, the administration... we have our administration expenses
from the County.
Mr. Plummer: No, this is only for the housing.
Mr. Carollo: Only for the housing, correct?
Mr. Castaneda: Only for housing, nothing for...
Mr. Godoy: It is for housing.
Mr. Carollo: Only for housing, OK.
Mr. Plummer: Only for housing.
Mr. Carollo: I second that emotion.
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Mr. Godoy:... and the whole thing and this
Mr. Plummer: And they have to approve it.
Mayor Suarez: Weil have to, because the Manager will have to approve it.
Mr. Plummer: Y so move.
Mrs. Kennedy: Under discussion.
Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded.
Mrs. Kennedy: Under discussion, how much money, Frank, did we give Florida
Housing the last time they were here?
Mr. Castaneda: Well, we have given them $30,000 and...
Mr. Jerry Gereaux: We are now working with Florida Housing Cooperative on the
$30,000 and lath year financing, and we are now in contract negotiations with
them to...
Mrs. Kennedy: OK, and what has happened with that money? What have they
done?
Mr. Gereaux: Well, the money is still sitting up in the U.S. Department of
HUD, I believe. It is done on a draw down basis. But, when we are able to
arrive at a contract that meets the Commission's mandate for the money, then
we will execute the contract and they will go to work, but right now, the
money... we have the money, so to speak.
Mrs. Kennedy: OK, now, what is the Administration recommending?
Mr. Castaneda: Our recommendation is what you have in front of you.
Mr. Godoy: Excuse me. Those $30,000 were from the llth year.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Godoy, may I strongly suggest, sir, that you sit down?
Mr. Godoy: Thank you.
Mayor Suarez: That usually the way of telling you that it might go better for
you if you do.
Mr. Plummer: You are a winner, I believe.
Mr. Dawkins: He is about to be a loser.
Mr. Plummer: I move...
Mr. Carollo: I second, I call the question.
Mayor Suarez: Clarify the motion, Mr. Vice Mayor, repeat it, please.
Mr. Plummer: The motion is, to give $46,000 for the locks, and $50,000 for
Florida Cooperative, with all funds must have approval of the Administration
before allocation.
Mr. Castaneda: And they are for development, not for
Mr. Plummer: Acquiring, redeveloping, and resale of the units.
Mayor Suarez: So moved and seconded. Any discussion? Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who
moved its adoptions
RESOLUTION NO. 87-563
A RESOLUTION ALLOCATING $98,000 OF THIRTEENTH YEAR
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT FUNDS PREVIOUSLY
APPROPRIATED BY ORDINANCE NO. 10287, ADOPTED JUNE 11,
1987, IN THE FOLLOWING MANNER: $48,000 TO JEWISH
FAMILY SERVICES, INC. FOR THE PURPOSE OF PROVIDING
HOME SECURITY IMPROVEMENTS FOR ELDERLY LOW INCOME
CRIME VICTIMS AND $50,000 TO FLORIDA HOUSING
COOPERATIVE FOR THE PURPOSE OF DEVELOPING A HOUSING
COOPERATIVE; AND FURTHER AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER
TO ENTER INTO AGREEMENTS WITH SAID AGENCIES FOR SAID
PROJECTS IN A FORM ACCEPTABLE TO THE CITY ATTORNEY.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Carollo, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
48. ALLOCATE $31,000 OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT FUNDS TO THE BLACK
ARCHIVES HISTORY AND RESEARCH FOUNDATION OF SOUTH FLORIDA TO PROVIDE AN
OVERTOWN HISTORIC PRESERVATION PROJECT; AUTHORIZE CITY ENTERING INTO AN
AGREEMENT WITH SAID AGENCY.
Mr. Castaneda: We have two more items, Commissioner.
Mr. Plumper: What are the other items?
Mr. Castaneda: It is item 52.
Mr. Plummer: Which is what?
Mr. Castaneda: Which is $31,000.
Mayor Suarez: Black Archives.
Mr. Odlo: Black Archives.
Mr. Castaneda: Black Archives, History and Research Foundation.
Mr. Plumper: I second the notion of Commissioner Dawkins.
Mayor Suarez: You move it? Seconded, and discussion? Call the roll on $2.
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The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Dawkins, who
moved its adoptions
RESOLUTION NO. 87-564
A RESOLUTION ALLOCATING $31,000 OF THIRTEENTH YEAR
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT FUNDS PREVIOUSLY
APPROPRIATED BY ORDINANCE NO. 10287, ADOPTED JUNE 11,
1987, TO THE BLACK ARCHIVES HISTORY AND RESEARCH
FOUNDATION OF SOUTH FLORIDA, INC. TO PROVIDE AN
OVERTOWN HISTORIC PRESERVATION PROJECT AND FURTHER
AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO AGREEMENT
WITH SAID AGENCY FOR SAID PROJECT IN A FORM ACCEPTABLE
TO THE CITY ATTORNEY.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
49. AUTHORIZE EXECUTION OF AN AGREEMENT WITH GREATER MIAMI UNITED FOR $100,000
TO PROVIDE SPECIALIZED ADMINISTRATIVE AND TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE TO
CITYWIDE COMMUNITY BASED ORGANIZATIONS INVOLVED IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
PROJECTS.
Mayor Suarez: What is the other item?
Mr. Castaneda: Item 54 is $100,000 for Greater Miami United.
Mr. Plummer: I so move.
Mrs. Kennedy: Second:
Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded. Any discussion? Call the roll.
Mr. Dawkins: What much?
Mr. Castanedas I am sorry, Commissioner?
Mr. Plummer: $100,000.
Mr. Castaneda: $100,000.
Mr. Plummer: Same as last year. Frank, let me ask a question while he is
reading that over. Do we have any money in here again this year for
demolition?
Mr. Castaneda: Yes.
Mr. Plummer: How much?
Mr. Castaneda: $150,000.
Mr. Plummer: Boy, I want to tell you something. The sooner you...
Mr. Carollo: Why can't we take some of this money that is being given to
Greater Miami United and give it to M.M.A.P.?
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Mr. Castaneda: Well, let me say that M.M.A.P. funds Greater Miami 'United.
Mr. Carollo: Weli, that's fine, but not the $400,000.
Mr. Plummer: Another what?
Mr. Carollo: Not this, they don't get the $400,000.
Mr. Plummer: What you are saying is, take $23,000 from Greater Miami and give
It to M.M.A.P? ... which is what they requested.
Mr. Carollo: Well, we had $160,000, so we need to even it out. We got
$100,000 from them, and $60,000 that we approved to M.M.A.P. already, that is
$160,000, so let's break it in half and make it $80,000 and $80,000, so let's
take... well, I'll take your $23,000.
Mr. Plummer: Gary, what is that going to do to you?
Ms. Tony Gary: Reduce the scope of the program.
Mr. Odio: Tony.
Mr. Plummer: Speak in the mike, please.
Mrs. Kennedy: Tony, not Gary.
Mr. Plummer: She's Gary.
Ms. Tony Gary: I am Tony Gary, Greater Miami United, 1699 Coral Way. What it
would do is reduce the program service that we are the contractor negotiating
with the City of Miami to provide, which is essentially technical assistance
to community development corporations, almost all of which you fund are
included in our work program for the coming year.
Mr. Carollo: Well, what we are trying to do, Tony, is to try to balance it
out between both organizations and M.M.A.P., they are going to lose
tremendously if we don't give them some additional monies, so what I am saying
is, give you $80,000 instead of $100,000 and give them $80,000 also.
Mr. Dawkins: I'd say leave it at $100,000 for one and $60,000, for the others
and don't give none of them next year nothing.
Mr. Plummer: No, you don't have that much.
Mr. Carollo: I'd like to make a substitute motion that we make it $80,000 and
$80,000.
Mayor Suarez: We have to reopen...
Mr. Plummer: Can I make a substitute, can I try to do something? I've just
checked with them. We've got a contingency left of $40,000, after all the
Improvements we have made today. May I suggest we give $20,000 each to those
of the groups and make it $80,000 and $80,000. No, wait a minute. We would
take $20,000 from the contingency, give it to M.M.A.P. and leave her with the
$100,000.
Mr. Carollo: Yes, OK, so you have $100,000 and $80,000...
Mr. Plummer: And that will still leave us...
Mr. Carollo: ... and let's give $20,000, the other $20,000 let's give it to
the Association For the Useful Aged.
Mr. Plummer: You can't, Joe. You can't transfer it over to social services.
You can't do it. We are at the max on social services. All eight then...
Mrs. Kennedy: If that is your motion, I will second it.
Mr. Plummer: Wait a minute.
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Mr. Dawkins: Wait, wait, let me make my vote. I vote that it stay like it
Is.
Mayor Suarers We have a motion to accept the recommendations...
Mr. Dawkins: Recommendation of 54.
Mayor Suarers We have one motion without a second and another substitute
motion without a second. Do we have a second on the substitute motion?
Mr. Plummer: I didn't hear the substitute.
Mr. Dawkins: The substitute motion is that we give Miami United 4100,000.
Mr. Plummer: Right.
Mrs. Kennedy: Yes, and the $20,000 to M.M.A.P.
Mayor Suarez: Seconded.
Mr. Carollo: And that we give $80,000...
Mr. Plummer: OK, let's do it in two parts.
Mayor Suarez: Seconded, substitute motion.
Mr. Carollo: OK, I make a motion that we give an extra $20,000 to...
Mr. Plummer: Wait a minute, Joe, do it in two parts, because Miller wants to
vote against the second part.
Mayor Suarez: Yes, I seconded the motion. I seconded the motion.
Mr. Plummer: So, your first motion would be give Miami United the $100,000.
Mr. Carollo: Now, my first motion...
Mr. Plummer: I seconded it.
Mr. Carollo: ... is to give 420,000 to M.M.A.P.
Mr. Plummer: That will be the second motion, because Miller wants to vote
against that one.
Mayor Suarez: OK, we have a second on his motion, then, OK. For lack of any
other motion, call the roll on that. That is 4100,000 for Greater Miami
United.
Mr. Plummer: As recommended.
Mr. Dawkins: As recommended.
Mr. Plummer: Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Caro]
mowed its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 87-565
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE
AN AGREBIi NT IN A FORM ACCEPTABLE TO THE CITY
ATTORNEY, WITH GREATER MIAMI UNITED, INC. IN AN AMOUNT
NOT TO EXCEED $100,000, FOR THE PURPOSE OF PROVIDING
SPECIALIZED ADMINISTRATIVE AND TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE TO
CITMDE COMMITY BASED ORGANIZATIONS INVOLVED IN
ECONOMIC D$i/BLOPlBNT PROJECTS, WITH SAID FUNDS
THEREFOR ALLOCATED FROM THE THIRTEENTH YEAR COlII4[JNITY
18VELOPHUT BLOCK GRANT FOND, SDBJECT TO THE
AVAILABILITY OF YUNDS.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
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Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote-
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOESs None.
ABSENT: None.
Mr. Carollo: Second motion, $20,000...
Mr. Plummer: The second $23,000...
Mr. Carollos Yes, additional dollars to M.A.P.P., $23,000.
Mr. Plummer: And I second it.
Mayor Suarez: So moved and seconded. Any discussion, call the roll.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Carollo, who moved
its adoption:
MOTION NO. 87-566
A MOTION AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO
ALLOCATE AN ADDITIONAL AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $23,000 TO
MIAMI METRO ACTION PLAN.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
SO. EMERGENCY ORDINANCE: NEW SPECIAL REVENUE FUND: COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT
BLOCK GRANT 13TH YEAR, AND APPROPRIATING FUNDS FOR THE SAME.
Mayor Suarez: Agenda item 47 is the collective item, right, Frank?
Mr. Castaneda: OK, let's go back and...
Mr. Plummer: So, we now move 47 for the total, is that correct?
Mr. Castaneda: 47, right.
Mr. Plummer: I so move 47 as amended.
Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded.
Mr. Plummer: Read the ordinance.
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AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN EMERGENCY ORDINANCE ESTABLISHING A NEW SPECIAL
REVENUE FUND ENTITLED: "COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK
GRANT (THIRTEENTH YEAR)," AND APPROPRIATING
$11,940,000 FOR EXECUTION OF SAME; AND ALSO
APPROPRIATING THE SUM OF $625,000 FROM THIRTEENTH YEAR
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT (CDBG) PROGRAM
INCOME AS APPROVED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND
URBAN DEVELOPMENT (HUD) FOR A TOTAL OF $12,565,000;
CONTAINING A REPEALER PROVISION AND A SEVERABILITY
CLAUSE.
Was introduced by Commissioner Plummer and seconded by Commissioner
Kennedy, for adoption as an emergency measure and dispensing with the
requirement of reading same on two separate days, which was agreed to by the
following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
Whereupon the Commission on motion of Commissioner Plummer and seconded
by Commissioner Kennedy, adopted said ordinance by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
SAID ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO. 10287_
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and
announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commission and
to the public.
51. AUTHORIZE SUBMITTAL OF AN AMENDMENT TO THE APPROVED GRANT PROGRAM FINAL
STATEMENT TO THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT
REQUESTING FUNDS IN THE AMOUNT OF $11,940,000 FOR THS 1987-88 COMMUNITY
DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM.
Mr. Castaneda: Now, wait a second. Now, on 50 is permitting you to amend...
permitting the Manager to amend the application, after what was discussed
today.
Mr. Plummer: So moved.
Mayor Suarez: I'll entertain a notion on 50.
Mr. Carollo: Hold on, hold on. Let's slow it down, so we can see what the
heck we are voting on here. All right. r
Mayor Suaraz: This to an amendment to our prior grant application from H.O.D.
In accordance with what we have done today, right? It to not a major
amendment.
Mrs. Keaasdy: To submit it to H.U.D., right?
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Mr. Castaneda: Right, this is just to amend the application that you
submitted two weeks ago.
Mr. Plummer: As we say we passed it originally, it is not locked in stone,
this is how it is amended.
Mayor Suarez: OK, we have a motion and a second?
Mrs. Kennedy: Move it.
Mr. Plummer: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Seconded. Any discussion, Commissioner Carollo? Call the
roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Kennedy, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 87-567
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO SUBMIT AN
AMENDMENT TO THE APPROVED GRANT PROGRAM FINAL
STATEMENT TO THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND URBAN
DEVELOPMENT (HUD) REQUESTING FUNDS IN THE AMOUNT OF
$11,940,000 FOR THE CITY'S PROPOSED COMMUNITY
DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM DURING 1987-88; FURTHER
AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER, UPON APPROVAL OF SAID
AMENDMENT BY HUD, TO ACCEPT THE SAME AND NEGOTIATE THE
NECESSARY IMPLEMENTING CONTRACTS AND AGREEMENTS TO
IMPLEMENT THE PROGRAM, SUBJECT TO APPLICABLE CITY CODE
PROVISIONS.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
Mayor Suarez: Vice Mayor Plummer has to leave. You want any items
considered?
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, may I, on behalf of this Commission, may to the
Community Development, it is never easy, but for some reason, this year, you
guys did a tremendous job of getting us through a damn difficult situation,
and I want to applaud you for it. You really didl My colleagues don't agree,
but that is all rightl
Mayor Suarez: Symbolic applause! Let the record reflect the place came down.
Mrs. Kennedy: No used my formula of last year, I am delighted.
Mr. Plummer; That's all right, guys, wait until you go knocking on his door)
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S2. A ALLOCATE ADDITIONAL $2S0,000 TO LIBERTY CITY POLICE SUBSTATION.
B RECONSIDER ALLOCATION OF $2S0,000 TO LIBERTY CITY POLICE SUBSTATION.
C REAFFIRM ALLOCATION OF ADDITIONAL $250,000 TO LIBERTY CITY POLICE
SUBSTATION.
D ALLOCATE ADDITIONAL $250,000 TO LITTLE HAVANA SUBSTATION.
Mr. Carollo: I have a real brief pocket item that I need to bring up before
you go.
Mayor Suarez: Commissioner Carollo.
dr. Plummer: Well, I want to do La Liga of Cancer before I leave.
Mr. Carollo: Well, we will do that one too. This is real brief.
INAUDIBLE BACKGROUND COMMENTS NOT ENTERED INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD.
Mr. Plummer: He's got a pocket.
Mayor Suarez: Commissioner Carollo.
Mr. Carollo: OK, I want to bring an amendment to the appropriations ordinance
for the funds for the two substations, and this amendment to the
appropriations ordinance...
Mr. Plummer: Cesar, you had better be listening.
Mr. Carollo: ... would increase the funding from the old project and increase
the new project with the funds that we have made in interest. Now, it is my
understanding that we have approximately $1,000,000 interest that we made. We
are approximately $250,000 short for the final funding for the police
substation in Liberty City, and what I am suggesting is, that we take $250,000
approximately, or if we need to finish the substation in Liberty City from the
Interest that we have made on this money so far.
Mr. Plummer: Joe, let me tell you, I've got a problem with that and first,
let me tell you my problem is the people of this community spoke to that issue
and they said $10,000,000 for both substations.
Mr. Carollo: Well, we are looking at the interest that we have made on that
money.
Mr. Plums:er: OK, Joe, let me tell you, I might go along with that at a later
time, but I think that we need to keep these bidders feet to the fire. We
told them $5,000,000. If we give in and increase it by $500,000 on each
substation, you know damn well they are going eat it up. Nov, second of all,
the !tanager and the Chief both have expressed unbelievable terminology that
the monies are going to be critical to operate these substations, and I would
much rather see a little less luxury in bricks and mortar and a little bit
more luxury in being able to operate them. We are looking at, possibly, as I
recall, about $6,000,000 increased cost in operating...
INAUDIBLE BACKGROOND COATS NOT ENTERED INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD.
Mr. Plummer: Dive? Well, OK, whatever it is, Joe, I just really, you know,
If we get the other bids, when the bids come back in, and they are again
overbidding, I would then reconsider.
Mr. Carollo: J.L., I agree, but the bottom line is, that in Liberty City, we
are not going to be able to finish that unless we come up with some additional
$2500000 score.
Mayor Suarez: Haw close are we, John, as a matter of fact?
Mr. Plummer: Look, I disagree, Joe, to this point, and I disagree...
Mayor Suarez: Let,s find out because we are talking about a hypothetical
figure of $250,000. Aren't we closer to that now? �!
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Mr. Gilchrist: We are close to $250,000. I wasn't prepared today to...
because they weren't committed to it, but they are trying to get... we are
somewhere between $200,000 and $250,000 over.
Mr. Plummer: And let me tell you, if you keep working, you are going to get
It under the five.
Mr. Gilchrist: That's what I am working to, sir.
Mr. Dawkins: Well, let me ask a question. Let me ask a question.
Mr. Plummer: OK? Nov, that's what I am trying to tell you, that if you go
through that thing with a fine tooth comb, you are going to cut out some of
the luxuries, which are really not needed in the first place. We started
cutting out a gym that we never knew that was in there. We cut out a lot of
things that were not in there, and Joe, like I say, the day might come that I
would vote with that motion, but I want to hold these people feet to the fire
and the contractor, and let them keep cutting.
Mr. Carollo: Well, J.L., with the Liberty City substation, we are at the
point that if we don't appropriate some additional monies, it is not going to
be built anytime soon.
Mr. Dawkins: Madam City Attorney, the interest earned... I mean, we got a
410,000,000 fund to build two stations. If it earned $1,000,000, then doesn't
that give us $5,500,000 for each station?
Mrs. Dougherty: You could use the $5,500,000 for each station.
Mr. Dawkins: All right now, if the voters said, and I specifically put on the
ballot $5,000,000 per station, no more and no less...
Mr. Plummer: That's right.
Mr. Dawkins: And if you spend more than $5,000,000, what are you doing?
Mr. Plummer: You broke faith with the voters.
Mrs. Dougherty: My recollection is that the ballot did not have language like
that in it. It didn't break it down...
Mr. Plummer: I went out and worked and...
Mr. Dawkins: The ballot did not, but after it passed, I put that into the
resolution.
Mrs. Dougherty: OK, you are right, and in that case, the interest money could
be spent any way you want to. You could put it back in the General Fund. You
could put it in the substations.
Mr. Plummer: I would ask my colleague to hold that until we get the rebidding
done. We...
Mr. Carollo: Well...
Mr. Gilchrist: We are negotiating, not rebidding.
Mayor Suarez: The what?... the rebidding?
Mr. Plummer: Hey, if you can't get it renegotiated, we...
Mr. Gilchrist: No, not rebidding= that was a mistake.
Mayor Suaraz: No, no, I will go with it right now, if you are talking about
rebidding.
Mr. Dawkins: It is not rebid.
Mr. Plummer: No, no, we are trying to get it down.
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Mr. Carollo: My motion stands that we go along with up to $950,000 from the
money earned in interest, so they can go to finish the police substation in
Liberty City.
Mr. Dawkins: Hold up just a minute. Will somebody in my office bring me
those renderings, please?
Mr. Plummer: We'll show you some renderings that I saw this morning that will
bring it in...
Mayor Suarez: Let me say something in support... let me say something while
we do that in support of the motion.
Mr. Plummer: Hey, those renderings this morning will bring it in at the
$5,000,000 figure.
Mayor Suarez: OK, if he can get it in at $5,000,000, or a little bit less or
right around $5,000,000, I'd be very happy, but the concept that property,
which was purchased and which we started working, how many years ago was it
the bonds were passed?
Mr. Carollo: A long time ago.
Mayor Suarez: And in the meantime...
Mr. Dawkins: Tell them to bring me those renderings.
Mayor Suarez: In the meantime, the money made interest, it compensates for
the fact that it now costs more to build. I think it is an eminently good
idea to use some of that interest if we have to. On the other hand, I also
think it is great to hold their feet to the fire if we can.
Mr. Plummer: Exactly.
Mayor Suarez: So...
Mr. Carollo: Well, we have been doing that long enough. We have to do
something now.
Mayor Suarez: We have been doing that for... I don't know, with the feet on
the fire right now. When are we... I thought we were going to decide as of
today, on the llth?
Mr. Gilchrist: The contractor who is the principal in working on this with us
is in Atlanta today. He said he is going to meet with me tomorrow and we are
close to 4200,000 to $250,000 over.
Mayor Suarez: That took out all the inter governmental transfers and all
that?
Mr. Gilchrist: As of today, I can only tell you we're four hundred thousand
over; we have not committed to the next step.
Mr. Dawkins: OK - let me show you - let me show you something here, OK?
Mayor Suarez: I'll go with it. If not today, the next time.
Mr. Dawkins: Now, here's a rendering that we had people do when we first
started. That's the rendering. This guy did it and told us because we had 5
million, this station was designed to come in at 4.5 million dollars knowing
that the cost of construction would go up. Here's the parking that did not
require any upstairs parking. Here's the second floor of the police station,
OK? And here's the floor plan of the police station. And all of this was at
4.5 million dollars. Then you went and gave it to another guy, this
commission did, and this guy brings it in at 5 point some million dollars and
If you go through the records, you will constantly see where he was told
that
he could not bring the station in over five million dollars.
And now, I
agree
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with Joe, the public wants the station. They're bringing
us down, but
when
you get this peak - I mean, and I'm going to put it in the
records, when you
break the nut here, and give these people two hundred thousand dollars,
what
are you going to give Little Havana to finish their station?
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Mr. Plummer: more importantly, how are you going to...
Mr. Dawkins: All right then to - and they have a perfect right to come in
here and ask you for whatever it takes to finish their station because that's
what you're doing in Liberty City.
Mr. Carollo: We're going to have to...
Mr. Dawkins: Giving them what it requires to finish their station.
Mr. Carollo: We're going to have to spend there also whatever is required...
Mr. Dawkins: That's right.
Mr. Carollo: ... to finish that station.
Mr. Plummer: I - see I, Joe, I just don't agree with that. I think there is
right now just still too much luxury built into it. And I think that they way
they have... how such have you cut off already?
Mr. Gilchrist: We've cut off five hundred thousand dollars.
Mr. Plummer: Five hundred thousand dollars without even trying.
Mr. Gilchrist: And, commissioner, I know that we're going to get another two
hundred thousand off tomorrow, so we're down...
Mr. Plummer: Exactly, but, if you...
Mr. Gilchrist: But...
Mr. Plummer: If you let that guy know tonight that he's going to... there's
another five hundred thousand dollars to play with...
Mr. Gilchrist: No.
Mr. Plummer: ... you're not going to get ten cents off tomorrow.
Mr. Gilchrist: If I - what I understand is...
Mr. Carollo: Nope, nope, you don't have no five hundred thousand dollars to
play with.
Mr. Plummer: Well, two hundred and fifty. If you've got any more...
Mr. Carollo: It's going to be - it's going to be either he takes this or
that's it. You said, John, there's four hundred thousand dollars right now
over.
Mr. Gilchrist: We're - we're right now at five million, four hundred thousand
and I've been in conversation with these long distance about an additional
change which is going to save two hundred to two hundred and fifty thousand.
I can't tell you what that is until - I have - I've got independent estimators
working for me and estimators for them. So, therefore...
Mr. Plummer: Joe, hold it till the next meeting.
Mr. Carollo: J.L., I think we need to go.
Mr. Gilchrist: ... I'm - I'm down to two hundred thousand over.
Mr. Plummer: I can't vote for it.
Mr. Carollo: See, what, ghat John is telling us is about four hundred
thousand dollars there. So if he cuts there, this guy that takes that and
brings it down from four hundred thousand to two hundred or two hundred and
fifty thousand, or, you know, we...
Mr. Plummer: aey. make your notion. I just can't vote for it.
Mr. Carollo: Well - I understand that.
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Mr. Plummers I just am petrified of that sit: trillion operating cost. it's
going to be devastating.
Mrs. Kennedys That's going to be a white elephant. That's what I'm worried
about.
Mr. Carollos Well, if you think that it's going to be devastating, how in the
hell are you going to make any difference in putting another two hundred and
fifty thousand?
Mr. Plummer: The million dollars is where I'm looking at, Joe. Because you
know what happens in city projects, they always have an overrun. Just as we
are right now. Hey, make your motion, I...
Mr. Carollos Well my motion stands.
Mr. Gilchrist: By the way, commissioner, you should understand...
Mayor Suarez: I second the motion. I know from what I hear that's it going
to lose and maybe it's just as well because the negotiating posture of the
city would be...
Mr. Plummer: Do you want me to wait?
Mayor Suarez: ... somewhat weakened if we passed that and gave you authority
to go up another, what is it, two hundred and fifty thousand dollars? But,
I'm going to second it in principle. I mean, if it doesn't - if you can
negotiate all the way down, maybe we'd get the third vote, maybe we won't.
So, right now, he doesn't know, which is one of the problems in negotiating in
the sunshine here, Carlos, we're really giving away our negotiating posture
but I know what the commissioner means when he says that we really should
spend that interest or whatever to get that substation.
Mr. Carollo: Well, we're not really doing that because what we're saying is,
there's four hundred thousand dollars over now. We're going to give them
approximately half of that. And that's it, no more. So he's going to have to
come down also.
Mayor Suarez: Well, we could...
Mr. Carollo: What we're doing is compromising with him.
Mayor Suarez: We could say that we're giving you authority up to five two and
I would go along with that motion, which is roughly the same motion.
Mr. Plummer: May I ask a question, under discussion? When you say five two,
is that construction cost?
Mr. Gilchrist: No, sir.
Mr. Plummer: Is that total?
Mr. Gilchrist: That's total.
Mr. Plummer: OK, thank you.
Mr. Gilchrist: And I have two hundred and fifty thousand in there for
contingency which I've been refused - I've refused to take out.
Mr. Plummer: Fine. Thank you. Any further discussion? Call the roll.
Mr. Dawkins (off mike): What is it? What is it? What's the motion?
Mr. Plummer: The motion In, In to grant two hundred and fifty thousand
more...
Mr. Carollos Up to.
Mr. Plummer: Up to - not to exceed two hundred and fifty thousand for Liberty
City substation.
Mr. Dawkins: out of the four hundred thousand?
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Mr. Plummer: Yes, sir.
Mr. Dawkins: OK, I got a second motion.
Mr. Carollo: OK.
Mr. Plummers All right, call the roil please.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Carollo, who moved
Its adoption:
MOTION NO. 87-568
A MOTION AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO
ALLOCATE AN ADDITIONAL AMOUNT OF $250,000 FROM THE
INTEREST EARNED ON THE POLICE FACILITIES BONDS TO THE
PROPOSED SUBSTATION TO BE CONSTRUCTED IN LIBERTY CITY.
Upon being seconded by Mayor Suarez, the motion was passed and adopted
by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
ABSENT: NONE
DURING ROLL CALL:
Mr. Foeman: Mayor Suarez.
Mr. Carollo: He voted yes.
Mr. Dawkins (off mike): I got a second one now... That's right, you all want
to play games, I'm going to help you. Go ahead.
Mr. Carollo: Boy, I'll tell you.
Mr. Dawkins (off mike): ... play games...
Mr. Carollo: Well, why don't you pass X here and go to the other two. While
he thinks about it.
Mayor Suarez: No, I'll vote yes - I'll vote yes but you understand that if
you can negotiate him down further I'll be even happier.
Mr. Carollo: Well.
Mr. Dawkins: Who else?
Mr. Plummer: Continue the roll call. i
Mr. Foeman: Mrs. Kennedy. Continuing the roll call, Mrs. Kennedy.
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Mr. Carollo: I'm glad that we learned something in Harvard.
Mr. Plummer: Continue the roll call.
Mr. Foeman: Continuing the roll call, Mrs. Kennedy. !
Mr. Plummer: Mrs. Kennedy. Mrs. Kennedy.
Mrs. Kennedy: I'm going to - I'm going to vote for it. Excuse me a second.
Mr. Plummer: Is that yes? Is that a you vote?
Mrs. Kennedy: It is a yes vote but hold on a second. 3
Mayor Suarez: It's a yes, but bold.
Mr. Pluer: A yes vote but - yes, but hold.
Mr. Carollo: Well, are we going to pass, rub, or punt?
Mrs. Kennedy: No, I was just talking to the manager and -----
Mr. Odlo: No, no, she had - she had a technical question.
Mrs. Kennedy: I don't want to impede the construction of the substations so
I'm going to vote yes.
Mr. Plummer: I vote no. It was very clear to the public. They voted on five
million each and that's the way I feel.
Mr. Dawkins: All right, I vote - I make a motion that any of the excess four
million dollars - four hundred thousand dollars be given to the Little Havana
station since it...
Mr. Carollo: Well...
Mr. Dawkins: ... too is running deficit...
Mr. Carollo: Well...
Mr. Dawkins: ... and it too, needs money to complete it.
Mr. Carollo: Can we do the following before we do that. Hiller...
Mr. Dawkins: Ah well, wait now, wait now - I want to see if I get a second.
Mayor Suarez: So moved.
Mr. Carollo: Fine - you have a second on that, but...
Mr. Dawkins: You second?
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Mr. Carollo: ... it's actually more than that.
Mayor Suarez: Well, I'll second it for discussion.
Mr. Carollo: Let - let me explain to you what the problem is and before I can
explain it to you, I got to get the administration to explain it to us.
Gentlemen, we said there was a million dollars there. Where is all that money
at?
Mr. Gilchrist: I - let we try to explain what - there were two numbers given,
the million, it's a little over a million, a little over four. The reason is
because on the ten million dollar bond issue there's four point something -
let's say four point five; four hundred and fifty thousand dollars available.
But on all the police bond funds that are now sitting, not being used but
allocated to be used, there's slightly over one million.
Mr. Carollo: Right.
Mr. Gilchrist: So - on the - on the police station itself, there's only four
point...
Mayor Suarez: On the ten...
Mr. Gilchrist: Your hundred and fifty thousand.
Mayor Suarez: On the ten million dollars voted by the voters, there's four
hundred fifty, OK.
Mr.
Gilchrist:
your hundred and fifty thousand.
Mr.
Dawkins:
OK, I slats a motion that...
Ms.
Carollo:
OK, but - no, no, the voters voted upon twenty million.
Ms.
011t wrist:
Tex, sir. And out of that twenty million...
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Mr. Dawkinss But only ten...
Mr. Carollo: Out of which we're going to use ten for the substations.
Mr. Gilchrist: Yes.
Mr. Carollo: So, on the twenty million that the voters voted upon, four
police facilities are police used. It's over a million.
Mr. Gilchrist: That's right.
Mr. Carollo: Where's all that interest money sitting at?
Mr. Gilchrists It's sitting in the bank, air.
Mr. Carollo: Has any of that been spent to use at all on anything else?
Mr. Dawkins: I make a motion that all the interest that was earned on that
bond issue go to the Liberty City police station.
Mr. Plummer: Liberty City or Little Havana?
Mrs. Kennedy: Little Havana.
Mr. Dawkinss No, no, the - Little Havana.
Mr. Plummer: All right, it's a motion made...
Mr. Carollo: Excuse me.
Mr. Plummer: ... by Dawkins and seconded by the Mayor...
Mr. Carollo: Excuse me.
Mr. Plummer: Discussion.
Mr. Carollo: Time out.
Mayor Suarez: I - no, I take back my second. I though he meant just an equal
amount and I...
Mr. Carollo: OK, now...
Mr. Dawkins: No, no, no, no. I mean no.
Mr. Carollo: There - that full amount of interest money is sitting in the
bank. Nothing has been used anywhere else, right guys? Nothing's been used
anywhere else?
Mr. Odio: I'll have to ask Carlos Garcia. I haven't - they haven't
requested...
Mr. Carollo: OK, let's see if Carlos Garcia is here.
Mr. Dawkinss OK.
Mr. Plummer: Can we go to La Liga Cancer, Joe, because I've got to...
Mr. Carollo: Well, we'll do it in just one minute.
Mr. Dawkins: No, no, I'm going to do better than that, J.L.
Mr. Carollo: Jun - just one minute, I need to find out the answer for this.
Mr. Dawkins: Just a minute. Since I can't get all the money donated to the
Liberty - to the Little Havana station, then I would like to vote to
reconsider the first motion so I could change my vote.
Mayor Suarez: So moved.
Mr. Plumaser: Second.
Mayor Suarers Seconded. Call...
Mr. Carollo: Well, we haven't even voted upon that yet.
Mr. Dawkinss OK, call the roll.
Mr. Carollos We haven't voted upon that.
Mr. Dawkinas I'll call the question.
Mayor Suarez: Call the roll on the motion to reconsider.
Mr. Carollos We haven't voted upon that.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Dawkins, who moved
Its adoption:
MOTION NO. 87-569
A MOTION TO RECONSIDER PREVIOUSLY PASSED MOTION NO.
87-568 IN CONNECTION WITH ADDITIONAL ALLOCATION IN THE
AMOUNT OF $250,000 TO THE PROPOSED SUBSTATION AT THE
LIBERTY CITY SITE.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
Mr. Dawkins: OK, now, I make a motion that we keep the present spending as
designated by the voters. That we spend five million dollars only on each
substation. No more or no less.
Mr. Plummer: Second.
Mr. Carollo: Excuse me, excuse me. Now, this second merry-go-round, we just
approved two motions...
Mr. Plummer: Well, excuse me, that - that motion is really not necessary
because that is the posture at this] we've told them that fourteen times. We
told the voters that, so that motion really is not necessary. No action
leaves it at that policy where we've been.
Mr. Carollo: No - we just, we just approved to increase the funding if need
be, up to two hundred and fifty thousand...
Mr. Dawkins: But, I voted to reconsider and change my vote.
Mr. Plummer: That we reconsidered and that motion is now moved.
Mr. Carollo: What motion is now moved?
Mrs. Kennedy: So, there's no action taken than.
Mr. Plummer: The first motion that you made. We reconsidered it.
Mr. Carollo: No.
Mr. Dawkins: Yes, we did.
Mr. Carollo: What we voted upon was to approve additional funds to the Little
Havana substation. ;
Mr. Dawkins: No, no.
Mr. Plummers Oh, I'm sorry, then you've got to make your motion to keep it at
the five each. Yes, I'm sorry, he's right.
Mr. Dawkins: All right. OK, I did.
Mr. Plummers OK, and I seconded it.
Mayor Suarers No, no, that was my understanding what we voted on.
Mr. Plummer: I second it.
Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded to reconsider.
Mr. Carollo: Guys, look, you know...
Mr. Dawkins: Come on.
Mr. Carollos If - you know, if we want to do one or the other...
Mr. Dawkins: Call the roll.
Mr. Carollo: ... then why do we, no, I'm still asking a question.
Mr. Odio: Commissioner, I'll have to give you an answer tomorrow. Carlos
Garcia, unfortunately, is not here now and...
Mr. Carollo: Why is he not here?
Mr. Odio: Because he had no more items left on the agenda and I did not
expect that answer - that question from...
Mr. Carollo: No one in the administration knows if all the million plus
dollars in interest is in the account, eh?
Mr. Odio: Well, I think you know, but I don't know, I, I...
Mayor Suarez: Can we be assured that none of that interest money was used in
any way for Bayfront Park improvements?
Mr. Odio: Well, that...
Mr. Gilchrist: You cannot be assured that, sir.
Mr. Odio: I cannot be assured.
Mayor Suarez: We cannot - wait, wait, wait.
Mr. Plummer: Or Virginia Key.
Mr. Odlo: I cannot be assured of that because...
Mrs. Kennedy: Or the inner city parks.
Mayor Suarez: How can we not be assured of that?
Mr. Odio: Well.
Mr. Carollo: Well, well...
Mr. Odio: That's why I want a report from finance.
Mrs. Kennedy: Why don't we wait until Carlos is asked.
Hr. Gilchrist: I think we have to bear that from the finance director, sir.
!lsyor Suarez: I thought the finance director made decisions on how to best
`et interest out of our deposits.
Hr. Odios OK, wait a minute, call...
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Mr. Gilchrists We'll call him at, we'll...
Mr. Carollos Wait a minute, I think we're - we're throwing the monkey in
somebody's back here.
Mr. Plummer: All right, call the roll.
Mr. Dawkinss Call the roll.
Mr. Foeman: Roll call.
Mayor Suarez: I hear from somewhere, that's it's been found, but I - I- think
that...
Mr. Gilchrists We're calling his home to try to get him.
Mayor Suarez: Yes.
Mr. Carollo: Excuse me, was this...
Mr. Foeman: The motion for reconsideration.
Mr. Carollo: Yes, was this motion on the agenda?
Mayor Suarers Who did?
Mr. Foeman: What? To reconsider?
Mr. Carollo: To reconsider. -
Mayor Suarez: OK, maybe it wasn't used for - maybe it wasn't used for
Bayfront Park.
Mr. Dawkins: No - because the...
Mr. Carollo: Yes, your motion to reconsider. Was this placed on the agenda?
Mr. Dawkins: No, but, the first...
Mr. Carollo: Excuse me, I call the five day rule.
Mayor Suarez: No, no, that doesn't apply. Doesn't apply.
Mr. Plummer: All right. Wait, whoa, whoa, whoa. I call the five day rule on
the first one.
Mr. Carollo: It's too late, we passed it.
Mr. Dawkins: ...... on you, I called the rule on you, on you, because you're
the one that started it.
Mr. Plummer: Matter of fact, if Miller and I'd do it, it's ten days.
Mr. Carollo: It's too late. No, it's too late. We passed that. I call the
five day rule.
Mr. Dawkinss .... no, we didn't. You can't call the rule.
Mayor Suarez: Madam City Attorney.
Mr. Dawkins: Madam City Attorney.
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Mr. Carollo: I call the five day rule. _:
Mayor Suarez: I thought we decided by ordinance that a motion to reconsider
lies anytime within one meeting, I think. ,
Mr. Carollo: No - I call the five day rule now.
Mayor Suarers I think so, commissioner. t;
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Ms. Dougherty:
It doesn't apply. The five day rule doesn't apply
in this
instance.
Mayor Suarez:
But - but it still may come out the same way.
Mr. Carollo:
Wait a minute - wait a minute.
Mayor Suarez:
Make your motion again.
Mr. Plummer:
Joe, if you want to get to La Liga, I got to go.
Mr. Carollo:
You're telling me that even though this part is not
on the
agenda now, to
reconsider...
Ms. Dougherty:
None of it's on the agenda.
Mr. Carollo:
Excuse me?
Me. Dougherty:
None of it's on the agenda.
Mr. Carollo:
Yes, but we took care of the other part.
Ms. Dougherty:
The first...
Mr. Carollo:
It's after the fact.
Mr. Plummer:
You can't put what on and what off you want.
Mr. Carollo:
It's after the fact.
Mr. Dawkins:
No.
Mayor Suarez:
A motion to reconsider always lies, I'm pretty sure.
Mr. Carollo:
Yes, well...
Mayor Suarez:
Go ahead and make your motion again.
Mr. Carollo:
You made a motion right, to reconsider? And we haven't
upon it.
Mayor Suarez:
Yes, we did.
Mr. Dawkins:
Yes, yes.
Mr. Plummer:
Yes, that we did.
Mayor Suarez:
Make your motion again on the initial, I'll second it.
Mr. Carollo:
OK, well, again...
Mr. Dawkins:
Hot dog, we got the Mayor and Joe Carollo on the same
side. I
knew it would
happen. I knew it would happen. Boy, campaigning will
make you
do funny things when you're running. When you're running, you do some funny
things.
Mrs. Kennedy:
Wowl And as a second) Where's the city photographer?
Mr. Carollo:
The motion again...
Mayor Suarez:
Call the roll. We have a motion?
Mr. Plummer: The motion on the floor is that of Dawkins to keep it at the
five million.
Mr. Carollo: To reconsider.
Mr. Plummer: No, no, the reconsider has already passed.
Mayor Suarez: No, no, we voted on that.
Mr, Yooman: That was already passed.
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Mr. Carollo: No.
Mr. Plummer: Yes, sir.
Mr. Dawkins: Tex, you did.
Mrs. Kennedy: Yes.
Mr. Carollo: No.
Mr. Plummer: Yes.
Mrs. Kennedy: Yes, you voted for it.
Mr. Carollo: No, wait, wait, wait a minute.
Mr. Plummer: The notion of Dawkins is the five million dollars and I second
It.
Mayor Suarez: Let's take it - do you want to take it one more time?
Mr. Carollo: My understanding was that that second motion was not to
reconsider but to give the addition of monies to Little Havana.
Mayor Suarez: OK...
Mr. Dawkins: No - now we voted to reconsider.
Mrs. Kennedy: No, that was to reconsider.
Mayor Suarez: Let's do it again if you want. It's going to - it's going to
pass, commissioner. Motion to reconsider. Ve are reconsidering.
Mr. Plummer: That's where we are.
Mrs. Kennedy: And you voted for it.
Mayor Suarez: Make your motion again.
Mr. Plummer: And Miller already Bade...
Mr. Carollo: OK, my motion again is to...
Mr. Dawkins: Is this a substitute notion or my motion?
Mr. Carollo: A substitute notion to whatever substitute motion we might have
on the substitution.
Mr. Dawkins: OK.
Mr. Carollo: Two hundred and fifty dollars.
Mr. Dawkins: Fifty thousand, that's
Mrs. Kennedy: Thousand.
Mr. Plummer: Shhhhh. I was going to vote for you.
Mr. Carollo: Two hundred and fifty dollars - see, I got their attention now.
I got their attention. Two hundred and fifty thousand dollars from the
Interest earned allocated to finish the Liberty City substation.
Mr. Plummer: This - is there a second? Vho seconded it?
Mayor Suarez: So moved, I second.
Mr. Plummer: OK. The substitute motion will be the first vote. Is the
Motion understood as substitute? Call the roll.
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The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Carollo, who moved
its adoption:
MOTION NO. 87-570
A MOTION REAFFIRMING PREVIOUSLY PASSED MOTION 87-568,
WHICH HAD ALLOCATED AN ADDITIONAL AMOUNT OF $250,000 FROM
THE INTEREST EARNED ON THE POLICE FACILITIES BONDS TO THE
PROPOSED SUBSTATION TO BE CONSTRUCTED IN LIBERTY CITY;
FURTHER STIPULATING THAT SAID MONIES ARE TO BE THE FINAL
ALLOCATION FOR THE PURPOSE OF COMPLETING THE PROJECT.
Upon being seconded by Mayor Suarez, the motion was passed and adopted
by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
ABSENT: None
Mr. Plummer: The substitute motion passes. The original motion fails.
Mr. Carollo: OK, now, my second motion is that we allocate up to an equal
amount, in other words, another two hundred and fifty thousand dollars from
the interest earned, to the substation in Little Havana.
Mayor Suarez: When you say allocated, would you accept a modification to make
that not aside as opposed to allocate because we're not - no where near as
advanced...
Mr. Carollo: We're saying the same thing - to allocate, set aside. We're not
saying to spend it, you know, we're saying to be there in reserve if we need
Lt.
Mayor Suarez: Let me clarify one point, then, maybe I'll second it. Madam
City Attorney, when those bids go out for the Little Havana substation, will
we give an estimate of the construction?
Mr. Carollo: Yes.
Ms. Dougherty: Yes.
Mr. Gilchrist: Yes.
Mayor Suarez: If this motion passes, does that extra two hundred and fifty
thousand dollars get tacked to that estimate?
Mr. Carollo: No.
Ms. Dougherty: No, the estimate is based on the construction price.
Mr. Carollo: No. Exactly, of course.
Mayor Suarez: All right. So then allocated is the same as not aside.
Mr. Carollo: Yes.
Mayor Suarez: And, I'll second your motion.
Mr. Plummer: Motion understood? Call the roll.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Carollo, who moved
its adoption:
MOTION NO. 87-571
A !LOTION AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO
ALLOCATE OR SET ASIDE AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $250,000
FROM INTEREST EARNED ON THE POLICE FACILITIES BONDS TO THE
PROPOSED SUBSTATION TO BE CONSTRUCTED IN LITTLE HAVANA.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Suarez, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote-
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AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
ABSENT: None
DURING ROLL CALL:
Mr. Plummer: I will stay consistent. I will vote no in interest to fairness
to both and, more no, in interest to the taxpayers who we made a pledge.
Mr. Carollo: OK, now, we still have five hundred thousand dollars
approximately left in interest there.
Mr. Plummer: Maybe, I don't know.
Mr. Carollo: What...
Mr. Odio: I'd like to check that out, commissioner, because...
Mr. Carollo: Well, that's if it hasn't been used at - somewhere else.
Mr. Odio: No, I - no, no, I believe if it's - let me, point this out, if it
has been used...
Mr. Carollo: Let me make my motion, and if it's been used...
Mr. Odio: ... it came through the commission.
Mr. Carollo: ... then we could bring it back.
Mr. Odio: No, but it came through the commission because we cannot just
use...
Mr. Gilchrist: Sir. Commissioner.
Mr. Carollo: Yes - well, maybe; maybe not.
Mr. Gilchrist: I checked with Carlos Garcia just before he left presumably; I
didn't know he was leaving.
Mr. Carollo: I figured he would leave real quick.
Mr. Gilchrist: Around five thirty. He told me that in the account sitting
there, unused at this point, was slightly over a million dollars in interest.
Mr. Carollo: OK. Vell
Mr. Gilchrist: On the ten million, was slightly over four hundred thousand.
Mr. Carollo: All right, then my motion is that whatever amount of interest is
left, past the five hundred thousand that we approved. In other words,
slightly over five hundred thousand dollars, that that money be allocated for
park and police facilities at Virginia Key, where we need it desperately.
Mr. Odio: $ut, Commissioner, may I say something before - I'd rather check
out,.. if•the money... it might be...
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Mr. Carollo: if it's not there, it's not there. Then, you know, this is
mute.
Mr. Odio: No, no. No, no. The money might be in the bank, but it might have
been appropriated already for something else.
Mr. Carollo: hell, you know, it's funny...
Mr. Odio: And - it - I...
Mr. Carollo: You know, either it's the bank or it's not, you know, it's like
the...
Mr. Odio: No, no, no, no, no. The money can be in the bank...
Mr. Carollo: ... Iran Contra monies, you know, nobody knows where it's at.
Mr. Odio: No, no, no, no, commissioner. If the...
Mr. Carollo: You know, either we have it or we don't have it.
Mr. Odio: The money...
Mr. Carollo: You know now...
Mrs. Kennedy: Let me ask you a question.
Mr. Carollo: I'm being told now, gee, maybe we don't have it but nobody
remembers having approved it to go anywhere.
Mr. Plummer: I'd like to get it but I've got to leave.
Mayor Suarez: You know, I don't see any consensus behind that motion so I
wouldn't worry about it, I mean, we don't even have a second for it.
Mr. Carollo: Cesar, the point that I'm making is, that I think we're all in
agreement that Virginia Key needs that money desperately and what I'm trying
to do is get that money for the police protection that we need for Virginia
Key and, at the same time, to improve on the beaches and the park.
Mrs. Kennedy: But, but, but, Commissioner...
Mr. Carollo: And if we get this five hundred thousand dollars hopefully we
could get another equal amount in matching funds from the state.
Mrs. Kennedy: OK, but are you talking about a substation in Virginia...
Mr. Carollo: No, no. Just for the regular police protection that we have to
provide it.
Mr. Plummer: Well, I don't think you can use bond money for that. You can't
use - that was for - that was...
Mr. Carollo: No, yes. If you could use it - the interest, you can use for
anything. Yes.
Mr. Plummer: And you're going to wipe out all contingency.
Mr. Dawkins: Yes.
Mr. Plummer: I can't vote for that.
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Mr. Carollo: That's just the interest, J.L.
Mr. Plummer: Yes, I understand, Joe, but we need a contingency.
Mr. Carollo: Mall, we could always take it from it later on maybe - maybe,
but...
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be spending any more money on Virginia Key at all, so...
Mr. Plummer: Well...
Mr. Dawkins (off mike): I thought you shouldn't spend any more on the
substations.
Mayor Suarez: Well...
Mr. Plummer: Joe, Joe, we get the two of them built and we have money left
over, I would vote for you in a minute.
Mr. Carollo: Well, if you want then, let's cut it in half - two fifty - that
will give me another two fifty from the state.
Mr. Plummer: I've got to leave a contingency.
Mr. Carollo: And it will give us a million dollars. Leave two fifty, or
more.
Mr. Plummer: I can't do it right now. I'm sorry. I'd like to do it, but I
just - I've got to be safe in getting those two substations which we made a
commitment to the voters on and I've got to leave a contingency. Sorry.
Mr. Carollo: Well, we did leave a contingency, two hundred and fifty
thousand.
Mr. Plummer: When those two doors - when those two doors open, if we've still
got five hundred thousand, I'll look very favorably on that kind of a
situation. But, until those doors are open, I've got to keep monies back.
53. GRANTEES OF CITY FUNDS INTENDED FOR FUND-RAISING EVENTS MOST AGREE IN
WRITING THAT EXPENDITURES OF GROSS PROCEEDS OR PROFITS REALIZED FROM
FUND-RAISERS MUST HAVE PRIOR APPROVAL BY THE CITY COMMISSION (SEE LABEL
#34)
Mr. Plummer: I would like to get this one, Mr. Mayor. Let me read this one
very quickly. This is the one we brought up this morning that everybody...
Mayor Suarez: Item seventy-one. OK, Commission, Mr. Vice -Mayor, Vice -Mayor,
Plummer.
Thereupon, Vice -Mayor Plummer read the resolution into the public record.
Mr. Plummer: I so move.
Mr. Odio: Commissioner, Carollo, Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Suarez: Yes, Cesar.
Mr. Odio: We have - we have exactly one million, three hundred thousand
dollars in the bank, uncommitted, for - from interest.
Mayor Suarez: Right.
Mr. Plummer: That's fine.
Mayor Suarez: Great.
Mr Plummer: Good.
Mr. Carollo: So, we need another eight hundred thousand?
Mr. Plummer: Too.
Mr. Mot Tou have a mLIllon throe total in the bank.
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Mr. Plummer: You agree with this, don't you?
Hr. Dawkins: Um humm.
Mr. Plummer* OK, do you second it? Yes.
Mr. Dawkins: I second it.
Mayor Suarez* OK, so moved on this resol - so moved on this resolution.
Mr. Carollo* Us got eight hundred thousand left.
Mr. Plummer: Right.
Mayor Suarez: Seconded. Any discussion? Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 87-572
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING, DIRECTING AND INSTRUCTING
THE CITY MANAGER HENCEFORTH TO WITHHOLD DISBURSEMENT
OF ALL CITY FUNDS TO ANY PROPOSED RECIPIENT OF A CITY
GRANT WHERE THE FUNDS TO BE PROVIDED UNDER THE GRANT
ARE TO BE USED IN SUPPORT OF ANY FUND-RAISING EVENT OR
PROGRAM UNLESS THE PROPOSED GRANTEE AGREES IN WRITING
THAT THERE BE NO EXPENDITURE OF THE GROSS PROCEEDS OR
PROFITS REALIZED FROM SUCH FUND-RAISING EVENT OR
PROGRAM WITHOUT THE PRIOR APPROVAL BY THE CITY
COMMISSION OF SUCH EXPENDITURE.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Dawkins, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
54. SOUTHSIDE PARK TO BE REZONED FOR ONCOLOGY CENTER TO BE USED BY LIGA
CONTRA EL CANCER
Mr. Plummer: All right, where are we on La Liga Cancer?
Mr. Carollo: Well, if we get the administration to come up here and explain
to us, but we've made a commitment to these people for something that is `?
needed for the whole community to have an oncology center at this particular
site and I want you to tell us clearly so that I can the motion, what are the
steps that we need to make right now to take to accomplish
this?-
Mr. Al Armada: Yes,
sir. There are basically three steps
as I understand it.
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The one, first step
is basically to designate this site
no longer to be a'
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v,rk. The second
is essentially to give me some direction as to how
effectively to close
South Side Park. Whether we want to
rezone from a park*
and sec zoned site to
a perhaps governmental use so that
the center could be
built. Or, otherwise, if we don't want to rezone Lt, then the other
alternative is to go
through a major use special permit.
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Mr. Plummer: What's
the best May to travel?
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Mr. Armada: 1 understand that the best way is to go through the major use
special permit. That seems to be the most simpler way to do it.
Mr. Carollo: Well, I make a motion that we go through the major use special
permit route.
Mr. Plummer: It's gone. Yes. Yes, we understand that the park now. OK, I
second the motion for discussion. Now, the question is, and Lourdes you'll
have to answer this, as I recall, where we got into a problem before and I
want to make sure that we're travelling along the right road this time, is
that regardless of what we do, you are still subject to the authority of the -
that hospital board who either issues a permit or they do not issue a permit.
Am I...
Me. Lourdes Aguila: A hospital?
Mr. Plummer: There's an authority that says on the hospitals.
Ms. Aguila: Yes, but we decide that now we need an oncology center.
Mr. Plummer: This is different than before?
Ms. Aguila: This is different than before. This is the same thing that we
have now but a bigger place with more facilities.
Mr. Plummer: OK.
Ms. Aguila: OK.
Mayor Suarez: You were thinking of the Health Systems Agency, the successor
to that?
Mr. Plummer: Exactly. Let me tell you what one of the things that happened
before. We went through this process and they went through it and then that
agency denied their permit and everything that we did went for naught.
Mr. Carollo: Yes.
Mr. Plummer: Now, you're telling me under this new concept, you don't have to
be subject to that agency.
Ms. Aguila: No.
Mr. Plummer: OK.
Ms. Aguila: Because for the hospital, you need a certificate of need.
Mr. Plummer: OK.
Ms. Aguila: And this is about the same that we have now but bigger with more
facility and in that way we can have more to nuke tests and everything that
is - that we can attend more patients and less cost for us.
Mr. Plummer: OK.
Ms. Aguila: Because you know that for the past three years, I have been
coming - here for several times.
Mr. Plummer: OK - that's - you raise the question. I will.
Ms. Aguila: And we only get promise.
Mr. Plummer: All right, the question then has to be legally, what method of
bidding will we use to go forth with?
Mr. Armada: Correct. Correct.
Mr. Plummer: We have to do that as I understand it, to comply with the law.
Or, Carollo: That's correct.
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Mr. Armadas Correct, air.
Mr. Plummer: OK. Nov what method do you propose?
Mr. Armadas dell, I basically have always said that this is a unified
development project and we Mould have to go that route and bring it back to
you, of course, through a resolution with a particular mandate saying, yes,
this is a project that has to be designated as a unified development project.
I feel that that's the way to go.
Mr. Plummer: Does that circumvent bidding?
Mr. Armada: No, not at all.
Mr. Plummer: Then you still have to go through a bidding procedure...
Mr. Armada: Yes.
Mr. Plummer: ... and make it available to the general public.
Mr. Armada: Yes.
Mr. Carollo: Yes, it doesn't mean we have to...
Mr. Plummers I understand, the way the bids are written.
Mr. Armada: Now, the other option, of course, which I describe here, is that
If you wanted to be more specific as to what to use to do with the site, to
even include in the RFP documents, you know, bidding docu - I mean, drawings
that you could build based on those construction drawings, then we would use
the more traditional route.
Mr. Plummer: All right. So is our step here today to instruct you to prepare
an RFP and bring it back. Is that what we have to do today?
Mr. Armada: Basically, as I said, the action should be to do those three - to
do these three things, number one, basically no longer designate this site as
a park; number two, basically, indicate that we would follow the major use of
special permits to try to get a special use for that site which will continue
to be zoned parks and rec but it's going to be used for something else,
basically an oncological center and, thirdly, decide which way to go. The UDP
route or other ways - otherwise more traditional route which is more specific.
Mrs. Kennedy: Is the park used? Do the children need the park?
Mr. Armada: I cannot answer that.
Ms. Aguila: Well...
Mrs. Kennedy: Can't somebody in the city's department answer?
Mr. Carollo: Let me tell you something, that park is very little used.
Ms. Aguila: Commissioner...
Me. Carollo: Very little use. But - but regardless..
Mrs. Kennedy: I - Lourdes, let me may for the record, I think you have a
great organization, I think it's one of the best kept secrets in town and I
wish that more and more Americans knew of the work that you do. I'm just
trying to figure out if that is the correct site. If there is an alternative
site...
Mr. Plummer: There are no other sites.
Mrs. Kennedy: No alternative.
Mr. Armadas There are no alternative sites. That...
Mr. Carollos Regardless of what we do, I guarantee you and assure you that
Danny boy will be walking through.
Mr. Plummer: Well, I think that we ought to proceed. I Mould much prefer to
go ahead and proceed without designating to close the park until such time as
we're ready to close with them.
Mr. Carollo: Yes.
Mr. Plummer: OK.
Mr. Carollo: Yes, that would only make sense to do it that way.
Mr. Plummer: I don't want to come up tomorrow and have the park closed...
Mrs. Kennedy: Right.
Mr. Plummer: Now, if we can come to some kind of agreement with these people
and we can come to some kind of successful bidding procedure, then, of course,
there's no question we close the park. I don't want to see that park closed
now.
Mr. Carollo: Not until we close with them.
Mr. Plummer: Yes.
Mr. Armada: Are you giving me then instructions to proceed to try to get a
major use permit?
Mr. Carollo: That's correct. That is a motion to incorporate all of that.
Mr. Armada: And then further to provide a UDP process.
Mr. Plummer: And start preparing an RFP, that's what I would say.
Mr. Carollo: The motion is to incorporate all of that, into one.
Mr. Plummer: And I second the motion.
Mayor Suarez: Who seconded it?
Mr. Plummer: I second it.
Mayor Suarez: Nov, didn't we - and Mr. City Manager, didn't we instruct you
to for alternative sites and...
Mr. Armada: Yes.
Mayor Suarez: ... are you telling me that, and we also instructed the
manager, I don't know how many months ago, to look at all the parks in the
city of Miami and see which ones we could possibly, like some of the mini -
parks we could possibly divest ourselves of, etc., etc.
Mr. Armada: Yes, air, we did that.
Mr. Odlo: We - Mayor...
Mr. Armada: Yes.
Mayor Suarez: In a complete review of the city's park structure.
Mr. Odio: I did - we did that. This is the only... E'
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Mrs. Kennedy: Mr. Manager, one of the parks that I don't think is ever used, 1
or at least if it is used, it is for the wrong purposes, is Simpson Park.
That park is a horror.
Mr. Plummer: What's that? ;t
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Mr. Odio: But that's too small.
!Mrs. Kennedy: Simpson - not nec...
Hr. Plummr: You touch Simpson Park and you have brought down four thousand
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Mr. Odic: All the birds and the bees and everybody else.
Mr. Plummer: OK? They got trees in there that are four thousand years old...
Mrs. Kennedy: But, what's it...
Mr. Plummers You'd better not touch Simpson Park.
Mayor Suarez: How many square feet do they need? Are they looking for?
Mrs. Kennedy: OK, but I'm not saying for this...
Mr. Armada: They're looking to build a one hundred thousand square feet
structure or plus.
Mr. Odic: It's a hundred thousand square feet. It's the size of the
exhibition center that we have here in Coconut Grove. So that you can picture
what we're talking about.
Mr. Armada: But, you know, you go...
Mayor Suarez: A hundred thousand square feet...
Mr. Armada: Plus.
Mayor Suarez: and how big a site do they need for that?
Mr. Armada: Yell, the only site that would best suit the possibility to build
that kind of a structure is South Side Park.
Mr. Odic: No, no, I have one in Overtovn.
Mayor Suarez: Walter...
Mr. Walter Pierce: Just to throw a little caution here. You know, everything
that Al says about what kind of site is needed is all totally speculation.
There's no way that anybody can guess accurately on the size of the site
needed without seeing some kind of a construction plan with -------- only.
Mayor Suarez: Well, but I want to know, do we need a park to build this thing
or do we need just a - you know, a hundred thousand square feet is what, two
and a half acres, I mean, you know, how big is South Side Park?
Mr. Pierce: About two - about two and a quarter acres.
Mr. Odio: Let me point out, Mr. !Mayor, that this is - South Side Park is the
only acceptable site for them. We proposed other sites.
Mr. Plummer (off mike): -------- before. We looked at three or four
different sites and it just was not ------
Mr. Odic: They wanted to be near Brickell Avenue and S. W. Oth Street and the
Metrorail System.
No. Aguilar The problem is that Southside Park - we've been there several
time and In - always is empty - nobody's use and is near Metrorail. The
Metrorail station is there. Half all the expressway. The location is
beautiful because we have doctors volunteer from !Mercy Hospital, from Jackson
Hospital and we need to be in a good location that is easier for everybody for
all these volunteers. And that's why we are asking that if representing the
League, we want a resolution today, if it is possible, or an agreement because
for the past three years, we have been here several time and we only got
notions.
Mayor Suarez: Ott. tee, I know, Lourdes, we've been at this before.
Mr. Carollo (off mike)s Can we call the question because I think we're going_
to accomplish what we need to now, Lourdes.
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Mayor Suarez: One last clarification.
Mr. Armada: One of the first things that t did, OK, was to, in fact, go
through a needs assessment process. What i was trying to do there was, in
fact, to match their needs, OK, and our resources, OK, and in conclusion the
South Side Park was the only available site that could be used.
Mayor Suarez: Can you give me one alternative site that was even considered?
Mr. Armada: Yea, Mr. Mayor. Yes, Mr. Mayor. We - we, for example, proposed
a site that is on N. W. 14th Street and 24th Avenue.
Mayor Suarez: Right.
Mr. Armada: And that site...
Mayor Suarez: Allapattah.
Mr. Armada: No, it was - yes, in about the Allapattah area.
Mayor Suarez: Roughly.
Mr. Armada: Which is the old nursery.
Mayor Suarez: South of the river or north of the river up there?
Mr. Armada: South of the river. And that site was not acceptable to the Liga
Contra B1 Cancer.
Mayor Suarez: Why?
Ms. Aguila: Well, because this side explain that we work with a lot of
doctors - volunteers more than one hundred and fifty...
Mayor Suarez: Wait. Lourdes, let me clarify the site because that sounds -
N. W. 24th Avenue?
Mr. Armada: And 14th Street, sir.
Mayor Suarez: That's close to 27th and 22nd Avenues which are main arteries.
Mr. Armada: Yes, between...
Mayor Suarez: 14th Street right south of the river?
Mr. Armada: South of the river, air, yes, and that side...
Mayor Suarez: And adjacent to the river?
Mr. Armada: No, sir. It's not adjacent to the river. It is about...
Mayor Suarez: And it's city owned property?
Mr. Armada: Yee, sir, we have about five acres there.
Mayor Suarez: How many acres?
Mr. Armada: Five.
Mayor Suarez: See, I would vote for that, but I have a tough time voting for
converting a park, Lourdes. But, I'm one vote. Have you considered -
seriously considered that site and you didn't realize the legal problems
that - am I not right, Madam City Attorney, that there are all kinds of legal
problems with converting a city park into an oncology center?
No. Dougherty: No, we've already researched the acquisition of the park and I
can't remember what it In now, but a long time ago, that's not a problem, the
problem is again the bidding. You have to first declare it a surplus park and
then designate the other use by special permit.
Mayor Suarez: Because that's a very central place that they're talking about.
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No. Aguilar Weil, is fourteen and N.W. twenty-two second avenue.
Mayor Suarez: Northwest 24th Avenue and Fourteenth Street.
Ms. Aguilar Twenty-fourth Avenue and Fourteenth Street.
Mayor Suarez: Very close to the river, very central.
Mrs. Kennedy: Yes, that's a great location.
Mayor Suarez: What is there now, Walter? Or Al? Just an empty lot or what?
Mr. Pierce: No, it's right now, it's presently used as a materials storage
—� yard for the Public Yorks Department.
Mayor Suarez: And we can find alternative places for that?
Mr. Pierces It probably would be easier to find an alternative for that.
But, Mr. Mayor, back to one word about some of the information that Al was
given on the zoning. It's a - I'm not really sure that the major use special
exception to allow hospital in the park is really the way to go. It might be
that you would flat out need to change the zoning on the park site to do that.
Mayor Suarez: Have you - let me ask just one last question. I know the
commission wants to vote on this. Have you really considered that other site?
De verdad?
Ms. Aguila: Well, we have to study that site again because really, because
the problem with us is only the volunteers, you know, that - the other side is
nearer where they work, you know, and we're going to have a problem. But,
anyway, we have to study that new site.
Mr. Plummer: I called the question.
Mayor Suarez: OK, do you have a motion on...
Mr. Carollo (off mike): There's a motion and there's a second.
Mayor Suarez: We have a motion and a second. Can you tell me the tenor of
the motion?
Mr. Plummer: Yes, the tenor is that we ask the administration to proceed
along the lines of the major use permit and also to start developing ar RFP to
go out for the bidding.
Mr. Pierce: Zoning change to be the comprehensive plan, not mayor use.
Mr. Plummer: Then, fine, if that's what we've got to do, that's what we do.
Fine. Fine.
Mayor Suarez:, Did the - would the other alterna...
Mr. Plummer: The whole key is going to be the RFP.
Mayor Suarez: Would the alternative site require a zone change?
Mr. Armada: Yes, the same.
Mayor Suarez: OK.
Mr. Plummer: Yes, because it's all government use right now. Yes.
Mayor Suarez: So moved. And seconded. Any further discussion? Call the
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The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Carollo, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 87-573
A RESOLUTION ACKNOWLEDGING THAT THE CITY -OWNED SITE, KNOWN
AS SOUTHSIDE PARK, LOCATED AT 100 S. W. 11 STREET, IS NO
LONGER SUITABLE FOR PARK PURPOSES; AUTHORIZING THE CITY
MANAGER TO TAKE THE NECESSARY ACTION TO INITIATE STEPS
LEADING TO A POSSIBLE REZONING FOR THAT SITE TO PERMIT THE
USE OF THE SITE FOR AN ONCOLOGY CENTER; FURTHER
AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO TAKE THE NECESSARY ACTION
TO PLACE BEFORE THE COMMISSION FOR ITS CONSIDERATION A
UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT PROJECT FOR SAID SITE IF AND WHEN THE
SITE HAS BEEN REZONED.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here
and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
NOES: Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
ABSENT: None
DURING ROLL CALL:
Mrs. Kennedy: I would have preferred the other site, but...
Mr. Plummer: Well, anybody, I think , would have preferred a site other than
a park. But, as I see it, there is no other site. So that's where we're down
to.
Mayor Suarez: Well, I have to vote no. And let me tell you, on top of
everything else, Lourdes, that we just got this study on this particular site
today. In fact, the memorandum is dated with today's date. Had I had a
little bit more time, I think I could have convinced you that the other site
made more sense.
Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, you'll still have that opportunity.
Mayor Suarez: Yes, well, I hope so.
Mr. Plummer: Between now and when the RFP comes back.
Mayor Suarez: I hope no, because I think it will be a lot quicker for you to
get the other site than this one. OK.
Mrs. Kennedy: Yes.
55. CONFIRM CONSTRUCTION OF SILVER BLUFF HIGHWAY IMPROVEMENT
Mr. Odio: Before - we had a public hearing for six o'clock scheduled, item 72
Is award of... opening of bids.
Mayor Suarez: Yes, I'll entertain a motion on Silver Sluff highway
Improvement. Is that - do we have anyone from the neighborhood here on that
Issue? On seventy-two?
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Mr. Odio: There Man a meeting held with the property owners on ?larch 3, 1871
sixteen attended of which...
Mayor Suarez: Didn't he hammer out a compromise as a result of that meeting?
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Mr. Odlo: There were four hundred and thirty-three in favor and two opposed.
Mr. Plummer: What is this for?
Mrs. Kennedy: What item is that, Mr. Manager?
Mr. Odlo: Is highway improvement, area bordered Southwest twenty...
Mr. Plummer: I move the item.
Mrs. Kennedy: What item is that?
Mayor Suarez: Seventy-two.
Mr. Odio: Seventy-two.
Mr. Dawkins: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Is there anyone here that wishes to be heard on item seventy-
two? Step forward. Let the record reflect that no one has. I'll entertain a
notion on it.
Mr. Plummer: Move it.
Mayor Suarez: It was a motion, do we have a second?
Mr. Dawkins: Second.
Mrs. Kennedy: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Seconded. Third it. Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 87-574
A RESOLUTION CONFIRMING ORDERING RESOLUTION NO. 87-422 AND
AUTHORIZING THE CITY CLERK TO ADVERTISE FOR SEALED BIDS
FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF SILVER BLUFF HIGHWAY IMPROVEMENT
H-4527 IN SILVER BLUFF HIGHWAY IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT H-
4527.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here
and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Dawkins, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ASSENT: Coaraissioner Joe Carollo
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56. DISCUSSION CONCERNING THE SALE OP GOLD MEDALLIONS COMMORATING THE
POPE'S VISIT IN SEPTEMBER 1987
Mr. Plummer: All right. Either bring up the medallions or I'm gone.
Mr. Odio: I have Mr. Michael P. Angenend, he's the president of the
Washington Mint, Incorporated. Would you explain to them that, that...
Mr. Dawkins: What number?
Mrs. Kennedy: What Item is that...
Mr. Plummer: It's not.
Mrs. Kennedy: Yes, it In. The Pope.
Mr. Dawkins: What number?
Mrs. Kennedy: Number seventy.
Mr. Plummer: This is - Oh, the medallions.
Mr. Odio: Seventy, seventy.
Mr. Plummer: The Pope's visit; quickly.
Mr. Michael Angenend: Quickly, what we're... what we have here... we're the
Washington Mint, we're striking a coin. It will be - actually begin being
struck June 15th, which is Monday. It will be marked nationally.
Mr. Dawkins: What number is this?
Mrs. Kennedy: Seventy.
Mr. Dawkins: Seventy? I thought they withdrew it.
Mr. Angenend: We expect to market between three and five million coins
nationally. It was designed in - the Washington Mint put the coin together...
Mr. Dawkins: Oh, OK.
Mr. Angenend: ... and this program together originally to help defray the
cost by the Catholic Diocese that were - the money that they had to put up and
defray to sponsor and bring the Pope here. I've been to the National
Conference of Bishops, the National Council for the Papal Visit. Basically,
the council can neither approve nor disapprove the commercial imarketing of any
Item. The only thing that they do is - their purpose is to - they ask that
anything being marketed, be marketed in good taste. What we have here - we
have some lead - these have been struck from the dies; these are samples of
what the coin will look like, the Papal Coin. Here's both sides - a printed
copy of both sides. Ve have personally shorn this coin to - the artist's
renditions and what not - to Archbishop McCarthy here. His personal
opinion's - the only thing that he can give, is his own personal opinion; the
church cannot either recommend nor discourage any commercial sale of any coin.
What we recommend to do - what we have In a proposal, that if the coins -
we're going to sell them nationally. If they are sold in !Miami, we feel like
the city of Miami - we understand has a budget problem in some of the
expenditures needed for the parade. Vhat we recommend that we find vendors
and some sponsors in the city of Miami and the Washington Mint, there's ten
dollars in the sale - from the sale of the coin in profit. And what we
recommend that we do In find some sponsors here to market the coin in Miami
and the Vashington Mint will donate three dollars on the sald of each coin to
the city of Miami for their budget to offset these costs and then they're be
seven dollars there left in profit for the vendors in the sale of the coin.
Mr. Plumsor: How many...
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Mrs. Kennedy: What would be the profit to the city? What is the net cost of
the coinst t see that you have several coins.
Mr. Odios We will - we will obtain a three dollars free and clear from each
coin.
Mr. Plummer: Per sale.
Mr. Angenends Net.
Mr. Odio: Per sale.
Mr. Angenends Right.
Mr. Odios Net.
Mr. Plummer: And what do you estimate the total number of potential sales
are?
Mr. Angenend: We're estimating, as I said, three to five million coins
nationally.
Mr. Plummer: No, in Miami.
Mr. Angenend: There's nine major cities. If you break it down, there's a
potential here for the Florida -Miami area of between three hundred and fifty -
three hundred, three hundred fifty thousand coin sales.
Mr. Plummer: What is the negative side? What is the negative side if they
don't sell that many? What obligation are we making...
Mrs. Kennedy: Right.
Mr. Plummer: ... to you - you looking to us for to make financially to you,
if any.
Mr. Angenend: Nothing. Zero. What we're...
Mr. Plummer: You're saying, we have everything to gain and nothing to lose?
Mr. Angenend: Absolutely. We're going to market the...
Mr. Plummer: What the hell are you doing here? Why don't you just go do it?
Mr. Odio: Let - let me...
Mr. Angenend: We are going to go do it.
Mr. Odio: Well, let me point out...
Mr. Plummer: No, but I... If we got nothing to lose and we gain three dollars
per sale...
Mrs. Kennedy: Let me just clarify a point. You said three dollars per coin,
but they're different coins, they're different prices.
Mr. Angenend: Wells let me explain something. What you have here - the -
we're also striking, this is the bicentennial coin for the celebration, that's
the sample.
Mr. Plummer: Well, what, what... wait a minute, what do we have to approve?
Mrs. Kennedy: Well, well, we want to find out how much we're going to make?
Mr. Odios Nell, I wonder if they're going to put...
Mr. Plummers You don't know until they start selling.
Mrs. Kennedy: Yes, he does. He...
Mr. Odlo: Well, they're going to put the city logo...
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Mr. Plummer: We're going to make three dollars per sale.
Mrs. Kennedy: No, but they're different prices.
Mr. Angenend: Pardon? We can put the city logo on the box...
Mr. Odio: They will have the city logo on the boxes and...
Mr. Angenend: ... what we, what we'll do is put the city logo on the boxes.
Mr. Odlo: it - it - I cannot...
Mr. Plummer: At no expense to us.
Mr. Angenend: At no charge.
Mr. Odio: No expense.
Mr. Plummer: And we get three dollars for every sale you make.
Mr. Angenend: That's right.
Mr. Odio: Let me point out at this moment...
Mr. Angenend: Through the vendors - through a sponsor or a vendor.
Mr. Odio: Just - just so that...
Mrs. Kennedy: Well, I...
Mr. Odio: Because I heard, Commissioner Kennedy, I heard a lot of talk about
T-shirts and this and that...
Mrs. Kennedy: Yes, it doesn't make sense.
Mr. Odio: ... we never proposed...
Mrs. Kennedy: No, no.
Mr. Plummer: No way.
Mr. Odio: ... to sell any trinkets whatsoever. The idea was, of a medallion
type, and this is what came up. If they produce - if we sell them, we make
some money.
Mr. Plummer: Who can be opposed to it? Are you opposed it to?
Mr. Bob Clarks (off mike): Yes.
Mrs. Kennedy: Wait a second, J.L., I have some questions.
Mr. Plummer: Yes.
Mrs. Kennedy: One second.
Mr. Odio: The one - the one thing I did want to point out that they are doing
this in all the cities that the Pope is coming to.
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Mr. Angenend: That the Pope will be here. That's right, there's only nine
cities.
Mr. Odio: And one of the cities was at the request of the Archdiocese in that ='
city.
Mr. Angenend: Right. Basically, the way we got involved in this, yes? z;
Mr. Dawkins: Give your name and address for the records. They don't have it,
please. ?`
Mr. Angenend: My naive is Michael Angenend from Houston, Texas.
Mr, Dawkins: Thank you, sir.
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Mr. Angenend: Thank you.
Mayor Suarez: Vhat city was it that the archbishop made a request of this
sort?
Mr. Angenend: Let me explain.
Mayor Suarez: To the city council or other similar body?
Mr. Angenend: No, there - the way - there has not been a request from an
archdiocese to a city council, all right?
Mayor Suarez: Fine, that clarifies that question.
Mr. Angenend: All right.
Mayor Suarez: Vell, ghat was there, as long as you're going - do you want
to...
Mr. Angenend: There has been a request to us, for example, we're from Texas -
I'm from Texas...
Mayor Suarez: By whom?
Mr. Angenend: Pardon?
Mayor Suarez: A request to you by whom?
Mr. Angenend: By members of the church in...
Mayor Suarez: Who?
Mr. Angenend: ... Texas.
Mayor Suarez: Did the Papal Nuncio contact you about it?
Mr. Angenend: No, not at all, we contacted...
Mayor Suarez: Did Father Lynch in Vashington, D. C. who is in charge of the
Pope's visit for the entire country contact you about it?
Mr. Angenend: No, I contacted them about it. -
Mayor Suarez: OK, who...
Mr. Angenend: I contacted Bob Lynch, Bob Span. I contacted...
Mayor Suarez: Do you have anything in writing from Father Lynch?
Mr. Angenend: No, because Father Lynch won't give anything in writing to
anybody. Let see explain something. I think there's a misunderstanding.
There's five ovuers of the Washington Mint and they're all Catholic and I
spent two years...
Mr. Plusher: You don't need h vote. There's nothing to vote on.
Linda Kelley, Esq.: There's nothing to vote on.
Mr. Odio: Yes, I do. I want you to tell me I can...
Ms. Kelley: There's nothing to vote on.
Ur. Angenend: ... in the seminary studying to be a priest. In the State of
Texas, the State of Texas has to come up with two point eight mullion dollars'
is order to help defray the costs of the Papal visit. I was approached by
some of the - my friends and fellow priests that there needed to be sows Money
tasde, The Vashington Mint is striking this cola and we're donating the money.
We've dome it - we've contacted the bishops in all the major cities. Vo
contacted the archbishop here. There's so bishop, there's so cosacil, there's
so mo that can either approve or disapprove the sale of any items for the
Papal visit. The only thing that they recommend and ask is that it be dotes is ='
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good taste. So far, every - the Texas Council of Bishops, all fourteen of
them, voted unanimously that our coin was in good taste and fit their mandate.
Mrs. Kennedy: As a Catholic, I'm delighted to see the head of my church as
well as the head of state to come into Miami. It is a reality that is going
to cost the city over four hundred thousand dollars and we don't have the
budget to pay for these costs. So, from what you're saying, I don't see any
downfall. We can make a lot of money and offset the expense, so 1, therefore,
move this item.
Linda Kelley, Esq.: What needs to be clarified here, though, however, is that
the city of Miami cannot promote the selling of this item. We cannot - we
can't do that. That would be unconstitutional.
Mrs. Kennedy: I moved.
Ms. Kelley: Certain...
Mrs. Kennedy: I moved.
Unidentified male speaker: Good.
Mrs. Kennedy: I can't. Where's Commissioner Plummer?
INAUDIBLE COMMENTS FROM MR. ODIO OFF MIKE.
Mrs. Kennedy: Call him.
Bob Clark, Esq.: Mrs. Kennedy, before you make your motion, you should be
aware that the local - that you're seeking is not copyrighted, the city
doesn't own it. We could not prevent the use of the seal. We - it would not
be within - I have to say this on the records so that it's clear that the city
commission is not violating any establishment clause that's in the
constitution. I had - I think that should be stated on the record.
Mrs. Kennedy: Let's discuss this a little further then. What is the
objection here?
Mayor Suarez: Well, there's a lot less entanglement than the first time that
it was proposed because it sounded like it was going to be a city project.
But, it's still entanglement and I'm - I oppose it. I don't think it's
necessary and I don't think we should be involved in it.
Mrs. Kennedy: Yes, but the city's not going to be the vendor. They are.
Mr. Angenend: Mayor, we're going to do it with or without the city's - we're
going to...
Mrs. Kennedy: They - if we don't approve it, they're going to do it anyways.
Mr. Angenend: we'll be marketing this nationally. What we've done -
primarily, what we did is, we set this coin up to help defray costs for the
Papal visit. It's on good will on our part. We can either give you the money
or we can keep the money. It doesn't matter to us.
Mr. Dawkins: You can very easily get put in jail if I pass a resolution that
make it unlawful for you to sell them. That can very easily happen to you,
sir.
Mr. Angenend: That may be the case, but that would be inhibiting a free
enterprise and I don't...
Mr. Dawkins: All right then. I will - no, but you telling me what you're
going to do, I just have to tell you what I may do, that's all.
Mr. Angenend: Well, I understand that, but...
Mr. Dawkins: OK.
Mr. Angenend:
of anything.
... I don't think you could restrict me from national marketing
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Mr. Dawkins: OR, no problem. I don't care, but - but 1 tell you what. If 1
put you in jail, and we don't let you out until the Pope leave, you'll have a
whole lot of medallions when he leave.
Mr. Angenead: Should I remove my offer?
Mayor Suares: Yes, that nice suggestion from the city attorney. We'll take
_ whatever check you want to send to us at the end of the sale process. If you
want to send us a check to help defray the cost of the Pope's visit while he
was here. But, as long as you don't request our official entanglement in your
enterprise.
Mr. Angenend: That sounds very good. Thank you.
Mr. Dawkins: OK, thank you.
Mayor Suarez: We're always open to donations to help the city along.
Mr. Dawkins: Call the - go to the next item, so we can get out of here.
Mayor Suarez: OK.
57. BRIEF DISCUSSION CONCERNING COUNTY TAX INCREMENT ISSUE
Mayor Suarez: Let's go through these items according to the agenda, which is
what we should have been doing. Fifty-five. Do we have representatives of
the Affirmative Action Board? Oh, I'm sorry, let's take up Camillus House,
Item sixty-four. I know - there's a lot of people waiting for that item? You
raise your hands, please.
Mr. Walter Pierce: Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Suarez: Yes, Valter.
Mr. Pierce: May I make a quick announcement while they're getting ready. On,
on, on Tuesday, on the county cosssission agenda, the tax increments districts
will be up for discussion and we were to remind the commission that you had
said previously that all of you would be there personally to - to show your...
Mayor Suarez: Yes, would you coordinate with my office. I want to be there
present. I think...
Mr. Dawkins: This Tuesday?
Mr. Pierce: This coming Tuesday, the 16th.
Mr. Dawkins: OK.
Mr. Pierce: It's a...
Mayor Suarez: I think we may be able to do something on that before the 16th,
but just in case.
Mr. Dawkins: Vhat time?
Mr. Pierce: I don't know the exact time that it is scheduled. But we have
copies now - the agenda ites:s, but we don't know what agenda item number it is
or what time. We'll find out tomorrow and we'll notify each commissioner's
office so that you'll be fully aware of it.
Mr. Dawkins: OK, thanks, Mr. Pierce.
Mr. Pierces All right.
58. DISCUSSION CONCERNING RELOCATION OF THE CAMILLUS HODS$
Mayor Suarez: What's the issue on sixty-four? Vho's making a presentation on
this? Oh, Margaret.
Mr. Dawkins: Hey, there, Margaret, how you doing?
Mayor Suarez: Brother Paul, would you go up to the mike for a second? This
is not really related to this item, but I want to ask you a question.
Brother Pauli Yes, Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Suarez: Do you ever print any commemorative coins or otherwise solicit
monies for your program?
Brother Paul: No, never have.
Mayor Suarez: Thank you.
Brother Paul: I would accept that donation though.
Mayor Suarez: And it seems to...
Brother Paul: I'll even accept the medallion. Thank you. I'm sorry, did
you...
Mayor Suarez: See if I ever go visit you over there.
Brother Paul: Thank you.
Ms. Margaret Miller: Margaret Miller, 328 N. W. 4th Avenue. I was going to
come to you today and talk about two things. One, the needs of the elderly in
that area of downtown Miami that lies between the Government Center and the
river and the second thing that I wanted to talk to you about was the
homeless. But, because it's late, I'm going to abbreviate what I had to say
about the elderly and simply say that I have not changed my mind. That I feel
today the way I did two years ago. That this is abuse of the elderly. As for
the homeless who go to the Camillus House, a facility such as that has been
described by the Franciscan Friars of Atonement in New York, as being a
revolving door facility. The people do not go there and spend a length of
time there. They are, what the Franciscans say, in and out and that means
that in downtown Miami where the Camillus House is wanting to relocate, there
will be thousands of homeless people on the streets of downtown Miami and what
In to happen to them after they leave the Camillus House? Miami is known as a
"walking city." It is not - we're not talking about Chicago, Manhattan and so
on where they can be absorbed. We're talking about a city where one can
Indeed walk easily from river to bay and from whatever direction you go in.
These homeless people, after being put out of the Camillus House after a few
days, will find themselves heading toward Bayside where they are going to be,
shall we may, discouraged from staying at Bayside or Bayf rout or Bicentennial
Park or the college or the new School of Performing Arts where high school
students are going to be coming into the city and also discouraged from being
In the Government Center that is just a breath away from where they want to
be. So why all this abuse of the elderly? For what purpose? To also wind up
being abusive to the Miami street people? And it seems to me that there's
nothing to be gained and I would be asking you to not let this become a tawdry
chapter in the history of the city of Miami. I ask you to put your minds to
work, your creative minds, to coming up with a solution that will be
advantageous to the street people, which this is not. And that will not throw
fear into the hearts of the elderly, which it does. And will show concern for
others in downtown Miami.
Mayor Suarez: Margaret, let me ask you a question. How close do you now live
to the existing facility of Camillus house? '
Me. !filler: Well, it is on the other side and one block over - of the street.
Mayor Suarez: The existing facility. Where they now are.
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Ms. Millen Oh, the existing facility. I'm several blocks from that...
Mayor Suarers Did you... do you...
Ms. Miller: ... that's out on northeast - on First Avenue.
Mayor Suarez: Right. Do you drive by there occasionally?
Ms. Miller: I have driven by there, yes.
Mayor Suarers And people who visit you must drive by there occasionally, I
would think, right?
Ms. Miller: The people who visit me?
Mayor Suarez: Yes.
Ms. Miller: Usually not. They are people who come in from other directions
on the expressway. But I'm sure that they know what we're talking about, yes.
But, you see, I don't know...
Mayor Suarez: Because it - the point I'm trying to make is that that existing
facility and the way it's being run and operated, affects the quality of your
life too and that of the people that come to see you.
Ms. Miller: Well, the way the ...
Mayor Suarez: And the proposed one is a whole different kind of a thing and
maybe you'll be convinced of that and maybe not, I don't know.
Ms. Miller: The way the facility is run, we have no problem with. That
facility is run properly and it will be run properly. That is not the
concern. That facility is not the concern. The concern is when they're out
in the streets and we have to think about that. What are we going to do about
these people when they're out in the streets?
Mayor Suarez: If somebody could assure you that in the new facility, it would
be absolutely prohibited for anyone to be out in the street in any way related
to that facility. I mean, it's not illegal for somebody to be out in the
street, you understand, people can be out in the street anytime they want.
But no one would be served by that facility who was just hanging around. They
would have to be a permanent or - not a permanent, but a temporary resident of
that facility, like a hotel.
Ms. Miller: Mayor Suarez...
Mayor Suarez: No?
Ms. Miller: This isn't going to happen. Brother Paul can't be responsible
for them when they go. We can't be responsible for them when they go.
They're still in the area. Thousands of them in the area. I think that's
all...
Mayor Suarez: Well, but the main incentive for them to be there is that
they're going to be fed or, or have a place to sleep if if they know that the
facility as he plans to restructure it, is going to be a live in facility.
Only those that are living there are accepted, they might not hang around
there. I don't - you know, I can't convince you of that for sure.
Mr. Dawkins: Well, what would get - what would make you think, sir, Mayor
Suarez, that the individuals who are served by Camillus House now, who know
the time it opens and know the time it closes, but yet they're on the streets
around it during the hours when it's closed, that they will not continue the
same habit at the new facility.
!Mayor Suarezc Yes, that's a good question.
Mr. Dawkins: I scan, you know, that's all, you know. Not that, as she said,
I know that - I mean, Brother Paul, I wish to God we could just do what we
have to do to help him to serve the people he's trying to serve. But, I just
have to ask that question.
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Mayor Suarez: Yes, no, that's true. And, and one possible thing that might
move these people out to different parts of the community where they can maybe
be served better, In the plan that I think you're going to tell us about to
feed people in the communities. But, even that I'm not telling you is
guaranteed to accomplish that.
Ms. Miller: Well, I'd like to have someone else have an opportunity, please.
Mayor Suarez: Yes, please. How many people wish to be heard? You understand
that you can just be part of an organization and sort of restate what the
other person said and may that you agree with them. OK, let's keep it to two
minutes. Give us your name and address and if you have anything that's been
already said, just say that you agree with it please so that we can go a
little quicker.
Mr. H. C. Wilson: Honorable Mr. Mayor and the City Commissioners, my name is
H. C. Wilson, 416 Northwest Sth Avenue. I'm the pastor of Trinity Christian
Methodist Episcopal Church located on the corner of Fifth Street and Fifth
Avenue in what is called Overtovn. And I thank you for this opportunity. My
problem is that, in trying to look at the thing of the Camillus House, that I
don't really understand the new concept. I understand that it's not a church.
I understand it's not a rescue mission and I understand, also, it's supposed
to be a hotel. And if it's going to be a hotel, I would like to see that
facility comply with all of the rules and regulations of any other hotel to
include competitive rates so that the clientele would be similar to all the
others, if it is a commercial hotel. Our major concern is what happens, you
know, later on. Living in the area myself, we see all day long we see people
just wandering around who perhaps may have stayed at Camillus House or may not
have. But, being right there at the river where I'm located, we feed a lot of
people, we give clothing to a lot of people, but, you know, we cannot control
where these people go and that's our problem with these people being there all
day. They spill over into Lummus Park or to another public areas and, you
know, because I'm convinced, being a sociologist myself, that you cannot
rehabilitate anybody in a week or two or three days.
Mayor Suarez: Let me tell you one thing too, if I may interrupt you, just for
a second. As long as we're talking about this, the city is proposing major,
major improvements to Lummus Park. That has got to be one of the worst
maintained parks in the city and we're....
Mr. Wilson: Yes, that's part of it. That's part of it and that's...
Mayor Suarez: Yes, I'm not going to say that's going to solve all of your
concerns, but at least one of them.
Mr. Vilson: Well, we, we certainly hope no. But, you know, we still have to
rid ourselves or do something about the persons that just wander around in
this area. And when a person don't have any employment, a person don't have
any visible means of support, a person's going to eat some kind of way. And,
even if I set a flower pot on my porch, it's taken. And these kind of things
are frightening.
Mayor Suarez: Let me ask a question about that. Walter, or someone from the
city manager's office, why is that park in such bad shape compared to the
other parks? I mean, it looks like it's abandoned, like there's been no one
there in - like it was after an atomic war or something.
Mr. Dawkins: Jack Bads has it.
Mr. Jack Bads (off mike): Which park?
Mayor Suarez: Lumosus Park.
Mr. Wilson: Lumm a Park.
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No. Lillian Sharps Lummus Park.
Mayor Suarez: Any particular - is there a thought that it's not a such used
park, or something? I see all the shuffleboard equipment and...
Mr. P1ercos but, just, just for the...
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Mayor Suarez: ... markings there and nobody's...
Mr. Pierce: Just for the commission's information, I don't know about
presently, but, you know, there's a major plan all mixed in with the River
Drive rebuilding in there to restructure that park and do something in there.
Mayor Suarez: Except we have most of the money for the river part but we
don't have most of the money for the park itself.
Mr. Pierce: No, the money to do the entrance there, I think, is already been
allocated; it's all part of that.
Mayor Suarez: OK, the little entrance - at least to make the park more
desirable...
Mr. Pierce: Yes, yes.
Mayor Suarez: But how much is allocated to that park in that eight million
dollar budget that we're working with? Do you remember, Jack?
Mr. Eads: No, sir, I don't remember right off hand, but I can go upstairs and
look it up fairly rapidly.
Mayor Suarez: OK, we'd better spend some major amounts of money there. Never
mind Virginia Key or any of these other ones we've been talking about. That's
one that really needs it.
Mr. Wilson: Mr. Mayor, one of the reasons that that park is not well used is
because of the presence of the derelicts. Where the old people used to walk
in the park and the people that live directly across the street from the park,
used to walk and sit in the park but now they've afraid because they - it's
occupied now as a home for the homeless.
Mayor Suarez: It's one of those things that even the way it looks, it
attracts people that don't have any place else to be. It isn't an attractive
park it all; for, you know, the neighbors.
Mr. Eads: That particular park is also part of an issue of a land swap, if
you will, with some of the property that's on the river front. Relocating, I
believe it's the Pioneers' Club back into Lummus Park and us recapturing that
river front property.
Mr. Wilson: Thank you, Mr. Mayor, that was what I would like to say. Thank
you.
Mayor Suarez: Thank you for your presentation.
Ms. Lillian Sharp: Excuse me. I'm Lillian Sharp and I live on Fourth Avenue
and Fourth Street in the seniors' complex. And where Brother Paul wants to
build his hotel that I can look right out my window or my door and look right
Into it. I have no objections of poor people because I'm poor myself. Only
thing, objections I have, I asked Brother Paul already, when he turn those
people out, where are they going when they leave there for a bathroom
facilities? There's no private bathrooms, no public bathrooms, on that
street. Where are those people going when they leave there? And I don't want
to look at them every time I walk out and they will be sleeping in the
elevator, under the stair wells, and everywhere also. And I have some seniors
here that live where I live and I'm sure they don't want that over there in
their neighborhood. I've asked Brother Paul, why can't he find somewhere also
to put them? He says he has no where also to put them at and I'm leaving it
up to the city, to the commissioners, to the Mayor, to help him find a place
for his people to go. I thank you.
Mayor Suarez: Thank you, Lilly, ma'am.
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Ms. Faye Greenwood: I'm Faye Greenwood and I own the property at 418
Northwest Fourth Street; one block from where they're wanting to put the
Camillus House. Why can't they put the Camillus House over around Twentieth
Street close to the Jackson Hospital, close to the vocational school. Now,
You have the auto agents there. You have property in there that you could put
then there and it wouldn't be right in everybodys' doorstep.
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Mayor Suarer: I think that's where Miami Rescue Mission is going there,
aren't they? I should know, I'm the chairman of their committee to raise the
funds. Thank you for your statement. Ma'am.
Ms. Bella Hadley: Me?
Mayor Suarez: Yes, proceed, give us your name and address; move the mike down
a little closer too.
Ms. Hadley: Thank you, thank you. My name is Bella Hadley and I live at
Northwest Fourth Street and Fourth Avenue also. And I'm not here to protest
because no matter where Camillus House will want to build, the people won't
want them there either. No matter where they go. And the same as the jails;
why don't they build a jail and the people that are homeless would go to jail
and have sentenced to fifteen or thirty days, at least they'll have shelter
over their head in fifteen to thirty days. They wouldn't want that either.
So, my own personal experience, my husband had left me and I was going to be
put out on the street. If I didn't have a mother and father, I would have
been a pregnant mother put out on the street - and my child that I had. And
I've seen, I'm eighty-three years old and I've seen a lot of homeless people
and there's a lot - twelve thousand homeless people in Dade County. Where are
they all going? There's no housing for them. But for the grace of God, I'd
probably be on the street and a whole lot of people that are - thank the Lord
for the housing urban development or else a lot of us wouldn't be in any
housing. But they don't think of that. There's twelve thousand homeless
people and many of them are Viet Nam veterans that nobody wants or anything.
And, also, I was down here in the fifties working with the ministering
friends. I was a supervisor - superintendent of the home for needy women and
we had one woman come in, she didn't drink or smoke or do anything. She had
lived with her sister and her husband and her sister's husband wanted to have
sex with her.
Mayor Suarez: Could you summarize and not get too much into that particular
case.
Ms. Hadley: She got out. All right. OK. It's just that a few words but I
want to tell you, she shop lifted in order to get in jail that she'd have
three meals a day and some place to sleep.
Mayor Suarez: OK, thank you Bella.
Ms. Hadley: And, I mean, I am against - I am for Camillus House moving there.
Mayor Suarez: OK.
No. Hadley: There's a police station. They'll be right in back of the police
station and I've been down to Camillus House.
Mayor Suarez: Thank you.
Ms. Hadley: And been through it and seen what they did and everything that
Brother Paul said at the meeting I had been to was the truth.
Mayor Suarez: OK, thank you, Belle.
Mrs. Kennedy: Mr. Mayor, let me just ask something.
Mayor Suarez: Madam Commissioner.
Mrs. Kennedy: Mr. City Attorney, correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think
that Brother Paul needs this commission's permission to build his hotel. Is
that correct?
Mr. Clark: That's what I was informed when the subject came up at the lee*
city coavmission. '
Mrs. Kennedy: That's what I remember.
Mayor Suarez: Go ahead, sir.
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Mr. LeRoy Collier: My name is LeRoy Collier. I live at 425 Northwest Sixth
Street. I'm here both as a private citizen and as a representative for
Southgate Villas Homeowners' Association.
Mayor Suarez: You're not compensated for your appearance by the homeowners?
Mr. Collier: No, I'm not. No. We don't rant Brother Paul in the area. I've
lived in Miami for six years now. When I first got here, there were very few
vagrants coming down Northwest Sixth Street. Within the past six months, the
traffic along that street is noticeable and it's sometimes crowded. My
question to Brother Paul, my question to the commission; why, if you're saying
you're going to build the area, allow another organization to come in who will
really tear it down the area. Where are those bums going to go?
Mayor Suarez: Thank you for your presentation.
Ms. Rosa Mary Dalton: My name is Rosa Mary Dalton. I live at Fourth Street
and Fourth Avenue in the senior citizens. We already have an over flux of the
homeless in the Lummus Park sleeping under our steps. We have a problem with
prostitutes. So what are we going to do if we get all of these homeless over
there and they have nowhere to go in the daytime? That's it, thank you.
Mayor Suarez: Thank you, ma'am. Yes, sir.
Mr. Willie Williams: My name is Willie Williams and I decided to come here at
the last moment. I have a lot of feelings about this issue. I am a recipient
of what Camillus House can do for someone who has no one else to turn to. And
I guess, in a sense, I'm one of those bums. I also was on the other side. I
lived on Fourth Avenue and Fourth Street in the sixties and the seventies when
I was well employed and very well intact emotionally and financially.
Mayor Suarez: You don't have to worry too much about being called a bum,
because we get called that all the time right around here, you know.
Mr. Williams: Also, when I was working and producing and paying my rent and
stuff, the same problem existed in that same area - in that same area of
Northwest Fourth Avenue and Fourth Street. However, that's not my concern.
My concern is this: there are many of us out there - I am also a Viet Nam
veteran - and I also went through the trials and tribulations of trying to get
through our social services and our red tape. And, believe you me, it's not
easy. It's good on paper; it's very good theoretically. And it's not easy
getting help. And it's also not easy getting help from Camillus House because
there are so many of us. And we have a tendency to migrate around the labor
pools so that we can try and make a few dollars every day, so this is where we
were basically when we're out on the street have a tendency to be to try to be
used and abused by these people. Now, somebody has to care about us because
we are here and mostly, through our own efforts, we are in the condition that
we are in but there are many of us that are trying to come out of this
condition. We need someone to help us, to guide us, and to give us an
alternative. At present, the only alternative that we have is Camillus House.
The Salvation Army charges $4.00. In order to obtain this $4.00, there are
many of us, if you will pass by the many labor pools that are located on Miami
Avenue, you will see us sitting there waiting in order to go out and do eight
hours of work for $26.60. Camillus House is the only option that I am aware
of that one can get oneself together and try to get back into this community.
Now we have to be somewhere. Surely, you're not going to allow us to go into
Coral Gables.
Mayor Suarez: There's no immediate plans of that, but you never know.
Mr. Henry Givens: Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Suarez: Henry.
Mr. Givens: Members of the Commission. My name is Henry Givens, 1495
Northwest Third Avenue. Mr. !Mayor, I think one of the issues that should be
considered here is the economic impact on those of us who have invested in
that community down through the years. I think you might have to understand
the fact that during the years when we had urban renewal, the years that we
had the civil disturbances in Overtown, the real estate value has continued to
drop. A good example of that might be that, according to the appraisers of
the city of Miami, the tract of land that we have at Third Avenue across from
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St. John's Baptist Church, we paid sixty thousand dollars for that land five
years ago. The city is now offering us fifty two thousand, which is eight
thousand dollars less. Uhat you are - what is happening here is this - if
this entity is allowed to relocate and that community is certainly, is
certainly not help those of us who have invested and those of us who have
suffered down through the years. i think that this commission would simply
look back at history, there's no way on this earth that you would add another
burden to those persons who have invested in that community in Overtown. You
certainly would be doing all of us an injustice. Thank you.
Mayor Suarez: Thank you for your statement.
Pedro Jose Guerra, M. D.: Hi, my name is Pedro Jose Guerra. I'm a physician.
I'm the chief medical resident at Jackson, I work with...
Mayor Suarez: You'll have to get a little closer to the mike.
Dr. Guerra: I work with Brother Paul at the ...
Mayor Suarez: Give us an address.
Dr. Guerra: 1223 Capri Street, Coral Gables. OK. But I'm employed. I work
with Brother Paul in the city. I also work at Jackson so we do see that
population both places. The reason I wanted to speak was, first of all, one
of the points that I think we're missing here in the city is that we aren't
going to get rid of this population. I mean, just looking at it logically, if
you're homeless, Albany is not the place to be. You're going to go as far
south as possible. If you think we have a problem in Miami, go to L. A., they
have thirty-five thousand homeless there. And the only way we're going to
deal with this problem is by approaching it and dealing with it properly. By
moving this out of downtown, you're not going to move the homeless out of
downtown, I guarantee you. There's a lot of tubby holes, a lot of buildings
and that's where they're going to stay because they like to be sheltered from
the light. They don't like the car lights and it - these people just don't
like to go out at night either, they could tell you. The reason that I'm
Involved with Brother Paul is we saw the problem at Jackson Memorial Hospital
and they weren't coming to us until they were almost dead. So we decided to
go out to them. And this is a very approachable population and it's also a
population that is actually very employable in this city as can attest by some
people. There are certain problems. If we don't give them a shelter, a place
to sleep, or a place to shower, I don't think anybody is going to employ them
in this city. Nobody - if anybody here spends four days on the streets
without a shower, I guarantee you, that you all that are speaking would not
give them a chance to work. OK? And, the other problem is the reason that
these people are around there is that we really have very little help for
them. Brother Paul can only put up sixty per night. And if we're estimating
thousands, as you all are saying, the conservative estimate is as low as
twelve hundred and others as high as ten thousands, then we do have a problem
of quite a magnitude here. And it's one that we can resolve if we work
together with it. By moving them out of downtown, we aren't going to resolve
Lt. We aren't going to take care of that problem because they're going to
stay there and it's going to make it worse for you all with your businesses.
And I can guarantee you that. And the reason that you've seen a bigger influx
now is perhaps because now the Miami people are going downtown and they are
looking around whereas before, perhaps two years ago, I wouldn't go downtown,
there was nothing to go down there for. And I don't think the problem is
going to be with Bayside either. I think you're a lot closer to Bayside now
than before. I'm not sure where the locations, but I don't see any problem at
Bayside and I don't see any problem anywhere with this, there just In the same
type of people that we are, just somebody that's had a bad break somewhere
along the line and I think it's our responsibility as citizens, and even as
human beings, just to take care of them.
Mr. Isaac Mays: My name is Isaac Mays. I own some property at 342 V. Fourth
Avenue. I'd like to ask you a question. Vhy can't Brother Paul remain where
he In now? What is the reason? Vhy can't he build in the land that he has
now? If you could answer that, Mr. Mayor.
Mayor !Suarez: Vell, I don't run his operation, you know. You'd have to ask
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Mr. Mays: OK. Has he chosen to move to the area or is it because of
pressure?
Mayor Suarez: No, the - in fairness, the city has been trying to buy the - or
condemn the property where he now is, that's true.
Mr. Dawkins: Let me ask the question - let me answer the question for your,
sir. The city of Miami decided to develop around where Brother Paul is, OK?
At that time, Brother Paul and I both stated that it was a needed service and
that it should stay right where it is. And I said it then and I say it now.
It should stay where it is. But the powers that be decided that they did not
want these people wandering around downtown so, therefore, let's shove them
off on anybody else who will accept them, OK? So, therefore, in order to
service the clientele that he had, now Brother Paul is satisfied where he is,
Brother Paul will stay there and build what he wants there. But we want, and
that's - we, the city fathers will not permit it. So, therefore, Brother Paul
is forced to scrounge around, for the lack of a better word, and attempt to
find some place to serve his clientele. Now, I feel that if the city of Miami
does not want Brother Paul where he is, then the citizens have a right not to
want him where where he has - where he's supposed to go. Now, that doesn't
solve the problem, but I just - that's the - that's what I can tell you, sir.
Mr. Mays: The question that I have is, you're going to move Camillus House
four blocks or five blocks vest, OK, it's not going to solve the problem. And
it's just going to go from a business district where people work from nine to
five, are gone at night, are not concerned with Camillus House and you're
going to put it in a residential area where people live with their children,
elderly people who don't want to be associated with the transients because - I
am not saying the homeless are bad, OK, but they are transients. And with
transients comes an increase of crime. Because they can get in and out just
as fast. We don't want them in our community. We're not saying that what he
proposes is wrong, but overflow, the result, will hurt us. They're going to
go into Lummus Park. They're going to go and stay at the river. He - right
now, he takes a hose and he squirts them and he takes them out of his area.
But where are they going - where do they go? The lots that are - the lots
that are vacant over there where they're going to build the parking. If you
go by there; if you drive by there, they have - they built their own little
shacks. They're just sitting there. Does the police do anything about it?
No. Is the police going to do anything about it when they come over there?
It's only half a way - half a block away from the police station. But, are
they going to do anything?
Mayor Suarez: Thank you for your statement. OK, we're going to wrap this up.
Mr. Norman Paul Ramon: My name is Norman Paul Ramon. I live at 621 Northeast
32nd Street. I am a previous resident of Camillus House. I have been here in
Miami six months. When I first got down here, I was spending my nights in
Bicentennial Park. Night after night sitting there; nowhere to go, nothing to
do. I found Camillus House. I vent there. Brother Paul offered me to come
in. I came in there. They gave me shelter, food, clothing and helped me
reestablish myself and right now I do have a job. I run two restaurants and I
have a security job at night where, without Camillus House, I'd be still on
the street. For the simple reason, without a shover, without somewhere to go,
and someone to help you, you cannot get help and as far as being a transient,
I'd been on the road thirteen months before I got here to Miami. I've never
had no hard time finding a job in any other state but when I got down here, I
don't speak Spanish and I had the hardest time finding a job down here. This
man here came, gave me the chance to get myself together. I got myself
together and while I was out there on the street, as f ar as the other
gentleman who stated, along with transients, comes crime, I'm sorry he's
wrong. The only crime that's out there right now and creating the crime is
the drug problem in Overtown which I don't see nothing being done about and
I've been in - through Overtown and spent my nights in Overtown more than
once. Thank you.
Mayor Suarez: OK.
Mark Trapp, Req.: One, one quick point, I just...
Mayor Suarez: I could have sworn I've seen you on another case, counselor.
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Mr. Trapp: Could be, but this one's less hopeless, maybe. I don't know if
you know this one, I...
Mayor Suarez: Houseboats.
Mr. Trapp: Let me emphasize this one, now.
Mayor Suarez: Houseboats, that's the one, OK.
Mr. Trapp: Did you - incidentally, at the last...
Mayor Suarers No, no, no, no. I'm sorry I brought it up, go ahead, tell
me...
Mr. Trapps Don't go off on it?
Mr. Dawkins% Give a name. Give a name.
Mayor Suarez: No, no, no, no, no, no.
Mr. Trapp: OK, but, but...
Mayor Suarez: Nothing on houseboats.
Mrs. Kennedy: That's not on the agenda.
Mr. Trapp: Oh, OK.
Mayor Suarez: Just tell me about what it is you're going to tell me about
Camillus House.
Mr. Trapp: I'll bridge that one later. I don't know if you've heard this
one, but there's a fellow and he dies and he goes to heaven and day after day
in heaven the - a table is set and he's served a little bit of lettuce. And
then finally he says to Brother Peter up in heaven, or St. Peter, or somebody
like that, I see down there...
Mayor Suarez: Brother Paul.
Mr. Trapp: Brother Paul, yes. I see down there, you know, he looks down and
says, Oh, an exclusive table, right, you know, so finally he says eventually,
he says, you know, why night after night are only me and St. Peter up in
heaven and he says, I look down there and I see there's lots of people and
they're all doing the things I always wanted to do all my life. And the punch
line is, it's a very exclusive club up here. So, the other day - you didn't
understand that, huh? I'm not a comedian. So the other day I vas...
Mayor Suarez: Are you being paid for your appearance today?
Mr. Trapp: I vas reading in Dante's...
Mayor Suarez: You're not being paid for your appearance today, are you?
Mr. Trapp: ... The Inferno. I'm here...
Mayor Suarez: Voluntary?
Mr. Trapp: ... not voluntarily. I'm here representing some...
Mayor Suarez: You are being paid for your appearance here today?
Mr. Trapp: Not - in so many words. Do you - do you under...
Mrs. Kennedy: He hasn't negotiated yet.
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Mr. Trapp: See, the point I'ss making to simply this.
Mrs. Kennedy: Have you negotiated a good contract for yourself?
Mr. Trapp No, the point I'm making to simply this...
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Mayor Suarez: No, no, if you are paid, you have to register. I presume
you're not from the argument so far. But go ahead.
Mrs. Kennedy: You have to register.
Mr. Trapps Not, not, not paid. Is - well, I was looking the other day in
Dante's Inferno and they mentioned Camillus - something Camillus. Camillus
being right there in hell so I want to emphasize the fact that whatever the
prospective idea is about the new Camillus House, I work on Ninth Street and
Second Avenue. I've had my car vandalized a couple of times. I caught
somebody stealing things from my car the other day and I want to emphasize, in
no uncertain terms, it's very unlikely that when the people from Camillus
House would be moved over to these older peoples' neighborhood, that they
wouldn't be the victim of similar abuse. Which is an emphasized point now, so
thank you and...
Mayor Suarez: Thank you, counselor. OK.
Mr. Rodger Soman: My name is Rodger Soman. I live at 3815 Main Highway in
Coconut Grove. I'm a volunteer at Camillus House. I look around this room
and I see all transients. In God's world, we're all transients and I wish
that everybody would recognize the fact. We're all put here for a very brief
period of time and it's time that we learn to have some compassion and have
some feeling and have some understanding and have some love for our fellow
man, brothers, and sisters. Our city is not unusual. I just returned from a
business trip to New York where I saw homeless people sleeping in very chic
neighborhoods, Park Avenue, Madison Avenue, Fifth Avenue doorways, side street
doorways in the Silk Stocking District. To see the real estate owners in the
community turn out as they have today and vent their feelings about what
happens to real estate values and try to put the rap on Brother Paul and the
unfortunate people who he tries to serve at Camillus House, I think is
terribly unfair. I appeal to all of you in this room to open your hearts to
Brother Paul and to the clientele of Camillus House. Show some compassion,
show some love, show some understanding and this community would be one heck
of a better place to live in. Thank you, Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Suarez: Thank you for your statement. Please.
Mr. Danny Johnson: Yes, how you doing, Mr. Mayor. I really wanted to address
my comments to Mr. Dawkins who...
Mayor Suarez: Can you put your name and address in the record, please.
Mr. Johnson: My name is Danny Johnson, Jefferson Avenue on Miami Beach. And
I wanted to address my comments, really, to Mr. Dawkins. I had became ill
sometime a couple of years back and I have asthma very bad and I couldn't work
and I couldn't hold down a job for too long. Anyway, I went to a number of
social service agencies and pretty much the whole run around= you're a young
man, you're supposed to do this and you have your doctor's note but this
doesn't mean anything, we don't have any place to put you, we can put you
here, we can put you there. Anyway, I called Mr. Dawkins and I pretty much
chased him around. Actually, that's what brought me into downtown Miami, was
trying to get some help. He was too busy for months. No one could tell me
anything. Go here, go there, this great big run around. This is in response
to his thing about why people hanging out around Camillus House. Well,
anyway, after being up for about four days with no sleep and things like that,
I went and it was about ten o'clock at night and I went to the Salvation Army.
Anyway, they charged and had told me about... if I'd call Camillus House. And
I went to the Camillus House. It was roughly about ten and I got in and
everything was OK. That's roughly the reason why a lot of people hang around
as to the way it operates right now was because the brothers begin work at
five o'clock in the morning and they don't and until eleven, twelve o'clock at
night. I went in to Overtown, not because the Camillus House was there, but
because it was easier for me to survive around people who were doing pretty
much the same thing that I was doing - surviving. That's what brought we into
the Overtown area. I didn't mean really to put a damper on your economically
or anything like that, but its just that that's where everyone was at that
particular time. And I didn't really see myself as being really a bum. I was
just in a pretty bad predicament and I knew that there wouldn't be mch time
once I get help before I could have a suit to wear like yours. but I do want
to say that it's not the Camillus House and it's functions that brings people
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into an area. it's the lack of availability for help for people who cannot
get it during the regular course of the day. Thank you.
Mayor Suarez: OK, thank you for your remarks. I don't think any of the
comments here are made personally at anyone, really.
Mr. Carlos Batista: Carlos Batista from the Downtown Miami Business
Association. Let me start by saying that, to me personally, I am in a very
difficult position in that I have to represent a position that, although I
believe on at the same time I have a lot of concern and a lot of interest in
the particular issue at hand. Margaret Miller came to the board of directors
at the Downtown Miami Business Association because she represented the
neighborhood and the elderly in that neighborhood and wanted our opinion. The
board voted unanimously stating that the location of Lummus neighborhood, was
not a desirable location as far as the Downtown Miami Business Association is
concerned. This is no way, whatsoever, in any matter, shape, or form isn't a
statement on the project itself. The project, that kind of work, definitely
needs to be done. It's very, very necessary. The city should make a very
strong effort to assist and to help and to really focus on the issue and begin
to work with them and begin to help it. The only issue that I am talking
about here is the location. I would like to bring your attention to the page
number five on the handouts, what we gave to all the commissioners. On the
page number five refers to a survey that was undertaken by students of
Community College. A hundred and ninety responses were gathered. There were
three questions that were open ended questions. People were asked the first
questions, what do you like the most about downtown Miami? The second is,
what do you like the least about downtown Miami? The third one was, what
would you change if you had a chance? Of the responses, parking was the issue
that was the most disliked and there were 103 responses. The second one,
there were sixty responses, had to do with the derelicts, the homeless, the
bums, whatever word they were using. These are responses by the people in
downtown, in this real downtown; one out of three persons recognized that as a
problem in downtown, a reason why they may not come. We're working very hard
Improving, in uplifting downtown. In no way do we want to put the project
down or say it's unneeded. It definitely is needed. We're saying that
location may not be a successful location either for the project itself or
from the commerce in downtown.
Mayor Suarez: Of the three points you make by the way, the one on the number
_ of paragraphs, you have insured the best full service facility possible be
built, I think it's going to be a full service facility if it is built at all.
Number two, you want to eliminate those waiting outside the facility day and
night and presumably that would also be part of the effort and the way it's
envisioned. The last one, increased police efforts on a regular basis. Well,
you know, we're - I can't guarantee that. We're doing the best we can every
place in the city. If we can't have a good police presence right next to the
police station, the main police station, we're really in trouble, and
that's...
Mr. Batista: Do you realize, Mayor Suarez, the police issue is not just
because of that one. I mean, we do need police in downtown. Again, our point
is, or my personal point is, the city should do the most to really address the
issue and help it as much as it can because it's not only the city of Miami,
It's a nationwide issue.
Mayor Suarez: OK, unless someone also wants to speak on this issue, I'd like
to go through the agenda, all the other items. There's no action requested of
us tonight on this so no one will be taken but all of the comments and
objections are noted. Sir.
Mr. Carl Moon Mullins: Mr. Mayor, I came down here strictly on an observation
basis tonight. My name is Mullins, Carl Moon Mullins. I reside at 339 - 439
Northwest Fourth Avenue. I had no intention of speaking tonight. I just feel
that is so much was left out this, I don't think we really related our real
intent to you. We have been abused, misused, I've been on that corner for
twenty-five years. We are the only surviving black establishment that's self
supporting. That in the position our potentials to hire as many as twenty
people. We have hired this many at one time. We have six licensed business.
We pay the city every year taxes, everything. When you sent out that garbage
tax fee for $150 per unit, it hit us six times. All right, what we're saying,
we took it from the early seventy - the early sixties, the abuse. We took it
from urban renewal, we took it from I-95, we took it with the project you put
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in last year. We took it through three riots. We took it through the
contention - the concentration type account they put for the Marielitos over
there under the bridge. We have had it up to here. We look at this city and
we love it. We have survived nicely here. We just can't deal with the fact
that this establishment keep insisting on shoving us, all and everything that
appeared to be undesirable. We hope and trust that we can get some leadership
from this commission. I'm going to lay the chips where I see them at. I have
donated to Brother Paul more times than I care to remember. I own a hotel.
He'll be my competitor which I can deal with because I expect him to abide by
the hotel rules and regulations the same as I do as set down by the - by
Tallahassee. I have contributed to him many times. That's not my problem.
What he do; I deal with twenty five, thirty percent of his clientele now.
They visit my establishment on a rotating basis.
Mayor Suarez: Which is that? What's the address of it because I want to
visit.
Mr. Mullins: We are on the corner of Fourth Avenue and Fifth Street. Our
title - working title is Moon Enterprises. We cannot digest any more. If we
can't get any - some, some constructive leadership from this commission, then
we'll go into litigation as long as time will take. Thank you.
Mayor Suarez: So we are forewarned. OK. Very last one. We've got a few
items to go, some people have been waiting all day here and a lot of
Commissioners that want to leave at 8:00 p.m., because everyone...
Mr. Mario Carta: It is very short, what I have to say. My name is Mario
Carta. I am a property owner at 342 N.W. 4th Avenue, and I just have one
thing to say. The picture that Brother Paul has tried to paint today with the
person that he had speaking, you would lead us to believe that these people
are just down and out and they just need a meal and a place to stay. I am a
police officer in the City of Miami and I happen to know that the type of
people that frequent the Camillus House, a lot of them are mental patients
that need to be institutionalized. A lot of them are criminals, drug addicts
and alcoholics and these type of people are going to affect the elderly people
In that neighborhood drastically.
Mayor Suarez: Thank you, officer.
Mr. Carta: Thank you.
Mr. Carollo: Excuse me, officer, can you come up for a second, please? I am
curious about something. Do you work in the area?
Mr. Carta: Yes, I do. Well, not right now, sir.
Mr. Carollo: Have you worked in the area?
Mr. Carta: No, I don't.
Mr. Carollo: You have worked in the area in the past.
Mr. Carta: Ten, sir.
Mr. Carollo: Well, I've noticed in the last... I don't know, three, four
months or so, particularly the last two months since Bayside opened, that all
of a sudden in the entrance and exit, coming to Biscayne Boulevard and
Bayside, from I-95, that we have in the corners three and four males, most of
them young mules that insist in washing the windows of vehicles, and if they
run particularly, to a vehicle that is either a woman, an elderly person, or
somebody who seems weak and going to be afraid of their own shadow and they
try to intimate them, so that the person has to purposely tip them for getting
a little bit of water squirted into their windshield. Now, I don't know if
these individuals have anything to do with what we are discussing here or not.
It might, or might not whatsoever, but I am curious to know 4f you've observed
that during the times that maybe you have passed by that area, or not.
Mr. Carta: I am: not familiar with that problem at all. I can't may.
Mr. Carollo: Well, I think that we will handle that at another time, with the
Police Chief, but it in getting to the point that it Is hurting the image of
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the City tremendously, because you have got young males out there, and they
are purposely intimidating women, the elderly, the weak and trying to extort
money from them •o that they can squirt a little bit of water on their car
windows and people are going to end up being scared to go on into downtown
Miami, Bayside, coming off of that exit ramp, or those that might go to
layside, the Omni, and Biscayne Boulevard, that part of it, are going to be
petrified and not come back, because when they go up the ramp and they get
stuck with a red light, they are a target. I just wanted to bring that out
and I was curious if you had any information on it, since you had worked in
the area in the past. I appreciate it.
Mr. Carta: You are welcome.
NOTE FOR THE RECORD: No one appeared on item 55.
59. ALLOCATE $2,500 FOR RENTAL OF MARINE STADIUM FOR VICTORIA GILDRED
FOUNDATION CONCERT.
Mayor Suarez: Item 57, Bill Albornoz, I know you have been here. Marine
Stadium and in -kind services.
Mr. Bill Albornoz: Good evening ladies and gentlemen, my name is Bill
Albornoz, I represent the Victoria Gildred Foundation. My address is 814 Ponce
de Leon Boulevard, Suite 505, Coral Gables. The reason I'm here is that Santa
Fe Chamber Music Festival is having a series of free concerts throughout the
United States, in Los Angeles, San Diego, Miami, Washington and New York. The
Gildred Foundation has been asked to host the Miami Concert, which is
September 5th, and we would like to give at Miami Marine Stadium. It's going
to be a free concert. We are not making any money out of it, and we would like
to get a waiver of all the fees in relation to the concert.
Mayor Suarez: What does it benefit, again?... I'm sorry.
Mrs. Kennedy: Yes, where are the proceeds going from?
Mayor Suarez% What does it benefit? ... the guild or foundation?
Mr. Albornoz: Well, basically it is going to be a free concert, open to the
public.
Mayor Suarez: What does it benefit? What does the foundation do?
Mr. Albornoz: Well, it doesn't benefit the foundation itself. The foundation
Is merely hosting the event here.
Mrs. Kennedy: Where are the proceeds going?
Mr. Albornoz: There is no charge. We are not going to charge anything. It is
going to be a concert that is open to the public.
Mayor Suarez: Well, what is the principal reason for the foundation, though,
like I said.
Mr. Albornoz: Well, no, the foundation is a foundation set up for health and
rehabilitative services and programs between Miami and South America and it
has different programs. I can let Mrs. Gildred explain more about the.
programs in detail, but really, the event has nothing to do An terns of being
a fund raising event for the foundation. The foundation is...
Mayor Suarez: How s:any people do you expect that will attend the function?
Mr. Albornozi About 5,000.
Mr. Carollo: What is it going to cost the City of Miami and in -kind services?
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Mr. Albornozs The figure I got from Mrs. Logan is $7,645, which I believe
includes everything.
Mr. Dawkins: What is the Manager's recommendation?
Mrs. Kennedys Mr. Manager, do you recommend this?
Mr. Odio: Well, we are recommending denial of funding. We do have a non -
funding policy and we have no background about this organization whatsoever...
information...
Mr. Albornoz: Well, I can have...
Mrs. Kennedys How long have you been in existence?
Mr. Odio: They are also based in Miami Beach.
Mr. Albornozs The foundation has been in existence about ten years. I can
let Mrs. Giidred explain to you more about the foundation and its programs.
Mr. Odio: They are based in Miami Beach also.
Mrs. Gildred: The foundation is registered with the State of Florida, it is a
nonprofit organization, charitable organization. In the past we devoted all
our efforts to programs for health and education between the University of
Miami, F.I.U., Georgetown University in Washington and Latin America,
conducting international symposiums... 18 programs, very important programs
that the foundation had carried out. We thought it was about time for the
foundation to do something locally for the homeless, and when the Marquis
Antonio de Portago visited me in Miami and asked me if I could help him put up
this concert for the public, enhancing the Hispanic music at the semi-
classical level, so that the American community and the Hispanic community
will get to know that type of music, I suggested if you would let me use
Astor-Piazzola, who is the concert man and his group to benefit the homeless.
It is a coincidence that I found the homeless here.
Mayor Suarez: Not only that, they're having a major concert, which we have
agreed to sponsor, participate in at the Orange Bowl.
Mrs. Giidred: Oh, really. So, I suggested that if we...
Mayor Suarez: Different kind of music, probably, but...
Mrs. Giidred: Yes, yes... that if we were going to help them set up the
concert here in Miami...
Mayor Suarez: Excuse me, how much is the actual rent, if we were to waive
that?
Mrs. Gildreds I think everything comes to $7,000, but they didn't break it
down for me. They...
Mayor Suarers No, no, that is not the question. OK, that's what I am trying
to do, if you just give me a second.
Mrs. Gildreds ... did not break it down for me.
Mr. Odio: $2,500.
Mayor Suarez: I have no problem waiving the rent if we are not going to use
the facility for something else that day, if any Commissioner wants to move
that.
Mrs. Gildreds You don't have anything.
Mrs. Kennedy: Have you checked on the date, Mr. Manager?
Mrs. Giidred: Yes.
!Mrs. Kennedy: OK, I...
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Mr. Odio: The day is open.
Mr. Carollo: If it is waiving the rent and the day is open, I will make a
motion to approve that, but as far as the in -kind service, that's a different
story, that is money coming directly from us.
Mrs. Kennedy: I'll second the waiver of rent.
Mayor Suarez: And you know, from the figures you gave us, if you ask everyone
to contribute, or pay $1.00, you will be able to pay for it, Bill.
Mrs. Gildred: The thing In, we are planning to have a gala...
Mayor Suarez: I can't imagine people not...
Mrs. Kennedy: Let me ask you something else. Have you approached Miami
Beach? I notice it was your address... the Miami Beach City Commission?
Mrs. Gildred: No, I haven't because since the Marine Stadium belongs to the
City of Miami. I didn't go to the Miami Beach Commissioners, no.
Mrs. Kennedy: But, this is a Beach organization, maybe they can give you...
Mrs. Gildred: Well, it is not a Beach organization It is for the Miami
downtown homeless. In fact, I had contacted Brother Paul in the past, and I
told him I was very interested in setting up a program of rehabilitation for
the homeless, so that these...
Mayor Suarez: But, you are not going to raise money this particular function,
you said.
Mrs. Gildred: No, no, at a later date, September 18th, we have scheduled to
have a gala, which I am organizing for that purpose. But, the concert is
simply to give the people of Miami another taste of the Hispanic music and is
the first of the commemorative events that we will have conducive to the
celebrations of Christopher Columbus, 1992, yes.
Mayor Suarez: Very good. Well, I sense that the Commission will waive the
rent and ask you to pay for the services. I think we have that in the form of
a motion?
Mrs. Kennedy: We have a motion and a second.
Mayor Suarez: And a second. Any discussion? Call the...
Mr. Carollo: Yes, waive the fee, we are talking about.
Mrs. Gildred: Do I understand that then we will have to charge the entrance
of the concert?
Mr. Carollo: No, what we are doing, is we are waiving the fee of the stadium.
Mrs. Gildred: Oh.
Mr. Carollo: But, the in -kind service that you might need, like maybe police
officers...
Mrs. Gildred: Yes.
Mr. Carollo: ...or some fire, medics, and cleanup, you will be responsible
for that.
Mrs. Gildreds And how such will that be?
Mayor Suarez: Well so far, you have an estimate of approximately $5,000 and
you could probably get that reduced if you work with the Administration to
provide your own internal security group over there.
Mr. Carollos What we could do if you like, I could assign to you one member
of my staff to sit down with the Police and Fire Department and the Sanitation
Department and try to get it down to the least amount as possible.
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Mrs. Gildred: All right. All right, thank you very much.
Mayor Suarez: Particularly if you are well organized and you work with the
Commissioner's office, you can get reduced the amount that we estimate that
you will used there by way of security and cleanup.
Mrs. Gildred: All right, thank you very much.
Mayor Suarers OK, there is a notion and a second. Call the roil.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Carollo, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 87-575
A RESOLUTION ALLOCATING AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $2,500
FROM SPECIAL PROGRAMS AND ACCOUNTS, CONTINGENT FOND, TO
COVER THE COST OF RENTAL OF THE MIAMI MARINE STADIUM FOR A
FREE CONCERT TO BE PRESENTED BY THE VICTORIA GILDRED
FOUNDATION ON SEPTEMBER 5, 1987, AT SAID STADIUM; SUBJECT
TO AND CONTINGENT UPON COMPLIANCE WITH SUCH CONDITIONS AND
LIMITATIONS AS MAY BE PRESCRIBED BY THE CITY OF MIAMI,
INCLUDING RECEIPT OF PAYMENT FOR ALL CITY SERVICES AND
FEE REQUIRED FOR SAID EVENT.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here
and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Kennedy, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
DURING ROLL CALL:
Mr. Carollos While voting yes, I would like to say that while the
organization might have its main office in Miami Beach, it is a County -vide,
City-wide, organization that has done a tremendous and fabulous job in helping
the needy of this community. I vote yes.
Mr. Albornoz: Thank you very much.
Mrs. Gildred: Thank you.
60. DEFER PROPOSAL FROM DINNER KEY ANCHORAGE ASSOCIATION.
Mayor Suarez: Item 62, Dinner Key Anchorage, present proposal.
Mr. Howard Sutter: Mr. Mayor, Commissioners, I am Howard Sutter, I am an
attorney representing Dinner Key Anchorage Association. I have offices at
1500 San Raw, Number 215, in Coral Gables. I an going to do something a
little bit unusual as a lawyer, not talk to you very such.
Mrs. Kennedy: Are you registered?
Mr. Sutter: Yes, I on, and I am being paid.
Mayor Suarez: Do you want to move the mike a little closer to your mouth.
Mr. Sutter: I as here primarily to answer questions. Mr. Bob Davis is going
to make most of the presentation. I wanted to draw attention to two points,
part of which may be stressed by his a little bit later on. One, is the part
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of our proposal which is to provide for a services contract for those people
in the anchorage area. Also concludes the establishment of a privately
maintained channel. The purpose of that part of the proposal, is to try to
alleviate some of the problems of traffic in and out of the southern mouth of
the anchorage area and the inside harbors. The second... that is not being...
we are discussing that, by the way with various interested business parties,
Mr. Albritten, the Sailing Club, and any other interested parties, we welcome
suggestions and comments on the establishment of that particular channel. We
will make the application to the Coast Guard as soon as we talk to those
people and have gotten their input. The other item that I wanted to stress is
that this is a very old issue for the City. This issue dates from 1945, and of
recent vintage, Mr. Givens standing over they're grinning, is absolutely
correct if he is thinking, "I've been working on it real hard too," so, we
have had a lot of help from the Waterfront Board, and we expect and welcome
more of that, by the way, but I couldn't be any more eloquent than any of
those people who would say that it has taken a very long time by pointing out
that nothing has yet ever been accomplished and therefore, we are trying to
take some step that will take care of that; and with that, I will be ready to
answer any questions, whatever, and Mr. Davis.
Mayor Suarez: Counselor, is your last name spelled, Sutter, S-u-t-t-e-r?
Mr. Sutter: That's correct.
Mayor Suarez: OK, because we don't show you on the master list as having
registered, so unless you did it in the last couple of days, or the last
couple of hours...
Mr. Sutter: Today.
Mayor Suarez: OK, that is probably why. Let me introduce... are these part
of your presentation, all these cards that we have received from the Anchorage
Association?
Capt. Robert Davis: Those have come in from people in the general public who
have expressed certain support for us.
Mayor Suarez: OK, do you want these in the record, as part of the
presentation?
Capt. Davis: That is fine, yes, sir.
Mayor Suarez: So ordered.
Mrs. Kennedy: Point of clarification. Are these the boats docked out there
that don't pay any rent, right?
Mr. Sutter: That is correct.
Capt. Davis: That, actually, is the discussion.
Mrs. Kennedy: That's what I thought.
Capt. Davis: That's the point of discussion. Actually, I've been sitting
here for several hours and it occurred to me that there might be an
interesting introduction to this. We are probably the only people who came
here tonight who are not looking for money.
Mrs. Kennedy: Are we looking for money from you?
Capt. Davis: Actually, we are here to bring some money, how about that?
Mayor Suarez: That's what we want to hear. Give us your name and address too,
if you haven't done already.
Capt. Davis: Captain Robert Davis, I live on my vessel in the Dinner Key
Anchorage area. The proposal we are bringing before you tonight is not a
problem.
Mayor Suares: How do we correspond with you?
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Capt, Davis: 2990 South Sayshore Drive. Rather, what we are trying to
present is a solution to a problem that is 42 years old. It was an
interesting thing, in doing all the research for this, and researching the
background, I found an interesting quote from Will Rogers from right in this
building, where he stated that Miami is the jumping off place for the rest of
the world, and that is even more true today. Boaters need, in fact, must have
a place to start from or a place to which to retire. The Anchorage has been
such a place, even before there was a Miami. When the City acquired Dinner
Key basin, there were great plans and promises to provide for the citizens a
great water orientated recreational commercial area. In 1945 the City
Planning Board endorsed "A waterfront park with recreational facilities for
Miamians and a safe anchorage for yachtmen." In 1951, improvement or master
plans were started, but they still included dockage and anchorage. As quoted,
"Dinner Key Marina, the ultimate in protection for visiting boats is provided
by mole islands which includes docks and anchorage." A 1954 Miami Tourist
Guide, while extolling the virtues of Dinner Key and the bay states, "No
harbor fee and no charge for an anchorage." Then came the plans for the
development of Dinner Key. In 1956 a study report was quoted as saying, "The
expansion plan for Dinner Key is feasible and will stimulate business for
marine facilities," and that is absolutely true, in fact, many of the people
who currently reside in the Anchorage, or who come and go from the Anchorage,
while touring here and in the Bahamas, either work for the Marine Industry, or
certainly bring work to it. "Dinner Key expansion included the mole south of
the present harbor, will be relocated to provide for more offshore moorings."
The promise was repeated again...
Mayor Suarez: Can I suggest to you that maybe you ought to give us the
principal element to the proposal? I know that you intend to keep the islands
clean, and you already have made great improvements in the islands, because I
see them right outside of the window there and they look totally clean to me
for the first time since I have been around here. I know that you plan to
have some sort of form of voluntary payment, if you want to call it that, by
way of help to defray the cost of the use of our facility, because
undoubtedly, some of the members of the Anchorage use them, whether they claim
that they go someplace else or not, I am sure some do. Can you give us an
Idea of what percentage of the members or the residents, if you want to call
them that, of the total number of boats in the Anchorage would be
participating in this plan?
Capt. Davis: The best estimate I could have right now, tonight, would be
somewhere in the neighborhood of 60 percent.
Mayor Suarez: And some of those...
Capt. Davis: And that is not to say that others couldn't be persuaded as
facilities were acquired.
Mayor Suarez: Is it correct that some of them would be almost impossible for
us to police, because they just come in and stay here a couple of days and
leave, and they are just anchoring out there.
Capt. Davis: That is quite true. In fact, I understand the City Manager has
a video tape he would like to show and we have some slides to show, to go
along with that, that would indicate to you that on one given day just a few
weeks ago the vast majority of the vessels in the Anchorage were yachts either
from out of this state, or in fact, out of the country. It is still a very
popular and safe anchorage for visiting yachtsmen from all over the world.
Those people, I am sure, are not something that we need to address at this
time. What we are really addressing at this time are the permanent residents,
or semipermanent residents, as it were, that use facilities at Dinner Key
Marina, or would like to use facilities at that marina, who have for ten
years, been asking that they be able to be charged a fee for those facilities.
Mayor Suarez: OK, let me ask a question. Is there anyone opposing this plan?
Not the Waterfront Board? I mean you guys got some bitter arguments over
there, I know, in all of this.
Mr. Henry Givens: I didn't say we were opposing it.
Mayor Suarez: OK.
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Mr. Givens: My name is Henry Givens, I am chairman of the City of Miami's
Waterfront Board. Here is a member of our board, Hugh Padrick, that might may
sword or two and then after that I will make some comments.
Mr. Hugh Padrick: I guess the best thing is to take back three years ago when
this first came up to the Waterfront Board and the recent history of it.
Members of the Anchorage approached the Waterfront Board, asked that we begin
to consider the legality of their position, and that is where we have gotten
to today. The Waterfront Board, after many, many meetings, proposed to the
City a position that was sent to the City Manager's office and that is
basically where the Waterfront Board stands. We proposed a means of the City
collecting money, a means of identifying the boats, and a means of identifying
the length of stay the boat has been out there. The contract awarding was
being left up to the City Attorney's office and Mr. Sutter, to finalize the
wording of it and...
Mr. Carollo: Did you include anything in the language as far as being
voluntary, the payments?
Mr. Padrick: There was no voluntary payments. Obviously, we considered the
people that come ashore, and if you take from Peacock Park to beyond Kennedy
Park, it is all City property, mostly, and there is no place else for them to
land other than that area, unless they went to downtown Miami by their dinghy.
They would have to use City property in some capacity and you know, selective
participation was never a consideration. It was all or none.
Mr. Carollo: You're right.
Mr. Givens: Mr. Mayor, the problem that we have with this is that we have
been working with this group two years since I have been the chairman of the
Waterfront Board, and we thought that everything had been worked out. The
last I heard, there were two points, or three points that we were disagreeing
on. They had agreed that the City Attorney, Suarez -Rivas, along with the
attorney for the Anchorage, would work these problems out, sign it and then
send it on to the Manager's office for consideration. The neat thing I know,
that all of a sudden, we have a new hired lobbyist for the Anchorage who is
saying now I am the spokesperson for the group. Well, the first meeting we
had, we thought we had worked it out. Members of the Anchorage Association
came in to say we now have a spokesperson who is Mr. Sutter, who is the
attorney. Now, our board has worked diligently to try and resolve this
problem. We are not a delaying tactic. I am a firm believer, if I have to be
the goat that eats it, I will eat it right now and not wait until tomorrow,
and that is the philosophy that our board has taken on this particular
project, but it appears that the delay of this comes directly from those
persons residing in the Anchorage. We certainly would like to see this
completed and like to see it approved by the Manager's office, but they have
never given it an opportunity to get to the Manager's office because there is
a constant delaying tactic on their part and it is unfair to the board and it
is unfair to this community.
Mayor Suarez: It doesn't sound like it to me right now, at least. I don't
know what too place in the past, I know there was some really acrimonious
debates over there, everybody shouting at everybody else and it sounds to me
like a...
Capt. Davis: Mr. Mayor, in all fairness to Mr. Givens and the Waterfront
Board, we have stated before, and I would state now, without any reservation,
their efforts on our behalf or on the behalf of trying to resolve this
conflict have been admirable. What Mr. Givens doesn't realize is that as the
conversations or the negotiations got the point of dealing between City
Attorney Suarez -Rivas and Attorney Sutter, it was at that point that things
began to break down again. I am not going to sit here and try to lay blame on
either side, in fact, I think probably the circumstances are really to blame,
but I might point out to both gentlemen from the Waterfront Board, that on
June 26, 19810 the Waterfront Board asked the City Attorney for an opinion as*
to whether the Anchorage was legal, and was told by then City Attorney Percy
that no laws he knew of prohibited boats from anchoring in City waters. The
Waterfront board then requested of the City Commission to "To apply to have
the area east of Dinner Key Marina declared an official anchorage. Nothing
was ever done. This is not a new issue to the Waterf rout Board or to the
City. What we are proposing is, we rendered what we find acceptable as a
contract, that In not necessarily carved in stone and we have rendered the
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Idea that can the City Commission declare the Anchorage as an appropriate part
of our City and allow the people who need services from Dinner Key Marine,
contract for those services and pay for them. It is that simple. They'll
line up right here with the money.
Mayor Suarez: Well, what really is the difference, Henry. Suppose...
Mr. Givenst Mr. ...
Mayor Suarez: No, wait, wait. Suppose we were to agree with this plan and
say that we are going to take it one step further. Anyone who doesn't
voluntarily come into the plan, we will tell them, they're in violation and
seek to try to enforce a penalty, which we may or may not be able to do,
depending on what the court decides, but at the very least, you know, we have
got "X" percent, voluntarily, not voluntarily, but without litigation, paying
into the City and being organized and having an association and all kinds of
other things that we didn't have before, like cleaning the islands and
everything else.
Mr. Givens: Mr. Mayor, there is no objection. The objection I have is
basically when a group of people come before a board that is appointed by this
Commission...
Mayor Suarez: Right.
Mr. Given: ... and you negotiate and bargain with them in good faith and then
just as you are to present that final document to the Administration all of a
sudden, the person that they had representing them, no longer speaks for the
group and you are back to square onel
Mayor Suarez: Well, I gather it is not the easiest thing in the world to get
you know...
Mr. Givens: No, but Mr. Mayor, if we continue to...
_ Mayor Suarez: ... unified representation for a bunch of people that are
living in boats out there, you know, and have never previously had any sort of
organization or any neighborhood or anything, I mean, and some of them come in
and out, Henry.
Mr. Givens: Mr. Mayor, if any legitimate group in this community did that in
the parks of this community, you would have utter chaos. You would have
complete chaos in this community and we should not establish this type of
precedent.
Mayor Suarez: Let me tell you, if we had many neighborhoods like this one,
we'd have utter chaos in the community because it is inherently like that, I
mean, you know.
Mr. Givens: Yes, I just don't think we ought to establish this precedent.
Mr. Sutter: I am glad you recognize the difficulty of representing 150
people. It is interesting.
Mayor Suarez: Yes, I mean, I was invited to go out there one night and the
only way that I could do it would be wait for somebody to pick me up and take
me out there...
Mr. Sutter: I have had...
Mayor Suarez: ... and it very nice and all that, but it isn't all that
feasible for me to tour the neighborhood, unless I happen to own a boat.
Mr. Sutter:... numerous conversations with Mr. Suarez -Rivas and we both agree
on what the issues are. The primary issue here is whether or not there is
jurisdiction of the City out there. We take the position that there really is
not. We don't want to take a position that seems to be just plain stupid and
greedy, and not pay for the services that we use, so if we say that it
hasn't...
Mayor Suarez: Do we waive jurisdiction if you come in with this plan?
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Mr. Sutter: No, we are not waiving that issue at all. In fact, that is the
whole part of making it voluntary and that's why we are saying that if you
make it mandatory, we are surrendering the jurisdiction argument, and we would
go, we would be forced to go to court over that.
Mayor Suarez: OK, well, that is about as clear as you can get. We have got a
practical solution that symbolically may cause problems for us, I don't know.
Mr. Givens: Can you ask him to just cite the three problems that we really
differed on. They were so minor.
Mr. Sutter: One of them was jurisdiction, that was the key.
Mayor Suarez: OK, forget jurisdiction. What are the other ones? That is
symbolic.
Mrs. Kennedy: I'd like to get to the point.
Mr. Sutter: The second one was the boarding of vessels and towing?
Mayor Suarez: Boarding of vessels and towing.
Mr. Sutter: Boarding of vessels and towing. As a matter of fact, the...
Mr. Odio: Can I explain it? What we mean by that is that we, if they don't
pay, we have the right to go there and remove the boats. Now, to go to the
next question, the other point is, they want selective fee charge, and I told
them we don't have the personnel. I met with them and they are nice people,
and I told them where I come from. I don't have enough people to enforce
having selective enforcement of fees out there. How are we going to know who
paid, and who didn't pay and who is coming into the marina, who is not going
Into the marina. We just don't have that kind of people.
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Capt. Davis: It is actually a great disappointment that Commissioner Plummer
had to leave early, because in a meeting in his office this morning, he and I
discussed these exact issues and he had a marvelous suggestion that all fees
for services be paid 30 days in advance. If you don't pay, you don't have the
services, and then you don't have a problem of being selected because it is
paid in advance.
Mr. Givens: Yes, but what you are saying is, you don't have the services, but
still have the right to anchor.
Mayor Suarez: Wait, wait.
Mr. Odlo: That's the point.
Mrs. Kennedy: OK, let me address that issue of the fees. Mr. Manager, when
do you review the fees?
Mr. Odlo: Beery year, in January, when the cost of living index comes in.
Mr. Sutter: The idea...
Mr. Odlo: Yes, go ahead.
Mr. Jack Bads: Commissioner, also I think perspective wise, in January of
1986, I think was the first time that this rate was established, but not
placed into effect. Ve then had plans, Cesar was going to put it into effect
In January of 1987 and based on that, and on the concerns expressed, we are
still at the point now, and it is June, it is 18 months later, this is not
samething that where they were arbitrarily rushing into.
Mr. Odlo: We... I gave him the opportunity to show us who rerwe were off, and
he came down to these three points and I understand what they are saying, but,
there is no way we can have select...
Or. Carollo: I'll awke a resolution to defer this itam until we have a full
Casaission. I think Plummer should vote on it. Whichever way this goes, we
should have a full Commission.
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Mayor Suarez: Sounds like we are awfully close and t hope that we don't let
this fall apart because of some friction that may have taken place...
Mr. Sutton: We will not, sir. We will not walk away from the table.
Mayor Suarez% ... because if there is a good enforcement mechanism proposed
and everybody agrees to it, we may have a solution to the whole thing.
Mr. Suttons We feel... no, wait, please. I know it is tough, it is very
tough. We feel that our proposal presently contains the swans for
enforcement, which is stickers on the vessels that come in, the dinghies that
come in, and passes for the use of the showers and the various facilities that
are there. It is in the proposal, so we feel that is resolved.
Mayor Suarez: Do we have a motion to defer?
Mrs. Kennedy% Second.
Mr. Dawkins: Second.
Capt. Davis: And the other half of that...
Mayor Suarez: We have a second and a third. You are really out of order at
this point and it is not necessarily helping your cause. I think we...
Mrs. Kennedy: It is to your benefit that we defer this, believe me.
Mr. Dawkins: Defer to the first item at the neat meeting.
Capt. Davis: We do agree with that and we would be happy to come back
anytime.
Mayor Suarez: Call the roll. Oh, I'm sorry, it is for what, the first
meeting in July, right?
Mr. Odic: You don't need a vote. We will just come back.
Mayor Suarez: OK, first meeting in July.
61. ALLOCATE $3,200 FOR REMTAL OF GOSMAN CENTER FOR `LET FREEDOM RING•
Mayor Suarez: Item 63, Let Freedom Ring.
Mr. Odic: Yes, we think this is a worthy series of events, but to be held at
Gusman Hall at downtown Miami, they request $10,500 to cover one-third of the
expenses, but as I told them, there is no way I can recommend any funding for
this event. There are many, many other events that if we fund them all, it is
just impossible, and I encourage them to proceed....
Mrs. Kennedy: Well, it is 431.000, but that In not what they are asking for.
Mr. Odic: $10,500...
Mrs. Kennedy: 410,000.
Mr. Odic: ...they want from the City of Miami and...
Mr. Dawkins: Plus cost of printing.
Mr. Odios They also requested that we provide 5407...
Mr. Dave Whitney: $407.
Mr. Odio: ...for printing and they are going to request $7,000 from the Dade
County Council of Arts and Sciences, and $10,000 from Dade C'ouaty.
Mr. Carollo: What are you recommending?
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Mr. Odio: Against it. Against funding...
Mrs. Kennedy: friends of Gunman. Mould you like to make a presentation?
Mr. Whitney: I'm Dave Whitney, my address is 128 Key Heights Drive,
Plantation Key. I am chairman of The Friends of Gunman. The presentation we
would like to make is concerning a project like Freedom Rings, which is
Miami's only official celebration of the 200th anniversary of the signing of
the United States Constitution. It is an educational program for the entire
community, it transcends all racial and ethnic barriers. It is free to the
public. it is available for arranged field trips, bringing about 100... up to,
we have 137,000 summer school children, plus the parks and recreation program
and this includes underprivileged children downtown. We expect to bring
approximately 40,000 people to the downtown this summer. Our hard costs are a
little over $30,000, and because we had a request this morning, we ran what we
have got so far in in -kind contributions and that's $41,000, when we priced it
out. The proposed funding is $10,500 for the City, Dade County and the
private sector. Our sponsors to date have been the Friends of Gusman, Dade
County Council of Arts and Science, Keyes Realty, Miami -Dade Community
College, Miami -Dade Public Library, Comtell, Inc. ...
Mayor Suarez: Where is the performance going to be at?
Mr. Whitney: We have four Thursday programs at the Gusman Theatre in July,
and then we have a gala celebration on September 19th.
Mayor Suarez: You are seeking a waiver of the use of the fees for the use of
Gusman, is that part of what you are asking us for, or not?
Mr. Whitney: No, sir.
Mayor Suarez: OK.
Mr. Whitney: We support Gusman, but we also have to be aware of the price
that we need to pay the bills.
Mayor Suarez: Are you going to tell the kids about James Wilson?
Mr. Whitney: James Wilson?
Mayor Suarez: You don't know who James Wilson is and you are staging this.
Mr. Whitney: That is the signer of the Constitution from Delaware, right?
Mayor Suarez: Pennsylvania. Died in poverty. Was Supreme Court Justice, one
of eight signers of both Declaration of Independence and the Constitution.
Mrs. Kennedy: Well, in your budget you do have a rental fee.
Mr. Whitney: That is the rental fee that we pay to the Gusman Theatre.
Mrs. Kennedy: Well, isn't that what you asked, if that was part of your
costs?
Mayor Suarez: We have a policy of not funding additional functions, but we
also have a sort of a semi -policy of waiving for appropriate events the rent
for use of City facilities that would not otherwise be used on that particular
day anyhow, so there is no actual out of pocket expense to us.
Mrs. Kennedy: At this point, I waive the rental fee.
Mayor Suarez: How much is it?
Mrs. Kennedy: $2,200. Well, they have $2,200.
Mr. Whitney: That's $2,500 for all five.
Mayor Suarez: for event, or all four?
Mr. Whitneys No, that is all five events.
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Mayor Suares: That's All they are charging for Gusman?
Mr. Whitney: You get a good deal over there.
Mayor Suarez: That is for all five of them?
Mr. Whitney: Right.
Mayor Suarez: So moved. No second? I'll second it.
Mr. Dawkins: Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Kennedy, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 87-576
A RESOLUTION ALLOCATING AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $2,500 TO
COVER THE RENTAL COST OF THE GUSMAN CULTURAL CENTER IN
CONNECTION WITH FIVE (5) PERFORMANCES OF THE "LET FREEDOM
RING" CELEBRATION TO BE HELD DURING THE MONTH OF JULY 1987
TO COMMEMORATE THE 200TH BIRTHDAY OF THE SIGNING OF THE
UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION; SAID ALLOCATION BEING
CONDITIONED UPON SUBSTANTIAL COMPLIANCE WITH CITY OF MIAMI
ADMINISTRATIVE POLICY NO. APM-1-84, DATED JANUARY 24,
1984.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here
and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Mayor Suarez, the resolution was passed and
adopted by the following vote-
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins*
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
*NOTE FOR THE RECORD: Commissioner Dawkins voted negative when the roll was
called, but later changed his vote. Although motion failed on roll call,
Commissioner Dawkins' change of vote caused motion to pass. See transcript
immediately following.
DURING ROLL CALL:
Mr. Dawkins: No.
Mayor Suarez: That is usually the easiest thing to get, so unless you get
another vote, it doesn't look like it is going to go beyond it. You can go
ahead and complete...
Mr. Dawkins: I mean, I'd vote yes, but you just can't tell me that for four
straight times of using the Gunman Hall, that is only $25.00 for four times, I
know better than that.
Mr. Whitney: $2,500.00.
Mr. Dawkins:
$2,500 for four times?
Mr. Whitney:
we are looking at five times, right? You are counting the
September...
Mayor Suarez:
Is that a special fee that has already been...;
Mr. Whitney:
No, it is the established fee for day time rentals
on it.
Mr. Roger Carlton:
My name is Roger Carlton, the director of
the Department
of Off -Street
Parking. The Meek night fees for Gunman in the
current year is
4000 and change and $900 and some on woekends, so four times
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that price. There might be a small break in there. The key question is, if
you are Milling to waive the fee, what that means is one of two things. You
have had a special account from which you pay the fees for Gusman over many
years. If it means that you are willing to pay it out of that account, that
Is fine. if it means that you simply are a►nking the Department to waive the
fee, that turns into $2,500 more of loss, which we have worked with Cesar to
try to get covered as part of his budget recommendation, so we are just
looking for clarity of what you mean in that fee waiver.
Mrs. Kennedy: Since you have so much money, we meant you.
Mr. Dawkins: OK, that is $600, Mr. Carlton. That is for all technical and
all the union people and all that have to work in there?
Mr. Carlton: No, that is just the hall rent. Oh, I am sorry, go ahead.
Mr. Dawkins: But when you say waive, you're talking about the total cost.
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: Excuse me, you said $600 for technical? That's not the
whole program. $600 for technical might be just if you are referring to only
one.
Mr. Dawkins: No, Ma'am, what I am saying is, that when we open the hall...
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: Yes.
Mr. Dawkins: There are technicians.
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: Yes.
Mr. Dawkins: There are stage hands...
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: Yes.
Mr. Dawkins: ... and all of these come in, and I know good and well it is
more than $600 and I just can't sit here and vote... I mean...
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: When we...
Mr. Dawkins: ... if he gives me a true cost, you got me!
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: OK, the $600 that you are speaking of, in terms of
technical is from a picture, a motion picture. Well, yes, when there is a
full night, the final night, a gala celebration, it could...
Mr. Dawkins: Mr. Carlton, what is the total cost for anybody in the hall, and
all the people you have to pay, that have to come in there.
Mr. Carlton: It varies, according to the event, the type of event, etc. The
basic hall rental, $600, or $900. Then you start adding in the union labor
costs, the technical costs, etc., etc.
Mr. Dawkins: Are we...
Mr. Carlton: That can be anywhere from 6600...
Mr. Dawkins: Are we waiving the union costs and all?
Mr. Carlton: No, sir.
Mr. Dawkins: They are going to pay that?
Mr. Carlton: That's correct. All your waiving is the rental of the hall.
Mr. Dawkins: OK, I vote yes. Go ahead, let's go to nest one and get out of -
here.
Mayor Suarez: Do you want to change your vote?
Mr. Dawkins: Yes, Yes.
Mayor Suarez: To reconsider?
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Mr. Dawkins: No, just vote yes.
Mayor Suarez: Reflect his vote as yes on the waiver.
Mr. Dawkins: I'm voting yes.
Mayor Suarez: Like the constitutional framers, you can keep the discussion
going, but it is late in the evening, and we all could get worse from here on,
I don't know.
62. ALLOCATE $3.200 IN SUPPORT OF MIAMI CITY BALLET FOR RENTAL OF GUSMAN
CENTER.
Mayor Suarez: Item 65.
Mr. Mark Steinberg: Mr. Mayor and Commissioners, I know it is late, so I will
try and keep this short.
Mayor Suarez: Miami City Ballet.
Mr. Steinberg: Yes, my name is Mark Steinberg, I reside at 2907 Seminole
Street in Miami. I am president of the board of Miami City Ballet. I think
everybody knows the value that Miami City Ballet has brought to the community,
both locally, nationally, and internationally. We have been invited to tour
In Israel, Equator, Panama, Atlanta, and New York, and in fact, I just got
back from New York, where the board of directors of the New York City Ballet,
which is the most important ballet company in the country, is forming a
national Friends of The Miami City Ballet. It is that kind of creditability
because of Mr. Vallejo being in Miami. Miami City Ballet carries its name
wherever it travels and whenever it gets any publicity and it makes people
know what Miami is all about. We normally perform from October to May.
October is a little early, everybody said, but we wanted to start a little
early, just to show the people to support it. We perform in Miami, Fort
Lauderdale, Palm Beach and also Miami Beach.
Mayor Suarez: How much of your request is related to waivers also?
Mr. Steinberg: Pardon?
Mayor Suarez: How much of the request is related to waivers of the rent for
Gunman?
Mr. Steinberg: Well, again, Guzman runs about... Commissioner Dawkins is
correct, our cost there of about $2,500 per time, we have to have it for
rehearsal time and for the actual performances. It comes to about $10,000.
And then we have to bring the dancers in three weeks earlier in order to do
some of the programing. I've lived down....
Mayor Suarez: Have you worked out a schedule with the City, or with the Off -
Street Parking Authority to see if the nights are available that you are
looking for, including...
Mr. Steinberg: Yes, we have.
Mrs. Kennedy: Mark, you are asking for more than the fee waiver, right? You
asking for $25,000...
Mr. Steinberg: Yes, I am, because we have to bring the dancers in early to
perform in the summer and I've lived down here since 1945 and everybody's
concept is that the City closes up in the summer time, there is no cultural
activity. The opera doesn't perform, no ballet, no theatre, and I know that I
live here and I am here in the summer time, and I think that there are a lot
of other people that are here and there are tourist down here, and I would
like to show these people and Miami and the tourists that we do have cultural
activities in Miami in the summer time. We believe in community service and
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WO have donated tickets to the performances to the Partners For Youth, to
Centro Hater, Inner City Touring Dance Company, The San Juan Bosco Church, the
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Haitian Catholic, etc.. the many different organizations, which we Will
continue to do.
Mayor Suarez: Let me put into the record, a letter from Pat Seitz, an
attorney in support of your request.
Mr. Steinberg: The main reason for this request is the cost of us putting on
the summer program here. It comes to about $75,000, and we are just asking
for a subsidy from the City to help us show that there is cultural activity in
this community of a very high standard of quality in the summer time.
Mrs. Kennedy: Let me tell you, these people have been ambassadors to our
City. They started well, they got better and they have now burst into
excellence. They could have named the ballet in Miami Beach, or South
Florida, or anything else, yet they chose to name it, "Miami City Ballet" and
I think that we should put our money where our mouth is and so I move their
request.
Mayor Suarez: I'll second it. Don't know if it is going to pass, if it
doesn't...
Mr. Dawkins: What is your recommendation, Mr. Manager?
Mayor Suarez: If it doesn't move, maybe we will try for a waiver.
Mr. Odio: We are recommending denial of funding again.
Mr. Dawkins: Call the roll.
MOTION FAILED
UPON MOTION DULY MADE BY COMMISSIONER KENNEDY AND SECONDED BY
MAYOR SUAREZ, FUNDING REQUEST WAS DENIED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE OF
THE CITY COMMISSION:
AYES: Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Vice Mayor J.L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Suarez: Do you want to try a motion on the waiver of the fees?
Mrs. Kennedy: Sure, why not. I so move.
Mayor Suarez: Seconded.
Mr. Dawkins: Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Kennedy, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 87-577
A RESOLUTION ALLOCATING AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $3,200 IN
SUPPORT OF THE MIAMI CITY BALLET TO COVER THE RENTAL COST
OF THE GUSMAN CULTURAL CENTER FOR PERFORMANCES TO BE HELD
AUGUST 25-30, 1987; SAID ALLOCATION BEING CONDITIONED UPON
SUBSTANTIAL. COMPLIANCE WITH CITY OF MIAMI ADMINISTRATIVE
POLICY NO. APM-1-84, DATED JANUARY 24, 1964.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here
and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
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Upon being seconded by Mayor Suarez, the resolution was passed and
adopted by the following vote-
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AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mr, Odio: I do want to point before he leaves that he is not leaving with
empty hands because he will receive $20,000 from the festival ordinance, our
R- 87-1007 during FY-87-188.
Mr. Steinberg: That is correct. That was an operating budget for a normal
year and we are very appreciative of that.
Mayor Suarez: Oh, we have that already? See, you didn't tell us that, OK.
Mr. Steinberg: Well, this is something special for the summer programing,
which is costing us...
Mayor Suarez: Say hello to Mr. Vallejo and tell him he is doing a fantastic
job.
Mr. Steinberg: Thank you.
Mayor Suarez: We just don't have that much money.
63. A ALLOCATE 450,000 TO MIAMI DADE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE; ADMINISTRATION
TO REQUEST COOPERATION FROM FEDERAL, STATE AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT TO
ASSIST CHAMBER.
B CITY MANAGER TO SEND LETTER TO GREATER MIAMI CHAMBER OF COMMERCE
REQUESTING THAT STAFF ASSISTANCE BE PROVIDED TO MIAMI DADE CHAMBER
OF COMMERCE.
Mayor Suarez: Item 66, Miami Dade Chamber. Boy, you have really sat through
a long one here today.
Mr. Dawkins: You don't have my vote.
Mayor Suarez: We are not going to see the new chairman? We are not going to
see the new chairman?
Mr. Dawkins: You don't have my vote so you can go home. There's not but two
of three of us up here.
Mayor Suarez: Where is Mr. Williams? I thought he was going to come and show
his face today.
Mr. Odio: I just want to advise the Commission that the Administration has
not reviewed this proposal and that I prefer that we do review it and then
come back with a recommendation.
Mrs. Kennedy: I think that is a very good idea. We'll see you at the next...
because we haven't had time to look at this.
Mr. Odio: Unless, you know...
Mr. Dawkins: I agree with the proposal and to save Dot from: coming back, we
did have some money that was given frost the Off -Street Parking, and we
earmarked $50,000 of that for Liberty City, and I would like to, when we have
a full Commission, make a suggestion that that $50,000 that we have earmarked
from the $500,000 that we are getting from the Off -Street Parking be given to
the Chamber to plan, have somebody execute, cooperation between the State,
Federal and Local government, of how they can operate.
Mayor Suarez: Is that a motion?
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Mr. Dawkins: Yes.
Mayor Suarez% So moved. I second. It is sort of a motion in principle to
recommend $50,000 of the Off -Street Parking monies, whatever is left, for the
association and its various activities.
Mrs. Kennedy: Call the roil.
Mr. Foeman% Do we have a second?
Mrs. Kennedy: Yes, the Mayor seconded it.
Mr. Dawkins: Yes, the Mayor seconded it.
Mayor Suarez: I seconded it.
Mrs. Kennedy: I thought I had, but he did.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Dawkins, who moved
its adoption:
MOTION NO. 87-578
A MOTION APPROVING IN PRINCIPLE THE ALLOCATION OF THE
$50,000 (FROM THE $500,000 RECEIVED FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF
OFF-STREET PARKING) TO THE MIAMI DADE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE;
FURTHER STIPULATING THAT THE ADMINISTRATION REQUEST
COOPERATION WITH THE FEDERAL, STATE AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS
CONCERNING HOW THE CHAMBER CAN OPERATE.
Upon being seconded by Mayor Suarez, the motion was passed and adopted
by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mr. Dawkins: I also would like to go on record having this Commission send a
resolution or a letter, or something to the Greater Miami Chamber of Commerce,
since they went down to...
Mayor Suarez: Ocean Reef.
Mr. Dawkins: Ocean Reef, and mapped out what is best for my community. They
did not include nobody that I know of, and I would like for them to provide
some sort of staffing from the Greater Chamber to assist this chamber in
getting on its feet, be it clerical, managerial, or planning staff, and I
would like for a letter to go out from this Commission saying that we would
like to see the Chamber do these things.
Mayor Suarez: So moved. Do you want to seconded? Seconded. Any discussion?
Call the roll.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Dawkins, who moved
Its adoption:
MOTION NO. 87-579
A MOTION INSTRUCTING THE CITY MANAGER TO PREPARE AND SEND
A LITTER TO THE GREATER MIAMI CHAMBER OF COMMERCE
REQUESTING THAT STAFF ASSISTANCE BE PROVIDED TO,MIAMI DADE
CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.
Upon bolas seconded by Commissioner Kennedy, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote-
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AYES: Commissioner Miller J. !Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Suarez: Could you draft that from the City Manager's office for my
signature, please? Carlos, since he's... Make sure that you draft that.
Mr. Dawkins: You put this on the first time after they review it Next time
you come here, you will be on first. The Manager has to review this and make
a recommendation.
Mrs. Dorothy Baker: Thank you, I have two proposals there.
Mayor Suarez: You gave them both to him?
Mrs. Baker: Yes.
Mr. Dawkins: OK, all right. The Manager will review them and... oh by the
way, Dot, I wish you would get in touch with Miami Dade, because we gave
$500,000, the State gave $2,000,000 for them to put an entrepreneurial staff
out there and I think that Miami Dade should set up a computer service in that
building rather than anyplace else until the entrepreneurial service is
completed.
Ms. Baker: Thank you, I will.
Mayor Suarez: Tell Mr. Williams to show his face here, so we can see him and
work with him.
Mrs. Baker: I certainly will. Thank you very much.
Mayor Suarez: Nov that he has taken over.
64. DISCUSSION AND DEFERRAL OF CLOSURE OF N.E. 31 STREET BETWEEN BISCAYNE
BOULEVARD AND N.B. 2 AVENUE (See label #64 and #70)
Mayor Suarez: Item 67. Well, you have waited a long time too.
Mr. Dawkins: Move it.
Mr. David Fieldstone: I'll try to be very brief.
Mrs. Kennedy: It is just a closure of streets, right?
Mr. Fieldstone: Pardon? Yes.
± Mrs. Kennedy: Second. No? OK.
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Mr. Fieldstone: I'm sorry, I didn't bear.
{ Mrs. Kennedy: OK, never -mind, go ahead.
Mr. Dawkins: Between 31st Street. Move it.
Mrs. Kennedy: Well, I don't know what he is asking for.
Mr. Dawkins: OK, go ahead then, go ahead. Go ahead and explkin it.
Mr. Cather: The Commission, when the street was originally closed, provided
that the amount of at least $200.000 be given in the form of voluntary
covenants to maintain the roadway in perpetuity, and to provide Improvements,
public benefits and amenities on or within the general vicinity of the
roadway, as mutually determined between the City of Miami Administration, and
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the covenanter, which is the Executive Plaza in the amount of at least
$200,000. We had been reviewing this matter since that time, which was, by
the way, in 19820 181 and 182, and the Executive Plaza has stated that they
have spent $2050000. We have been able to verify that they have spent
$160,000. Now, with another improvement they made, it is up to $165,000. We
don't believe it is the place of the Department of Public Works to determine
whether or not such items as fencing work, and interest costs and tree
removal, planning and maintenance, which was a little higher than we
estimated... they estimated higher than we did, we thought that this item
should come before the Commission, before the final sign -off on this project.
They have so far, according to their records, done $205,000 worth of work,
plus interest. We can justify $165,000.
Mr. Dawkins: So you are saying they owe us the balance?
Mr. Cather: No, I am saying that it is a matter of opinion as to what work
they haven't done, and what it costs.
Mr. Dawkins: No, no, but no, see, if you are saying... well, either he is
right! Either he has spent the amount of money he was supposed to spend, or
he hasn't spent it. Now, what are you saying, sir?
Mr. Cather: Well, if you allow interest costs, he has spent it.
Mr. Dawkins: What interest? The interest is oursl
Mr. Cather: No, the interest on his money...
Mr. Dawkins: Well it... no, it is not his moneyl
Mr. Cather: Well, maybe...
Mr. Dawkins: He was supposed to make these repairs for us.
Mr. Cather: Yes.
Mr. Dawkins: That is what we gave him the covenant for, so that is our money)
That is his own money, he can't charge me interest for holding his own money.
Mr. Pierce: Mr. Dawkins, at risk of great peril, may I, sir? In 1981...
Mr. Dawkins: I was here. Go ahead.
Mr. Pierce: No, sir.
Mr. Dawkins: Yes, air.
Mr. Pierce: You came in November of 1981. The original street closure
petition was prior to that.
Mayor Suarez: It was here in spirit.
Mr. Dawkins: Was Mr. Mays... was attorney Mays the attorney?
Mr. Odio: It was October 21st, as matter of fact.
Mr. Pierce: No, Mr. Fieldstone says it was Mr. McCrary, but I just wanted to
put into the record what my recollection of what happened that day was. That
' was that your predecessor out of the blue came out with a number of $200,000,
and at the time, we said, "Well, what is the rational basis to be spent on
that street, when it didn't really take that much money, and it stuck there,
and...
Mr. Dawkins: But, they bought that though, even though... they bought itl
i They agreed to it, right? I don't care where he got it from, they agreed to'
it, is that right?
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Mr. Pierces You are right.
` Mr. Dawkins: OK, go ahead now.
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Mr. Pierces OK, but I just wanted to make the Commission aware of that is how
this thing came about. Since that time, I believe the property owners has
tried on a couple of occasions to get some rational basis out of it and they
came up with this finally and 1 just wanted to make sure that you understood
how it happened, how it came about, how we got to this point, but they did
spend all of the money that we could see that could logically and nationally
spend doing what they were supposed to do.
Mr. Dawkins: Well, somebody is lying. He says that our estimate of what was
spent is not in accordance with what his estimate is.
Mr. Pierce: No, what he is saying is...
Mr. Dawkins: No, no, I know what he said novel If you want to say some thing
different, I know what he said.
Mr. Pierce: Let me restate what he said, then.
Mr. Dawkins: No, let him he restate it, because see you... I don't want you
to put words in his mouthl State what he wants to say, nol
Mrs. Kennedy: I also have a question. Don, did I hear him say that he wants
Interest on the money he spentl
Mr. Cather: No. No, I am sorry. Let's take each item. Tree removal,
planting and maintenance.
Mrs. Kennedy: That is the best deal in town) Yes, if I put a roof in my
house, and I spend "X" dollar amount, you know, I am not going to charge
interest.
Mr. Cather: No, he has spent... he has tree removal, planting...
Mr. Cather: Well, there is $10,000 here. OK, I will agree with that. All
right, then we have painting work, which we said was up; sidewalk work
required by the under the subdivision improvements was $20,000. He has done
the work, he has spent the $20,000, but our interpretation of it as that this
was required under the subdivision improvements, and not as part of $200,000
improvements. That is a legitimate argument. Nobody is lying about it. The
fact is, the work was done and he is claiming it and we say it is part of the
subdivision work. The fencing work was done. We feel that that was part of his
lot improvements, not public benefits. He fenced his parking lot. Those are
the two items of which we disagree and we feel that we would want to get the
Commission to decide whether they feel that he has met the requirements set up
by the City Commission, which was to do $200,000 worth of public improvements.
Mayor Suarez: To summarize, what are the two points of contention, Don,
please?
Mr. Cather: The one is the sidewalk work, was required under the subdivision
Improve ate. That was $20,000 he has included in his estimate. The other
item $10,000 for the fencing work. Now, we are being sticklers. The man has
spent $205,000 on the property, but we feel that the Commission should decide
whether this is the complete satisfaction of the Commission action of 1981 at
this point in time.
Mayor Suarez: So we waive the completion of one alternative, right, of the
items as you are proposing?
Mr. Cather: No, we say that ...
Mayor Suarez: That he has complied.
Mr. Cather: He has complied, or you ask him to do additional planting of
trees or something. I don't know what also you could ask him to do.
Mrs. Kennedy: Mr. Mayor, I feel that this is something that should be heard
by the full Commission, and I am sorry, I know you have been waiting here for
a long time.
Mayor Suarez: You think we are being sticklers if...
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Mr. Cathers Well I'm being a stickler, yes.
Mayor Suaret: If we go as far as... OK.
Mr, Cathers If we accept his figures, he has got $205,000, or $5,000 more
than was required.
Mayor Suarez: Jack back there is shaking his head. What does that mean? You
don't agree?
Mr. Dawkins: (OFF MICROPHONE) If I don't accept his figures what does he owe
the City? All right, I tell you what.....
Mr. Jack Bads: (OFF MICROPHONE INAUDIBLE)
Mrs. Kennedy: Yes.
Mayor Suarez: Yes, you will be able to. Well, you have to hear from our
staff too. Go ahead, sir. Go ahead.
Mrs. Kennedy: I just feel uncomfortable with this.
Mr. Cather: The items are, a difference of opinion of $10,000 on tree
removal, planting and maintenance. $20,000 is sidewalk work, which was
required under the subdivision improvements and 610,000 worth of fencing.
That is $30,000... $40,000.
Mr. Dawkins: In dispute, right?
Mr. Cather: Well, the street remains as access to the parking on both sides
of the street. That's itl
Mayor Suarez: Any compromises, Mr. City Manager? Any compromises you want to
offer, one last try before we defer this item?
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Mayor Suarez: Jack, get close to the mike, please.
Mrs. Kennedy: Yes, Jack.
Mr. Jack Bads: You have asked for a... Commissioner Kennedy asked for a
deferral at this point. Why don't you refer him back to the Public Works
Department and see if he can come out with a little better solution to the
problem.
Mrs. Kennedy: And try to... yes.
Mr. Odio: I do not have a... truthfully, I don't have a feel for this issue.
I would like staff to look at it again.
Mr. Cathers Well, we have been reviewing this thing with this man since 1982.
Mr. Dawkins: Let me tell you, this has been a problem from the beginning.
Now, you guys say I wasn't here, OK?
Mayor Suarez: Why didn't you get this resolved when you were here?
Mr. Dawkins: I was here when he came back the second time because they had
problems with it the first time. Don't tell me I didn't vote on thial
Mayor Suarez: You should have gotten this resolved while you were here.
Mr. Dawkins: And he made all these promises and you all want to get me to
vote for it. I know I was here, but you guys say I wasn'tl
Mr. Pierces No, I...
Mr. Dawkins: No, himl
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Mrs. Kennedy: OK, Mr. Manager, you say you don't have a feel for this?
Mr. Odios No, I don't. If I... I am not ready to recommend anything,
because I would have to talk to Walter. Are you ready to recommend something?
Mrs. Kennedy: All the better reason to defer it then.
Mayor Suarez: Go ahead, approach the mike. Let me tell you something
practical here. You would have to have the unanimous vote for this to pass
the way you want it, and it doesn't look like you are headed to that, so we
may as well defer it.
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Mayor Suarez: Yes, go ahead, absolutely, please, but not from there, grab the
mike.
Mr. Fieldstone: OK, first of all, there is a big argument...
Mayor Suarez: Give us your name and address.
Mr. Fieldstone: There is an argument, as Mr. Cather said, over the
interpretation of what we are supposed to do, so I would like to read you the
covenant itself.
Mrs. Kennedy: We have it here.
Mr. Fieldstone: We are not arguing over the numbers. We are arguing over...
Mayor Suarez% Interpretation of the covenant?
Mr. Fieldstone:... what is included, and what isn't. He is reading it
extremely and generous. I don't know how else I can put it. It says
here, "Improvements, public benefits and amenities on, or within the general
vicinity of the roadway." OK? It says, "On or within the general vicinity."
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Mr. Fieldstone: Yes, I am waiting until I get someone to listen.
Mr. Odio: Can I ask you something?
Mr. Fieldstone: Yes.
Mr. Odio: Can you meet with him for five minutes, and we can resolve this?.
If you want to talk.....
Mayor Suarez: OK, table the item. We just have a couple of things to do.
Mr. Odio: If you give me five minutes, I can resolve it.
Mayor Suarez: That is probably all we have.
THEREUPON THIS ITEM WAS MOMENTARILY DEFERRED.
65. SCHEDULE PUBLIC HEARING DECLARING A HOUSING EMERGENCY.
Mayor Suarez: Item 68, we need the Commission to approve the following
motion. It is a motion directing the City Clerk to publish a notice of public
hearing for the purpose of declaring a housing emergency in the City of Miami,
relative to the severe shortage of housing, within the affordability range of
families and individuals of low and moderate income...
Mrs. Kennedy: Move it.
Mayor Suarez:... establishing June 25, 1987 at 2:30 p.m. as a date and tima for
the public hearing to discuss the proposed sale, establishing June 25, 1987 at
2:30 p.m. as the date and time for the public hearing to discuss the proposed
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sale; conveyance or disposition of the city -owned Carver Branch YMCA site
consisting of seven (7) home sites by a method other than to the highest
responsible bidder in accordance with the objectives of the City's scattered
site housing development and affordable homeownership opportunity program
demonstration project. That is really the name of it? Not
Mrs. Kennedy: Move it. This is a great program that if successful could be a
model for the rest of the nation.
Mr. Jerry Gereaux: We have to say a lot in these kinds of motions. Yes, it
certainly will)
Mayor Suarezt You are just trying to see if I can it read as well as she can,
right? Wowl OK, I'll entertain a motion to that effect.
Mrs. Kennedyt I just moved it.
Mayor Suarezt So moved.
Mr. Dawkins: Seconded.
Mayor Suarez: Seconded. Any discussion? Definitely have a housing emergency
for affordable housing. Call the roll.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Kennedy, who moved
Its adoption:
MOTION NO. 87-580
A MOTION DIRECTING THE CITY CLERK TO PUBLISH A NOTICE OF
PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE PURPOSE OF DECLARING A HOUSING
EMERGENCY IN THE CITY OF MIAMI RELATIVE TO THE SEVERE
SHORTAGE OF HOUSING WITHIN THE AFFORDABILITY RANGE OF
FAMILIES AND INDIVIDUALS OF LOW AND MODERATE INCOME;
ESTABLISHING JUNE 25, 1987 AT 200 P.M. AS THE DATE AND
TIME FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING TO DISCUSS THE PROPOSED SALE,
CONVEYANCE OR DISPOSITION OF THE CITY -OWNED CARVER BRANCH
YMCA SITE CONSISTING OF SEVEN (7) HOME SITES BY A METHOD
OTHER THAN THE HIGHEST RESPONSIBLE BIDDERS) IN ACCORDANCE
WITH THE OBJECTIVES OF THE CITY'S SCATTERED SITE HOUSING
DEVELOPMENT AND AFFORDABLE HOMEOWNERSHIP OPPORTUNITY
PROGRAM DEMONSTRATION PROJECT.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Dawkins, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
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66. CONTINUED DISCUSSION AND DEFERRAL OF CLOSURE OF N.E. 31 STREET BETWEEN
BISCAYNE BOULEVARD AND N.E. 2 AVENUE (See label #64 and 070)
Mr. Dawkins: Madam City Attorney.
Mayor Suarez: Yes, Commissioner.
Mr. Dawkins: Point of information. The gentlemen who is out there with Mr.
Pierce. There is some discussion as to if he followed the covenant or if he
did not. In the event that I feel that he didn't, and I'd like to go to court
and prove that if he didn't follow the covenant and reopen the street, is such
a thing possible?
Mrs. Dougherty: I don't know off the top of my head, I would have to tell you
by the next time.
Mr. Dawkins: OK, let me tell you what happened. We closed off 31st Street
for this gentlemen. Closed off, took a whole street away from the public.
They can't use it at all, OK? Nov, it allows parking for his building on both
sides of the street, and there is a promenade that he made and he got a gate
at the end of it where he locks off a public street, and we allowed him to do
It, OK?
Mrs. Dougherty: And we vacated the street subject to a covenant...
Mr. Dawkins: Yes.
Mrs. Dougherty: ... that said ... did it have a reverter in it? In the event
that...
Mr. Dawkins: I'm pretty sure we had a reverter.
Mrs. Dougherty: If it did, then we can.
Mr. Dawkins: All right then. Well, when he comes back, I am going to make
that motion.
Mrs. Dougherty: well, let's... I think the whole thing has been deferred,
hasn't it?
Mr. Dawkins: No.
!Mrs. Dougherty: No?
Mr. Dawkinss I'm getting ready to now, though.
Mrs. Dougherty: Let's look at the covenat.
Mr. Cather: I don't see a reverter in there.
Mrs. Dougherty:
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Mr. Dawkins: With the reverter, the severability clause didn't have that in
there?
Mrs. Doughertys You are thinking of the repealer and severability clause and
this is a reverter, reverting the land back to us if they don't comply with
the covenant. Usually, if they don't comply with the covenant, what we do is
enforce it, just like a contract. We'd have to go to court and have specific
perforsunce.
Mr. Dawkins: Nov, I want to open the street up to the public.
Mayor Suarez; Which property is that?
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Mrs. Dougherty: When, how?
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THERUPON THIS ITEM WAS AGAIN MOMENTARILY DEFERRED.
67. BRIEF DISCUSSION AND TEMPORARY DEFERRAL OF ALLOCATION OF $4,500 TO UNITED
STATES OPEN TABLE TENNIS CHAMPIONSHIP (See label #69)
Mayor Suarez: There was an item that postponed from this morning, which is
38. Commissioner Carollo, had asked for it to be postponed. He has now
indicated through his assistant that he doesn't have any particular concern
about it — 38, but we don't have a quorum right here. What was the issue
pending on item 36, Cesar, the ping pong tournament, the funding?
INAUDIBLE BACKGROUND COMMENTS NOT ENTERED INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD.
Mayor Suarez: Henry said that it was OK with him. He said he didn't care.
Mr. Odios (INAUDIBLE, OFF MIKE)
Mayor Suarez: What was it, the approval of the funding?
Mr. Castaneda: Right. $4,500.
Mayor Suarez: Well, you have authority to deal with that yourself.
Mr. Odio: Yes, but I just...
Mayor Suarez: You want to know.
Mr. Odio: No, let me tell you what happened on that one. I recommended
denial and Commissioner Carollo answered at that time that he invoked the five
day rule and that it be brought back, so we had to bring it back as agenda
item. If you want to, I deal with administratively.
Mayor Suarez: I have no problem with it.
Mr. Dawkins: I'd rather let Rosario comment and move it and I'll second it,
and ve go ahead and give them the money, but she moved it before, so as soon
as she comes back, she'll move it.
THEREUPON THIS ITEM WAS MOMENTARILY DEFERRED.
68. BRIEF COMMENTS BY CITY ATTORNEY CONCERNING CHARTER AMENDMENTS FOR
NOVEMBER 1987 ELECTION (See label #72)
Mayor Suarez: Item 69, the one on the Charter Amendment, I am told by the
City Attorney that the best bet is to defer that. We still have time?
Mr. Dawkins: Item 60?
Mrs. Dougherty: The next Commission meeting I will be preparing a resolution
with all these attachments, asking you to direct me to prepare the actual
Charter amendments, but I'd like to get a consensus from you all at that time.
Then I will have the real resolution prepared for the 9th of July. We can
pass them before.
Mayor Suarez: OK, so do you need a deferral or anything on that today?
Mrs. Dougherty: No.
THEREUPON THIS ITEM WAS MOMENTARILY DEFERRED.
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69. ALLOCATION Or $4,500 TO UNITED STATES OPEN TABLE TENNIS CHAMPIONSHIP (See
label #67)
Mayor Suarez: No, OK. Do you want to move the ping pong tournament,
Commissioner?
Mrs. Kennedy: Move 38.
Mayor Suarez: Yes.
Mr. Dawkins: She moved 38? I second.
Mayor Suarez: Call the roll on 38.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Kennedy, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 87-581
A RESOLUTION ALLOCATING AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $4,500
FROM SPECIAL PROGRAMS AND ACCOUNTS, CONTINGENT FUND, IN
SUPPORT OF THE UNITED STATES OPEN TABLE TENNIS
CHAMPIONSHIP TO BE CONDUCTED BY THE UNITED STATES TABLE
TENNIS ASSOCIATION JUNE 17-22, 1987; SUBJECT TO AND
CONTINGENT UPON COMPLIANCE WITH SUCH CONDITIONS AND
LIMITATIONS AS MAY BE PRESCRIBED BY THE CITY OF MIAMI.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here
and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Dawkins, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
70. CONTINUED DISCUSSION AND DEFERRAL OF CLOSURE OF N.E. 31 STREET BETWEEN
BISCAYNE BOULEVARD AND N.E. 2 AVENUE (See label #64 and #66)
Mr. Dawkins: I'd like to make a motion that on this item here, regarding the
street...
Mayor Suarez: Yes.
Mr. Dawkins: ... that Madam City Attorney, you prepare to go to court, and if
this gentlemen violated the covenant, I want the street opened. If he didn't
violate it, then I will let him off the hook. But, prepare, let's go to
court, and let him prove that he didn't violate the covenant, fine, then he
can open it. If he violated the covenant, I want to void the covenant and
open the street.
Mr. Odio: Yes, sir.
INAUDIBLE BACKGROUND COMMENTS NOT ENTERED INTO THIS WILIC RECORD.
Mr. David fieldstone: 1 think one of the items in court will be whether I got
a fair hearing here, which I obviously didn't...
Mr. Dawkins: That's fair enough.
Mayor Suarez: dell...
Mr. Fieldstone: ... because you won't even let me speak.
Mayor Suarez: No, you can speak. You might convince him, you might convince
him.
Mr. Fieldstone: What for? We already said he couldn't care less.
Mr. Clark: Commissioner Dawkins, we have the amended covenant in front of us
now...
Mr. Fieldstone: How could I have violated anything? read it!
Mayor Suarez: Wait, wait.
Mr. Clark:... and apparently the covenant calls for the expenditure. There is
no time, in other words, he wants right now is us to say to let him go and
release the covenant. We are saying that we don't want to release the
covenant. At this point in time all you have to do is agree that he has not
made those amounts of expenditures and that covenant will still stand and run
and he will have to keep the... The covenant is in force. It is not a
question of violation. He just cannot get his release from this covenant at
this point in time and he will never get it until we say he has spent $200,000
to our satisfaction, and as yet, we are saying he has not, according to Mr.
Cather.
Mr. Odic: And we have not reached an agreement. We stay with the amount.
Mr. Fieldstone: And the other thing we could do when we go to court, I've had
much legal advice that the covenant is totally illegal in the first place. We
have never made an issue out of that, because we made an agreement and you
know, if you want test that, that is fine too.
Mr. Dawkins: It is also illegal for you to know it was illegal and to agree
to it, I dean, if we go court! That is why we got some people...
dr. Fieldstone: You seem very anxious to go to court. I can't be intimidated.
I don't have a time limit on this.
Mr. Dawkins: Well, I've got sixteen lawyers sitting down with nothing to do
but go to court, so you can't intimidate me either, OK?
Mr. Fieldstone: That's fine. I am not the one who mentioned court. I came
here trying to be reasonable. We have done everything...
Mr. Dawkins: No, you came... you told me what you weren't going to do. That
In being reasonable, sir?
Mr. Fieldstone: Anyone that is reasonably... anyone that could... we have done
everything reasonable anyone could be asked to do.
Mr. Dawkins: Sir, wait a minute. Let me ask you a question, sir. You told me
what...
Mr. Fieldstone: I would like somebody to show me what more we could do on
that street, where we haven't been reasonable.
Mayor Suarez: Veil, the problem at this point is even reasonability, it is
procedural. You don't have... there is only three of us here, so there is one
that has indicated that he is not going to vote with you on this.
Mr. Fieldstone: That is not even my point I've been accused now...
Mayor Suarez: No, no, you haven't let me finish my point, air. Let me finish
my point, that you are not going to via tonight, so your best bet is to go
with Commissioner Kennedy's idea that we defer this to a full Commission.
210 June 114 1987
Maybe you will have three votes at that point, maybe you won't. Would you like
to try that? I know you waited three hours and we do the best we can to go
through the agenda.
Mr. Fieldstone: Well, how can anybody make an informed vote when they don't
even want to listen to the facts?
Mayor Suarez: I am just telling you, it is very simple math. There are three
of us here. One is going to vote against you. I don't know how the other two
are going to vote, including myself.
Mrs. Kennedy: I will tell you what I'd like to do, as you have been here most
of the day, I'd like to reschedule you for the first...
Mr. Fieldstone: All right, can we be heard towards the first of the next
agenda in fairness?
Mrs. Kennedy: Right, and at a specific time, either right in the morning,
after we start, or right after lunch, so you don't have to wait, OK?
Mr. Fieldstone: OK, thank you.
Mayor Suarez: OK? Item is deferred. We don't need to vote on that, Madam
City Attorney, to defer that item?
Mr. Fieldstone: I won't be here with a lawyer.
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71. RESCHEDULE JUNE 25, 1987 COMMISSION MEETING TO COMMENCE AT 1:00 P.M.
Mayor Suarez: OK, I need a motion on the Commission meeting of the 25th being
rescheduled to 2:00 p.m. from 9:00 a.m.
Mrs. Kennedy: Move it.
Mayor Suarez: Since I am advised that we can do it all in that time, instead
of doing it in the morning.
Mr. Odio: Well, actually, I'd like to remind you that you told me you have to
leave here at 7:00 p.m.
Mayor Suarez: Right.
Mr. Odio: So it will be from 2:00 p.m. to 7:00 p.m.
Mrs. Kennedy: Do we have time?
Mr. Odio: And you will have to defer...
Mayor Suarez: But, many items are scheduled at 5:00 p.m. anyhow.
Mr. Dawkins: Should be from 1:00 to 7:00 p.m.
Mayor Suarez: Do you want to try 1:00 p.m.?
Mrs. Kennedy: Yes, 1:00 p.m.
Mr. Odio: As you wish.
Mayor Suarez: 1:00 p.m.
Mr. Dawkins: 1:00 p.m.
Mayor Suarez: OK, I will entertain a motion.
Mrs. Kennedy: OK, what is, madam ...I just moved it.
Mayor Suarez: Moved.
219 .Tune 110 1987
Mr. Dawkins: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Seconded, 1:00 p.m. Call the roil.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Kennedy, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 67-582
A RESOLUTION RESCHEDULING THE REGULAR CITY COMMISSION
MEETING OF JUNE 25, 1987 TO TAKE PLACE AT 1:00 P.M.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here
and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Dawkins, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote -
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Rosario Kennedy
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Joe Carollo
Vice -Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
72. BRIEF COMMENTS BY CITY ATTORNEY CONCERNING CHARTER AMENDMENTS FOR
NOVEMBER 1987 ELECTION (See label #68)
Mrs. Kennedy: OK, Mr. Mayor, I came in as the City Attorney was giving a
recommendation on the Charter amendment. What was that again?
Mayor Suarez: We are waiting for you to be here...
Mrs. Dougherty: Well, I asked them to defer the issue until we have a full
Commission, because we need a consensus of everybody.
Mayor Suarez: What was the procedure that you planned to follow, Madam City
Attorney? Do you want to explain it one more time?
Mrs. Dougherty: Say that again.
Mayor Suarez: What was the procedure that we are going to be following that
you just explained?
Mrs. Dougherty: At the next Commission meeting I will have a resolution
directing me to prepare the actual language for the July meeting, as I
explained to you, I think before, that this July, either the first or the
second meeting, are the only two dates that we can pass it in time for the
election, because it has to be no more than 60 and no less than 120, because
we don't have meetings in August. July is the only two dates we will do it
officially.
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ASSISTANT CITT CtUX
Xavier L. Suarez
M•TOR
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DOCUMENT INDEX
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ALLOCATE $20,000 TO HAITIAN
AMERICAN COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION TO
PROVIDE A PARALEGAL FOR
LEGALIZATION PROJECT.
ACCEPT BID: PITMAN PHOTO, INC.
PHOTOGRAPHIC SUPPLIES.
ACCEPT BID: MIRI CONSTRUCTION INC.
FOR CITYWIDE STREETS IMPROVEMENTS -
BELLE MEADE TRAFFIC .BARRIER
PROJECT.
ACCEPT BID: MET CONSTRUCTION FOR
ALLAPATTAH ACTIVITY CENTER PORCH
CANOPY.
ACCEPT BID: DELGADO PAVING FOR
CITYWIDE HIGHWAY IMPROVEMENT.
AUTHORIZE MANAGER TO NEGOTIATE AND
ENTER INTO AGREEMEN TIWH MIAMI
DADE JUNIOR COLLEGE FOR DEVELOPING
THE LIBERTY CITY EDUCATIONAL
CENTER: FURTHER ELIMINATING THE
$100,000 CONTRIBUTION REQUIREMENT
FROM THE COUNTY.
SCHEDULE PUBLIC HEARING FOR
OBJECTIONS TO COMPLETED
CONSTRUCTION BY WILLIAMS PAVING CO.
OF DOWNTOWN HIGHWAY IMPROVEMENT.
SCHEDULE PUBLIC HEARING FOR
OBJECTIONS OF COMPLETED
CONSTRUCTION BY RIC MAN
INTERNATIONAL OF EDGEWATER HIGHWAY
IMPROVEMENT.
SCHEDULE PUBLIC HEARING FOR
OBJECTIONS OF COMPLETED
CONSTRUCTION BY LANZA CONSTRUCTION
CO. OF FAIRLAWN NORTH SEWER.
ACCEPT COMPLETED WORK OF M. VILA
AND ASSOCIATES FOR LOCAL DRAINAGE
PROJECT.
ACCEPT COMPLETED WORK OF CAMPANELLA
CORPORATION FOR BICENTENNIAL PARK
WATER AND SEWER SERVICE,
JUNE 11, 1987
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OVAL CM NO.
87-522
87-523
87-254
87-525
87-526
87-527
87-528
87-529
87-530
87-531
87-533
DOCUMENT INDEX
ORDER BUENA VISTA HIGHWAY
IMPROVEMENT PHASE -III.
APPROVE ONE YEAR EXTENSION OF
EMPLOYMENT FOR OSCAR T. DIAZ
(POLICE DEPARTMENT)
APPROVE ONE YEAR EXTENSION OF
EMPLOYMENT FOR EVELIO RIZO (CITY
CLERK'S OFFICE).
CREATE SPECIAL TAXING DISTRICT FOR
BELLE MEADE ISLAND TO PROVIDE GUARD
SERVICE.
AUTHORIZE EXECUTION OF AGREEMENT
WITH SPORTS AUTHORITY AND DADE
COUNTY FOR OCNSTRUCTION OF WATER
AND SEWAGE FACILITIES FOR THE MIAMI
AREA.
ACCEPT GRANT FROM RICOM CORPORATION
AND ALLOCATE FUNDS FOR JAPANESE
GARDEN ON WATSON ISLAND.
AUTHORIZE AGREEMENT WITH JANIS
JOHNSON FOR PLANNING SERVICES TO
UPDATE ZONING ORDINANCE 9500.
APPROVE EMERGENCY CUSTODIAL
SERFJCES ON INTERIM BASIS AT
POLICE ADMINISTRATION BUILDING BY
HOWARD'S PROFESSIONAL SERVICES.
APPOINT LOU NUTA TO AD HOC MINORITY
ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR MIAMI ARENA.
ALLOCATE $15,000 FOR RENT OF MARINE
STADIUM FOR POPS BY THE BAY
CONCERT.
CLOSE PARTS OF FLAGLER STREET FOR
DOWNTOWN DESK DASH.
SCHEDULE PUBLIC HEARING ON PROPOSED
REVISION OF OCCUPATIONAL LICENSING
CODE.
CLOSE STREETS, AUTHORIZE ALCOHOLIC
BEVERAGES FOR 4TH OF JULY HAITIAN
CELEBRATION.
CONSIGNATION OF STREETS IN THE
LATIN QUARTER DISTRICT
PAW.Lopl.
JUNE 11, 1987
87-534
87-535
87-5 36
87-539
87-540
87-541
87-542
87-543
87-544
87-545
87-546
87-547
87-548
87-552
DOCUMENT INDEX
ACCEPT COMPLETED WORK OF LANZO
CONSTRUCTION FOR CITYWIDE SEWER
EXTENSION.
DESIGNATE NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS
PROJECT AS CATEGORY B; AUTHORIZE
PLAN AND DESIGN FOR PARK
RENOVATIONS.
ALLOCATE $1,791,000 OF (13TH
YEAR) COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT
BLOCK GRANT FUNDS TO DESIGNATED
SOCIAL SERVICES AGENCIES.
AUTHORIZE EXECUTION OF INDIVIDUAL
CONTRACTUAL AGREEMENTS WITH TEN
NEIGHBORHOOD ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
CORPORATIONS FROM 13TH YEAR
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT;
ALLOCATE AN ADDITIONAL $500000 FOR
COMMUNITY BASED ORGANIZATION
SELECTED IN THE WYNWOOD COMMERCIAL
DISTRICT.
AUTHORIZE ENTERING INTO A CONTRACT
WITH MIAMI CAPITAL DEVELOPMENT,
INC. PROVIDING $509000 TO ITS
REVOLVING LOAN FUND AND $120,000
FOR ADMINISTRATION.
ALLOCATE $48,000 AND $50,000 OF
THIRTEENTH YEAR COMMUNITY
DEVELOPMENT.GRANT FUNDS TO JEWISH
FAMILY SERVICES, INC. AND FLORIDA
HOUSING COOPERATIVE RESPECTIVELY,
FOR IMPROVEMENTS TO ELDERLY LOW
INCOME CRIME VICTIMS.
ALLOCATE $319000 OF COMMUNITY
DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT FUNDS TO
THE BLACK ARCHIVES HISTORY AND
RESEARCH FOUNDATION OF SOUTH
FLORIDA TO PROVIDE AN OVERTOWN
HISTORIC PRESENVATION PROJECT
AND AUTHORIZE CITY ENTERING INTO
AN AGREEMENT WITH SAID AGENCY.
AUTHORIZE EXECUTION OF AN AGREEMENT
WITH GREATER MIAMI UNITED FOR
$100,000 TO PROVIDE SPECIALIZED
ADMINISTRATIVE AND TECHNICAL
ASSISTANCE TO CITYWIDE COMMUNITY
BASES ORGANIZATIONS INVOLVED IN
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS.
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RETREVAL CON NO.
87-554
87-556
87�-560
87-561
87-562
87--563
AUTHORIZE SUBMITTAL OF AN AMENDMENT
TO THE APPROVED GRANT PROGRAM FINAL
STATEMENT TO THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF
HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT
REQUESTING FUNDS IN THE AMOUNT OF
$11,940s000 FOR THE 1987-88
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM.
RANTERS OF CITY FUNDS INTENDED FOR
FUND—RAISING EVENTS MUST AGREE IN
WRITING THAT EXPENDITURES OF GROSS
PROCEEDS OR PROFITS REALIZED FROM
FUND—RAISERS MUST HAVE PRIOR
APPROVAL BY THE CITY COMMISSION.
SOUTHSIDE PARR TO BE REZONED FOR
ONCOLOGY CENTER TO BE USED BY LIGA
CONTRA EL CANCER.
CONFIRM CONSTRUCTION OF SILVER
BLUFF HIGHWAY IMPROVEMENT.
ALLOCATE $2,500 FOR RENTAL OF
MARINE STADIUM FOR VICTORIA GILDRED
FOUNDATION CENTER.
ALLOCATE $3,200 FOR RENTAL OF
GUSMAN CENTER FOR "LET FREEDOM
RING".
ALLOCATE $3,200 IN SUPPORT OF MIAMI
CITY BALLET FOR RENTAL OF GUSMAN
CENTER.
ALLOCATION OF $4,500 TO UNITED
STATES OPEN TABLE TENNIS
CHAMPIONSHIP.
RESCHEDULE JUNE 25, 1987 COMMISSION
MEETING TO COMMENCE AT IsOO P.M.
+4 W j
JUNE 11. 1989
RE I A.CMNo.
87-567
87-572
87-573
87-574
87-575
87-576
87-577
87-581
87-582