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HomeMy WebLinkAboutCC 1988-09-09 Minutes0 a rITY OF ?ti.of * INCORP ORATE � le 96 C-b-FL� COMMISSION MINUTES �TI� �� ONSEPTEMBER 9, 1988 1986-1989 FISCAL YEAR TENTATIVE MID09T 3`r PwAm •r nK OFFICE OF THE CITY CLERK `3 cITV NAU. v INDEII MINUTES OF SPECIAL MEETING CITY COMMISSION OF MIAMI, FLORIDA SEPTEM3lR 9, 1989 ITEM SUBJECT LEGISLATION PAGE NO. NO. 1. A DISCUSSION OF PROPOSED MILLAGE RATE DISCUSSION 1-32 AND TENTATIVE BUDGET FOR THE CITT OF R 86-830 MIAMI. 9/9/88 B. PUBLIC !OARING PORTION HELD. C. DIRECT ADMINISTRATION NOT TO ALLOW BUDGET LINE ITEM TRANSFERS IN EXCESS OF $50,000 WITHOUT COMMISSION APPROVAL. 2. FIRST READING ORDINANCE: DEFINE AND ORDINANCE 32 DESIGNATE TERRITORIAL LIMITS OF THE FIRST READING CITY OF MIAMI FOR PURPOSES OF 9/9/88 TAXATION - FIXING MILLAGE AND LEVYING TAXES FOR FISCAL YEAR BEGINNING OCTOBER 1, 1988. 3. FIRST READING ORDINANCE: MAKE ORDINANCE 33-35 APPROPRIATIONS FOR THE CITY OF MIAMI FIRST READING FOR FISCAL YEAR ENDING SEPTEMBER 30, 9/9/88 1989. 4. A. DISCUSSION OF PROPOSED MILLAGE RATE DISCUSSION 35-40 AND TENTATIVE BUDGET FOR THE DOWNTOWN 9/9/88 DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY. B. PUBLIC HEARING PORTION HELD. C. BRIEF COMMENTS AND TEMPORARY DEFERRAL - CUSTODIAL SERVICES AT POLICE DEPARTMENT (SEE LABEL 7). 5. FIRST READING ORDINANCE: DEFINE AND ORDINANCE 40-43 DESIGNATE TERRITORIAL LIMITS OF THE FIRST READING DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT OF THE 9/9/88 CITY OF MIAMI - FIXING MILLAGE AND LEVYING TAXES IN SAID DISTRICT FOR FISCAL YEAR BEGINNING OCTOBER 1, 1988. 6. A - FIRST READING ORDINANCE: MAKE ORDINANCE 43-48 APPROPRIATIONS FOR THE DOWNTOWN FIRST READING DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY FOR FISCAL TEAR M 88-831 ENDING SEPTEMBER 30, 1989. B - AMEND 9/9/88 PROPOSED ORDINANCE MAKING APPROPRIATIONS FOR THE DDA TO INCLUDE MINORITY PARTICIPATION REQUIREMENTS. 7. A. RECONSIDER PREVIOUSLY TAKEN VOTE M 88-832 48-51 CONCERNING CONTRACT FOR CUSTODIAL R 88-833 SERVICES AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. 9/9/88 B. APPROVE EXTENSION OF EXISTING CONTRACT WITH PRODUCTION ASSOCIATES, INC. FOR CUSTODIAL SERVICES TO THE POLICE ADMINISTRATION BUILDING FOR AN ADDITIONAL YEAR. MINUTES OF THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING T: _!SCLTSS 1988-89 FISCAL YEAR TENTATIVE BUDGET CITY COMMISSION OF MIAMI, FLORIDA On the 9th day of September, 1988, the City Commission of Miami, Florida, not at its regular meeting place in the City Hall, 3500 Pan American Drive, Miami, Florida in Special Session to hold the First Public Hearing for the 1968-89 Fiscal Year Budget. The meeting was called to order at 5:15 p.m. by Vice Mayor Rosario Kennedy with the following members of the Commission found to be present: Commissioner Victor De Yurre Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Vice Mayor Rosario Kennedy ABSENT: Mayor Xavier L. Suarez Cesar Odio, City Manager Jorge L. Fernandez, City Attorney Matty Hirai, City Clerk Commissioner Dawkins led those present in a pledge of allegiance to the flag. 1. A DISCUSSION OF PROPOSED MILLAGE RATE AND TENTATIVE BUDGET FOR THE CITY OF MIAMI. B. PUBLIC HEARING PORTION HELD. C. DIRECT ADMINISTRATION NOT TO ALLOW BUDGET LINE ITEM TRANSFERS IN EXCESS OF $50,000 WITHOUT COMMISSION APPROVAL. Vice Mayor Kennedy: This is the first public hearing for 1988-89 fiscal year budget. After the City Manager states some facts on the record regarding the proposed millage rate, we'll open the floor for the public hearing. Anybody wishing to speak can do so for two minutes in the best interest of letting everybody who wishes speak. So, Mr. Surana... Mr. Manohar Surana: Vice Mayor and the member of the City Commission, item IA, percentage increase in millage over roll back rate response. Mr. Plummer: Excuse me, Mr. Surana, hold on just a moment. Do we have an indication whether or not Commissioner De Yurre is planning on attending the session or not? I mean, out of courtesy, I think we ought to at least inquire and if it's a matter of five minutes, we'll wait so we don't have to go through and chew our cabbage twice, Madam Vice Mayor. Vice Mayor Kennedy: Fine. AT THIS POINT, THE COMMISSION TOOK A RECESS FOR SIX MINUTES. Vice Mayor Kennedy: OK, so, as I was saying, Mr. De Yurre, when you were not here, that after the City Manager states some facts on the record regarding the millage rate, we'll open the meeting for discussion limiting everybody to two minutes. Mr. Surana. Mr. Surana: The percentage increase in millage over rollback rate response, three and twenty-six one hundredths of one percent. B, specific purpose for which ad valorem taxes revenues are being increased. Aesponsel partial funding for public safety services. Cost; two million, nine hundred tbirteea thousand, nine hundred fifteen dollar, percentage, hundred. Now City Commission listen, the response to citizens cosssents. 1 saftdpbos 4, �3a Is I Vice Mayor Kennedy: OK, we have three people who have signed in. Mrs. Gertrude Hunt. Go ahead, ma'am. Ms. Gertrude Hunt: Hello, my name is Gertrude Hunt. I live at 2845 Cocoanut Avenue in the Grove. The house I've been living in I have been there for 20 years. The house is set on a SO x ISO foot lot. Now, I live there with my husband who is retired and we recently received our new assessed evaluation of this property. Last year the property was assessed at $51,226. Our property value, as of January lot will be $105,816. What kind of voodoo economics are we dealing with here? This is absolutely ridiculous, unconscionable. Mr. Plummer: Ma'am, do you understand that this City Commission does have anything to do with setting the assessment or the valuation. Vice Mayor Kennedy: Correct, that is the county. Mr. Plummer: That is strictly a purview of the county. We have nothing to do with that, ma'am. Ms. Hunt: Well, what is the purpose of this meeting? Mr. Plummer: There is, so that you'll know. There is what is called, a board of equalization. If you'll look at the bottom of your notice, it tells you that you have until a certain date to register and file to appear before that board to contest that assessment. It is not before this board. We have nothing whatsoever to do with assessments, that is solely the purview of the county. Mr. Dawkins: The purpose of this... Mr. Plummer: Do you have your bill there with you, your proposal? Look on the bottom and it says to a certain date you have the right to file for a hearing. Vice Mayor Kennedy: And I believe that that deadline is September the 19th. Mr. Plummer: Yes, their last meeting is the 19th of September. And that's where you have to go now, excuse me, you have two shots. You have one shot before the board of equalization and you have a shot before the county commission. Different, but you have two shots. One, you ask for the value assessment to be reduced. The other one to have your taxes reduced. Ms. Hunt: Oh, and this is just for the budget. Mr. Dawkins: Yes, ma'am, this is... Mr. Plummer: Excuse me, ma'am? Ms. Hunt: This meeting. Mr. Dawkins: Yes, ma'am, this is the City of Miami's budget... Ms. Hunt: City of Miami budget. Mr. Dawkins: ... where we take... Ms. Hunt: OK. Mr. Dawkins: ... those taxes that come from that rate that was set and then we are attempting to most the needs. Ms. Hunt: Yes, wall I still... Mr. Plummer: You're better off than I am. Ms. Hunt: Why? Mr. Plummar: They raised my assesaaient, I think $22,000 asd bee"as I'm d public official, God help as if I were to go down and complais. You're a citizen, you can go and complain. 2eptd�es 1, l!# Me. Hunt: Well, not that - it doesn't make me feel any better to know that your assessment has gone up considerably too. But meanwhile, I think - I'm glad that people here realize what's happening. Mr. Plummer: Yes, ma'am. Ms. Hunt: Thank you. Vice Mayor Kennedy: Thank you, ma'am. The next one is Leslie Lilly. Me. Leslie Lilly: I was here for the same reason. But while I'm here, I would like to say that I've been... Mr. Plummer: Pull the microphone up, please. Ms. Lilly: ... recently I've been with Major DeYoung about the crime in Coconut Grove and he stated that part of the City of Miami budget, which is $5,000 a night, is spent on protecting the Grove on Friday and Saturday night which is $5,000. And we as residents of Coconut Grove cannot even use Coconut Grove because we can't even enter Coconut Grove but yet our property taxes have been increased 50 percent and I think you, as Commissioners, should know this and I think Mr. Odio lives in the North Grove, I don't know if he's tried to go into the Grove on the weekend but I f ind it abominable that our taxes are already so high and that they're increasing them 50 percent and the money's being wasted to control Coconut Grove when we can't even use our own village. And I think you Commissioners should know about this. Mr. Plummer: Major De Young told you that. Ms. Lilly: That's correct, $5,000 a night and he wants more money from the City of Miami because he wants to add more police protection. And I don't think that's the answer. I think the answer is to perhaps put some curbs on these youths coming into the Grove and just cruising. At 4:00 in the morning I have cars rip up my lawn, go by with the blasting radios. Four in the morning every single weekend, yelling obscenities out of their windows. Mr. Plummer: I'm sure that Chief Anderson will talk to Major DeYoung about that increase he's requesting. Ms. Lilly: Well, I was supposed to also have a meeting with Mr. Odio and the new Chief of Police and they did not show up and I arrived at their office and about Hibiscus Street and the problem that we're having there with burglaries, thefts - Leslie Lilly, remember I had a meeting with you 3:00 o'clock. When? About a month ago. And it was with the public works department. We were to meeting in your office with the new Chief of Police about Hibiscus Street. I work at Steel Hector & Davis. Mr. Odio: Right. Was all my staff there? Was the director of public works there? Ms. Lilly: He vas there but you weren't there. We couldn't proceed without you. I have the crime security report in my area, as a matter of fact, I contend that my property values in the four block radius around we has property values have gone down significantly because of the crime in the area and I would like to reschedule a meeting with you. Mr. Odio: Fine, go ahead and do it. Ms. Lilly: And I will call your office tomorrow. Mr. Odio: Yes, and I'm sorry I wasn't there but something must have happened because I... Ms. Lilly: I think something happened, you weren't feeling well so... Mr. Odio: Oh. Ms. Lilly: All right, OK. Vice Mayor Kennedy: OK, thank you, No. Lilly. Cmmissioners, that's the ea# of the public hearing. 3 ieptM►Mes 4, !t## Mr. Plusseer: I thought there were three. Vice Mayor Kennedy: No, the other one pulled out. So then, I'll entertain a notion to close the public hearing. Mr. Plummer: Well, I'll so move since no one also of the public is present and wishes to be heard, I'll move that the public hearing be closed. Mr. Dawkins: Second. Vice Mayor Kennedy: OK. Any further discussion? Call the roll. AT THIS POINT, UPON MOTION DULY MADE BY COMMISSIONER PLUMMIER AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER DAWKINS THE PUBLIC DARING PORTION OF THIS ITEM WAS CLOSED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE. AYES: Cosnissioner victor De Yurre Cosissioner Miller J. Dawkins Cosmissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Vice Mayor Rosario Kennedy NOES: None. ABSENT: Mayor Xavier L. Suarez Mr. Surana: Now we can go to item two. Mr. Plummer: Excuse me? Mr. Surana: Now we can go to item two, first reading. Mr. Plummer: No, no, no, no. We're going to go to D as in David. Mr. Surana: OK. Mr. Plunrwr: Mr. Manager, I indicated to you the other day to amend the budget to increase the PSAs to 100 strength. Now, what amendmsnt is needed to do that? Mr. Odio: Nothing, we've done it. Mr. Pluwmer: It's been done? Mr. Odio: Yes, air. Mr. Plusmer: And I will see within the very near future... Mr. Odio: We will begin as of October lot a hiring procedure to raise it up to a hundred PSAs. Mr. Plumper: OK. Vice Mayor Kennedy: How many do we actually have? Mr. Odio: I think the last count we had, it was forty-one budgeted. Vice Mayor Kennedy: Forty, forty-two, forty-one. Mr. Pluasser: No, excuse me, budgeted. Mr. Odio: Budgeted. Mr. Plusher: You have lase than twenty I think at the present time. Mr. Odio: We will try to have all of them aboard as soon as we can. Mr. Plusher: OK, if that's the case then I have no amandments to the budget. Mr. Dawkins: All right. At the budget workshops, I said to spend the $47,000 for police uniform that had not been spent. Conwissioner Plug r w"ts to see the specs for the '`D-'a9 budget. 4 Oe�tP !r • Mr. Plummer: Teo, air. Mr. Dawkins: I went it amended that now you order the $87,000 worth of uniforms on the present budget because it's in this year s budget and it's for this year's specs and I want it amended that you get the requisition out this week. Mr. Plummer: Wall, you wouldn't amend this budget to do it, you just instruct the Manager to do it. This is for the budget of next year. Mr. Dawkins: OK, I instruct the Manager to do that, OK? Now, all right then, what - wall, J.L. if I wanted to instruct the Manager to purchase those rescue vehicles immediately, do I do that now? Mr. Plummer: You'd have to amend the fire budget. No, excuse me, no, that's from a bond issue so that's separate. Mr. Dawkins: OK. All right, then, Mr. Manager, tell me, how luny people are employed in the computer department. Mr. Odio: Oh, wait a minute. How much is the total... Mr. Carlos Smith: Is that for next year's budget? Mr. Odio: Yes. Mr. Plummer: That's what we're talking about. Mr. Smith: Sixty. Mr. Dawkins: Sixty? Mr. Smith: Sixty is budgeted for next year. Mr. Dawkins: All right, sixty. OK, I would want the Manager to understand that I will be monitoring the computer department in that I've requested things for two years and nothing has happened and yet the computer department continues to get more work but it doesn't add any people. Nov, computers can only do what people tall it to do. So, if we constantly increase the workload for the computer department and don't increase the manpower, I don't think we're being fair. The other thing is - OK then I don't have no other amendmants. Vice Mayor Kennedy: Mr. Do Yurre. Mr. De Yurre: Yes, ma'am... Mr. Plummer: Just so, excuse me, just for the record, it's not an amendment, Mr. Surana, but let me remind you, sir, that it's relations Commissioner and I felt extremely strong that we're going to approve the budget in total for the computer department that they cannot spend more than 1/12th of their budgeted without coming back to this Commission for approval for an additional amount of money. But we're going to go ahead and approve it in total. I'm sorry, go ahead. Vice Mayor Kennedy: Go ahead, Mr. De Yurre. Mr. De Yurre: Yes, I want to got back to the computer department. Carlos. We were talking the other day about the now system that we want to implement next year. Mr. Carlos Smith: That's correct. You're talking about the hardware or the software? Hardware? Mr. Do Turre: Well, you mood the software for the hardware, right? Mr. Smith: Teo. Mr. Plummer: Well, we're basically changing hardware. Mr. Dawkins You goad the hardwire for the software. S 6W !,, .LL�y Mr. De Turre: Well, you need... Mr. Smith: We're changing the hardware... Mr. Plummer: No, we're basically changing hardware. We'll utilize a lot of the software that's there. Mr. Smith: Plus we also have an RFP that we're going through evaluation. Mr. Plummer: But that's a different thing, that is for entirely new programs. That would be mostly using the same software and peripherals that we're presently using that are compatible with the new hardware which we're getting. Mr. De Turre: When do you expect, if you were to get Commission approval within the next 30 days, when do you expect the have the system fully operational? Mr. Smith: The plans, and they are right now just very high level plans, is to come to Commission on the 27th for approval. If we get approval, then we expect to have the systems in operation within three to six months. Mr. De Turre: What kind of savings are we looking at? Mr. Plummer: Careful. Mr. Smith: I'm really not in a position to give you an exact figure right now. We ware working yesterday in getting some figures together. I have not looked at the figures in detail. I'm not too sure at this point in time, but I would certainly say more than half a million dollars but... Mr. De Yurre: Annually. Mr. Smith: Annually. Mr. De Yurre: Or just for the last six months? Mr. Smith: No, for the next fiscal year, more than half a million. We have to look at the other years after that. Of course, that's coupled with moving out of the present facility. Mr. De Yurre: I'm looking at a net figure. Mr. Smith: I really... Mr. De Yurre: How much, you know, if we have X amount budgeted for the computer department and we implement this system, how much of a savings is there going to be at the end of the year? Mr. Smith: I really cannot give you an exact figure right now. Vice Mayor Kennedy: It's premature to tell at this point, yes. Mr. Plummer: Wait a minute, it's misleading now. Are you speaking about for the first year or out to the sixth year? Mr. De Yurre: No, I'm talking about this coming year. Mr. Plummer: This year, the savings will be in excess of a million dollars, this year. Mr. Smith : That is correct because we don't have to make that first payment. Mr. Plummer: But next year, it will not be as much, so don't be misleading. Mr. Smith: That is correct. That is correct. Mr. De Yurre: So we're talking about saving a million dollars over the operation that we have going on nowadays. Mr. Smith: You have to realize also that part of that savings is out of police and fire bond money. That is the million two that payment that is duo this year. If we upgrade and do not make that payment I believe approximately 6 ieptowwr of seven hundred and some thousand dollars are police and fire bond money and $498,000 come from the general fund. Mr. De Turre: Four eighty-eight from the general fund... Mr. Smith: That's correct. Mr. De Turre: ... and seven, yam seven... Mr. Smith: Seven, a little bit more than seven, seven fifty probably. Mr. De Turre: Seven fifty from the police and firm... Mr. Smith: Bond monies, I believe. Mr. Do Turre: OK. And that was money was earmarked... Mr. Smith: To make the payment on the computer, that is correct. Mr. Do Turre: OK. What are we going to do with that money now? Mr. Smith: Well, we haven't had an approval of the computer yet. Mr. De Turre: Well, if you get an approval of the computer. Mr. Smith: It's up to the Manager. Mr. Plummer: Well, you don't have that... Mr. Smith: I said it's up to you, you know... Mr. Plummer: You don't have that much out of the general fund. For example, one of the major problems of approving this new transition is the fact that the police bond issue has no money left in it. That's the biggest problem that we're experiencing right now trying to get the money to put the new system together. How does the police department contribute when their bond money they had used in the past is completely dried up? So, what the Manager is doing now is trying to scurry up other money to bring up and pay for the system out of the police department so that they can replenish where the money came from in the bonds. Mr. De Turre: But was that money that was earmarked for this situation? Mr. Plummer: The bond money was. Mr. De Yurre: OK, then how... Mr. Plummer: The bond money was, yes, but it was not a part of general funds. Mr. De Yurre: OK, but on my question is, if we have bond money which is for what, capital improvement purchase? Mr. Plummer: That was a 20 million dollar bond issue of the police department. Mr. De Yurre: OK, that was for the purchase of equipment, it wasn't for... Vice Mayor Kennedy: Capital outlets. Mr. Plummer: Capital outlay. i Mr. De Yurre: Capital outlay. Mr. Plummer: Everything but salaries. Mr. De Yurre: Salary and normal day to day... Mr. Plussmer: Not, no, no, no. No salaries are out of bond issues. Never. Mr. De Yurre: Nor electricity? i Mr. Plummer: No, no, no. No operating expense. 7 Mr. Odio: No, no, no. No operating expense. Mr. De Yurre: Well, that's what I'm saying. You can't have that, it's only capital outlay. Now, the seven fifty that was supposed to go towards the computer payment this coming year, you tell me it's not there. Is that what you're telling a:e? Mr. Plummer: Well, you're speaking of the seven fifty that previously had come from bond money, last year. Mr. De Turre: Well that's what I'm talking about? Mr. Odio: It's not there. Mr. Plummer: It's not there. Mr. De Turret Was that money earmarked for the payment? Mr. Plummer: Teo, the reason for that, Victor, is, is that this program that we're now exiting into the new has been a five year program. OK? So those monies were dedicated and restricted from the police bond, from the fire bond, and other bonds that were involved. Mr. De Turre: So it's supposed to be there. Mr. Odio: The amount... Mr. Plummer: Except the police bond money ran out. Mr. Odio: It's in the capital... Mr. De Yurre: But why did it run out if it's supposed to be earmarked for this? Mr. Plummer: Because it vas only 20 million total and the money's gone. Vice Mayor Kennedy: Mr. Manager. Mr. Odio: But we're talking about two different budgets. You have a budget of capital improvements and that's where the money is and it's not here in the general fund. So, I mean, if you're talking about saving monies from the general fund, that's not the case. Mr. De Yurre: No, no, I'm talking - I just rant to get... Mr. Plummer: No, no, he just wants to know where the money is coming from to pay for it. Mr. De Yurre: Tell me where I'm wrong, where in my theory I'm wrong, I'm just trying to understand this. If we had 20 million dollars for capital outlay from bonds that the voters approved to go towards capital improvement of the police and fire department and if within that budget of that 20 million it was earmarked that there was $750,000 to go towards this payment of the computers department and the money isn't there, then what happened to that money? Mr. Odio: No, the money is there. Mr. De Yurre: Well then... Vice Mayor Kennedy: Well tell him where it is. Mr. Odio: But it's set aside in the capital improvement budget to pay for this equipment if we did not... Mr. Plummer: But it's no longer there, that's dry. x Mr. Odio: No, we have the money not aside for the payment. Mr. Smith: No, the payment for the... Mr. Plummer: This payment. < Mr. Odio: Teo. Mr. Plummer: Teo. Mr. Odio: But since we're not going to make that payment, then that money stays in the capital improvement budget. Mr. De Turre: So then the money - well cause Somebody said that the money wasn't there. Mr. Odio: No, the money is set aside in the capital improvement budget for one year. Now, if the money... Mr. Plummer: But there's no money there for the next year. Mr. Odio: No, because the last payment was this coming year. Since we're going to make... Mr. Plummer: Excuse so, Mr. Odio... Vice Mayor Kennedy: Mr. Manager, we're hearing a no from you and we're hearing a yes... Mr. Odio: Well, I don't know what they're saying. Let me explain. Mr. Plummer: There is no money, in my understanding, there is no money there for the following year payment. The cap... Mr. Odio: No. INAUDIBLE COMMENTS NOT ENTERED INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD. Mr. Plummer: That's correct, the following year. Vice Mayor Kennedy: Tom, not for next - no. OK. Mr. Plummer: That's correct. Mr. De Yurre: Well, do we have the seven fifty for next year? INAUDIBLE COMMENTS NOT ENTERED INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD. Mr. Odio: It is in the capital improvement budget is there. Mr. De Yurre: The money is there. Mr. Odio: It can only be - and it can only be used for the purposes that in the bonds were sold for. Mr. Do Yurre: OK, what was the comment that it wasn't there and you had to get monies from all these different things to make it up? Mr. Odio: No, I don't know who said that. I'm saying clearly that the money... Mr. De Yurre: I thought that - I don't know if J.L. said that just now. Mr. Plummer: The money of the capital improvement bonds for the police department, as I am understanding is dry after this payment. Mr. Odio: Oh, if we make the next payment. But, if we haven't made the nest payment... Mr. Smith: That is cor... Mr. Plummer: Yes, if we make this payment. Mr. De Yurro: OK, so then this seven fifty is available. Mr. Plummor: From that fund? 0 x y -ew: Mr. De Turre: Tom. Mr. Plummer: Oh, it's still there. Mrs. Kennedy: It is. Mr. Plummer: Too, because we're - under the proposal, we are not making this payment. OK? Vice Mayor Kennedy: So that's what the Commissioner is saying we don't make the payment, the money is there. Ve'll leave the money there. Mr. Plummer: Exactly, and that money will carry over and make next year's payment and then the fund is completely dry. Vice Mayor Kennedy: Dry. Mr. De Turret Vhat happens to that money if we approve the computer... Mr. Plummer: It's one more. Mr. De Turret ... the new computer system? Mr. Odio: It would go to the payment and the first year that it comes through which would be October of 1990. Mr. De Yurre: OK. Nov the $488,000 from the general fund. Mr. Odio: What is that? Mr. De Yurre: Four hundred eighty-eight thousand savings. Mr. Odio: Veil, before you go on a limb, Carlos, to say that you're going to save four eighty-eight, that we don't know what we're going to save... Mr. Smith: No, no, I did not say that and specified that unless the equipment Is approved, we cannot may that. Mr. Plummer: He didn't say that, he said what is from the general fund. Mr. Smith: The reason why I hesitate to give a figure is that all of this is tied in to, number one, getting approval on the upgrade. Number two, moving to the... Mr. De Yurre: Let's say you get the approval. Mr. Smith: The other thing is moving to the police department, it means most probably some capital investment over there so last night... Mr. De Turret You can use this seven fifty for that. Right? Sure, capital outlay. Mr. Plummer: Veil, you also have, wait a minute, you also have just in excess of $300,000 moving from this building setting up the new equipment and moving the peripherals and putting it online. Mr. Smith: We have a preliminary estimate of about three hundred and some thousand dollars to get in that... Mr. Plummer: Yes, so that's got to come out of this money. Mr. Smith: To get in that room ready. Mr. Plummer: What we're doing, Victor, is just the opposite of what we did when we vent on line with the new ones. Ve were operating in the police department at that time. When we got the new ones, we got this building in the Grove. And when we did that, we set everything up here and immediately vent on line and now we're just doing the reverse and going back to the police station. Mr. De Yurre: Answer this. The capital improvement that you have to make at the police station to get it prepared to do the transfer and get the M W system in there, that can come out of this $750 capital bond improvement. ail 10 iertwoor !, low _ ; Vice Mayor Kennedy: Can somebody answer that? Mr. Plummer: Don't do that. Mr. De Turre: Hell? Mr. Plummer: Then where are you going to have the money next year for the payment? Mr. Smith! One of the... let me make this... Mr. De Turre: Hell, then what about the year after that? Mr. Smith: I have to make this statement. We have been negotiating with UNISYS for sometime and one of the things that have delayed bringing this to a head is the financing. Here still working on that, but I - you know, last night we were still negotiating with them on getting some more concessions and we got some more concessions from them but really until you are able to see the numbers, in my opinion, and see the whole picture, I think, in my opinion, it would be premature to assume any savings at this point in time. Mr. De Turre: Well then, what's the use in doing it? Could you end up with a loss? Mr. Smith: A loss... Mr. Plummer: Could we end up in a loss? Mr. De Turre: Yes, end up losing money as opposed... Mr. Odio: Why are we moving... Mr. Plummer: There's only one way that you could come out not ahead. Remember this that we're entering into that we're talking about now is six for five. OK? In other words, we're getting six years for five years of payment. That's why it could be misleading about this particular year with no payment being made. Nov, the only thing that could bring us down to no savings or a loss, we wrote into this new contract that at any time during the six year period that we are operating, should they come out with something that we feel is revolutionary or something that would meet our needs better than that which we're putting in, that we have an option to upgrade. And if we did, that is the only place that I can remember in the contract would bring us down to a break even or possibly not, but that would be a decision by this Commission if, in fact, that kind of machinery. For example, the machine that we're buying today is a dual processor. We saw machines that have up to four processors. We don't need those machines, they're much more sophisticated. What we use today is one processor for police which has the security and confidentiality and we use the second processor for everything else. And one of the things that we're going to be doing in the very near future is to go through what is there now, for example, there is no reason, in my estimation, why we have to be confidential about police payroll. And that's on that processor. If the day ever came where we had to go to three processors, then we would have that option in this contract to go back and upgrade. But at this particular time, there's no need for it. These machines that we're looking at today are, what, 24 billion bytes of memory, unlimited working space? Mr. Smith: I believe it's 44 up to 288. I mean it's... Mr. Plummer: The numbers just boggle your mind, you know, they're unliaited. These machines are about ten times faster than the machines that we're presently using. Vice Mayor Kennedy: In probably half the space. Mr. Plummer: The what? Vice Mayor Kennedy: In probably half the space that we use. Mr. Plummer: No, less than that. The machines that we're 19ok4ag at today are about a fourth the size of the machines that we presently have. MoM 11 septenbRr 4, i "a thst's, excuse no. that's just the processors because we're still keeping our own peripherals, printers and all of that. The danger, victor, is this, and I understand where you're coming from. Is there a savings there? I would be very hesitant to try to realize in this budget any savings based out over the five or six year period of time because all of that has been put into the configuration. In other words, we know that we've got five point two - is it five point two, Cesar? live point two million dollars to pay and it's a matter of how we're going to pay it. Are we going to pay it out over the six years - over five years. Well but you don't have - you even have an option and they're not to pay it for the ffret two and, if we have an interest rate of less than seven, it's almost six something, we negotiated that out. Mr. De Turre: Where's the money going to come from to pay for this? Mr. Odio: The first payment will come out of the capital improvement project and that's why I delayed it for two years. The first payment will not be until October of 1990... Mr. Plummer: Beyond this one. Mr. Odio: ... and beyond this one. Mr. Plummer: That's correct. Mr. Odio: And - no, it will be two budgets from now. That's why I did it in October. That gives us chance to replenish what we're going to have to sell bonds for police eventually, next year, the other. And it gives you time to replace it. What you don't want to do is obligate yourselves to pay from general fund because then you would really have a problem, with the millage cap. Mr. Plummer: You're in serious trouble. Mr. De Yurre: Well, if the voters don't approve the bonds, then we got to pay It from the general fund. Mr. Odio: I'll suggest to you that three years from now, it's just you have a millage cap in the City and you're - I don't want to get into it. Mr. De Yurre: OK, thank you. Vice Mayor Kennedy: What else? Mr. Plummer: Let me just go one step further. One of the things that I think that we're going to be looking at in the next year, or within the next year. There are a lot of individual assignments that are being done on computer, like in the police department that today, for no other reason than the fact that we don't have the facilities are on the main frame that do not need to be on the main frame. For give example, let me just use the burglar alarms. All of the information today on the burglar alarms are in the main fame which could be called up from any computer. It's not necessary, it's really about three or four computers that are necessary that need to access that information and I'm not speaking now of confidentially, but we have stand alones today that can have memory up to a hundred million bytes. Stand alones like you and I have in our office and they could, in fact, which we're looking at right now, is to have that information which is necessary for that department and not overload the main frames. It's just not necessary. $o that's what we're looking at right now. Vice Mayor Kennedy: Thank you, Carlos. Mr. De Yurre: I'd like to get into parks and recreation. Mr. Plumrser: You know, speaking of budget, did we got the air conditioning fixed? It sure doesn't feel like it. Mr. Odio: Teo, sir. Mr. Do Yurre: I still have a problem with the enterprise fund as to the amount of monies that they're making compared to what was projected to be wade and then basing a projection which isn't costing to fruition for this year using that as a bass for next year. for example, I'm looking at Miami gpriag• 12 deptewber 9, 10" h Golf Course and this facility was expected to generate $729,500 this year. Now, the revenue report for 7/31/88 showed $494,000 to that date. We're talking about $230,000 difference from what was projected to what has actually been received. Mr. Al Howard: What we've done after our discussion Wednesday, we went back and projected for the year and because of some of the difficulties that we had, lost days and weather and so on, we brought it down from what we made through July and August and projecting through September. At Miami Springs, we're projecting that we'll wind up with approximately $560,000 in revenues so we wouldn't want to project higher than that for next year when we had on there the eight hundred and twelve. So what we've done, we've readjusted that to show that with the $580,000 we're going - our income for the year, as I explained on the raise of $2.00 on the carts and $2.00 on the greens fees still holds true for $120,000 for the year on income at each golf course, which would bring it up to approximately six ninety-two. Our expenses are reduced down to six forty, six fifty-six, approximately we'll make about $30,000 net at the golf course. Mr. De Yurre: As opposed to what - what was the projection you had? Mr. Howard: Just a second. Well, the budget vas eight hundred so if the projection was a hundred and eleven thousand, I believe. Mr. De Yurre: So now we're going to be profiting 80 thousand less. Mr. Howard: Yes, 30... Mr. De Yurre: Net. We're going to be netting $80,000 less. Mr. Howard: Yes, sir. Mr. De Yurre: OK, do you have figures or did you do the same thing for the other... Mr. Howard: Just to give you the figures on Malreese, we recalculated again, instead of the eight twelve again there, we went into $579,000. For what we know we made exactly through August 31st. We projected the income from the concessionaires and the golf course from the end of the year greens fees. Again, the same figures I gave you last week for the golf carts, they increased $2.00 at 20,000 rounds and the 40,000 rounds of greens fees at $2.00 again is $120,000. So, that calculates to income of $697,000. So, our expenses of $662,000 bring that net profit at the end of the year to about $35,000. For the... Mr. De Yurre: And what was the other net - what was the other profit that you were showing? Mr. Howard: Originally? Mr. De Yurre: Yes. Mr. Howard: It was ninety-seven. Wednesday, we had calculated ninety-seven. Mr. De Yurre: So it's $60,000 less. Mr. Howard: It's a total of almost $120,000 leas than originally projected. This is realistic based on the number of players and the consistency of the play that we projected. Mr. De Yurre: What made you change, you know, because my concern is that, you know, what's to make me believe you any more now than I did Wednesday when now you've gone ahead after Wednesday to change figures. You know, I'm talking about a credibility issue in general because I'm not happy with this book right here. You know, I.... Mr. Odio: You can always vote against it, Commissioner, but what I'm going to suggest... Mr. De Yurre: No, right now I'm voting against it but let me tell you something... 13 September 9, It" Mr. Odio: What I could suggest to you is this, the credibility question that you say, this group, the enterprise fund, it's two years ago, four years ago, we had to subsidize it over a million and a half dollars a year because they never could break even. This year they're going to almost break even.... they have made up, over three years, a million dollars a year that the City doesn't have to contribute from the general fund any more. So I believe that they do have credibility. Mr. De Yurre: Cesar, ghat I'm talking - let me tell you something, when I'm talking about credibility, I'm not saying that they're not doing the job that needs to be done. What I'm saying is that if I'm... let's say I'm the rookie here, this is the first time I'm in this process. What's to make me think, Wednesday, when I brought up the issue those numbers were great numbers. There was nothing wrong with those numbers. Nov all of a sudden today, Friday, two days later, those numbers were not right. What makes me think now... Mr. Odio: No, that's it, that's a valid point and I question myself why they did not - why they were not more careful in the projection that was done four months ago. And they should have been more careful about it and I'm glad you pointed it out to them. But, as far as the credibility of an enterprise fund, and I was in the red for a million dollars, and they have broke even, I think that they deserve a lot of credit. Mr. De Yurre: My credibility goes to these numbers right here. OK? Mr. Odio: You're entitled to question them and I think they should have been more careful in their projection. However, I was concerned about the bottom line of the enterprise fund. As long as they didn't come to me and they can prove to we that we are not going to have to contribute general fund monies, if we have $100,000 less profit, but at least we're not paying it from tax monies, I will tolerate that but I think they should have been more careful in when they went back and changed those numbers. Mr. De Turret What is the bottom figure and the bottom line taking the whole enterprise fund system? UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: What, the whole enterprise system? Mr. De Turret You, what's going to be the net figure projected? UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: For '89? Or are you talking about 188, the end of this fiscal year? Mr. De Turret How much? Mr. Plummer: This budget. UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: For '89, we're looking... Mr. De Turret This caning year. UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: The next year. Mr. Plummer: I stole somebody's book. Right now, you're estimating... UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: Roughly $300,000. Mr. Plummer: How much? UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: Roughly $300.000 between all the enterprise funds. Mr. De Turret Profit. UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKERS Yes, sir. Mr. Plummer: Wait a minute. Tell me again. UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: $300,000. Mr. Odio: The enterprise funds added together will come up with a bottom line of $300,000. 11► fsptember 0, 1"*- �_ • Mr. Plummer: Nov many enterprise funds do you have? Mr. Odio: Mall, you have seven, seven. Mr. Plummer: You're speaking of... Mr. Odio: I'm not, I'm excluding... Mr. Plummer: ... Dinner Key Marina? Mr. Odio: Veit, I'm excluding - marina is breaking even. Dinner Key will break even this coming year. It will not deliver the profit of a million dollars a year that it used to because of the debt service and we are in partial construction, will be until January. Mr. Plummer: Wall, let me join in with Commissioner De Yurre because I've told you one and I'll prove you wrong even understanding that projections are just that. I will tell you you are so far off on Miamarina that it's not funny. OK. There is absolutely no way that you're going to do, at Miamarina what you're projecting. It's just impossible to do this year and I'm saying to you that the projections, I understand, are a guesstimate, but I don't even know how anybody could guesstimate that we're going to do $842,000 at Miamarina when we're into a law suit. The marina is only half completed. Mr. Odio: No, no, no. It's fully operational. Mr. Plummer: Well, it's fully operational, but you don't want to walk out on the dock and neither do I. Mr. Odio: Well, it is being used. Mr. Plummer: Because if the dock doesn't fall, the fire line will squirt you off. One of the two, you've got your... Mr. Odio: No, it's being used, Commissioner, it's being used. Mr. Plummer: You got your choice, I mean, you know. It's operational, all right. Mr. Howard: It's true that when you put down a figure it's an estimate or a guesstimate but with it operational and the number of berths that we have by the number of ship■ that we expect in there, we really feel we can do this. And we're going to try and project this and into making sure that we do accomplish this boats. Vice Mayor Kennedy: What do you have there, 250 slips? Mr. Howard: Two hundred and ten. Vice Mayor Kennedy: Two tan. Mr. Plummer: Of the 40 percent that you have the right to keep in there on a monthly basis, how many of them are filled? Mr. Alfredo Rodriguez: Long term users at this time, i.e. people... Vice Mayor Kennedy: Al, please state your name for the record. Mr. Alfredo Rodriguez: It fluctuates from eight to 21 because we do have some that stay less than one year. They do pay on a long term basis. We have events that will load up the marina for a weekend. We have had a few this year and we also have - it has to be noted at this time that we're not in this particular enterprise fund talking about Miamarina alone. We're talking about Miamarina and the rest of the uptown, as we call them, facilities. That includes the FEC property that brings in a nice piece of change every year. We are hoping to incorporate the Matson Island docks as soon as the fishersnn move to Miamarina. And that's in... Mr. Plummer: Al. Mr. Rodriguez: Teo, air. is M�t�1ss •, !. `T _ Mr. Plummer: Nothing will please see more then to be wrong. Mr. Odio: Let me put it this way, Commissioner. It is a nice goal to achieve if we can achieve it. ON. Mr. Plummer: But that's a - you see, that's a - that is legitimate to call it a goal is legitimate. Mr. Odio: That's what it is, a projection... Mr. Plummer: To call it a projection is wrong. Mr. Odio: It is a goal and I have to put my support behind it because they have delivered every year, at least since I've been City Manager, they have delivered every year. We haven't had to subsidize that enterprise fund and that's important to us. I remember the time, and you remember because you've been here too long... I didn't say, I mean... Vice Mayor Kennedy: You didn't mean that. Exclude that from the record, please. (LAUGHTER) Mr. Odio: 1 mean, you've bean here a lot of years... Mr. Plummer: Would you like to talk about the Manager's budget next? Vice Mayor Kennedy: Yes, I was afraid that he might come up with that. Mr. Odio: Commissioner, this is my poor English. Mr. Dawkins: This might be how your tenure ends. Mr. Plummer: More than your English is going to be poor after I get finished with you. Mr. Odio: The fact is that you remember the times that we had to pay $300,000 for Marine Stadium and this marina was losing monies and the Miami Stadium - we still have to carry the Miami Stadium as it is today but they're trying and the Orange Bowl with two or three concerts, if we just do more than we're saying we're going to do in the Orange Bowl the profits will be there so... It is not a gamble but it's a good goal to have in the Bayside Marina. I Mr. De Yurre: OK, thank you. Police department. Vice Mayor Kennedy: Police is on page 97. Mr. Plummer: Ninety-seven is all divisions, that's the page it starts on. Vice Mayor Kennedy: You have a different book. Mr. Plummer: Victor, they gave you last year's book. Vice Mayor Kennedy: That's why your numbers are wrong. Mr. De Yurre: No, but it worked. Huh? That goes to show you a lot. Vice Mayor Kennedy: So that's how we make the budgets. Mr. De Yurre: Did anybody question that? Mr. Plummer: It's no longer projections. , Vice Mayor Kennedy: Go ahead. Mr. De Yurre: At the budget workshop, Mano. Mr. Surana: Yes, sir. r£. Mr. De Yurre: We had the enlightened discussion of how many actual police_' officers we had, how many we're projected to have and I's going to pure you j JYf . 16►tlet 41 Ito the numbers, as for as I see them, and you're going to show me where I'm wrong and if you prove me wrong, that's fine. If not, I'm asking for a $2,000,000 reduction in the budget savings to the taxpayers. That's pretty much where we're at. I'm looking at 1,031 police officers p.vsent:y oi, the force. We're looking at the attrition of 70 over the next budget year. We're looking at 100 officers coming onto the force. That's a net of plus 30. Total officers at the and of the year, 1061. We had budgeted according to this book right here which is the budget, 1114 officers, a difference of 53 officers. According to your information, every officer cost the City of Miami, when you take into consideration car and all type of expenses, approximately $60,000. Sixty thousand dollars times 50 officers, that's $3,000,000 that, according to my numbers, are $3,000,000 that won't be expensed because physically we can never have those police officers working for the City of Miami. Nov, prove me where I'm wrong. Mr. Odio: We took the $3,000,000 in savings up front. The budget that the police department presented was a budget of $79,000,000. Mr. De Yurre: No, but, Cesar, is he the budget director? Mr. Odio: Yes, well... Mr. De Yurre: No, you know... Vice Mayor Kennedy: Before you answer that, Mano, let me just ask you, the base salary is $26,000 plus 51 percent for fringes, it comes out to roughly $39,000. And than what also makes it the $60,0007 Mr. Surana: Including the cost of the vehicle, operating expenses, guns, uniforms, electricity, property maintenance, whole caboot into those things. But, in the budget you have, Commissioner, we have budgeted or we have a goal of achieving 1,150 police officers. Mr. De Yurre: What do you tell the public? How many offices are we going to have next year? Again, you know, again we're getting into a credibility thing here. Vice Mayor Kennedy: Wasn't it a thousand sixty-four for next year? Mr. De Yurre: Well, then, 1114, 1100... Mr. Surana: When this budget was prepared at that time we estimated that we took the full funding of 1100 police officers. Then we partially funded 50 police officers for 3 months which was roughly $300,000. That gave us the total projected expenditure of police department. From that total, we reduced to roughly 2.6 million dollars salary savings and we put the difference in the budget. The salary savings comes from attritions and hiring new police officer at the schedule. Nov, that mix can change any time. If they don't have retirements, they won't have the plus. Now when they hire the police officer that might change the dollar amount so we took roughly at 2.6 million dollars salary savings which normally they accrue every fiscal year if we were funding all the positions a hundred percent and next year we have changed that. Normally we will put... Mr. Odio: It's funny because I see him sitting here at one time, assistant chief Bared, taught no, I think it was about three or four years ago when we were really fighting to cut the dollars and he's the first one to tell me, he said they always have a lot of savings in salaries in the police department and that's when we began to take it up front instead of at the end of the year so that taxpayer didn't have to carry that extra load there. Mr. Surana: The budget you have in front of you that include partial funding for fifty police officer... Mr. De Yurre: How many? Mr. Surana: Fifty police officer, partial funding, only for three months which is roughly three hundred, I guess 36 thousand and I would say probably you have full funding a whole year somewhere roughly... OK, what's our budget? Thirty-nine point four, right? 17 sept4abwlr !, 1"s Major Don Wershow: We have ten, approximately 1020 on board now and we're about the start a class with 25 so the full funding figure would be for 1045 starting October let. Mr. Plummer! No way. you got a class starting now, it doesn't even - you won't graduate for 13 weeks. So, starting October 1, which is 15 days away... Mr. Warshaw: But we're going to be paying them. Mr. Surana: But you still have to pay for it. Mr. Plummer: ... is 13 weeks. Mr. Surana: Tou have to pay for it. Mr. Warshaw: We'll be paying them. Mr. Plummer: You pay them while they're going through the academy, that's correct. Mr. Warshaw: Teo. Mr. Plummer: But they're not onboard. Mr. Warshaw: No, but the funding is for 1045 includes those 25, starting from October lat. Mr. Plummer: If you get, but you will not get 25 out of the academy if that's what you put in. Mr. Warshaw: Well, the attrition rates been running low out of the academy. Tour* right, we could get one or two less, it's hard to project. Mr. Plummer: And that's a point I want to bring up after you're finished. Mr. Manager, I'm concerned about that academy because Metro last night, which uses the same academy, is increased their police department by 190 members and I want to make sure that we have room, that they're not going to crowd us out, OK? It's very important because if they're going to run 190 through the mill, it's going to be difficult to get our people in there. Vice Mayor Kennedy: Um hum. Mr. Plummer: Excuse me, I'm sorry. Mr. Surana: If we get the 1045 police officer what we have on the payroll a whole fiscal year, that will require 39.2 million dollars in salaries. We have budgeted 39.4 million which is $200,000. That $200,000 will be used to hire more police officer plus take into consideration the attrition. That ratio depends how many police officer retire, when they retire and when they start the class. Mr. Odio: We have to take into consideration that the new FOP contract has given them the 20 year longevity and that we feel, I feel and Dean Mielke feels and the chief feels that retirements will slow down this coming year waiting to get that extra 5 percent on... Mr. De Turre: OK, let me ask you, if we're looking at these numbers and we're talking about 1061 being a projected figure of how many officers we can have at the end of the year, why - well 1100 according to your numbers but according to the chief's number and everybody *Isola number, we're talking about 1061 unless we change the scenario again. Chief Perry Anderson: No, well I thought we had discussed this at the workshop that we were working towards an 1100 figure by and of S*ptewber of next year. So that's what we're looking at. We've been talking to Ron* and his people and Angela and we believe that we can do it but that's what we're looking at a figure of 1100. Mr. De Turre: Chief, if you've spoken to Rene you must have spoksa to a different Rene than I spoke to. because Rene end I spoke the other day aad he told me that physically there's no way, there's no way that we can get the manpower that you want based on the system that we have. is bapteMor !. 1"S set Mr. Plummer: Who is Rene? Mr. Rene Larrieu: Ilene P. Larrieu, department of personnel management, deputy director. Commissioner, we have developed an implementation time frees whereby... Mr. De Turre: In the last 24 hours I bet you. Since we last spoke. Mr. Larrieu: Not exactly. We've developed a way to make the 1100. We've already issued the general announcement, we're going to process and recruit 2500 applicants so that we can get 1000 police officers... Mr. De Turre: How many additional people are we hiring in the department to take care of that? How many tens of people? Mr. Larrieu: In which department? Mr. De Turre: In your department. Mr. Larrieu: Zero. Mr. De Turre: Well then how do you plan to change a system if you don't change the manpower, how can you all of a sudden multiply your output just like that? Mr. Larrieu: We have the capability to draw during the next year by the instruments that we plan to do in terms of doing immediate recruitment right now in producing the 600 for December of this year for the chief in terms of building up the force so that we can hire more people. Nov, I have spoken to the chief in terms of the backgrounds unit, he's going to be beefing up that area because the processing time is going to be an integral part of success so that we can reach that 1100. Now, come January, we're going to continuous recruitment, intermittent recruitment, so we're going to be recruiting police officers the whole year for next year so we can get the 1000 eligible so that he can get 100 new officers by next year. One concern that I have is the PSAs. Whether that 100 is achievable because ve're going to be recruiting police officers year round and than we're going to be announcing for PSAs at the same time which means that the police officer is more attractive because of the higher pay so I don't know if we're going to be able to beef up that force by 100 PSAs but we've already geared up the system to be able to reach the 1100 by September of next year for police officers. Mr. De Turre: All right, how many police officers were promised by this Commission last year? Mr. Plummer: Eleven hundred. Mr. De Turre: Eleven hundred. The same that are being promised this year. Mr. Plummer: Yes, but the difference is, we lost over 75, 78 in the Investigations plus normal attrition. Mr. De Yurre: Including normal attrition. Mr. Plummer: No, no, we lost - normal attrition, yes, of about six a month. Mr. De Turre: OK. Mr. Plummer: I don't know the exact number but that's the way it averages. Tou lost roughly 70 in that and you lost 78 in the investigations. That was why there's no way you could attain that number this year. Mr. Odio: We lost seven... Chief Anderson: We lost about 70 plus because of the corruption and than plus attrition. Mr. De Yurre: OK, bow many officers were hired through the academy last year? Mr. Warshav: ... so we're talking about 70. 10 isptMAkss •� Ali# xS . Ms. Hirai: Excuse me, could you put the statement into the public record? Mr. Odio: And I want to put this on the record, we only hired 70 on my order. And out of the task force meetings that we held in Key Biscayne and other places, we wade a policy decision and the police department and in the City that we would stop hiring police officers until the method that we had of •crooning officers was changed until we had proper psychological testing in place and with that in mind, we cancelled two classes, was it? Chief Perry Anderson: Yes. Mr. Odio: And I'm glad we did that. I feel that now we have a safer... Chief Anderson: I feel more comfortable with the system. Mr. Plusssor: Wall, the other thing that you have going for you this year, your attrition is not going to be as high because of the 20 year longevity, they're want to wait to take advantage of that boost plus a tax write off. Mr. Odio: See, but I think, Commissioner Plummer and Commissioner Do Yurre, a budget is a projection and when we sat two years ago preparing this year's budget, we'd really wanted to hit 1100 police officers. What I did not expect and neither did Chief Dickson, I guess, we would lose 78 police officers that we never projected into the budget. We only projected the normal attrition. All of a sudden you have this happening and your sequence goes out of whack. Mr. De Yurre: Let me ask you, where are you going to come up with the PSAs that Coemissionor Plummer's requesting? Mr. Odio: Well, I'm going to start... Mr. Do Yurre: Dollarwise. Mr. Odio: Dollarwiso. Mr. Do Yurre: Yes. Mr. Odio: What we're doing is the 1150, the part that we had allocated for that is $336,000 will be used for partial... Mr. Do Yurre: That what, what was that? Mr. Odio: We had allocated $336,000 in this budget, on the police budget, for 50 police officers. That is 3 swaths of police That gave me $336.000 and the difference I'll have to come up with. Mr. De Yurre: For what 50 police officers? Mr. Odio: We had - excuse me, lot me so* - we had 1150 police officers projected. Vice Mayor Kennedy: ... police officer is more than $300,0vo. Mr. Odio: We had 50 police officers budgeted for 3 months and that gives so $336,000. I will take those $336,000 and put that aside to pay for the PSA and on top of that, I still have to find another $600,000. Mr. Do Yurre: I thought the projection was 1100 police officers. Mr. Odio: Allocated, I believe Mano, correct so if I'm wrong, $336.000 for 50 additional police officers at the end of the year. Mr. Surana: Yes, sir. Mr. Do Yurre: At what, and in September? Mr. Odio: Starting in... Mr. Surana: About three •ontha. Mr. Odio: Three months. we're going to do... A three month period we allocated $336.000. So Moat 5 1 t0 MptM�s !� �IrN Mr. be Turret Who are those? Are these another SO that cases out all of a sudden into this picture? Mr. Odio: We had a goal of 1150. Mr. De Turre: But we just talked about it and we're just talking about 1100 DOw. Mr. Odio: No, no, he mentioned before that he had allocated for 50 officers, three months and I maintained that we budgeted for three months, 50 police officers. That is $336,000. We will take that money and allocate it for PSAs. Mr. De Turret See what concerns me is that all of a sudden we can come up with a million dollars. Mr. Odio: A million dollars? Mr. De Turret Tes. Mr. Odio: No. Mr. De Turret Three thirty-six, another six hundred. Mr. Odio: I said I came up with $336,000. But, you see, Commissioner, I think we're missing the point here, it's your decision, it's not mine. I prepared... Mr. De Turret I'm trying to understand this and it's difficult to understand It the way... Mr. Odio: OK, I'm trying to explain it to you. I've been ordered by you, this Commission, to place PSAs on board and now I have to reallocate the funds as they were placed here. You're telling me what to do. It is your decision. If you want to take Z million dollars out of here, that's your decision, not mine. I can only present a budget. If you're not satisfied with it, change It. Mr. De Yurre: No, I just don't like... Mr. Odio: But I want it tell me where you want the monies to core. Mr. De Turret My point is - my whole thing is, I don't want to have to go to the taxpayers and ask them for dollars that we don't need. You know, now if you're telling me you can come up $600,000 from other areas and three thirty- six from the SO police officers, then you're telling me that there's fat throughout the budget. Mr. Plummer: Where's this guy Gene with the funny last name? Where is he, the guy from personnel? You. Vice Mayor Kennedy: Larrieu. Mr. Plummer: Tell the Commissioner - what's the last name? Vice Mayor Kennedy: Rene Larrieu. Mr. Larrieu: Commissioner, Rene P. Larrieu. Mr. Plummer: Larrieu. Mr. Larrieu: Larrieu. Mr. Plummer: Is that like the guy running for President, Leroux? Vice Mayor Kennedy: No, but close. Mr. Larrieu: OK, lot me tell you, throe pronunciations. Larriou in trench, Larriou in Ruglish. Mr. Plummer: Zia► about Gone? 31 E • Mr. Larriou: No, no Gene. Mr. Plummer: What's the first name? Mr. Larriou: Rene. Mr. Plummer: Good, that's close enough. Mr. be Turre: It ends with an e. Mr. Plummer: Tell the Commissioner, you're talking about 2500 you hope to recruit. Mr. Larrieu: Too, air. Mr. Plummer: Give the Commissioner an idea, and give him a realistic figure, what is it going to cost to recruit, process, and come out with that kind of number? And you'd better be honest because I know the number. Mr. Do Turre: Maybe that's why it's such a good idea... Mr. Plummer: That's from the time that you advertise to bring them in to putting them through a background check, through the stress training, through whatever also they have over there to see whether they've got a bad back. Give him an idea what 2500 of those recruits are going to coat you and only come out with about a hundred for the force. Mr. Larrieu: Commissioner, I don't have the numbers in front of me. I would have to got them and get them to you. Off the top of my head I would have to say at least $500 per candidate. Mr. Plummer: How much? Mr. Larriou: Five hundred. Mr. Plummer: You're not even close. You can't put them through Cedars Medical for that. Vice Mayor Kennedy: Rene, he has the numbers. Mr. Plummer: OK, you're going to find, and I beg you to go back and do your homework, that the cost factor is going to be between two thousand and twenty- five hundred. Mr. Larriou: Commissioner... Mr. Plummer: Nov, you know, hey, unfortunately, and I hope this chief changes It, the last chief and many chiefs before him had eight to twelve policemen doing background checks. All they did was go out and ask questions. Nov, I don't know why they needed policemen to do that but when we're paying a policeman the salary that we're paying, you take ten policemen alone, you're talking about a half a million dollars. And all year long all they did was background checks, that's it. So don't give me $500. Mr. Larriou: OK, if you're taking also into consideration the police... Mr. Plummer: I'm taking from the time you put that ad in the paper till you put that man in the academy. Mr. Larriou: It's around a $1000, I have those figures in the department. If you're talking the whole thing... Mr. Plusmmor: My friend, you're not even close. Mr. Larriou: We have the Commissioner. Mr. Plummer: You're not even close. Are you including Met the polio* department spends or just your department? Mr. Larriou: No, everything together, the whole process. 22 Mr. Plummer: You can't do the background checks and everything for a $1000. I wish you could. Mr. Larrieu: Eighteen hundred dollars. Mr. Plummer: You know, as we talk, you're going up and you're getting damn close to what I'm telling you. OK? Now, you put a little bit of sluff in there for whatever else, and you're up to $2500. Vice Mayor Kennedy: It is. Mr. Plummer: I said two thousand to five. I'm sorry, I'm a liar for $200, I should always be that wrong. Vice Mayor Kennedy: It is my understanding that for every million dollars, you get 50 police officers... Mr. Plummer: No, that was 3 years ago. It's leas now. Vice Mayor Kennedy: Oh. Mr. Plummer: Three years ago, for every million dollars, we got 50 policemen and 76 general employees. Nov, after two budget raises, it's more. Mr. Larrieu: OK, but that's $1800, Commissioner Plummer, $1800 for the 100 that we're going to hire. Mr. Plummer: I under stand that, but you're still going to be paying through a lot more over the $25G0 than eighteen - more than the $500 is what I'm saying. Mr. Larrieu: That's correct. Mr. Plummer: It's an expensive process. Mr. Larrieu: Yes, it's very expensive. Mr. De Yurre: As far as your department... Mr. Plummer: They used to do all the psychological testing and all of that, then they would run them through the medical, you know, and half of them mustered out either on the drug test, hypertension or one of those and here we'd already spent $500 to $800 when they should have run the medical the first thing and, you know, disqualified them there. Mr. De Yurre: You're talking about 2500 applications? Mr. Larrieu: Twenty-five hundred people would have to apply so that we can get to where we need to be a year from now. In other words, from the 2500 applicants, 1000 will make the eligible register. Those 1000 would be the ones that would be processed by the Miami Police Department the DPM will certify to them. From those 1000, we will reach from register to the date of hire, we'll hire one hundred. Ten to one from register to hire. Mr. De Yurre: How many applications do you get annually for jobs? Mr. Larrieu: Excuse me, sir. Mr. De Yurre: How many job applications do you get annually? Mr. Larrieu: In terns of police officer? Mr. De Yurre: In terms of everything. Mr. Larrieu: Or totally? Total? Mr. De 'furre: Total, total. Mr. Larrieu: Utween ten to twelve thousand for the departsmat sa a whole. Mr. De Yurre: OK. You're going to be iacreaaing tea percent, 20 porgoat.a$A - tr productivity without tooting you an additional penny. 23ts p. . Lin.. 4 ti Mr. Larrieu: The people are going to have to work harder. Mr. De Turre: Oh, they don't work hard enough as it is? Mr. Larrieu: Teo, they work very hard. Mr. De Turre: They're going to work overtime? Mr. Larrieu: Sometimes, yes, they might have to be working overtime. Mr. be Turra: And we have money to pay them overtime? Mr. Plussser: Tou don't have to pay money, you can 80 it. Mr. Larrieu: The MC people, job basis people, do not earn overtime, just the lover clerical people would be paying overtime. Mr. De Turre: Thank you. Mr. Plummer: Thank you, Rene. Mr. Larrieu: Commissioner Plummer, I have the figures that you wanted if your would like to look at them for a cost breakdown. Mr. Plummer: Please, just leave them here. Vice Mayor Kennedy: Let me ask you, while we're on the subject. Where's the money for the operating cost of the north police substation? Mr. Plummer: They have 600 in this budget? Six hundred, I think. About $600,000 and that's only for eight months' funding because it'll open in January and that will. carry you from then, there are ten swaths funding. Vice Mayor Kennedy: Are you finished? Mr. De Turre: Did you understand what Mano explained? Vice Mayor Kennedy: Six hundred. Mr. De Turre: No, no, the breakdown. Mr. Plummer: Did I understand it? Mr. De Turre: No, I'm asking Rosario. Mr. Plummer: I wrote his speech. Mr. De Turre: Wall, I'm sure you had something to do with it, no question about that. Vice Mayor Kennedy: Because I... Mr. Plummer: I write his speech every year. Mr. De Turre: Well, I wasn't convinced but so I got no further questions. Vice Mayor Kennedy: Mano, this is nothing personal... Mr. Plummer: Mr. Manager, I'd like to ask this question. Since we have not seen or had a presentation on DDA, is that to be included in this budget hearing? We've not had any presentation from DDA, have we? INAUDIBLE COMHZMTS NOT ENTERED INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD. Mr. Plummer: Escuse me? Mr. Odio: This is first reading so you have time between am and tAe swslt seating, if you so choose. Vice Mayor Kennedy: The nest final budget sleeting mill be as September the 27th if that is agreeable to everybody at SeOS. ram` 24 69 wales Or,, 8 't 0 10 Mr. Piunrear: That's what we've changed to the Commission Meeting to. Vice Mayor Kennedy: Right, same date as... that is the same data. Mr. De Turre: Don't we have a zoning meeting this month? Mr. Plussser: Teo. Vice Mayor Kennedy: That is the same date. Mr. Odio: Plus this. Mr. De Turre: Are we starting early, or what? Vice Mayor Kennedy: Since we're going to neat then anyways, we'll just at 5:05 start with this. Mr. De Turre: But at what time are ve starting that meeting then? Mr. Plummer: One o'clock. Mr. Odio: One o'clock. Vice Mayor Kennedy: One. Mr. De Turre: At one? So four hours of zoning and that's it? Vice Mayor Kennedy: No, it doesn't mean that it will be over but we break and finish this part. Mr. De Turre: Take a break for the public hearing and, OK. Mr. Plummer: Ask Joan, don't ask me. Mr. Jorge Fernandez: Ready for the ordinance, Madam Vice Mayor? Mr. Plummer: Well, I think it would be appropriate after all these questions, to ask is any further amendments before you go read it. No further amendments? Vice Mayor Kennedy: No. Mr. De Turre: The only amendment - I'm not going to vote for it as it is, you know. I still think that, you know, we can reduce.... Mr. Plummer: Yell, the proper way, Victor, is to try to make an amendment. If the amendment fails, than you read it as is. Vice Mayor Kennedy: Because the budget has... Mr. Plummer: I mean, that's up to you, whatever way you want to do it. Vice Mayor Kennedy: Right, but the budget has to be approved by law. It doesn't mean that you have to vote for it, but... Mr. De Turre: Somebody's - three have to vote for it. Vice Mayor Kennedyt Us, three of us have to... Mr. De Turre: OK, wall just for the record, you know, I'll make a notion that we reduce the police department's budget based on the fact that it is my contention that we will not hire the police officers for which all the sale has been set aside for in the amount of 2 million dollars. I 0 think for the Z million dollars, there are going to be 2 mullion dollars that we're going to be taxing the taxpayers for that will not be used during the fiscal year and I'd rather see than keep that money than us take it in under the guise that we're going to have more police officers out there when it's not physically Pv possible to do. Vice Mayor Kennedy: OK, having said that as a motion, have a second? fx. Mr. Plussaer: Mr. City Attorney, I can second the motion and vote against the notion, correct? Mr. Fernandez: You certainly can. Mr. Plummer: Chief, what happens if you get cut 2 million dollars? Mr. Fernandez: Have you done that? Mr. Plummer: Oh, I'll second the motion because I want his to have the opportunity to explain to me what will happen if we cut him by two million dollars. Vice Mayor Kennedy: For discussion purposes. Chief Anderson: Yell, if we get cut by 2 million dollars, it will be almost impossible for us to provide the critical service to the community. It would be disastrous with a 2 million dollar reduction in our current budget. Mr. Plummer: All right, look, come to the point of the Commissioner's question, OK? Vice Mayor Kennedy: What will suffer? Mr. Plussaer: The point that he is trying to get across and the area of confusion. Do you have any confusion about the 2 million dollars as it relates to the new hiring and the attrition? Chief Anderson: No, no, no. None, none whatsoever. Mr. Plummer: You have no confusion in that area. And you fully understand it? Chief Anderson: Teo. Mr. Plummer: OK. Mr. De Turre: Let ma ask you something. Chief, how about if it vas a million dollar cut in the budget? Chief Anderson: I'm not going to stand before this mike and tell you that we need to suffer any kind of a cut because critical emergency service will suffer and we're at the point where we're talking about increasing manpower and I'm not going to be put in the position of saying that we should decrease and that we should suffer any kind of monetary cut. Mr. De Yurre: OK, because my point is that if you're telling me that any - if we reduce it a dollar, we're suffering, than how can we allocate six hundred and some odd thousand from somewhere that we have to find now and the 4336,000 that we're cutting back on 50 police officers for the last 3 months of the fiscal year. Nov, if we follow that line of thought, then we have the same problem with the million dollars that we're talking about. Chief Anderson: Well, Commissioner Kennedy, the Vice Mayor mentioned something and she - what would suffer, we're already concerned about delay time and response time and increased calls for service. And if manpower should continue to decrease and not increase, then I'm looking at any decrease In the police budget that we would have some problems in providing critical service to this community and for the public safety. Mr. Dawkins: You know, I hear Commissioner De Turre... Mr. Plummer: Increase in budget. Mr. Dawkins: ... and I've heard him from day one and I keep "king On question he keeps asking and I keep not getting an answer, OK? Is tbere 3 million dollars worth of fat in the police budget? Mr. Odio: No. Chief Anderson: No. r , Mr. Dawkins: OK, all right. Now, if it's not, then nobody has explained it to the Commissioner that it's not. All you continue, in my opinion to say, is there is fat of $300,000, 0K7 Now, as we have said and I hear Commissioner De Turre loud and clear, but I'm going to have to vote, as much as I agree with him, I'm going to have to vote against his motion. And the reason I'm voting against his motion is, we take the taxes and give them to you. You are supposed to take the dollars and divide them up to provide the services to the City of Miami. Nov. if you think, in your professional expertise, that it takes 76 million dollars... Mr. Plummer: Seventy-five. Mr. Dawkins: ... to provide critical police service to the City of Miami, I'm going to have to go along with your professional advice. But if, at the end of the year, you got a 2 million dollar surplus, then Commissioner De Turre is correct. But I cannot sit here and take the gamble where you may not have it and we fall short on providing that critical police service that we need. And nobody yet has said that a budget is a projection. In accounting 101, you learn that there's a contingency fund, contingency funds are for emergencies and if you do not have the guts to put contingency fund, you go and put money Into object codes and hide it into object codes where, when you need it, you switch it from object code to object code. Now, if that is what happened, you need to tell the Commissioner that's what happened. If that did not happen, you say it did not happen and we know where we are. But all I keep hearing, and I agree with him, I mean, in my opinion, his question has not been answered. Mr. Plummer: Two areas. Number one, Mr. Manager, I have always had the comfortable feeling that any line item change in any budget, police or otherwise, has to come before this Commission. Mr. Odio: Oh, that hasn't been the case, ever. Mr. Plummer: And at any time that those line items were to change, we, the Commission, will make the decision. It will not be the administration. Mr. Odio: That has not been the policy of the City Commission ever. Mr. Plummer: We are giving you, Chief, six percent increase over last year's budget. And in a way, we're doing you a disservice because that's how we're going to measure you as Chief. The only way to measure ability is in results and all of us are going to be here next year to measure those results. So I don't want a dispute, I want to give you within reason, and I think six percent is within reason, every tool that is necessary for you to perform that job as you see and as you have projected. But I want to tell you, we're going to be here and we're going to measure your ability at next year'o budget time. Chief Anderson: I'll be asking for a raise next year. Mr. Odio: Commissioner, let me say this, as of October... Mr. Plummer: They're always saving a space for you in Coconut Grove, Chief, don't worry about it. Mr. Odio: As of October let, and all of the department directors of it, there is not line item transfer allowed. This budget is an actual budget, it's not an incremental budget as it was in the past and, therefore, line item transfers are not allowed except in a justifiable emergency because something that we cannot predict. Mr. Plummer: Well, Mr. Manager, we're going to have - let so tell you something. We're going to have some changes this year. Mr. Dawkins: Madam City Attorney, are we speaking to the nation? Mr. Plummer: City Attorney? Mr. Fernandez: Mr. City Attorney. Mr. Plug: City Attorney? Mr. Fernandez: Commissioner. 27 ""S"Os •o ili/ Vice Mayor Kennedy: One second now. Mr. Plummer: Boy, I'm leaving when we start questioning gender around here. It's even difficult for his to blush, but... Vice Mayor Kennedy: Yes, Mr. Dawkins? Mr. Dawkins: Are we still speaking to the motion? Mr. Plummer: No, sir, I'm not, I'm sorry. Vice Mayor Kennedy: Teo, we had no... Mr. Dawkins: No, no, see that's the parliamentarian, now, come on. Mr. Plulmeor: I apologise. Mr. Fernandes: OK. Mr. Dawkins: OK, thank you, now Vice Mayor Kennedy: We have a motion on the floor, duly seconded. Is there any further discussion? Mr. Plummer: Drop dead. Mr. De Turre: I have discussion. You know, why, I don't have a problem with a 2 million dollar reduction because we have a surplus fund of 10 million dollars that four months ago we didn't have a penny there. And, now, all of a sudden, in four months we've generated 10 million dollars. And if we're talking about a surplus fund of 10 million dollars, and push comes to shove and what you're projecting comes true and we have all these police officers, then we have that money there set aside and next year, knowing that you do have the police officers, we can go back and get the money you need to fully fund you. That's why I don't have a problem with reducing it now because I do have a problem with laying off a whole bunch of people during the year because we didn't have a penny in the budget, any surplus money, and all of a sudden at the and of the year, we ended up with 10 million dollars. How it happened, I don't know but we got a few magicians here certainly. Mr. Odio: It was good management. Mr. Do Yurre: It was great management but how good was it when we didn't have j any and we had to lay off a whole bunch of people? You know? So it isn't that by reducing the 2 million dollars you won't have the money you need, the money is there. But it hasn't been proven to me that we're going to be using it and that's my whole point. Chief Anderson: I understand, I've always known you to support the police in every way and I feel that you will continue to do that so I don't have any problems with that but I'm just telling you that if the adverse should occur, then we would have a situation that will be detrimental to the police department in this community. Mr. De Yurre: And in no point in time would that happen because we do have this surplus money available, no... Vice Mayor Kennedy: All right. Mr. Do Yurre: So, your mind is at ease as far as that's concerned. At least the way I so* it. Vice Mayor Kennedy: OK, please call the roll. ON MOTION DULY MADE BY COMMISSIONIR DE YVRRE COMNISSIONIR PLUMMIR, THI ABOVI MOTION TAILID VOTE is AND UCOW= IY IT THI FOLLM MQ q sz 'a AYES: Commissioner Victor De Turre NOES: Comaissioner Miller J. Dawkins Vice Mayor Rosario Kennedy Commissioner J.L. Plummer, Jr. ASSINT: Mayor Xavier L. Suarez Mr. Plummer: Now we go to the main. Vice Mayor Kennedy: All right. Mr. De Turret Where are we at now? Vice Mayor Kennedy: We move now to... Mr. De Turret Well can we make another motion... Vice Mayor Kennedy: You. Mr. De Turret ... addressed to what you were talking about. I would like to make it official from this Commission that there can be no line item changes. Vice Mayor Kennedy: Can we do that? Mr. Plummer: Well, you can't make them without Commission approval. Mr. De Turret Wall, that's what I'm saying. Mr. Plummer: Oh, yes, well, I think that at this point... Mr. Davkine: I don't think it's necessary but I'll second it. Vice Mayor Kennedy: Well, let's just check with the City Attorney. Mr. Fernandez: Hold on a second, let me consult the charter a second. Vice Mayor Kennedy: Yes. Mr. Plummser: We changed line item budgets all the time. We rob Peter to pay Paul. Ivory agenda's got one transfer borrowing from here to go to there. Huh? Mr. De Turret Mano, if you've got something to may, say it on the record, you know. Mr. Plummer: Let me tell you what he's saying on the record. Our agendas are going to go from a hundred items to 200 items. Mr. De Turret Just put it on the consent agenda and if we have any question about something, we just bring it up. Vice Mayor Kennedy: Are we clear on that? Mr. De Turret Unlems we can do what we did. J.L., with the off street parking authority... Mr. Plummer: I think we can change... Mr. De Turret ... giving them a cap or a limit without having to come for Commission approval. Mr. Plun mar: I have no problem with it, none. Well, I'll tell you what, so you don't have to sit here all day, why don't you put a cap on a line item. If it's not legal, they'll coma back and tell us at the next msoting. Mr. De Turret We'll do the same thing with the off street parking, we'll give them a five thousand or five percent. Mr. Plummer: Hey, I - look, when you're dealing with a hundred and eighty- nine million, $5,000 is nothing. I would say a line item change above �SO,d4p would be appropriate. :3 Mr. De Turre: Io total. In total because now if they to 45 and 45 the next day and... Mr. Plummer: And let's see how that works. I mean, if we're generating another 50 items for the agenda, then I got a problem with it. but, let's try 50 thousand cap. If the charter says we can't do that, then at the next meeting we'll understand that. but do you want to impose it now, I have no problem with it. Mr. De Turre: OK, the motion would be that there can be no line item change of more than 50 that would result in an increase or a decrease of $50,000 in any line item. Mr. Plummaart You mean a transfer. Mr. De Turret Tea. Mr. Plummier: because you've got to stay within the parameters. There can be no line item change transferring funds in excess of 50 thousand without Commission approval. Vice Mayor Kennedy: We have a legal opinion now that the City Commission can order the Manager to do the transfer. Mr. Plummert Sure we can. Mr. De Turre: We can, OK. OK now, but understand my concern. I don't want you to transfer 50 thousand today which - or 49 thousand today and then use up and bring it down to zero and than bring in another 49 so you keep replenishing a line. Do you follow met You know, hey... Mr. Plummer: You should have bean around here ten years ago. Vice Mayor Kennedy: I think that this is what... Mr. Plusmert When the police department tried to buy a night scope spy camera without the Commission knowing about it. They wrote about ten requisitions for 13 parts. Vice Mayor Kennedy: I think that this is what Disraeli meant when he said, legislation, like sausage, should not be seen in the making. Mr. Plummer: Hey, Victor, I'll try anything you want... Mr. De Turre: OK, well, let's... Mr. Plummer: ... do you want $50,000. Mr. De Turret I want that no line item can be increased in total during the budget year by more than $50,000 put into it, not that... Mr. Plummer: Transfer. Mr. De Turre: Transferred in - no more than $50,000 transferred into it... Mr. Plummer: Without Commission approval. Mr. De Turre: ... or from it without Commission approval. Mr. Plummer: line and I'm willing to try that because if in three months, we find out it's too burdensome and it doesn't prove anything, we either remove It, we increase it or we change it with three votes. Mr. De Turret OK, well that's my motion. Mr. Odio: One department to another. Mr. De Turre: From one line to another. Vice Mayor Kennedy: Do we need a motion for that... so Mr. Dawkins: Teo. Vice Mayor Kennedy: OK. Mr. Dawkins: Second. I second it. Vice Mayor Kennedy: All right. Mr. Odio: fifty thousand is the cap? Mr. Plummer: Tom. Mr. Odio: OK. Mr. Plummor: Within a department is what you're talking about, aren't you? Mr. De Turre: Teo. Mr. Plummer: Within a department. Mr. Dawkins: Teo, in a department. Mr. Odio: We need 300 items... Mr. Plummer: Hey, I'm saying if it becomes too burdensome, all right... 5 Mr. Odio: I have no Vice Mayor Kennedy: Then we'll take it out. Mr. Dawkins: Well, we usually do not have zoning meetings until 1:00 o'clock, so I can have all of these on a Thursday morning. I don't have no problems with that. Mr. Odio: Believe me, I have no problem whatsoever in you doing that. Mr. Dawkins: And so Thursday morning, from 6:00 o'clock till 1:00 o'clock, we hear budget requests. Mr. Odio: We'll just take the whole day on that and.... Vice Mayor Kennedy: All right. Mr. Dawkins: By the way, we had a public hearing but if there's anyone out there desiring to speak, come up and give the clerk your name and I'a sure the Vice Mayor will call you up. Mr. Plummer: Well, wait a minute, he has a motion on the floor. Vice Mayor Kennedy: As to the motion - yes, and he did second, so if there's no further discussion, please call the roll. The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Do Turre , who moved its adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 88-830 A RESOLUTION EXPRESSING THE POSITION OF THE CITY COMMISSION THAT THERE IS NO AUTHORITY FOR THE CITY MAXAOER DURING FISCAL YEAR 1988-89 TO TRANSFER A TOTAL OF X= u THAN $50,000 BETWEEN LINE -ITEM BUDGET ACCOONTS OF AIR CITY DEPARTMENT OR OFFICE UNLESS THE CITY COMISSIOE SHALL NAR GIVEN ITS ADVANCE APPROVAL OF SUCH TRANSFER. (Here follow body of resolution, owitted here and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Commissioner Dawkins the resolution we and adopted by the following vote: r: } 1 f }) yS III fY ATES: Cosmissioner Victor De Turre Cosnissioner Miller J. Dawkins Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. ♦ice Mayor Rosario Kennedy NOES: None. ABSENT: Mayor Xavier L. Suarez 2. FIRST READING ORDINANCE: DEFINE AND DESIGNATE TERRITORIAL LIMITS OF THE CITY OF MIAMI FOR PURPOSES OF TAXATION - FIXING MILLAGE AND LEVYING TAXES TOR FISCAL YEAR BEGINNING OCTOBER 1, 1988. Vice Mayor Kennedy: Now we move into the first reading of the ordinance. Mr. City Attorney. Mr. Pluammer: Now, let me make sure. The DDA budget is separate from the one you're reading. Mr. Jorge L. Fernandez: It is, it is. Mr. Plummer: All right because that one I want to vote against. Mr. Fernandez: Yes. All right, we first read the ordinance fixing the millage and levying taxes. This is the first reading of the ordinance Mr. Plummer: I move it. Mr. Dawkins: Second. Vice Mayor Kennedy: Please call the roll. AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED - AN ORDINANCE DEFINING AND DESIGNATING THE TERRITORIAL LIMITS OF THE CITY OF MIAMI FOR THE PURPOSE OF TAXA?IONS FIXING THE MILLAGE AND LEVYING TAXES IN THE CITT OF MIAMI, FLORIDA, FOR THE FISCAL TEAR BEGINNING OCTOBER 1, 1988, AND ENDING SEPTEMBER 90, 1989f CONTAINING SE'VERABILITY CLAUSE. Was introduced by Commissioner Plummer and seconded by Comissioner Dawkins and passed on its first reading by title by the following vote: AYES: Commissioner Miller Dawkins Vice Mayor Rosario Kennedy Commissioner J.L. Plummer, Jr. NOES: Commissioner Victor De Yurre ABSENT: Mayor Xavier L. Suarez The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and announced that copies were available to the mwbers of the City Comsa►issioa and to the public. -------------------------------------------- - ----------------------------- : 3. FIRST READING ORDINANCE: MAKE APPROPRIATIONS FOR THN CITY OF MIAMI FOR FISCAL TEAR ENDING SEPTSMSER 30, 1989. Mr. Plummer: What's next? vice Mayor Kennedy: OK, the first reading of the ordinance making appropriations for the fiscal year ending September 30th, 1989. Mr. Jorge Fernandez: Is it moved and seconded? Mr. Plummar: Wait, what is that? Ms. Hirai: No, not as yet. Vice Mayor Kennedy: That's number three on the agenda. We just went through number two. Mr. De Turre: What are we voting on now? Mr. Plummer: Teo, move it. Mr. Dawkins: Number three? What, public announcement? Vice Mayor Kennedy: No, appropriations. Mr. Plummer: No, this is number three. Vice Mayor Kennedy: For the fiscal year ending September the 30th, 169. It has been moved by Commissioner Plummer. Mr. Plummer: I move it. Mr. Dawkins: Second. Mr. Plummer: It's a companion. Mr. Fernandes: In reading this ordinance for the first ties, the motion that was made by Commissioner Do Turre that was passed in relation to the transfer between line items will be incorporated in the body of this ordinance even though it's not reflected in the title. Mr. Plummer: No, I don't agree with that. I don't think it's part of budget. It does not reflect in the budget at all. Matter of fact, it was a motion which you'll have to come back at a future Commission Meeting to be ratified. Vice Mayor Kennedy: Right, make it separate then if... Mr. Fernandez: There is in the body of the ordinance that I'm about to read now in section 11, there is reference made to transfer of funds between detailed accounts and it would seem to be the logical place, from our perspective, to insert as a policy statement that this Commission has passed on. Mr. Plummer: OK, then I have to go back and ask this question. Would that if in fact we find that the $50, 000 figure, for whatever reason, it's too high, too low or too burdensome, can we amend it... Mr. Fernandes: Tes. Mr. Plummer: ... without going back and completely redoing budget? Mr. Fernandes: Tao. There to a process for a mandatory ordinance to t14o ordinance but throughout the year... Mr. Plummer: But this is part of an ordinance... Mr. Fernandes: Too. p Ld" Mr. Plummer: ... that which he proffered was a resolution or a motion which can be changed by the sane. This is an ordinance Now an ordinance you're going to have to publish, you're going to have to publish and sift ordinance doesn't become law until 30 days after second reading. I'm concerned of Inserting that in an ordinance. Mr. Fernandez: All right, so then we'll consider that which was passed as a notion of this Commission express... Mr. Plummer: Which is the same what it would take to change it in the future. Mr. Fernandez: Right, OK. Mr. Plummer: You put it into an ordinance, it's a very, very complex thing to change. Mr. Fernandes: So then the record is clear that... Mr. Plummer: Big difference. Mr. Fernandez: ... the title that will be read now is unchanged and the body of the ordinance is also unchanged as it appears in the record. No. Hirai: No, I just would like to clarify for the Commissioner, if the amendment does not change the title of the ordinance, then, in fact, we have complied with the law and it does not have to be readvertised. Mr. Plummer: That's correct. Ms. Hirai: Because it's only advertised by title so an ordinance can amend another ordinance without having to be readvertised. It would only need to be readvertised if the amendment affected the title of the ordinance. Mr. Fernandez: But... Ms. Hirai: But if it is in the body of it, it does not need to. Mr. Plummer: I see what you mean. I would still prefer it, this vote. The Intent of this vote is that it be a motion. Mr. Fernandez: All right. It is understood. Mr. Plummer: Which would be the same to change it. Mr. Fernandez: So then there is no relation between the reading ordinance and that which was previously passed upon. Mr. Plummer: Correct. Mr. Fernandez: And the reading of the ordinance. An ordinance making appropriations for the fiscal year ending September 30th, 1989 containing a repealer provision and a severability clause. Take a vote. Vice Mayor Kennedy: Is that... AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED - AN ORDINANCE MAKING APPROPRIATIONS FOR THE FISCAL YEAR ENDING SEPTEMBER 30, 1989; CONTAINING A REPEALER PROVISIONS AND A SEVE RABILITY CLAUSE. Was introduced by Commissioner Plummer and seconded by Commissioner Dawkins and was passed on its first reading by title by the following vote: . AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Vice Mayor Rosario Kennedy NOES: Commissioner Victor De Turre ABSENT: Mayor Xavier L. Suarez 34 69R The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commission and to the public. COMMENTS MADE DURING ROLL CALL: Mr. Plummer! Better set him here. Well, there's a quorum. Vice Mayor Kennedy: We have three people here. No. Hirai: It's a first reading. Three will pass. Mr. Plummer: But I'm sure Commissioner Dawkins doesn't want to show absent. Vice Mayor Kennedy: All right, Commiseioner Dawkins. Oh, there he is. Mr. Plummer: This is on the appropriation ordinance, companion to the first one you voted on. Your vote. 4. A. DISCUSSION OF PROPOSED MILLAGE RATE AND TENTATIVE BUDGET FOR THE DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY. B. PUBLIC HEARING PORTION HELD. C. BRIEF COMMENTS AND TEMPORARY DEFERRAL - CUSTODIAL SERVICES AT POLICE DEPARTMENT (SEE LABEL 7). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Vice Mayor Kennedy: All right, we now have the discussion of the millage rate for DDA. Peter Andolina. Mr. Peter Andolina: Peter Andolina, the acting executive director of the downtown development authority. Mr. Dawkins: Is this the DDA budget? Vice Mayor Kennedy: Right. Mr. Plummer: Yes. Ms. Hirai: Yes, air. Mr. Dawkins: Is it in this package? Ms. Hirai: Yes, sir. Vice Mayor Kennedy: Yes. Mr. Plummer: Sure, it's in this package. Mr. Andolina: The percentage increase of the millage over the rollback rate is 2.94/100ths of one percent. Vice Mayor Kennedy: Is this the same as last year? Mr. Dawkins: What page is it on in here? Vice Mayor Kennedy: It is on this - here... Mr. Andolina: I hand delivered copies of the budget to each Cowmissioner's office on the 29th of August. I do have additional copies. Mr. Dawkins: That's what I'm saying. May I see a copy of it, please? Vice Mayor Kennedy: Please keep soma aulet on the chambers back there. The" '< you. Peter, is this the same as last year's? Mr. Andolina: The millage rate is the sans as last year, yes. Vice Mayor Keanad : y The millage age rats... , 35 Mom! •# '.'' S r:i: 9 Mr. Andolins: Point five, which is the highest millage rate that could be charged for the DDA. The purpose for the additional millage over the roll back rate is for capital improvements and street besutification, totalling $39,079. I'd be happy to respond to any questions that any of the Commissioners have. Mr. Dawkins: Teo. On... Vice Mayor Kennedy: Could we please have some quiet on the chambers back there. Mr. Dawkins: On the organizational chart on page two. Mr. Andolins: I'm sorry, sir, I didn't hear you. Mr. Dawkins: Oh, no, I'■ sorry, on page three, on page three. You got other - where is the total number of employees? Mr. Andolins: Me have a total of 13 employee positions. However, because of Mr. Kenzie's resignation, there are only 12 employees currently. Mr. Dawkins: So you got twelve. OK. Mr. Andolins: That's correct. And 67 percent of those 12 are either minority or women. Mr. Dawkins: And they're all in clerical... Mr. Andolina: No, sir. Mr. Dawkins: ... or other lower positions. Mr. Andolina: That's not correct, sir. Mr. Dawkins: All right, go ahead, tell me about it. Mr. Andolina: OK, one of the three top administrators currently serving is... Mr. Dawkins: It's the other administrator. What does that mean? Mr. Andolina: Our director of urban design, Clyde Judson... Mr. Dawkins: Does what? Mr. Andolina: Director of urban design, Clyde Judson. Mr. Dawkins: Director of urban design. Mr. Andolina: Too, sir. Mr. Dawkins: but that wasn't important enough to put that down as a director of urban design. You put it down as "other administrator." Mr. Andolina: I'm following a format that's been provided by the City, air. Mr. Dawkins: by the what? Mr. Andolina: The City. This is a form... Mr. Dawkins: Do we have to pass this budget? Mr. Fernandez: Yes, we do, first reading. This is the first reading of this ordinance. Mr. Plumssr: Excuse me, did you say you had 12 employees? ti Mr. Andolina: That's correct. .F Mr. Pluwr: Then your budget reflects that each employee represents a $1,000 a year for just parking fees? How such does the shuttle bus cost? I's ssylft $12,000, a $1,000 per employee for parking. ' 4, T . Qt !6 riffs f, tali Mr. Andolina: Our monthly parking fee at the building is $75.00. Mr. Pluarner: Have you told your employees about rapid transit? Mr. Andolins: We d.... Mr. Plummer: What have you done about transferring of rent, about moving out that building? Mr. Andolins: Ve have a ten year lease that's cancellable after five years. The fifth year ends next June 30th. We have to give notice by January 30th. Mr. Plummer: Because your rent, what I'm looking at here is damn near a quarter of a million dollars a year. Mr. Andolina: That's correct, air. Mr. Plummer: That could be applied toward what our guarantee is for the Gunman Center. Mr. Andolina: That would not occur until the following fiscal year. Mr. Plummer: Vail, it's not going to be finished until then. Mr. Andolina: Yes, so that' why we haven't budgeted any rent changes. Mr. Plummer: Give me some kind of an idea what you do for promotional activities for $36,000. Mr. Andolina: We put out approximately 8 or 9 newsletters each year. Mr. Plummer: No, that's printing. Mr. Andolina: Well... Mr. Plummer: Printing is another $40,000. Mr. Andolina: We did the calendar last year. I think there was 7,000... Mr. Plummer: That's printing, I'm talking about promotional. Mr. Andolina: OK, that came under promotion, the calendar. It was a lot more than just printing involved. We had to purchase the pho.... Mr. Plummer: You got them printed for nothing. Mr. Andolina: No, the printing - there are parts of the charges for the promotion are for - let me start again, please. The calendar that was printed had more than just printing costs involved. We purchased an original photograph which cost u■ approximately $2,000. There are also parts of the calendar that came under postage because we had to put them in those rollers and we sailed them out to over 5,000 people in the vicinity. Other promotional activities; we worked with the Brickell Area Association in sponsoring the Riverfest as well as the grand opening of the fire station four. We put banner together for Bayfront Park and for other activities. I don't have a complete breakdown on promotion but I'll be happy to provide that to you. Mr. Plumser: No, at least I see a decrease in it. Mr. Dawkins: Why won't you used any professional architectural services? Mr. Andolina: We don't anticipate the need for that next year, sir. Mr. Dawkins: Veil, why? You oust have a reason why you don't. Mr. Andolina: Well, let so explain something... Mr. Dawkins: I know you don't anticipate it, sir, that's why you don't havo It on there. But why don't you anticipate it? z. 37 N*taslY!>< #, 1#6 Mr. Andolins: Let me explain something. What we have done under our capital improvements line item which is code number $30 is we have split up the revenues in that line item based on the three geographic @rose of downtown, the percentage of taxes generated by each area and we are going to be allocating a lump suss to each of those geographic areas working with the Omni Venetia Association, the Brickell Area Association, and the Downtown Miami Business Association. If they, during the course of the year, asked us to do a study out of the funds allocated to them, than we may need to go to an architectural service and then we would have to amend the budget to move money from the capital improvements line item into architecture. Those decisions by the three civic groups that we're working with have not yet been made. We intend on meeting with them throughout the month of October and November and we'll have a complete breakdown of the projects they want us to pursue and then we would have to amend the line items accordingly. Mr. Dawkins: OK, then you really and truly did not decrease the budget by $50,000 because there is $50,000 if needed in the $256,000. Would that be a correct statement? Mr. Andolina: Teo, sir. If we ended up using architectural services then we would not be showing a reduction. But I have no way of projecting that now since these various groups have not come forth with all of their recommendations to us on projects for next year. Mr. Dawkins: I'll ask the question again. You have shown that you decreased your budget by $50,000 because you dropped line item 230, professional service architect. But then you explained to me that if and when you need architectural services, you will go to line item 830, capital improvement activities and buy what architectural services you need. Is that a correct statement? Mr. Andolina: You, air. Mr. Dawkins: So you took the $50,000 and put it over here. I mean - OK, that's all right. Nov, the other one is professional services, other. You reduced that by a quarter of a million dollars. What makes you think that you're only going to need $10,000 worth of professional services other, whatever that is? Mr. Andolina: In that line item last year was included the downtown street coordinator which was funded by off street parking and DDA. That person is now an employee so that dollar amount is now under personnel. We also paid $160,000 to the City for professional services last year that is not in the year's budget. That's why you see the difference of this year over last year. Mr. Dawkins: .... the professional services that you got from the City of Miami yesterday, last year for $160,000, where will it come from this year? Mr. Andolina: The professional services? Mr. Dawkins: Um hum. You purchase it from some other source? Mr. Andolina: No, sir, we were requested last year to pay $160,000 to cover positions in the planning department. Mr. Dawkins: Oh. Mr. Andolina: Our board has passed a resolution this year asking that that money not be allocated to the planning department. Mr. Dawkins: What is the salary of the director of DDA? Mr. Andolina: 'When Mr. Kenzie was still director, his salary was $95,754. Mr. Dawkins: Plus perks came to what? Mr. Andolina: Our fringe benefit package is 27 percent plus vacation and sick leave, approximately 37 percent. Mr. Dawkins: Mano Surana. Mano Surana. OK, what would the total package bet Mr. Andolina: Approximately $120,000. 34 Septembqr 0, 1S" ✓ ��yt-j �S' Mr. Dawkins: A hundred what, Mr..... INAUDIBLE COMMENTS NOT ENTERED L14TO THE PUBLIC RICORD. Mr. Dawkins: A hundred and twenty thousand. Let the record reflect that the Mayor says that nobody is worth $120,000. I'd like to know his reaction to thin salary. Mr. Andolins: Well, sir, this salary's not a reality anymore. Mr. Kenzie's no longer here, we don't have an executive director as yet. Mr. Dawkins: They are going to fill the position. Vice Mayor Kennedy: When, we fill the position, we can take into consideration Mr. Dawkins: Oh, you're not going to hire a director? Mr. Andolina: Our board is going to fill the position... Mr. Dawkins: OK, so that is a... Mr. Andolins: ... they have set a range of between... Mr. Dawkins: So that is a reality. If the other gentleman whom we hire has the same qualifications and require the same salary. Mr. Andolina: That's a possibility, sir. Mr. Dawkins: I mean, it's not a fact, but it's a possibility. Mr. Andolina: Yes, sir. Mr. Dawkins: OK, no further questions. Vice Mayor Kennedy: I have a question, I remember the last budget hearing that Mr. Dawkins talked about minority sat asides being the same as those in the City of Miami. Are you complying with that? Mr. Andolina: Yes, Vice Mayor, we are. In fact, on Flagler Street where we just spent a $170,000 all but approximately $2,000 of that was to minority vendors. Mr. Plummer: And if you'll allow we to do it, that's what I'd like to do. Mr. Odio: Do you want to ask Miller? Mr. Plummer: I'd like to change my vote on the janitorial thing at the police station. Mr. Dawkins: No, uh uh. Vice Mayor Kennedy: All right, wait a second. Why don't we finish with DDA first. Let's - OK. Mr. Dawkins: No, don't bring it up. Vice Mayor Kennedy: Is there any further discussion from the Commission? Mr. Dawkins: You see, the reason I don't want to bring it up, J.L., is that we did the lady a favor, OK? All right. You see, now let me explain it to you. We did the lady a favor because the bid $125,000 and we did not have no computers over there for her to clean up. So she really was going to Set so, no sir, you did her - I mean we did, OK? Mr. Plummer: It was not that my intent to do her a favor. Mr. Dawkins: Well, that's OK. Well, I did. It was my intent. Mr. Plummer: All right, where are we? Is everybody finished with =A? s 0 0 Vice Mayor Kennedy: No, I Sot my question answered. If there's no further discussion, I,11 entertain a motion to... Mr. Fernandes: Mall, is there any ember of the public. Vice Mayor Kennedy: Oh, yes, is there any member of the public who wishes to be heard on this item? OR, let the record reflect that there's nobody hers. Then I'll entertain - Yes. S. FIRST READING ORDINANCE: DEFINE AND DESIGNATE TERRITORIAL LIMITS OF THE DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT OF THE CITY OF MIAMI - FIXING NILLAGE AND LEVYING TAXES IN SAID DISTRICT FOR FISCAL TEAR BEGINNING OCTOBER 1, 1988. Mr. Fernandazi A nation. Vice Mayor Kennedy: It's been saved by Commissioner De Yurre. Mr. Dawkins: Yes, yea. Vice Mayor Kennady: Yes. And seconded. Please call the roll. Mr. Dawkins: No, the DDA budget? Vice Mayor Kennedy: Yes. Mr. Dawkins: I'll vote for it but I'm not going to second it. Vice Mayor Kennedy: Well, then I'll second. Mr. Plummer: Motion made by De Yurre, seconded by Kennedy to approve the DDA budget. Mr. Fernandes: To have the first reading of the ordinance fixing the millage rate as well as the... Mr. Plummer: Don't tell see about it. Mr. Fernandez: ... appropriations. Mr. Plummer: Read it. Mr. Fernandez: All nighty. No. Hirai: No, no, no. Excuse " , those are two different instruments. Mr. Fernandez: I know they are. Mr. Plummer: Notion understood? Any further discussion? Call the roll. • AN ORDINANCE EMTITLED- AN ORDINANCE DEFINING AND DESIGNATING THE TERRITORIAL LIMITS OF THE DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT OF THE CITY OF MIAMI LOCATED WITHIN THE TERRITORIAL LIMITS OF THE CITY OF MIM1I FOR THE PURPOSE OF TAXATION, FIXING THE MILLAGE AND LEVYING TAXES IN THE DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT LOCATED WITHIN THE TERRITORIAL LIMITS OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA, FOR THE FISCAL TEAR BEGINNING OCTOBER 1, 1988, AND ENDING SEPTEMBER 30, 1989, FIXING THE MILLAGE AT FIVE TENTHS (.5) MILLS ON THE DOLLAR OF THE NONEXEMPT ASSESSED VALUE OF ALL REAL AND PERSONAL PROPERTY IN SAID DISTRICT AND PROVING THAT THE SAID MILLAGE AND THE TAXES LEVIED HEREIN SHALL BE IN ADDITION TO THE FIXING OF THE MILLAGE AND THE LEVYING OF TAXES WITHIN THE TERRITORIAL LIMITS OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, WHICH IS CONTAINED IN THE GENERAL APPROPRIATION ORDINANCE FOR THE AFORESAID FISCAL TEAR AS REQUIRED BY SECTION 27 OF THE CITY CHARTER; PROVIDING THAT THE FIXING OF THE MILLAGE AND LEVYING OF TAXES HEREIN SHALL BE IN ADDITION TO SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS FOR IMPROVEMENTS IMPOSED BY THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF MIAMI WITHIN THE TERRITORIAL LIMITS OF THE CITY OF MIAMI; PROVIDED THAT THIS ORDINANCE SHALL NOT BE DEEMED AS REPEALING OR AMENDING ANY OTHER ORDINANCE FIXING MILLAGE OR LEVYING TAXES FOR THE FISCAL YEAR BEGINNING OCTOBER 1, 1988 AND ENDING SEPTEMBER 30, 1989, BUT SHALL BE DEEMED SUPPLEMENTAL AND IN ADDITION HERETO; CONTAINING A REPEALER PROVISION AND A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE. Was introduced by Commissioner De Yurre and seconded by Vice Mayor Kennedy and passed on its first reading by title by the following vote: AYES: Commissioner Victor De Turre Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins Vice Mayor Rosario Kennedy NOES: Coeroissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. ABSENT: Mayor Xavier L. Suarez The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and announced that copies were available to the members of the City Co Ission and to the public. Mr. Dawkins: Say what? Mr. Plummer: I said no. Mr. Dawkins: Wait a minute, I change my vote. Vice Mayor Kennedy: Oh, oh. Mr. Dawkins: Hold it, yes, ma'am. Didn't somebody say this vote had to be passed? Mr. Fernandez: It must be, yes. Mr. Dawkins: Why? Mr. Fernandez: Because otherwise, the... Mr. Plummer: No, no, excuse me now. Mr. Fernandez: Teo. Mr. Plummer: I asked you, did that have to be passed now. Ile• Ow low s you got to have two readings to pass the budget. Mr. Fernandez: Right. Y i-.. 41 s111MBQ f*. 0 Mr. Plummer: But you don't have to pass it today. Mr. Fernandez: We're not passing it today. This is the first ,-*ading of the ordinance, but unless the ordinance passes on first reading, it has to have a first reading sometime before it has a second. Mr. Plummer: No..... Mr. Fernandez: And within the... Mr. Plummer: ... that budget... Mr. Fernandez: ... statutory scheme, the first reading has to be had today before 12:00 o'clock midnight. Mr. Dawkins: I asked you, did this budget have to be passed today? Now you told me yes. Mr. Fernandez: The reading of this ordinance has to be approved today. Vice Mayor Kennedy: Mr. City Attorney, we don't get three votes, it can't come back for second reading. Mr. Fernandez: It cannot. Mr. Plummer: You go back to an original first meeting. Mr. Fernandez: But we cannot, within the statutory scheme, we do not have time to have a first reading. Mr. Dawkins: Do we have it as an emergency at the next meeting? Mr. Plummer: Hey, that budget has got to be tremendously modified as far as I'm concerned. Vice Mayor Kennedy: Why don't we pass it on first reading and then make the amendments at the second reading and... Mr. Fernandez: There is time to make amendments and changes before the second and final reading which is when you will be passing. Mr. Dawkins: Hold it, hold it. If I vote for it this time... Vice Mayor Kennedy: You can change your mind. Mr. Dawkins: .. I don't have to vote for it the next time? Vice Mayor Kennedy: Correct, you can change your mind or you can make amendments if you're not happy with the amendments, you can vote against it. Mr. Plummer: All right, let me ask you this question. Between first reading and second reading, let's assume they would like to get Commissioner Dawkins and Plumaoer's vote. Can they modify greatly and still have it in a second reading format? Mr. Fernandez: Yes, definitely. Mr. Plummer: Well... Mr. Dawkins: They may not need us because Commissioner Ds Turre may vote with them. Mr. Plummer: That's his choice, that's why he was *looted. And might stay elected. Mr. Dawkins: No kidding. Vice Mayor Kennedy: All right, I strongly suggest that the DDA... `< Mr. Plummar: The vote is taken unless we reconsider. 42 lbIM1►!# *•e � � �;r Vice Mayor Kennedy: ...board talk to Commissioners Plummer and Dawkins and everybody also that has a question between now and September the 27th. Mr. Dawkins: Well, I've never been - OK, go ahead. Mr. Plummer: Well, let me just give you one. The past director was paid what, $125.0007 Mr. Andolins: With fringe benefits, approximately a hundred twenty. Mr. Plummer: With fringe benefits. The Mayor, himself, is the head of the DDA has said that he doesn't intend to pay more than $70,000 for the new director. The same salary's in there for the old director. OK? I think that has to be greatly modified. And where's that money going to be used? This budget is fictitious as far as I'm concerned because it doesn't reflect the actual of what's going to happen. Mr. Andolins: The search committee that's looking for a new executive director not a salary range of between seventy and ninety, that's we left the ninety-six in. Mr. Plummer: The Mayor has said on the record many times in relation to all directors and has voted he would not vote above $70,000 for a director on any. That's the - any of them. He voted against the City Attorney's raise, didn't he? Mr. Fernandez: Sure did. Mr. Plummer: He sure did. OK. Nov, if that's the case, there's $50,000 freed up in your budget and I want to know where that $50,000 is going. OK? Hey, it's passed. -------------------------------------------- --------------------------------- 6. A - FIRST READING ORDINANCE: MAKE APPROPRIATIONS FOR THE DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY FOR FISCAL YEAR ENDING SEPTEMBER 30, 1989. B - AMEND PROPOSED ORDINANCE MAKING APPROPRIATIONS FOR THE DDA TO INCLUDE MINORITY PARTICIPATION REQUIREMENTS. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mr. Plummer: Go on to the next... you got two more relating to DDA. Mr. Fernandez: Needs to be moved and seconded before I read the appropriation ordinance. Vice Mayor Kennedy: All right. Ms. Hirai: I need a move and a second on item six. Mr. Dawkins: Ma'am, tell him now, if he does that, he's got... Vice Mayor Kennedy: OK, we have Mr. Dawkins to define and designate the territorial limits of the downtown development district, fix the millage and levy taxes. Mr. Fernandez: No, that's already been read and approved. We need item number six. Ms. Hirai: Madam Vice Mayor, number six. Mr. Dawkins: OK, all right... Mr. Fernandez: Which is the appropriations ordinance for DDA. Vice Mayor Kennedy: Mr. Dawkins... 5;! Mr. Dawkins: Teo na'am. Vice Mayor Kennedy: ... Mr. Do Turre, OK, moved. Second. Ms. Hirai: Who, excuse me... 43 •ice Mayor Kennedy: Mr. be Turre moved, Mr. Dawkins seconded. Mr. Fernandez: And I'll read it. (AT THIS POINT, THE CITY ATTORNEY READ THE ORDINANCE INTO THE RECORD BY TITLE ONLY) Mr. Dawkins: Is - gait a minute, before we call the roll. Is this - does this ordinance may that DDA comes under our minority - has to operate under our minority plan ordinance that we have? Vice Mayor Kennedy: Teo. Mr. Dawkins: If it doesn't, we'll amend it, Commisoioner. Vice Mayor Kennedy: It has to comply with the ordinance requirement. Mr. Fernandez: This ordinance per se may not make reference directly to that but there are other ordinances and I'm sure that they also must abide by... Mr. Dawkins: I'll ask my question again so that you and I are on the ease wave length. Does that ordinance dictate to the DDA that they must adhere to the minority participation ordinance that was passed by this Commission. Mr. Fernandez: Teo, it says that the director of the downtown development authority is hereby authorized to invite or advertise for bids for the purpose of any material equipment or service embraced in the aforementioned appropriations for which formal bidding is required. Such bids to be returnable as required by law and the City of Miami it's ordinances are considered applicable laws in this instance. So it's a very broad reference that's made to it. Mr. Dawkins: It's too broad, see, I haven't been here as long as J.L. , but I've been here to say things up here and when I go to the City Clark and pull the minutes, it does not say what we said. So now, I will vote for this if you amend it down there to say, the laws of the City of Miami including the minority participation ordinance. Mr. De Turre: I'll accept that amendment. Mr. Fernandez: Then we need a separate vote on the amendment that is being made. Mr. Dawkins: All right, I vote to reconsider the whole thing. I mean, I make a notion to reconsider. Mr. Plummer: What are we - I've lost something. Mr. Fernandez: Or we may call another roll vote with the amendment. Mr. De Yurre: Minority participation. Mr. Dawkins: I want them to include the minority... Vice Mayor Kennedys Minority set asides. Mr. Plummer: DDA. Mr. Dawkins: Tes. Vice Mayor Kennedy: DDA. Mr. Plummer: Fine. Mr. Dawkins: Too. J Mr. Fernandez: So with that included, would you call the roll again. Tits. Mr. De Turre: Is this a separate reading? p Mr. lernandesr No, you have accepted the amendment Gads by the smWawt... ' Mr. Do Turre: Into the ordinance. n Mr. Fornandes: Into the ordinance. Vice Mayor Kennedy: Into the ordinance. Mr. Plusmser: Oh, now, wait a minute. Dawkins you're not going to do that to me, whoa, whoa. You're not going to have me voting against minority Involvement. Mr. Dawkins: No, no... Mr. Plusher: Teo, you are, because if I vote no on the ordinance approving the DDA, it's going to reflect that I voted against minorities. Mr. Dawkins: Oh, OK. Vice Mayor Kennedy: Well, make it a separate than. Mr. Plummer: I want that as a separate vote. Mr. Dawkins: OK, OK, all right. Mr. Plummer: I'll vote for the minority but I'm voting against... Mr. Dawkine: W*11, don't say me, it's the Commission doing it to you. you jumping on me, I'm your brother? Mr. Plummer: Because you made the motion. No, don't you do that to me. Vice Mayor Kennedy: All right. Mr. Plummer: No... Vice Mayor Kennedy: So, Madam... Mr. Fernandes: So than, take a separate vote on the amendment. Vice Mayor Kennedy: Teo, we'll take a separate vote on the amendment. Mr. Plummer: You be the star in the Miami Times, not me. Vic* Mayor Kennady: OK, Madam City Clerk. AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED - AN ORDINANCE MAKING APPROPRIATIONS FOR THE DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY OF THE CITY OF MIAMI FOR THE FISCAL YEAR ENDING SEPTEMBER 30, 1989; AUTHORItING THE DIRECTOR OF THE DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY TO INVITE OR ADVERTISE BIDS FOR THE PURCHASE OF ANT MATERIAL, EQUIPMENT, OR SERVICE EMBRACED IN THE SAID APPROPRIATIONS FOR WHICH FORMAL BIDDING MAY BE REQUIRED PROVIDING THAT THIS ORDINANCE SHALL BE REQUIRED PROVIDING THAT THIS ORDINANCE SHALL BE SUPPLEMENTAL AND IN ADDITION TO THE ORDINANCE MAKING APPROPRIATIONS FOR THE FISCAL YEAR ENDING SEPTEMBER 30, 1989. FOR THE OPERATION OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA; CONTAINING A REPEALER PROVISION AND A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE. Why Was introduced by Commissioner Do Turre and seconded by Commissioner Dawkins and passed on its first reading by title by the following votes AYESs Commissioner Victor Do Turre Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins Vice Mayor Rosario Kennedy MOSS: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.; ASSSNT: Mayor Xavier L. Suarez The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commission and to the public. COMMENTS MADE DURING ROLL CALL: Mr. Plummer: Tell as ghat this vote is on. Mr. Dawkins: On the DDA budget, DDA budget. Mr. Plummer: The separate issue of minorities? Mr. Dawkins: No, the DDA budget. Vice Mayor Kennedy: This is the first issue. Mr. Plummer: OK, on the DDA budget, I vote no. COMMENTS MADE FOLLOWING ROLL CALL: Mr. Plummer: Now make your motion about them involvement in minority. Ms. Hirai: No, this motion was to amend.... Mr. Dawkins: Word it, Mr. City Attorney. Word it. Give us the legal word. Mr, Fernandes: OK. Madam Clark, are you clear on what's happening? Mr. Plummer: You can sure tell he's a short timer. Ms. Hirai: I am, I don't think Commissioner Plummer is. We passed the ordinance and than Mr. Dawkins would like a motion to amend it to say that they must abide with those requirements. Mr. Plummer: Is that the second motion... Vice Mayor Kennedy: That is the second motion. Ms. Hirai: Teo, sir. Mr. Plummer: That I vote change - I vote yes. Ms. Hirai: Yes, all right. Mr. Plummer: But on the budget, I vote no. Vice Mayor Kennedy: That is understood. Ms. Hirai: Yes, that had been taken before and you... Mr. Plummer: OK. Vice Mayor Kennedy: But you had voted against it. Mr. Dawkins: Are we legally right now? Vice Mayor Kennedy: Now, with the minority set aside, can we do it? Me. Hirai: The DDA. Vice Mayor Kennedy: Mr. City Attorney. Mr. Dawkins: Are we legally right? Ma. Hirai: Tao, OK, OK, you were. Mr. Plummer: Hey, I know what I'm saying. Mr. Fornandest Too. Mr. Piwmsrm It's towing in two Darts. **forcing the minority. 7 t 3 one It the beftat aw #fit mar:'< Mr. Fornandes: Are we clear, Madam? Ms. Hirai: Teo. Mr. Fernandes: Teo, it's clear then. Tou'v*, in fact, taken two votes already. And the record should be clear that Commissioner Plummer has voted negative in torus of the appropriation ordinance, but affirmatively in terns of adding the minority. Me. Hirai: Teo. Vice Mayor Kennedy: OK, the second motion on the minority set sold* was moved by Commissioner Dawkins and seconded by... Ms. Hirai: Do Turre, Commissioner Do Turro. Vice Mayor Kennedy: Commissioner De Yurr*, OK. Ms. Hirai: Um hum. Mr. Plummar: Now where are we? Mrs. Kennedy: Now we call the roll on that. Me. Hirai: Just to clear the record on this last motion, I would like to call the roll again. Vice Mayor Kennedy: Call the roll on that, yes. Ms. Hirai: Roll call, Mr. Dawkins, on the motion to amend it. The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Dawkins, who moved its adoption: MOTION NO. 88-631 A MOTION AMENDING THE D.D.A. FY 66-89 APPROPRIATIONS ORDINANCE, PASSED AND ADOPTED ON FIRST READING, TO INCLUDE AND CLEARLY STATE THE CITY OF MIAMI'S MINORITY PARTICIPATION REQUIREMENTS. Upon being seconded by Commissioner Do Yurre, the motion was passed and adopted by the following vote: AYES: Cosmaissioner Victor De Turre Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Vice Mayor Rosario Kennedy NOES: None. ASSENT: Mayor Xavier L. Suarez COMMENTS MADE DURING ROLL CALL: Mr. Plummer: Amending for the minority involvement, I vote yes. COMMENTS MADE FOLLOWING ROLL CALL: Vice Mayor Kennedy: And that is the last item. Mr. Plummar: No, you have... Vice Mayor Kennedy: .....have one more? Mr. Plwsmer: What about six? •ice Mayor Kennedy: That was six. Mr. Forn"doz: That was six. M: A? 3 Mr. Plummer: All right. Mr. Dawkins: Go ahead, you ware going to..... ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ?. A. RECONSIDER PREVIOUSLY TAKEN VOTE CONCERNING CONTRACT FOR CUSTODIAL SERVICES AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. B. APPROVE EXTENSION OF EXISTING CONTRACT WITH PRODUCTION ASSOCIATES, INC. FOR CUSTODIAL SERVICES TO THE POLICE ADMINISTRATION BUILDING FOR AN ADDITIONAL TEAR. Mr. Plummer: Mr. Manager, yesterday we had a very long discussion on the custodial as it relates to the police department. I have had some discussions - I'■ still feeling and I want to reiterate what I said yesterday that I feel that it's high. My fear is that we will not be able to match that price as it was before. I'm going to find fault with the administration whether you want to accept it or not, but you came at me at the last minute and told me I had no choice. When you do that, you put my back to the wall. I'■ telling you I normally will vote no, but after looking it over, I would like to reconsider that motion whatever it was of yesterday and I so move for reconsideration. Mr. Dawkins: Second. Vice Mayor Kennedy: OK, Just call the roll. The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved its adoption: MOTION NO. 88-832 A MOTION TO RECONSIDER PREVIOUSLY TAKEN NOTE (MOTION GO- $28, PASSED AND ADOPTED SEPTEMBER 8, 1988) TO EXTEND EXISTING CONTRACT WITH PRODUCTION ASSOCIATES, INC. TO FURNISH CUSTODIAL SERVICES TO THE POLICE ADMINISTRATION BUILDING. Upon being seconded by Commissioner Dawkins, the motion was passed and adopted by the following vote: AYES: Commissioner Victor De Turre Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Vice Mayor Rosario Kennedy NOES: None. ABSENT: Mayor Xavier L. Suarez Mr. Plummer: I now make a motion in relation to the custodial services for the Miami Police Department as presented yesterday period. Vice Mayor Kennedy: Do we have a second? Mr. Dawkins: Second and under discussion. Vice Mayor Kennedy: All right. Mr. Plummer: Oh, I got discussion. Mr. Dawkins: OK, you can go first. Vice Mayor Kennedy: I can see that cowing. Mr. Plusmar: Under discussion. Mr. Manager, I'm going to tell you, I v4pt you to start yesterday because I believe that number can, in fast, ome 410"t OK? But I don't rant to take the chance as we left it yesterday that we RoaW lose the only bid that we have at the present tine. fleas* dsm't pat #W Inc to the wall and telling me I've got to vote today or it won't bappea. Mr. Dawkins: Mr. Manager, I want to tell you that I was happy that it was killed. I regret that it was brought back and passed because the amount arrived at was arrived at because this Coimoission ordered the Manager to go in and hire people and do a study to determine how the building should be cleaned and what it would cost. And with those figures, the Manager let an RYP and according to the conditions that were dreamed up by us, we got a bid of $125,000. The individuals was glad to work with the City and the City took advantage of the individual by locking it into a no escalation at all contract. So now, for $125,000 the individual is going to do the building and yet in the next two months we will add a whole floor of computera that were not there when the individual bid it originally and the computers will require 24 hour services in the arse where they are and it's just unfair to have done that and that's why I want to tell you, just like J.L. is looking at trying to cut costs, I'm going to be looking at a way to increase costs. Mr. Odio: I have to remind Commissioner Plummer that we are moving the computers department over there and at some point and that area is not under this contract. She doesn't go In there now so we're going to have to - Commissioner Plummer, I wish you... Mr. Dawkins: Mr. Plummer... Mr. Plummer: Sir? Mr. Dawkins: ... the Manager needs your undivided attention. Mr. Odio: No, no, seriously because we are adding as we move into - I hope, in three or four months, into the building with the computers department, that area will be added to this contract. So you are not going to sea a reduction, we're going to have to adjust to that. Mr. Plummer: Well, take that out of the $250,000 that we got snookered on before making it mandatory that they had to have a policemen on the door in 24 hours a day. You'll now be saving that $250,000, so take it out of there. Mr. Odio: I know, but I mean - fine, I will, but you mean this... Mr. Plummer: Hey, you want to play numbers with me, I'll stay here and match you toe to toe all night long. Go ahead. Mr. Odio: I don't want to. Mr. Plummer: He who talks too such has a fool a client or something like that. Vice Mayor Kennedy: Mr. Plummer, let me ask you. I wasn't here when that item was considered last night, so you would like for the Manager to go out and... Mr. Plummer: No, all I'm saying is to start looking to try to find a way to reduce... Vice Mayor Kennedy: OK. Mr. Plummer: That's all. Vice Mayor Kennedy: All right, you heard? You don't need a vote. Mr. Robert Clark: Yes, you do. Vice Mayor Kennedy: You do? Mr. Plummer: sure, you got to have a vote. Ms. Hirai: We already called a vote on the... Mr. Plummer: All we've voted was to reconsider. Vice Mayor Kennedy: OK. Mr. Fernandes: To reconsider. i a, r a Me. Hirsi: well, all right, so... roll call... Mr. Fernandes: That was a vote to reconsider. Vice Mayor Kennedy: All right, is there a motion than for Commissioner Plum... Mr. Plummer: Is there an extra charge for calling the roll one more time? Me. Hirai: No, sir. Vice Mayor Kennedy: Is there a notion on Cosmissioner Plummer's motion? Me. Hirsi: Roll call... Vice Mayor Kennedy: Is there a second on Commissioner Plummer's motion? Mr. Dawkina: I second it. Vice Mayor Kennedy: OK. The following resolution was introduced by Cossissiomer Plummer, who moved its adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 88-633 A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE EXTENSION OF THE EXISTING CONTRACT WITH PRODUCTION ASSOCIATES, INC. TO FURNISH CUSTODIAL SERVICES TO THE POLICE ADMINISTRATION BUILDING FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF GENERAL SERVICES ADMINISTRATION BID NO. 86-87-059 FOR AN ADDITIONAL ONE (1) TEAR PERIOD TO THE DEPARTMENT OF GENERAL SERVICES ADMINISTRATION AT A TOTAL PROPOSED COST OF $125,856.001 ALLOCATING FUNDS THEREFOR FROM THE 1987-88 ($20,976.00) AND 1988-89 ($104,880.00) OPERATING BUDGET ACCOUNT CODE NO. 421001-340; AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO INSTRUCT THE CHIEF PROCUREMENT OFFICER TO ISSUE A PURCHASE ORDER FOR THIS SERVICE, SUBJECT TO THE AVAILABILITY OF FUNDS. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.) 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