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Home My WebLink AboutCC 1989-04-13 Minutesi wrr w qa Ar c�/•�' F_ { IND$X ..- r��sttt+rrtA fi1M �Rt�riLAR !!g$TIIiG NO. PLAQUES, PRESENTATIONS AND SPECIAL DISCUSSION 1-2 w� i. 4/13/89 ITEMS. _. DISCUSSION ON DEMOLITION OF UNSAFE DISCUSSION 2-9 STRUCTURES. 4/13/89 3. CONSENT AGENDA. 9 4/13/89 3.1 APPROVE DONATION OF 18 IMPOUNDED R 89-310 10 BICYCLES TO STATE OF FLORIDA MIAMI- 4/13/89 NORTH CORRECTIONAL INSTITUTION. 3.2 AUTHORIZE PURCHASE OF THREE COUNTER- R 89-311 10 SNIPER FIREARM SYSTEMS FOR POLICE DEPT. 4/13/69 3.3 AUTHORIZE PURCHASE OF .10 PAIRS OF R 89-312 10 BINOCULARS AND 14 SURVEILLANCE KITS FOR 4/13/89 POLICE DEPT. 3.4 ACCEPT BID,; OF TECHNICAL CONSTRUCTION R 89-313 10 CORPORATION for furnishing pressure 4/13/89 cleaning and waterproofing of lower, press boxes' at Orange Bowl for GSA. 3.`5 ACCEPT BID OF LAWMAN'S AND SHOOTERS, R 89-314` 11 ; INC...- for. furnishing 400 cases.- of 4/13/89 flares for Police Department. 3.6 ACCEPT BID OF MANTELL ENGINEERING R 89-315 11i CONTRACTORS,, INC. for.."Local. Drainage 4/13/89,': 'r ' Project E-59 (Project No..352267). 3.7 ACCEPT EXTENSION OF EXISTING" CONTRACT R 89-316 11 WITH;. G.E. METCALF & CO., INC. for 4/l3/89, furnishing of red clay for annual ballf ield refurbishing .at City parks. 3.8 AUTHORIZE PURCHASE OF ONE DODGE B-350 R 89-317 11-12 ti 1-TON VAN FROM REGENCY DODGE_ under 4/13/89 r existing `State of Florida,Contract No. 070-300-403 - to be used as a surveillance van by Police 'Department Crack Task Force. } =d 3. 9 ` AUTHORIZE : EXX=MON Of A GRANT/LO/1N AGREEMENT. WITH: THE ;'BLAC�t ARCiiIVE$ FOUNDATIAN, INC. - for: _ re}s�cxatioA��reconstruction of D+orsey Hpuse "Allocate funds frotp; Cosanuaity : 3 r= a''rx pex►e.iopmept Black Gant 'ends : = r „} �}�� ,. 3.10 RECOGNIZE TAX-EXEMPT STATUS CLATMIP BF` R'$9 319 G1tAN LOGIA DS CUBA, A MASONIC TEMPS Authorize; �' aanae .Dlx1�c QF �o. I'p. y q�onies c,laia►as1 by said organiatioa. r + i 1 r_ pp 3.11 URGEMETROPOLITAN DADE COUNTY TO R 89-320 1'2 .. INSTALL STATIONARY THREE-WAY AND FOUR- 4/13/89 .;: WAY STOP SIGNS - at intersections of SW 20th and List Streets at SW 33rd Avenue and SW 18th, 20th and 2111t Streets at Coral Gate Drive. WAIVEGREEN FEES AT MELREESE GOLF R 89-321 13 COURSE AND CITY OF MIAMI COUNTRY CLUB 4/13/89 AT MIAMI SPRINGS - for participants in Greater Miami Women's Golf Association Tournaments. 3.13 DIRECT CITY CLERK TO PUBLISH NOTICE OF R 89-322 13 PUBLIC HEARING FOR OBJECTIONS TO 4/13/89- ACCEPTANCE OF COMPLETED CONSTRUCTION BY? — ROB -EL CONSTRUCTION CORPORATION OF MANOR HIGHWAY IMPROVEMENT PHASE III (CIP 341090). _ ' 3.14 ACCEPT COMPLETED WORK OF ROB -EL R 89-323 13 _ CONSTRUCTION - for Latin Quarter Paving 4/13/89 Project -Phase III (CIP 341086) - Authorize final payment. s 3.15 ACCEPT COMPLETED WORK OF MCO R 89-324 13 ; CONSTRUCTION INC. - for South District 4/13/89 Police Substation Building Demolition (CIP 312008) - Authorize final payment 3.16 AUTHORIZE INCREASE OF SCOPE OF R 89-325 14 RESOLUTIONS 88-1056 AND 88-1058 - 'to 4/13/89 include installation and maintenance of temporary barricades across certain streets in Miami Design District. 3.17 APPROVE STREET CLOSURES FOR MIAMI BUD R 89-326 14. LIGHT U.S. TRIATHLON - to be conducted 4J13/89 by Cat Sports, Inc. `1 3.18 APPROVE STREET CLOSURES. FOR PROCESSION R 89-327 TO BE CONDUCTED BY RENOVACION 4/13/89 s� r '3 CARISMATICA CATOLICA HISPANA. 3.19 APPROVE STREET CLOSURES FOR PARADE TO R 89-328 14- BE'CONDUCTED BY CITY OF MIAMI COMMITTEE 4/13/89 t� ON BEAUTIFICATION AND ENVIRONMENT. • esa:; 3.20 APPROVE STREET CLOSURES FOR R 89-319 15 x • _ MANUFACTURERS HANOVER CORPORATE 4/13/89 CHALLENGE - to be conducted by Greater Miami Running Association. r 3.21 APPROVE STREET CLOSURES FOR LIONS CLUB R 89-330 15 "" INTERNATIONAL CONVENTION PARADE - to be 4/13/89 conducted by International Association of, Lions Club. ;{ 3.22 APPROVE- STREET CLOSURES ESTABLISHMENT R 89-331 15s�Sz OU PEDESTRIAN MALL & AREA PROHIBITED TO 4/13/89 a� RETAILS FOR .11TH ANNUAL COCONUT _PEDDLERS • GROVE .BED, RACE - sponsored by • Muscul$r � T}ys rophq A oociat,ion. _ � 3.23 ACCEPT PLAT ENTITLED "LAVIGNE'ESTATES': R 89 _i 9.24 ACCEPT PI.Ax ENTITLED "ST. HICHAEL' S. R , PARISH SUBDIVISION", d f 9 i s i—�',y - � i x� k r � • pt r" �..s�_, - - { ..+ :•� ✓,f :+-,; ..t,S.,-7fza nwGt$kz aka�� - 3i ACCEPT BID OF ARGOS INTERNATIONAL, R 89-334 16-17 F. INC. - for furnishing air filtraton 4/13/89 system for Police Department (Project No. 312015), 5. ACCEPT DID OF MUSASHI R 89-335 17-20 _ #1iTSRNATIONAL, INC. - for 4/13/89 furnishing office furniture for — Police Department (Project No. a'- 312007). 14, AUTHORIZE NEGOTIATION 6. OF LEASE M 89-336 20-22 AGREEMENT WITH GROVECOMPO, INC. - for 4/13/89 office space and microwave room on roof of building located at 2850 Tigertail ti Avenue. x _ CONDITIONALLY ALLOCATE $30,000 FROM M 89-337 23�-24 7. SOLID WASTE DEPARTMENT OPERATING BUDGET 4/13/89 IN SUPPORT OF "KEEP DADE BEAUTIFUL PROJECT" (Later formalized by R-89- _ 349 - see label 23). S. REPORT BY CITIZENS' INDEPENDENT REVIEW DISCUSSION 24-25 — PANEL. 4/13/69 9. A. DISCUSSION - ALFRED DUPONT BUILDING DISCUSSION 25-42 AS ADMINISTRATION R 89-338 BUILDING. R 89-338.1 B. URGE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO ALLOCATE M 89-339 l $70,000,000 TO CITY 4/13/89 OF MIAMI .TO ASSIST IN FIGHTING DRUGS. (COCAINE CAPITAL) C. DESIGNATE. COMMISSIONER MILLER DAWKINS AS THE CITY'S EMISSARY TO PERSONALLY DELIVER ABOVE_ CITED RESOLUTION TO APPROPRIATE GOVERNMENT _ OFFICIALS. D. DIRECT ADMINISTRATION TO STUDY RECOMMENDATION FOR USE .OF BUILDING_ ,-— LOCATED. AT, 4400 BISCAYNE BOULEVARD AS NEW .CITY ADMINISTRATION BUILDING prepare financial, analysis _ and recommendation for next Commission- meeting. ,= 10. APPROVE CITY ATTORNEY'S RECOMMENDATION M 89-340 43-44 - FOR EXTENSION OF SCHEDULED .,CEOSING,DATE 4/13189 is �y e FOR SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT WITH OWNERS OF BRICKELL PARK AND POINTE PROPERTIES 11. APPROVE ALLOCATION OF $500,000 AS FIRST M 89-341 44-56 INSTALLMENT PAYMENT TOWARD ACQUISITION 4/13/89$ OF CAMILLUS HOUSE PROPERTY.` 12. INSTRUCT CITY ATTORNEY TO ENSURE M 89-342 56-58 RECOGNITION, OF THE ,,CITY, OF MIAMI =SEAL 4/13/89, ri PRESENTLY USED.AS,THE OFFICIAL SEAL OF y THE CITY. OF MIAMI. a - .. 13. AUTHORIZE, PURCHASE OF ADDITIONALr' R 89-343 MICROCOMPUTERS AND ;PERIPHERAL; EQUIPMENT. 4/13/09' FROM UNISY.under "# i `W.� existing Dade County Bid" �lwarcl Contract r;a`a�; ado.. 1059�;1/80 for .Law Department. } � — t r 41-Z-X . r� N — �si'irL'�, �i f`t'#� ��.. s" f4s b19CtSS AND DEFER FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION 59-61 5 INFORMATION PROPOSED EXTENSION OF LEASE 4/13/89 AGREEMENT WITH AMERIFIRST BANK TO RENEW LASE OF OFFICE $PACE IN DOWNTOWN AREA, - 15. DISCUSS AND TABLE PROPOSED FIRST DISCUSSION 61-63 READING ORDINANCE = Amending Miami 4/13/89 Waterfront Advisory Board Ordinance - require that all issues concerning city -owned waterfront property be brought before said Board before they are submitted to any other City Board. - 16. OPEN REFER FOR APPROPRIATE TABULATION M 89-344 63-65 SEALED BIDS RECEIVED FOR THE DOWNTOWN 4/13/89 HIGHWAY IMPROVEMENT PHASE II, BID "A", B-4521. 17. FIRST READING ORDINANCE: Amend Code ORDINANCE 66-69 Section 54-100 - Allow for construction FIRST READING and . location of guard houses in 4/13/89 dedicated right-of-way. - Is. A. DISCUSS AND TEMPORARILY TABLE FOR DISCUSSION 70-71 FURTHER INFORMATION PROPOSED EMERGENCY 4/13/89 ORDINANCE - establishing two new _ special revenue funds: (i) Summer Youth — Employment and Training Program, FY 189/JTPA II-B", and (ii) "DHRS/Entrant Assistance, FY 189" - allocating funds from the South Florida Training Consortium: B. TABLEPROPOSED RESOLUTION ALLOCATING $138,600 TO BELAFONTE TACOLCY CENTER, - INC. - for operation of the dropout prevention component of the FY 189 JTPA title II-B Summer Youth Employment: and _ Training Program (See labels 25:,-and 26) 19. EMERGENCY. ORDINANCE: -Amend ORDINANCE 71-76 , Ordinance 10521 as•.follows: (a) 10566 _ appropriate $50,000 to' "Citywide 4/13/89 - Park Equipment"'(No. 331339);`(b) - appropriate. '$75','000 to "Virginia "? Key Park Development -Phase I" (No.` 331440); (c) increase appropriations for "Citywide Neighborhood Park Renovations" (No.-331303), (d) identify source of.funding for the "Athalie Range Park. -. Pool Replacement" (No. 331348).. 20. A) .SUPPORT CONCEPT OF LOCATING A R 89.-345 76-98 PERFORMING', ARTS, CENTER COMPLEX IN. R 89-346 =='M DOWNTOWN AREA. _ 89-347 R '< B) SUPPORT: CONCEPT OF TAXINCREMENT4/13/69.. FINANCING as funding mechanism to.. construct and develop. Performing :Arts- Complex - Pursue ::joint- public/privatoi - ' venture:. : C) TRU.i ST T..ENCOURAGE,- A L: RECOGNIZE:GUSMAN ".. CULTURAI, CENTER,` ANAiZ, OLY$pIV=... BUILDING` AS `IMVORTANT COMPONENTS IN THIS PROJECT. • l tk 4 Ut - �1 �' � t aid � �� ¢� a��•3vP��i �d}rj �� a ----- z F�fr f 4t 2 3 $1 DISCUSS AND CONTINUE TO MEETING OF APRiL 21TH= (A) PROPOSED RESOLUTION AtlTHORIft#NG SUBMISSION TO U.S. HUD OF APPROVED GRANT PROGRAM FINAL STATEMENT REQUESTING $11,142,000 FOR C-D. PROGRAM 1484/90; ($) PROPOSED FIRST READING ORDINANCE ESTABLISHING SPECIAL REVENUE FUND (CDBG 15TH YEAR) - Direct Administration to hold staff workshop with interested social service agencies. 1 M 89-348 98-101 ORDINANCE FIRST READING 4/13/89 22. (A) DISCUSSION WITH ADMINISTRATION DISCUSSION 101-113 REGARDING NATIONWIDE MONEY ALLOCATION 4/13/89 FROM HUD IN HOUSING ASSISTANCE FOR THE HOMELESS. (B) HOUSING DEPARTMENT REORGANIZATION AND STAFFING. (C) REGARDING 23. 24. 25. 26. ss� 27. 28. DISCUSSION WITH CITY MANAGER PROHIBITION FOR CITY EMPLOYEES TO DIRECTLY INTERACT WITH CITY COMMISSIONERS. (Continued Discussion): "KEEP DADE R 89-349 113-114 BEAUTIFUL, INCORPORATED" PROGRAM: 4/13/89 Allocate $30,000 from 1988-89 Solid Waste Department Operating Budget (See label 7). REFER TO MANAGER FUNDING REQUEST M 89-350 114-124 FROM SONNY WRIGHT REGARDING 4/13/89 PROPOSED REVITALIZATION/EXPANSION OF CARVER HOTEL - Direct Manager : to report" back at April 27th meeting - Postpone demolition of Carver Hotel. (Continued Discussion): EMERGENCY ORDINANCE 125-126 - ORDINANCE: Establish new special 10567 revenue funds: (a) "Summer Youth 4/13/89 Employment and Training- Program, FY ' 189/JTPA II-B", and (b) "DHRS/Entrant Assistance, FY 189" (See label 18). FY 189/JTPA II-B SUMMER YOUTH R 89-351 126 EMPLOYMENT AND TRAINING PROGRAM - 4/13/89. Allocate $138,600 to Belafonte Tacolcy Center, Inc. EMERGENCY ORDINANCE: Establish fund: ORDINANCE 127 "Summer Food Service Program for 10568 - Children 1989" - Authorize Manager to 4/13/89 accept grant award from U.S. Department of Agriculture. CONDITIONALLY AUTHORIZE DADE COUNTY TO R 89-352 128 ACCEPT BIDS TO PROVIDE USDA APPROVED 4/13/89 ' LUNCHES TO ELIGIBLE CHILDREN DURING 'S SUMMER OF 1989. N SECOND READING ORDINANCE: Amend ORDINANCE 128 129' Ordinance10484" - - Increase 10569t�4� appropriations-- for Special Programs & 4/13/89 "`f�.5{0 Accounts, International. Trade Promotionz and increase revenues from; see, be collected from participants- "attending Second "'' Miami Conference on y InterAmerican Trade and Investment'. ,w# r nja� � Li�ITf f It 7 Ci4f 1. T F j 5 - 4ly Y4. � , ., �% - ..� .fi ♦.. .. _ . X .'� _ t . f..YM ? F5. t_ik`Y.+��H��'{�'��. �f�Mty/�Y��.S APR Of 3b. SECOND READING ORDINANCE: Amend Code ORDINANCE 129-13b Section 424 = Provide for assessment 10570 of charges for provision of special 4J13/89 departmental services. 31. SECOND READING ORDINANCE: Amend Code ORDINANCE 130-132 Section 38-82 - Provide that the 10571 Eayfront Park Management Trust may 4/13/89 reserve the park on behalf of the City for 30 days each year for community use or Trust sponsored events. 32. SECOND READING ORDINANCE: Amend ORDINANCE 132-133 Ordinance 10413 - increase 10572 appropriation to special revenue fund: 4/13/89 - - "Pre -School Program Consolidated" from program participation fees and designated food reimbursements from USDA. 33. SECOND READING ORDINANCE- Amend ORDINANCE 133-134 _ Ordinance 10521 - Increase project: 10573 — _ "Fire Rescue New Apparatus 4/13/89 Acquisition - FY 189" (No. 313229) - Appropriate funds from Department of - Health Rehabilitative Services Grant. — 34. FIRST READING ORDINANCE: Amend ORDINANCE 134-139 Ordinance 10484 - Increase FIRST READING appropriations in Internal Service 4/13/89 Fund: General Services Administration= Fleet Management from Certificate of — Participation Notes and Utility Service Taxes. 35. BRIEF `DISCUSSION AND TEMPORARILY TABLE DISCUSSION 139-140 PROPOSED - FIRST READING ORDINANCE 4/13/89 AMENDING ORDINANCE 10521 - by r establishing new projects "Preliminary Special Obligation Bond expense FY 189" (No. 311013) (See label 44). 36. DISCUSS AND ' WITHDRAW PROPOSED FIRST DISCUSSION 141-143 $° READING ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING ISSUANCE 4/13/89 OF GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS - in ra. principal amount of $250,000,000 to satisfy legal obligation of the City regarding annual contributions to pension fund. 37. DISCUSS AND DEFER FOR FURTHER STUDY M 89-353 143-149 PROPOSED FIRST READING ORDINANCE 4/13/89 CONCERNING AMENDMENT OF CODE CHAPTER 4 ("Alcoholic Beverages"). y 38. FIRST READING ORDINANCE: Amend ORDINANCE 150-151 Ordinance 10455 - Increase FIRST READING .�. appropriation to special revenue funds 4/13/89 "JTPA Title`I/Older Worker (FY and,."JTPA Title IIA/Neighborhoods Jobs nY Program ''(FY '89)" the„operation of ,,< - _for Neighborhoods Job Programs. «r aP . 4 ` E}MCUTE AGREEMENT S.VEER 3WIH } R 8539 LUKIS - ` for professionlegislative 4/13/89 - consultant services' concerning' Federal €4 legislation ,impacting on City of Miami.zt� (lobbyist) c 10 ram. - +40. ALLOCATE $105,000 TO TROPICAL R 89-355 153-159 CLEAR BLUE LAUNDRY SYSTEMS, 4/13/89 INC. - to acquire and manage a Short Stop of Florida, Inc., fast — food franchise at $400 N.W. 7th Avenue. 41. RATIFY CITY MANAGER'S FINDING OF R 69-356 159-160 EMERGENCY REGARDING ACQUISITION OF 4/13/89 REMOTE DATA COMMUNICATION PRINTER FROM COMPUTER SUPPORT AND SUPPLIES, INC. } 42. DISCUSS AND TABLE PROPOSED AGREEMENT DISCUSSION 160 _ WITH SOUTHEAST BANK - for provision of 4/13/89 lockbox services. 43. APPOINT UNDERWRITING TEAMS FOR R 89-357 161-167 FORTHCOMING CITY OF MIAMI NEGOTIATED 4/13/89 BOND ISSUANCES - Manager to negotiate —. contract. 44. (Continued Discussion): FIRST READING ORDINANCE 167 ORDINANCE: Amend Ordinance 10521 - by FIRST READING _ establishing new projects "Preliminary 4/13/89 Special Obligation Bond Expense FY189" - (No. 311013) (See label 35). 45. SELECT AND APPOINT- UNDERWRITING TEAM R 89-358 168-169 FOR FEDERAL LAW ENFORCEMENT PROJECT 4/13/89 BOND SALE - Manager to negotiate contract. 46. ACCEPT RECOMMENDATION OF AUDIT ADVISORY R 89-359 170-171 COMMITTEE TOP TOP THREE TEAMS OF CERTIFIED 4/13/89 PUBLIC ACCOUNTING FIRMS (Deloitte 4- Haskins; and` Sells; Sharpton,.'Brunson _ and Compan, PA; and Verdeja, ,Iriondo ; and Gravies, CPAs) - regarding services as external auditors for the City - authorize Manager to negotiate contract] with highest ranked firm.' - 47. AUTHORIZE TEMPORARY RESTRICTION- OF: R 89-360 171-185'- VEHICULAR'' ACCESS -` ON 90-DAY TRIAL 4/13/89: y BASIS -; N.E. 70th, 71st and 72nd r{, x Streets,: at -district boundary line on easterly side of Biscayne:Boulevard. %pp 48. ACCEPT PROPOSAL OF'AMERICAN�"TELEPHONE R 89-361 185-187 AND``TELEGRAPH-CORPORATION (AT&T) for 4/13/89 - �_• multi -year lease/purchase of` Citywide telephone system. >' 49. ACCEPT COMPLEMENTARY `,PROPOSALS ..OF R 89-362 187-197 - ENVIRONMENTALSYSTEMS -:RESEARCH 4/13/89 INSTITUTE (ESRI).AND DIGITAL EQUIPMENT CORPORATION .:(DEC):: FOR `SOFTWARE AND HARDWARE.' COMPONENTS OF A GEOGRAPHIC INFORMATION ,SYSTEM ( GI S) ► 5rf 50. ACCEPT DONATION BY ;GTE INTECH, INC, OF R 89 363 197-198 COMPUTER `'" SOFTWARE AND" SERVICES NECESSARY, '' TO " DEVELOP A MODEL '`OF CITY' S . TRASH:` COLLECTION SYSTEM .- , with" monies allocated from ,Geographic Information System (Capital Project No 314232) Y r -r , - L�s. tt t=4 tp a 4 r gq i Y 1 ACCEPT GRANT FROM TACOLCY ECONOMIC R 89-364 198-199 DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION - for revenue 4/13/89 — fund: "Edison Center Gateway Improvements" - for landscape construction for Edison Center _ Commercial Revitalisation Area Y- Accept - grant and enter into agreement with TEDC - Accept bid from Build -all Construction, Inc. for landscape — construction services. 52. EMERGENCY ORDINANCE: Amend Ordinance ORDINANCE 200 — 10521 - Increase appropriation for 10574 Edison Center Gateway Improvements 4/13/89 (Project No. 322054) as a grant from Tacolcy Economic Development and from Florida Department of Transportation. `^ 53. ACCEPT BID OF BUILD -ALL CONSTRUCTION, R 89-365 201 INC. - for Edison Decorative Sidewalk 4/13/89 - Project B-4535. 54. ACCEPT BID OF GLANZ TECHNOLOGIES, R 89-366 201-202 INC. - for furnishing and installation 4/13/89 of video equipment for Project City = View for Police Department. 55. DISCUSS - AND TEMPORARILY DEFER DISCUSSION 202-203 . APPOINTMENT TO HERITAGE CONSERVATION 4/13/89 — BOARD (See label 57). 56. APPOINT HECTOR.GASCA AND SILVIO DIAZ TO M 89-367 203-204 - LATIN.QUARTER.REVIEW BOARD. 4/13/89 57. (Continued Discussion): APPOINTMENT TO R 89-368 204 HERITAGE CONSERVATION BOARD - Appointed 4/13/89 was: Leonardo Alvarez (See label 55). M 58. COMMISSION ON THE- STATUS OF WOMEN: R 8.9-369 205-206 . Confirm appointments Appointed were.: 4/13/89 Alicia Baro, Conchy Bretos, Nikki Beare, Cynthia Cochran, .Blanca Galvez., Luisa Garcia -Toledo, Ruby Hemingway, Monna Lighte, Mary McCray, Judy Miller, Anita Rafky, Verneka Silva, Kathleen Shea, Julie Tiger and C1are.Whelan. 59. RATIFY CITY MANAGER'S FINDING OF R 89-370 206 EMERGENCY REGARDING THE MOBILIZATION OF 4/13/89 POLICE AND OTHER PUBLIC SAFETY AGENCIES m, DUE TO JANUARY 16, 1989 CIVIL DISTURBANCE Authorize, purchase, of food, tear gas, gas masks, body shields and helmets from various vendors, and STX radio batteries from Motorola Communications and Electronics, Inc, f .. �_•1. � p�iw:;3 60. AUTHORIZE SUBMISSION OF AMENDID 14TH R 89-371 207-208', YEAR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT:BLOCK GRANT 4/13/89 (CDBG) PROGRAM FINAL STATEMENT TO_U,.S. HUD..- Refleo;.t allocation of. $.1,500,000 t �$ for a CD "Float Grant'!,' Loan. (1989-90) ' cS Authorize . Mangex to gresenx for ComM$VPion approval all agreements required to provide a loan to Chalken kfiw Corporation for renovation of a building and establishment of`�2 i g neighborhood nonprofit vocational a i r ,.r• x ! _ y 61. CO-D$$YT3NATE 8TH AVENUE WEST FROM SW R 89-372 208-209 11TH STREET TO NW 4TH STREET AS "PEDRO 4/13/89 LUIS BOITEL AVENUE". - 62. ACCEPT COMPLETED WORK OF M. VILA AND R 89-373 209-210 ASSOCIATES, INC. FOR ALLAPATTAH HIGHWAY 4/13/89 IMPROVEMENT -PHASE II (CIP Project 341118) - Authorize final payment. 63. ACCEPT COMPLETED WORK OF LANZO R 89-374 210 - CONSTRUCTION, INC. FOR FAIRLAWN SOUTH 4/13/89 SANITARY SEWER IMPROVEMENT (CIP Project 351173) - Authorize final payment. 64. ACCEPT COMPLETED WORK OF DOUGLAS N. R 89-375 j 211 - HIGGINS, INC. FOR FLAGAMI SANITARY 4/13/89 SEWER IMPROVEMENT. (CIP Project 351173) - Authorize final payment. 65. CO -DESIGNATE N.E. 64TH STREET BETWEEN R 89-376 211-212 -: AND BISCAYNE BAY AS 4/13/89 - BISCAYNE BOULEVARD "AMERICAN LEGION .WAY" AND NE 7TH AVENUE BETWEEN HE 64 STREET AND LEGION PARK AS "LEGION PARK DRIVE". 66. CO -DESIGNATE 2ND AVENUE EAST BETWEEN SE R 89-377 212-213 3RD STREET AND INTERSTATE I-395 AS 4/13/89 "ABEL HOLTZ BOULEVARD". 67. AUTHORIZE ISSUANCE OF RFPs FOR UNIFIED R 89-378 213-214 DEVELOPMENT PROJECT FOR DEVELOPMENT OF 4/13/89 _ MIXED RESIDENTIAL/COMMERCIAL USES OF CITY BLOCK NO. 43 NORTH - located in Southeast Overtowa/Park West ;. _ Redevelopment Area - Select CPA firm and appoint selection committee (Camillus House). 68. INSTRUCT CITY MANAGER TO PROCEED M 89-379 214-219; }v' WITH BIDDING PROCESS AND ISSUANCE 4/13/89 OF RFP's FOR OPERATION, MANAGEMENT AND PROMOTION OF- OVERTOWN SHOPPING CENTER (OVERTOWN ADVISORY BOARD) (See label 70). 69. SCHEDULE PUBLIC HEARING IN CONNECTION M 89-380 219-220'. WITHPROPOSED CO -DESIGNATION OF 17TH 4/13/89 ® STREET FROM NW 27TH AVENUE TO 37TH AVENUE AS "FATHER FELIX VARELA STREET". 70. (Continued Discussion): RFPs for DISCUSSION 220-226 OPERATION, MANAGEMENT AND PROMOTION OF 4/13/89 OVERTOWN SHOPPING CENTER (See label 68). 71. AUTHORIZE CITY MANAGER TO SELECT THE R 89-381 226-227 . 1989 BUDWEISER UNLIMITED HYDROPLANE. 4/13/89 r REGATTA EVENT AS CITY'S FIRST OF FOUR 1989 SPECIAL EVENTS TO BE HELD AT ?" MARINE STADIUM - Release all concession rights to the City -Manager 'to choosef. . ,. three. remaining 1989 special event; _. Oates upon which rights will be: e released. 4 j y�ix 1 "f'Sax 3 h y}Yc F n f �2. A) UNSAFE STRUCTURES - Instruct Manager M 89-382 227-229 to have area of NW 56th Street to NW R 89-383 - SBth Street and NW 6th Place and 6th 4/13/89 Court inspected for unsafe structures - Enforce existing procedures and fines. — B) SEND GOOD WISHES FOR A SPEEDY - j 'RECOVERY TO LESLIE PANTIN, SR. 73. DISCUSSION: PERSONAL APPEARANCE BY DISCUSSION 229-234 —� REPRESENTATIVES OF CONCERNED BLACK 4/13/89 CITIZENS OF GREATER MIAMI. 74. DISCUSS AND TEMPORARILY DEFER REQUEST DISCUSSION 234 —i BY MR. C.W. HAINES, JR. TO APPROVE 4/13/89 CREATION OF SPECIAL TAXING DISTRICT FOR _ GREATER BELLE MEADE AREA TO PROVIDE 25- _- - HOUR GUARD SERVICE (See label 76). 4i -'' 75. "MIAMI MAGIC" FUND-RAISING EVENT: M 89-384 235-237 - Grant request from representatives of R 89-385 = Junior League of Miami for (a) waiver 4/13/89 of rent for use of Bayfront Park _ i. Amphitheater, (b) Beer/wine permit, and -, (c) Street closures in connection with - the 1989 event. 76. (Continued Discussion): DISCUSS AND DISCUSSION 238-245 DEFER PROPOSED CREATION OF SPECIAL 4/13/89 — TAXING DISTRICT FOR GREATER BELLE MEADE — AREA TO PROVIDE 24-HOUR GUARD SERVICE —i (See label 74). 77. CONTINUE TO APRIL 27TH MEETING M 89-386 246 i CONSIDERATION OF PROPOSED SECOND 4/13/89 a READING'ORDINANCE TO EXPAND BOUNDARIES OF DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT. v b" v s � Tj it x a a L `µx � ��- MINUTES OF REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF MIAMI, FLORIDA * a e A On the 13th day of April, 1989, the City Commission of Miami, Florida, met at its regular meeting place in the City Hall, 3500 Pan American Drive, Miami, Florida in regular session. The meeting was called to order at 9:05 a.m. by Mayor Xavier Suarez with the following members of the Commission found to be present: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Commissioner Rosario Kennedy Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins Mayor Xavier L. Suarez ABSENT: Vice Mayor Victor De Yurre ALSO PRESENT: Cesar Odio, City Manager Jorge L. Fernandez, City Attorney Matty Hirai, City Clerk Walter J. Foeman, Assistant City Clerk An invocation was delivered by Mayor Suarez who then led those present — in a pledge of allegiance to the flag. 1. .. PLAQUES,, PRESENTATIONS AND SPECIAL ITEMS. c_ f -------------------- ---------------- - --- -- - 1. Proclamation: to Vanessa Perez, a gifted Miamian piano player since age 7, proclaiming April 13, 1989 as.Vanessa Perez Day. 2. Commendation: to Mike Gordon, organizer and promoter for over 30.years of inboard.. regattas to our City. 4 _ :r -----------------------------------------7 ---- --------;. r; r NOTE"FOR THE RECORD: Vice Mayor De Yurre entered the meeting at 9:09 A.M. hl ------- ----------------------------------------------. 3. Certificate of Appreciations -to Dr. Greer for his efforts in connection ` with the Camillus House clinic. 4. Proclamations: Several individuals who have contributed to enlarging j. efforts of University of Miami School of Medicine who have dedicated much fi* time and effort towards needy in our City and their fund raising efforts', toward educating future physicians and scientists. "4 S. Presentations: of. 48' awards recognizing, contributions .: and effort,: of ,. i#�dviduals and, .institutions to the City of Miami, Refugee and Hoa:ele .': Assistance Initiative. (Nicaraguan Task Force).to $ P F h s A ¢ F— Appreciationj. to Barbara Rdasr,, Student Soa 6. Certification .of }is. -,.worker o the -Year. fffXzr* Presentation: to ,Ma' or .Comm saianers t $na er i st Y► Y E Y x —z` ��F�fiF private .,group and' Sndivduals of _:pls�us bY; t#�,.Nica+sglr',ax reognlzip g their , of forts on , be#calf :.of tote Nicaragan rsfµgees, " k i { r v Ilb -......---err------r----r----------------------------- r �— NOTE FOR THE RECORD The City Commission approved Minutes of Special City Co�onaiasion meetings of December 27, 1988, and February 18, 1089, Regular meeting of January 12, 1989 and Planning & Zoning meeting of January 26, 1989. -_-----r----------------- ---------------y- "---------------..--------------- ---- ----------- NOTE FOR THE RECORD: VICE MAYOR DS yup.RE REQUESTS THAT DIANE KRASKA, JEFF HEPBURN, SONIA CERVERA, HERB BAILEY AND JANET GAVARRETA. BE PRESENT AT 3:00 P.M. FOR DISCUSSION ON THE HOMELESS. a, (See label #26) ---------------------------------------------------- ,F t a 2. DISCUSSION ON DEMOLITION OF UNSAFE STRUCTURES. Mayor Suarez: OK, item 1, Commissioner Dawkins. ' Mr. Dawkins: Mr. Mayor, there is no need to discuss the item. I was told by the Manager that the building will be demolished at 12:00 noon. - (A Mayor Suarez: Beautiful. ;Y _ Mr. Plummer: Can I ask a question quickly, Mr. Manager? How are you going about selecting:these houses for demolition? The houses for demolition.... Mr. Odio: They have to go through a process including.;. the. ..Code ^` enforcement.:.. Mr. Plummer: All right, has any process been done for two of the best crack houses in Coconut Grove on the corner of Margaret and Williams? X; Mr. Odio: `That is the address? ' —_ Mr. Plummer: I can't tell you the address, but it is right on the corner, 1 there are two little; dumps and they are used continuously, all day. and a1.1 r. fa' night for crack cocaine. t ® Mrs. Kennedy: I believe so, Mr. Plummer, I'd like to call on... I think Frank Castaneda has the -information... _ a s= Mr. Dawkins: Mr. City Attorney... n E. Mrs. Kennedy: ... but I believe that they are on the list. fl _ Mr. Dawkins:. Mr. City Attorney. 17 t*E� Mr. Fernandez: Yes, air. N Mr. Dawkins: Will you explain to us and the public the procedure.for.the demolition, of a. building?'" Mr. Fernandez:;The,:department ." .makes, preparos "a file. phi ck l s . showing r tk�axr fiJf the house;;ia abandoned, is in ill repair and it's in need of "demolition;` brought to the Dade County, Unsafe Structure Board. The board's grahts rtte�K order, issues an order that "the place. should.:be hin> a�► #t11tAq {� r,w� a� days:. it'a' not, .;brought up :;to . par, -.to. cassI'n 0so If;- the; City proceeds, to., procure ;the services;;of a. �lemal.�tion °oAmgia�y �►hio� th�4 �, r comes in, ;:pulls` the;, perit and .the building .ip demolished. Mr. Dawkins: It. I were to identify a building- today, just " Qi:s 7ur4{,,�° head profassionally, and. today "is April "19th, . what .is is sailo+l }##X� ' building could possibly be demolished? ��?4=�'S�`hr'?u` _ 1 � wtt4 % " ,' is � E .. ,: 3.:, `� :.1,-�e `t �1{rt-•:.'"� 4a X 1 t� I � F Mr. Fernandet: Perhaps the Department is in a better position to speak to that. My impression is that the Dade County Unsafe Structure Soard is now s:oving much faster than they did a few months ago. I would say that within a period of three months on the outside, that building could be ready to be demolished. Mrs. Kennedy: If I could address that, Commissioner Dawkins. We also have the building inspector who has the power to go and declare a building unsafe. We then post a sign saying that anybody doing illegal drugs inside the building will be arrested, we notify the owner, give him or her 30 days. If we do not hear from them back, then we can go ahead and demolish the building, I think that the average of three months is quite accurate. Mr. Plummer: Well, let me give you a better one. These two structures that I am speaking of have been that way for almost two years. It's a constant headache to the Police Department, having to go in there and run these people out and for the life of me, I can't understand why something hasn't been done. Mr. Dawkins Anybody over there from the Administration, Mr. Manager? Mrs. Kennedy: Hector Lima. Mr. Dawkins: Is it a true fact that Dade County has set a limit as to the number of applicants we can put in for a month? - Mr. Hector Lima: Yes, sir. - Mr. Dawkins: What is that number? Mr. Lima: Presently it is five. Mr. Dawkins: And previously what was it? Mr. Lima: We were limited to 15. Mr. Dawkins: So they have cut it back by one-third and you have approximately i how many homes, no, I'm not going to say homes... how many buildings, or structures do you have listed now, off the top of your head, that we consider unsafe? �. 400 Mr. Lima: We have at least properties. Mr. Dawkins: Four hundred, OK. See, I -am saying this so that when the public calls my house, you got something legitimate, not from -me. So we've:got 400. The County allows us to bring five per month. - Mr. Lima: That's correct. k Mr. Dawkins: See? And then that takes 30 days for each of those, so that's every 30 days, we go before with five. Mr. Lima: If they meet every month. 4 Mr. Dawkins: If they meet, not'they may not meet every month, huh? Mr. Lima: That's correct. Mrs: Kennedy: Right. Mr. Plummer: That's only 80 months! Mrs. Kennedy: Sometimes they don't meet every month because they don't have _ quorum, that is correct. ^=t Mr. Dawkins: So what I am trying to get understood, so that when^p¢op,le'ca�;l us, or when you see us behind, pushing a building down, we've gone:.through Ll}e - whole . legal ramification and we just :finally got .one down. It --is ,not teat •yob v " �- can call i me . and , tel,l me than: they are °smoking' crack, in, this house sand-T it `is unsafe and I can- get 1t: pushed - down tomorrowl:, - 3IR _ x , t S10;y ` Mrs. Kennedy: It is also interesting to note Commissioner, that when we started this effort in June, we had 238 crack houses. The list has now gone to over 400, because people now are aware of it. They are calling the office and they are reporting more crack houses. Mr. Rodrigues: If I may add something to this, as you know, we were trying to work with the Dade County Unsafe Structure Board and they agreed to increase the amount to 15 about threw or four months ago. We received notification from them very recently that now they will be willing to take only five houses per month, which is what Mr. Lima mentioned before; they also mentioned that they would be willing to take an additional meeting per month if we were to foot the bill for the whole thing as to the type of expenditures they have to go through and paying for clerical services and so on. This is the proposal they have at this point on the table. In the meantime, as you know, they passed a law about three or four months ago by which houses which are less than a certain amount of money, we give them a notification and in 30 days we can go ahead, if we don't hear from them, or they don't appeal it, we can go ahead and order initial demolishment. But in the meantime, these latest decisions from them of reducing the amount of structures that they will take to five per month is really going to limit us as to how far we can go in the future. Mr. Dawkins: OK, all I need to know, I want it made clear, and if it is possible, I need to know how, for an individual to call my office and tell me that there is an unsafe structure at "xxx" "x" street, cannot push it down tomorrow? OK, see and somewhere along the lines I want the Administration to get out to the public the procedure and the time element it takes to do this. Mr. Lima: Sir, we will be having a seminar May 29th and all of that will be detailed at the time. Mr. Dawkins: How many people in my neighborhood are going to come: to a seminar? Mr. Lima: We will be sending out invitations to all the associations, air. Mr. Dawkins: See, you are not answering my question. I didn't ask you who you are going to notify. Mr. Rodriguez: We don't expect many from... you know, sometimes the:people that will come... Mr. Dawkins OK, I'll tell you what. Mr. Manager, .if necessary, prepare flyers for me, have my staff deliver to churches, stores and other businesses ' in my area, explaining the procedure for the demolition of unsafe structures. ! Thank you. Mayor Suarez: When you do that, would you please copy me, because what I will do I will include it in that flyer that we like to get to all the citizens of Miami as part of the State of The City. Mr. De Yurre: This issue came up last year and as far back as February of last year I dealt with Mr. Lima, we talked about an unsafe structures board for the City because the County procedure would not suffice for our needs. This Commission did not. feel' that that was appropriate at the time and now we are going from bad to worse. Mr. Rodriguez: You are correct, Vice Mayor. At that time we had meetings with Dade County and they agreed to increase the numbers by.50 percent. They, j went from ten to fifteen cases per month. Since then though, in the -.last -, month, they have told us now that they cannot take care of,.that many cases and that they will take care of only five cases per month, as compared to the ten - that we had before. Mr. De Yurre: But even 15 will not do it if we have 400 waiting", to demolished: Y t� 3 . Mr. Rodriguez: I know. They -did helps us in process ` by thelaw,;that, theyh } r { Pissed that allows us to go in'structures":which are. less than: a so that we can go ahead and issue a ,demolition warning and' give to try' to: respond to it and if ` they don It relate to that= that.ara t" demolish `it, but at the same time 2 have to say, the .aumbsx, that th�p `� .<r,� aL� V17 Tart }a y cH, =Tp iFtJ }F # Ri Ys 4 Y �qA� � �{i'y •`yy� ��t.� i ,.yyI,� 1, � { 'M t � f{'i¢ - T � ` &= q H _ t dealing With is much less than before and the only solution that they are , offering to us at this point is that they will be able to handle more cages by hiving an extra meeting just for the City of Miami, but that we will have to foot the bill and the estimate that we have at this point is about close to $300,000 per month. Mr, PluMmer: but what's wrong with that, since the property owner is got a lien put against the property? I mean, you are charging it to the property owner, Mayor Suarag: We are not always able to recover. :- 1- Mr. Rodriguez: But we take... Mr. Plummer: You put a lien on the property, they can't sell that property without us being paid. Mayor Suarez: There is a problem with the procedure and a practical problem _ and that is... I mean we do that of course, and we try to do that in every case, but as you know... •t Mr. De Yurre: •It's a cash flow thing. :a Mr. Rodriguez: It takes a while. Mayor Suarez: ... in many cases, the property is not worth the lien and in other cases it takes more in total legal expenditures and plus the cost of the lien and demolition, than we can ever recover, but I know we are doing that "- and the foreclosure process is quite expensive, so... Mr. Dawkins: Two questions, Mr. Rodriguez. You said, outside 90 days. From somebody, you, or the Legal Department, does the owner have the right of j appeal? Mr. Rodriguez: The owner has a right to appeal first... Mrs. Kennedy: Yes. .` — ' Mr. Dawkins: All right and if he appeals, where does his appeal, :go .to the — bottom:of the .400,.or does, it come to the top of the 400? You see; you are telling me that they will only hear .five per month. ' : We:hear, the ;complaint: They, decide that the structure is unsafe.: The owner appeals.:, -Where, -,does ' now, you give him, what 90 days for the appeal, or what:.have:=you?- :'Where-. does the appeal go, to the bottom, behind the 400 or to the top of the 400? L4 Mr. Lima: No, Commissioner, it goes prior to any :other one,.;because",that _ _{ appeal was because the property was in very, very bad condition. Mr. Dawkins: All right, :then it is included in the f ive. when : you come back for the appeal?. 3_ I Mr. Lima: It will be included in the next available month,' because.,it.;has:to;; be submitted.30 days ahead. Mr. Dawkins: So if we got two appeals, instead of getting five new permits to destroy homes, we only got three plus the two appeals. r Mr. Lima: That's correct. ' — Mr.: DAwkina: ;.Now, my.: second and . I'll be finished. Who: determines h .question.. which house -gets cited as most unsafe and then decides which one :to ,take„to f =, — the Unsafe Board? { Mr.. Lima I ' gueow I decide that.. Mr. Dawkins: Who decides that and what is the criteria for doing -� X, Lima: The criteria of an unsafe ; property:or,, or; structure, is�, ot�► ls:d� p ppok �' rxz South F] orida Buildiag Coda and that is ghat we base our oritsrax on,+RK?� '� —� ,�� : aaimpler, Mrs, Kennedy: But, make it Hector, if the btiXidi�Ag thatz ix .isr,in;a vary -bad shape, then he has the power R4,go ahpa A �l WN n yip tom. z uk r: r ff- Lt. It the owner appeals, then it has to go before the Unsafe Structures — Board. Mr. Dawkins: Hold it now, wait a minute. Mr. City Attorney.:. - Mr. Fernandes: Yes, air. Mr. Dawkinsr Commissioner Kennedy says if somebody calls my house this morning and tells me that next door to them is an unsafe structure and someone from the City of Miami Building Department goes out and they too agree that this is an unsafe structure, that we have the right to push it down immediately without going to the Unsafe Structure Board. Mr. Fernandez: Depends on the valuation. If it is determined that the price of the house, the value of the house is below a certain level, and I don't have that information with me right now, then we can avail ourselves. of a j different process. We can give notice to the owner and we can... Mr. Dawkins: I'll ask my question again, air, OK? I'm going to ask it slowly. Commissioner Kennedy said that we have the right, once a building has been identified to the determine if it meets, quote, unquote, a level of unsafety that we deem unhealthy for the neighborhood and that we can Immediately go out and push it down, yes, or no, air? — Mr. Fernandez: No. Mrs. Kennedy: No, the way you are saying it, that is not what I said. ?- Mr. Dawkins: Now, how do we then sir, expedite getting it pushed down, .Mr. � City Attorney? Mr. Fernandez: Now, if you are talking about a building, I would presume that -i the building is valued over $5,000, then the way to do that would.be for the inspector to prepare a file and that file would be taken in its right course to the Unsafe Structures Board. 4. i Mr. Dawkins: But everything has to go to the Unsafe Structures Board? Mr. Fernandez; No, not everything. If the value of the building is determined to be less than $5,000, or the amount of money needed to repair iw u`- below a. certain amount, then what we do is give the owner notice .that we intend to demolish the building within 30 days. If he doesn't fix it, then the building.. would be: demolished. But the. question _of. :valuation is.crucial��to this determination. Mr. Dawkins: All right, we say it is not worth $5,000, the owner says. it is-. vZ,; worth $6,000. Now, where are you? s,a Mr. Fernandez: In a legal quagmire. We have to be very sure of. the value -of r'Y it before we take any action. Mr. Dawkins: But if I go out there this afternoon and find six structures that can easily be determined that... now, we talking about the structure and r' the land worth $5,000, or are you talking about just the structure?.- because r . any lot anywhere in the City of Miami costs more than $5,000. y- , AT Mr. .Fernandez: It's a structure that we are talking about.,. Mr. Dawkins: OK, so if it is a structure and we; determine that the vaius,-is;f less than $5,000, we can notify the owner and in 30 days if he ,.doesn't repair,: we push it down? 1r,, _ ,,ems Mr. PeraaAdez: Could you restate your question again Mr. Aawkind is 'is` — or. , . you are trying to address the issue of valuation. I agree with you; that; the value of land,. a ,t Mr, Dawkins: No, sir, I beg to differ. I plan : to, -address puahimg thus► 71 OK? Now, ,when I'. said puah:them down; the 'AdministratI' broughtpp pp t trF Of .svaluatian, OK? :neV r said 'anything ,about the cash: valuatlAa. ;j �h6 . von up as the determining factor for being able • to push them down •Qr AQtit uti `nn- r _ Mr. Fernandez: Correct t & i �. : :. 'i ., '': . :• .i ' =Y,> . ��'.�4,4 .,. �.#Ydtrfl�i kte,�.. i�.;7,j,�fi1tF - - c rt v I! wwl Nr. Dawkinst OK. Mr. rornandes: Our advice to the Administration would be that when valuation is in question, or the fixing of the building, it's a viable alternative, that we do not proceed with the automatic process that has been afforded to us but that ire go through the Unsafe Structures Board so that we avoid potential litigation. Mr. Dawkins: See now, we are right back where we started from unnecessarily: Can we push a house down, or can't we? Mr. Fernandes: No, you cannot without due process to the owner. Mrs. Kennedys Yes, and I want to let the record reflect that you know, you said something which I did noo ahead t may. There in a from one day legal to the ess next whicht next and demolish follow and we cannot just g house. Mr. Plummers You see, the whole bottom line is just exactly what is happening here at this Commission is the bureaucracy is killing us. We get not straight answers, we're not getting the damn thing done and these coke people are i Now, I haven't heard a having a ball and knowing that we, our hands are tied. solution to come about for less than 80 months of 400 structures, not one —� solutionl Mr. Odio: Commissioner, let me... — Mr. Plummer: So are we supposed to just say, OK, the hell with it, we'll walk away from it? I think this Commission is looking -for answers .how to avoid-80 months of waiting to get rid of these structures. Mr. Odio: Let me clarify something. We have the demolished, I believe the j last number I saw was 340 houses, huh? = Mr. Plummer: That's fine, what about the 400 that are still.being-used? . Mr. Odio: No, but we saw where we had the list down, and the list keeps growing as we get reports on more and more. Mrs. Kennedy: Right. ,j- '' .7 Mr. Plummer: What. are the answers? The answers are not this legal mumbo-- Jumbo, that if there is no answer, that you can't do this and you can't do that. Damn it, give us an answer that we want ,to hear. Get rid of them) - 7A Mrs. Kennedy: OK. Mr. De Yurre: Well, let me make a couple of suggestions.: One we -can deal L with right now and which is item 99 and we can talk about it atcthis:moment,, ; and that is that one of the things that prolongs this process is.:having.-,to- go out time and time again on a per structure basis to get a bid for demolition. It is my understanding that that, by the time... Mr. Lima or Sergio, how long does it take to get a bid back on a demolition? ^d` Mr. Rodriguez: It depends. Sometimes it can take one, two months, or maybe 1 longer,you know, it depends on the case. But we have ,by the way, already prepared that it is being reviewed now by,GSA to bring back to you An, the next Commission meeting, a master bid ordinance that will be brought to `you,:w Mr. De Yurre: Well thank you for telling me now...7. Mr. Rodriguez: '' OK,': so we have that:' M !� Mr: De Yurre: when I've been saying that for months, ;�L u Mr. Plummer: Oh,. I'lltell you how to do it, better. I'll tellit much batter, OK? and I'm not the professional., Do'it .in-houaq. XOu �e the approvel . today, you go tear it. down 'tomorrow, Mr:: Da •Yurre: -Well,' M.�. ',,, .' r i yr ?i b� rLn`""_'��r�7ai� it7�t1�,• _ 44 S 1E i, Gi isznX � '. N. Mr. piun"or: You got the trucks, all you got to buy is a big bulldozer and go in there with a front lift. Mr. bawkinst You don't have to buy one, you can rent one, J.L. 'i- Mr. Plumer: That'It in houses you don't have to go through a bidding s procedure. Do it novel Mrs. Kennedy: i think it is important to know, also that this community knows and this Commission knows that we are demolishing one house every day. ,. f Mr. Dawkins: No, we're not. Mrs. Kennedy: 'Yes, we are. Mr., Dawkins: What house did you demolish yesterday? i Mr. Plummer: I can tell you. Mrs: Kennedy: I can tell you, I... 1 Mr. Plummer: No, I can tell you. No, I saw it yesterday, they tore one down i in the Grove. Mr. Dawkins: Where? Mrs. Kennedy: We demolish one a... Mr. Plummer: On the corner of Charles and Plaza. I stood there as they _brought out. 47 bicycles, 23 TV sets, all of this, it was you know, I'm nvt saying that it was property that didn't belong to the owner, but the policemen had to -get ->their hands cooled off when they brought it all outl Mrs. Kennedy: They were warm. Mr. plummers, And=that's why the tenants who were in there with a bulldozer at the front door, didn't want to leave They asked the police to leave and come _ back -'An -six. hours and, the consider' moving' out, but yesterday ;they did fact tear . it down. Now all the bicycles are in the streets right now, this mornin All of:` the TV -sets- are , out in the'- street, ;everything �is .,out on the B street. _ 4 z Mr. De Yurre: Is"it still 'Out? r t, Mr. Plummer: Excuse me?. Well, other residents took advantage of the flea market that was not being conducted. It's a hell of a :joke for this } community. Hell of.a jokef Mr. Dawkins: Let me may this. One will be demolished on 39th Street that we s went through the process on. This afternoon, Mr: Manager, bring ;me, so that J. can publicize; the-list'of-every house that mill be demolished every.day..the rest of this month.,' Bring it back this` afternoon. Mr. De Yurre: They don't have it. Mr.. Plummer: How the hell is that going to... Mrs. Kennedy:- Well-* 'I'don't know if you have it now. Mi.'Lima: Sir,'what.we do is we, through GSA... w , >Mr. -Dawkins: '• No wait a minute, 'now wait. You see, „like ,7,L. says, mead a Wimple answer, Now: guys tell . me you 'are .-pushing ='a iwuse dorm svtlr#. ti day. ' xf 'you are .pushing it down every . day, you know ahsrp you arsoshi3�p i G , down4 Mr. Williamss. Commissioner Dawkins 5 x . Mr.. Hawkins: So , nOw ju$t.. , na, Mr;. MAnager or Mr Msgox,►A'�►s} ba�,01� }. long' onough. I defer this until this afternoon: Co�pmiiasp�phett' �� both have an iLe�a:Qming °,up this af>++arnoQn, Mind lst'#R tisl►i`�r' up than, An4 bring me .back this • afOrnc�oD thA list of pg0r ? D going to demolish aver y day this m9�th, �I4? t; r, i e; And if you don't have it, then we need to know that. And also... Mr. Plummert And if you don't have a demolition expert, use Xavier's kids, they can demolish anything within a day. Mr. Dawkina: And bring the address of every one you did this month and last _ month. Bring address of every house you demolished, everyone you .the demolished from April i until April 12th and every one you are going to do _ from April 14th through April 31. Mayor Suarez: Or 30th. ---- ----------- ��------- 3. CONSENT AGENDA. �� -M ------------ ------------- -------------------------------------------- Mayor Suarez: All right, we have Consent Agenda comprised of items 2 through 29. If the Commissioners want to handle any of these individually or if anyone from the audience would like any of these to be handled separately, please so advise the Chair at this point. Let the record reflect that no one i has stepped forward. Commissioner Dawkins pulls item 8. - Mr. Dawkins: Pull 8. Mr. Plummer: I pull 6. Mr. Dawkins: Eight and 27. Those are two I'd like to go over. Mayor.Suarez: OK. Vice Mayor. - Mr. De Yurre: Twelve. Mr. Plummets Did you hear, I pulled 67. ,. - Mayor Suarez: :'-Yes :-I got you`. OK, with 'the exceptions of items 612 and a 27, the Consent,''Agenda'is comprised of, items 2 through 29 and I entertain r motion as to those. Mr. Plummer: So :moved. sY Mr. Dawkins: Second. e Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded: Call•the roll on the Consent Agenda:' 7 THEREUPON, ON MOTION DULY MADE BY COMMISSIONER PLUMMER AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER DAWKINS, THE FOLLOWING ITEMS COMPRISING THE CONSENT AGENDA WERE APPROVED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE: AYES: CR_W1issioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Commissioner Rosario Kennedy Commissioner'Miller 3. Dawkins Vice Mayor Victor De Yurre Mayor %avier L. Suarez ` +h t NOES: None. ' �yk ABSENT: None. J y µ`y'M1LtS��'Xjjj C. c 1Fy� F i Y + i 1 Jf 4 irtt f _ — .l .4tei"`_l. ...L :H l4 t(_itr �.. f W-:Y-1��{i' uv�i'iW ^. :R`.�.•1 i ��rtaS• - Cra � - C ! i 3.1 APPROVE DONATION OF 18 IMPOUNDED BICYCLES TO STATE OF FLORIDA MIAMI� r` NORTH CORRECTIONAL INSTITUTION. RESOLUTION No. 89-310 A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE DONATION OF 18 IMPOUNDED BICYCLES TO THE STATE OF FLORIDA MIAMI-NORTH CORRECTIONAL INSTITUTION TO BE SUPPLIED TO DESERVING INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE DEMONSTRATED GOOD BEHAVIOR AND ARE ON THE WORK RELEASE PROGRAM AND IN DESPERATE - NEED OF INEXPENSIVE TRANSPORTATION TO THEIR JOBS. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.) 3.2 AUTHORIZE PURCHASE OF THREE COUNTER -SNIPER FIREARM SYSTEMS FOR POLICE DEPT. RESOLUTION No. 89-311 A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE PURCHASE OF THREE COUNTER -SNIPER FIREARM SYSTEMS AT AN APPROXIMATE COST OF $4,100, FUNDING TO BE PROVIDED FROM THE LAW ENFORCEMENT TRUST FUND, UPON SUCH COSTS HAVING BEEN - APPROVED BY THE CHIEF OF POLICE. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and - on file in the Office of the City Clerk.) 3.3 AUTHORIZE PURCHASE OF 10 PAIRS OF BINOCULARS AND 14 SURVEILLANCE KITS FOR POLICE DEPT. �{ RESOLUTION NO. 89-312 x -�i ARESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE PURCHASE OF TEN PAIRS ` OF BINOCULARS AND FOURTEEN SURVEILLANCE KITS AT AN APPROXIMATE COST OF $5,500, FUNDING TO BE PROVIDED 6 FROM -THE LAW ENFORCEMENT TRUST FUND, UPON SUCH COSTS HAVING BEEN APPROVED BY THE CHIEF OF POLICE. £{' G — _3 (Here follows body of resolution, omitted' here and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.) 3.4 ACCEPT BID OF TECHNICAL" CONSTRUCTION CORPORATION - for furnishing pressure cleaning and waterproofing of lower press -boxes at Orange Bowl for GSA. �t RESOLUTION NO. 89-313 ' A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BID OF TECHNICAL CONSTRUCTION CORPORATION FOR THE FURNISHING ;OF PRESSURE. CLEANING AND WATERPROOFING OF LOWER PRESS BOXES AT THE ORANGE BOWL FOR THE GENERAL SERVICES ADMINISTRATION AT A TOTAL PROPOSED COST OF xh $7,100.001::.ALLOCATING FUNDS THEREFOR FROM THEz1988- 89 OPERATING BUDGET 'ACCOUNT CODE NO: 420401=67Q;. 'j >! AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO :INSTRUCT THE;; CHIEF + PROCUREMENT OFFICER TO ISSUE A PURCHASE ORDER FOR f THIS SERVICE. r (Here follow body of..resolution, omitted here end y z 4i u � an file in the Office of"' -the . City Clerk.) .1 iF,j_N.i� YP cs J 3.5 ACCEPT BID OF LAWMAN'S AND SHOOTERS, INC. - for furnishing 400 cases of flares for Police Department, RESOLUTION No. 89-314 A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BID OF LAWMAN'S & SHOOTERS, INC. FOR THE FURNISHING OF 400 CASES OF FLARES FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF POLICE AT A TOTAL — PROPOSED COST OF $11,680.00; ALLOCATING FUNDS — THEREFOR FROM THE 1988-89 OPERATING BUDGET ACCOUNT CODE NO. 290201-719; AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO INSTRUCT THE CHIEF PROCUREMENT OFFICER TO ISSUE A PURCHASE ORDER FOR THIS EQUIPMENT. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.) 3.6 ACCEPT BID OF MANTELL ENGINEERING CONTRACTORS, INC. - for "Local Drainage Project 8-59 (Project No. 352267). RESOLUTION NO. 89-315 A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BID OF MANTELL ENGINEERING CONTRACTORS, INC., IN THE PROPOSED AMOUNT OF $537,669.69, FOR "LOCAL DRAINAGE PROJECT E-59", WITH MONIES THEREFOR ALLOCATED FROM THE 1989 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS ORDINANCE NO. 10521, PROJECT NO. 352267, IN THE AMOUNT OF $537,669.69 TO COVER THE CONTRACT COST; AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT WITH SAID FIRM. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and = on file in the Office of the City Clerk.) 3.7 ACCEPT EXTENSION OF EXISTING CONTRACT WITH G.E.>-METCALF & CO., INC. - �' for furnishing of red clay for annual ballfield refurbishing at City —` parks. } RESOLUTION.NO. 89-316 -i _ - A'RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE EXTENSION OF, THE EXISTING - CONTRACT THRU SEPTEMBER 11,`1989 FOR THE 'FURNISHING, h j OF RED CLAY FOR ANNUAL BALLFIELD`-REFURBISHING AT CITY PARKS FROM G.E. METCALF It CO., INC. APPROVED - -j ORIGINALLY ON RESOLUTION NO. 86-688, BID -NO. :85-86 ' 94 : AT A TOTAL PROPOSED COST OF $20,000.00; ALLOCATING FUNDS THEREFOR FROM THE 1988-89 OPERATING �? BUDGET ACCOUNT CODE. NO. 580302-712; AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO INSTRUCT THE CHIEF PROCUREMENT 1 OFFICER TO ISSUE A PURCHASE ORDER FOR THIS SERVICE.. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.) 3.8 AUTHORIZE PURCHASE OF ONE DODGE B-350 1-TON VAN. FROM: REGENCY DODGE -` —( under existing State of Florida: Contract No: 070-300-403 = to be used as - a surveillance van by Police Department Crack.Task Force. RESOLUTION NO. 89-317 A. RESOLUTION 'AUTHORIZING THE, , PURCHASE.' OF, .ONE _ DODGE B-350 1-TON ;VAN AVAILABLE, .UNDER ' AN. EXISTING.!. STATE OF FLORIDA CONTRACT NO. 070-300-403 FROM IXE REGENCY DODGE TO:! BE :.USED: ,AS A •.SURVEILLANCE VAN `W THE . POLICE; DEPARTMENT CRACK, .:TASK ='FORCE BY . THE DEPARTMENT OF GENERAL SERVICES :ADMINISTRATION.'AT A.:x`��"' TOTAL PROPOSED COST OF $13,488.0.01 ALLOCATING'FUNDS THEREFOR FROM THE 1988-89 POLICE DEPARTMENT .CRACK; s ' GRANT TASK FORCE ACCOUNT NO. 290448-040 AUTiiQR ZING "$ x` - -'x 7 } ?rc. �Cy�k x 3 #^h. t`3 `t .i. k%i w .. ;33,v-.6 .. • .... .. , . _ _ _ r] THE CITY MANAGER TO INSTRUCT THE CHIEF PROCUREMENT OFFICER TO ISSUE A PURCHASE ORDER FOR THIS VEHICLE. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.) 3.9 AUTHORIZE EXECUTION OF A GRANT/LOAN AGREEMENT WITH THE BLACK ARCHIVES FOUNDATION, INC. - for restoration/reconstruction of Dorsey House - Allocate funds from Community Development Block Grant Funds. RESOLUTION No. 89-318 A RESOLUTION, WITH ATTACHMENT, AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTION OF A GRANT/LOAN AGREEMENT IN SUBSTANTIALLY THE FORM ATTACHED, WITH THE BLACK ARCHIVES FOUNDATION, INC. IN THE AMOUNT OF $66,000 FOR THE - RESTORATION/RECONSTRUCTION OF THE HISTORIC DORSEY HOUSE, LOCATED AT 250 NORTHWEST 9TH STREET, MIAMI, FLORIDA, WITH FUNDS THEREFOR BEING ALLOCATED FROM COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT FUNDS. - (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.) 3.10 RECOGNIZE TAX-EXEMPT STATUS CLAIMED BY GRAN LOGIA DE CUBA, A MASONIC TEMPLE - Authorize Finance Director to reimburse monies claimed by said organization. RESOLUTION NO. 89-319 A RESOLUTION RECOGNIZING THE TAX-EXEMPT STATUS CLAIMED BY GRAN LOGIA DE CUBA, A MASONIC TEMPLE, IN SUPPORT OF ITS REQUEST 'FOR RETURN OF MONIES TO BE PAID BY IT BECAUSE OF ITS FAILURE TO TIMELY FILE APPLICATION FOR TAX-EXEMPT STATUS OF PROPERTY LOCATED WITHIN THE CITY OF MIAMI; AUTHORIZING AND ` INSTRUCTING THE FINANCE DIRECTOR TO REIMBURSE SAID —ORGANIZATION THE AMOUNT OF $4, 794.93 SAID SUM BEING CONFIRMED AS THE AMOUNT TO BE RECEIVED BY THE CITYF> AS A RESULT OF THE ORGANIZATION'S NONCOMPLIANCE WITH THE FILING DEADLINE; FURTHER DESIGNATING PROPERTY TAXES ACCOUNTS IN THE GENERAL FUND AND .GENERAL OBLIGATION DEBT SERVICE FUND FOR SUCH REIMBURSEMENT. - (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.) 3.11 URGE METROPOLITAN DADE COUNTY TO INSTALL STATIONARY THREE-WAY AND FOUR- WAY STOP SIGNS - at intersections of SW 20th and 21st Streets at SW 33rd Avenue and SW 18th, 20th and 21st Streets at Coral Gate Drive. RESOLUTION NO. 89-320' ` t; 0 A RESOLUTION URGING METROPOLITAN DADE COUNTY TO TAKE STEPS WHICH WILL RESULT IN THE INSTALLATION OF ¢' STATIONARY THREE WAY AND FOUR WAY STOP SIGNS AT THE - INTERSECTIONS OF SW 20TH AND 21ST STREETS AT SW_33RD n AVENUE. `IAND AT SW ISTH, 20TH AND 21ST STREETS ATE CORAL GATE DRIVE IN THE CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA—= ' FURTHER DIRECTING THE CITY OF MIAMI, YLORIDA � FURTHER DIRECTING. THE CITY CLERK TO TRANSMIT -'A COPY OF THIS RESOLUTION TO THE HEREIN NAMED OFFICIALS. Y�ri;4 (Here follows body of resolution, "hereaid .omitted ta£yf on file in the Office -of the City Clerk.) i !L 4 t ry 1 i a i GREEN FEES AT MELREESE GOLF COURSE AND CITY OF MIAMI COUNTRY CLUB 3.12 MANS for participants in Greater Miami women's Golf AT MIAMI SPRINGS Association Tournaments. RESOLUTION NO. 89-321 { A ABSOLUTION WAIVING THE GREEN FEES FOR PARTICIPANTS IN THE GREATER MIAMI WOMEN'S GOLF ASSOCIATION TOURNAMENTS TO BE HELD MAY 16, 1989 AT THE MELREESE GOLF COURSE AND OCTOBER 24, 1989 AT THE CITY OF MIAMI COUNTRY CLUB AT MIAMI SPRINGS= SUBJECT TO AND CONTINGENT UPON SUCH CONDITIONS AS MAY BE PRESCRIBED BY THE CITY OF MIAMI, INCLUDING THE REQUIREMENTS FOR MANDATORY ELECTRIC GOLF CART RENTAL AND THE PURCHASE OF TOURNAMENT AWARDS FROM THE RESPECTIVE GOLF COURSE PRO SHOPS. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.) EARING FOR OBJECTIONS TO 3.13 DIRECT CITY CLERK TO PUBLISH NOTICE OF PUBLC D CONSTRUCTION BY OBIELiCONSTRUCTIONCORPORATION ACCEPTANCE OF COMPLETE I OF MANOR HIGHWAY IMPROVEMENT PHASE III (CIP 341090). RESOLUTION NO. 89-322 A RESOLUTION DIRECTING THE CITY CLERK TO PUBLISH A {- NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING FOR OBJECTIONS TO THE ACCEPTANCE BY THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE COMPLETED CONSTRUCTION BY ROB -EL CONSTRUCTION CORPORATION, OF — { MANOR HIGHWAY IMPROVEMENT PHASE III C.I.P. PROJECT NO. 341090. }_ z (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and; on file in the Office of the City Clerk.) 3.14 ACCEPT COMPLETED WORK.OF ROB -EL CONSTRUCTION - for Latin Quarter Paving rojec i Pt -Phase III (CIP 341086) - Authorize final payment.. } t RESOLUTION NO. 89-323 tit A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE COMPLETED WORK OF ROB -EL CONSTRUCTION CORPORATION, AT A• TOTAL; COST OF T >? $114,724.60 FOR LATIN QUARTER'.PAVING PROJECTPHASE r — III, C.I.P. PROJECT NO. 341086' AND AUTHORIZING";A F- �_ i FINAL PAYMENT OF $26,334,12, SUBJECT 'TO CERTAIN r CONDITIONS. A (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.):_ zK 3.15 ACCEPT COMPLETED WORK OF"MCO CONSTRUCTION INC. - for South District" Police Substation Building Demolition (CIP 312008) - Authorize final l°4 payment}_ j RESOLUTION NO. 89-324 y3 _ A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE COMPLETED WORK OF MC0` CONSTRUCTION, INC. AT-A"TOTAL,COST OF $47,80Q:00 FOR w SEMOLITION OUTH DISTRICT POLICE SUBSTATION.BUILDING:D; hr' CIP PROJECT" NO. 312008 AND AUTHORIZING A "FINAL.` PAYMENT OF'44,780.00. q F� 1 (Here followsbody of resolution, .omitted here ands 'n ofile 1n:the Office of the',City. Clerk". -- a • � 9 4! , Pf,r.,.r _' .p. ''',_y r<.ji .*,�}•r �.0 �t� �3_,..t3,, �'.°xf.z�i`fiiv- 'X• t� f'h . i C7 3,16 AUTHORIZE INCREASE OF SCOPE OF RESOLUTIONS 88-1056 AND 88-1058 - to include installation and maintenance of temporary barricades across certain streets in Mimi Design District. RESOLUTION NO. 89-325 A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING AN INCREASE IN THE SCOPE OF COMMISSION RESOLUTION NO. 88-1056 AND COMMISSION RESOLUTION NO. 68-1058 TO INCLUDE THE INSTALLATION AND MAINTENANCE OF TEMPORARY BARRICADES ACROSS THOSE STREETS WITHIN THE MIAMI DESIGN DISTRICT AS LISTED IN COMMISSION RESOLUTION NO. 89-271 (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.) 3.17 APPROVE STREET CLOSURES FOR MIAMI BUD LIGHT U.S. TRIATHLON - to be conducted by Cat Sports, Inc. RESOLUTION NO. 89-326 A' RESOLUTION CONCERNING MIAMI BUD LIGHT U.S. — TRIATHLON TO BE CONDUCTED BY CAT SPORTS, INC. ON MAY 21, 1989, PROVIDING FOR THE CLOSURE OF DESIGNATED STREETS TO THROUGH VEHICULAR TRAFFIC SUBJECT TO THE — ISSUANCE OF PERMITS BY THE DEPARTMENTS OF POLICE AND - FIRE, RESCUE AND INSPECTION SERVICE; FURTHER CONDITIONED UPON THE REQUIREMENT. THAT THE CITY WILL t. BE INSURED AGAINST ANY POTENTIAL LIABILITY AND UPON ORGANIZERS PAYING FOR ALL. NECESSARY COSTS OF CITY SERVICES. — (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file in the Office -of the City Clerk.) 3.18 APPROVE STREET CLOSURES FOR PROCESSION TO BE CONDUCTED BY RENOVACION CARISMATICA CATOLICA HISPANA. RESOLUTION NO. 89-327 A: RESOLUTION .:CONCERNING A PROCESSION••TO BE: CONDUCTED BY RENOVACION CARISMATICA.CATOLICA HISPANA Z ON MAY .201 1989 APPROVING THE USE OF DESIGNATED STREETS TO THROUGH VEHICULAR TRAFFIC; SUBJECT TO THE ISSUANCE OF PERMITS BY THE;,DEPARTMENTS OF POLICE AND FIRE, RESCUE AND INSPECTION SERVICES AND CONDITIONED UPON THE ORGANIZERS PAYING FOR THE NECESSARY COSTS o OF: CITY SERVICES ASSOCIATED- WITH_SAID EVENT AND ,THE S REQUIREMENT THAT THE CITY WILL BE INSURED AGAINST ' ANY POTENTIAL LIABILITY. (Here follows .body of resolution, omitted here and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.) G. r 3.19 APPROVE, STREET CLOSURES FOR :PARADE TO .BE CONDUCTED.BY CITY OF 'MIAMI COMMITTEE ON BEAUTIFICATION AND ENVIRONMENT. RESOLUTION N0.,89-328 cz A,RESOLUTION. CONCERNING. A. PARADE, TO BE CONDUCTED:BY _. THE, CITY OF, .MIAMI COMMITTEE OI�T'-BEAUTIFICATION AND ENVIRONMENT. ON MAY 5, 1989 'AUTHORIZING THE. CLOSURE rrF{}y OF DESIGNATED STREETS TO, THROUGH, 'VEHICULAR. TRAFFIC; SUBJECT TO THE ISSUANCE .OF ' PERMITS BY THE.. , DEPARTMENTS OF POLICE AND FIRE,,RESCUE :'AND,:n INSPECTION SERVICES, 4' (Here follows body, of 'resolution, omitted here ;and on file : in .the Off ice of the City Clerk,) . i 1 Ajr ' r � M � u 3.20 APPROVE STREET CLOSURES FOR MANUFACTURERS HANOVER CORPORATE CHALLENGE to be conducted by Greater Miami Running Association. -` RESOLUTION NO. 89-329 A RESOLUTION CONCERNING THE MANUFACTURERS HANOVER _ CORPORATE CHALLENGE TO BE CONDUCTED BY THE GREATER MIAMI RUNNING ASSOCIATION ON MAY 11, 1989, PROVIDING _ FOR THE CLOSURE OF DESIGNATED STREETS TO THROUGH VEHICULAR TRAFFIC SUBJECT TO THE ISSUANCE OF PERMITS - BY THE DEPARTMENTS OF POLICE AND FIRE, RESCUE AND INSPECTION SERVICES; FURTHER CONDITIONED UPON THE REQUIREMENT THAT THE CITY WILL BE INSURED AGAINST ANY POTENTIAL LIABILITY AND UPON ORGANIZERS PAYING FOR ALL NECESSARY COSTS OF CITY SERVICES. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.) - 3.21 APPROVE STREET CLOSURES FOR LIONS CLUB INTERNATIONAL CONVENTION PARADE - - to be conducted by International Association of Lions Club. RESOLUTION NO. 89-330 _ A RESOLUTION CONCERNING THE LIONS CLUB INTERNATIONAL CONVENTION PARADE TO BE CONDUCTED BY THE — INTERNATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF LIONS CLUBS ON JUKE 21, 1989, PROVIDING FOR THE CLOSURE OF DESIGNATED STREETS TO THROUGH VEHICULAR TRAFFIC SUBJECT TO THE _ ISSUANCE OF PERMITS BY THE DEPARTMENTS OF POLICE AND j - FIRE, RESCUE AND INSPECTION SERVICES; FURTHER' CONDITIONED UPON THE REQUIREMENT THAT THE CITY WILL BE INSURED AGAINST ANY POTENTIAL LIABILITY AND UPON j _ ORGANIZERS PAYING FOR ALL NECESSARY COSTS OF. CITY SERVICES. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and - } on file in the Office of the City Clerk.) 3.22 APPROVE STREET CLOSURESESTABLISHMENT OF PEDESTRIAN" MALL & AREA PROHIBITED TO RETAIL PEDDLERS FOR I1TH ANNUAL COCONUT GROVE BED "RACE - sponsored by Muscular Dystrophy Association.- RESOLUTION NO. 89-331 A RESOLUTION CONCERNING THE 11TH ANNUAL COCONUT: ® GROVE BED RACE, TO BE HELD MAY 21, 1989 SPONSORED. BY THE MUSCULAR DYSTROPHY' ASSOCIATION, CLOSING CERTAIN ■ STREETS TO THROUGH VEHICULAR TRAFFIC; ESTABLISHING A PEDESTRIAN MALL SUBJECT TO THE ISSUANCE OF PERMITS BY THE'DEPARTMENTS OF POLICE AND FIRE, RESCUE AND INSPECTION SERVICES, FURTHER ESTABLISHING AN AREA. r PROHIBITED TO RETAIL PEDDLERS DURING THE PERIOD OF_. THE EVENT; CONDITIONED UPON THE REQUIREMENT"_THAT THE CITY WILL BE INSURED AGAINST'ANY POTENTIAL'LIABILITY�'` AND UPON THE ORGANIZERS PAYING FOR, NECESSARY 2 ,ALL COSTS OF CITY SERVICES ASSOCIATED WITH SAID 91 ,EVENT. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file' in the Office of the City Cleric. ) � r ct 'c ..;s- s 1 .. IN i 4 •1a"yr.r' ? d 3.23 ACCEPT PLAT ENTITLED "LAVIGNE ESTATES . RESOLUTION NO. 69-332 A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE PLAT ENTITLED "LAVIGNE ESTATES", A SUBDIVISION IN THE CITY OF MIAMI; AND ACCEPTING THE DEDICATIONS SHOWN ON SAID PLAT; AND ACCEPTING THE COVENANT TO RUN WITH THE LAND i POSTPONING THE IMMEDIATE CONSTRUCTION OF CERTAIN IMPROVEMENTS UNTIL REQUIRED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS; AND AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER AND CITY CLERK TO EXECUTE THE PLAT AND PROVIDING FOR THE RECORDATION OF SAID PLAT IN THE PUBLIC RECORDS OF DADE COUNTY, FLORIDA. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.) 3.24 ACCEPT PLAT ENTITLED "ST. MICHAEL'S PARISH SUBDIVISION". RESOLUTION NO. 89-333 - A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE PLAT ENTITLED "ST. MICHAEL'S PARISH SUBDIVISION", A SUBDIVISION IN THE CITY OF MIAMI;, AND ACCEPTING THE DEDICATIONS SHOWN ON SAID PLAT; AND ACCEPTING THE COVENANT TO RUN WITH THE LAND POSTPONING THE IMMEDIATE CONSTRUCTION OF CERTAIN IMPROVEMENTS UNTIL REQUIRED BY THE '. DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS; AND AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER AND CITY CLERK TO EXECUTE THE PLAT AND PROVIDING FOR THE RECORDATION OF SAID PLAT IN THE PUBLIC RECORDS OF DADE COUNTY, FLORIDA. ;i (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and x; on file in the Office of the City Clerk.) -- ----- - -- -- -- �: 4. ACCEPT BID OF ARGOS INTERNATIONAL, INC. - for furnishing air filtraton system for Police Department (Project No. 312015).' Mayor Suarez: Item 6. Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor.- Mayor Suarez; Commissioner Plummer. t Mr. Plummer: Mr. Manager, the only question I have on 6, this is a police. s� activity of $8,300. Why is it coming from the Capital Improvements budget 'f rather than from. the Police Department? It is not for bricks and mortar. F They got a 475,000,000 budget. Why is this coming out of Capital Improvements rather than the police budget? - r Lt. Longueira: Sir, that's part of the building improvement and, it's capitalf, improvement and it'.s allowable at a Capital Improveme;its.budget.: Mr. .Plummer: But you see... all right then, I tell you what, I am going to " vote for it. Mr. Manager, I want, for the current year, no,for the last 12 x is months, I want_to:know how much .is gone into the Police .Department that .,.was; not in .their. $75,000,000 budget that was pulled out of other; budgets' such dei4 Capital Improvements. When, we :say ,a_ $75,000,000 budget, we are :kiddiAg ouraelves.''They'got a hell'of a lot. more than`$75,000,000. Lt. ,i,ongtteira: Bud when you include the capital ,projects, has .alaya bee;.the General Fund budget. h ,p Hr.lums�er:.. I'p► eayiag we need; to know what tha actual bVd$et ' ' l l` move item 6: � That a irhat x m saying. I ' Mayor Suareat So moved. Mr. Dawkinat Second. Mrs. Kennedy: Second. Mayor Suarez: Seconded. Call the roll. The following moved its adoptiont resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who RESOLUTION No. 89-334 A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BID OF ARGOS INTERNATIONAL, INC. FOR THE FURNISHING OF AN AIR FILTRATION SYSTEM FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF POLICE AT A TOTAL PROPOSED COST OF $8,350.001 ALLOCATING FUNDS THEREFOR FROM THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT NO. 312015 ACCOUNT CODE NO. 299401-8401 AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO INSTRUCT THE CHIEF PROCUREMENT OFFICER TO ISSUE A PURCHASE ORDER FOR THIS EQUIPMENT. _ (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Commissioner Dawkins, the resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote: AYES: lComissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.' Commissioner Rosario Kennedy Commissioner -Miller J. Dawkins Vice Mayor Victor De Yurre Mayor Xavier L. Suarez NOES:` None.: ABSENT::... : None COMMENTS MADE DURING ROLL CALL. Mr:Pluminer: It ought to come out of their budget. ----------- ---- - ---- - ------ ---- 5. ACCEPT BID OF MUSASHI INTERNATIONAL, INC. for furnishing office furniture for Police Department (Project No. 312007). : Mayor Suarez: Item 8. Commissioner Dawkins. ' ■ , Mr. Dawkins; Where will the $129,000 come from? Mr. Plummer: Capital Improvement again! INAUDIBLE'BACKGROUND,COMMENTS NOT ENTERED INTO.THE PUBLIC:RECORD.: Lt. Zongueira: Commissioner, from the financial report dated; that.I;haves the, most recent one in'February, 'it showed that there were sufficient fundsxto _.cover 'that .purchase for the .furniture of the one hundred; -twenty, ::what ris.:,it7 2 $129000. xzE } Mr. Dawkins: Sufficient funds . where,air? Within what budget?�r $ 10 Lt. Loitgueira`: In the north substation account, sir 7 r� -.� 'Mr, Dawkins: Now, °you' � say, there -is sufficient funds, yet `;time aftaiaw4 *4.1, after time' you came before this Cocamisaion telling us that YOU mu$t have maro r ^ «` ' money with which to finish the station. Is that a correct atatpipet#t? p r t$ Lt.'.LOnguelra: Y@S,'.*tiX'• �` y o r Qpr ¢e l rt$ h �s - ll I 4 4.�f�r4 ". E � s x �t y cbtry< t�i vrd�x� i p ijya _ Mr. Dawkins: Well, why Mould you come time and time again requesting additional funds and now you have a surplus of $212,000. Why was it necessary to tell me you couldn't do the station within the budgeted amount? Lt. Longueira: Commissioner, from the time that we've gone over this, there has been a lot of changes to the station. All I can tell you is that we get the financial report and this financial report reflects more money available to us. At the time I came to you during the budget hearings asking for additional funding, that is what I was being told by Public Works and those people that know more about construction than the Police Department. I deal with the Police Department end of it. OK, I came to you based on their recommendations. At this time there is enough money to make that purchase, that's all I can tell you. Mr. Dawkins: And when you came, you asked for how much money, based on the recommendations of Public Works? Lt. Longueira: I believe we were attempting to get $250,000 to cover both projects. You have to understand there are items cut out of that facility that haven't been put in there that should be put in there. I can tell you right now that the holding cell facilities are inadequate, they don't work, they don't meet State Code. Mr. Dawkins: OK, I've gotten four calls and I told them to call the Mayor, OK? The residents are complaining that the bullet proof glass that you have In hard to hear through and they have to stand out in the lobby and yell and scream. Is that a true statement, Joe? Lt. Longueira: The recently installed glass, yes, that is a problem and that's an item that has to be finished. It hasn't been finished. The glass was just put in a week ago. Mr. Dawkins: But wouldn't it tell you that if you can't hear through it, to put a PA system or one of those talk-throughs where you push a button and you talk to it and you can push a button and hear back? Mayor .Suarez: We, presume you are going to install one of those and it may. have been a good idea to install it simultaneous with the installation of the bullet. proofed -glass, or you didn't think.it would be so difficult to: hear - through it? . Lt. Longueira: ,No, we knew that was going to be difficult.. Mr. Plummer: They don't. know how to cut a check for Radio Shack for $39.00. Lt. Longueira: That's what we are trying to do, get it at a cost of $39.00 instead of $500. OK, I can go tell the contractor to do it and it is cost us a lot more money. If that's your desire, I can do that. Mayor Suarez: Remember, if worse comes to worse, you can always get it donated. I guess Commissioner Dawkins was here when we had the Fax machine delivered you know, that was donated by Rico Corporation. You know, some of these things can be resolved quickly. ;f 2 Mr. Dawkins: I'll bet you, if you go to Northwestern Senior High School in that area right now and go to electronics class, you could get somebody, to go to... even I'd go down there and buy it from Radio Shack and some of those kids will come out there and hook it up .and you spend less than $10. But': like J.L. said, we have got to go through the bureaucracy instead of getting job done. Now, after you spend the $129 000, you of $83 000 left. What do 'x ► Y P ► 6 ► you plan to do with that? U . Longueira: There are some additional items of furniture that still have to,! _ be purchased. r " L Mr. Dawkins: Why not take the money from that $03,000 and get that.:taik; through thing? 41, Lt. Longueira: I aka, Commissioner. We're going to do that, but right aow tba. vehicle Ibad was through the contractor. 1 did not want to give hint a'' ohatago,,, u� order to do that, it was going to cost us too much money. .we:are gQimg to' :-Y get that. That glass has only been one week. x �` r ' s MAY. Dawkins: And I've gotten 14 calls at my home since one week. Lt. Longueiras hell, I with you had called one, or had somebody call me sooner _ and I would have addressed it. Mr. Dawkins: You know what they are going to tell me when i tell them to call _ bout They didn't vote for you, they voted for us and that's why they giving us hell... Lt. Longueira: The item is going... which is what they are supposed to do. I am not supposed to Mr. Dawkins: ... tell them to call you. Z�. I �_ Lt. Longueira: It will be resolved. Mr. Dawkins: I'm supposed to try to resolve it, OK? 'j Lt. Longueira: It's going to. 4 _ Mr. Dawkins: Move 8. Mayor Suarez: Moved. Mr. Plummer: Well, let me make a suggestion. Mr. Manager, we got one of the ' finest communication departments in the City. There's Julio. I guarantee you }` before_ nightfall_ Julio can have you something in there that will work and then --R` you go about your business as usual, the bureaucracy and costing the taxpayers all the money but get Julio to put something, in there. _ Lt. Longueiras It,'s still. going to cost the Police Department, through the_ budget process, GSA charges us back. Now, if you can arrange to somehow... _ _ Mr. Plummer: But you can have it tonight rather than in two weeks., Lt.' Longueira: OK. n: Mayor Suarez: Somewhere along the line, we're going to stop doing precisely �g'' what you referred., to, _Lieutenant, and stop having a department..charge,,othe departments for doing the Citq's work and improving facilities of the otherti depart>nent I'm not sure what sense that makes.. I have no pro —.: Mr. Pluirner: Did you move eight? i Mr. Dawkins: Yos. _r aY Mayor Suarez: We had a motion. Do we have a`second? Mr. Plummer: I second.= Mayor Suarez: Call the roll on eight. �- tip - E WWj Z 5 `y — T The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Dawkins, who feoved its adoption: RESOLUTION No. 89-335 A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BID OF MUSASHI -- INTERNATIONAL, INC. FOR FURNISHING OFFICE FURNITURE FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF POLICE AT A TOTAL PROPOSED COST OF $129,120.00; ALLOCATING FUNDS THEREFOR FROM THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT NO.31200I ACCOUNT CODE NO. 299401-840; AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO INSTRUCT THE CHIEF PROCUREMENT OFFICER TO ISSUE A PURCHASE ORDER FOR THIS EQUIPMENT. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote: AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Commissioner Rosario Kennedy Commissioner Miller Dawkins Vice Mayor Victor De Yurre - Mayor Xavier L. Suarez NOES: None. ABSENT: None. 6. AUTHORIZE NEGOTIATION OF LEASE AGREEMENT WITH GROVECOMPO, INC. - for office space and microwave room on roof of building located at 2850 Tigertail Avenue. y Mayor Suarez: Item.12, Vice Mayor. " Mr. De Yurre: Yes, Mr. .Mayor. You know, we're talking about building. an administration building or leasing an administration building, doing all kinds of things and here we are tied to - a proposal that tie ourselves .to a. March,_ 31st, 1992. ,The thing is, why tie ourselves =how long does it. take.to, build a building? Or to lease one, or to lease one? s; Mr. Odio: The way we are going to, our plans, are, still .to build a new fi= administration building as instructed in the next to the other one. It would take a good 36 months. Mr. De Yurre: How long would it take to lease 150,000 square foot building? Mr. Odio: That's not the instructions I have from the Commission. Mr. De Yurre: Because the thing is... ti¢ Mr. ,Plummer: You can move into the Dupont tomorrow. r Mayor Suarez: A hundred and f if .... .P Mr._ Dawkins: No way.` Mayor,Suarez: A hundred and fifteen thousand;is.what.you.said,.right? Mr., De Xui re: OK, a hundred . and .fifteen, or whatever,: we used my �giat gip, i�� that,I think we're losing sight of what, our. goal, is which is ,.consolidatibp� k > Mrs: Kennedy: I tell you where you can move tomorrow, to 4400 Biscayne zr Yi Boulevard. Plutmner: What' a there r f, 2 QWs r z Mrs. Kennedy: The Key Pharmaceutical. _1 Mr. Plummer: The what? _ Mrs. Kennedy: Keys Pharmaceutical. Mr, De Yurre: So, you know, I think if we keep that in mind as to what our _ goal is which is consolidation, we can look at, you know, and quickly like just we've had two examples here of possible sites that Can be leased and we - -R can start moving into that building. — ( Mr. Carlos Smith: We are aware of that and that's why it's a 3 year lease. — 1 it's three Year lease - just like our other leases are three, have two... Mr. De Yurre: Carlos, if you're aware of that, you can move in in a year. #� Mayor Suarez: You might want to consider a two year lease, Mr. Smith. Mr. Smith: But the other leases have two to three years to go and that's why we've done them in this... Mr. De Yurre: What was that now? Mr. Smith: Other leases that we have throughout the City have two to three years to go and that's what we've tried to put them on... S 1 . Mayor Suarez: As we stagger them so that they end at the same time, you might want to consider a two year lease, I think the Vice Mayor's making a very good point. Have you considered a two year lease? Mr. De Yurre: You can't have options one year with two options, one year option? _ Mayor Suarez: We can have a new building in two years, Mr. Manager, we can — r also lease space within two years to consolidate offices so don't say that we - can't have it within two years. It's preposterous that we've taken this long _ to get where we area Have you considered a two year lease? — Mr. Ron Williams: Mr. Mayor, it was not a part... — Mayor Suarez:- A one and a half year lease? Mr. Williams: It was not a part of the original negotiations. However, we - hear, the Commission's concern. We, obviously can go back and take that into i consideration..: Mr. De Yurre: -Go back. Ideally one year lease with two one year options. Mayor Suarez: A one year lease, maybe? At our option, by the way. Mr. De Yurre: Sure. Mayor Suarez: Without penalty. Mr. De Yurre: OK? Mayor Suarezc OK, item 8 is deferred. Do you want to move to defer? Mr. Plummer: Well, excuse me, I hope that the Commission will keep in mind...' Mayor Suarez: Twelve rather. xt_ ;i Mr. Plummer:. .. on that lease that you know, 1 - , y , you've got an expense involved:_ r that s not written here. If you have to move all of that department out of that buildingand into another, so , you'd better make those numbers available ;. to the Commission of what the transfer and moving to a new buildngwould cost • - i Y'KS ii Mr. De Yurre: Well, that's going to happen whether you buy a lease 'or c�c whatever... ID l 1 Mr. Plummer: Nell, OK, just if you move to another building at the present time, they're there, they're operating... Mr. De Yurre: No, I'm not talking about the present time, I'm talking in -{ time, if we're trying to consolidate, then, you know, I think three years is a little bit too much when we have the option to lease and start consolidating right now. Mr. Williams: OR. Mr. Mayor, if I may understand the Commission direction, may we proceed with negotiating a one year lease with two one year options? OK, we can proceed with that. We do need, I believe... —� Mayor Suarez: Why don't you make that into the form of a motion to be . —� absolutely sure, Ron? -i Mr. De Yurre: I'll move that. Mayor Suarez: Mr. Vice Mayor. Mr. De Yurre: Moved. Mayor Suarez: Moved. Mr. Plummer: Second. - Mayor Suarez: Second. Call the roll. The following motion was introduced by Commissioner De Yurre, who moved Its adoptions MOTION NO. 89-336 _ A MOTION AUTHORIZING THE MANAGER TO PROCEED TO NEGOTIATE WITH GROVECOMPO, INC. A ONE YEAR LEASE AGREEMENT, WITH TWO ONE-YEAR OPTIONS IN CONNECTION WITH THE LEASING TO THE CITY OF 8,960 SQUARE FEET OF OFFICE SPACE ON THE SECOND FLOOR OF THE BUILDING _ LOCATED AT 2850 TIGERTAIL AVENUE AND THE MICROWAVE ROOM, ON THE ROOF. Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the motion was passed and adopted by the following vote: AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Commissioner Rosario Kennedy — Commissioner Miller Dawkins — Vice Mayor Victor De Yurre Mayor Xavier L. Suarez NOES: None. ABSENT: None. Mayor Suarez: Do you want any further clarification, Ron, to negotiate that? Mr. Williams: I think that clarifies it as far as we're concerned, Mr. Mayor. _ Mayor Suarez: OK. Mr. De Yurre: Thank you. Mayor Suarez: Item 12's disposed of. �hj r y } , 1 22 -- ------ ------ ---- - - 7. CONDITIONALLY ALLOCATE $30,000 FROM SOLID WASTE DEPARTMENT OPERATING BUDGET IN SUPPORT OF "KEEP DADE BEAUTIFUL PROJECT" (Later formalized by R49-349 - see label 23). --------------------------------------------------------------- -- Mayor Suarez: Item 27. Commissioner Dawkins. Mr. Dawkins: Mr. Mayor - I mean, Mr. Manager. Why are we taking the $30,000 to "Keep Miami Beautiful" from the Sanitation Department's budget? Mr. Odio: That was originally in their budget, and according to what Joe Ingraham explains to me, is that we save a lot of money in during this period, then we make it back up because during that period of time that they're doing this cleanup, the County releases us from any fees. So, we make that up through his own budget. Mr. Dawkins: Beg your pardon now? Make it up what, now, Mr.... Mr. Odio: During the period of cleanup the tonnage that we pick up and dump In the County dumps, we don't pay any fees, so we actually make that up very quickly by saving the tipping fees. Mr. Dawkins: OK, when we come to budget hearing, be sure you spell out that _ $30,000 was not spent picking up residents' garbage, so that when the residents start complaining, I can tell them that we took $30,000 of their garbage money and picked up trash. Mr. Odio: OK. Mr. Dawkins: The other thing is, I don't want a penny - me personally, I don't want a penny given to them until they submit a budget and when they ; submit a budget, I make a motion that we do not give them one penny till they submit a budget. Mr. Plummer: We don't give one penny what? - Mr. Dawkins: Till they submit a budget and when they submit the budget, then we give them the money. =r; Mr. Plummer: You mean this group here? Mr. Dawkins: Yes. Mr. Plummer: Second the motion. It was my understanding, just for the record, that last year they saved us $36,000 in dump fees and we got it for thirty thousand. I think that's a buy. But you're asking for a budget, I'll second that motion. Mr. Dawkins: That's all I want is a budget, let them tell me what they're doing with the money. Mayor Suarez: That's it, clarified in the budget. OK, we have a motion and a second, call the roll. The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Dawkins, who moved ? its adoption: MOTION NO. 89-337 _ A MOTION CONDITIONALLY AUTHORIZING ALLOCATION OF _ $30,000 FROM THE FY '89 SOLID WASTE DEPARTMENT _ OPERATING BUDGET IN SUPPORT OF THE "KEEP DADE BEAUTIFUL PROJECT," SUBJECT'TO SAID GROUP PRESENTING TO THE CITY COMMISSION A BUDGET FOR SAID PROGRAM. (SEE — LATER R 89-349 Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the motion was passed and adapted by the following vote: ✓4 23 t, AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Commissioner Rosario Kennedy Commissioner Miller Dawkins Vice Mayor Victor De Yurre Mayor Xavier L. Suarez NOES: None. ABSENT: None. — 8. REPORT BY CITIZENS' INDEPENDENT REVIEW PANEL. 1 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mayor Suarez: Item 30, Citizens Review Panel. Mr. Plummer: There's also another item on the afternoon agenda, I noticed. Mayor Suarez: I gather if they're not here at this point, that we'll take them up whatever time they're able to make it. Does the Manager or City Attorney have anything to report to us on the ongoing battles over subpoena — powers? Any resolution in court? i — Mr. Jorge Fernandez: Yes, the FOP (Fraternal Order of Police) has sued the i City because they feel that the City did not have the power to give the subpoena powers to the Independent Review Panel. That lawsuit is proceeding through the courts. We have made a motion to dismiss and we're waiting to = hear that.. Separate from that, the Independent Review Panel is seeking to - enforce the subpoenas that they have served on two individuals, on two police officers, that have refused to appear and they're seeking, through the judicial process, to enforce those two subpoenas. The gentleman is with the Independent Review Panel. Mayor Suarez: Do you want to add anything or bring us up-to-date on anything g _ from the panel? Mr. Leroy Colyer: Good morning. Most things you have already heard... ' Mr. Suarez: Give us your name and address, please. Mr. Colyer: Leroy Colyer, C-O-L-Y-E-R, 425 N.W. 6th Street, Miami. Father Barry asked me to appear before the Commission this morning because he is out of town right now. There is really not a lot that I'am going to say this morning, not because of - I don't want to, but because Father Barry asked that meetings before this committee just bring you up-to-date. As you heard at the testimony of the City Attorney... :p. Mayor Suarez: Can you bring the mike a little closer to you? You're a little taller than most of the people that make presentations. Mr. Colyer: The City Attorney brought you up-to-date on the status of the lawsuits and the actions we are taking against those individuals who have ignored the subpoenas and we will move forward on those. Since Father Barry last appeared before the committee - Commission, excuse me - we have held approximately meetings every ten days. We've held meetings approximately' y every ten days. The last meeting was the sixth of April, our next meeting will be the 19th. We have formulated a mission and objective statements which you should have since we gave it to a City representative, Miss Daniels was given to the Commissioners.... INAUDIBLE COMMENTS NOT ENTERED INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD. Mr. Colyer: With the budget thing. INAUDIBLE COMMENTS NOT ENTERED INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD. Mr. Colyer: Thank you. Mrs. Daniels doeshave it. Commissioners will receive it. And we have also formed a... ftx� a � 24 Aprl!,'' Mayor Suarez: is that... will we receive that this week? Is it going to be ready? _ Me. Hattie Danielas Yes, that'e completed and approved by the Panel. You perhaps may have it attached to a letter from Father Barry concerning the budget. But if not, I'll see that you get another copy. Mayor Suarez: I don't remember receiving it, maybe the other Commissioner, OK. Mr. Colyer: And we have formulated operating guidelines and procedures. Copies of those you will receive. It is... Mayor Suarez: And, excuse me, and Dr. Daniels would you make sure that the media gets copies of that statement so that they know what has been accomplished so far. Mr. Colyer: We are making progress. Those who have responded to subpoenas and testified before the Independent Review Panel, have been forthcoming but, as Father Barry stated, we're not going to rush into this thing. For this is a situation that does not need to be rushed right now. If we want to give you some substantive answers, we must proceed, not at a break neck speed but rather with some deliberate speed. Any questions? Mayor Suarez: Thank you and keep in mind again that we're more than happy to entertain any additional logistical requests from you and to resolve them as quickly as possible so we can continue the process as planned and as you've been trying very hard to do. Mr. Colyer: Thank you. Mayor Suarez: Thank you. - 9. A. DISCUSSION - ALFRED DUPONT BUILDING AS ADMINISTRATION BUILDING. i B. URGE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO ALLOCATE $70,000,000 TO CITY OF MIAMI TO ASSIST IN FIGHTING DRUGS. (COCAINE CAPITAL) C. DESIGNATE COMMISSIONER MILLER DAWKINS AS THE CITY'S A -- EMISSARY TO PERSONALLY DELIVER ABOVE CITED RESOLUTION TO — APPROPRIATE GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS. —� D. DIRECT ADMINISTRATION TO STUDY RECOMMENDATION FOR USE OF -_ —� BUILDING LOCATED AT 4400 BISCAYNE BOULEVARD AS NEW CITY ADMINISTRATION BUILDING - prepare financial analysis and recommendation for next Commission meeting. ----------------------------------------- -----------.��-�..M Mayor Suarez: Item 31 concerning the financial analysis of governmental center building construction. Boy, the Miami Herald certainly has provided themselves with interesting articles on this issue. I'm not sure that there was all that much to report but... i Mr. Plummer: What did they report? Mayor Suarez: An article yesterday implying that the Commission is changing its position, another article today... Mr. Dawkins: That Bob Traurig is a bad guy. Mayor Suarez: With a picture of someone from Mr. Traurig's law firm who looks much better than he does. Robert Traurig, Esq.: No question about that. Mayor Suarez: Former Miami City Attorney, Lucia Dougherty. f Mr. Dawkins: That was a lovely picture of Lucia, ' Mayor Suarez: Mr. Manager, what do we need to hear on this, If, anythlog '> before Traurig gets wound up? #a Q i t 25 74, Ail r Mr. Herb Bailey: I'm sorry, I... Mayor Suarez: Mr. Bailey, anybody? Mr. Bailey: I'm sorry, Mr. Mayor, I was having a conversation. I didn't hear your comment. Mayor Suarez: What, if anything, do we need to hear today on this? Mr. Bailey: Well, from us, Mr. Mayor and Commissioner, we don't have anything else to add and we have not seen any evidence that would cause us to change our original recommendation. I don't think at this time that you would like for us to get into a boxing match on the technical basis. I think we have provided you with three reports from the professional participation in this whole effort. We have Raymond James and you had the Blazejack Report and you have our recommendation and report. So I think at this time, so far as our input, we don't have anything else to add. If there are any specific questions that you would like for us to respond or ask, or come up with any information to support our recommendation, I'd be more than glad to respond. Mayor Suarez: The parameters are still the City needs to find a location, hopefully consolidated, so that we're not as scattered at least. At least we go in that direction. For approximately four hundred - I always get a kick out of this - 451 employees, let us round it out to let's say, 450. I can't imagine it would actually be 451 since we're never too sure how many employees we have, let alone how many we need space for. But it's 450 employees, about 115,000 square feet and we're currently spending a million and a half dollars, roughly, a year... Mr. Bailey: One, point... Mayor Suarez: ... to house those employees. Mr. Bailey: One point seven million today. Mayor Suarez: One, point seven. Mr. Bailey: And it has some escalation factors there. Mayor Suarez: The rest of the parameters is as I've stated them, Herb? Mr. Bailey: Yes, the policy issue that we're dealing with is as to whether or not we are going to continue to support our efforts in solidifying the government center and bring in all the government entities in a position whereby the citizens will have a much easier access to reach. It's next to the Metrorail station, there is a commitment from the City to the County on the land that was conveyed that we would put a City administration building on that land. You passed a motion authorizing us to proceed with the process of designing a building for that particular site and that is what we have started. Mayor Suarez: Commissioners have any questions? Mr. Odio: And, I guess... Mayor Suarez: Mr. Manager, Mr. Odio: ... and I guess - I really have looked, I went personally to the Dupont Building, I looked through the whole building and I have looked at what we've done at the government center site and I still think that the right site = _ for the future of the City of Miami is next to the other administration — building as designed originally. That building was designed to add the other tower next to it and I think that's the logical place to have the whole City — of Miami administration there in one place. That's what you'd consolidate all — services in one place. Mr. Plummer: At what cost? Mr. Odio: That is something that Herb... 26 y April 13. Jqo`= � 7 �5 t t!" y' Mr. Bailey: The cost as in our original report, Commissioner, is around $23 million Sollars total. However, as you know, when we began to estimate costs _= and that depends a lot on the design and the facilities needs which we are going through. It is our ballpark figure, based on known factors and information also presented in the report, based on what the cost of other buildings in that particular area has come to. We figure that that is a figure that we can deal with. Mr. Plummer: Does that include... Mr. Bailey: It may be up or down but that is the position that we've taken at this moment. Mr. Plummer: Does that include the parking structure? Mr. Bailey: We have indicated in our report an extra $2 million dollars that would perhaps be spent if we need to add on two more floors of parking to the existing garage. However, we have gotten an analysis from the Off -Street Parking that indicates that at the present time, the existing facilities are adequate and we probably wouldn't have to do that. That is an option. Mr. Plummer: Is that answer no? Mr. Bailey: The answer is no. Mr. Plummer: So 23 million without any parking? And it's a hundred and fifteen thousand square feet, is that correct? Mr. Bailey: It's a 150,000 square feet. Mr. Plummer: OK. Mrs. Kennedy: At approximately $10,000 per parking space. Mr. Bailey: Right. Mr. Plummer: Well, that's above the 23 million that he's quoting for 150,000 square feet. Is that correct? Mr. Bailey: That's correct. Mr. Plummer: OK. There's been no City project that has ever been done that didn't go 20 percent overrun on budget for whatever reason. f Mrs. Kennedy: Except the Miami Arena. Mr. Plummer: The Arena, well, that's because the City didn't do it. That was done by a Sports Authority. OK? Now, so what you're talking about... Mr. Odio: Commissioner... Mr. Plummer: ... excuse me. Mr. Odio: I negotiated that contract. Mr. Plummer: OK. What I'm saying to you is, and there's some strength that I've been using on the Dupont Building, it what, 250,000 square feet? Is that correct? Mr. Bailey? _- INAUDIBLE COMMENTS NOT ENTERED INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD. Mr. Plummer: The Dupont Building is 250,000 square feet? ,# Mr. Bailey: It's two hundred and it's approximately, yes. r Mr. Plummer: OK, and you're going to buy that for`15 million with 400 parking spaces. I shut up. I mean, you know... Mr. Odio: The parking is not adequate. Mr. Bailey: If you'd... ` 27 Mr. Plummer: Don't tell the the parking is inadequate, you're putting in 400 immediate spaces. Mr. Dawkins: Hold it, hold it... Mr. Odio: It's valet parking. Mr. Dawkins: OK, you know, you know - hold it... - Mr. Plummer: It is not valet parking... Mr. Odio: Yes it is, sir. Mr. Plummer: ... you know, let me tell you, Mr. Manager... Mr. Odio: I was there. - Mr. Plummer: ... the administration has been against the proposal since day = one... Mr. Dawkins: And Miller Dawkins. Mr. Plummer: ... I understand that, OK? And I respect that, OK? Mr. Dawkins: OK, all right, OK. Mr. Plummer: But what I'm saying to you is, that here you're going to get a 100,000 square feet more, 400 parking spaces for roughly $8 million dollars less. - Mr. Odio: But it's inadequate. Mr. Plummer: Now, don't continue... Mr. Dawkins: And a 60 year old building! Mr. Plummer: Don't tell me -that we've got a financial problem when, as far as - I'm concerned, you're blowing away $8 million dollars. _Mr. Bailey: Could I just make one correction? is Mr. Dawkins: OK, now, hold it, hold it! Mr. Plummer: You explain that one to the taxpayers, I'm not. Mr. Dawkins: OK, now, let me say something, OK? Mayor Suarez: Commissioner Dawkins. - i Mr. Dawkins: The first thing I want to say is, you've brought up the problem I of parking, OK? Northeast 2nd Street is one way going west. Northeast 2nd Avenue is one way going south. Mr. Plummer: Negative. - Mr. Dawkins: Ain't' no damn negative. Mr. Plummer: Northeast 2nd Avenue... -' Mr. Dawkins: I didn't cut you off, now, wait now. {; Mr. Plummer: Oh, OK." e yf Y.._ Mr. Dawkins: OK, wait now. I didn't cut you off now... J Mr. Plummer: I'll correct you when you're finished. Mr.. Dawkins: ... wait till I finish, OK?? Mr. Plummer: Yes! sir, 'I'm sorry. Mr. Dawkins: , 'Northeast lot -`2nd - is one" way going vest20 A p •x*ir,E 3 �Y'aZ7 ia4.'� .t'st. a,, z _ Mr. Plummer: No. Mr. Dawkins: Northeast 2nd Avenue is one way going south. Mr. Plummer: That's borrect. The other one's wrong. Mr. Dawkins: Now, you've got seven thirty reporting time, 1:30 to S O0 o'clock. You only got one access to this building and that's on First Street, Second Street, the traffic has to come from Biscayne Blvd. to Second Street or It has to come down 2nd Street, 2nd Avenue to 2nd Street. With one way into the building, you're going to have traffic backed up to Biscayne Boulevard one way and to the railroad track north on N.E. 2nd Street. Now, tell me how that's a good deal. That's number one, OK? Mr. Plummer: Can I answer that? Mr. Dawkins: Now, you tell - no, I want the administration. I don't want you to tell me. Mr. Plummer: OK. Mr. Dawkins: I want the administration to tell me. You're trying to sell the project, I'm trying to kill it. Mr. Plummer: No, no... Mr. Dawkins: Of course, you're going to try to tell me I'm wrong, OK? Mr. Plummer: No, no, no, no, I'm not trying to sell it, don't get me wrong. Mr. Dawkins: All right, now, OK, now listen to me now, OK? Mr. Plummer: How many employees there now? Mr. Dawkins: Now, you said that we will lease three hundred and forty spaces from new level garage number five. No where in this report does it spell out how much Off -Street Parking is going to charge you to lease these spaces. Now, you're not adding that into your overall cost, you're just telling me that you got a savings. But you're going to lease space now from Off -Street Parking free? You got to add that to the cost. And since we're talking about it, how old is the air conditioning that building? Anybody? When is the last time the air conditioning was repaired? When was it overhauled? How do you know it's going to carry the building? Mayor Suarez: Commissioner Dawkins, let me add, on the issue of parking, I visited - Bob and those of you who are interested in this - Commissioner Plummer I visited that building many times to visit people who have offices there. I've always known that somewhere there's parking, but I've never found it. And, maybe I just didn't look hard enough but people who are going to be visiting a City administration building, as Commissioner Dawkins has stated, should not be having to deal with one way streets all over the place and having to find a very difficult parking lot to... I know it's there somewhere, around the back somewhere, I've been told that. From my perspective, that's just one of many problems with that building. I think it would be a lot more, expensive than many other things we could do and actually, I'm not even ready at this point, to even vote for an administration building at all until I'm sure that we need to get into a whole new one. I mentioned`to the Manager this morning, let me just add this, that when we had people being housed I at Miami Stadium, they were under the stands. Areas were sort of carved out for people to sleep in and it seems like a lot of that space could be turned into offices and that they would look a lot better than some of the ones we have over at loth Street and 20th Avenue where the City, for some reason that .I t' still can't understand, is taking too long for people to be relocated - don't '? .laugh... Mr. Plummer; We'd have a Commission chamber with 10,000 seating. Mayor Suarez: ... if you.think that that would be bad working condition*, go check out where they're working at 10th Street and 20th Avenue where we're w saying that we need two and a half million dollars to' relocate supplies and equipment and people who are working out of a building that's falling apart;' r'R > 4.. 29 4 it's an old warehouse. So, I don't think that all of this has been handled =1 particularly well by the administration. I've been critical and I'll be `j critical again, so I'm not even ready to vote and I certainly would not vote, at this point, for the Dupont Building. In fact, one thing I'm sure about is that I have no interest whatsoever. You guys can save a lot of attorneys time in trying to convince the to vote for that. I wouldn't vote for that. I just don't think that's the location the City of Miami should be involved in. =i Mr. Plummer: Can I now respond to my colleague? Mr. Dawkins: Mr. Mayor, the second... no, I'm not finished. Mr. Plummer: Oh, OK. Mr. Dawkins: OK, all right. Secondly, you're going to buy a building and you don't own the first floor. If the people on the first floor decided not to let you up to your part of the building, which is above the first floor, what you going to do? That's number one, OK? Number two, how are you going to cut the air conditioning off for the first floor that you don't own to put it on the second floor that you own? And the whole building has air conditioning. How old are the elevators? Nobody has said that the elevators need to be renewed, we're going to go buy a building 50 years old and you may have to put elevators in next week. What are the life expectancy of the elevators? OK? Now, do you have, Mr. Bailey, a structural inspection? Certificate saying that the place is structurally sound? Mr. Bailey: We do not have one. Mr. Dawkins: Do you have a certificate that there's no asbestos in the building? Mr. Bailey: We do not have that assurance. Mr. Dawkins: Do you have a certificate that says that there's no radon gas in the building? Mr. Bailey: We do not have that assurance. Mr.. Dawkins: All these things should be in place. If they're not in place, you don't know what you're doing. Thank you. Go ahead... Mr. Plummer: Well, that's obvious that they don't want to do it or they don't know what they're doing because they haven't done it. The proof of the pudding is in the eating. Obviously, they took a stance from day one they were opposed to the building and they were not going to do anything in which to give a fair comparison. And let me answer just a few of your questions starting with the one that you don't know the geography in the area in which you work. Northeast 2nd Street is not one way going west, it's one way going east. First Street is going west. So that's for openers. Second of all, the fir... Mr. Dawkins: That's still the street you have to use to get in there, ° irregardless of what I did. Mr. Plummer: That's one of the streets that you can use to get in there. There are others, OK? Second of all, I've never had a problem parking there and I used to go there every Monday morning to Florida National Bank. Never _! once was I ever turned away. There are, from my understanding, over 600 employees there presently. The City's only talking about 451 and a half = employees. As far as the first floor, I understand that there was a proposal that... — Mayor Suarez: Who do you rate as the half? Go ahead, don't answer. —,i Mr. Plummer: The Manager's office. There is a proposal, I understand, from =i! someone that possibly the first floor would be sold for a retail situation. I would basically be totally opposed to that. I have no problem with.leasing the first floor and even leasing the additional 100,000 square feet for -income 'a A into this City. You're talking about eight hundred... $8 million dollars Is ' in expenditures with the potential income of 100,000 square feet, that could by =v rented out. Gentlemen I'm not going to , g g go any further... -f " 30 April i3; d44 e +''" , tc4V Mrs. Kennedy: What do you mean, gentlemen? Mr. De Yurre: J.L., that kills the whole... Mrs. Kennedy: Wait, Melt a second) Mr. De Yurre: Now, hold it, what you just... Mrs. Kennedy: What do you mean gentlemen? Mr. Plummert You're not even a genteel woman at this particular... Mrs. Kennedy: You are not a gentleman either, my friends Mr. De Yurret What you proposed just killed the whole project because my — understanding is that you can only lease based on the financial structure that was being proposed for this purchase. You can only lease five percent of the building or of the lease space to non governmental agencies. Downstairs, they got... Mr. Plummer: So, there's a... Mr. De Yurre: ... 15,000 square feet which is more than 5 percent of the 250,000, so you can't do that. 1 I Mr. Plummer: Excuse me, I didn't say that I would lease it to a private. We've got DDA that's paying, what? -a half a million dollars in rent? We got j enough damn governmental agencies to fill the building. Mr. De Yurre: Yes, but hold it, hold it, how many years do you have running — on your lease at La Epoca? He is... Mr. Plummer: It's a lease, but it's not the fact that they, control the . building. Mr. De Yurre: No, buy they control the 15,000 square feet downstairs. Mayor Suarez: When you answer... and when you answer, put your name in the — record, please. Mr. Plummer: But they don't control the building. - I` Mr. Tony Alonso: Tony Alonso, La Epoca Department Store. Mr. De Yurre: How many years do you have running on your lease? Mr. Alonso: I mean... Mr. De Yurre: Remaining. Mr. Alonso: About five years. Mr. De Yurre: Five years. Mr. Plummer: And, excuse me, may I ask, what are you paying a year? Ballpark figures. - -off Mr. Alonso: I couldn't tell you right now, right the bat. I... s — Mr. Plummer: Give me a guesstimate. Mrs. Kennedy: See, he doesn't want to tell. No. ln` — Mayor Suarez: He may not want to tell. ... .. , Mr. Plummer: OK, all right. -_ Mr. Alonso: I can't think of it right now. �{ Mayor Suarez: You're not required to, you know. I Mr. Plummer: All right, excuse me, how many square.feet? I 31 fiVI 4 0??. yq s 71 Mr. Alonso: It's... I don't know. Mr. Plummer: How many square feet do you occupy? Mr. Alonso: We have about 15,000 square feet but we... - S Mr. Plummer: Fifteen? Mr. Alonso: ... yes, we've been there for 25 years. You don't want to, kick us out, do you? Mr. Plummer: Fifteen - well, we know because we got on the agenda to rent space there for you at how much a square foot? - Mr. Jorge Fernandez: At $15.00. Mrs. Kennedy: Fifteen dollars. Mr. Fernandez: Fourteen, fourteen... Mr. Plummer: Fifteen times 15, it's easy, OK? It's income. You got a hundred thousand square feet that you're not going to use according to the _ administration, that you could lease out to other governmental agencies. You've got your lease for the next five years and I'm sure you'd love to renew it. OK? Mr. Alonso: I am very concerned if you're saying that you're going to give it to governmental agencies. Mr. Plummer: No, we got 5 percent other than and you would... Mr. De Yurre: Yes, but he has more than 5 percent of the building. Mr. Alonso: Right, I... Mr. De Yurre: He has more than 5 percent so that kills the whole concept. Mr. Alonso: My store has been there for 25 years, I'd like to be there for the next a hundred and twenty-five years. li 1` Mr. Plummer: Well... !� Mr. De Yurre: And you'd like to be there too with the store the next hundred I' and twenty-five.... Mr. Alonso: And my store was founded a hundred years ago in Havana and we'd like to be there for another hundred years. Mr. Dawkins: Well, I'm going to try to keep you there. Mr. Alonso: I would very much favor the proposal, you know, where we would be - allowed to stay, whatever the numbers are. Mr. Dawkins: Well, you have my vote to stay there. Mr. Plummer: Just for the record, just that one least alone is about a F 0 quarter of a million dollars. About a quarter of a million, but, hey, this. City doesn't have financial problems. You can go blow $8 million dollars, go 1` ahead. You all explain it to the taxpayers, not me. - Mr. Bailey: May I just make one... vita Mayor Suarez: I don't want to go into the details of it, but let me Just, s, state for the record that I don't believe, by any means, that what :we.woq10 do a would cost $8 million dollars more than acquiring, refurbishin and udin u, Bg „ excuse me - not to mention providing parking space at. at the Dupont Building, 'II.G Just want to put that in the record.. I think what.. whatever, wedo ia� g9i; •ta ;;' �' cost a lot less than: that. Now, you can say it's ` going to,`cost .$8 i lion >� e . dollars more,and that's fine and we disagree, but I Just want to, put oat the record. 32 +rl,� t F L Y 3�ti4v1��,r�: I .e2,,v iy'YI Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, the only numbers I'm using is that Herb has put on =f the record, $23 million dollars without parking, this structure if fifteen. _ That's $8 million dollars in anybody's book. Yes, there's repair that has to be done to the building. There's maintenance, there's no question. But I still go back to the fact that I think it is one of the most gorgeous and historic buildings in this community. And you couldn't have... Mayor Suares: And, by the way, that's one point that we agree on and, again, to the attorneys and so on that, you know, if they want the City's cooperation In trying to acquire or refurbish or bring some other uses, including, conceivably, other governmental uses like even DDA or whatever, we'd certainly be interested in cooperating and I see... Mr. Plummers Mr. Mayor, my final remark is, is that obviously it must be a pretty good building, the City Attorney has been there and wants to continue to be there. I'm sure if it was a bad building, the City Attorney would not ask, on today's agenda, for a renewal of his lease. Mr. De Yurre: Which City - yes... Mr. Dawkins: Which City Attorney are you talking about? Mr. Plummer: This City Attorney. Mr. Fernandez: We are in AmeriFirst Building. Mr. Plummer: I stand corrected. Mr. Dawkins: See, that's another one that blows it. Mr. De Yurre: The other one wanted to be there but she represents the owners, so no wonder she wants to be there. No problem there. Mr. Bailey: May I just say for the record, Commissioners, that - and I understand that sometime we get a little emotional about these discussions but in our position as professionals, and I just want to say this for the staff, if we.had thought and if our research had indicated that this would have been the best deal for the City, we would have recommended it. We are working currently under instructions from the Commission and from the Manager. You have already authorized us and instructed .us to go out and get designs, for j the new building and we have done that and have qualified eleven firms. • . We also have two firms that are protesting the disqualification of their firms. —, We started out working under specific instructions to do a phase II administration building on the existing site. And even after we had to analyze the possibility of getting the Dupont Building, if you look at all of the factors and we have looked at many and our files are quite extensive, we cannot, in all honesty, to this Commission, recommend the Dupont Building. Now, a decision you will make and we will abide by whatever decision you 'make, but we had no biases at all. Mayor Suarez: OK, Commissioners, anything further? If not, we'll go right on to the next item. All due respect for counselor. Mr. Traurig: Mr. Mayor, could I ask you to summarize where we are though,in this process? At first, I had the impression you were. asking the. City Manager... Mayor Suarez: You don't want us to do that. = a Mr. Traurig: Pardon me? Mayor Suarez: You don't want us to summarize where we are on this. I think, - Bob if you want a summary, unless I hear wrong, there's four eo le - I,do 't r- Y Y, B, P p n s .: know exactly about Commissioner Kennedy - there's at least three of, us t'it}a�t — are not interested. in buying this building. Now, .maybe somewhete,along •the line, if we had a clear idea that we were going.to build another building.and ` that it was going to cost more than this, we might consider it. But,.;"as.of k now, I'm not sure that we want to build a whole new building and, ,if, so that it would cost more than this at all. �Y pI Mr. Traurig: Would it be in the City's best interest to have a blue ribbon - , panel headed by .the City Manager to analyze these things objectively and F` 33 .4kj,- y''Sir 6�?T7 A" report back to you? I understand that you have had reports from Mr. Bailey and others but it may very well be that a more thorough analysis of the various alternatives would be beneficial. Mr. De Yurre: Let me just state for the record and Bob, my position, and I'll state it right now so that it's clear, I'm opposed to building our own building. I think we should go into either the City puts up the land and somebody builds a building and we lease it from them on a lease back situation or we just plain rent the space that we need wherever it will do the community the best. For example, we're talking about building a performing arts center and from my conversations, if the City committed to rent space in the office tower there, that would make that project go. Overtown is somewhere else where this building would be something positive for the community. We need the space, we need to consolidate and what we can do extra also is where can we go that will maximize the benefit to this community that it will help a particular area or a particular project that will benefit our City of Miami and Greater Miami in general? That's what I'm looking for and to tell you the truth, just the concept of one lane parking is horrendous and, you know, I just - I wouldn't be able to park there. Can you imagine trying to get out and everybodys coming in at the same time? Mr. Dawkins: OK, Mr. Mayor... Mr. Traurig: May I have the opportunity to address these things, Mr. Mayor? Mr. Dawkins: Well.... Mrs. Kennedy: And the fact also that the partitions are fixed and cannot be movable. Perhaps you'd like to address that either. Mr. Dawkins: Mr. Mayor... Mayor Suarez: Commissioner Dawkins. Mr. Dawkins: Blue ribbon committee, the one study did by Mr. Gary and those, I will state equivocally now, I will not cast a vote to buy the Dupont Building, I don't care how many studies you do, I don't care how many recommendations come in and as you said, that's two votes for not... well, it's over. Now, if they want to do some more - and you have said that you're - not for buying, I think, the Dupont Building, that's three votes. Now, I don't think we need to waste - not waste - I don't think we need to bring this up any more knowing that we got three votes against the Dupont Building, that's just my... Mr. Plummer: And Mr. Mayor, I couldn't agree more. I still have my feelings, _- I respect my colleagues' feelings and I don't think that we should waste any more time. They have made it very clear, Bob, that they're not buying the Dupont Building. That's it, let's move on. Mr. Traurig: I respect what you have just said and what Commissioner Dawkins has just said, but if you would afford me the - just three minutes to .give you some brief responses so that perhaps you can consider them, you know, at your leisure, I would appreciate it. Mrs. Kennedy: Before you do that, let me just answer the Mayor's question as to where I stand. I've always said that I think we should build our own building on our own land. Once we buy a building, we have to take it off the tax rolls. Again, it's an economic venture, you have to look at it as a real estate deal and as a realtor that's the way that I've been trained. Mr. Traurig: Commissioner, you're right about that, but these studies done by the City's financial analysts and consultants already took that into f consideration. And in addition to that, there were questions about the physical improvements and this gentleman has just made some �of� those.. improvements and would testify as to the condition of these systems: = aut we've alreadyallocated a million hundred and fifty-nine � thousand for ,capital - improvements and 568 thousand for code improvements so..,. and '2:4 million for. changes in the building to accommodate the City so we're talking about...=.-�• Mrs. Kennedy: At what cost? At $5.00 a square foot? Mr. Traurig: Pardon me? � ar 34 April l '9K Ftz= U � K S Mrs. Kennedy: At $5.00 a square foot, I think that's really under... Mr. Traurig: No, it... I can give you the specific coat per square foot. I'm just saying to you that these things have been taken into consideration. And — let me just summarize for you in those three minutes what I really think ought to be considered by each Commissioner. There are arguments which have been and can be fairly made against the proposal. One is that the City doesn't need any new building and if so, the City would continue to pay a million and a half dollars or more for rent rather than to acquire a first class facility with the same number of dollars which won't require any capital outlay on behalf of the City and which will be repaid out of the income that would have — been - out of the funds that would have been paid for rent to third party landlords. Number two, that the City doesn't need that much space. It doesn't cost the City a penny for the excess space and if it's rented, it will be income to the City. Number three, that it's in the wrong location. If you're saying to these Hagler Street merchants, that Flagler Street and N.E. 2nd Avenue is the wrong location, it's a message which they don't really want to hear because they have worked very hard to revitalize the core of Miami and this will have a very positive effect upon that. Another question came up. Do we have a duty to Overtown? Yes, we do have a duty to Overtown but we don't fulfill our community responsibility by putting this government building _ in an area which isn't Overtown. The area which is the government center is not Overtown and if our vision of Overtown is clear, we shouldn't expand the downtown into Overtown, we should be creating a neighborhood. That the most valid criticism of government's negative impact on Overtown was that I-95 bisected it and changed the character of the neighborhood. If we expand the ove t t i t 0 t d g rumen cen er n o ver own, we estroy the neighborhood, we tear out most of the other area between 5th Street and 8th Street. So, I'm saying to you - that the arguments that have been made all can be made validly but there are answers to each argument. And I do think that as Commission Plummer has said, when you compare apples with apples and the benefits to the City from the standpoint of cost, rather than to spend a million and a half or more on third party landlord rents, that money could be utilized for a better, more cohesive - facility that will coordinate the City's departments. And we urge you to reconsider and perhaps to have further review by other people to be headed by the Manager. Thank you. Mayor Suarez: Thank you but... Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor. Mayor Suarez: Yes? Commissioner Plummer. Mr. Plummer: Not on this subject. I assume this is - in my industry we know _ as a dead item. I'd like to bring up a subject right now to this Commission. It irks me with no end, Mr. Manager, that the press take great pride in continuously reminding the world that Miami is the cocaine capital of the world. Everytime you hear news, it's always dateline Miami, whether it's within a hundred miles of here, we take credit for it. We have read for years we're number one, we're number one, we're number one and I am mad as hell when I read in Washington, D.C., the federal government is going to spend seventy to a hundred million dollars to attack the problem there when they're telling the world we're number one. I would like for this Commission to go on record immediately telling Washington, our great people up there, that if we're number one, that money should be coming here to fight the problems instead of going up there into the Washington, D. C. (APPLAUSE) Mrs. Kennedy: Second. Second the motion. +,- -k Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I would like to move, at this time, that -whether. it be a resolution or whatever it is of this Commission, that we immediately. tell, - Washington, D.C., that that $70 million dollars or an additional $70 million dollars, but should be sent to the community that they are telling the world that we're number Al one and that we don't like the idea that they're taking care ;hY —' of their own back yard and not looking after ours and that we demand an equ4'': amount of money be sent to this community to the handle problem" if we're number ones let's address it with federal dollars and I so move; Mr,-'Mai►or, x 5; y$x1 Mrs. Kennedy= Second, Mayor Suarez: So moved and seconded. Mr. Raymond McElroy: Excuse me, J.L. Plummer, I'd like to speak on the Dupont Building. - Mr. Dawkins: I'd like to amend that once the resolution is prepared that =` since we got our Washington lobbyist here, that he set up a meeting with the ;. appropriate people in Washington and I hand deliver that message to the appropriate people. Mr. McElroy: Excuse me, Mayor, may I be recognized on the Dupont Building? - Talk to the issue. Mayor Suarez: Yes, except, wait a minute, we have a motion and a second. We -- do try to follow the agenda and certain parliamentary procedures here. That item, the prior item, we only got into to the extent that any Commissioner _ —_ wanted to ask questions, they obviously didn't ask you any but we're going to get to you in a second and see what exactly you wanted to add, although I - can't imagine anything being added to the discussion at this point. Call the roll on the prior motion. The following resolutions were introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved their adoption: - RESOLUTION NO. 89-338 A RESOLUTION URGING THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO MAKE _ AVAILABLE TO THE GREATER MIAMI AREA AN AMOUNT EQUAL -TO' - THE APPROXIMATE SUM OF $70 MILLION IN FEDERAL FUNDS — WHICH IS BEING MADE AVAILABLE TO THE DISTRICTOF: COLUMBIA FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT AND CRIME CONTROL MEASURES; FURTHER DIRECTING THE. CITY' CLERK TO TRANSMIT - A`COPY OF THIS RESOLUTION TO THE HEREIN DESIGNATED, OFFICIALS.,r'- :rF (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on - file in the Office of the City Clerk.) �z = RESOLUTION NO. 89-338.1 A RESOLUTION' DESIGNATING MIAMI COMMISSIONER MILLER J. *per DAWKINS AS AN EMISSARY OF THE CITY OF MIAMI COMMISSION AND CHARGING COMMISSIONER ' DAWKINS WITH THE s RESPONSIBILITY TO MEET WITH 'APPROPRIATE GOVERNMENTAL Y ems. OFFICIALS AND TO HAND -DELIVER' A . CITY OF- MIAMI T RESOLUTION ADOPTED THIS DATE, (RESOLUTION°NO.89-338), URGING THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO MAKE AVAILABLE TO THE GREATER MIAMI AREA AN AMOUNT EQUAL TO THE APPROXIMATE j SUM OF $70 MILLION IN FEDERAL FUNDS WHICH --IS BEING MADE AVAILABLE TO THE' DISTRICT OF, COLUMBIA 'TO SPECIFICALLY FIGHT DRUGS. Upon being seconded by Commissioner Dawkins, the resolutions were peaaed - and -adopted by the following vote: AYES: Commissioner J.-L.-Plummer, Jr.' Commissioner Rosario Kennedy- Commissioner Miller Dawkins Vice Mayor Victor De..Yurre:Mayor Xavier L., Suarez NOES: None. ABSEN : None. � COMMENTS MADE.DURING. ROLL, CALF.: _ 14 41 RL r.. �r i.a .M1J r"a-.� .r,cS,.�7rlt.*.``'' �r�✓� Mr. Plummer: I would hope that that would be sent not only by Miller Dawkins as a special courier with the lobbyist, but I hope that that would be sent to emery elected official up there, every Congressman and every Senator and let's let the world know that we need that help here. And let's see if we can't get some response in our back yard instead of theirs. I vote yes. Mrs. Kennedyt Absolutely yes. COMMENTS MADE FOLLOWING ROLL CALL: Mr. Plummer: Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Mr. McElroy: OK, my name is Raymond McElroy, I'm a state general contractor. I worked about four years ago in the Dupont Building when I first moved down here from New York I was doing some work there for Larry Silverstein. I did some of the tenant build out work in there and it's in a very unusual system of construction, the building is. It's gypsum walls, which is a gypsum block system with plaster laid over, set on to an all marble floor throughout the building, not onto sand and then concrete. This is not a very difficult system to work with if the contractor was experienced with it. _ Mayor Suarez: Why does somebody want to sell this building if it's such a nice building? _ Mr. McElroys It's a beautiful building but the leasing is very slow right now. We all realize that and... _ Mayor Suarers Why don't they lower the rates to adjust to the market? I mean, we could go on forever. Mr. McElroy: I am talking... Commissioner Kennedy made a statement about the _ walls and I'm addressing the statement. When I walked in this room that she address that the system of construction was so cost. It' isnIt'very cost - worthy. I have historical records that'll back that somewhere around $8.00 a square foot would-be a fair value to do the tenant build out in this,.building..' I' don'tthink that should be in question as the cost to do the tenant improvements.' I think the only questions of concern is you address where the new City = building should be set. I think a new building going with historical costs and the way the market is right now, to construct -a new building'. and with the City''s experience in construction, would cost a= great.deal..more=:than' =s� purchasing this building and improving it. That's about all I'd have to say; Mayor Suarez:, Thank you. And, once again, for. the -record, unless I.. heard Commissioner. Plummer wrong, he's been a principle- proponent= of .::this acquisition and he, himself, is stating .that as of now, he's not interested)in having the, matter on the agenda. Mr. Manager, I don't think the: rest of" are interested 'in having the -matter on the agenda so, please, got something else that we ought to consider about this, some new information,; please no more studies, no more consideration, no more -contemplation. I do have private sector people if it was* a matter of having. a blue ribbon committee to consider what would be the ideal thing for the City to do that I. would recommend and I'd have no problem with that but I think it's just_ cloudingthe issue and that's why I want - at this ' y point, I don't even want to Impanel such a blue ribbon committee because it's going to give the impression that we're looking to buy a building. We get - every time this discussion' takesplace, we got tons of offers. By the, way, I hope all of those are being. ;=s; routed to the Manager, from my office and those of the other Commissioners and, the DDA because ;we get all.kinds of`interesting=offers with incredibly low pse-_ square foot rates and maybe something will come u out of all this I.su =- 9 Y g P , ppose, ; but we:just* can't keep rehashing:: it. There's no -interest in this:Commissioti> right now, : the majority, for buying that building. Mike'$ : did-,, you'-.wept°.,to anything? On behalf of DDA or.. - r Mr. Mike Kosnitzky: Yes, Mr. Mayor,: I'd like.to be recognized ;to speak oa4tbe�' i tame topic but some new Informat-ion,, if Ii might. My._ name 'is:.Mike . Mayor -Suarez; Are you doing this in your capacity as a member of Doanaxowa. Development Authority? Y� Mr'. Kosnitzky; No, I'm speaking to, -.you 'now. in:rmy' capacity as a member p'x tbp 7t r�r§ board of directors of the Greater Biscayne Boulevard Chamber, and n�Am, br the .board 'ot directors �of ,the Downtown Condominium ,Active' 4"oA41143ttpo, s "t'' is Michael Kosnitzky, 600.,, Ki i ri • Mayor Suarez: I forgot you had more than one hat. Go ahead, give us your address, Mike. Mr. Xosnitzky: Six hundred N.E. 36th Street, apartment T3. Mr. Mayor, members of the Commission, Mr. City Manager, thank you very much for the opportunity to that with you just for a few moments about a new proposal that I take it that you have not heard about, but I wanted to, on short notice, get on the record on behalf of my community with this new proposal. The proposal is for the phase II administration building to be located at 4400 Biscayne Boulevard. It is the former Key Pharmaceutical Building that was recently acquired, I guess, perhaps a year and a half ago, by a company called FF Fund Corp. For a moment I'd just like to chat with you about the merits of what I would consider the social, economic, emotional merits and I'd like to tell you, just for a few moments about what I think the economics of the deal are. Again, I'm speaking to you not on behalf of the owner of the building but rather on behalf of several citizen groups. Mayor Suarez: The address is where? Mr. Kosnitzky: Forty-four hundred Biscayne Boulevard. We've unfortunately had to expedite our proposal. I have here a draft form proposal that I'd like to distribute to you. It has not been endorsed by all the citizens groups in the area but we hope it'll be endorsed within the next week or two. As you all know, Biscayne Boulevard at one point in time was a gateway to this great City. Unfortunately, it's fallen into disrepair over the last several years. In fact, there has been no public investment, at least City investment, in northeast Miami for at least 15 years and that has led to declining property values and general decline in the economic environment to the area, undervalued housing, etcetera. I think if you remember Biscayne Boulevard as it was, and you see it as it is now, you can appreciate the decline that has occurred during the last several years. There is a new movement on Biscayne Boulevard to revitalize the area and as you know, public investment, ..in particular public buildings, such as was developed at the government center and another example, INS Building at 79th Street has helped to revitalize those communities, the area surrounding those communities. And that's essentially what we're asking here today. Let me tell you a little bit about the building and then I want to tell you the proposed lease arrangement. The, Greater Biscayne -Boulevard Chamber has been authorized to present this proposal and to proceed in accordance with this proposal but,, obviously,.ve do not represent the owner of the building and any discussion_.of specific terms of the lease would have to be addressed with the owner directly. The building is 150,635 square feet which is exactly what the Department of Development said: was required in their study. The facility has presently 450. enclosed parking slots. After it will be relined, .it will have; approximately .500 enclosed parking slots. Exactly what is required pursuant to the Department of Development study. The location of the building.is prominently on Biscayne ;F Boulevard which is serviced by bus routes, it's close to the new Metromover station, it's close to the I-95 and 195 exit ramps and 36th Street. So. locationally, it meets several different locational specifications.set.:.forth in the Department of Development's study. a Mayor Suarez: What Metromover station, Mike? Mr. Kosnitzky: Omni -Venetia proposed Metromover station. Let me; tell you.a little bit about the economics that are proposed... �j Mayor Suarez: I guess it's closer than to - not close, but closer ;.. Mr. Kosnitzky: Closer. All of the things that I've addressed so far and that things 1 will address are set forth in the proposal. I also, want to. Point 1 to you that.- and-I'11,give you.a copy. of this too -the Fortune magazine,Ghat has not yet been distributed has. the _building mentioned in it.jn .the s ctian j, covering Miami. .There's,an advertisement. about it here..dlasp.: building. The building has.its,own private cafeteria,,.it will, have a heljpox.:g pad, it. has a da —� y ,care center - will have , a: day care, center chambers, Mayor, Suarest And what's .:the. eaFtimated expenditure , for , a hur�rl,, apt xth fifteen,- aotine I'm net saying: a;.hundred, and .fifty �.th9uaasd squa��, Mr. Kosnitzkys Unfortun... =` 36 1 p 9 Ru..�.»,::u.rs:N}MI `^".Y..dd?6•`+NiE=.i :/•;'£�ChW .' ' �tt i{ t j Mayor Suarea: because I'm sticking to the minimum requirementa, not what *a ? eventually hope to house there. I don't particularly want to add to City employment roll. It's a beautiful building. Mr. $aileyt Mr. Mayor, may I just mention the hundred and fifteen is for office space, the rest of the space includes City Hall chambers, day tare center and cafeteria. Mayor Suarezi Not interested in putting City Hall Chambers over there myself. That's why I want to know about a hundred and fifteen thousand square feet. What would that cost? Mr. Koanitzky: I can't speak to that at the present time. Mayor Suarez: That's what we need to know. Mr. Plummer: This is in the forty-four hundred block? Mr. Koanitzky: Yes. Mrs. Kennedy: Across from Bay Heights. Mr. Plummer: And it says here, two blocks from the Metromover station. Mr. Koanitzky: No, I don't think it says that-, Mr. Commissioner. ip Mr. Plummer: Well, that's what I'm reading here, summary of tentative findings. Mr. Kosnitzky: I think you're probably looking under the wrong column. - Mayor Suarez: It's a future expansion of an expansion that is now being planned for the ,future. Mr. Plummer: OK. `. Mayor Suarez: To be done in the future of that future, but, you know, it's a' little bit far - Mike is a visionary and... the building is otherwise a.great idea b ' `'and I'm _ y thewa y happy, like I said before, at least these: kinds of proposals do come up but we need to know what's the beef, how much is it going to cost?`. Mr.'Kosnitzky: I understand. Let me tell you the economics on 150,000 square: feet based upon the Department of Development study and then. I"can't,,as I.: mentioned to you, I don't speak for the owner, I speak for citizens' groups {, that have been authorized to speak on behalf of the owner, in accordance with s� this proposal. M 5 , Mr. De Yurre: Mike, I think that I've seen the building and based on your recommendation and the building is beautiful. I think the location is great..'' I wouldn't' mind, you know,' recommending at this time that the administration pursue talking with the owner of the building who has expressed the interest of not wanting to sell', but rather leasing it and I think if we start leasing' it as a need basis comes along, it won't cost us that we have to : build; and then we have to have all this empty space that we don't need for years.until. r� tx we move in eventually. I think that it would be away to so to pursue this �5= — and to come' back with some understanding as to what's doable 'and what a, not doable with this building. Mrs. Kennedy: Commissioner, I went to see the building myself.. - excuse me ` it was not the location that I really was looking for "but, the brochure camp to 1��* me` and I thought it was' feasible to take alook the -numbers at was really impressed. The building is cost efficient, the. building adequate parking and square feet that we're lookiny g at. I subseyueaatly ' net srz q Rr with the owner who said that'he'would givb us a'million anal a helf do la a fob y tenant improvements it closing, that he would give ,us two Yz 4'< I a$ked Herb`-Pailey yesterday to look: at the :building: and 'giW4 us a'' ina►A+� a analysis Mr Bailey" went; ` he called ins al'eo with tj iO same: imprO.$j ; "fheYa y, was very impressed with the'building and paxhaps'ha would 1'iketta AszV sa'+�ss'�h�, r g pp,, jJykSST y �i 22 j r " • Mr. Bailey: We were asked to look at the building and I went along with two of my staff people and we went through just about every part of it and I have to preface my remarks - something similar to what Commissioner Kennedy said with the exception of the location in terms of our absolute commitment to continue developing the government center, I don't think that we could find a building, or we could not build a building of that physical structure at the price that we are proposing to build our new building. It is absolutely a triple A building designed and made for a Fortune 500 company with security and things that we haven't even thought about and at a price far less than what we could build a building for. But our position, and I say it again, until we are instructed otherwise, is to continue our support in the development of the government center so that all government services within the City of Miami will be consolidated in such a way that citizens will have a much easier access to come. But the building, we have to say and we gave it a very fair appraisal, we could not build a facility of that type. It has everything that you could possibly ever hope for. Mr. Kosnitzky: Madam Commissioner, I just wanted to add, that's correct. A million and a half - the owners offering a million and a half for build out. It has - will have a design prepared for the various build out and zero rent first two years, then $10.00 a square foot for the next two. Mr. Dawkins: You talking about leasing or purchasing? Mr. Kosnitzky: The deal would be a 17 year lease deal with various options to h 1 h d i f kl Ih t df — purc now a ong t e way an , qu to ran y, ave o e er the owner and the City to work out. Mrs. Kennedy: OK, why don't we instruct the City administration to work out... — Mr. Dawkins: OK, I will tell you - let me tell you before anybody - let me tell you before anybody do anything, OK. Mrs, Kennedy: Excuse mel Mr. Dawkins: I'm not in favor of leasing anything, OK? I have to tell you that up front so that the administration know. Mrs. Kennedy: OK. Mr. Dawkins: If you're talking in terms of selling the building and they instruct the Manager or anybody to go see about buying it, don't see about' — leasing it. Mrs. Kennedy: All right, then let me... Mr. Kosnitzky: Mr. Commissioner, can I ask you a question? ■ Mrs. Kennedy: No, excuse me, Mike, one second... i Mr. Kosnitzky: Would you be... I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Mrs. Kennedy: ... because I started and Commissioner Dawkins cut me.. Mr. Kosnitzky: I apologize. Mrs. Kennedy: You're not going to cut me in now. rt, Mr. Kosnitzky: I apologize. Mrs. Kennedy: kri 41 OK. I would like to ask Mr. Bailey--` I don't plan, to — gentle - Mr. Bailey to come back with a'financial recommendation on` -that building.' _ Mr. Bailey: We would do that, Commissioner. I would just like to say',for_the F record that we are also workin& on the premises of consolidating servIcee terms of having an efficiency of operation and having asmanrr: p of our emptQyees within 'the " same location as we possibly �w P Y.'can', We''will do the number `orun,obipg — for you and we will come back with a comparison. We would also life to `slags have for the `record' that we are looking at something other than !}u{gbOrs you.would decide for us not to do that, we'll do just the numbexe,p ; 40 n Mr. Kosnitzky: Miss Commissioner... Mr. Dawkins: I'll second the motion.,. I'll second the motion just for the sake of discussion and what have you. But I feel that the same theory that was used for the revitalization of Flagler could be used for the revitalization of Biscayne Boulevard. Where you to put something in thers, you would enhance it, so I don't know. I mean, those things should be looked. at when you tome back, Mr. Bailey. Mr. Bailey: We will prepare a report for the next Commission meeting if that's what you like. Mr. Dawkins: That's the Commissioner's motion. Im {Yy iV, Mr. Kosnitzky: OK, they got a second. Mr. Bailey: Commissioner, for the next Commission meeting? Mrs. Kennedy: Yes. Mr. Bailey: We will have it. Mayor Suarez: Thank you. Thank you everyone and let's go on to... _ Mr. Bailey: In May. — Mr. Dawkins: No, you have to call the roll, she made a motion. Mr. Kosnitzky: Mr. Mayor. <. Mayor Suarez: Call the roll, please. }° - The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Kennedy, who moved its adoption: MOTION NO. 89-339" ;Y — A MOTION DIRECTING THE CITY ADMINISTRATION TO STUDY A RECOMMENDATION MADE TO THE CITY COMMISSION.FOR USE OF r'= _ BUILDING LOCATED AT 4400 BISCAYNE BOULEVARD.AS.THE•NEW.: Y. CITY ADMINISTRATION BUILDING; FURTHER DIRECTING THE ADMINISTRATION TO COME BACK AT, THE NEXT- CITY - 'COMMISSION MEETING WITH A .FINANCIAL ANALYSIS, AND — ,RECOMMENDATION. Upon being seconded by Commissioner Dawkins, the motion was passed and adopted by the following vote: ` AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.,' Commissioner Rosario Kennedy '- Commissioner Miller Dawkins Vice Mayor Victor De Yurre Mayor Xavier L. Suarez NOES: None. k aafr —� 4 j ABSENTS • None . COMMENTS MADE DURING ROLL CALL: . I Mr. Plummer: To endeavor. to try to get the best price and save the' City most: money,- ,if this -has potential' I'll vote yes. ! Mayor -Suarez: Yes, same --basic reasons. z �' €• _ COMMENTS MADE FOLLOWING ROLL CALL: Mr. Kosnitzky: Could -I ask just one last question? Mayor Suarez: You might lose momentum. Mr. Rd Gilman: At this point, what I would like, Mr. Mayor, if I could, let = roe just... Mayor Suaress He might lose your momentum. Mr. Gilman: 'fell me... my name is Ed Gilman, I'm at 15103 N.W. 77th Avenue and what we would like to do, as long as you are voting to study a proposal, we also have another proposal that would allow for the building to be located _ in Overtown and the Vice Mayor has indicated as well... Mayor Suarez= Get that to us in writing as quickly as possible. The basic fact sheets. Remember, that, you know, as much as I appreciate the idea of - 4400 Biscayne and all of us do, the important thing is all of us are concerned about, beyond anything else, is the cost so give us specifics on that, please. Mr. Gilman: Mr. Mayor, this particular project is located where the channel 4 studios are currently which is between N.W. 3rd and Sth Street on Miami Avenue. - Mayor Suarez: Some people don't think of that as Overtown, some people do, - it's sort of downtown. — Mr. Gilman: Well, as I understand it, we've had some discussions with the City administration and it is Overtown. _ Mr. Dawkins: WTVJ don't think it's Overtown, you can bet on that. WTVJ ' doesn't think it's Overtown. — Mr. Gilman: Well, we realize that there is a difference of opinion, but this building. would be built by General Electric and a developer locally and the City would be leasing space. It would be somewhere in the neighborhood of 400,000 square feet and the City would, of course, have.access to a hundred and fifty thousand. Mayon Suarez: You know, we're evolving - I have to say, we're evolving, at = least I'm evolving a little bit in mythinkingtowards the possibility of,the- :5 space being leased in a project that we want to otherwise build for whatever purpose, so that's... Mr. Gilman: What we're asking for at this point is to study our,.proposal as z well and to allow us to bring it to the attention of the;,Commission. Mayor Suarez: There's been many proposals for,that site,,of course, and,each one has been more complex and more grandiose than the previous one and none of ahem have gotten off the ground... Mr. Gilman: Well, we think that this one... -x„< MEN_Ma or Suarez: but it is prime land and I know that TVJ wants to maintain ®_ a presence there and maybe... p Mr. Gilman: They absolutely do and the only way they really can stay is with this type of project being built on that property which is about 33 to 40 percent owned by the City. Mayor Suarez: Very good. Thank you.: tiro Kosnitzky: Can I just ask one other question of Commissioner: Dawkins? t Oh, he's leaving. OK, can I..._. �- Mayor Suarez: Why don'.t you_ask.it of him privately sometime?; 3 hits Mr. Kosnitzky'. OK, can I hand 'this out, to the .Commis�aioners at f this time• { Mayor Suarez: You can hand out ,anything you want,"Michael. `z —� Mr. Kos nitzky.: OK, thank'you. r t . - i l 14 «f t j 1 u iA alf�3�5j � f F jj — .,Z�rF5sK1 r J.— - :r f =s Mayor Suarett item 32, status - discussion regarding the status of Brickall Park. I presume all of this is resolved. We will be receiving a large amount of money soon and you're just going to tell us the good news. Mr, Plummert Wait a minute, hold It, Mr. Mayor. Mr. City Attorney... Mr. Jorge Fernandez: Yen, air. Mr. Plummer: I received from you yesterday a sheet of all pending litigation... Mr. Fernandez: Yes. Mr. Plummer: The Brickell family has filed a lawsuit. Mr. Fernandez: No, no, that is the pending lawsuit that we're settling. Mr. Plummer: Oh, OK. Mr. Fernandez: We're in the process of settling. Mr. Plummer: All right. Mr. Fernandez: That's the one that's been going on for a while. Yes.. This is a report that I feel like I must make to you because you must be aware of what's happening with the negotiations that -you have- authorized %pus to' undertake to settle the lawsuit and, in effect, to have what's being called the swap between the park and the point property. In the agreement that we:. entered there was a closing date for April the 20th. Now, we are being asked to extend that closing date to June 26th andd this is, I believe, something. that you must be aware of and certainly acquiesce because I don't feel that have unilaterally the authority to go ahead and change that date on my own have'analyzed this issue of the extension of time'for the closing -datei.'and really poses no legal problems to the City. I have conversed with administration and there is no administrative problem either . in granting -the' extension for closing to June 26th and so it is my recommendation that there being no legal or administrative impediment to granting the extension, that the Commission acquiesce to it. Mr. Plummert So move. Mayor Suarez: Moved. Mrs. Kennedy: Second. Mayor Suarez: Seconded. Call the roll. The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who,. moved' its adoption: MOTION NO. 89-340 A MOTION APPROVING RECOMMENDATION BY CITY ATTORN EY TO EXTEND THE 'PRE .FOR'_ 'PRESENTLY SCHEDULED CLOSING.' DATETHE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY- AND THE,: OWNERS F�`BRICKELL PARK AND POINTE PROPERTIES FROM 'A?RIV'.' 20 1989 TO JUNE 26, 1989, wq Upon 'being seconded 'by Cohviissioner Kennedy," `themotioW van-,-, p0s*�* . *do ted ` b*'the f olloVing voter 43 7 7 - tTl AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Comiarioner Rosario Kennedy Comissioner !filler bawkibe Vice Mayor Victor be Yurre Mayor Xavier L. Suarez NOES: None. ABSENT: None. �rrr-rrrrw.-rrrrrr�rrl�rrrr-rrrrr.rrrrrrrrr---rrrrrrrrrr-rrrrr�.- rrrwrr�wr 4!` 11. APPROVE ALLOCATION OF $500,000 AS FIRST INSTALLMENT PAYMENT TOWARD ACQUISITION OF CAMILLUS HOUSE PROPERTY. ------------....r..r-r�r_�---- -----------------------------------�r..rr.. Mrs. Kennedy: And, Mr. Manager, I would like to ask for a loan of that money to go - Mr. Manager. You, I'd like to see the 4500,000 that the City will be receiving to be loaned towards the purchase of Camillus House and since you say that we don't have the money... Mr. De Yurre: Isn't that earmarked for Parks and Recreation..... Mrs. Kennedy: No, loan, that's why I said loan. Mr. Dawkins: Hold it, wait a minute, what are we voting on so I know what we're doing? Mrs. Kennedy: It's a motion only. Mr. Dawkins: What was the motion? Mayor Suarez: No, we voted on the closing -of the Brickell`Park swap and now., 'the Commissioner has a new item having to do with the funds.` i Mr. Dawkins: Oh, this another motion? Mrs. Kennedy: This is another motion. -� Mayor Suarez: Yes, having to do with the funds to be obtained at the moment:' of closing which are how much? F� Mr. De. Yurre: Let me hear this. Mr. Jorge Fernandez: $500,000. Mr. De Yurre: Let me hear this. - Mayor.Suarez: Mr. Manager, I will second the motion, OK, unless you've got some other funds that you can suggest that we can use for the purchase of the Camillus House property, which I thought was going to be on the agenda with7an appropriation ordinance today and 'I don't see on the agenda, Mr. City: Attorney. Mr. Dawkins: Under discussion... 4 _ r M -'Mr. De Yurre: Uh, they're going to lose my vote on that one. t Y Mr. Fernandez: Not up to the City Attorney. MayorSuarers This Commission... wait a minute,. wait a.minute:,,., l Mr.. Dawkins: Under discussion., .. axt,,�y;y}' Mayor Suarez: Wait a minute,: Commissioner Dawkins, this Conaisasion vor,ed Lo _, f do ,,that acquisition - :and you 'told us, Mr City -. Attorney, appropriation : ordinance. I hops we have;: aw appropriation odipaace ' naxtCommission ineatng,'� �..' Mr. Fernandez: J can prepare you vile but uoiass the City ti aege with the•money, that Ordjnaapce. wouldn't mean a thug. I } p r ' yf Mayor Suaress I am making sure both of you cooperate in getting this done.and that's why I'm asking the Manager about a better recommendation for funds. If snot, I .will second the motion. I'll take $500,000 at this point wherever they're not tied down, legally or constitutionally, for the use of purchasing the property. That's how strongly I feel about it, for my vote. Mr. Odios Let me explain, if the issue is a loan, I can... - Mr. Dawkins All right, call the roll. Let's see, I don't think we got five... Mr. De Yurre: No, no, but I have to understand what the motion is now. n Mayor Suareat No, no, no, I've not seconded it yet. Mr. Plummers Wait, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, I'm ready to invoke the rule. What's the motion on the floor? Mayor Suarez: Mr. Manager, before I second the motion so that we have to s consider it... f Mrs. Kennedys For the $500,000, you know what the motion is. Mr. Plummer: If you don't second it, I can't invoke it so go ahead. Mayor Suarez: I have not seconded it yet. I want to know where else can we find funds for the acquisition as approved by this Commission? _ Mr. Plummer: From the Gates lawsuit pension which you only owe about $23 million dollars right now. This City is supposedly in deep financial problems and we're going out buying... Mayor Suarez: Mr.' Plummer, some days you remind me of the Manager but today µ_ you don't. Now, I want the Manager to answer where we're going to find these funds. Where else can we look for the funds?. _ Mr. Odio: We. received monies back from UMTA (Urban Mass Transportation' Administration), it was seven hundred and nineteen thousand. Those, were by your -orders, they are set aside onlyfor the use in 0ve3rtown.:. We',can ,t borrow.. Mayor Suarez: Those were received from UMTA for what purpose or for what.` reason?.- . Mr._ Odio: It was reimbursements of work that - of monies that we, spent in Az Overtown way back. - Mr.'Dawkins: To put the Arena. To buy the land to put the.Arena. r� Mr. Odio: That's right, so that money it is in the bank. We have this money, coming in but that was earmarked for parks and recreation and only you can change that. We�can borrow money from Section 108. F Mayor Suarez: That money is not. available. I want money that 'a,available v now. a Mr. Odio: Section 108-can become.. MayorSuarez: What about'.the three hundred and sixty or, so thousand that=was' left over from the housing_ bonds of 1975'.that,was.mentioned .tows -a Aealo ut ' r4 the time that we'were previously: considering the .purchase ,of Camillus House? Mr. Odio: IOil': have to check into that. I:: know- I:. haven''.t. seen; that but I oan W p check into that one. In other. r. .SSA. 4 'hear'the: athe� Mayor: Suarezi I want to. person that: wants to go through with the sale tosee where he; wants xo :f iDs! x P. the monies but 1! 1l vote ' -for ,• any motion, at thin point, that aIIocate a > the moniea'1 Por thin purchaso-.. i - � T el •=p yb Cif i�'�A d'�.N �,� • { Mr. Odic: There's another alternative we have RPPs out for the sic blocks in that = including Camillus House that a developer would come in and buy that. `, Mayor Suarez: I am not interested in the possibility that some private developer will develop Camillus House. I want - I mean I'm interested in that - but I want first to have the property... Mr. Odio: We would get, we would get... OK, yes. Mayor Suarez: ... Mr. Manager, because, otherwise, the time is clicking... _ r Mr. Odio: Well, you tell me where to get it from. Mayor Suarez: the area In gaining in value, we may never be able to accomplish this. >ti Mr. Dawkins: You know, hold it, may I say, under discussion? Mayor Suarez: Commissioner Dawkins._ Mr. Dawkins: The people at Camillus House have stated that they are not going — to move for two and one half years. Now he said that he will not move for two and a half years, he has not even drawn up plans to build what he. wants to build and yet we are going to take money from the City monies that we need to do something else to purchase a piece of land for somebody else to take the - money and put it in the bank and draw interest on while they're making up their minds what to do. I think that's ungross and unfair to the citizens.of the City of Miami. Mr. Plummer: Well, especially when the a "! p q appraisals came in at a million two and we're, in our goodness, going to give them two million. That's eight hundred thousand what we didn't need. But we're not in financial problems.. We have no problems, right, Mr. Manager? We're giving away eight hundred thousand so.why..not? - what the hell. ' S Mayor Suarez: What about the answer to my prior question? Herb, what a happened to the three hundred and sixty thousand roughly that we had leftover - from ,the housing bonds of 1975 or ' 76? Mr.' Herb Bailey: The housing bond funds,7 that's specifically to be used. -for the: construction of housing ,or-ta acquire land that affordable housing will be built on. . Mayor Suarez: So how come it was included in the -memo -to us . previously, as :- part. of, the money -that would be used for the acquisition of the Camillus House' N property? Was "f{ Mr. Bailey: We would have.to restrict the.- we canuse it, but it:would have y o to, be restricted for housing development, We have.a proposal coming up.,.. Mr. Plummer: Which I.don't think you want in that area. Mr. Bailey: Well, the.proposal on the agenda today to... Mayor Suarez: Can we have some quiet in the chambers, -please? m:sorr Herb. y. m Mr. Bailey: We have a proposal today that we're asking to go out .for an RFP rA - 3'S :(Request for- Proposals.) to do . a development oa-;the site which may �inciu+�de'r� ,r m:4y . or may not _ include - some housing. But` the,, answer : to your question"- uestioe . is that-.';'.",-` _ the housing bond funding can be used for the development of affordable.houe+ing _ in accordance with the referendum. Ma.or;Suareg That -was from a GO (General Obligation) bond,^wasn't"fit? Hr- Bailey: The -:GO bond !a.1975, that's what we used to buy the. land;for,aom4 of the Park West in Overtown area. Mayor; Suarez: OKI Mr.:. Vice Mayor, do' you have any other placa that can try to get this motion passed and identified?, JJY Ms: Plummer: We11, 'Mr." Mayor... r t � Mayor Suareak fifes, Commissioner. Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, let me ask a question. As you know, I'm opposed to the puurchasa of the Camillus douse. 3 Mayor Suarazs !tight. Mr. Plummer: I am not opposed, by the way, for the record, if a private developer comes in there and buys them out and pays them whatever they negotiate and builds a building on that building. I just am opposed to using $2 million of City money which we don't have. I'll vote right -now to put that out for an RFP to let a private developer come in there, buy the property, let him negotiate with them and build a structure on that building. That's fine with me. Mayor Suarez: But, that'*... Mr. Plummer: But the two million of City money, I've got a real problem with. Mayor Suarez: That is not in conflict with the idea of acquiring it. In fact, it's in consonance with it. In fact, the way the cities usually put out things for bid is by first acquiring them and having them as their own property. Otherwise, we're basically just hoping for somebody to acquire property from a third party to build what we want on it, which is nice. `It's . a great creative idea from the Machiavellian mind of our own City staff,and we appreciate that, but one thing doesn't take away from the other is -what I'm _ saying. If we own the property, that's the more customary way of putting`�it out for bids, not when we don't own it. Mr. Plummer: Well, the problem I got is we pay a million dollars for apiece of property and give to the Sports Authority for three hundred.,: Mr. Dawkins: But, I still need to know, Mr. Mayor, from anybody.. Mayor Suarez: Yes.- Mr. Dawkins: Why is it necessary to purchase a piece of- Is that the_ people - I mean, today that nobody's going to vacate for two and a half years?, z What's the urgency in paying money to somebody to hold in the bank to draw:: interest on that you could hold if you had it in the bank and draw interest oa.` and purchase it when he gets ready to move and build? Mayor Suarez: Well, the problem is if we don't fix the f. , price for 'the: acquisition now and we waited two years when they were getting ready' to move to buy it from them - Well, there's two problem with it, one is. the price would be much higher at that point and, secondly is, they might not move two years from now. They might just decide they want to stay there for another - ® I think they have 50 some years left on their lease and.... Mr. De Yurre: Where do we stand as far as... Mr. Plummer: Well, what's wrong with leaving them there? Mr. De Yurre: all we're talking about is: identifying $500,000.` �Froai the{ - block grants - this closing won't take place till after July, can't we earmark $500,000 for a... z� Mr. Odio: Yes, you can, you can take, for instance, street improvement,'. fundo 'rrY -- that are allocated and reallocate $500,000 to do that. You can:do-that you discuss block grants today.' Mr. De Yurre: And then we can always, 5' y if we identify additional money, we caa wfa , always replace it and put it backin there. - Mr. Odios If' you put : it an & loan r, Mayor Suarez: From homeless funds or from funds obtained'from t#e st to ox tiJ�o` whatever. < Mr. De Yurre: Vol!,' can we' do Ithat? pz r V i Yi .> v 1 Mayor Suaraae Sure. like I said, anything that's not tied down and unconstitutional, immoral, or improper, I'm ready to vote on. Mr. Plummer: You're saying to take the money from fixing the streets and take It and pay it to the Camillus House. Is that what your proposal I'*? Mayor Suaraa: Why do you say, fixing the streets, Community Development Block Grant monies? Mr. Plummer: Excuse me... Mr. Odioi I said that we have two and a half million dollars in the street improvement funds that we are proposing...' - Mr. De Yurre: But like facade type of thing or street improvement? Mr. Odio: Street improvements, you know, street improvement, fixing or paving or what. You can allocate part of that for this, yes you can. The question Is, yes, you can. r Mr. Plummer: No, but that's only the first $500,000 right? rx .t 2 Mr. Odio: The first $500,000.. Mr. Plummer:. Now, where's the second five hundred and the third five hundred . and where's the $100,000 a year for five years going to come from? Mr. Odio: Well, I think if we can go ahead with the development of the whole block, that the developer will pay for that. Mr. Plummer: I have no problem with that. I want to tell you. And let. the j#"t developer negotiate with the Camillus House :to -buy it. He. might. pay ,.more. -or hemight-payless, he's probably going-to:pay less because the appraisals are at a -million -two. But to take this to rob Peter to.pay.Paul... Mr."De:.Yurre: Well,::that's'my motion.; Mayor 'Suarez:, Commissioner Dawkins, do you want to add anything?. I'll j entertain a motion on that., Mr. Dawkins: ... the Commissioner made a motion.'; Mayor -!Suarez Oh, you made it? Do you want to second it? Mr. De Yurre':" Yes, that's -my motion. 4 = Mayor Suarez: Second.... ; NONE Mrs.'Kennedya No, I'did.. what is the motion, -to take:.:.? Mayor Suarez: To use the.:. ? Mrs.' Kennedy: From the street improvements? I:didn't make it, move it.. ' Mayor Suarez: ... from this year's Community'Development block grant monies, for the first installment payment. Mr. Plummer: Question... ! E17 iYy y Mrs. Kennedy: ... I'll second. =Plummer i , Question. t h x� Mayor Suaretiz: Moved and "seconded." - Commissioners Piutiamex.4{ y �5 WEMr. { Piumniers Ail rights that's: the ..first $500000,; Now, 9pu,havg'�-m�z - ths second five hundred thousand due? i ". .,,- :. ,.: .` ,: } y :. r rig of ,",��n,-�i x� '4;°"i •. flr� DeSYurra: , Bix tsphthtr 4ftex :alea.ia$R_- Mr. Plummer* And the third five hundred thousand? Mr. be turrot Twelve months after closing. Mr, Plummisti All right, so within the year, you're going to have to e6ft6 up.i. share is the ether Million going to come from? Mayor Suareat Valli the second... Mr. Plumm6rt Vail, wait, no,.. Mayor Suareat ... the last $500,000 was supposed to come from CDBG monies in the other year. The middle five hundred we're going to have to find elsewhere. Mr. Plummer: And where is the additional $100,000 a year coming for the five years? Mr. Manager... Mayor Suarez: Was that an integral part of the deal that the additional one x = hundred or that was a separate pledge that we made to help with the homeless effort of -Camillus House? l Mr. De Yurre: It's separate from the deal... Mayor Suarez: Yes. Mr. De Yurre: '...-but it's a:commitment that we have. Mayor Suarez: Yes, I know, I'm sticking by it. In fact, we'll be hoping to'' get a lot more than a hundred thousand a year so... Mr. Plummer: Where... OK, but that money, as I understand it, 'that, money: that" s=coming for the hundred thousand a year is coming out of the soc'iai'�' monies of the -present allocation of CD, is'that correct? Mayor Suarez: Not necessarily, it could come from whatever we'_find it.. Mr. Dawkins: Why? ,It has to. 'ar Mr. Bailey: Fiecal-improvements, capital improvements part. Mr. Plummer' Where is'.the "add itional'hundred thousand per year for 5 years ,y�. coming from? fix. Mr. Frank Castaneda: Right. Well, there is. five. hundred... whether there's!' five hundred or a million or a :million and a half,, that would come,from the capital improvement pool. The $500,000 for` theoperation.`of the .program ® have .to come from the social program pool and that would have an <impact i about a decrease of 5`percent�on the social service programs. F Mr. Plummer:. Wait a minute',excuse me. How do you come 5 'percent when.,our total pay out is a million? A hundred thousand a year would. .be '10 percent._ � Bach' -program would have to 'be cut'by at least.10 percent. e Mrs. Kennedy: That is correct. —OW; f4 Y.!(Y .r Fy Mayor'Suarez: -If we take the money from that fund. 7 Hr, ,Plummers. Well, `I+m asking if. that's where it's coming froth, {�,� � y � Mayor Suarez; We don't' .know, we have,-"passibilitiee of ,ad�liGional Mnt�p� P funds,: additional homeless`fundswe�re 1.6ppging A SF'^5 351 �}K tfr l'iwamers Well; Mr Mayor, ,excuse" me; :it's . going' to hit this y44t"" pWa� going to have that hearing in June Mayor Suarez: I don't know, that's a 'good duos... Mr.�iallt$neda: YOu're. bavi hbear nQ te he a n$ thi o a torts0on. W�,e' I � r tir. Aawkin�s ' z Noy° we axe riot. ale t re suppaood 44, i f �mOt f e41.y s ":. ..." '�. '_ '•- . %A. }~ Si.. r,r St'�f�i5 %iTj �.}5��i� Mr. Plummert Well, excuse me, would that first allocation come from this y6ar4s funding? Mayor Suareat Let's ask about that. When is the timing of that first pledge of a hundred thousand? Mr. Odiot No, that's after. Mayor Suarest Yes, I think it's for next year. Mr. Odio: After they move. Mayor Suarez: Yes, that's not even to begin until after they have moved so that's at least 18 months.' Mr. Dawkins: How touch money are you going to give them before they move? Mr. Odio: You have to give them a million and a half. s` Mr. Dawkins: All right, now, and this million and a half is going to come from CD funds. Mr.:Odioi' Well, the first five hundred thousand, if you so choose, would come out of the street improvement funds, capital improvements. Mr. Plummer: Well, no, excuse - I'm sorry. Mr. Dawkins: Go ahead, J. L.' Mr. Plummer: .:': a -total million and a half. If this Commission today..., - Mr., 'Odio: Right. y4 Mr. `Plummer ...`"which, 'obviously; it'looke like they're going to do... 3 Mr. Odiot Then do it from there. Mr. Plummer: ... is give a million and a half dollar because : once, you - give' the .' f irat- "half a million Mr.- Odio. =You have to ive'the rest } g ,.'Yes. Mr." Plumtasr: ` .. you're committed. Where' i6 the other million dollars co airxg k � from? t Mr' Odio: It would have come from the same fund. e _r i Mr. Plummer-i All right, now that`lund presently is designated forwhat? r Mr. Odio: Streat- `improvementa. Mr. Castaneda:"Street' improvements. fr�z f Mr.'' Plummer: So, in"other words, that'c='a million..and . a half" street.'"' improveideats that are not' going to be', made to 'eliminate the -soup'"`. „; kitchen. Is that:correct? Mr`. Castanedat That's correct.'-' Mr. P1uimQeri Arid you're goirag� to "'take awe 1Q Sorcent 'program for dive �yaars"toS pay the hundred tousaiid�"�dbli`are Mr. Ae" Yurrei ghat is z r t ) M r c t f µE Mr. 4diot Or if se obteitftother funds -like MacKisinyt� f1r De Xurre . , wo talkeO! about getting_,.-14 i:; r s itrti r '. 7xK.,'at'. s'.. ou 1!t•' gl+amtnar: But ypu{ dory' have thAop� ypRttYE ' ' lava • You"iaAQpa'Oartd' you c+en Wl�#t 1p Ar14 ,haA#` ► rx r x - Mir. Odio: That's correct. Mr, Plummer: ... and guess in the other and you know what one is, going to = fill up the fastest. Mr. bdio: Yes, sir. Y Mr. Plummer: OK7 You can only speak to the monies you have now and ths.oniy source that you know of is to take it from the social programs presently in -- place. I think that this Commission, taking a vote today without hearing from all of the social programs who are going to be cut, is an unfair situation. �r Mayor Suarez: Commissioner, I understand, I understand what you're saying... Mr. Plummers People of the community cannot speak... ^' Mayor Suarez: I mean, we've had this argument before. I just want to add .` that by your own criteria, health and food programs typically get first priority in allocation of those funds... 4` Mr. Plummers Mr. Mayor, with... Mayor Suarez: ... I just want to finish. I just want to say that I can't imagine one... Mr. Plummer: ... without, well when you're clarifying for me on the record, I'd like to respond. Mayor Suarez: But let me just finish this statement... - Mr. Plummer: Surely. E Mayor- Suarez: ... that I can't imagine a more deserving food and health'_ program than what Camillus House carries out. That's precisely• under, the criteria so I understand what you're saying, that it's going to reduce: r' Y Y B, 6 g it everybody elses by 5 percent but it's a very... } Mr. Plummer: No ten, ten percent. Mayor Suarez: I think it's five, but... Mr. Plummer: Well excuse Mrs. Kennedy_: Well, it's five for a total of ten. Yes. MayorSuarez: Well, you're right, I'm sorry, you're right. It's "a hundred <r thousand out of a million a little bit over a million its 10 percent. ' r r 'P Mr. Plummer: It's got to be ten, it's gigot to be. Now, I think, Mr. Mayor, what we're looking at in the purchase'if we can hold:as what.has been said as a true statement, the concept of Camillus House is going to radically change.,`r They're not. going to be feeding _1500 a:day, as they presently do. They're, going to feed only,the tenants of the building. Now, you know.... Mayor Suarers And that's a very important goal of. Camillus House. and it's r� quite a few people. And, by the,way.. 10 w Mr. Plummer: If the Camillus House stays... Y' _j Mayor Suarez: I would hate to think that we could not, two years from ; obtain, & $100,000 a year for. homeless assistance, .in Miami. We've been do :a$ a .'� hundred and -eighty-six thousand under the: McKinney Act, ,we've got a pi'sdge " ;a}� U.. from the Secretary of Housing • and Urban Development of..'two ws3ekp ':ago.f tf� ,. Commissioner was with:nse of ;a :bill ion :'dollars ' in;, requested:Th,i:p c$� national effort so..we'•lI be able - ,to get:,the,. money., w { Mr. Plummer: Well I wish , : especially pr you es eciall if the motion asses.'' u well c Mayor Suars3z: Commissioner Kennedy, for the record, �p i Mr. Plummer: ".� ,Ijf.Yf kCr J��i�r-trSrr�. a'ry� i 7 -- An s, '. Mayor Suarea: Anything's possible. Mr. Plummer: You know, I guess I go back to ray basics and I'll shut up. to give them two million dollars.... Mayor Suarez: Is that a promise? cka Mr. Plummer: for appraisal of 1.2 and they go out and buy for cash a $300,000 home in the Roads Section for their own residence of just the administrators. That's far from poverty. xk' Mayor Suarez: Commissioner Dawkins. Mr. Dawkins: You're going to take whatever it is from the road improvement a` funds, how much? ' :s � Mr. Castaneda: A million and a half depending on how you're going to make the payments. Mr. Dawkins:. A million and a half, from the road improvement. What is the total now before you deduct a million and a half? t't Mr. Odio: Two and a half million dollars. - n Mr. Dawkins: What? Mr. Castaneda: Two, point four. Mr. ,Dawkins: Two, point four. The last road improvement that we did,what h was the total amount of the project? Anybody? Mayor Suarez It depends on which one it is. A big one,,a small one,_an in between one.. Most:.recent.. s s Mr. .:Plummer: It's.a money tree. Mr. Odio: The, last one I. remember is 1.8. Mr. Dawkins: One point eight. s_ Mr. Odio: Yes. Mr. Dawkins: All right, that's good. So now we got how much left after we take this.outl{ Mr.,-Odio:, A.million.. _ Mr. Castaneda: A million. Mr. Dawkins: All right, so youcan't even do any road.repair -in the City.of: ; Miami., OK? Because I want you to understand, . if . you .take: this ; money ,:f rom street, improvements and buy the.Camillus house, I'm going,to::make a motion -'to; take the rest of it and spend one-third of it in Coconut Grove, one-third of it in ;Liberty City.,.one-.third of'it in Overtown-and H.E...Miami OK? :And the: Rpm street improvement fund can be wiped out. ; I'm not. going:. to. site here .:and :ailoV you,not to serve the.people of the City, of Miami, and do: something,elsa. :Now,'. F, I may, .not,,, get, the votes... t , Mr. 'Plummer:. If you want me to lobby,- I,' 11 do • it, .don't ,worxy bout..that ; i Mr. Dawkins: But if this Commission is 'desirous 'of wiping out the street ( : improvema ,,fund;, then', I .gladly :want; to help them. M,c., lwmper:, Can: -_ask__a .,question?, Of ;the •.two and -a half million doi.lara, :,,Commissioner Dawkins has always ,said, the `last to .gat done fs the buck areal tr4are i,s that tao and .;4 half �aillion ,primar3,ly t4 be,spant? 7- Mr. Caetr4geda: Os}e million and a half in Little= Hait.i... 7 kF i s E •' t ✓ - Mr. Plummer.:; Little Hiti, Ripph01 t. Ff a e $w°k4` tip.efap4eQv4rQwo,; twa ,hat�drodd ton thousasadla,� YR # ` .0 � .. ` � ! ,•, t :'r % 7 i t ii ,{ �'}' j �, t�L y5�..7r if ,�'ti�S�jN. � < C •. _9i,+ } 5. 7 Mr. Dawkinns Where's Anne Marie Adker4 They took that. Mr. Castanedas in the Aliapattah t ... arget area, 1.1 million dollars. it is tt7. c — Mr. pluromers All right, so I Just pan t it to be known when those people Come up here and start screaming about the condition of their streets, that this one tried to protect their money. Mr. Gastaneda: This money's also matching a storm sewer... rf Mayor Suarez: He made a statement for the record, didn't ask you any ° further '- questions, Mr. Gastaneda. We have a motion and a second. Any 3 _ discussion? If not, call the roll. rz The following motion was introduced by Commissioner De Yurre, who moved its adoptions — MOTION NO. 89-341 A MOTION APPROVING FUNDS IN THE AMOUNT OF $500,000 (TO BE -TAKEN FROM COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT NSTA LMING/SENT TREET PAYMENT TOWARIMPROVEMD1ACQUFISITION OF THE CAMILLUS _ HOUSE PROPERTY. !� Upon being seconded by Commissioner Kennedy, the motion was passed and �z adopted by the following vote: AYES: -Commissioner Rosario Kennedy Vice Mayor Victor De Yurre Mayor Xavier L. Suarez k NOES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. -� Commissioner Miller Dawkins 4° I ABSENT: None. i. COMMENTS MADE DURING ROLL CALL: cknowledge a couple. of dignitaries, who ,are here Mayor Suarez: And I want to a . r Mr. De .Yurre: I'm going to vote .yes and the important thing is that and Cesar, that we tried; to find meanwhile, an alternate ..source. .and.:.we can}T� = replenish the $500,000. But, if we need to identify, ,we'll,!go with this .for �. now. ' E Mr. Plummer:' I'm not, going to be a party to this.situation. think,:-, it: is ® to no. I would hope, as I've.said before' absolutely horrible and I have to vo that a private developer could come in and have done it and at no cost to the i taxpayers. Obviously, that's not the consideration. I vote no. Mr: Dawkins: I feel that Camillus House is serving the homeless Camillus House has already said; that they're going to be there for .two; and ,;a half years. I: think that they should still be `allowed, to stay there and filed 4 people for two and a half years. I don't see the necessitq of giving them !. t moving in two and a half years, Es;pecial3 money, now and they're no q when ;tea you're going to take that money from a fund that's supposed to .provide t t` services -to the taxpayers who we collect their money. I vote no COMMENTS MADE. FOLLOWING ROLL CALLS Magox Suarez: I want to recognize - I'm sorry. lr Mt. -Plummer: Mr, Mayor, excuse me', may I, once again, Mr. Oity f�ittorm¢y� +.�f Mr. 'PeraaadAzs Yea, sir. rnV� Nor ` Pluaguer: Thla .Co�mnisai9a a �eeSl at : �eaat with. 1qe pill ona;� tts vt, , ,,..� t 'ar; am llus:; Housa # at ail Qf that money :.that::t r �a� W � by . theitp is "mopy that must be Opent aad was.in,the aontraat�carxect�r kh qq a t at ,'�r,?- — i U ,f it rjuY LTvg;�SZ- �- _ - ,. _ _.. r .. .. .. ,.. ,. ,,. .,. •, ,a ..u_ t.-sttt�.. tip. _t�Ya...rad: �i`.�s Mayor Suareet I think we built that in, right. Mr Plutamer: OK now I have one further question. Mr. City Attorttey# is this &buoy being put into +escrow or is this money being paid to theta immediately? Mr. Fernandez: No, it's paid... Mr. Plummert On closing or on their moving? — Mr. Fernandezt No, no, it's being paid on a schedule, $5000000 at the time of closing, $500,000... Yt. Mrs. Kennedy- Six months after... - Mr. Fernandez: ... six months after that and then the other $500,000...r F' Mr. Plummer: All right. { Mr. Fernandez: ... a year after closing. t` _! Mr. Plummer: A scenario. If, in fact, for whatever reason, that money is paid and for whatever reason their superiors decide to move the Brothers of j� the Good Shepherd out of this town, how is the money to be spent in thisr; r community? How do we get a guarantee that this money will be spent in this -�; community? Mayor' Suarezt No, no, the limitation you placed was on the hundred thousand dollars that we're using to help the homeless through Camillus House, not.on the million and a half dollars we're paying them for the property that they _ own, the lease that they own. You can't impose that requirement. You're — buying their property. Mr. Plummer: Oh, I think we could impose anything we want in a negotiated i .i contract.` Mayor Suarez: We didn't, I mean...+ r Mr. Plummer: So, all right, what you're saying is 'it's just addressing the five hundred thousand. fi{ Mayor, Suarez: Right. And, by the way, that deal obviously we're note Y B Y . y committed to it if they do move out, you're right. p7t_ Mr. Plummer: I'm concerned, Mr. Mayor, for whatever reason, if they move out and the' 'deal falls through and we've paid them the money, that's my' concern ; , Mayor Suarez: The purchase is`done, I mean, we've acquired`the''property, .,We can put it out for bids, we can demolish - we established that, . did not, ,we that we can demolish the property?` Mr. Plummer: Excuse me, you can't do that because you're only buying the` leasehold 'interest. - : Mayor Suarez: When we buy the underlying fee simple, we'll be able .to ,s ! demolish-' it. The leasedoes not prevent us' from demolishing, it's a. $0 scan f y year lease.MN Mr. Plummer: Is that correct?..J" Mr.'Fernandez:'~You, there 3s a provision in the contract Mr: Plumtaes: is that with the owner's permissions . Iias the owner Qfe�;`� J. property consented? 3 J t�' Mayor .Suarez: The fee simple - no, no, the fee simple'- owner wQuldk3Qw'r — prohibit that, I don't bel3eva. I think we checked -,'that out th$t tauaF t .I�askiyou, ,noMr. Plummort wrxpYs�� 1 , know, this is this 1udicrous. part,_Aot •:„G i }~ �... t. t. t. ,.. r 1 ,-. .. {. ''r ,. t - �.f .L .... v.. •1 � %i•X ]IFA t/tiyT,f .- _ - - Mayor Suarest The owner is the Brothers of the Good Shepherd on a 54.Par hats. The fee simple owner only owns something that might happen 54 years from then. Mr. Fernandezt Exactly. There is no prohibition against the City building anything during the rest of that period of time if we're not able to buy the fee simple from the person that right now... Mr. Plummers But you - all right, obviously you're hedging and my answer isj you don't have it from the owner in writing. Mr. Fernandez: It is in the lease agreement itself, the lease that we ...... Mr. Plummer: But you don't have it from the owner in writing. Mr. Fernandez: No, we do not. Mr. Plummer: OK. Mayor Suarez: We have it from the owner of the lease for the record. 1 Mrs. Kennedy: But it's... iMr. Fernandez: In the lease. Mrs. Kennedy: in the lease. Mayor Suarez: Not the fee simple owner. Mr. Plumer.:- Yes, all .right and... to iJ Mayor` Suarez:. The; fee 'simple owner owns ;a very little partof this whole property. 'Mr. Plummer: does this is there any prohibition, if the City. now,p"to 'this out for RFP, from the owner of the property that the City cannot build up on top of that? In other words, you know, the owner of the property:'s got some rights... Mayor Suarez: Of the fee simple. Mr. Plummer: Now, the City is contemplating buying out a leasehold only, not the ownership of the property. The City wants to go out with an RFP to develop that property. Obviously, we can't go out any longer than what, the leasehold -interest is: Mr. Fernandez: Correct. r. Mr. Plummer: OK, but does there any prohibition in the law that the owner of the property can stop the City from going out with an RFP? Mr. Fernandez: None that I know of. Mr. Plummer:,' OK.. r.t ktj Mr. Bailey: Not in this case, because this is a redevelopment district and ixt: we're: under State statutes. rtr Mr: Plummer: OK. ' Mr., Fernandez: There is in the contract.... i' 1 tt G r x .. q r �:u.S7r''4 • « - NOTE troR THE RECORD: The following persons in the audience were recognized: El Salvador Vice President Ingeniero Francisco _ = Medino, City of Miami Mayoral candidate Jack Campbell and newly — elected Coral Gables City Commissioner, Jim Barker. _ _........_ . _ __-. -: _.._ ........_N _ .------------------------�.�.....__.._- ..�_-..�...�. � ;; - 12. INSTRUCT CITY ATTORNEY TO ENSURE RECOGNITION OF THE CITY OF MIAMI SEAL =' o PRESENTLY USED AS THE OFFICIAL SEAL OF THE CITY OF MIAMI. �..M----•.-----------------------------------------------._ ... Mayor Suarez: Item 33... = Mr. Plummer: Big deal, the City seal. Mayor Suarez: ... the City seal. Good to have controversial items every once in a while. Mr. Jorge Fernandez: No, it really isn't controversial, it's only come to my f' attention that last Commission meeting when you passed a resolution for placing City signs at different places in the City when you come into the City welcoming sites, you made reference to including in the sign the official City seal. Mayor Suarez: That's it, end of discussion. We just got a nice stamp from your very... Mr. Fernandez: OK, exactly, correctly. That's what everybody perceives and understands to be the official City seal. Mayor Suarez: -I'think, including this Commission so there's no need to change _ anything. Mr. Fernandez: Correctly, but we have not undertaken steps, the City, :since., k` _ 1925` f_ Mayor Suarez:: Mr. City Attorney has.: As City Attorney now for the Off Street. v " ParkingAuthority,' would you convince them that they ought to use the City seal, this one that we're accustomed to. They are a City .agency now. that h you're their attorney. Mr. Fernandez: ''I will try to persuade them.' However...` Mayor Suarez: This is not to go... Mr. Plummer: No, no, no, no, you don't understand. You will tell them. Mr. Fernandez: I would tell them what the City Commission says. - Mayor Suarez: This is not to imply that they have to - Commissioner, if I may,_ this is not- to imply that they have undo signs and >,other things -and undergo an expenditure but, you know, really they ought to work their way back to the official City seal. They're a City agency.. They want to have`. their, — own separate seal, that's..: Mr. Fernandez: But my point is thatI would: like to ,ask'.you•: if • you `vipuld like to instruct me to take .every. step necessary to ensure that ,at the'.., State level this •City, seal `: is, in fact', recognized -! 'as :the official;? City `- � seal.. F, X Mr. Plummer: Oh, yes. ,4 - M1 � Mr. Fernandez: ... nothing prevents...' Mr. Plummer Oh, yes., Mr. Fernandez: ...,another municipality.,. r�}� r S kc Mayor Suarest This is not going to cost us anything, right? To tell the tederal government... Mr. Plummer: it's already..4 Mr. Fernandets No, other than You officially recognizing, on the record, there is a resolution passed in 1896 that this was the official City seal. Mayor Suarez: You're a very procedural person, you know that. We agree with all of this. What do you want us to do, move to tell you that we ought,to tell the whole world to recognize our City seal? Is that what you mean? Mr. Fernandez: And then file this as a trademark in fact with the State of Florida and with the Federal government... Mayor Suarez: Yes. Mr. Fernandez: ►.. so that, in fact, no -. it cannot happen... Mayor Suarez: Foreign countries? Mr. Fernandez: You understand what's happening to the City of Hollywood? Huh? Mayor Suarez: Foreign countries, territories, potentates, everybody else, right? Mr. Plummer: The only ;question I have is, since we don't have any more coconut trees...._no,'no, don't take the money tree! i INAUDIBLE COMMENTS NOT ENTERED INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD. Mayor Suarez': Do we have a motion on the seal? Thank you. - Mr. ;Dawkins: What about the seal? Mr.`Fernandez- I really didn't mean to make a big deal out of this. Mr. Plummer: - .Oh, no ! Mayor Suarez: The motion reads that the seal be stamped :on Commissioner,,,.: z this is . a City: seal, we're... Y Mr. De Yurre; But -where? j. • Mayor Suarez: We're approving it officially. Mr. Plummer: Why we tattoo it: on,. the, City Attorney's forehead 'so he .don,'t won't forget and bring it back again? y Mr. Fernandez: Right. r Mr. Dawkins:. OK, call the roll. Mayor Suarez: This.is it,.this. is. it, this;is the seal. Call the roll. 'Real, quick, please. = 3 �' Ms. Hirai: Need.a motion, Mr. Mayor. � Mr.,Odio: You.know, they may, but on the seriousside, there's.... Mr- Plummer: Oh, you got to dump is now and help him out, right? 4� Mr. Odioa No, because we' still have signs with the orange...r �xz� Mr. Plummer: Tattoo on both of their foreheads, "r 1rr, k' Mr. Odio: No, no, I... 4x� Suarez: Or `other a ro riate arts , of anatont , ' k Pp P P Y Move. _Mayor - v .ty ie � �''a • ,the .i r. 1. . )Fix t� f;y ! } � I Y � 3 :) � y.'{f C i Mr. Plummer: ...we got such serious matters, right? - �; Mayot Suarest the item. Do we have a second? Mr. Plummer: Oh, ah, pet, of course. Me. Hirai: Yes. f t� Mayor Suarezo Thank you. Call the roll. The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Dawkins, who moved their adoptions E t - MOTION NO. 89-342 _ A MOTION INSTRUCTING THE CITY ATTORNEY TO TAKE ALL t NECESSARY STEPS AT THE FEDERAL AND STATE LEVELS TO ENSURE THAT THE CURRENT CITY OF MIAMI SEAL IS RECOGNIZED AS THE OFFICIAL SEAL OF THE CITY; FURTHER INSTRUCTING THE CITY ATTORNEY TO FILE SAID SEAL AS A TRADEMARK WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND THE STATE x OF FLORIDA. Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the motion was passed and adopted by the following vote: — F AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. t Commissioner Rosario Kennedy Commissioner Miller Dawkins Vice Mayor Victor De Yurre Mayor Xavier L. Suarez i - F NOES: None. ABSENT: None. 13. AUTHORIZE PURCHASE OF ADDITIONAL MICROCOMPUTERS AND PERIPHERAL EQUIPMENT ` FROM .UNISYS.,CORPORATION g,Dade,Count Bid AVard,Contract under. existing y. ;,. ° No. 1059-7/88 for Law Department. '- f: Mayor,. Suarez: Mr..City .Attorney, .this,section. _I have .to explain,: ,this section of the agenda is reserved for the City Attorney. Pretty soon it's ` going to be the entire agenda. What else do you have? Mr. Jorge Fernandez: No, air, it's only three or four items. ,1 �a ' Mayor Suarez: Or five or six. Mr: Fernandez: Well, we need some word processing equipment in our office -:in order to do more efficiently and in a timely fashion: =a Mayor�'Suarez: Within existing; budget, of course. t Mr.. Plummer: Ahhhhhh. R r x to z ?` Mr. Fernandez: What was that? Mayor Suarez: Within existing budget for 19... x' Y �S Mr. Fernandez: Yes, it is. ' And this is,pa�rt of tha progress` of buixdir►B.;r,�� , i;'Plummer: Move Yit.�" r` t� r` Mayar``suarez: Moved. -tNT F j` Mr. De Yurre s Second. 1� t uy.I N iy P g i t Mayors Suarez: seconded. -:Cali y R All, the following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plunner, who f; caved its adoptions RESOLUTION NO. 84-343 F.1- A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE PURCHASE OF ADDITIONAL MICROCOMPUTERS AND PERIPHERAL EQUIPMENT FROM UNISYS CORPORATION, UNDER AN EXISTING DADE COUNTY BID AWARD {; CONTRACT No. lOS9-1/88 FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF LAW FOR 4: ENHANCEMENT OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE CAPACITY OF THE LAW DEPARTMENT AT A TOTAL PROPOSED COST OF $12,604.25; ALLOCATING FUNDS THEREFOR FROM THE LAW DEPARTMENT'S 4 BUDGETED FUNDS, INDEX MANAGER TO INSTRUCT THE CHIEF PROCUREMENT OFFICER TO ISSUE A PURCHASE ORDER FOR THE EQUIPMENT. - (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on —'r file in the Office of the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Commissioner De Yurre, the resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote: AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Commissioner Rosario Kennedy 1 Commissioner Miller Dawkins Vice Mayor Victor De Yurre Mayor Xavier L. Suarez NOES: None. ABSENT: None. NOTE FOR THE RECORD: At this point, Mayor Suarez recognizes Mr. , Sergio Pereira, former City Manager. I---- ------ - -- - - j 14. DISCUSS AND DEFER FOR FURTHER INFORMATION PROPOSED EXTENSION OF LEASE AGREEMENT WITH AMERIFIRST BANK TO RENEW LEASE OF OFFICE SPACE 'IN DOWNTOWN AREA. _ Mr. Jorge Fernandez: On item 35.. Mayor Suarez: Yes, Mr. City Attorney, on your part of the agenda, air. Mr. Fernandez: On item 35, there has already been ample discussion on this. The lease of the space we occupy in AmeriFirst, I have to'exercise that'option- - or the City has to exercise that option by June of 189.''Right now, we have an option for five years that we must notify them by June whether weexercise it _ or -not. I am in the process of negotiating with them and I think I have... Mayon Suarez: You, of course, will negotiate a very "short" lease so that aver ' can consolidate all City offices as possible.' x: Mr. Fernandez: Right now they have come .back with an• option of.instead of ' five years,' of three years. , Mr. Plummer: Why .not the Olympia Building? Why not, the Olympia BuiiSiipg?/ That ;thingis vacant: ' Why don't you go` in the Olympia' Building •and save City! some money? £� z Mr., Fernandez: Well, if.you're willing to allocate or"appropr:iate;gthe amounts neceasary'`for'renovation so that;`it'a` fit for human habitgtion.. A ' { tlsyor' Suarez: -That s always a'$ogd way for to get J. { ? e a SAj,F Fy. ,SY } Mr. Plummers Well, you Know, hey, it's our building and we own it. If we're f; going to spend any money to fix up a building, why don't we fix up our ownfi Q' Nov many square feet you got vacant in the Olympia building now? r s� Mr. De Yurres About sixty? 1 Mr. Plummers Well, we were talking about a mandating of 30,000 square feet if �f Al Cardenas fixed it up. Now many square feet do you use? Mr. Fernandez: Right now, we're using 15,000 and we would need approximately another three thousand. Mr. Plummer: Eighteen thousand, I'm sure that's in there. Mayor Suarez: That's where the City Attorney's office was about seven or eight years ago, I guess. Mr. Plummer: Where it should be. Mr. Fernandez: Originally we were there. Mr. Plummer: Where it should be, it's a City owned building. Mr. Fernandez: We have no problem being wherever you place us. My concern is that-I,have.to exercise an option by June of this year and I need.vaijp"dlear instructions from you on how to proceed. i` Mr.: Plummer: Can I ask that this matter be deferred until we find out how many square feet are available in that building? Where's Mulvena? Mr. De Yurre:; Well, there's plenty of room there but,. you know, thing ie, what is it going to cost to fix it up? Mr. Plummer: Well, it's got to be fixed up anyhow,' it'sour building and we can't -lease it without fixing it up., Mr. De. Yurre: Well, we can give it back to.the.grantors.. Why should we spend money on that? Mr.';Plummer: Well; -maybe we don't have to, I don't know. Mr., De. Yurre::: OK,:°:what I would like to do George.:: Mr. Fernandez: No, wrong, she'`s •crazy. I'm sorry?, frf, t ySe Mr. De Yurre: Is what I would like again, the same thing, that happened earlier.this morning. Go back and I don't think they're about to throw us out. .of there because -I don't, you know, I don't think they're that businesswise or y that. - Mayor Suarez: No much demand, yes. _ Mr. De.Yurre: Yes, -there isn't that much demand. That we go back say,;'_ listen, we're going to go on a year to year basis. We want to exercise the option forone year and do it on an annual basis. Tell them that's what we " want. Mayor. Suarez: We really should be negotiating year to year ,until ae. k3- straighten out the whole issue of our leasing and consolidating space forCity.,3+r offices. F; Mr,.,Plummer: Well, I Mr: Mayor, somethings got to be done with thQ Olym�pil� `sf Building.,jj fi3 }-p 3 f: 0. h TDyf f Mayor Suarez: How much total square footage do we have there? Mr. 4Plummers . Se said". he »eeded eighteen. f Mr. Fernandez: Right now, 'we havejc . IARZ Mayor Suarei But, I< 1ge8�1; fhow much do we hays tolls Gw!lha� ;i`�� .ocuag in? Qn the 0lynipih: Building as a aepartie 'ese.h�4`F all — 1— tt riYidi`wt tr tt,'- � tg J Mr. Odioe I'm checking it out now. Mayor Suarez: Nobody remembers off the top of their heads? _4 Mr. Plummer: I recall that when the proposal from Cardenas came in... Mayor.Suarez: We were committing to... Mr.,plummers ... the City had to guarantee the taking of thirty thousand. :4 Mayor Suarez: Twenty-five thousand? I think it was twenty-five on the DDA 10, that would have been thirty-five altogether. Mr. Plummer: OK, all right. 3: Mrs. Kennedy: Do you want to table this, Mr. Mayor, until we get the figures? Mayor Suarez: Yes. Mr. Plummer: Let's hold it until this afternoon. Mr. De Yurre: Yes, about thirty-five thousand. ";- Mayor Suarez: Table the item for the moment. And I do recognize, I thick the , Commission. does, Mr. City Attorney, that we did move out of that building in ; the ,hopes of .finding better: offices at the time. Now that we have an opportunity, perhaps,: to go with a larger presence, maybe there's away to, you know, do it economically. I don't, know. 4 -------------------------------------- - - - - - - - -� � 4 `'G -- 15. DISCUSS AND TABLE, PROPOSED FIRST READING ORDINANCE - Amending Miami Waterfront Advisory Board Ordinance - require that all issues concerning ;. city -owned waterfront property be brought before said Board before they are submitted toany other City -Board; - ------ -- - H� f { Mayor Suarez: Item 36. � Mr. Jorge Fernandez: Yes,. item 36.` This is a proposed amendment to the Waterfront Advisory Board that the reason I'm bringing it is because, as you know,`we provide legal counsel ao-this board also and'the ass asking that it.be brow ht to y passed a resolution {,- $ .your attentions Mr, Plummer: I move it. 4 Mrs. Kennedy: Second. �- XrS ' Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded. Call the roll. Mr. Fernandez: It has to be read. a" It Mayor Suarez: Read the ordinance.' THEREUPON, THE CITY ATTORNEY READ THE: ORDINANCE INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD, BYE} TITLE -ONLY. x x �rt Mr. Fernandez.- Do you understand the impact of:that L+ Mayor Su4rez: Yes,: let :mq Bet a, clarificatoA. I thought wheo we discussed,S' . than Ma _.said, that o :wouid bemore than willing to refer` items to , them b� ", "rr �. 4#.�'3 1 U{�+L'rF.{ didp �x xiint t be' . o precluded from acting without. if fR 1,13 Mr. Ferai�adaz: ;Bigt}t. Our- ..posit ion, is that we're mergly bQing=. a ° cohdKi. tiQn F f zj you► Aa a Lap D wereepartment, r}eithpr recpmmending nor P►cyiippa=t p,Y Mayorufte�4t; �e ak! !�¢, owpmn�isrioa�Cs�'hb�E Intadd: to dad I-r°zo.rt hNr��'r �- Y `•' w�:;t�aAt ` m��kor, a discus,s�s��n �t��., # 9E,P #f��. U' PPe liAt�haL$oe►p` t4►$ks 1a 1`�° be0 kl 9� - pt�ecl ad4d , rQm ,.sot ns ins on to u z, ,_µ . - don�X kAow that wa''s reed tQ d t{.{QQ _a hev�s#`z,•iy: _ A Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I don't know of any City owned property that is up for lease or sale that's not taking anywhere from six to nine months and... Mayor Suarez: And does definition in the statute envision or is it defined the May he just did, City...? Mr, f'ernandet: `What it says is that$ all issues concerning the City owned waterfront property... Mayor Suarez: That's what worries me, J.L., it's not just the leases being renegotiated. The way it's worded, it could be anything that we act... Mr. Fernandez: Right, correct. - Mayor Suarez: .. that we do, setting rents for any of the marinas. Anything that we can't act unless the waterfront... Mr. Fernandez: Correct. Mr. Plummer: Well, the way to handle that, Mr. Mayor, would be to put a that they must report back to this Commission within 30 days. Because any other item... Mayor'.Suarez: And you want all issues - how is it stated? All issues that... Mr. Fernandez: Concerning City owned waterfront property shall be brought :'<L before the Miami Waterfront Board for its input and advice before said issues are brought before any other City committee or board. It's really.. Mayor Suarez: I mean, that includes this building. Mr. Fernandez: It really - the way that I interpret this, understanding what .their legislative intent was, is that they really want to be involved at the very, very ground level on all... Mayor Suarez: I'm aware of that and we want to involve them at the very,'very-, ground .level. We just :don't want to be precluded, in a very broad ; definitional way, from acting, for example, if we decide to make improvements to,this,.building. That cannot be done without the Waterfront Board? Mr. .Plummer: What: we're saying, I think, is we have - no, problem'with them: looking and recommending but we don't wanttheprocess slowed`Idown. Mayor Suarez: That's it. , Mr. Plummer: Now, how do we accomplish both? Do we do it with this ordinance or is this ordinance could be, as the Mayor indicates, possibly a hiidiance?; >tY If that's -.the case, nobody wants that. l Mr. Fernandez: The way I read it, the all encompassing nature of the words- s_ that are used here would, perhaps, hinder and would be like the .Mayor has suggested,: it would present a problem...' - } Mr. Plummer: So what we... t, „p Mr. Fernandez: ... perhaps before second reading we can come back with... Mayor Suarez: Or can Y you try to bring us a little bit less inclusive, wording this afternoon? Mr, Fernandez: Sure•` _ n,k Mr: Pluanner,t. Why don't ;you work with John who's the chairman and; bxin¢ It Y h �k,h1 #' back this afternoon? Mr. Fernandez: All rightq. Mayor Suaxec And, John, I think what Commissioner_ Plummer low hp Ydegd Y`,' ti4 „ . ltkpiorey ;i,a par-#ectlq acceptable. Ia .other word�,.'�4� rel�ssiag o"p,Aws'ss'rUiF Or -.now: leasing of waterfront property should .Qbv, WOW 99 to 'thp bOA 4 wouldn't want to.'act on it without getting sgtne feedback�►ter��y;1E`fi. VIE . •:',. C,,.. .:.. ... . . ::.. .. ..: . • � _' :'� _ .., .... ..,, ,- 1 :i 7 e:n.? .2 i�rf�{iil �V -?'i� — - r �t#'4 M,. ..trr v.-�.. t'•CS'T*#,5., r��r — stated, it rays any issuer affecting waterfront properties, I mean, we've got tons of waterfront properties and any issues could mean anything we do =' including Watson Island, any City... this building that we're in, any City property that's on the waterfront and sometimes we might do minor things that we wouldn't want to have to go through the board every time. Mr. John Brennan: Well, in the first place, you recognize the Waterfront board is a voluntary organization, number one, which means we are not going to 4 - want to do a lot of serious nit picking. If you don't address it... Mayor Suarez: Oh, I also recognize that we can dissolve that at any time, ,so don't worry about that, I mean... Mr. Brennan: That's right. No, I understand that, I understand that. 3 k Mr. Plummer: Just like the DDA. - Mr. Brennan: What I'm saying is, if you digress too far from the issue, then you water it too far down, the fact that we have a building out here at the entrance to the auditorium here... Mr. Plummer: I can't hear you... - Mr. Brennan: ... an addition to the auditorium, you cut into the parking spaces that theoretically af... Mayor Suarez: Oh please, let's not get into the actual issues. I'm just -_ talking.in the definitional sense. Why don't you work it out for the wording to be a little. bit more what we want it to do and we've tabled it until this afternoon, John, all right? Mr. -,Brennan: You tell us 'what you want, Mr. Mayor. `> Mayor Suarez: We just did. - Mr. Brennant- OK, we got it together? - Mayor -Suarez: OK, item thirty... Mr. Brennan: Give me a call. - Mayor.. Suarez: „Item -thirty - but, no, we're going to try to do it this 'f afternoon. It's not a matter of calling. You might want to hang around:-' -------- ----- — — -- — }' _ 16. OPENREFER FOR APPROPRIATE 'TABULATION SEALED BIDS. .RECEIVED FOR THE DOWNTOWN HIGHWAY IMPROVEMENT PHASE II, -BID "A", B-4521. ---------------------. ---------- - Mayor Suarez: I'm sorry, Madam City Clerk, do we have an item that have to be open, the bids? s Ms. Hirai: We should.open them now, Mr. Mayor.:.. Mayor Suarez: What item is that? R — Mr. Jorge Fernandez: Seventy. r= Me. Hirai. You have the note that I gave you. It's on page 70. = Mayor.Suarez: .Somebody,know? Me. Hirai:: Seventy. Mr. Elummert .. I .move they' be .opened..-.: - Mayor Suarez: So moved. Moved and seconded. Call- the .roll. on bids-l r } l - r s ^t X - The fallowing motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved its adoptions E MOTION NO: 89-344 A [LOTION TO RECEIVE, OPEN AND READ ALOUD SEALED BIDS F FOR THE DOWNTOWN HIGHWAY IMPROVEMENT PHASE II, BID "A"; 8-4521; FURTHER REFERRING SAID BIDS TO THg ADMINISTRATION FOR PROPER TABULATION. Upon being seconded by Commissioner Dawkins, the motion was passed and - adopted by the following votes sz AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Commissioner Rosario Kennedy Commissioner Miller Dawkins Vice Mayor Victor De Yurre 3 `- Mayor Xavier L. Suarez NOES: None. ABSENT: None. Mr. Plummer: What was the projected cost? Mr. Kays Five hundred thousand. —_ - rJ Ms. Hirai: Mr. Mayor, these are bids for construction of the downtown highway - improvement phase number two, bid A. Ms.: Hirai: Yes. First bid comes from M. Vila & Associates, Inc.; total bid $429,629.40; next bid is from S & S Contracting, Inc., total bid, $498,875.00; ` _ next bid ; is from' Williams Paving Co.. Inc., total bid, $533,124.40; next bid ' '? is from Josh Corporation, Mattel Joint Venture, total bid, $568,669.69;-next , r`Y is from Miri Construction, Inc., total bid, $396,096.00; next bid is from'. Community Asphalt Corporation, total bid,_ $658,258.00; :.next .bid, is -from Redland'Construction Co., Inc., total bid, $577,162.00. Mr. Mayor, these are "r all the bids.w rr Mayor Suarez: OK, do we need a motion to tabulate? f £u Mr. Dawkins: So move. Mr. Plummer: Second.' Mr. Mayor,' I want • to ask a question. _Something, fa radically wrong. When you have bids that are :estimated.:rat<a:half a million - dollars and the spread in the bids is $262,000, something has got to be wrong.` Between the high bid and the low bid is a difference of two hundred and.sixty :two ' thousand on, a so. called. half amillion dollars worth,.: of work.. Mr:` Manager,:that's got to - you.were in the construction:business.�. Mr. Odio: What is means, that it means some people don't want the work. They . come in high and say, if they get it, they get it at a good price, ifr they don't... rsx; t Mr. Plummer: Well, then my second question is, if we estimated, and I assume :r}' t our estimates are somewhat :factual and we have someone who comes in at =ice $104,000 less... a �� - Mr. Odio: That guy's desperate for work. `rt Mr. Plummer: ... there's not that much profit in a job. Mr. Odio: No, he's desperate for work. He's leaving a lot money 'oft the .of table. That means he. needs the work. ;•' That!9 .,the way.,industry:;3;e. , ,..this Mr. Plummer. If he makes a 20 percent profit, that's a hundred thousand.`_r`� - Mr, Odios I mean, that's his problem and we... our, problem is gattia- cheaper possible way...rj� Mr, Plummer; I_'ll tell you something, Mr..Manager, i think wrong. Two hundred and eiitty-two .thousand dollar 4read between bid of five hundred, something is wrong; rYfi� Mr. Odio: 0 It's a question of demand, Commissioner. Mr. Dawkiiaa: Yes, but Commissioner Plummer, we have three bids that, in goy opinion, Are in range. You got one for four twenty-nine; you got one --for four fmnety-eight and you got one for three ninety-six. Mr. Plummer: 'that's not my point. Commissioner, my point is that either those bid specs are not being read correctly, those, bid. specs are putting -out n something that makes a $262,000 spread difference. Mr. Odio: Commissioner, let me tell you... l Mr. Plummer: I just don't see it. Mayor Suarez: Which is roughly 40 percent. That is unusual. Mr. Plummer: That's a hell of a spread. Mayor Suarez: That kind of a range. Mr. Odio': Well, but what happens is. this companies receive the bids.; According to the backlog they have in their books, they determine, well, look, we don't need this work bad enough, let's put in a bid at:a higher price. If we get it, we make a lot of money. Mayor.Suarez: Well, that, you know, that's a fair description of the'industry but is that typical to have this much variation?. I mean, you're talking... Mr. Kay: Five out of the seven contractors that bid here have already had City project before. So they're familiar with our con... 5 Mayor Suarez: Who is this person that came in at six :fifty-eight? .Who, was the entity that came in at' six fifty-eightor'. Mr. Kay: Community Asphalt came in at six,- they've `never •.had.,.,a contract''with` the'City.before,'no. Mayor Suarez: They don"t know that we're cheap? Mr." Kay: What the Manager` is saying` is 'true. It's 'just a mat'ter'of how bad,; they 'want the work., Mayor'Suarez: You're satisfied''we had enough bids. We have quite a few.t2iat' } are clustered around a figure, that's fine with me. Commissioners, you. want < to move to tabulate? Mr. Odio: Let me clarify something This is a, set aside. work so .they far; minorities and they could have figured 'that they wouldn't get it .anyway 'so S the put in a bid at a higher y P B Price.:. , Mayor Suarez: And they're not. minority? Mr. Odio: That's right. Could be that. Mayor Suarez: Do you want to move it? } Mrs. Kennedy:- Move to tabulate:` Mr: Dawkinst, Move it - second move it. a srat w a Mayor Suarez: Moved 'and seconded:` Call -the roll:,�� THE PARAMETERS OF THE HEREINAEOVE MOTION ARE . CO�iTAINEA AND FORMAL'IZED'IN MOTION '89-344. J�1:. y 4 i ..4, _,.�. fti r •7 - .jY�wi►NiiiiiYi`1Yw.r .i`�i1�—NiiYifiii�f--�i...�-----iiii— ----------Mii.ii— — — - - - — ll. FIRST MApING ORDINANCE: Amend Code Section 54�100 Allow for t construction and location of guard houses in dedicated right-of=way. = ------mow.------ ..------------�—-------- -- ii-i�+..—.rri�i.r�i+ Mayor Suares: Thirty-seven. Mr. City Attorney. t Yi 1 Mr. Fernandes: Yes, this is the last item and this you instructed me to bring back to you. An ordinance amending that code provision that would aliow.tha building of a guard house on public right-of-way. ji Mayor Suarez: That doesn't imply that we're necessarily going to place -any, 3 just that we would have an ordinance that would permit it. Mr. Fernandez: It would be permissible, right, correctly. Mayor Suarez: You know, do not to... Mr. Fernandez: And you have, in fact, already authorized at last time around, contingent on this ordinance becoming effective to the citizens of Belle Meade Island that they should go for a special taxing district. Mayor Suarez: Public Works not too excited about it and Police Department not too excited about it. Is that what I feel coming here? Mr. Jim Kay: No, we're not objecting to anything, we're just, I think, between first and second reading there might be some modifications. here.,.. Mr. Fernandez: Yes. Mr. Kay: to.some of the language to include such things as considerations, of factors of.safety and'liability and accessibility and that kind of'thing. Mr. Fernandez: Yes, and to make sure that we include also in the._body of the ordinance the input from the Solid Waste Department and.the Police Department which right now, in the first reading, it didn't make it into the ordinance`'! but before second reading... Mayor, Suarez: Do you want to do it by second reading and -it'.11 still be insubstantialenoughto act... Mr. Fernandez: Yes, no, it would not be substantial changes,,, it, would just t Mayor Suarez: Lieutenant, is that satisfy your concerns? Lt. Longueira: Well, not really, because we still feel it creates a problemm ® for us.be.cause once: they start erecting these and they put.a.body. in it, they're going to create situations that are only going to... Mr. Plummer: Wait a minute, wait a minute, what are you doing about putting # bodies in what? r Lt. Longueira= That's only for your business. It's going to createumore.ofa service demand on us to come and resolve any issues „around these guardhouses' 3� that are in the public right-of-way. And unless some real defined guidelines_: j' are given on what action they can, take and .what you want, us; to do :if ;we called: out there, we've ,got a problem with. it , because . , �}S Mr.. Plummer: How.; about•:. less .'calls ' for service of :-.burglars and,;oxi►er ixe:ns � � �� . that are :in the neighborhood?- �ng o r a possibility;. Lt Lo u i a: That ! s Mx. Plummer: Did we not indicate when we said that we were sending: :this`over:: f for tha : change . is the, ordinanco_, that : it, in : no:, way, volt� this}itYs- Q�rd,p' be :put In the, middla:of the street nor will there by any arms to deter Qr`sigw{+ dowin the traffic. That if they put a stop sign, they probably, have- $ But , the.• on1y thing thi4 Buerd.:;house,,.woµid', he .used :for its;` for �az� 'to µ3�4' mote the license to numbers as o out and the, license to nu sber�+ ` th4t F'c ,i y S g S , - k e { 3t c43nJ l.L r+.pro A � �I 4 : _ 2 r F ( 1; :'.,ki- wr+Srtasr hryw f) `Frclvjdy/M;t in. They cannot stop them. You cannot as long as they're public attests, J:' Itow, Ift Morningaide, in gay point, they can because they own the streetab but In this particular area, it's got to be with that full understanding.: j Lt. ionguelra! Ott. : Mr. Plummer: ... that that guard house would serve no more purpose than to be able to register the tag numbers going in and coming out. That in no way, ao way, could we be a party to the stoppage of public using public right-of-way. Mayor Suarez: One thing that in the letter that you've given us, Walter,.that _ is taken care of clearly by the discussion at the last Commission meeting t don't know if you heard it - is it will be no issue of stacking because they will not be able to stop a car as envisioned. And maybe you ought to build that into the ordinance, if it's not already put in there. We're not talking about having any kind of a barrier to go with the guard house. Just a little guard house that the guy might look out over the officer or the security _ person, but there... =t. _ Mr. Plummer: Any.my understanding also was... Mayor Suarez: No barriers at all, no stacking issues. —_ Mr. Plummer: ... that it had to be on the side of the road. That it could not be in the center of the road. i Mayor Suarez: The other things that Walter mentions in here, some of them make is lot of sense, .about landscaping and some have been discussed already and I guess are going to be changed prior to second reading but you might want to add some.... Mr. Fernandez: By passage of this ordinance, you're not delegating to anyone any _of the authority ,which you still retain to ultimately approve or disapprove any concepts, any designs,,any issues, merely... —a Mayor Suarez: Well, we're. concerned about it - I guess the signal, we're G sending to people as to the kinds of things they're going to be,proposing and' I guess he wants to build; in more. criteria, more guidelines. Mr: Walter Pierce: I just want to make a brief statement, Mr. Mayor, because`. I_passed that out to you and I gave the City Attorney at -.copy of it as well and I will give copies of it to staff if .necessary.: My,problera_with _ I not ; here to say don't allow guard 'houses. I'm saying if it, s .the policy of the City, then. fine,' but let's not 'rush: into what is a major policy decision- in the planning area `that affects all of the City, not just my neighborhood:' Just . for the record, my name's Walter Pierce and I _ reside. at -684,;N.E.. ;, 75th Street, approximately one block from or two `blocks from two proposed .guard houses. I'm not dealing with that�issue.here. I'm just simply saying that if, you're going to have .guard houses, let's put some standards and criteria in that they don't I'm about ®8 there so" jump all over the place. concerned the. E. size. of them, 125 square feet is enough room almost to have a studio apartment` for a single person and the size of a structure like that in the right-of-way, I have a problem with. I've enumerated the, concerns .that ,I have; and,.there's._ several of my neighbors, sure, what. we would like. the Commission to do:today is not take any action on it today but defer ,it because I think if you,addreas; all of these issues with a thorough staff review and thorough.lconsideraiion by the Commission, that you will be making major changes to: it. i Mayor Suarez: It sounds like you're concerned about the global application of this -ordinance . and .thinking .that it might lead to all;, kinds of,;.indl-vIdui i problemsand,. individual. situations, not to. mention proliferation, of rhefaq kinds'it ,of'facilies. But, actually, the way this came about was bq a.ep�eiii�': ri�4� by ' 'think 'is request one neighborhood where, I the Commission on'`, record as haying that, this; guard house without a barrier„or any of., that op the h side of r *; h :. the road vrould make sense in that specific situation, but we need an Qrlinance � because we couldn't move on it because of the ri ht-of .,way B F << Mr Pierces Yes, and' if you were just dealing with that one particular I the house would not havQ .cQnuerns that I have. r} p d T j :� :, ., ,: • - '�iiF'f i h�y�1 -{4f°p`�}y !' < 5 �.� Jfi H. ,K. Mayor Suarez: Right, but, we need the oxdinanc,e... L �' ! ,fix + N FS a0 ty.A A � e — r Mr. pieres: But,thia ordinance applies globally throughout the City. i' Mayor Suarae: I know, but we need the ordinance to be able to s61v8 ttiat pattteulfr problem. ''• Mr. fierce: Yes, but I'm saying... 1 Mayor Suarett I don't think it's going to be a domino affect if that's What j you're concerned about. Mr. fierce: But I'm saying that a one month delay, Mr. Mayor, is not going to give the death knell to the Belle Meade Island guard house or to the Belle Meade guard house that's going to be proposed this afternoon, or to any other guard house. But it behooves you to do it thoroughly. Mayor Suarez: The big difference is that Belle Meade Island is an island and I just about every other island does have a little guard... they don't create much of an interference if put in the entrance to an island that I'm aware of. Mr. Fernandez: And nothing... Mr.. Pierce: Yes, but I would still hate to see any guard house be the catalyst to pass an ordinance that has serious ramifications Citywide... Mayor Suarez: I understand._ But I have a"feeling we're going to hear you... Mr. Pierce: . and believe me, you know, this may affect only Miami but it affects all of South Florida.for reality. Mayor Suarez: But I have a feeling we're going to hear from you when we,.talk about the Belle Meade one this.afternoon. Mr.. Pierce: .Oh, yes,, I.have.thoughts onthat matter and you will hear from me this afternoon, but this item, I'm ,saying, please don't take any action, send it to staff' let staff look at what 'we've written here and let's get some. Input from the` professional staff of the City who's charged with evaluating' , these kinds of issues. I mean, this is a planning issue and it's being done' without any input from any of your planning agencies. I just simply urge that you don't vote, that you defer it for'30 days, take a look at it seriously Mayor` Suarez: Your concerns really can be alleviated either by the global approach "or. the individual. approach, I don't think there's. any problem I —` don't think this. Commission is on record,' 4"by' any means, as saying that 'we. want' a bunch ofthese All :over the City at all. t ; Mr. Plummer: Well,. all.. we're doing here today is giving .this Commission the flexibility or latitude which we don't have today. �i Mayor Suarez: Exactly. Mr. Fernandez: Correct. Mr. Plummer: Any one of them that would apply according to the City Attorney,: would have to come before this Commission and demonstrate the need first. Second of all, the criteria would have to be what kind of guard house it'a going to look like and this Commission will reserve that right unto itself;' ° The problem is, today we don't have that flexibility and that's what's being asked for in this ordinance. f`'r iF Mr. Pierce: Mr. Plummer, with all due respect, sir. If you add spore' r r criteria, some minimum guidelines and standards already established in the` i ordinance, this Commission would be spared a'whole lot of hours of 4ebate.14f Mr. Fernandez: We have those. Lot me read to you what will be proposed,°Ui rf U —� Mr, Plummer: Watt, wait, 'make it simple. We got to: getout of here. 8steete}�. now and ' second reading, you two meet. Mayor Suarez: And we've also' taken care of . a cpuple of _your c�ti�pgrg�i becsu J'�Y Me told you about ptscking ,and we are. going to take caxe `of t�14' x latIl.Y w 4f " "issues and what else did we '`decide that we're 'going to..impz9ve 'framtiXA rtc �• . reading to second reading? .., aq t 1k3.i• � cK,fit� �• iJ t t t �}` " Mr► Fernabdet t We're going to be looking at the iisiue of itabdards IftCludibR that language Ill, it ar,d' elso included input from -Solid Waste and Police ` iapairttnel�t i Mayor $uareae You have 30 days before it goes into applitation._ I moan,, before it's!eveb "read on second reading. <. Mr, PiuftoersJust the flexibility, Mayor Suaress Yes, Mr. Fernandez: Correct. Mr. Plummers I move it. Mayor Suarez: Moved. Mrs. Kennedy: Second. Mayor Suarez: Second. Read the ordinance. Call the roll. AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED - AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTION 54-100 OF THE CODE OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA, AS AMENDED, TO ALLOW FOR. THE CONSTRUCTION AND LOCATION OF GUARD HOUSES IN THE DEDICATED RIGHT-OF-WAY; PROVIDING FOR A REPEALER 's PROVISION AND A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE. Was- introduced by Commissioner Plummer and secoaded by Coa�nissioner Kennedy and was passed on its first reading by title by the following vote:, t AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. ..,,Commissioner Rosario Kennedy t Commissioner Miller Dawkins j Mayor Xavier L. Suarez NOES: None`. } 'ABSENT: Vice Mayor Victor-De:Yurre 1 The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and; t j; announced that -copies were -available ;to;the members of the City Commission and to the public. THEREUPON THE CITY COMMISSION WENT INTO RECESS AT 12:01:<P.M. AND RECONVENED ,AT 2:21,,P.M., WITH ALL, MEMBERS, OF. THE :CITY COMMISSION FOUND TO HE PRESENT; — ' EXCEPT COMMISSIONER DAWKINS. _.. , r r .t�.a; 1 .Y 1 1 ��.��• 24, ! h{ tr ti t i ; J � 3 r ��\ b f• Ir.rr..lblr�.�i.�i�rrri`_. •- ..`'-• +. +.rrY..irrrrrrrrrrrrrr�rr-r----------rrrrrMrr�rr�-.-•..•- 18. A. DISCUSS AND TEMPORARILY TABLE FOR FURTHER INFORMATION PROPOSED EMERGENCY ORDINANCE establishing two new special revenue funds: (i) Summer Youth Employment and Training Program, FY 189/JTPA II-B", and (ii) "DHRS/Entrant Assistance, FY 189" - allocating funds from the South Florida Training Consortium. B. TABLEPROPOSED RESOLUTION ALLOCATING $138,600 TO BELAFONTE TACOLCY CENTER, INC. - for operation of the dropout prevention component of the FY 189 JTPA title iI-B Summer Youth Employment and Training Program (See labels 25 and 26). Mayor Suarez: We're up to 38. Emergency ordinance, Summer Youth Employment and Training Program, FY 189, JTPA, (Job Training Partnership Act) 11-b. Mr. Odio: This is to receive a grant of $895,432. Mayor Suarez: Thirty-eight, emergency ordinance on the JTPA grant. If _ there's no problems with this, I presume no one's here to be heard on this item.- If they're here to be heard on this item.... Mr. Odio: To receive a grant... Mayor Suarez: Please come forward. Director Castaneda, Ivy Kearson, are we OK on this? Everybody? Mr. Plummer: This is all federal money? Mr. Ivy Kearson: Yes. - Mr. Plummer: All federal money? Mr. Ivy Kearson: Yes. Mr. Plummer: OK. Mayor Suarez: I'll entertain a ... Mr. Plummer: Now, what... let me ask this question. How many youths will this server Mr. Ivy Kearson: Seven hundred and ninety-nine. =i i Mr. Plummer: All right, where are those youths going to be used? Mr. Kearson: We're going to place those kids throughout the City of Miami, a City of Miami departments and other non profit agencies in.the City of Miami.. Mr. Plummer: I'm not buying that. I want a breakdown. How many are going to non profit agencies and how many are going to be used in the City? Mr. Kearson: We could provide that. >; Mr. Plummer:. Well,:I want it now, I want it before I vote on this. Remember what happened last year? You guys thought I'd forget..,. j Mayor Suarez: And if it's the same as lash year,. give 'us a -break down -for. last year. { i Mr. Plummer: That's exactly correct and... Ms. Francena Brooks: We can, Yes...h A Mr..Plummer: ... the breakdown they first gave us we didn't like. and wp Nould: not accept. Mr. Mayor, I move that this item be deferred until they;giv¢',us —; breakdown._ 7{1n r Mayor Suarez The _item is tabled for the moment. Hopefully, we oen het — done then we won't have to defer it altogether. Item 39" allacating.�: 70 3 . •.>iRi.rJnSvn:Yw.tiws+ �}�tq�r.��%.kH C_K,o 3 ;. Nr. Plummer: The name. !labor. guarea: ... a hundred and thirty-eight special revenue fund. Balbe 1 Ming, item is tabled. NOTE FOR THE RECORDS At this point,, item 34 was temporarily. tabled also. 19. EMERGENCY ORDINANCE: Amend Ordinance 10521 as follows: (a) appropriate $50,000 to "Citywide Park Equipment" (No. 331339); (b) appropriate $75,000 to "Virginia Key Park Development -Phase I" (No. 331440)1 increase appropriations for "Citywide Neighborhood Park Renovations" _ (No. 331303); (d) identify source of funding for the "Athalie Range Park - Pool Replacement" (No. 331348). t_ Mayor Suarez: Item 40, emergency ordinance. Mr. Plummer: I move it. Mrs. Kennedy: Second - Mayor Suarez: Citywide .Vita Course renovations. Moved and seconded.;. Any, = discussion? Read the ordinance. .-Mr. Jorge :Fernandez:..,You need 4/5th votes on this ordinance. - Mr. Plummer: There's four here. THEREUPON,, THE CITY -ATTORNEY READ THE ORDINANCE INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD, BY TITLE;:ONLY. , = Mr. Fernandez: Two votes. Mr. Plummer: Rosario's got to .come back, it!s 4/5ths. = Mrs.:Kennedy: I'm with you, I'm here. Mr. Fernandez: Four -fifth. �—� Mayor Suarez: Call the roll. AT THIS POINT, THE CITY CLERK BEGINS TO CALL THE ROLL. NOTE FOR THE RECORD. Commissioner.Dawkins entered', the meeting at;.; 2:24 p.m, Mayor Suarez: I was,just going to say, flag this for Commissioner Dawkins` Mr. Dawkins: Hold it;1 Hald„itt.Hold itl.what:.are we doing here.,now?�' i — Mr. Plummer.: Item 40,. Mayor.. Suarez: I was: going to- say ;, if. you,:want4d to rec9Asider, r:QaonsWer. Mr. Dat+k ns:..Yes, I _got A lot ,to., s.ay, item, is. this?; ,What Mayor $uerer: Forty , t=s s "S -- 4, f; ' ra hawitifist Forty? No. mayor Sdarets withhold the roll call, first and second, let's see if the Commissioner wants to... Mr. bawkina: Ve will reapportion nothing from Range Park. We don't halos efiough, out theto now without taking something from it, OK? Now, let's find, - we do used the bath house at Virginia Key. So, you all find somewhere else to 'got the money. Mr. Plumm6rt Valli let me ask a question, because maybe I misunderstood. - My understanding is that this was a prefab building which you were going, to put there and instead of, you are going to put that in Virginia Key and-build'a permanent structure at Athalie Range Park, which they'd be better off. - Mr. Albert Ruder: Right, right, that is the correct... — Mr.Plummer: Do' I' understand that correct? - Mr. Ruder: Yes, it is. - Mr. Plummer: OK. Mr. Dawkins: All right, well why are you deleting $75,000? _ 1 Mr. Plummer: Because the permanent is in the original construction of the new, stuff. Mr. Ruder: We were able to incorporate a permanent bathroom.... Mr. Odio: The permanent one went into the bid of the new pool that we are building there, that's why. i Mrs. Kennedy: The artist had incorporated the bathrooms.'.. —� Mr. Plummer: Somebody's not explaining things around here very well'. .I — � t vers e undrtood i y: _ Mr. Odio:' -We bided the pool,' 43,000,000 'and' the new structure' is 'in that, 'so: we `took `the`' `money'"that was previously allocated -far `that and", built a 'bath`' _ 'house on Virginia Key. j �Mr.°Ruder: We, have a picture'here,'if you want'to Mr. Dawkins: OK, no, no, I'll tell you what. I wish my fellow Commissioners. would-do'this for me i. reconsider and pass this motion only with the specific. `. _ instructions to the Manager that if at any time anything that is supposed to be'put-at Range Park is short $75,000, you find it., Mr. Plummer: Well, let me'just, for my edification, what'is the new permanent structure adding to the cost of that construction job that you are putting_ there as a permanent basis, as opposed to the $75,000? Mr. Ruder- It's very nominal,` the design work was very nominal,,we,caught-.4it at the right time when they were able -to incorporate it ---for about maybe a couple thousand dollars and the structure itself from... I'm not sure...` we have the' final' figures -in that, but it's, going to: be a lot less, but''. it is going to be, as you say, a more permanent structure, thatIa-going to,be"a part {,1 — of the new building And... . `in - -Mayor -Suarez: =But the Commissioner "is sa if we. Y Y B �h y 1 7Yli �S�,�Uti y Mr.- Dawkins: If this:.: I aP'p=TI 'r Ma or= Suarez: ,;f $ y 'have a shortfall of 75; 000 a result oi► f this, - _' ; otherWise,`for Range Park; the`Commiasion agrees to`make'up.,. s `� Mr. Ruder: We have no ioblems�' OK i f ins. _ � •? ' t ,`" " y�' zx Mayor Hµarez: He's sat really asking, you,; ha Ja asking- the �GQqifnt4s W 4 h y�4.,zyt fi�+G f � lyys iv Mh�i. ..d - - jor Mri Davkinst OK, if you had a structure, as you MAY you had, and structure'was due to be placed on Virginia Key, as you say it was, OX? do you used, I mean, that ttructure would have cost how much? Mr. Ruder t I really don't Have that figure. I could find out for you. me. Dawkins Bell than how do you know you need $75,000 more? What you _ should need is the difference between what that structure would have cost .and whatever the total cost is. c Mr. Ruder: If I'could just explain it this way. is Virginia Key, we now huge portable, bathrooms. They are costing us about $25,000 a year to rent'. Besides that cost to the City, it is obviously an inconvenience to have portable bathrooms because of the problem in upkeeping them and everything. Mr. Dawkinst All right, let me ask a question. I'll ask one question and I'll be finished with this, OK? Why is it you can't take $75,000 from Bayfront Park. Why do you got to take $75,000 from Range Park? Now, explain that to me. Mayor Suarez: Mr. Manager? Mrs. Kennedy: Because it is for capital improvements. ! Mr. Plummer: Let me ask a more important question. I don't... i Mr. Dawkins: Well, what's more important, J.L., than my understanding something. Mr. Plummer: Oh, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Mr. Dawkins: OK, thank you. Mayor Suarez: I think he meant the more all encompassing question. Now, Mr. Manager... Mr. Plummer: I don't think there is a sewage line down there. Mayor Suarez: ..: what; is'the answer? It sounds like there is a"very simple answer, but we needed to get it from staff. He wants to hear it from _staff,- c not from another Commissioner. — Mr. OdYo: The answer is, we are getting a better •facility" at Athalie,.Range' than was previously designed. We are buying a brand new pool for $3,000,000. ' — Mr. Dawkins: That's not what I asked you. Mayor Suarez: You are saying we don't need to spend it. ® Mr. Dawkins What I am saying to you, sir, is why take the money from Range Park? Mr.Odiov Because we really haven't taken any money from Range Park, we'have added moneyto Ran a Park. What the are doing is this is.an a " B Y 6 , appropriation. We had purchased this portable for Athalie Range with your authorization. Mr. Plummer: !It's not portable, it's -prefab. Mr., Odio: Or 'the prefab. We had purchased that. When the pool was approved, ". the brand new pool was approved, we managed to put ,a`permanent :bathroom"�sr! facility in there, so -what we `are asking your permission is =to` trantiefer 'this prefab to Virginia Beach. The money's already been appropriated, wba.ra y►4a►rV '�� just transferring appropriatioasr We don't need the.p refab at .Athal`e Range. t 'i, Mayor Suarez: Let's build ia,a'requirement or a proviso -.in the motion thax�i by any chance Athalie Range has a shortfall'of .$75,000, we 'will re no rlfi 'u Hr. Dawkins s' OK, let • me for my saneness •,read :what : I have in f acQnt of �a, Appropriations by reappropriating $50,000 from, the project 9ntit�et�i money'.: arom now, ;the Citywide Vitaeourse:-" Reagvatioz� °Prujoct, ts� tho �pA# entitled. "Cit ide -Park B ui~�` R _ Yw 9 pment and reappropxiatiaag.S75,QyA0 fr�Pm �h�► entitled, Athalie Range Rehabilitation Project Co the; pr��Bct e�� .� a ^L. ��;fib ••531. �k'. x e i i r Virginia Roy Park, Phase I, increasing appropriations to the project entitled, citywide Neighborhood Park Renovations, in the amount of $10,000 from interest +earnings, from Capital Improvement Funds, and by identifying the source -of funding for the project entitled, Athalie Range Park Pool Replacement: Now you tell me you already have a bathroom facility. Novo you tell me you don't have one. Nov, you are telling me you are taking one from here because you already had one, but in the legislation is doesn't say that, Mr. Manager+ - Mr. Odio: Let me may, what we are doing in the legislation is legalising the move of the prefab facility. You authorised us to buy one for Athalie Range, so we appropriated funds in the Athalie Range Renovation Project. Now, we don't need that prefab, because we are building a permanent facility and we ask your permission to transfer that prefab facility to Virginia Beach and we have to do these legal transfers here. Mayor Suarez: No, not the facility itself, the funds needed for the facility. Mr. Odio: It is the funds that have to be reallocated... Mayor Suarez: And you are saying that they don't need it, so... Mr. Odio: ... so that we can pay. Mayor Suarez: ... if they do need it later, we'll put a proviso in that they , _ have to reinstate $75,000. ' Mrs. Kennedy: Plus this ordinance also allows us to repair Shenanodoah Park's roof. Mr. Ruder: Right. - Mr. Plummer:. No, not this ordinance. This ordinance only speaks to the pool'. =f Mrs. Kennedy: No, this is part of this ordinance. Mr. Ruder: Yes, that is part-of.the ordinance, $10,000 to repair that roof. There's four parts'to the ordinance.- Mrs. Kennedy: Right, which is in badly need of repairs. Mr: Dawkins: I have no problem with what you repair. I will say again, MY. only problem is you in the ghetto at Range Park taking $75 000 instead of Y P � Y B g ► 6 , � taking .it from any other place, that's my only problem, and then you justifying it... _. Mr. Odio: But, Commissioner... Mr. Dawkins: ... with something that I don't accept. I mean, that's fine, I e mean, I have no problem with it.; 's= Mr. Odio: When the were y putting the prefab bathroom over there, the Commission ordered. us. to put the prefab, you authorized that. Now you are telling the committee that.you're getting an Olympic sized pool with all the facilities, including permanent facilities. #_ Mr. Dawkins: Only because we went out and sold... no, wait, Mr. Manager, 4+' 7 don't have the community think thatweare benevolent and that we are giving: Range Park a pool. We went out and sold bonds, we got money 'from.the Sunshine` Park Fund in:order to build the pool, OK? Mr. Odio: That's correct, that's .correct, but.you are giving them more than_ $75,000, is what I'm saying, to that Athalie Range Park, we are: putting a $3,000,000 facility in there now..k,� Mr. Dawkins:. You are putting a $3,000,000 facility there because ae quit out'; and got money from the Sunshine Fund and we only went out and got, monay for } ._ the Sunshine Fund ;Park is because w r+Try you .had .done so;. ch., $ayfront Far�C,��►e x 'j decided to do something for.the�inner-city parkin Mr. Odio: That '*.._,correct.,. Commissioner;, , ao therefore; don subtracting $75,000 from Athalie Range; .is what -I am trying to MrA Dawkins: OK, the project has passed, I vote no, let it go: Mayor Suarems the second. Call the roll. Complete the roll the first time, and then tall Me. Hirsit Thank you, Mr. Mayor. AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED - AN EMERGENCY ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTION 1 OF ORDINANCE NO. 10521, AS AMENDED , ADOPTED NOVEMBER 17, 1988. THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS APPROPRIATIONS ORDINANCE, AS - FOLLOWS: BY REAPPROPRIATING $50,000 FROM THE PROJECT -' ENTITLED "CITYWIDE VITA COURSE RENOVATIONS" PROJECT NO. 331308 TO THE PROJECT ENTITLED "CITYWIDE PARK EQUIPMENT" PROJECT NO. 331339, BY REAPPROPRIATING $75,000 FROM THE PROJECT ENTITLED "ATHALIE RANGE PARK _ REHABILITATION" PROJECT NO. 331070 TO THE PROJECT ENTITLED "VIRGINIA KEY PARK DEVELOPMENT - PHASE I" PROJECT NO. 331044, BY INCREASING APPROPRIATIONS TO THE PROJECT ENTITLED "CITYWIDE NEIGBORHOOD PARK RENOVATIONS" PROJECT NO. 331303 IN THE AMOUNT OF 410,000 FROM INTEREST EARNINGS FROM CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUNDS AND BY IDENTIFYING THE SOURCE OF FUNDING FOR THE PROJECT ENTITLED "ATHALIE RANGE PARK - POOL REPLACEMENT" PROJECT NO. 331348; CONTAINING A REPEALER PROVISION AND A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE. Was introduced by Commissioner Plummer and seconded by Commissioner Kennedy, for adoption as an emergency measure and dispensing` with the requirement ofreadingsame on two separate days, which was agreed' to' by the following vote: AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Commissioner Rosario Kennedy ., Vice Mayor Victor De Yurre Mayor Xavier L. Suarez - .- 3F NOES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins ti i ABSENT:" None. S COMMENTS MADE DURING FIRST ROLL CALL:: 4; Mr. Plummer: I accept the amendment offered by my colleague and vote yes. Mr'. Dawkins: Not in disagreement with.what's being done, but in disagreement. with the way.it's being done, I vote no.. Whereupon the Commission on motion of Commissioner Plummer and seconded` a by Commissioner Kennedy, adopted said ordinance by'the following vote:. AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Commissioner Rosario Kennedy Vice Mayor Victor De Yurre Mayor Xavier L. Suarez i s> NOESs Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins ABSENT: None. SAID ORDINANCE WAS 'DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO.'10566. _ c: 1. xis The City .Attorney read the ordinance into: the 'publ:ic.;record; aid announced. that copies were, available to the members, of the: City Coiiiiini", 041ARA ` k` to the public! Mr., Plunpuer.s Mr, Manager, prior to this afternoon's talk about bonds, I`would like, I'm sure you can pull immediately out of the com titer, `3 Would like, t r,' `'t P,; o have a fiat of all of the outstanding, bonds .that this City presently hal3 hgW':k ` long they have to' rub` and how much wa are paying annually" on .theseonds,':; like that this afternoon before any discussion on any other bond$. Thaak:po, ixwµ 7X'+� f ` - y 8. S IO. A) SUPPORT CONCEPT OF LOCATING A DOWNTOWN AREA. $) SUPPORT CONCEPT OF TAX INCREMENT construct and develop Performing publielprivats venture. �..:.......... PERFORMING ARTS CENTER COMPLEX 19 FINANCING as funding mechanism to Arts Complex Pursue joint C) ENCOURAGE PERFORMING ARTS TRUST TO RECOGNIZE GUSMAN CULTURAL CENTER AND OLYMPIA BUILDING AS IMPORTANT COMPONENTS IN THIS PROACT. ------ ----------------------------------------------------------- -- Mayor Suarez: OK, we have a full Commission to deal with Performing Arts Complex issue and our representative on the Trust that has been misnamed a Trust, but that's another issue, because it is really an advisory committee.. - Mr. Plummer: What number? Mayor Suarez: It's Commissioner Kennedy, maybe you ought to get a introductory statement from her. And then I have, because of ,many negotiations over a Performing Arts facility, have submitted to each of the Commissioners three alternatives that seemed about the only three things that we could do, other than simply outright reject the idea of Performing Arts facility, which is always an alternative and this is being done by the way, in deference to Commissioner Dusseau who is here and who made proposed changes in one of the three alternatives which are quite acceptable to me as the drafter of those resolutions, but Commissioner Kennedy wants to make a statement of where we are, possibly. firs. Kennedy: It's crucial that the City today adopt a resolution, if indeed we are serious, which I think we are in support of a downtown Performing. Arts. �i Center. Every major City in America has a Performing Arts Center and while Miami's size and demographics have allowed us to claim some cultural claim in r a; the State this advantage is going to erode very quickly if other -art .groups -� find that other facilities in other parts of the State, so it .is .,also very important, Mr. Mayor and members of this Commission, that the site that -we j choose be a catalyst for . the entire area and . we have to be very 'careful ,in choosing, so there are lots of presentations that I believe that Mr. Dusseau` ' wants to talk about a site that he has. {_ r `d{ F. Mayor..Suarez:. Commissioner, before you tell us about the river site, let me. briefly, outline the three alternative resolutions. One would .call,, for.,, City land somewhere around.Biscayne Boulevard and.specifically.the bay,,.to,be,,used< Y for Performing. Arts .complex. . Another .one would do: the same ,thing, .:but,,only forgone component, keeping in mind that Miami Beach seems to have.a proposal for one major component and so it would only.call.for.ons major component.to i be in a City owned.park.or facility. The third.of the three 'alternatives' that I presented would contemplate using,. andthis is the one that is applicable'to your idea and to Allen Morris' idea in his property, using. privately.` owned land that could be acquired through one of many financing' mechanisms: that would typically use tax increment financing, so those. are 'the three alternatives,` One is City land for all components, the other one; is City land for one component, one major component, the other one is privately owned land to be acquired, through tax increment financing, again presumably foi.all the components, but it doesn't have to be. And those are the three alternatives; I guess the fourth alternative is to say that we are not really going -to make City, land available, or City resources or otherwise, get, too invoavad in,a �< �., Performin .Arts complex and that's always a g p y possibility. Beyond. that, I'.can ,t. .K think.of, an other alternatives that we left out... What I wanted to do As;.,. y to,, .some direction - to Commissioner Kennedy_ and to the , extent that get,;' involved.in negotiating with County and State representativeo.and aayoaQ,else� h'ds like to have, some direction'..too . from the Commission.. ConagsiJJ ssionar Dusseau,. do you ,want .to. address. why. you'd like: to include, its .additlpn tot '2a° bay, as a . possiblo site, for .`a , tax increment , district:, yAu wo41dt i%g Includethe' river: site, ,which is presently, owned by,many,_.'many own s, .0mangy them, .Florida Power and Light through a; subsidiary: called .I�lanco ands ,lp��te3K� you've got, your friendly executive director of the ,Downtown Dever qn 7 Authority to. help you with �$ _ Mr. Plummer:' Who said he was.triendly? a " t. 76 p♦np i Mr. Charles Dusseau: If I may. Thank you Mr. Mayor and thank you Commissioners for having me here this afternoon. I'm going to be very brief, I think I'm in the Mayor's parking spot out front, so I want to get out of here quickly before somebody tows my car away. Mrs. Kennedy: That's all right, he is not going anywherel Mr. Plummers You were in his spot until they just towed your car, don't worry about itl Magnum Towing said they have a bill for you. - Mr. Dusseau: Good No, what I have here, is I am really not necessarily advocating any specific site. What I'm here to do is to reinforce what - Commissioner Kennedy just said and that is that I think we need to do - something. Dade County, Miami has been kicking this issue on Performing Arts Center for officially, they've been doing it for ten years. It has been = somebody's dream probably for a lot longer, but for officially, it'* been kicked around for ten years. There certainly is some urgency to this. As Commissioner Kennedy points out, every major city of any import at all has - their Performing Arts Center. There are several cites in the State of Florida that have Performing Arts Centers who don't have any troops to play in them. We have several troops, whether it's symphony, or ballet troop or whatever, -_ that are ready to perform in whatever kind of facility that we can construct. My point is that we need to move on something and move on it quickly. My - concern was only that we're going to build a Performing Arts Center where' it is financially feasible to do so and that's the key. There are probably four components, definitely four components in any kind of construction costs', - State, private donations, the City and the County. Unless we can find money - - from all four of those sources, the whole deal is going to fall apart. I want - to commend the City of Miami Beach for their efforts in trying to- do something, I want to commend Allen Morris, I want to commend this Commission for the resolution they previously passed in support of this whole concept. The point is, is that we need to move quickly and need to move on several -1 fronts, whether it is the Allen Morris site, whether it is the river, whether f it is on Biscayne, on the bay, whatever. I, first of all think it should be downtown and I think it should beaccessibleby transit, other than that there is a whole other series of things you can say that are positives or negatives. about any of the particular sites, but those things 'I think that` are c' necessary, we need financing, it needs to be close to transit, and I think it.- should be downtown, the whole thing, all three facilities. That's.not to.say that we 'shouldn't have things in Miami Beach; we already do and those should be improved to the best of our' ability, but we need to :move forward -!,on . something. What I have done with this is not to preclude any downtown sites, but to include other potential downtown sites, that's what the changes in the' wording to your alternative three, the -three alternative resolutions which you Nl- have on your agenda. I've changed some words, I've taken a few things out, putting a few words in and all it says is that we shouldn't preclude anything that is financially feasible to do from being studied at this point. Two weeks ago, we passed unanimously at the County a resolution asking staff to ® look into the possibility of studying the'riverside site,'FPL site, whatever. - you want to call it, to use that facility with tax increment financing to - build something down there. I've also given you some preliminary numbers And these certainly aren't wholly precise, there is probably a little bit of play in them, but there are some numbers to just give you an idea. I'm not going to get into them, because as I say, I just wanted them to show that there=are other possible financial ways of building something besides the mixed use site which the Allen Morris people are working on. Whichever is the .most 1.. financially feasible, I think_ that is what we should go with. There"'needs to _a be more "fine tuning on the Allen Morris `site, I understand` there' area new..' numbers that have come out of that, I'd like to see those, but this just shows that with a certain amount -of square footage being built`�down °there, "that the $a- Increment, on a 'piece of land that I" think' if' you talk to, anybody; tell 'you, there' is not going to be anything built, on there for ' a'ggoIloug, � `time for various reasons,unless there is some sort of 'critical mass,soma'x sort of impetus from the public sector probably, to create the --necessary.- �' � environment, `so 'that other private sector people' can build: ;So what. ask Is' that you' look at my modifications to.your 41ternitivo'-three and;'rthaty x' you consider the possibility, that's what this is, of just , -not,. anything' from your 'deliberations and' that 'we' 'do all work';jointly,- ha iCqurtty` a, `and the City 'and whomever-el"se; along with" the Trust ,that wa83�ereat'ed. f�rgm" ; ¢ County :resolution to move forward quickly and get something dome ,#u►d try `tp G; ;' get some kind of commitment out of the State yet this year and;thht;'s What should beworking toward. ` 'I thank you .for -this ropportuu. ity and if yo t vs► , , 77 r � ;4� P -. any questions about anything I've done, I would be happy to answer them, otherwist I'm going to go back to my zoning agenda back at the County. Mayor Luareze Thank you, Commissioner, as we discussed the other day, the s thing that always is a critical bridge to cross when you are dealing with tax Increment districts is whether in fact, you are going to induce private development or not by declaring it and then of course, the Manager and all the 1 rest of us also worry about the impact on future tax revenues, but the argument on the other side of that is that if you don't build something you are not going to have future tax revenues, so I guess there is no need to even worry about that. The question is, the threshold question then becomes as to the site that you are proposing, do we have any guarantees that anybody in the private sector In going to build anything of substantial size. We know that the FPL people have talked about reducing their building to be built to maybe a couple hundred thousand square feet. I think we calculated the other day that would produce no more than about $600,000 in tax increment which at best would bound out to $6,000,000, so we are not talking about a major component. We know some other developers own property there and would be considering _ doing things in that district and I think Vice Mayor De Yurre is going to tell us, as Allen Morris is going to tell us that in his lot if we include that as part of the Overtown/Park West tax increment district, assuming the Commission wanted to do it as a policy matter, that he might make some kind of a commitment to begin building a major private project, but again the Commission has to first bite the bullet and decide whether it is proper to use tax increment district for a Performing Arts Complex or not and we would be grappling with that. My own personal feeling is we could not do too much — stalling on that issue and if it became difficult to get a majority of my Commission or your Commission because of the State monies that are being held out for, presumably for use as early as the next two fiscal years and if there Is public land available, and if people are willing on their respective Commissions to make that available, we should not lose time in trying to move that forward in that fashion, but you know obviously the Commission might feel otherwise. Mr. Dusseau: If I may, my concern also is if we use tax increment financing, you are not taking money f rom other programs and putting it into something else and that's the key criteria we need to look at no matter what we doIntax increment, no matter where. Mrs. Kennedy: The taxes that would be added would be that diverted into a fund that ultimately would be used to either acquire the property or pay for - its operating cost. Mr. Plummer: Let me ask this question. The concept that is, being proposed, — is this going to be a City owned and operated? a Mr. Dusseau: Don't know. Mr. Plummer: Well, you don't know, ,but I think It is a very crucial question... Mr. Dusseau: We're not that far yet. Mr. Plummer: ... and I think we should learn the hard lesson from the Knight Center. That is a very serious situation. Mr. Odio: The discussions I have been part of have been always that the — Performing 'Art Trust, or somebody like that would operate it and this City.., xr f — Mr. Plummer: Well of course, you know my big concern is`not oul',the Cost of buildingthe facility' - . y and opening the front door, but who ' is going 'to take'' ; — care of the operating expenses on a,' well, let's call it a S200,boo <� ,00',Q facility? What? ,d Mr. Odioc And both the County has said it clearly in the, Performing Ardst� Trust that we will never be responsible for any operating.deficits;'or costs".., s { Plummer: Yes, but you are talking, and I'm using your figures here, the land value,' whichever you used pit on, just the land value alone $ �_ _ $77,0000000. Mr. Dusseau; For what? That's 34 acresyou are talking abont� T4'j4} ,' 1 p p ik Mt. P uisroer: It says here, current assessed +value . at $50 equate fo�it i Mr. Dusseeu:. That,is what the 40 acres is worth down there: Mr. Plumer: Oh, OC Mr. Dusseau: We're not going to buy 40 acres. We're just looking at the total tract, just looking at the total tract. Mr. Plummer: Well, what is proposed for the total cost to open the front door? Mr. Odio: Depends on what you build. If you build the three facilities, You. F are talking probably about $180,000,000, two hundred... Mr. Plummer: Mr. Manager, how can we sit here and vote on something when we don't know the full scope? !!r._ Dues Well, Commissioner, I think what _we are saying, what this resolution says it's time to study it, come back to this Commission, come back to the County Commission with something solid to vote on. We're not ready,to vote on anything yet, because we. don't have all the numbers, and that's the key to this is what can we.ffnanca and what I'm asking is let's not preclude any particular site from the analysis in getting down to whatever it is we eventually vote on. Yes, I think that just makes sense. Mr. Odio: And besides that, the City is limited in their participation and all. you would ,be voting on, not the total scope of the project, but are you _ willing tohave a tax increment district? or are you willing to give the land.up,in Bayfront Park or whatever? That's all the participation the City would have. Hr. Plummer: Let me simply. on the record first and foremost. Under, no circumstances,.will I. vote to, put anything east of the boulevard between Biscayne Boulevard and the water. We have paid dearly, for the FEC`'tract alone, we paid $23,000,000 to give the people of this community the view'of that -water. I cannot wader any circumstances vote -to put anything east of the boulevard: _ r Mr. Dawkins: ..Here's the second vote;no of anything east. V Mr. Plummer: And ,second,of all, at this particular time .with the financial condition of this City and excuse me, before you became a Commissioner, the } CountY - turned down. the Dupont Plaza, tax increment .of an $800,000,000 private; , project because of tax increment. I cannot, unless somebody can 'show me something„much, much to, the contrary, I, cannot vote for tax; increment. This City needs its revenue ae'the Mayor said, in reference many, many months ago; ® we can't afford it, so I'm just going on the record right up front. NONE! Mr.. Dusseau: I` agree. If we can't afford it, we shouldn't do it", so lets study it and do it quickly. ip Mr. Plummer: Well, let me also conclude, I am not so parochial that I have got to.have that in the City.of Miami._. Mr. Dawkins: I am. Mr. Plummer: ... land I fear that if we try to fight with Miami.Beach, I have no 1 problem:.if . it goes there.,i but I don't ,want the. Legislature to let the moneq,,¢o, out of Dade Cgunty, ,and that.; s what `might happen, so very `csareful that we cake ouxe, sure, we try,: tQ get t, but it firsif ix's no possible, ;ate, don't blocklami Be ch`�r,�¢bay� �L ,, wh9,_ha8 the same potQntial of doing`.`it. Mrs: 'Kenhedyf I agree. "s � Mr: • Plummerr: So I "think that's a fear. Mayor. uecsWell z S. ;; f iyou..:�� '.C4 jay M%`Srkfi`. u �n "kti rfi a, Y :7 x� A Mr, bawkinas Commissioner, i am deadly opposed to east of Biscayne 16uleward not opposed to tag i�scremeat' and I am par6chial. I do want it ft: the I amCity of Mimi. Mr. kluasner: I thought you said you i►ere going to put it in $a front Pa rk near the Amphitheitet? Mgt. Dawkins s That's City of Miami. Mrs. Kenriedys There we to again) If you can keep your heads and those about you are losing theirs. Mayor Suarozo I'm glad you said that because if Commissioner Plummer, if you exclude the possibility of using park land east of the boulevard and if you exolude the possibility of using a tax increment district, it is going to and up in Miami Beach or somewhere else. Mr. Plummers I don't agree with that. Mayor Suarez: Where else do you propose that we come up with land, Commissioner, if you don't do it by one of those two? Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, we own a tremendous amount of land in Park West that we have already bought, we gave one piece of it to the Arena, they are proposing another piece in the east of the Arena, how many square blocks,'Mr. Bailey do we own in Park West alone? How many square blocks do we own in Overtown that is already bought? - the one that the County'did for us on the quick take, of costing us $5,600,0001 You... Mr. Dawkins:But you see Commissioner Plummer, you're forgetting one thing. Mr: Plummer: Sir? Mr. Dawkins: That the establishment said the Arena wouldn't go in Overtown and it's been filled every night, so they don't want you to put an�''art compleX over: `there "because they are ` going to say it won't go and it will � be ` f illed — every night. Me-. Plummer:_ Well,` I'm saying do we not... Mr -.-Bailey, how many square' blocks does the' City own now in Park West? .r Mr. Baileys We own three, Commissioner. Mr. Plummer: We own three. Mr. Bailey: On the Park West side and we have six on Overtown... Mr. Plummer: Wait, let's just talk to the Park West. We own three fui'i block a. ® Mr. Bailey: But they are already bided out. They are under contract. The Arena is on `one and the other two constructions have started. Mr. Plummer: And we own no other property over there? Mr. Bailey: No other property in Park West that we have free and clear to use anything.. Mr..Plu6mer: All right, what do we have in,Overtown7 z} "r. Bailey: We have five blocks that have not started, on the construction, E3 but",`they 'are also under contract,' at least have a` com,initmen_t by>14 mptiipAY'q# Y 4 'this Commission to 'develop housizig ,on" those and we`cari oisl"j► develop housing.- those lots because, we used,some,of the ,bond fund money. We have four'bloca� r that"'we' got urban 'initiative` money for; we ""could per. ape 'do some mixed 4ae' k development. �x Mr. Plummer: How about where the Camillus House is supposed to gat�h ; X Mr, eatic y:{ 'Weil, you' know.:. S i.+ Mr. lFlummers ' I''m, kidding:;,�� nrl 'K t yiiA► , ,, t i 'i'��«� ut*.i Rnh`ned Mo r dont 'O into thatl That was this m ornio piaase B y: no, Mrs laileyt To answer, your question about Park West and I understand and I - we* glad to heal' Comissioner bn.eseau may that there was no specific site to mind OV66 though some were being recommended. Our department, at least I have sine* I've been here, have always considered the blocks between dth and loth Street and the Park West site, which is already on the tax increment, in case you fail on all others, that we could perhaps use that as a gateway to Park A - West and have a Performing Arts Center there with some other privets development that would generate tax increments. Mayor Suarezt Between Sth and 10th Street and what avenue, Herb? Mrs. Kennedy: Frontage on Biscayne Boulevard. j Mr. Baileys flight on Biscayne Boulevard, it's right on the front. Mrs. Kennedy: It has to have frontage on the boulevard, Mr. Mayor. Mr. Bailey: And that's already on the tax... - Mayor Suarez: But that is privately owned. Mr. Bailey: Well, you know everything over there is privately owned except what we've already bought and we had the option to do whatever we like under the State statutes. And even if you go to another district and... Mayor Suarez: Wait, wait, we don't have the option to do whatever we want with land that we don't own, Herb. Mr. Plummer: Well, but Mr. Mayor... Mr. Bailey: No, no, under the statutes, Mr. Mayor, we have the option,' now may not have the capability to do it, but we have the option •under the statutes, under tax increment district, to either.... we have absolute power to acquire it. - Mayor Suarez: Sure, if we can pay for the land. and if we can . pay for the; construction. Mr. Plummer: Well let's make another point. Is the Arena.on more than a. square block? Mr. Bailey:' It's on one block. Mr. Plummer:. OK, and for that even though we got taken -to the.cleaners, it was $6,000,000. You're saying $4,500,OQO, I still say $6,000,000. If we had to buy a block, it would be approximately that kind of cost. _ •: Mr. Baileys Well, you are going to have to buy a block regardless of where you go, it is just a matter of how you block it. Mr. Plummer: And tax increment is already there. Mr. Bailey: Well, you know, if you have a district, it doesn't scatter, but if you have a district, you'll have to buy the land, you don't own any districtiJ that you are going to establish and we also have the district -for which Ne- don't own the' land and the same rules apply, you just -have .to decide ^ whereyou._ want to put it. Mayor Suarez: Are the lots,. from 8th to loth Street shown in that map, afire „ � those the red oolo.red ones .right close: to the boulevard there? s; .,. L aFtf INAUDIBLE BACKGROUND COMMENTS NOT, ENTERED INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD. ' Mayor Suarez: OK ` Y , ,and hose aFe. privately owned. _ OK, CotsBnissiouear Kennedy, fY ' ,s r Mrs. Keinnedyi I:et me.say I think that before. we decide on the, tax increment,, which I happen to disagree, because I think the economic ,:episrOffs� �., to be fantastic, but ,we .need.: to ],iaten -:t4 : the ..Al;lett .t o ri P e � ax � �r -� 7 t x < r t ,f Y because s these is the 3rd and 4th Street corridor, - Thea you.-.caA haXA t$sYee. ;s Ot zuy x t 5�N` �. r{ 2 f •: Mr. Baileys Well, you are going to have to buy a block regardless of where you go, it is just a matter of how you block it. Mr. Plummer: And tax increment is already there. Mr. Bailey: Well, you know, if you have a district, it doesn't scatter, but if you have a district, you'll have to buy the land, you don't own any districtiJ that you are going to establish and we also have the district -for which Ne- don't own the' land and the same rules apply, you just -have .to decide ^ whereyou._ want to put it. Mayor Suarez: Are the lots,. from 8th to loth Street shown in that map, afire „ � those the red oolo.red ones .right close: to the boulevard there? s; .,. L aFtf INAUDIBLE BACKGROUND COMMENTS NOT, ENTERED INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD. ' Mayor Suarez: OK ` Y , ,and hose aFe. privately owned. _ OK, CotsBnissiouear Kennedy, fY ' ,s r Mrs. Keinnedyi I:et me.say I think that before. we decide on the, tax increment,, which I happen to disagree, because I think the economic ,:episrOffs� �., to be fantastic, but ,we .need.: to ],iaten -:t4 : the ..Al;lett .t o ri P e � ax � �r -� 7 t x < r t ,f Y because s these is the 3rd and 4th Street corridor, - Thea you.-.caA haXA t$sYee. ;s Ot zuy x t 5�N` �. r{ 2 f a� F You have the entertainment on one side, you have the education with Miami bide on the other and in the middle you have the Performing Arts Center. You can really create, wali, you can give a developer the air rights above and beyond it and create an investment corner that could very well rival $rickell Avenue and we used to hear that presentation. Mr. be Yurre: Well, we also have to keep in mind that and it that was brought up already, how this In going to be maintained as far as dollars and cents, Its operation, and you need something, and I think that's what Commissioner Kennedy is alluding to, you need something that will generate the income necessary to offset the losses that we know are going to exist with this type of Performing Arts Center, and in the Overtown you may not find a developer that is going to develop what they are proposing to do here, so we need to look at this as a whole package and see where it is feasible from that standpoint. Additionally, if we are talking about tax increment district$ Lord knows that it has been mentioned here time and time again, that you know, we are strapped for money. It's a difficult situation for us here in the City and the County also. However, my understanding is that part of these two City _ blocks don't pay any taxes, because one is a church and I think the Miami -Dade Community College has part of the land also, so really, we are not losing that much. Additionally, that land may not be developed for a heck of a long time, - so by the time that this is over and done with, like 20 years down the road and these bonds are paid, then we start receiving the income from the real _— estate taxes, so I don't think that by looking at this situation right here; from 3rd to Sth street, that we'd really be sacrificing that much as far as tax increment district is concerned, and again I think we have to be close to Biscayne Boulevard corridor in order to make it economically feasible with the additional projects are being proposed here to go along and supplement the Performing Arts Center. Mr. Dawkins: A prospective partner is Miami -Dade Community College. You just — talked in terms of maintenance, Miami -Dade has money and funds with which to do, a part .of the Performing Arts Complex and there we would be out of the maintenance of that because it is Miami -Dade Community College's responsibility,, but I didn't hear anyone here today say how we were going to — incorporate whatever Miami -Dade wants to do into this and what have you, so that should be another option. Mayor Suarez: .Yes, of all the options, the one that most ;fits, into .Miami- — Dade's plan:to,have a .small theater, a drama dance theater is obviously the Allen Morris one, because it is right close to that property and they have — agreed,,. Miami -Dade is proceeding with their plans to build that and they will — of course maintain it, perhaps one less headache as far .as maintaining. Commissioner Kennedy. Mrs. Kennedy: I was just going to add that another thing we need to consider -is a parking garage and we do have 1,400 ' parking spaces that would be made available to the Performing Arts Center. at $10,000 a space, you are talking about $40,000,OOO that the City can contribute. Mayor Suarez: Allen, why don't you at this point make pour presentation, as .briefly as possible, because I think the Commissioners. are aware of; the implications of tax increment districts and of course the desirability, of a Performing Arts Complex, Yes, Commissioner. Mr. Dues.eau: Mr. Mayor, if I may, I'll go back to my.meeting. I would just again ask that we just not preclude any' possibilities at, thia,point' time; 4 .in — and I would just like to offer, you know, our staff to work ,with your ataffw;tQ _ go, . through the ., numbers and just come up with something quickly; what _bee best numbers, are, working with Mr..Morrie and with whomever -false.. that..pealiy; wants to look at a mixed use site. I mean, we got to gel mgney,f rQm the ? private sector hares because. public sector doesn't.h.'ave iE right aow, so_ again, I.appreciate this opportunity,.. Mayor Suarez: Two,thinga before you Jeave, Commissioner, and I+:m`gQi to � i� T Mayor Suarez: Or public transportation... Mr. Dueseau: Or both. Mayor Suarez:. Right. Mr, Dusseau: Or both. Mayor Suarez: Right, locations and of course the one at the northeast end of - Bicentennial Park does fit that criteron and you also said on the river site, that you're very interested in the possibility because that is kind of... that's clearly within the slum and blighted definition of the State law for tax increment, of other public components there, not ruling outthe possibility that the City might some day want to cooperate in building either an exhibit facility or some other kind of component and of course that is a very exciting, area that somebody has assembled a large amount of acreage and ; it :would be very interesting to work with the private sector to put that together: it's a... Mr.,Dusseau: As it has.been said, it needs to be close to public transit, -if — anybody has. seen what is happening with the Heat games, and the usage that _ Peoplemover.and.Metrorail has been .incredible and wherever we can find :the money to do it, that's really my point, I think... Mayor Suarez: And°I'm glad you are flexible on sites, because it is wherever — 'we canfindthe money to do it, that we ought to build it as quickly as possible,:before we lose the endorsement and support of the State. —_ Mr. Plummer: Commissioner, let me ask you one question, a side question. We noticedthat the Metro Commission did in fact say"go ahead with the Metromover, up..to Omni: and.'downBrickell. Are° we now in a position to. assume that is = going -to -be done? - Mr..Dusseau: Oh, yes. -- Mr ::Pl,ummer::' And do you.have'..:. Mr.`Dusseau: We signed'a.contract with the Federal government saying we will ;? have !-that :operational in 57 months..- Mr. Plummer: 57 months? OK, that answers my question, thank you. Mr.:-Dusseau: All right, thank you very much. Mayor Suarez: Thank you,. Commissioner. Allen. Mr. -Allen. -Morris: Thank you, I'm Allen•Morris, 1000 Brickell.Avenue, As you know,",..the City. commissioned two private- reports, two private, consulting" reports to consider, the best .alternative for the ,community- about two years ago. One is ;the Keyser -Marston Plan. and the other was Touche-Ross report: Both ;of:.them considered all .the _available sites inthedowntown area and after considering them,.they recommended:the site between-3rd Street and, Sth.Strait• as.the;best, site,for the:,compunity for a couple,of.important.:reasons.•. One 'is the reason of rapid transit availability.: The Performing.Arts Center could to _ buIIt'rIght,at .a.PeopIsmover Station! so it would:be-available to'the people ofA. �. the ;community. .,.The'. other reason is, it is close' enough to the�._developmea�tj cor where -:private, development could: happen in conjunctiona�with tha Pa:rformiat', Arta center: and> because' of ,that it would provide:`,,private°-,money through ;the increment'. district to'"pay:'>for a .publdc community facility. These': boardas�a>re pictures f rom...:;,- they; ore -..nothing 'that we have generrand;. we ha3dh, aaottaiiang tan ' ` do ,with either one of the reports," they :were brought to` our .atteatiAnar«ft�► F theq had been" completed,.: but .these two pictures :over; here', are , fro:► ,tbepya�rr Maarastoan Plan " that recommended the site between Ord and'_, . seasons are "many. They include that."it, would.help make :the BaysI 1'xoiaa�► Sayside:w•.gpecialty .Center mor,e;:;succeaoful" : xt: will: help st ks the 'Ovartown%Park "West" area :and' moast importantly of all,` it 4►ii}l� ba' [ #g r� r� F 5 X'' v:i>sib7e .,identifiable ;place for; tho l'aetor-mias ,Arta:` CaAter fad the;"j;4►��t�r�; Y£F The y Downtown Development Authorit came." .ta, .us after tleee�atie% fgez` k . a.omple:ted : and asked us to evaluate ;=the r Par$sibill tY of }th4,aex'4�sy?X,ps a standpoint.'" We halve done this," ',welve datexs►lned thast#ud,ea ..y feasible, that the devslopme t`� of a 1'er o ming Arta' �enter,+an t,y—, ` tF T iu rx Sy lF 1��•a ' ^ F' r i } N 3 F ' _ 811� w feasible and what is needed at this time is for the City; to approve proceeding ahead to the next step. I'd like to draw your attention to the slides over here, just have four brief slides. The first is a. picture of Lincoln Center; This is as it exists now and with all of its beauty and all of its grandeur of being a world famous Performing Arts Center, it misses the component of having private development and the opportunity to raise money from private development. The next slide In how Lincoln Center was originally conceived. That's the 1928 design of Rockefeller Center that was to be the Performing Arts Center with the opera house in the middle of it. It was originally conceived to be the opportunity to pay for the opera house, the symphony hall.for New York with private development around it. Because of the Great Depression, that never happened and because of that, they had to go to plan B, which was Lincoln Center, which was not in the center of town. The next slide shown the reason that this is so important. Mayor Suarez: Allen, it may have been because of the Great Depression or because the City didn't do what we are going to do with you, if we were ever to accept your concept which is to say for us to get involved in a tax increment district, we have to have you sign on the dotted line that you are going to build a major private project there; in which case .we would have automatically by definition, the rest of that private development, but you know, for us to do it just in the hope that there would be a major private development would make no sense, you understand that. - I mean, we have been doing that with Olympia and York. Commissioner Plummer made reference to that. a little while ago, it was a billion dollar project which would produce, just from City taxes it would produce, City and County bondable taxes, it would lk th th produce $200,000,000, but you know, we go to Toronto, we to to em, ey show us their beautiful models and three dimensional models, like the one you just showed us, and you know, if they don't build it, we don't have any kind of revenues, we have no public component, and that's what .we would need from you, some kind of commitment. I'm sorry, I interrupted. Mr. Morris: The thing that makes this thing work is that the Performing,Arts Center becomes feasible because of the private development component and the reason.that the tax increment district is so critical is it .provides the least revenues and the tax revenues to help pay for this Performing Arts:.Center`. The last slide simply shows the reason why the. Keyser-Marston.:,Report recommended the site directly across from Bayside. The opportunities for —_ synergism are fabulous and the benefits to the community. are multifaceted. The Biscayne Boulevard address... Mayor Suarez: You have to bring the bureaucratic term of synergy into this, right? Go ahead. Mr. Morris: The Peoplemover, the Amphitheater across the street in Bayf root Park., would be integrated into the Performing Arts Center, together with the New World School of The Arts, like Julliard is. The Art Gallery could be a part of it. The Gusman Hall is also considered because it is so close';to,Jt, is to be a part of the financing of Gusman Hall was:.included in the Keyser- ® Marston Plan. The Miami Marina, the museum parking is existing parking we can use and achieve great economies, plus the fact that when you build the commercial development, you use the parking during the daytime and the Performing Arts facilities are used usually in the night time, so you get double use of the parking and it is twice as efficient. The restaurants that will be created and existing restaurants that will benefit from it, the church which is on the site, the Miami -Dade Community College, the,Bayfront-Park;>.the corporate, offices, the shopping, the Hotel: Convention< Centerinv.Bayside h: itself,, all are integrated with the . Performing Arts Center ; and�,,that "a ;.what makes private development work with this plan, .so I, am; happy. to`•answer =any ~ y questions that you have and I know, thereare other people here from ,the E community that also would like to express their interest in seeing this move - ahead, -but_ I would .leave it with you at this point to just say that,,,*at::w_ hr need in the approval of the City to proceed with this site .that was r; recommended. -by the City's,consultants, Keyser -Marston and :Touche-Ross and the 1r authorization to proceed, for staff to proceed to create the .tax increm9'at sr district, K,x Mayor Suarez; Thank you, Allen. You know what might `save;`us all fa:, lot of r ;F time, particularly since we have many, many other items' to go through t9d4X0 would ba : a,,reso,lution, I'm trying to hear what the Comm issioneis . are sapin we passed a resolution that we very much wanted a Performing�Art$.Faaility, ,e �', component thereof, downtown, including obviously- the riverand ,BayfrpAt, s�►d r ' `-��Y��` , ...--...,-�,-,- - ._ .-- _,-..-r,r-o.-......—..,,--r,—"r--Y- . — _ --'•s�--+.—ya�.+i•-.sr•—,r-i,-rQ..nf:.a'c--*e .�+n+�cnT.' ti.'. -- --- that a ffiajority of the Comaiaaion under the correct circumbtanteb *66 Milling to use tact increthent financing to secomplish that. I would vote for that. I would also vote for and think it's more realistic that wa would ;briiid aft6thing in the geheral area of downtown that would use public property, because you know, I just think that that is more viable. It's not to take lkway from your concept, so I offer those to the Commission as two alternatives, either one of which I would vote for, and if they wanted to cosmbins the two, that would be fine too. Otherwise, it just sort of dies -for r lack of interest, you know, and... Mr: Morris: Apparently my speech ran everyone offt Mayor Suarez: You have a way with words. Mr. De Yurre: Mr. Mayor. Mayor Suarez: Mr. Vice Mayor. Mr. De Yurre: I think that if we are committed to a Performing Arts Center, you know, I'd hate to get into a situation pretty much like, you know, Park West/Overtown that's been dragging on for years, or even the Administration Building that's been dragging on for years. If we are really going to commit to something like this, then we should take the steps necessary to make ,it'go right from the beginning so that we can expedite this process and -I would like to -know what is needed from the City of Miami at the optimum to move this°as quickly as possible and we go with it if we are committed to doing this downtown. Mayor Suarez: Assuming that and assuming three of us feel that way. and I':ve heard -you say that and I think I've heard a couple of other Commissioners: say that, are .you willing to commit, if we can't do it by tax increment financing, some public land and if so, where? - because I've said that I support Bicentennial, I've said that I support Watson Island.°,. I. would support probably -.the FEC property, the only thing that would concern me there is the bonds that 'we use to purchase that, and the fact that I was representing''a firm'; that was litigating that for a while and one of whose members I think is here hiding behind the overhead projector and you know, any land really that has been proposed that is public would be acceptable to me and I like the idea of a tax increment district, I like the idea of a major public, private joint venture of that sort that has all kinds of synergy with all kinds of other y. projects, I just don't think that's all that viable, but I would vote for that too, so I!m OK.in either case. Mrs. Kennedy: OK.: } Mr. De Yurre: :Well, I... go ahead., Mrs- Kennedy: The County Commission .also recently approved at the last meeting to pay a consultant $100,000 and come back with a recommendation. Mr. De Yurre: When are they coming back with that? Mrs.'KennedysI don't know... six weeks. Mr. De Yurre: OK. Well, I got no problem with the land that is being proposed now and again, like Commissioner,.Dueseau wanted, I got no problem with other lands to be considered, but this one since you know, I got 'enough _ informationon it -.to be able ,to make an intelligent decision, I got no problem g' going with a tax increment district forthat area and to move ahead and do! what is necessary to make this project doable:. Mr. Plummer: What parcel is he talking about? - 4 Mrs. Kennedy: 3rd and 4th Street._' r } Mr. Plummer: Oh, between 3rd and 5th? I can vote for that: parcel, I'. aaa't, F} vote for -tax increment:: You are talking about tax ;increment for. how 1pa) tin ,4 years or more? h k rtrry - 4 a f 1 k Mr. De Yurro: Twenty. 1 NAME { k1 rJ f _ �t r Or, Mows T�tenty yearn. Novi you are going to have 1,b0b,000 s4uart feet .1 of uis' Is space that it going to demand police, fire, sanitation, all of the �— rest of the services and yet there is not going to be any revenue coming into the City for 100009000 square feet. Mr. Oe turret Sanitation there they would have to contract out. Mr. Plummer: Uhatever municipal services are going to be required, let's keep In mind that only 27 cents of every ad valorem dollar addresses municipal G services. My problem is, how can you provide the services to this 1,000,000 square feet that you are not getting 10 cents back out of? I just don't understand it, that's why I am opposed to tax increment. You can't provide the services and yet there is going to be the demand for services. I... you } know, the money tree is dryl Mrs. Kennedy: Hell, downtown Is where the businesses are, downtown is where growth is. In order to make it function, you have to build it in the heart of the City. Miami's not a place that people are used, like in New York, to walk from place to place, that's mainly the problem I have with the Bicentennial I ite. You really have to make it an integral part of the City and that to me Is the best urban decision that this Commission can take. Mr. Plummer: I agree with your comments and if we could afford it, that's greatl OK, I agree with that, but we don't have the... Mr. Manager, why are You sitting quiet? You call me hourly crying poor mouth, now you speak to tax incrementl Mr. Odio: I had Matthew Schwartz do a study on impact on the increment need. My concern on increments you stated very well, is that as the City grows, and _ the revenues don't grow, somewhere along the line we don't have enough money to spend in the services. Mr. Plummer: No, it's to the contrary. That which we are receiving`now'as taxes; we're'going to lose that. Mr. Odio: No; we... Mr. Plummer: What do you mean, no? Mr.-Odiot No,`no, increment is`above-vhat we are receiving now. Mr. Plummer: Above the present assessed, OK. } :zr - Mr. Odio: So, we are receiving $300,000 in taxes now. It means that if we go to a'tax increment district, that the difference on the newbuildings that will pay taxes like he proposed, which would be about $1,000,000, $790,000 would not come to the City's funds, but it would go to pay the development of that area and... ® Mr. De Yurre: How much is the proposed increase in taxes when this thing is built out? Mr. Odio: It will be about $790,000 above what they are paying now, and that would go directly to the tax increment district and not... Mr. Plummer: For how many million dollars assessment? Mr. Odiot For whatever it says. $ Mr. 'Plummer: You r e talking about... Matthew, have you done your math oil",+' what the total coat of this facility would be? �- tt Mr. Schwartz: Yen. t� I. Mr. Odios Now, let me point... Mr. Plummer: wait wait a minute, I asked a question, can 1 get.an answor? �` Mr. Schwartzs Yes, we did. 5}} r. Pltunmer: 'What 'is the guaastimatie? ism ._ih'( �' h r rt .Far xis ,ry $4m y kt a .,WMM s "x - x "'' Mf, $t:htlarta: 0X, the guesstimate for this facility worth of, devel*Ph6ttt ;could be built, .. Mr. itluuetrs No, no, what's the total cost? M>r. behitarta t The total cost is $137, 000 # 000. Mr. Plumers That includes the land? Mr. 5chvarttat That is of the private investment that block.. Mr. plumme"rt Boy, my question couldn't have been si total project going to cost? -. -a www www k s is, of! that one block# could be taxable on the bw ipler. Horn much is " the Zt , br. •2+it p r� 'Tou are .talking about $286i000,000 cost to 606ft the front dbot o�pietsQ. Nri 8thwaftzt This is the full development of that block. '. Mr, Pluesaer: That's what I said, to open the front door. Mrs. Kennedy: 8xactly. Mr. Plummar: And you -Are assessed today forthatparcel at $20,000,000# is that correct? OK, so that means $266,000,000 is no taxes coming in on that on t Assessed value. yh Mayor Suarez: No, no, part of it is private, so it would be taxable, one hundred thirty. Mr. Plumther: Part of it is private, I'm saying as far as the ad valorem taxes are concerned. Mayor Suarez: Yes, part of that would be taxable. Mr Plummer: That's correct. Mayon Suarez: But we wouldn't get it... well no, he is making a valid point. He saying it would all go into a tax increment district for 20-years. Mr`Plummer: Exactly! _ Mayor Suarez:: It would not go into the General Fund, but it mould be taxable; right. INAUDIBLE'BACKGROUND'COMMENTS -NOT ENTERED INTO'THE'PUBLIC.-RECORD. = Mr..Odio: Let.me point something out on what I've been... S; Mayor`Suarez': You want -to. --say that part:: of it,'could . be used... Mr. Odio: We `can..: if you earmark from he very very,.first'; as the tax increment district- -is developed, and it's 'something that I am .learning more „'k and- more 'eacli' day -because of what -is happening In the .other :increments, qou ti i can earmark funds from the increment part for the.operation or the impact that 'r You,- have on services in that area. So you could say that 50percent of that A increment can go to police and fire and sanitation that is going to service that`': area. Mayor Suarez: 'So; if you had $130, 000, 000- private component `growth � oven:20, you have_$90,000,000 net, that would produce roughly bondable, $180,000,000 !; and you are saying that'half;of"that... ® u Mr. Odio: You could earmark... Mayor Suarez: ... possibly earmarked for general operating... Mr. Odio: On a budget you project the services and you said you separate r4; Mayor Suarez:' That°gets very tight At that point.:' Even:assuming_fall that's private development. kf, Me.' Dawkins: , But if you' earmark it for -quote, .whatever, ;that reduces the amount of money; you get to cover debt service, so in my opinion that reduces+ your:'ability to''buy." bonds.' A# ' why`'I'sayyou=prepbesthat'sir. Odio:1t sell $20,000,000 ' is bonds,' so 'pou need so much of aha increment toy ire l the `'} t4r,;LY`'` bOtlds' " `but';'the` b81'ance is' to. !layor`.Suarezt You are sot saiying half would be necessrily t2#aiaunu some pexceatage could' beµ'for general operating,, _ `dr j', Vt�. t fir. 04110 Yes, 1.wouldlust lika to ask a queatioa. I+ a � p + ► !� } � -' ' �h{ '`axacxamz�t'aonies afar?:: , 1. understand that the Oauay �Xr i11 1f w Mr. 11s116y: I'thought thea.4 just land acquisition. Mr, ?Iu naer: How much,.. let's ask that question. Mr. Sailsy: I vould like to point out something. Mayor. Suarez: No, no, that can't be right, what do you mean, just lance acquisition? Mr. Plummert What is proposed to the cost of the land? Mr. Bailey: Yea, and I would like... Mr. Plummer: How much is the proposed cost of the land? Mr. De-Yurre: hold it, hold it. Matthew... Mr. Morris, why don't you explgin the numbers - that you explained to me the other day, so we have an 5: understanding what we are talking about? Mr. Morris: The reason it sounds a little confusing is -because we've been through so many different scenarios on this thing. Your questions' are all good questions and it can sound confusing. , Basically, the Keyser -Marston Plan, I'd - like: to go back to the original plan for- purposes of I the numbers:: In round numbers, the Keyser -Marston Plan said if you as a community want to see this thing happen, the way to. make it happen. is you have to have. about $175,000,000 to build.a Performing Arts Center. The -balance of-it'comes out . to the total of about .$450,000,000 to $500,000,000 project, total project`, major project for -downtown Miami with's lot!of;benefits. S H h f tt f czement would be used for. the'- project".at h — Mayor. uarez: .-. ow•muc o e. ax n all,.public or''private.or land acquisition or construction? Mr. 'Morris: Yes, the tax increment financing would be'used :to "acquire whateverT land the City.'and the County and the Trust together, agree is the best site'for the Symphony Hall and the best site for the Opera House. Mayor Suarez: OK, we got the -land now, what else.would it be used for? ,. Mr.'.Morrisr-,,And then it would be to pay for the construction' cost:,to,.:' Mayor Suarez: sea How much for construction, how much for land under that study? Mr. Morriss It's hard to say because we don't have the final plan for exactly. ® how the site plan will work,.. Mayor Suarez: Is it expected they would cover all of the con... Mr. .Morris i:.. because we don't have it approved by the Trust. Mayor 'Suarez: -Well, let me ask it this way., is it,:expected:that+it'.No? c; 1�lr. Norris: lilt me get an accurate number, In the Touche-Ross study, it was estimated at $19200,000 and the lease payment for the ground rent in the Touche-Ross plan Mould, cover -that - operating deficit so it would not be a burden either on the City of Miami or on Dade County, Mr. Plummer: Well, it is a burden because that money is going to be paid from the tax increment which you are not going to be paying to the City, so it It a burden on the taxpayers. Mr. Morris: In that respect, you are right. Mr. Plummer: Pay me now, or pay me later. Mr. Morris: What happens is, because of the money that comes from the State and the County and the private contributors, the City of Miami gets a fabulous 1 asset. This is the reason Touche Ross and Keyser -Marston recommended it. ay' Mr. Plummer: We don't want the asset. We just want to get it built. Mayor Suarez:. OK, Commissioners, anything further? Anybody want to try their hand at a motion that incorporates hopefully the consensus of what the Commission wants to do? Mrs..Kennedy: I would certainly like to move something at this point. Mayor Suarez: Please. We, all agree that we would like to try for it downtown? One of us isn't ready to approve either tax increment or public land to be used, and that's. Commissioner Plummer. As to the rest of the four of us, we agree on downtown. Mr. Dawkins: That's two of us on the public land, I agree on everything else. Mayor Suarez: Right, but he also isn't willing to go along with tax increment at this point, because he is concerned about the impact on future. ,public services, so how: do you want to.state,the motion so that we.canr.try,to get;a consensus to Tallahassee and to other jurisdictions involved and to the private sector? , Mrs..Kennedy Well, that this Commission... Mr. Plummer:_ I' 11 tell_ you ,one :motion that will, pass with -this vote,, 38,.that_ " g — we do -want it in.downtown.Miami. t t. Mayor Suarez: I'll entertain a motion that we want it downtown and we go to additional motions after that so we can, get one unanimous... Mrs. Kennedy,: So move, that's your motion, I'll second. Mr. Plummer: That's fine, _I'll move it. . Mrs. Kennedy: Second. Mayor Suarez:. Call the roll. The: following resolution was ;introduced .by Commissioner__ Plummer -,;- moved its.adoption f � Al RESOLUTION NO. 89-345- M� A RESOLUTION .OF THE MIAMI CITY,COMKSSION SUPPORTING r , THE, CONCEPT: OF, LOCATING A . PERFORMING ARTS:.CENTEH THE DOWNTOWN ARRA ,OF .THE ;= CITE, OF MIA[iI.. (Here, follows body of resolution, omitted here and on sYa; file in :the Of# ce:.of :the,City. Clerk.i Upon .being .seconded .by ; Oommisaione Keasody,, _tha resolatioA --aas ga,ssst4 and adopted by the following vote: s V • :} ; a, r A'lg: tobissioner. #.• piutdi6er, :ir• Comissioner gosario ttennedy Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins Vine Mayor Victor De Yurre Mayor ltavisr L. Suarez NOBS: hone. ASS$NT: None. you know that reminds me, that's similar, to the motion, Mayor Suarez: Yes, y had five thin the County passed the other day by five to zero, they only Cormtissioners y really didn't approve tart left on the river concept. The just said, let's do a study, increment, they j but in ttie meantime, we'd love to, you know,: see it there. Many places_ I'd love to see it. I d love to see it, but anyhow It helps. It begins to get us off ground zero here. t the City Manager then Mrs. Kennedy: Do we want to instructo cork with the private sector? Mayor Suarez: Yes, but you've got to take more t yorhan u hyou know. already , worked doing that. He is already on the e a tax increment district for that two Mr. De Yurre: Let's move to approv block area. Mayor Suarez: That particular parcel? Mr. De Yurre: That's right. Mrs. `Kennedy:. The alternative three? - I'it move it. Mayor Suarez: So moved. Mr. De Yurre: Second.-Taxincrement district for the blocks, the two City blocks :between 3rd and:5th Street facing, Biscayne Boulevard on the west. side. z' Mayor. Suarez: And as Herb was suggesting, maybe an extension of the existing , w district -as opposed to a whole new district. I don't: know,if that procedure l ' makes it a little bit easier, doe1.s it, Herb? r Mr. De Yurre: Well, you know, I don't want to create a situation where we end sl v' >up taking money from the. Park,West/Overtown and pour it into that section there. - Mr. Bailey: I'm sorry, Commissioner, what did you;,say?. You don't. want;.whatr? Mr. De Yurre: I don'.t :want to...: I wouldn;�t: like to mix them up to where rte j end up taking money from the tax increment district, that exists already, and then put it into the Performing .Arts section.'.. Mr. Bailey: We wouldn't have to_do that, Commissioner. In fact, it would I' P robably work-somewhat:in reverse, whenever, and if we ever get any money iom tax increment on that. We have done similar extensions .with the Grand Central; where we,, allocated specifically those dollars that are coming ,and if anything is left .over it — goes back to`:OV. 8 ortown/P.ark.West.;, It would ,probably:. be,easier i! from Grand Central to pay for Grand Central Amend., the • existing, plan, but I just want to say and .I ,h"ays to osy 'it as a } , mattes of my responsibility to you, it taken a long time to get monies coming w r; In'! from : ax increment.. We've .been in a, district. now ovss six yoAr d W haven It a> bond <yet.:.. IL<will,=happen at _soma`poiat in rtime, ;taut t would't egyand : he financial echsiduling¢, +is �, be kind of interesting,to see the strat, + k . what > you; would expect When you :.expect _ it ,.and how much, because ttts ,mome}�i� era, �,� { i' buy the land...!: ethe i e Ms or o�#haint Wst tezr, _ Mayor Suarez:: Well,. to further,a V o y k., a do .pro VC from the existing tax- iacrement�` diwt�rict ��tt QVertOWn/l'srk{ tiV+st�+rr P for a P r e 's plari5► than s` f�t�r i n 'to be-useda forming Arts facility, I t That, is..:,a :.�isGl$to#n that :wa �?ake h� o :a thg Qistnl 4s 9 , t , . commission is the CItA. (Community Redevelopmentgpa�yi f ' SSArx ,yy� ' '� i t /�• d{`t1 ��i1 . ` a � aynr Buarers T'hat's.a* clear as. you can get. mr. baileys. Tom - Ott. De Yurre:: Well, What we are voting on here now is on the tax increment district. we can decide later whether we want to tie it in or keep it apart, or do whatever we want down the road. mayor Suarazi OK, that is keep it as a general thing and we Will decide the mechanics later. Mr. De Yurre: I want to send a message that says that we are willing ,to do Within reason whatever it takes to get this thing going and get it_done.. That's what I would.like to do. Hr. Plummets Let me ask a�question. What is proposed of what the City 'of Miami would have to go out in bonding for? f Mr. Baileys We don't know. That's what I am trying to say and that's; Why, .I asked the ,question, what are you going to use? You mean for.this particular project? Mr. Plummer: Yes. Mr. Bailey:. Well, we don't know, in fact the bonding depends on.the revenues. We -don't know what revenue will be generated and when. Mayor Suarez:. .Are you talking about the coat of construction of the Performing Arts Complex? Mr. Plummer:. I'm saying the City of Miami would wind up going out .to sell bonds on this project. What amount of bonds would we logically conclude are going to ,have to be sold? Mr Bailey:, It 'would. be based on the amount of ;money that comes into the Trust fund and it may.,.. ,I must tellyou that _we;can acquire the, property.,_ :,Lf the taxes do :not increase over and above -the base,; you will,, not,. be,,.able' to sell the bond until,you get .a'substantial increase over the..base.tax rate. Mr. Plummer: Then what would happen? Mr.` Bailey,v Nothing. - Mayor. Suarez: Well if .it... unless everybody, else.got so excited about the whole concept that.they figure out some other: funding sources,. Mr., Bailey: You ,know, when .I came' here and we. started doing,, Overt s, West as a. tax increment district, everybody was under the impression thattall. you had to do ,was establish a district and go'out:and sell ,bonds, ,That'.s;nQt really what happens._ I'm not saying ;that you can't do,a,tax increment district, but We've, got to look at it realistically as what it; is going to produce and when. I , can assure you not even in five years when , you-,pe1.rhaps have enough revenue -to produce a bond that's going,to be sizable, enough, to,pay for whatever cost,you set. Mayor Suarez:,..That's precisely my concezn'about.., r Mr. Baileys., Once; you understand that, then you can proceed,;"but :;proceed With the right understanding Mayor Suarez: OK, but you want "people to:be aware and 'it's. logicalttatrthis ` ! might take a few yearn to actually; bagin:; producing anything ,µntii tha, •,k `6: Mr. Baileys It's, going :to take a'• few' years. _ r t �,_P Mayor Suarez: Anyhow, :with that understanding, and ' that's ,because I'm goipr rti _ to get to the next mption. Does anybody else have any .qusat0ns n�u...? ;rxc> q J Mr. Dawkins: Yes., f. ' !!rplummsri m .thip ' W bonds p .or will they be 'rovenup? t � .,, V j. n. - �l z Mr. 8sil6ys They're revenue bonds and they'll probably be taxabYa. - Mr. ylutnsers Be taxable: Mr, Baileys Taxable, yes the new tax law makes them taxable. Which Means the interest will be a little bit higher, is what Mayor Suarez: he is saying, — Mr. Baileys it's going to be a little higher. - Mr. Piummart would my colleagues on this Commission entertain, or if i made a in the November election... motion that this thing be offered as a referendum this commui�,000 worth of nitq turned doMn $40,00 you know, I'm looking that And 1,11 tell you, when you start talking about i bonds for roads and sewers. I'll bet you a minimum of $25,000,000 in bonds this project, you are talking, doing that, you better ask the taxpayers what they think about like - i and if you are the gaff. Now, I would hope that any it, because they are paying you'd better ask the building, y this, before you go start selling or start even in favor of it because they're paying the tab. _. taxpayers whether they're Let me ask for a little quietI the chambers. Officers, make - Mayor Suarez: there, Commissioner Dawkins. sure back please. Mr. Dawkins: When we approve the tax increment what are we doing and what is the next step? Mr, Plummer: Committing suicide. Mayor Suarez: Do you want to try and describe it Matthew? That is a very { good, question. Mr. Schwartz:I'think all you're approying.;.in this resolution JS that the district for this and City. would entertain the idea of having a tax increment' a which you would obviously would have a chance, f:. to move ahead with doing plan before it go on to the County Commission —" obviously mould have to approve .would approve it so I think it sends the word to the Performing which Mould have to interested in having it downtown and that you would —i� Arts Trust. -that -,you're. cs tax increment if it is economically feasible and if it works. T _i � let_ me tell_., my "fellow' Commissioners and the Mr. Dawkins: Okay..: I've �stid "when . ' administration, although it, doesn . t do', any good I', tel , . . said it to* the `i this on 8agside, I've said it. on the Arena, .I've r,adminfstraton I'm going to it now`and I want to make sure that'gou and nobody hears me. don't do nothing until you bring this before this Commission. All right? back " i?+{ Here -we :have retail, hotel a nd all this retail. I want you to bring `of who will go into these retail whoever it is, names blacks, Latins and women Latin or who will own the hotel. I don't intend for you to come shops, black, before me at the last minute and tell me that you have a situation ready to.go find and you can't find the individuals to do this.. Now, if qou can't some Cubans or some Nicaraguans or whatever. black people to, build a hotel or some let out there and help you loca to them.' " '?} you have, come and tell me and me get do then you bring your_whole;package back to this Commission. Once you .that Don't bring no package to this Commission where you have not identified some 0., black, 'some Latins and some women who will own ,some of these retail stores,, the restaurant who will own whatever retail it is in the hotel and who can own do do that hope I've s } Now if You ,I in the hotel, I don't care what it is. n't five up here to 'tell" qou to go "Deck and bicang it to. u t got three votes of Now is it anybody who: plan. to bid on this who does not understand that? I have nothing else'to say, Mr: Mayor. The folloving resolution was introduced by Commissioner Kennedy, Who moved its adoptions RESOLUTION NO. 89-346 - A RESOUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION SUPPORTING THE CONCEPT OF TAX INCREMENT FINANCING AS A FUNDING MECHANISM TO ACQUIRE LAND AND TO FUND CONSTRUCTION AND DEVELOPMENT OF A PERFORMING ARTS COMPLEX TO BE LOCATED IN THE CITY OF MIAMI ON THE WEST SIDE OF BISCAYNE —_ BOULEVARD BETWEEN NORTHWEST THIRD AND NORTHWEST FIFTH — STREETS IN CONCERT WITH PUBLIC/PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT; FURTHER DIRECTING STAFF TO WORK WITH THE PRIVATE r SECTOR AND THE PERFORMING ARTS TRUST TO PLAN THIS _ JOINT PUBLIC/PRIVATE VENTURE. _ (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on z — file in the Office of the City Clerk.) —' Upon being seconded by Commissioner De Yurre, the resolution was passed =r� and adopted by the following vote: AYES: Commissioner Rosario Kennedy Commissioner Miller Dawkins _a —'C Vice Mayor Victor De Yurre Mayor Xavier L. Suarez :t NOES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. —i( ABSENT: None. COMMENTS MADE DURING ROLL,CALLs { Mr. Plummer:. I've made my statement. This City has to have money to operate. It cannot do a tax increment and continue to. provide municipal services. I 1 have to vote no. �- Mr. Dawkins: With the proviso stated, yes. fEl; COMMENTS MADE_ AFTER ROLL CALL: Mayor Suarez: That's probably the best we can do today, I would like to hear E{i at least a pronouncement. from the Commissioners, L've heard from Commissioner i' Plummer, Commissioner Dawkins, do have a.majority that says if we couldn't .we do it as a tax increment district that you would- be willing to make public i, lands available? I think Commissioner Kennedy said yes.. Mr. Vice -Mayor, �- would .you? Mr. De Yurre: It depends on where it is. sss, A ► Mayor Suarez: Bicentennial Park. Mr. De Yurres If you guys are willing to put a baseball stadium there also R; then I'm ready to go. INAUDIBLE BACKGROUND COMMENTS NOT ENTERED INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD. - i; ' �;. Mayor Suarez: Okay, that gives me an idea. Commissioner Kennedy? !( Mrs. Kennedy: Also to ... Do you want to address that issue first? 1 Mr. Do Yurre: I'm just saying: you know, r ' rR- i 70 l Mayor Suarers :` I'm not" even going to propose a motion if ' it ``has xoa afgF► �£ t= major league .baseball. stadium' or in conjunction with it I!d_ just:Q ahead a Mr; ` De Yurre: I'm saying if right here we have a feeling of.'three }'!} votoar ±, saying that a Performing Arts; Center is good for Sicantennia Bak the I M �fi= ? r. those satpe 'thsse votes 'when it is t ime , for a 'baseball stadium to tie p1#t That's` what I'm saying.' ' Suarez: � Obvioµsly.. I can take that- to y9te x ,: _!mayor _ ,. a, for `it94 Ass; T wauldA t vote j 40 V lit. Plummets Yt�u knoll, it is no honor to be sitting here as a Cissionef vhee,this Citl goes bankrupt. you want to make another motion an a Mayor guarefte Commissioner Kennedy, do related item? Mrs, Kennedy: yes. One more to encourage the Psrformance Arts Center Trust to recognise Gusman as an important and. component of the arts co to investigate offering the, -adjoining further direct the administration Olympia York as an administrative center for the arts. Mayor Suarez: So moved. Do we have a second? i Mr. Plummer: I didn't understand it, I'm sorry. x° f Mayor Suarez: The idea is to try and get Gusman to be accepted as part of the Performing Arts complex effort and get the ... Mrs. Kennedys Just incorporate Gusman in as part.of this .... Mr. Plummer: Good, .that will take one burden off us us. See if they won't take it tomorrow. Mayor Suarez: Call the roll on that. I can't imagine there would be any. 4 The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Kennedy, who + f moved its adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 89-347 r, A RESOLUTION -OF THE MIAMI.CITY.COMMISSION"ENCOURAGING d THE PERFORMING,ARTS TRUST TO RECOGNIZE GUSMAN CULTURAL CENTER AS -AN IMPORTANT COMPONENT OF THE PERFORMING ARTS COMMUNITY; `FURTHER DIRECTING- THE: :CITY ADMINISTRATION .TO -INVESTIGATE AND EXPLORETHECONCEPT OF HAVING THE -0LYMPIA"'.BUILDING'WHICH:.IS AN:INTEGRAL: PART OF THE'GUSMAN CULTURAL CENTER<COMPLEX-:BECOME AN ADMINISTRATIVE CENTER FOR THE: PERFORMING ARTS. (Here follows 'body of resolution, omitted here. and. on ; f file in :the Office of the City Clerk.) v ; a Upon being.seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the"resolution was passed and adopted. by the.following vote: AYES: Commissioner:J. L. Plummer, Jr. VIEWS Commissioner Rosario Kennedy• Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins Vice Mayor Victor De Yurre" Mayor Xavier L. Suarez NOES: None. �i ABSENTS None. `. Mayor Suarez: Tom, comments quick? + Y Ya+ ►�: Mr. Tom Post: Mr. Mayor, my name is Tom 11Post. My office , is 90i ; N.B.' 2 t 7si ,. Avenue., I tyrant: to encourage you to 'respond 5.;to .what :Commissioner ;Duss+�at� 1� requested, My law practice 'is strictly limited to property tax appeal. ThisF xw City` ham+ ,about tax -incremented. itself to death dowmtitown sand( is goingcr,►s; ` t= a result . of ` that, : transfer --..the burden „for operating the pity ';to, j►; `� yNj1 neighborhoods . {r; . llr. �rou can't, we're r at the . top; of the;'. m4X!ag nowi Tbie municipal services are going to decrease ees i ... •,,:. .0 , .. ' s r r i > � ^ � ti�.d �lc.�"F W,'�` a �y'a � � �:fi �� 1 t t Peat m > Then ''that `> means that things -dare :;going tQs #tt; j3Df: no hb4rhoode`. An ' tireete are not, going to : work `_and lighRgf #4t' 9t ni ,' iraz eto :Xao, helve to''µz�deretand what "gQu'te -ado z�g �t i+n `,�►au, i i .': .: t .' , ': ... '. '"_ }. ,• .. { i f'}1iw X. fikv''.1 4 �... as �___ F t 2�rr?n i N ♦ 41%066r My ft6tibn is that whatever bonds have to be 661d for this project would have to go to a referendum of the public for approval or disapproval. i so move. Mayor guir6st go moved. Mr. Dawkinst Second. Let it be voted up or down, no problem. ' Mayor guirezt Us have a second. And that is as to a perfomsing,Arta complex Mr. Pluminers This project, you. t , !Mayor Suarez: Any discussion? Mr... De Yurre: Either we have the guts as leaders elected -by the people to $oaks a decision or not, we can't pass the buck to the people. And if, that is _. going.to apply for this then it has to apply for every bond issue that .we have Mr. Dawkines I don't have no problem with that either, Commissioner. Mr. Plummer: What is wrong with the people having their right to speak to the t issue? Mr. De Yurre: Well, then we change the Charter and say from now on no bonds can be approved by the Commission and let the people decide each and every one. _ Mr. Plummers Victor, I don't have a problem with ,that if that is what you want to do. I have no problem with that. u r but ' Mr. De Yurre: No, that's not what I want to do you know. Mr. Plummer: All I'm saying to you is we are reaching the point 'where we are t getting into real financial problems. You know, nobody is aware of the real e. problems that are existing with pension.- I'm -telling you this City has a damned _serious- problem. _ We've got,.$6,000,,000 next year of., substat ions for :- Police that we didn't have before'.and the revenues. are,,'going, ;dowM:Tie — j federal moneys are going down. What federal..`moneys?. OK? I'a,just, saying the ` people � mmunity. are dammed sick. and tired of paying all or these eo to of this co additional` taxes: ' Look, I had a business in'this, City `that he'Cty drovebioip r out of business in the City of Miami. That's 'nothing 'to -do 'with' dead:,`people'. You didn't give me enough `damned protection around _my funeral home: where`r r, people would come in the evening to go to visit and - because -of than I lost that business. You drove me out of the City of Miami by allowing: it to'happen by inaction and what excuse do you give me?. I didn't have enough policemen,. Well where' the hell are you going to a for them if ` ��. y g g pay you go into all of these tax increment districts? Where are you going to o and � _ Y g B g -Pay for policemen when you"don't have money because you're paying the bonds off? Now somewhere along N' the line we have got to draw the line. I don't want to ,be sitting on this Commission the day it goes bankrupt_. It happened once before. I wars° threb . h years old and in 1939 this City went bankrupt. And I ` .don'twant' to be here ., again when it happens. And I don't want 'to be a taxpayer:in this$ City. Mayor Suarez: Rather than,get very technical about `this, 'I mould is that you. - withdraw the motion and bring 'it 'up when we've had time to consiasi it } otherwise I'd invoke the rule because we've got many many other;(items. rtx Mr'. Plummert I'll be more than happy to do that. (MOTION WITHDRAWN). Hrs. Kennedy: Let's bring` it back when we get the 'numbers.t NIZ W ;or Suarez: We ought to be considering, and I agree with you on this:, soa►e f`;� kind of mechanism for consultation .of the people of. MiasniIf'.we evsr g�i.t"i " 4 anotheay r major revenue band issue, 2 ' agree with` you `third. I "`have`;nottho ` y $ vy I sboµt, you know, tax increment in that .vein and I need a lot more %time consider something like that. J Mr. Plummer: Or, Mayor, the only 'thing I want to ropalud�. e4 1 + of this'' coaariu$iit fa `w atev e o k.; ,4 t P: - yr h er ; r aa„n, and I ,r¢sps�t tar ri to'rued' dAwXl a 40,O09 OOO .bond ins, fox stroets et�d sswerax: M9 t1 get 'tx a � `, xhi$►gs that keep this City vital .and' a;ivet Without xhsm ypµ hatep# r is ow buildings. I can't imagine for the life of me that the people would vote , for the issue but that's up to them. If they want It God bless them and so be Mayor 8uarett But I don't know that that is the correct mechanism and I tend to agree with the Via* -Mayor that, you know, government, with the powers that we have which are already limited by the maximum millage cap that we have and everything else, we've got to bite the bullet sometimes and make decisions, But I agree with you that we have to be very careful on anymore tax increment districts, on any more revenue bonds. Ve as a city have probably done more in revenue bonds compared to our total equity as a City, our total tax base which J" In one -fifth of the County's we have ten billion dollars in tax base, they have fifty-five billion, than any other city in the country and it is a scary thing because we have built up a beautiful capital structure throughout the City. Us have 87 or 90 Capital Improvement Projects of which there is some r public component and it is great as long as all of that begins to generate - funds and more general operating revenues for us in taxability but if it doesn't happen as we expect then we're going to be even tighter than we t' already are and we're quite tight this year. So I agree with the concerns, I. just think that we would have to have a lot more time. Mr. Plummert Mr. Mayor, I'll withdraw my motion and saying that my comments do not apply to revenue bonds - for the .bonds, it's not on the taxpayers, I have no bonds. Mayor Suarei: You're thinking of tax increment bonds? I'll only conclude by revenue produced pays. problem with revenue Mr. Plummer: But I'm talking about tax increment or general obligation bonds is where I've got a problem. Mayor Suarez: General obligation already has to go to the voters. -so you wouldn't need to pass a motion on that. 21. DISCUSS AND CONTINUE TO MEETING OF APRIL 27TH: (A) PROPOSED RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING SUBMISSION TO U.S. HUD OF. APPROVED GRANT PROGRAM FINAL STATEMENT REQUESTING $11,742,000 FOR C.D. PROGRAM 1989/9O; (B) PROPOSED -FIRST.. READING ORDINANCE ESTABLISHING. SPECIAL REVENUE FUND (CDBG 15TH YEAR) - Direct Administration to hold staff workshop with interested social service agencies." Mr. Dawkins: Mr. Mayor. Mayor Suarez: Yes, Commissioner Dawkins. Mr. Dawkins: I'd like to try something and see if I got two other votes. I have not. read, had time to do this Community Development and there's some things in it that I need more time to study. I would like to move that the Community Development be heard at the next Commission and if I could get three votes, we will do that if we get three votes we would do that, if -not, I'll go along with the rule of the Commission. Mayor Suarez: OK, and let me ask, what time would we otherwise, be meeting next Commission meeting? yr INAUDIBLE COMMENTS NOT ENTERED INTO THE PUBLIC,.RECORD. �1 Mayor: Suarez: Two -.o'clock. -< Mr..Plummer: Are.you talking about the second meeting of this month, or ne*t i month? k t. f �i7 3 y gright?,.-. C Mayor Suarez: You're talkie about the second meet#ng of this �nanth, right? !� Mr. Dawkins: This month,- the second meeting of Lh#s A►onth. Yets, do it j; �aorning.r i #§�` r {FEEL - z✓ ,,F , ". 2 ` 6P gilafilts tts could yes, the idea might be to do something lima this. in t%e isoig. That ways we could = 9:00 o'clock, l hear: Do youe�aht to tom` Mri Rodrigitess Yor ' i'latseii�g and Rot i�ig, the 27th, you are iup0oiied tfr - stltPt lit' Mf: aMk ur: And we could 'do this at 9e00. t at 9:00 o'clock in the morning. Mayor Suarazi iTa could do i Mr. Rodrigu6tj in the morning, you could start and... Mr. Ylummerc You. Mayor 5uarea: V.ha't item is it on the agenda today? Mrs. Kennedy: I'll second your motion. Mayor Suarezt Hehave a second on the motion. ilhat item, is3t' on` the agenda today? Mr.-`Rodriguers I think it is 81. I believe it's 81 and 82: Mayor Suarez: Items 81 and 82,`there's probably a lot of people here on the Community Development block grant allocations. I have not even seen the 'recommendations of`the-advisory`committee.' Do we 'have those? Mr. Dawkins: No. And while we're saying this, Mr. Mayor, I wish... Mr. Plummer: Hello? The Mayor asked a question. Anybody got an answer? Mayor Suarez: The recommendations of the Community Development Advisory Board? Mr. Planners' Hello? I'm not calling collect. Do we have the recommendation of„the advisory councils? Hello? 4y Mayor Suarez:*,, Have those been distributed to' us,'Frank? '• 4 - Mr. Frank Castaneda: Yes Mayor Suarezf I have riot digested`it. 'That's, why; look at the size of.that�. OK.y !! Mr. Dawkins: And I'd also like to suggest that any of you who have aria qua at ions. about 'thia,' get.in touch with my staff and my office so that.., x e Mr. Plummer: No, hold it, 'we're not. hearing it today. Mr. Dawkins: .. so that when you come back here, at least we know where we are and that you weren't cut so that I can sort of see what *a can do;-fn the interita:= `R Mayor Suarez: In fact, we"could do a workshop, if you We it, first time,+ ss � Mr, Dawkiass Yes,`OK, that would be great, Mr.. myYJ i? 4; - 'Mayor' Suarez: Yes; let-': schedule aworkshop for staff "Thiai`ll} bta:.. *7 right, ° "witi#s al'l the ` groups that` aaat to make"addtioAal i pro seatatibns -to our and 'rant to have two bites at the apple, < because we, 11 ,have =to 1 i i the - pre�aentationa dt the Commission very short and ,the: workshop fox staff I a week from this Thursday; "at 9s00 'am. Can Mr,' Plummer: Meek from this Thursday? - �x 5; ' Mayor Suaacew: Yes, from today Mr...PlumrnAr:. 111 be out of town Mayo Sua�raza1. Your ,atai, for your` ata#f, ao for.youyeaii, Y 4 � J �T 1T� Mr. Pluianer: Obs OK. Mayor Su And, frank, would you host that and tat me announce that, those - staff rather than get specific, separate reelusat, that want to most with my coins and make your presentations at that day. Mr. Manager, could you have the director of `the department host that and emcee it or whattv6r#- chair that cession? And figure cut an intelligent way of making the presentations and A: Jeff Bartel, from my staff, will be here and maybe one of the other ataf members. Mr. Jorge fernandez: Pacause this is a public hearing. You're moving to continue these then to April 29th. Mr. Plummer: for further... =' Mayor Suarez% Yes, I don't know if you would characterize a workshop with staff as a public hearing. Would that be a public hearing. I mean, it's r obviously open to the public, but I don't know that we have to... Mr. Fernandez: Yes, they are public hearings. They've been advertised. Mayor Suarez: No, no, but I mean, if we establish the workshop a week from public today at 9:00 a.m. where organizations want to discuss it with ourestaffrgeneathat they fromthatc meithatrioudags Is that a public hearing as such? Mr. Fernandez: No, not necessarily. There is no requirement that that be done. Mayor Suarez: Right. is Mr. Plummer: If. we're not in attendance, it's..._ Mayor Suarez:We're not in attendance, just our.staff. Mr. Fernandez: No, right,' exactly. -! Mayor Suarez: Obviously, it's public in a sense that we notify the media -i, there. making _statements and so on. OK? because: our respective staff may be a Does that sound good? Mr. Frank Castaneda: Mayor, I guess -what the question that the attorney. is 7 saying is, can we'`continue'this meeting to April the 27th? Mayor Suarez: We're continuing'today's hearing until the°27th at... Mr. Plummer: Nine a.m. r sue! Mayor Suarez: ... 9:00 a.m.... Mr. Castaneda: Nine a.m. Mayor Suarez: ...and in addition to that scheduling a workshop with staff until the 20th at 9:O0 a.m. With staff, understanding the groups that are here that we're not necessarily going to be here, the Commissioners.. We ;may come by from -time to 'time but you can certainly take all the'time in the. world . within limits set by Frank Castaneda to make a presentation.so that our staff can `'hear, it hnd we can certainly use the Commission chambers. It would right here. I'll entertain that in the form of a motion. We have.'a motion j; and a second to defer. It'll -be a motion to continue. =Call ;the roll. r f r z i r'Y a r litt6, G, M., } a 3 a� 'ar KX � r� The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Dawkins, who its adoption: MOTION NO. 89-346 A MOTION TO CONTINUE CONSIDERATION TO THE COMMISSION MEETING PRSSENTLY SCHEDULED FOR APRIL 27, 1989, AT 4t00 A.M., OFt (a) PROPOSED RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING SUBMISSION TO U.S. DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND URBAN -. — DEVELOPMENT (HUD) OF AN APPROVED GRANT PROGRAM FINAL STATEMENT REQUESTING $11,742,000 FOR THE CITY'S C.D. PROGRAM FOR 1989J90; AND (b) PROPOSED FIRST READING ORDINANCE ESTABLISHING A SPECIAL REVENUE FUND (CDBG 15TH YEAR)i FURTHER DIRECTING THE ADMINISTRATION TO HOLD A SPECIAL STAFF WORKSHOP ON APRIL 20TH AT 9:00 ;— A.M., WITH INTERESTED SOCIAL SERVICE AGENCIES. Upon being seconded by Commissioner Kennedy, the motion was passed and adopted by the following vote: �4 AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Commissioner Rosario Kennedy Commissioner Miller Dawkins _ Vice Mayor Victor De Yurre Mayor Xavier L. Suarez NOES: None. ABSENT: None. n 22. A) DISCUSSION WITH ADMINISTRATION REGARDING NATIONWIDE MONEY 'ALLOCATION FROM HUD -IN HOUSING ASSISTANCE FOR THE HOMELESS. '. B) HOUSING DEPARTMENT REORGANIZATION AND STAFFING. DISCUSSION WITH CITY MANAGER REGARDING PROHIBITION FOR CITY,EMPLOYEES s _C) TO DIRECTLY INTERACT WITH CITY. COMMISSIONERS.` tf� f Mayor Suarez: OK, Vice Mayor De Yurre, you had an item you wanted to handle* at.3:00 o'clock and we're-51 minutes past it. r` Mr. De Yurre: Yes, I requested that Diane Kraska, Jeff Hepburn, .Sonia F ` Cervera, Herb Bailey and Janet be present at this time. r.= Mayor Suarez: Is Jeff Hepburn here? Mr. Herb Bailey: Yes, we're all here, Commissioner, and I will take the lead in responding to any questions or concerns you may have or have. the discussion. We are here for whatever questions you may have. Mr. De•Yurre: Well, my concern, first of all, is dealing with the application I for HUD (Housing and Urban Development), section 8, moderate rehab program for the SRO (Single Room Occupancy) dwellings -for the homeless program Mr. Bailey: Right. mil_ Mr. De Yurre: It is my understanding that, and I just want.it for. the record - to. know what's going on, thatnot much was done or ; if it was done, ; it aas do}e kind of late to the point that it's really not effective at ail, the ' �h applicationthatwaa,-made and I think that was filed Monday,:,...r'L t f Mr. Bailey:. Well, we. didn't have one f iled Monday. I would just likeos —�' respond to the question. that you just asked in terms of what :was: done and'd like_.to +sort :of clarify _the record,, because - thera-.has .been ,.some pled tp �t elie rs'� _i tha1� ;,there's. a> .$45>_million dollar: pot that's available• at�d that we head ,a �� ,. chance of getting 10 percent of that. Actually, there's a $45 mill#on:do��,leF _ pot that Is.available= ovar: a period -of ten years... Mr:. Oa .Yugo= ,.,.Ten years._: IL ` t VAX jai&W]a ... maa.a rasa•.. aaaay..—..��.. --- -- --- ---- --- ------ - a half &III16h and the possibility of any one municipAiity getting in 666"t could hot excesd more than $456,000 which boils doyen to roughly to about 1I3 visits .6f eibney ,that we could possibly have gotten this year had w•e' had someone to make an application that would have qualified under the guidelines. 06to we did have tome people to come in and we responded to their �requfist to determine whether or not they would be willing to apply, lie had the Yahwishs to come in and we have gone out and wade an inspection of their facility and they decided they did not vent to apply. We did have Mr. §turtle to cortle It to.explore the possibility of using facilities along North Miami Avenue and he, felt that he did not want to apply at this particular time. We have a... Mr. be Yurre: What was the particular time? Mr. Bailey: This year, under this round. Mr. De Yurre: When did he come see you? Mr. Bailey: He came to see us last week. Mr. De Yurre: Last week? Mr. Bailey: Yes. Now, the problem we have and I don't know whether it'a`a _ problem or not, and if there is any kind of a maybe an oversight - and I read the regulations, we were not required to do it on a competitive basis - we _ probably could have maybe initiated some outreach. But for the small amount that we would have gotten, we could have, perhaps, only taken one developer and that had 122 units that were available and they had to be pretty much vacant in order to compete. It was not an automatic allocation, it was a competition nationwide. And the guidelines as to what you had to compete makes it rather difficult. You know, Commissioner, I can understand your concern and I can appreciate the concern you have about not having an applicant that would come in for this particular round but we are almost at the mercy of the developer deciding that they would like to come in and make .the.investment commitment. It is not something that the City itself can apply for and have a discretion as to who we give it to, very specific guidelines as to what the developer should come in and do. We just didn't have anyone who would do that. Mr. De Yurre: Tell me that the Yahwehs were not interested in this? Mr. Bailey: They came in..,. we even went and inspected that building' with .them.' They've come in on several occasions we" discussed the criteria with them and they have decided not come back. Y Mr. De Yurre: Well, when did they decide not to come back? Mr. Bailey: That was last week. Mr. De Yurre: Last week? ` Mr. Bailey: No, but we have been involved with them a lot much longer than last week. ,Mr. De Yurre: I.know that, but you know whet? You know what bothers"s`iaa and ` is Jeff. Hepburn here? UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: Yes. �Z .Mr. De Yuriev Where is ' he at? < Z: r 'Mr. Bailey: He's right, Yes. s, Mr, Do Yuxxe s OK. .. a� "Mayor Suarez: Could. 'you have Mr: lie Burn V.4 p come to the mike? aautt question, t�iia too about some matters'. ;titk� � O Mid: Aa Two v M concern i's' that y , from` dgy one +�md thAe ►+s •i hQ p ;dog gboutt in the; paper 'and Itos$ro wen; up amd 1 traztt> +1 .dv�F4 ` R� p p ...; up and game back"with ideas ',and concepts wind trying to" do' a�t�aptig�°' � �, homeless. And we bring down information and, you know, at leant s►y feeling was that something was being done by the administration. That's my feeling as far as this program was concerned. OK, now, all of a sudden, I come across a memo which was directed from Mr. Hepburn to you about - and this : is dated March 13th, '89 - about this program and saying that if something needed to be dons.1mmediately, for this to go through Now, immediately, you know, meant like now. I talked to Sonia Carvers who had applied a couple.of years ago;.for the same program and because we didn't have the information that was necessary for to get the approval, nothing was obtained. However, it was already in the — word processor, the application, everything was ready to go. According to her, and she's here, if we need to put her on the record, within a week that application was ready to go. Now, what bothers me is... Mr. Baileys May I ask one question? And who was the applicant? — Mr. De Yurre: Well, my information is that the Yehwehs were ready to go. I had spoken to them. Mr. Bailey: No, no, we've had them in our office and they have not come back to us indicating that they want to submit an application for this_$450,0O0.-.I mean, it's to our advantage to do that. On March the 13th, this memo: was — written on the basis of the fact that we were being told that we.nesded to, in some sort of way, try to find an applicant who would come in and could qualify with the available units to make an application to Washington. And we're always at the mercy of an investor or developer to come in. We don't have the units ourselves. Mr. De. Yurre: Where's Bill Perry? Bill Perry. Mayor Suarez: Is Bill Perry, Jr. in the chambers? I saw him back there. There he is. Mr. Plummer: Senior or Junior? Mr. De Yurre: No, I'm talking about... _ Mr. Bailey: We also have - I have the memo from you, Commissioner, to... Mayor Suarez: Are you talking about Bill Perry, III? .r; Mr. De Yurre: That's right. Mr. Bailey: I have the memo from you, Commissioner, to the Manager which Indicated there were at least'five people,who'-came to your- office.to.disc uss the possibility of applying for this housing assistance. They didn't come'to 4 our office. ¢_ Mr. De Yurre: No, that's why I got $ill there, so he can put it on the ; record. Mr. Bailey: And that somewhat gives us a.little.difficulty in trying torcariy out the operation. Because for: most of the time, when they. come ;to".your office with one set of instructions,, they've sometime do - not come -to our office and if they do, when we give them the regulations that we ..have: to::eppl�y, k_ to, they do not come back. I don't think.they come back to you and -say, well, we went ,to the :housing agency, we got; the information that we, needed.and. .that we have decided that we want, to do this. And most of -these names: we havea'.t = Y; seen. The only, one on this .list that come to our: agency ::that went through n' some sort of process were the.Yehwehs. Mr. De Yurre: OK, I just want, you know, so we can have an understanding of you know, where :.tho screw up was, if there was one, you know, Bill, why`,don't you explain the procedure you've gone through on this? f,Fti Mr. Bill Perry, III: QK, back in latter -- Bila,Perry bank :i D cem er athj- as.to be.the'exact date, you and ,I .had met with these various groups, Og;T �oe_ - ,P of. them being .the, Yohwohsand they,, had ::come . throygh � your , of (ices.{eRpress�� sac r } interest,,.- ifhen: I, found' out the deadline:;was.. 6Qipg. to, be: the: IOEh,:; pQtt�tctir¢ r 5� them to. tell them to tee where :.they. were: In -terms tha. J prooeusig f t "� application.They did go over, I think, about two weeks ago or :maybe lastk�' week, I told them to go. back and meet with '- I -thin they- Kraska and Jeff ' Hepburn -.OK, and then at the conclusion of that mltetiu#1,. thpyn �' 4 QAPFA��L - ,i rk x s f Fir ry '4 r ' l Contacted as and lust said they ware not satisfied with Sams of the information some of the services that they the information, rialll►0 specifically, they had been giveni specifically as it relates to bow many units aere,available, OK? In terms of. rehab, how many units were available and just general information that they had to go through, the screening, the stoning of particular property, the inspections and whatever have you. They were not satisfied. Bottom line, we were caught up in a revolving door situation whereby they came back to us and could not get i they were not getting adequate information. OK? Also, in that project advisors came to see us back before we went to Washington on December the 9th, OK, and they basically said, you got us in a revolving door situation. What is this, a serious program or what? The bottom line that they were not given the appropriate instructions according to the information they gave me once they came back after they had come from the housing agency as it related to the rehab of the projects. Mr. De Yurre: Did they have an interest in going through the process or not? .Mr. Perry: Certainly, we met out there on the site with, I think the guys, on the 79th street property, with Mr. Israel, Livia Garcia and at that particular time, I think Sonia Cervera then took over the process. They went to meet with her, this was back in January or February sometime. And then, after that, I just thought they were moving along with the process. We have met on the site, on that particular project on 79th Street. Mr. Bailey: I would just like to observe here that first of all, the guidelines that we have to give out are specific. We don't make .them -up. They are advertised in the federal register and we cannot give out, any guidelines other. than those that are in the federal register that would cause an applicant to qualify. The problem is... Mr. De Yurre: Let me ask, did you advertise this at all? Mr. Bailey:, How's that? Mr. De Yurre: Was this every advertised to,the people? Mr. Bailey: It was not advertised and it was not required in the federal register.that it should.be competitive. Mr..De.Yurre: I'm not talking about requirement, I'm talking about, you know, �2 if you're telling me... Mr. Bailey: We did not advertise, Commissioner, the answer to your question �s is, we did not advertise. Mr. De Yurre: But it would have made sense if you tell me there were no developers that you advertise. e Mr. Bailey: I indicated before that perhaps if there's,somewhere that.we did slip is that we didn't have an outreach. And this goes back as £ar as January. It didn't just happen in March, this goes back some time and we did not do an outreach. There was some discussion back. and forth with. Bill Perry and with me that there were people who were interested and I eras led to ® believe -that there was a.lot of money available. But as we read the register., we saw that there was not -a lot of money and you're.talking about $450Q 000, it yow,get it. Because you still have to compete for that.. Nov, you're correct, : _ we probably should have put together an effort to find somebody to come in. and at :,leasttry to qualify. That doesn't, guarantee that they will quell#y because they have,to:have.certain,criteria met, ry Mr, De Yurre: Understood. r i Mr. aailey:: $o, the problem we had though, and this ` is purely one x- administration, I can assume, when someone comes to your office and they - ;expropp :an interest,, I'm,not,at all certain that they are referred :toe-usin:a _ way in which we can dead. with them because they get information,- ma7r 4 ,fit someone else's off ice and when, we ,give them ..the federal resistor, they: aAsy� �#Pt like what they.,bear. $ut the ,guids.lines are.;vory -sgepi iu• . We dos}!,t mal�ezug 7 pM any aew.:rulos. 5a�� 7F { Ff C r 404: ' n WI F 5 i 5� Mr. De Yurrre: Not I understand that. I just want to make sure that, y6u ttryw, %eause it bothers the that we put an effort. I haven't heard from ,. �om�aiseioner Kennedy. I don't know if; you know, she has any 000eern over this hot. But it bothers me that, you know, we use the taxpayers money to =G go up to Vashington and to lobby and to do work and than,.you know, for vhatever reason, you know, it's trot fruitful. hopefully, next yeah... Mt. Baileyt We do know the application... Mr. De 'turret ... you know... ..t f Mr. Dailey: :.. had we taken the Yehweh's application, there would not have been room for anyone else. 'There was only four hundred... Mr. De Yurret Well, but at least you had 122 units possibly down here. Mr. Baileys I don't know why they wouldn't come back but we even went out and 1 inspected the property for them to sort of get an indication of how much it would cost to do each unit and sort of come up with a ballpark figure as to how much they would need. They have come back, we gave them all the information that we had to give them in order for them to comply.. They.,,did _ not come back. This is not the and of it, it's a ten year commitment if the appropriations are available and as we did in 1987, we'll apply again. Mayor Suarez: Well, from my perspective, all I can say is listening to all of this that we somehow missed the boat. We could have done better, we could have sought, as we have in other cases, applicants and we have to do better next year, that's what I want to add to that. I've got quite a few questions on the other issues that Vice Mayor mentioned unless you want to... Mr. De Yurre: Go ahead. Mayor Suarez: Specifically, the housing agency, Mr. Manager. Now, I've sent you memos on this two or three weeks ago. We have had a resignation of the director. When do you intend, if you intend to replace that director? Which,, is what I asked in one of the.memos and I haven't gotten an.answer to it, by the way: =Mt.' Odio':. ''My'intention is to consolidate the Housing Agency with the Department 'of Development and Herb 'Bailey's the director of both - of the combined.`.. r } Mayor, Suarez: When do you intend to: consolidate.them? x Mr. Odio: He's in the process; he's been busy presenting an organizational chartand that will'be.done very soon. Mayor Suarez:' Does that require Commission approval, Mr. City Attorney?" = Mr. Odio: We you, in fact, well, we have presented' to. you once already before... Mayor Suarez: We're going to check that out now. The second,question.is,... Mr. Odio: It'would require Commission approval if I was consolidating the ,rt budgets for this year. You ,will approve;. it , in next year's budget once it ! w consoli U}.•, -- Mayor Suarez: Neither one' in in the charter, I don't think, so I... ,OK, when you et the answer to that let us, know lease. Now, we have two dystQno� ° M� Y 8' , ,. P. , �; in, housing "conservation " agency, ,one : is new construction ,and 'the Qther Qny }, rehab. Who is ".heading each division now? I know that""Sgnia :Ce,rrreica heading. one of the two divisions.. I'd like to:.ask the tiapagor wail a minpte fr '' wait-a.minute; Herb: `IId- "like* to ask the Manager., Mr. Odio: ' We have°Jeff Hepburn; mayor ,Suarez:' Right. JMr. Hepburn, we very much "want to meet yoµ. `Ttla�ve talked to you an the phone a qt and it',$ good to have YQW� ggi } a 4 . a r ARC sy�t TG str.•s s an, the other division? Which'gnaslT. Hept�urn.hea�f n j o r wF�RR wz s Mr. Dailey;. Mr.: p t:� n r Hepburn r s•r 1 A• f .6 r _ - S % Y Fiat L`:-•vl FM.�2•'pT- _ - -. Ni►l►or.,8uarest f 10ant to ras... -wait, Breit, Herb... Vie. tiail�ay: OR. Mayor Suares: Mr..fianager, which division is Mr. i Mr. Ulm He's been heading the new... the new hoi !Mayor Suarez: New construction? Do we still have Mr. Odio: Yes. Mayor Suarez: Who's heading that? Mr. Odio: I don't know at this moment, I don't kn Mr. Bailey: It's consolidated. Mr. Odio: It's consolidated. Mr. Baileys We.have consolidated new, .and rehab i with another assistantunder that assistant direct Mayor Suarez: Was that consolidation approved by h. t _{i t pburn heading?, ing and..• division of rehab? r what Herb...who? r ,der one assistant director r. Du, Mr. Manager? ie J f payer. uarett Have you made the determination as to irhat you would lino the nteiidea act ton 't6 be as to Mica +Gervera fdo tea,. I have: Na�or 3uareict And can y6u `say that on the record what your intended action is? Mr. Odiot No, I don't want to. Mayor. Suarett I mean, I'll respect you if you don't want to say it on the record. I could demand it on the record because'T think it all kinds of reasons why we'd want to, but if you'd rather not say it on the record. Mr. Odio: No: Mayor Suarez e OK. When are we going to get this resolved? Mr. Odio: Hopefully, if I get an answer back today. — Mayor Suarezt I mean, we don't usually wait for attorneys to settle with us before we take personnel actions. We try to if we can avoid lawsuite.that way but we don't have to wait for them to settle with us. You can take action that you deem proper: Mr. Odio: This was a complex issue not created by me that I'm trying to uncomplicateand I talked'to her attorney this morning and I hope I have an answer tomorrow and then I'll resolve it on Monday. Mayor Suarez: Well, as I told you in the memo, I am very concerned about the functioning'of the Housing Conservation Agency of the City of Miami, I'm very concerned that ,we do need the high level ,people in that department.to do the work ' -and • that `some of ''our proj ects are - delayed and' it' a a' dif f icult 'enough department and Herb has a million things than he's'doittg. You've got a million things that you're doing and we've got a million things, -that we're: doingr .,..We `need the personnel to, the work, I gue'as Mr. Hepburn is doingA,a; heck of a•lot°over there,'but we-may;need'the support so 'that aituati6: should` be 'resolveed "quickly: Mr. Odio: I think what we want to do is have it at the level where people: vork`directly'with the... r 9 Jt' Mayor Suarez:`'Fine, you know I've always _agreed with that philosophy. Mr.' Odio:. OK: and we have an'assistant nt city mariage'r who is now. the 'direat`or eo that gives°'it a lot of clout and we'll try'it``that"way. I'm trying toravoid hiring any more,- anybody else. ® Mayor Suarez; When did the action as to Sonia Cervera take place?.` Mr. Odio: When will it take place? Mayor Suarez: When the suspension, yes, with pay. No, when did it take place? "' When' did her suspension with pay -'start? Is it over a `month ago or.., ' a that: Just an idea of mine? y } Mr: Od ia; ` I `think it`'s been a month. "' `g y f Mrs Kennedy. Over,a month. ? j Mr. Odin: I think it's been over a month. MayorSuarez: I would think it -would be good administrative Pf$at tXr Mr.� 'ddio; Two months.- y1t, Mayor Suarez; • • to resolve in shorter than { taken `at; to a particular employee in that situation; I =have to t0l x ►tiu !3 °�r ; x !or myself. Plummert ' MsyYl eak, Mr. epburp not, no, agt; a£ ypu, slr *why �r`'pay h e j � 1!{� a7r•r�i„`a rt, .. ^e.-r`-f�.;., A,h ti��'�st� ��$ r t r A .i vr4i Od.ioa ,: <yiftyiaia.. Mri . $ailsyys. Mir.: Nepburn'a salary? We just increased his pap- to aecommodate for the additional responsibility fifty-two thousand. Before, he via at forty=seven, in fact; he was the lowest,paid.in the group. Mr,41ummer: Plus parks. And what is his background? Mr. Baileys We'll let him explain that to you. Mr. - Plummer* No, no, let me simplify it. Mr. Mayor ` Mr. Manager, I donut think I'm stepping out of line. I would like any -- in the future, - any - appointment you make which is solely your authority to do, and I recognize that and I will uphold that. In the future, I would like any unclassified appointment that you send us, his name, his, starting salary, his resume and his background check. Now, I'm assuming all unclassified employees are still going -through a: back ground check. Mr., Baileys It was not a new appointment. Mr.'Odio: Absolutely, but he's been... Mr. Bailey: It was not a new appointment. He was already an assistant director. Mr. Odio: He's not a new appointment. Mr. Plummer: But he went to the unclassified. Mr'.: Odio:,. No. Hr..,Bailey:, He was already unclassified and was already, an,,assistant - director. Mr. Plummer OK, I'm saying on .any': of the unclassified appointmen_ts,u I;°would -like .that information on ,any: appointment 'that. you make which, I assume, ie public :.record.' Anyhow, I!m, just requesting: that it, be -sent to my_,office and I'm: sure, the others.' Mr:.- Odio:- ° Sure. Mr. Bailey: Right. Mr. Odio. 'But, I`just want to clarify that, Mr. Hepburn had been an assistant x director in the department so it's not a new appointment. a Mr. Bailey: A long time. Mr. Odios It's; just: been... Mr. Plumme.r:OK, thank you.. Mrs. Kennedy: Commission, since, -, you. -asked.. me a., whileago if; I had asp concerns. ; ,Let. me just say that in; this ;instance,' the. Yahwehs did ,not :come to me :but: I :think . it will,' be helpful if we :let, everybody. ,outy there know "that are Are not grant - writers,and � direct them, to the s ecif c de atment' i,e.M, ass P development, whatever. it .is.. . Mr. to Yurre: What's that? �t Mrs., Kennedys -To direct. the peoplo to';the specific department because .Mr. `De ;Yurre: Yes,, but. the :thing: is, ,thto t:kpo�Pr ;exist...P., . ?-Mrs* Kennedy: Yea. d""Ir,i -.J'+' r ?# 'x {, 3•r-tec Mr'. Do" Yurre: .... ao that, you know, we` have - ' like the outrooch' tN A bib" -k :H rb ;etas ,•addre$sin to <.tho none w;.d4�p4w8 ,►� #ail : xhati xamef ed next year, x R Mr. Ddlos just for the record and for Sonia's sake, she was not suspended,. She rss relieved of duty. There is a difference. Mayor.Suareat OR, technical description of her status is :relieved of duty.. tir. Plumfnert Weil, wait a minute, whoa, whoa, whoa. Mayor Suarets That's not suspended. _ Mr. Plummors I don't think that there's any provision in this City for relieved of duty with pay. There is a provision in Civil Service for suspended with pay. Mr. Bailey: Can I clarify that? Mr..Plummers•_ Yes, please do because I got a problem with that one. Mr. Baileys Well, let's just may, and actually what has happened is that Miss Carvera is working but not in the office. She's still on the payroll. I talk with her everyday when I have to. She calls in, she is still processing some Section, 8 rehab applications for us because at the time she was there, she was perhaps the most expert in that and very few. people had, the experience in doing it. She's actually working. Not in the office. Mayor Suarez: Well,. I got a problem with that, Herb. I'll.tell you what :the problem is. Mr., .,Baileys., There- may, be a problem, but I'm telling you exactly how , things., are.; She is working. _ Mayor Suarez: Now, but that's not exactly accurate because we've had occasion to 'call' to get information. from Miss Cervera and if calls are not forwarded, Is' so, now, that.is the screwiest arrangement L've heard.itt..my entire life, Mr .' Manager. That_;is not acceptable to me, for, one. I don't know if- .it's within' Civil Service guidelines or not. I don't know if they would have to be --within. Civildepart meat and in9 cus as. we have done,. to .ask to call .the . Service guidelines but, for. , re of,a person as we :have ,donewith Sonia and to be told she's not accessible she's suspended with pay or without paq`or whichever aad then to. have the. assistant- city. manage3r ,say that.. he is in full communication, with her, is an unacceptable way to manage a`city. Now, I;hope:that'"gets remedied ver uickl for m self. And I don't think I:;have, to. snake myself" T Y q... y, Y any more clear than that., ,Any otherquestions on .that issue? -Mr. Plummer:, Well,,excuse me, Mr. Manager, that's not. a. correct statement,`: you could do anything you want.` Mr. Odio: I have.to... e Mr. Plummer% You -can do anything you want in compliance with what is spelled... out in the charter and in the code. And I think that I keep reminding 'myseIf as, well as my colleagues and you,.that there is a:, very_ definite line between the administrative and the political, OK? Now, you know, I` can remember the- days,- that',s wrong with being, around here .19 years. You didn't call . fa#►, employee ; of a department head. You called the Manager : and , he would get you your ;answeis. Now,.a11,L'n saying is, I like what's here,today better than 19 years .ago because, it makes it ,accessible to. the information.}to the public. r; But I thinly we've got to be ,careful ` of that Else line that 'aye 4 that�.thia five ;members .of:, this Commission doesn't ..get too;; deeply imvolXpd in they x administratipn or vre!va.6roka the balance. Mr. De Yurr'e: Well, you got to understand'`one thing, J.L,, the charter allows; of us to .inquire as to anything we •want with the City. .;. Plummer` s Yea, the ...problem ia, is. who defines the` differende betwees�i,s� inquiry and interfering? And that's what the charter's V ery clear.pn, s;S'tr*�• !!r. pe Yurre! Well, that's why `,we got a City Attorsiey here for and' as far aaf. , fRY inquiring, `is ,ioag as .ghat :I do .has a' ggation �aark at the' apd,. I!m#Ae; �'', !depar Suare,s And we alwAa pµt the eusstiaa TF ',V r#g r i�; �• I i t �' 1 4 q' - 1Q� ' , -7.d rr ,T �� • 1' f F� 4 �t Nr. biwkins= Yee hoop, San Antoine.:. r. De' tu�rre: I went to thank' the people that I called to bb here c' Mayor Suar6et I have one last question on another issue that is re What is the status - well, I know the status, of Ana Gisbert? 81 Involved, I guess, in the homeless assistance at Beckham Hall? Mr. Me — .. .tw Awe G401.s*t i Matra vAu *naAa a dwtat-tttinat inn ntt Mr. Odin: Yes, we have,. yes, we have. We send Luis Carrasquillo has reported - there yesterday from Community Development and he... Mayor Suarez: How many employees now are involved in the effort to house the — homeless at Beckham Hall? Mrs. Kennedy: Four. Mr. Odio: We have three. Four Mayor Suarez: What is the status of negotiations on the continuing management of `Beckham Hall? Mr. Odio: I believe.that Al Mort inform us that he's six to eight weeks:away from finalizing a deal that so that an agency would take over Beckham Hall. Mayor Suarez: We're six to eight weeks from finalizing a deal so that an agency would take over Beckham Hall? Mr. Odio: Yes. Mr.,Plummex: Yes, we'll recall that they weren't acceptable to the $400,000 agency,'they were demanding an $800,000 agency. Mayor`Suarez Do you know under which of the two parametersthey're going to proceed? I say.they, I presume. we're talking about the county, right? Mr.'Odio The County wants to hand the over as soon as possible to`an a enc g y• Mayor,.Suarez: How much funding, are you going to make available to that agency for management of Beckham Hall and'the homeless that are found there? Mr. Odio: I don't' know. I know that it's costing them 'a million' dollars to operate Beckham Hall. And... Mr. Plummer: That's.a million dollar for how many people?_ Hr. Odio: A'hundred and thirty.' , Mr. Plummer: And that's the homeless right? That's B pov¢rty? Wow! Mr.. De; Yurre: Mr. `Mayor, before we go on to the next item,` one 'thing:; that bothers the hell out of me is this situation, with Ana Giesbert and tha way it came'. about,, 'And that the concept of prohibiting City employees from going arid' it's. addressed., to you,. Cesar -City, employees not tieing ailowe tpo Commissioners if they have a problem., You knoyr, the. hQus.iag prQblem;;tk�st. �}` surfaced, W it hadn't come to Miller and. myself' nothing Mould -have.'__ Nothing would happened, and I feel that, you know, sometimes you;can�t r` " overs¢e,4,000 people because it's a difficult job. !fir 94io; , It makes . it more difficult if they all come :runni"pg .here City Commission 'chambers, but, ,Commissioner, .I did not prohibit:.anyone talking ts� .pny Commissioner. M He .btu ;re: You On, prohibit anyone from talking?F Mr Odo: ` I hay Haver d t tlove 4 one ha I love, . ,, ,yf ` ? �� -: ': �.: _ ' .c 'fit .r §' zs`+r�?, r, �s urr x 600d, ' '4 � y r R 13fft want. t�lat forh@ roor�, fpst� ; if , u 4T f33 = ri t. _ �) ` • '. '� } T i .i e t h �t'4 Ii �it s{�Sb�g 1110diY t +yon lY. . -n y r a. r,ar {.�. 'tiF `71V 11'_ _,�5'_ fYr. Odio: i baiievo 'in openness, _ t t, ° n iY nigh A�A�k'"9`�� . �4 - r b b� �d71 Ltl i �# • ��4```""" — I, ''— a __h. S s'l;t�yi+r'.•AS'b•��a t y � - —_ d Mr.. Do, Turre: Wod. Mr. Odior 1 But i beliet►e that the employee has an obligation to the administration, if an employee is called in by a Commissioner, if an employee is called in by a;Comm:issioner, he has an obligation to his supervisor to tall his helit 'been called in and to inform him what transpired. Because It not, you cannot manage this City. And I don't... Mr. Dawkins: But when they came. When they came to us... 2 Mr. Odio: Mow, as far as coming and talk to you, or any of you, I don't -care '} about that. But his supervisor, his immediate supervisor should be told.: -` Mr. De Yurre: Because that's your own... Mr. Dawkins: But when they came to us, Mr. Manager, because of the charter... Mr. Odio: Sure, you brought them to me. Mr. Dawkins: ... Commissioner - we referred them to you. Mr. Odio: -That's right, that was perfectly right. But the fact is, that any employee has never been prohibited, as many times have I had the staff meetings, when some people said, well, we don't know what the employees are doing. I said, do not prohibit them from talking to any of the Commissioners. Mayor Suarez: Let me tell y you Mr. Manager, that ,. g � you... , Mr. Odio: However, there is.a fine line there. Mayor Suarez: If you assume the power of getting your employees when they come- and speak to us to tell you what transpired in; the • meetings with,; us.: - ` I think that's what you said... Mr. Odio: ... to the immediate supervisor, Mr. Mayor. I mean... Mayor...Suarez: -Well, the immediate, supervisor works' -for ;you, .we will, at, point, ..feel :. free to ask the , employees who meet with you, what transpired in. R the meetings with you. Mr. -. Odio: , - ..You are free. . to do, that .:. ;. Mayor Suarez: In;a public forum, as.this. Mr. Odior, You are free to do that. ® Mayor Suarez: And then, we're going to;;have :something that ,would not.be Ahe' ss! best way -to manage a city,: but I have no doubt as to who will; prevail is the, r ® final analysis, so, hopefully, we can go back to a system that we'vs.had. a courtesy ;.: system .where the employees:. : -come to,:, -us, they ° do ' .notify .,.ahe_i'r supervisor that they've come to,us and they're not going to be interrogated.as,' to what transpired is meetings with us. Certainly, the general topics,ean be asked about but I wouldn't expect you and I wouldn't want you afterwards to start quizzing them as to what my discussion with them were about,. I'll be: s happy-to_::tell ,-you what they ;;were.:, myself, I ,.wouldn!a :pent; them to.: be �. r: -interrogated afterwards and I hope that ,you wouldn't follow that procedure. I-' � kt -- don't know what the charter calls for. in that situation, but:,i wouldn't,waat:, w YOU ,to.:.test,..it. Mr. Dawkins: Mr. Mayor, anything else on this? Mr. Plummer:. Well, what are we testing? try .Mayor Suarez: I've made :my •statement. . 1 _ Mr.. Plummer: Well, you know, let's - if we were. all , in; the privy bus;tusss, and sometimes I think when we ,forget -that the government .is One of ,xt�e bgegt , h ,Y businesses azpuad, .we hgve'a CEO and that's the,Manager. Xou csu either ap'uat�;' or you cam disagree with the Manager,. .But if the ,�ainagar is gs�ing to a4sp4S�r •� F �� he's eft u r got ts�., lCnat+ at '.►il times what is going on iA this L"itYa i1ow},tstG people Dome running to us and bYpas�t the l�anagsFJ haw in i sths l i Q ;� { k to Make good d§cistonb not knowing all of the input and where thay'rb o8aiiiig k. dram when an , employee goes and bays, Oh, Ott, fine or OK, I'll do ,thtsi :, tou hive tot to 1obki� the buck stbpk here. If he don't do what thil2k.it, ptoper then he'd "166ktu for' another - _ r , $ fob. But I think that wr..� ... r, Mayor Suarez: I have to tell you, that 98 percent of our constituents th1hk that the buck stops tight here. �r Mr. .Plummer: Ah, you are absolutely right! xr Mayor. Suarez: And, if we don't figure out a way to have the right balance in executing these obligations that we have under the charter and that people n, — perceive us to have, we may have to change the system to reflect more clearly where exactly the buck stops.1: Mr. Odio3 I think you're right. 7 Mayor Suarez: You know, as far as you and me, we've never had any problem on this score... Mr. Odio: Mr. Mayor, I have worked... <_ Mayor Suarez: ... we've always been able to work it out in a cooperative — fashion. Mr. Odio: I have worked for six City Managers. And I can tell you for a fact that I'm the first City Manager that have allowed freedom of movement here as never before. Mayor Suarez: lAnd, as I've told you, the other five left under not the happiest of all.circumstances. Mr. Odio: But there is a system to this madness - there has to be a system.. ,,:_ Mayor Suarez: That's right.'. Mr. Odio: And you cannot have an employee that has an assignment that has: - been assigned a duty'to come running to one of you and then all of a sudden goes and does something different. At least.., ' s Mayor Suarez: The powers of inquiry of this Commission, as far as I can tell. tl� from the:-charter;.°•are :almost unlimited. I wouldn't..'. 3s; Mr.•,Odio: You don t'have to test our f�} y power because I don't believe in that..k. Mr. -Plummer: If you... Mayor -Suarez:.. If were 'you, try to limit them too much because it, wouldn't work out as a practical matter. Mr. Plummer: Only if you invoke Section 14. Only if you invoke Section 14 and that's for inquiry as to irregularities. �= Mayor Suarez: Oh, obviously and... Mr:, Plummer: Hey, all I'm saying is, than` if we're' going to have a <<� structure... Mayor Suarez: Things that are regular, I'm too interested. inquiring in inquiriabouk r_ but, • .. a_. r Mr, ':. Plummer; Weld, , if we're going to have a structure, we either have Manager or let's get another one.: Mayor Suarez: I've said my.piece. Anyone else on this issue? st kZ O4rr C.t z t i — 1 "F �. 5 1 _ w3.431342$.FU 2. flYii�i iWY-� Y�i" '"-✓tY.wr.Yi.11i��.f.AY.irrrr.if—ii�i—.1 --irk.a.Y��—ri_�ii�.iY.i_�iY.ii+Nfi 33. (Continued Discussion): "KEEP DADE BEAUTIFUL, INCOAPOWtATED" P100AAMr, Allocate $30,000 from 1986-80 Solid 'Waste Department Operating Budget (gas label 7). - �..ai..a..r.l.._..MM-.r—i�.....a....d........._�i.�..r�i_.�—o..__��i_.I..._�N....w�.w.�_.._....—_ M_a Mayor Suarest OK, item forty.. Mr. Dawkins: No, Mr, Manager... Mayor Suarez: Yes, Commissioner Dawkins. Mr Dawkins: Two things Mr. Mayor. This morning I asked for "Keep Dade - beautiful" to provide me with a budget, so that we could give them the money. They've provided me with a budget dated September 12th, 1988, so I assume that's the budget they're going to use for 189, and it says 42,700.00 for. - personnel; $7,500 for consultant support{ $10260 for travel; $621 for x° duplication and phones; $14,000 for four major events in the City and "Keep — Dade Beautiful" overhead and administrative cost, $3,913, for a total of $30,000. So I guess it's all right to go ahead. This is a budget so they can — go ahead and release the money. The other thing is we have Mr. Sonny Wright here... Mayor Suarez: What item was that before we go on to that? Mr. Plummer: Yes. Mr.'Dawkins: Keep Dade Beautiful, what item was Keep Dade Beautiful? Mr. Jorge Fernandez: Twenty-seven. Mr. Dawkins: Twenty. -seven. — Mayor Suarez: Entertain a motion on twenty-seven. Mr. Plummer: Twenty-seven. Mayor Suarez: There she is back there watching out for her program:` Mrs. Kennedy:- Move it. — Mayor Suarez: -Moved. You moved it right? _ Mr. Plummer: Wait a minute: M Mayor Suarez: Commissioner Kennedy seconded. And then Commissioner Plummer ® has been satisfied as to thirty-eight. We can take that up quickly too, I, think we tabled it. Mrs. Kennedy: No, we tabled it until the afternoon. Mayor Suarez: Call the roll on twenty-seven. Mr. Plummer: Twenty- what are we voting ri g'on? Twenty-seven? � t I FIB -.. Mayor Suarez: Yes. 5 s Mr. Plummer: OK, is that - you were, Commissioner Dawkins? P4a;T" _ Mr. ' Dawkins i Yes, J, L. , yes, J'L. , um hum. � Mayor Suarez: n�' Call the roll on`twenty seven. srfz, 9 k . ;Fr 1 aIF a i-; ( 1 MR , — ¢b{r - _— '-',-•._ _. __ ky1'.,.J:fl:!R kF,.�r .,.�-��.lt-sii�4 'y t$ 7� The follbVit►g thovea its ad6ptiottt �a,F .. - 'C1 it resolution was introduced by Commissioner Dawkins, Who •yb RESOLUTION No. 89-349 A RESOLUTION ALLOCATING $30,000 FROM THE 1988-80 OPERATING BUDGET OF THE SOLID WASTE DEPARTMENT, IN SUPPORT OF THE "KEEP DADE BEAUTIFUL, INCORPORATED", PROGRAM WHICH PROVIDES PROGRAMS AND SERVICES AIMED AT ELIMINATING PROBLE4 AREAS IN THE ENVIRONMENTAL DEVELOPMENT OF THE COMMUNITY; SAID ALLOCATION BRING x2. CONDITIONED UPON SUBSTANTIAL COMPLIANCE WITH CITY OF ,7 MIAMI ADMINISTRATIVE POLICY NO. APM-1-84, DATED —j JANUARY 24, 1984. I, (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on r -1 file in the office of the City Clerk.) —E Upon being seconded by Commissioner Kennedy, the resolution was passed ?F3 and adopted by the following vote: AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Commissioner Rosario Kennedy Commissioner Miller Dawkins Vice Mayor Victor De Yurre Mayor Xavier L. Suarez NOES: None.' ABSENT: None. ----------- --------- -------------------------- -- - ------ ---- ;; 24. REFER TO MANAGER FUNDING REQUEST FROM SONNY WRIGHT REGARDING:PROPOSED REVITALIZATION/EXPANSION OF CARVER HOTEL - Direct Manager to report back at April 27th meeting - Postpone demolition of Carver Hotel. E t Mr. Dawkins: We have one more=.thing, Mr. Mayor... ' t Mayor Suarez:- OK, Commissioner Dawkins. `k Mr. _Dawkins: We got Mr. Wright:here who wants to retain a structure that the administration is deemed come down so I'd like for him to have his piece and I'.ve .got Reverend White who's in opposition to it and,I have,.a letter from Father Barry which says they're in favor of .following the 'administration's desire. So, I'd like to hear from Mr. Mayor Suarez: Sonny Wright. Mr. Dawkins: ... Mr. Wright and then the administration. Mr. Sonny Wright: Thank you, Commissioner Dawkins. Mr.. Mayor, Commissioner Plummer, Commissioner Kennedy,., Commissioner 'De Yurre,:Manager, ,I'd'•like. .to thank. Commissioner, Dawkins for allowing me the:,opportunity-- to ,address t#s "~ Commission.without.having,the benefit,of being on the agenda.::., -The; reason. why" I .asked to be;.present ,here .today, is becauseza, very significant building,` whichr represents: the history, of black- Miss, Adker? < Why don',t ;you come up here Miss Adker, and help..me out a little bit.: Thank you. Anne: Marie Adker: Don't say historic, Mr.. Wright: You - tell me what to say, come oa.' Go ,right ahead. <w �Tt" Mx,, Adker;He„needs all.• the help he can; get. 1'an: Anne :.Marie ddke,x� ,�+07"r<r� nth Street. I amfor the .expansion - of a time• frame' four the 04rx►+�r,r#iote _,However I actually object -to :anyone calling it a :historic site, I' amsi °, for a extensiozl, , . on. the time frame, because Overtown since: was �r�.abin� �t It��r�W11 had its own hotels and whatnot. It is the only tiotel ;site left iu, ettA1� a-andwecertainly weed. one, ; if this -is .renovated.. i on► arse sb�ntt{' ` being• called •,historic, because: that's nAt a .h .4 Or re ovation Ann the .oxi Asioa of tiros► r Mayor Stisirez: Thank you for Your statement. What kind of extension are ate f4 -`'- abakingt and what does staff redommend to we ea focus in on this? Hoer much extension are you seeking? Mt,'Vrightt Mr. Mayor, I'd like to not impose unduly on the time o the ' Commission. I've -been here all day. Mr. Dawkins: Just how much time do you want, so I understand?Tx:_ Mr. 'Wright: Well, thank you Commissioner, I appreciate... n Mr. Dawkins: How much time do you want for the Carver building? Mr: Wright: Oh, you mean as far as the renovation? Mr.`Dawkins: Yes, how much time are you asking for? �t x: Mr. Wriphtt Oh, I see. Well, I'd like to get with your Development O Department, Mr. Frank Castaneda, and I would think that... how about six .L k, months? Mr. 'Dawkins: OK, -allright now, six months, OK, now the man wantsto hear = from you on ihis'six months extension, sir. — Mr.``Rodriguez: Yes, this item was, this project was ready for demolition and `I asked the Administration, both the staff and the Administration to "withhold the demolition until we hear from you today. We -want to make you aware that which are passing — the building is'in very bad condition, there are some photos around. The building is ready to. collapse at any point and we are note recommending at this point that there will be... , rf- — Mr. Dawkins: Hold it; hold it, see, because all "of'us-here need .to hear. this, OK, so`we know `what, you know, what we are voting on. OK, go -'ahead now,.sir ; x 'Mr. Rodriguez: The -building is' in very -bad condition.- We are concerned that �= `the building might' collapse with people inside at any point. If you see the pictures that we are sending around as I mentioned to Mr. Wright, I withheld the` demolition`' of the -,building after the `action by the 'Unsafe = Strtcturea,_ Board, until today to 'allow you the 'chance of `' if< you want' to ` extend :the, time; ter. 'so 'you can do so, 'the " recomaaendatiion recommendation: the `Administration.,'at' this-:: point, after checking with 'the Building` and Zoning 'Department, ' and the,SH'F _,.. Overtown/Park`Weat'staff. and from°,. the Development Department,':is that the building should -be demolished immediately. 'Mr.IPlummer: Well, I think it is logical Sonny to ask; if. you;are,asking,;us for an` extension ` of time that' you will in some way '-indemnify :theCity-;: if someone should get` hurt in that building because' staff has already recommended Y' f#� that, without question their concern is safety. Nobody' can argue.,A that a If` you are "asking' us' to' extend the time, -'you can't-expect.us. to .be on: theh.h0ok for'" anybody that would' get` hurt, " so if you"'could •f-ind'' a` way to indemnfy,the building, I would vote'to extend the time. Mr. 'Wright: Well, Commissioner Plummer, I think that that is. a.fairt,request �. I've taken that into consideration; I've'looked' at it-' from your point,.of, viewr= and I can appreciate your concern. '•' What we've done, '-is we''ve erected<=a fan;Q around `the building, where there is no `access to : the -part that. is, subject ?' the danger that was referred to by Mr. Rodriguez. At the samo time, I that ��4i ,. that". if we are al l pored additional time ' -:.what 'we ' would 'like-! to do g is aslz 4d►iau if you if `you° Mould not only "give `. us the .time, but Qxtand. tQ� ranter cooperation of= your various, departments, -in particular your. DApsriantp! �} `ordiht. be�be tc asa`sComuunity^'Development' inr that we", ,'y, a funds which' w,ouid" ba available to us =once the 'complete j.packaee �k aad'`�render the` building 'safe liy demolishing ",the,, wall -which is rip } than;`following'; through with�the 'plan of the 'e�ogiseer, rhicb �►i1]Alb } d;a �:` render the building'safe `sad secure until such time as the FaQmplste� }},aSWq}g�v"p' 7.� ; � , - t - z : f n 3• c'� INr` S C ¢ ,Ef'n#{. R'+rL�r � '��p 1 �`. Y nSEgy aIf} t6}�r t4 k d q't Y $ A-Y ,I h..• itv4 i 91 h 2 1.TFYr y 3'+l wy'i •1 r, _ '�,r t_ ,� Y .C 1lT q M :. � a ,}:'T fjfU k _qtp, � 9 {y i s �x _� �C�+G.Ay '.�'•'ii .x�.xffjR e�1 __ Could be accomplished. Us have been in touch with the office of senttor Connie Mack, who I understand from your department, Mr. Frank Castaneda and Ms. Miranda Albury, will be in a position to make some funding available far the tomplate renovation of this building, together with the funds we*ve already identified, so we just need to be able to have the time to take away, because I also share that concern. I feel very bad if I came in before you and asked you for an extension and somehow or other, you know, somebody got hurt, I mean, I would feel bad. I'm also you know, sharing this with you, and I'd like to avoid that as wail. We would go immediately, upon receipt of the necessary funds and knock down the deteriorating portion of the building and thus render it safe, and then we'd go proceed with the plan, and incidentally the plans that we intend to proceed with consistent with the plans developed by the City of Miami as relates to the African Folklore Village, and I don't want to talk too much, but if you would go along with us on this, I can assure you that it will have my attention and as it turned out, as I talked to the various people in the community and to the people in this room, because I didn't come down with a group of people lobbying, I just talked around the room and I learned a few things, as you come in, you talk to people, things happen, so I walked around the room, I saw people that I know, like Reverend Mitkins, he has property in the area, he didn't come here with me, but he's in favor of what I am talking about. Francena Thomas, she didn't know I was going to be here, but she is prepared to say some things in my behalf, so I am a lot of people concur that we need to take every effort to save what to us is the last remaining historic semblance of what Overtown used to be, so it is more than just a building which we seek to develop, this is a part of our life, which we seek to preserve. I would ask you to give this consideration and trust me and cooperate with us in helping Frank Castaneda to release some of those funds prematurely, if that is the right word and let us go ahead and knock down the bad part of the building and that way everybody is safe. Mrs. Kennedy: OK, Sonny, let me ask you, because I just asked, and I would like to go ahead and grant you that extension, but I asked for the file to.see when the building first came to the Unsafe Structures Board. _In fact, it came to this City in January of 187, it went in front of the Unsafe Structures Board in November of 187, and since then you have been asking .for extensions.' I guess what I am saying is what guarantee do we have that you are finally. going to go ahead and fix it? ;— Mr. Wright: Well, Commissioner Kennedy, in all fairness, I think that I have been really in somewhat of a disadvantage in that I have not dealt with government, and community organizations and the type of things that.,I am doing 1 - here today, but I think after talking- to -Ms. Adker and others' in the community, that it would- be very advisable if :.we would involve the' Overtown'- s: _ Advisory Board in, this process in order that they might help to speed this thing up, because I think a lot of things could happen if the Overtown Advisory Board had been involved, if Ms. Adker had been involved, if the people in the community that know how to get these things moving had been ENER involved and not just me, then maybe we could have done it. Now, these people have committed, they are prepared to work with us and again I repeat to you, that I feel just as concerned, as I am sure you can appreciate, as you are, God forbid that building should fall and I think that nobody would feel good about that, so I would like very much to ask you for your assistance and ask Frank Castaneda to release enough of the funds in order that we might be able to knock down the portion of the wall that we deem dangerous, and let's immediately do that, and I would also ask for your benefit as well as mine, to allow us to go to the Overtown Advisory Board which meets next Thursday, and{3` s I've spoken with some of their representatives and see if we can't... yra_ Mr. Dawkins: Mr. Wright, we get constant complaints from people who say structures. are unsafe. We go out every day and push down people's places -that the say is an:unsafe structure.Now, you want me to say to you, that:hera4s �xrw. an unsafe structure and because it's in that particular place, we should not demolish it although it..is unsafe. Now, then you want me to grant. you s"stay : and you have no money up front to do nothing with. You even want the City of Miami ,to :provide ; you with funds , to knock one of the walls down; to snake. it safe � for you to start ne otiating with.' , Nowwhen.. y g , you have-not told ma you knock t _ the , wsll down, where yqu -:. are going to get ' the ' architectural,' fees' f rotq wits ? which'sir, to make -,the -building safe. Now, I am going to make a motion"'l.pir, all right? My motion is, that we give you 30 days to come back and..tell us f where'; you, are . going . to get; ,: ;how you: got the money, how you . ara gQlag secure it and that you have liability that indemnifies 'the City,• , thdt =: 4u, ,r block, f4Xle' of .the top of that buitding� on somebody,= your!ve: plot .insuriir►ee t a�j _ k �1 Till! - ArR'f.� cover it. Now, I will give you 30 days to come back, no wait a minute, that would be may motion that we give you.., and at the end of 30 days you cannot come back in my opinion and prove that, then it is senseless to go on, in opinion; sir. Mr, Wright: Wall, Commissioner Dawkins... Mayor Suarez: I can't imagine going much beyond 30 days, this structure looks like it is about to fall apart, sorry. : Mr. Wright: If I may, Mr. Mayor, I'd like to respond to Mr. Dawkins, if it is proper and appropriate, and say that in reference to your first comment as relates to that particular building and as it relates to what I think you should do, I would think that you would think as I think, that if at all possible, considering that we have to be concerned about the health and welfare of the people in this community, if at all possible, we should try to k preserve what to us, Commissioner Dawkins, to you and to me, especially, represents the last, one of the last pieces of evidence of the great era which we experienced in Overtown, which I grew up in and I had businesses in, which I really seek to preserve and to me I believe that with the exception of trying to think in terms of I don't want to see anybody get hurt, but I think to the extent that we can preserve that building without endangering people's safety, we should do so. Now, I also appreciate the fact that you are prepared to give me some extension and then let's not talk in the singular, you are not giving me, you are giving a group of people, you are giving a group of people who feel as I feel, who asked me to represent them because I found myself in a position where I am the spokesman for this particular R situation, who would like to have this.thing preserved. Now, 30 days, and to give some kind of indemnification which talks about insurance, an area which °3 has a reputation for all kinds of civil disturbances and everything else,' x, would be very difficult for me to do. Now, as far as asking you for the money, this is something that I really am not familiar with doing, because I can't recall ever in my 30 years in Miami, ever asking the City of Miami for money, but by the same token, the City of Miami has a program, at least I am. under the impression they have a program tohelpthe citizens to :.accomplish things which they are unable to accomplish by themselves, so to the limited extent I have knowledge of this, I am asking you if you would put the resources of the City behind what- we are trying to do and help us,: preserve what lis dear to us. - Now, - Commissioners, I hope we have not been unreasonable to the extent we are able to secure additional financing, which conceivably j could come; about as --a` result of the efforts of Senator Connie Mack, who, ,. understand took a personal tour of the area and was shown the building by now r. other:than',the Mayor, Xavier Suarez of our City, we would be -able to receive r the- additional .monies as. -well as to be able to get some conventional financing. Mr. _Dawkins: OK, let me cut you off sir, wait one minute. This Commission is just as committed to preserving the historic part of the black community over ® there :as you area That's this total. Commission, -OK? We have, put `money; forth* NONE for a historic village in an effort to erect some sort of a memory to black e folks who lived over there and what they owned over there, so don't tell this Commission sir, please,. I mean, don't tell the public... Mr. Wright: I am not telling anything, I am just... H Mr. Dawkins: Wait now, OK, I know, just like you said... Mr. Wright s Yes. -® f' Mr. Dawkins: :.. 'you know,. you don't know,. I. am..teliing you;` your 'don't cQiae u¢- ,c in ni t down here,,''like you. 'say,_ this', in the' first time you've been :'down - here , 8aany. r �i Mr. Wright: Well, I'll be back. `} Mr. Dawkins: You, sees '`so this is something,' I wean you understand 'but.W ;; . have, .we. are committed, OK7 And now I don't think that any Qf `those peo�enifx tr ' who you. named' are ' desirous of us taking t any` of the money- frAm the1st9r1 village to restore that. building, see? ��yz'r Yzr4,�y�t� Mr.. WrighL's Well, I� don't think you have to. , Mr' .Daawklas: ` .OKt, well,: I� mad�e'r,the xotlon, 'MayQrt nali the gW�att9?}'f x "{ - — .a%ryf Ci{` r• T•'d+,b ilg5 �, J •ncyt., >i 3tt n1q _ At. iiriht: But I just asked you# Commiasioner Dawkins, if 1 may sirs if.. 2lr. bawkinst The motion is that Ma give him 30 days with which to dome back do , with a plan of .chat he is going to do to the building, how he is going to if a brick falls off the building and that he has liabilityto insure that that building in any way and damages anybody, that he is liable because but administration has told us it's unsafe. Mr. Wright: I might not be able to get the insurance, but I can render the - building safe. Mr. De Yurres The "how" includes the financing of how you propose to..: Mr. Wrights Pardon me? - Mr. De Yurre: The "how" in 30 days also includes the financing, you know, if you got a commitment from a bank, or if you are getting help from the City or whatever. - Mr. Wright: OK, all I am saying is this, we can take down the wall which represents the 'concern that we all have. All you have to do is tell Frank Castaneda to release the funds which he tells me he has available for that — purpose. - Mrs. Kennedy: The funds are available. Mayor Suarez: Yes, before we vote on that, let's get a status report, unless — the Commissioner has... - Mr. Wright: Well, I'd liketoask you to do that if you would. Mayor'Suarez: Wait, wait. Mrs. Kennedy: The funds are available because the building was. going to -be 'demolished last week. ;!. Mr."Wrights No, • not because of that, because I- was working :with them. They are the ones Frank Castaneda:.. { Mayor Suarez: Well, let's hear'from them. rTPr >Mrs. -Kennedy: No, but I am saying the funds are in place because it was the r. `'• intent of the City to demolish the building. r t _F- Mr. Wright: OK, fine, well, why don't we use those funds to preserve the — [ building. r �i Mayor:Suarez: What funds are available and for:what purpose, Mr. Rodriguez?;_. 4x" r Mr. Rodriguez: The funds which are available are • for•. the demolition' of the building which is, how much Hector? Mayor Suarez: You are also pending an application to HSS? s __. Mr. Wright: Exactly! t� 4 Ma or.Suarszv For how much? Y Mr. Wright: It was for St. John's Community Development Corporation.'., It 3s U 4 > for $500, 000. `and if Frank Castaneda would come -out -of ,the roow,i gde`s- into and, tell you, maybe it might clear up::a few thiugs� cif hs5 e around :someplace= xwq X <Mrs.."Kennedy; There, he Is. Rodriguez v; • Mr. Mayor; • it i® .�claae to $20, 000, what x .t�ant ;tp aqeiCe ,, aware is that it is not only the well that. 1p in "danger, you can .pled a' bottom _of `the, building, all the way to :the - areas,Xwp,'have... `Mayor; Suarez:,• In, it secured as to entry into the building? k1� >, `, —_ Y ... ...... .. .. :. a _,. , c .. .., r _ _ : S . � _ T 9}ttV fig,^,•.-, .n7:�^� - n! it Y5' . r Mr. Itodriguets we have security and it is broken. I nsean,_from time to_tift ve+ve had the doers have been broken in. The picture that we rent around,"yutt dtn sse that. Mayor Suarez: Certainly that if we were disposed to vote on the motion that included allowing you to tear up some of the unsafe aspects of it, you,wouid,. have to secure the building. If you tear down the pall, what effect that his. on the whole... Mr. Rodriguers It won't be secure anymore. Mr. Wright:. We could follow the plans of the engineer, 'which would render the building safe and if we use the funds which were allocated for demolition for ; that purpose, I believe that we could do that and we can come back to you within 30 days and report to you as to the progress. Mayor Suarez: too, the problem with using demolition funds to bolster up a building that's falling apart is that you are kind of going against what;you Intended to do in the first place. Mrs. Kennedy: That's right. John White: . Rev. _Jo te: Mr. Mayor. Mayor Suarez: You couldn't come up with insurance in the amount of time in question, !Sonny? Rev. White:, -My point,:,Mr. Mayor... Mayor. Suarez: Yes,.go.ahead. Rev. ,White:. John White,,the minister of the Greater Bethel Church, 145 NW Sth Street. '`I`walk out of my, off ice every day and there's homeless folk who sleep, in the.building,,the homeless folk who come in and out of the building.: I am not objecting to" the process of historical sites. ,I am. concerned about --,the. safety and _ the 'welfare .of the ' parishioners_ who come to Bethel: Church and. to Mt'._` Zion, :who walk 'on that :sidewalk and cif' wedon't make the building' < safe, I'm sure the. City would, definitely be liable, so -I trust that in the process �. .of your'decision that, you make sure that we secure some liability,:whatever, a you do whether. you extend it.for one month. or six, months but I assure ou y I < that' people are_ sleeping,"going in and out of the`.'building, :you need to make it safe. Mayor Suarez:" And the pictures we"'ve been shown... i Mr. Wright: Thank you, Reverend, I appreciate that. Mayor Suarez: The pictures we've been shown make it seem like it is not going to remain a; historic .site .or any other kind of site ,for very,long if you-don!t ®k do something drastic to it, Sonny. It's ,going -to fall apart) Mr. :Wright: I think Mr.. Mayor, we,, are in a .position''now, where .there Is become a front `burner item and when I said thanks :to the Reverend, I meant I that because.I.. Mayor§uareti Well`ly Comissoner aknmotion sgo't s it even further up ,on; the ,front, burner, kind of like ready" to .fall offE the burner all' together. e _ _ ,^. - _:. '" '• '::r p rt Sri Mr Wrights If,you :would agree to.,a llow'Irank`Castaneda, which he"told-me he �,; could do this, :.:;to .advance the .money so ,that ;ve cats go ;ahead i�panedietei ► and' s lake care. `of "thi"s "first phase"of it; the bung: would .be sale, the cpiaaeFutt {t of the RovArend and everyone else, would be answered, but #see s�aya` thath�4� Anybosiy else in:the buf�ding want tohelp.? r'"s� i dot' '5' ,t4 Sr �i:•:+ Mr, yluimtier: Secureon an hourly basis. ,� f "� a "4. `'.. r {� r.. f r 'v s ;� � �t'.'fk•�'�b ��¢ �jir��4 firs, Kenne,dys Sse, `the' problem is: if the "building is net secure¢, ;�ol►i :that's wily . , f� � Xr,, +g gyp[ 4T t t' i }V_er �u�d:• • r,_ ; .. < < a E rY »{}'>t>. 1 �`e}t. / y,3,,,a, ... _ 1. -- -- _-- --_-- u 5* .F SY�ri .! is '.t,+ttt�3`�'•"� ,.,, t '� � � Vig Mayor guarett was'gbiAg to eheek to see if the Coftiseioners would'aceapt a f titan . that mould g1+ve YOU 3t days as lung as you secured the building e� n onb bbuld have access to it and not require insurance under those c t rcuatitance s . Mr. Plumteer: Mr, Mayor, it doesn't work. The people, you secure it, two days liter, they broke in and stole..... Mrs. Kennedyt Yet, that's right, an hour later. '. Fir. Plumer: They've stole the plywood and they'll steal the window fratne's and sell the aluminum. Mrs. Kennedy: Yea. Mr. Plummer: You know, you can't stop it, unfortunately. Mr. Wright: We would begin immediately with the money which has been allocated to this project, which has not been released and which cannot be released according to Frank Castaneda, based on a technical way in which this Is done, but if you would authorize him to work with us and he told me that if you would, that he would do that, so we. would then secure the funds which is now available. 'We'would go''ahead and take care of the first phase which would be in compliance with the engineer's recommendation, which would render the building safe. Now... Mayor Suarez: What you are saying implicitly, you,are not stating explicitly, you are saying that there is'no way to insure this?` Mr.'.Wright: I'm not saying that. What I'm saying is.... Mayor.Suarez: For 30 days? Mr. Wright: What I am saying,is... . — Mayor; Suarez: And comply with the conditions of `the motion? = Mr. 'Wr,ight: What I, am saying is... • Mayor Suarez: Are you saying that 30 days is not enough?. r Mr. Wright: But what I am saying 'is 'that we'd like to ''begin the renovation process and need to'release the money.' Mrs. Kennedy: At our expense. Mr. Wright: Not your expense. Mayor. Suarez: The motion would give you the ability to that, Sonny, and to apply and to make sure that the HHS'(Health and .Human Services) money :is ' obtained and so on and maybe another extension after that, but Commissioners seem to insist on having" insurance-duriag that period'of time. Mayor Suarez: One question before you get that far. The mosey, Frank, where's Frank? The money that Mr.` Wright says-is'ivail'able, what is it, for? 'Mr. Castaneda: Commissioner, we are `working'with Sonny Wright 'in getting �` $500,000 from OCS (Office of Community Services) you know, for this 'particular7 project for the development of a hotel 3n`that property. But we .have stated. �S2q y Mr.'Dawkin`ss That's tearng'down the whole building and building a hotel. �� f x . `fir. Cistoneds: No, he is planning to do s renovationasi the seaao, fir t z is, that 'parking requirements - are ,grandfathered `and tnayl�q Sex$ o cans explain ;Further on that issue. M. .Mayor Suarez: Thera is Value there that you could renQa�struct, 3; what yox t'3 r are p ay iAg • � j sas��+x"� Mr. ,Dawktasi Wait now, wait air. Mayor. ;All sight than;, the *Qney a • iir3.glt .#e , aaXing �edvamce him will comp f rom where? it c %X �� S 1 � 2 r.CMjj Mt. tastansdat Well, what we have to do, what we,are discuating in. U ;. proliminary manner is to give an allocation of Community Development, ttt ,latch the OCS mohey. Mr. Dawkins:- but he has to get that money before you match it. Mr. Castaneda: That's correct, that's correct. Mrs. Kennedy: How long is it going to take? Mr. Dawkins3 All right so now the money that he is talking about, is that the r demolition money? Mr. Castansdat No. Well no, I assume that he is talking about the money that would match the OCS money. The problem is that as you are- award, we only release money as all the money is put on the table and that is what he is E talking about, the technicality. Mr,.Dawkins: Is that where we are, air? Mr. Wrighti Yea, sir. Commissioner Dawkins... -' Mrs* Kennedy:' So how long a period of time'are we talking about? Mr. Plummert Years: Mr. Wright: If you would ask them to release the money prior to all the money beingavailable,'then we would immediately render the building safe as per the plans that the engineer submitted to the Building Department, when we actually had a permit to'build the building,: but. it just elapsed, the time -'expired; so if -Mr. Castanedaaould give us the OK to allow the money to ba.advanced,.then. we would then render the building safe and proceed to develop the building in accordance with what we say we would like to''do. Mr. Dawkins:' Frank,- is what Mr: :Wright asking you',legal? s Can, you�>advance .:. j the directs say that you can advance him money before he as the total amount, f or after: he has the total amount? = j 1a Mr. Castanedar: Commissioner, :the money is to do economic Development, ' F projects. Obviously the money will be to build the hotel, :that will create;:. jobs'' and .:things -like that. The money that' we.- ,have i`s obviou.sly not °.. muff is lent:. t' to dog ,that', therefore it is :our policy.- that we ':.only . release' "money, as in the case of the Haitian Task Force when all the money. is on'the table is when we F? go into,ithe process.:,: , Mr. Dawkins: Well, tell him that so he'll know what we... r� Mr. Castaneda: That's what I've been saying. Mr. Dawkins: But see, he is saying that you... Mr. Castaneda: What he is saying is for the Commission to waive that` requirement and to release part of the money prior..to the... Mr. Dawkins: And you;are saying it is up to the Commission to do that? Castanedai I am=not :eying Ghat: My«rbcommen.. ;. Mr. z ,V Mr. Dawkins: Are you!°saying we can or we can't do it? �'f'` _r Mr. Cast.ansda:' MY recommendation!, is note to do ,that: -' told-.athat" you! ng .oHr. WrighteYou ¢ti0nt=z What' a` going on' here, man? I mean, come on, came an you know; thio iar u �'Z" Mr. Odio: go,:;, don" tA�--blamehim-'"Sonny. e ara somethi g* Mr. Wright: Weil, 4JC; r { Att � r Rev. Tom Ferguson, Commissioner, this is Rev. Ferguson, 5925 HE 6th Court: This the last place of location that will remind us of Overtown. Us know, that developments are eager to get that kind of property to go ahead and do whatever they want to do to wipe out everything that the black community has been about. We're asking in compassion to give Mr. Wright who has served this community for many, Many years and the Commissioners and opportunity to do what he says he is going to do. Give him the time and if he don't have what you art require in that time, go ahead and do what you want to do, but don't erase dreams over night because you have a schedule to destroy and destroy the dream of what that black community or what that building means to all of us. _ Mr. Plummer: Tom, that's not what we are talking to, we are talking about safety, concern about people getting hurt. We would love... if you give me an T' indemnification to the City that if anybody gets hurt they will take care.ot it, I'li give you six months, 1,11 give you six monthsl But I'm not going to sit here and vote with the potential of somebody getting hurt in that building and suing the City. Mr. Wright: If you would ask Frank Castaneda to release the funds as he told me that he could do if you authorize him to do it, we would immediately go in and do the first phase.of what would render the building safe. And I'd like to - _ take it one step further, because I personally do not like -to have all this responsibility on my shoulders either. I'd like to go to the Overtown Advisory Board, which I spoke with them at their next meeting... Mayor Suarez: Let me ask a question about if we were disposed to do that, I am not saying we are. Mr. Williams: Yes. Mayor Suarez: Would we get a first mortgage on those monies in case you don't do the rest of the project? Mr. Wright: You can get anything you want to get,.Mr.,Mayor, I don't have any problem with that. We'll do the project. With a little help from our friends, we will do that,project, but we cannot do it by ourselves, we need.some help.,. Mayor Suarez: Can we take an interest in the property by either first mortgage, or an instrument that would become.a first mortgage if .they_.didn't proceed -with the rest of the project?. �1 ;f Mr. Plummer: Let me ask a question that.I haven't heard the.answer to., When you say release of up front money, how much are you talking about? Mr. Wright: Well actuallywe are not really talking about- that much. The person who was... �- Mr. Plummer: Is that under $10? ® Mr. Wright: Well no...- f Mr. Plummer: You say not that much, how much? Mr. Wright: Well, in comparison to the whole thing. AF Mr. Plummer: How much? ta- t Mr. Wright: We'd have to probably check with the contract, but I would say... *{r= _ Mr. Plummer: How much? Mr. Wright:, About ;00,000 depending on who we,got do it. It would,,. Mr.. Plummer: Apo $ matching grant from the. City as, amaximum of whet? Mr.,. Castanedat On the amount _ of:.money . that he was requesting it was . a twp k4t one match, in which we will provide the one and the other side would p.rovida f the two,. Is rb f` Mr, . Plummet: But .there is no ,guarantee that,. ha..will. get ,this. ' Mr. Castaneda: That's why I would recommend.., s 2 i 422 AFF ��' _ -_ _ , �.` - _- v5 i ii..tL*-S�Y"' 1•p_':?L"_allr �YnXit _ w > 1 6s W44djdJp�'s, Mrs piuiotoers What happ6be i Me advance the !honey and they, don+t gat the r loan? Mr. Castaneda: That's exactly my problem, Commissioner. f Mr. Plunrtiert Well,,it's a realistic problem) Mr. Wrights l think as the Mayor pointed out, 1 think that you can take an equitable interest in the property if you... Mayor Suarezt Yes, can we take some kind of a lien, Frank, that would be converted into a mortgage the moment we gave them a period of time to obtain the rest of the funds if they didn't obtain them, or didn't otherwise show how they can complete the project? Mr. Plummert Do they own... do you own the property? Mr. Wright: I represent the owner, I don't own it personally. Mayor Suarez: Well, but I mean you... Mr. Wright: Yes, I can speak for the owner. Yes, we would do that. Mayor Suarez: Want to try that? Mr. Wright: Frank.... Mr. Plummer:- What's the value of the property? Mr. Wright: The property on the assessed rolls, the tax assessment on the, property„two hundred and plus thousand dollars, Mr. Rodriguez: Well, let me see if we can get that information. Mayor Suarez And how, much is the CDBG monies, Frank, that will bw-used.that.: he is seeking? Mr. Castaneda:. WeIl,you know, if you'want to give an: advance amount,:>I,'wouid assume that -it should be the lowest amount possible to secure. the building. ; Mr: Plummer: But is there any mortgage. pending on there, are there any, liens pending on.the property? Mr. Castanedat I believe that -there are liens on the property, Mr. Plummer:' Oh"hell,. where do` -we 'stand in - line' . inside the tdoor, or outside the door? S. Mrs. Kennedy What position are we.:.. r; Mr. Wright: What I would be willing to do, if in fact Mr . Castaaeda.,would be agreeable, I_would be willing: to, if in fact it were" the'de"ciaioa "of.;the Commission, to have the.' money. advanced to the hotel with the understonding we, would use the money to develop the renovations and render the property safe �_.. Mr. Dawkins: Mr. Mayor:..: h Mr.: Wright: aad,one thing I Just wanted to sa Y y... Mr.- Dawkins s '', I! asked that this be taken out of rotation and is "respect to, .ail r of ;the g I who have been waitin here all day, . I think ;it is .pnfa.r for: me 4 to :-take ' his ' much saime I ;thought that we could: cottie and `this=;would be aqn �y controversial and wwe could 4 get it done. I make a:motion that this be'r4#expel �oti� to the Manager and that Mr. .Wright sit, down with the Manager and thin comeD v back oa the 27th with a;recodzaendation from he 114aagex irr i ci! s a .. r a yr kir rE. M Mx, 'plusm�esr: Second the motion. Mayor Susrgza So moved and"peconded, Sorg iolog r°` T what r 8 r 'tp the'-- logiat,icai cn - ° 7 r s t Y3��r r✓� �s�;t R y A.�- t}�M'L''F`h f `'."1+YiA� for r . r ' tv - Mr. Rodrigues, fib, in the meantime whit you are telling us is to hold on the El. denolition.of the building right? i until that date. Mr. bawkinse -Yes, until the 21th and on the 21th a datibion will be made."" Mayor Suareze The Commission wants to second the idea, at least in principle of lending some of the money, as long as we get a first position? Mrs. Kennedye With a first position, you. Mr.:, .Dawkins Well, if you are going to do that, there is no sense in him :r coming back on the 27th. I mean let's... Mayor Suarez: Well, they have to work out all the details, they have see" Mr.,Dawkine: You either give him the money or didn't! Mr.. Plummer: - You don't.know what a first position is. Now, tell me how many'' liens are already on the property and how much it's mortgaged? Mr., Wright:, ,.OK, Mr. Plummer, I, thinkI can satisfy the Commission. ' What we would do, and I'm sure I can get somebody to do this, we will give you our guarantee, I. will, personally say to you here today, that I will identify people, and I will include myself in that group, that will personally guarantee, the money that, is being advanced by the City of Miami and I think that we can satisfy you to that extent and... " Mayor Suarez: Work that out in the next 14 days in accordance with the E ,< motion., Mr. Wright: ,Yes, we: will give you a personal guarantee for your $150,000 a' and... Y,. Mayor Suarez: 1f, the Commission'.doesn't want to -get' into, a" disc u ussion of the , terms that we would, , then you've' got 134 days to 'try o work ° it -out. We've got a motion and a.second. Any>further discussion? Call the _`roll: r k The following .motion .was introduced 'byCommissioner"Dawkins, ,who moved Its adoption 'MOTION :NO..'89-350` A MOTION REFERRING: TO THE CITY MANAGER FUNDING`REQUEST x.. FROM .SONNY " WRIGHT�',IN- CONNECTION WITH PROPOSED- REVITALIZATION/EXPANSION OF THE CARVER HOTEL; FURTHER DIRECTING THE MANAGER TO SIT .DOWN WITH MR WRIGHT AND o REPORT BACK TO THE CITY COMMISSION' ON APRIL' 27,_'WITH A' ® RECOMMENDATION; FURTHER -`DIRECTING THE, ADMINISTRATION 't .TO POSTPONE DEMOLITION OF THE CARVER'. HOTEL UNTIL'AFTER :. THE MEETING ON APRIL 27, 1989. - Upon being. seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the motion was passed and adopted by the following vote; F AYES: Commissioner,J. L. Plummer, Jr. : Commissioner Rosario Kennedy �7,-,• by Commissioner Miller:J. Dawkins ?ott; Mayor. Xavier L. Suarez NOESs Ngne.4 ^ ABS yTt VIce ,MaypvNictor ,Dc Yurre� +5 r t y i f G L� 'Ja+`/.sffWR!y'lJ qs PAS. {Continued jWRGENGY ORDINANCE: Establish uew special revenue fundbi (a) "Sumer Youth Employment and Training Program, '89/jTPA II_B", and (b) "DRRS/Entrant Assistance, FY '89" (See label` i._Y_i-_i-_-- --- " '.. . C; Mr. Plummers Can I do 387 Mayor Suarezi Thirty-eight, yes, you've got that resolved? } Mr. Plummer: The numbers have changed and we now have changed it over and put - two hundred and eighty in the Parks Department and increased it fifty in GSA. On this schedule, which is presented to me, I move item 38. Mr. Dawkins: Second. Mr. Plummart And I'm going to go around and check, by the way. Call the roll on 38. Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded, thirty-eight. Read the ordinance. Mr. Jorge Fernandez: No, it has to be read. Mr. Plummer: Well, read it. Mr. Fernandez: Four -fifths vote, and it requires two votes. Mayor Suarez: Call the roll. AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED AN EMERGENCY ORDINANCE ESTABLISHING, TWO NEW SPECIAL. REVENUE FUNDS ENTITLED': "SUMMER YOUTH EMPLOYMENT AND _ TRAINING PROGRAM, FYI. 89/JTPA II-B" r .AND "DHRS/MTRANT ASSISTANCE, FY'S'r APPROPRIATING FUNDS `FOR THE - OPERATION OF EACH IN ` 'THE RESPECTIVE , AMOUNTS° OF al: $895,432 AND :' $31',200, FROM, THE .SOUTH `.,FLORIDA EMPLOYMENT AND TRAINING, CONSORTIUM; AUTHORIZING; THE Ya CITY MANAGER TO ACCEPT THE GRANT: , AWARDS1FROM"THE SOUTH.. FLORIDA. EMPLOYMENT AND TRAINING :CONSORTIUM AND 'TO ENTER. INTO THE NECESSARY CONTRACTS) AND'/OR x AGREEMENTS) FOR THE ACCEPTANCE OF THE GRANTS; CONTAINING "A 'REPEALER PROVISION AND A SEVERABILITY ` CLAUSE. Was introduced by Commissioner Plummer and seconded by; Commissioner Dawkins,. for adoption as an emergency measure and dispensing with: the requirement of reading same on two ' separate 'days, which was 'agreed to by tfie' following votes AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Commissioner Rosario Kennedy Commissioner Miller Dawkins Mayor Xavier L. Suarez p Y NOES: None. ABSENT: Vice Mayor 'Victor De Yurre. 'K Nt Whereupon the ,Commission:on motion of CommissionerPlummer and secQmdsd ,s by Commissioner Dawkins, adopted said ordinance, by the,following votes t •.i}e < "d i f S�TdY�{ti'�.r.4 g h4 y§ h„ Cc NUB ABS=s Vi SAID O"INANCE a — w% - 3S. BMEItGBNCY O�tD#i�A m Establish funds *Sumer Food Bernice i'rbgr fair hil �tai► 9S9" Authoritb Njifiager to aetept grant aMard frt D60jrt Ent of Agrieuiture, Mayor Suarers item 41, Summer Food Service Program. Mrs. Kennedy% Move it. Mayor Suarers Moved. Mr. Dawkinss Second. Mayor Suarers Seconded. Any discussion? Read the ordinance. " Mr. Plummers Has that been bid yet? OK. That will go out to bid, correct? Mayor Suarers Call the roll. AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED AN EMERGENCY ORDINANCE ESTABLISHING A NEW SPECIAL R$VENUE'`FUND 'ENTITLED: "SUMMER FOODSERVICE PROGRAM FOR 'CHILDREN'- 19890` AND APPROPRIATING. FUNDS FOR THE OPERATION OF SAME IN THE: AMOUNT OF $199,75200; CONSISTING' OF A I -GRANT. FROM - THE. UNITED' STATES DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE THROUGH THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF.EDUCATION; AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER 1' TO ACCEPT THE GRANT AWARD FROM 'THE UNITED STATES. DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE AND TO EXECUTE:THE.NECESSARY DOCUMENT(S), :IN A FORM', -ACCEPTABLE TO THE CITY i ATTORNEY, FOR THE ACCEPTANCE OF THE GRANT AND IMPLEMENTATION. OF SAID. PROGRAM,- IN ACCORDANCE_ WITH APPLICABLE CITY.CODE PROVISIONS;, CONTAINING A REPEALER PROVISION AND A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE. m' Was introduced by -Comm issioner: Kennedy and seconded by Commissioner Dawkins, 'for'.adoption, as —an emergency measure and dispensing with the A ,3 requirement of reading same on two separate days, which was agreed 'to `by the , following vote:' r AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Commissioner Rosario Kennedy Commissioner Miller Dawkins Vice Mayor Victor De Yurre . Mayor -Xavier L,_Suarez - .... S - NOES: a' None. ABSENT: None.. Whereupon the Commission on motion of Commissioner Kennedy, and, seconded by,Commissoner.Dawkinsadopted said -ordinance by the following vote AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr._ Commissioner°Rosario Kennedy �� Commissioner Biller Dawkins ' Vide. -Ma r Victor De ' Yurre %''` Mayor Xavier L. Suarez E` x NOES s None. r , qy ABSENTa None; SAID ORDINANCE `WAS 'DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO. 1056$.:z f e d the =i ease Q thA :��= the City AtrQ�y r h 4 a p.., aano�nasd that copies were available to the m►embs Of is Git�� X7 J qq } J V t11� nigii •pp,.F r}yU ip5 t. y3x Jry `.J -�:#� •r I - 2f } x:T Yi i8. CONDITIONALLY AVORIZE DADE COUNTY TO ACCEPT SIDS I`O THPROVIDE 1j9DA „ APPROVED LUNCHES TO ELIGIBLE CHILDREN DURING SUMMER OF 1989. IYYYiri��ii,:-..•.....':rw�f�iiLrl�lYrli.rwll�wii�+Y.Yww�rw--ifYrw Mayor Suarez: Item 42.` r Mr. Plummer: Move Mayor Suarez: Moved. Mrs. Kennedy: Second. Mayor Suarez: Seconded on.item 42. Any discussion? Call the roll.' The following resolution pas introduced by Commissioner Plummer, i►ho ;. moved its adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 89-352 A. RESOLUTION CONDITIONALLY, AUTHORIZING METROPOLITAN DADE COUNTY ON BEHALF. OF' THE CITY OF ,MIAMI. TO - ADVERTISE FOR, EVALUATE, 'AND ACCEPT THE BID(S) OF'A VENDOR OR VENDORS TO PROVIDE UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE .(USDA) APPROVED MEALS TO ELIGIBLE CHILDREN DURING,, THE SUMMER OF 1989; FURTHER AUTHORIZING METROPOLITAN; DADE COUNTY TO ENTER INTO THE NECESSARY CONTRACT(S). AND/OR AGREEMENT(S) WITH THE SUCCESSFUL BIDDER(S).' (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on, f file in the Office of the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Commissioner Kennedy, the resolution .was passed and adopted:, by -the : fol lowing vote : , ;* AYES: Commissioner,J. L.-Plummer, Jr. r Commissioner, ,Rosario Kennedy Commissioner Miller.Dawkins Vice Mayor Victor De Yurre Mayor Xavier.:L.:--Suarez NOES: , . None.61 R1 ABSENT: None. t �, - -- --- ----- ---- ---------- - - 29. SECOND READING ORDINANCE: Amend. Ordinance '10484 - Increase appropriations for Special Programs & Accounts, International Trade t; Promotion and increase revenues from fees to be collected from "participants attending Second Miami Conference on InterAmerican;Trade and Investment,. MH yor, Suarez: Item, .43,, aacond reading of 'the. IV, _Mr. FA Rove it. lre )furze: Second seco .A layAr, Suarez: , . account. y f � Moved and aecattded, An . discueaionl: Reed tl}!t z; oidinaace. r Mr. Plummer: That wiil be paid back to the City from the fpee}R aoreob ,� �W� dry ir. ,_ • ,, h _ ��4 '0'��,�f�W. iir.. ,Tor8eh4rnandeZ:�` Yea. Plummer, Correct? Odibt Yes. Mr. Plummets Thank you. Mayor Suarez: Call the r611. AN ORDINANCE. AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTION 1 AND 5 OF ORDINANCE NO. Y~' 104840 ADOPTED SEPTEMBER 27, 1988, THE ANNUAL APPROPRIATIONS ORDINANCE FOR THE FISCAL YEAR ENDING SEPTEMBER 30, 1989, BY INCREASING THE APPROPRIATIONS FOR SPECIAL PROGRAMS AND ACCOUNTS, INTERNATIONAL TRADE PROMOTION IN THE AMOUNT OF $34,000 AND BY INCREASING ' REVENUES IN THE SAME AMOUNT FROM FEES TO BE COLLECTED_ FROM PARTICIPANTS ATTENDING THE SECOND MIAMI — CONFERENCE ON INTERAMERICAN TRADE AND INVESTMENT TO BE HELD ON MAY 3-5,.1989; CONTAINING A REPEALER PROVISION AND A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE. Passed on its first reading by title at the meeting of March 3, 1989, was taken up for its second and final reading by title and adoption. On motion of Commissioner. -Plummer, seconded by Commissioner De Yurre, the Ordinance was thereupon given its second and final reading by title and passed and adopted by the following vote: _ AYES: Commissioner J. Plummer, Jr. Commissioner Rosario Kennedy Commissioner Miller Dawkins Vice Mayor Victor De Yurre Mayor Xavier L. Suarez NOES: None. ABSENT: None. } THE ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO 10569. Y; i" The,_.;City, Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and I announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commission and ; to the ,public. ------- --------------------------- ------ ------- --- — -- —.,Y 30.. SECOND READING ORDINANCE: Amend Code Section 42-8 - Provide for assessment of charges for provisiop of special departmental services: Mayor Suarez: Item 44. Mr. Plummer: I don't understand it. Mr., Odio: Forty-four? Mr. Plummer: Yea, what does it do? 33 Mr. Odio: It's to reflect the assessment of charges for the proyis 032 'o a special, ,departmental services which., weare„ adjusted in. '.85 to comply w,thr opinion ,wxitten...by Attorney General's office to reflect actual cost of krFx duplication. T; Mr. Plummer: That means we re going ^to get realistic around here.uj, Mr. Odio: .;We're trying. c ` ;ilr.. `.. move. r4 1 TAX yam: . �',ltunmdxs `il M;p! Ke:}�+4dyf ondf k.n'lf ;✓Td - cf .... 416 { !I r 7! Mayor Suareet !loved and seconded. Any discussion? Read the ordinance. Call the roll. AN ORDINANCE _ AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTION 41-8 OF THE CODE OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA$ AS AMENDED, PROVIDING FOR THE ASSESSMENT OF CHARGES FOR THE PROVISION OF SPECIAL DEPARTMENTAL SERVICES; CONTAINING A REPEALER PROVISION AND A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE. Passed on its first reading by title at the meeting of March 3, was taken up for its second and final reading by title and adoption. On motion of Commissioner Plummer, seconded by Commissioner Kennedy, the Ordinance vas thereupon given its second and final reading by title and passed and adopted by the following votes AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Commissioner Rosario Kennedy Vice Mayor Victor De Yurre Mayor Xavier L. Suarez NOES: None. ABSENT:Commissioner Miller Dawkins THE ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO. 10570. The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commission and to the public.:: 31. SECOND READING ORDINANCES Amend Code Section 38-82 - Provide that the Bayfront Park Management Trust may reserve the park on behalf,:of the City for 30 days each year for community use"or Trust. sponsored"enents� -----------------------�� - ----- - Mrs. Kennedy: Move 45. . I Mayor'Suarers:- Forty =five's been moved. Second reading. Mr. Plummer: I'll second it', but discussion. Why is it in this thiog ;thaty in fact, you spell out like Community Chest, but you don't spell out other non profit' corporations? Mr. Odio: Ira? Ira Katz. Mr. Plummers. I'll ask this matter to bedeferreduntil I can get%my-answers." Mrs. Kennedy:` Well, this allows the trust to reserve the park for ,community use for 30 days out of the year. So if you want, I will make amend... Mayor Suarez: That was what we were before doing.right here on the Commissio � J.. � Yin t�ii!nt'l2';4i+gpt:hM4h Y !Mayor goatee: I flan, thattt what we've done. Read the ordinance: Cali the ft+bll AN ORDINANCE i AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTION 38-82 OF THE CODE OF THE CITY OF 141AMI, FLORIDA, AS AMENDED, TO PROVIDE THAT THE BAYrfto T PARK MANAGEMENT TRUST MAY RESERVE THE - PARK ON BEHALF OF THE CITY FOR THIRTY (30) DAYS EACH YEAR FOR COMMUNITY USE OR TRUST SPONSORED EVENTS WHICH =, _. IS IN ADDITION TO THE 50 PERCENT OF EACH YEAR THAT IS i RESERVED FOR COMMUNITY USE; FURTHER PROVIDING THAT THE 4a: TRUST MAY WAIVE AMPHITHEATER RENTAL FEES DURING n `f PORTIONS OF SUCH THIRTY (30) DAY PERIOD FOR NONPROFIT GROUPS= CONTAINING A REPEALER PROVISION AND A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE. Passed on its first reading by title at the meeting of March 3, 1989, }' was taken up for its second and final reading by title and adoption. On motion' of Commissioner Kennedy, seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the Ordinance was thereupon given its second and final reading by title and passed and adopted by the following vote: AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Commissioner Rosario Kennedy Commissioner Miller Dawkins Vice Mayor Victor De Yurre Mayor Xavier L. Suarez NOES: None. ABSENT: None. THE ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO.- 10571. The: City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record' and - announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commission and' to the public. r A 32. SECOND READING ORDINANCE: Amend Ordinance 10413 - Increase` appropriation to special revenue fund: "Pre -School Program Consolidated"' from program participation fees and designated food reimbursements from 'USDA: Mayor Suarez: Item 46, second reading. Mrs:' Kennedy: Move it. Mr. Dawkins:- Second. Mayor`Susrez: Increasing the appropriations, special revenue fund, pre-school - ♦,; Y program consolidated by 121,824. Moved and seconded. Any discussion?. Revd: ,• the ordinance. Call the roll::` AN ORDINANCE t f - AN ORDINANCE' AMENDING SECTION 1 OF ORDINANCE NO.. 4 10413, ADOPTED APRIL 14 1986, 7 .SFr INCREASING ,THE APPROPRIATION' TO THE SPECIAL REVENUES!FUND ENTITLEII_ "PRE. -SCHOOL PROGRAM CONSOLIDATED," BY $121,824, f, r COMPOSED -' OF $111, 000 FROM PROGRAM PARTICIPATION ;FEES AND $10,824 FROM DESIGNATED FOOD REIMHURSEMRNTS.FROM :THE'UNITED,::' STATES DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURRI CONTAINING A REPEALER PROVISION AND APT SEVERABILITY F ��z CLAUSE. f ' a ti s �y'R • ` • l i 3 t' k ;nf ifr. Odiot j*cus6 ma excuse me, excuse me. This is a grant from the State of hlorida. Mr. DaMkiinsI It's coning from an appropriation from the State of Ploridat tbatfa tho money, the State of Florida gave us to buy the..,. Mr, Plummer t Thank ' you. Mr. Odiot` Sorry. Mayor Suarezi State HRS, OK. Call the roll. Read the ordinance. Call the ' roll. AN ORDINANCE - AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTION 1 OF ORDINANCE NO. 10521, AS AMENDED, ADOPTED NOVEMBER 17, 1988, THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS APPROPRIATIONS ORDINANCE, ' BY INCREASING'` THE PROJECT 1ENTITLED" "FIRE RESCUE NEW APPARATUS ACQUISITION-FY 089" PROJECT NO. 313229 IN THE AMOUNT OF $65,000; APPROPRIATING FUNDS IN SAID' AMOUNT FOR SAID PROJECT FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH << 'AND ''REHABILITATIVE SERVICES GRANT; CONTAINING A REPEALER PROVISION AND A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.` Passed on its first reading by title at the meeting of March 3, 1989 was taken, up for its- second and final reading by title and adoption`. '-On motion of -`Commissioner Dawkins, seconded by Commissioner Plummer, •the Ordinance was -thereupon given its second and final 'reading by title'and`,pas end and adopted`by�the'following:votes :.. AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Comaiissioner-Rosario Kennedy, :Commissioner Miller Dawkins Vice Mayor Victor De, urre' Mayor Xavier`L. Suarez NOES' None. <: ABSENT - ;. "None."" - THE ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO."10573. is r The "City" Attorney read, the ordinance into the public record: and Mayor`Suarez: Item 48. Mr. Dawkinei Move it:. ti Mayor Suarez: Moved.' Mr. Odio: Yes, these are the bonds. -• tlr: Dawkins: And when we get to discussion, I have some discusslQn. Mr 1?e' Yurre: Seco:id Mayor Suarez: Roved a�td decQnded.oJmmlesictne^ 1- � Mr, Pi.umaaers What are we Q.n? h t 4 vx�.413�'�a . , , ' • �- yr= „z:�-,`u � , , Mayof� suaret: Item 0: Mt, 061o: Forty-eight: Mr. Pernandea: Forteight. y Mr'. Hawkins: Out of haste, and I need for the FOP (Fraternal Order of Pdlice" to hear as because we got to work together on this. Out of haste when we.had the ea:ergeney and one of our.good officers lost his life, we started retfring vehicles with 20,600 miles. Mr. Manager, some kind of a way, +we've got to find how to recycle them and if they're not good enough for police work,.iet!ie don't buy any more... I mean, some kind of a way we've got. to find,a May to certify that at 20,000 miles, a vehicle is not useless. Mr. Odio: That's right. _ Mr. Dawkins: See, now if, I mean, some and we got to sit down with FOP and we all of us come up with away because we keep buying vehicles and buying vehicles, we won't have,money to buy anything else. Mt. Odio: That's right, it's too stiff to replace them every two years and.:. Mr. Dawkins: But, as long as the FOP, I think, and I say this out of knowing them,, realize that we got the message about their safety, I think we'll be able to sit down and come up with something that we all can live with. Mr. Dick•Kinne: Commissioner Dawkins, for the record, my name is Dick Kinne, what_ you're asking,, we are, .talking. with president of the FOP. In regards to Ron Williams in regardsg to revising the whole schedule to see if something we can work with in regards to years, miles, and all that. So, it is being done. We are -working ;on it.. Mr. Dawkins: r OK,:thank you. Flayor 'Suarez: Thank- you. We have a motion and a second on .48. Anq:' discussion?, Read the ordinance. Mr —Plummer: Question, I have a question. e, Mayor Suarez: Question,.Commissioner. Plummer.. ` h " F. Mr. Plummer: What,, -is a.certificate,of.participation note.?. Mr..Dawkins: Ha,,.ha,, ha. Mr. Odio: This - we sold them back in 186, we were creating arbitrage. i �I Mr., Fill —or. In 186.: . Mr. Odio: In ,186 we,sold $60 million dollars... Mr. Plummer: Is that under... Mr. Dawkins: That .was the, notes we sold J L. those were the notes v►e sold when we got the -bright idea to buy notes to purchase the vehicles with instead: ;;1 _! of purchasing them outright and take the.;iaterest.,from the, money of the no so. and pay oft the note, that's... ht: Mr. Plummer: All right, I have a list of all of the outstanding bonds of the — Qity of Miami. Mr Odios. That's not:oae. Ir. Plummer: WQil, then I':a not .gotting the ;troe pictur4, t#iat'$, x►�oit'r�,` I'm trY. inB to make gv J F idiot , aese are: not bons ty, qo are•.certificates ot,. '2"x Th ► f+� Mayor FiLlalflZ: OK,'when we get the ze7Gt -lint, take it ,tipQt►g taz tae�.e�ag� o BOA City and that will cover it _� A. { r. ... - . - ,. _ t - .i a`'�,-i u � C rstY'•x, �:..+� Y..Y3E}s��"ffr$'ha., ..'2_ 1, Mr, bdi6t_ hall, actually, this finishes the sixty million anyway of the, :'.. certificate of partiaL .. Mr. l►lutwnart but then, itta still the debt and the indebtedness to pay "thath 1 6ff is still here. -+ Mr. Oliot. We have. Mayor Stuareas It's a long term indebtedness, so please, let's add it in so that we know the different categories of debt. Mr. Plummer: I'm sorry that we're playing semantics. You're telling me that' this,,figure which I have here of remaining outstanding indebtedness of $2Dk r} million dollars is not a correct figure? Mr. Carlos Garcia: No, air, except that those certificates are not bonds. That's why they:are not listed here. Those are certificates. Mr. Plummer: Now, all right, well, excuse me —.does that reflect.in the bonds or the - where's the City Attorney, Bob's not there? We were limited by 15. percent.,. Mr. Fernandez: Right: Mr. Plummer: .All right?` Mr: Garcia: That's right.` Mr. Plummer: Are you telling me that the certificates of participation are.. not included in. this?. Mr. Garcia: The fifty... Mr. Fernandez: The; code, provision, speaks, to. bonds.. Now yes, general obligation bonds; Mr. Plummer: So, in other words, can circumventthe.law all" day long by,: calling them by another name. I think that I, as a Commissioner, 'have some;.' r right. Mayor; Suarez: _.Tax increment bonds? ReVenue,bonds? { Mr. Plummer: No, no, no, I have a separate sheet on revenue. Mayor Suarez: The. equipment. notes .that we were just discussing. So afar, three different animals that we'can use. Mr. Plummer: ,.Let me.ask-a question.. Is this :what you call -special revenue'; refunding bonds.' series 87? Is that where this is coming from?- ® -. . Mr. Garcia: Yes,'sir: Mayor.Suarez: No, I.think..: z, !!r. Garcia: No,.,thia is. not coming from .there.. Mr. 'Plummer: Well, that was $65 million dollars, what... Mr. Ctarc,tas That's` right. u Y aif{f��u Nr Plummer: Huh? n,g7$ t Mr Garcfai That is arigh. s; n i'iummer: The total bond 4biigation at this particular Lia►e eCae�aSQQ`';Y`�h taillion? - Mr Garcias.. Sir, �►ou have to ad�l l on;',thgiret ,schedu Opt dh0. # ` i 'tif ryrkYi�G.: K.. le 9A c n a $ 0�. million dollars -general obligot lc , outstanding fir, Plummer:' Tbat s CorrlfCt• ,, ' 'r41+�� 1'�� ,s- :� c r{vvl t' f ut j ai?w.t 1 r 'i- ��iT2 x.�. `.. ti . ,., s . - .r- � -K � r3 ,+q.,,..a1—Tlte,'i-`7 ; .4• �'Vi��. # R Mrs Circlet And on the second schedule the amount... tlr� Flossier: One rreventP=setrea+ .< Mr. Ctraise (tight. Mr. Plummer: OK, but that doesn't tell me anything: If you're tellingae;we got the to called certificate of participation notes for $60 million dollars... Mr. Garcia: Sixteen, one six. Mr. Plummer: One, six? Mr. Garcia: One, six, yes, sir. Mr. Plummer: OK, how much of that is out there? Mr. Garcia: Most of it. I don't have the number. Mr. Plummer: No, no, no. Besides that $16 million is there any other long term indebtedness by this City? Beside pension?: Mr. Garcia: The $16 million dollars is not long term, it's only six years. In addition to: that, we have the computer which is five or :seven million dollars which is also six years. Mayor Suarez: For fixed... — Mr. PlAl—er: But, it's still a long term indebtedness. Mr. Garcia: It's not considered... Mayor Suarez: Yes, for fixed goods or durable equipment, we occasionally, use. other borrowing.systems. We should have a separate schedule for .those. Mr:. Garcia: -Those_:are:included in the financial statements, but... - N Mayor Suarez: So ,.we -know what :our total indebtedness beyond,..a-year Mr. Plummer: May I ask that you furnish me then... (� h = Mr. Garcia: Yes, sir, I can get you that. Mr. Plummer: ... a copy of the indebtedness of this City. You know what.I'm trying to get to: Mr. Garcia:. This is 95_percent of the indebtedness of.the City. O Mr._ Plummer: Well, it .cant be 95 percent because we got two hundred and { twelve million in pension. That's indebtedness. Mr. Garcia: It's a liability. Mr. Plummer: ,You call it:whatever.the hell you want, it$s got. to.ba paid for. by the taxpayers;, �T I R R Mr. Odic: Actually, it!s:, not two,; hundred .and twelve, r it's. four hundredeft forty-eight million.; Mr. Plummer: Fine, I want a number telling me... t Mayor Suarez: P.reseat value is 20Q million.. '..'Give .net the thole` picture, . h t„.. Mr. Pluaimerx That's Mhat .I rant. Y _ Mayor Suarez: of what our , obl igat ipns are in the next 11 ors t$tl t years# that' ll help. _ ,F It. Gore 14i vo'11 $et you than k<; A :. r nt th�a +�hst�e�r this w aka! dot �zt the d�R#t ��! nf�� ; r 11 3� '�rS > ..., _ �r� . . t.= _. t u ..- r :. ... • _ . .. ... . . ., 4 ... � .. .. .. . {Y .� Z.l �. -.,. � r. �ePiT-; .. . ASfES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. C6ftirrior er Rosario Kennedy Commissioner Miller Dawkins Vie* Mayor victor Ds Turre :. !Mayor Xavier L. Suarez - NOES: hone. ASSENT: None. The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commission and to the publicr 35. BRIEF DISCUSSION AND TEMPORARILY TABLE PROPOSED FIRST READING ORDINANCE' - AMENDING ORDINANCE 10521 - by establishing new projects "Preliminary — Special Obligation Bond expense FY 189" (No. 311013) (See label 44).: .. Mayor Suarez: Item 49 then. Mr. Plummer: All right, explain to me the preliminary special obligation bond. expense: of 189. Mr. Carlos Garcia: Right. The City Commission approved in January, the Issuance of up to $13 million dollars in bonds to fund various capital; projects. Half those - capital projects are to be paid_ through _,Sunshine_,State committee funds. The other.half will•have:;to be funded through a`bond sale. In addition to that, we may need to also fund acquisition of equipment, trawling. equipment, ` .which may also be included in: that_ bond, ..sale , :.At this,-.. time, what.we're asking the City Commission to do is to approve a budget for: the preliminary,expense. so"that, : if, we, need to start charging items again' Ike:': printing a financial statement, we'll be able, to do so. Mr. Plummer: And the projects, very briefly, Mr. Manager? One was Range' Mr. Odio:. You .had,,;the Range .pool, you .had; the., money set..aside for a you .._ center,, that $3 million dollars, you had the Legion Park mini station,, :pier{ five facility -`by -the way, I'm negotiating with the Rouse,Company-something; there -maybe the Marine Stadium structural repairs, Coconut 'Grove Exhibition,° Center:,. the. air- conditioning •.;system. replacement,; Coconut ,Grove ;.Exhib#id# Center.expansion that.we needed the $2 million dollars that to finish this job here.and that's it. ® Mr. Dawkins: ... we were supposed to fund with the Sunshine park fund? . Mr. Odio: Well-, the Athalis Range,pool is one of "them.. = " Mr. Dawkins: What are the others? Mr. Olio: Well, we're only getting, what? -how many, eight million dollars?,. You' re- ° doing the. -Coconut. Grove Exhibition Center for $2 millioaq dollarsl Legion Park police mini _station for seventy thousand, Range': or, ow in pool,°", $2,million,,. one.,hundred, pier, five facility, a .million .fives M,irine . Stadium, atructural'repairs,.$354,000; and.'the Coconut Grove Exhibition Centsr` sir conditioning system. replacement. and upgrade, $443,000.` That totals 2 460498,000. ; rAw I� Mr. Dawkins. s. Whero is'the .money for Commissioner De Yurre's youth faolit)►RG,> ' '��un�,r4 !!r. Odloi That wilimp l come from a now bond iasue that''s what... Mr. Dawkins: No, It {wan not _'OK I don! t know, I �m gola>q tq ],et hlm iAk, r because L. I'.Xl lei; l�lm spoak to that. : )!r: luwor No it wss not iAcluded is ti pis r portioo: .. .. r i �, !!r. DaNkIne 3 Why? v r r bIgCUSS. ab VIIMMV 09WHA Ct 11'Ci Olilit — < fsstANC9 or 60tKA ;OgLICATION $ONiJS in prineiphl< a mint.: bf $2501010 000 to -satisfy 'iegal obligation of the City regarding annual contributions to pension fund., Mr. De Yurre: Well, I question a question on... Mr. Plummen' Where are" we? Mayor Suarez3 Vice Mayor De Yurre, you had a question? Mr. De Yurre: Yes, I have a question on fifty. Mayor'Suarez3 It was withdrawn. Mr.' De Yurre: Even though it was withdrawn. Mayor Suarozi Withdrawn, Mr. Vice Mayor. Mr. De Yurre: But I just want to know what the withdrawn means. Cesar, item 50 was withdrawn, 'does that mean that -this $250 million dollar bond issue is - out' of the picture? Mr. Odic:, Oh no, on the contrary. Mr. Plummer': He, we:Nish. Mr: Odio: I`,wish Icould do` that. Mr be' Yurre : ' OK,, because the `is, I got a lot 'of people`; that have= seen . ,thing this, and ^ 'are asking `me about ' it 'and I need to come back to them -:with ' something. Mr. Odio: Well, yes, you can tell them that we're coming back with more :;than one proposal. What I"wanted`to`do'is explore other alternatives w ich`we{are doing with ti he` Law Department and other sources and then we'll comeback:with more than one alternative. Mr. De Yurre: So you know what is an alternative. and what' isn't an alternative. I'f ` this means what` was explained''to me `that's `about` a 25 percent increase in the taxpayers liability, there's no way that i can vote ;for this. Mr. Odic: Well, I think that Just ''saying; that' I= v:ould have to 'go through' ' the whole item to explain to qou why weIre`doing-this and-vhere did this. come1ro:m_ and to'. just` take that part would not be fair.: ' It would not be''right. Mr. Plummer: It can't be a 25 percent, it's a hundred percent. Mr. De Yurre: Well,, that's... Mr. Odio: It its not a 25 percent increase of the taxpayer. Mr Ds Yurre:' That's what they, you*know,'that 4as` expressed me. Hr. Odio: It's transfer.., � Mr. Plummer: �Jo, it's a hundred percent liability on the taxpayers.';, ksfap Mrs. Kennedy: Um hum.. ry u # Mr De Yurre: Yeas, 'but it a an' increase of 25 percent of oA the ` a"verage, 6& S Alr:.Plummer`' Oh' ..I-t�ouldn't' it. Od.io. What yy0u'ree doing is'' moving the deaf from dabt sorvice n:ilage P t✓� t _ dry 1 S F4� 'i � t i ST' Mr. be Turret but you're just adding it, you know... �If� Odin but it you d6 it like that slid qbu transfer that to the debt tier ric , ybu are increasing the debt service millage, but at the aamo ' titer, you're reducing the regular millage. Mr. De Turret but that is not what I've heard. Mr. Odiot to that is not an increase. Mr. De Turret But what I've heard is that the millage was not going to be reduced and Ve're just going to add the tax burden. Mr. Odiot No, that's not, that's why I think to take this piecemeal like that -is not correct to do so. Mr. De . Turret Well, then, the . people are doing it don't know *shot they're talking about because that's what they expressed to me. Mr. Odiot If I sawn the report they presented to you, they said that they would transfer the obligation from the Gates Case, which dates back to 1975,_ transfer that to the debt service millage. That would increase the debt service millage. At the same time, it would reduce the revenue millage by 1.48 of the millage, it would reduce it to 8.001 At that point `'gotihave. reduced the millage and you have 'increased the other one so you must come Out about the same. 'Now, however,'that gives you 2'mill age , two points. Mr. Plummert But before you get much ahead of the game... Mr. De Turret Two points to raise again. Mr. Odio: That's why.I don't want to., Mr. Plummer: You better put on the record, right now,that that is a fifty- fifty;vhether'legally that can be done. 5 Mr. lOdtoe We11, ;that's wily I. t Jn Maybe tuttofit Uhat was the total it aa6sn't sound like thirty but, any how, what is the total of our real estate tax revenues? It's not $890000,000. Mr. bdiot 2t's about eighty-nine to ninety million dollars. Mayor Duarest Uhat is the total...? '. Mr. plummert only 27 portent of our budget is from advalorem. Mayor, Suarez? It's a hundred million almost. Anyhow, it's 22 'percefit, roughly. Anything further on this issue? 37. DISCUSS AND DEFER FOR FURTHER STUDY PROPOSED FIRST READING ORDINANCE CONCERNING AMENDMENT OF CODE CHAPTER 4 ("Alcoholic Beverages"77-7 ). y' -------- -----------......_---------------_- - Mayor Suarez: Item 51. Mr. Guillermo Olmedillot Item 51 is the first reading to an amendment to the City Code, chapter 4, Alcoholic Beverages. What we attempt to do with this is define the retail specialty centers and relax some of the distance requirements. Mr. Plummer: How_do you define it? Mr. Olmedillo: In page four.of your _packet... Mr. Plummer: You -tell me on the record. Mr. Olmedillo: It is larger than 50,000 square feet, they're self' contained;' they, have retail use and at least one of the following `types of usessy hotel, residential; movie theater, or office use. They have to. be s`unified plan of development, which shall include, but not limited to, plans providing for the' different uses in the development of the physically integrated through direct, access, from one -to the other. And. parking provided, by an on site enclosed: garage And all project uses under common management. ,f Mr. Plummer': And that will 'allow them to sell on Sunday.;,; — f Mr. Oimedillo: That will, that will. Mr. Plummer: So in other words, if ou a.bi 'y g of g place*, they can get drunk:. If you got a small place, they can't get drunk.. Mr. Olmedillo: The idea is that we have a different form of development such e as a.... . Mr. Plummer.: Well, I'm against Sunday sales, OK? You do what you want, Mr. Olmedillo: The retail specialty centers are such... Mr.' Dawkins: You know; you know but, you see, 3 agree with-J. L , you see;; you _come ;in with retail specialty center as a smoke screen in order to-'allotp; Sunday, sale of liquor. That's all. we're doingsee., tir. Oiznediilo: Well; both ,I shouad ,point out, it's not only Sunday but then the distance requirements are different so I went you too point $t �u�t � � i _ for the rec'oard Mr. D'awkinss See, and now,., and then 'you want .to lilminate al"i £ r „separation requirements for these ,centers pextaiping , to churchept: esho4�s 'you're coping' that we can 'sell``1lquo' , right "next `¢oar 'to the .'school Mr. Oledilicts We1',' if', you. think.`of Otani, 'for "'Tlsteue, ithic#t is ge��r} ,k,�t onta,nnd developzent, �A f {L, F S fJ5 y�1�Pp��•}, ]21 Mri Oluedillo: What we're thinking is that within that development, which is self contained... Mr, Dawkins: Right Mr. Olmedillos you may have, regardless of the distance requirements because what happens is that it's self contained and it's not exposed to the exterior which is what the liquor laws were based on the fact that,you had,a bar right.. next to a. church or a bar right next to a school. Now, this is a different form of development because if you think of Omni, which is a good example or the Miracle Center, which is another good example... Mr. Dawkins: Then it says in here that the Omni could have 20 percent of its space in liquor stores. Mr. Olmedillo: Twenty percent of the tenants, that is correct, sir. Mr. Dawkins: Oh, so now visualize Omni and take out 20 percent of what you've got thereand put liquor stores. Mr. Plummer: What does this allow them to do that they can't do yesterday? — Mr. Olmedillo: Well, you have restaurants, let's say Miracle Center... Mr. Plummer: Yes,. but I mean they could sell on Sunday from 1:00 in the. afternoon until 7:00 at night, correct? That's present. Mr. Olmedillo: Right. Mr. Plummer: So are you saying that if you got 50,000 square feet or more, they can.sell liquor any time? - Mr. Olmedillo: You get back to the hours of operation which are -listed aleo inyour package so I am, quoting from the... yes, the problem is not so much the days and I should.... Mr.:Plummer.: My question please... Mr. Olmedillo: Yes. Mr. Plummer:. Would.you answer -my question? 'f — F Mr. Olmedillo: Yes. Mr. Plummer: What does this ordinance allow them to do today they couldn't do z4; yesterday? ,. Mr.,Olmedillo: Nothing. Under five, you will see... Mr. Plummer::: Nothing? Mr. Olmedillo; No. ® Mr..Plummer: Then if,I vote against,.the re'1.1 be. no problem., What the hell difference does -•it make,if it„doesn't.da,anything? Mr. Olmedillos Now under..five,, under five „ andn page,five, U4d.0r Uumher1 fivg you., w i i . f Ind, that the only ,underlined .word ,.that you:., have:..the+re : v ch is ,the „5 one that , is the, ; change that, was, suggested. is ,that ,we're ;adding that retail p — jie. ratisrfront ppecialty.'center.. Again, as. an exaaaple,. ,this -is exge: ly the" 4t. K +¢ame o;eiinance that we used for,; Be yside inGwhich we' had :.a ,Orob}e6i boa u p�,14 had different restaurants which were ,vezy close ,tea each other. tAadh�* h,j�. beceus.e of the distance requirementa,, they couldn't dispense l q pr �w, `f ter, �iummer; AQpa this give them additional hours? 4' _., 0M'•Ol Cp 1 s+„ iacl �Q$ that$;he��,�,� �cAia NFL r4� geet4r; sva.h: as gayside, ,but it.. dos'nit give thAm Ado. tics i , 44r �Y . \f fi t f t: .. !. z ` •°. i 1 rT ' i .S ,M ..�F r � �� {.'i3''$+�• � { � !� i '- xt�Piwsrt►a �Je:ll� i yQw'�¢ 'tal�iagms that ,'phi$ Q.�diAa.�D�4�floeAs}�� `�y�•' diff rpm y+esteyday,,►• ii �n i. di e Y .f �€vu •. Ck 3E i ttr. tliieediiiot N60 the distanei requirements are lifted. Mri. Renr:edyt 'The distance requirements to churches and places like than are eYimi�it�tbd. -. , Mr. Oltviadlllot Arid within themselves between... Mr., Piueoser: So you're proposing in this. ordinance, to eliminate those d stanes requirements. Mr. Olined,tllo: Right, that is correct. Mr. plui inert Vrong. Mr..01medillo:for those specialty centers as we did with Bayside. Mr. P111m er: Wrong. Mr. Dawkins: Sir, I'm going to read to you from your own five. "The hours of sale for alcoholic beverages by the following establishments are weekdays including Saturdays from 7:00 a.m. to 5:00 o'clock a.m. on the follow ng day,: Sundays, from 12:00 noon to 5:00 a.m. on the following day." M- ' dlmedillo:' Right, what I pointed out to you was that the only word that. we included there was that at the bottom you have an underlined word ,which — says,"Retail, or waterfront, specialty center." This is the concept that we a did apply to the waterfront specialty centers which. is Bayside. Now, the. same concept was to be 'applied to what we _call these specialty, centers, such. as; like I mentioned, Omni, Miracle Center.. Mr. Plummer: Can I' read to you from the agenda and maybe you tell' me where I'm wrong? Mr.`'Olmediilos`' Yes`, sir. Mr: Plummer: "...By providing an exception for Sunday sales and establish,. hours,.of,operation _for retail specialty centers." Mr. Olmedillo: Right, because if we are. creating the retail specialty center,; you have `to provide `hours of operation' for -'thoas' particular 'one's -<which' saying ,are similar to the one we used for, Bayside and they are: as Commissioner 4 Dawkins pointed out' Mr. Plummer: isle got too damn manner liquor establishments now. Debby,Orshevsky,,,Esq.: May I be recognized? Mayor Suarez: Counselor. Ms. Orshevaky: H name is Debby Orshevsky, L'm an attorney with offices �._ 1221"Brick'11 Avenue. On behalf of a group of our various number of clients, one being Miracle Center, the other being a proposed. development, the arickell. Gateway project,' being proposed by Property Planned' Development and the`"' lili Brickell project which is; being proposed by the Property Planning Groups bath ; of which Mill be' ia`front of you in' the. next cozait:g >Qonths. Wa" approached t¢ a Planning Department and l`sked, -for their support on " the''proposed 'ordiiiaace r ,�r because a problem "ca>ne up' similar to the one that, we er►countered, xith; the Bayside Specialty Center.. Because of the spacing requiremente,prov�ded y%pde� 7 r the;' stand ard code, which are not allowed to be 'varied eo "_"that you�`dost ;.a y the, discretoa on a case by' .case basia to do 'the evaluation that "yqu ,obouid have were' "there a 'variance .situation 'created..:- But ' we have restriction against things, `like, at Bayside, theLat �sJakea :D¢icir t° t v Dd�` E� •, r$f3 which "just serves alcohol ic; beyeragAd and the otk}er alcohol icz'b4�va�ig�A1' that are tqd to restaurants, :`ax thatg:aller 4 restaurants, Y:xe {r; distsnce problem is riot 'so much as between:,, schools and churches, gartiq riir _ ►th .respecto th9,projeeta I've r4ferred to: 'iiuyt ",terp,ome re�•t?'�'''`* }Y�'' gesn 1 have say :tr, OGO square f eat And 29 seat: whirl Wa id ► aelfs y it from these requiremeAta' flora laces lii' a Le M.ea D� !?1ysi�f t l i p � (` � ri , M", of bar'diac4 thL,. yQ�'#lad la plane lice JliracleyA¢r +hch'e `2+ iAve A-`pxa9ale Fit ?'tresdays;-'w i 4 serves` �usir �l gti � oc�d , id , aA 4werring `,' eaii�artainmest >T go: to the movies; ' shop �►lirid x,m�te ,3�A , i. . ' NT'i43f#tome r + r ------- ;i t x V because .the mixed use development that is being proposed for the two future developments on Brickell Avenue, as well as the existing one at Miracle Center, Omni is an example, Mayfair is another example of an integrated use. Vhat's trying to be done at these new centers is to create a real level of evening excitement and an entertainment center and have different you're laughing... but to have a real mix of types of restaurant choices not all of which are 4,000 square feet and 200 seats. That's a rather large restaurant, _ similar to like a Fridays. 'Toward that end, we sought the proposed amendments, but it was really to distinguish these multi -use developments that tend to have not experience the type of saloon atmosphere that you might find ;- at a free standing bar, but rather an environment that is more in keeping with an ability to have multiple restaurants that happen to serve alcohol, but they don't serve enough food to qualify for the other spacing requirements under the code. With respect to these developments, we're asking for a similar type of liberalization of the spacing requirements that was granted for Bayside. Only here, they are only asking that 20 percent of the total number of tenants would be permitted to have... "'— Mayor Suarez: Let me find out what proposed projects would take advantage of this. Mr. Olmedillo: The proposed one will be Brickell Gateway; maybe 1111 Brickell, which is also proposed; maybe Grand Central, which is on the way _ also. We haven't seen what is proposed for the Columbus McAllister site but we know that they're coming in with... Mayor Suarez: You know, in view of those three, Grand Central never mentioned anything about any such intent on their part for the first phase of what they have announced so far, and the other two, well, we really haven't gotten all that close to beginning either one of those, we could certainly do without this ordinance for a long time and the City wouldn't be affected. What is the need or the imminence or whatever the term is for this ordinance?, t Ms. Orshevsky_: The immediate need is at Miracle Center which would like to be able to provide some more of the... Mayor Suarez: How come you didn't say Miracle Center? Mr. Olmedillo: I did mention Miracle Center a couple of times, sir. Ms. Orshevsky: It's in.your recommendation too. Mayor Suarez: In other ,words, one. that's, already built and.it!s already. in - operation,. now needs the .ordinance in.-.. kk' Mr. Plummer: Sure. s Mr. Olmedillo: Yes, I thought you were ;ef... Mayor Suarez: ... with retroactive application. ss� - Mr. Olmedillo: Right. Ms. Orshevsky:. They realized it as they begantolease out the balance of the restaurant space. This means, by the way, the 20 percent in a center .like - Miracle Center, means that they couldn't have more than,say seven - actually, „Y six - establishments serving alcoholic beverages because that's the 20 percent. "f of their total number of tenants. Mayor Suarez: Couldn't wedraft an ordinance that would be less far reaching, than this and that would take care of the need of Miracle Center in a way .that 'fix would satisfy this Commission? Mr. Plummer: I think your problem, Mr. Mayor,is, is how do' you, defend other ;part of ..the code in the smaller' operations that are not in` a.:unifled' cont er'and enforce the distance requirements on them? Nqo . ".Ora ovaky: Commissioner Plummer, we considered that point and distinction is that in these` multi use developments 'as defined in:this' � ' o"dinancg, there is a, common management that, quite .franCly, has enore� �aA�, r' about the type of tenant'that comes in there' and that they're riot going 'a ale+�zy kind of ' bar' atmosphere because, number one, the rents are 1 - 140 a `Fw�'*a i,i ''n"i'.'+.i• { «F iLL 1 1' and .stu�t►ber two, the - coeamon manager, would not want to have that type of establishment so that you have a greater level of control that you do in an iOdepeddent free standing structure. Mr. Plussaeri I've made my. thoughts. known. Mayor $uarast. Guiliermoi any answer to:the question of how this might 6e made to solve the problems of Miracle Center without having such far reaching implicationot Mr. Olmedillo: More restricted to we hate... Mr. Plumnar:, is that the same Miracle Center that promised to pay two 010,000 to a given charities that is not paid it yet? Is that the same Miracle Center? v: Mr. Olmadillot One and the same. Mr. Plummer: Is that... Ms. Orshevsky: I beg your pardon, Commissioner Plummer, that was sent out last week. Mr. Plummer: Mr. T. Willard Fair. Ms. Orshevsky: Guillermo, have you received that? « Mr. Plummer: Mr.., T. Willard Fair. Mr. Olmedillo: Not I. Mr. Plummer: He'll -come back and tell you that it might have -been, sent;,- out but,he doesn't know where. OK, is that the same Miracle Center? Do we inspect elevators? Mr. Olmedillo: Yes, air. Mr. Plummer: How come they had three nights in a row with`people.stuck in elevators.and this City- didn't,go_over there and find;out why? .,I would like ' report., back.., Mr. T. Willard Fair,. ,representing ahe;Urban.Leaguethis'ledy r says that the checks were sent out. Did you receive them? What checks? - y. .. Me. Orshevsky: Commissioner. Plummer, we .were directed to send it through. the ;. Planning* Department and I will check with my client because I personally provided them the full in... to the client, the.•fulI information to:.get,rthose cheeks passed through. Mr. Plummerf , Whose name did you make the check out to? z Ms..,Orshevsky: We were directed.to make one out to the Project GRAP and one to the City of Miamiwith the direction to the other fund and I don't recall - which onethat was.. Mr. Plummers_ Well, that wasn't the direction, OK. Ms. Orshevskq::_;Whatever was in the. ordinance .is.what the checks weal beame¢e'' ' Out t0." sJ r { S _FifSY' Mr. Plummer;, It,:was to the .Urban League. Ms. Orshevsky:; Yhen, that's what .the :,check wAs made out.,to, . •.. _ - kir. Plumtaer: Mr, FFair, would .you report l back to this Commission, it Mr Dat�kias: Whenever, yow;gox..;• 4 'max zt`�n t 1. i_ c ?i. ,«.z j ": : .. ,.' ,".� _ �, ?1 f%^Y.' • Mr, Plunrgers Even if' they send: the check collects yQu ;Fay the g� cegt ytag�l' Q map teimb�isne Mrs• y 4R0t�4�dy� Wall, .if, hey,ws�ra Oa t to 1'.lacAih$� why dog�t i Olmad,illy Cr Mef �io. • • 9 «y4 J !c 1, 7 1X : i 9 f !; hr.. t •T r ,P+ '• y.. i k«'},"vY„c •}n' ,' r « .'i ' - - '.i « «�'Cti r'•f+f`n>. is .,oek�+ - . k r`i , 1 t{ Mt•. �iO{�f i�11M1�= Mr i'lners �lr. Rodriguet�t Mr, Olmediito: As to your question, Mr. Mayor, we cannot be selective in zne sense that we tan be discriminatory. He can be selective in the sense that we want a certain Kass and a certain character of the development and that's what we're trying to do. gut we're saying, you have to have more than 5b,000 square feet, you have to be self-contained, you have to be under one management, that kind of a thing so that it wouldn't impact the immediate neighborhood or the immediate area and that's as close as we can cut it. Mr. Plummer: Why don't we defer this thing Mrs.'Kennedyt go ahead. Mr. Plummert I move that it be deferred for further study. Mrs. Kennedy: Second. Mayor Suarett So moved and seconded. Mr. Plummer: The next two or three years. Ms. Orshevsky: Can I bring it back to you when I bring my checks? Mr. Plummer: Next two or three years. _ Mayor Suarez: Be creative, Guillermo, on trying to figure out how it could _ apply to as few projects --as possible and not necessarily some that are going to be in the future but an existing one that obviously needs to take advantage. of this. v.. I- v_.. _ et.. T silt A- , E AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED- AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTION 1 OF ORDINANCE 10455, ADOPTED JULY 14, 1088, BY INCREASING THE APPROPRIATION TO THE SPECIAL REVENUE FUND ENTITLED "JTPA TITLE I/OLDER WORKER (Fy '89)" BY $600, THEREBY INCREASING THE APPROPRIATION FOR SAID SPECIAL REVENUE FUND TO $21,1001 ALSO INCREASING THE APPROPRIATION TO THE SPECIAL REVENUE FUND ENTITLED "JTPA TITLE IIA/NEIGHBORHOODS JOBS PROGRAM (FY '89)" BY $51,617, THEREBY INCREASING THE APPROPRIATION FOR SAID SPECIAL REVENUE FUND TO $543,457 FOR THE OPERATION OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS JOBS PROGRAM. Was introduced by Commissioner Plummer and seconded by Commissioner Kennedy and was passed on its first reading by title by the following vote: AYESs Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Commissioner Rosario. Kennedy Commissioner Miller Dawkins Vice Mayor Victor De Yurre Mayor Xavier L. Suarez NOES: None. ABSENT: None. The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commission and. to the public. 39,` EXECUTE AGREEMENT WITH SYLVESTER A. LUKIS - for professional legislative consultant.services concerning Federal legislation impacting on City of Miami. (lobbyist) Mr. Plu aer: This is -the time to pass that resolution. Mayor guarat: Yet, that and who's generally skeptical of the value of lobbyists, I have to say that he really, really has a way in Washington, b.C., and I think to:just about the same.extent in Tallahassee. And the amounts are quite reasonable for the work that he does as facilitator and someone who monitors legislation and gets us the appropriate contacts to do our own influence peddling. Call the roll. Mr. Plummer: Legal influence peddle... Mrs. Kennedy: Let the record reflect that I feel the same. He has great` personal contacts and he was... Mr. Dawkins: Mr. Lukas, they were praising you when you were in my office. Mrs. Kennedy:. Excuse me, Mr. Dawkins, I was making a statement. This is the second time today. He was able to defeat the ten percent cutback _in CDIBG, block grants and he was extremely helpful with the homeless issue. Yes, yes, I'm finished. Mr. Plummer: Where's Mr. Lukis? Where did he go? Mr. Dawkins: OK, because I don't want to cut you off again. Mr.: Plummer: Mr. Lukis, come up to the microphone. Did you hear the resolution that I got passed here this morning? Mr. Sylvester Lukis: No, sir. Mr. .'Plummer: I passed a resolution out of absolute frustration at Washington in reference to spending $70 million dollars cleaning up their back yard in', drugs. -;You know what they're going to do, they're going to run them all out of there back yard back down into our yard. Mr. Lukis:. -Yes, sir. Mr., Plummer:t -, Now, I think it is only. logical that if the Washington, keeps telling us that we're number one in drugs, that'$70 million: dollars ought to; come to -. community and I hope whatever you can. do Shen you go back to k Washington,as our lobbyist, representing us, that you'll raise .holy hell and", r whow-the discontent.of.this City. Mr. Lukis:.:Yes,'.'sir, I will .do,that. Hr. Plummer.: Thank you, sir. Mr. Lukis:; Thank you. _ Mrs. Kennedy: Call the roll. Mayor Suarez; Call the roll. The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who., moved its adoption: ; RESOLUTION NO. 89-354 A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING:? THE CITY,:. MANAGER TO EXECUTE ' AN AGREEMENT, IN A FORM ACCEPTABLE, TO THE .CITY �f ATTORNEY, :WITH. SYLVESTER A. "'1UKIS,:. FOR PROFESSIONAL+ :LEG.ISLATIVE _CONSULTANT SERVIC$S,.'CONCERNING'. I'EA RAL ;` may. LEGISLATION WHICH IMPACTS ON THE CITY OF. ALLOCATING. {;THBEEFOR ':AN :. AMOUNT . NOT TO } ;{ y EXCEED" $k'�,000 =I'OR : SUCH :S,ERVICES;. IN . ANC AMOUNT NOT TO : SXCERD :534,000 . FOR. RRIMBURSABLE EXPENSES FROM THE LEGISLATIVE I,IAi$O Y GENERAL ° FUNA. Here follows body f resolut*9- n,omit file in the Office of,the.City Clerk,) u , ; x,y"` ' 1 1 t 3 J9< l'T` IS�be t f - - rPi k f{ycv fifi ho} }i&.. y r t,zy j Pit Upon being seconded by Comissioner Kennedy, the resolution *66 Psssad And"id6vt6d by the telloving votet '. �TSSt Ce�omisslnii�t�� L. �iumtae�t; fir. Coawtissioner Rosario Kennedy CoirAisslo!►ir Miller Dawkins Vice Mayor Victor De Yurre Mayor Xavier L. Suarez r NOES: None. ABSRNTt None. YYYIY_yri�_�_i11�1�Y��.Y_iM�i�_�Y_�YrM___��____�_�W�Y,�______��W_atl►iM.�,�rW , ,, _ 40. ALLOCATE $10S*000 TO- TROPICAL CLEAR BLUE LAUNDRY SYSTEMS, INC. acquire and manage a Short Stop of Florida, Inc.; fast food franchise at ` 5400 N.W. ith Avenue. Mayor`-Suarezt Item 54, Tropical Clear Blue Laundry. Mrs. Kennedy: They got the commitment from the Barnett Bank. !Mayor Suarez: They have the Barnett Bank commitment. Do we need to do anything on this Manager recommends? Mr. Odio: Disapprove. Mr. Plummer: Well, question, what is it based on? Is it one to one or two to bile?" Mr. Odio: One to one. f. Mr. Plummer: One to one. Let 'me•ask you something.' Your past business experience;' have you had defaults before? —t, Mr. Robert' , Sanders': If' I had any fault? Mr. Plummer: Defaults. , Mr. Sanders i Oh - no. Mr. Plummer: Have you had any bankruptcies? + Mr. Sanders: No. t: Mr. Plummer: Not just in' your - the Blue Chip or the Clear Blue - but you, s personally or anyone associated with Clear Blue?Zr f Mr.' Sandersr No. Mr. Plummer: `Thank you. Mayor Suarez: OK, do we have a motion on'the item?' ti4 !Mrs. Kennedy: I move it. Mr. Plummer: Wait, wait a minute. Did you want to speak to what I ;said? 'Uid Mr. `Sanders: Nw-` I wat"juat going to ;give you my name' and ;address hab,' n a 'K h all Robert Sanders, I live at 5840 N W .200th Street.. Mayor War Is this a mini UDAG (Urban Develagment Actiah C�rsgt�� Fak?d} 9r Asa wreto'ail it a mini UDAG? INAUDIBLE CONMENTS NOT ENTERED INTO T PUBLIC.REOORD. Mayor Suarez: I'm sorry? R• -s '' n ; 7 a ; ;.Y� - �r-i love �.ya,k'fr.�:"-', w } 8dopted mini mot` � r� n '� r� d ` +•',:'� �s ��' - 9 ✓ 1� tt Mayor Sdar6al Mr. Castanedat Mr. Plummets 1 Mr. Castaneda t has been ,taken — Mr. Plummer: 1 Cou meant because Ve Changed the match formuls7 A number of things were Changed. hat are you getting in the way of collateralt We're getting very little collateral. Most of the collateral_ by Barnett Banki iyt all, what-aaaurancan do you have that the City will be -repaid? ,a Airs.Odib: $jy that we were told to do it... mt. Castaneda! Yoe, Commissioners# you told us to do this. Mr. Plutw er: wait • minute, wait a minute, Wait a minute... P Mr. De ;Yurre: tiithout collateral. Mr. landerse Just a moment. Mr. Plumaer.: What is the interest on this loan and how long is the loan? Mrs. Kennedy: Three percent over a 15 year period. 4, Mr. De Turret When do the.payments start? Mr. Sandera: May I add something please? Mr. Plummer: Please. Mr. Sanders: OK. Number one, the building itself and the contents is worth $170,000. In addition to that, we:put.up a house.that•is worth $56,000.. Mr. Plummer: But you gave that to Barnett Bank as security, not us. Mr. Sanders: Yes, . but Barnett Bank. could. not use all the money because, we have a $715,000 guarantee from Short Stop, we have a building worth $170,000... Mr. De Turret What's. the, equity.... Mr. Sanders: ..: and we, also. have a:. house worth ,$56, 000 Now, we: only; owe B.aruett.a hundred and. five, that will:more:tham pay.backthe hundred andfive;. and you'll still have some collateral covering part.of the City's loan. Maybe �. all of ;it• Mr. Plummer: Frank. Mr. _Castaneda .Yes, Commissioner. Mr. Plummer: •You heard what the man says. Do you agree or disagree? Y7 Mr. Castaneda: The hamburger p%eople.- what!s their:: name;- ShortryStop, has a ,' commitment to buy the building for about seventy-five... 'for,'S75,000 xn my opinion, the bank, instead., of, going through ,the -hassle, will exercise >thAt option and we'll get $7531000 from Short Stop and that the -bank will go for the: ether S4A_AOd-:from the second mortaa¢e in the. house and therebv`comvletelY•:"::. Y .M�a4 f T t. i �ti✓�a+tl•aMc`x'*3rt?n Jr1��I�I�`�*''gC�'?'�.s.. gut$ 6 i• � r r ` Mr: Herb Baileys Commissioner, I think we have discussed this particular situation about four times. Mr. Plummer That's correct, sir. Mr. Bailey: l think three of them have been before this Commission and we , have already concluded that this particular loan falls in with some other objectives that the City has in terms of getting black businesses atarted and foremost, with some franchising support. Mr. Plummer: But, let me tell you where you're right and you're wrong. Mr. Bailey: No, well, I'm just trying to say what you told us to do the last time and we, at the last time, came to the meeting and discussed all -of. the details and we were instructed to go back on the provision that if we got a commitment from the bank, that we would then give our loan in support of that commitment and we were also requested that if the bank required for us to take a subordinate position, that we would do that. We went back to the bank, they .got the position, we understood all the details in terms of what was in.this deal and what was not in this deal, but we were instructed to firat of. all, get the bank money and then we would take the subordinate position, ,that's what we've done. I think your points are taken and I think I know where you're leading. Politically, we're going to have to decide whether or not we're in the banking business or not because the question you're asking a strict... Mr. Plummer: No, we're not even in the banking business at 3 percent loans. i Mr. Bailey: Well, we give 1 percent loans and we gave the Freedom Tower 4.5 million dollars at.l,percent. So we do give loans out... Mr. Plummer: _ Of which, and that's the point I'm coming to, we now know what? — - Sixty ..percent are in default? And one of them is a franchise. Mr. Baileys No, no,,.no, not the Freedom Tower.We're talking about, now the amount of interest..we charge on certain loans. Mr. Plummer: I'm talkin about the five point four.million dollars., g p of which - what was the:model.city, how many of those are in default? 1. Mr. Baileys. But, this is... Mr. Castaneda: That'.s.$570,000, the Model City Pilot Loan Program Mr. Plummer: And how many of those are in default? Mr. Bailey: Well... �.- Mr. Plummer: That's easy to answer, you'Must know the numbers. Mr. Castaneda: We brought three to the Commission and _there are about six others that are... Mr., Plummer: About 60 percent is the number I heard are in default of:which' one .of them is a franchise is;in default. - Mr. 'Bailey: Commissioner, you have to understand small business lesdiag..: y That's not unusual 'across the country. You know, we understand all Of that: {r andwe.are, only carrying out what you've.;3nstructed us to do and I think ,the decision here is whether or not the City's going to get into the lendinga x business. The . question _you're : asking. us fox : them are the same, ones that tire.` ,; have to answer to _ the bank. And I thought we: were in it for the ,purpose of causing.things to happen. We've gone. through this over and over and . over.: Mr.. Plummer,: But no 60 percent default..is not what are#e caua ag,to hepp hope.:. " ,..- .. : �:' ,. •.• � 6 ';t `its* �rT4 Or. Weil, .that'$a national :average almost of small the nature of the game" but only thing I'm just saying, we on]y b�raughl� what -you told us to bring: b�aak and we!.ye done through this distuss�,oa thrsa71 ,o"'r,:N lour -times. You know', we have some problems with making Roans, pa�ridd,` btt')►o4r." nstr Gtad:'us tq-,do that under, certain, coodit ore, 'r ut 1 i 1 [ '•- �� 1��lkfj�-s `t t SM. - .�,-�. 1 l 14ra. ,:Kennedy: Herb, refresh our 'memories, was deferral of principle.;and ;. Interest during the first year deferral of interest during the second year and e_loan to be smortt zed.. Mr. Baileys On each one of these cases, Commissioner... Mrs. Kennedy: over 15 years in a balloon at 3 percent? Go over.... Mr. Bailey: on each one of these cases, we have to structure it in accordance with what the bank is requesting us to do in terms of giving their commitment and they fluctuate. They aren't all the same, I don't know exactly the s details on this one, but whatever the bank commitment dictates that the City and other lenders do. If we want to get the bank participation, we have to do that. We. do have... Mrs. Kennedy: Frank, is that correct or, if not, can you... Mr. Bailey: It's a deferral of principle and interest during years one, interest only deferral during year two, loan will be at 3 percent amortized over a,fifteen year.period with deferral amounts to balloon at the end of the said note. ;.It's-.a.15 year balloon. Mrs. Kennedy: OK. Yes,.OK. Mr. Bailey: There are deferrals, this is sort of standard. Mr. Plummer: Where's the money coming from? Mrs.. Kennedy: Community Development block grants. Mr. Bailey: We have a fund that you have approved that permits us to do that as CD money.. Mr., Castaneda: ;,. We .had, to create , a long time ago, a mini UDAG program ;which; —� was. supposed to function on a two one leverage ratio. We came; here',-.', they, argued:that.they thought -it was two to one the other way and so forth. The;. Commission said, do it one, to one, but the City must have first position. We came back,.and we said, there's no:•deal. You know, you can't do it. He said' ` fine, 'take' the latter position, don't worry- that muchabout the equity;_; position and that's,why we're here. - 6 ' Mr. Plummer: Thankyou..., Mr. Sanders: In addition, I think you're worried about the monies that are,' going ;to..-.that.is not..collateralized. However, I think you have to also.look, `'. , at the purpose and what good will be accomplished through this business. This:;: �. business will create 24,,. 25 'jobs: immediately. Now, that has to be worth;' something and we aren't asking for a grant, we're asking for a loan which We intend: to pay back and you can throw out statistics all day. about 60 percent`_ failure and as it was said before, that's true everywhere you go for any:smalI. business.: The only thing. that we; can _say is that we're going to work' our butts off to make it work and it's going to work and you will get your money. back.:; We; have met all .the ' requirements, we;',ve been working. on, ;this , foz ; a year. This.is about our fourth or fifth time corning down here. ` Mr. Plummer:. Thank: -you. Mayor.;;Suarez: .Ali ,right, ,we got. to move on .this, we!.re... Mr. Plummers Do you reside in the City, of Miami? Mr. Sanders : Yes. ..` e 4 r „ '� :, _:. ' - j r• t',:. ° .dir ,- 1. � a a:t ��i��`�` Mayor Suarez: Wa'ro:pretty far along with -this matter and sooner or late, were° s s have tQ make 4C. determinatton. Mr :Kennody s I'm oj np =tQ.move it.. it - w �y }-MIN , p a 7 TNAUDI$L$ COMMENTS NOT ENTERED INTO THE PUBLIC,RE, Mr, Piummerx Hum? .Does he live in the City of`Mi iR7 x j a r dh - ,jyi Mr. $anderst Oh, in the City, i live in the County. I live on 200th Street. Mrs Plummert What'a your address? Mr. De Yurre: by, Joe Robbie Stadium: Mr. Sanderst S840.,200th Street. That's out rear the - you know Where,' American High School..; Mr. Pluftmert You're right near the Broward line. Mr. Sanders:. Yes. Mr. Plummer: She's in Broward. Mr. Sanderst Yes. Mayor, Suarez: Let me, .take this opportunity of asking about residency to let everyone know that at least one court has found that a residency requirement` -. for. -.all employees of the City .of;,New _York is constitutional and can be 411 for imposed, if ,.for example,; this; Commission saw fit to require all employees of, the City of to live in the City. Mr. Sanders: . Well., one of the partners... Mayor Suarez: No, that's not directed at you, that just reminded me of it. Mr. Sanders: .`.. lives in the City, in Little Haiti. Mayor:Suarez: That helps. Do :we have:a motion -on this -item?. f } Ms. Hirai: Need a second, Mr. Mayor. MayorSuarez I;'ll second. Mr -Plummer: Who made the motion? Mrs. Kennedy: I^did.: Mr. Dawkins: Under discussion, you said that the hamburger people: will^take `,f V5,000,..'on.%.the ;`building.!* Who owns the land the, building-vPilt.on? Mr. Sanders: We're leasing the land. Mr. Dawkins: You are .leasing the land? •. Mr. sanders; Yes: _ Mr. Dawkins: OK, thank you, no further questions. Mr. Do.,Yurre: Hold it, if they are leasing the land, how can ,that be` collateralized ? Mr. Plummer; It: can't. 4 Mr.. Cautioned a: -,The land is, not collateral to the loan. f { Mac. 'SaeQers T,he, building 'is..a�.profab..;building, the way it is built, it cariz' y `� up. etaall.buildtng. picked- and taken to another location. It.'s a INAUDIBLE BACKGROUND COMMENTS . NOT ENTERED INTO THE PUBLIC ; RECORD?► ' lir; Sanders: Yes, it's just like Ralley's if any of Ygau have Been Hr. Dp Yurre: , If a4.urther, discussion, call the rpll, please.:,T�*; k + ,z 3 A�. yY(IYs� 4fr Yh7ycs�� _ f Y ft 1 G j i Y� {3,nd4)I .3. ��h� '♦ his � �} . A RESOLUTION ALLOCATING AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $105,000 TO TROPICAL CLEAR BLUE LAUNDRY SYSTEMS, INC. FOR THE PURPOSE OF ITS ACQUIRING AND MANAGING A SHORT STOP OF FLORIDA, INC. FAST FOOD FRANCHISE AT 5400 N.W. ,. 7TH AVENUE, WITH FUNDS BRING ALLOCATED FROM THE FOURTEENTH (14TH) YEAR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT FUNDS FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT/PHYSICAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS POOL FUND; AUTHORIZING EXECUTION - OF AN AGREEMENT WITH SAID FIRM IN A FORM ACCEPTABLE TO - THE CITY ATTORNEY, WITH TERMS OF SAID LOAN AS STATED =f HEREIN. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Mayor Suarez, the resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote: i AYES: Commissioner Rosario Kennedy Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins ='r Mayor Xavier L. Suarez NOES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. - Vice Mayor Victor De Yurre ABSENT: None. COMMENT MADE DURING ROLL CALL: Mrs. Kennedy: I'm going to vote yes, because the idea is to promote and, encourage black businesses to own their own businesses, I'm going to vote yes. Mr. Plummer: I've got to vote no. The City doesn't belong -in the banking - business and without collateral we cannot be assured that this would'"be a revolving situation. I just... it doesn't make sense to me, it really` doesn't. , r. µ COMMENTS MADE AFTER ROLL CALL `_' �;'- Mr. Plummer: Excuse me, I didn't hear Commissioner Dawkins' vote. Mr. Dawkins: I voted yes.' Mr. Plummer: OK, it is three to two, you're granted. - r° - ,= a t �4 �.— --------------------------------------------------- ----- -- ---�• — , 41. RATIFY CITY MANAGER'S FINDING OF EMERGENCY REGARDING ACQUISITION OF 3 REMOTE DATA COMMUNICATION PRINTER FROM COMPUTER SUPPORT AND SUPPLIES INC. -- --- -------------------------------------- r�: -------- Mayor Suarez: Item 55, acquisition of a remote data communication printer to. ti be' an emergency...;=n= Mr. Dawkins: Move it. Mayor Suarez: OK, moved do we have a second? ,t �x Mrs. Kennedy: Second. jt: k Mayor SuarezSecond. Any discussion? Call the roll. = l T i `xl iXyidt SR 5 = `.j�xtr �f3*fie • �3• i She following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Dawkins, who movedilts adoptions la RESOLUTION NO. 89-356 A RESOLUTION 'RATIFYING, APPROVING AND CONFIRMING THE ACTIONS OF THE CITY MANAGER IN FINDING THE NEED FOR ACQUISITION OF A REMOTE DATA COMMUNICATION PRINTER TO _ BE AN 9MER09NCY AND IN HIS AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE OF AN EMERGENCY PURCHASE ORDER FOR SUCH EQUIPMENT TO COMPUTER SUPPORT & SUPPLIES, INC. FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF COMPUTERS AT A TOTAL PROPOSED COST OF $7,633.00, -; WITH FUNDS THEREFOR ALLOCATED FROM THE 1988-89 OPERATING BUDGET ACCOUNT CODE NO. 460201-840. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Commissioner Kennedy, the resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote: j AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Commissioner Rosario Kennedy j Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins -� Vice Mayor Victor De Yurre Mayor Xavier L. Suarez NOES: None. ABSENT: None. 42. DISCUSS AND TABLE PROPOSED AGREEMENT WITH SOUTHEAST BANK - for provision of lockbox services. Mayor Suarez: Item 56, that was specially set, we already delayed them quite3 a long time. We.don't very seldom do items specially set, but we did,do that 'one. .Item 56. Mr. Carlos Garcia: We have a piece of equipment called an OCR, an optical '. card reader,_that needs replacement. Its cost will be approximately $60,000 t plus.maintenance. We look into the various possibilities that we had, :and one of those was to let the bank that we are using at this time, Southeast Bank, do the processing of the payments that the City is receiving at'this:time. We look at the economics and. it `is morg. economical for the City to let the , bank have the lock box there and process these deposits than the City to do it' ®' itself, so we're recommending that we expand the... Mayor'Suarez: Table the item until we have a couple more Commissioners. I'm `. going to have to abstain on that because it is Southeast Bank. (THEREUPON THE ITEM WAS TABLED) f:. > 1 f{9 of s u o'• - ;k *' rtr' tax 0'} ---- IMFi� irk _ M.IY 1iM�Y�i�iiYfl�i�Y UYf�iifl.�i.IDYC %_' 1► A o t�'r t11 IRifRm"d TTSAMS fOR gotlHCOMM, CITY OF MIAMI MUOTIATID_ SDft ISS0ANCSS - Manager to negotiate contract. Mayor Suarez: item 57. Underwriting teams for the forthcoming City of Miami's negotiated bond issuance. Mr. Carlos Garcia: Yes. The City Commission approved in January an RFP and appointed the selection committee to select a number of underwriting firms to. be rotated for any future bond sales of the City. This selection committee has made a recommendation which is to appoint three groups A, B, and C. Group A'a headed by Chase Securities, Group B's headed by Paine Webber, Group C's by Merrill Lynch. Do you have any questions related to this item? Mr. De Yurre: What are these bonds going to be used for now? Mr. Garcia: It's. any future.negotiated bond sales the City has. One of those bond. sales is the capital improvement bond that we were talking a few minutes ago. which... — Mr. De Yurre: OK,, you're just setting the teams in order? Mr. Garcia: We're just setting up the teams that.the teams will be available' when the City's.ready to go out and sell those bonds and one of the bdnds'that we're planning. to sell is the, capital improvement bonds that the' City: Commission approved tentatively in January of this year. Mr. De Yurre OK, what does this have to do with the item that we're talking about? sP Mr. Garcia: OK, those capital improvement bonds' are to be "used forwo' particular projects. One is Hadley, pool and the other will be :the _youth — center. Mr..De.Yurre: OK, now,. didn't we...now we go beck to that item: Mr. Garcia: Right. Mr. De. Yurre: Didn't we, when the issue came up about. the Sunshine:Stater. z pool; Mr. Garcia: Right, when the City Commission...`yes,.,air. Mr. De Yurre: That we talked you could even bond out up to about 18 million dollars and said, well we can't go that far. Mr. Garcia: No, the Sunshine State monies that we had at the time were 'the,,6' million dollars earmarked for Gusman Hall that the City Commission — Mr. De Yurre: But we were adding more to it. ij Mr. Garcia: Well, the Sunshine didn't have any monies left. Mr..'Plummer: But they didn't have any more money: It was out. The cupboard; was bare. t1 Mr. Garcia: So, we: had to go, ahead mind sell bonds' ouraelves. We looked�at s another City, the City of Gold Breeze and we looked -at that pos$ib$l'ity was not vrry attractive at all..N�' Mr. De Yurre: OK. I Mr. Garcia:; Sowe decided to go ahead and sell the bons ourselves ,sad bDa the piro�eas that, we have, followed since January. �t�r. Ds Yurre: OJC, when wi i th be sol.¢?t yW{ S ,,dothave vo at ith time, �bk x �x k�►b� riot un $V;,uns or July of this year'. , d •w"f/��ikt _ � — -- F rt`�„pt{S`}+r*r'Y�4�,: ' �{ y t � 1 a jA t A {:; ier Da Yurrres you ale, because I got people in Tallahassee lobbying to t ge matthiitg fund* for the youth cgtnter and we already told them Ms got $1 ntilli�sh dollars and snow l can't say that. ioMr. Garciat It depsnds on what the City Commission tells me to go ahead and iaeli the bonds. Glace the underwriters are selected, it may be a matter of two or three months before we car, sell the bonds. We have to prepare some legislation that has to be approved by the City Commission and then... Mr. De Yurret hut, you sse, you guys don't come back to us and tell us these F things. If we don't ask it... Mr. Garcia: I think there are some other issues within the administration that need to be resolved. For instance, how were going to finance other equipment that we need. This is a vehicle that we can use to finance... Mr. De Yurres No, but, Carlos, Carlos... _ Mr. Dawkins: But you see - pardon me - equipment is not the issue, OK? The _ issue'is, money for an Olympic sized "pool at Hadley Park and the money for the youth center that Commissioner De Yurre requested. See, and I'm going to tell Commissioner De Yurre, he came here since me... Mr. Garcia: Commissioner, we have moved... Mr. Dawkins: If we do not pass legislation today, Mr.' De Yurre, identifying this money'and pass a resolution` that this money can only be,used'for what you and I are saying, the entities that we are talking `about` coining on line' will never see it: Mr. Garcia: Commissioner, we have moved, up`to`this point, full steam. If you want us to keep going at this pace, we'll come to the next City Commission meeting, the regular>'city Comm'i ission, and we bring 'the back'"°up` again: - Mr. De Yurre: Yes, but the point that I'm trying to make is that unless: Mr. Dawkins: OK, well no, no, no, wait a minute, let's do this. Let's hold_ 4` everything till you get back with everything in place. ' Mr." Garcia: Commissioner... U Mr. Dawkins: All right, then, do everything now then. t Mr. Garcia: there must be a sequence of steps ~that need to be followed.. One is, selection of underwriters have to be done first as well as the other:_ item that:.. ® Mr. Dawkins: OK, I'll tell you what, I've got a motion after this. Go'ahead, 'I got a motion after this, go ahead. Mr. Garcia: ... as well as item 49 that we deferred previously which is putting in, place the'monies "that -we need to use to start printing documents, and to start doing different procedures. Mr. Dawkins: ' -This is my problem. See, you always come up. half cocked and they j { things that I ask" you for get left off and then you tell me 'this "As' emergency,: I got ` to run with it tfhy Mr.. Garcia: There is no `ewer enc Cosmspisaioner. This;" is, taking . at tha I'rs$#� B Y► y1a4 time, at the tight`:,'step. Once'we get these two items Mr. Daakitis: A11 right"' well;° .then= I. just: said, if : I 'defer,' it,' you B , , �. create a problem ' Mr. Garcia':x94a 34 i Mr.'Dawkins: Wellj'that 's an emergency. me,. • Garcia: ` 8ecauea there is toilly''rtp xeasom... Mrs. '_Kent�edys `Expl4in 46 `I'V4111 'at,fect you if we , 0,10y this itpI? i+ry 3 rl.tq.: a rn�ti nd ing to Mr, Dawkins: No, no, nts, I'ta notheonext �oonth s� motion what we want so�we�to then i'a going to come up with going to go ahead. Mr. Garcia: Because when we should have - we should have the underwriters oa board... �►e` should have the underwriters on board before we do the next legislative step to approve a resolution... the the Mr. plummers You can talk till you're bluer n talk docwe need? an says he's going to defer it. Now, you know, how much mo I say I'm not going to defer it. Mr. Dawkins No, Mrs. Kennedgs No, he says he's not. Mr. Plummer: Oh, you're not going to defer it. Mr. Dawkins: No, I'm not going to defer it. Mr. Plummer: Oh, what are you going to do? r. Dawkins: You see, but all I'm saying, J.L., is that just like he came M Mr. at piece of paper this morning with things outlined of what he's 'going out? On that same piece to do - remember the piece of paper he passed paper, I should` have had things earmarked that said, Range Park I mean, Hadley Park, Olympic swimming pool. It also should have said, Youth Center and anybody spell it? -now, I passed this, I mean, what he had this morning, era'sthe moneq°for Range then``when I come up and say, well,.wh- for Hadley Park pool, they said, oh, we forgot that or something. OK? Mr. Garcia: No, sir, we have not forgotten. We were plan... Mr.:Dawkins: All right, I move this,.I move this. Has any moved this? Mr. Plummer: What? item 57? Mr. Dawkins: :Yes. Mr. Plummer: App Who are the recommended team? o inting the underwriters team. { Mr 'Garcia: For team... Mr. Dawkins: They want -to rotate them. Group A will get. the first one, group _ B get the second... - Mr. Plummer: You're talking about $7 million dollars, right? And you're re you going to use on $7,million dollars going to ro... how many teams a ? , r et the first one and then the next one go to the Mr. Dawkins: No, no, they g nextone. - Mr. Plummer: What's the next:'one? -Hey, you know, let me tell you. something, 1 ; ys something if you'll give me the right numbers I'm,_trying to tell you gu; Where does this bonding stop? What about the bonding.for the federal court -e house, where's that? Mr. Garcia: That's-ths-Aext item on the agenda. Mr. Plummer: Ah.' Another bonding. Wet"are-:almost. at a billion dollars of �. bonding:' Now,�when.in the hell is it .going to stop? „t,y a Mr. Dawkins: Afiersl get'to'Range Park.. t ' Mr.:Plwnmsrs You know, Carlos, I wish you would come tp tmq off�Fe';:for ate}Yzs'r° and have theca little old ladias: talk to you about that you're. 'driYg t};�i out of '..thin ` town-. . 'Now, Mhare. is it going to'$omew#sere along tlnf� 3 g y { somQbod has. got to draw =the line and we're Aat don i, 4 X� y„ Y 'r o n LC► draw Ljte line scut 1�_ Nr, Aawkins s We +� 6 # g ?1 .:, } : of ar ht #sera` I �M Z you,,r • . • 1` � 3 1166 l !!1K A� j t ei Mt. Dawkinsli draw the line after Ridley pork's pool. Nit. Plutwor: Hey, you got $400 million dollars here without the peniyion. Vith .the pension, you've got. almost $800 million dollars. A. Mr, De Yurre: Look, forget the pension... Mr: Plummer: You can't forget it, it's due and owing. Mr. De Yurre: Well, forget the bonding though. Mr. Plummer: It's due and owing, it's got to be paid. Mr. De Yurre: If you want to get reelected, you forget the bonding. If you're 25 percent tax increase, man, get blown out of the water. s Mr. Plummer: What? Well, he'd better understand that it's got. to be paid. That was a consent decree that was entered into by this City. You're talking about sixty-five thousand of this other notes. Mr. De Yurre: You get the unionss... Mr. Plummer: We are a billion dollars in debtt Mr. De Yurre: Get the unions together and tell them that's their job on the line and work out a payment plan, go back to the court. Mr. Plummer: Oh, :that's nice, you tell them that and try. Mr. De'Yurre: Hey... Mr.. Plummer: You do that, I'll elect you as the labor negotiator. Mr. Do Yurre: Hey. Mr., Plummer: You. know; < hey, all I... you know, I just can't vote for anymore bonds unless it;is for emergency services. I'm sorry, his bond thing is just getting out of.hand. It's... Mr. Dawkins: Good,, that :s _ all right,,. ain't_ no . problem. But , it'll be out of t hand after Range Park and Hadley Park pool. r Mr. De `Yurre: And the Youth Center. f _ Mr. Dawkins: Then we'll hold it in line till then they're in hand, then we can put.it out our hands. �. Mr.. Plummer:. Mr. Garcia. Mr. Garcia: Yes, air? Mr. Plummer: What does approximately $1 billion dollars of bonds cost: the taxpayers annually? Mr. Garcia: We don't have a billion dollars in bonds but it.:. f i 2 Mr. Plummers 'You'Goddamn near it. � r Mr.,,Garcias: It would be `about.10 :percent. so '•it would be,.about a hundred ' jY million,.dollars. - r } ' µ r Mrr Plummer: A year! Yr �i Mr. Garcia.:, ; Yes;' Mr!. Plummerr:. A. year!., Nr. iGa.roiet;, , it tis. not m osition to advocate ;Eor bonds,°; Comm yp,,.Pu the project has been approved by the City Commisaioa as we need to{inti air %a�s ds, 9diig., ,Ft♦ o . s YrN"' { { i Flumm rt Hey,, there ain't no money on the tree. l 'wkins: t move S1 again. Nr. De Yuri -at Do you have a second? Mr. DawkI i lbove 57. Mrs. Kennedy, Second. Mr. De 1ture: OK. No further discussion? Call the roll. the' foiioaing resolution was introduced by Commissioner Dawkins, who moved its adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 89-357 A RESOLUTION SELECTING AND APPOINTING UNDERWRITNG TEAMS FOR THE FORTH COMING CITY OF MIAMI'S NEGOTIATED BOND ISSUANCES, EXCEPT FOR THE BOND SALE RELATED TO THE FEDERAL'LAW ENFORCEMENT PROJECT, AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO NEGOTIATE CONTRACTS FOR SAID UNDERWRITING SERVICES. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by.Commissioner Kennedy, the resolution was passed' gnd adopted'by the following vote: — 'AYES:' Commissioner'Rosario''Kennedy - Comnissioner_Miller Dawkins Vice Mayor Victor De Yurre NOES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. ABSTAINS: Mayor Xavier L. Suarez ABSENT: None. 'r Mr. Dawkins: OK,.now this is giving your the right.,.. � Mr: Just to appoint . .Plummer: }•_' - Mr. Dawkins: to use, appoint these individuals as bond salesmen, right? Mr. Garcia: Yes, sir. - Mr.Dawkins: OK, now, before you give them the bonds to sell, you have tp: come back to this Commission? Mr. Garcia: Certainly, certainly. Mr. Plummer: Well, who is the appointed firm? Mr. Garcia:., The first firm will be Chase Security, the first deal will go Chase' Security, `the `second would' go to "Paine, �lebber, the third ivoul�' go to'- ter" �. Merrii'l Lynch': "In the -'order..,. 49 2 ' Mr. PiUmmer: OK, so:in' other words, the first firm knows that,they �� ?,million dollars, is that correct? ,YDM I i t r b �.�t iY lsr: Garcia: They will know that, yes, sir f � ( 102 4, O Mr. 7 u,mners Na' doubt7 OK r,. >2 pia x°1j k}jy�} =j iir.''Garciai They' IS know'it.!,�f - Mr► Pluimner: Oh, 4 r , r {` I�r.raxwciat ifal�.r they'll by notified { N 1 , tits �'4" fl »- y fir f�iw�Einef Aii fight, w1�tn' you`'t'o1fia bath to tifih me the $ imiltlot► 7 = bring back another $i a,ill on dollars tor. dollars` .hour tlbt:ch was the.... the i'adI tty that" to litnt's for tha youth and the Pool' that want, that wa avant,; in Hadley Park. Hrs. Kennbdl►: but, isn't it included in here? mrs me zurre: our. w..� .o ...o------• ---- - - Mr. bdio No$ no, no, wait, wait, whoa, whoa. That is the seven. Mr. Garciat That's the seven. Mrs. Kennedy: Yes, that is the seven. — Mr. Plummer,: It's in the seven. — Mr. De Yurre: OK, that's the seven they're getting us. Mr. Dawkins: It's not in the seven. _? Mr. kummer''i Yes, it is: — —, Mrs. Kennedy:' Yes. _ Mr. Odio:,..We have a sic... Mr.'Plummer: It's not in the first six, it's in'the second seven. (} Mr. Odic: We are borrowing - let me see if I... excuse me, Commissioner, we: —; are borrowing thir... + Mr. Dawkins: Yes, please do. I'm a slow learner, but I'm not retarded. Mr. Odic: We are borrowing $13 million dollars. ' Mr. Dawkins:. Thirteen -sae, this morning you told me it `was seven. Mr; Plummer: It. is. 1 Mr. Odic: No, ,L,didn'.t say, anything.about`,seven, We're borrowing... t f Mr. Dawkins He'did,'.he did, Mr. Manager. Mr. Odio: I don't. know who said...% in plain Mr. Plummer:; We-got"so damn many bonds,`you don't even 'know -what the hell we. got. Mr. Odio: .We` are borrowing $13 million dollars. �.' Mr.,Plummer: Disney World South. i Mr. Dawkins: All right, OK, Mr. Manager. - Mr. Odic: Ve' have to sell $7 million because. there .was not onough —' the Sunshine State pool. ` That' makes, it a total of 13 million.: k '' Mr. 'Dawkins: We'got six and... f, iQ Mr. bdio: 'P So that. covers all the projects that you Commissioners: waited i_ d0 �`i y P H. !!r'. AawkiAa: ` OK, .'well; - all 'right, nQw bring that: ail�T�s resolution`: at the next meeting ao I can get it iegialative and lgnsiw i f41 be changed: Thank you,z¢ir. Mr. OdiQi :' Yes, air, you need tQ, do the we]1, 'it i�l 3n 1p�i+s`+�of►4� passed J i'.. {{ 4 i 4 Y r. i p.: eit' v�ry�`Yf�ip P Hr, D¢ Yu res Ix's aired y parmerked for :iChe goof and Pr th0t�9Vrr K p,��t� .. __— r T. '�➢^rX; .!fir.; ttt�tf;{Jtlel�ti r ?Fs,. R Mrs Odiat It's already this WAS passed by the CoMranisaion. Mr, Piumm6r: ,too tail Monty Trainer to take us to the poor house, f i Mr. Odio: And was prioritized by you and that's what we're doing. Vs'reusti doing what you tell us to do. Mr. De Yurre: OK. Mr. Plummer: Oh, boy. s Mr. Odio: Now, what you need to do is 49 so we can proceed. ---- ------- ---........ 44. (Continued Discussion): FIRST READING ORDINANCE: Amend' Ordinance 10521 - by establishing new project: "Preliminary Special Obligation Bond Expense FY189" (No. 311013) (See label 35). { Mayor Suarez: Item 49 was implementing special obligation bondexpense, fiscal year '89. Mr. City Attorney, I presume if I had a conflict on 57, that we would not preclude my voting on 49 which is just the... '€ Mr. Fernandez: No, not at all, correct. Mayor. Suarez: OK, I entertain a motion on item 49. Mr. De Yurre: Move it. — ; Mayor Suarez: Moved. Mr. Dawkins Second. Mayor Suarez:. Second. Any discussion;-call`the roll'. AW ORDINANCE' ENTITLED { AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTION 1 OF, ":ORDINANCE N0. ' 105211 �AS. AMENDED; ADOPTED NOVEMBER '' 17; ' 4988;'''- THE'`:_ —!' CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS .:APPROPRIATIONS*,ORDINANCE,:' BY < j ESTABLISHING A NEW PROJECT, ENTITLED "PRELIMINARY: SPECIAL ' OBLIGATION BOND'- EXPENSE `FY '' ' 89 "•, PROJECT NO. 3 311013-IN THE AMOUNT OF $140,000; APPROPRIATING FUNDS - IN SAID AMOUNT FOR SAID PROJECT FROM BOND PROCEEDS; CONTAINING A- REPEALER PROVISION AND A. SEVERABILITY CLAUSE. , F O Was: introduced by Commissioner De Yurre and seconded by Commissioner Dawkins and was passed on its first reading by title by the following vote:14. !j AYES: Commissioner.:J. L. Plummer, Jr:' Commissioner Rosario Kennedy Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins Vice ;Mayor Victor De-Yurre i� Mayor Xavier L. Suarez j� 7I� Fes% NOES None. ABSENT: None. a`�r The' City Attorne read the ordinance into the ublicbccrd'imd t ;. y` z� announced .1hat:'copLos were ;available to the membors of the C ty` bamtiaa o a wn to the public. , r k i ram, At 7. 1 r 4p r - , 1 i W r.�i S F k •d 4S, SELECT AND APPOINT UNDMRWRITINO TEAM FOR FEDERAL LAW ENFORCEMENT PRO $OND SALE - Manager to negotiate contract. i lYi.riwrYliii�.iii�►Yf�f�iiY��ri�—�-iiii.iWi.iii.iir.iYs.iU..YYfir.K..ffi.r. Mayor Suaret: item SO. Mr. Carlos Garcia: Fifty-eight's also the selection of underwriters. Buts in J: that case, it's for the GSA Building, the federal Law Enforcement Building. j fMr. Plummer: And who are the underwriters? Mr. Garcia: The underwriter selected was a team composed of nine different. firms. The leading firms are Morgan Stanley, Paine Webber and Goldman. Sachs. Mr. Plummer: Why would you.... you said nine? it Mr. Garcia: Nine and six co -manager firms. s Mr. Plummer: Why would you do that? What advantage is there to doing that?,' Why not use one? Mr. Howard Gary: Well, the selection committee felt, based on information j from the firms as well as from the financial advisors that this is a tough taxable deal. It's going to require a lot of work with regard to the -federal. - government and its lease. That's the first response in terms of the three + major firms. The other... {F ?� Mr. Plummer: This is just the underwriting group, this has nothing to do with f1, the lease or the contract. This is just to sell the bonds. Mr. Gary: Well, that's not necessarily so, Commissioner..; What..happens is, is the underwriter have: to ;have<a product that' their investors will purchase. t h. If, for example there are some problems with the lease with.. ' Mr.. Plummer: Does that make any sense to you,: to.use nine? Mr. Gary: I£ there's some problems with regard tothelease which is!: guaranteeing the payment` for the bonds;`the'tinde'rwriters'are going to have } problems in terms of placing'those bonds. x Mr;.-, Plummer: That's going to be true, whether you have one underwriter.. or 1 nine. Mr. Gary: Yes,, but it's a tough... + Mr. Plummer: You got a product to sell, that you either sell with one or with' nine - I don't understand why you would go to even three. ®j Mr. Gary: Well, for a number of reasons. First of all, I think it's important to know that it's not going to cost the City any more money. But,: secondly... Mr. Plummer: Well, but try to pinpoint responsibility.., Mr. Gary: Well, that's... T Mr. Plummer: is where I got a problem. - l Mr. Gary:, Well, you have pinpointed responsibility because is every L you have a senior manager who is directly responsible. And that pz:urT»r manager, . in this particular case, is Morgan Stanley. In the othorCaee, you `n 'j have'. let me soe number 57 - Chase:a' -;Paine. Webber al,tb Merr$l, , Lynch. those three Are major firms :even though there are other firmaA t1�eg#'; 77,' underwriting syndicate. It doesn't cost the City any more money. Mrs, ,Kennedy:. And the co-ma�tagsrs will would ..t#te' co p►aaa$ee will Sett xp�'taR percent.., 4ie , q 1 A s — 2 ri7 i s Tx su �rY�r Y 48 ACCEPT ctk NDATION OF AUDITADVISORY COMMITTEE TOP UAM8 or CERTIFIED PUBLIC ACCOWT NG FIRMS (Deloitte Haskins and Sella; SharOt6fto Brunson and Compan, PAl and Verdejg, Iriondo and Gravier, CPAOI regarding services as external auditors for the City authorise manager to negotiate contract with highest ranked firm. _- rrirrrrirrrrf..rr��w•'r�wrr�ir.iw.rasii�Ywr.ibr�'a'�'ririri+w��•�•rr�— ; rrrrr.r.+rrrr..r+..r- Mr. Plummer: Now we've got get the CPA's, cleaning, pressing and alternationsl Who is the recommended firms? Mr. Garcias Item 597 Deloitte... Mr. Plummert 590 who are the recommended firms? Mr. Odios Deloitte, Haskins and Sells, Sharpton; Brunson and Company, PA; and — Verdeja,Iriondo and Gravies. Mr. Plummers Is that your recommendation? Committee's Mr. Odio: The Selections recommendation. Mr. Plummer: Is it your recommendation? Mr. Odio: Yes. Mr. Plummer: I move item 59. Mayor Suarez: So moved. y Mr. Dawkins: Second, and under discussion. t Mayor. Suarez: Seconded.. Commissioner Dawkins. Mr. Dawkins: Warhad:.. where is Ms... stand one female to`apply.,and aas locked out. Deloitte Haskins and Sells said that they would give up five .� percent of their contract.' Are they willing.. to give up five percent to this lady? — Mr. Frank Paredes: Commissioner,"mq name is Frank Paredes, :partner with j Deloitte Haskins and Sells. Yes we would commit... Mr. Dawkins: So moved with that stipulation. Mayor Suarez: With that modification, is that kosher, can we do that? Mr. Fernandez:. Yes. �{ �i Mayor Suarez: OK, so moved, do we have a second. Mr. Plummer: I moved it. Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded. Any discussion,, call he roll, { b� .1 t 44i Sr�"4 +4 t j, 3E` (111 sJl�tii �, !t$gma�y S Mayor Suarez: Give me the streets. Mr. !Kaye The ones north of there are on NZ 72nd `iertace, 73rd Street, Ath Street, ISth Street, I believe 76th Street is open and the street north of there which doesn't show, I believe is 17th Street and they are located... they are not located on the boulevard though, they are located one bloek to the east of the boulevard. Mayor Suareat That's the sauna general effect. OK, all of those that are here to support the placement of the barricades, please raise your hands. All ,of those that are here to oppose the placing of the barricades, please raise your hands. Ott, do we... Mr. Plummer: Just like all of the rest, fifty-fifty. Mr. Kay: I'd like to... INAUDIBLE BACKGROUND COMMENTS NOT ENTERED INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD. Mayor Suarez: OK, please, if you are going to address the Commission, you need to use the mike. After we do the City's presentation, we'll recognize people for two minutes each. Try not to get repetitive. After three or four people are repeating the same thing, it would be preferable if you state your name in the record and your address and say that you oppose or support and that you don't add much more than that, because the more repetitive you get, the more Commission tends to get infuriated with the testimony, although we are not supposedto be' offacted by, tend to vote against you, so •I'm just warning you. OK, Jim. Mr. Kay: OK, a resolution has been prepared adopting these temporary` barricades, however, I would like to have the resolution corrected to reflect that'the Departments of Police, Public Works and the Department of Dade County; Public Works are opposed to the erection of the temporary barricades. That, was not stated that way in the original resolution because it was prepared ' sometime before this meeting, of course, and we just recently got in•; recommendations from some of those departments. Briefly, I would just like to state that street by street, northeast 69th Street, at Biscayne Boulevard is a — . signalized'intersection and that would be receiving all the traffic going..int'o the area. Some adjustments would have to be made to the signalized location_.:'' there and very likely that.the left turn storage bay on 69th Street `would haver - to lengthened. Also on NE 70th Street, NE 70th Street at Biscayne Boulevard is a very"narrow street. It is in the zone 50 feet width at`Biscayne, -' Boulevard, but when you go east, it only .has a 28 foot right-of-way, and:`; ? however, at the west end, there's only-28 feet that's been dedicated, placing a barricade there would cause a problem in that people,turning:around at. that: street would have to be forced to move and adjust their 'turning' on private y property. At NE 71st Street and Biscayne Boulevard, that is a.,signalited intersection that's being proposed to be,closed. Mayor Suarers Which is that one, I'm sorry, which street? Mr." Kay: NE 71st Street at Biscayne Boulevard. :. Mayor Suarez: They're all at Biscayne Boulevard and they are all at NE so just give us the street,' it kind of makes it a little simpler. 71st Street has &.traffic light? Mr: Kay: Has a signal there, traffic signal there, and that "is a coliectos yh roadway. Dade County Public.Works Department is opposed to this gloeuras to that reaaan. 72nd .Street 'by -itself, by ;itSO f, we Vouldn't have and► 'a� objection to 'that closure, t it probably, would not present a blem Tha basically concludes our presentation; pro M'. Plumma�rc' Well; let me ask qou, for the `residents behiAd thos$ bric`a¢se� how would they : geit _,into their" homes? Su . ose=dl 7 pJ° PP Y you lived oo dint5t�rgl�,� ' spat of the boulevard. Now would you Set.into there1�51? s T -= yl.. if - a r f rfire •f ('}* Have to ga a through bpth Street :around thq`Pidominiune�e:x�,..�e�i� C14peer Condominium pad Paiea $ay"note' and Condgminipm,hla to =s x w ,3 , , t a well delineated showir g tt .e streets, but curves" umm You can t soma in from the aath, x b Mr. kiyt _ No, the neighborhood to the north is complately separates!, froS the �fiighborhood to the south. There is no interconnection, for 63taiaple you. . _ Mr. Plummets All right, if I live the street below the first barricade is 69th Street, is that correct? Mr. Kay: That's correct, that's the open street, right. Mr. Plummer: If I live on 69th Street, then I am going to have to put up with all the neighbors from 70, 71.and 72 are going to go down my street, rightt Mr. Kay: That's correct.' INAUDIBLE BACKGROUND COMMENTS NOT ENTERED INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD. Mayor Suareze; Please, please! INAUDIBLE BACKGROUND COMMENTS NOT ENTERED INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD. Mayor,Suarez: Sirl Mr.'_Plummer:, Sir, can I ask, my,question without you getting upset? You can get upset later, but let me get my question. INAUDIBLE BACKGROUND COMMENTS NOT ENTERED INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD. Mayor Suarez: Please, please! Mr. Plummer- OK, so what you are saying is, the volume of traffic to go into, any ofthe houses on 70,_71, or 72 would have to go through 69th. - Mr. Kaye ;That's`.correct. Mr.Plummer: They can't go.through 68th7 y bnidentified Speaker: No. r — Mr. Kay: No. There 3s no interconnection down therefrom the 'south. s Mr ,Plummer: OK, that s what I wanted to know ' , thank you. Now you can get. upa t;'.sir. Mayor Suarez: OK, how about if we .go, one on each. side, two....minutes,;olock' them.;please,,Madam, City Clerk, and again, try not to be;repetitive,` it really'. _ doesn't help your cause. Mr. David D. Anthony: Commissioners, �II'd like to first say that we have.:; 0 nearly 50.:people here in the community who support it, 87:percent of people that live on the street signed the petition to support -:temporary', barricades ,for a 90 day .period .to see .if . it will. function.,., .Our opgos tiott comes mainly from the condominium and the Clipper Club, Palm Bay, OK? Mi.'Hirai: Excuse me, we need your name for the record. asp . Mr. Anthony: OK My name is Dave D. Anthony, . I the president , of j tip Bayaide tll Res Associations I'm here `today' ia't. capacities, :one am''tl�e r � president and one as a resident. As president it is my duty;to,.iaform yqu that;. the ,board of . directors .for this association have vote si to support thq,: F < & 4•ao- 5 in9N Mort of 'this' community its, .its request for; temporary, street c�psi>ag tp i nag( ecplpre the impact on` crime and ,excessive ; trafp. e, a ✓. a proppss listing our ..goals and •'ob pti es:. ;9 . ; ,We bet ve t 1 - accessbilt will notoal Have a ositi a - a t°'o de s``" ' , y P v mp c n_ tarring prima ; f s� excessive traffic, but would additionally -:help identify pleat bopadariae F } tkxe proposed hatoriaF .dist,rict, Last, but of no 'legg,...im ortaa a, 7^E;ram p�reaazvation of "property values and historic character of the' �aig�oks�p►. yaid, s; a la q790c beaut# u s Nttei hbOr4Z00d� th�etG ,�auat axpiplce ; ano44Y�mt Meth0.s to' resesve its residential atatus a dh.c a act r r` n h r' er# `l1$ put, !~li d, ma or p�eti606l a is thiq nation, � tray no, 36#aPOT hoQdn an urban setic�g:, u,arard aYre ppafrpnxsd witj�' jo, r ss p PRO Q t .�'�+tW�� . 5 ... . .t t._ . ' .:.. .. ... ,. i .. .. ... � Y �yG 5 Yi� ?{ #��Zryi�eF'•C^�.:✓-S t - - - dealing, thefts, muggings and the placement of thousands of recovering drug and alcohol addicts. Now, in its capacity as a homeowner, I would like to address the opposition from the condo communities. First, they do not &Wn 69th street. This is a public thoroughfare. Many in our community already use 69th Street. There are only 14 homes on 69th Street. On the three streets involved are 12A. Half the people are elderly and retired, They are not going to be massive traffic jams. Yes, traffic will have, the lights will have to be coordinated. Second, they are very safe behind security fences, security bars, they have security guards, security gates, and security cameras. We are being inundated daily by muggings. Yesterday, Mrs. Blumberg's parents, at 2:30 in the afternoon were held up at gunpoint, This is the third holdup in two weeks. The theft is tremendous. We have drugs addicts and prostitutes up and down our streets. OK, third, their safe havens actually sit on landfill that was once pristine property for our community, Their condominiums were at one time were beach front property for our homes. And last, I take particular offense at their unwillingness to even attempt this try. All we are asking for is a 90 day period, to see if traffic, if the Impact is so horrible, if crime will be reduced. These people are unwilling, behind their security bars, to even share in the community efforts to detour crime. But the height of arrogance was the response I received from Mr. Bruce — Rosenthal, who instructed to me to withdraw our request because people in the _— Clipper know influential people in high places. Those were his exact words. When I spoke to Mrs. Atlas from the Palm Bay Club, I said, don't you realize this is a temporary closing to explore impact. She ... Mayor Suarez: Can you summarize, paraphrase, and whatever? Mr. Anthony: That's it, Mayor. — Mayor, Suarez: Oh, that was.quick. Mr. Anthony: We. are requesting a temporary, and I'd like to 'correct the Planning Department. We met with 'Major Raul Martinez from the Police Department. They have 100 percent accepted our proposal. The Fire Department has also accepted it, to explore our proposal. — Mr. Plummer: Wait a minute, wait a minute, where is the Fire Department? Mayor .Suarez: They usually don't... Mr. Plummer: They've taken a position of absolute opposition toevery one. Have.you changed your position?. 1'n; Mr. Willy Waters: I'm Willy Waters, Chief of Communications. Our. position, is - we area opposed to any kind. of . permanent barricades, but we approved this . in the concept as long as it meets all of the specifications such as (APPLAUSE) Mr. Plummer: Start over. INAUDIBLE BACKGROUND COMMENTS NOT ENTERED INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD. Mayor Suarez: Please, please, please! { Mr. Waters: We would approve this.on a temporary basis, as long as -it -meets. the specifications as far. as. ratios and those kinds of things, with the vehicles going in. s= Mr. Plummer:: OK, -well, hold on, let's get down to.. you know, and I'm sorry to pick on you, all right? Your chief stood up here at the last. _hearin in B reference, to: 28th Street and 26th!Avenue and said he would totally, oppose any ��— restrictions of his Fire Department. getting in around barricades, :NowI,'aa#t j to know -.,Where the difference is. f� Mr. Anthony: Mr. Plummer.. Mr. Plummer: Excuse me, I'm asking the Fire Department. - Mr. ,Waters: , Well, what we are saying here '.is that. +ws do.. -have accessibility, once they have a plan, they went through fire reve�it,io tier$ p- and it in, going to be approved in a concept as to for 90 days, : to sse whetl}s ; ?F�' or not .fit would work. r °{ �N "$ 174 L � 1 Sti""Sok.F .aa:". uv fir. IINi � PM3MMN �. �• Mr. Pluftert OK, listen, I don't find any fault with that, but let rme tell you what you are going to be, because I'm going to go back to the record, you're going to be Consistent, because this is inconsistent with the other rulings of the Fire Department. Now, I want to ask the Police Department to - see It there is consistency, because here is a deviation from what;,o you heard anything different? Mayor Suarez: No, unless there is some different circumstances that I... Mr. Plummer: Yes, sir. You, sir, let's go ahead. How do you.get an emergency. vehicle behind that? If you delay two minutes, what I was told by the Dire } Department, if you delay two minutes by getting a rescue, that could mean life - _ or death. Nov, this is a different truck today, so let's go on, and we',re going to be consistent. What's with the Police Department? Lt. Longueira: Commissioner, I understand from Major Martinez yesterday, late. In the day, that the citizens met with them and altered their barricade plan. Mr. Plummer: To what extent? Lt. Longueira: Let me ask you right now, OK, I don't understand it, so what I would like is them to explain to everybody how they are providing barricades that are.open and allow access, because that's what they are telling us. Mr. Plummer: OK, is the recommendation of the Police Department to allow this to happen? Lt. Longueira: Right now, based on what I know of the plan and I'm .the one representing the Department, no, we oppose the plan. Mr. Plummer: Thank you, that's all I wanted, the rest is Public Works and we know about them, but I've still got, I've got a with the Fire Department,. because this is -a definite deviation from their previous position. Mayor Suarez: One from this side. Go ahead, sir. Mr.-- Anthony: All right, Mayor, can I please explain one thing,about the barricades. They allow complete accessibility for emergency vehicles on each road.We> did... Mayor Suarez: OK, we.. are going to get into -that.. That.'a a-:tstaff. question: In fact..: does somebody explain that?. Mr. Plummer: Yes, because maybe this is the answer for the rest .of them:.- A Mr. Anthony: Yes, that's what the Fire Department said. Mayor Suarez: No wait, no, no, not until the presentation from staff. Jim, what would be the difference? In fact, what was this modification that they made that now... Mr. Plummer: Tell me what kind of barricades are they proposing? Mr. Jim Kay: At this point in time, all that. is before you -is a resolution for _temporary barricades. These are the horse type barricades, or, _the wooden' NERE type barricades with flashers. Mr: Plummer;- What . do you do for the 90 ' days, . what is" different in ,this; applicationfrom all of the -crest, which you have recommended against?_, Mr. Kay: Absolutely nothing at this point in time. Mayor Suareas What is the modification there, that >the kee refazrin < to xf�r� that would = Y ` p " yby �. t r'' i ?t 4ai �4Y Mayor -Suarez: nness? �~"a Whet ; is s,'�ope Mayor Suareas ,, allow rescue vehiGlen, or emergency through` r s t . r . t f 3 ` izr ter, Planer: that will be Mayor Suarez 'Mr. Kay: barricades. Lt. Longtiieir Sp uT � 4 4>++t rf r, Veli,it's actually the Fire Department, I guess, In the ona e to answer that. Anybody He'a there, Jim, do you know? don't' know whet they are talking about on the temporary i Commissioner... Mayor Suarez: Yes, we will get to the presenters, if we have to. We were just hoping that staff would know. Lt.''Longueira: I've got a real rough sketch, but supposedly, what they are proposing is landscaping coming in from the corners, and only allowing a 12 foot opening which I believe is got grass or some vegetation across it, which really gives the appearance from the distance of being a barricade, but' in = ,: reality,` you and I know that after a while, people are just going to drive through it, but I mean, is this... Mayor Suarez:' Or conceivably, only emergency vehicles, on conceivably, only emergency vehicles. Lt. Longueira: That's my understanding of it, at this point, because the diagram is very unclear. Mr. Plummer: Well, that's not a barricade. To me, a barricade, is the- .stick with' the `boards. Lt. Longueira: If they've got a better... Mr. Plummer:-- Excuse me, are you saying then, that this would be a curbing? Mr. Anthony." No, may I please explain? We've worked with the Fire Department.. We've met with the Fire Department. Mayor. Suarez:. Give us your name again now, you are kind of 'acting as; our 'staff"here. Mr. Anthony: ' ' Dave Anthony.. The plan ' calls for a 'two foot rise with . a degree;: angle; 12' feet wide, allowing emergency vehicles .to cone up' to :drive over: It` -will -:be paved with flagstones. In,between the flagstones will"be planted mondo grass, a foot and one-half high, so you will actually 1}ave=two to three feet"of visual 'deterrent. There will be -a sign there, emergency access only. Everystreet will have complete 'emergency' access. It is only , eliminating local traffic that is the proposal, Mr. Plummer; How would you deny a local traffic from going over the'same wa Y that an emergency vehicle would go over it? Mr. Kay: Mr. Commissioner, he is refer... Mayor Suarez: Please, please. Mr. ' Plummers I'm not reading this, as barricades. If you can roll :over its Y then it is not, in my estimation, a barricade*' Mr. Kays He is ''referring, I believe, the permanent; instailntiop, comet#i —; similar' to what is up .. at :the Bel le Meade, '- just north of three `sow; ` erhere w� ' r ; i Have a` curbing and a, "'I just" think 'it is 'just a` sodded strip o grass on'Jtosrrfi 1 of that, so 'its not .. P{ r-s l ek�ij" Mr Plummerr` Logk, what I am saying to, you is,` from�t what' I'ta etgn Vat they sire proposing `is 'not , -`a barricade. ';It .doesn't stoparxp,aAr,� wouldn't be op Deed to sue s' p h Mr. Rodriguez: Commissioner, if i may, the' issue7'tj aC you have b#�oza�'yo� /today is temporary barricades, like the one that you toad ' Gr'oVe,r,, y ;.Xn { , l ., lffr rt ..1F A - .�{' k T f 's 7:1 E-J"11.r ou ow,.;: the saw, .hors,a `that you h"eve, at}d tYat's' M#YYYs sA ' d''sos�'esad toda .: k >" Y. the .issue of a permanent: barricade# nth n is ;WAO'j- b WJ, iF proposing, a; barrier mare tfiac a,barri"cade�4 x49 S fit X _ rid if p, what you other places, basically, a strip of g sae' m going through. give up on it. We've been looking at things other s. We did something also, that's sort of a hybrid, Design District. We put those little rubber deals that would... Mr. Plummer: 1 thought they were removable? Mayor Suarez: And they were removable, too. Mr. Rodriguez: I just clarified the record because I think that you were getting to.the details and the final solution and I think part of the'iasue here,today is that they are asking for a temporary barricade for 00 days. Mayor Suarez: But we understand that the temporary barricade is to test something that,will eventually become a permanent solution, otherwise this would be... Mr. Plummer:. It's not temporary. Mr. Kay: No. Mr. Rodriguez: No, the temporary barricade that you are dealing with today is., the typical one, we'll.deal with that. Mr. Plummer: Well, nobody can get through that, not even the emergency equipment, is that correct? Mr. Kays That's correct. Mr .Plummer: Now, what sayeth the Fire Department on'that? " Mr. Vat re: Commissioner.Plummer,.when I "said that :we agreed to the: concept, the , proposers,", othis , plan : had brough f t. into the Fire:. Department and, the' -;Fire Prevention. Bureau .had studied this plan 'and 'it' not''a barricade, it's a 'r '; concept there, and so I'd dike have' Calpina explain that `whole thing to`,you right, here. „y Mr. Plummer: Weil,,what they've explained to.us.right.now, the. -first 90 days, it.'s going: to be permanent barricades. Am I right or wrong? Mayor,, Suarez: Well,, temporary, but lot of humpwith landscaping,. but,`'you know like the little.... Mr. Waters: It is not going to be a barricade in the sense... Mayor•Suarez: Like a building barricade. - Mr. Kay: It's going to be the barricade similar to what .you have in".the Grove. ..if 'you have to move them, you can stop your car and,get out and move .the barricades physically ,and put them back, but you,know, that".does and. that would hinder an emergency vehicle, ,the q;have to:do.that ti 6 B y oa hi going t�lr Plummer: You, are not oin to do that, that one on eas ov�e� F because they've now put '100 pound sandbags on top of `all of theia y� y Y MX. Waters: The _barricades, the removable barricades.`:.for the 9D4 daY,s kis�piia Y�[ �jE f� r to be ,a temporary type, but it , is not going • to, `pe thQ fndl plan. ' The �f;l� a`Rn ��„1� plan, in, going to be same ooncept` of a barricade, ;:but not those �kbm' o Mr. Plummers` On "the 45th day, the .man that dies behind.,thebarricade heaausF r'`' f t.1e rescue' cot�ldn t get there, you explain that t0 him, **fyr,. WateFs":. What we are saying, is that they aaa removah� a 'fit s d;iyM �' 7h �� • t , F "-. 5 t r f h., � h� � f1`� i � *c-f�f'� � r''�,,•yt', .F': ' it f j t t,t ' rcs#i1 - , •art �'. SX A t01 � r� 7 i sT, i , � v \ Mt. Plumns6r: I'll tell you irhat, here is where I am at; very tkiftPly; you 66 with the proposal that they are talking about on a permanent basis, I- doll 1t have Any problem with it, OK? because it is not definitely an access. I'm concerned about the 90 daps. INAUDIBLE BACKGROUND COMMENTS NOT ENTERED INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD. Mr. Plummer: Doesn't sound bad to me. INAUDIBLE BACKGROUND COMM 4TS NOT ENTERED INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD. Mr. Plummer: Because that is.a permanent barricade. Mr. Wateres Commissioner Plummer, could I get Calpina to explain this situation we are talking about here? Mr. John Calpinas Commissioner Plummer, I'm with the .Bureau of, Fire Prevention and I worked with these people in the interest of trying to work with us in something that would be... Ms. Hirai: What is your name for the public, sir? Mr. Calpina: John Calpina, and I'm an employee of the City of Miami. Just to explain a little:further.what this restriction, for the -lack of.a better word is, .it isa restriction that: would cause a visual :deterrent, and they-, are hopingt that it will cause a deterrence to normal routine vehicular traffic: - In no way_would'it_inhibit vehicular access. It will be set. Mr. Plummer: But -the first 90 days of those barricades would... Mr: Calpina:: Right, _ Mr..Plummer: :.... and that's -where I'm concerned. Mr.-Calpina: Well, ;they were comingrfrom the standpoint that generally _these things -are done in a`90 day, to determine feasibility in traffic stud.ies'.*etc:., However] -in this articular case it may.: not :be necessary...; p , y z This•: particular ' concept that: they.•.are.talking about inrthe ,interest of the Commission ,�and i those' that, are listening, here, is a, concept, it -is = an.,option..,These .people �I have,: indicated . `that:..they are receptive ; to compliance with .specifications of. —=I the :vehicular apparatus, :or in overhangs, or weights, etc.; and;-it-.would'be. subject to:Fire-Department approval -in their final proposal., k j) Mr. Plummer: •What happens if the people of 69th Street come and ask for., the T' =1 r same consideration? —`; Mr. Calpina: I don't really see, from the Fire Department's point of view that' it- would make any difference, if it, was the:same type of'deterrents that would-allow>continuous vehicular access. At that particular- 'point; though....': Mr. „ Plummer: Hey, as a Commissioner, how do ,:I say > yes to one and ino �.to `the ` other? INAUDIBLE BACKGROUND COMMENTS NOT ENTERED INTO: THE PUBLIC;'RECORD Mr: Plummer: Well,-- but,I'm.saying is, if they ask for the same :consideration, is all I'm asking. - yx r INAUDIBLE BACKGROUND COMMENTS NOT ENTERED 'INTO :.THE PUBLIC RECORD '' rL Nagor Suarez: Yas, we understand that, no; and, the >Qajority :sis not; $o3agt� decide; cthis It's .going to f be .hopefully, reason, . but we �.undaratand`r more that we. ;block; the more. that .others are ^:offected and migtit come in a:#dtr . s ; � r ask far.tha same thing, that is'something we have to grapple with Thank`yoµ{ Jl H r d 4 For gour•>tastimony. Ga ahead, sir. V. Mr, Bruce Rosenthal= Mayor.. Suarez; and, Commiasioners, y hams is Bruop4 iRosenthal, : I' live rat' the :C1i ar-CoAdc�minium on L AlFP l�8 ft9th Bx'pet't a ; aifor any' reap ottorAey',but coi9ge}et4xiQ�; here to spear out~ots.behalf'of the Cltoper whose board is :µnab ° to fths. -:Also, I'vbe authot"ls3ed .to; eak AF , altho}t� thar. rtaa #repxaseAtat ves Present;. oA bahait .of the Baits Bay Coadox'$#.Om � s r g the 'palm Bay approximately previously,.. Tows and the Palm Bay Court, which colieetivelY represent over SOD units. An an aside, the Balm Bay Court Mae Mayor Suarea: Please, please, no more interruptions. thane* to have their say. have a Mr. Rosenthal: The Palm Bay Club was previously a hotel, but it is a residential -office building now, not a hotel. it is approximately halt occupied, so I represent a number of people on 69th Street. We were... just so understand the Clipper's position on this, it is unfortunate that itls an us, vs. they kind of a thing. The Clipper was deeply involved in the founding of the Bayside Residents' Association. One of our directors'helped found'it. _ One of four directore.served as president for two and one-half years. Ware in support of the Bayside Residents' Association throughout its history. We support and contribute to the Crime Watch and help staff the Crime Watch.' There is a vehicle that has been obtained from the City for the benefit of this.. Mr. Mayor, if I... INAUDIBLE BACKGROUND CONSENTS NOT ENTERED INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD. Mayor Suarez: OK, please! Mr. Rosenthal: OK, my understanding is that we help staff it and we do fund it and I,, can state that. I have been a director for ten years'., there and a resident :for that long and I can inform you that a number of people'.that are addressing you tonight have been in that neighborhood for two years -or less.; They did not concern themselves withpeople on 69th Street, they ,did not seek to;obtain.our opinion,"in fact, we were, and;I was specifically;advie.ed.that _ the people on 69th Street did not count, because our street was not being closed, ad we are operating on the notice that is something about 'a week or under. It, is not a complaint about legal notice, because a legal"notice was, given,,but`because of the peculiar configuration up`thera* we are beyond 10000, feet froin..are,,,called the ,affected areas, .because the affected areas''Ake <:. legally 70th, 71st'.and 72nd. I am going to try: to speed along. The Police` _ Department opposes it. There has beeF. n some waffling on the part of` the`,Fire — Department. The..Fire Department in an,April 5th.memorandum,,which-,should be in your packet, unequivocally ..opposed -this, an I understand �'theret; is a Fire, Captain .who .lives "on 72nd Street, and perhaps that. might account 'for some of the differential' that,you've heard tonight,. I, spoke to the`Fire Marshall and.:_' he indicated he approved in concept. There is nothing.concrete, he said basedl, 1 _ on plans that were shown to him, the plans keep changing daily. He also', that he is just a Fire Marshal, the Chief unequivocally opposes this, as, the. Police Department does, because. it may impede. As a...; Mayor Suarez: Are you going to wrap up, please? Mr. Rosenthal: OK as a long time ,resident up there, I can tell' you that'ahat . this is going to do is focus all the traffic there on 69th and.`Siscayne. The MINE north. bound and south, bound opposing left turn lanes on, Biscayne,; Boulevard encroach on each other, .because 69th Street,.which maybe*you can make "out 'froid there, does not cross cleanly. If you went west bound on 69th Street , you'd go right',into a gas station. If went east bound 69th Street to Biscayne; you go right into a health food store, so it in already quite problematic to'turn left.from either.position-and 69th Street is.not a straight .street,.it'.in a.. ® curved street, cars frequently cross in each other's paths. I've witnessed that .a; .number of times_ while driving, and, 71st Street crosses cleaaly.overr. Biscayne Boulevard" and' it's" a -long straight street. ` In closing, I'just f'a emphasize_ the position of the County Public Works Department, have problems with"each of the closuresProjected,with the possible exception of 72nd Street .and I urge you `to consider that, and fiaally, the;; more.,iyQu approve these barricades; the more requests you. are ,going `to have. They, so��;,� prevent crime,•People .Come :.walking and bicycling..; Mayor :Suarez: We,know that, th"e Commission already made,raference to et ��r. issu,* lSr."Rosenthal:' OK, thank you. Yes, I just like to' end,. there is a petti0nyF for the Palm Day ;Condomiaium Association..., s 1 Mayor.Suareai R . r r t¢ht, ;here is three tithes VA �7 0 Everybody will Y 1 iL ad and put into the record any petitions agahst. +ghly`unfair in showing up here at City Hall with A [fig to let you all kiss it, but, you know, the baby, _ Mayor Suareas As we always say, these are very unfair tactics to use on the Commission. Mr. Clark: {cell, we will take whatever advantage we can get. My name it of Brett Clark, I am an attorney and I spoke to Mr. Rosenthal. He said that he In a long time resident of the condominium. I wonder if his wife, who I talked to last night, at his true address at 195th Street knows that he lives someplace also, I think it is highly, grossly... Mr. Plummer: Ohhh, Peyton Place, w00000w! Mr. Clarks,... bordering on perpetrating a fraud on the Commission... Mr. Plummers Ohhhhhhh! Mr. -Clark: .., that Mr. Rosenthal, who says I represent 500 voting citizens of Miami doesn't even live there.' Now, how does he have the gall to come before this Commission and say the citizens don't want this, OK? And he represents citizens, keepin mind, which I guess are not registered within 'the 'City of Miami: - limits and - he is one' of them, who- has totally barricaded theiriseIves within_ a high-rise condominium development, OK? They `have 'guards, they' have fences : the , theyare totally* Isolated from us on the "ground, OK? Now, I think that what the City should keep in mind is Ijust to the north' of our neighborhood is Belle ,Meade and the level of the street'closiag that` was ; — applied �in- 'Belle Mendel is far more' significant than this. Ware only talking about three streets and 69th Street is a logical place, because ,If you go. 'thre thidsdriveVeout of the four; and there is: only about ten houses "along that `street and; the -ohly people:who are going to be affected by- the '>traffic that live on"`those street$, supposedly,' is those"- in'the Clipper` Club, OK? I 'think that" as is" stated in the proposal, you have to weigh the damage -which isrvorse,-being mugged7. in our:drivewa h r; y y, orawing to wait an extra"minute? `' (APPLAUSE) Mayor "Suarez: Let me say this,' "this Commission is`- fully, 'aware of the 'fact that,. any. time we take action' to close off" a 'street,' we create additional,',,, problems for -the other streets that are not closed. I mean, we just*know that that is a.balancing of interest and it is a tough one and I'm not sure than we:' should have ever got involved in this, but we are, I guess. Yes? Mr.` Greg Fields: My name is Greg Fields, I live at 716 NE "71at St'reet,; I'tn opposed to : the barricades. I think that one' of the issues that hasn''t `:been addressed'is"the,'fact that NE 69th is "S"'shaped and you almost ;can't help bui' be thrown-into'the.path of oncoming traffic when you come 'across it:` _ INAUDIBLE' BACKGROUND `COMMENTS NOT ENTERED INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD ' zs Mayor'Suarers. Please, please, sir, no ,more interrupt;ionsl rF ! f ' Mr., Fieldsv1 I "would also like to say that the petition that they` claim 9 t`; � percent of the- residents signed is a total sham and totally invalid, l'Ve ��k�r 4 1. r .y+' s 'K ue. , . 3A. i riy Q gottenr. on a letter that -: I circulated "back, "over" 20 people just is theaat' F, three. ;days; who ''said; I signed' .that petition, but; I didn't }realise signing it or I signed�� it "and I yam sofixy Isigned it "now, nolu6 ng.': �. I Y,s i S {gt4 K' eX vn ilayor. Suarez: wall; .with all due reapact, ' that doeon �t mal�q it tQt�yi 'a that justr means the' people who `signeave bete4kgi°�t more careful'.`, bust... ¢e tf e3 T-it ��• " Fieldsi ` :R.i ht well I don't know $ ` max r 1 r t>c. �. .: any iB. +�a that a �e�►erR4 %� M ba�.iQt wbere 92 '.`percent of t#a =people`; vQt64+iris way.:; s ItaQ�c'$d i�rA le to baliavR that 92 percent of tbqfully infQm�sa pKbiio Slat G�►�a fiY s 11 E �s Mayor Suarezt in Moscow apparently they all voted for one guy there. -5 Mr. F161de t in ` Mosaow, year and, t . !!ti plu idart i hate to ref I you this, but in Miami Shores, they had it on a referendum and it passed 67 percent, I was amazed. Mr. F1*1dst And it did pass by 56 percent. Mr. Plummert 81. Mr. Fieldst I don't think no. Mr. Plummer: I was amazed. Mr: Fieldst My point -is that we are significantly different in the way but, neighborhood is laid out than Belle Meade. There is no cross street.through our`heighborhood. Unidentified Speakert (OFF MIKE) ... 8th Avenue. Mr. Fields 8th Avenue goes between 71st and 72nd,; it does not connect to 70th. It does not 'connect to 69th. There is no grid pattern. 'I'would <`also - like to say 'that I find it difficult to believe - that no homeowner ' on '' 69th . spoke out against, it because the first three- homeowners I went to on 69th Street were opposed'to it -'and I have letters signed by them and I' think that finally I would like to say that even' -if the majority favors 'barricades" in the j neighborhood, I am opposed to even a 90 day trial period. I am'a ne.wspaper reporter at The Herald, I work at The Herald, and 'I have been following. about —� this oil' spill:' It's somethingthat strikes me, all along, these people there.; Mayor Suarez: I' got to -hear the relationship between that and this. . weMr"Field: told' ;we ever make amess, -� are going to be there to clean it up right away. If these 90 day.,,temporary.,., f3 barricades'`turn out to be a mess, what uarantee'do we have that you're going to —'clean it up right, -'away?' MayorSuarez: We remove them, weremove them. OK, .thank you Very imaginative, I'must say, no wonder�he`works for The Herald. Mr W. R: `Smith: My name -is W.' R. Smith, end I live at 1011 NE,'-72nd= Street f - and I'in' speaking in support of the barricades completely, OK? You: "all,, each and, every one of you live in the Grove,,OK? - and.as you know... —. Mr. Dawkins: No no not Mr' ` Smith: Well` then; you moved. The Herald said you -did at . point,' OKT And as you know, there are nice neighborhoods out beyond the Grove in the; City; of ' Hiami and we are 'as proud of our -neighborhood as you -a11" are of ,'tbe =_Grove and we too are `proud of the Grove. We `want to preserve the quality o ".life; <: we. want to be able to walk: in the streets without worrying ;about getting mugged,"OK?'- picking up`crackpots and everything else. We�are`only asking fOr x" a.; trial run, we are not 'unreasonable citizens, if it doesn't :work, it> dbesa't, work`and we:'ll °be the;'first to admit it, but wp just``,�raat to try it,;yust l�Ce- k,k the "other''communities`' liavQ-done and so far; let's face it it :appeaita }tb have f = . been" successful', OK? That's all we want,' we want to try it.'' I doa� 2thak that is ioo''unreasoaable 1#r. `Jim~ShuIvalker: !!y` mime i`s 'Jim Shulwalker, I live on'71a -i- Street;�j�iaid`ft4t�n' opposed, to the � barricaded. Muggsrti, if they era ";going tb'Ang yQu�'tiz*�t'? istreet-;' tkiey are; going to be able to :run easy from you; -,an a bar'trioad� f �s{s " going>:tp atop diem. Samal ody s going to "rob gout hbusp, they can d lv�t m I IZIR your. house grid run .through barricades i that is :.their; 'intoat ;o1 r 4 t ✓' k 4 Tel ,E �"�(A,iyF.. t'otall"q 'rldiculous t0 block off a ' besutifulfi r aighb:Qxhao i w�ti>< tha��►t46�� MR."�*. that . 4 going to protect; you f rom muogera You know; a the` �q i ► #' locksdr door, that' zia going Jto`c�o what It, is gQng`'tA. dow hQoP oh`n x , person;` If' yb�► have a=1puR6e :or a<'thiat, thal► aro gPigo�Rpr,i barriaada at the end of +t Mock `ia not:,going to atgp iwk�am,heih'►�� 5� '� t 1 s r r t fz` ,i�r.. ,. s_ ._ •... , r ... .5 _,. .. ...' .. _ ,. .-.. - .... _ ,- ,.... ..,rx: „J 7,_�: r }` ikl'�r.'s��, .. _. _ �y A. k Mayor Suareat Thank you, counselor. OK, please. Mrs Jose t!lNrqueies Ott, my name is Jost Marques., I own property in the proposed. site changes and outside of the boundaries also. Mrr. ;Plummert. Do .you live there? Mr, barques: I own property there. Mr. Plummers Do you live there? Mr. Marques: No. Mr. Plummer: Thank you. Mr. Marques: I don't live there, but I have my interest in there and I_have. lived there for many ,years and I know what is going on in there.. When Mayor- Suarez say:that everybody comes here with problems because of the barricades, If he is always going to have the barricade problem because people are trying -to., protect themselves and 72nd Street, the condensation of population there,,,is. _ not as -.much as Belle ,Meads. Belle Meade is three or. four times more. people,. there and the traffic at 72nd to Biscayne Boulevard is not much at all. There I` is no traffic hardly there. Anybody who -says here that 69th Street they are going to have jamed traffic, they have to go to other developments and see k what is traffic. We don't have that much... so many cars in the area and I think it ,is _a place for muggers, it is a place for rapes, it's a place for — thief a. I got many people parked, my building being vandalized many .times, �;. and I, wish that my building will be inside of the proposed barricade location there. . i Mayor Suarez: Let me say this to the proponents. Vice Mayor says he is..going, to .make a motion. that n favor of may or may. not be, indicative ;of: the, f sct, .i establishing the temporary barricades.for;.at least some period;.of time, may be. —; indicative,of the fact you have momentum on your side, if so,.I would suggest that you- hold your to and . let's hear from the opponents. Are ; you ,going.> to move? Yes, go ahead and make your motion,out,here,, please: Mr. De ;.Yurre: Well, my. motion is to grant 90, day,,trial period and study V. and. see,- you ,know,; what: the results are :and then we can- revisit the issue in 90 days and make a final determination. Unidentified Female Speaker: Can I object to that? Mayor Suarez: Wait, yes, we are going to hear, from the.objectors. Somebody. going.to second that? Mrs. Kennedy: I'll second. Mayor: Suarez:. 'OK, go ahead, and ;that means that hopefully we won''t havq to ® # hear further from. the proponents. OK, from the.objectors. Unidentified Female Speaker: I object to that,for the..,simpie reason that we all know that usually if. it's on a trail basis, , it becomes permanent..:. It's: much more difficult to reverse it than it ; is to go forward., .. That's number one. , As far as the crime in the area, I live at aloe Palm Bay, which is on 69th , Street., Nothing; has ever been, proved . that .barricades ,stop crime. $ Tlae. —_ crime.: that is., affecting our .area at ,69th Street, as well_ is from toot people. It's the hookers, it a tbe: pimps and it's the. muggers. Xes, i>; is, ; �sgsprrpf;7 L There is rSEP7T13D.. Program, which, is : crime .prevention $through env row deeign,• it'a,.,not. been proved to be that successful. It's ati11 .iffy :and the: xx people that will be affected by,the barricades are going to come in on foot ox lµp' _ by ;• bic,ycle: and they are going,, to , do, th¢:, game ,.thia¢s . with the barricadea without the. be and I think you , are setting a terrible, ${ - hink you, of Mithel8 l ittle Fr a&4 S� . j ry ual things .that I . don't . think , is the image r that we yant City. sad I:„thiE►k it ,::should be dQ£erred a best,Ati3 pl'Xep;,hadi� sit down frith; :the . CtY Piannars an¢ with theepa;R1eAt - kith the .;polioe and wtli; our tteighbgrs -and sPif it :can't' hokrFi �a because th9;: tpaff ?�n.'' Qa °8iscayz}e 84u ava (i is .; gQi�g RR boy ho Ten i t` eouthand.sturning legit into ¢Qth Street, �; 3�.v�.: P ; +F+a {, J -iS -r �. :� f :4' � l �1-:s�' "`^' s �4'��`°xP '"'"� �'r��"��•^,-CacA. 4��$' for yQ a ate: t.iai F a nn l �+ Gt n yo11 E r d 9 " Mr, Jerry Kapakas: My name is .ferry Rapekas, I live at 754 NE 7lat Street, I think out of anyone here, I should know the neighborhood better than r�nyrine also. five lived there for over 24 years. First of all, I'd like to state our house has never been burglarized in the entire time that live lived there; r; second of all, my dad was just carried off in an ambulance today from our := house and I can tell you if there is any way that I would know that if he r would be carried off a second time and it was just a minute too late, t mould d t surely let someone know about it. To add to it, in reference to the crime with people which have barricades, I have quite a few friends who have lived r. there for 24 years, which live in the Belle Meade area. I spoke to one of them today. In the last year that the barricades have been there, he hao'bsen burglarized twice. To add to that, as far as crime is concerned, when people w are being burglarized, it doesn't matter whether it is by car or by foot. I have traveled that neighborhood many a time when I was a child with my friends and cut through many of these people which are here today's back yard, way f before they lived there and made it from 71st all the way to Legion Park and back. Now, to add to the problem with 69th Street "S" turn. The only time''l ever had an accident in my neighborhood was from 69th Street on that "S" turn and I hit a car in the opposite way. I feel that there is nothing else that I i' could say to add to it at this point, but I'm sure there are plenty of things x_ which I have forgotten to admit about it. Thank you. Mayot Suarez: Thank you. Mr. Fair. Mr. T. Willard Fair: For the record, my name is T. Willard Fair. I reside at j 880 HE 69th Street. I live in the Clipper Condominium. I've lived there for _II 17 years. For the record, let me say that Bruce Rosenthal who is my neighbor may have two wives, but at least one lives at the Clipper with us and had been there for quite some time. Let me also for the record say that one should tell me publicly what is the penalty for running through a temporary. barricade, because I do not plan to honor a barricade that denies me the right li to get to my house from any direction based on a public street. So you can get prepared, Mr. Mayor, to get me out of jail when you vote to put up a temporary"barricade in my community. The issue is crime and if the issue is 1; crime, then this Commission and this community ought to deal with crime in.a x �i realistic fashion and not play around with it. We ought not suggestto this — community and to my community that we can respond to crime in a temporary fashion. I will not honor the barricade, if you vote for it, I will be the first one to drive_ through it, whatever the penalty. is, I am prepared to' pay, s it, because I am a taxpayer at 880 NE 69th Street, the Clipper Condominium. { `,ifc Mayor Suarez: I'll visit you in jail. Go ahead. Unidentified Male Speaker: I'm not exactly from the area, I live .at 171st Street, but I am very upset that they want to put up.barriers, that they want to.have their own type of community. We are a community of Miami. I mean, the next thing they are going to want is a wall up in. their" little : surroundings and they are not going to let people, there are ambulances that have to come through, that place and they are not going toi get through at ONE that area. I think that if you want to cut down on the crime and you want to deal with the drugs, you have to go to where the source is and that is ?; rehabilitate these people and show them a way of life, a different way of `-- life, and I think that that is the way to do it, you know as long as there is a demand for drugs, there will be drugs in the United States and you have to _ get people to these NA (Narcotics Anonymous) programs and to rehabilitation Now, the are going to use their taxes 25 cents ever month to: ut programs., y g B ,' y p r up a barricade and to have their little world, but there is still,going to. be 1� crime in Miami and we have to all work together to stop crime, not only. just, i. one section of Miami. Thank you. Mayor Suarez: Thank you for your statement. Sir, last one.µ_ Mr. Frank H. Mitchell: Frank H. Mitchell 688 NE 69th Street. .This would. ! , � al N be a'good thing for the people on the other streets, particularly 7lst Strepty i Anybody that wants to get out, can't getout on 69th Street because the:ra era two west bound roadways,20 feet from curb to curb `and.east.bound roadway that runs by our : house, that's 20 feet `curb to curb..'with `e 13 .'foot ;apedl+e wlt F' i trees, 25 to 40 year old trees, black olive trees in the median. Now, Chats]=Y the 600 block, but all the traffic from wherever bas`to go through th+lt block In order to gain access to north -south;' Biscapne Bpulevard;and tag f w. { r problem pow with 6o ` 1 ittle traff is ' getting out of 69th. Street If ;pow { • , n.. 1 R A l go south. I feel that if you Commissioners would actually see the 111tuAti6ftw you would realise it is a nonsensical proposition. Mary Lichenstain's husband was in the hospital until a few days ago for 28 days and she has a heart condition and she's very much. opposed to this and you have her signatures on one of the letters that Greg Fields wrote. I think that, it may not cover it, but it is all i can think of now. Mayor Suarez: Thank you air. OK, any further discussion from the Commission? if not, tall the roil on the motion. Yes, air. Mr. Kapekas: I'd like to commend the City on having built the park at the end of 71st Street, the way they turned it around. There was a major crime problem before that, with shootings and such at the end of the block in the empty lot. The City has turned it around and placed palm trees there and closed it off. That in itself has deterred a lot of people .from driving down those very streets, air, and I commend the City on that. Mayor Suarez: And I commend both groups in having this amount ofinterest in bringing back the northeast to life, regardless of what we do to day and how some of these problems are solved. I don't think that four or five, six, seven years ago, we would have had this much interest on this kind of a matter In the northeast. It was more like a hopeless situation and we are helping to bring it back and I think you being there and staying there and working hard to improve your neighborhoods have done a lot more than we can do with barriers or otherwise. Thank you for your statement, we don't typically get too many thanks. Mr. Kapekas: Just one more thing, like I said before, there was a few things which I probably forgot. One of them was, I've been in the real estate industry also. Mayor Suarez: But we do have other matters an if this is going to have... Mr. Kapekas: The thing is sir... Mayor Suarez: Sir, seriously... Mr. Kapekas: ... I've opposed paying extra taxes... Mayor Suarez: We understand all that. Mr. Kapekas: ... for what people believe are even going to raise property: values. Mayor Suarez: And we are going to have a set of hearings, on any kind, of permanent position, if we go that route. Call the roll, please. Mr. Don Lewis: If I may, I am from the Belle Meade Homeowners' Association. My name is Don Lewis, I live at 835 NE 74th Street and I've heard a number of the people here this evening speak in opposition of the barricades. Mayor Suarez: Don, are you going to support them on behalf of your association? =2 Mr. Lewis: I would like to support them. Mayor Suarez: Please put that on the record and let's get on with the vote, 4; Don, because we've got many, many more matters. Call the roll. ;s tc r a E ( t u " f J tTr- o1�F,3,5 r 164 ti f � "E•w� :.,.i±wa'w,. i ;^ � -Nt, +ewic+.Y,Kedls�nira(a+� � ^2R fik The following taebiutIon vats iistrbduced by Corr> intoner be Iturrei MltO fdov6d its adbptibns t. RESOLUTION NO. 89-360 _ A R$SOLt*ION AUTHORIZING AND PERMITTING THE RESTRICTION OF VEHICULAR ACCESS TO N.R. 10 STREET, N.E. 71 STREET AND N.E. 72 STREET AT THE ZONING DISTRICT BOUNDARY LINE LOCATED AT THE EASTERLY SIDE OF BISCAYNE BOULEVARD ON A NINETY (90) DAY TRIAL BASIS BY d CONSTRUCTING TEMPORARY BARRICADES ACROSS SAID STREETS, SUBJECT TO CITY COMMISSION REVIEW AND PROVISIONS a CONTAINED 'WITHIN THIS RESOLUTION. I _ (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.) ti Upon being seconded by Commissioner Kennedy, the resolution was passed and adopted by the following votes AYES: Commissioner Rosario Kennedy 7. -f Vice Mayor Victor De Yurre Mayor Xavier L. Suarez NOES. Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins �1 ABSENT: None. j COMMENTS MADE DURING ROLL CALL: —I, Mr. De Yurres OK, the only.,way we can find out whether crime is.preveated-to any ,degree is by doing it on a trial basis and I think that 90 days is not is excessive amount of time and that is why I vote yes. Mr. Plummer: As I said before and I'll say again, I'm totally opposed to the it total barricades that prohibit traffic. I like the idea of the visualv. i barricades which they are proposing and most likely would vote for it if the -. :90:-day trial basis comes to:a conclusion. I cannot, vote., for permanent: barricades to completely block the street to any access whatsoever, so fore _ this motion I have to vote no. .r 48. ACCEPT PROPOSAL OF AMERICAN_TELEPHONE AND TELEGRAPH CORPORATION (AT&T) for multi -year lease/purchase of Citywide telephone system. ------ -------------- Mayor, Suarez: Item 60. P ' Mr. Plummer: I move it. Mayor Suarez: Moved. Mrs. Kennedy: What is 60? s 1 5Y Mr. Plusssmers AT&T.: Mr. Dawkins:i Second. Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded. Any discussion on 60? Why do you look sow§ smug and::,natisfled. and..... ' k �r } uK. },—Y Mr. Ron:Williams: Mr._Mayor,•because... ' - ! , }J +4` Y Mr. Dawkins: We moved it, I mean.we .moved.it,,we don!t nand rio b� x rh Mayor Suarez: :That's a. rhetorical .question. ' Mr. Dawkins. We've already moved it! fYi P K Ty �i' a � s M1 — � yM [h 2^ g h '�� - _ .�:`��w't�•t�;�;?Z?;, ,;dak��RP's.�k�,3''�!`°tat, `'' '=�i Mty iyli a - Chit: tlacisiots you are about to make is an inrreatfb6ht to the City. I would like to clarify something for the record if 1 might. Mr. >Sawkin* i i take back my... Mr. PluMbr: I withdraw my motion. Mayor Suareas Call the roill Mr. Dawkins: I withdraw my motion. Mr. Plummer: I don't want no support. Mr. Williams: It's important I clarify something for the record. I really... Mr. Deakins: I still remove my motion, OK? I'm not going to be here all 4 night, Mr. Williams. I mean, you got my vote, you don't .need to tell tie' I nothing else,' sirl' 3 Mr. Williams! I want you to know how much money you are spending so you don't. i 1 beat me over the head later when you say something. i Mayor Suarez: Well, is that included in the resolution? Mr. Williams:, Yes, but I do need to,clarify, just quickly, the... (- Mr. Dawkins: Well, I've... I don't.move it. ti Mr. Williams: $1,189,000, Commissioner Dawkins, is a one time, or. cash cost k amount. The $401,000 annual is a deferred amount, which.essentially-takes.:the ., total lease purchase price up to $2,000,000 and I just wanted to clarify that for the record. 1 Mayor Suarez: Call 'the roll. Mr. Dawkins: No, there is no roll because I... Mayor Suarez: OK, we have a withdrawal of a motion, do we have a.substitute` motion? Mr.; Dawkins::� I'm not going to, move it. t. Mayor Suarez: Movedby the.Vice Mayor. - Mr. Plummer: I moved it, but, fine. Mayor Suarez: Seconded by the Vice Mayor. Call the roll. Mrs. Kennedys Well, I'd like to hear from them Mr. Mayor, before I -vote: Mr. Fernando Figueredo Mayor, quick comment. Mayor Suarez: You would? Mr. Figueredo: My name is Fernando Figueredo. f� 14 1 Mayor Suarers '-':You :are in favor of this? s- z� Mir, Figueredo: Fernand: Figueredo, representing Southern Bell Quickly, I r_ Just want, to say, that yes'... N, hTMayor'Suarez: O Mr. Figuearedo:', -die!-support the. committee's decision. We want. to congraLvle . AT&T,. for being chosen, juat ,want to say that.. Southern Bell ,plesdge+s' it uI 4 1Z suport 1 to •the.; City,. to insure. -that this'; new• system pis implsmente)d cort'pc � }��#,k and we hope that the' avexall •.aon>=iguration doas save the; City:... t►iT►#v the .'City }:coasids.rable nys.anaunlof monea� tiamandous hew system. TJiank you. n '' , a.= fit% �,�` Alrs. °1Cst►teetty: That :hs$ gQt,to.ba tie nicest`..thing'vq heard a�J dty2 4i u, f •' `r r s tt 4`e. %'w f$i^J'1i3�ry ,,1- _y7j f�g f i z mayor 5uaretc Call the roll. 11hidentitied Speakatt 'Thank you, Fernando, moved no follbWinE resolution was introduced by Commissioner Pluiaher, Wbo Its adoption* RESOLUTION No. 89-361 A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE PROPOSAL OF AMERICAN TELEPHONE AND TELEGRAPH CORPORATION AS THE PROPOSAL CONTAINING THE MOST ADVANTAGEOUS COMBINATION OF PRICE, QUALITY, AND COST EFFECTIVE FEATURES BEST MEETING THE NEEDS OF THE CITY; AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO 49.. ACCEPT i COMPLEMENTARY. PROPOSALS OF 'ENVIRONMENTAL SYSTEMS. RESEARCH :, INSTITUTE, (ESRI) AND DIGITAL EQUIPMENT CORPORATION -(DEC) 'FOFt SpFTWARB` AND HARDWARE COMPONENTS OF A GEOGRAPHIC, INFORMATION SYSTEM r .:�x�ra.~sfi"�teyd'�IC(�eM�54s+M*�w`j '` ' �� • ` It, �61�teed llcs des ;that is s way to digitize all the proo*rties is the:, loy no that. you .csc have an identification, geographical ideatificatioti :for each ha . f the parcels iit the City. Mrs. Rofthody: 0K. } Mr. plunmert Will somebody tell the Manager to come have a seat and quit: Mbidibg meetings in the back of the room? } Mayor Suarertt Do we have a second on that motion? 4 Mr. Plummer: On bl? She seconded it. ? Mr. Olmedillot Commissioner Kennedy seconded Mayor Sue Do we have any discussion? OK, counselor. Do you Want:to state something in the record, Guillermo, on this item? Mr. Plummers Are these people for it, or against it? Mr. Robert Grahams Against this proposal. Mr. Olmedillo: Do you want to hear from.... Mr. Plummert Oh, we are going to have to now. Mayor Suarez: Let's get a staff recommendation. Mr. Olmedillot'' Yes, the recommendation is to authorize the .Citq_.Manager:to j negotiate and execute contracts with two firms, which are Environmental "Systems `Research Institute and Digital Equipment:,.Corporation. This is .a process which started back in... f: INAUDIBLE BACKGROUND COMMENTS NOT ENTERED INTO THE -PUBLIC RECORD. Mr. Olmedillo: The RFP was authorized. by this.Commission in December of '87 I rafter, $350,000, the RFP was issued, in .July ,of '.88. , _There ware four rr 'sponses received. The :only one. that the committee felt that. met• all;ahe requiremen s' i is the combination of ESRI.and DEC,. which is the one that we.;are recommending and :4e : feel that through the process,:' which-, Police, Fire, Soli , t Waste, Planning and :Housing,,we•reached the__ conclusion„of the. best'respoAdent --is':the one' that we .are presenting for you:as.a "recommendation Do you have any questions, anything that you want to. ask? ' w r Mr. Graham: My name is Robert Graham, and I'm with the Digital,'Matrix ' Services, Inc.', which is a Miami corporation located at 3191 Coral Way. been here six years, the principals of which grew -up. in Miami,. There are approximately 30, employees `:here :in Miami,. and,.we have 40;stockholders,.'a t little over 40 stockholders, most of which reside in Miami. It is a minority = ! owned firm, the majority being Hispanic. We produce' -what we believe •'is the most technically advanced GIS sgstam. We have here is that 'the. City has 'chosen, ;saying that nobody else,.meats .:the .,requirements, a; eystetn thats is produced in California and they are asking. -the,. Commission today to; spend $250,000 of their money, not including the computer equipment and send; California without: ever looking at :the..:Miamicompany's product. We ] - understand', and we've seen, because we were :in 'California, the GIS"°of ithe, City =,` = of 'Miami sent people to :`California to:look,at GIS;systems,••.but th4y to4nstgor ten blocks.,to.Corai Way, to•lookr.et.ours.; Mayor' Suarez. ' I missed that Who.:won't, go"'tea- blocks to loojc at ",yora�.x fy+t:4w Mr. Graham; The City of Miami has not seen INFO CADD, our 4roduct.' rs a tipn't send peop?�e to look •at "it- aad examime, to sse a demonstration ,.i. Mayox $uarea;,•.:Why root? drekr, } Mr t•`ws may,. thee acoin?lmdla# If n•f a tr"ip to , e oonfpe�lr�#�,n� ,. , , : i' 1 ri r::x SCr ,7 rFS'ii rcT Ca a and' the ;person assigned- to the GIS project happeAe „to be tt r {I'od ex}+ r, h' # oduct as to ,repiew, I'd llke'�Al `gq a >} they' look'ad at'thb'� IS rthere► .. Now iron► our• depaxtmeet tq "ad dress that issue to addretas tftr�a�fWz t ' reviowing thethe local l si ra b p �+i � •� ' ` y S r i v i� 3 §. ' Y S ji �'-ytY..r..r + -.r-2` F ,'c �.+G;-.,w.sFtNM-x.+ErS«�kwh•,rb� .'- Mr. Alan Roddy: In reference to the issue of going to California, there vas a tbnfer6ne6 lain year; I grant to California and didn't 166k at any of the ayatwns, because the bids were it and didn't talk to any of the vendors. Mayor Suarezt We understand why you saw other one in California. Why didn't h you look at the one in Miami? r` Mr. Roddy: die did not look at the one in California in California, we looked at their local installation just as we did... tY' Mayor'Suareat Well, what about the one in Miami? Mr. Roddy: We looked at the installation that they recommended we look at `; which is in Palm Beach County and the was the RFP process was not up, we asked for considerable demonstrated experience and similar municipal applications. We asked for the names of people doing the police, fire and solid waste and housing` applications we were looking for. This firm submitted, I believe four _ names, two of them were municipalities, we went up to Palm Beach County, k. several of us from the committee, looked at the system there, and they said this is good, but it is not GIS. Mr. Grahams If I may respond to that. — Y Mayor Suarez: OK, see when you are in trouble, you get yourself a big guy, v: Guillermo, that's very good. Mr. Graham: At that point... Mayor Suarez: I think this is the first time you ever testified in City Hall? Mr. Rodriguez: No. He's been here before, maybe he hasn't testified. Mr. Graham: INFO-CADD is a new system and when this RFP came.out, it was on the 'market withoutany installed base. Now, there is installed base. `' They, „- did look at 'a system which is called DIGIT-CADD, which is primarily for a PC >` _ based product. - The INFO-CADD is for the main frame and mini -market. We've fy given` you FM `Automation Newsletter, which is produced by the editor, Chris' '^ Harlow, :which is recognized in the industry as being knowledgeable in this' ``field'- and an expert' and if- '- p you go in here on this, `'I°think°it`was�in`October, of '88, it 'starts out 'in the thing; `- DIGIT-CADD` integrating COGO-CADD GIS`-and speed.` Do .you know which three companies have the hottest integrated CADD-GIS package... Mr. Al Cardenas: Excuse me, Mayor... '. Mr. Graham: Excuse me, but... 4 a Mr. Cardenas: If I may, for the record,.my name is Al Cardenas... .Ih Mr. Grahams Excuse,me! _ Mayor Suarez: Just 'by way of a clarification, I hope, or something, that 3l would warrant interrupting them in their, p g presentation? .� Mr. Cardenas: Yes, yes,' it is, otherwise, you know I'd never do�that.. The reason'why I am interrupting is what your having here, =is you are'having a discussion of a product. Now, counselor, or legal advisor for the`,group'has a �< right 'to` apeak' out against awarding ,the bid to us, but he `doesn' have., a legal,,'` Y right "'to speak out on behalf of his product line; 'dnd the, reaspn '`for" it procedural "and that's why I am interrupting. You had:a task force 'comprisRd of.nine individuals, but... r` !layor Suarez: Well, I'm convinced that he,* has a legal Mr. Graham; -Excuse me, but'... 4'Oil +z% t a�4 Mayor Suarez: Wait a minute, wait; wait. Mr Cardenas: No, no, no. Mayor ' Suarez: Wait, wait, I am convinced he has a legal; right tPa, �" don!t. thitllc it is helping him sny, bacause we,dan't t►ndartnd wh> - v y- - � ,� .� '��, F 7y ��?fix •: — i' �t L , `i 2 , ji Mr. Carde�tait Ito, he doesn't, that's what I am getting to. His fit" "i dlkqualified by your Selection Committee. mayor Suarezt Whit was the reason? Let me hear from the Managers staff on thatt Vat: he disqualified? If so, why? Mr. Rodriguest The criteria that was required was that they gave us names of places in which those applications have been used before locally and based on that information, we will make a decision as to which one will be qualified. When we checked the recommendation made them of the names locally, we _found ; that they didn't have a proper GIS system, `so what I think Mr. Cardenas Ail trying to tell you is that at this point what you have before you in.that you can make a decision to accept recommendation of the committee, or not accept it, but not to consider a new application, which is what they are discussing., Mr. Cardenas: So Mayor, what I... Mr. Grahams No, I'm... Mayor Suarez: We are, not going to get into technicalities. You go ahead and make whatever argument you want, we are going to go ahead and decide and we are going to waste more time in procedural arguments then. We don't have*the capability... Mr. Grahams Without going into... our product today meets the criteria of the City... Mayor Suarez: Of course if you interrupt me, then ,there won't be any procedure`At all. Mr. Grahams .... and they'still refuse to come'and.'.. Mr Plummer: 'The question really remains, did your product meet the criteria , when 'you` bid?, _ Mr.'Odio: It•did not. Mr. Graham:' To my understanding, it did, but there was not an installed base, but they would, not come over, and see. Now, another thing, too, :one other thing`if I may,"`if I `may please... Mr. Plummer: You didn't meet the criteria. Mr. Odio: Mr. Mayor, Mr. Mayor, excuse me... s — Mr. Graham: Oh, I'm sorry. Mayor Suarez: Hey, now wait a minute, wait a minute. I'm going to let him finish ,whatever he' is saying, Mr. Manager, you can add ' whatever' you -wants Nobody else is going.to speak in the meantime, unless a•Comaiasioner wants to ' speak:' Finish what you are saying, counselor. r Mr. Graham: OK of thins here that , one g ,you are .looking at is a five.• :..year implementation of a system. You are not talking about'j`ust $350,000 today, you are probably looking at pumpingin close .to $1,000,000 orai.little bit A' under,.in_the five years and what you are saying is that you are.give this to a Cailfornia company even though a Miami company today meets the criteria and Y 1, believe that the City should instruct these people to go top- blocks; and look.. they say we.'don't have a good system,, forget it., We,are preparsrd to offer., the City,, and I think I've met with some of the Commissioners Ma or'Suarez: You saw; that` I 'into ted Y p your testitaony before and 4ek�td th�#a� about `that; or, "you, 'argument, asked''"them "A out that, and I was i`n a;rested` {7; , enough to ask about . thet, 80.. • "� i4 { v'+� 'i; ki 2Y Mr Grahams I'm;$etting off of_my argument, but If offering:the City tgay„'�`f4'sr,_.' ghat we dill give ' a�'; By$ emp along with : data general computer„. systems arge All we need . is a pace to plus-..in:.the „computer, for jib paotip rto ;s gar, s';x months; we'll gi'eyou., a software at no c ergo. f9, •mp to, s1�c IWQ lit,,. ._ _ .... { : - , .... ..� .. .,• ,i.:. .. ,. .. ; .: Ci. .i 1.F�.',T*iSL�ICM+� .1�� -- - _ 1 }ys � 5 *��' 'P�.+u,+fit9�*.�HY"as vfr'�• i'G-^�'1_'i`,at'4f'?'f3rd:�... Mayor `Suat'at: Let me trek; a question. Now long is this contract fort Mow, long is the contract that we its signing? Ve're just buying the oquipment9' Mr. Roddyt ror however long it takers to install it, it just a person... Mr. Rbdriguets It's just a person. Mayor Suarets Maybe if it doesn't work out, we'll take you up on your six months free. Mr. Grsham: ,tell, what I am saying is, you are going to install something that takes a five year implementation and you are going to be spending over this five years, quite a bit more. Mayor Suarez: You are quite a negotiator in offering six months free use, but... 5-. Mr. Graham: OK,'but anyway, and I would invite, the other vendors are right here, invite them to do the same, put them side by side and see which... Mayor Suarez: We can't change the terms of... Mr. Grahams No, I in saying if the Commission in its wisdom decides to reject the bid that is put now, they can do this. Mayor Suarez: OK, thank you, air. Mr. Manager, do you want to give us the... or emphasize the City's... Mr. Rodriguez: Basically, I want to reiterate for the Manager, the bidders didn't get the recommendation from the committee, represented by Mr. Graham'. went to"the Manager's office based on their request, we went and looked.at;the;--.:: whole thing again to make sure that the Selection Committee had done a proper job in making, checking every. possibility on this, and. we pulled the item out of the agenda last time to give us time to go to the site and check,it again and we are completely convinced that the selection made by the 'Selection:' Committee`is'correct and we stand by it. ' Mayor``Suarezi`OK, `anything further? Mr. Graham: " And= again I would- say,thatthey. have never., looked once, at :the INFO-CAPP`=sof tware . Suarez:: That certainly`is... Mayor` : Mr. Graham.- Another thing, I'm just saying that the City of Cleveland..: ~`< Mavor Suaremz . _ _ a neint that nnItIVA hammars.A'dnrm_ r,r. a,awxausr Na: puL_ OUT. an. xrr, .iz was resppnoed..to and:' al rssapos i ed.'to, the company that is contesting did not. meet h r ,py M t et �:} !�d iAYVe�ri^v4Wvyci(LksYlh 2nr}tzAxM,.'4fc{�� '4qn'.,rTTS Mr. Dawkinst Thank you, air. Mayor Nuar6at All right, Comtsel6ners, I'll entertain a :notion on this. Mr. hernandeat To your options, Commissioner Dawkins, is to accept the recoftimb dation made by the City Manager' or reject all bids for groper grbunda. Mr. Cardenas: Mayor, I'd like to, if I may... Mr. Plummort No, that's not true. We can override the City Manager and award — it to another company. There's another alternative. — Mr. Fo rnandezt If it was in fact not disqualified. In this case the other company has been disqualified by the committee through the process. Mr. Plummer: That's the committee. We didn't disqualify them. Mr.' Fernandett But you set the committee in place to do precisely that. Mr. 'Plummere You are telling me that the committee has the authority to disqualify a bid? Mr. Fernandez: -If they have proper grounds, applying the criteria... Mr. Plummer: And we don't have the right to overrule a committee? Mr. Fernandez: Yes, by rejecting all bids. Mr. Plummer: We can overrule there... we've got to throw out all of the bids? Mr.` Fernandez: < You. Mr. -Plummer: Then toe need to get rid of committees. (LAUGHTER) . Mr Plummer: No, no not "We put them there to review and recommend`, period Mr Fernandez: And that is what they do and the Manager comes to you with .. Mr''.''Plummer: They can review and' recommend ail they want, and if' you 'know that 'my. '"argument is always as strong, if' they'don!t qualify,.`throw them the { hell out'; `but not the: committee doing it, not the' committeeCommittees; in ak my estimation and if I'm wrong,'' let me, ,toll'`you, I am :`going to fight dike hell to change whatever rule there 'is now. A'conmittee i"e; nothing more than a recommending body to 'this, Commission.' The 'buck stops here. Mayor Suarez: Yes, but there'are'some'technical requirements that have to'be. delegated to'a'`'committee that has the technical ability to 'evaluate if somebody should be disqualified'or not. Mr Plummer: But we can overrule them. Mr. Cardenas: Mayor, if I may. Commissioner... y Mayor Suarez: Well, maybe in establishing criteria that would... Mr. Cardenas: If you give ens three minutes,' ,I' 11 `explain . it all . in a' 'vra that. y a Mayor, Suarez: Why _would; you want to do that? Why would you want to dp than? r You are' "repreae iting, presumably, the company that h'aa been recgw6hdi0d , } right? Mr. Plumme 1 x: He :likes: to hear himself tail: � �;, ( � Mr. Cardenas: No, I'`listen, I `am` a Vgood listener. U- l�ehp>ildm�t` # e1 Y S ' Mont speak: lff you have any questions... r , : ,F �,�Y _ ;� -.r .F ., � ':: :- %;:e , •�z i{ ,:: 1 �' �-7� :�' v 3 �a ?%��.... F'��y:w�i�� de. Mayor Su,arerst I mean, 5 unless somebody i$:goias to -make °a'mpt'�OA�prk`Qly ov&rrple the recommen atti'on$. x r $j" s1, '� Rp, rr Mrs l'iunasri. I Wattt ti°o oppose this �rsiinS,:` but t gun :hpQi to Fp D t t �ii.i r. s Fi tia�+or Suaree: Corot tasioner gran I think we.. Nr.. piummert of the subpitta' e6mmittee do it. Mr. Dawkins: to Mayor Suarez: S at a later time. — Mr. Graham: I + �1 r5bx k�*o-cc Fs++ +�+^f1 4'��S"7F +•;fs - 'Y [ghti I th.ean, we've got a recommendation and unlea,t,";so" .to hear more why we should not go with the recow"ridatioN :cept the fact that this firm was not qualified at the time of the bid. I trove item 61, but I am not going to. let.; Is nd. moved and seconded. Yea, well, let's get an opinion ow.that We don't have to decide that at this point, please. uld Just like mention, I me an there are other peopls,.that :. Mayor_Suareze Oh, I'm sorry, on the same... Mr. Grahams Yes. One other thing that I would just like to say, that you heard that they disqualified everybody but one, so really, there was no,bid., Mayor Suarez: That is unusual. Sir? Mr. Plummer: Ian this opinion, they disqualified.... Mr. Greg Neff e. Yes, ,I am._Greg Neff with Data General Corporation., I , don't know ,how many of you are familiar with Data General, but we are a One and one _ half billion dollar computer company based out of Massachusetts. Now, "we've worked with Digital Matrix over the past three years to market their products throughout, actually, throughout the world. Our . first, product ,.that we started to , market' with.:them was about, I don't know, two and. one-half, .,:three .years ago, with a DIGIT-CADD product, which is a CADD product, of which 'they`have over 4,000 installations world wide., Now, about six months ago, we began to soll,.out,this pro duct, throughout ..the United. States, the'INFO-CADD product_, by .the way, which was proposed here to the City here in Miami. Now, ainceithat''` time roe .sold about.four .systems, primarily here in the southeast, .we got+such: _ folks as, the Army, the Navy, the Air Force, the U.S. Forest Service,. Texaco, Arco,. lookingat, this, product.In fact, the Air Force has requested A. -pilot,. system which would be a trial basis of the product for 30 days and ::that would.._ begin.,.May .:1. The U.S. Forest :Service, also .'which would constitute Installation of over'500 systems throughout the United States; they asked 3 :'for a+.pilot system also to beg.n, June 1, so I guess what .Robert. -and myself _A trying',.,to''sa , this product, is, robabl the most technolo icall advanced ... Y P. P this market i place, today and al we are asking the ;:City `of Miami to:= do is to Took at, the product. We realizE that .we were. dike. the kid out, of ;college_ when" ;: you put your bid out, we had the education, but.we didn't have any experience ' k And.ill we are asking for is the opportunity to show you that we have the new latest and greatest state of the rrt product that_ can do the job Mayor:.Suarez: That's two companies that state., that we didn't look>. their product. Any particular reason in this case? Mr. Olmedillo: It's, the same ,group. One is buying the product.from;the,other. one. Hayor: Suarez: You made me hear all of that "a8 if ;.we were talking about a different company. _OK.,Commiss-ioners? Ready, to act on 'this? Has aAybodq �', moved 'it? Yes, sir. a Mr. Tyrone Williams: My name is Tyrone Williams of Williams, Russel],: and Johnson,=acgiseers, -architects and, planners, We are a fir::i based Atlanta, but have been doing, business is Miami: area :for .the past five We've s .yrQrked out i�t: M jj atgi :I�ntertat Deal Air ort 0 eloc e' a J t P 1 r zt` - 1 #�i'f y. ' -1^ er +i"�r•,t' S' pojectp Now we are , working 44h.biaeo,.County yeblc Shgo� on k pr�irjYz�`. nsrtagemertt fQx the bil'Xion'doll4tri. ono .f0reedum for achaQis #here,1.3 came in yg4 ntact'� with us :probap q , epprox:imat: computer services director, for `-t1 s company that slap taa�er fpr nl±�ilep.�.�4(( transpertat.ipn ;serxicesf We. ,;are . ~..beta,' sitg #orb the prQduct�,amds'�► ;: , fusilier with i,s'sipce px;iQr tp th:. bid +gQt�i�. pytf at,'theaimar;tgt? . Yl f. i } wileoG, but a ;tosllt:,.installesl. ,kasa t l'm fat�lllar ;t,ixta ,te�prodt 'Pr Y r fooled 4t , +unite s #ewe pr.Qd�tets, C1 acdi ad,tivgp a S f �A.j ! V { a { 0 watched the growth and maturity of this particular package. They can do what the City of Miami wants. 'they are experienced, they have always been in platform, they could be adapted for Gig. They have matured. Literature that you have there before you right now indicates that they have been reviewed,by� some of the beat gurus in 018 in the industry and those people have..baen quite pleased an astonished. The package does things that other packages don't do and in a speed and a performance training productivity manner that in terms of actual costs to the City for training people and installing systems, it will be a substantial savings to the City, in the long run. Mayor Suarez: I have to tell staff that as I see it, and I'm not an expert in the field, it is beginning to sound to me like you are getting pretty close to _ a situation where you have almost very similar products, you know, some a little better than others, some newer, some more tried, and they are almost fungible and maybe at some point, we ought to get into a situation that we first select you know, the ones that do qualify, obviously, if they don't qualify, they don't qualify, and try to tailor our specifications, you know, in the broadest possible way. Then we go to blind selection by pricing and in _ closed bidding as we do for contracting where we feel, you know, public works contracting, where we feel that we can select from among equal bids on the basis of price. This applies not only to this particular selection here, but to many others that we do for professionals in other situations. I really think a lot of those are quite equivalent, accounting firms and so on, and maybe at some point we should be having a little bit more price competition here, we'd get a lot cheaper products for the City. I gather this is not one of those cases., but I am hearing that these products are not all that different, some a little better than others, some a little bit more state of the art, newer and so on, and besides which this Commission is hardly able to decide really, as far as the actual product. It is just beyond our capability. Mr. Rodriguez: On those lines, Mr. Mayor, this group that lost the bid, their bid was $500,000, which was higher than .the one that was. selected ,by the committee. Mayor Suarez: OK, what is the cost of this...? Mr. Cardenas: $330,000. Mr. Graham: Excuse me, Mr. Mr. Cardenas:, $330,000. Hr..;.Graham: Excuse me, :what .I'd like to ask that- for the five year; ` implementation, can.you tell the. City how much, you know, if, you were to ,put �._ another computer system would be, because your system is not going to last for five years. This bid for the one year, and the reason ,ours .4s higher is because... _ Mr. Plummer: Well, how much would your system cost over the five years? ;x- s Mr. Graham: What we bid, plus an additional maybe, 430,000,'$4.,000 a year a for the rest of the.time, where I believe theirs, they bid a computer system . that.would run the seven systems which you wanted run the first,year, but.not` the thirty-five, which you want to run during the terms of the system... Mayor Suarez: Your analysis is based on five years' use? F. Mr. Graham: And I was told by Mr. Roddy that it was a one year. Mr. Roddy: The five'year cost of the whole project? s Mr. Rodriguez: It was over five years. Mr. Roddy: No, the project was a one time acquisition. We; are not xure,., 5 -� exactly how much it will go, our how much our needs will grow. We ask tide `- j vendors to specify an upgrade path. We know we' will add work.'stati to an, eye become used, needed, and it's the department's ability to fund them.:„ Mr. Cardenas: Long and short of it, Mr. Mayor is that :we . were „ some thousand dollars cheaper than they were. We ;had all the experlez��es iz} � �'� �� Y� • the world at the time of, the bid. This is the largest group :fin ,tiiQ ooµ}try, both in software and hardware, We have a local .black minority fig► inviek r. s, r }94- _ r1 4 j^p� GNi.w twm jW Yvl?"�Af'3�iN THWV 4�.� bn' `k . b win win situation► for the City -The bid process was over, the 14 day period in the software process. ' The software company is SC percent awned. within which to contest the bid was over, the folks here didn't protest it#. they went back, took out their caahier's check, put it in their pocket. Four �. months later they came back to complain about it. Clearly, you have rules of the game. All of them were broken and now you are here on this kind of... It's not even a close contest) Mr. Neff: May I make a statement? if we Mould have bid the same sine that they bid, our bid would have been around the 4200,000 price range. system Mayor Suarezt I gather that this Commission is going to have to act based on recommendations. Anything further from the Commission? Do we have a toot ion? Mr. Plummer: Yes. Mayor Suarez: Do we have a second? Me. Hirai: Yes,.sir. Mayor Suarez: Call the roll. Mr. Herman Miranda: If I could add one... Mayor Suarez: Wait, let's hold it for a second. You've got to tell me that you want to testify on this issue, not as we are getting ready to vote. Yes, air, 'go ahead. Mr. Miranda: My name is Herman Miranda, I'm president of Digital Matrix, and. I'd just like to add a couple of comments. Mayor Suarez: Is that one of the companies we've heard from now? The names all... Mk.'- Miranda: Digital Matrix is the software company that put. out the... One .question, my only comment to this thing is, not to tell the Commission,- ihe'committse'or anything what to do. It's typical in a scenario like"this,: especially p y ,,ia,a_. technical scenario, we find ourselves in a very awkward... position that somebody didn't come on such a large scale bid, directly to the`. source', get information about. whether or not we were" a GIS system, directly — fiom'Digital Matrix, Services. This was never even attempted. We`,tried, OK _ Our biggest complaint here, is not, you know, whether the bid came "in too,,;late or what have you. Our biggest complaint here" is that ° here is `a Miami'` �fir:e`.` that has a qualified product and our own City refuses.to see' it, and that's the biggest complaint we have _and I think this is not fair, this is local all we`are `asking is for a chance, if we don't technically qualify,.then.throw' us out, but I don't think that is going to be the case, if we were, given the x �. opportunity. to look at our product,`OK?• So this is basically all I wanted to,: say, is there wae'not given a fair chance to look at a Miami firm that has"a` competitive product. The whole judgement was made on. comments by :third parties. '" They went out to different sites and they talked to` the".sitest a#id basedon what they talked to the sites, which they say that'we 'do sot have.a GIS system, which is totally not true, OK, they made the recommendation that we were not f it by not even actually looking at one of our . screens, and I'` . think that is not true. Mayor Suarez: Thank you for your statement. Commissioners, anything,.-furtherfi Now call the .roll. r t y r i ! F% i,�" N. eeikl��'44 7.Jsy1..�.ffig_pfi{ ,r Tt'v�h. I = The following resolution was introduced by Comissioner Plueher, obb ino{ved its adoptibns RESOLUTION No. 89-362 A RESOLUTION WITH ATTACHMENT, ACCEPTING THE COMPLEMENTARY PROPOSALS OF ENVIRONMENTAL SYSTEMS RESEARCH INSTITUTE (ESRI) AND DIGITAL EQUIPMENT CORPORATION (DEC) FOR THE SOFTWARE AND HARDWARE COMPONENTS OF A CITY OF MIAMI GEOGRAPHIC INFORMATION SYSTEM (GIS), PURSUANT TO REP NO. 87-88-117 AUTHORIZED BY CITY COMMISSION RESOLUTION NO. 87-1001, AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO NEGOTIATE AND EXECUTE CONTRACTS WITH ESRI AND DEC, IN A FORM ACCEPTABLE TO THE CITY ATTORNEY AND IN SUBSTANTIAL ACCORDANCE WITH THE PROPOSALS SUBMITTED BY THE RESPECTIVE VENDORS AS WELL AS THE PROVISIONS SET FORTH IN THE ATTACHED MEMORANDUM, FOR SAID PRODUCTS AND SERVICES AT A COST NOT TO EXCEED $202,161 (ESRI) AND $126,044 (DEC) WITH MONIES ALLOCATED FROM THE GEOGRAPHIC INFORMATION SYSTEM, CAPITAL PROJECT NUMBER 314232. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Commissioner Kennedy, the resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote: AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. — Commissioner Rosario Kennedy Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins Vice Mayor Victor De Yurre _ Mayor Xavier L. Suarez NOES: None. < ABSENT: None. �E COMMENTS MADE DURING ROLL CALL - Mrs. Kennedy: I always try give the edge on Miami based companies, but based' f; on the arguments I heard, I vote yes. Mr. 'Dawkins: You know, I constantly hear y g y {' _ , y .you say than we did not ive oua r _ fair shot, OK?;� Mr.' Graham:`` I'm'saying you did not look at our product. _ Mr. Dawkins:OK, but yet I hear you say•your product was not in place when ve``' had to Took at them: Mr. Graham: The product was in place, -itwas not installed- in alocation-in Southern Florida at that time. You could have come to the office and seen it. ' Mr. Dawkins: Yes, you could have brought it to us. Mr. Graham: We tried, they won't come and look at it. $` Mr. Dawkins: You see, you keep 'making the City of Miami appear bad;' OK? _- ' + _ Mayor Suarez: Commissioners... 4z Mr. Dawkins: Now I am strongly in favor of local qy. g y participation, ,all right? and all of us up here, but'we can't go locally if you are in West Palm Beach3 .... OK'?'; i Mr. Graham; I, understand that, we are in Miami, ten blocks from you, but just- wanted to add.`. x t Mr. Dawkins:- But you did not have` your*.product on line in ,Miami, as petr the# ¢5 RFP, QK?. : That's all, ;' ° . � ly { Mr. Graham! C oox, beeaustl t, 50. ACCEPT T NECESSAR monies a 314232). y � Y'•' S .t r.• ,S a 34 3.nx �95 a : sYy LNG S ri z at 6111y One is bide County and Dade County is 166king at -Us don't like the product you are purchasing. i�...Y-.riY.Y.---•�'..•asiYJYfiYYl,iG1Y.iUiirYL1.iAY.Sri.�ir..�s��11►wYb�uw�Y.rFw _ ... y+�F •x.u:.s:�:' . 11014 DY CTK INTBCH, INC. Olt COMPUTER SOFTWARE AND SERVICES DEVELOP A MODEL OF CITY'S TRASH COLLECTION SYSTEM - with ated from deographic Information System (Capital Project No. Mayor Suarez: Item 62. Mr. Olmedillo: Item 62 is related in the sense that this is the first - application for the system. Mayor Suarez: This is just accepting donation of software? t Mr. Olmedillo: Accepting the donation, but at the same time, accepting also expense up to $9,500 from the GIS funds to pay for travel expenses. The product itself is given to us, to be tried and to be placed. "- - Mayor Suarez: $9,500 for traveling expenses? 4. Mr. Olmedillo: That is 'correct. Mr. Roddy: Up to... - Mr. Olmedillo: Up to that amount of money. Mayor Suarez: Where are..you going to, the North Pole? ,v Mr. Rodriguez:. They will be coming back over here to... any` Mr. Roddy: The;firm anticipates six trips to and from Dallas 'to Miami' to help us work on development. A R., Mayor, Suarez: To et.ever thin hooked u ? � Y B Y g P r g Mr. Dawkins: For $9 000 to o from here to Houston three times? Mr. Rodriguez: We would want to... Mr. Roddy: They asked for the ability to have up that amount of money, and they would submit vouchers for every bit of it. What we -are getting ;from this p' - �_ is we are joint developing some software to do solid waste, routing districtingapplications, based on a. GIS, based on the platform you:°just, pF= accepted. We work with the Solid Waste Department on this and 'what... Mayor Suarez: What is the value of the software that we are getting donated? r"1 r I' kr Fry Mr. Roddy: Hard to say what they'll sell it for, probably: anywhere $30,000; $50,000. They have a .basic software package,' but .they worked with t P t municipalities to get it up to speed so they can sell it. We had the opportunity to -work with them, we can use the software. !Mayor Suarez:' Do you want to approve it: with the proviso that the MaAager Planning Director, monitor the expenditures for the traveling fees. -..,art t Mrs. Kennedy: So moved. rJ Mayor` Suarez. `r,;. not a blank ;check up to $9,500, just approved amount, 'butsubject to the Manager:keeping an eye on' the : traveliagost�s. Do 4� = r� We::; have a` second: Mr. Dawkins: Yes,;: second ok.$ ri kF° 1+ 7:31 LJy' � n Mayor Suarez: Second; call the roll. i - ■ ': ! .ys'� shyllt`"jw''�1 r ; y �r The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Kennedy, who thaved its Adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 89-363 A RESOLUTION WITH ATTACHMENTS, ACCEPTING THE DONATION BY GTE INTECH, INC., OF THE COMPUTER SOFTWARE AND - SERVICES NECESSARY TO DEVELOP A MODEL OF THE CITY'S TRASH COLLECTION SYSTEM, WITH REIMBURSEMENT OF TRAVEL EXPENSES ONLY TO SAID FIRM, AT A COST NOT TO EXCEED w $9,500, WITH SUCH MONIES ALLOCATED FROM THE GEOGRAPHIC INFORMATION SYSTEM, CAPITAL PROJECT NUMBER 3142321 AUTHORIZING EXECUTION OF THE ATTACHED PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH SAID FIRM FOR SUCH ADAPTATION. ={ (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Commissioner Dawkins, the resolution was passed ,. and adopted by the following vote: _ AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. h'r Commissioner Rosario Kennedy Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins u_ Vice Mayor Victor De Yurre r. _ Mayor Xavier L. Suarez ti- NOES: None. ABSENT: None. _i - - --------------- -------------------------------- - - - 51. ACCEPT 'GRANT FROM TACOLCY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENTCORPORATION - for revenue fund: "Edison Center 'Gateway Improvements" - for landscape construction for Edison Center Commercial Revitalization Area Accept grant and rt_ enter into agreement with TEDC Accept bid from Build -all Construction, =' Inc. for landscape construction services. nn ------- -------- ----------------��_- t Mayor Suarez: Item 63, Tacolcy Economic Development grant. 1{t Mr. Elbert Waters: Yes, good afternoon... Mr. Dawkins: I move it, but I need... x Mrs. Kennedy: Second. Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded. Commissioner Dawkins. r Mr. Dawkins: I need to know, you got 465,000 down here as base bid and you a, V% me are asking me to approve an amount of $54,000. Where will the difference co from to make up the $65,000.. Mr. Elbert Waters: The difference is on... Elbert Waters, assistant diroctor. ' of Planning Department. The difference, Commissioner, comes out of monies'r that have been appropriated from the City's portion, which is.$60000, 1 five... F Mr. Dawkins: Thank you, no further questions.{ ` Mr. Waters:' OK. ` Mrs. Kennedy: Have the bids been awarded?�r - Mr. Waters: The bids have not. We have a companion item number 05 What Xei'Ir * need todo, with your approval is to accept the. ; Admia#stratrM Fecommnendation for accepting the grant. Once that happens; we.go appropriations ordinance to place those dollars in .that' ordinances sty You award the bid. -` 1 YYyy�� % �4 Yv�btCa 1 ) f t�• i! 1W }a and Jul Mr. Waters: Nell, PUblId move forth on, it Mayor Suaress Try for A motion and a second. Call ti �s hZ k _ ra' 4i� eK fi'i:r-romu�sy ysiiy. sat�%d,+4�%+�'.�tH"Cifri fuickly; when is the work going to Atatt'i rkb has indicated that beginning is May; `Vft dbuit 1. Did you want to add anything? OX* We have t _ e roll; read the ordinance. irlavnr_ , K: � F J. T Sdifott Center i`AV61 Tacolcy, Economic Trinsp6rtati6n. Mayor Suarez: Item 64. Mr. Dawkins: Move.. Mrs. Kennedy: Second. flavor Suarez: An emerit : 17 ON k rt—t A6I�.iYriiwW- Amend Ordinance LOS21 Increase Wropriatitbn- fbr-: ►y'improvements (Project No. 322054) as a grant lro6 Development and frog Florida Department of � i—WW------Y►—Y-Y`tY---- -----rYiYcw�Y��i��YY�w�.w.i,ii—`..•. icy ordinance. Moved and seconded, any discussion? 55 ;=DISCUSS'.AND,TEMPORARILY:DEFER,APPOINTMENT;TO-HERITAGE_CONSERVATION.BOA] `(See, label .57):: ..lot Mayor Suarez; 67, a of appointments axe , following 'here. Yes, Guillermo Mr.. Qlmedillos 67. is an appointment;:. tq.. the Heritage .Conservation Board, sgi t�ayorDp Xxre :,has tl�e vacancy, there and Leonardo Alvarez fs a lace` ladsCAj �►rchitect ,has Advertised and," he is the,' opl' one who :had `filed for tJ po,sitioa.l k- rr� Hr.. Fetxnanders . Haa applied, not` advertise¢. , Mayon Suarez; We, have to p4bllph ag .inn on Chet', ox ?do4s "i ��► publlshed7 t 4 x ,t .. r Mr, ffimsdil +b: No, he alraady.., he was advertised and everything, he mailed the raquirOnfits. The vacancies were Vice Mayor be Yurre and he's suggaetthk that we continue the it6m- Mayor Suarert bK, 61 is deferred. 56. APPOINT HECTOR GASCA AND SILVIO DIAZ TO LATIN QUARTER RBVIKW.BOARD. --r------------ .,._.---- --------- .....__-..__�. 1 Mayor Suarez: item 6e. Mr. Olmedillo: 68are the vacancies on the Latin Quarter Review Board. We _ have a situation by which some of the members have served out theft terms: They cannot be reappointed after two consecutive terms and then you are losing. a: series of people like Willie Bermello, Bob Chisholm, Carlos Mancio, Luis Sabines and Rodolfo Sanchez. Mrs. Kennedy: Commissioner Dawkins and I have appointments. I'll give you mine..* oh, you have one_? Mr. Olmedillo: Yes, you have. Commissioner Kennedy,,.you have. -.one, Commissioner Plummer, .you have one, Vice .Mayor De Yurre, you have two. Commissioner Plummer, you have two, I am sorry. You have two appointments to make. Mr. Plummer:, I.have. one today, it is Hector Gasca, and I will reserve my ' other one until the next meeting. Hector. Mayor. Suarez: Now, these two don't have to be published before, did they? }! Mr..Olmedillo: You have in the package, you have some of the people who did'., I file and they question... Mayor Suarez: Did these have to be published, or*could I just come up with a. name for .my appointment? Mr. 0lmedillo.._-They..do have to be published, _but I believe the Clerk had to ' jforward to you which ones had already been published and everything i Sq i rx Mayor Suarez: I don't care which ones were published. If .I have to, 7 _ just come,;up with.a name, .I have someone in,mind.. Mr. Fernandez: No, you cannot come up with a name. �; Mayor. Suarez:. Thank you, Silvio Diaz, Dr. Silvio Diaz, for my appointment. h a ; 4 would like to actually reappoint Mr. Bermello, but apparently he can'.t serve r anymore. i Mr. Olmedillo: He'served out:two-consecutive terms Mayor Suarez: Thank you. Dr. Silvio Diaz nominated. I Mr. Plummer:. I'"11,save my.other one until the next meeting. yt Mayor Suarez:.. OK,..the:.onse that: have .been nominated, i.n the form o. =a sagti,AA+t ; Mr. Dawkins: So moved.- f �. f Mrs Kennedy: SeeondJ. r z} . Mr. Plummer: i T Mayor Suarez: Call the' roll. t t JM`Jil'F2'ilf� .n . S 22#� TLi je � e 1 . -�: �,. r t �. r ` t Jffi . , _.�-�-uiiLL.yWi...S.fYiiiiiL i -� Yrriirr iii` i i rriiit�Yri.Brrw.rii.'iri:iiifr iir�.►i 98. COMH15SION ON THE STATUS OF WOMEN: Confirm appointments .: Appointed v6fe: Alicia Baro, Conchy Breton, Nikki Beare, Cynthia Coehran, Biantia Calvet, Luisa Garcia -Toledo, ]Ruby Hemingway, Monna Lighte, Many McCray, Judy Miller, Anita Itafky, Verhtka Silva, Kathleen Shea, Julie Tigei acid Clare Whelan. Mayor Suarez: Commission on The Status of Women. Mr. Plummer: Whose appointments are they? Hello? Mr. Fernandezt These appointments are appointments that are recommended... Mayor Suarez: The board itself makes them and we confirm them? Mr. Fernandez: Exactly, correct. Mr. Plummer: What are the names proffered? Mrs. Kennedy: They are nominating 15 people? Mayor Suarez: Alicia Baro, Conchy Bretos, Nikki Beare, Cynthia Cochran, Blanca Galvez, the ones listed there? Mr: Fernandez:' Correct. p Mayor Suarez: Luisa Garcia -Toledo, Ruby Hemingway, Monna Lights, Mary McCray,. Judy Miller, Anita Rafky, Verneka Silva, Kathleen Shea, Julie Tiger and Clare Whelan. Mr. Dawkins: Moved said names. Mayor Suarez: Moved the names, Mrs. Kennedy:', Moved, yes. Mayor Suarez:Seconded, call the roll. The following, resolution was introduced by Commissioner Dawkins,: v. moved its ad option:x RESOLUTION NO. 69-369 ; A RESOLUTION CONFIRMING THE APPOINTMENT OF AND APPOINTING CERTAIN INDIVIDUALS TO SERVE AS MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION ON THE STATUS OF WOMEN. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Commissioner Kennedy, the resolution was passed. and'adopted by the•following`votes r AYES] Commissioner J. L ' Plummer, Jr. ' Commissioner"Rosario Kennedy 'Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins j F Vice Mayor Victor De Yurre (t Mayor'Xavier L. Suarez x"r= h ;WA t i, kt S9y.y b� ! NOES i None. ABSENT:, None* Mayor Suarers In there another set of appointments there? Mr.I Plummer: No, tha oply one missins is mind on the I,atiu Review Mrs. Kenney: I Dave one on . the 1.atc in Rsvie�► ` 8oar t1#e I'll 61 lt4►DX� t y. 3-C�t .yx di JFA time a, w .y. ---- A.Prpla ..'_' R Mn-.da.<. �;j� v4k+9hw YfF'?{x�1SZeTt1,+:laltG�i • ' have wao on the Latin.. 1Y MANAGER'S FINDING OF EMERGENCY REGARDING THE "MOBILIZATIM Oh 0 OVER PUBLIC SAFETY AGENCIES DUE TO JANUARY 16,: 1489 `=Vtb ICE,+,. Authorize purchase of food, tear gaa, gas masker, body; `nd helmets from various vendors, and STX radio batteries from Communications and Electronics, Inc. Item 71. 7 445 �T �, t _ v ; • i - 77 raiiwlYY�rtiiGiiiiiY iul�i�iGHG�iIYY.Y _.. ..... ... ." -... .. '- -. •'. 60. AUTHOR I28 MMISSION OF AMOMED 14TH YEAR COMM INITY DMLOPMW 3L — GRANT (CDW PROGRAM FINAL STATRMENT TO V.S. HUD Reflect allocation of $105o00000 for CD "Float Grant" Loan (1989-90) r Authorize Manager to present fot Commission approval all agreements required to provide a - loan to Chalken Corporation for renovation of a building and establishment of neighborhood nonprofit vocational school rrr+.ararlra.r�rr�r.N.rrrrrb.��rrrrrr.rrrrrrrrrrr..rr—r—rrrrrrrrrrrr�.rrr�rrrrrrr+rU..�r.►rr ' Mr. Dawkinst I moved early this morning that 72 be deferred. Mayor Suarez: We deferred 72, even though I didn't cross it out of sny item list. Mr. Plummer: Let the ask... Mr. Fernandez: Deferred; or continued? Mr. Plummer: Let me ask the reason on 72? Mayor Suarezi We specified what to do with it. Mr. Dawkins: Continued. Mayor Suarez: Commissioner Plummer. Mr. Plummer: No I'm just asking, Commissioner Dawkins wants it deferred.` For reason, the deferral? Mr. Dawkins: -i deferred pit this morning because I did not have enough time to study the recommendations and we are going,to go. Mayor Suarez:.'Oh', we' are going to have a'staff workshop next Thursday at:9:-00 1 a.m. 4 : Mr. Plummer: 'Oh this:. item? Mayor Suarez Right, so that our staff can take input and. :make recommendations to us. Hopefully they can maybe..'. because, are there.a lot of conflicting -,applications for... s Mr. Castaneda: This'is'not part of the... '- Mr`. Plummer:This is not Capital Improvements now, that is why I am asking _ Mr.' Dawkins: No, no, no, it is the whol$ C.U. allocation isn't it? ' `Mr. Castaneda: No. ® r Mr. Da4k iris v How you are going to... they won't need all the money?. Mr Castaneda:` No, no, this'is a float... M ` Mayor Suarez: What'. 727 f Mr, Castanedas ' The ''money is guaranteed = by a letter of'::"credit, :5there its ao> "J risk for ahe City and='so forth Ltk Mayor Suarezi 'Oh; this is,, not a limited amount. This 3s specific applicat#pn under a fund that you just applied for? s {�' Plummer: Yes g5 T ! x 7.7 i:.S r as �`.' 'i Mayor Suarex. OK. •'Does't4nybody have any,'problem with 727, Mko. Kennedy: -No. .F 11 -yy 0A cx tY �i �t GPI fib. . r -DAsi- 7 1 J y, tfit Mayon Suarta: OK, move it, somebody. Mr. Plummer: Move it. Mrs. kennedy: Second. Mayor Suarez: Call the roll. I see Richard Weise nodding his head. Mr. Dawkins: Oh, this for the schools, yes, OK. The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved its adoption: j -f . RESOLUTION NO. 89-371 _f — A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO SUBMIT AN AMENDMENT .TO THE APPROVED FOURTEENTH (14TH) YEAR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT (CDBG) PROGRAM FINAL STATEMENT TO THE-U.S.. DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT (HUD) TO REFLECT AN ALLOCATION OF FUNDS IN THE AMOUNT OF $1,500,000 FOR A COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT "FLOAT GRANT" LOAN DURING THE 1989-90 PROGRAM YEAR AND TO: REFLECT A'TECHNICAL INCREASE IN REVENUES BY SAID AMOUNT PLUS INTEREST.ON SAID AMOUNT AT THE RATE OF TWO PERCENT (2%)-. PER YEAR FOR TWO YEARS; FURTHER AUTHORIZING. THE. CITY MANAGER, UPON APPROVAL OF SAID _ AMENDMENT BY HUD, TO BRING BEFORE THE COMMISSION FOR ITS. REVIEW AND APPROVAL ALL AGREEMENTS REQUIRED TO PROVIDE A LOAN TO THE CHAIKEN CORPORATION FOR THE RENOVATION OF A BUILDING AND THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A NEIGHBORHOOD NON-PROFIT VOCATIONAL SCHOOL. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on :file in: the Office'.of the City Clerke) Upon being seconded by Commissioner Kennedy, the resolution was passed "- and adopted.by the following votes - r AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. -Commissioner Rosario'Kennedy Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins Vice,Mayor.Victor.De Yurre Mayor Xavier L. Suarez NOES: None. - j ABSENT: None. , forgot Mayor Suarez:.: See, we almost a workshop on some that... '., Mr. Dawkins: Yes. Mayor. Suarez: You had,a workshop today here. Al cA-flRRTP_htATRtAMM AVWMTR LMVP RPRAM RLf 11TW RTRRPRT,TA RmJ:/Agw ,cTR{LRT Aa. r Mrs. Kennedy: Steoadl Mayor Suarest Cill the roil. The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner De T'urre, vho moved its adoptiont RESOLUTION NO. 89-372 A RESOLUTION CO -DESIGNATING EIGHT AVENUE WEST FROM SOUTHWEST 11TH STREET TO NORTHWEST 4TH STREET, MIAMI, FLORIDA, AS "PEDRO LUIS BOITEL AVENUE"; FURTHER DIRECTING THE CITY CLERK TO TRANSMIT A COPY OF THIS RESOLUTION TO ALL AFFECTED GOVERNMENT AGENCIES. t (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on —! file in the Office of the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the resolution was passed and adopted bythe following vote: AYES:. Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Commissioner Rosario Kennedy Commissioner Miller.J. Dawkins Vice Mayor Victor De Yurre Mayor .Xavier .L. Suarez NOESt None. ABSENT: None. 62. ACCEPT >COMPLETED WORK OF M. VILA AND ;ASSOCIATES,`- INC.: FOR ALLAPATTAH':. HIGHWAY-- IMPROVEMENT -PHASE' II (CIP Project 341118) - Authorizefinal,;; :. payment. Mayor Suarez:--Item-74, completed work,.;accepting... r -x - Mr. Dawkins: Moved it. Mr. Plummer:.; Second.., ;a Mayor Suarez:- Moved,:seconded, call the roll SEEM;I The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Dawkinswho moved its adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 89-373 A RESOLUTION'ACCEPTING THE COMPLETED'WORK OF M VILA".A'' ASSOCIATES,_INC. AT A TOTAL COST OF $1,751,038.77 FOR ALLAPATTAH-�HIGHWAY IMPROVEMENT- PHASE II CIP PROJECT f NO: 341118 AND AUTHORIZING A FINAL; PAYMENT :OF $100 749..77.. ;.(Here follows body" -of 'resolution,..omitted hers:. -and Me,: in the Off ice of the City Clerk.) G Yf, Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the resolut'iaa vas p�tl4tsAd i ��' :. and adopted: by the following votes r ' I —y a j tk g#t t xR t zi l "*"4 Yj�ar•A1Sa'Vt s�.�e'�h.[.,, ""�'�X�d.�W4*{:yL l` „ AUS jlum6rj .ire �iiuriu�ier �to6arib �tennady Comisaioner Miller J. bAwkins vice Mayor victor be Yurre Mayor Xavier L. Suarez The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Kennedy, who Moved its adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 89-378 A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE OF A REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS ON MAY 8, 1980, IN A FORM ACCEPTABLE TO THE CITY ATTORNEY, FOR A UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT PROJECT FOR DEVELOPMENT OF MIXED RESIDENTIAL/COMMERCIAL USES OF A CITY BLOCK NUMBER 43 NORTH LOCATED IN THE SOUTHEAST OVERTOWN/PARK WEST REDEVELOPMENT AREA, BOUNDED BY NE 7TH AND 8TH STREETS, NE 1ST AND NORTH MIAMI AVENUES; SELECTING A CERTIFIED PUBLIC ACCOUNTING FIRM AND. _ APPOINTING MEMBERS TO A SELECTION REVIEW COMMITTEE TO EVALUATE PROPOSALS AND REPORT FINDINGS TO THE CITY MANAGER AS REQUIRED BY CITY OF MIAMI CHARTER SECTION 29-A(c). (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on 4.1 file in the Office of the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote: AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Commissioner Rosario Kennedy Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins Vice Mayor Victor De Yurre Mayor Xavier L. Suarez NOES: None. ABSENT: None. 68. INSTRUCT CITY MANAGER TO PROCEED WITH BIDDING PROCESS AND ISSUANCE OF RFPs FOR OPERATION, MANAGEMENT AND`PROMOTION OF OVERTOWN-SHOPPING.CENTER (OVERTOWN ADVISORY BOARD) (See 1abel-70)'. ------ - Mayor Suarez: Item 83, Overtown Advisory Board. Dr., William Perry, Jr.: Thank you, Bill Perry, 850 'NW 7th>'Street Road, Overtown, Florida.. There are a couple of items incorporated in 83. Thejirst one. deals with the management and operation of Overtown Shopping Center. -For some time we've been working on how we could put together a group to take over, responsibility that we could subcontract with, to manage and operate that shopping center. For your information, very little has been done 'to..'say . knowledge relative to getting the store under way that Howard Gary is proposing to open. We certainly hope that that matter will be expedited, but , _ 1-don't know what expedition means with this group sometimes. Mayor Suarez: Well, I sent.out, or we all sent out memos and we: got 'a report back and it has all the progress that had been made and then it had .a little' v statement at the end,that said, I hope ,this complies -with your request:.,and. the only thing, that was, missing is when are we going to opea. up, Mr. Manager, r -i Overtown.Shopping Center? rfa —a Dr. Perrys Well,":that's really not my... Mayor Suarez: Well, let me just see if I >fr j get an answer, Bill. Dr Pori ys OK. ,ate :. ..: ' Mayor Suarez: because if we don't keep asking every Commissionenig,,,. may the' importanice of it will `not ..sink in. }fow1•close are we,Masagsrr, <r; to opening , it �►p. , t � Mr. r: Here he cQ e y +r } We c. N1r. Idiom The last time 1 heard, roe were very close, we want out and spent it on ansmorgehey basis this week, some more funds that 1 approrred. Mayor Suares: When are we going to open up the... Mr, Ron iiilliamss Mr. Mayor, i got a report that shown that ali of the 4 actions that's required of the City will be completed according to contract commitments that have been made to me, by May 15th, that includes a new awning that we are providing... Mayor Suarez: 'What's left after that to open up the shopping center? Mr. Williams: Then it is the contractor's responsibility to go in there. i have... wi Mayor Suarez: Presumably, if he doesn't open up May 16th and we could go and re -award the bid or... Mr. Williames No, there are some other conditions in the contract. However, I have advised Mr. Gary and I will advise him further, as the improvements continue toward that May 15th date, but our indications and commitments from the contractors show that all of those City required items will be complete by that time. Mayor Suarez: First time I hear a date, that's always a sign of progress. i . Dr. Perry: We keep hearing that one small request is we've trying to get the wall torn down between the mini -substation and Advisory Board office. We've + made that request sometimes simple matter of taking a petition up. 1 Mayor Suarez: Sounds quite simple to me. It's not a structural component, _) I'm sure? 1 Dr. Perry: No. —� Mayor Suarez:; Any problem with that? { Mr. Williams: I°have no problem with it. 'I':ve;talked to a couple of people: regarding it.: The people than I've not talked to and gotten full concurrence on, is the Police Department is occupying the mini -station. I have; been told however, they -have no problem, but:I do want to concur,. with,,. them before It proceed with.that opening. Dr.. Petry: They are .the ones that. are- pushing ;it, see -,because there in,,. one restroom in their. side and there are _several women<that use the 'place,.as well, and they could use a restroom on the other side, so that's the reason they -are' pushing it..very-hard, they got:the people;. that:are.assigned,,there. Mr: Williams: That's Sergeant Taylor? j SEE Dr. Perry: Right. Mr. Williams: No, they are opening between the`two. Dr. Perry: Opening between the two. Mayor`s Suarez: I could think that we could, get;; that:, resolved.:. in . thel, nsxt f l2 : hours or no. y2K 1 Mr. Williams: I.will of course meet with. -the :Police Department right away,,,acd t3,ti• make - sure that the concur with that I don't see that that has been a mmmajor ' T ✓�4 problem;st all Mayor Suarers OK anything -`else, Bill? Dr, #'�r�ys Na, no, what I wanted to 'do fa epe:ak'.more .to `she nam�ag�pmas7t� yard, . operation of` the shopping, center,: We,, the Overtown Advisory Board, i0,'arq" the, <process .`of establishing` an indepeodemlt>`:cotpora on. l`;it � c0M tpgd` 1 Dora, 3 spp, Howard Gary, .Manny. Alonso, Tony Bxommsocm; ` Loomtard .TQrkoi 81p 1 '• o t. Gireer: The,. reason for;' doing that is we want a; grou had has some !s rid "h;;,Kwg "` ° iti operating= and ruani`ag the business, We;�sight hays that capbiity Sit.< ltaard, .but we'd like .to keep . that . kind of, operation away= �'rpmny Ike gi,pr `•� R $15��f. 7 ..t vtl frT3C t�}'}y @ F F i � 7 n � �i Mayor $uare"z: The gist of out question is that we have a shopping center that hasn't been oparated and when we first got elected, Commissioner Kennedy I, had been foreclosed and taken over by court. We had to go into the court, convince the court they couldn't foreclose City property and get it back and then we have been sitting here for three and one-half yeare; trying -to get it reopened and there is a group from the community who wants to operate it and has a few additional knowledgeable people like the ones I heard, who are willing to try to even make it a go to wake a profit out of it, if people that we know and rely on and respect, that sounds like a pretty good idea. Can you do it legally? Mr. Fernandes" No. You can do it if they participate. Mayor Suarea: You wanted to know the gist of my.., that's the gist of our question. Do you want to have a little time to think about how to try to do It? Mr. Fernandez: Well... Mayor Suarez: J.L. Plummer must have something down there somewhere he can pull out, I seen him do it with use permits for... Mr. Fernandez: That is not to say that they could not eventually be the A successful party, but they have to engage with the City through a competitive negotiations process. Mrs. Kennedy: - You know, that's right, I remember from Bayfront Park we did it that way. , Mayor Suarez: Now quickly can we do that? - Dr. Perry: It's my understanding, I got this out of your office that you have _ to go through a process where you make it available to at least two other groups. Mr. Fernandez: 'Correct. Mrs. Kennedy: Right. Mr. Fernandezv That's it. _ a Dr. Perryv Yes, and the Manager can interview them on the telephone: Mr. Fernandez: Hell Bob, whatever the Manager does, that's up to him, he knows:,the Code provisions also... w Mayor Suarez: Mr. Manager,.can we have a motion if;the Commission so desires — that proposes and expedited bidding procedure here? — Mrs. Kennedy: So moved. Mayor Suarez: -_That 'a sounds like a good route. Moved and seconded. Any, ; discussion? Mr. Plummers Terms and conditions to be approved by this Commission. Mrs. Kennedy: Correct. 1 Mayor Suarazt. Yes. Call the roll. r M . Fernandez: So in acting, then your motion is Just to instruct the:Maaa to proceed expeditiously. rt` Mrs. Kennedy: Right. 5 .g -4 Mr. Fe nand F M r eg: Period. ; t� r, Mr. Plummer:..' .Ia a bidding. process". i11..h'tK d"i.'y 4 Mr. Feynsndaz: Ia..the bid through`: a competitive Aeg tiatio;i P px rs r Mayor Suarers Right. Call the poll. 1 ' y�r - ; 7sr •' .y}ysIR r ti ?it t.jy7f i 4 2 yy jaj]jt, 1 i»� e- k 4nr,' f . Mill ,y t r 3 Ma ,a t+l .'" iilia�►a: por the 'roinagement and operation of the shopping center. AfCR'3: Commissioner L, Plummer, Jr. Caftibii6n6r R666rio Kennedy, Comiaatons r Miller J. Dawkins Vice Mayor Victor be Tune Mayor Xavier L. Suarez NOBS: None. ASBFNT: None. COMMENTS -MADE DURING ROLL CALL: Mr. Fernandez: This is requesting, excuse me... Mr. Plummer: For clarification, it's the request to set a date for a public hearing... Mr. Fernandez: Correct. Mr.Plummer: which has to be done, OK. 70. {Continued Discussion): RFPs for OPERATION, MANAGEMENT AND PROMOTION OF OVERTOWN SHOPPING CENTER (See label 68): Mayor Suarez: Bill. Dr. Bill Perry, Jr.: Come back to 83? Mayor.Suarez: We're going to come back. Dr. Perry: What'I'd: like'to,`do, is to... now.that you've accepted, made:.that; motion- and passed it, we'll be coming back as a part of our proposal toy the :`.. Manager 7 ,for: a'aum' of money, seed -money to get us off the ground with `that corporation relative to promotion and management of that:, shopping center, so,.:` that rills be a part . oV our total package that you will'<receive: -The other item.I have_on the agenda'is incorporated in 83 is a request we have :relativeyl .. ;t to the mini -station that's now located in the shopping center. We' strongly . believe :that that' station should be open `longer than. nti- `? It's only open from, 8:30 in the morning until-. 6:30 :`in they. morning until 5:10;..in the: evening: INAUDIBLE_ BACKGROUND -COMMENTS NOT ENTERED INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD. r. Dr. Perry: ` 9:30 to - 5:30, that's worse.. What: we understand is-: than, the •coos','- that come on the morning.must' go'downtown to:the mein 'station`. for 'roil `"callf pick up their 'cars, come to Overtown, which is quite -a" lose -:of' -time,' "it.'s "a time lapse, in-< all of that, .rather. than report -directly• to the: Overtown station. In addition to them reporting directly to the station, it's our feeling that that they should extend the' hours of operation until 1s3O._1ji,.the.; morning. Wt-have looked •around and it appears; the crime` diminishes area after about 1:00 o'clock in the morning, the, streets are relatively , quiet.; If :we could have enough officers to man that station for .those ;two nr full shifts including an overlapping shift, that comes in there, thatsthe,: request that"we era makiag. We.`discussed this with the Chief sad discussed with the Manager' and at this point- we, brim it -`to r, for 'havin g P B you to-expree�b g."that 'happen. We. -think. that Overtown deservesthat ,kind off; support}E We constantly have the'bickering'in the'community'relative'to outaidsrs coming into "our community to patrol .our community. We think..t] a ins a Kay -',to b�ipp r the -police ° :loser to' the community. >People,"will get to .know them ORa frOt;k hand basis,,;not,just';during daylight hours, but as, wail Ake- evsmiri hourp and �q " we res eGt#u11 5 p y jeque,et .-that . you :would encourage the Manager "aAd the Psil o�q Chief to nova on 'that .item. o e:, ., �'_ :iti ✓a '". � .:r:.,. .r, J � f # ^: t+", ��%' �s`+"# , :�� "�u� 4'. Y . Mr. Plummer:: My undexstanding`was that the "actual mini �t�ttau net Baia¢', maAped ' by PSA 9 M Ilnn Marie Adker: No. i li lifbi� 5^�p'��yx � t Pr. ferry! No. }k. --mop ,: t S , Mr, Plummer: You are actually putting sworn officers in there behind'dtekksi Ms. Adkere That's all ve....(INAUbI111) Dr. Perry: delve asked for PSA's, but we don't have them. Mr. Plummer: Well, I'm asking the question. I hope that we're not hearing. that they're sworn policemen sitting behind a desk. Dr. Perry: No. He. Adker: No, they're patrolmen. Mr. Plummer: Who is actually sitting there manning the mini -station? Lt. Longueira: As far as I know, Commissioner, at this point they are sworn officers. You have to understand that Overtown mini -station concept was different.from all other mini -stations. During the hours of the mini -station, all of the officers that work out of that mini -station supply all the calls for service response to Overtown, OK? In other words, they are not a'normil 40 sectorthatresponds to Overtown. It's the Overtown mini -stations that responded to Overtown. Now, I believe at one point we did have PSA's in there years back, but because we don't have that many at this point, they are not in there,'they are doing other functions, OK? Mr. Plummer: Then how do you justify putting a sworn officer... Ms. Adker: May I explain it? Mr..Plummer: No, let me ask a question. How do you justify'puttng a sworn officer behind a desk? Lt. Longueira: Well, they are manned... Mr. Plummer: 'We need them on the street. s Mrs. Kennedy:� That's what we have been trying not to do for the past three. years, Lt.' Longueira: That's true and when we get more :PSA's that may occur. At fs; this point ,the .option is to close the mini -station,` OK, until we get more r PSA's.',.: Rather .than do that, we're manning it with the sworn officers ° sI've. = got „their letter to the Chief, he's got some comments on here and:``his comment to the' publ is ' service' aide is !no, not nlcw. " When we get more PSA's on board,.; and we staff the essential functions 'like we want to use. to, allow. police officers .to handle calls, that .may `be one`of�'the functions;we`are going SOON to immediately staff to release an officer to'go on the street, but .we don't have -them right now until we start graduating some classes,, 'OK? The `option is i to close the mini -stations because we`don't have the PSA'a to`Out`the.re Ms. Adker: If I could explain how that mini -station came about,'mmaybe you , could understand why it is so unique. =r Lt. Longueira: It is and it's in response... Ms. Adker: Oh, it was brought about through Chief .Harms right ofteri,the" '.'~8 t '83 -.incident and at, ;that 'timi Chief Harms gave us a mini station with`{45 yk . ,uniformed 'officers, 2'isargeanta'snd a lieutenant: that'patrolied "tha dtreet`s' on z� foot. } Lt Longueiira: That': not entirely true, Ms Adker: Whatdo you mean it isn't entirely -true? �' ' tin�1X ' Lt i;o�i iueiraa But opme oU thsm ware .on foot ome were in: cars ` t ca " a r " �i : bQ 13ehA a� shad to'rasppad to ail of Overtown. 4 y That` orae has dwindle¢ o' 1�out7' Ore,AAskant Xps,' the slid. still Nava thss mini police .substation .coacet F4F t ' t 221 A T f• YO prt Perry: Seas at this point what we are asking for is an extend Lou of the — hours: If they are going to extend the hours, ther have to be more offiara -' assigned to the station. you have officers that come on duty, is it around S:g0? Lt. Longueirat 3:30, yes air. . F Dr Parrys An overlapping shift. X Lt. Longueira: But those officers respond to all of Overtown and the downtown area. - It would take a significant number of extra officers to do, to extent the concept that you have in the daytime to the nighttime and at this point, the Police Department can't afford it. Dr. Parry: I think, you know it gets kind of... you know, The Heat currently has... we have no more officers assigned to the Arena, that area, when they have basketball games or whatever, they have there and I would think it would be, you know, be well for the public to have some kind of protection and some kind of patrol in that area beyond the hours that you work now. I don't -know how you do that. If you look at the officers, I know the Chief sent me, I don't have it with me, the assignment of officers that you have downtown, such as at Bayside and the downtown area and it just seems like it's an unusual number of cops assigned to cover those given areas, wherein in Overtown in the evening, we lose the coverage we get because that coverageis expanded 'to — wider areas I understand 40 and 30, I don't know that much about the zones, — but instead of 30, they cover both 40 and 30, is that it? Lt. Longueira: It's probably a split of the two. Dr. Perry: I don't know where the Commissioners stand on that, but I would _ certainly, if you don't have the manpower, I would certainly make the request that as soon as you get the man... Mr. Plummer: Well, let me ask a question,`-. Bill. Joe,; the officer longer required at Tigertail, that was -eliminated. 4r: Lt. Longueira: Yes, sir. Mr. .Plummer: What happened with that officer, not a named officer, but that position?:;. Lt. Longueira: They went back on'the streets, because essentially the officer than did that detail was lost out of the south end ' of the City and it's my _ understanding he went.back to patrol the south end of the City. Mayor:Suarez: Let's see if I can propose something here.` For some time the — Manager, the Chief, I, Commissioner Plummer, have been looking at a lot of 'issues- having .to do -with deployment and -I think maybe a committee that J.L. s can head and I'll participate with him, at least the first meeting, _and ,give-, him some of the ideas that I have picked up from talking to people in the community and take it forward from there, report back to the Commission.'` The Chief is.already beginning to look at the whole deployment scheme which would take advantage of mini -stations. That was the last conversation we had, I was leaving town a week ago and he said I am looking to have. at least 10, you know, much larger presence locations of the Police Department in different.` parts of :the City, mini -stations and substations.and that is the concept we are moving: towards. Why, as. Commissioner.Plummer,was just saying before, -and not on -the record, why we: can't have officers; .that, :are ",sworn :officers 'doing things If thati:_we:rwant them -to'do we have so many that, are doing duties 'l►Q�t t` rattled off.a couple..>of minutes 'ago;' property aoom and.God-.knows _how pany ° f` other-' things: and .cannot have other .people .who are not presently sworn pollee officers you know, doing that is beyond me, and there should be ,.more wvailable r, for the Overtown,"mini-station than what �wa've got now. The Idgewat�sr ,pai:►Yi�r b f,„ station is' ready to go on line; I ;don t. know_; 1f 'it is':on liq�r yst IRAQ, mentioned to them that,,, would' be requesting ,to have only the: hourse wp.+ep 1 SO' In the- morning. aind 6s:00 withoutr permanent"- presence and tn9y a t sae,the7. ��Ai �� be "ioalCisg :for she same 'thing as. they.wiI1- be." n the nor�he�apVj be .in 'Allapattah`, -as ; they will' be ;,,in Little:. Haiti, :.which is rabkiPS f'Q +i,> ? slid perhaps the iGrove, and of -course,' we .have the .twp substatipps }, i City: and "Little Havana; so I think that we have to f inure ,out s warx to " �Pc � toa system where they can report "back, x� ;know, i�►ittal�y you tQ + 4F £,� 4." stations and substations qnd then be deployed f rom tbaxe y pgQle krgt� �t0f ��jry r ; i . r. f TIP _Vz L7 you know, hive a dertain amount of permanence, they 'hive no people in thi c6mminitv right hovt have no idea on 4 day to day basis Who the polite Wit6t it going to be that to going to be patrolling their area, because I requested oing the logo of two areas of the City and found to my dismay, that for tht$6 months the logo are that many different sheets because each day is different. Now, somewhere along the line, somebody forgot about the system of pOrmAb6nCO, in police deployment and I'd like to propose that Commissioner Plummer hoed that committee and report back to this Commission and I will help him got started with the input that I have and ire will take it from theta. Mr. Dawkinse Mr. Mayor. Mayor Suarez: Yes, Commissioner Dawkins. - Mr. Davkiftes Dr. Perry raised a question that puzzles me now. I know we havi 20:.'. we have 25 policemen at Bayside, is that correct,' air? Lt. Longueirat That was the initial proposal to cover everything. I don't believe we're at the strength, because we're short on officers throughout the whole City. Mr. Dawkinst Well, what do you believe we have there, air? Lt. Longueira: I think it will probably be more appropriate to be around 15. You hive to understand...' Mr. Dawkins: 15... Mayor Suarez: Clarify that any one point, we are talking about three officers. at base. M the downtownarea,- every other day somebody at Miami-j)ade Community Col downiow'ni:tilling 'me.;, that' they, hid,a' door kickeid' 4n:!at":'th6ir business;;i: ob ;i., h r o , t j . a- - no , police, to -see t` !done, and: here"',,, Ov6rto_w'jn':.here�- youto you , got - nobody.-, I you c an, adjust ' with peop.e.at B w y,,! can v` F F '4. d.R j �t7i E e Mr, Dawkins: No, don't put that lie out. I did not say that. 1 inh�rer. eondamed you for what you're providing at Bayside. 1 only said that what V& are providing at Bayside, we should provide for taxpayer cititens of thia et unity, that's what i said. W d o_. Coinmiasioner Lt. Longueira: a , . Mr. bawUna3 See, now don't stand up there and tell nobody and having the newspapers saying Miller Dawkins may you all should close Bayside. Lt. Longueira: We do provide, and based on the officers that are assigned to ' the Police Department in the budget, the Chief of Police allocates personnel accordingly. Mayor Suarez: Well, it's not working out the way it should, I'll tell you that. Lt. Longueira: It is not going to work out until we get all of these officers that are in the Academy, out of the Academy and... Mayor Suarez: Or until we change our deployment system. i Lt. Longueira: You still have jobs to do no matter how you change the system. Mr. Dawkins: You see, we up here, Commissioners, are allowing you to tell us' _ that you cannot release a sworn officer because you don't have a PSA and yet . you continually tell me you got to get officers out of the Academy. ,You have, yet to address the issue of increasing the PSA's with which to release the sworn officers. Mr. Plummer: They are working on that issue. . i. Mr. Dawkins: And nobody... I mean, everybody out here should know, we got gugs'who`don't see their children on the Police force for.four and five days, ;I trying;,, to protect this City, see? And after a while they are goingto be burned out and we are not going to have anything, because we keep dragging our., feet.and trying to get replacements for them, telling me that, you ',can't_:get ` i nobody, out of the Academy.° -j Lt. Longueira: Commissioner,"that's not true, we have hired:.: we're'at i,080 —.� officers.. - F ;I Mr. Dawkins: But you hire one and you. lose two. I mean... �,. Lt. ' Longueira: No, no, the attrition rate is low. We're up to 11.080 as of today'.' Another Academy class in a month, we are hoping Another 30. t' Mr. Dawkins: All ri ht now I want you.to give me, three days, OK? " Start V th ",•:` Sunday, Monday and Tuesday, OK? How many officers call"ed in sick on those i; three days? i Lt. Longueira:_ Commissioner,.that_is not a fair question because... Mr. Dawkins: Why isn't it a fair question? ... i k; , f; Lt: Longueira: Because those officers... Dawkinet .,. because.. if you tell me.you got thousand an¢ some p� then of that, whatever is supposed to be on` duty; a on duty, 1 wt. if -ye policemen. who are on light duty or call in •s'ick, "' we'rc `'reduced"i'Ao policemen, sir: Lt.''Longueira: Well,',the light 'duty 'you" can't' h_elp,�� because they` ai g The sick officers remember, it is not just'_wor�C alone, if ;they► work and if` they "work off; duty and✓ they `run 'themselves #'fn therti4und,e Aepartment" checks'' in _the number of hours they work, ,that malt affect tl QK not ,just" the on duty, work, ``they; ;work' off "duty Aawkins' Ali'right. i�t. Lo�ggeira: Ind that's. not a fair questionf►Qu �uaf;4tak{ abs Sjdti► _ 1 - 1f e _z. Mr. Dawkins: lit defense of any great polieamon, there is not one poiioeman -tin by 6pinibviy; on the Miami City Police Department working two jobs because h6 loves and wants to. 96 is working two jobs because he needs to in order to suirport his family, right? tt. Longueira: Yes, sir. Mr. Dawkins: Other than that, he would stay home on his day off and go fishing or play golf. " r' Lt. Longueira: Yes, sir. Mr. Dawkins: OK, thank you. 3 . t Mayor Suarez: OK, Bill summarize, because we've got to get some other items. Dr. Perry: Are you going to summarize? Mayor Suarez: No, no, you summarize whatever your presentation is and then we'll get on with our other items. Do you have anything else to say? Dr. Perry: Yes. Mr. Plummer: Can I ask a question since you appointed me,to a committee? ..' Mayor.Suareza` .Yes, sir. Mr. Plummers Who also is on the committee? me. Dawkins: You. Mr. Plummer: Me, me and me? j; Miyor`'Suarez: No, I'll work with you at the beginning. 'Mr. Plummer. `Like I said, me, me and me! Mr.. Manager, since I've been f . appointed as. the head of this committee, the last of this committee_`and £' `entfrely�this committee, I>would ask you to as soon as possible forward to me.: the ;position that. every sworn officer in the Miami Police..Departmen presently.doing ' Lt. Longueira: Commissioner, we'll do that. One of the things I'd.'like:you to make.aware of what we are doing, is we are evaluating every -position, -sworn And civilian in the Department and the justification for their. job. at 'this' point. Mr. Plummer: I am asking. for it as it is today, thWs all. }; Lt. Longueira: OK, yes, air. Dr. Perry: I'm sure. that Commissioner Plummer..is,going -to-,:"comew back real .' quick with a recommendation, but this... ' Mayor Suarezi `As 'quick aswe can, Bill.':,S ,r, Dr. Perry:. Yes'# just''in-closing-though,-I. hope you keep getting the message 3�n that- you can't compare Overtown with' the rest of the. community,; Ovestow�i` he:s, 3k'` ' been'shortchanged so`much.-until.-it !s-time,.to overcompensate fo= the treatment { and neglect' that Ov0rtown has`' received, :so .consequently when you begun tpf j? compare Overtown with others areas of this community.:it .is unfair cpp:par$o, because no .'other. area; -in Miami °has = received . the: kind°::.of negIoot . the spas ,received. The Kco:n:nent .on the cops, oyou know, the Panel . �AIXOOV that `many Afrioan" American cops are dismissed for simple Charges. Ia kpQ�v xlio fellows that .were dismissed, .you 'know, for, some th+tt , wap `ellucl�t'�� i outrageous to me. They were never given', any:. consideration Oe'Ye'rh4�i come ;before the 'Panel; talking how they were ,dismissed, from` flenq,{, f'`; think you n�aad to .take a look at that as `'you beiti to E :1Qa1c at'= tta?i j. l�appang fin' tha" Police. Department. The 4vsr+e»ompeeatioa kind .+�=rtn:,t w l intereetint the action you ;took today' on:.;t 'e Pe.it6imi.ng ,Arts Pa pot X IV A? = _ be wiJ:ltns to at .my`. fast gent, z dom:'t have maai', that t ` Center wil i ;get ..pff :the grs�und 6ef4ra; enytin hepps�is ink+ at ' a imply ask other items you know, n o pf4i that you give us the same kind of priority that you give these that happen to be your pet items in this community.. ale deserve,_ less. Mayor Suares: Mr. Manager, Yid like to have for all the Commissioners by the and .of the week on the comment that Bill made and other people have made, a report on the circumstances that lead to the suspension of Sgt. Gentry and Officer Williams, I guess it is. Is that who you are referring to? Dr. Perry: Yes, and Lattimore, and Lattimore. Mayor Suarett And Lattimore too. Lieutenant, make sure we get that, please." I've notten a verbal retiort. but I'd like a written. AYESs Coraissioner Ji L. Plummer, Jr. CoMissioner Rbsario Kennedy Comissioner.Miller J. Dawkins Vice Mayor Victor De Yurre Mayor Xavier L. Suarez NbEss None. ABSENT: None. _____-_--i`r.ii-----fir.-----------_-M__-________ _ 72. A) UNSAFE STRUCTURES - Instruct Manager to have area of NW 56th Street a. to NW 58th Street and NW 6th Place and 6th Court inspected for unsafe structures - Enforce existing procedures and fines. B) SEND: GOOD WISHES FOR A SPEEDY RECOVERY TO LESLIE PANTIN, SR. Mrs. Kennedy:. I have a .real fast pocket item. Mrs. Wells owns the_ Afro. -In Books and Things;,located at 5575 NW 7th Avenue. She has called us many times; sent us ,videos.. There,.are lot.of abandoned buildings near her business. They, have ,been reported, some of them. have been demolished, othere.have.not, 'so I trove to make sure that ail structures within the area of NW 56th Street to NO 58th Street and NW 6th Place and 6th Court are thoroughly inspected and apply, therecentlyenacted ordinance, where we can fine $250 per day the owners. Mr. Plummers That's a good idea, I'll second the motion. Mayor:Suarez: Moved and seconded. Any discussion?_., Mr. -Dawkins: .Under discussion. Mayor Suarez: Commissioner Dawkins. Mr. Dawkins:_ I'iiave.already scheduled a hearing on the 27th to. come down and, discuss_the same.thing,,pushing;the,m down and'how we.,are going. to redevelop: it } and put affordable housing in there and here's ..a copy of the `memo :"I' sent'7 to each of you, which says, please .schedule a personal''appearance-.'itemIon April > 27, 1989 Commission meeting agenda. for Mrs,. jM. Athal'ie Range to::discuss 5 a affordable :rental housing for the' same .area whichCommissioner,Kennedy,`is kY: saying .we need to wipe out and destroy. As she said, it isIF horribleand.it:is unsafe and this is the status of what's been done at 5620NW 6th Court? :That's:,the.. final notice was sent to the .owner. 5621, NW'61st: Place, .March 14th, it .went out for bids to demolish itz'5628 NW 6th Court', March 14th` it f i f, went out for bid; 5629 NW 6th Avenue, out for bid now, demolition can take i; place,once bid has been awarded;,,and 5625 NW,6th Court, :final notice sent'to owner; and,, the final notice was sent to 5652; 5636, 5671, 5702, ` 5712A; ;_the final notice was sent to those owners; 5618, 5616, 18, 22 and'24, final notice was sent' to the owner; and 5711 NW 6th-Place,'the'final notice was.sent to the owner;. so therefore on the 27th''we are going to bring some, people down here Kennedy again 'and like, Commissioner y said,, we are going-. to 'clean, that area :`up. I've walked'.through -there, Ursula and I'have..seen it,',and like-gou seq, it is horrible and it's really,a chance for us.:.to hale a great,fire,;:because,if one ®. of those things gets on Iire, the. whole four. blocks will go'.up. Y ` Mrs: Kennedgs I went there on my lunch hour today and it is really horrendous,._so let's apply.,.. Mr' Plummery Are these the, ones along side the expressway? Ms. Ursula Weliss Yes•: p is r� j Mr• Plummer: < !�hpt's. the last place,'I went on: a sting '.operation• They�A►re,z a great crack, hPuseq • r St r �I{,a. Kennedy Let's apply 'the fines and the Code Eaforcertiant f iaea aad4w4�i head with • it'•. '.o�„r"$itx1 } Mayor guarezv $hate your. name for the record, f tt --_-- Mi, Vellst Ursula Vella. Mr. Davkinsi Address, Mrs. Valle. Ms. Vells: 901 NW 41 Street, etc. etc. I just want to say one thing, thank you very much for hearing me and for you know, activating this situation. If I can be of any help as a catalyst in any way, I will be there, you only have to call me. The only other thing I want to say is this, we are being k ockin us off like flies. They've sacrif Lead in that area. They are Just n g stolen my car twice. They ripped off all the copper piping off the building, people can't get any hot water. Six businesses have closed, so pleaset Thank you. Mayor Suarez: Mr. Johnakin, quick. _ Mr. T. Johnakin: T Johnakin, 1345 NW 51 Street. First I'd like to say, the reason I want to may something here, I want to say that these are some of my,members that I didn't know were going to be here today and I want them to know, Commissioner Dawkins, Mr. Mayor, Commissioner Kennedy, Mr. Manager, that I am doing my job out there, that I had each of you out there in these homes and I'm reporting these places. I am doing everything I possibly can and I, want them to know that, that's why I want to get up here and say it. I don't want them to think that I wasn't doing what I was going to be doing, so Commissioner Dawkins was out there today and tore one of the crack houses down which was a problem to him, I believe... Mayor Suarez: But we are not going to increase your pay. Mr. Johnakin: I appreciate that. — Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I think this Commission should express' best wishes for a speedy recovery to Mr. Leslie Pantin, Sr., who had a heart attack and is in.Mercy Hospital:and I would so move that we send that in whatever-formaL-way. we do for best and full recovery. I so move. Mrs. Kennedy: Second. Ms. Hirai: Excuse me, Mr. Mayor, we have a motion on the .floor,, I'would'`like to 'call` the roll. Mrs. Kennedy- Well, we have a motion on the floor. Mr: Plummer: I'm sorry. r Mayor Suarez: Call the roll on the priormotion and then we will` call`the roll on Leslie Pantin. The' following motion was introduced by Commissioner Kennedy, who moved its adoption: MOTION NO.'89-382 M� ' A MOTION INSTRUCTING THE CITY MANAGER TO HAVE THE AREA OF N.W. 56 STREET TO N.W. 58 STREET AND N.W. 6 PLACE AND 6'COURT THOROUGHLY INSPECTED FOR UNSAFE STRUCTURES AND ENFORCE THE APPROPRIATE PROCEDURES AND FINES TO THE`OWNERS'OF UNSAFE PROPERTY. ti Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the motion was: passed_- adopted by the following vote: r � 'AYES':Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.,� Commissioner Rosario`Kannedy >ar Commissioner Miiler J. Dawkins nor itt Vice mayor.• Victor Do'Turre Mayor Xavier L. Suarez y � 4 NOES r None 4 T f i f N4 g+Kjfi,. ABSENT one; vy x t r' � F'�F $`r � 53jY E ��#�� yea } V �' • °', S Mayor Suaressiil the roil on the motion to send our bast wishes for e. a aedy re6overy'to Lee'Pantin, Sr. The foiloMing resolution vas introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who Y. moved its adoption:' RESOLUTION No. 84-383 y A RESOLUTION EXPRESSING THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION'$ rx- WISH P'bR A SPEEDY RECOVERY BY LESLIE PANTIN, SR. FROM Ex HIS RECENT HEART ATTACK. rt F (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and one file in the Office of the City Clerk.) Vpon being seconded by Commissioner Kennedy, the resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote: }� '. . AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Commissioner Rosario Kennedy "{ Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins «4, i Vice Mayor Victor De Yurre t_ i Mayor Xavier L. Suarez E a $' NOES: None. ABSENT: None: 71 y3. DISCUSSIONS PERSONAL APPEARANCE BY REPRESENTATIVES OF CONCERNED. BLACK CITIZENS OF GREATER MIAMIK. -- _---------------�____-__--_--__------- -- --- _-. __k. - -_--- IT - Mayor Suarez: Lori,` 84. �ls: Lori'Weldone Commissioners, Lori Weldon, 160 NW 44th Street, representing Concerned Black Citizens of Miami. I'm also president and chairperson of ;Dade County Section of: National''Council of Negro Woman.'` The group presently engaged in showing support forthe12.year old girl in Broward County that is - being tried,as an,: -adult:, so therefore we sent ' rep resentatives.. Reverend'Dunn � had°..to leave, he had &,banquet, but`I will be discussing with. him tomorrow on n� .` air your responses. If you remember, at a Commission meeting.vre came down s force and there were several items we had of concern. We 'said that ,in 30 days �h we would be back.for a response and here we are.' I would `beg'gour'indulgencek ' and patience, because I do want to write your responses down so I'don't suffer r from selective memory process in. the morning and give a correct report as to ' ® your response. �x } Mayor Suarez: OK, that's not the procedure we''are'going to•follow You can. make your presentation, we will listen to it, and whatever... ti 4 i Ms. Weldon: No, I'm going to make my presentation and while you are writiag,, �u I'm just going' to.. �r `__ t' r Mayor'Suarez: Whatever Commissioner... let me +` Ms. Weldon: OK. �~£ Mayor. Suarez: Let me finish. Whatever Commissioner wants to aAsWdr;,wi1]',h . dnswer. At#d then you canewrite down whatever ;:you svaut, ;'if you wants '+oa'your x _ 1 own time and we'`li move on to'. this next item, so'mak6-your presentation. �ls, Weldon`s `OK, fine A11 rights . and l`the first .concern we:`had ti�ae{g]e° brutality against blacks.;; It: stated we .qupport good law, eaf4xaamont, ,bPtM,�> = pare or about tie number "of sworn black o#fivers la •`thekCitY Q l i � general x and Overtowss' apeaifically:'.'` We waute ! to _know; has the r bp+a fir' , ad usmaues made in These two. sactors as of thi$ point inY time?, 4�SsAr�od�. ':stigle mamba:` distriot elaotions, 'Wet wanted to know; wo k►c�wbt�►ae=�� fors vorksi ops, we` need staff 1,£or these worRahopa ` t at�r as �rs�i tg: laAmbe'r diitxiatiiug to� the 'publ We .need.°:i�Xi I .� Mayor Suareet iie may:need a lot leis then that, Lori. The City Attorney has. just tb muniCited with us on the formal proposal that will include the sets nf. hearings which will begin on which date? Mr. Fernandezt April 21th you have that as a formal item for you then to set up specific dates. Mayor Suarezi And by the way, he has been a lot more direct in handling that than the County, I might add, because he is already talking in terms of the very basic parameters of how many districts and if there is going to be any.*t large or not, and than pretty soon after that, hopefully we will get into the boundaries of those districts, all in time for the matter to be on the ballot in November as promised. Ms. Weldon: OK, we want to know the... Mayor Suarez: This is not to imply that we don't have an answer to your first question, but it is not one that is susceptible to a quick answer. We may have to take a little more time. Ms, Weldon: We want to know what the deadline was for being on the ballot, but that would be addressed on the 27th. Mayor Suarez: Yes, he's got that, he's got that in there. Mr. Plummer: That's easy, 45 days prior to election. r Mayor Suarez: No, no. What is the deadline? Mr. Plummer: Forty-five days, isn't it? Mayor Suarez: No, no. Mr. Fernandez: No; this City Commission has to decideonthe language will be'on`the ballot no more than 120 days before the election date. Mayor 'Suarez: No less than 120 days. Mr. Plummer: I'think you .are wrong, I think it is a lot less than that. Mr. Fernandez: You have to make 'a:decision within 120 days and no ess -than 45 days from the date of the election:' Mr. Plummer:. Oh yes, that's.. yes. Mayor Suarez: So it is no more than 120 days then, and no less than 45, yes Mr. Fernandez: Sixty, not 45, sixty. Mayor Suarez: Anyhow, we are going to ,do it within the period in question. Mr. `Plummer: In the time frame. 1 _ Ms. Hirai: Sixty,'sir. Ms:. Weldon: Fine. OK; in this, we are requesting a strong Mayor to be elected at large, along with the single member districts. Mayor Suarez: That was not'contained in the prior testimony that you gayer' fire Ms.''Weldon: ` I did not"address singly member districts so - really cannot, i; the ,top of .my head state that was not. The, next economic equity, twe'd "the Model' Cities' loan program revitalized. We .woui ],ikp The Miast3.a&;'A�} The' Miami Arena,- whichever: entity is really responsible, to genarayte.., mnq`^�°* .t�7. r J tti l fi I Mayor `Suarez: Oh' on the #irst of those, two, let me', tell yoµ : x J f ond down -the eastern-soabooxd a�►d have:appllet for every possible loam �y°M �r t� g.._: out cf Tallahassee and the Federal government. Hopefullywell' be e►epg`pr' ` effects of those iobkying afforta `by, avery.';Coma►ssioncr sittlag t�exs.{toc t. j funds in some cases -that have beenn, .Lhet the City has; ors, $}� o#p�5,x� j; aimply' match up ageiust funds obtaioed by otha groupa��sueh ise t �;i' z Process group that t sd. ' t hine Session in Tallahassee hasn"�t endede,etc,, applied Wethe Legislative for every possible thing in sight and the same in Washington, D.C. Me. Weldon: OK, your applications, when will they be decided upon?- as there a date that you would expect to... Mayor Suarez: Well yes, the ones in the State will all be done by June .and the Federal government, I can't give you a date, but yes, if we receive them, will be quickly as we can get it. By the way, the matching local,_ Private _ funds are very important to anything like a MBSBIC, so it is very important that in the case of the Planned Process group, $500,000 as proposed be obtained from private contributions. That typically matches on a four to one basic, so... Me. Weldon: OK, we would like, as I was saying, The Miami Heat, The -Miami Arena,. whichever entity is responsible to generate funding in Overtown and _ work with the Overtown Advisory Board to do so. We feel that they are capitalizing, on property ;in Overtown, they should generate economics within Overtown in jobs. Mr. Plummer: I thought you were dealing direct with them? Ms. Weldon: That I was dealing direct with them? Mr. Plummer: That the community, Overtown Board was dealing direct with them. Ms. Weldon: OK, are they being receptive? Mr. Plummer: I can't answer... Dr. Bill Perry, Jr.: I haven't heard a word from anyone on Ths.Heat yet.. Ms. Weldon: OK. All. right -fine, well we would like Commission input -into that process. Mr. Plummer,: You'd like what? zj Ms. Weldon: Commission input. Mayor Suarez: I've tried, as I -mentioned to Bill the, last time he was here.. Ican't report any_real progress on that, but I tried:and,I:guessthe .rest;.pf us have tried too. We'll keep trying., - a Dr. Perry: .Well, we've -got the All Star, game .next year.-. That's,a little different.. - Mayor Suarez: Please, ,Bill. Complete your presentation, we've got many other SEE s items. t Me. Weldon: We have noticed lack of black laborers on construction work 0 - y ® sites#.; especially in the black areas.: Sven if these ;are:;.private ventures, we'.re _sure ,that they have come to the City for something in the, form %of support or,,contracts, therefore we would like you to invoke the minority participation rule and make sure that the minorities are represented in the numbers,:in which -.they are supposed to be. rh u�3 Mayor Suarez: Two of us, of the f ive us, by the way, were present at the, school board hearings;on..-their minority procurement ,ordinance „being.;,reviev x{ and they've ,kept .that,, in .place .and .let's: hope that we'. can :keep ; ouxs : in Pacp against possible judicial challenges. try= = $ 4 x Ms Weldon: OK, as. far as,economic equity goes,:-we..still have . .� display, Bayfront' and Bo aid �� a. We: would .like. to.: -know, what � are, .ro ject proposed < and those;, amounts. of .,endingfrom, $OOQ,,OQ P,fQt��, Qz,, tentative one hundred and sixty-six if I'm' correct, on -the figures,'hat wars s given today for the tentative symphony hall and. Hagar Suarez: Ttie City hasn14 't. ils. Weldon: I know you. haven't: put any. funding . in -to : that, but I .,mot►, 3,JYw `. saying if you are mulling over one hundred .end sxty�sev�t} t a f guarantee you.. I'd like you to mull over... mayor guaraz: ... that if we get involved in that, there will minority participation rules. Ms. iieldon: OK, now moving to sensitivity towards blacks by City officials and department heads, this one was... OK, I'm going to be blunt, Coihmittl6nsr I.L. Plummer, do you have any intention of hiring any minority representation In your office? Mayor Suarez: Yes, that's... Mr. Plummer: I can answer that, Mr. Mayor. The one thing that I tell you W that's right off the bat and I put this and I'm glad you asked the question, the one thing that this Commissioner will never stand for is extortion and i feel that there was a means of extortion in that when it came up before this Commission before. It wasn't ironic that two hours prior to ,this letter which In circulated that my office received a call stating that I was going to'hire a black in my office and recommended a name. Now, that's just not ironic, that's what happened. Ms. Weldon: Excuse me, what.... Mr. Plummer: Let "me finish, please. Ms. Weldon: OK. Mr. Plummer: The next day I got a resume of the same individual wanting a job. This Commissioner will.never, stand for extortion. Now, to answer, your question, I have .not hired .anyone in"my office, for over.ten years because I' don't -feel the: need, for -.any.. additional staff. At such:'time, if I need. additional',staff,.the,answer is;yes minority participation will'be uppermost in my.mind. Ms. Weldon: OK, prior to. the., letter you are saying that I gave to your, officer Mr. Plummer: I'm saying that prior 'to "the letter which you gave to:my'.offI a ' r indicating that Commissioner Plummer did not have a minority, or excuse me, a _ black,' because'I'do have a minority, I guess two. minorities, one is. Latin"and -; 3 one is:_ they. are both women. That in .fact, two hours before that letter was h circulated `here at. City Nall, fay' office received a`call`indicating that 'I~was goitig'tohire a black. We don't know where it came from, but it recommended a name.. The next morning the resume of that same individual came to my- ;office. Me., Weldon: Commissioner.. SOON ; Mr. Plummer. No, no,,not floating in the mail, it was hand delivered. Ms. Weldon: Commissioner. Plummer, I"want to assure you that .I had no. knowledge of that and I gave you``"that letter and I was here from'9:00 o'clock::' that morning... Mr. 'Plummer: Then how did this individual know that that subject; was.. ever , going' to be broached? = Mr. .Weldon:• Commissioner Plummer,; I had a letter, from 9{00 a.m. iu }a, morning I was in'Commission chambers. I held on to them, until'`;i had`a chance to give them to you. Now, ; as far as how did you receive the letter`, know..: We had . had meetings and meetings discussing these items. than going ;to bring up before 'you. If it leaked out of '.those meetiings , x ce„Qt'� �'' Ffi u}, Day but I assure ou,I; had no communication wfth anyone, Ze ardin t la a �` y► Y Y, 8 S► Those letters were given. .to me` the 'pr�Yo0,t� " o anyone n youroffice, evening,. lx�',J�L'r'l,�$'y 'EtttlYl M.c► P�,er: Excuse ma, i.oi, `did riot say, you :,were ;the cti�e thatQr "f Q�C? Put �,amebcdYr I an saying, put a' a fall into sy of ce ,two hs�ur p � to ttii$ letter being put forth. Y d, ; y G y�xf¢ s k b4. t 4^ ,1 sy%crM` ` Ms. Weldon* I'm just clarifying. As far as the �group is coacernedi we had oo pant of It, Mayor Suaress New both statement have been made, your statement of ybUt position and his statement on the coincidence of this thing and what one might Infer from that, if anything. Anything else# Lori, because we've got other Items. f Ms. Weldon: Yes, OK, and also on the concerns of insensitivity to blacks, we feel that the housing investigation outcome is a sham. Everyone 'is m6r6 concerned about the disposition of Ms. Sonia Carvers than the position of Ms. Johnnie Barber and Wilma Wilcox. Ms. McMillan would like a response to and action upon her letter that she sent to the City Manager. She is still waiting at this point in time unless since the last time I've spoken with her, which was very recently, you have responded. Mayor Suarers Well, I don't know what the procedure is to respond to a particular letter from a particular employee, but we are very concerned about that department and have instructed... well, we haven't instructed the Manager to do anything, just to move very quickly on whatever he is going to do in - that department. Mr. Plummer: You spoke to it this morning. Ms. Weldon: We are also concerned about her placement in the supervisory position over blacks when it's been proven that she will not be fair in - supervising them. We also would like to know what efforts are presently being done in the Haitian community and that's it. Mayor Suarez: Thank you. Dr. Perry:. Mr. Mayor, just" a quick comment and I'm here to support the sister. I just resent the way she's been handled. I know you've been here a long time and it's late, but I've seen folk come in and spend much more time dealing with Mickey Mouse stuff that you've given greater courtesy to than you've given-.that.sister and I just resent it and want you to know it. " Mr. Mayor:...Thank you for your statement. Ms.: Weldon:. Mr. Perry,thank you, but... Mr. Dawkins: Mr. Mayor. n, Mayor:.Suarez: I thought we gave her plenty of time, but that's... everybody is entitled to.their own views.' a _ Mr. Dawkins: Mr. Mayor. Mayor Suarez: Yes, Commissioner Dawkins. .Mr. Dawkins: I move 91. k Ms Weldon: Excuse me, am I going to get a response? I mean... Mayor Suarez: You've made your statement, do you want anything else to say? A because if not, we are moving on to the next item. — Ms. Weldon: Well, I'd like.... Mr. Plummer: Excuse me,.I responded to the area of mine, I think I responded M�f to it. Me. Weldon: Right,it was... Mayor Suarez: I responded' to as many as I could in the amount "of:; time have..that J . Ma. Weldon: OK -all right. All ri ht so ass B g , you are saying that the gthar ites you 'are not going to respond to at this timee , that whave given 7pu and you have ignored us.'' Is that the message T"M to take back?,, NY4%,� a Yt, rfr J `i { 5 p a Vapor Suaret: That's not what live gathered that transpired hera, but you can eotiolude whatever you want: Mr. Plummort No, no, that is not a true statement. The first statement, thi first question, let me just stress that, that's an answer that youtV6 got to get from the Police Chief. Has there been any further deployment of th6 men In the Overtown areat The Chiefs got to answer that. We've just asked the same question of him, so I mean, we can't answer for him, we don't know. - No. Weldon: kJ Commissioner Plummer, you have staff here that you could he a directed to answer this question. You've been doing that... Mr. Plummert We did at the time that this matter was brought up before. We did that. Mayor Suarezt Let me add that the entire matter is... Mr. Plummer: Now, has it been done? We have to wait for an answer. Mayor Suarez: The entire matter is under consideration by the Overtown Panel, the ad hoc panel and now by the newly constituted committee. of this Commission, headed by Commissioner Plummer, so you're more than welcome to t. _I give them additional input on that. I Ms. Weldon: One last statement. Mr. Perry, you're right, but that's OK, we know how to get attention and we will get our attention. 74. DISCUSS AND TEMPORARILY DEFER REQUEST BY MR. C.W. HAINES, JR. TO APPROVE. CREATION OF SPECIAL TAXING DISTRICT FOR GREATER BELLE MEADE AREA TO PROVIDE 25.-HOUR GUARD SERVICE (See label 76). Mayor Suarez: Next item. Mr. Dawkins: 91, I move... `- Mayor Suarez:' What was 91? Mr. Dawkins: I move 91. - Mayor Suarez: `What's 91?Is it non -controversial?' Unidentified Speaker: Yes, sir, yes. - = Mayor Suarez'. what is 91? Mrs. Kennedy: -Mr. Is there anybody here who opposes this item? Plummer; Oh, oh. Mayor Suarez: This is controversial? We should probably get as many as these".. ( controversial... s! Mr. Dawkins: No, no, get to one more item. ,r r Kx", = Mrs. Kennedy: Yes, we only have time for one more. Mayor Suarez: I guess this is the one that involves most of the public xhat's, z Unidentified'' Speakers this' .,is the one. }, 4 N • j T P7 ri4di3'}�t w _- r _ v:s K5-.:dim„ -i4 y 'r � ra r •• t +E�Y}`'�� t Mrs. k*ftnedYs MoVe it... Mr. be Yurres Second. Mrs. Kerinadys ... that we close the streets. Mayor Suarees Moved and seconded, tali the roil. The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Kennedy, who° moved its adoptions RESOLUTION NO. 89-385 A RESOLUTION CONCERNING THE JUNIOR LEAGUE OF GREATER MIAMI, "MIAMI MAGIC" 5-K RUN AND THREE MILT WALK EVENT TO BE CONDUCTED BY THE JUNIOR LEAGUE OF GRATER MIAMI, HEREBY DESIGNATING APRIL 22, 1989 AS ONE OF THE THIRTY (30) DAYS RESERVED FOR USE BY THE CITY PURSUANT TO ORDINANCE NO. 10348 WITHOUT THE USER PAYING THE FEES FOR THE PARK; AUTHORIZING A ONE -DAY PERMIT TO SELL BEER AND WINE IN CONNECTION WITH SAID EVENT SUBJECT TO THE ISSUANCE OF ALL PERMITS REQUIRED BY LAW; FURTHER APPROVING THE PARTIAL USE OF CERTAIN STREETS IN DOWNTOWN MIAMI TO THROUGH VEHICULAR TRAFFIC FOR SAID ORGANIZATION'S PROGRESSIVE DINNER GALA, A FUND RAISING EVENT IN THE EVENING'OF APRIL 22, 1989; SUBJECT TO THE I ISSUANCE OF PERMITS*BY THE DEPARTMENTS OF POLICE AND FIRE, "RESCUE AND INSPECTION SERVICES AND CONDITIONED UPON THE ORGANIZERS PAYING FOR ALL OTHER. COSTS OF CITY SERVICES AND, UPON THE. REQUIREMENT THAT THE CITY WILL BE INSURED AGAINST ANY POTENTIAL LIABILITY. (Here',follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.) Upon being; seconded by Commissioner De Yurre, the resolution was passed . and adopted by the following vote: AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Commissioner Rosario Kennedy Commissioner Miller J.- Dawkins Vice Mayor Victor De Yurr6 Mayor Xavier L. Suarez 3' NOES: None. r. n= y; ABSENT:None'. COMMENTS MADE DURING ROLL CALL: Mr. Plummer: I'll vote for a partial closure. { COMMENTS MADE AFTER ROLL CALLS Mayor Suarez: Bye, that's the best we can do. Go home, ein no more. k: r y� S Y ° '•%fir a yw yl h 1 u ; r?y 7 a} q t t `'`} ...y rr f k st.x Sri- s. t9n� r.{xV'YM'�}'h 1��#',{�. Y.v �a. _:< ,... <... ,;xF, r„_�-.... , +.. x>, .3,. ,,. _rt,!- ..,.,,.._;s:._s 7_...t.....,. .-•1 .1 .-�.+%-_.RL-,.�,.�'.r.�%t,a.,Sr,-;A..er?:;nY^ri?4r".1�"•e 'r',a9.:�ct5 '=i� t 16. (Continued Discussion): DISCUSS AND DEFER PROPOSED CREATION Off'. SPRCIA2+ — TAXING DISTRICT FOR GREATER BELLE MEADE AREA TO PROVIDE 24LRODR GUAttD SERVICE (See -label 14). ,; -+rir�i�r.Ya$ibswiulrrr�wrr�i.rbwrr�.r�aY�rrrYGwrrr.`rr.rrrrrrrrrr�r.r.rr.t��.i.r�r r�+'�'y'. •y}} s.G Mayor Suarez: Item 91. r Mr. Plummerc Excuse me, just for the record, Mr. City Attorney, 91, this City gj Commission is not empowered to create special taxing districts, are we? `? i " Mr. Fernandez: No, of course not, but this is to the Metropolitan Dade i_ County, they are applying. Metro County needs a resolution of this Commission befbre they -can proceed. �. Mr. C. W. Haines: Mr. Mayor, City Commissioners, my name is C. W. Haines, I live at 808 NE 73rd Street, City of Miami, Florida. Joining me for this presentation is Mr. Mariano Ayala and Mrs. Margarite Shearin. First we'd like — to take this opportunity and not so much time to thank you the Miami City Commission for your continued efforts in the northeast section of Miami. We're glad that you've given us barricades, drug sweeps of Biscayne.Boulevard and your renewed effort on our zoning and Code enforcement within our area. —i And most importantly, we are glad for the encouragement you've given us to. protect our neighborhoods. For that reason we are here representing :the , _ Greater, Belle Meade area, not Belle Meade Island and not Belle Meade, as.so often has been confused. We've prepared a visual aid that will identify.- the' — Greater Belle Meade area, as we call it, one neighborhood, which borders;,on the south on HE 72nd Terrace, stretches north to Little River, is bordered on Its western boundary by Biscayne Boulevard, which we are all familiar, and is bordered on the east by Biscayne Bay. We're here because:we..do"not grant a, divided neighborhood as Belle Meade Island proposed to-,this;City Commission,on, March,23, 1989.. A guard house on the bridge to protect 52<exclusive homes -.of — Belle Meade Island, five of which are. for sale .at -this .very moment,:_ -,Is detrimental to the 402"homes of the Greater Belle Meade area...,, We represent both sides In this issue, Belle Meade and Belle Meade,.;Island..and because- ofl::, that,`:we, are here to request a resolution that benefits all the -homes, all A02,:. in the GreaterBelle. Meade area, not the 52 homes on`'Belle<: Meade .. Island and,,,. , not the!350. homes in Belle Meade, but all 402 homes in the -Greater Belle Meade _ area .which .we've highlighted here 'for you.: Belle Meade:Island':does:not-'Reed. protection from Belle Meade. It is a residential community -of 350', omes.that,.:' borders next to''S2 homes. To say that it `needs protection:from Belle: Meade is,:- r almost an- insult to our. intelligence. Furthermore; �Be1le;.Meade?;does ,need:. - protection from 'Biscayne Boulevard and the crime .that it, creates.-: We. need some>relief. We need; relief from drive-in drug traffic, we'need- relief _from.;; muggings,, whereby residents are followed by vehicles into the neighborhood and r are attacked upon exiting their.vehicles:to:enter their homes.--. We need relief; y o from auto thefts, we need relief from burglaries where :autos, are .used .as an ® `escape, and we need relief from prostitutes using our neighborhoods as a: place of business. The residents of Belle Meade,.the Greater •'Belle. Meade. area, believe the people that have signed this petition, =that :the construction 'of -a . guard house at' the entrance to Belle Meade. at NE . 76.th Street, east' of • N,E 6th Court can help- if not reduce. this eliminate, problem of crime. that mentioned above. Mr."'Plummer: Were you here for the discussion this morning? Mr. Haines:= We're aware of that ordinance,. sir,,. yes..: <. Mr. Plummer:;' But, you -.are also aware that. in .no way will ahat.?guard;t�ouse,be 3y: ;empowered to stop=anyone? 4 x Mr: HAInesr Very' fully,-sir,.very fully. 4. Mr Plummers xtb .. ,.. - : �'' � A E •L A r; 4 . Y` ji; � 34� ' �'Ti1 , Y RZ'•}}Y { mayor.,Suarez : You,: knowas refashioned ar ,modified,. it is not 41 Yoh;L an obstruction °,in .any; tray. = It 'is something that jf eve had.,the �epac�;�kOJta4��tt� ��7 �r�� ! a.'gtaard house, .it'8 the least we,;coyld do for a,;coMmuait�r r is a self contained •island •anyhow. I don: t see ho�v it rally faec tw4uld an body It won "t slow down traffic into, it. i 238 Fh§s�','Sc"'+;"�,�•d t _ t� s .i •. .. . .. .s .. < ., .. ,Y ..!..d'^. .r .,_6.:s�.s.t Mn Maines: We its not proposing to slow down the traffic, but we ate proposing that we be allowed to monitor that traffic, the same as Bella Meade Island hat been granted in an earlier resolution. To show our support for,our request, we've provided each of the Commissioners and yourself, Mr. Mayor, with a package that contains a petition. This petition contains 181 signatures from the resident homeowners' of the Greater Belle Meade area: Included in this total of 181 signatures are 30 signatures from residents of Belle Meade Island. We obtained these signatures in just a little over six weeks, whereas Belle Meade Island has been toying with this subject since 1982. I think that our support is shown by that petition. Furthermore we we enclosed a letter of endorsement from the Belle Meade Homeowners'. Association, which has fully supported our request, and finally, we have enclosed a letter from the Metropolitan Dade County Public Works Department, acknowledging our petition as valid and containing an excess of the required number of signatures to proceed at the County level. Mayor Suarez: This illustration carries with it already the problem of... Mr. Haines: That was for illustrational purposes only, just to get your attention. Mayor Suarez: OK, the next time you want to get our attention, leave out the arm that stops traffic. Mr. Haines: Yes, sir, we are definitely... we'd like to amend the draft resolution: that we had included in there, therefore we are respectfully here before you requesting a resolution authorizing, but not requiring, as a, condition of approval, the following: Creation of a security guard district and special assessment levy to support ,this service, construction of a, concrete block structure, a guard house within the public right-of-way at NE - 76th Street, east of NE 6th Court and the construction of a fence within the public right-of-way along NE 6th Court between NE 72nd Terrace to NE 77th —' Street. With this. resolution we will return to Metropolitan Dade County" Public Works Department_ so that they, may complete their preliminary: engineering studies and hold the necessary public hearings to disseminate ?: t factual information to the public that the public is interested in obtaining. Thereafter, Metropolitan. Dade. County, at no cost; to the City will hold a special district election for all of the registered voters within the Greater, Belle Meade area, which includes Belle Meade Island and _Beile.;-Meade to, Y* determine; if, the residents of this area in favor.: of the creation -;a. -` .are .of special taxing district to provide the services.. we've described.• Without -this;.'' f; resolution, the -same resolution City Commission granted to Belle Monde t =1 .the Island.- via Resolution 89-289 on March 23, 1989, Greater Belle Meade will become a very divided and split community at the expense of the 352 homes in, —' Belle Meade. Thank 4" you. � =' Mayor Suarez: I have a feeling from hearing from staff that .we would have a z problem with the gate, obviously,. and the fence. The rest of what you are suggesting, I don't have any problem with it, I don't know about the rest of the Commission. Anything you do to make the area look like a,. self -contained ' neighborhood, we are doing that throughout, -the City of Miami, in: 4py neighborhoods that we can do it, you know. b avers b landsca in b : 8 Y Y. pavers, y P B,: y , anything that gives the character of the neighborhood, by signage, that 'can f` only help the community, but it doesn't have the effect of keeping people out who have a right to.go through it. , Mr. Haines: , Right, , Mr. ;Mayor, we ,are not advocating that,.,wa _ran keep peopl¢ 4 out...; Our -desire ,is to be able, to monitor the- flowof., the tr.affic,.,into, our i neighborhood, The resolution, that Metropolitan Dade,:Count y, Public Works 2{~ Department asked us to come back and obtain from you indicates that ;it's :hots V% required and we..are aware of your concerns via the earlier resolution:. 431z . % , Mayor: Suarez : 'And by the way, the monitoring is ' going to have to :be alpags py�� visual monitoring, not electronic, that I am aware of. ..There is no way't0 `avpm Instal l .that ,..o.to,mprove,that, I don't thlnk the Commssioz► vaato to 77 get involved in that, and it is going to have to be visual monit4a '1ag and { ; :the .cara- go by. ; in the:. normal speed, obviously ,a stop; ;sign helPis, tc dtop, ;you ' �j know, any automobile, because if they don't stop, then they've violated traffic -low, and you con obviously call in Mad ;report :,theta � y�) Mr. Haines: Right, we`ve very much in agreement with that, where all we'woul6 request is a stop sign in the hope that a guard could record a vehicle tag number. Furthermore, the concept of the fence, and bearing in mind the Brat reading of the ordinance today, and your earlier resolution was granted, ware not trying to deny any type of pedestrian or vehicular assess, we are only trying to monitor its flow, and in regards to the fence, out only proposal ,y would be that it would have breaks at various points throughout, so that people could come and go through there as they please, maybe with some sort of deterrent to prevent the bicycle and a car from driving through it. s Mayor Suarez: Well, I was speaking for myself when I said that, you know about the fence, I don't know how the rest of the Commission feels, but I'm not ready to... Mr. Kay: Mr. Mayor, when the resolution 86-291, which allowed the permanent barricades to go up, one of the conditions of the permanent barricades has that they'd be able to provide emergency access at all times, so in other words, this would preclude putting a fence up in the right-of-way across those streets. - Mr. Plummer: He said that they didn't want to preclude cars. Mr. Haines: Again, I don't want to add to the confusion over the fence. Th County requested us to come back and ask for the fence. If we get oure J resolution without the fence, we'll gladly take it. Unidentified Speaker: OK, Mr. Mayor... Mr. Plummer: Well, let me ask you what do you... to have a security guard driving through the area. What are you going to do with this security guard If you form this taxing district? 71 - Mr. Haines: The security guard as we've requested it, is to be stationed in a guard house on NE 76th Street, east of. NE 6th Court and his purpose... I'm t sorry, can you see the blue section up here? OK,. that would be the proposed location. His job... Mr. Plummer: The barricades are already in on the others. Mr. Haines: That's correct and we thank you for the barricades. The j barricades are already in on NE 72nd Terrace''and.NE 73rd, NE 74th, NE;75th`and ° f; NE 77th. So it's a very natural entrance to the neighborhood and quite truthfully, it's the only entrance to the entrance to the neighborhood' at, NE i 76th;Street. ,A # Mr. Dawkins: You know I hate to say this, but I have to say this, .OK? . You. '^ j came down here,we blocked off one, ``two, three, foiir streets, OK. Mr. Plummer: No more, one, two, three, four, five. if Mr. Dawkins: When we blocked them off, you said this is what we want and this will suffice and this will do it, and now you've gotten... and this is Miller; ' Dawkins'`o opinio n, p , you got ,greedy, now you want 'everything closed off, that's '. unfair. That's very unfair, in my opinion, sir. w Mr. Haines: Commissioner Dawkins... Mr. Dawkins: Now you know... no, no,"no, see, that's unfair. See, we''ve already met you more than half way. We've let you close off one, two, threes f� four, five 'streets! And now you`` want'' to.close off the sixth one? S ; r Mr. Haines: Yes, sir, I do: Mr: Dawkins: Why? ykY*, .? Mr. Hainess ` Because, .just .es you... Mr Plummers No you.are notto:.r�' i Y prroposing close it f Mr. Hai No, .I'm not proposing, I'm only paropa$ing that we bq a1lA�tsd put a guard house � there . z4o� 3 F 1- y •• lr1 rt .tf-..t?i=..t '� � 1 '�n �,,yr/ �`y�^5. c r ter. Dawkins That's closing it. You want to put the guard house its the middle of the 'street. Me. Haineat Let me... may I please add that not only did Belle. Meade _b6fi6tit tram the barritades, but it's our belief that Belle Needs Island benefited from the barricades. 'You've also provided via the resolution that � highlighted, Belle Meade island with the ability to put a guard house on the public right-of-way. Mr. Dawkinst Run that by me again now? Mr. Haines: Via the earlier resolution... Mr. Plummert From what I understand, tell me if I'm wrong, you are asking to be allowed to do the same thing there at that gate, that they are doing at the entrance to Belle Meade, which we approved. Mrc' Haines: Yes sir, that is the consideration that we are asking here. Mr. Plummer: Am I right or wrong? Did we not approve that for Belle Meade Island today? No, excuse me, we did not. No, we did not. What we did today was change the ordinance to allow the flexibility of this Commission to do such. Yes, it was prompted by the Belle Meade Island and we said that we would have applications, each application would stand on its own, as to the _t design of the guard house and the things of that nature. i� Mr. Dawkins: So we are saying, are you... I mean, I don't understand. Are _R you saying that instead of having two guard houses, we only have one? Mr. Haines: That's correct. Mr. Plummer: Well, wait a minute, you, are not going to,deny Belle Meads Island•the right to have theirs if they want it. [ INAUDIBLE BACKGROUND.COMMENTS.NOT ENTERED INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD. Mr. Plummer: > Huh, why not? Mr. Haines: If ,this, the County...- Mr.. Dawkins: And that's the second part:of my. 1 -. Mayor Suarez: They really would not interfere at all with what, you are, trying, i :to do at the entrance of Belle Meade to have the same similar thing on Belle r fj Meade Island, are you? s —f Mr. Haines: I have to digress, here a little bit, on, a very pro y —, nature.. Mayor Suarez: That's because you want to tax their:, properties a little more 0, 3 °to build yours. Mr. Haines: No, we are not proposing that at all, in fact it's... Mayor Suarez:, They are.pretty expensive on Be.11e:Meade.Island, you know they: can... a ?; Mr. Haines: In fact,: -it's an equal assessment across the board. L' Mayor Suarez: ",Yes but if: you. leave out their. district-. for ;�.th4ira, tbga g; that's Mr: Haines: Metropolitan Dade County has said they will not pern►ix two„xMr coatiguous� -guard; housa�. `` ��F Mr: Plummer:. Theyzaaid, what?., `,'� Mr Haines. That.;:they will not permit two contiguous guard words, they will not allow a special taxing, =` ;. , Y ,", ., ni =C :' • .• R ..... ,; k ,r[[ sy�> } •Z rg ems. �f •tiL ,.}f YYh Sf'V'Xn lltiyoruarezt First of all, I'm not sure what that h$4 gegndly, .they are not contiguous; so 1�ton't thinly thAt, .. 'a z' AIWUk a' f. ,i 7 RN Mr. Hainest If Salle Meade Island was able to create its own special tming district to provide a guard house somewhere on Belle Mead Island, on the other fide and *a here able, for Belle Meade, it MS 7fith Street to put up a second guard house and create a spatial taxing district, there Mould be in effect, two cobtiguous..; Mayor_Suarets Ware providing a lot of jobs for private guards. ,4 Mr. Haines: Well, we're trying to eliminate that duplication and benefit the ' greatest number of homes, but yes, you are correct: The County... _ Mr. Plummer: They are going to pay for theirs. Well,.phat's the difference ; If you pay for yours. =' Me. Margarita Shearins Please, may I say something? Mayor Suarez: Margarita. Ms. Shearins My name is Margarite Shearin... _ Mr. Plummer: As if we didn't know. !d Ma. Shearin: I live at 1169 Belle Meade Island Drive. !` Mr. ` Plummer: At your age you go from house boats to guard houses. I don't i, know what's` next. j� Ms. Shearin: Now, you're young enough to be.my son,,I mean I'mold anough.to be your mother,, so lets be nice. My husband and I built our home in 1965'at I� that `addressand he died in 1987 and 'I'm 'still living there because I still �. lovethe. area. and I intend to .stay there as long as I can,_.so for 23 years; I know about the projects that have been going on in Belle -Meade and Belle Meade ' Island. Before there ever was.a Belle.Meade.Island Homeowners' Association, I worked for. the Greater Belle `Meade Homeownere' Association and we' did4manq _k good things together., My husband and I, when the subject of the guard house { first in 1982 we felt if there was such a j p , guard house it should be to benefit the :whole area. We didn't like to see the neighborhood divided. We didn't-'1 ke`to lose the low`P rofile and it was.very expensive 'so whenever ;it came up,: I've been against it, because I waited for the ,Greater Belle. area to get this for .themselves. What good does, it do, to protect `the �isl`and, { if; the have. to come through that `whole area of -Belle` Meade .to jr y B get to At . - have have felt from the very beginning and,I've got. to be strong. about -this because Mr —�I MayorSuarez:Well,, to the `extent that a guard house provides protection at the entrance' to the Greater Belle Meade area, then two. I; , guard houses will a �I provide double protection for Belle Meade._ —i Ms. Shearin: And double taxes. If they are willing to pity for two guard houses perhaps that would be it but the Count excuse me the County., i; . P P � y, ►will not allow two guard houses,. (j Mayor Suarez: It sounds like for Belle Meade it will be 'a great imposition, 'you know, to have one little . y , guard house there with one security officer. p,l Ms. ShearinsWell, we are asking for the same thing; you .so quickly gave to _# Belle Meade` Island.. Why, can they have it and. Mayor Suarez We've only passed an ordinance that.allows this to :even be done. We haven .'.t;;gigen it, to anybody. In fact, wit ;tsavon!t even pal s+ ti}e{h 'a� x"Olt ordinances I think we ve only` done first reeding, Mr: Fernandez: But you`; did pass a .resolution lact tisae.'" r Mayor Suargt;: Yea, nt}d I!sa. ready to e48a $ x+�sQlutigz� t }e a ha fo'r` Greater :$e�le', Meader i';ve no Problem with hint. question of psynt ,#sr?�,r" still 'unclear in my 'mind s'��"`' q 4§4ti1 w Mr, RisT�ard Reymonds }- Mr. Mayor, can . I .offer opposiug vieM fr ', > etI bborhood also Mayor Suarez: Which is yours? Mr. Richard Raymond. I'm Belle Meade. My name is Richard Raymond, I live at $19 Ng 72nd Terrace. I was the designer and the chairman of the group that put together the barricades that currently exist there and I am standing here i now in opposition, not to a special taxing district, but for the idea of the guard house. I feel that there are... when we got our barricades in there was some very great feeling among the neighborhood of togetherness, we had approximately 82 percent of the people in the neighborhood that approved it and we felt we had accomplished something good and we are very grateful for what happened. This guard house idea has come... and as you know, it took us many years to get that to be accomplished and much coordination and discussion with the neighborhood. The guard house has come up very rapidly, it has not — been presented fairly to everybody in the neighborhood as far as what is being proposed. As a matter of fact, the fencing of the neighborhood is the first time I've heard about it tonight and we're discussing it. There's some points I wanted to bring up that I have found out in investigations with Dade County, —y and with the City. There has never been, as far as the knowledge I've received from these people, a guard house built in the right-of-way of the — City of Miami. - Mayor Suarez: I did by the way, receive the information ahead of today's meeting, but I have to admit that I have not been able to digest it fully, so 4 if the Commission were to disposed to defer action on this item so we can get _! more input and you could be more familiarized with it, we would, keeping in mind that we have to have a second reading of the ordinance, that allows us _ and anyhow then it doesn't go into effect for I don't know how many days after ' that, I believe 30 days after that, and I guess to then implement a special taxing district to fund one of these is a little more of an additional _ mechanism that it will take a little bit time, of so... i ( Mr. Haines: That's correct. If'I can make one suggestion and one request. -i� Mayor Suarez: Oh, did I describe anything wrong there, Mr. City Attorney? Mr. Fernandez:' What was that? Mayor Suarez: OK. Don, did I say anything wrong? Go ahead, come up to the- mike. - N Mr.. Haines:If I`could make one request here, that maybe we... t� f�l Mayor Suarez: Wait, wait, let me just clarify. Did I state anything there that was not correct? * ` I mean, that's the ' procedure we are going to have to i l# follow anyhow. We need to havea second reading on the ordinance"before we ,- can even` propose this. _i f� �}! Mr. Lewis: No, Mr. Mayor, you signed a tesolution allowing Belle Meade Island their guard house. Mayor Suarez: But there was no ordinance to permit it, so the resolution had ;- no effect. Now, the first reading of the ordinance "has. been passed today,". needs a second reading. It was not an emergency ordinance, was it?. Mr. Fernandez: No, it was not, it was just first reading. Mayor Suarez: So it can't be' implemented. In -the meantime' there'.* is hope, a E glimmer of'hope that both groups will get together and see if'the y can '- agree, I would think. T mean, I..... :. + Mr., Lewis: If I' could make a suggestion, if there would" be any way ;chat % :the �^ City would be able to get' involved" and "help unite ' two communities ,whet ,axe k$' r becoming'somewhat`at'odds over this situatlon when... r ; —i Mayor 'Suarezo ` We had tfietsame situation in Edgewater over the mini atubion� .' They fought and fought and they f inaily agreed on a location. and prow We { erg 'going — - to have a aini-station; you know. ` #` Mr. Low ia: That' a my request. Mayor Suarey: Yea, absolutely, ,you can' count- on 'my ofgicand aiyY o tYi',hse►t� ,{w r ` 3c'� 4 r1G1x A T! i 143 fsia��ar, Mr. Lewis: Perhaps the City could help us... Mr. bawkinsa well, I would love to sit down... Unidentified Female Speaker: Commissioners, may I say something? I'm the president of Belle Meade Island Association. Requested our gate house and we got it. They don't want a gate house...' Mayor Suarez: Mot quite yet. Unidentified Female Speaker: Wait a minute. They are not requesting a gate house for Belle Meade, they are requesting a gate house for tha entire area. Now, we already have... Mayor Suarez: That's why we are talking about trying to±r= et the two groups together to see if there is something that can be worked out. Unidentified Female Speaker: Now, we have already have ours and they want one, we don't object to their getting one on 76th Street, but not instead of ours. In addition to, it would be fine. Mayor Suarez: OK, you just had a first reading of an ordinance that might a - enable you to get yours. t; Unidentified Female Speaker: In addition to is fine. We don't oppose it. We don't oppose. their gate house, we never have, but we don't want them to''opposs ii ours. f Mayor Suarez: Anyhow, as far as getting together, I'll be more than wiling.to meet with the pres'Irident of both associations, see if we can work something out i{ and I'm sure the rest of, the Commission would also. Mr. Mariano Ayala: Mr. Mayor... s }}� der ! (jt Me. Plummer: The way this is going, Mr. Mayor, within a month we are going'to ij have requests for armored cars and alligators ;in the moat. t Mr. Ayala: Mr. Mayor and Commissioners what is... Mayor Suarez: Put your name in the record.Last statement and have make a decision here. we to `. Mr. Ayala: Mariano Ayala, 757 NE 72nd Terrace. What's fundamental' hire`'is that the community stay together. Dade County has told us they Will:not accept two t p p guard house`s. OK, we believe the one on 76 Street will be he- e�.i whole, 'and. . Mayor Suarez: We are not too sure that that's 'correct from Dade County, by x the'way. Mr. Ayala: ... what is important is that the residents... Mayor Suarez: And I'd hate to have a battle over one versus the other on communit versus e. y us the other. We don't need that.. ' Mr -"'Ayala: The residents of Belle Meade Island are quite are of the coat`.:of the guard house at fifty-two and quiter aware of the cost of a guard house at q t J- 1 four hundred. and two and we believe, :and we are confident 'that: -when at `ootnes down to. a vote, when .it comes to referendum, is what we s+ant, is ;that: ".'h i residents.,of Belle Island and Belle Meade will select the'.one on.?6th,Stract N t because of financial reasons, and :that is one of the reasons why. aForeo t �� years Belle Meade Island has. not been abler to produce, the wady that's why we are producing it now.'on 76th Street far the bey fit ofhaXt, ,r`� ve want the Commission to help us with that. i ttA,1f ` Mayor Suarez: This. is basically :the same argument that. we,'vo hear¢ kan�! , understand it. Commissioners, the only thing. �ah;-thin k oi'a action and' hope that we aAV 66me : up with an agr¢e�gent. I _- �} :the hays f,irgt reading o! the` ordinartice and we..a+ill have a >se+�gad retdpgvNQ '� _ 4i'dinpnce. - There 'fie no guarantee that oxQinahae; will qq1 beatwe can dsa tod$y� F,ea9d ta,�►;,4ie��-� _ 7 n '� 4 d`$ �Si `�''•'"` d t t KKrr j� g� rx Y ( 1 Y 77- 1 UV 1 •� x�^-M .k'.i+ h �SrSfik.,.-x r ¢ ��1 l+�r - '-•R -Me. Shearjul May I say something ftbre, please? Mayor Suarez: Wait, I pant to hear from the Commission if that's what th6Y want to do. i. Mr. be Yurras Yes, I'll move to defer. Me. Shearini Would it be possible for this...? l; Mayor Suarezi Margarita, please... Me. Shearin: I'm sorry. d, Mayor Suarez: we've gone through many, many items. It's been a very Yong _ day, 107, that we didn't quite to do all of them. Move to defer, Mr: Vice Mayor. Mr. De Yurre: Yes. Mayor Suarez: Do we have a second? Call the roll. -� MOTION TO DEFER r UPON MOTION DULY MADE BY VICE MAYOR DE YURRE AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER PLUMMER, THIS ITEM WAS DEFERRED IN ORDER THAT _ AGREEMENT COULD BE REACHED BY THE TWO HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATIONS `INVOLVED BY VHE FOLLOWING VOTE OF THE COMMISSION: AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Commissioner Rosario Kennedy Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins - _;. Vice Mayor Victor De Yurre Mayor•Xavier L. Suarez NOES: None, ABSENT: None. Mayor Suarez:,. Now again, to get a better negotiating posture for both sides, '.Belle Meade Island has to. understand that. we have not given them yet, there" -'is no -guard house there;- so I would strongly suggest that you negotiate:`.. Mr. Dawkinss And I'd like .to tell everybody before you leave,_` I am going to vote with you as much as;I,can for barricades`, but I'm not going to' vote for r no guard house;: because as I lookup, everybody in Overtown will be coming';for a guard house and it just can't. be done. Now,. I started out with the a. barricade. Now everybodywants a barricade.. Then when we give a guard house, e = everybody's_ going to want a guard house, so I want to tell,you now, so. you' ®ll ; know where I am, I will not be voting for., guard, ,because.., I• going -to gibe one to everybody in the City. Mr. Plummers That's like Claude Pepper. I've got my friends over here and I got my friends.over here and I always vote for my.frtends.` Ms. Shearin: May I just say thank you? It's six minutes after 9:00 a'alock, a we know it's, late. zafF i 4 rr t k l�•' C46 tY4 t Rl � fk 4i'N�y� NONNI t1^., r'w a� rrt 1 hr ,'Tcr.*.; 3�}. ir' n3 n Y r r '§ Selx'9i 41 ME N y(75,�Fi 3 E1 NOT C(MOIDURATIOM Or PROy0it8D SMcOMD MONO1RDIMAN4'g ??. COMTIM TO APiiii. '!`0 10MAhiMS 0!� D8"pM O T DISTRICTS WAND III _ W Mr. !'ernandess Item 106. OK, which item has to be continued to a specific date? { Mayor.$uaress r- Because it is a public hearing, you need to continue it to the Mr.ernandess _ next... Mayor Suaress I'll entertain a motion to continue 106 to when? Mr. Fernandes: To the next meeting. Mayor Suaress Which meeting, April what? uip- varnandess April 27th. f �� DOCUMENT INDE)J M WAr F 5r — • s 89-320 - Si a - 89-321 '89-322 89 323. } V 'A.z 1Y 11 �ryj � 89,L324 4 1 � 4 W i z< 89-325 �s ,-�� •� r FS }1�1CT. 89-326' t ktr - x fart*f r F1 DOCUMENT INDEX 7 DOCUMENT MCATION R 11 RIEVAL CODE APPROVE STREET CLOSURESJOR LIONS CLUB INTERNATIONAL CONVENTION PARADE' TO BE CONDUCTED ASSOCIATION OFLIONSCLUB0 89-330, APPROVE STREET CLOSURES ESTABLISHMENT OF. PEDESTRIAN MALL AND AREA PROHIBITEDrt TO,RgTAIL PEDDLERS FOR 11TH ANNUAL OCONUT GROVE -'BED RACE.''SPOWSORED BY MUSCULAR DYSTROPHY ASSOCIATION. 89-331 ACCEPT. PLAT ENTITLED"LAVIGNE ESTATESL 89-332 ACCEPT, PLAT ENTITLED "ST. MICHAELS PARISH SUBDIVISION 9 33 3 _ A, ACCEPT BID OFL ARGOS, INT119RNATIONAL, INC FOR;:FURN,ISHING AIR :FILTRATON "SYSTEM FOR POLICE' DEPARTMENT' (PROJECT 3 89o334 ACCEPT.. Cd OF MUSASKI ;j ERNAT-ION I N P FURNITUREFOR "_OFFICE TA(PROJECT N cl 3 0 0 7 ]89 31 5 -, MW - G E_ 'UR D RAL GOVERNMENT TO - ALLOCATE e Ob qLq0 TOL!_ CITY; OF X I 'AMI*l TO -FIGHTING COCAINE 89 -.;338- DESIGNATE 'MILLER DiW KINS - AS THE.:CITY "S EMISSARY .TO �PRRSONALLY ELIVER.A BOVA CITED RE S OLUT I ON - TO THE' -D, AP 10PRIATE.,.66VERNi KkNTOFFICIALS.. 8g^335 V ZE�.PURCH _()F�L ADDITION SE 4UTHORT k At MICROCOMPUTERS AND PERIPHERAL-1 QUIPMENT ,FROM UNISYS.-CORPORATION, UNDER'L , EXIST IN DADS N 6 r, _3 OR L A CONTACT S 18 !W,ARTMEN-T rtfi P 0 RTCONCEPT 'A lT , IN --,' COMPLEX t)ITAR j 7. i'J,, N REA s4rMl )-JIRCRENZ T Z�R 4, T -A";, 0 DOCUMENT INDEX 1Z4;j,T3• KEEP DADE BEAUTIFUL, INCORPORATED PROGRAM ALLOC I'TE,,$ 3 A -01000 FROM 1998,1989 SOLID WAS ' TE !DEPARTMENT OPERATING BUDGET, FY 189/JTPA II--BSUMMU YOUTH EMPLOYMENT.,AND TRAINING PROGRAM AL.6CAT'E.'$138,'600.,TO BELAFONTE TACOL:C'Y. CIENTERO I INC. 4 RETRIEVALCMINCk 89-349 89-351 89-352 .1 8 35 .... . . . . . . 13 oft& a Documr.NT INDEX AUTHORIZE TEMPORARY RESTRICTION OF VEHICULAR ACCESS ON 90—DAY TRIAL BASIS N9, 70THO 71ST AND 72ND STREETS AT DISTRICT BOUNDARY -LINE ON EASTERLY-SIDE,OF BISCAYNE BOULEVARD ACCEPT PROPOSAL OF AMERICAN TELEPHONE AND TELEGRAPH CORPORATION (AT&T) FOR MULTI YEAR LEASE PURCHASE OF CITYWIDE TELEPHONE SYSTEM. ACCEPT COMPLEMENTARY PROPOSALS OF ENVIROMENTAL SYSTEMS RESEARCH INSTITUTE (ESRI) AND'DIGITAL EQUIPMENT CORP ORATO IN '(DEC) FOR SOFTWARE AND OF &:GEOGRATHIC '.INFORMATION 'SYSTEM (GIS):- ACCEPT. DONATION BY GTE INTECH, INC. OF 'COMPUTER SOFTWARE% AND SERVICES: ,'-VE E'SSARY,• 'TO' DEVELOP —A MODEL OF CItY'S :TRASH �COLL-ECT�ION,�SYSTEM.:'WITH':�MONIES. ALLOCATED" FROM GEOGRAPHIC; sINFORMATION (CAPITAL-' ',':PRO"JECT-.>NO.�3-14-2-321):,I ``ACCEPT `GRANTFROM.'TAGOLCY ;�Ec _ON.OMIC bEVELOPMENT FOR ?REVENUE E 'S' N "CE T R D I E -GATEWAY- _-I0i , FOR; LANDSCAPE "CONSTRUCTION :7OR EDI SON .CENTER COMMERCIALREVITALIZATION AREA., A`Cictkt, AND 'ENTEK INTO 'AN ` _lWT �AGREEMENT WITH TEVC -ACCEPT'BID FROM -ALL" CONSTRUCTION -.--INC. FOR LANDSCAPE CONSTRUCTION SERVICES. -`-CO . ACCEPT BID OF BUILD ALLCONSTRUCTION iOREDISON DECORATIVE SIDEWALK P ROJECT -"B'45 35 AC6EPV`B'IDOF GRANZ%'TECHNOLOGIES: -STALLATION. ROJECT CITY.*, POLICE OtXCE --DR TrA PARTMEN. E' QTNI.r -T0 `HXR`TUGEl'CbNSiA4AT I ON A' A _lEjON ARID 0, _.,QjN.TED_.' Vle FA 5 PAIINEVAL 4=44. 89�360 _10 89-361, 89-362 rY 89, "A u- 80 364."" 89�365 S.J s �_ 4 5 DOCUMENT INDEX 6 F_ `r 7 _ N .. IE :. - olt" - COMMISSION ON. THE :STATUS OF WOMEN: CONFIRM APPOINTMENTS. APPOINTED WERE: �- ALICIA BARO, CONCHY BRETOSNIKKI BEARE, 'CYNTHIA "COCHRAN,BLANCA_GALVEZ, LUISA GARC:I"A : TOLEDO, RUBY . HEMINGWAY, , '= MONA ;LITHE, -MARY ,:MCCRAY, JUDY -MILLER_, ANITA`RAFKY, VERNEKA SILVA,.KATHLEEN _I SHEA,.'JULIE.TIGER AND CLARE WHELAN. 89—_369 i RATIFY "CITY MANAGER'S. FINDING ;OF EMERGENCY REGARDING THE MOBILIZATION OF POLICE AND OTHER PUBLIC SAFETY AGENCIES DUE'.TO JANUARY 16,':1989'CIVIL.DISTURBANCE. AUTHORIZE= PURCHASE" FOOD,"TEAR• GAS, GAS <. " ,OF MASKS,: <IODY ,SHIE.LDS "AND HELMETS; -FROM ' VARTOUS.:VENDORS AND STX'RADIO BATTERIES _ =. e FROM _MOTOR.OLA-,COMMUNICATIONS AND ;THE;° =' ELECTRONICS.; INC. 89-370: A-U.THORTZB+-SUBMISSION.KOF; AMENDED.: 14TH t 'f YEARAR.QMMNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK..GRANTa (CDBG) :PROGRAM FINAL STATEMENTTO US . HUD.! REFLECT ALLOCATION OF': $1,500,000f i F.OR..-Ar, CD 1 FLOAT, GRANTa '.LOAN -:(1989-90) f AUTHORIZE ,MANAGER TO PRESENT: FOR COMM-TISSION'APP.ROVAL :ALV-.,AGREEMENTS * RE.QUIRED ,,TQ ,PROVIDE . A , LOAN-,,aO: CHALKEN" r} _ j CORP08°A TION':;.FDR:_RENOVATION., OF A- BUILDING + AND ESTABLISHMENT OFNEIGHBORHOOD NONPROFIT VOCATIONAL" SCHOOL.;.' 89-371 fy, t, - - CO DESIGNATE 8TH AVENUE.;WEST.FROM SW.,,= .11TA :STREET TO NW.--4TH STREET:AS=_ "PEDRO LUIS BOITEL AVENUE". 89-372 - L tn� ACCEPT:COMP.LETED WORK OF.M. VILA AND ASSOCIATES., INC. FOR ALLAPATTAH HIGHWAY' IMPROVEMENTTPHASE,II (CIP.PROJECT 34111$).::AUTHORTZE FINAL PAYMENT. $9 3,3 tJ, " ACC,EP.T. COMPLETED OF LANZO ,WORK . CONSTRUCTION, INC'FOR FAIRLAWN SOUTH SANITARY SEWER TMPROVEMENT (CIP sY . PROJECT 351173)' AUTHORIZE FINAL PAYMENT.: ACCEPT., COMPLETED WORK ',OP' DOUGLAS _ 7� , ,N. "HIGG.INS;'. INC .' FOR FL 4 "Oft SANITARY &EWER IMPB,OVEMENT .4CIP ,PROJECT � O RIZE FINAL'PAYMENT.. v s ay�K,r a 4tO �B VsNA E FTJ'Ia 4xH STREET � EBT�tEBN-- i {n �.xi.ATJ2.tTlt/11, R. E,GA`XNE EOULEVARA AND BxSCAYNE- � i•1T T� � 1T';4 T Lf .: ,.�itnlTtf