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ITY OF MIA won INDEX MINUTES OF REGULAR HgATING CITY COmmissION OF MIAMI, FLORIDA MAY 11, 1989 ITEM SUBJECT LEGISLATION PAGE NO. NO. DIRECT ADMINISTRATION TO PLAN A DISCUSSION 1 ,. MEMORIAL FOR LESLIE PANTIN, SR. 5/11/89 2. AUTHORIZE LEASE AGREEMENT WITH BOARD OF R 89-420 2-3 DIRECTORS OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA 5/11/89 INTERNAL IMPROVEMENT TRUST FUND for use of east 1/2 of Lot 5 and Lot 7 of Twin River Island (Miami Bridge)(See y label 4). 3. BRIEF DISCUSSION REGARDING LEASE DISCUSSION 3 AGREEMENT WITH DADE COUNTY FOR 5/11/89 NEIGHBORHOOD HEALTH CLINICS IN LITTLE — .AVANA AND OVERTOWN (See label 5). 4. (Continued Discussion): AUTHORIZE R 89-421 4-5 MANAGER TO ISSUE A REVOCABLE PERMIT TO 5/11/89 MIAMI BRIDGE, INC. - for use of The Miami River Rapids Park property as a - residential facility for runaways and a crisis intervention center for youths (See label 2). 5. (Continued Discussion): EXECUTE LEASE R 89-422 5-6 AGREEMENT WITH DADE COUNTY AT A NOMINAL 5/11/89 Y<` FEE FOR CITY -OWNED LAND IN LITTLE HAVANA AND OVERTOWN FOR NEIGHBORHOOD '' HEALTH CLINICS (See label 3). 6. PRESENTATIONS, PROCLAMATIONS & 'SPECIAL DISCUSSION 7 ITEkS''(See label_ 6).' 5/11/89 f 7. CONSENT AGENDA. DISCUSSION 7-8 Y 5/11/89 7.1 SUPPORT NEED FOR'ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR R 89-423 8 STATEWIDE TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS 5/11/89 Fs:; Urge' Legislature and Florida Department of Transportation to restore funding for construction of Bricke11 Avenue t Bridge.:. y '1^ 7.2 ACCEPT BID: FLORIDA FIRE APPARATUS R 89-424 8 CORP. for furaishiug six brake 5/1Lj89' retarder systems or: Fire ' Department: 7.3 ACCEPT"`BID- EMERGENCY VEHICLE R�89� 9= FABRICATORS, =INC: (EVE) for..:.5/1Lj89s�u; furnisDiing "latior ' and aterialei' " refurbishing 'b ghtF"rescue -ambulan��e for Fire Depart- nt. 7 4 ACCEPT BID: MIRI CONSTRUCTION, INC; R 89 42b . _ P . � for,.Downtown HighwayIm rovement Phase 5/il/89 ;II (Bid'°AN) F f n 'n} _- 7i5 AMEND R-88-844 - allocating monies in R 89-427 4 support of fund-raiser concert for Ex- 5/11/89 Presos y Combatientes Politicos Cubanos - Change date of event. T,6 ACCEPT COMPLETED WORK: C. TARAFA R 89-428 9 CONTRACTING, INC. - for Fire Station 5/11/89 #8 - Washroom Modification, 7.T ACCEPT COMPLETED WORK: D.E. GIDI & R 89-429 9 ASSOCIATES, CORP. - for Lummus Park 5/il/89 Plata. y.a SUNSHINE STATE GAMES/DADS COUNTY R 89-430 10 REGIONAL GAMES event conducted by 5/11/89 Coconut Grove Bicycle Club, Inc. - Authorize street closures. b. (A) PRESENTATIONS, PROCLAMATIONS & DISCUSSION 10 SPECIAL ITEMS (See label 6). 5/11/89 (B) DONATION OF MARJORIE STONEMAN DOUGLAS PORTRAIT - to be exhibited at City Hall. 9. DISCUSS AND TEMPORARILY TABLE PROPOSED DISCUSSION 10-13 ACCEPTANCE OF BIDS: (a) Mercy 5/11/89 Outpatients Center, Inc. (for physical examinations for police officers and firefighters, and (b) Cedars Medical Center, Inc. (for medical assessment of prospective and current employees (See label 14). 10. PRESENTATION. DISCUSSION 14 ' 5/11J8�_ ,.: 11. APPROVE REQUEST -FROM AIRPORT -SEVEN '5640 R 89-431 14-15 LIMITED PARTNERSHIP - to reschedule due 5/11/89 dateof first payment in the repayment of° Airport: Seven Urban Development Action 'Grant (UDAG), accepting an additional 6% interest payment for such extension of time. s. 12. (A) 1989 MIAMI/BAHAMAS GOOMBAY R.-89-432 15-20 FESTIVAL Authorize street closures, DISCUSSION pedestrian mall, 'permit'= to sell' beer 5/11/89 u and vine, prohibit retail`' peddlers: (B) REQUEST MORE SECURITY FOR COCONUT GROVE DURING WEEKENDS.: 13. AD HOC CHARTER REVIEW COMMITTEE R'89-433 (DISTRICT ELECTIONS):-Allocate''$10,000 5/11/80. budget. r 14. (Continued Discussion): ACCEPT BIDS; R.89 434 25 '26 Irv. (a)`Mercy`Outpatient Center,rIncor/11J89 physical' examinations for poi ices` officers '°and` -'-firefighters), "and°` Cedars Medical Cefo nter, Inc: (r, frfiYkr� medical . Assessments of prospective current City employees) (See label 9) oi rA- 'tyyY} R r r. I ltie. E'�t✓ �it�r� � - tt _; •. t . _.. .: .. _... . _' I: .. .. . ` J , _, ,' ..."-+-. -. .. - ..� ..:i.gl , i :N.: 1 `ia... r; �'�k^"!.,!3�..iSk'.'�d - I 0 IS. AUTHORIZE FUNDING OF DAY CARE PROGRAMS M 89-435 UNDER COMMUNITY DE"LOPMENT (CDBG) - as 5/11/89 recommended by Admin tration - Direct Manager to place funding cap of $3,300 per child for next fiscal year unless Administration proves said level of funding to be inadequate. 16. (A) REPORT BY CITIZENS' INDEPENDENT R 89-436 REylTSM PANEL. DISCUSSION (B) ALLOCATE AN ADDITIONAL $360500 TO 5/11/89 INDEPENDENT REVIEW PANEL - for investigating and reviewing community relations between police officers and residents of Overtown. 17. APPROVE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS M 89-437 BID ADVERTISEMENTS. 5/11/89 18. (A) DISCUSS RAINBOW PARK HOUSING PROJECT - Request Manager to investigate Rainbow Park playground equipment condition. (B) REQUEST REPORT FROM MANAGER REGARDING POSSIBLE, SALE OF CITY -OWNED LAND OF NO VALUE. 19. COMMISSIONER PLUMMER INDICATES NEED TO DISCUSS 2% TAX FOR RESTAURANTS. (This item was never taken up again for discussion during this agenda.) 20. (A) FIRST READING ORDINANCE: Amend DISCUSSION 5/11/89 26-37 37-41 41-44 44-45 DISCUSSION 45 5/11/89 ORDINANCE 46-52 Code Sections 62-61 and 62-62 •- Provide FIRST..READING for -advertising surcharBe - Increase DISCUSSION fees for application,,.requests to review 5/11/89 decisions: of the Zoning Board, Zoning Administrator, or Director. of Planning Department. (A) :REQUEST:ADMINISTRATION TO PROVIDE A MONTHLY REPORT CONCERNING ALL APPLICANTS" WHO HAVE BEEN GRANTED A CHANGE; IN ZONING BUT WHO FAIL, TO APPLY FOR A BUILDING PERMIT WITHIN 18-MONTHS. 21. SECOND READING ORDINANCE: Amend Code ORDINANCE 52-56 Section 54-100 - allow for construction 10582 and. location :;,of guard houses in 5/11/89,. dedicated right-of-way. n 22. SECOND READING ORDINANCE,;- Amend.10.484;-- ORDINANCE 57-58 increase-, appropriations; in Internal 10583 ,srvice Fund/General Services 5/11/89 Administration/Fleet,, Management by $3,900,280. 23. SECOND.,READINGORDINANCE:, Amend. 10521:-, ORDINANCE 59-60 establjp4 ;.� new. "project: "Preliminary 10504 Special Obligation Bond Expense FY. 189 5/11/89 ($140,OQ0) Appropriate; funds from 0940. proceeds, 24. SECOND RWINGA ORDINANCE Aiiend 10455 ORDINANCR by-:inareato:,.a ecial 1a585 appropriatioa f4u . revenue J funda; "JTPA Title I/Older 5/11/89, Worker (FY189)" and "JTRA Title 4s< A/Neighborhoods Jobs rrogram (FY for operation of Neighborhood "- Jgbs Program.; r i s'. 25. FIRST READING ORDINANCE: Amend Code ORDINANCE 62-65 Sections 2-75, 2-83.1, 19-5, 19-178, FIRST READING 19-1849 19-260 and 19-516 - 5/11/89 _ 41 Establish/adjust fees for annual reinspection of buildings, user fees a for emergency medical transportation, charges for inspection/testing of fire suppression/detection systems, permits for blasters and -precision explosive demolition of structures, discharge of fireworks, storage of flammable or combustible liquids, and assembly. 26. FIRST READING ORDINANCE: Amend Code DISCUSSION 65-79 Sections dealing with Office of 5/11/89 Professional Compliance (2-236.2 and 42-62) pertaining to organizational status, powers/duties, providing for advisory committee; Section relating to filing/investigation- of complaints filed against police officers; Section ' relating to reporting an incomplete, biased or deficient investigation. 27. MIAMI-DADE COMMUNITY COLLEGE: F: 89-438 79-88 Discussion on possible purchase of 5/11/89 City --owned property (Municipal Shops Tract) N.W. 20th Street located at N.W. 10th Avenue. 28. DISCUSSION CONCERNING OPENING DOMINO DISCUSSION 89-90 PARK ON SUNDAYS THROUGHOUT END OF 5/11/89 FISCAL YEAR. 29. (A) REQUEST BY UNIVERSITY OF M 89-439 90-108 MIAMI FOR RELEASE OF R 89-440 RESTRICTIONS AND REVERTER 5/11/89 INVOLVING THE: PROPERTY "PLANET OCEAN"_ -'- in- exchange for 420 7 half -scholarships.- (B) - RELEASE "PLANET OCEAN" FROM ALL RIGHTS UNDERiDEED'RESTRICTIONS.. f, k}: 30. ALLOCATE ADDITIONAL$29,000 1-,-:TO R 89-441 109 ALLAPATTAH BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT 5/11/89 AUTHORITY, INC.:- -.Amend ,prior tl='• agreement. z 31. EXECUTE_;, : -AGREEMENT WITH CHAIKEN R 89-442 110-112 , CORPORATION : Provide: $1,500,000-;in 5/11/89 Community Development- Block Grant":Float Fund or, renovation of, building :and z- establishment of a -nonprofit vocational school at 7321 N.E. 2nd Avenue in Edison/Little.Rivsr Neighborhood,:. 32. DISCUSS .AND DEFER CONSIDERATION:: :OF DISCUSSION PROPOSED. CONTRACT:,. WITH:,. -SOUTHEAST BANK.` 5/11/89 ly 4{ , FOR LOCKBOX SERVICES. + 33. AUTHpRIZE ISSUANCE'•: 0� ; $6,'S00, 000 = .9F R $ 443 i 16-125 CITY,,, OF,, i::MIAM'L, F1.4RIDA,.= `�rUAi�ANTRED 5/11/89 f ENTITLEMENT-' REVENttE . ':` 021DS;`'".. S RI & 4989,n" - to finance -costs.: of certain capital improvements and equipment. ' .d4{ ! . •.::' .- '. 1 i a _.;.. } b � .,•-jf Irj.:' i, tic �� . r s _{�{`,r ...s •i. .w,,..e. ,. _. r t_ ..- - .., -. ,- ., -C. { .,-`_..��. ,, .' a. �. ,.H. 3_,esz?s ,'fik .2��e>s�6�"i .. — S4, SECOND READING ORDINANCE- Amend ORDINANCE i't5-126 10521 - Establish new projects "Hadley 10586 Park - Fool Replacement" - Appropriate 5/11/89 $2,100,000 from proposed issuance of AN City of Miami Florida Guaranteed Entitlement Revenue Bonds, Series 1989. 35. ACCEPT $IDI PANDICK OF MIAHI - for R 89-444 126 furnishing typesetting, layout and 5/11/89 printing of official statement special a obligation bonds for GSA/Graphic Reproductions Division ($10,500,000). = 36. REJECT PROTESTS- FROM BERMELLO, KURKI, R 89-445 127-135 AND `iiERA, INC. AND FROM BOSCO, KIRKLAND 5/11/89 ARCHITECTS, AND TO UPHOLD PROTEST RECEIVED FROM CHARLES HARRISON PAWLEY, ET AL - regarding professional architectural/engineering services for City Administration Building, Phase II. 37. EXECUTE LEASE AGREEMENT WITH R 89-446 135-137 =- GROVECOMPO, INC. - office space at 5/11/89 2850 Tigertail Avenue, and the microwave room on roof. 38. AUTHORIZE MANAGER TO MARKET AND CONVEY R 89-447 137-138 TO QUALIFIEDLOW/MODERATE INCOME HOME 5/11/89 BUYERS TWO (2) NEW SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ON CITY -OWNED LOTS located at N.W. 35th Street in Wynwood Community Development Target area. 39. EXECUTE AGREEMENT WITH PROPERTY OWNERS R 89-448 138 FOR ACQUISITION OF TWO (2) PARCELS 5/11/89 WITHIN EDISON/LITTLE RIVER COMMUNITY _Z2 DEVELOPMENT`` TARGET AREA - to develop affordable housing` in connection 'with -!� the'` City Sponsored' Scattered Site Affordable Housing -Development Program. 'b j 40. AUTHORIZE' PURCHASE AND INSTALLATION OF R 89-449 139 —' WELCOME TO MIAMI, SIGNS AT INTERSECTION 5/11/89 -e r OF N.E. 87TH` STREET AND BISCAYNE BOULEVARD, S.W. 8TH STREET AND TAMIAMI , CANAL ROAD, AND MACARTHUR CAUSEWAY AT SOUTHEASTERLY'POINi OF WATSON ISLAND. 41. RATIFY' PAYMENT TO SOLID WASTE DIVISION R 89-450 139-140 ?s' OF METRO' DADE `DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC 5/11/89 WORKS FOR DISPOSAL FEE - for`dumping of contaminated material` dredged from Dinner Key Marina Facilities. 42. RESTRICT, VEHICULAR, ACCESS TO -N:W. 1ST R'89-451 140-141 AVENUE BETWEEN F.E.C. RAILROAD RIGHT 5/11/89 OF -WAY" AND N W. 8TH, STREET -'DURING: EVENTS HELD�'AT' MIAMIARENA. '` 43. DISCtYS6 `' AND DEFER ` TO NEXT. MEETING DISCUSSION 7� PROPOSED CO=DESIGNATION N..W ` 17TH STREET FROM N.W. 27TH,- AVENUE -.TO N.V. 37TH AVENUE AS "FATHER FELIX-VARELA ' STREET"' 44.' ACCEPT COMPLETED WORKS ROB -EL DISCUSSION 142-I'43 �x CONSTRUCTION CORPORATION, for Manor 5/11/$9 Highway. Improvement'- "Phase III.t t v ,,_ 45. CONFIRM ASSESSMENT ROLL FOR R 89-452 143-144 - CONSTRUCTION OF LITTLE RIVER HIGHWAY 5/11/89 A IMPROVEMENT - District H-4482. - _1 46. EMERGENCY ORDINANCE: Amend 10521 - ORDINANCE _ 144-145 y Increase appropriations: "Coconut Grove 10587 Exhibition Center - Renovation and 5/11189 -� Expansion" ($300,000). - 47. RATIFY MANAGERS FINDING OF EMERGENCY R 89-453 145-146 REGARDING INSTALLATION OF AIR 5/11189 CONDITIONING SYSTEM AND PAINTING - EXISTING STRUCTURE UNDER: "COCONUT - GROVE EXHIBITION CENTER - RENOVATION AND EXPANSION" PROJECT. = 48. GRANT REQUEST FOR NEIGHBORS TO BEGIN R 89-454 146-163 - PROCESS FOR CREATION OF SPECIAL TAXING 5/11/89 DISTRICT FOR THE GREATER BELLE MEADE AREA (excluding Belle Meade Island) - to provide guard house services. 49. DISCUSS AND REFER TO MANAGER COMPLAINT DISCUSSION 163-168 —_ RECEIVED REGARDING VEHICLE ACCIDENT IN 5/11/89 PARKING LOT. OF ROBERT KING TOWERS HOUSING PROJECT. �I 50. CONSTITUTE A NORTHEAST AREA ASIAN R 89-455 168-170 VILLAGE COMMITTEE - Appoint members. 5/11/89 51. GRANT REQUEST BY MUSCULAR DYSTROPHY R 89-456 171-173 - - ASSOCIATION - Waive user fee.for a City 5/11/89 park, use of the Showmobile and rental jof a .bleachers. 52. A)EMERGENCY ORDINANCE: Establish ORDINANCE 173-175 —aj special'' revenue fund: "1989 Budweiser 10588 Regatta" - Appropriate $63,000. R 89-457 BY "1989. BUDWEISER' UNLIMITED 5/11/89 _ HYDROPLANE REGATTA" - Execute agreement with... Anheuser-Busch, Inc., - for sponsorship of the event to be held at Miami Marine.Stadium. 53. A. CITY MANAGER TO NEGOTIATE POSSIBLE M 89-458 177-197 LEASE WITH OPTION TO BUY: 4400 Biscayne M 89-459 Boulevard as proposed Administration 5/11/89 F= Building. - *, B.. ADMINISTRATION BUILDING PHASE II - suspend process for selection of architects and engineers. 54. DIRECT CITY ATTORNEY TO COME BACK WITH M 89-460 197-199_ APPROPRIATE ORDINANCE TO INSTITUTE THE 5/11/89 CITY COMMISSION POLICY TO ALLOW POLICE r VETERANS TO KEEP THEIR SERVICE WEAPON ' AFTER HONORABLE .RETIREMENT. 5{ m r r _— 55. DISCUSSION CONCERNING CONDITION OF DISCUSSION. 199-200 x RAILROAD CROSSINGS IN THE..CITY OF: '5/11/89 k - MIAMI, ra r - r� - '� 56. DISCUSS AND DEFER TO MEETINP OF DISCUSSION 201-202 JUNE 7TH CONSIDERATION OF THE USE OF RUMBLE (SPEED) STRIPS WITHIN 5/11/89 THE CITY. S7. APPROVE ExECUTION OF PARTICIPATION R 89-461 202-210 AGREEMENT BY DEPARTMENT OF OFF-STREET 5/11/B9 PARKING CONCERNING THE LOANING OF FUNDS FROM THE FIRSTMUNICIPAL COUNCIL'S POOL = LOAN PROGRAM TO THE CITY OF MIAMI- (Note: Authorization loan was recommended in connection with funding for the Coconut Grove Playhouse project, the refinancing of two outstanding City loans with Barnett Bank to build the Arena parking, and for the purchase of land in the Latin Quarter area.) 58. DISCUSSION BY OVERTOWN TASK FORCE ON R 89-462 210-216 STATUS OF PROJECTS IN OVERTOWN AREA - 5/11/89 Waive deed restrictions for possible housing units. 59. A) DIRECT ADMINISTRATION TO EARMARK M 89-463 216-222 $1,500,000. FOR PURCHASE OF LAND R 89-464 REGARDING . DEVELOPMENT' OF THE LATIN 5/11/89 QUARTER DISTRICT - Request Manager to draft -two definite proposals. B) DIRECT MANAGER TO EARMARK $500,000 _ (PREVIOUSLY EARMARKED FOR HOUSING IN LITTLE HAVANA) FOR THE LATIN QUARTER DISTRICT PROJECT. ;.60; REQUEST, -RECOMMENDATION° FROM M 89-465 223,-234. -MANAGER, ON POSSIBLE RESTRICTION 5/11/89 OF HOURS OF OPERATION OF BARS IN -=THE ;CITY OF MIAMI - - Direct City =f� AL_aorney to draft.. a - more r.es.trictive ordinance. bl. GRANT REQUEST FROM. EL_CHOTIS RESTAURANT M-89-466- 235-2 6,: - - TO.'EXTEND.HOURS OF OPERATION CONCERNIN,G,. 5/11/89— "LA FIESTA DE.SAN ISIDRO". ;ram 62.._, AUTHORIZE ISSUANCE OF REQUEST FOR M_89-467 236-237" PROPOSALS REGARDING RENOVATION OF THE 5/11/89 POLICE DEPARTMENT SHOOTING RANGE. 63. RESCHEDULE SECOND MEETING IN MAY TO MAY M 89-468 - 237-238 25TH AT-1:30 P.M. 5/11/89 f � � `t ivw _ "'. ♦ ,' art P .t Y t+i ��- Ord r y ,( x� MINUTES OF REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF MIAMI, FLORIDA st,k#e* R On the llth day of May, 1989, the City Commission of Miami, Florida, toot at its regular meeting place in the City Hall, 3500 Pan American Drive, Miami, Florida in regular session. The meeting was called to order at 9:09 a.m. by Mayor Xavier Suarez with the following members of the Commission found to be present: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Commissioner Rosario Kennedy Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins Mayor Xavier L. Suarez ABSENT: Vice Mayor Victor De Yurre ALSO PRESENT: Cesar Odio, City Manager Jorge L. Fernandez, City Attorney Matty Hirai, City Clerk - halter J. Foeman, Assistant City Clerk An invocation was delivered by Mayor Suarez who then led those present in a pledge of allegiance to the flag. 1. DIRECT ADMINISTRATION TO PLAN:A MEMORIAL.FOR:LESLIE PANTIN,'SR, Mayor-.Suar::z; Commissioner Kennedy wanted to make a statement on the passing away of a dear friend. Mrs. Kennedy: Right. All of you know, Mr. Mayor, Leslie'Pantin Sr. passed - away last,Sunday, and,,.I- think ;that;:this-Commissiom ought - ,to .consider ,a fitting memorial: in -:his; honor.: He-was-agreat supporter of the Latin Quarter and of; ,E the Little Havana area, but most importantly, he was pioneer in the 'sense thati: .he.was.one of -the first Cuban Americans to become full fledged members of many, �Y;+ institutions and community organizations and he always was a greatambassador for the -,.City of Miami and I would like to askgthe Administration to:work with his;wife•;Maria Elena Torano and his with son, 'Leslie Pant in-. come-ups:vithlas fitting memorial..and,I'd like for us to have a moment of silence now. '(MOMENT a OF SILENCE OBSERVED) Thank you. Mayor Suarez: Thank you, Commissioner. ------------------------------------------------------- NOTE, FOR:THE-RECORD; Even;,. though no,�..formal motion: was r. ade ,at this time to. draft a cpndolences� ;resolution : and '"since ::the :City, t; CooYniesioa:::meant to do so, a resolution was in fact prepared and:: ` forwarded to the family of Mr. Leslie Pantin, Sr. expressing: deepest sympathy,-a►nd.,sincerest;condolenses of ,the City, Comm scion on behalf of the City of Miami and its citizens. SAiD,`RESO UTION' r7 � <, lS,,, NUMBERED. R-89!419, _ - -- --- ----------------- 's A' o...—ram..—�w..n �.�-.n.--......—... LE r s a 9 Mkt' r�4 o ti - h fit! y 11 6 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 2. AUTHORIZE LEASE AGREEMENT WITH BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA INTERNAL IMPROVEMENT TRUST FUND for use of east 1/2 of Lot 5 and Lot 1 of Twin River Island (Miami Bridge) (See label 4). ------------ — - ----- --------- Mayor Suarez- There is an amergency having to do with the Miami Bridge Institution which Is the only one of its kind in Dade County for troubled youth. There is another emergency In that my wife is involved in this and if I don't get rid of this Item, we might never get to anything else here today. Commissioners... Mr. Plummer: That's a damn good ideal Mayor Suarez: The item involves a use permit for some property, its a revocable use permit for property of the City so that they can relocate from where they presently are and it is pending the Legislature this morning is meeting at 10:00 1 believe to consider the $500,000 in funding that they need if the Commission would agree to a resolution allowing for that use permit that would allow them to perhaps get their situation squared away. Mr. Dawkins: Move, so we can get his wife out of here. Mrs. Kennedy: I so move, second. Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded. Any discussion? Mr. Fernandez: It is a revocable permit. Mr. Plummer: Just for the record, that is a revocable permit and I want it is clearly stated on the record that it is understood by the Miami Bridge that.a revocable permit means that any time three members of this Commission were to deem it necessary, that permit can be pulled within 30 days and I just want that understood by Miami Bridge on the record. On the... no,. no, who is represent Miami Bridge. INAUDIBLE BACKGROUND COMMENTS NOT ENTERED INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD. Mr. Plummer: -OK, I need on the record that you understand thatandyou concur that that is the way we're traveling. Mir. Rafael Diaz-Balart: Rafael Diaz-Balart, 1870 SW... Mr'. Plummer: Another one? They're everywhere, they're everywherelYou understand that that is the terms and conditions in which 'you accept this negotiated contract with the City? Mr. Diaz-Balart: I do, sir. Mr. Plummer: Thank you. Mayor Suarez: Well, with another Diaz-Balart brother, and with Mrs. Morse here, this is really a family affair. Our best bet,is to go ahead and take a vote on it. Is there any further discussion from the CommissionT Commissioner Plummer?➢ Hr.;:Plummit':No :I have no further discussion., Mayor Suarez: Call the roll. 4 4 j� ........... . The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Dawkins, who moved its adoptions — RESOLUTION NO. 89-420 A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO A LEASE AGREEMENT BY AND BETWEEN THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF THE INTERNAL IMPROVEMENT TRUST FUND OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA AND THE CITY OF MIAMI, IN SUBSTANTIALLY THE FORM ATTACHED, FOR THE USE OF THE EAST 1/2 OF LOT 5 AND LOT 7, OF TWIN RIVER ISLAND, ACCORDING TO THE PLAT THEREOF, AS RECORDED IN PLAT BOOK 40 AT PAGE 84 OF THE PUBLIC RECORDS OF DADE COUNTY, FLOR?DA, TOGETHER WITH THE IMPROVEMENTS LOCATED THEREON, SAID LEASE BEING FOR A PERIOD OF 50 YEARS COMMENCING ON JANUARY 10, 1989 AND ENDING ON JANUARY 10, 2039, AT NO COST TO THE CITY. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Commissioner Kennedy, the resolution was passed and adopted by the following votes AYES% Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Commissioner Rosario Kennedy Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins Mayor Xavier L. Suarez NOES: None. ABSENT: Vice Mayor Victor De Yurre Mayor Suarez: You might want to take and fax that resolution right up to... _ if you can get it to me, I'll sign it. 3. BRIEF DISCUSSION REGARDING LEASE AGREEMENT WITH DADE COUNTY FOR NEIGHBORHOOD HEALTH CLINICS IN LITTLE HAVANA AND OVERTOWN (See label 5). Mrs. Kennedy: Mr. Mayor, talking about Tallahassee and, resolutions, 1; have another one. authorizing the City Manager to execute a lease agreement in.a form acceptable to the City Attorney with Dade County at a nominal, fee for *_ City owned land in both the Little. Havana and Overtown areas for location of neighborhood health clinics, further directing the City Clerk to transmit copies of this resolution to the herein named officials and I so move. Is that this one? Mr. Plummer: Is that this one? Mrs. Kennedy: This one.' Mayor Suarez: Has everybody looked at it? I'm OK with it. Mr. Plummer: I' haven It screen it:. 71 Mayor Suarez: I'm ready:, whenever you are ready. on that,'.* k; } yq 7 a % s k zf en rr—.—...r--rr—r— ---.— — -- ..— -- —....r—rr...r...r—— 4. (Continued Discussion): AUTHORIZE MANAGER TO ISSUE A REVOCABLE PERMIT TO MIAMI BRIDGE, INC, r for use of The Miami River Rapids Park property as a residential facility for runaways and a crisis intervention center for youths (See label 2). l i.norrrrrrrrrrrr.rr—rrrr----rrri------r-----r-------r----rrrrrr--r--r—rr—...rrrrrr _} Mr. City Attorney, what is the other resolution we need on Miami Bridge? Mr. Fernandez: On Miami Bridge you also need to pass a resolution authorizing the City Manager to enter into lease agreement by and between the board of directors of the Internal Improvement Trust Fund of the State of Florida and the City of Miami and that is the lease... Mayor Suarez: Oh, so that we can get their land at $1.00 a year? _ Mr. Fernandez: Rxectly, exactly. And that would be really a condition before we can gine a revocable permit to Miami Bridge. Mayor, Suarez: Was a motion made on that? Ms. Hirai: Commissioner Kennedy moved it and we need a second on that. Mayor Suarez: OK, we haven't had a second, so I guess at the moment it is off the table until they clear up... J.L., Rosario, do you want to take a vote on the resolution for Miami Bridge that allows us to lease the rest of the property from the State at $1 a year to adjoining property. Mr. Plummer: That's fine. "L a Mayor Suarez: Do you want to move it? Mrs. Kennedy: .Sure, I'moved. —,i Mayor>Suarez: Commissioner Plummer seconds? Mr. Plummer: Sure. _ a Mayor Suarez: Call the roll on that. The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner,: Kennedy, who -� moved'its adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 89-421 A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ISSUE A REVOCABLE PERMIT TO MIAMI BRIDGE, INC., A. NOT -FOR -PROFIT: CORPORATION, IN A FORM ACCEPTABLE TO THE CITY ATTORNEY AND' 'r T CONTAINING CERTAIN; CONDITIONS,, FOR THE USE 'OF, .PROPERTY': CONTROLLED OR TO BE CONTROLLED BY THE CITY,,'KNOWN`AS THE MIAMI RIVER RAPIDS PARK, LEGALLY DESCRIBED AS THE EAST 1/2` OF LOT 5, LOT 6 AND LOT 7, OF TWIN RIVER ISLAND ' SUBDIVISION,.FOR USE AS'A RESIDENTIAL<SUBDIVISION, FOR USE AS A = RESIDENTIAL' FACILITY -FOR RZ7N4WAYS AND A. CRISIS FA INTERVENTION ' : CENTER ' FOR YOUTIiS ,AGED 7 10 THROUGH t -17 `,: YEARS, FOR A USER FEE OF $1.00 PER: YEAR, FOR A TWENTY YEAR , PERIOD,-; SAID PERMIT. TO. BE. BROUGHT. BEFORE `Ti(E CITY �fr�r� COMMISSION EVERY TW0 'YEARS';• FOR REVIEW =AS TO CpMI?LYANCB'_ ;THEREWITH, (Here follows body of resolution,: omltted hez'e andon -file- in-:the=Off..i of the .City> lefik.) `Upon; belAg .seconded.'by Comm i$sioner Plummer," the resolution :was passed" LF`� - and adopted by the following vote: �4 cif 1 Fi1 CA ,� V t Fi„ , YQ t. t 1 i? E x, AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plumber, Jr. C+issioher Rosario Kennedy Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins Mayor Xavier L. Suarez NOSS% None. ABSENT: Vice Mayor Victor De Yurre COMMENTS MADE DURING ROLL CALL: Mr. Dawkins: The one for the 'SO year? Mr. Plummer: To the State. Mr. Dawkins: To the State, yes. S. (Continued Discussion): EXECUTE LEASE AGREEMENT WITH DADE COUNTY AT A NOMINAL FEE FOR CITY-OWNSD LAND IN LI77 HAVANA AND OVERTOWN FOR NEIGHBORHOOD HEALTH CLINICS (See label 3). Mayor Suarez: OK what do we have on the clinics? Mr. Plummer: Let we see if I understand. What this is, is an application to the Legislature to hopefully get a grant of $10,000,000. In return, if they are granted this $10,000,000, we will then make a piece of City property available at a nominal fee so that they can proceed with this clinic, is that correct? Mrs. Kennedy: That is correct, although the $10,000,000, although it isn't herey`there is no way we are going to get anyway near that and we are talking about several hundred thousand dollars appropriated for this endeavor. Mr. Plummer: Then where, then my question has to be, where would the rest .of the money come from? You can't build a clinic for $200,000. ?' Y_ INAUDIBLE BACKGROUND COMMENTS NOTiENTERED-INTO 'THE PUBLIC RECORD._ Mr:;Plummer:. Who is`they? ' Mrs. Kennedy:` The State is, the 'State. Mr. ' Pliumner: Who are they? ' + +4y Mrs. Kennedy: The State. Mr. Plummer: The State. Fell, the concept is a good concept and it is. �U something that in worthwhile. I'm' -merely questioning, if -you don't get the } money, to build, are -wegoing to be tying up City land, that's the point I'm trying to... ... Mayor Suarez: Mr. -City Manager, Mr. City Attorney, is this conditional on their getting their financing together, whatever the entity ..is.• than, y going P , County or the State?% actually oiato be Public Health Department of Mr. Dawkins: Hold it right there, Mr. Mayor. No, it will not .,be a. publioy facility of the. County:-..' Now; when ;we. started�'talking Baer=Wald =that W wes►!9 x� , Bola g } to out a` ,. health - care center in Overtown that Will 4ary Qverio�n populace. Now, Miami -Jackson is not serving us now.. Now,= why. AV' you $QiagzS sYr td,! N give another- entity in "which` not to serve `us? So I ;think that #f nrg $Bt a fr x it. than we want , go,��Set >that center on 22nd ,. what is that? Fajil)► #i*alth Center or sosiebody: frith. a`°public `taste< -to operate it`, so me, i ern not of i County oporatdd'- facility. _- They. , got ` enough.. Nayar.= Bunten: }?Like I say, .the only key aspelpt that I wad `ro_A rria$ saying the Public . Health Trust ia...that wQ, are _clear3y sat doe$nt1haVsefundtorgelie$s ' The CitysO.operate. - i a F R} C 7 E Mr. Fernandez: That I know of, there is no matched funds involved here. if there is, it must be up to the entities. `Mayor Suarez: Can we pass the resolution? Is the resolution so drafted that It would say, as to the building of the facility only, not the operations at this point, that we would make the land available if the financing is obtained from those sources. Mr. Dawkins: So moved, so moved. Mr. Fernandez* Yes, you can do that. Mr. Dawkins: OK. Mayor Suarez* Moved and seconded. Any discussion? Call the roll. Mrs. Kennedy: By the way, this is for next session, for the next Legislative Session. Mr. Dawkins: Wait a minute. Representative Luis Morse was here... Mrs. Kennedy: Right and Representative Jefferson Reeves. Mr. Dawkins: And Jefferson Reeves and they are supposed to have money in this budget for this and now you are saying it is for the next session? Mayor Suarez: It was in the Governor's budget for this session, so I... Mr. Dawkins: That's right) Mrs. Kennedy: OK, never mind, I'm sorry, I got the wrong information. It's for this session. Mr. Dawkins: OK, no problem. Mayor `Suarez: Mrs. Morse again, you got all the items, yes, that were not on. Mr. Dawkins: Yes, he got all the wives. See, you can tell who is running these ships. See the wives are telling us what we are doing. Mayor Suarez: Call -the roil on that motion, Madam City Clerk.` The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Kennedy, who moved its adoption: t RESOLUTION NO. 89-422 al. A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A LEASEAGREEMENT, IN A`< FORM ACCEPTABLE TO THE CITY ATTORNEY, WITH DADE COUNTY AT A NOMINAL FEE FOR CITY -OWNED LAND IN BOTH THE LITTLE HAVANA AND OVERTOWN AREAS FOR�` LOCATION OF NEIGHBORHOOD HEALTH CLINICS; FURTHER DIRECTING THE CITY CLERK TO TRANSMIT COPIES OF THIS RESOLUTION TO THE HEREIN NAMED OFFICIALS.: RY (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here° and on` f ile, in' the Off ice of the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Commissioner Dawkins, the resolution>was,pessed, and adopted"by the following votez AGO,. e AYES: Commissioner J. L.'Plunmr, fir, ` CornaaLesioner Rosario. Kennedy Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins Msyax Xavier' I. Suarez — NOES; V V ABSENT;. c Ma or i. e Y rre , toa r ,f � a, i�yP y Cr D u. r n [ -i. -� -_-_rr_rrr-rrr_rrrr_rrrrrr-__-_r_rrrrrrrr W�.wi�r�r-.r Yr-�ii.r�r�--r..-rrr-r_-__rrr .. 6. PRESENTATIONS, PROCLAMATIONS & SPECIAL ITEMS (See label 8). a — _ __ PROCLAMATION Presented to Coconut Grove Jaycees in recognition of their being acclaimed as best Jaycees Chapter in the world at the Jaycees International World Congress. r -- - - -- --- ----- --------- _----------------..r.._�_r___.rr�.. 7. CONSENT AGENDA. Mayor Suarez: Items 1 through 12 of the Agenda comprise the Consent Agenda. We intend to vote on these collectively. If anyone wants to have any of these Items handled separately, considered separately, please step up to -the mike, Let the record reflect that no one so requested. Go ahead. - Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, for the record... =a Mayor Suarez: Which item?, Item 4 has been pulled. Mr. Plummer: For the record, the Administration has pulled item 5. Mayor Suarez: Thank you for reminding me .that there are a few items withdrawn from today's agenda, including 5, 16, 29, 47, and 50, all withdrawn by the Administration. OK, we've only had item 4 pulled at the request of Ms. Rosello. Anyone else, Commissioners? Billy? _ o - ------------------------------------------------------- NOTE FOR THE RECORD: Agenda Items Nos. 5, 18, 29, 47 and 50 were a withdrawn by the Administration. -g ------------------------------------------------------- Mr. Billy Rolle:: Billy Rolle, I reside. at 343 Williams Avenue..:This is item 11, we need to discuss it a little bit. Mayor Suarez: . OK, with the exception of, items k and 11, I.entertain a motion x _ en the Consent Agenda. Mr. Dawkins: Pull 7. Mayor Suarez: Item 7, Commissioner Dawkins. -------- - ------ - ---- --_---- ------------------ t NOTE FOR THE RECORD:- Vice Mayor De Yurro'' entered ,the meeting at, 9:22,A.M.- -------------- ------------------------------------ 1 Mayor Suarez: Yes$ vet ll;do:it right now. 5 f : 4 't Mr. Odio, Mr. Mayor# may;. l ask a -question while we axe Pas the Consent whit �N.! you flnish your voting? �t -. j s c Wf Mayor Suarez: With,, except IonQI items 4, 7 and l j , Ic a motiot} off` .an4Ftaia the Consent A Mr. Plummer;o moved/:{f Mr.. DAwkine: MAved, _ — � F F Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded, call the roll. THEREUPON WITH fiXCEPTION OF ITEMS 4, 7 AND 11, THE FOLLOWING ITEMS COMPRISING THE CONSENT AGENDA WERE DULY MOVED BY COMMISSIONER PLUMMER, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER DAWKINS AND APPROVED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE: AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Commissioner Rosario Kennedy Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins Vice Mayor Victor.De Yurre Mayor Xavier L. Suarez NOES: None. ABSENT: None. 7.1 SUPPORT NEED FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR STATEWIDE TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS - Urge Legislature and Florida Department of Transportation to restore funding for construction of Brickell Avenue Bridge. RESOLUTION NO. 89-423 A RESOLUTION SUPPORTING THE NEED FOR ADDITIONAL _ FUNDING FOR STATEWIDE TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS AND URGING THE LEGISLATURE AND THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION TO RESTORE FUNDING FOR CONSTRUCTION OF THE BRICKELL AVENUE BRIDGE WITHIN THE. CURRENT FIVE YEAR TRANSPORTATION CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PLAN AND FURTHER REQUESTING THAT FUNDS o BE ALLOCATED FOR ANAESTHETIC DESIGN FOR THE BRIDGE. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.) 7.2 ACCEPT BID: FLORIDA FIRE APPARATUS CORP. - for furnishing six brake retarder systems for Fire.Department. _ RESOLUTION NO. 89-424 Ell A. RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BID OF FLORIDA FIRE APPARATUS CORP. FOR FURNISHING SIX (6) BRAKE RETARDER SYSTEMS FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF FIRE, RESCUE & INSPECTION :SERVICES AT A TOTAL PROPOSED COST OT _ $27,762.00; ALLOCATING FUNDS THEREFOR FROM THE 1981 _ FIRE BOND ACCOUNT CODE NO. 313229-289401-810; AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO INSTRUCT THE CHIEF PROCUREMENT OFFICER TO ISSUE A PURCHASE ORDER FOR THIS -EQUIPMENT. r (Here follows'' body.. of, resolution, omitted here and on file in the ,Office 'of the City Clerk.) 7.3 ACCEPT BIDS EMERGENCY VEHICLE FABRICATORS, INC. (EVF) for furnishing labor and materials for refurbishing. eight., rescue-ambul$nces for Fire'-_' �- Department,'F RESOLUTION NO. 89-425 <x A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BID OF EMERGENCY VEHICLE FABRICATORS, INC (EVF) FOR THE FURNISHING OF ,too,R w h AND MATERIALS FOR;,THx REFUR81SiiING OF `EIGHT RESCUE AMBULANCES FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF FIRE RESCUE _ & IN$ ! T10�i RBRVx4$$': AT,==A iOiAI, : VrH * D COSH .4420 18#.17.p A1,.1.00ATING ANDS THSR$FOR 'FROM THU ' I, R$w SQND ' ACCOUNT- COW-.: NQ,.. 31322440.1 ax- �ATJTH�3Rl�lI�G 7'iiE °:CITY�.MANAGHR TO...;iNSBU>;HP 8 P?OCTJ.RIF.NTu-OFFICCER TO ISSUE A PURCHASE ORDER FORS THIS'SERVICE. A z y <iitrrryy' . _ (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.) 7.4 ACCEPT BID: MIRI CONSTRUCTION, INC. - for Downtown Highway Improvement, Phase II (Bid -� RESOLUTION No. 89-426 A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BID OF MIRI CONSTRUCTION, — INC. IN THE PROPOSED AMOUNT OF $396,095.00., BASE - BID OF THE PROPOSAL, FOR DOWNTOWN HIGHWAY - IMPROVEMENT, PHASE II, (BID "A") WITH MONIES THEREFOR ALLOCATED FROM THE 1989 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT ORDINANCE NO. 10521, PROJECT NO. 341115 IN THE AMOUNT OF $396,095.00 TO COVER THE CONTRACT COST; AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT WITH SAID FIRM. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and _= on file in the Office of the City Clerk.) 7.5 AMEND R-88-844 - allocating monies in support of fund-raiser concert for Ex-Presos y Combatientes Politicos Cubanos -Change date of event. RESOLUTION NO. 89-427 A RESOLUTION AMENDING SECTION 1 OF RESOLUTION NO. 88-844, ADOPTED SEPTEMBER 27, 1988 ALLOCATING AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $9,630 TO EX-PRESOS Y COMBATIENTES POLITICOS CUBANOS FROM SPECIAL PROGRAMS AND ACCOUNTS, CONTINGENT FUND, TO COVER THE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE RENTAL AND SUPPORT SERVICES FOR - THE MIAMI CONVENTION CENTER FOR A FUND-RAISER = CONCERT; THEREBY CHANGING THE. DATE OF THE. EVENT FROM JANUARY 28, 1989 TO JUNE 18, 1989, THE PROCEEDS OF SAID EVENT TO BENEFIT THE MIAMI MENTAL HEALTH - CENTER. (Here :follows body of resolution -.,omitted here.:and _ on file -in the Off ice of the City Clerk.) 0 7.6 ACCEPT COMPLETED WORK: C. TARAFA CONTRACTING, INC. - for Fire.Station t_ '.'#8 - Washroom Modification. RESOLUTION NO. 89-428 - } A. RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE COMPLETED; WORK OF C',,. 3 TARAFA CONTRACTING INC. AT ..A TOTAL COST OF $24,437.51 _ FOR: FIRE STATION JJ8: - WASHROOM : MODIFICATION CIP,PROJECT-NO. 313018 AND AUTHORIZING A FINAL PAYMENT OF $4,141.15. (Here follows- body of, resolution, omitted, here and:: on .file- in the Office ,of :ahe City Clerk.) .:. { l 7 7 ACCEPT. COMPLETED WORK; D.E,. 'GIDI & ASSOCIATES,CORP , ,. ( for ,Wmmv6tPa�#� t :.'REs01.uTXQN xa : 69-42s A< RESOLUTION ,ACCr;PTING.j.,THE^,CO #RL$TEA. ;WORK - GIDI AND ASSOCIATES, CORP. AT A TOTAL COST, OF.t;;; $:4s2$i.1Q. ;FOR LUMMUS .PARK PLAZA. PHASIC .I 'CIp PROJECT NO. 331042 AND AUTHORIZING A FINALPAYMENT: �. _ '_ ,+.' 1 •� (HaeQlQcv-:§body of resolution, omitted' ha.re. ans� on 'file in 'the Of ice of. the City..C1 ork art, 0 7.8 SUNSHINE STATE GAMES/DARE COUNTY REGIONAL GAMES event conducted by Coconut Grove Bicycle Club, Inc. - Authorize street closures. RESOLUTION NO. 89-430 A RESOLUTION CONCERNING THE SUNSHINE STATE GAMES/DADE COUNTY REGIONAL GAMES TO BE CONDUCTED BY THE COCONUT GROVE, BICYCLE CLUB, INC. ON JUNE 4, 1989, PROVIDING FOR THE CLOSURE OF DESIGNATED STREETS TO THROUGH VEHICULAR TRAFFIC SUBJECT TO THE ISSUANCE OF PERMITS BY THE DEPARTMENTS OF POLICE AND FIRE, RESCUE AND INSPECTION SERVICES; CONDITIONED UPON THE ORGANIZERS PAYING FOR THE NECESSARY COSTS OF CITY SERVICES ASSOCIATED WITH SAID EVENT AND THE REQUIREMENT THAT THE CITY WILL BE INSURED AGAINST ANY POTENTIAL LIABILITY. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and - on file in the Office of the City Clerk.) 8. (A) PRESENTATIONS, PROCLAMATIONS & SPECIAL ITEMS (See label 6). (B) DONATION OF MARJORIE STONEMAN DOUGLAS PORTRAIT - to be exhibited at City Hall. (See Note below) PROCLAMATION: One Church, One Child Program, a program designed to expedite s the process of adoption for black children and declaring the month of May, One Church, One Child Month. Presentation to the City of Miami Commission by Ann Ziegler Williams Mc Lean of a portrait she painted of Marjorie Stoneman Douglas to be displayed in City Hall -for an indefinite period of time. [Note: Miss Marjorie Stoneman Douglas's portrait was 9. DISCUS: returned, upon request, to Ms. 'Ann'Ziegler Williams'" Outpat. and fi< Mc Lean on April 12, 1990.1 assessr Mayor Suarez: Item 4. Ms. Gloria Rosello: Good morning, my name,is Gloria Rosello, the 'address is 3M NW 7th Street. I just like... it is not a conflict of' matter, ox discussing, or anything. Just for the records, so because you I was just X standing here and hear this and I just like to put my five cents into it. On the physical examinations, this has been the highest bid plus the toxicology - teat that has to be then of course now is given back to the City if he becomes upositive plus that and with a $142, it was $82.42 Plus the.toxicologYPls ±' the Workmen's Compensation figure which I asked the City ,Attorney on 'a previous occasion that I have spoken about this, if we conciliated "ail together,` I mean we, I mean. you, conciliated it all together, it w. cotn0 , downto a much cheaper price and I would just like to state this far kQ Z- record;' Than you. k Ma or' Suarez: Thank` you. Do , you vast to answer? Ms. 'ttene' Jones: ' OK, Rene Jones, Department of Parsonnor MaAagemeiit. 'Mr. 'Pluiniaer: I' move item 4. Mr. De Yur>:e Pefore we:.. iiAj►Or S1#aeiG; Mr. Vice Mayor ; +,r?�'3 Jo Mr. De Yurre: Before we move on that... Mayor Suarez: We have a motion. Do you want to get a second? y _4 Mr. Dawkins: Second for discussion. Mayor Suarez: OK, second for discussion. Vice Mayor. i Mr. De Yurre: How do these numbers reflect to the numbers that we used to work with prior to this change that we have been experiencing in the last — year? Ms. Jones: OK, with this bid, Commissioner, this is one of the best bids that we have received in a long time. We are going from paying $125 for the basic physical for the Fire Department down to $50. Mr. De Yurre: What else are we getting? Me. Jones: What else are we getting? That's your basic physical, the same physical that was done previously when we were paying $125, we are now paying $50. So in addition to the basic physical, there are some optional components that are done as�a part of the physical, that includes a cardiovascular stress -� testing, pulmonary function testing and there are a lot of items that we are doing. -1 Mr. De Yurre: And how do those costs, you know, compare to the prior cost for those particular extra tests that we are talking about? Ms. Jones: The price are going down. In fiscal year 188, we're looking at total medical costs of approximately $330,000 versus... Mr.De Yurre: No, but what I am asking, for example, you said there was 'a pulmonary test? OK, what is the cost of that? What are they charging for that test? Ms. Jones: OK, currently we are paying $75`for the pulmonary function test, The proposed cost is now $20. rrk- Mr, De "Yurre: ` OK, and what else? Just -go"right on"down the line, so I.have = an idea of how much we are saving. F� -' Ms: Jones: With. the hearing test,' we were paying V 5. We will now be"'paying `f $15'. The cardiovascular stress test, we do have an increase. We are going - from one twenty to one twenty-five. The Thallium stress test, which was running`$600 is now $480 and -that's an optional item and it's only done.if the doctor finds something during the cardiovascular stress test, which indicates _$ that`the Thallium stress test would need to be done. OK, we also have what.is called a Muga stress test, that's going from $600 to $480. The Echocardiogram is remaining the same, that would be''$300. The Mammogram is currently $903' , that is;going°to $50 Hepatitis B screening, we have an increase,there..''We'ke currently paying $18 and the 'proposed figure is $18. Now, I understand from the facility that due to the increased cost of the serum that was the reason for the increased price. a Mr. De Yurre: You went from $18 to what now? Ms. Jones: $18 to $82. r 1 Mr: De_ Yurre s To $82? : Hi. Jones: Right. Mr. De Yurre: How many of those do wa have, on the average an�ivallp? Ms Jones: "'Not verq `'many.- ° We 'xould be looking at approximately F� Mr De Xurre: Sa `that is ,•three thousand. OK; go 'ahaidd J fi Ms Jones. OK, with the tetanus shot, we ara going from $2,p0 i�o $20.Q0, �30�� � }�,� ` .again'► we ;<have :AP"'imcrease ==fin the' seta cpxt' and we `s��e ]�ststkih `�► F db ft*VT# ti :! spptaximaty ..5 of thoise, OK,= with theisippglabfB t�tt� w aPeAM yPOgi;x` $16 to $G SigmpidoscQpq, $l5p to Q�75;� hav$ a alight iD�r�e�s�`�A:p� 0 we are only looking at doing maybe one of those. Colonscopy, here again, there is an increase, it is $150 versus $400, but we are looking at doing only one of those. A pulmonary function test, again $75 to $20. - Mr. De Yurre: Ok, I got the picture. Mr. Dawkins: i hear savings, then i come back and hear increases, which sounds to me, and this is just to me, that the savings are offset by the increase in other areas. Now, from listening to you, I think we are going to come put with a negative, but my primary concern is, and I need from the Manager and Mr. Williams to hear this... _ Mayor Suarez: Mr. Manager. - - Mr. Dawkins: And Mr. Williams. Now when you guys bought that contract for cleaning the jail, you had that lady locked into a specific rate. If she wants to renew next year and the next year and the next year, she has to renew at the rate that you have her now and I keep telling you over and over that's the only contract I ever see and I've ever seen and come up here with that, OK? Now, I'm going to read you the wording in this contract. Mr. Odio: That was taken out, Commissioner. Mr. Dawkins: 'Three years with an option to extend for two additional one year periods of a .total proposed first year cost. It doesn't say that each year that we add, you want to do it for the same $244,000. See, and why is that H that black contract is the only one that comes up here with that locked into it, sir? - _- Mr. Odio: That was taken out, Commissioner. I wish we could do it with all - the contracts. If I could three year contracts with guaranteed prices for Three years, I would do that. 'Mr. Dawkins: Yes, but why shaft one... - Mr. Odio: No, that was taken out, Commissioner. -t Mr. Dawkins: Yes, but OK, I just wanted to point out to you Mr. Manager, that 4 that is the only one that you had to come up here with and... ` Mr. Odio: What this contract is doing, in fact it is guaranteeing the first R _ .year price for five years. That means that five years from now, you .are going .to.be:paying the same. I' :Mr. Dawkins: Mr. City Attorney. Mr. Fernandez: Yes, sir. Mr. Dawkins: Read the last underlined three lines and tell me your legal interpretation, if that means for one year, or that means a price for five years, off the top of your head, just a legal opinion. - Fernandez: My .legal opinion, knowing what went behind in the drafting of e nis resolution is that that is to be a fixed priced for five years. I.don't - know what underlined language you are referring to... Mr. Dawkins: All right, I'll read it to you and then you interpret it for tne, i -4: OK? Three years, this is three . years with an , option . to.,; extend. for tarp additional one year. periods, for a total proposed; first ye,*r, cost Kew,3 o read.; in there, year cost. It doesn't say, anything - abput.,_the cQ$t: — ; ,first the second .year, the ,third year or the fourth year. , ; It says prgpo;ed. first — year . cost. c - ' ra that th s ices Llr. Fernandez• Mr. Dawkins ..I will rsdraft t, :to,, insu r the, _VTice _:for the .five yepra�of-the life of -the, contract,,°s try. P i# Mr.' Dawkins • Mr. City Attorney, I want whatever thisColliniasfon fs comfortable with, I'm comfortable with. f "` Mr. Fernandez: Does that mean.. f _ Mr. Dawkins: And I will say it again, the only reason I raised the issue is that the only contract that has ever been before this Commission with a locked in rate, has been that one with the lady who cleans the jail. Mayor Suarez: Mr. Manager, a lot of times when we see other contracts, there is an option to renew and it doesn't specify that it has to be with a locked in price for some reason and we noticed that whet renewal times comes around, they are on the agenda for a new price negotiated, I'm sure properly, but it is not a locked in price in other cases. Can we get a standard policy for all consulting agreements that they will have, unless this Commission is recommended by yourself and finds that we should not somehow lock in the price, which I can't imagine why we wouldn't want to, that we'd have a standard policy. Mr. Odiot I'd like to get contracts with locked in prices. Mayor- Suarez: But applying standards for all consulting, management contracts, agreements of this sort. Mr. Odio: We do try, but there are some that you cannot do it. Mayor Suarez: Well, bring those up specifically and explain why not when the time comes' but in the absence of that, it should be a standard policy so it doesn't reflect against any particular contractors, whether black or otherwise. We do get the impression that the only time that we see this locked in price has been the last couple of times where it has been a black contractor. That's... Mr. Odio: No, this one is... Mr. Ron Bierman: I'd like to address the Commission if I can. My name is Ron Bierman, I'm the administrator of the 'Outpatient Center at Mercy'. For the record, Mr. Dawkins,•and with.all due respect, I'd like to state that,when'We submitted this bid, .it was with the intention of locking in these prices for the duration of the agreement. Mr." Dawkins: But it does not say that, OK? Your intentions are not in this legal rendering. Mayor Suarez: `Not very clear, if they are in there. Mr. 'Dawkins. Now, if that is you intentions, I -defer this "until this afternoon and you bring it back with that language in it, so that when we pass .it, I pass it with that language. I move that this come back this afternoon. Mayor Suarez: The item is tabled until this afternoon. Mrs. Kennedy: Second. Mr. Plummer; Just for the record, Mr. . Mr. Dawkins; Go ahead, Mr.... Mr. Plummer: Mr. City Attorney... Mr. Fernandez: Yes, sir. Mr Plummer: Should i recluse my vote on this matter?'' I` dq" sit" as e; board member of e. the `Outpatient Clinic.' This clinic ,doesn't mean any financial benefit 'to me one way or the other, probably a little bit more work, but afar `'the 'record 'I'm stating that I am a member of Mercy #ioapital_ . Qutpatiet , Lr :Gliz}ic, and;asking,you whether 'I should recluse my vote', on: this matter. Mr, ,Fernandez: You may however, by. makingclear on the record that u ha�re absolutsl ' no � gain" -from' servin ' `on y 8 8 this board, it would be our, decision to Y , participate or no f 1{ h f rM l W 43 �S_.s .. .... _. F-. .. .. .. - -' - t - ,.K. .,.., tom:.. � ,cZ. �r ,_�� �F.t•3d — ..:.-_..---------_--------------.----------------------_------------.....�..� r..-..� 10. PRESENTATION. PRESENTATION: to City of Miami Commission by Greater Miami Chamber of Commerce of International Poster entitled "The Dropped Bowl with Scattered Slices and Peels" by Claes Oldenburg, presented by Francisco Lorie. NOTE FOR THE, RECORD: Commission Plummer raises a question concerning book prepared by Finance Department which is immediately thereafter clarified by Administration. 11. APPROVE REQUEST FROM AIRPORT SEVEN 5040 LIMITED PARTNERSHIP - to reschedule due. date of first payment in the repayment of Airport Seven ' Urban Development Action Grant (UDAG), accepting an additional 6% interest payment.for such•extension of time. - ---------------------------------------------------------------- ------ Mayor Suarez: Commissioner Dawkins, item 7. - s Mr. Dawkins: Mr. Manager, anybody, I see where they are requesting to move _ the payment for 1989 be moved from January 31 to September 30th for the first - payment. Does that mean you move the second payment to September 30th, or it' e still due.. Mr. Odio: No sir, it , is still due the same time, but: this -;is just • for the first time. Mr. Dawkins: All right now, in the event that they do not have it, and come` up and want another extension, what's the recourse? $ Mr. Frank Castaneda: We have a.second mortgage on.the property, Commissioner, '<v' for the amount of the... ' Mr. Dawkins: See, you are hearing me, and you are.not answering.my,question. _ Mr. Castaneda: Foreclose. Mr. Dawkins: Beg pardon? Mr. Odiot They have to close on the property. _ Mr'. Castaneda: Foreclose. Mr. Odio:-:.Foreclose. Mr. Dawkins: Have we told them that we do not intend to move the second A4j" payment from January. 1, that. they've got ; to c-ome 'up:..with.': the-. `480'00,1 . - . , _ . Se tember and .also $80,000 in January? y Mr. 'Odio: Yes, ..sir.'": F t t Mr Ceat"a 4a• Yes, Commissioner M7C,, DAwkis i AK, thank you Move its Wt 1,f. Vt l�ay�pruae�. It's bean movedr:: se�pded. , An►,,,d �eu$sioz� Zt k i lh! l .' i i'>✓ r L;' i. A; } ?,,'. t• °�,q y! 1a.i 'id' ro �'� ! t =��, �r�$ � - � M1 _- C s The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Dawkins, who moved its adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 89-431 - A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO APPROVE A REQUEST FROM THE AIRPORT SEVEN 5040 LIMITED PARTNERSHIP FOR RESCHEDULING THE DUE DATE FROM JANUARY 31, 1989 TO SEPTEMBER 30, 1989 OF THE FIRST PAYMENT OF $80,918.59, IN THE REPAYMENT OF THE AIRPORT SEVEN URBAN DEVELOPMENT ACTION GRANT (UDAG). AND TO ACCEPT AN ADDITIONAL SIX PERCENT (62) INTEREST PAYMENT BY SAID FIRM ON SAID AMOUNT FOR SUCH EXTENDED TIME. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Commissioner Kennedy, the resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote: AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Commissioner Rosario Kennedy Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins Vice Mayor Victor De Yurre Mayor Xavier L. Suarez NOES: None. ABSENT: None. ------------------------------------------------------- APPROVAL OF MINUTES: ON MOTION DULY MADE AND SECONDED, THE MINUTES OF THE REGULAR CITY COMMISSION MEETING OF FEBRUARY 9 AND MARCH 3, 1989 AND THE PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION MEETING OF FEBRUARY 23, 1989 WERE UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED. ------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------- NOTE` FOR THE RECORD: At this point, Commissioner Plummer - announces that he will have to leave at 6:30 p.m. Commission" agrees Consent Agenda shall be treated as one item for purposes of determining length of the agenda. -------------------------------------------------- -- k 12. (A) 1989 MIAMI/BAHAMAS GOOMBAY FESTIVAL - Authorize street closures, r pedestrian mall, permit to sell beer and wine, prohibit retail peddlers. - (B) REQUEST MORE SECURITY FOR COCONUT GROVE DURING WEEKENDS. r Mayor Suarez: Billy. t Mr.- -Billy Rolle-.' Billy Rolle, 3430 Williams Avenue, _'executivii., irector `of 't7q� ti ' Miami/Bahamas ' Goombay Festival' -Committee.,' We are here to have. the. resolVttim _ _ for closing of streets approved. We have a problem on expansion.. YQu- granted usi" those expansions -from'iGrand to U.S. l for two years. We rejected- hem because of finances. This year the °board aaats'to do'it bec they -,think they :caii 'make ' it, but -being - the director, I donut 'thialc we: h444 _ funds to:turn`that corner for this year. Mayor Suarez': So what do you want to reduce back a little bit, is x Mr. 'l'lunraQr: -" lid are --talking about from-32 to 37 Avenue on w ..,raWdl n Mr. Rolle: Right. Mr, Plummer: Have you got all of those sold? Mr. Rolle: I don't think so. We have little differences. John is the ' f th president for this time. I am the director, I don It vote, I work or e board. I sort of gathered whether they have the money or not, and I don't see the money. Mr. John Williams: Excuse me, my name is John Williams. I'm the president this year of the Miami/Bahamas Goombay Festival Committee. We've been working actively this year to expand the festival and to improve overall. They have a lot of exciting things planned for this year's festival. In fact, we're planning and the board this year sees this festival as being the best festival of. the history of the Goombay Festivals. One of the things that we have definitely been concerned about is security, as you all know, with the Metrorail being adjacent to Douglas Road and U.S. 1 at this time, the major portion of the participants attending the festival will come through that route. As you recall, last year we had some problems with that, at the end of the festival, with people going back through that route. Now, we had protection with our Police Department on Grand Avenue. There were no problems on Grand Avenue, because we had that route secured. The problem is that at the end, at the end of the festival where anywhere from 60 to 70 percent of the people attending that festival will be coming down Douglas Road. We see a very strong need to have that portion of the festival secured, so that's why we are looking to expand on that route, mainly for security reasons. There are some activities we're planning there, placing a booth there, trying; to increase the security and the visibility of the Police Department along that route. Mayor Suarez: I'm at a loss to try to figure out what the problem isi if -any. Mr. Plummer: OK, you are cutting off a main thoroughfare, which is Douglas Road. Mayor Suarez: From where to where? ;s Mr. Plummer: Well, -he's proposing to•go from Grand to Dixie;on Douglas: 'Road: They have already got closed as norm on Grand Avenue, OK? Now,•what... Mayor Suarez: The entire Douglas from Grand to Dixie -would be closed, :off? Mr. Plummer: No, that's not what they're asking. They're asking from Grand to Dixie to close that off, in addition to Grand to McDonald, so whatyouare in effect doing is closing down Lwo main arterials. Now, his concern is a very good concern, based on what happened last year, and many, many people were in. a: dangerous: situation and did get ripped off walking -from Grand -down to the Metrorail. Now, I think what needs to be done rather than closing the street off is to instruct the Manager to be make sure that there is adequate police.. protection in those four blocks;'between Grand, and Dixie. That is -.a legitimate concern, but -I've got a�problem when you_start-cutting downron our main arterials and that's what you are doing and I -0 ink that's what creating the problem Mr. Williams: Well, we've been working extensively with the Police.Department ; in looking- at the flow of traffic 'and we directed: -traffic: throughi:thero- } r_ During the course -of the :festival,. theamount of :.traffic that: actually:': comet ry through `there can - be diverted -very easily without..creating a.,,problem in there;, that's directing them over to Le Jeune Road or.•back<,to ahe':.east i Mayor.Suarez: Let me ask lieutenant. about that. Is that .the came_ for poth s McDonald: and; Douglas, or'.just for Douglas? 'Ai Mr. PlummerNo, it stops at McDonald.AIR err' Mr..Dawkins -u-0h- -thank. you, lieutenant Mr. tPlummer I'm not 4,f Iieutenant, I.'m a,>general. mayor.YcSuarez; I mean, ,would you, expect the traffic flow, to" be OK you +�'o �`�„��' botht-Mc�?onald, anii-•Douglas; oruet�Douglas? l - v 9 Lt. Longueira: Oh I think if I adding Douglas it's going to add a problem -1 because to most people. Le Jeune is far out of the way, I mean, it's on the west boundary of the City and everybody in the South Grove, you know, goes a straight up Douglas to Dixie, a lot of people, rather than go through the _ business area. You close that part of Douglas, we have to figure out where we going to divert them and the only place is probably going to be south through - the residential area, Kumquat, or somewhere there, unless we divert theta west - on Grand. - Mr. Plummer: Or on Grand Avenue to send them back to Dixie. Mayor Suarez: Back around the other side. Is McDonald closed anyhow, is that _ what you are saying? Lt. Longueira: No, the intersection of McDonald and Grand is closed, because that's where the event goes, along Grand from Douglas to Commodore and up Commodore. Mayor Suarez: What is the street that he showed there horizontally, Frank, that you were showing horizontally there that you are proposing to close? Oh that is Grand What is this? OK, that's Grand, all right, I'm sorry. How about part of it, does it makes any sense to block off part of Douglas? -I mean, do we have an in between solution there? Mr. Plummer: If you block it off at all, you are, you know, actually, you... Mayor Suarez: You may as well do the whole thing. And you recommend that you _ do. block off Douglas? Mr. Williams: Yes, and I guess I'm asking again that the Commission also look _ at the fact that in order to... in our growth process in improving theoverall festival, the expansion is a part of that. We are planning in anumber'of if ways to -improve the overall, site, to improve the entertainment in stretching the site also, that we can try to develop a site that's not only attractive to the general public, but also make it -a fun kind of'event. Mayor Suarez: Let me ask you a question. Suppose we closed off Douglas, - z` would: you be :willing. to have enough people with equipment and acting as supplemental security to the police force that people coming from the Metrorail station all ,the way down into Grand would feel that there was a` constant presence along the street, of security personnel? - so identified, = and you know? Mr. Williams: Our plans are to do just that. We're going to have some booths,. we are going to.have entertainment along.that route. Mayor: Suarez: But I am thinking more of people with arm bands and - ID's and tee shirts:.or... Mr. Williams: Well, we have security along with the Police Department, that we station additional policemen along that route, the whole route. In fact... Lt>:Longue ira; Mayor, that extension involves about $160000 ,additional dollars in police security, ,on_top of what was on the main route. Mr. Plummer: Well, lot me ask another question. What about your Saturday. night;:you know, that I've ..asked you to talk about, the diveeilon oa Saturday' xfp= c night ,of: Main -Highway that is now sent :down Charles and .Elizabeth, backAx,�o #� Grand?-�.. What happens to that traffic? You're doing,' that - on ;Friday and; Saturday, nights. fiw r N Mr, Vilaiamse Well, this is basically Saturday night when we have the etxeets};s��" - closed: Mr PiwWers Np,,-no,: I'm asking the; Police Department; ,i►hat afire, i!o S� Ag too, 'ay i a..witfi those ears? ,- Because-: today; .;or, ovary aaekerid{ on' a� d :y rn3¢ht Ado ° �, Saturday `A ght,�Ktraffic-.-is ..diverted; off oP °M�In #i ghwaq onto Chaxl+�s ov��' � Charles -to" Hibiscus, or E1 izabath, and, buck' Grand : Now, If `- ypu' t .onto , .clt►a :yeah Grsnda;off; ;ghat are you. going, to do with Y 8 $ �hr ����.• — Tt, loog4eiaat We'&l have'to divert them'west to Dixie, dike you sa'Id: r ' a �r el "i�Su,RO' • - ,'y �V =A Mr. Plummer: You can't go to Dixiel Mr. Odios but there is something we are missing, Commissioner. ;1 Mr. Plummer: You can't go to Dixie on Charles, it doesn't go all the way through. - Mr. Odio: I don't believe they have the money that it would cost them to close the additional street* and that's very important also. It's going to cost you a lot more money. Mr. Williams: We would not plan on going unless va had the funds to do so. Mr. Odio: But you don't have it from us. Mr. Williams: That's a problem too that we are going to have to address, but we have the funds based on what we've got of County funds from sponsorships. Mr. Odio: Right, but you are not getting additional funds from us unless they choose so. Mr. Williams: We know, we have gotten the money from you. We couldn't do the festival if we depended on the money that we are getting from you guys. Mr. Odio: I know, but that's what I mean. Mayor Suarez: All right, let's clarify then, because of having an argument about something that has already been decided. I would have no problem — approving it for one year, subject to the Manager being satisfied that this is - not... that you've got the finances to carry it out. N Mr. Odio: I don't believe they have the money to carry this out because they will have to pay additional police officers, solid waste... Mr. Williams: I would like to know... I don't understand how you can. determine that. _ a Mr. Odio: He'll tell you, go ahead and tell him what it would cost. r. =:. Mr:' Plummere I'll you'how.you determine it, you pay up front. < Mr.— Williamsr, Well,. that's what;we Iva done every year, ive, pay. ;;Every year we've sponsored this, -we've had to: pay up , front. T i- Mr. Plummer: So you'd have.to pay.the,additional $16,000 if... Mr. :Williams,, Every year, we know that. We paid the money before we've done the festival. Mr. Plummer: Well r before F' yes, that's what he. t� Mr►:Williams: We realize that.. We knowthat.,-we are going to have to,.pay,.aome money. I would hope that you would let, you know, when, we•.are;:planning this; yes,, we intend to pay .all of those ,responsibilities from a fiaancial Y standpoint..that we have. Mr.;- Odio:; - don`•t understand, because one of... Mr.. Rolle here is saying one A Yr thing- and ,you are, saying -another, sr, 1—can: only. -,go by: what -..be +istt toi.liaaV`mo thav:you. don'thave the -money to- do., it'. Mr..:WiTliams: Wel`l,. I woul� like to remind`Yqu,.:that Mr. Rohwalat ;tor�cihlt: -- Mayor Suarez: Xe 'don'V,vant• t.o get: Into _thoee; -arguments. l r rMa>Aaager, do :the taotiOn subject to ° your:.; b¢ ag ':;absolutely. - sati: f $e4d - that ;. it can h e financed: We're not..,. that's..it-.cost effective and the cost-const'raintswns � met. Is ,that t6chnical -enough?,; AQ. yQu ,want to mover fit., :son body? a .� �� ° # 5 Mr. Aawkins: Move Scp. oa Mr►w �e Yu't ¢=SACOndt , -F�C.n :Y. ,.. ' ..: F. s' .. .. .... i t.. ,. .+. ... _ ., .s: , .v .,.._.. .... J,_ a �$�.•.:7:'.ri'�'�e�.`.�z�+ . ._ -- Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded. Any discussion? Call the roll. The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Dawkins, who movLd its adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 89-432 A RESOLUTION CONCERNING THE 1989 MIAMIJBAHAMAS GOOMBAY FESTIVAL TO BE HELD JUNE 2, 3 AND 4, 1989, PROVIDING FOR THE CLOSURE OF DESIGNATED STREETS TO THROUGH VEHICULAR TRAFFIC; ESTABLISHING A PEDESTRIAN MALL SUBJECT TO THE ISSUANCE OF PERMITS BY THE DEPARTMENTS OF POLICE AND FIRE, RESCUE AND INSPECTION SERVICES; AUTHORIZING A TWO-DAY PERMIT TO SELL BEER AND WINE IN CONNECTION WITH SAID EVENT SUBJECT TO THE ISSUANCE OF ALL PERMITS REQUIRED BY LAW; FURTHER ESTABLISHING AN AREA PROHIBITED TO RETAIL PEDDLERS DURING THE PERIOD OF THE EVENT; CONDITIONED UPON THE REQUIREMENT THAT THE CITY WILL BE INSURED AGAINST ANf POTENTIAL LIABILITY AND UPON ORGANIZERS PAYING FOR ALL NECESSARY COSTS OF CITY SERVICES ASSOCIATED WITH SAID EVENT BEYOND THE COSTS ALLOCATED BY RESOLUTION 088-911 ADOPTED OCTOBER 6, 1988. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Commissioner De Yurre, the resolution was passed and adopted by the following votes AYES: Commissioner Rosario Kennedy Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins Vice Mayor Victor De Yurre Mayor Xavier L. Suarez NOES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. ABSENT: None. - COMMENTS MADE DURING.ROLL CALL: Mr. Plummer: I'm sorry, I have to vote no. I cannot vote that, I just don't think;, that you can bring in the adequate security that is necessary of the problems that exist between Grand and Dixie to adequately provide the public. Yt e I don't think $16,000 worth of policemen is adequate,.plus the fact you .are < closing a second main arterial for two full days and I just can't do it, I'm ter: sorry, I have to vote no and I've been a big supporter of Goombay and I still am a good supporter, but I can't do that. Mayor Suarez: Yes, and let me tell you one thing, in the Calle Ocho, they have a: large force of volunteers who :have their- shirts on, .not Just a tee shirt, 'try to get. them .the nicest thing you can get them, so they look as official as possible, walky-talkies, and we'll help you with the financing of any of the equipment that you need. You know voluntarily, the individual Commissioners have them as visible as possible so that the people wilhave that feeling of security as they_ walk.down._from the Metrorail.. r COMMENTS MADE AFTER ROLL CALL: Mr: 1i113ams: We -have volunteer forces,' conunuaity- security that. a provide every year and they do a good Job of that.y Mayor Suarez s And remember, that we .ve had;; problem on the final day .of the festival$ precisely in this area, so... r} Mr. Williams: Well,. once again, ifyou remember now, ,those- problems we dad i were .not on`the: site, .they were; problems that were, ,related. Mayor Suarers I understand, but this year, they are,,,, #n gQg J because they are;. goi ng to. be. t _. ^_ �� v;�ux� Mr, tiilliamss That..*. -why fo,;going02 so that we 'con., i ooatx�nl ae tm a >- Itt.Ve dag't-.°have: to come ba k:wik.hs,thistkincl.;op blew yap f I t.:.f MAY 1�_Ay s ♦ .5. '�•9A.li '" ;•� i i +,- .. ,. .. , .: i.t .:1 �. i }. j`ri.ri Y- .!� � tt,?'#iU:h�M�,#� .� - Mayor Suarez: Precisely, and that you have that security until everybody has gone hotme, not just until the hours of the festival, until everybody has gone horde to sleep. Mr. Villiamse We're working very closely with the Police Department on that. Mayor Suarez: very good. Mr. Dawkins: And I'd like for you to know that I am only concerned that we have no more problems with Goombay than we have with the Coconut Grove Art Festival, so if you are going to start talking about problems, and when you come back comparing problems I got with Gootmbsy, be sure you compare them with the number of problems that I had with the Coconut Grove Art Festival. :.!!r. lii111 ms: Thank you. OK. Mr. Plummere No question. Mr. Mayor, may I inquire... Mr. Manager, I asked of you some time ago about the problems that are existing, this doesn't,. you live there, so you might want to hear it, but it doesn't affect Goombay. I've asked you to look in and to recommend to this Commission of that diversion of traffic on Friday and Saturday night. I think that we have experienced between 40 and SO robberies since I last asked the question. People don't _ know the neighborhood, they don't know the area, they get lost and an unfortunate situation happens. Now, .I am still asking, there has been at least 40 robberies since I asked the last time to look into it and I don't know how many more is going to occur before some recommendation comes forth to try to elisinate that problem. 3f you continue•vith that diversion, I think that you are mandated that you're going to have to put security along that .route. You have a policeman at Charles and Main -mow that divirts it. There is to 'other policeman to show .them where to _go,. there • is -to .other policemat for security and it .,is causing some tremendous problems. .I hope that even before the -next Commission meeting that something 'will be done about it`, because it's bad. Mrs. Kennedy: Lieutenant, how many police officers 'do we have during the weekend in the Grove? Mr. Plummer: 42, on"Triday.and Saturday night, you got 42. And by the way, Joe;'3f-you•have the opportunity, since all of those policemen'are'being paid_ . ti;a and one=half=- am"I correct? It. Lonaueirs: I believe so. Mr. Plummer: That's correct, it's overtime. I would like to see if the number of those policemen can be cut down. Mayor Suarez: If it is 42, that's a huge 'percentage of the total number of officers th6t are' Outon a' weekend'.> Mr., Plummer: And it's a huge` percentage, Mr. Mayor, of " the overtime] -'of is $1500000 that was mot budgeted last year. i3. iAD "1= -CHARTER .REvnv COmlITTEE DISTRICT .RLECTIONS)s Allocate 310,000 ,budget:' : a very short period of time. We tried to do the best we could and ire proceeded to the first hearing based solely on press releases given by the City Manager's office and quite frankly, the turnout was dismal. That is probably the same turnout, or similar turnout to what the County Charter geview Committee experienced. We don't believe that it is a reason to cause apathy on the part of the voters, because we all well knoll that in the last County election, the issue of districting and electoral reform was a paramount issue, but for some reason people are not staking their way to these hearings and the committee last night felt that we needed funds with which to get the message out to the people among other things, and I understand Mayor, your position with respect to money. I will tell you that it was a very adamant... Mayor Suarers Well, I was thinking of another alternative too, which is public service messages on radio. Did anybody think of those? Mr. Portnosdo. Me triad .that, ftyor..:: -I will .tall• you what, -As -the discussions that we had, my position was,'I've change since then, my position was that we didn't need money, we would do the best we could, trying to ourselves go to radio stations, television, and so forth. I've given that a great deal of thought, and quite frankly, I don't think that is practical. We are asking the Commission to allow a complete budget of $10,000, the majority of which... Mr. Plummer: Move it. Mr. Dawkins: Second. We said that we were going... Mr. Plvwwr: That's through the City contract now, because we get a better price on bulk- rates, so that is money to be used for advertising, but I -..strongly recommend you go through the City Clerk, because our prices would be •.different , than .if _you went..ia as an individual to get .an ad. Mr. Portuondo: We intend to do that. Let me just say that not all the money will be for promotional purposes, but we expect most of it will. Mr. Plummer: That amount for advertising, go through the City Clerk. Mr.'Portuondo: OK. Mayor Suarezz Yes, advertising may be a better term than .-promotional. Any, discussion from the C=mission? Not? Mr. De-Tuire: Yes. Mayor Suarez: Vice Mayor. Mr. De Yurre: I feel that I was... last night I went to that meeting and I think that the City staff outnumbered the residents like three or four to one. I think that there were about four or five or six individuals that actually came to the meeting and if we are going to go through a different process -of advertising or actively going out there to let the people know what these meetings are going to be about and when they are going to be at, I think that we need to schedule another meeting for the Hispanic community so that they may be able to attend it this time, knowingly, if that was the problem, why .they didn't aMw up to .begin with 'last night. !!r. Olmedillos Mr. Mayor, Mr. Vice Mayor, thl only thing that I granted to -,add #` to it is`that` the' meetings were 'not advertised, there was a press -r$isa=e=in the'�Hispanic paper, Diaro"Las Americas, There was a press release-�3a the H 'Neighbors, a press release in The Miami Herald itself and there were -telephone. calls made specifically to individuals in the community. Mayor Suarez: I am very interested in knowing; this is no;ref1,ectionion yCt!U S why Planning would have anythini"to do with this? �{ Mr. Olmedillo: Do you want me to explain'it? Mayor $us' ezc Yet, ='if' you can do` it real quick. . What tie Pl"sun irig: s`.int",erect in 'our Chdcter Reeiew efforts?_$ �J Mr: Aawkins: OK a you know... I_rm sorry, go aherd `r 21sy T• Mr, De Yurret Well, basically I'd like to have another meeting set up then for the Hispanic Community - Mr. Dawkins: You know, if we are to sell this, which we are supposed to be trying to do, you are going to have to sell this, just like you are getting out there trying to get reelected. Now, you can put anything and anything you want to put, but the way I get the vote out is with a sound truck through the neighborhood and I do that in Little Havana and I do that in Overtown and Liberty City. Now, I have not gone down Brickell Avenue yet, but with ray opponent I may have to go down Brickell Avenue, so I think I agree with Victor that we have to try another method of alerting the people to a meeting and then I think we'll get a better response, so Bill knows well how to cut tapes and you got over there. Mayor Suaret: I had missed the Vice Mayor's remarks when Commissioner Plummer over here was reminding us of the last set of hearings on the issue of redistricting and he said that the only person that came to all the meetings was myself, because I was running for office and I guess there is some truth to that remark. Mr. Plummer: Jack Campbell, take note. Mayor Suarez: And I also have some great maps, if you remember them on the districts that were being proposed by the former Mayor and certain humorous implications from those, but Mr. 'Vice Mayor, your idea and Commissioner Dawkins' is that we should reschedule? --Mr. Ze.7urra2 I thlak we should reschedule for the Hispanic community because If -only... It's as if we didn't have a meeting last night. If four people showed_up.,. 72 Mayor Suaresa Are vo •going to 2vse our Charter. -Review Cossaisston if ire keep y forcing you to,.. — Mr. :Portuondo: I believe I speak on behalf of all the members of the committee and we do not want the City Commission dictating to us how we are _= going to schedule our meetings. I don't think that's your intention. Yes, we believe we need to have as many meetings as possible. We only have four weeks i{ - and we had to have public hearings and we had to have working sessions and the _ best that we could do was three. We scheduled... !Mayor Suarez: - Whereare the other two that are left? The one was at Niami High and one... now you have... Mr. Portuondo: May 18th at Edison High School and May 22nd right here in City Hall. Mr. Dawkins: All right, I would... I mean, you say you don't want us to tell you, but I am going to suggest, OK? - that you go back in the Spanish. - community`and 'alert them of the two other places where you are holding the hearings and let them know that they can come there also if they want to be ` heard: Mr. Portuondo: Well, I'm sure our advertisement is going to be directed to all areas of the City sad Qdvise.tbem of All the meetings that we are going to have.: ; ar Mr..Dawkinsv I'still say I makes suggestion to you, sir, that:you alert _that neighborhood that we are having two other hearings and that they can come -if they` -didn't come to..., Y t.. ; Mayor-. Suarez: Yes, a special effort" made to the people that might',have co�p�e , -to hs Miami High meeti because of roxicait AB' p y that -the ,other two art 'availablw- "This. is .not too" far- from Miami High righC 4 E: w ems• Mr. De Yurres Yes, but the thing is, how many people that live; 'actually.rkrow how to'get- here? And you' far aou "Mow CQsox�t�tq, r 4 Grove,' to a: great degree of the Hispanic ";community is € ore �gn territory:,:`- _ throughout ,the ye it' ' it has been loss and lass, bVt you: knotp,t'a mod the ft` same thing an having it down at Fiagierleme»taa!!'sFor. th4 �lsgatni poops somewhare"ra gngthose lines. My sealing is that 'thoy are goit}g to:" fe,�l ayt..They are going to say; now' all of a sudden, 'you know, t what !t wms .� 2 " 4 ��yyt A yr{ h us, for us to have our meetings, there was no money, is money to advertise and to get the rest of the trying to avoid that type of feeling. and all of a sudden there community but. I am just Mayor Suarez: And as long as we are giving suggestions, there is a very, central area of the City that is also highly Hispanic and also partly black and it's always useful to consider, if you Mould, the possibility of having hearings in Allapattah. Just think of that as being a very central area of the City where people that right conceivably run for office, you know, might come from there. I don't think we've had a Commissioner serving from Allapattah in many, many years. Mr. Portuondo: We had two last night from Allapattah. ' Mr. De _Turr*s . They sre going to be running. Mayor 9aurez: `DK, we 'have a motion and a second. Call the roll please. j Mr. De Yurre: OK, hold it. 7 Mayor Suarez: Mr. Vice Mayor. Mr. De Yurre: And also, as to the time factor, the 6:00 o'clock, you might like to revisit that, where maybe 7:00 o'clock is a better startup time. Mr. Portuondo: I will consider that. Mayor Suarez: One time too, there was a hearing held on -a Saturday, that vas - kind of an interesting one. That's another one of the ones I attended. I think you went to a few of those too. Mr. Plummer: Find some w" to ereate-a little cbntroveray and then The herald will write about it tremendously. Mr. Portuondo: Commissioner, perhaps you would like to go on a talk show and take'opposite views. ;P Mayor -Suarez: Call the roll before.... (THEREUPON ROLL CALL WAS MADE,' COMMISSIONER DAWKINS'33EING ABSENT.' 'ROLT. CALL WAS REPEAM .UTER#'THE VOTE BEING UNANIMOUS WITH ALL ME RR PRESENT." SEE NOTION 69-433 HEREIltBELOW.) Mr. Portuondo: Thank you very much. , Mayor Suarez: Do we have agreement on... Mr. De Yurre; Now, on the same vein... Mayor Suarez: Mr. Vice Mayor. -" Mr. De ' Yurre : ... I wanted' to make `a statement, and I'm - not f= going `to be, moving anything, but I think that it is important that it be stated`.that'when we are talking about Charter review and districting, which is something`is"of` uppermost importance in the City of Miami, you know, I felt kind of bado to. tell you .the truth, and it has no reflection on ,tire ambers that are on . tbis con Ittee because I respect them. I•think'°that these are five individuals"'thaf will `do an -excellent job; but Just` the fact that three of `the "#ivs "dan't :live In-. the, City of Miami`, I thinkbothers me' 'personaliy and bothers'` a lot ` ofT= people because I "think to' a -great degree it - Is" a - slap in the face to".the z . ,s members of this' community that - you know, you' can't find residents of th`e°`Clty�= of Niami'to serve on this=con�ission'and on this' board or'aommit-6 and` wanted" to -'mike :that statement that you know, I thought that thought it: was ,,� never mentioned that it would have been five individuals from, :you know at, : L- are residents of the City of Miami.' Mr. Portuondo. !!sy I' be allowed to respond to "that's *Mr, Ma�yor7 't X M y } fi Mayor Suarez: 1 wouldn't. 4 Mr. #'ortuondo: OKgi;� 23 �Z - Mr. Plummer: No, I will. I have to tell you that it was not an honest mistake, but an honest call of judgement. My appointment was Huber Parsons and I make no excuses, no justifications. It was my opinion, in my mind when I appointed him, of his long standing involvement in this community and I just naturally assumed that that involvement was because he lived in this City and that's the reason I appointed him to that committee. I did not know, if anything, it is my fault that I did not ask, that it should have been a City resident, but I just naturally assumed that because of his long standing Involvement in this community that he was a resident, because, he comes out more than a lot of residents do, so I think that even though he does not live in the City, I think I have made as good an appointment as there could be made by my position. Mr. Portuondo: All the members of the committee agree with that, Commissioner. Let me just say one final thing about that. Some of us on the Committee. I think most of us on that committee. -are now disturbed that we have not even made our recommendations and already there is some cynicism on _ behalf of some people with respect to the recommendations that ultimately will be made. And some persons feel that issues such as whether a person lives in the City of Miami is really to detract from the merits of our recommendation. Ultimately, it is this Commission who is going to be responsible for what they propose to the voters and ultimately it will be the voters who make the decisions as to what they want to do with respect to members of this Commission and to this government and therefore I would feel, and I urge s everyone to try to refrain themselves from making those sorts of lateral issues which are going to detract from the commission's work. There have only been two articles so far in the Miami Herald and I find them quite disturbing. One article said nobody showed up for the hearing and the other article said that there were complaints from some of the Commissioners or other persons Ahat souse of the people on the committee didn't live in the City of. Miami. I -think we are doing, a disservice Ito the people of the City of .Miami if we ; begin to do those sorts of things which could be viewed as political maneuvering and ' discredit the recommendations which are going to be made. Mayor Suarez: You will find that as you try to do good work. in this community, that you don't always get reflected in the pages of the local newspaper, the effort and the good will that goes into it and we can't change that and what they choose to print is up to them, but I understand the Vice Mayor's concern to the extent possible that all of us -appoint people who live in the City of Miami. I had thought that Huber Parsons lived in the City. INAUDIBLE BACKGROUND'COMMENTS NOT ENTERED INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD. Mayor Suarez: I knew you didn't, because I know you, but as Commissioner Plummer said about his appointment, I couldn't think of anybody better., Mr. Vice Mayor, than Mr. Portuondo, because of his long standing involvement in electoral law. I could have appointed other people but... Mr. De Yurre: Well, I... - Mayor Suarez: ... since we are going to make the ultimate decision and then the voters of the City of Miami, I don't know that this poses much of a problem, but I understand your concern. I typically appoint people from the City. 21r. Me Yurre: You know, the point is and I've stated it, I think that we couldn't find more qualified people, I got no problem with that board. I'm ; sure they are going to make the proper judgement and the proper, recommendations, but you know, I just feel that some people in tho community that are actively involved, they feel you know, slighted that they weren't' x� Ar considered, they weren't appointed, living in the City. That's theonly point. _;• I Wanted to make. Mr. Plumper; Well, I think it also should be noted that the majority.oi-,the- board.F$ which this. Commission appoints has two qualifications,, either resident, or a primary business in the City of Miami and I'thiAk that ,,.• I_' know Huber definitely has his business in the City of Miami. '.• y f `_ r E Mayor Suareti OK, and Commissioner Kennedy's appointment the same. Cull the roll on the motion. The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who s:oved its adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 69-433 A RESOLUTION ALLOCATING AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $10,O00 PROM SPECIAL PROGRAMS AND ACCOUNTS IN SUPPORT OF THE AD HOC CHARTER AMENDMENT COMMITTEE ACTIVITY. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Commissioner Dawkins, the resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote: - AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Commissioner Rosario Kennedy Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins Vice Mayor Victor De Yurre Mayor Xavier L. Suarez NOES: None. ABSENT: None. 14. (Continued .Ziscusslon): ACCEPT 3IDS; (a).: Mercy. Oatpatient .Center, -.Inc. . (for physical •exmsinatims; for. -police .officers `•read -firefighters), and (b) Cedars Medical Center, Inc. (for medical assessments of prospective and current City employees) (See label 9). Mr. Dawkins: Mr. Mayor. Hayor-Suarez:_ Yes, Commissioner Dawkins. Mr. Dawkins: .I move Consent Agenda item 4. Mayor Suarez: So moved. Mr.'Plummer::Second. Mayor Suarez: Any discussion on 4? If not,'call the roll.' F 4� t ,1 ct — — i j y t etiy d°. fwiv i, -v i The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Dawkins, who moved its adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 89-434 A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BIDS OF MERCY OUTPATIENT CENTER, INC., AT A PROPOSED FIRST YEAR COST OF $142,623.00 TO PERFORM ANNUAL PHYSICAL EXAMINATIONS TO POLICE OFFICERS AND FIREFIGHTERS AND CEDARS MEDICAL CENTER, INC., AT A PROPOSED FIRST YEAR COST OF $99,705.00 TO PERFORM MEDICAL ASSESSMENT OF A PROSPECTIVE AND CURRENT CITY EMPLOYEES ON A CONTRACT BASIS FOR A PERIOD OF THREE (3) YEARS WITH THE OPTION TO EXTEND FOR TWO ADDITIONAL ONE YEAR PERIOD FOR A TOTAL PROPOSED FIRST YEAR COST OF $242,328.00; ALLOCATING FUNDS THEREFOR FROM THE 1988-89 OPERATING BUDGETS OF THE DEPARTMENTS OF FIRE, RESCUE AND INSPECTION SERVICES, POLICE AND PERSONNEL MANAGEMENT ACCOUNT NOS. 270101-170, 280201-260 AND 290201-260 AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO INSTRUCT THE CHIEF PROCUREMENT OFFICER TO ISSUE PURCHASE ORDERS FOR THESE _ SERVICES AND THEREAFTER TO EXTEND THIS CONTRACT FOR TWO ADDITIONAL ONE YEAR PERIODS SUBJECT TO THE AVAILABILITY OF FUNDS. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote: AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. - Commissioner Rosario Kennedy _+ Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins i Vice Mayor Victor De Yurre Mayor Xavier L. Suarez A 1 NOES: None. -i ABSENT: None. - Mr. Dawkins: I still want the Administration to bring back to me itemized_ _ cost breakout and show me how we are saving money, because according to the list I saw, each, examination at Cedars costs $185 and I heard something different up here, so I need to know something and what we are doing and explain to me why you only singled out the Fire_ Department for physical, examination and you didn't say .anything about the Police Department who get physical examinations, nor did you say anything about the Sanitation employees who get physical examinations and I need to know if you left them off' purposely because theirs remain the same or were higher, or what have you. Thank you, Mr. Manager. { tL ---------------- ---- -- ----------------- --------------- -- r 15. AUTHORIZE FUNDING OF DAY CARE PROGRAMS UNDER COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT (CDBG) - as recommended by Administration - Direct .Manager to.,,place funding_ cap of $3,300, per child for next fiscal year ..unless Administration proves-,said.level of funding,to,.be.inadequa1te._,,•. -- - - - - -- - - n Mayor Suarez; Item 13.. Daycare programs. funded under.,Communty Develo ment, ' We: had, a :dine, report by you. I'm sure Commissioner ,Plwamer ,.in gg ng to wait; to refer to ..it, but. ,I do want to compliment your that :you got 'those, fig r s �alEe a comptehensible_way back to us so that ,we can compare.ona to.>_the Qthel;;,make; sure .that:: we are not over spending. and, so: on. - are zComn►iasionor, Vera ypµ t r *� satisfied ,with.t4at? �r � Mr. ,Plumme r Hr. ,Mayor, I understand the rat ion- .used ;in the Fiat , oiliat � ►' F °, by the Dapartme.4t. I .$till:.: go _back to my ,ba$ic aoutentiQn t =t=`` Commission., is _herg ; oharged ; wih. helping the needy. c�at�no x th� ransc.ence .vote faz the dey care prograt�Q that arecol�t.Ag $�SOQe;c#ld L - M per year. I have a problem with that when we have another organization providing day care, maybe, and I understand there is a difference in the quality, but if I didn't have thousands of people waiting to get into just simple day rare that are not being provided for, I don't think it is fair to provide a higher quality for some when others have none. Now, that's tray basis. I think that this Commission should have the ability to set a maximum cost per child. I cannot vote, where, as I recall, and I'm going to use round numbers, Centro Meter was in the neighborhood of $2,400 a child. Mr. Odio: No, sir, there are $3,698 per child. i Mayor Suarez: Which is the lowest? What is the range of what he is getting at? Mr. Odio: Thirty-six, OK, Centro Mater is $3,698, Holy Cross is $3,658. The lowest is thirty-one, no, $2,016 by San Juan day care center. Mr. Plummer: OK, fine, now I am not saying that we have to go to the cheapest, all right, but I don't think that this Commission can afford to stand back with thousands waiting and say, hey, this given group over here, we're going to give better quality day care to, and these we are going to give none because the money is not equitable across the board. That doesn't make sense to me. Now, I think if you know how these things work in the School Board, it is so such per child per day and I think that we have to set a maximum. We are here to provide for the mess, for the needy. If there weren't thousands of kids waiting to get into just simple day care, to allow the mothers to go out and work, I would feel differently and I just don't feel that we can afford... Mayor Suarez: What was the highest, I'm sorry? Mr. Plummer: $5,500. Mr. Odio: The highest was $3,698. Mr. Plummer: That's not the numbers that were given to me before. Mayor Suarez: Four what? Mr. Odio: Per kid $4,034. Mayor Suarez: And which one was that? Ms. Brooks: That is Centro Meter for infant care. Mayor Suarez: OK, is the. any explanation, number of hours, I know that the facility looks quite nice, I was over there the other day and I have to tell you that Centro Mater has gone a long ways from the old days. Mr. Plummer: They are one of the best around. Ms. Brooks: Yes, me let Alice Abreu speak to that. Ms. Alice Abreu: Good morning, I'm Alice Abreu, 9401 Biscayne Boulevard. I am the director of the Day care and Neighborhood Center Division 'of -Catholic Community Services and also a member of the Florida State Child Care Advisory Council. I believe it is important that I make use of this opportunity to address you today to speak of the importance, once again, of-the;quallty-child ;, $ care as opposed- to child care that's which` is merely baby sitting. This decision is partly motivated by the preparation of materials which indicate cost -per child, per day at programs which receive financial, assistance from K= the City Commission. The quality child care programs are needed because most children 'spend =ore of their ' Making -active hours in child care'-than,`-theyy dq".at e, home. Child care is a major influence in the rhiId's - Iifa,' making "quality 3" more essential than ever before. There are studies that have been follovod the effectof our quality preschool programs that show -:that children that=- attended such programs' when compared With control groups were,,. by age 49 _ iexs likely to drop oat�oU,a-school-or-be on welfare, more likely to be., employed oz € ; enrolled in secondary education and loss likely to have been'&treated:or have. become.pregnantas*teenagera This is important, of tremendous importance frotgi ,r t r� now and for the future that I feel that it has to be considered. There different items in the reasons for quality child core. I top tt►at F iY 27 _ °,� F 9 to f disappoint all of you up here to be convinced of the quality child care and the concern of there is not enough monies to go around available to purchase these programs, but quality child care costs money and it has been proven that children who have attended this quality day care programs become independent, productive members of the society and taxpayers save from $4 to $1 for every one dollar invested in quality preschool child care. I wish in relation with your interest.... Mayor Suarez: One quick question, one quick question. If you have a high quality program, which I believe you have, and I know you have a waiting lint, how many people on your waiting list? Ms. Abreu: Hundreds of thousands. Mr. Plummer: Thousands. Ms. Abreu: Hundreds of thousands, yes. Mayor Suarez: I'm sure it is not hundreds of thousands, because otherwise all the citizens of Miami -would be on your waiting list. Ms. Abreu: We have 6,000 children currently that have applied and are listed in Dade County. Mayor Suarez: Let me then finish, let me finish my point. If you allowed; can't you accommodate a few more? That would reduce your cost per child without having to... Ms. Abreu: If we could have the facility to expand like Little Havana, that we are, short of only 56 children, or in our Wynwood Child Care Program that we can only accommodate 63 children, definitely, the cost per child per year will go down. Mayor Suarez: Have you looked at the other facilities? Maybe... I know the one run by Spanish Catholic Center over here on 27th... —' Ms.'Abreu:'27th is -up to capacity. No more... - Mayor: Suarez: Oh, well that's what I was going to get at. Ms. Abreu: Up to capacity with hundreds of children on the waiting list. Mayor Suarez: Can I finish what I am going to say for a second? Thank you. _ The one over here, that•is up to capacity on 27th Avenue. I see that they are quite crowded and perhaps yours could have a little bit moie'density, I mean a few more children, that would reduce your cost per child. Ms.'- Abreu: We cannot have it relation with licensing standards. o Mayor`Suarez; OK, well, but the other lone seems to be able to do it, why are they...? Ms. Brooks: There is a specific State requirement on the amount of space that each child has to be provided with`. I can't remember the exact ,square, footage. k'- Mayor, Suarez: Well, I'll tell you, one of them somehow gets around it and; ' they're doing a fine job over there on 27th Avenue. f` Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, may I... Mayor Suarez: Maybe I shouldn't say that out loud, or the State might catci " up with: = h''them4 Mr. - Plummer: :. inquire, ",'two, - r things? ; Ma! am � I ' appreiclatee eAsd . fu11�►', v , understand your, remarks about quality day caare�. The thing that you axe missing is the child who has none. Jxa w Ms gbrevtsf I agxee with xhat, 'Commis`sion e:r. R�8 7 0 i :16+.r„.,,. .. .=r:.. .. .., .. ..•. _.. .... ... ... . ,, _. ... T,,, Y ,. t;.'r. .., x.,, )r ...E*'��v., -. ]"'...ft�Y.'YSt - Mr. Plummer: OK, let me go a bit further. Using just the barometer, which is an unfair barometer in this report, the City's involvement in day care goes from $135 of City involvement per child to $897 per child. What do I say to the mother who has no day care? Mayor Suarez: Vell, but that is an unfair comparison because you are taking = some programs which have a lot of other funding and not including the other furid ing . Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I said it was an unfair comparison. Mayor Suarez: Yes, the City's involvement, if we did the entire program would be about $3,000 per child, by the device that you have come up yourself, but some of them have more funding from the outside. Mrs. Kennedy: Looking at the index, you know they are higher in infant care, but they really are not higher in preschool care, nor after school care. Ms. Abreu: Commissioner, it really depends, the figures for the cost per child per year, it involves different factors - the size, the number of children that you can serve in a given facility, the type of service that you give in a given facility. If a given facility only takes care... Mayor Suarez: We know all that,.but also think that maybe the salaries paid the staff, the amount of staff per child, might be a factor, that's what the Commissioner is getting at. Do you have any efficiency that you can begin to implement between this year and next year? Ms.: Abreu: We have constraints in relation with also the good majority of - funding sources that come out to build into this budget. We have... Mayor Suarez: Let me ask the staff if they know. Do they have_a higher salary scale, by any chance, or...? Ms —Brooks: The salaries vary. I think the thing that: probably affects -this: the most though, is the actual ratio of teachers to children While the ,State generally, as an example, may say for the age group of three -years -old, They generally just say the requirement is that there be one teacher for 20 children... Mayor Suarers Right. Ms. Brooks:... it is not: really 'the, desired ratio. Title, 20, on the other = ssaa hand, which is... Mayor Suarez: What does Centro Mater have? How many children per teacher? Ms. Abreu: Five to one in relation to infants, 10 to one in preschoolers and it changes. --to after school to Title 20 requirements., Ms. Brooks: It has,to meet the Title 20 requirement. Mayor Suarez: We may have to increase that ratiol - Ms. Abreu:The thing is that if we increase the ratio because of the -desire t and the needs of the community, we are going to lose the funding of Title 20; Title =_5, :. Headstart. and:, this makes' part of the _major amount of fund �z:g at` tr - these:. MayoraSuarers_ The ratio is mandated five to one.by. c a e Ms,:,Brooks': Yes.. Ms. Abreu':1,w Yes,s mandated. IV'a mandated under. other fupolag-,ns:r � ,Y , aw Mayor Suarez: Well, maybe they don't know theneedin.the City lika the City:} x:f.. Miami Ms, Abreuss ,Bel ieve:'we; they do, know. the . mired and'," At the $Utec Yp1''#?l`4. Qwn th$it , :aaa =�aamb4y of a,the ::Advisory Csauneil "+�ppbint.d byeo�4t+afyohN75+OK`'"n de�►liagfand;work�islatur;inrnwith the IeaPethe coat �r�►�burd$mgD. t,� rapes mandated under Title 20 and the Sttrsbaiel chill ca; bCetleehlt �m -- t— _- �s know that, the qualifications and the minimum standards that they impose in programs that receive subsidized money from the state, it costs more money than the reimbursement. Now, the critical situation here, there are no other programs that will be able to expand to meet the needs and we need this support for the City of Miami in order to continue to have the program at least at the level that they are at because they... Mayor Suarez: You are not helping us to solve the problem of the Commission feelLng that if we were to use the funds more efficiently, we could serve a lot more children. When you said five children to every one feature, we were all surprised, you know, we hear of 20 to one as being the maximum allowable and now we hear of you being four times more intense than that and the City has too many people that have this need and you are not helping us, you are not proposing any solutions to the problem. Ms. Miriam Romano: I would like to clarify something on behalf of Centro Hater.. My name is Miriam Romano, administrator of Centro Hater and our cost per child per day in relation with pre school and after school is not the lowest, but not the highest. We are about the third and we are the lowest in after school, I get the second one in preschool. We came a little bit higher in the pre school. The main reason is that we have five children per adult. That is the regulation for Title 20 and we cannot change that; however if you combine the total average of the program, we are one of the lowest, so I think that we are handling in a very efficient manner a program and that you have to take into consideration the whole program, not one part separate from the other one. Mr. Plummer: Well, you know, my point is still the same. If there was not a long list of people out there wanting day care for their children who are being turned away, I would say fine, there is no question that all five of us sitting here, we would like to provide high quality for every child in day care, for every child, including the ones who today get no day care, but we can't afford it and I think that as far as I am concerned, you are going to have to come with City funds to a cap, a cap that says we the City Commission will pay so much per child, that's it. If you can provide it, that's great. If you. can't then we'll have to go to another system. I just don't... you know, I'm not sorry. I'm sorry for the people who are applying who get nothing. Mr. Dawkins: Mrs. Brooks, do we have any centers out there that operate without Title 1 money? _ Ms. Brooks: There are a number of centers that operate without it. Mr. Dawkins: OK, good, thank you. Ms. Brooks: OK. Mr. Dawkins: So see, the key to this thing seems to be, if you want Title 1 program, where Title whatever it is allows you to have fine students per teacher, than you have to stick with Title 1 program, or Title whatever it is, OK? And ; if you want the City of Miami, then as J.L. Plummer says, - we are going to have a cap that says we will only fund a child for X number of dollars and he cannot go to Centro Hater, he has to go over where Title whatever it is, does not require one teacher per five students. Ms. Nils& Velazquez: May I talk? My name is Nils& Velazquez, I'm the - `- director of Holy Cross Day Care Center,: 123 NB 36th SStreet. I simply r cannot stay., sitting down listening to this without- voicing ,my concern., -I`m also representing not only the child care, but the. Dade Assoc latiou,,for Chi'1d Care . Programs, which I am the president and our concern.is to.provide.qual,ity_ chi d care:and you have to be aware please ...:. Mayor Suarez: As president of the Dade Association, did you before today{: analyzer on .-a. cost .per child basis all - of your -agencies? Ms. Velazquez: Of course. Mayor 'Suarez: It would have been extremely helpful if you provided that ' o -ui` Y; ' ba,forw vs. =got into, this .analysis because until he got _. into: Lt. :seen anybody aloe .do it. k i tin SV 9 s+ 1./yk $ 30► l A =4d ,i. Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, her cast factor is not out of line, hers is, according to our number, is $2,716. No, Velazquez: But I would like to continue... Mayor Suarez: As president of the association if she had done this analysis for us, we would have been beyond this point before instead of doming and arguing about a particular... very valid analysis that the Commissioner is - doing. Ms. Velazquez: The reason why I said that I am the president of the Child Care Association is because I am concerned about the children, OK? Mayor Suarez: We're concerned too, but that's not the issue. Me. Velazquez: OK, HRS (Health and Rehabilitative Services) has some standards and some requirements, which I brought some information for you your information too, and... - x, Mayor Suarers Where of the standards and requirements they apply equally to =s all of the the... Ms. Velazqueze Yes, because they are HRS assessment tools. Mayor Suarers And some manage to do it for a lot less then others and we are trying to figure out why the discrepancy. Ms. Velazquez: And you knot what, the Title 20 is trying to get enhancement ;A funds in order to enhance the program. If any figure is good in this report, is the one that gets more money, because we have to provide better qualified staff and more training for the children, for the teachers. Mr. Plummer: That's fine, but what about the kids who are getting nothing? How do I, as a City Commissioner... Ms. Velazquez: We are working on that. We are trying to get .a tax on cigarettes passed. r_ Mr. Plummer: But you are asking'me to fund you now and you will work on it _ later, but that child is still out there and that mother can't workl:because she is having to stay home and take care of that child. We are sitting here as elected officials to be fair and equitable across the board. I cannot sit here in good judgment and vote to give one child superior quality and another child'in7 effect, gets nothing! I can't do' that. That is 'not fair and equitable across the board. Ms. Velazquez: You know, that's the problem that you always want to do things across the board. Mr. Plummer: You have to. - Ms. Velazquez: Not considering, out of, you know the qualYty of the programs and all what is involved. r=- Mr. Plummer: I would love to be able to give each child the quality program., _ We don't have the money! } Ms.-'4breur Commissioner, -I am and I have been very concerned; about ;this; issue, the fact of reality currently ,is one, among all of these programs :that are receiving Title 20-'monies, there are''hundrdds'�andithousands of ahldreii , y g;- that`are'being`currently served. The money that the City of Miami viag:. to these six children day care programs. They are monies" that ara Yeey lk _ important to maintain that rdinimum 'number, °of children that we.: Mayor Suarez.: OK, we've gone around and around. 'There i ray}pol � decision. Ms. lbreusr OK, that we have. U> ' M'syor `'Suarers Wait d minute, I Im gains to have to intarxupt. you because We Y s hays got oxher items, . There la a policy Decision the',Cot�mies.�ois h¢s' t4►a ���t� +- znd..that is 'bas aallY, do we tryto a l a maximum' pP Y g�iideling #Q��R *00" _ ' n �.x'� • y�7 d _ 5. �' Z& ai,+ :'t_:'• : .,;.,.._ .. .,,d�t�l� e year, or we do we approve you for this year and try to apply that next year. I can tell you how I feel about it and that is that we go through this year's funding with the, you know, the guidelines that we had before. I still find very useful Commissioner Plummer's analysis and I have to warn you, for my vote, that next year, unless I hear some response to our concerns on efficiency, I am not going to vote for the program next year, because all I hear is how your program has higher quality and that is all very fine, but we want to get to more children. These are very needy kids and there is many on your waiting list than any other waiting list, so, but for this year, I would be willing to dispose to vote with you to get us going for one thing, and because we haven't imposed this requirement up to now, but the Commission is going to have to speak to that so we can get out of here. I think everyone knows all the arguments. Mr. Dawkins: All right, I'll speak to it. I have to agree with J.L., I cannot see providing a Cadillac service for some youngsters and others have to walk. Either we all walk together, or we all ride in a Cadillac together. Now, when we had Federal money, when the Federal Government was putting the money in here, all of you went out and wrote these beautiful programs and you never thought that the cow would give out of milk. The cow is out of milk now, see, and we just don't have any other money and I for one know of a lot of youngsters who are not being served and yet you tell me, that you want me to fund a program where you got one teachers and five youngsters because he is going to get quality care, he is going to learn his alphabet, he is going to learn to read and write, and here is a youngster out here who is getting nothing, who he has to go to school in 6th grade with that individual who you have applied and got him ready and this little individual who we are talking about didn't get anything, he's going to be left behind. Ms. Abreu: I understand, but abiding by those minimum standards, more than the regular number of children that could have been served are being served at the City of Miami and other areas of the County because with those standards, there are millions of dollars coming for child care and this is what we need to support to keep at least this year and work it into that. Mayor Suarez: And it may be that some programs will want to rely more on the Federal Title 20 funding, which will mean that they will be inconsistent with the City's effort and that may just be the way some of them will have to go. If they want to stick to a five to one ratio, of you know, children to teachers, we may not be able to fit them into our standards which are going to 'require a lot more children per teacher, frankly. Mrs. Kennedy: I feel the same way, Mr. Mayor, I think that what we are saying is what we want for you to do is look at your management for next year. y Ms. Abreu: For next year. Mrs. Kennedy: Right, you know, you do have the 25 and the 35 foot requirements that everybody else does, but perhaps as the Mayor suggested earlier, you can accommodate more children and increase the density. You have a great program, I have nothing against it. I have been there and it is -a wonderful program, but please take a look at your management for next year. Mr. Plummer: How many children are we providing for under two hundred seventy? Mayor Suarez: You really can feel the difference when you go to the one on 27th Avenue, of, you know... 5 Hs.' Abreu:- ire have a maximum capacity there, =Mayor and we have- to abider by _ those`- standards. J 3 < Mayor -'Suarez; Yes but now ou.are speaking out of both sides -of ` Y . y Pe g your ,mouth' now. You are trying to defend Centro Hater and I'm comparing it.to,,another: Y3A one `that also --is Catholic Services, but that has a much higher density, You*, can just feel it when you walk in there, that, you know... pKT Mr. Vice` -how do you= feel? You may be the swig vote on this, so we, et y g B of the way. {, ` n Ms.',Abreut,: T.'d like to: make just... ' U 32 �r t j Mayor Suarez: Do we want to impose the standard next year or this year, or just go ahead and approve it? Mrs. Kennedy: I move that we do it for this year and that they look at their management and then we'll look at it next year, but for now we fund it as it is Mayor Suarez: hell, somebody move something so we can get on. Mr. Pluminere Wait, wait a minute, what was your comments, I'm sorry? Mrs. Kennedy: To approve it as it is and then for them to look at their management and come back next year with another issue, but for this year to leave it as it is. Mayor Suarez: We should definitely set a threshold or a maximum amount per child for next year and anyone that doesn't meet it simply doesn't get funded. Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I will vote to fund it as is if today before that vote, this Commissioner sets a maximum cap for next year so that the people don't go away from here... Mayor Suarez: OK, let's see if staff can give us that. Is there a figure that makes attnue that we're not going to later have to kick ourselves in the rear? Mrs. Brooks: Let me mention two things I think it might help with that. Title 20 is the major Federal source of funds and they do provide reimbursement on a cost per child basis and that is based on enrollment and the child being present so many days and ghat have you and we can... Mayor Suarez: Is there a maximum figure that would make sense to apply as the Commission seems to be wanting to do? -Unidentified Speaker: Not at this point. - 11r. Plummer: Why would the number be any different -than the cheapest cost that ;we< -Are. providing now, which is twenty-five sixty-two, which -is ='St - Alban's? Mayor.', Suarez: Well, because I would guess a lot of them, Commissioner, how they got their space is a big factor. How they happened to get their physical facilities,>how many.they can fit, how large is their kitchen, you could... to be absolutely at the minimum, I think would be a bit too much. Mr. Plummer.: You make a good point, but what is a reasonable number? Mr. De Yurre:: Does that include debt service? It must. Mayorf Suarez: Yes, most of them probably don't even pay debt service, they either have old facilities that are way beyond depreciation or... Ms. .Brooks: The only one that pays rent is Mr. Castaneda: Commissioner, I guess what I would suggest is if you are, heading into this direction to take the average as thecap, Mr. Plummer: I can't agree with that. Mayor Suarez: What does the average work out to be? Ye , I would go with average. Mr Castaneda: The average is about 64 a week for ` g S preschool cake.: x Mr. Plummer: How. much per year? Mr. Castaneda: $3,329. {'. . .f=�U.. 'i:. - .` ,'..., .' •: ;.'. .. �. Thy Mayor F Suarez: pon't ive. us now - Y g per week aftefi ,we. have .barn usi per.►ea, M t . lr. Castanedas 0329. 4 _ t ,,. r 33 Mayor Suarez: Thank you, Ms. Brooks: for preschool. Mayor Suarez; You want to target for that? Mr. Plummer: I'll go for $3,000. Mrs. Kennedy: tia. Mayor Suarez: Well, I can't go below the average. Mrs. Kennedy: .No, I can't either. = Ms. Brooks: No. Mr. PImmmer: What are you saying, three thousand three... - Mrs. Kennedy: That deans for $300, you know... Mr. Plummerz OX, all right... 'Mrs..Rennedy: For $3001 Mr. Plummer OK, $300 I'll go with. Mr. Castaneda: We have three categories. Infant care is $3,658, preschool is $3,329 and after school day care is $2,076. "r. Plumer: So you are saying the average would be $3,300. Mr. Castaneda: Right. Mr. Plummer: I111:go along with that.^ Kr. De Yurre: I'd like to propose the following: if we are talking about the . 1,000, whatever the ,amount is we're talking ,about, that. we .use that, number„ as . ; —= an'ind:icator and, because I think we are doing things kind of hastily here... Unidentified Speaker:, Right. Mr. De.Yurre: .... that the Administration do a detailed study...{ Unidentified Speaker: That is what I was going to suggest. �t Mr. De Yurre.- ...lookin into exactly what the com onents are of,these'costs, 8 � Y P that are being factored in and some may apply 'And some may,not apply:. w; TLl'nidentified Speaker: Note apply, right. ;:r. De Yurre. So vt can get a true picture .and that .before next year ,'cams vr- around, ie make, then we_ decide determinatively what the amount is, going as fr! as a cap is concerned, that would be my suggestion. 'Mrs.., Kennedy: If. you, want, I can accept that as an amendment to the motion,; rx. �r or' vote on it separately. fir. Da. Yurre: Well, I'd like•to propose it as'such ; 3 T *161 edy OK.We can vote on the; first motion and then I'll-`sedox�d Y" N pours. � Mr. Pleardeir z iilast is the` first`motion j s Mrs Kennedy: To 'accept it as is. !!r, Pi uamr Aai what. is the `second motion?Tr " 11, ��n4,'+'�:— f , Upidep4iP ed S eakert po' a study "till 'next year.7,7 � �6 c Mayor Suarez: Same thing we were trying to attempt to do to have the Manager tepott back to us on what would make sense in view of all the parameters here, but before toe would ever vote on any new funding, we would want to know that in advant*, obviously. Mr. Plummer: That I will go along with, but any new funding that includes this year. Mr. Mayor, if we don't establish a thing before we go with the first motion, it will never get around to a second. I am saying to you that ire need toestablish a policy. These people who are providing the care need to know this policy... Mayor Suarez: .And you want to know the fixed amount, what the policy is going to be? Mayor Suarez: If you establish it at $3,300, I will vote for it. I'll give them their funding for this year. That gives them 12 months to know that next year, you are going to be in at $3,300, or don't come apply to the City, that •-s onty fair. H K - 'Iriat•s onl fair but why don't we wait for the Administration I rs . rsrna� to reaommrnd to us as Victor has proposed? There is nothing wrong with that. '- '^:ayor Suarez. 109, we may just have to take a vote, see how the vote comes out. 0. Mr. Odio: 'Uhat we can say, instead of being $3,300, Commissioner Plummer, let us come #b*ck :w;.th the exact figure w.zat it should be. Mrs. Karmper= Right and then we vote on it. Mayor _Suarrez: `(dell, 'het me say this, maybe this will get his positive vote. ,iou can c mr ba=k with all the studies you want, but I would want to see a figure as cl.vse to that average figure as possible, because I can't imagine that we should have such a wide 'range, which I think is his main concern. To go from -twenty,.-whatever .,it is to forty four thousand, ninety-three, or whatever their's is..: - Mr. Castaneda: Commissioner if you decide,'_ we'll use the .$3,300 as" the maximum... ,iiayor Suarez.: Benchmark'... VIr. Castare::f ,,. or the benchmark and we'll do a study not only of publicly funded, programs, but also .of privately funded. -� fir. 'Plummer. 1-1:11 tell you what I'll vote for. I'll vote for funding this year•with a cap of $3,300 for the coming year unless the Administration comes back and justUl I es a different number, I'll vote for that: In other words, I'm locking 3t im, unless they can come back and convince this Commission that .number is not -right. ` a. Kzyar _% wxez. That's right-, and of course in principle that would be t} mcceptable'„ 'mwcaase we can always override that . by a later motion that would. �s allow a higher figure, so... -=;r Mr. Plummer: 'What's correct. Mr. De' Turie: OK, now, my position' is"as follows. -want 'a -'detailed study' as, to what the numbers should be. And I am not in a position right now. tQ.limit �kY� what thes"e`'pr:ople are expecting and 'have' made their plans for the lupcom`ag �. year, `based on aibst they got in previous years: ; 1�lX` Piummere rfie're noL in'"confl`ict. We are not in` conflict' at' !!r. De' Turre: ` 'Well,'mY position is I want to give .them the funding tb+at #reuppa$ed t-6 get :this year. and they -know that things; are going-' to �hnng :.R� iar Aext •ye:ar„ lased on'tne ` recommendation of .,the. AdministratI 'on. !!r. Pitunasr: I'd rather cock' 'it' in tq get•'- them on' ^,not vo wow' to gel ;Ah loan ag.t,pr xgxt ,yaar. f r4l a` s G�.' Keaaedj►ah@y ar+� Oa 'notice r - G: k i; d S Mr, De Yurret They're on notice right now. Mr. Plummers i can accept for this year with a cap of $3,300 per child and the next year, based on if the Administration comes back and justifies the three votes on this Commission that that number should change, that it Mould change, but at the present time, it's locked in. Mayor Suarez: OK, let's go ahead and vote. That's in the form of a motion. Mrs. Kennedy: Second. Mayor Suarez: Do we have a second for that one? Mrs. Kennedy: Because we can always overturn it. Mr. Plummer: Always overturn it.. Ve can also reduce it. Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded. Mr. De Yurre: OK. Mayor Suarez: Any further discussion? Mr. Dawkins: Who seconded it? Mrs. Kennedy: I did. Mayor Suarez: Commissioner Kennedy. Call the roll. =_ The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved Its adoption: MOTION NO. 89-435 ' A:MOTION DIRECTING THE ADMINISTRATION TO FUND DAY CARE 'PROGRAMS PRESENTLY UNDER THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY. - DEVELOPMENT (CDBG), AS RECOMMENDED BY THE r ADMINISTRATION; FURTHER STIPULATING THAT THE CITY ' SHALL PLACE A FUNDING CAP OF $3,300 PER CHILD FOR NEXT. .FISCAL .:.YEAR..: "UNLESS THE CITY ADMINISTRATION CAN _ SUCCESSFULLY DEMONSTRATE TO- THE CITY COMMISSION THAT SAID LEVELIS INADEQUATE. — Upon'being seconded by Commissioner Kennedy, the motion was passed and adopted by the following vote:, AYES•.. Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Y ?h Commissioner Rosario Kennedy 4 R'+ Commissioner Miller'J. Dawkins xk Vice Mayor Victor De Yurre ;Mayor -Xavier L. Suarez' r ,,ttf NOES: None. :ysj ABSENTS None. Y ® Mayor Suarez: See, we-vere unanimous all along, we,'didn't know .lt.����,,.. 1 Mr. Plumaert 'For --the Administration if they would, i one numb ou didn't f, y give, t me, OK•:; sad I=think it is an important nu:eber and I'd dikes to know, f You said that wa. are rRseitl s eadin� wF issue here.:.today. p Y p., $ 4 7i1,O,9 care ` attd Itivouid lika 20 1[nbN how A►anq_ c�lildreSA -we sac prvl �ng;,oz� and ifF F� ;: Bo to that $3;SOp` `cap, how. many more3 childreA Grp could provide ;for. I thialck S�- that .is am :dmporiant='numbes Mr,"Dawkinsiv Or hov'many less. Mr.' Plummer:. Leas? Hov is it going to bee lest? • Mr, Dee�vkins a dI `'don't know! 'SY -Al unidentified Speakers Yes, less, you have to take into consideration for inflation, that they cost more next Year. Mr. Plumrmers That's right. That's rights Mr. Dxwkinss That's Why i said less. Mayor Suarez: Getting ready to — Mr. Plummer: Emilio, look at these numbers that we have. Mr. Emilio !_ s I would take a look. Mayor Suarez: We're getting ready to move Emilio forcibly from City Hall for speaking out of turn. Mr. Dawkins: Yes, policeman, take this gentlemen back to Little Wynwbod. Take him back to Wynwoodl Mrs. Kennedy: Emilio, we won't let him. Mr. Plummer: 'put him into... where he needs to go is Perry Anderson's Day Care. -------=--- ----------------------------------------- NOTE FOR THE RECORD- At this point, the City Commission extended good wishes to Commissioner Kennedy for Mother's Day. ----------------- ---------------------------- -------------- NOTE FOR THE RECORD: At this point, Agenda item lk was tabled -,until"5:00 p.m, aa_a__a _a__a - !4 lb: (A) REPORTBY'CITIZENS' INDEPENDENT REVIEW -PANEL- , r- (B) ALLOCATE AN ADDITIONAL $36,500 TO INDEPENDENT REVIEW PANEL — for investigating and 'reviewing community relations between police officers and residents of Overtown. Mayor Suarez: Report by the Citizen's Independent Review Panel. Mr. Leroy Collier: Leroy Collier, 425 NW 6th Street, Miami, Florida. I'm appearing` today in 'place of Father Barry, who i's, not available., Mayor'Suarers Tell him`we.are going to reduce his pay, we never see him. y�2 Mr.= Collier: It is kind of hard to take blood'from a turnips What Mrs Crapp r,r who in the consultant to the ` board passed out to ;you isan interim .report 4w zu our coiiaipittee I'll just :highlight some of the points. We have met three times since I last appeared - before the board, or tie€ore the;; Consmeaioi, Oua� k k s t next'�'soeeting is'"the` 18th of" May. We are; gearing: the 'Couplet o7n <of Doss' . investigation, looking into the Police Department practices phd everythg'fas�dt, fire should have 44' interim report on -that in J,uly.. `. After >»#�e; i$th-'oi' 14a1►� next meotin8 .till be here at `City Half on 'tb0,11st Qf. Meal►► hope'to give a: final report this fall, September, k 1!!r. PX'ummer: Super.-Y £j4F5 r� ga g i 1�aypr carers The`:,,interitq report: is: axtremey ins s�r�Caat Ikhiki�,� ' � of the officers that don't want to come pursuant to subpoenas I thought was going to work, but didn't quite work, so some of them want to have the matter resolved by the courts, and all I can say is, even if the courts rule in the favor of the officers as to the Committee being able to subpoena them, once again, we want to clarify, I think this Commission is on record unanimously as saying that if we have to do that ourselves, and maybe even impanel, this is just an idea that occurred to me, one of our own members to supervise the process of subpoenas with the Committee, I have a feeling this Commission will go that route and that might eliminate some of the issues of the subpoena, so you might want to consider sending that message to those that don't want to appear, pursuant to subpoenas. That was just an idea that occurred to me, but you know, to get entangled in a legal discussion in the courts, expensive to everybody and troublesome to the community, I don't think it's necessarily the best thing. I know Father Barry felt that way and I presume the rest of the Committee, so, you know, that's just another avenue that we could pursue and I think at least... I presume all five members of this Commission would be willing to sit with your ad hoc committee and carry out the subpoena powers, to that may be another avenue to pursue. Mr. Collier: Thank you very much. Mr. Plummer: Before you leave, the next item is... Mr. Collier: Oh no, I still got some more. Mr. Plummer: The next item is a funding item for an additional $36,500, what would that bring the total to for that committee as it stands today? Mr. Collier: $61,500. — Mr. Plummer: And the request for the additional $36,500 is for what reason? Mr. Collier: Lawyer fees, number one, attorney Mr. Long, as I requested. Mr. Plummer: How much has Mr. Long received, if this is granted? _ Mr. Collier: He will receive $32,000. Mrs. Kennedy: And what is the other part going for? Mr. Collier: The $15,600 will be for our consultant, Mr. Crapp, who has worked with us during this period, this time, and he has not received any -remuneration whatsoever. That is the bulk of it. _ Mr. De Yurre: How much money has been received already as attorney's fees? Dr. Hattie Daniels: So far Commissioner, Mr. Long's fees total $14,910. Mr. De Yurre: Fourteen? Dr. Daniels: Yes. Mr. De Yurre: For how many hours? What's the hourly rate on that? ,. Dr.. Daniels: I'm sorry, I do not have all of that in front of. me, but, he maintains a schedule of all of those hours and that information goe's'to the City Attorney who basically approves that before it is paid. Y-A Mr. Plummer: What's the hourly rate? xi Mr.Fernandez: One twenty five. _. y r: Mr, De Yurre: One twenty five per hour?,a Hr. Fernandez: .Yes. - _ Mr. Plummer: Excuse me, then I misunderstood. Did you not sey that that f> would ,,bring him to a total of=$32,000 if this . ;allocated? a Dr...Dan$els: $esically, :based ,upon what;; ti}eQrk .,tea, bay Aso Yfar, tie n�uatFer of hours- are �ti�mes .;$125-::through September $0th, we estimate will :'cost "about ' sk z N $32,000. ri _ ,.f 30 f Mr. Plummet: That's roughly 256 hours. Dr. Daniels: Yes. Mt. De Yurre: So that's on top of the fourteen. Mr. Plummer: Well, it obviously is on top of the fourteen. Mr. De Yurre: Well, we could have hired an assistant city attorney for the rest of the work and we would have had another $2,000 left over to do City work. Mr. Plummer: Well, I think... no, we have to preserve the right of an independent. That is very, very definite. I feel strongly on that, that they must have independent counsel. Now, the question is, 256 hours, I think that it would be nice to see a breakdown on that, OK, as to the 256 hours. $32,000 dots seem like a lot of money and if that trend continues, I would envision that it would be at least $80,000 or $90,000 worth of legal fees between now and September, if this same trend were to prevail. Dr. Daniela: What has been happening, we can also look at it on the basis of - each month. Each month of operation so far has cost us roughly $5,000 each =' month, so we think that if... Mayor Suarez: And it sounds, Doctor, that you are not taking much advantage of the law firm that offered its services on a pro bono basis, you might want to look at the possibility too. -_ Mr. Plummer: now can you say $5,000 a month? This panel has been empowered how long? Dr. Daniels: Actually working since February, roughly. Mr. Plummer: February, March, April, May, four months. Mayor Suarez: `Not even four yet.• Mr. Plummer: OK, but what I am getting at is, you're saying $5,000 -a month, you've'got'four months at $61,000. It is obviously not $5,000 a month. Dr.' "Daniels: No, what I was speaking of was just, the .cost: of the attorney,'; around'$5,000"a month, that's what has been happening with the attorney. 'Mr'.`` Plummer: 'Obviously that's... you know 'something is wrong, I'm,not questioning your wath, but four months would be $20,000.< . Dr. Daniels: OK... 'Mr. Plummer: Mr. Manager, if you don't give me the plus items I don't know ghat they are. Mayor Suarez: No, that was the legal services. What was the legal services? Hr. Odio: The legal services is $20,000 plus they need,a secretary:and:theq have `a consultant. Dr: 'Daniels: Are you asking about the total line items that we :are asking 3 for, the $61... �Miyor ': Suarez: You 'gave us. $5,000 peer", month; we also, heard a much 4 figure. He's mob. trying to reconcile the two. Legal fees is how much up toaow� k}4` Dr. Da4iola: Legal Ease, so far to this point, is about $14,910. Hayor Suarez: Theta what she meant.by $5,000.V what ,we have paid out so far... Mr ` I'lumm. r: �king Na, . but t:�tat RB.' . ' but . I am as the additio}iu1 �'b �n J rx �zr yQu'.re asking .on ,€pr this morning., }r � Dr. baniels: All right, let me run... you have, I believe in your package, —i you might h*ve received a breakdown of the operating expenses. We estifeate the legal advice at $32,000, the consultant that is working with the panel, that will write the final report that's drafting all of the documents, $15,600, a contract= court costs and legal fees, $7,500; communication services, $1,000; postage, office supplies, food printing, that adds up to $61,500 for the total. { Mr. Plummer: But $61,500 has been spent. Dr. Daniels: No. Mr. Plummer: It has not? Dr. Daniela: You appropriated $25,000 originally. All right, so far, Mr. Plummer:_ OK, and we told you to come back when you had a realistic budget. 1 Dr. Daniels: Right. f r5�` Mr. Plummer: And you are now back. Dr. Daniels: We're now back. Mr. Plummer: Will this $36,500 additional money, do you feel that that will asp carry through to the conclusion? Dr. Daniels: Through September 30th, yes, when we think that they should be completed. Mr. Plummer: That's fine, that's fine, you didn't explain it that way, or I - didn't understand it that way. I move item 15-B.Nt '= Mr. Dawkins: Second. Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded. Any discussion? Mr. Vice Mayor, are you OK with -the item? Is it going to be reviewed every month? Mr. .:Fernandez: It is reviewed. Mr. Longs bills first get sent to my.office.' �r I have an Assistant City Attorney assigned to this Committee also and we do cover -.most -of -the activities, if not all the activities thatthis., } h< partakes`in, in that many City staff are involved and we... 1 Mayor Suarez: Has anyone considered your staff _handling_,the.parliamentarq and..':, r meeting, aspects of the representation, letting them, if the outside'; ii consultants handle legal problems that may arise and not necessarily, be = present at=:all the meetings? Mr. Fernandez: Who, the -independent counsel? �(ti Mayor Suarez:- Right. Mr.: Fernandez: Thathas been a decision already made by the' rindepe`ndejie-, t_ Review:Psnel that. this is howthey want to proceed. We' still'mike-'ourselves tr available to consult with them and with Mr. Long. Mr. Long submits his atateraenta to us on, a monthly basis, we review them,we discuss 'it,, those statement with him. Mayor Suarez: OK, I got you on that, but as to the rest of the exp¢ases' Mr.,� Manager, Are your reviewing these: on: a monthly basis? Mr, Olio; : Dr. Dsniolp is . involved. in -that.. Mat b SPi. y f .. u+Iras. Ucause I .guess... thine request here 4ould'' over'' ►"ail ;, f `x* t ,r _ r t { tk•a��4b• Mr. Odio. Until September 30th. v }F ^ri - t Nr. Fernandez; Thrrough September. �.. - - '" f .;'s., T ;>. �` ,- ''fi fix_, • ; ' Snit-'S�� 7�`�"i"' 'S - — - n f � t F �.d 1 Mayor Suarez: I get the feeling from the Commission that this is about as far as we wanted to go at this point on funding and you know, I'd want to convey that to the committee that they've got to keep expenses down. Mr. Colliere We understand► Mayor Suarez: It's a constraint that we all have to live with what we are doing, whether we are doing good or not to good things here in the Conanissio114 Anything further on the item? Cali the roll. The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved its adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 89-436 A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION ALLOCATING AN ADDITIONAL AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED THIRTY-SIX THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS ($436,500.00) FROM SPECIAL PROGRAMS AND ACCOUNTS TO COVER EXPENSES TO BE INCURRED BY THE OVERTOWN INDEPENDENT REVIEW PANEL INVESTIGATING AND REVIEWING COMMUNITY RELATIONS BETWEEN POLICE OFFICERS AND RESIDENTS OF THE OVERTOWN AREA. - (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file'in the Office of the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Commissioner Dawkins, the resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote: AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Commissioner Rosario Kennedy Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins Vice Mayor Victor De Yurre Mayor Xavier L. Suarez NOES: None., ABSENT: None. Mayor Suarez: Thank you, Mr. Collier. - 17. APPROVE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS BID ADVERTISEMENTS. MayorSuarers~ Item 16, Marine Stadium structure repairs, estimated cost, $250,000; Grand Avenue Park building renovation estimated cost, 125,000. 7 Which 'park `is that? 'Is that the one on Grand? Mr. -Odios The one with the mushrooms, strange mushrooms, or... 1 Mayon Suarez: Oh boy, than needs improvement. -Dinner Key Marina, bay,Vaik `and landscaping and are you going to have a... -no, not the'mushrooms }` Mr. Odio: No, I'm sorry, _ Mayor Suarez: Grand Avenue Park is the one right here *n Grand Avenue. 'S Mr. Luis Prieto: That's right, and Jefferson. Mr.- Odio.�:, Is' that the one,Awith the mushroom?. somakndoiMayor Suaxeu4 And. are you going to'instail ca sp'rinkie� s�aemtr something -rthat. steeps the vegetat ion there ins a l ittle better ` ahapeY part ofthialfox' penditurs?.., h { I Mr, L Prieto: You're. referring to the Grand Avenue? 64twp Mayor" Suarez: Yet• r f S` 41' ; -_- Mr. Prieto: OK, the Grand Avenue includes replacing all the doors, windows. The rest room entrance has always posed a security problem and we are relocating the restroom entrance for safety. We're reroofing it, we are expanding the garage for storage, we are replacing the lighting, we are replacing the electrical panels and if possible, if the money lasts, we'll probably replace the air conditioning also. Mayor Suarez: I missed the answer as to irrigation. Does it include some kind of a sprinkler system that works over there? Is there a sprinkler system? I think there was a sprinkler system, but it just doesn't work, is that the problem on Grand Avenue Park? Mr. Prieto: We have no reference to... Mr. Al Ruder: Are you talking about irrigation for the grass or irrigation for fires in the building? For the grass, we've made some major repairs, but I'll... there's... Mayor Suarez: I don't know whether we were irrigating buildings yet, but... Mr. Ruder: No, I meant the fire... Mayor Suarez: Extinguisher system? Mr. Ruder: Sprinkler systems. This does not include that. This does not include irrigation for the grass. Mayor Suarez: $125,000 isn't... Mr. Ruder: It's part of the eight point three. Mr. Plummer: Well, let me ask a question. Are we speaking about the grass i only surrounding the little park area, or the total field? Mr. Ruder: No, this is just for the building. I think the Mayor was asking j if this included an irrigation system for this. - Mr. Plummer: Well, I saw City equipment cutting the grass out there the other day, which is what I would call the. football field. Is that on the City of, j Miami? ' I am questioning why the City was cutting it if it was not City = 1 property. t Mr., .Ruder: I. think it is. Mr. Plummer: OK, how much is the School Board paying us to use that park? Mr. Ruder: I think that's one of the ones where they give us 60 percent of the maintenance cost. Mr. Plummer; I-don'.t want a think. ` Mr. Ruder: I'll find out for you for sure, but... OK. Mr. Plummer: OK, because as I recall, there were only three parks in which the School Board was paying us 60 percent and I don't recall that as being one : of them. Mr. Ruder: OK, I'll check that out .and I'll get back to you. Mayor Suarez: Anything further on this item, Commissioner? Mr. Plummer .I have only , one .Question, Mr. Manager,:- in reference-:.. to Marine Stadium, ;:as I - read ;bare, ;you, :sre "talking ;bout;-str atural a�epaira: One of the mafon, problems of . the. Marir►e _S,t+sdium :ia the+ ;bathroom Uilllties .arid I { don't find ' anything,-improvements,enhaAcements to ,bathtcgom ,i'aciV tiara is not an eveAt ;phat,;_As bold. in�.that-*structµre =in:which portable ,johns required. ; My boat race is coming up on the 3rd. We had to arder':.20 potRo� �s�wli lets. 1h0 €ac,ility.R Mir,1 Odio,; You would have to do it anyway. because. ,the .Marine §tadi�um dQasn' tJtom, have the capacity .to' _ handle that crowd. ou;aids, , $o 'you .will havoo have t¢> t have 'the port ,o=lets no matter what we do to "the bathrooms. " 42�3 -- Mr. Plummer- Well, may 1 give... Mr. Odio: The bathrooms are brand new. We renovated them when we brought Phil Donohue down here. Mr Plummer: Mr. Manager, may I strongly recommend to you that adequate bathroom facilities be provided at the Marine Stadium? Mr. Odio: Were you saying to build facilities outside? Mr. Plummer: I'm not saying how you do it, OK? Mr. Odio: OK. Mr. Plummer: I'm saying to do it because it is an embarrassment to this City that you have a facility that you don't have adequate bathrooms. As good as _ port-o-lets are, they are not the same. Mr. Odio: We'll put it through the Capital Improvement project, Commissioner. Mr. Plummer: OK, find, can that be done in the same bidding procedure? Mr. Odio: No, we don't have the money this year for that. Mayor Suarez: OK, on 16 A, B and C, Commissioners, any further questions? Mr, Plummer: Where is the money coming from from the Dinner Key Marina? Is that ,from the bond issue? - Mr. Odio: Bond issue. All of these monies are coming from bond issues. Mr. Plummer: Fine, thank you. Mr. Odio: Mr Mayor, I'd like to.. Mayor -Suarez:' All right, if not... yes. Mr. Odio: by the way, introduce Dr. Luis Prieto, who has just joined us as.Director.of Public Works. He just started on Monday._, Mayor Suarez: Happy to see that Sergio Rodriguez is no longer the best dressed .man in the City, passed to number two. ...I,,wi11.,ask Al a..question�as soon.as we take up.,this item ;on another little problem we've been having with the County. I think you are aware of it and I hope to get it resolved today. f; Any discussion on this item? If not, I entertain,a motion an it. ir. Mrs.�Kennedy: Move it. Mayor Suarez-. Moved.' F �K Mr. Plummer: Second. 5 Mayor Suarez: Seconded. Call the roll. The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Kennedy, who moved: itsadoption: „ . - ,' _ ,j MOTION NO. 89-437 x� r �i a�ey k MOTION AUTHORIZING BID ADVERTISEMENTS FOR :'THE. , FOLLOWING CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT 'PROJECTS; A) ' STADIUM STRUCTURAL -REPAIRS (ESTIMQCOSTs PARK`•"�Hi1Il„D,3NG. �RB�Q[ATIOIiS r.,(BSTIM,ATSU� COST: $125,000} C} DINMR =Y,, "MARINA BAYWAJ.it 'AND xv<. '' LANASCAPING`(ESTI!lATED' COSTc tR900'r'000) , .r upp beinj,,)s9e omde nby Commissioner.tha m4tls�t�: wa�►r �ael�od fs��` � ;�� adopted by"the folloinq vote: rfti,?a iit Fx§ r s�, fi.>3Fi�#a643 r r .3 � ? r S F; t '` .� !' , r r- ,� s- � r � � 5 ry f � 1 •.is �r S.i� — r x { ; — ATES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Commissioner Rosario Kennedy Commissioner biller J. Dawkins _ Vice Mayor Victor De Turre Mayor Xavier L. Suarez NOES: None. = ABSENT: None. 18. (A) DISCUSS RAINBOW PARK HOUSING PROJECT - Request Manager to investigate Rainbow Park playground equipment condition. _ i (B) REQUEST REPORT FROM MANAGER REGARDING POSSIBLE SALE OF CITY -OWNED LAND OF NO VALUE. ------ ----------- Mayor Suarez: Commissioners, I've had a little running dispute that I want to - tell you about with the County HUD, over the condition of part of the Rainbow Village Housing Project, specifically the playground area and we have a mini - park there too, which is called Rainbow Village Park of the City. That'swell maintained, I want to commend you for that and to the extent that it wes, they move very quickly, Mr. Manager, but the basketball courts, swings and -"slides and some of the other playground equipment that's in that project where we had touch of the disturbance in January in the worst shape of anything. It is very dangerous, the slide is broken in I don't know how many places and it evokes the memory of that tragedy that took place in Fort Lauderdale where that,' 'I guess it was a little girl got killed by a slide. I've been trying to get HUD to move to improve this equipment or to replace it or to take it out or to do something. The bench there is corrugated iron of some sort and it is sticking up into the air, it is very dangerous and we can't. figure out who owns the k: land right now. Is it our jurisdiction, or is it the County? The County sent ' me'4 letter that it is our jurisdiction and if it were, I'm sure that you t- would move very quickly to correct it. I mean Risk Management would dictate +. that we'fix this anyhow. What is' -the latest? I mean, are we going to wait -- forever to figure out who owns this property? Mr. Al Ruder: I haven't seen that letter or anything, but I will look into it right away and make'sure that we take the appropriate action. .Mayor Suarez: But you were aware of the dispute, right? Or have we been Fs4 talking to the wrong people, is that... Mr. Ruder: It didn't come to my attention. Mayor Suarez: OK, I think it went to the leasing coordinator of the; City and Y. we're still trying to get it resolved, after two weeks. Let me tell you, that slide is `broken Ito the point' that''if a'kid gets on- it-, it' willjust -fall. mean', it is'``broken in about six places. The swings are just hanging down; it's totally... Mr. Ruder: OX, I will get together with the Lease Manager and make sure that.... r ;_ Mayor Suarez: ... dangerous. I don't think it is our property, but"I jugt want. to prove once again that we move a lot quicker than :some othez jurisdictions. Mr. Ruder: OK.} 4 Mr. Plummer: Question, Mr. Manager, this Commission asked, : sortie;, bitnej {_ about the sale of some of these little properties that are o no valuef rTf3 ' - i; i� �? Mr. Odio: We were preparing that to come -in with RFP'a'# 1Ir. Plummer: That was about six months_ ago, +} }k Mr. Odios We brought it to the Commission, it took; two'.mon.t s to cotpe r1�o that F b Commission.- We finally got 'a list looked at,. ;and then we'll come beck and. !V Y 44 � $�� •jje 1 rxr s 3= 3 ark � r 41 Mr. Pluzgmer: And that money now is going to be dedicated from the sale of those lands into the other parks. Mr. Odfo: You didn't say that. That's up to you. Mr. Plummert Nall, that'a exactly ghat we mean, because you are going to have less to maintain, OKI You are going to have less to maintain and more money to do it with, so I hope that we'll come to a realization there. NOTE FOR THE RECORD: At this point, Agenda item 17 was tabled until later this same meeting. 19. COMMISSIONER PLUMMER INDICATES NEED TO DISCUSS 2% TAX FOR RESTAURANTS. (This item was never taken up again for discussion during this agenda.) Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, in compliance with the new policy of the Commission, no new.items to come up until Vie end of the agenda, but I would like -to say before this Commission adjourns today, I would like discussion in reference to the two percent tax on restaurants and food and beverages, of which way, because I'm getting all kinds of signals so I would like it to be discussed before we leave here today. Mr. De Yurre: Well, is that on the agenda? Mr. Plummer: It's not. It's at the end of the agenda but before we leave, I think we need to discuss it. Mr. De:-Yurre:— But it's on the -agenda? Mr. Plummer:, It is? i'. Mr. De Yurre: I'm asking! Mrs. Kennedy: No. �i Mr. Plummer: No, it's not, that's why I am bringing it up. Mayor--Suarez: If we have time at:the end of -the day, I'11-be;happy.to report i on what I've been:trying:-to in;regards to it and see what the feeling-may.be.-` Mr. Plummer: I think it is very important to this City. I'll wait until the. zj and of -the day, --but before we leave, it must be discussed. i t _--—-------- —---------- --.r----------------- -------------- — 20. (A) FIRST READING ORDINANCE: Amend Code Sections 62-61 and 62-62 - Provide for advertising surcharge - Increase fees for application requests to review decisions of the Zoning Board, Zoning Administrator, or Director of Planning Department. (B) REQUEST ADMINISTRATION TO PROVIDE A MONTHLY REPORT CONCERNING ALL APPLICANTS WHO HAVE BEEN GRANTED A CHANGE IN ZONING BUT WHO FAIL TO APPLY FOR A BUILDING PERMXT WITHIN 18 MONTHS. Mayor Suarez: Item 20, Guillermo, is this yours? Mr. Olmedillo: 20, not really, but a little portion is ours and what I'd like to clear up, for the record, is that SPI-19 is not included in it. We recently advised the Law Department and they said it was OK to bring it as a floor amendment. It is only to add SPI-19 and that is on pages 3 of your package, page 4, where the changes will be included. Mayor Suarez: But it is all as to fees, right? - increase in fees? And there _ is no one from the general public here who wishes to be heard on item 20? That's good news. Mr. Plummer: Let me ask a question of the Department. These fees that are recommended, does that make your Department self-sustaining? Mr. Odio: No. Mr. Plummer: Why not? "■ Mr. .Genuardi: Well, it is taking us towards that, but not quite yet, because. Mr. "Plummer: No, no, why should the average taxpayer in this town have to pay for the developers who are making millions of dollars? —_ Mr.Genuardi: There is a certain percentage of services that we give, which do not generate permits or certificates or anything like that. Mr. Plummer: Then it's wiongl Mr. Genuardi: And so the.. d s �- ® Mr'. Rodriguez: If I may, this is going in the direction that you want to go. - { We are charging now the developers and the people that come for anything that 't they. want, an additional fee, because of the increase in the costs of advertisements that we have and this is. '= Mr. Pluaiiner: Why- doesn't this provide that the developers and everyone`el'se who are asking this City to allow them to recoup more monies... r Mayor Suarez: What he is proposing, if I may interrupt you, Commissioner,`i's that maybe somebody ought to analyze, assuming that we have the philosophy .that., this should be a self-supporting department and I'm kind of leaning in.>' the direction' of 'that, Commissioner Plummer is heading, that`- you take'' the entire'.budget 'necessary"to 'run this departient, divide It by the service a:; rendered and fi ure out away that you cover the entire thing, that is,,what,; he's... B Fv� Mr. Rodriguez: Definitely,'"ve are' going in that direction.�' t, 'Mr. Pluioimer:. ' Vhen? ' You told me that a year ago: Y� Mr, Rodriguez: We have' tripled 'the amount, riw '2 ifs Plummer: . yeyou cry poor mouth that you don't have any money 1 , 5 i r`v Mr. Rcdriguezi ` We are tripling 'the amount of 'fee's" that are.. , r Mr. Odiob Commissioner, four years ago you had zero fees. We are going slowly to try to get it... Mr. Plummer: Four years of wrong make a right, huh? 1<item<desc<gl<L<g2<No<g3 Mr. Odio: I mean, we had very low... Mayor Suarez: We hear the same answer everytime and here's my question is, are there some services, Mr. Manager... Mr. Odio: I didn't want to increase it all at one time. Mayor Suarez: ... that this department renders and I think Joe was trying to say that there were, which cannot be charged for, that inure to the benefit of every single department in the City? I guess there obviously are some that don't insure to the benefit of any particular developer or person that comes in with a zoning change. I mean, keeping the zoning code, although we probably don't want to get into that, having a zoning code and prescribing certain "re ulations to the citizens at large is a service and that costs g money. What else do you do that we cannot charge for? Mr. Genuardi: Well, the things that we do that we can't charge right now is when we get complaints and we have to go out and investigate for violations and if the violations... Mr. Plummer: You're getting that in code enforcement. Mayor Suarez: Well, there, you could charge the violator. Mr. Genuardi: Y:s, we could... Mayor Suarez: If there is - OK. Mr. Genuardi: We're going towards maybe having a fee for that too. Mr. Odio: Look, let' me explain something else on that department.. It sounds simple that, yes, we want to make it self sufficient and if we strive to go that way,=the construction industry permits dropped, considerably this year We have had what? -30 percent less permitting this year than we had last year. So you would have to have an adjustment on the rates immediately. Mr.`Plummer: No, you drop.. Mr:"Odiot In other words,,it, 's not that simple. Mr. -Plummer. No, no, no, no, whoa, whoa, whoa! You see, that's where.- you make your mistake. Mr. Odio: It's not that simple. It's not one and one. Mr:'Plummer: OK? If you have 30, percent less permits, less construction, then you should have 30 percent less administration.. Mr. Odio: You can't switch around inspectors because your permitting dropped` overnight.; Mr Plum:ners` "If you don't:.. hey, if the"Year before, you had 30 percent more and you had. X number of people... Mr, Odior OIC, the budget for" next year, Commiaaioner,, for '9Q.,,, Mr. Plummer: Is it 30percent less? ;k�y r� Mr. Odio: has been adjusted, It won't bey ,P, but it';s Mayor S%iitozI Well, you know where it breaks down, is if you .lagl� at the V3,peY pepartnient, If You got '30 percent loss,fires, You need 30 peroent '3e�1�r firefighters u, rY Mr, Plummer.`' We're not talking about Firs pepartments, Tl bt r F - ' �� t N� � � � A� • 11 Mr. Rodriguez: Let me say something else, as you know, we have increased the - efforts on code enforcement violations and we have quadrupled or quintuples the amount of effort that all over the City, so I think that we're doing pretty good. I'm surprised that we don't have people... Mr: Plummer: Why should I as a homaowner and a taxpayer in this community have to subsidize a builder who's making millions? It's wrong! Mr. Rodriguez: We agree. We're going to go with more fees before you increase the fees. Mr. Plummer: When? Mr. Rodriguez: We keep coming to you almost every Commission meeting. Mr. Plummer: When? Mr. Rodriguez: Next Commission meeting, we'll come with more fees before you. Next Commission meeting on June. Mr. Plummer: Guys, I want to tell you something. Don't even invite me to - OK? I'm going to tell you now, no. this year's budget hearings, Mr. De Yurre: Well, let me tell you because one thing that we have to F understand is, you know, if the developer- is developing, there are people benefiting from that work. The same theory applies with the tourist_ industry. Why < does the City give a hundred thousand dollars to this bureau and that to promote the City if it isn't to help the hotel industryT So what about the rest of the people that don't have nothing to do with the hotel industry? They have... e wz Mr. Plummer: That has no bearing on it. Mr. De Yurre: Well, sure they do, it's the same thing. Mr. Plummer: No it doesn't, no it doesn't. Let me tell you where you're wrong. !-r_I >voted.. to give them a hundred thousand dollars because they are giving me back $135,000 worth of brochures to supplement and implement my. tourist commission., I would not give them a hundred thousand dollars otherwise. t Mr.,..De Yurre:-,;-But. who benefits from the tourist commission? You, know, ,I mean F °like it's.not --if you're. going to argue that why help out the developer, the same theory.applies.:with..the tourist industry.,.You.know, why help the ourist • sue` industry? Why, help the hotels? Why? Because in the long run, it trickles "- down and people that live in the community benefit from it. Same thing applieswith.the.construction industry. Mr.. -Plummer; Well, I... Mayor Suarez: And the benefit trickles down and also the expense. If you just put all. the burden on the developers, that means the housin is pin to, cost a lot more. I mean, I - if it's -as to residential housing, I'21 tell,you that, Mr. Rodriguets But following your direction, we'll come back with more fee$ 4isereases and... you can decide as a policy decision what you want to do with it next time. i. Mayor Suarez:, ' I'm .not convinced, the department has to be self, supporting but I am happier heading in the direction of more - closer to.self supporting,.,,.,,.,,,. liisat-", is, it ..now? What, percentage have you - 'can you cover.'do YOU"think, 'the.entire:budget, Miss Fuentes? F f Fr Ms. Edith Fuentes: We're about 75 to 80`percent enterprise. . tie dam; � yHr. i Plummer:: You're doing �;.. getter. Mayor $uiraz; OK. I'll entertain a motiota oa item 20. Mr. OdI t : I„thought, I. r �' Mayor Suarez: Yes, you're going in the right direction. And it's good to see that we don't have a bunch of people protesting. There is a point at which the fees, themselvesi will create a disincentive to the building which will mean that instead of having 30 percent less permits, you might have even less permits, in which case, you're not going to produce the fees and then you have the vicious cycle. And you have no activity at all, no commercial activity in the City. Ms. Fuentes: Can I....? Mayor Suarez: At your own risk. It's going pretty well so far, I think. Ms. Fuentes: No, I just want to add, yesterday at the construction industry advisory board's monthly meeting, I mentioned to them the proposed increase in -- some of the fees and they said, as long... —= Mayor Suarez: They cheered. Ms. Fuentes: ... and they said they don't have any objection as long as the level of service is going to be maintained or it's going to be improved. '- Mr. Plummers See, I'm not worried about the construction industry because they don't pay it, OK? They billed for a developer who's making millions, OK? Now, the construction industry, they don't pay those fees because they're passed on in their bid to build that building for a developer who's making an _= awful lot of money. That's where I'm saying that I, as a taxpayer, should not = have to subsidize that man who's making a lot of money. And that's what we're doing when we're not at a hundred percent. Mayor Suarez: I'll entertain a motion on item 20, please. To my left. Mr. Plummer: I want to vote no to give them a message, but I'll move the item because -I think they got the message. Mayor Suarez: Thank you. Somebody second. �. Mrs. Kennedy: Second. Mayor.Suarez: Second. r; Mr..Plummer: As. the same, number, as the item is,' you're 20 percent`:belowritem on .20. I'm -;looking. -- and I can't speak for . others - but I'm damn sick and . _ . tired of subsidizing developers. I'll move it now because it's a step in the 'right direction.` But -I want you to come back with item number a hundred, item a hundred is a hundred percent. Mr. Rodriguez: We'll bring it back to you next Commission meeting. Mayor Suarez: Motion and seconded. Any discussion? If not, read the lordinance,. Mr.' City Attorney. ON ` MOTION `DULY MADE., BY 'COMMISSIONER PLUMN R AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KENNEDY, THE EMERGENCY ORDINANCE FAILED BY THE FOLLOWING 'VOTE:54. FIRST ROLL CALLS AYES Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.As -Commissioner Rosario Kennedy 4 Commissioner Miller Dawkins Mayor Xavier L°. Suarez ti NOES b Yice Mayor Victor De Yurrey` ABSENT: ' <Nonq SECOND:: ROLI;,- CALL . % rrVV y � AYES: None. NOES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Cofoisaioner Rosario Kennedy Commissioner Miller Dawkins Vitt Mayor Victor bt Yurre Mayor Xavier L. Suarez ABSENT: None. i COMMENTS MADE DURING ROLL CALL: Mr. Plummer: Wait a minute! Why is there a second roll call? Mr. Rodriguez: Emergency. Mr. Jorge Fernandez: This is, as I announced, this is an emergency ordinance requiring two votes and four -fifths. Mr. Plummer: That means you all goofed off too damn long and procrastinated that you throw it up here on an emergency and you don't want two hearings where people can come talk about it. I will not vote for a second emergency ordinance reading now. No. Mayor Suarez: OK, do we have to restate it as a first reading? Ms. Hirai: Excuse me. - Mayor Suarez: Complete the roll call, please. ,* Ms. Hirai: I would like to call the second roll call. Mrs. Kennedyt Well, yes, I'm... Mr. Plummer: Excuse me, I'm stating for the record that 1'm"- voting no on a t. F - second roll call because I'don't think it's an emergency:' Mayor Suarez: We got you and I just want to make sure that we get a first: reading,. in Mrs. Kennedy: And I have to agree with, that because you cut off a second =zed public hearing so for the same reason', I have to vote no. �. . . MsHirai: Mr. Dawkins votes no. ' q Mayor Suarez: Why don't we make it unanimous. COMMENTS MADE FOLLOWING ROLL CALL: Mr. Plummer: Now, does it take effect in law as to first reading` haspassed? h11 Mayor`'Suarez: ` OK that's``what I want to clarify. ;r Mr. Fernandez: Well, no, you have to... Mr. Odio: No, that's why you have to wait. xkYT` Mr' -."Rodriguez:' No.*£x Mr Plummer: I now move it on "first reading. � `�' ' Mr. Fernandez Right. lf. x gAF d Mayor`Suarez: -Nove"it'on fList` rim adIns Thank you; Nra: Kennedy: a"6ecoad Hayor"r5uarez: Call the roll on y first readip$, S is dit'? z;s.S "/NTfikFk `{'�, - i Mr. Fernandez: It's already been read. , kLL,� 1 _:?ij. � !" a. '_ k, t r } r •. ro�.:: A? t,'+.: � '� �- \K �t fi Hr. Roca guet ' A *Snood • k — tq Mr. Fernandez: As amended. Mayor Suarez: My vote on the second reading before was a no. - Mr. Plummer: Wait a minute, what was the amendment? Mr. Rodriguez: SPI-19. Mr. Fernandez: SPI-19 that was added. Mr. Rodriguez: Was left out. Mr. Plummers Oh, oh, OK. Mr. Odios You lost four months of.... Mr. Plummer: No, you lost four months of revenue by not bringing it up before. Mr. Odio: We couldn't do it. Mr. Plummer: You couldn't do it, right, you didn't have the people. No money. I'm going to get a tape recorder and I can rid of the City Manager. _ Mayor Suarez: Debate is closed on this item, please call the roll. AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED - AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTIONS 62-61 AND 62-62 OF THE CODE OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA, AS AMENDED, BY - INCREASING ZONING AND PLANNING RELATED FEES; PROVIDING FOR,AN-ADVERTISING SURCHARGE;_ FURTHER INCREASING FEES CONCERNING APPLICATION REQUESTS FOR REVIEW OF DECISIONSOF THE ZONING BOARD, ZONING ADMINISTRATOR OR DIRECTOR OF THE DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING; -AND CONTAINING A REPEALER PROVISION AND A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE. Was introduced by Commissioner Plummer and seconded by Commissioner ' Kennedy and,was passed. on its first reading.by title by the following vote: AYES; Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.: Commissioner'Rosario Kennedy:. _= -Commissioner Miller Dawkins.` Mayor Xavier L. Suarez NOES: Vice Mayor Victor De Yurre ABSENT:._;, . None. , H The CityAttorney read the ordinance into the Y public recordand announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commission and to the public. COMMENTS MADE FOLLOWING ROLL CALL: L Mr.. Plummeri- Mr...Mayor, I. would ask, whether it's in motion form or not; that. from this,. -:day. forward,,that, all:;ok;esnges .of zoning by this. CommiasiaA in which a 7 •� permit ' in not f k p pulled, I would like a list furnished to this Coamission, all of , Us I !on ti�ose. items. that - a. permit 'is , not pulled within 12 months, after` the � change ;',of zoning takes effect.; Mayor .Sutarez: Yes because we --did pass enact an ordnance that said rezluixed at�Y someF4t9P to,,be tA)Ken :if rafter; 777Z.MF• PTuunae,�� No it,'s not treen passed yet. Kv, Eodriguot f : XQn .should. rQcaiva a caady today a- memo,..that oxpdaiaa you ihy c you ca not "dA th f -but`-we 'can do-something.`alae;3nstead 'ilSR 4 "q • R+1 Y ''$ T! no no. t'Sw,ytr` 1'Cj' : , You can give me a list,ts. e `L !f �-e5n�a i�:��a3,.s r. „`—'', rs .. k. F. . ,.a. ... . .,-, i .. S.. .. . .- . t.-c�_s-..?. 5s• „. r'' _ i== Mayor Suarez: He just wants a list. Mr. Rodriguez: You have a law, you have a requirement by law that you cannot bring items before 18 months after the action has been taken by the Commission. Mr. Plummer: OK, but I can still... Mayor Suarez: Would you give the Commissioner a list of those that have not moved on their building permit after twelve months. - Mr. Plummer: I'll modify my request to 18 months. OK? Mr. Rodriguez: We'll do that. Mayor Suarez: Make it 18 months. Mr. Plummer: That anyone who has not pulled a permit within 18 months after their change of zoning, that that list be provided on a monthly basis to this - Commission. Mr. Rodriguez: We'll do that. Mr. Plummer: The other question, when is the transitional elimination coming — before this Commission? - Mr..Rodriguez: I just rescheduled it for the meeting of the 25th. Mr. Plummer: Thank you, sir. 21. SECOND READING ORDINANCE: Amend Code Section 54-100 - allow for construction: and location of guard houses.in,dedicated right-of-way.,..,,..- Mayor Suarez: Item,21:. - "r. Plummer: Oh, I got a better one for you. Mr. Jorge Fernandez: Yes, in item 21 we met with individuals who, at the, last meeting, had,. -some - concerns about it.,- We incorporated their concerns, we've met, with. the . administration and. the ordinance .that's in -front :of, you now.for' r second and ',final reading ;,reflects everyone's. concurrence. This is4- Ord inance'amending :that code provision that would allow, building of a guard, h?� house, in the dedicated right-of-way. Mayor Suarez: This is a second reading of the ordinance that would enable to 'k do this but.no specific guard house,is approved at this point `.or &nything,.,. . .: x Mr. Fernandez: Correct, correct..)# Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I will move it with the full understanding of` all.. parties concerned that in no .way are we approving a.guard,house. That each, .x application ,would have to_ come before this Commission,, stand .ori its ,: `and., q the, -Commission.is.,fully empowered to make any and all resolve that it wishes ' on thatYparticulai site, including denial. l -� Mr. Fernandez Correct, that's' the way it 'reads. Mr Plummer: I move it. L Mr.', Fernandez 'Guard house$ are..permitted by revocable permitsr:gra�p.edby'tfi>} 4�"# - - C. xy jComaai$siont : :That means that it must � come to you :and _that qou usb � Approve or disapprove. y; a "', Zi, Mr. Plummer: As a revocable permit, ''it must -be, approved .by this 'Comm , y F E# deYt}Q9!- i1;.NA pax F .j 1 Mr. Plummer: ... the color, and this Commission has the right to impose any rules and regulations it wishes in granting such. Mr. Fernandez: However, let me clarify for you one... Mr. Plummer: And also, as a revocable permit, it can be pulled within 30 days. Mr. Fernandez: As to a governmental agency and here we're talking about Metropolitan Dade County establishing a taxing district to be able to - accomplish this for the neighborhood. I understand, in speaking. with Metropolitan Dade County that they will not approve the taxing district if the condition of a revocable permit is placed upon them. That is a consideration that I'm informing you of so, therefore, we made provisions here in the ordinance and you should be aware of it that as to governmental entities, they may construct guard houses upon approval by the City Commission and for governmental entities, such as Metropolitan Dade County, we have not stated the requirement of a revocable permit. Did you understand that? Mr. Plummers No. Mr. Fernandez: OK, let me state it clear. There are two levels of - requirement in this ordinance in front of you. First of all, the general requirement that to build guard houses on the right-of-way, public right-of- way, can only be done by revocable permit. However, in the case where the government, our governmental entity, will be building the guard house, then a revocable permit is not a requirement. Mr. Plummer: Oh, well that's not the intent and what's before us is nothing in relation to the taxing district. Mrs. Kennedy: No, no, no. Mr. Plummer: That has nothing to do, as I understand and read what's before me right here, is only an ordinance allowing it to be done. The taxing district we understand, is done by Metropolitan Dade County. Now, it is further my understanding, that government is not going to be building the guard house because if you do, you've got to go through all the bidding procedures and everything that once that fund is established, it will be done, whether it's a taxing district or solicitation of donations by the given association or group. It has to be. Mr. Fernandez: The way I understand this is that Metropolitan Dade County does, in fact, do the building of the guard house. It is their special taxing district and they're the ones who do the building and they will not, they have advised me, whether we're talking now about a specific neighborhood or just in general, that they will not undertake to build any guard houses in any public right-of-way to which they only have a revocable permit. Mr. Plummer: Then, that particular parcel of public right-of-way, according to our charter, would have to go out for bidding. It would have to go out.,. Sure,. it would have. It's public g property, it would have to go out for bidding'procedure as far as who Is going to have the use of that property. Me. Fernandez: No, not necessarily. For governmental entity, our charter provisionprovides that there is an exception for governmental` entities' for governmental purposes. Mr. Plummer: Yes, but it's not Dade County's property. } Mayor Suarez: OK, but... Mr. Fernandez`: Yes, it will be Dade County s proparty. ys Me Dawkins: 'Vh'? Mr Plummer: Then, if we think that its a bad deal,'►e can't remove°it? 'r Mayor'Suarez: - We revoke the permit and mootMr, Plummer: Well, but he's saying that they won't build it. if It :Q» FE revocable permit. , h tx � z Mayor Suarez: All right, to how do we solve it, Mr. City Attorney? What are you suggesting we do here so we can get moving on this item? Mr. Fernandez: I have given you the flexibility so that if it's a governmental entity, they can build it without a revocable permit that they could get a greater interest or more permanent interest than by way of an agreement which would not necessitate bidding of any sort. Mr. Plummer: Yes, but just... Mayor Suarez: An easement of some sort or a... Mr. Fernandez: Yes. Mr. Plummer: See, my problem, Mr. Mayor, is and the fear, I think, of the people. who are in opposition is a real fear that that guard house will not be as we understand it and that is nothing more than someone there to copy down license tags. That you get some crazy nut in there some night who wants to stop the world and detain them and do and if that were to occur, I think that was what we, the Commission, was reserving the right to say, hey.... Mayor Suarez: Yes, we don't want to give away our police powers in any way. Mr. Plummer: ... that's not permissible and we're going to pull the permit, you can't have the guard house. —� Mayor Suarez: Right. Mr. Plummer: Now, that's the problem that I see. Mayor Suarez: Are you satisfied, Mr. City Attorney, that this cannot happen with the present ordinance as proposed? Have you built in sufficient safeguards on that? Mr. Fernandez: Well, this ordinance presently... Mr. Dawkins: No, this ordinance builds in that the County can do that. Mr.,Fernandez: Right. _ Mr. Dawkins: And we're telling him that that's not what we can vote for... Mayor.Suarez: What's the solution then? ® Mr.; Fernandez: That's correct. Mayor Suarez: What's the solution then? I hear a lot of problems, I don't hear any solutions. i-- Mr. ;Fernandez: I don't know that. I necessarily have specific. solution or recommendation,, Mr. Mayor, I think it's up, to the wisdom ofIthis _Commission what they would like,to be the policy of the City. If you car... Mayor Suarez: Well,,see, of the City's, we'd like to allow a guard houses as: long as we don't pay for them, as long as we can remove them if we don't like. ba-= the way they're functioning. Mr. Dawkins: Period. ; Mayor Suarez: It's all the force. Mr.:Fernandez; ' ' but what I'.m teIlin you as , e .,utter, of racticalit is ` the best, infox'tmati w Well we would provision" P. y pn that I ktave , f Metropolitan Dade County.isthat any group of :citizens that goes tq, them amd aaA, t-weAwant a.=special ;taking .cist.xct 'tg4buld: a: guar¢: house; a3�d:..'they.,tl#4n. look: inip;gbu#jd S of the guard house and al I': that the :City of MiatAi wild �e giving would be! a revocable permit, that will eventually„turn ;into,`a inu3it rA. because Mfttropolitan ; ?ads; County, would not than :. FP• Oes R,+sxing:Fdiatict. tg r n t al 2 3 ; dpii�'jr Mr. Dawkins% But, you see Mr. City Attorney, that's not the City of Miami's problem. Mr. Fernandez: Correct. Mr. Dawkins: That's Dade County's problem. Mr. Fernandez: Correct. Mr. Dawkins: Now, it's up to the citizens to go to Dade County and solve that problem. See, you have built in Dade County's problem in with the City of Miami. We wanted this passed to make it feasible to prepare - T mean, to give a guard house. Now, that's all we interested in. Mr. Fernandez: Fine. Mr. Dawkins: Then the fact that the County will or will not do this, that's not our problem, I don't think. That's the County's problem. Mr. Fernandez: I just wanted to make you aware so then very easily... Mr. Dawkins: Say, I wish you had not but since you did, I don't care. Mr. Fernandez: OK. So, if what you want is a revocable permit... Mayor Suarez: You know, Mr. City Attorney, you make us aware of a lot of problems, but I don't hear any solutions. Do you have any other instrument, other than a revocable permit, that fulfills the purposes of this Commission that will not create a problem when they do to the County for - do you have it? If not, then tell me you don't. Mr. Fernandez: We can always put reverter provisions. We don't know whether the County will accept those or not, I cannot unilaterally speak for the County. I could try to ensure that the wishes of this Commission are carried _ out but I cannot assure you whether the other party, the County, will be accepting them. If your position is that you want to have ultimate control _ over the guard houses, because you may decide, at some future date, to get rid -�. of them, then the best vehicle is a revocable permit. Mayor Suarez: Where does it say that the County will not approve guard houses t where there's a,revocable permit for the use of the 'right-of-way? Mr. Fernandez:' I am relaying to you conversations'`that'my office'`has had with the office of Public Works for Metropolitan Dade County. - Mayor Suarez: So it is not a mandate or regulation or an' ordinance of the County? 'L Mr. Fernandez: I don't believe .so although in chapter 18 of"the*.—. Mayor Suarez: All right, well I'll well, I don't know, unless the. -rest of �- the Commission has a problem with " this item as phrased, I'll move ' the::: , I d mean, I'll entertain a motion on the ordinance. You can solve it later like Commissioner Dawkins says, they can solve it later with the County. We don't"- even know that this will not be acceptable to the County. . ... s 1[, Mr. Dawkins: That's right, and you'have built anything in, here other than<•' revocable. Mr. Fernandez: No, I have built something else in here besides...« Mr. Dawkins% Take it out right now. Mr. Fernandez: OK. Fine. Mr. Dawkins: OK? And then I'll move, I can move itTake it out. you taking "out- now? Mr. FerhAAhdezt I'm taking out that as'to governtpeAtal` Qatities,, they ; naus r t` x `�'. also be aaubjact to the revocable permit. 3 had, do -LWF li Dawkins: OK take that outs OK now #3 - Mr. Fernandez: Ok. Mr. Dawkins: ..= now, let me ask you before I make the motion in this manner, you said you talked with staff... Mr. Fernandez: Yes. Mr. Dawkins: And staff informed you... - Mr. Fernandez: Yes. Mr. Dawkins: ... of this. Mr. Fernandez: Yes. — Mr. Dawkins: You did not tell me that you talked with five Commissioners who have to vote on this and they said they would not do it. Is that right or wrong, sir? Mr. Fernandez: That's correct. _ Mr. Dawkins: All right, so, therefore, the citizenry have a right to go petition the Commission to get their wishes. Is that right, sir? Mr. Fernandez: Correct. _ Mr. Dawkins: All right, so I move it with a revocable permit. _ Mr. Plummer: In. Mr. Dawkins: In it. Mr. Fernandez:. In it, right. Very clear. Mayor Suarez: OK,, so. moved and seconded. Please read the. ordinance .as modified.. Call :.the roll. r AN ORDINANCE . - l3 — AN. ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTION-- 54-100 -OF THE -CODE -_OF. = THE; CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA, AS AMENDED, TO ALLOW FOR - THE CONSTRUCTION AND LOCATION OF GUARDHOUSES IN THE 3= .DEDICATED RIGHT.. -OF -WAY: PROVIDED THAT THE GUARDHOUSES CONFORM TO THE CITY OF MIAMI'S ENGINEERING STANDARDS =a FOR DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION; PROVIDING FOR A REPEALER;' PROVISION AND A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE. Passed,; on Its first reading � by title at - ti;e meeting of- April .13; : 1989.. was taken up :for. its.second and final :reading by.title and adoption. On motion of Commissioner Dawkins, seconded by Commissioner Kennedy,the "k Ordinance was thereupon given its second and final reading by title and passed and adopted by the following vote: AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Commissioner Rosario Kennedy Commissioner Miller Dawkins Vice Mayor Victor De YurreAH Mayor Xavier 'L.: Suarez, NOES: - ;Nose... N ARSE THE ORDINANCE WAS..DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO.'10582. z ;Tba x.-c4ty. .:attorney,, read. :the :ordlu4nce,j.�into the publics rout „mod'' `s;<"� k !•'7q.i° §. x�"'C` �4': '�` n iSQ.i: teSP' 'k C,+Fm+"" �aa d f __—-------------- - - 22. SECOND READING ORDINANCE: Amend 10484 - increase appropriations in Internal Service Fund/General Services Administration/Fleet Management by $3,400,280. Mayor Suarez: Item 22. Second reading, annual appropriations ordinance for the fiscal year ending September 30th, 1989. Moved. Mr. Plummer: Second. Mayor Suarez: Seconded. Any discussion? If not, read the ordinance. THEREUPON, THE CITY ATTORNEY READ THE ORDINANCE INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD, BY TITLE ONLY. Mayor Suarez: Call the roll. Mr. Dawkins: Under discussion. Mayor Suarez: Commissioner Dawkins. Mr. Dawkins: Mr. Williams, nine hundred and twenty-seven thousand dollars. What equipment? Mr.'Ron Williams: That's for police patrol vehicles. Mr. Dawkins: Police patrol? Mr. Williams: Yes. Mr. Dawkins: Thank you. z Mr. Plummer: Well, wait a minute. That's not a full answer. That nine hundred and twenty-seven thousand, but what is the total for fleet patrol? Mr. Williams::: Police patrol. All of them are police patrol, Commissioner.'',,,, Mr. -Plummer: But is that... in other words, are you saying.at a total -,cost -of w - -nine:twenty-seven? '. -- Mr. Williams: Oh, no, no, no. Let me clarify. Mr. Dawkins: ;,All of these ,cars... you're saying that this buys police fleet... -X- Mr. Williams:; Police patrol cars and to fully answer the Commissioner's - question, and support equipment, i.e., light bars, cages, etcetera. Mr. Plummer: Of the three... Mr. Dawkins: t- All right, now what's supportive equipment? �x Mr. Williams: Light bars, cages, equipment that's required in order to equip` ss. a police patrol vehicle. Mr. Dawkins: Tires, radios... Mr. Williams: No.�- Mr. Plummer: No, no, this is initial purchase. :� = Mr. Odio:. Computers,y Mr. Plummer; Of the' three million nine, how touch of; that': is `fox patrol vehicles and supportive for those patrol 'vehicles? It's going to;' ba lot S YT morel.s��x�� ,' H',Williams: xhe three tniliari nine; Commissioner, to explain:"it, I vndOr` stand: it, the complete debt service on the OOB �O$xti ica o �a�Y -- �� .r � _-s��m .. !"�. Participation) notes. This particular purchase, or this particular most recent transaction is for those police cars that you approved that required replacement that had reached two year replacement criteria. Mr. Plummer: Of the three million nine, how much of that is going for police patrol vehicles? Mr. Williams: At this point, nine twenty seven. Mr. Plummer: On this order. Mr. Williams: On this order. Mr. Odio: We will come back, I hope, in the meeting of June with a new replacement policy for police cars. We're working with the FOP on that. Hopefully, we'll have a solution by the first meeting in June. Mr. Plummer: Call the roll. Mayor Suarez: Read the ordinance. — Mr. Plummer: I thought you read it. Mr. Fernandez: I read it already, the ordinance. AN ORDINANCE AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTION 3 AND 5 OF ORDINANCE NO. 10484, ADOPTED SEPTEMBER 27, 1988, THE ANNUAL APPROPRIATIONS ORDINANCE FOR THE FISCAL YEAR ENDING SEPTEMBER 30, 1989, BY INCREASING THE APPROPRIATIONS IN THE INTERNAL SERVICE FUND: GENERAL SERVICES ADMINISTRATION; FLEET MANAGEMENT BY $3,900,280, INCREASING REVENUES IN THE SAME AMOUNT CONSISTING OF $927,000 FROM CERTIFICATE OF PARTICIPATION NOTES AND $2,973,280 FROM UTILITY SERVICE TAXES, CONTAINING A — REPEALER`PROVISION AND A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE Passed on its firstreading by title at the meeting of April 1341989 was :taken up for its second and final reading by title and adoption. On motion of Commissioner De Yurre, seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the: Ordinance was thereupon given'its second and final reading:by title and passed X, and adopted by the following vote: AYESi ` ' Commissioner J. L. Plummer Jr. = Commissioner Rosario Kennedy Commissioner Miller`Dawkins` Vice Mayor Victor De Yurre Mayor Xavier L Suarez NOES: ..• None. ABSENT: None. s THE ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO. 10583. •.+ r `'.i_ C.. -..r }! _ 7"f.l, '�,raa ,,h.'N � F?;�3.F'S ��z — i " iis ah t r i't 1. 7 IS +CA tT `t� v SP.i2 7 ts. IN _— .-----------r---------r--------------.r...-w...----r-r-iraw.wr 23. SECOND READING ORDINANCE: Amend 10521 - establish new project: "Preliminary Special Obligation Bond Expense FY 189 ($140,000) - Appropriate funds from bond proceeds. ------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Mayor Suarez: Item 23. Moved by Vice Mayor. Mr. Dawkins: Second. Mayor Suarez: Seconded. Any discussion? Read the ordinance. AT THIS POINT THE CITY ATTORNEY READ THE ORDINANCE INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD BY TITLE ONLY. Mayor Suarez: Call the roll. - Mr. Plummer: Wait, wait, wait. What are we proposing to do here? What is this money going to be used for? Not the hundred and forty, I've got that breakdown. Mr. Odio: Financial advisors fee. Bond printing expense. = Mr. Plummer: No, I mean, this is to sell a bond? Mr. Odio: Rating agents. Mr. Carlos Garcia: That's right. There's an item... Mr. Plummer: And how much is the bond proposed that we're going to sell from this? Mr. Garcia: That is item 31 on the agenda, Commissioner...` +: Mr. Plummer: How much is it? Mr. Garcia: . and we're talking this time about 'not' `Co exceed 6. 5 million dollars...-41 Mr: Plummer: OK. And you're` telling me that a' statement 'and: printing $25,000? Mr: Garcia: That was the original estimate. At this time, we know that the number is much lower than that. There is another item on the agenda today'' which I think asks for the printing to be in - the vicinity of $10,000. Mr. Plummer: Well, then why is this number still on the agenda? Mr.' Garcia: This was done well before the other item was obtained and this is.. Mr. Plummer: Carlos, somewhere, you,know, and.I'm not finding fault with you, personally. You're telling me to'sell that bond issue, I've got to'spend $8,000 to advertise? Something's wrong. Mr. Garcia: That's very likely. That's very likely. We,need to. advertise, the ondBuyeiNeYorw Commiassioner It ` not'` a igcai �# newspaper;.' That articular'itcm ie'`a ood iteia'thou h the advertisin P g 8: 6 ,{ , r 4 Mr. Plummer: Something is..: — INAUDIBLE COMMENTS NOT ENTERED INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD.' r — Mr. Plummer: No, I'm not saying that we don'.t sell _the . baac�a;i Mr. Ma�#age:t, I'm saying that .we need to find a way to cut the cost..of . prsparip'l, — bond issue. These numbers just Beam .� you know, when yovi atart , t llci,a8,, official statement rating expense at twent =f i,vo thiou; --. ,; how`, man --~ r r ` ".. P Y Y +�Qpiss do r 4 you print? Mr. Garcia: Right now, we're printing about 2,000 copies and that is a requirement of the BBC (Security and Exchange Commission) They have some new requirements that have increased the number of... Mr. Plummer: Can we do it in=house? Mr. Garcia: No, sir, we need a financial printer for that and we need to do very quick, we need to do those statements very quickly and as 1 said, a minimum of 2,000 copies. Mr. Plummer: OK. Go to the poor house in a limousine. I just think that -- it's out of... Mr. Garcia: OK, and these are only estimates. We expect the cost to come within these estimates, well, in some cases, well below like in the case of the printing of the financial statements. In other cases, the numbers that we have here are very tight numbers. Mr. Plummer: Go ahead. Mayor Suarez: Did you read the ordinance? Mr. Fernandez: Yes, I've read it. Mayor Suarez: Call the roll. AN ORDINANCE - AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTION 1 OF ORDINANCE NO. 10521, AS AMENDED, ADOPTED NOVEMBER 17,=, 1988, THE _ CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS APPROPRIATIONS ORDINANCE,-; BY ESTABLISHING= A NEW PROJECT, ENTITLED "PRELIMINARY SPECIAL OBLIGATION BOND EXPENSE FY189", PROJECT NO. 311013 IN THE AMOUNT OF $140,000' APPROPRIATING FUNDS IN SAID AMOUNT FOR SAID PROJECT FROM BOND PROCEEDS; "' a CONTAINING A REPEALER PROVISION.AND A SEVERABILITY: CLAUSE, Passed on its first reading .by title at - the meeting of April ,13, 1989-,. was taken- up. for its ;second and final reading by title and adoption. On = motion_ of Commissioner De Yurre, seconded by Commissioner Dawkins, the 'r Ordinance was thereupon given.its second and final reading by title and passed' and adopted by the following.vote AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Commissioner Rosario Kennedy ® Commissioner Miller Dawkins Vice. Mayor Victor De Yurre Mayor Xavier L. Suarez NOES: None. "4 ABSENT: None. THE ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO. 10584.. #{ COMMENTS MADE DURING ROLL CALL: Mr. Plummer. -,As much as I hate it, I got to vote yes. We've got to have the.-Ill bond money but damn, I'think they can find away to cut, down on the cost..-', '-yt k -, 24. SECOND READING ORDINANCE: Amend 10455 by increasing appropriation to special revenue funds: "JTPA Title I/Older Worker (FY 189)" and "JTPA Title IIA/Neighborhoods Jobs Program (FY 189)" for operation of Neighborhood Jobs Program. ...� _-------- ----------------------------------------------- Mayor Suarez: Item 24. Mr. Plummer: Move it. Mayor Suarez: JTPA (Job Training Partnership Act) Moved. Am I right? Do I hear a second? Mr. Dawkins: Oh, she's not here? Yes, second. Mayor Suarez: Seconded by Commissioner Dawkins. read the ordinance. Call the roll. AN ORDINANCE - Any discussion?. If not, AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTION 1 OF ORDINANCE 10455, ADOPTED JULY 14, 1988, BY INCREASING THE APPROPRIATION TO THE SPECIAL REVENUE FUND ENTITLED "JTPA TITLE I/OLDER WORKER (FY189)" BY $600, THEREBY INCREASING THE APPROPRIATION FOR SAID SPECIAL REVENUE FUND TO 421,100; ALSO INCREASING THE APPROPRIATION TO THE SPECIAL REVENUE FUND ENTITLED "JTPA TITLE IIA/NEIGHBORHOODS JOBS PROGRAM (FY189)" BY $51,617, THEREBY INCREASING THE APPROPRIATION FOR SAID SPECIAL REVENUE FUND TO $543,457 FOR THE OPERATION OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS JOBS PROGRAM. Passedon its first reading.by title at the meeting of April 13, 1989, was taken up for its second and final reading by title and adoption. On R motion of Commissioner Plummer, seconded by ..Commissioner Dawkins, the Ordinance was thereupon given its second and final reading by title and passed and adopted by the following vote:.. —F AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Commissioner Rosario Kennedy Commissioner Miller Dawkins Vice Mayor Victor De Yurre Mayor Xavier L. Suarez NOES: None. ABSENT: None THE ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO. 10585. The City Attorney read .the, ordinance_ into the public record_ and announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commission and to the, public. ti A 41 f t t Cct }u . t yt� { �j''„f u AM }Y :: • S;x.,-. ... h'; .. ... ,r, vr,.t i�;a➢ Lam' FP....'��.. � ����yr ..� . --:rr+—rr—r+.-----r--t`------.....—..------- :.ram-------------------.:...-..-- 25. P19ST READING ORDINANCE: Amend Code Sections 2-75, 2-83.1, 19-5, 19- 178, 19-184, 19-260 and 19-516 - Establish/adjust fees for annual reinspection of buildings, user fees for emergency medical transportation, charges for inspection/testing of fire suppression/detection systems, permits for blasters and precision explosive demolition of structures, discharge of fireworks, storage of flammable or combustible liquids, and assembly. ------------- ------------------------- ------------------------- -------------- Mayor Suarez: Item 25. Includes the rescue fees, Mr. Manager. Mr. Odio: This is amending the code by establishing adjusting fees for annual - re... ' Mayor Suarez: Charges for existing fire suppression detection systems, blasting and precision explosive demolition of structures, permits for discharge of fireworks and so on, inflammable, combustible liquids and permits for assembly. Mr. Odio: Yes, is with the... Mayor Suarez: Ah, I didn't realize that last one, permits for assembly. Mr. Plummer: How much did you raise in the past budget on ambulance fees? _ How much did you collect? Which should have been paid by Dade County. Chief Colonel Duke: Colonel Duke, Fire Chief... I'm sorry, sir. Mr. Plummer: Which should have been paid by Dade County,` it's their obligation. Chief "Rollason: Chief Rollason with Support Services. We invoiced for just _ under`a million, nine hundred and seventy-eight thousand... Mr. Plummer: It's not my question. How much did you collect? Chief Rollason: Collected a quarter of a million, two hundred and forty eight thousand. We're running about 25 percent. Mr. Plummer: Have you tried to bill the, County for additionalamount of money? Chief Rollason: We asked for... Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, do you understand, I've fought this fight before but I'`don't think many of you were here. It is the obligation, if today the - rescue calls an ambulance to transport, Dade County pays for it. OK? if we transport,'Dade County will not pay us. It's a million dollar number. Am I 'k- correct, Mr. Manager? Chief Duke: Commissioner Plummer, can I address that? �- r Mr. Plummer:' Please. Chief Duke 'z My understanding of that is that Dade' County has "a contract`+eith_ the'ambulances services._ 1 Mr.' Plummer: That:is correct. t r Chief Duke: They only pay some thirty-eight odd dollars towards the cost of %ransportation and it's a guaranteed:tzansportation Mr: Plummer: Dut they do'pay it. They do pay it, they transport and they pal► i r x ir Chief, Auke: They pay ' 8.66., But the individual 'thak .would be t vol%h0d J � ifs the. ;easpQrtation.ia,still billed for those dollars abQvo yid b�►yPAO that for r'seviaes. 62 a p' w t t p g i `{v In Mr. plummb r: But it is not an obligation to the City. Chief Duke: Correct. Mr. Plummert If, in every run that you had of transporting, you call Metropolitan Dade County to do the transporting, our cost factors would be less. Now, look, 1,11 even settle if you can make a deal with Dade County for everyone we transport we collect $38 dollars. Chief Dukes We have asked the Law Department for a legal opinion as to whether or not we can get back from Dade County those $38 odd dollars per transport that we do. When we work on someone, we're actually stick a needle in them or we work on the body, we need to transport. Mr. Plummer: All right, I understand that. What is the Law Department doing f about getting - how many transportings did you do last year? Roughly? Round T_ numbers. y Chief Rollason: Thirteen thousand. Mr. Plummer: Thirteen thousand. OK. That's a half a million dollars. I'm talking some big numbers and I don't want to slough over this thing if the - - Manager's telling me the truth, he's short of money. Chief Duke: We are pursuing what we can do. Mr. Plummer: Now, what is the Legal Department doing to enforce the County to pick up that obligation which is rightfully theirs? - Mr. Jorge Fernandez: Specifically, I cannot tell you, I'll tell you in a - minute and when I find out from my department. Generally, let me tell you that we cannot sue the County unless we first give them ample notice and there is legislation to the effect that amongst municipalities or amongst x= government, there will not be that filing of lawsuit on this type of issues unless and until we've given them notice, they fail to correct, then you authorize me to file a lawsuit and we do. Mr. Plummer: OK, that's procedure. k Mr. Fernandez: Right. x Mr. Plummer: But what have we done, have we discussed any further there's half a million dollars to our treasury that rightfully belongs to us. -fir Chief Duke: Commissioner, We just recently got the opinion back from the Law y- Department that we could not effectively recover those dollars from Dade ; County under the situation that exists right now. If we can do some kind of an independent contract, City of Miami, with Dade County, we should be. we're... ; Mr. Plummer: Are you pursuing that? Chief Duke: Yes, sir, we're going to continue to pursue it. z f_v Mr. Plummer: When? I've brought this up 3 years ago. I brought it up two. r. years ago and every year it's costing the taxpayers of this Citya half" a. million dollars. Now when is - Mr. Manager, you know, I tell. you where IIni at, the next time they ask for something like a causeway bridge, this is going,- Fes'` to be the main item. Mr. Odio: Well, that's fine but we've been - becaune they have been saying 1 j to us for the last two yearn. Mr. .Plummer; Can we establish an independent contract, juatt like-and]e�= Eastern. just like MediCar,, they pay -them and they'rei' obligated to doing. the,tranxporting ,and they're not paying us. Chief Rollason: The situation that we have befora you today, Comaaias#oner� x X would .give ;`us the opportunity to recover some of. thoao costa associated, , r 4- Mr. Plummer: That's from the taxpayers. s�. , b All i t _- i • '` Chief Rollason: In many cases, the people that we transport are not taxpayers, they're visitors to the City. _ Mr. Dawkins: I'm so glad to hear my good friend on the corner say he's concerned about us being ripped off by the County. When you gave them the bridge, I'm the only one up here voted and told you you were getting ripped off. And... - Mr. Plummer: I gave them the bridge for 5.8 million dollars. If that's _ ripped off, I'd like to be ripped off every day. Mr. Dawkins: Well, then, quit complaining then because they're not paying you for the ambulance service because you already got five million dollars. Mr. Plummer: OK, look... Mr. Dawkins: All right? Mayor Suarez: What happened to the other hundred thousand? I thought it was 5.9 million? Mr. Plummer: Well, the Manager took that for administration, contingency and printing. Mr. Dawkins: See, you would have gotten more money had you had a - took a percentage of the tonnage and the passengers going through the port each year and then each year you'd have had more money and the 5 million dollar would - have been more money. Mr. Plummer: I agree. Mr. Dawkins: OK, no problem, see. Oh, at least we're in the same accord,_no problem. Y Mr. Plummer: But I disagree that ,you could get .it. Look, I will vote for this.today, I mean, it's what you've got to do but I'm saying that if you don't go and negotiate, as an independent contractor, which you, in effect, are, and the County doesn't approve it, I want to tell you something, you can "- start that;time, frame, running as far as I'm concerned. - Chief Duke: We. will continue -to pursue that through our Law Department. - Mr. Plummer: It's a half a,million dollars into the treasury of this City. I'll move this item as presented. Mayor Suarez: Item 25 has been moved. Mr. Dawkins: Second. Mayor Suarez: Seconded. Y, k Mr. Plummer: And Vd like a. monthly report, Mr. Manager, ,back -on, the. process,. f yqq: Mayor Suarez: Read the ordinance, please. Cali the roll.` r i . ft , '?.�'-£�r .- .. � 1aR k'S �� �.h vNF a-4T �'P ♦9 g�i� S F1 1 f{4'' ,` . .�.. . � 2iM 5y K. '.;..� .'. ., f �:.' € t „f.:S St i (ir }�� •qj�f 'x J iE.:e,�l v. _ 4.♦ ETT� fi��N ., _ fu.Ti�v%��ii:t}...� �g.t. .. i. .♦ ., ._ -. -.., . _ Xt , ,.r„ ..m ... .{ _ 1�..4u .. cm eL'9iu2d�Yv bV � y�. 9 AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED - AN ORDINANCE CONCERNING FEES FOR CITY SERVICE AMENDING SECTIONS 2-75, 2-83.1, 19-5, 19-178, 19-184, 19-260, AND 19-516 OF THE CODE OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA, AS AMENDED, ESTABLISHING AND ADJUSTING FEES FOR ANNUAL REINSPECTION OF BUILDINGS AND PREMISES; USER FEES FOR THE USE OF EMERGENCY MEDICAL TRANSPORTATION SERVICES; CHARGES FOR INSPECTION AND TESTING OF FIRE SUPPRESSION AND DETECTION SYSTEMS; PERMITS FOR BLASTERS AND PRECISION EXPLOSIVE DEMOLITION OF STRUCTURES; PERMITS FOR DISCHARGE OF FIREWORKS; PERMITS FOR STORAGE OF FLAMMABLE OR COMBUSTIBLE LIQUIDS; AND PERMITS FOR ASSEMBLY; SAID INCREASES BEING NECESSARY TO COVER INCREASES IN OPERATIONAL COST; CONTAINING A REPEALER PROVISION AND A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE. Was introduced by Commissioner Plummer and seconded by Commissioner Dawkins and was passed on its first reading by title by the following vote: AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Commissioner Rosario Kennedy Commissioner Miller Dawkins Mayor Xavier L. Suarez NOES: Vice Mayor Victor De Yurre ABSENT: None. The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commission and to the public. COMMENTS MADE DURING ROLL CALL: Mr. De Yurre: No. I vote no because, though I think user fees are a lot better than taxes, I still feel that before I can even vote for a user fee, I - want to make sure that we've exhausted all possible sources of saving money _ within the administration and here's one example where it hasn't been done so I'll have to vote no. Mayor Suarez: I'm going to vote yes but I would like, Mr. Manager, a specific _ report on the issue of the permits for assembly and I.really should ask.myy own. staff - to check that out because that concerns me a bit. But I'm not really _ prepared to argue with it at this point. Mr. Plummer: It's first reading. Mayor Suarez: I will do it before second reading. 26. FIRST READING ORDINANCE: Amend Code Sections dealing with Office of. Professional Compliance (2-236.2 and 42-62) pertaining to organizational status, powers/duties , providing for advisory committee; Section `= relating to filing/investigation of complaints. filed against police_ officers; Section relating to reporting an incomplete, biased or>" deficient investigation. }: a. --- -------- ---------- ------M..____�___--__ Mayor Suarez: Item 26., Mr. Plummer; There was a,gentleman here that wanted, to speak on,that, issue. Wayor;Suarez; Mr. Collier still around or... INAUDIBLE .COMMENTS NOT :ENTERED INTO.THE PUBLIC RECORD. a` Mayor Suarez: Here we go. Why ls, the attorney for.;_the FOP - (fraternal Qrder _ Of Police) getting up so quickly? This, obviously, doesn't concern the,FOP� do�s.itT ,+�^. "� of �� "i L-A W_ Mr, Pluftwt Mr. Mayor. Mayor Suarez: Yes, CotrDmissioner. Mr. I'iumtaegs Is this matter going to be able to be concluded in fifteen n,inutee betause`I must walk out the door at noon... Mayor Suarez: I hope so. Mr. Plummer: ... and if its not going to be, then I'd ask that it be after — lunch. Mayor guarers I hope so. Mr. Plummers OK, fine. Mayor Suarers Mr: Manager, what's the... what are we doing here? Mr. Odio: We're amending the code to create the Office of Professional _ Compliance pertaining, to organizational status, powers and duties provided for an advisory committee amending sections related to filling and investigation, filing and investigation of complaints of wrongdoing, file against offices and report of incomplete bias or otherwise deficient investigations. The director will have immediate access to the Police Chief and if the director is not —� satisfied with a solution with the problem at that level, he or she may bring the matter to the City Manager's attention. Mayor Suarez: How is that different from what we have now? So what you've read so far? Mr. 'Odio: Right now, the Office of Professional Compliance if under the. - Internal Audits and Reviews and we're... Mayor Suarez: So','We would be moving it over to... d -Mr. OdiIo To the'Police`Department. Mayor, Suarez: Why 'is Dr. Daniels back there'shaking her head no? INAUDIBLE COMMENTS NOT ENTERED INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD. Mayor Suarez: Wait, wait, somebody ought to know here the City structure. yx Odio:Officially, it was transferred to Internal`Audits and Review'but'it .has been 'operating unofficially for a while now away from that. This is... AS. MayorSuarez:`` Well, Internal Audits and Reviews also is` not - :'a separate _ department; is At? It's under another one. Mr. ` Odio:' No,' no, it's a separate department but the Office 'of Profess3iorial Compliance: .. Mayor Suarezi' Has been functionin ' g under... lr. Odio.'.Was transferred to'that office and has been working in the building now for the last how long?` Since'October, but this is making that official$. i#- Mayor lSuarers Well; where was` it before, functioning under whers?ffr Nr Odios Internal Audits and Review. `F !!r Plummert No, before it was -operating under Ingraham. � t { Mr. Odisss �efaxe that, it was under it was in Joe Ingraham In the;Poii+ce � Department, - (i � lire: ICet�nedy i i If there's a c4iiaplaint, r 7 s 4 Y � •A t! .'/ .� ri "fib YA't uromexri is putt'in it baok under tn`e Police` �� - r j a dsx ; > t t i Y+ J •t; rs4 ;!.iL'' adz+ lar far Qs �: rx A������' �f -� # ; R' 5 i.•ia"" r>3 a'C- � ksi?"i'y-W3'�{`'ma c.,r �.,myy E - d- Win.. .. .. .. ,.,,. ...- ..,n..: REi: ,.. .!". _ .._ ., A.., .. .,_. : ., _ -. •... -.( +,r,l...r .,.# �..� _ Mrs. Kennedy: If there's a complaint about a police officer, then OPC will conduct an investigation along with the Police Department. Is this correct? Mr. Odio: Well, it's quite complex. The law doesn't allow it for the Office of Professional Compliance to sit in when internal security people are investigating in any of the interrogations or the file. They have access to it after the investigation has been concluded as I understand it. Mrs. Kennedy: Sit in, But not conduct. _ UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: No, the way... '.L Mayor Suarez: Please give me an answer to two very simple questions. Up to now, has the Office of Professional Compliance been under whom and as of now, if,we pass this, it'll be under whom? Mr. Odio:. Officially, it's under Internal Audits and Review, unofficially has been working independently for the last since October. It will now.under the - Police Department. Mayor Suarez: It will now be moved over to the Police Department? Mr. Odio: Police Department. Mr. Plummer: Where it was before. Mr. Odio: Where it was before. Mr. Plummer: When it originally established.. Mayor Suarez: Why would we want to do that? Mr. Odio; That was a request - first it came out of the budget workshops, when --I was requested to-do that. It came out of community involvement that people wanted it to have it there very visible. They felt that under Internal Audits.and Review, it was not visible.- Mayor Suarez: Well, that would go exactly counter to the concept of an independent review panel, I hope you realize that, Georgia. Ms. Shirley.Ervin:,.What this ordinance would do..., — Mayor: Suarez: No, wait, wait, wait, wait, I want to hear from Georgia, please. Because you're nodding your head that apparently you liked this idea and :.that goes exactly counter to the... s Ms. Georgia Ayers: There are two - all the Commissioners, Commissioner Plummer was the only Commissioner present when the Office of Professional Compliance was put together. There were five of us that putit: together, Howard Gary; police officers that represented the City of Miami Police Department, Richard Witt, who is now in Hollywood; Bob Warshaw, who represented ;the Police Chief; Dr. 8duardo Padron-and myself- put this program together. We,put a year's study of other Police Departments. whoweretryng Y to get the independent review panel. We. thought'. this-was.the,best procedure r we could use.with.the input of the union who was representedby;,Richard WittT_- Now, to make any deviation from this to me, would be counter -productive to ,Ly what we, ,put . years :,.of service into and I'rp going. back - if. ;:,.Your ,honor: ,vguld allow me,to say,:this, back In,1967,,when we went to the Police Department ,to ask for an independent review panel so that citizens could make ;.a complaint" about-; what:; .was going,.,when; we were told that you had the IA; which , is the Police that.., Mr.. Dawkins; Internal, internal... {YG Ms. Ayers: ... internal review. So we thought this vie,the..best that could, , .aAm r ..up, Kith rocogn z ;r�8; what. .rid#ta ;the:, .,policn o . Icon. recogdizing ; th�►t ttiq...;,amQn„dose', shave-..the.r..iBht..and. tkat • .i�he .pcioa ,4€f ic4'r, dQea:_:hai+e,'::tt�s ght;:.not.:: o; asy.:;.w t]i his attorney present,.4nytkting up . with hi�n, sc we felt : that this being a part Qf the' ,Paiice Depsxtinent, �r s ? �`�;' ie+�st �th�ey,:wou 1 .be,:�tber 3 asp :.that ::they icap► µ40or-s.ta�ad �nfartoa�t o baf4 a aayaAe eiae: what's n th. the poll+ of .iGep, } t �! 1 � E r Mayor Suarez: Ah, so it's kind of like -- this is the lesser of all the possible evils given that what you'd like to have is even more independence; but you don't think you can get it because of certain... Ms. Ayers: We over a year of listening to Richard Witt, who represented the... Mayor Suarez: police bill of rights, the union opposition and everything else. Me. Ayers: That's right. That's right. Mayor Suarez: And you still - and so, working within the department, it might make more sense because it brings in an outside element into the department, into these kinds of considerations, is that the idea, I guess? Ms. Ayers:. That's right. Mayor Suarez: Ah, I get you. We ought to be pleased. I mean, we're heading towards an independent review board. I don't think you'd want that from what I know of police unions. Robert Klausner, Esq.: You asking me for my opinion? Robert Klausner and Joe — Ramirez representing Fraternal Order of Police. Mr. Mayor, the concept of the Office of Professional Compliance is not a problem with the union. The fact that we haven't been included in the discussions of the changes is a problem. There are items in here which impact on terms and conditions of employment. It impacts, not only on the FOP but it also impacts on your general employee bargaining unit as well because you're talking about creating new civilian positions which didn't exist before which, of course, will have a financial impact on the City. — Mayor -Suarez: Since when do we have to consult the union everytime we create a new civilian position and it... -- Mr. Klausner: Because you're going to be creating it because you're altering 4 the selection method from that which.currently exists. Mayor Suarez: Selection of what? - { Mr. Klausner: Selection of the people who are going;to.fill the positions. Mr. Odio: You're already filling some... — - Mayor .Suarez: All right, OK... Mr. Klausner: But beyond that, beyond that the... i Mayor.. Suarez: I still don't see why that's a matter for, collective bargaining, you know... Y Mr. Klausner: Well, it's our position that it is but the FOP is particularly, concerned because it allows the Office of Professional Compliance to establish rules but it doesn't say what limitations there are with regard to their, ability,to.establish rules. It says; they can monitor proceedings. ,f"f Mayor Suarez: Who, approves the rules : set ..up by the ;Office. �.pf i'rofesaionsl sssssi Compliance? The Manager of the Commission, or both?X. Mr. Klausner: `--It doesn't say.. , Mayor.`.Suarez: Do we<know? Mr. City Attorney or somebody?' at — Mr. Plum ar: Are,the ulev established? _ r Mr. Fernandez: night now, it does not specif_�a icallyt•ate :,.but itheyr're`,�Q�►i��, upu4iL#,it s am rogulat.ions �vi)ich you could make .it subject' to yguz "a►Pp�`4�'+il pax . y xEri a Or oatt to the_Manager 'a approval tit, Plummer: Is that not fair of ask this Commix61on' .To,v6t0 f,p khats not"fully explained to it? That aaems unfair, .5,��4 A42 - 0. _ Mayor Suarekt At least I'd want a mechanism to know who has to approve him Coto. . Mr. Plummer: ...that the rules and regulations would be established when we establish the... Mayor Suarez: Well, Commissioner Plummer, unless we delegated that to the Manager but at least it ought to be clarified who has to approve them. I can't Imagine that they would set them up without some form of approval, either by the Manager or by us. Mr. Plummer: That's not the point I'm making, Mr. Manager... Mrs. Kennedy: Otherwise it's giving them a blank check. Mr. Plummer: ... Mr. Mayor, the point I'm making is, is to establish rules _ and regulations at a later date, it would seem like to me that when they bring _ the package as they have here this morning that the rules and regulations would be part and parcel of the package. — Mayor Suarez: Well, unless you're willing to delegate that to the Manager to approve. Mr. Plummer: I don't think that that's appropriate. Mr. Klausner: Mr. Mayor, what we're saying is I don't think this is ready to be voted on by the Commission. I think it's a matter which the FOP should be included in the discussions. Ms. Ayers: Excuse me, Your Honor, I have... — r Mayor Suarez: Yes, let him finish what he's saying. We're going to hear from everybody. Mr. Klausner: We've always said that when things need to be done and thingsF. need to be' changed,t ' let us participate, leus be a partner in the `'process and we're happy to try to accommodate everybody's needs. Mayor Suarez: Just out of curiosity, did you not try to do that before — today's meeting because we world have been very happy, as we always ar`e, when the'Oolice'union calls'to'discuss any matter°that's coming. Mr. Klausner: We tried, but the process was already underway, before...— Mr. Dawkins: You tried with whom? Mr. Klausner: With whom? Mr. Dawkins: Yes, with whom? Mayor Suarez: Did you go through the... Mr. Klausnek A member... r: Mr. Dawkins: Who did you try with` up here? Mx. Klausner: A member of my office was involved in a meeting with a msmber of the City,' yt z r `i• k Mr. Dawkins: Who did you 'contact up here?` Mr. Klausner: Up there? �r Mr Dawkiiisi'' Yee, .oiaie; two, :three,`=four •five° t Mr. I�¢isaner: l+ra�'told =that 'when''you're represented -by a'" atw►e'r.s tle ythrou i� `the =� City' Att'p° rtay's"'�'and .=that `2$ `'what I'. '`dld. 1ow';� il'' you.. re s} ,— ,' xielling' me' it's all right to ,communicate directly .;with ;you, I' do' th8 , R. r — 5 i ; A gg fsr71� I �rl'- i• A i Y - _ 4 = Mr. Dawkins: You always do when you don't get what you want from the City Attorney. Why is this something different? Mr. Klausnert Well, Comm — Mr. Dawkins3 Why is this different? Mr. tlausner: Commissioner, like i said. Mr. Dawkins: Oh, no, no, no, no. Now, let's talk about apples and apples. When you have a problem with the Manager on the salary and everything, you people come directly to us. Mr. Klausner: I don't come to you. Mr. Dawkins: You send somebody. Mr. Klausner: I don't send anybody. I work for the union. You know, the union may send people. They're allowed to deal directly with you. I s• personally am not. Mr. Dawkins: I'm sorry, OK, you're right, you're right, go ahead, Mr. Mayor, I'm sorry, go on. Mr. Odio:' Robert, in all fairness, we did meet with the union and we just didn't agree on what we're doing, you didn't want this at all and we felt we would... _ Mayor Suarez: There is a difference between not agreeing and saying you didn't have time to discuss it. <'4. Mr. Odio: We didn't agree but we did discuss. '; k Mayor Suarez:• Now, maybe, did you - you did have time to discuss it and we just don't agree and..:, Mr. Klausner: The point is, Mr. Mayor, it's a subject which requires collectivebargaining. We are now at the'table for collective bargaining. :We exchanged... Yr; a ' Mayor :Suarez; ;Let me ask the. City ;Attorney, if I may,. does he pee with -. g that? Does this implementation of'this" require us to go through' collective—; bargaining? = Mi. Fernandez: Mr. Mayor, I would like to defer to your labor counsel, Ms. fY.- Linda.Ehrlich, from my office, who.has been very much involved in this case. and she can speak to that. Miss Ehrlich. Mr. Plummer:: I've got to -walk out in three minutes. Mrs.,.Kennedy: I, know....... Linda Ehrlich, Esq.- I'm not really sure what it is Bob is talking about xt- wanting to bargain. What is it exactly, Bob, you wanted to'bargain? u_ a Mr.`Klausner: I'll be specific, if you want, Mr. Mayor. Y `� Mayor Suarez: Yes.- t, r� Mr., 'Plummer: Mr. Mayor,'iay'I suggest that this is a very important issue wad t; it be delayed until ,the afternoon? I have got ,to walk out stha .dooz m nute`s. Mayor ,ogre �:., tless the-Commi�saioner feels oz the reasons at aV., lA � peen. ie:}tiptted ghat you wpuldn want -to act on'thls today Mr. Plger: EMI you're. calling` a• vote on first reading, with:all ih+a i�t'Y A`.•, tie put ♦in ,before hat, d second, .;t' f ine. "but i£ ::.not, I would ix be de ey d i '���8 afte��+F•�!•t• � r: V{ ;> `s { � { � � Pi, n ���- � , ,.} yt r t'A- L ; k • Y t. i i i'.u< 7 11aye,�tr; it►e, G mt�esion otl eizwisg elt th:.t �j2' ¢r e, etrrKk Mr�arL�.e.;.tet��.,;4�? �. yr!{...r }! M• YY�r rf.. �Y x'VR .ri7��•T^:.C• .. .-7•w.gre,r vr.; i!" $' r,. p ''R YJT a ,.r `•aF ��'}3 �`"�`-�. rr �..�154t �'��-i Sr�,'*�� �'✓3 '-,3+.s '� :: 'jiia ,`: a. ,. m:x, x?iIF -��,Cc t�,., A 7Q � n D 1 Mr. P1uter: Well, i can state for the record that there is not sufficient for me to vote on final. There is sufficient for me to vote on first reading. Mr. Odio: Let's do it on first reading. Mr. Plummer: But i want a hell of a lot of information, including the rules and regulations that they will operate by prior to the second reading. Mayor Suarez: Well, if that's the direction we're going to go in and if there's more debate needed and clarification, we're going to have to continue the item if we're going to lose our quorum here at 12:00 o'clock and come back at 2:00 p.m. Mr. Plummer: I'm sorry, but... Do you have any problem with passing it on first reading? Mr. Klausner: As long as we get an opportunity to participate in the process before second reading, no. Mrs. Kennedy: Absolutely. Mr. Plummer: I'll move it on first reading, you always have the right to participate. They might... Annie, you can't deny anybody the right to involvement. I wouldn't deny you that right... Ms. Anne Marie Adker: Unless... Mr. Plummer: ... I don't mean we're going to agree with them. Mayor Suarez: What she's saying is, that she wants to be heard on as to first reading Ms. Adker: I would like to be heard since this affects me. I'm not immune from police brutality, you know. Mr. Plummer: But you can bring that up at the second reading. Mayor Suarez: You have an opportunity... Ms. Adke.r: I have a problem with this ordinance as it's written now as from the -initial. - ® Mayor Suarez: Which is what,Anne Marie? Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I ask that this matter be deferred till the afternoon. M$: Adker: What? Pardon? Mr. Plummer: I've got to go: Mayor Suarez: It sounds like we'll have to have more debate"on it. I'm going to want to clarify again the board composition. There's a`'boa rd included'in here, isn't there? r Mir. 'Fernandez:' Yes. there is. . Mrs. Kennedy- An advisory board, yes:' x' Ms Bhrlich:` An advisory committee:' s �" mayor` Suarez And I think``yoti're going to want to ' make , to ement '`Mr: Collier,' is that correct?' Did you', want to make,Jt now: -before lunch.,i,f it's quick? s "; T f �1 Hs Adkers Yes. _ z r� lero�►'_Co111 rt Sure. A brief statement: We 'received' somee.inzQxmatiQn _ esterda�,, a co variation bath co ies �i tote prapoae¢ :ordipan�e 5 y .. ,� �- r «:.. Y :y r R;., t rt+k.sk �rdinanae: Ke have 'heard tbsiimoAy from the fe¢ent t1 raUtQ� Qi'C Ans 'lsa fxois tl s head of .'x$ We as�C'tiii�t a�nua tb�s rdQa�' �a�i"'�z� e�� bhsrx r th ► you gave they, 440peadent review tioard,,... �, a Mr. Collier: Yes. Ms. Adker: Yes. Mr. Collier: Would you refer it to us? Mayor Suarez: The whole issues for recommendation from the independent review panel. from the existing ad hoc independent review panel set up for Overtown. Ms. Ayers: Mayor, you and I were here today that you pulled this board together during the disturbances and I said right then, we're going to butt heads somewhere along the line. I was waiting for this collision. Me. Adker: There's no collision. Ms. Ayers: From what I hear. They're from the rumor that you're putting in the street, Anne Marie. Mayor Suarez: Well, maybe, you ought to wait till the afternoon, then, and listen to the discussion because it sounds like we're going to have to have a full fledged debate on this. Whether it makes sense to delay and derail it towards the ad hoc committee or not and Anne Marie has some concerns about it. I'm going to ask about the board. It sounds like we will be adjourned until 2:00 p.m. to continue this. Bob. Mr. Klausner:- I was just going to ask you, Mr. Mayor, perhaps it might pay to _ defer the item to the Commission's next meeting and the parties should take the- opportunity to get together and see if these different con... can be resolved. Mayor Suarez: Well, if we were going to do that, that might solve their problem because they can take.it up very quickly with the ad hoc committee but I think we'd better discuss even that in the afternoon. I'm sorry. Mr. Klausner: OK,� V ll be back. Mayor Suarez: Because we couldn't get a consensus here before lunch. We're adjourned until '2:00. — THEREUPON- THE CITY .COMMISSION WENT INTO RECESS AT 12:01:-P.M. AND RECONVENED AT 2.08 P.M.,. WITH: ALL MEMBERS OF THE CITY COMMISSION FOUND TO BE: PRESENT EXCEPT COMMISSIONERS PLUMMER AND DAWKINS. Mayor.Suarez: Would the Commission please come to order. I know we have, Dr. McCabe from Miami -Dade Community College who's still ailing.. and from a. hip ! operation.: We'll try to get to that very :quickly. We -were.. in the, midst,. of consideration of modifications to our Office of Professional Compliance. I have to say that I got a couple of very quick briefings during the recess myself, including one from Lieutenant Longueira on some of the - and f rom r= Shirley, ..some -,_of :the implications of the change in reasons therefor and though, while I still haven't seen the actual statutes that everybody keeps referring to as almost. requiring this sort of .amalgamation, so that Zve can ' parry:: out; a -task ,of, the Office of Professional, Compliance.while ,the matter; .3sr still -::,under: investigation ; by the Police :Department, I. would°,:like to:„look,, - that statute.:at :some point, maybe,:,the : City,::. Attorney.. can explain to >us' ate } - impliostions� The�t's shore we are so I guess we complete the,;City's£�= presentation, anyone also that wants to address it and that we'll hQ$r from theunion. apd than S+ciecide :what we want to do:: r . We; &need to;hear.....loe�r Commiesion¢r, wept to: ask, any. f�uirther, questions?-,If.:not;,,,.I'1i.:.. _ YV��§� r -r Mr. Odio: Well, I hear from .Commissioner Plummer. that he -wants to pep the scales-: and., athat I suggest: is we pass this on first; reading and than bring r' /b�ac/k� Qiln (the oeoond reading with the rules and regulation$ and than ',you can "�_ 40i'V "1f. uily.1, t ,Kdy, .That!s Wh$t i uthink+ ,I :think we should ;cove ahead;;aud ;thelt We v - havo I timlot of concerns later, but .right now; beltter to' Dave 'it than not to.:,:" - 72 = Mayor Suarer: Let me get it... Bob, before you say something on the record from the Manager. Are you saying, Mr. Manager, is it correct to state that as a policy matter or as a matter of your recommendation, you believe that this is as far as we can go in the monitoring effort to not leave everything up to internal review in the City? You don't believe that we can go to a - and you don't recommend that we try to go to a true independent review board? Mr. Odios At this time, and following legal advice, I guess, this is as far as I think we can go and until we have something better worked out by the Law Department that we can do in other words, to have a more extensive program, I'd like, independent or whatever it could be, this is better than nothing at all. And I suggest that, yes, this would be the best we can do at this time. But then let us finalize the rules and regulations which we already have in draft and then present it to you and have a full discussion on the second. As far as talking to the FOP, we have talked to them and I don't believe we're — going to ever reach an understanding on this because they have a firm belief in what they're saying and I respect that. I don't mind meeting with them again and going over the whole concept of Office of Professional Compliance prior to bringing it back as a second reading. I don't mind doing that, we - - can do that one more time. Mayor Suarez: And then, we'll hear from both of you. Go ahead, Mr. — Klausner... Mr. Klausner: Mr. Mayor, Robert Klausner, for the FOP. I have no objection to the Commission passing it on first reading as the Manager's kindly offered to include us in the discussions and to take our input. You know, we do have some differences of opinion but I think we need to move the matter along so that we can get to the issues at hand if the Commission wants to pass it on first reading now, the FOP says, fine, but understand that we do still have some reservations about it and we'll be meeting with your staff and the Manager's people and the Law Department to see if we can come to some closure on those issues. Mayor Suarez: Absolutely. Mr. Halley. Mr. Collier: Leroy Collier, 425 N.W. 6th Street. As a representative of the IRP (Independent Review Panel), we have no objections to it, but we would like it to be referred to us to include in our findings. Mr. Odio: I think that... — Mayor Suarez: Well, why would you oppose, if we went on first reading, their having, as I'm sure they have an absolute right to do, copies of what we're proposing to pass and then take comments from them before second reading? Mr. Odio: Oh, no, they're entitled to their opinions and they're entitled to receive..., _ Mayor Suarez: And they're entitled to give their opinions, not only to have = them but to give them. Mr. Odio: ... everything that we have written is public record but I think that we have sufficient people... Mayor Suarez:: I'.m,very, interested in your. input so if we pass it on first, by reading before second reading, I would very much like to have the independent review.board's — independent review panel, the ad hoc independent.review panels' for the Overtown incidents opinions on this and I'm sure the rest of..the Commission would like it.too. d Mrs.,. Kennedy:- Mr. Mayor, before,"we go and,ad and vote,:,let me °just ask' question, Mr. Manager. If there is a --complaint, could you walk,us through the a� process. - 15 Mr. Odio: Excuse me, T..: Mayor :-Suarez: )less, ,well how does the, process ..work .with the ,* ; nov? Mr:s 4Ai ae .• .K dy c � Very .,s im..:: how would ` it. x - f nE — Mr, Odio: If i get a letter say from a citizen saying that he was 'abused; 2 send it to the Office of Professional Compliance and they will immediately start reviewing the case. They will contact the proper authorities within the Police Department and start the process. If I'm wrong, correct.... Mrs. Kennedy: And the investigation with the... will go alongside that of the Police Department's. Mr. Odiot That's right. Mayor Suarez: And the board is composed of... tell me about the board. Ms. Shirley Ervin: Talking about the composition of the OPC advisory committee? Mayor Suarez: Tell me how many members, who appoints and what is the composition? Ms. Ervin: It's a nine member committee, five of whom will be appointed by the Mayor and members of the Commission, one would be an FOP representative, f the Chief of Police and two appointees lodge number 20; one representative o of the City Manager, one being an ACM. Mayor Suarez: One being a.....? Ms. Ervint An Assistant City Manager. t Mayor Suarez: Commissioners, do we have a motion? Mrs. Kennedy: -OK, I'm ready to move it on first reading. NOTE FOR THE RECORD: Commissioner Dawkins entered the meeting at }� 2:13 p.m. and Commissioner Plummer entered the meeting at 2:15 — P.M. " t: Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded. Any discussion? 5. Mr. Dawkins: Under discussion. ® Mayor Suarez: Commissioner Dawkins. Mr. Dawkins: You know, I constantly keep telling you that we have a problem in that the police do not understand the problem that.the citizens•have with, them and the citizens do not understand the problem which the police have with them and now we're getting ready to have a board and it does not have a- representative of the Police Department on it. t INAUDIBLE COMMENTS NOT ENTERED INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD. Mr. Dawkins: I beg your pardon? ` INAUDIBLE COMMENTS: NOT ENTERED INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD. - Mr. Dawkins: Who?00- Mayor Suarez: One appointed by the Chief. Mr. Odio: Whoever the Police .Chief appoints to the board, tz Mr, Dawkinst Beg your pardon?. Mr. Odio: The Police Chief will appoint a policeman to tha oard,,t, r b Mr. Dawkins: But, they said - they did not slay , itw had to ba, a .rack r�� persoa;and'-dld notsay=it'. had to be somebody from ,the admit�i$tratioA, �thQm ay it going to be? Chief appoints somebody r w t a3` C h ✓5if43ti 7411- 9 � +t,� T' J' '- . Mayor Suarez: if it's the implication that it be a sworn police officer, why doesh,t it say a sworn police officer? Spell it out because otherwise youOre going to lose one vote it sounds like. Ms: Irvin: That's not a problem. Mayon Suarezt Thank you. Mr. Dawkins: Thank you. No further questions. Mr. Plummer: Let me ask this question. Are we talking about that the person ,who is the director would be a policeman? Mr. Odio: No. Mr. Fernandez: No, no, no. — Mr. Odio: It's a civilian. A board, advisory board, will be appointed of nine members and one of them will be a sworn officer appointed by the Police Chief. Mr. Plummer: And who will the other eight members be appointed by? Mr. Odio: You will appoint some of the members, I appoint another one and an Assistant City Manager. Mayor Suarez: Five by the Commission, two by the Manager, one by the Chief, . and one by the union, is it? = Ms. Ervin: That's correct.- Mr. Plummer: OK, now have we established the rules and regulations of which they're governed by?' Y' v Mrs. Kennedy: No. — tt Mr. Plummer: When is that going to be done? s= Mr. Dawkins: At the second reading. Mrs. Kennedy: Second reading. IN Mr. Plummer: Whatris the approximate cost that this- is going to cost -the t taxpayers?, Ma. Ervin: Two hundred and thirty-one thousand dollars. Mayor Suarez:, What is your current budget forthe personnel that.you-now have J j'= in_OPC? Ms: Ervin:Two-thirty-one— Mr. Plummer:- And your background? } Ms.,Ervin I worked with.the Office of Professional.Compliance,for the: ast 8TZ years:,- When the office first came into existence, I worked, there. I.have;;a �Kk� Bachelors Degree from Florida State University in, Criminology, I'ta working on'- my-,Matters`:'De"gree. in)'Public` Management ' from`. St.' Thomas, ,l as x Mr,_Ilummer:�I How muche are you paid?, i ¢ Ms. Irvint: Forty eight thousand.'.. Mr. Piutnmers Plus perks.' Mr. Plummex: 'So.'' that's roughly seventy 'two thousand g a w t J r$: ¢ ;t i. d {s i s{ ymJ PSI rya r 4r ;,� q +d ;� ,rd Y { {. 7 c5 V 1. S Yy 4- ��� vi us} Ms. Rrvifi ©h, everything inclusive, yes. Mr. Plumenbri forty-eight thousand plus 50 percent perks in another twenty four thousand. Ms. Ervin: That's correct. Mr. Plummer: So that's 48, $72,000. How many other people will be working in = that office? Ms. Erwin: It's a total of four including myself. Two investigators, secretary, director. Mr. Plummere All right, and We'll have the rules and regulations that you will be governed by prior to the second reading. Ms. Ervin: They're already in draft form. Mr. Plummer: Well, I haven't seen them. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Mr. Dawkins: Mr. Manager. Mr. Odio: Yes, air. - Mr. `Dawkins: Is forty-eight thousand dollars plus perk out of line with your directors pay or is it out of line? Mr. Odio: Well, she's a junior and she would... h Mr. Dawkins: No, no,no, see, you know, see, just yes or no. You see, don't qualify. Mr. Odio: No, it's not out of line. Mr. Dawkins: Is,it or is it not out of line? fy' Mr. Odio- "It's not out` of line'. Mr. 'Dawkins: Thank you. That's all. Mayor`Suarez: Anything further from"the Commission? I think I'm `about'to ask.{ _Marty Fine a 'favor for me -,to do 'for me. I am disposed to vote for, this on �' first reading because of the representation that our City Manager and City.' Attorney have made that this is the best we can do 'under existing` lawn That we cannot 'leg .ally compose in independent: review board `that' would have full ' r xx powers 'of `investigation on any matter that has already been - that is already under investigation by the Police Department, such as - what do they call, no, iw no; what,°do'they call their unit that investigates internal matters? Mrs. -Kennedy: .Internal Security. Mr. Fernandez: Internal Security. Mayor Suarez: Internal Review. 'Internal Security,they 'keep changing the name on us r INAUDIBLE COMMENTS NOT ENTERED INTO THE MLIC RECORD. _ Mayor SuaraziInternal Affairs, Internal Security, Internal Investigationm, wh<atever.'''And'I wonder`ii we're ;dust being creative enough there,"Qr If' -we" , being, told. that this is just as fares we can go, and I�wonder if. mayb+a Maxt r1 3„ _ some6ne1'in the°'office ;could check that out for me' and give' me some 40 ee George back, there, Harold: or any of the otheir attozneys I Lhik that tad go fsz�thi��r"`and x'ta`aot, as ii:gcthit� as a matter 6E=pol"`icy`thatou e�rhr a f, fdrttier.'tha that... I don't. know that this :Commisstcis could aver « `that f, ` s r ; - could' ever get three votes for an. indepondent :review pans;, but.... Markin Fiaa;f Esq.:" Mr,' klayar,' we,,re flattered' t1 at you Vou" d ?nur aura eQxge� Knox an0 .others, taut• one; of the bo4t . pOPP 0 ' d wit s Richar4. We#sa, , hq'a:4 fv Or xty*� en�a. with Aunty. and has .'a "lot of experience and uk as done 15bms V9xk s _- .P_,. UAd City and sure there are others that if there's any input we could be, we'd be glad to do it. Mayor Suarez: 1 will direct that to - counselor, do you want to...? Harold Long, Esq.: Yes, Mr. Mayor, the Independent Review Panel... Mayor Suarez: You're going to be looking at that very question? Mr. Long: ... is going to be looking at the very question. As a matter of... Mayor Suarez: OK, would you then get back to me. I still may go to some other attorneys to try to get as many minds on this as possible because I'm concerned that we're just not being as creative as we can be. Still would be a tough policy question, I don't know that we have three votes on this Commission in favor of a true independent review board as other city's have it and I don't know that we are so constrained by our state laws, as opposed to other states, that we basically cannot do it so I appreciate that. = Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I think another thing that has to be under consideration. You know, how many layers of government are we going to _ eventually provide? OK? We now have, just using the - and I'm not opposed to this, George, before you get your shackles all up - I'm voting for it. We now — _ have internal review, internal security. We now have OPC which we're establishing, we now have a departmental review board. We now have a civil service system. Now, you know, we read in the paper and we wonder why there's criticism when a policeman is put out for whatever reason, legitimately so, on suspension with pay, and 8 months later a decision hasn't been reached. Now, you know, I'm just saying, how many layers of boards are we going to have to go through to try and run a City? And I think that better be in somebody's consideration because right now, I'm voting for the OPC. But right now, we've got four layers of boards to a single issue. Mayor Suarez: Lot me just answer by saying that the average citizen out there who feels he has been aggrieved or she's been aggrieved, under all of those systems that you've described, and existing boards and mechanisms, typically feels discouraged as to being able to go anywhere to file a complaint that he or.she will be heard objectively and impartially and that's what we're trying to... why that is, in view of the fact that we have all these boards and disciplinary procedures and an -Office of Professional Compliance, I don't know. I guess, what I keep hearing from people is they go to. the Police Department to try to file a complaint and they're greatly discouraged from doing so and I don't know that we're solving that with this, but... Nr9 Mr. Plummer: My final ask of clarification. Am I to understand that the OPC will not ,get involved in a.particular complaint until after it is completed in internal Security? Mr. Fernandez: No, that's incorrect. Mr. Plummer: All right. Then, my fear is interference. Mr. Odio: We cannot... Mr. Plummer: How can I feel comfortable that in no way will OPC interfere with Internal Security in which it could be said that there.was'interference'` t — and that's why they lost the case? Ms. Ayers: Your -Honor, Mr. Plummer. 4f-- 4 lr= Mr.. Plummer:, -Yes, ma'am. .Ms. Ayers: You appointed—, � } Mr, Plummer: That ain't _what ou- calle4 'me .on the street, but "tha�'Ys all Y7 t right. - .�: sr Ms. Ayers: Well that too. You are the only Commissioner, that's sitting .t { there.when the Office of Professional Compliance was put together.T*- Mr. Plummer: Correct.' n ��h Me. Ayers: you appointed a person to appear on that board to represent you so just for the records, the Office of Professional Compliance is not new. Now, she can answer your other question. Mr. Plummer: OK. Ma. Ervin: The OPC would not interfere with the ongoing investigation as it is conducteJ by internal Security. What we will do, is simply sit alongside, monitor and observe the process as it is ongoing. We would not address the specifics of what has taken place in that investigation with the IS investigator. So there is no input with the IS investigator, no interference. Mr.Plummer: That's fine. Mayor Suarez= When you say that you would sit in and observe, that includes the board? Ms. Ervin: No, no, no. Absolutely not, only the staff of OPC. Mayer Suarez: The City staff, reviewing City staff going through a complaint. OK. Mr. Klausner: We're only going to say, if you're collecting legal opinions, we'll be happy to offer you ours as well. Mayor Suarez: Yours I don't have to ask for. I know you're going to try to give it to me. Mr. Klausner: I always do. Mr. Plummer: What did you just say? Mr. Klausner: I said, as long as you're collecting legal opinions, we'll be happy to provide ours as well. 4' 1- Mr. Plummer:. Free? -: Mayor Suarez: Unasked for. Mr.'. Klausne r: To you it'll be free. Mayor Suarez: We have a motion and a second, do we not,'Madam City Clerk? r _ _ z Mr: Fernandez: Yes. Mayor Suarez: No further discussion? Then call the roll. AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTIONS OF -THE CODE OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA, AS AMENDED, DEALING WITH THE OFFICE t OF PROFESSIONAL COMPLIANCE; MORE PARTICULARLY AMENDING CODE SECTIONS 2-236.-2 AND 42-62.AS THE SAME PERTAIN TO a' ORGANIZATIONAL STATUS, POWERS, AND' DUTIES', OF SAID - OFFICE AND` PROVIDING FOR AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE; FURTHER AMENDING CODE SECTION 42-63 RELATED ,TO THE FILING AND INVESTIGATION OF COMPLAINTS OF WRONGDOING a'- FILED AGAINST POLICE OFFICERS; FURTHER AMENDING, hats SECTION 42-66 RELATING TO'; THE 'REPORTING OF, AN' INCOMPLETE, BIASED OR DEFICIENT INVESTIGATION' CONTAINING:• A=' REPEALER ;-PROVISION AND SEVERABILITY` CLAUSE. 4 tr Was introduced by Commissioner Kennedy and seconded, by Commiatstonsi Yurre: and wile passed on its fist° reading by title, by .`tho follosviing .votes z u - 2 f f S f ••��,,,,.. S „ T • T -i ' .Yf SY - d t - �� .y1 , AFFS: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Commissioner Ageario Kennedy Commissioner !filler Dawkins Vice Mayor Victor De Turre Mayor Xavier L. Suarez NOES: None. ASSENT: None. The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and announced that copieb were available to the members of the City Commission and to the public. NOTE FOR THE RECORD: Mayor Suarez recognized the presence of Dade County School Superintendent. Dr. Joe Fernandez, who was present in the chambers. _ 27. MIAMI-DADE COM MITY COLLEGE Discussion on possible purchase of City- _ owned property (Municipal Shops Tract) N.W. 20th Street located at N.W. loth Avenue. Mayor Suarez: Why don't we go real quickly through the Miami -Dade Community. College in deference to Dr. McCabe and... Dr. McCabe: Ladies and gentlemen, thank you very much. I'll try to make this presentation brief. I'm here today with the vice chairman of our board, Martin Fine; vice,, president for the Medical Center Campus, Tessit Hagley; and with our vice president for administration, Dwayne Hanson and Al Cardenas from our board as well. The situation is this, the Miami -Dade... Community,': College - Medical Center ,campus is located on 4 acres at.the- corner of 20th,Street, and. ; loth Avenue. The campus supplies more than half of :the -allied,,, and nursing personnel in this community and like me, recently in the hospital, you = find out how many more of those people we need. We're in the process of starting a_new- building which -will leave us with one hundred parking places for the campus. The campus is also interested in several other changes. We want ,to, expand the services, the development of:.allied, health ,and .nursing personnel; but, we- also want to change the scope ,of_ the campuses work, and :,begi.n_ to,, -serve the "I'Vis .own community off of;. that campus with , new programs. ' ..In addition,.we want, in the future, to develop a;parking garage,and a conference °- center to serve that whole medical center complex. In order to achieve that, we desperately need additional land; and we have; been discussing the potential purchase of.... r Mayon;, Suarez: We're not, by the way, Doctor, if .I may : interrupt you, we'e 4 not in a position to try, to reach any kind. of a final settlement on ,this today. Are we, Mr. Manager? Mr.:Odio Yes,.we are. We can. !layor._Suarez: , Ohr-yell, :if ,_the Commission is satisfied... Mr. Odio; :. If you're satisfied with, .. Mayor Suarez: If they've been briefed or have not, if.you want to f ;,with.,.` g Mr... O _kq: If ypu!.re.,; satisf. led .' Mayor Suarez the omission is . satisfied, if they've bpem bri.efe�l ; 0. �f,� not, if your -want to, { Kt _ fir•. Pl aer . . L9 s f_baa�c what he `.�r . Bctt,_ tQ r €fad` b oau Win' ii qt > niutrston :*got at�4. t: x _nor tie • ,gotur�Qt dot ergnr kith: tr�s go: fran:.thero Dr. McCabe: That I have got four million...7 Mayor Suarez: You know, president Foote told me that a little while ago that he doesn't like the way you negotiate on behalf of the City. Mr. Plummer: Well, that's I think Tad and I came to a very successful conclusion which you'll hear in a minute. bit. Hethe City's Mayor Suarez; I'm misstating hehat le a negotiating abilities through of its tCommiasioners,rected inethis particular case, but... Mr. Plummert You got four million dollars, let's go from there. Dr. McCabet I have got four million dollars? Mr. Plummer: That's what we were told by a member of your board. Dr:_McCabe: I think that reverse, I think that is what Mr. Odio says we have but, in any case... Mr. Plummer: No, sir, it was a member of your board. I'm not going to tell you who it was but his initials are Garth Reeves. Dr. McCabe: OK. In any case, we would like to purchase 4.96 acres opposite the campus in order to make that expansion and clean up that area and we have a variety of appraisals. You had two, the span of the appraisals is from between two and three million dollars and up to 3.9 million dollars. Mayor Suarez: When you say span of the appraisals, that's a total of two - appraisals? Dr. McCabe: There are four. — Mayor Suarez: Four. Dr. McCabe: We had two, you had two and then we got someone to look at all of - them andthatperson indicated that the appraisal ought to be about three and a quarter million. The Manager has indicated to us that that, as negotiating, is an.'unacceptabie amount." So we are... Mr. Plummer: You're getting better. _ Dr. McCabe: So .we are prepared, Mr. Fine and I are prepared to: recommend to our boarda higher amount above the appraisal that would satisfy -the need for the City on the basis of the fact that we understand that you have some. relocation costs that have to be taken into consideration. _ tk Mr. Plummer: What is your offer? I didn't hear it. Dr. McCabe Well, -I think the figure that the Manager suggested, I don't know.• if I should speak to him, is a minimum of $4 million dollars and it's a figure that Mr. Fine and I are both willing to recommend to our board. y Mr. Plummer: Now, what about the rebuilding of those_ facilities somewhere else?.::•That's for the land. >c Dr. McCabe: That'.* for total. Mir,. Plummer: No, that's, for: the - land. Now, let's talk about, Mr., Manage., what is, it going to cost the City to rebuild' those facilities; on,,: f Mr. Qdipt: It, depends onwho you ask dad what _you want to build. h+{ r rF "rip. Pl.ittpmert I'm asking your t.. t` -1 � i-.,, •:, ",. r, `:. , ;`.' i ,"j ,� i r ,f il; *hk`' .�i3�`b���YZr4f� t '��y'�'. _ Mr Ot�ios. I Baked. the college to at3k s an. iadepeade�ttlra► like ,lSti�,A�,t� y n vT f:A�adela,,..;I .believe-_ t wapa to'do a, study pan That it rworld i I�a� p� a � % • z _.f :#ac#lty aa� theq os�na up witk�' a figu�af,k �ailiioa do�li+.�t$r F �' #w�� IA" = r�tr q ar � _ � { i n j M Ayf : •. - v i' rat j , Mr. Plummer: OK, so then we're up to six, four. Mr. Odio: No, no. — Mr. Fine: J.L., let me say this, Dr. McCabe is - for the record, my name is Martin Fine, I have the pleasure of being a trustee of this college, and have had the pleasure of working with Dr. McCabe, Dr. Tagley, Dr. Hanson and the pleasure of working with the City staff. Mr. Plummer: You excluded the Commission intentionally. Mr. Fine: Well, I'm doing that now. I'm doing that now. Let me just say this, we were and are aware of the City's need to get a fair price and as much money for it as you can. We can tell you that our original appraisal was 1.0 million dollars for the land. Then you add in these other costs. The fact of the matter is, the staff has worked very hard as has the college to come to a point where we could make an offer that you would really feel very comfortable with. And the college has a maximum of three and a half million dollars available to do this. On the other hand, Dr. McCabe - pardon me - Dr. McCabe said that he would be willing to reach into some other funds under appropriate circumstances and come up with a total of $4 million dollars. So what we're - saying is that if you would consider it and if you would maybe pass it on first reading or anyway you'd like to do it, we'll go to our board at the next meeting and recommend we buy it for four million dollars. Let me also say, we're not sitting here as a purchaser trying to buy some property for profit. This is a very, very, very important facility for the community, it's a major expansion. There's a three and a half million dollar expansion that is about to break ground next week. By the way, someone thought it was on the property we'd be buying. It it is not; it is on property the college owns. Basically, this is over 20 percent higher than the appraisal that was ordered by the City and the college.` Mr. Plummer: Marty, let's talk to something much more important than dollars. You and I have discussed it before. That property first entree to this City was from Jackson Memorial Hospital. You could, in fact, relocate somewhere _ else, they can't. OK? Now, you or someone indicated to me that there had been a -compromise struck with Jackson Hospital... Mr. Fine: It has. _ Mr. Plummer: And I need to know what is that compromise because to me, if I have to sit here and vote on health care or schooling, health care is first. And I told you that before. So what deal have you struck with the hospital? �■ Mr. Fine: In words of one syllable, J., you remember 'that Drs.� Hanson and - Tagley and I met with you, you made that very clear then. They have:met with the trust and the trust is in favor of this purchase of the land by Miami -Dade Community College. Prior to your final vote, if you need a letter in writing, we'll get it but we're representing to you that is the case. Mr. Plummer: I would like such because I think I don't want ever be chastised in health-care trust. Mr. Fine: This was done at a full and public meeting of the trust. about two weeks ago.. t Mr. Plummer: If what I... �4 Mr. Dawkins: Mr. Mayor. Mayor'Suarez: Commissioner Dawkins. Mr:' Dawkinai' Iwill` sot be voting in that`I "get MY. �4ivelikood from"HiemiT `� : Dade. `= The' `check' I'get'from herel"is just peanuts, but,.° anyway, 'I soul not."be rm voting but,I think I would be remiss if I were not to. info.4 qQu.-that i�;'we et ,. Miami -Dade weir not preparing people to work in the health care area,.. Jacked Memorial, would be short of qualified help. So, when you talk in teirtr}s of a •_ providing~ health'" care services; you' mist have 'soiiithing'! to 'trail° adiir dig i'n tahch "to ` delivter "the health "care anrvices=a.;or weE doh't aervlcate� $- canirnuz;itl►. ETho' -6thar•`thirig I'd .like: to say while �Dr,� •MjcGabe iwtl qr+� ; Ali McCabe; It �iave : e latter =from Janet MacAliley .and this tetter:sayk f�gia';i9ae'k r HasAlliley. "xthst the ' CPA" Qf Dadia `County. ; Schpols'' pxov'lde ape scnhefigoP 0 scholarships. I'll be discussing this later and you may t gone. Would hat explain to this Commission our scholarship policy so that they will know that we too, along with the school board, deals in providing scholarships to Dade County youngsters. Dr. McCabe: Yes, I think the best way I can explain it is to say that 21,000 students at Miami -Dade Community College got scholarship assistance last year. It breaks down to a whole series of areas a number of federal programs, over $2,000,000 a year of our own internal funds that we raised locally from the community. But we try as hard as we can to first be low cost and secondly, to try to make sure that anybody that has need has that need taken care of. In other words, anyone... if we can get enough money for anyone to go. We come close to that, but it does turn out to be 21,000 students got financial aid last year from the college. I'll also point out that we have with the school system, and Joe Fernandez is back here, some of the most innovative programs right now trying to start with people all the way back in the 10th grade and - bring them up through the college, so it's very, very substantial programming — in that area. Mr. Dawkins: Thank you. I just wanted to let them know that we do work collectively with the school board and that when I bring up what I bring up _ this afternoon, that I will have had somebody to voice my same sentiments. Thank you, Dr. McCabe. Mayor Suarez: Is it clear, Marty, or whoever's acting as your counselor or Doctor, that you are a governmental instrumentality or agency under the state - code for - is it state or City ordinance? Mr. Fernandez: Charter. Mr. Fine: It's a City Charter provision in the... Mayor Suarez: Under the charter provision. Mr. Fernandez: Yes. Mr: Fine: ... the City Charter provision very much what J:L. saps, the County would have to give us a waiver of that and we'll have that in writing and the answer is, that'Steele, Hector & Davis are counsel of the college and they'll give you an opinion, your City Attorney opinion that we are that type of agency which qualifies`. _ Mayor Suarez:. I just want to get it on the record. Mr. Plummer: How do I justify, Marty, to the taxpayers of this City that the appraisal came out at 3.2 is what I'm told by the Manager, and now I've got to spend 2.4 to build another facility, which comes to 5.6 and you're offering me four? Mr. Fine: J. L.. Dr. McCabe: I think the appraisal is for the whole property, not, just for the land, Mr. Plummer: No, no, I understand that, but I've got.to take 2.4 million of _ that. money and build anew facility. Dr., McCabe:,' I know you have to replace...64 s_t Mr. Plummer. I can't, you know, just forget about it, Doctor. Now, in Mayor �Suarers "You `know, in the .case.- of - Camillus' House', y u "didn't ' ►ant to , sks:, into `account, the difficulty of_ replaciagit. Now you pot a... a - r� Mr. Fine: Sure. Dr: McCabe': List tae ,tiny oae more and say that just as an iiltxstra-tion someoi�e�' aid.' e e of ere and we were avtaide and some one aoiJ4 that we Ve, A _t, 1f we w. _ wiil'ing T.Q.- caipq in', :and build, what' we're wljlinp to build ; hls`'comuaurilty at that 'location, I thi�i}c that you �4Ol�d f�a:l th�►t t - I =��� se.'al' bagairi for tine"pity, We"are`not sometiing taking, sw$'e �re;re n4 gctia }, r to make money, we're going to contribute to the well being of the City at that point... Mr. Plummer: I understand that. You're actually contributing to the welfare of the entire County and South Florida. This property is owned by the _ taxpayers of the City only. Now, in effect, from what I'm reading, what _ you're really offering us for the piece of property is 1.6. If you give us the four and we get 2.4 to build a new facility, then the taxpayers of this community for a given piece of property have been paid 1.6. Now, I just really don't feel that's fair. I got to be honest with you. — Dr. McCabe: J.L., may I... Mayor Suarez: Let me just answer by saying that it would not require 2.4 million dollars to move what we have there. In fact, I think it would require a stick of dynamite to just tear the whole place down and demolish it because what we have there is worth almost nothing so whoever came up with a figure of 2.4 million dollars... Mr. Plummer: I'm using the administration's figure. I don't know, Mr. Mayor and I... — Mayor Suarez: I went and looked at it, I went and looked at the site, it's a bunch of old warehouses, there are employees there working under conditions that no one should have to work under and how it could possibly cost 2.4 million dollars to relocate that is beyond me. Mr. Plummer: I don't know either. - Mr. Fine: J. L., may I take a shot at giving you an answer. There are a lot of - you all have a long agenda and this might be education day with Dr. Fernandez here and Dr. Foote and Dr. McCabe. You ought to, this com... Mayor Suarez: Dr.' Fine. Mr. Fine: No, not me. I would just like to say, you're getting brand new facilities for ramshackle things that are existing now. Your people... Mr. Plummer: And we're losing valuable property. Mrs. Kennedy: That's why it costs so much, because we're building new facilities. l Mr. Fine: J.L., J.L., let me.just say this. As a taxpayer here for 40 years, I love you for your 'conservatism but I think what you need to do is look beyond the appraisal and realize that.the City's gone into that with money in 4 their hands for property that they can be able to convey and get a big, big public benefit from the community college that's the largest in America, rated academically number one,,dealing with health issues that you have to deal with t every day and I really would say to you candidly, one of the problems in our community,_ you're never a hero in your own home town. Mr. Dawkins: I didn't want to do this. I may as well do it. You know, it's; amazing how conservative we are now because we have a piece of property in Liberty City or Overtown or in that area and yet, 'further on today, you're thinking in terms of giving up a piece of valuable bayfront property"that has ' I don't know how much value and you're thinking in terms of letting the.school board buy it from somebody who don't even own it, the University, of Miami::. ems; It's` the City of Miami's property and yet later on today, we're going t'O forget.all our, conservatism and we're going to let the you will, because my 3 vote will not allow the University of Miami to sell'- piece of property that _ does not belong to them.to the school board for three million dollars`-that'a — worth approximately !$20'million and you're -not going to be conservative. Mrs Pl r lease` all'the• people all the tuna..._. . D;awkiae: Ant, now,,, you're- codservative well, I .hppe .you're just .,es;•ix. conservative them as we are now. - Mx Fines tir: Mayor, may I just Mention this to indicate again the:aamItment f te,�ommuniy,cA�ege., There'a, a.major.,new.,c�mpus tieing liu�lt let 6r' Street and" 7th Av. epue' rght''amack `in the heart of Liberty: City, r:ia aolle8e �5"� of any institution in town, and many others are, is committed to this community and to serving the needs of this community that's right in the City L but not of Miami and you really need a kind of stretch a little bit, J. . , very much in order to understand this situation and I know you're capable of doing that. Dr. McCabe: I'd add one more... Mayor Suarez: It certainly, by the way, fits our development purposes in that area. It would be a great thing to have that expansion of the medical center and having just participated in your commencement, I could see what _ Commissioner Dawkins was referring to before as the fantastic graduates you're putting out into our medical care and health care industry. Doctor, I think what we have to do, at this point, is the Commission has to sort of make policy here and I know how I feel and I think it's pretty clear that I'm ready to agree to a figure and four million dollars sounds quite reasonable to me. I'm excited about your building this there but I think we ought to hear from the rest of the Commission and get on with the business of before us today. - Mr. Vice Mayor. Mr. De Yurre: I'd like to know, Cesar, exactly what is it that we have to transfer out of that property? Mr. Odio: We have to transfer the Public Works operation and the property maintenance and operation out of there into next to the other facility we have on 20th Street. We have... Mr. Plummer: You ain't hit the biggie. You haven't hit the most expensive one. Mr. Odio: We have to demolish... Mr. Plummer: The most expensive thing is going to be to move is , Communications. Mr. Odio: No, were not moving that. Mr. Plummer: It is;going to be... Mr. Odio: We're not moving that, we're not moving Communications. Mr. Plummer: It's staying there? Mr.. Odio: It!s-not part of the ,deal. Mr. Plummer: Well, you'd better show us a:map of what,,.. Mr. Odio:.. I thinkyou'd better see the, map ;because the map goes down the middle of the property does not include the property main... Motor Pool... t Mr. Plummer: If you gotta move... Mr. Odio: it does not include the, Motor Pool or the Communications. It only includes part of property maintenance and Public Works. i_ rs„r Mr. Plummer: Show me what it includes. Mr. De Yurre:,, Where are you going to be moving this property to? Mr. Odiov, We'r�e,gping.to,move where, the old incinerator is. Mr. Fines..-J. L.-has a map. r, Odiosk It will be demolished and we will be tied into Solid Waste ant the GSA Building. Mr. De Yurre: You're planning to knock down the old incinerator, — Mr Odip: Yes.- Yes, atr. Mr Ae Yur;e. Aridtrs'going tQ cost:how much to build ...? - 1 r 7e t r Ix rf't - Mr. Odio: $300,000. That's part of the 2.4. It will be $3000000 to demolish the bid inethtretor. i4ti, De Yurres SO, with 2.4 sbillion dollars, we will continue operatingi.. Mr. Odio: That's correct. Mr. De Yurre: ... at a new site, with a new facility. Mr. Odio: Yes, sir. Yes, air. Mr, Finet Might. Mr. Plummer: OK, can I - I wish I'd seen the map first, all right9 c6rrected. Mr. Odio: I'm sorry you didn't see it before. Mr. Fine: But it helps make the point this way. Mr. Odio: It makes the point better. Mr. Plummer: Let me tell you something. At this particular point, I think you're getting robbed. I could not envision - the whole site, yes... Mr. Fine: Your flexibility is enhanced only by your good looks. Mr. Plummer: That portion of the site is not worth 3.2 million dollars. The whole site is. Mr. Fine: Yes, would you read in the record that your Manager beat us over the head for the money, J. L. Mr. Plummer: OK. Mr'. Fine: All right. Mr: Plunnet: No hey", this map changes my mind entirely: Because if you're not moving Communications, that is a biggie. Mr. De Yurre: Mr. Mayor... " Mr. Plummer: -Now, are you including in'that 2.4 million because it is going to be a damn expensive item to tear down that old incinerator... :F Mr. Odio: I just mentioned that it's three hundred thous... Mr. -Plummer: Environmentally sensitive in soiled ground... Me. odio: " No, no, no wait a minute. Hold : it,_ come ons, Commissioner. Three Y' hundred thousand dollar... Mks. Kennedy:`-"And`the environmental' risk is on'the purchaser. .L Mr. Fine: Yes. Mr,' Plummer:'�No, no, no. Ilm",talking about where he ix' - proposing td build e ; new motor ='pool iir: -;going' _ to ° demolish- the old incinerator at a cost approximate $300,000 that is part of the 2.4,` t fs Cs Mr. k'lumsners {chat about the environmeat al underneath the, gxaundf of �►ny waste products?= lr.:' F�ae: That s our; problem. Miami Dade ins, . • lry utnyyaeyrysa L Nei, taTkitfg about -in° iiur'ir►cinez�itor;3�we'Ysg►tkhvJ4b`d� ' yTm ' `� � i gtir"}��� — ilr, . Fines Thst�'�+ y9t�t �t�►blesa: my 0r9bl.em,, Mr. Odios but we don't feel that there is on the... — Mayor Suareits It has been our problem, it is still our problem and will be —� -our preblem::: Mr. Fine: Yes. Mrs. Kennedy: It will be our problem. Mr. olio: There are no underground... Mr. Plummert Not necessarily if I have my way, it might be their problem. Mr. Fines Well, let me say this to you, J. L. You've just read into the record that you're robbing us, why don't we kind of understand it. — Mr. Plummers But with friendly rob. Mr. Fine: We can't accept the responsibility for any property beyond our boundary. Mr. Odios Well, we did agree that any environmental issue... Mr. Fine: On our property. - Mr. Odio: ... on the property that you're buying is yours. -- Mr. Fine: We agree to that, we read it in the record, counsel. Mr. Plummer: When are you going to pay us? -- Mr. Odio: When we close. 1 Mr. 'Fine: We're going to pay it ourselves of the contract you have asked.to= ,t remove. } Mr. Plummer: When are you going to pay us the four million dollars? _ is - Mr. Fine: Mr. President::. Mr, Plummer: And also what is the time of getting out so we have the time to , build a new facility? - , Dr. McCabe: Yes, —we —have to'give you`the time'you need.,s Mr. Odio: We agree that we would, what, 18 months? From the time of the closing'... Mr. Plummer: I like his terminology'tthe time that we need: a Dr. McCabe: Well, we, you know, we want to get in as soon as we can. We will 3> give you; --the time that you need and we're prepared to'make-the payments -and to negotiate with the Manager.as to when 'those need:to be made. Mr. :Odios. Right. = Actually,, Cotmaissioners, what`I think we should do is if r you approve this deal today that we will go ahead and start demolishi, ,old .'incinerator` anyway, ; right:: away. . So that.,by °the- time of the close, have that .out ?of--the�,.way.' and -,-then , have it ready,,as close to`: twelve moh _ l� possible-becausi.they do -want to start their.: Mx: Ds-"Yurres `Ms'.=Mayor,,- I'm'ready to, move' and 1-so move. -- Mr. PIW=ers- So, amI. Mrs ''Kgnnedy►�.. 'So arpk.I`. ayox' Su,�rezt l.lii entertain';ta tn'otion;~: "Morey ti�a��Dhe; �tvio,{ths why rlea'so; to m0body .06vA t l�r. Yuri�es �'m seox ng Move it T • .•. .. ILNnh!aA4fiAP.+M'iNMNMfP1WTM!lbAii� - f •- Mrs. Kennedy: Second. Mr. Fernandez: Mr. Mayor, so long as... Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded. I think the motion, the import of the motion is to proceed to complete negotiations on the purchase on the sale of the land at a figure of 4.0 million dollars. Mr. Plummer: And bring it back to the Commissioner for final approval. Mayor Suarez: Mr. City Attorney. Mr. Fernandez: Yes, subject to us being satisfied that this is, in fact, outside of the charter provision, by getting that opinion. Mr. Plummer: And before you bring it back... Mayor Suarez: But you believe that they are, I mean, it's a governmental `n entity. Now, when University of Miami tries to tell us they're a governmental entity, you know, then that might be a little more interesting, but... Dr. McCabe: Miami Dade Community College is a creature of the State Legislature, so we are an entity but we'll get you that opinion and we'll get the letter from the hospital trust. Mayor Suarez: We have a motion and a second. Any further discussion? Mr. Plummer: My daughter goes there. Dr. McCabe: I understand. Mr. Plummer: Now, you know I'm getting beat in the head. Mayor Suarez; Just out of curiosity, Mr. Manager, what budget year do these funds go into? t Mr. Plummer: That's:what I asked when we were going to be paid?_ Mr. Odio: Well, it.would-be - we are, in June, it would be.next year and what I'd like to.. ask :permission is: to go :ahead" and ,start procedure on the incinerator if you:would let me, start, getting bids on that. Mr. Plummer: Well,_I'll .tell, you what I, would like. I Like the four _ million dollars to;be;held in escrow and that none of that money be dispersed until the new facility is completed, paid for and any balance then turned over 0 to general funds. �x Mr. Odio: That's your decision, but I mean, what I'd like... Mr. De Yurre :- We use ,that money for either payoff Camillus House or whatever other capital, acquisition that we have. ;i Mayor Suarez: I really think whatever we do with the four million, that we shouldn't have to decide that today. We don't have it yet. ,ti_ �a Mr. Plummer: No, we don't have it but still, all'in all... }E" y4 Mayor Suarez: Just as long as the Manager understands that none, of that can _ ""to? be ,spent until,we decide otherwise. I would not vote to put it in -.,I= wouldn't vote for either of the two ideas I heard so far so I would.,,just fit_ suggest,, ghat you ;:;don't:. tquch the ., money which, ; We . don't .hays until the #N _ APPropriatl,rme :until .the Commisaion.is.acted.on. r Mr. Fwr'. Mayor, . oPn :4ie.,alC yo u... thi ? & ul _ �Mr,. , Qdio ..; Can ; : repeat? M Fi es,' QxFt Y: . this ;'apaa we vg!sk�i# m.� Kal.ii pa$�s it :0 qua board paeo ing: I hope. Mr.ardgaae 4S- herev _.._ ... s j°+RP¢ some back to' the board- oard meeting sQ we. can flaaiirpe z e N1Yw2'N$faZts1»`+rwlNMSf�Y�IB�S�fQ,IM�Y�WYYJt!N`s�'V.�MI'. � Y � �.'I'} Mayor Suarez: Yes, please get it all drafted negotiated and finalized for the ,dune meeting so that this doesn't take forever. It's taken longer than I wished it — Mr. Plummers As far as I'm concernedi it could come back on the 25th of this month. — Mr. Fines We wouldn't be able to get it... Mr. Odio: No May, no May, but... Mayor Suarez: OK, we have a motion and a second. Any further discussion? if not... Mr. Odio: Crn I proceed with the incinerator? Mr. Plummer: You have to. Mr. Odio: OK, now.. Mayor Suarez: Yes. Mr. Odio: ... because at the timetable that... Mr. Plummer: Have to. Mayor Suarez: Yes, assuming this passes, you really ought to be moving on - no, this is our internal thing, Marty. Call the roll. The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner De Yurre, who moved its adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 89-438 A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION AUTHORIZING THE- CONVEYANCE< OT� APPROXYMATELY 4.4 ACRES OF -CITY OF MIAMI OWNED PROPERTY LOCATED ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF NORTHWEST :20TIl STREET AND l0TH_AVENUE,;,.TO BE USED _ FOR; :EXPANSION OF THE MIAMI-DADE COMMUNITY COLLEGE MEDICAL . CENTER. CAMPUS, SAID AUTHORIZATION. BEING SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS SET FORTH HEREIN. (Here :follows _body of: resolution, omitted here sand .on .----file in the.Office.of the City Clerk.) i :.Upon :being seconded by Commissioner Kennedy, :the resolution was passed andadopted by the following vote: AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Commissioner.Rosario Kennedy Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins Vice Mayor Victor De Yurre Mayor'Xavier L. Suarez a NOES None. ABSTAINS: Commissioner Miller Dawkins ABSENT: None �q Mayor; Suarez i I81he-1•ike that, Richard, in partnership meetings,'ha+ wants o; ,fi r _ get involvsd in. all the things? I can imagine: Mir giile: pMr. r 1 E74� 7 i Mayor, and met�pexs of the Commission....f ,$ k M Mayox Suaram,: .. A 1p. Mr.. F#net ti .. aye i= s y :ibis,:;candidly A we. than you; B, want to i�omlgeR ' i f the .Iianagr and his .very capable staff; for ;being patient Wand +iiBAb�r,}r'f� _`. c t�� baAB xsry�good:wt�agntiatoa aYatxiG%Cf9�'WMrt1:wiN4ilrovs;Nx.M+!w-HkGSPFNf ��.. 28. DISCUSSION CONCERNING OPENING DOMINO PARK ON SUNDAYS THROUGHOUT END OF FISCAL YEAR. Mr. Plummer: Mr. Manager, let me ask you a question. I notice in the paper that you've extended another day at Domino Park. Is that correct? INAUDIBLE COMMENTS NOT ENTERED INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD. Mr. Plummer: Sunday. And how many hours is that open on Sunday? Mr. Odio: I don't know... Mr. Plummer: Eight hours. Mr. Odio: Eight hours. Mr. Plummer: Yes, may I inquire, Mr. Manager, why it cost us $637.58 an hour to operate Domino Park? Mr. Odio: I'm sorry, we do not operate Domino Park... Mr. Plummer: Well... Mr. Odio: That Domino Park is operated by the Little Havana... Mayor Suarez: Well, for the authority to operate Domino Park. y Mr. Odio: To authority... Mr. Plummer: Excuse me, why is it cost... Mr. Odio: I:gave them an additional $20700... Mayor -Suarez: I think the figures are wrong, Commissioner. I think your figures are wrong. Mr: Odio:-. That figure is wrong.' Mr. Plummer: I am only... if the figures in the paper are wrong, then so stateit for the record. You... Mr. Odio: We gave them an additional $2,700 to their budget. r Mr. Plummer: The papers... Mayor Suarez: For what.period of time?- For what period of time? Mr. Carlos Smith: We gave. them twenty-five hundred, $2,574 to open up the park on Sundays through the rest of this fiscal year. ti Mr. Plummer: The article in the paper then, for the record, is wrong., It., says you gave an additional $5,100 to open on Sunday.*` b- Mr. Smiths That's what the paper said, that's true: e� Mayor Suarez: And: you divided that by the number of hours and :you,' came tip ',y,Yn with seven hundred bucks.'x , Mr: Plummer: Yes; How else can you do it? 3�S 1 Mr. Odia:I have to get you more customers:°�N+x p Mayor.. Suarez: Well - you got to figure out the period in question xt,p s - the and.of ,'the'f**cak -y*ar. F : t Vlu-It.'w -It.'one day, M!eight- hours; M Qdio3 = �1 here . Q gyou ores,,cl et is } tY i LAY w� i t h °t= scvt'zce' . vF�daClw.wr.{.r� Mt. Plummer: How gimple can you be, eight divided into fifty-one hundred comes out to that amount of money. Mrs. Kennedy: There he goes again. Mayor Suarez: it's not how simple one can be, it's how simple can you be? Mr. Odio: No, but, but... Mayor Suarez: You should have asked how many hours it covered. How many — Mr. Odio: It's been an issue and 1 figured that for $2,500 or whatever it was -4orth, well... _ Mayor Suarez: Anyhow, I wish that they would really get straight the story so it doesn't come out in the paper wrong somehow. Mr. Odio: Well, I don't know where they got these numbers. Mayor Suarez: I wish the paper would get the story straight. Mr. Plummer: The longest running article in the Miami Herald is Setting the - Record Straight. Mayor Suarez: Really. I love the article that the Community Development block grant monies came from a transportation fund, I still get a kick out of that one and it even made it to the editorial that way, no matter how much=t screamed. Ronnie was off on a honeymoon, I think. Maybe that was factor. ------------- 29. (A) REQUEST BY UNIVERSITY OF MIAMI FOR, RELEASE OF RESTRICTIONS AND { REVERTER INVOLVING THE PROPERTY "PLANET OCEAN" in exchange or -120 r- half scholarships. s- (B)'RELEASE "PLANET OCEAN" FROM ALL RIGHTS UNDER DEED RESTRICTIONS. -- ---------------------------------------- ---- N ------ --- Mayor Suarez , I'm'in"a quandary: I want to ask the Commission how they -want to"ino�re` 'Dr'. `Foote and' -Dr. Fernandez. Your Stem is not the next one..Z don''a r° bet ieve , - Mr. Plummer: Out of courtesy, Mr. -Mayor, if you took `the privilege -of doing f, for'one, I"guess we've got to do for the other. Mayor Suarez: I think 'that's fair. Although neither one of, them 'has" the , ailment that Dr. McCabe, had that gave us an additional`reason•for taking him out of 'turn; but I'd be disposed to do that. ' It is a matter of; great public interest,' it involves the fourth largest school system in the countrry and one of'the-best, if -not the best university on the country and we,'d like.to'seie!f F- Y we.. that doesn't mean that we're going to agree on anything here."''You'-'Ve. senn the proceedings' and heard and I don't know, we shall see:" Counseior,'how are you involved in this? Al: Cardenas,Esq.I represent these folks. y - �f Mayor Suarez Oh-. What item is ft? Mr.°`Dawkins: Represent who? Mr Cardenass Thar' International'' Oceanographic Foundation. Paartofh } VhW rsity of(Miami: ' { c r F # Dawkins s - Oh, ; -, th6djht ° ft w® ' j dst wanted -toknaws, wa kwaDtad' oxW. sj that�s "f"sji3yrr M i Mr.4Cardenas: I �snderst'and t Mr,�+�uns►aexs it s on the aganda. _ S% 4FtX kx�G {r i" r -r sg4r &tsa e� s 86.;%ih6V ,% kaapa reaippear ,114 .- ^e. Y Mr. Dawkins: Yes, he does. Tverytime you look up, we see him. _ Mr, l'lutmnar: So the answer is, don't look up. Mayor Suarez: And he had something to do with the elections in where, North Miami? Mr. Plummer: Item 52. — Mayor Suarezt This young lady that came out of nowhere and won the elections - for Mayor of North Miami, you were involved in that too? Mr. Cardenas: I plead innocent. Mr. Dawkins: Evergtime I look, he's has a lady elected to something. Mr. Cardenas: OK. Mr. Dawkins: Go ahead, counselor, please. Mr. Cardenas: Shall we get started? Mayor Suarez: Yes, please. i Mr. Dawkins: Please. Mr. Cardenas: Thanks. My name is Al -Cardenas with offices at 1221 Brickell Avenue. I'm here on behalf of the International Oceanographic Foundation. As s you know, it's associated with the University of Miami, and I'd like to introduce two individuals who I think are the best spokesmen for *}::proposal: One, of course, is Tad Foote, the president of the University of Miami. Dr._ Foote's here with us and I'd like for him to come forward 'f he will and,th,e perintendent of our -school` system.Y.And other is Joe Fernandez, who's the su I'd like for them.to briefly tell you how this came;about, why and why,Jt's_to thebenefit of the community who will - where the ownership will continue to be. -and the public will continue to benefit .from it. Dr. Foote. . rr Dr —Tad _Foote: Thank you very much. Mr. Mayor , members'of the: Commission, :my x name ;is Edward, called Tad Foote,. and I'm. representing the International Oceanographic Foundation,: the owner of the property called, -Planet, Ocean. ;And in' another context,: I.'m ; also representing, the ; :,University, of Miami, , I: t:am ;. president.of• each organization: If I may just-take:about.a minute .to put,this transaction in context, .perhaps it .will.' help in your: deliberation._ The F International Oceanographic Foundation is a research, 'foundation Ghat was _ established by Walton Smith, the founding dean of the Rosenstiel School which ru is the marine sciences school on Virginia Key. • IOF (International �- Oceanographic Foundation) was started in 1953 to assist in: the work .of: the University and the Rosenstiel School. I would mention parenthetically that the Rosenstiel School, since 1953, has now grown, into one of the leading research - marine. research institutes in the world with 75 full time scientists. When Dean Smith retired in 1973, he moved the International Oceanographic Foundation away from the Universfty and with the assets it thenh= had, and additional assets that were raised, he built Planet Ocean in 1976. - It opened its doors on. the -11.2 acres that were given:IOF by the City "of Miami. Planet,. Ocean opened in 1976 and you may be interested to know the ` attendance figures. In 1976, 151,000 people went through Planet Ocean ;in{ 1976.:' Unfortunately, .10 years later, the year that JOF,was taken over Eby the i4 _ University,,: that. figure : had: dropped to 77,000 which $a.; one of the;: rea$o s� that k �� we are --here .today. About 3::yeara ago; Walton. Smith,, Deaa,.Smith; the University.-,-. He and . I ;had.,' several conversations .becauso IOY�,Vas } R Into:." yery;;sorious: financial difficulty. ,:: To - make... a Flang;, and unforLnpat:atoi►'' i short; the ..def;itix , was _running7, at a ..rate of fabout 560P,000 A, spring `_1986', there wwere a.;eeries Q#. °aeBat atioue End appr Rime e r ,q�ga 6 .. r. aa�nthUi i estsr �e- ago, , think' it m responsibilities .for for,,: which did,; own. and does .Qwa ,Planet77s►'� �idvib�edi I pupt-.;eay, ;because a have vur_ own_. tlni�reraity of�c7MJeiai, *,-lie'=4i4n,+t. ;real q, used acaabod)r.,: ]ss{a a �t =bl ► � ,'w n? - t+�ok�- over 1 the property becaause:. ; we -.. thought;. thatx the i'ouiaati,�hat� ;{4 ;; bdpause;; tre thc�ngh :awobe one, that {:tbejcp. acQuld era >f 3,t ►:i h e n . as ori8i i��► had +u�►� the 0 and; iA 't�s .benef of 'ian�i � Q+ a. ►a, � � _ ai�hx�3b0 r4bta.o #i8uro :oyt how t.o- oextsB .tls ass .fin cs►h6 , in the public interest and would not be a drain on the University. And we took it over about 3 years ago and did many things which I will spare you this afternoon unless you'd like to press further on it. But the short of our experience with IOF is even though we were able to reduce the operating deficit to about $250,000 a year, we have not been able to reduce it further and the attendance at the museum has hovered around 77-80,000. In 1488, it dropped to 74,000 which is the lowest in the 10 year history of the International Oceanographic foundation operation of Planet Ocean. Shortly after we took over the Foundation, we were approached by the Dade County school system with the possibility of selling that property to the school system and there began a series of discussions and negotiations which lasted for - well, they're still in existence, I suppose, but they lasted until a few months ago when we reached an agreement on a sale price of 3 million dollars for the property and $850,000 for the equipment inside. That 3 million dollars is almost exactly the appraised price as presently zoned according to an appraiser retained by the school system, if I'm not mistaken, almost exactly. If it were rezoned, Commissioner Dawkins, I believe the figure is something in the neighborhood of $12 million dollars, not $20 million dollars, according to our appraiser. It... Mr. Dawkins: Thank you, Dr. Foote. Dr. Foote: Yes, sir. In any event, we have reached agreement: It is subject, of course, to the approval of the City Commission. Some weeks ago, it was suggested that I meet with Commissioner Plummer as somebody who has taken a particular interest in Virginia Key. .. Mayor Suarez: The reason, by the way, Doctor, that it's subject to our approval is because of a reverter clause, is that why? f Dr. Foote: There is a reverter clause that if we do not use the property for _ a museum, -then the property reverts to the City of Miami, as I understand it. - I don't have the technical language in front of me, but that's essentially what it means. It was suggested that I speak with Commissioner Plummer, which I had the pleasure of doing and with all due respect to :our distinguished Mayor, it's not accurate that I don't like the way he negotiates. We had a very pleasant meeting concerning the property and concerning how the 3 university. could assist in.this transition and:the upshot _of.that meeting was a letter which all of you should have a copy in which ,following a subsequent meeting, we have offered 15 half scholarships to the UniversityofMiami for the next four, years and l0 half scholarships for the six years following fora total of ten years of scholarships.to the University of Miami. They are half scholarships because we are able to leverage other funds.so that .the money can go farther to help citizens of the City of Miami study at: the.Uaiversity,;of "- s� Miami. -This sale, I believe, that was acceptable to the Commissioner. He will speak .for himself, of course, but it was something that ..we, are ,happy to do. We will pay, for the .scholarships within the normal internal workings of the University but that is - this sale, then, would be contingent on those scholarships. One more... Mrs. Kennedy: Excuse me, Doctor Foote... Dr. Foote: Yes, please. Mrs. Kennedy: ... are these scholarships open for everybody or just ,for marine biologists? Dr. Foote: My p suggestion, to the Commissioner, was that they, be ,ripen, to students who ex toss and interest in marine,science;andthe: eason,,for that in ri that the property is to be used Jor a - massed academy as_ will . be expla ned14;by the, superintendent. Frankly,, and secondly, because the lcaternat3on� Oceanographic.Foundation its dedicated :.to _, marine scien+ce.. ws seemed ; f itt.ing .ln , this wonderful ,oceanographic , city:,: : vrorlii of" k� - oceAp : busiiness', . that that ,, would ::be-good,i for, the. City: ovef,, they Irongir�g:_3',�arm . N' From, the [Tniversity's point of view., tint ,ins not an easentiai ,.art bi} that has b as what we have ,d.,iacussed end ; it has :been what . X ;,gave ..*u Sated to thq Commissi ,n. Ii l ;ni ht touch, on .one .more ` 4. B Point and then I'll answer. whatever questions. I'd like to, if I may, touch on a point that Commissioner I?ewkit�s svv� r�iaed� fie. hays . the U»iversity; of Miami has Lost a lot of .money on this ' fr .. - ... F venture. I regret to say. that we now have an.accumuated deficit PVdS the nt three. >*Ygers o 4pproximateiy :. $800.,Qg0• The ; x 3#¢rneti4 41 ,.,Qca4n4 10 r � ouAdatioWhig .I< also x'epresent,. tgdRY.� hae lo4,t_-4.;9goA -mOne 4 flays i F ink - 1 a, > T- - 0 0 than that, millions of dollars have gone into this venture of Planet Ocean. I don't have the exact figure here, the books are not with me but millions of dollars have gone into this venture. We very seriously considered every alternative that we could think of including continuing to operate the museum as a museum. The problem with that, from our point of view at least, has been that we have not been able to find the money to do it. We're talking about an investment of several million dollars at a minimum according to the information that's been given to us by experts, in order to bring the museum back up to a condition at which it would be a first rate museum and one in which we could all be proud. I understand there may be another speaker who will make the point far better than I could, that it should stay a museum and I understand that point. I think a museum and that property is a fair and good public use for that property and if that is your pleasure, then we will do our best to do what we have to do next. However, we also believe that an equally and perhaps even greater public good is served by this massed academy. If you approve of this sale, for reasons that the superintendent will explain, there will be a wonderful, exciting new institution in our community on the water and right across the street from the marine scieuces school of the University of Miami and the Seaquarium. The kind of synergism that we believe could come from the sorts of partnerships from the City school, from the County school system, the City of Miami, the existing facilities, a world class university research institute on Virginia Key to me are very, very exciting and do constitute a public interest well worthy of support. I concede to my friend, Erik Speyer, who will probably speak next that his point Is a good one. I don't deny the point at all. My point is not to disagree that a museum is a good use. My point is to say that after three years of study and a great deal of time with the superintendent and his associates, we believe this other use is equally worthy in the public interest and we comment it to you. That's the end of my presentation unless you have questions, ladies and gentlemen. Mayor Suarez: Al, if you want to defer to Commissioner Plummer who wants to crake a presentation on... Mr. Cardenas: OK, what I'd like to do is, maybe you may want to hear from the - superintendent first, but we'll handle it however you prefer. Mr. Plummer: Well, I really don't think that's necessary, Al. You know, the superintendent is the final recipient if this Commission votes that way. What I did negotiate with Dr. Foote was that we would receive, the City, a hundred and twenty half scholarships over a period of ten years. I think it is important to remember that what we are not selling the property, we are selling the piece of the reverter clause that refers to 1991. If the Universitystayed there for an additional two years, that reverter clause, according to the contract, is out; it ceases to exist. We are not selling the land. We are selling the reverter clause. The opposite side of the coin is this. That in effect, and I'm not going to say technically or otherwise, presently that contract is been breached. Breached was that it must be maintained in a condition as it was from the beginning. That condition, if they were to adhere to the contract, but I think be in excess of two million dollars for continued 'operation to 191 which, in effect, then the reverter ceases. What we, in effect, are doing is selling the reverter clause to the year 1991. In return, we will get 120 scholarships established in value at approximately one million dollars. Mr. Mayor, that is what I negotiated. I do if the Commission accepts that, I noticed your comments in the paper, I have shown you that from Janet MacAlliley which is think is a very fine way that -there would be never any question as to who would receive these scholarships. The only thing that I would reserve the right, under this Commission, is that the CAP, the college entrance program 'that they would,.in fact,: go ' through and do all of the screening but the Commission Itself --would only -have a list of those persons who are qualified for that particular year. y_ I think that's basically the same system that is used with, the,Congreosioual r - �T into the' Naval Academy,, the Air Force Academy and things of ° that nature':' ' I #m .into we're' going - to have probably 50 requests 'every- `year, of"' which° or,77 ;y might be acceptable.' -Once they; then, would turn that list over to us, this s Commission would have the right to make the choice from that eligible list. I '= 4 think that's only` -fair to this Commission. — Mayor Suarez: Commissioner Dawkins. �= Mr, Dawkins':- Mr. Ma or..`m onl concern"is that I'donIt think 5 y , Y Y the City ' ishouid f enter''into any, deals that all public property, irregardless'of-whethor it's _s kfi { 93 May 9 r k3ry ours now or in 190 or in 191, without the public receiving adequate compensation. Commissioner Plummer spoke to that a few minutes ago as we negotiated a deal with Miami -Dade community College. His bottom line was, adequate compensation. Now, in the event that the land is sold, the land belongs to the City, the money should come to the City. In my opinion, it _ should not go to the University of Miami. I agree with Dr. Foote, the land _ should be used by the Dade County School Board but the Dade County School Board should receive the same favoritism that we gave University of Miami, they should use it for a dollar a year. And why are we going to penalize the Dade County School Board, a public entity, when we didn't penalize a private entity, the University of Miami? But, in the event that you do waive the land to the University of Miami, and in the event that the University of Miami does receive compensation for the School Board, I am against locking scholarships into the University of Miami. A million dollars should come to the City of Miami to put into CD funds or what have you and each year, let the interest from the million dollars be awarded in scholarships and let the student choose where it want to go. Now, I'm against locking students into University of = Miami, but that's my personal opinion. I just don't think that we should tell _ a student if your desirous of going to college, the only place you can go is to the University of Miami. But, that's my views and I'll be voting accordingly, Mayor Suarez: What is the... you made an interesting - you made two points, the first one of which I wanted to inquire about. What is the thinking or the rationale behind if the University obtain this land essentially free at -'some_ point, I gather, the University turning around and then selling it to another public agency? Is it, as I would guess, the expenditure that you've incurred in building up the facility and so on? And not to mention the losses, is that the thinking? Dr. Foote: Yes, let me be clear again. I'm speaking on behalf of the International Oceanographic Foundation when it comes to the transaction that's before you. I'm speaking on behalf of the University of Miami when I offer the scholarships. The thinking is that the value of the money that we have invested is vastly in excess of the $3 million dollars, $3,850,000, and I don't have an exact figure for you. But if this proposition goes through, the International Oceanographic Foundation will not at all be reimbursed; for the monies that it has put into this public venture over the last decade or to. It's been a big, big... Mayor Suarez: You have a rough estimate of what that may have been? Dr. Foote: Oh, it's many millions of dollars. I don't know that I'- ten million is what my associate says, but I think those are round figures and that's 1n original dollars so the present value could be upwards of $18 million dollars that the Foundation has lost on Planet Ocean alone. I think those are loose numbers but because over the years, there have been different owners and different people. But it's been a great deal of money. So, in effect, the land itself remains at a dollar. If you decide to approve this transaction, in effect you're giving the land to the school district, for a dollar, and you're allowing the foundation to recoup a few of its assets to plough back into the original purpose of the foundation. Mayor Suarez: And it was under the auspices of the University of Miami.` - Dr. Foote: The International Oceanographic Foundation was founded originally... } 3aY Mayor Suarez: Commissioners, Mr. Manager, Mr. City Attorney; we're going' to ti 'F need a `little bit 'of quiet. here, otherwise we can't proceed: If `we,',needt"t-o s get legal questions` answered, we can get 'those done too;-:. D"r Foote: The• rnternational7 Oceanographic Foundation was founded: in 195', by `a Dean :Smith° '•when he was Dean of ` the ` Rosenstiel School - and'- he then took- the Foundation'with him when he retired in 1973. Mr 'Plummeri Wait $ minute, excuse me. Mr. Mayor..':, Mayor Suarez: Commissioner Plummer.{ Mr.; We've "got a'"problem over here. Find)-' that hY eontract; You Ire looking at the deed, 4 h s ��rit r 94 Hey 1l Mr. Fernandez: Mr. Mayor... Mr. P1unlner: In my files, you've got a copy of the contract of the City of Miami and 1...— Mr. Fernandez: ... a point of clarification. Mr. 'Plummer: IOF, the Planet Ocean. Mr. Fernandez: The deed restriction that we're talking about, while it was at one time opined by my office that there was - that that deed restriction will become extinct. It will disappear in 1991. On further research, we have an authority of Florida Statute 689-18. It does not operate to extinguish this deed restriction so the deed restriction that we're talking about has a life with no end. I mean, it doesn't expire in 1991 like perhaps... Mayor Suarez: It was stated before. Mr. Fernandez: It was stated before. And Mr. Cardenas... _ Mr. Plummer: But, wait a minute... Mr. For has been made aware of that by our office subsequent to — striction, while we have opined we can waive our finding out that the deed re it, so long as Dade County also waive it, there would be no legal impediment for the City to do what the University of Miami's asking for. It shouldbe' done with the understanding that the reverter or the deed restriction does not expire as a matter of law or for that matter, as a matter of contract that we }; know of in 1991. Mr. Plummer: Well, if I show you a contract that shows the reverter of 1991, :1 does that not take precedent? Mr. Fernandez: `Yes, if I see something in writing.... 5s Mr. Plummer: All right, I'll get, it, I've got a copy of it because it's all —! spelled out in there. Madam City Clerk, can you get a copy of that quicker? Mayor Suarez: Contract between whom and whom? Mr. Plummer: It's a contract between the City of Miami and IOF. I mean, it's µ- ! all spelled out in there. The provisions relating to'the maintaining -of the, s,! building, the "reverter clause in 1991. It's ail`'in there. <It ceases 'if 'the reverter is not exercised by 1991, it ceases -to exist. Mayor Suarez: No. r Mr. Plummer.- That was clear in that contract. ` All Mayor Suarez: We'll have to track down the wording. In the meantime, Mr. t. Speyer, I think maybe you want to say something? Dr. Fernandez, 'did you want >yj, to make any statement at all? We've left you out of the'proceedingnhere; certainly not intentionally, irY i Dr. Joseph Fernandez: No, I just wondered if you had any questions` m. terms. f of 'what Me plan to do if, in fact, the Commission takes that action? —! Mr. Plumimerr" Doctor, the' only question I have of you and that's a' question f_ proffered to me yesterday by Dr. Walton Smith. You know, that's.his baby'and „V that 'i"a " h'3s° love and the' mom'`is not well but he did take the time to His . inquiry yesterday is;' what will be°= done' with the' exhibits that'r arm these ti t =presently"thiat phew=you do 6ui"renovation to -make it into a school, w._A .__ — happen to.thoso exhibits? He feels that, first and foremost, that be doesa!t sf 9 want =#hem.=to be thrown into the. trash pile. Second of'all,:hekitts axpriess.b's �k z —i that '= tfiere is '' a poasibie sale -of` those to' so�pe other countries wltich� outiiried !`or°'me. ; But,- . I think most-`imp9rtant, that{ his" beartrand .;- h making ithose -exhibits. "=He doeaa't" want 'them to be ;thrown in tfie` tYat�h� Piie _ b Y jj Dr., Jon ,.Fa�daad+ez: _ you would have ,my guaraatae that would nQt` �ba ..the +apie� ,„f; ,f Y cant `te9'l"Q Doff the :'t4p of mq ` heiid'. irbat'_ ws` would = do �►th ohs _ bs+�av�e�s wo hmYeA't"'ioketl; at 0, ling for him that before anything would Mr, Plummer: Well, can I hive the fee _ be done, he would .be consulted? Dr. Joe Fernandez: We would involve Dr. Smith... Mr. plumt►er: OX. Dr. Joe Fernandez: You have that commitment. Mr. Plummert All right. Mr. Fernandez: Mr. Mayor, also for your information and so that the record is - this deed restriction comes in the chain of title. clear, you should know that This property was deeded to the City of Miami by Metropolitan Dade County with an identical deed restriction that we've then passed on to the Oceanographic Foundation. The parties here in front of you... Mayor Suarez: We might not be in a position to waive it at any time. Mr. Fernandez: Well, the thing is that the parties are aware that they must also obtain or that whatever they obtain from you, if you're,in fact, so inclined to give them a release of this. deed restriction, is conditioned upon the Metropolitan Dade.County also giving it because otherwise we're really not at liberty to release what we cannot... Mayor Suarez: I am sure that we'll have to cross all.the is and dot all the mean, we can't do anything here that can... Mr. Plummer: That would be, of course, their contention... Mayor..,Suarez:. Sure. aY Mr. glummer: ....to get such relief also from the County but I think that we. F are fully within .our rights to waive that contract as. it exists. Mr. Cardenas: Right. That's correct, x Mayor Suarez:, Yes, we definitely can. waive that, reverter "clause, but that:... ' 9. _ -. ld, it expire �. wasn the:-:other..uestion he raised. The other question was, wou of it's -own in 19911 Mr. Plummer: I. hope somebody's still looking.for,that.Contrect Madam Clerk? Let me, if I may, in the:good sense,, disagree with: my colleague, Commissioner. Dawkins, ;in his presentation by. this virtue. The University .. ,excuse, me, ' e� Miami -Dade -Junior :College _ ,is acquiring property from, the City .of .Miami and that was the reason. . money.. The -University -,of.. for my insistence"for theMiami is not:btxying this land from the City of -Miami, whather-you agree or disagree, in 1971, when the then present City Commission gave..them the, property, what, in effect, is, -being : sold ant to .call „it a sa if you wle„ is .removing the reverter clause. I. would: agree .with you, Commissioner. Dawkins, ,if we., a114sed ,i,t. - without.. anyexisting giving of that property, I would,-agree..with a►ou and ;I would be just as hard nosed, _as. .you are about that'. situation. I wouldn'-t` settle for ,a penny. less than what the,school board is paying, But,,, in this We t particular; case, I see a distinct difference between selling that property on . 20th-;Street to the Dade Junior and selling this lease provision to the University of Miami. 1' Mr. Cardenas: Just want to make one... Mr,-.Mayor,let me sa' one thing. Mr. Dawkins: Y , 4 Mayor Sua azF ; GommiasLoner Davrkins. $, x ._ Mr. Dawkins:, : ,�lnd hQt that I; plan .to do anything about it because Z'1A r►at going. -to get that .nvolvid is it, but I understood.J.L.,;Flumwer to aa�►,= and f ,' �.'m ip :errQrre 'fat} , correax; m9r _<that, ,_th4 :to ma;ntat, this l�A ,fit;, H;Y. state snd , opernto it and have the museum, iti 'a,-first...class atata,#ayY� z spa "t s�oY doe :that and, .tho are , 1psimg .►a �* tha ave';ac0t �onraet�� Th.ieoFe► to l�►r,as �+WtQma!!�' — p+ ck to n �i,ty 4ag Miami:; f you wat�te�_ �P 8c� hup � €��1�t. ,�f�2�F � � ,��PLL�'�i� +{ kr a2,ji. M,'� Lug&& ,{ 4 f 2 L -- T. r' 77 'i Mr. Plummer! I understand that. Mayor Suartzi One quick question since I know that Commissioner Dawkins has i asked about the possibility of scholarships to other institutions and the Vice Mayor has asked about the possibility of cash in lieu of scholarships or something. Has that been discussed at all or is that totally ruled out by the University as... Mayor, the first discussion did" center Mr. Plummer: It was discussed, Mr. around hard cash. Dr. Foote explained that that would create a problem for the University. I£ they were to offer cash, it would be a very, very low figure; that was discussed. The we theked about this new University of Miwhich ami alternative tbeegiving were soft dollars which, in effect, the scholarships rather than hard cash. Mayor Suarez: I presume that they estimate that the equivalent in actual cash of scholarships is never quite the same as the cost of the... Mr. Plummer: It would have been, Mr. Mayor, we did... t particular student multiplied by the Mayor Suarez: tuition for the number of students. Mr. Plummer: We broached the subject and it was under two hundred and fifty thousand, if they had to come up with the hard cash. _ _ Mr. Cardenas: I wanted to leave with this thought in mind. Our presentation, t _ Mr. Mayor, members of the Commission. I thought the heart of this deal and r sometimes when we get discussion of the specifics, we may go off on a tangent, n. but I thought at the heart of this deal was the following rationale, that years ago, it was determined in the public interest, or for the County to deed to the City and for the City to enter into an arrangement with the foundation to provide these services for the benefit of the public,. these academic _ services. Those- services have been provided at a cost in excess of: $10,000,000. You have a foundation that cannot continue to absorb those costs n and therefore has turned into another public sector body,. the Dade., County t- _ School Board and it has an ongoing viable program that it wishes to implement for the benefit of hundreds of kids in the City of Miami.who attend our public x- schools. They have entered into a marriage that makes sense financially for .; the Dade County School Board. They. intend tomake a meaningful impact,,to�our kids who are attending :our public schools,, they, have ,entered Anto,:a relationship, with the university .of Miami where there is -,a partial refunding of -a substantial investment made.. by the University: or. by a foundation above and beyond what it's recouping and in the process of waiving a reverter clause whilestill:maintaining this in the public sector benefit. The City of Miami is going to be able to give 120 half scholarships to needy students. Now, I think in the context of this thing,, the major quotient or common denominator, being ,the benefit to the community,_I think that this is an ideal formula and, you know; we can get off into the tangents as to why's or wherefore',s but.I would much ""rather see frankly, a facility that we are all proud of, go into the hands, or continue in academic hands for the benefit of the kids 'in our community, then think into other possibilities that,may not make sense. The University, or the Foundation is not being made whole here, the City is ; .gaining 120 scholarships through a finely. negotiated process, and,::we..can maintain the integrity of thisscholarship process, however this Commission ` directs:. a` Mr. ,De Yurre::Mr. Mayor, if I may ask a few questions. ' Mayor. Suarez: Mr. Vice Mayor, We have to get to Mr. Speyer at some point r Mr. '.De >Yurree Yeas. I would ->.like, to know, : first of.<all, vrhat isL the total .amount ithgt the . School Boerd , is . going to :pay Dr. Foote. 43,050,000 - De. Yurre.i �K,,�,what•• _is that mopeY . going to ba used for? - pr„ _ oate::N Abssvt, $ OO,OpQ of :it wi,ll,Ybe used to �r%$PAy, the dp1tic i $ O ,Df O< opprox ma ly_..:w 11 :.ta+� requi, ed fir:- ciQ t Psta rpF y is + ' 3,'{� r -,°OA,�00 ::will.; go-$at4 the :eriQv►ment off:: the :xnteaslI��Q$zA`F'`w . ign and it w l,i ;be =used, tor, t#e,- purposes pf fileoramzi�'`i ..tt y7 vt i - s _ Y t10 . - � _.✓_. a+nrr,+FrY�'!'.+FC'rir,5w>-e. zn, wx,r#bRfiX basically teaching and research concerning the oceans of the world and it will be operated in close conjunction with the Marine Sciences School, as it was originally envisioned. Mr. De Yurre: OK, now what is the cost of one year's worth of tuition? Dr. Foote: Wellf it is a bargain. it's $11,800 plus dollars this year. The $951,000 that was mentioned as the value of these scholarships. It is a calculation of that tuition multiplied out over ten years times the number of scholarships with a 7 percent inflation factor. Mr. be Yurre: OK, who are we targeting to receive these scholarships? Dr. Foote: well, so far the discussions, the people who would receive the scholarships are students from the City of Miami who are admissible... Mrs. Kennedy: Excuse me, not the black and Hispanic kids, because not interested in marine biology, with all due respect. Dr. Foote: Well, I am just trying to answer his question, Commissioner. Mr. De Yurre: I'm looking at the financial aspect of this right now. Dr. Foote- Children from the City of Miami who are admissible under the normal university admission standards who express an interest in marine science. Now, as far -as the university is concerned, if the Commission wishes to do that differently, that's OK with us, but that's for the various reasons that I hope are fairly apparent, was where we were in our discussions of the last two or three weeks. Mr. Plummer: I think, excuse me, one of the discussions that was evolving was the fact that the School Board was going to be using that facility for marine science and hopefully the greatest number of those scholarships would be going to the kids who came out of that academy.It made sense. Mr. De Yurre: Now, let me continue this train of thought here. The children that you,are going -to be looking at as candidates for these,scholarships,.is the factor of their' financial status going to play at all'into-this? Dr. Foote: I personally think it should, but we did not get into the detail of exactly, how we- determine it. We have a way. of taking f inancial 'need, ..'into , consideration at the University and I am sure they do at.the school systems -so that is something that the professionals would just work out: Mr. Fernandez: If you follow the recommendation of Commissioner Plummer, which is to use•the model that Ms.: McAllily requested, or proposed to you, it would be under the college assistance program which has no overhead. Every dollar into scholarships comes out again in scholarships, but there is a need assessment that's done, so every student doesn't necessarily need the same amount of dollars. :. Mr. Plummer: They would do the screening. Mr. De Yurre: My concern is that if I am talking about giving scholarships, I. want it to go to children that would not be able to study because they don't have -the dollars to go to school. Mr. Plummer:. Exactly. r _ Mrs. Kennedy: That's the whole purpose. Mr. <De -Yurre:. OK;`: now,,.;,by the same% token,if you are talking ab%ut�K`#�a1f schalarRhip, I bet you that well >into -.the::90.::perceat,, of the` children -Edon! r 1 'p - hSVOL>the ,.$5;000 to go;�t*'achool: They could ego to-FIU - Nn 'Foot6r Perhaps - I could � aay. something about that .f and itho'Xiith#► saperintendent says he has something else. Eighty percent f the,:stUleEit at uF {, the Unive`sity of Miami,' Approximately$ are on scholarship right now..' We v� many' aaoy` sources ;of, schola ship "mo- y � State'A'oourdes,``� �-aderal aauna.a, ,oar pw». endoents, or own ,scholarship money, Typically what we : sio wxh atadpt �� 4`r _ Kho is rnasdy is do`:everything?4it� in power -;to `detorm no v. it tha'.�ne�d Nz g Oacainulq'tQ. mega it,*. With -'a hal racholarahip `what toe bieIieve} yams _ Y - }yb k W���� 1+ (a _ V even for the neediest student, one way or another we can make it possible for that student to go to the university. They pick up $1,100 or thereabouts in tuition voucher from the State of Florida, that's another $1,000. Where are Federal entitlement programs, Federal scholarship programs, PFL grants and so _ forth that we package and snake available and then we have our own money, so we would anticipate that nobody who needs the money to go to the University with this kind of program would be turned down and by making them half scholarships, we can double the number of students that would be benefited instead of making them whole scholarships and not taking advantage of the —' leverage money of the kind that I've described. Mr. Plummer: For your information, we did talk originally about full scholarships, but when Doctor brought the fact that there were other Federal funds available, it made more scholarships available to more children. That Is when we went to the half scholarship provision rather than the full. Mr. Dawkins: If you were to go to Miami Dade, and I hate to do this, but I have to, Colonel Wolfson, there is a Wolfson Foundation that matches every dollar for scholarship that you put in there, so it is not nothing new for the University of Miami. They do it at FIU, they do at Barry, they do it at every college that has to do it, because the Federal government makes money available for scholarships, so this is nothing unique to the University of Miami, but Dr. Foote, did you are say that you are going to put $2,500,000 in a foundation? Dr. Foote: The net proceeds would go into the endowment of the International Oceanographic Foundation. Mr. Dawkins: And that's two point five? Dr. Foote: Approximately. Mr.` Dawkins: See, and the only way I could vote for this is that $1,000,000 of that two point five come to the City of Miami and the City of Miami establish a scholarship fund and let the interest from that fund be parceled out. by Miami Dade or Dr. Fernandez, CAP, I don't care by whom, but I just don't think, I cannot vote for Dr. Foote to tell me that he -is going to put two point five into his foundation and I'm not creating a foundation of our own. Dr. Foote: -`Well, the foundation is the entity that owns the property -and the foundation has its own purposes .which may not be exactly the.purposes`of your institution or my other institution, but is the purposes of that foundation;_ which are marine science, teaching and scholarship. a Mr. De Yurre:` But,you have to look at the purposes of the City of Miami also: Dr. Foote: Oh, I understand. Mr. De Yurre: From what you are proposing, you. think 'about it, you are proposing a package that really leaves the City out of it totally. Think about it, think about it, it leaves us out. Mr. Plummer: Whoa, whoa. Mr. 11 De Yurre: The School Board decides. You guys put the money into what you want., we get to see from a distance what's happening, but let's face It, we r are not Involved in the process. We do not have any, input other' thin'voting yesor-no rightnowt` Dr. Foote: Well,`I'think'the'thinking has-been .that the City does get ,a very substantial benefit` from this transaction '`w1f ch" is: 'the ; onewe've z described;,. Cotnmissioner.`Plummer and I talked about. T °pave to bssy .p Commissioner Dawkins `with all: due respect sir;' while I'yaderstand what you are 'saying about taking $i"600,000, and setting "it aside, we 'mouid not."be in _a _ position to : cio� `that, " that" 'would break the' deal and the reason is that I represent not., t;. Dawkins: then" let the 1'and reve'rt'back to -us` Dr.` 'Y�oot'e Dr. j Foote: Weld. ! I'm' ,just saying` wat our position, is. ` �f we 2iad to do t wauldn t :wo rk for `us, "'we` would` not Ua able to` do it 'find ;the reason,,,,.,we ire 1° f. { 9'91aq t0' 0 V able to make the scholarship offer we are, is because 1 represent two institutions and for the next decade, IOF (International Oceanographic - Foundation) and the University of Miami are going to have to do what they have to do in order to snake these scholarships available, but some may come from the University of Miami funds, some may come from IOF funds, it may be a combination and it is the flexibility that we require with our own monies to make these available. Now, I agree, they are not scholarships at Miami Dade and if that is an issue of importance to the Commission, then i can understand that, but they are scholarships with University funds, University of Miami funds and IOF funds for the children of the City of Miami. Mr. Dawkins: Dr. Foote, I agree with you, I hear what you are saying, but let me tell you how I see the bottom line, OK? The bottom line is the University of Miami is operating a museum at a loss. The University of Miami has to get out from under this loss. Therefore, in order to get out with a profit, OK, because we are losing money, then the University of Miami wants to let the School Board come into the property, which is fine, but now, if you tell me that you are going to make money and you can't take $1,000,000 from what you are making to keep from continuing to lose money, then I, you know, I have to say, well fine, then we have to exercise whatever authority you know, is left to us, to confiscate the property, for the lack of a better word, or foreclose on it, or go back to the reverter, because you are not maintaining it according to the contract and just let the School Board have the land and put the school on it, and then... that's all. Mr. Cardenas: Let me, if I can, answer quickly that comment, because I think that may enlighten the situation a little bit. The way this thing works in academia as you know, is years ago a university makes a commitment for an industry that brings millions of dollars to this community, the Oceanographic Institute. That commitment presents a budget. You go out there and you try to make do and you know and I know, because we are both involved in, the college activities, how difficult it is to be able to garner that budget., The University garners that budget and it is given the mandate to educate thousands of kids through this Oceanographic Institute. All of a sudden it enters into a program and in good faith everybody thinks is .going to be operationally functional. Instead of becoming operationally fv-,ctional, this program loses in excess of $10,000,000. All of a sudden that whole program is in a situation, in a perilous situation affecting not just.the university but this community, the people involved in that industry and everything else. In other to resolve .this situation which cannot continue because if it does, it _ cannot continue to give the program the academic program that was created. It comes up with a solution and that solution, there isn't any profit here, $3,800,000 will restore $2,500,000 to a deficit of $10,000,000 or more, that's all it's doing, to permit something which is in serious operational financial straits to continue operating and it's up before you to tell you this is what it is and we are all together and we are providing a public service and I sure wish Joe Fernandez had explained a little bit more what it is they intend to do, because what you are doing is, you are passing a torch of momething that is academically good, not just for the student body, for economically good for this whole community, from one academic source to another academic source and in passing that torch, you are ending up with 120 scholarships and that is what we are trying to tell you, these $2,500,000 are not net net proceeds that are going into the pocket of the University of Miami for its general good. These are $2,500,000 begin restored to a deficit of in excess of $10,000,000 to a foundation, the express purpose of which is very much in peril at this point. Mr. Dawkins: Counselor, I agree, and I have to tell you and Dr. Foote that U M is to.be commended for what it's done and the community is to be condemned ' for not supporting such a viable educational thing, because we do `need the: museum for our youth and for the people,_, and for visitorsi but;for: some, reason, this community has.not.supported it and that's why we got a loss on it°=and if we haven't supported it in the pP past', Dr. Foote, I agree with you,. we going to -support .it in the future, so you can't continue to lose,money, so agree with ever thin y g you .said, but just .like I said, I,just cannot vote for It under those conditions, Al,,that's all, that's me. Mayor Suarez: Why ,d_on'twe ;hear.from Mr. ,S.Peygr:; t9telly d pective.-onallof.is and thwecpersan.do is hear from him, " :t Mr. Srik :Speyer: ;L'm ,u ik> .SpeYQr, 41:4 Dxoco, ; Coral .Gabloo. � ve be intip: tely it►voiveCwith this Planet Ocean thing raod }as director , f the Muses: t s rY 'x of Science and in the Museum of Science field. Commissioner Dawkins mentioned the fact that the value of the land exceeds that which it is intended to be used for. I agree 100 percent. A school for a few hundred children should not be on 11 acres of prime land that will attract tourists and hundreds of thousands of kids in the field of informal science education. Let me give you a couple of facts real quick. The attendance of the Charlotte Museum of Science is 350.000 a year, the Ontario Science Center is 1,000,000 people a year and St. Paul it is $74,000 people a year. Miami can have a science museum on that site that is that popular and that successful. I've been told twice today that that is not possible. I'm not trying to tell presidents or directors of school boards how to run their business, I wish they wouldn't tell me that that cannot succeed as a science museum. It can, I know, I've done it before The Museum of Science was going broke. They couldn't meet... Mayor Suarez: Well, but are you willing to invest some money to keep it going as a facility of that sort? Mr. Speyer: Of course, you have to invest some money, but not $10,000,000. Mayor Suarez: No, no, you, or anyone that you respond to. Mr. Speyer: I represent someone who is very interested in doing so, as a matter of fact. Mayor Suarez: Where's the beef, where's the money? - Mr. Speyer: We were turned down. We have made an offer to the University of Miami for $3,800,000 for the site, we were turned down, said no, they had a deal with the School Board. I represent a company called Dynamation, when they. heard it was for sale for $3,800,000 as a museum, they said, you're kidding. We could continue running it as a museum profitably and the City of Miami could make a profit directly, because from there you would of course get tourism. Mayor Suarez: You are saying the people that you are familiar with, would pay $3,800,000 for a facility to keep it running as_a museum? Mr. Speyer: Yes, I was authorized to say that by my corporation. Mr. Plummer: Animation is the name is the name of the company? Mr. Speyer: Dynamation. Mr. Plummer: Is that a profit making? Mr. Speyer: Yes, it is. Mr. Plummer: Oh.. Mr. Speyer: Well, we:have a foundation also. We Ms. Hirai: Commissioner Plummer, your mike is not on,. air. Mr. Speyer: We have a foundation also that could... scientific educational foundation, but.:. Mr. Plummer Yes, but it -is a profit.making organization. _t Mr. Speyer: : Mr. Plummer Well, you are asking us to allow, or to sponsor. your."group taking- over; this property..... Mr: Speyer: No, no. 4, Mr P1ummers .: ,°t4-make a profit: Mr. , Sp.eyer No; I didAl , ask. that.. T:,aw just.:presentIng an,vsiternat 4.0.3t - the`;plan'-that'si',40te ,today and 1` wan asked b the,:; Mr, Plummer: I assume that is what' you prof$esrgd Q the Vaive�csi y, t tOrA it ovex tQ you fqr.tha SS,SQO,U00.an�l then you maku.J pro it oh it.' r�T� s. x N_ dr — i, ^y. 77 W. Mr. Speyert Or we could lease it from the City of Miami and the City of Miami could make the profit. Mr. bawkinst We make a profit out of his property; you're right. Mr. Spayert Yea, exactly. Mr. Dawkins: Make a profit out of his property. Mr. Plummer: He didn't say that. Mr. Speyer: It doesn't matter to whom... I just know that it can work as a _ science museum. The City of Miami is closing down one of its major tourist attractions, potential tourist attractions when Central Florida is opening up new ones. There is 11 acres of land that is situated in a perfect location as a tourist attraction and to turn it over as a school for a few hundred kids is _ a shame, is a real loss of a perfectly good piece of property. That property, by the way, to use it as a marine science school is kind of silly, it has no access to water, it has to access to dockage, it has no access to cruise ships... INAUDIBLE STATEMENT. _ Mr. Speyer: No, it has no access to water, none. No, the property right behind it belongs to... Mayor Suarez: It's not right next to the water, but it is awfully close. Mr. Speyer: It's close, but the point is you can't have... Mayor Suarez: In fact it is close to water in almost all sides. Mr. Odio: It's right on the water. Mr. Speyer: It is close to the water. They can have a view of the water and whenc.they:.bus'`them out there, they will be busing them past the water. Mr. Odio: _It's got right water access. Mayor�Suarez: It's got -access? Mr. Speyer: No,.it doesn't have... Mr. Odio: It can go by water. Mr. Speyer: Where? Mr. Odiot Through the Marine Stadium. "Mr. Speyer: That property belongs to the City and;it is an access. Mr. Odio: It is aright -of -way, it's a public right-of-way. .r Mr. Speyert. ItIs, a right-of-way used .for emergency vehicles. Mr. Odiov. And, it can be -used for any... Mr. Speyer: - When I:=was.,working.;;for. the, foundation we.,,were told absolutely ' not. It's a different opinion. Ot1� can. Mr. Odio. Yea, `you can, yea, y �* Mr: i Speyers O1C, it 4s a., different. opinion. Anyway, my point is.; - there is an ar�z� alternative use for this thing and the City of .Miami would benefit not Daly dire ly,t °but. `ihdirectly,, ' be. cause _tourism; ,playa :aa :: i�po t°ant part 4 , uisitatehiprof :the ;SishceMuseum, Whea.`;I was ,the;M�ta um QiSGienca t�Q,4 p rce L� of :our: attaA once :were. <tQvrietaa� There is ` nQ:,xtQaaa�► o a�i�ew;e ` n y }thafft a;;m�►,jor,,. nstitut3on .44tt <;_tbereaF,would...not Goneinue:.. t�lk ,i,.�r Y r' = s {�'} t. r `h � f � �': ♦ r F ', �L .. TI'Yr�' yt Jy'r,N .Vu "� , '• � }t s. � .:rs - l ;. ;2,/.„ r r + � %fy }„2 «'r nt k,¢S>�F '' �' y ' Mayor Suarestt Let me ask Dr. Foote, was there an offer of $3,800,000 made for this facility by &ftYone that looked like they had $3,800,000, whether for profit, or not for profit, or whatever? Dr. Foote: Mr. Speyer is :ay friend... Mayor Suarez: This sounds like a preamble to a knockdown, here. Dr. Foote: No, no, and after we made arrangement with the School ool o t # it was reported to me that he, in behalf of his company in a p pay that money. As he said, that was reported to me, Now, we didn't go further with that, because we had a deal with the School Board. And whether that would have worked out or not, I don't know, but we had an arrangement with the School Board at the time he came by. The other problem with the... Mayor Suarez: You never got to the point with him of checking out financial statements or ability to make that payment, or anything like that. i Dr. Foote: No sir, no, we didn't go that far. We had a contract subject to your approval. Mr. Plummer: Well, speaking for one, it's a matter of giving it to the School System of Dade County, or a profit making organization, there is no question in my mind which way I'd vote. Mrs. Kennedy: Yes. Mayor Suarez: I was just looking at the comparative aspects of the worth of this... Mr. 'Speyer: I'm sorry, since when does the school, a magnet school need` 11 acres of prime tourist land and... Mr. Dawkins: But see you... what we need with it is the possibility of growth, OK? Mr: Speyer: But... Mr. Dawkins: Wait now, you asked me, let me tell you, OK? We are starting with something -in its infancy, OK? You got two educational institutions working collectively, it can't help but grow and as it grows, we will need more' of whatever, it is we are offering, so what we need with -the "eleven acres is to provide for growth. Mr.'Speyer: I certainly agree with that. It would bean ideal situation to have growth in a magnet school, but to locate it in a 'site that is`so`perfect for a science education institution that draws millions of people' including tourists, seems to me a waste of good piece of 11 and one-half acres. Mr. Dawkins: It would be if we were not doing what you said,'a magnet -school; OK? Now what is the magnet school? The magnet school is to draw individuals from all over the County into something that they can grow in and help in. Now, there are individuals who will come from Hialeah, there are individuals who will come from Liberty City, Little Havana, and they all will be drawn to that school, because they got one common interest and that's marine science and that's the idea of the, magnet school' and that' a why we would need t, 3.a myopinion,- if I were to be in their two positions, I would, -want ':it inr position where it- would -draw individuals who are interested:4in -marine-science L:t and: -it" has ,to' be something that they don't get some place else. Mayor -Suarez:, :There is definitely -a problem with the issue off, how many City of Miami :residents would be interested in taking advantage of them scholarships and soon: I`think, Vice Mayor, you had soma modification initial plan that might work with.,.. Mr:`- De Yurre =You know, I feel comfortable and I could-go-41on�g�w�kh situation; where ia my, concern was half • the scholarship, - signiflc� �i antmount'vof tmoney. for -children 'that are in 'financial with that, for` the.,I Amilies..aad the children to .come up with that bind >y, ', k t money,', .but ° if the Uaivers ty- of=:Miami, which I think they are.` in a;' pos do, ..`will guarantee that the other 'half that i:s needed for:; thatµi }t �sch�aharahip wie-made ups somehcw �'through' grants o lama ever y x Yllo - a University of Miami, whatever programs they have available, in other cords, It that child will not fail to go to get that scholarship because they don't have the dollars to supplement it. Mayor Suaree: Let fie ask Dr. Foot about that. I know that some institutions are at a point, I know Harvard is at that point, that they basically will accept, admit a student and if the student is admitted based on an objective analysis of financial need, it will guarantee for every student that is admitted, sufficient financial help, either scholarships or loans, typically half and half. Is the University of Miami getting to that point too, with its Incredible endowments so that it would satisfy the Vice Mayor's concern that you Would be able to guarantee the other half of the scholarship or financial aid to this student that simply doesn't have even one penny towards that other half? Dr. Foote: Yes, let me speak to the two points. Harvard has an endowment of four billion dollars. Mr. Plummer: Huh! Dr. Foote: We don't have quite that much money, so we... Mr. Dawkins: Not near that much, Dr. Foote? Dr. Foote: Not quite that much, right. Mayon Suarez: Although your recent campaign was a little bit over $400,000,000, wasn't it? Dr. Foote: $467,000,000 as of last week, but that is not all for scholarships. What I can assure the Commission and we've just had a private conversation, what I can assure the Commission is that if you approve this, with'the half scholarship proposal that we've discussed and the other funds that I've described earlier, PSL grants, entitlements from the State of Florida, the. normal way we meet need, loans and so forth, that no child from A. the City of Miami will fail to attend this program for reasons of Its expense. Now, those,, funds won't all come to the University of Miami, but we will meet the financial needs of these children if you approve this. Mr. De Yurre: OK Mayor Suarez: What about your other part of your question about the... s Mr. Plummer: Let me ask one question, because Rosario brought up -a point when I -sat down with you. I don't know that it is absolutely correct, but•I guess maybe there,is considerationneed to be given and that is in the area that the Latins and the blacks would not participate in the oceanographic kind of program. Dr. Fernandez: That's not correct. This school started as an inner-city school marine project. Mr. Plummer: Joe, you are missing my point. I was just trying .to;make`a point,, Dr.,;Fernanders- No, but what I am trying to say is,, we are turning., that IM attitude around. Mostof the students... the. program -is in place right i-noii, .'. 3>. it's Just not, housed there. Most --of the, -students. in there ..are Anit oritq „ students, black andr'Hispanic. Mr. Plummer: Now let me get to my point-.- Zr., Fern andezi jQK,*-'go ahead. 4 ? Mr. Plummer: Dr Foote, is it ` within` the purview- of the University o#iaa�i` thAi-If for" a�saiaple� it were to come 'up in one fgIvan year that' theta rwe a sot' fifteen applications;^h{that in. feet.` that half scbalarship couldr be ue€ed �4 same 6thi1, school other than oceanographic? 2 � Mrs. Keanedy: t1m hum o en it. yp.E� r P {. r h 1vx! =.i (aq�at' $uar�az. ilea, -that "was gofng to .be the secaad partc►f..,,, 104 A y` l Mr. Plummert I mean, it is the same number of dollars. Dr. Footet Absolutely, we could do that. Mr. Plummer, OK. Mayor Suarez: I think with those modifications and the last comment by Mr. Speyer, we may be in a position to vote on this Mr. Speyer: I beg you to reconsider this. I see a trend here, the subject of scholarships seems to be more popular than the subject of science education for the general public. I beg you to consider this as a possible location for an institution that is going to serve an informal science, as informal f- science education for all the kids of Dade County, hundreds of thousands every year, not a few hundred. Sometimes science museums is the only place that kids get science. 3 Mayor Suarez: You know of course, Mr. Speyer, that we are very interested in doing, placing science museums, particularly those related to ocean studies in f or near the waterfront properties that we have, specifically the FEC and Bagfront Park properties immediately to the north of Bayside, that It precisely the latest design from the- City, so we are not foreclosing that, maybe because they are Just in'a remote area right now, less accessible than downtown, which is not getting enough people, but we'd love to implement that - and if you got somebody that is willing to pay that kind of money, you may<be r abidder coming up in some of our RFP's that right now, we don`t nave the money to even pull out the RFP's, unfortunately, but... - Mr. Speyer: But you see, it's there already, it doesn't cost the City a nickel. It's, the museum... - Mayor Suarez: We've got $23,000,OOO worth of land over at the FEC property, after many, many years of condemnation. We'd love to have something like you are proposing. That is`exactly the master plan that we have got for it and we - haven't had any takers, so I don't, you know, I am not, I am trying to encourage_you'to talk to the'City about that possibility for, you�know;'if'it -: ia`a`'moderately sized -facility that does attract the public and'.does-educate the-general`pubiic is to marine science. Mr.` Speyer: But the building ` is already- there. It exist, eleven acres of land. Mayor Suarez: Well, but this building they intend to use for other educational purposes, very related, public in nature, almost :or we are: trying to make it:more and - more- public,. with these scholarships, so I don't see that we -lose anywhere. Mr. Speyer: Very well, thank you. Mr. De Yurre: The last;:: point Mr. Mayor, you know somehow, ` I `think :.that' :we want to maintain ourselves 4n the process, the City of Miami,', as far as applicants, making applicants available to the program for consideration by the -Selection Committee and also being in a position to confirm any applicant t that gets approved for scholarship, that's you know, they come through us,. " that we-be°a part, and we'want-to be a part of this process and we believe IA education and we want to have some input as far as this.program isconcerned.k= It's going'to be-sn ongoing program for ten years and maybe we can talk UM and the School Board into continuing after that down '.the road, but certainly"I feel that'=we should have some input, and I would like to have thax alsok_ inserted in there that we have to confirm any applicants that comic before tko tr nommi"ttea ,and be Ini.a position >'also° to- recommend for corisideeati.ori ads l"iCat} s .that we may have our seIva $pZ Mr. ': Cardehass _ .� x ;think+' what r;wei discussed with °the superintendent wa1� t}?t fo,l"lotiving ,and. hopefully will be acceptable to you, but they sgould ,have of such students,.,. they would receive the..applicant that you _would recomme t , 'F` , ¢ r, that' would:have''the orQatiization that makes ths aPPropri"ate spraet�,tug lour >za finasaial, stew! ::and acadpmc, abil,ity,to come.up with.a lift of:lnaiataxbt'>�"' o! nalieta would be provide to YOU ain, .yevi. all figure ,out at �►�lxss VA tt . to Q : in" arm of ' w �o, if that's how: you: Van t to o it:: :`way °you weule it stirocu�red, as: long as" 'two things :are met, you know +e+I�w`,R":, � 9t^�(R.r�r Ytf , n sss tz treed, or academic ability and economic need and however you want to handle the... Mayor Suarez: And that they live in the City of Miami. Mr. Castaneda: And that they live within the City of Miami, yes, and however you want to handle it mechanically, we can work on it with staff to your satisfaction. Mr. Plummer: Well, what I had talked to Dr. Foote about Was the possibility of this Commission surrendering names to that cap program. Other names could 4 be surrendered as long as they lived in the City of Miami and that this Commission them would be handed a list of all of those who meet both requirements and this Commission would make the determination of the first four years, the 15 that went, we even went to the point of saying that each -- Commissioner could appoint three each year from that list, but I think it is very important that that list is the one that is used so that it can't be said that we are just giving them away to anyone that we want for political purposes. They have to be determined eligible and need. Mr. Dawkins: I have a problem with that in that if we are going to charge CAP with i.he responsibility of identifying students, then I think in all probability, CAP should be the one to make the judgement, because CAP is going to be working with a list of individuals who they are going to provide with assistance and when they send us 30 names for us to pick 15 out of, when the 15 that we don't chose come back, what is CAP supposed to do with them, put them at.the bottom of the list, leave them at the top of the list, or do what? I for one would just say that whatever names we want, we submit them to CAP and let CAP be .the screening committee and we out of the educational aspect of it. Mr. De Yurre: And they just bring the applicants they want to give the scholarship to, bring it to us for confirmation and that's it. Mr. Dawkins: Yes, right. Mr. Plummer: I'm.sorry, repeat that, please. Once the application process and.the.screening- process is completed and --they make the selection,, they are brought before,the Commission for.confirmation. Mayor,Suarez: It's very similar to the Congressional... Mr. De Yurre: It's just like Off -Street Parking. Mayor -Suarez: _ recommendation process for the Naval and Air Force Academy. They first have to deem them to be qualified and so on and then recommendations are made by the elected officials. I'll entertain a motion that reflects all of that. Mr. Plummer: I cnn accept that Based on all the amendments that are proffered and Dr.., Fernandez' assurance of the exhibits in checking ;with Dr. Smith,' Mr.- or M y ,:I will move the item before us, ,a ... Mr. De Yurre: Second. Mayor Suarez: It's been moved and seconded. Mr. Dawkins: Under discussion. Mayor Suarez: Commissioner Dawkins. f' �Ir. , Dawkins, I;,will be .,voting. against thet motion, ,,aat thatwm at3j{ '- praj et,c. L, it is : j vst� theta I : do not ; ieel. � that we should -.take the :" 4til 4 ti aml,'�s� lapd:t.snd ,Freate;;_scholarships,earmarked-,only,or,.th _ Upivers.it f b r q yr t F wa have,;students whp may' be desirous .of,; going some lack elselr' 6 Ph L z p r s r k� A6 S f a J The following its adoption: MOTION NO. 89-439 Commissioner A MOTION ACCEPTING A DONATION OF APPROXIMATELY $1,000,000 WORTH OF HALF -SCHOLARSHIPS TO THE UNIVERSITY OF MIAMI TO BE ALLOTTED TO THOSE STUDENTS NOMINATED BY THE CITY COMMISSION WHO ARE CITY OF MIAMI RESIDENTS AND WHO ARE DEEMED RLIGIBLE TO ATTEND THE UNIVERSITY BY THE SCHOOL BOARD AND THE UNIVERSITY. Upon being seconded by Commissioner De Yurre, the motion was passed and adopted by the following voter AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. _ commissioner Rosario Kennedy vice Mayor Victor De Yurre Mayor Xavier L. Suarez NOES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins ABSENT: None. COMMENTS MADE DURING ROLL CALL:. Mr. De Yurre: Yes, and also understanding and underlining that it can be for any other subject that they want to study, any other major. COMMENTS MADE AFTER ROLL CALL: Mayor Suarez:. Yes, and I appreciate hearing, Dr. Fernandez, that in fact the inner-city school kids are participating. Mr. Dawkins: Let me bring you up to date. Mayor Suarez: Commissioner Dawkins. Mr. Dawkins: That school was: started by Miller Dawkins, OK? Miller Dawkins went over to Merrill " Stevens and Merrill Stevens and Miller Dawkins went out and got some youths and we started teaching marine scienceright ,over .here at Merrill Stevens and then the School Board bought.; into it.and and::, when' we looked up a Mrs. .. Jack:Eads was ma de'director,and it has continued to grow, but Mr. Mayor, it started out with inner-city youths. f Mayor .Suarez: :That's magnificent. That sounds like it is a turnaround from what might otherwise be the impression and we appreciate hearing that. Mr. Plummer: For legal purposes, Mr. City Attorney... Mr. Fernandez; Yes. Mr. Plummer: What in effect my understanding is, is the City has accepted this proposal from the University of Miami in lieu of the elimination in total of the contract. Mr. Fernandez: Correct. Mayor Suarez: And we must also resolve to do it... ` Mr. Fernandez: Of the restrictions, it should be of... _ Mayor Suarez: ,.. releasing the deed restriction, as you just stated, xrtiu�� Commissioner Plummer, conditioned upon Metropolitan.Dade ;County lkal#�. _ releasing a deed restriction aPPlicable to . said. proparty, .' if that is n,�i�sl t, which you are now:.- telling:7,..us that it might" be and ePPaximately. whydoa't, as so stated, why don't you go .ahead andgove it °, '�,' once Agar? 6. Mr: Plummer; I'll so mono, _Mr. Mayor. Juxst , for. tha record, tbo p�Qvi, that ; I wss :spe.cif ically addressin,"g was "the otter `issue rsiB�issg to ti}� , �r`fla�,,� �aiataining cif ' a. mupoum,'- OK?` We did not' 0limiaatp just the r Yart+3r,j �� ' k y a � 55 .o _ to the next item. Mr. Castaneda: You may recall that some time back you approved $25,000 of left over community based organization money from the year before that, and the first $250000 will be allocated to Allapattah-Wynwood Development Corporation, the second $25,000 would be allocated to add... bK. Mr. Plum art Move Mayor Suarez: Moved Mr..Dawkins: Second. Mayor Suarez: Seconded, any discussion? Call the roll. The following .resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved its adoption: RESOLUTION No. 89-441 A RESOLUTION WITH ATTACHMENTS, AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE AN AMENDMENT TO THE 1988-1989 CONTRACT AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF MIAMI AND THE ALLAPATTAH BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY, INC. FOR ADDITIONAL ALLOCATION OF $25,000 .APPROVED BY MOTION, "! N0. 88-372 ON APRIL 28, 1988,,SAID MOTION:STATING THAT . THE CITY, MANAGER WAS DIRECTED TO ALLOCATED THE FIRST $25,000 FROM THE REMAINING CARRY OVER BALANCE OF' THIRTEENTH. (13TH) YEAR ,COMMUNITY. DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT FUNDS TO ALLAPATTAH BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT ; AUTHORITY, INC., ,.UPON THE CITY COMMISSION, RECEIVING AND APPROVING THE TOTAL BREAKDOWN OF THE PROPOSED PROGRAM, FOR. THE PURPOSE OF, CONTINUING TO IMPLEMENT NEIGHBORHOOD ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROGRAMS IN THE ALLAPATTAH BUSINESS COMMUNITY. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file.in the Office of.the City. Clerk.). P 6 d Upon being seconded by Commissioner Dawkins, the resolution was passe and adopted by,the.following vote: AYE_St Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Commissioner Rosario Kennedy Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins Vice Mayor Victor De Yurre ` Mayor Xavier L. Suarez a NOES: None. ;ss ABSENT None. _ F { •. .it f. 3. F t*F y� 3 � S. 4� t' :4 r<. ,.d '_t a-•.J.. - a, ���i�o k .r�4 4-'ate`` CYrii�ir.6i.i:Gi:iririliui►i�wi�i,r.� �{i.i1LL�.ii��i�:Y++,rY.iiii®Y��ii�rY�i.iiirf�YLw..raver.ai.i�YiiS-ii,crll3L�:3.:fiiirirYf.�IfGYI'.Yi , "� 31. pGRgEMtW WITH CHAInN CORPORATION - provide $1,500,000 in community Development Block Grant Float Fund for renovation of building and establishment Of a nonprofit vocational school it 7391 Ii,R Snd Avenue in 8di66n/tittle River Neighborhood. �iiYi�rlwr��iw.�►�iw.YLi•Y�W��Liiri.h7ri��iiYrir-------- - — — —%iiiirYa`Gii _ Mayon Suarez: Item 28, is it? Mr. Plummer: Who is Chaiken? Mayor Suarez: Chaiken? Mr. Castaneda: Mr. Chaiken, I believe in... Mr. Plummer: Who are they? Who is Chaiken? _ Mr. Richard Weiss: Phil Chaiken is here, he is a business man in the community, sir. Mr. Plummer: And what is he proposing to build there? Mr. Weiss: He owns and existing building, Commissioner Puramer, and... Mr. Plummer:' For what reason? Mr. 'Weiss: He currently owns it and it is empty. _ Mr. Plummer: Yes, I understand, but what is the building being used for and what is,itLpr6pos'ed to be used for? Mr. ;Weiss:' The 'building will be leased to the :-Little _'-River Community j Foundation, which is a nonprofit foundation to be used for a vocational school and community service building. Mr: Plummer: Is this a'prof it making organization? j2 Mr. Weiss: Chaiken is, Little River Community Foundation is._.. Mr. Plummer: Is he making a profit from the lease? Mr. Weiss: I believe the pry _►isions' of the `lease call for him just covering his `cost 'of carrying the"building:.: Mr. Plummer: I'm -not asking that. Let me ask it again. In his lease with the vocational school, is there any profit being made? 4,;, Mr.!Weiss::%.The answer is no, Mr. Plummer: OK. Mr.- Weise: My name is Richard... y Mr., Plummer:': Where -'is .': you have that kind of money,.:$1,500 000 inithe block Y grant fund? 4 Mr.. Castaneda: No,; no, ,this is a C.D.•",float, 'Commissioner, This the wobo ctr� ;that;' is sittiri in' the- fetter of credit' in Washington: Wa .afire getting else r ;,r fairlylow ri ht now, to tell you .the truth, after' this one.,_,Ws 'haveaada 6,,,,� _ .os$6,00000C, 500` 0Frpodom Tower,:D00 :for YMCA. I t , to ,�}s t 1 You Mr. Plummer : For the Freedom Tower. was callab"lo within 4$ hours, £ r{�,� „. � Nk f Mr: Casta:}eda: Thus hashq same► provision, "Mta. 'Kennssdyt Thls `i� the same, tWjj r' r"•LrFy,..h,,tx"s,5 4 xS i?; t- a '�a�^ l 4iK P!•f�.j ( sk .f.+ +haI^ "S. i Lt Mr. plunnrer: This is callable within 48 tnan'a company, financial resources and he hours, to come up with the money. Mr. Castaneda: Mr. Chaiken himself will provide the money, it is letter of credit hours and you have investigated this has the ability, if called within 48 not be the person that would have to that will have to provide the money. Mr. Weisaa We have put up a full letter of credit for $1,500,000, whi irrevocable letter of credit in the name of the City, which backs thi to in case that the City would need the money and they call the loan... Mr. Plummer: So this would be at a MAXIMUM of two years. Mr. Weiss: Yes, sir. Mr. Castaneda: That is correct and callable in case of need. Mr. Plummer: Do you recommend it? Mr. Castaneda: I'm recommending... Mr. Dawkins% I move Mr. Plummer% Second. Mr. Fernandez: The records have been made clear that this is passing subject to actual receipt of the letter of credit and having met all the other ng satisfied, that all State and Federal requirements and the City Attorney bei requirements. Mr. Dawkins:.- This is the moved the same way we move all other UDAG grants. Whatever you do for those, do for this one. INAUDIBLE BACKGROUND COMMENTS NOT ENTERED INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD.' Mr. Dawkins: Thank you. Mayor Suarez: Do we have a motion and a second? Any further discussion? Mr. Plummer: -Let me ask one question. Who, is operating the vocational school? Mr. Weiss: The vocational school will be actually owned by the Little River Community Foundation, -,.which' is,a foundation`of community leaders - including T: Fair,.Ringo Cayard, and other community people:- Mr. Plummer: An& that's a nonprofit. Mr. Weiss: That I8> a nonprofit. It will be run by a school operator,, who .is an experienced, they will enter into a contract with a school operator. His name,is:-Martin Noble-and_is a school operator in the area. r Mr.I Dawkins: Senator Meek is on that board also, isn't she, who is an M educator., . Mr. ;Weiss , I`believe she has agreed to serve on the board.. Mr. Dawkins: OK.. yay h Mayor Suareszs { Call the. roll. 1 4 N r t f F t T 1 k r.f M`M�aixsy 10 1- `. u �-{'S 7r c�4 i� r��e The following resolution was introduced by commissioner Dawkins, moved its adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 89-442 A RESOLUTION WITH ATTACHMENTS, AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE AN AGREEMENT IN SUBSTANTIALLY THE ATTACHED FORM BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE CHAIKEN CORPORATION FOR THE PROVISION OF UP TO $1,500,000 IN COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT FLOAT FUNDS, IN THE FORM OF A LOAN FOR A TWO (2) YEAR PERIOD AT TWO PERCENT (2%), FOR THE RENOVATION OF A BUILDING AND THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A NONPROFIT VOCATIONAL SCHOOL LOCATED AT 7321 NORTHEAST 2ND AVENUE* MIAMI, FLORIDA, IN THE EDISON/LITTLE RIVER NEIGHBORHOOD, WITH A FLOAT LOAN FEE TO BE PAID BY SAID FIRM AS SET BY THE CITY MANAGER. _ (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote: AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Commissioner Rosario Kennedy Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins Vice Mayor Victor De Yurre Mayor Xavier L. Suarez NOES: None. ABSENT: None. is. 32 DISCUSS'AND DEFER CONSIDERATION OF PROPOSED CONTRACT WITH SOUTHEAST'BANK t' FOR LOCKBOX SERVICES. n Mayor Suarez: Item 30. Mr. Plummer: Mr. Manager, I have a problem here. I can't for the life of me = understand' why we are increasing the deposits in their bank and they are making a charge for this service. I asked before if this was soft dollars, the answer was yes. Obviously my understanding of -soft dollars is not. It is - my understanding that you will be laying off approximately six people out of the Finance Department; is that correct?' Mr. Carlos Garcia: No, Commissioner, we are not planning,to lay off anyone. W011 be... Fs- Mr. Plummer: Well, it's taken six people to do this now and that's the 'Justification of going over to the Southeast Bank at an approximate cost of, $30,000 a year. rAY Mr. Garcia: No, we don't have six people on the computation that -we have given you. We have given you that we will not hire temporary staff which fa T,= k s }' being, use now "for' .his purpose. Mr. Plummer: Well I've got a problem. If relre' increasing the �depbsits their an, why"aura Foe pay ing' them anything? Mr. Gard A: We are"not paying them `anything.*'Instead of giving them th¢ cash n . payment, Wa will iacreaia' our baianca. with the'. MrF. 71umn,er: It increases your bal"anc4s, yes, quicker, but that's �t►t � the �: # r� You ara doing• to'be paying'the�i'.a fee 'of tsn Gents �a`r item: fiFf Mr�GO arci:, Right. �� r 112 3. _ plummet: That is a cost factor of $30,000. Now, did you go but and — Mr. competitively bid this with other banks? -because I'll guarantee you they ate out there swimming a river right now, trying to get business. Mr. Castaneda: OK, we couldn't do this for this particular purposes because this bank already has a contract with the City, they are supposed to get all of the City's deposits at this time. Mr. Plummer: OK, that then is effective until June, when there is a renewal? Mr. Garcia: Until October 31st when it ends. Mr. Plummer: Their understanding, the bank's understanding, is June, that's what they indicated to me. Mr. Garcia: The contract expires October 31st. _ _ Mr. Plummer: OK, then I say let's wait, don't renew their contract and let's go out and get a competitive bidding on this and save the money for the City. Mr. Garcia: On October 31st we're supposed to come back to the City. Commission and make a recommendation, whether to .keep this bank or go out for bids. OK, we are supposed to review that contract at the end of the first year. Mr. De Yurre: They may be ready to waive the $30,000, we never know. Let's... Mr. Plummer: Well, that's a different story, but they weren't this morning when I talked with theml Mr. De Yurre: Let's find out, lets find out right now. Go ahead. Mr. James Goodwin: Commissioner, I'm James Goodwin, Southeast Bank. I believe I.gave-you.the wrong dates with regard to the anniversary date of the depository contract. It was bid, I believe, in June of last year, the f contract -'was executed; in October. I. believe October is probably the effective date that's... Mr. Plummer: Whatever it is. My colleague has indicated that you might be willing to waive the fee? x n'. Mr. Goodwin: On the .lock box services, sir? _ Mr. Plummer: Yes. - Mr. Goodwin: That.is the first time I've heard that., Mr. De Yurre: Well,. I thought they. might consider it. It might be,,,agood idea — Mr. Goodwin: We are willing to consider anything sir, but I am not in a y� position at this point.to consider the waive of this fee. Mr. De Yurre: OK,.well maybe... Mr. Plummer: Well, I'll tell you what, the way those things are handled., we'll-giveyou .two. weeks ao think about it. Come. back. in -.two ;weeks:, �E f ty �L Mr. De Yurre: OK, we'll defer this item until the next meeting. Mr. Plummer: No, no, he is already using people now in an antiquated systesa that<:he .has been ueing for,,.a.,he Qf a;.long time. Y4 Mr. srcias If ,I Qoald malCe a.,statement, Comaai�ssionor. The„reasons wa deoit s to:F.with•s:the bank end .lock box ssxvice i$ because we_ -.hays OCR,,;aase� °Yir apt i al � CO d-Rva4t�tr� ;that„;clQats :.S40, 000. The one :that we have at. this ,time obsolete and. -we need to ,replace, that's why at that point we etairted t w9 tKx CiVy x _wout nimbaro=:andaswbonefioisi_ k bank' instead oi' trying tp:do that uerYi�e h0)1ke.h Fine.. r: You s had that service in an antiquated $ysteM for Mr: Pluneoelong = time, lens give them two weeks to think about it. — Mr. De Yurre: Do we have a motion to defer? Mr. Plummer: Fine, I'll move to defer. Mr. De Yurre: Second. Mr, Plummer: Try to save the City $30,000. } Ms. Kathy Manover; May I make a comment about the $30,000 in charges? Mr: Plummer: I'm :sorry? Ms. Hanover: My name is Kathy Hanover for Southeast Bank also. The $30,000 charge, you had talked about whether it is hard charges or soft cost ' and . he had talked about the balances. Currently, the account with the charges that are charged that we won the competitive bid for are charged against balances. I handle your account. Your account is profitable to the point where you don't pay any charges, in fact, you have an overrun of balances. If you had $30,000 saved, $20000 a month in charges for lock box services, you really would not be incurring any costs because you have balances presently to cover half of that. Mr. Plummer: Your indication to me this morning was that it was approximately ten cents an item. Ms. Hanover: Right, $30,000. k= Mr. Plummer: OK, 300,000 items is what you told me, approximately in the run of the year, OK? What is .the average daily balance of the 'City of Miami in F; that -account? -- Ms. Hanover: Oh, about $1,000,000. 4. i Mr.":Plummer:•_About $1,000,000. That's how much a7day,-interest? i ours is not tied to T-bills, so if you want to say on a Ms. Hanover: Well, y — monthly. '. r i - S f Mr. Plummer: Fine, you get float, you get you know, weekend money, that's all �. t included: in there and I'm saying is, that 'if you -want the City's'busiaess then:I think that by.increasing.that-amount;' and obviously you are"going•to be increasing it. by •.an awful amount of money by all: of the bills, the deposits, you'll be making, that you ought to do it for the City for free, that's all ® I'm saying: We can take :a $1,000,000 account somewhere else: rtu Mr. Goodwin: Commissioner, I understand your. concern. I believe that the finance office would agree that we:, believe that we can process the items _ faster than you are currently... `, Mr. Plummer; We`understand that: Mr. Goodwin...'. and: you will make the money available to the City. faster ,1m.4h, it will be reinvested faster. F ( °a` Mr, Plummer; . !We•'.understand •that. It can't be reinvested until the .CQmmispion f.a ;0 meets, that's :_two weeks, " Mr Goodwin s Pardon, sir?'' y E . Mr Plummer: You can't reinvest the money, as far• as... e : 4 t �fl �y+ fA•. � Mr, De.lurrov Well, let me make a point clear mot+. .Ybu ale teli�n� me§thgt� f "do shot=.yrurt a' risk ;. of g4iag in the holy with us, beceu$ee .aoe tk#sax#r' you s doobjo Whatever the: cost would be. ( M , ; Goodv►lns Whatever. the: costs are,. Corenissier, relativAr mai �ananee oP' the ,account, the foza�aia. for'.comp-OAO& Q has b� 3 lat+g, ,#ggg r by .ohs contract and :the' req�aa t Q ' propaaala which welr oco�cpor tad, ?�� cQ1lt'act� :" wh�h were authored ay the Gity. Ws do :not eet�► y}}. ' p) t T 1 4 5 . t 5 �i estimating or offsetting the cost of services. That was given to us Mr. De Yurre: Nov, we are talking about putting in additional funds, right? Mr. Mummers Correct. Mr. Garcia: That's right, we are asking them for additional services which will require additional funds. Mr. De Yurre: Now, so we are kind of changing things around, so in order to forget out the put in additional funds you would be wili� to eis going,tosayebesprofit ble for you costs of the ten cents per item, be anyway. Mr. Plummer: Approximately how much money are you talking about 300,000 items a year? in these Mr. Gareias That money the City will get credit for immediately. ` f Mr. Plummer: I didn't ask, that's not my question. Mr. Garcia: Yes, I would say about $15,000,000. Mr. Plummer: About $15,000,000 more than what they bargained for originally, correct? Mr. Garcia: Well, sir, we'll get credit for that, they are not going to keep those funds at all, OK? Mr. .Plummer: L understand, but the account is now $15,000,000 proposed to be larger than what it was negotiated for. Mr. Garcia: No, air, if I may. They are supposed to be getting all of the City's receipts. The only thing they are going to be doing, instead of the City�:preparing the deposit, theyvill,be processing the payments themselves. Mr. Plummer: And charging us $30,000. Mr. Garcia: Right, for that service. iP Mr. Goodwin: No, we will just be clearing the account, Commissioner and then the staff, will be doing the investment of those monies on a quicker basis than 3 we believe can currently be done under the current City staff. Mr. De Yurre: OK, well, we have a motion to defer, so, let's go ahead with that. MOTION; TO DEFER UPON MOTION DULY MADE BY COMMISSIONER DAWKINS AND SECONDED BY VICE '? MAYOR. DE YURRE, : THIS. ITEM WAS DEFERRED BY , THE ,FOLLOWING VOTE, OF THE CITY COMMISSION:. AYE Commissioner j J. L. Plummer,:Jr. K -Commissioner Rosario Kennedy o ex filler J, , Dawkins j X Commie p Vice Mayor.Victpr,,De Xurre.. I ' iIOESJ CP+ — N • `M F .^ Y ja ■f. _ '. I� t -' T i - `k .1.6 S!'+` r+ §.''�ui 9 � � _ SAS!• f F Mapac Bair*er �1 .� .:IN'4 f.fGt�,YT', 1 t ! €1 _ -1 1 + r _ ><f„,t:. i'a ! .F=.•C; •`'"i .i 64 ` - a s" +3 i' s t.; rot � yr x:£� ��`�'.•'�. '"fiw, Egr I 33 A MOgISS ISSUANCE OF $6,500,000 OF CITY OF MtAMt, FLORIDA t UARANTMIb SNTI3'LEMEti'f REVIM BONDS, SSptSS 1989 - to finance costs of certain capital improvements and equipment. rr----r—rr.._►----�Mi�...--- Mr. De Yurre: Item 31 is for the bond money, $6,500,000. Mr. D&Vkins: Move it. Mrs. Kennedy: Second. Mr. Dawkins: For the things we approved earlier this morning. Mr. De Yurre: That's right. Well, and in addition to $3,000,000 for the youth center. And what else do we have there, Mr. City Manager? Mrs. Kennedy: Hadley Park. Mr. Garcia: Yes, Hadley Park. Mr. Plummer: Give us just a quick breakdown of the $6,500,000. Mr. Garcia: On the $6,500,000... Mr. -Odic: OK, go ahead. Mr: Garcia: It's composed mainly from $3,000,000 for- the Youth Center, and two point one for Hadley Park. In addition to that, we need to reserve, to create a debt service reserve, those monies will stay invested. Mr. PlummeSo you are saying that basically the'$6,000,000`is go r: ing for two projects?` Mr. Garcia": That's right, yes, Commissioner. Mr. Plummer: Now, ` was it not also my understanding that money would not be used for a youth center unless there was matching Lunds from the State? Mr. Odioi No sir; no. Mr. De Yurre No, that was not it at all. Mr:: Odio: 'There was no restriction. Not to my memory. I haver+'t seen the transcript. Mr. Garcia: At this time all we are doing ,we are approving. authorizing the bond i`asue'. Once the ` monies are received, we will not be able to spend any monies until the City Commission passes an appropriations ordinance for that purpose. Mr.` -Plummer: OK, have we... you know, the main problem that I have, .of youth center, is it continued, you know,.to build it, that's fine, it's nice, but' where we don't have money to operate our, parks today; whore -'are' we tomorrow to got the money to operate this youth center? M-you and I'm surerDerYurre: .Welllet me tell you've been aware of it, the H't Kiwanians'.of:Little Havana are very,involved in this process.,;'and they want to T ;c. run 'the' plado "'and °they are willing through their sponsors `to raise the mon�ay to run and.you know, maintain the facility on a year around basis,lv k*a Mayor+.Su`apers: ,I..waa going to ask about that, Have we managed to Gominfsh�w ' either with the Little Havana Kiwanis, T gueso you motioned, that gxflpo�sa, , r�4 Tiy :Or, w th'fthe = Tha Miami Heat proposal', or any other :proposal than wo�,t d iVR -;UP �� t _ tfi:e ability to :;run` areaiity, without haVirig to.. P t R S Rill > x sY+$ 'i aY r: t + t ,:,k r :r �, -. �• ry pi��� +�++� i rqi � Fl umraer3 Mr.0 Mayor, z wouldeei Comfortable with "that ifT ghat k ss �s5fr . °rt y N teal t1�e'+'°'�l#loatiQA' 03 mosyt'' Now, m�► aona+�Fn ls, h.Iill� reegt'`tde� �lS 1ih�, ,. .. ....... ... .: , ..: . .. ,.,.: . •_5.` :.: -.. "r, ..-:. .. -..: .._.. .:` i. _,-f __a _ _ v. 1'l_SR}' _aft'.+y_���77!.k4'tJ . lav�. •x •::; i4i"i?ri�L,F7PFf '"kif(sa: '}�o ;'�+PYp.'° ; w4 Fa�4�v#s _'Cp++v,a �w�,�: ,�« j..fw.,+rr ,*'�:v + r f � t f _ equipment... I'm asking once again, if we put in a $3,000,000 Youth Center, it's got to cost at least $500,000 a year to operate and maintain: Now, if we _ don't have the moher today, if we have a guarantee that that will be only built if there is a maintaining supply of funds, other than City monies which - are not available. Mr. De Yurre: Well, the City is going to have to put part of it, because it Is a City facility and certainly it's for the best... you know, if we are going to start arguing... Mr. Plummer: So you are going to be robbing fro other places already? I mean, you know, look, I am all in favor of a youth center. I think it is a great thing, Coral Gables has a magnificent pilot program, but they don't have deficits in all the rest of their parks. We doi Now, that's my problem, I'd hate to build a beautiful facility and then not have the monies to generate it to operate it. That would be a disgrace. Mr. De Yurre: Well, by the time you see what we are proposing and when it becomes finalized, you'll see that a lot of it is going to be revenue producing, in fact, the concept of putting it where it is going to be proposed at Grapeland Park right next to Melreese Golf Course is going to provide services to the golfers to use the lockers and to use the showers and a number of things that is going to enhance, that is going to bring in revenues. We are talking about a number of things that are going to provide money. The Kiwanians... Mr. Plummer: Victor, if what you are saying to me is true, and I know that your feelings are that it is, if I have the assurance that this money will not be spent to establish such a youth center until such time that it is justified before this Commission that there are adequate funds to run it and maintain it, I have no problem. Mayor Suarez: And actually, if it works right, we may be able to reduce what we are spending now on an existing facility that is... what park, was it Grapeland? Mr. Plummer: Well... Mr. De Yurre: Grapeland Park. Mayor Suarez: They might be able to adopt a whole park, in fact, we might makeL that a condition They initially wantedl to spend:, $2,000,000, ,is the figure I remember,'as far as Little Havana Kiwanis. Mr: Plummer: I've got to take a minute of the Commission's time: I"asked for, and my area of concern is in`this book', OK? This City today,,if.T read, correctly, the bonded indebtedness and long" term indebtedness exceeds one billion dollars. - Mayor Suarez: How much? Mr. Plummer: One billion, two hundred and twenty-five million, two hundred and twenty-one thousand, three hundred and sixty-eight dollars,:to be'exact if:what'the Manager has provided me... Mayo.r`Suarez: That is the total long term indebtedness and obligations of the City: rr' Mr. Plummets And bonds, yes, -,air. Mr. Odio: That does include the... , Ma or Suarez: "OK doy ; a't' call it bond indebtedness; `because' most' of t?:at, w Tot `o>t that'` isn O t bonds. ({' tir. P umna : Well, I am 113ng it bonds and long term indetbtednesei, ties r 2�, total abli titian of this City today and I have to take except ioiwith an' cyan' in lie'ra ` ghat :ie' already wan know, at. this point is. double tho$wre that's on the Workmens' Comp situation.- In her you are our paint so Apr +Worfuptnivt Comp and in losing two lower courts, we*'.,%now, fvhat ghatig>x. hog is in ,excess of $B,AOQ,OpO, With penalty; and . Aterest. Now,V Q)rl�fi� this .ie my doneera, and , if JIM wrong; please s,omet�ady tel me I'M N �, ' 4t r 7 i ti-7 j� l d�, zu$•.. ,,. ...:j.,... a.3 7 _. Y t , r. ._ _, ' . .. .. ... .. - ,,.x . stl-tom.: �. .s. '.i ..���C�� _ _ — Mayor Suarez: iihat is the total of that, if I may break that down ju�it for a _ second? tahat is the total of indebtedness that is from Revenue Bonds? _ or you call them special obligation? Mr. plummets Let me read through here. General Obligation Bonds... Mayor Suareks You know, I love to get documents All the time and I've got tons of documents, but I hope somebody every once in a while can answer something from memory. What is the Revenue Bond outlay of the City right now, outstanding, if you know? Mr. Garciat Yes, it's... Mr. Plummert Including interest is $168,960,128. uding interest? Interest owned now, in Mayor Suarezt What do you mean, incl 1989? Mr. Plummert That's, if you could... Mr. Garcia: That is principal... ' a Hr. Plummer: You've got revenue and special obligation bonds for $170,000,000 and you've got the interest on those bonds of $198,000,000. Mayor Suarez: Owed at this point? Mr. Plummert Yes, sir, as of today. - Mr. Garcia: That is the total amount of future payments that the City has`to 4- - make,'both principal and interest, and that includes also... i !Mayor Suarez: That doesn't make... don't 'tell him, that` is on 'term _ indebtedness, that isn't. If you paid it off right. now, you would pay $170,000;000. That's what we owe now. Sure, if we paid"over" time'. My mortgage on my house is X amount, I won't say what it is, but I... almost did, just about did! But, what I have to pay over time is three times that.. r Mr. Garcia: The total amount of principal owned at this time is $95,700,0001. Mayor Suarez: Yes, I mean, you know, I'd hate to have some people in New York get hold. of some of these figures and build them into prospectuses.: You; don't z i take'into account all the payments you are going to make overtime, because if i3 you paid it off now, that is what you owe. You don't owe all the interest payments over time. It is useful analysis anyhow, I mean, if''you-want to tell 4 people now much we are going to have to pay over time. z_ Mr. Plummer: If you sold the bonds with this amount of interest, I am sure there would be a penalty if you prepaid them off. All I am concerned about, Mr. Mayor, is... MayoIr'Suarez: No, there should usually be absolutely no penalty, if you pay s off an indebtedness right then, there is no penalty. Mr. Plummer:Where does this say... Mayor' Suarez: Every once in a while if you refinance, there is a :refinancing penalty. Othsrwise you should be able to pay off a loan any time,without any fin> penalty. That's what they want, they want you to pay it: Mx Plummert If we paid off'Just the Revenue Bonds, where would this pity 8e� $170;000;000? If wo paid of the°General Obligation Bonds, where would this City get $189,000,0007 = 7 Mr. "flawkihkt' .L0TT0,_'`#rom the LOTTO, � , t9r. Piuimae�rc" Pram: -the LOT', !`0; yes. Ha , ram, 4r - !lr:.= l?e `Xnx'ra i Tite : fantasy' LOTTO: ° $r'•�� 1 ; rrrif , t i GM t� _ ...33.w s:.w-.._.Sf aF_•k, ?._.. _., �,;,... ii,. u. _.._..-' ._ ..-;, .. .':: .'., .. __.. . ,- .... .. r 3 ._,. ,.. .. f.. _. X..�.tt.3� ;rc�#t�� _ _ 'P are saying is that we can't pay off all our Mayor Suarez: What you indebtedness right now. If we could, we wouldn't have any indebtedness, Of douree we can't pay it off. !i Mr. plummer: Mr. Mayor, this indebtedness continues to grog and.•• ae have made Mayor Suarez: That is a very good point. I think that very = clear to the Manager that turning revenues that we are now receiving, or we are going to be receiving in the future into capital projects by getting into Revenue Bond indebtedness by Special Obligation Bonds is very dangerous. We are using up too much of that. I had an analysis done of that and how many revenues we still have that we could pledge and we had pledged quite a bit. Compared to other jurisdictions, we've pledged a lot more. Mr. Plummer: Well, I think that the problem... what is the percentage at this point? Mr. Garcia: The percentage, you are talking only about General Obligation Bonds which is that one... Mr. Plummer: I'm talking about this number of one billion two hundred and twenty-five. Mr. Garcia: OK, the percentage of what, Commissioner? Mr. Plummer: The percentage of bond indebtedness, against I assume the - leverage term is of General Funds, correct? _ Mr. Garcia: OK, the percentage that usually is applicable is only the General _ e total assessments of the City and that Obligation debt as a percentage of th is less, it is about eight percent... I'm sorry,. it is much less than that. _ City has would be a billion five, an The.lS percent cap that the d that is for General Obligation debt principal only and the. amount that is outstanding today is about $200,000,000, so we are talking about one point five percent. Mr. Plummer: Of this 'amount of money, what has to be paid off on an annual basis?,. Mr. Garcia: Of this amount, over all I would say about $40,000,000 to $50,000,000. t Mr. Plummer: Every year. Mr. Garcia: Right. Mr. Plummer: And you don't think that the taxpayers should be concerned about this? Mr. Garcia: I'm not saying that. Mr. Plummer: I am. K4_ Mr. Garcia: OK. Mr. Plummer: I'm,very concerned about it, OK? - extremely and you know, you are talking about things in here that this Commission is yet to address! You are talking.About out $4$0,000,000 in pension obligation right.now. Hopefully itA can be negotiated. S� Mr. Odio: Well, not:. Mr Plummer: only go ,by ;the numbers your staff, supplies, of #our3= hundred Qghty-seven mil"lion nine hundred6 ... � I��yar Suarez With ,,all dt�e respect, I would never have reduced this:z P an analysis to"writ ing• �yy lr Qdio:, T1lat'a what he asked us to d0. fi F in Mr. Qdiaf': Wei 1, hqw can i refuse Y t k E' Y a,. xg�Vk`.k - ' i Mayor Suares: He is a Commissioner and all of that, but I would refuse to Bend it. This is in incorrect statement of indebtedness that could really come back to haunt the City. You could say in a separate memo, we'll send you all of the interest payments we'll have to make over the next 30 years and we'll add them up, if you want. None of this is discounted to the present, Mr. Odio: The bankers are well aware of our situation and we are way below the borrowing capacity- io is one of the lowest of any similar Mayor Suarez: Our debt to equity rat City.... - Mr. Odio: The lowest of any City in the country. Mayor -Suarez: ..a but not analyzed this way, I mean this is useful, but not quite in the way that it is presented here and God knows if Carl Goldfarb gets a hold of this, what he is going to do with it back there, or Ronnie Ramos, you know. Mr. Garcia: Mr. Mayor, with that particular memo there is a brief report that was delivered to your office this morning and had the breakdown of all those amounts in there. Mayor Suarez: Yes, this kind of a summary is really misleading. Mr. Plummer: Let me ask... - Mr. Odio: :Gong back to the pension, Commissioner, we are only the Gates Case, _ which is the famous Gates Case, the only indebtedness we have is what is scheduled ,for this year. You can't take the $480,000,000 and say we owe that. If we were to pay that up, it would be only $180,000,000. 1 Mr.. Plummer., But you are figuring in what the interest on that would be. Mr. Odio,:, Sure. 4;. Mr. Plummer:.That's.right, because we don't have the money to pay„,it off. Mr. Odio: Well, what we are trying to do is say... Mr.,, Plummer: I,:. s sell another bond. -1 , Mr. Odio: No, let's pay them.off and save that ex... Mr. Plummer: Where are you going to get the money to pay them off? 4 Mr..Odio: What? T Mr. Plummer: Where, are you going to,get the money,,to pay them. off? >=- r Mr. Odio: You sell bonds. Mr. Plummer: Pffff.•: more :bonds! M"MU Mr. Odio: ;.;dell, :wait..a minute!, Because" you ;want..:; `rx ou need mane sell r� Mr. -.Plu=or;.. , You,,know, :.it, s a: magic wand. ground > :here,' Y Y, t bonda! The heil with the taxpayers! Y x Mayor Suarez: Mr. Manager, I wouldn't 1get into. that, that idea. We've° giveh �� up on; that. Mr..:Plummer.: Sell i?onds,;you know, they are . a different color, = A t Mr.'0,djaj�,Mr.rPlummer, fine; you pay the $480,000,000 and don't save what yQu , t r" s a r 'CA save by doing that, ' <yy kg, tr:.7�' dlt�tit `eaY that that is :aiot ths amatts$+?kdp 1# }!j€�,'� �o l szg o A kc Adg for=ae� l mda QXA b�►a} r �:E �� � l xx» yy ,ip h# rat v4 +r 1 %- , 4i ... A. ti) s yr.v' , i ."1, `; f • ,:d i i ".:.'1' *b. "�£ 3 y i. 7 h i $ y�14 Yi YJr.` #3 rr 4l i'J h _ r ' � ' ." a r •r*.*nix' t f( 2 * (f 1 - .�R=xr r`t � � tl t 4 ' a'' :• r c': e �t�f4 t yips 1j�Sl ~ ",'R'rl. • • , t .ieK- c --Wr�^K 4r'�' Eta � Mayor Susteit: No, I said it was not a smart thing to do and I won't note for - it. I've told the Manager that. Mr. plummert May I inquire of the City Attorney. Mr. City Attorney... Mr. Fernandez: Maybe. Mr. Plumamert No, I can inquire anytime. You may or may not answer may or may not work here afterwards. Mr. Fernandezt Hello, J.L. Mr. Plummer: Page 40, under Workmens' Compensation, you are showing a loss or a payment of four point seven billion dollars. Is that correct? Mr. Fernandez: I have no idea, I have not seen the document that you are making reference to, Mr. Plummer. Mr. Plummer: Don't you.... Mr. Fernandez: Work for the City? Mr. Plummert No, I'm talking about the Manager, doesn't he... Mr. Fernandez: No, this is the first time I've seen this. Mr. Plummer: Fine, give me back the document. Tell me how much the City is obligated for on Workmens' Comp: Mr: Fernandezt The Self Insurance Trust Fund... ;r Mr. Plummer: Workmens' Comp, I'm referring to. _ Mr. Fernandez: Yes, Worker's Comp, that would be a nonfunded liability. Is that your question? Mr. Plummer: That's correct. Mr. Fernandez: An unfunded liability perhaps in the neighborhood of _ $20`,000,000 to $22,000,000 for Workers Compensation. Mr: Plummer: And `if we lose in court'as we have lost twice already, how much will it be? ® Mr. Fernandez: You are, talking now about losing in court in the pension offset case? Is that the;reference you are making to? ' Mr. Plummer: That's correct, because of the twenty-four is that dedicated to that? Mr. Fernandez: No, not at all, that is not considered or. contemplated'.3n that Mr. Plummer: Then how much is offset in the case with the Pension Fund, if you lose the case in the Supreme Court? r Mr. Fernandez; Whether that is in fact a debt of the Self Insurance; Trust Fund, or'"that would !be a debt of the Pension Trust Fund, we:arelooking at ,.a Asa .scenario perhaps of another $6,000,000 to $7.,000,000. Mr. Plummets Perhaps. 'Does that include the interest and penalty? Mr. Fernandez: Yes, it would, and that is like Mayon Suaras has ob�se�ved, f �7� really not reduced- the present value and not annualized either,, Jump sum that I eve that given you. Mr. Plummer: OK. r =r Mayor Suarezt. Well, the one thing that I do -,want to aay, and absolutely agree. with you, is that our :,debt _to equity r44w) indebtedness ataaCloa does not reloct .the df£ICU lt operating a:tata�,t► ._ ra save; because we have taken ogarat'ing revanues and traTMalat x� 12i3t fi �.n� u1 >r i' ,`,�-'.. 'C`4 ,—.c . ,. .. ., . . ,. . ) _ .. .. . •• }i (.n I. R.ci Yi.:F:� eP. i i bonds by pledging them for certain capital projects and I do fully agree with you on that. I think that the more we emphasize that to our constituents and to our staff and to ourselves, so we don't get carried away with any kind of debt, you know, incurrence and frankly, this may be one good time, this may be a good juncture if we don't think we should be getting into these, maybe we shouldn't approve theca. I... Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, the ratio is fine and a ratio, I'm sure, is average across the State or across the country. Reality is, what is it costing our taxpayers and what is the financial condition of the City? Mayor Suarez: On an operating basis it puts us in jeopardy because we have pledged revenues that would otherwise go into our general revenues and it's difficult because we are constrained by the millage cap... Mr. Plummer: 8xactlyl Mayor Suarez: ... not to mention the fact that the voters would never accept a millage increases anyhow, even if we didn't have a millage cap, because we are a high tax City, so you know, I fully agree with you, I think that maybe this is a good time to take stock. Mr. Plummer: When you .look at the fact that right now, that the City Manager is going to be proposing, because he needs another $1,500,000 for the rescue of the Fire Department, that he is going to have to get it out of users fees through whatever method that he does. If you ask the people of this community which is more important to them, a youth center, a pool, or medical rescue, there is no question in my mind which the people would answer. And if you go through these items that are in this book, we have to come to a realization that the people of this City can only go so far, whether it is in taxation, or in users fees. The cost of doing business is going up every year. Our revenues are going down and we are trying badly to maintain a level of service which we can't do. Now, you know, all I'm saying to you is, I am damned concerned. I am a taxpayer, I can afford it, but the little old lady who calls your office and my office, who says you have just made me sell my home and move ,out of Miami because I can't afford to stay here,: -is the one that'I'm, talking for and •feel sorr for and We ha a 41% whether it is users f or whether it is ad valorem taxes, or any other taxes, that little -.old -lady -is living -on a fixed; income.. She cant afford any more.. I can afford : it. and everyone of us sitting up here- can afford it, but where do we say enough -As enough?-._qe cannot be all ithings to all people. Now, maybe I'm crazy, maybe,` _ that I .:am the. only one that is. expressing this fear and concern, but I am concerned for my City. It's not the first time this City has gone bankrupt. It did An 1939 and I don't want to see it,again and I -don't want to'.be sitting here -if it,does.go bankrupt, to have a finger pointed at me that 1-was one::of the ones .that helped it go down and I just think we've. got to .come to some damn hard decisions and realities that we haven't done and accepted at this point.! I'll shut up. Mr., Dawkins; Call the roll: Mayor Suarez:. Do we have,a motion and a second, Madam City Clerk? , Mr. De Yurre: Move it. Mr. Dawkinsr I moved,it. Mr. De Yurre: Second. _ s - - _. 1r'q 7c 5 r`2 i r f y k a34�' - .ilk 24J..tr:+k. Y ..Y [.. �, f}. •sYr. + .. _.. .. .. - __ tg 42 ., .._ , hr .,..Jr . .+.mW. 'Sify'.�.:�i%� _— The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Dawkins, who moved its adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 89-443 A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE OF NOT MORE THAN ?— $6,500,000 IN AGGREGATE PRINCIPAL AMOUNT OF CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA GUARANTEED ENTITLEMENT REVENUE BONDS, k SERIES 1989 TO FINANCE THE COSTS OF CERTAIN CAPITAL _ impROVEMENTS AND EQUIPMENT WITHIN THE CITY; PROVIDING FOR THE ISSUANCE OF ADDITIONAL BONDS AND ALTERNATIVE INDEBTEDNESS ON A PARITY THEREWITH; PROVIDING FOR THE RIGHTS AND SECURITY OF ALL BONDS ISSUED PURSUANT TO THIS RESOLUTION; PROVIDING CERTAIN DETAILS OF THE SERIES 1989 BONDS; AUTHORIZING THE DISTRIBUTION OF A PRELIMINARY OFFICIAL STATEMENT; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Commissioner Kennedy, the resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote: AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Commissioner Rosario Kennedy Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins Vice Mayor Victor De Yurre Mayor Xavier L. Suarez wj NOES: None. 1 ABSENT: None. COMMENTS MADE DURING ROLL CALL: Mr. Plummer: I'm going to tell you that I am going to vote yes because I have 7 to be = consistent. I voted for this in its inception. I voted today -to approve the $140,000 to take this to a bond issue. I merely hope and pray that before any of money is spent on a youth center, that a determination is made prior-that,.there is adequate funds to maintain and operate that facility and I would hope that that would be the case. I'm going to vote yes for the bond issue because I have to be: consistent. Mayor Suarez: I'm going to_vote yes. I do ,want to say that' I.,have doubts about the $3,000,000 figure for the youth center, or the youth complex or the sports -complex. I'd very much like to do it. I'm very happy that Vice Mayor is apparently networking with Little Havana Kiwanis, but it sounds like a lot of money to spend and I agree with you on that. I do want to, I:am approving this, but I know at some point, voting for it, .I know at some point ,we are going. to have to look at the details of the actual project and _I am going to be looking for.as.small an expenditure as possible so that if -we can do:it-for _ less than $3,000,000, combined with the Little Havana Kiwanis' resources, why then we can use the money for some other projects that we have pending. COMMENTS MADE AFTER ROLL CALL: Mr. De Yurre: Well, let me tell you so you understand this, that $3,000,000 is only a.start and we can build it in modules and maybe five years down the road , we can build another phase, but $3,000,000 nowadays. doesn't build a.hell of a ak lot, you;are-,going to find out soon enough. :{ Mayon..Suarez: Maybe that's what I will need to know at the appropriate time,'. what exactly are we going to get for $3,000,000,.but I'am just saying that;-1 - - am not f ixed. on..the ;. $3, 000, 000 _fee . � Mr, per Yurre: ;Could._be more , — Mr. Aawkins.,, Mr, Mayor_. �`5 Y MayorSuarez: That's why I could never.,, I'm sorry, go ahead; f �t fhl Dawkins; No o aheadMayor.a g , Mr. i J n r -- Mayor Suarez: He said it could be more, we couldn't go beyond $3,000,000 from our share, I Cah't imagine, Mr. vice Mayor, T... Mr. Plummer: Where did I hear somewhere, I thought we were going to apply to _ the State for hopefully some monies for that also? Mr. Dawkins: What I need to know from the Administration... Mayor Suarez: Commissioner Dawkins. '- Mr. Dawkins: I need to know from the Administration, The Heat got all kind of mileage out of some quoted words that they were going to build a center in Overtown and they were going to do this, and do other. What is the status of that? They got the mileage in the paper, and that's all we heard. Mayor Suarez: Good question, because I heard that you had proposed the use of Gibson Park in our community, Mr. Odio: They do mean business. We're coming down to the final negotiations with them and I'll announce... ? Mayor Suarez: Well, have they accepted the general concept of using Gibson Park? - the Carlos Smith idea, I think? Mr. Odio: They like that idea. They like that idea and they are working with it and I... Mayor Suarez: Because I endorsed it to Ted Arison and I told him, you know, this... Mr. Odios- They don't want to announce the park yet, or site, yet. Mayor Suarez: OK, well... Mr. Dawkins: They don't want to do what now? Mr. Odio: They are not ready to announce which site yet, but .they are committed to this, and,I think... Mr. Dawkins: You have a letter that they are committed? Mr. Odio: We have a verbal commitment. Mr. Dawkins:. No, no, see, I don't.... -do you have anything•in writing? Mr. Odio: I don't have.a letter. No. No, sir,, Mr. Dawkins:- You see, - and we need it ;in my opinion,. signed .off by the NBA (National Basketball -Association). See, The >Heat don't haveto be here tomorrow. They can move their franchise.anytime.they get ready. When you people start -negotiating for this building and the maintenance of it, you need to do your negotiations with the NBA. Mr. Odio: Well, the problem with negotiations is that they :don',t, have to do .anything, but they want to. I mean, they don't have to do anything - Mr. Dawkins: Why? u Mr. Odio: They:,_dQn't, have to. : Mr. Dawkins: Why? - Mr. Odios Beaune<_they are private business. It's a private business. Yam' tr,.,Dawkins Well, why are they doing it,.if they don't have to do it?,: _ $ds $,ecsuse the feel, that the are a Y Y part of this communit --' want to 'have.::` , C+ Mr Dawkins: 'pnd wh'y: do' xtiey feel `that way, Mr, E. ..Manager? h ' aim j � _ __ S6 Mr. Odio: Because I think that they feel that they are part of this — comanunity, and they... Mr. Dawkins: Oh, they are just benevolent, they don't feel that they have to do something for their image or what have you? Mr. Odio: Well, they are going to do more than the Dolphins have ever doffs - and they have only been here for one year in operation. What I am saying is that they are committed to doing this and I think they will do it. Mr. Datvkias: Well, all I am saying to you, I need to see it committed and started. Mr. Odio: Yes, sir. L _ Mayor Suarazs And, of course, the point at which they do need our cooperation, is the point at which they begin to consider doing it on our property, and that's when of course, we have a negotiating power there. Mr. Odio: Right, negotiating a deal. - - - - -- ---- --- ---------- -- 34. SECOND READING ORDINANCE: Amend 10521 - Establish new projects "Hadley V Park - Pool Replacement" - Appropriate $2,100,000 from proposed issuance f Mi i Florida Guaranteed Entitlement Revenue Bonds, Series —_ of City o am 1989. Mayor Suarez: OK, item 32, second reading ordinance... Mr. Dawkins: Move it. Mrs. Kennedy: Second. Mayor Suarez: ... in Hadley'Park pool replacement. Moved and seconded. Any discussion? Read the ordinance. Call the roll. = AN ORDINANCE — AN. -ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTION 1 OF ORDINANCE` NO. -,a 10521, AS AMENDED, ADOPTED NOVEMBER;17, 1988, THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS APPROPRIATIONS ORDINANCE,` BY ESTABLISHING A NEW PROJECT ENTITLED` "HADLEY PARK - POOL REPLACEMENT" PROJECT NO., 331349 IN THE AMOUNT OF $2,100,000; APPROPRIATING FUNDS IN SAID AMOUNT :FOR SAID PROJECT FROM PROPOSED ISSUANCE OF CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA GUARANTEED ENTITLEMENT REVENUE BONDS, SERIES 1989 CONTAINING A REPEALER PROVISION AND A SEVERABILITY'CLAUSE. Passed on its first reading by title At the meeting of:April'27,.`i989 was taken up "for its second and final reading by title and adoption. 'On motion of Commissioner Dawkins, seconded by Commissioner Kennedy, the:. Ordinance was thereupon -given its second and final reading by title.and',passed and adopted by'" the `following -vote: k AYES: Commissioner`J. L. Plummer, Jr. 5k Commissioner Rosario Kennedy s� Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins Vice Mayor .Victor De Yurre- ti rt Mayor Xavier L. Suarez ,y x tt m� , NOES:None. , AS None• RM THE ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE. NO. 10586. I t 1 [ T v e Lr .Yi 1,25 Yv The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commission and to the public. f s r•rr—��i--------_---arr--r•i,Lrarr--i___Y. .. ..... .. ._ .. ..( 35. ACCBBT BID; PANDICK OF MIAMI - for furnishing typesetting, layout and 1 a — printing of official statement special obligation bonds for GSA/Graphic Reproductions Division ($ib,50b,b00). a -------------���....� Mayor Suarez: Item 33. f Mr. Dawkins: Move it. 3 Mayor Suarez: Proposed cost, $10,500, bid of nonminority vendors for — furnishing typesetting, layout and printing of the official statement, special, obligation... Mr. Dawkins: That's what Mr. Rodriguez was telling us this morning, it has to be printed a special way, isn't it? Move it. Mayor Suarez: Moved. Mrs. Kennedy: Second. Mayor Suarez: Second, any discussion on 33? J.L., you OK on it? Mr. Plummer: Yes. Mayor Suarez: Call the roll. The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Dawkins, who moved its adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 89-444 A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BID OF PANDICK OF MIAMI FOR 4 FURNISHING TYPESETTING, LAYOUT AND PRINTING OF THE OFFICIAL STATEMENT SPECIAL OBLIGATION BONDS' FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF GENERAL SERVICES ADMINISTRATION/GRAPHIC'' REPRODUCTIONS DIVISION AT A TOTAL PROPOSED COST OF $10,500.00; ALLOCATING FUNDS THEREFOR FROM THE 1988-89 ® CAPITAL" BUDGET OF THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT ACCOUNT CODE ® NO. 269901-773/311013; AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO INSTRUCT THE CHIEF PROCUREMENT OFFICER TO ISSUE A PURCHASE ORDER FOR THIS SERVICE. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Commissioner Kennedy, the resolution was passed and "adopted by the following vote:` AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Commissioner Rosario Kennedy Commissioner Miller J. Dawkinsh; Vice- Mayor Victor De Yurrex" Mayor" XavierL. Suarez t� NOES:, Nonq ABSENT. None. f _ a - Yr li � f .+•fi i x 1 ri( tr " pp T S ,4w-Fv i..?F�M. - aY. J J3��Jk�` LL�fdFx � Sri i 4a_ � - 4 — -- —... .. .��—��—. ..—��--`--------.-.—...----- --------......�.-- k t , ------.�.—-----------wrr .— .— i 36. REJECT PROTESTS FROM BERMELLO, KURKI, AND VERA, INC. AND FROM BOSCO, i KIRKLAND ARCHITECTS, AND TO UPHOLD PROTEST RECEIVED FROM CHARLES HARRISON PAVLEY, ET AL - regarding professional — architectural/engineering sertticas for City Administration Building, Phase It. --------------------------- Mayor Suarez: Item 34, rejecting the protest received from two sets of architects on... Mr. Odio: We have the Chief Procurement Officer rejected the protest from both Bermello, Kurki and Vera, Inc. and from Bosco Kirkland Architects and we uphold the protest received from Charles Harrison Pawl. ' Mayor Suarez: What would this lead us to do in the next phase of the proceedings in view of the fact that we don't know exactly what we are going to do for an Administration Building? = Mr. Odio: Because you ordered us to go out and RFP to select an architectural — firm and that what we are doing. Mr. Plummer: For what? Mr. Odio: For the Phase II of the Administration Building. Mayor Suarez: Which we may not build. Mr. Odio: That is the decision you have to make. Mayor Suarez: And when you say that the protest of Charles Harrison.Pawley _ was upheld, what does that mean? - Mr. Odio: Well... Mayor Suarez: In terms of selection of the architects? = Mr. `Ron'Williams: Yes, that essentially means that they did -file:a,protest, Mr.Mayor,' and we concur that their concerns are legitimate and we are - upholding their findings, therefore asking you to allow them back into the -_ evaluation process. Mayor Suarez: Oh, we are still at the evaluation process? Mr. Williams: Right. - Mayor Suarez: Maybe we should suspend the evaluation process because of the possibilities of other avenues to be pursued, but..: Mrs. .Kennedy: Why were the other two denied? Mayor Suarez: The other two were denied? 4h Mr. Williams: Yes. - Mrs. Kennedy: Why? ,5 Mr. Odio: Bermello had expired architectural and engineering licenses and the t� other one... r Mr. Williams.' The other one I believe was submitted late. — Mr. Plummer: Who is the Chief Procurement Officer? Mr.' Fernani az: Ron Will"iartis. s ter Pumme_.r,: I `about hia procurement, but I' didn t 'know he" was ,heard — it, ' rrr3 You r a"`lot 'about "fit; don't you, - M Williams: ita { ram :Y b F j A - Mr. Plummer: Where are we? Mayor Suarezi We are going to hear, I guess from counselor on this item. What happened to counselor? There he is; busy talking to Miami Today. Mr. George Knox: I'm sorry, Mr. Mayor and members of the Commission, my name Is George Knox, I'm an attorney with offices at 4770 Biscayne Boulevard and represent Mr. Willy Bermello and his architectural firm of Bermello, Kurki and Vera. We are here and have been directed to ask the Commission to please overrule the determination made by the Chief Procurement Officer relative to _ the submission by Mr. Bermello and his firm for the competition for the design +� of the new Administrative Building. I ask you to keep your decision in the context that there is obviously no sense of urgency about the continuation of _ the selection process number one, and number two, that there is no obvious = prejudice in any place that we've participated because the Chief Procurement Officer did have the foresight to suspend the process upon his notification of a protest. I think it is important however, to indicate for the record that the basis of the protest was based upon three factors, all of which we believe are extremely significant and the first is, that there is an appearance that �— there was a violation of due process in connection with the procedure by the Chief Procurement Officer to notify Mr. Bermello and to act upon the apparent t rejection of his proposal. ' A Mayor Suarez: Do I gather correctly that you would be satisfied if we didn't act on this item, at least for the moment? - hold it in abeyance, take it under advisement, postpone final decision, whatever you want to call it? _ Mr. Knox: I think that would be appropriate, especially if the City is considering as a matter of policy, either reexamining the question of the i development of the Administration building. Mayor Suarez: Yes, right, we understand the reason, but I mean as to your 1 t taril ? client, this would satisfy you at eas women y Mr. Knox:. At this point my'client is not a part of the competitive selection process,, but think more importantly, there is a very -serious blight,on his record as an architect where it appears on the public record that he's been disqualified for <a reason associated with his professional license :and, we believe that tha:'was not necessarily a. precisely incorrectdetermination, but _ it would surface... . Mayor Suarez: This is, your client was Bermello? Mr. Knox: Yes. Mayor Suarez: Oh, I know why he was disqualified, because: my brother `was working for him and he left the company, that's why. Mr. Fernandez: Mr. Mayor... Mayor Suarez: What was the problem?_ Do you want to put into the record, if there was a problem, what it was and... Mr.. Knox: To briefly put into the record what the problem is, Mr.. Be. mello was notified by -the Chief Procurement Officer in a.letter that his .application had been; 1 disqualified for an:alleged failure to have a current.occupatlonal _ license.:.. The problem: is from a procedural point of view.> that ,that letter specifically indicated;two things that are not correct, ,in, fact , by--aw..t. Mayor Suarez: You are talking about a City of Miami occupational license that costs'- $30 ,. $40, for ,a... - r Ms. Linda- Kierson:: No, no,'1 Mr,. Fernandez, No. State of., Florida 3 It Mr. Knox: o,-: the; professional y} license that'$ osued y the z - ,architectural Stateof Florida.s L haypat Suarez, GK, ..ghat sounds. a. little;, it more Neriaus, Ki�pp+ Mr. Knox: No, the two problems are in that March second correspondence a letter was received by Mr. Bermello bearing the signature of Herb Bailey which Indicated two things that are not correct in fact. First was that the error that had been cited was not correctable. The fact is that all Mr. Bermello had to do was to submit a check to the State Department of Professional Regulation and his license became current and he did that,.. Mayor Suarez: For how much was the check, Just so we have an idea? Mr. Knox: $150. It is a simply a revenue producing device by the State of Florida concerning professionals. Mayor Suarez: Is that equivalent to what happens to a lawyer that didn't pay the Florida Bar yearly fee? Is that... Mr. Knox: It is the equivalent... Mayor Suarez: I guess we have a different system. They say that we're delinquent, or something. Ms. Kierson: A lawyer with an inactive license cannot practice law, nor can an architect. At the time of submission, Mr. Bermello did not have an active license. Mayor Suarez: But in the case of lawyers, if you don't pay the yearly fee, they don't say that you don't have an active license, they just say that you are delinquent, right? Ms. Kierson: It's a different renewal process as far as we are concerned. This is... Mayor Suarez: But it sounds like they are making it sound like the person is not an architect, not a valid architect and while he doesn't have an up-to- date license in the sense that he hasn't paid a very minor fee certainly: is,...., Ms. Kierson: The State law is quite clear. The State law states .that .you cannot proffer your services if you have an inactive license., which"he did., Mayor Suarez: I got you as to the implications of the State law, but I..don'.t. ; want to make it.. sound like they are not valid, architects and all I had ,to .do is pay.$150, that -was the only problem? 0 Mr. Knox: Yes, sir, and this is just... Ms. Kierson: That is not the case.' Mayor Suarez: .,Then well obviously they ought to make sure that they pay, it Jn time in subsequent years if they expect to, do business with. the,;. City, i, mean, I don't have to tell you that, Mr. Knox: Well, that's true, and their position., is, you see your.i the s ordinances do provide for what they calla slight inadvertence...._ Ms. Kierson: No, sir. Mr. Knox:. and we believe that rather than a material variation from the provisions and requirements of .:,RFP, ; the best that .this :,could ,be ,characterized F is a .alight inadvertence,, because your policy, determination and your,po�licy requirements have _to do with whe 'h ' ' aperson ii, capaple of. perfoxm cg tthe task -that had been enumerated in the RFP., a h Mr.. Plummer: No, no, no.. .. .. y Y TR i !ir Fernandez. No. ti� �9, x — !ls. c t t 1 Qit tl38 f y recapor fd'thinkib .ha waatsto put that into aazsuiteina, ' b4t 1 w uA10 hada to; got ii! ehout " of nod is ',qt part u our bid.¢ing prQce$s',for a pro�gctY.that we na of bu , j msar� let:'s bo serious about.; pio,: We, dlsagi oei lvit tk�at sga � o n M o , just „hut f ato ihe� record. Commissioner-Piummit' you 040, .Jlxe -the st men , as, phrased`, go ahead and give 'your .answer and iet � s gdt ' on,, lets Q ` Q b � this,•=' - f {} 3r f �x, s j/ 4?'. 0 Mr. Plummer: No, it is very simple. *is not property licensed... Mr. Fernandez: That's correct. Mr. Plummer: ... to submit,.period! Ms. Kierson: That's correct. Mayor Suarez: That would... At the time of the submittal, the man Mr. Knox: That's a very... Mayor Suarez: That would be our conclusion right now, but I mean we may not have to decide that. Mr. Knoxs And I am saying that it was arrived at by erroneous means that do have Constitutional implications. First of all, in the letter from Hr. Dailey... Ms. Kierson: No, air. Mayor Suarez: Oh, but we are not going to have a constitutional argument here. Mr. Knox: I just need to put this in the record for your information, Mr.. Mayor and the Commission... Mayor Suarez: Put it in the record, and please, let's not get into a discussion about it,.I know you... I have a feeling you_would win in court,on- - this.issue, but I"mean, we just can't get.into constitutional issues. Go, ahead and,put-your client'_' posture so that he... the record is.clear. 71 Mr. Knox: The letter from Mr. Bailey'to Mr. Bermello indicated two erroneous statements in fact and law. Number one, that the violation that he had been accused of, was, quote, not capable of being corrected. It .was- corrected Within one week__ of the. time that he, .`received_ the notice of his disqualification. The second thing that As erroneous in fact and...in law, is that ';`there was, an indication that the committee's decision about his disqualification was"final. The fact is that we are here because the.decision _ .was not, final.. The clear implication ;then. to Mr. Bermello upon legitimate bases'is,that he ,was bei' dead to beiieve that he had no recourse that'vas in fact available to him: under the law and he had to get an attorney. in order to o have, that ,.fact .pointed out to him. Upon his submitting of ,his ,protest on. March 9th,'. seven days after, „his disqualification, the' rules, the Code of Ordinances was "activated: The Code of Ordinances says that the City Chief Procurement Officer shall review the protest and present it to the City Commission' within 30'days of its receipt. The protest was received on March 9th and May 5 , three or four days ago, was the date on which Mr. y, ,.,1989 y g , 8ermello was formAllq advised by the Chief Procurement Officer that the: matter would be placed Before the Commission on this agenda. These are,procadural y defects that would cause the City Commission, if' fore no: other reason,',to reexamine the fairness by which Mr. Bermello was disqualified. Now... Mayor Suareze ` OK,'` once again,' thank you `for` pour statement for the record; see from the shaking of heads,. that we` don't agree quite`.witb tha characterization of 'the proceedings up to now, but, I don't think''we need decide any of .phis. I. would be disposed to; hold in.,abeyance an rep.0 Ut ! r � that `'would select an architect,. at this point, ntt least Qr a $e $ x ,� �f Commissioners, but I `thInk` we ought to hear from the entire Coinmiss'ion or. Plummexs Sorry, ;sir? kj E. % ayo , Su�x sus I was th}inl�iag xk�at ,w� alZa ught to deter aaq final resolut oftno � nro select ling . architects; given 7 "that we are not boo -sure r if we 41re go pM toy s h z�'_'Y..pr ¢ad T dont pant c a l+atati'�� =rula r�Wx oo1}. tQ9 l points of ' law and. otherwise who is and wton ;sot qua ie ►x� , bye" on: Axcktiiact'- or that we ,'appreciate. your atatemeit an' betel Q ►�u � , iieaa�t ,' sure¢ ne4ds thpt tc+ tell; tbP wh9�e �wptt'. e ti D aV lr r% r se at Fr f 7 � F S{ it Mr. Williams: Mr. Mayor, if I may, I believe that you do need to at least approve or disapprove or not approve, the finding of the City'$ Chief Procurement Officer with regard to this process. I don't... Mayor Suarez: We do need to do that, without actually hiring anybody now. Mr. Williams: No, we are not. We're asking, we've conducted... Mayor Suarez: We are rejecting two protests and we're accepting one. Mr. Williams: Right, and we are asking you to.. Mayor Suarez: OK, now, do you need to put it into the record anything to answer his statement as to why his... I mean, I think it is self-evident that, Just what J.L. said, if his license was not valid at the time of the ;y Application. Mr. Fernandez: The process has been amply documented throughout, we refute all the allegations made by Mr. Knox and we feel that the City, that you should proceed with the recommendations of the Chief Procurement Office. Mayor Suarez: Although as a practical matter, I would hope that we mould have other ways, if it is not illegal to do so, to inform architects that expect to be practicing, that their $150 did not arrive or didn't. Ms. Kierson: It is not our responsibility to do that. Mayor Suarez: All right, it is not our responsibility, it's just sort of the — easy way to lead life. Anything else we need to do on this? Hr. Williams: Yes, Mr. Mayor, as part of the procurement process, it is most appropriate that the Commission come back and suspend, terminate, or take whatever action they think is appropriate as it relates to this itself, but this was a legalwe're project g process that in the midst of and we need to. do something in terms of a resolve on it. Mayor Suarez:: Well, I don't think you are right on that. I think we can go. ahead, and just ,defer action on it, but if it's OK with ev and reject two erybody to.go ahead :protests and accept one, that's fine too with me, .s s - we.get along to the next item. just, o 4 Mr, Knox: OK, but are you also indicating that selection of an architect? you will not proceed with the, Mayor. Suarez: Oh, absolutely we are not proceeding with the selection of an architect at this point, George. Mr. Dawkins: But what I am saying... Mr. Fernandez: But that is, Mr. Mayor... Mayor Suarez: I mean, assuming that the rest of the Commission agrees with me. f' Mr, Dawkins: _I'm going to go along with the recommendations of the Mahag er. Mayor Suarez: Right. r Mr.' Dawkins, Now, whether that's your client, or anybody alse's:client, I'm not going to stand up here and have you think that ng by sa in . g,,that ,I'm got J� 4; goialong with,aelecting an -architect now.;. �. _� y � Mayor Suarez: That we are not g ., B r goin to follow the. right MBA.' Dawkins: recommendations of the Manager, xf # z .�, Mayor Suarers r QK, YQ$,Y , let's °not Com<piasioers?' implicati'on either` :;give . that'K, f ((Y�� b �S�` r�: KeapY: Werra m4�t'= aurp:;what'.: we are going 'to do wtW theAdmiata�stn Bui�digg. I . think at this paint it i$' fruitless t o t r►aptitga. f go ahead and °aQD�#ue they t �f 7 q9 ay. t Y Mayor Suarez: OK) but we have he problem then in rejecting the two protests and accepting the protest of Charles Harrison Pawley. Sir, did you want to address..i those particular issues only, please. Mr. Robin Bosco: Mr. Mayor, Commissioners, I'd like to introduce myself, I'm Robin Bosco representing the firm of Bosco, Kirkland. I just want to go on record again I was notified through the process initially that we were disqualified due to a technically of an out of State architect not currently holding a license to practice... Mayor Suarez: Presumably one out of many in the office that was not holding a license? Mr. Bosco: No, no. Again, my situation was that in a... Mayor Suarez: The entire membership in the architectural firm was... Mr. Bosco: No, no. I had spoken with the City Development Department about the process and again, the way the RFP was released, it encouraged people that had experience and background in this specific type of project, the way they were advertising it, to apply. Now, I have a long term relationship with an architect who is licensed nationally, he holds an NCRB, you know, national license. He is registered in Massachusetts and registered in New York and is currently a practicing architect in Toronto. In the RFP language, it said... Mayor Suarez: OK, in what capacity could someone like that. practice architecture in the State of Florida? Only advisory to someone with a license in Florida? . Mr. Bosco: He can practice as an advisor, or he can become registered and practice undera Florida license. Mayor: Suarez: If he was just in the other capacity, would he only- have- been an advisor? Mr. -Bosco: Right. Right, now again, when. I' talked. to the City ..bef ore. the _ submission, I requested a clarification about joint ventures, etc., that were not currently -registered and registered with the.State. .Interpretation.I.had, :{ not necessarily -what they said, but that if a firm did not already exist and they chose to do a joint venture, they could submit an executed copy of the ` joint 'venture agreement:,: outlining the <different :roles :of. they architects' involved and.what soles they would play in the project, which we did. In that. joint venture agreement, it clearly stated that Robin Bosco, Architect, which was me, .who :is licensed in the State, was the architect ;of record and>�that Michael Kirkland, was the project designer. He was not even called the ; architect in that application, you know, technical submittal. Mayor Suarez: Just off the top of my head, I would not recommend that you �call him -the project designer, but I am,tr inB:to PlaY attorneY here.'+Sounds i .,� like that is saying .that he will be :in fact: one of the architects in the matter, as opposed -to just being an advisor. t { Mr. Bosco: No, actually Mayor, I could, as a registered architect, . which- I am, hire: unregistered,;pesple. to do. designing,. etc., 'as long ..,as;,they, do it under my auspices, which this would, and the statements... Lrt Mayor Suarez: I guess drafting,'designing, and those kinds of things are done;." by non -architects. �- _ Mr. Boscos Exactly.;.-., I'm the „one who is _responsiblesand,ln my;;appl catiou,Y clearly, tatsd'.Jn writing;:,and in the application. thatthat was.,the role. f Mayor-- 'Suarez s We get _-the .baaic point': What .was,-: what im--;our answsar �o s that?� ; } c i Mr..:Boscs�s , -.I. was..disqualifLed because of the technicality that .in, the�5tatg� �i`a` again 4t says for (architects to dorm a joint venture„ both arahit�eats muabe registered • .'t • i 3� �'rN fti s�.•iT'x Mayor SuarQZ* Xach of the principals must be registered, ,� `a ,✓� x ' :7 r-.1� b.�,E ii " ;�...,:, ,Lf- i f ^" .f' r �� '�, a �i re�i���b" _ p r _ in the- State • r s re i s� "� �; i , { ME V Mayor Suarez: That's right. Mr, Bosco: Which technically, at the time the REP was initially advertised for, to the time the submittals were due, there was not enough time for any architect out of State to receive this State registration. My associate, Mr. Kirkland, after notification, applied on March 15th for State license and as of this day, has six weeks more to go through the process, even with the different entities submitting their licenses and what have you, so technically... Mayor Suarez: We probably ought to be a little more clear as to exactly what kinds of joint venturing we would agree to, but whichever, it sounds like our staff is about to tell us that by their evaluation, which is the one we must accept in these technical issues, you simply did not comply with the State licensing requirements as your particular joint venture is composed. Is that basically the problem? Ms. Juanita Shearint That's correct. The REP requires registration in accordance with the laws of the State of Florida. The State of Florida laws says that if you have a joint venture, practicing any, as you know... Mayor Suarez: I would say to you the same thing on this as I said on the... '1 Ms. Shearin: ... both entities have to be licensed. Mayor Suarez: ... other one, I would hope that informally in the effort to ' try get bidders to qualify that we would advise them of that and if they can - cure it in time, fine, if not, not. I'm not saying that that's our 'procedure, I am just saying that maybe that should be our procedure, but whichever. We've got our position in' the record, 'you've got yours' and.we are not moving on this at this point. Mr. Bosco: OK, again, my final is when I was first notified that we did not comply, I accepted that in the language, etc. But then when the issue came up, all of a sudden, other protests were lodged that'` werequestioningthe process and the fact that the. rules were not the rules', I wanted to go on f record that again, our team and my team was not disqualified because they were not. competent and capable of -doing the work, 'but "due to the fact of _ technicalities, so'if this is...* — Mayor Suarez: Absolutely, we understand that. We understand that. In both cases one could understand that to be,a technicality. Mr. Bosco: Right. If this is. readdressed by the Commission and a decision is made that people should be 'allowed to rectify.'. _ Mayor Suarez: I have a' feeling that we would have to :let' you 'make your argument, again if we were, about the selection, I just have that feeling, legally we would have to at least Siear your argument and if they say no, all you have to do is send us a notice that you want to be heard on the item with u five days advance notice and I guess we have to put you on the agenda. Mr. Fernandez: The record should also contain and be very clear, that Mr. Bosco did not even comply with the time specifications for filing his... Mayor Suarez: We have another impediment then, in his case. Mr. Fernandez: Yes So he is in fact improperlyin front of i you also.,}� y Mayor Suarez; We are saying, they are saying you didn't comply, timeliness of the requiremeat of the'application. Mr Boscos Again, as° I -explained, Mayor; I take exception =toYthat ibecausy=° - when I ;was : initially `not'ifted that my situation` was not ictt,f able et -.�; T rz ^ suitshad ti en f ! 1eda ainstl thenroce ss asn putMiami Review :that=st�ti� F xF 8+ P e a d that tha = process 1` poem etch plad� t j¢ for, xaevaluatiori Hof those =:suits.- At that' -time, , Within " seven'days ofhoao . ,� :' suits being filed, I notified Mayor S�terexs am not aware of `any lawsuits,` you meant#�at�icdYa�f+`l�r. y� 3 } sq— C zW��' 4 Mr. Plummer: I move item 34. Mayor Suarezt I am not aware of... wait, wait. We've got to explain to him that his time and his protest is over. I don't know what suits you are talking about, so... Mr. Bosco: The suits to stop the process for a while for this reevaluation. Mayor Suarez: I am not aware of any, so you may have read the wrong thing about the wrong project and there has not been any lawsuits. Mr. Fernandez: We have not received any such suits. Mr. Bosco: Excuse me? Maybe I'm using the wrong language, I'm not an attorney, but letters of protest, or whatever it was that was filed. Mayor Suarez: Oh, there were a lot of issues coming up, people proposing different... including this group that is here, proposing a whole different avenue for the City to proceed on, but no lawsuits, nothing that would impede you from completing your... Mr. Bosco: Well, I'm not an attorney, I'm not using correct... necessarily.' Mayor Suarez: OK, I just wanted to clarify the record, all right, thank you, 7 sir. We have a motion and a second? Mr. Plummer: Yes. Mayor Suarez: Call the roll on the rejection of two, upholding of the other. The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved its adoption: -f RESOLUTION NO. 89-445 A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE CHIEF PROCUREMENT OFFICER'S DECISION TO REJECT THE PROTESTS RECEIVED FROM BERMELLO, KURKI, &.VERA, INC. AND FROM BOSCO, KIRKLAND ARCHITECTS AND 'TO, UPHOLD THE PROTEST RECEIVED FROM f CHARLES HARRISON PAWLEY, ET AL. IN CONNECTION WITH THE is — REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS FOR THE" PROCUREMENTOF PROFESSIONAL ARCHITECTURAL AND ENGINEERING' SERVICES*% `FOR THE CITY ADMINISTRATION BUILDING, PHASE II. g (Here:;follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file' in the Office of the City Clerk.) J Upon being seconded by Commissioner Dawkins, the resolution was. passed }n and adopted,by the following voter NM AYES.: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. "Commissioner Rosario Kennedy Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins Mayor -Xavier L. Suarez NOES: .None ABSENTf Vice`Mayor'Victor De'Yurre . Mayor Suarez': . Yes," Herb: �_ Mr Herb`,°Bailey Mayor, ' before you go to the next item, I have a ,Qu�sst_ion. We, have already had a preliminary review and we;'va short-1i`stad sieves architects'who .ha"ve ,qualified, and. now that you have::pased tba motion, °that would perhaps have to be one more that would have to be reviewed. `.`you ragde a s11 tatement'earlier° ab4uv whiptbar• or not we should continue until you ve as to who her.--ornot 'you are going to have a. building. I would iika t4 uw ' just whatthls Commission aants`us to;do be a c use weave eo 1 .4k�,+ad +Yh k" P' ^_ dam, ➢Yp' �WZ Meyor aua�ren'a Were oin ' o tet to I't at i you, g S . Y ben`auae pretty "soon,we ara- going"to be ta 1kiniv about the 440p n Y Bealavard Buildut .aq an alternative and I gueso we'll gat. into yC�t �'r 3j1j ` 1 2 -, - r h t r - jj„ • > .z'SY. r t { _ renting a spaca versus building a whole new building and then we'll hopefully have some kind of indication to you as to which way the Commission wants to go by the end of today's meeting. Mr. Baileys In terms of to deal with these architects... Mayor Suarez: Exactly, so we don't start... Mr. Bailey: Oh, you will handle that at that time? Mayor Suarez: Yes, sir, we will definitely by the end of today have some kind —_ of an indication, Herb. It's been a painful process, to put it mildly, but... Mr. Bailey: All right. Mayor Suarez: ... I know confusing to you in your task. Mr. Knox: You really didn't vote on 34. Mayor Suarez: Other than the legal determination that we made today, the Commission ruling on the rejections of upholding Ron, unless I got this wrong, please don't move at all on any further negotiations on this until you get further word from the Commission or the Manager if he has other avenues of - pursuing that. I don't know that he does, because... 37. EXECUTE LEASE AGREEMENT WITH GROVECOMPO, INC. office space at 2850 Tigertail Avenue, and the microwave room on roof. Mr. Plummer: I move item 35. Mayor Suarez: Item 35 has been moved. Mr. Williams: If I may, Mr. ... Mayor Suarez: Move 35, do we have a second? Mr.._Williams: Mr. Mayor,..if;:I.may on 35,. I: have .,a..change I'd_Iike;to._advise the,. Commission.As_,your.,director, we; went .back to the Grovecompo building owners and they would not acceptourproposal as directed by this`Commission, _that is the...one year,agreement.with two subsequent,one;year options and given that consideration,, we'd like your approval at this pointtoallow us to pay them for a couple months back rent through the end of the fiscal year to allow us,,to explore all :options or -relocations. Mayor Suarez: Including the possibility that this would go with the rest of space or ;note rE Mr. Williams: We think that that!s.. Mayor Suarez: .Oh, absolutely, anything -that would.. Mr. Williams: certainly a consideration. Mr. Plummer: I withdraw my movin g of 35... Mayor Suarez: tOK, so what,is the proper motion now? Mr. Plummers Jave to de er. Mr. Williams: We11, no a Mayor Suarez: No? We n0 ,'tQ r i ✓. '� *t€ '# v r a'v w Mr, Williams: The authorizations .; that I .would `need at .xhis suthori`zato�R <PaY t!t at ,4h ;cuset rater4 {#�ccuh r t Cal ,',y.461r ties sa�ms rats. aft t 7 4 Mr. Plummer: So moved: Mayor Suarez: Movad. Mr. Dawkins: Second, Mayor Suarezt Seconded. Mr. Manager, what... OK, go ahead, Commissioner, I was just going to say once again another space need of the City that we want _ to consolidate if at all possible. it's just that they seem to be coming up 3 on the agenda and unless, like the City Attorney's office, you know, and another one here, unless somebody picks up on it, it seems like... Mr. Odio: We are also... if I may, I shouldn't, but we are waiting to see what happens in the Police Department, when we move out to the substation in Little Havana, which is very fastly being built. Mayor .Suarez: You may be able to take up some space in the Police Department. Mr. Odio: Hope we can move the Computers in there. Mayor Suarez: That would be interesting because I think that is the principle, use the computers, is public safety. Mr. Dawkins: That was going to be my question. - Mayor Suarez: OK, call the roll on the resolution as stated. i - Mr. Fernandez: It's really not a resolution, it is just a motion, really. 35 doesn't make any sense to be pass like... Mayor Suarez: Well, it could have been a resolution is stated but the motion _ as stated is fine. Ms. Hirai: Resolution as amended, no? r �- Mayor Suarez: Yes. _ Mr. Fernandez:- No, no, no, because it's substantially different from what 35" looks like. Mayor Suarez: Well, we are just quibbling about whether we can still call it = `° _ a resolution. 'It!s`a whole different resolution. Mr. -Fernandez:`" It'could be a resolution, it's no problem, that would read completely different. k ,- rt Mayor Suarez: Thank you, motion, resolution, whichever. We have a motion, do 1 we have'a second? Ms. Hirai: ::Yes, sir. Mayor Suarez: Call the roll, please. _: The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who, moved its adoption: ' RESOLUTION NO. 89-446 r 0 A -RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE .USE .ON A MONTH.TO MONTH $ASIS z OF-� 8, 960': SQUARE +FEET OF OFFICE - SPACE'`W. THE " SECOND :FLOOR; OF .A BUILDING LOCATED AT. 2850`.TiGERTAIL",:AVENUE, COCONUT:. '.' — GROVE FLORIDA, ' OWNED BY; 'GROVECONPCp, '` INC. AND k <` THE , �. w = MICROWAVE =ROOM ON::.THE ROOF, - FOR" THE PE#IOD, 88GINNIiG AFRIL.- }: _- 1, 1969 ': AND.- -ENDING ; SEPTEMEER 34k i9Br A2' 4A �JO1t OF, :Sl"1; 946, bb:: WITH - FUNDS °: THEREFOR A1.LOCTED �.FRtaM t'B , - COMPUTER: DEPARTMENT StrDGETE ' FU�TDB FRpkl ACCOUNT 460201 620. - (Here foIIowa body of resolution, omitted'here` n and on f 'ID, . iR= the Of f ioo ofh¢ City Clerk.-' ' r t ixx "' t MRIV j'. $ art y = Upon being seconded by Commissioner Dawkins, the resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote: AYESa Commissioner J. L. pliuveer, Jr. Commissioner Rosario Kennedy Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins Mayor Xavier L. Suarez Upon being set6nded by Commissioner Plummer, the resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote: AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Commissioner Rosario Kennedy Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins _ Mayor Xavier L. Suarez NOES: None. ABSENT: Vice Mayor victor De Yurre = 39. EXECUTE AGREEMENT WITH PROPERTY OWNERS FOR ACQUISITION OF TWO (2) PARCELS WITHIN EDISON/LITTLE RIVER COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT TARGET AREA to develop affordable housing in connection with the City Sponsored Scattered Site Affordable Housing Development Program. Mrs. Kennedy: Move 37. R :t Mayor Suarez: Item 37 has been moved. Mr. Dawkins: Second. Mayor Suarez: Any discussion on 37? If not, call the roll. The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Kennedy, who moved its adoption: _ RESOLUTION NO. 89-448 - A RESOLUTION WITH ATTACHMENTS,` AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO MAKE AN OFFER AND EXECUTE AN AGREEMENT, IN SUBSTANTIALLY' THE FORM ATTACHED, WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS'°'' FOR ACQUISITION OF TWO PARCELS (PARCEL NO'S. 07-02 AND 07 03) WITHIN THE EDISON/LITTLE RIVER COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT 1 TARGET AREA AND WHICH IS MORE PARTICULARLY AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED IN THE ATTACHED EXHIBITS "A" AND -BO, TO BE USED FOR THE 'DEVELOPMENT :OF HOUSING AFFORDABLE TO LOW AND MODERATE INCOME FAMILIES IN CONNECTION WITH THE CITY 's- SPONSORED: SCATTERED SITE AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM; FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE FROM THE ORIGINAL $1,000,000 ALLOCATED FROM 11TH YEAR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT FUNDS FOR ACQUISITION OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTIES IN_ CONNECTION WITH THE SAID PROGRAM; FURTHER AUTHORIZING THE {_ CITY ATTORNEY TO PROCEED TO CLOSE ON THE SUBJECT PARCELS AFTEREXAMINATION OF THE ABSTRACT AND CONFIRMATIONOF OPINION OF TITLE. (Here follows body of resolution,' omitted here ,}y and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.) o- Upon being seconded by Commissioner Dawkins,.' the resolution .was passed`" and adopted by the following vote: }y AYES: Commissioner J.`L. Plummer, Jr. Y Commissioner Rosario Kennedy Commissioner Miller J. • Dawkins )5y NOES: € None;=. ; . y ~ iL t s � 'ABSENT: Vice'Hayor Victor Ae Yurrg y : of 7. nR f qtq ee Cs: ' .r }fit ii.i►iirirw.—rri�i rlLiL.r—in--r�i.�..►i—r--Y.-----wwrrrii+�r—ram 40. AUTHORIZE PURCHASE AND INSTALLATION OF WELCOME TO MIAMI SIGNS AT INTERSECTION OF N.E. 87TH STREET AND BISCAYNE BOULEVARD, S.W. STH STREET AND TAMIAMI CANAL ROAD, AND MACARTHUR CAUSEWAY AT SOUTHEASTERLY POINT OF WATSON ISLAND. -- '------_. --- Mayor Suarers Item 38. Mr. Dawkins: Move it. Mrs. Kennedy: Second. Mayor Suarers Moved and seconded, any discussion? If not, call the roll. The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Dawkins, who moved its adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 89-449 A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO PURCHASE AND. INSTALL WELCOME SIGNS TO MIAMI AT THE INTERSECTIONS OF NORTHEAST 87TH STREET AND BISCAYNE BOULEVARD, SOUTHWEST EIGHTH STREET AND TAMIAMI CANAL ROAD, AND MACARTHUR CAUSEWAY AT THE SOUTHEASTERLY POINT OF WATSON ISLAND; ALLOCATING FUNDS IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $7,000 FROM "SPECIAL PROGRAMS AND ACCOUNTS CONTINGENT FUND, FY 1988-89" TO BE EXPENDED IN ACCORDANCE WITH APPLICABLE CITY CODE PROVISIONS FOR THE PURCHASE AND INSTALLATION OF SAID SIGNS. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here 'and, on file,in the Office of the -City Clerk.) _ — Upon being seconded by Commissioner Kennedy, the resolution was passed and'�adopted by -the following _vote — AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. {' Commissioner Rosario Kennedy Commissioner Mil,ler,-J. ,:Dawkins _ .Vice Mayor- :Victor De Yurre Mayor Xavier L. Suarez NOES: None. ABSENT:None. ,: ? A COMMENTS,;MADE DURING ROLL CALL: Xr..z Plummers I.thought Angleton was paying this. I vote yes. ra' Mayor Suarez: Yes... on the modified motion of Commissioner Plummer that Angleton pays it, I vote yes. - --------- - - ---------------------- ----- --- --- -- rfy 41 RATIFY PAYMENT TO SOLID WASTE DIVISION OF METRO DADE DEPARTMENT OF; ",PUBLIC-_; WORKS. FOR - ,,DISPOSAL FEE - for dumping ,y. of contaminated 'mate xial i dredged from Dinner Key -Marina Fa cilities.f°' _rr —rr — __— -- ---- �.— r —�. -- — --. ---- — --- — — -- y# Mayor Suarez, Item 399. y ' Mlt Plut�ner.t"Igye Tit. E} t ,,.! sn,�t�-��i ;'"k i r 3 ! i 4 3 • X {n�3 'fi di 4. ; i '. F '. 4 S: i'i "a N3 j .. t t t 4' a { { .. 7 t 3 W' ♦. r & .►w �d, endsec,Dsded, ,any diaas�ss.o�► on S4?� zf, A/. 39 �•Til•F .. '+r 1 S a7::3 r:s:,$ ..t..Al h. Sr ii3r d s tt q. The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved its adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 89-450 A RESOLUTION RATIFYING THE PAYMENT TO THE SOLID WASTE DIVISION OF THE METRO DADE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS FOR DISPOSAL FEE, IN THE AMOUNT OF $11,444.00, REQUIRED FOR DUMPING OF CONTAMINATED MATERIAL DREDGED FROM THE DINNER KEY MARINA FACILITIES; ALLOCATING FUNDS THEREFOR FROM THE DINNER KEY MARINA- RENOVATION/EXPANSION PROJECT ACCOUNT CODE NO. 414005; AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO INSTRUCT THE CHIEF PROCUREMENT OFFICER TO ISSUE A PURCHASE ORDER FOR THIS SERVICE. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.) Upon being. seconded by Commissioner Kennedy, the resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote: AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Commissioner Rosario Kennedy Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins Vice Mayor Victor De Yurre Mayor Xavier L.-Suarez NOES: None. ABSENT: None. 42. RESTRICT VEHICULAR ACCESS TO N.W. 1ST AVENUE BETWEEN F.E.C. RAILROAD RIGHT-OF-WAY AND N.W. STH STREET DURING EVENTS HELD AT MIAMI ARENA. Mayor Suarez: Item 40. Mr. Plummer: Wasn't this ,where we had our so-called parkingspaces? Where are you:;going to relocate it? Mr. Odio: No this is the parking space. Mr. Plummer: But they are closing it off. Where are you going to put the Commission's parking spaces? Lt. Longueira: Well, we've been illegally parking there, because it was never officially closed Now,, you are authorizing us to officially close it. Mr. Plummer: Move item 40. Mrs. Kennedy: Second. r Mayor Suarez:- So moved and seconded. Any discussion on 40? Mr. Fernandez: Mr. Mayor: Mayor Suarez: Yes? Mr. Fernandez:.,- Your.lattention, this is a publis bearing.g- Mayor Suaraa: Is :there anyone who ' wishes to be heard on item 40? Lei the ' t� f record reflect no one stepped forward. Mr. Fernandez: And also you should be ,made ,aware of `the, faot that' this resolution that you are pass ing . I have not been able to corroiiorata w2inther °`� � �>�' t� In., fso as it is: stated . in Section &. that: ",the, Miami v5po;t ppying a31 c�sCs : related Ito . the r=.;just allation . And,:;naintes:a�pae of ` �sd _ u barxi�edes. `, a i{ Nil ..�- Mayor Suarez: OK, why don't we approve it subject to confirming that, or You're satisfied, Mr. Manager? The Manager satisfied, good enough, it will - come out of his salary otherwise. Mr. Plummer: Subject to that, right. Mr. Fernandez: Have they confirmed it to you? Oh, OK. Mayor Suarez: OK, call the roll. The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved its adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 89-451 A RESOLUTION RESTRICTING VEHICULAR ACCESS TO NORTHWEST FIRST AVENUE BETWEEN THE F.E.C. RAILROAD RIGHT-OF-WAY _ AND NORTHWEST EIGHT STREET DURING EVENTS HELD AT THE MIAMI ARENA, SUBJECT TO THE PROVISIONS CONTAINED IN THIS RESOLUTION. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on — file in the Office of the City Clerk.) Uponbeing seconded by Commissioner Kennedy, the resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote: AYES: : Commissioner J.L. Plummer, Jr. Commissioner Rosario Kennedy - Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins Vice Mayor Victor De Yurre 4 Mayor Xavier L. Suarez NOES: None. { ABSENT: . None. i K: --------- ----- ---------- --- ----- 1 Y! �. 43.E DISCUSS AND DEFER TO NEXT MEETING PROPOSED CO —DESIGNATION N.W. 17TH —` STREET FROM N.W. 27TH AVENUE TO N.W. 37TH AVENUE AS "FATHER FELIX VARELA �6 ':STREET".'— t� t Mayor Suarez: Item 41. i Mr. Dawkins: Move it. Mayor Suarez: Moved. Co -designation.. Mr. Plummer: What's the date set for the public hearing? Mayor Suarez: Or is this the public hearing? F }+h Mr. Fernandez: This is the public hearing.��a ® Mayor- Suarez: Is thereanyone that wishes to be heard against the co-:T e s` designAtion at item.41? -Let the record reflect no one. `stepped forward,_ against, so presumably. k- ( Mr..Plummers:rMr. Mayor, please don't accept this and- accept the'�act that � have never had anything proffered .to me on this individual know anyt#�iz�g fi,�Yp `about. ,his background: sr Suar¢x: Can we ' table the ..item_ until r Commisssioner , Piuramaar isrrglvoA° { Mr} Plummer,: V"Would like to have some .background ; infortaatio sand be able tQ a r rMr': 1 ,,,read: about hale ra nice guy, you kr►ow.' ('- J; - 11� Iy J z y y, „xf L Qp - } Mr. Plummer: We are deferring 42 for further information. Mayor Suarez: Tabled or deferment? Mr. Plummer: Defer it, they don't have the information. Mayor Suarez: OK, has the motion to defer has been made and duly seconded? If so, call the roll. MOTION TO DEFER UPON MOTION DULY MADE BY COMMISSIONER PLUMMER AND COMMISSIONER KENNEDY, 'THIS SECONDED BY ITEM WAS DEFERRED FOR INFORMATION BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE OF THE COMMISSION; FURTHER AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Commissioner Rosario Kennedy Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins Vice Mayor Victor De Yurre Mayor Xavier L. Suarez NOES: None. ABSENT: None. 0 AYES; Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Commissioner Rosario Kennedy Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins Vice Mayor Victor be Yurre Mayor Xavier L. Suarez NOES: None: ABSENT: None. I AL ---------r.r..rr—.i.-.►-- ►---------- -----------.--.r—����r..�.�r�.r i.r�.��r.r. ...w.r......:.��f. 46. EMERGENCY ORDINANCE: Amend 10521 - Increase appropriations: "Coconut Grove Exhibition Center - Renovation and Expansion" ($300,000). Mayor Suarez: Item 44, emergency ordinance. Mr. Dawkins: Move it. Mayor Suarez: We have a motion, do we have a second? Mrs. Kennedy: Second it. Mayor Suarez: Seconded. What is the nature of the emergency? Mr. Odio: It's an emergency basis, it is due to an immediate need to replace the air conditioning system and paint the existing building of the Coconut Grove Exhibition Center. -Mayor Suarez: i guess otherwise we won't get it done on time for obligations that we-.�have including the ASTA (American Society of Travel "Agent )_ Convention. Mr. Plummer: I'm told it is not going to be ready anyhow for the ASTA Convention. Mayor;Suarez:•- Oh, it<will, it will. Call the roll. I see the Manager saying; yes and Tony going no, so I guess there is some... ` Mr. Odio: It will be ready. Mayor Suarez: ... skeptics in town. Sometimes we get... NONE sea Mr.. Fernandez: This requires -four -fifths vote and two roll.calls.. Mayor Suarez: .. one going like this, another one going like this, and the next day one of them is gone. AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED- . AN EMERGENCY ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTION 1 OF ORDINANCE NO. 10521, ADOPTED NOVEMBER 17, 1988, AS AMENDED, THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT APPROPRIATIONS 'ORDINANCE, BY INCREASING APPROPRIATIONS TO THE PROJECT ENTITLED "COCONUT GROVE EXHIBITION CENTER - ,RENOVATING 6c' 'EXPANSION", PROJECT NO. 415002,, IN THE AMOUNT OF T.��;$ $300,000, FROM,THE CONTRIBUTION FROM MIAMI SPORTS AND EXHIBITION AUTHORITY; AND BY IDENTIFYING THE CITY'S 4 Y 52,000,000 CONTRIBUTION;CONTAINING A REPEALER x ;� PROVISION AND A SEVLRABILITY CLAUSE. ` s Was' introduced .by Commissioner Dawkins and seconded by,"Cosmpissioa�+r`_ Kennedy,. for adaPtion as' an emergency.',neasure and dispensing ;;with._ the y�� �kx�. requirement of ..reading same on two separate days;'. which was' agareed o: by e , ollo�ring votes eras i N}� �{ita• }, .at a� -31].. YrF.x�rx AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Commissioner Rosario Kennedy Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins Vice Mayor Victor De Yurre Mayor Xavier-L. Suarez NOES: None. ABSENT: None. Whereupon the Commission on motion of Commissioner Dawkins and seconded by Commissioner Kennedy, adopted said ordinance by the following vote: AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Commissioner Rosario Kennedy Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins Vice Mayor Victor De Yurre Mayor Xavier L. Suarez NOES: None. ABSENT: None. a SAID ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO. 10587. The City Attorney announced that copies were to the public. read the ordinance into available to the members of 47. RATIFY MANAGER'S FINDING OF EMERGENCY REGARDING INSTALLATION OF AIR CONDITIONING SYSTEM AND PAINTING EXISTING STRUCTURE UNDER: "COCONUT _ GROVE EXHIBITION CENTER - RENOVATION AND EXPANSION" PROJECT. Mayor, Suarez: Item 45. I entertain a motion on the waiver of formal competitive sealed bids. } Mrs.. Kennedy: Move it.. Mr.,Plummer: Second.' Mayor Suarez: Seconded, anyone from the general public wishing to be heard on this. -item? I Let_the..record reflect that.. no one steppedforward._ Any .; discussion? If not please nail the roll. w ,w �3 1z� c..w"t• Al y > T J Z Oy 1-3 {z.-.°.�ti,14F�.�'ef..a:.i}...,. -,.;?;. — The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Kennedy, who moved its adoption: - - RESOLUTION NO. 89-453 s A RESOLUTION BY AN AFFIRMATIVE VOTE OF 4/5TH VOTE OF THE MEMBERS OF THE CITY COMMISSION WAIVING FORMAL COMPETITIVE SEALED BID PROCEDURES FOR THE INSTALLATION OF AN AIR CONDITIONING SYSTEM AND THE PAINTING OF THE EXISTING STRUCTURE UNDER THE PROJECT ENTITLED "THE COCONUT GROVE EXHIBITION CENTER - RENOVATION AND EXPANSION" RATIFYING, APPROVING AND CONFIRMING THE CITY MANAGER'S FINDING THAT AN EMERGENCY EXISTS JUSTIFYING SUCH WAIVER FOR SAID PROJECT; AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ACCEPT THE LOWEST RESPONSIVE AND RESPONSIBLE BID FOR SAID INSTALLATION AND PAINTING AT SAID FACILITY UNDER SAID PROJECT; ALLOTTING FUNDS — THEREFOR IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $300,000 FROM THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT OF THE SAME NAME, PROJECT NO. 415002; FURTHER AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE AND/OR ISSUE THE NECESSARY DOCUMENTS, IN A — FORM ACCEPTABLE TO THE CITY ATTORNEY, WITH THE SUCCESSFUL BIDDERS(S). 5 (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the resolution was passed - and adopted by the following vote: AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Commissioner Rosario Kennedy Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins- Vice Mayor Victor De Yurre _ Mayor Xavier L. Suarez NOES: : None. r ABSENT: None, �o- -------- ---- -------------- ----- ---- -- — --- ----------------- ---- 48. GRANT REQUEST FOR NEIGHBORS TO BEGIN PROCESS FOR CREATION OF SPECIAL TAXING DISTRICT FOR THE GREATER BELLE MEADE AREA (excluding Belle Meade f Island) - to provide guard house services. 1_ -- - - - --------------------� Mayor Suarez: Item 48. Mr. Plummer: This is in reference to the taxing district itself, not h necessarily the guard house. Mayor. Suarez: Request adoption of a resolution approving, the creation of a ? special taxing district for the greater Belle Meade area. Now, does the proposed, resolution; exclude or include Belle Meade. Island and this that a factor in all of this? € Ms. Margarita Shearin: It includes Belle Meade Island, because it.is for the, whole , neighborhood , and has: -been, from the, beginning.,'-. Belle', Meade':.Island art of:Bele„Meade. For the _ purposes: p l of this... Mayorr;$uarez;. You.are living on Belle Meade Island now? Shearin; Well, I live on Belle Meade -Island, ;but it -is, part; of, Belle Meade; f ztf Mayor Suarez; But do,+you,want< t:to'.be in in::.Be7le laland? — _ 1 t' x Mao Shearins Oblyes, definitely. Mr. Flu=ers . Has thgm a _vote .bC9n • taken of the actual homeowners? ,w 446 Me. Shearin: Yes, we have 53 percent of the eligible homeowners in the Greater Belle Meade area who have signed our petition and of that amount, number; there are at least 27 or 28 from Belle Meade Island itself who have joined us in this petition. Mayor Suarez: hell, Margarita, what happens if we then later decide to place a guard house on Belle Meade Island also? Are you going to contribute to that too? Ms. Shearin: Well, I'm not going to worry about that right now, because what _ we want to for the Greater Belle Meade area. The Greater Belle Meade area has to become... Mayor Suarez: You are a Belle Meade Island resident that wants to stand up for the entire area? Ms. Shearin: For the entire area, because it is the entire area, we need protection from the boulevard. 3 Mayor Suarez: I should have known that you were a true civic activist, huh? Ms. Shearin: Absolutely. The people will be able to decide if you pass this 3 resolution, the County will give us more information, factual engineering and x other information and we will have more informed people who can make the proper decision. We think that that will decide whether there will be one or { two guard houses and we think that the people who have earned enough to come forward and ask us to get this information together should be heard and should have a chance to state their position and finally vote on an informed basis. Mayor Suarez: You favor it then? Ms. Shearin: I favor the guardhouse at NE 76th Street. I, always have. Mayor Suarez: Let me see now if there is anyone here to speak against... Mrs. Kennedy: Let me just get the record straight here, because I'm,confused. Mr. Plummer: Let me just ask a question. i= .. .. .. .. .. - it 3— Mrs. Kennedy: Belle Meade Island already got its it resolution. X Mr. Fernandez: Correct. t Mrs. Kennedy: This is now Belle Meade. y Mayor Suarez: Well no, Belle Meade Island got an ordinance that would allow any of these guard houses to be placed and it is not clear where Belle Meade Island.,. - r Mr. Mariano Ayala: Commissioner, if I say... Mayor Suarez: Wait, wait. It is not clear where Belle Meade Island .,would gat: the money for its guard house, we haven't figured that out yet. r z Ms. Shearin: From the citizens of Belle Meade Island: 'Mayor , , y yet that I Suarez: .Well but I mean we don't have that money 'm aware. v Mrs., Kennedy: Well,", but today we don It have, to. decide .the. location We art.. just voting on the special taxing district.' — Mr:: Fernandeza :Mr. -: Mayor.. Me.: Shea;ia:. You're voting `on : the - guard- house . that we,: are: <eiskin' d or; the guard=housa:lnstslatioA at 76th-Street and 6th Court...'t Mayor .$uarez: loot sXactly,yMargarite Were voting - r ae Ma. Shaarlt: ,All right..°the specie ;taxi g di hen-x l rs atriat - .` ttQ ' il�tyor Strai>•egi di�s.trict i ✓ Gqk ��'��`e''va V. - Mr. Plumer: Yes, but you see, we are missing a very key point. How much money is to be raised and what is it to be used for? Mr. Ayala: Mr. Mayor, Commissioners, any name is Mafiano Ayala. I lire on 751 NE 72nd Terrace. Ott, the situation is our petition includes Belle Island and Belle Meade. — Mr. Plummer: Excused me, I asked a very simple question, I would like a simple answer. Mr. Ayala: It is a special taxing district. The residents will pay through j tax, air. Mr. Plummer: How much and what is the money going for? 4 Mr. Ayala: We don't know how much until we get the resolu... Mr. Plummer: Then you can't ask me to vote on itl_ Mr. Ayala: Excuse me air, Dade County has asked us to come here ad that you give an approval so they could do the appropriate studies. We don't know how much yet, sir. We'll come back to you... Mr. Plummer: Then what is the money going to be spent for? Mr. Ayala: We'll come back to you later on asking you for the guard house , establishment that you asked this morning. Mr. Fernandez: Mr. Plummer, if I... Mr. Plummer: Excuse me, I'm sorry. Are you telling me that you went to the people.of Belle Meade without a'dollar figure and what the money was going -to y: be used for and they gave you a blank check and said proceed?' Mr. Ayala: No, air. The way Dade County requires us to get a petition of over`51 percent- before they do they do the appropriate study.. They. ask City — approval also. We need your approval today so that Dade 'County would do the _. study: At'a future'date'then`, once-the`study'is done and the figures are out, there is a resolution.Each resident of Belle Meade and Belle Meade Island will have'the opportunity to vote yes or'no on`it, OK? Mr. 'Plummer: Let this Commission reserve that right. -i Mr. Ayala: To what, air? a' Mr. Plummer: Yes. - r Mr. Ayala: Yes, you are going to give us approval, yes or no, for this taxing district. _ _. Mr. Plummer: Once in fact the` cost factor has been involved and the project' `y has been named,' does this Commission reserve the right, yes or no, ''after that taxing district has been established? Mr. Ayala: I'understand'from what you 'passed this morning, that's the way 3t.'� I s join to `be `sir ., g , yea; that' my. f� 3 h Mayor Suarez: He is asking a question and we need :to know the answer. Does the Comm ssion�then later have to yet still approve it or not Jorge? Mr, Plummer: The ably thing that'we<passed This -'morning was in, reIatipn`to guard house, which we; by the way, aro... u} ' I iyy�nr 4r <a Mayor Suarez: It is ' an enabling ordinance to `allow these to be put is t14: right of -way, ttiidt`'a arl we' passed, ;i y� t Mr, I'lununer= Sy` the way, it was expressed this mornin h the Cit Attors�g .that , - Of City property, ublip '°ri ht-of -way ' 'the Con a § ° y x p 6 Y, v ty: i not , �► l w JO to i�r�lt it�� on' Tevocals�0" PaTmit,� which is tho on] ► th og.-wo sppro�rpd morning, s� 1 right?. Nqw, I just`: don .t ,understand, maybe- it is .the lrh¢ horse,; but hQw San I sit here and say,,.Yea' You can. px+atoapp�`o s,`:. taxing district without telling me how touch money you are going to raise and what it's going to be used for. That doesn't make sense to me. Mr. Ayala: OK, air, it might not make sense, this is what Dade County has asked us, for them to continue the process of getting the guard house established, they asked for the petition to be 51 percent and for the City approval of Miami. We are asking for you to do this at this point. Mr. Plummer: Did we the City, petition by registered mail, the residents? Mr. Fernandez: No, we did not. Mr. Ayala: No. Mr. Plummer: Don't we have to? Mr. Fernandez: No, we do not. Mr. Plummer: We do not. Mr. Fernandez: This is a preliminary step that the County requires of the municipality within which they will have the special taxing district. The municipality passes a resolution approving in concept so that then Metropolitan Dade County can go ahead, conduct their studies and then fashion _ a ballot question to be put in an election in which the residents can then vote, but let me make a point clear. I think, Mr. Mayor, that this Commission has already passed a resolution, the preliminary resolution that Metropolitan Dade County requires to begin the process for the residents of Belle Meade Island. That resolution has already been passed. Mrs. Kennedy: That's what I thought. Mr. Fernandez: Now the residents of Belle Meade are coming, asking for a similar resolution, --thether that resolution is to include the entire Belle Meade area -or just include, excluding... Mayor Suarez: Wecouldstill change that, if we... Mr. Fernandez: That: is what needs to be clarified. Mrs. Kennedy: And then Mr. City Attorney, assuming both -of these' groups,get v< the resolutions passed,, they go in front of the County Commission as well as this Commission. ? '— — Mr.:Fernandez: No, they will not have to come back here if Metropolitan`Dade County,decides ;to allow or to pass a special taxing district for one guard house or for two guard houses, that is really the decision of Metropolitan Dade County. Mayor Suarez: And the matter is further complicated by the fact that two tracts are not exactly the.same. In one case they are definitely seeking a special taxing district, whether it includes the entire area or not for the taxing. It: certainly includes the entire area for.the application,.-. because' you can't -go in..any.other way, but.the-other case, I understand that•it,would be privately paid, because I don't know that they have... at least they have -; not yet come with the idea of a special taxing district just for Belle Meade fi Island, just for that particular, guard house at the entrance .of; -Belle Meade Island that I am aware of., Mr. Plummer: There is a... ; ' Mr. Aya1as':That! a what ;they are planning to do,..air Mayor Suarers But they, are planning to do than too? Mr. Rklummer:: .. Excuse, sae,., there � is , a letter'on f ile ;that .we received' -that', Aade County ,,would not, permit :two.: guard'21 : houses: That!.s on ,fi�.e._ �< ?, ��_; a Mr. Ayala: 4K, I understand they've changed their minds dince laot ti�Ae w�aan` `mod bath pe-titiOng were: introduced.- r " A r s 7-/ N q . t � � — �� Mr. Plummer: Then Y haven't received a subsequent letter to change, the opinion. Mr. Ayalas OK, I understand that sir, but what we are asking for is approval. .( Our petition includes Belle Meade Island because there are residents there that believe that one guard house at 76th Street mould serve the whole. It Mould cost them less... Mayor Suarez: But there are other residents who believe that they should have $- a right to try to have their own guard house at the entrance of Belle... s Mr. Ayalas Yes, sir, they have the right to do that, sir. We are asking... Mayor Suarers And we want to make sure that we don't impede that right if we can avoid it. Mr. Ayala: Exactly, I am in full agreement with you sir, because... Mayor Suarez: Thank you! Mr. Ayala: ... we think that the residents should then decide when the cost factors come out, we don't have the cost factors yet. Mayor Suarez: This is government by guard houses here at City Hall now. We spend all our time dealing with guard houses. Ms. Shearin: May I say one thing? Mayor,Suarez: At your own risk! Ms. .Shearin: Oh, I'll try. The residents of Belle Meade Island who want the _ guard house, are no more than 25. The residents of Belle Meade Island who eigned a petition for the guard house at 76th Street... Mayor;Suarez: At Belle Meade, Greater Belle Meade, OK. Mr, Shearin:.... Greater Belle Meade, are 29. That does not sound.:.to me like rs. it..is a,great..conflict.. There. are some people who havenever wanted theguard:, house.,.any,.place but at 76th Street. :t Mayor Suarez: Maybe, they are afraid not to .get the one, so they, figured they!d'vote.for,the other, I don.'t know.' ;r Mr. .Shearin: They, .are afraid of : what 'is, happening here, ,that._ ,the matter becomes something _like .a battle and it is not. If, you allowed us to goyto the i County, :t4i.people... Mayor Suarez: Well, I asked the question before at the other hearing, Margarita, 3,f I may.. : Ms. Shearin: OK, all right... ' Mayor Suarez: Does it really reallykill your proposal for a special taxing. r district to ,exempt, the Belle Meade Island from the district for the taxing.?; It doesn't sound like... s r. Plummer• Yes, they are trying to circumvent the two guard houses. sk`' Ms. Shearin: How, do you get to Belle Meade Island except through Belle MeadQ. —{7 �ieyor. Sua e s It'arust a mathematical calcµlation,;".'Before theyr't me thap r Y ,aJ,� it wouldmIt. really affect it, that muc that there is still,- ljp t► AFo�arties that Gould be s Mr. Ayala: ' it wouldn't sir,+ but the `thing is that put proposal innluldes theta }pfs becauuse;,thexe + e.,_ rep ideate there ,and .:the reald��tta ,9f $�110 beliet►e `that one guard house would serve `all "and then the cost fact would ba ' '7��F'' �w= mcch leae;Wlth.40� ktq see, ., ;' � �, Mp►or•Sarea I B�eoaatry, tee fall it hom¢t,ling ,llk�r rc�t�ttiueR �oA4S�t�liA�i,} �►fl0, *.e � r ff � Wn+ k63vr cs i f�a,j'i in 4Yr,'i. f1 }y 6 `� r n f �s Mr. Ayala: And we just think that if when they get their figures at Belle Mead Island, we'll get our figures and the residents can decide which guard house would better serve them, cost wise and location or both. Mayor 5uaret: or both, or both. Mr. Ayala: Or both, right. If that is what comes up... Mayor Suarez: In which case it might make more sense to have each one funded by the particular district because Belle Meade Island is a lot smaller than the entire area and that doesn't frustrate your purposes either. Mr. Ayala: Of course, yes. Mayor Suarez: Yes. Ms. Helen Grill: My name is Helen Grill, I reside at 764... Mayor Suarez: I was afraid of that. Ms. Grill: ... NE 73rd Street and there is a third opinion here, a,third side, and that is of opposition to the guard house on the Greater Belle Meade area. My husband Bob and I... Mayor Suarez: But support for the one on Belle Meade Island or support for neither? Ms. Grill: Well, I'm not here to discuss Belle Meade Island because theirs _ was already passed. We are here today for the Greater Belle Mead guard house. Mayor Suarez: You don't.want to have it at 76th Street? Ms. Grill: Yes, sir, and I have some things to say. My husband and I have lived in the northeast Miami area for the past 15 years. We have been very active;.in:civic<organizations and we feel that a guard house in our particular neighborhood of Belle Meade on NE 76th Street would not benefit our community. Our neighborhood,consists of more.than just Belle Meade.- Northeast.;Miami has .' - a new found sense of pride and team spirit and we should all work together to , improve ,-our' entire: area. We are not. speaking against the guard house for Belle Meade Island because they have worked hard to reach their goal. Belle' Meade; Island is a. very unique. case in that they ,are ,an area of only. 50 homes surrounded _by,water. ..On,the other hand,_, the., entire Belle Meade neighborhood, which: includes the island,,,. consists, of approximately.400 homes,. and area: -too large.,: to be, monitored,.effectively,by one.unarmed guard, unable to stop passing traffic on a public street. In the past our group has come before this Commission and has been encouraged by this Commission to suggest volunteer and inexpensive, answers to, our neighborhood problem. We feel a guard house on. 76th :Street would be a needless expense, would not be effective, would be �. exclusionary and elitist and would cause traffic problems at our already busy f_ intersection at.76th Street, and;Biscayne.Boulevard.; Mayor.Suarez: Can I. interrupt you for a second,,,Heien? Mr..Bob Grill: She .is almost finished. Mayor Suarez:, Aho he.stands,uP.far her .OK. r�- rZU Mr. Grill: You : got. it.-- Ms.: Grill;-.,, ,Wefeel ;that , the City- must deal , with ?the-. guard house, issue ;betcaus are,, w¢il swsys. from past experience, where Belie Meade goes. noN� other � will soon follow. Communities such as Shorecrest, Bays ids, MorniriBside'' x : City of Miami public right-of-way. Surely this would make us a greater $eiie Meade. Thank you. r Mayor Suarez: OX, what about, does anybody have any ideas on costs to each resident, typical toot to each resident, assuming the entire area, or assuming just Belle Meade, minus belle Meade Island? Ms. Shearint I've been listening to Commissioner Plummer, so I think I have the answer. If you had any figure that you can name, say $100,000 and you divide it by 400, what do you get? - j Mayor Suarez: 250. Mr. Plummer: You see, they are saying they don't want those 50 homes, so you got to divide it by 350. =i Me. Shearin: Well, all right, do it. Mayor Suarez: And does it cost $100,000, what we are talking about? fi Ms. Shearin: Yes. Suppose it is $100,000 divided by 50 homes, what do you get? i — Mayor Suarez% $100,000 divided by 50? Ms. Shearin: That's what it is going to cost the people on Belle Meade i Island. y Mr. De Yurre: I thought I graduated form high school already. _ j Mr. Plummer: Wait a minute, that's... excuse me. - i Mayor Suarez: Are we going to be tested anymore? Ms. Shearin: Pardou? Go ahead. Mr. Plummer: That's for the purposes of building the guard house. Now.. Mi.`Shearin: No. Building and maintaining it with... _ Mr. Ayala: I think we are retracting. The purpose we are here' 'is to get the, City' to"give us an ' approval. Let the residents, we got 53 percent petitions e` signed, we have more ;signatures that .still have to be turned in to'Dade' County: I'think the `residents, what they want is..: T Mayor Suarez: Don't you think the calculation'of how.much it might cost %.he residents is a worthwhile thing to put`on the`record? Mr. Ayala: There is a ballpark figure going around', but `being that Dade r_ County,still_has not done the definite study, we don't want to come out and. give out figures. We want the study to come down. ; �1= Mayor Suarez: But if it came out to the kinds of figures that ara unrealistic, we:wouldn't want to go too far in this process. Now,.dpas the - guard,, house.have to cosh $100,000, a little guard house? Mr. Ayala: Well, there is first year costs, , your know, , and Mayor, Suarez:' We`are doing 'a`mini =station up there for $70,000 or that entire. ,mini: -station. F {, t?s, Shearin: I think you `got „off on: the wrong' foot here, `' i just ,use 'that a$�6t figure.} ' 'eyor.'Suarez: Two wrong feet; actually. f r .7 lip. Shearin: All right, Lhat''s "a figure.,If you divide.: it by 50, :peapl�► aro f� cin t PaY ax cntiFc# �s thean , i Feau di�►ide it a b�► kQO;� h+� B ch MO a Q do- F ,q— b 4 Mayor Suarett But that is the concern of Belle Meade Island, not Greater Belle Mood. Greater Belle Mood only has the concern of 400 minus 50, or 3S0. Ms. Shearin:- The point is, is it affordable? Vue had a real nice talk here with Linda Gibbs. Mayor Suarez: That first year, where is the money going to come to hire the monitors? They're not guards. Mayor Suarez: How about that? How about the operating.., yes. Mr. Plummer: Where are the monies coming from the second year of the salaries, the maintenance, and the operation? Mr. Fernandez: Ongoing taxing district. Mr. Plummer: What? Mayor Suarez: Even the first year, the operations of the guard house, aside from the just the guard house. Mr. Ayala: All this would come from the taxes collected from the County from the residents of Belle Meade and Belle Meade Island. Mrs. Kennedy: Special taxing district. Mayor Suarez: Oh, so the big figure you gave us is like for the first year, which includes the building of it, and afterthat it goes down through... Mr. Ayala: 'Right, the second year it would go down. Mayor Suarez: To what? Mr. Ayala: Probably $50 per year on cost. Mayor Suarez: Vell, what would be thetotal.cost of operating it? Mr.+ Ayala-., OK,. -let's say it is $300 a year or $200 a year.-. The following year°would-be $150. Mayor Suarez: What is the total cost of operating the guard house after it's built--on:a yearly basis?r Mr. Shearin: 'It depends -on what kind of a guard -they. hire., Mayor Suarez; Give me:one, give me an estimate, please, solwo-_have::anidea.- "V Mr. Shearin: All -right, I cangiveyou an estimate;.- For Belle MeadetIsland, the most ... no, the -least , not the least expensivei the most sensible 14&ure thatwe can come up with 1; $2,000 a year added to their taxes. Mr.-Ayalat. 'Wrong. Ms. Shearin: $2,000,.Ilve got'the figures and I can prove it., Mayor Suarez: What is the cost of operating a guard house on a yearly basis','_�.', anybody know? Ms. Shoarint That's $2,000 a year.. For the residents of 400 homes be-.,$250'.&�Year, that a the difference. -5,; Mayor, Suarez e, need. the 'lobaV.1f igur balsa doll �,Z, Morgarito j: ...we as: luov, pow how:many',rosident0::,itis'going to be*divided -by* It If ryou...go. the entire area,ior justa' part of it. Mr. Paiiki. That's a. ns -part of my question Mr. Od Lo i About -14130pO00,a year.. t 310 Ints ro, Mayor, may a' a 0 I 'May a � ,,0 4hb, qf,t,,j I ams k, K _o ----- . . . . . . . . . y Mayor Suarez: let tee just see and then we'll put it into the record. saying $130,000 a year to operate the guard house once it is built? Mr. Odio: Yes, because you need seven people, see that is what they are not counting. - Mr. Ayala: It really depends on the security guard you choose, it's from $7 an hour to $15 an hour. Mayor Suarez: What figures are you assuming? Do you have a figure? Mr. Ayala: We don't have the figures, sir. Mayor Suarez: All right. — Mr. Ayala: Because Dade County has not done the study yet. Mayor Suarez: Yes,that is going to be a problem if you don't have some estimate, you know, we are going to have a tough time, but to put something on the ballot and go through this whole process, if the people, once they see the amount that it is going to cost, they're going to vote against it. That doesn't make any sense. Mr. De Pena: I'd like to clarify something. Mr. Ayala: Well, they'll chance later. -' Ms. Sylvia Tomamisa: My name is Sylvia Tomamisa. Mayor Suarez: Wait, wait, we are going to go over here first, and then we are going to get back. Ms. Tomamisa: OK. Ms. Elaina Do, -Pena OK, there is no such thing as the Greater Belle Meade'. It's either;.Belle Meade, or,Belle Meade Island. They are two separate taxing , districtsWe:have already applied, before you get a taxing, -district`you. have to get a petition and you have to have a majority. You take that to the i taxing district and if it is approved, they grant you a taxing district. Then we-come,down to°the City Commission. - Mrs...Kennedy: No,, to, the' County Commission. rt � Ms. De Pena: To The County... we have to go to the County taxing district and they give-: us, we have a letter stating that we, have- a taxing district - for Belle Meade Island'. Then we. have to come, to'youand ask for. permission to'put' }, the guard house on the right-of-way, which we did. That was the :thing. that, was passed 'this morning. According to the information we received today,. Belle Meade does not have a valid petition, therefore they do not have a . p, taxing district, therefore they cannot ask -for a taxing district:-- without approval. - of a valid petition. So, 'if, they . do not have a valid petition, we have to have a valid petition before we ask for a taxing district. y Mr. Ayala: We do have a valid petition. We have 53 percent of homeowner, residents-aigning the .petition,: Ms. De Pena:•: As of this.` afternoon you do- not have ` a:.letter ��stating must: have, a.; letter... Mayor' Suarez: Well, if it is a requirement, they'.11 have it,,:,,at th+ appropriate title, : or they won''? be able;, toproceed, . that 0a• for ,lure.=fK i= where, are. we? r This, -.:is: the . latit. statement, Ahd we ,are. going o -..hja to La�atnakat s T � Rome :pol'iicy dicisions. Yes. x Mo. Dot Pena: And One: more thing,., Mayor.., it z t '.Yes . 4 .� . , , - - �!st.Wedo,y;ioantf to be included because wa' .are a.t; eepIia►'��4tti s dstret, we already have it end we are wiring do pay for'- : - .. �distr.lCL• 'l `;:J .t Sx k +�.s ,�;�i��.Ri+f3cx�,. 1, ' — Y INBf t3! � 'gyp �.JE ,,."�j,v�.�,,.. xf-�ji�.t,.. }-r�.��t,. ::! �• t��r ., (.,.: .,, .. .. ..- ., .. .. .,.."�f.1i., Snt�`su'r.''!�ia�a�.e.:_. - _- Mayor Suarez: Belle Meade Island, you mean? Ms. De Pena: Belle Meade Island. Mayor $uarets OK. Ms. De Pena: And the figures, you want the figures? Mayor Suarez: How many homes altogether on Belle Meade island? Ms. De Pena: 52. Mayor Suarez: 52, and all together in Greater Belle Meade, if you call it that? 400? If you take theirs out, you end up with 350? Me. De Pena: They only have 348, excluding the 52 on Belle Meade Island. Mayor Suarez: OK, 350, roughly, versus 400. You, would have to pay four times what they pay if you were subsidizing a similar guard house with similar operations and you had your own and they had their own, would not include your _ district, you would have to pay four times what they pay. Ms. De Pena: The last... Mayor Suarez: Six times? I'm sorry, seven times, you are right. I wasn't right, neither were you. Ms. De Pena: But the residents of Belle Meade Island... Mayor.Suarez: Well, we're getting there though, you know, with a little bit of, . . Mr. Plummer: Wait .a minute, do, the people of Great Belle Meade realize that you.are.not going to be able to put any gates, no arms, no nothing. The only x thing that that individual is going to be able to do is copy a license tag as h` the :,car goes through. He cannot in. any way detain it, he cWt _ slow it down,' he.,can-merely monitor, if he wishes, the,make and model, color and the license_ tag. - Ms,. Shearin: The sip.e thing as for Belle Meade Island. k Mr. Plummer: Exactly, but .,I want to ,.make.sure;you understand that If in:fact we pass it `and, it is subject to our, rules and regulations.. r� Mr. De Pena: Commissioner Plummer, we are not objecting to it. As a matter of fact, we,.would help them get their gate, but, we want ours. Unidentified'Speaker: There isn't,any.gate. Ms. De 'Pena: Or what ever the they... their guard houseor whatever they want. We -have never, never fought them on it. Mr. Plummer: Monitoring station. !rt Ms.,`Tomamisa: OK, my, name is Sylvia Tomamisa and I live_ in Belle ,'Meade, r Island':- When the petition of..Belle Meade Island yeas presented here, was, a 51 j percent maj'orityr only.,,. Now we are.,'presenting a 53; percent, maorlty of3 Belle: ; Meade Island. I think that if you approve.their petition, we have to,have the same rights for you to approve ours. r Mr .Plummer: That a "f ine, and there is no problem, but that' is not what you` want.` You van t''to'includje the Belle Meade Island and they are saying, hay, we, � want , to be independent. ;. "A Pig Shearin: There are 29 . people. are for .it, r �:: � �,5� "ire � Z o.,: i, d 1Td3% tNt � Ma Tomamisa: YQ.s; because you sae, there are 29 pepple like °�nyaen $ells; 'f;rat k�Qade Island that we went the gate in loth:; Street, ;, Tho Tai'srr�� i, clued ivat"pattloatth "z is w� r ems. T L y £ r,• } r a ir3. Byer: I sea the petition, please?L`�,' 4k Ms. Tomimisa: We have given to the Mayor and the Commissioners the petitions. Mr. Plummer: Of all the major problems, I've got sit here and spend an hour on guard houses. Mrs, Kennedy: Guard houses! Mr. Plummer: 4,133 people have been robbed in the streets of Miami while I am waiting for the guard house, the monitoring station. Ms. Shearin: Commissioner Plummer, I have to tell you, we've not asking for money, though. Mayor Suarez: No, no, no. That's true, that's one good thing, Go ahead, Bob, real quick. Mr. Bob Grill: Bob Grill, same address as Helen Grill. My suggestion is that you are our City government and you put together a study, like my wife suggested, we called it a blue ribbon panel, get some folks from your staff and some folks from our neighborhood and do a study, define the terms and put the information out from the City of Miami. We've been trying to do this on a volunteer basis through the Belle Meade organization and I might add that the numbers just aren't there, 50, 51, 52 percent, I don't think that that is enough to change the existing status quo and put this bill on the backs of the taxpayers in Belle Meade. That's only my opinion. The County doesn't agree. _ The County says you can change your status quo with 50 percent, but you know you have been talking about this all morning, I've been listening to you about responsible government and too much bonds and we spend too much money. — Mr. Plummer: Do you have a separate book for Belle Meade Island? I don't see anybody in here. Mr. Grillo A fellow that lives down the street from me pays $7009- $800 ,a — year, this... `Mayor Suarez: Well, we don't necessarily spend too much, we borrow too much. The expenditures may be actually pretty good. Mr. Grill: You are going to raise some taxpayers taxes by 50 percent,.others by less, but the folks that arereallygoing to get hit hard on this;are the senior citizens on fixed income and their voices have notbeenheard. I would like to°`suggest that you gather the information, you run .the petition process, not the County, we live in the City, we look to you for that responsibility. s Thank you. se . Mayor -"Suarez: Well, I'll tell, there were some figures .thrown around..Bob, that I could never, if I thought that is what it was going to cost, I could never vote for. I mean, if I thought this was going to cost somebody $2,000 a year, there is no way, that would put out of their homes a lot of people. Mr. Plummer: It can't cost much less. Ms. Tomamisa: 52 homes, 52 homes. Mr. Plummer: Can't cost much less. It can't cost much less on Belle'Meade Island'. , The cost factor, according to the Manager and I based on a division ;.'. of 50, you are talking about a minimum of salaries alone of an excess of $2,000.s house.` „'- � s Mayor' 'Suarez: That's for Belle Meade Island, but we are not talking about--,,„1 Bella -Meade Island. We are talking.about Greater Belle Meade; r Ms. Tomamisa: And you approved it with only 51 percentage. Mayor Suarez. �. c u Mr Plummer: But the`poiBt. I'm trying to maka is the same u bersfa ` I except-what-youi are dividhg by. Ala. Sl�aarit►= fr' � } t 156 � V�� I iq't'xf} ti t ti — a ,L,atC>t,l�a.t`,.`9xg:, A Mayor Suarez: Wait, Greater Belle Meade then would have to further divine that by seven, because it is 350, to it is seven times as many homes, so.:. Ms: Sheariin: Why wouldn't you consider what we are asking, which is the _ petition which is before you, which is for Greater Belle Meade, which has 53 _ percent of the people who want it that way, for one guard house at 76th and let the voters decide? Mayor Suarez: We may be about to do that, but you are not letting everybody have their say. Mr. John Clark: Mr. Mayor and Commissioners, my name is John Clark and I live at $01 NE 75th Street. I've been in direct contact with Debora Kirkland at County office and she did send me figures based on the Keystone guard houses that were going up and upon my editing this and going over, if the Greater Belle Meade area is incorporated, it will cost approximately $300 the first year to three twenty-five, and... Mr. Plummer: No, it can't, no way. No way, I'm sorry! Mayor Suarez: Depends on how many security people you have. Mr.. Plummer: No, no, I'm sorry, let me tell you why. Let me tell you why. You are talking about roughly for the first year, $250,000 cost. =f Mayor Suarez: No way. Mr. Plummer: What do you mean? You're speaking about $100,000 to build the facility?: Mr. Clark: No, it is not that high, sir. t Mr. Plummer: Before you get finished, you are going to be at $100,000'.-You are talking about a minimum of a $105,000 salaries, I'm assuming- you,^are k; staffing it seven days a week, 24 hours a day, $105,000, when you start paying water, electricity, insurance, liability insurance is going to be high... ; Mr..Clark: The County takes care of that, sir. Mr. Plummer: ,The first... what does? ; Mr. Clark: The County. The liability, but we have to figure... Mayor Suarez: Who said there is any water hookup to the thing? Mr. Clark: There is water, there is electric. But let me just... r Mr. Plummer: Oh, you got phone... - Mr. Clark: May I finish, air, just... OK, the figures based on this... Mr. Plummer.: Well, I... based on my figures, you are closer to a reality on the first year cost, greatly reduced on the second, first year cost, $775 per house.,, 4 Mr. Clarkv But ,one ,, guard house? T z Mr..Plummer: One monitoring station, yes, sir.; Mr. Clarks One monitoring... " Mr. Plummer: For Greater Belle Meade now. a Mr. Clark; OK. - z� Mr...Plu=prs Much,.muoh.more for the people of Belle Meade Island alone - M4yor1,4uarezt ' Put -it, -this-way., ;the #figures, ; ifthey were that high; y a problem. Probably they won't be, that's any opinion, but' go ahead, tnalse }►ouX=:pras�n�tation• a ri a�� - Mr. Plummner: The 105,g00 you Azen't'getting away from, }te157 r r 5 Z- k t r!M r,- IEN ;Yf ` _ Mr. iClarkt based on what Miss Kirkland has given us the figures are between three hundred and three twenty-five for the first year, dropping to two seventy-five to three hundred the second year. Mayor Suarez: Once it is built. Nov, let me just put wrinkle... - Mr. Clark: OK, however, we cannot... Mayor Suarezt Let me put a wrinkle on that if I may. That assumea, including Belle Meade Island, right? Mr. Clarks Yes. Mayor Suarez: Now, if you exclude Belle Meade Island, you take, you increase that by a factor of about 14 percent, right? Mr. Clark: It brings it up to around four hundred, three hundred and seventy- five... Mayor Suarez: So, another $35 or so. Mr. Clark: Right. However, none of this will ever happen until we get your approval so that the County can do the study to get the exact cost, at which time a referendum will be held. All this information will go out to the public and then they will be able to vote each house within this district. Unless you pass this district, unless you pass this resolution now, everything will stop and all the private fact finding, which the County will not accept will 'be laid on the burden on the household in the area. We will have to subsidize it ourselves. To this point we have not asked for one penny from anyone': - - Mayor Suarez: OK, I will tell you for myself, and I think the Vice Mayor wants to make a 'statement, that I would support'it, but not including Belle Meade Island. I just want to tell you that. I would exclude Belle Meade Island -because they may want to do their own thing, and they may want to pay —_ for it, God knows if they want to do that with only 50 homes, that's up to them. Mr. Ayala: Mr. Mayor, but excuse me... there are many residents on Belle Meade:Island.... — Mayor Suarez: Wait, wait. I just won't vote for it with Belle Meade only. Mr. `De 'Yurre: Mr. Mayor' I think that we've got to move on. I'd dike, we may just have to give them the go ahead so that they can proceed with what they are going through-. It is going to have to come back to us anyway, then, we can have a full hearing. Mr. Dawkins: It doesn't come back. Mrs. Kennedy: We could even... Mr:`Dawkins: Well, it doesn't come back. It doesn't come back. to us. Mr. Plummer:''Well;`cant `we provide... can't we make a... Mayor =`Suarez: But the County has to approve' it and then -'a referendum' has be Mt. Plu:raner tUlait, a'minute ' 'whoa.It does 'have''to come back here. ... ,4 s ,z llr. Fernandez: For` the building: 3 Mr, Plummer. Fox1the" bui"iding to be erected:on: public right -off way it s get ,S to come back here, Yes, s' Mri, AV- ai.ai That''y aotreatthis morni,ng, All 1 {'.. i'll. u::nmmart' I �ot aAOtheY''bite •'Qf r r j•'yr r ; r t `^ fir `1 +7 a � )y,-�� Y rc �1. No. Grill: Does your ordinance this morning specifically indicate Belie Meade Island, or guard houses in the City of Mimi? Mayor Suarez: The ordinance was general, OK? Mr. Flumniers Monitoring station. Me. Grill: go therefore we would not have to come back, I mean therefore... Mayor Suarez: hell, it sound& like we are going to retain the 'right to approve the actual structure and that might be another way to have another bite at the apple. Mr. Plummer: Oh, ekeuse me... Mr. Fernandez: No, no, Mr. Mayor, the Belle Meade Island... Mr. Plummer: ... approve the structure or deny the application. Mayor Suarez: Well, it would be kind of silly at that point, but... Mr. Fernandez: The Belle Meade Island resolution when passed was passed —i subject and conditioned on the amendment to the ordinance, that would give City -vide, so Belle Meade Island, either to build the guard house will have to - - come back to the City Commission for a revocable permit, otherwise it - doesn't. Mayor Suarez: And of course we will put the same requirement on Greater Belle Meade, minus Belle Meade Island. r Mr. Fernandez: Of course, and that's the resolution that you are j contemplating right now. Mrs. Kennedy*: And the County is already working on that. a Mr. Fernandez:` I imagine. That's up to them.' Mayor' Suarez: Just keep in mind of course, Commissioner Plummer's concerns about what this might cost, which also are the Grill's concerns.' Mr. Ayala:- That's our concern also sir, because we want the study to be done, L- I agree with you. Mayor Suarez: You know, I am about to change my vote, because you interrupt # ® me every time I say something. Mr. Ayala: Sorry.; ! lrMr.`Dawkins:' Let me ask -a question, please. Mayor Suarez: Now he is interrupting. << i Mr. Dawkins: What happens if you got four... how many people you got on the island and in Belle Meade, how many? _ qqM Mr. Ayala: `402 homes in total.; Mr: Dawkins: 400? Whit 'happens ifyou put "guard` hauses" up and '100 people, a decide they are not going, to pay and they don't care and you put.. a ,lien `ctt' their` property; '' or whatever. `` How are you 'going to make up the differenca, � } what you need in order to operate? Somebody, anybody►. }7 M4, Suarez Hhat'happens in'that circumstance, Mr: Mr. Plummer. The guard house files for bankruptcy.'r= r F Mayee�Susrez: 'Mr. City 'Attorney, Mr. ,Assistant City AtLortt y, No, ,tee are note going to ask ►our. no, no, it is a tect+lol gustio s -r — �+os►ebpdy""''doesn';t� psF°'' harassessment, aft'er'tbi's p�es'thrcu the pocadgre far makittg that up, or collecting�it, flr Whatever? - r s Tr responsible. — Mayor Suarez: What if people don't pay? Mr. Dawkins: If they don't collect it, what they... no, no, see the Looney will be parceled out from collected revenue. Now, if 100 people do not pay into the kitty they are going to only parcel out what is in the kitty. Now, what do you do then, Mr. City Attorney, for the deficit? Mr. Fernandez: When real estate property owners do not pay an assessable tax In their property, the County, or the municipality, whoever receives that tax, can place a lien on the property. — Mr. Plummer: Yes, and you can collect it maybe in 20 years. Mr. Fernandez: The moment it is transferred or sold or changed hands. Mr. Plummer: Yea, I've got the answer, Mr. Mayor. We take all of the people in Greater Belle Meade and put them in the 4400 Building which is very secure... we've eliminated the problem of the 4400 Building, we've got them = all secure and we'll take the property from Belle Meadel �. Mayor Suarez: No, and then we put a guard house... OK, Commissioners, Commissioners... no, no, everyone please, quiet in the chambers. Let's go and —_ move on this. Now, we've got a proposal before us that may or may not include Belle Meade Island, it may or may not pass, but we are going to have to vote on it, because we've got other items here today. —' Mr. Plummer: I ask one question. Mayor Suarez:' Commissioner Plummer. _ = Mr. Plummer: Who is the elected representative of Belle Meade Island? Ms. De Pena: I'm right here. Mr. 'Plummer: All right, may I ask what your association, what 'their :views are? Ms. De Pena: All right, our entire... =- s, Mr. Plummer: And I'didn't know you were the' president. Ms. De Pena: Yes, right. We have, what happens, we have our figures, the .s; figures were coming to about $1,200 or below for each household on Belle Meade Island: That is added on to your taxes, so it is paid alongwitli your taxes:' Our figure may be even lower... •b Mayor Suarez: But you are talking about a•guard house on Belie Meade Island supported by the residents of Belle Meade Island. Ms. De Pena: On, the island, supported by the residents of Belle Meade s Island,.plus... Mayor Suarez: I`don't know if that is what you asked me about`. k Ms; 'Do Pezas Plus, we `don't have'the'expenses... Mr. Plummer: Madam President, would you address the issue before us., The" — t issue`, before us asks' to create a specialtaxing district` of Greaftr Belle' , —,. Meade: and Belle Meade. Island. Are you for that, are you opposed to that? E. Ms. De Pena: "I'm againat it 'because we are a separate taxing district,: — ; - representing Belle Meade Island, :a t :. p i' F � Mrt. . Plummeri Re resent in P g you peo ]e; You are.; apposed to _ Ma. De Pena$ X'm opposed to the Greater Belle Meade There is no'. such t�ia It is,"Be1la Meade Island! _or Meade: Belle ( �n�s• y'J j - L' ", Mayor Suarez: But he is asking the position of Your association. How does that square off with their argument or their statement that twenty, or more than half of the resident:... . i Ms. Tomat►isa: Yes, I live in Belle Meade Island, and 21 Belle Meade island homeowners... 29, have signed for the one in 76th Street. Mayor Suarez: is that because you managed to get a vote from your director? Ms. be Pena: That's not true because then we would not have had a valid petition. To have a valid petition, we have to have the majority. — Ms. Tomamisa: And you have only 51 percent in your valid petition. The rest of the island is against it. —, Mayor Suarez: No, no, but their petition has nothing to do with what You are doing, not directly. Indirectly, it does. — Ms. De Pena: But that's what they are talking about. Mayor Suarez: Not directly, in directly. OK, the Commissioner was asking. — Mr. Plummer: Something is wrong. There are 50 homes. They got 29 homes voting yes, and they've got 51 percent. Something is not right) Mayor Suarez: No, but they've got 51 percent for petition that would put a guard house on Belle Meade Island, not one that would reject one on Greater Belle Meade. — Ms. Tomamisa: On the island and 21 homeowners for the one on 76th. Mayor Suarez: All right, we got that squared away. However, you may have an internal problem in your association if they hear about this, I want to tell - you, because you got 29 apparently that don't agree with you. _ Mr. Plummer: This is nothing more than a prelude to barricades in Coconut Grove. Mayor Suarez: OK,, Commissioners, we've got a pretty good picture of what is_ going on`here, -I think, as much as anybody will ever have, so'we are going -to- - have to -act. — Mr. Fernandez: Mr. Mayor,point 'of clarification. Is the application now thatyouu are:considering, excluding; the Belle Meade Islands residents? Mayor Suarez: That's the only thing I will vote for. Mr. Fernandez: Do they have then the majority of the residents of Belle P Meade? Mayor Suarez: Excluding Belle Meade Island, do you have that? Mr. Fernandez: Exactly, so that they... Ms. De Pena:' No. Mayor Suarez: Well, they'll have, to before the County contemplates it, so don't worry about that. You realize that if we approvethis in principle, you f' would have to have' more than 50 percent" of the''area excluding 'Belhe ; Me,ade fK ,. Island. — Mr. Fernandez: Correct.`` Ms. Shearin;. We don't want you to approve it this. way, We where a' petit ion... Mayor Suarers `Well', you are not,; you are headed for a disapproval theyy,�sy because T. ;am not going to :include Belle Meads Island, for myself, I don} ebaut' the rest, whq would IT�`r t4r.. $hearin . How about the 29 people on Meade,' Island wl.o wand ,Belle for :Gre"titer Bella Meade? Pip ia���.�. - 4 Mayor Suarez, They sound like they want a guard house so bad they'll sign anything you put in front of them right now, I don't know. Mr. Plu,nmer: It sounds like to me they want two guard houses. Mrs. Kennedys Exactly; they want two guard houses. Ms. Shearins The Belle Meade Island Homeowners' Association barely has a majority of the residents as its members. There are people... Mr. Plummers But barely is, they have the majorityl Ms. De Pena: We have to, to get a taxing district. If we don't have the majority, we couldn't have gotten that taxing district. Mayor Suarez, Well, it sounds like one or two residents might make the difference because 51. percent... or it could even be 51 percent out of 52 homes, if doesn't work out. But anyhow, one home apparently can make the difference. Maybe, they'll go over there and lobby them and pay off or something, I don't know. Anyhow, just kidding, you know, strike that from the recordl Mr. Plummer: It's a man and his wife, divorced, living in the same house. Mayor Suarez: All right... Mr. Dawkins: You got a motion? Mayor Suarez: .. Commissioners, yes, I would entertain a motion, I would vote for a motion, rather, I don't want to make it, unless I have to, that would allow .the, process to go through excluding Belle Meade Island and then we'll be able to fight this out in the County and then, do you have a referendum at the and of all this process? Mr. Fernandez: Yes, they have. Mrs. Kennedy: They have a referendum. Mr. Fernandez: Metropolitan Dade County puts out a ballot question for them. Mayor., Suarez: I'm sure there is going to. be .posters and,ballots and it will` be like Panama all over again.. Yes. Mr. Ayala: Excuse me, Mr. Mayor, if I may, Commissioners.... May Suarez:' Wait, wait, not if you may. No, Commissioners, let's go, we are ready ,to act here.and if somebody moves that, I will move.it. Mr. Dawkins: You move it. Mayor Suarez: I move to allow you to proceed with the special taxing district, ,assuming you comply ,with all. requirements for the .area of Greater. 2 Belle Meade exc.ludfng.Belle Meade Island. If that not .the way we are supposed' z- to, call- :it, I'm sorry, I can't think of any other way. OK, so moved. rr Mrs,. Kennedy. I. second.` y W Mr. De Yurre:' OK, we have a first and a second. No further discussion? Catl' i}a: . P nitFP`•''� the,.rol � t t y( y` sky t . � a The following resolution was introduced by Mayor Suarez, who moved its adoption: RESOLUTION No. 89-454 A RESOLUTION APPROVING CREATION OF A SPECIAL TAXING - DISTRICT FOR THE BELLE MEADE AREA, EXCLUSIVE OF BELLE MEADE ISLAND, LOCATED IN THE CITY OF MIAMI IN ORDER TO PROVIDE SECURITY SERVICE, SAID SECURITY SERVICE TO INCLUDE A TWENTY-FOUR HOUR GUARD SERVICE AND THE CONSTRUCTION AND MAINTENANCE OF A CONCRETE BLOCX STRUCTURE GUARDHOUSE, AT NO COST TO THE CITY, WITHIN THE PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY AT THE ENTRANCE OF THE DISTRICT ON NORTHEAST 76TH STREET, EAST OF NORTHEAST 6TH COURT, TO BE LOCATED IN THE SWALE AREA AND NOT IN THE ROADWAY PORTION OF THE RIGHT-OF-WAY. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on — file in the Office of the City Clerk.) _ Upon being seconded by Commissioner Kennedy, the resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote: AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Commissioner Rosario Kennedy _- Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins — Vice Mayor Victor De Yurre Mayor Xavier L. Suarez NOES: None. ABSENT: None. 49. DISCUSS AND REFER TO MANAGER COMPLAINT RECEIVED REGARDING VEHICLE ACCIDENT IN PARKING LOT OF ROBERT KING TOWERS HOUSING PROJECT. Mayor Suarez: Item 49, Dr. Vega. Why would we contemplate a vehicular accident that took place in Robert King High Towers Housing Project? Mr. Dawkins: That's Miller Dawkins' item. Mayor Suarez: Oh, Commissioner, can we solve'this quickly? S Mr. Dawkins: I hope so. This gentlemen's automobile, Mr. Manager, was hit in the.. ,S Mr. Odio: Robert King High Towers. Mr. Dawkins: This gentlemen's automobile was hit, he says during the ttise r when we had the Pig Bowl game and he has called everyone and no one seems to accept the.fact that his automobile was hit. So I told him the only way we can get this resolved was for him to come before the Commission and this Commission would direct the Manager to work, with him and find out what , happened and come back and report back to us at the next meeting. Mayor Suarez: Let me just put in the' record that I have been gives r ter. s ,photographs of a pretty old Dodge or Plymouth Swinger....._ - Mr. Roman H. Lucas: Dodge Dart Swinger. HayorSudseaea OK,., vhoh0e ase ,talking about 'joae ;aar� that's -my wiole d- ,This .,thing, : even if it was in great shape,_ and if it' had" never Lees. _b Mr. Plummer: Whit is the City's liability? s. Mr, Cdios This is inside the parking lot of Robert Ming High. Mr. Dawkins: All I know is that even if it... Mr. Plummer: What is the City's liability? Mr. Dawkinas Even if it has no tires and no wheels... that gentleman, that is his transportation and we should take under consideration that he... s- - at' May Suarez: Which is his car? Is it the Dodge or is it the... Mr. Lucas: I'm the Dodge Dart Swinger. a. Mayor Suarez: Dodge Dart Swinger. Mr. Enrique Vega: Is one of our first tenants, president of the board. Mayor Suarez: I'm not sure what that has to do with anything, but OK, we've determined that it is the... what year is your car, was your car? Mr. Lucas: It's 1972. Mr. Plummer: Where was the City negligent in this.action? Mr.- Dawkins: That `is'what the Manager should find out. _ Mr. Odio: What I found out is we donated to this organization and old vehicle and whoever was driving that vehicle inside the Robert King High Towers hit ` this ,car. We have a release from the tenants when we gave them the car, that we were not liable for anything, so, that's it. Mr. Plummer: So.that ends it. Mr. Fernandez: Correct. f Mr:'Dawki"ns: I told .you let the Manager, I told you to send him "to -the— Manager. 14— Mr. Lucas: I didn't have to sign any release: r Mayor Suarez: Dr. Vega, if you are going to speak, you, are going"to have to.:' a move microphone. Dr. Vega, if you are going -to speak, you are gaing',to have to use'the microphone, sir. .-. .. t ' r Mrs. Kennedy: 'Could somebody tell me how the`City`is involved in; this? Ron? Mr. Plummer: Where'was.the City negligent? Mr. Lucas: A City of Miami Police Department van hit my car while it was G'h parked''in 'front of 1405 NW 7th Street, on the far side. Mrs. Kennedy:, That's not what we were told. Mr. Plummer: ,Ian that... did you make a report of it?SNS x4 g ' Y, Mr. Lucas: I certainly did and it was sent to Tallahassee. Y°r�J _ Mir. Mummers t Da we have an accident report stating that it was'.a City, vehlcle'=,jjh+f� that `hint your' f — Mr♦ Lucas; "' How could you 'get"'`that, in. other. words, ; if the Police .DeparttseDY:r wi117 .apt: aCOA►6 3}+ai}t po¢, idenLlfY.' n�ny ,Pa;L�:cul+ar `situdtc, _.. observatiansT r _ t a��►or :`.Sum.r`a :' I goess7 'we don'.t acknowleidga_ xhat tk e ppll 4'. �ajr ps Ice vaA hit it; .is that :th pole pratiem? y't:�Y � i c {+` ; � #a '. r. , dd'. •� a r % j ✓ t3 b T� :.s iy ,.,,5 Mr. P1umtRoati Did youcsIl.;the pplico'` to` mska °a ,'report? ��°� '� l i L 3 %1f yfyY�zg t� t2t 4t Y r� s4• Mr: Lucas, I certainly did and I got what you would tell a badgering type of _ situation. I mean a real badgering type situation. Mayor Suartat Do you have that license plate of the police van that hit it? Were you able to... Mr. Lucas: There are two particular items on this. There is a Saturday and ; there was also a Friday. I know that the police van was there on Friday. On Saturday, when this took place, in other words, there is two sides to the car, it is -almost as though it was hit on one side and it came back another day and it hit on the other side. Mayor Suarez: To complete the job. Mr. Lucas: That's the type situation involved. Mr. Plummert But sir, we've got to have... Mr. Lucas: That might sound ridiculous but that's the way it was. Mayor Suarez: Well, it's conceivable. Mr. Plummer: We, the Commission have to have some proof. Mr. Fernandez: Mr. Mayor, the Risk Management Division claims we have investigated, we have looked into this, this is wholly and totally without merit. We don't know if there is nothing that we can base any kind of investigation on other than allegations and hearsay, no corroboration, no police report... Mr. Plummer: No independent witness. Mr. Lucas; You will say that the fact is by the pictures that you saw, that _ — there was an accident. — s Mayor Suarez: Well, there is definitely an accident. Mr.` `Plummer: Well, I can't say there was an accident, I "am saying, there is - damage to the car by the pictures which I see, whether it came about by an accident or not, I don't know. YP Mayor Suarez: Otherwise, it was just so rusted that it just kind of fell 'apart.a o Mr. Odio: If a City van had hit that, the van would not have moved, it would have been reported. Mr. Lucas: What do you have to have, in other words, an officer? 'Mayor Suarez: Just to clarify something, what about the citation? What does_ that have to do with this? Who owns that car? <1= Mr. Lucas: I do. w Mrs. Kennedy: Mr. Mayor, let me just get the record straight here. Are you, saying that a police van did this to your car? k Mr. Lucas: Yes, I am.�r Mrs Kennedy: A police van?' Mr. Lucas: A police van, Police Department van. J1a� Mrs —Kennedy: OK, I am just asking, INAUDIBLE BACKGROUND COMMENTS NOT ENTERED INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD. °Hayor Suarez: Dx. Vega, `please some up to the'micrQphoae, `on►e �:Wp t ��'' =' = mike a r f�x� Ylk� tiij -�r �c�ri die i►e. a; - _ _ � ,. � �v � � � �� 6#� ie -a ditsgustAg�u warn yux aslary... r� 165 D V a and you forget the elderly people that are suffering the abuses of the police. Mr. Fernandez: Do you hear that, Mr. Mayor? _ Dr. Vega: There! and I am going to say something that you are going to enjoy. You don't know anything because you are sitting down here in air conditioning sometimes getting the gripes of the people and sometimes diverting ourselves. I must tell you, this is true. I don't care that this gentlemen newly appointed in this position can justify his salary. The truth is this... Mayor Suarez: No, no, not you, I don't think. Yes, I've seen the pictures. Dr. Vegas And please, don't try to get my microphone like that time... 71 Mayor Suarez: Dr. Vega, make your statement quickly. _ Dr. Vega: My name is Enrique Vega. I am a resident of Robert King High, 1403 NW nth Street. I am president of the United Tenant's Council, vice president of all the federation of all the residents of Dade County Housing. On the night of January 14th, the Pig Bowl Game, that before used to be between Miami Police Department and Metro, this time join both police forces, both teams against, the Los Angeles police. Then the game was played and at the,end, as is natural in the bowl games, the van, the police van, which we recognize very well, because normally have been going there, and it was full, of.: not uniformed,.. officers, the ones that we easily recognize, so this.van came, the people came, about seven officers, seven young men came there and no doubt that they had been drinking and the driver drank so much that he left the mark in the pavement. Then were so... Mr. Plummer: But wait a minute. Mr.;Vega: When they hit... Mr:. ,Plummer: Dr. .Vega, I'm. sorry, I cannot let you stand there and make an — observation as fact that the officer was drunk and make that statement without anybody refuting it.. Now,,•if-you say that in your opinion:.. LL a Mr. Vega: Well, you were not there but we were there. Mr. Plummer: In your opinion you think, but don't make a flat out statement that an officer was driving that car... Mr. Vega: Yes, what happened that three of the officer, to the... Mayor Suarez: Well, he hasn't said which officer, so it isn't really... Mr. Vega: ... to the... Mr. Plummer: But it's an allegations. Mr. Vega: to the three elderly., persons that were sitting down,.there,:-whey; said... F r, Mayor ,Suarez:. Yes, but it!s a general allegation. Mr. Vega: ,.. don't=say a;word you.know use.,So they were threatening therm Mayor Suarez:, . Oh,, y.ou had ,.a eonversation,vIth the after the, accident? Mr. Vega:. I, beg ;your.: pardon? Mayor Suarez: Did you -.have a conversation with them.right.after the`.accidpnt? 4h, ;.: it :.was•, a ;:.long, , long., .. this gentleman tried., to contaeb': the z, police. The Metro Police knew.what happened, .but did not.want then wanted-' 4 rovsr...tte.<Ptor o'iPex^r ; WhAt:"they_ had, what'tthey did is this the}► Della the van was in such.. a bad condition., in the" front that they call dew do yt►l eall: it�F° ; tows g ArVck01ASAPP axed ;:the proof. x Mayor Suareze OK, Doctor, we have a general idea of what .took place. I think the Commissions... Mr. Vegas Nov, the only thing is... Mayor Suarez: Wait. Mr. Vega: The only County Commissioner, we called your office five times to each one of your offices we can... of the secretary wanted details. We did not give any details, we wanted to talk with you or each one of the Commissioner only... Mayor Suarez: You wanted to come directly. Mr. Vega: ... when Miller Dawkins went there, we explained to him and he said, "Well, we can do something." Of this... Mayor Suarez: But see, this... Mr. Vega: ... of this old cars that we have and everybody every year we sell, we can give one to the men... Mayor Suarez: Doctor, stop, stop, stop. Mayon Suarez: Commissioner Dawkins and this Commission can instruct the Manager to have Internal Security in the Police Department fully investigate it and get back to us. There may be ways, for example, that you can establish that there's a high likelihood that this happened as you state including, of course, your own testimony if you saw it. If you had conversations with the police officers afterwards, if you can remember any names, and the fact that = at the Pig Bowl there were presumably many cars parked in that general vicinity. Maybe there were a lot of cars parked over there. I don't know. Mr. Vega:,, We don't want - the police officers - to be punished, that is the problem. Mayor Suarez: Fine, you just want the money. a Mr. Vega: What we want is that this man can get the only transportation he T has. Mayor , Suarez: OK, we'.re going to investigate and we may be able to, duo: �— something.` Lt. Joseph Longueira: Wait a minute. f Mr. Odio: OK, wait, Joe, Joe, we'll investigate it. ' Lt. Longueira: Yes, but... iA Mr.t Vega. W011 investigate it. Don't try to push.because you. -get me` -tired all the time. Mr.' Odio: Let me tell you something, if an officer, like any other citizen... r Mayon Suarez:Well, Joe, if it can be established that somebody hit the., car, then there may be some disciplinary proceed 7, iw Mr. Odio: ran away from a scene of an .accident, they will be,prunished i' Mayor Suarez: Right how ;we don't even hive any nam! s 2�, Mr: Odio: That !e `rights F4 — Mayor '-Suarez: Xou know.. t 3X tr,`°.I:ucas: Here�is the thing... SLY NAUAIAI;E- CQIMANT$�TOT `ELATED INTO'H& `'AUBLIC .RECORD, 5 a layQr $uaez: W¢'rar'`going to 'aye Internal Security'iveati$atie it. r # t �r ri��'„ic �F�xw ,rr�A"HIa — Mr. Vega: Let us trust the City Mayor because the County Mayor is suspended and all the Commissioners are indicted and it's going to be a new County Manager and new Commissioners appointed. Mayor Suarez: All right, let me let me strike from the record... Mr. Dawkins: So we're next, huh? Mayor Suarez: ... all of that. Mr. Dawkins: So we're next, huh? Mr. Vega: I think if this Commission really represented the people, we don't want to fight, but if you want to fight we are fighters. 1'k Mayor Suarez: Doctor Vega, you are very much out of order. Mr. Vega:- And listen, I'm going to fight you. Mayor Suarez: In fact you just set an all time record for being out of order. OK, bye, Dr. Vega, thank you, sir. I mean.,. — Mr. Vega: All right. I trust all of you. I trust all of you. Mayor Suarez, Yes. Mr. Vega: And we believe and he wanted,to sue. He had a lawyer, he wanted to sue, Mayor Suarez: He may have to do that. Mr. Vega: Sue no, we have friends, let us... Mayor Suarez: OK, thank you, thank you, thank you, bye-bye. Mr.. -Vega: Yes, yes. Listen, before I kill you:.. Mayor Suarez: That's"it, that's.it, Doctor,,thank you, sir._ -:Mr._ Vega:, All, right.. 50. :::_CONSTIITUTE:A NORTHEAST AREA ASIAN VILLAGE COMMITTEE - Appoint members..* Mayor .Suarez: :OK, next item. Item 51. 'Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, may I inquire I would like, if it's possible, I informed you earlier, I had to leave at 6:30. I would like to hear, which I .-think most of the people are here for on the 4400 Building. . -(Applause) Mr. Jim Angleton: I yield item 51 to the 4400 Building. - a. Mr --,Plummer: Well, I need to hear the 4400 because I've gat to `.walk out of here, Jim, it 6:30. , c .,Mayor- Suarez: OK, we've got almost all the other items f lg -1 taken 'care, of. want `to yield, we can• take that up,: OK, does anybody have any .prpblem with; the 'appointment;. of a torn-n►ember• comitGee to .study .the As:ian.rYillagey Mr. P.lummere Who are: the members of the committee?. 5 . zA I* : `., :.' • saga � _;. Mayor Suarez. By us. - 1 Y� .f> A -t f 19}ri �y5 Mr Plummer: We now, appoint, tale Commission. z'n� 'Mrs. Kenaedy: Oh, OK, all right, - , t�7 * xa'�yQ, �y 4 Mayor Suarez: Well, you don't have any suggestions as to specific names at this point, do youl Mrs. Kennedy: What number is this? Mayor Suarez: You kind of prefabricate this whole thing, right? You have it already cooked up, all we do is just put the icing on it. INAUDIBLE COMMENTS NOT ENTERED INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD. Mayor Suarez: It's seven from the Asian Federation, three from the Chamber of Commerce. I have no problem, unless anybody else does with... Mr. De Yurre: Do you have names already? Mayor Suarez: Yes, he's got the names. Mr. Plummer: No, the... Mayor Suarez: All right... Mr. Plummer: Yes, they got all seven members named. Mr. Odio: Mr. Mayor, do you want me to make a presentation and decide them or what? The building? Mayor Suarez: Well, right now he's trying to get this item done very quickly here which was before the other one and it just about gets us to it anyhow. Anybody have any problems with creating the committee? Mr. Plummer: Well, who's going to name the other three? Mayor:Suarez: The three other ones are who? That you're suggesting. Who are they, Jim? Tell us who they are, tell usl Three names, who are they? INAUDIBLE COMMENTS NOT ENTERED INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD. Mayor Suarez: OK. Right. I figured you were one of the other three. OK, Jim Angleton, Pat Clauson and Jim Meyers. All these people are active in this matter. Why don't you use the mike, please. You're reminding me of: Dr. .Vega now. Mr. Jim Angleton: Yea, we have proposed - I'm Jim Angleton, president of the Greater Biscayne Boulevard Chamber of- Commerce. `We're requesting our chamber, =' together- with the Asian Federation, which is to respectfully request the Commission to appoint a 10-member Asian`Village Committee: That. Committee's` function wouldbe to: promote and °develop the Asian °Vil'lage. We believe Miami's Asian Village would be Miami's'finest tourist and cultural attraction when completed. Your vote today for this Committee is a vote for progress. Thank you. Mayor Suarez: Beautiful. Any Commissioner have any problem? Mr. Plummer: I have only a.question, Mr. Mayor. Mayor Suarez:' ".Yes.::. Mr. Plummer: Where here it says it mandates... rho; Mayor Suarezu. Recommends ,::instead of mandates, is that... advises, proposes ... Mr. .Plummer: Yes, there's no mandate as.far as 61 I,know. This is the possible $ craat'ioa, .not" a,mandato . of the 'thing, % fi �f Mr. Anglietow- .OK,� ,strike mandate please. Mayor; Suarez: Recommends. f Mr, I Plummer: With a recommendation to develop. µ.r Aogieto Mr. Plummer: ... not at mandate. Mr. Angleton' 'Yee. Yes, Commiskioner. Mr. Plummer: That to noted, Madam Clerk? Can I ask why a merchant in that area, Mr. Louis Luke, is not included in this? Mrs. Kennedy: I was just going to mention Louis Luke. Mr. Angleton: It's at your pleasure. You can appoint anyone you'd like. Mrs. Kennedy: 'Yes, let's... Mr. Plummer: I would want to see Louis Luke added to that committee. Mr. Angletone There's also a lady here today named Judy Clark from Belle Meade Island. She'd like to be on the committee, if we could include her name. Mayor Suarez: We're up to twelve. Anybody else? Mr. Plummer: Yes, I had also liked to add the name of Fernando Muy. Mayor Suarez: Up to 13. Mr. Angleton: Told you. Mayor Suarez: This is going to be one of the most active committees in the history of the City. OK?With those additions, Commissioners, I'll -entertain . a motion. `Mrs:' Kennedy: Moved. Move it. Mayor Suarez: Moved. Mr. Plummer: Yes. Mayor Suarez: Second. Call the roll. The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Kennedy, who r moved its adoption: 6, RESOLUTION NO 89-455 A RESOLUTION CREATING THE "ASIAN VILLAGE COMMITTEE"; �x APPOINTING THIRTEEN INDIVIDUALS TO SERVE ON SAID COMMITTEE; SETTING FORTH THE PURPOSE AND FUNCTION. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)' Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote: 'AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Commissioner Rosario Kennedy - Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins Vice'Mayor :Victor De Yurre r p Mayor Xavier L. Suarez NOES: None. fi � ABSOT None. ' �Nr. Angjpton: .1hank::you. _ 1 � , . ma r r .{ YrYYwrr�i+..Yrrriw�.�WirY.'+iYwrrrYrrrrr---+rrrrrrrYrrYrrrrrYrr-r +rrrirrrrYYrY rr1riY�W Yw 51, GRANT REQUEST BY MUSCULAR DYSTROPHY ASSOCIATION Waive user fee for a ,._ City park, use of the Shombbile and rental of bleachers. .rY-ir--s-W.YirY-r-Y rY.►-.r--:r-irrrriii.r----------iYrriiYilt_'C Mayor Suarez, I just wanted to ask if there was anybody here on behalf of the Muscular Dystrophy Association. Mr. Plummer: What is the Riverfront Hall? Mrs. Kennedy: That's at the Knight Center. Mr. Odio: That's the Knight Center. _ Mr. Richard Wegan: Thank you, my name is Richard Wegan, I represent the Muscular Dystrophy Association. Mr. Plummer: We can't waive it. — Mr. Odio: I know that. - Mr. Wegan: We are requesting that the fee for a portion of the Riverfront Hall at the"J. L. Knight Center be waived for the Labor Day Telethon. Last... i Mayor Suarez: We can't do that. I don't think we can do that. So, if you want to try for the Bed Race closing of streets whatever you need for that. Mr. Wegan: Oh, OK, well I think that's already been addressed. With regard . to the... - Mayor Suarez: And I don't think we're going to waive any fees if what you mean by that is the fees for City services. Mr. Wegan: Actually, I just meant the fee for the park rental. — Mayor Suarez: That I think we usually do waive. Mr. Odio: They are requesting $14,419 in which parks rent... ?v,s r Mayor Suarez: Mr.` Manager, we're down to the fee for the use of the park. Mr. Wegan- Right, the use..: Mr. Odio-::`That's what I was going to break down, the park fees are $1220. Mr. Wegan: Right. Mr'. Plummer: And we have no money. :;7} Mr. Odio: And then you'have event supervisors which adds up to $1,500.' k_ Mayor Suarez: `OK, you know my policy... Mr. Wegan: Excuse me, excuse me, excuse me, we're not asking for the waiver of labor fees or anything like that. -,Suarez: Right, that's g. what I want to clarify, the only thing that .Mayoris the` park atv '., "conceivably to be done here is to waive for the payment. of the' -use of:, itself if, ` in fact, the park was not. going to be used that day for 'spsne ,other:'£:, Pluiniuer: And' howch is that.?' Mr. = Mr. Wegan: Actually, Mayor, very minimal; $300 for the park rental.=. Mr. P1umm-er: How, much? z 't Mr. Megan: Throe hundred dollara. e.: }, -, a , • ;'E u r a a r s ar a' #` $' �sT`4 mr. O¢to: '.�.'welyehundred and Meaty , dollars. }rli y}R• — Lr — ,i •. Mr. Wegan: Or excuse me, I may have the wrong... OK... Mr. Plummer: You're coming to ask us for a total waiver of $220? Mayor Suarez: Well, he was coming with a lot more, but I've sort of hinted to ;- him, suggested to him that we don't waive the other stuff any more, we've got " a policy that we don't. Mr. Wegan: Right, we were asking for more but now I realize that things like f labor are not going to be waived so I would just like to - since I am here to request that the waiver of the park fee... Mayor Suarez: The waiver of the fee for the use of the park. Mr. Wegan: ... also the rental fee for the Showmobile which is very minimal as well. Mr. Odio: That's $120.00. Mr. Wegan: ... and the bleacher fee, for rental of City bleachers. — Mr. Odio: It's $1220. Mrs. Kennedy: What is the total? Mayor Suarez: Total of $1220 in those three items. Mrs. Kennedy: Move it. Mayor Suarez: It's wear and tear but, I mean, it's not... Mr. Wegan: OK. - Mayor -Suarez:; Moved. Mr. Wegan.-,'Thank you. Mayor Suarez:. Wait, _haven't "voted on it yet. We don't even have a'second Yet. — Mr. De Yurre: Second. Mayor Suarez: Seconded. Any discussion on that? Call... ® Mr. Plummer:. What about the labor cost to set up and tear down the bleachers? Mr. Wegan: No. Mr. Odio: That'll pay for them. Mrs. Kennedy: They're responsible for that. Mr. Plummer: What? Mr. Wegan:,. -I guess. T Mr. Plummer:, But.. when +'• you waiva .' : _..at cost.: figure is An, that,, right?.-, • ' a Mayor Suarez: Was it in there when you added up to twelve hundred?� s • ..:. - Mr Odio..-_,Twelve hundred and twenty, no. 47,r:' Mr..,: Planar; Mr. , Ma or I'll ,:'tell ou vhat I I ll,' S► , .. y - v e_ on. A. t xo R Qt eMoecd a thousand dollars. .�laver� 4 Mayo, r5!l8rez QK. y - s Fz° �;#rs.acpep that,, r ayor.;Pius�cq : :Call the -oi rl. I'm sorry, does the s�coAd accep�4 �x tha roll • (, � `f 7 Jx��fi �M. _ r r � ♦j♦j 22 M The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved its adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 0-456 A RESOLUTION WAIVING UP TO $1,000 IN RENTAL AND USER FEES IN SUPPORT OF THE MUSCULAR DYSTROPHY ASSOCIATION, INC. COCONUT GROVE BED RACE, TO BE HELD IN PEACOCK AND MEYERS PARKS ON MAY 21, 1989, SUBJECT TO SUCH CONDITIONS AND LIMITATIONS AS MAY BE PRESCRIBED BY THE CITY OF MIAMI. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Commissioner Kennedy, the resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote: AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Commissioner Rosario Kennedy Commissioner Miller Dawkins Vice Mayor Victor De Yurre Mayor Xavier L. Suarez NOES: None ABSENT: None. Mayor Suarez: The reason, by the way, if you need a rationale, which is fairly obvious that we're strapped. Mr. Weagan: I understand the rationale. Mayor Suarez: The reason is if we spend a lot of money from the City to promote a` charity which is then going to give money. to some worthy, cause, sometimes it might just be easier for us to go ahead and give that money, to thati. Of course, we don't have that money either, so I don't even know why I said that. 52. A) EMERGENCY ORDINANCE: Establish special revenue fund: "1989 Budweiser Regatta" Appropriate $63,000... B) "1989 BUDWEISER UNLIMITED HYDROPLANE REGATTA" - Execute agreement with Anheuser-Busch, Inc., - for sponsorship of the event to be: held at Miami Marine Stadium. _--_--_--_---__------------ --------- --- Mr., Plummer:` Mr. Mayor, can I 'take care of this now because, as I said,:, I have to*leave'at 6:30. Mayor Suarez: Yes. Mr. Plummer: And I apologize to the Commission that they're :putting us +� through �so damn' much' book work. NY THEREUPON, COMMISSIONER PLUMMER READ THE ORDINANCE=_INTO THE PUBLIC `RECORD, BY TITLE ONLY. Mayox Suarez: ' ='And; of t caurse,A 'we're violating our owr z'vi60 and a11. Hof t at F s Y Mr. 'lumer: No; this money 's%not':from the City. s r4r, a Suarez: 'No, 1. mean,� as , to, taking up_ the item.' Pill . - j�':: t ,,• s r t ,� 1 _;. rsJ,KenDady: . under `b0 :items. 4 �f4h 473 r <. fM� yyjjr�gg�S!}dw r} v. Mr. Pium mers 'Wall; i got to get it, or tell me and I'll tall the race off. 1 _ mean, to me this... — Mr. Dawkins: Call it off. Mrs. Kennedy: Second. Mr. Dawkins: Call it off. Mr. Pluttmnert This is 'ridiculous. Mr. be Yurret Second to tall it off? OK. Mr. Dawkins: Call it off. Mayor Suarez: OK... Mr. De Yurre: All in favor... Mayor Suarez: ... we have a resolution, do we have a motion? Mrs. Kennedy: He moved it, I seconded. Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded. Any discussion? Call the roll. AT THIS POINT, THE CITY CLERK BEGINS TO CALL THE ROLL, BUT THE ROLL CALL WAS INTERRUPTED BY THE FOLLOWING COMMENTS, THUS MAKING IT INCOMPLETE. Mr. Dawkins: Call it off. Yes. Mr. De Yurre: Last meeting, you spent fifteen minutes after-9:00 o'clock _ deliberating... Mayor Suarez:; Arguing... - Ms. Hirai: Excuse'me... AT THIS POINT, COMMISSIONER PLUMMER READS RESOLUTION a 89-457`INTO''THE RECORD. Mr.: De Yurre: Yes, I'll vote yes. Well, is that a second one?, - Mr. Plummer: > I ;so, move. Mrs: -Kennedy: Second. Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded. Now.r. x' Mr. Plummer: They can take this boat race next year and run it up their main r channel: Mayor Suarez: I can take the fact that you `violated our policies.after you, pushed for them the last Commission meeting. I can take that, but what I want,' to know is how come this race every year never is on the agenda regularly. scheduled. It's always a last minute item. Is this something you and Manager cook up or what? Mr. -Odios It aas on the ag:..�' Mr. Plummer:Exactly what I,would Pike to -know. }� — Mr., Odio: No, I'll tell yoU why: It was an the a ends... g Mayor Suarezi x I never re:i►smber =voting on this ,as a regular. item. It"s alwa�►s N ;r , an e1aargency last" thing that. the. boat race is not go#ng to go an, to d et tP a- bead. the; ret3Oluticn r ;mot tv� �! Odi.at I't bras an the agenda :of next week, of P1ann�ing snd ZaniuB �d it atructed us7 to: put11' all items that are regular'" items' Pram' that g 44 i/ 4 J4� v�bi�.{,r }+ Psr ' Tt <T`� £.'#rt {y': } r➢_ ,r 'P �. � 1 .,J"t°,r t 5'�y. �''S��f. I' -W 2 7 4 f t { A �§gyp'* f� i �'r v'� :t h.'�i��-1 �o if # ' "4°3M1� �✓ � 5^ H p ' Mr Dawkins: Why wasn't it on the agenda before that? Mr. Odio: It was on the agenda. Mr. Jorge Fernandez: Mr. Mayor. Mayor Suarez: OK, call the roll. Mr. Fernandez: For the ordinance that was read, that was an emergency ordinance and you need two roll calls on that one. Ms. Hirai: Yes. Mr. Fernandez: lastly read. Then, separately, you need a vote on the resolution that was Ms. Hirai: May I please take the roll call on the emergency now? Mayor Suarez: Yes. Mr. Fernandez: Please do. AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED AN EMERGENCY ORDINANCE ESTABLISHING A SPECIAL REVENUE _ FUND ENTITLED "1989 BUDWEISER REGATTA" AND APPROPRIATING FUNDS FOR SAME IN THE AMOUNT OF $63,000 FROM A. $50,000 GRANT FROM METROPOLITAN DADE COUNTY _ TOURIST. DEVELOPMENT TAX REVENUES FOR THE PURPOSE OF ti PROMOTING AND PRODUCING THE -19TH ANNUAL BUDWEISER UNLIMITED HYDROPLANE REGATTA TO BE HELD JUNE 2, 3 AND 4, J989r AT THE MARINE . STADIUM, FROM A .$9,000 CONTRIBUTION, FROM THE MIAMI SPORTS AND EXHIBITION, AUTHORITY FOR RENTAL.OF CRANES FOR SAID EVENT, FROM A $2,.000 CONTRIBUTION FROM ANHEUSER-BUSCH, INC. FOR OUTDOOR ADVERTISING FOR SAID EVENT; AND FROM�A $2,000.: CONTRIBUTION FROM EAGLE, BRANDS; INC. FOR --;.PROMOTING SAID EVENT;- CONTAINING A: REPEALER PROVISION AND SEVERABILITY CLAUSE. Was introduced by Commissioner Plummer .and seconded by Commissioner r wr Kennedy, for adoption as an emergency measure and dispensing with the requirement `of, 1reading -same on two separate days,, which was as to by,the following votes AYES:Commissioner J.. L. Plummer, Jr. Commissioner Rosario_ Kennedy Commissioner Miller Dawkins Vice.Mayor Victor De Yurre Ir Mayor Xavier L. Suarez rv% r NOES: None. ABSENT: None. 'Whereupon the Commission on motion of Commissioner Plummerand seconded by Commiss,11oner Kennedy, adopted said ordinance by the following voterjr� AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer,.Jr. Commissioner Rosario Kennedy y Commissioner Miller Dawkins *: Vice Mayor Victor De YurreR. Mayor Xavier L. Suarez xr - - ." NOES: None. t �d —'ABSENTj Noneq. -. . i SAID ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED'ORDINANCE`NOr,10506. Tl�p Cixy.: �►tto,rney. road the. ordinance into the: publiccesQrrD+f's' ahnobcad-i►at Copies were ava.labl; t4 tha me;nbara ''off t#� Gityorri4iaei0li,j;. itp ��ie publio f 1 r � t .r�..---3`.�,E.rxe .... Sri:, �...r' '' .. �.. .. -.. ,- ........ ..... t..-, ._..-•Y._.z.. e.,a;._kx.�,. ... `t 3 r }p } Ms. Hirai: Now the roll call on the emergency. The following resolution was int:-,%duced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved its adoptions RESOLUTION NO. 89-457 A RESOLUTION CONCERNING THE 1989 BUDWEISER UNLIMITED HYDROPLANE REGATTA TO BE CONDUCTED BY THE CITY JUNE 2- 4, 1989 AT THE MIAMI MARINE STADIUM, MORE PARTICULARLY: A) AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE AN AGREEMENT, IN A FORM ACCEPTABLE TO THE CITY ATTORNEY, BETWEEN THE CITY OF MIAMI AND ANHEUSER- BUSCH, INC. FOR SPONSORSHIP ASSISTANCE FOR SAID EVENT; B) AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE AN AGREEMENT, IN A FORM ACCEPTABLE TO THE CITY ATTORNEY, BETWEEN THE CITY OF MIAMI AND VOLUME SERVICES, INC. FOR THE OPERATION OF CONCESSIONS DURING SAID EVENT; C) AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ESTABLISH A CONCESSIONS FEE OF $1,500 TO BE CHARGED EACH CONCESSIONAIRE SELLING NOVELTY MERCHANDISE RELATING TO HYDROPLANES COMPETING IN SAID EVENT; D) AUTHORIZING THE PROVISION OF HOSPITALITY TENT SPACES BY THE CITY ON THE GROUNDS OF SAID STADIUM ON A FIRST -COME, FIRST - SERVE BASIS TO INTERESTED PARTIES AT A COST OF $5,000 PER TENT SPACE; E) AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE OF PERMITS IN SUBSTANTIALLY THE ATTACHED FORM, FOR THE USE OF SAID TENT SPACES; F) AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO _- NEGOTIATE WITH INTERESTED PARTIES FOR THE RIGHT TO PROMOTE` ITS PRODUCTS AT SAID EVENT FOR A FEE - COMPARABLE TO THOSE FEES WINSTON HAS PAID AT OTHER RACE SITES; G) FURTHER AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ISSUE UP TO 850 COMPLEMENTARY TICKETS, EXCLUSIVE OF AUTHORIZED MEDIA REPRESENTATIVES,- TO SAID EVENT FOR THE PURPOSE OF PROMOTING THE CITY OF MIAMI, 'ITS' FACILITIES AND EVENTS; H) AUTHORIZING PAYMENT TO FLORIDA'--INBOARD RACING CLUB` FOR THE PROVISION° OF — - CRANES AND A SALVAGE BOAT NEEDED FOR SAID EVENT'IN-AN - AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $10,700. (Here follows body of resolution,'omitted here and on,. F. — file in the Office of the City Clerk.) =_ Upon being seconded by Commissioner Kennedy, the::resolution,was passed and adopted by the following vote: AYES:. Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. ' Commissioner Rosario Kennedy Commissioner Miller Dawkins Vice Mayor Victor De Yurre Mayor Xavier L. Suarez NOES: None. ABSENT: None. r m q q - Y k F � S .., 17614$`4p�p� f �•+s,gJ S f Jde �_r'�. x x�} r,'�. „1 - r.-i—'` f. d5 � ;;2`j,.s.ef Fri: • - .-e... ' S3. A. CITY MANAGER TO NEGOTIATE POSSIBLE LEASE WITH OPTION TO BUY: 4400 Biscayne Boulevard as proposed Administration Building. B. ADMINISTRATION BUILDING PHASE II - suspend process for selection of architects and engineers. Mayor Suarez: Forty-four hundred building. Mr. De Yurre: Before we get to the forty-four... Mrs. Kennedy: Finally, your dayl - Mayor Suarez: Ohhhh, Mr. Vice Mayor, no, forty-four hundred building. Mr. Michael Kosnitzky: We ready? Well, with all the Northeast Miami events _ today, perhaps the proper location for City Hall should be Biscayne Boulevard, Northeast Miami. Mr. Mayor, members of the City Commission, Mr. City Manager, my name is Michael Kosnitzky, I'm here today representing the Greater Biscayne Boulevard Chamber of Commerce, Northeast umbrella group. I'm here today to ask you to vote in favor of the 4400 Building as location for the new City Administration Building, phase II. . Members of the Commission, ladies and gentlemen, these Miamians out here today speak with one voice on this issue. - They also stand or they fall on this issue. This City is at a crossroads. Either we embark on a policy of redevelopment and fairness in North Miami - Northeast Miami, or we continue a policy of stagnation and alienation. The path we now take is entirely within your hands. Please allow me, as succinctly as possible, to state to you what I believe to be the important considerations when analyzing this very, very important, in fact, historic, - choice. First of all,,I believe,.locational considerations and I think it can be,.fairly said that government center location is an excellent.location'for.,an administration building. It's close to Metrorail and Metromover, I don!t,have to tell.you that. It's also located in the downtown core. But quite frankly, _ the'Biscayne Boulevard location at 44th Street is also an excellent location. It's prominently located on_Biscayne. Boulevard and it's well traveled by our '- bus routes. It's probably the most traveled street in all of South Florida in terms of., bus transportation. In fact, by utilizing,the 4400 Buildingras:the site of the administration building, we will, in support our; troubled .fact, bus ,system.. People will utilize it to come to Commission meetings :or to;go - there to_work. Also, the building is close to I-95, 195, and 112, exit ramps, - the Julia Tuttle Causeway located at 36th Street and also obviously, the Biscayne Boulevard intersection of N.E. 36th Street and 54th Street ,al very:. = actively traveled routes. It's also within two.miles,of .the.location of the- . proposed site of the Omni Metromover extension. In fact, there's been some thought to have a shuttle bus run from the Omni Venetia area to the new building or, in fact,. from the phase I. administration building in govexn:aent. center to the phase II building on 44th Street. Parking.... , Mayor Suarez: And I knew I had to interrupt you, I knew the. Angleton family was going to show up here in force and en masse but to bring a little baby, like that, that is,highly unfair. UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER:. Whatever it takes. Mr. Kosnitzky: The. comment from a fellow member of the bar, Mr. Mayor- is that you're a trial lawyer and you -would do the same thing. t Mayor -Suarez: Three generations of Angleton$ and we have to -listen Mr. Plummer: Yes, but he brings five. �n Mayor Suerek Go ahead, Michael. Mr Kosnitzky:' The parking) situation yis also something you need to cons,ldex.3a�' [.nques tonabl _ t y, tha .4OQ $uildug has the best parking of the two "C.ho currently at issue. Thera ar'e 500'enclosed elevator accessed attached 10to s eta ou P r F liil u P . ,,. ��, r garage tk�xough either ,.a visitor rk n or for arki,ng ;for �.�z��` p ople';that are working in'the bui'lci,ing, `you' pull into ghat your gar,{. you. Jo. yQur, door r`nd:aay :. cipvato�cthi- �ut;t�►fy#usxofice`;'or t4' the.chsrnbprs.= I aright -add that go Qrnm test } 1 r M 117 • 4 location would, in all probability, require the building of a new parking garage at a cost between two and three million dollars and, by the way, is nowhere mentioned +- well, it is mentioned, but it's only mentioned in _ passing in the Manager's report. Mayor. Suarezt Let me ask the Manager about that. What - are we convinced that we would have to have a or herb, or whatever... Mr. Odiot No, sir, Mayor Suarezt ... a parking, a new parking structure? Mr. Odiot But we did take the numbers into consideration too. Mayor Suarez: That's not the question... Mr. Odiot We have not... s, Mayor Suarez: ... would we have to build a parking garage over there to —_ accommodate the new cars from the new... — Mr. Odiot No, air. — Mr. Herb Baileyt Are you asking a question as to what... go ahead. Mr. Odio: Go ahead, go ahead. Mr. Bailey: I'm sorry, Mr. Mayor, but I didn't quite hear all of the question. _ Mayor Suarez: See, I don't want to get into, the issue of how much it would cost or anything like.that. I. just want to know if we were going to build the new administration building with the parameters that we talked about in the government. center right next to the existing building, would we not have to build parking to go with it? And if... r Mr. Bailey: We have sufficient parking there. Mr.. Plummer: Wait a minute,;wait a minute. Where.. -do you, have,sufficlent parking for,;450 employees: when you're eliminating the iwhere. we're ;parking presently i200 police =.cars .and: Annie• Adker wants; thet':City, pound ; out;<of .there. Where.are:you::going to put those people? Mr.,: Bailey; We have under I-95, which is already meteredand measured off and; marked, off substantial- number of parking spaces ;and' we also 'have .garage number five. Mr. :Plummer; They're not available to you, metered parking for employee parking. Mr. Bailey: No, we... Mr. Plummer: You got 451 additional employees you're bringing in. Mr. Bailey: We also have garage number five there, Commissioner, Mr. Plummert Herb,.the questfon is.., Mr. Odio: Excuse me.. !!r ;. Plummer.c .. you ; brought up:tbefore. to add,, tv additional. Mr' Odios ..And .we.r:havp ;that considered 'in the repprt� s M�c� P�umtgert ....was 2:n�lljion, dollars. "cal"ctl 0010., thRt .0948id@TAd. Mrt, 1'lumraer.:.� Wail' llthat,'s_.Wh�tt::I think: the 'ra ;bssiAp :,if G Y "r • 4 j fO i a s ,+� a , 'had t x z..,: .rf 'r... y �k' fl' .�'t „±Ts 'r y �f ^`', Q4 s 3 Q;:` l�ul.ld ,two ,floors, w4QQk tbos�e ` astneid@ration of Z, to 3' Mill Jon dollars. 4 r 2> � . 1 .0 � �a31A•' R}: f Mr. Plummer: I don't think you can - you can't adequately handle what you've _ got down there now. You're going to be eliminating one parking full block almost and you got 01 more people. Mrs, Rennedy: The cost of building a new garage would be between a million eight and two million dollars, but if you say.... Mr. Odio: We won't need a new garage. Mr. Plummer: Counselor, can we stipulate for the record, that that is a good location, that is a magnificent building. Let's talk to the nuts and bolts of the deal of the building. Mr. Kosnitzky: Fine. You're asking me to speak to the nuts and bolts of the building or the... Mr. Plummer: The proposal of the nuts and bolts of the building.' Mr. De Yurre: How many nails? Mr. Plummer:" The terms of the contract... Mayor Suarez: Thank you. Mr. Kosnitzky: The terms of the contract. As I understand, the terms of the contract... Mayor Suarez: The economic aspects of the situation. Mr. Kosnitzky: are two and a half years of free rent and a million and a halUin buildout. But there is... Mr. Plummer: That's not free rent, that's deferred rent. Mayor Suarez: Don't use terminology either, Michael'- please: Mr.Kosnitzky: 'In all fairness, Mr. Commissioner, I'm not going to be speaking to those issues but there is an accountant and an appraiser that will be here' tonight speaking to' those issues and analyzing that report. If you'd like, chat with them now, I'll be .,.. � happy to put them on. But that was not: what"I`was going to speak to you tonight about.` ` Mayor 'Suarez OK, the one and a half million that you mentioned for t2ie Y buildout, for the record, you mean in leasehold improvement allowance, t"i t what° you're saying? Mr' Kosnitzky: Yes:" Mr. Plummer: No, no, no. What they're propos... Mayor Suarez: What is a million and a half? Mrs.'Kennedy: Yes,' tenant improvements. - Mr. Kosnitzky: A million and a half is for buildout. It's for chambers, if 4 you decide to build one 'or for buildingthe partitions that you need, " :For , y building` --anything else you need, buildout for day care center, anything.- of �a that., nature. Mayor"r Suarei if i' ll' 'have ' to adidit, `you probably don't need to do, a 1pt leasehold improvements to that building, I mean, unless' you „had a tot ll different layout or sd ething because it's" in; very"good sh`apb r ...� �- 3 f b� Or. Co$nitzkys „With your pettipission, I wi.l? be happy to stipulate, for th$ S z record; that' it ', a ' f ime building; 'Out:" there` aro'l `ecime, `gtlier' factors 'that `I �ti �'` iike to put into the record if ,you don't .mind, r� ..' '* '�'- a✓ -k [ - - s, .i Fp• 'i &x . w �' . uy i�.;�i{ a r`r a§;�. Y r L r,S ' - r, tisy`Qr 'Su a`rezt tine already`` said ' it "`and t�oboilY disagreed'with-,. hlm'_� _ ti�ink we, all agrae it's a .fideuildigt ii>You want to ropaat!:ou�rso.l that x�� ,hut }easens'°the chanced we' 11 `vote foir,you`,, s 41 17 8 t 3 Mr. De Yurre: You know, Mr. Mayor... Mrs. Kennedy: Mike, let we just put on the record that the owner has Indicated that he's willing to sit down with our staff and negotiate a lease purchase agreement. So, Mr. Mayor, it this point, the beat thing we can do is to direct the City administration... (Applause) Mayor Suarez: Wait, wait, wait, wait.... what do we have, a setup here? I haven't even heard what she's saying and you guys are clapping already. Nov, now.... Mrs. Kennedy: On cue. Mayor Suarez: Please, Madam Commissioner, you were saying? Mrs. Kennedy: To direct the City administration, I guess specifically, Mr. Herb Bailey, to sit down and negotiate the best deal for the City with the owner. Ed Gilman, Esq.: Mr. Mayor, if I might... (Applause) Mr. Gilman: Excuse me, my name's Ed Gilman and I'm here representing the Miami General Downtown Developers, Inc. Right now, as you all know, because you've had a proposal in front of you for about a week. w. Mayor Suarez: I'm sorry, counselor, is that Miami General... Mr. Gilman: General Downtown Developers, Inc. Mayor 'Suarez: Is that a... Mr.. Gilman: This is a joint venture between General Electric`, which is the fix: parent company of NBC, which currently owns channel 4 and a developer locally, down here John Forte... 7a; Mr. De::Yurre: Ed, are you a registered lobbyist? x, j� Mr. Gilman:. Yes, I am, for that particular firm. The location we're talking. about is between 3rd and Sth Street and North Miami Avenue and 1st Avenue. And really,. I'm, talking about three major points here and one is -the. $ commitment that you all as a Commission have made to the citizens of Miami ;and., the private sector. And you, Mr. Vice Mayor, to remind -you, -publicly -taken -la leadership position on the consolidation of -government :services mand; solidifying that area, the downtown core area, -the area that borders Overtown, r` I don't think that you can dismiss that and go to 4400 Biscayne right off 6e bat. - . N q. Ma or Suarez: Oh b _ y , y the way, whenever I spoke about consolidation,' Imeant consolidating our City facilities, not to consolidate, necessarily, in somethingcalled .the government .center...:, - �, " 'r• Mr. Gilman: That•s fine. � �f j P7ur' Mayor Suarez: All right.* Mr. Kosnitzky: No, but he's off base because we're going to talk about,thq� 4400 Building. I mean, -this is:not fair. _. _ F ——Ow Mr. Gilman: That • a f ine. What I'm talking about is an area. though vhch you've ��already'-got; 'A��number=,of 1 _ Mayor S arez: But you were, quotipg us `,or maybe the'�Vicer-Mayor, Mr. Gilmans Well, I understand the' and I am saying That• the: Vice may Qr hoe�r taken as ieadershl osition in that. -.The, nwpber ;two. P� Mr,' K+�sisitzky; ;sA"t` it our furto,-be x tnr R S r� , Z- \ Mayor Suarez: Wait, wait, no, no, no, no.... Mr. Gilman: The number two, the number two... Mayor Suarez: We can go anyway on this, but he's speaking right now. Mr. Gilman: The second point I'd like to make is that this is not necessarily the beat economic deal you can do. First of all, you're talking about taking off the tax rolls a half million dollars that this building, currently, today, is giving to you in City monies. Mr. Plummer: That's not true. Mr. Gilman: Well, I don't know about that. That's what's in their proposal. Mr. Plummer: Let me tell you why it's not true. Mr. Gilman: Tell me. Mr. Plummer: The lease which I read... Mr. Gilman: Yes. - Mr. Plummer: ... it says that the City still has to pay the county and school board taxes so, as far as the City is concerned, it's off the tax rolls... Mr. Gilman: That's what I'm talking about. Mr. Plummer: ..._because we don't pay ourselves. But according to what we saw - I saw - in the lease, the City would still be responsible to pay the county and the -school board taxes. Mr. Gilman: So, not only.are you taking monies away from your coffers, you're - _ also forcing yourself to have more monies going out. ox'= Mayor, Suarez: :All, right, let me.clarify that, let me clarify that... r. Gilman: But,,more importantly, our building,. our building,: will, bring... Mayor Suarez: ...._let me clarify that, please. Mr...Gilman: ,OK." Mr. Kosnitzkys Mr.. Mayor, I'd like the. floor..; .' Mayor Suarez: Are you saying, Michael, that part of your proposal is that as to the county tax - assuming we just lease with option to buy or just lease - that. we would have to pay the-county.and school board _taxes. T1 f, Mr. Kosnitzky: That's my understanding, Mr. Mayor. r�. Mr. Plummer: That's in the proposal a Mr. Kosnitzky: That',a why.I'd like to finish my presentation, if I might. I - had the floor and maybe some of this is redundant, but I'd still like to get it., in the; record. One of ,the things I,would speak to on that point, :Mr, Mayor, and members of the Commission,'is that one of the things that 'needs toy" ,be considered,. is ,thst ;when you. bring developmeu_ t, to an area, yes, it is, t that will be off the tax roll at least with respect to those other two Msyor,. Suarez; .. That.*_ all wanted, just,.by way of claxi icati " ' But, how much is that right now, county and schoolboar d taxes .on tke-buildin8?, r. P1r.�iuim►ez. T M ,; heir tAta� ta�Fes.sre roihiy three fiftyu 4r� ,n Mayer S:1ar�tzi R ins thr efour,.K i llt T %i h S t5 �YTR l=F 7YSiY. �# sty.. four, you takeQa�mty, sled soh+�Ql Bc►rd ;�� y u'acg alk ng_;bQnt 20Q OQO for them. or, fPlummp � t ' yy V{, 1" : A 1 , } �. 1p.. S, ♦ {�- wlsiff�or SVA' BZ: lAp^OK'* z. z#j� _Xl YMl,j I}�1�M porp .,hap 1kii�it, +yM 2!.TYil�N.•M�llr.l, OM shI�d_�i'si-rt c _ es.-. . F +. r• � ::b to 7 .t�*" �. .r�,r�, �Yk1�7°'`�L }i��'�Yi.' _ ` F J - y'`i� Mr. Gilfl:ans Right, now. Our building, which would in the neighborhood of 400,000 square feet, would add at least $800,000 to the City tax rolls. That's number two+ And number three... Mayor Suarez: How does it do that? Mr. Gilman: I'm sorry? Mayor Suarez: How does it do that? Mr. Gilman: How does it do that? Well, if you go ahead and take the amount, the value of the building, and you look at - and we're talking about using some tax increment as far as that area's concerned because it is a tract. 1 _ know Commissioner Dawkins has said that that's not necessarily Overtown, but what we call it is the gateway to Overtown. Mr. Kosnitzky: This man is not on the agenda. Mr. Gilman: Because it borders right on it. Mr. Kosnitzky: Mr. Mayor, this is not fair. Mr. Gilman: It is an area... i. Mayor Suarez: Let him complete, it's not going to kill us to hear of another idea. Mr. Kosnitzky: .Please, go sit down. Mr. Gilman: I'm sorry? , Mayor Suarez: Go ahead, go ahead. Mr. Gilman: The way that we figured the numbers, it does come out in the area of $800000. Idon't have a specific, number for you. Mayor,Suarez: That's assuming:we build a building on this property and the... j. ' Mr..Gilmans ::You don't build the.: building,- we build they building. Mayor Suarez: OK. Mr.;.Gilmand -You just lease 150,000'a uare feet from us. r Mayor Suarez: We,just pay for the building.:. Mr. Gilman: No, you don't pay for the _building. We pay for the... GB's going to finance the whole deal. All right? You're talking about... 'f Mayor Suarez: But we pay for the occupancy...` Mr. Gilman: ... $15.00 approximately and that's a high number, I would think, -r triple net, I'm talking about all costs included. Mayor.,Suarezt And by the way, aren't :you still no...,., Mr. Gilman. Wero talking about a long term lease.' }f.r Mayor Suarez Aren't you still negotiating Y y g g with the Off -Street.` Parkings Authority � for these ; famous;-Vashington Heights p> oject` on this? �{ Y Mz. Gilmans t', All right, i'11 tell' you:=this. At,this!.point;.° that hap cosge ,into - k � play aid there will b ei as far as the parkinu structure is:concerns,d,,;;which ie xy�a� somewhere-4n:the:4oighborhood�ofrs thousand plus parki�ag spices, there will be a foundation` built so that in the event' that one day a hotel facility;ueed$ to �- ba . builb, it> can be :Duilt. _ ag Mayor Suarez: aut you+ge;abandene¢, otherwise?' t , x9a'f Mrs. Gilman: CHI ha+va _ n't s abanteaned: ;anyhsady,.y ufthat�ex. aS1�g} % - a�g . ►au Q key uz so g0 ,t ape. Y is�"3'`'r�' i> 02 t t Cr _— " Mr. Kosnitrky: Mr. 'Mayor... Mr. Gilman: So that we can make a proper presentation... Mr. Odio: May I... Mr. Gilman: to you, to the DDA board, to the Off Street Parking Board to that we can go ahead and make sure that you have all of the available options In front of you, not just automatically because they bring a hundred people here to go to &400. Look it, it's a beautiful building. Mayor Suarez: We;!, that wouldn't be, believe me, that wouldn't be the reason and the implication that we would do it just because a bunch of people were here is one that is not going to get you very far with this Commission. Mr. Plummer: Mr. Mayor... Mr. Gilman: I understand that but my point is, is that it is a'beautiful building. Mr. Odio: May I say... Mr. Gilman: We do agree that that area needs to be economically shot in the arm... Mayor Suarez: So far we agree on two things. Mr. Gilman: ... but we think that you should utilize your resources to go ahead and try to find private sector tenant for that building. Mr. Plummer: Can we stick to the agenda? Mayor Suarez: OK. UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: He's out of order. Mr. Kosnitzky: Yes,'I'd like to stick to the agenda too. t4'. Mayor -Suarez: Wait A minute! OK, Commissioner, I hear you that he:was going k to''summarize`and complete and he -just has done that:' Mr. "Plummer'i " But he'sout of place at this paiticular'point.'` The item on the. _d agenda 'is °'discussion of the -4400"Building. ..' {' Mr. Gilman: And that's what:40ie discussing. - Mr. Plummers ... not the downtown building. Mayor.Suarez: Sir, I don't want you... (Applause) Mayor 'Suarez: Let'me warn 'you now because -I've been 'chairing this,meet'ing up to',now and I don't appreciate your.. -interrupting at that 'point when Commissioner's speaking,`and he's," trying to say that 'you're' out °of "order lid it F`'x s t + is. So, don't be out`of order an more, , please'. _ Mr; Gilman: I apologize Uk �} NONEMayor Suarez: All"right, now, Commissioner:' r "w Plununers `Even thou h we went to school ` our brother Ad I. ' .. Mr_ Gilman: ' Sarry, .Co mmissioner-:'= - firs Adios � ay IQ* HayAr1 Suare,Zi lr Maniger Qd�.: `� � � re any.: t p < The �st�idy that vse did' An tMs�44Ap BuIlding> �Ie�rlyx ,yp ai'r 3ersas d� pr' the . CIty -aa ,w long term; Y�'ssi�s, OVA" bui}ding, ie got a= good economic dsci:�ion for the Cit of HM Mayor Suareat OK, tell us about that. Why not? Mr: Odiot Because you're talking about - he's saying fifteen, let's use this one for example. Fifteen dollars.... Mayor Suarezt No, no, let's not. Let's use that one because that's the one that is really before us, that's the they request. Mr. Odiot The amount of rent you're going to pay for the building on a 25- year lease, versus what the cost of our building would be and the payment of the debt service, would - or 20 year lease - would be a differential of 412 million dollars; from twelve to sixteen million dollars in net cash... Mayor Suarez: That assumes that we would build a building without any additional parking downtown. Mr. Odio: That is correct. Even when you take the parking, and I have this In the report on page 20, it would come to a 10 million dollar differential anyway. Mayor Suarez: Over 20 years. Or roughly half a million a year. Mr. Odio: Yes, sir. So, what I'm saying is, I guess so we can put this to —_w rest, we're getting offers everyday of leases that we should not lease. If - we're going to go on a long term solution for the City of Miami administration building, that definitely a lease should not be considered. Mr. Kosnitzky: Mr. Mayor... Mayor 'Suarez: Michael. Mr. Kosnitzky: Can I get back to my presentation? There will be people up here. Mr. De Yurre: Hold it, hold it, Michael, hold it a second. Mayor Suarez: Mr. Vice Mayor. Mr. De Yurre: Just so that the record is clear, I am not in favor of the City - - owning -a' -building -and I think that what we got to deal with is'>the issue which is consolidation. Consolidation means, you know, getting our act together that sometimes I don't know what department is in what part of the City or what building because we just don't know that. INAUDIBLE COMMENTS NOT ENTERED INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD. Mayor Suarez: Please, please doctor. Mr. De Yurre: Now, if we're talking about consolidation and this is a viable possibility, I think that, and I think that there's a motion on the floor, 'Y towards working out the best'deal available is, far as this is concerned'. Then vie get the expertise of the administration on whatever the, best' deal, can be:, A recommendation and we take all the factors into consideration. Personally, hf I've said it before and I'll say it again, I think that, you know, we can make 31. a great impact in the Overtown area and but that does not mean that, you know, . nothings going to' happen in.-Overtown then we look to another possibility: Right now, we have the City Attorney's office that has to renew its r �r Right now.. we have also the Computer Department that has to -renew its leaser x And those are things that need to be addressed now. Can we..wait two years or .; three --years. or'whatever for a" building to be .built?..: Meanwhile; ; I'� don?t° know. INAUDIBLE COMMENTS NOT ENTERED INTO THE,PUBLIC` RECORD. j. Mayor, Suarez; ' Please`, please,-please, please. Mr. Ko$pits�ky: 10ne'`point - l"{1t Hr Ite�Yuruei Mold' i.t,A hold lt�':=bold 'it,' hold it', holds it. How, .lf ,thoxs�n+s Motion on the ii0her Kennedy,fox that': Clty Admi�t`let ;ati ''t ' +end " e�ovld `also ='add 'that, -.the - City.. Attorney $ of dice f get involved iz� �in�rkinB .,, eut this whatever proposed lease agreement, lease and option Qf the:. W i 1841er Y a 4 v r r �, i kY y 1 r -7t • . - tr � 4 s fin �1 - ,r be worked out, as far as purchase is concerned that it be done and be brought back, i guess, at the next general meeting with the best deal available. Mrs. Kennedy: At the next Commission meeting a month from now. Mr. De Yurre: And either we accept it or we reject it or modify it and decide we, you know, fish or cut bait. Mr. Kosnitzky: That's right. Mr. Dawkins: And the I intend... (Applause) Mr. Dawkinst I agree with everything that's been said... Mr. Plummer: That's the best out. Mr. Dawkins: ... but I'm going to tell you that I've said constantly and I will say it tomorrow. I'm in favor of the building, I'm in favor of the City of Miami owning the building, I will not cast a vote to lease it unless you _ lease it with an option to buy. Mr'. De Yurre: That's fine. Mr. Kosnitzkyt No problem. (Applause) Mr. Dawkins: I do not`see any reason for us to lease the building and pay for it and the owner still own it. Mr. Bailey: A point of clarification, Commissioner, please, I'd like to`ask`a question based on the last two statements and the motion that Commissioner Kennedy made. Mayor, Suarez: By the way, have you seconded that? Mr. De Yurre: Well, I'll second... Mayor Suarez: Oh, you're trying to figure out if that's what she moved. Mr. De Yurre: Well, I think if that's what she's saying, I'll second that. d Mrs. Kennedy: That is exactly what I'm saying. ® Mr. De Yurre: I'm seconding that. Mayor'-Suarez:All right, so we have a motion and a second fairly, well " understood. OK, Herb. - Mr:, Bailey. All right,. the,first question is when we talk'about consolidation and'we, at the administration, consider total consolidation, do you mean than that includes the City Commission and their quarters and City Hail chamber , along with the administration? Mr. Plummer: This vote says no. sF;- Mayor Suarez`:: Let �me. right. Mr: Baileys • That` deterlaines how we negotiate the deal' and A dei tox* now, wW r, type of`spaee we're looking �4t as' 3t `relates to what has been'•offe'red'hand is'��: `very: crucial='point` #or! us. And let me explain. , . Nk b Mr: Plumaaers I' don't want `tio `cove. to ofi,x �Y z: Mr, De Yurre: You negotiate.., Mayor S�ieregr NQ`, for every- possble'reaaan'` in the world .thaV,I,aanh I [`++cold think not the City )fall. It would end up driving this, I think, beyond what ri -r T - I �t r t,•, a " +'1.R ✓ :. �: c 4. =L • ')'t'cYYr'""�.d a:_ rif1+ ,b4:f . tii ZS..— 2 fir. Mr. Bailey: Well, let roe sort of point out... Mrs. Kennedy: We talked about leaving City Hall here where it is, Herb. Mr: Dawkins: Hold it, vhy should f then have my Commission office at 4400 Biscayne Boulevard and have a Commission meeting down here and my staff is of Biscayne Boulevard? Mrs. Kennedyt No, your office will be here. Mr. Kosnitzky: Mr. Mayor, can I make a recommendation? Mr. Dawkins= No... Mayor Suarez: No, wait, wait, wait, Mike, wait, wait. Mr. Bailey: No, before you... I would like to finish. Mayor Suarez: Yes, so... - Mr. Bailey: I'd like to make a couple of points under discussion. Mayor Suarez: Yes, but we're trying to answer your question and if we don't act, you know, with one head, you know, there's five of us here. Mr. Bailey: All right. Mayor Suarez: For myself, I would not include the Commission Chambers or the Commissioners' offices. Whether the Manager's office might make sense to move or not, that kind of really is up to the Manager's recommendation. — Mr. Bailey: That's going to be quite inconvenient when the Commission is going to have to need to be in touch with the Manager on a constant basis and we're at forty he is at 4400 and then you're here. Mayor Suarez: Well that may... yes... `k- Mr. Kosnitzky: Why don't you do it on the ? Mr. De Yurre: Herb, work out numbers with and without. Mayor Suarez: Yes, work out numbers with or without. - Mrs. .Kennedy: Both ways. SEEMS Mr. Kosnitzky: Right, do it in the alternative. Mr. Baileys OK, I understand now, let me finish my questions. I got another, because I Reed - go ahead, Cesar. A: Mr. Odic: On consolidation, if you move every office to 4400, you would still Xy have only 55 percent of the City there because you would have the other part at the adminis...._ Mayor .Suarez: Fifty-five percent of the . City? Nowhere near 55 �- y percent of the'City, Mr. Manager. Mr. Odio� The rest would-be at the Adiainistration Building and °the Moverncaent - Center` and ' the Police Department." try Mayor Suarez: And you've, got all the Fire Department buildings, you'v$ Splid 'Wastes as `` a- separate entity, you've ' got 'alb 'tile Police' ''Department buildings; nowhere'nsar 55 percent. Anyhow.., hM Mir OdiosIf you vrant` cgAaolidation, Mr. Mayor, the only place is aeist tQ; other wilding x ayor Sun rot But you specified a parameter to ups of 450 employees out t li Ca` A i cent: So hQW .did you you? get to 55 .percent .�f _� mad►'asks ":: f ���� su i.' Mr* Plummer: YOU want_ consolidation, vote for Metre. sr { ,s ..- _.. .... ." Mr. Bailey: I'm only just trying to clarify... Mayor Suarez: No, no, wait, wait, because I'm going to get an answer for this now because, otherwise, we're really confusing the matter. Well, how do you get to 5S percents Mr. Manager, unless you're going to start moving police officers which is a thousand fifty of them, firefighters which is like 600 and some and Solid Waste employees which is another seven hundred. You've got more than half of the City employees. Mr. Odio: You're talking about administrative people, you have the Law Department, you have Computer... Mayor Suarez: Are you saying 55 percent of the non police, solid waste, and fire. Thank you. Mr. Bailey: The other consideration, Mr. Mayor, is the determination as to whether you prefer, as a Commission, to lease or to buy. That determines as to how we negotiate... I've heard two... Mayor Suarez: OK, we've got two different opinions on that, Herb, today, from the Commission. We've got one that doesn't want to buy and one that does want to buy. Now, we're going to have to maybe.... Mr. De Yurre: Lease with an option. Mrs. Kennedy: Lease with an option to buy. Mayor Suarez: The one that is willing to lease with an option to buy and kind of embraces both. I don't know, I haven't heard from Commissioner Dawkins whether he has any problems with the lease with option to buy. Mr. De Yurre: Well, he said he'd... he said he was OK with that? Mr. Dawkins: I don't care how you buy it, let's buy it. Mr. Bailey: We can do an analysis: on both scenarios and bring it'back'and<see so'we-can "show you what the differences are: Mr. Plummer: Yes, but Herb... Mayor•Suarez: That's what we're trying to decide today with it. Mr. Plummer: Herb, I cannot accept terminology on the purchase at fair market value. Mr. Baileys We understand that. Mr. Plummers OK? It's got to be a specified number. ' Mr.`Baileys I understand. I just need to know... a. Mr. Odib: We would have to know. Mayor Suarez: And, of course, and the negotiations with the lease with option£` to buy, you have to negotiate how much of the lease payments are going to `. reducethe principle ' in , case 'of a purchase'. We! re not just 'going to � be- paying - 1 rent :and rent' and rent -and have the entire purchase price Still be owed.` � whenever we decide to buy it. r Mr: Odivs And`,` also,-'willtha owners be willing"to sell the building outright to us at a 'fairprice"now? Mr. De - Y'urre` . Well,�� checkthatout. Mayor Suarez; Han that been considered as to 4400 Building? Mr. Odio; That's.not what we were considering. �ry Mrs Kennedy: Sit down and work it out with him then i..n 107sf �4�►'' 1�! ,���'� s�� max" Mr. baileyi We will take all options into consideration. I just need to know specifically. The most crucial point here is the consolidation of the Commission office with the Manager's office and I think we ought to really think about that. Mr. Dawkins: Well, I want my office moved to 4400. (Applause) Mr. Dawkins: And overlook Biscayne Bay. — (Applause) Mr. Plummers There went the top two floors. Mrs. Kennedy: Don't get greedy, OK? Mayor Suarez: Unless you want to take a vote on it, maybe we can let him handle both options, I don't know how you want to handle that. Mr. Bailey: One other matter, Commissioner, Mayor, is the matter of the City „. Hall Chambers. That is also a consideration that has to be weighed in terms of what we do with the building, there is some retrofitting that has to be done and there's a cost associated with it. Nov, do you to prefer to have City Hall Chambers at the building or down here? Mr. Plummer: Speaking for myself, here. Mayor Suarez: Yes, I think there's... Mr. Bailey: I already know your answer. Mayor Suarez: ... three votes to keep City Hall here for sure, Herb,','and >` probably three votes to keep City Hall and the Commissioners and Mayor's' office here. But, if you want it stated on the record, I'll tell you that I'd R 'like to keep both my office and City Hall here and I can tell you all the reasons, but... so, maybe you ought to just look at it without City Hall. Now,' the` Manager's office," I` think, could be considered. I don't know, that's;': something that the two of... Mr. Plummer: I think it's important that the Manager should be in.the same building with the' Commission. We have ` too ', much `daily contact with the j Manager: Mayor: Suarez: We have one here that says he never sees him. 1}_ Mr. Dawkins: 'The Manager and I will go to 4400. Mayor Suarez: I think you ought to consider the Manager possibly being in a building with most of his administrative employees if we ever get, that many there.' - That's, just my idea. Mr. Plummers I thought we had too many now. v'N Mr: Kosnitzkys It's consistent... - `;- y5 His Kennedy ybut o me, that would make the 'excuse me that would make ti.e '- ,. consider both options so that we're sure. °. F" Mayor Suarez`:' OK. All right, with that understanding, now we have..* s}otion N . that says we are to analyze the best possible deal to be gbtaitted if we sere �R to° go ":to {t2ie 4400 Buldi»g": for` 'at 'least' :the %4§Q administrative contemplated and'pgss"ibly the `Manager's "office« and'.`%poss�} 'S »!t '`' a vffiae,' but 'not Citq' bell; not the Chambers, ornot even cthe Gommissiopr,sa+ y'�x office i Mra. Kennedy K"lght, '-correct. Mr Kosi�itateq: One ather='th'ng �lr , Dawki»s # Orio . Commia419410-r i kse'p' ! Mayor Suarez: One Commissioner's office, one Commissioner's office. Mr. Dawkins: ... office goes. Yes, I want you to understand that. Mr. Kosnitzky: Mr. Mayor, one other thing. Mayor Suarez: And give him a nice view, please. Yes. Mr. Kosnitzky: Mr. Mayor, we would - who will be doing this analysis and who will be sitting down with use Mr. Dawkins: We don't know, that's the Manager's job. - Mayor Suarez: Oh, we don't tell him that, we don't tell him that. The Manager has to decide that. Who ever he has on staff, I guess Herb's been doing a lot of the analysis and he will lead the evaluation. Now, I have to _ tell you this, Michael, I've heard, and one of the things that makes me, in addition to location and in addition to the condition of the building, that makes me like this possibility is that I thought I heard that at one point we may get three years of waiver of payment of rent and if that's the case, I just want to put on the record that I've heard that being mentioned at some point. Mr. Plummer: Well, let me make sure of one thing. Herb Bailey, when you're dealing, you're dealing directly with the owner. Mr. Bailey: That's the only way we can deal, Commissioner. Mr. Plummer: There's no other side parties involved. - Mr. Bailey: We understand. Mr. Plummer: Directly with the owner. Because it's my understanding that mart Mayor Suarez: Or his counsel - or,his representative. Mr. Plummer: ....that is not on the market. _ Mr. Bailey: I.understand. <' Mr—Plur: And that there are no brokerage fees`you ou deal directly with the`ow Mr. Bailey: That's correct. Mr. Plummer: OK. Mayor Suarez: One other question, Mr. City Attorney. - Mr. Jorge Fernandez:. Yes, sir. „ Mayor Suarez: Should all of this go as the motion is stated, -should it ,pass and should the City be _involved in negotiations. towards .the .acquisition. towards the acquisition of that building, or a lease„ possibly, do•we not have. a- to do any. - is that .;legally sufficient. or. do we, at some point, have to then compare it to more than one other alternative?' Mr. Fernandez That would be legally sufficient, I would think, Mr. Mayorf without looking at, it .,further. Mayor Suarez:, Wall, you might went to check; that between now ought ;to cheok 4;r_: that between now aitd .an y paint, that we `take anyctian QK` We' have a motion �. and a sfecond, certainly }all'•those who are favor this `better, qau know, are ^ advised not to manse 4tay<more Statements because we'g,going,to lose o ofnr ",x?z Commissioners who.'appa�rentlp. cl Ap $posed to',�►cte iA favor'.of gnyurthnr `dicupt�ion►.: t SO, t2ar7�iA _ Mr._ Kosnitzky: 'We' don't care t`o make any more: a w R = ? L/aYor 'Q[ware ; 7.¢ kn�]w we fr_now - r nne r.Y 7. M� Tf - pE Mr. Plummer: All right, so what we're doing, let's understand each other. We're not taking any definitive action, we're sending it to the Manager to negotiate and come back with a plan for this Commission, — Mrs. Kennedy: The plan, at which term we will examine the terms of the agreement. Mr. Plummer: And I'd also like Mr. Bailey and to... well, Mr. Bailey, through the Manager, to make a recommendation on that which has been negotiated. Mayor Suarez: Yes. Mr. Plummer: I don't want it to be assumed. Mayor Suarez: Right. Mr. Plummer: Misleading anybody... Mayor Suarers Yes, and let's clarify... Mr. Plummer: .... Manager to come back with an analysis that that's what he negotiated. He can analyze for us, we're going to make the final decision. Mr. Odio: Let me say something. I'm going to negotiate with them but if I see that the deal that we negotiated is not feasible, I will tell you so. Mayor Suarez: Sure. - Mr. Plummer: In other words, you're going to negotiate the best deal you can... _ Mayor Suarez: Yes, yes, yes... Mr. Odio: That is correct. a Mayor Suarers Y lie cane always recommend against the best deal .that he got. � And let me say .'one, other thing, to clarify, because of that-to.the owners and/or their, 'attorneys, if -at any point, anyone here is acting as their attorney,which -I guess they're not` but`I' know Mr. Kadi 6 Y' ► sh, you're at :least - x-. one of the owners or you are the owner or you're the principalthat', - because of the way 'that motion' is stated, there are no vesting of, any rights whatsoever. We -could negotiate this with ' g you for five years, decide that; we,. — for whatever reason don't' want to go `through with* it, and -'you, don't have a.. ,. _ right to a.sin le'pennyY ri g g of compensation from us. We have-not put you in any ,x position that you're taking anything off the market and putting it on the r market or spending any legal fees, spending your time or otherwise, incurring any expense that you could hold against the Commission or the City. INAUDIBLE COMMENTS NOT ENTERED INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD, ; Mr. fldio: What? Mayor Suarez: No, air. I'm just` trging to say that, as of now, we are not A taking any steps that give you the right to say that you reasonably relied -oh";. anything we said to your detriment and that we owe you any money for this r, negotiating 8 g phase: That's all I want tell you, sir. Mrs. Kennedy: Why don't you get on the 'record? =, Mayor Suarez: You better get on the record. s■• g Mr, William Kadish: My name is William Kalish. I am.Lawrence`:.Kadi$h's gpa, �, r the.: owner • of:` the 4400., BuildYng. When , we . giyo the City the';be$t, liayor-rSuarez: °'I donut suppose it wild taka five years, d+an+t an t#�at but, • I mean, wars:;Just-.; beginning.'soane aagot-3ativn� that; ght` a deal. and. x ,don't want you, to hold',us: rezpousible: for"if' a04. soma point, decide we don't want to deal with you any motet; Y . •' %r 3.'ra!" d'� AXrt � , sS'S ,fF 5�ry. _ o. $ ghat s: fine, .Mayor = Ws pope that:" iMwQ wsakskrQ;rjbr '� pr, pia. l that wa when, our final . proPpsal.,'>that the Cty;naa r►s!!Pa p►iiiti tint: pub to .b¢ the beet deal in `tow, a for tha, City aid hops that we•aan go, forward,; i 7 _ Mr. Plummer: Well, what the Mayor's telling you, let's make sure we understand, by doing this action today, we are not incurring any, I underline the word any obligation to you. Mr. Odio: he can sell the building... Mrs. Kennedy: Yes. Mr. Bailey: In other words, we're not taking the building off the market. Mr. Plummer: Wait, wait, wait, wait.... Mrs. Kennedy: Right, you're not taking it for us. - Mr. Kadish: That's understood. Mr. Plummers You understand that? Mr. Kadishs Sure, and it works as well as we have no obligations to the City at this time. Mr. Plummers Exactly. Mayor Suarez: Oh, yes, that's exactly right. OK, call the roll then with that understanding. The -following motion was introduced by Commissioner Kennedy, who moved its adoption: MOTION NO. 89-458 A MOTION DIRECTING THE. CITY., MANAGER TO SIT DOWN WITH - THE.OWNERS:OF THE 4400 BISCAYNE BOULEVARD BUILDING TO NEGOTIATE THE BEST POSSIBLE DEAL FOR THE PROPOSED ACQUISITION OF SAID BUILDING TO BE USED AS THE ,NEW, ADMINISTRATION BUILDING; FURTHER DIRECTING THE CITY. ,- MANAGER TO :ANALYZE THE VARIOUS ALTERNATIVES �j AND , FACTORS INVOLVED IN SAID. PROPOSAL, AND TO COME :BACK;. mow¢ BEFORE;.THE COMMISSION .WITH A PLAN AND RECOMMENDATION, 4^ r z 3 INCLUDING, BUT. NOT LIMITED. ;TO, NEGOTIATED, ,FIGURES,` FURTHER ;DIRECTING. THE:, ;MANAGER TO: KEEP IN.' MIND IMPORTANT::FACTORS SUCH AS, THE TOTAL NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES TO BE HOUSED AT SAID FACILITY, THE POSSIBLE a LOCATION OF THE CITY _MANAGER'S OFFICE TO,: SAID LOCATION, AND,THE:-TWO OPTIONS; BUYING OR LEASING SAID_ h FACILITY; AND TO. BRING SAID RECOMMENDATIONS FOR - FURTHER COMMISSION REVIEW AND;CONSIDERATION. �r Upon being seconded by Commissioner De Yurre, the motion was passed and r.. adopted. by the following vote: AYES;. Coimnissioner.J. L. Plummer, Jr.r. Commissioner Rosario Kennedy CommissioaerMiller Dawkins „s. Vice :Mayor: Victor De Yurre Mayor Xavier L. Suarez x � NOES: None. 5 z ABSENT: None., (Applause) Mtr: 8siieys Mayor, before . you leave this iteia, I would like t , come- baoiC IL�a abo rt our sp;ectias process w rohixeots F rn �7�TrfQli VMayor 5uBeZ¢ T th!'�C atpoin 3.•wt r'. r Ned,"t 4 1G��!e�I 'S`.'`y 3,.... r,s-�G",`:w� _ .?s t •'. - -d e+ � � r x i�]- '"yG���,i. i s t a r Ma. Koanitzky: Northeast group, two weeks come on back. NOTE FOR THE RECORD: Commissioner Plummer left the meeting at b:40 p.m. Mr. Teddy Cohen: Mr. Mayor, Mr. Mayor. Mayor Suarez: Dr. Ferguson, please. Mr. Cohen: Mr. Mayor, my name is Teddy Cohen. I'm here since 9:00 o'clock this morning. I understand that the meeting was called before on the Information regarding the use of the 4400 Building. However, I have a building that I think should also be put into consideration. Mayor Suarez: OK. Mr. Cohen: You were talking about consolidation. Mayor Suarez: Yes, sir. Mr. Cohen: I believe that I have a building downtown... Mayor Suarez: Please, outside the chambers, please, outside the chambers... Mr. Kadish, I think you must have given out a fraction of 1 percent to all the people that are here based on their interest in all of this. So, would you discuss your profits, future or otherwise, outside. All right. Mr. Cohen: You folks were talking about consolidation. You were talking about fiscal responsibility all day today. Mayor Suarez: Yes, sir._ Mr.,-- Cohen: Which I. admire you for and I think it should be carried forward. However, the building at 4400 I'm sure is a beautiful building, I've passed it many. ,times. However,, that is, not ghat I would call Miami and neither is ~' - Coconut Grove. Miami, to me, is downtown by the government center and you're talking about consolidation.. The reason I -say downtown is that I have a brand, new building, a hundred... Ma.yor_Suarez: I don't want to, tell you how to argue your case, but to imply that,,a building in, the Northeast area is not Miami when most of the people that are here supporting it are all residents of Miami. Most of the people that:work,downtown are not residents of Miami, is a tough way to tough rod to hoe, no... Mr. Cohen: Well, I... OK... Mayor Suarez: But you mean... Mr. ,Cohen: I.meant in the.core of Miami near government center talking in the terms, of consolidation. = ,. ;4 Mayor Suarez: Right.:.-. r r r hx,. Cohen...' Not+,:_my building is 100,000 square feet. uyor Suarez: :.{.$leas in the chambers, .:please, :air. ; P4eso You,: x 4. te.11:i s: about .mother property; ; Please, _give, -..us_ . th¢ , p r+t�e ers. of it and s wa' 11 Mr. Cohen: Yes, I will, Yes, as a matter'of fact, I have brochures, -hod asp t; .over • .to your }.t� lice. ° As, a;, matter,,.,of .afact. i, ad�t � 4� �T�► � �� � � t Aii an +F c►�ri= �y. , You prgba#:1y4 �idn'. t get xtQ ;.a_oe it, `. I �lkaoM you���►a"�.bee�! ��p,��►t�� � r !l,Ayc u«�«cz ..,L you �rAnt ue.tp put�eez.the rococotbn ,ac't ypu-o;the•� LAFaton,r•zoA:price. F Y r L ��.+3y�c r - h• F # ri2` b�� Mr. Cohent Location, it's right next to the Museum Tower at... Mayor Suarezt Please, please. Mr► Cohen: Please, I'd like to have toy time here also. - Mayor Suarezi Well, you're kind of out of order, but I'm going to let you make a quick presentation. - Mr. Cohen: All right, it's 33 S.W. 2nd Avenue, which is immediately adjacent to the Museum Tower. It's a class A building. Mayor Suarez: How many stories is it? Mr. Cohen: It's 14 stories, 6800 square feet per floor. It's the Professional Savings and Loan is on the ground floor. Mayor Suarez: Does it have Professional Savings at the top? No, that's another one. ' Mr. Cohent No, Professional Savings is in the building, they're on the ground floor. Mayor Suarez: It's attached to CenTrust? - Mr. Cohen: No, no, I didn't say CenTrust... Mayor Suarez: But the Museum Tower. Mr. Cohen: ... I said the Museum Tower. Mayor Suarez: Oh, OK, I know which building it is. Mr. Cohent, Now, it has parking as much as possibly could be accomplished t downtown. You've got private'parking, you got municipal parking and also you got public parking down there. Mayor'Suarez: And what.are the terms? Mr. Cohent °:It's -across the street63 ... Mayor Suarez: For roughly 130,000 square feet? Mr. Cohen- The -owner 1'1represent the owners of the building and the owners ?, of the building will be willing to listen to anything that makes 'sense.,- Mr..` - Dawkins mentioned before... Mayor Suarez: That's not going to workbecause, were pretty' advanced in looking at one possible building and they're talking specific rates and terms - so':you'probably... 'Mr. Cohen: Well, I'have to know what route you're "going to `go because 3►ou " x folks aren't sure which way you're going yourself. You're talking about;; lease. Mr. Dawkins, he said that he would only want to lease with an option ' to, purchase and we`'can'work out'something` on 'a' lease with an option to.'}_ purchase. r 4 Mayor Suarez: All right, I'm just trying to help you out but if you don't ^� e`ven`" ive' us, an idea'` of ,how man g Y Y Years we would-'get'wittiout paying' rent'' end what " the rent might be Y - Mr..'Cohen:,-} That is `alir:up to `negotiation . What I'd' like to do, -ken the liberty of making up some brochures for theCommiasionVN . $z a { Mayor=5uar`ezx OK.7.7W {rt 4 l�k.�Cohen; "All `I ask `i:3 that i e g n.r ���, t b iven' aonaiderat#o a o tilllding i$` better' o'r''wor' a `x" say .thaz,`,-it has'{all;'thb `areseter4 ha ?� Q ` "•. folk0.;0e4t;looitnB.° for across ` the 'street' .iron} the Caurtouaef' `axosp% ',�Af. -street Trots t etroreil;' parkin6 is. abundant right off' 1-95rou ``wau i ih Ya they, w�}1 : p'rWt ige 0f ha ing 1a 0li lga okt the building5. �ett.��W`s�,.4aT,� �,,r"�s..... 5.. .& 9`!Si�.,-> � 5 j .,- .. .,. -, . .... .. ,t,!t,'si r ,ky-�t•r x�t�jF�'Sms_.-� s_ _ C Mayor Suareti mt. Manager.... Mr. Cohen: and We near all the hotels and restaurants and with that, I'll say IIII leave the brochures and I would like to have the City Manager or the Assistant City Manager get back to me so that we can at least pursue what your needs are. Mayor Suarez: But I don't want to promise you that because, as I mentioned to you before, you don't seem to like my proposal or listen to it, but if I was going to suggest to you something, I would suggest that you make a very specific offer to try to derail something that, otherwise, is headed towards a possible negotiation and that has very specific terms. Mr. Cohen: Well, you'll have... Mayor Suarez: Except for the issue of the option to... Mr. Cohent Mr.'Mayor, you'll have to tell me then... Mayor Suarez: All right, go ahead, interrupt me.** Mr. Cohen: I see that there's not complete unanimity on the board here as to whether you want to rent or you want to lease... Mayor Suarezt There's never complete unanimity or unanimity or whatever. Mr. Cohen: I'm sorry? Mayor Suarez: There's never complete unanimity around here. Mr. Cohen: Well all right, but if you don't know, how can I make a.proposal then to you? Mayor, Suarez: Another group came in and gave, a, very specific proposal on a specific building and if you want to derail that momentum, you... Mr. Cohen: I think probably your best bet would be a lease with an option to purchase. I think that would give you the best of both worlds. Mayor Suarez: And I'm suggesting to you that you attach numbers to that. How many years without paying rent and what would the rent be after two and a half. years,orthree or whatever? Mr. Cohen: Fine, fine. May I... Ak Mayor Suarez: Sure,. Mr. Cohen: ... have your permission to get in touch with Mr. Odia, on it?-- g Mayor Suarez: Absolutely, you don't even need my permission for that. Mr. Cohen: All right. What I'll do is, I'd like to leave these brochures with him and if you... INAUDIBLE COMMENTS NOT ENTERED INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD.fi Mayor Suarez% No,.'no but he can leave the brochures now, sure. - - ---- Mr. Cohen: Yew,but 1: would'., As I said, I made, one'. up for every body Mayor.Suarezv Well, right:now we still have a quorum in the chambers:although ,` they're kind of in hiding but they're here. 14 Parleys. Mr. Mayor, before :you go % to -the next item � I sti I I clarification... Mayor Suarezv Yes. Commissioners: and, Madam' commission, m ssionI, , h vindication '-�', f,,wh4t,4to`do: with the Vus T. Z1 0 C think voilought , Think i Mr:{ C hip you Zor, your time V, 49k? V Mayor Suarez: Thank you, sir. We ought to, I think, tell very clearly to the Manager, Assistant Manager, that we don't want him to proceed at all on the architectural contract, just suspend all work on that I think is the only thing that make* sense. Mrs. Kennedy: Absolutely, we talked about it earlier. Mr. Bailey: Mayor, we make a suggestion. Mayor Suarez: Yes, Herb. Mr. Bailey: I would like to suggest that we at least finish to have the presentation and have the selection committee go through with a final selection and we can hold it in suspense at that point. At least these architects have expended a considerable amount of money and they've put together some very... Mayor Suarez: Doesn't it make it worse to go ahead and select... no? Mr. Bailey: No, it doesn't. We can get up to the point of selection and you _ can reject the whole recommendation if you like. That's the risk that they take. But at least if th*y proceed forward, we have a... Mayor Suarezz Well, you got to put it in writing, Herb, you better put it in writing if you select them that they are to do no work and that this does not imply any - that we're actually going to do the project at all. Mr. Bailey: There will be no decision on selection. Mayor Suarez: That's not what I said. What I said is, that better make sure you put in writing at the selection point, if we go that way, if you recommend that: we go and we follow your recommendation that doesn't mean that. we are proceeding at all and put that in writing.- I don't want them later saying, you know, we've been selected. Just like it happened last time... Mr. Bailey: Yes, yes. Mayor Suarez:: ... really because thecompany that did the: prior three dimensional -model, the , you know, has been saying that, you know, they were pre -selected and; you know, all this kind of stuff. Mr. Bailey: ° We'll do that and we'll : conclude the process and it'll `be :there 9. if we ,need it. Mayor Suarez: Doesthatmake sense? Mr. Manager, do=you recommend that we go ahead and make the selection on the possibility that we would use them. Mr.... Mr., Odior: Yes; sir,' because if we don't reach an agreement with the building to buy it, I don't see any alternatives of leasing, I really don't. r° Mayor Suarez: And there's not much work involved from our standpoint from s going ahead and making a selection. Mr. Bailey:' It:'s none involved from your part, from the.City's point, other<. than... $, Mayor Suarez: Or from your part? A " Mr. Bailey: Just the selection committee. We've Already decided that.proFeasr and we would .like :to conclude. --it.. We: -only have maybe .`One or two: more meetings Q and it's°over. Very simple. Mayor: Suarez: I'm ;intuitively, Inc Iined'`to'go the other way and jVst select because why have two more meetings and... Mrs. Kennedy.k`Wh cant he ust'wait until we make ♦{,f h H ' '4:i •.. J t- t F i iq 9 l.1, Mayor Suarez';3ugpend all 'activity on it, Write thQm a^ little i'iettar say,, r as_,af� now, the :project;}is tgtally in limbo or in abeyanca, you know, qr 's1hr.y7°'� dcasn t. that make more sense? Rather than; . having two.'; more meetj�s, o ;a though; the -:eara�.asa : PF ,; elect! on; ' posibil ity of lawsuka.s r Y$a Ql,jwhy dpcit you`mova:that we eimpiy;stop all selection pxhcoed�aga�;= fy ih, L11 Mrs. Kennedy: I so move that we stop the selection proceedings. Mr. be Yurret Second: Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded. Mr. Bailey: I'm trying to get this motion - you moved that... Mayor Suarezt We're going to suspend all selection proceedings or procedures, advise the architects that have bid in that as of now, we may not be doing the work. Mr. Fernandez: You're not necessarily rejecting, you're holding in abeyance. Mayor Suarez: Exactly. Mrs. Kennedy: Put it on hold. Mayor Suarez: And, I think if we, within a reasonable time, were to _ reactivate the process, I think we could go back and continue negotiating with the same ones that..,. because I don't. think the conditions would have changed if it was done like within a month or so. And we will have something within a month, I.would think. Mr..Bailey:, OK. Mayor Suarez: I'm not saying this is any to run a City, I'm just saying this is the best under the circumstances, Herb, but going through the exercise. 1mean that... Mr.;Baileq•., I -understand the motion. I just need to know if how long can we consider the submissions void, nullified because of time? Mayor Suarez: Good point, good point. Should we tie a period of no more than 30 days before we make a final determination whether to... Mr. Fernandez: I think that would be more reasonable and that would clearly give -.all the participants... —� Mayor Suarez: OK, we're going to take a 30-day freeze on all the g Y B 8 Y proceedings:, .. of selection of an architect, Mr. Manager. Does that make sense? And so that' i way they, ;have notice that if conditions remain the same and we go back to t� building a building, that we'll take up where" we left off. It's just like, postponing for.a.month. It's -like deferring, action on it. y Mr. Bailey:, Yes, we don't„.go backout for more bids but take those that are - already in house, all right. Mayor Suarez: Exactly. {' Mr. Bailey: All right. Mayor Suarez: It's like deferring it for a full 30-day period. Mr. Bailey: All right. i Mayor Suarez: OK, so understood is the motion, second. Call,the roll - the following motion was introduced by Commissioner Kennedy, who moved '3 ite adoption:, �. a#: t, A MOTION INSTRyCTING. THE Cm MANAGER TO .114900E A :i0•• PAX FREEZE ON, -THE SELECTION R'ROCESS CURRL IINAEg r rf FWA'OR #'ROFESIONAL ARCiIITEC'URAI AND ' GiN1ERiNG SERVICES: IN CONNECTION WITH' Tl NSW �1DMzNIS RAT Bi1iLAING�J!, Upon btgecad �yo,iussor�r� Xs�rre, t#�e m-xlcpn adopted: by the ;Eo�lOwt4g 1i L.gM -----`�i'�"�.'S�k.'.fh�:.dr.r.:4.�.x ,r... h,a r?.� ,..,::.. ., ,', .. ,.,. •. ;.,. ..-.;. .,.. • ,, .. .. ,, ,. ..... .. , . ... _ _..+.� `.._�.h-3�.5.rb.. _.$: 7 • AYES: Commissioner Rosario Kennedy Commissioner Miller Dawkins Vice Mayor Victor De Yurre Mayor Xavier L. Suarez NOES: None. ABSENTS Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. NOTE FOR THE RECORD: At this point, items 54 and 55 were temporarily tabled. _------------------- — 54. DIRECT CITY ATTORNEY TO COME BACK WITH APPROPRIATE ORDINANCE TO INSTITUTE THE CITY COMMISSION POLICY TO ALLOW POLICE VETERANS TO KEEP THEIR SERVICE WEAPON AFTER HONORABLE RETIREMENT. Mayor Suarez: Authorization of retired Police Department personnel. That was Commissioner Plummer's item. Does anybody know what he was looking for on that? Mr. Odic: I know what he was looking for. He just wants to make sure that the police officer that retires is able to buy the service revolver, in this case, this pistols now. Mayor Suarez: Can't you act on that by yourself or do you need something from us? Mr. Odic: No, I need your permission to do that. Mr. 'Dawkins: Move it. Mayor Suarez; Move it. Ya3 Mr. De ,Yurre: Second. ;•;; 4, t Mr. Dawkins: Second, whatever it is. Mr. Odic-., To get it for free, I'm sorry. To get them for free. Mayor Suarez: OK, after how many years minimum? Mr. Odio: When they retire so that.'.. Lt. Joseph'Longueira: When they... Mayor Suarez: Let's make sure that we mean retire with... Mr. Odic: With retired.' T Lt. , Longueira: Mr. Mayor, - the only..', ` Mr. Dawkinst When he retires.. Mayor Suarez: Honorable retirement, not somebody who. .is,.. Mr. Dawkins:' :.. not 'if' he> quite. : £ > :a P Hayor Suarez Right, be retires yea, but if a g� t, no ., , IjxM ii, Odio rretire$, h¢'' quits; Y k � ��,, P 1 %1 htN e"rtt b p 7R`l i t�h # Lt, Lohgueita: Might. Mr. Odin: Ott. Lt. Longueira: The only other recommendation we have is that the weapon had to be In service five years. We don't want to give a brand new gun away. Mayor Suarez: No, no, right. Mr. Odio: No, no, wait a minute. He's being stingy. If a police officer is here for 25 years and he got a hew gun, I don't care if he takes it with him. Mr. Dawkins: That's right. Mayor Suarez: What happens when they get a new one? Do they get to keep the prior one or is the prior one disposed of? Mr. Odio: If we switch guns, we take the old ones back. Mayor Suarez: So right now, there's only one case where we've issued a new One unless they get, somehow, destroyed or... Mr. Odio: But I am in agreement that if an officer retires and he has served _ the department well, he should take the gun with him. Mayor Suarez: OK, when you mean retire there again, you mean someone who at least has ten years of service? Mr. Odio: Well, they would have to have the rule of seventy and... Mayor Suarez: OK, that's full vested retirement now. jj Mr. Dawkins: Yes. Mr. Odio: Full vested... I would" say' any 'police officer that retires honorablY, should be able to take his gun with him. Mr. Dawkins: Even if it's a disability, what he said, even if it's a + FL- t. disability. Mr. Odio: In honor that he has not disgraced the department. Mr. Dawkins: Don't have the years', but got disability, I think that's what.— ` e he's saying._ Mr. Odio: Because you could be disabled so I would say retired. Now, if he quits or whatever, no. Mayor "Suarez: Well, but see, you can't say that because when an officer has been on the force enough years that he has vested retireYment_benefits$ he f; quits. --I mean,_he.volun,tarily retires. That's quitting, that's`l.ike.., v Mr. Dawkins: That►s'not quitting though. 7 Mayor Suarez: What do you mean ..quits? Before you vested your, retirement?_ .. ,u Mr. Odio: Yes. . r- Mayor Suarez: OKNONE, and when does that begin for a police officer, after how: 'many years? 3 - —' Mr. Odio:"` Ten years: Ten'`years'is vested. Mayor Suarez: OK, that's not under the rule of seventy. The rule iif seventy t'. �Fa i'$ for'full>''vested retirement, This is ju t f s of minirau:n vesting, R#ght? — M. Odio: 1Why dgn�t you say any `atter`ten years. 1a ffftasm.?Es �. tJNIA$IiTIFI>~D 8$$AKER: Fifty.. ; M J`7.r Sty �. <<. lira' Odin: �`Fifty�a>ad�=wiAty�. Mr. Jorge Fernandez: Mr. Mayor, why don't you instruct us to come back to your with an ordinance... Mayor Suarez: OK. Mr. Fernandez: ... because this will have to be passed with an ordinance Deflecting what the administration... Mayor Suarez: Yes, I could see that it would be fifteen years of service or the alternative being a disability situation, whatever. OK. Mr. Odio: But I think that they should be... Mayor Suarez: I think you get a general import and in principle, that's the motion we'd like to make, that they can take their weapon if they've served a = full vesting number of years or have a disability of some sort. Is that in the form of a motion, Commissioner? Do you want to move It Mr. Dawkins: Move it. Mayor Suarez: Do you want to second that? Mr. Prieto: Yes. Mr. Dawkins: OK. Mr. Pristot And they don't simply want to put any money into the system. Mr. Dawkins: Yes, but I don't mind him not putting any money in it, but I have a problem with all the..6 who's supposed to clean up the debris and.the trash and the garbage the people dump in there? Mr. Prieto: Apparently, if we want it, we will have to clean it up. Mr. Dawkins: It's their property. Mr. Prietot Yes, that's true. - Mr. Dawkins: See, look, like this, sir, behind here. Mr. Pristot Yes, that's right. But, unfortunately, the garbage is sometimes on our right-of-way and it comes... Mr. Dawkins: All right, well let's push it on their right-of-way. - Mr. Prieto: OK. Sure, fine. Mr. Dawkins: No, all jokes aside, I mean somewhere along the lines, somebody has to resume'responsibility. Mr. Prieto: Yes. _ Mr. Dawkins: So that when all -of us ride down through that area, we don't see ' this. Mr. Prieto: That's true:. Mr. Dawkins: Now how do we'do it? z -i ff Mr.' P 16to:' Well, perhaps we could have some code ' e'nforcement with the CSX . and we could,proceed on that basis. Also, we can proceed - in fact, we have sight''very- bad- ntersections. They're all CSX and could you... Est. Mr:'Dawkins: OK, now, all right, let me say something:' Can I make this• r}, _i suggestion? ;. 4 t Mr. Prieto:, Yes. Mr:` Dawkins: -_ Toll CSX, whatever it is, that this will be the third time that we haves asked them to come and discuss this with us., .here �y. Mr. Prieto: Yss: ? tad; Mr. Dawkins: And. ask them to come. We'll find out.from the City Attornoy.. If they refuse to come, what can we do? Mr!,Prieto Fine. We'11 do,that. Thank you. w` a S 1 Mr. Dawkins: OK,, all right, thank you, sir. Thanks, Mr, Mayor. p" A. 0F$i-r{ fi '�+ {{�w¢'{ *4y4,v�nA'.�'d F -�. •2n 'k�l"�' _ r ;. 4 t -;-i ! L ( V i _ �' ,- Yi 5.. t R f •F 1{ Y .iF ¢ L}Ti'ut''g + t.,y y'` S.� '. t ' ' , `'+'{ r r S + h � { Y' ; £, j ' ',.. o � r• 5i� r �` e r 1.� � ' �! �t � �' vry ar,�t��y 4n�`� � , I ' i i , + i.. Zf uX. w t _. I i .•„Y4 rt 5].„TI 'S 4F+' �kk��[''i`��' _ 1 4 } Of) r 4 } 4 1 75 r �� d! . i l:* ..� .. .t...f..rc.. �FI .., . ., -.. •l.., , r .. .. ... 1 ,... r :. i:�J: is � h��Y �Y.N i'I.a�ir3.• - ,t x .W a .�-------------------------- -- -- ----- 56. DISCUSS AND DEFER TO MEETING OF JbNE 7TH CONSIDERATION OF THE USIS OY Rtg4tLE (SPEED) STRIPS WITHIN THE CITY. -i----- ---------------------------------- - ------- ----r. Mayor Suarez: Item 57. Rumble strips on those locations. Mr. Jim Kay: This item was requested by Commissioner Plummer, rumble strips and... Mayor Suarez: Yes. Mr. Kay: ... we have made a recommendation to you. We do not bring it to you as a strong recommendation that we start installing rumble strips. Mayor Suarez: Is that, in part, because of the expense? av — Mr. Kay: No, it's mainly because of the noise generated by the strips in residential areas. If you may or may not recall, there were some rumble strips installed at the intersection of Douglas Road and Ingraham Highway. They were installed by Dade County to warn the motorists of that curve in that area. Mayor Suarez: Give me the area again, Jim. Mr. Kay: Douglas Road, 37th Avenue and Ingraham Highway. Mayor Suarez: But those are not in place now. Mr. Kay: No. They were paved over. They were taken out by the county due to complaints by area residents of the noises that was generated by the strips. a; Mayor Suarez: How many years ago? I mean, a long time ago or... Mr. Kay: No, it was fairly recent, it was about three or four years ago. '— Mayor Suarez: Sir, did you want to address this issue?. Mr. Michael Hornyak: Yes, sir, I would. }" Mayor Suarez: I guess they're concern mainly is noise and... 4' Mr. Sergio Rodriguez: May I suggest that you discuss this., when Commissioner Plummer is here. He's the one that brought this issue as a major .issue, and he's going to be asking for the item to be reviewed again probably in front of him. Mayor Suarez: Oh, you can -suggest anything, but I mean... no, actually, his fl.. statement tonight is that if he was needed he would be willing,to come beck but otherwise we. could act on all the items. Let's just defer.' " r ya Mr. Rodriguez: "Oh,`OX, that's what I think. He's going to ask for the... if lY�#� Mayor' Suarez: -Let's just defer` because it... but let's _hear Prom. the gentleman that's been waiting. Mr'. ' Hornyaki ` OK, thank you. My name is Michael Hornyak I'm at 3050 Litge' . Court -here in Coconut Grove and I would just like ,to indicate to'',the a }34 Commission that there are a number of residents very close to the dnVRtow� Grove who are cbnaisteniiy plagued by"very, `.heavy traffic volume,at�d' p;eedang x traffic- in particularly on. the 'weekends during the night time hours.':Qur 7 � 'to neighborhoods, we. are exploring different ways to try hin4;ka tAC probi,ams. '^'i'm a maipber of s Crime Watch` group and when wa aaw the hdtc t"io r tte Ns$ghborhood`magazine'this morning that you would be addrsssit� th�r ' S 4 z�uab¢ atrip� ' s�►ue �we -saw `that as one avenue that Gould problems with these speeding vehicles . through pur area dur. 1.4 l presence in the area. However, since then, what we've seen is actual s _ direction of traffic, of this traffic overload down through our neighborhood _ which is the exact opposite of what we wanted. We need something to protect our neighborhood from this overload on the weekends and so we would like to } urge the Commission to adopt or at least allow rumble strips in areas where the majority of the residents agree that they would like to see them Installed. Thank you. Mayor Suarez: I guess it looks like we're going to have to require you come back again... Mr. Hornyak: OK. Mayor Suarez: ... and argue for it. I would come back again because it looks like we're going to defer action on this item because of Commissioner Plunmer's advocacy of it and his not being here. I'll entertain a motion to defer until when - or continue until when? Mr. Dawkins: Till the next meeting. - Mayor Suarez: Mr. Manager, I guess it would be the next regular - June 7th - - OK, so moved. Mr. Dawkins: Second. Mayor Suarez: Call the roll. ON MOTION DULY MADE BY COMMISSIONER KENNEDY AND SECONDED BY - COMMISSIONER DAWKINS, THE ABOVE MATTER WAS DEFERRED UNTIL THE COMMISSION MEETING OF JUNE 7, 1989, BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE: AYES: Commissioner Rosario Kennedy Commissioner Miller Dawkins Vice Mayor Victor De Yurre Mayor Xavier L. Suarez J NOES: None. - ABSENT: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. A 57. APPROVE EXECUTION OF PARTICIPATION AGREEMENT BY DEPARTMENT OF OFF-STREET ¢_ 0001 jy PARKING CONCERNING - THE 'LOANING OF FUNDS FROM THE FIRST 7MUNICIPAL r COUNCIL'S POOL LOAN PROGRAM TO THE CITY OF'MIAMI. (Note: Authorization loan was recommended in connection with funding for the Coconut Grove Playhouse y project, the refinancing of two outstanding City loans with Barnett Bank to build the Arena parking, and for the purchase of land in the Latin Quarter area.) : t Mayor Suarez: Item'54 I passed over actually because I wanted to spend a little time on it but if you could give us a quick report on the Overtown Task Force:„ Where's Jeffrey? Mr. Odio: You want me to - I'tl start it...� t Mayor Suarez: How about d while him we search down. Is Jack Mulvena here? What' is this about? Looks like a discussion item, not for action or.yes action. Mr'.'- -Jack Mulvehat.Well, it's a discussion item which we do hope. ;that.:'the Commission will proceed ahead with some action.7r� sue" Jiro. Kennedy: I don't know, has anybody had time to look at the packet? °,_ Via 'Nov got this two`: days ago and l for one,'.haven't :bad i"chances 1Qik'at — C6640nut 0rove Playhouse, F,, _ Yd I Lnv C 007or 'Suarez: =Is there any aspects of it that are eiementstly ap¢udiMt►ea that we' should decide x4447 E ; 202 ? �� r � Fi rei TM—r��{sic''.=i} g^.✓ S K[ u Ni•'V-_ Mr. Odio: Well, he's got a deadline of June let. Mrs. Kennedy: All right, go ahead and then tell us what you need from us. Mr. Mulvena: Why don't I tell you how basic it is and I think that you may hot need as much of the back-up information. As you know, we're prepared to break ground for the Coconut Grove Playhouse project which is a mixture of improving the Playhouse, providing up to 500 spaces of garage and 30,000 square feet of commercial space. We have an opportunity to finance that project through the League of Cities pool at the state level. It's a very favorable interest. We have already qualified for that particular loan system and basically what we need is the authorization from the City Commission to proceed ahead with a loan from the particular source up to ten million dollars. Now, that ten million dollars would underwrite this project, it would also help us refinance the two loans that we took out with Barnett Bank to build the Arena parking and to procure land in the Latin Quarter area. - Mrs. Kennedy: When is the closing date of these loans? Mr. Mulvena: June 1 is the closing date for us to proceed ahead with this - particular money, Mayor Suarez: And you would be taking revenues from existing parking revenues _ or you would be assuming that some would come from parking to be built at the Playhouse? Mr. Mulvena: Well, actually, we're required, because it's a very conservative _ nature to be able to support this project, I mean, the loan without 'the generator which is the Coconut Grove Playhouse garage. Mayor Suarez: From existing. Mr. Mulvena: Yes, this.is to be from existing. This is part of our five year plan. Mayor Suarez: So you can go up to another ten million in and you "still don't have the project by project approach. What you call, I guess, the 1.0 — approach? Mr.: Mulvena: No, we don't need to implement that nor have we considered it for this project. So, basically, we have this opportunity to get $10 million dollars; at a favorable rate which will allow us..: Yam- Mayor Suarez: Do you have to come back to us for spending it? Will there be -ita any last steps -,I guess we still have to approve some aspects of the Coconut Grove Playhouse, don't we? '4 Mr. Mulvena: I think the only aspect yet to be approved is the change of zoning on one portion. Mr. Dawkins: You do have to come back for zoning. Right... f" Mr. Mulvena: Yes, they're... r Mr. Dawkins: And I'm going to tell you, I'm:voting against it because you don't need no commercial, I'm going to tell you now. Mayor Suarez: OK, that means that you'll have at least one more... Mr. Mulvena: Yes. Mayor Suarez: ... on that particular project, you'll have .to come back at. least ,one more time. 4 Mr. Mulvena: Yea, : we.=:under:..~ R�<' Mayor, Suarez: So,.,basical ,::;we'll. allow qu: a y Y pay, -.:back how much do yQu have to pay back of existing indebtedness? Mr, Mulvena: The existing indebtedness is in the neighborhor,i'of *out;. mill on . aad thaLin for .the Arena. -parking and;: the .land -jwe 9 ppcoaurQd . is -vo Little Havana area, -And .this again► . it'a `a favorable rate, ' The B&Fpett �aR� /� 2 203 p !l t i ap gg 4 Y��i loans are short term. We had expected to refinance all of this in this project anyway through the sale of bonds. Mayor Suarez: Right. Jack, if you can rehash, very quickly, restate very quickly, what amount of bonds could be paid back from the Playhouse parking itself, if you remember? Mr. Muivens: Well, no, actually our feasibility indicates that over the first ten years, depending on how much the garage is utilized, our... Mayor Suarez: It obviously depends on that. Mr. Mulvena: Yes, but the kicker is, you know, our board makes us make projections on a 50 percent utilization which is, you know, pretty drastic. And at a 50 percent utilization, this particular project comes out in the red in the neighborhood of about $150,000. As you increase the utilization to what we, in the parking business are telling our board, then we'd be happy to tell you, that it begins to break even a little closer to six or seven years which isn't unusual for a large project of this nature. Mayor Suarez: Yes, but see, now you're doing a cash flow analysis, that's not what I wanted you to tell me. I want you to tell me what was the bondable capacity of the streams of revenues from this project just by itself? - assuming 50 percent or 60 or 70 percent use, whatever use you want to give me. Mr. Mulvena: It can't support itself. Mayor Suarez: What is the amount? How much would it be able to support in bonding? Mr. Mulvena: You have to - yes, but... Mrs. Kennedy: It's a bonding capacity he's asking for. Mayor Suarez: Because someday, we have to get to the point that each project will.have_to finance itself, Jack, and we're not at that point yet, I know, but... Mr. Mulvena: Yes, my director of finance tells me it could be .two million dollars. Mayor Suarez: So it can only finance up to two million dollars of its own need. Mr. Mulvena: Right, Mayor Suarez: And how much is the cost of your...? Mr. Mulvena: Our portion is about 6.5 million for the construction of the garage itself and the private sector is bringing in the... - Mayor Suarez: But $2 million then is a very conservative estimate of the bonding.capacity of it? Could be three, could be four is what you're, saying.. Mr. Mulvena: Depending on how successful it gets. - Mayor Suarez: Yes, obviously..,. Mr. Mulvena: We like to think it's going to be, you know, three years... A Mayor Suarez; Self . supporting. ,xx t L r Mr. Mulvena: self supporting, sure, 4 Mayor Suarez; At some point." tlt. Mulvena: But our board ` won't' let -us use those numbers. 7� S Mayor Suarez: I know, I know, I know. Japk, the tr•€f io. Pram ghat 6ar"e :s going to be- ? = } !,'j fY✓� � .ice Qzc Mr. Mulvena: It's going to be on the Main Highway exclusively. Mr. Dawkins: On Main Highway? As congested as it is, you're going to,dump this traffic on Main Highway. Mr. Mulvena: Right, Mrs. Kennedy: Are you going to be using the alley? xa Mr. Mulvena: Well, of course, what we're going to take though is the, you know, we're going to add a resource, we think. Right now, there's something that passes as a street, an alleyway which is alongside of our surface lot. And the ideal of the project is to set the project back enough so that that will become two lanes into the garage and it'll start stacking on the side. _ In other words, you'll find your way into our garage off of the U.S. - off the s highway. but you'll enter in towards the middle. Mr. Dawkins: But when you come out and come down, coming south, you still got to come across the street or make a turn, make a right hand turn... - Mr. Mulvena: Oh, yes, yes. Yes. Mr. Dawkins: ... or a left hand turn and you're not widening that. Mr. Mulvena: No, no. No, there will probably have to be a signal indicator we would suggest to try.to handle it. Mayor Suarez: Or a no left turn. Maybe everybody should just go out and go right. Mr. Mulvena: That is a possibility, yes. Mr. De Yurre: Mr. Mayor, if I may? -- Mayor Suarez: Yes, Mr. Vice Mayor. Th Mr. De Yurre: Jack, one thing that I'm really concerned about and we're going to be dealing `with the issue as we see the group here from S.W. 8th Street is `^ the specialty project on 8th Street. Now, how long has that project been in "I the works.so I.can have a.little bit of background? How man " B Y: years?,: . .Mr. Mulvena: At least.,.: fir; Mrs. Kennedy: Three .years. R Mr. Mulvena: At.least three years,.yes. f Mr. De Yurre. OK. _s Mrs. Kennedy: I can answer that. Mr. De Yurre: Now, if we're talking about bonding out ten million dollars far h the 'Coconut Grove project.., - Mr. Mulvena: Well, it's about 6.5,,the others ,are to refinance the,,.to,ett ih ;Bank, 4t.1s .the Arena parking, we're refinancing the Latin Quarto; loan Mr. .De Yurre OK, well..., { x� Mr. ,Mulvena: But yes. but: it Ia ;ten million}, .708 �. e ,..., •.t .. -: . .. . ..., { -'.. 1 . + ' ♦ ._e•• ,. 41},, i ," { r.$�ItJsmjw, a Mr. De Yurre., line is, where are we going to get the money. or this f -project?, :Mr..?Mulvens:,the.;tnn million? w Mr, pe Yurre #or the specialty fprojapt oh, at> Street MrT M41veup: well,+ phis projecL, You <#cnow, the boAded; limit ;;within our, botading capacity which .1.2 milliQm #ox the, lr�rog ;t,q sR ` r $bp,OQO fox the feasibility study. That's what the `b4ersl' set t4ide B i ,lrf;" ; 7 �. - s�s�N.t%a— E f' ! ss ti contribution to this project: And to go any higher on that projector to go any higher on the Coconut Grove project begins to lower our debt service ratio below the LSO which our board won't permit us to do so at this point, we are stretched - when we look across the line from all of our projects, Arent parking... Mr. De Yurre: Are you telling me that it's either Coconut Grove specialty center? or this Mr. Mulvena: No, I'm telling you that with Coconut Grove we're under contract. I mean, you know, like you were pre warning other people, we've already entered a contract with the developer... Mr. De Yurre: To do what? Mr. Mulvena: ... to develop both the garage and the commercial space. Mr. De Yurre: Subject to? Mr. Dawkins: Wait a minute, you will not develop it if you don't zoning. Mr. Mulvena: Well, we... Mr. Dawkins: Right? Mr.`De Yurre: There have to be conditions. Mr. Mulvena: Well, more accurately, Commissioner... Mr. Dawkins: Right'or wrong? +a: Mr. Mulvena: No, no its... - Mr. Dawkins: Is that right or wrong? Mr. Mulvena: ThaVa wrong xs` Mr. Dawkins: Why? ; Mr. Mulvena: Well', I'll tell you why. I didn't want it say wrong, but... Mr. Dawkinsi OK,`go ahead; go>ahead `go ahead. ' }. Mr. De.Yurrei .Jack, what are the conditions? Jack. Mr. Mulvena: Let 'me tell you why. The reason is because north of the.: Playhouse``the zoning permits'already a garage and commercial. In other words, we could proceed ahead with the garage and the .commercial without any zoning changes. Mr. Dawkins: Well, why don't you do that? F Mr. Mulvena; Well, the reason we don't want to do it because one of the major partners is the Coconut Grove Playhouse and all of the, other, you know ^z developments south of the Playhouse which is going to face,'.'a portion' of Charles Street is all theater development and most of the neighbora,who.we'vo talked to do not object to the theater development. They would abject o commercial development.' Mr. Dawkins: ` That's why you're going to, move the other way with it fight, v►hexi you"get-th ere''i'n,'go>ing, to_'nave': ail those neighbors down ore r x t l r De Yurre: What - let' me, ask ,you then... ! M l n Weil, and we re meeting with them.'.; I /W H'. De Yurre': what are` the .conditions; whet are the 'cot►dlit�ne9 �ito�$ ,ari - cpLras yQu hate? Has to be : you kniow, have to be • some condilgDg �'�#�t'pc a `t Q. aQmething' hap�aAing or notip happening;,4 r it�y yak)) - r 1 S 1 k 1 z. 1 L �k�F`X,s.F'Ll.-I'nyfb^4+:s ,. ,•t... ..'.t I,ir I" t k. ;,, `}`K .�<.:r ifilykxb���... r k_ Mr: Mulvehas Well, like I said, the portion, you know, on our portion which Is the... Mr: be Yurres Well, let's say you don't have the money. Isn't that a Condition? Mr. Mulvena: I supposed if we didn't have the money, sure, of course. Mr. De Yurre: So, if we don't approve the money, then there's got to be a condition or... Mr. Mulvenar Well, then we would be before you to sell bonds. We're coming before you now to draw down an already existing bond pool which is at a favorable rate. Mr. De Yurre: I know, but the bottom line is that in that contract, then Mr. City Attorney... Mr. Jorge Fernandez: Yes, sir. Mr. De Yurre: ... have you reviewed, are you aware of that contract that he's _ talking about? Mr. Fernandez: Yes, we are. My office has been working with them on that. - Mr. De Yurre: Are there any clauses there which make that a conditional _ contract? Things that would have to happen in order for the Off Street Parking Authority to be committed? Such as getting the funding, money being s. available?- Or are they committed 100 percent that they can't get out.of it? Mr. Fernandez: My understanding is that the department of Off Street Parking has already proceeded to the point where it is committed to completing and going through the entire project. Mr.,De Yurres So then, you have the funding to do it. Mayor < Suarez: Yes, he's trying to finance: it at less cost by using: Sunshine State Pool with this item. - Mr. De.Yurre:. OK. If you didn't have the Sunshine State Pool, what would you o,, regular bonding? f�= Mr. Mulvenar We:.would.do a regular bonding..:. - - Mr. Fernandez: Yes. Mr.,Mulvena:: the only, way you can do that is certainly to come through j the Commission to do that. You know, I might add though, Commissioner..._ Mr. De Yurre: So then...you're not locked into that contract. as you may not w gat the money. Conceivably it could happen.- Mr. Mulvenas Well, let me tell you from a business perspective why I prefer v to be locked into it. We accepted... Mr. De_Yurrer No, no, I'm- not talking about business, I'm talking *about a legal standpoint. Mr. Mulvenas Well., :but .let me... I'I1:.speak-to it legally. -without-, being 14, Y Y lawyer, you know. 1xr 5.- Mayor Suarez: No, as an authority, they're bound.'; Mr, Mulvenav, YeaR Y _ Mayor Suarez: Now, then can... you know, we could try to block:.that "ame hnyr•' but it.would brook our own word to the authority is Qur, approval, has gan�p:,.out -fob' ,bid$ and has been `approved' and the authority can pro 'arith it unleso we•., r Ms. 44 Yurres #*eaaae .you know, I'll .tell yau.arhere I')►: tj�.YJRu Ow" , tF ya+e�s, vre have, seat► ett Street deiaric?rating, yQu kno�r, hits amct�►u1e !} F'+• ! h. i .� i r y =. t'+Z _ w� ;y +t S�`:" '+Q•l.rk � �,�eLM S�q+ y f : r t'i��x - •� it happening. And we see a lot of things, a lot of money spent in Coconut Grove, right here, you know, how many, what, 42 police officers? We have at night and weekends there? You know, that's a lot of dollars that we spend in Coconut Grove and yet S.W. Sth Street, where the specialty center is being proposed, could be something pretty much like Coconut Grove night life, people out there enjoying what this community has to offer and I think that, you know, for some reason it just ain't moving as fast as it should and I don't know if it's that, you know... I know there's commitment because I know that Commissioner Kennedy has been involved in it but I don't know if there's a wholehearted commitment from the Off Street Parking Authority or exactly what the dynamics are that really don't make it happen the way it should or as fast as it should. And I would like to have, you know, some concept of where we - can find monies just like we've done now for the Coconut Grove project which is a, you know, it's a viable thing also, but for this community. And I would — like to get some resolve from you as to where we can get those funds because they want to know today. I'm sure they would like to know what's going to happen. Mr. Mulvena: Sure, well... — Mr. De Yurre: So, do you have any idea where we can get that money? Mr. Mulvena: I do have a couple of ideas. — Mr. De Yurre: OK. Mr. Mulvena: The first idea is, you know, the community most of which are sitting here, already do know we've been there and been very sincere about investing money, getting studies done, I mean, you know, we've been about our business. But, you know, expense wise, we're bound in to running garages and - what we can do and we're at our bonding limit. There are some other revenue sources that we might be able to develop, you know, in concert with the Sports = and Exhibition Authority and the City Manager's,office. I mean, we could get _ together and look for other revenue sources that are not taxes and that would probably.be;my suggestion to you, if you want,the department to-do more.. And by the way, our director of finance, not our director finance but our;.chairman of our finance department, David Weaver, is. always said when he's down here, — we'll do anything the City wants..us to do as long as we can meet our:1.5 debt service coverage and our reserve, and he's sincere. As am I sincere when I represent that. So I think the answer, Commissioner, to your question is, additional.revenue sources. -- Mr. De Yurre: OK, when I told you the other day when we met about getting the. Sports and Exhibition Authority to maybe take over some of the bonding ` liability as far as the parking - some of the parking lots around the Arena — and freeing :up dollars to bond out by the Off Street Parking .Authority, is that a viable proposition or not? Mr., Mulvena: Well, you know, it's the one you can't make a judgment.on just into the one day that we talk,. but, you know, when you get. together ;two authorities with professionals, I think there's promise there. You know, we could come up with something, I can't say that it'll happen because I can't r speak for the Sports end Exh�oition Authority but, you know, there are ways t` that I know the Department of Off Street Parking can make more revenues. OK, and, you know, we'd have to sit down with the other authorities and the City to find out whether that's a palatable way to, you know, increase our revenue:` streams.; Mr, De-Yurre: Yes, because the bottom line is,. we :have to give some kind of answer this evening here and right now, you know, I don't see any answer, Kv i concrete answer, to be given. - Mr. Mulvena: Well, I can look everybody here in the eye, they know.that,I've been doing the best I can, I mean everybody here including some people,.i you know, I haven't even met, OK? I can, I mean, because we've been there: you - know... , Mr, De Yurre t OK, Mr: Mulvena: .. you got to kind of spread ' it around a h lite bitx tlik, 4 4 x�Ri ri. s what the: answer to that one is. I don't think the Department, ne�ss.xh� Reta new, revenue sources can walk into any single , ro ect and dot all prQ,ioot, say nsw�i��a, t �, , you just can't do it, but we can tislp; we r4�►;� pa1�• y�'`. �r r Mr. De Yurres OK, thank you. Mrs. Kennedy: .lack, who's the developer on this project? Mr. Mulvena: Seth Werner, Coconut Investments, Inc. They were the one single ,T bidder and they're the present developer on the project. Mayor Suarez: OK, I'll entertain a motion on 58. Mr. Fernandez: Mr. Mayor, a point of order, as you all well know, the Off Street Board has not been able to meet recently and we had the very untimely loss of Mr. Pantin. The Off Street Board has not yet met offi;ially themselves, passed the resolution where they are going on the record raying this. So the resolution that you're passing today is conditioned upon them meeting in the next week and passing the resolution. Their own resolution. Mayor Suarez: When do they make a recommendation on a replacement? Mr.. Mulvena: I know the agenda item will be entertained this Wednesday and there have been several names already circulated so I'm certain that there'll be... Mayor Suarez: The Wednesday coming up, you mean? _ Mr. Mulvena: This very Wednesday coming up. Mayor Suarez: Coming up, OK. Mr. Fernandez: Yes. Mr. Mulvena: The next board meeting. So we're hoping by the next time we get together there'll be a recommendation of the Commission for ratification.' Mayor Suarez: The members of the - supporters of the Latin_Quarter.specialty center and themembersof all my own task force and generally are advised . q and recommended to give your input to Mr. Mulvena on who you would like to be' thefifth:'member of the' Off Street Parking Board 'since sae- have that vadaficq .tf sf now because of the'untimely loss of Leslie'Pantin:' #} r. �. Mrs.:. Kennedy: So I guess the appropriate motion on this would be approving;— the execution of this agreement using the first municipal loan program. ;— Mr. Mulvena: It. would-, 'fJ� Mr:, -Fernandez:- Yes, it would read like this, -a 'resolution of the Miami City . Commissionauthorizing and approving the execution of a participation agreement •to:evidence the loaning of `funds from 'the First Municipal Loan Council's<Pooled' Loan Program to the City of Miami; Florida, subject to, or conditioned upon the Department of Off Street Parking, their board, passing the same resolution.' Mrs.'Kennedy: So moved.. Mayor Suarez: Moved. ,a Mr.::De Yurre: Second;'. pmi r n Mayor Suarez: Secondi Anv;discussion? Call the roll`.'.. r u oaf ! "1 - � ;}y:-�.£'}`P•k$�" 7-7 77-777777_, The following resolution vas introduced by Commissioner Kennedy, who moved its adoptions RESOLUTION NO. 89-461 A RESOLUTION, WITH ATTACHMENT, OF THE MIAMI CITY _ COMMISSION AUTHORIZING AND APPROVING THE EXECUTION OF A PARTICIPATION AGREEMENT BY THE DEPARTMENT OF OFF- STREET PARKING, IN SUBSTANTIALLY THE FORM ATTACHED, TO EVIDENCE THE LOANING OF FUNDS FROM THE FIRST MUNICIPAL LOAN COUNCIL'S POOLED LOAN PROGRAM TO THE CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA, SAID APPROVAL BEING SUBJECT TO APPROVAL OF THE PARTICIPATION AGREEMENT BY THE OFF- STREET PARKING BOARD. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Vice -Mayor De Yurre, the resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote: AYES: Commissioner Rosario Kennedy Commissioner Miller Dawkins _ Vice Mayor Victor De Yurre Mayor Xavier L. Suarez NOES: None. ABSENT: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. 58. DISCUSSION BY OVERTOWN TASK FORCE ON STATUS OF PROJECTS IN'OVERTOWN 7' AREA - Waive deed restrictions for possible housing units. Mayor Suarez: How quick is your report, Jeff, on Overtown? Because I can —' keep it for last, if you want to take a little time. Mr. De Yurre: Short and sweet? Mr. Jeffrey Watson: Yes, that sounds good, short and sweet. Very quick, you requested a diagram of the area and it es' put together b Downtown ' ' 9 g - Y P 8 Y Development Authority indicating the target area and the surrounding areas of Overtown;proper. What you have is a<report =based =on the five specific areas ys or projects thatwe were planning on dealing with and I thought we were charged to look at. In additiow to that, a question that name about `from Commissioner De Yurre With respect to a property located... Mr. De Yurre: At Third and 5th? Mr. Watson: Third Avenue between 5th Street and N.W. 4th Avenue. I move the firsts item was the St. John's townhouse development project, there were a. couple of meetings had with them and Babcock Company, the bottom line is that Babcock decided that they were not interested in doing what St. John '.a,, in 'i fact, wanted them to do. And as a result, they areonlyinterested as relates to.townhouses at 'the location that we'have, in"effect, given to 3t'. John:'s as' being contractors: The block that's on 5th ' Street and `N.W' - 4th `Avenue "i vacant parcel 'of -property that -we; in fact, own, wi"tti the exception ,of two'aots f that we either hav W to• go to court` and get"from the •county to bi;1 ble ta" take the restrictions off. or. just ."ask- them` and see if it den bi: done 'that waq. •; ' F` r ^3p Mr. De .,Yurre: ' _'.What' restrictions do "'we havethere? ' ' We hove some county r ;� r` r y, restrictions, right? y t -r .k itin-S Mr. Watson: They're 'county dead' rest rict'ions''as to what could be done with k ; 1 those two lots. Hr-i.-De :Yprret . OK, but "if" this ''Commission' felt that,. and 1. think gtood location for housing. x s ry 210�{a . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . S;tkjM1`G_�' i A E .N4 _ _ - _- _ __ f;w i 4 _-�.'i•S.y i __ - Mr. Watson: It to a very good location for housing, looked at it, reviewed it and the soning is proper. However, as it relates to St. John's, as it relates to that area, if you're familiar with the articles that was in the paper a week ago, two weeks ago, Betty Walker's housing project is three blocks north = of that area. We felt, in looking at it, that until some other things were dote that for sale housing, at this time, was not a good idea with respect to volunteers of America. If, in fact, there is to be a 202 project done in Overtown, we feel that the City's resources should go behind St. John's _ because we just don't think it's a good idea for them to move forward trying to sell homes because of the current problem, as it exists, and support St. John's in doing a 202 housing development. We have to support someone. If we're going to support someone, we might as well be a local CDC. Mr. De Yurre: But that doesn't mean that we can't use that property and have it developed for housing. Mr. Watson% It does not mean we cannot use that property. Mr. De Yurres OK. Mr. Watson: That's what I mean, you can use that property. — Mr. De Yurres Mr. Mayor. — Mayor Suarez% Yes. Mr. De Yurre: On this property on 3rd and 5th - 5th and 4th - that I'm sure - that we're all familiar with it, it's right across from Moons. = Mayor Suarers Can you point to it on the map, if you would, Jeff? Mr. De Yurres This property is zoned for housing. However, there are some deed restrictions created by the county that need to be done away with. Mayor Suarez: It's owned by whom right now? = Mr. Watsons County. =* — Mr. De Yurre: The county. What I would like to do is to make 'a motion to'go to the county... Mayor'Suarez: Ask the county to waive the deed... 'rx= Mr. De Yurre: ... to waive those deed restrictions... Mayor Suarez: ... or release the deed restrictions? 4 Mr. De Yurres ...:so that we may go ahead and proceed with the possible development of some housing units there. Mayor Suarez: So moved and seconded. Any discussion? Call the roll. The following resolution x-as introduced by Commissioner De Yurre, who, =:r moved its adoption: i RESOLUTION NO. 89-462 A ? RESOLUTION: URGING METROPOLITAN DADE COUNTY TO RELEASE THE CITY OF MIAMI FROM DEED RESTRICTIONS } IMPOSED' ON: PROPERTY LOCATED` AT. APPROXIMATELY. NORTHWEST 4TH AVENUE AND NORTHWEST STH STREET (ACROSS FROM MOONS :.- IN-;.OVERTOWN). ; IN. ORDER - THAT THE CITY MAY PROCEED:. Tp PRESENT PLANS FOR POSSIBLE DEVELOPMENT OF. HOUSING ° -- _ UNIT$- ON:-• SAID. SITE -,.AND PROVIDING: AN'`, EFFECTIVE DATE.il3y . (Here body ':of resolution;':osaltted.here and, asfH file in the Office of the City Clerk,) iipoa.bolas wecondo by Commissioner Ronnady, the resolution was psssp " ' i� an¢ adopted by the following votee 04 GM _ an 211 K — AYES: Commissioner Rosario Kennedy Commissioner Miller Dawkins Vice Mayor Victor De Yurre Mayor Xavier L. Suarez NOES: None. ASSENT: Commissioner J.L. Plummer, Jr. Mayor Suarers Has there been any thought given, and I think I asked you the other day and that you were beginning to tell me about it, to an .archway s structure coming off the expressway into Overtown that would welcome one to the historic district? Somebody told me there might be a design over there some place by Ron Fraser or somewhere in the City. u Mr. Watson: I don't know if that's included. I don't think that's included In the historic villages proposal and plan but, I mean, that's something that can be looked at. Mayor Suarez: How much funding do we have for the historic village right now? Actual capital improvements? filbert. — Mr. Elbert Waters: Good. evening, Mr. Mayor and Commissioners. Elbert Waters, Planning.' Department. With respects to the master plan. for the historic village, while the,doeument is in its final stage, it has not been completely produced. What it envisions, answering the first part of your questions to Marcus, there is a .concept in the plan which identifies what is called a _ historic marker identification. The corner of N.B. 3rd Avenue right at the _ expressway: at 5th-.has a, _I would say, a marker which would embrace ;the entranceway to the.village. Mayor Suarez: I was thinking of a nice, you know, arch way that would really, really invite you like you have... Mr. Waters: A, final design hasn't been.... - Mayor Suarez:. .., going Anto, you know, ,Chinatown. in some cities, -.that kind of stuff and ;here the Latin•,Quarter Specialty Center, -has ;a nice.archway;over -- S.W. 8th Street too. Mr. .,Waters:., That.:idea was incorporated: within the plan. However, ,the final design,,,, what it ..:should look- .like. -and that sort ,of, thing-, , has , not,° been ;5K— completed. rs Mayor Suarez: And howare we doing on funding? I know we're applying for, {= some monies from the legislature. _s}„ Mr. Waters With respects to funding, sir, we... Mayor Suarez: The Carver House, is , g ' y part of that ; ri ht? .:..The -Carver Hotel? , - Mr. Mr. Waters: The Carver Hotel is a part of the village. That particular.Ji site... Mayor Suarez; The former- Overtown Economic Development building is part of T that too, right? ` Mr. Waters: It is It's within the district. Mayor Suarez: And that's,owned by whom? By us? s Mr. W� at e1'B: 11,p pot .sure, , Mr....Mayo�. — ' ,X — Mayor The former Overtown because thst's... no? "3;frj Mr, Waters: Not , We don't, Aa I under and t We Maya ,8u�arers ¢QmebodY, has a proposal for that*_, 0411 We hive 21, proposia2 for that? } �4hh_` Mrs• u ated�l� gip! .lt Oct t OZI k M �J } : ttri9n 7 ,.i . i .. , • . . , ,. . . • , x _, e 5`sBE �fivdf' 4 Mayor Suarez: Do we have any funding for that that's being requested? Mr. haters: We really have not identified any funding, per as, Mr. Mayor. Once the doeument is completed, we plan to sit down City staff, to try to put _ forth the financing forr the implementation of the village. Mayor Suarez: Mr. Manager, we've got a problem. I got to ask you about this. We have been kicking around the Overtown historic village for at least two years, I guess, and I know we've applied to the legislature for funding this year. Do we have any other funding identified? We're not going to wait till we get the tax increment district? Mr. Waters: Let Mr. Bailey answer that. Mayor Suarez: Herb, is that the only... Mr. Herb Baileys We have already begun to develop a strategy for assembling all of the land between Sth and loth Street which represents the historic site... Mayor Suarez: Right along 3rd Avenue. Mr. Bailey: On 3rd Avenue and Second. We have identified all the property owners, we have ordered appraisals so we can determine just how we can best start negotiating acquisitions. We have already been approached by several property owners who are willing to sell. That was... - Mayor Suarez Did we have any safe neighborhoods applications for either grants or for development or... Mr. Bailey: No, it wouldn't work in that area, Mr. Mayor. I tell you, we have, through the tax increment process, we will either go to the market and sell a tax increment bond or we will borrow additional section'108 money as'we have `discussed depending on which is cheaper. And out of those monies, now that we're probably deferring the payment of the first loan that we've had and we do not have to make that payment, we hope by'August `a'lot of that money we will get on the second `loan will do two things: finish the 'development >of the mall and start the acquisition process for the historic district. We're also r: approached by a local developer as it relates to the FEC (Florida East Coast). towers., That it may be possible that FEC will negotiate another loam with the _ City similar to what we've done when we borrowed the money to widen N.W. let Avenue as a gesture to help assemble the land in the historic district. Mayor Suarez: OK, but... - Mr. Bailey: So we've identified sufficient monies, we just have to put the strategy together. Mayor Suarez: You're an eternal optimist and that's why you're good at what` you do.1.- . - W- Mr. Bailey: That's the only way you can be in this business. Mayor Suarez: I know, I know. Mr. Odio: So far, we have two... Mayor Suarez: But specifically, we've asked the state for how mush? Mr. ` Odio:- Two 'hundred and fifty tl ousind. We 4 have it coming out o P committee, Senator Meek is championing the cause and we dust hope, the h pus r�� 4-ill' kecp;- it ` in: !That's' what.. Magor Suarez: We've got, hopefully, from the Overtown Do4olopment Distri.Vt ; the total -bondable capacity you had told me was about twelve million Mr. Bailey. We [ Mayor Suarez. .. two'or two `and 'a halt` and' costs and 44;ij 4thsO-M, sre hay i�z -- to: p►y `b'ack elthough we now have a reprieve on part of it so thatrsly pang"� about $ins million. r $ 47- -- i Mr. $alley: Well, to assemble the first block, which is between 8th and 9th Street, and that is the first block that we will target and that's where ,the church is, it will cost us between three nrid a half to four million. We have _ enough money to do that. We will be able to assemble the historic village site, at least. the first block as soon as we put all the little pieces in place. Mayor Suarez: But you see, at least for myself, I would give higher priority to the portions that are right on 3rd Avenue bringing you into the neighborhood, that's why I was... Mr. Baileys That's where it is - it's between 2nd and 3rd and 8th and 9th...41 Mayor Suarez: Yes, that's what I was thinking of Carver... Mr. Bailey: Yes, it's that block. Mayor .Suarez: ... and the Overtown Economic Development building. Does anybody have any specific plans for that building? Mr. Bailey: Every building in there will be demolished except the church. Mayor Suarez: OK. - Mrs. Kennedy: Herb, who are the owners of those lots? Mr. Bailey: There's a whole bunch of them. The union, the Longshoremen Union owns most of the property. We have, scattered, you know, people who own. there is a variety of people who are in ownership. We have the list, Commissioner, and I can make it available to you. The list is already tabulated and we have all the tax information about the property. Mayor Suarez: Can we grab a Secretary of Housing and Urban Development when he's.down on June 5th.and give him a quick little presentation of this? Mr. Bailey:- That is part of the tour.. The presentation we'll be making oa June..5th. is a real blown out process of where we were, where we are and what were doing .and there will be a bus tour to take them on the site. „ Mayor;Suarez: And,.. of this kind.of an ambitious... Mr Bailey.: Yes.. Mayor. Suarez. -:.., you know, integrated development or holistic or whatever ';� you call Mr. Bailey: We will talk about that. Yes, this will be part of the =j presentation that we make. Mayor Suarez: _OK, and you .think you can issue bonds on the tax increment ;y district by August? ,e Mr. Bailey: We have to begin - it's important that we begin to establish our.. credibility in the market on tax increment otherwise we'll never get the' zK}fY entire project developed. =l`. Mayer Suarez: Yes. Mr. )Bailey: We; do.havea good,.,basis for issuing bonds now. We just have to'; determine.how'we assemble the resources to support the bonds. Mayor Suarez: Are we having to move very quickly on the St. John's E�onomiic: �r Development prof Oct .that, closes_ off. 2nd Street or 2nd, Te. rrace, or 2nd Street? ,t atson: Welly not necessarily here but review .the recommendations of a�o44 n w i - -N. yitd.� grief.; +� alysiv,, because if rthey then . sre allowed; to ao 2Q2 hnup qs o`r Oome,�,Ap of other housing venture, then, you wouldn't start.na,for sale houisin There J �� shay,. 4rere�►:" t anticipated. And that's' what that . is. Tiiey'te ° cloang st r o f;4h " thit :street.'► jr T . k ^4 e�rt�fn 270 14��+� M1 y y 41, 3 Mayor Suarez: But remember that the idea too is to close off the street and use that for something, the land area where the street now is. Mr. Watson: Well, if they want to proceed, how fast they do it is up to them. Mayor Suarez: OK, but we're not behind on that, we're not - one thing is not behind the other... Mr. Watson: No, not to my knowledge. The only two things he wanted to get on the record was, one, as relates to a health care facility in Overtown of which Public Health Trust was interested. We located a building that discussions Are going on with Ira Clark that he felt was a good location and it apparently with some rezoning, it can be used for that. Mayor Suarez: Which is that, is that shown on there? Mr. Watson: On Sth Avenue and llth Street - oh, it's 1009 N.W. Sth Avenue. Mayor Suarez: We should put that on there because that one actually is more likely than some of the other ones. I hate to say it, because we've got that in the Governor's budget. Mr. Watson: Yes. Mrs. Kennedy: That's right. — Mayor Suarez: And this Commission has approved it and I think that we've had the necessary feedback from Ira Clark on it, right? Mr. Watson: Yes, and it had a recommendation as a location for the Miami Heat _ project. They have, in fact, hired a consultant to move forward because... Mayor Suarez: What is the consultant's name, does anybody remember? Because I met him. Mr. Watson: Reggie Richardson. Reggie Richardson, they've hired a..:. -{- Mayor Suarez: 'And we're going to hear back from them as to whether they =` — : accept our- recommendations and all of that and we can hopefully... OK,_ anything further, Commissioners? Yes. Mr. Watsons Just one other point, Mr. Mayor,'for'the record, with regards to - the safe neighborhood projects, they're located outside of = the'redevelopment' — area. The Overtown Shopping Center being one which' -is 3rd :Avenue -and=about a -_ 16th, I'm sorry and then the St. John's project which is again just north ofr the redevelopment area - 3rd Avenue and approximately 14th. ;u Mayor Suarez: The St. John's is outside of this? UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: Yes. Mayor Suarez: No, it's is there. Isn't it?' z +,`lf INAUDIBLE COMMENTS NOT ENTERED INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD. "fit Mr. Watson: I'm sorry, the Overtown Shopping Center at N.W. 3rd Avenue and`. right at 15th Street. S X.--,..:.a Mayor Suarez: Yea, that's inside the map there, all of it.r Mr. Watson:- I'm'sorry, the redevelopment area is here, Mayor�Suarez... Oh, -you mean, the tax increment district. Mr. Watson -'Taalincrement district. ' - r t:4, _ Mayon Suarez: Oh, OK.- f - Mr, Watson i ' OK Mayor Suarez: All right. y.t 210 1 l - t S , 5", - Mr. Watson: 'Thank you; that's.., Mayor Suarez: But the St. John's project is inside? Mr. Waterst No, sir, the St. John's project is located up in this - these two f> general areas. x Mayor Suarez: Between 13th and 14th. Mr. Waters: Yes, along 3rd Avenue. Mayor Suarez: Oh, I thought that was still inside, OK. Maybe we ought to extend it. We don't have too many funds coming from it anyhow. I suppose ` they got to be first earmarked for the historic village to create a nice entrance into Overtown. Thank you. 59. A) DIRECT ADMINISTRATION TO EARMARK $1,500,000 FOR PURCHASE OF LAND REGARDING DEVELOPMENT OF THE LATIN QUARTER DISTRICT - Request Manager to draft two definite proposals. B) DIRECT MANAGER TO EARMARK $500,000 (PREVIOUSLY EARMARKED FOR HOUSING IN LITTLE HAVANA) FOR THE LATIN QUARTER DISTRICT.PROJECT. - Mayor: Suarez: Item 59, Mayor'a Latin Quarter task force. I think 'I've created a monster. Mr. Jorge Lescano: My. name is Jorge Lescano. The address 1500 S.W. Sth Street. I.am a member of the Mayor's task force on the Latin Quarter district and I'll be introducing some of the speakers, 'there'll be several" on this _ issue. .I 'have a. very short statement on behalf of the task forcer that I would like to,read to you. The area of Miami known as,the Latin Quarter is decaying socially and economically. _ Commercial vacancies and businesses exodus 'is on . _ the.rise'. Blighted housing conditions continue. to spread: in* the area Those conditions must not. be left unattended. On April loth, 19H9, a letter `was addressed to the Mayor,, the Vice Mayor and members of'th'a Commission ',That letter,requested.that a series of action be taken as soon as•possible Due to the time involved, those who are going to be speaking to you this evening will be .addressing strictly the specialty center issue which. is the, most '. aignifscant`item in a list of very important projects. It isn't. just one issue, there are .several, but speakers will be addressing that one, The first r., person who's going to, be addressing. you. is Willy Berme1lo, discussing the ; — Profe.f thess ecialtY center. Willy. ect oz Mr. Willy Bermello: Mr. Mayor, members of. the Commission, I know that you're' tired so,, I will try to be brief in my remarks, but; rit's'no secret why'we. re e ' here tonight. As you look in the audience, what we need from you is assistance.. y Mr: De Yurre: Excuse me, have you renewed.youi license to be here tonight? a Mr. B_ermello: March'.26th, Commissioner De Yurre. U. s t Mayor Suarez: Willy,,I,., Mr ,.Bermello:.,. ,What.,,, Mayor Suarez: .. respect you -and like you and_x'm )tappy,that`you are &ct ►e 4�q in. this effort.,but you're. really here, not oniy as .an advocate you beh:# T urn xho c` tm�un ty, but you're also , here ypcpuso �'ou, are 'the - chosen` arct itec� fob _ � �_ ..st the project, are ,.you not? MrBzmsilos dell we've ,completed pur work,tr. Ma)►or.Er..� sx `` r't'xy ;at�7:t ayor.Suatez, YgW Ve compieted•,your work now? tea f.. , i'11 s Bermelloi aBC in 87 % ' iV t J 4 E b K sY Mayor Suarets There's no guarantee that you would be the architect for the action. Mr. Sermellos Absolutely none. Mayor Suarez: OK, all right. Mr. Bermellos Absolutely none. As a matter of fact, aside from the fact... Mayor Suarez: You're not under contract now... Mr. 8ermellos No, sir. And I haven't... ass Mayor Suarez: with the Off -Street Parking Authority or with anyone else to... OK. Mr. germello: I have not been for two years. Mayor Suarez: All right. Mr. Bermello:As a matter of fact... Mayor Suarez: Then you can wear the little thing that says, I support this... Mr. Bermello: . Most definitely and, as a matter of fact, I want to - aside from the fact that we're here to request that you tonight instruct administration to use all of its energies and innovative ability in finding $6 million dollars to make this project a reality so that we can move forward with a unified development proposal type of project. Commissioner De Yurre's asked a little 'while ago, when did this project start? And Mr. Jack Mulvena- said, three years ago. Weli,,I'd like to expand on that a second because in 1977,' 12 years ago', the late Leslie Pantin,' Sr., Luis Sabines 'wasp ` here, Willy ; _ _ Gort, Raul Alearez ours truly, r y y, and other members of the Little Havana Development Authority. We conceived an idea -that ve' needed to'have in" this ' r community of ours, a center, a focal point of attraction,, a microcosm of Hispanic culture in Miami, a place where_residents 'and visitors "alike could come `to see, to taste, to'enjoy"the best that Miami'.a Hispanic community has to offer. That is a dream that has never' died 'over thelast 12 years. It is� _ a'dream that"is still alive today. _ rri _ c t (Applause)'. tar Bermello: I' 1964; with the coming of Sergio Rodriguez =and"I think''it's important td"mention because you do have -some very committed -staff in the City_ � of Miami that have really helped us. Aside from you. and the Commission. And Sergio ;Rodriguez' and the LHDA (Little Havana ' DevelopMent' Authority): at that time were "able to work-together'hand in hand In developing rphat is today;`tfi�e ? _. Latin Quarter district ordinance SPI=14 which you approved 'in' -September of"'84 : and in'185, on January -you created the Latin" of '85 , Y Quarter Revievr' Boartl. ' In ,n the summer of 186, I had lunch -'with Herb Bailey, Roger Carlton,-' and Frantino Perez is here and although he didn' pickup °4 the tabs he was -there.` And we said' ,`tvhat'can we do.: Mayor Suarez: He never picks up the tab. Mr. Bermelloi What can we do to'make this a`reality? Well., tha Deportment of .. Off -Street 'Parking took the initiative and as a result of that, in 187.rour x.w firm was the selected and we worked with the Department of Off' Street Parking i doing a"market and feasibility study that said there is a loGatioa in;; y. Latin Quarter at the corner of,15th and 8th Street tQ,,deyelop a spec ail F y�ax eenter" with, a bun re , 'thousand.° square feet. of spec`ialtq retail, 'ia 4OO ar 4� parking garage, ,a minfmum' of 65 "resitlential rental apartment units. But tta� to do that, there would have to .be - a special ublic gas P F Pr$vato rely lbi . f yE d'P..y,R y That` ttie 'Oity, . jttitrt` aa'' it's` done in Overtown; the way.;ittat ;it played thast tssle .� i» Baysid4,.bp leveraging Its assets, would have : to Dome fptrward': f first and;ibuy�{��k' r `isacause ttia bottois`ne' i5 'that': private deYelopment# fight 1o1i►, r}ot go_ into the urea and, yQu all know, that in; ,srpite ';of ail the, o+pd;,*" 8 that they ti • stln 'azte�r d axrict °hail done inn terms cf.: ievLtalig beauti )r, �pit il tie ,__pzeeence of.."1trept': crime andthe oi►erailoQe `evar►tha�gw've done` w € 10- T1, K sr Mayor Suarez: Let me ask you a question because you're comparing it to Bayside and Overtown park/hest and bvertown Park/nest, first phase, and Herb is still around here, maybe can correct my numbers, probably the land acquisition has been, I don't know, at the most $10 million just for that first phase. — Mr. Bailey: We spent, in the first phase, roughly $32 million dollars. Mayor Suarez: But how much of that is for the 1139 units we're now building? Mr. Bailey: In land acquisition, we - in land acquisition, eleven and a half, seven million, 21 million dollars approximately. That's the land acquisition, assembly, that's demolition, relocation and all the costs associated with it. Mayor Suarez: But you include, I think, more than 1139 units in that. Mr. Bailey: Well, that's for 28 acres, now, in terms of the number of units, that's 1900 units that we propose, however, we did put the Arena there... Mayor Suarez: Yes, so it may be, so I'd shop for ten million for 1139 units and maybe 12 or so. For the ones that are in this very first... Mr. Bailey: The first phase is - right, 1100 units. ' Mayor Suarez: And the total cost of those units will be what, the total project cost of ...? Mr. Bailey: Cruz is 32 million, twenty-five... ` Mayor Suarez: Somewhat over a hundred million? Mr. Bailey: ... fifty-seven million - no, around 65 million dollars. Mayor Suarez: OK,. it's about a six to one factor and I was talking to Mr. Mulvena the other day because Bayside, to compare it to Bayside, see, Bayside, the City, puts. the, land, which is totally ours, so it's the factor - the . leverage factor of how much the project costs compared to the cost of the land cost.- not.the value -.the value is obviously high - is like an infinite, it's an infinite leverage, I mean, we get a huge amount of investment for land that is already, ours.. In this case we have to buy it, Latin Quarter specialty center,`and'I asked Jack, why is it - and maybe you, as an architect can give=; me an idea that this requires, the project.that he's.now.telling me about, it`. requires_ seven million dollars., worth of land acquisition fora 24..million dollars worth of, building? That almost one-third, two to one. Mr. Bermello: No,, Mr. Mayor, the numbers are as follows, the: actual land acquisition is 3.8 llion dollarsuin addition to acquiring the land, the existing buildings that you.have to demolish, people and businesses,that might have, to be relocated and you have to prepare the site., environmental analysis`and.you have to procure the land. h" Mayor Suarez: I'm sorry, but land acquisition usually includes the relocation ;k of any businesses' that are there. I mean, otherwise, what are you acquiring? You mean ,you're acquiring the fee simple without the leases, you mean? ?rf; Mr. Bermello: The 3.8 basically is just the assessed land value of.the lots involved. Mayor Suarez; Right.' trf T ' Mr. Bermello: So we're talking about 3.8 - already the Department of Off k Street Barking has.,spent a cumulative total... Mayor Suarez: One point two.7� „ Mr Bermello: of 1:2 million dollars. T -, Mayor Suarez: Right, OK• ��' !!r. B,prgello; ,Btt itr,BoaR, ,dust, bpyond.,0olla,rs„artld sense., We ''re taiMln� +about - i y, t p 'tonight. a community, - and ou know, we re not here to try to: taRe� any.tp #B assay w rQm Rv¢rta s pr ' to try► ta; take .apl+thinB away , fF9m Coconut Grove: t ►ate t _� . 2 pp R. e}.,r4 h rrTt a Is not our intent in Little Havana or the Latin Quarter. All that we're saying is, we have a community that needs a need, we have a community that have helped, will help itself and we have a community that we still believe has a future. But we need your assistance here tonight. And we're looking for more than just talk on our part and on your part. 'We're looking for action. Mr. De Yurre: What do you propose? Mr, Bermello: We're proposing that you adopt a resolution tonight... Mr. De Yurre: Which says? Mr. Bermello: instructing the administration to its best effort in finding alternatives of funding sources to acquire, relocate and prepare the land so you can move forward with a VDP process and that they come back to you and they say to you, Commission, these are the alternatives that we have in terms of finding the necessary sources. But that you take a step tonight. We have a dream and that is that in 1992, we're going to be celebrating the 500th Anniversary of Christopher Columbus discovery of America. And we think that it will be appropriate that in Miami we have a show piece of Hispanic culture in our City and we think that should be that Hispanic show piece. (Applause) Mr. Dawkins: On the model, Willy, which of the units are residential? Mr. Bermello: Commissioner Dawkins, they wrap around the project... We have all around an "L" shaped —we have three stories of 65 dwelling units. Now 65 dwelling units... Mr. Dawkins: Where now? Where? Mr. Bermello:. It's sight here. Mr. Dawkins: Right there. Mr. Bermello: It's mixed use development... Mr. Dawkins: Mixed use. Mr. Bermello: ... mixed use - now 65 number because we were' assuming that Dade County surtax funds, dwelling units was a very conservative we -could hopefully tap the surtax, the Mr. Dawkins: OK, the back piece, the higher piece, what's on that land now? Mr. Bermello: A portion of that is vacant because the. Department of Off ,r Street Parking has already acquired the lots that were formerly owned by Cruz =; Pino and Perez. ' Mr. Dawkins: That's where El Pub was. a Mr. Bermello: That's correct, that's where E1 Pub. ;K is Mr. Dawkins: And then behind it... ru Mr. Bermello: Behind, there's... o Mr. Dawkins: ... so how much back there you have to acquire back there? , _ Mr. Bermello: There is a house here and a series of older buildings .. The" . :Mr. ---;Dawkins: No, I'm just talking, -:-let"s take;,that carver over, t#ere,�t.gt there, = i_ ry 6tk4 w Mr, Bermello; This corner right here? Mr, Dawkins: Yes. Now, what doy we have to acquire there?ee- Me., Bermallos The le family hou 219# 4 0 Mr. bawkina: Thank you. Mr. be Yurre: Mr. Mayor. Mayor Suarez: Yes, Mr. `Vice Mayor. Mr. De Yurre: I'd like to wake a proposal here: We, this morning, okayed the sale of some property that's worth - we're going to get about four million dollars - and the estimated replacement is around 2.4 million. I would say to , show how committed we are to getting this thing going and finally, you know, get it finalized, that we commit whatever's left over of that four million s dollars, you know, around a million and a half, towards the purchase of land 3 to keep this program going. Mr. Dawkins: Second. Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded and I... the Commissioner had told me, Commissioner Kennedy had also told me today that Representative Morse would really - we haven't mentioned in all of this, but is really kind of the heart and soul of this committee, has gotten it, the $400,000 in the legislation from the House., We spoke to Senator Margolis for the Senate to have the same I legislation and, hopefully, this legislative session we can get another four hundred thousand from the legislature, so I think if this motion passes and we i get the four hundred thousand from the State, we're well on our way towards completing -the..; Mr. De Yurre: That's two million dollars right there. = Mr. Odio: Mr. Mayor. Mayor Suarez: Yes, Mr. Manager. Mr. Odio: May;I.propose.that by July 13th we'll come back; with 'at least two. definite proposals so what .you can choose that we can do there. Mr. De Yurre: :OK. Mr. Odio: And if we... K Mayor Suarez:..,By when, by.when?. Mr. Odio: July, 13th,<,that!s.the__last meeting... 4 Mr.. -Dawkins: :Let's pass this motion, I got another one coming. Mrs. - Kennedy.;.,:. 1 ,also have to state -on the record that Senator Ros Lehtinen got us a hundred thousand in the Senate also for this project. k Mayor Suarez: OK, but.that's not an addition.to the four hundred,thousaad on the House. Mr. De Yurre;. Well,..that's part:.of the.iour.... Mayor Suarers No? Mr.. Odio: ,l want the... d - Mrs, ,Kennedy: I don't know.t� Mr.. Ae Yurre s. That a part{ of the f our. fE h 4: � J y § h N �e�RF It1 t9'1 1 rq,f,Onns dy1 frob4bly Maya•Suarez: 'It the .,get xo be,s patrt- o. the in fact, it sounds like';'it":his t4_ . be .improved up to four hundred -because you Sot to get them is both housao,' reme�uber, t dq�ssa t,: wq. jup-t Mrs. Kennedys 'it's probably, , . you're right, it's probably pax; otr . ,. __ •� p,r t4 Ci x W z Odlos mr, .That'$ right. 5. � •, r L T,FI A�bt��a 34�'[1.aai.f rr4 x.,:.. . x {, ._ .a .. _ . • .. •5z. ,. _ ... ,.`'` { • -, .._ .. , u �.�..er.�i .f3.,' - _`v.. I don't understand what you're sayiAg. Mayor 8uar®sf Now, mere are you YOU Mr. Odio: I would like to bring back July 13th, two definite proposals of what we think we can do there. Mayor Suarez} I don't know what you're saying. Mr. Odio: July thirteenth. Mayor Suarezi July thirteenth, all right, thank you. Mr. Dawkins: You Cubans don't understand each other? Mayor Suarez: Julio 13. Mr. Odio: No, especially when they're from Harvard. Mayor Suarez: El trees de Julio. We do have refresher courses up there. Mr. Odio: I need to go back. But I asked the Department of Development to look at.two proposals that we. of another one coming up. - Mr. Dawkins: OK, but let's pass this motion, I g - Mayor Suarez: A11 right. We have a motion and a second. Any discussion? If not, call the roll. The following motion was introduced by Commissioner De Yurre, who moved its adoption: _ 4 MOTION NO. 89-463 THE HEREINABOVE MOTION IS CONTAINED IN RESOLUTION'89-464. <' Upon being seconded by Commissioner Dawkins, the motion was passed and adopted:'by=the following vote: AYES: ..:Commissioner -Rosario Kennedy ' Commissioner Miller Dawkins f- vice Mayor Victor' De Yurre Y 4" Mayor Xavier L. Suarez '�qqqqq one. NOES: N4 ABSENT:Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. r, F $ Mr. Dawkins: Mr. Mayor, and fellow commissioners, when we took the million 1{r dollars to purchase Camillus House, I also said that we hould take,:.a million dollars and purchase land in Liberty City and I also said Little Havana; -But the'paper'eaid Little Haiti so �i'd like to 'correct' that now -by making a'inatieri �s Which says that the million dollars be split to buy the $500000 worth of land- in Liberty City and to purchase that back part of that land over there. so that jV* can get oa with doing the units. Mrs -Kennedys Second. — (Applause) . Mayor $uarezr "Let tithe record -ref lect that'} the godfathez� pis blesringEe�ili, �8 this; I =don}t' know. And the Latia Chamber of Commerce is:going to cantribut�a f .. 1+ ` another,half a million dollars from -its .own coffers. Iu�t J [ i 3 s ' t 2 Mr.` .Dawkines No, 'that' can't do that. Call the rail! Mayor guarex: QK, �►e have , a motion and a mscond t, f vFISK qp1-. f �2j,_ The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Da*kiht, who moved its adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 89-464 A RESOLUTION DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO SET ASIDE _ $1,500.000 FROM PROCEEDS OBTAINED THROUGH THE SALE BY THE CITY OF CERTAIN CITY -OWNED LAND TO MIAMI DADE COMMUNITY COLLEGE AND TO SET ASIDE $500,000 FROM 1989- 90 COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ROAD IMPROVEMENT FUNDS FOR LAND ACQUISITION IN THE LATIN QUARTER DISTRICT OF THE CITY; FURTHER DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO INITIATE THE DRAFTING OF REQUESTS FOR PROPOSALS ("FRPs") FORa TWO SEPARATE PROPOSED UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS ("UDPa") IN CONNECTION WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF A LATIN QUARTER SPECIALTY CENTER FOR CITY COMMISSION REVIEW AND COMMENT IN JULY 1989. (Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on file in the Office of the City Clerk.) Upon being seconded by Commissioner Kennedy, the resolution was passed and adopted by the following vote: AYES: Commissioner Rosario Kennedy Commissioner Miller Dawkins _— Vice'Mayor Victor De Yurre Mayor Xavier L. Suarez i' NOES: None. ABSENT: -Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. Mayor Suarez: This has been a very important project in Little Havana. I think we'd better make no more motions, you'd better just go away at this point. Mr. De Yurre: Thank you very much. We got no more money. =j Mr. Dawkins- Go away and sin no more. Mayor Suarez: We got no more money. a Mr. Bermello: Members of the Commission, I would like to introduce the person that has worked very, very hard.' He's the co-chairman of the Mayor's task force on Latin Quarter. He co-chairs this task force with Representative Morse and he's really responsible for having all of the neighbors and business tz_ people from the Latin Quarter here tonight, Mr. Estevan Torres. (Applause) - Mayor Suarez: Do you have a translation for your business? It's La Casa de }{ los'Trucos. 3 s�Mr: Estevan Torres: Si. 3, Mayor''Suarers Yes, that's what you did to us today, but go ahead. % — Mr: Torres:' -(Translated by Mr.' Odio). I want you to know that in reality, ali.� the -`merchants helped'; him in the area. I om very grateful to' all"the mexdhants _ and neighbors=that; came here and I supported'this.' There 'In nothing el a he r -'; has to say so thank God, goodbye. 4 hn _ Al 7tF E j 71'N y T r M 0Y •".`Nm S{ta , xk. .- .r .. .. a - . e n ♦ . _ tti r e w : �*�:i'^TtJ+J]'r. x 60. REQUEST RECOMMENDATION FROM MANAGER ON POSSIBLE RESTRICTION OP HOURS OF OPERATION Off' BARS IN THE CITY OF MIAMI - Direct City Attorney to draft a more restrictive ordinance. — ------- --- — ----------------------------------- Mayor Suarez: item 60, is that - Item 60, anybody on item 60 here? Mr. Dawkins: Item 60# who's on...? Oh, there she is, OK. Mayor Suarez: The area that you're concerned with is what particular part of S.W. Sth Street? Mo. Maria Aho: Well, between 27 on down. Mayor Suarez: Twenty-seventh all the way into downtown? Me. Maria Abot Not necessarily, but at least as far as 12th Street 12th Avenue rather. 'Mayor Suarez: That's all of that we know as West Little Havana for lack of a better word. Ms. Maria Aho: West Little Havana. Mayor -Suarez: But any.particular area because a lot of times if you tell us about a more specific area, if you narrow it down a little bit, we can perhaps impact it more. Ms. Maria Ahoi Mayor, if we: could narrow it dow-i, I wouldn't be here. mean, this - is going on all over the pla(ia. ..My.,name is Maria.,Aho ,,and the reason-we!re here is that although I've heard a lot of proposals made and we support the Latin Quarter and I hear astronomical numbers asking for money.... Mayor Suarez: Well today it wasn't a matter today it wasn't a matter of numbers, today we took some very specific action but go ahead.. Ma..Aho: WLatIlm.asking I s, it.'s.not, going to cost that much. We need more. ' police assistance in the area. There are a lot of crack dealers, there's.:' -prostitution and.althoughthis Latin Quarter thing is, great i., you, know, 'I?y,. the, A,ime,you...guys finish-'constructing,it, there's not going to be a Little avana_ left.' And what we're asking is not that much money. We need more officers. ..Thisneed more what we need. We a officers,,not only in the night, we,'nee d it daytime also because we're the residents... I think, on S.W. 8th Street of a .Mayor. Suarez.: know, one idea that ll places, would work quite well, we got a major owner of a building on Biscayne Boulevard,, the,.Bacardi people, to donate, to, the City a horse for use as, mounted.police and we'd love... . . . . . . . . . . Me. Aho: That is great. We will support that. If you guys will give it to. us " we're great. I. mean, just tell him, we want it, .we want it, go ahead we'll take anything right now. Mayor Suarez: But they paid for it. rF Me. Aho: They will pay., for, it? mayor AusrAz: �jo,. . tl�;ey, pa id, for the tr, s, the Bacardi:.. -com a;, rprive -large, sate pared to,, what we4 ave ',h can get them A�o 09,1na_ 4 _X te, one. �t( �8 Mx-,Ahos ,O eats j,,, �,wfl d' q_v J '11togeth evand T QKQ 'F" wrr dop!rt so Mayor -'S D u think that uarer.; o,yo closiez.up sh bjvip_�, to V wk p V 4� t 7 R Mayor Suarez: Do you think the sub station on Flagler and 22nd is going to be a factor in the area? Ms. Aho3 No, we need a substation on 8th Street. Mayor Suarez: But, I mean, do you think the one on Flagler and 22nd is going to be a factor? I Mould think that it - you know, it's 8 blocks away, I r- Me. Aho: Bight blocks away is not good enough. We need a visible force on ` 8th Street, especially in these areas. We're not getting it, OK? b• Mayor Suarez: By the way, today we opened the ministatioa at Edgewater, did we not, Joe? Just today. - Ms. Ahos Great.` Mayor Suarez: The City now has Edgewater, Allapattah, Overtown, it will have A the Little Havana substation, Liberty City substation. Morningside and the downtown location. We're up to seven police permanent... Ms. Ahos Make it a round number. Mayor Suarez: You mean an even number. Ms. Aho: Right, round it off. Make it eight. UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: Well, my name is... Mayor Suarez: I had thought, frankly, that if we were going to push for x another one, it,would be on 8th Street but -farther out. towards Flagami-.because it was so far from the City, you know. If we were going to push for eighth one because I'd hope that the one at 22nd and Flagler once it- : gets s operating... how close are we, Mr. Manager, to... Mr. "Odios I. was there ,today, as a matter of fact, _it's: off the, ground.,, Mayor Suarez: Oh, yes, it's well off.the ground. Mr._.Odio:. I'd say another ten months..,: r Mayor,Suarez: About the better part? Maybe not much before, the end;.:of the.,. not,, much . after the.,end of the_ year? . Mr. Odios It:'s moving fast, I saw, it off the ground today. Mr. .Frank Carrillo., My. name is: Frank Carrillo, my address is 2190 S.W. 16th f Street. We organized this petition, Mayor and Commissioners... Mayor Suarez: Do I have the petition for the record? Is it in the... r j have a petition back here. ! Mr. Carrillo: Yes, I { Mayor Suarez: OK, you want to introduce it into the record. r Mr. Carrillo: You mean read it? A t " Mayer Suarez: No, jugt.;;put , it into, -the., record Give it to :the, .C,itq-lOzkt r Thank; you, sir. How many signatures do you have? ` Ir, ;Carrialot Therp,!.e over,, # hundred# we:,could ,have .got more. I did it and � - didn't have time to, you know, to.get any more but: I'm.sure;we can get some ' mQre•:. ,An -,far ;as ,the businesses, they're not ,just small •',businessas,_•we s� tepreeentative .ior ".the. old Sheehan Buick which is, now.. �taiabpvr."Huipk� CeDtyq ,x }' Vaecp;: andfi ;Casa ; l4n9a.:,,.t any : of the businesses have, ,bpan there far over 3p M � years. and these smaller businesses, gentlemen with a little .':cafe, Ferae9e x , _ bl4k c'30exdis, for o #s, athebaary r,bestthe, thing tha crima. has just. , V , --47, ,R In - really, Y! ;�; Mayox; Suaxe�t That :area will be ;impacted, a great dssl Aq s gQ� k ` like; he..l+4t 1► Auer -tear, spsculty;cei�xarx._. Ttlet� uHfoFtWa4 ekY.ic; y, t !e, t ? IF ;17th ;pz� then you h��►a a whole d a ' A 4 A. 5. , t f t Y i� •f(N ,,f J wtFd4" M - ySin.z j-- s area's the most affected I would say other than East Little Havana. I mean, from 12th Avenue downtown we know the problems there. From 12th to 11th on S.W. 8th Street will obviously be the area most affected in a positive way by the Latin Quarter specialty center. Mr. Carrillo: That would be great, but, you know, one thing I thought of when I heard about the Latin Quarters is, unless you're going to have head shops that sell scales and glass pipes and torches, that's about the only business that's going to do good on 8th Street right now today. Because the rest of the businesses, you have people here to prove that most of them are about _ ready to shut their doors and move out. OK? And for the ones that have not — already done no, that's how bad the situation is when you have people - men dressed as women at night prostituting the streets, you know, you have prostitutes, you have people when you go to Casa Blanca to buy a cafe or Perersosa, and then buy some pasteles or anything, you know, you got people! out there that, don't you want to buy, you know, some rocks and, you know, it's just terrible situation. Actually, you know, a lot of you have been elected and came from this, you know, due to S.W. 8th Street, these businesses, you know, they made Miami 30 years ago. I have a little letter I'd like to read here and it says, we would like to start by saying that this. Mrs. Kennedy: Can the police have a regular officer there? — OK I'm sure they could and, in fact, they did this after this petition was sent to you, there was like real heavy law enforcement in this area and it helped. Three weeks ago a lot of these people have just disappeared from -the area. The main infection building where all this was coming from, the owner was busted with crack in his business and they've closed that hotel and bar down. Mrs. Kennedy: Do you have any more abandoned buildings? Crack buildings? - Mr. Carrillo: Well, it's not actually abandoned buildings on 8th Street, - they're just businesses -and certain places that these people stand in front _ of, you know, there's a man, Mr. Perersosa, and these owners of Casa Blanca, this; gentleman right here with his cafe shop, gentleman from Rainbow Buick that every hour of the day they can look out and there's people selling crack -' in front of thei"r'businesses, you know, and these people...' Mayor Suarez: Let me ask about how we've -been doing any kind of reverse sting .�— operation. I know we've done some in East Little Havana.-- Have we done any in _ that area? I guess you can't very well do them at, you know, at the worst... I mean, at the latest hours of the evening because that's not when it would be ; happening. It would be happening, you're talking about the hours like just regular evening hours - 8, 9, 10, 11, 12. >` Mr. Carrillo: No, no, we're talking daytime hours. Mayor Suarez: And day. Mr. Carrillo: Daytime hours from 9-to S. INAUDIBLE COMMENTS NOT ENTERED INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD. i Mayor Suarez: All day. Have we done any..., Lt. Joseph Longueirs: Mayor, since January lot, our street narcotics unit has been in that area. They've made about 58 arrests up and down 8th Street there. Mayor,Suirez: Sut'not a reverse sting operation?: Mr, Dawkins s ` Lt, Longue Ira: ,Nw, I don't:... - —. Hr. Dawkin$a: .;, no house, no houses. Mayor Suarez: There fa,no houses-:you'can- do:it--from? r. { :Lt. `LongiAtIra: I'..m: note sura' the type of arrests they.'re maklag they're for sales because.:. '_77 $c. 77, ",- Mr. bawkinat Yebi they just to down and, you know, individuals.. Lt. Longueira: .., in some areas they even went back later after working with One Of the motel owners, i believe it's of the Sable Palma Mayor Suarez: Mr. City Attorney, can You - talking about motels... Lt. Longueira: Yes. Mayor Suarez: ... can you have a little bit of an enforcement effort on motels that may be in violation of licensing and whatever and see if we can s maybe track down on the worst ones? Have you given us all the information on the worst? motels, the worst offenders? Mr. Carrillo: Mayor, you know, yes, on the first petition, the areas were noted on that... Mayor Suarez: No, I'm talking about a specific.... Mr. Carrillo: Yes, specific... Mayor `Suarez: We have a City, like anything else, it's a bureaucracy - motels — is what I'm asking. Mr. Carrillo: Yes, specific. OK, motels, there was two named` on that petition... Mayor Suarez: OK, why don't you give them to us. Mr. Carrillo: ... Rainbow, the corner of 23rd and 9th and Victor's Motel, right next to Casa 'Blanca.,. Mayor Suarez: Does it"state in there what kinds of things that are going on? Lt ome-Lon's .. -'At the -Rainbow Motel, we have a task force`with the State . Attorney': office: ' That' hotel is slated- to be discussed- as a target at the z next meeting. OK, we've done activities in that area but specifically that hotel -is going to be targeted. The 'Sable Palm we've already'tarBeted, they've cleaned up that area, we've got the owner to install fences and do other, things to the motel and that doesn't appear to be a problem any more.,. x -, ? Mayor -:Suarez: OK'aad'�then 'you "can monitor the'other'motels that we've tried to cover both of them.` Mr. Carrillot The owner of that business, his brother himself, was the one that was°selling crack out of his bar, you know, Victor.," So don't know how qou You knows .I guys could 'work with him. That's � really un . ' I ca'n't uaderstand'that. ' Mayor Suarez:' Well, if we can't prove: Mrs. Kennedy: Sometimes we ask the same thing. r Mayor Suarers Yes... !lr.: Carrillo: Yes. Working with the guy, that s.elhing Mayor Suarez: i"'If we cas''t prove the criminal, activit, t. y, but we can" force { Mr.fCarrillo: Weil" g 4 , Yea Yau can, the guy wa Mayor'. •r T� s arr¢sted; Mayor $uarers.: Let #me complete .what I'm saying If we can't preps tide crfminal-'activity at a'<psxt�u�ar r_ port but we can "`convince the nor`,, Improve his.* property► that's :still's nst gain for the.atpp;.. {ram —; Mr. Carrillo: It ie, Yea. ` h c s g 7 Mayor Surrez: , r " '" d y lcnaw, don y t mia mi e �, • • • qA t ou that beo+�i�se� you 4 ;r * *frVjt a rs iti a ► s t 3 r ,}tits u+ *fir 'w f'` i {t-0� g y� r t o 4 '�,.c •RrT ;. 1i a i7 r Y ii�„ kn ,.FL[i a 1 �c { ,- . . ............ t[ t 1 f S� r Mayor Suareet If we that catch him in criminal activity, i guarantee you that we'll say -thank you for improving your motel and now you go into another motel that we have for you. Mr. Carrillo. I'd like to read this and then I'm sure some of these ladies and gentlemen would like to say something. "To our elected officials in our City of Miami Police Department, Chief Perry Anderson. We, the residents and businesses of S.W. Sth Street, Little Havana, also known as the Latin Quarters of our state and nation, ask of you that in a joint effort our street be clean from drug environment that has flooded this one countywide and nationwide attractive area ...." As I just mentioned, :n �e 31 ... which was once regularly visited, not only by the immediate residents but by people from all over, even from out of town. You know, we would brag when they came to town and we would take them to Calls Ocho, places like Centro Vasco for its fine food, to Casa Blanca for the pastelitoa and cafe, King's Green, the helados, frutas naturales, Perezaosa for his dulces and his pan Cubano. The Buick dealer that has been there for over 25 years and it's not time for these people and businesses to move or close their doors like others have due to the present problem. The once bloom Calls Ocho, thanks to, in those days, Mr. Miller Dawkins, J. L. Plummer and the present administration at that time was facelifted - facelifted it and. improved with it with the new streets and brick sidewalks and new plants in the Domino Park have now been allowed to become a slum and ghetto -like area ridden with crime and drugs. Mayor Suarez: Domino Park? Domino Park? Mr. Carrillo: Excuse me? Mayor;Suarez: Domino Park? After everything we put into Domino Park, after we fenced it? Well, you're saying to his.... Mr. Carrillo: No,;i'm saying that in those days, in those.days... y;. Mayor Suarez% Oh, oh. Mr. Carrillo: .. thanks to that present administration that, you know, Calls Ocho was bloomed. OK? And has now been allowed to become a slum and drug ridden area. I mean, even though it was fenced and all those things soere done, it's still, you know, a lot of drug environment in that area and so, you know, here's the question, would Miracle Mile be allowed.to deteriorate!:like this in :ten years? I'm sure they would not permit'that:theie. Wet'know-it's not your fault: < but it sureis a responsibility to produce the needed.'forces for ridding this ambience from Calle Ocho so that we, meaning you and us, will begin to bring the -:spirit and birth back to Calle.Ocho and after this is done,: well then, once again, the people will enjoy it and be proud of it. And, I, would: like. to 'emphasize like just just like the residents of `Allapattah, -, N.E. Miami and the finer _areas of Liberty- City don't want the crime of Overtowri. to,.:, spreadinto their, finer :neighborhoods :but .wish to ,,improve,.. Overtown. We..'feel the :same thing. ,There's a _Lahtighetto which"a ` Plaglerp. vY: rr and i.7th' and' ;it's: been` know as -E1 Viet Nam since .1964's, -'OK- °and just like we e don't want that crime ` to spread :into the finer neighborhoods of `southwest, `:: y4u . rya y_ know, -we do want to: improved -:that sect ion_there :but .we don't. want' to ,allow f that, crime to come into, our neighborhoods:'. So we ask that this riot, be let t4 ' cool, .<off :,an4,.that we :all recall :;and remember you around elsctiort tithe so we sup port now and in.the..future, you know. Mayor Suarez: Lst.me.as$ a>couple of questions'of Lieutenant, i� `K �♦�k Mr �Carrilcca :.,Yes Mayorr= Suarokr� Orr,-prostitutton, first of all,` have we :;had Boma s pare - QapF�x, u there?' Soma sting Qporatioris? y =s� n v I.t. I,- l Ong ,ft4r _ Mayon, x� dor►'t Crave that I. have tip as r, t1 4g'1� ' We hate PRople works}g prostitutlon all the Tn t�•percifia+�lq`;that eras, :I!d have .to 'check. J Mayor Suarez: Because we, at one point, you know, we made a great effort on Biscayne Boulevard which worked very well and we pushed all the prostitutes to _ S.U. 8th Street. So then, we created a bit of a problem for ourselves on the other side of the City. The other question I have is from 12th to 17th _ Avehue, today we've given a great boost to a major project. Now, let me ask you this question. From 17 to 22nd or from 22nd to 27th, which of those two, if you had to I know this will put you in bad with some of the merchants who... _ Mr. Carrillo: Yes. _ Mayor Suarez: ... but if you had to say which of those two is in greater need of some kind of a City development effort or a City presence of some sort. Mr. Carrillo: Right now, there are three sections that are in really bad need'... Mayor Suarez: OK. Mr. Carrillo: ... which are the 15th and 8th, 18th and 8th, and 23rd... Mayor Suarez: OK, wait, 15th and Sth is obviously Latin Quarters, so what are the other two? Mr. Carrillo: -... and 23rd and 8th. I couldn't... Mayor Suarez: What is the second one you gave me? Mr. Dawkins: Twenty-third, twenty-third. `t Mr. Carrillo: OK, second was 18th and 8th... —' Mayor Suarez: OK. _ Mr.-- Carrillo: third is 23rd and 8th and I couldn't -tell you which one needs -it -more. They're -ail in real'bad... -: Mayor Suarez: OK, no, no, 'wait, I'm leaving out with the first of those.:• , ,Mr. Planning Director, sir, what great ideas other than fixing up our zoning -code do you have - that's the 9500 ordinance - do you have _ for, and other than Latin• Quarter sets oU regulations that cover some of this area that you describe? Can you propose for the S.W. 8th Street strip, from 17th to 22nd,;.- around 18th is you're•saying is the worst and from 22nd..-. tY SKF Mr. Carrillo: Twenty-third, 23rd is like our main concern. too,,: you know.. w Mayor Suarez. I'm getting to that one. I'm asking a- double, question here, Is there, anything - does the City have any planning, anything that we might be :^ able to promote in there, anything that we., Mr. Sergio Rodriguez:: As you know, the Latin Quarter... Mayor Suarez: Facade improvement, I don't know, I mean..: f r Mr. Rodriguez:,::The.Latin Quarter area limits,, ends; on 17tb Ayenue,,and+,we, have_ been trying to, ; concentrate on that area , specifically so_• that we .cawAW results that will be visible and will expand into other areas. Mayor Suarez:-Yes,;ve understand that, we tbought:that the... Mr,_~Rodriguers :The only..thing:that:I could think oi.R,. . 33 r -Mayor, Suaraz, ;., most c itical area a4L;s tb to'_1]th Havana eihas .critical_, problems,_. you ; cap t, even begig tpY,xasq}ve those but thought ,that the of the stable areas,. the most'';critcals i�th _ East 1,ittle Havaoli :<is nat Van .stable so ve re just hopi.ng': to op 1t alive Lt until there.. Arid it's: improving slowly but - from '1960, which-pro4�bl�r t►s�q tttssa . S �o-�2 #,'` erore►b,oint'. Ilan sorry.,. �r =Hf• A rlguers 4 i1a you know, we have been: also working uponoarke►t t,o ' coma to, that area because we feel that 1t woul T bav+ aq m? t - on the economics of that area. in addition to that, other than that 1 tould think of, is a..► Mayor Suarez: There's another company, talk about Xtra, there's another company that wants to have a 12-acre presence. I met with them recently, you might know of them, their name is Costco, C-o-a-t-c-o, they're large volume and they need about 12 acres and they're very interested in the possibility of ° central Miami because they've got a location over by the former Midway Mall and that would be a major, major, major... r Mr. Rodriguez: If you can direct it to our office, we will try to help them in finding a place. When you work... Mayor Suarez: They're looking at other areas in the City, but that was one of them too. <ar Mr. Rodriguez: When you were making your decisions on the comprehensive plan, there were some decisions made by you that increased the density in some areas along 8th. Street that would allow more redevelopment of the area. Other than that, I would suggest maybe that we go with stricter code enforcement in certain areas that will help us and maybe try to make sure thatthoseareas are falling a little bit behind. Mayor Suarez: Including the possibility of closing a few too that... Mr. _ Manager, we've done a very good job of doing code enforcement in the _ northeast.. What is the next area that we're going to attack? Mr. Odio: Well, what happened is, in talking to the task force that you created in Calle Ocho, I asked them to have a meeting with the merchants and _ the people in the area before we did the same thing we did in the northeast, which has come... Mayor Suarez: To make sure they support it. Mr. Odio: I think the last number I saw was 2700 violations, citations and fines.and,if we.moved. in there, that's what would happen and we had a meeting - called for about a week and a half ago. unfortunately, the people did not show . up ;eyen though the staff was there. I think it is important than we do ;r this here before we march in and do the same thing we did over there. What I >;Y wanted -to:do in there..... - Mr. Car rillo. Mayor, before I go, there's... Mayor Suarez: Commissioner Dawkins wanted to address that. Mr. Dawkins, -.;I think -we aren't hearing what's being said. What's being''said is, .1 don't care what you put in there, it's unsafe. What they're ` saying, :_I,, think, :is,`when. we run the prostitutes from northeast Biscayne Boulevard and " when we run the crack sales from Liberty City, they came to S.W. 8th.S,treet:,' Now, and don't and it's, all the, way. to,37th Avenue and S.W. Sth Street:' It's not just... I mean, it goes - we got prostitutes on 37th and' Sth,'', i k think what: we. need to address, Mr. Mayor, and I don't know how to do 'it` because we don't have the manpower, and somebody needs to tell — just a_ minute, .Mr. Manager need to tell us how to put people off: the streets -wi'th the crack..and the prostitutes off the street, But where you try.to.do ii they,. „4 tell me, we, can't .do it because we can't arrest people till they commit •a crime and the biggest proulem is we've got_to. remove the people., r rf Mr.,_Carrillo:, . Mr, :,Dawkins,_, at the, -end of this, -if it-, gets to. just that, ask =that- this be. taken, >.because it's probably - : it'snot'. enough ,with -what w 5 can,.:doto lour xtace government or. local judiciary; `'demand;iag::thai,41. sse : i people, :xhe add.icta > and ..the be - sent to: treatment and the. dealers 'to Pr ton, Now,r ;the�ra are fundw',for .:this, I:'m;.eure, And.:instead �i tk�esp`; lrou'lcq�►�'rr�t` o£f1c+e�re,` ;I : know this gent flartinesx..back here .sirrests-r them tomoz�coveoraing this guy .-is back out an a °pretrial 53.9" A , Mr, Dawkins: Tonight. Tonight . <atr ;=T tMr r' fir.A�r�loi 01C,+OK, so V.J, tr, Dawkins: Tonight. h -'t 1 tit fk 2-2 - t Via' Mr. Carrillo: instead of letting these people go and back on to the streets, send them to treatment, OKt And send the dealers to prison, you know, that's the solution, as far as getting rid of them from the area. What was doge on ' 18th and 8th, there was a Fayva Shoe Store that opened and they placed a policeman there all the time. Now, these people moved away from that area. ,; If there would be a policeman at each of these areas, I'm sure they would move — Somewhere else, you know. But we definitely need to do something about this and I'll end by saying that we thank Officers Roberto Solar and Orlando Garcia _ for such a fine job that they have done towards this cause in this area. They're really fine officers. Mayor Suarez: I also know that you had commended another officer who was switched from that area and I sent the memo pursuant to your request about that and, apparently, an officer that does very well sometimes has to be, in this case, I think he was sent to the motorcycle unit, you know, he was made into a motorman and you were so happy with him you wanted him to stay there N and I asked why that was, why he moved, and they said that he was doing so well that he wanted to be a motorman and he was given the promotion, if you want to look at it that way. Mr. Carrillo: Well, last I heard, they're back in the same patrol C and they're doing a great job and we thank you. Mayor Suarez: And what I've told the Manager about that is that I hope we can get to the point that by financial incentives, the people who are doing well, if we can, you know, increase their rank, we can keep themin the neighborhoods as opposed to making more motormen - he's laughing, he's smiling at me.. Mr. Carrillo: That's great, great. Mr. Odio: I mean, I think what... Mayor Suarez: You like those financial incentives, don't you Lieutenant? Mr: -Carrillo: OK, thank you. Mayor Suarez: Doctor, Miriam Alonso. Ms-Miriam,Alonso: Yes,:I was going to say that knowing quite wel: the: area; l:_ we've been saying through years that the problem is more policemin the:. area. Mr. Odio: You need to place your name and address in the record, please:'— Ms. Alonso: My name is Miriam Alonso, 1441 S.W. 12th Street. Knowing `quite ' _ well the area, we have been reporting to the Police Department through the years that the area of 8th Street and 18th Avenue has been a very serious ? place for drug dealers. But the problem... Mayor Suarez: Let me, let me mention that to the: Lieutenant and to the Manager,-if,we could,, maybe, really concentrate on Sth Street and 18th Avenue,,, I know that that's... Ms. Alonso: Yes, but,also the problem has spread to the areas they mentioned, 23rd Avenue, but also 24th Avenue has become a very serious area of drug dealers 24th as well, 8th Street and 24th and, of course,:they go one block to the "back and cover the ,area and it has become a very serious area-=for.the' crack dealers', all kind' of drugs... they are -selling and:, dealing: in:; -the;; streets day and, night and it- is a very serious problem'. It. use6:to be, a:�very. "sky safe -area but now -it has become ''a very difficult area, for--the-,neighbors` something ;has' to be done, and I, -- think it! a'. not : the, question of code ,, # enforcement. Knowing the area quite well, you can see that in the --.back of 8th� ;. Street whit, you have is mostly single homes all from 23rd' -tp 24th,'�i mainly one family homes in that area. By the way, all by 'families who live .and own; the property. -Then-, when you 'move -.one way up to 24th Avenue; ,you find what '7s you have three buildings in that block, all of them well "kept. rut you have rk — to koep and eye .and have.more poliew into ,..the area under, cover. and the; jph . r , could be done but it has to be done.now. We cannot afford to°be,wwaitia longer ' beca, ''the situation is going to deteriorate to a point that t .,. be,beyond what you can resolve. �g .:(Applause) t tlr( 93 0 — q 'l Eta% +' 4, Ms, Alonso: I appreciate if you really take a serious consideration to the area because as we can see, the pattern, they are moving up and taking the entire area of Sth Street. if sometSing is not done now, tomorrow might be too late. Thank you. i Mayor Suarez: Thank you, Doctor. + Mr. Odio: Mr. Mayor, I think we did with the Kdgewater code enforcement, we did a sweep where with police and I'm going to talk to the Chief tomorrow and ate if we can start that immediately. Mrs. Kennedy: Because it worked wonders over there. Mr. Odio: And it did work. It shifts the problem from one area to another one but we'll hit it. Mayor Suarez: Well, the literature says that if you shift the problem enough, they eventually just... Mr. Odios It will shift away. Mrs. Kennedy: Yes, they move out. Mayor Suarez: Yes, they shift out because you make crime a little bit more difficult and they realize it. It hurts them and then we'll go over here. Mr._ Willy.Chavez, Jr.: OK,.good afternoon, Commissioners and Mayor Suarez, also as you know, I was a lobbyist for the Allapattah Chamber of Commerce and I. knov in. that I area, I just. came to let you know that - and as you all know _ but let everybody else know that there you have been working together with people in the area with. merchants in the area and it has improved quite ,a lot. Of course, sometimes it does come back but it has improved quite a lot and different tunes. As, a resident of , this area, , the Latin Quarter and the .S.W. N .,Bth Street area, I'm".not too far off there, in the past few months we have ;t also seen a bit of increase in crime also in home and residence, even in daytime,.OK? And whet they're,:proposing, I think what should be done is what — you're now trying to suggest and Mr. Odio is suggesting, that the shifting - back and;, forth, there are different areas .and in communicating ' . with ,people hat have the business .in the, area, ,they will be able to inform ,the"Police x» Depart:cent where the trouble spots are at that moment and I think it could be worked. because.: if we .do ,improve. right now. and keep.. the< crime, away from Sth - S.treet_, once we -get that project with the. Latin Quarter,,; I think itwill _be a great. success. But _,=Jf we don't improve" it, 'I know that when there are no other businessesaround and 'there are crack dealers and all kinds of .bad r: influences, no matter how beautiful you make that project, nobody will go and visitit: CAPP cruse). ;;. Mayor,.Suarers. Could you, put your, name in the: record? Your name Bind address, _ please. s> 4 Mr. Chavez: ,Willy Chavez, Jr., 2111 S.W. 16th Terrace. ' Mr. Francisco Cortina: OK, my, name is Francisco Cortina and I live in 2152` S.W. 10th Street in the heart of Little Havana. I see that neighborhood- run down, .every day.; morg. and more. I'm, going ,.to be specific about this place in .23rd 'Avenue and 8th Street. Is a. bar there and is a motel. I guess -the motes], end bar got a .;license why didn't ;they_ .take ,the;: llacanse awayr,$rom�, th x.y Because .the neen the license t opexate ,a' bar and a sa tel, rig#? Y, P o n. u Mayor Sue4res: Is that one_ of the motels .that wes rare ..talking .about?: Mrs.pnnady: iahat'sname of the; Mr. C tinA Yes.. x ee he of a there `man' .p t. P i y r 'many time.. V �' a * K¢ QdY s �Whot �a=,ihe t�am�+? �-T� � s of - xt .� 'w" T uud.Nr e»sr 6./� � �,. f{i� �'h♦y ;.R p T ;_.. `" � x. � i'�`;"+} 5 #,,� ���C '+��'r�'^P}�v:}E�� #�i',i.. 4y�'_ Mr. Cortina: is Victor Cafe, the name of the bar. We '11 check, we'll get state beverage and we'll do an action OK, we're going to try to do something about that motel. got people here that can... yo What violations have u noticed in connection with the barf noticed any violations in connection with the bar? Ud. he Lt. Longueira: in that area. Mayor Suarez: Mr. Cortina: Mayor Suarez: sir? Have you notado algunal Mr. Cortina: Sure. Mayor Suarez: No, no, Digs la pregunta. Si he notado algunas violaciones en - to que tiene que ver con el bar que esta ahi, el lounge. Mr. Cortina: It is a violation toe$�llin Icsee rack. people selling crack there inside the bar and the bad enough B Mayor Suarez: OK, so they're selling drugs inside the bar is one of the... _ Ms. Alonso: Maybe the hours that they are operating and selling. Mayor Suarez: Whaare the restrictions on the hours of operation? t Unidentified Speaker: 24 hours: t INAUDIBLE COMMENTS NOT ENTERED INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD. Mayor Suarez: Wait; wait, wait,'.please, please, please. What'are,the hours? , it depends on the license they have so Lt. Longueirac Mayor, I'.m not sure we'd have to look at the., license..,:. Mayor Suarez: But the most it could possibly be? Lt. `Longueira:. Well,, ,to ,like 4 00.in the morning,. I think, something like that, yes. But::;it..depends ;on the license. k#� Mayor�Suarez. Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, why would we.allaw bars; to stay open till 4:00 in the morning? Can't we have a more restrictive, law in the City of Miami? } ® Lt. Longueira: I (just enforce it. 4 Mayor,:Suarezi7 directing the question at you .necessarily, Mr. Manager,„ Mr. City Attorney, somebody? rti Mr.. -Jorge Fernandez: Just. pulled the code, hold on. Mr. Joe.Genuardi:. I believe the bar is till 3:00 a.m. If you have a supper; club, it'a till 5:00 a.m. Mayor Suarez: If you have a what? Mr . Genua,A; aurdi: �ppe r olub, i- It'stili fivQ R , Mayor ;Suarez.: _ Till ;>3s00 imple a.m3 , a 's,bar, usT� �ttay open, ti7 3��J0.1Rk,r r o;more ;restriotivt than etate Lord! And,, that"sr state , dan we g j Ciz: r ofa Mr..�arn�andez: That's City: _ Y ads. 4 Gx t y Mr.�Genuldi: +iCiYCodeRB Mr,;Odio;, Well, you can change that, y dffiL' k 4f'L'a f h d , w if tod$ ' +� the,day', but you 1�i0ht We�1t h51R , 8 Mayor Suarez: `-Boy; .I dae t kn4 iAR #Q1:e �aGk to;°itS?A ter i,f:® the,pora�l ; r anpthig`.�ae? � ? 1 1 Mra: Kennedy: Absolutely, me tool Mr. Genuardi: No, that's all I want to say, you know, that, I meats, 106 vefy - evident, you know. Mayor Suarez: OK, 1411 entertain a motion to have the Manager recommend to As that is a more restrictive ordinance on the lateness of a bar standing by itself, I'm not talking about a lounge inside a hotel or something which may have all kinds of night time operation, but bars standing by themselves that you Mould recommend, Mr. Manager, to us into a new ordinance. 3 Mrs. Kennedy: Move Mayor Suarez: Moved. Want to second it? Mr. De Yurret I'll second. Mayor Suarez: Call the roll on that. Mr. Carrillo: Thank you. The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Kennedy, who moved Its adoption: MOTION NO. 89-465 A MOTION INSTRUCTING THE CITY MANAGER TO RECOMMEND ON THE POSSIBILITY OF RESTRICTING THE HOURS OF OPERATION FOR BARS IN THE CITY OF MIAMI' FURTHER, DIRECTING THE CITY ATTORNEY TO DRAFT A MORE RESTRICTIVE ORDINANCE REGULATING SAID HOURS OF OPERATION FOR CONSIDERATION {' r AND!APPROVAL BY THE CITY COMMISSION. Upon being seconded by Commissioner De Yurre, the motion was passed and: F, adopted by the following' vote: x z a.x AYESt- Commissioner' -Rosario Kennedy" Commissioner Miller Dawkins M„w Vice',Mayor::Victor-De' Yurre;— Mayor Xavier L. Suarez 4 NOES: None.' ABSENT: ""'Commissioner J.' L.''Plummer, Jr. — Mayor Suarez: And, obviously, we have to support that with all the correct. y`- findings to not run afoul of the constitution or•something. Yes, sir Mr." Raymond Bolduke4: 'Mr. -Mayor, Raymond Bolduke, `from the' Latin Quarter. Cultural'=Center. I'm` -here with good news and I wanted' to thank the Commission ';- and the Mayor. We were given some grant privileges about 8 months ago tc.' purchase the Tower Theater on 15th..- s Mayor Suarez: Oh; 'tell me something good about the Tower Theater, please: Mr. Bolduker Well, -'-we submitted the contract this week. We!ve raised ahaost; ^K N $500,000, a hundred and fifty of it from the City. We had:: our fiaCat{w' s 4 sue:cessful- musical <event 'which was thb Gypsy `'Kings; 'we abld' `out Knight Center. We don't propose t4` do things:, that big because the °theater s�mly to' have 150 "-seats-o :abut=we'res: still 'working,. we've been working fex � ,+ one yee<r; we've gotten the. cooperatYon at the state`' level, the, City;,level, `theg tf�a'r aX v Count level and'we're going after` rivete fundraisin nqw. The two million dollars . project; we'rep a quarter of� the�g.way there, i went ' 69� thank the` Commission, and solicit your continued support because it's at �cgo cortex of 15th.. , L f Mayor Suarez: Too' t4at's... _ l�r,Ql,gke: and . 8th an fit' e . an .eyesa�re sad we haver to a►o�►� o'Ft1. k - peer tuturet: 9�ace :.was Bet the : contract, we � l 2��ve accg�ss to $r�i<tle� �#���� �iBit sow; we. don!.t own:.the ,pxQpsrty:.. t Ft .r T# - a —f F Mrs. Kennedy: Absolutely, tee toot f Mir. Genuardi: Not that's all I want to say, you know, that, I mesh, it'* very evident, you know. Mayor Suarez: OK, I'll entertain a motion to have the Manager recommend to us what is a more restrictive ordinance on the lateness of a bar standing by_. Itself, I'm not talking about a lounge inside a hotel or something which may hive all kinds of night time operation, but bars standing by themselves that you would recommend, Mr. Manager, to us into a new ordinance. Mrs. Kennedy: Move it. Mayor Suarez: Moved. Want to second it? Mr. De Yurres I'll second. - Mayor Suarezt Call the roll on that. Mr. Carrillo: Thank you. The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Kennedy, who moved Its adoption: MOTION NO. 89-465 A MOTION INSTRUCTING THE CITY MANAGER TO RECOMMEND ON THE POSSIBILITY OF RESTRICTING THE HOURS OF OPERATION - FOR BARS IN THE CITY OF MIAMI' FURTHER, DIRECTING THE CITY ATTORNEY TO DRAFT A MORE RESTRICTIVE ORDINANCE REGULATING SAID HOURS OF OPERATION FOR CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL BY THE CITY COMMISSION. Upon being seconded by Commissioner De Yurre, the motion was passed and adopted -'by the following.votez`_' AYESt- Commissioner -•Rosario Kennedy ' _ Commissioner Miller Dawkins ` Vice_Mayor`Victor`De Yurre - Mayor Xavier L. Suarez NOES: None. , ABSENT:' Commissioner J. L.'Plummer, Jr.: Mayor Suarez: And, obviously, we have to support that with all the correct findings,to not run afoul of the, constitution or something. —Yes, Yes,' sir: • Mr.Raymond Boldukez Mr. Mayor, 'Raymond 'Bolduke,' from. the Latin- Quarter Cultural Center. I='m here with good news andI wanted to thank the Commission.: t± and the Mayor. We were given some grant privileges about 8 months ago to purchase the Tower Theater on 15th... - Mayor Suarez: Oh' 'tell me something q , g good about the Tower Theater, please.. Hr -Boldukei Well, we submitted the contract this week,, We've raised almost $500, 000, a hundred and fifty of it from the City. We had our f irst :: ' T successful ' musical `event '?s+tiich` 'was the G ' s Kin s ` "aa :iold _:out Jam¢s`° L, yP y ' B r; Knight Center. We don't propose to do things that bigbecause the theater Jp only 'going to' have 150' seats; -:-but •we're. still working, we've been wcrking:fo�r Y y`a, 17 , ope year, we've gotten the cooperation at the state level, the City:lev:el, County': level and we're going after private fundraising sow: Tho pQecta a x'n ,. iwo mullion -dollars.. we'ra a : quarter of the way ;: there. h: r►aAt to 1" r thank :the .Commission and solicit. -your 'Continued support, because it'.a corner of iSth... - z 4 t Mayor Supregi Mr. Aplduke; .:. and 8th and it'e pn eyesore and we, have to mpve Qn ib ip t#e'imt.' x Pi t> ino$r futu'e. APC$wgatthe Contract, w�11havo. ts o great+y�#dP, Right ,nqw� we dowlt .oNn .thQ_preperty. s { marts - Mayor Suarez: You know, that theater reminds me a lot of the one in Liberty City, the Carver, t just checked with Commissioner Dawkins, i forgot the name of it, it's the same kind of situation. It's just a little corner eyesore that's, you know, an impediment to any positive development or stabilityfor the community. That's beautiful, that's beautiful. Count on our complete support for that, absolutely, continuous support. OK, we're going to wrap this up... Mayor Suarez: Can I say something? Dr. Alonso, maybe the people from lith Avenue to 27th ought to be organized into another task force if you're willing to do that, we could... Mr. Alonso: Sure, but if you allow to me - I want to mention something that is extremely important for our community, Mayor and Commissioner. The sewer Is giving to the community a very serious problem between the 12th Avenue to the 22nd Avenue. Every day is having problem, especially the 6th, 7th and 5th Street. We were trying to speak today with Sergio and we were not able to do that. We are speaking with the county because the county say that this is City, the City say that this is county. Mayor Suarez: The sewer... Mr. Alonso: And we are having a serious problem and really we like to see if we can resolve. Mayor Suarez: OK, let's get that squared away. Mr. Alonso: Yes. Mayor Suarez: Jim Kay or Dr. Prieto. Mr. Jim Kay: Ifit is the sanitary sewer, it belongs to Metropolitan Dade County and we'll be glad to make the contact with the proper people. Mr. Alonso: Yes, they belong to the county but the county say that this is - problem `of the City of Miami. And the people that are suffering are the resident of the area between the county and the City, about... Mayor Suarez: Why does the county say that's a City problem? Mr. Alonso: I don't know but maybe we can find about that, but they are playing with one to the another because it's in the City. a Mayor Suarez: Yes, we had that same problem this morning with the Rainbow Village:.. Mr. Aionso: About five or six years ago, Mayor, we were having the same problem and the Manager, Mr. Odio, prepared a committee group and we were worked together with the county, the residents of- the area and the City of Miami. Maybe we can do another effort about that again. Mayor Suarez: OK, thank you, we're going to... ry; Mr. Boldukes Thank you. Mrs. Kennedy: Thank you. s Mayor Suarez: You're going to check that out and get back to 4 us?a i Mr. Kays `We'll check that out; yes, sir: i- t rr 5 234 - �r.wror rrr�r+rrrr:rrr. .r�rr..rrr---- w....rrr...rrr.rw.r, —.. i ..r.�r�.�.--rw.w�:+.r . ... . .... ` 61. GRANT REQUEST FROM EL CHbTjs RESTAURANT TO EXTEND HOURS OF OPERATION _ cogcEftt ma "LA FIESTA DE SAN ISIDRO". _-. - rr �iarirYrlf �.rrr`.��iir+w�iYYr '. r----rrrrrrw� tl.i..Lr.rr:�wrr-r--W i.r- -rrrrYrrrrrarrr�rrw.r rr.r Mr. De Yurre: Mr. Mayor, they're going to be holding at the restaurant and 13th and 14th and their adjacent parking lot, La Fiesta de San Isidro, on May festivities till they need to extend the hours that are allowed to carry on they're going to have is 2:00 o'clock in the morning. The only activity I think there's a noise ordinance or something that guitar playing and prohibits going beyond, Mr. Dawkins: Eleven o'clock. Lt. Joseph Longueira: Eleven. Mr. De Yurre: I think it's eleven. Mayor Suarez: No, on weekdays. Mr. De Yurre: Well, this is a weekend situation, right? UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: Yes. Mayor Suarez: What's ,the weekend? Mrs. Kennedy: It's eleven o'clock. Mr. De Yurre:Friday and Saturday. Mayor Suarez: Eleven o'clock on weekdays, it's not a weekend. f Mr. De Yurre: Yes, OK, whatever the weekend... Mayor Suarez: Nobody knows what the weekend ordinance is? Lt. Longueira:' I always thought it was eleven straight across. ,= Mr. Jorge Fernandez: We're looking at the noise ordinance a minute. M1 Mayor Suarez: Thank you. I know it's eleven o'clock weekdays, can't be _ a weekends. A„ UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: - At any rate, he 'went to the police this morning, he's been to zoning, they sent him all over the place and, he hasn't. ,gotten a xf straight answer from anybody. t - j- Mayor Suarez: Thisgoingto be outside, commissioner? - UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: It's going to be outside in the parking lot if I can may help you. Mrs. _Kennedy: I second the motion. _ tiht iZ. U Mr. De Yurre: OK.f Mayor Suarez: What's the location again?'} M=: De Yurre: The location, what's , the address? ' lc - UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKERS 1b20`SW; 8th, right in the`middle of`everytl�ing., 'on -`Mayor Suarez: We're not going to have the neighbors our baaak are Mr. Ae Yurre: ' No, they're going to invite them, a Mayor Suarezi Just guitar, 'no amplifiers at all? f Y nn,s ", , UNIA ITtFIEA.SPEA"R:: Dancing, Just guitars and... 7t 1 I FA tF}Af A- N jaw d , i e• P �ZYt „?'� � _ �Itih3'C Mayor Suarett 6X. UNIDENTIFIED SP$AKER: Chatiz music, you know, from Spain. Vete y dale unt. tarjeto a cada uno. Mayor Suarezt But you said it was guitar, not big amplifiers or anything like that. UNIDENTIFIED §PBAXERt Well, there should be some sort of amplifier and I'm sure, but it's all piped in music, not real live stuff. Mr. De Yurre: OK, ready to vote. Mayor Suarez: Call the roll on the item, I guess. UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: It's not live. The following motion was introduced by Commissioner De Yurre, who moved its adoption:. MOTION NO. 89-466 A MOTION GRANTING REQUEST RECEIVED FROM 'REPRESENTATIVES OF EL CHOTIS RESTAURANT FOR EXTENSION OF HOURS OF OPERATION,FROM 11:00 P.M. UNTIL 2:00 A.M. — IN CONNECTION WITH "LA FIESTA DE SAN ISIDRO- (A SPANISH FAIR EVENT) TO BE HELD IN THE PARKING LOT ADJACENT TO SAID RESTAURANT AT 1620 S.W. 8 STREET ON MAY 12 AND 13, 1989; SUBJECT. TO SAID INTERESTED PARTIES TAKING RESPONSIBILITY FOR CLEANING UP THE AREA AT THE CONCLUSION OF SAID EVENT. Upon being seconded by Commissioner Kennedy, the motion was passed and adopted by,the following vote: AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr._�. Commissioner, Rosario Kennedy `f Commissioner Miller Dawkins Vice Mayor Victor De Yurre._- Mayor Xavier L. Suarez t� NOES: ABSENT:_ None. _ 62. AUTHORIZE -ISSUANCE .OF..REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS.REGARDING RENOVATION OF -,THE, POLICE DEPARTMENT SHOOTING RANGE. FA; Mr. Dawkins:. I move we adjourn. Hold it... Mr. Odio: Mr. Mayor, could I have - it's a quick resolution on - I need to do: the firing range at the Police Department, the shooting range...'`x; Mr. Dawkins- Move it,,move it. J at '43fyj .t...Joseph. Longueira.: Back in September you .authorized to approve it. We tY` peed authoriget ion .to; go out,. to ..bid... Mayor Suarers Moved and seconded to go out to bid. Call'the roll v° is 4 r sir t _ r The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Dawkins, who moved its adoption: MOTION NO. 89-467 A MOTION AUTHORIZING THE REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS RENOVATION OF THE POLICE PROJECT. CITY MANAGER TO ISSUE A IN CONNECTION WITH THE DEPARTMENT SHOOTING RANGE Upon being seconded by Commissioner De Yurre, the motion was passed and adopted by the following votes Aygg= Commissioner Rosario Kennedy Commissioner Miller Dawkins — Vice Mayor Victor De Yurre Mayor Xavier L. Suarez — NOES: None. ABSENTS Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr. ----- -- --- 1:30 P.M. — 63. RESCHEDULE SECOND MEETING IN MAY TO MAY 25TH AT -------------------------------------------------- The meeting of May 25th is now scheduled. You're suggesting we y Mayor Suarez: schedule it for 1s307 I need a motion to that effect. Mr. Dawkins: So move._ The meeting of 5125 is all planning and zoning. I, doesn't Y _ — Mayor Suarez: have any other items? Mr. Odio: No, except the... ,— INAUDIBLE COMMENTS NOT ENTERED INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD. do it at 1:307 OK, the next meeting beginning at 1:30. Mayor Suarez: You can have a second, Madam City C1erk7 We have a motion, do we _ ,1a Mr. De Yurre: OK, second. 1 Mayor Suarez: Call the roll. =? The following motion was introduced by commissioner Dawkins, who moved ,r} its adoption: MOTION NO. 89-488; A MOTION RESCHEDULING THE SECOND REGULAR CITY COMMISSION MEETING OF MAY 1989 TO TAKE PLACE ON MAYy, 25, 1989, AT 1:30 P.M. �" A as onded by Commissioner De. Turre, the motion was passed-�anr g cope ythe following vOte3 }u AYES: Commissioner.Miller Dawkins -' Vice Mayor Victor De Yurre�• Mayor Xavier L. Suarez - ; - c n . NQES: None. Commissioner J. L. Piummeri Jr, )ti y ,l�BSENTs Commissioner #tosario Kennedy• ut; Y+j iS _U T , x1F � �s O TI RE BEING NO rURTNBR BUSINESS TO C'OiME BBPORE THE CITY COMISSION. THE tJEETING WAS ADJOURNED AT Be 24 P.M. Xavier L. Suarez MATOR ATTEST: Natty Hirai co CITY CLERK Walter J. Eoasan ASSISTANT CITT CLERK _ * ! NCORP 0RATED 18 96 MR y 5 �p 7 Jt� A,4-- f r � CITY OF MIAMI DOCUMENT INDEX W E"m DATE: AUTHORIZE LEASE AGREEMENT WITH BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF THE.STATE OF FLORIDA INTERNAL IMPROVEMENT TRUST FUND. FOR USE OF EAST.1/2 OF LOT 5 AND LOT 7 OF TWIN RIVER ISLAND (MIAMI BRIDGE) . y 11, 1989 PAW 1 OF pEiAEVAL OOOE M 89-42-0 AUTHORIZE MANAGER TO ISSUE A REVOCABLE PERMIT TO MIAMI BRIDGE,INC. FOR USE OF THE MIAMI-RIVER RAPIDS PARK PROPERTY AS A RESIDENTIAL FACILITY FOR RUNAWAYS AND A CRISIS .INTERVENTION CENTER FOR 89--421 YOUTHS. EXECUTE LEASE AGREEMENT WITH DADE COUNTY AT A NOMTNAL FEE FOR CITY -OWNED LAND_,IN LITTLE HAVANA AND OVERTOWN FOR 89-422 NEIGHBORHOOD"HEALTH CLINICS. SUPPORT NEED FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR STATEWIDE -TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS URO$'LEGISLATURE AND FLORIDA.DEPARTMENT TRANSPORTATION. TO RESTORE FUNDING /VVT T. REFURBISHING. EIGHT RESCUE Af1DULls�tivuq FOR, FIRE' DEPARTMENT. 89-425 ACCEPT;V.ID: MI'RI`.CONSTRUCT.ION FOA DAWN ,OWN'RIGHWAy IMPROVEMENT i 89-4�16jf fif % ' PHASE II',.(ETD' n fir ,� i$1D -$$�$ i;� LQ ATING. MONIES ,IN, � zxX ; , a SVPP..ORT'. OF FUND,- A $E C6NCMRT. FOR; G r�, ,r P LITICO` f MOANP, A /t gyp:. QOM�'LATED WORK CONTAAG;ING INC FQR FIRE ` STATION x A A AR ■w■M M DIFIC{AT 19 y CEPT COMPLETED STORK: D,E, GIDI & f �q ec ASSOCIATES CORP, FOR LUMMUS PARK 89-429 4 PLAZA j SUNSHINE STATE GAMES/DADS COUNTY EVENT REGIONAL GA14ES CYCLECONDUCLUBCTED INCBY 89-430 COCONUT GROVE AUTHORIZE STREET CLOSURES. APPROVE REQUEST FROM AIRPORT SEVEN 5040 LIMITED PARTNERSHIP —RESCHEDULE DATE OF FIRST PAYMENT IN REPAYMENT OF AIRPORT SEVEN URBAN DEVELOPMENT ACTION GRANT (UDAG) ACCEPTING AN ADDITIONAL 6%,INTEREST PAYMENT FOR 89-431 SUCH EXTENSION OF TIME 1989 MIAMI/BAHAMAS GOOMBAY FESTIVAL CLOSURES, PEDESTRIAN G1+1IliiA�' -a a... FOR POLICE' OFRICERS °AND FIREFIGfl s AND (B) CEDARS MEDICAL CENTER INC. FOR {' MEDICAL ASSESSMENTS OF PROSPECTIVE AND 89.. CURRENT CITY EMPLOYEES. ALLOCATE AN &DDITIoNAL`$36,500 TO'INDEPBNDENT REVIEW ..PANEL FOR INVESTIGATING AND REVIEWING J`r COMMUNITY.RELATIONS BETWEEN POLICE 89�4,36 S OF OVERTOWN. OFFICERS ANDS 9 MIAM1,-DADE COMMUNITY COLLEGE: POSSIBLE PURCaASE OF CITY OWNED pEOp.ERTY: , (MUNIC TPAL ,'SHOP S `TRACT) N„Sd,.20Tfl-;STREET LOCATED` AT N.W. Ix` 10,H AgENUE x . r 8EL$I�SB s"'=PANBT= OCEAN' . F:�tOM ,ALL �4v ESTgIGTT-ON$ RIGHTS p#DER DEED R ALLOCATE ADDITIONAL; 090000 0 �i LAi.'-,ATTAN 'BUSINESS= DBVET+OP�IENT A' APT1100 SRC; ,AMEND PRi4R " '� i L _ k < • 4 i 1... 5 Y -P.fit "� `7`• -. p �vp bT Ulf 11G.RE�'iEN� t i 4t - i k. i Te Q 00 CQRP.�►�1T0�P&YIDS $► �. • _ AN,CONNUitTT7� , DOCUMENT INDEX 3 Ile 4 0001Ni DVITMATM At'1'REVA4 COW ,00. 7 AUTHORIZE ISSUANCE OF $69500,000 OF CITY pF MIAMI FLORIDA GUARANTEED ENTITLEMENT REVENUE BONDS,SERIES 1989.TO FINANCE COSTS OF CERTAIN 89-443 _ CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS AND EQUIPMENT. f, ACCEPT BID: PANDICK OF MIAMI. FOR r FURNISHING TYPESETTING, LAYOUT AND —�_ PRINTING OF OFFICIAL STATEMENT SPECIAL OBLIGATION BONDS FOR GSA GRAPHIC•REPRODUCTIONS DIVISION 89-444 , ($10,500,000). , REJECT PROTESTS FROM BERMELLO, KURKI, AND VERA INC. AND FROM BOSCO,KIRKLAND -= ARCHITECTS, AND TO UPHOLD PROTEST RECEIVED FROM CHARLES HARRISON PAWLEY ET AT REGARDING PROFESSIONAL_ _ ARCHITECTURAL/ENGINEERING SERVICES FOR 89-445 CITY ADMINISTRATION BUILDING PHASE II. EXECUTE LEASE AGREEMENT WITH GRQVECQMPQ, INC..OFFICE SPACE AT -Al 2850;TIGERTAIL AVENUE, -AND THE .. 89-446 —' MICROWAVE ROOM ON ROOF. AUTHORIZE MANAGER;TOIMARKET AND CONVEY TOiQUALiFIED LOW/MODERATE. INCOME HOME f: --<{ —F S;�TW(2) NEW SINGLE FAMILY HOMES BYER , plc ON CITY OWNED LOTS LOCATED AT N.W. 35TH STREET: IN•,WyNW00D COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT 89.-447, t . TARGET AREA- k3 ':. EXECUTE AGREEMENT WITH, PROPERTY OWNERS FORACQUISITION OF TWO PARCELS WITHIN EDISON LITTLE RIVER COMMUNITY sx DEVELOgMENT.AREAS (TARGET) TO DEVELOP AF:FORDABEL; HOUSING IN: CONNECTION: WITH THE .CITY .SPONSORED SCATTERED "SITEk AFFORDABLE°_HOUSING DEVELOPMENT 89'448 PROGRAM r AUTHORIZE PURCHASE AND.INSTALLAT.I,ON OF.�, ,n WELCOMRS,IGNSAT. INTERSECTION AYNE - QF: STRBET .AND. BI.SC.. YNE >r ' BOULEVARDS ;S . W, : STH- ,S,TREET AND .BI SCA r} k f ET AND- TAMIAMI 1; Bp:U;I.EVARDt: 5,.,; $Tii••':STRE,.. OAD .: C RTRDR J.AUSHW,AY ATWf {' r CANAL ;R AND,.MA A t SOUTHEASTERLY POINT `OF WATSON ISLAND. }s{ }a E $A'LFX.. EAE+TT,,>Q..S:.PID. WASTE; U,VISION.w . =n W:.RRB :F ors r�< CONTAMINATED. MATERIAL DODGE]FR024 �}�F� 4, If X r} 4 jq in DC>CUMENT INDEX PAw 4 or vl' momm owamm 000umtw RETREVAL CODE NO, RESTRICT VEHICULAR ACCESS TO N.W. 1ST AVENUE BETWEEN F.E.C. RAILROAD RIGHT- OF-WAY AND N.W; 8TH STREET DURING EVENTS HELD AT MIAMI ARENA. 89-451 CONFIRM ASSESSMENT ROLL FOR CONSTRUCTION OFLITTLERIVER HIGHWAY IMPROVEMENT -DISTRICT H-4482 89-452 RATIFY MANAGER'S FINDING OF EMERGENCY REGARDING INSTALLATION OF AIR CONDITIONING SYSTEM AND PAINTING EXISTING STRUCTURE UNDER: "COCONUT GROVE EXHIBITION CENTER -RENOVATION ABD EXOABSUIB" PROJECT. 89-453 GRANT REQUEST FOR NEIGHBORS TO BEGIN PROCESS FOR CREATION OF SPECIAL TAXING DISTRICT FOR THE GREATER BELLE MEADE, AREA (EXCLUSING BELLE MEADE ISLAND) TO PROVIDE GUARD HOUSE SERVICES. 89,454 CONSTITUTE A NORTHEAST AREA ASIAN VILLAGE COMMITTEE. APPOINT MEMBERS, 89-455', GRANT REQUEST BY MUSCULAR DYSTROPHY ASSOCIATION. WAIVE USER FEE FORA ,41 CITY PARK USE OF.THE SNOWMOBILE AND RENTAL OF BLEACHERS. 89-456 "1989 BUDWEISER UNLIMITED HYDROPLANE ia REGATTA" EXECUTE AGREEMENT WITH THE ANHEUSER-BUSCH, INC. FOR SPONSORSHIP OF THE EVENT TO BE HELD AT THE MIAMI MARINE STADIUM. 8 9 -4 5 7— APPROVE EXECUTION OF PARTICIPATION AGREEMNT BY DEPARTMENT OF OFF-STREET PARKING CONCERNING THE LOANING OF FUNDS FROM THE FIRST MUNICIPAL COUNCIL'S POOL w LOAN PROGRAM,.TO THE CITY OF MIAMI. AUTHORIZATION LOAN WAS RECOMMENDED IN CONNECTION.WITHFUNDING FOR THE COCONUT:'GROVE PLAYHOUSE PROJECT, THE REFINANCING OF TWO OUTSTANDING CITY - ,LOANS WITH BA�NETT. BANK TO BUILD THE ARENKPARKING AND FOR THE PURCHASE OF, LAND !N,THE .LATIN QUARTER AREA. OVERTOWN TAW FORCE ON STATUS OF,, PROJECTS,IN' OVERTOWN. AREA; WAIVE DEED RESTRICTIONS FOR POSSIBLE .r. HOUSING,UNITS. uo 5 OFPAGE.....r.r.. - i NE I.OVA DIRECT MANAGER TO EARMARK $500t000 PREVIOUSLY EARMARKED FOR HOUSING IN LITTLE HA'VANA FOR THE LATIN QUARTER DISTRICT PROJECT. kk l w•jY V� z� i rr , 4 j f r u S � i ? > X'�•3k,^3, , > { j ?v sKijr i+ E4