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CITY
MIAMI
OF ?WING HEU ON JANUARY 25, 1990
PLANNING AND ZONING
PREPARED BY THE OFFICE OF THE MY CLERK
CITY HALL
MATTY HIRAI
Ali City Clerk
ITEM
NO.
2.
2.1
INDEX
MINUTES OF REGULAR MEETING
CITY COMMISSION OF MIAMI, FLORIDA
JANUARY 25, 1990
SUBJECT
GRANT REQUEST FROM BALLET CONCERTO
COMPANY/CUBAN FOLKLORE OF MIAMI FOR
WAIVER OF RENTAL FEES AND PERCENTAGE OF
GROSS TICKET SALES FOR USE OF THE
MANUEL ARTIME PERFORMING ARTS CENTER
FOR CERTAIN DAYS IN 1990.
CONSENT AGENDA
LEGISLATION
R 90-65 -----
1/25/90
1/25/90
ACCEPT BID: DADE PAVING CORPORATION - R 90-66
FOR LOCAL, DRAINAGE PROJECT E-61 - 1/25/90
AUTHORIZE EXECUTION OF CONTRACT.
PAGE
NO.
2-3
3
2.2
ACCEPT BID: M. VILA AND ASSOCIATES,
R 90-67 3
INC. - ALTERNATE BASE BID PROPOSAL FOR
1/25/90
DOUGLAS PARK - PARKING LOT
RENOVATIONS - AUTHORIZE EXECUTION OF
CONTRACT.
2.3
ESTABLISH SPECIAL MOORING AND DOCKAGE
R 90-68 3-4
FEE FOR USE OF AVAILABLE SLIPS AT
1/25/90
MIAMARINA CONCERNING THE MIAMI
INTERNATIONAL BOAT SHOW.
2.4
ESTABLISH SPECIAL
R 90-69 4
CHARGES/TERMS/CONDITIONS FOR USE OF
1/25/90
ORANGE BOWL STADIUM BY POLYSPORT,
INC. - FOR PRESENTATION OF THE
CARIBBEAN BASEBALL WORLD SERIES.
3.
FIRST READING ORDINANCE: AMEND CODE
ORDINANCE 4
SECTIONS 54-101 AND 54.5-120)(4) -
FIRST READING
CLARIFY STANDARD STREET WIDTHS FOR
1/25/90
'UBLIC STREETS AND ADD DESIGN STANDARDS
FOR ONE-WAY PRIVATE STREETS.
4.
(A) DISCUSS AND TABLE PROPOSED
DISCUSSION 5-9
RESOLUTION TO AMEND THE INTERLOCAL
1/25/90
AGREEMENT AND CONTRACT BY AND BETWEEN
CITY OF MIAMI, METROPOLITAN DADE
COUNTY, MIAMI BEACH AND VILLAGE OF BAL
HARBOUR AND THE GREATER MIAMI
CONVENTION AND VISITORS BUREAU, INC. -
TO CARRY OUT CONVENTION PROMOTIONS,
BOOKINGS AND SALES ACTIVITIES ON BEHALF
OF THE PARTICIPATING PUBLIC AGENCIES
(See labels 7 and 11).
(B) BRIEF DISCUSSION WITH MERRETT
STIERHEIM (PRESIDENT AND CHIEF
EXECUTIVE OFFICER OF THE GREATER MIAMI
CONVENTION AND VISITORS BUREAU)
CONCERNING PROMOTION OF CONVENTIONS AND
TOURISM.
5. (A) ACCEPT A SET FLAT FEE OF $15,000 R 90-70
AS MINIMUM GUARANTEE FROM THE NATIONAL M 90-71
MARINE MANUFACTURERS ASSOCIATION - 1/25/90
CONCERNING ITS "PARK AND RIDE" SERVICE
ON WATSON ISLAND DURING THE MIAMI
INTERNATIONAL BOAT SHOW.
_ (B) GRANT NATIONAL MARINE
MANUFACTURERS ASSOCIATION'S REQUEST FOR
TWO OF THE TEN BANNER LOCATIONS OF THE
CITY TO PROMOTE ITS "PARK AND RIDE"
SERVICE ON WATSON ISLAND DURING THE
MIAMI INTERNATIONAL BOAT SHOW.
6. BRIEF DISCUSSION WITH CITY MANAGER M 90-72
CONCERNING PROPOSED ADVERTISING FOR THE 1/25/90
POSITION OF EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE
MIAMI SPORTS AND EXHIBITION AUTHORITY -
DIRECT LOCAL ADVERTISING ONLY.
7. (Continued discussion) DISCUSS AND DISCUSSION
TABLE PROPOSED RESOLUTION TO AMEND THE 1/25/90
INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT AND CONTRACT BY
AND BETWEEN CITY OF MIAMI, METROPOLITAN
DADE COUNTY, MIAMI BEACH AND VILLAGE OF
BAL HARBOUR AND THE GREATER MIAMI
CONVENTION AND VISITORS BUREAU, INC.
(See labels 4 and 11).
8. DIRECT CITY MANAGER TO REFER PROPOSAL M 90-73
FROM GEORGE MARTINEZ, CHAMBER OF 1/25/90
TOURISTS OF AMERICA, INC., TO THE
GREATER MIAMI CONVENTION AND VISITORS
BUREAU, INC. FOR CONSIDERATION OF THEIR
REQUEST.
9. ACCEPT BID: FRANK J. MORAN, INC. - R 90-74
FOR REPLACEMENT OF A 183-CELL SUPPLY TO 1/25/90
CITY'S COMPUTER DEPARTMENT - FOR
REHABILITATION OF ITS UPS BATTERY BANK
WHICH SUPPORTS POWER SUPPLY FOR THE
PUBLIC SAFETY COMMUNICATIONS SYSTEM -
FOR DEPARTMENT OF G.S.A.
10. PRESENTATIONS, PROCLAMATIONS AND PRESENTED
SPECIAL ITEMS. 1/25/90
I1. (Continued discussion) AUTHORIZE R 90-75
EXECUTION OF AMENDMENT TO INTERLOCAL 1/25/90
AGREEMENT AND CONTRACT BY AND BETWEEN
CITY OF MIAMI, METROPOLITAN DADE
COUNTY, MIAMI BEACIi AND VILLAGE OF BAL
HARBOUR AND THE GREATER MIAMI
CONVENTION AND VISITORS BUREAU, INC.
(See labels 4 and 7).
12. RATIFY CITY MANAGER'S ACTION IN R 90-76
EXECUTING AGREEMENT WITH AMY H. 1/25/90
JORDEN - TO PROVIDE ADMINISTRATIVE
ASSISTANCE TO THE MAYOR'S OFFICE.
9-12
13-18
18- 19
19-21
21-22
22
22-23
23-24
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13.
FIRST READING ORDINANCE: AMEND
ORDINANCE
ENVIRONMENTAL PRESERVATION DISTRICTS
FIRST READING
AND SCENIC TRANSPORTATION CORRIDORS
1/25/90
ATLAS OF THE CITY OF MIAMI - DESIGNATE
ALL PUBLIC RIGHTS OF WAY IN AREA
GENERALLY IINOWN AS "THE BRICKELL
HAMMOCK PARKWAY SYSTEM" AS A SCENIC
TRANSPORTATION CORRIDOR, (Applicant:
Planning Department.)
14.
FIRST READING ORDINANCE: AMEND 9500,
ORDINANCE
ARTICLE 15-SPI (SPECIAL PUBLIC INTEREST
FIRST READING
DISTRICTS) - ADD SPI-21 RIMER QUADRANT
1/25/90
MIXED USE DISTRICT - PROVIDE INTENT AND
SPECIAL PERMITS, ESTABLISH PERMISSIBLE
PRINCIPAL USES AND STRUCTURES, etc.
(Applicant: Planning Department.)
15.
FIRST READING ORDINANCE: AMEND ZONING
ORDINANCE
ATLAS FROM WF-1/7 WATERFRONT INDUSTRIAL
FIRST READING
AND CG-1/7 COMMERCIAL GENERAL TO SPI-21
1/25/90
RIVER QUADRANT MIXED USE DISTRICT TO
PROPERTY GENERALLY BOUNDED BY S.W. 2
AVENUE, THE MIAMI RIVER, I-95 RIGHT-OF-
WAY, AND S.W. 2 STREET. (Applicant:
Planning Department.)
16.
BRIEF COMMENTS WITH GUY SANCHEZ, OF
DISCUSSION
FLORIDA POWER AND LIGHT, CONCERNING
1/25/90
LIGHTING PROBLEMS ACROSS FROM CITY HALL
ON SOUTH BAYSHORE DRIVE.
17.
DISCUSS AND CONTINUE TO FEBRUARY 15TH
1: 90-77
APPEAL BY ARTURO G. CARABALLO TO REVIEW
1/25/90
ZONING BOARD'S APPROVAL OF AN APPEAL,
WHICH REVERSED A DECISION OF THE ZONING
ADMINISTRATOR ELIMINATING COOKING ON
THE PREMISES AT 3328 S.W. 23 TERRACE -
DIRECT AL CARDENAS, ESQ. TO TRY TO
REACH SOME KIND OF AGREEMENT WITH
NEIGHBORS IN THE AREA.
18.
CORRECT SCRIVENER'S ERROR BY FINDING
R 90-78
THAT PAGES 6 AND 7 (EXHIBIT "A") WERE
1/25/90
INADVERTENTLY OMITTED AND SHOULD HAVE
BEEN INCLUDED AS EXHIBIT "B" OF
RESOLUTION 89-989 (OCTOBER 26, 1989) -
A MAJOR USE PERMIT WHICH APPROVED TWO
PARKING STRUCTURES FOR STATE OF FLORIDA
DADE COUNTY REGIONAL SERVICE CENTER
PROJECT.
19.
FIRST READING ORDINANCE: AMEND CODE
ORDINANCE
CHAPTER 62, SECTION 62-16 - REQUIRE A
FIRST READING
COMPANION ZONING APPLICATION AND
1/25/90
REORGANIZE SCHEDULE FOR SEMIANNUAL PLAN
AMENDMENTS; SECTION 62-18 TO REFERENCE
THE PLANNING ADVISORY BOARD AS THE
LOCAL PLANNING AGENCY - INSERT NEW
SECTION 62-19 ("LAND DEVELOPMENT
REGULATIONS"), ETC. (Applicant:
Planning Department.)
24-25
25-3 2
33
34
34-59
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20. FIRST READING ORDINANCE: AMEND 9500,
PAGE 4 OF OFFICIAL SCHEDULE OF DISTRICT
REGULATIONS - INSERT NEW CR-3
COMMERCIAL -RESIDENTIAL (GENERAL)
TITLE - PROVIDE SALE OF USED CARS IS
PERMISSIBLE BY SPECIAL EXCEPTION
SUBJECT TO LIMITATION, ETC. (Applicant:
Planning Department.)
21. (A) MODIFY PROPOSED NEW ZONING
ORDINANCE - ELIMINATE SD-12 OVERLAY
DISTRICT FROM S.W. 22 TERRACE BETWEEN
17 AND 27 AVENUES, TO PREVENT
COMMERCIAL ENCROACHMENT.
(B) MODIFY PROPOSED NEW ZONING
ORDINANCE - ELIMINATE SD-12 OVERLAY
DISTRICT IN AREA ALONG BOTH SIDES OF
CORAL WAY FROM 12 AVENUE TO CITY LIMITS
(37 AVENUE), TO PREVENT COMMERCIAL
ENCROACHMENT.
(C) MODIFY PROPOSED NEW ZONING
ORDINANCE - CHANGE ZONING
CLASSIFICATION ON THE TWO CITY -OWNED
LOTS AT APPROX. S.W. 24 STREET AND 24
TERRACE BETWEEN 19 AND 21 AVENUES
(GOLDEN ARMS) TO PR (PUBLIC
RECREATION).
(D) MODIFY PROPOSED NEW ZONING
ORDINANCE - CHANGE ZONING
CLASSIFICATION IN AREA OF MIAMI RIVER
FROM 22 TO 27 AVENUES (PARADISE POINT)
TO SD-4 (SPECIAL WATERFRONT DISTRICT).
(E) MODIFY PROPOSED NEW ZONING
ORDINANCE - CHANGE MASTER PLAN
DESIGNATION FOR THE MIAMI JEWISH HOME
PROPERTY (APPROX. AT N.E. 2 AVENUE AND
52 STREET) FROM CG-2/7 TO I/G
(INSTITUTIONAL/GOVERNMENT) - DIRECT
PLANNING DEPARTMENT TO STUDY AREA AND
BRING BACK RECOMMENDATION AS TO
POSSIBLE RAMIFICATIONS OF THIS
REZONING.
(F) INSTRUCT PLANNING DEPARTMENT TO
STUDY AREA AROUND N.W. 5 STREET AND 2
AVENUE FOR POSSIBLE CHANGE OF PLAN
DESIGNATION/ZONING CLASSIFICATION IN
PROPOSED NEW ZONING ORDINANCE.
(G) MODIFY PROPOSED NEW ZONING
ORDINANCE - ELIMINATE ALL COMMERCIAL
BUILDING ENCROACHMENT ON RESIDENTIAL
PROPERTY IN PROPOSED SD-12 DISTRICT
THROUGHOUT CITY.
(H) DIRECT PLANNING DEPARTMENT TO
CONDUCT A STUDY OF PROPOSED ZONING
ATLAS (PAGE 33 - N.W. 36 COURT BETWEEN
7 AND FLAGLER STREETS) FOR POSSIBLE
MULTIFAMILY PLAN DESIGNATION/CHANGE OF
ZONING - INSTRUCT PLANNING DEPARTMENT
TO AMEND PROPOSED R-3 ZONING DISTRICT
IN NEW ZONING ORDINANCE TO REFLECT
CERTAIN NEW PROVISIONS FOR PARKING
REQUIREMENTS.
(I) MODIFY PROPOSED NEW ZONING
ORDINANCE - CHANGE MINIMUM LOT SIZE IN
THE R-3 DISTRICT FROM 10,000 SQ. FEET
TO 5,000 SQ. FEET.
(J) DELETE ALL TRANSFER OP' DEVELOPMENT
RIGHTS SECTIONS FROM PROPOSED NEW
ZONING ORDINANCE - INCLUDE LINKAGE
PROGRAM FOR UP TO ADDITIONAL 25% F.A.R.
IN APPROPRIATE DISTRICTS, WITH
PROVISOS.
ORDINANCE
FIRST READING
1/25/90
M 90-79
M 90-80
M 90-81
M 90-82
M 90-83
M 90-84
M 90-85
M 90-86
M 90-87
M 90-88
ORDINANCE
FIRST READING
1 ; 25/90
62
63-•139
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(K) FIRST READING ORDINANCE: REPEAL
ORDINANCE 9500 - SUBSTITUTE NEW ZONING
ORDINANCE - BY MAKING FINDINGS,
CONTAINING AUTHORITY, INTENT AND
PURPOSE, AND SHORT TITLE SECTIONS;
REGULATING LAND, WATER AND STRUCTURES,
USES AND OCCUPANCIES, HEIGHT AND BULK,
DENSITY, LOT COVERAGE, etc.; PROVIDE
FOR OFFICIAL ZONING ATLAS AND OFFICIAL
SCHEDULE OF DISTRICT REGULATIONS,
ZONING DISTRICTS, PLAN DEVELOPMENT
DISTRICTS, SPECIAL PUBLIC INTEREST
DISTRICTS, etc.; PROVIDE FOR FUNCTIONS
AND RESPONSIBILITIES OF CITY
COMMISSION, OFFICERS AND BOARDS,
SPECIAL PERMITS, SPECIAL EXCEPTIONS,
PROVIDING FOR APPEALS, etc.; PROVIDE
FOR EFFECTIVE DATE.
22. DISCUSS AND CONTINUE (TO SECOND MEETING
IN MARCH) CONSIDERATION OF APPEAL BY
OBJECTORS OF ZONING BOARD'S DECISION TO
APPROVE PLANNING DIRECTOR'S APPROVAL OF
CLASS C SPECIAL PERMIT FOR PROPOSED 19-
STORY (251 UNIT) APARTMENT CONDOMINIUM
("THE OASIS ON BRICKELL").
23. DIRECT ADMINISTRATION (PUBLIC WORKS
DEPARTMENT) TO COME BACK TO NEXT CITY
COMMISSION MEETING WITH RECOMMENDATION
FOR SERIES OF ONE-WAY STREETS (BETWEEN
S.W. 22 AND 24 AVENUES AND S.W. 24
AVENUE INCLUDING S.W. 27 TERRACE, 27
LANE AND S.W. 28 STREET ) -
IMPLEMENTATION OF SAID ONE-WAY STREET
DIRECTIONS TO BE IMPLEMENTED FOR PERIOD
OF 90 DAYS.
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DISCUSSION
1/25/90
M 90-89
1/25/90
24. BRIEF COMMENTS BY COMMISSIONER PLUMMER DISCUSSION
CONCERNING FOOD PROGRAM DRIVE TO BE 1/25/90
CONDUCTED AMONG CITY EMPLOYEES.
139-141
141-151
151-152
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MINUTES OF REGULAR MEETING OF THE
CITY COMMISSION OF MIAMI, FLORIDA
On the 25th day of January, 1990, the City Commission, of Miami, Florida,
met at its regular meeting place in the City Hall, 3500 Pan American Drive,
Miami, Florida in regular session.
The meeting was called to order at 9:05 a.m. by Mayor Xavier Suarez with
the following members of the Commission found to be present:
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner Miriam Alonso
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
ABSENT: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Vice Mayor Victor De Yurre
ALSO PRESENT:
Cesar Odio, City Manager
Jorge L. Fernandez, City Attorney
Matty Hirai, City Clerk
Walter J. Foeman, Assistant City Clerk
An invocation was delivered by Mayor Suarez who then led those present
in a pledge of allegiance to the flag.
1. GRANT REQUEST FROM BALLET CONCERTO COMPANY/CUBAN FOLKLORE OF MIAMI FOR
WAIVER OF RENTAL FEES AND PERCENTAGE OF GROSS TICKET SALES FOR USE OF
THE MANUEL ARTIME PERFORMING ARTS CENTER FOR CERTAIN DAYS IN 1990.
Mayor Suarez: J. L., did you want to mention an item?
Commissioner Plummer: Thank you. I'd like to bring up, one of the things Mr.
Mayor, is, we've spent an awful lot of money on the Artime Center of redoing
it and it's not really being used and I guess it's the inactivity that breeds
inactivity. I have a request here from the Ballet Concerto who would like to
use the facility and hopefully will generate some activity in that area and it
is for the waiver of the rental and the 10 percent ticket performance for
April 1, June 3, October 19 and December 2. I think that it would be well
worth getting something in there which hopefully will bring people to that
facility if people will see what the facility is and use it for more so
because I think it is a thing that if not, we are going to have to wind up
doing subsidy, so I would move at this time, Mr. Mayor, that we grant the
request of Ballet Concerto for... do I need English lessons? ... for these as
requested.
Mayor Suarez: The Concerto folks, let's call it.
Commissioner Plummer: I so move, Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Suarez: So moved.
Commissioner Alonso: Second.
Mayor Suarez: What exactly are we doing? Are sending in effect to the
Manager to negotiate with them some sort of a tenancy?
Commissioner Plummer: Well, if it asks for the waiver and the 10 percent, and
I don't know what there is to negotiate at this particular time. Hopefully,
it will be successful and in the future they will be able to pay their own
way.
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Mayor Suarez: And what is the term?
Commissioner Plummer:
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No, there are four particular dates.
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Mayor Suarez: Four particular dates, OK.
Commissioner Plummer: Correct.
Mayor Suarez: Any discussion? If not, please call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved
its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 90-65
A RESOLUTION GRANTING THE REQUEST OF THE BALLET
CONCERTO COMPANY OF MIAMI/CUBAN FOLKLORE OF MIAMI FOR
A WAIVER OF THE $350 RENTAL FEE AND TEN (10) PERCENT
OF GROSS TICKET SALES FOR FOUR (4) FUTURE PERFORMANCES
TO BE HELD AT THE MANUEL ARTIME PERFORMING ARTS CENTER
DURING 1990, CONDITIONED UPON THE ORGANIZATION
OBTAINING INSURANCE REQUIREMENTS AS MANDATED BY THE
CITY OF MIAMI AND PAYING FOR ANY COSTS ABOVE AND
BEYOND THOSE FEES GRANTED BY THIS RESOLUTION.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Alonso, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner Miriam Alonso
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Victor De Yurre
Vice Mayor Miller J. Dawkins
2. CONSENT AGENDA
Mayor Suarez: CA-1 through 4...
Commissioner Plummer: I move them.
Mayor Suarez: ... constitute the Consent Agenda. If there is no one that
wishes to be heard on those items, we will take them up collectively. Let the
record reflect that no one has stepped forward to be heard on those items and
they've been moved...
Commissioner Plummer: Wait a minute, I think Mr. Rotor Ruder wants to speak.
Mr. Alberto Ruder: No, I don't.
Commissioner Plummer: OK.
Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded by Commissioner Alonso. Any discussion? If
not, please call the roll.
Mr. Fernandez: Mr. Mayor...
Mayor Suarez: Yes.
Mr. Fernandez: Just a minor correction. On the title of the Consent Agenda
number one, on the title of it, the amount, there is a discrepancy of the
amount which is being corrected. It is just a typo, but the correct amount
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Mayor Suarez: And what is the term?
Commissioner Plummer:
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No, there are four particular dates.
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Mayor Suarez: Four particular dates, OK.
Commissioner Plummer: Correct.
Mayor Suarez: Any discussion? If not, please call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved
its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 90-65
A RESOLUTION GRANTING THE REQUEST OF THE BALLET
CONCERTO COMPANY OF MIAMI/CUBAN FOLKLORE OF MIAMI FOR
A WAIVER OF THE $350 RENTAL FEE AND TEN (10) PERCENT
OF GROSS TICKET SALES FOR FOUR (4) FUTURE PERFORMANCES
TO BE HELD AT THE MANUEL ARTIME PERFORMING ARTS CENTER
DURING 1990, CONDITIONED UPON THE ORGANIZATION
OBTAINING INSURANCE REQUIREMENTS AS MANDATED BY THE
CITY OF MIAMI AND PAYING FOR ANY COSTS ABOVE AND
BEYOND THOSE FEES GRANTED BY THIS RESOLUTION.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Alonso, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner Miriam Alonso
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Victor De Yurre
Vice Mayor Miller J. Dawkins
2. CONSENT AGENDA
Mayor Suarez: CA-1 through 4...
Commissioner Plummer: I move them.
Mayor Suarez: ... constitute the Consent Agenda. If there is no one that
wishes to be heard on those items, we will take them up collectively. Let the
record reflect that no one has stepped forward to be heard on those items and
they've been moved...
Commissioner Plummer: Wait a minute, I think Mr. Rotor Ruder wants to speak.
Mr. Alberto Ruder: No, I don't.
Commissioner Plummer: OK.
Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded by Commissioner Alonso. Any discussion? If
not, please call the roll.
Mr. Fernandez: Mr. Mayor...
Mayor Suarez: Yes.
Mr. Fernandez: Just a minor correction. On the title of the Consent Agenda
number one, on the title of it, the amount, there is a discrepancy of the
amount which is being corrected. It is just a typo, but the correct amount
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should be $533,000, not $535,000, like on the second place on the title of the
agenda. It is ,just a minor...
Mayor Suarez: So corrected. Call the roll.
THEREUPON, THE FOLLOWING ITEMS, CA-1 THROUGH CA-4 COMPRISING THE
CONSENT AGENDA WAS DULY MOVED BY COMMISSIONER PLUMMER, SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER ALONSO AND APPROVED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE OF THE
COMMISSION:
AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner Miriam Alonso
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Victor De Yurre
Vice Mayor Miller J. Dawkins
2.1 ACCEPT BID: DADE PAVING CORPORATION - FOR LOCAL DRAINAGE PROJECT E-61 -
AUTHORIZE EXECUTION OF CONTRACT.
RESOLUTION NO. 90-66
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BID OF DADE PAVING
CORPORATION, IN THE PROPOSED AMOUNT OF $533,525.00,
TOTAL BID OF THE PROPOSAL, FOR LOCAL DRAINAGE
PROJECT E-61; WITH MONIES THEREFOR ALLOCATED FROM
THE 1990 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT ORDINANCE NO. 10642,
PROJECT NO. 351167 IN THE AMOUNT OF $533,525.00 TO
COVER THE CONTRACT COST; AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY
MANAGER TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT WITH SAID FIRM.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and
on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
2.2 ACCEPT BID: M. VILA AND ASSOCIATES, INC. - ALTERNATE BASE BID PROPOSAL
FOR DOUGLAS PARK - PARKING LOT RENOVATIONS - AUTHORIZE EXECUTION OF
CONTRACT.
RESOLUTION NO. 90-67
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BID OF M. VILA &
ASSOCIATES INC., IN THE PROPOSED AMOUNT OF
$95,837.50, ALTERNATE BASE BID OF THE PROPOSAL, FOR
DOUGLAS PARK - PARKING LOT RENOVATIONS; WITH MONIES
THEREFOR ALLOCATED FROM THE 1990 CAPITAL
IMPROVEMENTS ORDINANCE NO. 10642, PROJECT NO. 331340
IN THE AMOUNT OF $95,837.50 TO COVER THE CONTRACT
COST; AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A
CONTRACT WITH SAID FIRM.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and
on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
2.3 ESTABLISH SPECIAL MOORING AND DOCKAGE FEE FOR USE OF AVAILABLE SLIPS AT
MIAMARINA CONCERNING THE MIAMI INTERNATIONAL BOAT SHOW.
RESOLUTION NO. 90-68
A RESOLUTION ESTABLISHING A SPECIAL MOORING AND
DOCKAGE FEE OF $0.60 PER LINEAR FOOT PER DAY FOR THE
USE OF AVAILABLE SLIPS AT MIAMARINA BY PARTICIPANTS
AND GUESTS OF THE MIAMI INTERNATIONAL BOAT SHOW
DURING THE PERIOD FEBRUARY 11 THROUGH 23, 1990;
SUBJECT TO SUCH CONDITIONS AND LIMITATIONS AS MAY BE
PRESCRIBED BY THE ADMINISTRATION OF THE CITY OF
MIAMI
3 January 25, 1990
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and
on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
2.4 ESTABLISH SPECIAL CHARGES/TERMS/CONDITIONS FOR USE OF ORANGE BOWL
STADIUM BY POLYSPORT, INC. - FOR PRESENTATION OF THE CARIBBEAN BASEBALL
WORLD SERIES.
RESOLUTION NO. 90-69
A RESOLUTION, WITH ATTACHMENT, ESTABLISHING SPECIAL
CHARGES, TERMS AND CONDITIONS FOR THE USE OF THE
ORANGE BOWL STADIUM BY POLYSPORT, INC. FOR THE
PRESENTATION OF THE CARIBBEAN BASEBALL WORLD SERIES
ON AN ANNUAL BASIS FOR A THREE YEAR PERIOD BEGINNING
FEBRUARY, 1990 ON SELECTED DATES GENERALLY IN
FEBRUARY EACH YEAR; FURTHER AUTHORIZING THE CITY
MANAGER TO EXECUTE AN AGREEMENT, IN SUBSTANTIALLY
THE ATTACHED FORM, BETWEEN THE CITY OF MIAMI AND
SAID ORGANIZATION FOR THIS PURPOSE.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and
on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
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3. FIRST READING ORDINANCE: AMEND CODE SECTIONS 54-101 AND 54.5-12(D)(4) -
CLARIFY STANDARD STREET WIDTHS FOR PUBLIC STREETS AND ADD DESIGN
STANDARDS FOR ONE-WAY PRIVATE STREETS.
Mayor Suarez: Item 2.
Commissioner Plummer: Move it.
Mayor Suarez: First reading, so moved.
Commissioner Alonso: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Seconded. Any discussion If not, please read the ordinance.
Call the roll.
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTIONS 540101 AND 54.5-
12(D)(4) OF THE CODE OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA, AS
AMENDED BY CLARIFYING STANDARD STREET WIDTHS FOR
PUBLIC STREETS AND BY ADDING DESIGN STANDARDS FOR ONE-
WAY PRIVATE STREETS; CONTAINING A REPEALER PROVISION,
SEVERABILITY CLAUSE AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
Was introduced by Commissioner Plummer and seconded by Commissioner
Alonso and was passed on its first reading by title by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner Miriam Alonso
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Victor De Yurre
Vice Mayor Miller J. Dawkins
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and
announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commission and
to the public.
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4. (A) DISCUSS AND TABLE PROPOSED RESOLUTION TO AMEND THE INTERLOCAL
AGREEMENT AND CONTRACT BY AND BETWEEN CITY OF MIAMI,
METROPOLITAN DADE COUNTY, MIAMI BEACH AND VILLAGE OF BAL HARBOUR
AND THE GREATER MIAMI CONVENTION AND VISITORS BUREAU, INC. - TO
CARRY OUT CONVENTION PROMOTIONS, BOOKINGS AND SALES ACTIVITIES
ON BEHALF OF THE. PARTICIPATING PUBLIC AGENCIES (See labels 7 and
11).
(B) BRIEF DISCUSSION WITH MERRETT STIERHEIM (PRESIDENT AND CHIEF
EXECUTIVE OFFICER OF THE GREATER MIAMI CONVENTION AND VISITORS
BUREAU) CONCERNING PROMOTION OF CONVENTIONS AND TOURISM.
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Mayor Suarez: Item 3.
Commissioner Plummer: Move it.
Mayor Suarez: Moved. Is this the Greater Miami Convention and Visitor's
Bureau, by any chance.
Commissioner Alonso: Yes, I second.
Mayor Suarez: I see Mr. Stierheim. It's been seconded. Merritt, would you
come up to the mike for a couple of seconds? Let me tell the Commission I
have tried to reach Vice Mayor Dawkins to see what his feeling was
procedurally on our handling of this item since he had sat on the board, the
executive board, I think it is called, right, Merrett? - for the last couple
of years, I believe, and they have not been able to reach him. The item
certainly has been discussed here plenty enough, so it isn't like anybody's
going to be surprised and I believe he would have known at the time that it
was scheduled that it would be up for consideration today, wouldn't he?
Mr. Odio: I really don't know.
Mayor Suarez: Don't know. Should
Merrett, like anything else in life,
fact that he will be arriving today at
we would have to move to reconsider.
place, so I just want you...
there by any objections on his part,
I hope that you take into account the
3:00 p.m. Conceivably in the afternoon
I can't imagine that that would take
Mr. Merrett Stierheim: Oh, tt.at .:•ould be perfectly all right. I mean, I...
Mayor Suarez: We don't think that we would have a special session, so our
next Commission meeting would be on the 8th of February, I believe, or 7th,
but I should know by the end of the afternoon today whether he has any
objections to our having taken up the item without his expressed...
Mr. Stierheim: Maybe I could... may I make a suggestion, Mr. Mayor? If it is
your pleasure to proceed, you could approve it and then with the understanding
that if Commissioner Dawkins has any serious problems, it could be brought
back before the Commission.
Mayor Suarez: Absolutely, that's our intention. If no one else has any
questions, I do want to put on the record what I said to you yesterday as we
met in the parking lot that having just come from the Far East, there is an
incredible lack of presence for Miami in terms of advertising or just
visibility, even brochures that can be distributed. Each agency that we have
produces some brochures and so on, so we do have some materials to give out.
But very little by way of formal advertising and I know your predecessor had
the belief that we ought to promote conventions, but I think that we ought to
promote also classic tourism and in the Far East they have a real preference
for cites with warm weather. Probably my fellow Commissioners know more about
it than I do, they travel more, possibly, but it is just incredible how little
they know about Miami. What they know is all Miami Vice, basically.
Mr. Stierheim. I'll try to be responsible to that. May I take this
opportunity to just say something very briefly?
Mayor Suarez: At your own risk.
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Mr. Stierheim: I very much appreciate the comments that have been made
publicly and privately by members of the Commission and I worked closely with
Cesar through the years and I've already met with Tony Pajares and members of
this staff. I just want to pledge to you that I'm very confident that we are
going to work closely together and I want you to feel a sense of ownership and
identify with the bureau. I think that in the coming months and years I'll
demonstrate that, but I want to thank you for the positive things that you've
said about me personally and hopefully it's a new day.
Mayor Suarez: Well, the budget is already going to be less for legal fees
because we've handled all of this without your attorney being present and we
are about take a vote on it, so...
Mr. Stierheim: Is that right?
Commissioner Alonso: Yes, I'd like to make also a comment about, Mr. Mayor...
Mayor Suarez: Commissioner Alonso.
Mr. Stierheim: Well, she is just here to interpret for me if I need
interpretation, nothing else.
Commissioner Alonso: Yes, I'd like to say I've had a very nice conversation
with Merrett Stierheim and I really enjoyed it. I have faith in the future
and I hope that they will listen to Miami much more. I also discussed with
him that I had a serious concern in the agreement by which the real
contribution that the City of Miami made, it's not what is stated in the
agreement, it is mentioned that our contribution is only $100,000, when it is
in fact, it is over 50 percent of the amount sent by the County. I expressed
to him as I had said in the previous meeting that I would like that to be
included in the agreement as a recognition of respect to the City of Miami and
it is only just that it is included somehow in this agreement and in future
references in the future years ahead. I also would like to say that, as Mayor
Suarez has stated, I feel very strongly that our image, not only
internationally, but even in the United States, it's something that needs to
be reflected and addressed and I hope that our voice will be heard a little
bit more than in past years because the working relationship with the City of
Miami has not been as effective as it could have been, but I have faith in the
job that you will do I am sure that we will be able to work with you in that.
Mr. Stierheim: Thank you, Commissioner.
Mayor Suarez: OK, anything further on the item?
NOTE FOR THE RECORD: COMMISSIONER DE YURRE ENTERED THE MEETING AT
9:12 A.M.
Mr. Plummer: Merrett, let me just say to you I am tickled pink that you are
aboard and now directing that office. Merrett, I want to remind you, this
contract is only for one year and by performance, we will deal with it again
in the coming year. Let me just offer you a suggestion, and I don't think,
Mr. Mayor, I am out of line. You tell me if I am. In keeping with the
Mayor'a comments, I have a very close friend in Tokyo who is the financial
vice president of American Express who are spending $5,000,000 a month to
generate the United States and I think that you could possibly tie in with
that individual and possibly do some good from the ground up with that and
I'll be glad to impart that name to you.
Mr. Stierheim: I'll follow up with you, thank you.
Commissioner Alonso: If I may add just one...
Mayor Suarez: Commissioner Alonso.
Commissioner Alonso: ... minor thing and I do hope that the bureau discovered
Latin America, such an important part of the world and also minorities, to
work with them, that could really be very helpful to the work of the bureaus as
well as to image all through the world. Thank you.
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Mayor Suarez: Call the roll on the item. _
_ Mr. Fernandez: Mr. Mayor, a point of clarification. Are the suggestions made
by Commissioner Alonso to modify the present agreement part of the motion to
pass this item?
Mayor Suarez: Which were those?
Mr. Fernandez: To modify the proper funding formula.
Mayor Suarez: Oh yes, to recognize the City's input by vay of, even though it
is not directly handled by us, by way of what it comes out to be. Merrett,
you have no problem with that?
Mr. Stierheim: Yes, may I... what I suggested yesterday when I met with
Commissioner Alonso is that I would be happy to put that in writing annually.
It could be attached as an addendum. Whatever it is, it is. Right now it is
approximately $2,600,000 is collected within the City and Commissioner Alonso
is absolutely correct. It will change from year to year and I think legal
counsel has advised me not to be specific, but we could put an addendum to it
or we could reference it.
Mayor Suarez: Oh, the agreement will not specify the amount. It would
specify that the amount has to be mentioned somewhere, fairly prominently, I
guess.
Mr. Stierheim: That is what we are suggesting if we could do that.
Commissioner Alonso: Yes, it would be advisable. It is my understanding by
the figures given to me through the county, the bureau and every source that I
have approached, that the contribution made by the City of Miami is around the
neighborhood of SO percent of the amount that the County gives to the bureau.
It is important that it is stated because it is a recognition to the City of
Miami because we indeed provide that amount of money.
Mr. Stierheim: If the minutes will reflect, I will give you a letter that
will break it down as to exactly where it's collected and it can be attached
to the document.
Mr. Fernandez: It's still not clear to me, Mr. Mayor that that meets the
intent of Commissioner Alonso's request that it be part of the agreement, the
item that you are passing today.
Commissioner Alonso: If we would do it in the form of an attachment, do you
have objections that we make an attachment... we add an addendum?
Mr. Stierheim: The problem is that if you change the body of the document
now, we've got to go back to the County and everybody else.
Mr. Odio: Let me say something. This is not a two-party deal. This goes
with Bal Harbour., Miami Beach, and then you would have to go back and change
all of the contents.
Commissioner Alonso: Mr. Manager, do you think any City would have any
objections as not... as any kind of opposition to the City of Miami showing
exactly what is our real contribution? I think it is unfair to the City of
Miami that we provide 50 percent and it's not even mentioned in the body of
the agreement. To me this is going too far.
Mr. Stierheim: What I am suggesting, counsel, is that I will give you an
accounting and it can be attached to the document and recorded with the
document.
Mayor Suarez: Your counsel is here, but if it is not a material change of the
reciprocal agreements with the other parties, I can't imagine that it affects
the validity of those other agreements. I can't... just the fact that you
enter into a clarifying subsidiary agreement with the City I don't think will
create a problem for ue.
Mr. Stierheim: I'm advised that if we change the document as it stands before
you... I mean, I'm agreeing with what you want to do and you can attach it to
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it, and 1111 supply you with an audited statement that will indicate and I
agree with the position the Commissioner has taken that it's about $2,600,000,
but we change the document itself, we've got to go back and have it amended
and have it reapproved in the County, in Miami Beach and so forth, so I mean
I'm...
Mayor Suarez: I don't think you have to, but I'm not going to argue with you
or counselor, you're paying her good money.
Commissioner Alonso: Mayor, I'd like to hear the opinion of the City Attorney
on this matter. How do you feel about this? I feel strongly enough, I did
explain this to you that I feel it's only justified that the City of Miami is
mentioned with the real contribution that we made if for not any other reason,
just for the simple reason that it is some show of respect to us and also
showing that in the future our voice will be heard according to the
contribution that we made.
Mr. Fernandez: My response to that, Commissioner Alonso would be that this is
not a legal issue because the inclusion of this language would not work to
make the contract operate differently. It is not an operational provision of
the contract, it is rather a quote, unquote, a feel -good type of policy
restatement that it would be then the choice and the call of this Commission,
whether to in fact have it as part of the contract, or as an attachment or
separate document to the contract and then in subsequent years, when they come
back, then it should be incorporated into the contract. That would be a
compromise situation.
Commissioner Plummer: The question is, how do we get the most mileage out of
the fact that the City of Miami, in its hotels and beverage, do in fact, and I
think that's the really real crux of what she's...
Mayor Suarez: Yes, as a matter of fact...
Commissioner Plummer: Recognition, that's what she's talking about!
Mayor Suarez: And actually, the mechanics of how it's stated to the world is
really more important to us than the fact that the agreement says it. The
budget is what should say it. That's where we'd like to see it, in the budget
somewhere, and that can only be done, I guess, the next fiscal year.
Mr. Stierheim: I will give you a certified letter stating that to each of
you. You can attach it to the document. I'm not...
Commissioner Plummer: But Merrett, that's not what we are looking for. What
we're looking for is to let the community know, OK? We know. It's not a
letter to us, we know that. But when you give your state of address, as they
do every year and any of the documents that go out, I think the City is
looking for recognition, that's the important factor.
Commissioner Alonso: To everyone else, the City of Miami contribution is only
$100,000. It is unfair. It is unfair because it is not included in the body
of the agreement and I think it should state that the City of Miami
contribution is in the neighborhood of 50 percent of the money provided by
Dade County and it is my strong belief that it should be stated and recognized
because it is a form of saying, "Yes, we recognize your contribution."
Mr. Stierheim: Well, I'm willing to publicize it in anyway that I can. I'm
acknowledging it and I'm just asking you not to tamper with the agreement at
this point, because otherwise I am going to have to...
Mayor Suarez: I've got an idea. How about if we wait...
Mr. Stierheim: Commissioner, what I am going to have to do is go back to the
County and have it amended and please...
Mayor Suarez: Wait, Merrett, Merrett...
Mr. Stierheim: Yes.
Mayor Suarez: I know when you were County Manager you did whatever you wanted
over there, which...
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-- Mr. Stierheim: No, no.
Commissioner Plummer: That's not true, because he stayed Manager.
Mayor Suarez: That's right. Would you...
Mr. Stierheim: That's one of the reasons for survival.
Mayor Suarez: About if we table this? Lucia, would you and one of the City
Attorneys involved in this meet for a few minutes? It may be a way we can
structure this so that it doesn't require going back to the other Cities for
modification. I have a feeling that in your infinite legal abilities you'd
come up with a way of doing it, because otherwise we are going to argue about
it all day.
Mr. Fernandez: You are tabling then?
Mayor Suarez: Yes, we are tabling.
Commissioner Alonso: We tabled, yes.
AT THIS POINT, THE FOREGOING ITEM WAS TABLED.
NOTE FOR THE RECORD: At this point, Agenda item 4 was withdrawn.
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5. (A) ACCEPT A SET FLAT FEE OF $15,000 AS MINIMUM GUARANTEE FROM THE
NATIONAL MARINE MANUFACTURERS ASSOCIATION - CONCERNING ITS "PARK
AND RIDE" SERVICE ON WATSON ISLAND DURING THE MIAMI
INTERNATIONAL BOAT SHOW.
(B) GRANT NATIONAL MARINE. MANUFACTURERS ASSOCIATION'S REQUEST FOR
TWO OF THE TEN BANNER LOCATIONS OF THE CITY TO PROMOTE ITS "PARK
AND RIDE" SERVICE ON WATSON ISLAND DURING THE MIAMI
INTERNATIONAL BOAT SHOW.
Mayor Suarez: Item 5.
Commissioner Plummer: Why is this coming back? Mr. Manager? This matter was
dealt with before, why is it coming back?
Mr. Odio: - requested to come back.
Commissioner Plummer: Lot of nerve! OK.
Mr. Lloyd Yanis: If I may address the Commission, Mr. Mayor. Lloyd Yanis,
representing National Marilee Manufacturers Association. The reason I asked to
bring this back and I certainly understand what happened the last time this
came along, is basically that the National Marine Manufacturers Associations,
which promotes this event in Miami is a service organization, not a private
promoter, but a service organization for the industry. For the record, it's
for boating industry and for the members of our industry that are in this
community. As a service organization, we feel that we think that we are
providing a service to the industry and to the community that's very
beneficial.
Commissioner Plummer: Is this profit making?
Mr. Yanis: It is a nonprofit association.
Commissioner Plummer: Association, but is there a profit being made?
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Mr. Yonia: At the boat show, yea, air.
Commissioner Plummer: Yes, that's right.
Mr. Yanis: There is a profit being made on this particular part of it, which
is the parking ride, which is I guess what's in question here. What I want to
discuss with the Commission, if you'll allow me, is simply how the Miami
International Boat Show can be more involved with the City and give you what
you are looking for as far as... because we are a service, I'd like to know
what we might be able to do for the City, because obviously something went
wrong with our agreement as far as the...
Mayor Suarez: You can do that individually with the Commissioners. What's
the issue before us?
Commissioner Plummer: Mr. Mayor, the issue is, they want part of the profits
of using Watson Island for parking and I said we're entitled to all of the
profit and that's what this Commission voted. That's I wondered why it's back
here.
Mayor Suarez: Did you request in writing to be heard?
Mr. Odio: He requested in writing to be heard again.
Mr. Yanis: That we rediscuss it, yes, sir.
Commissioner Plummer: You want to give us a flat fee?
Mr. Yanis: I'd be happy to have the...
Commissioner Plummer: Well, what's the flat fee?
Mr. Yanis: It hasn't been negotiated.
Commissioner Plummer: Where's Rotor Ruder?
Mayor Suarez: Yes, if we get a guarantee, then we have less risk and you take
the risk that you won't generate enough and then you are able to keep the
profits beyond that. That's another interesting...
Commissioner Plummer: That's fine, I'll take minimum guarantee.
Mr. Yanis: We'd be willing to do that and take the burden off of the City and
just run the thing ourselves.
Commissioner Plummer: It's no burden.
Mayor Suarez: I am sure you would, depending on the amount. Let's see if we
can figure out the amount. If the minimum was a dollar you would do it for
sure.
Commissioner Plummer: Al, last year we got it for... they are talking about
giving us a flat fee instead of per car.
Mr. Alberto Ruder: Well, the way the deal was last year was just, a boat show,
right?
Commissioner Plummer: Right.
Mr. Ruder: After the gross revenues came in from the tickets, they received
one third and then we received...
Mayor Suarez: What did we net last year, Al, is what we are trying to get
at?
Mr. Ruder: Last year the City netted $7,000. The gross was $20,437. They
received about $6,800 and kept $7,000 because we had to pay the expenses.
Commissioner Plummer: How about $15,000?
Mr. Yanis: I guess that's what you are looking at this year, isn't it?
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January 25, 1990
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Commissioner Plummer; A flat fee.
Mr. Yanis: I guess I didn't realize this was a negotiating session, but...
Commissioner Plummer: I'll make a motion at this time we take a flat fee of
$15,000 or 100 percent and give them the option.
Mr. Yanis: It's acceptable to us.
Commissioner Plummer: Excuse me?
Mr. Yanis: It is acceptable as a minimum guarantee.
Commissioner Plummer: OK, that's fine.
Mr. Ruder: OK, then the expenses...
Commissioner Plummer: Of course, the expenses are theirs, the security is
theirs the indemnifying of the City against liability is theirs and we take a
flat fee of $15,000.
Mr. Yanis: Al, we'll work out the details?
Commissioner Plummer: Yes, the details, very simple, bring us a check!
Mayor Suarez: It sounds like it's pretty detailed already. All right, so
moved.
Commissioner Alonso: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Any discussion? Please call the roll.
Mr. Yanis: I did want to make a...
Mayor Suarez: Wait.
Commissioner Plummer: You want to up the minimum?
Mr. Yanis: I wanted a discussion on a different item. I don't know if this
is the proper procedure for that or not.
Mayor Suarez: On a different item?
Mr. Yanis: Yes, sir.
Mayor Suarez: Related to this?
Mr. Yanis: Related to the boat show. Not related to this.
Mr. Plummer: You'd better get this one passed first.
Mayor Suarez: All right, let's go ahead and complete the roll call.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved
its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 90-70
A RESOLUTION AMENDING RESOLUTION NO. 89-951, ADOPTED
OCTOBER 12, 1989, CONCERNING THE USE OF WATSON ISLAND
AS A "PARK AND RIDE" LOCATION FOR THE MIAMI
INTERNATIONAL BOAT SHOW TO BE PRESENTED BY THE
NATIONAL MARINE MANUFACTURERS ASSOCIATION, INC. (NMMA)
DURING THE PERIOD FEBRUARY 15 - 21, 1990, BY PROVIDING
ALTERNATIVE USE FEES, TERMS AND CONDITIONS, INCLUDING
PROVISION FOR A $15,000 MINIMUM USE FEE, WHICH MAY BE
SELECTED AT NMMA'S OPTION, FOR PLACEMENT IN THE USE
AGREEMENT.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
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Upon being seconded by Commissioner Alonso, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Victor De Yurre
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner Miriam Alonso
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: 'Vice Mayor Miller J. Dawkins
Mayor Suarez: You seem to be having a good day. Go ahead for another one.
Why would we take up any other items?
Mr. Yanis: In order to promote the park and ride. We have asked the City and
then of course, the boat show, no question about that., to place banners on
the typical locations for events, which would be the Rickenbacker flyover and
the police along I-95 and that we were turned down, and because basically the
statement that was made by Public Works was that it was not a City event and
we'd like to... we are in the City and obviously we are willing to negotiate
this arrangement and we'd like to be able to put those banners up, that's all.
Mr. Plummer: Well, we have ten banner locations, right?
Mr. Ruder: I think approximately, yes.
Commissioner Plummer: Why can't we give them two to promote the parking lot,
since it's to our benefit.
Commissioner Plummer: I'll maize a motion that we give them two of the banner
locations for a period of ten days, the banners at their expense, placing them
up and taking them down at their expense.
Mayor Suarez: So moved.
Commissioner Alonso: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Call the roll.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved its
adoption:
MOTION NO. 90-71
A MOTION GRANTING REQUEST RECEIVED FROM
REPRESENTATIVES OF THE NATIONAL MARINE MANUFACTURERS
ASSOCIATION FOR TWO OF THE 10 BANNER LOCATIONS OF THE
CITY OF MIAMI FOR A PERIOD OF TEN DAYS, FOR PURPOSES
OF PROMOTING ITS "PARK AND RIDE SERVICE" ON WATSON
ISLAND IN CONNECTION WITH THE MIAMI INTERNATIONAL BOAT
SHOW; FURTHER STIPULATING THAT SAID GROUP SHALL BEAR
ALL RELATED COSTS AND EXPENSES CONCERNING PLACEMENT
AND DISMANTLING OF SAID BANNERS.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Alonso, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Victor De Yurre
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner Miriam Alonso
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Vice Mayor Miller J. Dawkins
Mayor Suarez: I gather that we're setting policy that we don't mind those
banners being place for certain private events and I hope that each time it
doesn't have to come to the Commission. Mr. Manager, you could use your
discretion. Don't be too inflexible about that.
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6. BRIEF DISCUSSION WITH CITY MANAGER CONCERNING PROPOSED ADVERTISING FOR
THE POSITION OF EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE MIAMI SPORTS AND EXHIBITION
AUTHORITY - DIRECT LOCAL ADVERTISING ONLY.
Mr. De Yurre: Mr. Mayor, if I may, I'd like to hear from the City Manager.
What's the status on the director's position as far as advertising at the
Sports & Exhibition Authority?
Mr. Odio: It will be advertised, sir. I believe we going to start
advertising today...
Commissioner Plummer: Can I ask a question?
Mr. Odio: ... in the Wall Street Journal and the...
Commissioner Plummer: What is a 401K plan?
Mr. Odio: I'll send you a copy. You're reading from the...
Commissioner Plummer: I'm reading from what is the draft of the proposed ad.
Mr. Odio: Yes, I hope yours is changed because it said that you have five
days to reply and that's the first conversation by the way, but...
Commissioner Plummer: What is the 401K?
Mr. Fernandez: A deferred compensation plan and for government employees who
would be the same thing as a portable pension.
Mr. Odio: It's a portable pension. That is...
Commissioner Plummer: A portable pension?
Mr. Odio: That is very important in this business, believe it or not. But
that advertisement you have in your hand can change, I believe you asked up
five days to reply. That's not acceptable I told them to change it to 30 days
and advertise it today. You should have the advertisement.
Commissioner Alonso: And I have a question. What are we going to do with the
position once Mr. Blaisdell leaves, I understand the 9th.
Mr. Odio: He leaves on the 9th and that's no problem. I will be running the
Authority. They know who they have to report to.
Commissioner De Yurre: Well, but the thing is that I thought... my feeling is
that there was an emergency to a degree and since I wanted Blaisdell to be
around that as the on -hand day to day knowledge of running the business, that
he would be able to come, you know, the new director would be able to sit with
him at least for a week or so where he can break him in and show him a number
of things that I'm sure you are not privy to because you're not there every
day and...
Mr. Odio: I can handle that. I can handle that.
Commissioner De Yurre: And I also would like to see, because just like we did
with... and I think it's our policy that, and I don't know how the rest of the
Commission feels, but you know, I would like, certainly, that when we find
qualified people that we go to local people first, as opposed to, you know
getting... you know, and I have a bad ... Kirkland left me with a bad taste in
my mouth, you know, coming into town and touted as the top gun in the business
and then just leaving after about a year and one-half or two years...
Commissioner Alonso: Let me go further on this. Are we doing a national
search on this?
Mayor Suarez: No, we are just advertising. We're just advertising.
Mr. Odio: We were... are going to advertise.
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Commissioner Alonso: But you mean we are going to keep this local, aren't we?
Mr. Odio: It's up to... let me clarify something, because you are asking me
the questions that...
Mayor Suarez: Wait, wait, Mr. Manager, we're not contradictory, the fact that
we advertised. If. you were to get an application from someone, say in
Orlando, or anyplace, for that matter, you wouldn't reject that just because
they are not from this area, but I don't think we're going to a national
search here when we have all kinds of people...
Commissioner Alonso: I hope not.
Mayor Suarez: ... locally that can...
Mr. Odio: We're not, but, I am not going to make the decision. As I
understand the new ordinance, is the board that is appointed over there is
going to make the derision. I thought it was your decision to make up to this
point, up to the minute we are discussing this, it is your responsibility to
make the appointment, isn't it?
Mr. Odio: No, it isn't, Commissioner. The way I understood it was that I
was to prepare the advertising, I was to review the operation of the Authority
and I have a recommendation prepared for you on what I think the size and the
budget should be already.
Commissioner Plummer: Where is it?
Commissioner Alonso: My...
Mr. Odio: But it wasn't due today, Commissioner. I have it ready for the
7th.
Commissioner Alonso: I want a legal opinion on this. It is the
responsibility of the City Manager. It is the responsibility, of the
Authority, it is...
Mayor Suarez: Well, yes it is clear that until the new ordinance goes into
effect, if...
Mr. Odio: Well, wait, right now it's mine.
Commissioner Alonso: Today, what is it?
Mr. Odio: Today it is mine.
Commissioner Alonso: Fine and dandy. And then tomorrow?
Mr. Odio: When you pass the ordinance that is proposed, it will be the
Authority that will select the...
Commissioner Alonso: Are we talking future or present?
Mr. Odio: Now it's my authority. After the 7th or whenever the ordinance
passes, it won't be my responsibility.
Commissioner Alonso: And what if does not passed?
Mr. Odio: Then it will be mine and I will select whoever I think, or not
select anybody.
Mayor Suarez: And in the meantime you're saying you can function yourself in
the capacity, OK.
Commissioner Alonso: OK, I want to go back to this, because it is very
frightening to me, the idea of this national search. Whenever it sounds like
that, we are sending a message we don't have local people and I cannot agree
and I want this to be part of the record and I want to make it very clear I
want to emphasize and I hope the rest of the Commission feels as strongly as
I do, I think that we have tremendous talent in Miami. I think that we have
it in the City of Miami. I can even go and say fine, Dade County is fine, but
14 January 25, 1990
If we send a message and say we don't have qualified people in Miami, and to
appoint people to represent us in such an important department, executive
director that has to sell the image of Miami, someone who is committed here,
someone that will not fly away when he or she is offered a better job and do
not have roots in Miami, I don't like that. I think that we have fine people
in Miami, highly qualified, and I want to make very clear today my position
and I will not agree on a national search until I'm given proof that we don't
have one qualified person in Miami, in Dade County that can take the job and
then I have to say it will be the saddest day of my life, because I will be
accepting that we don't have qualified people in Miami, so please, let's be
sure that we keep this at the local level and don't fly away to advertise and
say, we want people from outside Miami because we know the story and I'm going
quote names Mr. George Gerlin, a fine individual, highly qualified, but he did
not have roots in Miami. I feel very strongly about the position of Merrett
Stierheim, because I feel that he has roots in Miami. He belongs here in this
town, he cares about us and that's very important to me, but whenever we get
people that do not care the same way about Miami, I get very paranoid and I
hope that this Commission feels exactly the same way I do.
Mayor Suarez: To logistically accomplish that, Mr. Manager, because you are
saying that we are not going on a national search. Why are we advertising in
the Wall Street Journal?
Mr. Odio: Well, professionals read Wall Street Journal. We wanted to make
sure we reach every professional. Now, if you want to save the money...
Mayor Suarez: Wait, wait, to be specific, why don't we agree not to advertise
in the Wall Street Journal, to advertise in the local newspaper and be done
with it.
Commissioner Alonso: Exactly.
Mr. Odio: Fine.
Mayor Suarez: Thank youl
Commissioner De Yurre: What was the cost of the Wall Street Journa17
Mr. Odio: $4,000 a piece.
Commissioner Alonso: Imaginal Let's give it to an institution that needs our
help. Let's give it to a park. Let's give it to something useful at the
local level.
Mayor Suarez: I entertain a motion that the advertising be locally only.
Commissioner De Yurre: Moved.
Mr. Odio: Fine. It will be done.
Mayor Suarez: Moved. Why don't we go ahead and vote on it, Commissioner, to
be sure.
Commissioner Alonso: Yes, second.
Mayor Suarez: Seconded. Any discussion? If not, please call the roll.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner De Yurre, who moved its
adoption:
MOTION NO. 90-72
A MOTION DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO ONLY ADVERTISE
LOCALLY CONCERNING PRESENT VACANT POSITION OF DIRECTOR
OF THE CITY OF MIAMI SPORTS AND EXHIBITION AUTHORITY.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Alonso, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote:
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AYES: Commissioner Victor De Yurre
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner Miriam Alonso
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Vice Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner De Yurre: Do we make another motion now to say that instructing
whoever is going to be in the decision making process to give priority to Dade
Countians7
Mr. Odio: I want to clarify that, because by the time the advertising.., it
takes 30 days to get resumes.
Commissioner De Yurre: Well, I mean, as far as the ads. Whatever
applications come in, we just...
Mayor Suarez: I don't know that we have to do it, because we could just relay
this particular discussion where I think the consensus is clearly to choose
somebody locally if at all possible.
Commissioner Plummer: Well, that's not fair, Mr. Mayor. It's not fair to
someone who applies from out of Dade County.
Mayor Suarez: Yes, that's why I wouldn't want the...
Commissioner Plummer: And I think you ought to put it in there that a local
Dade County person has an advantage, whatever terminology that you want, but
I think it's unfair that someone from Broward County were to apply, not
knowing that there is an edge for a local person. I think that should be
included.
Mayor Suarez: If that's what you want to do.
Commissioner De Yurre: That's fine.
Mayor Suarez: All right, let's put it in those terms. If we are not getting
into the issue of evaluation points or you know, how the criteria wili be
applied, just a general statement that we're basically looking for somebody
local if at all possible.
Commissioner Alonso: Also I have another comment. I just hope that we keep
this in a very healthy way, we do it as fast as possible. I recall that when
the attorney for the City of Miami was selected, it was done in a very
effective way by this Commission and I recall that everyone in the City of
Miami was happy to see that happening, because sometimes when we...
Mayor Suarez: The City Manager too.
Commissioner Alonso: When we go to replace an individual and we go in such a
tremendous search and it's not any better, so I just hope we do it in a
healthy way, in an effective way and we don't make such a big issue out of
that.
Commissioner Plummer: But look what we got! Same comment.
Commissioner Alonso: That's not I think both of them are fine
individuals, so I think we are very proud of them.
Mayor Suarez: I get a big kick out of Commissions that go on national
searches because the implication really is that out of 2,000,000 people there
is no one qualified to do the job in Dade County.
Commissioner Alonso: I don't want to send that message.
Commissioner Plummer: Mr. Mayor...
Mayor Suarez: It's so ridiculous, But I wouldn't want to exclude anybody from
Broward or any other place.
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Commissioner Plummer: I'm just going to make a comment for the record. Mr.
Manager, I am still concerned about the Sports Authority to this extent. The
basis of this thing originally was for the exhibition. I don't find anywhere
in this criteria a person who has some kind of background in exhibition. Now,
that tells me that the thrust of this Authority was not what was originally
planned, nor is there really any emphasis. God knows this community needs an
exhibition center if we are going to continue it to be a tourist center. It
is very important, and I'm not saying exclude... exclude anyone who has the
sports in mind, or some thrust of sports, but I really don't find anything in
this description that puts any kind of emphasis on the second phase, or to me,
the next phase and the important phase, and that's the exhibition center.
Mayor Suarez: It should have been in there. What...
Mr. Odio: If you read it, it says that development of facilities for... read
it, Commissioner.
Commissioner Plummer: It doesn't really... look, in the same way that you
need a CEO to operate a sports authority, you need the same kind of knowledge
in the individual who has some knowledge about exhibition centers. Now, you
can say OK, we're going to be very bland and we're going to say an
administrator, but let me tell you, the operation of an exhibition center is a
specialty item and I would hope that we would try and find someone that has
the blend of both, the operation of a Sports Authority and/or exhibition
center. I don't find that. You talk about international sports at this
criteria. You talk about other things, but you don't give to me any emphasis
about exhibition centers.
Mr. Odio: Well, you can change the language anyway you want to.
Commissioner Plummer: Well, I don't want to change the language. I just hope
you would incorporate something in this here to say just exactly what the
title is, sports and exhibition.
Mayor Suarez: Expand a little bit on the fact that we have set for a priority
the creation of an exhibit facility and actually have already done the
principal sports facility that was envisioned, which was basketball. Now,
that is perhaps the clear next priority, although major league baseball, as a
promotional thing also is important. Any problems with that? OK.
Commissioner Plummer: Fine.
Mayor Suarez: We'll leave the wording up to you. Do you need that in the
form of a motion? If not, we will get back to your item. I guess you've got
an agreement on the legal logistics of...
Commissioner De Yurre: Do we need a motion on this now on the localizing of
the selection process?
Mayor Suarez: You had made a suggestion to that effect, Commissioner Plummer.
Was that voted on, Madam City Clerk?
Ms. Hirai: No, sir.
Mayor Suarez: OK.
Ms. Hirai: That Dade County residents be given preference.
Mayor Suarez: You wanted to have that in the form of a...
Commissioner Plummer: I don't think it's necessary. Just ask him to include
it, that's all.
Mayor Suarez: OK.
Mr. Fernandez: We understand your instructions and what you have told us, we
don't need you to take a vote on, we take that as direction. We'll make sure
that we reflect the local preference...
Mayor Suarez: All right.
Mr. Fernandez: ... and everything else you have mentioned.
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Mayor Suarez: And that we expand on the exhibit facility aspect of the job?
7. (Continued discussion) DISCUSS AND TABLE PROPOSED RESOLUTION TO AMEND
THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT AND CONTRACT BY AND BETWEEN CITY OF MIAMI,
METROPOLITAN DADE COUNTY, MIAMI BEACH AND VILLAGE OF BAL HARBOUR AND THE
GREATER MIAMI CONVENTION AND VISITORS BUREAU, INC. (See labels 4 and
11).
Mayor Suarez: Now, Merrett, we've got a deal, understanding? Do we need to
take a vote on it?
Mr. Fernandez: Yes, you do at this time.
Mayor Suarez: Oh, we haven't voted on the initial thing, OK. What do you
want to put on the record as to what the modifi...
Mr. Fernandez: What we have agreed to do is on the title page of the
agreement itself, that says the 1989-1990 interlocal agreement between Dade
County, City of Miami Beach, City of Miami, we will put an asterisk on the
upper right hand corner of the City of Miami, very visibly. Keep in mind this
Is a front page to the entire agreement and the title continues, and the
Village of Bal Harbour and contract with Greater Miami Conventions and
Visitors Bureau, then we will footnote at the bottom of the front page of that
agreement the following language, related to the asterik "The amount of resort
tax revenues collected within the City of Miami is $2,688,000," and we believe
that this clearly conveys a message to anyone that reads that contract, that
has occasion to look at it, that the City of Miami is receiving due
recognition.
Commissioner Plummer: I don't agree, OK? And let me tell you why I don't
agree. I think to put a number there, is either, as I always dealt with TDC
is either projected or hoped or maybe. I think putting the percentage there is
reality and I think that is what I think should be there, rather than a dollar
figure.
Mr. Fernandez: We can further go on and then put in parenthesis right next to
the $2,600,000, "This comprises 47 percent of the total."
Commissioner Plummer: OK, but is that last year's figure, or projected this
year?
Mr. Merrett Stierheim: That's the last year's figure, the last year's...
Commissioner Plummer: But that's actual dollars collected?
Mr. Stierheim: Actual dollars, yea, sir.
Mr. Stierheim: And whatever the percentage is, I have no problem with putting
that on there.
Commissioner Alonso: That's the fiscal year.
Commissioner Plummer: Yes, that's fine. That's fine.
Mr. Stierheim: Mr. Mayor, I want to tell you something. I'm going to supply
you with a complete accounting of every dollar collected, every fee retained,
and how much money directly comes to the bureau. It will be laid out
specifically.
Mayor Suarez: Tell us the model car you are driving and all of that too,
although I saw it.
Mr. Stierheim: I haven't got one yet..
Mayor Suarez: Tell us the model car you are driving and all of that too.
Mr. Stierheim: I'm still driving a tennis vehicle, sir.
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Mayor Suarez: Although I'll tell you, I saw the one you were driving
yesterday.
Commissioner Alonso: You are not planning on a honeymoon, are you?
Mr. Stierheim: Yes, I am.
Mayor Suarez: Honeymoons you take, any of that stuff.. We have a motion and a
second, with all those modifications, do we?
Commissioner Plummer: Mr. Mayor, let me state for the record, we have had
more information this morning out of Merrett Stierheim in five minutes than
we've had in the past three years.
Mayor Suarez: He did it in a forthright way too, as opposed to extracting it,
like pulling teeth. Yes, sir.
NOTE FOR THE RECORD: AT THIS POINT THE CI`rY COMMISSION
MOMENTARILY TABLES CONSIDERATION OF THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT TO
RECOGNIZE MR. GEORGE MARTINEZ IN A FUNDING REQUEST.
8. DIRECT CITY MANAGER TO REFER PROPOSAL FROM GEORGE MARTINEZ, CHAMBER OF
TOURISTS OF AMERICA, INC., TO THE GREATER MIAMI CONVENTION AND VISITORS
BUREAU, INC. FOR CONSIDERATION OF THEIR REQUEST.
Mr. George Martinez: Mr. Mayor, I want to say something. My name is George
Martinez.
Commissioner Plummer: In reference to this, sir?
Mr. Martinez: Yes.
Commissioner Plummer: Oh.
Mr. Martinez: I'm a member of the Chamber. of Tourist of America Inc. a
minority and non --profit organization.
Commissioner Plummer: What? Excuse me, I'm sorry, a member of...?
Mr. Martinez: Chamber of Tourists of The Amei:can Incorporated, which since
1978 we are promoting the City of Miami and we feel like a minority
corporation, which you are entitled to represent the City of Miami and promote
the business in Latin America. I've given a letter, the president of the
company is giving a letter to everybody as a minority corporation. We have
the past experience that nothing has been done by the Miami Convention Bureau
in the past and we feel that we are entitled, as a minority corporation to
promote Latin America and require $200,000 to promote this matter.
Mayor Suarez: OK, first of all, you are not promoting Latin America, you're
promoting Miami in Latin America.
Mr. Martinez: Well, Miami in Latin America, that's what I say.
Mayor Suarez: OK.
Mr. Martinez: Chamber of Tourists Incorporated. You know, because I had to
meet you in the past that the Latin America... Miami Latin America, you even
said before when you went to Hong Kong, you said in a brochure over there, I
think even in the United States mail system even, it's a competition. I think
this is like a monopoly that nobody has a chance, not even a minority group
has a chance here to represent the City of Miami and to put in the competition
with anybody. You gust came up from Hong Kong and you said it. I think we
deserve a shot too, to put it in plain simple English.
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Commissioner Plummer: Wouldn't you
Convention Bureau for that?
Mr. Martinez: No, air.
Mayor Suarez: OK, at this point in the proceedings, the beat we can do in
regards to this item, is to refer to the agency for consideration of your
publicity program. You obviously can get, you know, a hearing before us to
see if we want to take any action directly through City of Miami, but I'd have
no problem entertaining a motion that this be referred with a recommendation
of that the Authority, the agency, with its new executive director consider
your application. They ought to be looking at advertising throughout the -_
world, including of course, Latin American and in doing so, if they don't have
the capability to do it in house, to do it through consultants and I have the
feeling that they don't have the capability in house, maybe they do. OK? -
Commissioner Plummer: I'll offer a motion this by referred to...
Mr. Martinez: Can I say something, Mayor?
Mayor Suarez: Well., I can't imagine that it would change from that, but let's
go ahead and take the motion the Commissioner is making and vote on it. Is
that the way you were phrasing the motion, as I stated it more or less, J.L.?
Commissioner Plummer: The motion to be to...
Mr. Martinez: No, but I want to say something, you want don't want.
Mayor Suarez: Wait, wait. Do we have a second on that motion? Second. Call
the roll on the motion.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved its
adoption:
MOTION NO. 90-73
A MOTION OF THE CITY OF MIAMI COMMISSION REFERRING
PROPOSAL FROM MR. GEORGE MARTINEZ, OF THE CHAMBER OF
TOURISTS OF AMERICA INC., TO THE GREATER MIAMI
CONVENTION AND VISITORS BUREAU, INC., WITH A
RECOMMENDATION THAT THEIR REQUEST BE CONSIDERED.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner De Yurre, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Victor De Yurre
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner Miriam Alonso
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Vice Mayor Miller J. Dawkins
Mayor Suarez: What you have really is to go before the agency and make your
presentation to them. Obviously, we're referring it to them. They are the
ones that have to take action on it, but they better come up with some kind of
an ad campaign, including Latin America, of course.
Mr. Martinez: Well, a minority nonprofit corporation should be included too.
Mayor Suarez: Yes, whatever...
Mr. Martinez: Let me say something that's off the record. I have the
experienced person.
Mayor Suarez: No, everything here is on the record.
Mr. Martinez: OK. I'm sorry, because you know...
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Mayor Suarez: Occasionally we strike things from the record, or we wiah we
could, but...
Mr. Martinez: I'm sorry, because it is not against you. I'm not a Yale or
Harvard graduate. I learned my English right here in the City of Miami and
have personal experience, personal experience, I had a meeting with Mr.
Kirkland, the mayor of the City where I lived for 31 years, take me personal
to Kirkland. I even presented an idea that would help Dade County. I wait
six months for an answer, I never had an answer. But I see in the City I live
for 31 years, I really see that a particular hotel was very well promoted and
the convention, but they're mom and pop businesses, mom and pop, the little
hotels, even the City of Miami, the little hotels, you don't see tourists over
here. I traveled in Latin America for 20 years. I know from the Mexican
border to the Valparaiso, Chile and I know one thing, ten years ago, for
example, to pick it up, the City of Miami Beach and the City of Miami was
taken for granted. Now we have to go and sell it, we had to go and really
sell it. Thank you very much. I'm sorry. Thank you Mrs. Alonso, you did
very well. Keep on that track.
Mayor Suarez: Did we call the roll on that item already, Madam City Clerk?
Ms. Hirai: Not on the prior one, Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Suarez: I'm sorry?
Ms. Hirai: On the one...
Mayor Suarez: Not on the referral?
Ms. Hirai: On this one, we finished.
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9. ACCEPT BID: FRANK J. MORAN, INC. - FOR REPLACEMENT OF A 183-CELL
SUPPLY TO CITY'S COMPUTER DEPARTMENT - FOR REHABILITATION OF ITS UPS
BATTERY BANK WHICH SUPPORTS POWER SUPPLY FOR THE PUBLIC SAFETY
COMMUNICATIONS SYSTEM - FOR DEPARTMENT OF G.S.A.
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Mr. Plummer: The Administration asks that they presented to you a resolution
to replace the batteries for the backup of the computers for $31,570. It is a
resolution, I so move.
Mayor Suarez: So moved.
Commissioner Plummer: You have a copy. It's important.
Commissioner De Yurre: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Seconded. Any discussion? If not, please call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved
its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 90-74
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BID OF FRANK J. MORAN, INC. j
FOR THE REPLACEMENT OF A 183-CELL SUPPLY TO THE CITY'S
COMPUTER AND TO REHABILITATE THE EXISTING 124-CELL UPS
BATTERY BANK WHICH SUPPORTS THE POWER SUPPLY FOR THE
_ PUBLIC SAFETY COMMUNICATION SYSTEM FOR THE DEPARTMENT
OF GENERAL SERVICES ADMINISTRATION AT A TOTAL PROPOSED
COST NOT TO EXCEED $31,570.000; ALLOCATING FUNDS
THEREFOR FROM THE 1989-90 OPERATING BUDGET;
AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO INSTRUCT THE CHIEF
PROCUREMENT OFFICER TO ISSUE A PURCHASE ORDER FOR THIS
SERVICE.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
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Upon being seconded by Commissioner De Yurre, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Victor De Yurre
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner Miriam Alonso
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Vice Mayor Miller J. Dawkins
10. PRESENTATIONS, PROCLAMATIONS AND SPECIAL ITEMS.
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Certifications of Appreciation presented to Lazaro Garrido, Reynaldo Villena,
Albert Villena, Oscar Ruiz and Francisco Guerra, members "Positive, Inc." who
won in their division in the "Hoop It Up" Basketball Tournament, December 1-3,
—� 1989.
_ 11. (Continued discussion) AUTHORIZE EXECUTION OF AMENDMENT TO INTERLOCAL
_ AGREEMENT AND CONTRACT BY AND BETWEEN CITY OF MIAMI, METROPOLITAN DADE
COUNTY, M.IAMI BEACH AND VILLAGE OF BAL HARBOUR AND THE GREATER MIA14I
CONVENTION AND VISITORS BUREAU, INC. (See labels 4 and 7).
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Ms. Hirai: Mr. Mayor, on the interlocal agreement, the addition that we're to
make as a footnote, we need a...
_ Mayor Suarez: We haven't voted on that.
Ms. Hirai: Yes, we have not voted on that.
Mayor Suarez: All right.
Commissioner Plummer: I moved it.
Commissioner De Yurre: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Seconded. Any discussion on that modification? If not, please
call the roll.
Mr. Fernandez: On both of the modification and the agreement itself.
Mayor Suarez: That on the agreement?
Ms. Hirai: Yes.
Mayor Suarez: The agreement as modified.
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The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved
its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 90-75
A RESOLUTION, WITH ATTACHMENT, AUTHORIZING THE CITY
MANAGER, ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF MIAMI AS A
PARTICIPATING PUBLIC AGENCY TOGETHER WITIi
METROPOLITAN DADE COUNTY, THE CITY OF MIAMI BEACH, AND
THE VILLAGE OF BAL HARBOUR, TO EXECUTE AN AMENDMENT TO
THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT AND CONTRACT, IN
SUBSTANTIALLY THE ATTACHED FORM, WITH THE GREATER
MIAMI CONVENTION AND VISITORS BUREAU, INC., UNDER
WHICH SAID BUREAU IS TO CARRY OUT CONVENTION
PROMOTIONS, BOOKING AND SALES ACTIVITIES ON BEHALF OF
THE PARTICIPATING PUBLIC AGENCIES, THE TERM OF SAID
AGREEMENT AND CONTRACT TO BE FOR A ONE-YEAR PERIOD,
WITH FUNDS THEREFOR BEING ALLOCATED IN AN AMOUNT NOT
TO EXCEED $100,000 FROM METRO-DADE TOURIST BED TAX
FUND MONIES.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner De Yurre, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Victor De Yurre
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner Miriam Alonso
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Vice Mayor Miller J. Dawkins
THEREUPON THE CITY COMMISSION WENT INTO RECESS AT 9:53
A.M. AND RECONVENED AT 3:06 P.M., WITH ALL MEMBERS OF
THE CITY COMMISSION FOUND TO BE PRESENT EXCEPT VICE
MAYOR DAWKINS.
12. RATIFY CITY MANAGER'S ACTION IN EXECUTING AGREEMENT WITH AMY H. JORDEN -
TO PROVIDE ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANCE TO THE MAYOR'S OFFICE.
Mayor Suarez: Commissioners, I plead with you to please approve an item that
was not before you. It has to do with the procedure for paying a former aide
of mine that cannot be paid as part of the regular payroll, but it's from my
budget. So moved and seconded. Any discussion? If not, please call the
roll.
Commissioner Plummer: I move it.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved
its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 90-76
A RESOLUTION, WITH ATTACHMENT, RATIFYING, APPROVING
AND CONFIRMING THE ACTIONS OF THE CITY MANAGER IN
ENTERING INTO A14 AGREEMENT, IN SUBSTANTIALLY THE
ATTACHED FORM, WITH AMY H. JORDEN, FOR THE PURPOSE OF
PROVIDING ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANCE TO THE MAYOR AT A
COST NOT TO EXCEED $6,000, WITH FUNDS THEREFOR
ALLOCATED FROM BUDGETED FUNDS OF THE. OFFICE OF THE
MAYOR.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
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Upon being seconded by Commissioner Alonso, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote:
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
Commissioner Victor De Yurre
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner Miriam Alonso
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
None.
Vice Mayor Miller J. Dawkins
NOTEi AT THIS POINT, THE CITY COMMISSION CLOSES CONSIDERATION OF
REGULAR ITEMS TO CONSIDER PLANNING AND ZONING AGENDA ITEMS.
13. FIRST READING ORDINANCE: AMEND ENVIRONMENTAL PRESERVATION DISTRICTS AND
SCENIC TRANSPORTATION CORRIDORS ATLAS OF THE CITY OF MIAMI - DESIGNATE
ALL PUBLIC RIGHTS OF WAY IN AREA GENERALLY KNOWN AS "THE BRICKELL
HAMMOCK PARKWAY SYSTEM" AS A SCENIC TRANSPORTATION CORRIDOR.
(Applicant: Planning Department.)
Mayor Suarez: PZ-1. I understand that Marty Fine needs to get going to
something important. It's PZ-2 right? What do we have on PZ-1?
Ms. Sarah Eaton: PZ-1. At the request of the City Commission and the
neighborhood, the Planning Department and Heritage Conservation Board have
recommended that the Brickell Hammock Parkway System be designated as a scenic
transportation corridor and the reason for this is the area does have a unique
landscape character as well as an extensive tree canopy and is of substantial
environmental importance to both residents and visitors.
Mayor Suarez: PZ-1. What is the actual impact, I mean, what does it do?
Ms. Eaton: It means that any...
Mayor Suarez: It sounds very nice, but what does it do?
Ms. Eaton: Any proposed tree removal would require the approval of the
Heritage Conservation Board and any proposed improvements to the rights -of -
way, including widening or other improvements would require review.
Commissioner Plummer: The Roads people came here and they also were
concerned... well, here they are. They were also concerned about the removal
of medians in the road, which they didn't want.
Ms. Eaton: Yes, any change to the right-of-way would require a hearing.
Commissioner Plumper: OK, but I mean, it goes on, just... it's not a little
simple thing. It was a long, drawn out of why they wanted the request. Mr.
Mayor, I'll move it.
Mayor Suarez: So moved.
Commissioner Alonso: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Seconded. Is the record reflect that Joe Wilkins is here on
behalf of the Roads Association, presumably in favor.
Commissioner Plummer: Move to deny.
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Mayor Suarez: Any discussion?
roll.
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
If not, please read the ordinance. Call the
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE ENVIRONMENTAL PRESERVATION
DISTRICTS AND SCENIC TRANSPORTATION CORRIDORS ATLAS OF
THE CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA, BY DESIGNATING, GENERALLY,
ALL PUBLIC RIGHTS -OF -WAY IN THE AREA FROM SOUTHWEST
1ST AVENUE TO SOUTHWEST 5TH AVENUE BETWEEN SOUTHWEST
23RD ROAD AND SOUTHWEST 27TH ROAD (A.K.A. "THE
BRICKELL HAMMOCK PARKWAY SYSTEM," AND MORE
PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED HEREIN), AS A SCENIC
TRANSPORTATION CORRIDOR; MAKING FINDINGS; MAKING ALL
NECESSARY CHANGES ON PAGES NO. 37 AND 36 OF SAID
ATLAS; CONTAINING A REPEALER PROVISION AND
SEVERABILITY CLAUSE; AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
Was introduced by Commissioner Plummer and seconded by Commissioner
Alonso and was passed on its first reading by title by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Victor De Yurre
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner Miriam Alonso
Vice Mayor Miller J. Dawkins
N'ayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Vice Mayor Miller J. Dawkins
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the publ'ic record and
announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commission and
to the public.
14. FIRST READING ORDINANCE: AMEND 9500, ARTICLE 15-SPI (SPECIAL PUBLIC
INTEREST DISTRICTS) - ADD SPI-21 RIVER QUADRANT MIXED USE DISTRICT -
PROVIDE INTENT AND SPECIAL PERMITS, ESTABLISH PERMISSIBLE PRINCIPAL USES
AND STRUCTURES, etc. (Applicant: Planning Department.)
Mayor Suarez: PZ-2, City of Miami Planning Department. Is this the river
project?
Ms. Joyce Meyers: Mr. Mayor, this is a recommended new special public
interest district, amendment to 9500. This district was conceived and
recommended in the downtown master plan. It is intended to...
Commissioner Plummer: Where is it? Can you put it up on th map?
Ms. Meyers: Can we get the map up, please? The area in yellow is what we are
proposing today in item 3 to apply it to, although the district is intended
eventually to be extended to what we call the entire river quadrant, what goes
as far east as Miami Avenue and I-95 on the north.
Commissioner Plummer: Does anyone here want to object to it?
Mayor Suarez: Is there anyone that wishes to be heard against this item? Let
the record reflect no one stepped forward.
Commissioner Plummer: Move it.
Mayor Suarez: Moved.
Commissioner Plummer: Do you want to speak to the item? For or against?
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Commissioner Plummer: Is that what's recommended?
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Mr. Rodriguez: No, the Planning Department recommends a different base, yes.
Commissioner Plummer: Well then, you better get up. I withdraw my motion at
this time.
Mr. Rodriguez: Maybe we should put on the record the recommendations from the
Planning Department and the difference between that and the Planning Board, so
it will be clear.
Mayor Suarez: Please do that and then before any testimony taken, we need to
get the witnesses sworn in, including attorneys.
Commissioner Plummer: Especially attorneys.
Ms. Meyers: I will address just the difference in the two recommendations
which has to do with the base floor area ratio, the starting point upon which
you build bonuses. Presently the floor area ratio on the property is 1.72.
The Planning Department's recommendation was to maintain the existing floor
area ratio as a base with an increase for mixed development of two or more
uses to 2.0 F.A.R. Above the 2.0 we have developed a system of bonuses which
allows the developer to achieve the intensity that he needs to get and it gets
for the City public objectives such as waterfront development, contributions
to the Affordable housing Trust Fund, building of a daycare center on the
property and a number of other items.
Mayor Suarez: And what is the...
Ms. Meyers: The Planning Advisory Board, at the request of the property owner
increased the base FAR from the 2.0 recommended by the Planning Department to
2.5. That in effect eliminates...
Commissioner Plummer: Plus the bonuses.
Ms. Meyers: Plus the bonuses. it eliminates what the Planning Department had
negotiated as what we would get in bonus contributions to Housing Trust Fund
or whatever.
Commissioner Plummer: Let me ask this. Knowing that property as well as I
do, why would try to hold down the FAR?
Mr. Rodriguez: We're not trying to hold down the total FAR. Actually we are
proposing a series of bonuses to go to 4.3.
Commissioner Plummer: Why would you even want to hold it to FAR of 4? That
is not residential, that is commercial. Across the street, would anybody
build anything next to a Florida Power and Light generating plant•? It's under
the expressway. What is the beauty that you're trying to preserve in that
neighborhood?
Mr. Rodriguez: Let me go back to the request. We worked very closely with
them, and because... let me try to finish.
Commissioner Plummer: I don't want to know about the applicant. I'm asking
to the area.
Mr. Rodriguez: Because when you look at the total area and because of the
definitions that we have in the ordinance, the actual... that's what they
were... they were trying to build in that piece of land 2,000,000 square feat
of development, which is a lot of...
Commissioner Plummer: What's wrong with that?
Mr. Rodriguez: We are supporting it. And, with the 4.3 FAR, they can build
that much. The problem is in how we're getting there.
Commissioner Plummer: Sergio, if r go across the street, what can I build?
Mr. Rodriguez: Across the street?
Commissioner Plummer: Across the avenue.
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Mr. Rodriguez: Nothing, because it's a substation.
Commissioner Plummer: We're going to miss you when you're gone and that ain't
going to be very damn long the way you're going. Across 2nd Avenue, what
would the zoning allow? What FAR?
Ms. Meyers: 1.72.
Mr. Rodriguez: Right now it's 1.72.
Commissioner Plummer: And you propose it to what?
Mr. Rodriguez: We're not touching that area.
Commissioner Plummer: And it's industrial.
Mr. Rodriguez: Fes. The issue here...
Mayor Suarez: Wait, wait. To go along with Commissioner Plummer, I just came
from Hong Kong. If this property was there, it would be... I'm going to raise
money from developers to send Sergio Rodriguez to Hong Kong. I want you to
see...
Mr. Rodriguez: I second.
Commissioner Plummer: One wayt
Mayor Suarez: The FAR would be 17.2. It would be ten times this FAR. In
fact, they put roughly what they are. They have a great mass transit system,
they have a vertical city. Everything we want to do with downtown, I fully
agree with J.L., why would you want to hold down the FAR. I have no idea and
I don't want to hear your answer, it's a rhetorical question. I know your
reasons and I don't agree with theta.
Commissioner Alonso: Well, let... I can't...
Mr. Rodriguez: Let me at least answer the questions that you asked me, right?
Mayor Suarez: I said it is a rhetorical question, but if you want to put an
answer on the record, go ahead.
Mr. Rodriguez: Let me give you a rhetorical answer, at least. The image of
Hong Kong is not the same because we don't have 10,000,000 people in
concentrated area like this. I wish we had.
Mayor Suarez: And the way we're going, you are discouraging people from
living downtown, working downtown, and having office buildings downtown.
Mt. Rodriguez: No, we would like them to be downtown and I think what we're
proposing to do is precisely give them the floor area ratio that they are
seeking. The problem... the difference that you are going to find between
their proposal and ours is that we believe that they're getting a tremendous
benefit in the increase in floor area ratio and we believe that they should
arrive to that increase in floor area ratio by giving something back to the
City, that's the only difference.
Commissioner Plummer: What are they giving back?
Mr. Rodriguez: Well, we're saying for example, as part of the bonus that we
are having the Housing Trust Fund of $6.67.
Commissioner Alonso: He has a nice list.
Commissioner Plummer: Fine.
Mr. Rodriguez: Well, they don't agree with that. The child care facility...
Commissioner Plummer: That they are going to do.
Mr. Rodriguez: They have a riverwalk...
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Commissioner Plummer: That they agreed to a long time ago, even further,
because...
Commissioner Alonso: Wait a minute, what about the day care center?
Commissioner Plummer: That's in there.
Commissioner Alonso: All right, you have said yes to 160 children?
Commissioner Plummer: Of course.
Commissioner Alonso: Yes. They are saying yes.
Commissioner Plummer: The riverwalk we got them to agree to before. What
else?
Mr. Rodriguez: No, but this riverwalk is beyond the property that it has to
do by obligation.
Commissioner Plummer: Well, they agreed to that. Remember, I made them,
forced them to do the Off -Street Parking Authority lot.
Mr. Rodriguez: Only for the portion which is facing the property. This will
get them to build part of the riverwalk, which is facing the substation, which
is not part of the same property.
Mayor Suarez: And they have agreed to that.
Commissioner Plummer: Well, there's no river over there. How► are you going
to have a riverwalk?
Mr. Rodriguez: Yes, you have a river.
Commissioner Plummer: On the substation? Oh, on the other side.
Mr. Rodriguez: Yes.
Commissioner Plummer: OK, I'm sorry.
Mr. Rodriguez: OK, in addition to that, we have a possible bonus for marina
wet slips so that could have a possible area, in front of the river walks so
they can dock over there. That's another possible bonus. We have in addition
to that a bonus just for having a mixed used development. If they have office
together with some retail, they get a bonus for that.
Commissioner Plummer: Fine.
Mr. Rodriguez: They get a bonus also for ground floor retail.
Commissioner Plummer: That's up to them.
Mr. Rodriguez: But they get a bonus for that. I mean, we're making it easier
for them to get a bonus. I mean, we believe that we have been working on all
of these possible ideas We also gave them a bonus if they have an underground
parking.
Commissioner Plummer: I'm not talking to the bonuses. The bonuses they can
apply for if they wart. I'm talking about the basic FAR.
Mr. Rodriguez: If you want to push it up...
Commissioner Plummer: What is Brickell:
most of Brickell, four?
Mr. Rodriguez: Two, no. We put 3.25.
Commissioner Plummer: What?
Mr. Rodriguez: 3.25.
Commissioner Plummer: 3.25.
What did we put into Brickell, in
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Mr. Rodriguez: Yes.
Commissioner Plummer: I don't want 2.5, OK? I'm saying to you that is
downtown. That is our base. I don't want 17.2, but damn, I don't want 2.5. I
want it higher.
INAUDIBLE COMMENTS NOT ENTERED INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD.
Commissioner Plummer: That's your problem.
Commissioner Alonso: Well, see...
Mayor Suarez: OK, does anyone wish to be heard against this? If not,
Commissioner Alonso.
Commissioner Alonso: Yes, the problem is this. If we increase the 2.5, they
will not have any obligation whatsoever with the City of Miami to do most of
the things that you have listed now.
Commissioner Plummer: Oh, you're wrong! You ever heard of a covenant?
Commissioner Alonso: Well, if...
Commissioner Plummer: You heard of a covenant?
Mr. Rodriguez: A covenant is voluntary.
Commissioner Alonso: If we make the decision here today and say, yes, go
ahead, and we don't work together to establish this and include it in our
motion that it will be part of the deal, then they can walk away and not do
any of those things. I'm certain they are willing to work with us and I'm
sure we're going to find an understanding and they are going to tell us ,right
now how they are going to be working with us, the daycare, the parks, and find
an agreement on this and we will be able to have it both ways. They will have
the building that they want, we will have it in the area that I think it is
fine. We have to develop that area. I am all for it. The taxes that will
come to the City, we will love them. All of this will be fine but they are
also getting a lot by the decision that we make here today, so maybe we can
find an understanding and I'm sure these fine gentlemen will come to the
podium and tell us that they are willing to go along with us and we'll have
it... we'll be able to make a decision right now.
Commissioner Plummer: I agree with everything, but when you said fine
gentlemen, you lost me!
Commissioner Plummer: Tell us what you're going to volunteer.
Mayor Suarez: Let me just clarify something in relation to Commissioner
Alonso's remarks. Would not have to come back to us as in a major use special.
permit application at some point?
Mr. Carter McDowell: That was exactly my point. My name is Carter McDowell
for the record.
Commissioner Plummer: Excuse me, for the record, Sergio, I think that the
problem we have here and I concur with Miriam that they've got to volunteer
what they want to do and I want to say for the record I'm willing to go to at
least three, OK? That's where I'm at, but I think the problem that we have is
we're doing an area beyond what these people are involved in and my concern is
that...
Commissioner Alonso: It is just that area where they will be building.
Commissioner Plummer: You are talking about under the expressway?
Mr. Rodriguez: It's in the area which is shown in yellow over there.
Commissioner Plummer: I understand that but they don't own that entire area.
Mr. Rodriguez: Yes, they do.
Commissioner Plummer: fJo, they don't. Part of it is under the expressway.
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Commissioner Alonso: No, I believe they own that.
Commissioner Plummer: No, they don't.
Commissioner Alonso: Do you?
Mr. McDowell: We obviously don't own under I-95. We own all but one...
— Commissioner Plummer: Nor do you own the northern lot.
Mr. McDowell: We do own the majority of that northern lot. There is one out
parcel on the corner.
Commissioner Alonso: The section of the parking, it's the only part.
Commissioner Plummer: OK, but point I was trying to make was, that it applies
to this parcel. That if anybody else wants to do likewise, they've got to
come in and do the same volunteering, so I don't want to have the wool pulled
over our eyes that we did X and that was for everybody because everybody might
not want to volunteer so that's where we've got to be careful.
Mr. Rodriguez: And that's what I think that if you have an ordinance,
everybody will follow the same rule. I agree.
Commissioner Plummer: But in an ordinance you cannot make them volunteer.
Mr. Rodriguez: Of course not, that's our requirement. To get the floor area
ratio, they will have to do it and everybody will be treated the same way. I
agree with your argument 100 percent.
Mayor Suarez: And he doesn't want to promulgate because he's been resisting
it for four years, a linkage ordinance, a nice, simple linkage ordinance that
says will increase your FAR if, you make a contribution to a fund for
affordable housing, something that other communities have. He wants to do it
with overlay districts and bonuses, every possible complicated... what are
those other things you are talking about now? - transferable use rates, etc.,
etc., so that we understand even less of the zoning code that we're working
-===2 with?
Mr. Rodriguez: Mr. Mayor, if you, as part of this mention...
Commissioner Alonso: It is complicated.
Mayor Suarez: That's what happens when the experts get a hold of government.
Mr. Rodriguez: Mr. Mayor, as one of the items that I included, that I listed,
was linkage. I don't know if I was clear on that or not. One of the items
that we have, we have two items which are linkages. One is the Housing Trust
- Fund, included as part of the deal that we are proposing in the Zoning
Ordinance and the other one was the child care. Actually, when you look at
each one of those bonuses, they are each one of them linkages.
Mayor Suarez: Yes, they are linkages, but you are effecting it in the most
complicated possible Byzantine way I've ever seen. Anyhow, Commissioner
Alonso, I'm about giving up...
Mr. Martin Fine: Mr. Mayor, if may just respond. For the record, my name is
Martin Fine. Carter McDowell, has really done all of the work on this and I
want to try to be brief and try help move it along.
Mayor Suarez: Marty, we've going to have to, if we are going to take
testimony or if we are going to take even your presentation, we're going to
have to swear you in. Some ordinance that some of my fellow Commissioner
wanted passed, I didn't want it to apply to attorneys, but, applied to change
that to my left over here. Madam City Clerk, would you swear him in?
(AT THIS POINT THE CITY CLERK ADMINISTERED REQUIRED OATH UNDER ORDINANCE NO.
10511 TO THOSE PERSONS GIVING TESTIMONY ON THIS ISSUE.)
Mr. Fine: Very briefly, addressing Commissioner Alonso's concerns, that
company has been here before the City of Miami was chartered. It is not going
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to run away. Whatever it says it's going to do, it's going to do, it's going
to do. number two, this first building they want to build, they do not need
any special use permit and we come in for the second building, we're going to
need it. All those things that we said we were going to do, we'll do and do
beyond. Frankly, it would take too long, but I couldn't agree more with what
Commissioner Plummer and the Mayor said and I think all of you have said that
is, for this downtown site to be even 2.5, is absolutely in my opinion, a
limitation on future growth of this community, so we would ask you to pass
this today. We will also be pleased to speak with staff between now and the
next reading and we will come together and get this built. We are pleased and
proud to tell you that if all goes well today, and at the next reading, there
will be a permit taken out on the first phase of this building in April of
this year and I ask you to vote on it.
Commissioner Plummer: Well, I...
Mayor Suarez: That's good news. And that will be for how many square feet,
Marty, as long as...
Commissioner Plummer: ... will make the motion, Mr. Mayor, but I still would
like to increase it above the 2.5. I just think that it's...
Mayor Suarez: You want to do that in generic terms on first reading and we'll
get the specifics by the time we have second reading so that it won't be a
substantial change?
Commissioner Plummer: I'll move it at the 2.5, with the acceptance of a
voluntary covenant prior to the next meeting.
Commissioner Alonso: I second.
Mayor Suarez: So moved and seconded.
Commissioner Plummer: You know, I just... we've only got so much downtown.
We're locked by the river and we're blocked by...
Mayor Suarez: Let's clarify what you mean by a voluntary covenant.
Mr. Fine: Can I make a suggestion, J.L.? You know we're dealing in good
faith here. Please don't include the language voluntary covenant. Let us
discuss with the requirements are so we come back and review it with you.
Commissioner Plummer: That's fine.
Mr. Fine: Thank you.
Mayor Suarez: All right. No further discussion? Please read the ordinance.
Commissioner Plummer: As you know, don't come back without the little piece
of paper.
Mayor Suarez: There will be procedurally a moment in which we can require all
of those, which is the major use special permit.
Commissioner Plummer: No, it's called denial.
Mayor Suarez: Right.
Commissioner Alonso: Yes, I really feel that we definitely need the
development in that area. It's a very important area of Miami and we are more
than willing to work with you to make it a reality, but also there are things
that the City of Miami needs and I am sure you are going to work with us to
improve the area for the benefit of your building as well as the City.
Commissioner Plummer: Miriam, let me just say for the benefit of yourself,
since you weren't here, that you are looking at the man who single handedly in
this community brought about, the surcharge which has given this community a
tremendous amount of housing and affordable housing. That's why I trust this
man, because his heart's in the right place and he will do what he says he'll
do.
Commissioner Alonso: Great.
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Commissioner Plummer:
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I didn't say which man I was talking about.
Mayor Suarez: I see that Commissioner De Yurre and our accounting lawyer is
here. I think Fine Jacobson wins the battle with Greenberg-TTraurig four to
three unless I'm missing somebody.
Unidentified Speaker.: We're down here discussing Burger King.
Mayor Suarez: All right, read the ordinance.
Commissioner De Yurre: It's like $3,000 an hour here.
Mr. Fernandez: On first reading, as being modified, changing the FAR from 1.7
to 2.5.
Mayor Suarez: Call the roll.
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE NO. 9500, AS AMENDED,
THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA, BY
AMENDING ARTICLE 13-SPI, SPECIAL PUBLIC INTEREST
DISTRICTS, TO ADD NEW SECTIONS 15210 ET SEQ, SPI-21
RIVER QUADRANT MIXED USE DISTRICT; PROVIDING FOR
INTENT AND SPECIAL PERMITS, ESTABLISHING PERMISSIBLE
PRINCIPAL USES AND STRUCTURES; PERMISSIBLE ACCESSORY
USES AND STRUCTURES, MINIMUM LOT REQUIREMENTS, FLOOR
AREA LIMITATIONS AND MINIMUM OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS,
AND PROVIDING FOR VARIATIONS; ESTABLISHING HEIGHT
LIMITATIONS, OFFICE PARKING AND LOADING REQUIREMENTS,
AND LIMITATIONS ON SIGNS; CONTAINING A REPEALER
PROVISION AND A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE; AND PROVIDING AN
EFFECTIVE DATE.
Was introduced by Commissioner Plummer and seconded by Commissioner
Alonso and was passed on its first reading by title by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Victor De Yurre
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner Miriam Alonso
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Vice Mayor Miller J. Dawkins
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and
announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commission and
to the public.
Mayor Suarez: Yes, Carter, you wanted to clarify something?
Mr. McDowell: Just a clarification. That was moving the Planning Advisory
Board's recommendation to you?
Commissioner Plummer: Which hopefully will change at the neat meeting.
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15. FIRST READING ORDINANCE: AMEND ZONING ATLAS FROM WF-1/7 WATERFRONT
INDUSTRIAL AND CG-1/7 COMMERCIAL GENERAL TO SPI-21 RIVER QUADRANT MIXED
USE DISTRICT TO PROPERTY GENERALLY BOUNDED BY S.W. 2 AVENUE, THE MIAMI
RIVER, 1-95 RIGHT-OF-WAY, AND S.W. 2 STREET. (Applicant: Planning
Department.)
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Mayor Suarez: PZ-3, is that companion?
Commissioner Plummer: Move 3, it's a part of 2.
Mayor Suarez: So moved.
Commissioner Alonso: Second. —
Mayor Suarez: Seconded. Any discussion? If not, please read the ordinance.
Call the roll. -_
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED-
—
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE ZONING ATLAS OF ORDINANCE s
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NO. 9500, THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MIAMI,
FLORIDA, BY CHANGING THE ZONING CLASSIFICATION OF THE
PROPERTY GENERALLY BOUNDED BY S.W. SECOND AVENUE ON
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THE EAST, THE MIAMI RIVER ON THE SOUTH, I-95 RIGHT -OF-
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WAY ON THE WEST AND S.W. SECOND STREET ON THE NORTH
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(MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED HEREIN), FROM WF-1/7
WATERFRONT INDUSTRIAL AND CG-1/7 COMMERCIAL GENERAL TO _
SPI-21 RIVER QUADRANT MIXED USE DISTRICT; MAKING
FINDINGS; BY MAKING ALL NECESSARY CHANGES ON PAGE 36
OF SAID ZONING ATLAS; CONTAINING A REPEALER PROVISION
AND A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE: AND PROVIDING FOR AN
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EFFECTIVE DATE.
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Was introduced by Commissioner Plummer and seconded by Commissioner
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Alonso and was passed on its first reading by title by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Victor De Yurre =
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Commissioner. J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner Miriam Alonso
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
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NOES: None.
ABSENT: Vice Mayor Miller J. Dawkins
Mayor Suarez: I would be inclined to vote yes unless I find out that Richard
Weise did that skiing. =-
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Mayor Suarez: Oh, that's right, I overheard you say that, because anyone who
lives in Miami and goes skiing in the snow, I think ought to have their head
examined.
Unidentified Speaker: Thank you.
Mayor Suarez: Yes on that item.
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and
announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commiesion and
to the public.
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16. BRIEF COMMENTS WITH GUY SANCHEZ, OF FLORIDA POWER AND LIGHT, CONCERNING
LIGHTING PROBLEMS ACROSS FROM CITY HALL ON SOUTH BAYSHORE DRIVE.
Mr. Plummer: Oh, excuse me, Mr. Sanchez, come here. This is not for Plummer,
this is for the City. Can we get these lights turned on back out here in
front of City Hall on the street? They've been off for about six weeks. I
don't care whose rights. Bayshore Drive, right here in the front. It's been
very, very dark out there at night. Would you look into it? There was a
problem, supposedly because of the redoing of the auditorium.
Commissioner De Yurre: Is that in the form of a covenant that they have to
tender, or...?
Commissioner Plummer: A what?
Commissioner De Yurre: Is that a covenant that...
Commissioner Plummer: Yes, of course.
Mr. Guy Sanchez: I believe that in Dade County, but I'll try anyway, OK?
17. DISCUSS AND CONTINUE TO FEBRUARY 15TH APPEAL BY ARTURO G. CARABALLO TO
REVIEW ZONING BOARD'S APPROVAL OF AN APPEAL, WHICH REVERSED A DECISION
OF THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR ELIMINATING COOKING ON THE PREMISES AT 3328
S.W. 23 TERRACE - DIRECT AL CARDENAS, ESQ. TO TRY TO REACH SOME KIND OF
AGREEMENT WITH NEIGHBORS IN THE AREA.
Mayor Suarez: PZ-4. Arturo Caraballo is the appellant.
Mr. Arturo Caraballo: Mayor, Commissioners, my name is Arturo Caraballo and I
live at 3322 SW 23rd Terrace.
Mayor Suarez: Mr. Caraballo, may we get you sworn in, air, in addition to
counselor? Madam City Clerk, would you please swear him in? Raise your hand.
(AT THIS POINT THE CITY CLERK ADMINISTERED REQUIRED OATH UNDER ORDINANCE NO.
10511 TO THOSE PERSONS GIVING TESTIMONY ON THIS ISSUE.)
Mr. Caraballo: In order to start this, I'm going to try to make a very brief
round down what happened in this. At 3324, 26 and 28 SW 23rd Terrace, in
Miami is a strictly residential area. For years was operated there Coral
Gables Printing Service.
Mayor Suarez: Coral Gables Printing Service?
Mr. Caraballo: Service.
Mayor Suarez: And what is your address?
Mr. Caraballo: Next door, 3322 and they...
Commissioner Plummer: Can we have that on the map, please?
Mayor Suarez: Well, 33... OK, that's right. Your address is 3322 SW 23rd
Terrace.
Commissioner Plummer: What do you mean, you don't have it on the map?
Mayor Suarez: No overhead?
Commissioner Plummer: Well, tell me this, how many blocks south of Coral Way
is 23rd Terrace at this, four? OK, four blocks, three blocks or four blocks?
GK, and this about a block and a half off of 32nd Avenue. Would be down the
street from where Victor's Cafe is?
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Mr. Caraballo: Yes.
Commissioner Plummer: OK.
Mr. Caraballo: Yes, and in this particular street, the street runs from 32nd
to 34th Avenue. There is no 33 Avenue.
Commissioner Plummer: OK, I understand that.
Mayor Suarez: But it's not immediately behind Victor's Cafe, is it?
Commissioner Plummer: It would be west of it.
Commissioner Alonso: West?
Mr. Caraballo: Before that it was the Studio Restaurant.
Mayor Suarez: But there is at least one street, no, between...
Commissioner Plummer: Well no, there is no 33rd Avenue. First Avenue is
34th.
Mr. Casaballo: This is strictly residential. Everything is down, the setback
and everything. And there, operates a very small printing shop and there is a
so-called grandfather law, or nonconforming, you call it now, in accordance
with the current ordinance or regulation. In November, 1987, said printing
shop was totally dismantled, they moved away and in 1988 they appear in the
phone directory as located at 2921 Le Jeune Road. You can verify that.
Mayor Suarez: What was the name of it, as you are alleging? Under what name
in the phone book?
Mr. Casaballo: The same name.
Mayor Suarez: Which is what?
Mr. Casaballo: Coral Gables Printing Service. The electric fluid was cut
out in March of 1988. Everything was dismantled completely, after several
months of no consumption of electricity at all, therefore it was impossible
to operate the printing. I know exactly because I live next door and...
Mayor Suarez: OK, well assuming all that is correct, what does that have to
do with this application, which has to do, I think, with cooking, presumably
for a restaurant, is that what...
Mr. Casaballo: No, no, there is more than that.
Mayor Suarez: I'm sorry, what?
Mr. Al Cardenas: Catering service.
Mr. Casaballo: There is more than that.
Mayor Suarez: OK, the history that you are establishing is that they were a
nonconforming legal use as a printing shop somehow, at some paint, that went
from being that...
Mr. Caraballo: At some point they asked, I didn't... I am a third party, but
I have never been notified. 1 don't know right here in the law that is of
the United States. In every part of the world, a 'third party that can be
affected by the liaison between two different persons, has to be notified
because he is going to suffer whatever the decision is.
Mayor Suarez: OK, but you are here, so you obviously found out about it.
Mr. Caraballo: I'm here now, but the point is this. They asked for
permission class C and in order to change the use of the printing shop, but
they forget and they did not tell and you didn't find that the printing shop
was out of operation for than 180 days, consecutive days, therefore they lost
the grandfathered rights, or nonconforming rights, whatever you want. They
lost it and then in order to subsidized, they present Mr. Genuardi, the Zoning
Administration show.
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Mayor Suarez: I think the word he was trying to get at was to cure that, and
you tried to use a word in Spanish which is "subsanar" Go ahead, it doesn't
exist in English.
Mr. Caraballo: OK, the lawyer should be here, but he wasn't, so I am taking
my own defense. I could fail in English, but I would not fail in the facts.
Commissioner Alonso: You're doing very well.
Mr. Caraballo: The facts is that they have lost the permit and the right and
then they subsidized, or whatever the thing...
Mayor Suarez: Cured it.
Mr. Caraballo: Cured it. Mr. Genuardi showed a printing which appeared in
what I'll show you in page 14. They present an inspection result, but that is
not the number of the inspector and he says that they inspected. Their place
was open on June 10, 1988, but at the same time I found out that the Fire
Department brought this the same day in the same place an inspection and that
inspection said that the place was closed, out of business, which...
Mayor Suarez: You said the Fire Department effected an inspection? Carried
out an inspection?
Mr. Caraballo: There are two inspections in the same day at the same place
and both are different. One is open, the printing shop is working, which it
is not. I knew that perfectly well and the Fire Department said no, it was
closed, it went out of business.
Mayor Suarez: OK.
Mr. Caraballo: OK, now, after that, they concede, in the Planning Department,
whatever, they concede a permit, a class C permit.
Mayor Suarez: They obtained a permit, OK.
Mr. Caraballo: A class C permit and they prohibit at least a letter of Mr.
Cesar Odio said so. They said that no cooking was allowed.
Mayor Suarez: The zoning administrator decided that no cooking could be
allowed on the premises. We know all that. What id your argument as to why
this...?
Mr. Caraballo: My argument is that both are nonconforming with any of the
solutions because they lost the grandfather law and they have to conform with
the rule now in vigor, now, in place. This is what I am looking for and this
is exactly what I would continue to do that until somebody hear me.
Mayor Suarez: OK, Commission, do you want to ask any questions? If not, go
ahead, proceed.
Mr. Cardenas: Yes, if I may. Mr. Mayor, members, of the Commission, for the
record, my name is Al Cardenas with offices at 1221 Brickell Avenue. I'm here
on behalf of Sara Sharpe Catering Service and its owners are both here, Davis
Gillis and his wife, Sara Sharpe. You may notice, Mrs. Sharpe around the
waist is not from the...
Mayor Suarez: Highly irrelevant, counselor.
Mr. Cardenas: It's not from the catering service, she is with child, so we
don't cart to attribute the waist line to the nature of the business. They
own and operate this catering service at 3328 SW 23rd Terrace and. for folks
like Commissioner Plummer who have been around here quite a while and have a
good memory, this... of course, not this good, I don't mean to imply the age
situation, this is property that was constructed in 1936.
Commissioner Plummer: You didn't pay him to represent you, did you?
Mr. Cardenas: Not yet. And it was originally operated as a potato chip
factory and did that for many years, that's why it was built before.
Subsequent to that, it became a print shop and it now is a legal nonconforming
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use, being operated as a catering service. Now, the owners of the property
were confronted by staff and by other folks regarding the claims made by the
appellant here as to the legal non conforming use and the owners of the
property are Peggy and Bryant Brodeur and they provided Mr. Genuardi and the
others who requested the information, the appropriate information to
corroborate the fact that this is a legal nonconforming use taking the place
of the printing business. Now, let me if I can, tell you that whether or not
this is a legal nonconforming use and we're very comfortable and confident it
is, has nothing at all to do with what we're here. Let me tell you what the
confines of the arguments here before you this afternoon are because I think
that the City Attorney will tell you that to make a determination of whether
this is a legal nonconforming use or not, is clearly not within the confines
of the appeal it would not be appropriate for you to do that, although we're
perfectly comfortable that if those were the facts and we had the opportunity
to bring them out and this is not the forum for it, it establishes them as a
legal nonconforming use. Our clients were issued and let me go into the
chronology of it, because the chronology of it, I think is pretty strong in
its merit. Our clients were issued upon request a class C permit to operate
as a catering service. Your City, the City of Miami, issued them a class C
permit. Our clients, because there was a finding that it was a legal
nonconforming use, our clients then proceeded to spend over $30,000, and
these are obviously not wealthy people, they are small business owners.
Mayor Suarez: Counselor, did that class C special permit specify for what
uses?
Mr. Cardenas: Absolutely, and I'm going to get into that.
Mayor Suarez: It included cooking or catering, or whatever?
Mr. Cardenas: Well, I'm going to get into that because of that's the crux of
the issue, obviously. Then, they were issued the class C permit for the
catering business. They proceeded to spend over $30,000 in equipment and
installed them on the premises, in reliance of the class C permit which was
_ issued. Now, all of you are familiar with the catering business, know that is
a very clean business. Basically you have a very small group of people,
usually three or four people including the clients, making hors d'oeuvres to
cater for parties and so forth. The actual cooking is done at the homes or
the establishments that they go cater to. There is no food served on the
premises and no final cooking done on the premises, 'hut there is some light
cooking which is incidental to what we call, pre- cooking to the preparation
of these hors d'oeuvres and so forth, which are eventually taken to their
final destination where they are finally cooked and served to their guests.
That's the nature of a catering service. That is the service that our clients
provide and it is incidental to any catering service. Well, subsequent to the
issuance of the class C permit, the purchase of the equipment and the ongoing
business, our clients were notified by Mr. Genuardi that a change of opinion
had been made on the City because cooking, quote, unquote, was not
contemplated as an incidental use to the class C permit for a catering service
and as such, they were revoking the class C permit. We then filed an appeal
to the Zoning Board on the one issue only and that is whether cooking...
Commissioner De Yurre: At point in time did you get that letter from
Genuardi?
Mr. Cardenas: In October.
Commissioner De Yurre: OK, and when was the permit issued?
Mr. Cardenas: May?
Mr. Rodriguez: May 1st.
Mr. Cardenas: May, about three or four months earlier.
Commissioner De Yurre: When was the equipment installed?
Mr. Cardenas: Between May and October.
Commissioner De Yurre: When?
Mr. Cardenas: Summer?
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Commissioner Plummer: We have to have it on the record.
Mr. Cardenas: Let me... do you want me to finish and I'll have him testify.
Commissioner De Yurre: No, I want the answers.
Ms. Sara Sharpe Gillis: My name is Sara Sharpe Gillis. My address is 3328 SW
23rd Terrace. As soon as we got our permission, we immediately began doing
all the things that we had to do and a lot of the money was spent doing
important things like digging up the floor to lay plumbing and put a grease
trap and things that are not... you might not really want to call it
equipment, it isn't like putting stoves in, but it is utterly critical and has
to be done before we do anything else and we began that immediately as soon as
we got it because other lease was up June 15th and six weeks is not enough
time.
Commissioner De Yurre: When did you finish? When did you finish all that
work?
Ms. Gillis: It took us most of the whole summer., I'd say. The first weekend
we really used our new kitchen properly and fully was the middle of October,
the first weekend we were able to actually really use our new kitchen. It
took us a long time.
Mr. Cardenas: If I can, I want you...
Commissioner Alonso: Let me ask you a question.
Mr. Cardenas: Yes.
Commissioner Alonso: Why would install a grease trap for light cooking?
Ms. Gillis: Because we are required by law.
Commissioner Plummer: She serves greasy food.
Mr. Cardenas: It's a legal requirement.
Ms. Gillis: Required by law.
Commissioner Alonso: I was looking at a letter from Genuardi, which he stated
that you were in violation of the C permit because you were cooking. Was this
installation of the grease trap done prior to the letter of Mr. Genuardi
informing then of the violation, it was done? Give me the steps when he
installed that.
Mr. Cardenas: Yes, we will. Let me, if I can, give you the steps on that.
When the class C permit was issued, there was an accompanying letter
immediately provided by Mr. Genuardi, stating that cooking was permitted, OK?
Commissioner Alonso: In residential area?
Mr. Cardenas: A letter stating that cooking is permitted and I'll provide it
to you for your perusal. Upon obtainment of a class C permit, upon obtainment
of a letter stating that cooking is permitted, our client had to meet code
requirements because they have very light cooking, but the code requires that
all of these steps be taken, so they proceeded to spend this money. Now,
Commissioners, this is not money of a couple of stoves you could put in a
truck and move next door. This is mostly paid for in workmanship and
installation rather than in the equipment itself. I've got the letter right
here. It's dated September 15, 1989, the class C special permit number 89--
1204 approved by the Planning Department on May 1, 1989, does not prohibit
cooking. "I did not authorize a grease trap or a tall chimney. These were
requirements by the plumbing and mechanical section in accordance with the
South Florida Building Code." That a memo to Editha Fuentes. So in reliance
of all of the City requirements, and in reliance of the class C permit, we
incurred all of these expenses. Subsequent to that...
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Commissioner De Yurre: What do you mean by cooking now? Cooking could be,
you know, a couple of eggs.
Mr. Caraballo: Boiling shrimp.
Commissioner Do Yurre: Hold it, hold it, please.
Mr. Cardenas: Al] right, let me...
Commissioner De Yurre: Now, what I want to know, it says it does not prohibit
cooking.
Mr. Cardenas: Right.
Commissioner De Yurre: Nov, what is cooking? Because everybody cooks in a
neighborhood.
Mr. Cardenas: Well, but that's a step that; I'm going to get to. Then be...
Commissioner De Yurre: Are there different types of cooking?
Mr. Cardenas: Yes, but I'm going to get to that in a second and I'm going to
have the client tell you what it is that they actually do there as part of
their testimony. I just wanted to give you a legal synopsis or the chronology
that Commissioner Alonso had asked for. Once we received the class C permit,
once we reviewed the memo, in conjunction with all of that, all of these funds
were expended. Then we received notification from Mr. Genuardi that no
cooking is not an incidental use to your catering service for which you
obtained your class C permit, we changed our mind on the subject and we
advised you to go to a public body of the City of Miami to have the issue
clarified. We appeared before the City of Miami Zoning Board and by a vote of
nine to nothing, nine to nothing, the only issue before the Zoning Board was
whether the cooking that was done, the limited cooking that was done on the
premises, was incidental to the catering service and it was appropriate under
the class C permit which had been issued. The Zoning Board unanimously said,
"yes sir, it is" and the only thing, and that decision was appealed by
appellant. The only issue before you today is whether the Zoning Board by
unanimous nine to zero vote was correct in determining that cooking is an
incidental use to the catering service and therefore and implied used under
the class C permit. After hearing from our clients, after hearing our
arguments, they unanimously, folks you appointed to that board, agreed with
us. Now, the gentleman who is the appellant, the gentleman who is the
appellant, he is appealing, he only has one ground for appeal and that is that
the Zoning Board unanimously erred in making a determination that the cooking
is not incidental to a catering service. Now, Mr. Gillis, or Ms. Sharpe, if
you would care to please testify and answer Commissioner De Yurre's question
and his specific question is what is the nature of the cooking done on the
premises. And incidentally, Mayor, if there is a question involved here,
we'll be happy to have a stipulation and agree that there will be no frying on
the premises. Our only concern is to boil, saute, bake, microwave and do the
things that are incidental to precooking, as we say. That's as simple as
that.
Mayor Suarez: OK, I guess we're about to hear from one of the two of them.
Joe, before we do that, why was this class C permit issued? - and was there in
fact some mistake here? Was it just a broader...
Mr. Joseph Genuardi: Joseph Genuardi, City of Miami Building and Zoning. At
the time they applied for their class C, as we always do, which is our
procedure, we check the certificate of use computer files to see if there is
an active certificate of use and whether it's still in operation. I did that
and I found in the computer that an inspection had been made in June of 188
and that the records had been updated in February of 189 and that it was still
active.
Mayor Suarez: OK, now, the class C permit was still active, is that what
you're saying?
Mr. Genuardi: That's right, yes.
Mayor Suarez: And a class C special permit describing permitted uses...
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Mr. Rodriguez: That's not correct, I'm sorry, what it was carrying was a
certificate of use, not the class C.
Mr. Genuardi: Certificate of use.
Mayor Suarez: Right, because a class C special permit is what they are
here...
Mr. Rodriguez: The class C was what they were applying for.
Mayor Suarez: ... right, seeking. So, you checked with the computer, the
certificate use was in fact for what?
Mr. Genuardi: The certificate of use for Coral Gables Printing Company.
Mayor Suarez: Right, for a printing shop. Nov, weren't they coming in asking
to be able to do a catering service out of there?
Mr. Genuardi: They were asking to change the nonconforming use from a print
shop to a catering service, which is...
Mayor Suarez: OK, and that is done by means of a class C special permit and
doesn't that call for at least some inspection other than just checking on the
computer? I mean, a visual physical inspection?
Mr. Genuardi: Yes, but inspection at this time which was March of '89 would
not indicate to me that the business was still active. It could have been
closed at that time, but I had no idea when it was closed.
Commissioner Plummer: But who went there and looked at the actual physical
premises?
Mr. Genuardi: The fire prevention inspectors back in June of '88.
Commissioner Plummer; In March of '89?
Mr. Genuardi: No, in March we didn't...
Commissioner Plummer: What?
Mr. Genuardi: We did not inspect it in March.
Commissioner Plummer: You issued the permit in March of '89. Who went there
and looked at the actual physical premises in March of 189 to ascertain that
in fact, there was an ongoing business there?
Mayor Suarez: That's the same question I asked and I didn't get an answer.
Mr. Genuardi: No one went to check it.
Commissioner Plummer: Isn't that a damn poor way of doing business?
Mr. Genuardi: Well, as I said, we have really, even if we go out today, if
they apply and we find the business closed, there is no way we can tell when
it was closed. You have to go by the record to show that there was an active
business there.
Mayor Suarez: Well, but at least that day you won't issue a class C special
permit based a grandfather provision or a grandfathered nonconforming use.
You would say, well, this business is closed, therefore, there is nothing to
talk about.
Mr. Genuardi: Was it closed for two days? Was it closed for a month?
Commissioner Alonso: No, but they have a length of time. It could have been
closed and they have 180 days.
Mayor Suarez: Well, if it is closed that particular day, you certainly
wouldn't issue it that particular day.
Mr. Genuardi: Most likely it would have been closed because they were in the
process of changing from the print shop.
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Commissioner Plummer: Did you check to see whether Coral Gables Printing had
an occupational license active in 189?
Mr. Genuardi: They did, yes.
Commissioner Plummer: You say they did?
Mr. Genuardi: They had an occupational license, yea, sir.
Mayor Suarez: As a printing shop?
Mr. Genuardi: As a print shop.
Mayor Suarez: Nov when you try to transfer your use from the one that was
grandfathered in for a print shop to now do cooking or catering or whatever,
in applying for a special use permit, class C special permit, rather, what are
the criteria to be applied?
Mr. Guillermo Olmedillo: It's once established that the use is continuous then
the class C starts and they you have seven criteria which are contained in the
ordinance, access, refuse, the handling of the garbage, the access, the noise,
and anything that is contrary to the area or is consistent with the area in
which it's located. These are the criteria under the class C is issued and I
would...
Mayor Suarez: Almost by definition then, you don't transfer one kind of use
_ to another if you are in an area where it is nonconforming, almost by
definition because it would be inconsistent with the neighborhood.
Mr. Olmedillo: Unless you place those conditions which make it livable with
the rest of the uses in the area, which is what we did when we issued the
class C and just to put it on the record...
Mayor Suarez: I don't see how it could be livable, whatever that means, if it
Is inconsistent with the area, which it was, and now it's changing to a
different use, also inconsistent with the area. Anyhow...
Mr. Sergio Rodriguez: Mr. Mayor, just to clarify for the record, because I
think this might continue going further down...
Mayor Suarez: Well, you'd have some more litigation.
Mr. Rodriguez: The class C is allowed to permit a use that will be less
permissive than the one that was ::here before, or the same, If they were to
continue with a print shop over there, which it was a much more...
Mayor Suarez: That would carry on indefinitely.
Mr. Rodriguez: Carry on indefinitely unless there was a close. So under the
law, they have...
Commissioner Plummer: But how do you know that if no one from your department
went there?
Mr. Rodriguez: But that is a different issue. Let me try to finish with this
part of the argument.
Mayor Suarez: Yes, change of use is what gets me. How come we don't have
that opportunity to do the full screening and then it is almost automatically
denied then. I don't see how it would not be, based on the criteria you read.
Mr. Rodriguez: They check on... what happened is that in the Building and
Zoning Department, before the class C application is received, building and
zoning reviews the record to see if there is in the record they have
outstanding C use in place. If they have been received recently, since the
test is six months, six months in which it has to be closed or more to say
that the conforming was abandoned, the conforming use was abandoned. It's
very easy to establish, what they use as criteria...
Mayor Suarez: We've covered the issue of continuous use of the property in a
nonconforming way. I was trying to figure out how you go from one kind of use
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to another. You told me it was a special class C special permit. I asked for
the criteria, you gave me the criteria.
Mr. Rodriguez: I'm sorry, I was distracted with the other question.
Mayor Suarez: I don't see how applying those criteria, you could possibly
allow catering in a residential neighborhood.
Mr. Rodriguez: Because you have less disruption in the neighborhood by the
catering service than by the printing that you had there before. You had a
printing operation there. —
Mayor Suarez: That was a prior grandfathered use.
Mr. Rodriguez: And this will allow the law to continue that grandfathered use
under the criteria that will be less...
Mayor Suarez: If you keep doing printing there, I guess it could be there for
a long time.
Commissioner Plummer: But how do you know that what the operation of the
printing was a lesser use than the catering if you didn't go there?
Mr. Rodriguez: Because by nature the printing operation has much more of an
effect.
Commissioner Plummer: No, no, not by nature. I've seen printing in the back
of The Miami Herald that is humongous.
Mr. Rodriguez: Oh, I'm sorry, the question that you want to know, whether we
went over there? Building and Zoning use the records to see if it was
established. Planning Department went to the site and went to the place
and...
Commissioner Plummer: He just told me that nobody went there to inspect in
March of 189.
Mr. Rodriguez: That was Building and Zoning looking on the record before
they signed off. After that, Planning Department, and maybe you should get on
the record, Guillermo Olmedillo went to the site and checked on the property.
Commissioner Plummer: What date?
Mr. Rodriguez: Guillermo.
Mr. Olmedillo: Let me check on the... I'll try to get the date for you, sir.
Commissioner Plummer: Prior to March or after March.
Mr. Olmedillo: Prior to May, because the application...
Commissioner Plummer: In other words, the permit had already been issued?
Mr. Olmedillo: No, the permit was issued May 1, 1989, the class C.
Commissioner Plummer: And you went there prior to issuing of the permit or
after?
Mr. Olmedillo: Prior to issuing the permit, because the intended decision was
issued 15 days approximately before May 1, 1989. At that instance, we went
there, myself a member of staff to look over the premises. There was a plan
that had a Coral Gables Printing Shop outside, there is a house in the back
and at the time of making the decision to...
Commissioner Plummer: Was the printing shop in operation?
Mr. Olmedillo: The building was closed at that time and we could not get in
the premises.
Commissioner Plummer: Was the printing shop in operation?
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Mr. Olmedillo: I cannot ascertain to that because the building was closed at
the time and we don't have the permission to go into the premises. We go as
far as going to the site.
Commissioner Plummer: So how did you make a determination that the place was
closed?
Mr. Olmedillo: The plan.
Commissioner Plummer: That there was a sign out front?
Mr. Olmedillo: No, in order to issue the class C, Planning Department doesn't
make that determination. The determination made previously by the Building
and Zoning Department.
Commissioner Plummer: But they didn't go therel They are saying they did
not go there.
Mayor Suarez: And by the way, the answer that the building was closed makes
no sense at all. If the applicant is trying to get a class special permit, he
makes the building available, opens it, shows it, proves that he is or she is
in compliance, not just... you know, you can't just say that's closed and you
don't know how it is being used, that's a ridiculous answer.
Commissioner Plummer: You're right.
Mr. Cardenas: Mr. Mayor, the one thing I want to impress upon you is the
following. Our clients do not own the premises. They are a catering service
that had to make a decision to have access to the premises, they could have
chosen a hundred other places in the City of Miami or elsewhere. They found
this location, they came to the City, they took all the steps necessary to
ascertain whether they could operate a catering service. They were provided a
class C permit, they were provided every single permit they needed to go into
business. They sunk the $30,000, which is all they have, I mean, this is a
young couple, that's all they have. They put every single penny they had into
the installation and the stuff that they could never get back. Now, somebody
decides to revoke it. They go to the Zoning Board, the Zoning Board says
they're right, now here they are. What are you going to do if you tell them
you can't do it? I mean, what are they going to do?
Commissioner Plummer: Question.
Mr. Cardenas: That's all they have. That's their whole business, that's the
only money they have, they sunk it all in good faith and if you tell them no,
what do they do? What did these people do?
Commissioner Plummer: Mr. Genuardi, at the time of the issuance of the
special class C permit, which is now being told to me is May let. Did that
permit.. .
Mayor Suarez: I'm sorry, what was the year May 1st of? - because I'm all
confused as to the dates.
Commissioner Plummer: I'm going by what I was told.
Mayor Suarez: What year was it?
Mr. Rodriguez: May 1st was the day that the class C permit was given, which
is...
Mayor Suarez: May 1st of what year?
Mr. Rodriguez: 1989.
Mayor Suarez: 1989. I'm sorry Commissioner, continue.
Commissioner Plummer: Now, at that time, at the time of the issuance of that
permit, did you tell them then that there was no cooking on the premises?
Mr. Genuardi: No, I did not.
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Commissioner Plummer: OK, at what date did you tell them there was no cooking
on the premises?
Mr. Genuardi: On January 2, 1990.
Commissioner Plummer: Approximately seven months later.
Mr. Genuardi: I was not involved in the class C. After March of...
Commissioner Plummer: Who told them on January 2nd?
Mr. Genuardi: Yes, I did. I did, because I... we had the complaints from Mr.
Caraballo and I was looking into it and in this...
Commissioner Plummer: But the issuance of the permit on May 1st did not
prohibit it?
Mr. Genuardi: Not specifically, no.
Commissioner Plummer: Not what?
Mr. Genuardi: Not specifically, no.
Commissioner Plummer: Well, what specifically did it say?
Mr. Genuardi: It said that it could have a catering service subject to the
hours of operations limited to Monday through Saturday, seven to five, only
two full time employees in addition to owners, owners to reside at residence
on the premise, catering operations to be limited to orders for parties off
the premises, no "cantina" operation allowed, and trash to be packaged and
stored.
Commissioner Plummer: And the owners do live in fact on the property?
Mr. Genuardi: As of this date, no.
Commissioner Plummer: Well then, they are not in compliance.
Mr. Genuardi: Yes, and this is one of my...
Commissioner Plummer: Excuse me, if that is part of the permit and the owners
don't live on the property, then they have breached the...
Commissioner Alonso: The agreement.
Mr. Cardenas: No sir. The owners undertook this... the owners commit that
they know it's a condition and they plan to live up to the condition. Now,
let me explain to you what the situation...
Commissioner Plummer: Well, wait a minute, excuse me. Al, it's simple. I
asked a simple question.
Mr. Cardenas: Yes, but I need to answer it because...
Commissioner Plummer: You can after I get my answer.
Commissioner Alonso: Do they live at the property, yes, or no?
Mr. Cardenas: The answer is yes.
Commissioner Alonso: They do live there?
Mr. Cardenas: Yes.
Mr. Caraballo: They don't.
Commissioner Plummer; Mr. Genuardi.
Mr. Genuardi: I'm sorry, the date I gave you...
Commissioner Plummer: The man who never goes to inspect, but knows all of the
answers. Do they live on the property, yes or no?
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Mr. Genuardi: Let me back up first. The letter I sent that was not...
Commtssioner Plummer: Mr. Genuardi, a simple yes or no answer.
Mr. Genuardi: Yes, but can I... I have to correct the date.
Commissioner Plummer: You can say all you want in fiction and editorial after
you answer my question.
Mr. Genuardi: And it's yes. An inspector...
Commissioner Plummer: They live on the property?
Mr. Genuardi: No, they don't.
Commissioner Plummer: Oh, oh, ahl
Mr. Genuardi: Yes, an inspector...
' Commissioner Plummer: Arrgl
Mr. Genuardi: I said they don't.
"- Commissioner Plummer: You know, let me tell you. Mr. Mayor, people come to
y our offices and complain that they can't go over there and get answers. We
sit and wonder whyl
Mr. Genuardi: I said before that they are not living there. We had an
inspector go there yesterday.
Commissioner Plummer: I merely asked a... I don't need an editorial! I'm
asking for a simple yes or no answer.
Mr. Genuardi: But I wanted to correct the...
Mayor Suarez: That's not as bad as I... I asked for a year a couple minutes
ago and I got a three sentence answer that didn't answer what year we were
talking about. You know, if this was a court of law, you have to answer yes
or no and then you can explain, so when a Commissioner asks, or you don't
know, whatever, but please give us simple answers to simple questions.
Mr. Genuardi: The answer is no, they are not living on the premises. They
are not living as of yesterday.
Commissioner Plummer: Thank you, sir, and now you say any damn thing you
want, even though I'm not going to listen.
Mr. Genuardi: The letter that I said I sent about the no cooking on premise,
_-' I gave you the date of a subsequent letter. The date was October of 1989.
Commissioner Plummer: So then in effect, it was five months and it's in that
five month period, as I understand, that they spent the money, so that's where
I was trying to get to. OTC.
Commissioner Alonso: But to begin with, they are not living in the property.
It is not part of the condition?
- Mr. Cardenas: Let me...
Commissioner Alonso: They are not?
Commissioner Plummer: The owners are a different party and the owners were to
live on the premises.
Mr. Cardenas: Let me if I can, you know, explain this to you. Our clients
have agreed to live on the property. A class C permit was issued. They
proceeded to spend $30,000 improving first the business aspect of it. They
get a notification... it cost them $5,000, $6,000, $7,000, to fix up the place
to be able to live in it. You got to paint it, you got to fix windows, you
got to fix toilets, there are a lot of things they had to do.
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Commissioner Plummer:
But Al, that's not what it says.
Mr. Cardenas; Yes, let me explain. You have to give people a reasonable time
to make property habitable. In the meantime, how do you...
Commissioner Plummer: No, I don't. Not in accordance with the issuance of
j the permit which says clearly, the owners) They are not the owners.
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Mr. Cardenas: Well, the issuance...
Commissioner Plummer: It's simple. They can live there if they want, but the
_= permit says, the owners, who you have said is not these two individuals who
are there.
Mr. Cardenas: But Commissioner, OK, let me, without getting into that whole
argument, the class C permit was issued in May of 1989. To appeal from the
issuance of the class C permit, by law you have 30 days. If you want to
determine that they are not in compliance with a class C permit, that's a
hearing. We have to testify, we've got to bring witnesses, that's not why we
are here. This has nothing to do with compliance with a class C permit. This
has to do with an appeal which had to do with cooking as incidental to a
catering service and that is the only issue before you. They...
Commissioner Alonso: Mr. Cardenas, excuse me, but it is an issue here,
because it is very easy to say, let's allow cooking in a residential area,
cooking for a business, when you don't live there. It is not a commercial
property, it is a residential area. It is an intrusion in the residential
area. It is very easy to say, "Yes, have the cooking," when you don't have to
endure the problems of that cooking. It's very easy to have the permit that
way because when you have nothing to do with that, you don't suffer the
consequences. By the way this is trash. Do they have a commercial account?
Mr. Caraballo: No.
Commissioner Alonso: They don't have a commercial account. We are not
supposed to be picking up the trash of a commercial business and have it as
residential because it is not fair for the City of Miami and this is a lot of
trash, by the way.
Mayor Suarez: Madam City Attorney.
Commissioner Plummer: Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Suarez: Yes.
Commissioner Plummer: Mr. Mayor, let me go on record, and maybe this is not
as I should as a Commissioner say. Let me what I see here, a very clear cut
case. These people, the City has absolutely goofed up. There is no question
in my mindl They have allowed these people, in good faith, to spend $30,000
and then recognize the goof. Now, how do we get these people, Mr. City
Attorney, off of the hook? These people did not intentionally do anything to
violate. They had every right to proceed as they did, as wrong as it is, and
five months later then we went to them and said, "Hey, we goofed, you've got
to stop," and they've already spent their money. Now, how in the hall do we
make this thing right, because in my estimation, I have not heard anything to
tell me that the City acted and did everything right and according to the law.
Now, my father taught me an old adage that says, my mistakes I pay for, your
mistakes you pay for. They didn't make a mistake, they acted in good faith
and they are on the hook for thirty grand. Now, I want to tell you, go a
further step. I want to throw them out of there, but I can't sit here and
vote to throw them out of there if they are going to have $30,000 go down the
drain, which they spent in good faith.
Mr. Rodriguez: May I clarify something?
Commissioner De Yurre: Let me ask a couple of questions.
Mayor Suarez: I think the Commissioner wants to inquire whether they did in
fact do that in good faith. Yes.
Commissioner De Yurre: Now, it is a requirement, from what I understand, that
the owner must live in the property. Is that correct?
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Mr. Rodriguez: Right.
Commissioner De Yurre:
Commissioner Plummer:
Must the owner apply for the special permit?
I think at the time of its issuance, the owner did.
Mr. Rodriguez: At the time it was.
Commissioner De Yurre: What?
Mr. Rodriguez: At the time it was.
Commissioner De Yurre: At the time it was. OK, who applied for that permit?
Commissioner Plummer: The owner has to.
Mr. Rodriguez: David Gillis for Sara Sharpe Catering.
Commissioner De Yurre: Is that the owner of the property?
Mr. Caraballo: No.
Mr. Rodriguez: The owner of that sign -off over here, I cannot read it well,
because it is a signature.
Commissioner De Yurre: Well, let's make...
Mr. Rodriguez: It is an oral consent type of disclosure that we have,
Commissioner De Yurre: Well, let's make it out. Let's see who the owner is.
Who signed that document?
Mr. Cardenaa: It was always meant for these folks to live on the property.
Commissioner De Yurre: Al, you know...
Mr. Rodriguez: We are trying to get that.
Mr. Cardenas: I think if we are dealing with intent, you want to ask...
Commissioner De Yurre: No, I think we are dealing with good faith.
Mr. Cardenas: Right.
Commissioner De Yurre: Right? If you want to get off based on good faith and
I want to establish that there is good faith so that I can come down on the
people that screwed up...
Mr. Cardenas: OK.
Commissioner De Yurre: ... and allow good faith to save the day. But if I
don't see good faith from day one, then I have my conscience is clear...
Mr. Cardenas: I have no problems with that. I have no problems with that.
Commissioner De Yurre: ... to proceed by the strictness of the law.
Mr. Cardenas: I understand. We have no problems with that.
Commissioner De Yurre: And that's why 1 have to establish that the procedure
of who applied? Was it the owner and so on and so forth and I want that
information.
Mr. Cardenas: Our clients applied, but I think if you ask Mr. Olmedillo, he
will tell you that the intent, regardless of how it was worded, was for these
folks to live on the premises, which is what they want to do.
Commissioner De Yurre: Which is illegal. Right Al? - it illegal. No, no,
yes, or no?
Mr. Cardenas: I don't think so.
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Commissioner De Turre: You don't think it's illegal.? Are they the owners?
Mr. Cardenas: No, it's not, because they are separate structures on the
premises.
Commissioner De Yurre: What do you mean, separate structures?
Mr. Cardenas: They are two separate structures.
Commissioner De Yurre: What do you have, two duplexes, or two separate
-- residential homes?
Mr. Cardenas: They are two separate structures on the property, two
buildings.
Commissioner Plummer: Al, the intent, which we've argued before this
Commission before is that the people who own the property, who have the
legitimate rights, if there is going to be an inconvenience, they will be
inconvenienced and stop it and that's why it said the owners, not lessee, the
owners of the property. If they are living in that front house and that
operation is upsetting someone, it is going to upset them and they're going to
stop that operation. They are the only ones legally can stop it.
Mr. Cardenas: J.L., they had a meeting without a lawyer because they just
hired us for the problem. They went, they met with your staff, they sat
down...
Commissioner Plummer% I've admitted all of that.
Mr. Cardenas: ... they negotiated conditions and everyone knew that it was
meant for them to live on the premises and for them to get the class C permit,
since, as Commissioner De Yurre said, we're dealing with good faith and I am
laying it out to you.
Conunissioner Plummer: I agree to that. I don't disagree with that. The
point that he's making is perfectly legal. The point I'm trying to make is
that they spent this money in good faith. Now, can we reimburse them?
Mr. Rodriguez: OK, can I try to set the record straight?
Commissioner De Yurre: Well, I just want to determine whether there was good
faith or not and if that's the case, I go along with it. Go ahead.
Mr. Rodriguez: Can I try to set the record straight because I think it's
important that we do this. The application was signed by Mr. Brodeur.
Mayor Suarez: Mr. ...
Mr. Rodriguez: Brodeur.
Commissioner De Yurre: Who is?
Mr. Rodriguez: Mr. Brodeur is the person that is shown as the owner in this
case. He signed under owner, OK?
Mayor Suarez: But is he the owner of the real estate?
Mr. Rodriguez: That's what they claimed when they signed.
Commissioner De Yurre: Well, have you checked, I'm sure. What's the response?
Mr; Rodriguez: We have a note over here that it was... Marsha Williams was a
notary public that signed that, I mean that notarized it that they signed as
owners.
Commissioner Plummer: You don't check it.
Mr. Rodriguez: How are we going to check that?
Commissioner Plummer: You go the same damn way you check any piece of real
estate, go to your book and find out who the legal owners of that property
are.
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Mr. Rodriguez: They have the burden on themselves to apply as owners.
Commissioner De Yurre: And nobody checks it, so there's not much of a burden,
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is there?
Mr. Rodriguez: Well, if they have applied under the wrong name, then they -
obviously have a problem.
Mayor Suarez: OK, now, where they in fact, now let's find out whether they
were in fact the owners or not of the real estate. -
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Mr. Rodriguez: May I continue then with your conditions because I think it is
important to clarify some of your points, Commissioner. -
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Mayor Suarez: But you said they signed as owners. Were they in fact owners
at that point, of the real estate?
Commissioner Plummer: According to the notary.
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Mayor Suarez: We don't know.
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Mr. Rodriguez: I couldn't tell you that.
Mayor. Suarez: Go ahead.
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Commissioner De Yurre: It's like a...
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Mr. Rodriguez: The conditions...
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Commissioner Plummer: Excuse me. Just for your edification, according to
law, a notary does not attest to the document being truthful. A notary only
attests to the signature in front of him, that's all a notary does. Where the -
hell is my Law Department?
Mr. Rodriguez: In addition to that, we have an affidavit that we received, in
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which they attest that they are the owners of the following described z
property, and they mentioned...
Commissioner De Yurre: Who is this now? 5_
Mr. Rodriguez: And this is signed by Brodeur, the same person, OK? And that
is dated January 16 of 1990.
Commissioner De Yurre: So he is pulling the permit.
Mr. Rodriguez: OK, so now...
Commissioner De Yurre: Is that what we are saying right now?
Commissioner Plummer: January 16th of 190?
Mr. Rodriguez: 190.
Commissioner De Yurre: 190?
Mr. Caraballo: Yes, it was yesterday.
Mr. Rodriguez: The affidavit was...
Commissioner Plummer: Nine days ago.
Mr. Rodriguez: The affidavit...
Mayor Suarez: Please, we can calculate the difference between January 16th
and today without you yelling anything into the mike when you are out of
order. Are you related to him?
Mr. Caraballo: Yes, he is my son.
Mr. Cardenas: Mr. Mayor, we haven't...
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Mayor Suarez: All right, keep an eye on your dad, make sure you keep him -
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under...
Mr. Caraballo: No, I understand that, but I am sick and tired of people
telling lies here. Lying, lying)
Mayor Suarez: I'm trying to get your son who will advise you that you are -
doing very well if you don't get out of order. You've got four Commissioners -_
arguing your side of the case right now, in case you haven't noticed.
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Mr. Cardenas: Right, the only thing I didn't do was... -
Commissioner Plummer: Excuse me, he has the floor.
Mr, Cardenas: OK.
Mr. Rodriguez: If I may continue because there was some questions as to the
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class C. The class C that was given on May 1 of '89 had the following -
conditions and I would like to put that on the record.
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Mayor Suarez: Please.
Mr. Rodriguez: That the hours of operation will be limited to Monday through -
Saturday from 7:00 A.M. to 5:00 P.M. Number two, that only two full-time -
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employees, in addition to the owners could work over there. Number three, -_
that the owners...
Commissioner De Yurre: The owners of the property, not she owners of the -
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business.
Mr. Rodriguez: It says the owners.
Commissioner De Yurre: Of what?
Mayor Suarez: Not clear, OK. _
Mr. Rodriguez: I am telling you exactly how it reads.
Commissioner De Yurre: Well, there are things we need to clear up.
Mayor Suarez: Now, what do you think we intended when we said that? The
owners of the property?
Mr. Rodriguez: The owners are the applicants of the business. The third item
was that the owners must reside at the residence on the premises. The next
one was that the catering operation was to be limited for orders of parties
off the premises.
Mayor Suarez: I'm sorry, what was that again?
Mr. Rodriguez: Catering operation to be limited to orders for parties off the
premises. The next one was that no quote, "cantina," quote, operation
allowed.
Commissioner Plummer: What is a "cantina"?
Mr. Rodriguez: A "cantina" is a service by which people will cook and they
will distribute it to different houses.
Commissioner Plummer: Oh, you mean the bucket operation?
Mr. Rodriguez: Bucket operation, right. Implying there will be no heavy
cooking and the last item was, and trash to be packaged and stored in
waterproof and vermin proofed containers at the rear of the building.
Commissioner Plummer; Waterproof and what?
Mr. Rodriguez: Vermin proof.
Commissioner Plummer: Vermin proof.
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Mr. Rodriguez: Right. And they have to stored at the rear of the building.
Those were the conditions of the class C. In addition to that, there was a
letter that was sent by the lawyer of the applicant, by Sheila Wolfson, dated
July 19, 1989, addressed to you, Mr. Mayor, and with copies to the
-= Commissioners in which as part of item number one, under air pollution, she
mentioned, "catering involved food preparation rather than cooking." Based on
that information, after Mr. Genuardi received complaints that there was going
to be cooking on the premises. He, Mr. Genuardi, sent them a letter in October
saying, "You were not supposed to have any cooking in your facility," based on
the statement received from the applicant.
Mayor Suarez: I have to tell, you once again that all of this contradicts
logic. I have never heard of anybody proposing that food preparation is not
cooking.
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Mr. Rodriguez: They claimed that.
Mayor Suarez: Well, they should have been told that we on g o logic in this
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City and that food preparation is cooking. "Sorry, you cannot do this, bye
y bye, go find some commercial area to do your cooking in."
'- Commissioner Plummer: They are talking about precooking.
Mr. Rodriguez: For example, the example that we are giving...
Mayor Suarez: Precooking, cooking, food preparation, it's all the same thing.
Mr. Rodriguez: The example that we're giving us to do it was rather than
cooking on the premises and frying and so on, they will take a ham, for
example, that was already prepared in another place and they will roll it up
and put a tray of ham. That is not cooking, that is preparing the food. In
addition...
Mayor Suarez: Why would we allow commercial food preparation in a residential
area if they are going from a change of one use to another? That's a great
opportunity to stop a nonconforming legal use and make it all of a sudden a
nonconforming illegal use and prevent it forever and ever and ever in that
neighborhood.
Mr. Cardenas: Let me read the law here.
Mr. Rodriguez: Furthermore, if I may finish. The issue that is before you
here today only, is...
Mayor Suarez: Who is going to pay for the $30,000? That is the issue. Go
ahead.
Mr. Rodriguez: No. That they are claiming, at this point that Mr. Genuardi,
the zoning Administrator, ordered them to stop cooking on the facility and the
original appellant, represented by Mr. Cardenas, tried to continue or to start
cooking in the facility. The Zoning Board, so I can establish a record, found
in support of Mr. Cardenas' client, against the position from Mr. Genuardi.
Mr. Caraballo today is appealing that position from the Zoning Board because
he would like the cooking to stop over there. In a very complicated manner,
this is a simple way to explain the whole process.
Commissioner Plummer: Question.
Mr. Rodriguez: Yes, sir.
Commissioner Plummer: When did the Fire Department go and make their
inspection?
Mr. Rodriguez: Mr. Genuardi.
Mr. Genuardi: You mean subsequent to the Class C?
Commissioner Plummer: When did they go and make their inspection of the
premises as they normally do?
Mr. Genuardi: Their yearly inspection for it was in Tune of. '88 and they
would have gone in 189 around the same time, except that then it was in the
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process of being converted. They did go at the end for the CO, they had an -
inspection. That was given on October 25th.
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Commissioner Plummer: Prior to the letter that you sent them?
Mr. Genuardi: That was around the same time. My letter was...
Commissioner Plummer: Which date is first?
Mr. Genuardi: My letter was October 27nd.
Commissioner Plummer: That's October 25th?
Mr. Genuardi: 27th.
Commissioner Plummer: The 27th, my brother's birthday, OTC. Now, when did
they get their CO?
Mr. Genuardi: They got their CO November 16th.
Commissioner Plummer: November?
Mr. Genuardi: That's 16th and 1989.
Commissioner Plummer: November 16th, so they got a CO after your letter.
Mr. Genuardi: Yes, they...
Commissioner Plummer: From the same City of Miami. Does the right hand know
the left? Let me ask another question. Did they, I assume you might have
checked somewhere along the line, did they go through the normal permitting
process of the plumbing and the electrical and all of that?
Mr. Genuardi: Yes, they did. They submitted plans, plans were reviewed by
all the sections and approved.
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Mr. Cardenas: Mr. Mayor, I'd like for you to hear from our client who has
wanted to say a few words to... sir?
Commissioner Plummer: No, no, no, don't let a pregnant lady who is holding
her belly come up here and talk at that microphone. If you do, call the
rescue squad first.
Ms. Sara Sharpe Gillis: I'm not as far gone as I look. I believe... should I
give my name again? This is Sara Sharpe Gillis of 3328 S.W. 23rd Terrace. I
think the critical factor here in the determination of our being granted the
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Class C was the lesser intensity of use. We have this sort of catering
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business that is - this building is much too large for us. We were happy to
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find this space that we could actually spread out in and find it easier to do
some of the things we do like pack out for parties and spread our equipment
around where we can see what we have and those kinds of things. But, you
might have the idea that we're a much bigger business than we are. That's the
reason we were the lesser intensity of the nature of our business was the
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reason that we were granted. Mrs. Alonso, I certainly do understand your
concerns about heavy grease and frying and all that. I am sure that even if
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you were standing in our driveway, you wouldn't know we were cooking because
it is a very low key business. A lot of days, we don't even come in because
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we don't have any work. Some days we may have sit down dinners for twelve
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people. I mean, it's a very small business. Tonight we have, which is, for
us, a huge party and it's 160 people and it's only one hour of hors d'oeuvres.
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So, I understand your concerns very intensely because I know that you don't
know the size of our business. We have only two full time employees and two
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part time employees which we're permitted and my husband and I, and that's it.
I don't see us...
Mayor Suarez: You have six people preparing food for 160 people tonight in a
residential neighborhood.
Me. Gillis: One of the ladies answers the telephone and speaks with the
clients and books the parties so she's not in the kitchen. My husband does
the paperwork and looks after, our little son and there's a pot washer and
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there is me and I sous chef for the chef. So, I think that's six. That's all
we are. So, I understand that you don't realize how small we are, that's part
of the thing. The other thing that I was real - I'm concerned about it when I
hear, is that you all keep talking about $30,000, like that's everything.
Well, it's a little more than $30,000, it's more like thirty-six, but the main
point is that if we were kicked out, we would have no place to go and I'm
certain we would lose our entire business. That is what has me very alarmed.
I've been in business 12 years very successfully. I have many, many very well
known clients who I'm certain could vouch for the type of work we do. And my
whole business would be put out of business.
Mayor Suarez: Ma'am, on May 1, 1989, you received a permit, Class C special
permit...
Ms. Gillis: Yes, sir.
Mayor Suarez: ...signed by deputy director of the Planning Department, Mr.
Olmedillo...
Ms. Gillis: Yes. sir.
Mayor Suarez: That permit contained certain conditions, one of which is that
the owners will reside at the residence on the premises.
Ms. Gillis: I'd love to speak to that issue, if I may.
Mayor Suarez: Let me ask my question.
Ms. Gillis: Yea, sir.
Mayor Suarez: On May 1, 1989, did you and your husband reside on the
premises?
Ms. Gillis: No, sir.
Mayor Suarez: When did you begin to reside on the premises, if ever? Do you
now...
Ms. Gillis: We are not yet residing on the premises.
Mayor Suarez: How could you possibly expect us to go along with this in view
of that? Not only did you not reside at the time that you got this, it's one
of the conditions stated here. You still don't reside on the premises. What
could possibly make us go along with this?
Ms. Gillis: OK, we had every intention, from day one, of doing precisely
that. Part of the shocker - well, it always costs more money to open a
business than you think. The building is going to take a lot more than five
or six thousand. It's going to take between ten and fifteen just to make it
really usable. We were very willing to go ahead as I told you, we got our
permit May 1st. We were not actually able to occupy the commissary area, the
commercial area, until October 15th, more or less. During those few months,
we had to work in the little cottage...
Mayor Suarez: The commissary area?
Ms. Gillis: Well, we're calling the commercial kitchen area, a com...
Mayor Suarez: The commissary area in a residential neighborhood.
Ms. Gillis: It's a commercial kitchen, sir. It's a commercial kitchen.
Mayor Suarez: I'd love to see what the court of appeals would do with that
one, Al. I would not appeal this one if it's denied.
Ms. Gillis: I wish you would come and see it. Well, I'm trying to simply
differentiate that that is the cooking area...
Mayor Suarez: The commissary. Hoy, it's been a long time since I've heard
that word.
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Ms. Gillis: ...that is the cooking area as opposed to the little cottage
which is the house in back. We had to work somewhere and we worked in the -
cottage for those months. That's one reason we were unable to bring the
Cottage to a livable state. And then, almost immediately, as soon as we got
the proper cooking business moved into, what I'm calling the commissary, from =
- that moment, we began being challenged so much by Mr. Caraballo and our
lawyer, Mrs. Wolfson, advised us and also stated in front of the Zoning =
Commission that she had instructed us to wait until this is all, resolved
before we invest any more money in the property. Because, we, as you know, we
could be kicked out and then we'd be even more deeply in the hole than we are
right now. That's the reason, sir.
Mr. Cardenas: Let me, Mayor, continue, if I can, regarding your issue. I
want to go over those with you if I can. The City had a chance not to issue
the Class C permit. It had no obligation, but it did. And that is why we're
here today. There was a 30-day time period...
Mayor Suarez: But it's tough to argue reliance, Al... —
Mr. Cardenas: Right...
Mayor Suarez: ...if you didn't comply...
Mr. Cardenas: That's right. There was a 30-day time period...
Mayor Suarez: ...if you didn't comply with the condition.
Mr. Cardenas: Yes. There's a 30-day time period within which to appeal the
issuance of a Class C permit. Mr. Caraballo didn't do that. The City didn't
do that. You didn't do that. Our clients in reliance on the issuance spent
all their money, all they had. Five months later, you advise them
differently. Then they go to the zoning board and the zoning board says, of
course, we agree with you. There's got to be some, you know, pre-cooking
address to the issuance. Now, you also addressed the commercial use of the
property.
Commissioner Plummer: But who went to the zoning board?
Mr. Cardenas: Yes, and prevailed nine to nothing.
Commissioner Plummer: Who went to the zoning board?
Mr. Cardenas: Our clients and...
Commissioner Plummer: Which is a recognition on their part that there was not
an absolute guarantee.
Mr. Cardenas: No. Because the Class C permit is still alive. The only thing
that they went to the Commission, to the zoning board for, was an
interpretation as to whether cooking was an allowed use under the Class C
permit. And they prevailed on that decision. If you vote against them today,
you're not revoking the Class C permit.
Commissioner Plummer: Oh, yes, we are.
Mr. Cardenas: No, you're not. You ask the City Attorney.
Commissioner Plummer: You can bet me, now go ahead and test me, Al.
Mr. Cardenas: No, I'm not going to do that.
Commissioner Plummer: Because the owners are not on the premises. Now, you
want to test me, go ahead.
Mr. Cardenas: OK. Number two, there's such a thing called equitable
estoppel, and that has to do with fairness.
Commissioner Plummer: What did I just say?
Mr. Cardenas: I understand.
Commissioner Plummer: What did I tell you before?
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Mr. Cardenas: I understand.
Commissioner Flu.-rmier: Now, Mr. Mayor, let me sum this up, as far as I'm
concerned. As I see this dilemma, it's simple. These people acted in good
faith, they've put out $36,000. Does the City reimburse them because this man
has rights, as a neighbor, and he is not supposed to be inconvenienced and
that's where we are. Now, how do we get off of that? You're talking and his
talking isn't going to do it. We got to go legally. How do we do it? It's
just that simple.
Mayor Suarez: Somebody. The City Attorney's a good place to start.
Miriam Maer, Esq.: With reference to the violation of the Class C permit, as
in all violations of permits of this nature, it becomes an enforcement action
and gets referred to the code enforcement section who ultimately, after they
prepare their case, would take it before the code enforcement board.
Commissioner Plummer: My dear, I think that the consensus of this Commission
is that there has been a wrong which has been committed by the City, OK?
These people acted in good faith, spent thirty-six thousand. If we reimburse
them, is that the answer? This man is not to be inconvenienced. Is there a
compromise that can be dwelled in between where they limit the man of hours,
they do no cooking. You know, we're arguing back and forth, we're arguing in
circles and we're not getting anywhere.
Mayor Suarez: And if you want us - if you're going to explore that, let me
tell you, for myself, that I don't see any reasonable reliance, Al. So, if
you want to spend sometime negotiating, I don't know, could we, if the
Commission were disposed, compensate him in some amount? - to stop...
Commissioner Alonso: Yes, I even have my - to tell you the truth, I even have
my doubts to the extent of where and how the City was wrong. Because if I
follow the steps, I find contradicting information and I'm not certain if the
City was wrong to begin with. It is a fact that this family has spent the
amount of money that it did. It is also my personal belief that they've been
cooking from day one. You were not permitted by law to do cooking in the
property.
Mr. Cardenas: Yes, they were. According to the zoning board.
Commissioner Alonso: It is permit, a Class C permit, so grey that really
allow cooking in a residential area?
Mr. Cardenas: But the point is this,
you, is the following, this property,
been used for commercial purposes.
Commissioner Alonso: But not cooking.
Mr. Cardenas: It was used... yes...
Mrs. Alonso, what I'm trying to tell
since 1936, has, without interruption,
Commissioner Alonso: Oh, were they cooking?
Mr. Cardenas: ...it opened up as a potato chip factory. Frying potato chips
for 40 years. Forty years they fried potato chips.
Commissioner Alonso: I don't know how they did then. I'm not sure how they
fried.
Mr. Cardenas: Then it became a printing business. When Caraballo, a
neighbor, moved there, he moved there knowing there was a printing business
that employed 13 people on this premise. He's not an affected person who
never knew there was a commercial use in the property. He moved to his
property when this property, that our clients are operating, now was operating
as a printing business employing 13 people. We've gone from a printing
business employing 13 people when he lived where he continues to live, to a
much less intensive use employing two people. And that is what the planning
director and the assistant city manager was referring to. They gave us a
Class C permit because it was a much less intensive use than the previous
printing business and because it's a legal nonconforming use and because it
was legally the thing they had to do in accordance with section 2104.5 of your
City code.
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Commissioner. Alonso: Let me ask you a question, Mr. Cardenas, and then I'd
also like to address the question to the gentleman. When this letter was sent `
by your office, it says, member three, giving answers to Miss Gloria Fox, in
number three you say, "Cooking is not the main use of the premises, but, =_
instead, preparation of food is the main use." —
Mr. Cardenas: Main use, that's correct.
Commissioner Alonso: Why are they so concerned now with cooking?
Mr. Cardenas: We're not concerned, he is. Cooking is a very minor part of _
our operation.
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Commissioner Alonso: I'd really like to see this business in operation at a
proper time that I can go and see the area, see the conditions, see how you do
that and I think it is, at least to me, will give me a more clear picture of
what it is....
Mr. Cardenas: Yes, we will agree that there will be no frying on the
property.
Commissioner Alonso: ...to me, it's awful, cooking in the middle of a
residential area, cooking, a business.
Mr. Cardenas: We will agree that we will not fry food.
Commissioner Alonso: That thought, it's not... and I also wonder, and, of
course, you can answer if you want, if you don't want, you don't have to.
But, how in the world, did you spend this kind of money in a residential area
when you knew that you were getting a special Class permit? Why didn't you go
to a commercial area?
Me. Gillis: Believe me, we had no idea all these snags would occur later on.
It's just been a total nightmare for us. It is very expensive to build a
commercial kitchen and that is what we're legally required to have. When you
mean you have to take up a floor and put in plumbing and move walls and do
things like that so it fits and as far as equipment, we already owned all the
equipment. We didn't buy any equipment. These were things that we had to do
to the building, but we had the permission so we thought it was OK.
Mayor Suarez: I also have a lot of doubt as to your spending $36,000 under
conditions where you weren't even complying with one aspect of it, but we've
got a proposal here. Why don't you put into the record what you're thinking
about, Madam City Attorney, the idea would be that we may want to explore
other facts relevant to the issue of equitable estoppel. In the meantime, we
could today specify what, if any cooking would actually be done on the
premises.
Ms. Maer: My thoughts were to either maintain the status quo or as this
Commission would wish, to restrict it further from what they're presently
permitted to do.
Mayor Suarez: How much can we restrict today?
Ms. Maer: It's really kind of up to the Commission. You can require that
there be no cooking or you could specify that the type of cooking be a very
limited type, not to include frying or perhaps something else that they might
want to stipulate to.
Mayor Suarez: We could require no cooking at all. We can legally require no
cooking at all.
Ms. Gillis: No cooking would effectively put me out business.
Mayor Suarez% Except for the...
Ms. Gillis: No cooking at all would put me out of business.
Mayor Suarez: I didn't ask you anything, ma'am.
Ms. Gillis: Yes, sir.
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Mayor Suarez: We could require no cooking at all except for the people who -
reside there. I mean, if they want to cook to eat themselves, they can do
that. They could do that in any home or their guests or something who are _
there. A reasonable number of people, but no commercial cooking.
Me. Maer: I think you could do that because that would specifically relate to
the issue in front of you which is not the Class C and not the nonconforming
status, but, in fact, is whether or not Mr. Genuardi.'s October, 1989 letter
was correct ordering no cooking. So, if you want to continue the hearing, so
to speak, and maintain the status quo, as mandated by the zoning -
administrator, it would be no cooking until such time as you resolve this, but
you could take any step along that way.
Commissioner Plummer: Can I try another track? Sir, let me ask you a
question. Do you understand we're on the horns of a dilemma? All right, is
there...
Mr. Caraballo: Yes, I understand, but I don't think that you are touching the
principal point in this which is, they gave...
Commissioner Plummer: Can I ask you a question?
Mr. Caraballo: OK.
Commissioner Plummer: All right. Is there any way that you feel a compromise
can be brought about to get this Commission off the horns of a dilemma? The
limitation of something, the reduced amount of hours. Is there any way that
you can compromise that you think that it could be acceptable?
Mr. Caraballo: Not for the moment. Let me explain why. When the permit, the
special permit was granted, was granted based in what Genuardi thought and
proclaimed that was a real inspection. Which it's not. And then, when this
appear, he change his mind. When the second one appear. Therefore, I'm
trying that you understand that the special permit was granted under false
pretense.
Commissioner Plummer: On the what?
Mr. Caraballo: On the false pretense.
Commissioner Plummer: False pretenses, OK.
Mr. Caraballo: OK. That's exactly what happened at this moment. You see,
they find out later that they have been cheated and I mean to talk of this. I
wrote a letter in May 5t,h to the Mayor and sent a copy of all of you
expressing the same thing, telling this. This have been closed for many month
and nobody pays attention to it. Everybody rolls on top of that. Why I have
to get back to it. The owner of the property which is not them yet. They are
in the process of buying it and stop it because of this. The owner of the
property move away, close down the situation and lost his right. Then, in
order to get it back, somebody invented this. I don't know who but somebody
invented it and this belong to the computer of the City.
Mayor Suarez: I'm not sure what this is relevant to. Commissioners, what do
you want to do on this item? Any suggestions, Mr. Planning Director?
Somebody?
Mr. Rodriguez: I believe that the... again, the issue before you is the
cooking issue and if you were to establish that you either have no cooking or
some limited cooking on the premises, that would satisfy, at least from the
point of view of the concerns of the planning department had from the
beginning, you know, on this type of activity, the concerns of the
administration.
Mr. Cardenas: We would be willing to limit cooking to only X number of days a
week, only X number of hours, eliminate frying. We're extremely flexible as
to what you want to do. As Miss Sharp said, the nature of the cooking is such
that you can't tell from the driveway they're cooking. But we would do it...
and you don't see any other neighbors complaining. Obviously, if it was the
kind of use - you know, Commissioner Alonso, better than anyone, how neighbors
feel. I€ this was kind of an abusive thing, there would have been a lot of
57 January 25, 1990
neighborhood movement. They would have been here. You would have received
calls and letters. I have respect for a gentleman who is exercising his
_—
rights as a citizen to have his voice heard, but this is not something where -
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there is overwhelming neighborhood concern over, or you would have heard from
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them. They're not here.
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Mr. Rodriguez: Another possibility, Mr. Mayor, that I was just thinking of,
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is that you might grant the amount of cooking that you might desire for a
period of time to see how it works. After which, it can be reviewed and
brought up before this body and decide whether that works or not. If it
doesn't work, you remove the cooking completely.
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Mayor Suarez: Well, I want the rest of the Commission to come up with what =
they consider to be an adequate formula. I was exploring this one because it
might relate to a consensus here. For myself, the moment that you have a
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grandfathered use and they seek under a special Class C permit a different use
on the basis of the criteria that were put on the record by Guillermo, which
—_
state that it has to be in consonance with or in accordance with the
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neighborhood, automatically, you should deny them. That's the way I look at -
it. You should - in fact, I would put you on notice right now that, for my
vote, you should automatically deny them every- single time because that
criterion gives you sufficient authority to deny them. So, I can't possibly
vote for this item except just as an accommodation to the rest• of the -_
Commission. So, if anybody has a better idea, such as limiting the cooking in
some way, I would limit it to no cooking at all, I mean, I don't see shy we
should allow any cooking there at all. But, if the Commission wants to do it
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otherwise, I'll vote for it just so we can get on with some other items.
Commissioner Plummer: Let me ask you this. Do you feel there would be any
help that if the Commission went and looked at the facility. Would that be of
any help?
Mr. Rodriguez: I think you would get the idea of the property, how it looks
on the outside, which is not exactly residential.
Commissioner Plummer: I move this item be deferred.
Mayor Suarez: So moved.
Commissioner Alonso: Yes, I second.
Mayor Suarez: Seconded.
Commissioner Plummer: Till February the 15th.
Mayor Suarez: Any discussion? If not, please call the... and by the way, I
have to say this, Al, and I don't mean to pick an argument with you in any
way, but the idea that you can't see from the driveway what is going on there,
doesn't mean anything to me. You could have an underground nuclear facility
and you wouldn't be able to see from the driveway what's going on underground.
Commissioner Plummer: Don't laugh, Mr. Mayor, I'll show you one on 40 th
Avenue that is a reloading shop that if that thing ever has a match, that end
of the City is going up.
Mayor Suarez: I got to your engineering background, right? And his political
background back there, Virgilio....
Commissioner Plummer.: And, as part of my motion, of deferment, Al, I want you
to meet with this gentleman, OK?
Mr. Cardenas: OK.
Commissioner Plummer: At his convenience and see if there is some kind of a
compromise that can be reached. I'm not saying that it's possible. Maybe
there's some way that the two of you can come up with some solution with we,
the Commission, who know we're on the horns of a dilemma, trying to do what's
right for both sides, and just use my old saying that says, that reasonable
people can disagree, but they don't have to be disagreeable. So, I would beg
you to meet with this gentleman to see if there's any way that a compromise
can be reached. Maybe not, but at least I want you to try.
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Mr. Cardenas: OK.
Mayor Suarez: All right.
Mr. Cardenas: Yes, sir.
Mayor Suarez: So moved and seconded. Any discussion? If not, please call
the roll.
Commissioner Plummer: And don't take him to dinner at a caterer.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved
its adoption:
MOTION NO. 90-77
A MOTION CONTINUING TO THE MEETING OF FEBRUARY 15,
1990, CONSIDERATION OF AN APPEAL BY ARTURO G.
CARABALLO OF ZONING BOARD'S APPROVAL OF AN APPEAL,
THEREBY PERMITTING COOKING AT 3328 S.W. 23 TERRACE;
FURTHER DIRECTING THAT ALL INTERESTED PARTIES MEET AND
TRY TO REACH A COMPROMISE IF AT. ALL POSSIBLE.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Alonso, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Victor De Yurre
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner Miriam Alonso
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Vice Mayor Miller Dawkins.
Mr. Rodriguez: Item 15, right?
Commissioner Alonso: Fifteen.
Commissioner Plummer: Fifteen, right.
Mayor Suarez: Yes. Do you cater for parties of ten or less?
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: Yes.
Commissioner Plummer: How about five or less? We're hungry. About an hour
and a half...
Mayor Suarez: OK, we are adjourned until five, which is just as well, because
I've been informed that - what is it, the Mayor and how many Commissioners of
the City of Sweetwater...
Commissioner Plummer: Have just been indicted.
Mayor Suarez: Have been indicted and the Governor is looking for
recommendations for people to fill those posts and...
Commissioner Plummer: Jack Alfonso would do well and Agua Duice.
Mayor Suarez: And, seriously, if my fellow Commissioners would know people
who are...
Commissioner Plummer: That live in Sweetwater?
Mayor Suarez: Who live in Sweetwater and who make sense to fill those
positions, please let us know so we can get back to the Governor.
THEREUPON THE CITY COMMISSION WENT INTO RECESS AT 4:40
P.M. AND RECONVENED AT 5:06 P.M., WITH ALL MEMBERS OF
THE CITY COMMISSION FOUND TO BE PRESENT EXCEPT. VICE
MAYOR DAWKINS AND COMMISSIONER DE YURRE.
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18. CORRECT SCRIVENER'S ERROR BY FINDING THAT PAGES 6 AND 7 (EXHIBIT "A")
WERE INADVERTENTLY OMITTED AND SHOULD HAVE BEEN INCLUDED AS EXHIBIT "B"
OF RESOLUTION 89-989 (OCTOBER 26, 1989) - A MAJOR USE PERMIT WHICH
APPROVED TWO PARKING STRUCTURES FOR STATE OF FLORIDA DADE COUNTY
REGIONAL SERVICE CENTER PROJECT.
Mayor Suarez: Which one are we on, Joe? - PZ...
Mr. Jorge Fernandez: Five.
Mayor Suarez: Five, I see you're getting warmed up. PZ-5, Commissioner.
Commissioner Plummer: Scrivener's error, I move it.
Mayor Suarez: So moved.
Commissioner Alonso: PZ what?
Mayor Suarez: Scrivener's errors. Minor insubstantial correction of prior
mistakes.
Mr. Joe McManus: Mr. Mayor, two pages were mislaid some place and what we'd
like to do is put them back in. You've seen the substance of this before.
We're merely trying to retrace our steps here.
Mayor Suarez: Beautiful. OK, we have a motion. Commissioner Alonso, do you
second?
Commissioner Alonso: Yes.
Mayor Suarez: Call the roll on that motion. Is it an ordinance? No.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner.. Plummer, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 90-78
A RESOLUTION, WITH ATTACHMENTS, CORRECTING A
SCRIVENER'S ERROR BY FINDING AND CONFIRMING THAT PAGES
6 AND 7, MARKED AS EXHIBIT "A", HERETO, WERE
INADVERTENTLY OMITTED AND SHOULD HAVE BEEN INCLUDED IN
EXHIBIT "B" OF RESOLUTION 89-989, DATED OCTOBER 26,
1989, THE MAJOR USE SPECIAL PERMIT WHICH APPROVED TWO
PARKING STRUCTURES FOR THE STATE OF FLORIDA DADE
--- COUNTY REGIONAL SERVICE CENTER PROJECT, AND
INCORPORATING SAID PAGES; CORRECTED RESOLUTION AS
NOVEMBER 25, 1989; DIRECTING THE CITY CLERK TO CORRECT
RESOLUTION 89-989; AND CONTAINING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Alonso, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner Miriam Alonso
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Cot tssioner Victor De Yurre
Vice Mayor Miller Dawkins.
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19. FIRST READING ORDINANCE: AMEND
CODE CHAPTER
62,
SECTION 62-16 - REQUIRE
A COMPANION ZONING APPLICATION
AND REORGANIZE
SCHEDULE FOR SEMIANNUAL
PLAN AMENDMENTS; SECTION 62-18
TO REFERENCE
THE
PLANNING ADVISORY BOARD_
AS THE LOCAL PLANNING AGENCY - INSERT
NEW
SECTION 62-19 ("LAND
DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS"), ETC.
(Applicant:
Planning Department.)
Mayor Suarez: PZ-6.
Mr. Joe McManus: Mr. Mayor, members of the Commission, PZ-6 is an ordinance
amending chapter 62 zoning and planning of the City Code. This is a planning
department item. We're recommending it. It was recommended unanimously...
Mayor Suarez: Anyone wish to be heard on PZ-6? Let the record reflect no one
stepped forward.
Commissioner Plummer: First reading, I'll move it.
NOTE FOR THE RECORD: Commissioner De Yurre entered
the meeting at 5:08 p.m.
Mayor Suarez: Moved.
Commissioner Alonso: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Seconded. Any discussion? If not, please read the ordinance.
Call the roll.
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER 62 OF THE CODE OF THE
CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA, AS AMENDED, BY AMENDING
SECTION 62-16 TO REQUIRE A COMPANION ZONING
APPLICATION AND TO REORGANIZE THE SCHEDULE FOR
SEMIANNUAL PLAN AMENDMENTS; SECTION 62-18 TO REFERENCE
THE PLANNING ADVISORY BOARD AS THE LOCAL PLANNING
AGENCY; BY INSERTING A NEW SECTION 62-19 ENTITLES
"LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS" AND LISTING THEM;
SECTION 62-25 BY ADDING A NEW SUBSECTION (11)
DESIGNATING THE PLANNING ADVISORY BOARD AS THE LOCAL
PLANNING AGENCY AND LOCAL LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATION
COMMISSION; AND CONTAINING A REPEALER PROVISION,
SEVERABILITY CLAUSE AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
Was introduced by Commissioner Plummer and seconded by Commissioner
Alonso and was passed on its first reading by title by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Victor De Yurre
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner Miriam Alonso
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Vice Mayor Miller Dawkins.
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and
announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commission and
to the public.
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20. FIRST READING ORDINANCE: AMEND 9500, PAGE 4 OF OFFICIAL SCHEDULE OF
_ DISTRICT REGULATIONS - INSERT NEW CR-3 COMMERCIAL -RESIDENTIAL (GENERAL)
TITLE - PROVIDE SALE OF USED CARS IS PERMISSIBLE BY SPECIAL EXCEPTION
SUBJECT TO LIMITATION, ETC. (Applicant: Planning Department.)
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Mayor Suarez: PZ-7.
Mr. Guillermo Olmedillo: PZ-7 is an amendment to the ordinance, zoning
ordinance 9500, to provide through a special exception permit the sale of used
cars in connection with new cars. And the planning department recommends
approval and the planning advisory board recommended approval on a six to one.
Commissioner Plummer: You're going to have to give roe some more explanation
on selling of used cars. Tell me more.
Mr. Olmedillo: We have two limitations. Basically, we say that you cannot
have more than 30 percent of your frontage or ten percent of the total area
and that's an amendment that has to be introduced on the record. And we're
saying that it's only accessory to new cars. You have to have a new car
dealership in order to sell used cars in a CR-3 districts. You can do it in
CG-I, which is, a more liberal district, but in order to do it in the CR-3
district, you would have to have a new car dealership. You can only use 30
percent of the frontage, it has to be enclosed and if you don't use 30 percent
of your frontage, you should at least - you have to, at least, use 10
percent - or at the most, I should say, ten percent of the total area.
Commissioner Plummer: Move item 7.
Mayor Suarez: So moved.
Commissioner Alonso: Yes, I second.
Mayor Suarez: Seconded. Any discussion? If not, please read the ordinance.
Call the roll.
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE NO. 9500, AS AMENDED,
THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA, BY
AMENDING PAGE 4 OF THE OFFICIAL SCHEDULE OF DISTRICT
REGULATIONS, BY INSERTING A NEW CR-3 COMMERCIAL -
RESIDENTIAL (GENERAL) TITLE AND PROVIDING THAT THE
SALE OF USED CARS IS PERMISSIBLE BY SPECIAL EXCEPTION
SUBJECT TO A LIMITATION; AND PROVIDING AN APPROPRIATE
EXCEPTION FOR SECONDHAND MERCHANDISING UNDER PRINCIPAL
USES AND STRUCTURES, CR-3 COMMERCIAL RESIDENTIAL
(GENERAL); CONTAINING A REPEALER PROVISION,
SEVERABILITY CLAUSE AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
Was introduced by Commissioner Plummer and seconded by Commissioner
Alonso and was passed on its first reading by title by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Victor De Yurre
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner Miriam Alonso
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Vice Mayor Miller Dawkins.
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and
announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commission and
to the public.
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21. (A) MODIFY PROPOSED NEW ZONING ORDINANCE - ELIMINATE SD-12 OVERLAY
DISTRICT FROM S.W. 22 TERRACE BETWEEN 17 AND 27 AVENUES, TO
PREVENT COMMERCIAL ENCROACHMENT.
(B) MODIFY PROPOSED NEW ZONING ORDINANCE - ELIMINATE SD-12 OVERLAY
DISTRICT IN AREA ALONG BOTH SIDES OF CORAL WAY FROM 12 AVENUE TO
CITY LIMITS (37 AVENUE), TO PREVENT COMMERCIAL ENCROACHMENT.
(C) MODIFY PROPOSED NEW ZONING ORDINANCE - CHANGE. ZONING —
CLASSIFICATION ON THE TWO CITY -OWNED LOTS AT APPROX. S.W. 24
STREET AND 24 TERRACE BETWEEN 19 AND 21 AVENUES (GOLDEN ARMS) TO
PR (PUBLIC RECREATION).
i (D) MODIFY PROPOSED NEW ZONING ORDINANCE - CHANGE ZONING
=1 CLASSIFICATION IN AREA OF MIAMI RIVER FROM 22 TO 27 AVENUES
-� (PARADISE POINT) TO SD-4 (SPECIAL WATERFRONT DISTRICT).
(E) MODIFY PROPOSED NEW ZONING ORDINANCE - CHANGE MASTER PLAN
DESIGNATION FOR THE MIAMI JEWISH HOME PROPERTY (APPROX. AT N.E.
2 AVENUE AND 52 STREET) FROM CG-2/7 TO I/G
(INSTITUTIONAL/GOVERNMENT) - DIRECT PLANNING DEPARTMENT TO STUDY
AREA AND BRING BACK RECOMMENDATION AS TO POSSIBLE RAMIFICATIONS
OF THIS REZONING.
(F) INSTRUCT PLANNING DEPARTMENT TO STUDY AREA AROUND N.W. 5 STREET
AND 2 AVENUE FOR POSSIBLE CHANGE OF PLAN DESIGNATION/ZONING
_ CLASSIFICATION IN PROPOSED NEW ZONING ORDINANCE.
(G) MODIFY PROPOSED NEW ZONING ORDINANCE - ELIMINATE ALL COMMERCIAL
BUILDING ENCROACHMENT ON RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY IN PROPOSED SD-12
DISTRICT THROUGHOUT CITY.
(H) DIRECT PLANNING DEPARTMENT TO CONDUCT A STUDY OF PROPOSED ZONING
ATLAS (PAGE 33 - N.W. 36 COURT BETWEEN 7 AND FLAGLER STREETS)
FOR POSSIBLE MULTIFAMILY PLAN DESIGNATION/CHANGE OF ZONING -
-f
-j INSTRUCT PLANNING DEPARTMENT TO AMEND PROPOSED R-3 ZONING
=) DISTRICT IN NEW ZONING ORDINANCE TO REFLECT CERTAIN NEW
PROVISIONS FOR PARKING REQUIREMENTS.
(I) MODIFY PROPOSED NEW ZONING ORDINANCE - CHANGE MINIMUM LOT SIZE
--'i? IN THE R-3 DISTRICT FROM 10,000 SQ. FEET TO 5,000 SQ. FEET.
(J) DELETE ALL TRANSFER OF DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS SECTIONS FROM PROPOSED
i NEW ZONING ORDINANCE - INCLUDE LINKAGE PROGRAM FOR UP TO
v ADDITIONAL 25% F.A.R. IN APPROPRIATE DISTRICTS, WITH PROVISOS.
(K) FIRST READING ORDINANCE: REPEAL ORDINANCE 9500 - SUBSTITUTE NEW
ZONING ORDINANCE - BY MAKING FINDINGS, CONTAINING AUTHORITY,
! INTENT AND PURPOSE, AND SHORT TITLE SECTIONS; REGULATING LAND,
WATER AND STRUCTURES, USES AND OCCUPANCIES, HEIGHT AND BULK,
DENSITY, LOT COVERAGE, etc.; PROVIDE FOR OFFICIAL ZONING ATLAS
�f AND OFFICIAL SCHEDULE OF DISTRICT REGULATIONS, ZONING DISTRICTS,
�1; PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICTS, SPECIAL PUBLIC INTEREST DISTRICTS,
etc.; PROVIDE FOR FUNCTIONS AND RESPONSIBILITIES OF CITY
COMMISSION, OFFICERS AND BOARDS, SPECIAL PERMITS, SPECIAL
'j' EXCEPTIONS, PROVIDING FOR APPEALS, etc.; PROVIDE FOR EFFECTIVE
—5.1 DATE.
Mayor Suarez: PZ-8. Well, all of the people that are here must be here on
either PZ-8 or PZ-9.
Commissioner Plummer: PZ-9? Oh, yes.
Mayor Suarez: Who is here on PZ-8? Would you please raise your hand. OK, so
this...
Commissioner Plummer: PZ-8, planning and zoning item number eight. It's in
reference to repealing the 9500.
Mayor Suarez: ...almost the entire crowd is here on PZ-8.
Mr. Olmedillo: PZ-8, Mr. Mayor, members of the Commission, it's the new
ordinance as you instructed us, we're back to you on first reading. I have to
correct that on the record because the agenda reads second reading. This is a
first reading of the ordinance. This is a zoning ordinance proposed for the
City in which we tried to do two basic things. One, to simplify 9500. The
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second one is to comply with state law which requires all our zoning
instruments to be consistent with the comprehensive plan. We have done
several things to the ordinance. One of the things that we've done, we have
gotten rid of the LUI (Land Use Intensity) System. As you know, that is a
performance type of ordinance which was a complicated instrument in which we
ended up with many districts.
Mayor Suarez: What did you call that system, Guillermo? The what system?
Mr. Olmedillo: Performance ordinance, because it's kind of a sliding scale. _
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do more and you have to do - if you do more building, you have leave more
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open space, you have to leave - parking goes into a decreasing number because
of economies of scale so it gets to be very complicated. It was a very
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complex ordinance. This is a simpler type of ordinance. We are changing the
district nomenclature and we're reducing the number of districts. As you
know, we have 58 basic districts. Right now, we end up with 33 basic
districts. We are... one of the issues that is going to be brought to you by,
let's say, both sides of the position, is that the transitional use which was
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deleted from the ordinance, you had instructed us to come back with something
that will solve the problem for those commercial properties that need
expansion, but you did not want it to be across the board all over the City as
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it was before. We are increasing the parking, as you instructed us to do.
The parking requirements are being increased. The loading requirements are
being decreased, on the other hand, because they're excessive. We're making
changes to the planned development, we are reducing the number of SPIs in
trying to simplify on the language of the SPIs. We are introducing a wider
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rights. We are making more restrictive the non conformity section of the
ordinance. We are unifying the type of timing that we have in the different
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permits in the different processes. Sometimes we talk about calendar days,
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sometimes we talk about working days. So we're unifying everything to
calendar days so that everybody knows what we're talking about. We have -
right now, we've used from six types of special permits to four types of
special permit. Again, in order to simplify, we are modifying the thresholds
for the major use special permit so that this Commission has an opportunity to
look at the large scale projects which were left out of the existing
ordinance.
Mayor Suarez: On the - Sergio, on the transferable development rights. We're
voting on that in this ordinance, right?
Mr. Rodriguez: It's part of it today, that is correct.
Mayor Suarez: You gave me, through the Manager, I presume you wrote it, a
memo that I think I received today answering my prior memo as to questioning
the necessity for all of this. And I believe in that memo, you state that we
can't do it without this ordinance. We can't just go ahead and increase
density by whatever the percentage is that you intend to when you transfer
development rights because you may have run into problems with growth
management legislation in terms of the levels of service then being exceeded.
That's one of the...
Mr. Rodriguez: Well, you cannot give wholesale throughout the City an
increase of zoning throughout the whole system.
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Mayor Suarez: All right, but in a transferable development right situation,
you will also have to abide by and analyze, in a particular case, whether
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you're going to exceed the levels of service to the extent that you'd, in
effect, fly in the face of concurrency requirements or the growth management
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Mr. Rodriguez: Right.
Mayor Suarez: That applies either way. I mean, that's...
Mr. Rodriguez: So, what we're doing is to make sure that it can be done, we
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have created a process by which when that approach is followed, it will have
to come before you in a hearing and you make a decision to make sure that it
will be properly in the record.
Mayor Suarez: I understand., but when it's desirable to permit the development
right to the transfer relocation, right? You have two locations...
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Mr. Rodriguez: Right.
Mayor Suarez: ...the transferrer location and the transferee location.
Mr. Rodriguez: Right.
Mayor Suarez: When it's desirable to permit the additional development in they
transferee location...
Mr. Rodriguez: Right.
Mayor Suarez: ...right? You've determined that, otherwise you can't, you
know, it's in accordance with the comprehensive master plan, etcetera. Why
must you surrender any development rights in the transferrer location? I
don't understand why you have to do that.
Mr. Rodriguez: Because the transferrer location was based on a total amount -
was part of the total assumption of the growth...
Mayor Suarez: Of the area.
Mr. Rodriguez: ...that the area could take.
Mayor Suarez: So you're assuming that there's some constraint that you can
have the development rights in both.
Mr. Rodriguez: Right.
Mayor Suarez: And then you're saying if you can go - if that exists, then you
go f rom here to here. Where does that constraint take place? I mean, with
central business district and we've gone through this today once again, all of
us are saying, increase density, don't constraint too much, always within, of
course, the DRIB, where we have a DRI and always within the constraints of the
growth management legislation.
Mr. Rodriguez: We're in full agreement with you.
Mayor Suarez: Right.
Mr. Rodriguez: In central business district you don't have...
Mayor Suarez: It doesn't make any sense.
Mr. Rodriguez: You don't make any sense because...
Mayor Suarez: Well, that's what people are telling me that they want it for.
They're saying, "Well, for example, if Knight-Ridder has some development
rights over by the Omni, we..."
Mr. Rodriguez: But that is not the central business district. The CBD...
Mayor Suarez: The Omni's no longer... where does it end going north?
Mr. Rodriguez: The Omni is part of the DRI.
Mayor Suarez: Right.
Mr. Rodriguez: But it's not part of. the CDB zoning that is unlimited.
Mayor Suarez: Where does it end going north? What is the central business...
Mr. Rodriguez: It's SPI 6, I believe right.
Mr. Olmedillo: Yes, SPI six.
Mr. Rodriguez: OK, six. What it has limitations on it presently, has
limitations on floor area ratio. The downtown have basically no limitations
on floor area ratio.
Mayor Suarez: How far does it go in a nurthward direction along Biscayne
Boulevard? -the central business district, as we know it?
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Mr. Rodriguez: Hold on a second, let me get exactly...
Commissioner Plummer: Seventeenth Street, wasn't it?
Mayor Suarez: I thought it went pretty far up.
Mr. Rodriguez: Up to 6th Street.
Mr. Olmedillo: N.W. 6th.
Mayor Suarez: OK. I don't know if I'm the only person here that believes
that the central business district should extend to the Omni, but if the rest
of us believe that, we'd better start giving you some instructions on doing
that. Because otherwise, all of this transferable development rights is
unnecessary. It's a complicated mechanism, it's going to make work for
lawyers and architects and planners...
Mr. Rodriguez: And Commissioners...
Commissioner Plummer: Well, let me tell you where my concern is.
Mayor Suarez: No, not Commissioners. We don't want to have to decide
complicated things. If we can decide the things that people are concerned
about...
Mr. Rodriguez: No...
Mayor Suarez: ...they're obviously here on something other than transferable
development rights, right?
Mr. Rodriguez: ghat I mean by that...
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Mayor Suarez: Is anyone here on TDPs?
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Mr. Rodriguez: You have some people...
Mayor Suarez: Does anyone care about TDPs?
Mr. Rodriguez: You have some people in the back.
Mayor Suarez: TDRs? But you're the professional, legal and architectural
community. Presumably, you want to be able to develop, right?
Ms. Lynn Lewis: My name is Lynn Lewis. My address is 1101 Brickell Avenue.
I'm here before you as a member of the board of directors of the Brickell Area
Association, which is a neighborhood association which could use, in a
yielding capacity, or in a receiving capacity transferable...
Mayor Suarez: As transferrer or transferee?
Ms. Lewis: Correct and under the text of the ordinance, as it is written.
Mayor Suarez: Do you feel that you need in that area to be bound by a
transfer or if we set those very same criteria for allowing the increase
without having to lose anything in the transferrer location, wouldn't you
think that that makes more sense?
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Ms. Lewis: We think it is appropriate that there be a planning mechanism in
the case of this ordinance, it's a major use special permit, which will govern
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and check compliance with the neighborhood plan existing zoning and...
Mayor Suarez: We would keep that in place. It would always, if we allow any
increase of 25 percent I think is what the TDRs or whatever, we have to make
sure it's in accordance with the comprehensive master plan. We always have to
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do that.
Ms. Lewis: But not necessarily, Mayor, in the context of a major use special
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permit. We believe that the transferrer lots should be able to receive an
economic benefit. This ordinance has an...
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Mayor Suarez: You want to start buying and selling transferable development
rights so we have a whole new science and a whole new field of human
compensatory endeavor.
Ms. Lewis: We want to...
Mayor Suarez: We could make money off of it, in other words.
Ms. Lewis: The way this ordinance is written, Mayor, is that transferee lots
_Y be they in Brickell Avenue or be they in Wynwood, can benefit the owner who
has a property right, the market of which doesn't know... the market doesn't
know that. And so that transferrer owner can sell some of his rights. The
ordinance precludes him from disenfranchising his grandchildren because he can
_ only transfer a finite sum. We think that that is beneficial to development
Citywide, not necessarily limited to those areas that are very developed, like
the Brickell area associations' areas. We think that the ordinance, though
you're correct, complicated, spells out in detail what can be transferred and
how it can be transferred in a way that the Commission has regulatory and
supervisory control in addition to levels such as checking levels of service
—i! and compliance with the neighborhood plan.
Mayor Suarez: We have to do that anyhow. That is state law. It's a stupidly
written state law, but it's in the books. Inartfully, I'm sorry, strike
stupidly.
Ms. Lewis: The law respectfully does not go to the detail to which the major
use special permit application process does.
Mayor Suarez: No, it's not as complex as this, you're right. It's inartful,
but it's not as inartful as this. All right, you want it. Does anybody not
want it?
Commissioner Plummer: Well, my concern is in the area of the transfer
property.
Mayor Suarez: The one that gets the development right?
Commissioner Plummer: No, the one that actually sells his rights to someone
else. I am concerned about a rash of variances by future owners.
Ms. Lewis: There is a limitation in with regard to that in the text of the
ordinance.
Mr. Olmedillo: No variance.
Ms. Lewis: It precludes the...
Mayor Suarez: For how long?
Ms. Lewis: ...lot owner from coming in for a five year period.
Commissioner Plummer: But after a five year period, they can come in.
Mayor Suarez: She said five and went like this, meaning forever.
Mr. Olmedillo: For as long as the transfer is valid unless the City, itself,
changes the zoning on it.
Commissioner Plummer: Well, why wouldn't the City say, hey, no variances once
you make a transfer.
_ Mr. Olmedillo: As long as the transfer is valid, they can make no variances
on that particular issue if you sell...
Commissioner Plummer: Well, I'm going to ask you, because you're proposing,
at the same question that I asked Ms. Lewis. How does the City benefit?
Mr. Olmedillo: The City benefits two ways. One way is that contributions in
_ the fund so that development can be induced in other areas of the City which
do not receive the impact of economic.
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Commissioner Plummer: But they're not going to pay us.
Commissioner Alonso: Yes. _
Ms. Lewis: Yes, air. _
Commissioner Alonso: Yes.
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—=; Mr. Rodriguez: Six dollars and sixty-seven cents for a square foot. --
Commissioner Plummer: No, but - OK, that they'll get in some areas, not in
all.
Mr. Rodriguez: In any - no.
Ms. Lewis: No, sir, the...
Commissioner Alonso: Always...
Commissioner Plummer: In any transfer.
Mr. Olmedillo: Any transfer that brings development from a different zoning
district. If it's within the same zoning district, it's... _
Commissioner Plummer: OK, but the City does not participate in the monies -
that are paid from the transferee to the transferrer.
Mr. Olmedillo: That's a private transaction.
Mayor Suarez: We do get a small tax. What does that add up to? Just so,
because J. L.'s line of questioning is very interesting here. What is that
six sixty sum per square foot or whatever it was? What does it mean, in real
money, what are we talking about? Suppose I have...
Commissioner Plummer: How much are you transferring?
Mr. Rodriguez: If you move one hundred thousand square feet from...
Mayor Suarez: Give me an example - right.
Mr. Rodriguez: It will be six hundred and sixty-seven thousand.
Mayor Suarez: So we're charging a tax in effect, for that transfer, for that
transaction.
Mr. Rodriguez: That's a linkage.
Mr. Olmedillor, It's the linkage type of fee that we have and it's...
Commissioner Plummer: Where in the hell is there a 400,000 square feet that
this only 25 percent of a hundred applies to? What are you talking about, the
Omni?
Mayor Suarez: Yes, don't give me a ridiculous example now, give me - what is
a typical transfer that you might do here?
Mr. Olmedillo: You can buy from any area, let's say you can buy from East
Little Havana, if you wanted to, and transfer it to Brickell.
Commissioner Plummer: So what, in effect, you're doing is making a pocket of
overbuilding and a ghetto out of the rest.
Ms. Lewis: No, sir.
Mr. Olmedillo: Not overbuilding because we have to comply with the level of
service rules. One, two there are certain constraints on the yielding
property that if you sell 90 percent of the property then you must maintain
that as open space, accessible and you must maintain it in perpetuity in good
condition.
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Commissioner Plummer: Yes, like the people are supposed to maintain private,
undeveloped lots today that we have to send mowers in.
Mr. Olmedillo: But this is by covenant, no the City has instruments by which
we can enforce that condition.
Commissioner Plummer: Hey, look, you know, I'm telling you, we're dealing in
a new area, OK? And I don't know how many and the only reason that I am prone
to maybe vote for it, is for two reasons. One, each application has to come
before the Commission. Two, at the end of a year, if it's not doing what we
think that it should, we can change it. So that's the only reason that I'm
maybe thinking about voting for it.
Mayor Suarez: You know, the only way which this would make any sense for me
whatsoever is if there's a clear envelope of restrictions covering an area.
Let's say, an umbrella DRI in place. And you have within that district,
you're going to have a transfer so that neither one exceeds - so that with the
transfer, you don't exceed what has already been approved in terms of, you
know, the credits that we have for so many commercial square feet of space
versus residential, etcetera, etcetera. It would make some sense, in that
context.
Ms. Lewis: Well, Mayor, that might be fine were there a series of DRI orders
in place Citywide.
Mayor Suarez: Right.
Ms. Lewis: But what• one encounters now is the downtown DRI, which encompasses
the number of...
Mayor Suarez: Right, tell me about the downtown DRI. Why would this be
helpful to whatever you want to do downtown?
Ms. Lewis: It would be helpful to what developers and the City would...
Mayor Suarez: Other than as a linkage ordinance which I would design by
saying simply, if you want to increase your FAR by X amount, pay us X amount.
We'll take the six sixty-seven per square foot and we'll take some other
formula.
Ms. Lewis: If you will bear with me for just a minute.
Mayor Suarez: How does it apply to downtown? That's exactly what I want to
know.
Ms. Lewis: Well, use downtown as an example.
Mayor Suarez: Right.
Ms. Lewis: From the special public interest district in the Omni area
transferring floor area ratios for residential or for commercial purposes...
► Mayor Suarez: To downtown.
Ms. Lewis: The market won't demand it. They don't need it in the CBD. But,
j let's say, it wished to be transferred...
_ Mayor Suarez: Well, that was the example you were about to give me, downtown,
I was very interested because I didn't see how it could possibly apply to
downtown. Try another one then.
Ms. Lewis: I was going to move it from Omni to Brickell, to SPI-5.
Mayor Suarez: To Brickell.
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existing zoning ordinance, nor is it permissible under the...
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Mayor Suarez: So we're going to encourage, in that situation, assuming that
your hypothetical makes any sense at all. What would, otherwise, be a
s development ability in the Omni area to instead be in Brickell. Why would we
want to do that?
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Ms. Lewis: No, sir, it would be subject...
Mayor Suarez: You went to encourage development in the Omni area, not in
Brickell.
Ms. Lewis: OK, but it would first of all - let me correct you to tell you it
would be subject to the applicable land use restrictions in the transferee
area in Brickell.
Mayor Suarez: Oh, we certainly know that, that's why I don't think this whole
scheme makes any sense. If you want to increase your density by 25 percent
or, I guess, your parking, right? That's the other one? -it's density,
parking, what's the third one?
Mr. Olmedillo: Dwelling units.
Mayor Suarez: Or dwelling units. And you want to do it in an area that it is
within the comprehensive master plan, why didn't you just come and ask us for
it? We'll vote for it. I'll voto for it.
Commissioner Plummer: No, no, no. Better than that, why don't we collect the
money...
Mayor Suarez: Yes.
Commissioner Plummer: ...and not have the private sector make the money out
of it, let the City make the money?
Ms. Lewis: What's wrong with letting the private sector make some money?
Mayor Suarez: Why do we allow some person to sell development rights, make
money, and all we get is $6.67 per square foot? Why don't we just, that sum
amount, as a linkage ordinance is supposed to work and we get the money? .lust
like J. L. was saying?
Ms. Lewis: This ordinance does provide that you get money. It also returns
to the owner of the D developed lot.
Mayor Suarez: Right.
Ms. Lewis: The opportunity to make some return on his lot, that the market
doesn't address.
Commissioner Plummer: lie's not entitled to that, Lynn.
Mayor Suarez: Why should he get any return on something that is artificial?
There was something that we imposed probably, unwisely, at some point, as far
as I can tell.
Ms. Lewis: You have an existing transfer of development rights ordinance,
which has been under utilized. It does not presently provide for any economic
return to the City.
Mayor Suarez: So let's get rid of it.
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j Ms. Lewis: And what we are suggesting, our organization, others, and planning
department, are suggesting is that there can be an economic return to the City
for facilitating...
Mayor Suarez: Do you not believe that if you come to us - is that the
problem? -that if you come to us without this silly complex ordinance and ask
us for an increase in the areas that make sense to increase density, that
we'll give it to you? Do you not believe that?
Ms. Lewis: There is no precedent for you doing that other than your
assurance.
Commissioner Plummer: You don't read the Miami Herald.
Mayor Suarez: We've been saying it all morning in another case, the case of
Alandco, where they had four attorneys for Florida Power & Light. This in a
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subsidiary. I want all the people who are here to know this, this is a
subsidiary of Florida Power & Light. They had four high paid attorneys here
to convince us to increase density in an area that we are disposed to increase
it anyhow, right by the river. And, instead, they're paying four attorneys to -_
=a convince us to do something that is logical and then they're going to put that =_
in your power bill. Why are we creating these markets that are artificial by
A making our zoning code more complex when we, that are sitting up here are
,a telling you that we can barely deal with the existing zoning code.
Ms. Lewis: Mayor...
Mayor Suarez: Why isn't anybody listening to what we're saying? The business _
community - unless you don't believe that we're going to give you these -
variances - if whatever you call them, increases in development rights. We'll
give them to you in the central business district. We'll give them to you in —
Brickell. We'll certainly give them to you in the Omni area. In Brickell we have to watch our, you know, about traffic and resi...
Ms. Lewis: The only response that I would suggest to what you just said,
Mayor, is that that does not take into consideration the potential transferrer
lots. I'll take you're point that Brickell and Omni in this...
Mayor Suarez: I don't want give any benefits to somebody who has land in some
area that we're not going to develop and that the only way I can create an
incentive for them to develop it, is to give them money, such as we have done
in the Overtown/Park West area. That didn't happen because the planners
planned it. That didn't happen because of Herb Bailey, as much as I
appreciate it or Sergio Rodriguez, as much as I like him. That happened
because we put forty million dollars - I think forty-two million dollars of
subsidy and it's still marginally profitable. We're not sure people are going
to rent in Overtown/Park West.
Ms. Lewis: This ordinance puts months....
Mayor Suarez: I'm not voting for it. I'm sorry, you're not going to convince
me. I've gone through this before. I think you don't believe us that we'll
give you this without having to pay for it. And if they draft a linkage
ordinance that says, you come in here and ask us for an FAR increase in an
area that I will give to you anyhow, and you pay us some percentage of that,
as J. L. is saying so you don't have to pay the transferrer property, you just
pay us so we can use it for affordable housing for our citizens, I'il go along
with it, and I'll support it. Otherwise, all you're doing is making the
zoning code that much more complex and we've got one Commissioner who is still
in the Far East, who was sitting here who would vote against it automatically,
Miller Dawkins, simply because of the complexity of it and he's right to vote
against it. We cannot, as elected officials, be expected to apply something
that the citizens don't understand and that we don't understand. We're
failing our obligation as elected officials. We've been telling this to our
planning department since I was elected in 1985 and these people are probably
here for something that has to do with the neighborhoods, I bet. They're not
here about - I almost said the word - downtown or Brickell or the Omni. This
is one area where we all agree, folks, we agree that we want to protect your
neighborhoods and we agree that we want to let them, the developers and the
lawyers and the architects and the realtors, develop downtown and Brickell and
the Omni. So why can't we do it in a simple way? Why do we have to listen to
the planners who will just confuse all of this and make more money for the
lawyers and all the other people. That doesn't make any sense and I'm sorry,
I'm not going to vote for it.
Mr. Rodriguez: I think you don't like it.
Mayor Suarez: And I've studied it and I've studied it a lot and I've studied
the growth management legislation. I may be the only public official, with
the possible exception of the Mayor of Orlando, who understands it, Bill
Fredrick. And that doesn't make any sense. So I don't totally understand it,
I mean, I understand what they were trying to do.
Mr. Olmedillot Mr. Mayor, if I may continue then. That, it's a...
Mayor Suarez: You don't have to because I'm not going to vote for it and you
only got three up here unless you want a denial. So on to whatever the next
item is. Whatever these folks are here for, I'm sure they're here for
something important.
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Commissioner Alonso: No, no, just a minute. I want...
Mr. Rodriguez: We haven't finished our presentation.
Commissioner Alonso: I don't want them to...
Mayor Suarez: I'm sorry?
Mr. Rodriguez: We were going through the presentation and then...
Mayor Suarez: Right, so I mean, but on transferable development rights, you
haven't convinced me, you're not going to convince me. It doesn't make any
sense and I'm not going to make more work for attorneys and architects. And,
unless you get another vote, maybe Victor will vote for it, Commissioner be
Yurre.
Commissioner Alonso: I want to talk about R-3...
Mr. Olmedillo: If you'll allow me, what I would propose to you, just to keep
it generally and then go to the specific, is that I have...
Commissioner Alonso: Yes, and then I go back to this one.
Mr. Olmedillo: ...we have, that's generally what the ordinance is trying to
do. Nov, we have a list of concerns which were addressed, concerns expressed
to us by the coalition and as a result of that and as result of the PAB
recommendation to you, I've handed to you printout on a blue sheet and the
underlined portion is something that PAB asked us to submit to you as their
recommendation specific and on a specific issue.
Commissioner Plummer: Let me ask you a question. How the hell do you think
we're going to understand all of this, you hand it to us at the day of the
meeting?
Mr. 01medillo: This was...
Commissioner Plummer: You're talking about drag lines, Christmas trees, car
washes, helistops...
Mr. Olmedillo: No, no, no,no...
Mr. Rodriguez: No, no, no, no...
Mr. Olmedillo: No, Commissioner, you're looking...
Commissioner Plummer: Don't tell me no, no, no, I read the English language.
Mr. Olmedillo: No, the underlined portion only, the...
Mr. Rodriguez: The only amendment that the Planning Advisory Board changed to
the whole ordinance is what is underlined in the handout that you have.
Commissioner Plummer: You don't say that.
Mr. Rodriguez: That's what he just told you.
Commissioner Plummer: Why did you put all the rest of this garbage in here?
Mr. Rodriguez: So you know where it belongs. You don't want that by itself
without knowing what portion of the ordinance it was added. It's on page. 176
of the ordinance.
Mayor Suarez: What you're looking at looks like it deals with helistops, the
new provisions, right?
Mr. Olmedillo: Yes, right.
Mr. Rodriguez: That's what they added.
Commissioner Plummer: Because that's underlined.
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Mr. Rodriguez: That's what they added.
Mr. Olmedillo: Yes, but that's the only portion that you look...
Mayor Suarez: Is anybody here on helistops? Is there a single person here
that's interested in helistops? Do you know what a helistop is? I sure
don't.
Commissioner Plummer: That's once...
Mayor Suarez: All right, next item.
Commissioner Plummer: That's one step before heaven if you don't go to
heaven, you go to helisport.
Mr. Olmedillo: I'm just submitting, for the record, that the PAB asked us to
include in their recommendation to you, the helistop conditions.
Mayor Suarez: I'm really curious as to why the neighbors are here. They must
be here on something important.
Commissioner Alonso: We know, we know why they are here.
Mayor Suarez: OK, I'd like to know.
Commissioner Plummer: Wait a minute, let me ask about the helisport.
Mayor Suarez: You still care about the helistops?
Commissioner Plummer: Are the heliport, all of them, here have to come before
the City Commission for approval?
Mr. Olmedillo: No...
Commissioner Plummer: No?
Mr. Olmedillo: ...it's a public hearing, but not to the City Commission. It
may be appealed.
Commissioner Plummer: Then I won't vote for that.
Mayor Suarez: Before whom, Guillermo?
Mr. Olmedillo: The Zoning Board, but it may be appealed to you.
Commissioner Plummer: No, here.
Mayor Suarez: Make it an automatic appeal that it's finally decided by the
City Commission and he's satisfied. And you solve the whole problem. Why
don't you guys listen to the Commission?
Commissioner Plummer: Because if not, nett door we'll put one in and then I
got to suffer for it.
Mr. Olmedillo: City Commission....
Mayor Suarez: And we might not hear about it and somebody might not appeal
and all of a sudden we got a helicopter right next to our home.
Mr, Rodriguez: So that's one of the amendments that you're proposing tonight.
Mayor Suarez: Yes. And it's an amendment that...
Commissioner Plummer: No, no, not deny .hat it has to be a Commission action,
approval.
Mr. Rodriguez: I know, I'm saying that this is one of the amendments on the
zoning ordinance that has been proposed to you as amended by the Planning
Advisory Board that you're telling us tonight to amend the PAB proposal to
Include having to come before the City Commission. So we record that. When
you vote on that, we take care of that. Simple.
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Mayor Suarez: OR, What else are we doing?
Mr. Olmedillo: If you want, we have...
Mayor Suarez: You are going to get, sooner or later, to what they're here
for, aren't you?
Mr. Olmedillo: Yea, yes.
Mayor Suarez: What are they here for?
Mr. Olmedillo: Well, we have the atlas, also, which is the mapping of all the
districts...
Mayor Suarez: That reflects whatever changes we're making, that's not
controversial..
Commissioner Plummer: Are all of these people here for what portion?
Mr. Rodriguez: That's what they're here for.
Commissioner Plummer: For what portion?
Mayor Suarez: OK, what specific portion of the entire atlas? Don't tell me
about the atlas, I know there's always an atlas that goes with the zoning.
Commissioner Alonso: Twenty-second Terrace, they live in 22nd Terrace.
(Applause)
Mayor Suarez: OK, do we have an organized leader of the gang here that...
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: That's very important...
Mayor Suarez: Yes.
Mr. Don Deresz: Mr. Mayor, County Commissioners, my name is Don Deresz, I
live at...
Commissioner Plummer: County Commissioners?
Mr. Deresz: City Commissioners.
Commissioner Alonso: Please!
Commissioner Plummer: Get him sworn in.
Mr. Deresz: Id did this at 4:30 this afternoon, I'm sorry. City
Commissioners. My name is Don Deresz...
Mayor Suarez: Yes, you do have...
Commissioner Plummer: Have you been sworn in?
Mayor Suarez: By the way, you do have to be sworn in. This is somewhat...
Mr. Deresz: No.
Commissioner Plummer: So when you don't tell us the truth, we put you in
jail.
Mr. Deresz: Thank you.
Commissioner Plummer: But you'll be in good company with all the Sweetwater
Commissioners.
AT THIS POINT THE CITY CLERK ADMINISTERED REQUIRED OATH UNDER ORDINANCE NO.
10511 TO THOSE PERSONS GIVING TESTIMONY ON THIS ISSUE.
Mr. Deresz: Mr. Mayor, and City Commissioners. My name is Don Deresz, 1852
S.W. 24th Street. I'm president, this year, of the Silverbluff Homeowners
Association, which includes the new Shenandoah area. First of all, I do want
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to thank the Planning Department for their very professional and efficient ,job
that they've done in this entire process of creating the new zoning ordinance. _
However... -
Mayor Suarez: You brought a smile to his fare. After all this grief we're
giving him... right.
Mr. Deresz: They have done a marvelous job, they really have. Always
polite...
Mayor Suarez: You know, they're very good when they do what we ask them to
do. When they go off on these other things, tangents - go ahead.
Commissioner Plummer: Unfortunately, that's not very often.
Mr. Deresz: Our neighborhood is a quiet one consisting of homes owned...
Mayor Suarez: What is the title of the association?
Mr. Deresz: Silverbluff Homeowners Association. Our neighborhood consists of _
homes that are owned by hardworking people, some are retired Miami citizens.
And the people here are proud of our homes, remodeling and improvements are in
a state of constant activity initiated by the homeowners. This is a stable
neighborhood, not one in transition. The Silverbluff Homeowners Association
do recognize the need by the commercial interests for the SD--12 buffer overlay
district concept. And...
Mayor Suarez: SP-4 buffer overlay concept, is what you said?
Mr. Deresz: SD-12...
Mayor Suarez: SB-12...
Commissioner Alonso: No, SD, D like in day.
Mr. Deresz: SD, like in dog.
Mayor Suarez: SD - it sounds like an oil additive.
Mr. Deresz: Special - sorry.
Mayor Suarez: SD-12? What is it, please, somebody tell me?
Mr. Deresz: Too many workshops.
Mayor Suarez: I'm trying to understand this and I'm a lawyer and I have some
idea what the heck we're talking about. But not a heck of a... what is he
saying, Sergio? SD, what?
Mr. Rodriguez: SD, as in David, 12. A special district number 12.
Mayor Suarez: And, no, no, he also had overlay in there.
Mr. Rodriguez: Overlay district, they understand, you know. We have been
working with that on this. It's an overlay district.
Mayor Suarez: Pursuant to our instructions to simplify the code, have come up
with an SD-12 buffer overlay district.
Mr. Rodriguez: You asked us to look for a solution.
Mayor Suarez: We said, come up with R-1, R-2 and R-3
Mr. Rodriguez: If I may finish...
Mayor Suarez: ...meaning residential, low density, middle density, high
density. C-1, C-2, C-3, 0-1 office, you know, B-1, business, that kind of
stuff.
Mr. Rodriguez: Right. And then you asked us...
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Mayor Suarez: And you came up with an S-12 BD overlay, whatever, whatever,
whatever... all right, you're against it?
Mr. Rodriguez: No.
Mr. Deresz: Can I...
Mr. Rodriguez: May I finish your question, Mr. Mayor?
Mayor Suarez: No, you've already answered my question. You didn't do it the
way we wanted you to do it. We wanted something simple.
Mr. Rodriguez: You asked us also to do a buffer district to deal with the
issue of transitional. You gave us specific instruction and this is what we
propose.
Mayor Suarez: OR, what street is the one that was being proposed to
transition from?
Mr. Deresz: Well, there's several. The one that we're concerned about...
Mayor Suarez: That's what I mean, yes.
Mr. Deresz: ...is S.W. 22nd Terrace.
Mayor Suarez: I wasn't thinking of S.W. 22nd Terrace when I was thinking of
transitional zoning. I don't know if any other Commissioner was, i was
thinking of S.W. 8th Street and Flagler maybe and maybe, let's see, maybe
Biscayne Boulevard, I suppose. Major commercial arteries, not S.W. 22nd -
behind Coral Way.
Commissioner Plummer: Mr. Mayor...
Commissioner Alonso: But remember, they are behind, they... Mayor, they are
behind Coral Way.
Mayor Suarez: I wasn't thinking of Coral Way.
(Applause)
Commissioner Plunner: No, no, this came up...
Mayor Suarez: We changed - I want you folks to know - we asked for them to
change that because Commissioner Plummer, I think, was the one that realized
that every week we had an application from somebody behind Coral Way. So, a
year ago, one of us said, why do we have this every week? Why don't we,
instead, eliminate transitional zoning? Then a bunch of people from other
parts of the City came in a said, well, wait a minute, it makes sense in our
neighborhoods and we said, OR, now what do we do? Send it back to these guys
and now they come back and they still have Coral Way in there?
Mr. Deresz: Well, S.W. 22nd Terrace, yes, Coral Way.
Mayor Suarez: Yes, Coral Way, transitioning to the neighborhoods...
Mr. Robert Richardson: Mr. Mayor, how many of these people back up to that?
Mayor Suarez: I don't know. If they're not...
Mr. Richardson: On the north side of 22nd, there is very few.
Commissioner Plummer: Well, I still don't understand what we're doing here.
Mayor Suarez: You're in favor of maintaining transitional uses back there?
Mr. Richardson: Nobody questioned me about it.
Mr. Deresz: Are you in favor, sir, or against?
Mr. Richardson: My name is Richardson...
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Mayor Suarez: Well, why don't you come up to the mike? I mean, if we all
agree, what I'm trying to figure out is if we all agree, sir.
Mr. Richardson: I'm all for changing. We should have had what -- years ago we
had a...
Mayor Suarez; All right, I need you on the mike. We're going to hear from
you. Maybe you don't agree with the rest of the group. OK? But you can't do
it from there. You're going to have to get up to the milce, all right?
Mr. Deresz: Well, should I go on? I mean, basically...
Mayor Suarez: Well, in my case, you don't have to convince me.
Mr. Deresz: OK, well, let me state a couple of other points. See, we're for
the concept because the Commission already stated, I guess a year ago or
something like that, that there was a need.
Mayor Suarez: Not on Coral Way.
Mr. Deresz: But we didn't think there was a need on S.W. 22nd Terrace.
rurthermore, the increase in allowances for commercial building intruding upon
the residential lots, it's more than just for parking. It's also to increase
building into the residential area. We're merely create an increase, an
additional need for parking. So, ultimately, you're back in the same boat
again because you've got to find more parking, if they create more building.
e We don't want the proposed buffer overlay districts in our neighborhood.
Another reason not to want these is Coral Way, as you know, is an historic and
scenic corridor and if you increase the allowance for commercial building in
the areas I mentioned, you'll also increase the traffic on Coral Way and
create a negative an unwanted impact. Also, while I'm here, I'd also like to
ask that the property, which is two lots at 2000 S.W. 24th Street, which was
bought by the City as an urban park, be rezoned as a park on the proposed
atlas. Thank you.
Mayor Suarez: Thank you. Does anyone wish to express an opposing view, air?
Would you come up to the mike? He's got a right to express a view even if he
doesn't live there. Give us your name and address, please. You can...
Mr. Richardson: My name is Robert Richardson, I live at 2123 S.W. 22nd
Terrace for 34 years. And I back up to that property. It's been slowly
changing, there's some in there duplex and some triplexes in there snuck in.
Now, either we get it zoned right or, we go with what you got. But somebody's
not enforcing it.
Mayor Suarez: Suppose we stay with what we've got and we try to enforce it a
little better. Would you go along with that?
Mr. Richardson: Well, I don't know, but something should be done. We had a
buffer years ago between business and we had apartment zoning and then we went
into residential. I don't know whatever happened to that law because I built
for 34 years here in this County and I never heard that they'd changed it.
Thank you.
Mayor Suarez: Thank you. Yes, sir.
Mr. Jan Griffin: I'm Mr. Jan Griffin, I'm a realtor and I think...
Commissioner Plummer: Have you been sworn in, sir?
Mayor Suarez: Why don't we swear anybody who's going to testify or who
anticipates testifying on this, would you please raise your hand and be sworn
in.
AT THIS POINT THE CITY CLERK ADMINISTERED REQUIRED OATH UNDER ORDINANCE NO.
10511 TO THOSE PERSONS GIVING TESTIMONY ON THIS ISSUE.
Mr. Griffin: Jan Griffin, I'm a realtor, I'm active along Coral Way. I
generally think that the SD-12 proposal is a good one. It, in no way,
guarantees or paves the way for commercial development. All it does is give a
potential flexibility, it would still require the Commission ultimately, to
make the decision. It would require a hearing. And there are many
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situations - you've got a hodgepodge along Coral Way where you already have
lots in the rear being used, mostly for parking, and I think that's a,..
excuse me...
Mayor Suarez: Please, please, you had your chance to speak. Let him complete
what he's saying.
Mr. Griffin: If you'll drive in that area two or three blocks inland on both
sides of Coral Way, you'll see the cars are being parked on street and just
decimate the neighborhood. It might be a good vehicle to solve a parking
problem that is severe along specific areas that are intensely developed along
Coral Way. I'm not saying to allow commercial building, but, maybe, for
parking it may alleviate the problem that some of the homeowners are having.
So, generally, I support it and I think it's a good idea and I don't think you
lose control of the ultimate process of making the final decision. The
homeowners will certainly have their right to appear at that hearing. Thank
you.
Mayor Suarez: Yes, from our perspective, I do want to tell you that it means
hearing that many more cases and we really are trying to hold the line on
commercial encroachment.
Mr. Randy Simpson: Do you want to swear me in7 I announce my name first?
I'm Randy Simpson, I live at 2653 S.W. 23rd Street. No, but I will this time.
AT THIS POINT THE CITY CLERK ADMINISTERED REQUIRED OATH UNDER ORDINANCE NO.
10511 TO THOSE PERSONS GIVING TESTIMONY ON THIS ISSUE.
Mr. Simpson: So help me God.
Mayor Suarez: By telling us that you hadn't been sworn in, you're already
showing yourself to be so truthful, we almost don't have to swear you in. But
go ahead.
Mr. Simpson: Thank you. Well, I am also a realtor and I happen to own
several properties in the neighborhood and there are several concepts that
need to be made clear. When you have what we are considering here as
transitional zoning, which is basically what it boils down to and we talk
about parking, we first look at the example of the area that is immediately
west of 27th Avenue where those properties along Coral Way have been allowed,
on 22nd Terrace, to use that residential portions on the north side of 22nd
Terrace as transitional parking and supposedly, to be maintained as such.
They are an eyesore, they maintain them as an eyesore, the properties on the
south side of 22nd Terrace remain looking upon those properties as a negative
impact. If you have a stop gap across the street from residential property,
the ones that are going to suffer are the ones on the immediate south side.
The thing to do, when it comes to discussing parking and development, is to
require people who decide to develop Coral Way to provide adequate parking in
the initial process of the building.
(Applause)
Mr. Simpson: Good. What has happened, our neighborhood is tremendously being
impacted presently by buildings that don't have adequate parking. In fact,
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the neighborhood would like to see the Commission ultimately close the
neighborhood off to people from Coral Way and people from east/west traffic in
general and prohibit parking for daytime people in our residential
neighborhood. We come home in the afternoon and we can never even get into
our own driveways because people are parking there. Well, that's,......
Mayor Suarez: Does anyone here, other than the speakers that we've heard
from, in favor of the overlay district that we're referring to? Please, sir.
Do you want to come up to the mike and...
Ms. Sonia Tres Palacios: OK, my name is Sonia Tres Palacios. My parents have
lived there since 1968.
Mayor Suarez: What address?
_ Ms. Palacios: 2453 S.W. 22nd Terrace. OK, there is also a back alley in
between Coral Way and 22nd Terrace. So there's a lot of traffic in the back
Fi alley, plus the traffic that goes through 22nd Terrace, the parking, and I
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think it should be changed to make better parking and whatever, for their
businesses.
INAUDIBLE COMMENTS NOT ENTERED INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD.
Ms. Sheila Anderson: My name is Sheila Anderson...
Mayor Suarez: I thought you were Sheila, go ahead.
Ms. Anderson: Welcome back. I hope you had a good trip. I'm with Ross and
Associates. I'm also...
Mayor Suarez: Please, please...
Ms. Anderson: ...I'm also with the builders association of South Florida.
Mayor Suarez: And you were sworn in, right?
Ms. Anderson: Yes.
Mayor Suarez: Oh, you wouldn't tell a lie anyhow, so it doesn't matter.
Ms. Anderson: Well, I am sworn in, I'm also registered as a lobbyist for the
builders association so I could speak on their behalf today. As a realtor, my
understanding of the buffer districts and the reason I'm in favor of them is
exactly the problem of parking. If you plan a commercial building on any of
the existing lots in the City, the lots are just not big enough to allow
parking to get off the street. And it was my understanding of the district,
in concept, was that it would just provide a larger piece of land on which to
plan a building, get the cars off the street and allow...
Mayor Suarez: Couldn't we provide that by saying that on the principal lot,
the one right next to the main boulevard, let's say, Coral Way, in this case,
on that lot, you have to provide more parking and more buffer than you already
do. We could pass an ordinance that said that.
Ms. Anderson: Yes...
Mayor Suarez: Would the association be in favor of that?
Ms. Anderson: I don't see a problem with that except that if your lot is this
big and the building covers a substantial part of it...
Mayor Suarez: You'd be... right.
Ms. Anderson: ...you don't have room for the cars.
Mayor Suarez: Or, we could increase the PAR.
Ms. Anderson: That only makes the building bigger. Then you need more
parking spaces than what this really seems to address, as I understand it, is
to allow more room to get cars off the street.
Mayor Suarez: All right, so you would be in favor if we took the alternative
route of taking the lot that is adjacent. to Coral Way and saying, on there,
you must provide buffer and parking and everything else.
Ms. Anderson: If it's big enough and I think the problem is, and...
Mayor Suarez: And if not, you just can't build as much.
Ms. Anderson: But all of the City seems not to be big enough, is the problem.
And that's why there's parking all over.
Mayor Suarez: Then, you put a nice house on it.
Ms. Anderson: OK.
Mayor Suarez: Nice little single family home.
(Applause)
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Ms. Anderson: Where in the City are all of the people who live in these nice
houses going to get their container of milk or going to go to a dry cleaner or
going to get prescriptions filled if we don't have a store for them and the
parking?
Mayor Suarez: At the Farm Store on Coral Way, that's where you get it.
Ms. Anderson: But where is the Farm Store going to get the parking probably
is where we are, Mayor.
Mayor Suarez: They haven't come here asking for more parking.
Commissioner Plummer: If you go to the Farm Store on...
Mayor Suarez: In fact, a lot of those you drive through...
Commissioner De Yurre: You don't need parking.
Mayor Suarez: That's right.
Commissioner Plummer: I'll tell you, if you go to the Farm Store on Coral
Way, you'd better adequately protect yourself.
Ms. Anderson: While I have the microphone, then I'll sit down and be quiet
for the rest of the this session, the builders association thinks, in general,
this ordinance is a superb improvement of 9500 for all of the reasons
Guillermo explained.
Mayor Suarez: And is offering to pay the salaries of Sergio and Guillermo and
the whole staff, right?
Ms. Anderson: I can afford them, Mayor. And the Commissioners' salaries.
The rest of the people, I think, are vastly underpaid for the dedication that
they've put in.
Mayor Suarez: But really, the overall ordinance is an improvement?
Ms. Anderson: The overall ordinance - I've read ordinances around the state
and a lot of cities, and I can understand every section of this ordinance.
9500 was confusing in a lot of parts.
Mayor Suarez: You know how.our prior one came into effect? Somebody had the
brilliant idea - probably over Plummer's objection because it was many years
ago - of changing the ordinance from the old simple ordinance to a whole new
ordinance and they paid, if I remember the figure correctly, three hundred or
three hundred and fifty thousand dollars to some experts who promptly went and
copied classifications taken out of the HUD regulations and came back with
this incredible complex, unintelligible, messy ordinance that we're trying to
correct today.
Ms. Anderson: I think if you took...
Mayor Suarez: That's a true story.
Ms. Anderson: ...everything that is written just the way it is written now
and adopt it, that you'd find it works better for the City as a whole and then
if you went back to the atlas and judged each specific piece of property
individually as there may be some specific problems, that you will have a
better document and certainly a better City.
Mayor Suarez: Very good. Anyone else in favor of that particular overlay
district?
Commissioner Plummer: What do you mean, in favor, now? Let me understand.
Mayor Suarez: Of the SA-12....
Commissioner Plummer: As it is proposed to us here today.
Mayor Suarez: SBE...
Mr. Rodriguez: No D, as in David.
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Commissioner Plummer: Does it establish a buffer or it does not?
Mr. Rodriguez: You have two different actions. You have the ordinance, which
is a text, that established the buffer district and then you have the atlas
application. Some of these people which are here today are objecting to the
application in the atlas in a particular area of the City.
Mayor Suarez: Coral 'Way, basically.
Mr. Rodriguez: In Coral Way, in part of Coral Way. You don't have that
problem apparently as far as we know in other areas.
Commissioner Plummer: Well, as you know, I am - and brought before this
Commission before - I am totally opposed to transitional uses. Now, does this
allow a transitional use, as such?
Mr. Rodriguez: This address the issue that originally brought transitional,
use because what it would allow basically...
Commissioner Plummer: Does this...
Mr. Rodriguez: No.
Commissioner Plummer: ...allow the transitional use or a concept of the
transitional use?
Mr. Olmedillo: May I expand on that, Commissioner?
Mr. Rodriguez: We have to explain...
Commissioner Plummer: Well, you two get together.
Mr. Rodriguez: No, we have to explain.
Commissioner Plummer: ...Sergio, this is...
Commissioner Alonso: It's called buffer now.
Mr. Olmedillo: Two things, two things. The one that we proposed allows. One
is that you use it for parking under certain restrictions. You have no...
Commissioner Plummer: The back lot.
Mr. Olmedillo: Right, no access to the residential district. A wall, a 20
foot setback with a permanent covenant so that you provide maintenance for
that area and it's supposed to be landscaped.
Commissioner Plummer: And that district runs from where to where?
Mr. Olmedillo: From property line to property line.
Commissioner Plummer: No. From 12th Avenue to 37th Avenue...
Mayor Suarez: No, the district, the district.
Mr. Olmedillo: No, no, no.
Mr. Rodriguez: No, no.
Mr. Olmedillo: This is only on the specific areas.
Mayor Suarez: Describe the boundaries of the district in rough terms, please.
It's a very simple question answered.
Commissioner Plummer: Oh, OK.
Mr. Rodriguez: We have it throughout the whole City.
Mayor Suarez: This particular one that we're talking about on Coral Way, off
Coral Way. South of Coral Way, if you would. What Avenue to what Avenue,
roughly, Guillermo? Obviously, it doesn't go all the way into downtown.
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Mr. Olmedillo: No, no, it goes from about 17th westwardly.
Mayor Suarez: To where?
Mr. Olmedillo: To about twenty....
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: Nineteenth Avenue, 19th Avenue...
Mr. Rodriguez: Twenty-fifth, I think. Twenty-fifth.
Mr. Olmedillo: About 27th.
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: ...to 24th Avenue.
Mr. Olmedillo: But there are gaps on it.
Mayor Suarez: Roughly 19th Avenue to 24th Avenue.
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: No, 25.
Mr. Olmedillo: To about 27th.
Mayor Suarez: To 25th Avenue. The area where everytime we contemplate a
change of zoning, we get all the neighbors here who don't want their
neighborhood encroached on and we have to go through all...
(Applause)
Mayor Suarez: ...where Arsenio Milian livers, among others, and helped us
incorporate a lot of these associations. For all I know, Tucker Gibbs, my
future appointment to the Zoning hoard, you'll be happy to know. Why would we
even... Anyhow, does any Commissioner really want to consider this?
Commissioner Alonso: Yes, I'd like to make some comments. I think that maybe
this approach will work for certain areas and we should address that as a
solution to that area. What we are seeing here is very obvious, very clear, a
neighborhood that does not want this. We should listen to what they are
telling us, we should make the change, there is no problem in this in the
changes we are doing. We can change this, not have it in this area, move
along to some other areas that we can have it and it might be an effective
tool, something that will resolve the problem of the neighborhood and that's
how we have to work. We listen to the people of the area, we respond to their
needs and we make the changes accordingly to their needs and I think that
where we are seeing here, to me it's loud and clear. I think we have other
issues that we can address that we need changes that we have to instruct you
to go back and change it because I think it's wrong and you will come back to
us and we'll give the answer. This is a very serious and major change in the
City of Miami. And as such, it should be looked carefully addressing to the
needs of the particular area, looking at the needs of everyone concerned. I
feel very strongly, when it comes to certain areas of Coral Way behind Coral
Way, that the situation is terrible. It might be that in that area, the
neighbors feel it's best for them. Here, they feel very strongly. They don't
want this.
(Applause)
Commissioner Alonso: So, let's get rid of it. Sure.
Mr. Rodriguez: Commissioner, if you want to follow on that line of approach,
what you will like to instruct today, if you want to pass a motion or
something that on page 43 of the atlas, the SD-12 overlay district, which is
shown adj acent to the area of Coral Way, be removed from the atlas and that
will take care of your request.
Commissioner Alonso: Yes, I think so, I will make that motion and also I'd
like to say, according to what they have told me, there are no parking lots in
that particular area they have mentioned to me. There are regular single -
-= home. Why should we change that? Let it be as it is. They are happy with -_
what they have, let it be that way and if we have to address the problem in
�2 the future time, we will be ready to do whatever is necessary and provide the -
changes. So, let it be. Let's keep it this way, move to the other areas and -
.f take it as is needed.
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(Applause)
Commissioner Plummer: Second the motion. Hello?
Commissioner Alonso: We are less a Mayor. We got him back.
Mayor Suarez: I'll entertain a motion on this particular overlay district.
Commissioner Plummer: She made it, I seconded it.
Commissioner Alonso: But, listen, yes, I'm making a motion on this one. But =
I'm not certain of what is and maybe the attorney will let us know, what
approach do we take because, remember, I want to address this section of R-3.
Also, I'd like to address other areas of the City. I'd like you to do a study
in certain areas, for example, 36th Court, Northwest, and things like that.
Mayor Suarez: Yes, and as to the ordinance before us, there may be overlay =
districts that are intended to carry out what we used to call transitional
zoning that we want to approve even today. I presume that there's no
objections to them being on S.W. 8th Street and Flagler and some areas like
that and I presume that you have some of those, don't you?
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Mr. Rodriguez: Right.
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Mayor Suarez: And we can certainly vote on those. I just want to take item -
—
by item... _
Mr. Rodriguez: I understood, yes...
Mayor Suarez: ...approach here so that we can solve the problems of all the
neighbors here on the Coral Way.
Mr. Rodriguez: And there's in the motion of Commissioner Alonso to remove the
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SD-12 overlay district from page 43 of the atlas. As it is, the area that is71 =
adjacent to Coral Way.
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Mayor Suarez: The area is?
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Mr. Rodriguez: Adjacent to Coral Way, from 19 Avenue all the way to 25th. _
Commissioner Plummer: So, there's no proposed changes then from 12th Avenue
down to 19th Avenue?
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aMayor
Suarez; Off Coral Way?
Mr. Rodriguez: There is no - well, you are not addressing with this motion -
anything else where we have to...
Commissioner Plummer: But I'm asking, is there any proposed change for 12th
Avenue down to 19th Avenue?
Mayor Suarez: Off Coral Way.
Commissioner Plummer: In the property behind?
Mayor Suarez: What is that? Is that another overlay district?
Mr. Olmedillo; The area where the Parkway Theater is.
Commissioner Plummer: Well, that's a nonconforming use.
Mr. Olmedillo: And what we have proposed to you is a buffer district in the
northside which would be 21st, not 22nd Terrace, but 21st.
Commissioner Plummer: No, I don't want that.
Mr. Olmedillo: You don't want that?
Commissioner Plummer: No. Eliminate it.
Mr. Olmedillo: Fine.
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Commissioner Plummer: Now - OK, let's go
on down the street. Third Avenue,
what do you have anything on 3rd Avenue?
Mayor Suarez: No, no, she means the Coral
Way part that is at 3rd Avenue, no,
there's nothing there.
Commissioner Plummer: OK.
Mayor Suarez: Basically...
Commissioner Alonsoa This is 22nd Street.
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Commissioner Plummer: I would hope you
would amend the motion from 12th
Avenue down to, I guess, the City limits.
Mayor Suarez: Yes, to 37th, it looks
like. Amended, so amended and so
seconded.
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Mr. Rodriguez: So I understand correctly...
Commissioner Plummer: Both sides, of course.
Mr. Rodriguez: ...your motion, Commissioner, you're proposing to remove the
SA-12 all the way through in Coral Way, from 12th all the way to 37th... OK.
Commissioner Plummer: From 12th Avenue to 37th, which is as far as Coral Way
goes in the City of Miami.
Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded. It couldn't be simpler.
Commissioner Alonso: Wait, wait, wait a second. Let me see, let me see...
Mayor Suarez: Commissioner Alonso.
Commissioner Alonso: Let me see, why are we addressing that area that it's
not even included in what we have in front of us?
Mayor Suarez: Which one is that you're talking about? Show her exactly what
we're doing.
Commissioner Alonso: What we have here in front of us is from 25th Avenue and
we have it's, what? -18th Avenue?
Commissioner Plummer: No, because they've got it included.
Mayor Suarez: Because it's roughly the same thing, we're talking all the way.
Commissioner Plummer: Here, see the problem is here, here, and here...
Mr. Olmedillo: South and north... all the way
Commissioner Plummer: But, I'm asking is that it be extended...
Commissioner Alonso: Oh, I'm sorry.
Commissioner Plummer: ...from 12th Avenue all the way to the City limits on
both sides of the street.
Mr. Rodriguez: Well, Commissioner Plummer...
Mayor Suarez: You have, basically, residential areas on the north side,
residential areas on the south side, and a main thoroughfare which has
commercial zoning or business zoning or whatever you call it and we don't
think that it should encroach beyond the lots that have that zoning. It's as
simple as that. Very simple.
(Applause)
Mayor Suarez: OK, that's in the form of a motion and a second. You accept
the modification?
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Commissioner Alonso: No, no, no, I'm not sure I'm willing to go along with
that because I'm not certain what it is in the area. I don't like to vote in
a situation that I'm not certain what they have. It might be something that
this people who live in this neighborhood are certain what they are talking
about, about their neighborhood. But they might be addressing a problem and
the reaction of support it might be because of the situation, they have what
they need. But it might be that the people that are not present here that
live in a different area, might feel completely different and I don't like to
go just and say, yes, to something that it is not clear in my mind.
Therefore, I make a motion for this area and I support it with all my heart.
Mayor Suarez: Which would be west of twenty....
Commissioner Alonso: But in the others, I just can't because I'm not certain
of what is happening.
Mayor Suarez: OK, you're saying you'd like west of what? -west of 22nd
Avenue, is that what you're...
Commissioner Alonso: The area I'm addressing in page 43...
Mr. Rodriguez: Page 43.
Commissioner Alonso: I feel strongly about that. I make the motion and I
support their position and I think it's the right way to go.
Mayor Suarez: 17th to 27th is now back to being a motion so we can at least
take care of that and then we can discuss the other.
Commissioner Plummer: Fine, that's only...
Commissioner Alonso: I might be in support of that if I take a look and I'm
convinced that is the right thing to do, but not at this time.
Mayor Suarez: Good. All right, we have a motion and a second, the area
bounded roughly by 17th to 27th. I think we understand what it is. Call the
roll.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Alonso, who moved
its adoption:
MOTION NO. 90-79
A MOTION MODIFYING THE PROPOSED NEW ZONING ORDINANCE
FOR THE CITY OF MIAMI BY ELIMINATING THE SD-12 OVERLAY
DISTRICT FROM S.W. 22 TERRACE BETWEEN 17TH AVENUE AND
27TH AVENUE IN ORDER TO PREVENT COMMERCIAL
ENCROACHMENT IN THE RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Victor De Yurre
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner Miriam Alonso
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Vice Mayor Miller Dawkins.
Mayor Suarez: Now, on the area east of 17th, is there anyone that wishes to
be heard in favor of maintaining the proposed overlay district?
Commissioner Plummer: East of 17th?
Mayor Suarez: Right, that's what is the rest of the area that we're talking
about here.
Commissioner Plummer: If you don't preserve it now, you're going to lose it.
Mayor Suarez: For that matter, west of 27th Avenue to 37th.
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Commissioner Plummer: Well, Mr. Mayor, 7'm saying no more encroachment from
12th Avenue to 37th Avenue.
(Applause)
Commissioner Alonso: What page is that?
Mayor Suarez: Please. We have a pretty good idea of how most of you feel so
if you don't clap, it helps us.
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: If I may, I think might answer some of your questions
and some of your concerns.
Mayor Suarez: Not unless you're in favor of it. Thank you. Sir, were you in
favor?
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: In favor of what?
Mayor Suarez: Of maintaining an overlay district in those areas? I mean...
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: Not unless you're going to do it all the way across
Mayor Suarez: I'm heading in that direction to do it all the way across.
Just doing it step by step so...
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: Mr. Mayor, you've got MacDonald's parking lot down
there on 22nd Terrace.
Commissioner Plummer: What is?
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: You got a MacDonald's.
Comissioner Plummer: Sir, we can't do - we can't redo or legislate out
what's already there. If it is there legally today, we can't legislate them
out of business. We can make them a nonconforming use and if the day every
comes that they vacate for six months and a day, they lose their grandfather
clause. I'm saying, let's do what we can today to stop any further
encroachment. And I'm saying that from 12th Avenue to 37th Avenue, on both
- -
sides of the street. My area of concern, among yours, is the Miracle Center.
That is that area from 32 to 37th Avenue is going to be devastating. I'm
telling you. Just to give you an example, at the Miracle Center today, as
mammoth as that building is, you are only looking at one third of what is
approved for that piece of property. There is approval for two thirds more
than what is there today so what I'm trying to do by my motion, is to stop any
encroachment from 12th Avenue to 37th Avenue on both sides of Coral Way.
Mayor Suarez: Right. Ma'am. Please. Are you going to speak against what
the Commissioner just said?
Ms. Marilyn Ettlebloom: I just wanted to ask a question now. My name's
Marilyn Ettlebloom and I live on the south side between 25th and 27th Avenue.
Directly across the street from me, from 25th almost to 27th Avenue, the
property was bought up by Mr. White and there was supposed to be, it was
rezoned. We came here to fight against it, but we weren't successful.
Mayor Suarez: The old Mr. White approach.
Me. Ettlebloom: Yes, that's right.
Commissioner Plummer: Well, it was rezoned, but that was only a part of it.
Ms. Ettlebloom: OK, it's been...
Commissioner Plummer: There was a lot of other factors.
Ms. Ettlebloom: All right. They haven't done a thing in five years there.
Mayor Suarez: OK, we've got an ordinance for that. See, we got an answer for
everything. Didn't we just pass an ordinance recently that said, if somebody
had a zoning variance, whatever, that they had to start building...
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Commissioner Plummer: Eighteen months.
Mayor Suarez: ...in accordance within a certain amount of time or it doesn't
apply to aomething that happened five years ago?
Mr. Rodriguez: No, it's not retroactive then.
Mayor Suarez: Not retroactive. I guess we're afraid, if we try to make it
retroactive, of getting sued as expost facto law which the Constitution
specifically prohibits.
Commissioner Plummer: Well, what is your question in reference to?
Ms. Ettlebloom: What are they going to do with that property now?
Commissioner Plummer: Ask the property owner.
Mayor Suarez: This is the only time in my life I've ever thought about an
expost facto law.
Ms. Ettlebloom: Well, the only thing is, that Mr. White was - he claimed that
he was in bankruptcy...
Mayor Suarez: That's great.
Ms. Ettlebloom: And they were taker over by the government and now we just
this morning - it's strange, but just this morning, they came and cleaned off
the lot across the street from me. _
Mayor Suarez: They knew you were going to come to speak here so...
Ms. Ettlebloom: That's right. They knew I was coming.
Mayor Suarez: They were ready for you.
Commissioner Plummer: Hell, they're no dummies.
Ms. Ettlebloom: I want to tell you something. The mice have been running
over to my house and my cats been having a picnic.
Mayor Suarez: They're watching you with binoculars, you know. Well, anyhow,
there's nothing we can do about it.
Ms. Ettlebloom: There's nothing that can be re...
Mayor Suarez: Except to zone back the property and if you desire that, meet
with staff and see if...
Mr. Rodriguez: Or you can do, if you want to do that, Mr. Mayor, you can
instruct us to study that particular site, particular area...
Mayor Suarez: Could you do that?
Mr. Rodriguez: ...and come back with a recommendation to the City Commission.
You can actually do it today. Based on the atlas before you.
Ms. Ettlebloom: Can't you rezone it?
Mayor Suarez: You're really getting aggressive now, you want whsssst - wipe
them out today, right? Without them being here or anything like that.
Mr. Rodriguez: But, today is first reading.
Commissioner Plummer: Yes, what about your damn cat?
Mayor Suarez: You probably recommended in favor of it at the time.
Ms. Ettlebloom: She's marvelous because she catches all the rats.
Mayor Suarez: No, really, I don't think that would be due process. I think
we can instruct you to study and come back with a recommendation. How's that?
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Ms. Ettlebloom: OK.
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Mayor Suarez: You didn't think you were going to get that much today because
we're not here on that.
Ms. Ettlebloom: I know, but when I hear what you're doing for the rest of
them and I am left in the lurch...
Mayor Suarez: That's right. So you're riding piggyback with the rest of the
group.
Ms. Ettlebloom: That's right. That's why I came here, to help them. Maybe
that I could get some help too.
Mayor Suarez: And then, you figure you try to get your little bit in too.
Ms. Ettlebloom: That's right. You'd do the same thing, Mayor.
Mayor Suarez: Bye, bye. We're going to study it - yes, we're going to study
it and see, maybe we can do it.
Ms. Ettlebloom: I hope so. My husband and I approached you a long time ago,
but you said there was nothing could be done. We came to your office.
Mayor Suarez: Well, we're getting more and more creative in downzoning here.
We're going to get sued sooner or later for it, I suppose, but until we do...
Commissioner Alonso: I was going to say that, we will end in court.
Ms. Ettlebloom: Because they've ruined the neighborhood there.
Mayor Suarez: OK...
Ms. Ettlebloom: Thank you.
Commissioner Plummer: Look at all of the pretty carpets the guys selling on
the fence without an occupational license.
Ms. Ettlebloom: That's right, isn't it gorgeous? Isn't that beautiful?
Mayor Suarez: Yes, the rugs.
Ms. Ettlebloom: That's beautiful.
Mayor Suarez: You know, I don't even think they're very attractive, those
rugs, but...
Ms. Ettlebloom: No, they're not.
Commissioner Plummer: What would any of us do during campaign time? Where
would we put our political signs? You laugh, you just got elected.
Mayor Suarez: Pass the word in the neighborhood that anybody that puts
political signs there, you vote against.
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: I saw some of hers up there.
Commissioner Plummer: Yes, I saw one of yours there.
Mayor Suarez: Because they really mess up that neighborhood. All right, I'll
entertain a motion on the area now east of 17th and west of 27th.
Commissioner Plummer: No, no, no, I'm sorry. West of 12th Avenue to the City
limits.
Mayor Suarez; Yes, except that the prior motion only covers 17th to 27th,
didn't it?
Commissioner Alonso: Yes.
Commissioner Plummer: That one, we've already voted on that.
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Commissioner Alonso: Yes.
Mayor Suarez: I'm trying to cover the rest. Somebody give me the description
to cover the rest so we can get out of here and I can go home and rest.
- Commissioner Plummer: Twelfth Avenue west to the City limits.
Mr. Rodriguez: On both sides of Coral Way.
Commissioner. Plummer: Both sides of Coral Way.
Mayor Suarez: Other than the area we already voted on, I suppose.
Commissioner Plummer: Or - well, OK.
Mr. Rodriguez: Yes, it's OK.
Mayor Suarez: Or inclusive, doesn't matter. All right, I'll entertain a
motion on that. That's a good way to define it. It's what they call a lesser
included offense or something.
Commissioner Plummer: I moved it, yes.
Commissioner De Yurre: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded. Any discussions If not, please call the
roll very quickly.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved
its adoption:
MOTION NO. 90-80
A MOTION MODIFYING THE PROPOSED NEW ZONING ORDINANCE
FOR THE CITY OF MIAMI BY ELIMINATING THE SD-12 OVERLAY
DISTRICT IN THE AREA ALONG BOTH SIDES OF CORAL WAY
FROM 12TH AVENUE TO THE CITY LIMITS (37TH AVENUE) IN
ORDER TO PREVENT COMMERCIAL ENCRO.:CHMENT IN THE
RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner De Yurre, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Victor De Yurre
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: Commissioner Miriam Alonso
ABSENT: Vice Mayor Miller Dawkins
COMMENTS MADE DURING ROLL CALL:
Commissioner Alonso: I vote no because as I said before, I have to look at
the area as I'm not certain of what the situation in the different
neighborhoods and I just don't like to vote just like that without full
knowledge of what I'm doing. No.
COMMENTS MADE FOLLOWING ROLL CALL:
Commissioner Plummer: You'll have a chance to change on second, if you want.
Mayor Suarez: OK, what other areas shall we consider?
Mr. Deresz: Mr. Mayor, if I may, we also asked if, at this time, we could
rezone those two lots that the City bought on 2000 S.W. 24th Avenue into a
park.
Mayor Suarez: The old property that was supposed to have been demolished and
was never demolished and gave rise to a bunch of...
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Mr. Deresz: Right, and there are plans in the works to...
Mayor Suarez: ...neighborhood associations that are now driving us crazy.
Commissioner Plummer: Is it City owned property now?
Mr. Deresz: It is City owned property.
Commissioner Plummer: I so move.
Mayor Suarez: So moved. _
Commissioner Plummer: That it be changed to PR.
Mayor Suarez: Can we just do that like that?
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Mr. Rodriguez: Zoned to what?
Commissioner Plummer: PR. Public recreation. —_
Mr. Rodriguez: I think you can do it today, PR. -
Commissioner Plummer: That's what I just made a motion.
_ Commissioner Alonso: Second.
Mayor Suarez: And I just asked if it can be done, Commissioner Plummer.
Commissioner Alonso: Ia it legal? -yes?
Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded.
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Mr. Rodriguez: You might want to ask the... —
Commissioner Alonso: Let's do it.
Mr. Rodriguez: I would give you a legal opinion, and I shouldn't.
Mayor Suarez: The Assistant City Manager and planning director is suggesting =
- that we all to also get a legal opinion? Which is again what I asked. _
y Miriam Maer, Esq.: If the atlas was in front of the Planning Advisory Board �_
and was properly noticed to be considered by you today...
Mayor Suarez: Was it?
Ms. Maer: ...then I would say, yes, you can.
Mayor Suarez: I am not paid to know those things, you are. OK, we have a
motion and a second. Any discussion? If not, please call the roll.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved
its adoption:
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MOTION NO. 90-81
A MOTION MODIFYING THE PROPOSED NEW ZONING ORDINANCE
FOR THE CITY OF MIAMI BY CHANGING THE ZONING
CLASSIFICATION ON THE TWO CITY -OWNED LOTS AT
APPROXIMATELY S.W. 24 STREET AND 24 TERRACE BETWEEN 19
AND 21 AVENUES (GOLDEN ARMS) TO PR (PARKS AND
RECREATION).
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Alonso, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote:
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AYES: Commissioner Victor De Yurre
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner Miriam Alonso
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Vice Mayor Miller Dawkins
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Mayor Suarez: Now, did you ever think we were going to go back to a park
there when we started all of this? That's pretty neat. All right.
Commissioner Plismmer: Now, the neighborhood...
(Applause)
Commissioner Plummer: Now, I think the neighborhood has a responsibility, OK?
We did what you asked and we bought the property. I think now the
neighborhood needs to come together and put together a project to...
Mayor Suarez: To adopt a park.
Commissioner Plummer: ...beautify and to make that into a park area that's
your responsibility. Bring us a plan.
Mr. Deresz: Yes, sir, we've taken up the challenge.
Mayor Suarez: And there are some landscaping companies that are doing a lot
of business with the City. You might want to talk to some of them. One, in
particular, that comes to mind that did all this work around here...
Commissioner Alonso: Yes.
Mayor Suarez: ...is Ricardo Recio, R-E-C-I-O. Talk to Mr. Recio about some
donations.
Commissioner Alonso: Indeed, and it might be a very good gesture from that
company to come and do something in the neighborhood of Miami that really
needs the help and I'm making a suggestion that perhaps in a good gesture to
Miami, they'll do it, so we will have a beautiful park in that area.
Mr. Deresz: The Parks Department has already met with members of the
homeowners association and we hoped and we're talking about snaking that
particular area a zxeroscaped showcase. Zxeroscape is the in vogue way to...
Mayor Suarez: A what?
Mr. Deresz: Zxeroscape.
Mr. Rodriguez: Zxeroscape. Landscaping without water.
Mr. Deresz: That's a way of using plants that don't use a lot of water.
Mayor Suarez: How do you spell that?
Mr. Rodriguez: Z-X-E-R-O-S-C-A-P-E, zxeroscape. And basically, it's
landscaping that will use...
Mayor Suarez: There's two words that make that. What's the first word?
Mr. Rodriguez: Zero, but they use x...
Mayor Suarez: Zero? Like zero? Like when you call somebody zero?
Mr. Rodriguez: I know, but they use x.
Mayor Suarez: An x, like me?
Commissioner Alonso: hikes your.
Rodriguez: X like you.
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Mr. Deresz: Yes, exactly.
Mayor Suarez: I like it already. Zxeroscape.
Mr. Rodriguez: It's zero with an x.
Mr. Deresz: X-E-R-I.
Mayor Suarez: Xeriscape. I think you ought to drop that from your lexicon
and try something else.
Mr, Deresz: The South Florida Water Management District, that's the big thing
with theta right now.
Mayor Suarez: Ah, that was Arsenio Milian again, probably.
Commissioner Plummer: Take the water of the pool at Bayfront Park.
Mayor Suarez: Counselor, what brings you here?
Al Cardenas, Esq.: Mr. Mayor, members of the board, my name is Al Cardenas.
I'm here on behalf of Armando Leon and Carol Fennert and a group who are
owners of properties located on the Miami River between 22nd and 27th Avenues.
Mayor Suarez: You don't happen to live in Sweetwater, by any chance, do you,
counselor?
Mr. Cardenas: No, I've been asking the same questions you have. But I'd like
to distribute the copy of the City atlas, we've marked in yellow the
properties in question.
Mayor Suarez: It's that kind of a day. What do you want with this WF-R/7?
Mr. Cardenas: Right. The City master plan and proposed ordinance are calling
for this property to be zoned duplex. The 8 property owners on the properties
which are marked in yellow would like to retain what we've always had and that
is a WF•1/7 zoned property.
Mayor Suarez: Why do you say WF-1/7? That was the prior classification?
Please)
Mr. Cardenas: The WF-R/7 was the prior classification that the City had done
recently away with in its new comprehensive master plan. In reviewing the new
proposed ordinance, these owners came about the realization that that had
recently taken effect. I would like to ask those owners of this property in
this area to please stand up so they know who you are.
Commissioner Plummer: They've been here before.
Mr. Cardenas: Right. Now...
Mayor Suarez: Is there anyone that is against the proposal being made by the
well dressed attorney up there? I don't even want to state what it is, so
it's easier to identify you.
Mr. Cardenas: Thanks.
Mayor Suarez: And we sort of personalize the issue. I don't have any problem
with what they're requesting unless you do.
Commissioner Plummer: I'll make a motion that we let the property remain as
waterfront property.
Mr. Rodriguez: Before you do that, I believe that in taking an action on or
in the comp plan amendment you zone...
Mayor Suarez: Will require us to amend the comprehensive plan...
Mr. Cardenas: Right.
Mayor Suarez: ...which we're allowed to do twice a year.
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Mr. Rodriguez: Right.
Commissioner Plummer: We'll do it at such time as we can.
Mr. Cardenas: Thank you. Also, just specifically, Mr. Plummer and...
Mayor Suarez: When was it submitted? Wait a minute, Al, when was it
submitted? -that the year began to run?
Mr. Olmedillo: We plan to submit this by April of this year.
Mayor Suarez: When was the comprehensive plan submitted?
Mr. Olmedillo: September 188.
Mayor Suarez: Have we modified it since then?
Mr. Olmedillo: Yes, we have run amendments.
Mr. Cardenas: Yes.
Mayor Suarez: I thought we were limited to two a year.
Mr. Olmedillo: To two a year when it's a major change. Remember that we have
up to five...
Mayor Suarez: OK, have we had one major change yet?
Mr. Olmedillo: Yes, we did burn our opportunity so far, so...
Mayor Suarez: Both?
Mr. Olmedillo: Yes, the next one we're looking into.
Mayor Suarez: Thank you. So, we have to wait till April to complete this
process.
Mr. Olmedillo: Yes, sir.
Mayor Suarez: Thank you. All right...
Mr. Cardenas: Mr. Mayor, specifically, the zoning that we're looking for is
the SD-4 waterfront district which is section 604 in your proposed ordinance.
Commissioner Plummer: That's not my motion. My motion is to leave it as it
is, waterfront R-7. That's what it is now.
Mr. Cardenas: There is no such category now.
Commissioner Plummer: Well, what is it now?
Mr. Olmedillo: You would have to instruct us...
Mr. Cardenas: Duplex zoned.
Mr. Olmedillo: You would have to instruct us to create a district
specifically for this area, an SPI concept, for this area.
Commissioner Plummer: My understanding is, they're asking that it be left
what it is.
Mr. Cardenas: What?
Mr. Olmedillo: But if you adopt the new ordinance, there is no corresponding
- - zoning district for that particular one.
Mayor Suarez: We've eliminated that classification is the problem.
Mr. Cardenas: Right. So_
Mr. Olmedillo: We've eliminated it.
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Commissioner Plummer: All right, so what would we do now?
Mayor Suarez: What do we call it?
Mr. Cardenas: SD-4.
Mr. Olmedillo: You have two options. One, you call it SD-4...
Mayor Suarez: Give us one that works, don't get complex here.
Mr. Cardenas: Certainly.
Mayor Suarez: Give us one that works. --
Mr. Olmedillo: A special waterfront district, which we have in the new
ordinance or you...
Mayor Suarez: Great, what ... that's the motion then.
Mr. Olmedillo: Or you may instruct us to create a special district for that.
Mayor Suarez: No, no, no, don't complicate things.
Commissioner Plummer: No, that's it.
Ms. Carol Fennert: No, we're not, you don't understand. Listen, since this -
zoning has been eliminated and our area is next adjacent to waterfront _
industrial, which will restore the value that we have lost with losing
waterfront recreation zoning, we are perfectly willing to have this. In fact,
we would prefer it. It would make us...
Mayor Suarez: Are you arguing in favor of what we're about to do?
Ms. Fennert: You are making a.... all right.
Mayor Suarez: Because, see, not only are you taking up our time when we're
about to do what you want but you were not sworn in, we don't know your name. _-
Mr. Cardenas: She's with us.
Mayor Suarez: The transcript is now more difficult to put together. We don't =_
like you.
Mr. Cardenas: She's a nice lady by the name of. Carol Fennert, she's...
Mayor Suarez: Thank you, counselor. Miss Fennert's remarks, obviously, are
presumably correct and under oath and so on.
Mr. Cardenas: Right. Right.
Mayor Suarez: Anyhow.
Mr. Cardenas: We would like for this property...
Mayor Suarez: Why are you talking any more? Can't we just get this vote
done?
Mr. Cardenas: Right.
INAUDIBLE COMMENTS NOT ENTERED INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD.
Mayor Suarez: What's your problem?
Mr. Olmedillo: Just one problem that I want to make them aware of. The SD-4
prohibits housing as a permitted use so the houses would be nonconforming.
Mayor Suarez: Houses are prohibited?
Mr. Olmedillo: No, are not permitted within the special district, the SD-4.
Commissioner Plummer: You couldn't build a new house.
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Mr. Olmedillo: They have houses there in combination with other uses.
Mr. Cardenas: Make it a permitted use. I mean, who can speak against houses
there?
Mayor Suarez: Why would we prohibit houses?
Commissioner Plummer: Well, you can speak against houses when you're talking
about waterfront industrial uses.
Commissioner De Yurre: Without cooking.
Commissioner Plummer: Houses are not compatible to an industrial. area.
-1 Mayor Suarez: In cumulative zoning, which we hoped that we were going to
—i have, you can have all the lesser uses included and housing is the least
whatever the term is.
Mr. Olmedillo: We tried and tried, Mr. Mayor, but they're so incompatible...
Mayor Suarez: Couldn't do cumulative zoning, could you?
Mr. Olmedillo: ...incompatible uses sometimes that we have to weed out.
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Mayor Suarez: All right, any solution to that, counselor? Is that something
your clients are interested in too?
Mr. Cardenas: Houses as a special exception, I mean.
Mayor Suarez: I don't see any problem with that.
Commissioner Plummer: No, I do. No, I got a problem with that.
Mr. Olmedillo: Maybe an accessory use.
Commissioner Plummer: I cannot sit here and vote to put housing in an
industrial section.
Mayor Suarez: As an accessory use...
Mr. Cardenas: Waterfront, waterfront, not everywhere. But this is an the
waterfront district only.
r Commissioner Plummer: Al, in an industrial type of zoning, houses are not
--� compatible.
Mayor Suarez: Why not, why not? Why not, if you want to build a house and
then...
Commissioner Plummer: Industrial?
Mayor Suarez: If you want to build a house, you may, eventually, change the
area and the industry might go away and you might have a nice residential...
Commissioner Plummer: Well, I would be opposed to such, Mr. Mayor. I'm in
favor of the industrial for this area and the houses that are there presently
are grandfathered but to put any new houses in that area, I think, I just
can't imagine anybody wanting to put a house in an industrial area.
Mr. Cardenas: Well, they're there now.
Commissioner Plummer: Well, fine, then, let's just make it all residential.
Mr. Cardenas: They don't care. I mean...
Commissioner Plummer: No, make it all residential, not industrial.
Mr. Cardenas: No.
Commissioner Plummer: Not waterfront, just make it housing.
Mr. Cardenas: No, that's what they're opposed to, all of the owners.
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Commissioner Plummer: You can't have your cake and eat it too. -
Mr. Cardenas: OK, let me propose two suggestions. One is...
Mayor Suarez: I thought you said three with your fingers, now don't confuse �-
us.
Mr. Cardenas: Oh, yes, three... OK...
Mayor Suarez: Be careful which one you eliminate now.
Mr, Cardenas: That's right. The one, of course, is to create a category
Which was in keeping with the one that they always had and that was the
equivalent of the WF-R/7. The second one is, to have an SD-4 waterfront —
industrial district and have a housing there, a residential, as a permitted _=
use or as a special use in it or the third one is to just call it SD-4 and
they're willing to forego the residential activity. _
Commissioner Plummer: I'll go for the latter. It's a motion, my motion.
I've already made a motion to make it SD-4, but I'm not going to tolerate
housing in residential, it doesn't make sense.
Mayor Suarez: I'm hearing SD, but you're saying SB, right?
Mr. Olmedillo: D, special district.
Commissioner Plummer: D as in David.
Mr. Olmedillo: Special district.
Mr. Cardenas: SD-4, right.
Mayor Suarez: What was the other overlay that we were talking about?
Mr. Olmedillo: Special public interest which was different, that was the
concept.
Commissioner Plummer: One more overlay.
Mr. Rodriguez: The one that we had before, the one was SD also. It's the
same classifi...
Mayor Suarez: And what does it mean? -SD?
Mr. Rodriguez: Special district.
Mayor Suarez: Why do you have the SD? Why don't you just say overlay
district, if it's an overlay district?
Mr. Rodriguez: Because in some cases, there are overlay, in other cases,
there are not.
Mayor Suarez; They're underlay.
Mr. Rodriguez: They are typical zoned for the whole area.
Mr. Cardenas: SD-4 is fine.
Mayor Suarez: What is the young attorney that used to work for us doing over
there?
Mr. Cardenas: She's doing fine.
Mayor Suarez: Greenberg Traurig did not take her to work...
Mr. Cardenas: Yes, yes we did.
Mayor Suarez: After the lunch that I saw you two having over at Brickell
Club, huh? Is that we lose our attorneys to Greenberg Traurig?
Commissioner Plummer: Who did you steal now?
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Mr. Cardenas: Adrienne, over here.
Mayor Suarez: Would you please stand up and be recognized as our former
assistant city attorney?
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Commissioner Plummer: I lost my redhead?
Mayor Suarez: Yes.
Commission Alonso: Yes.
Mr. Cardenas: Yes, sir.
Commissioner Plummer: She's working for you? --
Mr. Cardenas: Yes, sir.
Commissioner Plummer: Ho, ho, ho, ho... —
Mr. Cardenas: I know as kind a man with the vision you have here.
Mayor Suarez: As long as you're hiring attorneys, do you want ::o hire him?
Mr. Cardenas: He's found a great place to be.
Mayor Suarez: No, this guy here. He's the attorney.
Mr. Cardenas: That's what I mean.
Commissioner Plummer: Wait a minute, I'll offer you both.
Mayor Suarez: For the appropriate amount of money, I will go work for you -_
guys and stop being Mayor, how's that?
Commissioner Alonso: What's going on here?
Commissioner Plummer: And I'll guarantee you, I can raise it.
Mayor Suarez: OK. We're accepting contributions. All right, is that
agreeable, J. L.? Are you going to...
Commissioner Plummer: SD-4, yes. —
Mr. Cardenas: Yes, air.
Mayor Suarez: In the form of a motion, do we have a second?
Commissioner Plummer: Yes, sir. _
Mayor Suarez: Call the roll.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved
its adoption: _
MOTION NO. 90-82
A MOTION MODIFYING THE PROPOSED NEW ZONING ORDINANCE -_
FOR THE CITY OF MIAMI BY CHANGING THE ZONING
CLASSIFICATION IN THE PARADISE POINT AREA AT THE MIAMI -_
RIVER, N.W. 18TH TERRACE FROM 24TH AVENUE TO 27TH
AVENUE TO SD-4 (SPECIAL WATERFRONT DISTRICT).
Upon being seconded by Commissioner De Yurre, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote:
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AYES: Commissioner Victor De Yurre
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner Miriam Alonso
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Vice Mayor Dawkins.
Mayor Suarez: What else do we got?
Mr. Cardenas: One more item is Miami Jewish Horne matter. This is property
located on 51st Street.
Mayor Suarez: What do you need on that? I'm aware of that facility.
Mr. Cardenas: Right.
Mayor Suarez: I think the rest of the Commission is.
Mr. Cardenas: OK, we need the master plan designation for Mayor that
indicates major public facilities and which is fine. We want to change the
current zoning which is CG-2/7 which does not permit the activities that are
necessary for the ongoing activities of the Miami Jewish Home. We want you to
change it's proposed zoning designation to IG, which is consistent with its
new master plan designation....
Commissioner Plummer: What is IG?
Mr. Cardenas: ...and which would permit... IG...
Mayor Suarez: IG.
Mr. Cardenas: Yes. Institutional.
Commissioner Plummer: You know, I want to tell you something.
Mr. Cardenas: That's institutional, not industrial.
Mayor Suarez: IG.
Commissioner Plummer: What... no, no, no, I'm not finding fault with you.
Mr. Cardenas: Oh, OK.
Commissioner Plummer: What in the hell have we done to simplify this thing?
Mr. Olmedillo: I is a simple letter, one letter, I, institutional.
Commissioner Plummer: Yes...
Mayor Suarez: It's never been used in that way.
Commissioner Plummer: What's G?
Mr. Olmedillo: How much simpler? Yes.
Mayor Suarez: In zoning, it's always I has always been. industrial.
Commissioner Plummer: We've always had industrial...
Mr. Olmedillo: That's why...
Commissioner Plummer: ...1, 2 and 3.
Mr. Olmedillo: Slash G, institutional and/or government.
Mayor Suarez: Wow.
Mr. Olmedillo: And it's a simple way of calling it.
Mr. Cardenas: Institutional government.
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_ Mayor Suarez: I think we have failed in the effort of trying to simplify
this, but I suppose it's better than it was before. So, V ll entertain a
:lotion on it, J. L.
Commissioner Plummer: Wait a minute, but. I got to know what will IG allow the
Jewish Home to do that they can't do today?
Mayor Suarez: Good question.
Mr. Cardenas: Basically, what you're doing is, you're combining five existing
zoning categories into one.
Mayor Suarez: Which are?
Mr. Cardenas: Which are...
Commissioner Plummer: Good question.
Mayor Suarez: Why did you start talking if you didn't know? What are they?
Mr. Cardenas: .... there are five, they're...
Mayor Suarez: We need somebody who can answer our questions, he wants to know
what things would be permitted. Somebody?
Mr. Olmedillo: The property, as they have it laid out...
Mayor Suarez: I liked the way he was starting, Guillermo. Can you finish the
statement of what uses would be permitted, that's what the Commissioner would
like to know and I would too and the rest of the Commission.
Mr. Olmedillo: Any institutional uses like schools...
Mayor Suarez: What are the five categories unless...
Mr. Cardenas: I'll tell you what they are if you want me to.
Mr. Olmedillo: Like schools, churches, hospitals, that type of use.
Commissioner Alonso: Where is IG? I don't have it here.
Mayor Suarez: Well, are there a discreet number? -five as he's saying, or
not?
Mr. Olmedillo: Yes, there's a discreet number in that definition, within the
definition of the...
Mayor Suarez: And what are they? You said three. I don't want you to say
three and others like it, because for all we know, one of them is a factory or
something that we don't...
Mr. Cardenas: OK, we have CR-2/7, RG-3/7. We have RG-1/3, RG-2/5, and RS-
2/2. Those are the five categories that are in the current parcel.
Commissioner Plummer: Which are currently existing there today.
Mr. Cardenas: Yes, sir.
Commissioner Plummer: With no problem.
Mr. Cardenas: No, we have a problem because, for example, like the thrift
store, which is part of what the elderly make in their rehabilitation and so
forth, second hand goods. They can't do that under its current zoning
-�' classification- The parking that we want, in order to have the one complex,
can't be permitted because you're taking away that transitional use situation.
So, in order to comply...
Mayor Suarez: Also, when you were saying five, you were saying that there
were five existing different kinds of uses that you'd like to be able to
retain.
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Mr. Cardenas: Yes, there are five existing zoning classifications...
Mayor Suarez: Or zoning districts...Wow.
Mr. Cardenas: ...within the complex. They're within the property owned by —_
the Miami Jewish Home Center and we would like to, because to clean it all
off, we would like to fall... we are already within your use designation by
the master plan which is fine, if you're...
Mayor Suarez: We know all of that. What tie's concerned about is opening a -
crack here that allows some successor agency or even the Miami Jewish Home to
build something there that we wouldn't want.
Commissioner Plummer: I would not, Mr. Mayor, I would not be in accord with
this at this present time without the planning department studying it and
letting us know what ramifications. A great deal of that property touches on
single family homes... —
Mr. Cardenas: Yes, air.
Commissioner Plummer: ...and I don't know what that would do to single family
residents around that area. I could not vote for it without the planning
department coming back with a recommendation. —
Mayor Suarez: Do you want to study it and give us a...
Mr. Olmedillo: Second reading...
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: They have a recommendation...
Mr. Cardenas: They have recommended in favor of this.
Mayor Suarez: What is a nice simple thing to do with it that protects us -
protects the neighborhood and so on? -
Mr. Olmedillo: One of two ways of doing it is that you either...
Mayor Suarez: You always give me two. Why don't you just give me one, go
ahead.
Mr. Olmedillo: By second reading, we'll have the report to you and you will
be able to do the change as they seek, if you see it necessary.
Mayor Suarez: I have no problem with that.
Mr. Cardenas: We've met with staff at length.
Mayor Suarez: OK. Go for that.
Commissioner Plummer: That's fine. I'll go with it.
Mayor Suarez: OK, as to the first reading, how do we define the motion then?
Commissioner Plummer: For this here? I'll move that this be sent to one
classification of IG.
Mayor Suarez: OK, so moved.
Commissioner Alonso: Yes, I second.
Mayor Suarez: Seconded.
Commissioner Plummer: And I have reservations in doing it, but so that we can
get it under the study for second reading, I'll go along with it.
Mayor Suarez: OK, so moved and seconded. Any discussion? If not, please
call the roll.
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The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved
Its adoption:
MOTION NO. 90-83
A MOTION MODIFYING THE PROPOSED NEW ZONING ORDINANCE
FOR THE CITY OF MIAMI BY CHANGING THE ZONING
CLASSIFICATION FOR ALL THE MIAMI JEWISH HOME &
HOSPITAL FOR THE AGED PROPERTY LOCATED IN THE AREA OF
N.E. 2 AVENUE AND 52 STREET FROM CG-2/7 TO G/I.
(GOVERNMENT/INSTITUTIONAL); FURTHER INSTRUCTING THE
PLANNING DEPARTMENT TO CONDUCT A STUDY OF THE AREA AND
BRING BACK A RECOMMENDATION AT THE TIME OF THE SECOND
READING OF THE NEW ZONING ORDINANCE.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Alonso, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Victor De Yurre =
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner Miriam Alonso
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Vice Mayor Miller Dawkins
Mayor Suarez: OK, you finished?
Mr. Cardenas: Thank you, sir. Yes, sir.
Mayor Suarez: Made your money for the day.
Mr. Cardenas: Yes.
Commissioner Plummer: Oh, has he made his money for the day and then, some.
Mayor Suarez: He got nervous and dropped some papers.
Ms. Louise Bauer: Mr. Mayor and Commissioner, my name is Louise Bauer and the
property address is 533 N.W. 2nd Avenue.
Mayor Suarez: Bauer?
Ms. Bauer: Bauer.
Mayor Suarez: As in Max Bauer?
Ms. Bauer: Right.
Mayor Suarez: What are you looking for? Is it for that property?
Ms. Bauer: Yes, it pertains merely to the square block of...
Mayor Suarez: Where the...
Ms. Bauer: On the Planning Advisory Board meeting of January the loth, 1990,
it was passed unanimously to amend the Miami neighborhood plan and zoning
atlas to retain the original zoning.
Mayor Suarez: Which was?
Ms. Bauer: It was CG-2/7. And this is consistent with Public Storage which
is primarily the largest property owner there.
Mr. Olmedillo: Again, we had the comp plan problem. What we can do is go
back and amend the comprehensive plan and give Mrs. Bauer...
Mayor Suarez: In April we send it up. And in April we send it up?
Mr. Olmedillo: Yes.
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Commissioner Plummer: Wait a minute, excuse me. You're no longer using that
facility for storage. You vacated that property.
Ms. Bauer: I don't own that. I own something else on that square block and
there is also another property owner, Mr. Rattner, who's also on that square
block, who...
Commissioner Plummer: Does that same classification apply to the back side? -
because that's apartment houses.
Ms. Bauer: Right, it would be the entire block would be uniform.
Commissioner Plummer: Is that really what we want in that area? I mean,
that's contiguous to the Overtown...
Mr. Olmedillo: We classify it as CR for restricted commercial. What Mrs.
Bauer wants, it's a more liberal district, a CG or a general district. We...
Commissioner Plummer: That's what I'm asking. Do we want warehouses in the
Park West area?
Ms. Bauer: Commissioner Plummer, that is not my property, but it's already -
that building is under construction.
Commissioner Plummer: What building?
Ms. Bauer: The public storage building. It was purchased, I imagine, a
couple of years ago and I'm not the owner of it, but it's definitely
commercial general.
Commissioner Plummer: Well, why would we... no, the question I'm asking is,
why would we want to enhance or further the warehouse to the 6th Street side?
Mr. Olmedillo: We don't want that.
Co=issioner Plummer: Well, I think that's what she wants.
Mr. Olmedillo: Yes, but that permit was issued prior to the changes.
Commissioner Plummer: My point is...
Ms. Bauer: What actually happened is we did - the property owner's did not
initiate the change, it was an error because of a property association and
they did not - it was the Park West...
Commissioner Plummer: That's not my point. My point is, what you're asking
us to do, as I understand it...
Ms. Bauer: Yes.
Commissioner Plummer: ...is allow public warehousing on the 6th Street side
to make zoning that would allow that.
Ms. Bauer: No, no, no. Not at all public warehousing at all.
Commissioner Plummer: Well, what are you...
Ms. Bauer: I'm merely - what had happened was the Park West civic association
had asked for some changes...
Commissioner Plummer: Correct.
He. Bauer: And our block did not go along with the changes and,
inadvertently, it was encompassed in the change. The Park West has no
objection to it. The Planning Department has no objection to it and nobody in
the neighborhood has any objection to the retention of the original CG.
Commissioner Plummer: Speak to it.
1 Mr. Olmedillo: When we went for the comprehensive plan land use designations,
we assigned a restricted commercial use following directions from this
Commission, that all of that area should be taken to a mixed use type which
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will allow housing and retail. You may remember that back in September of
,as.
Commissioner Plummer: Are you in favor of what she's recommending?
Mr. Olmedillo: What I'm saying to you is, that we recommend that otherwise. -
She wants a more liberal district.
Commissioner Plummer: Well, she's not entitled to it.
Mr. Olmedillo: I'm not saying she's entitled to, what I'm saying is that the
PAB recommended for it. It's up to you to instruct us to come back with a
plan amendment...
Commissioner Plummer: What are you recommending?
Mr. Olmedillo: That it remain the way it is.
Commissioner Plummer: And that is?
Mr. Olmedillo: Restricted commercial.
Commissioner Plummer: OK.
Ms. Bauer: Guillermo, I understood that you told me that you had no objection
to the retention of the original zoning because it was the error of the firm
that worked with that other thing. I mean, we did not proffer it, we did not -_
ask for it. It was the Park West that wanted their change. Our block did not
ask for a change.
Mr. Olmedillo: You want me to address that?
Commissioner Plummer: Please.
Mr. Olmedillo: Yeas, through the hearings of the comprehensive plan, it was
decided by this Commission that the entire area be restricted commercial.
Commissioner Plummer: OK.
Mr. Olmedillo; And that's our recommendation back to you is that you saw it
that way...
Commissioner Plummer: The entire area?
Mr. Olmedillo: The entire area.
Commissioner Plummer: Is RC.
Mr. Olmedillo: Yes, CR.
Commissioner Plummer: CR.
Ms. Bauer: Well, I mean...
Mr. Olmedillo: She's entitled to apply for the zoning change.
Commissioner Plummer: Yes, you could do that under your own individual
application.
Ms. Bauer: I understand that, well, the - it was our impression that the
interest of the City was to redevelop - I want to wait for the Mayor to come
back on this. There has been some interest in the City redeveloping that
block because there are a lot of older properties on that block and we felt
that because of broader zoning, we might be able to do it through the private
sector as opposed to the City outlaying the money.
Commissioner i.lonso: How important is this for the private development in
that area? Isn't that important for the City of Miami?
Commissioner Plummer: It's more for the Park West.
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Ms. Bauer: It's primarily the block that connects the government center area
with Park West. Everything in there is probably in excess of 40 years old and
we're merely trying to see what we could possibly do in the private sector, as
far as developing it.
Mayor Suarez: I'm sorry, I wasn't being discourteous and not listening. I'm
just in favor of whatever you want to do there.
Ms. Bauer: Thank you so much. I appreciate it, Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Suarez: Anything is better than what we have. It's my philosophy in
that area.
Mr. Olmedillo: See, the conflict, Commissioner, is that when she goes to the
liberal commercial, housing is excluded from it. The restricted commercial
allows housing, a mixed use, which, we feel, is better for development.
However, she's entitled to ask you for the CG which is the more liberal, and
the uses.
Commissioner Plummer: Well, but she can also do it through an individual
application.
Mr. Olmedillo: ...She can also do it for... by an individual application.
Ms. Bauer: Right, but rather than be - take up everybody's time and reappear,
here's another private property owner, Mr. Rattner, who also owns an older
parcel on that square block, and we would like the opportunity to have not
come to the City for the City to purchase, but perhaps do something as far as
development ourselves with the private sector.
Commissioner Plummer: That still doesn't preclude your coming here with an
individual application.
Ms. Bauer: Right. But while we're in this ordinance, this 9500 ordinance,
and since the PAB passed it unanimously, we're just asking, since we have no
neighborhood objection at all, and since we are interested...
Mayor Suarez: What do you mean, no neighborhood objection, there's no
neighborhood.
Ms. Bauer: Well, that's not my fault.
Mayor Suarez: We're trying to create a neighborhood.
Ms. Bauer: Right, I'm trying to go in synch with the City.
Commissioner Plummer: Basically, what I'm saying is, there's no free lunch.
OK? You wanted us to consider it, then come in and put it in an application
for it.
Ms. Bauer: Well...
Mayor Suarez: Why not just do it as we approve the whole...
Commissioner Plummer: My concern is, Mr. Mayor, that particular area is the
buffer between the government center and Park West. I don't want to sere that
area be excluded from having residents, nor do I want to see a concrete high
wall in the shape of a building showing it as a Chinese wall between the two
areas. That's my concern.
Mayor Suarez: And why would what they're requesting make either one of those
scenarios more likely?
Ms. Bauer: Would you prefer a...
Commissioner Plummer: You can't build residential in what she's asking for.
Ms. Bauer: OK...
Mayor Suarez: Which is?
Mr. Rodriguez: Liberal commercial district.
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Mayor Suarez: I almost said stupid again. I've said it so many times today.
I won't say stupid. It is asinine to exclude residential from any part of
downtown by any zoning classification or other restriction.
Commissioner Plurm►er: But, in a CR, they do have the right to have
residential.
Mayor Suarez: And they should be able to have it in whatever classification
they now want. That's great.
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Ms. Bauer: I think it's financially, and as far as development, shooting -
yourself in the foot, if CG is the broadest. Would you prefer to have CG or
would you prefer to have 40 year old buildings sit there forever?
Commissioner Plummer: That's not going to happen.
Mayor Suarez: CG, the broadest.
Ms. Bauer: I mean, I just think it makes the most sense...
Mayor Suarez: Anything that might lead the market to create an improvement in
that neighborhood, which is not a neighborhood...
Ms. Bauer: OK, now, Mr...
Mayor Suarez: ...there's a bunch of old warehouses.
Ms. Bauer.: Mr. Rattner is the other property owner on that square block and
he shares...
Mr. Stanley Rattner: I haven't been sworn in.
Mayor Suarez: Another truthful one.
AT THIS POINT THE CITY CLERK ADMINISTERED REQUIRED OATH UNDER ORDINANCE NO.
10511 TO THOSE PERSONS GIVING TESTIMONY ON THIS ISSUE.
Mr. Rattner: My name is Stanley Rattner. I reside at 5960 Alton Road, Miami
Beach and I own the property at 127 N.W. 5th Street. This is when they're
done developing the Public Storage building which is now under construction,
which I believe is 5 stories, I will be on the other property on 5th Street in
that block and I'll be a corner property in a 50 foot lot and it doesn't make
sense that I should be rezoned as the ordinance does into residential in that
location.
Commissioner Plummer: You're not...
Mr. Rattner: That doesn't mean residential isn't permitted there. But to be
restricted to residential in that location.
Commissioner Plummer: And I'm saying, sir, if you want it, come in and file
an application.
Mr. Rattner: Why force me to go through that process when you can...
Commissioner. Plummer: Because everybody in this City does it that way, sir.
There's no free lunches.
Commissioner Alonso: But, they had the zoning before, did they not?
Mr. Rattner: We had the zoning.
Mr. Olmedillo: They did have it, when we...
Commissioner Alonso: They did have it before.
Mr. Olmedillo: When we went into the comprehensive plan and Commissioner,
forgive me, but you were not here then. The public hearings, it was decided
by this Conguission that the entire area be zoned to a type of use which will
allow residential in combination with other uses, such as retail.
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Commissioner Alonso: Right, so they had this before. It was taken away from -
them and now they're asking to...
Ms. Bauer: Retain it.
Commissioner Alonso: ...retain it. I see.
Mayor Suarez: The broadest classification makes the most sense for that area.
Ms. Bauer: Thank you, Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Suarez: It is not a very nice area of the City of Miami that we would
like to improve by allowing just about anything that you build there other
than munitions factory, nuclear arsenal...
Commissioner Plummer: I'll make a motion that the planning department...
Mayor Suarez: ...what other classifications can I think that I would prefer
not to have there?
Commissioner Plummer: I'll make a motion the planning department study it.
Mayor Suarez: So moved. Excluded from the ordinance in effect from today's
action.
Commissioner Alonso: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded. Any discussion? If not, please call the
roll. I'm going to go with that because it's better than denying what you're
requesting. I would be willing to grant it at this point.
Mr. Rattner: Thank you, Mr. Mayor.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved
its adoption:
MOTION NO. 90-84
A MOTION INSTRUCTING THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT TO STUDY
THE AREA AROUND N.W. 5TH STREET AND 2 AVENUE FOR
POSSIBLE CHANGE OF PLAN DESIGNATION/ZONING
CLASSIFICATION IN THE PROPOSED NEW ZONING ORDINANCE.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Alonso, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Victor De Yurre
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner Miriam Alonso
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Vice Mayor Miller Dawkins
COMMENTS MADE DURING ROLL CALL:
Ms. Bauer: I don't quite understand where we're at?
Mayor Suarez: We're going to study it...
Commissioner Alonso: And come back.
Mayor Suarez: ...and that gives the Commissioners a little bit more time to
be sure that what we're doing is right, but I think we're inclined to go in
your direction. At least for myself.
Ms. Bauer: OK, I mean, I just think it would be extending the amount of time
that it's going to take to redevelop that block, unfortunately.
Mayor Suarez: That's why I would much rather just go ahead and do it right
now, but I don't think we're going to have a consensus on that.
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Ms. Bauer: Uh huh. OK, now when do we have to reappear again?
Commissioner Plummer: You'll be so notified.
Ms. Bauer: OK, thank you very much.
Mayor Suarez: You may never have to reappear if you don't us complete the
roll call.
COMMENTS MADE FOLLOWING ROLL CALL:
Mayor Suarez: What brings you here on another item? You've used up your -
you've been back there on the Coral Way stuff, don't tell me you haven't been,
all right.
Ms. Graciela Balanzatequi-Garrido: Well, but I haven't spoken.
Mayor Suarez: Right.
Mr. Garrido: I just need to address one thing.
Mayor Suarez: Give us your name and address. And you've been sworn in, I'm
sure you raised your hand at some point in these proceedings. OK.
Ms. Garrido: Yes. Graciela Balanzatequi-Garrido, 3620 S.W....
Mayor Suarez: Anybody who can pronounce that last name is entitled to be on
this Commission automatically or Sweetwater which apparently is going to have
some vacancies.
Ms. Garrido: S.W. 20th Street. I just need to clarify one thing.
Mayor Suarez: Does our planning director live in Sweetwater? All right, I'm
sorry.
Ms. Garrido: I just need to clarify one thing as far as the SD-12 buffer
district overlay. Please, I want you to be aware that the way that it is
presently written and submitted to you, is more liberal than the original
transitional zoning because it allows buildings....
Mayor Suarez: The one we didn't...
Commissioner Plummer: Turn down.
Ms. Garrido: The one - no, you didn't turn down the buffer itself, the
concept. You turned down the specific areas on Coral Way. I'm still
addressing it for the rest of the City. I still want you to be aware that it
is more liberal than the original transitional because it allows for buildings
within the block. Fifty foot setback for the building, but still within the
transitional lot. Under the original transitional ordinance, you could only
have office buildings in the corner lots so this is even more liberal and
is...
Mayor Suarez: That's very interesting academic question, like how many angels
can dance on a pin and all of that, but what relevancy does that have to the
ones that are going to be left 3.n the ordinance, Graciela?
Ms. Garrido: Well, what we believe...
Mayor Suarez: Is there any that you wouldn't want to have that kind of
ability to provide?
Ms. Garrido: Well, the reason that we are against the building is because, by
increasing the size - not the size, because you, well...
Mayor Suarez: For example, on Flagler and 12th Avenue...
Ms. Garrido: For example, if you already have a parking problem...
Mayor Suarez: ...is there anything behind Flagler and 12th Avenue that would
make you concerned at this point?
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Ms. Garrido: No, I'm not talking about the maps, I'm talking about the
ordinance itself. If you allow...
Mayor Suarez: But if the ordinance itself - all right, go ahead.
Ms. Garrido: OK. The way that the ordinance is written allows you to put the
building 50 foot into the transitional lot. What we're saying is, if the
transitional lot is,supposedly for parking to alleviate the parking problem,
if you're taking up part of it to put the building on, even if you take the
total FAR and instead of going up you go across and you're not really
increasing the size of the building, you're taking up the land space so you're
creating a parking problem. You're not alleviating it. —
Commissioner Plummer: Didn't - wait a minute - didn't we eliminate that?
Mayor Suarez: For the district we did.
Commissioner Alonso: The concept, no.
Mayor Suarez: She's talking about for other parts of the City, but she won't
tell us what parts of the City she's concerned about.
Commissioner Plummer: Well, she's speaking to the ordinance in general.
Mr. Olmedillo: Not in the concept.
Mayor Suarez: Right.
Commissioner Plummer: What?
Mr. Olmedillo: Not in the concept, you didn't eliminate it. I explained to
you what it was, but you didn't make a motion to eliminate or to keep it.
Mayor Suarez: In other parts of the City, we wouldn't want to eliminate it in
other parts of the City.
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Commissioner Plummer: But we were speaking to Coral Way and I'll be making a
j motion now to eliminate that buffer from the SP-12, so that you cannot
encroach upon.
Mayor Suarez: You see, you guys, do you see? You see how difficult it is for
us to...
Mr. Rodriguez: What? I don't understand.
Mayor Suarez: To apply what you guys are proposing. You have not simplified
the zoning code at all.
Mr. Rodriguez: Well, that's what we're here tonight.
Commissioner Plummer: If you're going to allow a building to encroach in a
residential lot, that I want to eliminate, OK? And how do I do it?
Mr. Rodriguez: Eliminate SD-12.
Commissioner Plummer: I thought we did.
Mr. Olmedillo: No, no,no.
Commissioner Plummer: What did we eliminate?
Mr. Rodriguez: You eliminated SD-12 applied it to a particular geographic
area of the City. You had to eliminate...
Mayor Suarez: I thought that SD-12 was a district numbered 12, which was that
district.
Mr. Rodriguez: That district, it's like a zoning classification. It can be
applied throughout the whole City.
Mayor Suarez: But that has a different number, doesn't it?
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Mr. Rodriguez: No, sir.
Commissioner Alonso: No, same number.
Mayor Suarez: It's also SD-12?
Mr. Rodriguez: It's SD--12.
Commissioner Plummer: I will move that the
encroachment in the SD-12
eliminated. I so move.
Mayor Suarez: What the hell does that mean?
Commissioner Plummer: That means that there
will be no encroachment of t
commercial in the residential. That's what it
means.
Mr. Rodriguez: There will be no office...
no construction. You mean,
building.
Mr. Olmedillo: No building.
Commissioner Plummer: In the back lot.
Mr. 0lmedillo: And the residential lot.
Commissioner Plummer: That's correct.
Mr. Rodriguez: But there will be parking.
Let's understand what you'
saying.
Commissioner Plummer: It could be parking...
Mr. Rodriguez: It could be parking.
Commissioner Plummer: ...but only with City Commission, approval.
Commissioner Alonso: Yes.
Mr. Rodriguez: Yes, that's there.
Mr. Olmedillo: Yes.
Commissioner Plummer: No Class C permit...
Mr. Rodriguez: No.
Commissioner Plummer: ... or Genuardi going off on one of his pipe dreams.
Mr. Rodriguez.: No.
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Mayor Suarez: OK, so now the concept of transitional that we had contemplated
to apply to other areas of the City instead of allowing a certain amount of
commercial building, will only be to allow parking.
Mr. Rodriguez: No.
Mr. Olmedillo: Yes.
Mr. Rodriguez: Well, no, no, let me finish.
Commissioner Plummer: Yes.
Mayor Suarez: That's what he's trying to accomplish. If that's not it, then
tell us and also agree with him, he works for you, doesn't het
Mr. Rodriguez: That's OK, but I have to tell you what I think is right.
Mayor Suarez: Right. And explain it to him in advance so that we don't get
disagreeing...
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Mr. Rodriguez: What is happening is, you will not allow, in the lot itself,
the construction of the building, but the square footage of that particular
lot will be allowed in the main building which is in the commercial area.
Mayor Suarez: For the FAR calculation.
Mr. Rodriguez: For FAR calculation. Is that what you want to do?
Commissioner Plummer: No.
Mr. Rodriguez: You want to eliminate completely the commercial use?
Commissioner Plummer: Look, no, I don't want to eliminate...
Mayor Suarez: He wants to provide parking behind the building that is
permitted on the front lot that fronts on the main thoroughfare.
Mr. Rodriguez: Period.
Commissioner Plummer: Period.
Mr. Rodriguez: That's clear then.
Commissioner Plummer: And that's what I so move.
Mayor Suarez: Now - OK, we don't have a second, somebody second that. I
would second it, I would vote for it but I'm wondering in some areas of the
City, the way it was drafted was probably just as good as anything, I mean,
I...
Mr. Olmedillo: You go for rezoning then.
Commissioner Plummer: Mr. Mayor, look, you know, I've been opposed to
transitional usage from day one.
Mayor Suarez: Yes, I know... I buy it, I buy it. It gets us out of here,
for one thing.
Commissioner Plummer: And all I'm saying to you is, you know, all I'm saying
to you is, it is an encroachment of the commercial into the residential and
I'm opposed to that.
Mayor Suarez: Well, in some areas of the City it would be a very helpful
thing to have any kind of encroachment there.
Commissioner Plummer: Then we can change it to commercial area on an
application. That's only...
Mayor Suarez: Yes. That's probably true. All right.
Commissioner Alonso: Well, let me ask a question. We'll have to come back
with this because obviously we are not going to vote on a final thing about
this tonight.
Mr. Olmedillo: No, you got first reading.
Mr. Rodriguez: Tonight, by the way, for the way for the record, this is first
reading, first reading. Second reading will be...
Commissioner Alonso: So, in the next time when we go to the second reading,
we might have to add certain areas that we feel it's necessary.
Mr. Rodriguez: Right. If you want to... well, we would appreciate if you
identify as many issues as possible so that we can work on this between first
and second...
Mayor Suarez: That's what we have been doing for the last hour and a half.
Commissioner Alonso: OK.
Mr. Rodriguez: I'm trying to clarify it for. Commissioner Alonso.
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Mayor Suarez: Right.
Commissioner Alonso: OK.
Mayor Suarez: We have a motion, do we have a second? Second, thank you. Any
discussion? If not, please call the roll.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved
Its adoption:
MOTION NO. 90-85
A MOTION MODIFYING THE PROPOSED NEW ZONING ORDINANCE
FOR THE CITY OF MIAMI BY ELIMINATING ANY COMMERCIAL
BUILDING ENCROACHMENT ON RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY IN THE
PROPOSED SD-12 THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF MIAMI.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner De Yurre, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner victor De Yurre
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner Miriam Alonso
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Vice Mayor Miller Dawkins
Mayor Suarez: And I want to say one thing that the only reason I'm voting for
it is it does simplify things a little bit.
Commissioner Plummer: It does that.
Mayor Suarez: In addition to it probably being a good idea.
Ms. Garrido: Thank you.
Mayor Suarez: Go away.
Commissioner Plummer: Thank you.
Mayor Suarez: All right, anyone else or are we ready to vote on the ordinance
as a whole?
Commissioner Alonso: No, no, no. No, we are not.
Mayor Suarez: OK, can I hear from - or do you want to go first or do you want
to...
Ms. Lewis: Go ahead, Commissioner.
Commissioner Alonso: No, I had two things. One, I like a study in the area
page 33, it's northwest area, 36th Court between 7th and Flagler. Yes.
Mr. Rodriguez: Seventh and northwest, right?
Commissioner Alonso: Northwest, yes.
Commissioner Plummer: The major portions owned by the dog track.
Commissioner Alonso: It's page 33. Yes, it is an area that I need a study
because I think it's very mixed and...
Mr. Olmedillo: May I ask what we're seeking with a study? -unified zoning?
What are we trying...
Commissioner Alonso: Yes, yes, some properties that back to the commercial
area, they might be that it's better that all of them go for buildings because
half of them are, some are duplexes, and I think that it has been changed.
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Mr. Olmedillo: But remember, we would have to comply with
the comprehensive
plan ruling about the consistency with the land use.
Commissioner Alonso: Of course, that's why I want you to do
this study.
Mayor Suarez: What does the camp plan call for that area?
Mr. Olmedillo: The mixed type of use that we have there. We have some single
family, some duplex and some multi family. So, it's a mixed
bag.
Commissioner Plummer: That would be 36th Court east.
Mayor Suarez: Some single family, some duplex.
Mr. Rodriguez: 36th Court, west.
Commissioner Alonso: They back up to the commercial.
Commissioner Plummer: Not west.
Mr. Rodriguez: It's from 36th Court to the west of it.
I think from what
Commissioner Alonso is saying, is the area that is west of
36th Court between
N.W. 7th and Flagler. Am I correct?
Commissioner Alonso: Yes.
Commissioner Plummer: And 37th Avenue?
Mr. Jorge Fernandez: Yes, between 36th and 37th.
Mr. Rodriguez: Right.
Mr. Olmedillo: On 36th going to 42nd, I presume.
Mr. Rodriguez: Let me show you.
Commissioner Plummer: No, that's not what she said now. That's not what she
said. She said 36th Court.
Commissioner Alonso: Court.
Mr. Olmedillo: Only 36th Court between...
Commissioner Alonso: Yes.
Commissioner Plummer: That's correct.
Mr. Rodriguez: ...Flagler and 7th, fine.
Commissioner Plummer: So that doesn't include then 37th Avenue.
Mr, Olmedillo: No, then...
Mr. Rodriguez: No.
Commissioner Plummer: Just want to make sure.
Mr. Olmedillo: ...then I stand corrected with the information that I was
given you, this is an RG-1 district, which is a duplex district, basically.
Mayor Suarez: In the comp plan.
Mr. Olmedillo: Yes. So, in order to go multi -family, we would have to amend
the plan, but we'll come back to you on the 7th - I mean on the 15th.
Mayor Suarez: She didn't say anything about multi -family, she was talking
about buildings.
Mr. Rodriguez: I think she was talking about possible multi -family, among
other things. Right?
Commissioner Alonso: Yes, whenever you go more than...
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Mr.. Fernandez: Than duplex.
Commissioner Alonso: Duplexes, that's what it is.
Mayor Suarez: But is the thrust of the study the possibility of having along
that artery of 36th Court, to have some office building? I mean some
buildings of some sort?
Commissioner Alonso: No, no, no office.
Mr. Rodriguez: No, I think she's... there is multi --family now at this point.
Commissioner Plummer: That would have to be on 37th.
Commissioner Alonso: No, residential.
Mayor Suarez: Oh, residential buildings. Multi -family residential, OK.
Commissioner Alonso: No, residential. Now, about this section here, R-3
multi -family residential. I have lots of doubt and I think this area where
you have the R-3 multi -family residential in which you require a minimum lot
size of 10,000 square feet, I think that's almost impossible. Also, the
requirement of the parking for that area and I think that one area that is
definitely affected by this, is Little Havana. And I think that I have looked
all though the City of Miami and the one area that is going to be affected is
Little Havana, an area in which we need all the help we can get. If we
require that this 10,000 square feet, we're making it impossible in a lot that
is the average lot in that area, 50 x 135, 50 x 150, 50 x 124, if we know that
the lot size in that area is the regular lot size is that...
Mayor Suarez: Roughly 10,000 square feet.
Commissioner Alonso: ...how in the world are we asking 10,000? This is above
what we need. It should be less than that and also the parking requirement
especially in the two bedroom apartment, it has to go down. Otherwise, we're
telling the people, it's impossible and what we are going to get is more of a
ghetto because people will not be able to invest and the small investor is the
one that will go to these areas. The one who will invest in larger
development will not come to these areas, because there's nothing for them, so
I think in order to protect the small investor, in order to protect the area,
we have to change this 10,000 square feet requirement. It has to be lower and
also the parking requirement will have to change because it will only affect
Little Havana and it's going to be devastating for the area.
Mayor Suarez: And...
Commissioner Alonso: I'm opposed completely to this.
Mayor Suarez: What is the parking requirement called for in R-3?
Mr. Olmedillo: R-3 goes by bedroom and it goes one bedroom, it's one parking,
two and three bedrooms will be two and three and - excuse me - a one bedroom
is one, two is two and 3 and 4 will be three parking spaces. So that...
Mayor Suarez: Yes, and I guess the point I'm trying to make is that along the
lines of what Commissioner Alonso was saying, that in some of those areas,
you're going to have elderly, who don't own cars...
Mr. Olmedillo: That has a 50 percent discount in a way. It's built in.
Commissioner Plummer: Yes, but...
Commissioner Alonso: Yes, but listen to this, the reality is...
Mayor Suarez: Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait, a minute. Whoa, whoa,
whoa....
Commissioner Alonso: ...this is to put it black and white, Mayor. What it
means is, people who have now a lot in which they can build five units, six
units, we are telling them it's going to go down to a duplex. Let's be
realistic. They are not going to build a duplex in that area and not be able
to cover not even the mortgage on that property.
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Mayor Suarez: Sure, it's a...
Commissioner Alonso: So let's be realistic, if we want to improve the area,
we have to do it differently and we are not intruding in the neighborhood that
has not been affected...
Mayor Suarez: No, I totally agree with you, I totally agree.
Commissioner Alonso: ...because we do have all kinds of problems in Little
Havana, so we have to face reality and this reflects Little Havana.
Mayor Suarez: Well, what is this business about the elderly counting...
Mr. Olmedillo: No, remember that when the Commission were instructing us on
9500, Commissioner Dawkins specifically said, I want some relief for the
elderly housing and for low income housing.
Mayor Suarez: That's a nice historical point. How are we providing it,
Guillermo?
Mr. Olmedillo: There is a 50 percent discount If you hs•:a a ....
Mayor Suarez: Explain it to me.
Mr. Olmedillo: Well, the requirement is calculated regularly and then you
take out half of it and only provide half of it.
Mayor Suarez: How do you... when a guy comes in and gives you a card saying,
I'm over 65, now can I have less parking?
Mr. Olmedillo: No, no, no. The project has to be qualified.
Mayor Suarez: The entire project.
Mr. Olmedillo: The entire project.
Mayor Suarez: That doesn't take into account what she's talking about.
Commissioner Alonso: Of course not.
Mr. Olmedillo: No, I said... No.
Mayor Suarez: You want the big developers to come in and take advantage of
all the things you've built into the code...
Mr. Olmedillo: Two issues...
Mayor Suarez: ...and the little guy is always...
Commissioner Alonso: pies.
Mayor Suarez: Good luck.
Mr. Olmedillo: Two issues and I'll...
Mayor Suarez: You know, we have a requirement in the City of Miami, you won't
believe this one.
Mr. Olmedillo: Two issues and I'll tell you how to address it.
Mayor Suarez: Someday we're going to change it. Wait a minute - the people
of Miami should know this. If I have it down right.
Commissioner Alonso: Someday we are going to change it? No, we're not going
to approve this because this is insane.
Mayor Suarez: You cannot even seek a variance in the City of Miami unless you
-� have - what is it? -a hundred feet of frontage?
Commissioner Alonso: In Little Havana? Fifty.
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Mr. Olmedillo: Oh, the variance, that's a change of zoning, Mayor.
Mayor Suarez: Right.
Mr. Olmedillo: Two hundred feet of frontage.
Commissioner Alonso: Oh, but in order to have a change of zoning.
Mayor Suarez: So, if you happen not to have 200 feet of frontage, don't try,
you know, don't even call the guy back there in the corner, Bob Traurig,
because even Bob Traurig he can't even apply.
Commissioner Plummer: Well, the question I...
Mayor Suarez: Not the best zoning attorney in Miami cannot even apply for
you.
Commissioner Plummer: That's good. What does this do...
Mayor Suarez: No, but this is along the same lines as what she's saying, you
have built this thing to benefit people who have 10,000 square feet or more
and you have probably made illegal half of the uses in Little Havana in the
process.
Commissioner Alonso: What they are saying, you must own 2 lots in order to
qualify.
Mr. Olmedillo: Two issues you have to bring together. One, is the size of
the lot...
Commissioner Plummer: But, wait, wait, wait. Nobody is speaking to the
amount of density. Now, you know, I'm concerned when you start packing people
on top of people. When you speak of a minimum 10,000 square feet, how many
units would a minimum 10,000 feet allow?
Mr. Olmedillo: Depending on the zoning district, but if you have, going by
the general zoning districts, you have up to 40 units per acre, so that will
be like ten units.
Commissioner Plummer: You're talking about ten units...
Mr. Olmedillo: In ten thousand...
Commissioner Plummer: In other words...
Mr. Olmedillo: In ten thousand square feet.
Commissioner Plummer: ...it would be a unit per thousand square feet.
Mr. Olmedillo: Right, it's like the one to one ratio of land to building.
You have one square foot of building, per one square foot of land.
Commissioner Plummer: OK, then, now break down for me duplex. What is the
minimum on that?
Mr. Olmedillo: The minimu:c is 5,000 square feet.
Commissioner Plummer: And you can put two units on that.
Mr. Olmedillo: Two units on that.
Commissioner Plummer; Or one unit per 2500.
Mr. Olmedillo: Or one unit per 2,500. That is correct.
Commissioner Plummer: And we're talking - to me, you are going...
Mayor Suarez: Well, let's compare it to the typical, if I may interrupt you
for a second. Let's compare it to the typical triplex or quadruplex or
quintuplex that we have in the Little Havana area. Aren't they usually in
lots as described by the Commissioner?
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Mr. Olmedillo: Yes, but they're R-3...
Commissioner Alonso: Yes, what it is and to give you an example, to respond
to your question, the answer...
Mayor Suarez: R-3 is what we were talking about.
Commissioner Alonso: Yes, the answer to your question, Mayor, is think of the
building that we see in Little Havana, six units, five units...
Mayor Suarez: Right.
Commissioner Alonso: ...four units. The typical building that you see there.
We were able to build that in a lot of 50 x 135 before...
Mayor Suarez: That's the one she was talking about, J. L., the 7,500 square
feet with about five units.
Commissioner Alonso: Now, if we approve this, that building cannot be there,
but two units. Because there will be no space at all, right?
Mr. Olmedillo: Right and...
Commissioner Alonso: Two units.
Mr. Rodriguez: The parking requirement is what really kills you in this area,
you know, and you asked us to improve the increasing parking requirements
because we have parking problems throughout the City. So we're proposing on
increasing parking, bi.tt once...
Mayor Suarez: I haven't seen anybody from Little Havana here saying that we
have to have more restrictive parking in Little Havana.
Commissioner Plummer: Well, but you're talking about...
Mr. Rodriguez: No, no, no, when I say you, I mean the Commission has told us
in the past...
Commissioner Plummer: You're talking about in this proposal, Mr. Mayor, the
benefits, as I see them, are tuore for the developer than they are for the
people.
Mayor Suarez: Of course.
Commissioner Plummer: Now that's - you know, I'm more concerned...
Mayor Suarez: And for the planners because they like all this kind of stuff.
Commissioner Plummer: ...about how many people that are going to be there
after the developer leaves and makes his profit and goes away. And, Miriam,
if there was ever an area that needed off street parking., it's Little Havana.
Commissioner Alonso: It's fine, they will have off street parking but the
problem is this, if you require that they 10,000 square feet, what they are
going to get is more of a ghetto because people will not come and invest in
the area. As I tell you, only the people, small investor, will come to that
area and build in such small lots. And we have old homes there, old houses,
deteriorated buildings and unless it's a small investor, no one will have the
confidence to come to this area and invest because it's not worthwhile to do
it.
Mayor Suarez: That's right. And the economics are clear. Sure, the
economics are clear, you don't have...
Commissioner Alonso: So, if you kill that
small
investor, the opportunity to
come to that area, we are saying to the
area,
die, because we don't care.
That doesn't make sense. What we have to
do is
say, one bedroom apartments,
one space; two bedroom apartments, one
space;
and then we will have the _
=
ability to say, we need less than 10,000
square
feet. Because if we remain
with this, what we are going to have is in
lots of
50 x 150, 50 x 135 only two =
units and that's not right.
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Commissioner Plummer, Well, how about if we look at it from a different
concept. How about if we do it so you can only put so many units per square
feet rather than a 10,000 foot minimum? Or 10,000 square foot minimum?
Mayor Suarez: Yes, we already have the zero lot line requirement.
Commissioner Plummer: Instead of 40 per acre, reduce that number down...
Mayor. Suarez: Right.
Commissioner Flummer: If a man has 5,000, he can put three units. If he has
7,000, he can put four units.
Mayor Suarez: That also applies even to less than an acre, of course.
Commissioner Plumper: But what I'm saying to you is, is reduce the amount
from 40 per acre down and have less density.
Mayor Suarez: Well, acre is 44,000 square feet, that's roughly one per what
is it? -a thousand?
Mr. Olmedillo: One per thousand, but what the Commissioner is...
Mayor Suarez: So that applies all the way down to 5,000 or what J. L. is
saying. If you have a 5,000 square foot lot under that criterion, you could
do five.
Mr. Olmedillo: Yes, but you would not not be addressing the Commissioner's
concern.
Commissioner Plummer: But, you can't do the parking.
Mayor Suarez: But Miriam is saying, Commissioner Alonso is saying however,
you can't even apply for it because the minimum of 10,000.
Commissioner Plummer: No, what I'm saying is, let them apply...
Mayor Suarez: Now, and then Commissioner Plummer's worried about parking.
How do you take that into account?
Mr. Olmedillo: I think two issues to clear it up and I think we can put it to
rest. One is the parking...
Mayor Suarez: Right.
Mr. Olmedillo: The parking, and I think you may have a valid point, that that
may be excessive for that area of the City and if you coincide on that...
Mayor Suarez: We're not interested in your policy opinions. How do we solve
the parking7 Now that we've solved the minimum amount, we think it's too high
at 10,000.
Mr. Olmedillo: You have for that particular district, R-3...
Mayor Suarez: Right.
Mr. Olmedillo: You have the limitations, or the parking requirements, as
Commissioner Alonso has expressed it, one and two...
Mayor Suarez: OK, work those out for us so that Commissioner Plummer is
satisfied and...
Mr. Olmedillo: One and two bedroom, they just need one parking space. Then
the three bedroom and four bedroom will need additional parking spaces. But
the one and two bedroom units...
Commissioner Plummer: Why would we consider less than one parking space per
bedroom?
Mayor Suarez: Because the people who are living there don't have that many
automobiles per family.
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Plummer: In Little
Havana?
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Mayor Suarez:
That's right.
You go into some of those quintuplexes that
she's talking
about and there's
not a single...
Commissioner
Plummer: You don't
travel the same
back streets of Little Havana
that I do.
_
Mayor Suarez:
Sure, I do,
— Commissioner
Alonso: But what
you are going
to say if you do that, what
you're going
to say is the old
houses are going
to remain. No more buildings �-
and put it very clear...
Mayor Suarez:
You're making illegal the existing
uses, J. L.
Commissioner Alonso: Yes, people are going to say, I have this old house
standing here. I'm renting it regardless. It looks horrible but people need
to pay me the rent that I request and it's going to remain the horrible old
structure. While, if you give the opportunity to an investor, a small
investor, to come into the area and say, I'm going to have a small, building, a
nice looking building. He is going to provide parking in the building and
he's going to provide better housing for the people.
Mayor Suarez: And that individual will be seven or five minutes from downtown
and will not be in a sprawling City, which is what we're trying to promote
with your growth management legislation and all of that.
Commissioner Plummer: Mr. Mayor, that's not my - my problem still remains to
have less than 1 parking space per bedroom. To me...
Mayor Suarez: Well, let me give you one example, in the housing advisory
board for the County when we're dealing with elderly housing, we go to less
than one parking per unit.
Commissioner Plummer: Oh, elderly housing is a different story, but we're
talking about the general run of the mill of the families. If you go down -
let me give you an example.
Mayor Suarez: No, but I was going to give you an extreme situation. I think
if we even have gone down as low as half per unit, not even per bedroom.
Commissioner Plummer: Oh, I understand that and that's understandable because
the elderly don't own cars.
Mayor Suarez: Right, and a lot of these units are, in fact, inhabited by
elderly.
Commissioner Plummer: Mr. Mayor, if you go down right now S.W. 7th Street,
using that as the example, now that it's been widened, you find cars all over
the side walk, you find them all over the front yards...
Mayor Suarez: That's because we made it into a thoroughfare for the
= suburbanites to leave downtown and the people - right.
Commissioner Plummer: Well, but I'm saying...
Commissioner Alonso: Exactly, and they cut the front lawns of these people
and they did not make...
Mayor Suarez: Sure. We took away, yes, we took away their...
Commissioner Alonso: ...also because there are a lot, lots, of illegal units
and the don't provide for parking but it's not because of a building like
this. Usually buildings
are not the one creating the
problem with
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parking. Most of the time
what it is, is the illegal units,
one resident
who -
has an extra garage with an extra unit, that's the one that
is providing
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Mayor Suarez: Let's ask him what is your proposal? How many - what parking
per bedroom or per unit, do
you want to propose on this?
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Mr. Olmedillo: ice's asking you.
Commissioner Plummer: Asking me? Mr. Mayor, I think it's reasonable one
bedroom, one car. I just think that's reasonable. You've got to provide in
the same way that you want to provide for people...
Mayor Suarez: Are you suggesting, Commission Alonso, that we go less than
that?
Commissioner Alonso: What' I'm saying...
Commissioner Plummer: ...you've got to provide parking or you're going to --
just create a problem that's getting worse every day, the parking.
Mayor Suarez: I don't think... yes, I don't think anybody wants to go to less
than one per unit.
Commissioner Alonso: Do you know something?
Commissioner De Yurre: Mr. Mayor...
Commissioner Alonso: It's going to be better than the buildings that have
been s we've been allowing all these years...
Mayor Suarez: Yes.
Commissioner Alonso: ...in Little Havana. All of these buildings were done
legally. They exist there and they had less parking than this.
Mayor Suarez: Sure.
Commissioner Plummer: And, Miriam, the problem that I find in that area is
that people have split their houses up and they're renting out to two families
and three families...
Commissioner Alonso: I know. I know.
Commissioner Plummer: ...and that's where the problem is coming.
Commission Alonso: That's exactly what I said.
Mayor Suarez: And, in some cases, we should make it legal because it really
is something that we need.
Commissioner De Yurre: Yes...
Mayor Suarez: Go ahead, if you have a suggestion here...
Commissioner De Yurre: Mr. Mayor, one thing and let me tell you, my family
and I, we lived on 13th Avenue, a block away from the Orange Bowl, for 21
- years and we lived in a fourplex which was a two bedroom per each unit and we
had...
Mayor Suarez: Total of 8 bedrooms?
Commissioner De Yurre: What?
Mayor Suarez: In effect, a total of 8 bedrooms.
Commissioner De Yurre: Eight bedrooms and we only had four...
Mayor Suarez: Pour units.
Commissioner De Yurre: ...parking spaces for the whole building. And I think
that's basically what we're talking about building in Little Havana. The
problem is, and I understand there's a big problem with parking because you _
see cars parked...
Commissioner Plummer: Everywhere.
Commissioner De Yurre; ...there's no place to park. But ,yet, on the other
hand, you see there's a need for housing and in order to supply that need for
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housing that exists, there has to be some kind of compromise. I wouldn't feel
uncomfortable at all with voting for a motion that would state that for up to
a one or two bedroom unit, you have to have one parking space. One parking
space for a one or a two bedroom unit. I think that will - you know, you'd
rather you can't have a utopia in a situation where there's a need that needs
to be addressed.
Mayor Suarez: And you cover most of the problem when you go to two bedrooms
because there's very seldom three bedrooms.
Commissioner Plummer: Well, let me tell you, I'll compromise to this point.
One bedroom, one space. Two bedrooms, two spaces...
Mayor Suarez: No.
Commissioner Plummer: Three bedrooms or four, three spaces.
Commissioner De Yurre: It's not economically feasible to go...
Mayor Suarez: No, I'll stay with one parking lot in that area for two
bedrooms and if you want to make it more for three, that's OK, but I'll stick
to one for two, two bedrooms.
Commissioner De Yurre: Yes. Well, I think that if we go like basically we're
on the same wavelength, one parking space for, either a one or two bedroom
unit...
Mayor Suarez: Right. I got...
Commissioner Alonso: Yes.
Commissioner De Yurre: ...and then, as you go up, you have to add one parking
space per bedroom.
Mayor Suarez: All right.
Mr. Olmedillo: May we say, efficiency, one and two bedrooms, one parking
space.
Mayor Suarez: Yes, of course, efficiency, that's less, Guillermo.
Commissioner Plummer: One parking space for two, two parking spaces for
three? Or three parking spaces for three?
Mayor Suarez: No, no, two, two.
Commissioner De Yurre: Two parking spaces for three, three for four.
Mayor Suarez: You add one for each additional bedroom after two.
Commissioner De Yurre: I doubt they're going to have any three bedroom
apartments in that area.
Mayor Suarez: There's no three bedrooms down there.
Commissioner Alonso: I don't think they will build three bedrooms, four
bedrooms in that area.
Commissioner Plummer: No.
Commissioner De Yurre: No.
Mayor. Suarez: There aren't any, not in the areas we're talking about.
Commissioner De Yurre: So are you talking about a one efficiency or one or a
two bedroom unit, that's: it.
Mayor Suarez: A one or two bedroom. One parking space. All right, I'll
entertain that in the form of a motion.
Commissioner De Yurre: I'll make that, that's my motion.
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Mayor Suarez: Do you want to second so we can...
Commissioner Alonso: Yes, I second.
Mayor Suarez: Second. Any discussion? If not, please call the roll. You're
not against it, are you?
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner De Yurre, who moved
Its adoption:
MOTION NO. 90-86
A MOTION DIRECTING THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT TO CONDUCT
A STUDY OF THE PROPOSED CITY OF MIAMI ZONING ATLAS
PAGE 33 (N.W. 36 COURT BETWEEN 7TH AND FLAGLER STREET)
FOR POSSIBLE MULTI -FAMILY PLAN DESIGNATION/CHANGE OF
ZONING; FURTHER INSTRUCTING THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT TO
AMEND THE PROPOSED R-3 ZONING DISTRICT IN THE NEW
ZONING ORDINANCE TO REFLECT THE FOLLOWING PROVISION
FOR PARKING REQUIREMENT:
ONE PARKING SPACE FOR TWO -BEDROOM UNIT,
TWO PARKING SPACES FOR THREE -BEDROOM UNITS,
THREE PARKING SPACES FOR FOUR -BEDROOM UNITS.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Alonso, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Victor De Yurre
Commissioner Miriam Alonso
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
ABSENT: Vice Mayor Miller Dawkins.
COMMENTS MADE DURING ROLL CALL:
Commissioner Plummer: I'm going to have to vote no. I just think that
there's need, the need is for at the lower end is one bedroom, one space and I
just feel very strongly that it's not going to help the situation, it's going
to make it worse. I have to vote no on that particular item.
COMMENTS MADE FOLLOWING ROLL CALL:
Commissioner Plummer: Now, what about the 10,000 square feet?
Mayor Suarez: What do you suggest, Commissioner Alonso, as a threshold amount
that you would like to put into the legislation?
Commissioner Alonso: Yes, according to the suggestion, in my discussion with
them, they say they came up the 10,000 square feet mainly because of the
problem of parking. If we don't have the parking requirement, they can lower
the requirement. Right?
Mayor Suarez: Yes, if it's not a - if this parking requirements not as
stringent as they had put into the legislation, that we can go to a lower...
Commissioner Plummer: How much lower?
Mayor Suarez: Fifty by - do you want to make it 7,500 square feet?
Commissioner De Yurre: No, you'll have to go less. You have to go less than
that.
Commissioner Alonso: Less.
Mayor Suarez: Less? Six thousand?
Commissioner Plummer: Less than 7,500 for five units?
Commissioner De Yurre: As long as you provide the parking.
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Commissioner Alonso: I want you to know, Commissioner Plummer, that all the -
buildings that... small buildings that are in the City of Miami, the area that
they have, it's less. They could have it in five thousand and it's plenty... - —
Mayor Suarez: Yes, zero lot line, 50 x 100. A lot of them are 50 x 100.
Mr. Rodriguez: If it would help you...
Commissioner Alonso: ...and it's the area that they have, the lots are not
larger than that.
Mr. Rodriguez: If it will help you to come to a figure, the present
requirement is 5,000.
Commissioner De Yurre: That's it7
Mayor Suarez: Go with five.
Commissioner Plummer: But that's for a duplex.
Commissioner Alonso: No, that's the requirement that we have in the City of
Miami, period.
Mr. Olmedillo: No, no...
Mr. Rodriguez: For any lot.
Mayor Suarez: For R-3, five thousand.
Commissioner Plummer: Yes, but, hey, excuse me...
Mr. Rodriguez: I just give you facts.
Commissioner Plummer: ...maybe I'm missing the boat. Are we not trying to
improve the area?
Commissioner Alonso: Exactly.
Commissioner Plummer: I don't see putting more people into the same amount of =_
property as an improvement, with less parking. Somewhere I'm missing the
boat.
Mayor Suarez: Wait a minute now, depending on the...
Commissioner Alonso: Let me explain to you what the boat has. Houses that =
look to you like one house, it's having really ten apartments. It's better to
have a new building that follows all codes and regulations and it's only five
apartments rather than having an old house with ten apartments in each. It's —
much better to have it that way. A new building looking better in the area
and improving the condition of the neighborhood, that's what it means. That's
the bottom line. The difference between having that old house with ten
apartments...
Mayor Suarez: What is the height restriction?
Commissioner Alonso: ...in that house.
Commissioner Plummer: There's only one problem, Miriam.
Mayor Suarez: J.L., let me do a little geometry here. What is the height -_
restriction? -
Commissioner Plummer: Mr. Mayor, there is only one problem with that. That
will be ten units in a new building until the certificate of occupancy and
then the next day, it will be 20 units. _
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Mayor Suarez: Oh, no, no, no, no.
Commissioner Alonso: No.
Commissioner Plummer: It happens today. Why are you not going to happen in
the future?
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Mayor Suarez: No, no, no, no. -
Commissioner Alonso: No, when you have a new...
Mayor Suarez: Because nobody complains about anybody else because they're
afraid they're all going to be turned in. But if you have a reasonable
regulation, they can live with it.
Commissioner Plummer: Yeah, come on.
Commissioner Alonso: I bet to you. _
Commissioner Plummer: Come on.
Commissioner Alonso: I bet to you, I bet to you that new buildings and we go
and expect any new building and they can rent the new building at a better - —
much better! So there's no need to divide the new building. Just go and make
inspections, and you'll see.
Mayor Suarez: Forty feet?
Mr. Rodriguez: Forty feet.
Commissioner De Yurre: The height?
Mayor Suarez: If you had a three story building with a typical footprint of -
what's the FAR?
Mr. Rodriguez: We don't have FAR here.
Mayor Suarez: There's no FAR in R-3s? OK, if you had a typical building of 3
stories and the footprint was 3,000 square feet, right? That would cover 60
percent of the 5,000 square foot lot, right? You would be able to put a total
of 9,000 square foot of livable space in a 3 story building in that
neighborhood, right? And still...
Commissioner Alonso: No one will build, Mr. Mayor, more than 2 stories.
Mayor Suarez: Three stories? Well, let me try three just for the geometry
and see...
Commissioner Alonso: Because it's not worth the investment.
Commissioner De Yurre: You got a setback, you have your setback was 20 feet?
Mr. Rodriguez: Twenty feet.
Mayor Suarez: Can you build three stories, realistically there?
Mr. Olmedillo: Yes.
Commissioner De Yurre: Twenty feet and what's your front setback?
Mr. Rodriguez: The front setback?
Commissioner De Yurre: Yeah.
Mr. Rodriguez: Twenty.
Commissioner De Yurre: Twenty and twenty.
Mayor Suarez: So, you got...
Commissioner De Yurre: So what do you got to build? -a ten foot structure?
Mr. Rodriguez: No, no, no, the front and rear...
Commissioner De Yurre: OK.
Mr. Olmedillo: No, there's front and rear setback..
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Commissioner De Yurre: Huh?
Mr. Olmedillo: Front and rear.
Mr. Rodriguez: Front and rear. I thought you were asking...
Commissioner De Yurre: Front and rear, so that leaves you 60 feet.
Mr. Rodriguez: No.
Mr. Olmedillo: Typically, you have a hundred and thirty.
Commissioner De Yurre: Well, yeah, let's say it's a hundred...
—y Mr. Rodriguez: Also, the lots in the area are 124, 130, in that area.
Mayor Suarez: We're looking at a 50 x 100 which is the minimum...
Commissioner De Yurre: OK.
Mr. Rodriguez: Oh, fifty, one hundred, will give you sixty.
Commissioner Plummer: You know, I guess we're going to have to go back...
Commissioner Alonso: Where do you put the parking if you really have 20 and
20? You need more.
Commissioner Plummer: We're going to have to go back of a thing I've never
understood to the architects in Cuba. How you throw a house out the window.
Mayor Suarez: Oh right, the expression. "Botar la casa por la ventana."
Commissioner Alonso: "Botar la case por la ventana."
Mayor Suarez: That's what happens when you hang around with Cubans, J. L.
You're getting all the sayings.
Mr. Plummer: Yes, but that's what I'm seeing in these houses on 5,000 square
feet.
Mayor Suarez: I know who taught you that. I know who taught you that saying.
Well, in most parts of Europe, folks, not to mention Hong Kong again because
I've done it once today, you would be able to build a heck of a lot more than
this in the inner city and thereby the traffic situation improves because
people live close to where they work. That's the whole idea of this. And I
don't know why our planners don't seem to like that.
Commissioner Plummer: Yes, but you know, let me tell what you're not saying,
Mr. Mayor. You know why the Japanese have so damn much money? Because they
can't buy a house, that's why they have money. They don't have any housing
over there. They have to rent. Now, is that what we're trying to develop?
Mayor Suarez: Obviously, to be a successful funeral home director, you don't
have to know anything about economics.
Commissioner Plummer: You could bet your bippy I'm not a damn lawyer. I'm
saying, look, to me...
Mayor Suarez: We're envisioning, you realize we're envisioning what is
already there, that's all we're doing.
Commissioner Plummer: I understand that.
Mayor Suarez: And we want to make that legal and improvable so that they
don't have to let it deteriorate.
Commissioner Plummer: But when you start - in my way of thinking, when you
start building five units on 5,000 square feet, with less parking, I just
cannot see where you're improving the area except, yes, I can acknowledge you
got a new building. But instead of an old ghetto, you've got a new ghetto.
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Commissioner Alonso: OK, no, let me explain to you
example of a six unit apartment...
Let me give you an
Mayor Suarez: Yes, that's what I was trying to do, a little geometry.
Commissioner Alonso: OK, the front of the building as the old structure went,
you had in the front of the building, you could have two parking spaces, in
the front. If you go to the back of the building, if they allow the parking
in the back, you could have six parking spaces in the back. If you go as the
new system that they started in front of the building, you could have, what? -
four?
Mayor Suarez: Four across.
Mr. Olmedillo: Across.
Commissioner Alonsos Four each side. Right?
Commissioner De Yurre: No, four in front.
Mr. Olmedillo: Oh, no, you can have four across the front.
Commissioner Alonso: Four across the front.
Mr. Olmedillo: And if you want a drive through...
Commissioner Alonso: Nine.
Mr. Olmedillo: ...then that's a different matter.
Commissioner Alonso: Nine. And that's they do. They have everywhere in the
City of Miami, drive anywhere, 6th Street, 7th Street, anywhere.
Mayor Suarez: They must have been legal when they built them and...
Commissioner Alonso: Oh, of course! It is, it is all over the City of Miami.
Mayor Suarez: And if you don't do this, what you have is what's called
gentrification. You're saying the only people that can live in the inner city
are the yuppies, the ones that have high incomes that can afford to buy units
with all the square footage and all this parking and all that kind of stuff.
All right, we've all argued our urban planning philosophy long enough. Why
don't we vote?
Commissioner De Yurre: Five thousand square feet.
Commissioner Alonso: Yes.
Mayor Suarez: Minimum 5,000 square feet for the R-3s. So moved.
Commissioner Alonso: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Seconded. Any discussion? If not, please call the roll.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner De Yurre, who moved
its adoption:
MOTION NO. 90-87
A MOTION MODIFYING THE PROPOSED NEW ZONING ORDINANCE
FOR THE CITY OF MIAMI BY CHANGING THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE
IN THE R-3 DISTRICT FROM 10,000 SQUARE FEET TO 5,000
SQUARE FEET.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Alonso, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote:
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AYES: Commissioner Victor De Yurre
Commissioner Miriam Alonso
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
ABSENT: Vice Mayor Miller Dawkins.
COMMENTS MADE DURING ROLL CALL:
Commissioner Plummer: I can't see it as an improvement, I have to vote no.
COMMENTS MADE FOLLOWING ROLL CALL:
Mayor Suarez: What's your... are you finished, Commissioner, on R-3?
Commissioner Alonso: Yes, yes.
Mayor Suarez: What's your last wish?
Ms. Lewis: My last wish, on behalf of the good folks who live and work in SD-
5...
Mayor Suarez: Transferable development, no?
Ms. Lewis: One bite only.
Mayor Suarez: All right.
Ms. Lewis: In SD-5 and SD-7, which is the composition of the Brickell Area
Association, on whose behalf I am speaking, is to let you know that we believe
that this ordinance that we have before you tonight is a substantial
improvement over 9500. We're pleased with what the planning department has
done with regard to R-2 districts. - We would like your direction to be given
to the planning department tonight that they continue working with our
membership on two areas. The first area is with regard to liberalizing retail
usage within both of the districts. Our members find that their work force
which comes down Brickell Avenue needs...
Mayor Suarez: You got it. Right here. I don't know about the other
Commissioners, absolutely no problem with that.
Ms. Lewis: The next thing that we would like you to direct staff to continue
to work, with us on is...
Mayor Suarez: In fact, there should be no restriction whatsoever that I can
imagine to the amount of retail you'd want to put there. That way, people can
shop on Brickell and they don't have to go to Dadeland.
Ms. Lewis: Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Commissioner.
Mayor Suarez: What was the other one?
Ms. Lewis: The other is with regard to clarifying that high density
residential should be permitted within both districts subject only to the
configurations of the individual lots.
Mayor Suarez: High density residential. What is she talking about? What is
this?
Ms. Lewis: High density residential is...
Mayor Suarez: How high density residential?
Ms. Lewis: How high?
Mayor Suarez: Yes.
Ms, Lewis: How high is high? High is essentially without an artificial
dwelling unit per acre limitation.
Me. Lewis: And that's consistent, Mayor, with the comp plan and specifically
with regard to the downtown master plan.
Mayor Suarez: In that area, there would be no limitation at all?
Ms. Lewis: Whatever the footprint of the lots can bear.
Mayor Suarez: And the market.
Ms. Lewis: And the market.
Mayor Suarez: Obviously. What about that? Why should we try to artificially
limit the number of units per acre? What sense does that make?
Mr. Olmedillo: Well, what we have is indirectly through the comprehensive
plan we have, let's say a hundred units per net acre. That will limit the
number of units, then what, I think Ms. Lewis is attempting to...
Mayor Suarez: But that only says what, it doesn't say why, Guillermo. Why
would we do that?
Mr. Olmedillo: Because we have to restrict density to match the level of
service that we can provide the citizens of the City of Miami.
Mayor Suarez: What says that a hundred is the magical number per acre? I
don't understand.
Mr. Rodriguez: Mr. Mayor, we don't want to limit residential in Brickell.
The only thing that we are, at this point, is that we're trying to reflect
what we show in the camp plan, a maximum of 100 dwelling units per net acre.
And that we're...
Mayor Suarez: Somebody pulled that out of thin air and you want to stay with
that now for the next 50 years.
Mr. Rodriguez: If I may finish. What we're proposing to do is amend the
comprehensive plan to remove that top limit, that 100 that we have now. You
just said it's going to take us a while to do it.
Ms. Lewis: We support that.
Mr. Olmedillo: And we'll work with them.
Mr. Rodriguez: Yes, and we're support.
Mayor Suarez: You mean, she agreed with you all that time?
Mr. Rodriguez: We have agreement all the way through. I mean, we took a long
time to give agreement.
Commissioner Alonso: They're very pleased.
Ms. Lewis: And TDRs. Thank you.
Mayor Suarez: That's it? We're finished, we're ready to vote on the
ordinance as a whole? Apparently not.
Mr. Rodriguez: Just one question. I don't know - I know exactly how you feel
about TDRs, but I don't know whether you decided to remove transferable
development rights from the ordinance or not.
Mayor Suarez: I was hoping you wouldn't bring that up, but, yes, we ought to
vote on it at some point.
Mr. Nestor Mendoza: Yes. I have a property, may name is Mendoza. I'm
representing the owners of N.W. 7th Street, 4861.
Mayor Suarez: And you were sworn in?
Commissioner Plummer: Are you a lawyer?
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Mr. Mendoza: No,
Mayor Suarez: You were sworn in. And are you a registered lobbyist, if
you're being paid for this representation or...
Mr. Mendoza: No. Just vice president of the corporation.
Mayor Suarez: OK, you got to do both.
Commissioner Plummer: What?
Mr. Mendoza: I'm vice president of the corporation.
Mayor Suarez: Vice president of the corporation. But you're not being
compensated for your appearance here?
Mr. Mendoza: No.
Mayor Suarez: OK, then, swear him in, please. Anyone else that's going to
testify, this is your last shot at being sworn in. Anyone else? There's a
lady. Ma'am, were you sworn in back there? Joe, or Bob, would you ask the
lady that was going to testify on the matter? Have you been sworn in, ma'am?
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: No.
Mayor Suarez: OK, just...
Ms. Celia Katchen: Celia Katchen, 2321 S.W. 27th Terrace.
Mayor Suarez: OK. Great, let's swear both of you in at the same time. This
is it for any testimony on this item, I hope.
Ms. Katchen: I'm on number, special item number six, That's what I'm here
for.
Mayor Suarez:
Right.
Might
as well swear you in, I'm just trying to do
this - please.
Mr. Rodriguez:
That's
later.
Commissioner Plummer:
It's 22nd,
yes.
Mayor Suarez:
Administer the
oath.
AT THIS POINT
THE CITY CLERK
ADMINISTERED REQUIRED OATH UNDER ORDINANCE NO.
10511 TO THOSE
PERSONS
GIVING
TESTIMONY ON THIS ISSUE.
Mayor Suarez: OK, sir, what was the area again that you described?
Mr. Mendoza: 4861 N.W. 7th Street.
Mayor Suarez: 4861 N.W., that's over by Blue Lagoon.
Commissioner Plummer: Shopping center.
Mr. Mendoza: Right.
Commissioner Plummer: The shopping center.
Mr. Mendoza:
Commissioner Plummer: And what do you want to do?
Mr. Mendoza: OK, the property adjacent to it has a zoning of RG-3/6. Our
property has a zoning of RG-3/5. Since this is a high density area, what we
want is to have the same zoning that is to the west of the property.
Commissioner Plummer: Everybody wants more density.
Mr. Mendoza: Well, this was already approved as a high density area.
Commissioner Plummer: Yes, but how high? That's the problem.
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Mr. Mendoza: Well, it was approved last year.
Commissioner Alonso: What page is that?
Mr. Rodriguez: I think it's 31.
Mr. Mendoza: Go ahead, give me one, so I can know what I'rr talking about.
Mr. Rodriguers I'm sorry, did you say 4861 N.W. 7th Street? Hello?
Commissioner Alonso: Sir., you say...
Mr. Rodriguez: 4861 N.W. 7th Street.
Mr. Mendoza: Correct.
Mayor Suarez: This, by the way, this letter that you have just handed to me,
is on behalf of Carolyn Weiss...
Mr. Mendoza: Correct.
Mayor Suarez: ...and I gather she supports what he is asking for.
Mr. Mendoza: Yes, sir.
Mayor Suarez: And it's introduced into the record, Madam City Clerk. It's
pretty tricky of Carolyn to support this when she's in the Far East some place
and hasn't arrived yet.
Mr. Mendoza: She's here.
Mayor Suarez: She's back?
Mr. Mendoza: Yes.
Mayor Suarez: City's not safe anymore. Just kidding. All right, anybody
have any problem with this?
Mr. Rodriguez: What is the request?
Mr. Olmedillo: What you have in front of you is R-4, which it's a 1.72 FAR,
which, I think, is what they are asking for. So', it's already in front of
you.
Mayor Suarez: You may already have what you want. You have R-4, 1.72 FAR,
incredibly, that is the same FAR that the Omni area has north of...
Mr. Rodriguez: No.
Mayor Suarez: No? North of 17th? Doesn't it go down to 1.72? Thank you,
Guillermo.
Mr. Rodriguez: What portion of the Omni?
Mayor Suarez: See, he wants to contradict me all the time.
Mr. Rodriguez: No, no,, no. But I thought you were talking about the Omni
area that we have the high intensity of in Omni.
Mayor Suarez: There's a point at which it goes right down to 1.72 right
around the Omni.
Mr. Rodriguez: OK, north, I'm sorry.
Mayor Suarez: Incredible. Incredible.
Commissioner Plummer: Well, let me ask a question.
Mr. Rodriguez: Linkages. TDRs.
Commissioner Plummer: Why would they be entitled to a change?
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Mr. Olmedillo: In the simplification of the districts, this was sector 5 and
sector b. When we did away with the LUI, we were saying, the...
Mayor Suarez: With the what?
Mr. Olmedillo: With the LUI system.
Mr. Rodriguez: LUI system.
Mr. Olmedillo: That complicated...
Mayor Suarez: That's the word I was trying to figure out that you were
referring to before. With the what system?
Mr. Olmedillo: LUI, land use intensity system. We did away with it.
Mayor Suarez: No acronyms, please.
Mr. Olmedillo: Don't worry about it, we did away with it.
Mayor Suarez: Tell us what the hell you're talking about. The LUI system.
That's the one we just got rid of?
Mr. Olmedillo: Yes.
Commissioner Plummer: Yes, we've got rid of the LUI and we got the kafooie.
Mayor Suarez: The LUI system.
Mr. Rodriguez: What is he saying?
Mr. Olmedillo: And then what you simply have is that on the main
thoroughfares, everything is the same intensity. So these people under that
criterion, have the same intensity as everybody else.
Mayor Suarez: They don't really need anything from us.
Commissioner Alonso: They don't, really.
Mayor Suarez: Apparently, they're encompassed by the changes proposed.
Commissioner Alonso: They have what - you have what you want. It's right
there.
Mayor Suarez: You got it, Toyota.
Commissioner Alonso: You got it.
Mr. Mendoza: Thank you.
Mayor Suarez: That's it. Ma'am? Last one and we're going to move on to...
Mr. Rodriguez: No, the lady, I believe, is in another item, Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Suar,,z: The SOS item, all right. Transferable development rights.
Commissioners, we have to decide. I see a bunch of people, nice people,
intelligent people, that somehow favor it. I am totally against it for
reasons you have heard because I think it's unnecessary. We would give therm
what they wanted, if they just came and asked for it. But, it's up to you.
We have to vote on it. It's in the ordinance otherwise, right? If we take it
as a whole.
Commissioner Alonso: I don't know. Mayor, you made it sound so complicated,
so difficult, so against the people that want to develop the area, that it's
incredible. I had the impression, when they explained the entire package to
me, I thought it was a challenge, I thought it was interesting the approach, I
thought it was an interesting feature that we were providing, but right now
I'm not certain where I stand.
Mayor Suarez: Mr. Plan... I got an idea.
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Mr. Rodriguez: Map i suggest something? Maybe it will help you.
Mayor Suarez: Yes, Mr. Planning Director, is there any way we can do this
without having to have an exchange of development rights and still carry out
the same purpose of allowing... or am I just not being Machiavellian enough?
Do they really want to engage in this selling and purchasing of transfer...
Commissioner Alonso: They want to gain...
Mr. Rodriguez: I couldn't say that. But...
Mayor Suarez: Well, I mean, that may be part of the reason, I don't know.
For all I know, there's people that want to sell development rights that
nobody else thinks are worth anything.
Mr. Rodriguez: What I was thinking that maybe - I don't know if you're
inclined to do this - why, since this is first reading, why don't you leave it
alone for this time and then second reading you can always remove it.
Mayor Suarez: OK, that's interesting, but how about an answer to my question?
Is there any way to do what we want to do, which is to allow the variation on
the ability to develop in the areas where they consider would be transferee
areas that we want to encourage development in without having to trade in some
development rights and still carry out all the same purposes of the ordinance
as proposed➢
Mr. Rodriguez: One way of handling that might be that we establish a cap on
how much you can increase a particular area...
Mayor Suarez: Well, 25 percent, as you already have in there.
Mr. Rodriguez: And, like we have also checking with all the levels of
services that we have, as we mentioned before...
Mayor Suarez: Right, it's got to be within the comprehensive neighborhood
master plan and also the growth management criteria and they make a
contribution...
Mr. Rodriguez: Don't call it a transfer development rights and just add
the...
Mayor Suarez: I'm sorry?
Mr. Rodriguez: Don't call it a transfer development right, just add
development rights on a case by case basis coming before you...
Mayor Suarez: But how do we get money out of it the way Commissioner Plummer
was...
Mr. Rodriguez: You get a major use permit in each case and then there has to
be a justification for each case that is brought before you and they will have
to pay a certain amount of money and I will have to get the...
Commissioner Alonso: Is that legal?
Mr. Rodriguez: I would have to get the support from the legal attorney...
Mayor Suarez: Commissioner Alonso, before they answer it, let me tell you
they first told me it was illegal in 1985, then a very nice attorney, by the
name of Lynn Danhyser, did some research and found an ordinance in
Massachusetts that had been interpreted by the Supreme Court of the State of
Massachusetts to be legal and then they started changing their minds. And
this was not...
Mr. Rodriguez: We have linkages in our ordinance since 1981 or 182. We have
it in two areas of the City and we're proposing it today with the SPI-21, in
River Quadrant to have a third area. What the Mayor is proposing is to have
it throughout the City and increase the FAR ratio up to 25 percent, if you pay
a certain amount of money for a particular fund. We would have to get support
from the law department as to whether this is - could be contract zoning or
not.
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Mayor Suarez: He already told me it was legal, I have the opinion and tie's
not going to contradict Lucia Dougherty, I'm shire.
Mr. Rodriguez: Why, will this will be considered contract zoning or not, but
other than that, instead of calling transfer development rights...
Mayor Suarez: We've gone through the legal arguments already on that. If
it's adequately drafted, it's been approved by...
Mr. Fernandez: Upheld, correct.
Mr. Rodriguez: I think it was a little bit different from what you're
proposing, but I mean, what I'm proposing now is, instead of calling a
transfer development rights, just add development rights and...
Mayor Suarez: Or bonus development rights. Development right bonus, together
with a little contribution to the City so we don't have to do it in the
blatantly...
Mr. Rodriguez: If it make you happy, call it linkage, yes.
Mayor Suarez: ...the way that we've been doing it.
Commissioner Alonsoe Mayor, let's hear from the lady. She's saying no, no,
no. Why?
Mayor Suarez: Because she wants to sell development rights, that's why.
Ms. Anderson: I hope not, because there is no money really in that.
Mayor Suarez: What's wrong with doing it without having to sell any - I don't
understand. How could you be against that?
Ms. Anderson: Let me explain to you the perspective that I have as we worked
on this. First of all, the City already has development rights as we
discussed in all areas of the City. That's what's on a piece of land when you
buy a piece of land, is the right to use it and to put a building of a certain
size on it. Most of the commercial areas of the City - in fact, most of the
areas of the City do not have buildings of the full size that they would be
allowed by development rights, and in some of the mixed use areas, not all of
the uses have been built. For example, Brickell Avenue, most of the buildings
are office buildings and they had unused residential development rights.
Mayor Suarez: Right.
Ms. Anderson: The City wants to encourage residential development. If you
increase the development rights, again, in any part of the City, you're adding
to bigger buildings. You're not using now what you've already given to
property owners...
Mayor Suarez: It may not be - the economies of scale may say, may dictate not
building that building up to that height, but if you give a little bit more
density, then economies of scale might indicate that it's non feasible.
Ms. Anderson: But, if you take individual lots and each individual lot has
the right to always get bigger, you're going to build, in some instances,
buildings that are in small areas of the City that are so large, that the
market doesn't fill them up quickly and the rest of the area sit there and
decline.
Mayor Suarez: Do you think people are going to continue doing that against
their own enlightened self interest? And, if so, why do we worry about it? I
don't care if Mr. Gould built Miami Center and...
Ms. Anderson: I agree with you that Mr. Gould...
Mayor Suarez: And it cost $250 million dollars and have to sell it for a
hundred and seventy.
Ms. Anderson: Mr, Gould might build...
Mayor Suarez: It's a very nice looking building.
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Ms. Anderson: It's a wonderful building and a great place, but all...
Mayor Suarez: Why should I tell him what he should build and what he
shouldn't?
Me. Anderson: You shouldn't. But if he didn't build that building of that
size and someone else in another area of the City wanted to build some of what
he didn't use, why not use up what you've already given him, collect the taxes
from it and spread around the existing uses before you create more? For one
thing, then you don't have...
Mayor Suarez: You haven't given me one hypothetical that makes sense for the
transfer of development rights.
Ms. Anderson: If you take the unused residential development rights in a
Brickell Avenue lot that is currently developed as an office building and move
some of those residential development rights to East Little Havana, you will
accomplish a lot of things that you would like to do. Move those unused
development rights to Coral Way.
Mayor Suarez: Hal Ha, hal What we just did before is what will allow more
residential density in Little Havana, not transferring anything from Brickell.
Ms. Anderson: But you're going to create again, lot by lot, individual
application by individual application, some awfully big projects that are out
of proportion to the area without using up what you've already dedicated to
those owners.
Mayor Suarez: But if you have a very large project that is out of proportion
to the area, we should forbid it right now and downzone it.
Ms. Anderson: That's another question. The other thing is, you already have
a TDR section of the existing 9500 ordinance.
Mayor Suarez: Which we should get rid of forthwith.
Ms. Anderson: Well, it hasn't been used and one reason it hasn't been used is
that it's been so restrictive that it hasn't made any sense. Every City has
this, Mayor. And I know...
Mayor Suarez: Ah, so we got to have it because everybody else has it.
Ms. Anderson: No, you don't. But if you don't have it, you're eliminating a
good tool for development and why not have it and if it's used, why not have
the benefit of it and if it isn't used...
Mayor Suarez: Because we're giving you all the benefits of it without having
to trade any development rights in an area that we want to encourage
development also. Most of the areas that you have told me would transfer
development rights, are areas where we'd also like to have more development.
Ms. Anderson: I know you would.
Mayor Suarez: And if you - then tell the person you have now transferred it,
you can use it for your development there, then they may be discouraged from
building in East Little Havana or the other areas that you previously
mentioned to me from which you might transfer development rights.
Ms. Anderson: What I'd like to request is time to work with staff to try and
make it work or to suggest an alternate that accommodates you. If you'd let
us do that.
Mayor Suarez: I don't know. The rest of the Commission may want to inquire.
Commissioner Alonso: I have a question. Do they get more through this iethod
or the suggestion that came through the ideas that the Mayor had will not
provide that the end, the same result for any particular property?
Mr. Rodriguez: I haven't explored completely the complete effect of the
Mayor's proposal. The only thing is...
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Commissioner Alonso: Well, he's saying instead of buying from another
property, we just do it directly with the person.
Mr. Rodriguez: Yes, oh, I understand that. What I think we are doing with
the transfer of development rights is that we have total and we're taking a
little piece from here without affecting the total and putting it over here.
What the Mayor's proposing...
Commissioner Plummer: But, you see, you're not talking about a little piece,
you're talking about 25 percent...
Commissioner Alonso: ...five percent.
Mr. Rodriguez: I'm trying to give you an example.
Commissioner Plummer: Well, give me the full example.
Mr. Rodriguez: OK, the full example, if you take a piece from here, however
big it might be, from the whole of the County, of the City, and the particular
area and you are moving that piece over here without affecting the total of
the City and the level of service that we have to provide for the whole City.
In the Mayor's proposal, if I understand it correctly, you are adding pieces
over here without concern for the total.
Mayor Suarez: No, what I'm saying is, here's your...
Mr. Rodriguez: Without taking a balance, that's the only thing.
Mayor Suarez: ...here's your geodesic dome you're talking about right here,
OR? the envelope. I'm saying, allow a little bit of - a little bit higher if
you pay us, because right now, in some areas, they're not even going to this
height, let alone this.
Mr. Rodriguez: I know. But, in total...
Commissioner Plummer: But, you know, in the Brickell area...
Mr. Rodriguez: In total of the whole City, if you look in general of the
whole City, what you're doing with your...
Mayor Suarez: No, no, no, no. I'm not looking at the whole City at all.
Commissioner Plummer: Sergio...
Mayor Suarez: I have absolutely no interest in transferable development
rights in the neighborhoods at all...
Mr. Rodriguez: I know, we don't have that either.
Mayor Suarez: ...they have no use there. I can't even imagine... -
Mr. Rodriguez: No, no, no. Let me explain myself.
Mayor Suarez: ...the application there at all. Thinking of the central
business district, the Omni and Brickell. Really can't think of any...
Mr. Rodriguez: The central business district doesn't need it. We established
already.
Commissioner Plummer: Why does Brickell reed {t?
Mr. Rodriguez: Because Brickell have a limitation on the floor area ratio.
Cc^nissioner Plummer: What is their limitation?
Mr. Rodriguez: Six or something like that.
Commissioner Plummer: OK, six...
Mr. Rodriguez: Uh huh.
Commissioner Plummer: ...plus bonuses.
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Mr. Olmedillo: No, including bonus.
Mr. Rodriguez: Including bonuses.
Commissioner Plummer: Huh?
Mr. Olmedillo: Six twenty-five including bonuses.
Mr. Rodriguez: Six twenty-five with bonuses.
Commissioner Plummer: Six twenty-five with bonuses. Now, how much more do
you want in the Brickell area?
Ms. Anderson: We don't.
Commissioner Plummer: How much more will the Brickell area stand?
Mayor Suarez: They don't. That's another non example. What is...
Mr. Rodriguez: That is the one that you can establish.
Mayor Suarez: They don't, they're not asking for that. That's the area from
which they would take development rights. So what's the area then to which
you would apply them? The Omni?
Mr. Rodriguez: I don't think that - they are saying no but I think that's one
of the areas in which it will be...
Mayor Suarez: Well, they're the ones requesting it. What's the area to which
you would...
Ms. Anderson: Wynwood, Coral Way, Third Avenue along Coral Way that... it
would be a wonderful place for residential development if there was an
incentive...
Mayor Suarez: We don't want to change the zoning on Coral Way...
Ms. Anderson; I'm not talking about...
Mayor Suarez: Did you see all the neighbors here before?
Ms. Anderson: It doesn't change the zoning. It does not change the zoning.
Mayor Suarez: It increases 25 percent. the FAR. We already have... he was
Just telling theca what you could build over on that Miracle Center property...
Ms. Anderson: Bad example.
Mayor Suarez: ...with the zoning envelope that we have.
Ms. Anderson: I take it back.
Commissioner Plummer: Why are we trying to turn this City into New York?
Ms. Anderson: We're not.,
Commissioner Plummer: I mean, most of the people in this City don't want to
live in caves.
Ms. Anderson: No, no.
Mayor Suarez: But, no, no, but you do want to encourage more vertical
building downtown.
Commissioner Plummer: Agreed, but we want high class vertical, we don't want,
you know, tubby holes.
Mayor Suarez: In some areas of downtown, I'll take anything that's built
there.
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Ms. Anderson: In some of the areas of downtown where you want to encourage
— development, you don't have a system built in that will say to somebody, here
is an incentive, and this gives you a tool, one of many.
Mayor Suarez: This gives you a great incentive to take a development right
that you have in downtown, such as Mrs. Bauer who was here a little while
ago...
Ms. Anderson: OK.
_ Mayor Suarez: ...and transfer it to Omni or to Brickell, thereby decreasing
the chances that you will ever build anything nice around that - what was
7 it? -a meat packing plant, is that what it used to be?
Commissioner Plummer: Yes. Bauer.
Ms. Anderson: Mayor, what I think is at Omni...
Mayor Suarez: This is all backwards, Sheila, I tell you.
Ms. Anderson: What I think is at Omni and Brickell will never, really, need
to use this concept, if anybody does.
Mayor Suarez: Ah, now we got the CBb doesn't need it, Omni doesn't need it
and Brickell doesn't need it. So what are we talking about? -Wynwood?
Ms. Anderson: You're talking about areas of the City that need stimulation
for development.
Mayor Suarez: As a transferrer or a transferee? Who said Wynwood before?
Ms. Anderson: Transferee.
Mayor Suarez: As a transferee. Now, give me a hypothetical where somebody
would transfer development rights so that they can build more in Wynwood.
What do they want to build in Wynwood? Whatever they want to build in
Wynwood, I approve.
Commissioner Alonso: Oh, I wish they'd build In Wynwood.
Ms. Anderson: Wynwood is a...
Mayor Suarez: Twenty-five percent more? Approved.
Ms. Anderson: Exactly. Whatever they might want to do, whatever they might
want...
Mayor Suarez: What's prohibited in Wynwood?
Me. Anderson: Whatever they might want to do and Overtown, where you would
encourage.
Mayor Suarez: Yes, yes.
Ms. Anderson: Whatever they might want to do...
Mayor Suarez: Twenty-five percent more, fifty percent more, seventy-five
percent more, whatever they want to build in Overtown is fine with me.
Ms. Anderson: Whatever they might want to build, an SPI 7, which...
Mayor Suarez: Ah, where's that?
Ms. Anderson: Between 1-95, between the Metrorail and Miami Avenue, south of
the river.
Mayor Suarez: The Metrorail, what Metrorail?
Ms. Anderson: The Metrorail tracks that run parallel to S.W. 1st Avenue.
Mayor Suarez: In Miami Avenue along...
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Ms. Anderson: In Miami Avenue, south of the river. -
Commissioner Plummer: Xavier, make your motion.
Ms. Anderson: That district would be great for redevelopment.
Mayor Suarez: Yes, I'm sorry. All of that should have almost no - if I'm
understanding the area correctly, it should be almost no impediment to
developing there whatever you want.
Ms. Anderson: You just made my point.
Mayor Suarez: So, just come and ask for it, we'll give you whatever
development rights you want.
Commissioner £lummer: Make your motion.
Mayor Suarez: I would take either one of two things. Either we just take
this out of the ordinance, or if we want to be creative and have a linkage
ordinance where we can do, J.L. , what we do when people come for major use
special permits or when they come for closing off roadways and so on, that you
always get a voluntary contribution, you know...
Commissioner Plummer: Take your choice, which one do you want?
Mayor Suarez: I'd much rather go for the linkage ordinance. I think it's...
Commissioner Plummer: Second.
Mayor Suarez: OK.
Mr. Olmedillo: And move to strike TDRs from this.
Mayor Suarez: But, believe all the positive aspects of it. In other words,
you can get the 25 percent increase if you make a contribution which you will
tell us what is a logical contribution for the FAR increase and the parking...
Commissioner Plummer: And it must come before this Commission.
Mayor Suarez: Yes.
Mr. Rodriguez: Right. Major use permit.
Mr. Olmedillo: Major use permit.
Mayor Suarez: OK, we have a motion and second. Commissioner Alonso and
Plummer. Call the roll.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Alonso, who moved
its adoption:
MOTION NO. 90-88
A MOTION TO DELETE ALL SECTIONS IN CONNECTION WITH
TRANSFER OF DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS FROM THE PROPOSED NEW
ZONING ORDINANCE, AND TO INCLUDE A LINKAGE PROGRAM FOR
UP TO AN ADDITIONAL 25% FLOOR AREA RATIO IN
APPROPRIATE DISTRICTS, WHICH SHOULD BE CONNECTED TO A
MAJOR USE SPECIAL PERMIT, AND BE EVALUATED FOR
CONCURRENCY ON A CASE -BY -CASE BASIS.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Victor De Yurre
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner Miriam Alonso
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Vice Mayor Miller Dawkins
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Mayor Suarez: Anything else on this item? If not, I'll entertain a motion on
the entire rest of the ordinance.
Commissioner De Yurre: Moved.
Mayor Suarez: Moved, as it is proposed. Somebody please second it. All
right, I'll second it, just to get out of this quagmire.
Mr. Fernandez: J.L., you're on the chair.
Commissioner Plummer: Read the ordinance.
Mr. Fernandez: With all the amendments that will be reflected by the time of
second reading, on first reading...
Mayor Suarez: Call the roll real quick.
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN ORDINANCE, WITH ATTACHMENTS, REPEALING ZONING
ORDINANCE NO. 9500, AS AMENDED, THE ZONING ORDINANCE
OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA, AND SUBSTITUTING
THEREFORE A NEW ZONING ORDINANCE TO BE KNOWN AND CITED
AS "THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MIAMI,
FLORIDA"; WHICH IS ATTACHED HERETO AS EXHIBIT "A";
MAKING FINDINGS, CONTAINING AUTHORITY, INTENT AND
PURPOSE AND SHORT TITLE SECTIONS; REGULATING LAND,
WATER AND STRUCTURES, USES AND OCCUPANCIES, HEIGHT AND
BULK, DENSITY, LOT COVERAGE, LOT AREA PER DWELLING
UNIT, PARKING AND SIGNS; PROVIDING FOR ADOPTION
THEREIN OF THE OFFICIAL ZONING ATLAS, AND THE OFFICIAL
SCHEDULE OF DISTRICT REGULATIONS; PROVIDING FOR ZONING
DISTRICTS, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICTS, SPECIAL
PUBLIC INTEREST DISTRICTS, HERITAGE CONSERVATION
DISTRICTS; DEFINITIONS AND GENERAL REGULATIONS; DESIGN
STANDARDS; NONCONFORMITIES; PROVIDING FOR FUNCTIONS
AND RESPONSIBILITIES OF CITY COMMISSION OFFICERS, AND
BOARDS; SPECIAL PERMITS; SPECIAL EXCEPTIONS; PROVIDING
FOR APPEALS FROM DECISIONS OF ZONING ADMINISTRATOR AND
DIRECTOR OF PLANNING, ZONING BOARD AND CITY
COMMISSION; PROVIDING FOR VARIANCES; PROVIDING FOR
ENFORCEMENT, VIOLATIONS AND PENALTIES; PROVIDING FOR
AMENDMENTS AND A RESORT TO REMEDIES CLAUSE; CONTAINING
A REPEALER PROVISION AND A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE; AND
PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE 180 DAYS AFTER ITS
ADOPTION.
Was introduced by Commissioner De Yurre and seconded by Mayor Suarez and
was passed on its first reading by title by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Victor De Yurre
Commissioner Miriam Alonso
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
ABSENT: Vice Mayor Miller Dawkins.
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and
announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commission and
to the public.
COMMENTS MADE DURING ROLL CALL:
Mr. Plummer: I'm going to vote no. No, I want to tell you why I'm voting no
and I'm going to give them the chance to make theca get my vote on the second
reading. I don't think we've simplified what we tried to accomplish. We have
set out to simplify the zoning ordinance and I don't think we've done it. I
don't think we've accomplished it. And I would like to have theca come back
before the second reading for a simplified version which is what we asked for
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In the original inception. I will say, for the record, had it been any other
way, I would have voted yes. But I want my no vote to reflect that I think
that simplification more is still needed.
Mayor Suarez: Yes, well I agree with that as far as future amendments.
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COMMENTS MADE FOLLOWING ROLL CALL: —
Commissioner Plummer: OK? It passes and if it had been the other way, I s
would have voted the other way, but just to register...
Mayor Suarez: I just have a question. Did you guys plan this so that Vice
Mayor would not be present because of all the objections. =-
— Mr. Olmedillo: Oh, you planned it. _
Mr. Rodriguez: May I say something? Take one minute?
Mayor Suarez: He would not be - for the same reasons that J.L. stated, he
would not be happy because the simplification hasn't really been enough.
Commissioner Alonso: Remember, we have a second reading.
Mr. Rodriguez: May I take one minute to, Mr. Mayor, to thank all the people
that have been working on this. We have a lot of citizens that we have been
working for, we've had more than one hundred meetings on this and realtor
groups and developers and architects and lawyers and representatives from
different industries and I really have to thank for all the tremendous amount
of time they have put on this. I know that a lot of the negatives have been
emphasized tonight because we're trying to resolve the issues in which we have
differences.
Mayor Suarez: Sure, where there's controversy, there's always an implication
of negative, but it's been an...
• Mr. Rodriguez: But I think I have to tell you that the amount of time put by
these people, not only by them, but also by the staff, has been beyond the
call of duty and I would like to thank publicly with this today.
Mayor Suarez: Now we got through patting everybody on the back.
22. DISCUSS AND CONTINUE (TO SECOND MEETING IN MARCH) CONSIDERATION OF
APPEAL BY OBJECTORS OF ZONING BOARD'S DECISION TO APPROVE PLANNING
DIRECTOR'S APPROVAL OF CLASS C SPECIAL PERMIT FOR PROPOSED 19-STORY (251
UNIT) APARTMENT CONDOMINIUM ("THE OASIS ON BRICKELL").
Mayor Suarez: PZ-9 and then we go to SOS. John Fletcher.
Mr. John Fletcher: Yes, sir, Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Suarez: What do you have to say for yourself?
Mr. Fletcher: John Fletcher, 7600 Red Road, would very much
appreciate a
continuance of this until 7:00 p.m. about two months from now.
We have an
agreement...
Mayor Suarez: Both sides agree?
Mr. Fletcher: Both sides agree, yes.
Mayor Suarez: Because, otherwise, we'd have to swear you all
in but in a
procedural matter, I guess we don't.
Commissioner Plummer: What is the reason for the deferment?
Mr. Fletcher: I understand that the property has been sold to a
new owner and
that they're working possibly on different plans and there's no sense in going
through this.
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Mayor Suarez: It might be acceptable to the neighborhood.
Mr. Fletcher: Yes.
Mayor Suarez: That's great. All right?
Commissioner Plummer: Yes, fine.
Mayor Suarez: I'll entertain a motion to continue for - you want about 60
days?
Mr. Fletcher: About 60 days and at 7:00 p.m. again, if you would, Mr. Mayor.
Mr. Sergio Rodriguez: So it will be for the second meeting in April, the
planning and zoning ►neeting in April at 7:00 p.m.
Mayor Suarez: OK.
Mr. Fletcher: Thank you very much.
Mayor Suarez: Do you want to put your name in the record?
Ms. Kathleen Cooper: Yes, Kathleen Cooper. I'm hero for Tony O'Donnell.
Commissioner Plu:tuner: You're here for who?
Ms. Cooper: Anthony O'Donnell. We represent the property owners.
Mayor Suarez: OK, so we've got the objectors and the property owners. Call
the roll.
Mr. Rodriguez: Mr. Mayor, I'm sorry, I said 90 days, so it should be the
second meeting in March, which is February, I mean, March 22nd, 7:00 p.m.
Mayor Suarez: OK, 7:00 p.m. Call the roll.
ON MOTION DULY MADE BY COMMISSIONER PLUMMER AND
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER ALONSO, PZ-9 WAS CONTINUED TO
THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION METING OF MARCH
22, 1990, AT 7:00 P.M. BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Commissioner Victor De Yurre
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner Miriam Alonso
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Vice Mayor Mille: Dawkins.
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[NOTE: AT THIS POINT, THE CITY COMMISSION CLOSES
CONSIDERATION OF PLANNING AND 'ZONING ITEMS TO CONSIDER
REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS.]
23. DIRECT ADMINISTRATION (PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT) TO COME BACK TO NEXT
CITY COMMISSION MEETING WITH RECOMMENDATION FOR SERIES OF ONE-WAY
STREETS (BETWEEN S.W. 22 AND 24 AVENUES AND S.W. 24 AVENUE INCLUDING
S.W. 27 TERRACE, 27 LANE AND S.W. 28 STREET ) - IMPLEMENTATION OF SAID
ONE-WAY STREET DIRECTIONS TO BE IMPLEMENTED FOR PERIOD OF 90 DAYS.
Mayor Suarez: On item six of the regular items, which is the one we've been
calling SOS, how many people are here to speak on behalf of having some sort
of a - what are we proposing? -a barricade?
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: We're against the barricades.
Mayor Suarez: Raise your hand if you're in favor of the barricade. Is that
generally what the red shirts and the SOS mean? OK, how many people are
against the barricades, raise your hand. All right. Are you organized on the
pro side to give us like, maximum of two or three speakers, please.
Commissioner Plummer: There's only three people that are opposed. So you got
three speakers there.
Mayor Suarez: OK, yes, that's what I'm saying, and then we'll limit your
entire presentation to six minutes and your entire presentation to six
minutes. If there's only two of you, then you have three minutes each or
however you want to split it.
Commissioner Plummer: Mr. Mayor, could we hear first from the department,
what they're recommending if it...
Mayor Suarez: And let's hear it from the department on the recommendations.
It's just the one street, right? It's a little less complicated then.
Commissioner Plummer: Well, it is more than one street, that's the problem.
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: More than one street.
Mayor Suarez It impacts more.
Commissioner Plummer: Right. It's one street, but impacts a number.
Mr. Luis Prieto: I'd like to use this diagram to show the effect of the
present barricades running, of course, on 27th and Tigertail. The result of
this barrier of westward movement by the neighbors here has forced them to
move along 28th Street and, of course, Tigertail, and that's, of course, the
reason that they're interested in putting barricades on 28th, 27th. However,
obviously, the problem here is that it is almost impassable right now except
to take U.S. 1 and Tigertail that presently has in excess of 8,000 vehicles
per day from previous counts. It would be impossible to pass through here
unless we permitted 28th to remain open.
Commissioner Plummer: Eight thousand for streets that were designed for five
hundred.
Mr. Prieto: I believe all the departments, including Police, Fire, Public
Works in the City are opposed to closing 28th Street or 27th Lane and we also
have Metro on record opposing that. closure.
Commissioner Plummer: OK, that's fine. Now, what do you do to eliminate
8,000 cars a day on a street designed for five hundred?
(Applause)
141 January 25, 1990
Mr. Prieto: I appreciate the neighbors problems. What we can do is the _
following. There's several alternatives that I hope the citizens will _
consider here and the Commissioners tonight. One is to place along 28th
Street two traffic control devices. One at L,ucaya, one at 23rd Street.
Commissioner Plummer: What do you call a traffic control device?
Mr. Prieto: These are devices that diminish the speed and sort of
discourage...
Mayor Suarez: Describe the physical characteristics. What are you talking
about, Dr. Prieto?
Commissioner Plummer: What is a traffic control device?
Mayor Suarez: Don't give me a metaphysical definition.
Commissioner Plummer: Is that a foot and a half bumper?
Mr. Prieto: Yes, sir.
Commissioner De Yurre: No, it's a wall.
Mr. Prieto: I'll show you three possibilities.
Mayor Suarez: There we go.
Mr. Prieto: Now these do not discourage, of course, local people from
using...
Mayor Suarez: What do they look like, Dr. Prieto?
Mr. Prieto: All right. This is the least innocuous one and it would mean
raising the intersection about 4 inches. We can make it more. What it would
make is a very unpalatable transition at high speed.
Mayor Suarez: And if you got some kind of a nut driving, he'll go up into
outer space as he comes through at 60 miles an hour.
Mr. Prieto: It would loosen...
Commissioner Alanso: You should not be going 60 miles an hour anyways.
Mr. Prieto: It would loosen some teeth, that's right. —
Mayor Suarez: I mean, the effect is that it discourages because it's
dangerous if you go over them fast is the idea.
Mr. Prieto: That's right, sir.
Mayor Suarez: I didn't mean to be facetious, I mean, that's just trying to
get through this here.
Mr. Prieto: Right.
Mayor Suarez: That's one alternative, that's interesting.
Mr. Prieto: Second alternative is what are called chokers. Chokers are
reinforced concrete curbs that essentially force the traffic to move aside
from the center line and has an effect of reducing the speed. The third in
the most...
Mayor Suarez: So, the old squeeze them over to the side and hope he slows
down trick.
Commissioner Plummer: Which is the one that is the most obnoxious?
Mr. Prieto: The third one, sir.
Mayor Suarez: He's winding up. He's going to give you a good one now.
What's the most obnoxious?
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Mr. Prieto: The traffic cir...
Mayor Suarez: Oh, look at that!
Commissioner Plummer: What in the hell is that?
Commissioner Alonso: Circle in the center could be wider.
Mr. Prieto: A traffic circle we can make it with sufficient diameter that
really forces these people... by the way, these are 30 miles per hour streets
and we have...
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Mayor Suarez: Theoretically, theoretically.
Mr. Prieto: We have had personnel out there counting traffic and we have —
clocked 55 miles per hour on some occasions.
Commissioner Plummer: Oh, yes.
Mr. Prieto: So we recognize the problem. Now, the traffic circle can be made -
_ sufficiently large so - in fact, we can place an oak tree in the middle, if
you want to - so that it will force people to physically come down at least 15 =_
miles per hour to go around the traffic circle without hitting the curb. Now, —_
these are...
Mayor, Suarez: OK, for creative award of the year, I nominate our Public Works
Director, Dr. Prieto. You have been most creative. All right.
f-
Mr. Prieto: Now, there is a fourth alternative and the...
Mayor Suarez: He wants to win a double award.
Commissioner Plummer: We're getting more obnoxious each time. Go ahead.
Mr. Prieto: This is the least obnoxious.
Commissioner Plummer: No, no, no, no...
Mr. Prieto: But it may, in fact, it's an inspiration from the higher
authorities and I think it really has some...
Mayor Suarez: This is not Commissioner Alonso you're talking about?
Mr. Prieto: Yes, sir, I am.
Commissioner Alonso: No, that was a problem that I had when I was living in _
the Maryland area, I was living in a new development and I got all the traffic
in front of my street, in front of my house, and we requested that one way
street and it did improve the situation because I know what it is to live in a
street that gets the traffic from the entire area. I know exactly what it is.
So I suggested that perhaps as an alternative...
Mayor Suarez: A one way.
Commissioner Alonso: ...we don't get this maybe a one way.... _
- Mr. Prieto: Well, the problems on 28th Street...
Mayor Suarez: Could we do that on South Miami Avenue where I live?
Commissioner Alonso: Come on, Mayor. -
Mayor Suarez: Make it one way in the direction I happen to be going in. All
right, go ahead.
Mr. Prieto: We would suggest only westbound traffic on 28th Street. That
would eliminate most of the speeders that seem to be going eastbound on that
traffic, especially on morning rush hours, to be able to bypass the region.
here of U.S. 1. We would then have eastbound traffic on 27th Lane. We would
keep this small portion right here: where the Burger King is as a two way
traffic and we would simply have the sign here barring entrance eastbound.
143 January 25, 1990
INAUDIBLE COMMENTS NOT ENTERED INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD.
Mayor Suarez: Please, please, please. You're going to get your number of
turns here, minutes and so on. Go ahead, Doctor.
Mr. Prieto: I believe that this would accomplish also the purpose of reducing
the through traffic and would reduce the traffic essentially to local traffic,
which is the intent.
Commissioner Plummer.- Let me ask if there isn't a in between? What happens
if you were to make the street, 28th Street - hold it still, you're making me
dizzy...
Mr. Prieto: I'm sorry, sir.
Commissioner Plummer: Let's just, for example, say 28th Street one way going
west to 24th Avenue and one way east from 27th to 24th Avenue and the reverse
on 27th Lane. You follow what I'm saying?
Mr. Prieto: Yes, let me put some arrows here. Start over again.
Commissioner Plummer: On 28th Street...
Mr. Prieto: Right.
Commissioner Plummer: ...go one way east...
Mr. Prieto: One way east, OK.
Commissioner Plummer: ...to 24th Avenue.
Mr. Prieto: To 24th. This is 24th right here.
Commissioner Plummer: That's correct.
Mr. Prieto: So, you would only go east in this direction.
Commissioner Plummer: Right, and from 24th to 27th Avenue, one way west and
the opposite on 27th Lane., Why wouldn't that be a better compromise?
Mr. Prieto: Sure, that's fine. Essentially, that would dissuade any through
traffic and it would keep local traffic.
Commissioner Plummer: Exactly. It would eliminate all the way through
traffic. Why won't it work?
Mr. Jerry Stankovich: My name's Jerry Stankovich, I live at 2505 S.W. 28th
Street. Because the coming in in the morning come off 24th - you'll see
people coming... in the afternoon rush hour, come off of 24th Ave., they turn
right onto 28th Street...
Commissioner Plummer: All right, then reverse it. Just reverse it then.
Mr. Stankovich: Then you got the morning rush hour going the opposite way,
down 28th to 24th.
Commissioner Plummer: But, no, no, they can't do it. They can't do it in the
morning.
Mr. Stankovich: Why not?
Commissioner Plummer: Because they can only go so far.
Commissioner Alonso: It's one way.
Mr. Stankovich: No, they go to 24th Avenue and then they turn and go on to
U.S. 1. You're right.
Commissioner Plummer: All right then, let's...
Mr. Stankovich: Believe me, it's...
144 January 25, 1990
Commissioner Plummer: Well, hold on, wait a minute.
Mr. Stankovich: Go ahead.
Commissioner Plummer: I'm with you, remember? Let's make 24th Avenue one
way.
Mr. Stankovich: Then Mr. Healey can't get out of his house.
Commissioner Plummer: That's his problem. No, he's got two accesses. He's
got Calusa, he's got 24th Street - 28th Street.
INAUDIBLE COMMENTS NOT ENTERED INTO THE PUBLTC RECORD.
Commissioner Plummer: I'm asking, will that accomplish, without putting up
the barricades?
Mr. Stankovich: Which way are you going to make 24th Ave...
Commissioner Plummer: Whichever way you want. I don't give a damn. Which
way you want it?
Mayor Suarez: He means, he doesn't give a hoot.
Commissioner Plummer: A hoot.
Mayor Suarez: For the record.
Commissioner Plummer: Which way you want it?
Mr. Carl Lambert: It'll help if they turn it back on so we can see it.
Commissioner Plummer: Turn it back on. OK, I'll tell you, I am ready to go
with humps. That will slow them down for sure.
Mayor Suarez: Is that the same thing as the bumps?
Commissioner Plummer: The humps and the bumps. All right.
Mayor Suarez: All right, all right, all right. We got the idea, you want the
barricade.
Commissioner Plummer: Doctor, I ask you again, if you make those with 24th
Avenue one way either north or south, whichever is most advantageous, will
that accomplish the saine thing?
Mr. Prieto: Yes, sir, I believe it would.
Commissioner Plummer: Do you all agree or disagree?
Mr. Lambert: Well, the problem is that they can accelerate up to the next
stop.
Mayor Suarez: Did you put your name in the record so the...
Mr. Lambert: Carl Lambert, 2500 S.W. 28th Street.
Mayor Suarez: Carl, did you also get sworn in and all of those things? I'm
sorry, you don't need to get sworn in in this part of the agenda, thank God.
Air. Lambert: Right. Our position is that we are willing to do what will
work. There's nothing magic that we want. We just obviously need some
protection on this street. We appreciate Dr. Prieto being so imaginative in
these matters, but the first things that he proposed will not work because no
matter how the traffic is slowed down, they can accelerate from that point up
to the corner of 24th. The one way streets have some merit, they appear to.
All these people live on the street too. It's certainly up to them. Do you
think we ought to try it for a while?
Mr. Stankovich: Why can't we get the barricades that we're asking for?
145 January 25, 1990
Mayor Suarez: I'm ready to vote for the barricade but where are we here at
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this juncture now? Have the opponents completed their presentation?
Mr. Dominic Lamberti: My name's Dominic Lamberti. I live on 2330 S.W. 27th
Terrace. We'd like to be able to get out of the neighborhood without going on
_
Tigertail or U.S. 1 because these streets are already very crowded and it's
very difficult as it is with the other barricades on Aviation that have been
put in. We understand the problems they have on 28th Street but when they
ai
bought houses there, it was the same problem.
-_ (SHOUTING FROM THE AUDIENCE)
Mayor Suarez: Please, please, please... All right, we're going to finish
_
this hearing tonight with some semblance of order. Please, you'll get a
chance to speak and, believe me, your numbers speak for themselves, so please
;
let him finish.
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Mr. Lamberti: And I don't think the problem is the local residents. I think
—
the local residents should be able to use the street, but we want to keep out
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the people driving through to get to other areas of the City. That's the
problem. So...
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Mayor Suarez: What do you suggest? Any particular...
F
Mr. Lamberti: The one way program looks great.
Mayor Suarez: OK.
Mr. Lamberti: Because that will let us use the streets and keep the speeders
out.
Mayor Suarez: OK, at least in one direction you can use it.
Commissioner Plummer: Well, if you go with on 28th Street, first of all, from
27th to 24th Avenue, one way east. From 22nd Avenue to 24th Avenue, one way,
west. And from 26th Avenue to 24th Avenue, on 27th Lane, west and from 24th
to 22nd Avenue, east, and 24th Avenue, north.
INAUDIBLE COMMENTS NOT ENTERED INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD.
Mr. Prieto: No, it's exactly the opposite. It's exactly opposite from what I
have it. Let me...
Commissioner Plummer: Well, the only problem that you have there is if you go
with the one way on 24th Avenue south, when you come down 28th Street, you've
got to turn around and go back. That's why that won't work.
Mr. Prieto: If the Commission would permit the department to study the one
way traffic, meet with the residents, reach some sort of compromise, we would
like to, perhaps, accommodate them on this issue.
Mayor Suarez: OK, please, don't interrupt. If - put it this way - if - wait,
ma'am, wait - if the -and then I'm going to move at some point the barricades,
but if that doesn't pass, what he's saying is that we still have one other
shot at trying to come up with a scheme.
Commissioner Plummer: Well, wait, let me ask you this question. Where would
you put the barricade?
INAUDIBLE COMMENTS NOT ENTERED INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD.
Commissioner Plummer: I'm asking him, you're not making the motion.
Mayor Suarez: What is the proposal as far as the barricade?
Mr. Prieto: We can't put a barricade there, Mr. Mayor. We simply can't move
the...
Mayor Suarez: What is the proposal before us tonight?
Mr. Prieto: The proposal tonight is essentially to place control devices on
23rd and a control device on Lucaya.
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Mayor Suarez:
What are you asking for?
UNIDENTIFIED
SPEAKER: We're asking for a barricade near 26th Avenue. This is
the ninth time we've been here so I don't...
Mayor Suarez:
Don't tell me near, on what street? Aren't you asking for a
'=
- barricade at
the mouth of 28th Street there?-
UNIDENTIFIED
SPEAKER: No, no. Twenty-sixth Avenue. We want to leave Burger
King the way
it is and put it...
Mr. Prieto:
Right here...
ti
Commissioner
Alonso: Twenty-eighth Street and 26th Avenue is where they want
the barricade.
Mayor Suarez:
Aren't' you asking for a barricade on 28th Street? Isn't that
what you...?
UNIDENTIFIED
SPEAKER: 28th Street and 26th Avenue.
_ Mayor Suarez:
Yes, roughly...
_ UNIDENTIFIED
SPEAKER: It will leave Burger King...
Mayor Suarez:
Presumably on the west side of 26th Avenue, right?
Commissioner
Plummer: Yes, right.
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Mayor Suarez:
So that people could at least...
UNIDENTIFIED
SPEAKER: Eaot side.
— UNIDENTIFIED
SPEAKER: It's the east side.
Mayor Suarez:
The east side, you're right, Thank you.
Ms. Chris Ann Lamberti: Mr. Mayor, just for the record, my name is Chris Ann
Lamberti, I
reside at 2330 S.W. 27th Terrace. We, as residents of the
neighborhood,
were not notified of this meeting. That is why our numbers are
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not here tonight.
Mayor Suarez:
I was wondering about that.
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Ms. Lamberti:
We were not notified.
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mw Mayor Suarez:
Because I remember...
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= Ms. Lamberti:
We found out about it yesterday morning.
—_ Mayor Suarez: When the issue was first - I guess, if you've been following
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the saga of this, it's been how many meetings?
UNIDENTIFIED
SPEAKER: Two years.
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Commissioner
Plummer: You're on what?-27th...
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Ms. Lamberti:
Terrace.
— Commissioner
Plummer: Terrace.
= Ms. Lamberti: 27th Terrace and because of the barricades on Swanson, which
leads to the
stop light, the traffic light at Bird, which was a main entry and
exit point for everyone in the neighborhood, and be it known I lived on Trapp
- Avenue for a
year. I'm very aware of what goes on over there. We looked for
a house to buy in our same neighborhood and we found it. And now you're
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telling me I
can't get out unless I hit a major six lane highway and I really_
resent that.
Commissioner
Plummer: Which one is 27th Terrace?
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UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: The one just south of So. Dixie Highway.
Commissioner Plummer: Well, let me ask this question. Why can't we extend
down to their street a one way pattern?
Ms. Lamberti: That doesn't bother me at all. I just want to be able to get
In and out of the neighborhood.
Commissioner Plummer: Well, a one way street doesn't prohibit that.
Ms. Lamberti: No.
Ms. Cindy Cashew: The frightening thing is that barricades are put up on
those two streets. I'm sorry, barricades are put up on those two streets,
that leaves 27th Terrace, the only open street in that area, the only one and
we're open from - excuse me - we're open from South Dixie Highway straight
through to 27th Avenue and if our street is the only open street in that area,
our lives will be a living hell, believe me. If you think they're having
problems now, wait and see what will happen then. 'ale need....
Mr. Bob Healy: Your Honor, it does not run to 27th Avenue. It runs to 26th
Avenue.
Ms. Lamberti: Twenty-second.
Ms. Cashew: Twenty-second, I'm sorry, twenty-second. From South Dixie
Highway to 22nd.
Commissioner Plummer: Just extend the one way streets down to them.
Ms. Cindy Cashew; That is an excellent idea and it is a community solution to
a community problem. It's not going to solve anything to shift their burden
to our street. That's not a solution. The idea of one alternate one way
streets is ari excellent idea...
Mr. Bob Healy: Then why not remove all the barricades then?
Ms. Cashew: Absolutely!
Mr. Healy: Take them all away)
Ms. Cashew: Absolutely, absolutely9
Mr. Healy: What she's saying is, we're going to dump on her but we've been
dumped on ourselves.
Mayor Suarez: Yea, that's certainly the case. The only reason I found at the
time for voting one way on the southern end, or what I call the southern tier
and differently on the northern tier, which is what we're dealing with now,
was that he southern tier had this diagonal pattern which lends itself more to
sort of a neighborhood feeling. The northern tier, it's sort of parallel to
U.S. 1 and people, I suppose, have the expectation that when they bought
there, that people would use that as an alternative route to U.S. 1. That's
the only...
Me. Lamberti: That's a false thought.
Mr. Healy: Your honor, they used to run county buses on those streets back
there. They never ran a county bus on 28th Street. But they ran county buses
through the streets behind our house. So, therefore, they had less
expectations than we did. We never had a bus.
Ms. Lamberti: One other thing to be pointed out as was pointed out last May,
that 28th Street had a large number of expectation by the county what they
expected that street to carry and then on 27th Terrace, the part that angles
off the highway is not much wider than a decent alley. And if you're asking
that to be the south entry point because all the other roads are blocked, you
will have serious problems.
Mayor Suarez: All right, we, on this Commission, are about as familiar with
this issue as any. The only possible person that would want to know more
would be Commission Alonso. She hasn't been here that long and she hasn't
seen the first seven of these hearings - eight - well, there's eight
altogether, so presumably, there were seven. Whatever. I am not going to
allow this to continue this argument. This Commission has got to make up its --
mind. There's one possible alternative that has been proposed tonight that
seems to have some acceptance and that's the one way street scheme. If we, as _
a Commission, cannot agree to having the barricade on 28th Street and it's
just up to the Commission. We have to decide. I don't know, I'm not going to
have constant...
Mr. Stankovich: Could I ask one more question?
INAUDIBLE COMMENTS NOT ENTERED INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD,
Mayor Suarez: Or a combination of the barricade on 28th Street and one way
streets for the rest of the neighborhood, which is is a hybrid....
Commissioner Plummer: I'll move, Mr....
Mr. Stankovich: Could I just mention one last thing? We're obviously fairly
frustrated too, OK, about the whole thing.
Mayor Suarez: Yes.
Mr. Stankovich: I think, at this point, nobody wants to give up the
barricades.
Mayor Suarez: Did you put your name in the record?
Mr. Stankovich: Yes, I did. Nobody wants to give up the barricades because
we're afraid, everytime we've asked for something, we got nothing. And it's
been for 2 years we've got nothing, so people are afraid to do that. Now, I
think the consensus... I don't know, I'm speaking for a small group of us that
were talking. We're willing to try something different than a barricade. If
it works, but we would like the Commission to tell us if it doesn't work, you
will continue to work for u�j to get something that will work.
Mayor Suarez: Well, that's the danger. That's a danger, frankly, because it
gets to the point that the Commission just cannot have this issue keep coming
up and up, you know, all the time. So, anyhow, J. L., you were going to
propose something?
Commissioner Plummer: I'll move, Mr. Mayor, that the public, works come back
to this Commission at the next.... you want to do it now? Not the
barricades. No.
(SHOUTING FROM THE AUDIENCE)
Mayor Suarez: No, no, we know that you want the barricades.
Ms. Lambertini: Excuse me, numbers were not available.
Mayor Suarez: Please, please! The Commission is discussing this issue and no
one else at this point. All participation from the residents is prohibited.
Commissioner Plummer: I'll make a motion that the Public Works Department
come back at the next Commission Meeting with a series of one way streets
basically outlined as they were here this evening. Different one ways between
22 and 24 Avenue and 24th Avenue itself, including 27th Terrace, 27th Lane,
and 28th Street.
Mayor Suarez: Let me tell you, as to the numbers up here, just so you don't
go away thinking we didn't try. I have one Commissioner on my right who's
against the barricades flat out. I'm in favor generally and we have one that
has just proposed an alternative scheme. It. doesn't look like the composition
tonight you're going to get the barricade anyhow. So - without Commissioner
Dawkins - so that's just a fact of life, OK? That's a numerical fact of life.
Commissioner Plummer: Well, let me give them a little peace of mind, OK?
We'll try that for 90 days. All right? If that doesn't work, as much as I
hate it, I'll vote for the barricades. OK?
(Applause)
149 January 25, 1990
Mayor Suarez: OK, the motion then is to implement a one way street...
Mr. Stankevich: Could we make the suggestions?
- -
Mayor Suarez: ...no, no you clapped at the wrong time. He meant 90 days of
the one way traffic pattern.
Commissioner Plummer: If it doesn't work in 90 days...
Mayor Suarez: Then, we try...
Commissioner Plummer: ...we'll come back and I'll vote for barricades.
Mr. Stankevich: Yes, but can we pick which way it's going to go? Can we be
part of this?
Mayor Suarez: I'm sorry?
Mr. Healy: Can we be part of this?
Commissioner Plummer: Sure.
Mayor Suarez: Oh, yes.
Commissioner Plummer: Sure. As far as I'm concerned, you can. Meet with
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him. Whatever meets the most - whatever does the most good is what I'm
looking for.
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Ms. Lamberti: Can we guarantee that the other residents will get some
notification for the next meeting?
Mayor Suarez: Yes, yes, yes, yes.
Ms. Lamberti: Thank you.
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Commissioner Plummer: Well, I would sure hope so because we're including all
—
three streets. Why don't you do this, Doctor. Why don't you have a meeting
with these people in that neighborhood of all three streets. We will not
accept anything less than a one way pattern coming back so that they know from
right now. So what we're asking you to do is to go to these people, come up
with a system that will be a one way street of significant nature to
accomplish what they need.
Mayor Suarez: OK, that's in the form of a motion for a 90 day trial period
from the moment of implementation...
Commissioner De Yurre: I'll second the motion.
Mayor Suarez: ... and then to come back if not satisfactory for review and
possible implementation of barricades. You know, I've said how I would vote.
Commissioner Plummer: Barricades might work in my neighborhood.
Mayor Suarez: Oh, barricades would be great in my neighborhood, but I'm not
even proposing that at this point. OK, we have a motion, do we have a second?
INAUDIBLE COMMENTS NOT ENTERED INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD.
Mayor Suarez: I don't know. Some people - some Commissioners feel that we
should have never tried any barricades anywhere, that it just created more of
a problem for our community.
Mr. Healy: Right. Take them down.
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: Take them down.
Mayor Suarez: I don't agree but I...
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: ...started a problem.
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Mayor Suarez: I know, I know, I know. Some neighborhoods were planned from
the start with barricades, for example, Bay Point, which 3.9 totally closed
off. Anyhow, we have a motion. Do we have a second? Somebody second.
Commissioner De Yurre: I seconded it.
Commissioner Alonso: Yes, Victor did.
Mayor Suarez: Oh. Any discussion? If not, please call the roll.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved
its adoption:
MOTION NO. 90-89
A MOTION INSTRUCTING THE CITY MANAGER TO DIRECT THE
PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT TO COME BACK AT THE NEXT CITY
COMMISSION MEETING WITH A RECOMMENDATION FOR A SERIES
OF ONE-WAY STREETS (BETWEEN S.W. 22 AND S.W. 24
AVENUES, AND S.W. 24 AVENUE, INCLUDING S.W. 27
TERRACE, 27 LANE AND S.W. 28 STREET); FURTHER STATING
THAT THE AFOREMENTIONED ONE-WAY STREETS PROPOSAL WOULD
ONLY BE IMPLEMENTED FOR A PERIOD OF NINETY DAYS.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner De Yurre, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Victor De Yurre
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner Miriam Alonso
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Vice Mayor Miller Dawkins.
24. BRIEF COMMENTS BY COMMISSIONER PLUMMER CONCERNING FOOD PROGRAM DRIVE TO
BE CONDUCTED AMONG CITY EMPLOYEES.
Commissioner Plummer: Oh, Mr. Mayor...
Mayor Suarez: Yes.
Commissioner Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I've been asked by Thelma of my staff - what
the hell did I do with it?
Commissioner De Yurre: Twenty thousand dollars for what?
Commissioner Plummer: No, they would like to have a food drive for the
migrant workers of all the City departments and if you would, please spread
the word that they will so help out and foster the drive.
Mayor Suarez: Absolutely. You know, if the new school superintendent wants
to put that on his... he has a system of communicating with all the schools,
whatever it's celled, it's very effective, 280,000 students get it.
Commissioner Plummer: I'll recommend it to Thelma.
Mayor Suarez: OK, this session is adjourned.
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THE BRING NO FURTHER BUSINESS TO COME BEFORE THE CITY
COMMISSIOff. THE ME ING WAS ADJOURNED AT 9:11 P.H.
ATTEST:
Natty Hirai
CITY CLERK
Walter J. Foeman
ASSISTANT CITY CLERK
Xavier L. Suarez
M A Y O R
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GRANT REQUEST FROM BALLET CONCERTO COMPANY/CUBAN FOLKLORE
OF MIAMI FOR WAIVER OF RENTAL FEES AND PERCENTAGE OF GROSS
TICKETS SALES FOR USE OF THE MANUEL ARTIME PERFORMING ARTS
CENTER FOR CERTAIN DAYS IN 1990.
ACCEPT BID: DADE PAVING CORPORATION �- FOR LOCAL DRAINAGE
PROJECT E-61 - AUTHORIZE EXECUTION OF CONTRACT.
ACCEPT BID: M. VIVA ASSOCIATES, INC. - ALTERNATE BASE BID
PROPOSAL FOR DOUGLAS PARK - PARKING LOT RENOVATIONS -
AUTHORIZE EXECUTION OF CONTRACT.
ESTABLISH SPECIAL MOORING AND DOCKAGE FEE FOR USE OF AVAILABLE
SLIPS AT MIAMARINA CONCERNING THE MIAMI INTERNATIONAL BOAT
SHOW.
ESTABLISH SPECIAL CHARGES/TERMS/CONDITIONS FOR USE OF ORANGE
BOWL STADIUM BY POLYSPORT, INC. - FOR PRESENTATION OF THE
CARIBBEAN BASEBALL WORLD SERIES.
ACCEPT A SET FLAT FEE OF $15,000 AS MINIMUM GUARANTEE FROM
THE NATIONAL MARINE MANUFACTURERS ASSOCIATION -- CONCERNING
ITS "PARK AND RIDE" SERVICE ON WATSON ISLAND DURING THE
MIAMI INTERNATIONAL BOAT SHOW.
ACCEPT BID: FRANK J. MORAN, INC. - FOR REPLACEMENT OF A
183-CELL SUPPLY TO CITY'S COMPUTER DEPARTMENT *- FOR
REHABILITATION OF ITS UPS BATTERY BANK WHICH SUPPORTS POWER
SUPPLY FOR THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMUNICATIONS SYSTEM- FOR
DEPARTMENT OF F.S.A.
AUTHORIZE EXECUTION OF AMENDMENT TO INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT AND
CONTPACT BY AND BETWEEN CITY OF MIAMI, METROPOLITAN DADE
COUNTY, MIAMI BEACH AND VILLAGE OF BAL HARBOUR AND THE GREATER
MIAMI CONVENTION AND VISITORS BUREAU TO CARRY OUT CONVENTION
PROMOTIONS, BOOKING AND SALES ACTIVITIES ON BEHALF OF THE
PARTICIPATING PUBLIC AGENCIES. WITH FUNDS THEREFOR BEING
ALLOCATED IN A AMOUNT OF (.100Y000) DOLLARS FROM METRO-DADE
TOURIST BED TAX FUND MONIES.
RATIFY CITX MANAGERIS ACTION IN EXECUTION AGREEMENT WITH AMY
H. JORDEN TO PROVIDE ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANCE TO THE
MAYOR'S OFFICE.
CORRECT SCRIVENER'S ERROR BY FINDING THAT PAGES 6 AND 7
(EXHIBIT "A") WERE INADVERTENTLY OMITTED AND SHOULD HAVE
BEEN INCLUDED AS EXHIBIT "B" OF RESOLUTION 89-989
(OCTOBER 26, 1989) - A MAJOR USE PERMIT WHICH APPROVED TWO
PARKING STRUCTURES FOR STATE OF FLORIDA DADE COUNTY REGIONAL
SERVICE CENTER PROJECT.
(RESOLUTIONS)
90-0066
90-0067
90-0068
9i�
90�-0070
90-0074
90-0075
90-0076
90-0078