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RESOLUTION NO. - 17
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A RESOLUTION REVERSING THE DECISION OF THE
ZONING BOARD AND DENYING THE SPECIAL
EXCEPTION CONDITIONALLY GRANTED BY SAID BOARD
PURSUANT TO ORDINANCE NO. 11000, AS AMENDED,
THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MIAMI,
FLORIDA, ARTICLE 4, SECTION 401, I INDUSTRIAL
AND C-2 LIBERAL COMMERCIAL, ENTITLED
"CONDITIONAL PRINCIPAL USES: 2. RESCUE
MISSIONS AND OTHER TRANSIENT RESIDENTIAL
FACILITIES BY SPECIAL EXCEPTION ONLY ....",
TO ALLOW CONSTRUCTION AND OPERATION OF A
RESCUE MISSION AND TRANSIENT FACILITY FOR THE
PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1801 NORTHWEST MIAMI
COURT, MIAMI, FLORIDA, ALSO DESCRIBED AS ALL
OF BLOCK 21 LYING WEST OF FEC RIGHT-OF-WAY,
JOHNSON AND WADDELL'S ADDITION TO THE CITY OF
MIAMI, AS RECORDED IN PLAT BOOK B AT PAGE 53,
OF THE PUBLIC RECORDS OF DADE COUNTY FLORIDA,
ALSO TRACT 19A, BLOCK 211 REPLAT OF JOHNSON
AND WADDELL'S ADDITION, AS RECORDED IN PLAT
BOOK 50 AT PAGE 15, OF THE PUBLIC RECORDS OF
DADE COUNTY, FLORIDA.
WHEREAS, the Miami Zoning Board at its meeting of
November 19, 1990, Item No. 3, duly adopted Resolution ZB 107-90
by a six to one (6-1) vote, granting a special exception, as set
forth herein; and
WHEREAS, neighbors have taken an appeal to the City
Commission from the Zoning Board's decision; and
WHEREAS, the City Commission after careful consideration of
this matter, notwithstanding the decision of the Zoning Board
finds that the application for a Special Exception does not meet
the applicable requirements of Zoning Ordinance No. 11000;
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED BY THE COMMISSION OF THE CITY
OF MIAMI, FLORIDA:
Section 1. The recitals and findings contained in the
Preamble to this Resolution are hereby adopted by reference
thereto and incorporated herein as if fully set forth in this
Section.
Section 2. The decision of the Zoning Board in
conditionally granting a special exception
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Ordinance No. 11000, as amended, the Zoning Ordinance of the City
of Miami, Florida, Article 4, Section 401, I Industrial and C--2
Liberal Commercial, entitled "Conditional Principal Uses: 2.
Rescue missions and other transient residential facilities by
Special Exception only ....", to allow construction and operation
of a rescue mission and transient facility for the property
located at 1801 Northwest Miami Court, Miami, Florida, also
described as all of Block 21 lying West of FEC right-of-way,
JOHNSON AND WADDELL'S ADDITION to the City of Miami, as recorded
in Plat Book B at Page 53, of the Public Records of Dade County,
Florida, also Tract 19A. Block 21, replat of JOHNSON AND
WADDELL'S ADDITION as recorded in Plat Book 50 at Page 15, of the
Public Records of Dade County, Florida, is reversed and the
special exception is hereby denied.
Section 3. This Resolution shall become effective
immediately upon its adoption.
PASSED AND ADOPTED this 28th day of Februar
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ATTEST
MATTY IRAI, CITY CLERK
, 1991.
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PREPARED AND APPROVED BY: APPROVED AS TO FORM AND:
CORRECTNESS:
G. MIRIAM MAE JOIRGE'LERNANDEZ
CHIEF ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY CITY AT. EY ;
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DATE:
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Robert H. Traurig
Adrienne L. Friesner
January 22, 1991
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record in connection with
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Matty Hira
City Clerk
Camillus House - 1801 N.W. Miami Court
The letter of appeal (attached) which was filed on November
30, 1990, by various individuals, lists the following reasons as
to why the appeal is being taken:
I. The proposal violates the City's Comprehensive Plan which
precludes residential units in industrial areas.
II. A special exception for a Community Based Residential Facility
use was not requested, although the same is required by
special exception approval by the City Commission.
III. The proposal does not meet the standards for a special
exception and conditional use.
IV. The is not compatible with the area and will be
proposal
detrimental to the public, including the undersigned.
This memorandum addresses each of the concerns raised in the
letter of appeal.
I. The proposal violates.the City's Comprehensive Plan
which precludes residential units in industrial,
areas.
$espouse: The Miami Comprehensive Neighborhood Plan
("Comprehensive Plan") does not preclude residential units in
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industrial areas.
The consistency of existing zoning regulations with the
Future Land Use Plan Map is to be determined by the Planning
Director of the City of Miami. At the Zoning Board meeting of
November 19, 1990, Mr. Guillermo olmedillo, Deputy Planning
Director, stated on the record that the issuance of the Special
Exception for a rescue mission and transient facility for the
property located at 1801 N.W. Miami, Court, Miami, Florida, was
consistent with the Miami Comprehensive Neighborhood Plan.
The interpretation of the Future Land Use Plan Map ;or
the industrial district does not specifically prohibit rescue`':
missions and transient facilities in industrial districts. The
language in the Comprehensive Plan for the indust 1 d ct
presently provides as follows:
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' Industrial: This land use designation applies
to both light and heavy industry as further
delineated in the City of Miami's zoning code.
Both designations generally permit a wide
variety of manufacturing, assembly, repair and
storage activities. The Light Industry
category generally limits uses to industries
that do not generate excessive amounts of
noise, smoke, fumes, illumination, traffic,
hazardous wastes, or negative visual impact.
The Heavy Industry category, on the other
hand, permits the most intense and noxious
uses: i.g., stockyards, slaughterhouses,
wrecking yards, cement plants, paper fac-
tories, fireworks manufacturing, refining,
smelting and forging. All of these uses
create major problems involving noise, smoke,
and odors. Heavy Industry should be directed
away from standard residential, office or
commercial uses.
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Amendments to the text of Comprehensive Plan are
scheduled to be heard by the City Commission on second reading on
January 24, 1991 (Item PZ-23). The proposed language is as
follows:
Industrial: The areas designated as
"Industrial" allow manufacturing, assembly and
storage activities. The "Industrial" designa-
tion generally includes activities that would
otherwise generate excessive amounts of noise,
smoke, fumes, illumination, traffic, hazardous
wastes, or negative visual impact unless
properly controlled. Stockyards, rendering
works, smelting and refining plants and
similar activities are excludes. Residential
uses are not permitted in the "Industrial"
designation. except for rescue missions, for rescue missions, and
liveaboards in commercial marinas.
The following language from the Housing Element of the
Miami Comprehensive Neighborhood Plan, Vol II, Goals, Objective and
Policies, helps support the rescue mission and transient facility
and provides in part:
Objective 1.4: Participate in a regional
effort to reduce the number of homeless per-
sons by at least 15 percent by 1995 and by 30
percent by the year 2000.
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Policy 1.4.3: The City will work with non-
profit community organizations, and local,
state and federal agencies to increase the
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capacity of temporary emergency shelter
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the homeless for the purposes of: a) increas-
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permanent housing; and, d) securing employment
and eventually moving them out of poverty
status.
Policy 1.4.5: The City will continue and
expand its efforts to acquire and administer
federal and state financial aid for homeless
assistance.
shelter capacity that stems from redevelopment
or revitalization activities. (emphasis
added) .
The Miami Comprehensive Neighborhood Plan, Volume III,
Part I, Neighborhood: Data and Analysis/Goals, Objectives and
Policies, also provides support and states in part:
Overtown Community Development Target Area
Human/Public Service
Goal 1: Provide adequate health care, educa-
tional and other public services, facilities
and programs.
Objective 1.1: Maintain and improve the
delivery (quality and efficiency) of human and
public services to residents and the business
community.
Pursuant to Guillermo Olmedillo, Deputy Planning Direc-
tor, it is the City's position that the rescue mission and tran-
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sient facility is permitted within the Industrial district and is
consistent with the Comprehensive Plan.
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tial Facility use was not requested, although the
same is required by special exception approval by
the city commission.
Responses The proposed Camillus House does not fall
within the definition of a Community Board Residential Facility
("CBRF") and therefore, a Special Exception for this use is not
required.
Ordinance No. 11000, the Zoning Ordinance of the City of
Miami, Florida, as amended (hereinafter "Zoning Ordinance") defines
a CBRF as:
h facility providing room (with or without
board), resident services, and twenty-four
hours supervision. Such a facility functions
as a single housekeeping unit. This category
includes adult congregate living facilities;
facilities for aged persons as defined in
Section 400.618(3), Florida Statutes; faci-
lities for physically disabled and handicapped
persons as defined in Section 760.22 (5) (a) ,
Florida Statutes; for developmentally disabled
persons as defined in Section 393.063(6),
Florida Statutes; for non -dangerous mentally
ill persons as defined in Section 394.455(3),
Florida Statutes; and for dependent children
as defined in Section 39.01(8) and (10),
Florida Statutes, as licensed by the Florida
Department of Health and Rehabilitative
Services (FHRS); and residential facilities
for alcohol and drug rehabilitation and
juvenile and adult residential correctional
facilities, including halfway houses as
licensed or approved by an authorized regula-
tory agency.
The Zoning Ordinance defines a rescue mission as a:
Facility which provides overnight, dormitory -
style shelter (with or without food service
provisions) to those persons lacking resi-
dences, possessions or resources.
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M. The proposal does not most the standards for a
Responses The proposed rescue mission and transient
facility does meet the standards for a Special Exception as
outlined in the Zoning ordinance. The following considerations and
standards shall apply generally to the determination for the
granting of a Special Exception.
Section 1301.3.1 of the Zoning ordinance describes the
"intent" for the issuance of Special Exceptions as follows:
Within the city generally, or within certain
zoning districts, certain structures, uses,
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and/or occupancies specified in this ordinance
are of a nature requiring special and inten-
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sive review to determine whether or not they
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the Zoning Board be exercised in making such
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determinations, in accordance with the rules.
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considerations, and limitations relating to
Special Exceptions. (Emphasis added.)
Section 1305 of the Zoning ordinance provides:
As appropriate to the nature of the special
permit involved and the particular circum-
stances of the case, the following considera-
tions and standards shall apply generally, in
addition to any other standards and require-
ments set forth concerning the class or kind
of permit being considered. City agents,
agencies, or boards charged with decisions
concerning special permits shall make, or
cause to be made, written findings and deter-
minations concerning such of the following
matters as are applicable in the case, shall
reflect such considerations and standards
specifically in the record, and shall be
guided by such considerations and standards in
their decisions as to issuance of permits,
with or without conditions and safeguards, or
denial of applications.
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1305.1. ingress., and. egress.
Due consideration shall be given to adequacy
of ingress and egress to the property struc-
ture and uses thereon, with particular
reference to automotive and pedestrian safety
convenience, traffic flow and control, and
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access in case of fire or other emergency.
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1305.2 Offstreet arkg and loading.
Due consideration shall be given to offstreet
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adjacent streets, with particular reference to
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automotive and pedestrian safety and con-
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venience, internal traffic flow and control,
arrangement in relation to access in case of
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fire or other emergency, and screening and
landscaping.
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1305.3 Refuse and service areas.
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Due consideration shall be given to the loca-
tion, scale, design, and screening of refuse
and service areas; to the manner in which
refuse is to be stored; and to the manner and
timing of refuse collection and deliveries,
shipments, or other service activities, as
such matters relate to the location and nature
of uses on adjoining properties and to the
location and character of adjoining public
ways.
1305.4 Signs and lighting.
Due consideration shall be given to the
number, size, character, location, and orien-
tation of proposed signs, and of proposed
lighting for signs and premises, with par-
ticular reference to traffic safety, glare,
and compatibility and harmony with adjoining
and nearby property and the character of the
area.
1305.5 Utilities.
Due consideration shall be given to utilities
required, with particular reference to avail-
ability and capacity of systems, location of
connections, and potentially adverse i
appearance or other adverse effects on 91-
adjoining and nearby property and the
character of the area.
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1305. 6 Drainage.
Due consideration shall be given to provision
for drainage, with particular reference to
effect and adjoining and nearby properties and
on general drainage systems in the area.
Where major drainage volumes appear likely and
capacity of available systems is found mar-
ginal or inadequate, consideration shall be
given to possibilities for recharge of ground
water supply on the property, temporary reten-
tion with gradual discharge, or other remedial
measures.
1305.7 Preservation of natural features.
Due consideration shall be given to provision
for the preservation of existing vegetation
and geological features whenever possible.
1305.08 Control of potentially adverse
effects generally.
In addition to consideration of detailed items
indicated above, as appropriate to the par-
ticular class or kind of special permit and
the circumstances of the particular case, due
character, scale or manner of operation.
Where such potentially adverse effects are
found, consideration shall be given to special
ticular circumstances of the case, including
screening or buffering, landscaping, control
of manner or hours of operation, alteration of
proposed design or construction of buildings,
relocation of proposed open space or altera-
tion of use of such space, or such other
measures as are required to assure that such
potential adverse effects will be eliminated
or minimized to the maximum extent reasonably
feasible, and the use or occupancy will be
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ment in the area to a degree which will avoid
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nearby property. (emphasis added).
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IV, The proposal is not compatible with the
area and will be detrimental to the
public, including the undersigned.
Responses The proposed rescue mission and transient
facility will not be adverse to the neighborhood and public.
Section 1305.8 of the Zoning Ordinance provides that remedial
measures shall be considered in the determination of the issuance
of a special permit and due consideration shall be given to poten-
tially adverse effects generally, on adjoining and nearby proper-
ties, the area, the neighborhood or the city. The remedial measu-
res shall be considered to assure that such potential adverse
effects will be eliminated or minimized to the maximum extent
reasonably feasible, and that the use or occupancy will be com-
patible and harmonious with other development in the area to a
degree which will avoid substantial depreciation of the value of
the nearby property.
The proposed rescue mission and transient facility is
compatible with the surrounding neighborhood. The Rescue Mission
is located at 2020 N.W. 1st Avenue, Miami, Florida, which is
approximately 1h blocks from the proposed site. The Miami Women
and Children's Shelter is located at 2250 N.W. 1st Avenue, Miami,
Florida which is also 1h blocks from the proposed site and the
Salvation Army Rehabilitation Center, is located at 2236 N.W.
Miami Court, Miami, Florida.
In an attempt to reduce any perceived adverse effects to
the surrounding neighborhood, the Zoning Board attached the fol-
lowing conditions to the approval of the Special Exception:
1. The manner of operation of the rescue mission and
transient facility is restricted to require waiting lines
within the interior courtyard only.
2. The gates will open one (1) hour before serving
meals and remain open for one (1) hour after meal service.
3. The rescue mission and transient facility will
provide a twelve (12) hour (7:00 a.m. to 7:00 p.m.) surveil-
lance system on Northwest Miami Court, and Northwest 18th and
19th Streets, within 100 feet of the facility.
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The rescue mission and transient facility will
a. Twenty-four (24) hour camera surveillance.
b. One off -duty police officer during meal hours
(approximately 2:30 - 6:00 p.m.) six (6) days
a week.
C. Approximately thirty-two (32) crew members and
the Brothers to provide security at all times.
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January 1,
1990 to December 31, 1990
Calls for Service Calls
for Ssrvide '
Present Area of proposed Area of
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Description
Cni 11 u$ House*ami 11 ups House**
16
Driving While
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Intoxicated
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Accidents
138
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18
Accidents (Hit
26
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and Runs)
21
Stolen License
25
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22
Stolen Car
61
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26
False Burglar Alarms 162
65
26
Burglary
47
44
27
Larceny
596
45
28
Vandalism
23
11
29
Robbery
70
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31
Homicides
0
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32
Assaults
66
12
33
Sex Offenses
2
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34
Disturbances
255
41
37
Suspicious Person
2
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38
Suspicious Vehicle
17
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Total:
1,492
272
Boundaries for above areas:
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North - N.E./N.W,
8 Street
South -- N.E./N.W.
5 Street
East Biscayne Bay
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North - N.E./N.W.
20 Street
South - N.E./N.W.
17 Street
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East - N.E. 2 Avenue
West - N.W. 2 Avenue
Source:
Miami Police Department
Computer Aided Dispatch
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Calls for
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Driving While 12
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Accidents 138
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Accidents (Hit 26
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and Runs)
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Stolen License 25
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Stolen Car 61
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False Burglar Alarms 152
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Burglary 47
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Larceny 596
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Vandalism 23
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Robbery 70
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Assaults 66L
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Sex Offenses 2
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Disturbances 255
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Suspicious Person 2
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Suspicious Vehicle 17
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Boundaries for above areas:
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North - N.E.A .W. 8 Street
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South - N . E . /N . W . 6 Street
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North - N . E . A . W . 20 Street
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South - N.E./K.W. 17 Street
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West - N.W. 2. Avenue
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' d. No loitering or sleeping around the premises
will be permitted.
5. The rescue mission and transient facility will
limit serving meals to 500 people a day, except three (3)
times a year, 800 people may be served.
6. The rescue mission and transient facility will
assign its Crew, as a part of its work program, to help keep
Dorsey Park clean, as well as the area within a one (1) block
radius of the proposed site.
7. The Zoning Board withheld the van tram or jitney
service being made available to clients in the area until the
item is returned for complete review of these conditions one
year from the date of the issuance of the Certificate of
occupancy.
Please advise if you would like further information.
cc: Lucia A. Dougherty, Esq.
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Alan D. Savitz, President
Universal Home Products, Inc.
1920 North Miami Avenue
Miami, Florida 33136
Dear Mr. Savitz:
I have reviewed your letter expressing your concerns about the
proposed relocation of Camillus House.
The Miami Police Department cannot forecast crime due to the
many variables involved. Attached you will find statistics on
calls for police service in the area of Camillus House's present
and proposed locations.
The Miami Police Department has no role in influencing the
decision making process in the relocation of Camillus House; any
direction taken is solely that of the City Commission.
Sincerely,
Perry L. Anderson, Jr.
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Chief of Police
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ZONING FACT SHEET
LOCATI ONAEGAL 1801 NW Miami Court
All of Block 21 lying W of
FEC r-o-w
JOHNSON A WADDELL'S ADDN. to the City
of Miami (B-53) P.R.D.C.
and
Tract 19 A
Block 21
REPLAT OF JOHNSON & WADDELL'S ADDITION
(50-15) P.R.D.C.
APPLICANVOWNER Randolph Weinsier
1 Kensington Gate
Great Neck, New York Phone 358-0737
Grace Cantor Maslow
980 5th Avenue #86
New York, New York Phone 358-0737
Theresa Cantor, as Personal Representative of
the Estate of Earl Cantor
c/o James McDonald
5355 Town Center Road, Ste., 1002
Boca Raton, FL Phone 358-0737
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Christina Echarte Brochin, Esq.
150 W. Flagler Street, #2701
Miami, FL 33130 Phone 358-0737
ZONING I Industrial.
REQUEST Special Exception as listed in Ordinance 11000,
as amended, the Zoning Ordinance of the , C1 ty of
Miami, Article 4, Section 401, I Industrial and
C-2 Liberal Commercial, Conditional Principal
Uses (2) to allow construction and operation of
a rescue mission and transient facility.
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RECOMMENDATIONS
PLANNING DEPARTMENT
APPROVAL'PER PLANS AND LETTER FROM THE APPLICANT
ON FILE )MU IN ADDITION SUBJECT TO: 1:
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PERSONNEL IN THE SURVELLANCE OF THE PARK FRW
SUNRISE TO SUNSETS 5. AND A VAN TRAM OR JITNEY
SERV ICE TO CLIENTS IN IHE AREA TU
TRAOM I.LILHIZ 50 THEY CAN WAIT INSIDE THE
RESCUE MISSION WALL5. e Speclal Exceptlon as
requested must mee the intent of Zoning
Ordinance 11000 which requires that due
consideration be given to potentially adverse
effects generally on adjoining and nearby
properties and the neighborhood. Therefore,
consideration should be given to special
remedial measures to reduce the impact on the
neighborhood in this particular case such as a)
waiting lines only within the interior
courtyards and longer opening hours .to avoid
having clients waiting on the public sidewalks
and immediate neighborhood, before and after the
meal; b) 12 hour surveillance; c) client control
and d) tram service. It is suggested that.
surveillance and control (above) could be
accomplished by hiring security guards, or off -
duty policeman to watch over the area,
especially the
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should be left up to Camillus House to choose
the three special occasions during the year, in
which up to 800 clients will be allowed to be -
served.
PUBLIC WORKS
Right of way dedication required on northwest
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corner of lot #2.
DADE COUNTY TRAFFIC
AND TRANSPORTATION
No comment.
At its meeting of N6vember 19, 19909 the
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ZONING BOARD
Zoning Board adopted Resolution ZB 107-90-
by a 6-1 vote, granting approval of the
above.
Forty-four OPPONENTS and -thirty-nine
PROPONENTS were present'nt the meeting.
Nine replies AGAINST were received by mail.
Letter dated November 29, 1990, signed -
APPEAL
by several property owners.
CITY CONXISSION
At its meeting of January 24, 1991, the
City Commission continued the above.
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November 29, 1990
Gloria Fox
Chief of Hearing Boards Division
City of Miami
275 N.W 2nd Street
Miami, FL 33131
Dear Ms. Fox:
The undersigned a
g ppeal, pursuant to Article 20,
Ordinance No. 11000 of -the City of Miami, the decision of .
the Miami `Zoning Board made in relation to that, Board's
November 19, 1990, agenda item no. 3. (A copy.of. the agenda
item no. 3 is attached hereto and incorporated herein.)
There are a number of reasons as to why the appeal is -
being taken. The proposal violates the ,City's;Comprehensive.
Plan which precludes residential units in industrial, areas.
AL special exception for a L Community Based Residential
Facilities use was not requested although the. same is
required by special exception approval L by the City
Commission. Additionally, the proposal does,, not Lmeet the.
standards for -a special Lexception and conditional use. Wye '
would also add that whatever the circumstances the proposed;
use is not compatible with the area and will be detrimental
to the public, including the undersigned. +'
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APPLICATION FOR A CLASS 0 SPECIAL PERMIT OR SPECIAL EXCEPTION
File Number OSE-B
Within the My generally, or within certain zoning districts, certain structures, uses,
and/or occupancies specified in this ordinance are of a nature requiring special and
Intensive review to determine whether or not they should be permitted in specific
locations, and if uh the special limitations; conditions, and safeguards which should
be applied as reasonably necessary to promote the general purposes of this Zoning
Ordinance, and, in particular, to protect adjoining properties and the neighborhood
from avoidable potentially adverse of f ecM It is further intended that the erpertise
and judgement of the Zoning Board be exercised in making such determinations, in
accordance with the rules, considerations and limitations relating to Class D Special
Permits and Special Exceptions. (See ArttcleaW4
Format public notice and hearing is not mandatory for Class D Special Permits, but is
mandatory for Special Exceptions. k other respects, these classes of special permits
are the Same.
The Zoning Board shall be solely responsible for determinations on applications for
1 a! led the following in sucW? or explanation of -this apmieatiare
, x Iommumm. Two su vays of the PrcpartY Prepared by a' St to of Florida Registered Land
Surverar.
„+ 2. Four c*eo of: site pion showing (as reauirec) %pgjff4*m*klW4 ex4tim, and
pcapodrsd struetvrets}. Pwkhi ,Dino, screening, eta building elemi'alst; of
requirsdi with dimemi and eomputattens ai tot wee (g= and net),, l.UI ratios
(aQsn "". floor area. pocking, etc.4 building spacing mW Wght a vemW
SN seen= 230I.T..fa?.
3. Affldavit dlscioaiM ownersniP of Property covered by cppilcatfon aced discia mm of
iftlern, form (Farm 4-83 am attaIII to I 1 1114 a 1 LL
;_ k CertMled list of owners of reaiestate within IM radim from the outside
bmvim es of ps oper. amwed by this oPphicasian. (See Font 6-83 m d got to
S. At twop, a that show the etrtire piqm,. ► (land anti In ipt avernewtsL
6. Other (awaft Rwers of Attorney fxm title holders
�. 7. Fee of $ 1. Soo. go , bond an following
(a) Class D $450.00
03) Speeeal E=optfan $650.00 .
(c) StrdwM mmi to appllc cWe fee from (a) or Q Wow +tat to e=md $650; to
be refunmd if them ei no cmnd (city eedslSeaCt es-d1 A
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or Avmosezea ^98M
Address 150 w. Flaaler Street, t 2701
City, State, EP mmai, Florida 33130
One (305) 358-0737
STATE OF FLOFMA) SS:
COUMTY OF DAM )
cristina pctearte BLmc hin beinq duly sworn,
ceases ana says tnat no is ins tuwnerl tau:norezec-agentI of the rem property dasaribec
above; that he has read the foregoing answers and that the some ore true and =npletes end
of acting as sett for owner} that he has authority► to execute this application form on
behoif of the owner.
Form 1040
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SWORN TO � puss e�
before me this day
of ; moo.
MY COMMISSION Ex ffe-
Form 10-83
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CIIMTY OF DADS i
Before me, the undersi
gned authority,' this day personally
appeared Cristina Echarte Brochin, who being by ire ' fi.rst duly sworn,
upon oath, deposes and says:
1. That he is the owner, or the legal representative of the
owner, submitting the accompanying application for a public hearing as
11000
required by Ordinance No. AM= of the Cade of the City of Miami, Florida,
effectiiZ the real property located in the City of Miami as described and
listed on the pages attached to this affidavit and made a part thereof.
2. That all owners which he represents, if any, have given their
Pull and complete permission for him to act in their behalf for the change
or modification of a classification or regulation of zoning as set out in
the accc1nprranying petition.
j. That the pages attached hereto and made a part of this
affidavit contain the current names, mailing addresses, phone numbers and
legal descriptions for the real property which he is the owner or legal
representative.
4. 1he facts -as rcprin the application and documents —
M92dtted in conjunction with this affidavit are true and correct.
Further Affiant sayeth not.
SubscribedSwat, to and
this 3vQ day . 1 -
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Floridallotary Public, State of
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My Commission Expires: - t - Ci 1 0
OWNER'S UST
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Owner's Name Randol# "#. Wier 50 % undivided interest
Hailing Address 1Kensington Gate, Great Neck, New York
Telephone Number-_ c/o 305 358-0737
Legal Description: All that Portion of Block 21 lying West of FloridaEas—F—Coast Railway
Con%myls right-of-way of Johnson & Waddell's Addition to Cif OF MV*a t Florida, accord-
ing to the Plat thereof, as recorded in Plat Book B, at Page 53 of the Public Awords of
bade County, Florida; AND Alai bf Tract 19A, Block 21 of RE -FLAT OF JOiVSW & VMWELLIS
ADDITION, according to the plat therdof, as recorded in Plat Book 50, at Page 15, of the
a ]d�gsRecoorrds of DNdc93WbrFl ` 25% undivided interest
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Mailing Address 980 5th Avenue 88, New York, New York
Telephone dumber c/o (305) 358-0737
Legal Description:All that portion of Block 21 lylFg West of Florida st Railway
oongmy's right-of-way of Johnson & %ddell's Addition to CITY OF KLVU, Florida, acoord-
ing to the Plat thereof, as recorded in Plat Book B. at Page 53 of the Public Records of
Dade County, Florida; AND ALL of Tract 19A, Block 21 of RE -PEAT OF JOHNSCN & WADDELL'S
ADOIT m, according to the Plat thereof, as recorded in Plat Book 50, at Page 15, of the
p�,iv Records of Dade Oounty, Florida.
Owner s Name Theresa Cantor, as Personal Representative of the Estate
of Fare Cantor c/o James McDonald# interest
Mailing Address . 5355 Town Center Road, Suite 1002, Boca Raton, Florida
Telephone Number c/o (305) 358-0737
Legal Description: All that portion of Block 21 lying t Railway
Company's right-of-way- of Johnson & Waddell's Addition to CITY OF MIAMt, Florida, accord-
ing to the Plat thereof, as recorded in Plat Book B, at Page 53 of the Public Records of
Dade County, Florida; AND ALL of Tract 19A, Block 21 of RE -Plat OF JCHNSCN & VIAMELL'S
ADDITICN, according to the Plat thereof, as recorded in Plat Book 50, at Page 1% of the
Public Records of Dade County, Florida..
Any other real estate property owned individually. jointly, or severally
(by corporation, partnership.or privately) within 375' of the subject
site is listed as follows:
Street Address ' Legal Description
None
Street Address Legal Description
None
None
Street Address Legal Description
None
None
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OtSUCSURE Or ONNEWHIP
1. Legal descri %ion and street address of subject real pt��ppeert All that portion
of Block 21 lying West okI Plbrida East Coast Railway Oompany's right+�pF=-1 of Johnson
Waddell's Addition to C i)OP MLW o rlorida, according to the'Plat thereof, as recorded in
Plat Hook a, at Page 53 of the Public Records of Dade Ootinty, florid$; AND AtL of Tract 19A,
Block 21 of RED-PZAT OF MNS01 & . fAWEtd.' S AMITtCN. according to the Plat thereof, as recottloe
in Plat Book 50, at Page 15, of the Public Records of Dude County, Florida. 1801 N.W. Miami CT,
Mid, FL2. -Owner(s) of subject real property And percentage of ownership.
Note: City of Miami Ordinance No. 9419 requires disclosure of all parties
having a financial interest, either direct or indirect, in the subject
natter of a presentation, "request or retition to the City Commission.
Accordingly, question 12 requires disclosure of all shareholders of
corporations, beneficiaries of trusts, aril/or any other interested parties,
together with their addresses and proportionate interest.
1) Randolph Weinsier 50% undivided interest
2) Ctace Cantor Maslow 25% undivided interest
3) Theresa Cantor as Personal Representative of the Estate of Earle Cantor
25% undivided interest
c/o Cristina Echarte Brochin
150 West Flagler #E2701
Miami, Florida 33130
3. Legal description anti street address of any real property (a)
owned by any party listed in answer to question 12, and (b) located within
375 feet of the subject real property.
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SVM OF FLORID ) SS:
CO(WY OF DADE )
c risruna ernarce drocrmn
Attorney for owner
Cristina Echarte B ochin , being duly sworn, deposes and
says thar. no is the (Owner) (Attorney or Owner) of the real property,
described in answer to question t1, above= that he has read the foregoing;
answers and that the same gre 'true and complete; and ( if acting as attorney
for owner) that he ha authority to execvtr this Disclosure of Ownership
fora an behalf of the r.
SWORN TO AM SU �
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That Grace (Cantor) Maslow, as to an undivided 25% interest
ha s made. constittled and appointed. and by these presents do es make, eonstittle and op -
point CRISTINA ECIIARTE 13ROCIIIN
trite and
lawful allorney - for herself and in her name. plate and stead
to submit an application, prepare all paperwork, make all appearances
and do anything that may otherwise he necessary in connection with
applying for a special exception for the premises described as:
SEE ATTACIIRD EXHIBIT "A"
giving and granting unto CRISTINA ECIIARTE BROCIIIN said attorney /till potter
and authority to do and perform all and every act and thing mhalsoeirer regtiisile and necessary to
he done in and about the premises as fully. to all intents and purposes. as she might or could do
if personally present. u►ilh full power of substitution and revoration. hereby ralilying and rohfirm-
ing all that CRISTINA ECIIARTE BROCHIN said attorney or
her substitute shah lawfully do or cause to be done by virtue hereof.
hn itntss WWtof, I hate hereunto set my hand and
seal the ,4 day of October. , in the year one thousand nine
hundred and ninety.
and delivere in the presence of
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Matt of
County of
It It 1010n, That an the
�- 1. day of
thousand nine hundred and ninety . before me.
a Notary public .. in and for the State of,�,..
dutly commissioned and avorn, dwelling in the
one
personally came and appeared XRAL.{ to me personally
knorpn, and knott►n to me to he the same persons described in anti tpho everttted the ttrithin poorer
-of attorney, and acknotoledged the within pouter of attorney to be
deed.. b-� 1 7
it `�n�ony�'tof, t hrttle hereunto stubarribr my riamr, and qXre, t to treat of lafoll�
the slay anti yfar l/rxl aharlpw
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That Theresa Cantor, as Personal Papresentative► of the Earle Cantor Estate►
as to an undivided 25% interest
he s made. constituted and appointed. and by these presents do es make, constitute and op -
point CRISTINA ECHARTE BROCHIN true and
lawful attorney' for herself and in her name. place and stead
to submit an application, prepare all paperwork, make all appearances
and do anything that may otherwise be necessary in connection with
applying for a special exception for the premises described as:
SEE ATTACHED EXHIBIT "A"
giving and granting unto CRISTINA ECHARTE BROCHIN said attorney full power
and authority to do and perform all and every act and thing whatsoever requisite and necessary to
be done in and about the premises as fully. to all intents and purposes. as she might or could do
if personally present. with full power of substitution and revocation. hereby ratifying and confirm-
ing all that CRISTINA ECHARTE BROCHIN said attorney or
her substitute shall lawfully do or cause to be done by virtue hereof.
ht WIt!m bit mf, I have hereunto set my hand and
seal the
�4 day of October . in the year one thousand nine
hundred and ninety.
Sealed and delivered i the presence of
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Mate Of Florida
(QUnty Of Palm Beach
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Ik it KOOIUIl, That on the 2nd day of October one
thousand nine hundred and ninety . before me,
a Notary Public in and for the State of Florida
duly commissioned and sworn. dwelling in the City of Boca Raton
personally, came. and appeared Theresa Cantor to me personally
known. and known to me to be the same persons described in and who executed the within power
of attorney, and she acknowledged the within power of attorney to be he act
and deed. � 1-- '� 7 8
y pf, I have hereunto cribed my n�tne and eJJiace1 my seat of ofJle�r ..`
the dogsand year fI bo ...,.,.
` M�tTARY �11�1.1�. ��t FWRI�A. -`•- A,
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kw �n.•Mee�AM f1rMAE.6�PRII 90- 1!9' Fief . AI?Y Ri,T$I;�t, . S �bfiE� �; � r • �f' .. �. '.
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�nwer of Attorney
Know IM vim By 71Mt rMMIS
That Randolph W0insier, as to an undivided 50% interest
ha s made, constituted and appointed, and by these presents do es make, constitute and ap-
point CRISTINA ECHARTE BROCHIN true and
lawful attorney for half and in his name, place and stead
to submit an application, prepare all paperwork, make all appearances
and do anything that may otherwise be necessary in connection with
applying for a special exception for the premises described as:
SEE ATTACHED EXHIBIT "A"
giving and granting unto CRISTINA ECHARTE BROCHIN said allorney full power
and authority to do and perform all and every act and thing whatsoever requisite and necessary to
j be done in and about the premises as fully. to all intents and purposes. as he might or could do
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if personally present. with full power of substitution and revocation. hereby ratifying and confirm-
ing all that CRISTINA ECHARTE BROCHIN said attorney or
her substitute shall lawfully do or cause to be done by virtue hereof.
In UUM Vlt mf, I have hereunto set my hand and
seat the 3 4j day of October . in the year one thousand nine
hundred and ninety.
Seaftd.a delivered in the presence of
state of lVrw K
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It It ltt UMp Thal on the
thousand nine hundred and ninety
day of G1-0 RIZ one
. before me. Mq i ivVV /T — 5 iZ
a Notary Public in and for the State of %VEvL' YVA)e
duly commissioned and sworn. dwelling in the Co v N"�y v F ll.'��- ;Sa ✓
personally came and appeared ti 0(.L t)1} - iti'cl ' �l fL to nee �" personalty
known, and known to me to be the same persons described in and who executed the within power
of attorney, and }1a.. acknowledged the within wer of attorney to be ad
and deed,
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the daft and year last abolls u►rf'tlen
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All that portion of Block 21 lying West of
Florida East Cost Railway Company's riyht-
of�-way of Johnson & Waddell's Addition to
CITY OF MIAMI, Florida, according to the
Plat thereof, as recorded in Plat Book Be
at Page 53 of the Public Records of Dade
County, Florida; AND All of Tract 19A,
Block 21 of RE -FLAT OF JOtiNSON & WADDELL'S
ADDITION, according to the Plat thereof,
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as recorded in Plat Book 50, at Page 15, of
the Public Records of Davie County, Florida.
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WHOLtsALE IMPO T • Expa" TELEX $25104 IUMr MW
Novwber 7, 1990
TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN
RE: CAMILLUS HOUSE'S POSSIBLE NEW LOCATION
AT NW 19 Street AND M ami Avenue
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21= WILL BE TWO n AS F1OISD1S s
10 5:30 PM (WED) NOVEHM 14o, 1990
ISAAC MNTZ S C.P.A.. OFFICE 573-6640)
2742 Biscayne Blvd
Miami, Fl 33137
This will be a strategy Session. It is important not only to meet your
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neighbors but to discuss the very big problems that loom ahead if "Camillus
House" naves into our area.
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AT MUM cm HALL
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3500 Pan American Drive
Miami (Coconut GLvve), F1
This is a 7minq Hearing and as many voices against the Camillus House mavirq
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to our area, the Betterl Each speaker will be given about 5 minutes Let's
all say a few words.
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3 Please plan your time to attend these important meetings. You are not only
helping yourself but yaw ==mity as well. Thank .you.
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ONTVEFM HOME PXXXX.75,111C
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RATIFY MANAGER'S ACCEPTANCE OF APPRAISALS FROM LEE H. WARONKER,
WARONKER AND ASSOCIATES, INC. AND LEE V. CHAS1`AIN, CHASTAIN APPRAISAL
AND CONSULTING, INC. - FOR APPRAISALS OF FEE SIMPLE AND LEASEHOLD
INTERESTS FOR 700=22 AND 726-32 NE 1 AVENUE'(CAMILLUS HOJSE).
REJECT COUNTEROFFER PROPOSED BY BROTHERS OF THE GOOD SHEPHERD, INC. -
FOR ACQUISITION OF LEASEHOLD INTEREST IN PROPERTY AT 700-728 NE 1
AVENUE, AND FEE SIMPLE INTEREST IN PROPERTY AT 732-740 N.E. 1 AVENUE
("CAMILLUS HOUSE") - OFFER TO PURCHASE CAMILLUS HOUSE FOR $1.2
MILLION, WITH STIPULATIONS.
R 90-111
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STREET (HOT MEALS PROGRAM ORGANIZED BY BROTHER HARRY - CAMILLUS
HOUSE).
DISCUSSION
3/8/90
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DISCUSS AND TEMPORARILY DEFER PROPOSED RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING MANAGER
TO MAKE AN OFFER AND EXECUTE AN AGREEMENT OF PURCHASE AND SALE WITH
THE BROTHERS OF THE GOOD SHEPHERD, INC. - FOR ACQUISITION OF PROPERTY
AT 700-1 28 AND.732-740 NE 1 AVENUE (CAMILLUS HOUSE').
DISCUSSION
6/7/90
75-88)
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(Continued Discussion) AUTHORIZE MANAGER TO MAKE AN OFFER AND EXECUTE
AN AGREEMENT OF PURCHASE AND SALE WITH THE BROTHERS OF THE GOOD
SHEPHERD, INC. - FOR ACQUISITION OF PROPERTY AT 700-276 AND 732-740
NE i AVENUE (CAMILLUS HOUSE) - AUTHORIZE CITY ATTORNEY TO PROCEED TO
CLOSE ON SUBJECT PROPERTY AFTER REVIEW - AUTHORIZE MANAGER TO EXECUTE
SOCIAL SERVICES GRANT AGREEMENT WITH BROTHERS OF THE GOOD SHEPHERD,
INC. AND TO ISSUE REVOCABLE PERMIT FOR USE OF SUBJECT PROPERTY FOR
DESIGNATED TIME PERIOD.
R 90-436
6/7/90
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Report Title:'
Folder: 1990
Search KegWord: camillus and house
Records -Found: 5
Pages of Data: 2
Report Completed: Fri Nov 9, 1990 12:08-PM
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner De Yurre, Who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 90-43
A RESOLUTION RATIFYING THE CITY MANAGER'S ACTION IN
ACCEPTING THE APPRAISALS OF LEE H. WARONKER, WARONXER
AND ASSOCIATES, INC. S LEE V. CHASTAIN, CHASTAIN
APPRAISAL 6 CONSULTING, INC., BOTH MEMBERS OF THE
AMERICAN INSTITUTE OF REAL ESTATE APPRAISERS, AT A FEE
OF $4,500 AND $5,000 DOLLARS RESPECTIVELY, 'FOR
APPRAISALS OF THE FEE SIMPLE AND LEASEHOLD INTERESTS
FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 700-22 AND 726-32 NORTHEAST
FIRST AVENUE, A/K/A CAMILLUS HOUSE PROPERTY1
ALLOCATING FUNDS, THEREFOR FOR THESE APPRAISALS FROM
CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT NO. 322056, "CAMILLUS
HOUSE LAND ACQUISITION" AS PER ORDINANCE NO. 10642.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Mayor Suarez, the resolution was passed and
adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Victor De Yurre
Commissioner Miriam Alonso
Vice Mayor Miller Dawkins
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr..
ABSENT: None.
COMMENTS MADE DURING ROLL CALL:
Commissioner Plummer: I vote no because I don't think they were done
properly.
COMMENTS MADE AFTER ROLL CALL:
Commissioner Plummer: Now, the question resolves, Mr. Mayor, we have the
appraisals. What the hell are you going to do with them?
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44. RATIFY MANAGER'S ACCEPTANCE OF APPRAISALS FROM R.G. DAVIS AND
ASSOCIATES, INC., AND LEE H. WARONKER, WARONKER AND ASSOCIATES, INC. -
FOR APPRAISALS OF FAIR MARKET VALUE FOR MELREESE AND MIAMI SPRINGS GOLF
COURSES.
Mayor Suarez: Item 31 - that's what I'm going to do!
Commissioner Plummer: No, no. no. What are we going to,do with them?
Mayor Suarez: I'm going to go on to item 31, which ...
Commissioner Plummer: What are we going to do with the appraisals?
Mayor Scares: I'm going to go on to item 31...
Commissioner Alonso: Keep them in a file.
Mayor Suarez: .,.which is ratifying the City Manager's action accepting the
appraisals at your favorite item, which is the golf courses. We have a
motion. Why are thee* so much higher? Why are golf courses so Much higher to
Mayon Suarers Is that about the acquisition of what used to be the Rescue
Mission's property?
Commissioner Plummer: When we acquired...
Mayor Suarez: 'We paid them good money not as a loan. We just paid thew,
and us paid them a bonus over the highest appraisal. In fact it was
characterized as relocation costs, that's what.
Commissioner Plummer: Mr. Mayor, with the proviso that if they ever vacated
the premises, that the City of Miami got its money back in the form of the
sale. They're asking...
Mayor Suarers Oh, because they were going to build a new facility. It •isn't
clear that Camillus House is going to build a new facility at all, and a lot
of people don't want them to build a new facility in the area that they're
planning it. I'm not sure we want to get into that in this case -
Commissioner Plummer: Well, we agreed on that issue.
Mayor Suarez: No, we try to keep one separate from the other.
Commissioner Plummer: Well, I'm saying is that I'm putting it on the record,
Mr. Manager - Hello?
Mr. Odio: Yes.
Commissioner Plummer: - that if you do that for the Camillus House, the
Rescue Mission, in all fairness and interest, are asking for the same. OK?
And I don't know how you can deny it.
Mayor Suarez: On item 30, can I get a motion to pay the appraisers, please.
Moved. And, by the way, the fees are beginning to look a little 'bit more
reasonable on appraisers. I've seen eight and $10,000 fees, which don't make
any sense to me.
Commissioner Plummer: Can I ask a question?
Mr. Williams: We're actively competing them, Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Suarez: Thank you. I was hoping _there'd be some competition because
we're getting quite a few appraisals.
Commissioner Plummer: Can I ask which one of the appraisers gets the forty-
five hundred? Was that the 800 appraisal or the million -three?
Mr. Al Armada: Mr. Waronker, who is the lower appraiser gets the $4,500. The
higher one gets $5,000. The one that came up with a higher figure:
.Commissioner Plummer: And that is Chastain, Chastain appraisal.
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Mr. Armada: Lee Chastain, that's right. —
Commissioner Plummer: And he's a local company.
Mr. Armada: Yes, sir, he's a local company.
Mayor Suarez: All right, do we have a motion and a second? That's right, we
pay them mote if the appraisal oames In htghwrl All .right.
Ms. Hirai: We need a second, Mr. Mayor.
Mayor.Suarez: I think we do have a second.
Commissioner Plummer, A half a million difference, between 800,000 and a
million -three.
Mr. Odio: I was there today, during lunchtime.; and we need to do something
fast.
Commissioner Plummer: For what?
Mr. Odio: Because we have a huge investment in Overtown - Arena Towers, etc.
We need to move it.
Commissioner Plummer: You know my feelings. There's no way I'm going to give
them $2 million.
Mr. Odic: Well, but you already voted and you lost, so we go ahead and move
it.
Vice Mayor Dawkins: OK, item 30 is to...
Commissioner Plummer: Let me tell you something. I voted against it, but the
federal government says, "Hey, Plummer ain't so far wrongl"
Mr. Odic: No, but -
Commissioner Plummer: That's why you're back here!
Mayor Suarez: But one appraiser says you are, so, in any event, we have to
pay both of them.
Commissioner Plummer: No, no, no. That appraiser doesn't say I'm wrong. .
Even he is at a million -three.
Mayor Suarez: Right.
Commissioner Plummer: You're giving them $2 million.
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Mayor Suarez: We're giving them a million -five.
ii Commissioner.Plummer: You're giving them $2 million of taxpayers' money.
i; Mayor Suarez: And we have to pay them relocation costs in accordance with the
ilaw...
Commissioner Plummer: You're giving them two million dollars!
{ Mayor Suarez: ...and Camillus House is very difficult to relocate. In fact,
they're impossible to relocate.
Commissioner Plummer: All right, now, Mr. Mayor, in all honesty -
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Mayor Suarez: Anyhow, but that's not what's before us, J.L. What's before us
is paying for...
Commissioner Plummer: Whoa, whoa, whoa. Mr..Manager?
( Mayor Suarez: Please, in the back, in the back of the chambers...I We're
going to have to move an officer over to that side' or else get Carl Goldfarb
out of there.
Commissioner Plummer: Mr. Manager, I have received a letter from the Miami
Rescue Mission.
Mr, Odic: Yes, sir.
Commissioner Plummer: In the interests of fairness that they are asking to be
treated as you are proposing to treat the Camillus House. And I don't think
' this Commission could do anything less. What they're saying is, we gave them
money on a basis of a loan if that place over went under. You're not doing
t#at with C&Milluris House, and they're asking that if that's whet you extend to
Csmillus Hoy#e, that you extend it to them.
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43. RATIFY MANAGER'S ACCEPTANCE OF APPRAISALS FROM LEE H. WARONKER, WARONKER
AND ASSOCIATES, INC. AND LEE V. CHASTAIN, CHASTAIN APPRAISAL AND
CONSULTING, INC. - FOR APPRAISALS OF FEE SIMPLE AND LEASEHOLD INTERgSTS
FOR 700-22 AND 726-32 N.E. 1 AVENUE (CAMILLUS HOUSE).
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Mayor Suarez: Item 30.
Mr. Odio: To ratify the action taken...
Commissioner Plummer: I move to deny.
Mr. Odic: Excuse me - for the appraisals of Camillus House, that we have to
go out Orr an emergency basis so that we could finalize the leasshold'-
Commissioner Plummer: Are you sure that those two appraisers were both
looking at the same piece of property?
Mr. Odic: That's a gcod.questicn.
Commissioner Plummer: No, I'm being serious.
Mr. Odio: Yes, they were.
Commissioner Plummer: One came in at what? - 800,000 and the other one came
in at a million -two.
Mr. Odio: Three.
Commissioner Plummer: A million -three.
Mr. Odic: Yes.
Commissioner Plummer: Hoar in the hell can two A.I.A. appraisers come in at
almost 40 percent difference?
Mr. Odic: 'I don't understand. We're trying to review the lowest one and find
out what happened, there, but that's what they came in -
Commissioner Plummer: Hey, forget about that. You know my thoughts on
Camillus House, OK?
Mr. Odic: I don't want to hear them again.
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Commissioner Plummer. But the point I'm trying to make is, how can two
appraisers be that far apart on one given parcel of property?
Mr. Odic: We are asking them, now.
Mr. Ron Williams: Commissioner Plummer, we took a look at that and it appears
that one of the appraisers took a far broader sampling, i.e., I tbink, 30
parcels - 20, as compared to 10 - and, therefore, he obviously took in a wider
} area- and`,' therefore, the comps. came back higher.
Mr. Odic: We'd just like to...
Mr. 'Williams t We'rs 'doing a rev ew ng 'oTappraisals.
Co missioner Plummer: We're doing a what?
Mr. Williams: What we call a reviewing of appraisals.
Mr.Odic: I would like for you to approve this -
Cow.4faioner _Plummer: A half a :pillion dollars difference.
go=Losicasr Aloasoi Mow much?
AIMS: Commissioner Victor De Yurre
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner Miriam Alonzo
Vida Mayor Miller J. Dawkins
NOBS: Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
ABSENT: None.
COMMENTS MADE DURING ROLL CALLS
Mayor Suarez: I'm going to vote no on the deferral because I'm satisfied, but
I understand that my brethren want to get more information, that's...
13. REJECT COUNTEROFFER PROPOSED BY BROTHERS OF THE GOOD SHEPHERD, INC. -
FOR ACQUISITION OF LEASEHOLD INTEREST IN PROPERTY AT 700-728 N.E. 1
AVENUE, AND FEE SIMPLE INTEREST IN PROPERTY AT 732-740 N.E. 1 AVENUE
("CAMILLUS HOUSE") - OFFER TO PURCHASE CAMILLUS HOUSE FOR $1.2 MILLION,
WITH STIPULATIONS.
Mayor Suarez: Resolution, item 13, authorizing the City Manager to execute an
and to agreement, purchase and sale, Brothers of The Good Shepherd for the
acquisition of the fee simple interest and leasehold interest in the property
located at 700-726 NE 1 Avenue, also known as Camillus House, right?
Commissioner Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I question, should we hear this now, since
item 28 is also I think in reference to the Camillus House, or is it just the
homeless situation?
Mayor Suarez: I think they are dealing with the whole issue of a homeless
- coordinator and all that.
Vice Mayor Dawkins: Why don't we take this one up now?
Commissioner Plummer: Mr. Manager, for the record, you had two appraisals, a
second time, is that correct?
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Mr. Odio: Yes.
Commissioner Plummer: All right, the low appraisal was how much?
Mr. Odio:_ $800,000, I believe.
Commissioner Plummer: And the high appraisal was...?
Mr. Odio: $1,300,000.
Commissioner.Plummer: $1,200,000, I heard.
Commissioner Alonzo: Two.
Commissioner Plummer: $1,200,000.
Mr. Odic: ,A million two point something.
rrarw►t,..i.,n..,. P!:m*er: So than the avara=a of the two apprai..i* is
$ltOOO,000, is that correct?
Mr. Odio: Yes.
Commissioner Plummors OK, now, tell me what does this amendment today have an
far as... are we still on the some negotiated of being a contributor and
benefactor of $2,000,0004
Mr. Mai The purchase price is a million...
Cos issiot er Hummers No, sir, the total. cost.
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Commissioner Alongot Pius?
Mr. Odio: Pius we would give them $100,000 a year towards the...
Commissioner Plummer: All right, I'll ask my question again. What is the
total cost of the taxpayers to close the Camillus House deal?
Mr. Odio: $2,000,000...
Commissioner Plummer: $2,000,000. OK, call it what you want, whether it is a
supplement, or whatever, the cost to the taxpayers is $2,000,000, based on
what is the agreed average of the two of $1,000,000. Now, just for the
record, they are proposing to move the Camillus House a block and a half from
the east to a block and a half west of the arena. Am I correct? '
Mr. Odior It's next to Lummus Park, in that area.
Commissioner Plummer: Is that not, Mr. Bailey, a block and one-half...
Mr. Bailey: From the arena. The new site...
Commissioner Plummer: Yes.
Mr. Bailey: On the west side of I-95, it's about two blocks.
- Commissioner Plummer: All right, two blocks, all right. So instead of moving
out of the area, they are going to move from a block and one-half east to two
blocks west of the arena. For all practical purposes, they are not moving out
of the area, correct?
Mr. Bailey: That is correct, Commissioner. That's one..
Commissioner Plummer: Now, part of this money and their proposal, was to
establish satellite serving stations, correct?
Mr. Bailey: Feeding stations.
Commissioner Plummer: Of which they now have established one at 6th and'
Flagler in a church and my phone has been ringing off the hook saying',"Whyjo
i are you taking` a bad area and waking it worse?" 'Now. I dGp't underattnd, for
the life of me,, the Rtseve` Misaiian&_ - >�ioa dealt with, tid' In
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there is ae disturbed. I don't understand for the life of me, rat
and foremost, how we can give someone $2,000,000 for $1,000,000'of value'.
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Second of`all, 'they are not'moving out of the downtown, they are moving from
one '°side of the arena to the other side and I just want to remind the
Administration, in all interest of fairness of the letter I received from the
Miami Rescue Mission asking to be treated just as fairly as you could or could
not treat the Camillus House, that we made a provision in their contract, that
if for whatever reason, any day they vacated those premises, that the City got
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proposed with Camillus House. In all fairness, if this passes, I am then_
going to offer a motion that in fact you deal with both in equal terms,
especially the 'one who moved, out oE- wea •at Iw
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Mayor Suarers vice Mayor Dawkins.
Dice Mayor Dawkins: The last page, which it looks, there is an addendum,
first you've got to delete "H" or "K," because they are both the 'same thing`'
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i "H" and "K", 'Now, problems with it is, it says the property is currently used
to provide overnight shelter for approximately 100 persons and a daily meal
{ for over 1,000 persons, Within 12 months after the closing date, the seller
shall discontinue the daily meals services for any but residents of the
facility, when will they finally, "permanently and forever move?' Beciusef;
according to this, all it says that within 12 months, they will be down to
feeding only the people who reside at the facility, but nowhere here do Qu
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Commissioner Plummer: Well, Mr. Dawkins, may 1 interject something here? i
think it has to be remembered that presently the facility as even proposed
cannot be built becauseitdoes not conform to zoning and it will have to go
through a complete zoning application which I'm assuming, would take, Mr.
Manager, six months under normal conditions. Soyou're talking, and that's it
are give them another piece of property to use for a parking facility. That's
across, as I understood it, the parking that they wanted is on a piece of
property across the street and that's what they need for compliance, am I
correct?
Mr. Odio: Well, true, but the issue is also that the people that use this
facility don't have any cars, you know.
Commissioner Plummer: Well, that's not the point. To comply, they've got to
have it.
Vice Mayor Dawkins: Can I get an answer to my question?
Commissioner Plummer: OK, I just wanted to give you that.
Vice Mayor Dawkins: Thank you. Can I get an answer to my question, when will
Camillus House cease to operate where they are operating?
Mr. Bailey: In the addendum, Commissioner, it is not clear. In fact does not
even address the point. The item you just read was from the addendum
submitted as a negotiating point with Camillus House. Our contract originally
stated that they would be out of the facility and location within 18 months
after the date of purchase.
Vice Mayor Dawkins: OK, but see, that's not in here.
Mr. Bailey: I know. You are correct. The addendum would nullify that
provision in our contract and we accept the addendum, yes.
Commissioner Plummer: I'd like to offer them $1,000,000 and let them run. —
Vice Mayor Dawkins: That's right, this would. Yes, all right now, the second
part, and under no circumstances am I as a person going to vote for it, but
there ,again, I can vote for the rest of it. It says here any hazardous
material, in the event the purchaser determines that there is hazardous
material, waste or toxic substance found in or on the property, purchaser,
which is the..City of Miami, as an alternative to voiding this agreement, may _
take any corrective actions to void this. agreement, no, I mean, -to remove or
eliminate this material at its own cost.
Mr. Bailey: That is a concession, Commissioner, we could recommend, that
would not have any additional cost to the City, because when we bid the site
out, once we acquire it and put it out for development, we can pass that cost
onto the developer.
Vice Mayor Dawkins: OK, I go by there...
Commissioner -Plummer: Wait, whoa, whoa, excuse me.
Commissioner Alonso: What about the payment for the testing?
Vice Mayor Dawkins: Go right ahead, J.L.
Commissioner Plummer: Wait a minute, what happened to us across the street?
How much snoulo we pay over there when this developer or somebody covered it
over with a bulldozer and that we paid $160,000, was it?
Mr. Dailey; That is correct, Commissioner. We did not have the provision
that passed the obligation to the developer in that lease agreement. We can
adjust it in a new leas• agree..,
Commissioner Plummer; But we are buying... you don't think a developer is
going; to coma in theme today and accept that property without that provision
of hazardous waste.
'441107; We could do that, because we make
payment up and down.
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Ms. Linda Kiersons but the Commission needs to be made aware that although us
den pass along the cost, we can't pass along the liability and that's a '
concern. If there hazardous material on the property, everybody is liable.
Mayor Suarez: Everybody in the line of succession is liable.
Vice Mayor Dawkins Say what now?
Ms. Kiersons That's right, everybody is liable.
Vice Mayor Dawkins: All right.
Ms. Kiersons While we may be able to pass along the cost of the removal, we
cannot pass along the liability associated with the environmental hazard.
Vice Mayor Dawkins You have answered my question, OK? Why should I allow
Camillus House to pass on to me its liability, whatever it may be, for a part
of removing this toxic material.
Mr. Bailey: They were not...
Vice Mayor Dawkins: Wait a minute, Mr. Manager, wait a minute. The City
Attorney just said, sir, that you cannot pass on your liability. So what we
are doing, we're telling them because we are benevolent, and J.L. always says.,
you got the taxpayers' money, you know, you don't have to pay it, we'll gat
the money.
Mr. Baileys Commissioner, I'd just like to make a clarification on what she
said, and we both heard the same thing. If that applies to us, it also
applies to the previous owner. That means they still are liable regardless of
whether or not we take it on. It goes back to the original owner and
sometimes all the way back to the person who caused the pollution; if you can.
_ind uuL whc theq were.
Commissioner Alonso: Was the law in effect?
Commissioner Plummer: Herb, why would the City not demand that they give us a
certificate that thare are no hazardous wastes and that can be determined.
Mr. Bailey: I would say we should demand that. I think what we are dealing,
here with now is a matter of... we are dealing with.an emergency., we are
dealing with the problems of downtown, we are dealing with a lot of things
with which there are...
Commissioner Plummer: What is the emergency? _
Mr. Bailey: Well, we have people who...
Commissioner Plummer: To move them a block and one-half to two blocks?
Mr. Baileys No, no, we have a lot of concern on the part of an existing
developer and future developers and people who are tenants that are very.
concerned about their environment that Camillus house creates. We have been>
dealing with this for three or four years.
Commissioner Plummer: What is the difference environment if they can ;look
from the 15th floor over straight down or over cattywampus and see the same
dsmn thing?
Mr. Baileys It's not the some thing, Commissioner.
Mr. Odio: Commissioner, the proposed...
Mayor Suaraz: It's a whole different kind of facility over there. We've gone
through this already. Everybody knows bow we feel.
Mr. Odics The proposed site will only house ls0 residents.
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are ; very practical man, but let as tell you what you are overlooking_. Y
site they presently have only houses loc. It doesn't spook to the 300 ea th
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sidewalk that you tell me cannot be removed and you know as well as I do the
minute that new facility is established, you are going to have the same
problem there that you've got over on 1st Avenue, There's no way you can stop
it. If you would, you could stop it today and .it wouldn't even be a problem
before us. .
Mr. Odios Well, that's one slight...
Commissioner Plummar: How would you stop it tomorrow? Just because they have
a new facility, doesn't mean that there are not going to be 300 people•on the
sidewalk.
Mr. Baileys Commissioner, they are just...
Commissioner Plummer: You can't guarantee me that.
Mr. Bailey: We can't guarantee that, no, but...
Mr. Odio: No, we cannot.
Mr. Baileys ... but that one is quite different than the new operation. They
will not have the feeding, the soup kitchen.
Commissionar Plummers Oh, I understand that. I understand that.
Commissioner Alonso: Yes, because we are just changing the location. Now it
is going to be in Little Havana because right here in this building they are
going to start serving 200 people according to what they say, but we know
quite well that it is going to be much more than that.
Vice Mayor Dawkins: Mr. Mayor, just a minute, I beg to be excused, because
the last time we discussed moving things from Little Havana to different
places, I spoke up and than I got placed in the papers, so I don't even want•
to be here.
Commissioner Plummer: Miriam, excuse me...
Ms. Kiernan: Vice Mayor...
Mayor Suarez: Let the record reflect that any comment from this moment
forward does not include the voice of Vice Mayor Miller Dawkins that can be
attributed to his Blues Brother, J. L. Plummer, or anybody else.
Commissioner Plummer: This is only the first of many places that they are
going to use.
Commissioner Alonsor I know, I know, and the problem is, how in the world the
City of Miami will pay $2,000,000 for this property and then create problems
all through the City of Miami by allowing this to be the case. We know quite
well that East Little Havana has had enough problem. Ve did a study in '$I-
's2, and we say that area could not stand any more problems. It is one of the
worst areas In the City of Miami and we are just sending more problems to that
area. i don't know how can we possibly explain this. We are not resolving
the problem of the Camillus House. We are paying $2,000,000, we are creating
more problems 'for the City. What are we doing?
G Mr. Bailey: May I explain for a minute, please?. She had a question, go
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Commissioner
Plummer: Let me correct
a statement you made. They are going to
'be -feeding at that facility,- supposedly
only the occupants of the structure,
but they are
going to be feeding.
Mr. Bailey:
All right, that would be
sort of a halfway house, which...
Commissioner
Plummers You said that
there would no feeding. There will be!
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Mr. Bailey:
No feeding lines. There
will be no feeding kitchen.
Commissioner Plummer:
Well, you didu't say that.
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Mr. Sailey: Weil, I stand corrected. That would be no soup kitchen for which
you have the general public coming. Can I make one statement? Camillus
House...
Mayor Suarez: May, to Herb, wait a minute, we've done this calculation
before, but just so that Commissioner Alonzo, in case she hasn't heard it.
Camillus House, typically, and I think I am right on this figure, feeds as
many as Sao people a day.
.Mr. Bailay: 1500.
Mayor Suarez:... with 60 beds, so it works out like 15 to 1, or 16 to 1 and
the idea is that that kind of functioning is not recommended any more'by the
homeless coalition, by anybody who is trying to deal with the homeless.
Presumably the new facility would feed only the people who are residing there
and in fact will be preempted by our zoning laws from feeding anyone also.
Commissioner Alonzo: ?es, that will happen in that area, but what about in
the other areas of the City?
Mayor Suarez: Then we have to of course deal with the efforts to decentralize
the feeding of people who are homeless. We have to deal with the. homeless
anyhow, I mean, they shouldn't be homeless.
Commissioner Alonso: Well, as a matter of fact, we are not really dealing
with the problem, that's a fact.
Mayor Suarez: We're not doing a real good job of it, we are improving, let me
tell you.
Mr.,Bailey: I would just like to make a statement for the record. We are not
recommending and we never have recommended that Camillus House move anywhere.
We are only recommending that we buy the facility so we can have the site. In
terms of what rwighhe+ rhood will accept and will not accept, I'm pretty sure
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that the political concerns and pressure that s been exerted in other
neighborhoods can be exerted in Little Havana and I'm pretty sure that if that
kind of resistance is there, they will not move. We're concerned about buying
the facility and moving there. Where they move is their problem.
Commissioner Plummer: No, Lt's... well, it's their problem until it gets to
our level.
Mr. Bailey: Well, no, I'm saying, you are going to have that problem
regardless. They are going to move eventually. We are not advocating, that
they locate'to anybody's neighborhood. That neighborhood has:to :wake that
decision. and that decision will be made the same way that they have not been
able to make a decision on any other neighborhood, because the moment they
select one, they come here and the people in the neighborhood protest,, and
they don't go. If everybody protests, I don't know what may happen, but our
concern is to buy the facility and move them.
Commissioner Plummer: I still, for the life of me, can't understand how you
are, going to take 42,000,000 of taxpayer's money to buy a...
Mr. Bailey: The Commission made that recommendation, we didn't.
Commissioner Plummer: ... piece of property that in appraised at $1,000,0001,
Mr.. Bailey: We did not recommend $2,0009000.
Mr. Odio: Commissioner, that agreement...
Vice Mayes Dawkins: J.L., you are not being consistent.
Or. Odio: Being consistent, the Commission negotiated that agreement. _-
Mr. Bailey: Absolutely, we did not, as you remember.
Commissioner Plummer: No, no, excuse me, just for the record, and -I'n not
casting. any aspersions. The Commission, Commission 0R Turre, and I;respsct
his, nsgotiating... three votes of this Commission voted to give them thjkt,
Twa, votes of this Commission said no Way, OX? go iet's.umeke the racord;4leat.
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Mr. Odiot All we did here was bring...
Commissioner Plummert There is no way that I am going to give anybody
$1,0006000 more than they are entitled to.
Mr. Odiot No, what we did here is bring back an item that...
Commissioner Plummert I'm not finding fault with you. The Commission
instructed you.
Mr. Odics This is already negotiated. This is an agreement that was already
signed by Camillus House and all we are doing here is saying, let me allow to
close, based on what you passed.
Commissioner Plummert And let me tell you, I do not find in here the
provision that was put in at my request, even though I was on the losing side,
that the money that they derive from this had to be spent in Dade County
addressing the homeless issue. I don't find that, OK?
Mr. Odio: That was a condition that I remember and should be incorporated.
Commissioner Plummert I haven't... Will somebody show it to me?
Mayor Suarez: That's fully agreeable, it is fully agreeable to them. It
might go counter to some of the other ideas of hoping that the homeless will
kind of leave the County and go away, but...
Mr. Odio: I also want to tell you, Commissioner, that the Beckham Hall
experiment, which is what it really was...
Commissioner Plummer: Is a total loss.
Mr. Odic: It is not, it le working very well.
Commissioner Plummer: Let me tell you...
Mr. Odio: I consider, Commissioner, that if we save ten people that have now
jobs and are productive, that was a success.
Commissioner Plummert Mr. Manager, you see that's one of the things where you
don't go to the meetings that we do. I wish you had been at the Allapattah
Community Development meeting .on Wednesday night. One of their biggest
problems and one of their 'loudest outbursts was over Beckham Hall of how you
have, effected theirarea by bringing these victims of society, Miller...
victims of society into their neighborhood, OK? Now, you know, it's the old
namby, not in my backyard! I'm saying, lays take, if you want to address the
homeless issue, let's take the $2,000,000, start a Camillus House and put them
out of business. I just for the life of me don't understand. —
Commissioner Alonsot I want to put on record that we are quite aware that we
are creating another problem for the City of Miami.
Commissioner Plummer: Many.
Comsmissioner.Alonso: We going to have different spots<all:through the City of
Miami and I want you to be very well aware before you give a Mote here today
that when we have people coming back to us and tellin us we have more problems
in our community now because we also have the feeding in our neighborhoods and
it's going to be all over town. It is going to be starting in 6th and
!Hagler, in Mast Little Havana where they cannot stand any more problems,
what* the people who can barely survive day by day, because the situation
there is horrible, it is called the Vietnamese area and it is not because we
have Vietnam these, because we have people killing each other, because we have
drugs, because we have all kinds of crime, and it is horrible, the situation
and we are telling the people, we want to improve your neighborhood. Is that s
the way we are doing it? I can't believe that we are giving $2,000,000 and 'we
ars not even facing the issue of the homeless.`
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Mr. ; $atloy: It's a pretty big
everything you are saying and I
everywhere all the time about whose
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atatertent I made to Brother Paul some time ago when he said they have a tight
to be there and what they are doing there is just in cause and God's on their
side. I just had to remind him God is on the people's .side that he just put
out of business. He's on everybody's side. It's a big backyard. We have to
decide what backyard can we put it in.
Commissioner Plummer: Well, achy not...
Commissioner Alonso: Mr. Bailey, why not there then? Why are you asking us
to move Camillus House?
Mr. Baileys We are not asking you to move Camillus House. I'm asking... we
want to buy the site now.,.
Commissioner Alonsos Are you happy with it? Do you think you can be
successful in all the projects that you have there?
Mr. Bailey: I will give you some economic figures, if you want to reduce it
doom to dollars. This City has already spent, and not counting the
$57,000,000 for the arena... $32,000,000. We have $10,000,000 from the
Federal government.
Commissioner Plummert Where does this $57,000,000 come for the arena?
Mr. Bailey: That's from another...
Commissioner Plummer: I thought it was fifty.
Mayor Suarez: Fifty-two.
Mr. Bailey: Fifty-two, it is $100,000,000 all together. I may have a few
nickels and dimes off, but we are in the ballpark. We have thirty-two...
Mayor 3uarec: Yau know wh.6 i:hay say in Cwngreus, a biliio,, dvliars here, c
billion dollars there, pretty soon you are talking about real money!
Mr. Bailey: But. let me tell you what you are talking about and why some
decision has- to be made sooner or later. We've got $32,000,000 of public
money from the City of Miami in that location. We've got another $10,000,000
from the Federal government that this Commission fought very hard for, we went
to Washington to lobby to get. We got three developers. One developer is
.spending $22,000,000, another $28,000,000, another 49,000,000 and we hope„ to
get much more. When you look at that and in terms of what we have to do to
-make sure that that does not cause. you to lose that kind of money, then you
have to realize that we have to make some kind of decision soon.
Commissioner its But you see, the problem is, and I've said this to you
bef m ••and' S •-1.1°- lay- it _._. voitl&_fael entirely different on the
Issue 'and.. Would � abvnt if they were moving
out of tire- assea, bat they're sot t
Mr. Bailey: The mutter of moving is something that probably has to be
addressed in some other arena. I don't know what to do about that.
Commissioner Plummer: No, no, this arena, this arena, right here, OK? Now,
you got the Ulvation Army, who is b8sicel1L..iabosiatts, they went
tffsat up to the warehouse district, around 2Brd iNt•1vanua. You've got
--the Rescue Mission that went up to 22nd Street and let Avenue. You don't hear
any complaints because there is...
Mr. Baileys !Maybe we ought to try to negotiate another site, if we want to "
got into that, but you know.
Commissioner Plumomors I'd fool a hall of a lot better and I would be willing
to go-maore than the $1,000,000. I don't know that I'd go $2,000,000. But to
allow them to go two blocks to the west, instead of a block and one-half to
the cast, and ,to establish six to twelve satellite serving areas, I don't
think are are accomplishing,.. you know, fine, for the Ovortown, maybe we are
helping them a little bit, but what in the hell are we doing to Little Havana?
What are we dnina to A1lanattah9 Vhat ,r. wa
Vice Mayor Dawkins: stow, I visa going to try not to say nothing, hold it, hold
it, I was going to try not to say anything, OK? - but what is that little
lady's name who came here from Lummus Park, the littl'e...
Commissioner Plummer: Mrs. Miller.
Vice Mayor Dawkins All right, that lady has been here complaining from day
one that we not put this in her neighborhood. That lady brought, who?...
Goodman in here, Gutman... to speak on her behalf. Gutman went to Tallahassee
in an effort to get some aid of relief and this Commission ignored that lady
in totality, but now it is going in one area, we are concerned now about the
area. See now, I'll be back in The Miami Herald in the morning, but I mean,
so be it, you know? If you can't stand the heat, -got out of the kitchen, OK?
All right, see, so now, if it is all right now for that little white lady to
come down here and tell you she don't want it in her neighborhood and you
ignore her, then you also got to ignore these other Latin Spanish people over
here who say he want it, if you are going to be fair, OK? But now I am sure
that there are some people who may want it. I don't know, but let's be fair
up here if you are not going to be fair, then you know, let's don't pussyfoot
around. You know, don't say that you are concerned about one area, we are
concerned about the total City of Miami and don't nobody raise no more hell
than the other one.
Commissioner Plummer: Just for my own satisfaction I've got to put on the
record. I brought to this Commission's attention in which the Brothers of The
Good Shepherd bought a private home in the Roads section for $185,000 in cash,
spent $100,000 in cash to fix up the house and put in a pool, for $285,000.
As I announced before, that is my kind of poverty. It is now for sale for
4285,000.
Mayor Suarez: OK, Commissioners, we have debated, discussed, analyzed.
Commissioner Alonzo was not with us through all of these meetings. I really
think that it is time to decide what we are going to do on this and...
Commissioner De Yurre: I think Mr. Mayor, that one thing we have to address
is,:one of my understandings was, the soup line, as far as the satellite
concept was concerned, they would go to existing services that were providing
that kind of service.
Mr. Bailey: That was for churches.
Commissioner De Turret Churches, that were already providing soup lines to
feed and they would take on a few extra more and kind of spread it out, and I
need to be corrected if I am wrong. My understanding is that these two _
hundred that they are talking about in East Little Havana, that would be a new
facility that did not exist there, is that correct?
Mr. Bailey: That's correct.
Commissioner Plummer: Brand new, it used to be a funeral hone.
Commissioner De Turret What, Rivera?
Commissioner Plummer: Yes.
Vice Mayor Dawkins: What, Plummer's funeral?
Commissioner Plummers I wish.
Commissioner De Turret OR, is that the case?
Hayor Suarez: Well, you are saying that would be.
talking about the church that has been built there?
Commissioner Alonso: Tom.
Commissioner Plummer: It's a brand new facility.
mayor Suarez: It is there.
Commissioner Plummer:
Let me clarify. You are
It's just been opened up in the last...
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Commissioner Aloriso: The church is... trot yet.
Commissioner be Yurre: But have they been feeding? Are they providing a
dirvice? The concept was that they would not go. into with this concept into
any area that didn't already have this type of facilit7.'
Mayor Suarezt Well, that's a good question in terms of the toning. I mean, i
don't know what required zoning, what zoning you are required to have to be
able to feed 200 people.
Commissioner Plummer: It's a high commercial.
Mayor Suarez: Well, from a church, but I mean I predict...
Mr. Bailey: We were not really a part of the new location in Little Havana.
Mayor Suarez: This is not anything that we decided ourselves, but what are
our guidelines if any applicable to that situation, Herb?
Mr. Bailey: Right, in terms of the churches, I understand, to the best of my
knowledge that the overture was made to many of the churches throughout the
Miami community, there was -not a wide acceptance of the churches to be
involved in the feeding. I can imagine, and I am pretty sure they put forth
an effort to contact these churches and we just didn't have any takers. As I
say...
Mayor Suarezt Well, in this particular case...
Mr. Baileyt We don't know, nobody wants it in their backyard.
Mayor Suarez: But this particular case he's talking about... _
Commissioner Plummer: That's not a true statement. They don't have any
p_-:,tlan :.a ►.he watubnuse district, uxt There has not been a single complai�it.
Mayor Suarez: You mean because of the Rescue Misslas?
Commissioner Plummsrs Me, there is no one there to -ramgisia. :,?iota is ow.-ese
there to be disturbed. -
Mayor Suarez: The Rssau&- Mission is a different kind of a facility.
Commissioner De Yurre: Now, let me finish my second...
Mayor Suarez: No, th_e_= don't have a soup kitchen for people that don't live
there
Commissioner De Yurre: ... point. The second point that I have is that here
we are looking out for the economic interest of that neighborhood, of the
immediate area, all right? The economic benefit of the owners that own the
property in that area, and I have yet to see owners coming here and saying,
"Hey, we are Milling to put up dollars to clean the area, you don't ' have to
put up all the money. We're willing to go on a partnership type of thing, we
are willing to put up money because it is going to benefit us." When Camillus
House is gone, all those properties are going to go up in value, who is to
benefit if not the property owners that are there right now and yet, they just
went to windfall. I don't see them doing a damn thing to help in that
process. Now, we come up with the asbestos issue and I'll be damn if I am
willing to give another penny, you know, either if there -is an expense thee,
they have to pick up that expense. If they are not willing to do that, then
we walk ` away from it and let Camillus House be there for eons and that Is the
end of that.
Mr. Bailey: That's not that simple, Commissioner. No, no, let me respond to
that. This City Commission and the County decided' to make that a
redevelopment district, we didn't. We were given the task to make it ' work.
By the time we got started there, any business that was in that area that bad
any chance of succeeding had already gone out of business because of the
environment. The only beneficiary now to anything that is'happehing.,fin 'that;
-- f IGRSlAR9 I e 1 1 t�
That will not be any reinvestment in that area. People who were there, who
had businesses, have gone out of business. There has been any number before
us, in fact, one of the facilities that Camillus House owns was bought after
the Studio of Lighting went into default because they couldn't do business.
The property owners there would not benefit, We mould benefit do to
redevelopment process, through more taxes, more reinvestment and a relief on
some of the services that you have to provide because you have Camillus House
there to...
Commissioner De Yurre: Herb, are you telling me that once Camillus House is
gone, or that Camillus House is not the cancer of that area,. once Camillus
House is gone and you've cured that cancer, there is no reason, that is a
prime area next to downtown, there is no reason for that area not go up with
redevelopment and that property goes up in value tremendously.
Mr. Bailey: We hope so, because we'd get a lot of taxes in the trust fund and
then we can finish doing the redevelopment.
Commissioner De Yurra: Well then, don't tell me that these guys don't have to
benefit from it.
Commissioner Plummer: Let me ask another question, Herb, and maybe I
shouldn't be directing it to you, because I fully understand you're not in the
business of the political, which we are. What the hall is going to happen to
all of these people? Are they going to disappear?
Mr. Bailey: They will not disappear.
Commissioner Plummer: They are talking about...
Commissioner Alonso: Going where?
Commissioner Plummer,: They are going to talk about 100 people. Now, they are
telling sz that they feed :,000, 1,500. Whara are these thousand people going
to go? Are they going to leave the area?
Commissioner Do Yurre: St. Peter and Paul.
Commissioner Plummer: St. Peter and Paul? Hey, they've got to go somewhere.
Mr. Bailey: The solution to the problem that we have there is a national
problem, Commissioner and we're not saying that because we buy Camillus House,
we're going to solve the problem of the homeless, the mentally ill, and the
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street people.
Commissioner Plummer: That's not my point.
Mr. Bailey: That's not what we are doing.
Commissioner Plummer: My point is that if I accept what they say here, that
they are feeding 1,000 people, and I accept that in the new facility they are
only going to feed the occupants, which you are roughly 100. Where is the
other 900 going to go?
Mr. Bailey: They are going to stay on the street where they are.
Commissioner Plummer: What?
Mr. Bailey& They'll stay on the street just like they were.
Commissioner Plummer: And do you know where they are going to stay? They are
going to stay right where the hell they are. You know why? That traffic
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light is one of the best in town. They aren't going to move.
Mr. Bailey: You Mont have the attraction of the food. That does create more
people. Every city in the Country has homeless in this downtown. Well, I'm
not saying we are going to eliminate that situation. I'm saying we are going
to eliminate a concentration in a specific spot. You are going to have'°
homeless all over the City until the problem is solved nationally. We arb,not
attempting to solve that problem. We should address it in some other
situation, but this is not an effort to solve tho homeless problem.
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Commissioner Plummer: Well, give the then, your justification of paying
$2400400 for $1,000,000...
Mr. Saileyt I did not recommend that ,and we never would recommend anything
above the appraisals that we get, we are bound by administrative order and the
Charter to do that. This Commission decided $2,000,000 as a matter of
expediency to get theta to sign the agreement.
Commissioner De Yurret They want more.
Commissioner Plummer: Who cares what they want. Hey, they want the world.
Mayor Suarezt Mr. Vice Mayor.
Vice Mayor Dawkins: I want to put on the record, we're being unfair to the
business establishments in that area, the business people, the downtown
people, merchants, all have come forward in an effort asking us and offering
assistance in the removal or relocation of the homeless, so don't say that
nobody elso is concerned. We do have the downtown merchants and everybody who
is willing, to help us. Mr. Mayor, I think he's been trying to say
something.
Mr. Eladio Armesto: Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Suarez: I'm not sure of the relevancy of this Mr. Armesto, but try ua
sir, very quickly and briefly.
Mr. Armesto: My name is Eladio Armesto. I am here on behalf of the owners of
Arena Towers, the two buildings, 17 and 18 story buildings across the street
from Miami Arena.
Mayor Suarez: There are no owners of Arena Towers other than the developers
because those are rental buildings.
Mr. Armesto: OK, the developers, let's put it that way.
Mayor Suarez: You are representing the developers?
Mr. Armesto: Yes, the two corporations, Park West Limited and Park West
Investments.
Mayor Suarez: Are you a registered lobbyist on their behalf, or...
Mr. Armesto: I am part owner of those.
Mr. Bailey: 8e is one of the investors, he says.
Mr. Armesto: A few months ago I was talking to. Brother Harry, Brother Paul
and Brother Jack.
Commissioner Plummer: I thought Brother Paul was gone?
Mr. Armesto: The problem is a problem of numbers. They only feed there 700
people a day, not 1,000, not 1,500. Seven hundred people a day, that is the
soup kitchen. The soup kitchen they have, Mr. Mayor and Commissioners.`.-.
Commissioner Plummers Wait, a minute, just for the record, let me correct you
to this point. In their document, not ours, and it is not that I pulled
numbers out of the air, let me. read to you from the -document. OK? The
property is currently used to provide overnight shelter for approximately 100
persons and a daily meal for over 1,000 persons.
Mr.'Armesto: 700.
Commissioner'Plumassr: That's their document.
Mr. Armostos Still, Mr. Commissioner.
Mayor Suarez; It varies, it varies. Some days 800, some days 700, some days
1,000.
Mr,. Armesto; The maximum is 700, the maxim=.
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Mayor Suarez: The average may be 800. Go ahead.
Mr. Armesto: They go from Monday to Saturday. They don't feed on Sundays.
Mayor Suarez: That's right.
Mr. Armesto: The soup line, you call the soup kitchen line is because they
only have a seating capacity of 35 people. They seat 35 people each time and
until those 35 people are fed, they don't come out and other 35 go in.
Therefore, I went to see several people, even in Overtown and in Little
Havana, to get a place to move the soup kitchen. I found this church in 641
West Flagler Street who is willing and able to facilitate the second floor of
the building, which is the zoning regulations there are completely met. It is
zoned CR-3/7 commercial zoning that allows restaurants, dining rooms, hotels,
transients everything is allowed there up today. I went to see the pastor of
the church, Mr. Armada. He 'gave orders free, without any charge, without
paying any money rent, even one dollar a year, the use of the facility to feed
the people there. Why there? Because there will not be any line.
Commissioner Plummer: What is the address?
Mr. Armesto: 64 West Flagler Street, across the street from the old. funeral
home. The congregation owns almost the full blocks in two sides of the
street. They own the whole block and there is not going to be any line at. All
on the sidewalk because the seating capacity at one given time of the second
floor is 1,000 persons. You can sit there in a very comfortable manner...
Commissioner Plummer: Are you talking about the old Flagler Street Hotel?
Mr. Armesto: No, no, this is a new building, Commissioner. It is a three
story building next to the old Flagler Street Hotel, next to the hotel. It is
a new building. It is a three-story building plus a parking garage and oven
:here you wil! not see any people on the street because at one time 700 people
can sit there to receive their meals and the agreement with Brother Harry,
Brother Paul and Brother Jack is to send these people over there. They are
being fed at one time only and go out. But for your information...
Commissioner Plummer: Go out where?
Mr. Armesto: To where they came from.
Commissioner Plummer: To where?
Mr. Armesto: To the moon or the streets or someplace else, but for your own
information, the same facility exists right now in NW 2nd Street and the Miami
River, where the Salvation Army has five buildings there doing the same thing,
even with drug addicts, halfway house, drug people, alcohol, and everything
between NW 2nd Street and the Miami River... _
Mayor Suarez: What, Mr. Armesto, is your point, unless Commissioner Plummer
Is inquiring, what is your point? What are you trying to tell us?
Mr. Armesto: My point to show you what is happening right now in order to
stop that crying wolf because the wolf is there and nobody has said. The
other facility, the Salvation Army is at 905 West Flagler Street, where they
have breakfast and • lunch and the other facility is at 1398 SW let Street is
the corner of 14th Avenue, SW let Street, half a block from the telephone
company office.
Commissioner Plummer: Excuse me, those are entirely different facilities.
Mr. Armesto: No, sir.
Commissioner Plummer: I4th Avenue and 1st Street is a facility operated by
the Salvation Army for battered women. f
Mr. Armastos No, sir.
Coamissioner Plummer: Teo, sir.
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Mr. Armesto: tot every woman that goes there and needs to be fed and needs to
be sleeping over there.
Oott13t1issioner Plummer: it is a facility for battered women. The facility on
lnd Street and River Drive is basically a housing facility, OK? - it's a
halfway house. You have another halfway house across from Victoria Hospital.
Mr, Armesto: But you have another one in 905 Flagler.
Commissioner Plummer: But you don't have 300 to 500 people sleeping on the
sidewalks.
Mr. Armesto: I'm not talking about the sleeping. I am talking about the
feeding of the people. The feeding...
Commissioner Plummer: But you are not going to stop it. You are'not going to
stop it!
Mr. Armesto: The feeding of the people, the feeding of people a day, maximum
Will be dome at one time at 641 West Flagler Street, only one shot, and that's
it. .
Commissioner Plummer: But they are not going to leave, they are going to stay
there.
Commissioner Alonzo: Exactly.
Mr. Armesto: Why?
Commissioner Plummer: Because they've got nowhere to go.
Mr. Armesto: They don't stay in the other place.
Mr. :zrias�o: Sure trey da. They are aLound the Camillus House all day long.
Mr. Armesto: Because Camillus House, in that facility, has sleeping
facilities:
Commissioner Plummer: No, no, no, excuse me. Once they feed them, they still
stay there. They sleep there all night. They are out there on cardboard.
Mr. Armesto: I tell you...
Commissioner'Plummsr: Let -me tell you, the feeding place is the nucleus, OK?
They are going to go and stay in the area amass --tin# are .bsism fade that's
why I say,go to `a warehosssfs district. There is-nobeft to be bother. There's
no places to break into. I'm saying to you, there you are not bothering
anybody.
Mr. Armesto: Mr. Commissioner...
Mayor Suarez: Commissioner, that matter... wait a minute, wait a minute!
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That matter is not before us. What's before us is whether we want to acquire
the property known as Camillus House. Where the same people are fed, we can
affect With all kinds of other regulatory tools that we have at our disposal..'.
No one wants to have a situation where 15 people are being fed for every one
that is being housed and that we can attack from many other ways'. We can try
to direct them to the warehouse district like !Miami Rescue Mission. AetmAly,
I don't U teed there anybody except the peopto was- Are th=V, wh.c!:
i's the ideal way.
Commissioner Plummer; That's correct.
Mayor Suarez: And we don't disagree on any of that. We have a policy
decision which I don't know, Mr. Armesto, what more you can add to that, which
is whether we are going to pay what we have negotiated, whether we are going
to amend the prior conditions at the request of the Camillus House or their
request to our staff, because of the problem of possible contamination and we
gust have to make that decision today. I think that is unfair to the citizens
of Miami, not to mention the Commission, that we constantly rehash this whole
thing. 'The philosophy of all this is as complicated as the problem its*If aAd'
God knows it is a complicated problem.
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Mr. Armesto: Mr. Mayor, only one minute please, to finish. Is this, for your
information, before you make the decision on not to buy Camillus House or not.
rot example, you have there, promises, the City of Miami is backing up more
than $100,000,000 of investments down there.
Mayor Suarez: That point has been made by Mr. Bailey.
Mr. Armesto: Listen, listen to me carefully. If those towers, or those
buildings _ , I will lose something, the others will lose
something, but the City is going to lose more and then who is going to be in
the business of running the apartment building, you people?
Mayor Suarez: We are fully aware of that, we...
Mr. Armesto: You got a worse impression, because every weekend,- Arena flower
loses $12,000 to $13,000 in refund money to tenants that go there Monday,
Tuesday and when they see the whole thing there, they said, "Hey, kid, give me
my money back, I don't want to live over here," where I have to see these
people.
Mayor Suarez: We're aware of all that.
Mr. Armesto: And...
Mayor Suarez: We're aware of all that and we'd like the project to succeed.
The question is...
Mr. Armesto: Like it or no, you are part of the marriage to the marriage.
Mayor Suarez: Right.
Mr. Armesto: I will offer on behalf of our company, addressing to -Mr. De
Y.Aa.ee Y Tha City of Miami would make more tax money from those
buildings... --
Mayor Suarez: You were about to tell us how much you are going to offer on
behalf of your...
Mr. Armesto: I will offer that if he needs any assistance and we ,can
cooperate...
Mayor Suarez: Now much are you willing to put into a pot if we have to pay
for contamination?
Mr. Armesto: We can cooperate, we talked to Cruz Development, Mr. ... -
Commissioner Plummer: Where is the check?
Mayor Suarez: What... cooperate to what extent? How much? "Dinero."
Mr. Armesto: To what extent? I cannot tell you. In money I cannot tell you,
but, if an action is neither, he can call me, or Mr. Bailey can call me...
Mayor Suarez:
We're calling you right now. We need your money.
Mr. Armesto:
And we can call them, Mr. Cruz, the
other development...
Mayor.Suarex:
To eliminate the contamination
which could break this deer
which previously was approved by 3 to 20 the slimmest of margins, all right?
Mr. Armesto:
I think we would cooperate...
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Mayor Suarez:
Well, I haven't heard any figures,
so...
Mr. Armesto: ... like a joint venture.
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Great,
Mr. Armesto;
And that, we don't opposed to that,
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Vice Mayor Dawkins: Mr. Mayor...
Mayor Suarez: All right, thank you, Mr. Armasto. Mr. Vice Mayor.
Vice Mayor Dawkins: Mr. Bailey...
Commissioner Plummer: Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Suarez: Mr. Vice Mayor and then Commissioner Plummer and hopefully
we'll vote on this.
Vice Mayor Dawkins: Ott, you've heard the concerns of the Commissioners and
each of us here share the other one's concerns. Is there any way that you can
go back to Camillus House and in the bill of sale or whatever, the concerns
raised by Commissioner Alonso that we get some assurance that Camillus House
will not move there. You've heard the concern of Commissioner' Plummer that
they move more than a block and one-half away and you've heard my concern
regarding the hazardous waste and you've heard my concern about a definite
date of removal. Do you think if this... and I'm just guessing if this was
approved tentatively...
Commissioner Plummer: No May I can go with this.
Vice Mayor Dawkins: ... with those conditions, Mould -you feel comfortable
with going to them in an effort to try to negotiate that arrangement?
Mr. Bailey: We'll go back and relay the Commission's concerns and try to
negotiate the best deal possible. On a couple of items I'd just like to --
remind you the site that's three blocks away from the arena, they own that
site and we have no prerogative there other than to not permit or permit
zoning. On the matter of the Little Havana, the Law Department will have to
determine this. I don't think we can put into an agreement of the sale that
restricts freedom of movement during the place that they would like to go. On
the maLLer of the toxic waste disposal...
Mayor Suarez: Nor do we have to, I mean, they are so restricted in their
movement, that was the whole point with the Miami Rescue Mission, there was so
few places they could go to in the City that the zoning is proper and that the
neighbors are not going to go bananas, that we actually pay them a premium for
their property because of that. The cost of relocation is incredible for this
kind of facility. That's all been stated.
Mr. Bailey: In terms of the toxic waste, Commissioner, I really would not let
that be a stumbling block. We can really satisfy that very comfortably and in
terms of a'definite date to move, I agree, we should get definite date as to
when they would move, that we could agree to some sort of settlement.
Vice Mayor Dawkins: Yon, we give them half the money before, and as they
start to move.and the other half when they move.
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Mr. Bailey: The payments are in installments. If you agree to... well of
course, what we have today, anything that is different than what the amendment
is being presented, it is an outright rejection of the amendment and we don't
have an, agreement anyway, we have to go back to negotiate. So, if you're
saying that that amendment is not acceptable and you have mentioned some things
_ in there that are not acceptable, we have to go back to the drawing table.
Mayor Suarez: It constitutes a counteroffer to them and they may not accept
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Mr. Bailey: Yes, it constitutes a counteroffer and it is null and void.
Commissioner D• Turret Their amendment constitutes a counteroffer to us.
Mayor Suarez:' To ours, yes.
Commissioner Alonso: Uactly. We don't have a contract right now. As a
matter of fact, we do not have a contract.
Commissioner De Yurra: Because, let as tell you, when we sat down and Pot a
lot of time into thus, and we came to an agreement, that was it, Then thqV.
started coming back.
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Commissioner Plummer: Wasn't there a stipulation of time in that agreement?
Commissioner lie Yurre: Yes, they said they were going to take three months
and they would have to see their pope and a whole bunch'of guys and then they
were going to cone back with it.
Commissioner Alonso: And once you change a contracts you do not have a
contract, so right now, we do nbt have a contract with thew.
Mr. Bailey: you have no contract, you...
Commissioner Plummer: Let me ask this, Mr. Bailey...
Mr. $allays .., are really voting on to accept or reject the amendment.
That's really what we have.
Commissioner Plummer: When was... there was a time limit in that other
contract.
Mr. Baileys. Eighteen months.
Commissioner Plummer: Oh, it vas a total of eighteen months?
Mr. Bailey: Eighteen months, yes.
Commissioner De Yurre: For them to be out.
Mr. Bailey: They were to be out.
Commissioner Plummer: OK, but we're still within that time frame.
Mr. Bailey: Well, the clock starts from the day you signed the agreement. We -
don't have an sgresment.
Commissioner De Yurre: Not this time, I'm not going to wait eighteen months
after this. At least, that's me, speaking.
Commissioner Plummer: Well, let me speak for the record, and then I assume we
are`'going to send it back to them. I see no reason whatsoever to deviate from
the norm. The norm .is to take two appraisals, divide it by two, that is
$1,000,000, give them a 10percent bonus and that's where I am. `I would not
offer a dime more than $1,100,000. I think that is very gracious.
Mayor Suarez: The present offer...
Mr. Bailey: We have a third appraisal already, Commissioner.
Commissioner Plummer: E=-use me, Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Suarez: Yes. _
Commissioner Plummer: Don't let me play semantic with you. That's total
cost, not in...
Mayor Suarez: OK, but all I'm saying is that in any event you are out of liae' 1
with the offer that vas made, so you'll still vote against it,. that's...
Commissioner Plummer: Well, that's what I'm saying is..
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Mayor Suarez: Now, there was a third appraisal, which was how much, Herb?
Hr. Bailey: $1,$00,000, and with considerations of some fixtures, that were
missed, we'd probably get a $1,500,000 valid appraisal out of the? sits, ' based $'=
on a review appraisal'.
Mayor Suarez: Yes, even if you took the two highest, you are still a few
hundred thousand dollars away from one point five, which he doesn't accept to
be the actual figure we are offering, because he wants to include the $3000000
Side deal, so he's still going to vote against it and we've got it on the
retard.
Commissioner Plummer: Well. if...
Mr. Bailey: We can justify one five.
Mayor Suarez: You've put it on the record probably 20 times and you've been
very consistent.
Mr. Bailey: We can justify one five. I think the other matter now is the
$300,000 which is really not for the site, it was for social services to care
for the homeless.
Mayor Suarez: Which they have to do anyhow. All right.
Mr. Bailey: Providing they were using the City of Miami.
Mayor Suarez: Right.
Mr. Bailey: Well, the $2,000,000 is still OK. We just need to get the
conditions as to when do they move, when do they stop this and other kinds. of
things and we are not arguing about the $2,000,000. I don't have the problem
with that.
Commissioner De Yurre' Well, they are arguing about the hazardous waste, the
cost of removal.
Mr. Bailey: I don't have a problem with the hazardous waste.
commissioner De Turret Well, but I Co. You see, I'm the one that has to
vote, and I do have a problem, because it becomes a :natter of principle that
I'm giving $2,000,000 of the taxpayer's money, which...
Mayor Suarez: What do you want to...
Commissioner De Turret Which as it is, you know...
Mayor Suarez: What do you want to make clear as the final terms that you
would agree to, assuming that we get three votes?
commissioner De Turret We do not give a penny more than the $2,000,000 and
that's it.
Mayor Suarez: And we absorb no costs on the issue of contamination whatsoever
and you're not willing to let the contamination be an issue for future
developers.
Commissioner De Yurre: No, no, we deal with it now.
Mayor Suarez: OK, so you want to have a guarantee that the place in fact is
not, contaminated or a cleanup of.the place.
Mr. Baileys And of the time removal.
Commissiono r Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I'd like to make a motion et this time.
Mayor Suarez: Commissioner Plw aer,
Commissionor Plu®or: I•d like to :sake a motion at this time that we offer
Camillus House a =adman total cost factor of the normal procedures of '.
$1100,000. I'll so move.
bsyor Suarext So moved. Do we have a second on that motion?
Commissioner Alonoo.t I second.
Mayor SU—srois Seconded. Amy discussion? It not,
that motion.
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please call the roll oli
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who moved
its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 00-111
A RESOLUTION REJECTING THE COUNTEROFFER PROPOSED BY
THE BROTHERS OF THE GOOD SHEPHERD, INC. ("BROTHERS")
FOR THE ACQUISITION OF THE LEASEHOLD INTEREST IN THE
PROPERTY GENERALLY LOCATED AT 700-728 NORTHEAST FIRST
AVENUE, MIAMI, FLORIDA, AND THE FEE SIMPLE INTEREST IN
THE PROPERTY GENERALLY LOCATED 732-740 NORTHEAST FIRST -
AVENUE, MIAMI, FLORIDA (COLLECTIVELY REFERRED TO AS
"CAMILLUS HOUSE"); FURTHER, OFFERING TO PURCHASE
CAMILLUS HOUSE FOR $1.2 MILLION WITH THE STIPULATIONS
THAT CAMILLUS HOUSE HAS TO BE CLOSED WITHIN EIGHTEEN
(18) MONTHS OF THE ACQUISITION DATE AND THAT ALL COSTS
ASSOCIATED WITH THE REMOVAL OF ENVIRONMENTAL
CONTAMINATION, IF ANY, SHALL BE BORNE BY THE BROTHERS.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Alonso, the -resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner Miriam Alonzo
Vice Mayor Miller J. Dawkins
NOES: Commissioner Victor Ds Yurre
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
ABSENT: None.
COMMENTS DURING ROLL CALL:
Ms. Kierson: Just for clarification, please, you're saying that you have
rejected the time proposal by the brothers and you are now offering...
Mayor Suarez: I can't imagine any clarification on the clearest motion that
has bean made here on this issue in about seven months, counselor. $1,100,000
is all he wants to offer.
Commissioner Plummer: And I said total.
Mayor Suarez: No, that's it, total, period, and of
complete the roll call.
All right, please
Mr. Dawkins: J.L., that's $1,500,000 and they got to pay the closing costs...
Mayor Suarez: $1,100,000.
Commissioner Plummer: No, no, no.
Commissioner Alonso: No, no, no.
Commissioner Plummer: Just the formula that is normally used. The $1,000,000
appraisal and ten percent bonus for closing, that would be $1,100,000. That's
what we use day in anti dse #.%,.t and that' a what Z said.
Mr. Baileys The review appraisal is $1,200,000, Commissioner. I just wanted
to, for information.
Ms. Kierson: $1,200,000, you don't have...
Commissioner Plummer: I'm sorry, I'm going on the numbers given to me,
$800,000 and $1,200,000, is $1,000,000 in dividing.
Mr. Dailey: We were directed by HUD to get
appraisal and it came back at $1,200+000.
Commissioner Plummer: What is the average, then?
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Mr. Pailey: It's in arbitration. $1,200#000, based on arbitration, the '
teviem appraisal.
Commissioner Plummer: Then 1 will than be beneficial and say they are offered
no more than one million one hundred...
Mr. 8tilayt $200,000.
Commissioner Plwmaar:...tvo hundred thousand. I'll go that ektent. Does the
second agree then?
Mayor Suarez: $1,200,000 is now the motion. Does the second accept that
modification. All right, we are up to $1,200,000.
Commissioner Alonso: Yes, we are generous.
Mayor Suarez: Movant and second...
Commissioner Plummer: Hey, Miller, "in nomins Petri, filis, santus."
Vice Mayor Dawkins: $1,200,000 and the right to move in 18 months.
Commissioner Plummer: Within 18 months.
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Mayor Suarez: Why did you even say anything further? This is not going to be
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(CONTINUED ROLL CALL)
Mr. De Yurra: What was his vote?
Ms. Hirai: Yes.
Mr. De Yurre : He voted -yes?:
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Ms. Rirai: Yes, sir.
Mr. De Yurre: I vote no.
COMMENTS AFTER ROLL CALL:
Mayor Suarez: All right unless anybody makes any other motion. We'll let
that'pass`though. We...
Commissioner Plummer: OK, now...
Mayor Suarez:, You have an offer of $1,200,000. I think we have been
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negotiating $1500,000`plus another $500,000 on the side, great.'.
Commissioner Plummer: Now, Mr. Mayor, when they go back with that, I think it
should be that this Commission is open to any, suggestion they would like to ,
make. That I think puts us then in the driver's seat.
Mayor Suaress We are open to any suggestions you might want to make.' You are
also open to have the door shut in our faces too of course. All right.
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Hr. Dailey: I suggest you let us 'condemn it. I euggeeted that five years
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Commissioner Plummets What is that, sir?.
Hr. Pailoys Condemnation. It's not popular, but it's accurate. The courts
will "ditermins what you pay,
14iyor uarse; Anybody want to wove to condemn the property and have the court
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Mayor Suarazt I have previously voted for that too.
Mai. Baileys We could go to a long take,
Commissioner Pluromirs It's worth considering.
Mayor Suarazt Not a quick take. Ve had a :motion, it didn't pass before, but
I think I voted favorably to.
Commissioner Plummer: A quick take?
Mayor Suarez: No, hot regular condemnation, not a quick take.
Vice Mayor Dawkiast No, we can't quick take...
Commissioner Plusamar: No, I wouldn't, no way I'd go for quick take.
Mayor Suarez: The Commission has enunciated a problem with the concept of a
quick take because the price is fixed by the court and we have to proceed to
complete the purchase...
Commissioner Plummer: Now would a regular condemnation proceeding take?
Mayor'Suarez: whether we like the price that's fixed by the court or not
and whether we are interrupted by our fellow Commissioners like Plummer, who
does it all the time.
Mr. Bailey: We already. have appraisals. We could probably do our filing. It
may take a total of maybe six months with all the paperwork and administrative
work.
Commissioner Plummer: Isn't that what the normal procedure has been in the
area that we've done in either of... we've neither settled or taken it to
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condemnation?
Mr. Bailey: All of the Park West side was negotiated. On the Overtown side,
on the four blocks paid for by UMTA, we had quick take.
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Commissioner Plummer: Ten, but that was the County did that.
Mr. Bailey: The County did it, yes. That was the County's decision.
Mayor Suarez: The County crucified us.
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any condemnations.
Commissioner Plummer: I would like to see by next Thursday, if I.may, Herb,
your pluses and minuses to the proceedings through condemnation or otherwise.'
Mr. Bailey: .Or the long take?
Commissioner Plumeoers Tan.
Mr.' Bailey: OK. What was the motion that was passed?
Comaissioner Plummer: Motion passed was that we would offer them a total cost:
not to exceed $1,200,000.
Mr. Dailey: And we will come back to this Cotmsisnion with tht...
Comissioner Plumoer: And also the provision that that must be closed
within.,: that facility Mould have to be closed within la months after that
date.
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Hr. Bailey: Oh, I'm happy.
Commissioner Plummer: No, it is not a batter of being happy, it's a matter of
your saying in so many words, that that offer you.can forget it, throw it out
the door.
Mr. Baileys That's our personal opinion. We don't know.
Commissioner Plummerr Your personal opinion you keep to yourself.
Mr. Bailey: I'll go and negotiate what you said and I'll bring you the
results back from the negotiations.
Commissioner Plummer: Thank you, sir.
14. APPOINTMENT TO MIAMI RIPER COORDINATING COMMITTEE (Reappointed was: Lou
Waldmann).
Mayor Suarez: Item 14, Miami River Coordinating Committee appointments. Who
are the candidates? What do we do? Somebody from staff, please. How many
appointments do we have? We'll go through these quickly and get to personal
appearances. Nobody knows anything) Yes, Commissioner Alonzo.
Commissioner Alonsoa I know I have one appointment coming up.
Mr. Odic: She has an appointment.
Commissioner Plummer: To what?
Mr. Odic: To the Miami River Coordinating Committee.
Commissioner Alonso: I suppose you people have two, I think.
There are three
appointments?
Mayor Suarez: We've never allocated these, I don't think
among the
Commissioners. How many do we have vacancies, Mr. Manager,
please tell us,
somebody from staff.,
Mr. Odic: Yes, one appointment.
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Mayor Suarez: One appointment.'
Commissioner Alonso: One?
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Commissioner Plummors And it's hers?
Mr. Odic: Yes.>
Commissioner Plummer: OS.
Commissioner Alonso: Then I'd like to reappoint Lou Waldman
to the board.'
Mayor Suarez: Is it on the Coordinating Committee now?
Mr. Odior- Yes, he was and he is an incumbent.
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Mayor Suarez: OK, so moved.
Commissioner Plummer: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Seconded. Any discussion? If not, please call
the roll',
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AYES: Commissioner Victor be Yurre
Commissioner Miriam Alonso
Commissioner J. L. Plummier, Jr.
Vice Mayor Miller J. Dawkins
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
WES: None.
ABSENT: None.
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47. DISCUSSION CONCERNING LOCATION OF A SOUP 'KITCHEN AT 641 W. FLAGLER
STREET (HOT MEALS PROGRAM ORGANIZED BY BROTHER HARRY - CAMILLUS HOUSE).
Mayor Suarez: Item 37.
Mr. Leonard Turner: My name is Leonard Turner, 811 West Flagler Street. I'd
like to ask Commissioner Plummer where these people that are doing these
crimes live. Are they homeless or do they live somewhere?
Commissioner Plummer: No, doctor, you and I have been friends for years and
you've pounded on my mouth for years and I'm going to tell you the truth of
the matter is no, they're not. Most of them are mobile, unfortunagely - they
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place, because to speak against the homeless is like speaking against
motherhood and Americanism, but I think all of us agree that we are sorry for
the homeless ,and are in sympathy with the homeless. However, we. have had the
ucmaless vizh us since the .beginning of time. They congregate is the large
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cities where they can find food, where they can beg and where they can steal
for their existence. The thieves, drifters, homeless created the thieves
market - called the flea market on the west bank of the Seine in Paris
hundreds of years ago. It is- a very famous homeless hangout. In the past two
or, three decades we have watched the death of downtown. Detroit. We have
watched the death of the Loop in Chicago. We have seen the degradation of -
Lower Manhattan and Brooklyn, New York. Hers.in Miami none of you will •walk
unescorted through our Bicentennial Park which is a beautiful park, -our
Bayfront Park or our Jose Marti Park which is in my neighborhood. because you -
would be afraid of mugging, panhandling or being caught in some type of a drug
reaction. Nov there is a proposal. Oh, one thing.. Around. our new
multimillion dollar City Arena, there is a whole area of slums. Now then,
there is a motion or a proposal to take part of the people that create --these
slums and when thesepeople congregate, no matter where it is or in what city,
they create -a slum are unwittingly maybe, uncaringly maybe but they do create.
a slum. Nov there is a motion to take some of the people that created: the
slum around the. Miami Arena and divide them to take them to: another part of.
the city and thereby create another slum. This proposal was instigated.or at
least aggravated by the developers of a development that knew what was there_'
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their community by splitting this slum and taking some of the people from
Camillus House and shuffling them out into some other part of the city. i-
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would quote directly. from the Miami_ Herald, January 21, 1990 the developers
said "the homeless weren't a big. selling point." The proposal was made
through the+r at""60- tn rho Solt.4 crz :.: Clrzaa Ludii. &a , seLurn and
again this is a quote "in return for several thousand dollars,the church would.
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furnish and set up a soup kitchen to feed two to three hundred daily:" Yor�.
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this th9 church would have no expense for the food or for its preparation. If
this true, if this_is true, the church is.operating a restaurant and it should
be taxed as a restaurant and licensed as a restaurant. A representative :of:
the Mayor's office walked the street with me several weeks ago a was visibly_
shocked by the filth, the vandalism and the evidence pf theft that he saw in'a
three block area, along flagler Street from South West Sth Street Avenue:to
South West Sth Avenue. He saw closed abandoned buildings, he saw window bars
and chains whsre psople are trying to minimize the L theft and the vandalise.
What's going to happen to this area that is alresdy, depr+sswed it you dumphd
two to . three hundred to five aundt ed more, hall them hos►eleb+m if i'oo like nor.
dr 4ens, into this 'area, Where will they g4 ; to the bathro=0 a:ti
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where will they go to the bathroom? Where will they get their water! Where
Will they get their wine and their beer and their crack? And I'll guarantee
toy they get wine and beer and crack. What do you think is going to happen to
the few remaining revenue producing tax paying businesses in the area? What
we, as tax paying residents in this area are asking, number one, is that the
life and rights of a community be considered as much as the right of a few,'
relative few individuals. We ask that the city continue to plan with its
development westward along Flagler Street to the west edge of downtown Miami
and we ask help in preventing the death of Flagler Street. In the past ten
years, there have been at least twenty one businesses in a three block area
that have folded. Some of them have taken their revenue and their tax dollars
to other communities. Some of them have gone bankrupt and quit. If this
kitchen is allowed to open in this area within a very short time the only
thing that would be left would be the soup kitchen and the Soldier of the
Cross Church which is surrounded by a 10 foot high fence because they don't
want the drifters on their property. We ask that the City Commission consider
all of these points and consider the plight of the poor taxpayer, thank you.
Pedro Gonzalez: I am Pedro Gonzalez my business address is...
Mayor Suarez: Wait a minute, wait a minute.
Commissiwwg ,1A!gp tx,: Let me try to maybe short circuit this cause -nobody
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knows better than I what Dr. Turner has just stated for the record and I was
out at 14th Avenue and I had to close my business because I could not stay
open because of the environment. God know the police department tried to do as
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much as they could to keep it safe in the area. We are right next to the
church and they could not and I wound up having to sell my business because I
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could not exist there, so I am a victim you might say of what has transpired..
Mr. Mayor what I son trying to say and maybe cut short, I had and as I
explaiasi tQ you earlier this morning, a very fine discussion what I felt was
with the Director of the Camillus House, Brother Rarry and he is -he" VsTesrat
and of course can speak for himself. One of the criteria which I out forth to
1.;t,L srda o: settle,nent was in fact just this location. Brother Harry
explained to me that he would try and see what he could do to relocate that
facility. Now I don't think that there is really any more that we could do
today than ask, or accept the spirit of cooperation that he will try to find a
site away from this problem area where it is. Now Brother Harry, I don't know
if you are in a position to want to say that on the record, but I think that
if you do, I that think you are going to get a lot of people as you did with —
me yesterday converted from fighting you to being in your corner. And I don't
know what else we could ask of the man who came forth and said that he would
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make every effort to try. find another location. We understand that wherever
this goes there is going to be some opposition, but my statement to the
newspaper last night vas that knowing what the East Little Havana Development
Authority has been trying to do, that I was opposed because of the fact that
it did portray, at least portray, a negative, and I don't think that was
needed in that particular area. So I think that if, if Brother•Harry will
have to speak for himself but I think that if he were to express that to you
now as he did to me yesterday, that he was willing to try and find another
location, I don't think we could ask any more than that, I think we would all
be big winners today, if he wants to say that, and Brother Harry I am not
trying to put you on the spot, but I am just saying that if you want to, say
whatever you want to say, please.
Brother Rarrys Thank you Commissioner. Can you hear me? First of all, I'm
very pleased to see the representation here from Little -Havana. I can
appreciate very much your fears your concern and all your questions and I
probably would do the same thing if T wom r- -ftmir nhn.,, ZZ-1 I
and I am rather proud that you are all here. Probably more than proud that
You are all here because it shows me that you are looking at a lot of issues
and there are some hard issues that we all have to look at so congratulations
for your turn out, I think it's admirable, very admirable. We had some very
fine meetings with the Commissioners and we are seriously looking at a°site,
as alternate site so I would like to allay that fear. By the way, Camillus
House, the entire Camillus House was never planning to move into east Little
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Havana, not by any means, not by any means. As a matter of fact we met with
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this gentleman yesterday and several of the other gentlemen and we are going
to set up a meeting tomorrow where we can sit down and discuss this whole
question and I would like your input, you may have good suggestions that are
already in the area that we could be looking at that we may not be aware of,
so I -would endorse and encourage your help to help us find another site close
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'gat hand because the people we were looking at serving are already in that
area, we had no intentions of bringing into the area anybody but we were
looking at serving the needs that are already in last Little Havana area so...
Commissioner Plummer: Just for the record, Mr.. Mayor I had suggested now you
might not find this acceptable but this was my suggestion that there were some
places that were vacant at the present time over on the river by the Salvation
Army of stores that are no longer being used and I suggested that Brother
Harry look over in that area. I think it would disturb the least amount of
people, keeping in mind, I don't care where you go, there is going to be some
opposition but I don't think that it should be and I expressed to him on
Flagler Street. I would hope that the group here today headed by Dr. Turner
and the CAMACOL could sit with Brother Harry and try to come up with a more
reasonable site something that could be accomplishing what needs to be
accomplished but not detrimental, totally detrimental to the area. Mr.
Mayor, if and I am not trying to cut any speakers off, I assume that Dr.
Turner is as he always is, was very thorough in outlining the problem but at
any time that you wish, I'd be glad to make a motion endorsing a meeting
between Brother Harry of the Camillus House, CAMACOL and Dr. Turner and
whoever else wants to attend to try to find, help him relocate out of that
immediate area, but you have got to help him find another location so if
that's a motion that is necessary I would be happy to do such or whatever also
.Ad and I am not trying to cut you off from talking but I really don't know
�+- what slat could be said because Dr. Turner was...
Mayor Suarez: Wait, wait and I am inclined to, I'm sorry Commissioner, I
don't know, I just want to add something very quickly that I think is
following along the lines of what another Commissioner mentioned in the paper
if I read it correctly, was Commissioner Alonso. I think all of us are
looking for a system that would never have a high concentration of people. I
think the f igure she used is 50 to 75. The lowest number of people that we
can feed in the facility would be the system that I think the Homeless
Coalition is heading towards, the city would like to see, and obviously the
peopla whn art rlra Ldy iu Uir.t. vicinity is what :Hakes sense. We don't like to
have people transported across the city to be fed, who are homeless and who
will then do the kinds of things that you described before. Commissioner, I
interrupted you.
Commissioner De Yurre: Yes, if I can sense a feeling of this Commission
certainly it's one that we would not like to see, that type activity where its
being proposed today. Certainly this is not the moment to deal with the issue
because there is legal proceeding that we have to go through and I want to
deal with that right now so that we can cut that procedure at least bring it
before us so that we 'can make a determination eventually. It is my
understanding that in order for the proponents of this soup line, if it's
called that, or soup line to be put into effect, they need a special permit
from the City of Miami. Is that correct?
Commissioner Alonzo: According to the memo, right?
Mr. Sergio Rodriguez: Yes Let me try to give you an answer more complete on-*
this.
Mayor Suarez: By the way, you outdid the City Clerk in the cryptic nature of
your memo, this was even more difficult to figure out what it says. I read
through it and at the end I wasn't sure if it could be done or not done but
anyhow maybe you can clarify it. The two of you are in competition for...
Mr. Rodriguez: Next time you ask mt and I will try to•hatp.
Mayor Suarez: You will clarify in person I am sure.
Mr. Rodriguez: I will help you any way I can. I gave determination which is
an administrative ruling on February 22nd that can be appealed by any party,
anybody, and the last day to appeal that determination is tomorrow which is 15
days. That appeal can be made to the Zoning Board and then ultimately to the
City Commission.
Commissioner De Yurre: Wall, the appeal is made and you have to go through
the process of appearing before the Zoning Board and eventually to the City
Commission so I would...
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Mir. Aodriguets And than to the City Commission. Let me 'finish one second,
the determination that I made if it is not appealed by tomorrow it will be an
administrative ruling that will stand and that recommendation that I made
basically established that this type of facility, in association with a
church, is not a permitted use in the commercial residential district, the CR
district. The only way this would be allowable will be by applying for a
spacial exception and then going to the Zoning Board with a possible appeal to
the City Commission and taking into consideration the possibility that this
type of facility might have an impact in the neighborhood and an effect on the
free flow of traffic on sidewalks and so on.
Commissioner De Turret So I could be clear and everybody here can be clear, I
am understanding you correctly when you are telling me, or what I am
understanding that if we do nothing at this point in time by tomorrow if
somebody hasn't step forward to challenge your determination then they cannot,
N-0-T have a soup line at that location.
Mr. Rodriguez: Unless they, anybody else appeal this tomorrow.
Commissioner De Turret Well, that.'* what I am saying, if no one appeals your
determination.
Mr. Rodriguez: The only was they could have a soup line or distribute food
for the poor in conjunction with a church activity will be by applying for
special exception and going through that whole process.
Commissioner De Yurre: And if they do appeal your determination then they
will appear before the Zoning Board and then eventually they can be brought
before the City Commission and we would make the final determination.
Mr. Rodriguez: Right, and you will make a final determination on whether the
determination that I have made if I may repeat the word, was correct or not.
Commissioner ve Turret So then by us not acting on it today, that is the
proper procedure as far as what this group here wants which is for them not to
have,a soup line.
Commissioner Plummer: Yes, but do you see Brother Harry's smiling over there?
He just...
Mayor Suarez: The status -quo is that they cannot do it at this particular'
point. That's what the Commissioner is asking and therefore by not taking any
action other than to consideration of their concerns we are preserving, the
status -quo
Commissioner Alonso Yes, but the point is, we better address this issue in
the proper content because most likely, by tomorrow this decision is going to
be appealed and then what's going to happen, so...
Commissioner De Turret Then it will come before us.
Commissioner Alonsos Exactly, so let's address the problem as it should be.
I had a very line meeting with Brother Harry and a group of people who are
very concerned about the homeless situation, also with merchants of the area
and by the way in response to some of the signs, "Where are our '
Commissioners!" Working for you, trying to find a solution to the problem. I
am sure most of the people doing here, at least I have and they want, trying
to find a solution to this problem. I think that unless we really address the
problem, we will not find a roe l en l •st +on. 'y—rror ac will appear agal . and
in 10 days or 15 days and within a month we are going to be faced with the
same problem and maybe will not be in relation with a church. It will be in
relation with who knows, a restaurant or what have you, I don't know and in
order to avoid that I think we have to face this problem. And as I sae it,
this is a problem that whenever there is something that they want to resolve,
usually people think in two areas, Overtown and Little Havana. Usually these
two areas come to mind immediately. I $uses the feeling is in these areas
people are going to take whatever, they have enough problems, therefore, who
cares! One more problem it's not going to make a difference. Well I think
that those two areas have had enough of the share that they can assume in this
community. I think that this has to be done in ways that everyone gets a
little bit of the burden. Maybe if we have a small group here and a small
group there and I'll be very pleased to see that not only the City M
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carries on a little bit of this problem because it's not only ours it belongs
to Dade County. And maybe some other people, caring people of all the
communities weight be willing to take a little bit bf the problem and not only
in Little Havana. The number that's been mentioned before for soup line that
was going to _be served in Flagler, and the solution is not to find another
place not in Flagler, but perhaps in 8th Street or in 27th Avenue or in 37th
Avenue. It's going to be a difficult problem regardless of the location. So
the point is, they been talking about 200 people. We know that the intention
was much more than that because I sent inspectors into the property day one
and there were tables in place and they had enough space to serve about 500
people. Can you imagine the situation right there, 500 people? It is
serious. Now we are facing the problem. I am sure we are not going to
receive 500. I am sure we are not going to receive 200. But I think what are
we going to do with these people? Where are we going to feed them? What is
going to be done? It's not going to be the disappearing act, to we have to
face reality. How do we do it? And maybe if we decide that it's.going to be
small numbers in different locations, I don't see why the people of Little
Havana can receive 200 people and the people in Coconut Grove cannot receive
50. I think it should be in equal terms. Maybe it should be 50 in Coconut
Grove, and 50 in Coral Gables and 50, in other areas and everyone gets a
little bit of the problem and then the situation will be resolved. A small
group and maybe if we all face reality world maybe it doesn't' have to be 50
maybe it's only 25, and we can even be successful and start resolving a
serious problem and addressing the mental problem that these individuals have,
drug addiction, mental problems and then trying to resolve the problem because
It is not only to give them food, it's to provide so many other things in
order to resolve the problem. And I very disappointed to see that it's only
the problem of the City of Miami when we see that it's according to the
regulation is the problem of Dade County. But Dade County do not face reality
and then we see that Seattle, Washington has received 10 million in a grant in
order to help the homeless but us, we have not received not even 2 million and
I wonder why. Maybe because we have not taken a stand as to say, this is a
problem of the entire community and let's face the problem and perhaps now is
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+__ ..d; �:a i.uir and I am not one to say if ti•• don't take any action,
the problem will disappear because that's not true. The problem perhaps,
according to the memo that he wrote, it will disappear today, tomorrow but it
will come back to us and maybe will not be 641 West Flagler but it will be
1415 Sth Street or it's going to be 27th Avenue or it's going to be some other
location and it's going to be exactly the same problem. No one neighborhood
can receive 200 people no one area can receive 500 people so the problem is
the same. It the area in downtown cannot'continue to sustain the number of
people, the homeless in that area because it is affecting the new
construction, well, I want you to know that the sass problem exist in other
areas of the city. We want to develop Little Havana and Overtown and Liberty
City and some other areas Allapattah and Wynwood that has been mentioned as
another location. We want all of those areas to improve as well, therefore we
have to respect the new construction in those areas so let`s think of very
small group of people, something that will be really be the people from the
area because I have to repeat myself and say as I told to Brother Harry, I
don't believe that the 200 or 500 are living in Little Havana right now. I
don't buy that idea. I think they come from other areas as well, I know that
they don't belong to Little Havana, and if even they do, they have to spread
around so a real solution could be found to the problem and I think that by
really facing the problem perhaps we will resolve it.
Commissioner Plummort Mr. Mayor, two things. Number one, I just asked the
Administration, this Commission went on record, at I think the last meeting,
to tell Dade County who is in charge of welfare that either they are going to
do the job which they are not doing today. or give us thO mn"•v for which :::a
collect from our citizens and in spite of that, if they don't, we are going to
file a lawsuit. Now, when is that 60 days up?
Mr. Odiot I notified the County Manager two days ago that he's to give us an
answer on the homeless, so I guess it would start from two days ago, the 60
days.
Commissioner Plummer: OK so in other words, if we don't get an answer that is
what w• tool is legitimate...
Mr. Odiot We will file a lawsuit.
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Cossnissioner Plummer: ... then within 60 days the lawsuit will be filed
against the County.
Mr. Odic: Yes, sir.
Mr. Fernandez: Before we file a lawsuit, we have to follow a prescribed
nsthod.
Commissioner Plummer: What is'the prescribed method? Let's don't beat around
the bush, let's do it.
Mr. Odiot Let me put on the record what I wrote him. It says,
"The Miami City Commission on February 7, 1990 passed motion 90-129
which reads as follows: 'A motion requesting Metropolitan Dade
County to come before the City Commission and demonstrate that -they
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are addressing the problem of the homeless; further stating that if
within 60 days, the County has not adequately demonstrated that
they are addressing said issue, the City of Miami will be forced to
institute a lawsuit to force the County to face and assume its
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responsibility."
Commissioner Plummer: And what is the date of that?
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Mr. 0dio: This was dated March 6th. If it is convenient for you, I will 'set
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said* time for your representative on the April 12, 1990 City Commission
agenda in order that the County can address the issue of homelessness in the
City of Miami.
Commissioner Plummer: Well, that's almost what we said. Second of all, in
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my discussions with Brother Harry yesterday, I can tell you that he was
agreeable on the so-called satellite areas of which they would feed to limit
it to a hundred. He spoke of that, I didn't offer that, if we could offer •
that. P-nd I ;uczz as a ip.&LLor of humor, 1'a like to bring up one more times
that the Biltmore Hotel in Coral Gables is just gone into receivership and I
think that would be an excellent place. We could give Coral Gables their
share. Jack Eads won't speak to me for a week, but... well, here again, I
think this group of people have demonstrated in the past that their
willingness to help. I think this time it's your willingness to help yourself
and I think that if you were to get together with Brother Harry and go and
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help him find another location, I don't 'think he would object to another
location. I will tell you that immediately I an now thinking that I'would
want you to go look in the area on the other side of the river between Flagler
Street South, because there is no residence. In that area, it's mostly
parking lots. You know what I'm talking about from Captain Tom's Fishery
South? There are absolutely no residence as a matter of fact, it's 90 percent
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if I'm not mistaken, parking lots, so that might be an area to explore. He
hat given his word that he has a willingness that he would be glad to explore'
moving and with that, I think we can accomplish smothing.
Commissioner Alonso: Ah, ah, but Co=issioner Plummer and then you are
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thinking in that area that, of course, it's true parking lots and vacant area
but very class to some areas of Little Havana. Again, the proximity is
tremendous, but my question is, how many people, how many in that location.
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everything that is downtown, hundred, what do we do with the rest of then?
Commissioner Plus r: Eacwe ms, in the settlement which he brought to my
office which Was not official but unofficial there Vern locations, f1*4
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different locations only one of them of Flaglar street alld Annrnw'�h :Mr.
little particular area, four... OK...
Co®issiomor`Do Turret .... bow many of those lour are in the City of Mimi?
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Cominsiener Plu r: They all moors, as I recall, yes, yea, that's the %hiss.
C=nissioner Do Turro: Tou see, that I have a problem with that. I think
We ti= that you know, Kendall?
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CNOislioaer Do Yurrus And Coral Gables and Hialeah.
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Commissioner Piummert Oh, I wholeheartedly agree.
Commissioner Alonsot Yes.
Vies Mayor Davkinst Key Biscayne.
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Commissioner De Turret Wall, you know it's, Key Biscayne, you know, it's.,..
Commissioner Aloneot Let's face it, when people go to downtown, they go to
their offices. When they go home they don't•want to see picture of things
that are ugly and poverty, it's ugly and homeless, it's not a fine picture to
see. So they want the problem to remain in someone else's neighborhoodand
not ours so really it's not fair and I don't want this problem to go to one
neighborhood. I want it to be divided in very small groups so as no onb will
have to suffer a serious, serious problem.
Commissioner De Turret Florida City, Homestead.
Mayor Suarez: OK, any last statements because I think the Commissioner is
about as much on the same wavelength as you could possibly be and further, we
have yes, Esteban, can you introduce all the petitions into the record by
giving them to the City Clerk? Yes, we will let you Pedro. Wait a minute,
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wait a minute. Do you want to have him introduce them or do you want to may
into the record what they contain?
Mr. Pedro Gonzalezt I'll do the presentation, let him. My name is Pedro
Gonzalez, my business address is 100 N.W. 12th Avenue and just for the record,
we don't want to be perceived as a bunch of insensitives because we do
recognize the rights and the needs that these individuals have. And as
opposed to being part of a problem, we want to be part of the solution. We
are willing to sit down with Brother Harry and the rest of the Camillus Group
to be able to reach something that's workable and acceptable to both parties.
The only thing that we want to make clear is we can not allow an operation of
that .;,.a to au in an a:aa where it will Impair the efforts that we been
incessantly for years and years working with this Commission's help in
enhancing and for the betterment of the area. That's just not acceptable.-
Commissioner Plummer: Wa agree, sir.
Commissioner Alonso: We couldn't agree more.
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Mayor Suarez: All right, thank you Pedro, thank you all of you for your
involvement. Ma'am, you, want to make half a minute statement? You say you
have.a solution to all of this and I'm going to give you thirty seconds to
state it.
Mr. Esteban Torres: OR, my name is Esteban Torres and I as a businessman from
the area and I give to you more than three thousand signatures from' the
businessmen and residents of the Little Havana, we are opposed to having
Camillus or dining room in the Little Havana area. We have enough trouble.
Thank you.
Mayor Suarez: OK Esteban, thank you for all your efforts in Little Havana.
Ma'am, last statement.
No. Olga,Marti: Good afternoon, my name Is Olga Marti sponsor-, coordinator of
the homeless in the street. Everybody knows what I vork for the homeless,
what I work In_Overtown, what I work all over. I protest for putting the Sun
Dining Room in Little Havana. I have the solution. Some Cht:rnh from Ion
Street, the name is New Hope Church. This church is the name for homeless
church. This church is coming every Sunday for this disgusting the Camillus
house, Sunday is a day of God and they never give a full Sunday and the some
protestant people, I have nothing problem for the protestant, for this is
cruel and they do not give a full Sunday. Either thess'people have license
for homeless and these people is working for the homeless every Sunday sad
these people is supposed to do bring the homeless over there for these people
collected too much money for homeless and I tell them that not only the
homeless'netd... I tell No. Miriam, they not only seed food, these people aced
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business. I appreciate too much, ao give permission to put in Little iisvada.
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When cannot sat dinner in Little Havana and dessert in Camillus or CsMalus
sst'dinmsr and Camillus set over there. This disgusting C=$llus, a thousand,.'
people, is true..
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Mayor guarazi Ma'am* where do you live? You didn't state that in the record.
Ms. Martin 'I live at 161E Pennsylvania Avenue in Miami Beach and Miami Beach
now, I have some groups of people that give food every day and now, and the
Mayor and nobody likes the homeless in Miami, and the police, everybody say
that homeless in Miami, I don't know when you are tell... put, you like..,
hah? Help me for support me for my dining room in Miami Beach. Work, sister,
work on everybody, but I saw this, I like the homeless...
Mayor Suaraz: We'll make sure that there is a center for feeding homeless in
Miami Beach also because we want to treat all of the areas, you know, fairly.
Thank you for your presentation.
Ms. Marti: No put for the homeless, help the homeless. Help for -the homeless
persons too. This is disgusting what happened at Camillus House-. Represent a
couple of people and no like me prayer inside at five fifteen. I stand there
over there, I asked for a piece of bread and don't give a piece of bread for
the homeless. This is what kind the Catholic people help you. Thank you,
God bless you.
Mayor Suarez: God bless you too. OK, last statement, sir?
Mr. Herbert W. Abramsons Herbert W. Abramson, I maintain my law offices at
634 West Flagler, immediately across the way from the Soldiers of the Cross.
Since it's been announced that there's going to be a soup kitchen there, our
neighborhood has been infiltrated with a great number of the homeless that are
anticipating this. On behalf of all of the residents and businessman in our
area, we would like to invite you to come to our area at any time of the day
and see these people. Just this morning I was panhandled by one that I have
just noticed coming into the neighborhood. As I was driving over to the
Commission at 3:10 I had the unfortunate situation of having this panhandler
that I saw running with somebody's purse and almost ran in front of my car. —
What hhb happened is and this is something,, and I'sympathize %iith brother
Harry in trying to find a location. Nobody rants it in our backyard syndrome
is present throughout no matter where you go. I had it with my drug
rehabilitation center. The problem is that we must deal with this and we must
take them away from areas that they are going to panhandle, that they are
going to wait for their meals. They are going to know at 5:00 or whenever it
is that they are going to get a meal. And what they are going to do the other
twenty four hours? They are going to hand around, they are going to
panhandle, they are going to commit crimes. So on behalf of the residents and
businessmen of Little Havana we would like to invite you to Flagler Street at
anytime that you see fit and see what it is. You can come in back of my law -
office, which is now I guess known as the Flagler Street latrine because
that's what .it is, in back of there. My clients are panhandled, they are
harassed, they are afraid to come here as at the rest of the residents and
business people. We would like to see you come down to Flagler and you will
see what we are talking about. Thank you.
Mayor Suarez: Thank you sir for your statement. Thank you all of you for -
your involvement, suggestions, etc.
48.• GRANT REQUEST BY REPRESENTATIVES OF 'SPLIT SECOND TIMING' FOR CLOSURE OF
DESIGNATED STREETS CONCERNING THE CPA 104K RUN/WALK.
Mayor Suarez; Item 38, split second timing, street closures another
sun/walk...
Unidaatitisd Speaker; Not closures, we are not closing them,
Mayor Suarez: You're not closing, what do you need from us?
Unidentified Speaker: We are requesting to you...
Mayor Suarssr The blessing, we give to you.
9nidt tilled Speaker; OK, $rest.
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Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOBS: None.
ABSENT: None.
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24. DISCUSS AND TEMPORARILY DEFER PROPOSED RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING MANAGER TO
MAKE AN OFFER AND EXECUTE AN AGREEMENT OF PURCHASE AND SALE WITH THE
BROTHERS OF THE GOOD SHEPHERD, INC. - FOR ACQUISITION OF, PROPERTY AT
700-728 AND 732-740 N.E. 1 AVENUE (CAMILLUS HOUSE).
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Mayor Suarez: Nov, is this pure coincidence that this is item 13?
Commissioner Alonso: I asked the same question.
Vice Mayor Dawkins: Where is Brother Harry?
Mayor Suarez: Let the record reflect that Roger Soman told us that Brother
Harry is doing the Lord's work, we hope... yes.
Vice Mayor Dawkins: I guess Brother Harry thought he couldn't help us, so he
stayed away.
Mayor Suarez: Where are we on this?
Commissioner Plummer: There are objectors, Mr. Mayor.
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Commissioner Alonso: And I have some.
Mayor_ Suarez: OK. Mr. Manager, why don't you make the presentation for the
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administration and then we will hear from any objectors. Is that your;
purpose, , sir, to object?
Unidentified Speaker: Yes, sir._
Mayor Suarez: OK. And sir, is that your purpose, are you objecting to this
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deal?
Unidentified Speaker: Yes sir, I'm objecting.
Mayor Suarez: All right, we know, we have two at least. Anyone else wish to _
be heard?
Commissioner Plummer: We got a third, fourth.
Mayor Suarez: I will allocate a grand total of ten minutes to all objectors, ,;;
so if you don't agree, then the maximum each, will have will be two minutes by
i y code. Otherwise, you can split the time any way you want. Herb.
' Mr. Herb Bailey: Mr. Mayor, members of the Commission, we have come back with
j whsi. we .hiesk is a ase..:..tion to the acquisizson of tan %oamiilus house lease
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and the site where they're currently located. In our discussions, they have
located a site to build that's in the warehousing district that appears to ba.,
satisfactory to everybody involved. The, amount of money:; being otfsred, Mhich.;
is very similar to what we've had in the previous contracts have been agreed
to in terms of the one point three million for the lease and the site and the
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five hundred thousand dollars which is a social service grant Car the askt-
five yearswhich is allocated for the purpose of helping Camillus House
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thoulfApa dollars, that brings the purchase price to two million dollars?
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Vice Mayor Dawkins: Right or wrong?
Commissioner Alonso: Yes.
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Coimmissioner Plummert That's part of the deal, yes.
Mr. laileyt That is a total consideration.
Commissioner Plummert There are two provisos that I have as an agreement.
The first one, any impact fats of construction cost that are now applicable
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would be deducted from the hundred thousand dollars.
.Vice Mayor Dawkins: A hundred thousand.
Commissioner Plummert Per year.
Mr. Bailey: The five hundred... yes...
Commissioner Plummert Over the five years. In other words, if they had fifty
thousand dollars worth of impact fees, it would be ten thousand dollars a year
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less spread over the five years. And the second provision is, that if in
fact, the City Commission as we know have for the past two or three years been
cut by the Feds every year, like six percent or seven percent, that they would
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take that same percentage cut as the City takes. So if the City for example
were cut ten percent next year on Federal, they would got ninety thousand. I
can't give them something I don't have and they agreed to that.
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Vice Mayor Dawkins: OK. The other thing Brother... Plummer. What happens if
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the land is contaminated?
Commissioner Alonso: That's my concern. Toxic materials.
ter. Bailey: In the last presentation...
Vice Mayor Dawkins: What if toxic material... what now?
Commissioner Alonso: If toxic materials... if we have the environmental
concerns the test has not been done. Who will pay for this? And if no, I want
it very clear at this time of the agreement.
Vice Mayor Dawkins: You know everything else, tell us.
Commissioner Plummer: You'ra asking me?
Vice Mayor Dawkins: Yes.
Mr. Bailey: You want me to answer to you want the...
Commissioner. Plummer: With my understanding and i did not talk to them in
reference,, that it was going to be split fifty, fifty. Is that not what was
the previous agreement? The study as well as what the study resolved.
Commissioner Alonso: The study, yes. The study I was told the City will pay
twenty fivt hundred. I have no problems with that.
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Mayor Suarez: And it's estimated to be fifty five thousand, is that fifty
percent?
Commissioner Alonso... But then if it comes and it's positive, we hove toxic
materials, I want it to be spelled out, they would be responsible and not the
City Of Miami. I want that to be crystal clear so we are not liable after weI
close this deal.
Mayor Suarez: I Susan you're saying five thousand, Are you saying that the,
study is five thousand, Herb, just let me clarify that because I heord fifty.
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percent...
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Commissioner Alonso: NO, the total amount is five thousand, Twenty five
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Msydr,Susret. And to twenty five huAdred is fifty percent, All right._
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commissioner Alonso: Yes.
Mr. Baileys We are paying fifty percent of .the study of the level one
testing, which -is already being conducted.
Commissioner Alonso: Excuse me, you're say a test?
Mr. Bailey: It's a level one testing, yes. We have to do a walk through
first. That is...
Commissioner Alonzo: Who did that?
Mr. Bailey: ... that is, I just sent the contract out yesterday.
Commissioner Alonso: We don't have...
Mr. Bailey: It has not been completed, but let me ask all of you a question?
Commissioner De Yurre: You say that you signed a contract yesterday?
Mr. Bailey: We've sent out, yes. We've sent out the agreement yesterday, for
the level one testing.
Mayor Suarez: Is that subject to the approval of this Commission, today? Is
that the idea?
Mr. Bailey: No, you don't have to approve it.
Mayor Suarez: Because why? It was in the Manager's discretion or what?
Mr. Bailey: It was in the Manager's discretion.
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`.'.•. 'iaaiuner 4)e rurre: A41V much was it?
Mr. Bailey: Twenty five hundred dollars.
Commissioner Alonzo: The total amount?
Commissioner Plummer: How much?
Mr. Bailey: That's our amount.
Mayor Suarez: Herb, that's a little risky...
Mr. Bailey": I would like to...
Mayor Suarez: I'm not going.. I don't presume the Commission in going to pick
a bone with the Manager on that but that's risky. - If the total.amounV is`five
thousand and we hope to agree with theta through this deal to splitit`
theoretically, it could end up being five thousand dollars if we don't reach
this agreement therefore, he is beyond his discretion.'
Mr. Bailey:' No, no. You have already agreed to'this at a previous'mesting.
This is...
Mayor Suarez: Regardless of whether we purchased the property or not.
Commissioner` Plummer:' ThAt's why I didn't discuss the issue. it was al'reaO
agreed upon.
Mr. Baileys I would like to... look, if I could answer the question, I
could...
Commissioner Alonso: No, no. Excuse me, Mr. Bailey. Commissioner:: Plummer:
said it has been agreed. We agreed to pay and I think that it's..,`I was told
that there is'a`general understanding of each member of this Commission on the
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Commissioner Alonso: ... that we are going to pay for the test. But I have
never agreed that we will pay one penny for the cleaning of the property. If
in fact, toxic material exist at the site, I don't want the City of Miami
being burdened with any amount to clean the sits, -therefore, I want this to be
done before rather than get in a legal battle after the effect, when in fact,
they will feel better, we will feel better if it's done at the right time,
now:
Mr. Baileys Can I bring you up to date first, so you...
Mayor Suarez: What is the... please, yes, Herb... let's bring... and -we may
have to hear form...
Mr. Bailey:... because we're getting... all of the concerns you have, I will
give you the chronology so you can address appropriately. At. the last
presentation we made here when Camillus House had submitted a amendment to our
original offer to them which included Camillus House as a condition of our
purchase, would guarantee that the site would be free of contamination.
Commissioner Alonso: That's why they lost the contract because the came back
with that and it was not accepted.
Mr. Bailey: No, no. I would like to finish and you're right. We never did
get to a contract. Because of their amendment...
Commissioner Alonzo: Mr. Bailey, I'm sorry. We did have a contract but when
they did not accept that part then we lost the contract. As a matter of fact,
a contract existed from all points of view of real estate. The contract did
not exist when they changed one of the clause, that it was, they did not want
to pay for the toxic materials if in fact existed and that's the point that we
are coming back and it has not been discussed because I checked with them and
that item has not been addressed and is to me. of vital importance to the Citv
of Miami because we don't even know how much it will be. So, if you address
that, if in fact exist.
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Mr. Bailey: I would like to... I'm trying to get to that. When we came back
the last time and that was one of the conditions which caused us not to have a,
valid agreement and.we had to bring it back before this Commission to get this
Commission to determine whether or not the amendment would be acceptable. And
the amendment said, they will be given a specific amount of timeforwhich to
relocate the facility, they would stop the feeding and that they would assume
no cost for the contamination removal, if.any were to be found. When we began
to discuss that, we presented, the administration presented its point of view
in terms of how we felt about the contamination. We felt that it was 'so
important to have Camillus House removed that there were ways in which the.
administration could have that cost underwritten without any cost to the City.
Then we got into a discussion about the price; and I think Commissioner
Plummer, in his discussion about the price caused the entire negotiation to.be
deferred and to come back for some other reason but at that particular time,
we were presenting and recommending the price which is still the samt_,amount,.,'
two million dollars and that the time to remove themselves. within an eighteen,
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month period of time and that the contamination would not be an obligation of
the Camillus House. Now we're back to this point and in_discussing,what we.
have in front of you today, we are still consideration the price, we are still.
consideration the point of time for which they have to move. They will stop
the feeding lines and the contamination. We are recommending that the
contamination not be an issue because we have other ways to deal with that.
Commissioner Alonsoo Which one would you tell me, without any cost to the
City of Miami?
Mr. Bailey: When we put the site out .for bid, whenever, at that.potat in
time, we don't know when it's going to be, we can include in our arrangomemt
with the developer that all cost of contamination removal be the
responsibility of the developer, not the City.
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Mayor Suarez; And there is one other one, which we seem to be forgsLLiinB, ale'
can initiate action and request that every single entity that is orrnd.
regardless, of what the deal we reach is with you in a chain eft title'�'Or uAe.,,-.
or supplies or otherwise the materrial$ over there that have cogtamiaated the
site be made to contribute under super fund legislation.
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Mr. Baileys They do not rule... they are still obligated.
Commissioner Alonso., That's right but the problem is it will be costly to the
City, we will gave to pay the fines if imposed and we will have to get after
every single owner of the property and it will end up that we will lose more
money than we will get.
Mayor Suarez., Typically, you know, we are the last purchasers, we of all
people who have had no responsibility for occasionally we do have a situation
where the past users, owners, etc. gust simply are not around to be collected
from. Chances are, we will be able to collect if in fact there is
contamination and if so far...
Mr. Baileys If there is.
Commissioner Alonso., Right. Why not address the situation at the right
time?... now.
Mr. Bailey: Well, the Camillus House...
Commissioner De Yurre: Herb, let me may something. Are we getting into and I
think that's where we're heading, into the same situation that we have, what
is it, Las Palmas or whatever?... that that's contaminated they can't build
anything there now?
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Mr. Bailey: That's the convention center with Las Palmas. We are...
Commissioner, I would like to submit to you... we have had to remove
contamination in the Park West location already. We don't think that the
level of, contamination on the Camillus House site will be any where near what
we have experienced on the site where the Arena Towers and Biscayne View is.
We don't know but we feel...
Commissioner De Yurre: Let me tell me what t do know, OK? Because you know,
I've gotten... I'm tired of this process and there's a limit to everything and
we keep coming back and you know, it's the same thing back and forth. - It's
like a tennis match. First of all, I stopped at the two million dollars, I
will not give one more penny beyond the two million dollars because I think
it's too much to begin with. And the only reason I've gone to the two million
dollars and the package that we've created, is to finally get rid of this
problem in the area, that's number one. Number two, if I've looked to anybody
to put additional monies, it's going to be the owners in the area because they
are the ones -that's going to benefit from this because they have been buying
that land for a long time, they've been hold on to it hoping for us to buy
Camillus House and automatically, their property value is going to go up,' if
not double, it's going to go close to that. If we are looking to twenty five
hundred dollars and the problem is Camillus House's problem as far as the
contamination, they should put up the five thousand dollars, they should do
their study and they will know how much contamination they have there' =And if
it's too much for them to handle then don't get into the deal with us. Novo -
what happens is, that we are committing twenty five hundred dollars to see
what, thestudysays, if they don't like it, we have no deal, we lost twenty
five hundred dollars. Unless there is a commitment that the result of this
study will be borne by the sellers which I doubt they will do that, then I
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Mayor Suarez: Well, we are beyond that.
Cnmminnioner De Yutroe Lat ►e an,to tho ownere ^.f 'M: ===: =w= ••+rt d+•I%+fin
out some dollars towards this outfit.
Mayor Suarez: I don't imagine the twenty five hundred dollars will be an
issue. 'I think weere beyond that but I have a feeling that we could gist the
twenty rive hundred dollars, if tact, I would pledge it if we had any.pshblems
getting it. Vice Mayor Dawkins.
Vice Mayor Dawkins: Mr. Bailey, what happens if we acquire the land and them
F it is determined that the land is contaminated? Who gets sued for`PJAN
demaanding that it gets made environmentally clear immodiately? Now, I heaix' .
{ you ai.sy that ws could tack on to the sale• price the cost of tleerius'the:14ad
astd aaskisg it.asf*l but what happens if AQ aaae -ls wil t ing> to buy thi "101.4"too
AISU ae° that cost of clearing it and Vat are Stuck wish► it, ws th• ►� 'auk .-
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then, sir?
Mr. Bailey: We'll clean it up.
Vice Mayor Dawkins: We'll clean it... and as Commissioner Alonso has asked,
where will the money come from?
Mr. Baileys All of the money involving those projects comes from our Overtown
Park West gust Funds through the bonds we issue, it does 'not come from the
City's general obligations funds, it does not come from the -City CD funds.
Those monies are earmarked for that purpose and we are obligated under the
statute and the redevelopment plan for all infrastructure improvements. It
doesn't matter whether it is contamination, roadways, storm sewers, utility
line removals or whatever, we are responsible for the infrastructure
improvements of the site including contamination.
potential cost of removal?
Commissioner Plummer: What is the p ,
Mr. Bailey: The last one we did, which is on Biscayne View, I think we spent
pretty close to one hundred thousand dollars and it really wasn't
contamination it was really debris, we took some tanks out of the ground .that
at one time there used to be some sort of filling station there. We don't
feel and this is just our professional opinion, that that particular site has
severe contamination.
Mayor Suarez: Anything from the Brothers of Good Shepherd, I see their
counsel getting up eagerly and I also see you, Mr. Vieth.
Mr. Harvey Vieth: My name is Harvey Vieth, I am executive director of
Camillus House. You know, we've spent a lot of time with everybody and I
appreciate that and I knew this was going to come up. I feel that the
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through the courts, would lie with us or someone before us that caused it.
Mayor Suarez: Are we not... If we went through with this deal Madam City
Attorney, we are not in any way changing that allocation responsibility, are
we?
= Ms. Linda Kearson: That's correct. Even if we agree to indemnify Camillus
House, the courts would still look to the City of Miami for that corrective
action as with the federal agencies. So, we cannot remove ourselves from the
line of liability...
Mayor Suarez: That wasn't my question...
Ms. Kearson: What?
Mayor Suarez: My question is, are we removing them from the line of liability
by?...
Ms. Kearson: Only in terms of having to pay whatever cost they may incur._ -If
rre indemnify them, if we say that we are responsible...
Mayor Suarez: Are we... isn't it proposal?
Ms. Kearson: ... as between the City and Camillus House.
Wwnr Caaray.• T rl44+111P thinly Ye were indomnjfvlwZ tSm" ill thiY j/. 4/rrrY..
Doesn't sound like it would fly if you want them to indemnify them in a
proposal. They are not asking to be indemnified in a proposal.
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Commissioner Alonso: So, why don't we include that they will be responsible
for payment if in fact, we find the contamination. Let's spell this in the
contract and include this, so they know that they will pay and thou we feel
that we don't have any kind of obligation on this matter.
Mr. Vieth: My feeling is after talking to all the Commissioners and
specifically to Commissioner De Yurre is 'that you stretched as far as you
could the first time for the two million dollars. Is s lot of reseons
certainly, why we want to move and you want to move us, I understand that.,
jut if it's ultimately our responsibility let's ;at it on the table, we take
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the responsibility and we move on, because we Can't continue and people are
starting to get irritated again. We spent last three months trying to get this thing worked out. i think we have it worked out and I think that's what
Camillus House should do. r
Mayor Suarez: So your understanding is, that if we snake the deal, the
responsibility would remain as they presently are in the law.
Mr. Vieth: That's right.
Commissioner De Yurre: Without lawsuit.
Mayor Suarez: Nall, to the extent that they are responsible for it.
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Mr. Vieth: We're responsible according to the federal law now.
Mayor Suarez: Which under the law is, probably most of the responsibility
t because they have owned it all this time or they have used it. ,
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Mr. Vieth: Right.
Commissioner De Yurre: But what I want to make clear is, that -if there is an I
issue and we're going to purchase the property at the time of the closing, or
it has to be determined how that payment has to be made, either we are going
to do the cleaning up and you give us a credit at the closing for the monies
oryouknow, something along those lines so that we can wrap this up.
Commissioner Alonzo: The test will be completed by that time, therefore, we
will know the extent of the contamination...
Vice Mayor Dawkins: Mr. Mayor, Mr. Mayor...
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Mayor Suarez: We will certainly know before the cleaning.
Commissioner Alonso: Therefore by that time, then we will have... no, what we
should do is instruct the City Attorney to include this in the contract, that
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the Camillus House will pay for this clean up and the City of Miami will not
have any kind of responsibility.
Mayor Suarez: Well, at least that the City will not...
Mr. Bailay: May I suggest something, please?
Vice .Mayor Dawkins: Mr. Vice Mayor, do you have any suggestions?
Vice Mayor.Dawkins: Yen, I have a suggestion.
Mayor Suarez: Otherwise, we'll never get out of hare.
Vice Mayor Dawkins: I'm going to move this and I would like to move it with
this proviso. Everyone in the City of Miami, all businesses, media and
everyone: has said that ,the City of Miami has not in anyway addressed > the
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Camillus House issue. I'm going to move that we go ahead and purchase this
land and all of those hypocrites out there who beat up on us about the land,
if,.it becomes necessary.to remove any contaminations, that those in the public.:
who have beat up on us, step forward with their money and help Camillus House
clean the land,
Pj+vm. .",uarez. I -._,e a the meti_n sis. iwcl.--dec C—izzi6ner AlomccIt •+wd A..
Yurre'.s reservations about the City not occurring any of the liability for the
clean up of the contamination.
Vice Mayor Dawkins: What I'm saying, I said...
mayor Suarez: I think Herb, I wish that I could understand it differently but
I can't.
Vice Mayor Dawkinst What I'm saying is, that we will not, that wo will lot
the public sector, let them step forward and put their money where there mouth
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top if they are so concerned about our not mesting the needs of solving this
problem#:so now, we're going to do ghat we have to do,
Mayor Suaret: vice Mayor, are you willing to go as far as to say that let the
responsibility for the clean. up remain as prescribed by law before the
closing?
Vida Mayor Dawkiast Yes, sir.
Mayor Suarez: All right, I'll go with that motion.
Nice Mayor Dawkinst And than, it's up to the Camillus House...
Mayor Suarez: Which means that we don't indemnify you, you don't indemnify us
but we'll certainly pursue you for the cost if by any chance any of it is
attributed to us, which I don't think it would under the law.
Commissioner De Yurret And that includes...
Commissioner Alonsot Two points of clarification, if I may. The first one, I
was told by Camillus House that as a result of our action here today, they
will not continue to work toward having the...
Mr. Vieth: Satellite.
Commissioner Alonsot ... Flagler and 6th .Street servings, no satellite
kitchens, serving or deliver, to that location and I want that for the record
that, that will not take place, that you will not be involved in any way
whatsoever in satellite kitchens anywhere in the City of Miami. Is that so?
Mr. Vieth: I agree.
Commissioner Alonso: And especially the one in Flagler, it's not going to
continue.
Mr. Vieth: I agree.
Commissioner Alonso: All right. Nov, one other item I want for clarification
on the record. I don't hear anything about Dorothy Reader. This lady owns
700 through 728 NE 1st Avenue. Have we...
Mayor Suarez: Why are we on the acquisition of that, Herb... Is that?...
Commissioner Alonsor taken into account that this lady has an interest in
this and it is to our interest to handle her case at this time...
Mayor Suaraz: And get that resolved too.
Commissioner Alonsot ... rather than waiting at a later time. I think it
will be much better for the City of Miami to address the problemnow, rather
than a time that it will be her choice.
Mayor Suarez: Where are we on that, Herb?
Mr. Bailey: Well, that's a total different issue. However, we are buying the
leasehold rights that Camillus House has with her...
Commissioner Alonsot For forty seven years.
Mayor Suarez: Oh, this is the fee simple ownership?
Mr. Bailey: how, the fee simple ownership fnr the sit• is a matter that we
have to negotiate with the property owner at another time.
Commissioner Alonsot Exactly.
Mayor Suarezi Have we got any indication from her what she is looking for?
We do have a...
Mr. Bailey: No, we haven't,
Mayor Suarez; we do have an appraisal of what that's worth, right?
Mr, Baileys We have as apprajosi,
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Mayor Suareze Almost nothing, right?
Mr. Bailey: But the issue here...
Commissioner Alonsoe Now, perhaps it's nothing, who knows.
Mayor Suaret: The more we delay, the more it'll be worth.
Commissioner Alonsos The more we delay, the costly it will get for the City.
I want it done now.
Mayor Suarez: Because the lease is beginning to... absolutely.
Mr. Bailey: But, I would just like to remind you that the issue here, which
is inclusive of real estate is a matter of the operation of Camillus House,
and once we can resolve that issue then we'll have time to resolve the land
issue and even if we don't, we have forty-two years the use of the property.
Mayor Suarez: Well, the Commission has indicated, I think Herb, that we. have
to move very quickly to obtain fee simple ownership. It has done so in .more
than one occasion and I'm frankly troubled by the fact that we don't even have
negotiations going on that. Maybe it's because you thought that until we got
the leasehold, which is a more valuable part, resolved, should move on the
other. But we really ought to get that resolved.
Mr. Bailey: We've had discussions with the property, the representatives of
property owner and they have, at that time no interest in discussing the sale
of the site.
Mayor Suarez: Have they advanced a figure at all? I mean, I'm not asking you
to Out it on the record but have they?
IMr. Bailey: No, we did not advance a figure, we know what it's worth by
Mayor Suarez: Have they asked for a figure? That's the question.
Mr. Bailey: No, they have not. They have not asked for a figure.
Mayor Suaraz: All right. Commissioner has indicated that for this to be
sealed, - signed, sealed and delivered, she is going to want to see that fully
negotiated and I'm not sure if it's a Commission's consensus but it sounds
like a...
Mr. Bailey: If.we resorted to that...
Commissioner Alonso: This is not the first time that I have brought this
item. I have presented my concerns and I don't know why this is not done. The
City, it has plenty of experience in cases like that and we know quite well
= that if we deal with this person at this time, it's going to be much
it is convenient for the City to do it now. Later, I don't know, the price
might escalate. ,
Commissioner De Yurra: Well. let me ask a couple of things as we have dealt
with this issue before. Wasn't there a price dateresined based ''on `the lease
amount that is paid, which is a nominal amount as to the value?
Mayor Suarez: Yes. We have in our own estimation of what it's worth.
Commissioner. De Turret OK. Now, based on that, we can start condemnation
proceedings which we discussed before also.
Mr. Baileys We have absoluts control on whether or not we would like to
acquire that site either through further Aegotiation.
Mayor Suarez: Well Herb, it sounds like the Commission is heading in a
direction bated on the estimates that we have which we don't have to disclose
on the record but I think all of us know, what they are roughly, To begin
negotiations forthwith and if not negotiated, begin condemnation as to that,
Mr, bailey: I 4udsretand what you're saying, Mr. Mayor and I understood
Commissioner Alma very well, but I submit to you, it we have to at this tips
•atsr, add on to the negotiations with the property owner...
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Mayor Suarez: We're not necessarily doing that... .
Mr. Bailey: Well, that's what she is saying.
Mayor Suarez: ... we're trying to solve the bigger issue but I'm saying that
the Commission also maybe as a separate motion, will instruct you to negotiate
quickly on the fee simple and if not negotiated by, let's say the 28th,
assuming that we close on the other deal, we begin condemnation... and fix the
prices, the Commissioner is saying. So it doesn't get...
Mr. Bailey: I have no...
Commissioner Alonso: Yes, I want to state for the record at a later time, I
will make a big issue if you come back with a figure that is higher than what
it's estimated at this particular time. I think that this deal with the
length of time that has been discussed, we should have addressed all the
parties involved and I have no idea why we never discussed with this lady and
finalize at the same time of this contract, in order resolve the problem of
the property and not to hear anymore about that.
Mr. Bailey: Can I correct the record, please. We have discussed at this
level and we do have correspondence from the property owner regarding their
ownership of that site.
Commissioner Alonso: May I have copies of that please? Because I've asking.
Mr. Bailey: Yes, we will.
Mayor Suarez: And Herb, you make it sound like it's the simplest thing in the
world to get that resolved and yet you know, for some reason, we're not in a
Position of imminent resolution of it as you would think we would be, given
that the more complicated and more expensive portion of this has taken us like
two years.
Commissioner Plummer: If it was so simple, why wasn't it done?
Mayor Suarez: OK. We have a motion and a second.
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Mr. Bailey: Can I get a clarification, please. I want to make sure...
Mayor Suarez: We don't have a motion on that issue, so unless somebody moves
it we're going to go with the existing motion.
Mr. Bailey: Are you moving on... you're not amending his motion? OK.
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Mayor Suarez: We are not at this point. Commissioner De Yurre.
Commissioner De Yurre: OK. I just want to make clear, when we're talking
about toxic waste removal, we're talking about asbestos or anything that's
found on the property?
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Mr. Bailey: Well, that's part of the demolition and if we... that's not
included in what I consider to be toxic waste removal from the soil -
contamination. i
Commissioner De Yurre: No, no. It isn't what I consider it to be for this
vote.
Commissioner Plummer: Hazardous.
Mayor Suarez: I want to reflect in the record Herb, that the sellers of the
leasehold interest of the property have nodded, meaning yes, they
understand... {
Mr. Vieth: We understand.
Mayor Suarez; ,., that those responsibilities
this deal, as proscribed by law.
Mr. Vieth; l agree.
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Mayor tuaret: OK.
Commissioner De Yurre: And what does the law say? That the seller at this
point in time is responsible for the removal .of all .toxic waste including
asbestos or anything found on the property?
Ms. Kearson: The law says, that any person in the chain of title is
responsible. Once we acquire the property, we are jointly and severally
liable while the owner may have been the creator of the problem, once we
acquire, we too are also responsible. That's what the lay says.
Commissioner De Yurre: OK. The bottom line. So, we are clear at getting
away from law. For my vote, it's Camillus House, the sellers that are
accepting the responsibility of the cost of any removal.
Unidentified Speaker: Yes.
Commissioner De Yurre: Ok, that's fine
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Commissioner Plummer: One hundred percent.
— Commissioner De Yurre: One hundred percent.
Mr. Bailey: They are accepting the cost...
Commissioner Alonso: For the record, yes?
Unidentified Speaker: Yes, yes. We have to anyway, if you go through the
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courts and you spend a lot of money, we spend a lot of money, we would anyway,
so, why don't we just say we will and...
Mayor Suarez: Well, you may be able to collect some from the fee simple
owner, that does not preclude you from trying to collect from other people
owner tnan the city.
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Commissioner Do Yurre: That's up to them, they can go and chase who ever they
want.
Unidentified Speaker: The City could get a new developer to do it, we
certainly wouldn't rule that out but right now, we...
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Mayor Suarez: We wouldn't either.
Mr. Bailey: Well, that goes back to the part Commissioner Alonso is bringing
up and you know, the owner, property owner as of this time, even though we are
buying the leasehold, rights of Camillus House is still responsible for any
toxic waste found on the Camillus House site. That's why I would like to
clear up the matter of getting Camillus House operations out before we deal
with the owner of the fee simple land for which Camillus House has the lease
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Commissioner Alonso: Hold it a minute. I want a legal opinion on this. If
Mrs. .Reader then will be the person responsible... if Camillus House is
telling to us, yes, today, it will mean nothing to us?
Ms. Kearson:, Mrs. Reader is not solely responsible. Mrs. Reader as a fee
simple_ -owner is also jointly responsible but Camillus House as the person
operating the facility will also be responsible. So, we're talking about Mrs.
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Reader, Camillus House and the City of Miami.
Commissioner Alonso: Not us, because we are not going to be part of that
until the responsibility.
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No. Kearson: Well, we don't... No, under the law, if we acquire the property,
then we are responsible as well.
.Commissioner Alonso: 1 see. So, the hundred percent that Commissioner
Plummer just said, is not really so, because we haven't heard the luly say,
....:yes.
Commissioner Plugger: No, it is so, because they have agrsod to itt
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Commissioner Alonso: And do they have legally, the power to talk on her
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Vito Mayor Dawkins 1 move this.
Commissioner Alonso: They will pay.
Ms. Rearson: Let the attorney speak for them, I can't speak for her.
Commissioner Alonso: They will not ask Ms. Reader to pay for anything, you
will be responsible, hundred percent for the cost of removal of any toxic
materials including asbestos.
Unidentified Speakers Yes, ma'am, but without precluding our right to look to
other people than the City of Miami to reimburse.us. i
Mayor Suarez: But it doesn't preclude their right to try to proceed against
anybody else?
Commissioner Alonso: That's fine with me, but as far as I'm concerned...
Mayor Suarez: Thank you.
Commissioner Plummer: With one proviso, you can proceed against other people
but not the City of Miami.
Mayor Suarez: Except for the City.
Unidentified Speaker: I said that.
Mr. Vieth: That's right.
Commissioner Alonso: OK.
Mayor Suarez: All right. That's in the record, we have a motion and a
second.
Vice Mayor Dawkins: Call the roll.
Commissioner Plummerr There are objectors.
Mayor Suarez: We have to...
Vice Mayor Dawkins: Oh, we've got to hear from the objectors.
Commissioner Alonso: One last comment on my part before I can vote on this
item.
Mayor Suarez: Please, please, Commissioner Alonso.
Commissioner Alonsor My concern again about the amount of money that;we have
to ;pay to Mrs. Reader is, the cost of this -deal as far as we are.concerned; wil
are saying is `two million Mhos in fact, re don't know how much Will ..be the; .
total amount because I have not been given a figure from the administration as
to how much this lady will accept. I want that to be part of the record.
Mr. Halley: Cemmiasionar, can T •,r ls.in rh.t wa novar aeR:a::_
we come to this Commission with appraisals and that establishes fair market
value, it may change from month to mouth;
Mayor Suarez: She is puttiag into the record that she didn't Set that fiSurel
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Commissioner Plummars Question, The remaining fee simple is for forty seven
Years?
Mr. 0silay: In the forty year _rams, I thlAk, I'm not asrtaiho
Commiasioner Plummer: OK. Doss that preclude us, doss that preclude us from
ledsial out that property on a basis of forty seven years?
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Mr. aaileyt No, it doesn't, its have...
Commissioner Plummer: Ws could do anything we want with it.
Mr. laileyt We could do anything we want with it for the lease, yes. ror the
pariod'oftime we are buying the lease rights.
Cowhissioner Plummert There's the new City Hall.
Commissioner Alonso: I think so.
Commissioner Plummer: We got it as part of the deal.
nice Mayor Dawkinst Call the question.
Commissioner Plummert No, you've got objectors.
- vice Mayor Dawkins: OK. Well, let's hear from he objectors.
Mr. Alan Savitz: Yes.
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Vice Mayor Dawkins: Yes, sir.
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Mr. Savitz: My name is Alan Savitz, president, Universal Home Products. And
I -would like to wait for Mayor Suarez to be off the telephone because...
Vice Mayor Dawkins: All right, anybody also want to state their concerns
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while he is waiting, would you like to state yours, sir?
Unidentified Speaker: I do.
Mr. Alan Savitz: I'll Wait until we have full attention, sir.
Vice Mayor Dawkins: You're going to wait for the Mayor. All right,,.you, come
on in,, sir.
Unidentified Speaker: I'll wait until everybody can hear me.
Vice: Mayor Dawkins: All right, then let's break for lunch and come back after
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Commissioner Alonsot Please finish... OK, fine.
Unidentified Speaker: That's not fair, we've been here since early this
morning. This is...
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Unidentified Speakers I have a business to return to.
.Commissioner Plummer: Wait a minute, who is feeding this homeless?
Mr. Savitz: All right, OK. We're on.
Mayor Suarez: I think the way we're going to have to handle this, we're going•
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to have complete presentation by the City and of course by the Brothers of the,..
Good Shepherd, subject to anything you might want to state afterwards, but
unless the Commission'wants to hear briefly from the objectors, I think the
best...
Commissioner Plummer: I think people ought to be aware of the policy. The
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last speaker at noon is the lastspeaker, the last item at nine is the last
item. So...
Mayor Suarez: And I'd like to give you the benefit of you know, the ten
minutes at least that you are entitled to and two minutes per speaker, so..,
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Mr. Savitz: OK, we appreciate that...
Mayor Suarez: The vote will be held until after we hear form you. We,d+e hdvtr
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Me. Natty Hirsis We have a motion by Vice Mayor Dawkins, we treed a second,
Mr. Mayor,
Mayor Suarez: I thought it was seconded?
Commissioner De Yurres OK. I'll second.
Mayor Suarez:: Seconded by Commissioner.
Commissioner Alonso: Could you clarify your motion again, Commissioner?
Would you read the motion?
Ms. Hirai: The motion is moving the item as stated leaving the responsibility
as it presently appears under the law.
Mayor Suarez: All responsibilities as to contamination are left* as, presently
in the law and not otherwise affected.
Commissioner Plummer: Well, but that's a part of the big motion?
Mayor Suaraz: Yes.
Commissioner Plummer: And the big motion is, that the other two items that I
had in there that I don't think have been written in yet in reference to the
development fson and the possible... if we got a reduction they got •a
reduction.
Mr. Odio: We had the letter signed yesterday.
Commissioner Plummer: OK, fine. I haven't seen it.
Ms. Kearson: We need a point in clarification though, however. As prescribed
by ]Aw means that we are liable, we want to specify in the contract...
Ms. Hirai: But they have stipulated separately as to their own responsibility
for
Ms. Kearson: OK. But that is to be included in the contract, that they would
be responsible.
_Commissioner Plummer: And they would surrender a letter accordingly that
would hold and indemnify the City from any cost.
Ms. Kearson: Right.
Mayor Suarez: I daemed his statement on the record to be precisely that and
if you can get it in the form of a letter, and Counselor, provide that to us,
so much the better. In the meantime, that is the motion before us'and we will
take the objectors right after lunch. I think we are scheduled to be back at
2: 00 p.m.
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Commissioner Plummer: Thirty. '
— Mayor Suarez: And the Commission always request for that to.be 2:30 p.m* so
we will adjourn now and come back.at 200 p.m. Thank you.
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24.1 (Continued Discussion) AUTHORIZE MANAGER TO MAKE AN OFFER AND EXECUTE AN
AGREEMENT OF PURCHASE AND SALE WITH THE BROTHERS OF THE GOOD SHEPHERD,
INC. - FOR ACQUISITION OF PROPERTY AT 700-278 AND 732-740 N.E. 1 AVENUE
(CAX:LL'uS HOUSE) - AUTHORIZE CITY ATTORNEY TO PROCEED TO C:,OSE CN
SUB.7EC= PROPERTY AFTER REVIEW - AUTHORIZE MANAGER TO EXECT:TE SOCIAL
SERV.CZ_S GRANT AGREEMENT WITH BROTHERS OF THE GOOD SHEPHERD, INC. AND 1110
ISSt*t- REVOCABLE PERMIT FOR USE OF SUBJECT PROPERTY FOR DESIGNATED i:ME
PERIOD.
Mayor Suarez: We are reconvened and had finished hearing from both the City
and the Brothers of the Good Shepherd representatives and we have a couple of
objectors. I'm going to keep you to the code mandated limit of. two minutes,
so, give us your name and address and state your objection if you would, sir.
.+' Savitz: OK. Alan Savitz, president, Universal Home Products. We are
located on the corner of 19th Street and North Miami Avenue right adjacent
across the street to the new proposed building. We object to this because of
the following reasons and what we requested is is delay, to give the people
the opportunity to speak their objection against the project because we just
heard about this, this morning, as you can see, we're here.
Mayor Suarez: You told me before in the recess what kind of business you
have, would you put it on the record? I forgot what it is.
Mr. Savitz: It's a wholesale textile type business with sheets and pillow
cases and small items that we sell, Mom and Pop shops and small department
stores and small business people that are daily coming in and out of our
business...
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Mr. Savitz: On the corner of NW 19th street and Miami Avenue.
Commissione. Plummer: That's the fire station?
Mr. Savitz: Right across the street from the fire station and right across
the street from the new proposed purchase of the property. Now..,
Commissioner Plummer: But you're on the west side of the street?
Mr. Savitz: No, the north. North side of...
Commissioner Plummer: Oh, you're between 19th and 20th?
Mr. Savitz: Yes, sir.
Commissioner Plummer: Isn't there a seat cover place up there or something on
the corner?
Mr. Savitz: No, that's the next block over. We're right next to... and we're
right across the street from Miami Fire Station. That was another thing I
wanted to bring up, that the Miami Fire Station, their trucks and fire rescue
care shoot out of there fast for rescue missions and with a lot of people
walking around the area, they could get run down, they can get hurt, they can
delay and they could bring lawsuits even against this City. And I think that
this snoula be thought of a little bit more regarding the new area of
location. My son who just graduated from .the University of Florida joined my
firm in February. This business has been there for twenty five years.' Our
business would definitely be ruined by the location of Camillus House right
adjacent to our property, right across the street. I read...
Mayor Suarez: Have you seen the Miami Rescue Mission facility right in that
vicinity?
Mr. Savitz: The Miami Rescue facility is in back and behind and more towards`
N1 2nd Avenue.
Mayon Suarez: Have you aaen it though, have you sort of driven by there and
seen how that's operated and how that's affecting or not affecting the
neighborhood?
Mir. Savitz: #dell, just yesterday someone stopped by and they said, can you
give me $4,50 to gat into the Miami Rescue Mission because I want to get a
shower and...
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Mayor Suarez: Well, that happens to me right here in front of City Hall.
Commissioner De Yurre: May I ask a question of the City Attorney? Do we have
any may over where people may purchase or not purchase property?
Ms. Kesson: No, sir. You do not.
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Commissioner De Yurre: OK. Thank you.
Mayor Suarez: That's the problem. But anyhow, anything further?
Mr. Savitz: Well, the thing is, I understood that this was all tied in so
they Mould not purchase property near their present location, that part of
your selling or buying is to make sure that they out of your area but the only
thing I want to bring up is then, they have just moved into another area in
downtown and the same problem will be there. There's also two schools in the
area, Miramar Elementary and there is also the Phyllis Wheatley, and these
little kids go walking through there, there is light to cross the street
around that area and I don't think it's conducive to have men and people
lounging around the area and it's not the fault of Camillus House, it's just
the way it is, you know the facts of life. The community will be better
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served by relocation to a more distant area and you know, we've invested over
twenty five years, a lot of money in this property and the thing is, just as
somebody stated, that the property will be worth double where they are
leaving, it will be worth half where they are going to move to. And I think'
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that there is going to be a zoning probism with restaurants, and hotels that's
similar to what they are running. They have a kitchen, they have restaurant
facilities, they have rooming facilities and, but most important I would like
you to go by there.sometime and see how good the fire station number two, they
react quickly they pull out of there fast and somebody is going to get hurt
and get run down. I think it's poor planning to make a deal where they have
to get that. Let me turn the thing over to someone else and I thank you all.
Vice Mayor Dawkins: OK. Two questions from you, sir.
Mr. Savitz: Yes.
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Vice Mayor Dawkins: How many people do you employ?
Mr. Savitz: Ten people.
Vice Mayor Dawkins: Ten people and you've been there, how long?
Mr. Savitz: Over twenty five years. This year is twenty five years... May. -
Vice Mayor Dawkins: Thank you.
Mayor Suarez: Thank you, sir.
Mr. Dan Dawson: My name is Dan Dawson, I'm a business and property , owner at
1140 North Miami Avenue. TIva boon there for t'valyl� •••*�; I'm a
generation restaurant, stars and bar equipment dealer. Basically, I just want
to state for the record that I's: for the Camillus Mouse purchase but I.'d -like
to be a little skeptical on how the funds are spent on the Camillus-Houee.
You're going to be giving these people two million dollars for this property
to hopefully alleviate the problem of the homeless in downtown Miami* but
basically, we have to look at why the homeless are in downtown Miami .and
what's to stop another organization from coming in and opening up Another¢
homeless facility and then you have to do the same thing all over.: My
building has been for sale for throe years and the neighborhood -has Sottoa"to
its gorse point in the last four or five years. I have stacks of police
reports from many different situations I've had to 4041 V*th frQM,: ift
throstoniag to just lose of property. I've also been approached by 419forent
missions to purchase my property and maybe open up it mission thor+e. dAd
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basically, even, it might be a smart move for me to open a mission and ask you
t people for a million dollars and make a quick sale and you'll get me out of
there. Basically, it's kind of a joke but the truth of the matter is, we are
Promoting the homeless downtown and there are policies •that have to change —
before we ever- talk, even start to negotiate purchasing the property from
Camillus House. We have street feedings going on, whether it be the Camillus
House or the concerned churches from distant areas, we are promoting the
people to be there and as long as this occurs, we're going to have the problem r
and we need to take a long in-depth look at what's going on. If we were to do F.
certain things along with it, say, zone out the street feeding, something for
nothing doesn't work, if you turn around and feed these people, a lot of these
people are mentally incompetent, they really need to be helped and we're just
-turning our backs on them and leaving them on the street. You feed them
today, they are going to be there tomorrow waiting for another meal and they
are going to be there as long as you keep the food coming. In the meantime,
they haven't got the help they need, they are stuck on the street and nobody
is really doing anything in-depth about it and the problem just won't go away.
You know, I was wondering basically, if you guys could tell me what you've
done towards that so along with the purchase of the Camillus House, what type
of plans that you have to make sure this doesn't occur in the future.
Mayor Suarez: Well, I'll tell how it worked in the case of Miami Rescue
Mission. We purchased their property, we helped them to raise the funds from
the private sector, they build a new facility, the new facility has beds only
for the people who are fed and has not created a problem that I am aware of in
the neighborhood. That's exactly what we hope will happen with Camillus
House.
Mr. Dawson: Oh, that's...
Mayor Suarez: People are always able.to locate a...
Mr. nawann: A va•v good brief answar
Mayor Suarez: Right.
Mr. Dawson: And it's good in the respect that it will be doing some help, but
the problem is...
Mayor Suaraz: It's a beautiful facility, I think it's run well, there are no
lines outside that I am aware of...
Mr. Dawson: I'm in agreement.
Mayor Suarez: ... Only the people who are residing there are fed, just like
my house and your house.
Mr. Dawson: I'm in agreement. If I were take a couple van loads of these
people though and bring them to your house and camp them in your front yard...
Mayor Suarez: I take that back, at my house a lot of times, we feed people
who are strangers. .
Mr. Dawson: ... or on the sidewalk, they wouldn't be there in twenty four
hours to forty eight hours. I've had to endure for twelve years and I tried
to help some of these people, I deal with the police department in great
depths, I'm trying to improve the City of Miami downtown and I try to take a
long range look at what's going on down there. Basically, seventy percent of
IGji r+�tsa,a..r as i:y.:.r t. And in GAe area, the Gver4uva Bark WeaL area, that*'*
a great deal of import/export going on in that neighborhood. ,And basically,
there's two major seaports on the east coast of the United States that people
deal with in South America and the Virgin Islands and that's Miami and New
York. Now you take into consideration the reputation that we've gained over
the last few years between the riots and people coming down here having bad
experiences in the neighborhood, driving along looking at the blight, and you
take the property depreciation, the loss of business, domestic and foreign and
we are talking about billions of dollars here, Now the City, we're going to
give two million dollars to Camillus House and we're just passing the buck.
Basically, the way I look at it, if we were to take two million dollars and
icitiiite a program of our own and take care of our own homeless, and romov0
them from this downtown area with a good well thought plan, I think it would
be batter than just living Camillus House two million dollars and allowing
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them to go off on their own and try to take care of something that's really
our responsibility to begin with. The police in the area sometimes I've had
on life or death threatening situations I've had up'to a three hour response
time. I talked to officers in the neighborhood and said, well, you know, how
many of your calls are related to the homeless from window washing to murder?
And basically, I was informed, I said, come on, what, seventy, fifty, seventy?
And they said no, it's more like ninety percent of our calls are homeless
related. 1 don't know if that's a hundred percent, you can find out from the
City of Miami in that area. Basically, as a taxpayer, I'm paying for the
police to take care of the homeless and when I need them, they're never there
for me. My father fought in World War II, he doesn't want to carry a weapon
anymore, he doesn't want to hurt anybody and yet, I can tell you a number of
times where he has almost been killed down there and I don't feel that he
should have to go through that as an American or taxpayer or a business owner
here.
Mayor Suarez: Thank you for your statement. Mr. Vice Mayor.
Vice Mayor Dawkins: How many people do you employ, sir?
Mr. Dawson: Well, right now air, we have, a few years ago we had about
fifteen people employed for us but people are afraid to frequent our area
anymore.
Vice Mayor Dawkins: As of today?
Mr. Dawson: As of today, right now, we have four people employed.
Vice Mayor Dawkins: You have four people employed?
Mr. Dawson: Yes, sir.
Vice Mayor Dawkins: All right. Now, you mad• a statement that it's our...
.Lim is yuur sia Lu►ceaL...
Mr. Dawson: Yes, sir.
Vice Mayor Dawkins: ... It is our responsibility to care for the homeless.
Explain that to me, please.
Mr. Dawson: Well sir, as active members of society and tax payers and the
people who set laws and pass bills are the responsible parties in the society.
We have to take care of people who aren't mentally capable or don't have the
drive or initiative to tike care of them, for them, because they apparently`
can't do it themselves.
Vice Mayor Dawkins: And if we as the elected off icials, seem to think that
the better way to do it is to work with an existing organization that already
has quote, unquote a plan, that's supposed to be attacking this quote, unquote
evil, you think that we are in error in not attempting to assist, this agency
to most this need.
Mt. Dawson: Well, I believe you're twisting things a bit, because...
Vice Mayor Dawkins: See, that's a matter of opinion. I think you're twisting
them a bit.
Mr. Dawson: All right, you have the right for that opinion, I have the right
for my opinion also.
Vice Mayor Dawkins: Ok. Thank you. So, let's don't got into some matters of
how we feel, you know.
Mr. Dawson: But basically, what I was saying, in answer to your question...
Vita Mayor Dawkins: 01K. Thank you.
Mr. Dawson: ... in answer to your question, I fool, if you remember the first
thing I said, I was in favor of a Camillus House purchase. I do behove
something needs to be done and rather than picking at it, if you work with it,
you'll $ee that I am not crazy. I have boon in that area for twelve years,
:eight hours a day$ I don't think I've spent more of my life anywhere +else than
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I have down there. I have two small
a have to take care of them too, and I
take you in that neighborhood...
children and a wife and a house and I
am responsible to them. If I were to
Mayor Suarez:. Where do you live, air?,.. as long as you have mentioned your
family and your kids.
Mr. Dawson: I live in Hallandale.
Mayor Suarez: All right.
Vice Mayor Dawkins: OK. Mr. Mayor.
Mr. Dawson: If I were to take you into that neighborhood that I do pay taxes
in there, my business record, licences and everything.
Mayor Suarez: You mentioned your family and your kids, and taking care of
them, that's why I wanted to know whether you lived in the City, that's all.
Mr. Dawson: Oh, no problem, I understand. But he was ready with a rebuttal.
Vice Mayor Dawkins: Let me close this Mr. Mayor by saying, that we share your
concern, OK? But we are not in my opinion, the perpetuators of this. If you
will go down to Camillus House any night, you will find people who do not live
in the area, who bring food down there every night and put the food out there.
And Miller Dawkins said, they put it out there to keep them out of their
neighborhood. OK? The people from Virginia Gardens, they bring food, the
people from Coral Gables, they come, and they only bring it so that they do
not go into their neighborhoods. Now, all we are trying to do sir, is
establish some kind of a, like you said, a mechanism that we can control this.
Now they are supposed to make sure that no people hang around outside because
if w 11 w the eo le to con regate and hang around outside, just like you
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said sir, the same people that we drove out of business around the. Camillus
!i uza, bi .1:...►;.:,s '-.412 w happen, %vill happen to you. And 1 agrea W.th yuu.
Mr. Dawson: What I'm trying to do is improve the neighborhood and the quality
of life down there for everyone concerned. I'm going to be out of there.. My
business and building are for sale, I can't wait to leave. It's a shame, I'd
like to stay there. Commissioner De Yurre, you received a plan on the Seattle
homeless plan, didn't you... a few weeks ago?
Commissioner De Yurre: We were out there and we saw how things worked. They
also put in like six million dollars out of their general fund into the
program which we don't have.
Mr. Dawson: All right now, I had mentioned a little while ago, about the
reputation of Miami being soiled basically by the way downtown appears to
people who come there from out of the country, plus our own domestic people
who live here in the state of Florida. I mean, I'm sure you are all aware of
the competition we have for tourism from Disney Land and Central Florida, it's
not worth it for people to come down here as it is any more, they can do,
everything they want in Central Florida.
Mayor Suarez: Well, eight million of them came by last year.
Vice Mayor Dawkins: And tell your f ather that you looked and talked to an
individual who also fought in the second World War. Who wont from England:
through the Anzio Beach head all the way through France, England and Africa in
the second World War and I got two guns.
Mr. Dawsons I thank you, but if you were there everyday, you probably would
have to use your guns, sir.
Mayor Suaress We don't have to get into the issue of the military service.
Mr. Dawson; Oh, he was bringing it...
Mayor Suarez: You stated your dad s, he stated his, that's it, Anything
else, sir?
Comissioner Do Yurra: I have an uncle that served with the marLaos.
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Mayor Suarez: All right.
Commissioner be Yurre: Just, for the record.
Commissioner Plummer: I was only in the salvation army.
Mt. Dawsons Basically, I wanted to say something...
Mayor Suarez: Please, please.
Mr. Dawsons ... before I left quickly, in shortness. A couple things I did,
was I got the department of transportation together with the City of Miami
police department and they're going to be working together now to keep the
people from sleeping underneath the bridges. There are a number of properties
in the area also, that once the grass reaches a certain height people go in
and they start to build up...
Mayor Suarez: The problem of the underpasses in downtown Miami and in many
other areas is just horrendous. Anything you could do to get DOT, FDOT,
County, to maintain those properties and keep them clean, it would be
magnificent and they will have the effect of creating a disincentive for the
- homeless. They don't tend to hang around if the place is all fixed up. They
have no place to lie down. They have no place to use for cover and besides
that, the downtown shouldn't look that way, and the Overtown area shouldn't
look that way with those overpasses. They are awful. And they are not our
responsibility, not our jurisdiction, no mattgr how much we try to clean them
up.
Mr. Dawson: No. I'm in agreement.
Commissioner Plummer: Let me ask the administration a question. Mr. Manager,
they just brought out about the underpasses. Cannot we go into, underneath
those underpasses and eliminate all of those shacks that are being built with
the sanitation departments
Mayor Suarez: Can we not fence them in? That's another...
Commissioner Plummer: No, no.
Mr. Dawson: I have DOT...
Mayor Suarez:
Sir, this is not directed at you.
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Commissioner
Plummer: Don't come with Miller Dawkins fencing again.
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Mr. Odio: It's
a DOT problem.
Commissioner
Plummer: But can't we go is there with sanitation and clean up
the area.
Vice Mayor Dawkins: Violating... you all are going on private property.
Mayor Suarez:
Well, but a lot of them are, a lot of the right of ways, is
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state.
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Plummer: I'm just saying to clean the property, it's ugly, it's_
horrible and
it's dirty.
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Can Kt.-ww• ....—.. frw„- =tZt. DdT to go in thcr_ ta='
do something?
Mr. Odios I
was checking because of some other reason, not because whether we
should clean
it or not. And it is...
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Dawkins: He's got all the Sanitation workers. He don't have no
porkers.
Commissioner
Plummer: There is almost thirty huts under the 395•
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know where they are, exactly where they are. There if 411a9here
on the Coral
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Mayor Suarez: You know, if they would give them to the off street authority,
they are magnificent at creating parking lots and putting nice landscaping and
fencing around it, nobody uses then, under the underpasses, but they are great
At fixing them up, make them look real good.
Commissioner Plummer, The point I was trying to make, I don't think there is
Anything in any law that says that we can't go in and clean an area.
Mayor Suarazt Absolutely, and we would get authority from...
Commissioner Plummort Now, what you clean up in that area is up to you but it
seems like to me that if you cleaned up the area. the Bicentennial Park, I
must of counted at least a dozen little lean-tos that has been built in that
place. It seem like to me that we ought to go in there from strictly a
sanitation standpoint and clean the area.
Mr. Dawson:: I am for the...
Mayor Suarez: No. Go ahead, sir. We've got to get on. We've been debating
this issue probably for the last three years.
Mr. Frank Martel: Thank you, Mayor and all you other nice people. I am Frank f
Martel, I own a piece of property at Miami Avenue and Northeast 19th Street.
I'm immediately north of the fire station. I took any old warehouse twenty-
five year ago and built it into Rots Electronic school. This is the largest
private technical school in the state of Florida. We have five hundred
students in attendance twelve months out of the year, day and night. Forty
percent of our students are young ladies today. By placing Camillus House
right across the street, it means that the parking or the bus stop there will
probably have to be eliminated, no one's going to use that spot and we will
lose our student body. Now, I came here in Miami in 1954 and established
Rots. And we have trained most of the technicians that work for the County
and Cape Canaveral, IBM and the banks, the hospitals. Now, this spot that you
nave p:npo;Lnted for Camillus House has 'tho Phyllii ghiailey School out the
back door at 18th Street and NW Miami Place. You have Rots Electronic school
right, across the street, you have the Miramar School about 600 feet east of
our,building and then Temple Israel and a very nice park on the bay. Now, I'm
part of the Omni Center development district. Hopefully someday, we will be
able to do something with the old Fincher property, the Jefferson property, a
few others, the Sears... 1
Mayor Suarers Excuse me, maybe you know the answer to this. What are the
names of the principals caf those two schools? Wheatley and Miramar.
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Mr. Martel:- They are public schools.
Mayor Suarez: What are the names of the principals? Do you remember? 4
Mr. Martel: I wouldn't know Phyllis Wheatley. I think there is a,gal by the
name of Doll, I think her name is Doll, that's the Miramar school.
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Mayor Suaress You ought to got to know them real well, since you're in that <I
area.
Mr. Martel: Well, I would always talk to the doll, you know that. Th*.
important thing is, we would like the folks in the neighborhood to help, like
to help Camillus House in solving their location problem and we have talked
-with Mr. Vieth, the executive director. What we would like is for this
Commission in structuring per++r purchase of *ems i l.!a ?is+ss�, not 0. tat _n this
specific location. The people who run Omni, Norm Raymond and all the other
folks in the neighborhood are going to be affected by this greatly, and we,`Rt
a spill over from the Rescue Mission as it is. Florida Power just put in a
new eighteen inch water lino down N.B. Miami Court for their new facility on
loth Street there, the old Charles plumbing property. So, they paid five
million dollars for a piece of property and they are about to start
construction on a facility there, and I'm sure that Florida Power would have
something that you would like to hoar about what's going to happen to their
facility there. I've worked all my adult life supposedly to build the -
technical school and pay for the building and all of its renovation* and i
tear that my pension as such, is going down the drain because 1 will not be
able to hold the school in this building. I will not be able to sell the
buildiag+ i'il have to gyve it away. I -will not be able to get a tonSat but
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pleased with this new arrangement and we support the Camillus House in their
efforts to relocate to this location. The residents have no fears and the
people who are speaking here, they have not done anything to help or to assist
the residents of the community in any form or fashion. ' You would sae that a
lot of personal self interest has been expressed and we are talking about the
entire community, so we support this wholeheartedly.
Mayor Suarez: Thank you, Don. In the...
Commissioner Plummer: Ban, just for the record. Ben, there is nothing wrong
with personal interest. I'm talking to you... when a man has his whole life
savings involved in a situation, there is nothing wrong with that. The
problem that exists, let's put the cards on top of the table. There is no
good location. OK? We all wish the problem would go away, but it's not. And
as such, when I went with these people, we searched this entire community from
the top to bottom and there was no one place that was not out going to be a
problem if that was the chosen location. The reason that I agreed with these
people on this location, as you know, I was adamant about the other. I agreed
because to the best of my knowledge on the east side, there is a fire station
and a cemetery. On the -west side was Dixie Freezers, a huge, humongous place.
On the south side basically, was the railroad tracks and really not a whole
lot, and the only area of concern that I had was to the north. To the north
meant from 19th Street to 20th Street, I guess I can say, with the hope and
desire that someday they could buy that property to expand. Now, in return,
what did we get? Number one, I have an absolute promise from them, there will
be no satellite serving centers, number one. Number two, they have assured me
that that place will be fenced in and run as the Rescue Mission had been run
and I have been there now on three occasions and I have to tell you, if there
can be a first class facility of this sort, Frank Jacobs, I take my hat off
to, who in fact, runs a first class, good operation. Next to that is the
Salvation Army, and they run a good organization. I want to tell you that if
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they don't run this Camillus House in the same fashion, shams on t em, an m _
going to be around to tell them so for at least another year and a half and I
nope more.
Mr. Benjamin: I share your views, Commissioner and we had supported,
said exactly the same thing. I didn't think I had mentioned it to you,
felt the same.
we had
but we
Mayor Suarez: Don, and you participated in the other hearings but as to
people who now are in the vicinity, the key is that they are not going to
operate soup lines. They.are not going to feed sixteen people for every one
who resides there, which is what they've been doing. They have beds for about
fifty, downtown and they are feeding as many as eight hundred people a day.
That's sixteen for every one that resides there, even on a temporary basis.
They are not going to do that. They are going to have a regular in-house,
residential facility where you of course, get fed too, in addition. And it's
a whole different way of functioning and that's the key as to what we are
trying to accomplish. We don't want to impose a problem like we have had in a
particular area of downtown or Overtown into another community, that's not the
idea. All right, thanks to everyone, Commissioner Alonzo.
Commissioner Alonzo: One last question. Funding source. It's blank.
Mr. Odio: Yes. We have the community development funds.
Commissioner Plummer: For the Commissioner's edification. Please spell out
how that's going to be paid. It is not a lump sum.
Mr. Odio: It is $500,000 on closing, and then a year later, it's $500,000 and
then the next $500,000. And then the other...
- Commissioner Plummer: No, no.
The last
five hundred comes in when
they Dave
completed the building.
Mr. Odio: Yes, yes. And then
the other
five hundred thousand, it's
a hundred
thousand a year.
Commissioner Plummer: Less the
possible
deduction.
Mr. Odio: Less the deductions
that were
mentioned
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Vice Mayor Dawkins: What is the time limit we have placed on a complete move?
Commissioner Plummer: Thirty-six months? Is it thirty-six or twenty-four?
Mr. Odio: Twenty-four.
Vice Mayor Dawkins: Make up... all right, put it in the record.
Commissioner Plummer: It's in the record.
Vice Mayor Dawkins: For the record, what is the time limit on the move?
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Ms. Kearson: It's twenty-four months or until they receive a certificate of
occupancy, whichever first occurs.
Vice Mayor Dawkins: OR. Now, let me say it differently...
Ms. Rearson: From the date of closing on the acquisition.
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Vice Mayor Dawkins: ... so we will understand what we are saying. Twenty
four months or before.
Commissioner Plummer: Correct.
Vice Mayor Dawkins: Not if, if... not no if now. If they would... because.
they could be waiting for something another eight months or ten months or
twelve months. Twenty-four months total or before.
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Ms. Kearson: Twenty four months from the date of closing, or before.
Mayor -Suarez: Right. You might want to put that wording in.
Commissioner Alonso: So, community development... and the money is available?
UK. ... ..
Commissioner Plummer: Well, excuse me. For the record, of the -five hundred
thousand paid out through social services on a yearly basis, that money is not
in the bank until we receive it in the annual allocation.
Commissioner Alonso: Hopefully, because that will be... and 'weagreedthat it
is going to be, a hundred thousand a year and if a reduction, they were willing
to take the reduction according to the amount of money that we receive. OR.
Mayor Suarez: OR. We have a motion and a second. Any further discussion
from the Commission? If not, please call the roll.
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The following resolution was introduced by Vice Mayor Dawkins, who moved
its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 90-436
A RESOLUTION WITH ATTACHMENTS, AUTHORIZING THE CITY
MANAGER TO MAKE AN OFFER AND EXECUTE AN AGREEMENT OF
THE PURCHASE AND SALE, IN SUBSTANTIALLY THE ATTACHED
FORM, WITH THE BROTHERS OF THE GOOD SHEPHERD, INC.,
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FOR THE ACQUISITION OF THE PROPERTY GENERALLY LOCATED
AT 700-728 AND 732-740 NORTHEAST FIRST AVENUE., MIAMI,
FLORIDA MORE SPECIFICALLY DESCRIBED AS (A) THE FEE
SIMPLE INTEREST IN LOTS 1, 2, 3, LESS THE NORTH 10
FEET OF LOTS 1-3 AND THE EAST 10 FEET OF LOT 1 FOR
RIGHT-OF-WAY OF BLOCK 43N A.L. KNOWLTON PLAT OF MIAMI,
AS RECORDED IN PLAT BOOK B, AT PAGE 41, OF THE PUBLIC
RECORDS OF DATE COUNTY, FLORIDA, AND (B) THE LEASEHOLD
INTEREST IN LOTS 19 AND 20, BLOCK 43N, A. L. KNOWLTON
PLAT OF MIAMI AS RECORDED IN PLAT BOOK B. AT PAGE 41,
OF THE PUBLIC RECORDS OF DATE COMM, FLORIDA, -
RESPECTIVELY, SUCH OFFER NOT TO EXCEED THE PURCHASE
PRICE OF $1.2 MILLION FOR THE FEE SIMPLE INTEREST AND
$300,000 FOR THE LEASEHOLD INTEREST; FURTHER
AUTHORIZING THE CITY ATTORNEY TO PROCEED TO CLOSE ON
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AFTER EXAMINATION OF THE ABSTRACT
AND CONFIRMATION OF OPINION OF TITLE, WITH FUNDS FOR
THE ACQUISITION OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY BEING
ALLOCATED FROM COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT
FUNDS; FURTHER AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE
A SOCIAL SERVICES GRANT AGREEMENT, IN SUBSTANTIALLY
THE ATTACHED FORM, WITH THE BROTHERS OF THE GOOD
SHEPHERD, INC., FOR AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $500,000-
WITH FUNDS THEREFOR BEING ALL A ]L .1CRQ�i . COMMUNITY ,
DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRAN' - FUNDS"; AND TO ISSUE A _
REVOCABLE PERMIT, IN SUBSTANTIALLY THE ATTACHED FORM,
TO THE BROTHERS OF THE GOOD SHEPHERD INC., FOR THE USE
OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FOR A PERIOD NOT TO EXCEED
TWENTY FOUR (24) MONTHS FROM THE CLOSING DATE OF THE
PROPERTY BEING ACQUIRED; OR UNTIL A CERTIFICATE OF
OCCUPANCY IS ISSUED FOR THE BUILDING IN VHICH THE
BROTHER OF THE GOOD SHEPHERD, INC. IS RELOCATING,
WHICHEVER IS EARLIER.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner De Yurre, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Victor De Yurre
Commissioner J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Commissioner Miriam Alonso
Vice Mayor Miller J. Dawkins
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
COMMENTS AFTER ROLL CALLS
Mayor Suarez: The Manager be advised that Commissioner Alonso's concern and
the rest of Commissioners about the fee simple property moving on that very,
very quickly, as soon as this one looks like it's going. Hate to acquire the
leasehold interest and still be stuck with the fee simple, so we can't sell
the property outright.
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August 30, 1990 `
ir. Harvey R. Vieth, Executive Director
:AMILLUS HOUSE -
lrothers of the Good Shepherd
126 N.E. 1st Avenue RE: POSSIBLE NEW LMNrICN-f.AMILLUS HOUSE
?.O.BOX 1829. (Corner NW 19 St and Miami Avenue)
4iami, Fl 33101
near .Harvey
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4e must address the MAIN PROBLEM of witty residents, nerchants, and coltImissioners previously '-
miected your proposed new location. it has nothing to do with the "Poor aril lomeless"
.)ut the certain percentage who are mentally disturbed, trespass, defecate, urinate, loiter
NA sleep wherever they want; break numerous laws; and violate the human rights of their
ieighbors. This is the problem, not the true "Poor and Homeless"1
ae applaud you and.the "Brothers of the Ck)od Shepherd" for the fine work you are doing in
Tiding the "Poor and Hw eless" . The City of Miami is not prepared at this time to -properly
,elp'these people, so,, it must be left to other caring organizations such as "CAMILUS-
>>OUSE". We too. are not insensitive to the needs of the true "Poor and Homeless", -and do..
cur part to help these people.
3n June.7th, we attended the City of Miami Commissioners Meeting where you and I were part
:)f the, workings of City Government. City Commissioners are human and can be wrong in -their
assessment of any.given situation, especially when they do not have all the facts. Such is
the case, here! I .& others requested they delaytheir $2 , Wlion vote -until: your new
location can be fully explored. We believe tFii's to be The Key Element :in the City purchase.
:)f your existing. property. With this in mind, we requested that everyone study the following
facts and look for a different location than NW 19st and Miami Avenue:
1. The PIMSE that your new location will be situated in an "Area mostly of warehouses and
few peop is Wrongt
2. Universal Home Products is across the street from your proposed new location. Wet serne
a useful _purpose. We are a -small Wholesale -Distributor of ready made Textile Products.
WO sell on a low mark-up to small independent merchants who would not patronize us if
"Camillus.;House" was across the street. .We depend upon these small store owners who,
visit our Company on a daily basis. They will cease to cone and we will have to close; ol
after 25 years at this same location!
I realize that we 9ma11 "entrepreneurs" may be the sacrificial lambs on the altar of
Progresel. Our small voice may never be heard over the loud diri of 'the big; business
interests who want you out of their present location. That is life, and I am aware of
it, but4 what aboutthe following menbers of this coomw'mity:
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3. C,ity of Miami Fire Station i2 (on Miami Avenue across the street from NW 19 St)
rtrucks ad Res" trur cs shoot out of there fast on life saving missions.
The "witerers" could not only be run over, but may also delay the rescue missions
because the firemen would be forced to be on the lookout, for "stragglers".
4. City _of� -Miami Casa (South side of Fire Station No 2) Wye are proud of that little
ty Cameteryl It JA kept up, and it has meurf fanous people buried there. It is non—
sectarian. People of all religions, raves and creeds are buried there. If you move
hare, some of your people may be sleeping there, fertilizing the ground, and desecrating
family gravesites.
5. MartY WMW visit -and work in this area: At the Board of Education Building, at a nearby
StatJone etc. One dent, with one of your people, will scare them off
Some Flealtors recently lost_ sales and leases just on the "Rumor" that you were moving
into this area.
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6. Miramar alsawtary School and a Slue are one block east of your proposed new
TERM,n. Will the city —pay for the security services that nay be needed at these
facilities, if you relocate to this area?
.7. The OvertoMm Cmuwdty will be affected:
Do park in a0jacent to your proposed new property on the Southwest side. This is
a Park whem muW youngsters go to play and have fun!
The Phyllis httieatleY Slementasy School and two C hur-es are one block away. On -
i Ct and IQ tat a easkecash u�c and a School Athletic Field exist. TtrAV are new
single family hares (one block west on Nei 1 Ave and 10 St.) One bed incident with one
of your people could send this community into an uproar.
We are on the'Nortleeastern perimeter of Overtown and have been located here for over
twenty years. Ws have seen the slow painRuI-Eirovenent of this area. It has been
a long time in conies! Unfortunately, if "Camillus House" moves to this area, the
dreams and tripes of =W will be shattered. I am surprised that CmudMioner Miller
J. OaWtins was not as vocal on this issue as Cmdesioner Miriam orreo was preventing
Cmd.Um House's new location into "Little HaVane .
On June 7th a Inaft from a Black Coalition group spoke in favor of your new, location.
Apparently, they don't live nor work in this areal Years ago it was white coalition
groups who voted in favor of proposals that would lower property values in Overto m!
Ooa d imair Vid= die Yuma stated on June 7th that "When 'Camillus House' moves out
Of the Wald s area, property values will double there." Likewise,, if you move ,
11 blocks North (to our area), property values will be cut in half.
Perhaps the black coalition group was not fully aware of the proximity of your new
location to black playgsourde, churches; schools and houses. They were merely supporting
your pcoprow for the "poor and !;cashes", which we also support.
S. waxii center act" (2 blocks East) is a popular positive $500 Million program for'
c s tubme bwatit of the people of Miami,and itwill have a good residual effect on our
part of "OVIea_" - that is if you don't move in! ! !
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9. Please note that tans of the above (2 thvru 8) are warehousest
10. You hold 'ems miami rescue Mission", at tlieir new location 2020 N.W. first Ave# to
be a model 601grad6n. however, during recent visits to the area lute at nights we
found derelicts, who probably are harmless, but who intimidate those who trust enter
the area, during the day, to earn'a living for their fattdlies.
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in conclusion, we suQport the rights of all human beings, but oppose those wino break the
Law and infringe upon the rights of others. 'Phis is not your fault, but neither can you
control it, not even with a big wall t 'Lb help one area (by navitvg out)- and to hurt another
am (by moving in) is not right) For he whoam
in the name of helping one does harm to another
has not helped atWanslThe Archdiocese of Miami should study your proposed new location. The
Poor and Morales arp human beings; they need a place wtwere they can have a sense of dignitr
but being acmes the street from a fire station with periodic wailing sirens, and to be places
in the middle of this "sensitive area" is an injustice Co all[ As an alternative solution, you should do what "Drodier Paul Jolumon" recently did in ®rowaard
He bought "an old Condo that has, 28 Apartments aid a restaurant" . No construction and
building headachesl You can move out and in fast) Your new location should be farther awaY
from downboi n, at ].east 28 blocks North, because the City Commissioners may grow tired of
paying $2 Million every few years to move you, amid may instead start passing detrimental
resolutions.
Copies of this letter will be sent to all interested parties in order to obtain a con>census
of opinion► and if by same chance you nave across the street, you can count on us to be
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Mr. Roger Boman
Little brothers of The Cood.Shophord
726 ME eat Ave.
Miami, FL 33101
Dear Mr. Bomanc
Jim Batten ie'out of town but asked as to respond to your
quart' about our position on a proposed move of Camillus Mouse to
a site on Miami Ave. between northwest 18th and iSth streets.
xnight-Ridder firmly supports the move and your continued
good work. The homeless of this aommunity,'and the community
itself, owe a great debt to the Little Brothers of the Good
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conditions recommended by the PIUMing DOD
and Camillus 8ou9e1e ResDonse
Special EYCeption for a Rescue Mission
and Transient Facilitp
Condition 1:
Restrict the manner of operation of the rescue mission and
transient facility, to allow waiting lines within the interior
courtyards only; gates have to be open 3 hours before and 3
hours after meal serving time or overnight registration.
Response's:
Agreed. Camillus House will execute the same Covenant which
the Miami Rescue Mission executed in 1988. The Covenant will
provide that there will be no waiting lines outside the
courtyard. Camillus House cannot agree to opening its gates
3 hours before and 3 hours after the meal serving time or
overnight registration. Meals will be served from 3:30 to
5:00 p.m. and Camillus House will agree to open its gates one
(1) hour before, at 2:30 p.m., and remain open for one (1)
hour after, until 6:00 p.m.
Condition 2:
Provide a 12 hour !7:00 A.M. to 7:00 P.M.) surveillance system
on N.W. Miami Court, and N.W. 18th and 19th Streets within 100
feet of the facility.
Respon a 2:
Camillus House will agree to provide twenty-four (24) hour
surveillance by providing approximately eight (8) cameras
around the building. -
Condition 3: -
Provide a system which controls the clients within the area .
bounded by N.W 1st Place on the west, N.E. 2nd Avenue on the
east, N.W./N.E. 20th Street on the north, and N.W./N.E. 17th
Street on the south. The system to be provided by the appli
cant, must be acceptable to the Law Department, Public Works'
Department, and Planning, Building and -Zoning Department. -
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Camillus House proposes the following system:
1. Twenty-four (24) hour camera surveillance.
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proximately 3*G90-S!00)# six (6) days a week.
3. Approximately Thirty-two (32) crew members and the
Brothers to provide security at all times.
4. No loitering or sleeping around the promises is
permitted.
Condition 4:
Limit to 500 clients per day, except throe (3) times a year,
in which case, 800 clients will be allowed.
Resgonse 42
Agreed. Camillus House will limit serving meals to 500 people
a day, except three (3) times a year, soo people may be
served.
Condition 3:
Provide at least two (2).off-duty police officers to assist
the park personnel in the surveillance of the park from
sunrise to sunset.
Response 3:
Camillus House cannot afford to provide two (2), off -duty
police officers. It would cost approximately $Ills, 372 a year.
Camillus House will agree to assigning its Crew, as a part of
its work program, to help keep Dorsey Park clean, as well as
the area within a one (1) block radius of the proposed site.
condition 6:
Provide a van tram or jitney service available to clients in.
the area to transport then so they can wait inside the rescue
.mission walls.
Response 68
Camillus House cannot agree to this condition. It would be
too costly and bring even more people into the area. Further,
no other rescue mission is required to do this.
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THE L17TLE BROTHERS OF THE GOOD SHEPHERD
726 N. E. 191 Avenue P.O. Box 1929 Miami, Florida 33101 • telephone: (305) 314.1069 •
INTRODUCTION:
'I.. OVERALL HOURS OF OPERATION:
Our evening check -in for our overnight guests is at 6:30
P.M. The guests arrive and are registered, and are offered the
opportunity to shower and shave and receive a clean exchange of
clothing. They arise at 5:00 A.M. an are served a light
breakfast at 5:15 A.M. By 6:00 A.M., the overnight guests have
left the area, most often to work at a labor pool (this is known
from.past experience).
The next time our doors would be opened for aervice' is at
10:00 A.M. for mail distribution. On Mondays, Wednesdays and
Fridays, showers and clothing will be available from 10:00 A.M.
to 11:30 A.M. Meal time in the new facility will.be.scheduled in
.accordance with the.local school dismissal. The overall Camillus
operation is closed right after the admittance and registration`
of our last overnight guest.
Our history shows that our guests respect and appreciate our
services. Any untoward behavior is not acceptable and is dealt
with accordingly., We feel our guests will not inhabit the Dorsey
park or disturb the area because they are appreciative of the
life- saving services we provide. ; Very seldom-; to .we have any
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problems with guests at our present facility.
II. DINING ROOM AREA:
The new Camillus House dining room facility is 4,000 square''
.feet and has seating capacity for 250 guests per. meal- seating
square feet per person) . Two rest -'rooms are. ; planned for. _ins de
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the dining room area (one male and one _female), as-wel as `nest
room' facilities within the rest of the campus complex (all is
reflected in the architectural plans).
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Guests will be permitted to enter a walled -in waiting area
30 minutes prior to the scheduled dining hour, which is one and'.
one-half hours (Monday through Fridays and over the noon hour on
Saturdays. The dining facility will be closed on Sundays). At
present, we are checking the operational hours of the
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neighborhood 'elementary school to coordinate and adjust our meal
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The corridor walkway within the courtyard area will allow
guests to line-up within the campus on'their way to the dining
room. There will never be an overflow of guests on to the city,
streets. In the event of rainy weather, guests will be offered
cover by the outdoor pavilion roof which will be within the
confines of the complex.
In order to optimize the neighborhood environmental wF
integrity -and achieve waste control, we will continue'utilixing
reusable plastic meal trays. Disposable drinking cups and
plastic utensils will be collected and disposed of prior to our
guests leaving the dining room area. Any carry -out meals will
only be served if guests bring non -disposable food storage
containers.
Camillus House has had three months experience serving 230
guests at one time as opposed to 96 we were historically serving.
In July, the dining room was enlarged to accommodate this
increase. This made it possible to reduce the serving time by
one hour each day (serving hours now are from 3:30 P.M. to 5:00'
P.M. as opposed to 2:30 P.M. to 5:00 P.M.). It immediately cut
down on the tong waiting lines and enabled us to keep a constant
flow through the meal line in the dining area. Because of the
design of the new facility, there will never be a need for guests.
to wait in lines outside the complex.
Camillus House feels it is inhumane and undignified for
people to have to wait for their meals under the public. It As
because of dire circumstances that they are even there in the
first place.
III. LIVING ENVIRONMENT:
The new Camillus campus has two proposed living
environments. Fifty-six (56) male guests will be accommodated•in
our overnight facility. This part of the campus will house•a
recreation area, ten lavatories, ten showers and seven toilets
that will access both the interior courtyard as well as the.
overnight facility.
The Camillus Crew Program is a long-term, transitional
program that will house up to 32 male residents. These members
will have access to private educational and meeting areas. They .
are involved in an intensive six month program that offers our
clients structure and an opportunity to transition "street' -life
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Crew residents become role models, and
are a stabilizing force
within the House. Each crew member
is assigned
an on -going
responsibility. They assist in the daily
upkeep of
the facility
and provide our dining and overnight
guests with
a sense of
continuity and security. They are also
involved in
surveillance.
around the perimeters of the property.
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IV. CAMILLUS HEALTH CONCERN (CHC):
At present, the CHC is opened 8:30
A.M. - 5:00
P.M., Monday
through Friday and on Tuesday and Thursday
evenings from 6:30
P.M. - 8:30 P.M. The clinic has 60-100 patient/client encounters
per day. We. have never had a problem of. massive numbers of
people waiting outside the building. In fact, on an average day,
no more than 3-4 patient/clients are waiting to be seen by staff.
The new facility will only provide a 10% expansion of the
present clinic. It will house three separate waiting areas that
will seat 35 people as compared to 17 presently accommodated. In
the new clinic the men's waiting room will have a 20-seat -
capacity. The women and children's waiting room will have a 10
seat capacity, and, the Social Services section will have a 5-
seat capacity. The 3-4 patient/clients waiting to enter each
morning will be able to safely wait within the walled -in area of
the campus until the clinic officially opens each morning.
Since.there is a constant flow of client/patients throughout _
the day, there should never be any concern with internal or
external traffic "tie-ups".
The Camillus Health Concern has been designed to provide
primary care in the.following areas:
Primary care medical, Pediatric, Obstetrics and Gynecology.
Psychological services for children, veteran services, and legal
aid are also offered. Five social workers provide case
management and intervention. The clinic serves as an -educational
site for the University of Miami, Jackson Memorial Hospital,
Barry University, Florida International University and Miami Dade
Community College. Residents and interns, nursing students and
nurse practitioners rotate through the clinic for their clinical '
practicum.
The average new patient visit takes approximately one hour
from registration to discharge. Within this time frame, the
typical patient/client flows through various components of the
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Mr. Georg* Barket offered the following Resolution and
proved its adoption.
RESOLUTION ZB 107-90
AFTER CONSIDERING THE FACTORS SET FORTH IN
SECTION 1305 OF ORDINANCE 11000, AS AMENDED,
THE ZONING BOARD GRANTED A SPECIAL EXCEPTION
FROM ORDINANCE 110009 AS AMENDED, THE ZONING
ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, ARTICLE 4;
SECTION 401, I INDUSTRIAL AND C-2 LIBERAL
COMMERCIAL, CONDITIONAL PRINCIPAL USES (2) TO
ALLOW CONSTRUCTION AND OPERATION OF A RESCUE
MISSION AND TRANSIENT FACILITY FOR THE.
PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1801 NW MIAMI COURT, ALSO
DESCRIBED AS ALL OF BLOCK 21 LYING W OF FEC
R-O-W, JOHNSON AND WADDELL'S ADDITION TO THE
CITY OF MIAMI (8-53) P.R.D.C. ALSO TRACT 19A,
BLOCK 21, REPLAT OF JOHNSON AND WADDELL'S
ADDITION (50-15) P.R.D.C. AS PER PLANS AND
LETTER FROM APPLICANT ON FILE; ZONED I
INDUSTRIAL SUBJECT TO RESTRICTING THE MANNER
OF OPERATION OF THE RESCUE MISSION AND
TRANSIENT FACILITY TO ALLOW WAITING LINES
WITHIN THE INTERIOR COURTYARDS ONLY; GATES
HAVE TO BE OPEN 1 HOUR BEFORE AND 1 HOUR
AFTER MEAL SERVING TIME; A 12 HOUR
SURVEILLANCE SYSTEM ON NW MIAMI COURT, AND NW
18TH AND 19TH STREETS WITHIN 100 FEET OF THE
FACILITY; TWENTY-FOUR (24) HOUR CAMERA'
SURVEILLANCE; ONE OFF -DUTY POLICE OFFICER
DURING MEAL HOURS (APPROXIMATELY 2:3 0 PM -
6:00 PM) SIX (6) DAYS A WEEK; APPROXIMATELY
THIRTY-TWO (32) CREW MEMBERS AND THE BROTHERS
TO PROVIDE SECURITY AT ALL TIMES; NO
LOITERING OR SLEEPING AROUND THE PREMISES IS
PERMITTED; LIMITED TO 500 CLIENTS PER DAY,
EXCEPT THREE (3) TIMES A YEAR, IN WHICH CASE
800 CLIENTS WILL BE ALLOWED; CAMILLLUS HOUSE
WILL ASSIGN CREW, AS PART OF ITS WORK
PROGRAM, TO. HELP KEEP DORSEY PARK CLEAN, AS
WELL AS THE AREA WITHIN A ONE (1) BLOCK
RADIUS OF THE PROPOSED SITE WITHHOLDING OF
THE VAN TRAM OR JITNEY SEIVICE BEING MADE
AVAILABLE TO CLIENTS IN THE AREA UNTIL THE
ITEM IS RETURNED FOR COMPLETE REVIEW BY THESE
CONDITIONS ONE YEAR FROM THE DATE OF ISSUANCE
OF THE CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY. THIS
SPECIAL EXCEPTION HAS A TIME LIMITATION OF
TWELVE MONTHS IN WHICH A BUILDING PERMIT MUST
BE OBTAINED.
Upon being seconded by Mr. George Sands the motion was
passed and adopted by the following vote. -
AYES: Ms. Morales and Basila
Messrs. Moran-Ribeaux, Barket,
Luaces and Sands
NAYES: Messr. Alonso-Poch
ABSENT: Messr. Milian
Ms. Fox: Motion carries 6 to 1.
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