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MINUTES OF REGULAR MEETING
APRIL 11, 1901
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ITEM SUBJECT LEGISLATION PAGE
NO. NO.
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I PERSONAL APPEARANCE: MRS. NANCY DAWKINS DISCUSSION 1-3
INTRODUCES: (a) WINNERS OF THE THEODORE 4/11/91
K. GIBSON ORATORICAL CONTEST, AND (b)
P09T GLORIA GIGI WATSON,
i. PRESENTATIONS: DISCUSSION 3-4
(A) 100TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE BARNACLE: 4/11/91
THE BARNACLE SOCIETY.
(B) MOST OUTSTANDING OFFICERS OF THE
MONTH (MARCH)i THOMAS BRAGA AND WILLIAM
GOLDING.
3. CONSENT AGENDA DISCUSSION 4
4/11/91
3.1 ACCEPT BID: ALAN DEUTSCH ASSOCIATES, R 91-252 5
INC., FOR FURNISHING AND INSTALLATION 4/11/91
OF STAGE CURTAINS AT MANUEL ARTIME
PERFORMING ARTS CENTER (Project
333083).
3.2 ACCEPT BID: COMMERCIAL OFFICE R 91-253 5
FURNITURE, FOR FURNISHING FOUR 4/11/91 .-d
FIREPROOF FILE CABINETS FOR POLICE
DEPARTMENT.
.3.3 AUTHORIZE. PAYMENT OF FILING FEE R 91-254 5
($351000) TO SOUTH FLORIDA REGIONAL 4/11/91
PLANNING COUNCIL, FOR APPLICATION FOR
DEVELOPMENT; APPROVAL FOR INCREMENT II
OF 'SOUTHEAST OVERTOWN PARK WEST
DEVELOPMENT OF REGIONAL IMPACT (DRI)
(Project.689001).
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3.4 -255
CORRECT SCRIVENERS` ERROR AMEND 90 R 91 6
0134MODIFY LEASE AGREEMENT, WITH 4/11/91
METROPOLITAN DADE'COUNTY TO PROVIDE FOR
USE - OF LARGER PORTION OF HENDERSON
PARK FOR CONSTRUCTION OF PUBLIC
HEALTH CLINIC.
3.5 APPROVE, :IN PRINCIPLE, DESIGNATION OF R 91-256 6
URBAN LEAGUE OF -GREATER MIAMI, INC., AS 4/11/91 rc
SPONSOR TO'UNDERTAKE DEVELOPMENT OF LOW
AND.:'., MODERATE. INC
OME RENTAL HOUSING
PROJECT ON:, CITYo-OWNED HIGHLAND PARK
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SCHOOL SITE RESCIND,.PRIOR -COMMISSION
ACTIONS, WHICH GRANTED DEVELOPMENT
RIGHTS TO CIRCA LTD. THE BARNESS
ORGANIZATION AND SENIOR CITIZENS IN
ACTION NORTH, INC. (SCAN).
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3.12
GRANT REQUEST BY MUSCULAR DYSTROPHY R 91-237
ASSOCIATION FOR, CLOSURE OF DESIGNATED 4/11/91
STREETS AND ESTABLISHMENT OF AREA
PROHIBITED TO RETAIL PEDDLERS
CONCERNING ANNUAL COCONUT GROVE BED
RACE AND PAJAMA SR RUN.
GRANT REQUEST BY CURE AIDS NOW FOR R 91-258
CLOSURE OF DESIGNATED STREETS 4/11/91
CONCERNING YOUTH FOR LIFE BICYCLE RACE.
6-7
7
GRANT REQUEST BY RENOVACION CARISMATICA
R 91-259 7
CATOLICA HISPANA FOR PARTIAL USE OF
4/11/91
DESIGNATED STREETS DURING THEIR
PROCESSION.
GRANT REQUEST BY CITY OF MIAMI
R 91-260 7
COMMITTEE ON BEAUTIFICATION AND
4/11/91
ENVIRONMENT FOR CLOSURE OF DESIGNATED
STREETS CONCERNING THE CLEAN UP, FIX
UP, PAINT UP PARADE.
GRANT REQUEST BY THE GREATER MIAMI
R 91-261 8
RUNNING ASSOCIATION FOR CLOSURE OF
4/11/91
DESIGNATED STREETS CONCERNING THE
AMERICAN BANKERS CORPORATE RUN, A 3.5
MILE RUNNING EVENT (See label 10).
ACCEPT MODIFIED PLAT: DEGARMO ESTATES.
R 91-262 8
4/11/91
CLAIM SETTLEMENT: PABLO GUERRA
R 91-263 8
($35,000).
4/11/91
3.13 AUTHORIZE CITY ATTORNEY TO ENGAGE R 91-264 9
HOLLAND AND KNIGHT ($5,000) - TO 4/11/91
PROVIDE FORMAL WRITTEN BOND COUNSEL
OPINION ON WHETHER DEPARTMENT OF OFF-
STREET PARKINGMAYCONTRIBUTE FUNDS FOR
INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS NOT
DIRECTLY RELATED TO PROPOSED COCONUT
GROVE`_:PLAYHOUSE PARKING GARAGE (See
label 7):
4., '(A) EMERGENCY ORDINANCE: AMEND 10782 - ORDINANCE 9-11
INCREASE TOTAL APPROPRIATION TO CAPITAL 10864
PROJECT: SOUTHEAST OVERTOWN_/ PARK WEST R 91-265
PHASE II (Project 322057) BY $36,002, 4/11/91 t
FROM U.S. DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND
URBAN DEVELOPMENT SECTION, 108LOAN
PROCEEDS (TOTAL PROJECT APPROPRIATION
$2;755,702).
(B),EXECUTE PURCHASE AGREEMENT WITH
THE. ESTATE OF:.WILLIAM PATTERSON, SR.,
FOR: PROPERTY AT: (a) 235_ N.W. 13
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STREET,. AND (b) ,245 N.W. 12 STREET
a FUNDS. TO BE USED FROM SECTION 108 LOAN
r PROCEEDS FOR DEVELOPMENT OF SOUTHEAST`
OVERT.OWN`; / PARK WEST REDEVELOPMENT
PROJECT.
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AUTHORIZE CITY ATTORNEY TO ASSIST IN
R 91-266 11-13
OBTAINING 3-DAY LIQUOR PERMIT FOR
4/11/91 -
FLORIDA INTERNATIONAL RESTAURANT AND
HOTEL EXPOSITION, INC.: (a) TO DISPLAY
BY MANUFACTURERS / DISTRIBUTORS
PRODUCTS LICENSED UNDER STATE BEVERAGE
LAW, AND (b) TO ALLOW CONSUMPTION OF
SUC21 BEVERAGES ON PREMISES OF COCONUT
GROVE CONVENTION CENTER.
w 6. (A) DISCUSS AND WITHDRAW PROPOSED DISCUSSION 13-15
x' RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING ACCEPTANCE OF 25 4/11/91
DEEDS OF DEDICATION FOR HIGHWAY
PURPOSES.
(B) INSTRUCT ADMINISTRATION TO PROPOSE
LEGISLATION TO LIMIT THE TAKING OF LAND
FROM PROPERTY OWNERS ONLY ON INSTANCES
WHERE THEIR PROPERTY IMPACT THE CITY'S
PLANS FOR EXPANSION.
i. (Continued Discussion) BRIEF COMMENTS DISCUSSION 15
BY COMMISSIONER DAWKINS VOICING CONCERN 4/11;91
ABOUT THE NUMBER OF LEGAL OPINION _
CONTRACTS GOING TO THE LARGER LAW FIRMS
(See label 3.13).
S. APPROVE CODESIGNATION OF S.W. 1ST R 91-267 15-16
AVENUE BETWEEN S.W. 8TH AND 13TH 4/11/91
STREETS AS: KAGOSHIMA WAY, IN
RECOGNITION OF MIAMI'S SISTER CITY OF
KAGOSHIMA, JAPAN.
9. DISCUSS AND TEMPORARILY TABLE PROPOSED DISCUSSION 16-17
RESOLUTION URGING SUPPORT FOR THE 4/11/91
CREATION OF A DEPARTMENT OF ELDERLY
AFFAIRS AS THE STATES ADMINISTRATIVE
UNIT ON AGING FOR FLORIDA (See label
53).
10. (Continued Discussion) GREATER MIAMI DISCUSSION 18
RUNNING ASSOCIATION NOTIFIES COMMISSION 4/11/91
OF 'NAME CHANGE OF THEIR EVENT TO:
AMERICAN BANKERS CORPORATE RUN
(FORMERLY CALLED MANUFACTURERS BANKERS
CORPORATE RUN)(See label`3.10).
11. DISCUSSION CONCERNING PREPAID LEGAL DISCUSSION 18-24
SERVICES FOR CITY EMPLOYEES; ALLOW 4/11/91
EXISTING GROUPS TO OPERATE UNTIL AN RFP
IS 'PREPARED.
- 12. BRIEF COMMENTS BY COMMISSIONER ALONSO DISCUSSION 24-30
CONCERNING CLARIFICATION OF EMPLOY:ih.NT 4/11/91
r STATUS OF LIVIA GARCIA, THE CITY'S
Ps, HOMELESS' PROJECT ' COORDINATOR (Note:
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This item was tabled until the
afternoon session, but was ultimately
not taken`up.again.)
13. PERSONAL APPEARANCE: BISHOP CALVIN 0. DISCUSSION 31-32
SCHOFIELD, JR." CONCERNING INCLUSION OF 4/11/91
EPISCOPAL COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT LOAN
FUND, ''INC'', IS FUNDING REQUEST IN MINI-
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DISCUSS AND TEMPORARILY 'FABLE PROPOSED
DISCUSSION
32-41
a
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING CLAIM
4/11/91
SETTLEMENTS TO THE ESTATES OF: (a)
ALLAN BLANCHARD ($500,000), AND (b)
CLEMENT ANTHONY LLOYD ($500,000) (See
label 25).
IS.
EMERGENCY ORDINANCEi AMEND 10021,
ORDINANCE
42-44
WHICH ESTABLISHED INITIAL RESOURCES AND
10865
APPROPRIATIONS FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT
4/11/91
TRUST FUND - PROVIDE FOR INCREASE OF
.$370jOOO AS RESULT OF ADDITIONAL MONIES
DEPOSITED DUE TO SUCCESSFUL FORFEITURE
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ACTIONS.
16.
SECOND READING ORDINANCE: AMEND 10782
ORDINANCE
44
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[CIP1 - INCREASE APPROPRIATION FOR: (a)
GRAPELAND STORM SEWERS - PHASE I,
10866
(Project 352188 - $500,000), (b)
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GRAPELAND STORM SEWER - PHASE II,
4/11/91
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Project 352275 - $1.0 MILLION) - ALL
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INCREASES FORM STORM SEWER GENERAL
OBLIGATION BOND FUNDS.
17.
(A) SECOND READING ORDINANCE: ACCEPT
ORDINANCE
45-46
GRANT ($85,261) FROM DADE COUNTY SCHOOL
10867
BOARD - _ESTABLISH NEW SPECIAL REVENUE
DISCUSSION
FUNDS SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICER PROGRAM.
4/11/91
(B),VICE MAYOR PLUMMER REITERATES HIS
CONCERNS OVER WASTEFUL AND
INAPPROPRIATE USE OF SWORN POLICE
OFFICERS AS SCHOOL CROSSING GUARDS.
18. (A) RECONSIDER 10841, WHICH HAD M 91-268 47-48
AUTHORIZED ERECTION OF FENCE ACROSS ORDINANCE
NATOMA STREET, TA-LU-GA DRIVE AND 10868
ALATKA STREET AT INTERSECTION WITH 4/11/91
SOUTH DIXIE HIGHWAY. (Note
Immediately thereafter Commission
introduced certain modifications and
readopted the ordinance as 10868.)
,(B) SECOND READING_ ORDINANCE: AMEND
CODE,SECTION 54-17 - ERECT FENCE ACROSS
NATOMA STREET, TA-LU-GA DRIVE AND
ALATKA STREET AT INTERSECTION WITH
SOUTH DIXIE HIGHWAY - PROVIDE, AS
k' ALTERNATIVE MEASURE, THAT A WALL MAY BE
F CONSTRUCTEDNit_ BY THE CITY, SUBJECT TO .TFDr
CONDITION THAT. CONSTRUCTION SHALL NOT
COMMENCE UNTIL NEIGHBORS HAVE PLACED
NECESSARY FUNDS ON DEPOSIT WITH THE
{ CITY BY JULY 4, 1991.
* 19. DISCUSS. AND CONTINUE DISCUSSION 49-51
CONSZDERAITON OF PROPOSER SEC
OND OND 4/11/91
READING., ,ORDINANCE AMENDING CODE
SRCTION. 50-2, PROVIDING FOR
„t ENLARGED BOUNDARIES OF PROTECTED
"RESTRICTED ANCHORAGE AREAS
Fyn WITHIN DINNER KEY MARINA YACHT
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't AREA BASIN AND BAYFRONT
PROHIBITIVE ANCHORAGE AREA
(MIAMARINA BAYFRONT PROHIBITED
ANCHORAGE AREA) (Continued to
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ZQ. (A) DISCUSSION CONCERNING- STREET ORDINANCE 51-71 '
i V,sx0 ,$ . REQUEST CDARMCATION FROM 10009
' ADN NIMATION . CONCERNING VENDOR AREA M 91-269
ASSIGNMENTS IN GENERAL, 4/11/91
(B) EMERGENCY ORDINANCE: AMEND CODE
CHAPTER 39 (SIDEWALK AND STREET
VENDING) - PROHIBIT OPEN FLAME COOKING
CITYWIDE.
(C) DEFER PROPOSED FIRST READING
ORDINANCE CONCERNING CODE CHAPTER 39
(SIDEWALK AND STREET VENDING): (a)
CLARIFYING INTENT AND ESTABLISHING NEW
MIAMI ARENA SPECIAL VENDING DISTRICT,
AND (b) ADDING NEW SECTION 39-17.4:
LIMITATIONS WITHIN MIAMI AREA SPECIAL
VENDING DISTRICT (Defer to May
Meeting).
21. OPEN BIDS! CONSTRUCTION OF DOWNTOWN M 91-270 71-72
HIGHWAY IMPROVEMENT PHASE It BID B (B- 4/11/91
4521) (CIP 341115).
22. (A) APPROVE, IN. PRINCIPLE, PROCESS FOR R 91-271 72-79
RETAINING THE HISTORIC CHAILLE BLOCK R 91-272
ARCADES (401-445 N. MIAMI AVENUE). 4/11/91
(B) APPROVE, IN PRINCIPLE, PROCESS
INVOLVING REPLATTING WHICH WOULD ALLOW
A -SECURITY BRIDGE TO BE CONSTRUCTED
CONNECTING METROPOLITAN DETENTION
CENTER AND FEDERAL COURTHOUSE (301 N.
MIAMI AVENUE). _
23. DISCUSSAND TEMPORARILY TABLE PROPOSED DISCUSSION 79-80
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING EXECUTION OF 4/11/91
AGREEMENT WITH CODEC,' INC., CONCERNING
DEVELOPMENT OF TOWNHOME PROJECT (150
UNITS) ON MELROSE NURSERY SITE
(AFFORDABLE HOUSING) (See label 29).
24. FIRST READING' ORDINANCE: CREATE NEW ORDINANCE 80-87
CODE'` CHAPTER 45.5: PUBLIC NUISANCE - FIRST READING
PROVIDE FOR CREATION OF NUISANCE 4/11/91
ABATEMENT BOARD; FILING AND HEARING OF
COMPLAINTS AGAINST' BUILDINGS, PLACES OR
PREMISES``: ALLEGED`: TO BE A PUBLIC
NUISANCE; PROCEDURE FOR NUISANCE
ABATEMENT BOARD HEARINGS, INCLUDING
n PRESENTATION OF EVIDENCE REGARDING
.' CRIME RELATED : ACTIVITY / ANNOYING
CONDUCT ON PREMISES LOCATED IN MIAMI'-
PROVIDE FOR ENFORCEMENT PROCEDURES AND
PENALTIES; etc.
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25. (Continued Discussion) CLAIM R 91-275 87-101'
SETTLEMENTS: .ESTATES OF (a) 1CLEMENT 4/11/91'
ANTHONY LLOYD ($5001000), AND (b) ALLAN
BLANCHARD ($500,000) (SEE. LABEL 14).
r26. APPROVE, IN PRINCIPLE SELECTION OF R 91-276 102-108
s BAYSIDE :SEAFOOD RESTAURANT, INC., AND 4/11/91
a 'VIRGINIA KEY -_ASSOCIATES INC., AS:
Y
w, SUCCESSFUL. PROPOSERS. -FOR THE. UNIFIED
DEVELOPMENT OF VIRGINIA KEY BASIN;
PROPERTY.
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27.
(A) DISCUSSION CONCERNING PROPOSED
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING SUBMISSION OF
APPROVED GRANT PROGRAM FINAL STATEMENT
TO U.S. DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND URBAN
DEVELOPMENT (HUD), SEEKING $12,613,000
FOR CITY'S PROPOSED COMMUNITY
DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM 1991-1992. (See
label 32).
(B) ACCEPT STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS TO
APPROVE SOCIAL SERVICE PROGRAMS (with
provisos).
(C) REFER REGIS HOUSE FUNDING REQUEST
TO ADMINISTRATION FOR POSSIBLE FUNDING
THROUGH LAW ENFORCEMENT TRUST FUND.
(D) FIRST READING ORDINANCE: ESTABLISH
NEW SPECIAL REVENUE FUND: COMMUNITY
DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT (SEVENTEENTH
YEAR) APPROPRIATE $12,613,000 FROM
DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND URBAN
DEVELOPMENT (HUD) GRANT AWARD, AND
$1,400,000 FROM COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT
BLOCK GRANT PROGRAM INCOME (SEVENTEENTH
YEAR) (TOTAL $14,013,000).
DISCUSSION
M 91-277
M 91-278
ORDINANCE
FIRST READING
4/11/91
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28. DISCUSSION° CONCERNING PROPOSED M 91-279 180-201
ACQUISITION OF PROPERTY WITHIN LITTLE 4/11/91
HAVANA COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT TARGET
AREA AND LATIN QUARTER FOR A PROPOSED
SPECIALTY CENTER - INSTRUCT MANAGER TO
MAKE AN OFFER TO THE OWNERS OF FORMER
SHEEHAN BUICK CENTER TO PURCHASE
PROPERTY (NOT TO EXCEED $1.7 MILLION)
29. (Continued Discussion) DEFER PROPOSED M 91-280 201-212
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING EXECUTION OF 4/11/91
AGREEMENT WITH CODEC, 'INC., CONCERNING —
DEVELOPMENT OF TOWNHOME PROJECT (150
UNITS) ON MELROSE NURSERY SITE
(AFFORDABLE HOUSING) - INSTRUCT CITY
ATTORNEY TO BEGIN PROCEDURE TOWARD
• POSSIBLECLOSING IN 30 DAYS - INSTRUCT
CODEC NOT TO EXPEND FURTHER FUNDS IN
r TITLE WORK RELATED TO CLOSING (Deferred
to April 25th) (See label 23).
30. RATIFY MANAGER'S FINDING OF NEED FOR R 91-281 213-214
ADDITIONAL PURCHASE OF 26 CHEVROLET 4/11/91
F CAPRICE` PURSUIT VEHICLES FORM MAROONE
CHEVROLET. [R.K.W.t POLICE CARS]
31. (A) AUTHORIZE COMMITMENT OF FUNDS IN R 91-282 214-219
SUPPORT OF AGAPE PROGRAM OF SOUTH M 91-283
FLORIDA JAIL MINISTRIES ALLOCATE 4/11/91
�L $15,000 (Law Enforcement Trust Fund).
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(B)°DISCUSS AND ;DEFER; (a) PROPOSED
�.t RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING SPONSORSHIP OF
-' THE DARE-MIAMI CRIMINAL JUSTICE
ant COUNCIL,: `AND (b) PROPOSED RESOLUTION
=rz APPROVING PURCHASE OF DIVE SUITS FOR
DIVING IN HAZARDOUS MATERIALS:
.. [R:K W. GONZALEZ GOENAGA]
32. (Continued Discussion) APPROVE REVISED M 91-284 220-225
FIGURES -SUBMITTED BY ADMINISTRATION IN 4/11/91 t
CONNECTION WITH ITEMIZED FUNDING OF
ARSIGNATED. XCCINOMIG DEVELOPMENT AND
HMIN43 AGENCIRS THROUGH GDBG FUNDS
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ACCEPT BID: P.J. CONSTRUCTORS, INC.,
R 91-285
225-226
FOR LOCAL DRAINAGE PROJECT E-67 B-5581
4/11/01
(Project 352275).
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34.
ACCEPT BID: CENTRAL FLORIDA EQUIMENT
R 91-286
226
RENTAL OF DADE COUNTY, INC., FOR HEAVY
4/11/91
EQUIPMENT FACILITY STORM SEWER
-
RETROFITTING PROJECT B-5557 (Project
352274).
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35.
ACCEPT BID: Y & W ROOFING AND
R 91-287
227
REMODELING, INC,, FOR COCONUT GROVE
4/11/91
EXHIBITION CENTER - WEST EXHIBIT AREA
ROOF REPLACEMENT B-3227-A (Project
415002).
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36.
ACCEPT BID: PINO-FONTICIELLA AND
R 91-288
228
ASSOCIATESO. INC., FOR CURTIS PARK
4/11/91
REDEVELOPMENT - COURTS PROJECT B-2983-A
(Project 331353).
37.
ACCEPT BID: Y & W ROOFING AND
R 91-289
228-229 -
REMODELING, INC., FOR DINNER KEY
4/11/91
MARINA DOCKMASTER ROOF REPLACEMENT B-
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3202-H (Project 414005).
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38.
DISCUSSION CONCERNING REQUEST BY
DISCUSSION
229-230
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DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY (DDA)
4/11/91
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FOR CONFIRMATION OF PROPOSED
APPOINTEES.
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39.
APPOINT INDIVIDUAL TO AUDIT ADVISORY
R 91-290
231
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COMMITTEE (Appointed was Clifton
4/11/91
Addison).,
40.
RATIFY MANAGER'S FINDING OF SOLE
R 91-291
231-234
-SOURCE -` APPROVE ACQUISITION OF: (a)
4/11/91
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MAINTENANCE OF SOFTWARE RELATED
—
£`
SERVICES FROM DIGITAL EQUIPMENT
-
CORPORATION (DEC) ($6,348), AND (b)
ENVIRONMENTAL SYSTEMS RESEARCH
INSTITUTE (ESRI) ($9,300).
[R.K.W.: COMPUTERS];
41,
EXTEND THE FLAGLER CORE AREA SECURITY
R 91-292
234-236
DISTRICT SPECIAL -IMPROVEMENT- DISTRICT
4/11/91
(SECURITY; STREET:_: MAINTENANCE, AND
SIMILAR SERVICES) - CONTINUE TO LEVY
SPECIAL.ASSESSMENTS AGAINST PROPERTIES.
[R.K.W.: DOWNTOWN RANGERS POLICE)
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42.
FIRST READING' ORDINANCE:, AMEND ;11000
ORDINANCE
237-238
'ATLAS - CHANGE CLASSIFICATION AT 4712-
FIRST READING
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1814.N.W::2x'PLACE;(WASHBURNS 'SUB) FROM
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R:TWO FAMILY,,,RESIDENTIAL TO PR PARKS
AND RECREATION.
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[R,K.Wi: .CHILDCARE, DAYCARE, FACILITY,
CURTIS PARK].
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APPROVE CQNDITIONALLY, MAJOR USE
R 91-293
238-239
Vv,
SPECIAL PERMIT FOR CURTIS PARK DAY CARE
4/11/91
4�SNTRR
"PROJECT (NONPROFIT CHILD. CARE
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PAC FLITY FOR AREA ''RESIDENTS), TO BE
� WGATBQ,`-AT 1820*4840 N. W. 22' PLACE.
440
Wk!VX ;; COD! `PAOHIBITIOIJ . PROCURE
R 91-294
239-241
RVICNS BY ILQY VAZQUEZ
4/11/9.1
CONCERNING PR OTXQN AND SOLICITATION
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S? am- w FOR; DULY 4T i WEEKEN1a
YV43ATA
(AT AA'FRONT PARK).
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45. EXECUTE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT
R 91-295
241-242
WITH ELOY VASQUEZ FOR PROMOTION AND
4/11/91
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SOLICITATION OF SPONSORS FORS JULY 4TH
WEEKEND EXTRAVAGANZA (AT BAYYFRONT
1`
PARR).
4G. ENDORSE CONSTRUCTION, AT EASTERLY
R 91-296
242-243
TERMINUS OF CHOPIN PLAZA, OF MEMORIAL
4/11/91
TO HONOR ALL PEOPLE WHO HAVE LOST THEIR
LIVES, EN ROUTE TO THE USA, ATTEMPTING
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TO GAIN FREEDOM . ACCEPT DONATION OF
LIBERTY COLUMN MONUMENT (ARTIST
HUMBERTO SANCHEZ).
47. (A) REAPPOINT OSMUNDO MARTINEZ TO
R 91-297
244-246
BAYFRONTPARK MANAGEMENT TRUST FOR 3-
R 91-298
YEAR TERM.
4/11/91
_
(B) APPOINT GARY SCHWEITZER AS
TREASURER OF BAYFRONT PARK MANAGEMENT
_
TRUST.
48. PERSONAL APPEARANCE: MS. PAT KELLER,
DISCUSSION
246-251
PRESIDENT OF ALLAPATTAH COMMUNITY
4/11/91
ASSOCIATION, INC., TO DISCUSS PLACEMENT
t.'
OF DAY CARE CENTER IN ALLAPATTAH MINI
PARK.
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49. ENDORSECONSTRUCTION OF MONUMENT
R 91-299
251-253
HONORING SPANISH NAVY IN BICENTENNIAL
4/11/91
a.._
PARK ON OCCASION OF QUINCENTENNIAL
CELEBRATION OF DISCOVERY OF AMERICA
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DESIGNATE SITE.
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50. APPROVE REQUEST BY: INFANTS IN NEED,
R 91-300
253-254
INC. / LINDA RAY CENTER FOR ABUSED AND
4/11/91
'-
ABANDONED CHILDREN, FOR REIMBURSEMENT
OF 1990 TAXES.
51. APPROVE, IN PRINCIPLE, CONCEPTUAL
R 91-301
254-255
MASTER PLAN FOR PROPOSED RENOVATION OF
4/11/91
PEACOCK PARK AS PRESENTED BY COCONUT
GROVE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE - ALLOCATE
$15,000 FROM COCONUT GROVE SPECIAL
.,Y
EVENTS DISTRICT FUND.
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52. PERSONAL APPEARANCE: REPRESENTATIVE OF
DISCUSSION
256-257
HEALTH _TECHNOLOGY SERVICES, INC., TO
4/11/91
a
REQUEST FUNDS FOR AIDS AWARENESS
CONFERENCE.
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53. (Continued Discussion) URGE SUPPORT
R 91-302
258
FOR THE CREATION OF A DEPARTMENT OF
4/11/91
ELDERLY AFFAIRS AS THE STATE'S
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ADMINISTRATIVE UNIT ON AGING FOR
FLORIDA (See label 9).
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54. GRANT REQUEST BY 11TH NATIONAL VETERANS
R 91-303
259-261
WHEELCHAIR GALES FOR CLOSURE OF
4/11/91
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DESIGNATED STREETS CONCERNING THEIR
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OPENING CEREMONIES PARADE.
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GRANT REQUEST BY MIAMI / BAHAMAS
R 91-304
262-266
GOOMBAY FESTIVAI, IN COCONUT GROVE, INC.
4/11/91
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FOR, FES WAIVERS AND CLOSURE OF
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DESIGNATED STREETS CONCERNING THE
00MBAY rRSTIVAL - RESTRICT RETAIL
PEDDLERS AND PERMIT SALE Or ALCOHOL.
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GRANT REQUEST BY MIAMI LOVING MIAMI, R 91-305
INC. FOR FEE WAIVER (INCLUDING USE OF 4/11/91
BAYFRONT PARK PEPPER FOUNTAIN) AND
PARTIAL USE OF STREETS CONCERNING THE
UNITY BIKE-A-THON.
APPROVE ISSUANCE OF RFP FOR TOWING
CONTRACT.
WAIVE ARTICLE IV SECTION 4.2 OF
MEMORANDUM OF AGREEMENT WITH FLORIDA
HOUSING COOPERATIVE, INC. (dated March
28, 1991), WHICH WILL ALLOW THE
CORPORATION TO GIVE A PURCHASE MONEY
FIRST MORTGAGE ($20,000) AND WILL ALLOW
A LIEN TO BE PLACED ON PROPERTY AT 1025
W. FLAGLER STREET.
M 91-306
4/11/91
R 91-307
4/11/91
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MINUTES OF REGULAR MEETING OF THE
CITY COMMISSION OF MIAMI, PLORIDA
On the llth day of April, 1991, the City Commission of Miami, Florida,
diet at its regular meeting place in the City Hall, 3500 Dan American Drive,
Miami, Florida in regular session.
The meeting was called to order at 9:06 a.m, by Mayor Xavier Suarez with
the following members of the Commission found to be presents
Commissioner Victor De Yurre
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins'
Commissioner Miriam Alonso
Vice Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
ALSO PRESENT:
Cesar Odio, City Manager
Jorge L. Fernandez, City Attorney
Matty Hirai, City Clerk
t- An invocation was delivered by Mayor Suarez. Vice Mayor Plummer then
led those 'present in a pledge of allegiance to the flag.
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1: 'PERSONAL APPEARANCE: MRS. NANCY DAWKINS INTRODUCES: (a) WINNERS OF THE
THEODORE K. GIBSON ORATORICAL CONTEST, AND (b) POET GLORIA GIGI WATSON.
Commissioner Dawkins: Mr. Mayor, before we get started, I'd like a point
of .
Mayor Suarez: Commissioner Dawkins, point of personal privilege.
Commissioner Dawkins:` As you know, each year we gave money to the Theodore R.
`S GibsonOratorical Contest, which was started by Father Gibson, and we used to �.
fund it. "Arid this - year I asked if the
y people of the Oratorical Contest would
bring three of the winners down here just so that we could hear what they do
with our money. So`'with,the indulgence of the five Commissioners and those in
the Co6ml sion chamber, Mrs. Dawkins or somebody, would you come forward and
= direct this please,. ma'am. That's not Nancy Reagan, that's Nancy Dawkins. `.
But she at ill` runs the show. a"
Mayor Suarez:-- Wait till you see the -book written about Nancy Dawkins.
Vice Mayor.,"Plummer: Living with you, that wouli be a very boring book.
Mrs Nancy "Dawkinsi' Good morning have with me only one. I imagine they
;�1n'st but fair _they essence of :: t i
� � g : t me." I will let this one say his part. and-
-maybe 2the ""other ,two- will be. in., The City has been funding this program for
the "last 12 years: " ? In " this past yearn, : they saw fit to cut. us out. So we
thought we-would."brin& some of thw'products of the contest. We serve students
: all over"Dade Oounty,`"all races- ethnic background. This morning I'll have my
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f"first 'oneu�and tie can present himself by giving his name, his school. We have
k the paxenta"here, the teachers "here, and the sponsors for this particular
student.So our; fi at participant will be'...'
Gommisiionbr Dawkinst Take the hand held mike, honey. Take that hand mike. '=
sst$r�; lrnesto ° 3rtb4r: Nalio,' my name is Erne ito Iribar, i am nine years
-ias he ,�urth =grade's I -attend Minmm� Para; ElementaxY 6chgQi, and F;
the tits .+9 �y aei ion'" is, �!We Shall Ov+erdome,,n by Dr. Martin Luther King,
fir* a a =9,ittU *018 that gyre. `ding in' our nov meat down is the south; x
MOW,i t � ► _ e r boo becv,;0v tha theme ion 'we $hail
}, ley s japrt � a��}�/� is �"ii myi ; sus ar},t �7 :� 0.1bge1Ji�sv� � p �{�� Thal l
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chair, in a bar, singing it, we shall overcome. Sometimes we have tears in
our eyes when we toil together to sing it, but atill decided to sing it. We
shall overcome. Before the victory is won, someone has to be torn in jail
some more, but we shall overcome. Don't worry about us, before the victory is
won someone have to lose jobs, but we shall overcome. Before the victory is
won, someone have to face physical death, and physical death is the price that
some must pay to free these children from a permanent psychological death.
Then nothing shall be more redemptive, we shall overcome. Before the victory
is won, someone have to misunderstood and called bad names and dismissed as
rabble rousers and agitators, but we shall overcome. And I tell you why. We
shall overcome because the arc of the universe is long. But it bends towards
;justice. We shall overcome because color is white. No law can live forever.
We shall overcome because William Cullen Bryant is right I will
rise again. We shall overcome because is right.
Two on the scaffold, walk on the throne. Yet that
scaffold sways the future. Behind the within the shadow,
keeping watch above us all. We shall overcome because the Bible is right.
You ,shall reap what you sow. We shall overcome. Deep in my heart, I do
believe, we shall overcome. And with this faith, will God the
cancers of despair, and bring new light into the dark chambers of pessimism.
And we will be able to rise from the fatigue of despair to the policy of hope
and this will be a great America. We will be the participants in making it
so. And so as I leave here this evening I say, walk together children, don't
you get weary, there's a great camp meeting in the promised land. Thank you.
Master Terrick Sullivan: Good morning. My name is Terrick Sullivan and I
attend the Riverside Elementary School. The poem I will be reciting to you
today is "Justice in America," by Gigi Watson.
"Justice, justice, oh justice,
Where in tarnations are you?
Child, I'm so ashamed of you and some of the stupid things that
you do.
Now,, :I know that you're in America, because the Pledge of
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Allegiance told me so.
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Talking about liberty and justice for all,
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Something we black folks don't even know.
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Someone -told me that I'd find in that tall Court House downtown
But all I found was just us.
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Justice was nowhere to be found.
I passed by Alcee Hastings and said, 'Alcee, have you seen justice
today?'
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He said, 'No, I've been here a long time and justice hasn't passed
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my way . '
Then I saw a foreign gentleman and asked,
.,:'Sir, have you seen justice today?'
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He,said, ,'No, but I heard that he is in America, but
he has never, never been there for me.'
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Then ,.I.saw another foreigner, and then I asked,
!Sir,,.have you, seen justice today?'
He said, 'Yes, he picked me up at the airport, and then he went
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thataway.'
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Aha, justice, so there you are.
Come onout of your hiding place,
But with all your double standards,`
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you ought to keep cover over your face.
No, no need to explain in explaining anything to me justice.
You,think you"re slick. I know your kind.
You only surface at your convenience which is usually about
election time.
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No, you don't have to tell me where you've been, honey.
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Because for homeys, you're always out of town.
'Yat, when other folks need you, justice, you can conveniently be
found.
-Justi.ce,. did you know that Mandela was looking for you? I
don't think
DiO. you..kncaw that. the ,2 hive Crew was looking for you, justice?
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;.d yn knctr:th+t Re+vereud Willie Seth of Miami was looking for
-- ' :tY/' don't : think (9.
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don't, my brother, it's going to ue some stormy, stormy oiacK
weather."
Thank you.
Mrs, Dawkins: We had two more kindergartners, but undoubtedly they could not
{' find their way. So thank you for listening. `
(APPLAUSE)
Commissioner Dawkins: I'd like to say when we started this, there was just
one or two schools, but they have taken this Countywide and now the school
board makes it mandatory in all schools. They hold eliminations in each
school, and then they eliminations are carried to the districts. Mrs. Watson,
you come forward, please. And so between the school board and now Miami -Dade
has taken it so that they can hold the finals at Miami -Dade and we will be
contributing again next year to this. Because, as you can see, it helps our
youth develop and you can see that they are beginning to speak, speak loudly.
Mrs.Watson, is the author of the last poem you heard. Do you want to say some
words, Gigi? Tell them in two or three languages, will you?
Mrs. Gloria Watson: In how many languages? Anyway, I have been asked by
Nancy 'to -write some new poetry because she was tired of hearing the same
poetry every year. So I have been writing poetry, especially for the contest,
and also for -Dade County School Board. And thank you very much. It's been a
pleasure being here.
Commissioner Dawkins: Thank you....
(APPLAUSE)
Mayor Suarez: Thank you, and congratulations to all of you. Particular
Nancy. May your serenity and wisdom inspire your husband here today for the
rest of these proceedings.
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2: PRESENTATIONS:
(A) 100TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE BARNACLE: THE BARNACLE SOCIETY.
r: (B) MOST OUTSTANDING OFFICERS OF THE MONTH (MARCH): THOMAS BRAGA AND _
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WILLIAM GOLDING.
1'. Proclamation to the Barnacle Society saluting their efforts in maintaining
the _historic property, known as the Earnacle, on this, its 100th
anniversary.,
2. Commendations to'Miami Police Officers Tomas Braga and Williams Golding
ter; for having been selected "Most Outstanding Officers of the Month of March,
Mayor Suarez: .'I was passed a little note, Mr. Manager, on the Bureau of
' Trisons issue. .-Is that something that...
Commissioner Dawkins: And we're self -insured so we have to put it through
the, .
Mayor Suarez:' Mr, Manager. George, we'll get that resolved later, please.
$, Comiseioner'Dawkins Mr. Manager, Mr, Mayor...
MagarSuarez:. Hello? -
'� G in ,wants
Mr.' Mayon wants everybody's attention, please,
+�►�ar.lere�Haz�k qcu, We'll get that resolved, whatever it is, iat+ar, We
gee eSi�b .#it to havol, Are you requesting that we handle the matter of tho
t o ri o e iret, or i that duet a lit, to noto T' receive �xaM l►0ur
1 kaa9w! that the ,00, beep liars �aaz: time
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3.1 ACCEPT BID: ALAN DEUTSCH ASSOCIATES, INC., FOR FURNISHING AND
INSTALLATION OF STAGE CURTAINS AT MANUEL ARTIME PERFORMING ARTS CENTER
(Project 333083).
RESOLUTION NO. 91-252
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BID OF ALAN DEUTSCH
ASSOCIATES, INC. FOR THE FURNISHING AND INSTALLATION
OF STAGE CURTAINS AT THE MANUEL ARTIME PERFORMING
ARTS CENTER FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY
DEVELOPMENT AT A TOTAL PROPOSED AMOUNT OF
$13,692.00; ALLOCATING FUNDS THEREFOR FROM THE
CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT NO. 333083; AUTHORIZING
THE CITY MANAGER TO INSTRUCT THE 'CHIEF PROCUREMENT
OFFICER TO ISSUE A PURCHASE ORDER FOR THIS SERVICE.
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(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and
on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
3.2 ACCEPT BID: COMMERCIAL OFFICE FURNITURE, FOR FURNISHING FOUR FIREPROOF
FILE CABINETS FOR POLICE DEPARTMENT.
RESOLUTION NO. 91-253
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BID OF COMMERCIAL OFFICE
FURNITURE FOR FURNISHING FOUR (4) FIREPROOF FILE
CABINETS FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF POLICE AT A TOTAL
PROPOSED AMOUNT OF $5,580.00; ALLOCATING FUNDS
THEREFORFROM THE 1990-91 OPERATING BUDGET ACCOUNT
CODE-#290201-850; AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO
INSTRUCT' THE CHIEF PROCUREMENT OFFICER TO ISSUE A
PURCHASE ORDER FOR THIS EQUIPMENT.
(Here 'follows body of resolution, omitted here and
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on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
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AUTHORIZE:. -PAYMENT -OF FILING FEE-($35,000) TO SOUTH FLORIDA
REGIONAL
PLANNING;COUNCIL, FOR APPLICATION FOR DEVELOPMENT APPROVAL FOR
INCREMENT
II OF SOUTHEAST OVERTOWN / PARK WEST DEVELOPMENT OF REGIONAL IMPACT
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(DRI) (Project 689001).
RESOLUTION NO. 91-254
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO PAY A
FILING" -`FEE NOT TO EXCEED`'$35,000.00 TO THE SOUTH
FLORIDA' REGIONAL PLANNING COUNCIL FOR THE
APPLICATION FOR DEVELOPMENT APPROVAL FOR INCREMENT
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II OF THE SOUTHEAST OVERTOWN/PARK WEST DEVELOPMENT
OF REGIONAL IMPACT- AND ALLOCATING FUNDS IN THAT
AMOUNT FROM PROJECT NO. 689001 ENTITLED "SOUTHEAST
OVERTOWN/PARK WEST- REDEVELOPMENT TRUST ACCOUNT."
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on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
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3,4 CORRECT SCRIVENER'S ERROR - AMEND 90-0134 MODIFY LEASE AGREEMENT WITH
METROPOLITAN DADE COUNTY TO PROVIDE FOR USE OF LARGER PORTION OF
HENDERSON PARK - FOR CONSTRUCTION OF PUBLIC HEALTH CLINIC.
RESOLUTION NO. 91=255
A RESOLUTION CORRECTING A SCRIVENER'S ERROR, '
AMENDING SECTION 1 OF RESOLUTION NO. 90-0134,
ADOPTED FEBRUARY 7, 1990, BY MODIFYING THE LEASE
AGREEMENT WITH METROPOLITAN DADE COUNTY, TO PROVIDE
FOR THE USE OF A LARGER PORTION OF HENDERSON PARK,
LOCATED AT 97.1 NORTHWEST SECOND STREET, MIAMI,
FLORIDA, FOR THE CONSTRUCTION AND USE OF A PUBLIC
HEALTH CLINIC, SAID LEASE BEING FOR A PERIOD OF
TWENTY YEARS AT ONE DOLLAR ($1.00) PER YEAR.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and
on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
3.5 APPROVE, IN PRINCIPLE, DESIGNATION OF URBAN LEAGUE OF GREATER MIAMI,
INC., AS SPONSORTOUNDERTAKE DEVELOPMENT OF LOW AND MODERATE INCOME
RENTAL HOUSING PROJECT ON CITY -OWNED HIGHLAND PARK SCHOOL SITE - RESCIND
DEVELOPMENT TOPRIOR COMMISSION ACTIONS, WHICH GRANTED
RIGHTS ACTION NORTH A INC.
/ THE BARNESS ORGANIZATION AND SENIOR CITIZENS IN
(SCAN).
RESOLUTION NO. 91-256
A RESOLUTION, WITH ATTACHMENT(S), APPROVING IN
PRINCIPLE, THE DESIGNATION OF THE URBAN LEAGUE OF
GREATER MIAMI, INC., A NOT -FOR -PROFIT CORPORATION,
AS A SPONSOR TO UNDERTAKE THE DEVELOPMENT OF A LOW -
DENSITY RENTAL HOUSING PROJECT AFFORDABLE TO
FAMILIES AND INDIVIDUALS OF LOW AND MODERATE INCOME
ON THE CITY -OWNED HIGHLAND PARK SCHOOL SITE, SUBJECT
TO CERTAIN TERMS AND CONDITIONS AS ENUMERATED
x: HEREIN; FURTHER RESCINDING PRIOR CITY COMMISSION
LEGISLATIVE ACTIONS WHICH GRANTED DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS
TO: CIRCA :LTD:/THE BARNESS ORGANIZATION AND SENIOR
CITIZENS IN ACTION NORTH, INC. (SCAN) FOR
iss..r DEVELOPMENT OF THE AFOREMENTIONED PARCEL.
(Here -follows body of resolution, omitted here and
on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
3.6 GRANT REQUEST BY MUSCULAR DYSTROPHY ASSOCIATION FOR CLOSURE
TO RETAIL
OF
DESIGNATED STREETS AND ESTABLISHMENT OF AREA PROHIBITED
5K RUN.
PEDDLERS -CONCERNING ANNUAL COCONUT -GROVE BED RACE AND PAJAMA
x RESOLUTION No. 91-i57
,4 A RESOLUTION RELATED.TO THE ANNtiAL COCONUT GROVE BED
RACE AND PAJAMA 5K RUN, TO BE CONDUCTED BY THE
MUSCULAR DYSTROPHY: ASSOCIATION :ON MAY 19, 1991;
AUTHORIZING THE CLOSURE OF DESIGNATED' STREETS TO
THAOUGN'VEHICULAR.TRAFFIC SUBJECT•TO THE ISSUANCE OF
PERMITS SY THE DEPARTMENTS "OF POLICE AND FIRE,
RBSCUE:AND :INSPECTION SERVICES; ESTABLISHING AN AREA
PROHIBITED TO RETAIL' PEDDLERS ` DURING THE PERIOD OF
} THE" 8�1ENTS'j F[SRTHER CONDITIONING ALL APPROVALS AND
AVnORIZATIONS HEREIN UPON THE ORGANIZERS PAVING FOR
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ALL NECESSARY COSTS OF CITY SERVICES ASSOCIATED WITH
,EVENT= AND :OBTAINING,INSURANCE TO>PROT$CT THE
C T :, N THE'" AMOVNT:` AS PRESCRIBED BY THE CITY MANAGER
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(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and
on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
3.7 GRANT REQUEST BY CURE AIDS NOW FOR CLOSURE OF DESIGNATED STREETS
CONCERNING YOUTH FOR LIFE BICYCLE RACE.
RESOLUTION NO. 91-258
A RESOLUTION RELATED TO THE "YOUTH FOR LIFE" BICYCLE
RACE TO BE CONDUCTED BY CURE AIDS NOW ON APRIL 28,
1991; AUTHORIZING THE CLOSURE OF DESIGNATED STREETS
TO THROUGH VEHICULAR TRAFFIC SUBJECT TO THE ISSUANCE
OF PERMITS BY THE DEPARTMENTS OF POLICE AND FIRE,
RESCUE AND INSPECTION SERVICES; FURTHER CONDITIONING
ALL APPROVALS AND AUTHORIZATIONS HEREIN UPON THE
ORGANIZERS PAYING FOR ALL NECESSARY COSTS OF CITY
SERVICES ASSOCIATED WITH THE EVENT AND OBTAINING
INSURANCE TO PROTECT THE CITY IN THE AMOUNT AS
PRESCRIBED BY THE CITY MANAGER OR HIS DESIGNEE.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and
on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
3.8
GRANT REQUEST BY RENOVACION CARISMATICA CATOLICA HISPANA FOR PARTIAL USE
OF DESIGNATED STREETS DURING THEIR PROCESSION.
RESOLUTION NO. 91-259
A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE PARTIAL USE OF CERTAIN
STREETS AND THOROUGHFARES DURING THE PROCESSION TO
BE CONDUCTED BY RENOVATION CARISMATICA CATOLICA
HISPANA ON MAY 18, 1991, SUBJECT TO THE ISSUANCE OF
PERMITS BY THE DEPARTMENTS OF POLICE AND FIRE,
RESCUE AND INSPECTION SERVICES; AUTHORIZING THE
POLICE DEPARTMENT TO CONTROL TRAFFIC FLOW ON SAID —
STREETS TO BE UTILIZED AS PART OF THE PROCESSION
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ROUTE; FURTHER CONDITIONING ALL APPROVALS AND
AUTHORIZATIONS HEREIN UPON THE ORGANIZERS PAYING FOR
ALL NECESSARY COSTS OF CITY SERVICES ASSOCIATED WITH
THE EVENT AND OBTAINING INSURANCE TO PROTECT THE
CITY IN THE AMOUNT AS PRESCRIBED BY THE CITY MANAGER
OR HIS, DESIGNEE.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and
on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
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GRANT REQUEST BY CITY OF MIAMI COMMITTEE ON BEAUTIFICATION AND
ENVIRONMENT :FOR CLOSURE OF DESIGNATED STREETS CONCERNING THE CLEAN UP,
FIX UP, PAINT UP: PARADE.
RESOLUTION NO. 91-260
A RESOLUTION RELATED TO THE CLEAN 'JP, FIX UP, PAINT
UP PARADETO BE <CONDUCTED BY TIDE CITY OF MIAMI
COMMITTEE:. ON BEAUTIFICATION' AND ENVIRONMENT ON
FRIDAY, MAY 3, 1991, BETWEEN THE HOURS OF 10:30 A.M.
TO 12:30 P.M.j AUTHORIZING THE CLOSURE OF DESIGNATED
STREETS TO THROUGH VEHICULAR TRAFFIC SUBJECT TO THE
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ISSUANCE OF PERMITS BY THE DEPARTMENTS OF POLICE AND
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FIRE, RESCUE AND INSPECTION SERVICESi,
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on file in the Office of the City Clerk,)
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3.10 GRANT REQUEST BY THE GREATER MIAMI RUNNIN3 ASSOCIATION FOR CLOSURE OF
DESIGNATED STREETS CONCERNING THE AMERICAN BANKERS CORPORATE RUN, A 3,5
MILE RUNNING EVENT (See label 10).
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RESOLUTION NO. 91-261
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A RESOLUTION RELATED TO THE AMERICAN BANKERS
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CORPORATE RUN, A 3.5 MILE RUNNING EVENT, TO BE
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CONDUCTED BY THE GREATER MIAMI RUNNING ASSOCIATION
ON MAY 9, 1991; AUTHORIZING THE CLOSURE OF
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DESIGNATED STREETS TO THROUGH VEHICULAR TRAFFIC
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SUBJECT TO THE ISSUANCE OF PERMITS BY THE
DEPARTMENTS OF POLICE AND FIRE, RESCUE AND
INSPECTIONS SERVICES; FURTHER CONDITIONING ALL
APPROVALS AND AUTHORIZATIONS HEREIN UPON THE
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ORGANIZERS PAYING FOR ALL NECESSARY COSTS OF CITY
SERVICES ASSOCIATED WITH THE EVENT AND OBTAINING
INSURANCE TO PROTECT THE CITY IN THE AMOUNT AS
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PRESCRIBED BY THE CITY MANAGER OR HIS DESIGNEE.
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3.11 ACCEPT MODIFIED PLAT: DEGARMO ESTATES.
RESOLUTION NO. 91-262
A RESOLUTION OF THE MIAMI CITY COMMISSION ACCEPTING
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THE MODIFIED PLAT ENTITLED "DEGARMO ESTATES," A
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SUBDIVISION IN THE CITY OF MIAMI AND SAID REVISED
PLAT HAVING BEEN MODIFIED AS REQUIRED BY DADE COUNTY
AT ,TIME- OF RECORDATION; IN ALL OTHER RESPECTS
REAFFIRMING AND RATIFYING RESOLUTION NO. 90-515;
FURTHER APPROVING THE NEW LEGAL DESCRIPTION FOR THE
PLATTED LOTS; AND AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE CITY
MANAGER TO EXECUTE ANY AND ALL DOCUMENTS NECESSARY
TO EFFECTUATE THIS APPROVAL.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and
on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
3.12 CLAIM
SETTLEMENT: PABLO GUERRA ($35,000).
RESOLUTION NO. 91-263
A ,RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE DIRECTOR OF FINANCE TO
PAY TO PABLO GUERRA, WITHOUT THE ADMISSION OF
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LIABILITY, THE SUM OF $35,000.00 IN FULL AND
COMPLETE SETTLEMENT OF ANY AND ALL CLAIMS AND
DEMANDS" AGAINST THE CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA, UPON THE
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EXECUTION OF A RELEASE RELEASING THE CITY OF MIAMI
FROM ANY, -AND. ALL CLAIMS.AND DEMAND, WITH SAID FUNDS
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THEREFOR BEING ALLOCATED FROM THE CITY OF MIAMI
INSURANCE AND SELF-INSURANCE TRUST FUND.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and
on,_ f ile; in the Office of the City Clerk.)
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3.13 AUTHORIZE CITY ATTORNEY TO ENGAGE HOLLAND AND KNIGHT ($5,000) - TO
PROVIDE FORMAL WRITTEN BOND COUNSEL OPINION ON WHETHER DEPARTMENT OF
OFF-STREET PARKING MAY CONTRIBUTE FUNDS FOR INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS
NOT DIRECTLY RELATED TO PROPOSED COCONUT GROVE PLAYHOUSE PARKING GARAGE
(See label 7).
RESOLUTION NO. 91-2 54•
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY ATTORNEY TO ENGAGE
THE LAW FIRM OF HOLLAND & KNIGHT TO PROVIDE A FORMAL
WRITTEN BOND COUNSEL OPINION ON THE ISSUE OF WHETHER
THE DEPARTMENT OF OFF-STREET PARKING MAY CONTRIBUTE
FUNDS FOR INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS NOT DIRECTLY
RELATED TO THE PROPOSED COCONUT GROVE PLAYHOUSE
PARKING GARAGE, WITH THE COST OF SAID LEGAL SERVICES
NOT TO EXCEED THE SUM OF $5,000.0.) BEING ALLOCATED
FROM DEPARTMENT OF OFF-STREET PARKING MONIES.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and
on file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
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4. (A) EMERGENCY ORDINANCE: AMEND 10782 - !NCREASE TOTAL APPROPRIATION TO
CAPITAL PROJECT: SOUTHEAST OVERTOWh / PARK WEST PHASE II (Project
322057) BY $36,002, FROM U.S. DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND URBAN
DEVELOPMENT SECTION 108 LOAN PROCEEDS (TOTAL PROJECT APPROPRIATION
$2,755,702).
(B) EXECUTE PURCHASE AGREEMENT WITH THE ESTATE OF WILLIAM PATTERSON,
SR., FOR PROPERTY AT: (a) 235 N.W. 13 STREET, AND (b) 245 N.W. 12
STREET - FUNDS TO BE USED FROM SECTION 108 LOAN PROCEEDS FOR
DEVELOPMENT OF SOUTHEAST OVERTOWN / PARK WEST REDEVELOPMENT
PROJECT.
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Mayor Suarez: CA-6, you wanted...
Commissioner Dawkins: Mr. Mayor...
Mayor Suarez: Yes, Commissioner Dawkins.
Commissioner Dawkins: Before we do anything on six.
money available to do this?
Mr. Odio: Yes, sir.
Commissioner Dawkins: Where is it? `
Mr. 'Jorge Fernandez: Well, in order...
Mr. Odio: Go ahead.
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six, which is a resolution, the monies first have to be appropriated by way of
an ordinance. And we have prepared an emergency ordinance for that purpose to
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be considered here this morning, so that it can travel together with item 6.
Mr. Odio: This is from the...
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Commissioner Dawkins: OK, Mr. Manager, I'd like to move an emergency item
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which says that we increase the... amend the capital improvement appropriation
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ordinance by increasing the appropriations for the project entitled, Southeast
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Overtown/Park Wept, Phase II, project number 33...322057, by $36,000. This
additional amount is to be appropriated from the United States Department of
Housing and Urban Development, section 108 loan. I so move.
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Mr. Fernandez: Yes, and this would be an emergency ordinance.
Mayor Suarez: Do we have a motion and a second, Madam City Clerk? OK.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Justify the emergency. tor. City Attorney, justify the
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Mr. Fernandezt The reason for the emergency is that this item is necessary in
order for the development of this site, and the money has to first be
appropriated by way of ordinance.
Mayor Suarezt Call the roll.
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED-
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AN EMERGENCY ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTION 1 OF ORDINANCE
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NO. 10782 AS AMENDED, THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT
APPROPRIATIONS ORDINANCE, BY INCREASING THE TOTAL
APPROPRIATION TO THE CAPITAL 11ROJECT ENTITLED
"SOUTHEAST OVERTOWN/PARK WEST PHASE II", PROJECT NO.
322057 BY $36,002; SAID AMOUNT TO BE AVAILABLE FROM
THE UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND URBAN
DEVELOPMENT SECTION 108 LOAN PROCEEDS; RESULTING IN A
TOTAL APPROPRIATION OF $2,755,702; CONTAINING A
` REPEALER PROVISION AND SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.
Was introduced by Commissioner Dawkins and seconded by Commissioner
Plummer, for adoption as an emergency measure and dispensing with the
requirement of reading same on two separate days, which was agreed to by the
following vote:
I AYES:. Commissioner Victor De Yurre
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Miriam Alonso
Vice Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
a Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
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Whereupon the Commission on motion of Commissioner Dawkins and seconded
by Commissioner Plummer, adopted said ordinance by the following vote:
:• AYES: Commissioner Victor De Yurre
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Miriam Alonso'.
i Vice Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
t Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
SAID ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO. 10861.,
`!Y The: City Attorney' read ,the ordinance into the public record and
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to the public,
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Commissioner Dawkiz;s s Now.. I . move six. Now I move. CA-6, Mr. Manager - I mean,
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Mayor Suarez; •PK, now.we need -a separate motion on CA-b.
i/10mayor : Plummer; Second,
Mr, Fernandes; Too, now you need regular six yov need to move.
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Mayor Suarez: And seconded by Vice Mayor. Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Dawkins, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 91-265
A RESOLUTION, WITH ATTACHMENTS, AUT14ORIZING THE CITY
MANAGER TO EXECUTE AN AGREEMENT OF PURCHASE AND SALE
FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 235 N.W. 13TH STREET AND
THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 245 N.W. 12TH STREET, IN r
SUBSTANTIALLY THE FORM ATTACHED, FOR PRICES AS STATED
HEREIN BETWEEN THE CITY OF MIAMI ("PURCHASER") AND THE
ESTATE OF WM. PATTERSON, SR. ("SELLER") FOR THE
PURCHASE AND SALE OF THE PROPERTY (MORE PARTICULARLY
DESCRIBED HEREIN), FOR THE TOTAL PURCHASE PRICE OF
$36,002, WITH FUNDS FOR THE ACQUISITION OF SAID
PROPERTY BEING USED FROM SECTION 108 LOAN PROCEEDS,
FOR THE PURPOSE OF DEVELOPMENT OF THE SOUTHEAST
OVERTOWN/PARK WEST REDEVELOPMENT PROJECT; FURTHER
AUTHORIZING THE CITY ATTORNEY TO TAKE WHATEVER STEPS
ARE NECESSARY TO CLOSE THE TRANSACTIONS WITH THE
SELLER AS EARLY AS PRACTICABLE; SAID AUTHORIZATION
BEING CONDITIONED ON THE APPROPRIATION OF THE -
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(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
a file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
is Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Victor De Yurre
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Miriam Alonso
Vice Ma or J T. Plummer J
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Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
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5. AUTHORIZE CITY ATTORNEY TO ASSIST IN OBTAINING 3-DAY LIQUOR PERMIT FOR
FLORIDA INTERNATIONAL RESTAURANT AND HOTEL EXPOSITION, INC.: (a) TO
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DISPLAY BY MANUFACTURERS / DISTRIBUTORS PRODUCTS LICENSED UNDER STATE
BEVERAGE LAW, AND (b) TO ALLOW CONSUMPTION OF SUCH BEVERAGES ON PREMISES
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Mayor Suarezv OK, CA-7. Clarification.
Vice Mayor Plummer:,._ My question is simply why is the City involved in
assisting? I'm concerned about the fact that the City's name and liability is
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on -the line far -a private corporation. It would seem like to me they should
be the ones that are taking out the liquor permit, not us.
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Commissioner Dawkins: That's the same concerns I have, Mr. Mayor.
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Mr. Jorge Fernandez: Yes, State Statutes provide that whenever a facility
that is owned by a-Aunicipality, in that facility consumption will be had. It
has got to be; the owner of the facility that lends its good name for the
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Mrs Fernandez: Yes, where we have this type of temporary convention or
convention facilities. We've done this almost every year that I can remember.
Commissioner Dawkins: It doesn't make it right, Mr. City Attorney.
Mr. Fernandez: That is the way that State Statutes provide for it, sir. When
municipality owns the facilities in which ;he events will take place and the
City or the municipality, in this case underwrites it or participates in the
profits of it, or in the organization of it, State Statute mandates that it be
the City that requires or makes the application on behalf of the...
Commissioner Dawkinst Well, why is it, Mr. City Attorney, that an
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_ organization which appears to me would be able to stand on its own feet and do
this, we find the City saying that it's mandatory that we do it, and when
little small groups come up here who do not have the wherewithals or the know-
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how to do this, we tell them that they have to go get the permit. Now what...
I mean, why is it that we got a double standard and we do not do the same
thing for the small CBOs (Community Based Organizations) or whatever in the
community who can't do this on their own? I mean...
Mayor Suarez: Yes, why couldn't we pass on the responsibility? What would it
take to change it so we could just pass on the responsibility for them to make
the application directly?
Mr. Fernandez:- Adopt a policy that you will not do this hereinafter. And
that...
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Mayor Suarez: You said under state law, we were required to. How can we pass
on the responsibility? Ask for a change in state law?
Mr. Fernandez: Well, let me tell you what the cover memo to this item says
that interprets_ what the state requirement is. In convention halls,
coliseums, and similar type buildings where there is an existing beverage
license, upon the approval of the incorporated city, the director may, in his
discretion, issue a permit for not more than five calendar days for the
display by manufacturers or distributors of products licensed under the
beverage law. And may authorize consumption of such beverages on the premises
only.
Mayor Suarez: OK, so if we wanted to have these folks agencies, at cetera...
Vice Mayor.Plummer: Is this longer than five days?
Mayor Suarez: ...apply directly to the state, they would need to have a
change in state law.
Mr. Fernandez: No,.this would only.be for three days.
` Vice Mayor Plummer: Well, why can't they... -iou know, I'm just concerned
about the. fact that if, God forbid, alcohol was sold to a minor or something
like that, that the City's name is going to be infringed upon,
Mayor Suarez; The entanglement of the City sounds like it's being added to by
;:. the fact that we have to participate, in this application. That's all the
w; -„ Commission is concerned about. Mr, City Attorney, if you would just give us
an indication of what it would take to change state law by lobbying our;
t.. iegialators, et cetera, and we can otherwise resolve the item. If you would
just" sort of say, Commission, what you need to do if you want to change this
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otherwise go on to the next.item,: Is that a correct statement?
Mr;Fezmandszs:.pf course, sir.: .
Meyor,$usrsss ;Thank you, I'll entertain a motion on CA-7, for lack of any
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The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Alonso, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 91-266
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY ATTORNEY TO ASSIST
IN OBTAINING A THREE-DAY LIQUOR PERMIT FOR THE FLORIDA
INTERNATIONAL RESTAURANT AND HOTEL EXPOSITION, INC.,
FOR THE DISPLAY BY MANUFACTURERS OR DISTRIBUTORS OF
PRODUCTS LICENSED UNDER THE STATE BEVERAGE LAW, AS
I'. WELL AS AUTHORIZE CONSUMPTION OF SLICE BEVERAGES ON THE
�. PREMISES OF THE COCONUT GROVE CONVENTION CENTER,
MIAMI, FLORIDA, FROM JULY 19-21, 1991
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner De Yurre, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote:
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AYES: Commissioner Victor De Yurre
Commissioner Miriam Alonso
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES:: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Vice Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
ABSENT: None:
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6. (A) DISCUSS AND WITHDRAW PROPOSED RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING ACCEPTANCE OF
25 DEEDS OF DEDICATION FOR HIGHWAY PURPOSES.
(B) INSTRUCT ADMINISTRATION TO PROPOSE LEGISLATION TO LIMIT THE TAKING
OF LAND FROM PROPERTY OWNERS ONLY ON INSTANCES WHERE THEIR
PROPERTY IMPACT THE CITY'S PLANS FOR EXPANSION.
Mayor. Suarez: Item CA-13. We had a clarification.
Commissioner Alonso: Yes. I'd. like to have some clarification as what is
this and why it is done? -and if we have any kind of compensation
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the property owners.
Dr. Luis Prieto: OK, there is no compensation.
Commissioner Alonso: No compensation to property owners.
Mr..Prieto:; There. is no compensation, no. This, in fact, was implemented
back in 1985 and the intent was to take right-of-way to expand the streets at
that: time.. There was a massive street pro3ram. We keep on taking the'
K property even though we do not really need to take it at this time.
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Mr. Prieto: Yes, we calculate we take around $8,000,000 a year through this
mechanism-,
Vice Mayor Plummer: For future development.
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Commissioner Alonzo; So I certainly would like to see some changes in this
j process.,- I don't see the need to take land from the property owners, giving
them no ootapensation. It serves no purpose to the City of Miami. We have no
plans whatsoever to expand.Why are we doing th.s?, We have a long list of U
pplopl.o.`and we've been doing this for a long time, and it serves no purpose
other than affecting the property owner.
'•>,if-r-totiov Commissioner, let us proposo som,, legislation to limit the t(Lke
only, those proportion, that impact the C4ty, and we will bring that ,
1* 4140 Wly9u for *our approval,
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Commissioner Alonso: Certainly. I'd like to sae that. So I think the best
is to instruct then to administration to work on this, and we don't take this
item; Thank you,
Mayor Suarez: Would you like to have this item withdrawn then, Commissioner?
Commissioner Alonso: 'yes, definitely, until we hear from the administration
on further legislation to limit only to the land that is needed for expansion
in the City of Miami. And the rest of the land that we are taking Just as a
bureaucratic process is stop immediately.
Mayor Suarez: Is this needed - any of what is contained in CA-13 is needed
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for, any kind of a project that is ongoing or important or anything, so that we
know what impact it will have?
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Mr. Prieto: No, sir, but I will check and make sure that that is one hundred
percent accurate. If it isn't, then I will resubmit, along with the
legislation, to rectify section 5447.
Mayor.Suarez: OK, even later on in the day.
Commissioner Alonso: Mayor, this has been an exercise done by the City of
Miami through the years without serving any process, any benefit to the City
of"Miami'.. Just a continuation of demanding from the property owners to donate
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to the City of Miami a piece of land that we have no intention whatsoever of
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using. . And we do affect them and we give them no compensation for our
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request. I don't know why we have continued to do this. It .should be
requested only in cases where it has some meaning to the City of Miami, and
then: it has to be done.
Mayor Suarez: And if you're...
Commissioner Alonso: Otherwise, I see no sense in continuing to do this.
Mayon Suarez: Since you gave sort of a contradictory answer. First you said
no, it's not ,needed, and then you say you're going to check. If by any,
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chance, you're checking in the next few minutes or hours proves that it will
somehow affect an ongoing project or an important project, don't hesitate to
get back to us. We'll try to prevail upon Commissioner Alonso.
Commissioner Alonso: Yes, let me ask one more question. These 25 that we
have 'in.front of us, can you tell me if the Cit7 of Miami needs land for any
of these 25?
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Mayor Suarez: Yes ,'that `was -the thrust of the question.
Mr. Prieto: My impression was that we do not need, any of those.
Commissioner Alonso: We do not. Thank you.
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Mayor Suarez: OK, check on your impressions, please, so we don't hold up
anything. -
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Mayor Suarez: OK, ido we need to move to defer the_item? -rather than just
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rietos You can withdraw it,because if we do have a problem, we'li
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7. (Continued Discussion) BRIEF COMMENTS BY COMMISSIONER DAWKINS VOICING
CONCERN ABOUT THE NUMBER OF LEGAL OPINION CONTRACTS GOING TO THE LARGER
LAW FIRMS (See label 3,13).
Commissioner Dawkins: Mr. Mayor, before we...
Mayor Suarez: Yes,
Commissioner Dawkins: I'd like to comment on 16.
Mayor Suarez: Commissioner Dawkins.
Commissioner Dawkins: Is anybody here from Off -Street Parking? OK, well, I'm
sure they're listening over at Off -Street Parking. Now in 16, I did not say
anything because they went and got Holland & Knight. I've asked them over and
over that when you have these little $5,000 contracts, that there are enough
minority firms out here struggling, trying to make it, that you could give
these little contracts to, instead of giving it to a firm like Holland &
Knight. So now, take that back to the... No, T don't need no discussion. I
just want you to tell them, take it back to the board and tell them that next
time, I'm going to stop it. Because this is my second warning. Five thousand
dollars will keep a lot of small firms' lights on where it's not a drop in the
bucket to Holland & Knight, in my opinion. So I just wanted to put that in
the record. Thank you, Jack.
8. APPROVE CODESIGNATION OF S.W.
S.W. 8TH AND 13TH
1ST AVENUE! BETWEEN
STREETS AS: KAGOSHIMA WAY, IN
RECOGNITION OF MIAMI'S SISTER CITY OF
KAGOSHIMA, JAPAN.
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Commissioner Dawkins: Mr. Mayor, I got
two pocket items,
Mr. Vice Mayor.
Vice Mayor: -Plummer: Go ahead, sir.
Commissioner Dawkins: All right, one
of them it that:
THEREUPON, COMMISSIONER DAWKINS
READ THE RESOLUTION
INTO THE
'PUBLIC RECORD, BY TITLE ONLY.
This is -done in exchange for the city
of Kagoshima, Japan,
naming a street
Miami Way in Miami. And I so move.
Mayor Suarez: So moved.
Commissioner Alonso: Second.
Vice Mayer Plummer: Second.
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Mayor Suarez: Second. Any discussion?
If not, please call the roll.
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Commissioner De Yurre: Discussion.
Has this gor.e before
the proper board?
Commissioner Dawkins: Yes, sir.
Commissioner Ae Yurre:- OK,
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The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Dawkins, who -
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 91-267
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A RESOLUTION CODESIGNATING SOUTHWEST 1ST AVENUE FROM
SOUTHWEST STH STREET TO SOUTHWEST 13TH STREET, MIAMI,
FLORIDA, AS "KAGOSHIMA WAY"; FURTHER, DIRECTING THE
CITY CLERK TO TRANSMIT A COPY OF THIS RESOLUTION TO
THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, FIRE, RESCUE AND INSPECTION
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SERVICES DEPARTMENT, DEPARTMENT OF GENERAL SERVICES
ADMINISTRATION/SOLID WASTE, DADE COUNTY PUBLIC WORKS
DEPARTMENT AND THE UNITED STATES POSTAL SERVICE.
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(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
- Upon being seconded by Commissioner Alonso, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Victor De Yurre
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Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Miriam Alonso
Vice Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
9. DISCUSS AND TEMPORARILY TABLE PROPOSED RESOLUTION URGING SUPPORT FOR THE
—CREATION OF A DEPARTMENT OF ELDERLY AFFAIRS AS THE STATE'S
ADMINISTRATIVE UNIT ON AGING FOR FLORIDA (See label 53).
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Commissioner Dawkins: Secondly, Mr. Mayor, I have a resolution here I'm going
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to ;give to all of us, and I'd like to bring it back up this afternoon. But
I'm going to say it now, and I'd like Josefina Carbonell to come down. As you
know,- the Governor is having difficulty establishing a Department of the
Elderly, and I'd like to pass a resolution. And the resolution says, "We
support. the creation and designation of a Department of Elder Affairs as a
state unit`. -on aging- for the State of Florida." And since I have not had
anyone look at this, I'd like to pass it out and this afternoon discuss it, _
and delete or add anything that you have to add. And we were thinking about
trying to spearhead this movement statewide. Go ahead.
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Mayor Suarez: And Josefina would be the statewide secretary of that?
Commissioner Dawkins: Yes.
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Ms. Josefina Carbonell: Oh, if you all want me to leave from Miami, that's
fine.
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Mayor Suarez: At a salary not to exceed $5,000 a year, which is the same as
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the Commission.
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Ms, Carbonell: Mr, Mayor and Commissioners, I am part of the task force that
the Governor formed for the creation of the Department of Elderly Affairs, and
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there is 16 of south Florida residents that are on that task force, comprised
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of 70. We've gone through about four months of planning and looking at the.
structures to the creation of this department, and it has been the
recommendation, - and there's two bills, one in the Senate and House for the
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creation of the department. It would eliminate administrative structures,
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therefore bringing some more dollars, hopefully, to the service level. And it
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would give more control at the local community level which we are also in
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accordance with - and I'm,.. We are spearheading an effort that started last
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supporting the creation of the Department of Elderly Affairs. And we're
agkin for your support,
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Commissioner De Yurre: Josefina, isn't there a concern that this board is not
going to have the power to make decisional That it's going to be a
recommending kind of situation?
Ms. Carbonell: Well, the House version and the Senate version is that way.
It is just transferring the monies that are currently being administered under
the Pepper Commission to be just like a planning body with no power
whatsoever. The difference between the Governor's plan and the Senate and the
House version is that currently there are current administrative dollars
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attached to federal dollars that we don't need new administrative dollars to
administer these programs. It's just the transfer of these dollars out of HRS
into the new department. So it's really not asking for any new money. As a
matter of fact, the money is there, attached to it. Just by the creation of
the department and the naming, the actual naming of the state unit on aging
that is why the proposed resolution that is berore you specifically states,
state unit on aging automatically all the federal dollars attached to it will
pass on. The concern... What happened was, in 1988, voters mandate, the
voters overwhelmingly approved the authorization and the creation of this
department, And what the legislature did was create the Pepper Commission on
Aging, which planned and created funds for that Pepper Commission to plan for
this department. It's more than planned, it's more than overly studied, and
there's tons of material available and we just have to do it, and that's it.
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Commissioner Dawkins: And also, as she said, there is money available and the
creation of the department does not need any new funding. And in my opinion,
it's a way of transferring the funds into an agency where we have...
where
they will have direct control over where these dollars go instead of
having to
go through the bureaucracy and be denied.
Mayor Suarez: OK, item two.
Ms. Hirai: Mr. Mayor, may we approve the minutes, please.
Mayor Suarez: I'm sorry?
Ms. Hirai: A motion for the minutes, may we?
Mayor Suarez: No, the motion is not ready yet at this point.
Commissioner Dawkins: No, it's not ready.
Mayor Suarez: Oh, to approve the minutes of the prior meeting?
Yes, I'll
entertain that motion.
Commissioner Dawkins: So move. Second.
Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded. Any discussion? If not, please
call ,the
roll.
NOTE FOR THE RECORD: ON MOTION DULY MADE BY
COMMISSIONER DAWKINS AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER DE
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COMMISSION.MEETING WERE UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.
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(Continued Discussion) GREATER MIAMI RUNNING ASSOCIATION NOTIFIES
COMMISSION OF NAME CHANGE OF THEIR EVENT TO: AMERICAN BANKERS CORPORATE
RUN (FORMERLY CALLED MANUFACTURERS BANKERS CORPORATE RUN)(See label
3.10).
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Mayor Suarez: You had CA-12. Let's hear what your point was even though you
didn't make it timely.
Mr. John Huseby: I apologize for that, Mr. Mayoj. On CA-12...
g Mayor Suarez: Give us the name and address.
Mr. Huseby: My name is John Huseby, 6450 S.W. 82nd Street, and I'm the race
director for this running event. There's been a name change, and it used to
be called this event, The Manufacturers Hanover Corporate Challenge, but we
havenew sponsorship thij year. It's the American Bankers Corporate Run.
Everything is the same except the name change. It's still three and -a -half
miles, same date, same time.
Mr, Jorge Fernandez: We can duly take notice of that and just change it in
the resolution. It doesn't need further action.
Commissioner Dawkins: You need a motion for that?
Mr. Fernandez: What was that?
Mayor Suarez: He said...
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Commissioner Alonso: Do we need a motion?
Commissioner Dawkins: So move.
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on the record, and it doesn't change the substance of the resolution already
passed.,
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Mayor Suarez: Thank you.
Mr. Huseby: Thank you, sorry.
Mayor Suarez: That's good clarification, it always helps.
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11. DISCUSSION CONCERNING PREPAID LEGAL SERVICES FOR CITY EMPLOYEES; ALLOW
EXISTING GROUPS TO OPERATE UNTIL AN RFP IS PREPARED.
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Mayor Suarez: Item 2. Prepaid legal services discussion.
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Ms. Sue Weller: Sue Weller, Labor Relations Officer. You had requested, or
Commissioner Dawkinshadrequested a recommendation from the administration on
prepaid legal insurance. I believe you received a copy of our recommendation,
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suggesting .that prepaid legal insurance be offered. However, that it go out
to bid so that it is only under one prepaid legal insurance company. For
bargaining unit:employees,that should the three bargaining units that do not
have prepaid :legal, FOP, Fire,_ and Sanitation, that if they desire prepaid
Legal:,Jnsurance,,;that they bring it to the bargaining table. AFSCME currently
has a,prepaid legal insurance plan. And we also recommended that as far as
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part temporary dmployees are concerned, that if we have foil time
tesrppnrAry employees,out there -that are interested in prepaid legal insurance,
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that they fall under the gamecategoryas manage7-ial-confidential employees,
st►cruarag; OK, what do you Dead from us? Wh.:t action do you need from ua,
►_ are.;ra„just gain$ to hear from protestors -.or :iupporteia of the conc+st?
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Me. Weller: Well, I'm sure they're here to protest whatever it is we're
recommending.
Mayor Suarez: What would you need from the Commission today? -nothing? Just,
you going to go on your...
Me. Weller: No, sir.
Mayor Suarez: ...procedure of preparing the bid. All right. Give us name
and address and what brings you here.
Mr. Roger Rodriguez: Roger Rodriguez, 10666 N.E. llth Avenue, Miami Shores.
G I'm not here to protest or support. I'm basics,lly a member of the law fire
that administers the policy, and I'm willing to entertain any questions that
the,Commission has as far as how the policy is Implemented. What the benefite
are that accrue to the members of the policy, and any other questions that...
Mayor Suarez: Well, we're sort of working our way through the process of
preparing an RFP, so I don't know that this might be the most appropriate time
to take any input on it. But if any Commissioner wants to ask you a question,
certainly.
Commissioner
Dawkins: How long is it going to take us to prepare the RFP?
Ms. Weller:
This is .April, I would say by May. _
Commissioner
Dawkins: And have it come back and be ready to implement?
Ms. Weller:
The last Commission meeting in May.
Commissioner
Dawkins: The last Commission meeting in May?
Ms. Weller:
About the first one in June then.
Commissioner
Dawkins: You can't put it out and bring it back by then, can
you?
Ms. Weller:
Well, we could have it prepared to come before the Commission, I
would think.
Commissioner:Dawkins:
OK, so you bring it back in May. All right. Then you
got'to.do what?. -put it out. -
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Yes, sir.
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Dawkins: For how long?
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Sixty days.
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Dawkins: ':Six years?
Ms. Weller:
Sixty days.
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Dawkins: Sixty days. So that's four months. And then we have
K to- so,we"re talking about six months on the outside, right?
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On the outside::
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Dawkins: All right, in the meantime, those individuals who have
-_ prepaid legal, what are they going to do in this six months interim?
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think that some kind of a way if AFSCME will not allow them to stay on for six
months, then we have to create a slot for them to withhold for six months.
And at the end of the six months, they go out for bid and if these people win
and everybody want them, fine, If Midwest win, they're out.
Me. Wellerc Well, we have no problem in extending it however long the bid
process takes.
Commissioner Dawkins: OK, but what do we do then in the case that the
majority of the people want Midwest and AFSCME still wants the group the
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Ms. Weller: Since AFSCME negotiated for their own insurance slot, they would
keep whoever they want.
Commissioner Dawkins: So they're not in this? They don't have anything at
all to do with this?
Ms. Weller: No, sir.
Commissioner Dawkins: OK, so AFSCME cannot come in and suggest, complain, or
do nothing.
Ms. Weller: No, air.
Commissioner Dawkins: Because they're already in, got their slot and all.
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Ms. Weller: They have their slot, they have their provider.
Commissioner Dawkins: So whatever we do, it's between all of the other
employees.
Ms._Weller: All of the managerial -confidential, unless the other bargaining
#}: -.units want to come in... representatives want to come in and bargain for that.
Commissioner Dawkins: But see, you keep saying what I'm trying not to hear.
You keep _saying that, if the bargaining agent, Fire, Police, and Sanitation,
! does- not choose, to make this one of their bargaining agents - I mean,
bargaining chits - you see, we're bargaining in my opinion, from a position of
# strength. See, what we're saying to them is, hey, we're going to hold this
' over here, and if you want it, you've got to give up something in order to get
it., And ,that's unfair, in my opinion. We should not tell the bargaining
agent, that you have to negotiate this as a part of your bargaining_ agent
unless we. say, if you want it, we'll give it to you, if, you don't. I. don't
want you to be able to tell them you got to give up - let's just say the
Police Department, - you've got to give up your right to take home a car, if
you're going to use pre -legal insurance. We de.'t need that.
Vice Plummer: Well Mayor go back to AFSCME who did, in fact, give
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up a chip to get.;this in fairness to them? They bargained for it...
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Vice _Mayor Plummer:. No, it's not a matter of rights. AFSCME, in their
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AFSCME for their... they gave up that right.
Commissioner Dawkins; OK, all right, let me ask... Charlie, what did they
get 'this?
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Mr. Cox: ...I could pull out the memos.
Vice Mayor Plummer: I said, assuming that they did give up something...
Commissioner Dawkins: Oh, I'm pretty sure they gave... Charlie, can you find
out for me what you gave up? -you know, in your bargaining so that I can.:.
Mr. Cox: Well, then I'd have to go back and compare what we got compared to
the other three unions in that year of the contract.
Commissioner Dawkins: The union... no, no, no, no,_ now. No, you can't do
that.
Mr. Odio: Let me...
Commissioner Dawkins: You have to... no, wait a minute, Mr. Manager. Wait a
minute, wait a minute. I cannot let him do that to us. Wait a minute. No,
no, no. You did not give up what you gave up on the strength of what Police,
Fire, and Sanitation gave or got or didn't get. You were negotiating only for
AFSCME, and you were concerned for AFSCME employees, and you argued for AFSCME
employees. You did not argue for Fire, Sanitation, and it's unfair for you to
try to make me think that.
Mr. Odio: Commissioner...
Mr. Cox: You're right, you're correct. But we also don't receive everything
else. That's why there's a barter.
Mr. Odio: Let me save some time. If the other unions, when - and we are in
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negotiations with two.of them now - ask for the... we will give them to them.
It's not a big deal.
Commissioner_ Dawkins: But Mr. Plummer said we got to go back and give them
something back.
Mr. Odio: Well, I don't know what happened in that negotiation, particularly.
Vice Mayor Plummer: I don't either, but I just know negotiations is you get
something, you give something.
Mr. Odio: Yes, but this is not a big...
Mayor. Suarez: You know, the transcript of this discussion is going to make
incredible reading. I have no idea what any of you have said. Now, can
somebody explain what it is you're expecting us to do or not do at this point?
Mr. Odio: Nothing at all.
Mayor Suarez: Vis a via, an existing... you don't need us to do anything?
Mr. Odio: No, sir.
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were not doing anything, which, presumably, preserves the status quo. z don't,
know -as to which employees...
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to have, he is correct, there were a few people that objected once the new
company came in. It was not based on race, or color or anything like that,
because the ones that objected most highly were Latins. OK? And that was in
the last meeting. The second thing is, I have asked those people if they're
more happy with Midwest to contact Midwest and to pay them directly. Midwest
refuses to do that. I personally put in a call. They will not take 'these
people and let them pay for it. Now, if you want me to parade the people down
here, I will. If you want me to parade the people down here, that were
dissatisfied, I will do that also.
Commissioner Dawkinst Do that. Do it, bring them down.
Mayor Suarez: No, Charlie, Charlie, I'm sorry I asked the question. My
understanding of it is no clearer now after you spoke than it was before the
prior discussion.
Mr. Coxt But you're giving everybody else something, the Mayor, as all...
Mayor Suarez: And if we're... I'm sorry?
Mr. Coxt You're giving everybody else something Is all I'm asking you to do
is give my people something.
Mayor Suarezt I saw an item up for discussion. I was told that we were told
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that : -a new bid would be prepared. I understood that the prior company was
there simply in a permissive way to deal with the unions and see which unions
wanted to sign them up. Now, I guess, we're doing a formal process of
competitive bidding. If that is the case, then I have no problem with it. So
far, no one in the Commission has raised any problem with it.
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Vice Mayor Plummer: I got to raise a question of why the City is a collection
agency for any private company. Mr. Manager?
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Mayor Suarez: Are we in any capacity collecting for anyone?
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Vice .Mayor Plummer: Sure we are. Sure, that's why they won't accept
individuals signing up without the City's involvement, because that's a
guaranteed source of income to them. And we're the collection agency. What
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are we getting out of it?
Ms. -Weller: We, at this point, we don't receive anything from it when that
goes into effect,
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Vice Mayor Plummer:- It cost us money to put a slot on the paycheck.
Ms. Weller: That's right, you have employees that have to key that
information in...
Vice 'Mayor Plummer: That's right. -
Ms. Weller: ...that those monies have to be relayed.
Vice Mayor Plummer: So why... I want to know why are we a collection agency
f-or private companies?
Ms. Weller: Well, Commissioner, you know, the hidwest, which originally came
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Vice Mayor Plummer: Forget about names.
Me. Weiler: All right, whatever, company...
Vice Mayon Plummer: I'm not concerned about that. I'm concerned about the
principle that we are the collection agency for individual profit making,
Compsnies. .l don't understand that,
Me. Weller: Well, you have one company that was negotiated, the slot wasko
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Vice Mayor Plummer: I'm questioning whether w4 should be in it, involved at
all.
Me. Weller: I don't think so.
Mayor Suarez: Yes, my understanding initially was that it was a permissive i4
thing. We would kind of approve the general concept of employees or unions
using a particular company, and we were not all the involved beyond that.
Just like Vice Mayor Plummer is saying. Now it appears that we're involved to f
the tune of somehow being part of the mechanism that collects it. I... j
Ms. Weller: If we go out to bid, then part of that, the REP, would. be that
there would be a charge on the part of the City for doing that.
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here.
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Vice Mayor Plummer: Yes, you know what that charge is? -15 cents.
Mayor Suarez: All right, well maybe we'll work on the charge before we issue
the REP. Thank you everybody. I'm not sure that... sir?
Mr. William Todd: May I speak to this question, please?
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Mayor Suarez: If momentum is on your side, by any chance, I don't recommend
it but...
Mr. Todd: Well, right now, I'm not sure.
Mayor Suarez: Give us the name and address.
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Mr. Todd: As I understand it...
Mayor Suarez: Give us your name and address, please.
Mr. Todds My name is William Todd, 299 Alhambra Circle, Coral Gables,
Florida.
Mayor Suarez: Very close to the City of Miami. If you'd just move a little
east, you'll be in...
Mr. Todd: I and my company Todd Raheen, we are presently the agents for the
plan that's in the City of Miami. And how this thing came to being here in
front of you today was a sudden change in procedures whereby one day your
�t people had the plan, the next day, your Labor Relations Officer cut them off z
without any. discussion or anything. You had over 400 of your people that,had
`., a legal services plan on IT December. On 20 December, your Labor Relations
people said,. "Not -you don't have it because you are in a_slot that you should
f not have been in. Well, I didn't put myself in the slot. That was the
City 's doing, because we have in front of us an agreement that was signed by
Mr. Dean Mielke that authorized us a payroll deduction.
Mayor Suarez: All right, I'm going to... OK, I'ru going to cut you off because
it continues to be totally unclear what anyboey is talking about here. I
would like to be briefed.`..
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r, 'Mr. Todd: I only have one other question, ifpc-ssible. t
Mayor Suarez: Ask the question.
Mr, Tod,ds When you mention that you're exempting managerial people will o
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out -for bid,' then you•have three other sets of people, groups of people, what
ri about those? Those people presently have the plan, Are you saying that they
Cannot' have this plan? -
Suarez I At, right, let's get'an'answer tv that question .I'm:.not sure.
thatiii i ultinnately clarify everything, butoertainly...
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Manager indicated] and
said they want it, then we'll give it to them. But
it will be as
part of the
bargaining process.
Commissioner Alonso: Can we open a slot for all the
employees?
If they want
to use it, then it can be done. Can we develop that
within the system? .. and
it could even...
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Mayor Suarez: Yes, even for nonunion employees?
Commissioner Alonso: If they want to do it? And just have
it and for
everyone in the City of Miami? If they want it, why
not?
Ray Irizarri, Esq.: Commissioner Alonso and
Commission,
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constitute, in my opinion, an improper and unfair labor practice
when you're
dealing withbargainingunit employees.
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Mayor Suarez: we're asking about nonunion employees
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thought.
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Mr. Irizarri: No, the question I think was addressed to union employees, all
employees. As to union employees, it would constitute, I think, an unfair
labor practice.
Mayor Suarez: We do it through the union. As co nonunion employees, can we
have a slot for them?
Mr. Irizarri: That was recommended. And that iv the recommendation.
Ms. Weller:. We're going to go on a bid process, and they will have a slot.
Mayor Suarez: OK, that answers Commissioner A:onso's question. All right,
we'll: be preparing this RFP in the next 60 days -..s stated.
Mr ,Todd: If the union people do not disagree -..;d do not oppose their members
Y. having this plan, is that still labor problem?
Mayor Suarez: No, if the unions agree, we certainly won't have an unfair
practice charge against us. All right. Thank you. The question answers
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12. BRIEF; COMMENTS, BY ,.COMMISSIONER ALONSO CONCERNING CLARIFICATION OF —_
EMPLOYMENT•_ STATUS OF- LIVIA GARCIA, Tr:E CITY'S HOMELESS PROJECT
4.. COORDINATOR (Note: This item was tabled until the afternoon session, but
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k Commissioner Alonso: Yes, Mr. Mayor, I have a..
Mayor Suarez: Yes?
Commissioner Alonso; I think there is a mhtcer that needs clarification
today. And it has to do with what I consider to be our homeless project
coordiAator,,Livia Garcia. At the meeting of Resolve last week, the question
xa came a0:to whether Miss Livia Garcia is, in fact, homeless project coordinator {
for the' City of Miami. And whether she is an employee of the City of Miami.
As far,;r s. I'm, concerned, I understood to be that she is a homeless project
coordinator. As a matter of fact, I was involves. in the process as for her to
epxesept 4P.•,And O my belief, that's -what the title that this Commission gave
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her,, and we had an agreement with DDA that will pay half her salary, and we
fey wi PAY .hail's Now :it has; come, as a problem in Resolve, and she was
9u3ationed the other day that whether she is City of Miami employee end
Wh th r:. she works #ter .the City ,of- Miami, became ,an issue. I think:if we don't
* �a 040S hoar the power to act in our behalf, I c .,in't think that Resolve oan
psibly.foaGion;in an a r-
pproprlate way, and.have a coordinator, a person that ;
w ba:Ciy. Qn rur:<_ b�eaii, with these groups, neighborhood organizations,
and�,lks, sndit�si A 40iat9oa to a Problem that I think it's of great
Mi ls? 4, = 0 wo: Ao#4 t9da" ; alutticatioa' from the ci
a ► k� r : Vhst tsri i L ►f a a�rvia an employee �- the City of Miat►i ? la My
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book, a person that receives a check from the
City of Miami has all benefits
that the regular employee has. To me, that
is an employee of the City of
Miami. But maybe I'm wrong. And if I am wrong, I'd like to know. And
secondly, I understood that if the City of Miami assigned a person as to be
the coordinator between Resolve and us and the entire major problem that we
already have with the homeless in the City of
Miami, that person is supposed
to be the homeless project coordinator. But
I'd like a clarification. And
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unless we do this, I don't think that she can
possibly function, and I don't
think that we can find long lasting solutions
:o a serious problem that we
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Mr. Odio: To clarify the record, what I tried
to explain to Anne Marie Adker
' and Don Benjamin, and maybe I...
Commissioner Alonso: Let's not involve Anne Marie Adker in this discussion...
Mr Odio: No, no, but...
Commissioner Alonso: ...because it is a discussion of the position of this
City of Miami...
Mayor Suarez: Yes, she hadn't come up so far, se...
Mr. Odio: No, OK...
Commissioner Alonso: ...and it has nothing to do with an individual.
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Commissioner Alonso: The problem came about, and I omit on purpose the name,
because it has nothing to do with one person or another.
Mr. Odio: Well...
Commissioner Alonso: But the fact that the City has to clarify.
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Mr. Odio: I will clarify. We have an agreement with the DDA and the DMBA
that` clearly states that the supervision of Livia Garcia would be held by
them.
Commissioner Alonso: Supervision.
Mr. Odio: And, therefore, that person doesn't work for me. If I don't have
supervision over that person, and any statements or any actions that she might
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take, I don't want any responsibility for it.
Commissioner Alonso: Mr. Manager, may I ask the question, why did you accept
that_the supervision of one of your employees is given to an outside?
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Commissioner: Alonso, It was up to you at that point to say, well, she will be
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a coordinator to work with you and with me...
Mr. Odio:` No...
Commissioner Alonso: ...but I cannot allow that the supervision of this>
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-Mr tidio: If I'm to..
'CQmmiaaioner Aionsas Do you pay from the City of Miami funds...
-Mr. 'Olio: pay half of the salary.'
Commissioner Alonso;•, All right.; Does she ha►e benefits from the City of
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Alonsoi that it...
Commissioner Alonao: Then it's a legal question. Is she an employee of the
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r Mayor Suarez: We have to define it.
Commissioner Alonso: Yes, she is.
Mayor Suarez: We have to define it.
Mr. Odio: > Then if... OK, let me make it clear then. If I'm to choose the
homeless coordinator, and that person is to work for me, I will have the right
to say who would be...
Mayor Suarez: That's correct.
Commissioner De Yurre: That is fair enough.
Commissioner Alonso: That's fine. We understand that. But wouldn't you
f. select the best person for the job?
' Mr..Odio: I would select the person that I felt would be the...
Commissioner Alonso: With the greatest experience, and a track record of good
experience.. Wouldn't you select that person?
Mr. Odio: I.would...
Commissioner'Alonso: And I'm not saying who are you to select. That's your
job, and I accept that as such.
Mr.;Odio: Well, what I'm saying...
Commissioner Alonso:. But ,wouldn't you select the best person for the job?
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Mr. --Odio:I would hope so.
Commissioner Alonsoe. OK.
Commissioner-De<Yurre: Explain to me, it...
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Mr.,Odio. ...it's a contractual really.
Commissioner= De Yurre:. ...or is it employee?
Mr: Odio: Let me tell you what I came about.
`{ Mayor:.Suarez: Well, wait now, wait, wait, wait. That's an interesting answer,
and:. an' interesting question. ` Js ';she contractual, and sort of working - for this
agency that's sort of..
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le i . off, {•aud tire' DMBA"said that they needed somuone to work with them and > the
haaaiess-' prblems In: -downtown Miami. I believe Commissioner Alonso at that
t dime worked out an agreement that they would pay half of the salary and we
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fact that Livia Garcia worked for the DMBA and the DDA, and that they would
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supervise her actions on a daily basis on whatever issues they wanted to deal
with in the homeless problems in downtown, And that the City would not have
anything to do with her daily actions.
Commissioner Alonso: Mr. Manager, I have to go back and say, when we give a
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contract to a person, we don't pay benefits. And in this case, it's very
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clear to the that this person is receiving benefits from the City of Miami.
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And I think it was important, and I think it has been established by this
Commission by the vote we took, that we felt that we needed a homeless project
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coordinator to work with us in a serious problem. I'm very confused, and I'd
like really to see your position in this.
Commissioner De Yurre: I'm confused too because if she is supposed to be...
if benefits is an issue as to whether she's an employee or not, then the
question is, is she receiving benefits that she should not be receiving
because'she's under contract as an independent agent?
Mr. Odio: Well, the agreement...
Commissioner De Yurre: And how come she's receiving benefits? -if that's the
case?
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Mr. Odioe The agreement is just like Matthew Schwartz has with the DDA.
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Matthew's salary is paid by the City of Miami, and we get reimbursed by the
DDA.
Commissioner Alonso: As a matter of fact, Matthew Schwartz is also an
employee of the City of Miami, and no one has ever questioned that.
Mr. Odio: Well, see, but technically he is in the payroll. On a day-to-day
basis he reports to the DDA board, and not to us.
Commissioner De Yurre: Is he under a contract?
Commissioner Alonso: Mr. Manager, I want you to know that if these two people
go to court, and want a clarification, the court is going to say in very clear
fashion that both are employees of the City of Miami.
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Mr.'Odio: But -technically they are...
Commissioner De Yurre: I'm getting back to the contract thing. Is there in a
contract for employment, or is there a cont:pact for services? Is she an
independent -agent, or is she an employee of some entity that we have now to
identify?""
'Mayor Suarez: wAnd then after we get that clarified legally, I'd like to know
what the Commission's preference is on this. Let's get on the table whether
we would like her, in fact...
Commissioner Alonso: I personally, would like to see Livia Garcia to be an
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employee of the City: of Miami. For us to be working with her, and for us to
have the line: of communication that is so much needed in this community as to
have a' homeless project coordinator. We have a
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and erha s maybe the problem' has been the line of communication. I
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community, neighborhood groups that come to me they tell me that for the first
tn►e ''we are 'addressing the problem, and we're trying to find long terra
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question that may have legal impact or remi.fir.ations, I would need to review
the contract that is in place between the DDA and the City of Miami to see
whether all of the issues of employment and of supervision and of benefits all
the things you've been discussing about, have been properly transferred...
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partly, is it a contract between the City of Miami and DDA. So DMBA is not in
the contract?
Mr. Fernandezi Yea, it is, DMBA is...
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Mr. Fernandez: Yes, it is. They're also party to the contract.
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Mr. Fernandez: Yes. It is Matthew Schwartz, James McDonald, and James
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between the three agencies were, and a flowing of DDA funds into the City for
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Commissioner De Yurre: Well, let's defer this till the afternoon.
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if you could.
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Vice Mayor Plummer: She's making $29,000 plus benefits?
Mr. Odio: Yes. We paid half of it, and they paid half of it.
Vice Mayor Plummer: I would like to see this afternoon when you come back,
what is she doing for that money? She's been in for over a year, correct?
Commissioner Alonso: No.
Mr. Odio: The year expires in September.
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between forty and forty-five thousand dollars. I'd like to see the,,j
justification.
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person has put not only an eight hour day, but she has put many, many hours...
Mr. Duke McBride: Absolutely.
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down on Sunday afternoon, it was an amazing single line track of grocery carts
that were going over to the park. It was amazing.
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Vice Mayor Plummer: So, I ask, what is being done in these so-called long
term solutions to find out what is the justification, because I don't see
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Mr. McBridet Duke McBride, 200 S.W. 25th Road. I'm a member of the Resolve
Board; and I've been volunteering upwards of 30 hours a week of my own time
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towards the efforts of Resolve. And I understand - and our homeowners group
is very active, and I just gave you a list of all the homeowners. Each of you
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a�list of all the homeowners, business people, a::d service providers that have
banded together in a consolidated effort to address this problem. I can fully
understand, and our position has always been, that the City of Miami should
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problem with the homeless. And we're trying to address that. And we've made
great efforts, and we've taken great steps to secure a site to open an intake
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evaluation center. We've received commitments from Barry University - who has
the -most comprehensive study on the homeless ever done down here - has
committed to us to man this intake center with doctoral social workers,
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doctoral'students who are social workers, to actually do this work. And this,
of course, so far has been at little to no cost to the City. And we're trying
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communication with the administration and with the Commissioners and the
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Atkins has enjoined conversation about the homeless and enforcement. So,
without delving into that...
Mayor Suarez: Well, I don't think he has enjoined conversation about the
homeless. -
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Mayor Suarez: The Manager obviously disagrees with me.
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off the ground in June...
Mayor Suarez: If -he -does, I hereby violate his :.njunction. I will talk about`
the homeless, all I want, risk going to jail,
Mr. McBride: Thank you.
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Mr. McBride: Well, great. Let me just..,
Mayor Suarez: You may inform him of that, cotnselor. Tell Judge Atkins I
hereby talk about the homeless, and I will be willing to j-
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judge, because there is an alternative to them loitering in our City parks...
Mayor Suarez: I sure hope so.
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Mr. McBride: No, sir,
Mayor Suarez: We were hoping outside the City.
Mr. McBride: No, no, our..:
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boundaries, that would be...
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Mayor Suarez: We're not deciding that today, w' re not deciding that.
Mr. McBride: I -know, our very...
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new hinking, which is to decentralize all of the care and housing of the
homeless..
Mr. McBride: And all of those persons on thsL list fervently support Livia
Garcia.- And I want to let the Commission know. ;
Mayor-'Suarez::.Great. She has great support, really.
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13. PERSONAL APPEARANCE: BISHOP CALVIN 0. SCHOFIELD, JR. CONCERNING
INCLUSION OF EPISCOPAL COMMUNITY DEVELOPMLNT LOAN FUND, INC.'$ FUNDING
REQUEST IN MINI-UDAG FUNDING PROGRAM.
Mayor Suarez: OK, Bishop Schofield, would you just make a quick statement,
and the item will not be Resolved this morning. I think in deference to you,
I know you've got a 10:30 deadline to go some place, and we're, of course,
honored to have you. This matter has been heard many times, and somehow
doesn't seem to get resolved.
Bishop Schofield: OK, my name is Bishop Schofield, and I work at 525 N,E.
15th Street. What I would like to do this morning, Mayor, is to just
reiterate what I wrote in my letter to you so that the people understand
clearly what the problem !(s. At the meeting of the City Commissioners on
April 26, 1990, the Commissioners passed unanimously the following motion
which was motion 90-322. "A motion instructing the City Manager to work with
Episcopal Community Development Loan Fund, Inc., to try to include its program
among those presently contained in the mini-UDAG funding program, subject to
the following provisions being met. One, that they comply with all federal
requirements. Two, that the Diocese of Southeast Florida give a letter of
guarantee as collateral for the loan, and three, that the City will not issue
any dollars until the agency's dollars are in the bank." The Episcopal
Community Development Loan Fund, Inc. has complied satisfactorily with all the
conditions set.out in the motion. We have $100,(00 in the bank, and we've had
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it in the bank for sometime. We are a 501C3, and are a nonprofit separate
corporation. The final contract was scheduled to come before the
Commissioners at its April 11, 1991 meeting, which is today, and now we are
told 1 that there is no money. It is well known that several projects were
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approved for funding from the same mini-UDAG acount after April 26, 1990, and
have all received the funding. It is hard to understand why at this late
stage, the Episcopal Community Development Loan Fund, Inc. is now told there
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is no money. And, therefore, we have placed this on the agenda for today.
And I just want to say, we have met all of the requirements that were
specified by the City Commission. I hope that you will act favorably on this.
Thank you.
Mayor Suarez: Thank you, bishop. I guess in the afternoon in connection with
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decision, but for myself, I'm going to want some answers as to why we_are
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derailing a. prior determination of this Commission, and I'm not sure this is
the appropriate time. If you want to make a quirk statement to that while the
bishop is here.
Mr. -Frank ,Castaneda: Up to you, Commissioners% Do you to discuss it now, or
later?
Mayor Suarez: Is it what I think it is that when the actual time came for
allocating the funds, you just didn't feel that it was as high a priority as,
other ones? Is that...
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Mr. Castaneda:. That's correct. And also, what they are asking is for
administrative funding of the agency. And that's really doesn't fit under the
mini-UDAG program.
Mayor Suarez: OK, so there's another aspect to it, I guess which has to do
with ,what we characterize an administrative use of the funds as opposed to,
brinks and mortar.
Mr. Don Benjamin:, Mr. Mayor, that has always been...
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Mr, Denj axino : .. .that was the request from the beginning, Certainly, `Don
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administration.
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Mayor Suarez: But I'm not sure that we necessarily did that. So we're going
to have further debate on this I have a feeling.
Commissioner Dawkins: ....this afternoon.
Mr. Benjamin: From the beginning, we said operational funds, from the very
first time the bishop came here and spoke.
Commissioner Dawkins: You know, but why would I sit up here and say I'm going
to give you operational funds to do what Miami Capital is doing? To do what
everybody also is doing, Ben?
Mr. "$enjamin: Well, we came here twice and tha•:.'s we said over and over and
over.
Commissioner Dawkins: OK, no problem, no problem.
Mayor Suarez: Since I remember a pledge of a two to one match, and all the
time I`was thinking that this would help -or thrre to one or one to one - and
I was 'thinking all the time that this would help in,the actual, yes - in the
actual funding of programs. And if that's not the case then...
Commissioner Dawkins: Not to create jobs for somebody to manage something.
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Commissioner Dawkins: Let's discuss this this afternoon with the rest of
them.
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Mayor Suarez: Yes, we're going to have to take it up at that point. We
wanted to take the bishop who was here.
Commissioner Dawkins: Yes, um hum.
€k Mayor Suarez. I see some of the TV stations leaving. I was wondering, I was
intrigued what was the excitement that was expected here today. There
'. certainly hasn't been any excitement up to now. Still intrigued as to why
F: you're all up there. If somebody has any clues on that, I'd be interested in
'knowing. Although we see some of them leaving now. ,
Commissioner- Dawkins Is that another one of the little participants? I
don't know, Mr. Mayor. The little lady there. Was she one of the
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14: DISCUSS 'AND TEMPORARILY TABLE PROPOSED RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING CLAIM
SETTLEMENTS TO THE ESTATES OF: (a) ALLAN 3LANCHARD ($500,000), AND (b)
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CLEMENT ANTHONY LLOYD ($500,000) (See label. 25).
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Suai a : Right. What do we need to hoar on this? -at the, rsquea.t of �
60i aslonor Dawkins.. AoQa, administration need to put anything on th-a. riso rat
en hfa Aoiea ti +a 'pity Attorney need to pout anythiaa8 ahe r'Wthis?
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Mayor Suarez: As exactly as before us on item 14. So what we need to do is
move item 14 as stated before us, or as included in the record?
Mr. Firtel: That was the recommendation of the Law Department, Mayor.
Mayor Suarez: Great, that's what we need to hear then.
Commissioner De Yurre: Well, based on what?
Mr. Firtel: Based upon discussion with the plaintiff's attorneys,
negotiations, variety of other matters of import, at cetera, at cetera.
Mayor Suarez: Considerations and policies. Commissioner De Yurre wants to
inquire, I guess, to get more specifics on that.
Commissioner De Yurre: Well, the thing is, when we're talking about a million
dollars, I think that the public deserves to know why we're settling for a
million dollars. You know, the basics, the legal ramifications. Why - you
just don't get up here and say, we recommend, and that's it. It doesn't work
that way.
Mr. Firtel: Mr. De Yurre, the vicarious liability question insofar as the
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City is concerned, is something that we cannot resolve without a jury trial in
this matter. And therefore, on that basis, we're recommending this
settlement.
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Vice Mayor Plummer: Mr. Mayor, my concern based
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settlements in :these cases, has been and will continue to be the minor
children. I need assurances which I don't have because what I have in front
of me is kind of on. the brief side for a million dollar settlement. Iare '
concerned that the bulk of the money is going to go for the minor. children. I
am also concerned that the guardians of those monies to protect the interest
of the children, are in place and will be court appointed. The settlement.'..
Mayor Suarez: Can we answer - can we get an answer on that particular point
because I think, all of us would be remiss... -
Mr. Firtel:. Right, right. Mr. Plummer...
Mayor, Suarez: ,..in not voting for this. I mean, in voting for this without
knowing in advance that the courts will be integrally involved in the process
of selecting guardians, at cetera.
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$500,000 original and a.million dollars total, I want to know how much is
actually going.
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will , be supervised via the counts. As a matter of fact, that's one of the
coatjAg9ncje4 th#t'a-included in the resolution as offered, that the 'courts
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fain aa.all, the cases are concerned, there are li beneficiaries if l'm
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Mr. Firtelt On the Blanchard side.,. on the Lloyd's side of the case, that's
correct.
Vice Mayor Plummer: No, that can't be....
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Mr. Firtel: You're talking present value versus payout, Commissioner Plummer.
Vice Mayor Plummer: You're talking about in fractioria, three-quarters. Now,
I want to know in allocation of hard dollars.
Mayor Suarez: How does the stream of...
Commissioner Dawkins: Let's hear from Jesse. See if Jesse can't clear this
up and cut through this.
Mayor Suarez: The settlement.
Commissioner Dawkins: Jesse, tell us how the settlement is structured, will
you please?
Jesse McCrary, Esq.: Members of the Commission, Mr. Mayor, as stated...
Commissioner Dawkins: Who are you? -don't nobody know you but me.
Mr. McCrary: My name is Jesse McCrary. I represent Rhonda Dorset, who is the
mother of Camelia Lloyd. In our case, all of the money... seventy-five
percent, Commissioner Plummer, of the monies is going to the minor children.
On the one side of the equation, there is $500,000...
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Mr..McCrary: Of that money, 75 percent of it goes to children, and that money
is being structured. It is a two part deal. The total benefits to the minor
child amounts to... in each instance, amounts to more than $250,000 over a
life span of 30 years. This will be approved by the court. It has no force
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of those children will have a spendthrift. The parents will not be in control
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Mr. McCrary: Of that amount, Commissioner, there is a deduction of attorney':
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Mr. McCrary: It's 25 percent, that's provided by statute. Remaining,
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Commissioner, is 'another $68,750 of that money will be taken to purchase a
structure controlled by the City of Miami.
Vice Mayor Plummert Wait a minute. A hundred and twenty-five thousand
dollars is the initial amount.
Mr. 'McCrary: Yes, sir.
Vice Mayor Plummert Of which approximately $30,000 come out for attorney
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Vice Mayor Plummer: That leaves me with -ninety-five.
Mr McCrary: -Yes, sir.
Vice Mayor Plummer: You're telling me of buying an annuity for sixty-eight.
Where is the other dollars going?
Mr. McCrary: <Commissioner, yes, sir, I'm prepared to answer that.
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where: a bank account will be set up for the minor child. Because the annuity
does not start until the year 1992.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Controlled by who?
Mr. -McCrary: Controlled by the court as determined by the court as to who
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Vice Mayor Plu=ar: What about the brothers and sisters?
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family.
Vice Mayor Plummer: When you say the Blanchard family, would you break that
down. Is that the mother, the...
Mr. Rubin: The Blanchard family consists of the mother and the father of Alan
Blanchard who met his untimely demise in January of 1989 at the hands of`a
City of Miami police officer. He left behind him, his mother and father and
four brothers and sisters, among nine brothers and sisters. The four brothers
-and sisters who are claimants in this case are those who are financially
dependent upon him for support and services during his life time. In other
words, the brothers and.sisters lived with him in his home. He worked, he
brought his'.pay;check home. The money that he :Wade went towards paying food
bills, the utility bills, the overhead of the expenses of the home.
j' Vice Mayor Plummer: Was he the sole support of the family?
Mr. Rubin: No, he was not. This is a family unit where many different people
contributed to the family support and services, as I said. In our case, the
i mother and father are each entitled to a remunefation from this case, as are
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Vice Mayor Plummer: OK, what...
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Mr. Rubin: Of the brothers and sisters, two are minors, two are not. They
all:have structured settlements, and the structured settlements for each are
different because of their age and group.
Vice Mayor Plummert Collectively, what is the amount of the initial $500,000?
Mr. Rubint`.What.will it pay out?
Vice Mayor Plummert No, what is their allocation of that monies?
Mr., Rubin:: Each of, the brothers and sisters is going to each is going to
receive nine percent of the total amount. The important fact...
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Vice-'Mayor-,Plummert Yes, sir. You' see, I'm looking at what Jessetold me,
each .one,of his ;groups ,:as an entity, will receive $125,000 of the original
$500,000. That's $500,000'::Just for his group. Now, where are the,,. is the
tee... other. moniesthat -_your recipients will be from the annuities of the second
hundred .°.$500,0001
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Mr. Rubin: In the case of my brothers and sisters, or thebrothers and
:Misters that I,represent they will receive payments on the anniversary of
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their lath, 30th,.And 35th birthdays. In other Lords, they will not take ,any
money .ztc>w; . Ally this money will be invested for them, so when they are of the
First of a11, none of them live in the Un.ted Skates. They all live in
roix�:.�J,,:. VirSiri` Islands They wilt. be. .. and they do live with the
��th�x, end the` mother is going to be provided... they all live in one home;
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and they will continue to live under her roof. They will, on the anniversary
of their 25th, 30thi and 35th birthdays receive lump sum settlement payments
from the annuity that will be purchased for them by the City of Miami.
Vice Mayor Plummer: And from that, is that the total $500,000?
Mr, Rubin: Yes. No, the total payout comes to $855,939.
Vice Mayor Plummer: But the City will only be putting up...
Mr. Rubin: Five hundred thousand.
Vice Mayor Plummer: And Mr. Manager, when does that money have to be put up?
Mr, Odio: We have to pay up by May 15, I think it is, two four hundred and
fifty thousand, and then after October and November, another half. In other
words, we break it up in two budget years.
Vice Mayor Plummer: But the total layout for the City amounts to $500,000 in
hard dollars now.
Mr. Odio: Four fifty now.
Vice. Mayor Plummer: OK. And then the annuities that will be bought will
amount to a total of what?
Unidentified Speaker: Five fifty.
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Vice Mayor Plummer: I assume your attorney fees are the same?
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Mr. Rubins, Attorney fees are subject to the client contract that we have.
They have not been established...
Commissioner Dawkins: -Kill that one. Kill that one right now.
Vice Mayor Plummer: No, I'm asking.
Commissioner Dawkins: No, no, no, J. L., no, no, no. When they sat in :my
office,- they told me that the client and the lawyers' fee was established by
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the State of Florida, by the courts. And now this gentleman is telling me'
something different...
Mr. `Rubin: No, I'm not.. No, I'm not.
Commissioner Dawkins: ..,that they have worked out a...
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Mayor, 5uarers-°Under the Sovereign Immunity Statute, ,I think it's under, it's
got to be court approved and it's specified by state law, counselor. And if
that's, not the case, we've got.a real problem here.
Mr. Rubin; As I was about to say, which I was cut off from, the contract that
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of Florida, and our contract will be in accord with what is proper and legal,
under .the- State of Florida,. in the federal courts, and within all of `the
Florida Statutes including 768.28 which specifically states that all causes of
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action which arise out of the negligence or misconduct of a police officer
within:the,state court claim are 25 percent.
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Mr. Rubins No, I'm saying... controlled by that and under that, yes, Not my
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interested that you don't get more.
Mr. Rubin: Right, that's correct.
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Mayor Suarers Thank you. We redefined it.
Mr. Firtel: And that has to be approved by the s;ourt under any circumstances.
Mayor Suarez: We restated it in different terminology, and got a clear
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Commissioner De Yurre: J.L., let me make something clear here a second. Mr,
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Mayor Suarez: Commissioner De Yurre.
Commissioner De Yurres The...
Vice:Mayor Plummer- I'm not finished, Mr. Mayor.
Commissioner De Yurre: The plaintiffs, they're petting a net of 75 percent of
the million dollars.
Mr. Rubino I could only speak for my clients.
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Commissioner De Yurre: Well, let's say on your ?calf.
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tacked on costs and things of that nature.
Mr. Rubin: Oh, no, there are costs associated with the prosecution of this
claim'.wh'ich the City has, in the negotiations, -has made the.responsibility'of
the plaintiffs to pay, and they will be paid out of the proceeds of the
settlement. Yes, definitely.
- Commissioner De Yurre: So then, what we're saying here is that the plaintiffs
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Mr: Firtel. Commissioner, :the attorney is going . to have to justify that . to
the Probate Court 'under any circumstances.
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r_ Commissioner Dawkins: Tell him yes or no. That's right, yes or no.
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Vice Mayor Plummer: Because,there's nothing to take to the Probate Court that
f this Commission doesn't approve it.
#� Mr. Firteli I understand that.
Vice <Mayor<Plummer: So, let's get it settled here right now, or let's get it
settled before we go to the Probate Court.
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egtatiate:their',fee for them with their -client..,
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Mayor Suarez: The Commission is concerned about how much net is going to ba
given to dependents and such. Are the costs..,
Mr. Firtel: My understanding,.,
Mayor Suarez: Are the costs from a formula as you know it, and presumably, we
.f we're approving today as part of this package, going to be deducted from the
total settlement and then the attorneys' fees get to calculate their
percentage or not?
Mr, Firtel: I think Mr. Rubin has to answer that question.
Mr. Rubint Mr. Mayor, if I may clarify the situation.
Mayor Suarez: You don't know that?
Mr. Rubin: Because Mr. Leon Firtel is not...
Mayor Suarezt You don't know that?
Mr. Rubin: ..,in possession of any information that would...
Mayor Suarez: All right, counselor then, you're not necessarily involved in
discussing what Mr. Firtel knows or not. From your perspective, are your
costs off the top? Do they come off the total settlement before the
percentage of attorneys' fees are applied? Yet: or not.
Mr. Rubin: The answer is no. The attorneys' contingent fee percentage is
calculated based on the gross settlement proceeds and then costs are deducted
and then what remains is paid to purchase an annuity or in a lump sum
settlement.
Commissioner. Dawkins: I will not vote for that, Mr.... I personally, will not
vote for that, Mr. Mayor.
Mr. .Rubin: That is the standard in the State of Florida, and the United
States of America.
Mayor Suarez: OK, you answered a question.
Commissioner De'Yurre: Let me ask you, what are the costs? -so we're going to
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Mayor'Suarez:- Do we have any indication the costs are high? That's the 'next
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Mr. Firtel: -'The costs are very minimal from what I understand.-
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Mayor Suarez: -Thank you.
Vice Mayor Plummer: You see..,
Commissioner De YurresWell,what are...
Mayor Suarez: Would y you say very minimal? Can you give us a ball park
=; figure,`- counselor?
w Mr. Rubins -I can
;. Mayor Suarers I'm sorry, the City Attorney, if you know. Do you know?
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Mayor Suarez: OK, you don't know?
Mr. "V-rte"is" vhave an idea, but if Mr. Rubin is willing to answer the
quipation..:
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the Lloyd family. I could tell the Commission that on our case, the coats
that we encountered were approximately $10,000. Now, although I have to agree
that I believe under the state law and accepted policies, costs are taken out
in addition to legal fees. I do believe that. But in our case, I want...
Mayor Suarez: But why do we need to restate that?
to know right now whether this is going to affect
great deal or not.
Mr. Graff:
clear...
The Commission just wants
the mathematical formula a
Mr. Mayor, in our particular case, just so the Commission is
Commissioner De Yurre: You're going to waive the costs.
Mr.°Greff: We are waiving the cost because it adds to the settlement.
Commissioner:De Yurre: All right, that's it.
Mr. Graff: In our case.
Commissioner De Yurre: That's it.
Vice Mayor Plummert Look, Mr. Mayor, here's where...
Mayor Suarez: All right, as to half of the total settlement, we've got a
waiver of cost by one group.
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Commissioner De Yurre: OK.
Vice Mayor Plummer: All right, here's where I'm coming from. With Mr.
McCrary's group of four people, I can pinpoint, OK? They getting a $68,000
annuity. They're getting roughly $25,000 in an immediate bank account. And
approximately $3.0,000 in attorney fees. Or roughly, the hundred and twenty-
five thousand per group unit that you represent. Now, that's easy for me to
figure: OK?
Mr. McCrary: Yes, sir.
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Vice -Mayor Plummer: That the kid is getting, sixty-eight, and twenty-five, is
ninety-three dollars roughly, for round numbers. To that is fair. They
are getting the bulk of the money,.which is what is my concern. Now, in the
other case, it's not that clear, and I am asking for those numbers to be put
on .;the, table. ;. The, second point will address, which is, who will be
responsible for those funds. You're telling me that a court appointed will be
set up. Are we talking about, as I know it, a trust account, through a bank?
Is there going to -be through, what? My concern, and I have seen in, the past,
that,, this money becomes available, and overnight, this money disappears, and
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the kids are out there hanging, because nobody was there to protect them.
Mr. Firtel: Mr. Commissioner, let me answer the second part first. OK? The
way this thing, is :.structured, is. a contract, it's a contractual relationship,
the City pays "x" number of dollars in November, and there is a set pay out as
to how -:it's, done, , period, , ,
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Mr, . f'irtel: It's half of five fifty, it's two seventy-five, goes into an
i�au yron the Blanchard side.
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hard cash?
Mayor Suarez: And clarify in the process if you would, how many are actually
minor dependents, and how many are not.
Mr. Mark Rubin: Sure. I'd be happy to.
Mayor Suarez: It should be a fairly simple answer.
Mr. Rubin: Althea Eddy, who is fifteen year of age, she is going to be
receiving at the age... this may take a while. At the age of twenty-five, she
is going to take fifteen thousand dollars ($15,000). At the age of thirty.,.
Commissioner Dawkins% OK, hold it. If this is going to take a while, I move
that this be... go back and held in its regular order, and we do not
inconvenience people, because he is taking so long. I move that this be held
= at the regular time, Mr. Mayor.
Mr, Rubin: Well I can...
Mayor Suarez: .The matter was being considered at the request of Commissioner
Dawkins. I am not going to inquire into that counselor. Commissioner Alonso,
I think, has indicated, she is not going to inquire into it. If you want to
privately brief additionally Commissioners in the next couple of hours,
including possibly some minutes at lunch, you may do so. Then they may want
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to put in the record remaining concerns if any, or reasons for voting for, or
against, as of course, is their right.
Commissioner Dawkins: OK. While they are brief me Mr. Mayor, I'd like for
the City Attorney to brief me and tell me if there is any way we can approve
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half of this...
Mayor Suarez: OK. Please...
Commissioner Dawkins: ... the group that I might be satisfied with, and
disapprove the other group.- I need to know that.
Mayor Suarez: Please also, consider the implications of that situation.
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Mr. Rubin: Mr. Mayor, I have an appointment in another court between 12...
Mayor Suarez: Not concerned about that, we are not concerned about that. You
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Mr. :Rubin: No, I am going to come back. I am just asking a scheduling
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Mr. Rubin; I am just saying, can we...?
Mayor Suarez: OK. We will not take you until...
Mr. Rubin: -Between 12e00 p.m.:and 2:00 p.m., I'll be gone.
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Commissioner Dawkins: No, we don't... we are going to lunch from 12a00 p.m.
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15. EMERGENCY ORDINANCE: AMEND 10021, WHICH ESTABLISHED INITIAL RESOURCES
AND APPROPRIATIONS FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT TRUST FUND - PROVIDE FOR INCREASE
OF $370,000 AS RESULT OF ADDITIONAL MONIES DEPOSITED DUE TO SUCCESSFUL
FORFEITURE ACTIONS.
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Mayor Suarez: All right, item 3. Amending Ordinance No. 10021, initial
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forfeiture actions. This just adds the money into the fund at this point,
doesn't allocate it?
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Commissioner Alonso: Yes.
Mayor Suarez: I'll entertain a motion on it.
Commissioner Alonso: Yes, I so move.
Mayor Suarez: So moved. Second.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Let me ask a question on behalf of Commissioner Dawkins'
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Mayor Suarez: Give the reason for the ordinance when you read the ordinance,
and after you answer the Vice Mayor's questions.
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Vice Mayor Plummer: Does this money have to go into that fund, or is the
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Commission, if we are so disposed, to place it in another fund?
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Commissioner Alonso: Can we do that?
Mr. Fernandez: Has to go into this fund.
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Mr. Odio: By law. .
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Vice: Mayor Plummer: Then why is it even brought before us?
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Mr. Fernandez: Because...
Commissioner Alonso: We accept monies..
Mayor Suarez: Couldn't we find a way to do it directly in the future?
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Mr.Fernandez: Because to be spent, your vote is necessary, and you can...
Mayor Suarez: But we are going to have another vote later to allocate it.
It!ll`be really nice if we didn't have to have a vote, just to set up a fund
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Mr, Fernandez;: But cannot spend monies without first having appropriated it.
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.Y Mayor Suarez:. :If you could.coms up with a simpler system, we would really
�. appreciate it.i We. have ,a motion and a second. Give the reason for the
7 emergency. Read the ordinance;;.please.
AT THIS -POINT, THE CITY ATTORNEY READ THE ORDINANCE INTO THE
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Lt. Joseph Longueira: Probably about two million, sir.
Vice Mayor Plummer: About two million dollars ($2,000,000)? And how much of
that two million is restricted?
Commissioner Dawkins: None.
Lt, Longueira: It's all restricted by law, and it says, how you can spend it,
Vice Mayor Plummer: No, no, no. Is there any of that money pledged for any
particular project?
Lt. Longueira: Oh, yes. Almost all of that money that's appropriated is
pledged to projects. There is probably, maybe about sixty thousand that's
not.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Would you give me a breakdown of the entire fund, please?
Lt. Longueira: Yes. I'll bring it to you.
Mayor Suarez: Give the reason for the emergency.
Mr. Odioa The reason is that, to ensure that funds are available for the
payment of expenses on projects now being considered for Commission approval.
Mayor Suarez: Call the roll.
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN EMERGENCY ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE NO. 10021,
ADOPTED ON JULY 18, 1985, AS AMENDED, WHICH
ESTABLISHED INITIAL RESOURCES AND INITIAL
APPROPRIATIONS FOR THE LAW ENFORCEMENT. TRUST FUND
RECEIVED AND DEPOSITED PURSUANT TO ORDINANCE NO. 9257,
ADOPTED APRIL 9, 1981, TO PROVIDE FOR AN INCREASE IN
THE AMOUNT OF $370,000 AS A RESULT OF 'ADDITIONAL
MONIES DEPOSITED IN SAID FUND DUE TO SUCCESSFUL
FORFEITURE ACTIONS; CONTAINING A REPEALER PROVISION
_ AND SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.
Was introduced by Commissioner Alonso and seconded by Commissioner'De
Yurre,"' for. adoption as an -emergency measure and dispensing with the
requirement of reading same on two separate day:s, which was agreed to by the
following vote:
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AYES: Commissioner Victor De Yurre
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Miriam Alonso
Vice Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
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Whereupon the 'Commission on motion of Commissioner Alonso and seconded
by Commissioner De�Yuxre, adopted said ordinance by the following votes
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Aitss Commissioner Victor De Yurre
Commissioner Mi11er J. Dawkins
Commissioner: Miriam ,Alonso
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Vise" Mayor 3. L;' Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
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The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record And
announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commission and
to the public.
16. SECOND READING ORDINANCE: AMEND 10782 [CIPJ - INCREASE APPROPRIATION
FOR: (a) GRAPELAND STORM SEWERS - PHASE I, (Project 352188 - $500,000),
(b) GRAPELAND STORM SEWER - PHASE II, Project 352266 $500,000), AND
(c) CITYWIDE LOCAL DRAINAGE PROJECTS - FY 191-192 (Project 352275 - $1.0
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MILLION) - ALL INCREASES FROM STORM SEWER GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND FUNDS.
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Mayor Suarez: Item 4.
Commissioner Alonso: Move.
Mayor Suarez: Moved.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Second. Any discussion? If not, please read the ordinance.
Call the roll.
AN ORDINANCE -
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTION ONE OF ORDINANCE NO.
10782, ADOPTED SEPTEMBER 27, 1990,_ AS AMENDED, THE
CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT APPROPRIATIONS ORDINANCE, BY
INCREASING THE APPROPRIATION FOR GRAPELAND STORM
SEWERS -PHASE 1, PROJECT NO. 352188, IN THE AMOUNT OF
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.$500,000; INCREASING THE APPROPRIATION FOR GRAPELAND
STORM SEWERS - PHASE II, PROJECT NO. 352266, IN THE
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AMOUNT OF $500,000; INCREASING THE APPROPRIATION FOR
CITYWIDE LOCAL DRAINAGE PROJECTS-FY191-FY192, PROJECT
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NO. 352275, IN THE, AMOUNT OF $1.0 MILLION; SAID
INCREASES FOR ALL THREE PROJECTS COMING FROM STORM
SEWER GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND FUNDS; CONTAINING A
REPEALER PROVISION AND A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.
Passed on its first reading by title at the meeting of March 14, 1991,
was taken 'up for its second and final reading by title and adoption. On
motion of Commissioner Alonso, seconded by Vice Mayor Plummer, the Ordinance
was thereupon given its second and final reading by title and passed and
adopted by the following vote:
AYES:Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Miriam Alonso
Vice Mayor`J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES:` None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Victor De Yurre
*NOTE 'FOR'THE RECORD: ALTHOUGH ABSENT DURING ROLL CALL, COMMISSIONER DE YURRE
REQUESTED OF THE CLERK TO BE SHOWN AS VOTING YES ON THE MOTION.
THE'ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO. 10866.
The City °Attorney' read the ordinance into the public record and
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17. (A) SECOND READING ORDINANCE: ACCEPT GRANT ($85,261) FROM DADE
COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD - ESTABLISH NEW SPECIAL. REVENUE FUND: SCHOOL
RESOURCE OFFICER PROGRAM.
(B) VICE MAYOR PLUMMER REITERATES HIS CONCERNS OVER WASTEFUL AND
INAPPROPRIATE USE OF SWORN POLICE OFFICERS AS SCHOOL CROSSING
GUARDS.
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Mayor Suarez: Item 5. Accepting the grant, second reading.
Commissioner Alonzo: Move. -
Mayor Suarez: Moved.
Vice Mayor Plummer: I'll second it for discussion.
Mayor Suarez: Seconded.
Commissioner Dawkins: OK. I'll move that J.L. Plummer move outside with his
cigarettes.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Shut up. Question. Mr. Manager, this token payment of
eighty-five thousand is how much of what the City actually expends on behalf
of School Resource Officer Program?
rMr. Longueira: Sir, our operational cost is seven hundred and ten thousand
dollars ($710,000) a year. This money is not for that. This is for
additional items to help the program. We intend to use it for additional
f, training for the DARE (Drug Abuse Resistance Education) program, the officer
that go in to the school and teach DARE anti -drug, DARE supplies. We would
like to buy a robot that does crime prevention presentations, and use it to
get a van to transport kids to activities - all involved.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Is that all within the City of Miami?
Lt. Longueira: Yes. This is just our program.
Commissioner Dawkins:- And you'll get all of that out of eighty-five. thousand
dollars ($85,000)?
Hr., Longueira: Yes, sir. As a matter of fact, what I am telling you there,
actually totals up to sixty-four. The balance to the eighty-five, we haven't
come up a full budget yet, and when we do, we will bring that back to you.
Vice Mayor Plummere -My question every year at budget is the same. The School
Board has the right of ten mills, -the same as the City and the County. They
are the direct beneficiaries, why are they not paying this tab? Likewise,`
with the school crossing guards. Why isn't the School Board paying that tab?
So*�.;much does the school crossing guards, which is costing us a small fortune,
and Mr. Manager, I want to bring to your attention again, that you are still'
using sworn officers :at.the school crossing guards, which you are taking out
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of service for three to four hours a day, which was assured by this Commission
that it wouldn't happen How much does the school crossing guards cost?.-
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Mr. Longueira: Commissioner, I don't have that, but that's paid through a
surcharge that we receive. That is not paid frost the "general fund.
Vice Mayor Plummer: ,All right then, let's go back to the seven hundred
thousand dollars ($700,000) of the School Resenrce Officers. You have what, ,
Approximately twenty officers that are tied up oa that on a full-time basis? Y,
Kr. Lontuoiras I don't believe there is that many, sir. I don't have the
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When they needed a security system of their own, they came in and the paid
.'` for it, why aren't they'paying for the School Resource Officers? i think that
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' I guess, the Mayor to request for theta to work with us on it.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I truthfully believe, that if we press the
School Board, that they have that responsibility to provide under their
taxation, the same as under our taxation.
Mayor Suarez: To do that I would appreciate, Lieutenant, and Mr. Manager,
maybe an analysis of funds flown back and forth in connection with this school
crossing effort, and yes, I think we ought to make that presentation to them
and request greater participation on their part.
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that letter, that if they don't pick up what I feel is rightfully theirs,
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don't come back to this Commission asking for anything.
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Mayor Suarez: And we can demand more than a request.
Rice Mayor Plummer: Thank you, sir.
Mayor Suarez: Thank you. OK. On item 5, accepting the grant.
Rice Mayor Plummer: It's an ordinance. Did you read it?
Mayor Suarez: Call the roll.
AN ORDINANCE -
AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ACCEPT A
GRANT IN THE AMOUNT OF $85,261 FROM THE DADE COUNTY
SCHOOL BOARD; ESTABLISHING A NEW SPECIAL REVENUE FUND
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ENTITLED: "SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICER PROGRAM" AND
j; APPROPRIATING FUNDS THEREFOR IN THE AMOUNT OF $85,261
CONSISTING OF A GRANT FROM THE DADE COUNTY SCHOOL
BOARD; CONTAINING A REPEALER PROVISION AND A
j SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.
Passed on its first reading by title at the meeting of March 14, 1991,
was taken up for its second and final reading by title and adoption.
On
motion of, Commissioner Alonso, seconded by Vice Mayor Plummer, the Ordinance
was thereupon given its second and final reading by title and passed
and
adopted by.the following vote:
t AYES; Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Miriam Alonso
i. Vice Mayor J..L. Plummer, Jr.
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Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
.• NOES; None,
ABSENT; Commissioner Victor De Yurre `
THE ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO. 10867.
The City Attorney, read the., ordinance into the public record
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anaqunced that, copies were available to the members of the City Commission
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18. (A) RECONSIDER 10841, WHICH HAD AUTHORIZED ERECTION OF FENCE ACROSS
NATOMA STREET, TA-LU-CAA DRIVE AND ALATKA STREET AT INTERSECTION
WITH SOUTH DIXIE HIGHWAY. (Note: Immediately thereafter
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ordinance as 10868.)
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(B) SECOND READING ORDINANCE: AMEND CODE SECTION 54-11 - ERECT FENCE
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ACROSS NATOMA STREET, TA-LU-GA DRIVE AND ALATKA STREET AT
INTERSECTION WITH SOUTH DIXIE HIGHWAY - PROVIDE, AS ALTERNATIVE
MEASURE, THAT A WALL MAY BE CONSTRUCTED BY THE CITY, SUBJECT TO
THE CONDITION THAT CONSTRUCTION SHALL NOT COMMENCE UNTIL
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Mayor Suarez: Item 6.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Move it.
Mayor Suarez: Moved.
Commissioner Alonso: Second.
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Mayor Suarez: Second. Any Discussion? If not, please read the ordinance.
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Vice Mayor Plummer: We have to insert a date, is that correct? -
Mr. Fernandez: Yes, that's right.
Vice Mayor Plummer: What is that date?
Mr. Luis Prieto: .Whatever you want. I think maybe ninety days could be an
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Vice Mayor Plummer: OK. So ninety days would be July 4?
Mr. Prieto: That's good. Very patriotic.
Commissioner Alonso: What a beautiful day.
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1 Mr. Fernandez: On this item, Mr. Mayor, before you pass it, you actually have
to first 'move to reconsider what was supposed to have been second and final
reading which was had on February 14th, before you can then actually again
#�a pass 'and'consider`this ordinance with the way it reads, with the date included
1 in it. The reason we are coming to you with this, is because we need a date
i certain.
Mayor Suarez: All right
Mr. Fernanders And in order to accomplish this technically, first you need a
motion,to reconsider.
Mayor.Suarez; Do whatever you need. Move to reconsider...
Vice Mayor Plummer: I so move.
^. Mayor Suarez: y .....and seconded by Commissioner Alonso who perceptively moved
The following motion was introduced by Vice Mayor Plummer, who moved its
adoption:
MOTION NO. 91-268
A MOTION TO RECONSIDER PRIOR VOTE ON ADOPTION OF
SECOND READING ORDINANCE 10841 (ADOPTED FEBRUARY 14,
1991) WHICH HAD AUTHORIZED THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC
WORKS TO PLACE AND ERECT A FENCE ACROSS NATOMA STREET,
TA-LU-GA DRIVE AND ALATKA STREET AT THEIR INTERSECTION
WITH SOUTH DIXIE HIGHWAY.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Alonso, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote%
AYES: Commissioner Victor De Yurre
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Miriam Alonso
Vice Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES None.
ABSENT: None.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Now I move item 7.
Mayor Suarez: Now, on the motion on chief, all right.
Ms. Matty Hirai: OK.
Mr. Fernandez: And I need a date.
Commissioner Alonso: Seven?
Mr. Fernandez:
Mayor Suarez:
Item 6.
Somebody give us a date, please.
Commissioner Alonso:
Six, seven is wrong.
Vice Mayor Plummer: I'm sorry, item 6.
Mayor;Suarez: OK. So moved and...
Mr. Fernandez: All we need from this Commission then,
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Mayor Suarez: Somebody...
Vice Mayor Plummer: July 4th.
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Commissioner Alonso: July 4th.
i Mr. Fernandez: Of nineteen ninety...
Mayor Suarez: One.
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L;o=iasioner Alonso: One.
Mayor Suarez: All right, with the date included, we
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AN ORDINANCE -
,AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTION 54-17 OF THE CODE OF THE
CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA, AS AMENDED, THEREBY
AUTHORIZING THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS TO PLACE AND
ERECT A FENCE AT CITY EXPENSE ACROSS NATOMA STREET,
TA-LU-GA DRIVE AND ALATKA STREET AT THEIR RESPECTIVE
INTERSECTION WITH SOUTH DIXIE HIGHWAY FOR THE
ENHANCEMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY BY PROHIBITING PEDESTRIAN
ACCESS AT SUCH LOCATIONS; FURTHER, PROVIDING THAT AS
AN ALTERNATIVE MEASURE, A WALL MAY BE CONSTRUCTED BY
THE CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA, AT ANY OR ALL OF SUCH
INTERSECTIONS SUBJECT TO THE CONDITION THAT
CONSTRUCTION OF THE WALL(S) SHALL NOT COMMENCE UNTIL
SUCH TIME AS NEIGHBORS HAVE PLACED ALL FUNDS NECESSARY
TO PAY FOR CONSTRUCTION OF THE WALL(S) ON DEPOSIT WITH
THE CITY OF MIAMI WITH THE DATE OF JULY 4, 1991 BEING
ESTABLISHED AS THE DEADLINE DATE FOR SUCH DEPOSIT(S);
CONTAINING A REPEALER PROVISION, SEVERABILITY CLAUSE
AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
Passed on its first reading by title at the meeting of February 14,
1991, was taken up for its second and final reading by title and adoption. On
motion of Plummer, seconded by Commissioner Alonso, the Ordinance was
thereupon given its second and final reading by title and passed and adopted
by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Victor De Yurre
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Miriam Alonso _
Vice Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
THE ORDINANCE WAS DESIGNATED ORDINANCE NO. 10868.
The City Attorney read the ordinance into the public record and
announced that copies were available to the members of the City Commission and
to the public.
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19. DISCUSS AND CONTINUE CONSIDERATION OF PROPOSED SECOND READING ORDINANCE
AMENDING CODE SECTION 50-2, PROVIDING FOR ENLARGED BOUNDARIES OF
G'. PROTECTED / RESTRICTED ANCHORAGE AREAS W:THIN DINNER KEY MARINA YACHT
AREA BASIN AND BAYFRONT PROHIBITIVE ANCHORAGE AREA (MIAMARINA BAYFRONT
PROHIBITED ANCHORAGE AREA) (Continued to ,April 25th).
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Mr. Odio: On item 7, Mr.- Mayor.
Mayor Suarez: Yes, that's withdrawn?
Mr. Odio.; 1111 like to•continue it.
Mayor Suarez: Continue item 7, you need a motion on that to continue?
Ift. Odi.o: Yes.'
Qm;aisiaaer Algnsos so move.
Mayor Suarez; $o moved. SpcOnd. Any discussion? If not, call the roll.
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(A) DISCUSSION CONCERNING STREET VENDORS - REQUEST CLARIFICATION
FROM ADMINISTRATION CONCERNING VENDOR AREA ASSIGNMENTS IN
GENERAL.
(B) EMERGENCY ORDINANCE: AMEND CODE CHAPTER 39 (SIDEWALK AND STREET
VENDING) - PROHIBIT OPEN FLAME COOKING CITYWIDE.
(C) DEFER PROPOSED FIRST READING -ORDINANCE CONCERNING CODE CHAPTER
39 (SIDEWALK AND STREET VENDING): (a) CLARIFYING INTENT AND
ESTABLISHING NEW MIAMI ARENA SPECIAL VENDING DISTRICT, AND (b)
ADDING NEW SECTION 39-17.4: LIMITATIONS WITHIN MIAMI AREA
SPECIAL VENDING DISTRICT (Defer to May meeting).
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Mayor Suarez: All right, item 8.
Mr. Odio: On item 8, Mr. mayor.
Mayor Suarez: It seems like we are bound to be shown on the TV, whether we
grant to or not.
Mr.' Odio: I'll, like to put on the record that I received a letter from
Joaquin Avino and.,.
Mayor Suarez: County Manager?
Mr. Odio: L County Manager - in support of the ordinance. He finalizes in the
letter-by„saying "in the-interest.of our passengers, and the transit system, I
` hope the City will be successful in implementing the responsible regulations
to control this potentially hazardous situation around the station."
Mayor Suarez: 'OK. So ordered into the record. Are you about to play some
sort of L a video for us to further familiarize us with something that we are
extremely familiar with already?
Mr: Luis Prieto: Go., ahead. ,
Mayor Suarez:' God knows why.
Mr. Fernandez: While you see that Mr. Mayor, just a point of reference. Item
number.71 'Mro, Mayor.
Mayor Suarers Yes.'
Mr. .Fernandez: item number 7 was continued. It needs to be continued to a
date certain, please.
Mayor 8uarazc Ialways thought that's the way it should have been, but we n
weren't ;given one,
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} Mayer : Suaarezi ". AK: _ City_ -Clerk, please note that_ the intention of this
Conmaiasioa is 0.0 atinuing item 7, was to April 25th. Do we need to
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Vies Mayor Plummer= With the amount of money he makes, why not?
Mayor Suarez: With both feet and arms, and heads, and everything else, We
will get into it if we want.
Mr. Odio: OK.
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Coioissioher Alonso: 'Yes, t guess so.
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Commissioner Dawkins: OK, what are you showing it to me for?
Mayor Suarez: No _. p , you are not allowed to. By order of the court... you, you a
can rase it
Commissioner Alonso: I can see that we have to send the Solid Waste
Department to do some clean up in the area.
Mayor Suarezt Why don't you show it to them. We are -fairly familiar with it.
Commissioner Dawkins: 'Turn it around, we are familiar with it. Turn it
around.
q Mayor Suarezt We are pretty familiar with it, Jim. -
Mr. Joel Maxwells Mr. Mayor.
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;. Mr: Maxwell t What you are looking at right now, is a tape that was made on
March 28th that didn't...
Commissioner Alonso: Well, now we don't see it.
Mayor Suarez: March 28th? Why do you kind of... yes, that's it, there you
go:
ffr.t Maxwell: This tape was made on March 28th 1991. It illustrates the
Vending conditions around the Miami Arena, specifically those conditions
adjacent,to the Overtown Arena Metrorail Station.
Mayor Suarez: How many vendors were found there at the time? - which would be
a statistic'useful-at this point, rather than... please, please.
Mr. Maxwell: At that time, there were between twenty-five and thirty vendors
in,that'area-right 'there. In that area that you see.
Mayor, Suarez: It does give the impression of a sort of a outdoor open market
ther"e, yes Of, course, on the other hand, I am not sure that that's all�that -
bad
Mr. Maxwell: Well, that area right there is the area... the area that you are
looking at, is the % area" where the majority of the people using the metrorail
that are... County Commissioner, Joaquin Avino referenced in the memo that
City' -Manager just read. They passedthat area right there, which :is
approximately,an=area twenty by twenty feet in size.
Vice Mayor.Plummer What the hell... r;
Mr:`.,..Maxwella' The tape speaks; for itself, but you probably have observed open
flame cooking. We have been informed that beer sales are made there as well.
It'his+`atbizarre look as you can see, very similar to that...
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Mr. Maxwell: No, sir, they are not.. ,
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whatever. 'That" is a horrendous looking item there that somebody is using to
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Mayor Suarez: OTC. Would that be legal under existing law?
Mr. Maxwell: It depends on whether or not it come.., under existing law at
that site, it is legal.
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Maxwell: However, the ordinances proposed would prohibit open flame
000k.ing as in the other restricted districts.
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Mayor, Suarez:, Is that what you refer to as open flame cooking?
Mr. Maxwell: Where the flame is visible, or smoke is visible, yes.
Commissioner Alonso: Why is it legal at that location, and not in other
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M'r'..Maxwell= Because you have not prohibited that activity in that location.
Mayor Suarez, She asked legal. Why is it legal?
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i!ior Suarez: You said it was legal there now.
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7 Mr. Maxwell: It's legal because there is no prohibition on open flame.
Mayor,Suarez: Why, is it illegal in other parts?.
Commissioner. Alonso: So, you mean, I.can do it in any corner of the City of
Miami?
_ Mr. Maxwell: Excuse me?
Commissioner Alonso: Can -I do it in any corner of the City of Miami? Can I
use gas, and start cooking anywhere in the City of Miami?
Mr Maxwell:. Maxwell:::,,Except. in those areas, restricted districts that you have
prohibited it, that's correct.
Mayor Suarez: In other words, anyone of can decide to start doing our cooking
outside our .homes, instead ,of inside the house. You just go over to the
corner, and just light it up, and...
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other than.in a restricted district -,that, prohibits that,. and that is something
that".you should address. _
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;.. kinds of regulations, we haven't.
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Mr. Odio: Yes. We had an incident in Carnival Miami Night, in the sidewalk
in front of the Orange Bowl where a handicapped person in a wheelchair got
burned riding by one of these open flame pits, and we had to at that moment...
I was there, I had to go outside and we moved them - all the vendors away from
that sidewalk. It is dangerous.
Mayor Suarez: On April 3, 1991, apparently, an incident did occur, someone
i got hurt by some heating device, or grid device, or metal device that was
being used by one of the vendors, and I would like the record to reflect this
letter from a Jerry Price, a nicely worded letter, he doesn't seem like a
hysterical person trying to create something that didn't happen, although it's
1 just an allegation at this point, unless we have any kind of...
i Mr. Maxwell: Mr. Mayor, we would also like the record... the tape that you
just saw to be introduced into the record, please.
Mayor Suarez:The tape also into the record. The tape is illustrative for
people who haven't come into the arena from the north side. I guess I usually
come in from the south side.
Dice Mayor Plummer: Let me ask a question of the City Attorney, or the
Manager, ,or both, We were told by the stadium manager of the Orange Bowl,
that ::at one time, one event last year, and I don't recall which one it was,
that: -:they counted over four hundred vendors...
Mr.. Odio: That's correct. Hurricane games.
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Vice Mayor Plummer: ... at that event. Now, if you have twenty-five vendors
here, . and you are concerned about that, and I am concerned about it, why are
we not addressing the same safety problem at the Orange Bowl, in which.there
were like four hundred vendors.
Mr..Maxwells Well, we attempted to address that issue before the Commission,
September of 1989 and we were struck down, Mr. Vice Mayor. That is of great
concern._ to this City. We did attempt to bring that to the Commission's
attention.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Well, can we bring it back up?
Mr• Kaxwell: Yes sir, you can.
vice ;.Mayo r Plummer: I'll move that as soon as this issue is decided.
_ Mr.. Odio: I don't think you want to eliminate them. We want to place them in
locations where..,
1Xict:; Mayor; ;Plummer:- Well :Mr. Manager,, if I am not mistaken, what we have
downtown ;:right now-on:Flagler, Street has greatly improved the situation down
there.<-
Mr.. Adios; ;:Yes. So,r maybe we can...
ixice <Mayor,. Plummers. . , . .with one, exception, and I am still going to. argue
that .:one exceptionnd, that at Gesu Church, when I' couldn't get a fruit
vendor to move to bring a funeral into the church, because they said, that was
their -location. _Now something -,is wrong when that occurs, and you can't even
get into the church. Now, but what I am saying is, that we put in that thing,
with.`locatione givg.04 It.greatly improved.
We.-oouid ;draw. ,up a; plan around the bowl so that they: would be .fixed
to thoseations .lpc.; ;Ta, are not... in fact the University of Miami encourages
td,havei that festive atmosphere.
vice ,,Myor..i'lwaar:': .If,:you don't do.'it, I: think you are; dereltot. Let's
address this issue as it'a before us, and that the arena.
.i uiLs Prict¢: What the City is .proposing, is to create a special vending
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carts, so that in fact the pedestrians can move around the carts and towards
the arena.
'ice Mayor Plummer: What about the issue of the open flames? !--
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Dr. Prieto: No open flames are permitted in this area. This is part of k
chapter 39, which we will apply specifically for this area.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Well, I am as concerned about other areas as I am this
one.
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Cofnmissibner De Yurre: And we will deal with those too. Can you guys move
out of the way, because I mean like, you know, can't see.
Dr. Prieto: Yes.Maybe we can deal with this one and then you can direct us
to do.. bring forth some new legislation for you.
tommi'ssioner Alonso: Dr. Prieto, one concern that I have is where it comes.
to, limit` merchandise only to food and fresh cut flowers. My impression of
going to the Miami Arena for a sports event, it's... in my mind it's not the
_ idea of buying flowers at that time, it does not relate somehow with the sport
at hand. So, maybe I will be willing to buy someth.J:.g that relates to the
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game, or the sports that I have in front of me, but not necessarily, buying
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flowers at that particular time. Maybe if I have something different that I
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am going to see, I might like to carry a flower, maybe so, or a nice gentleman
would 'like to give me a flower, but I am not, at a boxing event, or
basketball, I will like to have a flag, or something different, a T-shirt,
something different, but flowers and food, it might not be necessarily what I
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Mayor Suarez: For Commission meetings, they should bring flowers.
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Mayor Suarez: For Commissioner meetings, you should have flowers we can give
to each other,' and food.
Commissioner Alonso: Yes', flowers are always welcome, but I don't think that
necessarily it's...
ViceMayor Plummer: The problem -is, Leonel is to,o cheap.
Commmissioner Alonso: Well, he did that, about thirty-four years ago, he
brought lots of flowers. Lately, I haven't seen that many. Maybe that's a
." .; good message to him.
Mayor Suarez:` Today is a day devoted to spouses of Commissioners.
Dr,,, Prieto: Essentially, the flower issue came up at some time that it was an
enhancement to the beauty of...
problems. In addition to...
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Cosnmiz$siorier "Alonso: T-shirts, and ` flags, ' and you know, things that are
ih relation to the game,
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r"not only �poFting avez►ts that do take place in the arena, and so...
r C i<®rsionor 'Al<onso `'" Ob�.;We' know, but the flowers, end so, , .
mitt ]i''3 F�a�to,
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Mr. Rodriguez: I don't know why I am getting into this, but they asked me to
clarify. ,That in other parts of the City where we have this kind of t
ordinance, those are the two articles which are permitted, specifically in i
downtown. That became a major issue before when we were discussing the
vending ordinance in downtown, as to what kind of articles were to be sold.
The decision as to what is to be sold, can be established by you by policy.
And that decision can be adapted to each one of the areas you are dealing
with. But the existing ordinances that we have through out the City, in the
other parts of the City, is basically to allow only food and flowers.
Commissioner Alonso: Yes,
Mr. Rodriguez: One Exception... let me... —
Commissioner Alonso: My first question when this was brought to me, I said,
4 yes, this, because it's something that is needed for protection, security, or
it's, to protect certain vendors inside the Miami Arena. And if that is the
case, I would like it very clearly stated on the record, so when I give my
vote, yes,:or no, I will know exactly how I am going to vote.
Mr. Odio: Commissioner, I think that it's a non -issue, that we should not
limit the articles that are sold outside. We should limit the number of
vendors, and their locations.
Commissioner Alonso: Fine.
Mr. Odio: But not what they are selling.
Commissioner Alonso: Exactly.
Vice Mayor Plummer: No, I disagree with you. What happens if you get a
vendor inthere like we see over on Dixie Highway that wants to sell fire
crackers?
Mr. Odio: Fire crackers? Is that legal?
Mayor Suarez: They are illegal by state law.
Commissioner Alonso: Then we say, they're illegal, and they cannot sell them.
Mr. Odio: If they are legal...
Vice Mayor Plummer: Every 4th of July, my friend, there is a tent at 22nd
Avenue and Dixie.;
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Mr. Odio:. :Well; but..
Commissioner Alonso: Well then list some of the things that we believe are
acceptable...
Mayor Suarez: There is kind of an enforcement moratorium around July 4th,
but.
Commissioner Alpntso: . and limit the number of people, and soon.
Mr. Odto:: , .What I am saying is, we should not get involved in what they, are
a selling but'in where they -are selling it, and that they are safe.
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,:Moil, :that's prohibited by ,law,
iaa; 1ey�s. l'l ers ,; We s w.,it in the film just mow,
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Mr.. bdio: That's illegal.
Mayor Suaret: I think what he means i,s... what the Manager means, is that the
tamer thrust to what we are doing, is to specify number, and other conditions.
Not necessarily to get into the issue of regulating specific things that they
ean.sell, except as otherwise provided by law.
Mr:. odiot That's correct.
Mayor`Suarez: Fireworks, alcoholic beverages, both prohibited. If there is
anything else that We should add as a matter of policy, this is maybe the time
to: do it,
Mr.. odio: The one issue with me, is the open flame thing. They are
dangerous...
Commissioner Alonso: Yes, very much so.
M�$ror Suarez: !tight, absolutely.
Mt.. Odio: :.. and they can kill someone.
Mayor Suarez: And in the process of regulating what's going on outside the
atena, maybe we can get their cooperation to enforce...
Mr_ Odio: Right -`if they would cooperate.
Mayor Suarez: ... other...
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Mayor Suarez: ... laws that are already on the books and that are being
violated,so that we don't end up prohibiting everybody there folks �-
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GGamissioner Alonso: That's right.
Iftz.. Maxwell: Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Suarez: Yes.
MIZ.. Maxwell: If I may.
Mi0ir-Suarez: Have -,I said anything incorrect? - please.
' Mt'.. Maxwell: The City, as you well know, has the authority to ban vending
t�aaCaily.
t►or Suarez: Yes; I just said that.
Hk. Maxwell: It's only when you selectively allow certain items, that we
bamikin'to walk that thin line.
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Mayor Suarez; .411 right, but we've not done.that yet.
Mr. Maxwell; About eight years ago when the City found it necessary to
e tablish'Its firai district downtown...
HW,or.Suarez: Yes.
Mir,. Maxwell', ..'"we' banned the" sale of non-food items, and that was challenged
„z hurt. The City prevailed, at ,that time. What provoked the City to do
t tt `urea that the MMtown sidewalks had turned into flea, markets.
Msxwalli AtI'd it was basically through the sale of nor: -food itemst We hack
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Mr. Maxwell: Yes, air,
Mayor Suarez: I thought we were trying to keep the number to limited number,
and keep them from hurting people by doing illegal things, and otherwise, just
structuring it better.
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Mayor Suarez: I am not sure that we are interested in exercising that police
power, but I take note of what you are saying. Aesthetics is a valid exercise
of our police power. If we though that we should ban you totally from there,
or ban specific sales of things that don't make any sense, next to an arena,
ore could do that.
Mr. Maxwell: Yes, sir.
Mayor Suarez: OK. Is any of that being proposed today?
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,restriction of what they are selling, because we just think that...
Mayor.Suarez: All right. So, we have got that.
Commissioner Alonso: Oh yes, we are limiting merchandise which could be sold
to _food and fresh cut flowers.
Mr. Odio:. Then that should be changed. -
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Commissioner Alonso: That's what I have in front of me.
Mr. Odio: That should be struck, Commissioner. Because we don't have enough
police officers to handle other problems, than to have to sit there...
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Mayor Suarez: All right. For enforcement reasons, the Manager is
recommending that we don't try to specify what they can sell. Obviously, they,
can't sell anything that's already illegal under state law, or City Code...
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Mayor Suarez. And the City Attorney is also advising us that if we did want
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we not get..into specific things being sold, and that may be a wise ammunition.
Commissioner Alonso: Or if not, not this limitation that we have in us, like
these two. items. 1 think it's too'•restrictive.
Mayor Suarez: Or -:at least. not that particular limitation. That we get more
.generic,.. or we include other...
Vice Mayor Plummer: Let me ask Public Works. How many locations are you
recommending?
Mayor Suarez; Right., Now _we get to the real issue here.
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Commissioner Alonso: And in what basis do we make the decision of who goes
where?
Dr. Prieto: First come, first serve basis.
Commissioner Alonso: It seems a little bit far, the one who is at the end of
that corner over there. _
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Commissioner Alonso: They might not be doing any...
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Commissioner De Yurre: Do we have... does the ordinance have a time
limitation as to when they can show up? Because I don't want..b you know, we
have a 7 19 0 p.m. ball game, I don't want people lining up at 5:00 in the
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Building, and they can set up until 10:00 o'clock.
Commissioner De Yurre: But are we having the set up for performances at the
arena? I`don't think that you are going to have these you know, these carts
there. Are they there on a daily basis, when there are not any functions
going on?
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Dr. Prieto: They could be, presumably.
Commissioner De Yurre: So obviously... no, no. We can limit the hours, can't
we?
Dr. Prieto: Yes, you can.
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Mayor Suarez: ... theoretically; can come at 5:00 a.m. and sit there all day
until the time arrives where they will establish their priority?
Commissioner. Alonso:' Prohibit vending between 10:00 a.m.
Dr, Prieto:,. From 7:00 in the morning until 10:00 in the morning.
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%Dr. Prieto: Right.
Mayor Suarez: For the establishment of their right to be there. Can they be
there waiting as long as they want?
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Commissioner Alonso: Dr. Prieto, you say prohibit vending?
Mayor Suarez: Wait, wait, let him just finish his inquiry, and than
3. Commissioner Dawkins, and Commissioner Alonso,
Commissioner Alonso: Ohl Excuse me,
Commissioner De Yurres ox. You see my concern is, and I would like to see
implemented, for example, a rule wherein you can set up, up to two hours prior
to the event. For the 700 game, by 5: 50 you can come and show up. Because
if not, then they are going to set up shop like what happened at the Metro
's? Justice Building, that they had hooks, and they were tied in, they were
sleeping there over... it became a horrendous problem. Two hours before, and
I they have to be gone two hours after - which is I think, is adequate.
Mayor Suareti Folks, there is a point in which all of this becomes impossible
;. for us to enforce, and we may just have to ban everybody, so we are warning
you of that.
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Commissioner De Yurre: So two hours before the event and two hours after the
event.
Mayor Suarez: Why don't you build that into the ordinance that they can...
Mr. Maxwell: The problem is, that I believe the arena people can comment on
that, the events begin at different times, it would be necessary...
Commissioner De Yurre: Well, whenever the event starts, two hours before, two
hours after.
Mayor Suarez: He is saying two hours before the particular event, two
hours.
Mr. Maxwell: So you are saying, you don't want them... they can't come into
the; district at all...
Mayor Suarez: Right.
.:Mr.:_Maxwell: until two hours before a scheduled event?
.,Mayor Suarez: That's it. That's what he said. All right.
Mr. Odio: Would it help Mr. Mayor, maybe, if they... I don't know if they are
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organized, but if they would agree to a rotating system... -'
Mayor Suarez: Well, we may get to that. I just want to hear from the
Cosmniseioners`on'the basic concerns, and Commissioner Dawkins wanted to say
A something,. and Commissioner Alonso -after that, please.
Commissioner Alonso: All right. a!
Commissioner De Yurre: Well, let them work that out. _
Commissioner Dawkins: Perry is trying to say something - I don't know. a4
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Mr. Bill Parry: I think that we had a public hearing last week, we had an -
opportunitq to"niaet with -the vendors, and I think that the consensus... s
Mayor Suarez: Bill Perry from the Sports and Exhibition Authorities speaking,
for the record.
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plat ion over there. It's purely from a public safety standpoint. We have
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Picularriiasooa, and setting up the particular district therer, and x' t
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Mr. Perryt Purely from a public safety standpoint.
Mayor Suarazi Yes, I think that almost everybody seems to be in favor of soa►e
regulatory mechanism being in placei and that's... l am glad that you stated
that on behalf of the authority.
Commissioner Dawkins: OK, Mr. Manager.
Mayor Suarez: Commissioner Dawkins wanted to finish a line of inquiryi and
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Mr. Odio: The parking lots.
;.' Commissioner Dawkins: Beg pardon?
Mr. Odio: Parking lots that are used...
Commissioner'Dawkins: That's all around there, parking lots?
Mr.'Odiot Yes, sir. Most of them.
_ Vice Mayor Plummer: No, that's part of the apartment houses.
Mr. Odio:Most of them.
Commissioner Dawkins: :All right, thank you.
Mr. Odio: Most of them are lots, and the Towers.
Commissioner.Dawkins:' Huh?
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Mayor Suarez:' The Towers.
Comm issioner'Alonso:` And the Towers.
Mr.'-; Odio: The Towers -and the parking.
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Commissioner Dawkins":' Now, did you in any way, Mr. ' Manager, - notify the
homeowners that"you=were going to place these people in their back yard?
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Mr. Odio: We have not.
Commissioner Dawkins: All,right, see. Now; here again, you see, and you guys
put us in"the•position of trying to defend ourselves, OK? 'It's just that this
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convenience of the arena and'you are
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housing.
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Commissioner Alonso: Good point.
Commissioner Dawkins: So now...
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Mr. Odio: Show him.
Vice Mayor Plummets Would that not be... all of the vendors would be west of
the metroraill
Commissioner Dawkins: Show me where.
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Dr. Prieto: We would exclude these -right here.
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Mr. Maxwell: All the way around that block.
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Commissioner Dawkins: And what's west? All right now, go back to the other
map and show me the two... go back to the other map and show me the two lots
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that; you're talking; aboutmoving them to. Arid you're going .to move them
where; now?
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Vice Mayor Plummer: That's fine.
Mr. Odio: Around the parking lots.
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Commissioner Dawkins: No further questions.
Mayor.Suarez: OK. .Commissioner Alonso.
Commissioner Alonso:- Yes. I'll like to say that when we finish today, if we
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we- have'.in. place,: it's.:clearly understood by the vendors, and for everyone
concerned. Because I get so many calls in my office with problems with
vendors in the -.City of Miami•,and the neighborhoods calls me, and the vendors
call me, and I use lots of time to meet with the police department, the
vendors,..,tha neighborhoods, and no one seems to understand, and they .throw. at
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me and .say, Commissioner,' .this was what you- approved, so you will have -to go
back and change that. And I want to be certain that everyone understands
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whatever,.decision.we'make"today, it's clearly :nderstood by the people. When
they go and get a licence, I want them to understand the regulations, becau$e
it seem.thatsomehow,things,:are -not that clear in the City of Miami, -and it:'.s
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-then we have to meet, and that happens with the ice cream people, and it
happens ,with. _.the, flower vendors, and then they come and show me and say,
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Commissioner, look, ;I have a licence, and then I got arrested. ' And I don't
ehinl� that we should;<;be. doing ,that.. So ;when- they issue the licence, I want
something writteA to :be given to them that they clearly understand what are
t,he;trhngs;t:hat we expect from .them in a very clear fashion. No grey areas.
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vendors as Mr. Maxwell said, in an area twenty-five feet by twenty -feet, or
so, which happens to be also on top of the righc—of-way of FEC, in the midst E
of the traffic flow between the metrorail and the arena. The traps and the
discussion really boils down to dispersing the vendors from that corner, fr
giving them plenty of opportunity to service the majority of patrons who ,do �
come by automobile, and continue to sell their -cares in an orderly fashion.,
Mayor Suarez: OK. Thank you. Sir, you represent any particular group? and r
give us your name and address,
' Mr: de la Hoz: Yes, sir. Ricardo de la Hoz, 48 SW 10 Avenue, Miami, Florida. 11111
I am very glad the people from the arena brought the video tape and brought t
the pictures of us. What are we doing? - we are working. We are not selling
drugs, we are working. Now, all the things that they put because we all 'read
this, are good. No open flame, all those regulations are fine with us.
Mayor Suareze OK. So far, we agree.
Mr de la Hoz: The only thing that is going to destroy us are the locations.
Why? The area where we are working right now, is fine to work because there
is enough space toputtwo lines of carts for us to work and for the people to `
move in. If they move us...
Mayor Suarez: How many: vendors are usually located in that area that you are
talking about?
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Mr. de la Hoz: Yes, sir. We are families that we work on this, and we are
between...
Mayor Suarez: How many, if you know?
Mr. de la Hoz: Yes, we are a total of fifteen carts, only hot .dog carts.
Because if they prohibit open flame, we are only hot dog carts.
Mayor Suarez: All right. On those that are about fifteen, how many are ;
provided,for that general area now under the scheme that -you -are proposing?,
Sr.; Prieto: , Around fifty. j
Vice Mayor Plummer: I counted seventy -five -dots. '
Mayor Suarez: The fifteen that we were talkir;g about Dr. Prieto, are right
immediately in front of the arena in the area where they now locate them?
Mr. de la Hoz: Exactly. a' ,t
Mayor Suarez: How many are now provided for that particular area under the..
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Mr. de la Hoz: None.
Mr. Maxwell: None are proposed for that area right there.
Mayor Suarez: I see. All right.
Mr, de la Hoz: Mr. Mayor, thank you for your time and all the Commis sion era�
This .is the area where we are working right now. Now, the arena was. paying
two police officers to enforce the Laws, and we were no open_ flame,
- nothing,- only hot : dpg carts, only one line. Then they decided to don't pay
<; the police no more, and then the police say, OK, there is no more enforcing of j
the law, so everybody, :took... the comethey:,-,
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Now, when they: did that, they bring the camera and they film"us, and tiey w
showed this to you.
Mayor Suarez:, You think we tricked you by taking the police officeir, one
theno encouraging: everybody to use open flames, and then come' in
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a camera.
Commissioner be Yurre That must have been Bill Perry.
' Mayor Suarers That must have been Bill. Was he big, and strong, and... `
Commissioner Alonsos Or Chris Korge, he is very good at that.
Mr. de la Hoz: All the arguments of this we agree to. The only thing we
don't want, is to move us from the area we are working now. Now, there was an f
article on `the Miami Herald on Sunday. The areas where they want to move { ;k
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_ Mayor`Suarezi Ohl they are experts of taking pictures of people doing things
that they don't want to do. Yes, they are probably the ones.
Mr, de la Hoz: Exactly. Now, the area where they want to move us, is the
area wherethey are... you know, in the area where we are now...
mayor Suarez: It looked like this guy here, the guy taking pictures? - this l
guy over here with the glasses back there?
Mr. de la Hoz: No,
Commissioner Alonso: They probably did.
Mayor Suarez: You see him?
Mr. de la Hoz So, the only thing we ' ask... we want to conform to the City
regulation. We want to do what the City wants. This piece of paper that they
wrote''is perfect with us, no open -flame, nothing,`the only thing.`.:
Mayor Suarez: All right, then we are in agreement on that.
` Mr. de la Hoz: The only thing we want, is not to move us from the area we are
working 'now.'
mayor Suarez That's the problem, that's what we've got to solve. All right.
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Mr. de la Hoz: Thank your ±`
' Mayor Sus'rers Ma'am, real quick because we've got to act on this, and I know
we have got the Bureau of Prison` folks, and we' want to try to get them' before
the -'end of the morning.
Ms. Karen `Akinb'iyi: OK, Karen Akinbiyi, A-K-I-N-B-I-Y-I, 7481 'NW 133rd Y.;.
Street, Holl ood .Florida. I yw , gave Commissioner Alonso an article that was Yn
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Ms. Akinbiyis , . two patrons who went to the Miami. Arena and got mugged._
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`aadr, haae to get money, will definitely be mugged. The time that the
Aixeaa is ripen is a 4angeroua hour. This is the best place for its `ss3 ►eadosi
' to`he, because' this is where the policemen are. The picture that I gave y9I � r
Y7 with the article. is in goat of the arena where the police cciagrog4 -0. "�
Q�h 6ther'poli0amon are Matrs� polI' by the metrorall station,
der ! n x out to got further, because it, is an uneAte area. I we Arq put
' �o` we ` wi7 l ba out o busines�e ` because poop g�ai�' to
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No. Akinbiyi: Surely.
Mayor Suarezt haven't anybody, Mr. City Manager, and I guess Rob, because I
gather that a lot of the hiring of off -duty poi ice officers is done directly
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around, or something, to patrol more effectively?_
s,. Ma. Akinbiyi: Exactly.
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Mr,'Franklins On the subject of the...
Mayor; Suarez: I see your security chief back there, it looks like he is ready
to give us all kinds of ideas.
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Mrs Franklin. Well, the police who are hired off -duty by the arena,. and/or
the promoters renting the arena...
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before the events, and thirty minutes after the events, specifically for
traffic. -
Mayor Suarez: You, are like everybody else around here, you are great at not
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Mr.;:Franklin: OK. Specifically for traffic control. They are.to get people
in ,and out:
Mayor Suarez: A little bit more mobile kind of equipment for them to be in
more,areas.than they can by just being on foot.
Mr}'Franklin:<'My point, -Mayor, -is that they are assigned to<intersections'for
traffic..:control. - -.That's-their< job, traffic control. And not...
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Ms. Akinbiyi: No.
Mr..Franklin: Not outside the arena. No, sir.
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arrest--, or --anything tl'-.ike. that. - But -' their job, outaxide the arena...
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Authority or:somebody ought to be considering the possibility -that, some ought
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Mr. Franklin. We11, we have.
T1 Mayor Suarexa die always thought that :they were -there,' at least, partly .. for_
r* socurityt 4`and :.then - provide them with some, carts.- or something to : move 'around
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Mr. Franklin: They are deployed on... the reason they are mobile, that's what
` tam trying to respond to Mr. Mayor, they reason they are not mobile is.,,
Mayor Suarez: They are working for you so you obviously can tell them where
to. -be, -
Mr. Franklin: Pardon
Mayor Suarez: they are working for you, so you, so you can actually,
obviously teli:them where to...
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Mr. Franklin: Yes, buy I am saying, the reason that they are not mobile is
becausethey are assigned to corners to direct traffic.
Mayor Suarez: All right..
Mr. Franklin: In the thirty-three months that the arena has been open, 3.8
million ,people have attended events there. Twice the population of Dade
County. Yes, we have had a handful of incidents and yes, we have had some of
them=be;.publicized. We are concerned about the safety of the area.
Mayor Suarez: Well, if anything negative happens among the 3.8 million people }
that attended successfully and -happily, the event, you bet your life they are
going to publicize it, that's the way they look at life, you know.
Commissioner Alonso: Yes.
Mayor Suarez:. Even it's one out of 3.8 million. They are going:to highlight
¢ that;:one,_and they are goingto put a big picture. The are not going to talk'
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Mr. Odio: But Mr. Mayor, you know what, The Herald made,a big...
Commissioner Dawkins Hold on, hold on. Mr. Mayor, let me make a statement,
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Mayor Suarez: Yes, that's what I am saying. Commissioner Dawkins. '
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the arena., and .I have argued with the Heat. Nobody seems to understand that
>hi without the citizens, we don't have a facility. Now, when you start to saq
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is needed, I ,understand,. there 3s an argument between the management
F department and the Heat as to what is needed. Now, it has just been stated
that they do not have enough policemen. If you had enough policemen, the { ,
policemen. outaide-would not .have to go. inside, to serve .a police function. ;
They .,would;ati11 be,_,to protect the public., So somewhere along the
lines,:tbe:.Miami.,Heat has to understand that they've got to.pick up some-more.mod,
cost'. And the. Miami Heat cannot pass this cost on to the City of Miami!
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ity of Miami, : that you are not providing that as needed, Thep
.have; to, cut into their profit margin and hire some more people to be outside
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Y= , Man ►Be '� have," sai4 it: ,before, ,and: I am going to say it ; to you . Again. W@
n od=eoan►a omnino, officers out: there where these parking meters are. You nAed.
an"officer with a_canine. So, now, somebody has to tell the Miami Host that,
ve ..84t nto prow do -snore pc,lice;, .. Now I don;'t care .whether bho cosh havt,9
`snit;.lotv�en,.the,.-A�utQritq, the Arena, and the Heat, or what, but...
s Xinex,Meiy4 lu ►er:: :.Wolin .ys�a�..bet�ter-rAmembe.�r that; the Miami Beat._ ad._th i fi
-- sib et ea t deal �r�m this My + TAst. they. have ,a prov4Pion that;- #x.bq_r of,
�: gr� :.lCdnyti�ng,► . that: ,1�, pCMup .by .the r
rr:takht7;i.rSi&i1.rS ;theme ;-theyYe 'Qt 0-have another lQ P:l.,ic+teA, })
lntis tell you Ghat after. 'x' is s'Bachod, this spots �t�thQrit�► � a �
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back to it and get it disposed of so...
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Vice Mayor Plummer: When is the Heat's contract up with the authority? And
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need a bigger place, and... what is all of that about?
Commissioner Alonso: Smoke, I hope.
Mr. franklint In my opinion, it's a negotiating maneuver, but that's as Mayor
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says, that's is little far removed from the subject.
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another seven years, what are they blowing this negotiating smoke for now?
Mr.: Franklin: To answer your question, the Heat licence agreement which is
- with ,Leisure Management is in the third year of a ten year agreement. There
are.out provisions at the end of years five, and seven, but only in the event
that their attendance drops below thirteen thousand.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Which it has not?
Mr. Franklint: In terms of sold tickets, it has not.
Vice Mayor Plummer: OK. Thank you. I just figured that you know, that they
are.blowing.all.kinds of smoke as usual.
Mr. Odio: - Can we repeat this number?` We have had 3.8 million people visit
the arena, and five incidents. And the Herald made it sound like...
{ Commissioner Dawkins: But if they were minor or major, I am concerned.' I
don't want any incidents.
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Mayor Suarez:, That's right. -
Commissioner Alonsov That's right.
Commissioner Dawkins: So, don't... I mean, don't try to justify how many
fi people came through and how less... .I -don't want one incident.
Mr. Odio: We agree, Commissioner, but...
;._ Commissioner Dawkins: OK then, that's all.
Mr...Odios ... we. don It want to make it sound like the area on the arena `is.
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good job, we know we've done a good job, let's leave it at that.
J Mr. Odio: Yss, but see, the public that reads that, might not come to an
event:
Commi.esioner . Dawkins: The same, people: who influence the public are going to
influence the public, that'what you're saying is not true.
s f L Mayor;, Suarez: All eight, last statement ma'am: and then the Co=i.ssion has
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� t�mpWing,p 41 taking*jppout ehhish kebab. The th;..1g is, we just don't want to
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Commissioner Dawkinst OK. Mr. Mayor,
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in.May, or the first meeting in May, it doesn't matter to me, and that the
homeowners around there, also come in and discuss, or where they should go.
And we also need to hear from them as to the safety angle of where they plan
to -put'. them,
kiycir'Suaret: Yes: And if this motion passes, I gather the Manager, and Dr.
Prieto, and Bill Perry, and Rob Franklin, and all of you, are already sitting
theretlooking at possible_ configuration of locations. You might want to take -
into account what they said, that there is really kind of just one key area,
without ;'ever going back to the things you si.owed us in the pictures, I
understand that's way too much. There may be a r.ompromise.
Mr. -bdio: OK. Could we,..?
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$ Vice Mayor Plummer: Wait a minute. Not just you, OK? There are other areas
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Mayor=Suarez: And I hope that the law enforcement aspect of this is improved,
and., that you help for us to monitor that and to -enforce that,, because
otherwise this Commission Vice Mayor Plummer has said it I., think there 'is
twow"other 'votes. here to just put an end to all of this, OK? If we see :the
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activity.-,:on the :sidewalk."
Mayor':Suarezt -'Exactly.
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vendors are proposing that they remain in, is the very area that is causing
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„ MOTION NO. 91-269
A MOTION TO DEFER AGENDA ITEM 8 (PROPOSED FIRST`
READING ORDINANCE RELATING TO SIDEWALK AND STREET
VENDING - ESTABLISHING A NEW "MIAMI ARENA SPECIAL
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VENDING DISTRICT") TO THE FIRST COMMISSION MEETING IN
MAY; FURTHER INSTRUCTING THE ADMINISTRATION TO INVITE
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Upon being seconded by Commissioner De Yl.irre, the motion was passed and
-adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Victor De Yurre
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Miriam Alonso
Vice Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
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21. OPEN BIDS: CONSTRUCTION OF DOWNTOWN HIGHW,iY IMPROVEMENT PHASE II BID B
(B-4521) (CIP 341115).
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Mayor Suarez:' Madam City Clerk, there was an item that had to be announced...
° Ms. Matty ,Hirai: , Yes, sir:
Mayor `Suarez: that 'somehow was left out of the agenda.
Ms..'Matty-Hirai:, Yes,that's right. Pursuant to advertisements for bids,
distributed by the administration for bid number 1991-080, we received sealed
bids for construction of the Downtown Highway Improvement Phase II, Bid "B",
Project (B4521)`. Mr. Mayor, I`need a motion to open bids.
Commissioner Alonso:` I so move.
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{ 'Commissioner De' Yurre: Second:
'"Ms: Hirai:' Commissioner De Yurre'seconds.
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A MOTION TO RECEIVE, OPEN, AND READ ALOUD SEALED BIDS
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Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Miriam Alonso
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: Vice Mayor J.L. Plummer, Jr.
COMMENTS MADE AFTER ROLL CALL:
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Mayor Suarez: I am inclined to tackle...
Ms. Matty Hirai: The first, I have to...
Mayor Suarez:, Ohl Yes, please. Read them into the record.
Ms. Matty Hirai: Yes. The first bid Mr. Mayor, is from the Kivick
Enter rises Inc., total bid one million a, hundred and seventeen thousand
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seventy-nine dollars, seven cents ($1,117,079.07). This is the... the second
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bid,.is from -Man -con Inc., total bid is one million five hundred and eighteen
thousand seven hundred thirty-four dollars, fifty cents ($1,518,734.50).
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Third bid is from Rick -man International Inc., total bid, one million four
hundred and: nine thousand eight hundred, ninety-three dollars, twenty-two
cents ($1,409)893.22). Next bid is from Marks Brothers Inc., total bid, one
million thousand, a hundred and eighty-one dollars ($1,099,181).
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Next- bid is from Central Florida Equipment . Rental of Dade County Inc. , total
bid, one million a hundred and ninety-four thousand, three hundred and sixty-
six dollars ($1,194,366). Next bid is from P.J. Constructors Inc., total bid,
one million three hundred and twenty thousand, two hundred and eighty-seven
dollars, ninety cents ($1,320,287.90). Next bid, the last bid Mr. Mayor, is
from Galtech Inc., one million two hundred thousand dollars ($1,200,000). Mr.
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Mayor Suarez: OK. Do we need action? What is the usual thing? - Vice Mayor,
you -always propose...
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Ms. Hirai: ..We already, have the motion, Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Suarez: All right. Did we pass it? Did we take the roll call on it?
Ms. Hirai: Yes, sir. Yes, Mr. Mayor.
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22. (A) APPROVE, IN PRINCIPLE, PROCESS FOR RETAINING THE HISTORIC
:CHAILLE-BLOCK ARCADES (401-445 N. MIAMI AVENUE).
(B) APPROVE, IN PRINCIPLE, PROCESS INVOLVING REPLATTING WHICH ,WOULD
ALLOW A SECURITY BRIDGE TO BE ,CONSTRUCTED CONNECTING
DETENTION CENTER AND- FEDERAL N.
METROPOLITAN .COURTHOUSE .(301
MIAMI AVENUE).
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Mayor Suarez:; I am, informed,., and,. Mr. Manager, please help me here. I am
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the,Bureau,ol f:Prisons issue.,,,We .have handled it many times. This makes sense
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dio:, : Excune me, You have to include 15 on it, Mr, Mayor.
c►is, lonor Alopao; ' Fifteen?.
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resolution the action you took on February 14th, so that should
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Vice Mayor Plummer: Wait, wait, wait. Don't...
Commissioner Alonso: I beg you pardon?
Mr. Sergio Rodriguez: Item 15, is to formalize by
resolution,
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Commissioner Dawkins: What are we voting on, 15 or 16?
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Mr. Rodriguez: Fifteen.
Mayor Suarezt Fifteen, sixteen (A) and (B) we are
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We -art not voting yet.
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Commissioner Dawkins:- Fifteen? All right, move 15.
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Commissioner Alonso: Second.
Mayor :Suarez: OK. Moved and second as to item 15.
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been briefed at some point.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Let's understand what we are doing
here now.
We are confirming the retaining of the Chaille Block?
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Mr. Odio: Correct.
Vice Mayor Plummer: OK. But in return, we've got to give them,
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Commissioner Dawkins: Yes.
Mr. Rodriguez: Right.
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Vice Mayor Plummer: And they will assume all cost of
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operation, and liability?
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Mr. Rodriguez: Right.
Vice Mayor Plummer: You are saying that, I want them
to say it.
Mayor Suarez: The record reflect that representative...
Mr. William Patrick: It's Bill Patrick from the Federal Bureau
of Prisons, Washington' D.C. The Bureau of Prisons
is ready .to`
accept -that responsibility.
Vice Mayor Plummer:, OK.
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Commissioner Dawkins: Thank you. Any further...
Mayor•Suarez: On item fifteen?
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let's 16 (A), 16 (B), Let's
anything an any action, take and
talk at it as a whole process.
k= mayor Suarez: OK. If we may, withhold the roll call
on item 16;
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alternatives, I guess.
Commissioner Dawkins: Sixteen (A) or (B)?
Ms. Weintraub: That's right.
Vice Mayor Plummer: All right, but that's the bridge? OK. Now
what about the street closure?
Ms, Weintraub: Arleen Weintraub, Department of Development,
Sixteen (A) or sixteen (B). Sixteen (A) is what we are
recommending, and we understand that is acceptable to the Bureau
of Prisons, and I know they will speak to that. But in return
for sixteen (A), like fifteen, they give us something back, and
that's the street improvements that we discussed. You asked me,
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Commissioner: Plummer, at the last meeting to bring you cost
estimates, and I have done so, and I would like to put those into
the record. Total improvements for the length of the street, NE
4 Street, I have estimated it to be four hundred thousand with
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contractor's help, this is not a loan. The portion that we
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is sixty percent Bureau of Prison, forty percent share from
Federal GSA (General Services Administration).
Mayor Suarez: It's two forty, and one sixty?
Ms. Weintraub: Excuse me?
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Ms. Weintraub: That's correct. And I have this, and I will pass
this.out and put it in the record.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Wait a minute now, you are talking about
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Ms. Weintraub: Four hundred thousand dollars ($400,000) total.
Vice Mayor Plummer:- And sixty percent is paid by who?
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Vice Mayor Plummer: And forty percent?
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Ms. Weintraub: Federal GSA. Federal GSA has sent a letter that
.', I also want to 'put into the record, committing to pay their fair
share, forty.percent of that, approximately, -one sixty.
Vice Mayor Plummer: What is the estimated value of that which
they,will acquire?
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and- fifty, square feet, at roughly sixty-five dollars, of 1.7
million.
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Vice Mayor Plummer: So, they are getting one point, seven five
million =.:worth `of value of tax payers owned property for: four
hundred thousand dollars ($400,000)-? I think; something lis
a, missing, about a`million three.
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have agreed to, the Bureau of Prisons is agreeing to outlay in
s� v excess,,Qf two million dollars ($2,000,000) for therenovatiQa'of
Chaille alocX. So. I . would say we are... the : Bureau.. of
= P r i a o n a is still getting the short end of the stick, if you
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Vice Mayor Plummer: live got the stick.
Mr. Patrick: ... without this land, the Bureau of Prisons... all
the Bureau of Prisons needs is a bridge from our building to the
yederal Court. If we do not acquire the replatting of the land,
the Bureau of Prisons is prepared to move forward with just the
bridge. We have no vested interest in having the street closed.
Vice Mayor Plummer: OK. Then I have to ask one other question.
You are saying to me, to restore the Chaille Block..,
Mayor Suarez: Well, you know what he is saying to you? - he is
saying that you are winning the ground war, but they are going to
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Vice Mayor Plummer: Yes. I didn't go to Kuwait.
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Commissioner Dawkinst Very well put, Mr. Mayor.
Vice Mayor Plummert I want to know what are they doing to
restore the Chaille Block at a cost of two million dollars
($2,000,000).
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Commissioner Dawkins: That's not..
Vice Mayor Plummer: Huh? No, I've got to ask that question. I
mean, to restore a historic site is one thing, but for two
million dollars ($2,000,000) is another.
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the front thirty-four feet of those buildings up to and in
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essence, the condition that they were in 1918, I believe it is,
and under the guidance of the State Historic Preservation office,
the City of Miami and the national preservation requirements, and
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each of these buildings, which in fact does not meet current
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codes.- So in essence, you will have...
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Vice Mayor Plummer: But... OK. Let's me go back then, the
member of the hysterical board that's here. Two million dollars
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City could spend two million dollars ($2,000,000) some other way,
but... and I have no problem with historical. Why two million
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Board, and have been part of this issue.
Commissioner Dawkins: You just lost our vote.
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Mr. Heisenbottles What they are proposing to do is exactly what
we have wanted them to do for a long time. When given then
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opportunity truthfully, to build property line to property line,
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example of...
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million dollars ($2,000,000)? That number seems extremely high.
Commissionerr Dawkins: We are going to build a mausoleum for you
to bury in,
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Heisenbottle; Historically, it is not. I Con give "you:."two"
ipxmplea that you .wl.11 eQw of, we spent 'riven Poirot z ine>. ivee42
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Mayor Suarez: The Federal Government has been known to spend a
lot of money on what is it? - screwdrivers, and all kinds of
other things in relation to...
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Commissioner Dawkins: You are going to use local residents to
work, right?
Vice Mayor Plummer: You ought to be using all unemployed for two
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Commissioner Dawkins: It's impossible tr use all of them, but we
are going to use local employees?
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Mr, Patrick: That's correct.
Commissioner Dawkins: So therefore, we will be putting some
people to work, right?
Mr. Patrick: That's correct.
Commissioner Alonso: Yes,
Mayor Suarez: Not relatives of Congressmen and Senators who live
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in other parts of the United States, right?
Mr. Patrick: That's correct.`
Mayor Suarez: We are going to check into that. We are going to
check the` last, names. All right, Commissioners, on the item at
hand?
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Vice Mayor Plummer: I just... Mr. Major, you know, I want to
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vote for this thing, but there is just something that is totally
out of character here.
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Mr. Patrick: - Well, I should state that these...
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Vice Mayor Plummer: That's not yours, OK? You are willing to
money. the spend p y. It just seems like to me that if I had a matter
of ?priorities,''the two million dollars ($2,000,000) could be
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spent a hell of lot better way in this community than restoring.
`"And :I am `not against restoring in a reasonable bounds, but to
%restore to the tune of two million dollars ($2,000,000) to me is
out of line.
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Mayor Suarez-' All right, on the item on 'hand, on item 15, we
have- a`motion and`a second already, don't we, Madam City Clerk?
Vice Mayor Plummer; On fifteen,...
Ms. Hirai: Ye's,'sir, we do'.
Mayor Suarez: Call the roll on that item. There is no further
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RESOLUTION NO. 91-271'
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A RESOLUTION CONFIRMING THE ACTION OF THE
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APPROVING' IN PRINCIPLE THE PROCESS FOR
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RETAINING THE HISTORIC CHAILLE BLOCK ARCADES,
401-.445 NORTH' MIAMI AVENUE, MI tMI, FLORIDA.
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AYES: Commissioner Victor De Yurre
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Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
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Commissioner Miriam Alonso
Vice Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr,
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
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COMMENTS MADE DURING ROLL CALL:
*Vice Mayor Plummer: I am approving it in principle. That's all
we are doing, and.let the record so reflect, it is only approving
in principle. I want to see where that two million dollars
($2,000,000) is going. I can't envision for one minute, that,two
million ($2,000,000) is going. to be spent -in a block, just 'to
restore.'
Mayor Suarezt Spend a -lot of time with the Vice Mayor, would
you? I mean, in principle.
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COMMENTS MADE AFTER ROLL CALL:'
Mayor Suarez: Seriously, I mean, explain it to him. He wants to
get into the details of it. He is entitled to it. He wants to
know how the taxpayers money is being uses... it's all of our
money, really, I mean, it's no different. OK, item 16 (A). I'll
entertain a motion on it.
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Commissioner Dawkins: That's the one we want?
Mayor Suarez: Yes.
Commissioner Dawkins: Move it.
Mayor Suarez: Moved. Seconded by Commissioner Alonso. Any
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The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner
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RESOLUTION NO. 91-272
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- A RESOLUTION APPROVING, IN PRINCIPLE, THAT
PROCESS INVOLVING REPLATTING WHICH WOULD
ALLOW A SECURITY BRIDGE TO BE CONSTRUCTED
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CONNECTING THE METROPOLITAN DETENTION CENTER
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AND THE FEDERAL COURT HOUSE, 301 NORTH MiAMI
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AVENUE, MIAMI, FLORIDA.
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Commissioner Miriam Alonso
Vice Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.`
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Mayor Suarez: Yes, siXteen (B).
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Mr.`Fernandezt You don't need it.
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23. DISCUSS AND TEMPORARILY TABLE PROPOSED RESOLUTION
AUTHORIZING EXECUTION OF AGREEMrNT WITH CODEC, INC.,
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CONCERNING DEVELOPMENT OF TOWNHOME PROJECT (150 UNITS) ON
MELROSE NURSERY SITE (AFFORDABLE HO11SING) (See label.29).
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Commissioner Alonso: Eleven.
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Mayor Suarez: I think that I hear that a Commissioner is
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Mayor Suarez: ... very important distinction.
Commissioner Alonso: Table, until the a'ternoon?
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Mayor Suarez: Let me' explain what it, means.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Wait`, .what -item ar; we on?{-
Mr. Odio: Which item?
Mayor Suarez. What item''ie:it?
Alonso: Eleven. Why?
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Mayor Suarez: Because I know you were s:,tting through the "entire
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Commissioner Alonsos Why do .we table?
iayor"Suarez : Commissioner De Yurre, I think, wants to table the
tesq for part of... the rest of the day until presumably...
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Mayor Suarez: Maybe, he wants to beat ycu guys out of a lunch, I
don't know, I don't know what the situation is. Commissioner,
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Commissioner Alonso: Commissioner want% to have lunch with you.
Commissioner De Yurre: Move to table.
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table items. I do it at the request of the Commissioner, as he-=
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more clarification. can't you guys risking
the loss of a vote of a Commissioner would object to...
Commissioner Alonso: Come back in the afternoon. But are we
going to take the item today?
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Commissioner Alonso: Yes, in the afternoon.
Commissioner De Yurre: Hopefully, later on today.
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Mayor Suarez: All right, the item is tabled, and that was
item...?
Ms. Eugenia Anderson: For today? It will be for later today?:
Commissioner Alonso: Yes.
Mayor -Suarez: I hope so. If you get off the mike real quick, we
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will probably get to it.
Commissioner De Yurre: If I am clear on the issues that I have.
Mayor 'Suarez: At the request of Commissioner De Yurre, item is
tabled until a little later on today.
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24. FIRST ;READING ORDINANCE: CREATE NEW CODE CHAPTER 45.5.
PUBLIC NUISANCE - PROVIDE FOR CREATION OF NUISANCE ABATEMENT_`
BOARD; FILING AND HEARING OF COMPLAINTS AGAINST BUILDINGS,
PLACES OR PREMISES ALLEGED TO BE A PUBLIC NUISANCE;
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PROCEDURE FOR NUISANCE ABATEMENT BOARD HEARINGS, INCLUDING
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PRESENTATION OF EVIDENCE REGARDING CRIME RELATED .ACT.IVITY:.
ANNOYING CONDUCT ON PREMISES LOCATED IN MIAMI - PROVIDE FOR
ENFORCEMENT PROCEDURES AND PENALTIES; eEc.
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Mayor Suarez: Item 9.
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Vine Mayor Plummer: Where in the hell are we?
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Mayor Suarez: Item 9.
Vice Mayor Plummer; Item 9? 1 move its
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Mayor Suarazi A nuisance ordinance movod. Do we have a second?
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Mr. Fernandezi This is Citywide,
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Mayor Suarers All right, very good, because we would not ba
otherwise in a position to do that anyhow. All right, as to the
item before us, we have a motion and a second, I believe.
Vice Mayor Plummers I moved it.
Mayor Suarez: Read the ordinance.
Mr. Fernandez: With the modification of adding PSA to do the
limited function which there has been explained they would''do
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the ordinance reads...
�:. AT THIS POINT, THE CITY ATTORNEY READ THE ORDINANCi
INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD, BY TITLE ONLY.
Vice Mayor Plummers Now, who will constitute that board? >^
Mr. Fernandez: It needs to be formed, and there is procedures in
this ordinance, and the procedures...
Vice -mayor Plummers How many members will be on that board?
Mr. :Fernandez: I believe five. If you turn to... in your
packet, it's on page 5
Vice Mayor Plummer: There will be five members of the board? 7;
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Mr. .Fernandez: Yes.
Vice Mayor Plummers OK. My only suggestion, Mr. City Attorney, g
is, don't try 1to reinvent the wheel. This idea came to me
through Miami Beach who have been extremely successful with their
FNuisance Abatement Board. I would strongly suggest to you sir,
that you join with them in finding out how they are doing, and
accomplishing things so that we can get the same results.
Mr. Fernandez: Yes, we have. In fact, we have been meeting with �.
them and with the City of Hialeah, and many other municipalities �f
through the State that have gone on before us, and we have lifted 3;
from their ,ordinances , portions that we believe is what. this
Commission has asked for. N�,y
Vice Mayor Plummer: So be it, r
Commissioner Dawkins: Mr. City Attorney, is it a public nuisance
under this ordinance to shoot crap on tha streets, and sell drugs 4"
on the corners?- Would that.be a public nuisance?
Mr. Fernandez: No.. We are taking about activities: -that take �
place within premises. - And then. the vay that we attackBet L
activities, is by closing those premises.
Vice Mayor Plummer: They shoot the craps in the mini park. They
are owned by the City.
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Commissioner Dawkins: Said buildings, places, or-premises3. .r
Premises could not be a corner on 54th Street and 12th Avenue. K`
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here is the... if anybody is seen by a police officer conducting ?¢
an illegal act of doing whatever you said they did,..,Na
°} Commissioner Dawkins Shooting crap. I don't have...
' kir.. Fernandez: There you go. Then .they can':be arrested, b0caus'e y
that'sa a violation of the law.
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HAAager to have the police take this and read it to evexybo4y ou
t;hero on those corners,: and let them know, that-, Commests�n�►�
mitle►r )awkina to going to be enforcing this to put theM in
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Commissioner Dawkins: OK. I would ride with him and take a
picture of them shooting crap, and then read this to them. I_
have to do that?
Mr. Fernandez: But wait a minute...
' Commissioner Dawkins: Well then what a.-e you telling me. What
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the hell... what good is it then?
Lt. Joe Longueira: Commissioner.
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Vice Mayor Plummer: Dawkins, one of the biggest dice games in
the Grove, is in the City park, the mini park.
s Lt. Longueira: Commissioner, if I can address this.
Vice Mayor Plummer: It's also the southern distribution for
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crack.
Commissioner Alonso: It gives us the power to do it.
CommissionerDawkins: So what do we do then, Joe?
Lt Longueira: Commissioner, if somebody is gambling or selling
drugs on a corner, or in a City park, that's a criminal
violation, and if we witness it, we will be glad to arrest them.
But if a businessman has, I think it's three violations of a
narcotic dealing in his business, he is taken before the'Nuisance
Abatement Board, and they can close down the business. -
Vice Mayor Plummer: Why three? Why not one?
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Mr. Fernandez: Again:..
Vice 'Mayor Plummer: Why not one, why give him two freebies?
Mr: Fernandez: Over a period of I believe, it is eighteen
months. And here we are trying to make sure that we ensure due
process to everyone. There is an opportunity to be noticed, to
be.
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Vice Mayor Plummer: If he is convicted .n the first instance...
Mayor Suarez: No, he is not. He is the business owner, where
something may have taken place where he says he knew nothing
about.
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Mr. Fernandez: Correct. And then we stand a much better
chance...
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Mayor Suarez: And we can constitutionally defend that, we think.
Mx. Fernandez: Right, exactly.
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Mr. Fernandez: You know, we can look at that...
Mayor Suarez: Is that tie? Is that close?
Mr. Fornanders .,. but we feel much comfortable in being able to
uphold the constitutionality of this ordinance by being that
flexible. I think the ultimate goal...
Mayor Suarez: The third time... there is something magic about
three. I think ever since,.. who w..s the guy that invented
baseball, made it three strikes? I mean, there is nothing, there
really is nothing magical Mr: City Attorney. I would think that
maybe the second time would be enough, but anyhow, that would be
an in-between. What he would like to do which is...
Mr. Fernandez: The first time.
Mayor Suarez:wouldn't even thought about it, he would like
to have them arrested, Commissioner Dawkins, and what we
provided, which is three, OK? On second reading, you might want
to give some thought to it.
AN ORDINANCE CREATING NEW CHAPTER 45.5
ENTITLED "PUBLIC NUISANCE" OF THE CODE OF THE t'
CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA, AS AMENDED, AND z'
THEREBY PROVIDING FOR THE CREATION OF A
NUISANCE ABATEMENT BOARD FOR THE CITY OF
MIAMI, FLORIDA; THE FILING AND HEARING OF
COMPLAINTS AGAINST BUILDINGS, PLACES 0R
PREMISES ALLEGED TO BE A PUBLIC NUISANCE;
PROCEDURES FOR FILING OF NOTICE -TO OWNERS
AND/OR OPERATORS OF SAID BUILDINGS PLACES OR
PREMISES AND FURTHER PROVIDING THE PROCEDURE -_
FOR THE NUISANCE ABATEMENT BOARD HEARINGS,
INCLUDING PRESENTATION OF EVIDENCE REGARDING
CRIME RELATED ACTIVITY AND/OR ANNOYING =_
CONDUCT ON PREMISES LOCATED IN MIAMI,
AUTHORITY TO DECLARE SAID PREMISES UNLAWFUL
PUBLIC NUISANCES AND TO ENTER ORDER
PROHIBITING THE MAINTENANCE OF SAID LOCATIONS
AND/OR THE OPERATION OF SAID PREMISES;
PROVIDING FOR THE BRINGING OF SUIT FOR
PERMANENT INJUNCTION AGAINST FURTHER
MAINTENANCE OF SAID BUILDING, PLACE OR
PREMISES; FURTHER PROVIDING THAT THE CITY
THROUGH ITS ATTORNEY, MAY SUR IN THE NAME OF
THE STATE TO ENJOIN NUISANCES AS SET FORTH
HEREIN AND THOSE NUISANCES AS DEFINED IN
CERTAIN ENUMERATED SECTIONS OF THE FLORIDA
STATUTES AND SUE THE OWNERS OR AGENTS OF THE -
BUILDING, PLACE OR PREMISES WHICH CONSTITUTE
SUCH NUISANCES; FURTHER PROVIDING FOR
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PROVIDING FOR A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE AND AN
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Was introduced by Vice Mayor Plummer and seconded by
Commissioner Alonso and was passed on its
first reading by
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by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Victor De Yurre
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Miriam Alonso
Vice Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES; None.
ABSENT: None.
The City Attorney read the ordinance
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and announced that copies were available
to the members
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City Commission and to the public.
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point, agenda
item`12 was briefly discussed,
but as there
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prior to noon, it was tabled
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want to take up
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s Mayor Suarez: Well, we have one minute.
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Mr. Odio: It's just approving in prLTICipre, the selection of
` Bayside Seafood Restaurant, and Virginia Key Marina Association:
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saying that within sixty days, they have to bring proof of
financial responsibility, and they also understand that until the
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Vice Mayor Plummer: No, I am more concerned in the fact that in
the final analysis, we are talking about also going out with
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Vice Mayor Plummer: And I wanted... that's got to be coupled
`with:a'conversation in relation to that.,.
Mr. Odiot Fine.
Vice Mayor Plummer: ... and what is...? I can't find anywhere
in here, what the minimum guarantee, annual guarantee to the City
y is. So that's all of the things I'd need to discuss.
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Mayor Suarez: Two o'clock, we reconvene.
" THEREUPON THE CITY COMMISSION WENT INTO A
LUNCHEON RECESS AT 12:00 NOON AND RECONVENED
-AT 2:15 P.M., WITH ALL MEMBERS OF THE CITY
COMMISSION FOUND TO BE PRESENT WITH THE
:1. EXCEPTION OF COMMISSIONER DAWKINS.
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25. (Continued Discussion) CLAIM SETTLEMENTS: ESTATES 'OF (a)
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CLEMENT ANTHONY LLOYD ($500,000), AND (b) ALLAN BLANCHARD
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that-, people would want to have the entire Commission,,
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don"t want to take any chances. If any item is called that you
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settlement of=the Lloyd and Blanchard case very quickly, and then
AS .,'quickly as we are able to.. 'I think we were in the midst of
an item, which was item 12, I believe, and as quickly as possible
after, that, go' to the Community Development Block, Grant
allocations» This ;is a first hearing today,' I just want to,
adv ae.you of that. Not to -encourage your coming twice, but just
`you:' know that`whatever matters we cannot resolve to your
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t3o, I> :know Vice Mayor Plummer, particularly wa:atesl t4
review, and Commissioner;Dawkin$ perhaps -who. is not with us;
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Vice Mayor Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I met with the attorneys at lunch
time, and are they here present? Is there any of them...?
Mr. Fernandez: Yes, there they are.
Mayor Suarez: I see Mark.
Vice Mayor Plummer: You might recall that my concern) brieflq�
was that the bulk of the monies was going to the children, and
the second part, my concern was that in fact, that those monies
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would be protected for the growing up years of the children, I
haVe seen the numbers and in one instance, I am totally satisfied
I must say, on the record. In the second incident, even though I
would have tried to restructure it a little bit different, I feel
that it is fair, because even though :he mother is getting a
considerable amount, she is in fact, turning around and setting
it up for the children. I was unaware that there is in fact a
State 'Statute that exists, and I would ask Mr. McCrary to put on
the record, which gave me the comfort that I was looking for, in
reference to State Statute relating to monies that are received
in settlements of now what the State Statute calls for.
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AT THIS POINT, COMMISSIONER DAWKINS ENTERED THE MEETING
AT 2:18 P.M.
Mr, Jesse McCrary: Mr. Mayor, my name is Jesse McCrary. I met
with Commissioner Plummer, and I want to assure this Commission
that by administrative rule of Metropolitan Dade County, that is
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the Eleventh Judicial Circuit, an order has been issued that
ensures that any monies that go through the court by way of a
settlement for and on behalf of a minor child, there must be two
procedures. One, the Circuit Court will appoint an independent
party to serve as guardian ad litem, to see whether or not the
settlement is fair, and whether the fundr:. are going to the child,
and for the benefit of the child. Secondly, we have proposed to
the court, that an independent guardian of that child's property
be, selectedby the court.' That guardian then is required to
report to the court each year on the money received, and the
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'someone- to have a windfall, but will be used solely for the
purpose of the child. In addition to that, if the mother of a
child seeks to buy something- for a child, other than food,
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clothing, and shelter, there must be a petition made to the court
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to seek'' authorization for the expenditure of that money. And
then, < at the time the reports are filed, the receipts must be
shown that the money was spent for, and on behalf of the minor
child.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Mr. Mayor, bused on that comfort given tome
for`my vote, I -have no further questions I am ready to move for
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'Mayor Suarez: Commissioner Dawkins.
Commissioner Dawkins: I am: not going to move for appr,ovale anl.i
move that if we cannot separate these two cases and settle the
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the victims and -not ,to the lawyers, yea, the split of the ovate
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court, and 1et.the ju gs decida# if the judge agrees with the
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►iniasi'oner D4vkinss Did you set an), clarification of that,
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Mr. Leon Firtel: We could, but the City Attorney's position is
that we should treat these things together.
Commissioner De Yurre: Mr. Mayor, I would make a motion, and
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that would be that we accept the recommendation of the City
Attorney for settlement. However, with the understanding that
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plaintiffs, Either both parties, and I'm talking all the
attorneys absorb the costs, and in one case we have no problem,
in the other case, it's subject to that, and you guys can take
` that under advice, If not, it comes bacl; to us.
a` Mayor- Suarez: Condition on that, being agreed as to the one
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party that has not put on the record that they are agreeable to
that.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Mr. Mayor, in deference to my colleague.
Mayor Suarez: And so moved,
Vice Mayor Plummer: -I would hope that we could make two motions,
so„ -he :could <feel comfortable, and at least, the one that. he is
' aomf.ortable with. I - would like to move, and I don't know which
one he...
' Commissioner De Yurre: That's fine. I'ra with you on that.
Vi,ce,:Mayor Plummer: I don't know which one that he... but I
would. ,
Mayor.Suarez: Yes. I was searching my mind trying to figure how
to do that. If you've got a way you think it could be done, why
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don't you propose it, so that Commissioner Dawkins may vote on it
separately.
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Vice Mayor Plummer: All right. Well, what I am willing to do at
first, is to offer a motion of this Commission, that we accept
the settlement as it pertains to the Lloyd segment. Is that the
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i,.., Mr. Mc Crary: Yes, sir.
Mr. Firtel: Lloyd plaintiff group.
s Vice Mayor Plummer; OK. I would so move that at this time.
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Mayor .Suarez: So moved and seconded. Any discussion on that?`
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favorably this, it is; not inconsistent to vote favorably to
the whole package then, afterwards?
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x what,syax it is, is aa► .gong to ;move the> alachaz'd.
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Vice Mayor Plummer: I am moving the Lloyd first. 5.
Commissioner Dawkins: OK.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Then immediately following that, regardless of which Way
the vote goes, I am going to move the Blanchard.
Commissioner Dawkinss OK. _
Plummer: And that gives you to opportunity to vote yea, or nay, on
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individuals, rather than collectively.
g Commissioner Dawkinss You know, I appreciate your generosity, knowing that
you and I are blood brothers up here...
Vice Mayor Plummer: Blue brothers.
Commissioner Dawkins: Blue brothers, and that we don't do anything, but
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this way on the first time, and then to allow you to display your disgust,
we're going to pass the second one four to one, but at least you were allowed
■ to vote against it. And that didn't accomplish...
Vice Mayor Plummer: But you were allowed to vote for the other one.
Commissioner Dawkins: That don't accomplish nothing.
Commissioner De Yurre: And I don't think you're going to be four to one on
that one. Lee, you got two votes already.
Mr. Fernandez: Mr. Mayor...
Commissioner Dawkins: OK, go ahead, Mr. Mayor, go ahead. No further
discussion. Call the roll, Mr. Mayor.
Mr. Fernandez: As a point of information, assuming full responsibility as I
am assuming ,for the settlement of this case and the magnitude that it is, I'd
much rather really withdraw the entire submission to you and...
Commissioner Dawkins: No way.
Mr. Fernandez: ..because from our perspective...
Mayor Suarez: Well, I'm going to do something a little... yes, let me do
something_a,little different, and I think we'll satisfy you. Let me see how
the votes come.,, out,, and if by any chance, the second motion then doesn't pass,
we'll take this as a motion in principle, understanding that you're going to
want to tell us more -about - the implications of voting favorably to half, and
not to the entire thing. It's the only way I caL think of doing this.
Commissioner Alonso: Yes, in the second case, the Blanchard case, do we have
the- figure. of the expenses, attorney costs? because we heard an approximate
a., amount on the -first case of about $10,000. -
Mayor Suarez: You were beginning to do yours and it was like,..
Commissioner Alonso: In the second case, we have not given an indication.of
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vse. -the,.`bone fit of that report, but new ,.Yo a' have to .day
for it. That's not fair to me. It's not fair co me in comparison with this
Commission. It's not fair to me in comparison with my colleagues here, and I
would...
Mayor Suarez: Is that a fair appraisal of what took place in regards to that
report -- whose content we won't go into necessarily - but presumably was -
important to the settlement of the case, if it's settled?
Mr,, Fernandez: It provided valuable information to us, and I'm sure that
those of you who got it, you know, also took it '.nto consideration. _
Mayor Suarez: Is it the kind of thing that war only requested of one side,
but would have... -
Mr. Rubin: Well, it was only necessary for one to be prepared one time
because'it included, encompassed, the entire case.
Mr..Fernandez: That is true.
Mr.Rubin: If the City was willing to pick up the cost of that, I'd be
willing to absorb thereat of the costs on my side.
Commissioner Dawkins: You told me in my office it was $10,000 and that they
absorbed five and you absorbed five. That's what you told me in my office.
Mr. Rubin: No, sir, that's a misunderstanding. I'm sorry.
Commissioner Alonso: Are you telling me that five thousand is the question of
the argument?
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Mr, Fernandez:- Yes. That is, in essence, what he had said. And on the basis
of that, I would recommend that we would consider then proceeding with the
entire settlement. _
Mayor Suarez: All right, but we have a motion on part of it and I didn't
think:that the reason that they were proposing splitting it was simply the
issue of. cost. I thought it was also the issue of not having sufficient
assurance. as to the money in your group, counselor, Mr. Rubin, and going
directly sufficiently to dependents and so on. If cost was the ;issue, then
" maybe we ,can rephrase the whole thing as encompassing the entire case.
Mr.- McCrary:,,Commissioner, Mr. Mayor...
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l the. :fact.that,:;you know, that they all absorb... the attorneys absorb the cost
of this situation.
Mayor, Suarez: All right, in the case of... let's take the two motions-
separately, and get a feel for how the Commission...
Commissioner Dawkins: I'd like to hear from Jesse McCrary first, please.
Mayor Suarez: Counselor.
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only Mr. Rubin had to, prepare, but Mr. Graff and I also had to prepare an
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civil rights violations around the country, and what the legitimate value of a
civil rights case was and what this Commission could expect in terms of a
verdict if this case was to go forward to trial. So my report, which I paid
for at your request, was done for the benefit of the entire case. Whereas the
Lloyd report specifically - and correct me if I'm wrong only dealt with the
Lloyd family specifically in terms of preparing their structured settlement.
Mayor Suarez: OK, I got you. I do want to clarify, Commissioner Dawkins
wants to make another comment and maybe inquirr that I would hope for this -
Commission, and I know I'm speaking for one, that this matter - if it was
otherwise going to be settled - would not fail to be settled today over
t $5,000. That would not make sense. I don't think it would be fair to this
whole community. So, if that's the main concern, I think we can fashion a
solution here that we could exempt somehow that $5,000. Commissioner Dawkins.
` Commissioner Dawkins: You know, maybe I'm being ticklish, but I heard
attorney Jesse McCrary say that they prepared a report. I think 1 heard
attorney Jesse McCrary say that they absorbed tho cost of that report. Then I
' heard the other gentleman say he prepared a report, and because he went
statewide and it had implications that this Commission may use, it cost $5,000
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to know for myself personally, and I don't want him to answer it for me - did
? that report help him in the preparation to win his case or did he just do itbecause the City of Miami asked him for it? No, he did as a lawyer, to gain
that information which he needed to convince a jury or whoever, that he was
right. So because he went out and did something that would help him to win
his case, I don't think it's fair for him to say that I owe $5,000 that I am
truly responsible for $5,000 that he incurred to help his case.
Mayor Suarez: But if that is the main obstruction, one of the Commissioners
may want to take back the...
Commissioner Dawkins: No, I second... you make Fn amendment motion?
Mayor Suarez: Yes, that's what I was suggesting, that maybe we ought to just
move to the whole thing.
Commissioner De Yurre: I think that the first motion we have now, right now,
on the floor is J.L.'s motion to approve half of - and that is Lloyd's part of
the settlement.
Mayor Suarez: OK, we can either do that first and then the entire thing,
or...
Commissioner De Yurre: And I seconded that, so vhy don't we put that one to a
vote?
Commissioner Dawkins: OK...
Mayor Suarez: All right, as to the Lloyd's section of the settlement, we have
a motion and a second. Any discussion? If not, please call the roll.
THEREUPON MOTION DULY MADE BY VICE MAYOR PLUMMER AND
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER DE YURRE, THE CITY COMMISSION
PROCEEDED TO UNANIMOUSLY ACCEPT AND AUTHORIZE PROPOSED
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SETTLEMENT WITH THE ESTATE OF CLEMENT ANTHONY LLOYD
AND HIS HEIRS AND BENEFICIARIES AT LAW FOR THE SUM OF
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COMMENTS MADE DURING ROLL CALL:
Vice Mayor Plummer: Let me just, for the record, make sure. Mr. McCrary,
Mr. McCrary% Yes,' sir.
Vice: May a Fiummeri This whendone by this Commission and -then filed by the
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Vice Mayor Plummer3 It's over?
Mr. McCrary: Yes, sir.
Vice Mayor Plummer: All of your people that you represent will sign releaeee
In behalf of the City that they will not come back at us again.
Mr. McCraryt Mr. Plummer, all of the people that we represent will have no
further cause of action against the City of Miami.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Wait a minute, wait a minute, the motion might be out of
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order. I haven't heard a second.
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Mayor Suarez: Counselor, yes.
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Mr. Fernandez: Yes, in order to clarify that motion, you all need to
understand that the bottom line remains the same. The only thing is that in
the computation of percentages, the $5,000 for expenses would be taken out
from the top and then all the other computations would be made on that basis.
That's the only thing that really makes this different from...
Mayor:SuareZs Did you say five? or...
Mr. Fernandez: Five. The last time I heard.
Mayor Suarez: OK, so you would understand then that if...
Commissioner De :Yurre: There is three scenarios in this case. One is, it
comes off the top and then.you get into percentages. Another one is, that you
divide.;twenty-five, seventy-five and then from the seventy-five, you take the
f full amount. And the third scenario is 25-75, and the 25, the attorneys'
fees, absorbs the cost. There's three different scenarios here.
Mayor. Suarez:- Were you suggesting, Mr. -City Attorney, that you understood
3 that Commissioner Plummer, Vice Mayor Plummer, was moving to require, in
E effect, the same thing that was voluntarily tendered by the other group as to
cost. The cost would not be included. Except as...
Mr. Fernandez:_ Well, the cost would not be an additional expense to the City,
would be comprehended within the $500,000 that they're getting, it's just that
how they -do the computation internally.
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{.: Mayor Suarez:We. all agree on that.
Mr. Fernandez: OK,`that's clear.`
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F motion is seconded by Commissioner Alonso, was not to delve into the issue ofy
cost°and -not to affect the relationship established between the attorneys and
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City' is free ;and-, clear 'and no further actions would to instigated- against the
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Mr,� Rubin:.,I can'give you the same'assurances that Mr. McCrary did doubled,
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kiayor Suarez: Substitute motion; Commissioner Do Yurre.
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e'ommeudod'"' settlement. However# that any cost incurred be absorbed by the'
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Mayor Suarez: So moved and seconded. Substitute motion understood? In
effect, they're being made to comply with what the other group tendered
voluntarily. All right? bid I explain it correctly? So moved and second.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Well, you know, Mr. Mayor, I would like to mote for that,
and I keep hoping out of this left ear I'm going to -hear the attorney make a
statement. j
Commissioner Alonso: I hope so.
j Vice Mayor Plummer: But I would hope, as you said...
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1 Mayor Suarez: Counselor, before the vote you may want to do precisely what
the Vice Mayor is suggesting, and come up with something in between that might
pass. Because this could be a two to two deadlock with I having to decide,
and'I may just walk out or something. Leave it at a two to two tie.
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Vice'Mayor Plummer: I can tell you how to make it feel better.
Mr, Rubin: I'm about to try to make it feel a little bit better. Self help
remedy. Since my costs exceed those of my colleagues, I'd be willing
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Mayor Suarez: All right, let me see if that wi:1 go with the...
Mr. Rubin: The report that I prepared - just so if I can explain it...
Mayor Suarez: That's five thousand.
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Mayor -Suarez: There will be no future cases like this, counselor.
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motion fails, then I'm going to make another mo•.ion that says that we settle
it. Ott? Just so that we don't go away from here losing this thing over
►,'. $5,000.
Commissioner Dawkins: What's fair enough.
Mayor Suarez: All right, call the roll.
THEREUPON ON MOTION DULY MADE BY COMMISSIONER DE YURRE
AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER DAWKINS, THE CITY
COMMISSION PROCEEDED TO UNANIMOUSLY ACCEPT AND
B AUTHORIZE PROPOSED SETTLEMENT WITH THE ESTATE OF ALLAN
BLANCHARD AND HIS HEIRS AND BENEFICIARIES AT LAW FOR
THE SUM OF $500,000.00 (M-91-274).
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COMMENTS MADE DURING ROLL CALL:
Vice Mayor Plummert As stated, I'm going to vote yes.
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Commissioner De Yurre: To cover the other five, and they pick up the other
twenty-five, and we settle this right here.
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this Commission has done...
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Vice Mayor Plummer: Hey, that's not fair. I'm sorry. Damnit, he has given
up his Cost and to ask him to give up somebody else's cost is not fair. I'm
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Commissioner De Yurre: No, but the fairness comes in whether he benefited
from that report or not. I don't know.
Vice Mayor Plummer: No, no, no. Victor, I'm.... hey, listen, that man has
given up what he had in his hand, and to ask him now to turn around and pick
up half of the other mans? No, that's not fair, I'm sorry. I would love for
him to"'give it up. He doesn't want to, that's his decision.
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Commissioner De Yurre: No, but, J.L... J.L., it's the excess.
Mayor Suarez: Vice Mayor Plummer, this is the way to get us on to the next
item, and ..
Commissioner Dawkins: Well, then go on to the next item.
Commissioner De Yurre: There's ten apiece...
Mayor Suarez: I have a feeling that they're going to settle among themselves
one way or the other, but this is perhaps about as good a way as any. And in
A million dollar settlement, I can't imagine $2,500 would be the main
impediment.- Just in interest, it will costthem more than $2,500.
Commissioner Dawkins: Move the agenda.
Mayor Suarez: OK, does anybody have any other motions on the matter? If not,
were going to go on to the next item.
Mr. Fernandez: Mr. Mayor, I need to be very clear, because this is my item as
I brought it to you.
Mayor Suarez: I was afraid of this. All right.
Mr. Fernandez:. And..:
Commissioner Dawkins:. I'll make it clear for yot,, sir. We have voted, and if
the losing side decide to go to court,.you have to be prepared to go to defend
us, air. That's as clear as I can make it.
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Mayor -Suarez:. We have voted to settle with both groups on terms specified.
It isn't clear that what will happen if both don't accept, and I guess we'll
needto hear back from you if, by any chance, th:.:t undoes the settlement"as to
the:one group that clearly has agreed.
Mr: "Fernandez:. That's a clarification I needed, thank you.
vice Mayor Plummer: Well, you know, I think we're setting a dangerous
dangerousprecedent. I think the reason that this Commission today is
entertaining the thought of settlement is not only in the interest of fairness
And what is morally right, but there's also one other factor. And that factor
is," what is the potential' that you could be hit with if you went toa jury?
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Mr. Fernandez:- Not only that, Mr. -Mayor, also.,. ;
Vice, Mayor Plummer: Can I finish?
Mr,='srnandogs Sorry, I thought you were finished, vise Mayor. I'm sorry.
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Mayor Suarez: Winds up and goes..,..
Vice Mayor Plummer: I've been here 21 years. 1 hope you make it, _
Mayor Suarez: I guarantee you... Let me put the guarantee right now, it will
hot be 21 years.
Vice Mayor Plummer: You know, I think that - and I'm not trying to make up
this attorney's mind - that's for him to do and him to decide, he's a
businessman as well as an attorney - but I would hate to go away from this
table today thinking that there was that possibility that this case is not
behind us. I really would hate to do that, and I would like to see this case ='
behind us. I think we all would. And I just... _
Mayor Suarez: Can I do something here for a +second without putting into the
record how it is that you all would split that $5,000. Are you both able to
take five minutes and just report that the issue of the $5,000 has somehow_
been resolved among you without having to put in the record how? Does that
shake sense, Jesse?
Mr. McCrary: Mr: Mayor, if two grown men talking about a million dollars with i
people) want to get up here and quibble with this Commission over $5,000 - and
I .depart from, my colleagues here - this Commission, along with your staff,
over two years has agonized in this community with this very issue. I had
E hoped that I could get here to say as, Gerald Ford said when he took over from
_( Richard Nixon, that this long nightmare is now behind us, And for us to now
argue and quibble about $5,000 I think is absolutely unprofessional. It does
a disservice to those people that we are fighting for. It does a disservice
--� to the good work that your staff has done, and the good faith of this
Commission. I would respectfully ask you, take your vote, whatever you vote,
I appreciate what you've done for my clients and I will stand by whatever you
do.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Well, the vote has been taken, Jesse.
Mayor Suarez: I was hoping that... i
Mr. Greff: I.would tell the Commission that, in my opinion, on behalf of the
Lloyd group, that we will resolve the issue one way or the other. If we can,
on;the'entire issue.
Mayor. Suarez: I will entertain a... well, how about this? If you both can
state that on the record, I think we can have a motion that settles the entire
thing at.$1 000,000 with the issue of the $5,000 for that particular report to
be resolved among you fellows. And if it isn't, then we don't have a
settlement But that will be the condition. And all of the cost will be
absorbed by your respective clients. How's that?
Mr. Rubins I'm sorry, I didn't get the last part.
Mayor Suarez: And all of the costs will be absorbed by your respective
clients,
Commissioner Dawkins: Wait a minute, no, no, no. No, we're not going to go
back and change the first one now. No, no, no.
ice Mayor Plummer: No, no, that's not what they voted for. j
Commissioner Dawkins: We've already settled the first part of it. We're not
' going to go:back-and kill both parts of it now because we're killing his part.
-ayor Suareza - If the two attorneys were going to say on the record that they
could; solve the $5,000 among themselves to get this matter settled, who are we
to stand.. in their way? We could settle the entire matter with all coasts to bef
absorbed by their..
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Commissioner De Ygrre:
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Mr, Greff: We've just
If they accept) and work it out among themselves, then
comes into play and that's it and it's settled.
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Mr. Fernandez: ...that's the best that we. , . ye 4, via those two individuals,
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THEREUPON THE CITY COMMISSION, ON MOTION DULY MADE BY:
COMMISSIONER DE YURRE AND SECONDED BY VICE MAYOR
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PLUMMER, PROCEEDED TO RESCIND PRIOR VOTE ON THE
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AUTHORIZING OF CLAIM SETTLEMENT WI:.tH THE ESTATE OF
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ALLAN BLANCHARD, DECEDENT. (M-274.1)
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The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner De Yurre, who
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RESOLUTION NO. 91-275
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A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE DIRECTOR OF FINANCE TO
PAY TO THE ESTATES OF ALLAN BLANCHARD, DECEDENT, AND
CLEMENT ANTHONY LLOYD, DECEDENT, A11D TO CERTAIN HEIRS
AND BENEFICIARIES AT LAW, THE SUM OF $500,000.00, FOR
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TO PURCHASE ANNUITIES FOR THE USE AND BENEFIT OF
CHILDREN,
PARENTS, BROTHERS AND SISTERS OF THE TWO
DECEDENTS WITHOUT ANY ADMISSION OF LIABILITY, IN FULL
AND COMPLETE SETTLEMENT OF ANY AND ALL CLAIMS, ACTIONS
AND DEMANDS AGAINST THE CITY OF MIAMI AND CERTAIN
OTHER DEFENDANT(S), UPON EXECUTION OF APPROPRIATE
RELEASES, RELEASING THE CITY FROM ALL CLAIMS AND
DEMANDS, WITH SAID FUNDS THEREFOR BEING ALLOCATED FROM
THE SELF-INSURANCE AND INSURANCE TRUST FUND, AND UPON
APPROVAL OF THE SETTLEMENTS BY THE PROBATE
COURT/GUARDIANSHIP DIVISION OF THE CIRCUIT COURT AS
MAY BE REQUIRED BY LAW.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
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file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote:,
AYES: Commissioner Victor De Yurre
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
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Commissioner Miriam Alonso
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Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
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property? I am assuming you had appraisals done.
Mr. Odio: yes, we do,
Vice Mayor Plummers I'm taking the same track here that I do on all that we,
the City, are entitled to a ten percent return on our money just like any good
investment.
Mr. Jack Luft: Two hundred thousand dollars a year.
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Mr. Luft: The appraised value is two million dollars.
Vice Mayor Plummer: You have more than one+ appraisal?
Mr. Luft: We had two appraisals...
Vice Mayor Plummer: And what was...
Mr. Luft: .,,and the high was two million.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Was 2 million?
Mr. Luft: That's right.
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Vice Mayor Plummer: And the low?
Mr. Luft: Million nine, million eight.
Vice Mayor Plummer: All right, and how long is this proposed lease for?
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Vice Mayor Plummer: That tells me nothing.
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Now, in the proposal that we submitted, it contained a pro forma that would.
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itx., What.we care in when we 'get the land back. Is it a 20 year lease or do
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Commissioner Alonsot Twenty year lease beeauae'lt's balloon at the end of the
20 year.
Vice Mayor Plummert All right. Are you willing to put up the first year's,..
Commissioner Dawkins: J.L., let me ask a question. Let me ask a question
before you get carried away here.
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Mayor Suarezt The Vice Mayor yields. We're getting formal here today.
Commissioner Dawkins: OK. Does this propert- come under the Joe Carollo
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amendment?
Mr. Knox: Yes, sir.
Mr. Odiot Oh, yes, sir. Yes, sir.
Commissioner Dawkins: All right, well where are the three bids?
Mr. Odio: No, there's only one and it would have to go...
Mayor Suarez: That's a helluva name for an amendment, but...
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Commissioner Dawkins: No, no, no.
Mayor Suarez: ...it's there, I guess.
Commissioner Alonso: That's why it has to go to the voters.
Mr. Odio: It has to go to the voters, Commissios::er.
Commissioner Dawkins: Beg your pardon?
Mr. Odio: This, you .cannot approve this. The voters of Miami
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approve this. Not us. It would have to be played...
Mayor. Suarez: -Well,.we approve placing it before them.
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voters decide.
.._,- Commissioner Alonso: That's right.
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put It. out?
cam`` Mr. Odio: In .sixty days we would° have to have a final agreement worked out,
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rY Mayor Suarez: And then the Commission is what hoa asking,
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Mayor Suarers, Does the Commission get to look at the details
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could; move the years up or ;down,
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Mr. Odios Well, what they now need to sit... After your..s this approval in
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principle...
Vice Mayor Plummer: Right.
Mr. Odio: .,.they have to come back to us within 60 days and show us and our
CPAs the financial plan,
Vice Mayor Plummer: Now, I will conclude by reminding you of one other thing.
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Mr. Odio: Yes, sir.
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Commissioner Dawkins: Mr. Mayor, I have one thing.
Mayor Suarez: Commissioner Dawkins.
Commissioner Dawkins: Mr. Knox.
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Commissioner Dawkins: I was told that because of the financial climate, that
you might need 90 days instead of the 60 days. is that correct?
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Mr. Knox: At this point, we are operating on a 60 day schedule, Commissioner.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Well, you have the problem of making the referendum, so
it's up to you to move.
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Mr. Knox: And that's the reason why we must complete it within 60 days
because we have to have it finished by the middle of July so that we can make,'
the September ballot.
Mr. Odio: You won.'t be able to make the ballot. If you.don't do it in 60
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Commissioner Alonso: They say they will meet the 60 days.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Oh, well they say they're trying to' operate on a 60...
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Commissioner Alonso: Yes,
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Mayor Suarez: One last at least one question .for.myself, and I'm pretty
sure what the answer, is, but I'm going to put it on the.record.. May I assume
that the lease will have the usual take back provision where we can get the
land back by paying: the unamortized 'part of .any fixed costs that they have:
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incurred up to that point?: -so that future generations may -.change their minds
entirely, buy them out. If they've amortized most of the cost, we'd pay
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Mr. Luft: Yes,'that's what we can include'in the negotiations..,
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Mayor Suarez; To make suro•that it's in there.
Commissioner. Alonso: That's includedin all of the other leases that we
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ema4iseionor pawl4in8s lt's not in the Monty Trainer iesae,
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Commissioner Alonao: It's not in the Monty Trainer lease?
Mayor Suarezi The new ones, the new ones that we've done. Not the existing
ones that we've had to..,
Vice Mayor Plummer: That does not mean a hill of beans unless you also write
in that we have the right of approval over any plans and construction,
Mayor Suarezi And with the right of approval over any construction that is
done, so that we don't then have to absorb n-lore unamortized costs than we
would like to, to take the land back and use it for a different purpose,
Vice Mayor Plummer: Right.
Mayor Suarez: OK?
Vice Mayor Plummer: It's like the Dade County School Board. You've seen
these new schools? -they're building monuments to themselves, not schools,
they're building monuments. They wonder why they ran out of money.
Mayor Suarez: All those clarifications. Do we have a motion? I under...
Vice Mayor Plummer: So move.
Mayor Suarez: There we go.
Commissioner Alonso: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Seconded. Any further discussion? If not, please call the
roll.
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The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 91-276
A RESOLUTION APPROVING 'IN PRINCIPLE THE SELECTION OF
BAYSIDE SEAFOOD RESTAURANT, INC., AND VIRGINIA KEY
MARINA ASSOCIATES, INC., AS THE SUCCESSFUL PROPOSER
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FOR THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT OF THE VIRGINIA KEY BASIN-
PROPERTY SUBJECT TO THE SAID PROPOSER PRODUCING
SUFFICIENT EVIDENCE TO DEMONSTRATE WITHIN 60 DAYS, THE
FORMATION OF THE LEGAL ENTITY AUTHOEIZED TO IMPLEMENT
THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT PROJECT AND THEIR FINANCIAL
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CAPABILITY TO SUCCESSFULLY UNDERTAKE AND COMPLETE THE
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PLANNING AND DESIGN, CONSTRUCTION, LEASING AND
MANAGEMENT OF A RESTAURANT WITHANCILLARY MARINE -
RELATED COMMERCIAL AND RECREATIONAL USES ON
APPROXIMATELY 2.88 ACRES OF CITY -OWNED WATERFRONT
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PROPERTY;' AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE `CITY MANAGER
TO: NEGOTIATE AN AGREEMENT WITH -SAID PROPOSER TO
INCLUDE CERTAIN TERMS AND CONDITIONS (MORE
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PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED, HEREIN) AND TO COMPLY WITH THE.
CITY'S MINORITY PROCUREMENT PROGRAM' ORDINANCE
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REQUIREMENTS AND OTHER APPLICABLE LAWS• AND FURTHER
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DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO PRESENT THE NEGOTIATED
AGREEMENT TO THE CITY COMMISSION FOR _ITS REVIEW,
CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL PRIOR TO ITS EXECUTION;
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FURTHER PROVIDING THAT THE HEREIN SELECTION OF BAYSIDE
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SEAFOOD RESTAURANT, INC., AND VIRGINIA KEY MARINA,
INC., AS THE SUCCESSFUL PROPOSER DOES NOT CONFER ANY
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CONTRACTUAL RIGHTS UPON SAID PROPOSER UNLESS AND UNTIL,—
THE- PROPOSED AGREEMENT HAS BEEN EXECUTED BY THE CITY
OF MIAMI AND THERE HAS BEEN A FAVORABLE VOTE BY THE
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ELECTORATE AS REQUIRED BY CITY CH J(TER SECTION 29-rB;
FURTHER' RESERVING THE RIGHT TO DISGTNTINUE NEGOTIATION
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WITH SAID PROPOSER IF DEEMED TO BE Its BEST INTEREST OF
THE '• CITY WITHOUT INCURRING ANY FINANCIAL OR LEGAL
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Upon being seconded by Commissioner Alonso, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following votes
AYESs Commissioner Victor De Yurre
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Miriam Alonso
Vice Mayor J, L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES None,
ABSENT: None,
COMMENTS MADE DURING ROLL CALL:
Commissioner Dawkins: I'm voting yes with the understanding that I have a
problem with the 35 years, and I'll be negotiating down. Because like the
Mayor said, I don't think that my grandson shoule be prevented from bidding on this if he wants to at 20 years instead of 35.
Mr. Odio: Commissioner Dawkins, let me...
Commissioner Dawkins: I vote yes.
Mr. Odio: Let me clarify, Commissioner, it's i0 years lease. It's not 35.
It's a 20 year lease.
Mayor Suarez: OK, we haven't yet approved it so I guess you have an
indication that we do want to stick to a shorter term.
COMMENTS MADE FOLLOWING ROLL CALL•
Mr. Knox: Thank you very much.
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27. (A) DISCUSSION CONCERNING PROPOSED RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING SUBMISSION
OF APPROVED ' GRANT PROGRAM FINAL ST.,TEMENT TO U.S. DEPARTMENT OF
HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT (HUD), SEEKING $12,613,000 FOR
CITY'S PROPOSED COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM 1991-1992. (See
label 32).
(B) ACCEPT STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS TO A',?PROVE SOCIAL SERVICE PROGRAMS
withprovisos).,
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(C) REFER REGIS HOUSE FUNDING REQUEST TO ADMINISTRATION FOR POSSIBLE
FUNDING THROUGH LAW ENFORCEMENT TRUST FUND.
(D) ` FIRST READING ORDINANCE: ESTABLISEi NEW SPECIAL REVENUE. FUND:,
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COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT (SEVENTEENTH YEAR) -
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APPROPRIATE '$120613,000 FROM DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING ,AND URBAN
DEVELOPMENT (HUD) GRANT AWARD, A11D $1,400,000 FROM COMMUNITY
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DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT PROGRAM INCOME (SEVENTEENTH YEAR) (TOTALNl
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Mayor Suarez: Item CDBG. What item is that?
Commissioner Dawkins: Thirty-three.
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social programs, which I understand to be no mo.a than 15 percent of the total
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Mr, frank Castaneda: Yes, that's correct.
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ve asked Commissioner De Yurre to handle. Somehow he
through this based on one time that I was not here for
hope he'll help me in his usual effective way. And we
spment portion of it whict. is the other 85 percent, and
real real big items. Of course, we've all heard the
HUD request, and Miami-D+xde Community College, I know,
7e. And God knows how many others. I think - I was 41
ise, but I think they ictually come under a social
then are askin¢ for a raauast under seciai nrnarame.
Mayor Suarez: Are they being recommended by staff for either one of the two?
Mr. Castaneda: No, we just don't have the money this year. No.
Mayor Suarez: The editorials we're going to get plenty of from them, just
please - thank you.
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Commissioner Alonso: Mr. Mayor...
Mayor Suarez: Yes, Commissioner Alonso.
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Commissioner Alonso: ...may I introduce all of these letters in support of
Centro Hater in the record, please?
Mayor Suarez: There we go. All the letter in support of Centro Hater are z
part of the record. Somebody knows how to do a letter writing campaign.
Commissioner Alonso: Yes, indeed. They came across loud and clear. i
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Mayor Suarez: We have the request here of the different people who want to
address this. If anyone hasn't, who wants to yddress us on this item, hasn't
filled one of these, please get one from the Clerk. One other question. Is
there an issue on - talking about Centro Hater on the child care programs
that has to do with our estimation that they may be receiving funds later on?
Shall we take that as a separate issue and try to get -that resolved now?
G Commissioner Alonso: Yes, and that is a very serious concern of mine that I
' like; to put in the record. Whatever decision we take, I think we have to t
consider if things don't go the:way we expect to go, what are we going to do
with this day care centers? -because we are func;ing them for four months, and
then for the rest of the year what's going to happen? }
i:. Mr. Castaneda: Right, Commissioners.
Mayor Suarez: And in clarifying that, Frank, remind me - and I should know
x-. this, but I don't are those funds also part ,of the entire package?
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Mayor..Suarers: Or are they totally separate allocations for only... 's.•
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Mr. Castaneda; No, they are part of the entire package,
Mayor Suarers Under social services, obviously,
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0. GBst>ilA4443,. It' -Aboui $200,000approximately, Beaaus what ws "Have ;get
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Mayor Suarez: Or twos -thirds.
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Mr. Odio: And when we say we should keep that in reserve until that's
finalized. And if...
Mayor Suarez: Two-thirds of $200,000 is not that, but I guess you know your
math, so...
Mr. Castaneda: No. Two -forty, two hundred forty thousand.
Commissioner Alonso: Yes, and maybe what we sh"juld do, say if this money is
not used and it's going to be allocated to...
Mr. Castaneda: That is correct.
Commissioner Alonso: ...whatever group or organization. But it will be
preserved and we will have an obligation to fund them if it's not used for...
if the money from the state doesn't come across.
Mayor Suarez: If we obtain it from the state, et cetera.
Mr. Castaneda: Correct, Commissioner.
Commissioner Alonso: OK.
Mayor Suarez: Is there anyone from Centro Mater or from the other child care
agencies that had this as its major concern, that can come up to the mike and
just be absolutely sure you understand.
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Vice Mayor Plummer: Mr. Mayor...
Mr. Odio: Yes.
Mayor:. Suarez: If this were to pass, you know, the implications of what
Commissioner Alonso just said.
' Commissioner Alonso: All of them are in the same situation, Christian.,.
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' Mayor Suarez: Right. Vice Mayor,:I kind of didn't let you... We're pursuing
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p1 Vice Mayor Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I am extremely concerned that the price of
administration has gone up again, What I -am looking at here in the documents
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' 20 percent- of the ;,total monies are going for administration. I want to tell
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what is this? -the 17th year,.. Thank you, you're now in trouble. The long-
standing policy that I have with social programs will remain in effect and
that is that we take care of the sick, we fee-1 the hungry, and if there's
anything left over, we'll talk about it. But at this particular time, Mr,
Manager, I must tell you that it is totally unacceptable to me of 20 percent
for administration. And I definitely plan on attacking and reducing the cost
of administration. Thank you, Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Suarez: OK, thank you. Commissioner Dawkins.
Commissioner Dawkins: Mr. Manager, you're saying that you're going to reduce
day care by "X" dollars because day care will receive state or federal
funding. Is that a correct statement?
Mr. Castaneda: That's correct, Commissioner.
Commissioner Dawkins: All right. Is it, Frank, within the law, to earmark
that money now for food for the elderly? And I want it locked in now so that
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elderly. Is that legal?
Mr. Odio: Yes, sir.
Mr. Castaneda: Yes.
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the motion and I see my colleague nodding her head. She'll be seconding the
motion and we're going to lock that money up just to feed the elderly. Go
ahead. Thank you, Mr. Mayor.
Commissioner Alonso: Of course I will.
Mayor.Suarez: OK, very good. Miriam, on what Commissioner Alonso mentioned
is it clear to you that you are protected? It is not in any way contradicted
by what Commissioner Dawkins stated because the funds would be held in
abeyance incase the funds were not forthcoming from the state.
Ms. Roman:. Yes. However, I have...
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Ms. Roman:, Yes, my name is Miriam Roman, I am aepresent Centro Mater located
at 418 S.W. 4th Avenue. And my concern is that we don't expend evenly
throughout the month. Our month that we have more need those funds are, -the
summer because the after school children are fuil day during summer ,camp 'and
we do not have funds from:. Head Start., -So instead of receiving .the amount
proposed by the City of twenty-one - almost $21,000 - we will need at least
$38,000 to meet our needs during the July, August, and September. That is the
first things that I would like that amount to.hv,-changed ,now, because we don't
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want to have to come here .in one. or two months. And the second thing is that
I would'like the City of Miami Commission be aware...
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Mayor:Suareps Even from our perspective. I mean, just the hassle of having
to.deal with it -one month earlier...
Ms. i gman: •_ Exactly. `.
fayor: Suarez: ...s«o if. we were now doing three -twelfths, maybe we ' -:Vera
doing.., no, we were doing four -twelfths, I guess." Weweredoing,* e-t LrC
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would you return to us the money? No, they cannot.
Mr. Odio: See, that's why... I asked first, when
care, can't we give the full amount and when they
we get refunded. And it doesn't work that way.
Mayor Suarez: OK, because one -twelfth...
Commissioner Alonso: Well, how do we do it?
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receive the other funds, can
Mayor Suarez: ...yes, one month, by the we•y, just let me just
figures, it's not a large figure. One -twelfth of $200,000 is like,
$1$,000 or something.
Mr. Odio: I tell you what we could do.
Mayor Suarez: Giving them a extra month to be al,le to make that transition is
not going to make or break this whole process given that they're accepting...
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Mr. Odio: OK, but we should know by July if they're getting those other
funds. What we can do...
Mayor Suarez: I can see them rushing to banks or to us, as a bank, and we're
going to see them here again.
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Ms. Roman: ...we will have...
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Ms. Roman: We will have... right now I know I will need...
Mayor Suarez: Administratively, Miriam. We will give them the power
administratively to do that without having to come to us, get a hearing date,
get our approval so you won't be out of...
Mr. Odios The same thing applies to all of them.
Commissioner Alonso: For all of them. Exactly.
Mayor Suarez: OK, on all...
Commissioner Alonso: It's exactly for all of them. Not only Centro Meter,
but it will be for all of them.
Mr. Odio: That's right.
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Commissioner Alonso: OK. Fine.
Mayor Suarez: OK, and you have our guarantee that money will be there, and
he'll have administrative authority to cover you until the state monies are
received.
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Vice Mayor Plummer: Where is the sheet on the social programs? I didn't get '
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Mr. Odio: It's in your package.
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If it's the same issue, we're going to cover all of them.
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Ms. Nilsa Velazquez: I think you need to hear from me a little.
Mayor Suarez: Name and address,- please.-
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+v, Cross Day Care Center. I've been involved in th-.s state law, with`the federal _'
law for child development block grants. �
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�-, because otherwise, we'vegot other people on many°°other -issues, Nilsa* $
L Ms, Velazquez: Well, let me,.. I want to express the importance of these
OoAjOs arenet to- supplant, but to supplement. And they ';are. telli�nS e. tip i ti
peas;: e,sin no to plea+pa, to explain -� that these monies►e AQ to .be.
supp uteri Whou .tbls happens and...you out 66 percenV or whatever, by ,Ooath,- sa►:.;
cut..y u're still ,cuttinj slots and those men os ark coming �o�
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existing ones so that we can provide decent salaries to our employees and
benefits. Which up to now, they get the minimum salary, and maybe a little
over, So we want to make the profession of... child care a profession, not a
vocation. And this is what you should consider when allocating the funds for
child care.
Commissioner Alonso: That's right, I'm glad that you mentioned that, because
in the City of Miami, the people that work in day care centers for 15 years,
they have kept at part time, and with salaries that are very low. And I'm
very upset about that. So, I'm glad that you mentioned that it is, is a
profession.
Ms. Velazquez: And my other concern that is for everyone, not only for child
care, but when considering the allocations or considering the recommendations
from the staff, we, after so many years that we have been cut every year, we
finally got an increase. And we were expecting to at least get a five percent
increase on our budget, because we have to increase our personnel salaries,
and the cost of living increase goes up, not dorn. So all the programs need
that benefit, instead of opening new programs.
Mayor Suarez: All right, let me...
Vice Mayor Plummer: There's a lot of people i.o this town that would be happy
just to have a job today.
Unidentified Speaker: Amen.
Ms. Adker: Right.
Commissioner Alonso: That's very difficult, tha'.'s right.
Mayor Suarez: On all matters, here's the procedures, both as to social
service programs... Well, let me do it as to social service programs, the 15
percent. I have all the requests to speak. I am going to give you under the
Code, exactly two minutes. What I would suggest from my fellow Commissioners
is - it's worked awfully well in the past - let them give us their point of
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view. Try, to the extent possible, to go with the recommendations, and if we
think any exceptions ought to be made, we do is at the very end of all the
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handled this meeting one day, and apparently he- went right through it and a
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we're going to hold everybody to two minutes, and we get into theeconomic
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development we're going to have to give them a little bit more time, because
those items are obviously of greater import, but the social service items, you
get two minutes to state your position. If you didn't get monies or if you
didn't get as much as you thought. If you have more than one person, as I see
'here, speaking on the same item, I suggest you let one person do the arguing
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because it just gets repetitive, frankly, and we're pretty familiar with most
of these. We hear them every year, so... I see you at the mike, Anne Marie.
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Ms. Adker; I'm Anne Marie Adker, and I am a member of the Community
Development Advisory Board. My issue here is a complaint. I -want to know why
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their community. We're getting to a problem here, and you know the staff does
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appdintinB anybodyto that advisory board and .lust allow the communities to
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"Mayor Sasarers Thank you. We've dons that in the past, and at one point, it
generated ` a lot of community participation which was a good thing, i forget
why, we abaDdonsd it. l: have a €saiin$ that we started getting lose
participation. Juanita,
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Me. Lottie Hines: I too, Lottie Hines, I sit on the Citywide board... I sit
on the Citywide board and 1 hate to disagree with staff so much. Because we
sit there and make a lot of recommendations, You kn6w, you take a lot of our
time to beat it to these meetings, to sit there, make recommendations, and
what happens? It's all down here, staff doesn't like it, or staff doesn't
approve it. But all the money is going into administration. We sit there, we
vote for monies to go into low income housing and all that. When you're
taking on all these new organizations that come up over night. Therefore, we
go back and burn down Liberty City and we'll come back and get some more
money, if that's the case. Because when you sit up and look that we have come
here before. We talked about money. And there is no money set aside for it.
It's about two or three years ago. I'm one of the founders of OTAC (Overall
Tenant Advisory Council). We came down here, we asked you for $250,000, OK?
We got that little bit of money. But you all have housing in the City. There
is problems in the City, and when you sit and look at it, you've got problems
all in Havana and everywhere else, and you take this paper and you look all
over it and see where the bulk of this money if going. Now, I've been very
ill this past year, but I went to these meetings and I'm there. When I don't
make them, I'm in the hospital somewhere. But when I make them the
recommendation, and because I'm there on the board, you must thought something
of me for me to be there. The residents did, or whomever. And when we sit
there and as a board, we make recommendations. We sit here and staff does
not - I like you, Frank - but, Frank, I don't like what you're doing. And
that's how I feel.
Mayor Suarez: What is the recommendation that you least agreed with in which
they differ from yours?
Ms. Hines: OK, you know I listened to the lad3 from Holy Cross, all right?
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That's from Wynwood. Am I correct? All right, V'ynwood jumped up, you have on
here $50,000 going to Wynwood. Holy Cross is talking about their day care
centers. Sure, but then when we look around, we have a lot more that's on
here. Housing, you gave four... they recommended four million for housing.
They give little housing nothing. OK? So my recommendation to the board then
was, OK, you're going to put four million there give Little HUD twomillion
and give the other two million to housing.
Mayor Suarez: OK. Very good.
Ms. Adker: Wait a minute. Are you taking the :tacommendations now?
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Mayor Suarez: All right, Lottie. Mariano, and then...
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Vice Mayor Plummer: He's not a social program.
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Mr. Rojas: OK. The reason we are today because we are asking for the Latin
Quarter Association, as you know, all the Commissioners, the City Manager
know, and the Frank Castaneda knows, the hard work that we are doing for the
Latin Quarter Association, City of Miami. We urge you people to recognize
what we are doing over there. We are working for so many years, and we have
an outside cafe. We are working for the area to make the Latin Quarter going
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on. Actually, we have nothing doing because unfortunate, we don't have money
to work it out with the merchants and everybody in the area. So, what are we
asking, Commissioners, Mayor, please, recognize what we are doing. And it's
very hard work that we are doing. Spends all my times, and along with the
Victor Pinion and we like him to take opportunity also to say something about
Mr. Victor Pinzon: We are the Latin Quarter Association. < We are doing:..
Mayor Suarez:- Name and address.
Mr.--Pinzon: My name is Victor Pinion, executive director; of the Latin Quarter
r Association. We're a little different than most of these fine groups in the
objectives =.that we have. The association, what we are trying to do is to
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;,. millions of dollars of investments to service a market that is going unserved
of millions of tourists that come to Miami to see services, food, and all
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':. oU Miami. And we.again:respectfully request that fundsof the government, the
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federal government, be provided just a drop to us of $50,000. Thank you.
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Vice Mayor Plummer: Wait, wait, wait. That money was supposedly coming out
of that money from the Camillus House. Why is it corning out of here? I
Mr. Castaneda: This is another allocation for tre second year.
Mr. Cruz: That's what they told me. The reason they told me that the money
was taken out, staff didn't recommend it, $100,000 for the parks, because the
money was going to taken from those parks and given to trauma, Jackson. I
think Jackson...
Vice Mayor Plummer: Frank, I'm sorry, I'm missirg something.
Mr. Cruz: That's a lot of problem.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Why, if the money that -ins allocated for the Camillus
House is now going to fund the Jackson Trauma :enter, why would have have to
take the $100,000 away from them?
Mr. Castaneda: My understanding was that the $300,000 that we allocated last
year - I'm sorry, two weeks ago - was for last year's allocation. But now we
are into the second year of the $300,000 payment. And that we had to make it
$300,000 allocation on a yearly basis.
Commissioner De Yurre: But we had a million and a half dollars for Camillus
House.
Vice Mayor Plummer: We had a million and a half for the Camillus House. So
why would this park have to suffer?
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we took out $300,000 for the trauma center, and the Commission put $700,000
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Commissioner De Yurre: Now, we had one and a half million.
Mr. Castaneda: No, we only have one in CD.
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and a half and what was the other $500,000?
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time...
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than three years.,
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Mayor. Suarez: -,No, no, no. Not.me. I'm not going to vote to net aside a
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Commissioner 'Dawkins: OK, well I'm getting ready to see if, we canrt settle
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Commissioner Dawkins: Mr. Mayor, Mr, Mayor.
Mayor Suarez: Yes, Commissioner Dawkins inquiring.
Commissioner Dawkina: What was the amount of money the City of Miami promised
for the trauma center? Promised, the total amourt..
Mr. Cruz: A million and a half.
Vice Mayor Plummer: A million five.
Mr. Odio: One million, five hundred thousand dollars in five years.
Commissioner Dawkins: One million, five hundred thousand dollars. OK.
Commissioner Alonso: Five years.
Mayor Suarez: In five years. So it was $300,OOC a year.
Commissioner Dawkins: All right, OK, all right, now. And then came a million
dollar windfall which you didn't know you were gc;ing to have.
Mr. Odio: Yes.
Commissioner Dawkins: You know, we can sit up sere and procrastinate and do
what you want to do, but if all five Commissioners up here were going home and
got in a serious automobile accident, two of us might not be able to be
serviced at Jackson Memorial at the trauma center. Because they don't have
the space.
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Commissioner Dawkins: So I'm in favor, since you got the million dollars...
didn't you say that we get reimbursed this money come from some place?
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Commissioner Dawkins:: Pay a million dollars that we got there in reserve,
give it to the trauma center, and then when they reserve it, you put it back
in the money when it's paid back.
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r� represents the trauma center told me that he was going back to them and say
that if they -would not settle, instead of a million five, for a million
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Overtown,-LittleHaiti, So to start with, so you're adding insult :to iAjtry
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Community Development and through our taxes from the City, we built basketball
court and everything right there in Allapattah fir the children. Because the
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County forget about them, you know, and that's wrong. With the experience we
got, another experience, they say that affordable. No, they say we're going
to put scattered site housing. One, two duplexes, They put nine duplexes in
one block. I told Mr. Adams at the beginning, let's paint every duplex
different. No, they came and they paint then, institutional green. All of
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the neighborhood, no. Remember, Xavier, that was,..
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Mayor Suarez: Please, please, please, please.
Mr. Cruz: That was, that was...
Mayor Suarez: Please, please, ma'am. Wait, wait, wait. You're out of order.
And anybody who is out of order is not going to make it through all of the
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Mr. Cruz: And, another thing...
Mayor Suarez: Everybody has a chance to have their say. But finish up,
Mariano, because you've commented on a lot of different things now.
Mr. Cruz: Right. I pay $11,000 federal tax last year, so I can talk, right?
I got my W-2 form here.
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asked for money. I've been to the budget hearings of the County. Whenever
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City of Miami? I remember that, because I was at the budget hearing. When
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Because I know now we're asking you, did you go first to the County, economic
development? And you ask to the Community Development, how .much...
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Mr. Cruz: ...Ernest Martin's giving any money?
Mayor Suarez: OK, please, please.
Mr, Cruz: Right.
Mayor Suarez: We're doing that with everybody.
Mr, Cruz: I know, because I know. what the places are because I pay'money, I
want to make sure ;that it's spent properly. I pay eleven thousand - and I
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they're good for.the children there for the play1rounds and. that. We need all,
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that. And it's wrong, the people come here whL.n the county executive got a'
banofit package of ;,7 - 8 million dollars and you know that the executive
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that benefit packgs they got there, and give it to public housing too.
Because you know the people make over $100,000 a year. How many people make
over $100,000 in the County? A lot of them. Pius,..
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at 4:00 o'clock. I appreciate the remarks by
regard to the trauma center, and obviously the trauma
to the City of Miami for your contribution. I'm also
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Vice Mayor Plummer: When I say that, they tell me they pay me all that I'm
worth. Be careful.
Mr. Tate: Well, that's probably true. That'n probably true. But I do want
you to know that...
Vice Mayor Plummer: He just lost.
Mr. Tate: ...HUD, Dade County HUD, has spent in the last ten years on housing
in the City of Miami, in excess of $51,000,000. And that is an absolute
concrete fact. From the City of Miami, CDBG money amounted to .675 thousand
dollars.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Yes, but wait a minute now.
Mr. Tate: I'm not going to get into the argument with you.
Vice Mayor Plummer: No, no, no. You can't go away from that microphone
making that kind of a statement without making she full statement. The City
of Miami is the only municipality in Dade County that passed a $25,000,000
bond issue. Let's tell the truth.
Commissioner Alonso: That's right.
Mr. Tate: All right, I have no problem with that. I have no problem with
that:';—
Mayor Suarez:All right. Thank you.
Mr. Tate: What we're really here for is I'm here to support whatever
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assistance the City of Miami can give to the County in regard to a program
that has been undertaken through a whole new involvement bringing onboard Mr.
Earl Phillips, who is the deputy director. We've done an outstanding job
after a miserable job for many, many, many years. I could tell you national
HUD was down here two weeks ago, and it was a pleasure to hear their comments.
I tm sure you saw it written up in the Miami Herald. There was an editorial -
about it We've` done an outstanding job. The City of Miami housing,' which
amounts to approximately 60 percent of the total housing that we control in
HUD, about 7,000 units, can justifiably be proud on what we've; committed to
do, We need your help. I'm here to thank you in advance. I'm sorry I have
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Miami. And thank you very much.
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Coi sio er Dawkinai ...tell the people at the public health' trust that
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Commissioner Dawkins: Because I, no, no, no, no. Tell them that I think it's
irresponsible of them to be selfish enough to say that if we can't get half of
it, we don't want anybody to have any of it, And they should be going for the ,
whole penny to go to Jackson Memorial. That's wtat I.... j
Mr. Tate: Commissioner, let me assure you I was in Tallahassee all day
yesterday. That bill will be coming out of the legislature. The
Commissioners will have the opportunity to be heard, be examined by the people
of Dade County, including the City of Miami, for whatever actions they decide
to take. And if, in fact, they decide not to put it on the ballot, I can only
say, they will only have to be answered to at the ballot place.
Commissioner Dawkins: What day is that so that ]. can be in Tallahassee?
Mr. Tate: It's going to come out of committed on Monday or Tuesday. We met
with Mike Abrams on the House and Carrie Meek in the Senate. Both bills
seemingly will go through, but it will be for a referendum at the County. The
County Commission then have to elect to pass it, then put it on the ballot.
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Vice Mayor Plummer: Let me go one step further than my colleague. It
disturbs me if the County plays the shuffle game of the lottery, OK? The
lottery money was to go to educaticn, instead of all of
it...(APPLAUSE) ... instead of all of the money going to education, the state
took back part of that funding that they used :o give them. If I find out
that the County Commission is going to take back part of the money they now
give to Jackson if this half cent passes, I'm going to go out and vote against
Mr. Tate: Commissioner, the way the bill is now proposed...
Commissioner Alonso: That's right.
Mr. Tate: ...and as it ended last night at. 8:00 o'clock in. Mike Abrams
office, it specifically says it has to go to Jackson Memorial and health care
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services, primary health care services in the County.
ViceMayor Plummer: No, no, no, that's not my point. You're missing my
point.
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Mr. Tate: That is in the bill.
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,. Mayor Suarez. All right, that's what it's going to take, so you might take
that back from all of us.
Mr. Tates I understand. Thank you very much, Mr. Mayor.
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Commissioner Dawkins: And J,L. can't help you because all the people he
service in the graveyard. He can't help you.
Vice Mayor Plummer: But I got a lot of votes in my hand.
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Mr. Tate: I've lived in Miami 63 years, so...
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Mayor Suarez: All right, we don't have to get into how old you are...
Mr. Tate: OK, thank you.
Mayor Suarez: ...I wouldn't admit it if I were you anyhow. All right,
Angela. Do you want to follow these sheets that have submitted, if you
haven't submitted one of these, forever hold your peace.
Ms. Angela Vazquez: OK. We are not here to talk about the social services
part, but for the $54,000 that we requested for enlargement of the Badia
Senior Center. We are feeding now 230 elderly daily and we are overcrowded.
We are feeding them in the classrooms. They cannot get all the service and
all the activities that they used to. We have a waiting list of 209 and if we
enlarge with those fifty-four thousand, we enlacge the building, we could be
able to fit more comfortably, more properly, and a little bit extra people
that we have on the waiting list.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Frank, let me ask you a question. Besides this
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Mr.5 Frank Castaneda: Little Havana Activity and Nutrition Center, even
though, 'not in the amounts that it used to because as you....
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Vice Mayor Plummer: At St. Dominic's?
Mr. Castaneda: In St. Dominic's, they have been reduced drastically.
Vice Mayor Plummer: But other than that, for the real Flagami area.
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Mr. Odio: I think this is another one of those items that were taken out
because of the trauma center, so you need to shuffle with that.
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l�r,,;"Ricot,Fertil: Good evening everybody. My name is Ricot Fertil. I'm the
pre&$dpnt.of.tha..Haitian American Civic Club. On behalf of this association,
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d ild .-abuse=.prevention :program in the community. I'mvery -sure that=_M9
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the child abuse prevention program in the Haitian community. Although this
program is new and does not receive any funding whatsoever, we already start
performing positively, Because we like to see improvement in the child abuse
crisis in the Haitian community. We do acknowledge that a shortage of funding
in the City of Miami will prevent you from doing lots of things. loweverj
while you are thinking of your children, think of this program that will save r
the lives of those children who are abused, who are about to be abused by
their parents. When the Citywide advisory board recommend the allocation of E;
$50,000 for this project, I thought everything was confirmed. I moved the
office to a larger one so enough space can be eiailable for a social worker,
child abuse investigator, for meeting, and afte school program. We already
spent over $4,000 to move in. We have applied for funding, but we haven't
received anything from any sources. _ of hope is on you, Mayors
and Commissioners, to decide and vote on thf, $50,000 recommended by the
members of the advisory board.
Mayor Suarez: Thank you, sir. Carmen Maine, I know you were waving as if you
had filled out one of these, but we couldn't find it. So if you want to get
up to the mike, if not, fill out one of these forms, either way. James
McDonald. Where's James?
Mr. James McDonald: He's right here, he's right here. Thank you, Mr. Mayor.
Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen, my name is James McDonald. I'm
president of the Downtown Business Association. We support the final staff
recommendation as to our community grant. We do question, frankly, the
overall wisdom of Dade County HUD coming to this Commission as a source of
funding to take $2,000,000 out of these grant monies to help fund Dade County
projects. I mean, we all understand the fiscal tightness that we all have,
but the County to come to this Commission and sas, give us two million of your
dollars and then you, in turn, take away from .some very worthy projects, we
find that to be rather anomalous. Even though these housing projects are
within the City limits, it's a tight budget year. It's always tight, and why
the County... they come to you this year for icwo million. They'll be here
next year, rest assured if you give it to the:.t, they're going to be here for
four. And it's just... I think it's an inappropriate way as a County taxpayer
for the County to provide for its services, come to this Commission as a
source of funding. So we support the staff recommendation, and I wanted to
make those comments. Thank you.
Mayor Suarez: OK.
Mr. Eddie Dominguez: Good afternoon, ladies and gentle...
Mayor Suarez: Is your name in one of these?
Mr. Dominguez: My name is... yes, it is.
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Mayor Suarez: Eddie, but you're - OK, you're in a group with about .five
people here in this forum. Go ahead. I gather we're just going to go ahead
and take you as you come up.
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Mr. Dominguez: I am a student at Miami -Dade Community College, and I'm the
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editor, of the student newspaper there, the Metropolis. To a journalist,.truth
and justice are priceless. And the truth in thJJs case is that Wolfson offers
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to, its students and the community a wealth of opportunity. People of all
ages, of all races, and of every ethnic group come to Wolfson, but the one
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thing- that we all have in common is that without Miami -Dade, education would
not be in our reach. Our society tries to correct many of the social ills
produced by our system, and sometimes we succeed. Miami -Dade is a. shining
example of that success. Probably one of the :worse social problems that we
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face is that there is not equal opportunity for all. Miami -Dade is a
gargantuan step in the right direction. The doors of opportunity there are
open to everyone, whether the student is black or white, Anglo or Iiiapanic, a
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ee,c+Pnd ciaas school for second class students` We have the beat volleyball
tp*Mu is the "nation, a nationally acclaimed student newspaper, an a:xce+i dent
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school, and I call many of them my friends. My point is that Wolfson is a
hallmark of socioeconomic justice. I don't know anybody who could stand here
today and say that education is not a sound investment in our future, our long
term future. Miami -Dade is suffering, and something has to give. Either the
door of opportunity will close or someone will -ise their might to ensure the E
door is kept open. I beg you, the members of Vie Commission, to do the only
thing that is humanly correct. Please use your strength to help keep the door
of opportunity open. I owe Wolfson plenty, but I am not here today to pay
them back what I owe them. I am here today to do my part to make sure the
students who follow behind me have the same chances that I was given. I
challenge you, the City Commission, to do your part. This community
development grant will mean the difference betwsen opportunity for some and
opportunity for all. Please follow the advice of the advisory board, and
support Miami -Dade. Thank you.
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Mayor Suarez: Please, please, please... Your certainly have the most lively
group with you.
Commissioner Alonso: Loud and clear.
Mayor Suarez: All right, Edward Isles, is he with you? And try not to get
repetitive and the cheering section, please, let us get on with the next item.
We appreciate your enthusiasm and I have a feeling that we feel equally
enthusiastic, but we got to get some other items done. Go ahead, sir.
Mr. Edward Isles: Mr. Mayor, Commissioners, ladies and gentlemen, my name is
Edward Isles. I'm a student at Miami -Dade Community _College. Because of the
education that this institution has offered me, when I arrived here from the
Caribbean, I must stand here and ask you to give the money to the institution.
The money that is so needed to expand. What we see here in Miami iss
immigrants. We see people coming in from the Caribbean, Latin America,
Europe, Asia, and even Australia. And they are settling in the metropolis.
And the first thing they do here is try to get themselves an American
education. An education that is required in order to become part of the
melting pot. But the first condition is education. After education, you have
a society, and a society is the prior conditioi: to any government. Without
giving us the money that is required to expand our institution, you're going
to be robbing the natives of Miami, settlers of Miami, of an education that is
required to rid Miami of the problems that it's been having over the past
years. - What we see is because of that, the diverse ethnicity of Miami, there
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have been problems, differences. Without that education, we cannot come
together. Today I stand here and I ask you, ple:.ae with one million, seventy-
five thousand dollars to Miami -Dade is to the co:ununity, to a better community
and to a better government. Thank you.
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Mayor Suarez: You have Alberto Cardenas, I don't see him around. Osvaldo
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Soto, I.don't see him around. They're also on your same request, and Dorothy
Baker, I thought maybe I did see her. Maybe she's not. OK. Doctor, do you
want to try to go now and, and as long as you've got the cheering section all
activated.
Mr. Eduardo Padron: Thank you, Mr. Mayor, hanorable Commissioners. -I'm
Eduardo Padron, resident and voter in the City of Miami. I'm here today -to
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remind you that a few years back, you called upon the institutions of higher
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the citizensof this community. You asked all. Only one institution
responded. That was Miami -Dade Community College. At great cost and risk we:
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came to downtown Miami, and in doing that, we accepted your challenge. At the
same time we have done what I think is two extraordinary things. The first
one -is.to provide equal access and opportunity to higher education to the
citizens of this City through our open door policy. And you need to recognize
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challenge then and now, atilt. The only one Nd thin the City limits. At the
ma .-t.Jmo, we ' took upon the challenge of being a catalyst' for -,,,the
fed@Y4 flp�18�1t of 'downtown Miami, and in doing so, you know thorn are many
day vho 4 Acknowledge the college as the center -of the cultural renalaeaaaa
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accomplishments. We're also very proud of something more important. We are
the center of opportunity into the professions and technical careers for all
the citizens in the target areas that are represented here today. All these
citizens in one way or the other, benefit from the programs that we offer. —
Bottom line, we're talking about a new development in downtown Miami, a target f
area for community development, which will enhance the opportunity for more
people to take advantage of an education. We're talking about approximately a
$23 million dollar investment in the blocks surrounded by 4th Street and 5th
Street and by Biscayne Boulevard and 2nd Avenac:. We're asking you for less
than 5 percent investment and support for that development. In other words,
we're asking you to be a partner with the state and the college in bringing '
about a significant redevelopment in the area. But most importantly, to
continue to provide opportunities to the same people that you represent in the
City. In doing so, I cannot think of a better way to serve the people that
are sitting here today - the many people that 2 ive within the City limits -
and at the same time, you're going to be doing something even more wonderful,
and that is I assure you with this new development, we will be bridging
Bayside to downtown Miami, which is so absolutely necessary, so the many
thousands of tourists and people who come to Bayside do not become entangled
in Bayside. They will cross the street and reach out into the streets of
downtown Miami so that merchants, the professionals, and the people who do
business in the City will also benefit from the promotional efforts of the
City at Bayside. That is my reason for being hare today, and your patience,
understanding, and support will be extremely appreciated.
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Mayor Suarez: OK, Carmen, and then I want to go to the rest of these cards.
I presume yours is in here somewhere, but I can't find it. Go ahead.
Ms. Carmen Maine: Good afternoon, Mr. Mayor and Commissioners. My name is
Carmen Maine, and I represent the executive director of the Useful Aged,
#. Association, "Los Viejos Utiles." Number one, thank you very much to the
staff for the recommendation at least to keep the same amount that we had for
last year. But I am here to request a littls bit more. We serve 1,500
people, old people. It's not only that we serve them, we go to the hospital
to see them. We deliver 1,500 food packs every 15 days. We have to buy those
t products, because nobody - well at least a few of them - donate something to
US. But the rest I have to buy it. So, as you can see, with $40,000 to keep _
f. an institution like this, that we're working 24 hours a day. And this is
true, because a few of you know my job there. So I please, I'm going to be
very short, that if it is possible, I am requesting
$50,000. So it s not too
much to take into consideration and try to help
us with this difference.
Thank you very much.
Mayor Suarez: OK, Carmen. We have Bonnie Acke,-rian.
Is she here? You're the
grandmother of Sean. He's still awake and he's on
his way to sleep, but he's
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Ms. Bonnie Ackerman: I came to Miami when I was 18.
Mayor Suarez: Give us the name and address, although I already said it into
the record.
Ms. Ackerman: Bonnie Ackerman, 750 N.W. 18th Terrace. And I looked at this
City and ,I thought it was the Land of Oz. It was so beautiful. I now live in
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Commissioner Alonso: CenTrust.
Mayor Suarez: CenTrust Tower.
Ms. - Ackerman; The Omni? Is that the...
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Commissioner Alonso: The CenTrust Building?
M.s:.,A kerm n: The CenTrust? -is that what it is?
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haven't been cleaned in 20 years, And around us, there's a fence and on that
fence we could have some barbed wire so that the crack addicts, they just jump
right over that fence, and they live above the 12th floor. There are 168
units there, and those units we could probably, if we had some kind of
recreation, double up, maybe people would fall in love and get married. And
then we could have more room for more people who needed places to live. And
that building is in the middle of Overtown. I was mugged there, robbed, and f
understand now that there are five crooks wanting to get into my apartment, ;
because I'm a little artistic. And they want all my stuff, which isn't much.
What I'm asking you for is, these people need recreation, like tables in the
yard, to have a barbecue or because we have to close our doors at 6:00 o'clock
for fear of all these murderers that run through. And I was almost killed
twice there. I've had a gun - one of those big ones, what do they call those
big guns? What's the...
Vice Mayor Plummer: Shotgun.
Ms. Ackerman: Huh?
Vice Mayor Plummer: A shotgun.
Ms. Ackerman: No, the other ones.
Vice Mayor Plummer: An Uzi.
Ms. Ackerman: No.
Mayor Suarez: A big one. Don't worry about it - a 357 Magnum. We get the
idea, we get the idea.
Commissioner Alonso: We get the idea.
Ms. Ackerman: OK. What I'm asking for...
Vice Mayor Plummer: A Scud missile.
Commissioner Alonso: Not that bad, but...
Ms. Ackerman: I have hundreds of things here 1 wanted to
tell you, but two
minutes...
Mayor Suarez: OK, just paraphrase, and wrap up. Yes.
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Mayor Suarez: That's a great part of the year to be born
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Ms. Ackerman: Now, if you, in the middle of Overtown,
you clean up that. '
building, and you make it something that's beautiful to look at, because, it's
a beautiful building, what you're doing is spoke*1 will go
out and the property
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Vice Mayor Plummer: What's that? -the Claude Pepper Towers?
Mayor Suarez: Very good.
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Vice Mayor Plummer: is that the Claude Pepper?
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Ms. Ackermant Claude Pepper.
Commissioner Alonso: Claude Pepper,
Mayor Suarez: Claude Pepper two. I have Ruth Wells.
Ms. Ruth Wells: Here I am, here I am.
Mayor Suarez: There you are, please.
Me. Wells: Yes, my name is Ruth Wells and I represent the Douglas Gardens
Senior Adult Day Health Center at Legion Park. And I would like to say thanks
to the Commission for allocating funding to this program for the past 15
years. However, this program is extremely important in the northeast section
because it is the only one in the northeast section for low income frail
elderly. And I would like to ask the Commission, if at all possible, to
increase our funding at least by 5 percent, because we are feeding these
elderly people on a yearly basis. We feed them about 10,000 plus meals, and
to some of these people, this is the only meal they get in 24 hours. So I
would like to say to the Commission and urge you to continue to recognize the
importance of this program in the northeast section for the low income
minority.
Mayor Suarez: What is the staff recommendation, Muth?
Ms. Wells: Sir?
Mayor Suarez: What is the staff recommendation and the CDBG board
recommendation? What are the recommendations a; to your funding?
Mr. Castaneda: To maintain them at the same level as last year.
Mayor Suarez: Which is?
Ms. Ruth Wells: Twenty-eight thousand.
Mayor Suarez: All right, nobody seems to know when you need a nice simple
answer to a nice simple question.
Ma.'Wells: Twenty-eight thousand. About twenty-eight thousand - twenty-nine
thousand? Close to twenty-nine thousand. Twenty-nine thousand.
Mayor Suarez: All right, thank you. That's close enough. All right, Xavier
Cortada. Ma'am, I don't know... what is your narie?
Ms. Sheila Richter: Sheila Richter.
Mayor Suarez: Oh yes, I have you next. I thi:k you are here on HUD, so if
you want to wait and let him go, because.I've got a lot ones right,,.after you..
So, let him got first, and I've got you next.
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Mr. Xavier Cortada: My name is Xavier Cortada, I am with Regis House, 2010 NW
7 Street.
Commissioner Alonso: He sounds healthy.
Mr. Cortada: .., and I suffer from laryngitis. Commissioners, Giibert'.,s;Mom
called me this morning at Regis House, She had heard about us when she _heard
Father Larain and I on the radio doing our Community Outreach in the Hispanic
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:that'<.add ction• ; _ The problem we have COMMITS.: ionera, : is 0a aIthough. fur
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buy a piece of vacant property, and even though last year you gave us an —
initial amount of fifty thousand dollars ($50,000) that we used to put down a
payment on a property, and thereafter, had our trustees use their houses as
collateral to purchase. Although we have a facility that will be fully
functional for an outpatient treatment center to treat the kids of Little
Havana, we do not have a licensed staff psychologist to treat these kids. We
have an effective prevention program. We do no: have an outpatient program.
Frank Castaneda, when he developed his budget., left sixty-eight thousand
dollars ($68,000) for what was called the "rainy day" account. Commissioners,
there is a torrential storm on 20th Avenue and nth Street. The rainy day
isn't tomorrow, the rainy day is here now. We have kids that need, that come
to our offices daily asking for support and assistance. Not the ones we try
to prevent from getting into drugs, but ones like Vivian, who once took a lady in a corner after she cashed here four hundred. dollar ($400) check, mugged
her, and snorted four hundred dollars ($400) worth of cocaine that very same
day. She is sitting in prison right now. People like Eddy, who beat the heck
out of his Dad who is suffering from cardiology problems, just to feed his
addiction. We need to treat these kids today, xnd we are asking you to take
the money from Frank's "rainy day" account, those sixty-eight thousand dollars
($68,000) and put them into the Regis House account, and let us help take care of our kids. And we don't stand alone in doing that. You obviously listened
from me and listened to Father Larain and our volunteers, where we have about
two thousand signatures that I'll submit to the City Clerk, asking for the
same thing. Asking for the Commission to allocate CDBG funding for this
program. Please help us help them.
Mayor Suarez: All right. Thank you for your presentation. There was one
time, Frank, that we agreed by resolution, I don t know if we ever implemented
it, to give them a hand in some way or another. What was that? - could you
remind me?
Commissioner Alonso: We gave them the... last year.
Mr. Castaneda: We gave them fifty thousand dollars ($50,000) to buy the
property.
Mr. Mariano Cruz: Those fifty thousand dollars ($50,000) came last year from
the money that they were taking from the Allapattah Street. And I made sure
since they were in Allapattah at the time, that they get fifty thousand
dollars ($50,000). -
Mayor Suarez: All right. OK, you're always a watchdog over Allapattah and
other parts of the City.
Mr. Cruz: That was true.
Mr. Cortada: Mayor, to answer your question directly, Mayor.
Mayor Suarez: I was answered. It was answered, thank you. Commissioner
Alonso.
�.. Commissioner Alonso: Yes, I have a question. Mr. Manager, and the Law
Department, could this program qualify under the Law Enforcement Trust Fund,
to receive funds?
Mr. Odio: They are dealing with drug addiction.
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Commissioner Alonso: They are, definitely.
Mr. Odio: They should apply for those funds. I don't see why. We have other
problems...
Commissioner Alonso: Well, not that easy. Led, me get an answer - a legal t,
u question. Do they qualify under the guidelines to receive funds? And if the
answer is yes, we should really send from this Commission, a very strong
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suggestion that they be considered to receive the amount from the Law
Enforcement Trust Fund. Can they receive money from that?
Mr. Fernandez; The determination whether
they qualify for that fund or
not,
is solely, initially, in the discretion of
the chief of police. however,
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what I have seen, the course of action in
the past, be on the part of
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is that, this is a type of program
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18, and it seems to me that if 18 qualified, they will certainly quality as
well. And this morning as you recall, we accepted three hundred and seventy -
some dollars more, and we asked how much money.,.
` Vice Mayor Plummer: Seventy thousand.
Commissioner Alonso: How much?
Vice Mayor Plummer: Three hundred and seventy thousand.
Commissioner Alonso: Thousand, exactly. And we asked how much money they
had, and the amount was two million.
Mr. Odio: But only sixty thousand is not allocated.
Commissioner Alonso: What? fine.
Mr. Odio: I think if they qualify, they should apply.
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thousand, may be they can help with this program.
Mr. Odio: I think should apply immediately for that.
Commissioner Alonso: So that's a possibility. I would like that to... they
really need the help desperately, I realize that.
Mr. Cortada: Are those...? So there is sixty thousand available, and
unallocated today? Is that what we are saying?
Mr. Fernandez: No, no. That's not what is bein& saicj.
Mayor Suarez: We are talking about Law Enforcement Trust Fund, which is a
whole different idea...
Mr. Cortada: Yes, I realize that.
Mayor Suarez: ... and a very, very good idea that we strongly recommend, and E
at. the appropriate moment if Commissioner makes that motion, Commissioner' t
Alonso...
Commissioner Alonso: Yes. A,
Mayor Suarez: I'll be very happy to vote trvorably:to. Because it seems A;'
to fit very well within- the criteria there. All right Father. All right,
thank you. Sheila.Richter,,HUD.
Mr. Cortada: Oh, I see, OK. Just one question...
Mayor Suarez; There is the guy right there, Lt.-Longueira. He is... r
Mr. Cortada: Just one question, Mayor, if... what I'd like to avoid.,.
Mayor Suarez: And that way, you keep them off the streets too, -you know.
Mr. Cortada: What I'd like to avoid is that obviously, this decision is1being v
made here, and :today .with CDBG funding, I'don't want to be going out this
door, and not being able to come back in here. And I know there is no w$y to
avert that.
k`k Vice Mayor. Plummer: This is first reading only.
' Commissioner Alonso: This is first reading.
Mayor Suarez; 'You'll certainly be able to,., yes, Yowl! certainly be.
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Mayor Suarezt And of course, the "rainy day" %acount presumably, if it's not
used up, is still there too. Sheila.
Ms. Sheila Rihter: Thank you. My name Sheila Rihter, and I represent Single
Plaza as well as small HUD. I am a member of the Tenant Association, and I am
also member of OTAC (Overall Tenant Advisory Committee). I've stood here and
partially sat here, and I've listened to different people talk, OK? And you
know, I find it ironic, I mean - don't get me wrong, I believe that barbecue
tables are 'important. But somehow I also believe that having a place to live
is a little more important, because somehow, you can't enjoy a barbecue if you
don't have a place to live. And you know, I have heard people talk from the
community, from the Better Business Bureau - I hope that that gentleman is
still here, because I'd like a rebuttal on him. You know, it's really easy to
sit back in nice homes, OK? - and you know, to think about the people in HUD
as lazy, uneducated, unmotivated, crack addicts, criminals, either in the
present, or ones that are considering becoming criminals. I resent that,
because I am a college educated woman. I had my own business, I had my own
home. Due to circumstances out of my control, my mother getting sick, and my
coming from a culture where we don't throw our elderly into homes and just
forget about them, I lost everything I had, -arid I am in HUD now. And you
know, I am glad that I am in HUD, and really, I pity all of you who will never
have the opportunity to live in HUD, because it does something for your
character, it adds something to you, OK? _
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Ms. Richter: Some years ago, you know, I used to hear things about HUD, and
the directors of HUD, and the different people that were staff of HUD. Since
I have been there, you know, I have observed different changes. We have a
deputy director named Mr. Earl Phillips, and I am here as a resident to tell
you that, we back him one hundred percent.
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Ms. Richter: We appreciate the fact that somehow, somewhere along the line,
people got intelligent and gave us one of our own to be over us, someone who
understands our needs. OK? As residents of Dade County, I am surethatall
of you have travelled through the County, and you know, transport, from one
destination to another. I am sure that if ony at a red light, you have had
the opportunity to look either to your left or right, and seen some- HUD
dwellings that are all boarded up. OK? Once the light changes now, and, you
are at once again in transport, you probably come close to running over some,
of the area residents who are known as the homeless or otherwise, street
people. I find this ironic, and I resent this due to the fact that HUD has.a
E three to five year waiting list. I waited for three years. My mother waited
for five years. Two months after she was finally able to move in, she died.
OK? To think...
Mayor Suarez: You are overstating your case a little bit, and you are also
using up more than your time share. And I've got precisely, Mr. Phillips next
` to you, so, I mean, following you, so why don't you wrap it up.
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concerns. We have concerns of leaky roofs, we have concerns over mice, rats,
and faulty wirings. We have concerns over the fact that our children cannot j
play in the lobby, because we are victims of the wild, wild, west syndrome in
a lot of our facilities, because not all o" us are criminals. > We have
different problems, and we are here to ask you... the man said next year,, you
know, we will be back asking for four million. I think that that's a negative
way of looking at it. Maybe, next year we won't need four million, because
there will be no need for public housing. Because there will be jobs, and
there will be other ways for us to live and to raise our children. Nobody
�t wants to raise their children in a ghetto. I love my children.as much as y*u
love yours, And I really wish that I didn't hive to raise them in HUD, but
while we are there, I am bound and determine to make HUD a place that my _
Mayor Suarez: All right. I'll take that L7 be an introduction
Phillips, please, so that we can •- very good.
Mr. Part Phillips: Thank you Commissioners, and good afternoon.
Mayor Suarez- And then Varl, I have Juanita Horton, Helen Whack, and Annie
Love. I don't know if you want to state at some point, what their testimony
will be, or have them each identify themselves, and briefly add to what you
are stating. But we don't need to overdo it. I think we have had this
discussion quite a few times up here.
Mr. Phillips: Right. I'll try not to say the game thing that I am going to
assume that those three ladies will be speaking on. And I appreciate the
opportunity. I just want to just mention a couple of things...
Mayor Suarez: I was suggesting that you do a little more than that since we
are going to listen to you a little bit more atlength, that you would tell
them that basically, you will incorporate their testimony, and let them get up
and identify themselves. That way, you can take up more time. Otherwise, in
fairness to everybody else, I'll have to hold you to a time limit. But I'd
rather not do that, I'd rather you use up their time too.
Mr. Phillips: All right. If I can just ask them to come up then.
Mayor Suarez: Please.
Mr. Phillips: Would it be in order, Mr. Mayor, if I asked them to speak
first?
Mayor Suarez: Yes, that will be just fine.
Mr. Phillips: Then I can just sum up what they... yes.
Mayor Suarez: Just quickly, because we will like to give Mr. Phillips a
little longer time to give us the presentation, and frankly, we have heard
this and we have met with you, and we know the situation pretty well. Helen.
Ms. Helen Whack: Good afternoon, Mr. Mayor and Commissioner. My name is
Helen Whack, I am president of the Overall Tenant Advisory Council. I also
live in Rainbow Village. I have resided there rEor over eighteen years. Our
concern as residents of Overtown - we are in the need of security, paint would
be maybe last on the list, but we need you to please consider the request that
Mr. Phillips is asking. Our director is asking to remodernize or whatever he
need for our concerns as residents in the Overtown area. We are asking you to
please consider because we know that, we are part of the City of Miami, the
money that come in from the City of Miami. We also 'understand that we know
that you get your money from the number of us residents that live within that
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City. Thank you very much.
Mayor Suarez: Very good. Thank you. Thank you for the efforts you have made
in Rainbow Village already.
Ms. Juanita Horton: My name is Juanita Horton, I am vice chair person of
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funds to help in low income housing, because they do live in, low income
housing.' And you know when you ask for that number, that that's 'where they
reside. And so, we are just asking for what we are entitled to. Thank you.
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Agnes, Rainbow Village are here, as I see ` it, for two different, a�llocationa,"
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Mr, Castaneda: This is a new program. It is to rehab a community center, add
public housing in Overtown, and twenty-five thousand dollars ($25,000) to
start up a day care in that public housing building. One of the things that
the Commission has said, it was that the Overtovn area should be a prioirity,
the treatment of community development. So we-. felt that that was a very
important project in that area.
Vice Mayor Plummer: But you are recommending a hundred thousand for rehab...?
Mr. Castaneda: That is correct.
Vice Mayor Plummer: ... and twenty-five for social service?
Mr. Castaneda: That is correct.
Vice Mayor Plummer: So I... maybe I misunderstood.
were complaining they were getting nothing.
Mr. Castaneda: Oh no, but they are.
Vice Mayor Plummer: OK. All right.
Mayor Suarez: OK.
I thought these ladies
Ms. Noemi Ezpeleta: Dear Commissioners, and Mayor, I am here because I am
going to represent all the residents in the central region of Miami. My name
is Noemi Ezpeleta, and I am living in HUD properties for more than twelve
years. And I am here today because I think it's right to come in a place like
this one, and explain to all of you, after some many years living in terrible
conditions, living in the dark, neglected, and until few months ago, we never
saw changes in housing projects. Now, we are supporting the petition today,
because we think it's necessary to improve our living conditions, and
everybody knows me very well around this community. I don't go places, I
don't go to the radio, I don't go to the new,%papers, but when I think it's
necessary to be present, I'll be there. And I want to say that we have a lot
of things in projects for the future of our houses. One of them, is to see my
place painted in a color pink, because I always like to be living in a pink
house.
Commissioner Alonso: That's nice.
Ms. Ezpeleta: And we are getting old, and when you are getting old, you want
to have all the things you never had when you were young, because you know the
time is running very quickly. And I am calling your attention, and I am
appealing to your feelings because one day, all of you are going to be in our
own situation. Not living in a HUD property, but I mean, being all elderly,.
having family, and supporting people who need to be living in low income
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houses. I love my house, it's cute, I am not living in a building, I take
care of my gardens, and I try to have a clean horse.
Mayor Suarez: We got the general description cf the house. It sounds very
nice, but would you please wrap up?
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Ms. Ezpeleta; And OK, and Mr. Mayor, please take in consideration, my
petition, and I'm waiting to listen, a very, very, big, yes.
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Ms, Annie Love: Good after, Honorable Mayor and Commissioners. My name'ia
Annie L. Love, and I live at 2206 NW 72 Street. I am aresident of Dade`
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our chairman Ms. Helen Whack has said. I don't want to take up too much of
your time, because time seem to be the same here, but I want to say, I am
standing to this mike asking for basic needs. Ida are not here asking,,, and
lid like to an opportunity to ask all the members that is here with us, would you all please stand up? proudly. Stand up, please?- Thank you. Let me say _
again to you all, what we're here asking for, we are not asking for a luxury.
Mayor Suarez: I see you brought your own translator back there.
Commissioner Alonso: Yes.
Ms. Love: we are not asking for base: needs. You are the Citl
Commissioners. It's a shame that we had to come here and ask you for this.
But we are not ashamed to be here asking you for it. All we are respectfulll
requesting that, you give the director what he is asking for, the executive
board, and the OTAC board which I sit on too, we will be monitoring, helpinE
how these funds are being spent. And if we are unhappy with what is going on;
you will know, we will be there to monitor these funds. But first of all, yo:
( ought to have the pleasure of giving us basic needs. And you know, ii
4 wouldn't hurt you all to just come out there. If you think we don't need it
( why don't you come out there and try living with us just one hour. W1
wouldn't have to stand before you, OK? And I heard someone worrying about
j; what the County give. The County has been giving it until they have bled ti
death. You all have not done your fair share in over the years. So we are
respectfully requesting that you do so. Thank you.
Mayor Suarez: Thank you, Annie OK, Mr, Phillips. The paper or somewhere, I
read something to the effect that there were twenty thousand residents of
public housing in the City, and elderly housing. I guess that was not
correct. You've told us, twelve thousand, right?
Mr. Phillips: That's... there are twelve thousand units, but we are talking
roughly twenty thousand individual residents that live in...
Mayor Suarez: In the County?
Commissioner Alonso: Seven thousand in the City, right?
Mr. Phillips: No, no, they live in the City of Miami.
Mayor Suarez: Twenty thousand individuals?
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Commissioner Alonso: Individuals, yes.
Mayor Suarez: OK. Thank you. And seven thousard units?
Mr Phillips: Yes, seven thousand units.
Commissioner Alonso: Units, yes, approximately,. In the City of Miami, about
='seven thousand units.
Mr. Phillips: I just wanted to clarify one thing... excuse me? I wanted..to i
clarify one thing in terms of the question that Commissioner Plummer had
raised about Rainbow Village. The items that were in the budget request. for
Dade Count HOD dealt with items like
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those type of things. Fencing, security lighting. So the daycare, that's a
separate line that St. Agnes line... it's a separate line and that'$ providing
other kinds of services. The point that I am making here is that, St. Agnes
Church has graciously adopted Rainbow Village in conjunction with the City of `{
Miami. The City of Miami has played a major role in that kind of cooperative L°
-relationship. And so, you have of a cooperation
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the development, and the City, from a tripod standpoint. And it's. been
working,and it's very effective. I just wanted .ro clarify that. You alreasiy '
have, and I don't want to take up a lot of uns.ecessary time, because I did
come`and you graciously allowed me to speak befo-*e you recently, a.week or twa
Ago, and you did ask... request information, which I did forward to
'spelling out a breakout of those items and tha different developent,s. t4at
would' total to the amount of some ten percen, of the CDBG funding that the
City is receiving. i do want to make,.. one thing, I went to rei.terete
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services? - why can't Dade County put monies in? and I certainly don't want
to go back over that. We've done that and you understand very clearly that a
large amount of money has been in fact spent in the last year and -a -half from
Dade County into inter City developments. The other thing I just want to
reiterate, if I may, when we talk about responsibility, we talk about
landlords, you are the largest landlord... we are the largest landlord in a
partnership in the City of Miami. And I do work for you as the largest
landlord in the City taking that responsibility very, very serious. The one
thing I do... and something else that I do want to mention to you, because
there seems to be a number of people talking abc,ut Dade County HUD taking away
from other programs. And I want to make very clear to you that we certainly
are not coming before you in an anticipated mnnner, assuming that you are
going to take away from programs that are deserving and needing and provide
those dollars to Dade County HUD, because we are coming in, and we may have
the loudest voice in this matter. And I am sure that you recognize that that
is not what we are anticipating. And I think things got out askew, when the
Commissioners requested that staff take the responsibility to look at a ten
percent cutting back on programs that they were recommending for your perusal.
That then seemed to have meant that people assumed that ten percent of their
program was going to be taken by Dade County HUI), and somehow, that word then
got out into the community that Dade County HUD was taking away from folks and
then suggesting to these folks, that they needed to come to this meeting to
fight for their dollars, because Dade County HUD was trying to take their
money from them. I think that's what you had taking place here this
afternoon. And I just want to clarify that. Because if I can just suggest to
the Commissioners, and looking at the items that have been recommended to you
from a programmatic standpoint, I would certainly suggest that you look, as
Commissioner Plummer has raised a concern about ::he percentage of dollars that
are going into administration, I would ask that you look at that very
carefully. I would also ask that you look at the dollars that are being
allocated to the item that is entitled, Department of Development and Housing,
which is the four million dollar figure, I would certainly suggest very
strongly that you look at the item that is marked Miami Capital Development
Loan Fund Project and look at those items and see if in fact, if you are going
to be generous enough to provide those dollars for us that we've asked for to
see if there are dollars in those category areas that you might be able to
look at, rather than look into community development corporation, or a
hospital, or some other small programs that are in need of as many dollars as
they possibly can. I certainly do not want to give that impression. We have
needs, those needs are real, those needs are legitimate, I think everyone in
this room knows that those needs are there, and what we are asking, is for the
City to take its responsibility, its share of the responsibility to help us to
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correct those needs.
Mayor Suarez: Thank you.
Mr. Phillips: The last thing that I do want to say to you, is that I have
talked with Commissioner Hawkins, who is the chair of the Health and Human
Services for the County. Commissioner Hawkins, on Tuesday, is
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maintain the current level of Community Development Block Grant funding for
little HUD in addition to any new monies that are being received, if received,
from the City of Miami. So therefore, it will not be, you providing us
dollars, the County then taking dollars away. We are talking about providing
more dollars for more services to :orrect the situations that should have been
corrected over the years, but that have gone neglectful. Regardless of who is
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people need those services right now. And I thank you for your attention.
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Mayor Suarez: Thank you. We kind of... the word kind of passed you by there
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Counselor, but if you want to make a quick titatement, I- presume it'a in
support of Miami Dade Community College, very qui.ckly.
Mr. Alberto.Cardenas: Yes. Thank you, Mayor, c.nd excuse me, members of the
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Commiesion. I, as you may know, am an alumni Of the Community College. Thsy
gave -me the only. opportunity I had to pursue a higher education, and now I am
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under -so much other needs ,available, and that weighed heavily on my'MJOd
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before I came to speak with you., But I must tell you Mr. Mayor, that this has"
been:: he"most difficult year I presume for you, but oyerwhdlming y sGi
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For I am not here to tell you that we want to continue our own programs, we've
already given up on that. We had the heartbreaking situation this year where
we have had to tell over fifty or a hundred students on athletic scholarships,
that they could no longer have them. We've impacted the lives of those
youngster forever, and our hearts are saddened by that. For this year, for
the very first time in the close to the thirty year history of the community
college, we will probably have to turn down three thousand eager youngsters,
mostly minority members of our community, who ve, for the very first time in
the history of that institution, will have to tell them I'm sorry, but we
can't give you an education. The number of programs we have had to close down
is alarming. Things that you know in the future, like the bookfair, Paella
3; and other programs, you will no longer know them as you have known them in the
past. The things that are going on in our college at this point in time, are
tragic. The Jackson Memorial Hospital announced that they had to hire over
two thousand Filipino nurses, and nurses from the Orient. Why? Because we
didn't have the facilities to educate Dade Caunty people who needed the
education and needed a job. Those were twenty-five hundred people who would
have come from the Black and Hispanic and other- communities that could have
had a career and a job, and we couldn't give it to them because we didn't have
room. We brought twenty-five hundred people from out of the country to
provide a need that we could have easily been providing. We need the million
dollars we are asking you for a very simple ret.son. The downtown campus of
Miami Dade Community College, and may I add, this is the only community, major
community in America where there is not major higher education presence in its
urban core area. Miami Dade Community College is the only thing that comes
close to it. We are bursting at the seems dowr.cown, if we don't expand now, I
will tell you and this is not a blind statement,, this is a promise, I will
tell you that we will have to turn away far greater number of students to
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service those facilities than you could ever think. The money is needed now,
because it is going to take three or four years to make that available, that
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expansion. We are bursting at the seams. The Inter -American Study Center on
27th Avenue as you know, boom! We can't have one more student there. There
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are hundred and thousands of students literally out of an opportunity. We
need your support and we need it now. Thank you.
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Mayor Suarez: Very good. Part of that is related to operations, not just
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capital expansions. Mariano, we have heard from you. Nilsa we have heard
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opportunity...
Mr. Cruz: No.
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Ms. <Velazquez: I need to...
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Mr. Cruz: He spoke more than two and -a -half minutes.
Mayor Suarez: ... wait, wait, wait. Befzaida Ferrer, is she here?
Ms. Befzaida Ferrer: Good after Commissioners.
Mayor Suarez:, That's it, yes. Move it closer tc you.
Ms. Ferrer: OK. I am small, and I represent a small community in Wynwood. I
also represent the Puerto Rican presence in Miami. For many months, I went to
the AdvisoryCommittee meetings, and.I heard that: the reason that, the Wynwood
area did not receive funds..,
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Mayor Suarez: Befzaida, what is your address, or your organization's address.
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M$.:<Ferrer:, Thirty fifty Biscayne Boulevard. I am right near tho,City, OK?
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aomimunity did not .receiva funds, was because we nevor submitted., proposa Is.
Honorable Mayor, i approached you in 198g.and 1989, and i expressed any coAcern
about the problem of " little educational. oppoxta�ni�ty, a employment
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argue that we have not done anything for Wynwaod, when
you referred to a meeting between us in 1988/10800 I think
it time I became aware of your organization even existing.
we have been here for fifteen years, giving service, and
lived a cent from the City.
ill, maybe never coming to the City, or you know, never having
intil that time. So, perhaps the best way to approach it, is
ou are worthy of support, and not criticize the other things
But you decide whatever approach you want to take.
ry well. Thank you. And the reason I start with that
,ause I want it on the record, that yes, the Puerto Rican
e, and yes, we are protesting that we have not been given
.hat in mind, I want to state...
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"ayvr Quarez: zou•ve just...
Ms. Ferrer: I am talking about what the Advisory Committee members said, that
the Wynwood Community did not get money.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Yes, but you are making a statement that this Commission
has never done anything for the Puerto Rican Wynwood Community.
Ms. Ferrer: No, I did not say that. I am sorry, that is a misrepresentation.
What I have said is that, the Puerto Rican Community has not come before the
Commission with proposals, requesting funds for education and employment
opportunities.
Vice.Mayor Plummer: Oh, for education?
Ms. Ferrer: Yes.
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Vice Mayor Plummer: OK.
Ms. ,Ferrer: Our center and the reason I come to you is, because...
Mayor Suarez:, Well one of the reason people don't come to us... let me
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interrupt you again,. for education, we are not a school board we are not an
educational institution. We don't have any funds whatsoever, for education.
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as Vice Mayor Plummer stated it before, with social service monies of
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Community .Development Block Grants, we try to fec.d and take care of the health`'
of ;.people. Those are the basic... I mean, you see Miami Dade Community
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College here, they are couching their request in terms of economic
development.- So anyhow, you characterize it an wa P , Y , Y y y you want. Nowwe have
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Ma. .Ferrer: Thank:you. .;The reason I come before you is because in Wynwood,
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I have all the computerized records for the last fifteen years to prove`
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Unlees.wa:help the people Who .live in this community, who do not even have an"
_t-,grad', reading level, there can .be no alleviation in terns of the
Oroblema,Qf: the people you will have to food and house within the next fifty
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vocational component, because I have a track tycord that can prove that with
every dollar you send us, we can produce more benefits in the long run than
any other agency in this community. And this is quoted as the following,
"with a budget of three hundred and six thousand, we service five hundred
clients. We placed two hundred and thirty-five clients in unsubsidize
employment, and we accrued a hundred and thirty-seven grade level gains within
one year. I don't think any other program can beat that track record.
Therefore, I come before you because we were rot recommending for funding.
And I want to thank Commissioner Miriam Alonso who visited our program, and
saw what we were doing, how taking these women from welfare and turning them
a around into people who are motivated and want to work, and are willing to take
entry level jobs. So I hope that the Commission will consider us for partial
y: or total funding. Thank you.
Mayor Suarez: Very good. I have an Anatolia Patino, and Josefina Carbonell,
and Octavio Blanco, all on the same topic.
Commissioner Alonsot They were here.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Yes, they were definitely here.
Mayor Suarez: OR. One of you, please tell us what the... I see Josefina
already up there, on the go. -
Ms. Josefina Carbonell: Well, this morning I... My name is Josefina
Carbonell, 700 SW 8 Street, representing Lttle Havana Activities and
Nutrition Centers. And I am here to thank the Ccmmission for its past support
of the nutrition programs at Little Havana, which is in Peters Plaza, St.
Dominic's, and the Blind Program, where we have been receiving the same amount
of dollars for the last three years. As a matter of fact, four and five years
ago; we used to have more money, and unfortunately, we have had to cut down.
We have implemented some changes in those three sites. One of the poorest
sites is Peters Plaza which happens to be a housing project also. They are in
need... this population has aged, and that facility is more frailer. It is in
need of more support services that our agency has given to this project
without., asking the City for more money. So we ask you to reconsider your
position. If there is extra money available, there is more than two hundred
people on waiting list. We are currently serving six hundred and eighty-seven
unduplicated clients in those three sites. We also have the problem with s_
St.Dominic's, that due to the church's position of not letting us serve
nonresidents of the facility, we are having to transport those non St.Dominic
residents into the Smathers Center for meals. Those meals have not been
�{ reduced, the people continue to be served, but we are taxed because we have to j
transport them to this other facility to feed them. So I urge you to support
us... to continue to support us, and to consider an increase in the meals';
being served at those centers.
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Vice Mayor Plummer: Question. How much did you get last year?
Ms. Carbonell: Two hundred and fifty-one thousand, three hundred and fifty-Y
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Vice Mayor Plummer: And that's what you are recommended for, this year?
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Ms. Carbonellt And that is correct that is a cut.
Vice Mayor Plummert Excuse me?
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bid, and the meals have gone up, and that cut has been absorbed by this
a` organization- and there is no fat to cut. We are talking about meals, },Fa
t-ranspoetation, there is very little"staff.
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Carbonell; Approximately, we requested a two hundred and eighty-oAe
t 'ssus id `raquost= �wh oh. veuld bring us= to whit we were thr o years,, 'a +a, ' `To • '`
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Me. Carbonell: Right,
Vida Mayor Plummer: OK, Are you finished?
Ms. Carbonell: That's it.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Frank, may l ask a question please? Of the programs that
you have final staff recommendation, how many of these are new programs?
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Under final staff recommendations, there are only two new
Vice Mayor Plummer:
Mr. Castaneda: One
coordinating program
homeless.
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in downtown which the Comiission requested to create a
to feed the homeless, Miami Coalition, for care to the
All right.
Mr. Castaneda: Twenty-five thousand dollars ($25,000).
Vice Mayor Plummer: And the other one?
Mr. Castaneda: The other program is twenty-five thousand dollars for St.
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Agnes Rainbow Village Development Corporation. And that's the program
concerning the public housing site over there. And that is all.
Vice Mayor Plummer: But that's for serving the tood?
Mr. Castaneda: No, that's for a daycare. That's to get the daycare started
over there.
Vice Mayor Plummer: OK. Now, I want to ask o::e other question, because as I
see'here,-under social service programs...
Mr. Castaneda: Yes.
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Vice Mayor Plummer: The City of Miami, on its: own daycare programs; :does in
' fact take from another segment, of the community development monies, is, that
correct?
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Mr: Castaneda: No, it doesn't.
Vice Mayor Plummer: It doesn't come out of this?
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Vice Mayor Plummer: Where does it come from?
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' Mr. Odio: The°general fund and fees, and some rents that we have received.
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4a me speaking -now, I don't,; Ponsider, daycare, 'as . important 'as it is, a social
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voxy `Lnportant,,°• but isthere another category I guess, is what, I :.am aayimp "in
hic ' the :monisa couU'Zome .for d+aycare,� other t!`,an from sociaj► sere
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Is there another category which daycare can come
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Mr. Castaneda: No.
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Mr. Octavio Blanco: Mr. Mayor, members of the Commission, my name is Octavio
Blanco, 970 SW 1st Street. I am the assistant director, Action Community
Center. As you all know me real well, I have been with this program for
fourteen years, and in the last five years, Action Community Center has been
losing money from the City and from the State. Five years ago, you know, that
the gasoline was only eighty cents a gallon. The tires, the insurance,
everything, and every time there is some moni•ss available, and you people k
decided to give it for example, to a hot meal program, you put it on rice and f
beans. You forget the gas and tires to take those people down there.
Normally... I am disappointed, and I'm going to say right here, from the
people who are running those programs, they never come down here and say,
"Hey,, if Action don't get no money, I can't get no more people here."
Everybody is asking for more money for some more food, but nobody knows.how
the people are going to get there. And I have been getting a lot of pressure
from..the Commission office, from people who are complaining that we are not
giving good. service. We have to be reducing the service lately, in the, last
two.. years. And every time we get a complaint... one person, to you. people,
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then we get pressured by your office. Please, do me a favor, take this
persona We would like a We take one person to some place,
some other one will have to step down.. The only thing that I do please,, is
,? ask every time you: get some money .for hot meal program, remember the Action r
Community Center is part of the hot meal program, taking care of the elderly,`
to take them to the doctors, or everything like that. Gasoline and tires are
part of the hot meal program. -Thank you very much. ?<`,
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Mayor Suarez: Rafael Kapustin, and Annette Eisenberg, are; they two here? K°
Here they are. If this is a joint application by any chance and. you-
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the better of the two, that is to say, Annette to make the presentation,=_ so
? much .the better. Go ahead.
Ms. Annette Eisenberg: Thank you, very much. I am ,here on behalf of the!;DAA
(Downtown; Development Authority) and the citizens of;, the City ,of Miami. For
those of , you who were lucky enough to be at the opening of the property the r•'.
bther.day, the excitement was _great, and the excitement still is great... I did
r'~ not see it, I am going to ses.it tonight. I understand that the,.young people r ;'
} are In that park.until closing, which is now seven o'clock. And we:are" here
today to ask you, to join the other people who have been ._supporting- the `
facility. As you know, the property belongs. to the County, Reebok has mad
contribution, so we are leveraging
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of course the fact, that an organization, is opening and closing, it, ;and
kz cleaning. So we are not, asking City for. any of the City .services, because we,
have -.been able,to secure that. Put we are asking for funding which wQUld
embellish, -=give us lighting, give us some of :he :other faci.li.ties, "s►p the
L4, young peopla' in the Overtown area can .get to that park, as wei l ae the people
who come downtown. Many people come downtown with their children, aad "havo..A*
place to put them. They don't want to go shopping, and we want to f,lnd.,away
r for. people to :come downtQWA,,,And Stay dOWAtcwn, if we can; fnily manago.. tU4 r
facility►, it moans that the pecpl4 will come dcwntown dp..thir;ohoAin$�": ah
t here . $sane Taco " for the children to be; I " c'1 so means ta,et the"., ppopls wbp'
a zV14it hero " otayiag °in . the hotols, will :: h�vp rho .iec ll ty .o .too yc $ s i?a 1 io ' '
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participate, and there is going to be midnight basketball. Isn't that —
wonderful Mayor? - you don't have to go out in the sun anymore. We are asking
for City cooperation, City assistance. We will -go out and find other
corporate sponsors, but we do need your help at this time. Like all the other
parks, this is an important one. And we are asking for a maximum of two
hundred thousand dollars after it is completed, cr we will secure a portion of
it. We'd like to get on with phase one now, because the facility is there.
We don't have to build, we don't have to wait. Tomorrow, when you give us tha
dollars, we can start contracting for the lighting. Thank you.
Mayor Suarez: Thank you. Ditto for you?
Rafael Kapustin: I'll be short.
Mayor Suarez: Half a minute? You are both on the same sheet. I seem Nilsa
already complaining. You got your two minutes, they haven't had their
minutes. Go ahead, finish, Rafael.
Mr. Kapustin: My name is Rafael Kapustin, 25 SE 2nd Avenue. I appreciate the
half a minute. I think you are all familiar with the project. I think that
those of you that authorized us to proceed last reek, and some of you who were
there present and saw it. Perhaps the only thing I'd like to say is you know,
as I stand here and listen to all the request, I mean, there is a tough
assignment you all have to decide where the monies are going to go, and we of
course, have an ideal request, and we will be vary happy to take... break it
down in phases and take a portion of that money. What I do want to say, is
that I've never seen a project where with so little money, and remember that
you have put up no money to this point, so much has happened. While I was
here, I got a telephone call from a reporter from the Miami Herald, Susana
Varciela, who came over and wanted to ask me. She said, she left the Miami
Herald and went to the corner of NE 2nd Avenue and 2nd Street, because she was
told that there were a whole bunch of kids playing basketball, and she would
not believe that kids would play basketball in downtown Miami. She went over
to the corner, and when she got there, she went over to the kids, and where
are you guys from? I mean, all kinds of kids, you know, white, black,
Hispanic, and most of the kids were from the City of Miami, but would you
believe, one of them came from Kendall? We've done a lot with our money.
Give us some seed money, and we are going to do a hell of a lot more. Thank
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Mr. Bill Rios: Commissioners... hi. My name is Bill Rios, I am with: the
Wynwood Community Economic Development Corporation, and I would like to cover
three real quick topics. And I am going to speak to the economic development
side of your CDBG block grant funds. First o: all,_I want to thank you for
supporting us for so many years. But I do want to bring home some very
difficult points that you're going to have to deal with, or that I would like
you to.deal with, and the first one, I would like to address specifically to
Commissioner Alonso. You are a business person, Commissioner Alonso, and
probably the single largest reason in the United States for business failure,`
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Community Development Corporations are businesses, and when they are
undercapitalized, you basically condemn them to .allure. And over the years,
the increase in salaries, expenses, continue to rise, and we still stay at the
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look for additional fundings. When the Mayor and the Commissioners wanted to
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was, because when you came in office, what you actually started to do, was
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campaign. The day that you hit the floor, you. wanted to campaign for your
next term, so you really didn't dedicate yourself the kind of time you needed
to be a full-time Commissioner, or a full-time Mayor. Basically, that happens
to CBCs. When we are underfunded, when we are undercapitalized, what we end
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funding. And that reallystraps us with regard to the kinds of things that
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that you get, or whatever funding you get, you're going to have to commit to a
certain group of people. Because you are nct going to be important to
everyone, you've got to be important only to a select few. Those are the
people that are going to do right for you. Otherwise, you are condemning
everyone to a little bit of money, and they art going to end up failing for
you. Concentrate your funds on a number of select organizations that could
really bring home the results that you are looking for. And lastly, I think
you need to have a business sense to what we are trying to do. And I know
that Frank and his department you know, came up here once before and they
mentioned to you that they keep us hungry. Well, I mean, one thing is hungry
and another thing is starved, and I think at this point, you know, we are
really being kept starved, and those are the points I'd like to bring home at
this time. Thank you.
Mayor Suarez: OK. Would you make sure that you've discussed with Ms.
Befzaida Ferrer back there, about the efforts to do things, including job
creation on so on in Wynwood, so that she will be a little bit more familiar
with them, if she isn't already - maybe she is. I've got Florida Housing
Corporative.
Ms. Nilsa Velazquez: Elderly, please.
Mayor Suarez: All right, Nilsa, we heard from you once on a different matter,
we are going to hear it from you once on anott-,,er matter. Very quickly, and
then...
Ms. Velazquez: Remember that I have two hats.
Mayor Suarez: You have two hats.
Ms. Velazquez: The children, and the elderly.
Mayor Suarez: Both of them in Wynwood, no?
Ms. Velazquez: Yes.
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Ms. Velazquez: My name is Nilsa Velazquez, acid I_representing the Hostos
Senior Center now. And I have a few elderly that have come to support this
project.- I remembered a few years ago, and I am here cutting out on my,
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vacation, because this is important to let you know the needs of the
community. And for Wynwood ,for example, there is a big need. The program
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On a dailybasis -we serve a hundred and twent f ive meals. . Now there 'is a
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Earl Phillips, they are willing to provide the Mendez site for free, . with a
minimal cost, and we need the operating cost. We have some elderly ;here;
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dollars for those operating cost. And I want to add please, that now this
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staff in the Eugenio Maria de Hostos Center, so the commodities were taken out
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getting all that food to be distributed, so we are putting added load to the
and we really need that help from you.
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Vice Mayor Plummer: Your program that you are asking money for is a great
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Ms. Velazquez: Yes.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Now, you tell me, the one that has got to vote, which
program is not good that I should take the money from? - because I've only got
'x' number of dollars. Now, you tell me which piagram I should take it from?
Ms. Velazquez: No, but it's hard to tell.
Vice Mayor Plummer: No, no, no. I've only got 'x' number of dollars. If I
grant your request, I want you to tell me whici: program is not providing that
I should take the money from.
Ms. Velazquez: Well, you can take it from other funds that you are cutting
from other programs, or you can do you know, you can analyze... you good
enough with numbers.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Excuse me. Just so you knew, and the rest of the people
here know. Every one of the dollars in these sheets are all of the dollars we
have.. That's it. No more, no less. Now, what program should I take it from
to give it to you? It's an impossible answer. It's impossible.
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Ms. Velazquez: But remember that the first priority, or one of the first
priorities is to provide meals for the elderly.
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Mr. Tom Borell: Good afternoon Mr. Mayor, and members of the Commission, I am
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that they have been recommended for what they asked for, so on behalf of
Florida Housing, we would like to thank`
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Reverend Gilbert? Mariano could you... I know „u es could
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Vice Mayor Plummer, does not mean that he is threatening him, nor that he is
going.-to_vote,for:him in the upcoming election. All right, Reverend.
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Mayor Suarez: Lynne Latham, End World Hunger, Latham. End World Hunger,
Lynne Latham or Latham. Are they here? This completes the notices that I
have got. Mariano, you want to make a final statement?
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Mr. Cruz: Yes. Right.
Mayor Suarez: I can't imagine anything you can possible add to these
proceedings that hasn't already been said by you, or someone else.
Mr. Cruz: I just got to say something on reb::.ttal to the HUD figures, when
they were talking about, they say about, everyday... I went through some of
the figures, the ones I know. My expertise is on the pest control because I
have a degree here.
Mayor Suarez: Pest Control.
Mr. Cruz: Pest Control, right. I am a certified pest control...
Commissioner Alonso: That, I didn't know.
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but I couldn't imagine it being this irrelevant.
Mr. Cruz: No. They mentioned four hundred dollars ($400) per unit for
termite fumigation, per unit, and they're puttinE;;:every...
Mayor Suarez: You are not referring in any way to any member of this
Commission, when you talk about pest control, right?
5 Mr. Cruz: Right. No, but you see what happened? They put in four hundred ,
` dollars ($400) per unit, and they don't... instead of fumigating, charging for.
the whole building, and the amount of cubit feet - you know that - they are
.; charging per unit so you et eight units. They're multiplyingfour hundred
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Vice Mayor Plummer: Who is doing that?
Mayor Suarez:; Sir, did he want to...;
Mr: Cruz: :That's the figures they've got.:in the different townhouses and
K,. apartment buildings. Instead of charging,.. Futting a price of the whole
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4 dollars, instead of putting eighty thousand cubic feet. So much, you know,
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list and everything, but it didn't show up, whatever, This group 'hindMA
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letter that was written to the Commission.
Mayor Suarez: We have never funded it before, r!ght?
Vice Mayor Plummer: Yes, we did. Once, the first year.
Commissioner Alonso: We did?
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Mr. Borell: Was it for five thousand dollars (�,5,000)? - forty-five hundred
dollars ($4,500), yes.
Mayor Suarers To sort of see if they could get themselves going?
Mr. Borell: Yes.
Commissioner Alonso: How much we gave them?
Vice Mayor Plummer: Forty-five hundred.
Mr. Borell: Forty-five hundred.
Commissioner Alonso: Forty-five thousand?
Mayor Suarez: Forty-five hundred. That was jus'. minimal money to see if they
can...
Mr. Borell: And this past year, the State of Florida had approved, an amount
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things were vetoed due to all the budget cuts, wr•s the grant to this group.
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is.I think, the Southwest Social Services group.
Mayor Suarez: Right, and they are asking for monies to expand too, so.
Mr. Borell: Yes.
Mayor, -Suarez: And they are not being recommender, so we've got a real problem-'
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Ms.. Gloria Rosello: Good afternoon Mayor, and members of the Commission. My
name is Gloria Rosello, and I belong to the CDBG Board, here with FranXie
Rolle,, all . of us,. Marie Anne Adker, and all of us are here present tonight.
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yQu,go,to that page and you will see the recommendations of the staff, and how
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Plummer,.;to breakdown who needs the most, where. It was very hard for us to
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then-here.today, we are here...
Mayor;Suarers: Who was your recommendation, Gloria, on the Housing? Public
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creates the problem for us probably, is that we are looking, at least some of
us are looking to try to carve but some funds from the housing, or Economic
Development component here. OK,
Ms. Rosello: And in the different neighborhoods as you see, you know, in that
page of Physical Improvement, even you know, I mean, we had to lobby between
ourselves you know, to be able to see what area needs what. Like my area in
particular which was...
Mayor Suarez: You did that totally on the record of course, you didn't do it
behind the scenes, and all that. Right here. - I
Ms. Rosello: No, we did it on the record.
Mayor Suarez: Of course, that's what the law requires.
Ms. Rosello: We did. I did on the record, Mayor.
Mayor Suarez: Yes.
Ms. Rosello: We did it on the record.
Mayor Suarez: Great.
Ms. Rosello: I mean it.
Mayor Suarez: Comply with the law in all respects.
Ms. Rosello: When I said the Little Havana...
Mayor Suarez: What other major divergences, or discrepancies are there
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Ms. Rosello: In Physical Improvement? - everything.
Mayor Suarez: Give me some examples.
Ms. Rosello: They just recommended forty thousand dollars for the Notre Dame,`
and they recommended Little Havana Childcare, thirty-two thousand. And Lyric
Theater, fifty, and St. Agnes one hundred thousand. We recommended everything
else" that is in there.' The boxing gymnasium for Little. Havana .for _thirty
thousand dollars. The Latin Quarter, the street improvement for Curtis Park.
The 'recreation 'building for Common Stock Parr:. The Grand Avenue Park
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improvement. The Coconut Grove Franklin Cemet:ry fence. The Neighborhood
Recreition'center. Edison Center. gateway- improvement. Neighborhood street
improvement, D.A. Dorsey. Lyric Theater which you know...
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Commiationers. What do you propose?
Vice Mayor Plummer: Can I... let me go back to my original...
Mayor Suaraz: I guess Regis House, we sort of suggested that we are going to
look for Law Enforcement Trust fund monies.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Why do you have to have thAt Code Enforcement in there?
How much money do they raise? Hello. Is there anybody home?
Mr. Odio: Yes, sir.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Why do they have to have three hundred thousand dollars
($300,000) from CBD?
Mr. Odio: This is the additional inspectors we added when we created the Code
Enforcement division, in Planning and Building Zcning, at the request of...
Vice Mayor Plummer: How much money did they raise in fines and forfeitures
last year?
Mr. Odio: Well, I have to check that number.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Roughly.
Mr. Odio: Well I know, the last time I looked Just in the Code Enforcement
Board, I know we had about seven million dollars in fines,
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expect to collect, but there has been substantial amounts of
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Mr. Odio: Then you tell me how you pay...
Commissioner Alonso: Mr. Mayor... Mr. Manager, are these new
positions, this
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Mr. Odio: No.
Commissioner Alonso: How many positions are we talking about?
Mr. Odio: If you are talking three hundred thoufand, at least
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million eight hundred and. seventy-five thousand, without my going to -the
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Vice Mayor Plummer: OK. Now, if we take that hundred and sixty-one thousand
that's in there, hopefully, that the State will come forth with in the summer,
and we allocate that now, the worse that Can happen is, that we would have to
fund it from the General Fund. Is that correct?
Mr. Castaneda: Wells yes. And I am sure the Manager would think that that
was pretty bad.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Well don't stutter, just antuer my question.
Mr. Castaneda: Yes, that's the worst thing that would happen, but the Manager
would lose a hundred thousand dollars ($100,000) from the General Fund.
Vice Mayor Plummer: A hundred and sixty.
Mr. Castaneda: Well, because there is... I said a hundred thou, because he
has sixty-eight thousand in contingency.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Oh, I am going to use that also.
Mr.Castaneda: Ohl OK.
Vice Mayor Plummer: OK.
Commissioner Alonso: That's right.
Vice Mayor Plummer: OK. Mr. Mayor, I'm going to make my thoughts known. I
am sticking to m guns as it relates to the social B Y 8 programs, and I'll speak to
that one first. I think that we have to go back, and we have to.readjust :in
some way, 'shape, or form, that in fact... that the .people that are being fed
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don't give them an increase over what is recommended, and I am saying,, -only -an
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in'fact,'`they will be restored to a level that is equivalent to the cost
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figure that out. Frank, that's what we pay you for, to go back and determine
what is a reasonable increase. If it's four percent, -or five percent: Now,
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Commissioner Dawkins I guess I'll have to copy a saying from Carrie Meek,
who said that she has been at Miami Dade Community College to see everything
go around five or six times. I guess I've been there long enough to see
things go around three or four times. Today, I find myself in an adversary
position, with individuals who we have fought side by side for, for the same
things we are here arguing for now. People like Annie Love, who has been out
there in the trenches, Ade11e Dillot, Matty, and the others, and it's funny
how at that time, the only place that they could get money with which to fight
the system, was Miami Dade. They came to Miami Iade, and they were taught how
to be advocates. And all of this was done with the Miami Dade Community
College's money. Now today, they come and say that Miami Dade needs money,
and Housing needs money, but it puts both of them at an adversary position,
which is not necessary. Now, I am going to vote the CD Board's
recommendations down the line, but I'd like to say that, and I am going to say
it again, and I say it to Mr. Phillips every tine he comes here, I don't like
for Mr. Phillips to come down here and bring pe,)ple, and attempt to point me
in a corner, paint me in a corner. I've been here too long for that, and I
have fought in this community for the betterment of everybody. And when
somebody comes down here and says that we, at this Commission, are not
responsive to the needs of the people, and the Elderly, that's a lie. Nobody
has been more responsive than us. When nobody would give money to put locks
and screens on doors in the project, the City of Miami gave it. When nobody
would provide money for policemen to make the project safe for the elderly,
Miami Dade provided it. But yet, the attitude seems to be, we don't care what
you did yesterday, we don't care what you are doing today, what are you going
to .do tomorrow? That's fine, if we had the money. Now, the HUD people have
money, and I've asked them, how many people have you hired in the community to
work in these units? - zero. But yet, you want we to come and have the people
think that I am being irresponsible. No. If you're going to repair these
house, use the people who live there. The County took over the surtax money,
right? And they spent the money, but it's not spent within these projects in
the City of Miami. If so, tell me where? The City donated money for the
Trauma Center. The County did not, but you say, the City is irresponsible.
We are not responsive to the needs of the people. And yet, the... he said
that we are the landlords. We are not the landlords. If the City of Miami
was the landlords, we would take the property. And then we could manage it,
and we could take our money and do what we want. But there again, HUD wants
us to give them money, and they don't bring us no plan of action, they don't
tell us where they're going to spend it. Th•_y say, give me the money,. and
I'll go and do what I'm going to do, and you have to accept on face value that
I utilized the money to the best of the City of Miami. How much.money is for
administration in HUD? HUD jumps on the City of Miami for administration.
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have personnel if you don't spend money. So I guarantee you that HUD Is
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administration per capita, or per amount, is no way less, and may be not any
more, but no more less than the same amount of money that the City of Miami
takes for administration. Undercapitalization, it isamazing how Mr. Phillips
suggested how I, as a City Commissioner, should take City of Miami tax
dollars, and CD funds and utilize them. When Mr. Phillips does not come to
ame,
as a City Commissioner, and inquire how they should expend County funds.
Well if it's fair for him to stand up there and tell me, that he would suggest -
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that I do this with CD funds,- and he suggest thAt I do that, that's fine, he
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is entitled to his opinion. But don't say that I should do that, if you are.
not going to do the same thing for me. I've said before, nobody in the City
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of Miami, has done anymore for Public Housing than the. City of Miami, and I.
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the City of Miami is not doing his fair share. And I would be voting with CD
Board's recommendations.915.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Mr, Mayor.
Mayor Suarez: Yes..
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Vice Mayor Plummer: I would like, if it's possible with... not to cut off my'
other ;olleagues, but when the time is appropriate. I would ,like to take and
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make a motion to approve the Social programe as Presented, with a full
understanding, that before second reading, those programs relating to food,
would be boosted back up to the cost inflation factor, before the second
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rtadtng;t�o.comq :from the so called, conti�ngenoy fund. So I am just saying, if
we.are going to handle this in segment...
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Mayor Suarez: OK. You are talking about the recommendations then, of 3
staff, not of the Board,
Vice Mayor Plummer: Sir, they are the same, as l understand.
Mr, Castaneda: No. There are some differences, Commissioner.
Vice Mayor Plummer: You are very, very close.
Mayor Suarez: OK,
Mr, Castanedat Right. In the Board, there is no contingency money, they
allocated the full amount.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Excuse me? —
Commissioner Dawkins: What page are you on, J.L.7
Mr. Odio: The only difference is, they allocated. -
r Mayor Suarez: You must be using the staff recommendation. If you have a
contingency account, which later would then be able to...
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Vice Mayor Plummer: I'm on the single page.
Commissioner Dawkins: We've got the single page.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Attachment two.
�Mr. Castaneda: Right. You're talking about final staff's recommendation.
Mr._Odio: The only difference is that they used the contingency, and we
didn't. That's all.
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Commissioner Dawkins: I don't have that. May I have a copy of what J.L. {
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Vice Mayor.=:Plummer: The bottom:line that I have is... ,
Mr: Odio: Here.
Vice Mayor Plummer: The bottom l ne of the CD'Advisory Board... Oh no, it's r'
two hundred and thirty thousand. OKc If you add the sixty-eight and the one
bUty-one, that'-s the difference, so�basically, they are in fact, the same.
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'' Mr. =' asta pdar In' final staff'e =recommendation. In the =CD -Advisory Board,.
pax there are more,
Y Ba Maystr Plummer: New programs?
Mac, Castano-as Right. The are: fundin the Haitian American Civic Club, for.
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Commissioner Alonao: We are giving fifteen
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Vice Mayor Plummer: To who?
Mr. Castaneda: To Agape.
Commissioner Alonso: To Agape. Item 18.
Mr, Castanedat Under another funding
source. Under the Police
Drug
Intervention Program.
Commissioner Alonso: Yes.
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Vice Mayor Plummer: What I was going to do, it's immaterial on first
reading,
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which one I recommend. Because it's fully
clear on... before second
reading,
what my intent is. And my intent is, that
in the feeding programs,
that the
inflation factor be reinstated in those feeding programs under
social
services, before second reading.
Mr. Castaneda: Commissioner, you know, and I think that you intent is to
approve final staff recommendation, because that's the one that has the
contingency amount of two hundred and thirty thousand dollars ($230,000), and
to figure out an appropriate percentage to increase the feeding programs. Is
that correct?
Vice Mayor Plummer: That's fine. I would... if that's in... if I am in
order, Mr. Mayor...
Mayor Suarez: Yes; please.
Vice Mayor Plummer: ... I would so move.
Mayor Suarez: So moved.
Vice Mayor Plummer: With the proviso that the}understand,` prior to second
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Y;F Commissioner 'Alonso: The difference will be...
Commissioner De Yurre: We are just talking about social services only?
`{ Commissioner Dawkins; Which one?
,FVice Mayor Plummer: I am speaking only to Sociyl Services.
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'Mr*! Odio: Yes, .-sir.
Coiigiesionbr D4wkin'su This is what you are reading from, right?
T '111;0meiissiorisr Aipnsot Then Regis will not receive any money, Agape will not
reaaive any money, The Haitian American Civic Club will not receive any
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the inflation factor in the food programs, It. the staff s recommendation,
there is a contingency fund...
Commissioner Dawkinss Where?-
Vice Mayor Plummer, Right here on the bottom.
Commissioner Dawkins: Uncommitted.
Vice Mayor Plummer: That's correct, sir. And that in fact, could be used to
offset the inflation factor to bring those programs back up to not having to
cut out anybody from a hot meal. Now here again, I am only doing it for first
reading, with the full understanding that what :-,hay have got to do, is find...
Commissioner Dawkins: OK, you've talked me into it. Go and sit down.
Vice Mayor Plummer: 1 can't believe it was that easy. I so...
Mayor Suarez: All right, as to that motion, we have a motion. Do we have a
second, as to that portion?
Commissioner Dawkins: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Second. Any further discussion? If not, please call the roll.
_ The following motion was introduced by Vic( Mayor Plummer, who moved its
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MOTION NO. 91-277
A MOTION APPROVING, IN PRINCIPLE, STAFF'S
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RECOMMENDATIONS FOR FUNDING OF SOCIAI. SERVICE AGENCIES
WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE AGAPE ACADEMIC ENRICHMENT
CENTER, AS MORE FULLY DESCRIBED IN ATTACHMENT II OF
THE MEMORANDUM FROM CITY MANAGER TO THE HONORABLE
MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COMMISSION DATED MARCH
28, 1991; FURTHER PROVIDING THAT FUNDING FOR ALL
FEEDING PROGRAMS WOULD BE ADJUSTED TO REFLECT
INFLATION FACTORS.
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Dawkins, the motion was passed and
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adopted by the following vote:
k, AYES: Commissioner Victor De Yurre_
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Miriam Alonso
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Vice Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
kJ Mayor Xavier L. Suarez,
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Commissioner Alonao: I -will vote, yes, provided that in the second reading,;
we can produce some changes, and I will make motions to that effect. I vote,
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M8 ►or giiaro&4 Economic Do+velopment,,,Hous�.ng, of ostere .
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Vice Mayor Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I would recommend that you take those taro an
separate items. 5F
Mayor Suarez: Fine. r:
Commissioner Alonsot Yes.
Commissioner Dawkina: Which one? -
Mayor Suarez: On the Dousing then - we get tbat resolved. Do we have any
motions that first carve out anything for...?
Commissioner De Yurret On economic...?
Mayor Suarez: public housing? - so that we know what we have left.
Commissioner Alonso: Yes. May I make... in reference to Regis House, and the
question that I asked about the Law Enforcement Trust Fund, do we have to make
a motion or not?
Mayor Suarez: Yes, let's do a motion in principle. Why not?
Commissioner Alonso: I think it's in principle...
Mayor Suarez: Making a strong recommendation.
Commissioner Alonso: ... that we support the idea, and encourage the Law
Enforcement Trust Fund to look into the possiIility of allocating a certain
amount, we suggest... —
Vice Mayor Plummer: There is a better way to do it. The next time they bring
something up, don't vote for it.
{ Commissioner Alonso: That's right, but maybe, they will not come that soon,
and- I'll be in hot water. So, I'd better do i c , this way, and if not, I will
definitely vote against that. As a matter of f sct, I am very disturbed with
some`of the things we.approved. We have some tof.ay, I guess.
K.F Commissioner De Yurre Was a motion of recommendation?
Mayor Suarez: Yes.
Vice Mayor Plummert I'm sorry?
Commissioner De Yurre: A motion to recommend?
Commissioner Alonso: Yes, to recommend. f
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'just' so. he has that signal.
Commissioner Al0nso: It's just to present our support, and they can look into t
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Mayor Suarez: Right. To have Law Enforcement Trust Fund look at that without $.
prejudice to further consideration on their contingency funds, or otherwise.--
Mr.Fernandez: Mr.:Mayor, a point of clarification.
Mayor Suarez: Yes.
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`g Mr. Fernandez: When you all speak of, second reading, you are actually
referrinuto item 34, which is the ordinance that establishea the„fund. When
you are talking now about allocations, which it what you are talking about.
are:---, talkingabout A, resolution -which ,would be item, 33, And.. what, ;y.►u
Mead, to do. at . this time, is ' a preliminary vote, which its, really ;nit err
t > nta ItttuAt to pat�aing item 33, You are just merely expreasing what, you .would , },
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Mr. Fernandez: Well, but then if you do that, technically speaking, and you
change it, then you have to reconsider this motion that you are passing right
now, next time you broach the subject again.
Mayor Suarez: Well I just don't want to have a complete public hearing next
time, that's all. I just,..
Commissioner Dawkins: We are on economic development?
Mayor Suarez: No, no. Even as to...
Mr. Fernandez: I just to make the record clear that if you are dealing on
item 33, and you are breaking it up...
Mayor Suarez: You solve it. You guys solve i'.. You are the experts. We
want to make sure that we vote to give you an indication of what we want to
do. To prevent public hearings again. We have heard everybody, and
Commissioners may look at this matter and have whatever proper modifications
that they think ought to be made between first: and second readings of the
ordinance. The resolution, you solve it, how we should do that, please.
Mr. Fernandez: No, but, I just understood that. Vice Mayor Plummer's social
services vote, as item 33, in partial.
Mayor Suarez: I don't know what item it i-_ It's a resolution on the
allocation of the social services monies with indications that, from the
contingency fund that is created by the very vote, some funds be found to
compensate for the meal programs, as per the inflation factor that he
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mentioned.
Mr. Fernandez: We understand. So you intend that to be final? Because that
is not coming back to you again.
Mayor Suarez: Well, Commissioner Alonso I believe, voted for it with some
provisos, that she has another look at it, which I presume that she will be
able to, if we build this into a first reading of an ordinance, and then have
A second reading. I mean, we can always change our mind about things, right?
Mr. Fernandez: So then what I am trying to ask you, is that you then want to
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keep this a motion, not a formal resolution? If you want to have a second go—
at it...
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Mayor Suarez: All right, we will do it that way then. I'm not sure that I
agree with you, but why argue?
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Commissioner Dawkins: Are we on economic development? What are we on?
Mayor Suarez: No, social services clarification. All right, economic...
Commissioner Dawkins: social services?
Vice Mayor Plummer: No, we've finished Social Services.
-s Commissioner Dawkins: That's what I though. What are we on?
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Mayor -Suarez: All right. Yes, we have just a clarification on the import of
our prior motion.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Question, Mr. Mayors'
r, Commissioner Alonso: Well, we have to take a voce on the Regis House?
Mayor Suarez: Yes, ` We -wore about to recommend that Law Enforcement gust
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Commissioner Alonso: Not at the present time.
Mayor Suarez: At least not now, right.
Vide Mayor Plummer: Call the roll.
Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded over here, on ny left.
The following motion was introduced by Commissioner Alonso, who moved
its adoption:
MOTION NO. 91-278
A MOTION OF THE CITY COMMISSIOD, IN PRINCIPLE,
REFERRING TWO FUNDING REQUESTS FROM (1) REGIS HOUSE,
AND (2) GEORGIA JONES AYERS' PROGRAM, TO THE CHIEF OF
POLICE, URGING HIM TO FAVORABLY COKbIDER FUNDING SAID
REQUESTS FROM THE LAW ENFORCEMENT 1'\JST FUND.
Upon being seconded by Vice Mayor Plummer, the motion
was passed and
adopted by the following vote:
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AYES: Commissioner Victor De Yurre
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Miriam Alonso
Vice Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
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ABSENT: None.
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Commissioner Dawkins: Discussion. Mr. Manager, why is it :that we are
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referring
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with, to the Law
aw Enforcement Funds, and the project that Ms. Georgia Jones Ayers got, it getso
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money from here, and from over there. Why? Why couldn't
that project also
get all of .this money from the Law Enforcement, so that we would have more
money in here?
Mr. Odio: That's a good point.
y` Commissioner Dawkins: All right. Then I want to refer
the two of them,
please. Refer -the -two of them over there. Tha: will give
us sixty thousand
dollars ($60,000) more in this, to...
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Mr. Odio: If we don't have enough funds over there, we don't
want to not fund
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Mayor Suarez: Well, they said two million, but two million
dollars they have.
Commissioner Alonsos Well, we will see how much money they
can give to these
programs, ii any,
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v- }t CQ�niseiQAor Dawkins: Now, are we on economic development?
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Mayor Suarez: Yes. Fconomic development is e,ghty-five percent of the total
funding. You wanted to separate it further, between...?
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twelve million six thirteen, and fourteen thousand zero thirteen? Where is
this other million for? '
Mr. Castaneda: That's the program income received by the housing agency the
housing agency for the single and multifamily rehab loan. That's a revolving r
loan fund, and the money goes back into the program to make additional loans.
Vice Mayor Plummeri Restricted for that account only?
Mr.. Castanedas Restricted for that account only. And I believe that it is
also.. but...
Vice Mayor Plummer: Now are you telling me that, that is in addition to the
four million?
Mr. Castaneda: That is correct, Commissioner.
Vice Mayor Plummer: So you are telling me...
Mr. Castaneda: Let me clarify. One point two million dollars goes to
Housing, and I believe about a hundred and some is the estimated amount that
we're going to get from demolition of multifamily structures that liens have
been put on by the Building Department.
Vice Mayor Plummer: So, what you are telling me then is, that the Department
of Housing .is getting roughly, five and -a -half million dollars?
Mr: Castaneda:- Five point three. -
Vine Mayor Plummer: We better start looking into that one. OK, go -:ahead
Commissioner. I'm sorry. -
Commissioner Dawkins:- OK. We are under economic development, right?
Vice Mayor -Plummer: If you wish.
Commissioner Dawkins: Did anybody make a motion?
Vice -Mayor Plummer: Not yet.
Commissioner De Yurre: No.
yw Commissioner Dawkins: OK. I'm going to move CD Board's recommendation...
Mayor Suarez: So moved.
Commissioner.Dawkins::_ cutting'.Miami Dade tc, a million, from seventy-five
thousand...
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Vdae SMayor Plummer: Wait a minute.
Commissioner Dawkins: .., and cutting Martin Luther King...
t ,a Vice Mayor Plummer: They; did 'not make... oh, you are talking about ;physical
improv$menta,.or?economic development? ..
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Commissioner Alonso: Here, this one. Attachment one.
Commissioner Dawkins: Turn... go to your white took. Go to your white book.
Commissioner De Yurret They say, that's a requec,t.
Commissioner Alonsot That's not the one, Look in your backup.
Commissioner De Yurre: It's not where it's been..,
Commissioner Alonsot It's not there, It's the ether one.
Mr. Castanedat Attachment one?
Commissioner Alonso: Before that.
Commissioner Dawkins: I know it... hey, hey, I said, and I'm going to say it
again.
Vice Mayor Plummer: You can't tell the players without a program.
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Commissioner Alonso: That's it.
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Commissioner Dawkins: CD Board recommended a million seventy-five thousand
dollars ($1,075,000).
Mr. Castaneda: That is correct.
Commissioner Dawkins: And I am saying that, I am going to move CD Board's
recommendation, reducing it to a million, and reducing Martin Luther King
Development from a hundred thousand to fifty thousand. And Wynwood Economic
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Development, reducing it, from a hundred thousand to fifty thousand. And the.
rest of it is the same as the staff recommendations. I'll recommend that the
Tai-City Community Association, go from ninety-four thousand. down to staff
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recommendation of fifty-seven thousand. And I so move, with the proviso, that
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Mayor Suarez: So moved.
Commissioner De Yurre: You are on economic development, right?
Commissioner Dawkins: Yes. What I -want that, the Latin Quarter Association:;
receive the amount of fifty thousand dollars ($50,000).
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Commissioner Dawkins: So.moved. I'll accept that amendment..
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Commissioner Alonso: It's included, isn't it?
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Commissioner Alonso; Latin Quarter Association is a new application, and in
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Commissioner Alonso: Yes. It is included.
Commissioner De Yurre: OK. That's fine,
Vice Mayor Plummers But wait a minute. Can't you take money, Frank, from
housing programs and put it in economic development?
fir."Castaneda: Obviously, you can, Commission, but the reason that stuffn�i�
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Vice Mayor Plummer: I realize that you have a max on social services,
Mr. Castaneda: Where is no max on anything else,
Vice Mayor Plummers OK. So you can take money from housing programs and put
it into economic development projects?
Mr. Castaneda: That is correct, Commissioner,
Vice Mayor Plummer: OK. Now, the other area, and let me see how you... if
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you have it separated here. You have... on this other sheet that I was
looking at previously, you have the allocations of administration, social,
code enforcement, the one I have a problem with. What is the jobs program?
That's the Citywide Neighborhood .lobs Program, which is operated out of my
department, Community Development, and Ivey Kearson is the head of it.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Is that part of PIC (Private Industry Council)?
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Mr. Castaneda: That is also funded by the Private Industry Council. Last
year was funded at the level of $374,000 and because of our success in the
Private Industry Council, we have cut that allocation to two hundred and
twenty this year.
Vice Mayor Plummer: But I mean, is that CD money in addition to the PIC
allocation?
Mr. Castaneda: That is the community development money in addition to the
Private Industry Council allocation. Correct, Commissioner.
Vice Mayor Plummer: OK, so I guess Commissioner Dawkins...
Commissioner Dawkins: Yes.
Vice Mayor Plummer: What I'm trying to bring to your attention or as the
maker of the motion, that I think that we can take money from the above named
projects, and put it down in economic development projects - I mean, into
physical improvements. You're going with the CD board, which come to four
six...
Commissioner Dawkins: But I'm also reducing it by fifty, a hundred
thousand...
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Commissioner Alonso: A hundred and seventy -fire...
Vice Mayor Plummer: Well let me come back I Y , guess where I'm coming from.
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Mr. Manager, it would seem like to me the senior crimewatch program could come
out of the LEEA funds as other crime preventive programs, and that within
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itself:.is thesavingof .$55,000. Am I out of base on that, Mr. Manager?
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worked with that fund, and I'm not familiar wjth all the. regulations, but
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V ae Mayor glummer: Let me ask, Mr. Manager, the one thing that I don't see
in here that I'm very concerned about, and that is in the Wynwood area, the
free trade ,zone, Frank. I see Wynwood community economic development of
$50,000.
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potential application?
Mr. Castanedat if they're able to get the state money, yes. The question is,
whether they're going to be able to get the state funding.
Vice Mayor Plummert OK, now, physical programs. The only one that 1 want to
fight for at this particular point, is the expansion program of the Southwest
Senior Citizens Day Care, Where is that, Frank?
Commissioner De Yurret Is that the Flagami one?
Vice Mayor Plummert Yes.
Commissioner De Yurret OK.
Mr. Castanedat Oh, Flagami? That's under CW,
Vice Mayor Plummer: Yes, OK, that's $54,800.
Mr. Castaneda: That is correct.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Yes, I want to fight for that one.
Mr. Castaneda: OK.
Vice Mayor Plummer: I think that is most important.
Mr. Castaneda: Well, perhaps if the Commissioners wants to make a decision
concerning the trauma center.
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Vice Mayor Plummer: That's a commitment. We have no choice.
Commissioner De Yurret No, we have a commitment, but we have also a -million
dollars...
Mayor Suarez: Right.
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- Now,.this is just what I understood, we were going to^keep that in abeyance in
f�= case something elsehappened, either with Camillus House- or some similar
situation' as Camillus House. Camillus House ain't going to go away, guys.
Hey, it'a-going to be there whether its'_calletl Camillus House or Help -the
Homeless or whatever . it is.
' Mr. Odio: Plummer's Funeral Home.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Plummer's - no, that's not true.
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T mayor Suarez: Anyhow, it was three hundred thousand out of a million,
h In subsequent years, presumably we would start our CDBG grant ycie by
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Mr. Castaneda: 'Twelve point six million dollars.
Mayor Suarez: We got the answer, we got the answer.
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happens with housing.
Mayor Suarez: If we vote favorably to this...
Mr. Castaneda: Ten million...
Mayor Suarez: ...because my own main concern here, frank, is to not preempt
the allocation of roughly a million dollars to Little HUD. Is that preempted
in any way by this vote?
Mr. Odio: Well, no... Let me simplify this for a minute. We have...
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Mayor Suarez: Wait, can I just get an answer to that?
Mr. Odio: We're not talking about housing right now.
Mayor Suarez: All right. Our idea would be that that money comes from
housing.
Mr. Odio: Yes, but the problem is, you see tiese two monies are combined,
housing and economic development. And you have a total of ten million, --seven
twenty-one, oh fifty.
Mayor Suarez: Right. This motion covers how tm ch of that?
Vice Mayor Plummer: No, wait, wait, wait. Wait. 'Either you've given me some
bad figures, or you're giving the Mayor a bad answer. OK? On this page...
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Vice Mayor Plummer: Go-ahead, sir:
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What. Commissioner.Dawkins just did on economic development
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gave $4,677,860, , so you have to subtract that and that's what you have left]
then for total housing projects.
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Commissioner Alonso: Like four million, four hundred and seventy-seven.
Because hecutlike $200,000, h think,
Mr. Odio: You would have six million, forty-three, right? Am I correct? You
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would have six million, forty-three thousand... six million, zero forty-three,
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comi.eeioner.Dawkins:::.For=what? For what?
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Mr. Odios And total administration,
Commissioner Dawkins: Olt, we're going to cut out the administration.
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Mr. Odiot Correct.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Goodbye "botellas."
Mayor Suarez: OK,
t' vice Mayor Plummer: They said in the State of Florida with the new bottle bill
sponsored by my brother, if they put a tax --.n "botallas" that they would
really make a fortune.
Mr. Odio: l know, the administration comes out of all the programs. So
subtract the administration and let's see what you get net left for housing.
Commissioner De Yurre: Well, where are we at if give Little HUD a million
dollars?
Mr; Odio: We might as well shut down the housing agency right now, p-
Mayor Suarez: Mathematically, not philosophically, where are we at if we j
allocate...
Mr. Odio: Well, according to the... we would have $725,000 left for the
housing agency.
Commissioner Alonso: How much?
Mr. Odio: $725,000 left. That doesn't even... it's enough to pay for staff.
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Commissioner De Yurre: Where do you get that?
Mayor,Suarez: OK, the other day we were discussing g total recommendation of
a Little bit over four million for housing programs, of which we are talking
about a million for public and elderly housing. ,
Mr. Odio: Yes, you',re just going by CD board;rec:ommendations and;.when you....
Mayor Suarez: OK, so what you're saying is if we go by CD board
recommendations, ,which are muck: higher for all these _other programs, that
leaves the housing problem much smaller and if you subtract then
administration, .which is what? -are you using 20 percent for administration,
is that your figure?
Mr; .Odio:: ' Yes.
Mr. Castanedax, Yes, Mayor.
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' Mayor 'Suarez;. Twenty percent for administration. That leaves a scant amount '
minus a million dollars for all the housing programs.
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a Mr. Odio,; You wauid have. for the total amount of housing after yQu dedu }
, ryerythiag else, after what you have done, $3,300,590, So if you take it off
that, the HUD and the other price is set, you don't have a housing agency.
=_Votf enough,
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rougjjly:,.four mill Joan for:housing, of which we would .
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to $46,000, According to
this, if you give that one million dollars, everyone
of those programs are
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Mr. Odio: But, if you don't - OK.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Every one of them.
Mayor Suarez: If you then allocate that among .,11
of them equally.
Vice Mayor Plummer: That's correct.
Mr. Odio: If you do that. If you do that.
Mayor Suarez: That's one way to do it.
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Vice Mayor Plummer: That's the way it is here it front of me.
Mr. Castaneda: Right, Commissioner,..
Mayor Suarez: Well, because that was sort of the
hypothetical we gave them.
But the other way, there's many many other ways you can then supplement or
compensate for the million dollars. That's not the only way to do it.
Mr. Castaneda: Commissioners, and this using final staff recommendation. If
you use the CD board recommendation, you would find that the housing would be
more drastically cut.
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Mayor Suarez: OK, you don't have one of these that would use CD board
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recommendations and the hypothetical of a million earmarked for HUD, do you?
Mr. Castaneda: No, the reason that I didn't do that is because the board's
recommendation for the housing department was $725,000, period.
Mr. Odio: Out of four million.
Mayor Suarez: Please, please. So it was very minimal for...
Mr. Odio: That's not even enough to pay staff, never mind giving loans out
for anyother programs.
Commissioner De Yurre: OK, now, Cesar, what is... hold it...
Commissioner Dawkins: Where is the... oh, here it is.
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Mr. Odio:- Right now, four million,
Commissioner De Yurre: How much of that is salaries and employment?
Mr. Odio: -How much is that? -eight hundred...
Mayor Suarez; Twenty percent is the formula that we're using. That's the
maximum that the government allows.
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then you're telling me administrative cost is ev:tn higher.
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bottom line of $2,522,600,
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Mr. Castanedat Those are administration
costs,
Vice Mayor Plummer: But you got it then
in two J.laces, friend.
Mr. Castanedat No, those are administrative costs for the Department of
Community Development and the base, some
planning, and indirect costs.
Mr. Odiot Total, total.
Vice Mayor Plummert Is that 20 percent
above the four million?
Mr. Odiot No, no, no.
Mr. Castaneda: The costs associated in
the Housing Department.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Yes?
Mr. Castanedat Our staff's cost, which
are considered programmatic costs, or
delivery cost in relation to those
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Vice Mayor Plummer: Are you talking about salaries or what?
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Commissioner Dawkins: You know, before we get carried...
Vice Mayor Plummer: Is that above the four million?
Commissioner Dawkins: Before we get carried away here, because I hear us...-
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Mr. Castaneda: No, that's part of the four million.
Vice Mayor Plummert Huh?
Mr. Castaneda.- That is in the four million.
Vice; Mayor-Plummert OK, that's in the four million.
Mr._Castanedad•. That is correct.
Vice Mayor Plummer: All right, you're giving them four million of which
$800,000 is administrative cost.
^1 Mr. Castaneda: That is correct.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Then,this;figure back here is wrong.
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Mr.«Castaneda: No no, no.
E Vice Mayor Plummer: What do you mean? -no, no, no?
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Commissioner Alonsos So, you mean on top of thit=.
-Mayor= Plummer: IV a. salaries anyway -you l:,ok at it.
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Commissioner Dawkins: Commissioner Plummer, you keep talking and I don't hear
you say nothing about my million dollars for Miami -Dade. I mean, I
understand, and you see, the biggest problem here is, that staff refused to
sit down with the board and try to reach an agreement here on what we have.
So look like staff ,just told the board, we don't care about you, we're going
to go ahead and do what we want to do and you recommend what you want to do,
OK? And that's unfair to us, see. So now, somewhere in here, if you're
talking about giving a half a million dollars to HUD, you also got to talk in
terms of giving a million dollars to Miami -Dade. Or else, you know, you just
aren't going to sit here and sit in and cut in one because unless you got
three votes to do that, and leave another one out.
Vice Mayor Plummer: To my "Blue Brothers", I aim not talking against Miami -
Dade.
Commissioner Dawkins: No, but you're not talking for -it either.
Vice Mayor Plummer: I'm not talking for or against, I'm trying to come to
reality.
Commissioner Dawkins: OK, well talk for us then.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Rah, rah, rah, for Miami -Dade!
Commissioner Dawkins: That's good. That's wonderful. One
more rah. A
Commissioner Alonso: I think you gave three.
Commissioner Dawkins: Go ahead, J.L.
Vice Mayor Plummer: If you will include the southwest Dade expansion for
Flagami area, which I feel is very very importaat, I will
go along with your
motion.
Commissioner Dawkins: All right, so move. I amend my motion to include that
which was stated by J.L. Plummer.
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Commissioner De Yurre: OK, now what motion was that?
Commissioner Dawkins: To move staff recommendation...
Vice Mayor Plummer: The staff recommendation.
Commissioner Dawkins: No, to remove... wait a minute
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Vice Mayor Plummer: I'm sorry.
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Commissioner Dawkins: ...with the additional changes and
adding the half a;
million dollars that somebody up here wants to give to HUD.
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Commissioner De Yurre: They got fifty thousand.
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Commissioner Dawkins: No, no it's not. Not unless we add it, No, ma'am.
The Latin Quarter Association, new application, we have to add it,
Vice Mayor Plummer: Ah, you see?
Commissioner Alonsot In the board recommendation?
Commissioner De Yurre: Well, I'm looking here, it's here. What sheet are we
usingi guys?
Commissioner Alonsot It is in the board recommendation, $50,000. It is
included.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Yes, it is in the board. Yes, OK.
Commissioner Alonsot Yes, yes.
Commissioner De Yurre: It's in the book.
Mayor Suarez: Yes, the motion as stated is the board recommendation. Now,
how are you adjusting that to include a half a million dollars for HUD now?
Vice Mayor Plummer: We'll get to that later on. We're not on housing
programs now, we're on physical improvements, correct?
Mr. Fernandez: But it impacts...
Mayor Suarez: But if you take funds from general economic development, you're
leaving a smaller and smaller pot for housing, and then if you take a million
dollars from housing, or half a million, that they're telling us that we're
dismantling many of our housing programs.
Vice Mayor Plummer: No, because that's not the way that I think three votes
are; going to go.
Mayor Suarez: All right. Why - well, OK, I w 11 at some point, if anybody
wants to move it, and if not, I'll move it. I will set my priority to be to
make sure that we've got some money for public housing. And then we take
from the rest that is there.
Commissioner Alonso: Definitely.
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Commissioner De Yurre: How much money?
Mayor Suarez: I'll entertain a motion on it, if you want to do a substitute
motion to the one on the floor so we can get that out of the way, as a...
Vice Mayor Plummer: Wait a minute now, are we on housing or are we on
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':. Mayor "Suarez: They're saying that depending on how you start on.this, you�ars
restricting funds for the other portion because they're really the same thing,
J.L. You can discuss it together as we've been doing, but for example, if ,you
start off by saying, you'll give a million dollars to Miami -Dade Community
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motion made, bythe time you get to housing, you've got almost no money, left
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Mr. Castaneda: And that's exactly what happened to the board,
Commissioner Dawkinet OK, my motion was - and I'll make my motion again r
we move economic development projects adding Miami -Dade request,
cutting the Martin Luther King Economic Development from fifty thousand from.,
4.:#undred-thousand to fifty;thousand the New Washington Heights, I mean
WynwoQd gcssnomic Development from a hundred thousand to fifty thousand. And
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Commissioner Dawkins: Yes, one million.
Commissioner Alonzo: OK. So $75,000 will be cut,
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Commissioner Dawkins: Will be cut. Yes, ma'am.
Commissioner Alonzo: OK,
Commissioner De Yurre: So you're going with the
CD board?
Commissioner Dawkins: Yes, right. With those
adjustments. And
I'm moving
economic development, then we can go to housing.
That's my motion.
Mayor Suarez: So moved and I don't know if
we have a second,
but in the
meantime, while we wait for the second on that...
Vice Mayor Plummer: No, I second it.
Mayor Suarez: Second. OK.
Vice Mayor Plummer: That includes the southwest expansion.
Commissioner Dawkins: Yes it.. for the fourth and fifth and last time...
Mayor Suarez: Since I don't have the assurance that that would still leave
enough. money for a substantial commitment to housing, to public housing, I
won't be voting for that. So if somebody wants to make a motion that first
earmarks that...
Commissioner Dawkins- Well, let's try it first and see if it passes.. Then if
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it passes,, I don't have:to come back to you. If. it don't, I have to come back
to you.
Mayor:;. Suarez: Well, but I want to do it the other way around if there's a
substitute motion.
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Commissioner De Yurre: I'll make a substitute motion.
Commissioner Alonso: Include it. Substitute motion with the $500,000.
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Mayor Suarez: And, , if not, then I'll...
Commissioner De Yurre: I'll,make a substitute motion.
Mayor Suarez: Thank you.
Commissioner-De,-,Yurre: Of approving' - let's see which one I'm.;going to
approve now -,We can•approve final staff recommendation for housing. However,
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�.; the morning, that's not what I...
t; Mayor Suarez: OK, you're carving out - wait a minute, let me understand the
motion - you're carving out the million dollars from the housing?
Commissioner De Yurre: Well, I would carve out the million dollars straight
up and down like we have in this proposal.
Mayor Suarez: All right, so moved then, becausca that's the one I would vote
r for. To do it on a proportional basis from all the other programs.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Let me understand. You're cutting down housing by a
million dollars?
Commissioner De Yurre: No, what I'm saying is...
Mayor Suarez: No, he would earmark a million dollars for public housing and
cut out from all the economic development projects all the other ones, the
entire list, a proportionate amount as indicated in that column.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Oh, no.
Mr. Fernandez: Is that a substitute motion to Commissioner Dawkins?
Vice Mayor Plummer: No.
Commissioner De Yurre: It would basically be...
Vice Mayor Plummer: Charity starts at home.
Mayor Suarez: Let me check on that.
Mr. Castaneda: I think what the Commissioner is asking for is to raise the
housing amount to 5.6 million dollars.
Commissioner De Yurre: Well, what I'm looking at is, on this long sheet here
the one million option.
Mr. Castaneda: Oh, I see what you're saying. _
}: Mr. Odio: What you're doing... let me understaad. You're taking it off the
four million<.for.housing,, one million ;for Little HUD.
> Commissioner Alonso: This is what it does, zero to Miami -Dade, and it does,
Mr. Odio: I, know what he's doing. Oh, that's another one.
Mayor Suarez: Why, is your presentation of the million dollars for HUD, which
we asked you to propose to us with an equivalent reduction to every other
program. Why,does it exclude Miami -Dade Community College altogether? I `
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b'oard's recommendations had Housing Department at $725,940 which the Housing
'. Department cannot survive with.that kind of; money.
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doesn't necessarily contradict what you fellows are .trying to do, but I've got z
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motion. I want to make sure that we do earmark, from the
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por;en� of, , our total. HUD grant, a million dollars. If anybody can build that
into their motion. If not, I'll just make it as a separate motion myself as a
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Commissioner De 'Yurres OK, now, let me ask this question.
million dollars for Camillus house sitting there?
Do we have a
Mr. Odio: Wall, how many times are you going to distribute that one?
Commissioner De Yurre: Well, where has it gone lefore?
Commissioner Dawkinst As many times as you let us.
Mr. Odio: You only have seven hundred thousand .left.
Commissioner De Yurre: OK, where is the other three hundred?
Commissioner Dawkinst As many times as you let us distribute it.
Mr. Odio: The three hundred you took already to pay the first payment of the
trauma center.
Mayor Suarez: Which then here we're having a second payment...
Mr. Odiot That's right.
Mayor Suarez: ...because apparently we think that we have to give two
payments at the same time because we made a commitment last year.
Commissioner De 'Yurres OK, now, let me ask this question.
million dollars for Camillus house sitting there?
Do we have a
Mr. Odio: Wall, how many times are you going to distribute that one?
Commissioner De Yurre: Well, where has it gone lefore?
Commissioner Dawkinst As many times as you let us.
Mr. Odio: You only have seven hundred thousand .left.
Commissioner De Yurre: OK, where is the other three hundred?
Commissioner Dawkinst As many times as you let us distribute it.
Mr. Odio: The three hundred you took already to pay the first payment of the
trauma center.
Mayor Suarez: Which then here we're having a second payment...
Mr. Odiot That's right.
Mayor Suarez: ...because apparently we think that we have to give two
payments at the same time because we made a commitment last year.
Vice Mayor Plummer: No, we're a payment late.
Mayor Suarez: Right, because our first payment is late. I'm not
sure that
that is...
Commissioner De Yurre: OK, so we have seven hundred thousand there
then.
Mayor Suarez: Yes, I don't...
Commissioner Alonso: We don't really have to do that.
Commissioner De Yurre: That we can allocate...
Mayor Suarez:I don't think we have to do that.
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t. • Mr.. Odios :,We give them one payment now and we— but...
Commissioner De Yurre: OK.
Commissioner Alonso: < We can give one payment.
Mr; Odios The next .one is due.- You got $700,000.1eft techni...
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'�- Commissioner De Yurre; So we got seven hundred- that we could
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Vice Mayor Plummer: Let me ask a dumb question.
Commissioner Dawkins It may make sense.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Are you saying, by virtue of taking that seven hundred
thousand dollars, that the homeless situation is gone? -because that's what
You're doing.
Commissioner De Yurre: What we're saying is that we're not acquiring Camillus
House. That's what we're saying.
Vice Mayor Plummer: That problem doesn't exist any more.
Commissioner De Yurre: OK, so we got the money.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Because it was my understanding that we were -going -to
take that money, and address whatever the future we looked at in homeless was.
Mayor Suarez; Yes,, we're trying to prevent more homeless for one thing by
giving money to public housing that will then be improved so people won't
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out; in the street or hiving.,..
Vice Mayor Plummer: Well, Mr. Mayor, you know I'm about ready to go into a
}" long tirade'.and_I tried my damnedest to avoid it. You know, charity.starts at
r, home. You know, and I just want to remind everybody that 27 cents out
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every dollar that Metropolitan Dade County col:ants comes from you and I,the
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spend it on festivals. They spend it on all kinds of things, and then try to
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make:us - look bad when they say they don't have the money. I think that's
}' _unfair. Very unfair. And all I'm saying to you is that our housing authority
comes first; in my - book. Charity starts at home. And all_I think is, -if we
have monies -.that are left over, fine, then- I have no problem. - Whatever is
-f left over; giving it to HUD, but damnit, I want ,.to take care of the home, folk
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take, care of our. people first and foremost. And-I'm>much in accord with
Commissioner. Dawkins,' allocation, of funds.. Now, ; if you want to, ake and talk
about some. allocation to HUD, and you take it from the four million that is
recommended from housing, I'm glad to entertain that. OK?
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vi0e Mayor<:Plummer.i. Or you want to take it f.{c:m the Code Enforcement Board,
OK, You want to take it from administration, 01.. But let me tell you.,.
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Commissioner Do Yurre: Mr. Mayor...
Mayor Suarers But we need motions.
Commissioner De Yurre: OK, Mr. Mayor, just fox the record, the people that
live at Robert King High, the people that live at Jack Orr, the people that
dive at-:Smathers and right.on down the line, are our people too._
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Vice Mayor Plummer: No question.
Commissioner De Yurre: We have to look out for them.
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Vice Mayor Plummer: No question. '
Commissioner De Yurre OK? So we have to have a commitment to those people _
too. So my motion is that .we .take the 1.7, as suggested by Miller, eight-
fifty for _Little HUD, eight -fifty for. Miami -Dade Community College downtown,
rse and we go. right on down the line as suggestei here with the one. million 3
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Vice.Mayor Plummer: You see, :I guess the thing that... -excuse. -me; the, -,thing
that,bothers me, Metropolitan Dade County this year, as I understand.it,
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celled needs. .:That's ;what they have expressed. They are already'projecting�
that their 'needs next year are going to be $100 million dollar short. Now you
set a: precedent here that' "any of their agencies that need money go to. the City �
of Miami, you're going ; to have twice as much requests next year as you havey
this ear,-. Transportation, ra id•.transit Peo lemover' and buses._. The •are {
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adding! to the.'Peoplemover I!m saying to you t'�at when people say to us, -,.and
' `rk let me, tell you, everyone of us hear it from our constituents, `tighten
belt - they.'re still funding festivals, they're still funding an awful lot.of _ -
�ct,. things in Metropolitan Dade County,' and they're still sending a lot oIn
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U don! t :tee :any reap: eort : to turn :that beck at all and.
y1 ce, Mayor ;; g,lummers 'T Why ahau3 d.' thay do. it .when;J, they Just come here'-
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Commissioner Alonso: ...but we're not saying that we are going to contributet?;
with the County and fund the HUD program, or any other problem for that,
matter, but we recognize the need now.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Miriam, let me tell you something. That the twenty
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City of Miami. They're today residing in the City of Miami-
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those people came from Hialeah, some of those people came from Miami Beach.
But let me remind you of the question that I asked of Earl at the last
meeting. How many other municipalities have been asked for money, and how
much have you received? The answer was, as I r=call, we have not requested of —
other municipalities, and we have, of course, received nothing. But now
they're saying that these people are citizens of the City. They are today.
They weren't yesterday. Some of them were, of course, but why aren't the
other municipalities? There's twenty-seven municipalities - soon to be 28 -
municipalities.
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Commissioner Alonso: Looking at the population in Miami, we cannot say where they came from because we will say we have no one then in the City of Miami.
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listening to testimony today, other days, other times, and we have to make up
our minds. We now have, I understand, I think I understand Commissioner De
Yurre's substitute motion to be to follow staff recommendations with the t
reduction for -proportionate reduction for all the groups so as to, under the '
column that allows a million dollars for HUD - and throwing in..
Unidentified Speaker: It's not fair.
Commissioner Alonso: Are you saying board recommendations?
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Vice Mayor Plummer:' That cuts all of these others out.
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Mayor Suarez: The -column that he's pointing to, Frank, is the' same one that
I'm working off of. I want to make sure that it, is essentially in,accordance
`. with what wetve all been thinking about here.
Mr. Bailey: Are you saying we're going to apportion it all the -way down ahe
line on every program, on everybody?
Mayor Suarez; That's the -way that column reads, yes.
Mr. Odio: Then -there's no problem,
Mr.' Baileys OK.
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Mr. Odio: And eight fifty for the... so now, we would have to change this so
that we can reduce... -
Mayor Suarez: No, no, he's taking $700,000,,.
Commissioner Alonso: Why not?
Mayor Suarez: ...left from the Camillus House acquisition...
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making a total of 1.7 dividing that with Miami-:ade Community College, to make
it eight fifty each.
Commissioner Alonso: Can we then go by the CD board?
Vice Mayor Plummer: No.
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Commissioner Alonso: He's adding one million.
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Mr. Castaneda: No, but what I'm saying is that before you thought about
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Mr. Odio: See, that's the difference. In the CD board recommendation to the
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Mayor Suarez: Yes, but she's trying to fit what we're trying to do with what
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and Vice Mayor Plummer, you guys are not really helping much. Mathematically
they're not that different.
Commissioner Alonso: No, they are not. They are trying to confuse us more.
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because Commissioner Dawkins and Plummer apparently generally prefer the CD
board allocations, plus it's a board that we created. And then produce the
savings of &' million dollars that way at the reven hundred Commissioner lie
Yurro4s'suggesting, and then we end up with the same basic...
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board recommendations and staffs recommendation are. In the CD board's
reoommendatiOOO YOU have -half. million dollars for New.Waohiug'ton Hei$hirsJ.LA
buy the, .nand for the hotel. You ,have an additional: $500fl00 worth ,Of so
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staff recommendations has come up with a solution to everything we're talking
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Mr. Bailey: No, no, not really. Because 3.1 we were to take the staff
recommendation which is not that far away froi,. the CD board recommendation,
and we go up and down the line and apportion an amount of money to satisfy
your million dollar desire to give the Dade County HUD, the problem is solved.
Mayor Suarez: God, that's exactly what I thought we were saying two weeks
ago.
Mr. Bailey: 'That's what I thought we were doing. That we would just go ahead
and just take...
Mayor Suarez: And three of us have been saying most of today's discussion.
But somehow, that's the one column that isn't in there.
Mr. Bailey: Can we get back to what I think mi€ht be your solution, and what
I think might be your desire to help Little HUD, your desire to give...
Mayor Suarez: Can we listen just for a second, Commissioners Alonso and De
Yurre? -because Herb thinks that the formula is not as far off as otherwise
stated.
Mr. Bailey: The formula, if we go with the formula on the staff
recommendation, which is not that far away from the CD recommendation. And if
youdesireto give a million dollars to Little HUD, which is all right with
us, and if you desire to give some money for community college and if we just
go up and down the line and deduct proportionately from each one of the
allocations, you'll solve the problem. No one gets hurt that much, and
everyone ,gets a chance to participate in this y,3ar's allocation. That's all
we're saying to do.
Mayor Suarez: And throwing in the $700,000 that Commissioner De Yurre's '
proposing.that we
Mr. Bailey: And we throw in the $700,000 tha': we're holding back, we can
solve the problem and I think.
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Commissioner Alonso: Your proposal:is for -l0 p rcent cut, five percent?
Mayor Suarez: What"does'dt"work out to be, Herb?
Mr. Bailey: Well, we'll work out the numbers. All... '
Mayor Suarez: Can anybody calculate for us what the percentage is? EY
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Commissioner Alonso:: Five percent people can live with," ten it might be ;too
much.
^� Mr. Bailey-: We have some of them already calculated on the sheet that you
L have in :front. of .you -ahioh has two alternatives. One million ciQilara to
Little HUD, or either $500,000, but now we're going to throw in the $700,000.'
that we. .in old; back" which:raakes it a little easier for us, :and were: gait to
p1it that -pot with Miamif-DAde and. with ;Little HUD.
x 9ayqr,.Suarez; Yes, what the Commissioner was paying is that if.,. what „
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Commissioner Alonsot That's right.,
Mayor Suarez: You were getting ready to do it, but if you could do it ae a
percentago, maybe we could table the item and you bring it back. gut I hate
to table it.
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Mr. Bailey: All of them. We go straight on down the line. Everybody share
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improvements?
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Vice Mayor Plummer: That the board recommended. That what?
Mr. Castaneda: The final staff recommendation.
Mr. Bailey: The final staff recommendation, not CD board.
ViceMayorPlummer: This final -staff recommendation is $834,000.
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Mr. Bailey: No, no, no....
Vice Mayor Plummer: CD board recommended $1,9i9,650. That's what I have in
front of me. I'm talking about physical improvements.
Mr, Odio: No, we're talking about housing...:
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from their economic development. We're only going to do it for one year, we
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if you add the seven hundred as a percentage, how much more than one of these
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4, Mayor Suarers We're throwing seven hundred back in there.
Mr. Baileys We will figure that out.
Mayor Suarers All right.
Mr. Castaneda: One million dollars, and 14 percent cut.
Mayor Suarezt Right.
Me, Hirais Frank, on the record, please.
Mayor Suarez: But 14 percent cut, if you include all the items that are
recommended by CD board.
Mr. Castaneda: No.
Mr. Bailey: It's not. CD board. It's final staff recomend.... We would like
to forget the CD board's recommendation.
Mr.: Castaneda: You see, Mayor and Commissioners, if you start from the CD '
board recommendation, the Housing Department only has $750,000.
Mr.. Bailey: We want the final staff recommendation. We will throw the seven
hundred thousand back in, and we'll apportion among all of the line items, and
come:up.and give everyone exactly what you want.
Mayor Suarez: Yes, that's the problem. The problem is that you guys have _ z
managed to confuse all of us. And we don't understand how you end up.. when
you start with four million, you take a million c%f, and you end up with seven t
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to give us everything except what we're looking for here and I thought we had
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discussed, 4t last time. I thought there was an indication that we wonted
somewhere --between five hundred and a million dollars - a hundred thousand and
a milliondollars for HUD, and that we otherwise wanted to follow our CD board
and we're back to square zero. So, Commissioners, I don't know what to do`
here. I; would >be inclined to go with the staff recommendations, minus the
million dollars for HUD and then splitting it frith the community college so:
that we at least satisfy these major .efforts and that's;:what T. would.:be '.
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- the mill -on for, HUD, into eighty fifty each just to satisfy Co:pmi.sa Lvner
pasvSs B' rsq�test that the two be at the same level.' xhat'a - the : bosst that:; I
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Mr. Bailey: These recommendations plus...
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Mayor Suarez: OK, well let's agree on that, so that we know for sure,
Vice Mayor Plummer: You're cutting out the minority business outreach
program.
Mayor Suarez: Wait, wait a minute, J.L.
Vice Mayor Plummer: All of those are being cut cut.
Commissioner Alonso: Yes, yes, and I don't like that.
Mayor Suarez: Wait a minute, why are you sayin; no? _Is it in your column?
Commissioner De Yurre: I'm looking at this here.
Commissioner Alonso: If you go with the CD board, you have the Latin Quarter
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Commissioner De Yurre: Hey look, guys, the bottom line is we've gone down the
line, and we've been approving physical improvements, we've been approving
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that we want, we kick in a million of that amount has to go, along with the
other seven hundred thousand we're putting in eight fifty and eight fifty to
these two entities. So, take that million and just prorate it from what we've
approved already, take away a little bit from each one that has been approved
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Commissioner Alonso: No, sir, not in the staff recommendation.
Vice Mayor Plummer: They're out. On final stafc, they're out.
Commissioner Alonso: They got zero,
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Mayor Suarez: Why do ,I see it here in the third column that thn'(`nmm3aa4----
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Commissioner Alonso: They can go, think, and come back with the solution.
Mr. Bailey: Can we come back with some new calculations before the nights
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to HUD. Come back with the answer.
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Mr. Bailey: Commissioner, I can't hear you. Ccmmissioner, I didn't hear it.
Could you give me those please again? Speak on your mike.
Mayor Suarez: She said that...
Commissioner Alonso: Yes, I'm saying, we want to go by the board
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Mr. Bailey: The board's recommendation?
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Commissioner Alonso: Yes. Yes.
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Commissioner Alonso: Let them work at that. HUD, Miami -Dade, come up with a
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suggestion. Go think about that and come back. Find the money somewhere,
come back with an answer for us.
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you want us to consider would not be included. We're trying to include those
programs for which the board did not recommend that you want to have included,
along with some other calculations. If you would let us go back and work that
out. And I think if you really look at it Conunissioner if
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staff's recommendation, it does include, with the exception of Little 'HUD'and
Miami -Dade most of the thins g you want. There may be some other exceptions
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that we have not included. If you would just tell us those, we would also put
those`into'the calculations and 'come back with a figure.
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Commissioner Alonso: The New Washington Heights is not included, is it?
Mr. Bailey: It's not included, no.
Commissioner Alonso: It's not included.' The Latin Quarter is such a small
amount you can include that even if we
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You would like
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New Washington Height included irk the
calculation?
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would.
Mr. Castaneda:
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they're
in, but
not as
to the half a million dollar
request for
land acquisition
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the $50,000 soft cost for the
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Alonso:
Yes,
you are
cutting
from them five seventy:seven."
Right?
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hundred
and seventy-seven
thousand dollars.
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Mayor Suarez: Thank you. And maybe you could have it printed
for all of us, _
you kh6w, or typed or copied or handwritten or big numbers, you
know.
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Mayor Suarez, Rather than ten pieces, one.
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Vice Mayor Plummer, What are we going to do next year when we don't have a
fund of $7000000 to rob?
Mayor Suarez, These are all economic development. projects. A lot of them are
just one shot things, you know.
Commissioner Alonso: We might not have these problems.
Vice Mayor Plummer: It will be bigger.
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Mayor Suarez: Hopefully, they'll understand. They can't keep coming back £
every year, I mean.
Commissioner Alonso: Let's just take one day at a time.
Mayor Suarez: All right, the matter is tabled a., to all the relevant items on
the agenda for at least an hour.
Mr. Fernandez: Excuse me, Mr. Mayor...
Mayor Suarez: Yes?
Mr. Fernandez: Point of clarification.
Mayor Suarez: Yes.
Mr. Fernandez: Actually, the only thing you have done really
is the social
services.
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Mayor Suarez: Right.
Mr. Fernandez: Everything else is coming back tr you.
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Mayor Suarez: Why don't we do that at that point?
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this? I'll do it.
Mr. Fernandez: That you could have tabled, now go to item 34 and pass that
ordinance on first reading. So that next time you have another public
hearing, the ordinance would be passed on second and final reading...
Vice Mayor Plummer: So moved.
Mayor Suarez: I thought we'd do that
that in an hour. You want us to do
moved.
Vice Mayor Plummer: So move.
Commissioner Alonso: Yes, second.
in an hour. I don't see why we can't do
it now, we'll do it now. All right, so
Mayor Suarez: Please, I need quiet in the chambe:rsl Everybody. You can have
your discussions outside. Make sure those door:4 are closed and everybody is
cleared of the hallways. They're supposed to be heading out. They can have
celebrations, commiserations, parties, whatever, outside. All right, moved
and seconded. Any discussion?
Vice Mayor Plummer: I move item 34.
Commissioner Alonso: Yes, and I did second.
Mayor Suarez: If not, please read the ordinance.
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AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN ORDINANCE ESTABLISHING A NEW SPECIAL REVENUE FUND
ENTITLED: "COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT
(SEVENTEENTH YEAR)"; APPROPRIATING FTINDS FOR EXECUTION
OF SAME IN THE AMOUNT OF $12,613,000 FROM THE
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DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND URBAN ,DEVELOPMENT (HUD)
GRANT AWARD AND $1,400,000 FROM COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT
BLOCK GRANT PROGRAM INCOME (SEVENTEENTH FOR A'
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-TOTAL- APPROPRIATION OF $14,013,000; CONTAINING A ,
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REPEALER PROVISION AND A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE. '
Was. introduced by, Commissioner- Plummer c:nd seconded by,. Commissioner
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Alonso and;was.-passed on its first reading by title by the following vote:
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Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Miriam Alonso
Vice Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
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ABSENT: None.
The. City Attorney read the
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to the., public.
Mayor Suarez;..Any other..,. and you
heard Commis:ioner
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28. DISCUSSION CONCERNING PROPOSED ACQUISITICV OF PROPERTY WITHIN LITTLE
HAVANA COMMUNITY. DEVELOPMENT TARGET AREA AND LATIN QUARTER FOR A
PROPOSED SPECIALTY CENTER - INSTRUCT MAN0GER TO MAKE AN OFFER TO THE
OWNERS OF FORMER SHEEHAN BUICK CENTER TO PURCHASE PROPERTY (NOT TO
EXCEED $1.7 MILLION),
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Mayor Suarez: Item ten. This would be the acquisition of...
Vice Mayor Plummer: No, not ten.
Commissioner Alonso: No ten is Latin Quarter Specialty...
Vice.Mayor Plummer: Put it up on the board and :yet me look at this thing.
Mayor Suarez:, Item ten.
Vice Mayor .Plummer: Push it up a little bit, Jac►:. Can't you move the slide?
That's all right.
Mr. Jack Luft: All right. Based on the Commission direction from the meeting
of February., we were instructed to come back with our best recommendation
considering the appraisals that had been recn.;ved in the negotiations with
property owners that we had been conducting as to the best, that is the most =
cost effective assemblage of land we could provide with the money we had
F available, the 1.8 million dollars. What you have in your agenda package is a
recommendation that we acquire four parcels that: would be, if you could see
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Vice Mayor,Plummer: Matty, turn the...
Mr..tuft: Parcel K, which is a commercial - dex eloped a commercial building.
Parcel L, a commercial property, with offices and shops. Parcel A which runs
t< through. the block, four lots, which is the Methodist Church, and parcel B,.
which :is-a,six-unit apartment building. The sum total of those properties, a
the cost would be roughly the 1.7 million that wn have.
Vice Mayor Plummer: That's your recommendation.
Mr. .Luft.: That's the best we can do, given the state of the negotiations `
we've„,been. able to reach with the property owners. I have to point out that
two ,of those properties,, the_ owners continue i.s.ask for a value in excess of
the appraised value, which this Commission has aeen traditionally reluctant to
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pay over. But that's the best we could get. Wa have signed agreements from
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those four parcels to but as your agenda package reflects, there are
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lots, your recommendation.
#J Mrs .haft:. Yes. Right..
.:, Commissioner Algnsos One.million, five hundred Find forty thousand... '
f Vic$ Nayox"Plummex: What is the appraisal, tEe average appraisal, of those
sevQ,m.jots?
ifs Mp:€ts ;the appraised value on those seven lots was a million, about a" t:
mt.;J-49z . fiV!e .humdred.,thouaand dollars,
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Mr. Luft:
Almost a million seven.
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Mayor Suarez:
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per sq:aare foot basis? -if you have,
that?
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Well, the difficulty with this
is that what we're really trying to
do is buy
land for development.
Mayor Suarez:
flight.
Mr. Luft:
But we're buying, in the
case of these parcels, developed
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alread so we're ayin for it
per square foot land value about
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$32 a square foot. And that's principally because we have four developed
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parcels. We're buying some buildings that are in really good condition that
are income producing properties, three of them. And we're paying a
substantial amount of money for those improvements.
Commissioner Alonso: This is very expensive, isn't it?
Mr. Luft: Well...
Vice Mayor Plummer: What isn't?
Mr. Luft: ...yes, we paid $22 a square foot for the E1 Pub site.
Commissioner Alonso: How much?
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Mr. Luft: Twenty-two dollars a square foot, faur years ago. To buy these
four properties here, counting the improvement value, comes out to be about
$32 a square foot, for what we end up with in the way of land.
Commissioner Alonso:- That's very, very expensive.
Commissioner De Yurre: Let me ask you a question.. Do we have any contractual
arrangements as far as leases or anything of thrt nature that exists with the
properties?
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property, signed a five year lease with Burt and Pepe, a commercial store,
beginning in. February of 1991. So there's a five year lease on that
particular commercial property. There is a lease that will expire this year,
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Commissioner De Yurre: So, explain this to me so I can understand where
you're coming -from. Are you trying to tell us then that we are to sit back
and buy this -land now, and sit on it for the next five years until Burt & Pepe
lease runs out?
Mr. Luf t , No..
Commissioner De Yurre: OK, what are you saying?
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Mr. Luft: What we're saying is that we buy the property now. Could I get
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this back on again? We buy the property now, and we attempt to put together a
ra evelopment, deal, a so called modified version of the Latin Quarter
Specialty' Center, as soon as we can. We ;ollect the rents from those
properties for the, - period of time up until its necessary to demolish the
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structures, and then it will be necessary to purchase the remainder of the
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Nov much would that lease cost
fir,uts Well their lease; ip producing abcGt $35,000 a year in rental
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for that amount of money..:
Mr, tuft! NO# no.
Vice Mayor Plummert :..because you can't condemn it.
Mr. Luftt No, we would have to negotiate a...
Vice Mayor Plummer: You're at their mercy.
Mr. Luftt Yes,
Commissioner De Yurre: If they say no, we got to wait five years.
Mr. Odiot Then you have to wait until the lease expires.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Yes.
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Mr. Luft: You're right.
Vice Mayor Plummert And that's right in the middle.
Commissioner De Yurre: And I can't see you coming to us and proposing to wait
five years for this to happen.`
Mr. Luft: Well, I'm pointing out to you the difficulty we have here in that
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these are the only properties we were able to get at or close to appraised
value.
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Commissioner De Yurre: Let me tell you somethi,ig because it kind of bothers
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me, thatthese people... didn't you tell me tha: we had a contract with them
and you had checked the lease...
Mr. Luft: Yes.
Commissioner De Yurre: ...and that the only thing that existed contractually
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Commissioner De Yurre: With the new lease.'-
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Mr.. Luft: With the new lease.
Commissioner De:Yurre:. of course, what did the owner think? -that we're
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Mr,.T Luft:. Well,`we asked them that, and we did r.ot get an answer.
Commissioner De:Yurre: Obviously not.<'
Commissioner Aionso: They just signed this new lease, didn't they? -in
January?
Mr.Lufts Yes, in February.
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Commissioner Alonap: February, that's incredible.
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ComMiasioner �Ae �� Y+artc�e: � They knew ex otly what wF s happening,
That'a right. That was just : two weeks before the. Commi+aa
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Mayor Suarez: Does the Commission know, does everybody know, has everybody
been made aware by the administration, and, of .:ourse, it's not exactly this r'
area, that an offer has been made for substantial property over by 23rd Avenue
and S.W. $th Street at $16 a square foot?
Mr. Odio: That's the Sheehan property.
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Mayor Suarez: In writing. In writing.
Mr. Odio: It was done in writing...
Mayor Suarez: .lust so you know.
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Mr. Odio: ...and it's $16 a square foot. I told them...
Mayor Suarez: I'm not saying that you move thn entire specialty center over i
there. I'm just saying that that is an indication of property values in the i—
area as represented by one specific written offer to us. And it's enough
land... ? 1
Mr. Luft: Four point three.
Mayor Suarez: It's much more land than this, I telieve.
Commissioner De Yurre: How much? How much is that total piece of property
going for over there?
Commissioner Alonso: Well, it's three acres, right?
Mayor Suarez: Well, I think he would sell as mut:h as we're willing to buy it,
$16 a square foot. I guess we should have asked that, but...
Mr. Odio: In Sheehan it's 4.3 acres at $16. -
Commissioner De Yurre: How much is that?
Mr. Luft: Four point three acres at,$16_is 2.9 million dollars.
Mayor.Suarez: But .would they sell so much as what we need, and not the...
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3`... of it. They will break it up. We may be able to do better than $16 a square
Commissioner Alonso: Yes, but...
Vice Mayor Plummer: By the way, may I inquire teal quick like? Where does
the Latin Quarter stop going northbound on 12th Avenue?
Mayor Suarezt First,..
Vice Mayor Plummer: I thought it was N.W. let Street.
Mayor Suarez: First Street or First Street.
Mr, Luft: N.W. lot Street. Both sides of Flagl�ir.
Vice Mayor Plummer: I would ask somebody to go to the corner of 2nd Street
and see a brand new solid concrete wall that says, Welcome to the Latin
Quarter by Sun Bank.
Commissioner Alonso: That's true,
Mr. Rojas: Yes, Commissioner, the reason was because we don't have no
space...
Commissioner Alonso: So that's why I thought it was Second.
Mayor Suarez: Oh no, no, no, no... We're not going to get into
this. If Sun -
Bank wants to put a sign saying Welcome to Frc-t.ch Quarter there
for all we
care, that's fine, you know. It's their land.
Mr. Rojas: OK. It's 1st Street.
Commissioner Alonso: It's very nice.
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Mayor Suarez: Yes, it's a nice sign. No problem with the
sign, please.
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Vice Mayor 'Plummer: They've included themselves,
Commissioner Alonso: That's right.
Mayor Suarez:" French Quarter, Latin Quarter, Little Havana....
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Mr.-Adior. -Mr. Mayor, that the basic decision to make then is what do we do?
Do we buy this and sit on it, and don't do an,,zhing. Or do
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the money for
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Vice Mayor Plummer: Do we already own what's in green?
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Commissioner Alonso: We can do a mini -specialty center right there. We have
enough space, and it's a very attractive location. We can develop that one
plus whatever other location that we would like to develop, both.
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Mr. Odio: No, but we certainly could do something on the green like Baltimore
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did with the municipal market type things.
Commissioner Alonso: I'm certain we can do something very nice in the green.
Mr. Odio: And try to do something else up there. The area Casablanca also
needs... and whatever happened...
Mayor Suarez: We also could... As Vice Mayor Pli.mmer said, we could also sell
it, I mean, just so we know what... What would we: get for it?
Mr. Luft: I have to point out to you thkt; it's owned by the Parking
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Commissioner Alonso: Well, sell it if we know that they are going to develop
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right away. If not, we don't want any more of a vacant piece of land in the
middle of the Latin Quarter. It doesn't make any sense.
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Mayor Suarez: That's right. And DOSP (Department of Off -Street Parking) owns
it, by the way, folks, so we ought to know that, the green areas. Presumably,
DOSP thinks that if a project is built there of sufficient size, the parking
component would be built by DOSP and would be profitable enough to finance
itself, right?
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the green and then go get another site?
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Mr. Odio: Well, the green is already there.:
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necessary to build the garage for another site with DOSP, and then do this
one.
Mr. Odiot And if we... We have a million seven. I would simply make an offer
for the 4.3 acres for a million seven. That's what we got here is, and see if
we could buy...
Mayor Suarez: possibility for the... You mean the Sheehan Buick site?
Mr. Odiot Yes, I see it here. We got a million seven. We don't have any
other... Take it or leave it.
Mayor Suarez: That would create...
Commissioner Alonso: The one point seven that we have is without the
$500,000?
Mr. Odiot No, the $500,000 is not included.
Commissioner Alonso: What?
Mr. Odio: The $500,000 is not included after we...
Mayor Suarez: Well, that's what I want to ask.
know, some major project, something that would a
help to revitalize the area. Whereas west of
stable. Is that still a valid premise or as Conn
about the same....
Commissioner Alonso: It's about the same. It's
Mayor Suarez: ,..because two years ago, w
complaints of the area between 17th and 22nd, anc
people that were sort of, you know, dealing t
homeless, people that are hanging around the
viable residence, means of support and the area
of what we're talking about, so would it make ser
commentary here, to focus on areas farther we:
feasible east of 17th Avenue, in case we can acgt
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that from the real estate market standpoint, the feasibility of building a so
called specialty center to the westerly portion, is probably better than it is
further east. Generally, I would say investors) feel more comfortable with an
upscale project closer to 27th Avenue than say :loser to 12th.
Mayor Suarez: Yes, and if you go far away enough, you know, you're in a place
where they'd love it, you know...
Mr. Luft: You're in Coral Gables. Yes, so it's a bit of a contradiction.
Mayor Suarez: ...and if you go even farther than that, you're on top of the
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Mr. Luft: I'm just saying it's... you can call it any way you want to.
Mayor Suarezi Yes, the function of government is also to go into areas that
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Mr. Luft: We could do between ninety and a hundred thousand square feet of
development on that site.
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Vice Mayor Plummert' But don't you have to put the parking on there somewhere?
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zoning principally because of the difficulty of putting parking on any given
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marvelous job over the area. The problem is, people want to make so much
money that they make it very difficult for the area, and that's unfair. Very _
unfair. So what we have to tell them, we're not going to buy your property.
We don't want to buy the properties at those prices. We cannot really throw
away the money of the taxpayers. Therefore, we're turning our backs to their
and say, no, come back to terms or we're not talking. We are moving somewhere
else.
Vice Mayor Plummer: We told them that twice.
Commissioner Alonso: Yes, but they still think that we're going to pay those r`
prices. And that is unfair. They will never sell the properties at those
prices.
Mayor Suarez: And with Perez-Sosa, by the way, oe could begin...
Commissioner Alonso: And I know the prices which they bought the properties,
by the way, and it seems to me that the prices now are so high they don't make
any sense.
Mayor Suarez: And with Perez-Sosa we could filb condemnation proceedings too. `
Commissioner Alonso: Ah, Perez-Sosa. And by the way,_ what they have there, I ;
tell you, they leave a lot to be desired. i
Vice Mayor Plummer Are you saying then that we build a mini -center on the ;
green and that we look at other property for the specialty center?
Commissioner Alonso: Maybe so.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Is that what you're saying?
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Mr. Luft: I think what we recognized at the last meeting is that, in any t
event what we're dealing with at this location, given the costs we have here,
is a much smaller site than we need to build n true specialty center. The
feasibility study.of the specialty center said, unless you can achieve 120,000
square feet of development, plus other attractions and theaters to create a ,
Yt' regional destination attraction, you do not have a specialty center. You have
an interesting shopping plaza, but really it's not going to work in the way
'> that you want it to work. So we're talking about a different animal here,
whatever we do at this location. Even if we buy some additional lots. We
Just don't have enough money -to to buy enough land to make it work. You're going
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to_need, in:`effect, the equivalent of an entire City block, and maybe a little
bit more to do a true specialty center with enough retail, ..enough `<
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Vice Mayor Plummer: So where are we? As I see it, what we're talking about
' if I;.understand Miriam, is that all of the green we would now consider that to
2 be, for a mini -center, and we would then take the remaining funds of a million
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eight, 'million seven, and go.4own and purchase, hopefully, the Buick. Is that
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Mr. Fernandez: Well, just a point of clarification. Keep in mind that what
green belongs to DOSP, and DOSP may not be pilling to build or to be... to
land 'the "land for -a -smaller shopping center.
Commissioner Alonso: Let him talk.
Mr, Jack Mulve►na: Actually, Jack is right. Every opinion we received said,
you 4on't•.need;another,.smaller enterprise out there.
Commissioner Alonso: We:don't have: anything net; in Little Havana, I want you $ -
to know. We don't have.,. they say, we don't need - yes, we do. Because when
tou .waat'.•to. bray," you don't find new .shops in, the area. You don't have places
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because we can make it, I will go for
Mr. Mulvena: Yes, we had already had conversations with Jack and the board
and the staff all along have said, you know, if you were going to go for a
specialty center somewhere else. See, we could swap the land with somebody
and take the value we get from the swap, join your projects somewhere, and
provide the parking. Because that's basically what we do. We're the tail of F
the dog. This becomes so small, frankly, you begin to diminish our role in it +
because we're not exclusively in the theater business, although we manage one.
Yes, so all along, you know, if you wanted to build something, I'm sure we
could swap and take the value we would get from it, and then actually be able
to buy more property down at the other area.
Mr. Fernandez: In other words, Commissioner Alonso, being the attorney also
for the DOSP board, and understanding what Mr. Mulvena has said, they would
much rather take the money out of the green lot here, and then carry it along
to another site, and then continue the investment with the City. Rather than
having this lot built on.
Commissioner Alonso: And this is an attractive possibility, yes. Why not?
Mayor Suarez: All right, the item before us ii: to actually acquire certain
lots. I haven't heard any commentary favorable to it...
Commissioner Alonso: The people of the Latin Quarter, I don't think they are
in agreement.
Mr. Rojas: Making me sick.
Mr. Odio: Why don't I withdraw this item then?
Commissioner Alonso: Let them talk.
Mr. Odio: I withdraw.
Mayor Suarez: And if you want to comment on that, what I can tell you is that
what we're thinking about right now is not approving item ten. If you want to
address that.
Mr. Rojas: Yes,- Mr. Mayor, please. If you give me a couple of minutes, I
''. could give you an explanation. Why we no open the doors and try to work it
out something with Toledo maybe? All I have... if they're willing to do they
are ;right here. And they open the door, let him talking about, if they
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.;: proposition. I don't want to mention, but we're going for.
€' Mayor Suarez: Well, we're...
' Mr. Rojas: There they are.
Mayor Suarez: There's a character in some Charles Dickens novel that says,
you know, telher-I'm waiting. You know, :if...
Commissioner Alonso: Yes.
Mr; Odio: Wet , why -don't I do this. I would like to withdraw item ten if...
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Mr. Luftt It's in the mid thirties, yes.
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a foot, which is less than the appraised value of the property directly across'
the street. in addition to that, we will,.. I think that comes out to about a
million seven something. It's basically the ctih that you have. So that you
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McDonalds, all that property in the back for the money that you have. The
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Mr. Weiss: We would sell the property to you for the cash that you have,
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r' Mayor Suarez: One point seven million dollars.
Mr., Weiss: Whatever the cash that you have is. I think on the agenda is one
{:; point eight, and that's obviously a hundred thojeand dollars difference.
Commissioner Alonso: And that includes what?
Mr. Fernandez: The stripe, the blue stripes.
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Mr. Luft: That's the McDonalds parking lot, and the Tower Theater.
Mr. Weiss:- Commissioner Alonsoy that would include the Tower Theater, and
give you the ability to build the specialty center that was envisioned by the
Department: of :Off.. -Street. Parking. It would. -give you three corners in that
area. It would give. you, the. green, it would give you the Domino Park, it
y would give you the theater. It would allow you to close off 15th Street...
Mayor Suarez: Fifteenth Avenue.
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Mr. Weiss: They would all be able to be developed as part of the specialty
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Mr. Weiss: Commissioner, trust me on this. It's our property. We've gone
over it, They're all able to be developed as a specialty center.
Commissioner Alonso: I know, but that was wrong.
Mr. Weiss: Yes, but that's...
Vice Mayor Plummer: What you're saying is, Richard, when we upgraded the
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Mr. Weiss: Not with us, sir. That was a...
Vice Mayor'Plummer: No, I understand. We cut our own throats.
Mr. Weiss: > Commissioner, honestly, I really think that for the City to be
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able to do this project for the money that ;►ou have, for less than the
praised value across the- street, to control those three corners and to have
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community wants - I mean is a very fair arrangement. My clients have come
down very significantly. I tell you that I spoke with them seriously about
this, and.if the Commission doesn't want to buy it, you: know, I'm not;going`to
yell and .scream here. But I really do think that we've tried to do is
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of the days the problem with the appraisers . made, the different appraisals,
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best that we can do. We'll loan you the... with respect to Perez-Sosa,
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Mr. Weiss: It was just an offer.
Mayor Suarez= ...we may need it at some point if tax revenues are real low
for other purposes. But not for buying property. Hopefully, the bank is
still open. Mr. Toledo looks like he's ready to lend us money, but that's not
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what we typically are doing here in Little Havana. So, thank you...
Vice Mayor Plummer: I would like, Mr. Mayor,..
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Vice Mayor Plummer: I'd like to hear what their...
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Vice Mayor Plummer: ...other alternate program is.
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Mr. Rojas: Ah. What I can tell you, we car: use the 15th Avenue if we're
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going along for the property. That's somethiAg we have to concern. We got
the 15th Avenue.
Vice Mayor Plummer: What about 15th Avenue?
Mr. Rojas: We can use the 15th Avenue to the...
Vice Mayor Plummer: You said you had an alternate platy.
Mayor Suarez: Jack, is there any way...
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Mayor Suarez: Wait, wait, Elio, because... Is tl.ere any way...
L Commissioner Alonso: He's.talking about the other the south, the north...
Mayor., Suarez: ..-.that since you spent time with this alternate idea to
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Vice Mayor Plummer: They had one. I'm asking what is their alternative.
Mayor -Suarez: Well,.but they're not communicating here.
Mr, Rojas:. No, I'm sorry, Mr. Commissioner, ve cannot communicate it. now.
` We'll get it.. ° you will get it in writing, we write it to you. We sending
you a' proposal and everything.
Mr. Victor Pinzon: Commissioner, publicly...
Mayor Suarez: Put your on the record.
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Mr. Pinzon: Victor Pinzon, Latin Quarter, exect.t.ive director. I think if we
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offer this;:additional:.site-that we,have been con:;idering publicly here, what's
going to happen is what happened with the properties that Jack has been trying`
srr to. acquire for, -.the City..:. The owners of the property, they are going to
increase the values. Now...
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happened.
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time ago, and they've been jacking up the price and that's why we can't bud►
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Mayor Suarez! OK, Victor, thank you.
Mr. Odio: He's telling me that Perez-Sosa sold a week ago.
Mayor Suarez: All right, well, what do we know EAbout that?
Commissioner Alonso: He did?
Vice Mayor Plummer: What is Perez....?
Mayor Suarez: Anyhow, if we find out...
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Commissioner Alonso: Well, we call the store.
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that Perez-Sosa, which is not an item before us, has been sold. We don't know
for how much. We don't know what relevancy it has, but Mr. Manager, what's
the relevancy? Wait, wait, Tony.
Mr. Odio: That makes it even more difficult to put this whole deal together
in that site.
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Mayor 'Suarez: Suppose it was sold yesterday for ten dollars?
Commissioner Alonso: Maybe it was sold to them.
Vice Mayor Plummer: So what? What difference does that make? The new owner
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Mayor Suarez: If it was; sold yesterday for ten dollars, you know that they're
desperate to sell for fifteen and
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relevancy is of Perez-Sosa being sold yesterday. Even assuming that that's
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Because we have been talking here -about buying out Perez-Sosa and->
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Mayor Suarez: No, not today. No, you must not have heard me when... I was
Back. here whon he started talking about buying out Perez-Sosa, and I said,
wait a minute, we don't have money to buy you out, how can we buy out Perez.
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Vice Mayor Plummer: You get that parcel, you @t gold.
Mayor Suarez: But you don't want to do it publLcly, so do it privately. No,
we're not making a motion on any of it. The only thing we're doing is we're
not buying the north lots because they're way too expensive.
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Mayor Suarez: And we're giving them a pretty g3od idea today that we're not
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Mr. 'Rojas: , Sure, and I agree with that.
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Mr. Rojas: "Pero," also I have the opportunity r o do what we talking about.
Mayor Suarez: Yes, of course, yes.
Mr. Rojas: OK.
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Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Miriam Alonso
Vice Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
rMayor Xavier L. Suarez
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ABSENT: None.
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Mayor Suarez. Go find good alternatives for us. Just don't tell anybody
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29. (Continued Discussion) DEFER PROPOSED RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING EXECUTION
OF AGREEMENT WITH CODEC, INC., CONCERNING .DEVELOPMENT OF TOWNHOME
PROJECT (150 UNITS) ON MELROSE NURSERY SITE (AFFORDABLE HOUSING) - -
INSTRUCT CITYATTORNEYTO BEGIN PROCEDURE 'TOWARD POSSIBLE CLOSING IN 30
DAYS - INSTRUCT CODEC NOT TO EXPEND FURTHER FUNDS IN TITLE WORK RELATED
TO CLOSING (Deferred to April 25th) (See label 23).
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Mayor Suarez: Item 11.
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Mr.Odio: This is to execute a purchase and sale agreement with CODEC in
connectionwith the development of one hundred and fifty townhomes. The
{: project planned on the publicly owned eight and -a -half acres of Melrose r
Nursery Site.
Mayor Suarez: Is there any...?
Mr. Odio.: And it's reaffirming also, that they will have to refund seven
hundred and fifty thousand dollars ($750,000) to the City. as part of this
development:
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Mayor -Suarez: Commissioner De Yurre.
Commissioner De Yurre: This morning, I asked to table this item so that I can
get'some 'input to deal with the issues at hand that were concerning me. I was
not`• approached with the by the group to deal with the issues. I would ;ask
`. 'at this time that this item be deferred until the next meeting.: Hopefully,
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x. answered, and will be able to deal with it at that time. So I move to defer.
Mayor Suarers.. So moved.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Well let _me ask a question. For discussion, I'll second
s the, -motion. I•• - asked 'themi about that,. and they said that .they will lose out
4k com letely, their totalproject-. Now, I've got to: ask on the reaord,,.we hags
x played with this, and other parcels.for God kno.s how long. I sure don't want y
to deny, my, colleague the night; to get.informatkon he needs for a;vote, but if y
this is a viable proposition, and in fact, they are going... you're telling me
that you will lose it if you have to wait until the next meeting?
Mr. Armando Cazo: Commissioner Plummer, we have...
, ' Mayor Suarez: A name and address, please Armando. s` t:
Cazo:, My name' is Armando Cawo. My office it, 3501 SW 8th` Street. We have t l'
`a 30tnmitmeA from '+surtax which'has ,been accumulated in, the -..last- two veers- for
e i�a`j it sine million dollars that' is due May 15th. if cc at does
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Vice Mayor Plummer: And are you saying to me that the delay of thirty days.
They wouldn't give you a delay of thirty days to start construction?
Commissioner be Yurre: All I need.is until the 25th, so it's only like a two
week delay.
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What I am saying is, are you telling me that they would not give you an
extension of whatever the next Commission meeting date is. The 25th?
Mayor Suarez: You're saying the 16th of April, or the 16th of May?
Mr. Cazo: The 16th of May.
Commissioner De Yurre: You've got plenty of time.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Ohl Well wait a minute then, if we defer it today,
that's not beyond your deadline? You said to me, if we don't make a decision
today - and you're saying, your deadline is May 16th?
Mr. Cazo: We must start construction.
Vice Mayor Plummer: I understand that.
Mr. Cazo: Right. But there has to be a closing with the bank in order for us
to be able to you know the financing of the construction which is seven point
million eight dollars [sic) worth of construction loan. And if those things
do not take place, and... we wouldn't be able to be ready for start of
construction. And where you actually... it'se authorizing the Manager to
execute the contract. One...
Vice Mayor Plummer: All you've got to do... if I am not mistaken, all you
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have to do is draw a permit. Is that correct? - to be in compliance.
Mr. Cazo: We have to do... first of all, we have to close the agreement with
the.City, with the Manager. And once that is executed, then we have to go to
the--bank,'prepare the closingdocuments and be able to close. That whole
process might take forty-five days, or sixty dayo.
vt Commissioner.De Yurre: Then you're out - already.
Commissioner Alonso: What was the reason than Commissioner De Yurre said
that...?
�- Commissioner De Yurre: I have questions about the economic viability of the
.-. project as,far as 'the construction cost, and exactly whether it's workable.
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now, we. have to make sure that it runs well, and nave to be satisfied.
Vice Mayor -Plummer:' Forty-five days, you are al:•eady dead.
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Vice Mayor Plummer: According to your statement just now, if it takes you
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Mr. Cato Weil, within that time...
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Mayor Suarez; How many presalea do you have? Don't you have a bunch of
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Mr. Cazot but of fifty units for the first phase.
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Mayor Suarez: Typically?
Mr. Cazo: Typically, for fifty percent sold, yes - for first phase.
Commissioner Alonso: May we hear some comments from the... Mr. Hepburn about
the concern that the Commissioner has?
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of the financing in fact, has been lined up. They are correct. Their
commitment from surtax expires I think, May 31st, and that's a real critical
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Vice Mayor Plummer: Well now, wait a minute. He is saying the 16th, you are
saying, the 3lst, what is the actual date?
Mr. Cazo: The 16th. According to what we have, it's the 16th of May.
Mr. Hepburn: Is it May 16th?
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Commissioner Alonso: So actually, if we defer this item today, we are going
to.run.the risk of losing a good project for the City? I thinkthis is a very
dangerous situation, and perhaps, the -City Manager should address this to
maybe answer some of the concerns that Commissioner De Yurre has, and we can
resolve.. it today, for the sake of keeping a -good project that has been going
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Commissioner De Yurre: The issue is, that the concerns that I have are not
going to be resolved at this point in time.
Commissioner Alonso: I beg you pardon?
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fifteen, twenty minutes here in a -_hurried fashion. You know, either my
colleagues acquiesce in giving me the deferral, or we put it to a vote, and
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that's .the end .of that. Butyouknow,'for;me to vote.for.this project, I have
to make sure that the numbers that they are working -with are numbers that I
think 'are viable. And that's all there is to il.
Mr. Mariano Cruz: Xavier, can I say something regarding here? I was here
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three years ago regarding-this::problem.
Mayor Suarez: Mariano, somehow we have heard from you on almost every issue,
They"have.no idea.
Mr; Cruz This:ioi in the Allapattah target area, and being a problem. there
with the community.. gapeGially: when the place is,,.. now, , that the place to
secured, we have; to ,have "the place; -fenced and cleaned, because the place had
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metamorphosis of this project too.
somehow didn't get it off the ground,
and this one is probably the third
I forget how many time we tried it, and
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Mr, Cruz: Right. The plumbers union, the )ther people, I don't know,
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whatever, so many people tried. And now, they've: got the finance.
Commissioner Alonso: Yes. May I hear from the administration? I'd like to
hear their answer. If we defer this item today, and you tell me that you are
satisfied... and I would like the City Manager to get off the phone, so he can
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respond to this question as well. If we defer this item today, we in fact,
have a possibility of losing this project in which they have been working for
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such a long time. What is the recommendation of the City Manager? Do you
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feel that this project has the back to support the project? Do you have any
fears that they don't have,..? That some of the items are not clear? What is
your recommendation? Because I understand that when you put something in the
agenda, you should be satisfied with it.
Mr. Odio: I don't know. I am not privy to the concerns that Commissioner De
Yurre has. I asked Jeff Hepburn, who deals with this project, and he feels
that... satisfied with it. But I do not know what he is concerned about.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Well, let me ask a question. My concern, if I understand
his concern, What happens if in fact, due to the financial conditions
existing today, which are a lot different than :hey were a year ago, if this
project goes under, where is the City?
Mr. Hepburn: Well currently you know, we own the land. At some point, the
land would be transferred to CODEC for construction.
Vice Mayor Plummer: OK. But I am saying, what is the City's position of
recovering the seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars ($750,000) if this
thing goes belly -up?
Mr. Hepburn: There is a time frame which they have to complete construction.
If they do not do so, then the land reverts back to the City.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Where is our position, assuming they build?
Mr. Hepburn: We would own the site and the improvements - whatever
improvement are there.
Vice Mayor Plummer: The improvements would be ours? -
Mr. Hepburn: Exactly.
Mr. Odio: Let's suppose that they build...
'ice Mayor Plummer: But then, we've got to pay off the loan?
Mr. Hepburn: Initially, there will be surtax money used to start
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something, won't they?
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owner, of the property? If they are given a millionnine, our value of the
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Commissioner De Yurre ... and they stop halfwa., through, that land is worth
less without that half of a partial improvement than you know, without
anything on it.
Vice Mayor Plummer: What is the total project cost?
Mr. Canoe Seven million dollars ($7,000,000),
Vice'Mayor Plummer: Excluding the seven fifty, or...?
Mr. Cazo: Including the seven fifty.
Mayor Suarezi They're going to add substan`ial value here, I mean. We
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itself which would be done first, is almost a million five. Therefore, you
would have an improved property which is worth on - according to the
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Mayor Suarez: You mean infrastructure versus - .ls that what you mean?
Vice Mayor:Plummer: Next question.Do you*have,A commitment for a bank?
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Vice Mayor Plummer:' For the six and -a -half million dollars?
Mr.'Cazo : The d fference'between the surtax, and the seven point five;
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Vice Mayor Plummer: May I see the letter of commitment please? That's a
draft; I want to see a letter. A draft doesn't mean anything. A draft meansE
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Mayor Suarez; Is that how far you've gotten, or...? They are working on. it,
The la +vyers are -working on' it.
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V#ee =may, o " 1,14 mari So at , this time, you don't have a commitment?
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transferred in order to get going with the banks. Everything is approved.
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Vice Mayor Plummer: At what interest?
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Mr. Delgado: I don't have the particulars hers.-. One over prime, I think it
is.
Vice Mayor Plummer: How much?
Mr. Delgado: One over prime.
Commissioner Alonso: One with prime.
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Mr. Delgado: Surtax is three percent.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Well, surtax is a million nine?
Mr. Delgado: It's what?
Vice Mayor Plummer: Did you say a million nine Was surtax?
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Mr. Delgado: One point nine million dollars from surtax at three percent`.
Commissioner De Yurre: Are there any addit onal monies that the City is
putting.; -into this project?
Mr. _ Hepburn We; are ,also; plugging in a million four that will be used for
construction. It will be a loan to CODEC.
Commissioner De Yurre: A million four for what?
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You're not going to lose the land. We are improving the land, and that's
covered under the bond - improvements to the land also,
Vice Mayor Plummer: You put up a performance bond, what the hell do you need
the mortgage for?'
Mayor Suarez: No, a performance bond is quite different, All right, anyhow,
we have a motion to defer, you had seconded it for discussion, any other
discussion on the motion to defer?
Commissioner De Yurre: A deferral would be to tie 25th only.
Mayor Suarez: Or continuance I guess, will be more proper.
Mr. Delgado: If we keep delaying this project, it's going to end up like...
Mayor Suarez: No, I meant from the Commissioners, at this point. Unless they
have any more question. If not...
Vice Mayor Plummer: I've got a problem here, I really do. You know, I have
always afforded my colleagues the right to have information to vote in the
proper way, and I hate to vote against that, because some day, I might ask it.
How long will it take you to close with the City?
Mr.,Hepburn: On the City land?
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Vice Mayor Plummer: Yes.
Mr. Hepburn: Probably thirty days.
Vice Mayor Plummer: If it takes you to close, and they can't do anything
until they have the closing with the City, can we instruct you to proceed with
the closing with the final agreement in the next Commission meeting?
Mr. Hepburn:. The City and the County?
Vice Mayor Plummer: Yes. But what I am saying is, I want to try to afford my
colleague.the'right to get.the information he wants. Can we instruct you to
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proceed with the closing, with the final decision being made at the next
Commission meeting?. OK. I'm not trying to ask you to step out of line, I:am
trying to accommodate my colleague.
Commissioner Alonso: Can we do that?
Vice Mayor Plummer: Start to ,proceed to close. He is saying, it takes thirty
days. ,,.Yes, but Cesar, heistalking about, it'sgoing to take at least thirty
for that closing.- OK. I am not a closing atto,ney. These guys are. If in
fact, we tell you to proceed with a closing, and Victor comes up with
something; that - says that this is a bad deal for the City, don't we have the
right to stop the closing?;
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Vice, -Mayor, Plummeri OK. How much?
- Ms. Kearson A. couple thousand dollars, I; would imagine - three, four
3ry thousand.
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Vice Mayor Plummer: OK. But if Victor... a couple of thousand she is saying.
What I am saying to you, if it takes thirty days to close, that's your... you
h aOFs. a .upon, • ever ►body agrees upon that. ; . Petween .now and:. the next Commission
Meeting, It Victor comes up with something that he feels that we should know
a shot::,r numbers that we should know about, that tell us that thin is not a
fi nesi ndea7 , •+can't we step: the closing?
iCearsQns Sure. $ut you world have to pay for it. You have the costs,
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Ms. kearson: Yes.
Mr. Delgado: Mr. Plummer, can I say something?
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Vies Mayor Plumer: Sure.
Mr. Delgado. We have to spend more...
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Mayor Suarez: Wait, wait, wait. If you want, because otherwise, we are just
at the Commission level here discussing it.
Mr. Delgado: I just want to make...
Mayor Suarez: All right, at the Commissioner's... Vice Mayor's request, go
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Mr. Delgado: I just want to make something clear here.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Talk a little louder.
Commissioner Alonso: Louder.
Mr. Delgado: Yes. We have spent more than a hundred thousand dollars already.
in plans. The architect through engineer plans have everything, it's
complete.
Vice Mayor Plummer: But if we told you, no, today, you are out that money?
Mr. Delgado: Yes, sir, again.
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Mr.' Delgado: No.
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Vice Mayor Plummer: All I am saying is, that I want to accommodate my
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{'} draws a picture for this Commission that we feel we should reconsider and not
proceed; we can,say to the City Attorney, stop. OK?
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Vice Mayor Plummer:''Now: I sm told, that's what we can -do, legally. And the
�i only -thing we are going to do is -incur a couple thousand -dollars, <that we`
would, Dave- tol bite' the.: bullet: on, rather than bite the bullet, if he gives uW1
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Vic: Mayor' Flummery The best ' of both worlds.
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Commissioner Alonaot Two weeks from now.
Vice Mayor Plummart I think you are ahead of tivq game.
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Vice Mayor Plummert I mean, I realize that you would rather have an absolute
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Ms. Kearson: But if they do that, and they incur some cost, it should not be
against the City of Miami. We will pay for whatever costs are incurred
relative to the closing, the title work. But if they incur cost, they should
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Mr. Fernandez: If it doesn't pass.
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Ms. Kearson: If it doesn't pass.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Well, they should be forewarned not to... you're not
going to incur cost until the time of the closing. They have already
incurred planning and architectural, and if we told them, no, today, they are
out that money.
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Vice Mayor Plummer: OK. So I think that... you want a motion?
Mayor Suarez: We have a motion to continue. You've seconded it. If you want
to withdraw your second', it might die, for the lack of a second. You can
frame ,it another way if you want. Or else, you can second it with a
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Vice Mayor Plummer: Well, I would move that we - and as a amendment, that we
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The following motion was introduced by Commissioner De Yurre, who moored
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MOTION NO, 91-280
A MOTION DEFERRING TO THE APRIL 25, 1991 MEETING, ITEM
11 (PROPOSED RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING EXECUTION OF
PURCHASE AND SALE AGREEMENT WITH CODEC INC. CONCERNING
DEVELOPMENT OF HOUSING PROJECT [150 TOWNHOMES] PLANNED
ON PUBLICLY OWNED MELROSE NURSERY SITE; AUTHORIZING
CITY CONVEYANCE OF ONE PARCEL OF VACANT LAND TO CODEC
INC., CODEC TO REIMBURSE THE CITY FOR $750,000 IN
CONNECTION WITH SAID PROJECT) FOR FURTHER INFORMATION
CONCERNING FEASIBILITY OF SAID PROJECT; FURTHER
DIRECTING THE ADMINISTRATION TO PFOCEED WITH STEPS
TOWARD POSSIBLE CLOSING IN 30 DAYS PENDING ONLY FINAL
CONSIDERATION BY THE CITY COMMISSION; AND FURTHER
INSTRUCTING CODEC NOT TO EXPEND ANY FURTHER MONIES IN
TITLE WORK RELATED TO THE CLOSING.
Upon being seconded by Vice Mayor Plumme-, the motion was passed and
adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Victor De Yurre
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Miriam Alonso
Vice Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
NOES: Mayor Xavier L. Suarez.
ABSENT: None.
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Commissioner Alonso: I think we have very little choice, so I vote yes.
Mayor Suarez: I can't vote for that.
COMMENTS MADE AFTER ROLL CALL:
Commissioner Dawkins: Mr. Manager, who paid for the fence?
a Mayor Suarez: No, I vote no.
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y' Commissioner Dawkins: Oh! You voted, didn't you?
Mayor Suarez: - Yes.
Commissioner Dawkins: Who paid for the fence, and the clearing up of that
lot?
Mr. Hepburn: The City paid for the...
_Mr. Odio: :We did.
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Commissioner Dawkins: All right then - well, you guys came in my office, and
µ; told me you did it.
Mr. Odio: No, he didn't.
Mr. Hepburn: The City paid for cleaning the site, but they paid for the
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{otamiaaioner Dawkins: I found that out since they left my office.
Mr, Odio: OK,
Comm iesioner Aawkinst But I have to tell them, that they did not in good
with -tell me the truth. They told me that they cleaned the lob and ► put up
00 fences
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30. RATIFY MANAGER'S FINDING OF NEED FOR ADDITIONAL PURCHASE OF 26 CHEVROLET
CAPRICE PURSUIT VEHICLES FROM MAROONE CHEVROLET. [R.K.W.: POLICE CARS)
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Mayor Suarez: Item 13. Ratifying 4/5ths action. The City Manager find...
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Mr. Odio: Mr. Mayor, this is the last twenty-six cars that we needed to
complete the -- complete replacement.
Mayor Suarez: OK. I'll entertain a motion on this.
Vice Mayor Plummer: What item?
Mayor Suarez: Thirteen.
Mr. Odio: That's the last of the police cars.
Mayor Suarez: Good luck number.
Mr. Odio: Commissioner, twenty-six patrol cars.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Move it.
Mayor Suarez: Moved. Do we have a second? Do we have a minute?
Commissioner Dawkins: Second.
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Mayor Suarez: Thank you. Any discussion? If not, please call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Vice Mayor Plummer, who moved
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RESOLUTION NO. 91-281
A RESOLUTION RATIFYING, APPROVING AND CONFIRMING, BY A
4/5THS<AFFIRMATIVE -"VOTE, OF THEMEMBERSOF THE CITY
COMMISSION, ACTIONS OF THE CITY MANAGER IN FINDING THE
NEED: FOR THE ADDITIONAL PURCHASE OF TWENTY-SIX (26)
r' CHEVROLET CAPRICE PURSUIT VEHICLES UNDER BID NO. 90-
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-` 91-014 FROM MAROONE CHEVROLET, HOLLYWOOD, FLORIDA FOR
`.` ..THE DEPARTMENT OF GENERAL SERVICES ADMINISTRATION
SERVICES/SOLID WASTE TO BE USED BY THE POLICE
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3`= DEPARTMENT, AT A ,PROPOSED. AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED
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,. THIS PURCHASE FROM SPECIAL PROGRAMS AND ACCOUNTS -
CONTINGENT FUND ACCOUNT CODE NO. 921002-880, SAID
ACQUISITION TO.BE.FINANCED THROUGH,TIE MANUFACTURER, OR
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.. OTHER FINANCIAL INSTITUTION.;
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Commissioner Miriam Alonse
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Commissioner Alonsot Item whet?
Mr. Fernandez: Seventeen,
Mayor Sua;c-ez: 'Yes, I think he got it though.
Commissioner Dawkins: He got two readings?
Mayor Suarezt No, no. Just as long as he gets 4/5ths, we are OK.
Commissioner Dawkinst OK.
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31. (A)AUTHORIZE COMMITMENT OF FUNDS Itt SUPPORT OF AGAPE PROGRAM OF
SOUTH FLORIDA JAIL MINISTRIES - ALLOCATE $15,000 (Law
Enforcement Trust Fund).
-(B) DISCUSS AND DEFER: (a) PROPOSED _RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING
SPONSORSHIP OF THE DADE-MIAMI CRIMINAL JUSTICE COUNCIL, AND (b)
PROPOSED RESOLUTION APPROVING PURCHASE OF DIVE SUITS FOR DIVING
IN HAZARDOUS MATERIALS.
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Mayor Suarez: Item 17.
y,> Commissioner Dawkins: Seventeen?
Mayor Suarez: For the Dade Miami Criminal Justice Council - thirty-five from
the Law Enforcement Trust Fund. I entertain a motion on that.
Vice Mayor Plummer: What item are you on?
Mayor Suarez: Seventeen.
Commissioner Alonso: Seventeen.
t Mayor -Suarez: ... seventeen, seventeen. Going once, twice, three times.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Why' don't we defer that 'until such time as we get the '
total list of...
Mr. Odio: Fine.
Vice -Mayor Plummer: what those monies are.
Commissioner Dawkinst OK:
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Mayor Suarez: Move to` defer. ' Manolo, do you have a problem with the motion '
to defer item 17?
Mr. Manuel Gonzalez: Well the thing is, that I have been here for all day
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h addreae please?
Mx. Gonzalez: Yes. My name is Manuel Gonzalez, and address,'1714 W Flagler. +`
3'e;be+ bare since nine o'clock is the :Horning waiting for this.
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spend all day long before - the next two weeks •�,o discuss this matter: This
is peanuts in comparison with the millions of dollars that we have been
talking here. So, could I address the issue?
Mayor Suarez: Well, I'll tell you what. I have a policy of voting against
deferrals, unless somebody has a darn good reason. I agree with you. Thirty-
five thousand dollars should be something that we, by our discretion... I
mean; by administrative discretion would - they should be able to allocate
themselves. So, I have no problem. I don't even need to hear your argument,
but...
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Vice Mayor Plummer: Well Mr. Mayor, let me give_ you the reason for my
consideration. It's not just thirty-five thousand, it's thirty-five thousand
in one. It's fifteen thousand in another. It's sixteen thousand in another.
Mayor Suarez: OK. I thought he was just - you were just addressing item...?
Mr. Gonzalez: Well you know, I am talking about the three, but could I
address the...
Vice Mayor Plummer: What I am saying is, is that I don't want to address the
issue, cutting up the pie so that when we, the Commission want to make a
suggestion, or we want to so -call retain control that we are suddenly told
that there is no monies left in the pot.
Mayor Suarez: I thought the thirty-five for the Criminal Justice Council was
part of an every year...
Lt. Joseph Longueira: Yes, it was.
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( Mayor Suarez: participation, which alloy: tm to have membership on the
€ council.
Vice Mayor Plummer: It's a Law Enforcement Trust Fund.
Mayor Suarez: Right. Allows us to have membership.
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Vice Mayor. Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I don't heve a problem with the Law
Enforcement Trust Fund, or the Criminal Justice, per se. My reason for the
deferment is not knowing when I asked the question this morning, how much of
the monies :.were restricted- or set aside, I was told there was a pot of two
million dollars ($2,000,000), that there is only sixty thousand unrestricted.
We put in another ,three hundred and seventy thousand.- where in the hell is _
all .this money going? That's what I want to '.snow. And I don't think we
should be looking at this in piecemeal fashion. I think we should...
Mayor:.Suarez: In fact I do you one better. We had asked one the
x Commissioners, I think it's Commissioner Dawkins had asked to look at the
entire.Law Enforcement Trust Fund, and...
Vice Mayor Plummer: That's what I asked for again this morning.
Mayor Suarezv we've:never seen that process take place.
` Vise Mayor Plummers That's why I have asked for the deferment. '
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Mayor Suarers. Sir, wait a minute,:Manolo. Sir, those kids are very active,
p.> If you would like - I- don't -.know who they are with - well, he is out the door
now, so he took care of that.
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l.t. Longueiras -: Commisis.ioner.
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Suarez; was:gQislg;to tali him that he can go upstairs to our office,
' they can go to any office ;they want. If they like are like my kids, they
Y� g`�obakly: dealt want .to ait _here and ;listen to this, anyhow.
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_k at it
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5 a tQ nppropristo it, "it changes the.pie all the time.
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chief. This
Commission has indicated to you, to
the department on any number
of occasions:
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Mr. Odio: Commissioner, we will
provide you the information
for the next
meeting.
Vice Mayor Plummer: That we want
to have a bigger say in that
money. Now,
let me tell you what the alternative
is.
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Mayor Suarez: No, no, no, wait
a minute. Let me see if we
even have a"
disagreement. Are you .. ?
Mr. Gonzalez: Well, I'll give you the solution for everything.'
Vice Mayor Plummer: That scares me,
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Mr. Gonzalez: If we can get back the hundred and fifty thousand ($150,000)
that the Police Department, or somebody at the Pc..lice Department stole...
Lt. Longueira: Commissioner, we go through this every time.
Mr. Gonzalez: No, no, no. But this is a matter...
Mayor Suarez: All right. Wait, wait. Nobody oven knew what he was talking
about except for you, Joe. I think I just figured out what he was talking
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about.
Mr. Gonzalez: The Commissioners have short memories.
Mayor Suarez: Wait, wait, wait. You're going to talk about the hundred and
fifty thousand dollars ($150,000) that was stolen four years ago from the
Police department?
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Mr. -Gonzalez: Yea, Yes, the interest is with that.
Mr. Odio: No, no, seven years ago, seven.
Mayor Suarez: No, it couldn't have been seven years ago, because I was Mayor
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at the time, and I sure as heck wasn't Mayor, seven years ago.
Mr. Gonzalez: And what has been done with that? ;ghat investigations?
Mayor Suarez: Question for you. Are you in f,rvor or against our deferring
actionon item 17?
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Mr. Gonzalez: I am against deferring it unless I am given - because I've been
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Mayor Suarers You want us to give thirty-five thousand dollars ($35,000) to
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Mr. Gonzalez: No, no. I just want, that the Police Department get back the
money that was stolen from the police coffers.'
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Mr, Gonzalez: And give it back to - because that's not being - that's more
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than" a' give away. That's 'actually stealing. So, we .have the Police
Department who are the 'agencies that protects the people, stealing from the
'community>_- to -a hundred percent.
Mayor Suarez:. - Al l right. , You're going to get a total of two minutss,to;:say
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whatever you want, as: longas you don't cause a major disruption, I suppose.'
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Mr. Gonzalez: Well, yes, but let... we have short memories, Mayor. R-member
that if you check on the March 14th, the police asked for a hundred and
thirty-three thousand dollars ($133,000) in the March 14, meeting, which was
approved. Now, they come again for sixty-six thousand dollars ($66,000). And
let me tell you - plus we just approved three hundred and sixteen thousand to
buy cars. To pursue who? To pursue the nicE people like me. They don't
pursue the drug dealers. They don't pursue the real bad people in this
community. These brand new cars, Caprice Classics, incidentally, the most
expensive one, is to pursue the nice people of this community. Then we have
an agency which is supposed to protect the public, and it is attacking the
public. We have had many experiences of police brutality, but there are many
ways of police brutality. You don't have to kill a person to use police
brutality. If you are not courteous - if the police is not courteous to
somebody that is given a ticket, that's police brutality. Let me tell you. I
don't know if you have been - except for the Mi.yor who has been robbed, but
lately, I am scared more of the police than the thieves right now in this -
swear to God. And not only that, every time I see a policeman, the way - why
do they need new cars for? The old cars, they run so fast, they almost hit
anybody. I have seen them. I am a vigilante now against the City of Miami
Police, because I have suffered greatly since October 16, 1990. And not only
that, the community is suffering. These six beFsts that killed Mercado, what
have you done?
Ms. Matty Hirai: Time is up, Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Suarez: OK. On this item then, we've got your opinions, and we gave
you two minutes under the code Manolo. Call the roll on the motion to... Do
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Vice Mayor Plummer: Mr. Mayor, that...
Mayor Suarez: You want to apply...?
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Vice Mayor Plummer: I was going to do sixteen...
Mayor Suarez:
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Fine.
Vice Mayor Plummer: ... let's say seventeen, eighteen, and nineteen.
Mayor Suarez: OK. As to those three. ~
Vice Mayor Plummer:'; They are all from the same trust fund, until we get `the'
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Mayor Suarez: OK. All right. You have a problem with eighteen being
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Vice Mayor Plummer: What is this?
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Mayor Suarez: On eighteen being deferred.
Rev. Jose Hernandez: Eighteen. Mayor Suarez, and Commission...
Mayor Suarez: -You've been sitting there all dcy, I guess we should let you
have a say just like we've let Manolo have a say,
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Rev. Hernandez: OK. My name is Reverend Jose Hernandez, I work for Metro
Dads Department of Corrections, and I have the privilege of ;founding a
Ministry called.Agape. It's for women that are released from the Women's
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Detention.Center. And there are many ladies that are out at five o'clock in
the morning and have nowhere to go. A lot of them go back_ to Sisoapne`
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Adu7ovard. We have 'three testimonies here of young ladies that live in the
City of Miami that are getting help. And we have been here all day waiting
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Rev. Hernandaz: And it's just, I mean, they are totally dead. I took them to
a Spanish lunch, and they are falling asleep.
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Mayor Suarez: Lot me see if I can prevail oti, my fellow Commissioner here,
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since this is a fifteen thousand dollar ($15,000) to... All right, on item
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Commissioner Alonso: Yes, I so move.
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Mayor Suarez: So moved.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Second. Call the roll on that item.
Rev. Hernandez: Thank you.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Wait, let me ask only a question. What are these monies
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going to be used for?
Rev. Hernandett These are going to be to enlarge a home. We have an acre of
land behind a church, and we are busting in t1le seam. And we are just going
to enlarge a place for the ladies. You are welcome to come and see. They
are... in fact, if you want a testimony, you are welcome to come. Why don't
you come up here and just...
Commissioner Dawkins: No, no, no.
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Vice Mayor Plummer: No, no, no.
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Rev.: Hernandez: Maybe, you will give us fifteen more.
Commissioner Alonso: No, no, no. We take your word for it.
Mayor Suarez: That's OK.
Commissioner Dawkins: We'll take your word for it.
Mayor Suarez: We'll take your word for it.
Commissioner Alonso: We will visit, but we wi11 take your word today.
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Rev. Hernandez: Than you very much.
Mayor Suarez: I've seen you at work inside the y y jail, and I know you are very
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effective,°Reverend, and."I think the rest of this Commission takes notice:: of
the.fins-work you are doing. Call the roll on the item.
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RESOLUTION NO, 91-282
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A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING, THE COMMI114ENT OF FUNDS IN
SUPPOM OF -THE AGAPE PROGRAM OF THE SOUTH FLORIDA JAIL
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MINISTRIES; AND ALLOCATING FUNDS THEREFOR, IN AN
AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $15,000, FROM THE LAW ENFORCEMENT
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TRUST FUND, SUCH 'COSTS HAVING BEEN. APPROVED BY THE
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AYES: Commissioner Victor be Yurre
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Miriam Alonso
Vide Mayor J. L, Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
Rev. Hernandez: Thank you very much. God ble
Mayor Suarez: On item seventeen and ninet
continue,
Vice Mayor Plummer: Yes, sir.
Mayor Suarez: No one from the general public
so as to those two... Oh - what have you got k
Mr. Manny Rivero: You're going to be
recommendations.
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Mr: Rivero: Manny Rivero, executive director of east Little Havana. I wanted
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32. (Continued Discussion) APPROVE REVISED FIGURES SUBMITTED BY
ADMINISTRATION IN CONNECTION WITH ITEMIZED FUNDING OF DESIGNATED
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND HOUSING AGENCIES 'THROUGH CDBG FUNDS (See label
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Commissioner Dawkins: Mr. Mayor.
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Mayor Suarez: Yes.
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Commissioner Dawkins: The administration is reac.y with this.
Mayor Suarez: Oh, yes. Do we have a recomme-idation? They are the ones in
ink on the last column? - Presumably, as close to the general comments made by
the members of the Commission as can possibly be, and adding up to the correct
amount.
Commissioner Dawkins: OK. Before we start Mr. Mayor, is the Miami Herald
Here? - because I don't want them to miss this. Mr. City Attorney.
Mr. Fernandez: Yes, sir.
Mayor Suarez: Would you record this part separately, and make sure they get
it delivered as quickly as possible, tomorrow morning.
Commissioner Dawkins: Mr. City Attorney, I am gainfully employed at Miami
Dade Community College. I work for Miami Dade Community College. I receive a
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salary from Miami Dade Community College. I will not benefit in any way from
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anything we may have voted for, .for Miami Dade Community College today. Will
you state for me, for the records, if there is <,ny conflict of interest in my
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voting for anything concerning Miami Dade Com=t.ity College?
Mr. Fernandez: No. You have absolutely no conflict.'
Commissioner.De Yurre: Or promoting anything.
Mayor Suarez-. -None? Or promoting,anything? - as he says. Is there any...?
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Commissioner Dawkins: All right. So, I am free to vote for this?
Mr, Fernandez: Yes, sir.
Commissioner'Dawkins: All right, thank .you.
Commissioner De Yurre: -I don't work in Miami Dade Community College... Can,I
vote.on,any item that has to...?
Mr,..Fernandez:: No, you.cannot.
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Vice Mayor Plummer: No, no, no, that's not my point. My point is, how do you
justify this for the application to HUD?
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Mr. Baileys One fifty.
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Vice Mayor Plummer: ... the Dade College at one fifty?
Mr. Bailey: Yes.
Vice Mayor Plummer: All right. So the seven hundred thousand dollars
($700,000) is taken from the homeless? No, it's what the money was there for.
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Mr. Bailey: From another source of funding.
Vice Mayor Plummer: What?
Commissioner De Yurre: It's going to prevent homeless.
Vice Mayor Plummer: No, the man - let's call it what it is. Because, hey,
when they.come back down here, the homeless come back down here, I am going to
sit here and I am going to tell them, hey, the money...
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Mr. Odio: It's not from the homeless.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Excuse me?
Mr. Odio: It's from the acquisition of Camillus House.
Vice Mayor Plummer: That's correct.
Mr. Odio: So we are not taking a penny from the homeless.
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Mr.: Bailey: , No.
Vice Mayor:Plummer: What does Camillus do? - tha Fontainebleau?
Mr. Mariano Cruz: And they took it first from A_.lapattah - remember.
Odio: The Camillus House is still in operation, and they are still`
feeding.
Vice Mayor Plummer: OK. But what I am going to say is, is when they come
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HUD, so go talk to HUD.
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Mr.. Bailey: >. Commissioner.
Vice, Mayor, Plummer: No;;no,":no. I am going to tell all these people, that
the money .we had set aside, has now gone to HUD, so go and talk to HUD. I
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quitter.
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fire you?
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time, and the
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out of
order, we have heard
from Meriano, and he is
not going to
resign,
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Commissioner Dawkins: We're going to fire
you, if you don't leave.
Mayor Suarez: Let the Postmaster General know that he is still working there.
All right.
Vice Mayor Plummer: We just cut your pay, that'r, all.
INAUDIBLE COMMENTS NOT ENTERED INTO THE RECORD.
Mayor Suarez: Mariano, you are a hell of a nice man. You've never been
removed from this Commission, but you are very close today, all right? - very
close. OK. On the item, do we have a motion? - On the figures as proposed by
staff now on the final column, please?
Vice Mayor Plummer: I think this gentleman wants to speak.
Mayor Suarez: OK. Let me just get a motion on the floor please? - on this.
Somebody move it quickly before it goes away.
Vice Mayor Plummer: I'll make a motion to deny.
Mayor Suarez: Somebody make a different motion very quickly.
Commissioner De Yurre: OK. I move.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Well, you want a motion; I'll tell you, I'll make a
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motion to'deny.
Mayor Suarez: All right. Moved to deny. Going once, going twice, going
three times.No second. OK, I'll entertain another motion.
Commissioner De"-Yurre: -"OK, I move.
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Vice "Mayor Plummer: I'll make a motion •.o approve the CDBG staff's
recommend... no, the committee's recommendation.
Mayor "Suarez: You're 'really trying every possible procedural 'trick on me
today.,
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Mayor Suarez: Some friendly motion please be.maoe quickly, thank you.
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Commissioner De Yurre: Mr. Mayor, I move that we approve what is written in;
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Mr. Baileys° Staff recommendations.
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Commissioner Doi: Yurras. Staff recommendation. Also, with the understanding
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anything that that money is being used for? Or are_ you just going
them the money, and say, here,:.
Commissioner De Yurret That's what I am saying, we have to supervise
Money is going to be allocated,
Commissioner Alonsot To supervise.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Supervise, or approve the way the money is spent
Commissioner De Yurre: He is asking if you mean by supervise, rate
right of ultimate approval on the specifics of it?
Commissioner De Yurret That's it. That we retain ultimate right t
disp6nsing of the monies.
Mr. Bailey: We can include that...
Vice Mayor Plummer: The ultimate right to approve?
Commissioner De Yurre: The administration.
Vice Mayor Plummer: In other words, they can't spend any of that
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Mr. Rivero: And I think that we should you know, look at that.
Mayor Suarezi If anyone can make that argument cogently here, and with a lot
of validity, would be your agency. I have to admit, you've done a great job.
Mr. Rivero: We have produced.
Mayor Suarez: And your people are in fact, borderline public housing, because
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they are awfully close to it.
Mr. Rivero: We are moving people out of public housing and providing them
homeownership, and providing them decent housing. And actually producing for
the City, for the residents of Little Havana - decent, affordable housing.
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Mayor Suarez: But don't overdo the argument for eight thousand dollar
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difference. Because you are going to be coming back to us I think, for a
variety of request over a time, and you want tc� make sure that we are still
friendly towards you, Manny. I mean, you know.
Mr. Rivero: It's the principle.
Mayor Suarez: All right. We take into account your comments. We want to
tackle housing at all levels a little bit more than we have in the past.
Maybe it's wise, maybe it isn't. We have certainly argued about it. Call the
roll.
Mr. Fernandez: Mr. Mayor, just a point of clarification.
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Mayor Suarez: Yes.
Mr. Fernandez: We are really back in item thirty-three, and this completes
the entire allocation on a tentative basis.
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Mayor Suarez: Yes, it sure does.
Mr. Fernandez: Correct.
Mayor Suarez: Because it:'s totally put in there, and there is nothing left to
allocate.
Mr. Fernandez: So this is going, Madam Clerk, under item thirty-three, and
then we will come back again next time.
Mayor Suarez: Thank you. Call the roll.
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The following motion :was introduced'by Commissioner De:Yurre, who moved
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MOTION NO. 91-284
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A :'MOTION APPROVING CDBG FUNDING; FOR ECONOMIC
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DEVELOPMENT. AND HOUSING AGENCIES AS..MORE SPECIFICALLY
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HERB BAILEY,. ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER; FURTHER
STIPULATING"THE.'CITY COMMISSION WCULD RETAIN RIGHT; OF
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URBAN DEVELOPMENT; AND FURTHER ACCEPTING THE
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Commissioner Miller J, Dawkins
Commissioner Miriam Alonso
Mayor Xavier Li Suarez
NOES: Vice Mayor J.L. Plummer Jr.
ABSENT: None.
COMMENTS MADE DURING ROLL CALL:
Commissioner Dawkins: With the clarification from the City Attorney stating
that there is no conflict of interest in my votit:g, I vote yes.
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33 ACCEPT BID: P.J. CONSTRUCTORS, INC., FOR LOCAL DRAINAGE PROJECT E-67 D-
5581 (Project 352275).
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Mayor Suarez: Item 20. Accepting a bid of P.J. Constructors Inc., non-
minority/Dade County contractor for local drainage project E-67, et cetera.
We have a motion on this? Please, somebody.
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AYES: Commissioner Victor De Yurre
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Miriam Alonso
Vice Mayor J, L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ARSENTt None.
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34, ACCEPT BID: CENTRAL FLORIDA EQUIPMENT RENTAL OF DADS COUNTY INC., FOR
HEAVY EQUIPMENT FACILITY STORM SEWER RETROFITTING PROJECT B-5557
(Project 352274).
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Mayor Suarez: Item 21. Accepting Central Florida Equipment Rental. Non-
minority/Dade County contractor. Moved. Facility storm - heavy equipment
facility retrofitting project.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Move it.
Mayor Suarez: Vice Mayor Plummer seconds.
Commissioner Alonso: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Any discussion? If not, please cell the roll.
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its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 91-286
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BID OF CENTRAL FLORIDA
EQUIPMENT RENTAL OF DADE COUNTY, INC., IN AN AMOUNT
NOT TO EXCEED $573,565.00, TOTAL BID OF THE PROPOSAL,
FOR -HEAVY EQUIPMENT FACILITY STORM SEWER RETROFITTING
PROJECT B=5557;WITH MONIES THEREFOR ALLOCATED.' FORM
THE FISCAL' YEAR 1990-91 CAPITAL IMPF'OVEMENT ORDINANCE
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N0. 10782, PROJECT: NO, 352274, IN THE AMOUNT OF
$573,565.00 TO COVER THE CONTRACT COST AND.$119,209.00
TO COVER THE ESTIMATED 'EXPENSES, FOR AN ESTIMATED
TOTAL OF�$692,774 00; AND AUTHORIZING THE'.CITY'MANAGER
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TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT.WITH SAID FIRM
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and adopted
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'Commissioner Miriam Alonso-
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35, ACCEPT BIDt Y & W ROOFING AND REMODELING, INC., FOR COCONUT GROVE
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WEST EXHIBIT AREA ROOF REPLACEMENT B-3227-A (Project
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Dawkins.
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Mayor Suarez: Seconded by Commissioner De Yurre.
Vice Mayor Plummert Did we just recently do that roof when we did the seven
million dollars ($7,000,000) worth of expansion?
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Commissioner Alonso: No. Not the roof.
Dr. Luis Prieto: No, not this part, sir.
Mr. Odio: No. Not this part. That's the problem, we never did it.
Dr. Prieto: This is in the old part.
Commissioner Alonso: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded. Any discussion? If not, please call the
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roll.
Commissioner Alonso: Incredible.
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moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 91-287
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A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BID OF Y & W ROOFING AND
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REMODELING, INC.; IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED
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$151,882.00, TOTALBIDOF THE PROPOSAL, FOR COCONUT
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GROVE -EXHIBITION CENTER - WEST EXHIBIT AREA ROOF
REPLACEMENT B-3227-A, WITH MONIES THEREFOR ALLOCATED
FROM THE FISCAL YEAR 1990-91 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT
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OF $151,882.00 TO COVER THE CONTRACT COST; AND
$23,118.00 TO COVER THE ESTIMATED EXPENSES, FOR AN
ESTIMATED, TOTAL OF_$175,000.00, AND AUTHORIZING THE
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(Here follows 'body of resolution- omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
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Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded. Any discussion? -If not, please call the
roll.
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RESOLUTION No. 91-288
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BID OF PING-FONTICIELLA AND
ASSOCIATES, INC., IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED
$126,625.10, TOTAL BID OF THE PROFOSAL, FOR CURTIS
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PARK REDEVELOPMENT - COURTS PROJECT B-2983-A; WITH
MONIES THEREFOR ALLOCATED FROM THE FISCAL YEAR 1990-91
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331353, IN THE AMOUNT OF $126,62-.10 TO COVER THE
CONTRACT COST; AND $24,413.97 TO CGVER THE ESTIMATED
EXPENSES, FOR AN ESTIMATED TOTAL OF $151,039.07; AND
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AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT
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(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk )
Upon being. seconded by Commissioner De Yurre, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Victor De Yurre
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
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Vice Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
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ABSENT: None.
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37. ACCEPT BID; Y & W ROOFING AND REMODELING, INC., FOR DINNER KEY MARINA -
DOCKMASTER ROOF REPLACEMENT B-3202-H (Project 414005).
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Mayor Suarez: Item 24. Moved and seconded. Any discussion on 24? If not,
please call the roll.
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Vice Mayor Plummer: Where in the hell does this Y & W come from all of a
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sudden? I've never heard of them before, and...
Commissioner Dawkins: Yes, and no.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Yes, and no?
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Dr. Prieto: They are an ex -Miami firm, by the way. They have been around for
tha,hy years.
Vice Mayor Plummer: They're a city firm.
�z Dr. Prieto: They used to be. They just moved down to the County. They have
k been around for a long time.
' Mayor Suarez: Call the roll before.._
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Dawkins, who
moved its adoptions
RESOLUTION NO. 91-289
A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE BID OF Y & W ROOFING AND
REMODELING, INC., IN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $10,700.00,
TOTAL BID OF THE PROPOSAL, FOR DINNER KEY MARINA -
DOCKMASTER ROOF REPLACEMENT B-3207.-H; WITH MONIES
; THEREFOR ALLOCATED FROM THE FISCAL YEAR 1990-91
CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT ORDINANCE NO. 10782, PROJECT NO. I
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CONTRACT COST; AND $2,697.91 TO COVER THE ESTIMATED
EXPENSES, FOR AN ESTIMATED TOTAL OF $13,397.91; AND
AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT
�.,. WITH SAID FIRM.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Vice Mayor Plummer, the resolution was passed and
adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Victor De Yurre
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Miriam Alonso
Vice Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr. �
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez j
NOES None.
ABSENT: None. i
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38. � DISCUSSION CONCERNING REQUEST BY DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY (DDA)
FOR CONFIRMATION OF PROPOSED APPOINTEES.
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Mr. Fernandez. Withdrawn.
Vice Mayor Plummer: No, wait, no, no, no.
z Mayor Suarez: Withdrawn. - Like we wanted to ask questions about it, Vice
Mayor Plummer? �.
".,Vice Mayor Plummer:. Yes. I: wanted. one of *nose appointments I understand
is one of :by appointments. Is that true or not? I appointed Ramlawl who
resigned and created a vacancy, and is it my appointment? , f
Matthew Schwartz: Commissioner, the appointments to the DAA ward, ths3'' '
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Because if we are, let me know.
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Vice Mayor Plummer: No, I see names here that have been proffered to us, and
j,. one of 'them, I don't know. OK? One I do know, and I am assuming who is the
other vacancy for? Who was the second vacancy?'
Mr. Schwartz: The second vacancy was for... excuse me. My mind just slipped ¢`
because we deferred the item.
Commissioner De Yurret Welcome to the club.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Was it Commissioner Dawkins appointment?
Ms. Matty Hirai: It was Commissioner Kennedy's, I believe.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Kennedy?
Commissioner Alonso: Kennedy? So it means it'.a mine.
Ms. Hirai: Yes.
Vice Mayor Plummert That's what I am trying to get at.
Commissioner Alonso: How about that?
Ms. Hirai: Commissioner, according to... Mr. Vice Mayor...
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Vice Mayor Plummer: Who is the other vacancy? What was
the name?
Ms. Hirai: Two appointments. Your, Knox, and Orlando Abella, are proposed to
replace Ramlawi, who had been appointed by Vice Mayor Plummer,
and Thompson,
who was appointed by Commissioner. Kennedy.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Thompson?
Ms. -'Hirai: Yes, sir.
>� Commissioner-Alonso: You owe me one.
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Vice Mayor Plummery So then traditionally, if we follow
tradition, the two of
us will make -:recommendations to you. :Is that correct, Mr. Mayor?.
�. Commissioner Alonso: That's right.
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Commissioner Dawkins: Twenty-six.
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Vice Mayor Plummer: I'll make my recommendation to them
in writing.
Mayor Suarez: OTC.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Thank you.
Mayor,'Suarez: And there is none. No, as to both? OK.
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Mr. Odios Twenty-six is a nomination of Commiss'oner Dawkins.
Mayor Suarez: Twenty-six.
Commissioner Dawkins: Moved.
Mayor Suarezi Moved. Seconded. Any discus: -ion on twenty-six?
please call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Dawkins, who
moved its adoption,
RESOLUTION NO. 91-290
A RESOLUTION APPOINTING CLIFTON ADDISON TO THE CITY OF
MIAMI AUDIT ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here
and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner De Yurre, the resolution
was passed
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Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
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Commissioner Miriam Alonso
Vice Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
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ABSENT: None.
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CORPORATION (DEC) ($6,348),- AND (b) ENVIRONMENTAL
SYSTEMS- RESEARCH
INSTITUTE'(ESRI) ($9,300).
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Mayor Suarez: Have.we done...? Twenty-seven.
Commissioner Alonso: Twenty-seven, I move, yes.,
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Mayor Suarez:, Twenty-seven is moved.
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Commissioner De Yurre: Second.
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Mayor Suarez: Seconded; Any discussion on twenty ---seven? If not, please call {
the roll..
Mr, Fernandez: It requires 4/5ths.
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s Vice Mayor Plummert This is software.
Commissioner Alonso: Software.
Vice Mayor Plummar: And it's maintenance of...
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Mr. Odiot Commissioner, may I?
Commissioner Dawkinst What do you use - no, no, no - I am talking to J.L.
Plummer right here.
Mr. Odiot OK.
Mayor Suarez: You can't use it to eat, that's for sure.
Commissioner Dawkins: What do you use software with?
Vice Mayor Plummert With the computer, but this...
Commissioner Dawkins: Fine. So this is computer related purchase.
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disagreed with you.
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,.. Vice Mayor Plummer: This is maintenance of software.
Commissioner Dawkins: It's still... OK, all right, To satisfy Commissioner
Plummer, 'here we go again, spending money in the computer area.
Vice;Mayor Plummer: That, I agree with.
Commissioner Dawkins: Thank you. That's so sweet of you. Where is the
system that,the. Manager was
y. g going to develop that would help to collect money
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task force? Now, where,is.that?
Mr.. Bert' Waters: 'That's through our geographic information system'',
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CommissionerDawkins: No, no, no. That's has nothing, no, you don't - you
-' collect garbage money through this? I am talking to Mr. Carlos Smith.
x' Mr. Carlos Smith: Are you referring to the taek force?
Commis sioner:Dawkins: . Beg pardon? Yes, I am referring to the task force, .and
`:= want,, to know :what system, have you - devised, . and tell . me how much money you
have collected through this task force, identifying garbage accounts that are
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' Pi t" Msg4r Plummer; For what?
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Mr, Smith: It goes towards the sanitation account. I mean, it goes into the
General Fund,
Commissioner Dawkins: OK.
Mr, Odio: You're right, Commissioner. And what we will do is, by September,
we will have a total recap of the year to see that we have picked up
additional revenues by inspecting every property... i
Commissioner Dawkins: All right. Have someboay Mr. Manager, sit down with
me, and show me how we are doing it.
Mr. Odio: OK.
Commissioner Dawkins: And how you have developed a collection system in our
computers. Thank you.
Mr. Odio: By the way, we plan to tie it into this geographical system in the
computer. This software we are buying here, eventually, we will tie Solid
Waste to that.
Commissioner Dawkins: No, see. That's how you got me to buy the first
computers.
Mr. Odio: OK.
Commissioner Dawkins: By telling me that you were going to tie in...
Vice Mayor Plummer: Mr. Manager.
Mr. Odio: Yes.
Commissioner Dawkins: .., the payments of our personnel, and payment, and you
got me to buy it then, OK?
Mr. Odio: No, sir.
Commissioner Dawkins: So don't do it to me. Thank you.
Vice Mayor Plummer: I paid ninety thousand dollars ($90,000) to buy a
software program for the Police Department a year ago.
Mr. Odio: That's the software system?
Vice Mayor Plummer: Yes, sir. Where is it? - And why isn't it being used?
And that's almost a year ago.
Commissioner Alonso: And how much it was?
Vice Mayor Plummer: Ninety thousand dollars ($90;000).
Li.'Joe Longueira: Commissioner, the consultants just received recently, the
downloaded cost for servicing, and he is customizing a software at this time.
We should have it shortly, his package back to us with the customized
software -' based on the City of Miami reportinE; areas. 0K? We sent°it to
him,. there was some problems how it was configured, he sentit back, and it's'
been returned to him.
Vice Mayor Plummer; Would you give me a weekly report on where the status of
that is please?
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Commissioner Dawkins: No further questions, Mr. Mayor.
: Mayor Suarez: OK. On item 27, do we have a motion and a second, City'',
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The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Alonso, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 91-291
A RESOLUTION BY A 4/5THS AFFIRMATIVE VOTE OF THE
MEMBERS OF THE CITY COMMISSION AFTER A DULY ADVERTISED
PUBLIC HEARING, WAIVING THE REQUIREMENT FOR
COMPETITIVE SEALED BIDS DUE TO A SOLE SOURCE OF
PROCUREMENT AND APPROVING THE ACQUISITION OF
f MAINTENANCE OF SOFTWARE RELATED SERVICES FROM DIGITAL
EQUIPMENT CORPORATION (DEC) AT AN ESTIMATED ANNUAL
i COST OF 6,348.00 AND ENVIRONMENTAL SYSTEMS RESEARCH
INSTITUTE (ESRI) AT AN ESTIMATED ANNUAL COST OF
$9,300.00 FOR A TOTAL ESTIMATED ANNUAL AMOUNT OF
$15,648.00 ON A CONTRACT BASIS FOR A PERIOD OF FIVE
YEARS RENEWABLE ANNUALLY FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF
PLANNING, BUILDING AND ZONING; ALLOCATING FUNDS
THEREFOR FROM THE 1990-91 OPERATING BUDGET ACCOUNT NO.
290201-670; AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO INSTRUCT
d THE CHIEF PROCUREMENT OFFICER TO ISSUE A PURCHASE
ORDER FOR THIS SERVICE AND THEREAFTER TO RENEW THIS
CONTRACT ANNUALLY SUBJECT TO THE AVAILABILITY OF
FUNDS.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner De Yurre, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Victor De Yurre
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Miriam Alonso
Vice Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
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ABSENT: None.
41. EXTEND THE FLAGLER / CORE AREA SECURITY DISTRICT SPECIAL IMPROVEMENT
DISTRICT (SECURITY, STREET MAINTENANCE, AND SIMILAR SERVICES) - CONTINUE
TO LEVY SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS AGAINST PROPERTIES.
[R.K.W.s DOWNTOWN RANGERS POLICE]
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Mayor Suarez: Item 28.
Vice Mayor, Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I am going to move 28, because the merchants
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who paid for it, want it.I don't think it's really worth a tinker's boohoot,
but they are willing to pay for it, they want it, I think they can get more
for their money, but that's what they want, God bless them, let them pay for
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Mayor Suarez: Thank you, sir.
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Vice Mayor Plummer: And I want to make sure, Mr. Manager, that the money you
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uniforms, and everything.
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Mr. Odio: Well, according to them 1 asked the question to them, not to the
Police Department. The crime has been reduced in the downtown...
Commissioner Alonso: Forty percent reduction.'
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Mr. Odios Did you tell me forty or not?
Commissioner Alonso: Forty percent.
Mr. Schwartz: I told you forty at the Brickell Area Association, I just
spoke to Sergeant Gibbs, and he said that the crimes that occurred in the
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evening had gone down about sixty percent.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Sixty?
Mr. Schwartz: Sixty percent.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Sixty? OR. Fine.
Mr..Odio: Sixty? Or, OK.
Commissioner Alonso: That's excellent.
Vice Mayor Plummer: That's fine.
Ms. Karen Leigh: - My name is Karen Leigh, and ] represent CourthouseCenter.
It's located at 175 NW...
Ms. Hirai: Excuse me. This is another issue, 'right? This is another agenda
item?
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Mayor Suarez:' On twenty-nine? On twenty-eight, rather.
Ms. Leigh: This is twenty-eight.
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Mr. Odio: Across form the Metro Station.
Ms. Leigh: I'm sorry. - Is that all right?
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the City Rangers. We 'feel that we have been taxed adequately -.'= for -;our
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Plummer. I just wanted to go on record as saying, that the tenants of the
building do not support the taxation.
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Vice Mayor Plummer: The majority have the rule, and that's how we go.
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Siva us feedback on it, and participate with there, at cetera, at cetera`- as a
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percent now? Because at the time I checked last, if you got Fifty percent to
dhow up, you were lucky.
Mr. Schwartz: It's our understanding, it has greatly improved. They have..:
the program is working much better now.
Vice Mayor Plummer: When you are at the bottom of the ladder, there is only
one way to go, and that's up. It had to improve.
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Ms: Leigh: That's true. We feel...
Vice Mayor Plummer: What's the total cost of the program?
Mr. Schwartz: The total cost of the program is three hundred and forty-seven
thousand dollars ($347,000). The Ranger portion of it is about three hundred
thousand. The forty thousand goes to the Sanitation Department. There are
three people sweeping the street, and about five, six thousand dollars goes to
the Finance Department for the processing.
Vice Mayor Plummer: That's fine. Like I sair., the people want it, they are
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willing to pay for it, give it to them.
Mayor Suarez: Thank you for your comments. Have we voted on it, Madam City
Clerk?
Vice Mayor Plummer: No.
Ms. Hirai: We have to call the roll, Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Suarez: Please call the roll in twenty-nine.
The following resolution was introduced by Vice Mayor Plummer, who moved
its adoption:
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RESOLUTION NO. 91-292
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A RESOLUTION WITH ATTACHMENT(S), CONFIRMING RESOLUTION
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NO. 89-548, ADOPTED JUNE 7, 1989, AND DETERMINING THAT
SECURITY AND STREET MAINTENANCE AND SIMILAR SERVICES,
AS DECLARED BY RESOLUTION NO. 89-•828, L ADOPTED ON
SEPTEMBER 14, 1989, BE EXTENDED FOR THE PERIOD OF ONE
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(1) YEAR IN THE FLAGLER/CORE AREA SECURITY DISTRICT
SPECIAL IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT, AS ADOPTED ON JUNE 7,
1989, PURSUANT TO RESOLUTION NO. 89-828; FURTHER,
CONTINUING TO LEVY SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS AGAINST
PROPERTIES IN SAID DISTRICT BENEFT.TED -THROUGH THE
PROVISION OF SUCH SERVICES FOR SAID ADDITIONAL ONE (1)
YEAR, IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE FINAL ASSESSMENT ROLL TO
BE FILED FORTHWITH WITH THE CITY CLERK.
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Upon being seconded by Commissioner Alon:o, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote:
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Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
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42. FIRST READING ORDINANCE: AMEND 11000 ATLAS - CHANGE CLASSIFICATION AT
1712-1814 N.W. 22 PLACE (WASHBURNS SUB) FROM R-2 TWO FAMILY RESIDENTIAL
TO PR PARKS AND RECREATION.
tR.K.W.: CHILDCARE, DAYCARE FACILITY, CURI'IS PARK]
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Mayor Suarez: Item 29.
Commissioner Alonso: Move.
Mr. Guillermo Olmedillo: Items twenty-nine anc thirty are companion items.
Twenty-nine is a zoning change. It goes...
Commissioner Alonso: Let's move. i
Vice Mayor Plummer: Fine. If they are willing to pay for it.
Mayor Suarez: Twenty-nine was moved by Commissioner Alonso.
Commissioner Dawkins: Before we do this, I would like to see if we can't
short-circuit - I am sure that Mrs. Keller is going to speak on twenty-nine
and thirty, and she is scheduled for thirty-nine, I mean, thirty-six I think. _
Commissioner.Alonso: Is she also involved in twenty-nine? I don't think so.
INAUDIBLE COMMENTS NOT ENTERED INTO THE RECORD.
Commissioner Alonso: No.
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;. Curtis Park._ As a matter of fact, they are part of Curtis Park, and they
should be rezoned to the PR designation. And the major use special permit is
item 30, to. have a childcare facility for eighty children, for 5000 square
feet of building. In page seventeen of your backup package, in item thirty,
you will ,see.that.these are the conditions of the major use special permit,
' which contained :the typical conditions that we have minority participation,
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Vice Mayor Plummer: Who will operate the daycare center?
= Mr. Olmedillo: I would ask the applicant.
Vice Mayor .Plummer: Do I have assurances thft the operators will not be
coming back to the City for money for operation?
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County to the operation of this.
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from to build the facility?
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of Florida.
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Mr, Urras Yes. We are ready to conclude right tiow.
Commissioner Alonso: Last year,
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Vice Mayor Plummer: "BUENA SUERTE."
Mr. Fernandez: On item twenty-nine?
Mayor Suarezt Yes. Read the ordinance. Call the roll.
AN ORDINANCE ENTITLED -
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE ZONING A:"LAS OF ORDINANCE
NO. 11000, THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MIAMI,
FLORIDA, AS AMENDED, BY CHANGING THE ZONING
CLASSIFICATION OF THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT
APPROXIMATELY 1712-1814 NORTHWEST 22ND PLACE, MIAMI,
FLO91DA (MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED HEREIN), FROM R-2
TWO FAMILY RESIDENTIAL TO PR PARKS AND RECREATION; BY
MAKING FINDINGS; AND BY MAKING ALL NECESSARY CHANGES
ON PAGE NO. 25 OF SAID ZONING ATLAS; CONTAINING A
REPEALER PROVISION AND SEVERABILTTY CLAUSE; AND
PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
Was introduced by Commissioner Alonso and seconded by Vice Mayor Plummer
and was passed on its first reading by title by the following vote%
AYES: Commissioner Victor De Yurre
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Commissioner Miriam Alonso
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Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
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that copies were available to the members of the City Commission and
to the public.
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43. APPROVE, CONDITIONALLY, MAJOR USE SPECIAL PERMIT FOR CURTIS PARK. DAY
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CARE CENTER PROJECT (NONPROFIT CHILD CARE FACILITY FOR AREA RESIDENTS),
TO BE LOCATED AT 1820-1840 N.W. 22 PLACE.
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Commissioner Alonso: Companion item.
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Mayor Suarez. Moved.
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call the roll.
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its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 91-293
A RESOLUTION WITH ATTACHMENT(S) CONDITIONALLY
APPROVING A MAJOR USE SPECIAL PER'4IT, PURSUANT TO
ARTICLE 17, ORDINANCE NO. 11000, AS AMENDED, THE
ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA, FOR
THE CURTIS PARK DAY CARE CENTER PROJECT TO BE LOCATED
AT APPROXIMATELY 1820-1840 NORTHWEST 22ND PLACE,
MIAMI, FLORIDA (MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED HEREIN),
TO BE COMPRISED OF A NONPROFIT CHILD CARE FACILITY FOR
THE AREA'S RESIDENTS, WITH CAPACITY FOR 80 CHILDREN,
MAXIMUM OF 5,000 SQUARE FEET OF BUILDING AREA ON ONE
LEVEL ONLY, AND INCLUDING A PARKING AREA COMPRISED OF
EIGHT PARKING SPACES AND A DROP-OFF AREA; ESTABLISHING
AN EXPIRATION DATE; MAKING FINDINGS; DIRECTING THE
CITY CLERK TO TRANSMIT THIS RESOLUTION TO THE
DEVELOPER; PROVIDING THAT THE MAJOR USE SPECIAL PERMIT
SHALL BE BINDING ON THE APPLICANT AND SUCCESSORS IN
INTEREST; PROVIDING FOR RELIANCE ON THE APPLICATION
AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
(Here follows body of resolution, on-itted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner
and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Victor De Yurre
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Miriam Alonso
Vice Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
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44. WAIVE CODE PROHIBITION - PROCURE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES BY ELOY VASQUEZ
CONCERNING PROMOTION AND SOLICITATION OF SPONSORS FOR: JULY 4TH WEEKEND
EXTRAVAGANZA (AT BAYFRONT PARK)
Mayor Suarez: Item 31.
Vice. Mayor. Plummer: I move item thirty-one and thirty-two.
Commissioner Alonso: Yes, I second.
Mayor Suarez: Moved and second.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Mr. Mayor, just for your edification. We have joined
hands with the County, instead of having separate kind of organizations.
Commissioner Alonso: Wonderful.
Vice Mayor Plummer: They will put on the parcee down Flagler Street which ` t
will terminate at the park, at which time we will take over, and run the show
from that point on.
Mayor Suarez: All right.
Vice Mayor Plummer; So, it's a combined deal.
Mayor Suarez: Super.
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Mayor Suarezt Commissioner Dawkins.
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does that mean?
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Mr. Odiot What?
Commissioner Dawkinst What does ten percent of gross sponsorship sales mean?
Mr. Ira Katzt Commissioner, we have packages out to the private sector to
subsidize the event and to raise money for the event to put some money into
the park.
Commissioner Dawkins: OK, all right, so in the event, you're going to pay
this gentleman $2,000, but in the event that he raises $100,000, ten percent
of a hundred thousand is ten thousand.
Mr. Katz: Correct.
Commissioner Dawkins: So he will get $12,000 for whatever he does. He or
she, I don't what it is.
Vice Mayor Plummer: He.
Mr. Odio: He.
Commissioner Dawkins: Is that right?
Mr. Katz: That's correct, sir.
Vice Mayor Plummer: But we get ninety. Well, OK, eighty-eight, I'm sorry. I
hope he sells a half a million dollars. Because then we get four, forty-
eight.
§` Commissioner` Dawkins: No further questioning, Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Suarez: Thank you. Call the roll on 30 and 31. It's 31 and 32, I'm
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Me. Hirai; Yes, because one requires 4/5ths.
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moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 91-294
A RESOLUTION WAIVING BY A 4/5THS AFFIRMATIVE VOTE OF
THE MEMBERS OF THE CITY COMMISSION AFTER A DULY
ADVERTISED PUBLIC HEARING, THE PROHIBITION CONTAINED
IN CITY CODE SECTION 2-302 FOR THE PROCUREMENT OF
PROFESSIONAL SERVICES BY ELOY VASQUEZ IN CONNECTION
WITH THE PROMOTION AND SOLICITATION OF SPONSORS FOR
THE "JULY 4TH WEEKEND EXTRAVAGANZA" BEING HELD BY THE
BAYFRONT PARK MANAGEMENT TRUST AT BAYFRONT PARK.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Alonso, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Victor De Yurre
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Miriam Alonso
Vice Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
45. EXECUTE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH ELOY VASQUEZ FOR PROMOTION
AND SOLICITATION OF SPONSORS FOR: JULY 4TH WEEKEND EXTRAVAGANZA (AT
BAYFRONT PARK).
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Mayor Suarez: On 32.
Vice Mayor Plummer: I move 32.
Ms. Hirai: Commissioner Alonso.
Commissioner Alonso: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Seconded.
Ms. Hirai: Commissioner Dawkins.
Commissioner Dawkins: All right, under discussion.
Mayor Suarez: Wait, I'm sorry. Hold that roll call, please.
Commissioner Dawkins: Under discussion. Now, I want you to realize that I
don't know this gentleman and nobody else up here does. But you don't have no
problems paying him ten percent of what he raises. So when some other r
individuals come up here with this same idea, I don't want us to go through no
changes up here like this was never done before. Call the roll.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Just for your edification, you're entitled to know this
man's background.
Commissioner Dawkins: When I bring mine up here, I'll tell you his
background, or she. He or she.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Well, I'm telling you,,. I want to tell you that this man
is A professional, He is..,
Commissioner Dawkins: I will not bring you a nonprofessional,
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Commissioner Dawkinas I don't care what. I only say, and I will say it again
in the record,.,
Vice Mayor Plummer: Hey, Miller. Hey, Miller, Miller,
Commissioner Dawkins No further discussion.
Mayor Suarez: Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummer, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 91-295
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE
AN AGREEMENT, IN A FORM ACCEPTAILE TO THE CITY
ATTORNEY, WITH ELOY VASQUEZ, FOR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES
RELATED TO THE PROMOTION AND SOLICITATION OF SPONSORS
FOR THE "JULY 4TH WEEKEND EXTRAVAGANZA" TO BE HELD AT
BAYFRONT PARK, FOR A PAYMENT OF $2,000 PLUS 10% OF
GROSS SPONSORSHIP SALES, SAID PERCENTAGE TO BE PAYABLE
AS FUNDS GENERATED BY SUCH SALES ARE. RECEIVED BY SAID
TRUST, WITH FUNDS THEREFOR ALLOCAZED FROM BAYFRONT
PARK MANAGEMENT TRUST FISCAL YEAR 1990-91 BUDGET,
SPECIAL EVENTS ACCOUNT.
(Here follows body of resolution, u_nitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner De Yurre, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote; -
AYES: Commissioner Victor De Yurre
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Miriam Alonso
Vice Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
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46. ENDORSE CONSTRUCTION, AT EASTERLY TERMIN17S OF CHOPIN PLAZA, OF MEMORIAL
TO HONORALL PEOPLE WHO HAVE LOST THEIN LIVES, EN ROUTE TO THE USA,
ATTEMPTING TO GAIN FREEDOM'- ACCEPT DONXZT-ON OF LIBERTY COLUMN MONUMENT
(ARTIST'HUMBERTO SANCHEZ)
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Commissioner Alonsos Could I present a resolution in reference- to liberty
column monument that has come to us so many time::, and we have had problems in locating it at Bayside and also problems locating it at Bayfront-Park and now
finally we have a location that is agreeable for everyone concerned. And I
have a resolution and I'd like to read:
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Commissioner Dawkins: Second.
Mayor Suarez: Seconded. Any discussion? If r,o,....
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get it clear. Does this Commission have that right to do such or
are they
recommending to the authority or is this Cor,*nission got to abolish the
authority to get what they want? All I'm asking is, from a....
Commissioner Aloneo: No, no, no, it has nothing to do with the...
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Vice Mayor Plummer: This is not part of the...
Commissioner Alonso: No.
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Mr, Lees That is not part of Bayfront Park.
Commissioner Alonso: Not at all, not at all.
Vice Mayor Plummer: I'm sorry, I was just asking. OK?
Mr. Lee: Yes, sir.
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Humberto?
Mr. Lee: Not yet, sir. We're going to develop ;t.
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this.
Mr. Lee: None at all, sir, and all we will provide is technical assistance.
Vice Mayor Plummer: OK, and they will raise the money in total.
Mr. Lee: Yes', sir.
Commissioner Alonso: Yes.
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The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Alonso,
who
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RESOLUTION NO. 91-256
A RESOLUTION ENDORSING THE CONSTRUCTION OF A MEMORIAL
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IN HONOR OF ALL PEOPLE WHO LOST THEIR LIVES IN AN
ATTEMPT TO GAIN FREEDOM WHILE ENROUTE TO THE SHORES OF
_. AMERICA; ACCEPTING THE DONATION OF THE "LIBERTY COLUMN
MONUMENT" BY ARTIST HUMBERTO SANCHEZ AS A FITTING
TRIBUTE TO SERVE AS SAID MEMORIAL; DESIGNATING A SITE.
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FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF SAID MEMORIAL; ,AND AUTHORIZING''
;THE CITY MANAGER TO PROVIDE TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE IN
THE CONSTRUCTION AND ERECTION OF SAID MEMORIAL.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the ,Officeof the City Clerk.)
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Upon being seconded by Commissioner Dawkin:j, the resolution was
passed
and adopted by.the following vote:
AYES; Commissioner Victor De Yurre
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(B) APPOINT GARY SCHWEITZER AS TREASUPE,R OF BAYFRONT PARK MANAGEMENT
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Mayor Suarez: Item thirty five, Bayfront Park Management Trust.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Who are the appointments to be?
Mr. Ira Katz: Yes, in the last set of appointments somehow Mr. Osmundo
Martinez, one of Commissioner De Yurre's appointments, was omitted from the
resolution. So we needed to clarify that and ask for the re -extension of his
appointment for three years to 1994.
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Vice Mayor Plummer: So move.
Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded. Any discussion? If not, please call the
roll.
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The following resolution was introduced b; Commissioner Plummer, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 91-297
A RESOLUTION REAPPOINTING OSMUNDO MARTINEZ TO SERVE AS
A MEMBER OF THE BAYFRONT PARK MANAGEMENT TRUST TO
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SERVE A TERM OF OFFICE TO EXPIRE JANUARY 31, 1993.
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(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
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Upon being seconded by Commissioner De Yur:•e, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote:
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AYES: Commissioner Victor De Yurre
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Miriam Alonso
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Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
Mayor Suarez: Item 36.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Wait a minute. We also have a problem, Mr. Mayor, and I
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just want to clear u j p the problem. In our letters of incorporation, we never
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-had a position of a treasurer. We would like to have one of our members.,Mr.
City Attorney...
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Mayor Suarez: I can't imagine anybody would have any problem with that.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Do we have to change?
Mr. Jorge Fernandez; Well,; you would need to amend.your code provision right
now if you want, for yourselves, to appoint your own treasurer. Otherwise,
the way it reads right now, is that this City Commission appoints a treasurer.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Who do we want
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Mr Katz; We'd like for Mr. Gary Schweitzer
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Vice Mayor l'iemnaarr I'li nominate
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Commissioner Alonso: So move. Oh, I second.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Yes:
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Mayor Suarez: Moved and second. Any...
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Commissioner Dawkins: What are we doing?
Vice Mayor Plummer: We're appointing one person on the board to be the
treasurer. It's not me, so don't worry about it.
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The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Plummerj who
moved its adoption:,
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RESOLUTION NO. 91-293 IX
A RESOLUTION CONFIRMING THE DESIGNATION OF GARY C.
SCHWEITZER TO SERVE AS TREASURER OF THE BAYFRONT PARK
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MANAGEMENT TRUST, TO SERVE SUCH TERM AS MAY BE
PROVIDED BY THE TRUST. i
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Upon being seconded b Commissioner Alonso, the resolution was passed
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and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Victor De Yurre f
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Commissioner Miriam Alonso t Ya
Vice Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
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Commissioner Dawkins: No, hold it. How many black people on the committee?, F
Vice Mayor Plummer: I think we - oh, no, we got more than one — we•got... Yx
s Commissioner Alonso: Athalie Range.
Vice Mayor: Plummer: We got Athalie Range.
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Mr. Katz: There's about seven. There's Ghislain Gouraige,ther'e! l. s Caro,.,
Commissioner Dawkins: OK, is it any of them .with the qualifications .to serve
Y. as treasurer?
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Mr. Katz: The previous treasurer.was black, :sir:_
` Commissioner Dawkins. Beg your pardon? ritF
Mr. Katz: The previous treasurer, Mr. Gouraige, was.r.
G Commissioner Dawkins: That was :all the more reason.why to have another oas, ,
OK. All right, no further questions. Can't win them all. jHI
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48. PERSONAL APPEARANCE: MS, PAT KELLER, PRESIDENT OF ALLAPATTAH COMMUNITY
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ASSOCIATION, INC., TO DISCUSS PLACEMENT OF DAY CARE CENTER IN ALLAPATTAH
MINI PARK.
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Ms. Pat Keller% I'm Pat Keller, president of the Allapattah Community
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Association. I'd like to reserve part of my t-ime for Mr. Cruz because he
represents Allapattah, so you might cut me short. We want to address only new
issues having to do with the park located at 1500 N.W. 16 Avenue. Mrs. Alonso
made the statement that the child care center is most needed over and above
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what we already have. And she is partly - well, basically right - it is a
child care center now. We have the youngsters is community care. The mothers—
bring their babies and the workers eat lunch, and the ACLFs have a breathing
space. And plus that, we have the child care center. The teenagers have body
building, and while the tots play is being carried out. The older people
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chat, and, as you know, we receive money from CD and we did that because we
qualified for it because we showed we had very little open space. Now, what
is relevant here is - yes, I'll get to that - is that now the situation is far
worse. We have far more section 8 and low cost housing and we even have the
ACLFs. How can this be reconciled with CD guidelines? There are wrongs here
inasmuch as the Allapattah Community Association was not notified of this
proposed alteration, ripping up of our park. Mr. Cruz, the spokesperson for
Allapattah was not notified, and the renters, of course, were not notified.
And after all, these are the youngsters that are playing in the park. They're
the children of the renters because if people owned property there, their
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children would be playing in the backyard. The developers call themselves the
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Allapattah-Wynwood group. There is just simply no such group. It's either,
the Allapattah, or it's the Wynwood. Mr. Fonseca, the developer, and Mr. Rios
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come from Wynwood. Wynwood received monies, as you know, for a gorgeous new
park. Now they want to take our little park: Something just seems wrong
here. I hope I'm not overstaying my talk, beca,ise I want Mr. Cruz...:OK. The
proposition' has been put forth that a portion of our park be taken: I took a
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look at the plans and the plans show a linear building which could be picked
up those plans and be put on just about any piece of property because it could
be adaptable to just about any piece of property. In other words, it's not -
round or it doesn't have angles to it that couldn't be put on just about any
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piece of property. So we would suggest that you might want to talk with Mr.
Cruz about an alternative site. The fact that this building, this proposed
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building, can't be reconciled with CD guidelines is what bothers us. Because
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it takes up our open space. And I know many of you people- have been there,
because the youngsters have told me that you've been there and we do
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appreciate it. The -CD, as you know, determined that we lacked this open
space, and this flies in the face of CD planners. The original park cost us
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$138,000. That was 15 years ago. I think you would agree that it's probably•
worth about double that, or $280, 000 today, to 1uplizate it. Mr. Fonseca is
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proposinB that he would tear down $280,000 worth of park. Wouldn't it be
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simpler, and we would welcome his obtaining vacant land probably a hell of a
lot cheaper, and it wouldn't incur the wrath of some of these poor; people-,
There is'wrongs here. Nothing is cast in steae. I told this to the kids,
The Camillus House is an example of this. This wrong can be righted by you,
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and I want to thank you. And,if I could defer the balance of my time to Mr.
Cruz. Thank you very much.}'
Mayor Suarez: Mr. Cruz, this petition was gathered by you?
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Mayor Suarezi And the rest of the people that support that position. It 1w
hereby introduced into the record.
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Ke] le,r: Thank you very much.
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Mr.:,.Mariano Cruz: Mariano Cruz..; m name is Mariano Cruz, 1227 N.W. 26th
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Street, And I represent, elected representative by tnor:s than 400pe®pj.v with-,
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da- �cte agaiaast of my area there, one thing `z'd i ike to rsm nd tCity?
Man&$or that once we got a meeting with the board, and you told:,me, Coaar. �►t?L}
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members of the board, you are my eyes and tiara in the community. But in this
issue, you have me blind and deaf, because they don't know anything. Nothing r
at all about that, Because it was done very legally, 375 feet from the area.
But they never told me. Nothing at all. I knew from pat Keller that they
were going to do away from the park. Give me the book over here. The book
that cost a park them from second, third, and fourth year community '
development cost us first year, $47,941, $21,000 and fifty-six thousand.
Total amount, $125, 368. That's from 175, 176, 178. You know the coat of
living. You can't duplicate that for maybe $300,000. I am for day care and
for parks. Remember that the only person that come here year after year
lobbying for park, is me. When everybody lobbying for more police, I was here a
for more parks and all that. Now we have Victor on the Commission at least.
Then first, Mr. Dawkins, when the money from Bicentennial, dollar per dollar,
and we got something done. When monies were...
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Mayor .Suarez: Bayfront.
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Mr. Cruz: Yes, Bayfront. Well, but no, Bicenn... no, Bicentennial is the
money to operate the fountain, one dollar per dollar. Remember, I know, I was
here when that ... And when money was put on the Police Department and more
jails and the crime is still there. Statistics prove that nothing has been
done on the crime. Well, I went to the Ileana 3ffice. I went there with my
W-2 forms, W-2 form on my family. We made in my household, the Crux
household, $80,971.84. We pay ten thousand, eighty-nine, eighty-five, -
seventy-eight of federal taxes. I mean we pay very little in City taxes, but
look at the amount of federal taxes we pay. I resent, very much, the Cruz
household - my wife, my children - resent very much that $125,368 of federal
monies are going to be thrown down the drain because somebody wants to build a
day care there specifically. When you got land now, the Miami Bridge is
vacating the old motorcycle repair shop behind the municipal building and
going specifically, 1145 llth Street there. What you can have if they call
Allapattah, Wynwood, Moore Park got plenty of land there, which will be served
Wynwood. Because 16 and 16 is two miles away `rom Wynwood. That's not even
close to Wynwood. That's wrong. And anyway, ': start very early fi hting`for
the parks, because in '1983 I have to get a nonresident permit, the. Cityfof R
Hialeah, because my parks were closed. There was nothing in the parks in the
City of Miami. There was no program. I got to pay $100 to the City of
Hialeah right there, 183, under double taxation to be able to, have a park
where my children could practice gymnastics and go swimming and all of that. s t
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padlocked:"- No, because the money was going to the Police Department- or to
other departments. And...
.'` Vice Mayor Plummer: Do they still charge that? _
Mr. Cruz: Yes, I think. Not only I deliver the mail on Biscayne Park.
Vice Mayor Plummer: No, no. Does Hialeah still charge...
Mr. Cruz: Yes, nonresident.
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`,. Mr. Cruz:. My son goes there to play racquetball. He has to pay unless he: -get:,
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Mr. Cruz: Yes, I told them many times...a '
Commissioner Alonso: Very interesting.`'
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Mr. Cruz: (tight, Hialeah, all those people use our parka.
Mr. ddio: Keep talking, Mariano.
Mr, Cruz: You see that Friendship Park in Douglas Park? they used by thex
Coral Gables residents, They don't pay any taxes in the Cit of Miami. Then
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they use = they just cross Douglas and use a nice park. Right there, without;--
paying a penny to the City of Miami, And I got to pay $100 to the ,City of
Hialeah to be able to.., My boy goes in there to play racquetball, and he E
still have to pay that.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Thank you, sir. Thank you, sir. =
Commissioner Alonso: That's very nice.
Mr, Crurt Yes. I have told that before, but they don't pay attention. T
said it before. They don't pay attention.
Vice Mayor Plummer: How soon, Mr. Manager, will you bring us back a
recommendation on that?
Mr. Cruz: Right. Listen, I deliver the mail on Biscayne Park is the Fdberg —
Recreation Center there, residents only. And the police goes there and they
enforce it: They ask for ID, if you're using the park, yes. Residents only.
You go to...
Mayor Suarez: Mariano, the postmaster is calling;.
Mr. Cruz: You go to Miami Shores, and the same thing. } �'
Mayor Suarez: The postmaster just called me or Commissioner Dawkins' private;
phone...
Mr. Cruz: You< know, the postmaster, nothing he can do. to me, unless .-he t`
bulldoze North Miami. Because mine is a bid position on a national agreement.
Mayor Suarez: All ;right.
Mr. Cruz: There's nothing he can do to me. rr
Mayor Suarez: Then, let's leave...
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Vice Mayor Plummer: Yes, but also...
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Vice Mayor. Plummer: ...,forget about the postmaster. Your wife is also
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Mr. Cruzs Well, no, that's different. Well, now..
Commissioner Alonso: That's different..t
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Mr.,Cruz: And now, if worse comes to worse, now,thi$ is. Naw, listen.,. }
Vice Mayor Plummer: You got the wrong party, Mr. Mayor.,5
�h Mr, Cruzs .,.now, because now Z got the punch line. If worse come to worse,
Yt I. have a .very nice household here. We have a basketball pole, which is a
located 3060 S. Miami Avenue.
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Mr. Cruz Yea, but on the �l roadside there is a basketball pole which say
Villanova. I got a picture there, right there. That's your household, go,
if they don't play there because they're in Coconut Grove, people have the,..
Commissioner Alonsot You don't want to park your car over there.
Vice Mayor Plummeft Excuse one, were you there at 4t00 o'clock in the morning?
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Mr. Cruz: They go, They can go here to the Mayor's house,
Commissioner Alonsot You don't want to park your car. Y
Vice Mayor Plummer: Mariano, were you there at L•:00 o'clock in the morning?
Mayor Suarez: The President of the United States is now calling you, Mariano,
and your wife!
Mr. Cruz: Right here. That's a nice pole you got there. They can go and
play basketball.
Mayor Suarez: Yes, yes.
Commissioner Alonsos I don't think...
Vice Mayor Plummer: Did you hear any glass breaking? i
Mr. Cruz: Right there, your house.
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Commissioner Alonso: You don't want to park...
Vice Mayor-Plummert Would somebody go check his car and see if there's any —
blue lights on the dash?
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Mayor Suarez: These are very nice pictures of my home. Can I keep them? I'm
not giving them back till... get out of here.
Commissioner Alonso: Can he keep the pictures? Those are very nice.
Mayor Suarez: All right, let's go, finish up. Appreciate the pictures of _my
home.
Mr. Cruz: No, I give it to you. I got copies, the negative, remember.'
Commissioner Alonso: Well, the house is there.
Mrs Cruz: You got an -idea? Here, right there. The copies on :the negative.
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Mayor Suarez: The FBI is now calling you. They want to recruit you.
Mr.Cruz: Well, the only thing I say, please, we need the day care, : ,
.." especially now. You know what happened? I know I did some research. It's
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$29 million dollars coming federal money. Now everybody's concerned about the,
little children. Oh, yes, the 29 month $29 million dollars federal money��
coming. How everybody's concerned about the little children of the war,
Everybody now. The only thing I say one is, keep the day care and keep the
s playground for the children. Thank you vary much.4
Mayor Suarez: Thank you, Mariano. All right, irem 37,
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Commissioner Alonso: No, no...�'
Mayor Suarez: Oh, I'm sorry, we want to hear °rom you. If there's no motiO
of any sort on this item, the status quo is preserved, everything keeps moving
forward, So, you might want to wait to see if there's any Commissioner that's.
going to move...
`F .Toss M. Vila, Jr.: We gust want to make the Commission Pop that,.,
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Mayor Suarez: And you might lose a vote, so... Yes, all the people that are
on the opposite aide of the one presented so Eloquently by Mariano, if you
want to stand up.
Commissioner Alonso: They are in favor.
Mayor Suarez: Right, who are supporting day care center. If you want to have
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them stand up tell them, LOS QUR ESTAN A FAVOR DEL day care center. That's
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Vice Mayor Plummer: We got to stop busing people in.
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Mayor Suarez: All right. fi
Vice Mayor Plummer: Let me, just for the record, let me remind myself. Mr.
Manager, Mr. Manager, we put a provision in that agreement - remind me just so
these other people know - that there was to be open space left for the
basketball. Am I correct in that?
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Mr. Odio: No.
Mr. Cruz: No, they do away with the park.
Vice Mayor Plummer: No. What did we say about., they -would... that this would
be open to the public?
Mr. Odio: I don't...
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Mr. Vila% The facility itself...
Mr. Odio: The facility itself, yes.
Mr. Vila: ...will be open to the ' p public as is written, and the... there's no
roomforto put a.basketball court on it.
Commissioner De Yurre: J.L., what we talked about was to find suitable, a i
suitable lot, right around the vicinity...
Mr. Vila.- Correct.
Commissioner De Yurre: ....to build a basketball court, so thatthe kids is
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Mr. Cruz: No, no, no, build the daycare some place else.
Commissioner De Yurre: That is what we spoke about the last time this issue
came up.
Commissioner Alonso: By the way, for the recore, when was this park given to
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them for a day care? -what year it was?
Mr. Vila: Nineteen eighty-eight we came before the Commission and the
resolution is signed January 12,.1989. Two years.ago,
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Commissioner Alonso: I see.
Mr. Vila: Thank you.
Atr Vice Mayor Plummarc We: gave you in principle, we didn't give you the
property..
Mr. Vila; Yes. To find the funding, which we did.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Have you now got the funding from the state?�
= Mr. Vilas Yes, sir.
{. Commissioner Alonso; Yes.
Mr. Vi.las Yes, and from D40e County also.
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Mr. Vila: Yes, sir.
Mayor Suarez: OK. Anything also on item 36?
Mr. Vila: Thank you.
Mayor Suarez: If not, I will move on to item 37. The Consul General of Spain
does not seem to be here, But I guess we've go the second closest.
Commissioner Alonso: Yes, they are.
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.: Mayor Suarez: I still owe a visit, I owe a visit to that site. And I'm going
to do that soon, Mariano. Maybe I'll knock on your door.
Mr. Cruz: The only thing I can say, you got plenty of sites.
Mayor Suarez: Mariano, you've said everything, please, please. We've got to
go on to the next item.
Mr. Cruz: I know.
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49. ENDORSE CONSTRUCTION OF MONUMENT HONORING SPANISH NAVY IN BICENTENNIAL
PARK ON OCCASION OF QUINCENTENNIAL CELEBRATION OF DISCOVERY OF AMERICA
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Mayor Suarez: Sometimes we do things that arguably are not the ideal thing to
do. Rafael.
Mr. Rafael Penaluer: Thank you, counselor. I'm Rafael Penaluer, and I'm here
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on behalf of the Consul General of Spain.
Commissioner Dawkins: Move it.
Commissioner Alonso: Second.
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f Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded. Is it clear that there's no implication of
a any capital funding from the City for this?
Mr. Penaluer: That's a commitment. This is a project that's been put
together by. .
Nx, Mayor Suarez: The answer is yes, right?
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Mr. Penaluer: Yes.
Mayor Suarez: It's clear', yes. Thank you. w
Mr. Penaluer: Commitment from private citizens r-f Miami and the government of i
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Vice Mayor Plummer: Wait, hold on. This is going a little too fast for me.
Where is it proposed to go?
Mr. Penaluer: Proposed to go in Bicentennial Park right... "
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Mr. Penaluer: ...right across the slip there where the Pinta, the Nina, and,
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the Santa Maria will be, coming to Miami as the first port of call in the
Quincentennial Celebration. }
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� Mr. Penaluer: It will be approximately... monumentwill be about 55 by
It+s a email area for the monument itself, With a'surrounding gla. F�
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Commissioner be Yurre: See the beds and the sofa is here. it's right next
to...
Vice Mayor Plummer: is this the VIP up here?
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Commissioner De Yurrer Yes.
Mayor Suarez: We have a letter from assistant school superintendent in
support of it. I'd like to enter that into the record, Madam City Clerk,
I'll track it down. I'm not sure where it is right -now, Maybe. I think it
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was received today. Frank De Barona, you might tell him that he could do
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things with just a little bit more anticipation. It, of course, goes into the
history of Spanish naval superiority, et cetera.
Vice Mayor Plummer: How high will the monument be?
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itself. And then the monument that will be built in there, there's a proposal
but this is going to be worked in with the City of Miami planners, the park
planners, to make sure that all the regulations are complied with.
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Vice Mayor Plummer: But how high will the monument be proposed?
Mr. Jose Feito: It's about fifteen feet high.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Fifteen?
Mr. Feito: Fifteen.
Vice Mayor Plummer: One five.
Mayor Suarez: Put your name in the record, please so that we can...
Mr. Feito: My name is Jose Feito, 3663 S.W. 8th Street.
Mayor Suarez: OK.
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Mr. Feito: Well, basically it will be 15, Commissioner.
Mayor Suarez: That's not a high thing. OK, we have a motion and a second.
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The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Dawkins, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 91-299
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A RESOLUTION ENDORSING THE CONSTRUCTION OF A MONUMENT
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HONORING THE SPANISH NAVY ON OCCASION OF THE
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QUINCENTENNIAL CELEBRATION OF THE DISCOVERY OF AMERICA_
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AND DESIGNATING A SITE IN BICENTENN;AL PARK FOR SAID
MONUMENT.
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file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
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Upon being seconded by Commissioner Alonso, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Victor De Yurre
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins;
Commissioner
Miriam Alonso
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Vice Mayor J.
L. Plummer, Jr.
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Mayor Xavier
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NOBS: None.
ABSENT: None.
Mayor Suarez: Item 30.
1 think she left.
Mr. Penaluor: Thank you.
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Mayor Suarez: Item 39, Coconut Grove Chamber. They still here? Item 40,
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Mr. Odio: 'Thirty-nine with the..,
Mayor Suarez: OK. Possibly. They're not here anyhow. Item 40, Infants in
Need,
Mr. Odio: Thirty-nine is here?
Commissioner Alonso: Thirty-nine is here.
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NOTE FOR THE RECORD: At this point, agenda item 38
was called for discussion. The record was marked to
reflect no appearance by interested parties.
50. APPROVE REQUEST BY: INFANTS IN NEED, INC. / LINDA RAY CENTER FOR ABUSED
AND ABANDONED CHILDREN, FOR REIMBURSEMENT OF 1990 TAXES.
Mayor Suarez: Former City Attorney's in need.
Lucia Dougherty, Esq.: Mr. Mayor, members of the Commission, my name is Lucia
Dougherty, I'm a lawyer with law offices at 1221 Brickell Avenue. With me
today is Wendell Ray who is the president and founder of Infants in Need,
Inc., which is a nonprofit corporation dedicated to the caring of abused
children. It's an emergency shelter. We purchased two pieces of property
which were formerly crack houses and converted them into this shelter.
Infants in Need did not know that they had to file their exemption for ad
valorem taxes on March of this year. We're asking that... we've paid the
taxes. We're asking for a return of the tax money in the same amount of money
that we've already paid.
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Mr. Odio: We recommend it provided it's on a reimbursement basis. Once they
pay the taxes to the County, then...
Ms. Dougherty: We've already paid the taxes.
Mr. , Odio: OK.
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Vice Mayor Plummer: Move it.
Mayor Suarez: Moved. _
Commissioner Alonso: I second.
Mayor Suarez: Seconded. Any discussion? If not, please call the roll.
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RESOLUTION N0. 91-300
A RESOLUTION RECOGNIZING THE TAX-EXEt1T STATUS CLAIMED
BY INFANTS IN NEED, INC., A CHARITABLE ORGANIZATION,
IN SUPPORT OF ITS REQUEST FOR RETURN OF MONIES TO BE
PAID BY IT BECAUSE OF ITS FAILURE TO FILE APPLICATIONS
FOR TAX-EXEMPT STATUS OF PROPERTY LOCATED WITHIN THE
CITY OF MIAMI; AUTHORIZING AND INSTkUCTING THE FINANCE
DIRECTOR TO REIMBURSE SAID ORGANIZATION THE AMOUNT OF
$3,562.16, SAID SUM BEING CONFIRMED AS THE AMOUNT TO
BE RECEIVED BY THE CITY AS A RESULT OF THE
ORGANIZATION'S NONCOMPLIANCE WITH THE FILING
REQUIREMENT; FURTHER DESIGNATING PROPERTY TAXES
ACCOUNTS IN THE GENERAL FUND AND GENERAL OBLIGATION
DEBT SERVICE FUND AS THE FUNDING SOURCE FOR SUCH
REIMBURSEMENT.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Commissioner Alonso, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Victor De Yurre
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Miriam Alonso
Vice Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
COMMENTS MADE DURING ROLL CALL:
Mr. Jorge Fernandez: To clarify - excuse me - to clarify the record, what
you're doing is, you're passing a resolution authorizing the refund of that
which they have already paid. -
Mayor Suarez: Thank you, Mr. City Attorney. l
Mr. Odio: Yes.
COMMENTS MADE FOLLOWING ROLL CALL:
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51. APPROVE, IN PRINCIPLE, CONCEPTUAL MASTER PLAN FOR PROPOSED RENOVATION OF
PEACOCK PARK AS PRESENTED BY COCONUT GROVE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE -
ALLOCATE $15,000 FROM COCONUT GROVE SPECIA% EVENTS DISTRICT FUND.
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Mayor Suarez: Item 39. I skipped you thinking you weren't here. I didn'tr.
see Tricia, right? -the executive director.
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Mayor Suarez: All right, we've go the chairman.
Mr. Howard Huntsberry: She got tired, and went home.
This is a plan of
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Mayor Suarez: There's no indication by this that we have
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Mr. Huntsberry: I know the preference that you t11 have, but I'm here anyhow.
This is a plan for the renovation...
Mayor Suarez: What do you need from us today? It looks very nice. What do
you need from us?
i Mr. Huntsberryt We have a certain amount of money that we have collected and
. we need an additional $15,000 released from the festival committee.
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?' sort of adoption of the park, et cetera?
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Mr. Alberto Ruder: Yes, yes we do.
Mayor Suarez: What is your total contribution?
Mr. Huntsberry: The total contribution from the Coconut Grove Arts Festival,
the Jaycees, several of the festivals that the Coconut Grove Chamber of
Commerce operates, is $69,000.
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Commissioner Alonso: OK, I so move.
Mayor Suarez: Moved. It's beautiful. Do we have a second?
i Commissioner Alonso: No one wants the park.
FMayor Suarez: Commissioner De Yurre seconds. I assume that smile on his fade
is close enough to a second. Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Alonso, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 91-301
A RESOLUTION APPROVING, IN PRINCIPLE, THE CONCEPTUAL
MASTER PLAN FOR THE PROPOSED RENOVATION OF PEACOCK
PARK AS PREPARED BY THE PARKS AND RECREATION
DEPARTMENT AND PRESENTED BY THE COCONUT GROVE CHAMBER
OF COMMERCE; FURTHER APPROVING THE ALLOCATION OF AN
AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $15,000 FR0M THE COCONUT ,GROVE
' SPECIAL EVENTS DISTRICT FUND IN SUPPORT OF SAID
PROJECT.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
" Upon being seconded by Commissioner De Yu. —re, the resolution was passed r�t�
and adopted by the following votes i
AYESs Commissioner Victor De Yurre w
Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins ;
Commissioner Miriam Alonso ,
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
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TO REQUEST FUNDS FOR AIDS AWARENESS CONFERENCE:
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Mayor Suarez: Item 41. Reverend.
Reverend John Hoskins: To the Honorable Mayor and the Honorable Commission,
my name is Reverend John Hoskins. I'm the associate minister at New Life
Temple located 2075 N.W. 75th Street, and the director of project Aids
Awareness. Your honors, we are asking that a motion be authorizing the
director of finance to make a check for $22,000 to projects Aids Awareness to
sponsor a conference... _
Commissioner Dawkins: For what?
Rev. Hoskins: ...May 13, 1991. Let me make my... and the purpose of our
conference is en...
Mayor Suarez: We do want to facilitate the conference, but I thought that
basically you just needed support and facilitation, not actual out-of-pocket
cash of the green type stuff.
Rev. Hoskins: We need the green stuff...
Mayor Suarez: Can we suggest that you seek a waiver of rental for some
facility. They're not using any of our facilities. Why not?
Mr. Odio: They are using Caleb Center and then they're going to the Port of
Miami.
Rev. Hoskins: To the Port of Miami.
Commissioner Alonso: Dade County.
Mr. Odio: So they should go to the County, and c.sk them...
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Rev., Hoskins: Well, we are discussing that with the Commissioner.
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gathering and how about the, as a... How many people are expected to attend?
Rev. Hoskins: We are expecting 300 pastors at the conference, and we're
`. expecting 1,500 people at the Port of Miami. We need some assistance for the
:. indigent pastors. You know, those who are unable to pay the conference cost.
And we're also inviting the entire City of Miami to be at the dinner at the
Port of Miami.there, Mayor and Commissioners.
Mayor Suarez: We hope to be there.
Mr. Odio: I also would like - I'm sorry, Reverend - that this is a for profit
organization.
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Mr. Odio: Yes, yes.
Rev. Hoskins:
I'm not for profit. I am...
Mr. Odio: But,
he is.
Rev. Hoskins:
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He is a consultant. In other
words, they are the medical experts to help
with the, with Dr. Fishel And all ;
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Aids Awareness, nonprofit organization, 501C3. And we would use that to pay
for the expenses of indigent pastors. Now, we would like you to determine how
many indigent pastors you would be pleased to sponsor. I'm pleading with you
to sponsor some in terms of finance, You have helped us a great deal, Mayor
Suarez, and we don't want to, and, you know, to wear that thin. We have
received a tremendous amount of...
Mayor Suarez: You know, on a private basis, you can _be assured of additional
help, Who knows that we can't find some private funds, The City.., what's
the recommendation on funding?
Mr. Odio: No, sir. No funding.
Mayor Suarez: I don't know that the Greater Miami Convention & Visitors
Bureau...
Rev. Hoskins: How much funding? How much funding?
Vice Mayor Plummer: I think it should be stated by the Manager, there is no
funding available.
Mr. Odio: OK, no funding available.
Rev. Hoskins: No funding available. Now, the question is how much can we get
from each Commissioner for indigent pastors?
Mayor Suarez: From each Commissioner?
Rev, Hoskins: We're talking about... this is a conference on Aids Awareness.
Now we ought to know that...
Mayor Suarez: Reverend, that's usually done in private with each
Commissioner, not necessarily out here.
Rev. Hoskins: OK, OK, OK... All right, privately. But basically, you know
we have the highest incidence of Aids in Dade County, number seven in the
nation among African Americans. And we're saying that the African American
paths going to come together and collectively come to grip with some
preventive logistics. We really need you to help us with some money. Now,
I'm very bold in saying $22,000 because that would put us across the board.
But certainly, this board can do something.
Mayor Suarez: OK, thank you for your presentation. Unless there's any
motion, we're going to go on to the next item. Again, privately, you can
continue to count on the support of my office to try to find as many funds
from the private sector as possible, including I suppose, from any and all
personal funds that may be available.
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(See label 9),
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Commissioner Dawkins: Mr. Mayor, I had a resolution this morning, I'd like to
move it how please.
Mayor Suarez: Commissioner Dawkins.
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Commissioner Dawkins: A resolution... would you read the resolution, Mr...?
Mr. Fernandez: Yes. A resolution supporting the creation and designation of
a department of elderly affairs as the State's administrative unit on aging
for the State of Florida, further directing the City Clerk to transmit a copy
of this resolution to the herein named officials
Commissioner Dawkins: The Governor of the State of Florida.
Mayor Suarez: Call the roll. Do we have a motion and a second?
Commissioner Dawkins: I move it.
Commissioner Alonso: Yes, second.
Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded by Commissioner Alonso. Any discussion? If
not, please call the roll.
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RESOLUT]
A RESOLUTION SUPPORTING
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Commissioner Miriam Alon
Vice Mayor J. L. Plummer
Mayor Xavier:L. Suarez
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54, GRANT R9QUEST BY 11T14 NATIONAL VETERANS WHEELCHAIR GAMES FOR CLOSURE OF
DESIGNATED STREETS CONCERNING THEIR OPENING CEREMONIES PARADE.
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Suarezt Item 42. Eleventh National Veterans Wheelchair Games.
Commissioner Alonso: I move. No funding for this, just close... s
Mr. Odio: We are recommending the street closures of Biscayne Boulevard from t
Chopin Plaza to the NE 1st Street, for the opening ceremonies only. That _
would be from 6:00 p.m. to 7:00 p.m.
Mayor Suarezt One hour of closure on the day ir, question is recommended, and
it seems acceptable. Any discussion? If not, I'll entertain a motion.
Vice Mayor Plummer: They will he paying for all of the police and the
liability?
Mr. Odio: Yes. That's their problem.
Vice Mayor Plummer: OK. Move it.
Commissioner Alonso: I already moved it.
Mr. Michael J. Ward: I've got a couple other items with that.
Mayor Suarez,. All right, we will try them, but let's try to do the street
closure and at least, we'll get that out of the way.
Mr. Ward: OK. Also, we need...
Mayor Suarezt Wait, wait. Moved. Is it second? Seconded by Commissioner De
Yurre.
Commissioner Alonsot I already moved and he seconded. {
Mayor Suarez: Call the roll.
Commissioner Alonso: No, no, we already did.
Mayor Suarez: Ohl Thanks.
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RESOLUTION NO. 91-303
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CLOSURE OF DESIGNATED
STREETS TO THROUGH VEHICULAR TRAFFIC DURING THE 11TH
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NATIONAL VETERANS WHEELCHAIR GAMES PARADE AS PART OF
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THE OPENING CEREMONIES AT BAYFRONT PARK TO BE
CONDUCTED ON TUESDAY, JUNE 11,1991, BY THE VETERANS
AFFAIRS, WASHINGTON, D.C., VA MEDICAL CENTER, MIAMI,
FLORIDA, AND THE PARALYZED VETERANS OF AMERICA,
SUBJECT TO STATE APPROVAL AND THE ISSUANCE OF PERMITS
BY THE DEPARTMENTS OF POLICE AND FIRE, RESCUE AND
INSPECTION SERVICES.
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Commissioner Miriam Alonso
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Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
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ABSENTt None.
COMMENTS MADE AFTER ROLL CALLS
Mayor Suarez: You are doing reasonably well. If you want to try something
else, go home with something other than a resounding yes, go ahead.
Mr. Wards Yes. We needed an on -duty fire rescue unit at Bayfront Park for
the ceremony and reception. This is June 11th from 5:00 p.m. to 10s00 p.m.
We have already submitted to Chief Duke for this.
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Mayor Suarers Well, maybe he can figure out a way why this deployment would
make sense on duty, but I... otherwise, we cannot fund it. The alternative I
suppose, is through volunteers.
Vice Mayor Plummers Well, no. The alternative is, they can have it, but they
pay for it.
Mayor Suarez% Well of course. There is always that alternative.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Yes.
Mr. Ward: OK.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Well, we have...
Mayor Suarez% He always bring me back to that painful alternative of paying.
Mr. Ward: OK. The other thing that I have is, the ceremonial reception will
cost eighteen thousand dollars ($18,000). Two thousand three hundred dollars
($2,300) of which will go to the City of Miami and Bayfront Park for services.
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We would appreciate any help the City of Miami might...
Mayor Suarez: Sometimes, we waive the cost of the use of the park.
Mr. Odio: They did. It has been waived.
Mayor Suarez: That's been waived. There is nothing else that I can imagine
that we could possibly do. Sometimes if you deposit your own money - I'm
sorry, if you deposit sufficient monies in a fund, and do your own cleanup, we
waive the cleanup cost, Solid Waste.
Vice Mayor Plummer: But that's not within the prerogative of this Commission
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Mayor Suarez; You have to go to the...
Vice Mayor Plummer: They have done everything the can. They have waived the
rental..
Mayor Suarez: That's it. Best we can do.
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National Veterans Wheelchair Games. And on behalf of all the disabled
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how much we support your - we appreciate your support and cooperation. And
thank you very much.
Mayor Suarez: Is... all right, thank you.
Vice Mayor Plummer% Wait minute, You know, i think we need to bank u on
this, This in a hell of a way to tell the veterans of this.., I think we nest
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Vice Mayor Plummer: I mean, how do we go about on the 4th of July to.tell the
people of the armed forces, we love them for what they did in Desert Storm,
and here are these guys, are guys in a wheelchair, and we are not going to do
a darn thing for.., no, I can't...
Mayor Suarez: His cheapskate rating is just goirg down very quickly.
Vice Mayor Plummers No, no, hold on.
Mayor Suarers His generosity is coming up very, very inspiring.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Yes, you know, I guess it -;as too fast. We were on our
standard rubber stamp no. How much...?
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Mayor Suarez: We will take care of that. WE will try to do it somehow on
duty, if there is any way to do it.
Vice Mayor Plummer: You will take care of the rescue?
Unidentified Speaker: Yes.
Vice Mayor Plummer: All right. I'll tell you what.
Mayor Suarez: I had a feeling maybe that could be done.
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ahead.
Mr. Shamlin: Again, it's during the week of June llth to the 15th.
Vice Mayor Plummer: You remind me at the next bayfront Park Trust meeting, to
go in and whittle at them.
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Mayor Suarez: You're going to have to attend one more meeting.
Vice Mayor Plummer: You're better off than before.
Commissioner Alonso: Yes.
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longer.
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56, GRANT REQUEST BY MIAMI / BAHAMAS GODMSAY FESTIVAL IN COCONUT GROVE, INC.
FOR FEE WAIVERS AND CLOSURE OF DESIGNATED STREETS CONCERNING THE GOOMDAY
FESTIVAL - RESTRICT RETAIL PEDDLERS AND PERMIT SALE OF ALCOHOL.
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Mayor Suarez. Item 43. Goombay.
Mr. Odio: Sir, they would like the street closure.
Commissioner Alonso: Weren't they excused?
Mayor Suarez: We have had all the roles here today.
Mr. Odio: Grand Avenue, from...
Commissioner Dawkins: I move that we...
Vice Mayor Plummer: Second.
Commissioner Dawkins: ... close the streets, and give them a two day permit
to sell alcoholic and beverages.
Vice Mayor Plummer: All right. I only have one question. Billy.
Mr. Billy Rolle: Thank you, Mayor, and the Commissioner.
Vice Mayor Plummer: No, I've got a question.
Mr. Rolle: Yes, Commissioner Plummer.
Vice Mayor Plummer: You're not going to go down Douglas Road with it?
Mr. Rolle: No. We aren't going that way this time.
Mr. Odio: No, but we need to put on the record, the streets. It's Grand
Avenue, from Douglas Road to Matilda.
Vice Mayor Plummer: To Matilda?
Mr. Odio: Matilda. I'll tell you why they... Commodore Plaza, from Grand
Avenue to Main Highway. Then they need a restriction of peddlers, a two day
beer and wine permit, and the waiver of applicable City fees, permits and
rentals which we recommend.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Yes, but wait a minute. Billy, you're talking about all
of Commodore to Main.
Mr. Rolle: We are going to use Commodore Plaza.
Vice Mayor Plummer: No, no, no. You are talking about Commodore Plaza to
Main? Is that what I understood?
Mr. Odio: Yes, that's what I have here. Grand Avenue...
Mr. Rolle: So that cars don't come down from Main down to Grand Avenue.
Mr. Odio: It's from Commodore Plaza.
Vice Mayor Plummer: And you are going to cut it off at Matilda?
Mr. Odio: Right.
Mr. Rolle: No, no.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Do you know what you are talking about in police?T,_
Mr,, Rolle; No, we are starting from Matilda to Douglas.
Plaza is from Grand to Main, so no cars will come in.
pedestrian traffic.
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Vice Mayor Plummer: The merchants are going to scream. Now, let me tell you
what else, just so that this Commission knows, Mr. Dawkins.
Mr. Rolle! That's up to... Commissioner.
Vice Mayor Plummer: The Festival Committee, once you cross 32nd Avenue, you
are in to the twenty-five percent, and the cost factor. So I just want you to
be aware that if you cross 32nd Avenue, because we excluded west of 32nd
Avenue for a reason.
Mr. Odio: But they...
Vice Mayor Plummer: You. OK? fi=:
Mr. Odio: But they would like to be excluded permanently from that k
surcharge - that impact fee.
Vice Mayor Plummer: When they came before the festival committee, it was with
the understanding, the festival existed west of 32, and for that reason, we
described the boundary as 32nd Avenue. As the ordinance exists today, if you
come east of that avenue, you are in fact, going to have to pay the City cost,
and the twenty-five percent gross.
Mr. Rolle: We are asking for that to be waived and...
Vice Mayor Plummer: You can't.
Mr. Rolle: Susan went to a meeting last night, and she can tell you what
happened there.
Mr. Castaneda: Yes, Commissioner.
Mr. Rolle: We don't want to segregate this festival.
Vice Mayor Plummer: You can't waive it.
Mr. Rolle: Because really, believe it or not, some people still don't come
down past McDonald.
Vice Mayor Plummer: It is?
Mr. Castaneda: Yes, you can waive the days.
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Commissioner Dawkins: But you see Billy, when you say, you don't want to
segregate it, and you don't want to pay, you've already segregated it.
Mr. Rolle: No, no. I don't want to...
Commissioner Dawkins: So if you are going to segregate... you know - so don't
tell me, don't segregate you know, if you going to go and segregate, then
you're going to pay like everybody else.
Mr. Rolle: Well, we don't mind that.
Commissioner Dawkins: If you don't want to pay, then you've set up a
segregation.
Mr. Rolle: That's out of context. We are trying to say...
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Mr, Rolle: If you want us to stay in the Black area, tell us now, we wouldn't
come up. If you want to make it grow west...
Vice Mayor Plummer: No, no, no. Wait a minute,
Commissioner Dawkins:
No, you see, that's unfair Billy, that's very unfair.
Commissioner Alonso: No.
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public hearings, that if we drew the boundary line at 32nd Avenue, that you
folks would be satisfied. And that is what we did.
Mr. Rolle: too.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Hey, don't use that word "you folks" that's short for
"you naggers.""
Mr. Rolle: No, I didn't say that.
Commissioner Dawkins: Don't use that word "you folks."
Mr. Rolle: Susan will tell you what happened in the meeting last time, and
I'll come back.
Vice Mayor Plummer: The people of the festival told the committee.
Commissioner Dawkins: That's better. That's much better.
Vice Mayor Plummer: That if we drew the boundary line at 32, that there would
no problem. Now, I am telling you...
Mr. Castaneda: Commissioner, let me report what happened at the Festival
Committee meeting last night.
Mayor Suarez: You may excise this entire section of the transcript as being,
pretty preposterous. Yes, Frank.
Mr. Castaneda: The committee did meet with Coconut Grove Goombay last night,
and they voted to approve a waiver this year. They recommend a waiver this
year, but to ask Goombay to retreat outside of their zone for the following
year. They understand that it's impossible to do that this particular year...
Vice Mayor Plummer: Here comes the Groveites.
Mr. Castaneda: ... but they would recommend that action.
Vice Mayor Plummer: You're tying up the entire Grove.
Ms. Susan Neuman: That block is already sold.
Commissioner Dawkins: I need a clarification before you start. OK?
Ms. Neuman: Certainly.
Commissioner Dawkins: For the record. Isn't anybody on this Commission who
ever thought of, or entertained any thoughts of keeping Black people below
32nd Avenue? Is it...? OK. For the records, let it reflect that none of us
uphere entertained such a thought. And let the records reflect that that
statement was made by Mr. Billy Jalle, and not by nobody on this Commission.
OK.
Mr. Rolle: It's OK. That's clear.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Well, hey, all I can tell you is...
Mr. Rolle: But this is what I am hearing. The person here.
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Vice Mayor Plummer: See, look Billy, here is the problem. We put in a
Festival Committee, OK? And that was so that the people of Coconut Grove can
enjoy the peace and tranquility of the Grove. Now here, when you go and
extend on those particular boundaries, you have comipletely disrupted the
traffic in the Grove. And they are going to come in here screaming again.
They came in here screaming about the basketball hoops, and they are still
screaming about it. And why did we go with the Festival Committee, Mr. Mayor?
I guess it's...
Mr. Rolle: Mayor, Commissioner Plummer.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Sir.
Mr. Rolle: We did not draw up those boundaries for the Festival Committee.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Yes, you did, sir.
Mr. Rolle: No, we didn't.
Vice Mayor Plummer: You came before... not, you personally.
Mr. Rolle: We wouldn't go on to Matilda for the last twelve years.
Mayor Suarez: He went to sleep one night, he woke up in the morning, he had
dreamt them.
Mr. Rolle: We didn't start going there... we were going there for the last
twelve years. Now whoever drew the boundaries to put us in that one block,
then that's not our fault.
Mayor Suarez: Whatever makes sense at this point, Commissioners.
Mr. Odio: I would recommend...
Ms. Neuman: Mr. Mayor.
Mr. Odio: ... we waive it like they waived it last night for this year, and
let's work it out.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Fine with me.
Mayor Suarez: OK. And understanding that, it's the last year for the waiver.
So moved.
Ms. Neuman: OK.
Vice Mayor Plummer: All right. So you are going to close Grand to Matilda,
and you are going to close Commodore to traffic. Is that correct?
Mr. Castaneda: Yes.
Ms. Neuman: That's the same as every year. There is no change.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Hold on. The merchants are going to scream, everybody is
going to scream. But I am voting for you. OK.
Mayor Suarez: OK. So moved.
Ms. Neuman: You know, when the ordinance was brought up back in September, it
x` was pointed out that Goombay was in that area, and we were told it was exempt.
Mayor Suarez: All right. And if not exempt, at least, we sort of at least
grandfathered in. OK. We have a motion from Vice Mayor Plummer, so he can T
a' take the heat with.the Festival Committee.
` Vice Mayor Plummer: Thank you.
Mayor Suarez: Second by Commissioner Alonso. Any discussion? If not, please
call the roll.
Mr. Fernandez: I need clarification Mr. Mayor.
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Mayor Suarez:
I was afraid of that.
Mr, Fernandez:
Street closure, two days alcohol,
restriction of peddler,
and
waiver of any
fees? - or no waiver of fees?
Mayor Suarez:
It's included, I think. You just
said it's included for
one
year.
Mr. Fernandez:
Right. That's clear now.
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Mayor Suarez:
roll then.
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And they have total self reliance. All right? No?
Vice Mayor Plummer, 'That's a waiver of peddlers for two block? Is that what
it is?
Mr. Odio: Yes, sir.
Commissioner Alonso: Yes.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Two blocks on each side?
Mayor Suarez: Call the roll, if it's understood by the Manager.
The fallowing resolution was introduced by Vice Mayor Plummer, who moved
its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 91-304
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A RESOLUTION RELATED TO THE 1991 MIAHI/BAHAMAS GOOMBAY
FESTIVAL TO BE HELD JUNE 7, 8 AND 9, 1991, GRANTING
THE REQUEST FOR A WAIVER OF THE REQUIREMENT OF
ORDINANCE NO. 10764 THAT THE PROMOTER OF THE EVENT PAY
TO THE CITY A SUPPLEMENTARY USER FEE OF TWENTY-FIVE
S MATED COST OF CITY SERVICES FOR
PERCENT OF THE E TI
SAID EVENT IN THE COCONUT GROVE SPECIAL EVENTS
DISTRICT; WAIVING THE REQUIREMENT THAT THE ORGANIZERS
PAY ALL APPLICABLE CITY FEES; AUTHORIZING THE CLOSURE
OF DESIGNATED STREETS TO THROUGH VEHICULAR TRAFFIC,
SUBJECT TO THE ISSUANCE OF PERMITS ICY THE DEPARTMENTS
OF POLICE AND FIRE, RESCUE AND INSPECTION SERVICES;
AUTHORIZING A TWO-DAY PERMIT TO THE ORGANIZERS TO SELL
BEER AND WINE IN CONNECTION WITH SAID EVENT, SUBJECT
TO THE ISSUANCE OF ALL PERMITS REQUIRED BY LAW;
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FURTHER ESTABLISHING AN AREA PROHIBITED TO RETAIL
PEDDLERS DURING THE PERIOD OF THg EVENT; FURTHER
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CONDITIONING ALL APPROVALS AND AUTHORIZATIONS HEREIN
UPON THE ORGANIZERS PAYING FOR ALL NECESSARY COSTS OF
CITY SERVICES ASSOCIATED WITH SAID EVENT AND OBTAINING
INSURANCE TO PROTECT THE CITY IN THS AMOUNT AS
PRESCRIBED BY THE CITY MANAGER OR HIS DESIGNEE.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon
being seconded by Commissioner Alonso, the resolution was passed
and adopted
by the following vote:
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Commissioner Victor De Yurre
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Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Miriam Alonso
Vice Mayor J. L.--.Plummer, Jr..
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56. GRANT REQUEST BY MIAMI LOVING MIAMI, INC. FOR FEE WAIVER (INCLUDING USE
OF BAYFRONT PARK PEPPER FOUNTAIN) AND PARTIAL USE OF STREETS CONCERNING
THE UNITY BIKE-A-THON.
Mayor Suarez: Item forty-four. Miami Loving Miami. You know, I think you
are bigger than my youngest brother who is six five, and two ninety-five.
Although sometimes, at the end of the weekend, he is six five and three o
five. Yes, sir.
Mr. Walter Sutton Jr.: Good evening, your Honorable Mayor, and Honorable
Commission. My name is Walter Sutton Jr., and I am chairman of an
organization called Miami Loving Miami. Our address is 5400 NW 22nd Avenue at
the Caleb Center. And I am here because we started an organization that's
multi -ethnic and nonprofit for one main reason, and that is trying to promote
some lasting community unity in our neighborhoc-is. We are...
Mayor Suarez: Where would the Bikeathon be?
Mr. .Sutton Jr.: It's going to be May llth, and it's going to be beginning at
Bayfront fountain. What makes it very unique, is that we are going to go
through twelve communities that are usually covered in the national,
international local media. But the difference this time, they will be
covering it, because we are riding for unity. I am here to ask elected
officials to ride with us, to support us, and mi.ke this a very epic, unifying
event. And it can happen if I have the support of the Commission, the Mayor,
and local community leaders.
Mayor Suarez: Have you seen the layout, Mr. Manager, of the proposed
Bikeathon? It has not been shown to you. You went to...?
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Mr. Sutton Jr.: Yes, I have a route that I submitted to the Police Department
of it s staff of...
Mayor Suarez: Is this recommended as to the...?
Mr. Odio: I will recommend the endorsement...
Mayor Suarez: Does it require any... I guess, it wouldn't be any closures,
it's :more like a... `
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Mr. Odio: It's not a closure.
Mr. Sutton Jr.: Right.
,. Mr. Odio: They only need partial and temporary street uses in certain
neighborhoods, and I don't have that. And only Biscayne Boulevard, part of...
Mayor Suarez: Yes, but this doesn't look- like waiver of fee here.
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Commissioner Alonso is showing me the budget for the event. We are :not into
budgets for events.
Mr. Odio: No I am not talking about monies waver.
Mayor Suarez: Right, so don't even propose that. What fees are you talking
about waiving?
Commissioner Alonso: Is that what he is asking?
f Mac. Sutton Jr.r Do you want me to answer about -,,-he route part first?
Mayor,Suarez: Yes. Except that if all this is premised on the City having to F
lay,out some funds for the actual happening, I don't know that you ought to,go
_;. much:farthw'r than that. We don't have the money for that,
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Vice .Mayor Plum►ner: No, He wants in kind on police, fire, and s$aaitatis�n,
He doesn't have a route.
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Mayor Suarez: Don't have a route,
Mr. Sutton Jr.: Yes, OR.
Mayor Suarez: Maybe, your beat bet is to try to have the item heard on the
2Sth, and meeting with the Manager, and working cut your route. We don't have a
money.
Mr. Sutton Jr.: Sir, the route has already
Miami Police Department.
Commissioner Alonso: Off -duty?
Mr. Odio:
Joe has.
been laid out and approved the
The off -duty officers did meet with him. I have not seen it, and
Lt. Longueira: Mr. Mayor, I...
Mr. Sutton Jr.: Excuse me.
Mr. Odio: But we understand that...
Mayor Suarez: Wait, wait, wait. Maybe, we can cut through this.
Mr. Odio: ... they have no problem with the layout.
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Mayor Suarez: No problem with the layout? -
Mr. Odio: Right.
Lt. Longueira: We met with him, no problem.
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Mayor Suarez: And when he told you about waiver of fees, there has been an
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estimate already given of what kind of police?
Mr. Odio: It's not the... the police off -duty...
Mayor Suarez: What is it then, if not police?
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Mr. Odio: The police off -duty is one thousand and thirty dollars ($1,030)
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that they need.
Mayor Suarez: Right.
Mr. Sutton Jr.: There is also fire,-
Mr. Odio: The total budget that they have to pay, is nineteen hundred and
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thirty dollars ($1,930).
Mr. Sutton Jr.: But we asked also for a waiver cif the fire rescue unit. That
was also in the proposal which I sent to Chief Duke also. And as I said, we
are going with motor officers that will.not be blocking streets on a_regular
basis. They are going to use the system of „blocking, and we all going in..a
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bubble. Yes. I hate to use that connotation as an ex police like myself, but
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rather than this being a funeral, this is going...
May Suarez: One of the Commissioners up likes it all the time.
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Mr, Sutton Jr.: OK, This is a positive unifying event that this community
needs, and I understand that we all have budgets and cutbacks, but we also
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have an awful lot of diversity, if the Commission could just boar with me for.�`
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sixty seconds and visualize a chance to turn on local and national television,
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and for a change, Miami being depicted something positiveof having Mayo..
Suarez, the Commission, celebrities, corporate executives, police office, on.
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cpllase students, riding on bicycles through communities that were just
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reces'tly ndpatively depicted, thatin itself is an effort. Now, we hove
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salsoted a route that specifically goes thrc ugh - starting at Dayfront
untain down, Fi.agler to NW 2nd Avenue, pass the police station - straight up
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The second spot ot would be 2nd Avenue, through W nwood, Little ia�iti,
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e�nd.etpping at ",bind Street, at �fcArnelds, which is serving .xofratu+aapt•
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Avenue. Go south to Civic Center, straight into Little Havana, and our next
stop is at the Mcnonalds at 8th Avenue SW and 14th. At which time we will be
entertained by a radio station, kitmo - for out Latin community to interact.
From which point, we get back on the bicycles, somewhat exhausted, go through
Brickell Avenue and return to Bayfront fountain. What we have here, is a
unity Bikeathon, not a festival, not a race, but something that Miami can be
proud of and get involved in.
Mr. Odio: What I may try to do, just to get off the.,.
Vice Mayor Plummer: One rescue is not enough.
Mayor Suarez: Commission De Yurre accepts the invitation. He is ready to
ride the whole thing, and...
Mr, Odio: I'll go.
Mayor Suarez: The Manger is going too, he is going to roll the whole trip.
Mr. Odio: No, no. But I'll see if I can get the Chief to come up with on -
duty motorcycles. OK?
Mayor Suarez: Let's try for that. We are going to try and provide some on -
duty motorcycles.
Mr. Odio: The other expenses you have is Bayfr,nt Park Trust. The fountain
rental of the Bayfront Park fountain.
Mr. Sutton Jr.: Yes, we are starting at the fountain, rather than the actual
park.
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Mayor Suarez: Yes, yes. We are going to try and solve thing, rather than
discuss them here.
Mr. Odio: That's nine hundred dollars ($900).
Mayor Suarez: That's his committee here on the left, and he sounds impressed
by this whole idea, but... Is it too late for you guys to even contemplate
this?
Mr. Odio: No. We'll see how many people he got, and then.
Vice Mayor Plummer: I don't know. What's the nine hundred for?
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Mr. Odio: The rental of Bayfront Park fountair:. One hundred dollars. I
didn't know they rented the fountain, but.
Mr. Sutton Jr.: That's where we are going to begin at. We are going to begin
at the fountain.
Vice Mayor Plummer; We will rent anything trying to make money.
Mayor Suarez: I will entertain a motion that we waive the rental of the
fountain for this event, and anything else that looks interesting at all,;
because what's there now, does not.
Vice Mayor Plummer: As long as they indemnify us with insurance against
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liability.
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Mr. Sutton Jr.: Yes.
I spoke to Mr. Perez and g
p , your .insurance Risk Manager.
Vice Mayor Plummer: He
has nothing to-do with the authority,
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imagine you doing any danage to
that fountain, but who ;J A
knows,
Commissioner'Alonsoc For insurance, he says,
le* Odio; We are going
to ride around the fountain,
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Mr, Sutton Jr.: Yes, I was advised by the Risk Management people that this is �
what will be required, —
Mayor Suarez: Yes, the insurance policy for the event will probably be.,.
Mr. Sutton Jr.: Before we are able to actually begin, that will have to be in
place. One million.
Mayor Suarez: Right. Exactly. So that would include the fountain. That
probably will be the lowest portion of the cost, because I can't imagine doing
much harm over there, Unless you fall into the fountain. Make sure, nobody
tries that. All right. I'll entertain a motion on that.
Commissioner Alonso: Yes. I so move.
Mr. Sutton Jr.: Could I ask one question before you have...?
Mayor Suarez: Wait. But we are doing well, we are doing well here.
Mr. Odio: You're ahead.
Mr. Sutton Jr.: Oh, I'm sorry. Excuse me your honor.
Mayor Suarez: We've got a motion by Commissioner Alonso, smiling and
everything, and Vice Mayor Plummer, just pulled the cigarette out his mouth -
I take that to be a second. Call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Alonso, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 91-305
A RESOLUTION RELATED TO THE MIAMI LOVING MIAMI UNITY
BIKE-A-THON SCHEDULED FOR MAY 11, 1991 FROM 10:00 A.M
TO 2:00 P.M.; ENDORSING SAID EVENT AND APPROVING THE
PARTIAL AND TEMPORARY USE OF CERTAIN STREETS AND
THOROUGHFARES IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE ROUTE APPROVED BY.
THE POLICE DEPARTMENT; SUBJECT TO THE ISSUANCE OF
PERMITS BY THE DEPARTMENTS OF POLICE AND FIRE, RESCUE
AND INSPECTION SERVICES; AUTHORIZING THE POLICE`
DEPARTMENT TO CONTROL TRAFFIC FLOW ON THE STREETS TO
BE UTILIZED AS PART OF THE BIKE-A-THON; WAIVING ALL
CITY FEES ALLOWED TO BE WAIVED BY CITY CODE, INCLUDING
THE FEE FOR THE USE OF THE MILDRED AND CLAUDE PEPPER
FOUNTAIN AREA OF BAYFRONT PARK; INSTRUCTING THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT TO USE ON DUTY MOTOR PATROL DURING THIS
EVENT; FURTHER CONDITIONED UPON THE ORGANIZERS PAYING
FOR THE NECESSARY COSTS OF CITY SERVICES AND SUBJECT
TO THE ORGANIZERS OBTAINING INSURANCE TO PROTECT THE
CITY IN THE AMOUNT AS PRESCRIBED BY THE CITY MANAGER
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OR HIS DESIGNEE.
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(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk.)
Upon being seconded by Vice Mayor Plummer,
adopted by the following vote:
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AYES:
Commissioner
Victor De Yurre
Commissioner
Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner
Miriam Alonso
Vice Mayor J..
L. Plummer, Jr.
Mayor Xavier
L. Suarez
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Mayor Suarez: Bye bye. We can't do more.
Commissioner Alonsot Wonderfull
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Mayor Suarez: I can't imagine anything else yott could even try on us before
we finally begin... _
Mr, Sutton Jr,t Well what I wanted to try, was a commitment that I can havo
you riding on a bicycle next to us.
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Mr. Sutton Jr.: I mean, you know, it's better than basketball.
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Mayor Suarez: Yea. I am tired of playing basketball.
Mr. Odio: I'm taking my camera.
Mr. Sutton Jr.: Is that a commitment?
Mayor Suarez: Do I have your commitment that y•)u are going to be on another
one, next to me?
Mr. Sutton Jr.: Pardon?
Mayor Suarez: Do I have your commitment yo:: are going to be on another
bike...?
Mr..Sutton Jr.: I've already been challenged by Commissioner Teele because he
says, well how can you ride as big as you are? And I answered him, that I am
riding a three wheeler. So yes, I will ride next to you.
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Mayor Suarez: You mean, I get to race against Teele?
Mr.: Sutton Jr.: -No, it's not a race. This is an idea to come together.
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Vice Mayor Plummer: There is only one problem. The Mayor will have a Big Mac
attack before he ever gets to McDonalds.
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Mr. Sutton -Jr,: 'OK. Thank you, ladies and gentlemen.
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Mayor,Suarez: Thank you.
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Mayor Suarezi Item forty-six; Towing contract. What's the story
Mr..,Qdio::;That's Commissioner Dawkins request.
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QIIAse;tner i%awkina�x The, towing contract had based with us for two or
hl~'�A :yaare, aQ I decided that if we could Set through with it, wa c4u1�! V+a
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Mayor Suarez: OK. What,..? I'm going to need some clarifications,
Commissioner Dawkins: Yes. He is up there.,,
Mayor Suarez: What exactly are you moving? Are you moving...?
Commissioner Dawkins: I am moving that the agreement, the towin
agreement,..
Vice Mayor Plummer: Has the City looked at the revisions?
Mr, Ron Williams: Yes.
Commissioner Dawkins: The towing contract agreement.
Vice Mayor Plummer: And you are not in an opposition?
Mr. Williams: We are not.
Mr. Bill McClaskey: The RFP, and the agreement, and the amendments.
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Mayor Suarez: Are we talking about the City - vehicles towed by the City at
the request of the City?
Mr. McClaskey: Yes.
Mayor Suarez: And didn't we have nice zones drawn, and all kinds of
particip...
Commissioner Alonso: We do,
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Commissioner Dawkins: Yes, that's what all this is,
Mr. Williams: That's exactly what we are talking about, Mr. Mayor.
Vice Mayor Plummer: All right, let me make sure now. This went through...
Mayor Suarez: But didn't we o through a whole bidding
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Commissioner Dawkins: We did that.
Vice Mayor Plummer: This went through a bidding process, is that...?
Mr. Williams; No, we have not proceeded as of this moment. Remember, we
brought this to you before. You had concerns that the City and the industry
were'working -together. You, asked that we get together. We have done that.
We have before you, what I would consider minor revisions which Mr. McClaskeY
will. speak to, that we have discussed with the Police Department, and I wouldYL
emphasize that this is specifically police towing, and we don't have any major
differences as it relates to the document that we would like:,.
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Mayor Suarez: But your proposal is to reenter into a contract for the same
regions with the same companies that were there, ands not allow any new
competition?
Commissioner De Yurres No, this is changing the ordinance - is what we are
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Mr. Williams; Well, what we are proposing - what we are asking you to allow
ustodo, is proceed with the RFP (Request for Proposal) document: as revised
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consultation with the Law Department, that we are able to. proceed with working
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out agreements per the competitors selection process, and most certainly, the
Manager would bring to you for final approval, with and including companies
that are qualified, that meet the criteria of the RFP, and that are able to
provide the services as they are presently prc,vided. Clearly, that's your
final decision.
Mayor Suarez: In a competitive way?
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Mr. Williama: Competitive selection process.
Mayor Suarez: night,
Mr. Williams: This is not a low bid, high bid kind of situation,
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Mayor Suarezi I understand, but it's competitive. We have more than one
bidder, we can have new bidders?
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Mr. Williams: Most certainly.
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Mayor Suarez: Do you need to put in the record what the new modifications
are?
Mr. McClaskey: The recommendations which are oefore you now, are the ones
that we recommend.
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Mayor Suarez: Do we need to put...?
Mr. McClaskey: And Commissioner Plummer has just agreed to accept.
Mayor Suarez: All right, I tried him - I get any answers out of him. Do we
need to put in the record what the modifications are? And sir, you're in the
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back, approach the mike if you intend to say something about this matter. But
before that, Mr. Williams, Mr. - Manager, somebody, answer my question —nice
and simply. Do we need to put in the record what the modifications are of the
existing contractual arrangement, or do we not?
Mr. Williams: I think we need to put them in the record, Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Suarez: Could you please do so, very quickly.
Mr. Williams: I was... the industry was going tr propose them into there, and
there are changes, but I most certainly am able.
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Mayor Suarez: Well, he started out saying something, that I have no idea
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where he was headed. Can you just say what they are?
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before you, Mr. Mayor, we did make a change regarding the delegation of
authority- toexecute a renewal option. We are proposing a contract with
renewal options where the RFP document ask that the Manager is able to make
those renewal options after his full review and execution. - I mean, and
examination.
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Vice Mayor Plummer: Excuse me. The Manager is r.ble, or the Commission?
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Mr. Williams: The City Manager.
Mayor Suarez: Now, what are we going to give...?
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Mr. Williams: Lam just saying, that is a propo::al that we've agreed with the
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Mayor Suarez: Renewal options. You mean that. the Manager... in effect, we
are giving away our power to accept the bidding process. I don't know''I am'
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term that is a desirable term, and then this Commission looks at the whole;Y
process, and, re -awards. You know, renewal options is a misnomer anyhow;'
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year option .. with two one-year options.
Mayor Suarez: See, that's what confuses everybody. You do that kind of
stuff, and nobody is too sure if they have a three year term, if they have two
year term at your option, or the Manager - so, it's a two year term? No
options, unless somebody here wants options. I am not going to vote for any
options.
Mr. Williams: No options.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Wait a minute.
County to City of Miami location of
just experience?
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What am I reading here? Change from Dade
tow experience for three years. That's
Mayor Suarez: Might. What is that about?
Vice Mayor Plummer: In business?
Commissioner Alonso: Yes.
Mr. Williams: That's right.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Now I'm asking, I am playing semantics. Are we talking
about, in business, or experience? A guy can work for a tow company and be
experienced. Is it... are we talking about that they must be in business for
three years, or they must have three years of experience?
Mr. Odio: I would say, in business for three years.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Well, I am asking for clarification.
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Mr. Odio: Well, that should...
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company will have a record of performance in the City of Miami for three
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years.
Vice Mayor Plummer: OK. All right.
Mr. McClaskey: In the towing business?
Vice Mayor Plummer: Of course.
Mr. Odio: Go ahead.
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Mr. Williams: The other one... let me go to page...
Mayor.Suarez: And that was previously in the County?
Mr. Williams: Yes. We had proposed that it would be County -wide. We were
aware,-and;the industry agreed that you had concerns about in -city activity,
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towing in the City - for City towing request by a police department, th
person have, or the entity have been towing in the City of Miami for three
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they have to have done that for three years, which eliminates a lot of people.
Vies Mayor Plummer: I would you rather give the edge to a City business than
someone who is not.
Mr. Williams: 'That's also Mr. Mayor, a concern.,,
Mayor Suarez: But all of a sudden, springing a three year requirement. I
don't know, that's sound anti -competitive to me, but.AE
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Officer Shannon is here.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Well, but wait a minute. The final conclusion is, I want
to take this out of the Police Department's hands.
Commissioner Dawkins: Second the motion.
Vice Mayor Plummer: I want to take the towing; business out of the Police
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Commissioner Dawkins: Second the motion.
Vice Mayor Plummer= I'm going to conclude with that.
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Mayor Suarez: Moved and seconded. I'm not sure what it means, but.
Vice Mayor Plummer: I will make it at a motion at the conclusion. Go ahead,
and put the rest of the amendments in.
Mayor Suarez: I would ask my esteemed Commissioner, that if he really intends
to.do that, I don't know if it requires an ordinance.
Vice Mayor Plummer: No.
Mayor Suarez: But whether it does or not, that he would bring that up at the
next Commission meeting. I am not prepared to vote, and I don't know the
implications of that.
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Mayor Suarez: And I would invoke the rule if I had to, but I'd prefer not to.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Mr. Mayor, I am onl y saying that .:they will be the
supervising control over the towing ordinance. I want to put policemen back
doing police work.
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Commissioner Alonso: We are not ready to vote on something like that.
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Vice Mayor Plummer: Put him out guarding the gate where you have a full
physically armed person there now.
Mr. Odio: He cannot guard anything. He's on...
Vice Mayor Plummer: You got more damn security in that Police bepartment, I
don't know if you're scared of crime inside of that building.
Mr. Odio: ...learned once what can happen there.
Mayor Suarez: Can we leave that?
Vice Mayor Plummer: Sure, I'm going to bring it up at the end. I told you
that.
Mayor Suarez: Thank you. All right, what else?
Mr. Williams: The next issue calls for an increase of the requirement of five
class A wreckers from four. We previously had four, we're asking the towing
agencies to have a slight bit more equipment because it's busy out there, and
we think that's required. We've all discussed that and I think the industry
supports that.
Mayor Suarez: Anything else?
Mr. Williams: Do you want to add anything else, Bill?
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have the six zones. It works well. A citizen gets their car towed in one
zone they generally...
Mayor Suarez: I thought the idea was to have more than one per zone. To have
more competition on rates.
Mr. Williams: Well, we establish the rate. We establish the rate, Mr: Mayor -
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rate is fixed and no citizen is gouged anymore downtown than they are in
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bidders.
Vice Mayor Plummer: In some we did, yes.
Mayor Suarez: In some of them.We had joint.'..
Mr. Williams: Yes, and I think that was only one, if I'm correct.
Vice,Mayor.Plummer: Oh, wait a minute now.
Mr. McClaskey: .Yes,. that didn't work out very well.
Vice Mayor Plummer; Hold on, there's another amendment that I have here, and
that=is that the towing agency must have an office and storage facility in the
City of Miami.
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Officer Shannon: I mean; if it's wrecked, what are you going to do with
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Mr. McClaskey: We do release cars 24...
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Mayor Suarez: We're not talking about a
wrecked car.
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the...
Mr. Odio: I'm thinking about a tow.
Vice Mayor Plummer: I'm talking about a
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midnight, to
catch another
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come back the next morning. That's wrong!
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industry to address
that.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Mr. McClaskey of the towing industry.
Mayor Suarez: How do you solve that? -the guy who needs to get his car back
at 1:00 o'clock in the morning?
Mr. McClaskey: There's only two reasons we would not release a car after
hours, or 24 hours a day. To someone who is inebriated, a drug addict, or
someone on alcohol, or a car that's wrecked where you had to tow it out. A
drivable automobile with someone who is able to crive that car, we release it.
Mayor Suarez: Did you understand the question?
Mr. McClaskey: Yes, 24 hours a day we release v car.
Mayor.: Suarez: How do you, -release the car if there's no built in requirement
of an office that is open 24 hours a day?
Mr. McClaskey.: But it is open.
Mr. Odio: But then they should put it in the con... put it in.
Mayor - Suarez: , He. was just asking about that requirement, and they said, "no,
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Vice.Mayor;-Plummer.: Don't you have somebody, Bill, at your place 24 hours a
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The Commission wants to know why we can't require that the
office be open 24 hours a day, when it's taken us this long to find out that
you all do. You have no problem with it, and that you have no problem with us
building that
in as a requirement. This is incredible!
Mr. Williams.
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I'm not even going to ask any more questions. Do you have any
objections back there, air?
Mr. Jim Flippen: I would like to make a statement.
Mayor Suarez:
Please. I'm afraid you might give us something else that is
irrelevant at
this point.
Mr. Flippen:
Thank you, Mayor, City Commissioners, Manager, and Attorney,
City Clerk.
I apologize for my appearance. I had surgery a couple of days
ago and I just got out of the hospital.
Mayor Suarez:
It's OK. You look a hell of a lot better than...
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All we are seeking here right now is I want a chance to be heard
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Name and address. Name and address, sir.
Mr. Flippen: And also...
Mayor Suarez: We need your name and address.
Mr. Flippen: Oh, Jim Flippen, F-1-i-p-p-e-n, 9430 N.W. 23rd Street.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Are you in the business, sir.?
Mr. Flippen: Yes, I am.
Vice Mayor Plummer: And the company that you represent? -
Mr. Flippen: Gold Coast Towing.
Vice Mayor Plummer: That's your company?
Mr. Flippen: Yes, it is, sir. I'm the president of the company. All weare
seeking in the bid process and the award process that it be fair not
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Mayor Suarez: Jim, this company has nothing to do with - just out of
curiosity - with some individual named or called or using the name, or having
once used the name of Johnny Dollar?
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Mr. Flippen: In reference to the current towing contract that you currently
have,=I have a big- concern about the new draft in the proposal which:seeke''to
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saw nothing wrong with the past contracts and its requirements. And as a
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to award process and bid process to see who was going to get it, a few days
prior to the opening, everything was changed. We currently feel that the new
proposed changes don't help the bid and award process, but only exclude
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others. Quite specifically, I'm talking about the five years in. business, and
the three years in the City of Miami requirement. Provisions can be, drafted
in the law which protect the public from unscrupulous towing companies other
than just the current new proposal of the five years and three years in the
City of Miami requirement. If a company is unscrupulous in business, it does
not matter how long it's been in business. Pro-gctions and provisions should
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be similar to that, that remind me of the health clubs, spas and gyms that
exist in South Florida, where that everyone is required to post 'a bond, d
if they fail; or are found to have engaged 'in' unscrupulous activi.tte$, they
forfeit all or part of the bond. Commissioners and Mayor, l just want you to
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understand one thing. if you vote for the five year in business, three year
in the City of Miami requirement, you are right, there excluding many good
companies from the bid and the award process, and we feel this is unfair anti
more important, extremely exclusionary. Alsc, you would be in effect,
granting a monopoly to the few companies who are currently doing business with
the City of Miami. You will all agree.,.
Mayor Suarez; Not quite, not quite, not quite, Jim.
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Mayor Suarez: No, no, no, no. On that point, on that point, just very
quickly.
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Mayor Suarez: All you have to do is establish a pattern of doing towing in
the area of the City of Miami, although you wouldn't be doing it for us
directly, and then you would comply with that. It's...
Mr. Flippeni Understand. OK. You all agree that the more companies that
participate in the bid and award process, as lcng as they are qualified and
reliable and have proper insurance...
Mayor Suarez: What do you mean by the word process? -just out of curiosity?
Mr. Flippen: In other words, for example, I have participated in the past in
Dade County, Metro Dade County towing bid process':•, and this is our...
Mayor Suarez: Oh, the bid process. OK, go ahead.
Mr. Flippen: Yes, OK, all right. Anyway, as long as the companies are
reliable and qualified and their records all check out and so forth, the
better off the City is and so are its citizens. The bottom line I'm trying to
make here is that not everything... we find it Kind of strange that all of a
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me, OK? I just want to make sure it's fair for everyone - there are other
companies who have the Workmens Comp, the garage liability, the equipment, the
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personnel, the radio equipment, and so forth, and have met the state
requirements in order to be in the business, all right, that have not towed in
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the City of Miami for three years, but have been in
existence for.several
years. Your prior contract that you had mentioned a
reasonable amount of
time. I have people that are employed by me that work in my company have been
in the towing business all their lives. We have three
locations, our company
does itself, all right. And we have no problem with any other requirement as
far., as being.in the City of Miami with your office open
24 hours a'day,having
the.insurance, the equipment and so forth. But we feel
that by offering five
years and three years in the City, it's really an unfair
and biased situation,
and I just thank -you for at least hearing me out. Thank
you.very much.
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you that on the issue:
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came about a problem
before. Are you assuring this Commission that it is, in
fact, in this new RFP
any transfer of stock or ownership must be approved by this
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Mr. Williamss That was cleared up, yes.
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Mr. Williams; As I recall that, in particular, you were concerned about the
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Mr. Vice Mayor, is if someone bought stock in a company at a minor level or
some other level, we may not have the...
Vice Mayor Plummer: I'm saying that... All right, well I'll put in there
then what I put in for Bayside.
Mayor Suarez: Transfer of control is what concerns him.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Any transfer of stock of a given company exceeding five
percent of the stock of the company requires Co.mnission approval.
Mayor Suarez: Transfer of even a minority amount of stock.
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Commissioner De Yurre: OK, what about... Can you also pay with credit cards
and checks?
Mayor Suarez: Is that a requirement that you be able to pay with credit
cards? _
Mr. McClaskey: The County requires that, Dade County.
Commissioner De Yurre: So that's in, credit cart'>s...
Mayor Suarez: So the answer is yes.
Mr. McClaskey: Yes.
Commissioner De Yurre: ...credit cards and check.
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Mayor Suarez: How about checks?
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Mr. McClaskey: Well, credit card or check.
Commissioner De Yurre: OK.
Mr. McClaskey: There's two ways of payment, cash...
Commissioner De Yurre: OK, there's three ways:
Mr. McClaskey: ...credit card or check.
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or a check
with a credit card, but they don't have to require that we don't...
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a check, is
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perhaps some disagreement with
the
idea of restricting
someone
who has not
been in the City of Miami ;or
the
last three years. I
would
love to see
a change in that, and would otherwise
approve all the other
recommendations.
I think it's...
Mr, MOClaskey: Mr. Mayor, that's something that...
Mayor Suarez: I could have sworn I didn't ask you to say anything, that we
were at the point of policy decision here, Jack.
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Mr. McClaskey: ...the City should be. I know, but I got...
Mayor Suarez: If the Commissioner feels that way or if they don't. It's our
prerogative, please, it's 9:10. We've heard a lot of arguments from a lot of
people today on a lot of extraneous topics.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Well, let me tell you how I feel. This gentleman here
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had the opportunity to do business in the City of Miami for the past three
years. He didn't do it. That's his elective, that's his choice. I'm saying,
let's take care of the home folks. When this thing comes up again, if he
wants to put an office in this City for three years to make him qualified...
You know, I like to protect home folks. I really do.
Mayor Suarez: No, no, no. We're at the Commission discussion...
Vice Mayor Plummer: I'm expressing my opinion.
Mayor Suarez: ...part of our agenda here.
Commissioner De Yurre: OK, then is that a motion to approve this as presented
with the changes?
Vice Mayor Plummer If that's the case, I have no problem with it.
Commissioner De Yurre: OK. I'll second.
Vice Mayor Plummer: Based on the fact that we're, you know, going to go out
and get qualified bidders. And this Commission._..
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Mayor Suarez: So moved and seconded. Does anybody want to make a substitute
motion or modification? Call the roll.
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The following motion was introduced by Corunissioner Plummer, who moved
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MOTION NO. 91-306
A MOTION APPROVING ISSUANCE OF REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS
(RFP) FOR AWARD FOR A CITY TOWING CONTRACT, MAKING
CERTAIN THE RFP WOULD CONTAIN THE FOLLOWING BASIC
REQUIREMENTS OF THE TOWING AGENCY OR COMPANY: `.
1. MUST HAVE OPERATED IN THE CITY OF MIAMI FOR A
MINIMUM OF THREE YEARS;
2. INCREASE THE REQUIREMENT OF CLASS A WRECKERS FROM
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3. ONE AGENCY TO OPERATE PER ZONE;
4. MUST HAVE AN OFFICE AND STORAGE AREA IN THE CITY OF r s
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5. MUSTHAVEONE OFFICE OPEN 24 HOURS;
4 b. ANY TRANSFER OF STOCK OR OWAERSHIP OF TOWING
COMPANY (EXCEEDING 5 PERCENT OF THE STOCK OF THE
COMPANY) REQUIRES COMMISSION APPROVAL.
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Commissioner Alonso: Let me clarify. They are not asking for money this
time. This is from the sate money that was allncated-before.
Commissioner Dawkinst No, it's not.
Mr. Borell: Well, if...
Commissioner Dawkins: They're asking for $20,000, Madam Commissioner.
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it from their own funds. They are not askin; for money. It's just the
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Commissioner Dawkins: A purchase money order for. $20,000 to cover the balance
of the purchase price. Now that means more money.
Commissioner Alonso: No, no, no...
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Commissioner Dawkins: OK, please do.
Commissioner Alonso: No, it is not. Would you explain? It's not more money.
Mr. Borell: What the group is asking for is the right to not only sign a
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note, which would make the group personally responsible, not the City of
Miami. But also the right to secure the promissory note with a mortgage,
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title to the property to vest with the City within the two year period, should
construction...-
Mayor Suarez: You're getting money out of the property. You're not asking us
for money directly, but it's kind of like it.
Mr. Borell: Right. And, of course, the group would have to pay those funds
back.
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different items. Build this thing and...
Mr. Odio: We'll be in first position.
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Commissioner Dawkins; All right, another question I have is, the last part
here says, as partial payment of the purchase price, and closing costs to
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place a lien on the subject property at the time of acquisition. Now, is this
allowing you to have a first lien on wee $300,000 policy, or what is
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Commissioner Alonso: Two eighty-eight.
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that if, within two years time construction had not begun, title would vest in
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is there, so the group is asking...
Commissioner Dawkins: So, no, well, wait a minute...
Mr. Borell: So the City would be the owner...
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Mr. Borell: OK. If, at the end of the two year period...
Commissioner Dawkins: Right.
Mr. Borell: ...construction had not begun.
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Mr. Borell: Title would go back to the City. Florida Housing would owe on
the promissory note the $20,000, plus whatever the interest would be, you
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Commissioner Dawkins: I will ask my question again, and all I need is like
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no. Then are you saying that this $20,000 does not allow the Housing
Cooperative to have a lien on the property in a first position?
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is going to be a mortgage of $20,000 at that point. Florida Housing will be
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Commissioner Alonso: So if the property comes back, we will be in the first
position, and that has to be clear. On the contract.
Mr. Borell: Well, the City would be the owner. If you want to look at it in
that sense, yes, OK.
Commissioner Alonso: And that's a legal question, And the City Attorney
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Commissioner Alonso: And say, yes, we have to be in the first position, so..,
Mr. Borell: The answer would be...
Mr. Jorge Fernandez: There is never no doubt...
Mr. Borell: ...although it isn't a loan, the City would be in the first
position, yes.
Mr. Fernandez: That's correct.
Commissioner Alonso: Good. So take a vote now.
Mr. Borell: Thank you.
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Mayor Suarez: All right, we have a motion and a second on this item. Please
call the roll.
The following resolution was introduced by Commissioner Alonso, who
moved its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 91-s07
A RESOLUTION WAIVING ARTICLE IV, SECTION 4.2.OF THE
MEMORANDUM OF AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF MIAMI AND
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FLORIDA HOUSING COOPERATIVE, INC., DATED MARCH 28,
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1991 WHICH WILL ALLOW SAID CORPORATION TO GIVE A_:.'
PURCHASE MONEY FIRST MORTGAGE IN THE AMOUNT OF $20,000
AND WILL ALLOW A LIEN IN SAID AMOUNT TO BE PLACED ON
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PROPERTY LOCATED AT APPROXIMATELY 1025 WEST FLAGLER
STREET, MIAMI, FLORIDA.
(Here follows body of resolution, omitted here and on
file in the Office of the City Clerk )
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Upon being seconded by Commissioner Plummer-, the resolution was passed
and adopted by the following vote:
AYES: Commissioner Miller J. Dawkins
Commissioner Miriam Alonso
Mayor Xavier L. Suarez
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NOES: None.
ABSENT: Commissioner Victor De Yurre*
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Vice Mayor J. L. Plummer, Jr.*
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requested of the Clerk to show them voting with the motion.)
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Mr. Borell: Thank you very much.
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NOTE FAR THE RECORD; t this Po-nt, Mayor Suarez
changes hie vote to "no" on label 7 (towing),
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walked out. My vote on the prior item, I want it reflected as a no, on the
towing thing. I'm still concerned about the anti -competitive aspect of thin.
OK) we're adjourned.