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COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT VOLUNTARY
PRE -PROPOSAL SUBMISSION CONFERENCE
AND SITE VISIT
cl-111(opy,
Suite 100
49 Northwest Fifth Street
Miami, Florida
Wednesday, July 7, 2004
10:10 a.m. - 10:40 a.m.
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COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AGENCY
FRANK K. ROLLASON, Executive Director
CHELSA M. ARSCOTT-DOUGLAS, Planning Administrator
ANTRANETTE PIERRE, Executive Assistant
BUILDING DEPARTMENT
JAVIER CARBONELL, Assistant Director
PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT
FRANCIS MITCHELL, P.E., Assistant Director
CRA COUNSEL
ERICA WRIGHT, ESQ., Assistant City Attorney
City of Miami Attorney's Office
945 Riverside Center
444 Southwest 2nd Avenue
Miami, Florida 33130
WILLIAM BLOOM, ESQ.
Holland & Knight
701 Brickell Avenue
Miami, Florida 33130
ALSO PRESENT:
JOHN HALL, Black Archives Foundation
MATTHEW SCHWARTZ, Crosswinds Communities
PASCALLE DILLETT, Comm. Teele's Office
ARNY LECKIE, Investor
.PHILIP BACON, Collins Center
CAESAR PHILLIPS, MMAP
ERIC SHAW, OCP
JUANDA FERGUSON, Alednam
FRANK GONZALEZ, Paver Systems
MARK COATS, Crosswinds Communities
E X H I B I T I N D E X
No. Description Page No.
1 Notice of Workshop 60
2 Q & A 60
3 Site Plan 60
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DIRECTOR ROLLASON: Good morning,
everybody.
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I'm Frank Rollason. I'm the Executive
Director of the CRA. And we are here today
for the workshop dealing with this RFP that's
out on Block 36 from the CRA.
We have a selection of documents to give
you this morning and make you aware of a few
things. And primarily we are here to answer
questions.
We will pass those out. I got somebody
that's coming to give those out as we get to
the different items.
One thing we want, we have a sign -in
sheet that's here somewhere. I see everybody
putting their name on that, but I think she
has got a sign -in sheet up here.
It looks a little bit better. So if you
fill that out for us, and that way we can get
items back to you as they become available.
Chelsa, what do you want to do? Do you
want to -- we got a lift of -- I guess the
first thing we can get out to you is we've
got a stack of questions that have been
submitted to us that we have prepared written
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responses for.
And I don't know if you all picked those
up, if you have them or -- has everyone got
one at this point?
I take that as yes, since I don't get
nobody saying no.
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So you can look over those. If you have
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any questions on those, we can expand on them
or give you what we know. That is the
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point.
There is going to be somebody here from
zoning. They said they would get here about
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9:30. They can't stay very long, but they
will answer any of the zoning questions that
you may have. If there are still some
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questions dealing with zoning, they will take
care of that.
We still got a plan to go for a site
visit. For those of you who want to go over
there to the block, we can do. We will be
glad to take a run over there for that.
We had a request that's come in from the
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Black Archives to delay the response time. I
have a copy of their letter that you can all
have.
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Pass these out.
Everybody got that? Okay.
What I have done is I have given a copy
of this to general counsel to take a look at
and answer a couple of questions for me.
Primarily, I'm interested in whether
Chapter 163 allows for any type of
extension. My cursory reading of it has no
mention of allowing an extension in there.
It doesn't prohibit it, but it doesn't speak
to it. It makes a statement to the effect
that all the responses have to be in within
30 days.
The other question is if general counsel
tells me that there is a methodology for
having an extension, the next question I have
of general counsel is, what is the method I
have to go through to get that. I certainly
do not have the authority to grant an
extension myself. I would think it would
have to go back to the Board.
The Board does not meet until July
28th. This due date is July 16th. So it
would require a special meeting of the Board
if counsel advises me that that's the way to
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So at this point, the due date is still
July 16th. We are pressing on that way.
This morning I forwarded this document to all
board members, so they are aware of it. And
I told them that I was pursuing the issue
with general counsel to see what the results
that I get back from them.
The purpose of this workshop --
MR. HALL: Excuse me on that.
DIRECTOR ROLLASON: Yes, sir.
MR. HALL: Can we hear from the general
counsel what his position is?
DIRECTOR ROLLASON: General counsel
isn't here. She will be here. She is
supposed to be here in a moment. This is
special counsel. He is not related to this.
And when she gets here, sure. Whatever
she has to tell me, that's fine.
The purpose of this was, if you recall,
we will go back to the beginning when we
started this process, the issue that came
before the Commission and the board dealing
with 30 days versus 60 days and the amount of
time.
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And the way that we addressed that was
to put out a notice that we intend to put out
an RFP for 30 days, and then put out of the
RFP for 30 days, which gave us really 60 days
to work on putting something together for
that period of time. But even so, during the
30-day period for the RFP, we felt it was
necessary for us to get together one last
time to see if there was any other question
that you want to ask that you have not been
able to have taken care of at this point.
So that's -- and we waited late into the
process because we wanted you to be able to
have whatever questions you had together. We
felt if we had it very early on in the
process, it might be that you hadn't gotten
into it deep enough to realize what your
questions were.
So we figured with the first workshop
that we had and the fact that there is no
code of silence, that anybody can come to us
anytime during the process and talk to us
about any questions they have. We are open
to do that, us and the City staff.
So we waited until this point to have
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this one to clear up whatever last minute
questions there may be.
Originally, we talked about having it
the latter part of last week. And then I got
concerned about the 4th of July weekend and
people bugging out of town and somebody
saying, "Hey, you know, I was gone," or, "it
was a holiday weekend and you had this."
So we waited for this week to do it.
Let's see. What else do we have? Did
we have to get --
MR. BLOOM: Yes.
DIRECTOR ROLLASON: Yes, Bill.
MR. BLOOM: Let me ask one question
about the timeline, the proposed timeline.
If there were a 30-day extension
granted, does the CRA meet in August?
DIRECTOR ROLLASON: No.
MR. BLOOM: So it would be beyond that.
DIRECTOR ROLLASON: Well, once -- if the
timeline -- let's say -- let's say we had to
call a special meeting. Again, this is based
on the premise I didn't talk to general
counsel yet. I mean, I sent it to her
yesterday, and we haven't seen each other.
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But let's say that she says, yes, there
is a way to do it and this is what you have
to do.
I have to call a special meeting. I
have to go to the chairman and request him to
call a special meeting. He is the only one
that can call a special meeting. The Board
can call a special meeting, but only during a
board meeting when there is three of then
that decide to have a special meeting. So
the only person that can call a special
meeting is the chairman.
So I would take this to the chairman. I
would say, do you want to call a special
meeting for this, to consider this. And then
the Board takes whatever action they take.
Whatever that date is when the documents
come in, it makes no difference whether they
meet in August or not because I am not going
to have a package for them to go in August
anyway. In other words, it has got to be
reviewed and whatever. And then at this
point, I am looking to go back to them in
September.
If they extend it, it possibly could be
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the October meeting, you know, depending on
the responses that we get.
MR. SCHWARTZ: Yes.
DIRECTOR ROLLASON: Matt.
MR. SCHWARTZ: As someone who has a firm
that intends to submit, we would oppose an
extension because we went through a major
expense trying to meet your deadline. And I
think, in all fairness, it's been out there,
as you said, for 60 days.
DIRECTOR ROLLASON: I understand.
MR. SCHWARTZ: I just want to -- I mean,
I think in all fairness --
DIRECTOR ROLLASON: I hear you loud and
clear.
And as I explained to Mr. Hall
yesterday, I am sure there would be people
that would -- you know -- feel both ways.
And that's why the Board would have to make
an extension -- make a decision if there were
to be an extension.
What else do we have?
MS. ARSCOTT-DOUGLAS: The copies.
DIRECTOR ROLLASON: Right. That's in
the questions and answers. There was a
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question about how many copies we need you to
submit to us, the sets of your proposals.
And the answer is 10.
ARSCOTT-DOUGLAS: And it's for each
category. It's for two categories.
MR. SCHWARTZ: Sealed envelopes in the
back?
DIRECTOR ROLLASON: Yes. Right.
Separate envelopes, sealed as the
directions are in the RFP, and submit it to
the City clerk.
And please be on time because if you are
late at the City clerk's window, you are
out. I mean, that's -- we have stopped doing
reception of documents here at CRA because it
lent itself to things coming in the next day,
maybe before and all that. And there is a
way to do it, and that's the way it makes it
fair to all at that period of time to submit.
MR. HALL: Yes.
DIRECTOR ROLLASON: Yes, sir.
MR. HALL: On your questions and answers
it says parking requirements of the Lyric
Theater.
DIRECTOR ROLLASON: Right.
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MR. HALL: Required is left blank.
DIRECTOR ROLLASON: Right.
The zoning will be here. And the --
what we got -- the figure that we have on
there on the desired are from the Lyric.
They would like to have this amount to that
amount. So whatever that figure is on there.
However, required, I'm looking at what
zoning is saying is a required amount of
spaces that have to be there per seats that
are in the -- in the theater.
MR. BLOOM: There wouldn't be any
required parking on your property. So there
would be no required parking that you would
have to provide.
DIRECTOR ROLLASON: On Block 36.
MR. BLOOM: Right.
DIRECTOR ROLLASON: No. I understand
that. But I think the question is, if
somebody is trying -- I think -- the way I
interpreted the question is if somebody were
doing development on Block 36 and we were
trying to accommodate parking for the Lyric
Theater, how many spaces would they -- are
required to be there for the Lyric Theater.
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And that's their option. Somebody else may
develop it and not want to provide any
parking for the Lyric Theater.
But the question is how many spots would
the Lyric Theater require. And zoning will
have to answer that. And he is going to be
here in a few minutes as to what is required
parking.
MR. HALL: And the source of the desired
range was who at the Lyric Theater?
She said 133 and 180.
MS. ARSCOTT-DOUGLAS: She says pending
on whether -- she said depending on whether
she had to accommodate for wheelchair
seating, but she said I think it was one
space per three seats in the theater.
MR. HALL: Okay. Because I think there
may be some confusion on that because the
number we have been using is 200. And this
is the first time I have ever seen 133 to
180.
But if what she was speaking of,
wheelchair -- I am not sure what the
relationship is. But I think she would be
thinking in terms of what was required as
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opposed to what was needed. Because we had
talked about 200 and we talked about 250, but
we never talked about 133. There are 400
seats. I would assume that every three
people are in one car.
MS. ARSCOTT-DOUGLAS: That's what she
said.
DIRECTOR ROLLASON: That's what she
said.
MR. HALL: Well, I -- you know, I would
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like to put an asterisk by that and have the
opportunity to get back to you because I
question whether that's what she really meant
if that's what she said.
DIRECTOR ROLLASON: All right. Listen,
we are reporting here the information that we
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received from the Black Archives. She is the
executive director of the Black Archives.
And that's what we got. So -- you know --
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we are passing that out for what we
received.
Anything else?
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I see general counsel and somebody from
public works approaching. So we will let --
if you have any questions of her or if she
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has any statements about the extension, we
can listen to what she has to say about
that.
Hello, my dear. How are you?
MS. WRIGHT: I'm fine, and you?
DIRECTOR ROLLASON: Questions have come
up about the extension.
MS. WRIGHT: The notice -- I mean, the
statute does say within 30 days of the
notice. So there can't be an extension for
the sale or appraisal, or you basically
declare this RFP process null and void.
MR. BLOOM: Frank, you will recall at
the commission meeting that you first
approved that the debate was the same
debate. And it was decided, since Black
Archives was saying we need more time, to do
a 30-day pre -notice before the RFP was done
so it would give them more time to respond.
So this really seems to be another
repeated attempt to the process.
DIRECTOR ROLLASON: I understand. I
understand. I will take it up with the
chairman and see what --
MR. HALL: I'm sorry. We couldn't -- I
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couldn't hear what you said.
MS. WRIGHT: Statute 163.380 governs the
disposal of property within -- for CRA's.
And Subsection 2 -- well, Subsection 3A talks
about the notice that goes out for the RFP.
And it says, "Such notice shall identify
the area or portion thereof, state that the
proposal must be made by those interested
within 30 days after the date of publication
or notice. And that such other further
information is available may be obtained from
the office designated in the notice."
So that means that there are -- after
the official notice for this RFP was
published, that it requires that there is 30
days in which people must respond, if they
are going to respond, to the RFP.
So I don't see -- I mean, the statute
really doesn't mention any exceptions to that
particular rule. So the only thing that I
can recommend at this time, unless someone
gives me other legal authority, is that they
have to go forward with the RFP as it is or
they would have to cancel the RFP and then
rebid it with a different -- with a different
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deadline.
MR. HALL: And it's your opinion that
there are no options in between those two.
MS. WRIGHT: Those are the only two
options that I know of at this time.
DIRECTOR ROLLASON: Any other
questions?
Javier Carbonell, acting now as the
chief zoning administrator, right?
MR. CARBONELL: Right.
DIRECTOR ROLLASON: For the City. So he
is here. If there are any zoning questions
or anything dealing with zoning, I mean
Javier is the one to address those
questions.
Matthew?
MR. SCHWARTZ: Yes.
Javier, I have a question.
On the 9th Street lawn, I believe there
is a 25-foot setback required. Is there an
opportunity to be flexible in that as far as
the City?
MR. CARBONELL: It would require a
variance.
MR. SCHWARTZ: Variance?
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MR. CARBONELL: Variance. Yes. And
everything you do there would have go to the
UDRB.
MR. HALL: I have a question.
On the parking for the Lyric Theater,
how many spaces are normally required for the
Lyric Theater, which has 400 seats?
MR. CARBONELL: The Lyric Theater is
historic, and there are certain calculations
that were allowed to happen there because of
their historic nature. So it's a significant
reduction.
Exactly, I would have to look up what
the -- how the configuration was done. But
it's not kept as a normal theater.
MR. HALL: And would any -- someone just
said that it was zero because --
MR. CARBONELL: It may have been zero.
MR. HALL: And would any -- would any
spaces that are provided for the Lyric,
therefore, qualify as public purpose parking
spaces, assuming it's zero?
MR. CARBONELL: Zero. If it said zero,
anything in excess is available.
MR. HALL: So anything that is in excess
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of what is required would qualify as public
purpose spaces.
MR. CARBONELL: It would be up to the
lease and how they would interpret the lease
for the Lyric Theater for it to be available
to the general public and all.
MR. BLOOM: I think you are talking
about the property on the Lyric Theater.
MR. HALL: No. I'm talking about
property on Block 36 that was designed --
that was dedicated to the Lyric.
MR. CARBONELL: It depends on how the
lease was written.
MR. BLOOM: But there is -- but there is
no lease at this point. So whatever the
Lyric land Lyric has, whatever the
requirements that the Lyric has with respect
to its property don't -- adjoining property
joined by others. There is no requirement
that the adjoining property owner, whether it
be the CRA, whether it be Dade County, or
whether it be ABC Plumbing, provide parking
for the Lyric Theater on their property.
MR. HALL: Okay. But I'm only speaking
here to the issue of TIF. And the RFP
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encourages us to provide parking for the
Lyric Theater.
My question is, if we provide parking
for the Lyric Theater to create a lease
relationship that also allows those to be
public purpose parking spaces, can that be
done? Can they be included as public purpose
parking spaces?
MR. CARBONELL: The way the RFP is
written is encourages, not mandatory.
MS. ARSCOTT-DOUGLAS: Encourages.
MR. CARBONELL: So it would be up to you
how your lease relationship would be with the
Lyric Theater, if you have a lease or just an
arrangement.
MR. HALL: But as long as they are
public purpose and it's beyond the number
that's required, it wouldn't be considered
part of the required parking for the Lyric.
MR. CARBONELL: No. No. Lyric Theater
qualified on its own.
MR. HALL: So it's grandfathered in at
its present state.
MR. CARBONELL: Yes. Whatever you add
to it and give to them for their use is
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exactly that. You are just giving for their
use. And if their use ceases, which
hopefully it won't, but if the use ceases,
that is not part of what was calculated.
MR. BLOOM: As a clarification, the
requirements for the Lyric Theater parking is
the same as the requirement for the
longshoremen's parking. Both of those
entities require more of an event parking
than permanent parking, which you don't need
150 spaces for the Lyric all the time.
So when there is an event, same thing
with the longshoremen. They only need it for
certain hours of the day, which is limited.
Which, again, expands the ability to make
that public parking during the office hours,
okay?
MR. HALL: Okay.
I have another question.
Is the plan for the widening of Eighth
Street tentative or definite?
MR. MITCHELL: Repeat your question
again.
MR. HALL: Is the plan for the widening
of Eighth Street tentative or definite?
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MR. MITCHELL: Well, 12.5 feet would
have to be dedicated for Eighth Street. So
this will have to be for the future
widening.
MR. HALL: And do we -- are we expected
to bid on the price of the land including or
excluding the dedicated portion?
DIRECTOR ROLLASON: I would think that
if the dedication came alone, that that would
be deducted from whatever price had to be
paid if you had to dedicate that.
But, you know, I am not really sure how
that works.. I'm not really sure if you buy
that land and then you dedicate after the ,
fact, if you pay the price for all the land
and then dedicate after because -of the
requirements of public works.
MR. BLOOM: I mean, I think we have to
investigate the situation with the land, what
dedications may be required by the City of
Miami on this. And then when they are
raising their proposal, take into account
that they may in the future have to make a
dedication. But the price you are offering
is for the land that's there now subject to
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whatever may happen in the future.
MR. HALL: We base at Archives our FAR
on the total land or is it based on the land
less the dedicated?
MR. CARBONELL: FAR is on the gross lot,
what they can sell on the street, dedicated
and undedicated land. So that includes your
land up to the certain line on the street.
The dedication will not effect the FAR.
MR. HALL: And can we plan to build on
the dedicated portion?
MR. CARBONELL: That's a public works
issue.
MR. MITCHELL: To build -- well, no
permanent structure. It will be, you know,
sidewalk, landscaping.
DIRECTOR ROLLASON: Irrigation.
MR. MITCHELL: You will have to go to a
covenant with the City, but no permanent
structure.
MR. CARBONELL: No building.
MR. SCHWARTZ: Just some clarification
on Eighth Street, the current right of way is
MR. MITCHELL: On Eighth Street --
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MR. CARBONELL: Right.
MR. HALL: I would like to know if it's
possible for us to get a site plan that
reflects where the dedicated lines are so
that we can know what portion of the property
is buildable.
MR. MITCHELL: Well, we are preparing
the final plat, the tentative plat. So it's
scheduled for July 21st in front of the
Flagler Street Committee, and for August 6th
and August 13th. So by August 13th, this
thing will be --
DIRECTOR ROLLASON: Well, these
responses are due July 16th.
MR. BLOOM: What you are submitting,
though, for approval is something they can
see now exactly what is being proposed.
DIRECTOR ROLLASON: Right. So 'if you
can provide that to us, we can provide it to
them.
MR. MITCHELL: Yes.
DIRECTOR ROLLASON: And you can mark it
proposed or draft or whatever you want to do
is fine.
MR. MITCHELL: Okay.
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DIRECTOR ROLLASON: But I mean, I need
to get that right away. And I thought it was
going to be brought over here today.
MR. HALL: Mr. Rollason, with all due
respect, the reason -- this is one of the
problems that our team is having that the
buildable lot is uncertain. What is really
buildable within the lot is uncertain. And
it's difficult to plan without knowing that.
DIRECTOR ROLLASON: John, I mean, I hear
what you are saying. But I am saying that we
have made it crystal clear in the RFP that
you may approach anybody in the City, anybody
at the CRA. And somebody that's a developer
certainly knows that they can go to public
works and get a copy of whatever is there.
We will get that, and we will get that
provided to you. But this process has not
been a hinderance to anybody receiving
information that you are asking for. That's
my position.
MR. HALL: I understand that.
DIRECTOR ROLLASON: That's available.
MR. HALL: I'm just saying that there
are certain things there are just being
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clarified at this moment. And there is no
site plan that let's us know without any
debate. We have our own estimates, which are
not reflective of exactly what we just heard,
that suggest the lines are different from
what we thought.
And I am not the only one that asked the
question that found out surprised here. So I
am just saying I think it would be reasonable
for everybody to have a site plan that
defines the buildable lines or boundaries --
you know -- more than a week ahead of time.
MR. BLOOM: What Frank has said loud and
clear is this information has been available
for this entire process if you had done your
due diligence at public works.
Are you saying now that Public Works
will provide copies to the CRA this
afternoon? You can get them over?
So they will be available to be picked
up this afternoon so you will have the
clarification.
All this information is in the public
domain readily accessible.
DIRECTOR ROLLASON: You can make those
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copies for me and have them over this
afternoon?
MR. MITCHELL: Yes. Whatever we have.
I don't think we have the final set, but I am
going to check for the final layout. But you -
know, from what I have, it's quite clear what
is buildable.
DIRECTOR ROLLASON: Okay. That's what I
need.
MR. MITCHELL: This is going to be
vacated. And this alley is going to be
vacated.
MR. BLOOM: Basically, what they are
planning to do is vacate the road and the
alleyway that runs through Block 36. They
are going to take 25 feet on the north side
to broaden Northwest Ninth Street. And they
are going to take 12 and a half feet on the
south side of Northwest Eighth Street. And
the curb don't effect the property at this
point because it's not part of the RFP.
So basically it's just taking a 12 and a
half feet parallel to Eighth Street on the
south. 25 feet parallel to Ninth Street on
the north.
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DIRECTOR ROLLASON: Frank, we can make
copies of that right here.
MR. HALL: If Public Works is not sure
that that's the final, I just don't see how
we can proceed and spend money based on --
MR. BLOOM: All he is saying is that
there is a replat being processed. It has to
go through the governmental approval
process. It could be rejected in that
process. The City may not want to vacate the
road running through the block now. They may
want to reduce the dedication for the road
improving to -- they would widen Eighth
Street.
MR. HALL: What I'm saying is that we
are spending money based on this. We have
one week to go, and you are saying it can
change again. And it's just not right.
DIRECTOR ROLLASON: You are duly noted.
MR. BLOOM: Or it could not change and
you have an alleyway and a road running
through the middle of your project. You are
developer. You know buying and selling
property bears risk, right? The CRA has made
clear to you what the risks are. They told
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you where you can go to get the information.
They made it clear there is no code of
silence so you can go to talk to anyone at
the City regarding the process and any
information you require.
MR. HALL: Well, if the record would
just reflect that it's still possible for it
to change again, and it's seven days until
due date.
DIRECTOR ROLLASON: It's on there.
What other questions do we have from
anybody?
All right. Are there those that want to
take a
Yes, sir.
MR. BACON: I do have a question, just a
point of clarification.
Is there -- as far as the parking is
concerned, is there any intent by the City
to -- sorry. The CRA -- to assist the
developer with any of the -- any of the
parking or buildable parking or desired
parking?
DIRECTOR ROLLASON: Are we talking about
TIF?
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MR. BACON: Yes.
DIRECTOR ROLLASON: Well, that depends
on your proposal. I mean, that's -- we look
at the proposal. And the question that John
was asking, is TIF, is it usable -- allow the
use of that TIF for public parking. And the
answer is yes.
You know, what is the proposal? What
are people proposing to us in exchange for
that TIF? What does the community get? What
is the project? What is the overall
project?
And then we look at that and decide, you
know, which way to go.
But if you are asking is it an allowable
use of TIF funds, the answer is yes. We can
use it for infrastructure. We can use it for
paving. We can use it for landscaping in the
public areas.
So I mean, those types of things can be
included in the proposal with people saying
that we are going to do this piece, and we
propose that the CRA do this piece.
MS. ARSCOTT-DOUGLAS: And there is also
a number of incentives from the City of Miami
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on the pamphlets on the table there as well.
MR. BLOOM: If I can clarify, a proposer
can say to you, this is what my proposed
development is, and I'm going to build a
500-car parking garage. And I propose that I
will pay you X dollars for the property, and
I propose that you make available to me X
percent of the TIF generated from the project
to be utilized to support those qualified
improvements within Block 36. That would be
an acceptable proposal.
DIRECTOR ROLLASON: Yes.
MR. SCHWARTZ: Is there any highway bond
funds available or proposed right now program
for Eighth Street or any of the right of way
improvements on this?
MR. MITCHELL: I am not aware of that
information. But let me take note of it.
MR. BACON: I need to ask a follow-up
question.
DIRECTOR ROLLASON: Okay.
MR. BACON: Just for clarification.
The reason why I asked the question is
to try to figure out. If there would
potentially be two actions necessary in order
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to accept one proposal -- In other words, if
I am a developer and I want to build -- I
have a proposal that requires a certain
amount of parking of which I am proposing
that the CRA helps build one form or another,
then my proposal really is contingent upon a
second decision by the City to -- or the CRA
-- to provide, you know, a certain amount of
TIF.
DIRECTOR ROLLASON: Correct.
MR. BACON: So I am -- so that's what I
am trying to bring into focus that in the
decision process, there may be need of two
decisions in order to come out with one
proposal.
DIRECTOR ROLLASON: Well, I think that
the proposals are evaluated based upon what
has been proposed. What is the best deal?
What is the best for the community? What do
I feel is the best thing to take forward to
the directors to negotiate further?
And then the negotiation starts on that
particular project as to how it goes to see
whether or not you can reach an agreement to
go forward with that project. Or if not, you
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go to the next proposal.
So depending on what you present and
how -- you know, somebody may present a
project that absolutely asks for no TIF and
has all the funding to go forward with what
they want to do. That's one way. But that
may not be what we feel is in the best
interest of what is happening in the
community.
So I mean, the CRA is different in the
fact that it's not based upon what the best
price is, what the highest price is. What
the biggest return of dollars is not the
total evaluation of what the Board makes a
decision on.
That's why you are asked two different
things. You are asked to present a price on
the land, to buy the land outright, and the
other one is your proposal.
Let me ask this, Francis, from Public
Works, the documents that you can provide me
this afternoon on the plat, is this
significantly different than what we have
provided to them right here?
MR. MITCHELL: No. It's going to be
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similar. What we have is a bunch of maps,
you know, plats together in a file. The
final sketch is not yet done. But basically,
what you see here, this is what it's going to
look like.
MR. BLOOM: So that has all the
pertinent information that any developer
would need?
MR. MITCHELL: Yes.
MR. SCHWARTZ: I think there is one bit
of clarification that may be helpful to look
at. Actually, because the Metro Mover
alignment cuts slightly on that block. Just
to make sure that, you know -- I believe this
is correct, but I think --
MR. BLOOM: Is it the Metro Mover carved
on --
MR. SCHWARTZ: Metrorail.
MR. BLOOM: Is carved on the legal
description for the parcel.
Okay.
MS. FERGUSON: I have a question.
Do you have the proposal itself?
DIRECTOR ROLLASON: The RFP that we put
out?
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MS. FERGUSON: Yes.
DIRECTOR ROLLASON: Yes. We can give
you a copy of that.
MR. MITCHELL: I will check with the --
for us to give us -- for them to give us a
total acreage, square footage. So this is
valid information.
MR. BLOOM: They have that as part of
the response based upon the tax rolls.
MR. HALL: No. I don't think so. He is
talking about the net after the dedicated is
taken away, which is different from the
square footage in the RFP.
MR. BLOOM: And added.
MR. HALL: Sorry?
MR. BLOOM: And added. You are taking
some away and you are adding square footage.
MR. HALL: I am just saying it would be
very useful to us to get the square footage
that he has in mind.
DIRECTOR ROLLASON: Francis, when will
we get that information?
MR. MITCHELL: This afternoon.
DIRECTOR ROLLASON: What would you
figure 2:00, 3:00 that I would have it here
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that I can have them come back and pick up
whatever they want? When will there be
documents here that they can pick up?
MR. MITCHELL: Yes. Let's say 2:30.
DIRECTOR ROLLASON: So let's say 3:00.
Come here by 3:00, pick up whatever we have
delivered to us by Public Works.
MR. CARBONELL: What kind of form is it
going to be? Is it going to be 8 and a half
by 11, or is it going to be a plan? Because
if it's a plan, you are going to need to make
copies. You can't push them.
DIRECTOR ROLLASON: I can copy them
here.
MR. BLOOM: Ideally it will be a smaller
scale.
MR. CARBONELL: But I know what he has.
DIRECTOR ROLLASON: If you can put them
on 11 by 17, we can copy that here.
MR. SCHWARTZ: Can it be e-mailed?
MS. WRIGHT: Sometimes those are large.
MR. HALL: I'd just like to ask the
general counsel whether any of the new
information changes their position.
MS. WRIGHT: In my estimation, no. And
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according to the request for proposal and the
general information, it says that the
proposal should be prepared for -- all
respondents must include in their proposal a
plan for replatting of the property.
Some of the replatting that he has
mentioned probably could be contemplated
within that. And it seems like the City may
be already in the process of doing that for
you. So --
MR. HALL: But the dedication lines have
nothing to do with the replatting. The
dedication lines are --
MR. BLOOM: Dedications have everything
to do with replatting. Because when you
replat the --
MR. HALL: No. What I'm talking about
is the dedication that is associated with the
widening of Eighth Street has nothing to do
with the replatting.
MR. BLOOM: It has everything to do with
replatting. When you go in to replat your
property, Public Works will always evaluate
their right of way needs. If they have
additional right of way needs, they will
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require it to be dedicated as part of the
replat process.
MR. HALL: The RFP refers to replatting
of the Lyric property -- the Lyric lots.
MS. WRIGHT: The RFP refers to
replatting of the entire property that's
being contemplated by the RFP.
In addition to that, the RFP does say
specifically that any and all information
that's available in the City is available to
you.
DIRECTOR ROLLASON: I hope we are not
getting confused between the replatting that
was ordered by the City to do the replat,
which specifically stated for us to replat
that alleyway and come up with a way that
that additional 50 feet could be dedicated
and carved out separately without having to
go back for a replat. And that's why it's
being replatted in that method.
That, however, does not require somebody
that develops the property to have to
dedicate that 50 feet to the Lyric Theater.
But if that's what comes to be by act of the
Commission or it's carved out by the
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Commission, then we don't have to go back and
replat it with the plat that the City is
doing.
Now, somebody proposing a development of
Block 36 can propose whatever plat they want
to have in their proposal. It doesn't have
to be what the City is proposing.
MR. BLOOM: The 50 feet you are talking
about is carved out of the RFP.
DIRECTOR ROLLASON: That's correct.
It's carved out of the RFP.
But what I am saying to you is that the
people that are developing that particular
lot, the block or whatever development they
want to have, they can do something in
conjunction with the Lyric Theater or they
can do something without the Lyric Theater.
But that property that's called out
there has not been conveyed to anybody, but
is being platted by the City -- replatted by
the City. So if the City decides to convey
that property to the Lyric, we don't have to
go back and replat this thing again because
we have drawn the line so that 50 feet is
there already.
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MR. SCHWARTZ: Frank, I assume that
Northwest First Court is being vacated as
part of the replat. This is what it shows.
So that's something that the City has
initiated.
MR. MITCHELL: Yes.
DIRECTOR ROLLASON: Did you get an
answer to that question?
MR. SCHWARTZ: Yes.
MR. MITCHELL: Yes.
MR. SCHWARTZ: So if this plat, the way
it's proceeding now, would be acceptable to
the developer, then there is no need for
someone else to initiate another replatting
of this property. I assume that the City is
handling the expenses and cost of this.
DIRECTOR ROLLASON: The City is going
through the replat right now.
But there is a requirement in here.
What did it read again?
All respondents must include in their
proposal a plan for the replatting of the
property. Whatever you are plan is for the
replatting of the property.
MR. SCHWARTZ: But if you are replatting
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it and it is acceptable to a development
scheme --
DIRECTOR ROLLASON: Was that your plan?
MR. SCHWARTZ: Well --
MR. BLOOM: To clarify, the tentative
process includes a 50 foot strip that goes
from the northern line of the northern most
parcel of that Black Archives owns, the Lyric
Theater, the 50-foot strip that was carved
out by the CRA owned property subject to RFP,
only goes to the north line of the lot with
theater.
DIRECTOR ROLLASON: So the theater is on
it itself.
MR. BLOOM: So there is probably a
discrepancy between 50 and 100 feet between
those.
MS. WRIGHT: And then also take into
consideration that the replatting process
that the City is going through is not
guaranteed because it's subject to several
steps.
MR. BACON: But this would become part
of the buildable area of this -- this would
be --
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MR. BLOOM: I am going to have this
copied. A portion of the property was
excluded from the -- our legal description
went to the north line of the parcel where
the Lyric Theater is located.
The City's replat goes three blocks
further to the north.
DIRECTOR ROLLASON: Which is probably
behind the expansion of the theater right
now. Because the next two blocks are owned
by the County.
MR. BLOOM: Which is probably
approximately 75 feet.
MR. SCHWARTZ: So are there any
utilities?
Well, I guess if the City is replatting
it, are there any utilities relocations
required for Northwest First Court?
MR. MITCHELL: Yes. If any developer
that will plan to do something here, if they
are going to go to the replatting process,
then they -- they will have to relocate those
utilities, any stumps or water main. You
know, that will be -- that will be their plan
to do so.
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MR. SCHWARTZ: Do you know right now
what is in place there --
MR. MITCHELL: No.
MR. SCHWARTZ: -- First Court?
MR. MITCHELL: No.
MR. SCHWARTZ: I think that would be
helpful to know if there is any.
MR. MITCHELL: I will provide this
information.
MR. SCHWARTZ: Thank you.
MR. BLOOM: Is that information that you
will be able to have by 2:30 today?
MR. MITCHELL: Yes.
DIRECTOR ROLLASON: All right. Anything
else?
MS. FERGUSON: Is there a possibility
that you can have a time extension on the due
date, proposal due date?
DIRECTOR ROLLASON: That's not my plan
at this point, but that's not my decision. I
have past this up to the Board, to the
chairman, and I will wait to see what he
wants to do.
MS. FERGUSON: Yeah. Well, I request a
time extension.
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DIRECTOR ROLLASON: Who did you request
that to?
MS. FERGUSON: No. I'm saying I'm
asking right now. If you can ask the
people.
DIRECTOR ROLLASON: Yes. We have a
request. We have a written request for an
extension. And we forwarded that to the
chairman and the board members this morning.
MS. FERGUSON: What time was that?
DIRECTOR ROLLASON: What time was it
forwarded?
MS. FERGUSON: No. What time was the
time requested extension for?
DIRECTOR ROLLASON: 30 days.
MS. FERGUSON: Two weeks, another
month?
DIRECTOR ROLLASON: 30 days, minimum of
30 days. A minimum of 30 days from this date
or 30 days from the July 16th due date.
MS. FERGUSON: So August.
MR. HALL: I just have another --
MS. FERGUSON: That's due. So how soon
will you get a response from them on that?
DIRECTOR ROLLASON: I'm not sure of
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that. I may not see him until tomorrow at
the commission meeting.
MS. FERGUSON: You are going to put out
an addendum if it happens?
DIRECTOR ROLLASON: Well, he won't be
able to do it either. There will have to be
a board meeting if that's going to take
place. That will be advertised and so forth,
and then there will be discussion. And there
will be people that are in favor of it and
people that are opposed to it.
MR. BLOOM: But to repeat, the general
counsel has concluded there was no mechanism
in the Florida statute for there to be an
extension. So the Board will be left the
choice of rescinding this RFP and doing a new
RFP.
MR. HALL: I have another
clarification.
Where it says all respondents must
include in their proposal a plan for
replatting of the property, that is not
specifically focused on the Lyric lot.
DIRECTOR ROLLASON: No. It's focused --
listen, we are on Block 36. That's what we
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have, Block 36.
MR. HALL: Okay.
DIRECTOR ROLLASON: What is happening
with the replat is -- that's what I am
saying, it was an action by the Commission to
carve a piece out of Block 36 to preserve
that with the thought, depending on what the
development that comes forward, so that that
50 feet can be protected for the expansion of
the Lyric Theater.
And if we were to include that 50 feet
in the Block 36 development, somebody can
come along with a proposal that has nothing
to do with the Lyric Theater. And then we
would be in that battle trying to carve out
50 feet for the Lyric Theater.
So I mean, the Commission's intent is to
try to get the 10-foot alleyway to the Lyric
Theater, and to get 50 feet of the property
immediately behind the theater over to the
Lyric Theater in one form or another.
MR. HALL: Let me rephrase the
question.
Is this saying that the development
proposal needs to include the plans for
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picking up the cost of the City's replatting
process for those Lyric lots? Are you doing
that and you are paying for it, too?
DIRECTOR ROLLASON: We are going to --
the City is replatting that property at no
cost to whatever is happening at this point.
But you, as a developer, are asked to
submit to us what your plan is for replatting
that property that we put out there
available. There are streets running through
it.
MR. HALL: With the exception of those
lots that you are replatting. We don't need
to do anything with the lots that you are
replatting. We just need to replat the rest
of it.
MS. WRIGHT: It is your choice as the
developer.
MR. HALL: I'm sorry?
MS. WRIGHT: It's your choice as the
developer.
DIRECTOR ROLLASON: You can say that
your plan is that we go along with the City's
replat.
MR. BLOOM: With respect to the replat,
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to the extent that the replat requires a
relocation of those utilities in the roadways
that are being vacated, that's not an expense
the City is taking as part of the replat
process. It would be a condition, and the
developer would have to bear the cost of it.
DIRECTOR ROLLASON: You mean the actual
physical removal.
MR. BLOOM: Yes.
DIRECTOR ROLLASON: Oh, absolutely,
absolutely.
This is just where the lines would be is
what we are doing.
I mean, somehow in your responses, you
have to address the replatting issue. I
mean, it's mandatory. It says it here. What
is your plan?
MS. ARSCOTT-DOUGLAS: Now, we are
conducting a Phase 1 environmental and
surveys on this site. And on the CD that we
have here, we have the most recent appraisals
on the site.
DIRECTOR ROLLASON: We will give those
to you.
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appraisals on that site, don't you?
DIRECTOR ROLLASON: Yes.
MR. SCHWARTZ: This is just the most
recent.
DIRECTOR ROLLASON: Yes.
All right. Any other questions?
Anything for the zoning person?
Because I know you are supposed to be
back over there.
If you have no other questions. If
there is no other questions on zoning, I will
let Javier get out of here.
Thank you very much.
Our intent is to -- anybody interested
in taking a site visit over there to Site
36? We can certainly do that if that's
anybody's desire.
We got one -- two, three, four. All
right. Well, all we needed was one.
And listen, our intent is to take --
over there to the lot, walk around, see what
other questions may result. And if questions
do result, we will come back over here. I
would like to get them on the record so we
can, you know, jot them down. Come back over
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here.
The court reporter will be here. We are
not going to drag the court reporter out to
the lot. And we will come back and we will
put the questions on the record so we get the
answers.
MR. BACON: Will that be available?
You are going to answer questions here
or on the lot? I'm just curious.
DIRECTOR ROLLASON: No. I mean, we will
walk out there, whatever. We will come back
here and put the questions on the record.
MR. BLOOM: I think it would be better
if people walk around the site, don't ask
questions on the site, comeback here and ask
all the questions here so they are on the
record and your responses are on the record
as opposed to saying it was a different
response at the site.
DIRECTOR ROLLASON: At the lot than
there was here.
MR. HALL: There will be the transcript
of this session?
DIRECTOR ROLLASON: Yes.
MR. HALL: When will that be available?
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DIRECTOR ROLLASON: Do you know when?
COURT REPORTER: When do you need it?
You can have it tomorrow if you need it.
DIRECTOR ROLLASON: Tomorrow is fine.
MS. ARSCOTT-DOUGLAS: It will be posted
on line as well.
MR. HALL: Sorry?
MS. ARSCOTT-DOUGLAS: It will be posted
on line, the minutes and everything else.
DIRECTOR ROLLASON: Okay. So if we are
done at this stage, we will meet you all over
there at Block 36.
Where do we actually want to meet?
MS. ARSCOTT-DOUGLAS: Right there on
Eighth Street right in front of the
Metrorail.
DIRECTOR ROLLASON: That corner by the
rail at Eighth Street. There is an entrance
right here. I guess we can park in the lot
across the street and just walk over to the
corner.
MR. SCHWARTZ: Do you have a copy of the
sign -in sheet?
DIRECTOR ROLLASON: We ought to do that
now in case some of you aren't coming back.
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(Recess in Proceedings for site visit)
DIRECTOR ROLLASON: Let's go on the
record.
Okay. Now we have been out to the
site. Any questions that we have as a result
of that visit that people have questions on?
We will get those answers for you.
MS. FERGUSON: These two cannot be
developed on. Is that what you are saying?
DIRECTOR ROLLASON: These two? Are you
talking about the --
MS. FERGUSON: 50 feet.
DIRECTOR ROLLASON: That's carved out
from the RFP.
MS. FERGUSON: The street cannot be
develop on.
DIRECTOR ROLLASON: The street is
developable. That is going to be abandoned
by the plat.
Now, the developer can propose to us to
keep the street and do a development with the
street there with their replat. But our
position right now is to abandon that
street.
MS. ARSCOTT-DOUGLAS: And for the
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record, the street is First Court.
DIRECTOR ROLLASON: Right.
MR. SHAW: Who has control of the Ninth
Street Mall, is that the county or the city
or CRA?
DIRECTOR ROLLASON: It's Public Works.
That is their right of way. And we have --
MR. SHAW: Included the details and the
design, that was in there?
DIRECTOR ROLLASON: We have that, right,
Chelsa?
MS. ARSCOTT-DOUGLAS: We have that on
our portion. The original plan --
DIRECTOR ROLLASON: Was the County.
MS. ARSCOTT-DOUGLAS: -- was Dade
County.
DIRECTOR ROLLASON: The original piece
that runs there by the Lyric Theater was done
during the Summit of the Americas, and that
was done by the County.
MS. FERGUSON: And you are going to go
to the Commission and ask them for the
extension for the July meeting or the CRA?
DIRECTOR ROLLASON: I'm not planning on
doing that, no.
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MS. FERGUSON: So what does that mean
for the time extension for the request for
proposal?
DIRECTOR ROLLASON: Unless the chairman
decides to call a board meeting to -- he is
aware of this. He has been provided
everything. He can call a board meeting to
discuss this and decide at that time. With
what legal counsel advises their options,
then they can take whatever action they want
to take.
Right now my position is July 16th is
the due date.
MS. FERGUSON: That's next week.
DIRECTOR ROLLASON: There you go.
MS. FERGUSON: And the proposal was out
since June?
DIRECTOR ROLLASON: Since May.
MR. BLOOM: There was a preliminary
proposal sent out. And then -- Chelsa, when
was the first day we published notice of the
RFP?
DIRECTOR ROLLASON: Like May 13th.
MS. FERGUSON: No. I'm talking about
the date it actually --
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DIRECTOR ROLLASON: The notice of intent
was May 13th. June 17th the RFP went out
with the due date of July 16th.
MS. FERGUSON: Four weeks?
DIRECTOR ROLLASON: 30 days.
MS. FERGUSON: Not enough days.
MR. BLOOM: 30 days is what the statute
requires.
DIRECTOR ROLLASON: The law says 30
days. And we -- because we felt that you
should have more time to be able to start to
get your stuff together, we advertised an
additional 30 days to let everybody know that
it was our intent to go out in 30 days with
the RFP with this.
MS. FERGUSON: Well, let me ask you
this. You say the law says 30 days.
DIRECTOR ROLLASON: Uh-huh.
MS. FERGUSON: It's 30 days from the
time you put the proposal out.
DIRECTOR ROLLASON: Right. The request
must be in within 30 days.
MS. FERGUSON: The responses must be in.
DIRECTOR ROLLASON: Yes.
MS. FERGUSON: That's not enough time to
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do a proposal.
Now, what law is that? Is it a CRA law
or --
MS. WRIGHT: No. It's based on the
Florida Statute.
MS. FERGUSON: It's a state law.
MS. WRIGHT: It's a state law.
MS. FERGUSON: Okay. So if we wanted to
have that changed, we would have to appeal to
the --
MS. WRIGHT: The legislature.
MS. FERGUSON: 30 days is not -- four
weeks is not enough time to put a proposal
together, a decent one.
DIRECTOR ROLLASON: And I think the
Commission, with some of the arguing that
went on with the deal with the 30 days --
MS. FERGUSON: Four weeks?
DIRECTOR ROLLASON: Listen for a
second. .
MS. FERGUSON: Not unless you are very
experienced.
DIRECTOR ROLLASON: So the Commission
listened to argument about 30 days being too
short and added another 30 days by putting
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in 30 days from now, we are going to put out
an RFP that's going to look just like this to
develop this block.
So that gave people that wanted to start
to gather their stuff to put it together an
additional 30 days.
MS. FERGUSON: Okay. That's fine.
But really going back to the state and
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instead of 60 days for developers to -- you
know -- respond to proposals, I would go to
the community affairs division --
department. Is that correct?
MS. WRIGHT: I wouldn't think so. It
would seem to me that it would require a '
change of the statute through the Florida
Legislature.
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MS. FERGUSON: That's what I'm saying.
The community affairs of the Florida
Legislature, I would go to them. Is that the
branch of government that I go to to ask for
this appeal?
MR. BLOOM: You would have to go to the
Florida Legislature, the senate, the house.
MS. FERGUSON: Oh, not the specific
community affairs department.
MR. BLOOM: No.
DIRECTOR ROLLASON: Chelsa is asking
about this map again. Should we make it
Addendum 3?
We have given the site map out, and we
will call it Addendum 3. And then we will
see what we get delivered from Public Works
this afternoon, and we will add those on,
whatever they are.
But this has been given out to
everybody, so we will make that Addendum 3.
MS. ARSCOTT-DOUGLAS: Addendum 1 is the
notice of this workshop.
Addendum 2 is the questions and
answers.
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Lot 36.
(Thereupon, Notice of Workshop, Q & A
and Site Plan were marked as Agendums 1,
2 and 3 for Identification.)
DIRECTOR ROLLASON: Any further
questions of anybody?
MS. FERGUSON: There was a page here
that you have a signature for, the Addendum
1. Do you want that now or do you want it
with the proposal?
MS. ARSCOTT-DOUGLAS: When you submit
the proposal. And it's 10 proposals for each
category. And there are two categories. One
is the price category and one is the
development project category, which is listed
on the RFP that you have there.
MS. FERGUSON: What are you talking
about 10? What's the 10?
DIRECTOR ROLLASON: 10 sets, 10 copies.
MS. FERGUSON: Okay. Now, for Addendum
2 and 3, you have a signature for those,
too?
MS. ARSCOTT-DOUGLAS: Yes.
MS. FERGUSON: Are you going to send
them out?
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MS. FERGUSON: Before the 16th?
MS. ARSCOTT-DOUGLAS: Yes.
DIRECTOR ROLLASON: Anything else?
Going once. Going twice.
All right. I appreciate you all
coming. The meeting is officially over.
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CERTIFICATE OF NOTARY
STATE OF FLORIDA:
SS.
(COUNTY OF DADE:
I, JEANNETTE ALVAREZ, a Shorthand
Reporter and Notary Public in and for the State of
Florida at Large, do hereby certify that I
reported in shorthand the proceedings in the
above -styled cause at the time and place as set
forth; that the foregoing pages, numbered from 1
to 62, inclusive, constitute a true record.
I further certify that I am not an
attorney or counsel of any of the parties, nor
related to any of the parties, nor financially
interested in the action.
WITNESS my Hand and Official Seal this
8th day of July, 2004.
O�P�Y Pie OFFICIAL NOTARY SEAL
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