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HomeMy WebLinkAboutSEOPW OMNI CRA 1996-11-18 MinutesCI" a nommon** AREA 1 CoMM%Jt"" REpEVE►-D�EN'6 MINUTES v _____ ............... ................ . .. ON of: CIV caf ky* ior INDEX MINUTES OF THE OMNI REDEVELOPMENT MEETING November 19, 1996 ITEM SUBJECT LEGISLATION PAGE NO. NO. 1. PRESENTATION / BRIEF DISCUSSION DISCUSSION 2-3 OF FY' 1996-97 CRA PROPOSED 11/18/96 BUDGET PRIOR TO FORWARDING TO CITY MANAGER. 2. INSTRUCT CRA EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OMNI/CRA •8 TO CONTACT METRO-DADE COMMISSION M 96-8 FINANCE CHAIRMAN AND ARRANGE A 11/18/96 MEETING REGARDING TIMETABLE SURROUNDING EXECUTION OF SAID AGREEMENT AS WELL AS DIFFERENCES BETWEEN ORIGINAL DRAFT OF SAME AND THE AMENDMENT TO THE REDEVELOPMENT PLAN. 3. RENEW CRA OFFICE LEASE AT DUPONT OMNI/CRA 8-12 PLAZA FOR $18,000. M 96-9 11/18/96 4. DISCUSS / DEFER RENEWING DISCUSSION 12-'l PROFESSIONAL SERVICE AGREEMENT 11/18/96 WITH NATIONAL DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL, INC. 5. DISCUSS LIST OF RECOMMENDED DISCUSSION - 18 APPRAISERS TO APPRAISE CITY LAND 11/18/96 FOR DISPOSAL AT FAIR MARKET VALUE -- GIVE PRIORITY TO CITY OF MIAMI FIRMS. 6. DISCUSS SCHEDULING NEXT CRA OMNI/CRA i6 MEETING IN DECEMBER, 1996. M 96-10 11/18/96 7. (A) DISCUSS WITH COMMUNITY REPRESENTATIVE ELEANOR KLUGER COMPOSITION OF ADVISORY BOARD SELECTION PROCEDURES - BRING BACK SAME AT A LATER DATE FOR CONFIRMATION OF SAME. (B) ELECTED COMMISSIONER HUMBERTO HERNANDEZ. DISCUSSION 21-26 11/18/96 MINUTES OF OMNI REDEVELOPMENT MEETING OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF MIAMI, FLORIDA On the 18th day of November, 1996, the Miami, Florida in the Grand Condominium/Double Tree Hotel, 1717 South Bayshore Drive, Miami, Florida regular in session. The meeting was called to order at 7:10 p.m. by Vice -Chairman Wifredo Gort with the following members of the Board found to be present: ALSO PRESENT: ABSENT: Vice -Chairman Wifredo Gort Board Member Tomas Regalado Board Member J.L. Plummer, Jr. Walter J. Foeman, City Clerk Maria J. Argudin, Assistant City Clerk Herb Bailey, Executive Director Robert Friedman, Legal Counsel Board Member Humberto Hernandez Board Member Joe Carollo COMMENTS RECORDED PRIOR TO BEGINNING THE MEETING. Board Member Plummer: ... the activity formula, the agenda or things of that nature and wants to know why City staff is not doing such, and I'm trying to explain to her that you are in charge of the CRA, and it would be your responsibility and your staff to do it. Now would yt �, like tv answer that, because obviously the answer I'm giving is not that... Mr. Herbert Bailey: ... done sooner. Ms. Sheila Anderson: I don't want an answer I just want documents available for public record. Mr. Bailey: Their... they're over there, we do have them. Ms. Anderson: You have them on the agenda. Mr. Bailey: No, no, we have copies of the packet, and its available right here at the meeting; and it's right there. Ms. Anderson: Well you need to inform your staff and make them available to the public. Mr. Bailey: It is available for the public. Ms. Anderson: They don't know it. Mr. Bailey: Yeah, alright. Board Member Gort: We got a quorum? Board Member Plummer: Yeah we got a quorum, let's do it. Board Member Plummer led those present in a pledge of allegiance to the flag. Board Member Gort: I need approval of the minutes of October 28, 1996. Walter Foeman (City Clerk): Excuse me, there are no minutes for this meeting. We don't have any minutes available. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------..- ------ 1. PRESENTATION / BRIEF DISCUSSION OF FY' 1996-97 CRA PROPObl:D , BUDGET PRIOR TO FORWARDING TO CITY MANAGER. Board Member Gort: FY 1996-97 CRA budget with 23% reduction. Mr. Bailey: We were requested by the administration to do three reductions, we did so. We were available to reduce our budget because we had made the decision, which is Item #5 to remain for the next nine months at the Dupont for which we have a substantially cheaper rent. The Citadel is not quite ready for us to occupy. So, the maximum amount we were required to reduce it by was 15 so we've been able to achieve a 23% reduction, and we are submitting th', budget to the Manager as our final draft of what our budget should be for the next year. Board Member Gort: Do you need any action from us? Mr. Bailey: None at all. Board Member Plummer: Mr. Vice Chairman? Board Member Gort: Yes, sir. Board Member Plummer: I would like to defer this at this time. As everybody knows, everything at the City is being discussed right now, as far as dollars and cents are concerned. I would want to provide enough adequate funding at this time to carry them through, I think we've taken you through for what, one -twelfth or two -twelfths? Mr. Bailey: It really hasn't been working that way, Commissioner. The budget that we were given already was 40% under funded. The one that's in the budget book... Board Member Plummer: That's not my point and I'm not gonna go into the point I made to you before, but I'm sure it's gonna be effected and that's why I want to defer it at this time. 2 November 18, 1996 Mr. Bailey: We're not asking for an approval... Board Member Plummer: Oh, O.K. Mr. Bailey: ... we're just gonna give this to the manager with the rest of the hudgct:.!,nd th. v budgetary decision will be made with all the other budgets, but we have to, at least, have something to pass on to the Manager that has been passed by this board. And then it'll take it's place before the Commission with all the other budgets. Board Member Plummer: In other words you're not asking that this board recommend? Mr. Bailey: We're not asking to recommend. We're just giving them to you with other information because we were requested to have this board look at it before we give it to the Manager. We're not asking for approval. I think approval has to come when the total budget has been approved for the entire City. Board Member Plummer: Alright, sir. Board Member Gort: Thank you, is there any questions? O.K. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2. UPDATE ON INTERLOCAL COOPERATION AGREEMENT COUNTY PROPOSES AMENDMENT TO REDEVELOPMENT PLAN •PRIO1k,, .; TO SIGNING INTERLOCAL -- REQUEST TO INVITE DADE COUNTY'S FINANCE COMMITEE CHAIRPERSON TO NEXT CRA MEETING. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Board Member Gort: Item 4, update on the interlocal corporation agreement between... Board Member Plummer: It's not signed. Mr. Bailey: We're gonna defer that to our attorney. We... after ten and a half years we still don't have a signed interlocal agreement, and all the money that is supposed to come to this community are still being spent in the general fund. We have had some dialogue interfacing with the County, and the County's attorney's office and with our Attorney's office, so I'll let Bob Friedman give you an update as to where we are and what the problems are. Board Member Plummer: Where we're not. Board Member Gort: O.K., yes, Mr. Friedman. Robert Friedman: The basic problem is that the draft of the Interlocal Cooperation Agreement calls for a maximum allowance to the County from the tax increment revenues of one point four million ($1,400,000), isn't it? Mr. Bailey: One four, yeah. Mr. Friedman: Yeah, one point four million per year which everybody had reviewed and had agreed on. The problem is that previously this board had approved an amendment to the redevelopment plan providing for a one million dollar ($1,000,000) per year allowance for tl-b-, Performing Arts Center. The County staff did not want to go forward with the execution of the 3 November 14� 1990 Interlocal Cooperation Agreement which had a different amount for that purpose from the redevelopment plan. So the execution of the Interlocal Cooperation Agreement has been held up for that reason. Board Member Gort: Any idea for how long or what do they expect from us? They uy:at us to change it or? Mr. Friedman: What they want is an amendment to the redevelopment plan to make it consistent with what was in the subsequent agreeement on the amount. And it just hasn't moved forward at this time. Board Member Plummer: Well, you've gotta add in there because there's people here that don't remember, and that is the declining amount of revenue that we're anticipating that is going to be forthcoming to the CRA. And we know that, in fact, there's not even gone be a million dollars worth of revenue coming in. It's gone be less. Herb, what is it, five hundred and... six hundred and eighty, six hundred thousand? Mr. Bailey: Six hundred forty-three thousand, something, about six hundred thousand. Board Member Plummer: So I don't know how we can change it without the aspect -of knowing exactly that you are not gonna have a million dollars. How can you sit there and obligate yourself, which I understand up to a million dollars, and it's not accurate over a periods of time, it's on each individual year? But, I think that they're being foolish, as far as I can see, to ask us to put into a million dollar or a million four when we know it's gonna be under ' hundred thousand dollars. I mean I don't understand what they're trying to accomplish here, wi,ess they think maybe in twenty years there's gonna be a hell of a lot more revenue coming into the CRA. But, as I see it, you got a lot of things happening in the CRA, but they're all non-taxable. They're all non-taxable. Mr. Bailey: The way we see it, Commissioner, and we agree with you, first of all, the redevelopment plans are merely guides to indicate what kind of activities we're going to undertake in the redevelopment area. It's never absolute, in fact in most cases when we pass a redevelopment plan, within six months some condition has caused some of the elements to be changed and we never have to go back and amend those. The dollar amount per project 4t, never absolute. We have in there, and we amended it just to permit us, legally, to do the public preference project which is the Performing Arts Theatre. We contend that it is not necess'.,. , to adjust the amount in the redevelopment plan, in as much as you have already passed legislation that specifically says up to one point four million dollars. What happens here is that this community is continually losing more and more money cause every year they don't sign that, that money goes back to the general fund. We have already commited to this community to do some improvements at Margaret Pace Park with the four hundred thousand, and the County has commited to give that, so until they sign that agreement which gives us the authority to manage the fund, we'll never be able to go forward. And, I contend that this notion that the redevelopment plan in dollar amount must be very specific as it relates to the other legislation which supersedes that anyway, is just ridiculous. And, I don't think that, in my opinion, and I've talked to one Commissioner this morning, that the County, in this regard, is acting in the best faith. Now what is gonna happen here, unless that interlocal agreement is signed, and that the City of Miami agrees, no funding for the Performing Arts Theatre, and I understand that the new Arena is somewhat tied into this overall financing strategy, and what happened? That may be our ace in the hole, but that ace in the hole still hurts the community. Board Member Plummer: Mr. Vice -Chairman, I would make a motion at this time that Mr. Bailey invite to the next meeting of the CRA, the chairman of that commitee which is in urge of this particular issue, and invite him here to face the people of this community who are t'vor y unhappy about the fact that that thing has not been signed, I so move. 4 Novembei :16, 1996 Board Member Gort: O.K. there's a motion, is there a second? Board Member Regalado: Second. Board Member Gort: This be moved, and second. Under discussion, Herb by any chance you know who is the chairperson? Mr. Bailey: Yes, well, in fact, we invited them to this meeting, unfortunately, no one from the Perfoming Arts came nor did Mr. Thompson. We'll give him another invitation in writing and insist that... Board Member Gort: But let me ask you a question. I thought it was the County that takes the decision on this? Board Member Plummer: County Commission. Mr. Bailey: The County does make the decision, but the chairman of the Performing Arts Trust works with the County staff... Board Member Gort: Fine but let me ask you a question Herb... Mr. Bailey: ... and then it's the, I'm sorry Commissioner, but then it's the County Attorney's office that seems to be the stumbling block in this situation. Board Member Gort: Let me ask you a question. Which commitee of the County structure that this falls into? Mr. Bailey: That's the Finance Commitee. Board Member Gort: Finance Commitee? Mr. Bailey: Yes. And that's chaired by... I don't know now. They have a new group of peopiv j there. It used to be Mr. Penelas, but he's not there now. Board Member Gort: O.K. why don't we try to set up a meeting, if possible, either myself or the mayor with... Mr. Bailey: I would be... that would be helpful. Board Member Gort: ... let's set up a meeting, I would like to be, before we come to the next meeting, I would like to sit down wih him and go over this and see if we can get it over with. Mr. Bailey: That would be helpful, Mr. Vice Mayor, and we could go to the County and meet. I mean we've done it several times before but another trip wouldn't hurt. Board Member Gort: Well let's do it this time, and I would be willing to go with you and see if we can get it out of the way. Mr. Bailey: We'll set it up immediately. Board Member Gort: Yes sir? Phillip Yaffa: It is my understanding, Herb correct me, that if the Interlocal Agreement it not signed in the calendar year of 1996, then the Omni area is going to lose the tour hundre 5 November 1*,. 1996 thousand dollar ($400,000) allocation that the Interlocal Agreement calls for. And, I'm noting that our next board meeting is on December 16th, and 1 wonder if, just informally, you might be able to keep your motion alive, but maybe Herb you can encourage... Board Member Gort: That's what I'm trying to do, set up a meeting so that we can go there and see if we can get it signed. Mr. Yaffa: ...so if you could have any shot at getting it signed this calendar year. Mr. Bailey: Yes. Board Member Gort: Yes? We'll do that. Mr. Joseph do you want to speak? Fred Joseph: At the last Performing Arts Trust, they were very upset about the same scenario, that this has not been signed, so I don't... pretend to put it on the chair of that, but they were very surprised. Mr. Bailey: They were upset, and I had talked to Mr. Thompson, and however, the County... their attorney's seemed to have a certain amount of clout for which very few people are willing to override. Mr. Joseph: But I agree with you but going back to Commissioner Plummer's recommendation, bring that person before this commitee, but please do it when it's in the Omni area, not when it's in the Miami Arena area because that doesn't serve much of a purpose for this district. Mr. Bailey: We'll do that sir. Board Member Gort: We will. Mr. Joseph: And, I'm sorry, have you got a chair for this CRA yet? Mr. Bailey: No, I think the City Commission might address that issue, I can't speak for the Viv- Mayor, I'll let him speak. Board Member Gort: Ms. Anderson? Sheila Anderson: Just a point of... Board Member Regalado: The next meeting will be, I'm sorry, the next meeting will be on the Arena on the 16th. Mr. Joseph: Yes, and that disturbed me because unless we did a swap around, we could be... Board Member Gort: Joseph, we gonna try to set up a meeting before the next meeting to see if we can expedite this. Mr. Joseph: Thank you. Ms. Anderson: Mr. Gort, point of clarification. The Performing Arts Center Trust is an advisory board. The County Commission makes all the decisions. The last chairman of the Finance Commitee, I believe, was Commissioner Margolis who is now the chairman of the County Commision, and I believe if you contact her office and speak to Sandra Reeth who is very familiar with all of this, that you'll get to the right place. 6 November 18, 1996 Board Member Gort: O.K. thank you Sheila. Yes, Mr. Goenaga? Manuel Gonzalez-Goenaga: My name is Manny "Speedy" Gonzalez because I just today register for office in next September or October. Well it seems to me that everytime I come to these meetings there is always the blame is always put outside of here. I have attended previous meetings, and I have seen representatives from the Dade County. Maybe, with all due respect, .;., they think that we are good for nothing, and that it doesn't matter what we decide. They do whatever they want. I strongly not... this is not an invitation, it's demanding from the citizens of Miami, and these honorable group of people who are present today, that we want to hear them and question them, not an invitation. Because I come here, I was not invited, but since I heard there was some food, and it's always good I come. Board Member Gort: Yes sir? Yes ma'am? Eleanor Kluger: Yes, I'm Eleanor Kluger, and I represent the Omni/Venetia Incorporated. Our group wants you, Mr. Gort, to make that meeting with the county before... as quickly as possit)l . We feel it's quite urgent, we would like our... the city attorney's to go meet with the county attorney and the Finance Commitee and see if we can get that signed. I was here in May w€,be we signed our end of it, and this is six months later and now you're telling us to wait another month, and then we're gonna miss this year... Board Member Plummer: We're not telling you that. Ms. Kluger: O.K. well that, Mr. Plummer, was your suggestion, to wait to come back for another meeting. And Mr. Bailey has said, he already invited him to a meeting for here, so we ` may have the same situation come next meeting. So, I don't wanna wait for next meeting, and I would really wholeheartedly endorse Mr. Gort's... Board Member Gort: What I'm saying tonight is I'm gonna instruct Mr. Herb Bailey to maw the phone call first thing tomorrow morning... set up the meeting with Senator Margolis-. She's the chairperson of the Finance Commitee and we'll sit down with her, and we'll go over this. Ms. Kluger: Right, this is the suggestion I wish this board would take, thank you. Board Member Gort: Thank you, ma'am. Yes sir? Mr. Joseph: And we'll be happy to represent and go with you if you desire. Board Member Gort: I appreciate it, but this should be a one to one. Thank you sir. Board Member Plummer: Call the roll. Board Member Gort: O.K. all in favor say it by saying "aye". The Board (Collectively): Aye. 7 November 18, 1996 The following motion was introduced by Board Member Plummer, who moved its adoption: OMNI/CRA MOTION NO. 96-8 A MOTION INSTRUCTING THE COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT .AUENCY EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR HERBERT BAILEY TO CONTACT METRO-DADE COUNTY COMMISSION FINANCE CHAIRMAN GWEN MARGOLIS FOR THE PURPOSE OF HAVING HER SIT DOWN WITH COMMISSIONER GORT AND MR. BAILEY AND DISCUSSING THE STATUS OF THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT, WHICH HAS NOT BEEN EXECUTED DUE TO THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE DRAFT INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT, CALLING FOR A MAXIMUM ALLOWANCE TO THE COUNTY FROM THE TAX INCREMENT REVENUES OF $1,400,000 AND THE AMENDMENT TO THE REDEVELOPMENT PLAN, WHICH PROVIDED FOR $1,000,000 FOR $1,000,000 PER ALLOWANCE FOR THE PERFORMING ARTS CENTER. Upon being seconded by Board Member Regalado, the motion was passed and adopted by the following vote: AYES: Board Member Tomas Regalado Board Member J. L. Plummer Jr. Board Member Wifredo Gort NAYS: None. ABSENT: Board Member Humberto Hernandez Board Member Joe Carollo ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------•- 3. RENEW CRA OFFICE LEASE AT DUPONT PLAZA FOR $18,000. Board Member Gort: O.K. CRA office lease at Dupont Plaza. Mr. Bailey: We have decided to remain at the Dupont until August, that's the time that some other City agencies have been extended to, until August, and then we'll decide as to whether or not we'll be able to go into the project area. This decision will have an economic benefit, we were able to reduce our rent... Board Member Plummer: So move it. Mr. Bailey: by eighty thousand dollars ($80,000) or so. Board Member Gort: O.K. it's been moved and seconded. Board Member Regalado: Don't we have, excuse me... Board Member Gort: Will you second it, Commissioner? Board Member Regalado: Do we have space... November 18, 19% nor 1 Board Member Gort: Mr. Regalado, will you second the motion so we can discuss it? Board Member Regalado: Yes I will. Board Member Gort: O.K. it's been seconded. Yes sir? Board Member Regalado: O.K. do we have space at the Riverside Center, we do not? Mr. Bailey: We checked it, they don't have sufficient space at the moment. In fact, there are several agencies that are able to move in there, so we did check it? Board Member Plummer: That's true. Board Member Regalado: So we bought the whole building, and we don't have spacf, for you?. It's sad. Mr. Bailey: Well we had... this board had charged us, when we were first set up, that we should., be somewhere within the area to be closer to the people. And we do have a new building in the area, but you know how pulling permits and trying to get renovations, it just didn't come out on time as... therefore, this is just a period of time for us to stay there until the building is ready. Board Member Plummer: Yeah, but there's a big difference also. We're not buying the building now, we're gone rent. Mr. Bailey: Well we're renting space and... Board Member Plummer: And we're gonna rent space when we get the new building, we're not gonna buy for two million dollars ($2,000,000). Mr. Bailey: No, we're just gonna rent the space and we're not gonna. The two million v'r c�,.Wt have anyway so it is a mutt question. Board Member Regalado: But we do need to make a new lease for eighteen thousanu jollars ($18,000), is that correct? Mr. Bailey: Yes, and that's what we're asking for today, and we recommend that. Board Member Plummer: That's what I moved. INAUDIBLE COMMENTS. Mr. Bailey: We're staying in the Dupont Plaza on the 4th floor, we just moved to the north side of the 4th floor. We've got enough space just for our staff, and it's adequate even though we're... Unidentified Speaker: Where are you moving to? Mr. Bailey: We're at the Dupont Plaza, we're already there... it's the same building. Board Member Regalado: No but she's saying after, after, after. Mr. Bailey: After that, well, by August we probably would have made some decision. We would prefer to move to the Citadel which is in the Park West area which is at N.W. 1st and 5th Street, that's the new building... the old Salvation Army building which we are... were part of the 9 November 18, 1996 1 development, and we hold a very large second mortgage on it, and it's in Overtown area. That was the original charge that we were given to move into the area, and we think its appropriate to do that. Board Member Plummer: I would hope that prior to that you would go out with a bidding procedure.. Absolutely, this vote would not accept anything less without a bidding procedure, Mr. Bailey: Within the project area? Board Member Plummer: Of course. Mr. Bailey: I've heard that the County has space, they ought to give us free space in the Courthouse center. Board Member Plummer: I don't disagree with that either. Mr. Bailey: They took three hundred and ten thousand dollars ($13,000) from us. Board Member Gort: Yes sir, Mr. Joseph. Fred Joseph: Commissioner Regalado, Fred Joseph here at the Grand Condominium. What our intention is, if this CRA eventually, be in the district that it oversees. I know you are asking about that down on the river, and another city property. We're trying to get them out of those, and into our area to see why and what we need by living here with us, so that was one of the reasons... I know your point, the other is Commissioner Plummer brought up a good, vwe might have a lot of free space around here for that purpose... Board Member Plummer: Wait two years, we'll give you the Arena. Mr. Joseph: Thank you. Matter of fact we might be. But we need... if you give it Lo anyb: dy, give it a tax roll please, stop giving it away tax free. But if you do something with it we wili he looking in this area... Board Member Regalado: As a matter of fact... Mr. Joseph: We do want them coming this way. Board Member Regalado: As a matter of fact, Fred, don't you think that in the Omni building... Mr. Joseph: Absolutely. Board Member Regalado: ... it could be some space... Mr. Joseph: That's one of the things I was thinking about. Just like we did with the City police department. Board Member Regalado: ... this is an economic issue, also it's an issue that you mentioned that you need. You want the office in the area... Mr. Joseph: If you keep giving away tax base places, I may let you have some of this building. Board Member Regalado: But I'm sure that the people from the Omni will be very glad to have this office located in this area, don't you think, Herb? 10 November 18, 1996 Mr. Bailey: We wouldn't have a problem with that, we just need 2,500 square feet, it's not a lot of space, but that'll accommodate us I think. Mr. Joseph: Alright, thank you. Board Member Plummer: With that one employee you don't need that much space. Board Member Gort: Yes sir, Mr. Cruz? Mr. Bailey: I'm willing to work out of my house. Mariano Cruz: Mariano Cruz, 1227 26 Street, I wonder all of this problem with rent and the buildings of the City when, like yesterday the Herald said we own so much property and here we go always renting property when we got vacant property in downtown. And that happened before when the move of the Community Development building there. And you can see that so we leave vacant buildings that the City... belongs to the City, and we go to other place paying hundreds of thousands of dollar rent. That's one of the issues too that brought us to this point we are today financially in the City, because make an inventory of all the vacant property the City owns all over the place. I know that the office has to be in location where are you going to servi: the public, the parking and all that, but I think like the Olympia building belong to the City, right? Board Member Plummer: No, excuse me, no... Mr. Cruz: It's being subsidized or something... Board Member Plummer: No, excuse me, just for your information, Gusman Hall was giving to the City with a absolute, guarantee that Off -Street Parking would manage the building. The office space is being turned into condiminum... apartments, rental spaces, and Gusman :..all would not be suitable for this. Mr. Cruz: At the time, I remember that like the Office of Profesional Compliance were there... Board Member Plummer: Used to be. Mr. Cruz: O.K. but what I want to know is I don't want to see vacant... Bobby Maduro Stadium is vacant and got office space on the top there. All over the place you got office ... no the city owns buildings all over the place. The city don't even know how many properties they own. Thank you. Board Member Gort: Thank you Mariano. Anyone else? O.K. Close the public hearingsy any other comments? Board Member Regalado: I don't know, Vice Mayor, I... Board Member Plummer: I made a motion. Board Member Regalado: Yeah, I just think that we are going to approve of this lease for the next eight months, this is what we are going to do right now, right? Board Member Plummer: Yes sir, it's the same as what we did for the other agency, the Jobs Program. We kept them there because they didn't have a place to move. Board Member Regalado: Right, O.K. I£ we don't have place, let's do it. 11 November 18; 1996 Board Member Plummer: I moved it. Board Member Gort: O.K. it's been moved, is there a second discussion? Be known all in i .!,-or say as by saying "aye." The Board (Collectively): Aye. The following motion was introduced by Board Member Plummer, who moved its adoption: OMNI/CRA MOTION NO.96-9 A MOTION ACCEPTING THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTORS OF THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AGENCY'S EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR APPROVAL OF EXTENSION OF A LEASE AGREEMENT WITH DUPONT PLAZA IN CONNECTION WITH RENTAL OF OFFICE SPACE IN THE AMOUNT OF $18,000, SAID EXTENSION SHALL BE UNTIL AUGUST OF 1997. Upon being seconded by Board Member Regalado, the motion was passed and adopted by the following vote: AYES: Board Member Tomas Regalado Board Member J. L. Plummer Jr. Board Member Wifredo Gort NAYS: None. ABSENT: Board Member Humberto Hernandez Board Member Joe Carollo -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4. DISCUSS / DEFER RENEWING PROFESSIONAL SERVICE AGREEMENT WITH NATIONAL DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL, INC. Board Member Gort: Renewal of professional service with National Development Council Inc. Mr. Bailey: On Item 6, we last year had three consultants, and because of the cutbacks we eliminated two. National Development Council, as you will see in the memo attached, and these are real contribution accomplishments... they represent to us a very critical, professional, technical knowledgeable intrusion or infusion, I might say, into some of the things we ha to accomplish through HUD, HUD in Coral Gables, HUD Washington. Especially the.amount of knowledge to have in regards to the 108 Programs which, not just for the CRA, but we k;nd that to the CDBG and they work totally for the city. We are recommending that we keep them because they represent to us, especially, a lot of assistance we get from them on our home ownership grant at HUD Washington, which without them I don't think the grant that we have put in would have been as credible as it is, so we are recommending that we keep them for the next year. Board Member Plummer: Was this put out to a bid? Mr. Bailey: They have been our consultants for two or three years. 12 November 18, 19y6 .0 Board Member Plummer: I didn't ask that question, has it been put out to a bid? Mr. Bailey: There is no bid. Board Member Plummer: There is no bid? Mr. Bailey: No. Board Member Plummer: Why? Mr. Bailey: There never was. It's a professional service contract. Board Member Plummer: It still could go out to a bid, that doesn't prohibit it to go into a bid. Mr. Bailey: Commissioner, not to be indifferent, but I doubt if there are more than... i (*>n't know any other... Board Member Plummer: Well, obviously we had three before. We're down to one now; there's two others out there that's not on the list. Mr. Bailey: Not with this capability. Board Member Plummer: Well I don't even see what their work job is to be. Mr. Bailey: It is in the memo, and it's in your packet. Board Member Plummer: O.K. my other question is, what happens if this budget is by the City commission? I don't wanna make an obligation tonight for fifty thousand dollars ($` 0,000) if in fact this budget is cut. Mr. Bailey: Well, you may do that, Commissioner, but we think we've played by the ru -.s mo, than any other department. We've cut our budget 23 percent. Everybody else was asked 10 cut it 5, or 10, or 15 percent. There are certain things that we need to get our job done. Board Member Plummer: I hear you. Board Member Gort: Herb, within the 23% reductions do you contemplated the fifty thousand for this? Mr. Bailey: Yes that's included. And we cut out our... we had a hundred and fifty thousand, we cut out a hundred thousand dollars, so we've complied more than, I think, any other department has in terms of reducing the budget. Board Member Plummer: Not my concern, my concern is if further cuts come, that's my concern. Mr. Bailey: Well if they come then, Commissioner, we'll go back to the drawing board with every other department, and cut our budget according to how they cut theirs. Board Member Plummer: That's not my point. My point is that if you don't have the money and you make a contract tonight with these people for fifty thousand, you're obligated for fifty thousand. And that's wrong. 13 November 18, 1996 Mr. Bailey: Well, we do have the money, I would think that... Board Member Plummer: You don't have any money without a budget, and you don't have a budget. Mr. Bailey: Well we have a budget in the budget book that you passed. Board Member Plummer: I understand that but... Mr. Bailey: ... and in that budget book it does include fifty thousand dollars ($50,000) for this consulting firm. Board Member Regalado: But you're not getting money from that. Board Member Plummer: You also, you also are... Board Member Gort: Excuse me, one at a time, J.L. Board Member Plummer: You also are aware that at the time we passed the budget, which is ongoing today, it was full and full recognition that that budget would be altered extremely for a final budget to bring it into compliance or we would have never got passed the governor's office. Mr. Bailey: Well commissioner... Board Member Plummer: Hey, I'm not gonna argue anymore I'll just vote against it. Mr. Bailey: I'm not arguing, and however you vote will be just fine. But I wanna bring to the table that when we submitted our vote to the city manager, when Merrett Stierheim was there we also submitted a solution to how we can fund our budget without City dollars. We don'+ get money from the general fund, we have one and a half million dollars ($1.5 million) take, - rom us that we want back, we wouldn't have to worry about this. We took one and a half ml aion plus another three hundred thousand this year from Overtown to put in the general fund, we just ask for it back. Board Member Plummer: I hear you sir. Mr. Bailey: Alright. Board Member Regalado: Vice Mayor... Mr. Bailey: Now that went to Gusman to fund the deficit in Gusman and at the building where they're doing the apartments now, and so we're not asking for general fund money. We never get any. All the money we get comes from community development... so the cuts or an adjustment are to general fund not to us. Board Member Gort: Mr. Regalado. Board Member Regalado: Yes. Well, the City Commission, Herb, will have to make decisions, and probably very hard decisions larger than we expected because of many things that we have to deal with. So I think that J.L. is right, we cannot commit to a contract for fifty thousand dollars ($50,000), which you will have to pay anyway even if you don't have the money as of now. Can we wait for this person or this group to see what kind of budget we have, if we have any? 14 November 18, 1996 Mr. Bailey: Absolutely we can wait. An answer to that is absolutely yes, but, however, when we get to our budget I do hope that the City Commission will permit us to present our case as it relates to our budget and to our monies. And to the funds that actually belong to the CRA that has no impact at all on the city's general fund, but has been put into the general fund. We.l%;Yc assets that, and the next item we're going to ask you to let us realize, we ha-ft on recoru, 'hy -be.., ": value, over eighteen to twenty million dollars ($18 million to $20 million) in properties... Board Member Regalado: Right, but, but, excuse me... Mr. Bailey: We can fund our budget. Board Member Regalado: Excuse me, Herb, excuse me. We are being told by our departing. City Manager and entering City Manager that we have very capable persons in. The City of Miami and we believe we do. We're told by the new City Manager that we have very capable persons in all the departments and we believe we do. Now, if we have to go out and look for somebody and pay that person or group or office fifty thousand dollars ($50,000) who could pay an, employee of the City of Miami, I don't see why we don't have the personnel, the knowledge in any department of the City to do the job that this people are doing. Mr. Bailey: You don't have it Commissioner. I'll tell you right now you have nobody irK the City government that can perform what this company does. Board Member Regalado: Yes, we do have it. Yes, we do have it. We have people in Housing that knows about HUD. Mr. Bailey: No, no. Board Member Regalado: We, I mean... Mr. Bailey: I used to be the director of Housing, I know every person there. I know every talent that we have in this area. Board Member Regalado: I know you were. Board Member Gort: Excuse me. Board Member Regalado: O.K. Board Member Plummer: Can I ask a question? Board Member Gort: Yes. Board Member Plummer: Mr. Bailey? Mr. Bailey: Yes. Board Member Plummer: The money that the Arena used to pay to the City, the three hundred thousand dollars ($300,000) to repay for the real estate, who is now the recipient of that money? Mr. Bailey: That goes to satisfy the debt on the bonds. The eleven and a half million dollar ($11.5 million) bonds that we issued as a part of the tax increment bonds, and what we do is a swap. It goes to the City's general fund, and the City gives a dedicated source of revenue to satisfy the bond indebtedness. We never got it. Other than for the indebtedness. 15 Novembei Y8, 1996 Board Member Plummer: So the three hundred thousand dollars ($300,000) to pay for the real estate does not go to the City direct? Mr. Bailey: It goes directly to the City of Miami. Directly to the general fund and they have made us swap from another dedicated source of revenue to pay for the bonds because that three hundred thousand dollars did not qualify as a dedicated source of the bond indebtedness. Board Member Plummer: I move that we defer the NDC, and let me say for the record, I would have preferred to see this go out to a bid This is obviously a very fine company. They've done*' lot of good things. But my deferring at this time is for the purpose of making sure that there are adequate funds to cover any contract which we sign at this particular date. I so move.. Board Member Gort: It's a motion to defer. Is there a second? Board Member Regalado: Second. Board Member Gort: Second. Discussion the motion? Board Member Regalado: Well, I just wanna say, Vice Mayor, that we need to see, like J.L. says, if we have funds for any commitment that we make but I still say that we should look within our City to see if somebody, some department, can do this kind of job. And they will be saving fifty thousand dollars ($50,000) to the City. And I just wanted that to be on the record that I wish that somebody will search in all the office that we have in the City of Miami, to cee if we have the person with the knowledge to do this kind of job. Board Member Gort: O.K. Thank you sir. Yes sir? Manuel Gonzalez-Goenaga: Well, viewing, from this memorandum, how they have perform I can rest assured that we do have a very knowledgeable person that can do this. Especially Mz Bailey, that he mentioned that he was in housing before, that he is very qualify. Ma`,:.. v :u can spend a little bit in administrative expenses, or traveling expenses and in conjunction w . al our lobbyist law firm in Washington. And just for the information of this Commission, the City of Miami, I learned from my sister-in-law, who became Mayor of the City of San Juan, that there are one thousand one hundred and twenty four (1,124) different federal programs that apply to the City of San Juan. I wonder how many programs do we have here generally, that applies to the City of Miami. Because San Juan is nothing... Miami should be much better than the City of San Juan, and we have one thousand one hundred and twenty four (1,124) , and upon my return from Puerto Rico I will bring a list of federal programs that are used in the City of San Juan. And we form part, we are the end of the... because we are not part of the United States, I mean we are part of the United States but it's like a little city... banana island. With less crime than Miami, except for drugs. Thank you very much. Board Member Regalado: But because of that, Manny, it's because all the federal programs apply to Puerto Rico. All of them. And most of these programs do not apply to the -City of Miami. And the City of San Juan, Puerto Rico. Mr. Gonzalez-Goenaga: I am not talking about the island of Puerto Rico, exclusive to the City. Board Member Regalado: No, I'm talking in San Juan. Mr. Gonzalez-Goenaga: Anyway, I will bring for the benefit. Free of charge, free of charge. Board Member Gort: Excuse me, yes, you bring it back to us. Thank you sir, we appreciate it. 16 November. 18, 1996 tc9+r; Mr. Gonzalez-Goenaga: No, no charge. The list of the programs that we getting in San Juan. Board Member Plummer: I thought this was an Omni meeting. Board Member Gort: Yes. Board Member Regalado: Consultant. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5. DISCUSS LIST OF RECOMMENDED APPRAISERS TO APPRAISE CITY LAND FOR DISPOSAL AT FAIR MARKET VALUE -- GIVE PRIORITY TO CITY OF MIAMI FIRMS. Board Member Gort: Appraisals. Mr. Bailey: You asked us at the last meeting to bring back a list of recommended appraisers the we could use, because we are contemplating disposing of land as opposed to leasing it, aft& disposing of it at fair market value. And we indicated that does two things for us. It puts -11 of - the property on the tax rolls, and it gives us much needed resources to do other things. Board Member Plummer: Herb, what are you asking us, to recommend to pick one or two? `ts that what you're asking? Mr. Bailey: Well you asked us for a list, and we have indicated on each one of them, those that have experience and have been used in the past. And these are the ones that we got from tr�f. I think, was it GSA? Asset management. We used the same ones that the City normally uses.' V. get the list from them, however, some of them have already been working in Overtown. fo, past seven or eight years, they understand the property. Board Member Plummer: Let me just, for the record, if I may, I only find one firm out of the five that pays taxes in the City of Miami, and that's the number two firm. And I would hope that they would be given preference since they pay the taxes in this city and the others choose not to, that we would give them preference on all work in the City of Miami. Mr. Bailey: We've given them the most work. Quite a bit of work since we've been the CRA. Board Member Plummer: I stopped short of saying give it all to them or let the others move into the City and start paying.... Mr. Bailey: We have number one and two, the ones that have been .most active over the past seven or eight years, and they're the cheaper ones. Board Member Plummer: Yeah, but you see Mr. Bailey, the problem is number one enjoyed the City of South Miami. That's where their offices are and that's where they pay their taxes. Now, if they wanna move into the City of Miami start paying taxes, I'd love to, you know, bestow upon them also. Mr. Bailey: We have no problem using Moses Florence, we know him. Board Member Plummer: O.K. 17 November 18, 1996 Board Member Gott: O.K. You don't need any motion from us on this do you? Mr. Bailey: No, we just, we want to go ahead forward and start having properties appraised. Board Member Gott: O.K. Mr. Bailey: And if it's your recommendation that we consider priority for those who live in the City then we will do that. Board Member Gott: Priority to City of Miami... that's correct, right. Board Member Plummer: Excuse me, Mr. Bailey? Mr. Bailey: Yes. Board Member Plummer: Excuse me, for the record, you are saying how manv pro ties? Because on my agenda, it only shows one property at 800 N. Miami Avenue. Are there tither properties? Mr. Bailey: 8 North Miami Avenue. Which one is that? Which one is that Erdal? Board Member Plummer: Well it says suggest to the appraisers for the appraisals of CRA owned land located at 800 N. Miami Avenue. It would be my understanding that these appraisers are only for this one parcel. Mr. Bailey: That's for the Arena Towers. Erdal Donnez: That's for the Arena Towers, you know, property and underlying land, that we're talking about. Board Member Plummer: But that's what we're hiring appraisers for right now. Mr. Donnez: That's correct. Board Member Plummer: Yeah. And do we have a price on that? Mr. Donnez: No we haven't really asked for it because we were asked to bring back a list... Board Member Plummer: Then I would assume before you sign a contract, you will come back to this board with a price. Mr. Donnez: We'll do that. Board Member Gott: O.K. Thank you. Any further questions? -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6. DISCUSS SCHEDULING NEXT CRA MEETING IN DECEMBER, 1996. Board Member Plummer: On upcoming board meeting. Mr. Gott, at the sake of maybe being... having stones thrown at me, may I sugest that if you're successful in doing anything withth'e County on Interlocal Agreement that we proceed with the meeting of December the 16th. I done: 18 November 18, 1996 know what we could accomplish if you're not successful. And what I'm thinking is, the holidays that we possibly could omit the December meeting. If there is a need for the meeting, then I would say absolutely proceed. Now, the only real reason, Mr. Bailey, unless .there',s, something else that you have scheduled for the December meeting, I would say to you the only rea issue is the Interlocal Agreement. Mr. Bailey: That's correct. Board Member Plummer: And if you're successful, Mr. Gort, in your negotiatii�ns with the County then I think we should have, if necessary, a meeting in December, but if you're not successful, I don't know what we could accomplish by meeting. Because if they're gonna stale mate us, and I think that's what they're trying to do, I think they're trying to bleed us for everything they can get out of us and that's why they're stone walling, and at this particular point I think that the vote of this board was unanimous, and our feelings. And I think that it's, gonna remain that way, or at least I feel it's gonna remain that way, because we need the money for the CRA. So I would suggest that if we haven't... leave the meeting scheduled. If nothing happens then cancel the meeting for the 16th. Board Member Regalado: Well I will suggest, Vice Mayor, that if you have any results, then we can have the meeting here instead of the Arena. Board Member Gort: Sure, right. Board Member Plummer: That's fine. That's fine. Board Member Regalado: Because this is what the important issue is. And I will commit with you to speak to, at least I can speak to three or four county commissioners and help voile out if you want the meeting right a way. I can do that tomorrow. Board Member Gort: Start making phone calls tomorrow morning. Board Member Plummer: Tomas, let me say to you, since I can't talk to you in private, I can talk to you in public. Board Member Regalado: Absolutely. Board Member Plummer: This is been going on for, how long Fred? Fred Joseph: About ten years... Board Member Plummer: Well no I mean where we've really been involved in a CRA as we haven't. Mr. Joseph: Four consecutive years. Board Member Plummer: Four consecutive years. Tomas, they've done everything in the world to stalemate this and stonewall it. They have come back with all kinds of things - that one time, just to give you an example, they wanted a great deal of our money for the CRA to go to the homeless. Mr. Joseph: Homeless shelter. Board Member Plummer: O.K. And that was stopped and stale mated here. I can remember that they wanted part of our money and a great deal of our money which we reduced down for 19 November 18, 1996 the purposes of the Performing Arts. We took a very strong there. The problem is that we cannot make them understand that the anticipated revenue that we will be receiving in the coming year is no where near what they are asking us to commit to, even though the.. million dollars is not a guarantee. If we don't get a million dollars, they will get every, penny wiii-Ne of the six .hundred and eighty thousand. 1 The Grand... is it the Grand that: is..chalc_ : 7g ,a. to condiminium? Mr. Joseph: No that's Venetia. Board Member Plummer: Venetia. Venetia is changing over to condiminiums. There'll Qp twenty-five thousand homestead exemption for each one of those units which today don't enjoy that. And that is going to take a tremendous dive in the amount of revenue produced for the CRA. Sir, all I'm saying to you is that I think you ought to sit with Mr. Bailey for at least an hour prior to going to that meeting, so you can fortified to know exactly everything that is transpired in the past. And it's not a "bed of roses" that you're gonna be walking into at the beginning, "it's gone be a bed of thorns." So it's just... you know we've done... we can't go any further, I don't know what else we can do. And for that I'll shut up. Board Member Gort: O.K. so do I have a motion for the meeting of Monday, December the 16th, 1996 and Tuesday, January 21st, 1997. Board Member Plummer: I'll move it at this particular time, but with a change. Board Member Gort: This be moved. Board Member Regalado: Second. Board Member Gort: Seconded. All in favor say so by saying "aye." Board Member Regalado: With a change. Board Member Gort: With the amendment. With the change to have take place. Board Member Plummer: Yeah with the amendment. Board Member Gort: All in favor state here by saying "aye." The Board (Collectively): Aye. Board Member Gort: Unanimous. 20 November IS, 1996 The following motion was introduced by Board Member Plummer, who moved its adoption: OMNI/CRA MOTION NO.96-10 A MOTION SCHEDULING THE UPCOMING CRA BOARD .MEETINGS .'FOR: DECEMBER AND JANUARY, SETTING THE DATES OF DECEMBF;t 16, 1996 (TO BE HELD AT THE MIAMI ARENA, 701 ARENA BOULEVARD) AND JANUARY 21, 1997 (TO BE HELD AT THE GRAND CONDOMINIUM/DOUBLE HOTEL), RESPECTIVELY. Upon being seconded by Board Member Regalado, the motion was passed and adopted by the following vote: AYES: Board Member Tomas Regalado Board Member J. L. Plummer Jr. Board Member Wifredo Gort NAYS: None. ABSENT: Board Member Humberto Hernandez Board Member Joe Carollo Board Member Plummer: Now may I speak to something very important. Mr. Joseph I iitvd my parking pass taken care of please. Mr. Joseph: O.K. Wait a minute, we're not letting you go yet. Wait, wait, wait. Board Member Gort: O.K., new business. Other. Yes sir? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7. (A) DISCUSS WITH COMMUNITY REPRESENTATIVE ELEANOR KLUGER COMPOSITION OF ADVISORY BOARD SELECTION PROCEDURES - BRING BACK SAME AT A LATER DATE FOR CONFIRMATION OF SAME. (B) ELECTED COMMISSIONER HUMBERTO HERNANDEZ. Eleanor Kluger: We have before us a different CRA than we used to have. We hope that in the future it will change to where it is more responsive to the citizenship and to the community. We would like to work together with you. We would like to be involved. We would like not to be just sitting here and have you telling us what we're going to do, and how it's going to be done. We have very responsible citizens here in this community. We have lawyers, we have bankers, we have developers, etc. - very educated people that are willing to volunteer, free of charge, to help revitilize this area. Mr. Bailey, I was wondering how long have we had a CRA? Mr. Bailey: Ten years. Ms. Kluger: What have we done to revitalize the area? a Mr. Bailey: Nothing. 21 November 18, 1996 j i Ms. Kluger: Right. How long can this community continue to come to these meetings and listen to all of this, and have no results? We all take our time from work to come here. We notify the people, we treat you quite nicely. We want to be your partners in revitalizing this neighborhood. Tonight I would like to submit names that we have put together, since.you had asked thin we have ten members from the community to help., And we would like to.be•educated ;!, hcp,s �o help, and I am giving you more than ten names only because.ten names are difficult fc•.;.s to g%.L ten people here all the time being that we all have our individual businesses. And so, Urn making it more than ten names in the effort that we would get enough people to participate a�those ten And do show up would have the voting power. nd if that's O.K. with the board, I wou;tsubmit these names to you. Board Member Plummer: Mr. Vice Mayor this is something that we had promised to the poeple that we would formulate an advisory board, and I think it's way past due. I think that what we had talked about before was this advisory board would be meeting on a monthly basis, and this board, as such, would be meeting on a quarterly basis. And I think that that is something that is worth serious consideration, and I'll tell you what, I don't know the names on that, but if you'll give me one of those lists, as far as I'm concerned, I'm ready to name it tonight. Board Member Gort: My understanding is the intent to name an advisory board. Is that what you're saying Commissioner Plummer? Mr. Plummer? Board Member Plummer: Well that's what this board had agreed and promised the peophx� of this community that we would. Board Member Gort: Alright. Board Member Plummer: I'll name two people right now if you're ready. Board Member Gort: Well wait a minute, you can first of all, how large do you want the advisory board to be? Board Member Plummer: I think we agreed on ten people. Ms. Kluger: Ten people and what I'm trying to revise it to say is that the ten people that show up for the meeting, and we would give you the list of only the people that we are going to invite to be on it. So we have substitutes, or alternates, that's all we were saying. Board Member Regalado: Eleanor, you're suggesting fourteen here, right? Ms. Kluger: There are fourteen. Board Member Regalado: Ten plus four alternates. Ms. Kluger: Right Board Member Regalado: O.K. Mr. Joseph: I'll like to inter... wait one second. Commissioner Plummer has a rule that the Bayfront Park Trust. I'd like that type of rule, would you explain how it... you set up a quorum with it. Board Member Plummer: Fred you can establish your own rules. Mr. Joseph: Well I understand, but I wanted Eleanor to hear it because it works well 22 November 18, 1996 Board Member Plummer: It works extremely well, and that is at the starting time, let's say it's at 7:00, the members present constitute the quorum. If there's ten people and there's only four people at the 7:00, those four constitute the quorum. Ms. Kluger: That would be fine, and what I... however... Board Member Plummer: The advisory board, in my estimation, would in fact set their own rules. Board Member Gort: O.K. now my understanding is you're gonna have a meeting where you're gonna ask these individuals to come, and out of that you will do your own selections to recommend to us the ten individuals you want to be board members, and the four alternates. O.K. so what is your motion? - your motion is to... we don't need a motion now. Board Member Plummer: I was ready to name my two. Board Member Gort: No, no they're gonna have... they gonna go through the process and you'M. gonna come back to us and then we'll make the motion at that time. Right? Ms. Kluger: That would be fine. Board Member Gort: O.K. Thank you. Board Member Plummer: That's fine, if that's what you wanna do but I'm ready to name., The only thing I would question... Board Member Gort: J.L. Board Member Plummer: ... Mr. Vice Mayor? Board Member Gort: Yes. Board Member Plummer: ... whether or not it should be eleven rather than ten. One should be a. chairman. Board Member Gort: Let them decide and they'll come back to us. Ms. Kluger: We would prefer eleven, but you suggested ten so we were following your rules. Mr. Joseph: Yeah, we were following your guide. Board Member Gort: You don't want it to be even, you want it to be odd, so eleven will be it. Board Member Plummer: Yeah, to have a chairman. Board Member Gort: Yes sir? Ed Cooke: Hello there, everybody hi. Hello there, my name is Ed Cooke, I represent the area immediately contiguous to this area. We are part of an association called Biscayne Edgewater South Taxpayers Association. Think of 18th Street to 25th, a most neglected area, and I just ask if any kind of Commission that it would permit us to at least be silent observers and invitees to that because this group on the other side of the park... very, very active and very interested in the area. 23 November 18, ] 996 Board Member Gort: You're welcome, these meetings are open to everyone, you're welcome to come in, and give suggestions and ideas, also. Mr. Cooke: I'm talking about the monthly meeting, and the quarterly. Thank you. Board Member Plummer: Absolutely, they're all open to the public. Board Member Gort: Yes, yeah. Ms. Kluger: Excuse me, but I've been advised that we would really like for you to apt, , ve the listing that we have now and we'll work out the details as far as which eleven will be`on a. Ygom that list. Board Member Plummer: I'm not gonna vote for that, I'm gonna name my two of the people who I think are both most qualified. The Vice Mayor has asked... he wants to wait, and I will acquiesce to his request. Board Member Gort: Your gonna give approval. Why don't you go ahead, decide and come back and we'll move on it. Ms. Kluger: We just wanted to move forward as quickly as we could but if that', ,your decision... Board Member Gort: Your given instructions to go ahead move forward, meet and come yak to us with the commitee already approved and we'll move on it. O.K. Board Member Plummer: I'm assume... Board Member Regalado: Meantime, I don't know, you can, Fred, you can help Vice lwayor Gort in having your people put some kind of pressure on the County leaders so he can have h`t. meeting right a way. Ms. Kluger: We would like a representative also to that meeting. Board Member Regalado: You have people here with a lot of political clout, you can do that. Ms. Kluger: O.K. Mr. Joseph: Thank you. Ms. Kluger: We will try to do that. In fact we will do it. Manuel Gonzalez-Goenaga: This is just a suggestion. For the sake of transparency of full disclosure and information, which is the basic of a responsible government, why don't we imitate the good things of Dade County. They publish every week a list of all kinds of meetings, advisory boards, where they are held, the time. That would be something that would be very practical, besides the NET Channel 9. So, because I, sometimes I rather watch 007 or Hawaii 05 than Channel 9. So that would be very handy because then you can put it... let's be practical, and, I think that's a good suggestion, and I don't think it would cost too much. Just imitate the good things that Dade County do. Thank you. Board Member Gort: O.K. Thank you sir. O.K. 24 November 18, 1996 Board Member Plummer: Mr. Vice Mayor, the only thing I would suggest is Eleanor, that when you get these names, make sure that everyone that's on here has agreed to serve. Ms. Kluger: Yes. The... all of those names on there are property owners. I have also thought to distribute it fairly, this is the reason I wanted you to vote on it, because we have representatives from the Grand, we have representatives from the Plaza Venetia, we have representatives from along Biscayne Boulevard, all being property owners in the area. Also another reason is that they've been active in the area, and they have helped our community go forward, and to group together. And spent a lot of time doing this, and I think that list is very good. Board Member Gort: Does anybody wants to make a motion to accept all fourteen names to be part of the commitee? Board Member Plummer: Excuse me, Mr. Gort, I am gonna name my two. Board Member Gort: O.K., fine that... Board Member Regalado: I can do that. Ms. Kluger: Will they be from that list? Board Member Plummer: That's fine with me. Mr. Bailey: May I just make a comment. I think at the meeting in which we suggested that ,they come up with a commitee, I don't believe it was a suggestion to bring a commitee back for our approval, but bring a commitee back for which we would be informed as to who we were dealing with, if I remember what happened. And I believe that's why we have this list. Ms. Kluger: And now this is a change Mr. Plummer, and we really have surveyed that and tried to be fair with everybody, and to put people on there that are knowledgeable in redevelupinent, and not people that are just wanting to be there. Board Member Gort: Eleanor, I think what we're saying here today, and what I hear from the majority of the Commissioners, they not ready to make a decision today. My suggestion, Eleanor, my suggestion is you have your meeting with all fourteen individuals, among yourseir, you select your procedure, you select the ten individuals you want to be the advisory board members, and you select the four that you want to be alternatives, and you bring it to us, and I think we'll vote on that. Ms. Kluger: But you're saying it one way, and Commissioner Plummer is saying it another, so it gets a confusion. Board Member Gort: Well Commissioner Plummer is one vote, and there's many other votes 1ri here. Board Member Plummer: Yeah, I think what you're looking at is you've got to offer through some means to others that might be interested. Ms. Kluger: We have been amongst ourselves offering... Board Member Plummer: O.K. but I'm saying whether it's on Channel 9 or what, there are maybe other people who might be interested. I have my choice already off of this list and it's no problem, but so no one can come back at a later time and say, I wanted to be considered but it was a closed shop, I think you want to avoid that. 25 November 2.8, 1996 Board Member Gort: Any further discussion, if there's any further business I have a motion first of all for those of you I'd like to introduce Commissioner Humberto Hernandez who got in _a while ago. You want to say anything Commissioner? Board Member Hernandez: Good evening everyone. I'm sorry I came in late; I was stuck over there at the Zoning Board meeting at the City of Miami. Had several people that had some issues that wanted me to entertain. For all of you that don't know me I am the newly elected Commissioner. Whatever you need from me in my office, we're open at 8:30 in the morning and we'll be closing late at night from the way I see things are going around at least today. Anything I can do for you, I'm available the number's 2.50-5380, 250-5380 and anything I can help you with I'll be there around the clock, thank you very much. Board Member Gort: Thank you. Do I have a motion to adjourn? Board Member Plummer: Always in order. Board Member Gort: Moved. Second. Thank you. Thank you all for being here. THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS TO COME BEFORE THE SOUTHEAST OVERTOWN PARK WEST/COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY, THE MEETING WAS ADJOURNED AT 8:05 p.m. ATTEST: Walter J. Foeman CITY CLERK Maria Josefina Argudin ASSISTANT CITY CLERK Richard P. Dunn, II CHAIRMAN (SEAL) 26 November 1e, ':436