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MINUTES OF OMNI/CRA MEETING
June 24, 1996
ITEM SUBJECT LEGISLATION PAGE
NO. NO.
1.
(A) DISCUSSION LNG OMNI
DISCUSSION
2-7
INTERIQCAL COOPERATION AGREEMENT WITH
6/24/96
MVIRO-DADE C XWY. ( See label 3) .
(B) RECOG1NIZE FRED JOSEPH AS A CITY
REPRESENTATIVE ON PERFORMING ARTS
CENTER TRUST.
2.
WORKSHOP TO BE ORGANIZED BY CRA BOARD
DISCUSSION
7-18
AMID EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR TO ALUM PUBLIC
6/24/96
INPUT CONCERNING FUTURE DEVELOPMENT AMID
IMPROVEMENTS TO PARK AND OTHER
INFRASTRUCTURE ISSUES WITHIN OMNI
AREA -- PRESENTATION BY CARR SMITH
ASSOCIATES CONCERNING cmui
REVITALIZATION STUDY.
3.
ACCEPT OMNI INTERI,OCAL COOPERATION
M 96-7
18-23
AGREIIEIT WITH -DARE COUNTY, WITH
6/24/96
CONDITIONS [(1) CRA'S OBLIGATION WILL
NOT EXCEED $1.43 MILLION WITHIN A GIVE
YEAR; (2) IF A SHORTFALL OCCURS, CRA
WILL ONLY PAY WHAT IT HAS COLLECTED AND
(3) ALL PERMITS AND INSPECTIONS IN CRA
DISTRICT WILL BE ISSUED BY CITY.] (See
label 1).
4.
BRIEF DISCUSSION CONCERNING TEN NUMER
DISCUSSION
23-24
BOARD TO ADVISE CRA BOARD.
6/24/96
MINUTES OF REGULAR MEETING OF THE
OMNI/COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
On the 24th day of June, 1996, the OMNI Community Redevelopment Agency met at
the Grand Doubletree Hotel and Grand Condominium on Biscayne Bay, 1717 N. Bayshore
Drive, Miami, Florida in regular session.
The meeting was called to order at 7:09 p.m. by Chairman Miller J. Dawkins with the
following members of the Board found to be present:
Chairman Miller J. Dawkins
Board Member J.L. Plummer, Jr.
ABSENT:
Board Member Wifredo Gort
Board Member Joe Carollo
ALSO PRESENT:
Walter J. Foeman, City Clerk
Maria J. Argudin, Assistant City Clerk
Herb Bailey, Executive Director
Robert Friedman, Legal Counsel
An invocation was delivered by Chairman Dawkins who then led those present in a
pledge of allegiance to the flag.
NOTE FOR THE RECORD: Board member Stephen P. Clark
passed away on June 4, 1996. Said seat was vacant for this
meeting.
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1. (A) DISCUSSION CONCERNING OMNI INTERLOCAL
COOPERATION AGREEMENT WITH METRO-DADE COUNTY.
(See label 3).
(B) RECOGNIZE FRED JOSEPH AS A CITY REPRESENTATIVE ON
PERFORMING ARTS CENTER TRUST.
Board Member J.L. Plummer: To whoever, my concern is the same as it was before. Can you
tell me how it's written in to give the comfort, in reference to an obligation of "X" number of
dollars a year, if, in fact the CRA falls short, what obligations we have, we don't have, and how
it's written into this agreement that we can't give more than what we have, and that it's not built
up over a period of years.
Mr. Herb Bailey (Executive Director): I can't find it. It's in there Commissioner.
Board Member Plummer: OK.
Mr. Bailey: It's up to an amount of 1.4 million. It's 1.4 million.
Board Member Plummer: Not to exceed.
Mr. Bailey: Not to exceed.
Board Member Plummer: On an annual basis.
Mr. Bailey: An annual basis, non -cumulative.
Board Member Plummer: All right. Now. My real concern is not that, and if we're making a
lot of money, we're not going to worry about it. My concern is that if we don't collect that
amount of money, and it falls short as we are concerned about, then what happens?
Mr. Bailey: These are non -recourse bonds. The County is going to back the bonds. This is only
a part of a larger financing, and really, the total financing for the Performing Arts includes other
monies, and this is just a part of the backup. It's not totally dependent upon the one point four.
Board Member Plummer: That's not addressing my concern. My concern is... Let me give an
example. We only come up with a million dollars ($1,000,000). OK. We don't have the million
four. Is the CRA (Community Redevelopment Agency) responsible for anything below that?
Does it carry over to another year? In other words, I can't give them more than what I have.
Mr. Bailey: Only to the extent of the amount of money we have that's available.
Board Member Plummer: All right. So if we have a million dollars ($1,000,000), we give them
a million ($1,000,000) this year, and we're short four -hundred thousand ($400,000), the next
year we start a clean slate.
Mr. Bailey: We just give them four -hundred thousand ($400,000), just what we got.
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NOTE FOR THE RECORD: Board Member Gort enters the
meeting at 7:01 p.m.
Vice Mayor Willy Gort: Where are we at?
Board Member Plummer: No, no, no. no, no, no. The million ($1,000,000).
Mr. Bailey: They get the million ($1,000,000), and then...
Board Member Plummer: OK. But the four hundred thousand is a wipe at the end of that year?
Mr. Bailey: That's over with. Yes.
Board Member Plummer: That's it?
Mr. Bailey: Yes.
Board Member Plummer: And the next year, if we come up with a million four ($1,000,400)...
Mr. Bailey: They get it.
Board Member Plummer: ... that they get it, and if we don't, they get whatever we have.
Mr. Bailey: They get only what we have.
Board Member Plummer: All right. Now, give me what you have got as a realistic... I'm just
asking questions, Willy.
Vice Mayor Willy Gort: You always do, but could you put me up today, and I...
Board Member Plummer: That's right.
Board Member Gort: I apologize for being late, but...
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Board Member Plummer: My concern is, give me a realistic view, predicated on the latest
information that you have of what - let's use next year as an example - will in fact be the revenue
coming in to the CRA.
Mr. Bailey: Roughly, about somewhere between four and five hundred thousand ($400,000 and
$500,000).
Board Member Plummer: OK. Now are we being honest, not only with ourselves, but with the
County, in indicating to them, very clearly, that projection?
Mr. Bailey: They are aware of that and we give those projections based on the County figures.
The County is the one who collects the taxes, and we are... the County and the City are pretty
much aware of what those dollars are going to be next year.
Board Member Plummer: How long are we... how many years are we obligated for the million -
four?
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Mr. Bailey: For the life of the bond.
Board Member Plummer: Which is how long?
Mr. Bailey: It will probably be thirty year bonds.
Board Member Plummer: Probably?
Mr. Bailey: Yes.
Board Member Plummer: Or it's not definite?
Mr. Bailey: Well, it's usually thirty-year bonds.
Board Member Gort: It won't be less than twenty years.
Mr. Bailey: See, the County is going to issue the bonds. Yeah. It won't be less than twenty.
Board Member Plummer: Well, I mean, you know if it's twenty years, we know it's "X" number
of dollars is our obligation. If it's thirty years, and we're at a million -four per year, I think we
ought to have a definite know, that, there's a big difference. I mean you're talking about
fourteen million dollars ($14,000,000) difference between a twenty-year bond and a thirty, if we
are guaranteeing a million -four every year.
Mr. Bailey: We're not guaranteeing a million -four every year.
Board Member Plummer: Well I asked how long are...
Mr. Bailey: No, it's up to one million -four ($1,400,000).
Board Member Plummer: I understand that.
Mr. Bailey: Only to the amount that we have collected are we assuring them up to a million -
four.
Board Member Plummer: My point... maybe I'm missing my own point. If it's a twenty-year
bond... Now let's assume that everything goes right and we're paying a million -four a year.
There's a fourteen million dollar ($14,000,000) difference between a twenty-year bond and a
thirty-year bond.
Mr. Bailey: That is correct.
Board Member Plummer: And I think we ought to know definitely which way it's going. I
mean, I prefer for the CRA to have it built in as a twenty-year bond, not to exceed, and then we
know our obligation is over at the end of twenty years. If it's not an if it's not written in and it
goes thirty years, we're going to be obligated for another fourteen million dollars ($14,000,000).
Board Member Dawkins: Board Member Gort, go ahead.
Board Member Gort: Mr. Chairman, my understanding is, in looking at the agenda... And once
again I apologize for being late, but, unfortunately, I have my people from L.A. here and this is
the third meeting I run into this gentlemen here. Are we discussing the Interlocal Agreement?
My understanding of the Interlocal agreement is, we are liable for the amount that comes in. We
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are not liable for the one point four, it's my understanding in reading. And my interpretation of
the Interlocal Agreement is, if it's five hundred, that's what we're liable for.
Board Member Plummer: That's not my point.
Chairman Dawkins: OK. But the point, J.L., is that, whenever this was drawn up, we did not
j say ten years, we did not say five years, we did not say twenty years, we did not say thirty years.
Now whatever was put in there, we didn't complain about it. So it's in there.
Mr. Bailey: It can't exceed thirty years.
Chairman Dawkins: OK. I mean, but, I'm saying though...
Mr. Bailey: It goes up to thirty years.
Chairman Dawkins: See, I hear J.L. and, I'm concerned like J.L. is also. But it's too late now to
say that I should have put in ten years limit on it. When they sent this to us and we had it around
j I don't know how long. And I agree with J.L. But, hey, this is what this is. If it's a thirty year...
if they sell the bonds for twenty years, we're stuck with twenty years. If they go out for the bond
for thirty years, we're stuck with thirty years.
Board Member Plummer: Mr. Chairman...
Board Member Gort: Let me ask you a question.
Chairman Dawkins: Yes sir Mr.... wait a minute. Let...
Board Member Plummer: It's not over until we vote on it. And if we're not happy with it, we
don't have to vote on it. So that's the point I'm making.
Chairman Dawkins: OK. That's right. OK. Good. Hey, I have no problem with that.
Board Member Gort: Excuse me.
Mr. Bailey: The bonds normally run for the life of the district. Very seldom, and if ever, a
district issues a bond less than thirty years. And when we did these numbers with all our
meetings with the County, it was assumed that it would be a thirty-year bond issue.
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Board Member Plummer: But that's not written in.
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Mr. Bailey: It doesn't say. No it's not written as thirty years. It's just written as a part of the
financing. I don't know what the County is going to do with the financing. They are waiting to
get this document, and they have their bond documents together, but we did not predicate the life
of the bond based on our agreement with this document.
Chairman Dawkins: Yes, sir.
Board Member Gort: I'm sorry, J.L., and once again I apologize for being late. What is the
main problem that you have with this?
Board Member Plummer: My problem is, is the difference between a twenty-year bond and a
thirty-year bond.
Board Member Gort: Right.
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Board Member Plummer: It's not written in, there's no guarantee. If it's... If we know it's
twenty years, up to a million -four ($1,400,000) a year...
Board Member Gort: Right.
Board Member Plummer: ... for twenty years, amen.
Board Member Gort: If it's thirty years, it'll be for thirty years.
Board Member Plummer: If it's thirty years, then we could be obligated for fourteen more
million dollars ($14,000,000), if everything was going right. That's my area.
Board Member Gort: I continue to be in the business, and I don't think it will be less than
twenty... less than thirty years, it would not be.
Mr. Bailey: How much? It depends on the life we have in the district. This district has been
here for ten years. They may be, they cannot issue a bond for longer than the life that the district
has to remain. We've lost ten years already.
Board Member Plummer: But you are saying that there is terminology here that says maximum,
thirty years?
Chairman Dawkins: You gave her the Interlocal Agreement?
Mr. Walter Foeman (City Clerk): Yeah, it's part of the.
Chairman Dawkins: The package...
Mr. Bailey: No. I didn't say that.
Board Member Plummer: So it could be forty years.
Chairman Dawkins:... the package.
Chairman Dawkins: OK. As the Chair... let's stand and pledge allegiance to the flag so we can
get officially open and we can go home.
Board Member Plummer: Which flag?
Chairman Dawkins: The one you have.
Board Member Plummer: Oh.
NOTE FOR THE RECORD: Pledge of allegiance.
NOTE FOR THE RECORD: On motion duly made by Board
Member Plummer and seconded by Board Member Gort the
minutes of the CRA meeting of May 20, 1996 were approved by
the Board.
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Chairman Dawkins: OK, so be it. All right, three. Item three.
Board Member Plummer: Mr. Chairman, before you do that, I think an
announcement would be in order, that we felt so badly about Fred Joseph to
announce that he is now a member of the Performing Arts Trust, and representing
this local area. I think for the record, it's something that we wanted to make sure of.
Chairman Dawkins: Thank you.
Mr. Fred Joseph: Thank you.
Board Member Plummer: He might not thank us later, but...
Mr. Joseph: I'm on there with you.
Chairman Dawkins: Are you bragging or complaining?
Board Member Plummer: Both.
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2. WORKSHOP TO BE ORGANIZED BY CRA BOARD AND EXECUTIVE
DIRECTOR TO ALLOW PUBLIC INPUT CONCERNING FUTURE
DEVELOPMENT AND IMPROVEMENTS TO PARK AND OTHER
INFRASTRUCTURE ISSUES WITHIN OMNI AREA -- PRESENTATION BY
CARR SMITH ASSOCIATES CONCERNING OMNI REVITALIZATION
STUDY.
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Chairman Dawkins: Item 3.
Mr. Herb Bailey (Executive Director): We have Mr. Mark Alvarez from Carr Smith who's come
up with the projections on the cost to do the improvements to the park and to other
infrastructures around the area. That's the one point two million ($1,200,000) that we have in
this agreement that's going to the Omni.
Mr. Mark Alvarez: Thank you. My name is Mark Alvarez. I'm with Carr Smith Associates.
We've been hired by the DDA (Downtown Development Authority) to perform the Omni area
revitalization study. We're fairly well along the way on that. We're at the point now where
we're looking at some preliminary costs of what it would do... of what we could do with the
infrastructure in this area. We've made a number of presentations, I think. The summary of the
redevelopment plan is Attachment 4 of your packet. We've actually presented that before. We
wanted to put together a program of improvements that would support that plan, and we're going
a little bit backwards through the packet, but Attachment 3 is a map that shows the area and it
shows two phasing... I'll wait 'till you get to it. It's a very simple one, that says phase one and
phase two area. That map is about actually looking at two sections of this area, because we feel
it's necessary to concentrate some of the infrastructure improvements. Is everybody there?
Board Member Plummer: It should be in here before the Interlocal Agreement, and it's not.
Board Member Gort: It's not in my package.
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Chairman Dawkins: No.
Board Member Plummer: It's not in my packet.
Board Member Gort: Oh here it is, yes it is.
Chairman Dawkins: Yes.
Board Member Gort: Yes it is.
Board Member Plummer: Where did you find it?
Board Member Gort: Attachment 3.
Mr. Alvarez: OK. That map was drawn up because we did a very detailed infrastructure
inventory in this area, which I'm not going to ask you to page and thumb through for it, but it's
in front of the map you're looking at. It's the long spreadsheet with a lot of numbers, and we
looked at the curb and gutter, we looked at the sidewalks, the streets, we looked at all the
improvements that would be necessary in the infrastructure. And when we were programming
the whole package, we decided it would be important to actually phase the two areas. Phase One
area would be the area where we met, where we get, I guess, most bang for our buck, because we
have the Performing Arts Center coming in here, and we were trying to get some concentration
of activity and improvements so that people actually notice something going on in the Omni
area. There simply isn't enough money to spread out the improvements throughout the entire
area, so we would have to do this one phase at a time. In the front of... and just stay with the
map. I'll go along from the front. What we're looking at is three basic ways to initially invest
the one point two million dollars ($1,200,000). One will be in Pace Park. The second one would
be in street infrastructure, and the third would be a program to actually put the street
infrastructure and the community together in putting something back into the community, which
is an infrastructure matching program where somebody who owns a property can put in half of
an infrastructure improvement in front of their property. The CRA would have a certain amount
of money that they can put in and match it, 50 percent. The Pace Park renovations are probably
the most expensive out of this first piece. The Pace Park would actually be initially a bay walk
which would include a nine foot concrete sidewalk, plantings on both sides - the whole thing's
about fifteen feet wide - trees, landscaping, lighting, and benches. And all of that together costed
out to about three quarters of a million dollars. It's very expensive. The other improvements in
Pace Park, which are not listed here, which we can look into further, are - we have discussed in
earlier meetings some of the recreational facilities, like tennis courts, and improving the soccer
field with lighting. It's not in here. Those would roughlyy, just to give you a ball park figure,
about twenty to twenty-five thousand dollars ($20,000 to $25,000) per tennis court. Lighting a
soccer field could cost about thirty thousand dollars ($30,000).
Board Member Plummer: How much?
Mr. Alvarez: About thirty. It's very expensive, because of running the conduit.
Board Member Plummer: That's not... No, excuse me, I'm sorry, that's cheap. I can tell you
when we did Peacock Park, you were talking, just to light a ball field, you were talking a
hundred sixty thousand dollars ($160,000).
Mr. Alvarez: OK, I'm... very quick ball park. That's why they're not included in here. I just...
Board Member Plummer: That's a damn big ball park, I mean.
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Mr. Alvarez: We'll continue to...
Unidentified Speaker: J.L., make them go to contract.
Mr. Alvarez: I'll look into that.
Board Member Plummer: No, well, yeah, that sounds good. You do get...
Mr. Alvarez: I look basically... I'll tell you how I came up with it. I just looked at the figures
for the light post on the bay walk and they were about six thousand ($6,000) each, and I figured
about eight to light a soccer field. I know the soccer field uses a high mass, but we'll look into
that. We'll carefully calculate that.
Board Member Plummer: Mr. Bailey, you'd better get him some of the figures more recent,
because I think we just spent... At Moore Park, what did we spend, Miller?
Chairman Dawkins: Well...
Board Member Plummer: About sixty thousand dollars ($60,000) just to resurface...
Chairman Dawkins: Yep...
Board Member Plummer: ... the tennis courts.
Chairman Dawkins: Yeah, just resurfacing. But, you know, I've said at the other CRA
meeting, I think, Board Members, that we need to have an all day workshop to find out what
we're doing. Because, now, the consultant says that he's had meetings and he did this, and he
did the other, and he's come up with that and I don't know anything about it. So I think that
sometime in August or September...
Board Member Plummer: Not August.
Chairman Dawkins: ... we need... Why not? You aren't going any place.
Board Member Plummer: You bet your bippy I am.
Chairman Dawkins: But we need an all day workshop - a half a day where we can have
drawings and questions on the Omni CRA, and a half a day where we could have questions and
answers on the Overtown CRA, so that we... I mean, let me rephrase that. So that I have a better
feel for what we're doing. Yes, sir Board Member?
Board Member Gort: Mr. Chairman, let me ask you a question. I love to copy a success story.
Look at the Kennedy Park in Coconut Grove, it's one of the most active and used parks there is.
The reason being because of the activity they have there. They have the vita course and all that.
The neighbors here didn't want anything like that in here?
Mr. Alvarez: The neighbors here, I'll speak first, and then I think some of the neighbors...
Chairman Dawkins: Go ahead. You go ahead.
Mr. Alvarez: What we heard was really a combination of tennis courts. There are other people
who said... And I've seen the soccer field. It's very active here. You know, I've heard a lot of
comments. I've heard them down to somebody telling me the reason people don't use the park is
because of red ants. There are a lot of things that people suggest that we do at the park, and
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we're trying to put together something that will work with the Performing Arts Center, so we
thought at least...
Chairman Dawkins: See, but see, that's my problem, see. I'm not interested in what will work
with the Performing Arts Theater, me, Miller Dawkins. I'm interested in what will work with
the neighbors and the citizens who pay the taxes over here. Now, see, for me, Pace Park means
that I can go out there in the afternoon and play. It doesn't mean that I can go out there and wait
for the performance to start at the Performing Arts Theater and have on a tuxedo waiting out
here in Pace Park. But that's just Miller Dawkins. Any other Board Member?
Board Member Gort: Mr. Chairman, my question is, in looking at this plan, we've got about
close to six hundred thousand dollars ($600,000) in creating a seawall.
Chairman Dawkins: Joe is up, and then you.
Mr. Alvarez: The seawall is actually...
Chairman Dawkins: Mr. Joseph...
Mr. Alvarez: You want to speak?
Board Member Gort: Wait a minute. My question is, did they want the seawall. Because
Kennedy Park, they don't have a seawall and that's one of the most used parks, and you've got
about six hundred thousand dollars ($600,000) going into the seawall. What benefit would that
bring to it and...
Mr. Alvarez: The seawall is not a necessary element of the improvement. It could be rifraffed...
somebody had even suggested some sort of a natural beach type frontage.
Board Member Gort: Right, but my understanding in looking at what you got...
Mr. Alvarez: And that's part of what the discussion is here, I think, because the park is probably
the most disagreed upon issue.
Board Member Gort: But if we were to work with U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, and we come
in with a thought of stopping erosion and what have you and get... See, what we've got to do is
maximize the dollars that we can come up with, you see. See, we can't beat up on you, because
all the... This little money that we gave you, you're maximizing it. But we've got to go, "we,"
and find other entities that contribute, that can contribute dollars to make us come up with what
we're trying to do. Yes, Mr. Joseph.
Mr. Fred Joseph: No, we don't want a seawall. Yes, we do want a bay walk. Yes, we do want
beachway. There is no tides... the tides are out there. We don't have wave destruction. They've
proved that out. We've done studies with them. Yes, we do want tennis. Yes, we do want
volley ball. Yes, we do want the vita course, which is there now, but it's in disrepair. Yes, we
do want what... they classified them as chickees, so that you can have picnics around the area.
We also want concessionaire stands, not a paid stand, but a little building that they can go in and
then leave, clean it up. We don't want coolers, we don't want any of that. We want them to take
everything with them when they go. We want soccer, cricket, volley ball, tennis, and any other
physical activity sport with a vita course. We've asked for four years to put back our lights...
(INAUDIBLE COMMENT NO ENTERED INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD)
Mr. Joseph: No. All of the items J.L., I'm sorry, I'm sorry, Commissioner Plummer, all the
items have been thought out very well on inexpensive lines other than the tennis courts and the
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lights. If you maintain the fields... We've even had major entities come back and say, after the
fact, "We'll adopt the park." I mean, we've got people from Overtown that will help adopt the
park, we'll adopt the park, we'll all work together. We've got, probably, the islands, and us,
there's major buildings that have said, "We're cleaning it now. Why wouldn't we clean it once
you give us something worthwhile for people to come to? That's all we've said from the very
beginning.
Chairman Dawkins: And all you're saying is give you some of your tax dollars back.
Mr. Joseph: Well that...
Chairman Dawkins: That's all, OK. That's all.
Mr. Joseph: Yes, absolutely. We're not asking for the County or anybody else other than the
park funds and our own money, which we tax ourselves to beautify and help improvement, not
just developers that are coming in here, great. We want them, we want them all. But let's put
our park back, so that we make it a people oriented, instead of a bedroom for homeless.
Chairman Dawkins: OK.
Mr. Joseph: So that would help us.
Chairman Dawkins: OK. Mrs. Anderson.
Mrs. Sheila Anderson: Sheila Anderson, 901 Northeast 2nd Avenue. Mr. Joseph left out the
prostitutes and the drug addicts, but the other group of people that have been left out is that many
of the people who own properties and businesses to Omni and Venetia have not been contacted,
and have had no input, so I endorse having a workshop. It would be nice to do that in Park West
in Overtown as well as Omni and have them coordinated, so that everybody on both sides of the
political boundaries have some idea of what's going on, and that there is comprehensive
planning taking place, so that everybody can enjoy some benefits.
Chairman Dawkins: OK. Thank you. No, Mr.... After her, then you, Boom -Boom.
Ms. Eleanor Kluger: My name is Eleanor Kluger, and I represent the property owners to the
west. So far, none of us have been notified of any of these wonderful plans. We also haven't
paid any money, and I don't see where the big rush is to make these plans without having a
board of ten, which we talked about, having a workshop, giving us people that live here and that
are going to pay the tax, have a little chance to digest this, find out what our options are, and
then make an intelligent decision. Certainly, the people in this neighborhood could get together
and could come up with a plan that would be good for everybody, and I'm not saying no to Pace
Park. Certainly, we have many people here in the Grand that do want that, but certainly, there
should be a little something and some consideration for the property owners to the west, and I
think that's only fair that we say, whoa, slow down a little bit, where's the big rush? Let's plan
it and let's do it correctly, let's do it economically. Maybe there are other ways that we can
obtain money to do some of these improvements that we don't have to take it out of the little bit
of money that you recently alloted us. Thank you.
Chairman Dawkins: Mr. Goenaga.
Mr. Manuel Gonzalez-Goenaga: Good evening. I come here as the future Mayor of Dade
County, and I have a much broader view. Every time I go to Miami City Commission meetings,
Metro -Dade Commission meetings, Coral Gables Commission meetings, reports, studies,
reports, studies, for the last ten years. What has been done in practice, almost nothing. I am sick
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and tired of reports, reports, reports, re -reports, under reports, over reports. Let's do something.
Think slowly, my dear Commissioners, but act quickly. And that's my one recommendation.
The other one is that if we... if you people consider the citizens as fools, remember this.
Sometimes the fools are right, most of the times. Thank you.
Chairman Dawkins: OK. Thank you, sir. Yes, sir Mr.... my neighbor.
NOTE FOR THE RECORD: Board Member Carollo enters the
meeting at 7: 5 p.m.
Mr. Mariano Cruz: Mariano Cruz, 1227 Northwest 26th Street. And the reason I keep coming
to these meetings is because so far, nobody has told me the status report on Camillus House. It's
going to be moved? Because according to one of your reports, I saw, 1996 was a planned
relocation of Camillus House. One of those CRA's, the one I saw at the Miami Arena. I want to
know since they started already to move the Camillus House concern at 3rd Court and Sth Street,
I am wondering what the status of the remaining part of Camillus house is there, at 726
Northeast 1st Avenue. I worry because any time something get lost, they dump it right there in
my neighborhood. Now, if they don't want it, they dump it there. And I say that because I
remember the people from here went to the City Commission to lobby the Camillus House move
to Allapattah. And I can name names. I'm not going to name them now, but I have the tape and
the transcript for that date there, and they were lobbying very hard, the City Commission, for
Camillus House. When I went to the City Commission to lobby, not to be at 19 and North
Miami, so help me. On the contrary, they went against us there. So I want to know what's going
on with Camillus house? That's the reason I keep on coming here. So far I haven't had any
answers.
Chairman Dawkins: OK. Go right ahead Mr. Board...
Board Member Carollo: Mr. Chairman, can I answer him?
Chairman Dawkins: Yes, sir.
Board Member Carollo: Mariano, let me tell you what the status is of Camillus House. It's my
understanding that the 31st of May, they had a board of directors meeting, and they voted that
once they find a site, they will move from the present site in Downtown Miami. They're looking
for sites in other areas right now.
Mr. Cruz: Where?
Board Member Carollo: Excuse me?
Mr. Cruz: In the county?
Board Member Carollo: I don't know where they're looking at, but they're looking for sites in
other areas. If you have any suggestions of any areas that you know about, I'd be happy to bring
it to Brother Paul.
Mr. Cruz: You've already got the name of the research center there, but the people in the Grove
and the Commission didn't want it. That was first pick. I was there.
Board Member Carollo: Anyway...
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Mr. Cruz: They will even give ten thousand dollars ($10,000) for it.
Board Member Carollo: That's the status of it.
Chairman Dawkins: I don't know, Mariano, Cruz. Like you said, you and I have been fighting
this from day one. Some kind of a way, somebody in the City of Miami, when we were fighting
very hard helped... and I've said this before and I'll say it again. Somebody helped Camillus
House to purchase the land over by I-95...
Unidentified Speaker: Overtown.
Chairman Dawkins: Overtown...
Mr. Cruz: Overtown, right, sir.
Chairman Dawkins: Somebody helped them, OK? Now they've had that for five, six, seven
years. And now, I see a sign on it, "We're going to build here." See? Now, what other site they
need?
Chairman Dawkins: See? But I don't know, but I tell you what, if it's the will of the Board, we
will schedule an item of discussion at the Overtown meeting, to have somebody from some place
find out what the plans for Camillus House are and give them to us, if that's OK.
Mr. Cruz: No, because I read in the papers they were planning to lease the land they own for
developers. That's what I read.
Chairman Dawkins: Well, OK. They may do anything. I'm not surprised.
Board Member Plummer: Yeah, but if they move anywhere, they've still got to come back
before the Commission for approval.
Chairman Dawkins: They do?
Board Member Gort: The final decision is here.
Ms. Anderson: Mr. Chairman, may I just add a point of in... for your information? The Building
Department in the City of Miami would have to issue a permit for anyone to begin construction,
and it should be easy to find out what the plans are.
Chairman Dawkins: You know, Sheila from anybody else I wouldn't even say anything. They
were supposed... They get whatever they want. You and I did not want... wait a minute. You
and I did not want the homeless center, but they went to the City of Miami and they got the
permits they wanted for the homeless center, so they're able to do anything around here they
want to do.
Ms. Anderson: Mr. Chairman, you need three votes to change the administration, and we'll all
support you.
Board Member Plummer: That was a three/two vote.
Chairman Dawkins: Well as soon as I get two more, you're in business. OK, anything else, sir?
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Mr. Alvarez: I'll just add one other thing.
Chairman Dawkins: Yes sir.
Mr. Alvarez: Well, we would ...
Chairman Dawkins: Pull the mike up sir. There you are.
Mr. Alvarez: ... We would certainly welcome a workshop. I think I would welcome it as well.
We've had a lot of discussion.
Chairman Dawkins: Oh sure. You get paid as a consultant. Off course, you'll welcome it.
Mr. Alvarez: Yes, but I did want to add that we have been out into the community, and there
have been about three community meetings we attended. I didn't want this to go on without
thinking that we haven't touched the community at all, so...
Chairman Dawkins: No, no, no, no, no, we aren't saying, that, OK. Hold it right there.
Carollo... go ahead.
Ms. Kluger: I'm saying...
Chairman Dawkins: Um huh, um huh, go right a...
Ms. Kluger: I mean, we've had one meeting here. Very few people from Smith Carr have been
into my place. We had one meeting for about five minutes. Nobody asked us any questions, and
I don't think that any of my neighbors know anything about what's happening, and I don't think
it's very fair for all the community to the west not to know about it. Now, I don't know who you
have visited, but almost all of the development is up towards the bay up to 21st Street. There is
not one thing going west, because none of the people from the west were invited in on this. And
I really think that a workshop would be wonderful. And I'm not saying that you should not go
ahead with your plan, OK? But I just think that we need to be asked and consulted, since we are
paying for the tax money, too.
Chairman Dawkins: OK, All right. We agree.
Mr. Bailey: Can I just say one thing?
Chairman Dawkins: Yes sir, Mr. Bailey.
Mr. Bailey: Mr. Chairman, this plan that... this is the first time we've had any kind of indication
as to what could possibly be done with the amount of money allocated, and this is really merely
a document for us to start reacting to. It's.not in any way final or any way determining what will
be the final product. We now have something to start working from. That's what this is for.
Board Member Plummer: You're igniting the fuse.
Chairman Dawkins: OK, OK. Any other discussion on 3? Yes sir, Mr. Joseph.
Mr. Joseph: One other item. All being fair, Eleanor, nor myself, nor any of the areas have been
on a workshop. This gentleman has come three times to different meetings; one time, I believe,
represented by DDA; another time to one of your sessions here, if I'm not, correct. Is that right?
And none of them were ever with any of our input, but they were all on to bring update
drawings. He brought them today, I assume. Did you not? Drawings?
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Mr Alvarez: We have them.
Mr. Joseph: OK. But we do invite him. Eleanor, myself, I'm sure you have. I think your idea
of scheduling workshops, wonderful. Let's do it. Because I don't think he has the direction to
go. DDA says the park's not in their boundaries, correct? That so... it's not...
Chairman Dawkins: It's not.
Mr. Joseph: It's only in our boundaries, and it's in our taxing district.
Chairman Dawkins: Right.
Mr. Joseph: It's not in Overtown's taxing district, it's not in the... any other taxing district but
this one.
Chairman Dawkins: Not in northeast taxing district.
Mr. Joseph: Correct. It's not in Wynwood, none of them. So, that's why Eleanor, myself... any
other people that represent a block of people in this taxing district, yes. Thank you for your
suggestion. You implement it, we'll be there.
Ms. Annette Eisenberg: I...
Chairman Dawkins: OK, all right. Oh, yes, ma'am. By all means.
Ms. Eisenberg: Oh, thank you. Oh, my God. First of all, in defense of DDA, the Omni area
came to us. We included them in the plans. We allocated the money for Carr Smith. Also, there
is three hundred thousand dollars ($300,000) in the overall park bond issue that I hope
everybody votes for it. It's a trust that is putting out a park bond issue in November, and three
hundred thousand dollars ($300,000) of that money is allocated for Pace Park. So nobody is
forgetting Omni completely. And the only thing we can hope for is that we sit down with the
documents now and work it out. But remember, DDA did allocate the funding for the plan.
Chairman Dawkins: An eighteen million dollar ($18,000,000) bond issue is being floated...
Ms. Eisenberg: Right.
Chairman Dawkins: ... and you're going to expect the people who live over here to support an
eighteen million dollar ($18,000,000) bond for three hundred thousand dollars ($300,000) to be
put in their Pace?
Ms. Eisenberg: Well, it's for... There are other parks in the City of Miami.
Chairman Dawkins: Well, OK. Hey, OK I just... I'm just asking. I don't know.
Ms. Eisenberg: Well, I might not have a park where I live, but I'm going to support it.
Chairman Dawkins: Move next door to me. I've got one in the front of me.
Ms. Eisenberg: You have a nice one, yeah. A nice pool, olympic pool, and all.
Chairman Dawkins: But all jokes aside, and we do need to sit down and...
Ms. Eisenberg: There's no objection to that.
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Chairman Dawkins:... see what we can... Mm-hmmm, no.
Ms. Eisenberg: In fact, DDA's having a goal session next month, and...
Chairman Dawkins: You quit patting DDA on the back, because you put up...
Ms. Eisenberg: Well, I'm on the Board and there's your chairman, there's your chairman over
there.
Chairman Dawkins: ... a lousy hundred thousand dollars ($100,000) for the... because you put
the lousy hundred thousand dollars ($100,000) up for the studies.
Ms. Eisenberg: Lousy?
Chairman Dawkins: Yeah. Quit putting yourself on the back, OK?
Board Member Plummer: Mr. Chairman, when you...
Ms. Eisenberg: But we do not forget Omni in our planning.
Chairman Dawkins: OK. All right. Thanks, Annette. Yes.
Commissioner Plummer: Mr. Chairman.
Commissioner Dawkins: Yes, sir.
Commissioner Plummer: I think that everybody needs to look seriously at that bond issue, and I
want to tell you, for one, the City of Miami is not coming up, with what I feel is a fair amount. I
so well remember the parks for bonds, the bonds to this ocean, and when I asked the County if
that was a three hundred million dollar ($300,000,000) bond issue, what did the City of Miami
get out of that bond issue? Listen to their response. You got three things: "You got
Rickenbacker Causeway redone." I thought that was a County causeway. Number two, "We
redid Vizcaya." I thought that was a County facility. Number three, they redid Dade County
Auditorium, which is also in the City of Miami. And those are the things that my tax payers paid
all in a three hundred million dollar ($300,000,000) bond for, and we got diddly, as far as I'm
concerned. I've looked at this new bond issue, and I want to tell you something, we need to go
in and fight, fight to get more allocation, if they expect us to support that issue, not only with our
vote, but with our dollars.
Chairman Dawkins: OK. Anything else on 3?
Board Member Plummer: Nope.
Chairman Dawkins: Yes, sir, come right ahead, sir.
Mr. Goenaga: Well, the...
Mr. Cruz: Your name for the record.
Mr. Goenaga: My name is the future Broom -Broom of Dade County. The issue, let's face it.
We must go to the bottom line. And I have attended again, I repeat, many meetings. I'm going
to say it a different way. We have, the City of Miami, has a very well paid financial advisor,
because the bottom line is dollars and cents, let's face it. And I have never seen our financial
advisor present to be questioned by the citizens. And I understand from the information that I
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have gathered, that he earns more than when he was City Manager, much more. I understand
that he gets his fees of seven hundred thousand dollars ($700,000) a year and that's, as far as I'm
concerned, obscene.
Chairman Dawkins: OK. Now...
Mr. Goenaga: And, you see, he's supposed to advise us, and he's not here present, not even at
the City of Miami. Incidentally, Mr. Plummer, the best way to keep my mouth shut is to, in the
Commission meetings, offer me food.
Chairman Dawkins: You see, but...
Board Member Plummer: The best way to keep your mouth shut is to offer you a free funeral.
Chairman Dawkins: No, but you see, your demands... your demands are unfair to this Board.
The gentleman that you're speaking about is not a financial advisor to this Board. That
gentleman is a financial advisor to the City of Miami. So, therefore, if you want that individual
at City of Miami Commission meetings, then you write and tell the Manager or one of us to have
the gentleman there so that you can ask him some questions, but not here, not in this. This is the
wrong forum, OK. Yes, Eleanor, Eleanor, mm-hmm.
Ms. Kluger: Just one more comment about the DDA. We don't want to cast any aspersions on
the DDA. We do appreciate their help. They did have a thirty thousand dollars ($30,000) study
that came from the Omni tax increment monies that we have, or money from the DDA money...
excuse me, not from the Omni tax. And my problem with it is that in the last two years, there
has been a coming together of the Omni area. We were not really put into this study that much,
and we feel that we deserve to form that group of ten that you promised or maybe eleven,
however the Board should be, and it would represent the people here we have from the Plaza
Venetia, maybe it's two people from there, maybe two people or three people from here,
according to the proportion of how many residents and taxpayers there are, and we want to bring
in the people from the west. So we just need a little time to organize, join your workshop, and
give everybody's opinion into it. Thank you.
Chairman Dawkins: OK. Well I provided Mr. Joseph with a document where we created the
Overtown Advisory Board, and I think that it would be advantageous if this group were to
organize their own advisory group. Let the City of Miami sanction it the same as we did that
one, and then you would have your own advisory group. OK. Anything else on... Yes, sir.
Mr. Cruz: Well, the only thing I'd like to add, that we've live in this neighborhood right here,
five minutes away, for many years, and we would like to see here nice things going.. What's
that other place you go, Pembroke Lakes? - To have lunch or whatever, to come like we used to
come here and eat, not just at the S and S, but go to the Red Coach Grill, or Arthur's, or Johnny's
Lobo, or go and shop at Sears or different place, because that was... this was a very... I
remember years ago, we didn't even have to get out of Allapattah or any place to go shopping.
Now, you've got to go way out to do anything. We used to have everything right here. How can
we have that?
Chairman Dawkins: We're going to get it back. OK.
Mr. Cruz: I stay here...
Chairman Dawkins: Oh, I'm not going any place, but to Heaven when I leave here. OK. Thank
you, sir, for your presentation, and we will... Mr. Bailey and us, we will get together to organize
a workshop, and at that workshop, you can tell us what you want to present, and what have you.
OK.
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Board Member Plummer: You can have it here as my guests.
Commissioner Dawkins: No, I think I want to go where I can kick my heels up. This is a little
too fancy.
Board Member Plummer: I'll... We'll get you a room and you can do that, too.
Chairman Dawkins: OK, all right. No problem.
Board Member Plummer: We'll make it a lunch workshop.
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3. ACCEPT OMNI INTERLOCAL COOPERATION AGREEMENT WITH
METRO-DADE COUNTY, WITH CONDITIONS [(1) CRA'S OBLIGATION
WILL NOT EXCEED $1.43 MILLION WITHIN A GIVEN YEAR; (2) IF A
SHORTFALL OCCURS, CRA WILL ONLY PAY WHAT IT HAS
COLLECTED, AND (3) ALL PERMITS AND INSPECTIONS IN CRA
DISTRICT WILL BE ISSUED BY CITY.] (See label 1).
Chairman Dawkins: OK. Is the gentleman here from the County who's supposed to accept the
Omni Interlocal Agreement? You...
Unidentified Speaker: I'm here on behalf of to find his way.
Chairman Dawkins: OK, that's all right. Well, this is the Interlocal Agreement. I circulated it
to all of my fellow Board Members. They had, as of now, they've had no complaints. I've
signed it. You may take it back to the County.
Board Member Plummer: Well, I have another question.
Commissioner Dawkins: Yes.
Board Member Plummer: The question relating to page 2, Mr. Bailey. Commissioner Dawkins
and I have both had a problem. I'm concerned where it says the County shall have overall
responsibility for the Performing Arts Center. That does not mean Building and Zoning.
Chairman Dawkins: Bring it back. I may have signed it...
Board Member Plummer: Is that correct?
Mr. Bailey: No. It does mean issuing permits, and that was a concession that you made to the
County at a meeting for which they came and asked for that, and you gave it to them.
Chairman Dawkins: But we can take it back.
Mr. Bailey: No. That was a very highly discussed item staff -wise and otherwise, and they came
to a meeting for which they called a special meeting of the City Commission, and in that
discussion was that particular item regarding them being able to issue their own permits, do their
own inspection, and...
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Chairman Dawkins: I don't recall that one. OK...
Board Member Plummer: They... excuse me, that's correct. They took it out of the last
agreement. Now, it's suddenly appeared back in.
Chairman Dawkins: Now they're putting it... it's come back.
Mr. Bailey: It's back in there?
Chairman Dawkins: That's right. Yes.
Board Member Plummer: Yeah.
Mr. Bailey: No, no.
Chairman Dawkins: Yes, it is.
Board Member Plummer: Yes. It says... let me read it to you. "Whereas the County and the
CRA desire to provide manner in which County shall have overall responsibility for the
Performing Arts Center."
Mr. Bailey: Oh, that is correct. That's correct.
Board Member Plummer: Now let's understand each other, because there are some things in
here that are silent that bother me. OK? One of them refers to the issuing of permits to the
buildings, and all of that. I don't find that in here.
Mr. Bailey: They removed that.
Board Member Plummer: OK. It's not in here.
Mr. Bailey: But we did give them the...
Board Member Plummer: And they fully understand that it's not in here.
Mr. Bailey: That's correct.
Board Member Carollo: Who...
Board Member Plummer: Why isn't it written in here, since it was an item of contention?
Mr. Bailey: Because, if it's not there, they're not legally permissible to do that.
Board Member Plummer: OK. I hope that they understand that, and that the motion that will be
made to approve this Interlocal will be subject to the understanding that the City will, at all
times, issue any and all permits and inspections for any area of the CRA.
Mr. Bailey: I think the Law Department even indicated that you could not give them that. That
was discussed... something that we can't do.
Chairman Dawkins: No, no, listen, listen, listen, listen. Who gave what? J.L. made a motion,
and the motion is proper. Make your motion J.L.
Board Member Gort: Second.
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Board Member Plummer: Well, wait a minute, hold on. I have one other question. Mr. Bailey,
I don't find any terminology in this in reference to less than the million -four -three a year. I don't
find anything in here that says that we're not obligated, if in fact, it's less than the one point four.
Mr. Bailey: It is there.
Board Member Plummer: Give it to me. Where is it?
Unidentified Speaker: Page 5.
Board Member Plummer: Page 5?
(INAUDIBLE COMMENTS NOT ENTERED INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD.)
Board Member Plummer: Which line?
Unidentified Speaker: Nine.
Board Member Plummer: One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine. It just says, "not
more than." It doesn't say, "if there's a shortage." It's silent.
Chairman Dawkins: What's the difference of not more than...
Unidentified Speaker: It says up to...
Board Member Plummer: "Up to," but I'm talking about on shortage...
Unidentified Speaker: Finish the sentence.
Board Member Plummer: In the fund. But if it's this short there's nothing in this document
saying that we're not responsible for anything less than.
Mr. Bailey: That's what "up to" means.
Board Member Plummer: What?
Mr. Bailey: That's what "up" to means. Up to, no more.
Board Member Plummer: Mr. Bailey, what I'm saying to you is that I would prefer language
saying that if, in fact, there was a shortage of the million one four or the one million -four...
Chairman Dawkins: Put that in your ... incorporate that in your motion.
Board Member Plummer: OK.
Board Member Carollo: Put that in Spanish and Creole, so Plummer could understand it.
Board Member Plummer: That the City... The CRA has no obligation in that year, and starts off
clean the next.
Chairman Dawkins: OK.
Board Member Plummer: I'll make the motion.
Chairman Dawkins: All right. What is... Now you have ...
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Board Member Plummer: The motion to accept the Interlocal Agreement with the following
provisos: Number one, that the CRA at no time will be obligated for more than the one million
point four -three.
Commissioner Carollo: Like it says down here.
Board Member Plummer: That's it. Should a shortfall occur in that given year, the CRA will
not pay any more than what it has collected.
Chairman Dawkins: OK.
Board Member Plummer: Subject number 2, that any and all permits issued in the CRA will be
by the City of Miami.
Chairman Dawkins: And all inspections.
Board Member Plummer: And all inspections, yes. I so move.
Chairman Dawkins: Is there a second?
Board Member Gort: Second.
Chairman Dawkins: Does the seconder understand... they accept the amendments?
Board Member Gort: Yes, I do.
Chairman Dawkins: Any discussions on the motion?
Board Member Carollo: Last point of discussion. Mr. Friedman, you have gone through every
sentence of this contract, and you're absolutely sure there's nothing here that's going to come
back and haunt any of us?
Board Member Plummer: That's a baited question.
Mr. Robert Friedman: What...
Board Member Carollo: Because if not, we're going to come back and haunt you.
Mr. Friedman: I understand that, Mr. Carollo. I want to make a point here that at the last
meeting when the agreement was discussed, Mr. Plummer pointed out that provision relating to
permits from... that he thought should be issued by the City, and there was a provision in the
agreement that the County was going to have responsibility for that. Based on the motion at that
meeting, that was deleted, so what we're back to is general law which means that the City has
the ability and the right to issue the permits for the project. The County doesn't have that
ability.
Board Member Carollo: That's all fine, but you still haven't answered my question. Is there
anything here that, in your opinion, can come back and haunt us?
Mr. Friedman: No.
Board Member Carollo: OK.
Board Member Plummer: Joe, let me... the reason I'm., Mr. Friedman, that I'm being so
particular, the document we had Thursday for the expansion of the port is calling for the City to
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have... the County to have full control over the permitting of any and all permits and fees related
to the expansion of the port. That's in that document. So, you know, if they're asking for it
there, my concern is that they're going to ask for it somewhere else. There's a lot of other
changes been made in that document, but I think Commissioner Dawkins and I have both been
very vocal on the fact that the City is going to retain its rights, and its rights to issue building
permits, inspections, and the likewise.
Mr. Bailey: Well, the Law Department has given you a riling. You can't give it to them if you
wanted to.
Board Member Gort: Yeah. You can't give it away.
Mr. Carollo: I call the question.
Board Member Plummer: Mr. Bailey, you look at the document for Thursday and I'll show you
it's there.
Chairman Dawkins: OK.
Board Member Carollo: I call the question.
Chairman Dawkins: All right, call the roll, Mr. Clerk.
The following motion was introduced by Booard Member Plummer, who moved its adoption:
MOTION NO. 96-7
A MOTION ACCEPTING THE OMNI INTERLOCAL COOPERATION
AGREEMENT WITH METRO-DADE COUNTY WITH THE FOLLOWING
PROVISOS: (1) THE CRA WILL AT NO TIME BE OBLIGATED FOR MORE
THAN THE ONE POINT FOUR THREE MILLION DOLLARS ($1,430,000) WITHIN
A GIVEN YEAR; (2) SHOULD A SHORTFALL OCCUR IN THAT GIVEN YEAR,
THE CRA DISTRICT WILL NOT PAY ANY MORE THAN WHAT IT HAS
COLLECTED; (3) ALL PERMITS AND INSPECTIONS IN THE CRA WILL BE
ISSUED BY THE CITY OF MIAMI.
Upon being seconded by Board Member Gort, the motion was passed and adopted by the
following vote:
AYES: Board Member Joe Carollo
Board Member J.L. Plummer, Jr.
Board Member Wifredo Gort
Chairman Miller J. Dawkins
NAYS: None.
ABSENT: None.
Board Member Plummer: New business. When are we going to have this committee of ten?
Mr. Bailey: Mr. Chairman, you can't give her that.
Unidentified Speaker: Thank you.
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Chairman Dawkins: Why?
Unidentified Speaker: No. You can amend it.
Mr. Bailey: No. You got... There has to be a cover letter, including this motion that you've just
made with that understanding.
Chairman Dawkins: OK. All right. Tell them I couldn't give it, they wouldn't... I couldn't give
it to you, because we just amended it.
Board Member Plummer: They don't trust it.
Mr. Bailey: No problem. OK.
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4. BRIEF DISCUSSION CONCERNING TEN MEMBER COMMITTEE TO
ADVISE CRA BOARD.
Board Member Plummer: When are we going to have the appointments of this committee of
ten?
Mr. Bailey: What committee of ten?
Board Member Plummer: We're going to have the committee... I thought we agreed that we
were going to appoint ten people to be an advisory board to this Board.
Chairman Dawkins: Well, I thought they were going to elect the ten people.
Board Member Gort: They were going to do it themselves.
Chairman Dawkins: I thought they were going to elect them themselves.
Board Member Plummer: You're going to elect it yourselves?
Board Member Gort: Yes.
Board Member Plummer: When is that being scheduled for?
Mr. Fred Joseph: We're working on it now. I'm just giving the package to Eleanor.
Ms. Kluger: Thirty days.
Board Member Plummer: Fine.
Chairman Dawkins: OK. Anything else?
Mr. Joseph: I would wish to offer that if anybody needs parking valet, I've got the stickers with
me. Let me know.
Board Member Gort: I park across the street, fifty cents.
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Chairman Dawkins: Fifty cents, you can give me...
Mr. Joseph: Well, you may get a ticket in the City of Miami.
Chairman Dawkins: OK.
Board Member Plummer: I didn't do it. I'm guilty.
Mr. Joseph: Anybody wish to see me before they leave and enjoy the refreshments.
Ms. Kluger: I do.
Chairman Dawkins: Anything else?
Ms. Kluger: No.
Board Member Gort: Thank you..
Chairman Dawkins: We are adjourned.
Board Member Plummer: So be it. Always in order.
THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS TO COME BEFORE THE CRA,
THE MEETING WAS ADJOURNED AT 7:50 P.M.
ATTEST:
Walter J. Foeman
CITY CLERK
Maria J. Argudin
ASSISTANT CITY CLERK
Miller J. Dawkins
CHAIRMAN
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