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HomeMy WebLinkAboutSEOPW OMNI CRA 1996-04-29 MinutesCIV of: �VIIAMI 11 Acle"Cl REpEVEL� NIIN�'es .19 29 ®F CIV ��`�LARK TEE C TNT OF�o�� �.p►pp►�'® oil 'P� INDEX MINUTES OF CRA/SEOPW MEETING AprII 29,1996 ITEM SUBJECT LEGISLATION PAGE NO. NO. 1. DISCUSS AND DEFER CONSIDERATION OF CRA DISCUSSIONv 2-3 LEASE AGREEMENT FOR OFFICE SPACE WITH 4/29/96 CITADEL ARENA CORPORATION, PENDING MRE BIDS. 2. POTENTIAL DEVELOPERS OF BLOCKS 25 AND DISCUSSION 4-5 36 RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT PRO►7ECr WILL 4/29/96 MAKE PRESENTATIONS AT NEXT CRA BOARD MEETING (PRESENTLY Sam= FOR JUKE 17TH) -- BOARD WILL SELECT TWO DEVELOPERS FROM THE FOLLOWING TO COME BACK WITH FULL PROPOSALS: ST. JOHN'S COMMUNITY DEVELOPMEiJI' CORPORATION, THE RELATED CROUP OF FLORIDA, KASTARLAK ASSOCIATES OF PALM BEACH GARDENS, DOWNTOWN MIAMI COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COALITION, INC., AND NEW HARDSCRABBLE CORPORATION, ALONG WITH NHP PARTNERS, INC. 3. APPROVE FUNDING REQUEST ($363,720) AS M CRA/SEOPW 5-14 GRAD TO DEVELOPER OF POINCIANA VILLAGE 96-2 (NAMELY, POINCIANA VILLAGE OF MIAMI, 4/29/96 LTD.) FROM CRA FOR HOUSING PROJECT -- TO COVER COST INCREASES, SUBJECT TO AN AUDIT. 4. DIRECT EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR TO MAKE STAFF DISCUSSION 14-15 AVAILABLE TO CALL BOARD MEMBERS AND 4/29/96 ADDRESS QUESTIONS THAT BOARD MEMBERS MAY HAVE IN CONNECTION WITH STATUS OF FORECLOSURE OF ARENA TOWERS APARTMENTS. 5. DIRECT ADMINISTRATION (CPR DEPT.) TO DISCUSSION 15-19 FINALIZE FINANCIAL INFORMATION 4/29/96 CONCERNING RIVERSIDE REVITALIZATION PLAN AND BRING IT BACK TO CRA BOARD -- PROVIDE BOARD WITH TOTAL PACKAGE OF INFORMATION PRIOR TO THE MEETING. 6. CRA CHAIRMAN INDICATES THAT, IF DISCUSSION NECESSARY, HE WILL HIRE A CONSULTANT IN 4/29/96 FURTHERANCE OF JOSE ALEMAN'S OFFER LNG HOUSING IN OVERlM AND CITY OF MIAMI, IN ORDER TO ENSURE COMPLETION. 7. SCMRULE NEXT CRA BOARD MEETING FOR MAY DISCUSSION 20, 1996, AT GRAD 4/29/96 CONDOMINIUK/DOUBLETREE HOTEL. 8. (A) MARIANO OW ADDRESSES THE CRA DISCUSSION BOARD REGARDING HOUSING IN THE CITY AND 4/29/96 EMPTY LOTS IN THE ALLAPATTAH AREA (B) CRA CHAIRMAN INFORMS REV. JOHN WHITE THAT HIS PROPOSED NEW HOPE / OVERTOWN HOUSING PROJECT MUST BE ADVERTISED AND SCHEDULED ON FUTURE CRA BOARD MEETING AGENDA. (C) CRA CHAIRMAN REQUESTS EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR TO PROVIDE BOARD MEMBERS WITH COPIES OF ALL AUDITS PERFORMED IN CONNECCTION WITH CRA. (D) IRBY MCKNTGHT REQUESTS CRA BOARD TO INVESTIGATE PROPOSED WIDENING OF STATE ROAD 112 TO 10 LANES -- DIRECT EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR TO MEET WITH CARR- SMITH (CONSUfITANTS) CONCERNING WIDENING OF STATE ROAD 112 AND BRING BACK MAPS FOR FMLANATION / CLARIFICATION / VISUALIZATION OF PROJECT. (E) IRBY MCIINIGHT ADDRESSES THE CRA BOARD REGARDING LACK OF BICYCLE TRAILS AND HIKING TRAILS IN THE CVERTOWN, BRU& VILLE, MODEL CITY, EDISON AND LITTLE HAITI SECTORS OF THE CITY (F) DISCUSSION CONCERNING SC MXMING OF NCMINA.TIONS FOR DDA AND PERFORMING ARTS CENTER TRUST ON CRA AGENDA OF MAY 20, 1996. (G) CLARA WALLAM REQUESTS TO BE SCHEDULED ON NEXT SEOPW REDEVEMPMENT DISTRICT BOARD OF DIRECTORS MEETING CONCERNING DAY CARE FUNDING. 19-20 20 20-27 19 MINUTES OF REGULAR MEETING OF THE SOUTHEAST OVERTOWN/PARK WEST COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY AND OMNI COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY On the 29th day of April, 1996, the Southeast Overtown/Park west Community Redevelopment Agency and the Omni Community Redevelopment Agency (CRA) met at the City of Miami City Hall Chamber, 3500 Pan American Drive, Miami, Florida in regular session. The meeting was called to order at 7:00 p.m. by Chairman Miller J. Dawkins with the following members of the Board found to be present: Chairman Miller J. Dawkins Board Member J.L. Plummer, Jr. Board Member Wifredo Gort ALSO PRESENT: ABSENT: Walter J. Foeman, City Clerk Maria J. Argudin, Assistant City Clerk Herb Bailey, Executive Director Vice Chairman Stephen P. Clark Board Member Joe Carollo Robert Friedman, Special Counsel An invocation was delivered by Chairman Dawkins who then led those present in a pledge of allegiance to the flag. NOTE FOR THE RECORD: On a motion duly made by Board Member Plummer and seconded by Board Member Gort, the minutes of meeting of March 18, 1996, were approved. 1 April 29, 1996 W ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1. DISCUSS AND DEFER CONSIDERATION OF CRA LEASE AGREEMENT FOR OFFICE SPACE WITH CITADEL ARENA CORPORATION, PENDING MORE BIDS. Chairman Dawkins: Three, Mr. Bailey. Mr. Herb Bailey (Executive Director): You have in your packet, Mr. Chairman, a summary of what our lease represents for the building that we intend to locate the offices in, the Citadel. On the item where it says the rate, which is 16,000 square foot, that does not include tenant improvements or furniture. We decided that we would do our own tenant improvements, and we took six dollars ($6) off the square foot price. Board Member Plummer: So that's ten dollars ($10)? Mr. Bailey: I beg your pardon? Board Member Plummer: That's ten dollars ($10) instead of sixteen ($16). Mr. Bailey: It's 16 ($16). No, we do not... that... Board Member Gort: It would be an additional six if there was... Mr. Bailey: It would be an additional six if we had... Board Member Plummer: Six dollars ($6) per square foot? Board Member Gort: It would have been 22; is that what you're saying? Mr. Bailey: Right, right, with tenant improvements. We have not... Board Member Plummer: And the two options. Mr. Bailey: We don't have the final estimate for the furniture. We do have one estimate for the tenant improvements, which we have decided that we perhaps need to go out and get several more bids. We're trying to bring it in at a more decent price for the tenant improvements. That's the construction deal. Board Member Plummer: What is it estimated at now? Mr. Bailey: Well, it's estimated, from the contractor who is... who did the building at a hundred and ninety-five thousand ($195,000) for the tenant improvements, for 4,393 square feet. We think that's a little high. Board Member Plummer: Ha! Mr. Bailey: So I will be in discussion with the chairman in terms of how we go out and get additional bids. I think we should get at least three or four more bids on the tenant improvement. Board Member Plummer: I'd move that it be deferred until we have all of the numbers. 2 April 29, 1996 Chairman Dawkins: So move. Mr. Bailey: Well, we're not bringing it, you know, today for approval, anyway. It's just a matter of discussion. Board Member Plummer: OK. My only other question, Mr. Chairman, is on the two five-year renewal options, are they at the option of the City, or at that option of the community... Board Member Gort: The CRA. Board Member Plummer:... the CRA? Mr. Bailey: The two renewal options. Mr. Erdal Donmez (Development Coordinator): It's our option. Mr. Bailey: Mr. Bailey: It's the CRA option. Board Member Plummer: Our option. Mr. Bailey: Yes. Board Member Plummer: In other words, if we don't want to, we don't have to renew. OK. Board Member Gort: It's a beautiful building. Chairman Dawkins: And one question. The money that was set aside to purchase a building, we worked out an agreement where the... it would be set aside and the interest would go back to us for rent; is that right? Mr. Bailey: Well... Chairman Dawkins: That's OK. We'll get to that at the next meeting. Mr. Bailey: Yeah, the Budget Department hasn't told me. Chairman Dawkins: OK. We'll get to that at the next meeting. END OF DISCUSSION -- NO ACTION TAKEN 3 April 29, 1996 .13 ter.• r --------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 2. POTENTIAL DEVELOPERS OF BLOCKS 25 AND 36 RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT PROJECT WILL MAKE PRESENTATIONS AT NEXT CRA BOARD MEETING (PRESENTLY SCHEDULED FOR JUNE 17TH) -- BOARD WILL SELECT TWO DEVELOPERS FROM THE FOLLOWING TO COME BACK WITH FULL PROPOSALS: ST. JOHN'S COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, THE RELATED GROUP OF FLORIDA, KASTARLAK ASSOCIATES OF PALM BEACH GARDENS, DOWNTOWN MIAMI COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COALITION, INC., AND NEW HARDSCRABBLE CORPORATION, ALONG WITH NHP PARTNERS, INC. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Chairman Dawkins: Item 4. Mr. Erdal Donmez: Excuse me. My name is Erdal Donmez. I'm a development coordinator with the Community Redevelopment Agency. The CRA issued an RFQ (Request for Qualifications) for the development of Blocks Number 25 and 36 back in January 31st. On May 20th - excuse me - March 20th deadline, we received three proposals. Selection Committee set up by this CRA Board held its first meeting last Friday. The meeting was a procedural meeting explaining the committee's responsibilities, as far as the evaluations and rankings. The next meeting is going to be on May 14th. At that time, the developers are going to make presentations, and the committee is going to rank and pick two developers, and ask them to come back with full blown proposals. Chairman Dawkins: Where will... At what point will you present what you have to the Overtown Advisory Board? The Overtown Advisory Board was established by the Commission - and if I'm wrong, somebody up here will correct me - as an oversight or... committee for things in Overtown, and it was supposed to go by them for review or what have you. So at what point will they be privileged to find out what we're doing? Mr. Herb Bailey (Executive Director): They were... Before we went out with the RFQ, we made a presentation to the Overtown Advisory Board. We discussed with them where the development was going to be, what was going to be there, and what we were trying to do. At this point in time, when the committee finishes its selection, and those meetings are open to the public, we have an obligation to bring it back to the Board before we take it anywhere else. Board Member Plummer: Well, I think that makes good sense, because if the Board doesn't proceed with it, then why take it to the public? I think you only want to take something to the public that the Board has first approved. It would seem logical to me. Chairman Dawkins: I hear you, but I don't understand what we're saying, because we sent out the RFQ for quotations. I wasn't interested in whether the Overtown Advisory Board saw it then or not. But now that we're going out for proposals, at least the Overtown Advisory Board should be made aware of what's being proposed, and then bring it to us. Mr. Bailey: Well, that's after you approve the people who are selected, see, because the RF... Chairman Dawkins: Yeah, but... No, wait a minute. No, no, no. Get it to them before, because I can't approve... I'm not going to select nobody that they don't approve of too. Mr. Bailey: Well, you made a... You put together a selection committee to perform that function. 4 April 29, 1996 Chairman Dawkins: Yeah but... Board Member Plummer: To recommend two. Mr. Bailey: To recommend two. Chairman Dawkins: OK. Mr. Bailey: And then after those two have been recommended, which is a public... everybody knows that public... it would be a public notice. You can't change those two. And the only thing those two are going to come back and do is just tell us how they're going to do it. When those proposals come in, you know, we... You will then have to make another decision. Chairman Dawkins: OK. Board Member Plummer: And that decision might be that we don't like the two proposals, and we throw them out and start over again. Mr. Bailey: That's possible. Board Member Plummer: It's happened before. Chairman Dawkins: OK. Anything else on that, Mr. Bailey? Board Member Plummer: I just got one question. Is this a typo error? Is one of the companies called Hard Scrabble? Mr. Donmez: That's the name of the company. Board Member Plummer: I'd be scared of those people. END OF DISCUSSION -- NO ACTION TAKEN ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3. APPROVE FUNDING REQUEST ($363,720) AS GRANT TO DEVELOPER OF POINCIANA VILLAGE (NAMELY, POINCIANA VILLAGE OF MIAMI, LTD.) FROM CRA FOR HOUSING PROJECT -- TO COVER COST INCREASES, SUBJECT TO AN AUDIT. Chairman Dawkins: OK, 5, Mr. Bailey. Mr. Herb Bailey (Executive Director): We are again requesting that we provide some... grant assistance to Poinciana Village, which has been stalled for some time. Mr. Weitzel is here to again make a proposal to the Board. And I would just like to say that we've been stalled in Overtown now for quite a few years. Things happened which we had no control over, and our effort in trying to build new projects on those two blocks we just discussed is a matter of making sure that we do something that we had promised in Overtown. Of course, we have other projects on the interior parts of Overtown that we have to involve ourselves with, but Poinciana Village has to be completed. It is commendable that people who have put up deposits are real adamant about getting their units at the prices that they were promised. It's a matter of marketing. It's 5 April 29, 1996 been our experience not one developer who has invested in Overtown has made any money. In fact, they've lost. And to get someone to come in and invest in the development of the community of which local people just don't involve themselves... Mr. Weitzel is the only local person that has made an investment in Overtown. Everybody else was somewhere else. We have plenty of contractors who are willing to come in and build and get a fee, but we don't have anybody who wants to come and make an investment. And we, on many occasions - and I can document up to about ten or twelve million dollars ($10,000,000 or $12,000,000) worth - had situations where we have gone out and helped developers to overcome a situation, and what we're asking here, we think is a very small amount to get this development moving. We have another 115 units that should be completed at Poinciana Village, for which Mr. Weitzel has indicated to us, even putting his own resources from other projects, that he's willing to make that, take that risk. But we do need to have this development move forward. It's standing there, and we have a block half completed. Board Member Plummer: Well, let me just... Once again, in reading from the law - the opinion - I read very clearly. And it says here that the developer may notify the purchaser - the purchaser - of additional cost. And that if not, the developer has the right to terminate. Now, you know, I... I grew up in a theory that says consumer pays. And all I got to say to you is, it would be a gift of three hundred... is what they're asking for is a gift of three hundred and sixty- three thousand seven hundred and twenty dollars ($363,720). And I just don't think it's fair, because what you'd be doing, number one, is setting a precedent for other development. And I think at this particular time that if the developer has gone back to the people in writing and informed them of the additional cost, as called for in the contract, and they have not agreed to do such, and I don't know how much it would be additional, then I think that we ought to go back out with another RFP (Request for Proposals) and see if we can't get a better price. If we can't get a better price, we're still not going to be more than three hundred and sixty-three thousand dollars ($363,000), in my estimation, out of pocket. But it's just... I can't vote for giving a gift, and that's what it looks like to me. Mr. Bailey: Well, Commissioner Plummer, we... In Overtown, you have to understand where we are. You also have to realize that when Poinciana Village was first developed, we couldn't get an FHA (Federal Housing Agency) appraisal, because they never had a house in Overtown that sold for sixty-nine thousand ($69,000) at the time. We are now... We are now at a point where the houses are selling at ninety-two thousand ($92,000). There's a limit on how much we can do under FHA, and there's also a limit in terms of what we can get as a comparable in certain locations. We'll never get a comparable in Overtown that's going to absorb the cost that it's going to take to finish those units. Now... Board Member Plummer: But you'll never know unless you go out to a rebid. Mr. Bailey: No. We know at this point in time, we couldn't even get one for sixty-nine thousand ($69,000). We had to sell the first three or four conventionally so FHA would have a comparable. And it's not a precedent. I don't mean to be argumentative, but I can factually point to you where we have already in many cases subsidized developers in order to deliver the product, so that the consumer, in the area that we want to have them in, can be... can buy them. And it doesn't go to the developer. It goes to the end user. And every day in Overtown, we subsidize buildings. We subsidize housing, and we subsidize developer. Board Member Plummer: You're subsidizing the land now. Mr. Bailey: Well, one of the most notable subsidies that we've just given was over a million and a half to the developer of the Olympia Building, which one million ($1,000,000) of that is really a subsidy, because it's home money and it's a nonamortizing loan. And I can go on, and on, and on to any number of them. 6 April 29, 1996 Board Member Plummer: Hey... Mr. Bailey: So, you know... And Overtown is a place where we made a commitment. We have to get something done. Board Member Plummer: Mr. Bailey, you don't have to keep... Chairman Dawkins: You're out of order, Mr. Plummer. Board Member Plummer:... pushing. Chairman Dawkins: Go ahead, Mr. Gort, and then Mr. Plummer. Board Member Plummer: No, I have nothing more. Chairman Dawkins: Yeah, but I'm not going to let you just monopolize the meeting. Take it easy. Board Member Plummer: No, no, no. I have nothing more to say. Chairman Dawkins: Take it easy. Go ahead. Board Member Gort: Mr. Dawkins, my question is, we have a commitment to build houses, and my question to you - I think you answered it already - has this been done before? My experience - I've not been here that long - but the experience we had in Coconut Grove, the one where you and I are the... I mean, we've subsidized that one by, I think, forty thousand dollars ($40,000) per unit. Mr. Bailey: Fifty thousand ($50,000) per unit. Board Member Gort: Fifty Thousand ($50,000) per unit. And my understanding is, in this Poinciana deal, this is to break even? Mr. Bailey: It is to break even. Board Member Gort: To be able to finish the project that has already been started, to break even, so the benefit would be going to the individual who is buying the property. Mr. Bailey: That's correct. Board Member Gort: This is a condominium project. Mr. Bailey: That's correct. Board Member Gort: What... Is that going to be into our tax roll? Do you have any idea, more or less? Mr. Bailey: Yes, it's going to... In fact, that's the other point I didn't mention. We need to increase the tax base, because, as you know, we are still operating at a deficit. Board Member Gort: Right. What would that... Do you have any idea right now what the finishing of the project would be for the tax rolls, the additional taxes? 7 April 29, 1996 .g�) Mr. Bailey: I don't have an idea, but I think... Mr. Donmez: It would be about thirty thousand dollars ($30,000) for the CRA. Board Member Gort: An additional thirty thousand dollars ($30,000). Mr. Donmez: That's correct. And total taxes would be approximately sixty thousand dollars ($60,000) a year. Board Member Gort: And if we continue to build, the property value would go up, and that would go up, and that could be repaid within ten years. Mr. Donmez: That's correct. Board Member Gort: OK. Thank you. Chairman Dawkins: Mr. Plummer. Board Member Plummer: Mr. Dawkins, I really have no more to say. I think that the City should hang its head in shame, as far as housing is concerned. I drive by the biggest embarrassment to this City every day, called St. Hugh Oaks. There's still nobody there. They're still paying a thousand dollars ($1,000) a week for security. The places aren't occupied, and I think we ought to someday sit up and take notice that we should be out of the business, because we're not doing worth a tinker's pahoot when it comes to housing. NOTE FOR THE RECORD: Vice Chairman Clark entered the chamber at 7:13 p.m. Board Member Plummer: There he is, "el alcalde grande." Mr. Bailey: Mr. Plummer, may I make a comment? Board Member Plummer: Sure. Mr. Bailey: Thank you. Chairman Dawkins: Mr. Mayor, we're on item 5. Board Member Plummer: Item 5. Mr. Bailey: If you recall, Mr. Plummer, that St. Hugh Oaks and the reason those units are there unsold is because of some direction we got from the Commission. They were also built because of the direction we got. And I will submit to you, at the time those units were built, out of the 23 units, we had 21 of them sold. However, when we were subjected to go to a lottery, people who had qualified and were ready to buy the units at that price said, "We aren't going to wait." And staff will bear that out, and the Housing Department. And they walked away. We seem to think that if we were... could have been permitted to do it on a first come first sell basis, those units would have been sold a long time ago. We build what we were instructed to build, based on what the community asked you to put there for them. And it's just unfortunate that one of our experiences in terms of marketing was one that we realized that we can't, at that price, have consumers to sit by and say, "I'm doing you a favor," and wait. They walked away. But we had - and we have it as a matter of record - 21 of 23 of those units, had been sold. 8 April 29, 1996 Chairman Dawkins: Mr. Bailey... Board Member Plummer: Still vacant. Chairman Dawkins: Go ahead, go ahead, Mr. Plummer. Board Member Plummer: No. Chairman Dawkins: OK. Mr. Bailey, am I correct in hearing that the money that will be advanced, that there will be no profit made on this project? Mr. Bailey: We have been told... and the developer is here, and I would like for the developer to make the statement on the record. We're just trying to break even, to get something happening. It's the most important thing for us to make something happen in Overtown. Chairman Dawkins: Will a profit be made on this project? Mr. Bailey: I would suggest that the developer speak on the record to that, sir. Chairman Dawkins: OK. Mr. Ted Weitzel: Ted Weitzel, Poinciana Village. Mr. Morris Davis: Morris Davis, Poinciana Village. Mr. Weitzel: The answer is, no, there will be no profit made. To date, on the first two phases, both have been at a loss. This third phase, the three hundred and sixty-three is just to break even. Chairman Dawkins: Say what, now? On the first two phases, what, now? Mr. Weitzel: The first twelve units that we built - they're sold out - we built and sold at a loss. The second phase of 28 units... Chairman Dawkins: Well wait. Am I making up that loss, giving you the three hundred and eight -six thousand dollars? Mr. Weitzel: No. Chairman Dawkins: That's what I'm asking you. Mr. Weitzel: No. Chairman Dawkins: OK. So... And what will the money permit you to sell the units at? Mr. Weitzel: There's... Chairman Dawkins: The ones... How many units will it be? Mr. Weitzel: Twenty-four units. Chairman Dawkins: And they'll be... And so with the subsidy that you're getting, it would make the sales price what? 9 April 29, 1996 Mr. Weitzel: Varies between a low of sixty-nine thousand five hundred ($69,500) to a high of... Chairman Dawkins: Sixty-nine is for how many bedrooms? Mr. Weitzel: Two bedrooms, two baths. Chairman Dawkins: Two bedrooms, two baths. OK. Mr. Weitzel: And three bedrooms, two baths would be a high of... I don't have my glasses on. Chairman Dawkins: OK, take your time. Mr. Weitzel: OK. I think it's ninety-six. Chairman Dawkins: You have to read it correctly for the record, please. Mr. Weitzel: Ninety-six? Ninety-six three hundred ($96,300) would be a three -bedroom. Chairman Dawkins: Ninety-six. A hundred thousand dollars ($100,000). Mr. Weitzel: Yes. Chairman Dawkins: With the subsidy. Mr. Weitzel: Yes. Board Member Plummer: Mr. Chairman, that's not what I have here. Oh, this is on phase three. Are you talking about what phase now? Mr. Weitzel: Phase three, the 24 units. Board Member Plummer: What I have here says that a two -bedroom, two bath, for the first floor is seventy-seven thousand ($77,000), the fourth floor is ninety thousand ($90,000); three - bedroom, two bath, the first floor is ninety -one -five ($91,500) and the fourth floor is one-o-five ($105,000). Now, that's the documents that were presented to me. Mr. Weitzel: Yes, Mr. Plummer. Look at the sheet right before that, is where I was reading from. The actual sales made, or the sheet before that that I was reading from... Board Member Plummer: Yes, sir, I understand that, but that wasn't the question of Commissioner Dawkins. OK. Hey... Mr. Weitzel: Oh, I'm sorry. I misunderstood. Chairman Dawkins: No, no. I asked you, with the subsidy, what will the units sell? Now, is page 1 the page that you're reading from, or is page 2 the page that J.L. is reading from? Mr. Weitzel: OK. As some people dropped out, we resold at the higher prices to cut down on the subsidy so... Chairman Dawkins: Look, look, look, we're going to get out of here. We're going to do this. But we need to have in the record what we're doing. OK? Board Member Plummer: It's right here. 10 April 29, 1996 W Chairman Dawkins: We need to be... These people out here, when they help us, they need to tell people in the community what they can buy the unit for. Board Member Plummer: No, no... Chairman Dawkins: You can either buy it for seventy, eighty or ninety. What can you buy a three -bedroom unit for, irregardless of what floor it's on? Mr. Weitzel: OK. If it's a new buyer that comes today, it is between ninety-one and a hundred and five, if it's a new buyer. Board Member Plummer: But the subsidy brings it up to this. Chairman Dawkins: No. Well, OK, see... See, you can't do that. How many... You got 24 units. How many of them will be new buyers and how many will be old buyers? Mr. Weitzel: We've got all but two sold. Chairman Dawkins: All right. So all of them are old buyers. Mr. Weitzel: All but two. Chairman Dawkins: So therefore, you only got two new buyers coming in. So 24 units will go at the old price. Mr. Weitzel: Correct. Chairman Dawkins: And only two unit are supposed to go at the new price. Mr. Weitzel: Yeah, 22 at the old price, two at the new price. Chairman Dawkins: Beg your pardon... That's right. So now, old... So 24 will go at what? Mr. Weitzel: The total sales price? I'm sorry that I'm... Mr. Bailey: Let me see can I... Chairman Dawkins: No, no, no. We're going to end this tonight, OK? Mr. Weitzel: Yeah, right. Thank you. Chairman Dawkins: But we need to know where we are headed. Mr. Weitzel: OK. Chairman Dawkins: The 24 units, the selling price will be what? The total selling price, walk out, walk in, move in, move up. Board Member Plummer: There it is right there. Mr. Weitzel: OK. It's... There's 24 different prices here, so I can read them all off to you. Mr. Bailey: It can't be answered that way, because each one of these units have been sold. And you have a list in your packet that tells you what each one will cost. It's not an average price. 11 April 29, 1996 Chairman Dawkins: Well, that's all I'm asking him. OK? Mr. Bailey: Well, it's in your package. We have it right here, every one listed. Vice Mayor Gort: One point nine nine point two-o. In other words, one million - which you wanted the figures - one million nine hundred and ninety nine thousand two hundred and twenty - two hundred and ninety ($1,999,290). Is that what you... total price. Chairman Dawkins: I know what I'm asking. And everybody else up here knows what they're asking. OK? So I'm finished with it. Make a motion. I mean, because I'm not getting where I'm trying to go. Mr. Weitzel: I'm sorry. I'll be glad to answer it, if I know exactly what to answer. Board Member Plummer: No. How much does the property total that we gave them? Chairman Dawkins: Everybody is happy. I am, too. OK? Make a motion. Board Member Plummer: Yeah, how much was the land worth? Board Member Gort: OK. Let me ask you a question. My understanding is, the total sales price for the 24 units, according to the information we have in front of us is one million nine hundred and ninety-nine thousand two hundred and ninety ($1,999,290). We're talking about two million dollars ($2,000,000). Mr. Weitzel: Correct. Board Member Gort: OK? Total construction cost. Board Member Plummer: No. Where the 24 units are going to go, how much was that land? Mr. Weitzel: One million nine hundred and sixty thousand five hundred and ten ($1,960,510). Commissioner Plummer: I'm trying to figure out... if you divide 24 into how much money. Board Member Gort: Then what is the need for the subsidy? Mr. Weitzel: Well, that's just hard cost. That's what we're paying the general contractor. There's more cost than that. I mean, there's plans, there's all types of other things. That's just the hard cost. Board Member Gort: Well, I think that's the question that's being asked here. Mr. Weitzel: OK. Board Member Gort: What's the total sales price? What you got here... What's your total cost? Mr. Weitzel: Total cost is twenty... two million three hundred sixty three thousand ten dollars ($2,363,010). Board Member Gort: OK. So that's three hundred difference. Mr. Weitzel: Yeah. 12 April 29, 1996 Board Member Plummer: Well, we're talking approximately sixteen thousand dollars ($16,000) per unit more. You see, let me just be honest with you. No one has sat up here longer than I have to push for more housing in all of the community, including Overtown. My fear is that if this sets a pattern... In this particular case, without the cost of the land, which was given free, you're giving sixteen thousand dollars ($16,000) more in this additional gift per unit. The day is rapidly going to come where we're not going to have any money for housing, period. Chairman Dawkins: You know, I wouldn't have a problem with that but... Board Member Plummer: That's my problem. Chairman Dawkins: I wouldn't have a problem with it, Board Member Plummer, if I did not sit here and see this Commission give a developer sixty-five thousand dollars ($65,000) to build on top of the Gusman Theater one -bedroom apartments. Sixty-five thousand dollars ($65,000) for a one -bedroom rental apartment. Board Member Plummer: Efficiency. Chairman Dawkins: And now, we're talking about a two -bedroom apartment for ninety thousand ($90,000), for the lack of a better word, with two baths. But because it's in Overtown and not downtown, it's wrong. Now either we... We have to be consistent. Now, I voted against the Gusman project, and it passed. So I would expect the motion... If nobody will make it, I will make a motion to pass this and anybody... Board Member Gort: I already made the motion. Board Member Plummer: Go. Board Member Gort: I'm ready to move it. Chairman Dawkins: Well, there's a motion. Is there a second? Board Member Gort: I'm ready to move for it and what I would like to have is the City have the audit, if there's a... to make sure there's no profit taken. Chairman Dawkins: No profit made. Board Member Gort: If there's a profit, it should go back to the City. Chairman Dawkins: OK. Is there a second? Vice Chairman Clark: You seconded it, right? Chairman Dawkins: Yes, sir, I second. Vice Chairman Clark: Any further discussion? Board Member Plummer: Call the roll. Vice Chairman Clark: Call the roll, Mr. Clerk. 13 April 29, 1996 The following motion was introduced by Board Member Gort, who moved its adoption: MOTION NO. CRA/SEOPW 96-2 A MOTION APPROVING FUNDING REQUEST IN THE AMOUNT OF $363,720 AS A GRANT TO THE DEVELOPER OF POINCIANA VILLAGE (NAMELY POINCIANA VILLAGE OF MIAMI, LTD.) FROM THE CRA TO COVER COST INCREASES FOR SAID PROJECT, SUBJECT TO AN AUDIT BEING CONDUCTED TO ENSURE THAT THIS IS NOT A PROFIT -MAKING VENTURE. Upon being seconded by Chairman Dawkins, the motion was passed and adopted by the following vote: AYES: Board Member Wifredo Gort Chairman Miller J. Dawkins Vice Chairman Stephen P. Clark NAYS: Board Member J.L. Plummer, Jr. ABSENT: Board Member Joe Carollo COMMENTS MADE DURING ROLL CALL: Board Member Plummer: For the reasons so stated, I have to vote no. COMMENTS MADE FOLLOWING ROLL CALL: Mr. Weitzel: Thank you. Chairman Dawkins: No. Get the houses going, and we'll thank you. Get them up. Mr. Weitzel: We will. Chairman Dawkins: OK. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4. DIRECT EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR TO MAKE STAFF AVAILABLE TO CALL BOARD MEMBERS AND ADDRESS QUESTIONS THAT BOARD MEMBERS MAY HAVE IN CONNECTION WITH STATUS OF FORECLOSURE OF ARENA TOWERS APARTMENTS. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Chairman Dawkins: OK. Item 6. Six, Mr. Bailey. Mr. Erdal Donmez Development Coordinator): Erdal Donmez again, from CRA (Community Redevelopment Agency). Foreclosure of the Arena Towers is still underway. It hasn't been completed. We contacted the local representative of G Capital, which is the first mortgage holder of the property, and they anticipate the foreclosure proceedings to be completed sometime in latter May. We have collected some information on the Arena Towers, you know, property, but at this point, there is no property condition report, there is no updated appraisals. But based on the net operating income of the property - and this is just a rough estimate - we believe that 14 April 29, 1996 the property is worth probably somewhere around eight to nine million dollars ($8,000,000 to $9,000,000). And the property has a million dollars ($1,000,000) net operating income. It is possible at this point for us to be able to acquire this, you know, property, but until we have the due diligence, we're not going to be able to give you a report on that. So,... Chairman Dawkins: OK. I would like, as the Chair, to ask any Board member who thinks they need information, that you make yourself available for them. Mr. Donmez: Yes, sir. Chairman Dawkins: ... since this is just an update, to fill in anything, so that we don't stay here all night trying to find out what we don't know. Mr. Donmez: Yes, sir. Chairman Dawkins: Is that agreeable with the Board members? Board Member Plummer: Fine with me. Chairman Dawkins: OK. Item 7. Board Member Plummer: But come see me, because I've got some questions. Chairman Dawkins: Yes, sir. And don't wait for him to call you, because he'll say we didn't call him. OK? Board Member Gort: Call us. Board Member Plummer: Reach out and touch someone. END OF DISCUSSION -- NO ACTION TAKEN ------------ --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5. DIRECT ADMINISTRATION (CPR DEPT.) TO FINALIZE FINANCIAL INFORMATION CONCERNING RIVERSIDE REVITALIZATION PLAN AND BRING IT BACK TO CRA BOARD -- PROVIDE BOARD WITH TOTAL PACKAGE OF INFORMATION PRIOR TO THE MEETING. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Chairman Dawkins: I'm going to ask you this question, and I'm going to ask everybody else. Has this been to the Overtown Advisory Board? Board Member Plummer: This one fooled you, Miller. Board Member Gort: He's been here too long. Board Member Plummer: Is there a reason, Mr. Bailey, we didn't get any of this in advance? Chairman Dawkins: Yeah. I'd say there was an Overtown... It's in Overtown, and the CRA (Community Redevelopment Agency) ought to do something, say yes or no. Board Member Plummer: No, I mean... I'm asking why we didn't get any information in our packet prior to the meeting. 15 April 29,1996 Chairman Dawkins: Me either. I'd like to know so, too, so defer it till the next meeting. Board Member Plummer: No, I'm not going to do that. Chairman Dawkins: Well, I... I have no problem with it. Mr. Erdal Donmez (Development Coordinator): We haven't seen the package until today. Board Member Plummer: So this is just for informational purposes? Mr. Donmez: Yes. Mr. Jose Casanova (Planner II): Yes, it is. It is very basic. Chairman Dawkins: OK. Are you going to explain what's on here? Mr. Casanova: Basically, I'm going to go over the fact sheet. I'm going... I have a slide presentation... Chairman Dawkins: But are you going to go through this? Mr. Casanova: I'm going to go very superficially over... Chairman Dawkins: So I should have it to know what you're covering superficially. Mr. Casanova: You're right. Chairman Dawkins: OK. Thank you. Mr. Casanova: My name is Jose Casanova. I am from the Department of Community Planning and Revitalization. Mr. Jack Luft, the Director of the Department, is unable to be here today because..'. iChairman Dawkins: Just a minute. Do you have extra copies for people in the audience so that they can superficially follow what you have? Because we have people asking. Mr. Casanova: I do. Chairman Dawkins: Sheila. Anybody else? If there's anybody else, raise your hand. One to Mr. Cruz. Mr. Casanova: Basically, the area is located... it's a triangular piece of land located between Northwest 5th Street on the north, the Miami River on the West, and the I-95 on the east. i Board Member Gort: You better turn those lights off. I Commissioner Plummer: No, the lights... The light switches are out there. Hello? The lights, i that's part of them. Board Member Gort: No, you're turning your TV cameras off. Mr. Casanova: Basically, this is a shot from the north, showing the triangular piece of land, the river, the expressway and Northwest 5th. Looking to the river edge, the Scottish Rite Temple 16 April 29, 1996 and Lummus Park. Another view of the Lummus Park Scottish Right Temple. We begin to see the City -owned property facing the Miami River, the East Coast Fisheries, and the City -owned property by I-95 Expressway. Another view from the City of Miami Riverside Center looking north. Here we can see the relationship between Jose Marti on the west side, Jose Marti Park on the east side of the river. Board Member Gort: It's kind of small. I can't see. Board Member Plummer: That's the old stomping ground. That's Lummus Park. Mr. Casanova: Some of the problems that we have in the areas are poor visual conditions, parking problems. But we have opportunities. We have the marinas in the area, seafood restaurants. We can see the river. Also, we have historic properties, apartment buildings built in the early century, the Scottish... Chairman Dawkins: Pardon me. May I ask a question? Isn't this project dead? Didn't the State of Florida turn it down? Mr. Casanova: No. Basically, what I'm giving is... Chairman Dawkins: No, no, no. Mr. Casanova: No... Chairman Dawkins: Is the project dead? Mr. Casanova: The project, in reference to the State grant, yes. Chairman Dawkins: Yeah. OK. So without the State grant, can you do the project? Mr. Casanova: We are looking for alternative solutions. Chairman Dawkins: OK. Well, L. Vice Chairman Clark: He didn't answer that question. Chairman Dawkins: No, sir, I did not. I asked him, did... Is the project dead without State funding? Mr. Casanova: Well, when we are talking "the project," we are talking the revitalization of the district. And the... I i Chairman Dawkins: Say what, now? j Mr. Casanova: We are talking the revitalization of the district. Chairman Dawkins: But over... But the CRA Board is already revitalizing the area. Now, I'm } going to ask you again - OK? - so we can get... cut through this. Mr. Casanova: OK. If you can... Chairman Dawkins: Without State funding, is the project dead? Mr. Casanova: At this time, what we are doing is... 17 April 29, 1996 A Chairman Dawkins: At this time... I'll ask you again. Mr. Casanova: No. I don't think that the project is dead at this... Chairman Dawkins: All right. Well, where will you get supplementary funding from to be sure it doesn't die? Mr. Casanova: This is what we are doing now. Chairman Dawkins: No, no, no. Now, where will you get money from? Mr. Casanova: We are looking for the feasibility of building the project. Chairman Dawkins: All right. I'm going to tell you like J.L. Plummer usually says. When you get your package together and your financing, come back. Mr. Casanova: OK. { Chairman Dawkins: OK. Thank you. Board Member Gort: I think what they're telling you is, put your work together, get the finances, then come back to us for approval. Chairman Dawkins: That's right. That's right. And we'll... That's right. Come back, OK? Mr. Casanova: OK. ! Chairman Dawkins: OK. Thank you. Mr. Irby McKnight: Mr. Chairman. 1 Chairman Dawkins: Yes, sir. Board Member Plummer: And I would appreciate that you get it to us in advance of the meeting, so we'll be able to study it and then ask intelligent questions at the meeting. i Chairman Dawkins: OK. Mr. McKnight, Chairman of the Overtown Advisory Board. Mr. McKnight: Irby McKnight, Chairman of the Overtown Advisory Board. Sir, what board j meeting - since I have not missed one and didn't ever leave early, nor came late - what board meeting did you bring this before us in? i Mr. Casanova: You were there at the building. You were not at the meeting. Mr. McKnight: I have not missed a meeting, sir. I have not... As a matter of fact, I am a volunteer in the room where the meeting is from eight o'clock in the morning, so I just stay there, so I be there twelve hours before the meeting starts, and I'm usually one of the last to leave. I have not missed a meeting at all. Mr. Casanova: I don't remember exactly the date, but I remember seeing you, that you were outside the meeting the day that I went and made the presentation. 1 Mr. McKnight I have not ever not been at my seat in the meeting. I make it a purpose to be in place at four o'clock, and don't leave until the agenda... till Mr. Benjamin sounds the gavel and 18 April 29, 1996 says the meeting is dismissed. I don't go to the bathroom, I don't go outside. I have a cell phone, if I need to make a call. I do not leave my space. Chairman Dawkins: Thank you. Thank you. Now, when you get it together, we'll bring it back. OK? Mr. Casanova: OK. Chairman Dawkins: Thank you. END OF DISCUSSION -- NO ACTION TAKEN .; --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6. CRA CHAIRMAN INDICATES THAT, IF NECESSARY, HE WILL HIRE A CONSULTANT IN FURTHERANCE OF JOSE ALEMAN'S OFFER CONCERNING HOUSING IN OVERTOWN AND CITY OF MIAMI, IN ORDER TO ENSURE COMPLETION. Chairman Dawkins: OK, 8, Mr. Aleman. And again, I will try to short-circuit this. Mr. Aleman was recommended to go see the Housing Department. I don't know why. But if the City Commission sent him to Housing Agency - I mean to Housing - I think that he should go there and then come back to us with whatever. Go right ahead, Mr.... Board Member Gort: Mr. Chairman, what happened is, we got this report of Federal housing that could be done by private sector, and not a not -for -profit corporation. My understanding is that had to go through the Legal Department and see if we could do it the way they were proposing of doing it. And that's why they were asked to go back to the Legal Department, so the Legal Department could give an opinion on it. At the same time, to our staff, there was no recommendation with staff, because there was no meeting with staff. I think that's what the Commission asked him to... Chairman Dawkins: OK. Mr. Bailey, do you think we can work with this gentleman to help him get whatever.., get through whatever we have to get through with the City, then? Because we do have space in Overtown for single-family homes, and every place else in Miami. Vice Chairman Clark: Lots of it. Mr. Herb Bailey (Executive Director): We will, you know, talk with anyone that comes in, especially this gentleman, if he's going to build houses in Overtown. We can only be advisors. The decision would be made by, you know... But we'll advise you, sir. Mr. Jose Aleman: Very good. Chairman Dawkins: OK. Hold it, Joe. Come to my office. I'll... If I have to hire consultants, since everybody seems to be... don't want to know how to help you, if I have to hire a consultant with the City... my budget, we'll get somebody to show you what you have to do to get this done. Thank you, sir. Mr. Aleman: Thank you. Chairman Dawkins: All right, sir. 19 April 29, 1996 END OF DISCUSSION -- NO ACTION TAKEN ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7. SCHEDULE NEXT CRA BOARD MEETING FOR MAY 20, 1996, AT GRAND CONDOMINIUM/DOUBLETREE HOTEL. Chairman Dawkins: The next CRA (Community Redevelopment Agency) meeting is Monday, May 20th, at the Grand Condominium. Will our gracious host have anything to say tonight? Board Member Plummer: Why didn't you bring goodies here, like you have over there? Mr. Fred Joseph: I came to look for some and I didn't see any. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8. (A) MARIANO CRUZ ADDRESSES THE CRA BOARD REGARDING HOUSING IN THE CITY AND EMPTY LOTS IN THE ALLAPATTAH AREA (B) CRA CHAIRMAN INFORMS REV. JOHN WHITE THAT HIS PROPOSED NEW HOPE / OVERTOWN HOUSING PROJECT MUST BE ADVERTISED AND SCHEDULED ON FUTURE CRA BOARD MEETING AGENDA. (C) CRA CHAIRMAN REQUESTS EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR TO PROVIDE BOARD MEMBERS WITH COPIES OF ALL AUDITS PERFORMED IN CONNECTION WITH CRA. (D) IRBY McKNIGHT REQUESTS CRA BOARD TO INVESTIGATE PROPOSED WIDENING OF STATE ROAD 112 TO 10 LANES -- DIRECT EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR TO MEET WITH CARR-SMITH (CONSULTANTS) CONCERNING WIDENING OF STATE ROAD 112 AND BRING BACK MAPS FOR EXPLANATION / CLARIFICATION / VISUALIZATION OF PROJECT. (E) IRBY McKNIGHT ADDRESSES THE CRA BOARD REGARDING LACK OF BICYCLE TRAILS AND HIKING TRAILS IN THE OVERTOWN, BROWNSVILLE, MODEL CITY, EDISON AND LITTLE HAITI SECTORS OF THE CITY (F) DISCUSSION CONCERNING SCHEDULING OF NOMINATIONS FOR DDA AND PERFORMING ARTS CENTER TRUST ON CRA AGENDA OF MAY 20, 1996. (G) CLARA WALLACE REQUESTS TO BE SCHEDULED ON NEXT SEOPW REDEVELOPMENT DISTRICT BOARD OF DIRECTORS MEETING CONCERNING DAY CARE FUNDING. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Chairman Dawkins: OK. Does anyone have anything to say? Mm-hmm, yes, sir. Mr. Mariano Cruz: The only thing I was going to talk about was in this problem of the housing, I mean building housing in the City of Miami. I don't know how come some of the good programs are not kept, like the one that they get about building in Allapattah. They built some houses, and they were sold, and people are taxpayers, and people are adding to those housing, and still having rental properties, being homeowners. And I came name a few, 1221 26th Street, 20 April 29, 1996 next to me; 7th Place and 34th Street, by Corpus Christi Church; 32 Street and IIth Avenue and 3200 Block, 11th. Maybe Mr. Aleman will do something like that instead because I don't know, send a lot of money to the Housing Department, and we saw that, and we haven't seen anything more. And the City have a lot of empty lots in Allapattah there, empty. The land bank... A lot of lots have been given to the City in lieu of paying the liens on those lots. So they have a big land bank there sitting, nothing, paying no taxes, and costing the City to clean those lots. So maybe Aleman or Joe Blow, or whatever can do something together fast, because we need to raise our tax base, because we're becoming a place where the only thing that people are building is institutions for people that live in Broward County and come to work here, and they leave to Broward County. They pay taxes in Broward County with the monies they make in Miami. Chairman Dawkins: You are correct. OK? Mr. Aleman has 125 sites identified in the City of Miami to build on. He has 18 prequalified buyers. I don't mean you have to go find 18 people to buy. He has 18 people who have been prequalified, if he gets the housing, the bank... they can move in. And for some reason, we aren't able to use this land bank that you're talking about. Mr. Cruz: No, but we need this, because we find a lot of places to use the monies from the Homeless Trust Fund and everything, everything there, that don't produce anything, no tax revenue for the City. It's costing us money. It's costing us money. The problems of other cities, we have to pay for it. We have to pay for it. Because I live in... I work in different City, not Biscayne Park, Miami Shores, North Miami, North Miami Beach. I don't see... They send those problems here to the City of Miami. Chairman Dawkins: OK. Thank you. Chairman Dawkins: Reverend White, under "Other." Reverend John White: Thank you, sir. Commissioner, we came tonight to... understanding that we had a request from Development for some money, and it was deferred because we had not been to the CRA (Community Redevelopment Agency) Board, and... Chairman Dawkins: Or the Overtown Advisory Board. You have to go to both before you can come here. Reverend White: We've been to the... This project is not a new project, Commissioner. This project is over four years old almost, so we've made presentations... Chairman Dawkins: OK. Well, I will schedule you for the next CRA meeting. OK? The reason I have to do that, Reverend White, is it must be noticed, it must be advertised so that individuals can come and speak and be heard. OK? So it will... Reverend White: Let me make sure we put it on the record now that this project is not a new project. This project has been in effect now almost four years. We... Chairman Dawkins: And the CRA has been in effect almost four years. Reverend White: OK. And... Chairman Dawkins: And you have not been to the CRA Board. OK? Reverend White: Right. And... But we have been before the Overtown Advisory Board. Warner Hutchinson, when he was project manager of this project, made the presentation. Bill 21 April 29, 1996 r Mosley has been to the Overtown Advisory Board. We would most definitely like to make sure it's on the next agenda. If you're going to put it on the 20th, we'd be more than happy. Chairman Dawkins: Now, I told you I was going to put it on. Reverend White: OK. All right. Chairman Dawkins: I have no reason to lie to you, Reverend White. OK? Reverend White: OK. All right. No problem. Chairman Dawkins: Now, I told you I'm going to put it on, and you keep telling up there you... telling me you want to make sure that it gets on. I'm going to put it on. OK? Reverend White: OK. I respect your position, and I trust that you're going to do that. OK? Chairman Dawkins: All right, sir. Reverend White: All right, then. Thank you. Chairman Dawkins: All right. Thank you. Chairman Dawkins: Anything else under "Other"? Board Member Plummer: Let me just ask a question for informational purposes. Chairman Dawkins: Go ahead, mm-hmm. Commissioner Plummer: In the Poinciana Village, the three hundred and sixty-three thousand dollars ($363,000), where is that money coming from? You know, where is this money? Mr. Herb Bailey (Executive Director): We... Chairman Dawkins: I'm going to get it from the Off -Street Parking, the money that Off -Street Parking owes us. I'll get it from there. Board Member Plummer: Well, no, I guess... I'm... What I'm really asking is... Chairman Dawkins: I'm serious. I'm serious. I'm serious. Board Member Plummer: No. I'm asking... I've never seen an audit for the CRA. I don't know what monies are available in the... Chairman Dawkins: You have... OK. The Manager has not presented the monies... OK. We have a budget. The Manager keeps jerking it around. OK? As soon as I get the budget, I can bring it to you and show it to you. Commissioner Plummer: OK. That... Well, a budget is a different thing than an audit. Much different. Chairman Dawkins: How can you have an audit when we... You know what, J.L.? How can we have an audit when we just got started? The CRA was just funded. The Manager is still jerking the money around, and it hasn't been given. And you want an audit. How can you get an audit? 22 April 29, 1996 44A'• Board Member Plummer: How do you give money when you don't know where it's coming from? Chairman Dawkins: You don't want an audit. You want a budget, and projections of where money is coming from. How are you going to audit something you haven't given? Board Member Plummer: I'll wait for the budget. Chairman Dawkins: OK, then. All right. OK. Go ahead, sir. Board Member Gort: Mr. Chairman, my understanding is - and please correct me if I'm wrong - is that we don't have an audit is because the CRA was run under the City before. It was never run independently. Chairman Dawkins: That's right. Board Member Gort: Now, we have become independent, so I think now this is our first year that we get to run it independently. Am I correct? Chairman Dawkins: And we have not... You're right, sir. And we have not had any money... Board Member Gort: So there should be an audit. The CRA audit should have been done along with the audit from the City audits. Am I correct in that? Mr. Bailey: We do get a certified audit every year for the Community Redevelopment Trust Fund, which is done by a certified public accountant and performed... and it's orchestrated under the Department of Finance. We've been audited every year. So... Board Member Plummer: Send me a copy of the last one, please. Mr. Bailey: Yes, we will do that. Board Member Plummer: Thank you. Chairman Dawkins: Send him a copy of all of them. That's my order. i Board Member Plummer: The last one... Chairman Dawkins: That's my order. Let him have all... Because see, you'll give him that one, and then he'll want the one right before that. OK? Chairman Dawkins: Any other... Go right ahead, sir. Mr. Irby McKnight: Irby McKnight, Overtown Advisory Board. The widening of State Road 112, as it affects Overtown, we would like for the CRA (Community Redevelopment Agency) to look into the ten lanes that is under discussion to come through Overtown with 112. Now, we learned from the east/west that the route we picked was not going to be used - "we," meaning the neighborhood - was not going to be used. However, there is plans to widen... Board Member Plummer: Excuse me, Irby. 23 April 29, 1996 W Mr. McKnight: Yes, sir. Board Member Plummer: Are you talking about 395? Mr. Herb Bailey (Executive Director): It's 395, I believe. Mr. McKnight: 395, 826... Chairman Dawkins: Two, two. No, 295. Mr. McKnight... and 112. Chairman Dawkins: No, no, 112 goes east and west. Mr. McKnight: I understand. Chairman Dawkins: You're talking about north and south. Mr. McKnight: I know. But it's also being widened. i f Chairman Dawkins: OK. May I... If the board members will concur, I will get the consultant that we have working on this to sit down with Mr. McKnight and explain and perhaps draw some maps or something to... so that... Board Member Plummer: I would like to see some more. Chairman Dawkins: And we'll bring it back at the next meeting. Mr. McKnight: I've been appointed to the Surface Transportation Committee with the County, and I have attended the first meeting, and it is being widened. We are discussing that. I Chairman Dawkins: Oh, yeah, 112 is being widened, but not... OK. Mr. McKnight: Yes. They have already took the measurements in Overtown to do this, and in Town Park Plaza, Town Park Village, these coop housing, from the way it looks, they'll lose five to ten percent of their buildings. So we want... Chairman Dawkins: Well, you see, this is why we need community input. OK? Nobody up here knew that - OK? - but we will find... get with it... I will get with the consultant that we have who works with the DOT (Florida Department of Transportation) and have him... And like J.L. Plummer said, draw us some maps at the next meeting where we can visualize it. Mr. McKnight: OK. One last point. In the week - as a board member, I read all the material - forty-five million dollars ($45,000,000) have been spent building bicycle paths and hiking trails throughout the County. Not a one of them was built in Overtown. Not a one of them was built in Brownsville, Model City Edison, Little Haiti, not a one of them. So we'd like for the CRA (Community Redevelopment Agency) to find out from the MPO (Metropolitan Planning Organization), who have this mass budget, and building all these bicycle trails everywhere, but where the children are being ran over by cars. Thank you. 24 April 29, 1996 Chairman Dawkins: Yes, sir, Mr. Joseph. Mr. Fred Joseph: Chair, would you kindly put on your agenda for the May 20th in regards to the nominating of DDA (Downtown Development Authority) and the Performing Arts. You have both coming up. DDA is, I think, is in June or July, when some of them expire. Performing Arts is still coming up before the City Commission on the 23rd, I think you moved it, because of conflict. So if you would put that on the agenda, we'd like to discuss them because I... Chairman Dawkins: Put it on the agenda for discussion. Mr. Joseph: ... because the County has forced you into an issue of... There's people on the nominating that don't live in the City, very good people, but they're not asked to be represented in the Omni area. So we'd like to discuss it, if you would. Chairman Dawkins: You want it on as a discussion item. Mr. Joseph: Yes, sir. Chairman Dawkins: All right, sir. Board Member Plummer: Commissioner Dawkins, just for your edification... Chairman Dawkins: Yes, sir. Board Member Plummer: ... the recommendation of the nominating committee was Mr. Ben Benjamin, Mr. Joseph, and Mr. Bill Beyer. Those were the three recommendations. The City can accept any one of the three or throw them out and ask for three more. Mr. Joseph: I think one of them was Kluger, Eleanor, Eleanor Kluger? Board Member Plummer: I didn't see that. They only gave three names that I was aware of. Mr. Joseph: That was one of the three. Board Member Plummer: Could very easily be. Mr. Joseph: Yeah. But the other... And that's where your problem is. They're throwing three names at you... not necessarily what you wanted, but, you know, they're the ones... But at the same point, they're saying whether these people live in that area or not, we're wanting them to represent that area. Board Member Gort: Excuse me. Mr. Joseph: Yes, sir. Board Member Gort: Mr. Chairman, you are of the recommended, right? Mr. Joseph: Yes. Vice Mayor Gort: OK. And we made a commitment before. Mr. Joseph: Well, I understand, but I'm just saying the others are trying to say like... And the DDA is coming up. We'd like to make sure that we get somebody in there in that area. We don't have an advisory board yet, as Overtown does. We're working on it. 25 April 29, 1996 f Chairman Dawkins: OK. Mr. Joseph: Thank you. Chairman Dawkins: All right, sir. Ms. Clara Wallace: My name is Clara Wallace, and I would like to know, can Town Park Village open a daycare, and I would like to know, can we be... Chairman Dawkins: Pull the mike to you, please, ma'am. Ms. Wallace: OK. I would like to know, can we be on the agenda for daycare, funds for daycare? Chairman Dawkins: At the next... Ms. Wallace: At the next. Chairman Dawkins: No, ma'am. At the following Overtown meeting, I will put you on. OK? Ms. Wallace: OK. Thank you. Chairman Dawkins: See, what we do is, we have one meeting for Overtown issues and one meeting for Omni issues. The next meeting is for Omni issues, and the following meeting is for Overtown. Ms. Wallace: OK. Chairman Dawkins: So we will put you on that one. Ms. Wallace. Thank you. Chairman Dawkins: Now, is that good enough? Ms. Wallace: It's good enough. Thank you. Chairman Dawkins: All right. Thank you. 26 April 29,1996 Chairman Dawkins: Anything else under "Other"? We are adjourned, and the Mayor will take over. THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS TO COME BEFORE THE BOARD, THE MEETING WAS ADJOURNED AT 7:48 P.M. Miller J. Dawkins Chairman ATTEST: Walter J. Foeman CITY CLERK Maria J. Argudin ASSISTANT CITY CLERK 27 April 29, 1996