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HomeMy WebLinkAboutSEOPW OMNI CRA 1995-10-16 MinutesN CITY OF MIAMI m* WEST SoUlIAEAS' AGENCY REDEVELOPU"OT s t*Ajt4uTE octobe16, 19' 'r 0" Of: tAEETjt4G Virr-LHELDorrsce OF OTIE cl-ry I CLF-RK an By THE HALL pFtEJj#An WA131ES J. C;q-y cvo*� ITEM NO. 1. 2. INDEX MINUTES OF SOUTHEAST OVERTOWN/PARK WEST COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING October 16, 1995 SUBJECT LEGISLATION PAGE NO. (A) PRESENTATION OF SOUTHEh,c DISCUSSION 1-11 OVERIOWN/PARK WEST REDEVELOPMENT 10/16/95 DISTRICT STAGE OF DEVELOPMENT. (B) REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS (RFQ) WILL BE ISSUED IN CONNECTION WITH .... - -.--.DEVELOPMENT OF SEOPW DISTRICT ...... _.... (C) MR. PIIMM M REQUESTED A REPORT IN CONNECTION WITH MIAMI-DADE CCKAUNITY COLLEGE' S PROPOSAL TO TURN C-49LUJS HOUSE INTO A FIRE STATION. (D) ADMINISTRATION TO INVESTIGATE PALM BEACH COUNTY'S COLLECTION SERVICES FOR CODE VIOLATION FINES. (A) DISCUSSION CONCERNING THE PROPOSED S M 95-5 WORLD TRADE CENTER PROJECT 10/16/95 (B) RENEWALS OF FINANCIAL CONSULTANT PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREELMNT WITH THE NATIONAL DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL. 11-16 MINUTES OF REGULAR MEETING OF THE SOUTHEAST OVERTOWN/PARK WEST COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY On the 16th day of October, 1995, the Southeast Overtown/Park West Community Redevelopment Agency (CRA), met at the Miami Arena, VIP Room, Miami, Florida, in regular session. The meeting was called to order at 7:05 p.m. by Chairman Miller J. Dawkins with the following members of the Board found to be present: ABSENT: ALSO PRESENT: Chairman Miller J. Dawkins Board Member J.L. Plummer, Jr. Board Member Wifredo Gort Vice Chairman Stephen P. Clark Board Member Victor De Yurre Herbert J. Bailey, CRA Executive Director Walter J. Foeman, City Clerk Maria J. Argudin, Assistant City Clerk Robert Friedman, Special Counsel An invocation was delivered by Chairman Dawkins who then led those present in a pledge of allegiance to the flag. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1. (A) PRESENTATION OF SOUTHEAST OVERTOWN/PARK WEST REDEVELOPMENT DISTRICT STAGE OF DEVELOPMENT. (B) REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS (RFQ) WILL BE ISSUED IN CONNECTION WITH DEVELOPMENT OF SEOPW DISTRICT. (C) MR. PLUMMER REQUESTED A REPORT IN CONNECTION WITH MIAMI-DADE COMMUNITY COLLEGE'S PROPOSAL TO TURN CAMILLUS HOUSE INTO A FIRE STATION. (D) ADMINISTRATION TO INVESTIGATE PALM BEACH COUNTY'S COLLECTION SERVICES FOR CODE VIOLATION FINES. Chairman Dawkins: OK. As soon as we get... As soon as we get a quorum, two more members, we will start. Does everyone have an agenda? OK. Thank you. We need one more person. Board Member Plummer: I doubt if the Mayor is going to be here. 1 October 16, 1995 ;0 Chairman Dawkins: Yeah, the Mayor is not going to be here. No, he told me. He sent me a memo. Board Member Plummer: No, he's not feeling good. Chairman Dawkins: OK. Well, he feels worse, then, because he sent this earlier, that he wouldn't be... Board Member Plummer: No, he's got a stomach virus. Chairman Dawkins: Yeah. Board Member Plummer: Is that me? Unidentified Speaker: No. Board Member Plummer: I'll sit over here and keep you company. Chairman Dawkins: Yeah, sit... That's right. Then we'll be close together. Board Member Plummer: Keep you company. Is Victor going to be here? _----.--_..----Chairman.Dawkins:-No. _. Board Member Plummer: Huh? Chairman Dawkins: Usually, he is. When the Mayor isn't here, he usually comes. Let's start with 3. Board Member Plummer: OK. And then we can short-cut that. Chairman Dawkins: Yeah, we can start with 3, and I'll wait for Mr. Gort before we hear from Mr. Fine. Go right ahead, somebody, anybody. Go right ahead. Mr. Herb Bailey (Executive Director): You had asked us about two months ago, Mr. Chairman, to come up with a redevelopment plan for the second increment, what are we going to do next, and what impact that's going to have on the Overtown Redevelopment Project. What you have in front of you is a smaller version of the map that you see here which depicts several projects that we're going to start immediately, and a couple of projects that we hope will get underway in a very short period of time. Board Member Plummer: Here he is. Mr. Bailey: And we'll skip around. Those that we think that we can start immediately are represented by the blue. Now, if you look on your page where it says proposed projects, 1996 and ' 98... NOTE FOR THE RECORD: Board Member Gort entered the meeting at approximately 7:06 p.m. Board Member Plummer: Waiting for you, they've started on number 3. Number 3. 2 October 16, 1995 Mr. Bailey: I'll wait for you, Commissioner, go ahead. Board Member Gort: I'm ready. My apologies, but I've been walking for half an hour now. Chairman Dawkins: OK. We understand. Board Member Gort: This is a big place. Chairman Dawkins: OK. OK, Mr. Commissioner. OK. What I did, Board Member, is we started with 3, and then we'll go back to 2. Mr. Bailey: All right. And Commissioner Gort, this is just a presentation to give you some indication of where we'll be going within the next year or two, in terms of what projects we're going to start. And if.., You have in front of you the same thing that's on the map, and those of you in the audience also have a copy of and a smaller version of what we consider to be proposed projects. And the ones that I'm going to talk about first would be the residential ones, which is represented in blue. The Commission gave John Cruz 90 days to respond in terms of developing blocks number 25 and 26, and they are the two blocks immediately behind the Lyric Theater. It is now October the 16th. His 90 days were up October the 11th. We will be going out for a Request for Qualifications to solicit bids and proposals - not to solicit bids, but to solicit proposals - sometime within the next 60 days, hopefully, and depending on the decision that's made here.. tonight,- at. our January meeting, that we. can.finally approve the type of Request for .. .. Qualifications that we're putting together and hope to solicit developers to respond to the Request for Qualifications sometime in February. Board Member Plummer: Can I make one point? Mr. Bailey: Yes, sir. Board Member Plummer: And I'll give you the report as a member of the Centennial Committee. There is a tremendous push for the Dade Junior College to go forth to the State, and the one project that they're emphasizing on is the Lyric Theater, to try to get State funding. So I just think that that was interesting for you to know. Chairman Dawkins: Let me make a point. Why is it we cannot develop the request for whatever and get it out in November? Why? Mr. Bailey: Well, Commissioner, we have it about 65 percent completed. We had discussed, you and I, and I guess you will take it up tonight, that we, perhaps, won't meet during the holidays. And we would like to have the time to put it together so we can make sure we have something that's credible on the street. Now, if you want to meet in November or December, which is a difficult time... Chairman Dawkins: No, I want it... I'll meet... If you'll have it ready in November, I will meet in November to get it out. You see, we need to get something out of the ground over there, Mr. Bailey. Board Member Plummer: That's right. We just cannot... Mr. Bailey: OK. Chairman Dawkins: I mean, we've been elected by the people, the people said, and the people in Overtown... We just... We got to get something out of the ground. 3 October 16, 1995 Mr. Bailey: OK. We'll have it ready for November then. Chairman Dawkins: All right. OK. Mr. Bailey: And the two blocks that we will do, what we call 25 and 26, they're the immediate two blocks behind the Lyric Theater where we're now parking cars, and we hope to have... Chairman Dawkins: What... What numbers would they be on there, 1, 2 or 3? Mr. Bailey: On this map, it would be number Al and A2. Chairman Dawkins: OK. Al... Mr. Bailey: No, I'm sorry, A2 and 2... both A2s. I'm sorry. A2. Chairman Dawkins: Both are the... Oh, well the four? OK. Those... Mr. Bailey: It's right... Chairman Dawkins: Those two. Mr._Bailey:._Those_,two. And they... The mall straddles -those two. That's where we just spent two million dollars ($2,000,000) for the new mall. Along with that, the County and the City are working together to include a recreational facility that we hope will get funded with private monies, as well as the County. Chairman Dawkins: All right, now, let's make... Let's make sure we're together. Mr. Bailey: All right. Chairman Dawkins: We will have the RFP (Request for Proposals), RFQ (Request for Qualifications) or whatever we're going to have ready for the November meeting for this Board to approve. Mr. Bailey: That is correct. Chairman Dawkins: And we will get it out to the Board members in time for them to review it or have any questions, so it just... approve it when we get here. Mr. Bailey: Well, you will have it in time to review it, yes. Chairman Dawkins: OK. Board Member Gort: Mr. Chairman. Chairman Dawkins: Go right ahead, Mr.... Board Member Gort: Do you see many differences from the original RFP that was put together and this new one? Mr. Bailey: We're suggesting that we go for a Request for Qualifications so we can get... get more people to respond at less expense. We will then go through those qualifications and select two people to make a full blown proposal. And we hope that you will select one, and in case number one fails, then number two can act as a backup. 4 October 16, 1995 Board Member Gort: Thank you. Mr. Bailey: We're trying to finish the balance of Poinciana Village, which has run into a financial problem. They have commitments for properties that prices are less than what it would cost to rebuild - I mean it would cost to build the new ones. We're trying to work out a new financial arrangement so they can finish the next 24. Contrary to popular opinion, the people who have signed up for commitments want the units. They will not relinquish those commitments, and it just so happens because the hurricane took place, the cost to build those units now exceeds the cost - the price that they were offered. So we have a way we... It's three hundred and forty-five thousand dollars ($345,000) short, and we're trying to make up that difference. The other project that we hope to get moving soon is the second phase of Saint John. If you recall, we did 35 rental units in Saint John up around 11th and 12th Street. The second phase of Saint John, which we're meeting on tomorrow morning, will be for sale units. We're trying to bring in more units for home ownership. We have come up with some ways now for which we think we can finance home ownership at a very comfortable way, utilizing all of the resources through Fannie Mae, those through FHA (Federal Housing Authority), and we are exploring the possibility of using affordable housing bonds and enter into a lease/purchase arrangement for those very difficult to finance tenants. Chairman Dawkins: OK. I need to say something here for the record. When we deal with Saint John, Father Barry's church, or any other CBO (community based organization), I want a _..........._ ..__ reverter clause in anything where if they don't dawhat was said, it will not go through. Now, when you and I were talking, you said, "I cannot tell the developer what to do once I give him the land." Well, I want him to understand before I give him the land what's expected by this Board. Mr. Bailey: You will have time to make input. Chairman Dawkins: Beg pardon? Mr. Bailey: You will have time to make that input. Chairman Dawkins: No, no, no. I want it understood. I don't... No, I'm putting the input now. Board Member Plummer: Write it in. Mr. Bailey: We don't have it ready yet, sir, but you'll have it. Chairman Dawkins: I'm saying, well, put it in. When you bring it to me, put it in. Have it already in. Mr. Bailey: Oh. Oh, fine. Chairman Dawkins: I don't want to... You and I are saying the same thing. Board Member Plummer: Brother Ben... Mr. Bailey: I'm saying... Yes, yes. When we get it here, when we bring it in, we will, you know... Chairman Dawkins: Mr. Benjamin. Mr. Donald Benjamin: Mr. Chairman... 5 October 16, 1995 Chairman Dawkins: Come up to the mike so everyone can hear you, please, Mr. Benjamin. Mr. Benjamin: I've a powerful enough voice. Mr. Chairman and members of the Board and others, as you... You may or may not know that Florida Department of Transportation is doing some planning studies with respect to the widening of 395 and some of the fantastic highways we have around here. And in some of the first drawings that we at Saint John's have seen, the impact of the widening of 395 is going to seriously affect the Saint John development. Now, I don't know if this has been brought to your attention, but if it has not been, I would like to bring it to your attention so that we know what we're doing here. This... This is a frightening prospect for us. Chairman Dawkins: Mm-hmm, OK. Well, Mr. Bailey is on top of it, and Mr. Bailey is studying it, and after he has, for the lack of a better word, has something intelligent and concrete, then he'll bring it to the Board, and we will act on it. OK? Mr. Benjamin: OK. Mr. Bailey: Yeah, yeah. Chairman Dawkins: But Mr. Bailey is... And they are looking at it. Before we go any further, may I, Mr. Bailey, please? Stand, Mr. Franklin, please. We're in this beautiful facility because ,_--...._.____.of_the..generosity_nLthe_.Arena and Mr. Franklin, sal'd.like for you to know that we appreciate your letting us use this facility tonight. Thank you. Mr. Robert Franklin: You're more than welcome, whenever you want to use it. Chairman Dawkins: Thanks, Rob. Go ahead, Mr. Bailey, please. Mr. Bailey: We have completed the - or almost completed the design of the extension of the 9th Street Mall, which will go all the way back to I-95. We've had some input from Mount Zion Baptist Church, which the mall will impact on. What you see now that stops at Northwest 2nd Avenue will go through Northwest 3rd Street to I-95 with the plaza at the end. We hope that with that expansion that we will be able to get more interest on the blocks between 2nd Avenue and 3rd Avenue. We still have the historic village as part of our design. We have not acquired all the property there, but we're in the process of acquiring what we can. But for immediate development within the next 24 months, you'll have the two blocks behind the Lyric Theater. We hope the Lyric Theater will be finished. We hope Poinciana Village will be finished within the next 24 months so that we can get more property onto the tax roll. Now, our real wish list, which is represented by item number 1 on your list, and is in the green, number 1 is the World Trade Center, which you will hear a presentation on later on from one of the proposers who wants to propose on site number 1. There are three sites at the World Trade Center, and we... The Arena - I'm sorry - the Freedom Tower area is site number 1, for which we are supporting. This is the one RFP that the County has put out. We, as the CRA (Community Redevelopment Agency), take a biased position, because we would like to have it in Park West. The other public and private joint venture development that we have some pro... we have some desire to do, and it's really a wish list, but we have begun to talk with developers. We have to talk with the property owners, and that is the... the site that's on 5th Street, Northwest 1st Avenue, which is owned by... one part of it is owned by the City, where they park cars. That was the old Jackie Bell site for the hotel. One part is owned by the Grand Central, which is FEC (Florida East Coast), and one part is owned by GE (General Electric). We look at that block and a quarter. We think we can put over a million square feet there. We have some developers who have come and talked with us about the site. They have expressed an interest to do a mixed use development there. We think that that site can generate, at... presently, with its present zoning, a 6 October 16, 1995 little over a million square feet, and we hope we can generate at least one point four million dollars ($1.4 million) worth of new tax increment dollars, if it comes to be. And this is the kind of project where it's going to take all our efforts. We're going to have to talk with GE, see if they want to be a partner with us. I've had some discussion with Roger Barreto and FEC as to whether or not they would be interested in throwing that property in as part of a development, and, of course, Off -Street Parking, I think we can have a little more affirmative conversation with in terms of permitting that property to be thrown in as part of the development. There have been proposals for an all -suite hotel, some retail, some condominium development on that particular site. If the FEC does not participate, then we still have one full City block that I think we can gain access to. I talked to General Electric about two years ago. They own NBC (National Broadcasting Center), and right now, they're parking cars there. But we need to have a major development, and we have to put forth some effort to do it, because, as I told you before, we're just about broke. Board Member Plummer: Can I ask a question? Mr. Bailey: Yeah. Board Member Plummer: Would you prepare a statement for this Board at the next meeting. I hear all of the time about Camillus House. Mr. Bailey: Yes. That's next. Board Member Plummer: And I have heard, and I'd like you to give -me factual information, that the Junior College has been trying to acquire the Fire Station Number 1, that in return, that they had asked that the new fire station to replace that one on 5th Street would go where the Camillus House is now, and the City would buy that property or the Junior College would buy that property and build the City a fire station, and then they could take the property there. Would you... I would love to find out what is reality. Is reality that... And I'm not going to put Marty on the spot, no. I wouldn't do that. But I'm saying is I've heard this has been going on for two years, that it goes back and forth, back and forth. There's no question the College needs the property. But I'd like to know, what are the facts? Are they true? Is there a possibility that that's the way we can get out of Camillus House? So if you will give me a paper at the next meeting, I'd love to know what are the facts. Mr. Bailey: I will, Mr. Plummer. In fact, we are having discussions with Camillus House now about a possible adjustment on the site. But I'll get back with you next Commission meeting - I mean next meeting. Chairman Dawkins: OK. Well, I have been arguing ever since I was at Miami -Dade. I am not giving that fire station to the College free. That's just one vote. Board Member Plummer: Well, I'm not saying giving it free. Chairman Dawkins: OK. I just... No, no, no. I'm just... Board Member Plummer: No, no. Chairman Dawkins: No. You asked for... You want him to bring you something back. I'm telling you where I am. Board Member Plummer: No, no, no. What I'm looking for is that they go build us a fire station where Camillus House is equal to what we have now, and I think that it can all work out very, very well. So I'm just... I'd like to know, what are the true facts? 7 October 16, 1995 Mr. Bailey: We'll research it and bring you a report.. Chairman Dawkins: OK. And where would you put Camillus House? I mean, bring that back, too. Board Member Plummer: Well, I know where I'd put it. Chairman Dawkins: Bring that back, too. Board Member Plummer: No, no, no. That's... That's a different ball game. Chairman Dawkins: Sheila... Well, hey, well, it's all one package. Mr. Bailey, will you yield to Ms. Anderson, please. Mr. Bailey: Ms. Anderson. Ms. Sheila Anderson: Thank you. Mr. Chairman, two points. One is that at a meeting of the Overtown/Park West Advisory Board, everyone present voted unanimously to support the concept of... of getting that fire station in a place where it would make a lot of sense to protect the surrounding neighborhood and Camillus House location puts it in close proximity to the Arena... Chairman Dawkins: Are you saying that where the fire station is now, it does... it's not in the best interest of the citizens of the City of Miami? Ms. Anderson: If you take in all the economic development aspects of it... Chairman Dawkins: No. Ms. Anderson: ... and the Junior College, yes. Chairman Dawkins: Beg pardon? Ms. Anderson: The jun... If you want to... If you want to take into consideration the aspect of economic development... Chairman Dawkins: No. I'm talking about saving lives and putting out fires. Ms. Anderson: It would be a much more centrally located north/south artery... Chairman Dawkins: Well, that's your opinion. Ms. Anderson: Yes. Chairman Dawkins: OK. That's your opinion. OK. No problem. Now, say... Well, say that. Ms. Anderson: OK. Chairman Dawkins: OK. Ms. Anderson: In my opinion... Chairman Dawkins: Go right ahead now. 8 October 16, 1995 Ms. Anderson: ... OK? Back to... The Overtown Advisory Board did vote in favor of what Mr. Plummer has just described in each of its steps. So to just to put that on the record. Also - and this may be out of place, and if it is, I'd like to bring it up later - it was my understanding when the CRA was formed that a citizen committee would also be formed to work along with the CRA so that all of these things that you are discussing in the way of projects would have community input from the beginning, and I have not heard that that committee has been formed, and if it has not, I would ask that you do so, and if it is still not filled, I'd like to volunteer my name. Chairman Dawkins: OK. Hold it. Why don't you go through the letter so... because we're trying to get out of here. Just... Would you just mention it, and then we... we'll go. Ms. Anderson: OK. The letter Commissioner Dawkins is referring to - Chairman Dawkins is referring to - is a summary of something Palm Beach County is doing with respect to code enforcement. They have hired a private firm who is responsible to the County for going through the process of all the code enforcement problems the County has in Palm Beach. It's my understanding that they are operating on a contingency arrangement, which means they are only paid if they are successful, and they're handling the legal work, as well as whatever else has to be done. It saves the County staff time. Those people are on staff that normally handle code enforcement could be diverted to other places in the Administration where they might be needed. You've got an incentive in the community for this to take place aggressively, and you've got people who do nothing else. And I think it's worth looking into, and I wrote to the Mayor. I ____..__._._...gave.him.the.name...of.the company in Palm Beach —There may be others who do it, as well. I have not had a response. I don't know if he's taken any steps, but I think it's something to look into. Chairman Dawkins: OK. Wait a minute. OK. We... OK. We thank you. Board Member Plummer: Sheila, let me give you one thing we've just changed in code enforcement, which I think is going to make a big difference. Where we used to have that they could abate the... What do you call it? Chairman Dawkins: The Nuisance Abatement Board? Board Member Plummer: ... abate the fines. Fines. Chairman Dawkins: Nuisance Abatement Board, mm-hmm. Board Member Plummer: Now, they cannot cut them back any more than 25 percent in the first month, 35 in the second month, 45 in the third month, and immediately in the third month, they start foreclosure. This idea that we got a hundred million dollars ($100,000,000) in fines is a big joke. So what I'm saying is, that's now in place. That is the new ordinance, it has given them clout, it has put teeth into it. The place that I'm having a problem is with the City Attorney's Office, that, in fact, I'm trying to get them to let outside counsel come in on an incentive fee, that if they want to take the case and try to collect these fines, that's fine. If they don't collect, they don't get anything. But right now, I have a stumbling block with the City Attorney. Chairman Dawkins: I think... OK, what... I think what Ms. Anderson was looking for is for one of us to say - give her a response to her letter. That's what she's looking for. Ms. Anderson: Well, what Ms. Anderson is looking for, if I may interrupt, Mr. Dawkins, is to have somebody investigate the success and the regulations in Palm Beach County, and see what they're doing there, and if it's better than what we've been doing here, see what we can do to at least adapt their procedures. And the City Attorney as a stumbling block, Mr. Plummer, is not 9 October 16, 1995 new, and maybe taking the decision -making and the actions away from the City Attorney's Office would get the job done, and remove the stumbling block. That's one way. Board Member Plummer: That's possible. Chairman Dawkins: M.S. Anderson, you did not say to me, when you came in the door, handed me the letter, and say you were angry because nobody responded to the letter? Ms. Anderson: Right. But I... Chairman Dawkins: Well, that's what you said. Now, you're saying you didn't say that. Ms. Anderson: Nobody has responded to the letter. Nobody... Chairman Dawkins: Yeah, and you said you were angry because nobody responded to the letter. And then when I say you want an answer, then you say J.L. Plummer is right, he's a good fellow, so all right. Thank you. Board Member Plummer: You believe it, you believe it. Chairman Dawkins: Yeah, I do. Of course I do. �_.......___.__. _. -Ms. Anderson:_.If it.makes you feel better, Mr. Dawkins. -.- Chairman Dawkins: No, no. Ms. Anderson: ... nobody responded to the letter. I think that's very rude. I think that's a bad impression to make by the City on the community, and what would be even better would be to have someone check in Palm Beach. Board Member Plummer: Can we start on the regular agenda? Chairman Dawkins: Hmm? Board Member Plummer: You want to start to the regular agenda? Chairman Dawkins: Yeah, soon as... Yeah, Mr. Bailey... Mr. Bailey: I'm going to make this very short, Commissioner. Chairman Dawkins: Mr. Bailey will be through in five minutes. Mr. Herb Bailey (Assistant City Manager): I'm going to be finished... Chairman Dawkins: In five minutes. Mr. Bailey: ..: maybe quicker than that. I just want to put on the record for the information of the audience that the City Commission, by resolution, established the Park West Civic Association in 1983 to be the community group that would deal with the Park West side of the Overtown Redevelopment Project, and they established more recently, by ordinance, designating the Overtown Advisory Board to be the civic body that will involve itself with the Overtown side. I will make a more detailed presentation to both of those groups after this Board has had some summary information about what we're going to present, but they will be presented to the designated community groups for their input. None of this is final. This is just something for 10 October 16, 1995 N them to react to. I would just like for you to take these with you and glance over them, take a look at them, study them if you will, and if at any point you have any questions, I'd be more than willing to come and discuss any activities on these sheets. But this is the way we proposed that we will go. And none of this is new. This is something that we... it's been approved for quite some time. Chairman Dawkins: OK. Thank you, Mr. Bailey. Chairman Dawkins: OK. We have 2, item 2 on the agenda. Board Member Plummer: If there's no objection... Board Member Gort: Move it. Board Member Plummer:... I'll second. Chairman Dawkins: All right. He has a right... It's a public meeting. Mr. Benjamin: Thank you, sir. Mr. Chairman and members of the CRA, I'm pleased to hear Mr. Bailey's reference to the inclusion of the Overtown Advisory Board in this process. I'm somewhat concerned, though, that as we look at this proposed project's drawing, there is nothing west of 95, which would indicate that there has been some consideration with respect to the plan _that. the_ Overtown..Advisory Board developed a couple.. -years ago, which we call the Community Redevelopment Plan and Action Program for the rest of Overtown. I know there are some concerns with respect to how that would be financed, but since we are talking about proposed ". projects, and we have a number of things identified on the other side, I am hopeful that at some point in time, we would begin to see things being identified west, or rather suggested west of 95 and north of 14th Street. Thank you. Chairman Dawkins: Thank you. Call the roll on approval of the minutes, Mr. Clerk. NOTE FOR THE RECORD: On a motion duly made by Board Member Gort ana sec on ed by Board Member Plummer, the minutes of the Southeast Overtown/Park West CRA and Omni CRA meeting of July 31, 1995 and the Omni CRA meeting of September 18, 1995 were approved by the Board. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2. (A) DISCUSSION CONCERNING THE PROPOSED WORLD TRADE CENTER PROJECT. (B) RENEWAL OF FINANCIAL CONSULTANT PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH THE NATIONAL DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Chairman Dawkins: OK. Now we will hear from Miami -Dade Community College's godfather, Marty Fine. Mr. Martin Fine: Thank you. 11 October 16, 1995 Chairman Dawkins: Thank you, Mr. Fine. Mr. Fine: Thank you. Chairman Dawkins: Take... OK, mm-hmm. Mr. Fine: Members of the Board, for the record, my name is Marty Fine, and I'm here as an attorney for a very exciting new project, which is a proposed joint venture by Dr. Lee Pierce and the Trammell Crow Company. With me is Pryse Elam, who, with your permission, will speak to you. Pryse is an executive vice president and managing director of Trammel Crow for South Florida. He's based in Boca, but has a lot of activity here. Some of you may know Ed Brandon, whose office is in the Grove, and they have recently sold their company to Trammell Crow. Trammell Crow Company is one of the largest development companies in the world. In terms of the World Trade Center experience, they have approximately ten million, repeat, ten million square feet of space in Dallas of this nature that is of World Trade Center variety, about three million in Brussels, and of course, they are developing all over America, and indeed, all over the world. The property in question that we're here before you today is... I could walk to the map, and all of you know it by heart. It's the property located between 5th and 6th Street, between Biscayne Boulevard and Northeast 2nd Avenue. In J.L. Plummer's grammar school days, that was the site of the Alcazar Hotel. Most of you may know it as the former site of the Parkley House. It is now vacant. It contains almost three acres of land, about a hundred and twenty thousand square feet. Dr. Pierce owns that property, and is working with the Trammell Crow Company to -respond--to- the RFP (Request for Proposals).which the County has advertised for a World Trade Center. In the RFP, the feasibility study indicates that the area that you all have jurisdiction in, commonly referred to in their report as the CR - pardon me - as the Community Redevelopment District area is the preferred area. There are other bidders who may submit bids, but we are here to tell you that we are a serious - or this entity is a very serious competitor. We expect to put a bid in. The bids are due January 19th. The County has been working on this for the better part of a year. I want to tell you, without trying to polish his apple, that Herb Bailey has been absolutely wonderful, working with us, sharing information with us, giving us indications of different support opportunities. Just to give you an idea, the County's RFP indicates that there will be a public subsidy needed of approximately forty million dollars ($40,000,000). That would be... The total cost of this project is estimated by the County to be a hundred and five million dollars ($105,000,000). And of course, the developer will arrange for the financing of the rest of it. Hopefully, tax increment financing could be utilized. There are other sources of financing which the City and County will hopefully be willing to utilize. And one of the things that I mentioned to Mr. Elam as we were visiting before coming over here is I think all of you know us quite well. I just think it's good manners to come to a group that you are going to look to for some support, and advice, and guidance and say, here's what we're planning. This is what we're thinking about. This is what we're dreaming about. By the way, to the best of my knowledge, there has not been a new project of any significance built within the DDA (Downtown Development Authority) boundaries or on Brickell for about ten years. It's about time that some of them came to reality. I might just say that I just was doodling the other day and added up the cost of the Performing Arts Center, the proposed Maritime Park, perhaps the new Arena in Downtown Miami, and this new World Trade Center. It comes to six hundred and fifty million dollars ($650,000,000). So there's an awful lot that's on the boards. But with your permission, if I may, I'd like to ask Mr. Elam if he would just take a moment and tell you about the Crow Company, and we're here to answer any questions. But basically, we're here to say we'd like to be an active partner with the CRA in developing this property. We'd like to thank you for having your staff, Herb Bailey and others, work with us. We've been in touch with Clark Cook at the Parking Authority, because there's a need for a thousand car parking garage on that site, and with your permission, Mr. Chairman, if it's all right, may I introduce Pryse Elam to you. 12 October 16, 1995 Chairman Dawkins: Thank you, Mr. Fine. Mr. Fine: Pryse. Mr. Pryse Elam: Thank you, Marty. Mr. Chairman, members of the Board, on behalf of Trammell Crow Company, we are pleased and excited to have the opportunity to participate in the World Trade Center facility competition in Miami. My company has been involved in nearly two dozen world trade centers all over the world, and we are particularly excited about the prospects a World Trade Center has for Miami, following on the heels of the Summit of the Americas, and also, we hope that it will tie in with the centennial celebration we're about to undergo. We look forward to working with Herb and with each of you, and look forward to your support. And if there is ever anything that you can call upon us to do to assist, we'd be excited and pleased to help you. Thank you very much. Board Member Plummer: Mr. Chairman, what part do we or don't we play in this development? Chairman Dawkins: Mr. Bailey. Mr. Herb Bailey (Executive Director): Mr. Plummer, it's in the tax increment district, and our district starts at Northwest 5th all the way to 395, the Freedom Tower area, which is site number 1 that's in the proposal. It's the one that we're supporting. And we have a variety of incentives that we think we can offer that the other two sites can't. As Mr. Fine mentioned, we have had ._.._-...._....—_._some_.discussion._ahout_ methods on how we could put-- our resources in. For instance, tax increment financing. We've talked with Bryan on some creative ways in which money can be advanced to the CRA in which we can bank the land, and then issue bonds to the proposer. This is funny money, as he calls it. And hopefully, out of the increment that comes from the development, we can retire the bonds. We have, of course, the basic things, the Section 108 monies that are available, and we have the CD (Community Development) float, which can subsidize construction costs, and we're open to just about any kind of creative way in which we can make this happen. We want it to happen at that site. Board Member Plummer: Mr. Bailey, Mr. Bailey. Mr. Bailey: Yes. Board Member Plummer: Why don't you send us a letter or a paper telling us exactly what part we can play in this... Mr. Bailey: OK. Board Member Plummer: ... and what part we can't. And I think then we'll know what... what road we want to travel down. Chairman Dawkins: OK. Marty, I'd like to say that I am happy to see you getting involved. When I first came on the Commission, you were one of the ones who were, for the lack of a better word, wanted to get it done. And for a number of years, you and Norman Braman decided to sit it out. And now, I see you've decided to come back and pick up the mantle and try again, and I appreciate that. Board Member Plummer: Well, he got bored. He got bored. Mr. Fine: I... I... Miller, I... Hey, I'm flattered you're putting me in the same company as Norman Braman, who's a good friend of mine. We have different financial arrangements, so... But I must tell you, I don't remember sitting it out. 13 October 16, 1995 Mr. Gort: And Marty's are better than Braman. Board Member Plummer: Yeah. He gets a Cadillac and he pays for it. Mr. Fine: I'm right here with you trying to help do the things that you want to do. So I feel good about what you said, but I haven't been sitting anything out. Chairman Dawkins: OK. Well, I would like to say that with the Performing Arts Theater, with the proposed Arena, with the proposed Port, and if we get the performing... this sector, then we start it on up Biscayne Boulevard, and then Sheila and those who want to help us develop the Omni area, then we will begin to develop Biscayne Boulevard, and we'll just go north on. So I'm happy to see you. Thank you. Mr. Fine: Can I just make one general comment, in response, perhaps, to your remarks, and also to J.L.'s? I look at Willy Gort and remember when he was the executive director of the Downtown Business Authority, and how far he's come and what he's doing, and I'm really addressing my remarks to you, Commissioner Gort, in your capacity as not only Commissioner, but Chair of the DDA .(Downtown Development Authority). I really believe that it would be appropriate, after you receive Herb's memo, to visit with some of your colleagues on the County Commission. This is a County RFP, but in my view, in our view, a great deal of what it needs to make it happen is going to have to come from the City. So... Board Member Plummer: That's always the case. Mr. Fine: I know that. And I'm saying this as delicately and diplomatically as I can. You notice that those other four projects are all in the City, within close proximity to one another, but generally speaking, the County's there. So I think it would be important not to act like we're two separate entities, but really visit with them, and talk to them, and help make this happen. Mr. Gort, there's a bidders' conference on October 30th at the port. I don't know what time, but if your schedule permitted it, it would be really great if you and Miller, in particular, as Chairs here, could attend that kind of meeting. My guess is no one's even told you about it, from the County point of view. I know that Mr. Bailey is going to be there. So we're here to thank you for permitting us to share our dreams with you, and answer any questions you may have. Chairman Dawkins: OK. No, thank you, Marty. And what I'm going to do, with J.L.'s approval, I'm going to ask Board Member Gort if he will be the point man on this with Mr. Bailey, and when it comes back, it will come back joint, with a joint recommendation from Mr. Bailey and Board Member Gort, if that's all right with you, J.L. Board Member Plummer: Fine. Chairman Dawkins: Will you accept that, Willy? Board Member Gort: Yeah. Mr. Chairman, I'd like to state that we were invited, both Herb Bailey and myself. We were part of the RFP in putting it together. The City was invited through myself as Chairperson of the DDA, and as City Commissioners, we did participate in the... putting the RFP together. So we have been part of that. Chairman Dawkins: And we do have Ms. Jackson here from the other office, who works with us. Stand, darling. We're glad to see you. We'd like for you to have some input into it also. OK? All right. Mr. Fine: Thanks very much for your courtesy. 14 October 16, 1995 Chairman Dawkins: OK. Thank you. We've got one item here, renewal of the professional services agreement with National Development Council. Explain that, Mr. Bailey, so we can go home. Mr. Bailey: All right. Board Member Plummer: You won't hurt my feelings. Mr. Bailey: It was distributed a week ago to each one of you. The National Development Council has been our financial consultant for the past few years and has been very instrumental in producing a variety of things that we, perhaps, couldn't do on our own, because of their connections in Washington and other places. They only work with government. They work for the CRA, and they started out with the Department of Development, but we have been using them anywhere in the City where the City needs to have some input... Board Member Plummer: Mr. Bailey, do you recommend it? Mr. Bailey: Yes, very much. Board Member Plummer: I move it. Board Member Gort: Second. Chairman Dawkins: Call the roll. The following motion was introduced by Board Member Plummer, who moved its adoption: SEOPW/CRA M 95-5 A MOTION APPROVING THE RENEWAL OF THE FINANCIAL CONSULTANT PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH THE NATIONAL DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL. Upon being seconded by Board Member Gort, the motion was passed and adopted by the following vote: AYES: Board Member Wifredo Gort Board Member J.L. Plummer, Jr. Chairman Miller J. Dawkins NAYS: None. ABSENT: Board Member Victor De Yurre Vice Chairman Stephen P. Clark Chairman Dawkins: Any other business? Board Member Gort: Move to adjourn. Chairman Dawkins: So be it. 15 October 16, 1995 Board Member Plummer: Always in order. THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS TO COME BEFORE THE BOARD, THE MEETING WAS ADJOURNED AT 7:43 P.M. ATTEST: Walter Foeman CITY CLERK Maria Josephine Argudin ASSISTANT CITY CLERK Miller J. Dawkins Chairman (SEAL) 16 October 16, 1995