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HomeMy WebLinkAboutSEOPW OMNI CRA 1995-07-31 Minutesi CITY OF MIAMI LO AND PAM l �.mutsv REDEV •'t,*�-[ AGENCi CIF MEE`t1N —HELL F -rHE C'TY CLE"K D BY THE'O HA jClE � E JUL, 31, 1995 pREpARCI"f ViALISR J. BAH lacy c CITY OF MIAMI, FLORIDA INTER -OFFICE MEMORANDUM TO HONORABLE MILLER DAWKINS, CHAIRPERSO�@ArE : September 26,1995 FILE AND BOARD MEMBERS OF THE COM UNITY REDEV OPMEN AGENCY SUBJECT : Revised Minutes of the July 31, 1995 CRA Meeting FROM alter J. F n REFERENCES: City Clerk ENCLOSURES: (7/31/95 minutes) We are forwarding to you a revised set of the Community Redevelopment Agency (CRA) minutes of the meeting of July 31, 1995 which approval was deferred at the OMNI/CRA meeting of September 18, 1995. If you have any questions regarding same, please do not hesitate to call this office. WJF:sI cc: Herb Bailey, Executive Director Robert J. Friedman, Esq. INDEX MINUTES OF COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING July 31, 1995 ITEM SUBJECT LEGISLATION PAGE NO. NO. 1. CHAIRMAN DAWKINS COMMENTS ON NEED TO DISCUSSION 2 INCREASE TAX BASE IN CRA DISTRICT. 7/31/95 2. APPROVE SEOPW/CRA INTERLDCAL AGREEMENT. S M 95-2 2-5 7/31/95 3. DISCUSS AND DEFER CONSIDERATION OF THE DISCUSSION 5-6 CMI AND SEOPW CRA BUDGET. 7/31/95 4. REQUEST APPEARANCE BY SHALIEY JONES RE DISCUSSION 6-9 FANNIE MAE LOW INTEREST LOANS AVAILABLE 7/31/95 FOR DEVELOPMENT OF OVERTOWN -- INVITE DEVELOPERS TO ATTEND PRESENTATION. 5. DISCUSS MARKETING STRATEGY FOR OVERTOWN DISCUSSION 9-12 AREA, PROPOSED INTERNATIONAL TRADE 7/31/95 BUILDING AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING PLANS. 6. (A) DISCUSS DRUG SALES IN 9TH STREET S M 95-3 12-20 (OVERTOWN AREA) MAIL. 7/31/95 (B) DISCUSS PROBLEMS RE UNSAFE, AIN%NDONED BUILDINGS -- WILL TAKE INPUT FROM OVERTOWN ADVISORY BOARD AND ONNI TASK FORCE. (C) CRA MEETINGS TO BE HELD ON LOCATION (OVERTOWN AND OMNI AREAS). (D) BUILDING AT 240 N.W. 11 STREET EVICTION PROBLEM -- ST. AGNES RAINBOW VILLAGE, NEW HORIZONS COMMUNITY MENTAL HEALTH, FATHER BARRY, AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECT. 7. (A) DISCUSS REVENUES OF FUNDS FOR DISCUSSION 21-28 CRA DISTRICTS. 7/31/95 (B) RECOGNIZE HOLLAND AND KNIGHT AS BOND COUNSEL FOR CRA -- BOARD MEMBER PLUMMER QUESTIONS WAIVER OF BIDDING PROCEDURES AND SELECTION OF A NON -LOCAL BOND ATTORNEY. 8. APPROVE CMNI/CRA INTERLOCAL 0 M 95-6 29-37 AGREEMENT -- SCHEDULE NEXT CMI/CRA 7/31/95 MEETING FOR SEPTEKBER 18 -- THIRD SAY OF EACH MONTH AT 7 P.M. SET DATE FOR FRURE MEETINGS -- ALTERNATING THE TWO DISTRICTS. 9. DISCUSS PROPOSED RELOCATION OF POLICE DISCUSSION 37-38 MINI —STATION TO DOWNTOWN AREA. 7/31/95 .10. SEEK A SMALL INDEPENDENT AUDITING FIRM 0 M 95-7 39-40 TO PERFORM AN AUDIT OF CRA. 7/31/95 MINUTES OF SPECIAL MEETING OF THE COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY On the 31st day of July, 1995, the Community Redevelopment Agency (CRA) met at the City Hall, 3500 Pan American Drive, Miami, Florida, for a special meeting. The meeting was called to order at 9:07 a.m. by Chairman Miller J. Dawkins with the following members of the Board found to be present: Chairman Miller J. Dawkins Vice Chairman Stephen P. Clark. is �__.,,_..,.,;:..,.:_....:.,:: ::::•_.:.,•_::.,.. Board Member Wjfre Gort ALSO PRESENT: 1 Herbert J. Bailey, CRA Executive Director Walter J. Foeman, City Clerk Maria J. Argudin, Assistant City Clerk ABSENT: Board Member Victor De Yurre Board Member J.L. Plummer, Jr. Linda Kearson, Assistant City Attorney An invocation was delivered by Chairman Dawkins who then led those present in a pledge of allegiance to the flag. NOTE FOR THE RECORD: The first portion of this meeting concerns matters pertinent only to the Southeast Overtown/Park West Community Redevelopment Agency (SEOPW/CRA). See page 34 for adjournement of the SEOPW/CRA. The OMNI/CRA meeting convened on page 35. July 31, 19.95 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1. CHAIRMAN DAWKINS COMMENTS ON NEED TO INCREASE TAX BASE IN CRA DISTRICT. Chairman Dawkins: You know, it's amazing. We can't seem to get synchronized with our meetings, but we will. We gave ourselves 120 days to complete the administrative setup of the CRA (Community Redevelopment Agency), which meant that we would secure office space and finalize the budget. We also began to identify immediately several projects that we could get started on. It's of the utmost... that we do something quietly and quickly. We have to do something in the Omni area, and in the Overtown/Park West area, in that the Tax Increment District is down, and the only way you could bring it up is put buildings there that will pay taxes. So I was hoping that, my fellow board members, that when we do meet again in the Omni, we will have two projects to offer, for us to OK that will go up. We are still having difficulty with the trust fund budget, but we'll be able to work that out. There's a deficit of two hundred thousand dollars ($200,000) annually, and revenues are nine hundred thousand ($900,000). Therefore, that's why we must get some projects on the tax rolls to help meet this deficit. The Citadel is scheduled to be completed within the next three months. We're hoping it will be on the '95 tax rolls. I have spoken with individuals who are familiar with what we are doing, and authorized the Administration to prepare two professional services agreements, which they have indicated, and that we needed to get started. The two agreements are in the package, and we will be discussing them later. That was a prepared statement I had. NOTE FOR THE RECORD: On a motion duly made by Vice Chairman Clark and ded by Board Member Gort, the minutes of the OMNI/CRA meetings of June 15 and June 29, 1995 were approved by the Board. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2. APPROVE SEOPW/CRA INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT. Chairman Dawkins: OK. The next item on the agenda is office space. The professional services agreement, you have them. Are there any questions about them, or any reason, anything we need to know? OK, hearing none. Then the Omni interlocal agreement, you'll find that in here. Do we... These have to be approved and sent to the County. Two of them, one for the Omni and one for the Overtown. We can... NOTE FOR THE RECORD: Ms. Kearson entered the meeting at 9:12 a.m. Vice Chairman Clark: Have these all been checked by the Law Department? Chairman Dawkins: Yes, sir. Yes, sir. 2 July 31, 1995 All Mr. Herb Bailey (Executive Director): We just have the interlocal agreement for the Omni. That has to be sent to the County Commission, and when it's approved here, we will transmit it to the County for their review and board hearing. Board Member Gort: Mr. Chairman. Chairman Dawkins: Yes, sir. Board Member Gort: The question that I have is I haven't been able to review the old one. What variances do we have for the new ones, compared with the old ones? Mr. Bailey: I'm sorry? Board Member Gort: What variances do we have for the new ones? Mr. Bailey: The interlocal agreement for Omni is structured... Based on the meeting that we had on June 29th, the motion was passed that we permit the County to use sufficient amount of money to bond out ten million dollars ($10,000,000), and the balance of the money was to be used for the Omni. Also, that motion said that until the County passes a bond, the tax increment monies would be used for improvements in the Omni area. Those plans have to be worked out. A plan amendment has to be made, and we have to meet with the community to discuss how we use those dollars. Board Member Gort: My question is that, is this incorporated into this? Mr. Bailey: It's in the interlocal agreement, yes. Board Member Gort: It's in this one now, in this one here. Mr. Bailey: In this one, yeah. Board Member Gort: That's the only change from the old one. Mr. Bailey: That's the only change from the old one. Of course, we changed the word to "CRA" instead of "City of Miami." That's two changes. Chairman Dawkins: Madam City Attorney, the Mayor asked if this had been approved, this interlocal, by the Law Department. Could you answer affirmatively? Ms. Linda Kearson (Assistant City Attorney): Yes, sir, we have reviewed and approved that. Chairman Dawkins: OK. Good. Vice Chairman Clark: There was a motion made last time that the contribution to the Omni area was ten million dollars ($10,000,000), right? Is that right? Mr. Bailey: That is correct. Vice Chairman Clark: And whatever is left over... Chairman Dawkins: Goes back to the CRA. Vice Chairman Clark: CRA. 3 July 31, 1995 e Chairman Dawkins: Yes, sir. Vice Chairman Clark: Very good. Chairman Dawkins: OK. Is there a motion? Board Member Gort: Move it. Vice Chairman Clark: Second. Chairman Dawkins: All right. OK, the budget. Mr. Bailey, you want to go through the budget for us so that we... Mr. Herb Bailey (Assistant City Manager): All right. What we've done is we've made a budget to finish the balance of this year, which is attached, and we've also given the budget for '95/'96. Our budget for this three... Board Member Gort: I need a copy of the budget. I don't have it. Maybe you don't have one either. Vice Chairman Clark: I need a copy of it. Is there a copy of it? Mr. Bailey: It's in your packet. Chairman Dawkins: OK, hold it. Board Member Gort: This package? Mr. Bailey: Yes. Chairman Dawkins: OK. Pardon me. The Clerk wants to call the roll on the last motion. Vice Chairman Clark: The interlocal agreement? Chairman Dawkins: Yes, on the interlocal agreement. Call the roll, sir. The following motion was introduced by Board Member Gort, who moved its adoption: SEOPW/CRA M 95-2 A MOTION APPROVING .THE SEOPW/CRA INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT; FURTHER DIRECTING THE ADMINISTRATION TO TRANSMIT SAME TO METROPOLITAN DADE COUNTY FOR ITS REVIEW AND APPROVAL. Upon being seconded by Vice Chairman Clark, the motion was passed and adopted by the following vote: 4 July 31, 1995 I (t r AYES: Board Member Wifredo Gort Vice Chairman Stephen P. Clark Chairman Miller J. Dawkins NAYS: None. ABSENT: Board Member Victor De Yurre Board Member J.L. Plummer, Jr. NOTE FOR THE RECORD: Pursuant to a later clarificatory statement by Assistant ty Attorney Linda Kearson (see page 16), the first portion of this meeting concerns matters pertinent only to the Southeast Overtown/Park West Community Redevelopment Agency (SEOPW/CRA). See page 34 for adjournment of the SEOPW/CRA. The OMNI/CRA meeting convened on page 35. The OMNI/CRA interlocal agreement was approved by OMNI/CRA Motion 95-6 on page 40. i ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3. DISCUSS AND DEFER CONSIDERATION OF THE OMNI AND SEOPW CRA BUDGET. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Chairman Dawkins: Go right ahead, Mr. Bailey. Commissioner De Yurre also felt that the meeting was starting at 9:30, so I apologize for whatever. Board Member Gort: We don't have a copy of the budget in our package. Mr. Herb Bailey (Executive Director): I thought it was in there. Chairman Dawkins: You did not give us a copy of the budget in this package? Mr. Bailey: It should be in the packet, but... Chairman Dawkins: It should be. I mean... OK. Give Commissioner Gort a copy of the budget. Board Member Gort: The Mayor doesn't have a copy either. Chairman Dawkins: Well, if they do not have a copy, we may have to carry this over to the next meeting, because I wouldn't want anybody to have to try to digest this budget without having had it in their possession. Mr. Bailey: I thought it was in the packet. I'm sorry if it's not. But it's the same budget that the Commission approved under resolution, but we've... We're making copies now. The Commission passed a resolution that set up the CRA and the budget that would be given to the CRA, and we've only used that particular budget. What we've done is broken it down for the j balance of this year and for next year. Chairman Dawkins: That's good, but I still say I'll accept the motion to carry this over until people have had it in their hands to digest it... 5 July 31, 1995 Vice Chairman Clark: So move, Chairman Dawkins:... and at least know what they're doing. Board Member Gort: Second. Chairman Dawkins: OK. That's to be carried over till the next meeting, the budget. THEREUPON, ON MOTION DULY MADE BY VICE CHAIRMAN CLARK AND SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER GORT, ITEM 5 WAS DEFERRED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE: AYES: NAYS: ABSENT: Board Member Wifredo Gort Vice Chairman Stephen P. Clark Chairman Miller J. Dawkins None. Board Member Victor De Yurre Board Member J.L. Plummer, Jr. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4. REQUEST APPEARANCE BY SHALLEY JONES RE FANNIE MAE LOW INTEREST LOANS AVAILABLE FOR DEVELOPMENT OF OVERTOWN -- INVITE DEVELOPERS TO ATTEND PRESENTATION. Chairman Dawkins: Item 6, Mr. Bailey. Mr. Herb Bailey (Executive Director): We have, in the charge to do something in sort of a fast way in Overtown, designated two sites that we think we can get under development right away. At the last Commission meeting, we extended John Cruz' development order for 90 days on the two sites in Overtown between 8th and 10th Street. Those two sites are on the north and south side of the new mall that the County and the City have just completed. They represent two City blocks. We think that we can get home ownership, residential housing on those blocks within the next 24 months. And because of that, we have, in order to expedite the process, we are going to develop - we would like to develop the RFQ (Request for Qualifications) process and interview process for an RFP (Request for Proposals) so that we can select developers who can make a commitment to build those units. We will have for the next meeting a sample copy of an RFQ. It simply is a profile for developers who give us a statement of their capabilities, financial capabilities, their development experience, and some indication as to how they would like to proceed on developing the townhouses for these two blocks. We have to, at least within the next 24 months, get some development started in Overtown. Chairman Dawkins: No, I would like to rephrase that and say we must get something done in the next 24 months. We cannot start something in 24 months from now. I mean, I understand what you're saying, but I'm saying this Board must get something done within 24 months. Mr. Bailey: We have to have buildings up and ready to go on the tax roll. T July 31, 1995 a Chairman Dawkins: That's right. That's right. Mr. Bailey: And the reason for that, and as I said, I apologize again for you not having the budget, but in the Tax Increment Trust Fund Budget, you can see that we are sufficiently short in terms of having an amount of money to meet our obligations. Commissioner indicated we are two hundred thousand ($200,000) short. However, if some other projections that we have indicated in that Budget do not come true, we're probably three or four hundred thousand dollars ($300,000 or $400,000) short. And this all came about because of the removal of the Courthouse Center Building, which cost us three hundred and ten thousand ($310,000). So we are trying to expedite the development process. The RFQ, we think, is the most feasible way to get something moving faster, to have this Board talk to the developers, and we can make a decision. Vice Chairman Clark: On this item, Mr. Chairman, I think it's of note at this time, last Friday, Mr. Bailey and myself attended a meeting with Fannie Mae (Federal National Mortgage Association). And Fannie Mae is extremely interested in helping us out, especially in affordable housing in the Omni area. And the prices they have, man, I'm telling you, it's almost nothing. Three percent, two percent, and sometimes no percent down payment. And they're encouraging developers to get involved in this program, because they've got five billion dollars ($5,000,000,000) for the next five years to disseminate in loan guarantees, right? Mr. Bailey: Yes. Vice .Chairman Clark: And I want Miller to hear this, because it's... Last Friday, we met with - and walked him into our midst - the Fannie Mae group. And Mr. Small, who is the director out of Atlanta, stated they're moving into the Miami -Dade - is that the name of it? Mr. Bailey: It's Miami -Dade Housing. Vice Chairman Clark: Yeah. And they have money for as low as three percent down payment, very low interest rates. In addition to that, I was just telling the group here that they have five billion dollars ($5,000,000,000) available in the next five years. So I asked Herb to say a few words. I didn't want to embarrass him, but to let him know that you're talking about developers, an RFQ for developers, if they know about this... They invited developers to come down also, did they not? Mr. Bailey: Yes. We're going to add that to the resources that we can provide to developers. I had some meeting with Fannie Mae prior to that meeting, and they seemed to be very anxious to compete with FHA (Rderal Housing Authority). In fact, they indicated, "Well, we have just as good a program," so I like that. So we'll now have FHA and Fannie Mae both with programs that are very flexible to be used in these areas. Vice Chairman Clark: What I believe we should do is have Ms. Jones, who is the local director, right? Mr. Bailey: Yes. Vice Chairman Clark: Shalley Jones? Mr. Bailey: Yes, she is. Vice Chairman Clark: To come down and address us at the next meeting to tell you what's available, because what they... That room was absolutely saturated with interested parties finding out what's available, not only in Miami, but all over Dade County, South Florida. So we make our pitch first. September the 28th, is that the meeting with all the bankers? 7 July 31, 1995 Mr. Bailey: Yes. NOTE FOR THE RECORD: Board Member De Yurre entered the meeting at 9:20 a.m.) Vice Chairman Clark: We're going to host that meeting. The City of Miami is going to host that meeting for all the bankers. And this is something that's guaranteed, and we should take advantage of it, primarily for the Overtown/CRA area. Chairman Dawkins: And you want her to appear before... Vice Chairman Clark: I would like her to explain to you, sir, and my colleagues on this board, exactly what's available. Chairman Dawkins: OK. Why don't we, Vice Chair, invite her to our next meeting which will be in the Omni area, and take it upon ourselves to invite all of these developers whom we're talking about to the meeting, so that they can hear it firsthand, those who did not come, and we won't have to tell them. What do you think, Mr. Mayor? Vice Chairman Clark: I told Herb the other day, that's exactly what we should do, get her down here and let her talk to the interested parties, because the money is available, and if we don't take advantage of it now, it will go somewhere else. Chairman Dawkins: That's right, it will. Vice Chairman Clark: It's about like that bed tax money. It doesn't go to the Beach, it went to Homestead. Chairman Dawkins: OK. All right. That's another item... Vice Chairman Clark: He knows Shalley Jones well, don't you? Mr. Bailey: Yes. I've met with her. Chairman Dawkins: Yeah, I've met with her, too, Mr. Mayor. I know her well. Vice Chairman Clark: She's a nice lady, isn't she? Chairman Dawkins: Mm-hmm. Very knowledgeable. As I explained before, Commissioner De Yurre thought the meeting was to start at 9:30 - no, not "thought" - he was informed, and the Mayor thought so, too. Again, we are having difficulty - not difficulty, but there's a problem with trying to coordinate the meeting. But at this meeting, we will decide today what time and place the next meeting will be in the Omni, because this meeting is primarily dealing with the Overtown area, and we do have to constitute as different CRA boards for the two areas. We can't interchange the functions. So here, we're talking about primarily what's happening in Overtown. The next meeting will be at the Omni, where we will discuss what's happening at the Omni. But at that meeting, we will also have Ms. Jones, who will explain to us what Fannie Mae has to offer to the Greater Miami area, including all of Dade County. That's correct, Mr. Mayor. 8 July 31, 1995 i Vice Chairman Clark: Primarily, it's Miami -Dade, and they mention Miami first, so let's take first shot at it. Chairman Dawkins: Hey, all right, no problem. OK. Mr. De Yurre, the budget was not... I mean no one had it in their package, so since no one had it in their package, as the Chair, I took the prerogative to reschedule a discussion on the budget at the next meeting so that anyone who has any problems or any questions will have had time to read it, and digest it, and come up with questions, rather than trying to go through it now. Board Member De Yurre: I thought you might tell me it was your prerogative to just approve it. Vice Chairman Clark: No, we didn't do that. Chairman Dawkins: No, we didn't do that. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5. DISCUSS MARKETING STRATEGY FOR OVERTOWN AREA, PROPOSED INTERNATIONAL TRADE BUILDING AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING PLANS. Chairman Dawkins: OK. Now, 7... What is the development of marketing materials? Mr. Herb Bailey (Executive Director): We have to, Mr. Chairman, start marketing the Overtown area over again. 1983 and '84, we were... We marketed what we had at the time, telling developers in the community what our intentions were, trying to get public interest in terms of the banking institutions and local developers. What we are saying here is we have to put together a new marketing package that explains all of the new sources of assistance that we have, and explain the new management style as it relates to the CRA, and the functions with which we can carry out that may be a little different than what we have proposed back in 1982 and '83. It's just a matter of putting it on here so you'd be aware that we will start incurring some expense to sell Overtown and sell Park West. We have a lot of interest being expressed from housing developers. We want to make a real concentrated effort to get the international trade center in Park West and the Freedom Tower area, which will probably be the development that would turn everything around. That's a 2.6 million square feet development when it's finished. So we have to put material back out to the public to let them know what we're doing, what we have to offer, and how we intend to go about making it available to the public. Chairman Dawkins: Well, as we market it, market the area, be sure that the Omni area and the Overtown area understand that the International Trade Building will enhance both areas. So both areas, we should be fighting, fighting, because somebody is talking about... somebody... Maurice Ferre said that somebody... They want to put that International Trade Building out by the airport. So all of us up here should be lobbying as hard as we can to ensure that it goes in the... Mr. Bailey: Downtown Miami. Chairman Dawkins:... downtown area. So that would be a tremendous boost for us. Board Member Gort: Well, Mr. Chairman, my understanding was that the study that was done recommended that it be done in downtown Miami; am I correct? 9 July 31, 1995 l,.04 Mr. Bailey: The three sites recommended, the three sites recommended are in downtown Miami, and the primary site is the Freedom Tower area, which we're going to go all out to try to make it out. Board Member Gort: Also, my understanding is an RFP (Request for Proposals) was approved by the County with only... Mr. Bailey: Three sites. Board Member Gort: ... these three sites, downtown and three sites, that's it. Mr. Bailey: Three, yes. Board Member Gort: That RFP went out and it was approved by the County... Mr. Bailey: Yes. Board Member Gort: ... at their last meeting, right? Mr. Bailey: Yes. We are very much involved with those meetings, as it relates to getting the facility downtown. We think that Park West has probably more advantages to a developer than the other two sites, because of the tax increment nature and what we can offer to a developer. So we have made it part of our priority to put together.a package that developers can relate to when i they submit their proposals. ! Chairman Dawkins: Anything else on that? i Vice Chairman Clark: That's a problem we have to discuss with Ms. Jones. She doesn't realize about the tax increment situation. It wouldn't apply to Overtown, of course. Mr. Bailey: Yes, it does. Vice Chairman Clark: It does? Mr. Bailey: Yes. See, because what happens in Park West with the Tax Increment District is for the entire area. So taxes that are developed in any parts of it benefit the other. Vice Chairman Clark: Well, that could be a real boon. That could be a real transfusion right now. Very important. All right, sir. Chairman Dawkins: OK, anything else? OK. Mr. Bailey: One item, Mr. Chairman, I didn't mention is the... and it's just an administrative function. The ordinance that you passed does permit the CRA to become developers, and joint venturers, and partners with other developers, and in some cases, we might find it necessary to do that. And when that happens, we'll come back before you with a proposal. Chairman Dawkins: Well, that... I was thinking that, and along the same lines as what the Mayor was saying, that with Ms. Jones and the developers, if the City of Miami has to be the partner in this in order to get the housing where we want it, hey, and we own the land already, hey, make the partnership and go. Vice Chairman Clark: Absolutely. 10 July 31, 1995 Mr, Bailey: That's a possibility and that's... Vice Chairman Clark: Expedite it. Mr. Bailey: ... as a last resort development, yes. If we can't get a developer to build, then we come in and joint venture, and build it ourselves. Chairman Dawkins: Mm-hmm. OK. Vice Chairman Clark: Now, that's affordable housing. We're not talking about a hundred and fifty thousand dollars ($150,000). This is limited to persons up to... What's the schedule? Well, she'll give you the scale of income. Mr. Bailey: Eighty percent above the median. The median income in the County is, I think, about twenty-nine thousand ($29,000). So we're looking at people who make fifty thousand dollars ($50,000) or less. And the housing that we are planning, Mr. Mayor, is that they run between sixty and ninety thousand dollars ($60,000 and $90,000). That meets the criteria for affordability to low and moderate income people, with mortgages running between five and six hundred dollars ($500 and $600) a month. Chairman Dawkins: We have to come to the realization that in the event that we want to put, as what we, this board, is calling affordable housing... Vice Chairman Clark: Right. Chairman Dawkins: ... if we want to put affordable housing in Edgewater, affordable may be a hundred thousand ($100,000). Mr. Bailey: It's possible. Chairman Dawkins: OK. Because nobody in Edgewater is going to sit idly by for us to bring in a sixty thousand dollar ($60,000) house, because they're going to say we're lowering the value. But if we put a... If the value in there is a hundred thousand ($100,000), then we, this board, should accept the fact that's affordable for that area. Now, a hundred thousand ($100,000) is not affordable, Mr. Mayor, for where we're talking about in Overtown. Vice Chairman Clark: That's right, exactly. That's what I meant. Chairman Dawkins: That's right. So that's... OK. Mr. Bailey: May I just explain what we look at as affordability? And you're correct, Commissioner. See, affordability to us is not a matter of construction. That's cheap housing. Affordability is a matter of financing, and we have methods of putting together the financing where if we have to build a hundred thousand dollar house, when we finish with the tier of mortgages, it still would be done in such a way that it's affordable to the individual. So we structure the financing so that the affordability will not cause us to build a cheap house. Chairman Dawkins: OK. Thank you. Vice Chairman Clark: There might be also a provision in that - and we'll check into it and see - for the Omni area insofar as infrastructure is concerned. There's money available. We're talking about five billion dollars ($5,000,000,000), that's an awful lot of money. So we can find out from Ms. Jones at that time if this also fits into our scheme of things about reinvestment insofar as the infrastructure of the Omni area is concerned, which you people are interested in, basically, right? 11 July 31, 1995 0 Chairman Dawkins: OK. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6. (A) DISCUSS DRUG SALES IN 9TH STREET (OVERTOWN AREA) MALL. (B) DISCUSS PROBLEMS RE UNSAFE, ABANDONED BUILDINGS -- WILL TAKE INPUT FROM OVERTOWN ADVISORY BOARD AND OMNI TASK FORCE. (C) CRA MEETINGS TO BE HELD ON LOCATION (OVERTOWN AND OMNI AREAS). (D) BUILDING AT 240 N.W. 11 STREET EVICTION PROBLEM -- ST. AGNES RAINBOW VILLAGE, NEW HORIZONS COMMUNITY MENTAL HEALTH, FATHER BARRY, AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECT. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Chairman Dawkins: Now, as closing, I have two items of discussion. Number one, board members, we're going to have to find the methodology to remove the drug flea market off the mall. Now, somehow, they've put pressure on the drug sales in Liberty City and in Coconut .Grove, and now, it's.... I mean, they're selling drugs out of parking lots, grocery carts, and everything. And I see it. I don't see why the police does not see it. So somehow, this board is going to go on record. You've got a drug task force, you got a street narcotics force, we got overtime. There's no reason why other areas can get - i.e. Biscayne Boulevard - can get the policing that it needs, and we cannot get a task force to clean up that mall and get the drug sales off of it. Vice Chairman Clark: You're talking about the new mall. Chairman Dawkins: Yes, sir Vice Chairman Clark: The new mall. Chairman Dawkins: Yeah, the 9th Street Mall, Mr. Mayor. I mean, it's a drug flea market. You go through there and anything you... You want to say something? Come to the mike, sir. Ms. Linda Kearson (Assistant City Attorney): Mr. Chairman, just a point of clarification here. Are we discussing the mall in the Omni area, or are we just talking about a drug problem... Chairman Dawkins: The mall in the 9th Street Overtown area. Ms. Kearson: OK. I just wanted... just for clarification. Chairman Dawkins: That's what we're discussing, and any citizen can comment on it. Go right ahead, sir. Mr. Fred Joseph: Chair, thank you for your input into this. We have just received a bulletin that they're looking at moving something that we're really disturbed about. They're looking at moving the NET (Neighborhood Enhancement Team) office out of our area, and I have marked on the diagram where they want to move the NET offices down... Chairman Dawkins: Now, wait, now. This is the Omni area. 12 July 31, 1995 Chairman Dawkins: OK. Go ahead, go ahead. Mr. Joseph: And they want to move it into the downtown at... I'm sorry. Chairman Dawkins: Go right ahead. Wait a minute, sir. Ms. Kearson: Just to reiterate, the City Commission sits as the CRA for both the Omni District and the Overtown/Park West District. In order for them to do business, they have to convene as either of those CRAs. They cannot combine the two. In order for us to maintain accurate records, we have to make sure we distinguish the City Commission as the Omni CRA or the Overtown/Park West CRA. I think at this point, the City Commission is convened as the Overtown/Park West CRA, and should be dealing with only those matters that are pertinent to that particular redevelopment district. They would then have to adjourn as the Overtown CRA, and convene as the Omni CRA to deal with Omni pertinent issues. I know it's... Vice Chairman Clark: We can do that in a minute. Ms. Kearson: And we just need to get that clear, because in order for the City Clerk to maintain accurate records, we have to make sure that we are one or the other. We can't be both. We can't keep interchanging areas and items. We can't do that. Chairman Dawkins: OK. Have a seat. Mr. Joseph: Thank you. Chairman Dawkins: We'll finish with the Overtown area, and then we'll get back to you. Mr. Donald Benjamin: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Do we have to identify ourselves? Chairman Dawkins: Beg your pardon? Mr. Benjamin: Do we have to identify ourselves for the record, name and all that? Board Member Gort: Yes. Chairman Dawkins: Yes, please. Mr. Benjamin: Donald F. Benjamin, 417 Northwest 6th Street. A couple of observations, Mr. Chairman. I am happy to see that the CRA is meeting. The notice said it's a special meeting, so I don't know if others... But anyway, we're talking other things. One of the first observations, is it possible for us in the public to have access to some of the documents you're talking about? For instance, you know, you're talking about the budget, you're talking about some other things, and we don't know exactly what's going on. So... Chairman Dawkins: Wait a minute, Mr. Benjamin. Don't say that to us. You know that anything we have up here is public information. All you have to do is require it. No, no, no. All you have to do is request it, and you get it. Mr. Benjamin: Listen... Chairman Dawkins: Make a request and you'll get whatever documents we have. 13 July 31, 1995 I S 2 Mr. Benjamin: I did ask, but they weren't available. That's what I'm saying. I did ask. Chairman Dawkins: You request it, you'll get it. Mr. Benjamin: I did ask, but it wasn't... Chairman Dawkins: Well, you ask it now, and you'll get it. OK? Mr. Benjamin: OK. Chairman Dawkins: All right. Go right ahead, sir. Mr. Benjamin: The second thing, in terms of immediate projects, I know most of the time you're talking about the tax increment district in Overtown, so I'll just... But the Overtown Advisory Board is looking at all of Overtown, and I don't know if you are going... In terms of an immediate project, there are several buildings in Overtown that are abandoned, that are boarded up, that, you know, are problem areas - and if we want to talk about the drugs, and I'm sure that there will be backup on this - and it would seem to me that this might be an appropriate project to start on immediately within less than 24 months, if you can get some of those buildings demolished, and cleaned up, and cleared up. And the final thing I would like to interject is that you know that some two or three years ago, the City Commission gave the Overtown Advisory ...... _ Board a hundred thousand dollars ($100,000) to develop a plan, which we have developed, and i we look at that as the plan for the rest of Overtown. And I would hope that somewhere along the i line that this plan would receive some sort of consideration, action from this here... Chairman Dawkins: Wait one minute, now. Madam City Attorney, for the benefit of those of us who do not know, what is the procedure for demolishing a building, and what has been our experience in time frame and going to court and what have you? NOTE FOR THE RECORD: Board Member Plummer entered the meeting at 9:33 a.m. Board Member Gort: Bad, very bad. Ms. Kearson: For demolishing a building? Chairman Dawkins: Yes, yes. Ms. Kearson: Is it a City -owned building or... Chairman Dawkins: No, no, privately -owned, abandoned building, abandoned by the property owner. Ms. Kearson: I don't know, sir. I'm going to have to find out for you. I couldn't tell you offhand. I'll check on that for you. Chairman Dawkins: Mr. Bailey, what have we found out, sir? Mr. Bailey: We have tried to put together a Code Enforcement Program. We have found out that once the building is cited, it goes through the City's process. If there is no compliance, then 14 July 31, 1995 it is submitted to the County's Unsafe Structures Board, and they make a citation whether to demolish the building or whatever. We find that even after they make a citation for the building to be demolished, the property owner has the right to come in and make an appeal, and that may stretch for another year or so. We have buildings that we have been trying to get torn down for three or four years. And it's very aggravating to us, because one of the things we wanted to do in Overtown, which is one of the 120-day priority items, was to put up a Code Enforcement Program where we could begin to demolish those buildings which were cited as unsafe - you could easily see them when you drive by - and creating a substantial blighting influence, and we found out that we just can't do that. I think at a meeting with Commissioner Gort, he had indicated he was trying to, I think, come up with some way in which we could expedite the removal of unsafe structures. But the process can go three years minimum to get a building that has been cited as unsafe torn down. However, I have been told that the Police Department has some prerogatives. If they make three arrests in a building and the owner or the tenants do not rectify the problem, they can confiscate the building and I think in that process, we can tear it down. But whichever one we use is going to require a lot of support from the Administration as it relates to code enforcement, because that is one of our most critical problems. The drug scenes where you make three or four arrests, and you can confiscate the property, and the forcing of the unsafe structure board to expedite the demolishing of buildings that are unsafe. Chairman Dawkins: OK. But all I'm saying is that - to Mr. Benjamin, is that collectively, we can get it done. OK? We have to work collectively. We can't start throwing bricks at each other. We have to say, "This is what we're going to do," and let's do it. Now, whatever it takes _ to get those buildings down, that's our job. Now, as to .the plan, the plan is great, but I'm going to say as I said from sitting up here originally, the plan does not spell out where the dollars are coming from, the plan that we have for Overtown. Now, it's a glorious plan, but where are the dollars? Now, that we can discuss with you. OK? Mr. Benjamin: Oh, OK, fine, because there is a... There's a whole section on the financing of the plan, but I would hope, too, that somewhere along the line, that the Overtown Advisory Board and the CRA would get together and explore these. Board Member Gort: Right. Vice Chairman Clark: Absolutely, yes, sir. Mr. Benjamin: Thank you very much. Board Member Gort: Mr. Chairman. Chairman Dawkins: Yes, sir, go ahead, Mr. Gort. Board Member Gort: What I would like to see, if possible, is for our staff to get together with their board and make sure we have some of the input into our plans, which I think we've already been doing that, if I'm correct. Chairman Dawkins: OK. Mr. Bailey: May I, Mr. Chairman? Chairman Dawkins: Go right ahead. Mr. Bailey: We do intend to meet with the Overtown Advisory Board and the Omni Task Force, or the board that represents the Omni. And I would just like to say this, and at this time put it on the record. There is a reason that we didn't get all the information out to the public. We only 15 July 31, 1995 had about four or five days to put together this meeting, and I would hope that at this board meeting that we would be given some definite dates as to when we're going to have meetings so we can prepare the documentation for the public and get it to them. We... Chairman Dawkins: You know, Mr. Bailey, that's... Listen, that's not acceptable. OK? The same time that you made it available to us was enough time to make it available to the public, OK? Listen to me, now. OK? You got it into our hands, and we could have gotten it into the hands of the public. And so from now on, we'll just tell them we'll do better, that's all. Mr. Bailey: Yeah, we'll get it to them. Chairman Dawkins: OK, that's all. Mr. Bailey: One other point, Commissioner, I'd like to bring out, because it was requested from the two districts. I know we should have meetings for each district. We had... We would like to recommend that when they have the meeting for the Overtown part of the CRA that we meet in the project area. The arena has indicated that they would make it available to us to meet with Overtown in the arena. We will get a neutral spot in the Omni so we can have our meetings in the Omni District for the Omni CRA. We have some logistical problems that we're going to have to work out with the City Clerk in terms of setting up the communications. So we would like to be able to do that, have the meetings in the various districts, so we can discuss the problems as they pertain to that district with those citizens there. Chairman Dawkins: OK. Mr. Bailey, I will put in the record that this meeting was scheduled to be held at the arena. Vice Chairman Clark: Yes, it was. Chairman Dawkins: But because of the arena's priority, people who pay, they used it, and we did not have the time to set the meeting up. I had already gone on record asking Commissioners for a date, because everybody is ready for vacation. So we had to get it as close to the dates that were offered as possible. From now on, you're right, we will have the Omni meeting in the Omni area, and the Overtown meeting in the Overtown area, whether it will be... Vice Chairman Clark: Available. Chairman Dawkins: ... whatever is available in Overtown, that's where we will go. You had something, Board Member Gort? Board Member Gort: One of the questions that I had is, my understanding is... Before every Commission meeting, we get a stack of documents that we go through with the agenda, and my understanding is the public doesn't get that until after the meetings. So I think that we should make that clear, because I don't want anybody to start coming in here and start requesting all kinds of documentation that we may not be able to supply. Chairman Dawkins: Well, see, what we're saying is that - which makes sense - when we get the document, it is not official until we approve it. Board Member Gort: Right. Chairman Dawkins: Because there may be addendums, deletions and additions. So therefore, the documents will not be available until after the CRA Board has approved or disapproved them. Is that agreeable? 16 July 31, 1995 Vice Chairman Clark: Very good. Board Member Gort: Yes, sir. I think what we can do is, in this particular case, since there's two associations that have been working very close with us, those associations or their representatives should have the documentation, or should have knowledge of what we're going to be discussing. Chairman Dawkins: Whatever we agree on. OK? Now, the other item of interest is, I must bring to your attention, the City of Miami gave Father Barry and his church a building, and Mr. Bailey will have to explain the details. I've gotten all kinds of correspondence in reference to that building. People are being dispossessed - where is the letter now from the lady? - and they are concerned that, according to them - and I'll read in the record, and I'll give everybody a copy of this: "Dear Commissioner Dawkins: Your help is needed if we are to save our housing. As you are aware, the City of Miami has turned our building over to Saint Agnes Rainbow Village CDC. The CDC has decided to turn the property over to New Horizon Community Mental Health Program. This action caused an eviction notice to be issued to the tenants who were already living in the building. We were told that the building would be used to house homeless people from New Horizon. We cannot see the purpose in causing us to become homeless so that you can house others. We have done everything that we could, and nothing has changed. The above -mentioned property is located at 240 Northwest 11th �_..._.._.._...__.__._. _ ... _ Street...This .matter is very important to us, so .we would like to appear at your next meeting to discuss it." I'll give you what little knowledge I have on it, and then Mr. Bailey can give you the other. This is a building that was abandoned - I mean, no, it couldn't have been abandoned, because people were living in it - but this is a building that for some reason, we decided, the City decided to give the building to Father Barry, because he was going to rehab it, quote/unquote, to provide affordable housing. Now, we find out - and this is hearsay, I don't have anything in writing - that Father Barry has accepted the building from the City of Miami and leased the building to New Horizon. Now, New Horizon, it's my understanding, is evicting people, causing them to be homeless, to do just what we said we didn't want to do in the city of Miami - bring in more facilities to take off the tax rolls. It was under our impression that if you give this building to Father Barry, they would rehab it, and the people who lived in it would pay rent, and there would be taxes. So I don't understand how he could lease it if we gave it to him, but can you explain? Do you have anything to share on it, Mr. Bailey? Mr. Bailey: Father Barry made a request to the Housing Department for a building that Saint Agnes could use as a demonstration on how they could provide safe and decent housing for people in Overtown. At the time, the City was having a considerable amount of problems with the 240 Building. I think the building has had problems since the day it was done, and it was rehabbed at fifty-seven thousand dollars ($57,000) a unit many years ago, and the management of it had fallen short, and tenants were not paying their rent. And we thought that this would be a good building for Saint Agnes to use as a demonstration of how they could provide safe and decent affordable housing in the inner City. So the City recommended to the Commission, the Housing Department recommended that we would give this building to Saint Agnes for that purpose. Since then, we have had a slight deviation from what we thought was going to happen in the building. We have not had any meetings with Saint Agnes as to how they were going to go about that. Vice Chairman Clark: Did you say a "slight" deviation? Board Member Plummer: The question has to be... First and foremost, I think we ought to invite Father Barry to be here, to hear his side of the story. But second of all, shame on us if we 17 July 31, 1995 didn't write into the contract when we gave that property, there was a reverter that we kept control. And I would assume that that was done. Am I correct or not correct? Mr. Bailey: I've checked on that, Commissioner, and I understand the building was transferred fee simple. Board Member Plummer: So in other words, it was a big away. Ms. Kearson: Well, but... Board Member Plummer: I mean, I don't know how else you can call it. Mr. Bailey: It was a fee simple transfer. Ms. Kearson: Right. Mr. Bailey: And you can call it a giveaway, but we thought it was a good giveaway at the time. Ms. Kearson: But we do have a reverter, Board Member Plummer, whereby if the property is not used for housing, then it reverts back. So there is a reverter in the deed that was conveyed. Chairman Dawkins: But it's not being used, Madam Attorney, it's not being used for the housing that it was stated to be used for. So that's.... Ma'am? Ms. Kearson: No, I'm saying that could be the issue that we'd have to address. If it's not being used for the intended purpose, then the reverter provision could, in fact, be addressed that way. I'm just not certain. Board Member Plummer: Well, Mr. Chairman, I wouldn't want to go any further without having Father Barry here to explain exactly what happened, and we can talk directly with him so that we don't have to depend on hearsay or whatever else may be. Let's get it straight from him. So I would suggest that at our very next meeting - since obviously, it was fee simple, then there's not a hell of a lot we can do about it, even if he did - that we invite him to be here to tell us what he did. Chairman Dawkins: OK. Well, let me read in the record again, and I'll give you a copy of it, the lady who's complaining is Mrs. Christina Mansfield: "Dear Mrs. Mansfield: My office has contacted Father Barry on two occasions concerning the 240 Building. Father Barry returned the second call and informed us that the 240 Building is not owned by New Horizon. However, you claim that you know of proof which states quite the opposite. Should you obtain proof of ownership from the County Clerk's Office, I really would appreciate you providing my office with a copy." Board Member Plummer: Well, excuse me. Did you say that they now own it... Chairman Dawkins: I don't know. Board Member Plummer: ... or is it a lease? Chairman Dawkins: I'm like you, J.L., I don't know. Board Member Plummer: Well, see, those are the kinds of things that I think we've got to establish and know for sure, before we start trying to make some kind... 18 July 31, 1995 Chairman Dawkins: So should we schedule this for our next CRA meeting? Board Member Plummer: Absolutely, give him the opportunity. Chairman Dawkins: Make a motion. Board Member Plummer: I so move that Father Barry be invited to the next meeting to put the facts on top of the table as it relates to this matter. Chairman Dawkins: And also the people who are being dispossessed. Board Member Plummer: Oh, anybody that wishes, I mean, but him in particular, because he was the one that got this fee simple. Chairman Dawkins: OK. Mr. McKnight. Mr. Irby McKnight: Irby McKnight, 22412th Street, in reference to... Vice Chairman Clark: Can we handle this thing and get this motion out of the way, Mr. Chairman? Chairman Dawkins: Yes, sir, I'm sorry. Mr. McKnight: In reference to 240... Chairman Dawkins: Call the roll, please, Mr. Clerk. Mr. Walter Foeman (City Clerk): I need a seconder, Mr. Chairman. I need a seconder to the motion. Chairman Dawkins: Yes, mm-hmm. Board Member Gort: I second. The following motion was introduced by Board Member Plummer, who moved its adoption: SEOPW/CRA M 95-3 A MOTION INVITING FATHER RICHARD BARRY AND OTHER INTERESTED PARTIES TO APPEAR AT THE NEXT MEETING TO DISCUSS HOUSING PROBLEMS IN CONNECTION WITH THE BUILDING LOCATED AT 240 N.W. 11 STREET. 19 July 31, 1995 Upon being seconded by Board Member Gort, the motion was passed and adopted by the following vote: AYES: Board Member Wifredo Gort Board Member Victor De Yurre Board Member J.L. Plummer, Jr. Vice Chairman Stephen P. Clark Chairman Miller J. Dawkins NAYS: None. ABSENT: None. Chairman Dawkins: Now, I'm sorry, go ahead, Mr. McKnight. Mr. McKnight: New Horizon has already occupied the building with homeless and mental patients that are not residents or were ever residents of Overtown. There are eight men in the building now, and the people who live there have been notified that they have to vacate the premises, or legal action will be taken against them as of August 31st. We did go to the Clerk's Office on Thursday, and there is no recorded sale of the building, either than the City transfer of the building to Father Barry. Also, in the third paragraph of the document I brought back to Ms. Mansfield from the Clerk's Office, it... When the building was donated to the City by Mr. Bader (phonetic), it's a clause that is stated it could only be used to house Overtown residents. Board Member Plummer: Well, here again, I would not want to go into any other conversation without Father Barry being present to either explain or defend his position. I think it's not proper to do it without him being here. Board Member Gort: OK. I agree. Chairman Dawkins: We all agree to that. Vice Chairman Clark: All right, next item. Chairman Dawkins: Anything else for the Overtown area? I'll take a motion to adjourn the Overtown... Vice Chairman Clark: Moved. Board Member Gort: Second. Chairman Dawkins: Call the roll. Board Member Plummer: What was that? What was the motion? Vice Chairman Clark: We got to move to go back to the CRA... Chairman Dawkins: Adjourn the Overtown CRA meeting. 01 July 31, 1995 -------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7. (A) DISCUSS FUNDING FOR CRA DISTRICTS. (B) RECOGNIZE HOLLAND AND KNIGHT AS BOND COUNSEL FOR CRA -- BOARD MEMBER PLUMMER QUESTIONS WAIVER OF BIDDING PROCEDURES AND SELECTION OF A NON -LOCAL BOND ATTORNEY. Board Member Plummer: I have some questions, but I can't tell you which geographical area they relate to. Let me just proffer the question. The CRA exists, but it doesn't exist. Am I correct? In other words, without an interlocal agreement being signed, we don't exist - I mean financially. Is that a correct statement? Mr. Herb Bailey (Executive Director): No. We exist, Commissioner, because the County ordinance designated a CRA when they passed the ordinance setting up the Tax Increment District. However, as it relates to managing the fund, or who does what within the district, the management structure remains with the County until an interlocal agreement is signed. Board Member Plummer: Which has not been done. Mr. Bailey: It has been signed for Overtown. It has not been signed for Omni. Board Member Plummer: OK. So in other words, in Overtown, funds are starting to be collected? Mr. Bailey: We've had funds for quite some time. We have eleven million dollars ($11,000,000) worth of debt in Overtown. Overtown is nine -13 years old. Board Member Plummer: Eleven million dollars ($11,000,000) worth of debt? Mr. Bailey: Overtown... We passed a bond issue some time ago. Overtown CRA has been functioning since 1982. Board Member Plummer: OK, I understand that. But what I'm saying is, is the CRA in Overtown, is that able now to collect funds from the aggregate of the redevelopment? Mr. Bailey: Yes. Board Member Plummer: OK. And at this particular point, have there been any other funds except City involved funds - bonds, revenue or otherwise? Mr. Bailey: Yes. We have revenue bonds that have been issued... Board Member Plummer: No, no, no. That are generated from the aggregate of the Overtown area. Mr. Bailey: Do we have other monies? Board Member Plummer: Yes. Mr. Bailey: Yes. We have income from leases, there has been some income from the parking revenue and... 21 July 31, 1995 Board Member Plummer: No, you're missing... Maybe I'm missing. The monies of CRA come from the aggregate of improvements to the district. Am I correct? Mr. Bailey: Yes. Increase over the base... Board Member Plummer: OK. Have there been any funds or revenues derived from the primary source? Chairman Dawkins: Yes. The arena. Board Member Plummer: OK. You, in other words... Mr. Bailey: We have lots of... Yeah, we have revenue. We have been accumulating revenue... Board Member Plummer: What is your annual revenue in Overtown from - or anticipated? Board Member Gort: Nine hundred and some thousand. Mr. Bailey: The annual revenue is nine hundred and twelve thousand ($912,000). Board Member Plummer: Is that from CRA type of funding only, or is that from revenue bonds and other sources? Mr. Bailey: CRA type of funding, and it's made up of tax increment, interest on investments, the State of Florida, which is the three hundred thousand dollars ($300,000) that the City contributes for the arena. We have money from the Off -Street Parking that we're going to request, and we have five thousand dollars ($5,000) that we project we'll be receiving from the leases. Board Member Plummer: OK. So... Mr. Bailey: So we have... Board Member Plummer: Go ahead. Mr. Bailey: We were receiving more until they took off the Courthouse Center Building. But to date, we get nine hundred - we have projected nine hundred and nineteen thousand dollars ($919,000) a year that comes from CRA generated activities. Board Member Plummer: OK. So, now, then switching gears over to Omni. The same question. Mr. Bailey: We're projecting to receive this year, based on the motion that was made at the last Commission meeting, one million one hundred and thirteen thousand ($1,113,000) in revenues that will be deposited into the trust fund for the Omni CRA. Board Member Plummer: And where will that money come from? Mr. Bailey: That will come from tax revenues only. Board Member Plummer: Already been collected? 22 July 31, 1995 Mr. Bailey: Well, yes, it's money to be collected. The money we collected previously went back to the taxing authorities. The City and the County retrieved the money. But the motion that was passed at the last meeting, those monies now will stay in the trust fund. Board Member Plummer: But are you looking for the City, or the County, or otherwise retroactively to come up with the money to put in, that 1.3? Mr. Bailey: No, we're not. It's just the current year's collection that's projected at 1.1. Board Member Plummer: OK. My other question is, I have here in front of me a group of documents of attorneys and other things. Are you anticipating that there will be one set for Omni and one set for Overtown? Mr. Bailey: Yes. Board Member Plummer: My next question is, have these been bidded? Were these on a bid? Chairman Dawkins: No, no, we did not bid them because these people, I felt, had been working with us all along, and we needed to hit the ground running, and I just went ahead and signed the agreement with them. Mr. Bailey: Holland and Knight has always been our bond counsel. Board Member Plummer: That's not my point. Holland and Knight, in particular, I am concerned since I don't know who... Mr. Bailey: The Miami Group. Board Member Plummer: No. I don't know who David - what's his name? Unidentified Speaker: Cardwell. Board Member Plummer: David Cardwell, I'm concerned about him not living in Miami. Mr. Bailey: Which one are you looking at? Board Member Plummer: I'm looking at the Holland and Knight letter from Robert J. Friedman. Mr. Bailey: All right. Board Member Plummer: I don't see any... Mr. Bailey: It's a Miami law firm. Board Member Plummer: Excuse me? Mr. Bailey: It's a Miami law firm. Board Member Plummer: But he is... This David will be travelling to Miami. He's not a local person, and that bothers me. Mr. Bailey: He's one of... Well, David Cardwell... Chairman Dawkins: OK, hold it, one minute. If that bothers him, I will pass a motion that we waive the residency on him like we do on everything else. 23 July 31, 1995 Board Member Plummer: No, no, it's not the residency. That's not my point Commissioner - Board member, Chairman. My point is that the man doesn't live here. Now, where does he live and where are we talking about? Why we didn't... Chairman Dawkins: I move... Board Member Plummer: You know my point. My point is, why didn't we use local people? Chairman Dawkins: As the Chairperson, I relinquish the chair. I move that... This is an important issue here, we need to get this moving, and I move that we waive the residency for this particular contract, as we do up here in regular committee meetings and all. I so move. Vice Chairman Clark: Is there a second? Board Member Plummer: I have no problem with the motion made. I'll vote for it, but you're missing my point. Mr. Bailey: May I try to explain it, Commissioner? Board Member Plummer: My point simply is, is why we didn't use... We have many, many bond counsel... Chairman Dawkins: Because they did not have the expertise of working with us all through the work. I needed somebody to hit the ground running, J.L. I did not need somebody to come in and have to find out what we were doing, and have to go back and reschool them to go ahead. Board Member Plummer: All right. So in other words, what we're looking at, this can be cancelled within 14 days. Mr. Bailey: I don't know what... Board Member Plummer: I assume all contracts are written the same way. Chairman Dawkins: Yes, that's fine. Board Member Plummer: Do we have yet the scope of work which would give the indication of the maximum amount of money that would be spent? Chairman Dawkins: Yes. Board Member Plummer: Because the only thing I'm showing in this document here is administrative cost. It does not show consultants. Do you have an estimated cost on consultants? Mr. Bailey: Which document are you looking at? Board Member Plummer: Any of the three. I have one here from Holland and Knight. Mr. Bailey: Yes. Board Member Plummer: I have one here from... Board Member Gort: You need a copy of the budget. 24 July 31, 1995 OA Board Member Plummer: No, I don't have a copy of the budget. Board Member Gort: That's the problem. Board Member Plummer: Do they show consultants in the budget? Mr. Bailey: Yeah, yeah, we have it in the... Board Member Plummer: This is Carr, Smith? Mr. Bailey: Yes. May I explain each one of them as you go, Commissioner? Board Member Plummer: Please do, because I... Mr. Bailey: We'll take Holland and Knight first. Holland and Knight has been a part of the CRA operation for about 12 years. Board Member Plummer: OK. Mr. Bailey: They have... David Cardwell, the person that you are referring to in the document, is one of the foremost authorities in the state on tax increment. Chairman Dawkins: Mr. Bailey, I've been through that. OK? Mr. Bailey: Yeah. Chairman Dawkins: I made a motion up here. OK? I mean, I'm not going through... Board Member Plummer: Excuse me, excuse me. Chairman Dawkins: Yeah. Board Member Plummer: Mr. Dawkins. Chairman Dawkins: Yes. Board Member Plummer: If nothing more, I am establishing on the record, as you know, the minute you do this without going through a bidding procedure, you're going to have other people up here pointing all kind of fingers why it didn't go to bidding, and "Why didn't we have the opportunity to bid on this as others?" And the, of course, you go to competitive pricing. Holland and Knight, without question, is one of the finest firms in the State of Florida. My only question in that was why we didn't use a local man. Chairman Dawkins: Well, OK... Board Member Plummer: Excuse me. Chairman Dawkins: Go right ahead. I'm sorry. Board Member Plummer: The others, with Carr, Smith and that, I don't see any outline of what they are supposed to be accomplishing which would tell me an approximate cost or a maximum expense that they would be doing for the next year. 25 July 31, 1995 Chairman Dawkins: We will... I will schedule that as a discussion item at the next meeting, and I will provide you with the information beforehand so that you will have it and be prepared. OK? Is that good enough, sir? Board Member Plummer: OK. And I haven't... Excuse me. Just for the record, I have no question about the quality of information on this man. My only question is that we do have a lot of local, good bond counsel that, I think, would... Chairman Dawkins: You know, I agree with you, but... Mr. Bailey: Holland and Knight is local. Chairman Dawkins: I agree with you. I've been sitting here... Board Member Plummer: Holland and Knight is local. The man that's doing the work is not. Chairman Dawkins: You know, I agree with you, J.L. Board Member Plummer: It's like making love by long distance. Chairman Dawkins: I agree with you, J.L., but just like we have that, I've been saying we have local bond counsel, we have local lawyers, we have local everything, CPAs, and you still end up _. _ _..._ ..... without of town CPAs.. OK. Board Member Plummer: All right. Now, my final question on that matter is, is this for the Overtown District by itself? Chairman Dawkins: Yes, sir. And we will approve it... Board Member Plummer: Now, are we going to go and have it on the Omni District? Chairman Dawkins: Yes. Board Member Plummer: Now, is that one going out to bidding? Chairman Dawkins: No. Mr. Bailey: I'd like to make a comment, please, if it's all right. Chairman Dawkins: Go ahead. Mr. Bailey: Holland and Knight, their services we would like to have for the CRA, period. To us, there's nobody else in this state that can provide us with the kinds of service on Tax Increment Districts that they can. They practically helped write the statutes. We have always had a contract with them, and it was a contract in force at the time we changed over, so this is just a matter of transferring it over to the CRA. Omni, which they have been involved in ever since we set it up, is also under the same auspices. When we did Omni, and we had Overtown/Park West, when it was acted on as part of the Administration, Holland and Knight served both CRAs. They provided... And this price includes Omni and Overtown/Park West. However, the only activity that we have at the moment is Overtown/Park West. We will not have any activity for Omni for maybe a year or two from now. Board Member Plummer: Mr. Bailey... 26 July 31, 1995 a Mr. Bailey: So this is something we've always had. It's nothing new. Board Member Plummer: Mr. Bailey, just for the record, sir, I think Holland and K-iight - I've said it before and I'll say it again - is one of the finest firms in the State of Florida. I question an individual who's not local. I question the process of not having bids. We here cannot do things without bids. My understanding is this bid - excuse me - is Holland and Knight possibly going to exceed fifty thousand dollars ($50,000) a year? My understanding was that the CRA could not function any differently than the City of Miami functions. Mr. Bailey: That's not true, sir. Board Member Plummer: That's not? Mr. Bailey: No, no, that is not true. Board Member Plummer: Then I'm disappointed. Mr. Bailey: Your ordinance... Board Member Plummer: No, excuse me. I want to go on the record that I'm disappointed. It was my understanding that we would go through the same processes of bidding, we would go through the same process of RFPs. Then, do we have, for the CRA, do we have anywhere what I would commonly refer to as bylaws of how they will operate? Mr. Bailey: Yes. You passed it in the ordinance, very explicit in detail. Board Member Plummer: In other words, you can go out for any kind of professional contract without bidding that you want to. Mr. Bailey: No, we didn't say that. Board Member Plummer: Well, then say... Mr. Bailey: The board determines... In fact, this first meeting, and it's good we've having the discussion... Board Member Plummer: The board can go out for any professional contract they want without bidding. Mr. Bailey: We can set up procedures that this board deems necessary to get the job done, and it does not have to comply with the City Charter, that is correct. That was the purpose of having the CRA. And this meeting... And I submit to you, if you read Section 6 of the ordinance... Board Member Plummer: All right. Then my final question here... Mr. Gort, can I see that budget you let me look at? Chairman Dawkins: Member Plummer. Board Member Plummer: Yes, sir. Chairman Dawkins: No one had the budget in their hands, and I took the prerogative as Chair to reschedule the budget for the next hearing so that anybody would have... the would have time to review it, and then come back with it. 27 July 31, 1995 t. r Board Member Plummer: All right. The question I had, Mr. Dawkins, which I want discussion on at the next meeting is that it shows the administrative cost, which I assume is salaries, of a hundred and thirty-nine thousand four -thirty ($139,430), and yet, on this document I have here for a quarter only, for the fourth quarter, it's sixty-eight thousand ($68,000). Four times that is a lot more than the hundred and thirty-nine thousand ($139,000). Chairman Dawkins: OK. Board Member Plummer: Well, excuse me. This here, as I see it, is a hundred and thirty-nine thousand four hundred and thirty dollars ($139,430) administrative and operating expenses. OK? To me, that's salaries, I assume. Mr. Bailey: That's just from the trust fund. Chairman Dawkins: That's, Commissioner - I mean Board Member Plummer, that's why I asked that it be deferred until the next meeting, because I had not... I mean... Board Member Plummer: I'm sorry, sir, I didn't know. I was late. Chairman Dawkins: No, no, no. No, it's good for you to let them know the question areas so that they can be prepared. I don't have any problem with that, Mr. Board Member. But the budget will be discussed at the next CRA meeting. Board Member Plummer: OK. Because there's... If we could have it in advance, Mr. Bailey, because I thought we bought a building, didn't we? Chairman Dawkins: No, we didn't buy anything yet. Board Member Plummer: We haven't? Chairman Dawkins: No. We don't have any money. Board Member Plummer: Are we going to? Chairman Dawkins: The money, we don't have the money. Board Member Plummer: OK. Because then I see the rent here, and I wondered why we're paying rent, when we bought a building. Chairman Dawkins: We don't have a building yet. Board Member Plummer: OK. I'm sorry. I thought we were into the budget. My agenda showed it. I did not know it had been deferred until the next meeting. Chairman Dawkins: OK. There was a motion to adjourn the Overtown CRA meeting. Call the roll. NOTE FOR THE RECORD: At this point, the Clerk called the roll on the motion to adjourn the meeting of the Overtown/CRA Board. Said motion having passed, the meeting of the Overtown/CRA Board was adjourned at 10:09 a.m. F-1:3 July 31, 1995 rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrwwrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrwrrrwrrwrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrwrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr 8. APPROVE OMNI/CRA INTERLOCALAGREEMENT -- SCHEDULE NEXT OMNI/CRA MEETING FOR SEPTEMBER 18 -- THIRD MONDAY OF EACH MONTH AT 7 P.M. SET DATE FOR FUTURE MEETINGS -- ALTERNATING THE TWO DISTRICTS. Chairman Dawkins: There is a motion to enter into the Omni/CRA meeting at this time to hear from Mr. Joseph. Board Member Gort: Move it. Vice Chairman Clark: Second. Chairman Dawkins: Call the roll. NOTE FOR THE RECORD: At this point, the Clerk called the roll on the motion to commence the Omni/CRA Board meeting. Said motion having passed, the meeting of the Omni/CRA Board commenced at 10:09 a.m. Chairman Dawkins: Yes, sir, go ahead, Mr. Gort. Board Member Gort: One of the things I'd like to state is my understanding we have a board, and the reason we have this is to expedite some of... Like one of the biggest problems that I've had within the City is every time we go out for a competitive bid, we have to wait 90 days for people to return them, and by the time the people have looked at it, they make the selection, it goes through the process of the different departments, and the Law Department takes anywhere from six months to a year to do anything that you do. My understanding is, we will be operating where we will have bids, we'll select the best bid, and we can expedite the process. Chairman Dawkins: That was the understanding. Board Member Plummer: Well, just... Mr. Gort, you know, just for the record, you know, if you don't go out to bidding, people start casting fingers, and they say if you don't go to bidding, how do you know whether you got the best price or you didn't? I have always stood strong for the integrity of a bidding procedure. Now, if we're not operating, I think that we need to establish in the CRA as a group as to procedures and outlines, and how they shall operate. At this particular point, I need to go back to the ordinance. It was somewhat my understanding, but possibly my misunderstanding that we were going to be operating somewhat like the City, as it required bidding, as it required professionals. In other words, everybody had the opportunity to go out. Mr. Herb Bailey (Executive Director): Commissioner, may I just say one thing? Before you came in, we did go through item 6, and the board did adopt a method of... Chairman Dawkins: He's out of order, Mr. Bailey. We've got to get... We're back on this, see? We've closed that meeting, and we're on to the Omni now. OK? 29 July 31, 1995 Board Member Plummer: Excuse me, Commissioner. Chairman Dawkins: Thank you, sir, thank you. Go ahead. Board Member Plummer: Chairman. Chairman Dawkins: Yes, sir. Board Member Plummer: My comments were to CRA in general, whether it applied to Overtown or to Omni. Chairman Dawkins: Well, right now, we're in Overtown/Omni. Vice Chairman Clark: No, CRA/Omni. Chairman Dawkins: I mean CRA/Omni. Vice Chairman Clark: Don't mix him up. Mr. Fred Joseph: Good morning. My name is Fred Joseph. I'm the president of the Grand Condominium Association. I would like to, number one, invite you back to Doubletree Grand for the Omni area meeting, which I understand you are hoping to set up. When you use the _ ...phrase, "neutral territory," I think we're about as neutral as we could be. We're residents, we're also shop owners, and this is a complex with hotel and all, and all our other immediate residents, I don't think they would have an objection of it. If they do, we'll address it. One item I'd like to address is, I'm a little bit confused, and my constituents have asked me to come and try to get an explanation. We believe that the Omni Tax Increment District has been contributing through either this special fund or into some magical pool since 1987, '86. Mr. Bailey, am I correct? Mr. Herb Bailey (Executive Director): That's correct. Mr. Joseph: All right. What we're a little bit concerned with is where the money went. Being as, I believe, under State statute, it's supposed to go into a special trust fund. And number two, how much is there today, or how much has been taken out and used for some greater wisdom than ours? Can anybody give me a general idea? Mr. Bailey: Mr. Joseph, all of the contributions deeded to the trust fund since the first year the contributions should have been made have been sent back to the taxing authorities, meaning the County and the City. The statute says that at the end of the 12-month period of time, if there is no indebtedness for which the trust fund is obligated to, the taxing authorities may request those funds back. We had some problems early on because the interlocal agreement had not been signed. And it was decided that because the interlocal agreement was not signed, the County was really managing the trust fund, not the City, because they had not passed that obligation on to us. So it was decided that because the process had not been completed and we were not permitted to enter into any obligations that would put the fund into any indebtedness that the money would go back to the taxing authorities until the matter had been cleared. As of the last meeting, that matter has been cleared up, and the one point one million dollars ($1.1 million) that is due to the fund this year will stay into the fund and be used for the Omni area. Mr. Joseph: I appreciate that explanation, but what about the other funded years? I mean... Mr. Bailey: Those other funded years, that money went back to the taxing authorities. It is not longer available. 30 July 31, 1995 Mr. Joseph: When you use the terminology, which is a little bit difficult for my constituents, because they're a little bit simpler, we have a little bit of a problem understanding. Let's just hypothetically say you have a dollar, and you gave your wife a dollar, and you say, go buy groceries. And she gives it back to you and says, the grocery store was closed. Then she says, put that back in the cookie jar, and you do. And then, you go back to the cookie jar, and you're telling us that dollar is not in the cookie jar. Mr. Bailey: It was used for general operating purposes of the City and the County. It is no longer available. Mr. Joseph: But... Mr. Bailey: We had no obligation on that money. There was no indebtedness against it. Mr. Joseph: OK. But as we understood, as, again, the simple constituents, where - why would we agree for you - not you personally, obviously - but the City or the County to tax us, to be used for something in our special district, to go into the cookie jar, but never to be used for that special district? I mean, the law is very - quite clear about it. I mean, we saw it, we voted on it, and we were assured that was the only way it would work, because we're already paying a bulk of tax for the general use and well being of other areas of the County and the City that we're not getting any benefit from. Why would we give more to the City and the County? OK? I have board members... Board Member Plummer: Maybe for both of our edification, it is my understanding this is taxes that only apply from the date of inception of any new improvements or additional to the tax base. Mr. Joseph: Yes. j Board Member Plummer: That is, in fact, comes to the CRA. Mr. Joseph: Yes. Board Member Plummer: Now, if the money was... If there was no CRA, you would have paid j those taxes anyhow. You have improvements to that locale. You have things now the assessor says there's more dollars, and those are more dollars that either go to the City to operate or go to the CRA. Where there was no CRA in operation... You're going to pay the tax either way. Mr. Joseph: No, we... No, ours was an extra. Board Member Plummer: No, no. I' Mr. Bailey: That's not an extra tax, sir. Board Member Plummer: It was not. That's the point. Mr. Bailey: It was your normal taxes being appropriated for a specific purpose. Board Member Plummer: You did not... Mr. Joseph: Specific purpose. Mr. Bailey: Yeah. Board Member Plummer: No, no, no. The improvements that you made - OK? - you would have been taxed for either way. The only question is, did the money go to the City to operate, or 31 July 31, 1995 04 did it go to a CRA for improvement in the area? You voted on... The interlocal was never made a marriage and in spite of that, the money went back to. My question, Mr. Bailey, is this, because I don't understand. That money is only the City's portion, or is it the City, the County and the School Board's portion? Mr. Bailey: No. This is the County and the City's portion, and it's only general operating. We don't get taxes from other authorities. Board Member Plummer: OK. So it's the two. Mr. Bailey: Yeah. Board Member Plummer: You understand that, Mr. Joseph? Mr. Joseph: Well, I'm still a little bit at a loss, though. If you didn't use the... Board Member Plummer: They got you either way, sir. Mr. Joseph: Yeah, right, they got us either way, but they haven't used them. Board Member Gort: I don't think this is like the Downtown Development Authority. Vice Chairman Clark: If it came back to the City, Freddy, it's been used, I'll tell you that. Mr. Joseph: Right. Board Member Gort: The Downtown Development Authority is funded by an additional tax paid by the people in the district. They pay an additional tax. You do not pay an additional tax. If you didn't have the CRA, you'd still pay the same amount of tax. Mr. Joseph: Right. Board Member Gort: The difference is, the City, by creating the CRA says any... There's a tax base. Anything above that will go to the CRA. Mr. Joseph: OK. But when... Because the CRA was never formulated... Mr. Bailey: We never completed the process for the interlocal agreement that would have transferred the management of the trust fund to the City. The trust fund stayed with the County. Mr. Joseph: OK. So now, we have done that or are doing it now. You're in the process. Mr. Bailey: Well, we haven't done that. We have this interlocal agreement, which was passed at the other meeting and we'll probably bring back to this meeting, to send to the County that will permit the City to manage the Omni Tax Increment Trust Fund, and be responsible for the other development activities in the district. If the County approves this, then the trust fund responsibility becomes a responsibility of this CRA, not the County. Mr. Joseph: OK. Mr. Bailey: And then at that point, we can make decisions on how those funds are to be used. Mr. Joseph: And you're going to establish the next board meeting. 32 July 31, 1995 W Vice Chairman Clark: All right. Chairman Dawkins: Yes, sir. Mr. Bailey: At the next board meeting. In fact, I would like, Mr. Chairman, at this meeting, being that you have already voted on this interlocal agreement to be sent to the County, just to approve it at the Omni portion of this meeting so we can get it over to the County as fast as possible. Chairman Dawkins: So move. Board Member Gort: Second. Chairman Dawkins: OK. Now call the roll. The following motion was introduced by Chairman Dawkins, who moved its adoption: OMNI/CRA M 95-6 A MOTION APPROVING THE OMNI/CRA INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT; FURTHER DIRECTING THE ADMINISTRATION TO TRANSMIT SAME TO METROPOLITAN DADE COUNTY FOR ITS REVIEW AND APPROVAL. Upon being seconded by Board Member Gort, the motion was passed and adopted by the following vote: AYES: Board Member Wifredo Gort Board Member Victor De Yurre Board Member J.L. Plummer, Jr. Vice Chairman Stephen P. Clark Chairman Miller J. Dawkins NAYS: None. ABSENT: None. Chairman Dawkins: OK. Now, the attorney says we have to meet separately for the Omni and separately for Overtown; is that correct? Ms. Linda Kearson (Assistant City Attorney): That's correct, sir. Chairman Dawkins: Now, so when is the... So that means we have to have two meetings, or could you have one meeting jointly, or what now? Ms. Kearson: Well, you can have both meetings on the same day, but you just have to make a distinction between acting as the Omni CRA and the Overtown/Park West CRA. Chairman Dawkins: So therefore... Ms. Kearson: Or you can have two separate meeting days. It's up to you. Chairman Dawkins: All right. Now, so if we had it the same day, then we could have one meeting one month in the Omni, and the next month in Overtown, but have the two meetings at that time; is that agreeable? 33 July 31, 1995 Ms. Kearson: Yes, sir, you could do that. Chairman Dawkins: OK. Now, board members, look at the September date up there, and let's get this set on a date for... Vice Chairman Clark: When is Labor Day? Board Member Plummer: Labor Day is the 4th. Vice Chairman Clark: Not before Labor Day. I Chairman Dawkins: No, after, after. No, after. Board Member Plummer: Well, I think there's another decision, Mr. Chairman. Chairman Dawkins: Yes, sir, Mr. Plummer. Board Member Plummer: And I personally have a problem with these morning meetings, and for the participation of the people, I would much prefer to see evening meetings. Chairman Dawkins: OK, good. Board Member Plummer: Now, that's my personal, because it's just... This is killing me, especially on a Monday morning when my... Chairman Dawkins: I can understand. I just happen to be retired so it doesn't worry me, but I agree with you. Board Member Plummer: Yeah, well, my customers don't make appointments, and then my office manager's wife is having a baby this morning. My daughter doesn't feel well, and the funeral home is over... Chairman Dawkins: OK. All right. Now first, then, let's agree on the date and the time. Board Member Plummer: OK. Mr. Joseph: Mr. Chairperson. Chairman Dawkins: Yes, sir. Mr. Joseph: Again, as you indicated, I had polled a lot of our residents to see when... You indicated you wanted more participation, and these fine people that have come, I'm real happy. They have indicated evening would be much better for them. Board Member Plummer: Oh, of course. Mr. Joseph: And they would be glad to come and help support your cause. Vice Chairman Clark: What time? Six, J.L.? Chairman Dawkins: Seven? Board Member Gort: Seven. 34 July 31, 1995 Board Member Plummer: It's fine with me, either one. Vice Chairman Clark: Seven o'clock. Board Member Plummer: The only question I have is, are we going to have any budget hearings other than the Commission dates? Do you know? Has anybody checked that out? Normally, we set up other meetings of budget. Are we going to do that this year? Chairman Dawkins: I don't see how you're going to have a budget hearing when... What did Charlie say about the budget being in your hands prior to a meeting? Board Member Plummer: No, no, the budget for the City Commission I'm talking about. Chairman Dawkins: That's what I'm talking about. Vice Chairman Clark: It will be in September sometime. Board Member Plummer: Well, that's supposed to... I think it's today or tomorrow we're going to get the budget book. OK? No, my point is, has anybody checked with the Administration of the City to see whether or not they are going to put aside any dates for budget hearings? Chairman Dawkins: See, what he's saying in a long way, which he usually does, is let's don't schedule the CRA meeting on the day that the Manager may schedule the budget hearing. That's all he's saying. Board Member Plummer: That's all, yeah. Chairman Dawkins: That's all. Yes, sir. Board Member Gort: Let me ask you a question. Board Member Plummer: I'm glad you defined that. Board Member Gort: I understand we all want to work at it. Why don't you make it one fixed day. We have meetings on the 14th and the 21st. Why don't we have it the third Tuesday or Monday? Chairman Dawkins: The 19th. Board Member Gort: But let's have a fixed day so we will know more or less and... Vice Chairman Clark: When is our Commission meeting? Board Member Gort: Our Commission meetings are the second and the last Thursday of the month. Board Member Plummer: Fourteenth and the 28th. Board Member Gort: Second and the last. So we could have it the third. Board Member Plummer: What are you talking about, the 9th? Board Member Gort: Either the third or the first. 35 July 31, 1995 IR Chairman Dawkins: Third what? Board Member Gort: Whatever day is... Chairman Dawkins: OK. Well, hey... Board Member Plummer: How about the 18th? Board Member Gort: That's fine with me. Board Member Plummer: That's a Monday night. Chairman Dawkins: That's fine with me. Vice Chairman Clark: Perfect. Chairman Dawkins: Perfect with the Mayor. Board Member Plummer: OK. Seven p.m.? Board Member De Yurre: At the Omni? Board Member Plummer: I don't care. Mr. Joseph: At the Doubletree. Board Member De Yurre: No, no, because if not, you know, if we're going to have evening meetings, we need to check with the Arena if you want to use it. Chairman Dawkins: Well we'll do this one at the Omni, and then we'll find the dates available for the November meeting - October meeting. Mr. Joseph: In fact, the Doubletree Grand... Vice Chairman Clark: McKnight's home. That's good. Right, Irby? Board Member De Yurre: And if I may suggest something. If we're going to have them around that date, Miller, if you can find out from the Arena an available date around that period for October so that when we meet again in September, we'll- know what dates are available. Chairman Dawkins: All right. We'll do that. Mr. Joseph: I believe. Ms. Kearson: So we're saying the third Monday in every month, we're going to have a CRA meeting. Board Member Gort: Right. Ms. Kearson: That's what Mr. Gort was saying. The third Monday in every month. Board Member Gort: Right. 36 July 31, 1995 Z] Chairman Dawkins: Yes. Ms. Kearson: OK. W Board Member De Yurre: Again, subject to the availability of the Arena whenever you're going to go there. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9. DISCUSS PROPOSED RELOCATION OF POLICE MINI -STATION TO DOWNTOWN AREA. Mr. Joseph: Commissioner Dawkins - Chair Dawkins, you asked about a question that I'd like to address, the dope dealers, prostitutes and everything else in the area that you've asked. I happened to bring with me a chart, and I'll be happy to share it with you. I did not have the opportunity to color five or seven of them. But I'd like to read something to you. I received information that the NET (Neighborhood Enhancement Team) or the Police Department wants to move a couple of offices, and the oddity of it is that they want to move them - one, they would like to move out of the Omni area into a downtown location. And the oddity of that is that if they'll look at the crimes from where they went to move it to where they want to move it, they _ want to move it from one of the highest crime areas - total reported crime in the Omni area is 1326 - into one that's only 1,006. So what's the oddity that we couldn't understand is why they would want to move something that has 12 to - I'm sorry - 34 burglaries into one that has 87 burglaries. It seems to me like somebody is looking to move them backwards. And I'm glad Commissioner Dawkins brought this up, because we have dope dealers, prostitutes, and everything else in areas that we live in. You got to understand, we, the people in the Omni and in the Overtown area, we live there, and they're asking to move this Police Department headquarters into an area where when - in the evening hours, they close. Vice Chairman Clark: Where is it located now? Mr. Joseph: Right now, I believe it's on the boulevard somewhere or near the Omni. They want to move it downtown on Flagler, which we all know downtown on Flagler is closing up at night. Board Member Plummer: No, that's 61st Street. No, that's not Omni. Chairman Dawkins: OK. We'll address it and come up... Mr. Joseph: And you wanted, you know... Chairman Dawkins: We'll address it and come up with something. Board Member Plummer: You know, I don't think there's an Omni NET office that I'm aware of. There's one way up on the boulevard, and the one... Board Member Gort: It's not being used. Board Member Plummer: The one downtown is not being used? Board Member Gort: No, the one up in Biscayne. Chairman Dawkins: It's one in Edge... Isn't there one in Edgewater? 37 July 31, 1995 Board Member Gort: Yeah. Chairman Dawkins: We have one in Edgewater. Board Member Plummer: Well, that's a mini station. Ms. Linda Kearson (Assistant City Attorney): No, that's a NET office. Chairman Dawkins: Yeah, that's close to them. It's close to him. Board Member Plummer: Yeah. Mr. Joseph: And see, what I don't understand, they want to put one down on Flagler, where everything is closed up at night. Board Member Plummer: Fred, I would suggest that you talk with the Police Chief. Board Member Gort: Mr. Chairman. Chairman Dawkins: Yes, sir. 1 _.__.—._._._....Board.Member. Plummer: That's what... Board Member Gort: One of the problems that we've had with the restruction of putting the police offices at the NET level, a lot of people are not really knowing what's going on. There's a lot of rumors going on. My suggestion is we set up a meeting with Lieutenant Payne, and I'm sure he can put you up to date on everything, and he will be consulting with the Chief. The Chief had a meeting with all the lieutenants and explained what the mission is. My understanding is each lieutenant is in charge 24 hours a day of that area, and he's going to determine how he's going to deploy his forces, according to the needs. Chairman Dawkins: OK. Mr. Joseph: OK. Well, that was just on the item Chairperson Dawkins brought up, because we have - we got everything running all over the street. He's got shopping centers - I mean they're in a flea market doing better business than the retailers. Chairman Dawkins: That's right. OK. We'll work on it. We'll address it. Mr. Joseph: Thank you. July 31, 1995 10. SEEK A SMALL INDEPENDENT AUDITING FIRM TO PERFORM AN AUDIT OF CRA. Chairman Dawkins: Before I adjourn, I would like permission to bring back three local - I hope - auditors to do an independent audit, because I think that in order to lend credibility to what we are doing, we must know where we are so that when we leave, we know what we left. OK? So I would like permission from you to get three. And it will not, I'm going to tell you, it will not be the big boys. It's going to be somebody small to come in and do an audit for the CRA. Board Member Plummer: Three? Three different auditors? Chairman Dawkins: No - yes. And since you want to competitively bid... I mean, let me rephrase that. Since we must competitively bid it, we'll choose one. Board Member Plummer: Oh, that's fine. That's great. Chairman Dawkins.: OK? Board Member Plummer: That's fine. Vice Chairman Clark: Second. Cast a unanimous ballot. Chairman Dawkins: Unanimous ballot. The following motion was introduced by Chairman Dawkins, who moved its adoption: OMNI/CRA M 95-7 A MOTION AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE OMNI/CRA TO REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS FROM THE INDEPENDENT AUDITORS TO PERFORM AN AUDIT OF THE CRA; FURTHER STIPULATING THAT SAID AUDITORS BE SELECTED FROM SMALL FIRMS. Upon being seconded by Vice Chairman Clark, the motion was passed and adopted by the following vote: AYES: Board Member Wifredo Gort Board Member J.L. Plummer, Jr. Vice Chairman Stephen P. Clark Chairman Miller J. Dawkins NAYS: ABSENT: Chairman Dawkins: Move to adjourn. None. Board Member Victor De Yurre 39 July 31, 1995 r "` Board Member Plummer: Always in order. THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS TO COME BEFORE THE CRA BOARD, THE MEETING WAS ADJOURNED AT 10:29 A.M. Miller J. Dawkins Chairman ATTEST: Walter Foeman CITY CLERK Maria Josephine Argudin ASSISTANT CITY CLERK (SEAL) 40 July 31, 1995